Not Another True Crime Podcast: Recent Episodes

Betches Media

Betches Media presents a podcast for people who love all types of sketchy things—from cults to conspiracy theories to, of course, crime—with a healthy dose of irreverent humor. Your co-hosts, Sara Levine, and Danny Murphy give the lowdown on one morbidly fascinating topic per episode. They’ll present the facts of each case, punctuated with jokes and side tangents, along with their own personal theories.

This week, Sara and Danny cover the bizarre catfishing case where a romance scammer posed as Stranger Things actor Darce Montgomery to get thousands of dollars in gift cards. Then, a Miami realtor is serving time for misuse of Covid relief funds. And finally, Ghislane Maxwell has suddenly decided to connect with her late father's Jewish faith, presumably to get better food and time off on the Sabbath. RESOURCES: https://nypost.com/2023/08/16/kentucky-woman-mckayla-catfished-out-of-10k-by-scammer-posing-as-stranger-things-dacre-montgomery/ https://people.com/real-estate-broker-who-misused-covid-relief-funds-jailed-for-3-5-years-7724766 https://www.the-sun.com/news/8775674/ghislaine-maxwell-prison-benefits-embracing-jewish-religion/

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This week, Danny covers the ongoing legal drama between Michael Oher, and the Tuohy family, best known for their portrayal in the 2009 film The Blind Side (based on a book of the same name). Michael is suing the Tuohys, alleging that they lied about adopting him, and in fact placed him under a conservatorship instead, which cheated him out of millions of dollars while they continue to profit off of him. Danny gets into the lawsuit, the Tuohy family's lavish life, and where this is all heading. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back with a rundown of some current scams that we all need to be on alert for. First up, people posing as Bank Of America fraud department employees are tricking customers into transferring them money via Zelle. Next is a Florida woman who conned an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor out of $2.8 million. Then, a fake romance crypto scam that began over Hinge and ending with something horrifically called "pig butchering." Finally, what happens when you hire someone to solve your scam... only for the investigator to be a scammer themself? And to wrap up the show, an update on Sarma Melngailis aka The Bad Vegan.

RESOURCES: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/28/florida-woman-romance-scam-jailed https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/florida-woman-pleads-guilty-defrauding-holocaust-survivor-28-million-connection-romance https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tech-executive-falls-victim-450k-190411822.html https://uk.news.yahoo.com/private-investigator-preyed-dating-scam-113900495.html

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This week, Sara and Danny cover Leah Remini's new harassment and defamation lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. Then, they get into some international elder scams: First, a 73-year-old New York grandmother named Jean, who outsmarted a scammer posing as her grandson. Then, police in Thailand take down an international operation that cheated the elderly out of $87 million. And finally, Japan's projected plan to put an end to elder scams once and for all... by taking away their bank cards. RESOURCES: https://variety.com/2023/film/news/leah-remini-sues-church-of-scientology-1235686180/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/24/elder-scam-grandma-long-island/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/thai-police-bust-call-scammers-swindled-older-americans-rcna76271 https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/people/article/3229623/japan-plans-combat-phone-scams-taking-elderlys-bank-cards-away-people-are-going-panic

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Sara and Danny are joined by intellectual property entertainment lawyer Joshua Greenberg, who explains the Shien lawsuit and what actually constitutes copyright infringement. They also discuss the potential problems that may arise with Elon's X-branded Twitter pivot. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara & Danny are back with a conman from New York history, Ferdinand Ward, who earned himself a reputation worthy of the nickname "Young Napoleon of Finance" - and eventually, the "Best-Hated Man" in the country. Sara and Danny dive into his early scams and how he leveled up into a bank-collapsing Ponzi scheme that landed him in Sing Sing - but that still wasn't the end of his misdeeds. RESOURCES: https://moneyweek.com/economy/people/601293/great-frauds-in-history-the-downfall-of-ferdinand-ward-the-napoleon-of https://archives.nypl.org/mss/22284 A Disposition to Be Rich: Ferdinand Ward, the Greatest Swindler of the Gilded Age by Geoffrey Ward “Read all about Geneseo’s dirty rotten scoundrel” - Livingston County News https://www.brooklynpaper.com/family-guile-historian-discusses-his-criminal-ancestor/

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This week, Sara and Danny cover Cassie Chadwick, aka Betty Bigley, aka Madam Marie Rosa, aka Madame Lydia Devere - a scammer with an unbelievable track record of defrauding banks and millionaires. They get into her many crimes and identities and the immense amount of money she got away with swindling, all the way to her ultimate demise. RESOURCES: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-high-priestess-of-fraudulent-finance-45/ Crime in Cleveland Cassie Chadwick: The Con Artist of Millionaires’ Row CLEVELAND: THE BEST KEPT SECRET by George E. Condon

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Sara and Danny cover a still-unsolved mass murder from 1912, where a family of six and two guests were bludgeoned to death in their Villisca, Iowa home. They get into the events leading up to the murders, the investigation, and the three major suspects - one of whom may have been a serial killer. RESOURCES: https://www.villiscaiowa.com/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2022/06/09/1912-villisca-ax-murders-what-to-know-iowa-cold-case/7567590001/ https://iowacoldcases.org/case-summaries/villisca-axe-murders/ http://iagenweb.org/boards/montgomery/documents/index.cgi?read=114416 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ax-murderer-who-got-away-117037374/

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Sara and Danny are joined by criminal defense attorney Jason Goldman, who shares his unique insight and perspective on the justice system, as well as some past and present high profile cases, including the Idaho murders, Natalie Holloway, Scott Peterson, and Adnan Syed. Jason explains why the alibi defense is his least favorite, what the biggest misconceptions people get from crime TV shows are, and the story behind how he chose to go into this area of law. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Sara and Danny are going back to the 1800s to cover C.L. Blood, a con man who posed as a doctor, and claimed that oxygenized air (aka nitrous oxide) could cure a whole slew of medical ailments. They get into all of Blood's shady associates, his trouble with the law, and how it all led to a botched blackmailing and a gruesome murder. RESOURCES: “A Wily Doctor: The Career of Charles L. Blood, Once of Boston” - The Boston Weekly Guide “A Man of Ominous Name”: The Inter Ocean “The Crime of Cain” San Francisco Call Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are joined by broadcast journalist and producer Charlie Webster, to talk all about her true crime podcast Scamanda. The 8 episode series details the story of Amanda Riley, who made headlines in 2022 for faking her cancer diagnosis and swindling donors out of more than $100k. Charlie shares how she got involved with this story, some of the wildest things that have come up in her investigation, and how Amanda managed to convince so many people of her lie. To close out the episode, they check in on the latest Anna Delvey update. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Sara and Danny give their recap and thoughts on the new Max docuseries The Curious Case Of Natalia Grace, which takes a closer look at a bizarre story that NATCP covered back in 2019! They get into the Barnett family and the strange events that unfolded starting from Natalia's adoption, to the suspicions about her age, police involvement, Natalia's birth family in Ukraine, and the child abandonment trial. The six available episodes show the Barnett's POV, with Natalia's side of the story dropping later this summer, so watch this space for NATCP's coverage! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny kick off the week with some updates on Elizabeth Holmes before diving into this week's case: The Germond House Murders. They take us back all the way to Thanksgiving in 1930, where a dairy farm in upstate New York was the setting for the murder of an entire family. They walk us through all the details of the case and give us some theories of what could've been the motive behind the murders, which to this day remains a mystery. To end the show, they play a few rounds of some good old fashioned Thanksgiving Day Trivia. RESOURCES: s://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-thanksgiving-eve-murders-20221119-skj6nxxqvndlddaeosnhc2isca-story.html https://modernfarmer.com/2017/10/death-dairy-farm-family-murdered-1930-still-unsolved/ https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/lori-vallow-trial-moves-forward-her-competency-restored

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Sara and Danny bring us the story of the murder of Ray McNeil at the hands of Sally McNeil, as covered in the recent documentary ‘Killer Sally’. They start off with some background info on the couple, and their involvement in bodybuilding culture. They also cover their turbulent marriage, which included multiple instances of domestic violence throughout the year. After that, the get into the event in question and the trial that followed it, including the evidence, or lack thereof, of Sally acting in self-defense. To the the show, they play a game called 'Ace In The Swole,' where they dive into the bodybuilding world as they try to explain some obscure workout exercises. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Sara and Danny are back to talk about the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, Italy’s most famous unsolved mystery. They get into the circumstances of Emanuela's disappearance after a flute lesson in 1983, and the numerous alleged sightings throughout the years. They also discuss various theory's behind her disappearance, which range from mafia involvement to the Church as the villain. To end the show, they play "Vati-can or Vati-can't," where they put their knowledge of Vatican City landmarks to the test. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back with a few updates on some stories everyone is talking about in the true crime world, this time touching on Casey Anthony, Ryan Murphy, and Elizabeth Holmes. As always, make sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with the latest! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back talk all about the new Netflix series The Watcher, based on a real story taking place in Westfield, New Jersey. They give some background on Derek and Maria Broaddus, who even before moving into their newly purchased home, began to receive threatening letters from an anonymous person calling themselves ‘The Watcher.’ Then, they talk about the series so far, and some differences between the fictionalized version of these events. To end the show, they play a game called “We Are They Ones Who Watch!,” where they try their best to remember some of the numerous true crime docs that have come out this year and when they were released. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back with the stranger-than-fiction story of Walburga Oesterreich, a German woman who settled in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. They talk about her background and what her life was like in the early 1900's, as well as the secret she was hiding in the attic through the years. They also cover the death of her husband, and the part she had to play in the whole endeavor. To end the show, they play a Halloween Themed trivia game, where they attempt to identify iconic horror movie quotes and answer some questions about them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back to discuss the multiple kidnappings of Jan Broberg by Robert Berchtold, which took place during the 70s in Idaho. They cover all the details of the story, and how Robert was able to gain the confidence of Jan's parents before kidnapping her multiple times. They also talk all about the recent drama series based on the story: what it got right, and where it missed the mark. RESOURCES: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jan-broberg-kidnapping-friend-of-family-peacock-b2197093.html https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/10/jan-broberg-bob-berchtold-real-life-a-friend-of-the-family

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Danny is back for a solo episode this week covering the murder of Kim Wall, a Swedish journalist who was killed in 2017 in Denmark. Danny talks us through the circumstances of her murder, and how Peter Madsen managed to lure her to his submarine Nautilus under the guise of an interview. He also gets into how the murder was discovered, and the investigation that followed it unfolded. Then, he wraps up by giving his thoughts on the recent Netflix documentary detailing the case. RESOURCES: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54018795 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40922750 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/09/danish-killer-peter-madsen-confesses-to-murder-of-kim-wall-for-first-time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back to break down the story of Larry Ray, who has been found guilty of running a sex cult at Sarah Lawrence University. They first go over the details of how Ray managed to recruit college students into an abusive cult through over a decade of abuse and manipulation. They also get into the recent Peacock documentary on the case and discuss what the doc got right, and where it misses the mark. To end the show, they are put to the test with a series of college-level questions to see if they are in face smarter than a college student! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny breakdown the recent Netflix true crime doc 'Sins of Our Mother,' which follows the terrifying story of Lori Vallow Daybell and her husband Chad Daybell, who have been accused of murdering two of her children. The give some background on the whole story and how it all happend before diving into some recent updates of the state of the trial, and how it might unfold once it happens. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Danny is back with Jorge to breakdown a fraudster that had an undeniable impact on pop culture in the 90's: Lou Perlman. They get into Lou's beginnings before launching bands massively successful such as Backstreet Boys and NSYNC, and how he went from one scam to another defrauding people from all walks of life one step at a time. The also talk about the barrage of suits he faced throughout his fraudulent career, and just how he managed to escape jail for so many years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back for a special bonus episode covering how "Serial" subject Adnand Syed was released from prison after his conviction was vacated (at least, for now) due to deficiencies found in how the prosecutors turned over their evidence to the defense attorneys 23 years ago. Follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all of these updates as they develop! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny take us back to the 1950’s to dive into a scandal that rocked the brand new world of Quiz Show TV. They follow the stories of Jack Barry and Dan Enright, and the lengths they went through to make their show Twenty-One interesting to watch, which ended up getting Congress involved. To end the show they play a very special edition of Jeopardy!, all centered around various true crime categories to see who knows their true crime trivia best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back to cover the case of Chris Dawson, an Australian rugby league footballer whose wife, Lynette Dawson, mysteriously disappeared from their family home. They go all the way back to the beginning of their relationship in Australia and set the scene before her disappearance, which included infidelity on Chris's part and reports of abuse. After that they get into the investigation that followed it which spanned decades, and which eventually came to a verdict a few weeks ago. RESOURCES https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/30/australia/australia-chris-dawson-wife-murder-verdict-intl-hnk https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/03/she-felt-she-could-trust-him-chris-dawson-trial-lays-bare-his-chilling-pursuit-of-teen-girl https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/05/world/australia/chris-dawson-arrest-teachers-pet.html The Teacher’s Pet https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-05/lyn-dawsons-family-will-never-forgive-chris-dawson-over-murder/101391012 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Sara and Danny cover OneTaste, an organization founded around their belief in the power of OM or orgasmic meditation. They dig into the group's controversial operations that caused an FBI investigation, which included reports of sex trafficking, prostitution, and manipulation all under the guise of sexual freedom and empowerment. They also talk about the organization's similarity to MLM's and how it took advantage of its clients and employees and left many in serious debt. RESOURCES: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-06-18/the-dark-side-of-onetaste-the-orgasmic-meditation-company https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/inside-hollywoods-orgasm-cult/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back to breakdown the story of the murder of Burt Templet, as well as the recent Netflix documentary on the case. They kick off the episode with some context on the circumstances of the murder before diving in to the events of the night. They also cover the aftermath of the murder, and the twist that made it all the more interesting. To wrap things off, they give their thoughts on the documentary itself. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with true crime news and suggest new cases to cover on the pod! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*Since the recording of this episode, an autopsy has confirmed that Kiley Rodni’s remains have been found in a car at Prosser Creek Reservoir. Sara and Danny are back for a special bonus episode covering some developing updates, this time on Kiely Rodni's disappearance in from a camp party in California as well as a newly released FBI report detailing Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's altercations throughout their marriage as their custody battles continues. Follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all of these updates as they develop! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Sara and Danny return to Zambia for another murder case . This time, they dive into the death of Bianca Rudolph by an alleged accidental firing of a hunting shotgun while on a hunting trip with her then husband, Larry Rudolph. They kick off with some background on the couple and Larry's dental business in Arizona for which he developed a reputation for shadiness and less-than-stellar bedside manner. They also get into the affair that might've been the reason for the murder, and how it all transpired when the couple took a hunting trip to Zambia, After that, they cover the trial that followed the events and how the court ruled recently as they decided the fate of Larry Rudolph. The end the episode putting their knowledge of Zambia to the test! RESOURCES: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bianca-larry-rudolph-murder-allegations-safari-dentist-1370972/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/02/us/larry-rudolph-dentist-found-guilty.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wife-of-pittsburgh-dentist-dies-from-fatal-gunshot-on-safari-was-it-an-accident-or-murder/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara and Danny are back this week to talk about Netflix’s documentary, ‘Girl in the Picture,’ the unimaginable story of Tonya Dawn Hughes’ kidnapping and murder. Tonya (aka Sharon Marshall aka Suzanne Sevakis) perished in the hospital after being found on the side of the road with severe head trauma. The story unravels from there—every time you think you get the picture, there’s another layer to the lie! And, what’s the deal with her father, fugitive Franklin Floyd? Or is it her husband? Wait, he pimped her out as a stripper? Wait, he's not even her father? He kidnapped her son? Confusing we know! Finally, Sara and Danny wrap things up with the game, Girl in the Moving Picture, where they’re asked to match women characters to the movies they appeared in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TW: This episode contains discussion and references to suicide. If you are thinking about suicide, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or the Suicide Crisis Line at 1-800-784-2433. Sara and Danny are back this week to talk all about Teal Swan, the focus of the recent documentary "The Deep End." They start off with Teal Swan's beginning and her claims of possessing extrasensory abilities, and how she made a name for herself through a series of youtube videos. Then they cover the cult-like group she's created and the controversial behavior that she's exhibited as their leader. They also get into the experiences of various previous members of the group and how they recall their time within it. RESOURCES: https://tealswan.com/about-teal/ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50478821 https://www.eonline.com/news/1335268/inside-the-deep-end-the-rise-of-teal-swan-and-her-controversial-completion-process-program https://tealswan.com/curveball/?fbclid=IwAR3fMKictajUdxFC1kQU-J002hK8YmWqL2NGdfBLKR13yRjnmJg1hsMvGGk https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/08/205915/the-gateway-teal-swan-youtube-cult-jennings-brown

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This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover the story of Delia Owens, the author of best-selling book turned movie Where The Crawdads Sing. They talk about Owens' involvement in battles against poachers in Zambia, which allegedly turned murderous in the 90's. They also talk about parallels that the book shares with the real life story, and Delia's family's connection to the events. To end the show, they test their knowledge on infamously poor book turned movies adaptations that missed the mark.

