The Hustler Files: Recent Episodes
Lisa Reilly; Creator, Producer and Podcaster
The Hustler Files is stories set around ex-offenders and their second chances as they strive to pursue entrepreneurship, be productive citizens and prove that failure isn't final.
The truth surfaced years before justice finally prevailed, but for Dusty Turner, freedom wasn't the end of the story. After spending 31 years in prison for a crime he maintains he did not commit, Dusty has chosen a path unlike many wrongly convicted people. Rather than quietly rebuilding his life, he's stepped into the public eye through documentaries, podcasts, interviews, and a massive, daily, social media campaign, run by his team of advocates and posted under the @freedustyturner handle. In Dusty's own words, sunlight is the greatest disinfectant, and that mantra helps him fight for his own exoneration, every single day. In this candid conversation, Dusty reflects on surviving decades behind bars, the emotional toll of knowing he was innocent, now living each day under electronic monitoring, and why he believes sharing his story publicly is part of his life's purpose. He also discusses his new mission to advocate for justice-involved veterans and help others who may have been wrongfully convicted. Dusty's story isn't just about freedom. It's about perseverance, purpose, and the belief that the truth deserves to be heard, even when justice takes decades to catch up.
America's prisons were built for punishment, not to become nursing homes. Across the United States, thousands of incarcerated men and women are growing old behind bars, facing chronic illness, declining health, and the possibility that prison will also become the place where they die. This week we speak with Emmy Award-winning journalist and attorney Cherri Gregg and investigative journalist Yvonne Latty, co-creators of the powerful NEW podcast series Dying on the Inside: Women Lifers at Muncy Prison. Together they discuss what they discovered inside Pennsylvania's oldest women's prison, the women serving life sentences, the emotional toll of reporting these stories, and the larger questions surrounding redemption, aging, justice, and compassion. They also explore Pennsylvania Senate Bill 1400 and why the conversation about elderly incarcerated people is becoming one of the most urgent issues facing corrections today. Sometimes the hardest stories to tell are the ones that ask us to reconsider what justice looks like decades after a sentence begins.
You don't have to be incarcerated for this conversation to matter. We all have had a yesterday experience that shaped us, wounds that followed us, and patterns we sometimes don't even realize we're repeating. This week we conclude our first-ever trilogy with a most meaningful yet simple lesson. Over the past few episodes, we introduced you to Oregon's Transformative Justice Community, their innovative programs at Coffee Creek Correctional Facility, and the volunteer-run CREW Safe Rides program that helps women return home safely after release from prison. Now we turn to what may be the foundation for lasting change. Educator and Transformative Justice Community co-founder Taryn VanderPyl, along with healing curriculum developer Tressa Jumps share a new trauma-informed healing curriculum created specifically for incarcerated women. Together, they explore why lasting transformation begins long before release, how unresolved childhood trauma often shapes adult choices, the difference between healing and simply serving a sentence and why understanding what happened to someone can be just as important as understanding what they did. Because it just may be that healing is one of the most powerful forms of rehabilitation.
In this episode we return to Oregon to continue the story of CREW (Connecting Resources to Empower Women) and meet Client Services Specialist Kyle Black. Once incarcerated herself for almost three decades at Coffee Creek Correctional, Kyle now spends her days driving newly released women, from the same prison, to probation appointments, safe housing, treatment programs, and the first chapter of a new life. But these aren't simply rides, they are conversations filled with fear, hope, shame, courage, grief, and possibility. Kyle speaks candidly about the tragic events that led to her incarceration, the decades she spent in prison, rebuilding a relationship with her daughter, and why every woman deserves to leave prison knowing someone believes in her future. Because sometimes the shortest journey becomes the one that changes everything.
In the annals of American history there is one speech delivered in 1852, by a former slave, that stood at the precipice of what today, we call social justice. This week on The Hustler Files Dr. LaToya Bosworth of Mass Humanities explores the enduring legacy of Frederick Douglass and the Massachusetts statewide initiative, Reading Frederick Douglass Together. His speech "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July" still resonates around the world, and each year in Massachusetts, from public parks to correctional facilities, communities gather to read Douglass's powerful words aloud, discovering that his message about freedom, justice, humanity, and hope, the building blocks of social justice, remains as relevant today as ever. In honor of America's 250th Anniversary, Dr. Bosworth discuss storytelling, historical memory, invisible barriers, community healing, and why understanding our shared past may be one of the most important ways to shape our future. Because some stories aren't just history, they're still changing lives.
What happens when one mistake follows you for the rest of your life? Dr. Sheena Meade, CEO of the Clean Slate Initiative, calls it 'invisible cages' and for her it was 2004 and an $87 bounced check that led to her arrest. Despite making restitution, that arrest still appears on her record, today, and has created a lifelong lesson about second chances, collateral consequences, and turning her pain into purpose. These barriers are not lost on Sheena as there are millions of Americans still in invisible cages, even long after they've paid their debt to society. It was Sheena's personal journey that led her to becoming one of the nation's leading voices for automatic record clearance, criminal justice reform, the importance of owning your narrative, and how it is possible to emerge from life's most difficult moments. This is a conversation about resilience, redemption, freedom, and what it truly means to live your legacy out loud.
At Coffee Creek Correctional Facility in Oregon, there's a simple belief: no woman should walk alone. This week we're speaking with prison scholar, educator, researcher, advocate and Safe Ride creator, Dr. Taryn VanderPyl. For more than a decade, Taryn has worked alongside incarcerated and formerly incarcerated individuals, listening to their experiences and helping amplify voices too often left out of conversations about justice and rehabilitation. The discussion explores the surprising role of prison Lifers Clubs, the power of peer accountability, and the creation of the Transformative Justice Community (TJC). Taryn shares how a group of incarcerated women helped design CREW, an innovative reentry initiative focused on trauma recovery, safe transportation, housing support, and protecting vulnerable women from exploitation and trafficking upon release. The conversation also examines post-incarceration syndrome, the emotional realities of reentry, the importance of community, and why those with lived experience are often best equipped to guide others through the journey home. This episode is a powerful look at healing, accountability, second chances, and the women working to ensure that no one leaves prison alone.
"Every success that I have isn't just for me. It's disproving stereotypes." When Chandler Dugal entered the correctional system right after graduating college, few could have predicted what the next three years would look like. During his incarceration, Chandler earned a graduate certificate in Homeland Security Studies, completed a Master's in Public Administration through Penn State and became the first person at Maine Correctional Center to begin remote employment with a Manhattan law firm. And if that wasn't setting the bar, both literal and figurative higher, he competed in debates, via the National Prison Debate League, against some of the nation's top universities, and began building the foundation for what will soon be a legal career. In this episode Chandler shares his journey through incarceration, education, technology, family support, and personal accountability, and what can happen when correctional systems truly invest in preparing people for life beyond prison. Today, Chandler is a senior paralegal, Director of Operations for the National Prison Debate League, author of a growing Substack chronicling his incarceration experience, and an incoming law student at Northeastern University School of Law.
For more than three plus seasons, every episode of The Hustler Files has ended with the same question: "At this moment in your life, what do you believe is your life assignment?" The answers have been inspiring, surprising, deeply personal, and often transformative. In this special compilation episode, we revisit some memorable responses from guests across The Hustler Files universe, so many individuals whose journeys have been shaped by incarceration, redemption, second chances, public service, advocacy, leadership, faith, resilience, and personal growth. It is in these reflections that we are reminded that purpose is rarely a destination. Purpose evolves as we learn, heal, serve, and discover new ways to impact the lives of others. Whether you're searching for direction, navigating change, or simply curious about the paths that shape us, every Hustler Files episode offers a glimpse into the wisdom, humanity, and hope that have become our shows hallmark. Because sometimes the most important question isn't what you've done, it's what you're here to do next.
What happens when the justice system gets it wrong? For Sean Ellis of Boston, he served 22 years for the murder of a Boston police detective, a crime he didn't commit. After two hung juries and a third conviction, Sean faced the reality of dying behind bars while fighting to uncover evidence that had been withheld for decades. Sean shares the devastating impact of wrongful conviction, the challenges of rebuilding a life after exoneration, and the emotional toll of losing years to a system that failed him. He also discusses his work, now, as Director of the Exoneree Network at the New England Innocence Project, supporting individuals and families navigating the trauma of wrongful incarceration and reentry. This conversation explores justice, resilience, accountability, healing, and what it takes to ensure that the truth is never buried forever.
What happens when decades spent behind prison walls helping others tell their stories inspires a powerful debut novel. In this episode of The Hustler Files, we sit down with longtime prison activist, educator, and author Jean Trounstine to discuss Sounds Like Trouble to Me, a gripping story shaped by the emotional realities of incarceration, abuse, survival, justice, and hope. Jean shares how years of teaching incarcerated women, directing theater programs behind bars and witnessing lives transformed inside the justice system ultimately led her to write her first novel! This conversation explores the real-life experiences that inspired her characters, the emotional complexities of trauma and redemption, and the powerful stories too often hidden from public view. The discussion also takes a deeper look at women's incarceration, abuse behind prison walls, and the courage of those fighting for justice and change. It's a conversation about storytelling, humanity, and the belief that truth whether through fiction or lived experience can challenge what we think we know.
Behind every prison sentence is a family story. In this deeply personal Mother's Day episode of The Hustler Files, you'll meet Daisy Diaz, a justice-impacted woman and mother who shares how it felt to be the ugly duckling of her family and live on the streets beginning at the age of 12. From navigating her addictions, to her rollercoaster of incarceration, and then separation from her own children, Daisy shares a raw and honest account of a life shaped by trauma yet transformed by resilience. She opens up about the emotional toll of "mother-child" visits in prison, and the reality that while one person serves the sentence, families serve time too. Now 11 years clean, Daisy reflects on rebuilding her life, repairing relationships, and stepping into her purpose: helping other women find their way forward by planting seeds for them to follow. This episode is a powerful reminder that second chances don't just change one life, they can change generations.
Opportunity, advocacy, and second chances is always a priority conversation when 1 in 3 Americans are justice-impacted. In this episode we highlight, for an inaugural conversation, Rahsaan Hall, President & CEO of the Urban League of Eastern Massachusetts. This enlightening conversation explores the Urban League's mission, its national impact with 93 cities under the Urban League umbrella, and its frontline leadership in championing the Clean Slate Coalition. While there is still no Clean Slate law, in place, in Massachusetts, Rahsaan breaks down the realities of criminal records in Massachusetts where access to employment, housing, and opportunity is often shaped by a past that may no longer reflect who someone is today. Rahsaan speaks to the push for Clean Slate legislation, the effort to automate record sealing, and why removing these barriers is critical not just for individuals, but for families, communities, and the broader economy. As we learn from each episode, behind every record is a story and every story has the power to change how we see each other.
April is Second Chance Month, and this episode brings two powerful stories that show what can happen when opportunity meets determination. First, we welcome back Brandon Downey, who first joined us in Episode 19 while rebuilding his life after incarceration. Now, several years later, Brandon returns to share how recovery, persistence, and the support of second chance employers helped him transform his future. Today, he is working at the Hampshire County Jail in reentry services, mentoring others, and rebuilding his life as a father. Then, we head to Ohio to meet Lindsey Watzek of JBM Packaging, a company known for its commitment to Fair Chance hiring. Lindsey shares how a felony connected to addiction once left her feeling hopeless, but through the support of a recovery-friendly workplace, she has built a stable, independent life and is now working toward becoming the first female supervisor at her company. Two journeys. Two employers who said yes. And two powerful reminders that when people are given a real opportunity, everything can change.
What does it take to rebuild a life after four incarcerations, across four different decades, and stay the course when the path isn't easy? Today we welcome Tammy Franklin of Prison Fellowship, a woman, mother and wife whose lived experience, at every decade in her life, challenged her with incarceration, until a powerful transformation from God led her to serve others walking the same difficult road. Tammy shares how finding that faith with the only prayer she knew; 'God, please help me' was the final turning point to help her rebuild her life and find her purpose, with mentorship and love from the 'church women with the sparkly eyes'. Now working with Prison Fellowship, Tammy uses her voice to support justice-impacted individuals and families, offering guidance rooted in real-life experience. Her story is one of resilience, redemption, religion; all daily commitments required to stay on her path, one step at a time. This conversation reminds us that second chances are not just given; they are built, step by step, through courage, accountability, hope, and help from above.
In this powerful episode we hear the remarkable story of Paul Cowley, a man whose life journey reflects the true power of hope, faith, and second chances. After experiencing the consequences of poor choices that led him into prison, Paul's life took an unexpected turn when a compassionate military officer offered him a second chance, a unique moment that would ultimately change the direction of his life forever. That act of belief sparked a transformation rooted in faith, discipline, and purpose. Drawing inspiration from Proverbs 13 "Hope deferred makes the heart sick", Paul shares how hope and God became the foundation of his healing and growth. While for many years he dedicated his life to helping others find hope in the midst of hardship, encouraging those who feel lost to believe that change is possible. Today Paul is the Managing Director of Second Chance Partnership, an organization, in partnership with Iceland Foods, helping 'prison leavers' find work and a living wage through the same second chances that once changed his own life. This episode is a powerful reminder that hope can restore what despair once tried to take, and that sometimes one person's belief in you can change everything.
Meet Jesse Crosson, author of The Best Part of Prison, founder of the Second Chancer Foundation, an inspirational voice for second chances, and now a social media influencer. But that wasn't how it all started. At just 18 years old, Jesse's life changed forever after a robbery and shooting led to a 32-year prison sentence. What followed was nearly two decades behind bars, time that could have defined his life in one direction but instead became the foundation for profound personal growth. During his incarceration, Jesse found mentors, discovered the power of reading and writing, earned a college degree, and began reshaping his identity. After serving nearly 19 years, he was granted clemency and released, stepping into a world transformed by technology, opportunity, and responsibility. Today, Jesse uses his lived experience to help others find freedom, not just from incarceration, but from the emotional and mental barriers that hold people back. Through his foundation, public speaking, and widely followed social media platforms, he's found a voice for good, a voice that says, even the hardest obstacles can become opportunities for growth.
Today we meet Pray'Eon, a young emerging leader whose already young life journey reflects the power of second chances and personal transformation. Once involved in the justice system and placed in a juvenile detention center at a young age, Pray'Eon now uses his lived experience to guide others and advocate for positive change. Through resilience, reflection, and mentorship, he has transformed his past into purpose and is now stepping into leadership through his work with the Coalition for Juvenile Justice (CJJ). In this very personalconversation: Pray'Eon shares how his early experiences shaped his worldview, the lessons he learned while navigating the justice system, and his commitment to helping young people avoid the same pitfalls. He speaks openly about unity, responsibility, and the importance of lifting others rather than turning against one another. This episode is a strong and inspirational reminder that leadership CAN grow from adversity, and that the voices of young people with lived experience, like Pray'Eon are essential to shaping stronger, safer communities, everywhere.
