What is the Church To Do?: Recent Episodes
Janay Pasha
What is the church to do is a podcast where we talk about how the church can do a better job addressing racial and social injustice. We do this by asking our guests "what is the church to do?" Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/whatisthechurchtodo/support
Today we have my friend Jonee Ripperger. She has quickly become a friend and ally in this work. She is a wife, artist, photographer, worship leader, animal lover, and a wonderful example of what it looks like to love your neighbor. Jonee and I have had the pleasure of doing some “Be The Bridge” work together, and it’s been an honor to work with her and see her heart. Which is why I am beyond excited to have her on today! Enjoy as Jonee shares what she's learned through Be The Bridge, the impact its had on her life, and what she wants others to know. 1. The church must acknowledge that racism exists. 2. We must admit that we have been implicit. 3. We must Lament. 4. We must educate through multiple resources. Spotlight I'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing Brown https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781524760854 Be the Bridge: Pursuing God's Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha Morrison https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525652885 Unlocking Us Podcast Hosted by Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/unlockingus/
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Melissa and I sit down to have a follow up conversation from our podcast a few weeks ago. We hit on quite a few topics, but we're offering a book club with the book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo. If you're interested in participating in a 12 week reading of the book. Email me at whatisthechurchtodo@gmail.com
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Today we have Amy Duesing. Amy is a wife, mom, advocate, ally, educator and that’s just a few of the things. Listen in as we hear about how journey towards becoming anti-racist. What she's learned and how she got here. Enjoy!
Spotlight
“Always with Us?: What Jesus Really Said about the Poor” by Reverend Liz Theoharis Foreword by William Barberhttps://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780802875020
Lead Stories Podcast with Jo Saxton and Pastor Steph O’Brienhttps://leadstoriespodcast.com/
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Today we have Barbie Fischer. She is someone I’ve admired for years. We met 20 years ago in a youth group and I’ve admired her from afar since then. She has worked with countless non-profits always with the goal of seeking justice, peace building, and directing communities to focus towards oppression and overcoming it. I’m a fan of having people that are well versed in both social and Biblical justice, and this one takes the cake! Love you girl so great to have you on. She also the executive director at Restorative Encounter https://www.restorativeencounters.org/
Spotlight
The Awe and the Awful: Poetry Compilation by Charles Lattimore Howardhttps://www.amazon.com/Awe-Awful-Poetry-Compilation/dp/1482763842/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544037595&sr=8-1&keywords=charles+lattimore+howard+the+awe
Solidarity and Defiant Spirituality: Africana Lessons on Religion, Racism, and Ending Gender Violence by Traci C. Westhttps://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781479833993
A Garden of Black Joy: Global Poetry from the Edges of Liberation and Living by Keno Evolhttps://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9781634893107
So You Want to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluohttps://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781580058827
Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor by Layla Saadhttps://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781728209807
The Source of Self-Regard: Selected Essays, Speeches, and Meditations by Toni Morrisonhttps://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525562795
How to be Anti Racist by Ibram X. Kendihttps://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780525509288
Quotes
"Justice is Healing" Barbie Fischer
"Church is a place that doesn't welcome questions or those hurting" Barbie Fischer
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Melissa Licali is many things! Shes a mother, grandmother, advocate and an ally among many things. Listen in as we chat about the book "White Fragility" by Robin DiAngelo, among many other topics. Melissa grew up in a Louisiana, is a passionate about racial reconciliation, and advocating for the oppressed.
Spotlight
"What Fragility" Robin DiAngelo
https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780807047415
"How to be an Anti Racist" - Kendi X Ibram
https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9780525509288
"The Danger of a Single Story" - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_ngozi_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story
"Between the world and Me" -TaNehisi Coates
https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780812993547
"The Cross And The Lynching Tree" - James H. Cone
https://www.thedockbookshop.com/book/9781626980051
"The Big Leap" - Gay Hendricks
https://www.kizzysbooksandmore.com/book/9780061735363
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I sit down with my childhood friend Samantha Thomas to talk about her experiences, and what she sees that the church can do.
