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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: TIM LOVELACE: The Power of Storytelling
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
What do comedy, storytelling, songwriting, and faith have in common? According to Tim Lovelace, they're all different expressions of the same creative gift from God.
In this inspiring conversation, John Chisum welcomes Gospel Music Hall of Fame member, comedian, songwriter, musician, and author Tim Lovelace to discuss the creative life. Tim shares his remarkable journey from overcoming childhood stuttering to becoming one of gospel music's most beloved entertainers, revealing how storytelling became the foundation for both his comedy and songwriting.
Together, John and Tim explore why stories connect so deeply with people, how creativity reflects God's nature, and why every songwriter should learn to recognize the meaningful moments happening around them every day. They also discuss Tim's new book Green Rain and his instrumental album On a Different Note, both designed to encourage people to slow down, notice God's fingerprints, and live with greater joy and purpose.
Whether you're writing songs, leading worship, creating art, or simply looking for fresh inspiration, this episode is a powerful reminder that creativity is a calling—and every life has a story worth telling.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Tim Lovelace's journey from songwriter to comedian and storyteller
- How childhood challenges shaped his creative calling
- Why storytelling is essential to songwriting
- Finding inspiration in everyday moments
- Creativity as a reflection of God's image
- The emotional power of melody, harmony, and lyrics
- Why curiosity keeps creativity alive
- Lessons from decades in music ministry
- Tim's new book Green Rain
- Tim's instrumental album On a Different Note
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Creativity isn't limited to artists—it's part of being made in God's image.
- Great songs and great stories both invite people into an emotional experience.
- Songwriters develop the ability to recognize hooks, phrases, and meaningful moments others often miss.
- Music has a unique ability to move people through both words and harmony.
- The best storytellers—and songwriters—pay close attention to everyday life.
- Tim shares how comedy opened unexpected ministry opportunities by breaking down walls with laughter.
- Lifelong curiosity and a willingness to keep learning are essential for creative growth.
- Encouragement, kindness, and authentic storytelling leave lasting impact.
- God often works through ordinary moments that become extraordinary when we pay attention.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songwriting begins long before you write the first lyric. It begins by living with open eyes, a curious heart, and a willingness to notice the stories God is writing all around you. As Tim Lovelace reminds us, creativity is one of God's greatest gifts. The more we embrace it with humility, joy, and purpose, the more our songs—and our lives—can point others to Him.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Tim Lovelace!
https://timlovelace.com/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: Why Do So Many Christian Songs Sound the Same?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
How do you write something fresh when the message of the Gospel never changes?
In the final episode of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series, John explores one of the greatest challenges facing Christian songwriters: communicating timeless biblical truths in ways that feel authentic, engaging, and fresh.
Drawing from decades of songwriting, publishing, and coaching, John explains why creativity isn't about inventing new theology—it's about seeing familiar truths with renewed wonder. He encourages songwriters to cultivate curiosity, embrace silence, fill their creative reservoirs, and continually grow their skills so they have something meaningful to say.
This episode is both a practical lesson in creativity and an inspiring reminder that the best songwriters never stop learning.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Writing timeless truths with fresh perspective
- Why creativity reflects the image of God
- Avoiding clichés in Christian songwriting
- Filling your creative reservoir
- The importance of reading, learning, and experiencing life
- Finding inspiration through silence and observation
- Why curiosity fuels better songs
- Debunking the myth of writer's block
- The value of coaching and continual growth
- Becoming a lifelong student of songwriting
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Timeless Truths Need Fresh Expression
- The Gospel never changes, but the way we communicate it can continually be renewed through creativity, imagination, and thoughtful craftsmanship.
- Creativity Reflects Our Creator
- As image-bearers of God, we were designed to create. Songwriting becomes an opportunity to reflect His nature by communicating eternal truths in meaningful ways.
- Fill Your Creative Well
- Great songs come from full lives. Reading books, listening to great music, studying poetry, experiencing art, traveling, and paying attention to the world around you all contribute to stronger songwriting.
- Silence Creates Space for Inspiration
- Some of the best ideas don't arrive while striving—they emerge during moments of quiet reflection, prayer, and attentive listening.
- Fresh Wonder Defeats Familiarity
- Instead of repeating the same phrases and ideas, ask God to help you see biblical truths through fresh eyes that reconnect listeners with their beauty.
- Writer's Block Is Often a Skill Problem
- Rather than waiting for inspiration, continue developing your craft. Strong songwriting skills give you the tools to write even when inspiration feels distant.
- Never Stop Growing
- The best songwriters remain lifelong learners. Coaching, mentorship, and continual practice create lasting growth that serves both the songwriter and the songs.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
The message of the Gospel is timeless—but your perspective doesn't have to be predictable.
As you continue growing spiritually, creatively, and artistically, God will continually give you new ways to communicate eternal truth. Stay curious. Keep learning. Fill your creative reservoir. And never stop developing the skills that allow inspiration to become songs that truly change lives.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: How Do You Turn a Good Song Into a Great One?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
Why do professional songwriters rewrite nearly every song they write?
In this episode of Song Revolution, John tackles one of the most transformative lessons every songwriter must learn: writing is rewriting. While many beginning writers assume their first draft is exactly how God intended the song to be, experienced writers understand that inspiration is only the starting point.
Drawing from more than 40 years of songwriting, publishing, and mentoring, John explains why critique isn't something to fear, how pride and perfectionism can quietly hinder growth, and why rewriting is one of the greatest tools God uses to strengthen both songs and songwriters.
If you want your songs to communicate more clearly, connect more deeply, and make a lasting impact, this episode offers a powerful invitation to embrace the rewriting process.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Why writing is rewriting
- The difference between inspiration and craftsmanship
- Letting go of first-draft thinking
- Overcoming perfectionism and pride
- Why critique is essential for growth
- Understanding the emotional side of receiving feedback
- The importance of focusing on one big idea
- Developing songwriting skill through practice
- Learning from experienced mentors
- Building songs that communicate clearly and effectively
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Inspiration Starts the Song—Rewriting Finishes It
- God may inspire the first draft, but great songwriting happens through thoughtful editing, refining, and strengthening every line.
- Don't Confuse Your Song with Your Identity
- A song is an expression of your heart—not your worth. Separating yourself from your work makes it much easier to receive helpful feedback.
- Critique Is a Tool, Not a Threat
- Professional writers expect critique because they know it leads to stronger songs. Healthy feedback helps reveal blind spots and sharpen communication.
- Perfectionism Can Stall Growth
- Fear of criticism often disguises itself as perfectionism. Real growth begins when you're willing to share unfinished work and keep improving.
- Focus on One Big Idea
- Strong songs stay centered around a single theme instead of trying to communicate too many ideas at once.
- Skill Comes Through Intentional Practice
- Writing hundreds of songs alone doesn't guarantee improvement. Growth comes from writing, learning, rewriting, and continually developing your craft.
- Great Songwriters Rewrite Quickly Because They've Practiced Well
- Professional writers often finish songs efficiently—not because inspiration comes easier, but because years of practice have developed their instincts and skills.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your first draft is rarely your final destination.
The most impactful songs aren't simply inspired—they're carefully rewritten. As you grow in humility, welcome constructive feedback, and continue sharpening your craft, you'll become the kind of songwriter who can faithfully steward God-given inspiration into songs that truly connect with people. Don't be afraid of the rewrite—it may be where your best song is waiting.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: God Gave Me A Song…Now What?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
Does God really give people songs?
In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John tackles one of the most common—and sometimes misunderstood—phrases in Christian songwriting: "God gave me this song."
Drawing from more than four decades of songwriting, publishing, and mentoring writers, John explains the difference between divine inspiration and artistic craftsmanship. While God may inspire ideas, melodies, or moments of revelation, every songwriter still has the responsibility to develop those ideas into clear, compelling, well-crafted songs.
If you've ever wondered why some songs connect deeply while others never seem to gain traction, this episode offers an encouraging challenge: embrace both the calling and the craft.
EPISODE TOPICS
- What it really means when God gives you a song
- Inspiration versus craftsmanship
- Why great songs require development
- Common mistakes beginning songwriters make
- Learning to focus on one central song idea
- Receiving feedback with humility
- Why growth matters more than talent
- The relationship between calling and skill
- Developing songs that truly connect with listeners
- Becoming a lifelong student of songwriting
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- God Inspires—Songwriters Develop
- Inspiration is a gift, but it isn't the finished product. Great songwriting happens when God-given ideas are refined through intentional craftsmanship.
- Every Great Song Starts as an Idea
- Many songs begin with a genuine moment of inspiration, but they require clarity, structure, editing, and focus before they become effective communication.
- One Song. One Big Idea.
- John emphasizes that one of the biggest weaknesses in new songwriting is trying to communicate too many ideas in a single song. Clear songs are memorable songs.
- Feedback Isn't Rejection
- Professional critique isn't meant to discourage you—it's meant to help your songs become everything they're capable of becoming.
- Calling Requires Commitment
- Feeling called to write isn't the destination; it's the invitation to invest time, energy, and discipline into becoming an excellent communicator.
- Humility Accelerates Growth
- Instead of asking, "Am I good enough?" ask, "Am I willing to grow?" The best songwriters never stop learning.
- God Works Through the Process
- God may plant the inspiration, but He also works through rewriting, coaching, practice, and perseverance to shape both the songwriter and the song.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
God may give you the inspiration—but He also invites you into the process.
The strongest Christian songwriters don't simply rely on moments of inspiration; they faithfully develop their gifts through learning, rewriting, humility, and perseverance. When calling and craftsmanship come together, God can use your songs to encourage, challenge, and impact people for years to come.
Stay teachable. Keep growing. And when God gives you a song, be ready to steward it with excellence.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What Is Music Publishing Really About?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
What is music publishing—and does every songwriter actually need it?
In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues unpacking the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide by diving into one of the most misunderstood areas of the music industry: publishing.
Drawing from more than four decades in Christian music, John shares stories from his own publishing journey, clears up common myths around copyright and ownership, and explains the difference between protecting songs and promoting them.
But at the center of the conversation is a bigger truth: publishing isn't what makes songs matter. Great songs do.
Whether you're just beginning your songwriting journey or trying to understand the next steps after writing a song, this episode offers practical insight into how songs move from inspiration to impact.
EPISODE TOPICS
- What music publishing actually means
- Copyright myths and common misconceptions
- Ownership vs. promotion in publishing
- Why copyright registration isn't your first priority
- The evolution of music distribution and media
- John's early publishing journey in Nashville
- How songs get discovered and recorded
- Building relationships that create opportunities
- Why demos still matter
- Learning through rejection and critique
- The importance of writing unforgettable songs
- Taking the next right step in your songwriting journey
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Publishing Is More Than Paperwork John explains that publishing isn't only about legal ownership—it's also about promotion, exposure, and helping songs find listeners.
- You Already Own What You Create One of the biggest myths John addresses is the fear that someone will immediately steal your song. Songwriters often spend too much energy protecting ideas before developing them.
- Promotion Matters More Than Registration Publishing isn't passive. Great publishers actively connect songs with artists, opportunities, and audiences.
- Relationships Open Doors John shares how his early years in Nashville were built on relationships, persistence, and getting songs into the hands of people who could help move them forward.
- Rejection Can Become Refinement Instead of discouraging him, rejection became one of John's greatest teachers—helping sharpen his instincts for stronger hooks, better lyrics, and better melodies.
- Don't Skip the Demo Stage If you're sharing songs publicly, quality matters. A compelling recording creates trust and gives your song the best opportunity to connect.
- The Song Is Still the Foundation No amount of promotion, publishing knowledge, or marketing strategy can replace a truly great song.
- God Leads Through the Process Songwriting, artistry, production, promotion, and publishing all build on each other—but they begin with faithfully creating and taking the next step.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Don't get distracted by the business before you develop the craft.
Publishing has its place, but great songs are still the starting point. Focus on writing songs that connect emotionally, spiritually, and artistically. Build your catalog. Keep improving. Promote with excellence. And trust God to open doors as you faithfully take the next right step.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: CHRIS CLAYTON: Crafting Songs with a Pastor's Heart
HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
EPISODE SUMMARY
What does it really take to grow as a songwriter in today's music world?
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum and Bryant Urich sit down with songwriter and producer Chris Clayton to unpack songwriting, worship, production, community, and what it means to create songs that genuinely connect.
Chris shares his journey from Dallas to Nashville, how relationships opened unexpected doors, and why writing for the local church continues to shape everything he creates. Together, they explore the tension between inspiration and craft, the importance of rewriting, and why songs often become stronger when we invite others into the process.
Whether you're writing worship songs, pursuing artistry, or simply trying to finish the songs sitting in your journal, this conversation offers practical wisdom and encouragement to help you grow.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Chris Clayton's journey into Nashville songwriting and production
- Working with Matthew West and Story House Collective
- Why local church songwriting still matters
- How co-writing creates stronger songs
- The difference between inspiration and craftsmanship
- Learning to rewrite instead of settling
- Why songs shouldn't be treated as untouchable
- Building healthy creative community
- Independent artists vs. labels in today's music industry
- Extending the life and impact of your songs
- Writing with a pastor's heart and eternal perspective
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Songwriting Starts with Conversation Chris shares how some of the strongest lyrics don't arrive through pressure—they emerge naturally through honest conversations and authentic connection in the writing room.
- Write Until Inspiration Comes Drawing on wisdom from legendary songwriter Tony Wood, the conversation explores the discipline of continuing to create even when inspiration doesn't immediately show up.
- Songs Aren't Precious—People Are One of the standout ideas of the episode: hold songs loosely and value relationships deeply. Community often makes songs stronger.
- Community Over Competition Chris reflects on discovering a culture of encouragement in Nashville and how collaboration—not comparison—has shaped his career.
- Great Songs Take Time Not every song is finished in a single session. Sometimes rewriting, revisiting, and allowing a song to mature creates something far stronger than the original idea.
- Releasing Music Isn't the Finish Line Today, anyone can release music—but stewardship after release is what creates lasting impact. Songs need story, vision, and intentional follow-through.
- Write for Your Church, Not the Charts For worship writers especially, Chris encourages focusing on serving the people in front of you rather than chasing trends or platform success.