Access to justice stops at the prison gates unless you happen to be incarcerated in one of the few states in the U.S. that has prisoner legal services available. For 9 plaintiffs and another 150 incarcerated men at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Massachusetts, legal help from Prisoner Legal Services and Hogan Lovells Law Firm was able to offer legal support, and won a $7 million landmark case, against the correctional center. In this episode of The Hustler Files, Lawyers of the Year, in Massachusetts, David Milton and Kayla Ghantous discuss the critical role of organizations dedicated to advocating for prisoners facing legal challenges, while incarcerated. While civil legal services exist for housing, benefits, and family matters, far fewer resources are available to those behind bars, leaving many without the legal support they desperately need. This conversation shines a light on the growing demand for prisoner legal advocacy, the gaps in access to justice, and why these services are more essential than ever, because justice should never depend on where you are.
As attorney, youth advocate and Executive Director of the Coalition for Juvenile Justice, Melissa Milchman's "superpower" is bringing people and organizations together to improve the lives of children and youth, and strengthen communities across the U.S. Even today her mother says she's been wearing her superhero cape since she was a child. In this episode, Melissa shares how collaboration across various juvenile justice systems, through her organization, regardless of politics or changing landscapes, remains essential to protecting young people and creating safer communities. As someone deeply committed to youth advocacy and justice reform, Melissa believes progress happens when leaders stay focused on a shared mission: ensuring children and youth have the support, opportunity, and the community they deserve.
When a routine evening in Portland, Maine turned into a highly publicized arrest involving Federal Immigration Authorities, it sparked questions far beyond one incident and triggered a Sheriff showdown. In this episode, Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce unpacks the events surrounding the arrest of a correctional officer trainee by ICE during a federal operation known as Operation Catch of the Day. What followed triggered national headlines, protests, and a ripple effect inside the Cumberland County justice system including the removal of all ICE detainees from the county jail, and new scrutiny of hiring practices and cooperation between local and federal law enforcement. Sheriff Joyce shares his firsthand account of the arrest, the complicated legal and jurisdictional issues involved, and why he chose to publicly challenge what he called 'bush league' tactics used in the operation. This conversation explores what happens when the Office of Sheriff, federal law enforcement, and immigration policy collide and test both principle and partnership.
Northwestern Massachusetts District Attorney David Sullivan is always up for a powerful conversation that challenges conventional ideas of justice, and what it truly means to serve a community. From traditional prosecution to innovative restorative justice practices, Sullivan shares how his office is working to balance accountability with opportunity, giving both victims and offenders, a voice in the process. Rooted in a model that dates back threethousand years, restorative justice shifts the focus from punishment to repairing harm, creating space for dialogue, responsibility, and transformation. Through real-life examples and candid insights, this conversation offers a rare look inside the evolving role of a modern District Attorney and the systems working to create lasting change. This episode is a reminder that justice isn't always about punishment. Sometimes, it's about understanding, accountability, and the possibility of a different outcome.
In Part 2 of the conversation with the Seattle Clemency Project, we are joined by Brooke Kaufman, Director of Communications and Author, at the SCP, and client Grady Mitchell. In a deeply personal look at what clemency truly means, not just in policy, but in people's lives, Grady shares his journey of transformation, purpose, and paying forward the hope he was given. It was his hope that helped him face unimaginable personal challenges with unwavering strength, during his 37-year incarceration. This episode goes beyond the legal process, revealing the human impact of second chances in a system where parole does not exist. Through stories of resilience, advocacy, and belief in human potential, this conversation is just another reminder that redemption isn't just possible, it's lived, every day.
In Part 1 of a two-part conversation, we sit down with leaders from an organization working at the intersection of justice, advocacy, and second chances. The Seattle Clemency Project is a lifeline for so many incarcerated individuals who may have been eligible for parole, if the State of Washington had a parole system. Musa Abul-Mateen, Executive Director of SCP, and a formerly incarcerated individual, and Jennifer Smith, Co-Founder and Development Director of SCP explore the shared humanity behind the system, challenging assumptions and the critical work being done to support individuals navigating complex legal and personal journeys. With honesty and insight, this conversation underscores a powerful truth: we are more alike than we are different. It's a reminder that real impact happens when compassion, accountability, and opportunity come together.
From surviving abuse, instability, and homelessness to building a national nonprofit to helpfoster children, this is the powerful journey of Rob Scheer, founder of the organization Comfort Cases. After experiencing firsthand the harsh realities of the foster care system where children often carry their belongings in trash bags, Rob turned his story into a movement focused on restoring dignity, comfort, and a sense of worth to kids in crisis. In this conversation, Rob shares the deeper challenges within foster care, including trauma, invisibility, and the long-term impact on children who age out of the system. Rob also reflects on resilience, personal responsibility, and the moment he chose a different path, one that now impacts hundreds of thousands of lives across the country. With 700 children in the United States entering foster care EVERYDAY, Rob is truly compassion in action, seeing what others overlook, and proving how one person's lived experience can spark meaningful, systemic change.
From a felony to the CEO of a Global foundation, Michelle Cirocco knows firsthand that second chances work, because she lived it. After serving time in prison, Michelle rebuilt her life by taking a job at a call center, inside a local correctional facility. Today, she leads the Televerde Foundation, helping incarcerated and formerly incarcerated women gain workforce credentials, employment, and long-term success. With over 5,000 women served and a recidivism rate that is under 2%, Televerde's model is transforming reentry outcomes and economic impact across states like Arizona and Indiana. In a powerful and heartfelt conversation, Michelle talks about leadership, the stigma of having a felony, workforce development, her 'Cinderellas', her pet peeves, why failure is not the end, and that it's okay to say the F word.
Tore Price was serving time behind the wall, in Michigan, when he learned about the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program being taught by the University of Michigan. According to Tore, there were 1,000 incarcerated individuals who rushed to sign up for the weekly class with students from the University. With only 15 slots available lady luck was definitely on Tores side. When asking him to describe the Inside-Out Program, his words were short and sweet, intellectual espresso. For Tore, this was the launching pad that propelled him to not only continue to educate himself but also be an advocate for other incarcerated individuals. Having served his ten-year sentence, Tore is now a training coach and special program coordinator for the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program. Proof that education is a tool for resistance, dignity, and collective liberation.
While prisons in the United States offer a variety of educational pursuits, it only took a brief conversation between a college educator and an incarcerated individual for the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program to be born. Four decades later, the Inside-Out Prison Exchange Program is still going strong, thanks to Founder, Lori Pompa. Lori's vision to bring her students, from Temple University to interface with incarcerated individuals, in a unique classroom setting, behind the wall, was not only a leap of faith but ahead of its time. In Lori's own words, "It is a class, though not an ordinary one. In this class roles are intermingled; everyone is the teacher, and everyone is the learner." Staying in step with her college classes timeline and curriculum, this powerful education model changed the narrative for all. Once a week for an entire college semester, students around the world arrive at local prisons and sit in Lori's now famous circle of curriculum, compassion, and collaboration. All these years later, this innovative model continues to foster dialogue and understanding between incarcerated individuals and college students while continuing to grow organically. Today more than 1600 college/university professors, along with other educators, and 15 countries around the globe, teach Inside-Out courses.
Dan Sheridan and Ashley Anderson are both PhDs and licensed behavior analysts, but don't let their titles fool you; their work at Auburn University is no desk job. In partnership with the Alabama Department of Youth Services, Dan and Ashley headup a team of undergraduate students, graduate clinicians, and full-time staff who provide support for juvenile offenders within a local secure residential facility. Listen in as they share their insights on the intersection of research, education, and lived experience, and how these elements can create transformative outcomes for young people at critical turning points in their lives. The conversation highlights the importance of behavior analysis in reducing recidivism and addresses the root causes of crime, emphasizing the necessity for community involvement in supporting youth reintegration.
Welcome to Season 4! Wanda Bertram from the Prison Policy Initiative stops by to discuss the latest insights and highlights on current incarceration rates, parole, juvenile justice, and how women incarcerated in the U.S. compare to other states and countries . While the statistics are alarming when reading the 'whole pie' research that the Prison Policy Initiative is known for, the truth of the criminal justice system in America is hard to ignore. Today's conversation on detention centers, youth confinement, and incarcerated women invokes the sad reality that systemic issues continue to contribute to mass incarceration in the U.S. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that highlights the continued need for reform and increased compassion within the criminal justice system.
Leadership was always in the cards for Kristin Kline. Despite being incarcerated, it only took one coach in an Arizona women's prison to encourage Kristin that she had leadership qualities and wasn't a gangster. Finding faith in herself, she launched a workout program for the women in her prison section and took to the prison yard to improve the mental health and healing of her podmates. In this episode, Kristin discusses her transformative journey from incarcerated leadership to entrepreneurial empowerment. Kristin shares her experiences of resilience, the importance of addressing trauma, and her dedication to helping women rewrite their stories through fitness and community support, both behind and beyond the wall, with her fitness organization CONVICTED Comeback. Tune in to discover how one person's comeback can inspire a movement for change and hope.
Anthony Ray Hinton was 29 years old when falsely accused of multiple murders. With no money to hire an attorney and up against a criminal justice system that accused him based on the color of his skin and a false ballistics test, he spent 30 years on death row, only feet away from the execution chamber at Holman State Prison in Alabama. In this emotional episode, Ray shares his harrowing journey through the criminal justice system, the injustices he faced, and the resilience he cultivated during his time in prison. His story is one of hope, forgiveness, and the unwavering support of his Mother and best friend, Lester. Tune in to hear about Ray's fight for freedom, his experiences on death row, and the lessons he learned about love and justice.
This episode explores the transformative journey of Brett Thomas, who at 18 years old was sentenced to an excessive prison term for a crime he personally did not commit. Brett is joined by Beth Henderson, Pro Bono Director at Microsoft, and they share the powerful story of how the Seattle Clemency Project helped Brett connect with Beth and her team to navigate the complexities of the Washington State legal system to achieve his release. Tune in to discover how the impact of compassion, Brett's resilience, and the fight for justice in the face of overwhelming odds became a winning combination.
Radha Natarajan is the Executive Director of the New England Innocence Project, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In this episode, Radha shares her journey into the world of wrongful convictions and the challenges faced by those, behind the wall, fighting for justice. Radha also shares her and her team's hard-fought battle to free Edward Wright, a man who spent 41 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Listen in to learn how the New England Innocence Project takes on innocence cases, the remarkable work to exonerate innocent individuals, stay within the complexities of the criminal justice system, and always keep alive the importance of hope and resilience in the face of adversity.
Nothing is more heartwarming as the Holiday's approach than to re-feature a montage of stories of resilience, community, and the transformative power of giving. In this newly arranged episode, we delve into the inspiring initiatives from the Franklin County Sheriff's Office's gardening program, the impactful work of the East Hampton Community Center, and the innovative food service programs at the Maine Department of Corrections. These stories highlight how individuals and organizations are making a difference in the lives of those in need, proving that compassion and community spirit can flourish even in challenging circumstances.
Sheriff Jillian Myers of Grafton County, New Hampshire, isn't just the first and youngest female High Sheriff ever elected in her hometown, but she's also a wife and mama to her three little girls. While a career in law enforcement wasn't on her radar till college, Sheriff Myers says she couldn't see herself doing anything else. Her commitment to the communities and people within her rural county, the staff under her watch, and her collaborative efforts with other law enforcement agencies have made an undeniable impact since her taking office in January of 2025. As one of only two female Sheriffs in New Hampshire and one of 50 Nationwide, this episode is a testament to courage, leadership, and commitment to making a difference, because age is really just a number.
When three women, a Warden, an Attorney turned Social Justice advocate, and a Filmmaker all cross paths at a maximum security prison for women in Bedford Hills, NY, anything is possible. The synergy they embody drives ground-breaking change for the innovative work taking place at the Bedford Hills Correctional Center. From filmmaker Jenifer McShane, whose documentary Mothers of Bedford explored the transformative power of empathy and family structure at the Bedford Hills Children's Center, to advocate Barbara "Bobby" Blanchard, who dedicated her career to helping incarcerated mothers maintain their bonds with their children, and lest we forget, there's former Warden Elaine Lord, who championed the innovative programs for women at Bedford Hills and set a new bar for success. This episode highlights the importance of compassion, connection, and second chances, so join us for a montage of these incredible women, their legacies, and the impact they've made in the lives of many. Full episodes of each are available wherever you get your podcasts.
In this montage episode, join us on a reflective journey as we share three of our favorite author interviews from the last few years. With highlights from discussions with notable and famous legal figures, Stephen Bright and James Kwak, who delve into the systemic failures of justice in the criminal courts, to Sarah Burns, a documentarian and author, who recounts the harrowing story of the Central Park Five. Additionally, we hear from Laura Love Hardin, whose memoir and Oprah Book Club pick reveals her transformative journey through addiction and incarceration. We hope you enjoy a piece of each of these compelling narratives that challenge the perceptions of justice and resilience. Full episodes of each are available wherever you get your podcasts.
Meet Ivy Scott, a community engagement reporter for The Marshall Project. Ivy currently covers community-driven investigative and public service journalism about the criminal justice system in St.Louis and the state of Missouri. So what is The Marshall Project? Named after civil rights advocate Thurgood Marshall, The Marshall Project is a national nonprofit news organization that seeks to elevate criminal justice issues and spark a conversation about reform. Ivy Scott is one such seasoned reporter, and in this episode she shares her insights on the complexities of the American justice system and the importance of uncovering stories that demand change and give a voice to the unheard. This conversation is a powerful reminder that true stories can change how we see each other and inspire a collective push for justice.
"We could write this book together. We couldn't have written it apart." Those are the words of Dr. Kevin Wright, Director of the Center for Correctional Solutions at Arizona State University, discussing his co-authorship of the groundbreaking book, Imprisoned Minds: Lost Boys, Trapped Men, and Solutions from Within the Prison. But this co-authorship wasn't a typical collaboration, because the originator of the theory behind the 'imprisoned mind' is Erik Maloney, an incarcerated man serving a life sentence in an Arizona State Prison. Dr. Wright and Erik met through the ASU Inside-Out Exchange Program, a global initiative that brings together college students and incarcerated individuals to participate in a credit-bearing college course behind the wall. It was here that Erik presented his imprisoned mind theory, taken from in-depth interviews with other incarcerated men, to Dr. Wright and asked if he would provide the academic framework and scholarly expertise to bring Erik's book vision to life. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that challenges perceptions and emphasizes the power of storytelling in shaping our understanding of justice.
Elaine Lord may have been the youngest woman to become a Warden in the State of New York, but even before her appointment at Bedford Hills Correctional, she was on a mission to improve the incarcerated programs within the New York prison walls. Before her retirement, Elaine dedicated 20 years to Bedford Hills, providing women behind bars a second chance. Her inspiring stories of the Children’s Center at Bedford Hills and her mission to keep incarcerated Mothers connected to their children were only a part of the vital work required to change lives within the prison system. Join us as we explore the complexities of justice, compassion, and the importance of human connection in corrections, a legacy that Elaine Lord can be proud of.