Follow Samantha on Instagram @sammm1187
Spotlight Links
Evolving Faith Podcast
https://evolvingfaith.com/podcast
People to follow on Instagram
@loswhit
@privtoprog
@anthonygarcy
@cooper0326
Books
Be The Bridge -Latasha Morrison
White Fragility - Robin DiAngelo
United States Constitution
Stamped From The Beginning - Ibram X. Kendi
How to be an Antiracist - Ibram X. Kendi
Youtube Channels
Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man -Emmanuel Acho
What is The Church to Do? -Evangelist Janay Pasha
Movies
Hamilton (watch with subtitles, and research)
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This episode was recorded live on Facebook. I talk about my experience in white evangelical circles over the last 20 years. Things I've learned, seen, heard and how those things have impacted me. I give some ideas on how to answer the question "what is the church to do"?.
Spotlight
White Awake by Daniel Hill
https://www.amazon.com/White-Awake-Honest-Look-Means/dp/0830843930/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=white+awake&qid=1599020483&sr=8-3
Resources Brought up during podcast
Phil Vischer Video
https://www.facebook.com/202984496470817/videos/2611898429058130/
https://www.facebook.com/202984496470817/videos/228979665078478
Emmanuel Acho - Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black man
https://www.youtube.com/user/Eacho18
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Mr. Demetrius Hunter is a man of many talents, husband, father, pastor, church planter, podcast host, Be The Bridge facilitator, community advocate and he has a degree in social work. It's always a privilege to sit down with a like minded soul. We discuss his experience as someone who came in Christ as a young adult, what he's learned and his opinion on ways we can do a better job of being the church Christ has called us to be. Check out his podcast "I am Justice" https://iamjustice.captivate.fm/
SPOTLIGHT
I am Justice -Demetrius Hunter
https://iamjustice.captivate.fm/
Be the Bridge - Latasha Morrison
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/be-the-bridge-podcast-with-latasha-morrison/id1497999509
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I got to interview Jon Polk. As many White Americans do, he grew up pretty unaware of his whiteness. During this interview we talk about, how it came to recognize his biases, some of his personal experiences and what he believes the church can do about it.
"We must decenter whiteness" - Jon Polk
"We're making God in our own image, instead of us being made in His" -Jon Polk
SPOTLIGHT
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/melanated-faith/id1483872645
The Third Option by Miles McPherson
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38532169-the-third-option
Evangelist Janay Pasha, her husband and their 3 children live in Michigan. She has a degree in Church Planting and Evangelism, and a commitment to making the church look more like Jesus.
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I sat down with one of my dearest friends Ammi-El Rich. If I'm being honest this episode was very similar to some of the conversations I've been having recently with people of color. To say that this has been a difficult time for BIPOC would be a gross understatement. We talk about our experiences, how those things have shaped our walk with Christ and What the Church can do to stand with BIPOC, both now and in the future.
Spotlight Links
Podcasts
- 1619
https://art19.com/shows/1619 * The Red Couch Podcast with Propaganda and Alma
https://redcouchpodcast.podbean.com/ * Revisionist History
http://revisionisthistory.com/
- Dope Black Social Worker
https://www.instagram.com/dopeblack_socialworker/?hl=en
Books
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One Crazy Summer by Rita Williams-Garcia
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https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6609764-one-crazy-summer
- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16240734-p-s-be-eleven
- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22836574-gone-crazy-in-alabama
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I sat down (via zoom) with my friend of over 20 years and chatted about what the church can do. As he is in an area that lacks diversity we discuss what churches like his can do to stand with the oppressed and not the oppressor. Enjoy!!
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This has been one of my favorite episodes to record. Tiffany Thorpe is many things, but I'm beyond grateful to call her my friend. Listen in as we talk about our experiences, what we've learned, and what we believe the Church can do to give Jesus what He paid for!
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Come listen in as I have a conversation with someone I've known for 20 years. Such a great conversation!
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Listen in as I sit down with my childhood friend Chris. We get to hear his perspective on racial injustice as someone who grew up in the our hometown of Flint MI.
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Listen in as I talk with my friend Brooke Collins, about What the Church can do about racial injustice!
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I sit down with my college friend Pastor Reggie Lenzy. We talk about what the church needs to do to give Jesus what He paid for on the cross!
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On this episode I sit down with my first guest, my brother and friend Jon-Michael Martin. Listen in as we talk about how the church can start to address injustice!
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