Sara and Danny are back for another round of updates, this time on the latest from the Murdagh Murders, Armie Hammer, and Casey White. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay u to date with all of these stories as they develop!

In this episode, Sara and Danny take it all the way back to eighth grade Social Studies and recount the story of the woman who started a Ponzi scheme before it was even a thing. Howe launched a ‘charity’ to help unmarried women (aka Unprotected Females aka millennial Girl Bosses) and got them to make small donations to help her Swanky Bank. Her #gatekeeping was so successful that male reporters literally couldn’t even get inside her building when her business endeavors got suspicious. Unfortunately she wasn’t a #womanhelpingwomen; when her clients demanded their money back, Howe couldn’t pay them back. Then, the NY Times claimed that women shouldn’t be trusted with money. But Howe was anything but stupid. Finally, Sara and Danny finish things off with some trivia: Sarah Howe did it happen?

Sara and Danny are here with a special bonus episode to talk about a few true crime topics hitting the headlines this week! They cover an Austin love triangle with a yoga teacher at the center of it, Jen Shah’s plea in her fraud case, and the verdict of the case agains Sunny Balwani, the former COO of Theranos. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date on all of these topics and more as they unfold! RESOURCES: https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/real-housewives-star-jennifer-shah-plead-guilty-fraud/story?id=86601509&cid=social_twitter_abcn https://people.com/crime/sunny-balwani-trial-conclusion/ https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/kaitlyn-armstrong-capture-costa-rica-details-released https://www.npr.org/2022/05/23/1100721218/cyclist-murder-moriah-wilson-kaitlin-armstrong

Sara and Danny are back to dive into a fundamentalist religion that has been linked to all manner of abuses and scandals: The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The get into the Church’s beginning as an offshoot of Mormonism and all the key players that had a hand in establishing it, including its current leader, Warren Jeffs. No cult is complete without crimes, and they discuss the crimes committed by Jeffs and other members of FLDS, how they were caught, and where the perpetrators are now. To end the show, they play a game of “LDS, or LSD?,” where they try to guess whether certain peculiar situations are either so-called miracles from various religions or acid trips from various pop culture media. RESOURCES: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/fundamentalist-church-jesus-christ-latter-day-saints https://web.archive.org/web/20100330223759/http://www.fldstruth.org/administration.php?index=8 https://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/15/us/mormon-leader-is-survived-by-33-sons-and-a-void.html https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23polygamist.html https://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/us/01polygamy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26jeffs.html?ref=warren_s_jeffs

This week, Sara and Danny are joined by Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth from the podcast "Trust Me: Cults, Extreme Beliefs, and the Abuse of Power" to talk all about the scandal that swept through Mormon MomTok. They discuss the Mormon MomToker at the center of it all, Taylor Frankie Paul, and how her unexpected news about her divorce rocked the MomTok world. They also breakdown all details of the scandal, and even explain what "soft swinging" really means. Be sure to check out the Trust Me podcast wherever you get your podcasts! RESOURCES: https://www.insider.com/expert-explains-soft-swinging-how-the-mormon-momtok-drama-unfolded-2022-6 https://www.thecut.com/2022/06/mormon-momtok-swingers-drama-explained.html

This week, Sara and Danny are joined by comedian and writer Dan Perlman to break down the chocolate company whose scandal shook the world of bougie confectionary: Mast Chocolate. They talk all about the company used fancy sounding buzzwords like bean-to-bar to fool everyone into thinking that their chocolate was the next big thing, all the while using commercially available chocolate and selling it at a way too high price. Be sure to follow @danperlman and watch Season 2 of his show Flatbush Misdemeanors out now!

Sara and Danny are back to cover a deep cut from 2009, The Hipster Grifter. They talk all about Kari Ferrell’s fraud-fueled journey from Salt Lake City all the way to the hipster capital of the world, Brooklyn. The cover all the scams she did along the way and how on earth she was able to get a job at Vice with just a few simple lies. After that, we’re bringing you all the games from our live show at Union Hall, where Sara and Danny go head to head (with the help of some audience members) to see who will come out on top. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to be sure not to miss our next live show!

Sara and Danny are back to talk about a scam in the 90's that affected over a million people in the US and abroad: the Maria Duval psychic mail scam. They go through all the details of how the scam came to be and how it functioned, and just how it managed to generate over $200 million in revenue by targeting the sick and the elderly. They also get into how the scam was brought down by the US government, and what happened to the fraudsters who perpetrated the scheme. To end the episode, they put their psychic powers of prediction to the test, answering a series of questions about how the rest of the year will unfold! RESOURCES: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/07/investigates/maria-duval-psychic-scam-invs/index.html https://nypost.com/2018/08/25/how-a-psychic-bilked-250m-with-a-simple-mail-scam/ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nyedce/2:2014cv06791/363225/51/ https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/16/news/psychic-maria-duval-chapter-four/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/30/news/psychic-maria-duval-chapter-five/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/16/news/maria-duval-psychics/index.html https://ecf.nyed.uscourts.gov/doc1/123111878951

Danny and Sara are back to cover the murder of Betty Gore at the hands of Candy Montgomery. They get into all the particulars of the case, and how a quiet neighborhood in Texas was the site of the gruesome murder. They also talk all about the events leading up to the murder, including the affair between Candy and Allan Gore that ultimately led to Betty's murder. They also discuss the bizarrely short trial that followed it, and the Hulu adaptation that just came out. To end the show, they play "I Want Candy!," where they try to name famous candy bars just from their slogans. RESOURCES: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/love-and-death-in-silicon-prairie-part-i-candy-montgomerys-affair/ https://www.myimperfectlife.com/features/where-is-candy-montgomery-today https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/candy-montgomery-hulu-true-story-jessica-biel-b2082120.html

Sara and Danny are back to talk about a company that's been in the headlines for the wrong reasons: 7M Films, which some allege is a cult. They break down the history of 7M, its church ties, as well as the latest accusations and previous legal troubles. To end the episode, they play a game of "On Pointe!" where they put their knowledge of a very different type of dancing (ballet) to the test. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to find tickets to our upcoming live show on June 5th! RESOURCES: https://www.thecut.com/2022/05/wilking-sisters-7m-allegations.html https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-cult-claims-surrounding-miranda-derrick-and-her-tiktok-dance-crew-7m-films

Sara and Danny kick off the episode with some updates on the Brittany Drexel disappearance, now that we’ve finally gotten some answers. After that, they dive into The Way Down part 2, and talk all about the second installment of the bizarre cult that mixed diet and religion. The get into the new information that was brought to us on the doc, and They also talk about if this second part was even necessary, and why these well known stories get a seemingly endless amount of attention while some other lesser known stories are barely covered. RESOURCES: https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-beauty-queen-tara-grinstead-murder-trial https://people.com/crime/georgia-teacher-and-former-beauty-queen-was-killed-17-years-ago-former-student-at-school-is-on-trial/

Sara and Danny are joined by the one and only Deanna Thompson AKA Baudi Moovan who we all know and love from Don't F**k With Cats! They start off talking about her involvement in the Luka Magnotta case and how the process of filming the documentary unfolded. She also shares what the documentary got absolutely right, and a few things that it didn’t quite nail. Then, they get into the work that she does online and how she goes about it, and why some internet sleuths end up doing more damage than good if they’re not careful and thoughtful about what they’re doing. Be sure to follow Deanna @realbaudimoovan to stay up to date with her projects!

This week, Sara and Danny are back with Payne Lindsey, who's back to share with us the updates on the case he helped bring to light years ago at this point: the disappearance of Tara Grinstead. They go over a quick overview of the case and then talk all about how the trail is shaping on and the give their thoughts on how it'll all unfold. After that, they get into some other pop culture topics and trials that are going on right now and Payne share's his thoughts on them with us. Be sure to follow @paynelindsey to stay up to date with everything he's doing!

Sara and Danny are back to hit us all with a hefty dose of 90's nostalgia as they discuss Netflix's latest documentary on Abercrombie & Fitch. They go over all the problematic aspects of the clothing store as it was run during its meteoric rise, and the racist and self-proclaimed exclusionary policies that they practiced for years before their declined. To end the show, they play a game called 'Musical Directions,' during which they put their musical knowledge to the test as they try to complete the lyrics of some iconic songs.

Sara and Danny are back to cover a case from the 60's that remains an open question to this day: the murders at Starved Rock for which Chester Weger spent almost 60 years in prison despite always maintaining his innocence. They go over everything we know about the case and the trial that followed it which garnered national attention. They also get into the events that led to his recent release under parole in 2020 and they the recent HBO documentary on the case. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with the case and to get your tickets for our upcoming live show!

Sara and Danny are back this week to discuss the bizarre story of Gerald Cotten that still has people searching for answers to this day. They kick things off with his early life and the founding of his crypto exchange Quadriga that quickly became the biggest cryptocurrency marketplace in Canada. Then, they get into his sudden death in India, and the circumstances that led to being millions of dollars worth of crypto to just vanish. They also discuss their theories of what actually happened, and whether Cotten is really dead or somehow managed to pull off the biggest scam in crypto history.

Danny and Sara are joined by the Scam Goddess herself, Laci Mosley (fangirl much?), to talk all about the latest true crime docs and celebrity cons. They start with the new Crypto King Netflix movie, revisit Bad Vegan, and talk about the semi-celeb credit card no one asked for. Then Laci shares some of her favorite con artist stories of all time, before closing things out with a convo about her role in the new iCarly reboot.

For this episode, Sara and Danny are back with a veritable Smorgasbord of true crime news that have been on our radar's lately. They start off with an update on Leslie Van Houten’s parole review and what California governor Gavin Newsome ruled on the matter. Then, they go over Ronnie Leon Hyde's Trial, a former youth pastor who is pleading guilty to charges of murder & dismemberment. The round it all off discussing a recent NYT article about how a select group of True Crime obsessed are aiding police forces in solving cold cases by donating considerable amounts of money to carry out DNA testing. Be sure to follow us @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with true crime news!

Sara and Danny are back (in studio!) to talk all about the latest Netflix Documentary taking the world of true crime by storm, 'Bad Vegan.' They give a little backround of the story and dive right in with the bizarre story of Sarma Melngailis and Anthony Strangis (aka Mr. Fox), which at times seems stranger than fiction. They also talk all about the documentary itself and give their thoughts on it overall. Let us know what you thought of it @notanothertruecrime!

Sara and Danny are back to cover a case chuck-full of twists and turns: the murder of Betsy Faria. They start off with some background about Betsy and her life before diving into the details of the murder. They discuss the night of the murder and her husband's account of it, and how the investigation might've been too quick to zero in on him. They also get into the trial of her husband, and the retrial that followed it years later. To round it all off, they discuss the bizarre looking show based on the story called "There's Something About Pam," and play a game testing their knowledge on iconic neighbors in popular media.

RESOURCES: https://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/who-was-betsy-faria-from-the-thing-about-pam https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/pam-hupp-charged-first-degree-murder-2011-stabbing-death-betsy-n1273772 https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/husband-of-lincoln-county-woman-found-dead-in-home-is/article_b6c38638-3720-11e1-8c21-001a4bcf6878.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/husband-of-lincoln-county-woman-found-dead-in-home-is/article_b6c38638-3720-11e1-8c21-001a4bcf6878.html#tncms-source=login https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/note-incriminates-defendant-in-lincoln-county-murder-trial-but-did/article_2c52c55f-e4cc-5a42-a8fb-1a9e2a0f12b3.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/pamela-hupp-charged-with-murder-in-alleged-frame-up-tied/article_916845ac-de2f-5d1e-ae5d-2b11a25b7287.html https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/timeline-from-the-betsy-faria-murder-to-the-shooting-death-of-louis-gumpenberger/html_19adbe2c-2b05-53f4-9fa1-234f045a2d19.html https://fox2now.com/news/fox-files/betsy-farias-daughter-says-dont-forget-victims-when-watching-pam-hupp-tv-series/

Sara and Danny are back to cover a case with a bizarre recent twist: the kidnapping of Sherri Papini. In 2016, she was "abducted," only to mysteriously reappear a few weeks later. After her story didn't quite add up, an investigation was launched that slowly started piecing together what actually happened to Sherri, and what they uncovered was pretty unbelievable. Recent updates have shed some light on Sherri's tall tales, and we break down everything we know so far. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all the ongoing updates! RESOURCES: https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/FBI-says-Sherri-Papini-made-up-kidnapping-16980963.php https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/us/sherri-papini-detention-hearing/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/07/us/sherri-papini-affidavit-ex-boyfriend/index.html https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1479901/download

Sara and Danny are back to talk about the tragic murder of Joy Risker in San Diego in 2003, which they learned all about from Killer Relationship with Faith Jenkins. They get into the particulars of the case, and how her strange disappearance was investigated and ultimately solved. After that, we are joined by Faith Jenkins herself for a special interview! She shares her insights on the case and what led her to covering it on the show. They also talk about She even shares some red flags that are commonly ignored in relationships and why they can be Be sure to check out Killer Relationship on Oxygen! RESOURCES: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16553112 https://www.oxygen.com/killer-relationship-with-faith-jenkins/crime-news/sean-goff-polygamist-preachers-kills-wife-joy https://www.oxygen.com/killer-relationship-with-faith-jenkins/crime-news/joy-risker-case-what-to-know-before-killer http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm?SourceCode=20060915ci#.Yh5R6hPMKWC https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna16546748

This week, Sara and Danny are joined by anti-MLM boss/commentary youtuber CC Suarez to cover the murder of Paige Birgfeld. CC starts off by sharing some of her background and her work and then we dig right into the case. They run through the circumstances behind Paige's disappearance in Colorado and how the investigation was conducted from the outset. They also cover the revelation that Paige was leading a double life before her disappearance, and how that impacted the subsequent efforts. The round it off covering the tracking down of the culprit and how the courts handled the case Be sure to follow CC at @iamccsuarez and check out her amazing Youtube page CC Suarez! RESOURCES: CC's Vid on the case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6gZRN8cYck https://abcnews.go.com/US/trials-killer-colorado-mom-secret-life-appeals-conviction/story?id=77812059 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfe

Sara and Danny are back to talk all about the disappearance of Brittanee Drexel, a 17-year old who went missing in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. They start off with the story of how she snuck out on a spring break trip against her mother's wishes (listen to your mothers kids) and how it all unfolded until her disappearance. They also cover a list of possible suspects, and why every investigation so far has come up blank. To end the show, the play "Answer Me Later, Gator!", a convoluted version of a trivia quiz about South Carolina's scariest predators: alligators.