A recent 2024 report estimates that 23.5 million people in the United States are in recovery from a substance use disorder based on data from the 2024 National Survey on Drug Use and Health. Anyone going through recovery will tell you that having support and hope are essential to overcoming their addiction, whether or not they’ve served time behind the wall. For John Sullivan and Charlie Worpek, the Northampton Recovery Center offered each the transformative power of a community of Angels. Together, they share their inspiring journeys of recovery, resilience, and hope. John and Charlie each navigate their own stories, shedding light and tears on the challenges and triumphs they faced on the path to sobriety. This episode is a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the importance of finding a supportive community in a time of darkness.
Christie Johnson grew up believing she could get away with just about anything. As a small-town Texas cheerleader, she thought she was untouchable, unstoppable, and immortal. But addiction, a horrific accident while serving in the military, and time in prison shattered that illusion and sparked something far more powerful, an awakening like no other. Christie’s journey is one of struggle, resilience, and ultimately, redemption. Now, as a member of the Cornbread Hustle family, a second-chance and skill training hiring agency, Christie dedicates her life to helping others find their second chance. Join us as we explore her raw and inspiring story that reminds us of the power of possibility, the strength of the human spirit, and that miracles do happen.
When Cary Sanders speaks, his calming tone and gentle cadence would never give you a clue that he had been arrested 17 times by the time he was 17. Cary’s journey from his tumultuous past and time behind the wall to his current position as CEO of JUMPSTART South Carolina can only make one believe that Cary’s life has been guided by a higher power, and he would agree. At JUMPSTART, Cary leads a transformative re-entry program that begins in prison, highlighting the power of faith and second chances while helping break cycles of crime and addiction. Tune in to hear his inspiring journey of hustle, redemption, and impactful work he and his volunteers are doing to not only help others find their purpose but to support those returning to the community with housing, jobs, and other re-entry services.
Barbara (Bobby) Blanchard is a passionate advocate who transitioned from a law career to further the impactful work of Sister Elaine Roulet at The Children’s Center in the Bedford Hills Correctional Facility in New York State. In this episode, Bobby shares her journey of creating and overseeing programs that helped incarcerated women maintain their bonds with their children, and learn to be Mothers despite their cement surroundings. Bobby was also prominently featured in the 2011 documentary Mothers of Bedford, directed by Jenifer McShane. While Bobby no longer works at Bedford Hills, her passion for the criminal justice system has not waned; she currently has a new mission in Vermont, focusing on restorative justice programs. This conversation with Bobby is a heartfelt exploration of transformation, compassion, and the importance of second chances for mothers and their children.
Heather Canuel, a powerful activist, entrepreneur, mother, and grandmother, is also known for being the last woman to give birth while shackled to a prison bed in Illinois, more than 20 years ago. In this episode, Heather shares her harrowing journey through the criminal justice system, the trauma of her experience while being pregnant, and her fight for reform and justice for incarcerated mothers. Heather’s experience and current life mission provide an inspiring discussion about survival, resilience, and the importance of creating change, both inside the wall and beyond.
It may have taken multiple years, but Lisa Hall will tell you that it was a worthy and honorable mission to create a film dedicated to addiction and incarceration. As an inspiring filmmaker and documentarian, Lisa dedicated herself to shedding a brighter light on a subject that impacts so many on a daily basis. In creating the film ’The Addict's Wake,' Lisa’s vision aimed to not only change the narrative surrounding addiction but also its effects on local communities, as well as the critical role of law enforcement in addressing the addiction crisis. ‘The Addict’s Wake’ is currently available to view on PBS and is also available for distribution within local communities and schools. Lisa can be reached at Glory Girl Productions.
Mark McBrine grew up on a farm and expected that to be his lifelong calling, but God had another plan. When his father became ill and his family needed help running the farms, Mark, at the age of 49, became a Correctional Officer with the Maine Department of Corrections. From there, it didn't take long for Mark to become the Food Service Manager at the Mountain View Correctional Facility. When then-Warden Randy Liberty was interested in reducing the waste inside the prison kitchens, Mark stepped up and created an Organic Fruit and Vegetable Production Program. This Farm to Table program within the Maine Department of Corrections forever changed how food can be grown, harvested, and consumed behind the wall! Mark's inspiring work in enhancing food quality and providing vocational training to incarcerated individuals across eight state prisons and is now a model for other prisons and jails across the United States. Mark and his team have helped many incarcerated individuals gain skills and knowledge in gardening, harvesting, cooking, and even baking 100% of the prison's own breads and desserts. The discovery of how innovative agricultural practices and a commitment to scratch cooking continue to change lives and foster responsibility. Much of this can be seen in the documentary Seeds of Change, Breaking Free from the Prison Food Machine. Don't miss this enlightening discussion that challenges perceptions and highlights the power of compassion and second chances, through food.
Whether you’re a sports fan or a parent in the stands, there is a distinct difference between the role of the Coach and the role of the Referees. Nowhere is it more apparent than watching the 2025 NFL pre-season games to get a true perspective on the differences. In this, part 2 of the conversation with Dr. Brian Lovins, President of Justice System Partners, Brian shares more about the transformative coaching model he and his other collaborators created back in 2018, how that initial model is now focused on four dimensions of coaching; the Approach, the Connection, the Playbook and the Success, and the importance of accountability, and the real life implications of this innovative model that is evolving and reshaping the experiences of those it was designed for.
In sports, there are Coaches and there are Referees, but what about in the criminal justice system? That was the question that Dr. Brian Lovins, currently President of Justice System Partners, asked himself during his tenure at the Harris County Correctional System as Assistant Director. During that time, Dr. Lovins was tasked with developing and implementing agency-wide change plans to drive increased successful completion rates of justice-impacted individuals on probation. It was during this time that an ‘ah-ha moment seized Dr. Lovins, and he, along with some collaborators, created the Coach vs. Referee model to emphasize the importance of connection and support for individuals navigating the justice system. These many years later, through research and hands-on experience with the Idaho Department of Corrections, Dr. Lovins and his team have been front and center with the Coach vs. Referee model to help reduce recidivism and foster success by offering a more compassionate and effective approach to justice.
Every name has a meaning. The name Gemma refers to ‘a bud ready to grow independently’. Appropriately, this name was chosen by the incarcerated women who originally founded The Gemma Project, a jail and prison reentry program to assist incarcerated and formerly incarcerated women with successful reintegration. While reentry should be mainstream for all incarcerated individuals who are returning to their communities, this important programming is still spotty across the United States, and isn’t always designed with consideration for each individual's needs. Cynthia Chase, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Gemma Project, has spent 25 years working within the criminal legal system as a dedicated leader and tireless advocate, including as Mayor of Santa Cruz, California. Cynthia highlights the importance of amplifying the voices of justice-involved women and uncovering the stories that challenge societal perceptions.
Jenifer McShane never planned on becoming an award-winning independent filmmaker, but life had other plans. From her early work on 'A Leap of Faith’, narrated by Liam Neeson, to her latest Netflix documentary, 'The Quilters', Jenifer shares her journey of storytelling that humanizes those behind both literal and figurative bars. But it is at the Missouri South Central Correctional Center, a Level 5 State Prison, where Jenifer explores the transformative power of art, the importance of empathy, and the stories that challenge our perceptions of justice and redemption, while bridging the gap between society and the incarcerated.
Lara Love Hardin is a NY Times best-selling author, including a 2024 Oprah Book Club pick, a 5-time NY Times bestselling collaborative author, a literary agent, a Mother, and a prison reform advocate. She’s also a former addict and justice-involved individual. Lara’s memoir, The Many Lives of Mama Love: A Memoir of Lying, Stealing, Writing, and Healing, is the transformational story of her life, her experiences with the criminal justice system, and the stigma surrounding addiction. While her story contains notes of "Wild", "Orange is the New Black", and "Catch Me If You Can", it is the power of storytelling that offered her a means of healing and forgiveness, because as she says, "I want to do what's true to me".
In Episode 117, Sheriff Brad Burkhart inspired us with his commitment to help those justice-impacted individuals under his watch return to their communities with a new lease on life. In this episode, we return to Hancock County, Indiana, to meet jail navigator Crystal Petty and former jail resident Danielle Brashear as they discuss the innovative programs implemented at the Hancock County Jail, from education and rehabilitation to reducing recidivism, AND saving Hancock County millions of dollars! Danielle also shares her powerful story of overcoming addiction, regaining her son, and finding her purpose. Her transparency highlights the importance of support systems and community involvement in fostering change, and Danielle is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the potential for redemption.,
From a small-town upbringing, working in construction, to leading the Albany County Sheriff's Office, in New York State, Sheriff Craig Apple has placed a strong emphasis on programs that have drastically reduced recidivism and received statewide and national recognition. From his day-to-day watch of 748 employees and 800-900 incarcerated individuals, he has built programs that will last long after his time as Sheriff. His triumphs include a Heroin Addiction Recovery Program, a Soldier On program for Veterans, an Inmate Fire Training program and an Inmate Work Force Program, still to him, one of his greatest legacies is a housing area, within the jail, but separate from the incarcerated individuals, that assist the local homeless population. This innovative homeless improvement program, initiated after COVID-19, has given hope and a new lease on life to so many who once walked the streets of Albany.
Drawing from his upbringing on an Indiana farm, Sheriff Brad Burkhart’s philosophy is grounded in the idea of “planting seeds of hope and opportunity” for those incarcerated individuals under his watch in Hancock County. With over 38 years of experience in law enforcement, Sheriff Burkhart shares his journey and has seen firsthand that in corrections, there is a need to prepare the ground for individuals to grow and thrive, just like the seeds he planted as a young farm boy. One such preparation is the utilization of the Orijin tablets, which provide incarcerated individuals access to educational resources and vocational training, thus fostering hope and opportunity. It is the transformative power of the tablet initiative, along with other programs behind the wall, that is creating a positive impact and reducing recidivism in the Hancock County community.
There aren’t many people who can transition from incarceration for a white-collar crime to CEO of an established educational nonprofit, but then again, Jeff Abramowitz is unlike most people you’ll ever meet. As CEO of the critically acclaimed Petey Green Program, Jeff discusses the transformative power of education for incarcerated and formerly incarcerated individuals, a firsthand experience he gained when going from a successful trial lawyer to incarceration for a white collar crime. It was that experience, behind the wall, that shaped his commitment, upon his release, to helping others overcome the challenges of reentry into society. Tune in to hear Jeff talk about the importance of understanding choices, the impact of educational programs, and how to break the cycle of poverty and incarceration.
In Franklin County, Massachusetts, Sheriff Lori Streeter may be the newest female Sheriff in Massachusetts. She joins Sheriff Donna Buckley of Barnstable County as one of two female Sheriffs across the Commonwealth, but Sheriff Streeter is also the first female Sheriff to be appointed, in her County by the Governor. (She takes over for Sheriff Donelan, who retired early.) With over 35 years of experience in the Franklin County Sheriff's office, Sheriff Streeter shares her climb up the proverbial ladder, from correctional officer to Sheriff, her passion for the job, the challenges she faced during her appointment to Sheriff, and her vision for the future of the office. Listen in to hear her talk about the importance of community relationships, the innovative programs for incarcerated individuals that she will continue to support and grow, and the significance of having women in leadership roles within law enforcement.
Upon driving into the State of Maine there is a sign that reads, ‘WELCOME TO MAINE, THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE’. For thirty-eight years, Kevin Joyce, the current Sheriff of Cumberland County, Maine, has made it his mission to ensure that his county, which includes the city of Portland, Maine, lives up to its state motto. While the State of Maine, in general, is considered rural, Cumberland County is a blend of cities, towns, and the second-largest and deepest lake in the state. This combination offers its own unique challenges and responsibilities for Sheriff Joyce and his law enforcement team. From the intricacies of managing a large jail population, to the impact of mental health and substance use on the Maine justice system, and the importance of community engagement, Sheriff Joyce is still as passionate about his mission and the people under his watch, both outside and behind the wall, as he was thirty-eight years ago.
In another milestone episode, retired prison Chaplain Peg Newman shares an insightful and heartfelt look inside her life journey at the intersection of faith, spirituality, and the criminal justice system. From her early work with AIDS patients to providing spiritual guidance to incarcerated individuals with life sentences or facing death and dying, her stories offer profound reflections from a compassionate vantage point. Peg highlights the importance of community, connection, and the human spirit despite the most challenging of circumstances, and the gifts that she unexpectedly received when placing her faith in front of her fear.
In Episode 108, Attorney Charlie Weiss shared the wrongful conviction and exoneration of Josh Kezer, a man who spent sixteen years in prison for a murder he didn’t commit. That interview led to a compelling conversation with former Scott County Sheriff Rick Walter. Rick shares his harrowing experience of discovering the body of Mischelle Lawless in 1992 and the subsequent investigation by a previous Sheriff, which led to the wrongful conviction of Josh Kezer. Rick discusses the complexities of the case, his journey through law enforcement that led him to serve three terms in Scott County, and the emotional weight of reopening a case, as now Sheriff, that haunted him for decades. Listen in as we unpack the intricacies of justice, the impact of personal history, and the relentless pursuit of truth.
In part 2 of this gripping story, former Sheriff Rick Walter dives deeper into the complex and haunting case of murder victim Mischelle Lawless. After years of investigation and a wrongful conviction, Rick shares his journey of reopening the case, the obstacles he faced, and the truth he uncovered. This episode also delves into the themes of justice, perseverance, and the impact of systemic failures in the criminal justice system. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation that challenges the narratives surrounding crime, redemption, and an unsolved case, 32 years later.
In this milestone episode, The Hustler Files welcomes, for the first time, a Department of Corrections (prison) Commissioner. Randall Liberty is the head of the Department of Corrections in Maine, overseeing eight prison/correctional facilities. With over 43 years of experience in law enforcement, Commissioner Liberty shares his transformative journey from visiting his father in prison at the age of six to leading the most progressive corrections model in the US. Discover how he is reshaping the prison system by focusing on rehabilitation, education, and community reintegration, all while reducing violence and promoting dignity within the correctional environment. His innovative approaches such as salad bars from the prison gardens, a Christmas tree farm that returns the trees to local Vets and their families, and remote work opportunities, with fair market pay for residents of his prisons, plus the importance of treating residents with respect, is a testament to the power of change in the criminal justice system. Because when Liberty is your last name, your life’s mission is clear.
Laurence Colletti is a seasoned podcast producer, writer, and attorney. For over a decade, he’s brought to light the stories and critical issues surrounding prison reform and wrongful convictions while hosting the Legal Talk Network Podcast, and producing the For The Innocent Podcast. In this episode of The Hustler Files, Laurence shares his journey into podcasting, the emotional stories behind some of those who were wrongfully accused, and the impactful work that must continue to bring these narratives to light.
"The future isn't about what you do. It's about what you're for”. Charlie Weiss never thought he’d become an attorney, but a chance meeting with a man of the cloth led him to a scholarship at Notre Dame Law School and a storied career fighting for the rights of those who are wronged. From his early days in law to his impactful pro bono work, Charlie shares inspiring stories of those wrongfully convicted individuals and why, at age 83, he continues his relentless pursuit of justice for those who are innocent and living behind bars.