- Stay Open to God's Timing Some songs catch fire immediately. Others quietly grow over years. The goal isn't forcing results—it's faithfully creating and trusting God with the outcome.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songwriting isn't about protecting ideas—it's about stewarding them.
Chris reminds us that growth happens when we invite others into the process, embrace rewriting, and stay rooted in community rather than competition. Songs may begin as inspiration, but lasting songs are shaped through craft, humility, collaboration, and trust in God's timing.
Write faithfully. Hold songs loosely. Keep showing up. And let God breathe on what He chooses.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What If the Question Isn't "Am I Good Enough?"
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with a conversation centered on calling—what it means, how to recognize it, and what it actually requires. Drawing from 44 years in Christian music and ministry, John reflects on his own journey from a life-changing encounter with Christ at age 18 to a lifetime of songwriting, worship, artist development, and coaching.
This episode challenges listeners to move beyond simply saying they feel "called" and instead ask whether they are willing to invest the time, growth, discipline, and sacrifice necessary to steward that calling. John explores the difference between talent and training, inspiration and commitment, and encourages songwriters to stop asking, "Am I good enough?" and start asking, "Am I called enough to grow?"
EPISODE TOPICS
- Theme #8 of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide: Calling
- What it means to feel called as a Christian songwriter
- Why calling requires investment and intentionality
- The difference between passion, hobby, and purpose
- John's personal testimony and musical journey
- Why "Am I good enough?" is often the wrong question
- Developing skill alongside spiritual calling
- Learning to prioritize time and eliminate distractions
- Understanding sacrifice and long-term commitment
- Trusting God with the process instead of controlling outcomes
- The responsibility of artists and worship leaders
- Growing spiritually while building creatively
- Discernment, prayer, and seeking wise counsel
- Taking your next right step in songwriting and ministry
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- John shares the story of his dramatic conversion experience at age 18 and how that encounter continues to fuel his songwriting today.
- After thousands of conversations with songwriters, he notes that nearly everyone describes feeling called—but fewer ask what that calling requires.
- The episode introduces a reframing question: not "Am I talented enough?" but "Am I willing to develop what I've been given?"
- John discusses the connection between passion and sacrifice, emphasizing that true passion produces action.
- Listeners are challenged to evaluate how they spend their time and whether their priorities align with their goals.
- John reflects on the reality that growth often comes one step at a time rather than through sudden breakthroughs.
- The conversation explores the difference between writing songs privately and carrying the responsibility of leading people publicly through music.
- John encourages artists to remain spiritually grounded and avoid making ministry about themselves.
- He reminds listeners that God rarely reveals the entire path at once—but faithfully reveals the next step.
- The episode closes with encouragement to seek prayer, counsel, and intentional growth before making major artistic decisions.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Calling is more than inspiration—it is stewardship. If you believe God has placed songs, messages, or artistry in your heart, the question is not whether you already have everything you need. The question is whether you are willing to grow into what you've been called to become. Stay open, take the next right step, invest wisely, and trust God with the process.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: What Happens After You Write the Song?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with Theme #7: building a platform in the independent music world. John explores what it means to be an artist in today's creator economy and explains why writing great songs is only one piece of the journey. Drawing from his own experience building Nashville Christian Songwriters from the ground up, John shares practical insight on artist development, independent music release strategies, platform building, and the importance of combining creative excellence with intentional business decisions. This episode challenges Christian songwriters to move beyond inspiration alone and develop the skills, systems, and message needed to create meaningful impact.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Theme #7 of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide
- Building a platform in the independent music world
- Why inspiration alone isn't enough
- The rise of independent artists and creator culture
- The shift from record labels to self-led artist development
- Growing Nashville Christian Songwriters from coaching to artist development
- The role of distributors and DSPs in music releases
- Balancing creativity with business strategy
- Why songwriting excellence matters more than ever
- Navigating today's crowded music landscape
- The impact of AI and the explosion of music content
- Developing your artistic identity and message
- Understanding audience building and community
- Creating visual, musical, and brand consistency
- Building a sustainable ministry and music career
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- John explains how independent artistry has become the dominant model for releasing and growing music today.
- He shares the origin story of NCS and how coaching naturally evolved into production, artist development, and launching artists.
- The episode explores why simply feeling inspired does not automatically translate into songs that connect broadly with listeners.
- John emphasizes the importance of developing songwriting craft so your message becomes accessible and impactful.
- Listeners hear practical insight into the role of DSPs, distribution, content creation, and artist infrastructure.
- John discusses how the modern artist must think beyond songs and develop a complete platform.
- The conversation highlights the difference between creating content and building meaningful artistic influence.
- John challenges songwriters not to contribute more mediocre content to an already crowded music world.
- He introduces the idea that successful artist development includes both creative assets and business systems.
- The episode encourages artists to identify their audience, clarify their message, and intentionally build a community around their music.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Writing great songs is no longer enough. Today's independent artist must combine craft, clarity, consistency, and strategy to build a sustainable platform. If God has given you songs to share, steward that calling with excellence—develop your message, understand your audience, invest in your growth, and intentionally build the systems that help your music reach the people it was meant to serve.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't People Remembering Your Songs?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum continues the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide series with a deep dive into one of the most important elements of songwriting: writing hooks that stick. Drawing from over four decades in Christian music and songwriting, John shares how powerful hooks and memorable titles have shaped his own catalog of more than 500 songs. He explains the difference between melodic hooks and lyrical hooks, why great songs begin with compelling ideas, and how intentional songwriting can help Christian communicators create music that truly resonates. Along the way, John shares behind-the-scenes stories about how some of his own songs were inspired through conversations, prayer, and everyday moments.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Theme #6 of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide
- What makes a songwriting hook memorable
- The difference between melodic hooks and lyrical hooks
- Why titles matter in songwriting
- The importance of the "One Big Idea"
- How professional songwriters discover great hooks
- Songwriting inspiration through conversation and prayer
- Stories behind "Can He, Could He, Would He" and "One More Time"
- Learning from mentors like Bill Gaither and Gary McSpadden
- Why biblical truth alone does not guarantee a great song
- Characteristics of effective hooks and titles
- The role of emotion, rhyme, and alliteration in songwriting
- How great songs capture imagination and attention
- Why intentional songwriting matters
- Studying successful songs and titles for growth
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- John explains that hooks are often the most memorable part of a song and determine whether listeners emotionally connect.
- He shares how his songwriting career has been built around finding "killer hooks" and strong song concepts.
- The episode explores the difference between melodic hooks like "Billie Jean" and lyrical hooks like "What a Beautiful Name."
- John discusses how rhyme, alliteration, and memorable phrasing make titles more effective.
- Listeners hear the story behind "Can He, Could He, Would He," which emerged spontaneously during a conversation.
- John also shares how the phrase "One More Time" surfaced naturally during prayer and became the foundation for a song.
- He emphasizes that loving Jesus deeply does not automatically make a song compelling or memorable.
- John reflects on wisdom from Bill Gaither, who challenged writers to create songs people would still care about 100 years later.
- The episode encourages songwriters to study successful songs, titles, and genres intentionally instead of writing aimlessly.
- John challenges listeners to grow beyond casual songwriting and pursue excellence in communication and craft.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songwriting starts with a great hook. Whether melodic or lyrical, memorable hooks capture attention, stir emotion, and help listeners connect deeply with your message. Strong titles, intentional ideas, emotional resonance, and thoughtful craftsmanship are what transform good intentions into songs that last. If you want your music to truly impact people, learn to recognize and develop hooks that stick.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Aren't Your Songs Resonating?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum continues the walkthrough of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide by diving into Theme #5: finding your lane as a songwriter. John unpacks the importance of writing with clarity, direction, and genre awareness so your songs connect more deeply with listeners instead of drifting through "vague territories of meaning." Drawing from decades of experience in Christian music, worship songwriting, and artist development, John shares practical insight on how titles, hooks, genre, audience, and model songs all work together to shape impactful music. He also gives a behind-the-scenes look at his own songwriting process, including the development of a new worship song inspired during church called "See the Lamb."
EPISODE TOPICS
- Theme #5 of the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide
- Finding your songwriting lane and genre
- Avoiding "vague territories of meaning"
- Why clarity matters in lyric writing and music production
- The connection between title, hook, and genre
- Writing with a target audience in mind
- The importance of model songs in songwriting
- Writing with a specific artist or worship leader in mind
- John's songwriting process behind "See the Lamb"
- Developing songs that resonate emotionally and stylistically
- How modern worship songs are intentionally crafted
- Learning from professional songwriting practices
- The role of originality in established genres
- Studying songs and artists you admire
- Using genre awareness to make songs more effective
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- John explains why strong songwriting begins with a focused "One Big Idea" rather than vague concepts.
- He discusses how both lyrics and musical style need direction for a song to connect.
- John shares how a lyric idea from church eventually became a full worship ballad titled "See the Lamb."
- The episode explores how genre often emerges naturally as melody and lyric develop together.
- John encourages writers to study artists and songs they admire in order to better understand genre conventions.
- He explains how professional writers use "model songs" to help shape musical direction during co-writing sessions.
- John emphasizes the importance of knowing your audience before fully developing a song.
- The conversation includes insight into modern worship writing and the intentional choices behind successful songs.
- John references the NCS Collective project and breaks down the songwriting approach behind "Nothing But the Name."
- Listeners are challenged to stop writing aimlessly and instead create songs with purpose, clarity, and artistic alignment.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songs know where they're going. Whether you're writing worship music, CCM, country, or inspirational songs, clarity matters. Understanding your audience, genre, lyrical focus, and emotional target will help your songs connect more powerfully. Instead of writing in vague territories of meaning, focus your ideas, study the songs you love, and intentionally craft music that resonates deeply with listeners.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: POINT OF GRACE: A Lifetime in Christian Music - and Still Going
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this special guest episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes the iconic Christian music trio Point of Grace—Denise Jones, Leigh Cappillino, and Shelley Breen—to discuss their new album Lady Wisdom and the spiritual themes that shaped its creation. With decades of ministry, chart-topping songs, and personal life experiences behind them, the group reflects on how maturity, faith, and life's challenges have deepened their songwriting and message.
The conversation explores the biblical inspiration behind the album, drawn from the book of Proverbs, including themes of wisdom, folly, grace, and spiritual growth. The group shares insights into specific songs like "Folly" and "Grace on the Edge," revealing how these songs confront temptation, remind listeners of God's grace, and offer hope to those navigating difficult seasons.
Beyond music, the discussion moves into deeper territory—community, loneliness, the importance of caring for unseen people, and the ongoing journey of spiritual maturity. The members share vulnerable reflections on personal growth, faith struggles, and their hopes for continued relevance and faithfulness in the years ahead. This episode highlights how songwriting, ministry, and life experiences intersect to create music that not only entertains but teaches and ministers to listeners.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Introduction to the legacy and impact of Point of Grace
- The creative vision behind the album Lady Wisdom
- Returning to harmony-driven pop roots in Christian music
- Songwriting collaborations with artists and producers
- The biblical inspiration of Proverbs and the concept of Lady Wisdom
- Writing songs that function as teaching moments
- Experiencing God's grace in moments of weakness and temptation
- How maturity and life experience shape songwriting authenticity
- Building community through music and fan engagement
- Encouraging compassion toward pastors and ministry leaders
- Balancing ministry, family, and personal growth
- Finding purpose and relevance in later seasons of ministry
- Staying faithful to calling through decades of music ministry
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- A Legacy of Harmony and Faithfulness With decades of music and ministry behind them, Point of Grace reflects on how their journey has evolved from youthful beginnings to seasoned ministry marked by testimony, faithfulness, and spiritual maturity.
- Returning to Their Signature Sound The group intentionally returned to their harmony-driven pop sound on Lady Wisdom, responding to fans who longed for the musical style that originally defined their ministry.
- Songs Rooted in Proverbs The album draws heavily from biblical themes, particularly the contrast between wisdom and folly. The concept of "Lady Folly" represents the seductive nature of sin and distraction that can lead believers away from God's path.
- Grace Meets Us at the Edge The song "Grace on the Edge" reminds listeners that no matter how far they feel they have fallen, God's grace remains available. The group emphasizes that salvation is not earned but received through faith.
- Music as Ministry and Teaching Each song on the album functions like a mini teaching, offering spiritual truths that listeners can apply to daily life.
- Seeing the Unseen The group shares their heart for individuals who feel invisible or isolated, encouraging listeners to intentionally notice and care for people who may feel overlooked in churches or communities.
- Growing Through Life's Seasons As empty nesters and seasoned artists, the members reflect on shifting priorities, learning to focus on relationships within their own homes while continuing to serve others.
- Contentment Over Performance Personal growth includes learning to find satisfaction in God rather than striving for perfection or outward success.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Wisdom, grace, and spiritual maturity are not achieved overnight—they are formed through years of faith, experience, and reliance on God.
This episode reminds listeners that God meets us at every stage of life, especially in moments of weakness, temptation, or uncertainty. Through music, relationships, and personal growth, we are invited to choose wisdom over folly, extend grace to others, and remain faithful to the calling God has placed on our lives.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Check out POINT OF GRACE!
https://www.pointofgrace.net/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Do You Suffer From Lonely Songwriter Syndrome?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues working through his NCS Complete Songwriting Guide, focusing on Theme #4: Overcoming Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS). He emphasizes that one of the biggest obstacles holding songwriters back is not a lack of talent or ideas, but isolation.
John explains that songwriting is meant to be a collaborative, community-driven process rather than a solitary journey. Drawing from his 40+ years of experience, he highlights how co-writing, accountability, and honest feedback dramatically increase both the quality and consistency of a songwriter's output.
Throughout the episode, John shares practical ways writers can step out of isolation—whether through structured communities like Nashville Christian Songwriters, Zoom co-writing sessions, church-based songwriting groups, or one-on-one collaborations. He challenges listeners to move beyond "idea collecting" and into the discipline of finishing songs, sharpening their craft through relationship and real-time creative exchange.