Sara and Danny bring us a special bonus episode with a few stories hitting the headlines this week! They start off with a few thoughts on Netflix's Inventing Anna before diving into the headlines. First, they discuss the potential discovery of Susan Cox Powell's remains over a decade after her disappearance in Utah. They also talk about Prince Andrew's recent settlement in a sexual assault case levied against him. Make sure to follow @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates, and going the Facebook group where we talk all about them!

This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a con-artist that lurked Tinder to find his victims. They breakdown the details of how he would operate and how he managed to go for years without being caught, and how it all came crashing down eventually. They also discuss the recent Netflix documentary on the the subject, and how the documentary handled the story. To end the show, they play a game called 'Go Fund Yourself', where they try to guess how various absurd crowdfunding campaigns have fared RESOURCES: https://www.timesofisrael.com/el-al-rabbi-accused-in-fraud-scheme-alongside-son-the-tinder-swindler/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/tinder-swindler-extradited-back-to-israel-to-face-charges/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tinder-swindler-sentenced-to-15-months-in-prison/ https://www.newsweek.com/lld-diamonds-simon-leviev-response-comment-tinder-swindler-netflix-shimon-hayut-1676130 https://www.insider.com/tinder-swindler-fake-billionaire-scammed-women-dates-into-debt-documentary-2022-2 https://www.vg.no/spesial/2019/tindersvindleren/english/

This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a crime that made headlines all over New York City, the attempted murder of Michael Weiss in his Manhattan apartment. They start off giving some background in the people involved in the attack, including Jacob Nolan, who was the attacker, as well as Pamela Buchbinder, the victim's ex-girlfriend who allegedly convinced Jacob to carry out the attack. They also get into the state of the case today, and how 'justice' has been carried out so far. To end the show, they play a game during which they try to use their powers of manipulation and deception on the other host to see which one is going to be the winner of today's game! RESOURCES: https://nypost.com/2014/03/09/baby-mama-appears-to-buy-sledgehammer-used-to-attack-ex-video/ https://nypost.com/2014/10/13/victim-of-grisly-sledgehammer-attack-to-confront-his-ex-in-family-court/ https://nypost.com/2016/03/14/sledgehammer-attacker-convicted-for-attempting-to-murder-cousins-husband/ https://nypost.com/2016/03/02/teen-brainwashed-by-psychiatrist-cousin-to-attempt-murder-lawyers/ https://nypost.com/2016/07/27/sledgehammer-attacker-gets-10-years-for-attempted-murder/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dr-pamela-buchbinder-jacob-nolan-did-psychiatrist-brainwash-cousin-to-kill-ex-lover/ https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/shrink-charged-alleged-plot-kill-ex-lover-sledgehammer-article-1.3577782 https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/psychiatrist-who-allegedly-ordered-sledgehammer-bludgeoning-pleads-not-guilty/ https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/wanted-attempted-murder-suspect-from-nyc-caught-in-fayetteville/

Sara and Danny are back with some fraud-y updates coming from The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. First up, they breakdown the suit against Justin Rose and the company LifeVantage, an MLM that has been accused of being an illegal pyramid scheme. After that they dig into Mary Cosby's alleged cult, based around a church she inherited from her grandmother. They end the show with a game called 'Coming In First!", where they test their knowledge on the timeline of reality tv shows throughout the years and answer some trivia questions about them. RESOURCES: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-rose-51aa8225/ https://cdn.lifevantage.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2021/02/24103713/average-earnings-disclosure-20210127.pdf https://www.truthinadvertising.org/lifevantage-pyramid-scheme-claims/ https://www.truthinadvertising.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Smith-v-Lifevantage-complaint.pdf https://www.truthinadvertising.org/lifevantage-faces-pyramid-scheme-lawsuit/ https://realityblurb.com/2021/12/16/rhoslc-star-whitney-roses-husband-justin-sued-for-role-in-alleged-pyramid-scheme-plus-details-of-lawsuit-revealed/ https://www.winston.com/en/direct-sellers-update-regulation-law-and-policy/federal-court-dismisses-multiple-claims-in-ongoing-class-action-against-lifevantage.html https://www.lifevantage.com/us-en/company https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a38320133/mary-cosby-church-rhoslc-cult-leader-cameron/ https://www.thedailybeast.com/rhoslcs-mary-cosby-is-accused-of-running-a-religious-cult-by-former-congregation-members

This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover a cold case from the 60's that has remained unsolved to this day: The Sims Family Murders. They start off by breaking down the night in question and the timeline of events as it happened. Then, they talk about why the case has remained unsolved for so long, and go through the list of suspects that has been compiled throughout the years. To end the episode, they put their knowledge of football to the test, to see which of them is going to score a touchdown in the week's game. RESOURCES: https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2016/07/27/suspect-sims-murders-posts-musings-internet/87621126/ https://www.meridianstar.com/news/local_news/murder-mystery/article_eb758e96-ed4f-5856-87a9-b0fdbf641bd9.html https://news.fsu.edu/news/arts-humanities/2016/10/26/fsu-students-break-new-ground-film-cold-case/ https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-sims-family-triple-homicide-6bb55e55b8d3 https://www.indoorclimbing.com/Square_Knot.html https://www.wtxl.com/news/fsu-football-video-may-hold-secrets-in-sims-murder-fallout/article_81d96a94-55d1-11e6-b26d-3b098a751f6e.html https://vimeo.com/189936003?fbclid=IwAR3mvoHzF9N3FOSYUzjrYVDY0bObGRyV69QqW4BffQxWuvvQaxsSC7e5Pf0

Sara and Danny are back to cover a developing case from the DC area: The Shopping Cart Killer. They breakdown the timeline of events so far and everything that we know about the killer, and how he met his victims on various dating apps. They also cover the evidence that led to his capture, and what future developments we might see soon. After that, they talk a bit about a series of fires in Colorado that have been linked to the Twelve Tribes Cult, who are the infamous cult behind the Yellow Deli. They end the show playing The Grocery Game, where they put their knowledge of various Trader Joe's items to the test to see who will go on the board first in the 2022 NATCP Trivia Championships!

RESOURCES: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shopping-cart-killer-anthony-robinson-more-victims-identified/ https://www.fox5dc.com/news/who-is-the-shopping-cart-killer https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/17/us/anthony-robinson-shopping-cart-killer-virginia.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/08/us/virginia-alleged-shopping-cart-serial-killer/index.html

This week, with Sara away on vacation (we miss you Sara!), Danny and Jorge cover a tragic case that took place in one of NYC's trendiest social clubs, The Soho House. They begin with a bit of background on the Soho House itself before diving into all the details of the murder. They discuss the victim Sylvie Cachay's early life and career in fashion and how she met her boyfriend Nicholas Brooks, and how it all went south so quickly. They also breakdown all the detail of the night of the tragic event, and how the case unfolded in the aftermath. RESOURCES: 48 Hours: Death At Soho House (Troy Roberts) https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/timeline-investigating-the-death-of-designer-sylvie-cachay/16/ https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/fashion/06soho.html https://nymag.com/news/features/71271/ https://nypost.com/2011/06/23/joseph-brooks-leaves-250k-to-personal-trainer-nothing-to-four-kids/

Happy New Year! Sara and Danny start 2022 off with a bang as they give their superlatives for the year past and look forward to the year ahead. They run through their favorite true crime docs, disappointments, and moments of 2021 before sharing what they are most looking forward to in the year to come. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay in touch and share with us what you're looking forward to the most!

Sara and Danny are back for the final episode of the year! This week, they cover the Lawson Family Murders, during which Germanton tobacco farmer Charlie Lawson murdered his family on the afternoon of Christmas Day in 1929. They get into all the details leading up to the day and also discuss some possible motives behind the seemingly senseless act. To end the episode, they play a round of trivia on obscure facts of the crop that the Lawson family grew at their farm: tobacco. Happy Holidays from the NATCP Fam! RESOURCES: Deadly Secrets: The Lawson Family Murder Podcast https://greensboro.com/community/rockingham_now/lawson-family-murders-a-look-back-after-90-years/article_16aeaae1-5ded-57e8-bde0-35e0d3e69466.html https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/lawson-charles-davis.htm

With so many updates going on lately, we are back this week with a full round-up of everything that is happening in the world of crime. Sara is joined by Betches Pop Culture expert Dylan Hafer to break down all the news stories, including The Delphi Murders, Jen Shah, Scott Peterson, Ghislane Maxwell, Elizabeth Holmes, and Josh Duggar. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date with all the updates as they happens!

Sara and Danny are back to cover a holiday themed fraud for the ages. They get into the crimes of Sandy and Kay Jenkins, who worked for world-renowned Collin Street Bakery and stole millions of dollars from the company for years. To end the show, they take a trip down fraud memory lane in “Fraudie or Hottie?,” during which they try to decide whether various iconic frauds deserve some respect or we’re simply bad grifts.

RESOURCES: https://www.ketk.com/news/new-documentary-recounts-the-collin-street-bakery-fraud-scandal/ https://cpahalltalk.com/how-16-million-stolen-bakery/ https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/03/the-american-greed-report-is-your-financial-pro-ripping-you-off-watch-for-these-warning-signs.html https://www.hhcpa.com/blogs/business-valuation-litigation-blog/how-do-you-not-notice-17-million-missing/#:~:text=Sandy%20Jenkins'%20scheme%20was%20discovered,he%20would%20%E2%80%9Cfix%20it%E2%80%9D.

Sara and Danny are back to cover the crime spree of Belle Gunness, a farm owner in Illinois in the early 1900's. They start off with some relevant details of her early life and her immigration to the US from Norway, and then get into the suspicious deaths of people surrounding her who conveniently had named her as the beneficiary of multiple life insurance policies. They also break down how it all came to and end, and the trial that followed it which left many questions unanswered. To end the show, the travel back in time to explore old marital ads that were published in various newspapers, and decide if they would swipe left or right to these eligible bachelors looking for love. RESOURCES: https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/belle-gunness https://laportelibrary.org/at-the-library/explore-local/belle-gunness/ https://laportecountyhistory.org/exhibits/belle-gunness/ https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/triflers-need-not-apply-the-story-of-deadly-belle-gunness

Sara and Danny are here with another special bonus episode covering the latest developments in a few evolving stories. They kick things off with a breakdown of the Ghislane Maxwell trial and all the bizarre details coming from the proceedings. The also cover some updates on Elizabeth Holmes and the removal of an Astroworld Documentary after just 1 day of widespread outrage. Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date on all the ongoing updates!

Sara and Danny are back with a seasonal crime this week, covering how Omaima Nelson murdered and carved her husband during Thanksgiving 1991. The cover the situation in the marriage a leading up to the event, and what Omaima alleged was the inciting incident for the murder. They also go through the aftermath and all the details of the trail, which turned out to be stranger than fiction. To end the show, they play a game called ‘In Poor Taste’, where they try to discern fact from fiction in tasteless acts done by celebrities throughout the years. RESOURCES: https://abcnews.go.com/US/omaima-nelson-california-woman-convicted-grisly-murder-husband/story?id=14675780 https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/10/05/model-who-killed-cooked-and-ate-husband-denied-parole/ https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/model-24-killed-castrated-cooked-24953545 https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/martinis-murder/former-model-deep-fried-her-husbands-head-and-allegedly-said-his

Sara and Danny cover the chilling case of the Byron David Smith killings, which took place in Thanksgiving 2012 in Little Falls, Minnesota. They talk all about the situation before the killings, and how Smith conducted the killings in the basement of his house. They also breakdown the trial afterward, which centered around "the castle doctrine," and whether Smith acted in self-defense. To end the episode, they play "Not Another Thankful Thanksgiving," where they celebrate Thanksgiving this year by going through the things they are NOT thankful for this year!

RESOURCES: https://minnlawyer.com/2012/12/07/in-morrison-county-shooting-case-minnesota-state-law-on-trial/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trial-set-to-begins-for-minnesota-man-who-shot-teens-in-his-home/ https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/hear-graphic-audio-catches-moment-byron-smith-guns-teens-article-1.1776145 https://web.archive.org/web/20141026211139/http://bigstory.ap.org/article/little-falls-mourns-teen-cousin-shooting-victims https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/03/22/byron-smith-serving-life-for-murdering-teens-in-little-falls-denied-appeal-from-scotus/

Sara and Danny are back to cover another suitcase killer (!) they discovered while researching last week's episode: Melanie McGuire. They kick things off with some background on Melanie and how she met her husband Bill, and how it all unraveled when he mysteriously vanished. They also cover the investigation and the eventual trial along with some updates that have happened since. To end the show, they play 'Double Down!', where they are tested on their knowledge of casinos and gambling to see who has the most potential to become a high-stakes gambler!

SOURCES: To Have And To Kill: Nurse Melanie McGuire, an Illicit Affair, and the Gruesome Murder of her Husband by John Glatt https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/fashion/sundaystyles/murder-stirs-surrogacy-network.html https://abcnews.go.com/US/suitcase-killer-melanie-mcguire-defends-innocence-inside-prison/story?id=73099717

This week, Sara and Danny cover Heather Mack, aka The Suitcase Killer. They breakdown the tumultuous relationship she and her mother had for years leading up to the event, and how it all unfolded while on vacation in Bali. They also cover the aftermath, including the trail, and some recent updates on her imprisonment. To end the show, they play ‘The Perfect Fit’ where they try to compare a series of categories o find which one is the better fit!

SOURCES https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/suitcase-killer-heather-mack-heads-back-to-us-on-early-release/ https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/04/21/heather-mack-tommy-schaefer-convicted-of-killing-sheila-von-wiese-mack-in-bali/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/american-tommy-schaefer-jailed-bali-slaying-sheila-von-wiese-mack-n345301 https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-heather-mack-youtube-video-0206-20170204-story.html https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/11/03/heather-mack-arrested-conspiracy-obstruction-of-justice-murder-sheila-von-wiese-mack-bali-indonesia-tommy-schaefer/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/22/bali-suitcase-murder-troubled-family-life-chicago

Sara and Danny are back with another bonus episode with some wild updates on a few cases! They cover the latest updates regarding Brian Laundrie’s disappearance and debunk some conspiracy theories, news from the Elizabeth Holmes Trial, the Tiger King 2 trailer, and Robert Durst’s sentencing. Don’t forget to follow us @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates!

Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a fraudster that rocked the world of fine wine for years: Rudy Kurniawan. They break down just how he managed to infiltrate the world of ridiculously expensive wines without being detected and all the methods he employed to elude capture and make millions of dollars in the process. To end the show, they play a game of "My Way or The Sideways," where they are faced with a choice of either answering some obscure trivia questions about wine or trying their luck with wine-related pop culture trivia.

SOURCES: Sour Grapes Documentary https://apnews.com/article/sour-grapes-wine-fraud-rudy-kurniawan-deported-indonesia-440498ff72a055cedf606b56ecbbd052 https://www.theguardian.com/global/2016/sep/11/the-great-wine-fraud-a-vintage-swindle

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Sara and Danny are back to discuss the infamous crimes of Mark Twitchell and how he became known as The Dexter Killer. They breakdown how he conducted his murders and ultimately how it all led to his capture. They also get into the his trial, and how the proceedings went down. To end the show, they play 'Bust A Move!,' where they try to identify various fictional serial killers from their iconic moves. SOURCES: https://medium.com/dark-aberrations/the-murder-of-johnny-altinger-3dcc0a6883f8 https://edmontonjournal.com/news/bio-mark-andrew-twitchell https://web.archive.org/web/20160531043958/https://edmontonjournal.com/entertainment/Johnny+Brian+Altinger/4450724/story.html https://web.archive.org/web/20160202004921/https://edmontonsun.com/news/2011/03/22/17719841.html https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/mark-twitchell-a-closer-look-at-the-evidence/11/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/twitchell-found-guilty-of-1st-degree-murder-1.998969 https://www.ctvnews.ca/blood-everywhere-court-hears-as-twitchell-trial-begins-1.621221

Sara and Danny are back to talk all about Gwen Shamblin and her Weigh Down program, which spread all over the US as a weight loss alternative in the 90's. Then, they breakdown how she turned her TV talk show fame into a religious cult with influence all over the US with some disturbing practices.. To end the episode, they play ‘Big Hair Don’t Care’ where they try to identify a series of celebrities with iconic hairstyles from across the years! SOURCES: https://www.distractify.com/p/scott-amedure-trial-by-media https://www.ajc.com/news/national/killer-jenny-jones-gay-crush-murder-released-from-prison/CMKsybhg5nhHzggybvHdNO/ https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a32416884/jonathan-schmitz-scott-amedure-murder-trial-by-media-true-story-jenny-jones-show/ https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/member-features/gay-trans-panic-defense/ https://www.lambdalegal.org/blog/20140929_ending-the-panic

Sara and Danny are back to talk all about the murder of Scott Amadure after his appearance on The Jenny Jones Show. They start with some background on the show and the type of segments that they used to do before breakdown the events that led to Scott’s death and the case that followed it. They end the episode with ‘Do You Know Me At All?!,’ where they put their friendship to the test to see just how well they know each other!

Sara and Danny are joined this week by Kyra Breslin to talk all about ‘Finding Lauren,’ her true-crime documentary podcast series that looks at the ongoing investigation of missing Indiana University student, Lauren Spierer. They talk all about the case as we mark the 10th anniversary of her disappearance, and Kyra breakdown all the elements that she focused on for the podcast and what we can expect for the rest of the series. Be sure to listen to ‘Finding Lauren’ now wherever you get your podcasts!

Sara and Danny are back to cover the case that everyone seems to be talking about, the disappearance of Gabby Petito. They breakdown everything we know about the timeline and all the recent updates, before moving on to cover a few other cases in the area that haven’t received as much attention, but need to be talked about. PETITION: https://www.change.org/p/buckeye-arizona-police-department-justice-for-daniel-robinson SOURCES: https://nypost.com/2021/09/13/nyc-woman-gabby-petito-missing-after-cross-country-trip-with-boyfriend/ https://news.yahoo.com/710-indigenous-people-mostly-girls-042150990.html https://wysac.uwyo.edu/wysac/reports/View/7713 https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/gabby-petitos-boyfriend-issues-statement-over-her-disappearance/ https://www.thecut.com/2021/09/disappearance-of-gabby-petito-what-we-know.html https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/09/08/women-killed-moab-told/ https://www.insideedition.com/officials-say-no-link-between-petitos-disappearance-and-newlyweds-who-were-fatally-shot-in-unsolved https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/kylen-schulte-moab-murders-laundrie-b1923564.html https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/gabby-petito-murder-investigation-internet-viral https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gabby-petitos-death-caused-national-141831744.html https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mary-johnson-missing-indigenous-woman-fbi-10000-dollars/ https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/where-is-daniel-robinson-three-months-after-the-24-year-old-geologist-disappeared-in-buckeye-the-case-is-now-gaining-national-attention/75-dc128b34-1996-40ef-85d8-b4d452426da4 https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/info_flyers/fact_sheets/2018NCVRW_VictimsWithDisabilities_508_QC.pdf https://people.com/crime/brian-laundrie-allegedly-aggressive-restaurant-staff-report/

Danny and Sara are back to talk about a seriously disturbing crime spree by one of Britain’s most notorious serial killers, Dennis Nilsen. They talk about Nilsen’s killings, his gruesome tendencies, and how he was eventually caught. To end the episode on a more positive note, they play a game called ’It’s Getting Scot In Here!’, where they attempt to answer a series of trivia questions about Nilsen’s country of birth: Scotland. CW: This episode contains some graphic descriptions SOURCES: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50152862 https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18714724.dennis-nilsen-eight-chilling-facts-scottish-serial-killer/ https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/dennis-nilsen Netflix Documentary

Sara and Danny are back yet again with another special emergency with some wild updates on a few cases! They cover the latest in the Murdaugh murders, including some crucial updates in Alex’s shooting; some bizarre details of the ongoing case against Elizabeth Holmes; and a potential new discovery of evidence near where Maura Murray went missing. Don’t forget to follow us @notanothertruecrime for ongoing updates!

SOURCES: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/us/alex-murdaugh-shooting-arrest.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/us/alex-murdaugh-murders-law-firm.html https://www.npr.org/2021/09/14/1036835868/elizabeth-holmes-trial-hotelier-bill-evans-goes-incognito https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/maura-murray-missing-woman-new-hampshire-state-police-bone-fragments-loon-mountain/ https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-murdaugh-housekeeper-fell-home-212700951.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/us/murdaugh-shooting-arrest-thursday/index.html

Sara and Danny dive into a case that takes place in South Carolina, Heather Elvis’ mysterious disappearance. They break down the circumstances surrounding the night she vanished and then get into the likeliest suspects and what we know about what could’ve happened to her. They also talk all about the court cases that have followed and their outcomes. To end the show, they take inspiration from the restaurant Heather worked at, The Tilted Kilt, and try to find the best restaurant name in America! Be sure to follow @notanothertruecrime to vote for your pick and stay up to date on all things crime.

SOURCES: https://www.wbtw.com/news/new-evidence-released-in-heather-elvis-disappearance/ https://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/article16661093.html https://abc7.com/heather-elvis-case-abc-2020-tammy-moorer/10394818/

Sara and Danny dive into the as-of-yet undetermined cause of the death of Leslie Neulander. Although we always say ‘it was the husband’, and Dr. Robert Neulander has been accused and convicted of her murder, he has always maintained his innocence and a retrial is expected to take place early 2022. Was her death an unfortunate accident, or murder? To end the show, they play a game of “My Health Care Plan Is Not Getting Sick!,” where they attempt to correctly answer a series of questions about the convoluted and ridiculous health care industry in the US.

SOURCES: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/accident-or-murder-48-hours-investigates-death-of-leslie-neulander/ https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/02/six-years-after-first-robert-neulander-trial-murder-retrial-hits-yet-another-snag.html https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/08/robert-neulanders-murder-retrial-bumped-again-new-date-is-nearly-a-decade-after-wifes-death.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/nyregion/robert-neulander-wife-murdered.html https://cnycentral.com/news/local/neulanders-second-chance-the-death-of-his-wife-a-media-circus-and-now-a-new-trial

Danny and Sara are back this week with a guest that needs no introduction, Payne Lindsey! They kick things off with a breakdown of Payne’s first case he ever worked on, the disappearance of Tara Grinstead, and how he went from a true-crime fan to launching multiple massively popular podcasts by himself. They also get into the state of true crime at the moment, and how the whole landscape has evolved throughout the years. Be sure to check out season 3 of Up and Vanished, coming out on September 1st!

Sara and Danny are back for a special emergency episode with some new updates on two ongoing cases! First they dive into some new information regarding Scott Peterson’s appeal before breaking down updates in the Crystal Rogers case and what they could mean in regards to her disappearance. Follow us @notanothertruecrime to stay up to date as new information comes out!

SOURCES: https://abc11.com/scott-peterson-laci-abc-2020-one-last-chance/10632626/ https://www.ksby.com/news/california-news/juror-in-scott-peterson-trial-didnt-disclose-being-a-victim https://www.kron4.com/news/california/scott-peterson-trial/scott-peterson-trial-attorneys-defend-rogue-juror-accused-of-lying/ https://www.today.com/news/scott-peterson-s-sister-law-says-new-evidence-proves-he-t229042 https://people.com/crime/scott-petersons-sister-in-law-claims-new-evidence-proves-hes-innocent-of-killing-his-pregnant-wife/ https://www.wlky.com/article/day-2-fbi-bardstown-subdivision-search-crystal-rogers-case/37394829

In this week’s episode, Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a powerful family that has been involved in a number of cases throughout the years: the Murdaugh’s from South Carolina. They start off with a little background on the family and its main members before diving into the various cases surrounding them, focusing on a double homicide and a fatal boating incident a few years ago. After that, they get into some recent updates on the boating incident, which is making its way through the courts this year. To end the show, they play a game called The Sur-Name Game, where they attempt to name notable families just from hearing the first names of a few of its members.

Sources: https://people.com/crime/murdaugh-murders-south-carolina-inside-powerful-family/ https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/06/24/throwback-thursday-randolph-murdaughs-hampton-county/7778931002/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/19/inside-the-toxic-murdaugh-family-of-south-carolina/ https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article227456544.html https://people.com/crime/murdaugh-family-murders-were-killing-mom-son-connected-three-previous-deaths/ https://www.briceherndonfuneralhome.com/obituary/Gloria-Satterfield https://nypost.com/2021/06/17/sc-mom-son-were-sent-threats-before-murders-family-reveals/ https://www.fitsnews.com/2020/10/20/sc-fatal-boat-crash-lawsuit-murdaughs-refuse-to-settle-withhold-financial-records-from-victims-family/ https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/07/22/murdaugh-killings-911-call-recordings-sled-hampton-county-colleton/8066104002/ https://www.augustachronicle.com/story/news/local/hampton-county-guardian/2021/08/09/murdaugh-boat-crash-charges-dropped-recently-killed-son-paul/5538233001/ https://www.insideedition.com/1-month-on-since-paul-murdaugh-and-maggie-murdaugh-were-murdered-still-no-suspects-as-investigation https://www.crimeonline.com/2021/08/07/hear-it-rot-in-hell-mallory-beachs-boyfriend-screams-at-paul-murdaugh-after-fatal-boat-crash/ https://www.fitsnews.com/2021/08/04/his-ass-will-be-responsible-dashcam-video-from-murdaugh-boat-crash-released/

Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a case that has it all, the murder of Maurizio Gucci in 1995. They start off with a little background about the fashion house and how Maurizio managed to end up as its head amidst the family fighting for control. Then, they dive into all the details of his murder, and how popular opinion immediately turned towards Patrizia Reggiani, Maurizio’s ex-wife with whom he had just gone through a long and contentious divorce. Finally, they walk us through the long investigation that finally uncovered the truth behind Maurizio’s death. To end the episode they play a game of The Devil and The Zoo, where they try to guess what quotes belong to which of two iconic fashion movies: The Devil wears Prada and, of course, Zoolander!

Sara and Danny are back to discuss the murder of Helle Crafts, a flight attendant who went missing in 1986. They discuss the circumstances of her disappearance and how all roads led to her husband, as we’ve seen countless of times before. They also get into the investigation of her murder and the unlikeliest of heroes that led to the eventual capture of the killer: private investigator Keith Mayo, who refused to let the case go cold. To end the episode, the play Making Mr. Mayo Merry, where they put their own lateral thinking to the test in a series of riddles to find out who would make the best private investigator!

Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a mysterious vanishing at sea: the disappearance of Rebecca Coriam. They start off with some background on her life and how she ended up working at the Disney Wonder Cruise, and what we know about her time aboard the ship. Then, they get into the night of her disappearance, and discuss all the theories about her fate. Was her vanishing merely an accident, or was it a criminal act? To end the show, they play “Yeah, Buoy!”, testing their knowledge of various nautical terms to see how prepared they would be in an emergency at sea.

Sara and Danny are back to breakdown one of the longest police standoffs in history: The Waco Siege. They start with the origins of the Branch Davidians and its eventual leader David Koresh, who was at the top of the cult at the time of the siege. They also go through the cult’s beliefs and what life at the compound was like, before getting into some of the darker detail’s of Koresh’s abuse of his followers. The end the show, they play Caught in The Vor-Texas!, where they take a trivia journey through the 6 flags that have flown above Texas throughout its history.

This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover an OG MLM with an iconic color: Mary Kay. They start off with the story of its founding by Mary Kay Ash, and then get into all the shady business practices that the company upholds to this day. They also breakdown what we know about their income statements, and just how small of a percentage of its sales force actually makes any money. After that, they discuss the legal challenges Mary Kay has had along the way and how they have impacted the business. They end the show with a game called ‘Pink The Right Choice!,’ where they try to answer a series of questions that all have to do with Mary Kay’s signature color: pink.

This week, Sara and Danny host writer, language scholar, and podcast host Amanda Montell, for a fascinating conversation about about cults and what makes them so effective at garnering our attention. They cover cult-ish groups and organizations from Scientology to SoulCycle and everything in between. They also discuss some ways to approach people who might be engaging in cults to a worrying degree, and why telling them that they’re in a cult might be counter-productive. Be sure to check out Amanda’s book ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism,’ and check out her podcast ‘Sounds Like A Cult’ wherever you get your podcasts!

On this episode, Sara and Danny are back to discuss a case that generates as much curiosity as outrage, the kidnapping of Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn from their own home in the early hours of the morning. They breakdown how the situation progressed and why both the media and police authorities wrongfully thought that it was all a hoax, and how the situation was finally resolved in spite of law enforcement’s disastrous response. Then, Danny and Sara are joined by Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn themselves, who have recently published ‘Victim F: From Crime Victims To Suspects To Survivors,’ telling their own story from their perspective. They talk about their experience in writing the book together and then get into some of incredible details of their story, including their difficulties with the police and the bizarre way the media reacted to the case. They also get into the current state of law enforcement in America, and what impact they hope the book can have on our future.