To date, 99 incarcerated men have participated in the Nurturing Fathers program at the Hampshire County Jail and it’s nothing short of transformative. Incarcerated fathers seeking to reconnect with their children attend this 13-week program, behind the wall, to help them become better fathers. Listen as Sheriff Patrick Cahillane shares insights on the program's success since its inception in 2017, including the remarkable graduation rates and positive participant feedback. Also joining in is Steven Pascal from the Children's Trust of Boston. Both the Sheriff and Steven share the importance of prevention in child welfare and the collaborative efforts aimed at reducing recidivism through fatherhood engagement. Tune in to discover how kindness, humility, and love can reshape lives and strengthen family bonds.
What started as a gym is now a community where people belong together. In this space, surrounded by weight machines, free weights, and mats, they are valued as equals, and those with lived experience are listened to as the experts. As April marks Fair Chance Hiring Month, guests Caz Walcott, Director of Inclusive Hiring at the Responsible Business Initiative for Justice (RBIJ), and Jon Feinman, Founder of Inner City Weightlifting share the transformative power of inclusive hiring practices and the importance of creating opportunities for justice-impacted individuals. Caz’s journey and the mission of RBIJ, emphasize their three pillars: reforming justice systems, restoring communities, and reframing narratives around second-chance hiring. Jon recounts his experiences founding Inner City Weightlifting and highlights the community-building aspect that transcends traditional fitness programs. Together, they explore the nuances of their work, the challenges they face, and the profound impact of fostering connections between diverse groups. Tune in to discover how both organizations are reshaping perceptions and creating pathways to success for those often overlooked by society.
With over two decades of experience, reporter Katie Johnston shares her journey from reporting on arts and entertainment to focusing on work and income inequality, specifically with incarcerated and justice-involved populations. Katie’s dedication to offering a voice to those who don’t have one is the driving force behind her writing. In this episode, Katie discusses her recent article highlighting the challenges and triumphs of individuals navigating reentry into society, including innovative programs in Maine that allow incarcerated individuals to work remotely from their jail cell and earn substantially more than the average worker in the US. Katie delves into the nuances of storytelling in journalism, the importance of giving a voice to marginalized communities, and the evolving landscape of criminal justice reform. It is and will continue to be the power of storytelling that offers hope to those striving for a second chance.
To be in the wrong place at the wrong time cost William Allen 28 years behind bars for an unintended crime. William shares his tumultuous journey from his early days of family dysfunction, the guilt he carried from a childhood accident, and the pivotal moments that led him into a life of crime. He candidly recounts the fateful robbery that resulted in a tragic death and how he found himself facing life without parole. As he navigated the harsh realities of prison life, William discovered his passion for barbering and the importance of community support. After years of advocacy and a campaign for commutation, he emerged from incarceration with a renewed purpose. Now a leader in Second Chance Justice, William is dedicated to reforming the reentry system and helping others avoid the struggles he faced. Join us as we explore themes of redemption, responsibility, and the power of second chances in this heartfelt episode.
In this powerful episode Miguel Vazquez engages in a heartfelt conversation about his journey from the streets of Brooklyn to an 18-year prison sentence. His story is nothing short of transformative. Miguel opens up about his challenging upbringing in a single-parent household, the loss of his mother, and the choices that led him down a path of crime and incarceration. His candid reflections reveal the harsh realities of life behind bars, the struggles with gang affiliation, and the profound impact of isolation on his mental health. After serving nearly two decades, Miguel faced the daunting task of reintegrating into a world that had moved on without him. With only $647 to his name, he shares the challenges of navigating life post-incarceration, still Miguel’s story is also one of hope, redemption, and the importance of building bridges for others who will follow in his footsteps.
At Baker Industries, an organization dedicated to providing fair chance hiring for marginalized communities in Eastern Pennsylvania, their mission is centered around four simple but powerful words. EMPLOY those who have the most difficulty in getting and holding jobs. TEACH the work ethic through real work experience. ACT as a transition step toward gaining and maintaining outside employment. HELP those who are both able and unable to move on to reach their highest level of achievement. Founded by Charlie and Weezie Baker in 1980, Baker Industries has evolved from a small garage operation into a thriving social enterprise that empowers individuals with disabilities, returning citizens, and those in recovery from addiction or homelessness. Join us as we speak with Nick Watson, the president of Baker Industries, and Nate Bunday, a graduate of their program who recently transitioned back into the workforce after 29 years of incarceration. Together, they share insights on the importance of second chances, the challenges faced by those re-entering society, and the vital role of community support in fostering success. Discover how Baker Industries is reshaping lives and breaking down barriers to employment, proving that everyone deserves a chance to thrive.
IF YOU'RE JUST FINDING OUR PODCAST, THE HUSTLER FILES, WELCOME! WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU LISTEN IN! THIS IS OUR THIRD SEASON AND WE'VE GOT OVER 100 EPISODES, SO FAR, FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM. WE KNOW IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING WHEN YOU COME ACROSS A NEW SHOW. OUR EPISODES ARE CREATED WITH THE MISSION TO BREAK STIGMAS, RESHAPE NARRATIVES, AND AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF JUSTICE-INVOLVED INDIVIDUALS, ADVOCATES, AND CHANGE-MAKERS. EACH WEEK WE OFFER POWERFUL STORYTELLING AND CANDID INTERVIEWS THAT BRING HUMANITY TO ISSUES OFTEN OVERLOOKED. IF YOU CARE OR ARE EVEN A BIT INTERESTED ABOUT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, ADDICTION RECOVERY, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, FAIR-CHANCE EMPLOYMENT, AND PRISON REFORM, THEN YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT PODCAST.
Every incarcerated person knows the exact date and time of their parole hearing, even if it’s years in the future. For Chan Park, his first parole hearing took place after 13 years, 8 months of incarceration. His rejection by the Parole Board because he hadn’t served enough time. That was the first of what would be three more parole hearings over the next 20 years, four in total. All ended in rejection. One can only wonder how Chan kept his hopes alive. Despite his well-laid out parole plans, his exemplary prison record, his many certifications in a variety of vocational trainings, nothing would circumvent the three-hour interrogations by the Parole Board and their decisions administered in only 30 minutes. Chan would not be released. Yet, Chan stays hopeful. He continues to tweak his parole plan and contribute to the progressiveness of San Quentin, sitting on one of the newly formed, internal Advisory Councils created by Governor Newsom. At the end of the day, no matter what, he says, ‘when you’ve served 3 or 4 or 5 decades, sometimes the only person you have left to talk to is God, and that goes a long way’. Chan is scheduled for his next parole hearing in May 2026. He is hopeful he can reschedule it to sometime this year, in 2025.
In March of 2023, Governor Newsom of California announced that the infamous San Quentin State Prison would have its name changed to the San Quentin Rehabilitation Center. Since the mid-1800s San Quentin has housed some of the most notorious criminals, but times are changing and that includes the use of tablet technology for the incarcerated population. California, like Massachusetts and other states offers free calling on the tablets but texting is still a feature that the incarcerated population must pay for. Because of tablet telecommunications, we can speak with Chan Park directly from his cell inside San Quentin in this milestone episode. Chan has served a total of 32 years in the California corrections system, with this last decade at San Quentin. Chan’s transparency and honesty about his past, his incarceration at the age of 26, his evolution to take responsibility for his actions, and under the new rehabilitation moniker be more involved in helping create change for his San Quentin community, is inspiring. Tune-in for Episode #101 when we continue our conversation with Chan and learn about his bid for parole.
Some prison reform advocacy organizations call their mission, pillars. Some, key initiatives, and in the case of the advocacy organization, The Sentencing Project, are strategic priorities. But at The Sentencing Project, they take their mission one step further and bring a unique value to their prison reform work, as a bridge organization. For Kara Gotsch, Executive Director, uniting their work on the ground, (state-level organizations) with the overarching policy changes at the National Level (legislatively), The Sentencing Project creates a holistic approach to advancing change within their three strategic priorities; extreme sentencing, voting rights, and youth justice reforms. In 2023 as part of their mission to roll back extreme sentencing, they launched their Second Look Network to provide direct legal representation to incarcerated individuals seeking relief from lengthy or unfair sentences. Bridges connecting people to move the prison reform needle.
Gabrielle Perry was one of the lucky ones. Her birth mother was incarcerated when giving birth to Gabrielle. She engaged the aid of a friend who found a family to adopt Gabrielle, site unseen. Her parents were older, settled and without children and as she tells it, her beloved father Thurman Perry, answered the call to raise her as his own. Gabrielle’s life was as normal as could be until as a teenager she lost her beloved father, her mother became disabled, she learned she was adopted, and met her birth mother on her deathbed. Despite Gabrielle’s grit and dedication to her adoptive mother, survival eventually took her down the justice-impacted path. It was during that time in jail that Gabrielle says she found a peacefulness away from the stress of her life. She also found a level of kindness, especially from the Judge who finally heard her case. Gabrielle was once again one of the lucky ones, and over the years has achieved so much. Her greatest joy now is honoring her birth mother and the man who raised her, as she provides direct assistance and resources to system-impacted women and girls.
There are a little over 3,000 Sheriffs’ in the United States. Of that number only 60 are women. Sheriff Donna Buckley of Barnstable County, Massachusetts,(also better known as Cape Cod) is the first female in the County’s 331-year history to hold this office. Sheriff Buckley will tell you that running for Sheriff in 2022 was not on her bucket list, but still, she saw an opportunity to use her forty year background as an Attorney in Criminal Law and Government to build a new path forward for the incarcerated population at the Barnstable jail. As the Sheriff herself states, ‘there is no script to being Sheriff’, but in her role, she believes it is her solemn responsibility to those incarcerated, their families, and the community to provide pathways to a better tomorrow. Sheriff Buckley’s jail houses both men and women but one of her priorities is to cut down the generational incarceration, especially with the women who are under her watch. In a recent survey, the number of her incarcerated women with children, was as she stated, ‘unsettling’. Her 95 incarcerated women, many victims themselves, equated to 103 children.
In the movie E.T., the alien builds a way to communicate with his planet. Inside the jails and prisons in the US, communication between an incarcerated individual and their family and friends, was for many decades, strictly by mail but technology waits for no one. Today, many behind the wall have access to tablets, kiosks, and wall-mounted phones, with tablets being the most popular. Of course, not ALL incarcerated people have access to tablets, and for many, there is a hefty charge, not just for calls but also for SMS Texting. In recent years, States like California and Massachusetts have eliminated charging those incarcerated for their calls, but text messaging is still a pretty penny. The two largest telecom companies providing the tablets and kiosks are funded by private equity investors, people who see the usage from behind the wall as a recession-proof model. Whether the incarcerated population pays out of their commissary account, or in some cases the State pays for the calls, communication from inside has become a billion-dollar industry. In those States where the calls have become ‘free’, the States negotiate a contract with the jail or prison and then cover the costs of the phone and video calls, just not the texts. While the FCC has placed regulatory action to bring the costs down, it is still mostly low-income people who are providing the funds to stay in touch with their incarcerated loved ones.
According to the Responsible Business Initiative for Justice or, in short, RBIJ, everyone is entitled to respect, equality, fairness, and dignity under the law. It is this mission that drives Maha Jweied and her team to work with companies and bring solutions that promote public safety, deliver justice, and strengthen communities. But RBIJ doesn’t stop there. They are dedicated to changing the legal structures and systems that have been used to harm Black and Brown communities in the United States, the United Kingdom, and elsewhere around the globe. From the Clean Slate legislation, currently passed in twelve states, to the most recent Clean Slate legislation submitted in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to Business Leaders Against the Death Penalty, with 450+ executives from around the world, Maha Jweied and her team are speaking up and stepping up to create a more humane approach to the justice system.
The title of this episode is aptly named for guest Aron Roy. Like many justice-impacted individuals, Aron's journey means digging down deep to find the grit to transform and not return to their past life. But Aron also has the courage to share what sent him to prison for almost a decade and the transformation that took place during those years. Aron’s story is semi-unique in that he entered prison with a Bachelor’s Degree. As Aron fully admits, he was a functioning addict, until he wasn’t. His experience in the California prison system is eye-opening to hear about, but even more so was his realization that his future job prospects would be, at best, minimal. Aron’s ‘ah-ha’ moment was profound, and a guiding light on his road to reentry.
As Joe Biden started winding down his Presidency, and Donald Trump started accelerating his, Joe Biden took advantage, like all Presidents, to commute 37 men sitting on death row. These commutations reduce their sentences from the death penalty to life without parole. These 37 (out of 40) are in federal prisons vs. the thousands that sit on death row, in the State prison systems and can only be commuted by the individual state Governors. The 3 men who did not receive commutations and will stay on death row are those involved with terrorism and hate-motivated mass murder. Trump has never been quiet about his support of the death penalty and his call to expand federal executions, once he takes office for the 2nd time. It was during his last presidency that he restarted federal executions, after a 20-year pause, and 13 were executed. Since 1973 at least 200 people in the United States who were convicted and sentenced to the death penalty have been exonerated! If you want more information on the Death Penalty, visit the Death Penalty Information Center.
Throughout this 2nd full season, one of the go-to themes has been to chat with various Sheriffs about their jails and the communities they have watch over. In case you’re not aware, there are approximately 3100 Sheriffs’ across the United States and a similar amount of jails. Also if you’re not aware, the various tiers of incarceration are Jail, State/Private, & Federal. While each Sheriff runs his or her jail slightly differently, they all answer to their communities, the people who elected them. Note: This is not the case in the State and Federal carceral system. In this, Episode #92, and the last episode of 2024, we revisit both Sheriff Nick Cocchi of Hampden County, Massachusetts, and Sheriff Patrick Cahillane of Hampshire County, Massachusetts. Both are avid supporters of The Hustler Files show, but more importantly, innovative and forward-thinking when it comes to not only rehabilitating their jail population but doing the right thing for their fellow citizens. Episode #93 will be the first episode of 2025!
In April of 2023, Episode #11, we first chatted with Economist and Author Jeff Korzenik. His book, Untapped Talent, had been recently released, and we were excited to hear about how a well-known, National U.S. Economist, became involved in the fair chance hiring movement. Since then, Jeff has been crisscrossing the U.S. making a case for hiring justice-impacted individuals, one speaking engagement at a time. From well-known business schools such as MIT and Wharton to large-scale organizations such as Goodwill, Jeff brings factual and concerning information about the current state of the labor shortage. He also shares the compelling stories of employers and employees who have succeeded in the fair chance hiring model. As Jeff says, ‘the structural labor shortage is an “all hands on deck” problem with no single solution’, and as such, he will continue to spread the
In Episode 89 we became acquainted with Sheriff Karl Leonard of Chesterfield County, Virginia. We circled back with the Sheriff to meet his Behavioral and Mental Health Division Director, Kerri Rhodes. Kerri is no stranger to the tragedy of addiction, and in looking for a way to heal herself, she found a pathway at the Sheriff’s HARP program by helping incarcerated individuals with addictions and introducing a coping and healing mechanism called Trauma Tapping. According to Kerri, Trauma Tapping is based on acupuncture and works with the 12 energy meridians in the body. As a clinician, Kerri is the first to admit that she was highly skeptical of how Trauma Tapping could help people to break free from long-standing addiction, and emotional and psychological barriers. With training and consistent effort, Kerri started to see the positive results of this untraditional treatment not just with the incarcerated individuals, but even the correction officers and other members of the Sheriffs’ staff. Standing by their, ‘we do crazy’ mantra, Kerri launched a series of Trauma Tapping videos for Tik Tok Tuesdays. It wasn’t long before these videos garnered millions more views, but also attracted the attention of Bunnie, wife of country music artist, Jelly Roll. Once Jelly Roll started following the Trauma Tapping videos that were posted, weekly, millions more opted in to watch this unique and evidence-based treatment. In 2023 Jelly Roll made his first in-person visit to the Chesterfield County jail, asking to ‘meet the tapping lady’. He returned again in the Fall of 2024, while touring, and made a one-of-a-kind grand gesture, that impacted more than the men behind the wall.