Ultimately, this episode is a call to step out of loneliness and into a creative community that strengthens, challenges, and multiplies your songwriting potential.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Introduction to Theme #4: Overcoming Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS)
- Why songwriting is not meant to be done alone
- The emotional and creative effects of isolation in songwriting
- How loneliness leads to unfinished songs and burnout
- The importance of accountability in creative output
- Moving from idea-storing to song-finishing discipline
- Understanding the value of co-writing relationships
- Different forms of co-writing (duos, small groups, larger retreats)
- Writing via Zoom and remote collaboration
- Finding complementary songwriting strengths (lyrics, melody, music)
- The role of mentorship and coaching in creative development
- Avoiding over-reliance on encouraging but uncritical feedback
- Recognizing "cultural bias" in church and close community feedback
- Building or joining intentional songwriting communities
- How professional feedback accelerates growth
- Taking responsibility for your creative consistency and output
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Loneliness is a Creativity Killer: John explains that repeated isolation in songwriting leads to discouragement, inconsistency, and eventually burnout. Without community, many writers stop finishing songs altogether.
- Songwriting Is a Team Sport: Rather than the "lone genius" model, John emphasizes that strong songwriting is built through collaboration, feedback, and shared creative energy.
- Co-Writing Builds Skill Faster Than Solo Writing: Working with others exposes writers to new approaches, structures, and creative instincts they would not develop alone. Growth accelerates through collaboration.
- Accountability Leads to Completion: One of the biggest differences between hobby writers and prolific writers is finishing songs. Accountability helps turn ideas into completed work.
- There Are Many Ways to Co-Write: Co-writing can happen in pairs, small groups, songwriting retreats, church communities, or virtually through Zoom sessions. There is no single "right" format—only what creates consistency and collaboration.
- Your Weakness Should Meet Someone Else's Strength: Effective collaboration often pairs lyricists with melody writers, or concept-driven writers with producers and musicians, creating a stronger final result.
- Feedback Must Be Honest, Not Just Encouraging: John warns against relying solely on supportive friends or church communities, which can unintentionally reinforce weak songwriting through "cultural bias."
- Professional Input Raises the Ceiling: Growth accelerates when writers engage in structured environments with experienced mentors or coaches who provide honest critique and direction.
- Consistency Reveals Calling: Your output level is a reflection of your seriousness. Writers who consistently finish songs treat songwriting as a discipline, not just inspiration.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Songwriting growth does not happen in isolation—it happens in community.
If you want to become a more prolific and impactful songwriter, you must step out of loneliness and into collaboration, accountability, and honest feedback. Co-writing, mentorship, and structured creative environments will challenge you, sharpen your skills, and help you actually finish your songs—not just collect ideas.
When you surround your songwriting with the right people, your creativity multiplies, your consistency increases, and your calling becomes clearer and more powerful.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Are You A Songwriter?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues the journey through the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #3: Discovering Your Mission as a Christian Songwriter. He explores the importance of clarifying your personal "why" so that your songs have clear direction, deeper meaning, and lasting impact.
John shares stories from his own songwriting journey and from writers he's coached, illustrating how powerful songs often flow from personal experiences, healing, and calling. He explains that while many writers feel drawn to broad goals like encouragement or evangelism, meaningful songwriting comes from drilling down into the specific message God has placed on your heart.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own life experiences, passions, and spiritual journey to uncover recurring themes that can shape their songwriting voice. This episode serves as a powerful invitation to move beyond vague intentions and begin writing songs that are rooted in purpose, identity, and authentic ministry.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Introduction to Theme #3: Discovering Your Mission as a Christian Songwriter
- Clarifying your "why" as a songwriter
- Writing from personal calling rather than imitation
- Understanding the difference between broad goals and specific mission
- Learning to write for your own ministry context
- Turning personal stories into universal messages
- Identifying recurring themes in your life and testimony
- Finding your unique voice and songwriting focus
- Avoiding comparison with established artists
- Building songs that reflect your personal ministry impact
- The role of healing, testimony, and experience in songwriting
- Taking inventory of your life experiences to uncover purpose
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Discovering Your Songwriting Mission: John introduces Theme #3 by focusing on the importance of clarifying your mission as a songwriter. Without a clear sense of purpose, songs can feel scattered or unfocused. A strong "why" gives direction and meaning to your work.
- Write for Your Sphere of Influence: Instead of trying to write songs for famous artists, John encourages songwriters to focus on their own ministry settings—churches, small groups, or communities where their songs can make an immediate difference.
- Your Story Holds the Key: Many powerful songwriting themes come from personal experiences such as healing, loss, restoration, or spiritual growth. These experiences can become the foundation for songs that minister to others.
- Make Personal Messages Universal: While your story may be unique, your songs should connect broadly. John explains how personal experiences can be expressed in ways that resonate with many listeners.
- Move Beyond Vague Callings: Broad terms like encouragement, worship, or evangelism are good starting points, but deeper clarity is needed to build a meaningful songwriting mission.
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Ask the Right Questions: John encourages songwriters to reflect on four key areas:
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What obstacles has God helped you overcome?
- What topics interest and inspire you most?
- What do you naturally talk about with others?
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How do you spend your free time?
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Character Sustains Calling: Talent alone isn't enough. Long-term impact requires maturity, discipline, and clarity of purpose. Knowing your mission helps sustain your calling through both highs and lows.
- Write from Purpose, Not Pressure: Songs written from authentic calling carry greater emotional depth and spiritual impact than those written merely to meet expectations.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your songwriting becomes powerful when it flows from purpose.
Take time to reflect on your life experiences, passions, and calling. Identify the themes God has already been shaping in your life, and allow those themes to guide your songwriting. When your songs are rooted in a clear mission, they carry depth, direction, and lasting impact.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Is Your Song Ready?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues exploring the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #2: Taking Your Work from Demo to the World. He walks songwriters through the essential stages of music production—from simple voice memos to professional master recordings—and explains how each level serves a specific purpose in developing and sharing your songs.
John emphasizes that songwriting success isn't about rushing into expensive studio recordings but about progressing wisely through each stage. He discusses the importance of capturing ideas quickly with work demos, developing songs through home demos, and only investing in professional production after a song has been tested and proven to resonate with listeners.
Along the way, John addresses the role of technology and AI in modern songwriting, offering practical wisdom on how tools can support creativity without replacing authentic songwriting. This episode provides a clear roadmap for moving your songs from inspiration to impact—helping songwriters steward both their creativity and their resources wisely.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Introduction to Theme #2: Taking Your Work from Demo to the World
- The three levels of song production
- Understanding the purpose of work demos
- Using voice memos to capture songwriting ideas
- Developing songs through home demo recordings
- Deciding whether to build a home studio or hire professionals
- Avoiding costly mistakes in professional production
- Knowing when a song is ready for studio investment
- Using AI tools wisely in the demo process
- Releasing music to digital service providers (DSPs)
- Stewarding time, money, and creativity wisely
- Testing songs before committing to major production
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Understanding the Three Levels of Production: John outlines the progression from work demos to home demos to professional master recordings. Each level serves a distinct purpose, helping songwriters move gradually from idea to polished release.
- Start with Simple Work Demos: A work demo—often just a voice memo—captures melody and lyrics quickly before inspiration fades. The goal isn't perfection, but clarity and preservation of ideas.
- Home Demos Help Develop the Song: Home recordings allow songwriters to experiment with arrangements and instrumentation. However, John cautions writers to carefully weigh the time and learning curve involved in building technical production skills.
- Choose Your Focus Wisely: Songwriters must decide where to invest their time—becoming engineers or becoming better writers. While some can do both, many benefit from focusing primarily on songwriting craft.
- Avoid Expensive Production Too Soon: John shares cautionary stories of songwriters investing thousands of dollars into unproven songs. He stresses that professional recordings should come only after songs have been refined and validated through feedback.
- Test Songs Before Investing: Before moving to high-level production, songwriters should seek feedback and ensure their songs resonate with listeners. A proven song is far more deserving of financial investment.
- Using AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement: AI tools can help generate demo versions of songs when the melody and lyrics are already written. However, John emphasizes maintaining integrity by ensuring the creative foundation remains authentically human.
- Understanding Master Recordings: If you plan to release music on streaming platforms, you'll need a master recording that meets professional quality standards. This level of production represents the final stage of sharing your music with the world.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Every song deserves a thoughtful journey from idea to impact.
Don't rush into expensive production before your songs are ready. Start by capturing ideas simply, develop them carefully, test them with others, and invest wisely when the time is right. When you move intentionally through each stage, your songs have the best chance to connect with listeners and make a lasting difference.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John introduces Theme #1 from the brand-new NCS Complete Songwriting Guide—the call to become an intentional Christian songwriter. Rather than writing sporadically or waiting for inspiration to strike, John challenges songwriters to develop a clear plan, take consistent steps forward, and steward their calling with purpose.
Drawing from decades of songwriting experience, John shares how many writers dream of being heard on radio, in churches, or around the world—but often lack the intentional habits necessary to get there. He explains why lasting growth doesn't happen through giant leaps, but through small, faithful steps taken consistently over time.
This episode lays the foundation for the upcoming themes in the guide, encouraging songwriters to move beyond hobby-level creativity and step into purposeful development. It's a motivating and practical call to stop drifting and start growing as a songwriter who writes with vision, discipline, and faith.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Introduction to the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide
- Theme #1: Becoming an intentional Christian songwriter
- Why many songwriters stay stuck without a clear plan
- The difference between dreaming and doing
- Taking incremental steps toward songwriting growth
- Moving from hobbyist thinking to purposeful development
- Investing time, energy, and resources into your calling
- Developing spiritual and creative discipline
- Creating momentum through small, consistent actions
- Building a long-term vision for your songwriting journey
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Introducing the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide: John shares the heart behind creating an 80-page resource designed to help Christian songwriters take meaningful, practical steps toward growth. The guide outlines 12 essential themes to help writers develop both skill and purpose.
- Intentional Songwriting Starts with a Plan: Many songwriters have dreams but lack structure. John emphasizes that growth requires intention—setting goals, creating rhythms, and making songwriting a priority rather than an afterthought.
- Small Steps Lead to Big Results: Instead of trying to make giant leaps, songwriters are encouraged to focus on consistent, manageable actions. Incremental growth builds confidence, skill, and long-term momentum.
- From Hobby to Calling: Writing songs casually can be fulfilling, but those who feel called to share their message more broadly must treat songwriting as a discipline worth investing in.
- Feed Your Mind and Spirit: True growth happens when songwriters nurture both their creative skills and their spiritual lives—drawing inspiration from the Holy Spirit while developing practical tools.
- Get Unstuck by Taking Action: Waiting for the perfect moment often leads to stagnation. Progress begins when songwriters take the next available step, even if it feels small.
Your Calling Deserves Stewardship: Songwriting is not just a creative outlet—it's a responsibility. Stewarding your gift well means being intentional about growth, learning, and consistent effort.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songwriting doesn't happen by accident—it happens by intention.
If you feel called to write songs that impact others, it's time to move beyond wishful thinking and take purposeful steps forward. Start where you are, make a plan, and commit to steady growth. Over time, small, faithful actions can lead to powerful results in your songwriting and your calling.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with multi-talented artist, songwriter, top-liner, and coach Phoebe Scott to explore the craft, mindset, and spiritual foundation of songwriting. Phoebe shares her journey from small-town beginnings in West Tennessee to becoming a sought-after top-liner in Nashville, revealing how her early experiences, collaborative songwriting, and creative discipline shaped her career. Together, they dive into songwriting processes, the balance of inspiration and skill, and how faith and intentionality fuel artistry. The episode also includes an improvised songwriting session, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how ideas become songs.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Phoebe's journey from small-town bands to Nashville songwriting
- The role of a top-liner and modern collaborative songwriting
- Developing a prolific songwriting practice
- Balancing inspiration with skill and discipline
- Faith, creativity, and the mindset of a songwriter
- Importance of consuming quality art for creative growth
- Improvised songwriting exercise: "It's All Good"
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Phoebe's early co-writing experience in Cooper the Band taught her how to write collaboratively and develop artistic identity.
- Explanation of a top-liner's role: helping artists tell their story through melody and lyrics, supporting their vision while keeping songs cohesive.
- Insight into how prolific songwriting comes from consistent practice, showing up, and embracing feedback.
- Faith-centered perspective: every song already exists in God's creation; the songwriter's role is to be faithful and obedient in arranging it.
- Emphasis on input for output: reading, exploring art, and studying culture directly fuels creativity.
- Discussion of mindset: success is not only inspiration but showing up consistently, even when ideas feel empty.
- Behind-the-scenes songwriting moment where Phoebe and John co-create an improvised chorus, demonstrating collaborative creativity in action.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Songwriting is both a craft and a calling. By combining discipline, creative curiosity, and faith, artists can show up fully—even when inspiration feels scarce—and trust the process to bring songs to life. Collaboration, input from mentors and peers, and a mindset grounded in purpose transform ordinary songwriting sessions into opportunities for growth and meaningful storytelling. Whether you're a beginner or seasoned songwriter, the key is to consistently engage, consume art, and allow God to guide the process, knowing that every step contributes to the song He's already envisioned.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with what Phoebe Scott is doing!
https://www.instagram.com/phoebeisloud/
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John shares a powerful and honest message about the importance of mentoring and coaching in the journey of becoming a great Christian songwriter and artist. Drawing from over four decades in the music industry, John reflects on his own apprenticeship under legendary mentors and how that experience shaped his career.
He challenges common misconceptions around calling, talent, and success—reminding songwriters that passion alone isn't enough. Growth requires intentional investment, humility, and a willingness to learn from those further along in the journey. John also speaks candidly about the realities of the music industry, the value of paying for professional services, and the responsibility artists have to steward their calling with excellence.
This episode is both a wake-up call and an invitation—to stop waiting, start growing, and pursue songwriting with discipline, mentorship, and purpose.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Why mentoring and coaching are essential for songwriting growth
- The difference between being "called" and being "ready"
- How John's early apprenticeship shaped his entire career
- Why talent and passion alone won't make you a great songwriter
- The importance of investing time, effort, and money into your craft
- Common mindset traps that hold Christian songwriters back
- How to evaluate your songs beyond personal or cultural bias
- Why surrounding yourself with excellence accelerates growth
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Mentorship is a biblical and practical pathway to growth
- Great songwriting is developed, not assumed
- You are responsible for developing and presenting your calling
- Feedback, challenge, and accountability are necessary to improve
- The question isn't "Am I good enough?"—it's "Am I committed enough to grow?"