This week, Sara and Danny are back to talk all and about The Family, an Australian doomsday cult founded by Anne Hamilton-Byrne. They breakdown everything from the cult’s beginnings in yoga studios for well-to do people to the spiritual hodgepodge that made up the cult’s belief system. They also get into the dark aspects of how they operated, and Anne’s ‘adoptions’ of dozens of children that she believed would be the beginning of a master race to rule the world. To end the show, Sara and Danny make their very own cults in ‘Build A Cult!.’ Make sure to follow us @notanothertruecrime to vote for your favorite!

This week, Sara and Danny are back to cover an unsolved cases with more questions that answers: the 1991 Yogurt Shop Murders in Austin. They cover all the circumstances that lead to the crime as well as the evidence that was recovered, and a few possible reasons why the crime has remained unsolved for so long. Plus, they breakdown everything we know from the investigations that have followed it and even the false confessions that have stymied significant progress on the case. To end the show, the play Eat It Up!, here they try to answer a series of food related questions to see who is the ultimate food connoisseur.

This week, Sara and Danny are back to breakdown a murder plot with some fascinating twists and turns. April Kauffman was found dead in 2012, and the lengthy investigation that followed her murder was centered around her husband, Dr. James Kauffman. Along the way, the authorities uncovered a number of suspicious reports about Dr. Kauffman’s, including multiple allegations of fraud from his medical practices, along with some shady connections to the Pagans Biker’s Gang. Sara and Danny breakdown the whole saga from beginning to end and discuss all the twists and turns. To end the episode, the play a game called “Angels and Pagans,” where they test their knowledge on the Pagan’s Club and the Hell’s Angels to see who is the true biker at heart.

We are back this week, and although Danny is away in Mexico, Sara welcomes in Betches pop culture expert Dylan Hafer to breakdown a few stories of fraud from the Real Housewives universe. They start off with Jen Shah’s recent arrest, discussing all the particulars of her telemarketing scheme, her indictment, and what awaits her. Then, they get into the embezzling allegations against Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi. To end they show, they play a fun round of Housewives Trivia, where they first have to guess who said various iconic quotes and then approximate what their net worth is. Be sure to check out Pop Alarm to get your daily 5-minute pop culture fix wherever you get your podcasts!

This week, Sara and Danny tackle one of the most infamous criminals in NYC history: David Berkowitz aka The Son of Sam. They cover Berkowitz’ childhood and military record all the way to his eventual capture. They also dive into the alleged motive behind his criminal spree, which bizarrely centered around the demonic possession of German Shepherds. Next, they give us their thoughts on the recent Netflix documentary’, The Sons of Sam: A Descent Into Darkness,’ and breakdown some of the theories it suggests. Finally, they listen to the music of the time, testing their knowledge of iconic songs released in 1976, the year of the Son of Sam murders.

Sara and Danny are back to talk all about a very strange group: The Love Has Won cult. They focus on their leader Amy Carlson and the bizarre set of beliefs that guided the cult, breaking down their scams, structure, and connections to other modern cult-like groups. They also discuss the recent death of their leader and the bizarre scene that her corpse was discovered in, which was decorated with glitter and Christmas tree lights. They end the show by playing “Sleigh What?,” where they put their knowledge of various Christmas topics to the test and compete to be the ultimate Christmas fanatic.

This week, Sara and Danny bring us a vintage crime spree from the turn of the 20th century: Amy Duggan Archer-Gilligan’s poisoning of dozens of tenants at her boarding house. They start off by breaking down some interesting details about Amy’s early years and then dive in to her murders, which all took place over the course of 10 years. They also cover how she was allowed to operate for so long before being caught, and discuss her eventual capture and trial. They end the show with a round of living arrangements Would You Rather?, where they carefully consider where they would rather live given a few difficult choices.

Sara and Danny are back this week to bring us all the details about the disappearance of Crystal Rogers from a small town in Kentucky. They go through her last sightings and all the particulars of the case, including the discovery of her car and the puzzling delay in her being reported missing. Next, they turn to the likeliest suspect in this case, and what they police investigations so far have revealed. They also go into a few recent updates on the case, and what we can expect to find out in the coming months. They end the show with a video game audio round, where they try to name classic video games from years gone by just by their sounds.

Sara and Danny are back this week to tackle one of the most famous unsolved cases in history: the Black Dahlia Murder. They start off with some details about Elizebeth Short’s life as an aspiring actress and then get into the specifics of the grisly murder. They also breakdown the slapdash investigation that followed which yielded hundreds of suspects but made no substantial progress for years. Then they run through the list of most prominent suspects and a few recent updates that might be finally uncovering the truth behind the murder. To round out the show, they play a game called ‘A Cut Above The Rest!,’ where they test their knowledge of anatomy and the human body.

Sara and Dany are back with a crime with some very recent developments: the disappearance of Kristin Smart. They start off by giving some context on the events that led to her disappearance in 1996. They also go into the maddening police response at the time, and give a few reasons as to why this crime has remained unsolved for so long. Then, they break down all the recent developments that have led to the arrest of a prime subject, and what steps the investigators took to finally get them there. They end the show with a game paying tribute to all the good dogs out there called “Unleash Your Pup-tential!” where they put their knowledge of famous dogs around the world to the test. Be sure to follow us at our NEW handle on IG @notanothertruecrime to stay tuned with this case as we continue to get more information!

On this episode, Sara and Danny go into the Yellow Deli Cult, who operate a string of infamous delis around the world that have generated more than a fair share of controversy for their fundamentalist religious background. They go into the cult’s long list of problematic beliefs and objectionable practices, which include child abuse, racism, sexism, and forced free labor. They also breakdown accounts from former cult followers, and delve deeper into the origins of the cult and where their beliefs came from. To finish it off, they end the episode with a game of ‘Who’s Cult Is It Anyways?’, during which they try to figure out the names of various notable cult leaders through yes or no questions.

This week, Sara and Danny are back with a breakdown of the college admissions scandal that landed Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman in prison (for like, 2 minutes). They start off with some background on the ringleader of the scheme, Rick Singer, and how he ended up making millions from sneaking in rich kids to elite colleges. Then they go into how the whole scheme was discovered and ultimately busted, and the all the fallout from the federal investigation that followed. They also discuss the recent Netflix documentary, Operation Varsity Blues, and whether it was a hit or a miss. To end the episode, they play a game of Easy Fake, where they try to guess which absurdly named college courses are real and which are fake.

Sara and Danny are back with a fascinating conversation with journalist Gabrielle Bluestone about her new book “HYPE: How Scammers, Grifters, and Con Artists Are Taking Over the Internet―and Why We're Following.” They go all into how social media has ushered in a new type of scams and grifts into our lives and what implications influencers can have on our world at large. They also discuss Gabrielle’s involvement in the FYRE documentary and how that experience informed the book and what it shows us about where we are heading. You can follow her on Twitter @g_bluestone and her book is out April 6th!

Sara and Danny are back to cover a fraudster for the ages: Kevin Trudeau and his seemingly unending list of schemes and scams. They go over Trudeau’s journey from beginning to end, including his participation in MLMs, dubious self-help books, and so called miraculous health products, all the while being actively pursed by the FTC for his numerous crimes and infractions. Then, they play a game of “As Seen on NATCP!” where they try to name infamous infomercial products from years gone by.

This week, Danny hosts the fabulous historian Natalia Petrzela to talk all about her new podcast Welcome To Your Fantasy, which explores the fascinating story behind the ‘80s male exotic dance show Chippendales. Natalia walks us through the historical context that set the scene for the show, and how its emergence walked hand in hand with the feminist sexual liberation movement of the time. She also goes into the turbulent relationship between the founders, and how it escalated to its fatal conclusion. They end the episode with a game of “Chippendales Shazam!” during which the take turns trying to name a few songs from the original Chippendales show. Find the podcast on Spotify, and follow @nataliapetrzela and @chippendalesrevealed on Instagram!

Sara and Danny are back to discuss the disappearance of 19-year-old Bryce Laspisa, whose car was found crashed in a ravine in California with no sign of him anywhere nearby. They go into his background and his strange behavior in the days leading up to his vanishing, and discuss several possibilities of his fate. They also cover a few other disappearance in the area, and note the similarities in each of the circumstances. Then, they play a game of ‘Bulls in a Trivia Game’ where they put they put their knowledge of bulls in popular media to the test in honor of a tattoo that Bryce has on his shoulder.

Sara and Danny are back to discuss a captivating Hollywood case, the mysterious death of celebrity actress Natalie Wood. They start off with an overview of Natalie’s career and personal life before the incident, and then breakdown the events on the night of her death. They go through all the people present on the night and dig in to the inconsistencies in the story that have emerged in the years since. The end the episode with a quiz titled ‘And the Oscar Goes to… Jail!’, where they put their knowledge of celebrity crimes to the test.

Sara and Danny are back to discuss an international serial killer whose life seems stranger than fiction: The Vienna Strangler. They cover the whole timeline of Jack Unterweger’s crimes, starting from the first murder that landed him in prison for life, his premature release, and his crime spree in the United States. Then they go into the recent Netflix documentary ‘Hotel Cecil’ and whether its was a worthwhile portrayal of this infamous hotel and the many incidents that took place there. They end the episode with a segment called ‘Don’t Be A-Freud!’, where they take a look at their subconscious minds to get to uncover what it reveals about themselves.

This week, Sara and Danny have a fascinating conversation with accomplished, Emmy-award winning journalist Troy Roberts. Troy shares a few stories from his long career covering crime, and they dig into what patterns seem to emerge from all the crimes he’s covered. Then they give a sneak preview to a case that Troy covers on his show Killer Motive, about the murder of a Navy officer by the people we considered closest. To round it all out, they play ‘Arrr you knowledgeable?’, a game that puts their pirate knowledge to the test!

Sara and Danny are back for a surprise bonus episode all about the now infamous Stinnett Chief of Police, Jason Collier. They go over all the particulars of the story, including his simultaneous engagements to several women, his appalling choice of gifts for his multiple financés, and his eventual arrest. We’ll be back on Monday for our usual episode!

This week, Sara and Danny dive into the details of a disturbing open case: The Long Island Serial Killer. They go an overview of the crime spree and the numerous victims that have been found throughout the years, highlighting the patterns that seem to have emerged in the killer’s M.O. They also go into a few possible reasons for why the case remains unsolved and offer their thoughts on a few notable suspects. Then, they switch gears to give an update of a recent court ruling regarding one of the most infamous MLMs, LuLaRoe. They end the show by putting their knowledge to the test with a game of The Long Game, where they try to guess numbers related to several crime related records throughout history.

Sara and Danny are back to discuss one of the most notorious criminals from the Golden State: The Night Stalker. They unpack Richard Ramirez’s childhood and discuss how his experiences played a role in his path towards murder. Then, they delve into an overview of his crimes and the bizarre court case that followed his arrest. They also talk about the recent Netflix documentary, Night Stalker, and whether the criticism it has received is fair. They end the show with a game of California Quizin’!, testing their knowledge on several other notable California serial killers.

Sara and Danny discuss one of the most requested open cases by our listeners: the murder of fitness instructor Missy Bevers in 2016. They go into the circumstances of the murder and why this remains unsolved despite video footage of the prime suspect. They also delve into their theories of who the culprit is, and decide who they would focus on if the case was up to them. To round it all out, the end the show with a game of Crime and Punishment, where they come up with creative punishments for minor annoyances that should be considered crimes.

Sara and Danny dive into this one of the biggest and most infamous Multi-Level Marketing companies, Herbalife. They talk about what led Mark R. Hughes to found this company, and delve into their questionable and possibly fraudulent business practices. The also cover the documentary Betting on Zero, which follows hedge fund manager Bill Ackman’s crusade to expose the company and to profit off of its demise. Then they end the show with a fun game of ‘What The Sell?!,’ where they test their knowledge on other notable MLM’s.

We are back with a surprise episode to cover ABC’s The List: Who Killed JonBenét? 20/20. We start with some overall thoughts and expectations, and then delve into the meat of the documentary. Does it offer substantial new evidence, or is it just a rehash of the same old information? Also, we discuss whether the documentary had any impact on our opinions on the case and if it changed our theories.

Sara and Danny are back in the new year to talk about the biggest news story of the last few days of 2020: the mystery of Hilaria Baldwin’s identity. They go through the weird way this whole thing started and Hilaria’s changing stories, plus Alec’s perplexing video.

In part 2 of the D.B. Cooper breakdown, Danny and Sara discuss even more suspects of the infamous highjacking. Who do they think it is?

It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s.. a potentially average business man jumping out of a plane he hijacked? To end 2020, we are tackling one of the biggest Whodunnits in history: none other than D.B. Cooper. But before we get into the theories and beyond, Danny and Sara also talk about a US student who was jailed for breaking international quarantine rules, an influencer turned murderer, and obviously... the Journalist and the Pharma Bro. Vom.

In Part 2 of this special Christmas case, Sara and Danny dive into the moment you’ve all been waiting for, the mysterious fire. They discuss theories on how the fire started in the first place, and whether or not the Sodder children actually died in the fire. American Giant: American Giant makes clothing that’s durable, not disposable. Get 15% off your first order when you use promo code NATCP at American-Giant.com

Sara and Danny return for a very special “Wait What” bonus episode to break down HBO’s “The Undoing”. They discuss Nicole Kidman’s choice in husbands (both on screen and off), the blindspots in the show’s storytelling and why Sara wasn’t surprised at how the season ended.

On Christmas in 1945, the Sodder Family home went up in flames. 4 out of the 9 children escaped, but the other 5 were never seen again. While some think they perished in the fire, parents George and Jennie were convinced the children were still alive. Some strange details seem to confirm the fire was caused by foul play. Danny & Sara go through the events and theories of what happened to the Sodder children. Plus, updates on the Alonzo Brooks case, Fort Hood, and Amanda Knox. Sources https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-children-who-went-up-in-smoke-172429802/ https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/what-happened-to-the-five-sodder-children/news-story/861777f8c048b45241d42dd9fc4d5ee0 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5067563

On this special “Wait....What?” bonus episode Sara and Danny discuss the HBO documentary sensation “Murder on Middle Beach”. They discuss their reactions to the show’s theories, who they think did it, which family member is the sketchiest, and their thoughts on where the case will go from here.

This week Sara and Danny take you back to NJ, the land of Taylor ham and full service gas stations, to investigate the mysterious death of Jeanette Depalma. They discuss the weird Christian movement that Jeannette became a part of before her death, the reasons the case remains unsolved after all these years, and the satanic cult that’s rumored to have killed her.

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On this very special bonus episode, Sara and Danny are joined by host of the “Reality Life” podcast, Kate Casey. They discuss the new Netflix doc “Carmel: Who Killed Maria Marta?” including the possibility of a cover up, the Argentinian drug cartel’s involvement and who they think actually killed Maria Marta.