You have to love a person who has spent 43 years in a career and when asked ‘When are you retiring’ their response is, ‘When I don’t have anything else to learn’. Sheriff Karl Leonard of Chesterfield, Virginia, is that person. For his entire career, he’s been a public servant; from a military career to the Chesterfield Police Department to the Pentagon and now the Sheriff of Chesterfield County, and despite all he’s experienced, he continues to understand the human condition and find ways to be progressive to help those under his watch. His transparency in taking over the Sheriff’s office is refreshing, as he’s the first to admit that there was no Sheriff's instruction book. When his jail was inundated, daily, with locals, addicted to Heroin he trusted his instincts and felt that a higher power was guiding him. This led to the creation of the HARP program, a peer mentor-run program that over the last eight years has successfully helped 3500 people, overcome not just Heroin but other drug or alcohol addictions. As Sheriff Leonard says, ‘There’s a lot of good people behind bars, and there are bad people too, that deserve to spend their lives there, but that’s a small percentage of incarcerated people, and when you learn about (the good people) and their life and the challenges they grew up in, since birth, these are good people with bad circumstances presented to them…’
Sadly domestic violence is a 365-day-a-year issue, but the more survivors step forward, ask for help, and share their stories, the more aware society becomes of this ongoing epidemic. Liz Dineen, CEO of the Western Massachusetts YWCA, has been one of many organizations across the country to take up the protection sword to help women and men, of domestic violence. In conjunction with the Hampden County Sheriff’s Office, a recent media campaign drew hundreds of calls and walk-ins, to her YWCA facility. Every story of domestic violence is unacceptable, and many survivors wish to keep their stories secret out of fear of retaliation, but also out of embarrassment and shame. This was the case with Stephanie of Idaho. Her story is one of beatings, kidnapping, starvation, broken bones, and being stabbed repeatedly with a chisel, to within a literal fraction of her femoral artery. Stephanie’s story is chilling, but her bravery in sharing her abuse is to be applauded! For 13 1/2 years she has rebuilt her life while her abuser has been serving a 15-year prison sentence. But despite her new lease on life, and a 100-year protection order from the courts, Stephanie is terrified of what might lie ahead. PLEASE NOTE THIS EPISODE CONTAINS SOME GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS.
Over the last couple of decades, tech companies and tech-minded entrepreneurs have been developing various ways to assist incarcerated and justice-involved individuals with job training both behind the wall and upon returning to the community. Checkr, a California-based background tech company, has been leading the charge for more employers, like those they work with, to become more socially responsible in the fair chance hiring movement by bridging the gap between employers, needing employees, and justice-involved individuals learning a trade and earning a living wage. To that means, Checkr has launched CATALYST, a 12-month, 2,000 hours, apprenticeship program to offer justice-involved individuals with real-life learning, in a variety of career pathways, and that includes a formal credential from the US Department of Labor, upon completion of their apprenticeship. CATALYST was piloted, in-house, at Checkr for a full year, before launching the roll-out with a handful of employers who believe in this valuable, often-overlooked talent pool. Checkr has committed o$1M over the next two years to expand CATALYST, and Christina Louie Dyer, Head of Corporate Social Responsibility has been tapped to oversee this life-changing initiative.
When you leave jail, there isn't much you take with you, so to receive a backpack filled with shampoo, conditioner, socks, female hygiene items, snacks, water, and other items can feel, as one formerly incarcerated individual, like Christmas. Most ideas to help less fortunate, others, have the commonality of being hatched at a kitchen table, and LOVE In A Backpack is no different. When St. John’s Episcopal Church member, Susan Todd’s daughter, Nell, was assessing the needs of those leaving incarceration, a backpack filled with necessary items and a personalized letter of encouragement, seemed to fill the bill. Since its inception, LOVE In A Backpack has supplied over 600 backpacks to incarcerated women, leaving jail, in Western Massachusetts. According to Jenny Wildermuth, Outreach Coordinator at St. John’s, there is ALWAYS a need for more backpacks and backpack-filling events. They also encourage other churches and congregations across the US to replicate their mission of LOVE and HOPE.
Here in 2024, the 13th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution still states; “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime, whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction”. This year, on the California ballot, was Proposition 6, a ‘yes’ vote would amend the California Constitution and prohibit the state from punishing incarcerated individuals with involuntary work assignments AND from disciplining those who refuse to work. Prop 6 didn’t pass and so slave labor may continue within the California prison system. Nicolas Tirado, of the Anti-Recidivism Coalition, spent 11 years in various California prisons, working at jobs that would have no transferrable skills, back in the community, and making $.86 a day, PRE tax and restitution. His recent online op-ed, in Teen Vogue, was an eye opening article about ending “modern-day slavery” and well worth the read.
Unfortunately, the cycle of domestic abuse can be handed down, from generation to generation, and it is an inheritance that can prove deadly. Such was the case for Kelly Savage-Rodriguez. Kelly grew up in an abusive family, and her mother was constantly, in the criminal justice system. Kelly herself was in a domestic violence situation when sadly she lost her 4 year old son, at the hands of her then-husband. While Kelly’s husband was sentenced to LWOP - Life Without Parole, Kelly herself was charged, at the time, with the California failure to protect law. Kelly served 23 years behind the wall and she also lost her baby daughter to her ex-husbands family. But Kelly wasn’t going to quit fighting for her release, and in November of 2018 had her LWOP sentence commuted by then-California Governor Brown. Through all of Kelly’s pain, she used her time in prison to not only improve herself but help others, including taking on a role with the California Coalition of Women Prisoners, as a Drop LWOP Coordinator. Kelly is still in that role today, but fortunately outside the wall.
On September 10, 2024, in Philadelphia Pennsylvania, Attorney Alex Van Dyke, of famed legal firm, Kline & Specter, along with 67 million viewers tuned in to watch the Presidential debate between Vice President, Kamala Harris, and Donald Trump. What transpired that evening, would once again put the former Central Park Five, now known as the Exonerated Five, back in the spotlight. That night at the podium, Donald Trump relayed false information, stating that the Exonerated Five plead guilty to the assault and rape of the jogger and that she, in-fact, died of her injuries. Neither of these statements are true. In 1989, these five men, then teenagers, were arrested for the rape and assault of that woman. All five pled not guilty, yet were sentenced to years in prison. The victim of this infamous attack suffered horrific injuries, but she did survive. In 2002, with more conclusive DNA evidence, and a confession from the actual rapist, these five men were exonerated and their charges vacated. Fast forward 35 years, and the Exonerated Five have filed a defamation lawsuit against Donald Trump. Listen in as we open this episode with a preamble from Attorney Bill Newman and then, Attorney Alex Van Dyke, from the Exonerated Fives’ legal team, joins us for a first look at this new civil lawsuit against Donald Trump.
Sheriff Kieran Donahue of Canyon County, Idaho, will tell you it’s humbling to be a Sheriff that's responsible for a jurisdiction that encompasses 602 square miles, with a population of close to 250,000, but then again, Sheriff Donahue is no ordinary Sheriff. Sheriff Kieran Donahue’s career reads like an adventure novel and maybe that’s because it’s been just that. From an Alaskan Fish & Game Warden, to a scuba diver on the Exxon Valdez, to working undercover on the Federal Task Force, he’ll also tell you that his career has been undeniably directed by God. As Sheriff Donahue prepares to take on a fourth term for Canyon County, he’s been privileged to also hold his current role as President of the National Sheriffs’ Association, oh and let’s not forget that he’s also a subject matter expert on the Mexican Cartels, their relationship with China, the Northern and Southern borders, and the people and drugs that are being smuggled into the United States, on a daily basis.
We all know the pink ribbon that signifies support for Breast Cancer. But did you know there’s another color ribbon that’s just as significant? It’s the purple ribbon of Domestic Violence. In 2012, in Nampa, Idaho, Sheriff Kieran Donahue of Canyon County approached his wife, Jeanie, and suggested they launch an organization to raise funds for those affected by domestic violence. In his line of work, Sheriff Donahue had encountered both women and men in the throes of intimate partnership violence and he wanted to be a changemaker. Having grown up as a fourth-generation cattleman, Sheriff Donahue was raised with the cowboy codes that included the saying, ‘man up’, meaning, be man enough to deal with a difficult situation. Thus the Man Up Crusade was born. EVERY day in the U.S., 1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men are the victims of severe physical violence by an intimate partner. Man Up Crusade partners with local community events such as rodeos, and fairs to promote safe and healthy relationships through education, advocacy, and funding. Currently, Man Up Crusade has a presence in 18 States and is also supported by the Western States Sheriffs’ Association.
This episode continues some additional, and important storylines we explored during our recent visit behind the wall in Episode 79. Coincidentally, it also touched upon a recent Op-Ed article on BostonGlobe.com from Professor Susan Sered, a criminal justice specialist who wrote, ‘incarcerated women are being held in overly restrictive environments despite evidence that women pose little security risk, compared to their male counterparts.’ Based on what we heard and saw behind the wall, that article and ensuing soundbites we recorded, and now share in this episode created an interesting conversation that included The Hustler Files Producer Jess Tyler. Of the six women we met, 1 was awaiting trial for an alleged murder, 1 for assault with a dangerous weapon, and 1 for carjacking and robbery. The other 3 were sentenced; one for manslaughter (defending herself), one for multiple DUIs, and one for ‘being in the wrong place’. To sit and chat with them, you could close your eyes and be anywhere but behind the wall. The sad common denominator between them was abusive childhoods, no parents or lack of parental boundaries, drugs, alcohol and/or mental health challenges. So the question to be asked is; Are these women as much the victims as they are the criminals?
Eva Hamilton, MBE (Member of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire), is nothing short of a whirling dervish when it comes to seeing a challenge and then creating a solution. For 38 years, Eva has worked with some of the U.K.’s most marginalized groups. From her organization, Business Action on Homelessness to the program Seeing is Believing, a collaboration with HRH The Prince of Wales (now King Charles), Eva believes everyone deserves another chance. Her current crime prevention charity Key4Life offers what she refers to as ‘blended’ Seven Step program to rehabilitate young men in prison or at risk of going to prison and reduce the cycle of crime. Since its inception after the 2011 London riots, Key4Life has impacted over 1000 offenders and run 39 programs with more than 150 UK companies.
We’ve all heard the quote – ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.’ With more than 600,000 people being released across the U.S. each year yet more than two thirds are rearrested within three years, the prison reform wheel needs to become more innovative, and leading that charge is the California organization, Impact Justice. Their overall mission, to get creative, change the script and rules of engagement, believe in one another, and expand what’s possible. Aishatu Yusuf, Vice President of Innovation Programs breaks down some of the transformational projects that take the prison reform movement, head on. Impact Justice programs run the gamut from a reentry mentorship program for formerly incarcerated, to a sharing economy model that pairs returning citizens with welcoming community housing hosts, and a first of its kind partnership to improve food quality, and provide access to fresh, nourishing, appealing food behind the wall. As Aishatu Yusuf says, ‘at Impact Justice we are all doers’.
This milestone episode for The Hustler Files was recorded at the Hampden County Jail, in Western Massachusetts, but this conversation with Sheriff Nick Cocchi, who runs the jail and Liz Dineen, CEO of the YWCA of Western Massachusetts could take place in any city or county, USA. Domestic violence month may be in October, but it’s not a once-a-year issue. It’s also NOT just a female issue. 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience severe intimate partner violence and domestic violence does not discriminate. It affects people of all ages, races, and backgrounds, which is why the YWCA is no longer just a place to find a pool and an exercise class. The YWCA is now a safe haven for women and men who have experienced domestic violence. A place where support for survivors is their top priority with no questions asked, but a shoulder is offered. To also offer support and awareness is Sheriff Cocchi, one of the most progressive Sheriffs anywhere in the U.S. Sadly, this Sheriff had to experience the recent loss of a most beloved Assistant due to domestic violence, but that only fueled his fire to bring awareness to the domestic violence issue that can be right under our noses and thus partnering with the YWCA to amplify the message. As Sheriff Cocchi says, “there is no shame in asking for help if you’re a victim of domestic violence, it’s not YOUR problem, it’s the abuser’s”.
Prison Fellowship is approaching their 50th anniversary, but when Founder, Chuck Colson, President Nixon’s ‘hatchet man’ launched Prison Fellowship, he himself had just served 7 months for his involvement in Watergate. While incarcerated, Colson was inspired to help restore lives and families broken by crime and incarceration. He thought Prison Fellowship would only last 5 years. So, who is Prison Fellowship? It’s a National Ministry established on the biblical belief that all people are made in God’s image with inherent dignity and potential. From Warden Exchange Programs to the Angel Tree Program for children with incarcerated parents, Prison Fellowship can reach thousands of incarcerated individuals through local churches and their volunteers who are managed by a Prison Fellowship Church Mobilization team. While there are other ministries across the U.S., Prison Fellowship is the largest, and like President and CEO, Heather Rice-Minus says, “..once you’ve experienced a Prison Fellowship behind bars, you’ll forever be changed…”.
Launching a social entrepreneurial venture is no easy task, and for Founder, President, and CEO of EDWINS Leadership & Restaurant Institute it was not an overnight success. Brandon conceived the EDWINS concept in 2004, with a three-fold mission: teach a skilled and in-demand trade in the culinary arts, empower willing minds through a passion for hospitality management, and prepare students for a successful transition home. The students who participate in this mission are all justice involved looking for a new life back in the community. But Rome wasn’t built in a day, and it took another three years for Brandon, a formally trained chef and sommelier, to build out the social enterprise model and then another four years before Brandon could launch the Culinary Club classes at the Grafton Correctional Institution. Brandon opened EDWINS restaurant in 2013 and here in 2024 EDWINS has a French Restaurant, Butcher Shop, Bakery, and a Second Chance Life Skills Center which itself is a campus with housing, childcare, library, fitness center, computer lab and more! 600+ have graduated from the EDWINS culinary programs and can boast that only 1% of students have recidivated. Like Brandon says, when asked, how he accomplished so much, his response, “just knock down one problem at a time”.
With a guest gap for this week's show, Creator/Host, Lisa Reilly, thought it would be fun to introduce her Hustler Files Producer Jess Tyler and chat about their favorite shows, since launching The Hustler Files in February 2023. It’s because of Jess that The Hustler Files sounds so great each week! And it’s not a coincidence that it does! Jess has been in radio for as long as she can remember. She’s a long-time radio Jock, producer and program director. She’s a crime/drama junkie and so her passion for The Hustler Files platform and the guests that we have the privilege to chat with each week, is right in her wheelhouse! This was a fun episode to make, and we hope you enjoy something a bit different for this week's show/podcast.