- Excellence in songwriting requires both inspiration and discipline
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Christian songwriting is both a calling and a craft. Passion opens the door, but growth comes from humility, mentorship, and intentional effort. Surround yourself with those who challenge and inspire you, invest in your development, and commit to excellence in every song you write. The journey isn't about proving your talent—it's about stewarding your gift with purpose, discipline, and faithfulness. Start today, seek guidance, and let every step forward bring you closer to the songwriter God has called you to be.
Take your next step by downloading the free NCS Complete Songwriting Guide and exploring the coaching and community opportunities available at Nashville Christian Songwriters.
Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Song Revolution so you never miss an episode.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with returning guest, artist, and songwriter Clark Beckham for a powerful conversation on artistry, worship, and the pursuit of excellence in songwriting.
From his journey as a finalist on American Idol to becoming an NCS Records artist, Clark shares how his passion for soul, jazz, and expressive musicianship has shaped his unique approach to worship music. The conversation explores the heart behind his Acoustic Worship Sessions project, where familiar worship songs are reimagined through rich chord progressions and deeply personal expression.
Beyond the music, this episode dives into the discipline required to grow as a songwriter and artist. Clark and John unpack the importance of skill development, teachability, and resisting the temptation to settle for mediocrity. This is a compelling and honest look at what it really takes to steward your calling and create music that reflects both excellence and authenticity.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Clark Beckham's journey from American Idol to NCS Records
- The vision behind the acoustic Worship Sessions project
- Reimagining worship songs through soul, jazz, and expressive chords
- The role of musical skill in honoring God through creativity
- Why growth requires discipline, not just desire
- Learning from mentors and collapsing the learning curve
- The difference between hobbyists and committed songwriters
- Overcoming creative passivity and taking action
- Worship as both spiritual expression and musical craftsmanship
- The balance between congregational accessibility and artistic depth
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- A Unique Approach to Worship Clark shares how his love for soul and jazz naturally flows into his worship leading. Rather than trying to be different, his style is simply the authentic expression of his musical journey and relationship with God.
- The Heart Behind Acoustic Worship Sessions What started organically has become a powerful project—taking well-known worship songs and presenting them in a fresh, intimate, and musically rich way that highlights both skill and sincerity.
- God Created Every Chord Clark challenges the idea that only simple or familiar musical structures are "spiritual." From major chords to complex jazz voicings, all musical beauty ultimately points back to the Creator.
- Excellence Is an Offering Both John and Clark emphasize that pursuing excellence is not about performance or pride—it's about offering God your very best. Growth requires intentional effort, learning, and a willingness to refine your craft.
- Stop Talking, Start Growing A key theme throughout the episode is the difference between wanting to improve and actually doing the work. Real growth comes from discipline, learning from others, and consistently putting in the reps.
- Learn from Those Who've Gone Before You Whether through courses, books, or mentorship, learning from experienced voices can dramatically accelerate growth and help avoid unnecessary mistakes.
- Calling Requires Development Being called does not mean being instantly skilled. Often, the calling itself is an invitation into a process of growth, refinement, and deeper dependence on God.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Your calling is not just about what you create—it's about who you become in the process.
Great songwriting and worship don't come from shortcuts or surface-level effort. They are formed through discipline, humility, and a deep desire to grow. When you commit to developing your craft and offering your best to God, your music becomes more than sound—it becomes a true expression of worship that can impact others in a lasting way.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow what Clark Beckham is up to!
https://clarkbeckham.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum dives into one of the most essential—and often overlooked—skills in songwriting: finding truly great ideas.
Against the backdrop of today's rapidly evolving AI landscape, John challenges songwriters to resist shortcuts and instead pursue authenticity, depth, and spiritual connection in their creative process. He explores the tension between "high tech" and "high touch," emphasizing that while technology continues to advance, the need for real human expression has never been greater.
Through personal stories, practical teaching, and decades of experience, John breaks down how to discover "killer hooks" rooted in genuine faith, lived experience, and a vibrant relationship with God. This episode is both a creative roadmap and a spiritual call to write songs that are not only well-crafted—but lasting.
EPISODE TOPICS
- The importance of great ideas in songwriting
- "High tech vs. high touch" in a digital and AI-driven world
- Why authentic testimony matters more than generated content
- The role of the Holy Spirit in inspiration
- How environment and influences shape your creativity
- Developing originality in song concepts
- The power of language, rhyme, and lyrical tools
- Learning from books, advertising, and other songs
- Avoiding lazy songwriting habits
- Writing songs that stand the test of time
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Great Songs Start with Great Ideas John emphasizes that every impactful song begins with a compelling, clear, and focused idea. Without a strong foundation, even the best production cannot carry a song.
- High Tech vs. High Touch As technology continues to expand, the value of human connection and authentic expression increases. Songwriting is not just about output—it is about the Spirit of God moving through a real person's life and testimony.
- Don't Outsource Your Voice While AI can generate content, it cannot replace the personal, spiritual, and emotional depth that comes from your own story. Your testimony is your greatest creative asset.
- The Power of a "Killer Hook" Timeless songs are built on simple, powerful ideas that connect instantly. A great title or hook should stand on its own—clear, compelling, and memorable without explanation.
- Go Inward First Some of the best ideas come from quiet moments of reflection and connection with God. Asking the Holy Spirit what He is doing in your life can unlock deeply meaningful song concepts.
- Feed Your Creativity Great writers are filled with great words. Reading, listening, and surrounding yourself with inspiring content strengthens your ability to write with depth and originality.
- Learn the Craft Understanding tools like rhyme, alliteration, and lyrical structure is essential. Songwriting is both spiritual and skill-based—it requires growth, study, and intentional development.
- Don't Be a Lazy Songwriter Waiting passively for inspiration or relying on shortcuts leads to shallow results. Proactive, disciplined writers create more compelling and lasting songs.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songwriting is not accidental—it is intentional, spiritual, and deeply personal.
In a world increasingly driven by technology, your greatest advantage is your humanity and your relationship with God. The songs that last are not generated—they are cultivated through time, discipline, and authentic connection with the Holy Spirit.
If you want to write songs that matter, start by listening inward, stewarding your voice, and committing to the process. Your testimony, your words, and your calling are worth the work.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with award-winning artist, songwriter, theologian, and worship leader Ginny Owens. From her early discovery by Michael W. Smith and her years in the CCM spotlight to seasons of burnout, spiritual wrestling, and renewed calling, Ginny shares a candid look at the highs and hardships of life in Christian music.
Now serving at Redeemer Church in Manhattan and holding a Master of Divinity degree, Ginny reflects on what it means to go deeper in faith, to wrestle honestly with God, and to create music that fosters real spiritual conversations. She also introduces her new EP, Different Kind of Water, and shares about launching The Asaph Project, a new nonprofit focused on equipping worship leaders and writing songs for the local church.
This is a rich conversation about faithfulness over fame, depth over dopamine, and blooming faithfully where God has planted you.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Being discovered by Michael W. Smith and signing with Rocketown Records
- The realities behind the CCM touring life
- Burnout, doubt, and rediscovering spiritual depth
- Moving to New York City and earning an M.Div.
- Studying under Tim Keller at Redeemer
- The importance of church accountability for artists
- Writing songs that spark spiritual conversations
- The heart behind the EP Different Kind of Water
- Launching The Asaph Project to serve the congregational church
- Blooming where you're planted as a songwriter
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- From Belmont to Rocketown Ginny shares the story of how a simple church offertory led to recording demos, connecting with publisher Michael Puryear, and eventually signing with Michael W. Smith's Rocketown Records. Community and faithful connectors played a pivotal role in her journey.
- The Hidden Cost of the Dream While touring and recording brought exciting opportunities, Ginny candidly discusses the spiritual and relational toll of life on the road. Without consistent church accountability and rooted community, burnout followed. Her reflection offers valuable wisdom for aspiring artists.
- Going Deeper After Doubt Following a difficult season of burnout and spiritual questioning, Ginny sensed the Lord leading her into deeper theological study. Her move to New York to attend seminary at Redeemer under Tim Keller became a transformative chapter of growth and renewal.
- Writing for Spiritual Conversations Her new EP, Different Kind of Water, reflects conversations she longs to have with friends who don't yet believe. Each song addresses universal longings—satisfaction, forgiveness, purpose—and gently points toward Christ as the ultimate answer.
- The Asaph Project Ginny shares her vision for The Asaph Project, a nonprofit aimed at equipping worship leaders in theology, songcraft, and congregational leadership while also creating new music specifically for the local church.
- Bloom Where You're Planted Her encouragement to songwriters: bring every dream and idea to the Lord, stay rooted in Scripture, and faithfully serve where you are now rather than chasing the door that hasn't opened yet.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Success in Christian music is not sustained by momentum, platform, or applause—it is sustained by presence with Jesus and rootedness in community.
Ginny's journey reminds us that calling is deeper than career. Whether you're touring the world or serving your local church, faithfulness begins with abiding in Christ and blooming right where He has planted you.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Follow along with Ginny Owens
https://www.ginnyowens.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with songwriter and artist Daniel Doss for an honest conversation about calling, perseverance, and the refining process of songwriting. Daniel shares his journey into music, the challenges of building a career while staying grounded in faith, and the lessons he has learned about consistency, character, and craft.
Throughout the conversation, Daniel opens up about navigating setbacks, staying creative during uncertain seasons, and learning how to write songs that are both personal and universally resonant. This episode highlights the importance of patience, humility, and long-term faithfulness in a songwriting journey that is often marked by unseen growth before visible opportunity.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Daniel's early path into songwriting and artistry
- The tension between ambition and surrender
- Developing craft through repetition and discipline
- Staying rooted in faith while pursuing opportunity
- The importance of community in a creative career
- Writing songs that are authentic rather than strategic
- Growth that happens behind the scenes
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Daniel reflects on how early challenges shaped both his faith and his songwriting voice.
- A candid discussion about rejection and how it refines both character and craft.
- Insight into why consistency matters more than momentary momentum.
- Encouragement to write songs that come from lived experience rather than trends.
- A reminder that longevity in music requires humility, patience, and a willingness to keep learning.
- Practical wisdom on staying encouraged during seasons when progress feels slow.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
A sustainable songwriting career is not built overnight. Daniel Doss's story reminds us that true growth often happens in hidden seasons where discipline, faith, and character are formed. When songwriters commit to the long process—refining their craft, guarding their hearts, and trusting God with the timeline—their songs carry depth that cannot be manufactured.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Check out Daniel Doss
https://www.danieldossmusic.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: SHAYLEE SIMEONE: Honest Jesus Music
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and storyteller Shaylee Simeone for an honest and heartfelt conversation about identity, calling, and the long road of obedience in a creative life. Shaylee shares her journey from early musical influences and family harmony to stepping out on her own as an artist and songwriter.
The conversation explores the tension between ambition and surrender, the process of refining your voice over time, and the importance of writing songs that reflect real life rather than performance. Shaylee opens up about seasons of waiting, redefining success, and learning to trust God with both the platform and the process. This episode is a powerful reminder that longevity in songwriting is built on faithfulness, authenticity, and the courage to tell the truth.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Growing up in a musical family and early creative development
- Discovering personal identity apart from performance
- The tension between ambition and obedience
- Navigating seasons of waiting and transition
- Moving to Nashville and stepping into the songwriting community
- Writing from real life rather than image
- Redefining success as faithfulness
- The importance of vulnerability in songwriting
- Trusting God with timing, platform, and opportunity
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Shaylee reflects on how her early experiences in music shaped both her confidence and her insecurities.
- A thoughtful discussion on separating identity from achievement.
- Insight into the discipline of continuing to write even when outcomes feel uncertain.
- Honest moments about comparison and the pressure to measure up.
- Encouragement to write songs that are rooted in lived experience rather than trend.
- A clear reminder that calling is often confirmed through quiet obedience rather than immediate visibility.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Sustainable songwriting is not built on hype or momentum—it is built on faithfulness. Shaylee Simeone's story reminds us that when we anchor our identity in who we are rather than what we achieve, we gain the freedom to create from a place of honesty and peace. The songs that endure are the ones shaped by patience, trust, and a willingness to let God define the outcome.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Check out Shaylee Simeone
https://www.shayleesimeone.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: AMANDA JANSON: Sinner To Saint
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this powerful episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with worship artist and songwriter Amanda Janson for an honest and deeply vulnerable conversation about faith, calling, trauma, and songwriting as testimony. Amanda shares her journey from a Broadway-bound upbringing and a complicated spiritual background to encountering Christ in adulthood and eventually stepping into a life of worship and songwriting.
The conversation traces Amanda's move to Nashville, her growth as a co-writer, and the intense personal battles that shaped her latest album, Sinner To Saint. With courage and clarity, Amanda opens up about depression, shame, suicidal thoughts, and the turning points that led her to deeper surrender and healing. This episode is a profound reminder that songwriting can become a sacred place where pain, honesty, and faith meet—and where God brings redemption.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Growing up with mixed religious backgrounds and no church foundation
- Encountering Christ later in life and the early days of faith
- Walking away from a Broadway career and discovering new purpose
- Moving to Nashville by faith and trusting God's timing
- Learning to co-write and build genuine community in songwriting rooms
- Navigating ambition, industry pressure, and comparison
- Trauma, depression, and confronting shame as a believer
- Suicidal thoughts and the journey toward healing and surrender
- Writing songs rooted in testimony and vulnerability
- The heart and message behind the album Sinner To Saint
- Songwriting as a tool for honesty, healing, and worship
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Amanda shares her unexpected salvation story and the early curiosity that led her to faith.
- A candid discussion about chasing success versus pursuing God's presence.
- Insight into the emotional toll of industry pressure and unmet expectations.
- Amanda's description of a profound moment of surrender that marked a turning point in her life and faith.
- The story behind the song "Where the Warfare Ends" and how it was born from a moment of deep despair and divine truth.
- Reflections on the freedom that comes from releasing shame and embracing identity as a child of God.