In the conclusion of this two part saga of the scam life of fake Saudi prince Anthony Gignac, Sara and Danny continue the timeline that follows one of the most prolific con artists in modern American history to its completion. From running up actual royalty tabs at Neiman Marcus to an attempted fake sale of the famed Fountain Bleu hotel in Miami, find out which con was the one that finally got our prince thrown in the slammer. American Giant: American Giant makes clothing that’s durable, not disposable. Get 15% off your first order when you use promo code NATCP at American-Giant.com

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This week Sara and Danny dive into part one of an investigation on possibly the greatest scammer the world has ever seen, Anthony Gignac, the fake Saudi Prince. The begin by exposing 2 scams making their way around the internet right now: the secret Santa gift exchange and bacterial antivirus lanyards. Then they recount Gignac's scams which include everything from impersonating fake middle eastern royalty, to running up credit cards with $200 million limits, find out how many incredible scams this con man was able to pull off.

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In the finale of this 2 part American Government MLM deep dive, Sara and Danny break down Amway. How did this carefully constructed great American scam was operate for as long as it did? Ask Betsy DeVos.

In part 1 of this 2-parter, Sara and Danny discuss updates to the Britney conservatorship. Then they get into the topic of the episode: the pyramid schemes in the White House. They talk about our soon-to-be-ex POTUS and the multilevel marketing schemes he earned millions from: Trump Network and ACN.

Danny and Sara talk election stress (tbt), read a listener submitted ghost story, and discuss Carl Lentz’s recent firing from Hillsong Church. Then they get into the story of Barbara Kogan, aka NYC’s Black Widow, who served 12 years in prison for commissioning her husband’s murder.

This week Sara and Danny break down the murder of child film star, Judith Barsi. They discuss her abusive relationship with her father, her family’s decision to move into a “haunted house” and the Quibi show that brought the case back into the public conscience. They also read some listener stories about getting ghosted in honor of Halloween.

Not Another True Crime presents the eighth and final installment of the limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. This week, we’ve finally arrived at the crown jewel of American nepotism: the Trump family (and by extension the Kushners). First, Alicia tells us where Donald Trump’s son-in-law got his start (under his father’s watch), and covers the various scandals and convictions the Kushner family has under its belt. Next, Bryan tries to explain how Donald Trump’s father helped create one of the most inept (and destructive) presidents in history, and tells us how his children carry on the family tradition of raking in money and opportunity despite their lack of any discernible merit. Finally, they close the show with a game of “Daddy Sent Me” all about famous figures who benefited from being legacy admissions to a prestigious university.

This week Sara and Danny are joined by host of the “True Crime Obsessed” podcast, Patrick Hinds. They discuss the mysterious death of Chandra Levy, whether or not Scott Pederson is actually innocent and of course, what to do when you’ve been single in quarantine for 7 months.

Not Another True Crime presents the seventh installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. This week, we’re talking all about the families responsible for producing two recent Republican presidential nominees, the McCains and the Romneys. First, Bryan tells us about the rise of John McCain, from his family’s military roots to his election to the Senate, and finally his ascendence to power and eventual campaign against Barack Obama in 2008. Next, Alicia explains the origins of Mitt Romney’s dynastic family, including his father’s time as Governor of Michigan, the source of their enormous wealth, and how he became a presidential nominee. Finally, they close things out with a game of “Do You Know Who Said It?” featuring real quotes from both John and Mitt.

This week Sara and Danny are joined by a real life Hollywood Movie Star, the one and only, Adam Brody. Adam discusses his new “The Kid Detective”, the likelihood of a virtual “OC” reunion, and the unsolved mysteries that he thinks about most.

Not Another True Crime presents the sixth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. This week, we’re talking all about two of the richest families in human history, the Waltons and the Kochs. First up, Alicia tells us how Sam Walton and his Walmart empire led his children and their descendants to become the wealthiest family in the world. Next, Bryan tells us all about the infamous Koch brothers and how their family fortune enabled them to become one of the most powerful influencers of political policy on the planet. Finally, they close the show with a game of Walton family trivia called “Retail or Tall Tale” featuring a few facts that just may surprise you.

This week Sara and Danny investigate one of Colorado’s most tragic and high profile true crime cases, the Watts Family murders. They discuss the case as well as the new Netflix documentary, "American Murder: The Family Next Door"

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Not Another True Crime presents the fifth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. On this week’s episode, we’re talking all about the families behind two of the biggest media empires in the world, Fox News (the Murdochs) and The New York Times (the Ochs Sulzbergers). First, Bryan walks us through the history of the Murdochs, starting with patriarch Rupert Murdoch’s rise to wealth and power. Plus, he outline the many scandals the family has endured and how Rupert’s children stand to inherit his vast empire. Next, Alicia outlines the lineage of the Ochs Sulzbergers and how the role of publisher has been passed from one (white male) family member to another for over a century. Finally, they finish this week’s episode with a game called “Get With the Times” all about some of the most interesting facts about these two media families.

This week Sara and Danny are joined by the one and only true crime legend herself, Nancy Grace. They discuss Nancy’s theories on a cover up at Fort Hood, the gruesome details of the murder of Vanessa Guillen and all the unsolved cases on Nancy’s radar.

Not Another True Crime presents the fourth installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. On this week’s episode, Alicia guides us through the lineage of another one of the most powerful dynasties in American history, the Kennedy family. First, they discuss the rise of JFK’s father Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. and how he groomed his sons for a life in politics. Next, they discuss the success of the Kennedy sons, including JFK’s time as president, and cover the many scandals the family endured. Finally, they close things out with a game of “Kennedy or It Can’t Be” all about some of the most surprising Kennedy family trivia.

This week Sara and Danny dive deep into a great Australian scam, the story of Brisbane influencer, Belle Gibson. They discuss Belle’s tumultuous upbringing, her attempted fake brain tumor miracle cure scam, and her disputed claims that she’s been taken in by Australian- Ethopian community. Rory: Rory makes it simple to connect with a healthcare professional online, and see if personalized prescription skincare treatment is right for you. Go to hellorory.com/NATCP to try the nightly defense for just $5. It’s free to chat with the doctor, and your first order is just $5!

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Not Another True Crime presents the third installment of the 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. On this week’s episode, Bryan leads us through the family history of one of the most powerful dynasties in American history, the Bush family. First, they talk about the origins of the family’s wealth and power. Next, they discuss the many scandals and highlights of President George H.W. Bush’s political career. Plus, they talk about how nepotism led George W. Bush to walk in his father’s footsteps (and copy his playbook along the way). Finally, they close things out with a game of “Bush or Bull” featuring a collection of surprising facts about the Bush family.

This week Sara and Danny are joined by “Big Brother” alum, podcast host and armchair conspiracy theorist, Kat Dunn. They discuss the conspiracy rabbit holes that Kat’s fallen into during quarantine, new details emerging in the #FreeBritney conservatorship and the most scandalous tea from this season of “Big Brother”.

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NATCP presents the second installment of this 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. On this week’s episode, our hosts are talking about two of the most storied families in Hollywood history. First, Alicia examines the Barrymore family, from their roots as acting royalty in the late 19th century all the way to Drew Barrymore’s rise to stardom. Next, Bryan talks about the Disney family and how the descendants of Walt and Roy Disney continue to reap the benefits of their labor to this day. Finally, they close things out with another round of Do You Know Who My Dad Played, all about actors whose famous lineage might surprise you.

By popular demand, Sara and Danny cover a ripped-from-the-headlines case that seems made up. But it’s not! Flordelis, a gospel singer-turned-politician, is accused of murdering her husband, with the help of about 10 of her 55 kids. Not a typo. You can’t make this shit up.

NATCP presents an 8-episode limited series exposing the connections you never knew existed: Do You Know Who My Dad Is? explores dynastic nepotism and the effects it has on media, culture, and our current political system. Hosts Bryan Russell Smith and Alicia Angeles are talking all about the privilege that leads inexperienced and unaccomplished children of powerful people to get ahead. On this week’s episode, our hosts are talking about influencers. First, Bryan examines the rise of Cara Delevingne as a model, actress and influencer, sharing just how far back in history her powerful family can be traced. Next, Alicia talks about the ascension of the Hadid sisters, and how their wealthy and influential parents helped them get where they are today. Finally, they close things out with a game of Do You Know Who My Dad Played, all about actors whose parents gave them a leg up.

In the conclusion of the chilling Delphi murders investigation, Sara, Casey and Danny break down their theories on who the killer may be and the details that have the public believing that we may soon see justice for the victims.

In part one of this highly requested two part episode, Sara, Casey and Danny examine the Delphi Murders, aka the snapchat murders. They discuss the origin stories of Libby German and Abby Williams, the odd and unusual crime scene that one was discovered, and the suspects that fit the description of the killer.

Sara, Casey and Danny are back and they made a friend, best selling author, Karin Slaughter! They discuss, the differences between writing a stand alone novel and a series, why being told that "writing like a man" is an insult and what the world can expect from her new book "The Silent Wife". Karin also breaks down the common misconceptions about the American prison system.

This week Sara, Casey and Danny bring you a breakdown of some of the wildest music based conspiracy theories. We’re talking Avril Lavigne dying and being replaced by a body double named Melissa, Lady Gaga murdering an up-and-coming artist named Lina Morgana, and whether or not Paul McCartney has been dead since 1967.

In the conclusion of macabre Manson family saga, Sara, Casey and Danny break down the aftermath of the Tate/La Bianca murders including Manson's sentencing, the family's push for appeals, and whether or not the murder's depiction in pop culture is disrespectful to the victim's families.

In part 1 of a grizzly 2-parter, we finally tackle the Manson Family and the Tate-LaBianca murders. We start off discussing Manson's early life and how the Family came to be. Expect lots of WTF moments and a few celeb cameos

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In part two of this chaotic deep dive, Casey, Danny, & Sara wind down the tale of the Sarah Lawrence cult and the fate of Larry Ray. They also give their insight on Tom Cruise's alleged scheme to draft Suri into Scientology after her 18th birthday.

In part one of this two part deep dive, Casey, Danny, & Sara discuss the shocking article in The Cut about Larry Ray and his influence on a group of Sarah Lawrence students

This week Sara, Danny and Casey are joined by Christine Schiefer and Em Schulz of the “And That’s Why We Drink” podcast. They discuss what it takes to become a paranormal investigator, why fans of true crime would love the paranormal , and what wines are a perfect pair with your favorite ghost stories.

This week Sara, Casey and Danny are joined by Criminal Defense and Civil Rights lawyer, Ron Kuby. They discuss the American justice system and why it’s so flawed, just how practical the idea of defunding the NYPD is, and what it takes to get a wrongfully convicted man out of prison.

We start off the episode by talking about the murder of Fahim Saleh, a tech CEO who was found killed in his Lower East Side apartment. We give brief updates on the #FreeBritney situation. Then we unpack one of the so-called "mysteries" from Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries, the death of Alonzo Brooks. Sources https://www.insider.com/fahim-saleh-assistant-used-credit-card-after-ceos-death-report-2020-7 https://nypost.com/2020/07/19/dismembered-tech-ceos-assistant-pleads-not-guilty-to-horrid-murder/ Netflix unsolved mysteries, episode 4 https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/netflixs-next-unsolved-mysteries-updates-ghosts-1234703225/ https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/us/alonzo-brooks-exhumed-unsolved-mysteries-trnd/index.html https://gardnernews.com/100000-reward-for-information-on-brooks-death/ https://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/20/nyregion/syracuse-medical-examiner-agrees-to-quit-after-inquiry.html https://www2.ljworld.com/news/public-safety/2018/dec/23/former-douglas-county-coroner-relocates-again/ https://www.syracuse.com/news/2012/07/convicted_of_murdering_a_nurse.html https://www.syracuse.com/news/2019/07/estate-of-hector-rivas-who-died-awaiting-murder-retrial-sues-da-medical-examiner.html https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/fbi-u-s-attorney-announce-100000-reward-in-cold-case-of-alonzo-brooks/

This week Sara, Casey and Danny dive into one of the great celeb conspiracy theories of our time, the Britney Spears Conservatorship. The NATCP crew break down the players behind the scenes, the details behind what a conservatorship actually entails and and whether or not we really need to free Britney. Also we got the court date wrong, it’s July 22. Sorry! Sources: https://www.today.com/popculture/free-britney-2020-what-know-about-movement-spears-conservatorship-t186642 https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/britney-spears-dad-admits-relationship-has-always-been-strained/ https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-britney-spears-conservatorship-freebritney-movement-2020-2 https://www.ochealthinfo.com/bhs/mhi/id#:~:text=5150%20is%20the%20number%20of,or%20herself%2C%20or%20gravely%20disabled. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-17/britney-spears-conservatorship-free-britney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_(Britney_Spears_song)#Background_and_composition https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/02/01/court-places-britney-spears-under-temporary-conservatorship-of-her-father/ http://www.mtv.com/news/1580917/britney-spears-lawyer-ejected-from-courtroom-after-judge-doesnt-recognize-him-as-her-counsel/ http://www.mtv.com/news/1583093/britney-spears-gets-an-allowance-asks-to-reduce-kevin-federlines-legal-bills/ https://www.welt.de/english-news/article2643137/Spears-conservatorship-extended-indefinitely.html https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/britney-to-stay-under-her-dads-control-322902 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1081507/Britney-Spears-father-granted-permanent-control-financial-affairs.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/arts/music/britney-spears-conservatorship-mental-health.html https://www.etonline.com/britney-spears-conservatorship-is-extended-until-august-145870 https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-17/britney-spears-conservatorship-free-britney

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This week Sara, Danny and Casey return from the weirdest 4th of July ever to toast a pino grigio shot to the end of fireworks season. They begin by giving an update in the still developing Vanessa Guillen case. Next they break down the Ghislane Maxwell backstory and how Yolanda Hadid possibly fits into the equation. Later they discuss the very fishy investigation in Anguilla over the poisoning of Casey MacPherson-Pomeroy and Caleb Guillory. SOURCES https://ktvl.com/news/local/two-men-poisoned-and-killed-off-the-coast-of-st-martin https://people.com/crime/men-died-mysteriously-island-paradise/ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/07/01/2056557/0/en/People-Magazine-Cover-Story-Exposes-Death-of-Two-Americans-in-Shocking-and-Suspicious-Circumstances-in-Anguilla.html https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-campc https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/fort-hood-soldier-vanessa-guillen-remains-found.html https://betches.com/jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-madam-ghislaine-maxwell-has-been-arrested/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-ghislaine-maxwell-prison/crushing-experience-awaits-ghislaine-maxwell-at-troubled-jail-idUSKBN2472LN

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Casey, Danny, and Sara break down a true (alleged) scammer, Jesse James Francis Clark, who would (allegedly) scam brides... allegedly. Sources: https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/you-are-nothing-attorney-nicholas-frye-nothing-a43e5a893c85 https://www.jessejohnfrancisclark.com/ https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/couples-claim-photographer/1904072/ https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/use-your-haters-as-fuel-for-success-c8e67d7d9947 https://www.telegram.com/news/20200602/lawyer-begs-mass-attorney-general-for-criminal-case-against-wedding-videographer https://turtleboysports.com/meet-charltons-jesse-john-francis-clark-career-scam-artist-photographer-who-mocked-grieving-client-on-what-wouldve-been-wedding-date-after-refusing-to-refund-money-when-fiance-died-makes-up-suic/ https://je3814.wixsite.com/ninjamonkeyweddings/single-post/2016/09/15/Jesse-Clark--The-videographer-every-bride-should-know-about https://www.telegram.com/article/20130426/NEWS/104269782 http://archive.boston.com/business/personalfinance/consumeralert/2013/06/wedding_video_company_owner_or.html https://jessejclarkvictims.wordpress.com/ https://www.telegram.com/article/20130426/NEWS/104269782 http://archive.boston.com/business/personalfinance/consumeralert/2013/06/wedding_video_company_owner_or.html

We start off the episode by discussing the disappearance of Vanessa Guillen, who went missing from Fort Hood in April. Then we talk about the mysterious fireworks that have been (literally) popping off across the country, and delve into some theories about what it all means. Sources: https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/why-are-so-many-fireworks-going-off.html https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/6/22/21298912/firework-complaints-northeastern-cities https://twitter.com/AnneMarcelleN/status/1274540444253388800 https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/fdny-firefighters-light-off-illegal-fireworks-in-brooklyn/ https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bombing-reconciliation-philadelphia https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/10/when-i-was-mayor-philadelphia-bombed-civilians-its-time-for-the-city-to-apologise https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/n-c-police-chief-apologizes-after-video-shows-officers-destroying-n1225716 https://abc7ny.com/july-4-4th-of-macys-new-york-city/6261681/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pallets-of-bricks-protest-sites/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puzzling-number-men-tied-ferguson-protests-have-died-n984261 https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06/23/mayor-de-blasio-forms-illegal-fireworks-task-force-to-go-after-suppliers-in-huge-sting-operation/ https://www.insider.com/vanessa-guillen-fort-hood-disappearance-army-suspects-foul-play-2020-6

The theme this week is “don’t just throw your money at organizations without doing a little due diligence”. We talk one probable scam and one case of mixed up identity. First it’s Plant A Tree Co, a big IG page that claims to plant a tree for every product purchased on their site... but do they really? Then we talk about a confusingly named foundation that fooled companies like Google, Apple, and Microsoft into donating millions for the wrong cause

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This week, we go in a slightly different direction by unpacking the concept of Missing White Woman syndrome and highlighting three separate cases (of many) that illustrate this disparity. Then the NATC crew provides some much-requested updates to 2 cases we've previously discussed: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell (the missing Idaho kids) and Madeleine McCann.