Will Soper was first arrested at the age of eleven, defending himself against the man who was his stepfather. This was not the first time Will had been sexually abused, but it was the first time he fought back and sadly his mother took his stepfather’s side. Despite the toxicity of the family, he was never given any mental health or other counseling and was continually sent back to his mother and stepfather when the foster care system failed him. Will’s abusive upbringing led to a justice involved life, culminating in the sexual assault of a person he knew. Now at 42, Will is finally out of prison and free of parole, but his time served and a personal apology to his victim cannot wipe away his sexual assault charge from his record. In Will’s own words, ‘…all I want to do is just work, even if it means washing dishes, I don’t care…. I can’t go back to jail; I’d rather hold court in the street…’.
Amanda Hall had it all. A flourishing restaurant career as a Regional Training Manager and even her own home. But for Amanda all of that was a facade. Inside she says, ‘I was a mess’. The wrong choice in men, and late nights with friends at the restaurants she trained at, along with rheumatoid arthritis led her from alcohol to cannabis to hard core drugs. As her life story played out, she eventually lost her job, her house and moved back in with her mother while finding financial support on the streets of Ohio, selling drugs. It was a saving grace moment when Amanda sold drugs to an undercover cop, but it would take a couple more arrests, despite the legal support of her parents to finally land her a 2 1/2-year prison sentence at the Ohio Reformatory for Women. Listen in as Amanda shares her past and her miraculous journey, behind the wall, that led her to find a second chance at The JBM Packaging Company.
Alicia and Jenna both grew up in middle-class, 2 parent homes. Alicia was a top student and leader in her school. Jenna went to a private school and had a typical teenage life. But while Alicia and Jenna lived 3000 miles apart their stories became intertwined because they both became victims of human trafficking while still in High School. Even worse, the men that trafficked them, were known to them, and their families. For Alicia, it was her high school soccer coach, and for Jenna, it was her boyfriend. You would think in 2024 that being held captive or forced to have sex for money, or be an indentured servant and live in bondage to another person, went the way of slavery, but it hasn’t. One in three runaways in the U.S. becomes trafficked by another human. There is no cookie-cutter version of a human trafficker or the men who pay to have sex with these women. While there are men who are trafficked, it is a relatively small number, but nonetheless, a violent crime, and for those who have been or still are trafficked, fear, shame, and trust are the biggest factors that keep them tied to their traffickers. It takes a village of love, trust, and therapeutic endeavors to return these victims to their families and communities.
Terah Lawyer is the first to tell you that her lived experience as a formerly incarcerated woman, absolutely fell into the ‘wrong place, wrong crowd, wrong time’ adage. Terah spent 15 years behind the wall, but realized early on, in her incarceration, that her mission was, as she states, “to love on the women” who were behind the wall with her. Taking that leadership role in prison and continuing to educate herself, receiving two associate degrees, was pivotal in preparing her for the work she would take on, once released. That work, in reentry and rehabilitation led Terah to advocate for other justice impacted individuals and not surprisingly it didn’t take long for her to take on the role of Associate Director of The Homecoming Project, an initiative that provides formerly incarcerated people with room to rent with matching housemates. From there Terah was asked to join CROP (Creating Restorative Justice and Programs) and was just recently promoted from Executive Director to President. Visit crop-org.squarespace.com to learn more about their holistic approach to reentry and services for those who are coming home from prison.
There are three comparisons one can make between the musical South Pacific and the Naval Base, Guantanamo Bay. Number 1, both involve islands, Number 2, both involve the U.S. Military and Number 3, both are created after a significant interaction with warring factions – World War II and September 11th. Guantanamo Bay, also referred to as Gitmo, is in Cuba and the military prison there first opened after the September 11th attacks. While the prison was created to house the worst terrorists, many detainees were not even Al Qaeda fighters, but villagers, turned in by their fellow countrymen, for large ransoms. At one time there were 779 people detained, and the reports of torture and abuse were real. Listen in as Attorney’s Bill Newman and Buz Eisenberg share their own experiences on Guantanamo, where, of their own volition, traveled to give council and represent a handful of detainees.
In 2003, Scott Budnick was an EVP at Green Hat Films. One evening he was invited to attend a writing workshop at the juvenile hall through the InsideOUT Writers program. Many of the young people in that program were facing adult prison sentences, and even worse, when released from the juvenile halls and prisons across California, many were returned to incarceration. So, the man whose day job was writing and producing, decided to orchestrate another production in 2013, a production whose mission he aptly named The Anti-Recidivism Coalition (ARC), its main mission, end mass incarceration. But ARC’s ongoing success, in workforce and housing programs, higher employment and lower recidivism rates, takes a well-trained village of team members and volunteers. Under the leadership of Executive Director, Sam Lewis, they continue to rewrite the ARC narrative by changing lives, changing laws, and changing the perception of justice involved individuals.
In the very male dominated field of Ironworkers, Bricklayers and Cement Masons, otherwise referred to as the Trades, a guiding light to help justice impacted WOMEN succeed after prison, has taken shape. Outside of Seattle, Washington, Business Agent, Heather Kurtenbach is leading the charge to see women who are nearing the end of their time behind the wall, participate in a program called TRAC, Trades Related Apprenticeship Coaching. TRAC is run by the Department of Corrections and the local trade unions and offers qualifying women a course in a trade, which then guarantees them a job upon their release. Down the road a piece in Portland, Oregon, Anna Martin is also leading the charge to help women at the Coffee Creek Correctional Center find success upon release. With some entrepreneurial spirit and an Ironworker background, Anna pulled together her local trades in Cement Masons and Bricklayers to form U-PACT, also an apprentice-based program. U-PACT is grant funded and not only offers the training and curriculum to the incarcerated women, but also the wrap-around services needed for equipment and clothing. With such a shortage of employable people in the U.S., these programs are a shining star to help justice involved individuals start over.
Imagine spending a full day, as a volunteer, sitting right next to, or across from, a justice impacted person, except you’re behind the wall with them! You’re shaking their hand, sharing ideas, their ideas to transform their lives, maybe start a business when they get released, and at the end of the day, watching them put on a cap and gown, maybe the first they ever had, and walk across a stage to accept a graduation certificate for participating in a program that brings leadership, empowerment, self-care, healing, and entrepreneurial ideas to paper. Well at Defy Ventures, you don’t have to imagine it. Since its beginnings over a decade ago, Defy Ventures has connected 7,200 volunteers with almost as many justice impacted individuals behind the wall. They’ve also connected many of those same individuals once they are released and have met reentry stability goals, with people and programs to move them forward with their business ideas. None of what Defy Ventures accomplishes is easy, but with Executive Directors, like Melissa O’Dell of Defy Ventures Illinois, even providing opportunities to ONE individual, like Cordelia Spivey, is life changing!
Here in the U.S., there is a belief that the education and workforce systems are broken. At Jobs for the Future (JFF), a national non-profit, they believe it’s time to tap the full potential, skills, and aspirations of more than 70 million people with records, living in the U.S. As part of JFF’s commitment to that effort, they created the JFF Center for Justice & Economic Advancement. Under the guidance of VP Lucretia Murphy, she and her team are focused on providing a road map for federal, state, and local leaders, so they can fine tune and apply their efforts to ‘normalize opportunity’ for people with records.
No one could ever accuse Liz Buxton, Director of Operations at the Western MA Food Processing Center, of having a small heart, especially when it comes to Fair Chance Hiring. Even her wife wrote about her on LinkedIn after this episode aired on @WHMP Radio. ‘My wife constantly amazes me. She's an incredible human and inspirational leader. She leads with her heart. It's what makes her, and her impact, so special.’ And her impact is special. Just ask her Floor Supervisor, Scott Savoie, who served five years behind the wall before finding work at the Food Processing Center. As he puts it, he wasn’t sure that he’d ever find a job once he returned to the community. In his former life he was a mechanic, but years of bending over an engine had taken its toll. With Liz and the Food Processing Center, Scott is able to take his mechanical skills and transfer them to the upkeep of the processing equipment. He’ll be the first one to tell you that having the opportunity to start a new career and work with Liz has been two of his greatest blessings.
Sheriff Patrick Cahillane will tell you that as an elected official of the people, his first responsibility is to the community. But as part of that citizen responsibility, Sheriff Cahillane is also progressive in his thought processes and actions, and as such implements programs and opportunities that will not only help those in his charge, behind the wall, but also those who are released and are in the process of re-entering the community, and like on part of this day, it’s all about creating a human connection between the incarcerated men and a handful of floppy eared Nubian goats.
Kristy Norbert may look like a typical soccer Mom, but ask her about her non-profit organization the Empower HER Network, it’s 11 locations across the U.S. and how every day, she and her team which includes trauma-informed Advocates and former Survivors (the name given to those who have found their way out of a human trafficking situation), are operating from the exit ramp for those who are still caught in the web of human or even labor trafficking. Luckily for some, the Empower HER Network has been able to provide programming, housing, job opportunities and most of all a place of trust for those who have experienced this horrific way of life.
It’s hard to imagine someone spending 24 years in prison, let alone 10 of those in solitary confinement, but 5 years after his release, he’s the Vice President of Social Responsibility at tech innovator CHECKR, and Executive Director of their corporate foundation, Checkr.org. This is the journey of Ken Oliver. In the broad landscape of fair chance hiring, Ken knows firsthand the barriers that face anyone who has been justice impacted. As Ken says, ‘it’s not just someone’s criminal record, but there are 44,000 other collateral consequences that can prevent a justice impacted person from finding a job’. Ken has chosen to take up the flaming sword and use his powerful and passionate voice to educate corporate America, one company at a time, about the fair hiring practices associated with assessing justice impacted individuals when they are applying for a job.
Take a moment and think about that time when someone accused you of saying or doing something that you did not do AND no one will believe you! For those who have been wrongfully convicted and locked up behind the wall the emotional torture of knowing you are innocent is unimaginable. But if you are fortunate to connect with Mike Semanchik, Executive Director of the San Diego, California, Innocence Center, and he and his team research your case and confirm that you were in fact wrongly convicted, well then, you’re in great luck that you might finally be exonerated. Visit the Innocence Center dot org to learn more!
To be a paid journalist writing about prison life and the barriers of justice impacted individuals is one of the two pillars that Ryan Moser represents. The other pillar is that Ryan also has the lived experience of incarceration. After 8 years in prison for a property crime due to his addiction, Ryan has emerged from behind the wall to use his lived experience and unique writing skills to advocate for all aspects of prison reform, including the needs of so many, post incarceration. It was while incarcerated that Ryan attended a writing class with Exchange for Change, a prison writing program. That program and its mentors led Ryan to his journalistic path and appearances on NPR’s All Things Considered, News Nation and CNN. As Ryan himself says, “I’m fighting for social justice through the medium of writing for changes.”
For three decades, Jean Trounstine has dedicated her life to being a storyteller, activist, educator, and theatre Director in the criminal legal system. She came upon her calling while working as an educator at the Women’s Prison in Framingham, Mass, where over the course of a decade she directed eight plays for the incarcerated women, groundbreaking work that resulted in her highly praised book, Shakespeare Behind Bars: The Power of Drama in a Women’s Prison. From her next non-fiction, Boy with a Knife: A Story of Murder, Remorse, and a Prisoner’s Fight for Justice to her first foray into the fictionalized book, Motherlove, just released by the Concord Free Press dot com, (check out for a free copy!), Jean brings to life and light stories that will leave you spellbound while acknowledging that the U.S. criminal justice system is not, and never has been, black and white.
Rewind 25 years, and for most men, their parenting role was that of bread winner and disciplinarian, like their father before them, and so on. Mark Perlman, a licensed social worker and councilor saw an opportunity to change that dynamic while the Executive Director of his wife’s counseling center. As Mark so aptly puts it, “I started writing a program that would offer fathers a workbook guide, but as I wrote the program, I felt as if the subject matter was coming through me, rather than from me’. Mark’s program, and soon to be passed on to one of Mark’s sons, Corey, is being facilitated through counseling agencies, the military, social work curriculums and behind the walls of minimum, medium or maximum prisons, across the United States. Mark’s program takes the voluntary participants on a journey from understanding the roots of their own upbringing to developing attitudes and skills that will ultimately, over the course of the program’s 13 weeks, heal their father wound and change the trajectory of their relationship with their children.
Her team at NBC Universal Filmed Entertainment refers to her as an “inspiration for change”. She herself has faced prejudices throughout her life, but as a HR Professional in the entertainment industry for over 25 years, and now SVP of Human Resources, Globally, Hoai Scott, has played a key role in educating leaders in diversity and inclusion, leading with purpose and creating a culture of inclusion and belonging in the workplace. Beginning in 2018, NBCU began a partnership with the Anti-Recidivism Coalition in Los Angeles to open a door to those who were justice involved but pledged to be crime free, gang free, drug free, enrolled in a school and volunteering in their community. The fair chance hiring opportunities that Hoai and her team offer is a life changing career pathway, and one that celebrates and supports diversity, equity, and inclusion, which is at the very heart of the NBCU culture.
In 1989 two horrific crimes took place in New York City. The first was the rape and almost death of the woman who would be come to know as the Central Park jogger. The second was the arrest, interrogations, and ultimate prison sentencing of five Black and Latino teenagers, for that crime. A crime they would later be exonerated for, in 2002. It was during her senior year of college in 2003, while interning for a law firm, that Sarah Burns began the arduous process of unearthing the entire story, initially for her college thesis, to understand why and how these five teenagers could have been so falsely convicted. Almost a decade later, Sarah, simultaneously, along with her husband David McMahon, not only published the book, The Central Park Five; A Chronicle of a City Wilding, but along with her father, documentarian, Ken Burns, produced, wrote, and directed a film by the same name. The Central Park Five documentary received numerous awards in 2012/2013 and is still available to watch via streaming.
Noelle Hanrahan was 57 when she attended law school. As a founding member of Prison Radio dot org, Noelle realized that it wasn’t enough to just be a journalist and broadcast the voices of those incarcerated individuals who were brave enough to speak out about prison treatment and conditions, she needed to find a way to get their release. Prison Radio stories serve as catalysts for policy changes, public awareness campaigns and community activism aimed at addressing systemic issues within the justice system. Across the U.S. there are approximately 5.5 million people under a form of correctional control.
Venturing Out is the antithesis of what most women behind the wall at MCI Framingham (Massachusetts) will ever be granted. Yet for Beth Goldstein and Elizabeth Swanson their in-prison initiative, Venturing Out, offers so much more than the literal description of their program. For Beth and Elizabeth, whose day job is as educators at Babson College, to go behind the wall to empower and educate the incarcerated female population with an entrepreneurial mindset in humanities and leadership is a way to have local and personal impact on these women’s lives.