- Encouragement for artists to tell the truth in their songs and create space for others to heal through honesty.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
True songwriting begins when we stop hiding. Amanda Janson's story reminds us that faith does not remove struggle, but it does invite healing, redemption, and hope into our darkest moments. When songwriters choose honesty over image and surrender over striving, their songs become more than music—they become ministry. God meets us in our broken places, and when we write from there, our stories can help others find light in their own darkness.
Resources & Links:
Check out Amanda Janson
https://www.amandajansonmusic.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Can AI Write Christian Music?
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum tackles one of the most pressing issues facing today's music creators: artificial intelligence in songwriting.
Fresh off multiple interviews at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention, where AI was the dominant topic of conversation, John unpacks the realities, risks, and responsibilities surrounding AI-generated music. From deep fakes and copyright confusion to spiritual discernment and creative integrity, this episode dives deep into what AI means for Christian songwriters.
John makes a clear and passionate case: AI may be a powerful tool, but it can never replace the calling, humanity, and spiritual formation of a real songwriter. This conversation challenges creators not to take the easy way out, but to steward their gifts faithfully in a rapidly shifting technological landscape.
EPISODE TOPICS
- The rise of AI-generated music
- Experiences at NRB and industry-wide AI discussions
- Rights, revenue, and reputation concerns in publishing
- AI "scraping" artist catalogs and copyright implications
- Spotify removing millions of AI-generated tracks
- Deep fakes and reputational harm
- Theological and spiritual questions about AI worship songs
- When AI can be a helpful tool versus a creative shortcut
- Why real songwriters still matter
- Growing as a communicator instead of outsourcing creativity
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- AI Is Here to Stay John acknowledges that AI technology will only improve. Like the digital shift of the late 20th century, we are in a major cultural and creative transition. The key question is not whether AI exists—but how we respond to it.
- Rights, Revenue, and Reputation AI-generated songs often "scrape" existing catalogs to mimic an artist's style, raising serious concerns about intellectual property and theft. Who owns these songs? Who gets paid? And what happens when an artist's name or likeness is misused through deep fakes?
- Humanity Cannot Be Scraped While AI can generate polished production and flawless vocals, John argues that it lacks pathos, testimony, and authentic spiritual experience. A great song carries one clear idea rooted in real human emotion. Production may impress, but stripped down to piano or guitar, the song must stand on its own.
- Prompt Writing vs. Songwriting If a creator inputs only a prompt and receives a finished song, John draws a firm line: that is not songwriting. True songwriting involves crafting lyrics, shaping melody, wrestling with structure, and allowing personal testimony to flow into the work.
- Appropriate Use of AI John is not anti-technology. Using AI to generate a demo of a fully written lyric and melody can be a legitimate tool. The issue is not assistance—it is substitution.
- Spiritual Discernment in the AI Era Can God use AI-generated lyrics if they contain truth? Possibly. Truth is truth. But Christian communicators are called to more than efficiency—they are called to communion with God. Songwriting is not just output; it is formation.
- Don't Shortchange the Process The labor of crafting lyrics and melodies over time shapes the songwriter. Taking creative shortcuts may produce sound, but it does not produce growth.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Technology may accelerate production, but it cannot replace calling.
AI can be a tool—but it must never become a substitute for the Spirit-led, deeply human process of writing songs. God called you to be a songwriter not simply to produce music, but to spend time with Him, to grow, and to communicate truth from your own heart.
Do not shortchange yourself. Do not surrender your voice. Steward your gift, embrace the discipline, and create as a real human being empowered by the Spirit of God.
RESOURCES & LINKS:
Link to the John Piper ChatGPT clip John mentioned in the episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMZH7DEPPQ
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY
In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with singer-songwriter Jackson Dreyer for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, discipline, and finding your voice as a songwriter. From growing up outside Chicago to planting roots in East Nashville, Jackson shares how movement, architecture, relationships, and everyday life experiences shape his songwriting process. The conversation explores how stepping away from constant noise creates space for emotional clarity, lyrical depth, and authentic expression.
This episode is a thoughtful look at how songwriters can stay inspired, grounded, and creatively alive while navigating both personal growth and artistic ambition.
EPISODE TOPICS
- The connection between physical movement and creative clarity
- How running and solitude spark songwriting ideas
- Growing up near Chicago and the influence of architecture and place
- Finding inspiration in cities, communities, and everyday surroundings
- Living and writing in East Nashville as a songwriter
- Turning real emotions into honest lyrics
- Avoiding creative overload and reclaiming mental space
- Letting life experiences shape better songs
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- Jackson shares how running helps him reconnect with his thoughts and emotions, often leading to new song ideas.
- A discussion on how silence and mental margin are essential for meaningful songwriting.
- Reflections on how cities like Chicago and Nashville influence creativity, identity, and artistic perspective.
- Insight into how architecture and visual beauty can fuel musical inspiration.
- Honest thoughts on balancing productivity with presence as a modern songwriter.
- Encouragement to embrace real life—relationships, movement, environment—as songwriting fuel.
FINAL TAKEAWAY
Great songs don't come from constant noise—they come from paying attention. By creating space to think, feel, and live fully, songwriters can tap into deeper honesty and write from a more authentic place. Creativity thrives when we slow down, observe our surroundings, and allow life itself to shape the songs we write.
Resources & Links:
Check out Jackson Dreyer
https://www.jacksondreyer.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes Broadway star, film actress, and singer-songwriter Laura Osnes for a deeply personal conversation about calling, identity, and creativity. Laura shares her journey from early musical theater roots to starring on Broadway, navigating career success, public controversy, and a major life pivot that led her to Nashville. The conversation explores how a season of loss and uncertainty opened the door to songwriting, personal expression, and new purpose beyond the stage. Laura also introduces her latest venture, Stagecraft, an online training platform designed to equip and mentor the next generation of stage performers with both excellence and integrity.
EPISODE TOPICS:
- Laura Osnes' early beginnings and Broadway career
- Winning a Broadway role through reality television
- Identity and faith in high-pressure creative environments
- Navigating career disruption and public controversy
- Moving from performance to songwriting as personal expression
- Finding your voice outside of roles and expectations
- Comparison, authenticity, and creative confidence
- Differences between stage performance and film acting
- Launching Stagecraft to mentor young performers
- Encouragement for artists walking unconventional paths
KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
- Laura's reflection on discovering her identity beyond performance and public success.
- Insight into how songwriting became a new creative outlet after a season of loss and silence.
- A powerful discussion on authenticity and resisting comparison in artistic careers.
- Lessons learned from navigating rejection, cancellation, and rebuilding with integrity.
- Practical wisdom on preparation, patience, and being ready when opportunity appears.
- The heart behind Stagecraft and its mission to equip young artists with skill and character.
FINAL TAKEAWAY: Creative calling is not limited to a single platform or season. This episode reminds songwriters and artists that identity must be rooted deeper than success, roles, or recognition. When doors close, new expressions of purpose can emerge. By staying faithful, authentic, and open to unexpected paths, artists can discover new ways to share their voice and make meaningful impact.
Resources & Links:
Check out Laura Osnes
https://lauraosnes.com/
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge
Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are
HOSTS: John Chisum
EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with artist and songwriter Micah Christopher to explore the journey from local church leadership to signing with Integrity Music. Micah shares his story of faith, obedience, and gradual growth, emphasizing how songwriting developed alongside spiritual maturity rather than overnight success. The conversation highlights the tension between calling and platform, the importance of community, and the often unseen seasons that prepare songwriters for wider opportunities. Together, John and Micah unpack what it really means to pursue songwriting with humility, patience, and purpose in a rapidly changing music landscape.
EPISODE TOPICS:
- Micah Christopher's faith and songwriting journey
- Transitioning from local worship leader to recording artist
- Signing with Integrity Music
- Writing songs for the church versus writing for personal expression
- The role of obedience and faithfulness in creative growth
- Balancing ambition, calling, and character
- Community, mentorship, and long-term development
- Navigating expectations in the modern Christian music industry
KEY HIGHLIGHTS:
- Micah's honest reflection on slow, steady growth rather than sudden success.
- Insight into how songwriting evolved naturally out of worship leadership and spiritual formation.
- A discussion on the dangers of chasing platform before being rooted in purpose.
- Encouragement for songwriters who feel overlooked or stuck in hidden seasons.
- Practical wisdom on staying grounded while stepping into new opportunities.
- A reminder that label deals and recognition are outcomes, not destinations.
FINAL TAKEAWAY: Faithful songwriting is built over time through obedience, humility, and community. Rather than striving for quick success, this episode challenges songwriters to trust the process, steward their current season well, and allow their craft and character to grow together. When the foundation is solid, the opportunities that come will have lasting impact.
Resources & Links:
Check out Micah Christopher
https://www.micahchristopher.com/
https://www.instagram.com/micahchristopher_/?hl=en
Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters!
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide
Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4
TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing
HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
EPISODE SUMMARY In this opening episode of Season Four of Song Revolution, John and co-host Bryant Urich reflect on the highlights of the past year while casting vision for 2026. They discuss the growth of the NCS community, the return of in-person songwriting retreats, the launch of NCS Records, and meaningful conversations from recent podcast guests. The episode then shifts into a practical and encouraging discussion about one of the biggest challenges songwriters face: making the most of their time. Through honest conversation and real-life examples, John and Bryant challenge listeners to move past discouragement, establish sustainable writing rhythms, and take intentional action toward their calling as songwriters.
EPISODE TOPICS
- Highlights from 2025 and vision for 2026
- Growth of the NCS community and songwriting retreats
- Launch and expansion of NCS Records
- Lessons learned from recent podcast guests
- Overcoming discouragement and writer's block
- Time management and creative rhythms for songwriters
- Discipline versus legalism in the creative process
- The importance of consistency, accountability, and action
KEY HIGHLIGHTS
- A reflection on how in-person writing retreats and community connection reignited creativity and collaboration.
- Insight into why many songwriters struggle to write consistently and how exhaustion, discouragement, and unrealistic expectations play a role.
- A practical reminder that inspiration often follows action, not the other way around.
- A discussion on identifying personal energy rhythms and choosing realistic writing times that fit current seasons of life.
- Encouragement to view songwriting as a calling worth intentional investment rather than waiting to feel "good enough."
- A reframing of the common question from "Am I good enough?" to "Am I called enough to show up and do the work?"
FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting growth doesn't come from waiting for the perfect moment or the perfect idea. It comes from showing up consistently, feeding your creativity, and taking small but intentional steps forward. If you feel called to write songs, the next step is action. Treat your craft with purpose, surround yourself with community, and commit to using your time wisely so the songs inside you don't stay unwritten.
Resources & Links:
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FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting.
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NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective!
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum
Guest: Dan Dean
Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean
Episode Summary:
Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy!
In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted ministry, and a newly released solo album, More. From early cassette recordings to leading worship across the globe, Dan opens up about perseverance, songwriting, the power of legacy, and why he's more inspired than ever to keep creating.
What You'll Hear:
Dan's early journey from solo artist to founding member of Phillips, Craig & Dean
Behind-the-scenes stories from their 30+ year career and 14 studio albums
How one heartfelt war-time promise shaped generations of ministry
The spiritual and emotional layers behind Dan's new solo album, More
A father-son duet and the family legacy of faith through music
Why beloved songs like "Crucified with Christ" and "Revelation Song" still resonate
Words of encouragement for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders
Featured Songs from More:
"More" – A song of hope written during the isolation of COVID
"Home" – A heartfelt duet with Dan's son, Devin Dean
"Mother of Boys" – Inspired by a poem written by Dan's mom
"Never Gets Old" – A touching reflection on the unchanging power of Scripture
Notable Quotes:
"God always has more of what you need." "You want to hear the songs that brought some kind of emotional or spiritual impact in your life." "The power of one man's decision can impact generations." "It wasn't always easy, but we were faithful to the call."
Resources & Links:
Connect with Dan Dean: https://www.dandeanofficial.com/
Follow Dan on Instagram: @danpcd
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling
Host: John Chisum
Episode Summary:
Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy!
In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter, producer, author, and documentarian Andrew Greer to Song Revolution. From his early days growing up in Texas with music all around him, to his time at Belmont University, and now as a respected artist and filmmaker, Andrew shares how music has always been more than sound—it has been a divine meeting point and a lifelong connection to God.
Andrew opens up about discovering music as collaboration with the Creator, the spiritual weight of art, and how songwriters and storytellers carry the yearning for belonging and acceptance. He and John dive into the mystery of creativity, the intersection of sacred and "secular" art, and the role of music in healing, connection, and co-creation with God.
This first part of the interview also explores Andrew's reflections on growing up with thoughtful parents, his deep love for liner notes, the importance of songwriting beyond categories, and the spiritual resonance of great artists from Joni Mitchell to Roberta Flack.
What You'll Learn in This Episode:
- Andrew's early encounter with music and its connection to faith
- How music serves as collaboration with our Creator
- The difference between original sin and original virtue in shaping our lives
- Why songwriting is about more than "Christian" or "secular" categories
- How great art and music point us toward belonging and acceptance
- Andrew's insights on the indie music landscape and why it's a great time for creators
Key Topics & Highlights:
- The spiritual role of music as connection and belonging
- How Andrew discovered a calling for songwriting and storytelling at an early age
- The influence of his parents and church community on shaping his worldview
- Why labeling art as sacred vs. secular often misses the deeper point
- Stories from Andrew's journey at Belmont University and launching into music
- Insights on how artists like Joni Mitchell, Roberta Flack, and others shaped his perspective
- Why vulnerability and honesty in songwriting resonate more deeply than formulas
Final Takeaway: At its heart, music is not about categories or success—it is about connection. Whether writing songs, producing stories, or simply listening, music offers us a chance to collaborate with God and remind one another that we belong.
Resources & Links:
Explore Andrew Greer's work:
https://www.andrew-greer.com/
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert
Host: John Chisum
Episode Summary:
Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy!
In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Catholic tradition, Sarah shares how her latest album A New Reality was birthed in a season of silence and questioning.
Together, John and Sarah explore what it means to embrace mystery in the Christian life, the importance of living in the present moment, and how belovedness can become an anchor in seasons of darkness. They also discuss the role of co-writing in Sarah's journey, her musical influences, and the inspiration behind standout tracks like "Galaxies," "Ghost," and the beloved fan-favorite "Belovedness."