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Not Another True Crime Podcast will not be releasing an episode this week.

Special note: We record our episodes on a delay, meaning we're at least 1 week behind in current events. That said, we went back to the future this week to discuss Betty Broderick, the inspiration behind the new season of Dirty John, called Dirty John: Betty. First of all, we touch on how dumb of a title that is. But then we get into the details of what caused Betty Broderick to snap and kill her ex-husband and his new wife. We also discuss our Queen, Hilary Duff, getting dragged into the Q Anon conspiracy, and attempt to make sense of it all. Sources: https://www.latimes.com/la-me-broderick3jun0390-story.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/hilary-duff-debunks-qanon-esque-rumor-she-tried-to-sell-her-own-son-luca-cruz-comrie https://www.tvinsider.com/928642/betty-broderick-dirty-john-season-two-crime-story/ https://www.distractify.com/p/betty-broderick-children-today https://www.latimes.com/la-broderick-sg-storygallery.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150209235944/http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/broderick/1.html http://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/broderick-betty.htm

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NATCP tackles the life and crimes of D. Gary Young, the founder of Young Living Essential Oils. Even before starting what is now a giant MLM company, Young was no stranger to sketchiness. We break down his upbringing and run-ins with the law, then go into the ins and outs of Young Living essential oils. Sources: State v. Young , 37 Wn. App. 1061 (Wash. App. June 6, 1984) https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19821017&id=rvlLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2e4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3079%2C675647&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830309&id=6dkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=1520,3981858 https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/d-_gary-young-19492018-diploma-mill-naturopath-and-promoter-of-essential-oi/ https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830310&id=6tkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7124,4646687&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1345&dat=19861028&id=gDFkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yfkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1732,2469702&hl=en https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-10-23-mn-10747-story.html https://www.dgaryyoung.com/blog/2015/rosarito-beach-years-10/ https://quackwatch.org/cases/ag/ut/tarwater/conclusions/ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-essential-oils-became-the-cure-for-our-age-of-anxiety https://web.archive.org/web/20171017122054/http:/www.dgaryyoung.com:80/d-gary-young-about.php https://quackwatch.org/consumer-education/nonrecorg/bernadean/ http://bernadeanuniversity.tripod.com/ https://www.youngliving.com/en_US/opportunity/income-disclosure https://www.doterra.com/US/en/judge-awards-doterra-legal-fees https://www.youngliving.com/blog/what-is-young-living-therapeutic-grade/

Casey, Danny, and Sara bullsh*t about life in quarantine before diving into the mysterious disappearance of Jennifer Kesse. The 24-year-old Orlando woman went missing on her way to work on January 24, 2006, and basically vanished into thin air. We go into the few details there are about Jennifer's disappearance and recent updates, and of course tell you who we think did it. http://charleyproject.org/case/jennifer-joyce-kesse https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/family-refuses-give-search-jennifer-kesse-who-vanished-14-years-n1122296 http://blinkoncrime.com/category/jennifer-kesse/

After being inspired by HBO's Bad Education starring Hugh Jackman, Allison Janney, and Ray Romano, Sara, Danny, and Casey decide to delve into what really happened in the Roslyn school district in 2004. From flights to face lifts, superintendent Frank Tassone managed to quietly swindle millions of dollars from taxpayers to fund his lavish lifestyle. We don't hate it! We break down how everyone involved got away with the embezzlement, talk about how Bad Education stacks up against the real story, and discuss where everyone is now. We also read a listener letter from a fan who worked for a scam shampoo company. RoboKiller: Stop spam calls. Head to robokiller.com/NATC on your mobile device now to download the app and get RoboKiller free for 7 days

Proving once again that the 1970s were a lawless time where you could literally get away with murder, we’re examining the life and crimes of Rodney Alcala aka the Dating Game Killer. Alcala killed scores of women in the late 70s and also appeared on (and won) the Dating Game TV show in the middle of his killing spree. Smh.

Sources https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/dating-game-killer-rodney-alcala-podcast-wondery-trailer-959138/ https://www.oxygen.com/mark-of-a-killer/crime-time/who-is-serial-killer-rodney-alcala-and-how-did-he-win-the-dating-gamehttps://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/flashback-serial-killer-appears-on-the-dating-game-mid-spree-192077/https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/long-road-road-to-justice-in-case-of-serial-killer-alcala.htmlhttps://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/orange-county-jury-recommends-death-for-alcala-for-third-time.htmlhttps://www.history.com/news/serial-killer-dating-game-rodney-alcalahttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-serialkiller/dating-game-killer-sentenced-for-1970s-murders-idUSBRE9060S020130107https://people.com/archive/the-eye-of-a-killer-vol-73-no-15/

What's black and white and covered in a purple shroud? The members of the Heaven's Gate cult after their ritualized mass suicide, which occurred in 1997 and was the largest mass suicide on U.S. soil. Casey, Danny, and Sara will take you through the cult's beginnings, their out-of-this-world beliefs, and its tragic end for 39 of its members. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/heavens-gate-cult-members-found-dead https://www.britannica.com/topic/Heavens-Gate-religious-group#ref700331 https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/heavens-gate-20-years-later-10-things-you-didnt-know-114563/ https://www.salon.com/2014/11/15/anatomy_of_a_mass_suicide_the_dark_twisted_story_behind_a_ufo_death_cult/ https://redditblog.com/2015/10/03/an-interview-with-the-heavens-gate-webmaster-meet-telah-61/ https://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/29/us/from-religious-childhood-to-reins-of-a-ufo-cult.html

Westfield, NJ strikes again. The quaint affluent NJ town that brought us The Watcher (in a previous ep) was also home to a grisly murder committed by John List. List brutally murdered his entire family, and then went on the run for almost 18 years. With the help of a good ol' program called America's Most Wanted, he was finally apprehended.

It's the docuseries sensation that's sweeping the nation, so of course the NATC fam is here to talk about motherf*cking TIGER KING! Did Joe put out a hit on Carole? Did Carole kill her husband Don and feed him to the tigers? Is Jeff Lowe the shadiest man alive? Who wasn't on meth here? We grapple with all these questions, and a hell of a lot more.

In a world pre-COVID-19 social distancing (remember that?), the NATC crew sat down to talk about the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley. The then-23-year-old took a cruise with her family to the Caribbean, and after a night of dancing with one of the ship's musicians, disappeared. Sara, Casey, and Danny break down what happened right after Amy disappeared, how the cruise handled it (or, more accurately, didn't), discuss the many sightings that have happened in the years since her disappearance, and share their theories. Check out "Made Women'----> https://link.chtbl.com/madewomen_MR_01 Sources: https://thehueandcry.com/missing/amy-lynn-bradley/ https://www.drphil.com/slideshows/the-search-for-natalee-amy-bradley/ https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/09/cruise-into-darkness-the-bizarre-disappearance-of-amy-bradley/

While Casey is out of town, Danny and Sara are joined by a very special guest host: Harlan Coben! The NYT best-selling author of many thrillers including The Stranger, Run Away, and Don't Let Go helps us break down the twisted tale of Bruce Hay, the Harvard professor who got caught in an alleged fake paternity plot with two women. It's a wild ride, trust us. Be sure to watch Coben's new Netflix series, The Stranger, and buy his new book, The Boy From The Woods, out March 17.Sources: https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider.html https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider-follow-up.html

Sara, Casey & Danny continue coverage of the Casey Anthony case. If you haven't listened to part 1, GO LISTEN NOW! This week, they cover the trial that swept the nation, the verdict, and what we really think happened to Caylee. Sources: https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/casey-anthony-trial-fast-facts/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/justice/florida-casey-anthony/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-anthony/on-911-call-casey-anthony-said-tot-was-missing-for-31-days-idUSTRE74U5W720110531 https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-08-26-3825124179_x.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20110604005437/http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26558545/ https://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-completes-probation/story?id=17072180 https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/19/casey.anthony.judge.quits/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011634/Casey-Anthony-trial-How-tot-mom-partied-Caylee-went-missing.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190626023533/https://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/30/florida.casey.anthony.trial/

Settle in for a very special two-part episode where we tackle the Casey Anthony case that everyone’s been asking us to cover. Ask and you shall receive! This week, we cover Caylee’s disappearance and Casey’s many changing stories. And stay tuned for next week when we talk about the trial, and of course, whodunit.

This week we’re talking another MLM pyramid scheme, Monat. That’s the shampoo one that’s recently been hit with multiple class action lawsuits for allegedly causing scalp sores, hair loss, and a whole lot of other issues. It ain’t pretty.

NATC is going ripped from the headlines this week to investigate the whereabouts of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, who have been missing since September from Rexburg, Idaho. Danny, Sara & Casey walk through the twisted web that is this family tree, complete with multiple “suspicious” deaths and a cult. Shouts out to East Idaho news for a very clutch & thorough timeline of this crazy case.

Brace yourself, NATC fam, because this episode isn't for the faint of heart. We're going across the pond to discuss the crimes of Fred and Rose West, which include child abuse, rape, murder, and that's not even the half of it. Casey, Danny, and Sara talk about Fred's upbringing and early crimes, all the way up to him meeting his second wife Rose and building a literal house of horrors. Sources: https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/fred-west https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6998695/fred-rose-west-victims-buried/ https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Fred_and_Rosemary_West https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1219527/fred-west-news-rose-west-new-year-murderer-revolting-final-request-spt

We know you're dying of FOMO, so here's everything you missed at the Not Another True Crime Podcast live show at Union Hall. We played "Killer First Date" where we impersonated one podcast subject and made an audience member guess our identities, and shared some audience Super Secret Serial Killer traits. Danny, Casey & Sara also covered the infamous "malicious wounding" case of Lorena and John Bobbitt.

Everyone has been going crazy for Netflix's Killer Inside: The Mind Of Aaron Hernandez, so the investigative detectives who make up the elite squad known as the Not Another True Crime Podcast hosts are on this one. Hernandez was many things: a pothead, a star footballer, a regulation hottie, and really, really bad at getting away with murder. Casey, Danny, and Sara discuss Hernandez's brief but dramatic fall from grace as well as the Netflix documentary that everyone's talking about.

This week's topic is a deep cut straight out of France: Jean-Claude Romand. This story has everything: a con artist, a pyramid scheme, a spree killer, and arson. Moral of the story: just get a job, it's way easier than lying to your friends & family for 18 years

You all asked for it, none of the hosts wanted it, but we do it for the fans so this week we're tackling Don't F*** With Cats, the Netflix docuseries about Luka Magnotta. First, Danny, Casey and Sara read a letter from one listener who saw something sketchy on the internet and became a one-woman FBI squad. Then they get into the documentary and talk about the most shocking and disturbing parts, what they think of the Facebook Group detectives, and if they think Manny Lopez is real (lol).

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In part two of the Laci Peterson murder episode, Danny, Casey, and Sara talk about Scott Peterson's trial, all the evidence (or lack thereof) the state had against him, plus all the shenanigans that went down in the media and in jury deliberation. It's the final episode of 2019, so we also spitball what other cases we want to cover in 2020.

In part one of a two-part episode, the NATC fam is talking about the case that put Nancy Grace on the map: the murder of Laci Peterson. Fittingly, Laci went missing on December 24, 2002 and was found dead in April 2003. This week, we are going over Laci's final moments and talking about Scott's sketchiness. Then stay tuned for next week when we cover the trial and our theories!

With Casey out sick, Sara and Danny are back to talk pyramid schemes—specifically, LuLaRoe, the infamous leggings multilevel marketing company. Over the last couple years they have faced a class action lawsuit, were kicked out of the National Down Syndrome Society, failed to pay bills (same), and were sued a few more times. Not only do they design visually haunting leggings, but they also steal your money. Sara and Danny give tips on how to avoid getting duped. Check out the brand new podcast Blood Ties from Wondery: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1484142154

This week, the NATCP team went down under to one of the craziest cases in Australia. Kathleen Folbigg is one of the most notorious serial killers, who is spending over 30 years for killing her four kids. Should be an open and shut case, but is it?

The NATC team is back with a Wait, What? covering the new Netflix documentary Bikram: Yogi, Guru, Predator. To start they show, they’re joined by NATC producer Sean Kilby to discuss Bikram’s alleged abuses, the popularity of hot yoga, and how this story mirrors other tales of sexual exploitation. Then they’re joined by the director of the documentary herself, Eva Orner, to discuss how the abuses came to light and what’s next in the quest for justice.

Everybody's favorite podcast hosts are back to talk about another murder: Greggory Smart. In May 1990, he was found dead, and later it came out that his wife, Pamela, conspired with her 15-year-old lover (gross) Billy and his friends to murder her husband. Pre-O.J., pre-Menendez brothers, Pamela Smart's trial was the first trial to be televised gavel to gavel. In other words, it was a big f*cking deal. The only twist? To this day, Pam insists she had nothing to do with the murder plot. We'll go through all the details and discuss if we believe Pamela Smart or think she's full of shit

NATCP finally covers one of the most demanded mysteries: the death of Elisa Lam. The 21-year-old disappeared while staying at the infamously sketchy Hotel Cecil, and was later found dead in the hotel's water tank. But did she end up there willingly, or was there foul play? That's what Sara, Danny, and Casey attempt to figure out this week.