For most adults in the U.S. their only exposure to the criminal justice proceeding, known as parole, is what they see on film. But the actual details behind parole hearings, those who qualify, and the process for those incarcerated to receive their freedom is not for the faint of heart. As Attorney Ryan Schiff says, “In a parole hearing, we as attorney’s must take a back seat and no longer be the Director of the proceeding, like we are with our clients, pre-incarceration”. Another fact, the knowledge of a parole hearing, for an incarcerated individual can be many years away. As Attorney Melissa Celli states, “You can walk into any prison in the United States and ask an incarcerated individual the date of their parole hearing, no matter how far in the future, and they will know it.” Join Melissa and Ryan as they open a door to the true facts behind parole.
In January 2024, the criminal justice system progressed for many in Massachusetts and digressed for those on death row in Alabama. In Massachusetts, Attorney Ryan Schiff and others ligated a landmark decision where it is now unconstitutional to sentence any adult, under the age of 21, to life without parole. This new law, in Massachusetts, currently affects 200 incarcerated individuals. The door is now open for them to apply for parole and show that they’ve rehabilitated. This reversal of the current law is based on the advancements in scientific research that the brains of emerging adults, up to age 21, are not yet fully developed. Only one other state, Louisiana, still has a life without parole sentencing for those under the age of 21, for first degree murder. Within 2 weeks of this landmark decision, the State of Alabama executed 58-year-old Kenneth Smith, for murder, with the use of Nitrogen Gas. As David Hoose, a long time Criminal Defense Attorney notes, ‘there is never a good way to kill someone, and right now Nitrogen Gas is the flavor of the month”. So, as we know, once again, how you live or die depends on where you serve your time.
With 10 million job roles open, employers today not only need to broaden their search parameters, but they need to retain the employees they hire. Across the U.S. there are organizations popping up to assist employers by re-imagining how they hire and teaching them how to combat the biases that political unrest, structural racism, and increased mental health conditions have levied on the workforce. To the rescue in Chicago is the Chicago Resiliency Network, an initiative of the Corporate Coalition of Chicago. Heralding their charge to help employers, across their region, create workplaces that are better for employees and better for business, is Program Director, Marcos Gonzalez. Marcos and his team lead the employer cohorts through training and simulations that address the hiring of justice involved individuals and explore the root causes of trauma and toxic stress. The outcome, new knowledge, better training, and stronger resiliency practices that best suit their business.
The murder of George Floyd was a catalyst for an onslaught of positive change in so many areas of our society, and no more so than in Chicago where business leaders came together to address the economic and racial inequities across all the neighborhoods in the Chicago region. Out of that confab came the Corporate Coalition of Chicago with more than 40 members of the Chicago business community, 23 anchor partners and 5 initiatives to reduce long-standing and continuing inequities and create a thriving economy throughout Chicago. One of these initiatives is centered in Fair Chance Hiring and addressing the talent shortage and the population that faces severe limitations to gaining employment because of a criminal record. This model is being adopted across the U.S., but can it grow fast enough to save our businesses who can’t find employees.
In Episode 45, Attorney Ada Lin of Prisoners’ Legal Services in Boston, Massachusetts discussed the need for the pending House and Senate Bill that would allow for a more compassionate release of those incarcerated individuals who were terminally ill or permanently incapacitated and facing an end-of-life situation. In this episode, Ada Lin returns with Dr. Alice Bukhman, an Emergency Department Medical Director, and Head of Medical Partnerships for Prisoners’ Legal Services to discuss the medical parole need in more detail. Ada and Alice offer a voice for those in need of medical parole, and work with teams of hospital caretakers to improve management of agitated patients, and reduce bias, especially where it concerns a shackling of a patient who is already incapacitated.
The Medical Parole House and Senate Bill, in Massachusetts, is described as the following: To ensure that the medical parole works as the Legislature originally intended by providing a measure of public decency toward incarcerated people who are terminally ill or permanently incapacitated while ensuring public safety. This Massachusetts House Bill was written by local Massachusetts House Representative Mindy Domb with the support of Prisoners Legal Services, an organization that considers itself a champion that ‘carries the water’ for current and formerly incarcerated individuals, despite the lawyer ratio of over 3,000 to one. This episode’s conversation may be centered on the State of Massachusetts, but the conversation of Medical Parole is one that is played out, State by State, across the U.S. The key words to finding success for this bill, human decency, and public safety. Where would you stand?
While Stephanie and Corey have vastly different backgrounds and stories, the common thread for both is not only their association with the AISS program at the Hampden County Sheriff’s Office, but their passion to use their past to help change other’s futures. The paths they chose to lead after overcoming lifestyles that ran the gamut from false accusations and wrongful arrests to domestic violence will not only inspire but hopefully activate change for those who may be looking for their better path as they unlock their past and rewrite their future.
When a legendary lawyer and a legal scholar reveal the structural failures that undermine justice in our criminal courts, the result is an absolute MUST READ aptly named The Fear of Too Much Justice. While this is not the first book for authors Stephen Bright and James Kwak, it is their first collaboration that offers a heart-wrenching overview of how the criminal legal system fails to live up to the values of equality and justice. “- their goals are to protect the poor and innocent, expose the truth behind capital punishment and wrongful convictions, and call out corrupt prosecutors and incompetent judges, along with any other bad actors who have ruined our system”. – John Grisham
Massachusetts House Representative Lindsay Sabadosa’s path to politics probably started at the age of nine, when she held a protest march over the closing of her beloved town library. Yet it took a few more decades of working in the private sector before she launched her political career. While Representative Sabadosa takes up the flaming sword in a variety of arenas, she has a deep passion for criminal justice and prison reform, and in this episode speaks passionately about the House Bills she has launched, from changing the parole system for incarcerated elders to implementing an Act that will track how bail must be set, commensurate with a defendant’s economic means.
Justin Brooks will tell you that, as the Founder of the California Innocence Project, he was just following his passion as a criminal justice attorney to exonerate those who were falsely accused and spending decades in prison. He may only have been in his twenties when he launched the California Innocence Project, but as of 2023, Justin has received exoneration for 40 such individuals and travels the world, helping launch Innocence Projects in other countries. It was also Justin who took a chance with Brian Banks and was instrumental in having Brian exonerated! If you think that heroes have gone the way of the dinosaur, you haven’t met Justin Brooks!
If you were hoping to hear how Brian Banks overcame the adversity and punishment that was thrown at him in Part 1 of our interview, then here it is! You’ll hear how Brian stayed ‘sane’ despite his time behind the wall, his home life, that still felt like jail, while on parole, and the knowledge that he’d always live in a societal prison with a sex offender stamp on his record. That was until criminal defense lawyer and the Founding Director of the California Innocence Project, Justin Brooks, agreed to take Brian’s case, despite the fact that he was already post parole, and you’ll NEVER believe the role his accuser played in Brian’s exoneration!
Here, in part 1 of a 2-part episode, is the heartfelt and triumphant journey of Brian Banks. If you don’t know who Brian Banks is, he’s worth a google. Not only did Brian defy the odds, transitioning from wrongful conviction and 5 years imprisonment to NFL dreams and beyond, his story is one of relentless determination, resilience, and the pursuit of a vision. In this first episode, Brian shares part of his story that has never been shared before, and while heart wrenching, Brian and his story are a source of grit and inspiration.
Joe LaFratta will tell you that he ‘fell into’ what became his specialty during his 30-year career as a United States Probation Officer. To hear his story, there is no doubt that he made a difference in many lives, while navigating a subject that for most, is difficult at best. Although retired, Joe continues his work through his mentorship with the organization, Recovery Works, and consulting with those State and Federal courts and organizations who need his years of expertise. With 2.9 million people in the U.S. on overall probation, Joe’s career history and experience is highly regarded.
Craig Stevens may be a Landscape Architect with a thriving business but he also stands outside his story and unashamedly admits to a 20-plus-year struggle to overcome drugs and alcohol. One of the secrets to his success is that he only hires formerly incarcerated or those in recovery. Having like-minded employees allows him to not only give back for all those people who lifted him up when he was down but also to help those who are in need of a livelihood and not afraid to get their hands dirty, literally!
How many times has someone said, ‘I did the best I could with what I had…it’s not like I had a parent manual to follow’. But, in actuality, there is a manual. Since its publication in 1988, A Nurturing Father’s Journal/Workbook by Mark Perlman, has been adopted by jails and prisons across the U.S. These workbooks are the basis for a 12-week Nurturing Father’s program that is taught by certified trainers to both incarcerated men and those men in aftercare, finding their way back into the community and a new life. The Nurturing Father’s program is entirely voluntary, but many men who attend the program while incarcerated, attend a second time, once released from jail. As Mark Perlman writes, “we are not condemned to repeat our father’s mistakes, we can choose to be the father we want to be”.
To understand the healing and opportunity behind the wall in the Franklin County Jail in Massachusetts, one must only sit with those who are serving time despite their confinement. The Franklin County Jail may be a rural jail, but the programs for the incarcerated men and women, whether they be serving short- or long-term sentences, offer many stability, connection and a pathway to a brighter future when they return to the community. It takes a village of compassionate and educated individuals to ensure that the various programs within the jail are offered to the incarcerated population based on the needs of the incarcerated individual to assist in their recovery and forward movement before reentering the community.
The quote “To the world you may be one person; but to one person you may be the world” could not be truer than for the Executive Director of the Easthampton, Massachusetts Community Center, Robin Bialecki. Not only does Robin and her team help 3600 families a month with food and clothing, but she also provides for the children of incarcerated men at the Hampshire County Sheriff’s Office. A definite role model for any community around the world. And staying with the theme of children and giving, Sheriff Patrick Cahillane, of Hampshire County, was awarded the Paul Cellucci Award from the Children’s Trust of Boston, Massachusetts, for his team’s work, both behind the wall and in the community through their Nurturing Fathers Program.
The Dalai Lama defines compassions as “a sensitivity to the suffering of others, with a commitment to do something about it”. Cheri Garcia, a social innovator and Founder of the second chance staffing firm, Cornbread Hustle, knows all too well about addiction, recovery and the challenges those with a record face upon re-entering society. Cheri’s trajectory to launch Cornbread Hustle, and become recognized as a leader in second chance recruiting and staffing was definitely not a straight line, and although now a seven figure company, Cheri says she still has her bad days, but she is always driven to help more people because as she says, “…One can’t find their future success with $50 and a bus fare upon reentering society….”
The percentage of women incarcerated is minute in comparison to that of men, but their struggles to overcome the traumas that led them to drug addiction, anger or alcoholism is equal if not greater than the same wounds of their male counterparts. Meet Ashley and Sarah, one is still behind the wall in the pre-trial treatment unit and the other is now post release and working to create the new life of becoming sober. Both their journeys share a common thread, the determination not to slip back into their old ways of life.
As a prelude to the upcoming Episode 33, we thought we'd re-air an interview we featured a few months back to set the stage for that future episode. Twenty million Americans struggle with alcohol. For Melissa, it was a triple threat - alcohol, drugs, and anger. From the very young age of 11 till her 37th birthday, Melissa led the worst side of hustling to keep her addictions and adrenaline fed. In her own words, she describes the constant ‘skid bid’ as she calls it, how the tribe she surrounded herself with was literally loving her to death. and how she finally found a way out.
Back at Episode 26, Ed Hayes and Levin Schwartz of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office in Western Massachusetts stopped by to share some snippets of their work behind the wall, their travels and education of best practices to states and counties that are not as forward moving as Franklin County, and the factual research behind the high levels of incarceration. With much left on the table, Ed and Levin return to continue the conversation and discuss the upcoming Federal Medicaid that will be available to incarcerated individuals in 14 states starting in 2025.
You might not think incarceration and entrepreneurship have a common thread, but they do. Many who become incarcerated were arrested for illegal activities, for which, an entrepreneurial mindset was part of their ill begotten success. Even once behind the wall, many continue with their nefarious activities. Eli was just such a person, and thus was put on 24/7 house arrest to attempt to curb his entrepreneurial ways. But Eli has the entrepreneurial gene, initially ignited by candy sales in grade school, and as Eli himself says, ‘with all that time locked inside at home, I had to find something to keep busy and make money…’. It was there and then that Eli created Filthy Kicks and with the help of Social Entrepreneur, Max, his entrepreneurial cohort, Greenspace, and Eli’s very supportive attorney named Kevin, Eli’s business idea and hard work has changed the trajectory of Eli’s life.
It may not be commonplace to find vocational training behind the wall, but more and more jails and prisons are bringing a variety of industries, inside, not only to generate revenue, but also to offer training to those who are incarcerated, so they have better opportunities for jobs upon returning to the community. From culinary to welding, and building trades to sewing, local jails, like the Hampden County jail, created York Street Industries to not only train the revolving, selected few who want to make the best of their time behind the wall, but also create items that are used within the jail or commissioned from local companies within the community.
‘To be a transformational leader and coach, you must deeply understand what you are transforming’. This quote by an unknown author was perfectly suited to this week’s conversation with a District Attorney in Western Mass who has two counties, 47 towns, six Courts, and a myriad of worker bees under his care. With more than 33 years of public service, DA David Sullivan is changing the prosecution model by blending smart, and fair prosecutions, crime prevention programs, law enforcement partnerships, and community collaborations to build safer communities within his jurisdiction, and that includes keeping juveniles (17 and Under) from carrying a record with them.
NOTE: TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES PREVENTED THE AIRING OF A NEW SHOW THIS WEEK, SO ACCEPT OUR APOLOGIES AND ENJOY A FLASHBACK TO ONE OF THE HUSTLER FILES MORE POPULAR SHOWS! WE’LL BE BACK WITH A NEW EPISODE FOR SHOW #28 NEXT WEEK!
Bruce Willis, THE Actor, has a quote, ‘You Can’t Undo The Past, But You Can Certainly Not Repeat It’. Many people residing behind the wall have experienced disciplinary issues in their past. A mindfulness program developed at the Hampden County Sheriff’s Office, by program manager Dan Cavanaugh, in 2019, is experiencing dramatic results for those participants who are currently incarcerated. The program, aptly named, S.A.V.R., Stress, Anger, Violence Reduction, not only teaches meditation and mindful behavior but addresses topics like anger management, cognitive-behavioral therapy skills, parenting, and domestic violence.
Criminal Justice and Prison Reform may vary from State to State, but for those who understand that trauma is at the core of most incarcerated individuals, the key goal to their success, both behind the wall and upon returning to society, is to keep moving forward. Sadly, not all jails and prisons consider the value of moving incarcerated individuals forward. Thanks to researchers and change makers like Ed Hayes and Levin Schwartz, best practices and improved treatment of incarcerated individuals are being shared and implemented.
Keron McHugh may have seemed like just another black-market bad boy when the Feds arrested him in 2010, but they never could have guessed that incarceration would actually be the change that Keron needed to find in himself. In his seven years behind the wall, Keron not only read over 1,000 books (to self-educate) but was encouraged by his cell-mates to pursue the art of tattooing with only the rawest of materials available, due to his incredible ability to not just draw, but create breathtaking artwork. That trajectory gave Keron the grit he needed to sketch out his future as he served out his time, and followed Keron through his release from prison in 2017 and into what is now, an extremely successful skin art business in Mebane, North Carolina, The Cardinal Skin Art and Gallery.