Whether you're navigating your own spiritual desert or longing to write from a deeper place, this episode offers a rich well of encouragement, authenticity, and insight.
What You'll Learn in This Episode:
- How Sarah Kroger discovered her identity as a songwriter through co-writing
- Why gratitude and presence are key to thriving as an artist
- The inspiration and impact of her song "Belovedness"
- How contemplative authors like Henri Nouwen shaped her spiritual growth
- Why living in mystery may be the most authentic form of faith
- Real talk on spiritual silence, deconstruction, and creative perseverance
Key Moments: [01:09] – John welcomes listeners and introduces Sarah Kroger [03:34] – Sarah on gratitude, presence, and the joy of doing what she loves [05:56] – The early passion for music and discovering co-writing [10:24] – Influences from Nouwen, Merton, and Catholic mysticism [13:06] – John and Sarah discuss spiritual darkness and the mystery of God [17:03] – "I am with you always" as a theme through the desert [23:39] – Letting go of old faith feelings and embracing radical immediacy [29:01] – Practicing presence and the discipline of stillness [31:14] – The story behind "Belovedness" and Sarah's devotional book [36:39] – Exploring "Galaxies" and the divine image within us [38:40] – Writing "Ghost" and choosing sacred, traditional language [40:17] – John reflects on Sarah's album and the beauty of authenticity
Resources & Links:
Order Sarah Kroger's devotional Belovedness: Overcoming Your Inner Critic https://sarahkroger.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State
Hosts: John Chisum
Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown
Episode Summary:
Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy!
In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fame. Clark opens up about the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, how his faith shapes his artistry, and why he believes Jesus loves the complexity found in music—yes, even a flat five.
You'll also hear about Clark's passion for music education, the emotional weight of critiquing performers on his Idol Breakdown series, and why it's perfectly normal to not feel obsessed with your art every single day.
Key Takeaways:
Clark's honest experience as runner-up on American Idol
Why he sees music as a competition with yourself
The story behind "Jesus Loves the Flat Five"
How faith, love, and genuine care translate in the entertainment world
The difference between worship as a genre vs. worship as a personal practice
Why it's okay not to feel creative every day—and why you should keep going anyway
The purpose behind Idol Breakdown and how he handles criticism responsibly
Demystifying music theory through Clark's online courses
Quotable Moments:
"Excuses are just permission slips for mediocrity."
"God is the author of art. And when we express emotions through it, He's in it."
"You don't follow your passion. You work really hard to get good, and passion follows."
"Jesus loves complexity. He loves art. He loves the flat five."
RESOURCES & LINKS
ClarkBeckham.com
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
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NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum EPISODE TITLE: NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry
EPISODE SUMMARY: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with longtime friend, songwriter, and Americana/folk artist Niki Lou Savich to reflect on her remarkable creative and spiritual journey. Once an international model, poet, caregiver, and therapist, Niki shares how songwriting unexpectedly emerged from her poetry during a deeply emotional season of life. She tells the story of discovering Nashville Christian Songwriters, attending her first retreat, and slowly growing from a poet with notebooks full of lyrics into a recording artist with two full-length albums. Together, John and Niki explore grief, faith, courage, artistry, and the patient, step-by-step process of becoming an artist later in life. This episode is a powerful reminder that God often brings songs from places we never planned—and that it's never too late to say yes to the call.
EPISODE TOPICS: • Niki's transition from poetry to songwriting• Discovering songwriting through an unexpected creative moment• Attending her first NCS retreat and falling in love with the craft• Learning melody, structure, and song form without a musical background• Writing songs born from grief, loss, and lament• The death of Niki's parents and how sorrow shaped her songwriting voice• Developing confidence as a vocalist and recording artist• Overcoming fear and self-doubt in the studio• The difference between writing for a notebook and releasing songs into the world• Artist development, mentorship, and long-term growth• Finding purpose and obedience beyond age, background, or expectations
KEY HIGHLIGHTS: • A song that changed everything: Niki describes the moment a poem unexpectedly came out in full song form—melody, structure, and all—launching her songwriting journey. • From Starbucks parking lots to finished albums:Early coaching sessions took place over Zoom while Niki sat bundled in her car outside Starbucks, learning song structure line by line. • Grief as sacred ground:Following the loss of both parents, Niki's songwriting deepened into raw, biblical lament, producing songs like "Million Tears," "Dry as Bone," and "Valley of Shadow and Light." • Becoming an artist later in life: Niki shares the mental and emotional shift required to believe she could sing her own songs and step into the role of an artist. • Studio courage:Recording her first album was terrifying, but with patient coaching, encouragement, and faith, Niki found her voice and confidence. • Two albums born from obedience:Niki released Million Tears followed by My Offering, both rooted in honesty, humility, and deep spiritual reflection. • A quiet but fierce strength:John reflects on Niki's combination of humility, tenacity, and dependence on God as key ingredients in her artistic growth.
FINAL TAKEAWAY: Niki Lou Savich's story is a testament to the beauty that can rise from brokenness. Her journey reminds us that songwriting is not about age, background, or platform—it's about obedience, honesty, and trusting God with the songs He places in our hearts. When we surrender our pain, our fear, and our timing, God can transform even grief into a lasting offering of hope.
Connect with Niki Lou Savich: https://nikilousavich.com/
Learn more:Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Michael Lee Brown
Episode Title: MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting
Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and Broadway actor Michael Lee Brown, best known for his four-year run in Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway. Michael shares his unexpected journey into the NCS studio, his early beginnings in music, his transition from musical theater to singer-songwriter artistry, and the faith-filled moments that shaped his path. He opens up about the disciplines of acting, the joy and challenge of writing authentically, and why storytelling matters now more than ever. This episode offers inspiration for any creative searching for clarity, direction, and renewed passion in their craft.
Episode Topics:
• Michael's early exposure to music and his family's creative influence • The road to Dear Evan Hansen and the meaningful moments that confirmed his path • What it took to perform as Evan, Connor, and Jared • Lessons learned from repetition, preparation, and total immersion in a show • How audience feedback shaped his understanding of the show's impact • Life after Broadway and navigating the post-pandemic creative landscape • Michael's songwriting process for pop and musical theatre • Writing from personal truth versus writing from a character's perspective • John's coaching advice on emotional authenticity in songwriting • The heartfelt inspiration behind Michael's song "Bob's Town" • New music, teaching, and what Michael hopes for in the next season of his career
Key Highlights:
• A meaningful Broadway breakthrough: Michael reflects on years of walking past the Music Box Theatre, imagining himself on that stage, long before Dear Evan Hansen moved there. He later discovered a ring used in his first rehearsal was engraved with the Lord's Prayer—one of several moments that affirmed his steps.
• Becoming the only actor to play all three major male roles: Michael shares the strategy, training, mental discipline, and repetition required to perform Evan, Connor, and Jared at different times throughout the show's run.
• The emotional weight and reward of the work: Letters, conversations with fans, and powerful audience reactions reinforced the deep impact Dear Evan Hansen had on people of all ages.
• Songwriting as a window into the soul: Michael describes his usual melody-first writing approach, how musical theatre requires a different process, and the tension between writing catchy songs versus revealing more vulnerable personal truth.
• The power of story in "Bob's Town": Michael explains the inspiration behind the song, which honors a man named Bob and the small town that lovingly supported him. The story underscores the beauty of simple kindness and everyday humanity.
- Looking ahead: Michael is actively auditioning, writing new music, teaching voice and acting, and preparing to release more songs in the coming year.
Resources & Links:
Connect with Michael Lee Brown:
https://www.michaelleebrown.com/
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
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Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship
Episode Summary:
In this episode, John welcomes an extraordinary lineup of worship leaders and vocal powerhouses—Alvin Slaughter, Steven McWhirter, and TaRanda Greene—along with the vision behind StowTown Worship's new project, Live from the Iron Manor. What began as a desire to bless worship pastors at the Metro Conference grew into a powerful night of worship, featuring reimagined classics, newly arranged favorites, and cross-generational, cross-genre collaboration.
The group discusses the heart behind the project, the importance of unity in the church, breaking down stylistic walls, and stewarding songs that serve real people in real church pews. They also introduce StowTown Resource, a new comprehensive tool designed to equip churches with high-quality arrangements, stems, charts, and orchestrations—including the entire Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog.
This episode is rich with testimony, humility, humor, and a deep passion for ministering to God's people through music.
Episode Topics:
- The origins of the StowTown Worship project
- The spiritual and musical vision behind Live from the Iron Manor
- Cross-generational worship and breaking down stylistic divides
- Crafting fresh arrangements of classic worship songs
- How worship transcends genre, age, and background
- Memories and legacy moments from Brooklyn Tabernacle
- Personal ministry journeys, testimonies, and career highlights
- Capturing the presence of God through united worship
- The launch of StowTown Resource and what it offers churches
- Serving people beyond the stage with authenticity and compassion
Key Highlights:
- TaRanda Greene explains how the project began as a simple desire to bless worship pastors and evolved into a full recording featuring a powerhouse lineup.
- Alvin Slaughter reflects on his 35 years of ministry, Brooklyn Tabernacle roots, and renewed inspiration for recording again.
- Steven McWhirter shares the real-life basement moment behind "Come Jesus Come" and the humility surrounding his recent Dove Award win.
- The team discusses why songs must serve the hearts of real congregations, not just the stage or the worship industry.
- Fresh arrangements of classics like "Holy, Holy, Holy," "Heart of Worship," and "For God So Loved" were intentionally shaped to break down denominational and stylistic walls.
- The room of worship pastors at the Metro Conference became an active choir—captured on the live recording.
- StowTown Resource officially launches, offering charts, stems, orchestrations, rehearsal tools, and the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog all in one place.
- A strong emphasis emerges: unity, sincerity, and a kingdom mindset must drive modern worship ministry.
Final Takeaway
At its core, the StowTown Worship project reflects a simple truth: worship is about people encountering God—together. Whether through timeless hymns, brand-new songs, or powerful reimagined arrangements, what matters most is unity, authenticity, and a heart that serves the church. The night at the Iron Manor captured this beautifully, and the launch of StowTown Resource ensures that churches everywhere can carry that same spirit into their own worship ministries.
Resources & Links:
Keep up with StowTown Worship!
https://stowtownrecords.com/stowtown-worship
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting
Episode Summary:
In this festive episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum and co-host Bryant Urich dive into the art and craft of writing Christmas songs. From exploring why holiday music resonates so deeply to analyzing the lyrical and musical trends behind the world's biggest Christmas hits, this conversation is packed with practical ideas, humor, and real-world insights for songwriters.
John and Bryant discuss everything from nostalgic memories and classic hymns to modern Christmas pop, offering guidance on how to approach seasonal songwriting with authenticity, originality, and skill. Whether you're crafting a worshipful Advent ballad or a fun, hooky holiday pop song, this episode equips you with tools to write songs that truly connect.
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Why Christmas songs matter and how nostalgia, memory, and emotion fuel their impact
- Lyrical themes of top Christmas songs based on research and data
- Musical traits that dominate Christmas hits including major keys, sleigh bells, and swing feels
- Using sensory details to make lyrics more vivid and relatable
- Finding original ideas by drawing from personal memories, traditions, and real experiences
- Analyzing classics and modern hits from Bing Crosby to Mariah Carey
- Using hymnals and older carols as starting points for new song ideas
- The importance of strong hooks and pre-writing in seasonal songwriting
- Why great Christmas songs evoke emotion first and facts second
- The role of chord extensions (like major 7ths) in creating a warm, wistful holiday sound
- Why many artists write Christmas music in the middle of the year and what that teaches about discipline
- Encouragement for writers who want to grow in skill, craft, and confidence
Final Thought
Christmas songs endure because they make us feel something. Whether you're writing from nostalgia, faith, longing, or joy, the key is to create with intentionality and skill. When you pair heartfelt inspiration with craftsmanship, your holiday songs can stand out, connect deeply, and carry meaning far beyond the season.
Resources & Links:
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God
Episode Summary:
In this inspiring episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, worship leader, and author Jamie Jamgochian for a rich conversation about creativity, calling, spiritual formation, and her new book Sacred Surrender: The Practice of Waiting Well with God.
Jamie shares her personal journey from studying jazz at Berklee, to encountering Jesus at twenty-one, to navigating a decades-long career in Christian music as a Dove Award-nominated artist. She opens up about seasons of waiting, chronic illness, finding healing through quieter forms of worship, and discovering God's presence in silence and stillness.
Together, John and Jamie explore the challenges of slowing down in a noisy culture, the practice of surrendering personal dreams, and the beauty of connecting with God through meditative music, spontaneous worship, and simple moments of presence. They also talk about mentoring younger artists, developing spiritual resilience, and writing from a place of honesty and trust.
What You'll Learn:
- The heart behind Jamie's new book Sacred Surrender
- How to wait on God with trust, peace, and purpose
- Why silence and stillness are essential for spiritual health
- How chronic illness reshaped Jamie's relationship with worship
- The difference between waiting on God and waiting with God
- How meditative music can bring healing, peace, and connection
- Why surrender is a daily practice, not a one-time moment
- The importance of community, mentorship, and staying grounded as an artist
- Practical advice for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders
- How to let God dream through you instead of forcing your own plans
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Jamie's early journey as a jazz-trained pianist and her conversion at twenty-one
- Life at Berklee, early performance career, and coming to faith
- Seasons of illness, including Lyme disease, and how quiet worship sustained her
- Creating piano meditations and spontaneous worship recordings
- The inspiration behind Sacred Surrender and the discipline of waiting well
- Learning to listen to God through silence, boredom, and stillness
- How surrender frees us from pressure, comparison, and unrealistic timelines
- Developing spiritual maturity and emotional health before chasing platform
- Jamie's heart for mentoring young female artists in Nashville
- Why honing your craft and creating your own opportunities matters
- Trusting God's timing over the industry's timeline
Final Thought:
True transformation happens not in the spotlight but in the quiet spaces where surrender becomes a way of life. Jamie reminds us that walking with God means releasing our timelines, deepening our trust, and practicing presence daily. When we learn to wait well with God, we discover a richer, steadier, more grounded life—one where creativity flows from peace, not pressure.