We covered these cases, and now it's time for updates! Casey, Danny & Sara discuss Natalia the Ukranian orphan's interview with Dr. Phil, the casting for Netflix's Anna Delvey series, the news surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's suicide (he was murdered), and other true crime updates that are currently in the news. They also play a new game Casey made up called "psychopath or genius".

It's our first ever pyramid scheme episode! The NATC fam tackles WTF went down with Advocare, a multilevel marketing company that recently got shut down by the FTC for being a pyramid scheme.

Casey is in Paris living her best life this week, so Danny and Sara are talking about Samuel Little, a man who the FBI just declared the most prolific serial killer in US history with 50 confirmed murders. Sara and Danny talk serial killer traits, then provide a bio on Little and discuss his M.O.

Danny, Sara, and Casey interview CAROLINE F*CKING CALLOWAY. They discuss mental health and the right and wrong ways to talk about it. They obviously also talk alllllll about the article Natalie Beach wrote for The Cut. Caroline reveals what everyone got wrong about her so-called "scam" seminars, what Natalie misrepresents in The Cut, and hints at what's in the works for the future for both her and Natalie. If you want to check out "Bad Batch" by Wondrey, click the link below! wondery.fm/BadBatchNATC

In a literal dream come true, Danny and Sara sit down to interview Alexis Haines, aka Alexis Neiers of the Bling Ring and Pretty Wild fame. She dishes on what ACTUALLY happened during the Bling Ring and what everybody gets wrong, and on her feud with Nancy Jo Sales and if there's ever a chance at reconciliation. Alexis also discusses her own recovery from heroin addiction and talks about what she's doing to help other who are suffering from addiction.

The story of Natalia Grace is literally a real-life horror movie—specifically, Orphan, which came out in 2009. Kristine and Michael Barnett thought they adopted a 6-year-old from Ukraine in 2010, but things were not what they seemed. The Barnetts claim that their adopted daughter, Natalia Grace, was actually a disturbed 22-year-old who tried to kill them. Sara, Danny, and Casey give the lowdown on this insane story.

The NATCP gang is finally covering Canada's most killer couple, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. Warning: this episode is not for the faint of heart (or stomach). Paul and Karla's crimes were especially heinous, to borrow from Law & Order: SVU. If you thought you had a f*cked up relationship... just wait till you hear about this killer couple.

The NATC crew takes on America's "first female serial killer", Aileen Wuornos—and discusses why that characterization is not really accurate. Aileen's life was a roller coaster, and Danny, Casey, and Sara take you through it, from a horrible upbringing to a marriage to a yacht club president to finally murdering 7 men in Florida. Then they play a new game involving their last meals on earth.

We interrupt our regularly scheduled program of true crime to explain what’s going on with Caroline Calloway, the influencer who was accused of running a scam in early 2019. It all started with an essay in The Cut last week by Caroline’s former friend and ghost writer. Sara, Casey, and Danny explain who Caroline Calloway is and why people care about her, plus give the lowdown of the drama that’s happened over the past week.

It sounds too shady to be true, but somehow it is. Rebecca Zahau, girlfriend of millionaire Jonah Shacknai, was found with her hands and feet bound, naked. Her death was ruled a suicide but many, including her family, don’t think that’s the whole story. Danny Casey And sara go over all the strange circumstances surrounding her tragic death and of course the theories. Check out "Over MY Dead Body" by Wondery! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/over-my-dead-body/id1447892344

The NATC crew tackles the mysterious Westfield Watcher, the case where a NJ family moved into their dream home... but that dream quickly turned to a nightmare when they started receiving creepy letters. Not everyone believes The Watcher is real, notably, the Westfield residents think it’s all a hoax. Casey, Danny, and Sara attempt to get to the bottom of it, and also tell stories of their worst roommate/apartment horrors.

Nazis, a secret society, the apocalypse? What do all these things have in common? They are all linked to the Denver International Airport. Sara, Danny, and Casey discuss all the conspiracy theories surrounding the airport, from the suspect shape to the weird-ass art to the mysterious tunnels, and more.

The NATC Pod crew teams up with the godmother of true crime, Nancy Grace, host of Truth and Justice with Nancy Grace on Oxygen. They talk Jodi Arias, Scott Peterson, why we worship serial killers, and a whole lot more. Plus Nancy gives her best tips on how not to get murdered!

Sara, Casey, and Danny are back with another cult. This time they’re breaking down one of the worst mass murders in American history, the Jonestown massacre. They will talk through how it began and how everything went south so quickly for the Peoples Temple.

Sara, Danny, and Casey sit down with Rachel DeLoache Williams, former Vanity Fair photo editor and author of My Friend Anna, out now. They discuss what Anna Delvey/Sorokin was really like and what Rachel learned from getting scammed by her so-called “friend”. They also discuss how Rachel feels about Anna’s public perception and what’s next for her (think: HBO special).

Danny, Sara, and Casey finally break down I Love You, Now Die, the new HBO documentary about the death of Conrad Roy III and trial of Michelle Carter. Or as you may know it, the texting suicide case. They discuss what everybody got wrong in the initial press coverage back in 2014, the wildest parts of the documentary (Glee, anybody), and the most recent updates on Michelle's jail time.

The NATC Pod crew tackles one of the most requested cases from the fans: the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell. This case has everything: Mormons, a creepy father-in-law, pancakes, a missing woman, and a horrifying twist. Casey, Danny, and Sara break down the case and share their theories as to what happened to Susan. They also play a new game called “my habit that would get me murdered by a serial killer”.

In this crossover episode with the Betches Sup podcast, Sara teams up with Sami Fishbein, co-founder of Betches, and Amanda Duberman, Betches News & Politics Editor. They break down the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, from his first arrest to now, and discuss why they think he ran an underage sex pyramid scheme. This one has everything: sex trafficking, a rich guy whose source of wealth is a complete mystery, high-profile figures like Donald Trump and Prince Andrew, and more crazy sh*t you can't even imagine.

Literally nobody asked for it, but Casey, Danny, and Sara cover the conspiracy theory that the moon landing was faked. They go over the "evidence" that it was all filmed in a Hollywood studio, with expert commentary from a history teacher (Sara's brother) on why the U.S. would even go through the trouble to fake going to the moon in the first place

Danny, Casey, and Sara start this episode off by trying one of the fans’ super secret serial killer trait, and boy is it a scary one. Then in this three-for-one episode, they tackle 3 different people who died on their honeymoons. Did their new spouses kill them, or were these horrible accidents?

The NATC Pod crew covers NXIVM, the alleged sex cult/pyramid scheme started by Keith Raniere, that came to light in 2018 when he and Smallville actress Allison Mack were arrested. Casey, Sara, and Danny tell you how NXIVM started and the crazy, gross things the members had to do. Plus, Casey gives great insight as to how people fall victim to cults in the first place, since she was basically in one.

In this ripped-from-the-headlines episode, Danny, Casey, and Sara explore the Hollywood Ripper, the man currently on trial for allegedly killing three women and attempting to murder another. You've probably heard that Ashton Kutcher is involved somehow, but this case goes way deeper than that.

In what sounds like the beginning of a bad joke, Ohio State medical student Brian Shaffer walked into a bar... and was never seen again. While Danny is on vacation, Casey and Sara walk through Brian’s last known moments and the most plausible theories as to what happened to him. They’re also joined by Kevin Gannon, a retired NYPD detective who investigated Brian’s disappearance and believes it may be connected to other cases.

Happy Memorial Day, NATC listeners! In this special Wait, What? Casey, Danny, and Sara talk about Extremely Wicked, Shockingly Evil & Vile, or otherwise known as "the movie where Zac Efron plays Ted Bundy". They talk about their impressions of the movie and why it ultimately fell flat. They also give background into the gruesome nature of Ted Bundy's crimes, which is more than the movie can say.

Putting the 'crazy' in 'crazy killer', Jodi Arias murdered her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander in the shower, and took pictures of the entire thing. Casey, Danny, and Sara go through Jodi's life and her and Travis's toxic relationship. They discuss the most shocking details from Jodi's trial, which was a legit media circus, and give some piping hot updates on Jodi, straight from the Arizona prison where she is currently serving a life sentence.

The Bling Ring has everything any good true crime story from 2009 should have: reality TV stars, movie stars, more reality TV stars, and a bunch of dumb teenagers. We still have so many questions that need to be answered... Who was really the ring leader? Does the movie adaptation do the story justice? How good was Paris Hilton’s cocaine? And where is Alexis Neiers now? Follow along as Sara, Danny, and Casey walk us through all the juicy details from this now-infamous story of burglary and betrayal.

Everybody has that one ride-or-die chick in their life that they’d do just about anything for. But how far are you willing to go before enough is enough? That’s the theme of this week’s episode as we discuss the brand new Netflix Original Series Dead to Me (starring Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini). Sara, Danny, and Casey react to the first episode with a spoiler-free conversation on what they did (and didn’t) see coming. Then it’s time to dive into the baffling true crime story of Heather Miller, a woman who turned to her friends to help murder her husband, but it turns out those friends weren’t so ride-or-die. Misery just found company, and its name is Heather Miller.

Due to popular demand, the NATC Pod gang is doing a deep dive into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a 3-year-old British girl who went missing while on vacation with her family in Portugal. They discuss what happened the night she went missing, the shitshow of an investigation (@ Portugal Police), and share theories of what could have happened to her. They also debunk common misconceptions about this case and debate whether watching the entire Netflix documentary on the topic was worth it.

Continuing on the trend of millennial scammers, Sara, Casey, and Danny discuss Elizabeth Holmes, the Silicon Valley scammer who founded Theranos, a blood-testing company that was supposed to revolutionize the healthcare industry. Only... none of it was real. Find out how this blonde with a fake baritone voice convinced tech world giants to invest in a product that didn't exist, and what she's up to now. (Hint: likely jail time.)

Remember a time before a disappearance would send everyone down social media rabbit holes? Us either, but Maura Murray’s disappearance was one of the first. The 20-year-old nursing student vanished without a trace days after Facebook launched, making it one of the most well-known and frustrating cases of the 2000s.

NATCP is back for Season 2 with a new format and a new trio of co-hosts: Sara Levine, Danny Murphy, and Casey Balsham. For our first episode we’re tackling Soho scammer Anna Delvey, a fake Russian socialite who cheated Manhattan’s elite out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Honestly, she’s kind of our icon. Starting at 6:23, find out what she did, how she almost got away with it, and how it all came crashing down.

What's better than a conspiracy theory or a murder? A conspiracy theory combined with a murder! Sara talks to retired NYPD Detectives Kevin Gannon, Anthony Duarte, and Mike Donovan about the Smiley Face Killers, who they believe are an organized gang targeting white college-aged men. Here's the deal. Not everyone is convinced the scores of young men who have drowned over the past 12 years are connected, even though Gannon, Duarte, and Donovan argue that the writing is on the wall—literally. After investigating each case, they claim they've found distinct smiley face graffiti near all the locations where the bodies were found. So what is the truth? Listen to the interview and decide for yourself, then tune in to Smiley Face Killers: The Hunt For Justice on January 19 on Oxygen.

This extremely special bonus episode features John Thrasher and Daryn Carp of Oxygen Media's Martinis & Murder podcast! Hannah, Sara, Daryn, and John share their theories on who killed JonBenét Ramsey, discuss which unsolved mysteries keep them up at night (and how they sleep after researching murder for days on end), and the real crimes they have personal connections to. Oh, and this is all while drinking mimosas. It's a fun ride... cheers, betch!

The JonBenét Ramsey coverage continues with part two, where we go through the police investigation into JonBenét’s murder, the Ramseys’ weird af attitude towards the media and the police, and finally, the moment you’ve all been waiting for. Wait for it—the theories on who killed JonBenét Ramsey. Will Hannah and Sara solve this famous case? Listen to find out.

You all asked for it, and you got it—by popular demand, Not Another True Crime Podcast is covering the JonBenét Ramsey murder. This sh*t show of a case is divided into a two-part episode. Part one is all about the actual scene of the crime and what went down at the Ramsey house on Christmas Day, 1996.

On June 3, 2011, Indiana University sophomore Lauren Spierer went out partying with her friends until the wee hours of the morning and never came back. Hannah and Sara walk you through Lauren’s life, up to her final hours, and discuss the main theories about WTF happened to her. Eerily, Lauren wasn’t the first, or the last, IU student to go missing in this college town, which begs the question: WTF is going on in in Bloomington??

Is it possible to not feel bad for a murder victim? Hannah and Sara consider that when discussing the murder of Dee Dee Blanchard, a dedicated mother and caretaker to her disabled daughter, Gypsy Rose… Or was she? This case has more twists than an I. Marlene King drama series, and we’re taking you on this wild ride.

How does a 23-year-old woman up and disappear in the middle of the day? That's what Sara attempts to get to the bottom of in this interview with Shawndrea Thomas, journalist and co-host of the two-night Oxygen special, The Disappearance Of Phoenix Coldon (November 3 & 4 at 7pm EST on Oxygen). Phoenix disappeared in 2011 after going for a drive one afternoon... and hasn't been seen or heard from since. Sara and Shawndrea talk about why Phoenix's case hasn't gotten much media coverage and what's been happening since the disappearance.

Hannah and Sara risk their lives with this episode (okay, not really, but they’re kind of paranoid) when they do a deep dive into Scientology and some of its biggest scandals. And seriously, for a “religion”, they really dabble in the sketch (read: it’s a long episode).

Want to listen to two random girls talk about the Emmy award winning show “Wild Wild Country?” Well you’re in luck. Hannah & Sara talk about this crazy cult that no one really knew about until Netflix and further build your reasoning for avoid salad bars at all costs. Trust us, you’ll understand.

Sara and Hannah FINALLY kick off cult discussions starting with LA-based group called Buddhafield, which is originally pretty tame. Peace, love, all that bullshit. But, after 40 years of living in harmony, things start to get weird. Like, being forced into plastic surgery and performing plays in the middle of the desert weird. Then, things get to be beyond weird and just plain disturbing. Follow along as this group goes from hippy dreams to a legit nightmare.

Princess Diana, “the People’s Princess”, coveted Beanie Baby, and the subject behind the third episode of Not Another True Crime Podcast. All honors, really. In 1997 she passed away in a tragic car accident… or did she? Hannah & Sara discuss common conspiracy theories and whether or not the Royals had anything to do with it.

What do beloved late actress Brittany Murphy and a former Customs and Border Patrol agent have in common? Apparently, a decent amount. Hannah and Sara explore one ~interesting~ conspiracy theory that claims that the government may have had something to do with the death of Brittany Murphy. That’s like, way harsh Tai.

In the newest Betches podcast, hosts Sara Levine and Hannah Perkins talk true crime in the most candid way they can, beginning with a scam that shook millennials to their core—the Fyre Festival. Just when you think musical festivals are safe from crime, you’re wrong. Learn how this sketchy AF event began and how the creator, Billy McFarland, is a high-key, repeat scammer.