In 2010, Venture Capitalist, Chris Redlitz spoke to incarcerated men at the infamous San Quentin Prison. That visit inspired him to launch a technical program, for those incarcerated, that would disrupt the incarceration cycle and offer certifications in coding to enable those returning to society the opportunity to find employment. The Last Mile technical program is now offered in 21 classrooms across 7 State prisons and has assisted 467 returning citizens in successful re-entry. Molly and Kevin Kelly are two of those returned citizens who now work for The Last Mile as Returned Citizen Advocates and along that journey they also found love.
When a house of corrections is located in a rural, farming area, it’s a no-brainer to include a gardening program in the vocational and educational offerings to those incarcerated. The ‘students’ of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office get both classroom, and hands-on exposure to Gardening, Herbalism, and Nutrition Classes to increase collaboration skills and decrease stress. There is a level of therapy that growing and sharing food offers, including future opportunities in the agricultural industry once they are released. Of course, there are other vocational programs too, and work-release opportunities for those close to release, hoping to find a path once they have fulfilled their time served.
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In this EXTRA episode of The Hustler Files, Creator/Host Lisa Reilly has the opportunity to share how The Hustler Files came to be and why it’s such a passion project.
The Franklin County, Massachusetts, Opioid Task Force has come a long way since its inception in 2011. Across a 30-town region in rural Western Mass, the Opioid Task Force is a 400-member entity working to address the impact of the Opioid epidemic. While this Task Force is involved with social policy work around the Opioid crisis, it is their focus to support prevention, intervention, treatment, and recovery efforts.
The opinion of this week's guests, based on their daily hands-on experience, is that addiction in the United States is sadly becoming the norm. The good news is that if you live in an area that is pro-recovery then you’re more likely to locate state or federally-funded programs like the Medication for Opioid Use Disorder Services that are inside the Hampshire County Jail in Northampton, Massachusetts, where incarcerated individuals are treated for their addiction by a team of certified medical professionals. As Dr. Katie, the head of the MOUD in-jail program, in this week's episode states, ‘….if someone has Diabetes we don’t ask how long they will need to be on medication…we know it’s a forever treatment….the same should be the norm for those who are suffering from drug or alcohol addiction…’. As this week's topic relays, recovery is something that doesn’t get a day off, ever.
Bruce Willis, the Actor, has a quote, ‘You Can’t Undo The Past, But You Can Certainly Not Repeat It’. Many people residing behind the wall have experienced disciplinary issues in the past. A mindfulness program developed at the Hampden County Sheriff’s Office, by program manager Dan Cavanaugh, in 2019, is experiencing dramatic results for those participants who are currently incarcerated. The program, aptly named, S.A.V.R., Stress, Anger, Violence Reduction, not only teaches meditation and mindful behavior but addresses topics like anger management, cognitive-behavioral therapy skills, parenting, and domestic violence.
Finding the possibilities in life, after incarceration, and with a forever criminal record, is a daunting task, but since 2004 when Jacqueline Velez was released from the women’s section of Rikers Island, her mission has been driven by the love for her daughter, a passion for sharing her experiences through her poetry, and the courage to become a voice for so many others who have faced similar obstacles.
In the United States, one in five children has had a parent incarcerated at some point, and more than 75% of children who have had a parent incarcerated, have themselves become incarcerated. John F. Kennedy said, “We are not here to cure the darkness, but to light the candle that can guide us through that darkness to a safe and sane future”. This episode is emotionally riveting, not just because the woman sharing her story has both of her parent’s incarcerated for war crimes in Senegal and Rwanda, but because of the abuse she sustained as a victim, because of her parent's circumstances. It is a journey of epic proportions that brings her to a place where, with the support of a village, she can share her story.
The title of this week's episode is part of a quote by the late Steve Jobs. The full quote says; “Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work, and the only way to do great work is to love what you do.” While it may take a village, behind the wall and beyond, to assist justice-involved individuals with recovery and re-entry back into society, it also takes a handful of extraordinary facilitators who have dedicated their lives to their secondary education and ensuing certifications, combined with a myriad of experience, to be a changemaker in the criminal justice system.
The criminal justice system is in a recruitment crisis. Correction Officers (yes, those uniformed individuals who work inside the local, State, and Federal Prisons and have military titles such as Captain, Corporal, etc.) are retiring faster than new COs can be recruited to replace them. Considering that the intake of justice-involved individuals has barely slowed down, this puts the recruiting efforts of the system in crisis. Like with any career path, the more informed people are about what a career path as a CO encompasses, the better chance that local jails and State and Federal prisons will have in recruiting new hires.
Author May Sarton wrote, ‘the only way through pain is to go through it, to absorb, probe, understand exactly what it is and what it means….whichever form our writing takes, it has the power to heal us and to help us grow’. In Western Mass, the non-profit, Voices From Inside, has been helping women who are currently or formerly incarcerated find their voices through creative writing workshops. Originally founded by the now-deceased Pat Schneider, VFI participants receive encouragement and support for their writing and gain self-confidence as they strengthen their literacy and communication skills, and being to imagine new possibilities for themselves.
E-12 - EVEN IN HER DARKEST HOUR
Twenty million Americans struggle with alcohol. For Melissa, it was a triple threat - alcohol, drugs, and anger. From the very young age of 11 till her 37th birthday, Melissa led the worst side of hustling to keep her addictions and adrenaline fed. In her own words, she describes the constant ‘skid bid’ as she calls it, how the tribe she surrounded herself with was literally loving her to death. and how she finally found a way out.
Author Jeff Korzenik’s day job as a Chief Investment Strategist at one of the largest commercial banks in the U.S. led him to take a deep dive into the realm of the social issues that have been plaguing workforce growth for the better part of two decades. The solution, as he sees it, is to educate CEOs on the value of hiring and training the 19 million who have served time behind the wall or the millions more who have misdemeanors on their records. Untapped Talent provides both the data and the emotion as to why the U.S. workforce has diminished, strategic checkmarks on how it can be changed and, examples of those companies who became successful second-chance hiring employers.
“To be a unifying person, you must have acceptance. It is a social responsibility for those who are better educated to give back some to the society in whatever service they can help.” - Tan Cheng Bock. There are just some people who have an inherent calling to volunteer. Marty Lynch, Education Director at the non-profit Cambridge Credit Counseling is one such person. Marty has spent the better part of almost 20 years volunteering his time to offer financial education to pre and post-incarcerated individuals as well as those still serving out their time. While most of Marty’s volunteering is with the Women’s Correctional Center in Chicopee, Massachusetts, Marty does, on occasion, heed the call to the Federal Courts in Connecticut to assist with the financial education of Parolees and even sometimes the court clerks themselves!
“There will always be rocks in the road ahead of us. They will be stumbling blocks or stepping stones; it all depends on how you use them.” - Friedrich Nietzsche. ROCA means ROCK and for 35 years they have been a relentless force for 17-24 year olds who have grown up with the stumbling blocks of urban violence and offered stepping stones to disrupt incarceration, poverty, and racism. Through their intervention model of CBT, Cognitive Behavioral Theory, they teach these young people life-saving emotional skills that address their trauma, find hope and drive change. ROCA is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, with additional sites in Springfield and Holyoke, MA, Hartford, CT, and Baltimore, Maryland. A recent CBS Sunday Morning feature shares a glimpse into ROCA Baltimore and the value of ROCA, who’s motto is, ‘we’re in your world, we see the challenges you face’. https://www.cbsnews.com/video/in-baltimore-changing-minds-and-saving-lives/
“When we take the responsibility for cultivating our true self, we break the ties that bind us to the illusions of who and what we falsely think we are.” In part 1 of the interviews with incarcerated individuals finishing up their sentences in the Bridge to the Future House in Hampshire County, Massachusetts, you met Dakota, Matt, Sonny, and Eric. In part 2, Eric speaks of how his alcoholism is tied to his self-esteem and self-love, but also how his ability to change is tied to having something bigger than himself to connect to. Future careers, after their time behind the wall, are shared as are their final words of wisdom. Advice hard won.
“Your mind and habits will create either barriers or bridges to a better future” - Dr. Al Siebert. While re-entry programs, 2nd chance hiring, education, and halfway houses are known to lower recidivism rates, it is still, sadly, not the norm. If there is an upside to being jailed in Hampshire County, Massachusetts, it is their 16-bed halfway house with community-based programming and educational opportunities called, most appropriately, The Bridge to the Future House. In part 1 of this two-part story, on location, in the kitchen at the house, incarcerated individuals, Dakota, Matt, Sonny, and Eric, share the stories of what put them behind the wall, and the steps they are taking to become better citizens, parents, and people once they have served their time.
The word Partake means ‘to consume’ and for those who become incarcerated, having lost everything will when given the opportunity for educational pursuits, be like sponges, ready and willing to participate as education returns them back some of their dignity. At Partakers dot Org, a College Behind Bars degree program through Boston College, Emerson, and Tufts University, and most recently the Partakers Empowerment Program (PEP) in association with Brandeis University has for 25 years, within the State of Massachusetts, offering higher education and community mentoring for re-entry, to bridge the divide between those inside and outside of prison and assist with reducing recidivism.
Not all heroes wear capes, and masks and carry a shield, but at Meredith Springfield, a Ludlow Massachusetts manufacturing facility for Fortune 100 companies, Owner Mel O’Leary has spent twenty years as a 2nd chance employer! In his relationship with the Hampden County Sheriff’s Department, Mel has not only employed a few hundred formerly incarcerated but approximately one-third of those 2nd chance hires have continued to stay on with him and some have even moved into management positions. Joining Mel in the conversation is Luis, an ex-offender for drug conspiracy, who entered Federal prison at the age of 18 and stayed incarcerated for six years. As with all the Meredith Springfield 2nd chance hires, Luis was given the opportunity to work for Mel while finishing up his sentence in the Hampden re-entry program. Listen in to find out how Mel’s 2nd chance hiring has not been in vain.
When Judy Issacson Elias launched the Heroes To Heroes organization in 2010 to help War Zone Veterans who had suffered moral injury she couldn’t have imagined that almost 13 years later she, her staff, and her volunteers would have positively impacted 350 veterans and have 750 on a waiting list to join her 18-month program that includes a 10-day biblical journey of faith, to Israel. Seventeen veterans commit suicide every day in the United States and Judy says that to impact veterans suffering from moral injury, is at the core, all about faith.
In days of old the local Sheriff would protect the town and lock up the ‘bad guys’ until the Circuit Judge showed up for a trial and a sentencing. There were no ‘reentry’ programs, support services or opportunities to redeem oneself. Modern times, in most cases has changed the thought process around reform and reentry and thankfully people like Sheriff Patrick J. Cahillane of the Hampshire County Sheriff’s Department believe that the offerings of resources, such as housing, for those he calls ‘de-incarcerated’ are not only needed but life-changing to prevent recidivism.
Most of humanity has experienced a ‘worst moment’ in life. If you’re Behind The Wall, other than a rare few, in that your worst moment, you broke the law. Business Strategist, Author and Advocate for Second Chance Hiring Jeffrey Korzenik says, “Whether through resources available in your facility or available after your release, demonstrate that you are not defined by your worst moment”. This is the case of former inmate Gabriel Santiago who took advantage of the resources and connections available after his re-entry back into society, and with the help of Mark Mitchell, the AISS Mentorship Program Coordinator, Gabe is now an AISS Volunteer Mentor and a Care Coordinator at the Stonybrook Stabilization & Treatment Center,(STCC).
Whether you’re getting ready to re-enter the world post-incarceration or you’re on probation or parole or you are just struggling with drugs, employment, housing, and more, the All-Inclusive Support Services Program is ready and available to help! AISS is a division of the Hampden County Sheriff’s Office, and they provide access to individualized services no matter what level of help you need, AND they were the first full-service reentry program in the U.S., launching in 1996! Of course, there is SO much more at AISS than could be covered in this episode so paste this link in your browser - http://hcsdma.org/aiss-3/ for more information.
In this final episode of Season One, the focus is on the white collar executive mentor. While a rare breed to former offenders, it is certainly a most needed one, as you’ll hear from Tim O’Rourke, mentor, advisor, teacher, and friend to this universe of future entrepreneurs whose re-entry into society has at times, more bars than from whence they came.
In this 2nd to the last episode of our inaugural season, we circle back with La’Kia Young. She’s still hustling and putting the pieces of her life back together, but she hasn't quit. By keeping her feet on the ground while she looks to the stars, her personal and professional journey to be a productive citizen and an entrepreneur is still unfolding, and we’re still rooting for Kia and the success we know she deserves.
Peter Drucker said, "the best way to predict the future is to create it". Keron started creating his future the minute he arrived in prison. Over seven years he read close to 1000 books, books that would prepare him for a successful future as an entrepreneur and productive citizen. But creating one's future is never ending and Keron, now an effective executive, and business owner continues to self- educate with some help from the father of modern management, an unlikely but successful pairing.
Choice - right vs. wrong, left vs. right, up vs. down, in vs. out, today vs. tomorrow. Sounds easy, but for many with a criminal background, it wasn't, until one day, along their redemptive path, making a choice, chooses them.
There's a saying, 'you don't know what you don't know' so in this bonus episode of The Hustler Files we'll take you back to the beginning of how it all started and perhaps you'll be inspired to start your own podcast about something you're passionate about.
For Keron, he has planned his freedom with precise detail and no intention of ever returning to prison. But as he did behind bars, is his decisive strategy, and targeted execution enough to put his dreams into motion? or does he need some divine intervention?
To follow protagonist Keron McHugh forward, you must first understand from whence he came. His journey is not without a range of family, friends, and foe, such as antagonist Scott Sherrill, but it's deep within their parallel lives that the emotion and drama of prison life and freedom sets the stage for an outcome that's truer than fiction.
The journey of hustler Keron McHugh continues. Still behind bars faith and serendipity are playing a role in his present and future, providing Keron not only a new entrepreneurial pursuit but people to champion him once he is back in the free world.
2018 is going to be a very exciting year at The Hustler Files! Before we continue on with the journeys of Keron and Kia we want to share a snapshot of the opportunities and programs that are available within this season's featured state of North Carolina. While every state is different, North Carolina is more progressive than most, so if you're an inmate who will one day be released or an ex-offender, you've got a better shot at being a productive citizen and leading a successful life.
In this episode we turn our attention to Kia. Her full name is La’Kia Young and she could be anyone, anywhere with a past paved in rubble. Her road of trials is not an easy one to hear, nor for her to share. She may or may not be on a hero’s journey, but as you listen to Kia, we hope you hear her words, understand her pain and have some compassion for her actions.
Travel with us to North Carolina and meet our Hustler, Keron McHugh!
Keron's past is what has taken him from ex-offender to entrepreneur but his past is not for the faint of heart and in this first episode you'll find out about his life behind bars and the rules of engagement when you're a leader there.
Join us and remember, journeys don't have a timeline, life purposes aren't always apparent and FAILURE IS NOT FINAL!
The Hustler Files is stories set around ex-offenders and their second chances as they strive to pursue entrepreneurship, be productive citizens and prove that failure isn't final.