Resources & Links:
Keep up with all that Jamie is doing!
https://www.jaimejam.com/
Check out Jamie's book, Sacred Surrender.
https://ffm.bio/sacredsurrender
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Mary Lou Kayser
Episode Title: The Power of Poetry
Episode Summary
In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes poet, author, and creative entrepreneur Mary Lou Kayser for a deeply moving and thought-provoking conversation on art, creativity, and what it means to live—and write—fully in a digital age. Mary Lou shares her journey as a teacher, writer, and poet, exploring how the rapid shift into the digital world impacts human connection and creativity. She opens up about loss, love, and the role poetry plays in healing and transformation, reading two poignant pieces from her poetry collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way.
Through her work and wisdom, Mary Lou challenges listeners to reconnect with their creative selves, embrace authenticity, and make peace with their past while courageously stepping into the unknown.
Key Topics & Highlights
- Life in Transition: How Mary Lou moved from teaching literature to fully embracing life as a writer and creative entrepreneur.
- The Digital Dilemma: Understanding how the algorithm era impacts art, purpose, and human connection.
- The Power of Poetry: Why poetry still matters—and how it can heal, illuminate, and connect us.
- Teaching and Transformation: Lessons from the classroom that shaped her creative voice and worldview.
- Loss and Renewal: How grief, love, and change inspired her collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way.
- The Craft of Writing: The importance of revision, reflection, and returning to one's work with new eyes.
- Poetry vs. Songwriting: Exploring the similarities and differences between written verse and lyrical composition.
- The Courage to Create: Why waiting to share your art is the biggest mistake—and how to release your work fearlessly.
Memorable Quotes
"Loneliness is a compass guiding you toward becoming more of who you've always been." – Mary Lou Kayser
"If you are being called to create—don't wait. Time is always moving, and the river only runs one way." – Mary Lou Kayser
"How can we expect to write beautiful words if we're not filled with them?" – John Chisum
Final Thought
Mary Lou reminds us that art is not just about expression—it's about connection, transformation, and courage. Whether you're a poet, songwriter, or storyteller, your creativity is a bridge between the human and the divine. Don't wait for the "right" time. Create now, share freely, and trust the river to carry your words where they need to go.
Resources & Links:
Connect with Mary Lou Kayser and "Play Your Position" Podcast: maryloukayser.com
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers
Guest: Ed Rode, Iconic Nashville Photographer and Author of "Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville's Iconic Storytellers and Players"
Host: John Chisum
Episode Summary
In this visually rich and inspiring episode, host John Chisum sits down with celebrated photographer Ed Rode, whose lens has captured some of the most iconic figures in music—from Chet Atkins, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson to Taylor Swift and Vince Gill. Through his stunning photography and storytelling, Ed shares how a 35-year journey documenting Nashville's creative legends turned into his new coffee table book, Songwriter: Musician.
Together, John and Ed explore the intersection of photography, songwriting, and storytelling, revealing how every frame—and every lyric—has the power to invite people into a meaningful moment. Ed reflects on the mentorship of Chet Atkins, his experiences photographing legends like Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton, and the emotional encounters that defined his career, including a powerful moment with Glen Campbell near the end of his life.
This episode is a celebration of creativity in all forms and a reminder that great art—whether a photograph or a song—comes from deep observation, patience, and heart.
Key Topics & Highlights
- The Origins of Ed's Career: How a chance encounter with Chet Atkins led to decades of photographing music legends.
- Storytelling Across Mediums: Why photography and songwriting share the same DNA—inviting others into a moment.
- The Art of Capturing Authenticity: How Ed disarms his subjects to reveal the truest version of themselves.
- Mentorship and Mastery: What Ed learned from icons like Chet Atkins and why mentorship shapes creative excellence.
- The Soul of a Photograph: Behind-the-scenes stories with Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, and Glen Campbell.
- Work Ethic vs. Talent: The balance between natural ability, discipline, and the willingness to grow.
- Creativity in the Digital Age: Why true storytelling and human perspective can never be replaced by AI.
- Teaching and Giving Back: How Ed now passes on his craft as a photography instructor, continuing the cycle of creativity.
Final Takeaway
Whether through a song or a photograph, creativity is about storytelling that connects hearts. Ed Rode's journey reminds us that art isn't just about talent—it's about persistence, curiosity, and the courage to see beauty in every fleeting moment. As he says, "We're all storytellers," and every story told from the heart has the power to inspire.
Resources & Links:
Connect with Ed Rode edrode.com
Book: Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville's Iconic Storytellers and Players Available online and at the Country Music Hall of Fame Store.
Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: The Skill of Rewriting
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with NCS Vice President of A&R and Production, Bryant Urich, to dive deep into the art and discipline of rewriting songs. As part of the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge, they explore why rewriting is essential to crafting powerful, lasting songs—and how humility, skill, and intentionality play key roles in the process.
From Clark Beckham's new songwriting courses to the band Eauclaire's latest release, John and Bryant also share exciting NCS updates and practical encouragement for songwriters at every level. Whether you're polishing your next worship anthem or trying to take your lyric from good to great, this episode offers real-world insights that will elevate your songwriting craft.
Key Topics & Highlights:
- The importance of rewriting month in the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge
- How professional songwriters approach rewriting and editing
- Balancing inspiration with skill and craft
- Why "writing is rewriting" — the mindset that separates hobbyists from pros
- Overcoming false humility and defensiveness about your work
- Pre-writing and research as essential steps toward great songs
- Strengthening your hook and title through rhyme and alliteration
- Keeping focus on the "One Big Idea" (OBI) in every song
- The emotional power of songs—why listeners remember how you made them feel
- Upcoming NCS resources, courses, and community updates
Final Thought: Rewriting isn't about undoing your inspiration—it's about refining it. Every great songwriter knows that inspiration starts the fire, but skill shapes it into something lasting. When you're willing to revisit your work with humility and fresh eyes, you give your songs the chance to truly speak to others.
Resources & Links:
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title:
Steele Crosswhite & Caleb Yetton: From Rock to Redemption
Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with Steele Crosswhite and Caleb Yetton from The Rock Church in Salt Lake City, Utah. Once a rock musician sharing stages with artists like the Foo Fighters, Sheryl Crow, and Maroon 5, Steele encountered the grace of Jesus and traded the spotlight for a life of ministry and songwriting rooted in the local church.
Together with Caleb, a fellow pastor and musician, Steele shares how God transformed his music and mission—leading to Captured by Grace, a record originally released twenty years ago and now beautifully reimagined for a new generation. The conversation dives into faith, creativity, and how great songs can grow from obedience and community within the local church.
What You'll Learn:
- How Steele's encounter with Jesus radically changed his life and music
- The story behind Captured by Grace and its 20-year anniversary re-release
- Why The Rock Church's music ministry is thriving in a challenging cultural landscape
- How songwriting can serve as a tool for mission and discipleship
- The importance of local church creativity and community-driven worship
- How music from Utah is impacting lives far beyond the state's borders
Key Topics & Highlights:
- From rock and roll to ministry – Steele's transition from touring with major acts to leading music at The Rock Church.
- Captured by Grace – the inspiration, writing process, and new arrangements for the 20th anniversary project.
- Partnership and vision – how Caleb and Steele co-pastor, co-create, and lead a thriving creative community.
- Local church as a creative hub – empowering artists to make excellent music that reaches their own communities.
- Utah as a mission field – ministering in one of the least evangelical states in the U.S. through authentic worship.
- Timeless songwriting – how songs like "Matters" continue to resonate 20 years later with new life and production.
- Collaboration and legacy – involving new musicians and worship leaders in revisiting classic songs.
Final Takeaway:
Steele Crosswhite and Caleb Yetton remind us that when we give God our gifts, He gives them back refined with purpose. Whether on a stage or in a small church, great music begins with obedience, community, and a heart fully captured by grace.
Resources & Links:
Listen to Steele Crosswhite, Caleb Yetton, and The Rock Music!
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1EqgZg4Y6LDJPlkbi7mWcF?si=cSrldCtmSyy_luV8KxNipw
https://open.spotify.com/artist/27zD09dXJnOpZ3qfeXpzu8?si=KVnMeqm7RGKU3HcQxufi6w
https://open.spotify.com/artist/0c8xYlEYETimOaLlGZcMVk?si=AjZJ1QwzTKiVrzv8jP2zpg
Visit therockmusic.org for updates, music, and church information.
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: DAWN & STEVE: Faith, Radio, and Soul Care
Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum turns the tables and welcomes longtime radio hosts Dawn Ray May and Steve Hiller, formerly of Moody Radio and now co-hosts of the Dawn and Steve Plus podcast. With decades of experience in Christian radio, Dawn and Steve share stories of their broadcasting journeys, memorable interviews with iconic artists, and the lessons they've learned about faith, resilience, and community. The conversation also dives deep into mental health, soul care, and why creating safe spaces for healing is central to their new podcast ministry.
What You'll Learn:
- How Dawn and Steve built careers in Christian radio.
- Memorable stories from interviews with artists like Stephen Curtis Chapman, Jeremy Camp, and Twila Paris.
- The shift from radio to podcasting and the freedom it brings.
- Dawn's personal journey through grief, trauma, and healing after her father's death.
- Why mental health and soul care are at the heart of their podcast.
- The importance of safe community, counseling, and practical soul care for Christians today.
Key Topics & Highlights:
- The power of radio and music ministry – how songs and interviews shaped their years at Moody.
- From radio to podcasting – navigating the challenges and new freedoms of digital media.
- Personal story of loss and healing – Dawn's testimony of finding hope through counseling after trauma.
- Breaking stigma in the church – honest conversations about counseling, mental health, and faith.
- Addiction, connection, and boundaries – insights from their counselor guest, Phil Herndon.
- The mission of Dawn and Steve Plus – encouraging, inspiring, and pointing listeners to Jesus through honest, hope-filled dialogue.
Final Takeaway:
Dawn and Steve's story is one of resilience, faith, and obedience. From years in radio to launching a podcast focused on soul care and the gospel, they remind us that God can use every part of our story—our gifts, our pain, and our healing—to encourage and build up others.
Resources & Links:
Keep up with Dawn & Steve
www.dawnandsteveplus.com
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: American Idol Finalist on Songwriting & Surrender
Episode Summary:
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, musician, and American Idol finalist Clark Beckham. Known for his soulful voice and authentic artistry, Clark shares his journey from small-town beginnings to national recognition and beyond. The conversation dives deep into the balance between ambition and surrender, the lessons learned from rejection and waiting, and how faith anchors him through every season of the creative process.
Clark opens up about his experiences in the spotlight, the realities of the music industry, and how staying grounded in God's timing has reshaped his approach to songwriting. He also discusses how true artistry comes from honesty, craftsmanship, and humility rather than chasing trends or fame.
What You'll Learn:
- Clark's journey from church musician to American Idol finalist
- How fame and faith intersect in a culture of instant success
- Why patience and humility are essential in the creative process
- The importance of writing songs that come from truth, not pressure
- Lessons learned about identity, calling, and creative stewardship
- How to balance musical ambition with spiritual contentment
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Early beginnings – discovering music in the church and learning multiple instruments
- The American Idol experience – highs, challenges, and how it shaped Clark's character
- Faith through waiting – trusting God's timing when dreams seem delayed
- Songwriting as honesty – why vulnerability and craft outweigh hype and algorithms
- Navigating the industry – what Clark learned about labels, fame, and staying authentic
- Spiritual maturity in art – how surrender leads to stronger songs and deeper peace
- Creating from overflow – writing songs from what God is doing in your life, not for validation
Final Takeaway:
Clark Beckham's story is a reminder that success in music—and in life—isn't about speed or visibility but about faithfulness. God's timing is perfect, and the songs that last are born from honesty, surrender, and a heart that trusts Him fully.
Resources & Links:
Follow Clark Beckham on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/clarkbeckham/
Visit Clark's website: clarkbeckham.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: MIA FIELDES: Writing From Revelation
Episode Summary
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum sits down with acclaimed songwriter and worship leader Mia Fieldes, whose songs have been recorded by artists like Lauren Daigle, Zach Williams, Phil Wickham, Kim Walker-Smith, and many more. From growing up in poverty and seasons of homelessness to becoming one of the most prolific voices in modern worship, Mia shares how faith, perseverance, and gratitude have shaped her journey. With honesty and humor, she opens up about her songwriting process, contending for miracles, and the importance of stewarding your gifts with diligence.
What You'll Learn:
- How Mia overcame early hardships and developed unshakable faith.
- Why gratitude is a key to unlocking God's promises.
- The story behind writing Chain Breaker with Zach Williams.
- Why being a specialist is vital for songwriters.
- How to balance inspiration, discipline, and co-writing partnerships.
- Why faith should sometimes feel "offensive" in a culture of self-reliance.
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Gratitude as a lifestyle – learning to thank God as an access point to His promises.
- Developing your craft – why excellence and hard work matter more than talent alone.
- Writing from revelation – how songs like Fierce and Tremble were born from real-life moments and prayers.
- Faith as a muscle – how persevering through trials strengthens belief.
- Stewardship in songwriting – becoming a "specialist" rather than a generalist.
- Miracle stories – contending for healing, children, and breakthrough despite impossibility.
- The bigger calling – why your life mission goes beyond music and how to carry faith into every moment.
Final Takeaway:
Mia's story is a testimony of resilience, faith, and the power of stewarding your gifts well. Her journey reminds us that God can, He will, and He wants to—and that our agreement with His promises can change everything.
Resources & Links:
Follow Mia Fieldes on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/miafieldes/reels/?hl=en
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Does God Really Give You Songs?
Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich tackle one of the most frequently asked—and often misunderstood—questions among songwriters: Does God really give you songs?
As Nashville Christian Songwriters celebrates its 10th anniversary, John and Bryant reflect on thousands of conversations with writers over the years who have wrestled with this very idea. Together, they unpack the difference between divine inspiration and developed craft, the tension between personal meaning and commercial viability, and how comparison and expectations can distort the creative process.
With honesty and humor, John and Bryant explore how to honor inspiration while still doing the hard work of rewriting, editing, and learning the skills that make songs accessible, singable, and lasting.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why so many writers say, “God gave me this song”
- The difference between inspiration and craftsmanship
- How comparison with big-name writers can hinder your growth
- Why singability, hooks, and editing matter in songwriting
- The role of influence and platform in a song’s success
- Why humility and stewardship are essential for every songwriter
Key Topics & Highlights:
- John’s 3,000+ conversations with aspiring songwriters over 10 years
- The sensitive nature of claiming “God gave me this song”
- How inspiration often comes through our own skills, training, and background
- Why accessibility and clarity make songs “sticky” and memorable
- The influence of platforms like Hillsong, Bethel, and Chris Tomlin on worship music
- The difference between good songs and commercial songs
- Why one song can launch a ministry—but many songs may never leave your journal
- The importance of being open to rewriting and receiving feedback
- Why personal transformation through songwriting is as important as public impact
Final Takeaway: Yes, God does inspire songs—but inspiration alone doesn’t make you a great songwriter. True growth comes from humility, stewardship, and developing your craft so that the songs God births in you can reach and impact others.
Resources & Links:
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: Claire Bacon, Bryant Urich, Chris Crenshaw, Kyle Kicker, and Jack Landis
Episode Title: STAFF EDITION: NCS Staff Takeover
Episode Summary: In this special episode of Song Revolution, the microphones are turned toward the Nashville Christian Songwriters staffas the team celebrates NCS’s upcoming 10-year anniversary. With John Chisum away on vacation, Claire, Bryant, Chris, Kyle, and Jack take over to share their stories, talk about their paths to NCS, and give listeners a glimpse of the unique personalities that make up the heart of the organization.
From music industry journeys and Springfield connections, to rapid-fire fun questions like “Is cereal a soup?”—this episode is equal parts insightful and entertaining. Along the way, the team reflects on their own defining moments in music, the role of community, and why they love serving songwriters through NCS.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How each NCS team member found their way into music and ministry
- The “Springfield theory” and why so many of the team come from a Springfield
- Defining moments that sparked a love for music and creativity
- How NCS serves songwriters through publishing, coaching, community, and production
- The highs and lows of today’s music industry and what the future may hold
- Lighthearted team banter, rapid-fire questions, and behind-the-scenes laughs
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Jack’s journey from interning at NCS to joining the team full-time
- Chris’s background as a youth pastor, event organizer, and touring drummer
- Claire’s path from Bethel Music and label work to NCS publishing and project management
- Kyle’s experiences as a worship pastor and band member before moving to Nashville
- Bryant’s early Nashville days, publishing insights, and role in building the NCS community
- The Springfield, Ohio/Missouri connection and its surprising role in the team’s stories
- Honest reflections on the realities of today’s streaming-driven music business
- Fun debates: doors vs. wheels, cereal as soup, and musician pet peeves
Final Takeaway: Behind every great song is a community of people who believe in its potential. The NCS team exists to serve, support, and encourage songwriters from all walks of life, proving that creativity thrives best in connection.
Resources & Links:
Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Episode Title: ANDREW GREER: Mysticism, Minimalism, and Music
Episode Summary
In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes back singer-songwriter, producer, and filmmaker Andrew Greer for another deep and thought-provoking conversation. From literature and scripture to mysticism, minimalism, and music, John and Andrew explore how faith, creativity, and a posture of humility shape our art and our lives.
Andrew shares about his move from Nashville to the small town of Plains, Georgia, and how a slower pace has opened up new margins for community and creativity. Together they wrestle with ideas of certainty, control, and judgment in faith, drawing wisdom from mystics, the Civil Rights Movement, and Andrew’s latest record, Songs from the Dark.
If you’ve ever struggled with doubt, wrestled with control, or wondered how to connect your spiritual life more deeply to your art, this conversation is for you.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- Why Andrew believes books and literature fuel creativity and songwriting
- How mystics like Thomas Merton and Meister Eckhart influence faith and art
- The danger of certainty in faith and how doubt actually strengthens belief
- Lessons from the Civil Rights Movement on humility, justice, and love
- Andrew’s songwriting process behind Songs from the Dark
- The power of laying down judgment and control to live in freedom
Key Topics & Highlights
Books & Spiritual Reading
- Andrew and John discuss the influence of authors like Thomas Merton, Mother Teresa, NT Wright, and Richard Foster.
- The value of memoirs and literature in opening perspectives beyond scripture alone.
- Scripture itself as mystery and mysticism, especially in the Gospels and books of wisdom.
Mysticism & Faith
- The infinite nature of God and our being—living forever as an endless journey of discovery.
- Faith as uncertainty and openness rather than rigid certainty.
- Letting go of control, judgment, and resistance to embrace communion with God and others.
Justice, Prejudice & Love
- Reflections on the Civil Rights Movement and Andrew Young’s example of radical love.
- Loving our enemies as a revolutionary act of following Jesus.
- Challenging cultural and religious biases that distort the Gospel’s radical call to love.
Creativity & Inspiration
- How reading literature and scripture fuels songwriting and artistic expression.
- Music as communion with God, often born out of darkness, mystery, and unknowing.
- Andrew’s latest album Songs from the Dark, including tracks “Rescue Me” and “Hands,” which emerged from conflict, grief, and the pandemic.
Suffering, Presence & Surrender
- John shares his heart attack experience and practicing “being with the pain” instead of resisting it.
- The grace of letting go of resistance and shame, allowing God’s presence even in suffering.
Final Thought
This conversation reminds us that faith and creativity both thrive in openness, mystery, and surrender—not certainty or control. Whether through books, music, or life’s hardest experiences, God continually invites us into deeper communion, where judgment gives way to love, and darkness can give birth to unexpected light.
Resources & Links:
Connect with Andrew Greer:
andrew-greer.com
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum, Claire Bacon, & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Inside Music Publishing
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum is joined by Claire Bacon and Bryant Urich from the NCS team for a lively and practical discussion on music publishing. Together, they break down the difference between creative and administrative publishing, share behind-the-scenes stories from Claire’s time at Bethel Music, and explore how co-writing, retreats, and publishing support can shape a songwriter’s career.
The conversation also dives into the DIY side of publishing—what it means to take control of your rights and royalties, how to avoid getting lost in the sea of mediocre songs released every day, and why honing your craft is essential if you want to stand out.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The difference between creative and administrative publishing
- Why pairing the right writers together makes or breaks a song
- Stories from Claire’s experience interning at Bethel Music
- The role of writing retreats and camps in developing strong songs
- How to DIY your publishing if you don’t have a company backing you
- Why focusing on quality and intentionality helps your songs stand out
Key Topics & Highlights:
- Claire’s journey from MTSU to Bethel Music to NCS
- The matchmaking side of creative publishing and how it shapes songwriting sessions
- How NCS retreats create powerful co-writing opportunities
- The challenge of standing out among millions of songs released each year
- Avoiding vague lyrics and writing with genre and purpose in mind
- Favorite songwriters and the impact of writers like Mia Fieldes, Cody Carnes, and Benjamin William Hastings
Final Takeaway: Music publishing is more than contracts and royalties—it’s about connection, collaboration, and ensuring your songs have the best chance to thrive. Whether through a publisher or by learning the DIY path, understanding the business side of songwriting is just as important as mastering the craft.
Resources & Links:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling
Host: John Chisum
Episode Summary: In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter, producer, author, and documentarian Andrew Greer to Song Revolution. From his early days growing up in Texas with music all around him, to his time at Belmont University, and now as a respected artist and filmmaker, Andrew shares how music has always been more than sound—it has been a divine meeting point and a lifelong connection to God.
Andrew opens up about discovering music as collaboration with the Creator, the spiritual weight of art, and how songwriters and storytellers carry the yearning for belonging and acceptance. He and John dive into the mystery of creativity, the intersection of sacred and “secular” art, and the role of music in healing, connection, and co-creation with God.
This first part of the interview also explores Andrew’s reflections on growing up with thoughtful parents, his deep love for liner notes, the importance of songwriting beyond categories, and the spiritual resonance of great artists from Joni Mitchell to Roberta Flack.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Andrew’s early encounter with music and its connection to faith
- How music serves as collaboration with our Creator
- The difference between original sin and original virtue in shaping our lives
- Why songwriting is about more than “Christian” or “secular” categories
- How great art and music point us toward belonging and acceptance
- Andrew’s insights on the indie music landscape and why it’s a great time for creators
Key Topics & Highlights:
- The spiritual role of music as connection and belonging
- How Andrew discovered a calling for songwriting and storytelling at an early age
- The influence of his parents and church community on shaping his worldview
- Why labeling art as sacred vs. secular often misses the deeper point
- Stories from Andrew’s journey at Belmont University and launching into music
- Insights on how artists like Joni Mitchell, Roberta Flack, and others shaped his perspective
- Why vulnerability and honesty in songwriting resonate more deeply than formulas
Final Takeaway: At its heart, music is not about categories or success—it is about connection. Whether writing songs, producing stories, or simply listening, music offers us a chance to collaborate with God and remind one another that we belong.
Resources & Links:
Explore Andrew Greer’s work:
https://www.andrew-greer.com/
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum, Claire Bacon, & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Music Publishing in 2025
Episode Summary: Season 3 of Song Revolution continues with a practical and eye-opening conversation on one of the most misunderstood topics in the music industry: publishing. Hosts John Chisum, Claire Bacon, and Bryant Urich break down what publishing really means in 2025, how it has changed from the traditional gatekeeper model of the past, and why understanding it is essential for every songwriter.
From copyright protection to royalty collection, from self-publishing to partnering with a publisher, this episode offers clarity and encouragement to help you take control of your songs and your future. If you’ve ever wondered whether you need a publisher, how to register your songs, or how to build the right relationships in the industry, this discussion will give you practical steps forward.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The difference between copyright and publishing
- How publishing has evolved from gatekeepers to digital access
- The two sides of publishing: administration vs. creative development
- Why many songwriters choose self-publishing today
- What publishers actually do for songwriters
- How to know if you’re ready for a publishing deal
- Why relationships matter more than cold submissions
- How to find community and connection no matter where you live
Key Topics and Highlights:
- John’s early Nashville days and the old gatekeeper model of publishing
- Claire’s experience developing writers and matching them in the right rooms
- Bryant’s perspective on band publishing and handling royalties as a group
- The importance of building your own foundation before seeking a publisher
- How marketing and publishing have become two separate tracks
- Practical steps every songwriter can take on their own: registering songs, networking, showcasing your work, and learning the basics of copyright
Memorable Quotes from the Episode:
“Copyright is about protection. Publishing is about getting your song out there.” “A publisher’s job is to elevate what you’re already doing—not create it for you.” “So much of making music today is DIY, and that’s a good thing.” “Publishing isn’t just about royalties—it’s about relationships.”
Final Takeaway: You don’t need a publisher to get started, but you do need to understand publishing. By learning the basics, building relationships, and developing your craft, you’ll be ready when the right opportunities come.
Resources & Links:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum
Episode Title: MADALYN ROSE: Forgiveness, Faith, and Finding Your Voice
Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down in Moab, Utah, with emerging singer-songwriter Madalyn Rose to talk about her journey through personal loss, rebuilding her life, and finding healing through songwriting. From her Montana roots to worship leading in Colorado, Madalyn shares how grief, forgiveness, and faith have shaped both her music and her outlook on life.
The conversation dives deep into the stories behind her songs, including “See What Grows,” a reflection on the power of letting go, and “Who You Leave Behind,” written for her church’s legacy series. With honesty and warmth, Madalyn recounts pivotal moments—like singing with Allen Stone at the Heaven on Earth Festival—that affirmed her calling and opened unexpected doors.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
How personal tragedy can shape songwriting and deepen artistry
Why forgiveness is key to emotional and spiritual freedom
The backstory of “See What Grows” and “Who You Leave Behind”
How to stay open to God’s leading in creative and personal decisions
The role of community and connection in sustaining an artist’s journey
Why saying “yes” to small promptings can lead to life-changing moments
Key Topics and Highlights:
- Navigating the loss of her mother and the breakdown of her marriage in the same season
- Choosing forgiveness over bitterness and the spiritual transformation it sparked
- The inspiration and meaning behind “See What Grows”
- How a leap of faith at the Heaven on Earth Festival led to performing with Allen Stone
- Balancing worship leading, songwriting, and motherhood
- The story of receiving a dream guitar through an unexpected act of generosity
- Trusting God to weave together opportunities and connections in His timing
Quotes from the Episode:
“Forgiveness is the only path to freedom we have.” “I didn’t mean it when I said it, but the Lord started doing a work in my heart.” “God saved me from building up walls.”
Final Takeaway: Your story, no matter how painful, can become a song that touches others. By choosing forgiveness, staying tenderhearted, and following God’s quiet nudges, you open the door for beauty to grow from brokenness.
Resources & Links:
Follow Madalyn Rose on Instagram: @iammadalynrose
Listen to Madalyn’s music on Spotify & Apple Music under Madalyn Rose
https://linktr.ee/madalynnrosemusic
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Time, Tithe, and Talent
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum and Bryant Urich shift the focus inward to explore what it really means to be a songwriter in today’s world. Beyond writing lyrics and melodies, this conversation is about discovering the deeper motivations that drive your creative work—your identity, purpose, and the integrity behind the songs you share.
John and Bryant discuss the pressures that come with songwriting in the Christian space, the temptation to chase trends, and the challenge of staying spiritually grounded in the process. With honest stories and practical insight, they offer encouragement to writers at any stage—whether you’re just getting started or trying to reignite your creative spark.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Why songwriting is as much about spiritual formation as it is about craft
How to stay connected to your purpose when writing gets hard
The danger of creating to be seen or validated by others
Why your identity must be rooted in something deeper than public approval
How personal growth leads to stronger, more honest songs
Why songwriting is a long game that rewards consistency and humility
Key Topics and Highlights:
- The internal conflict many songwriters face between calling and performance
- Why it’s okay to take breaks when creativity feels dry
- John’s reflections on mentoring writers through burnout and self-doubt
- Bryant’s experience rediscovering joy in the process of writing, not just releasing
- The power of writing songs that minister to you before they minister to others
- Letting go of perfectionism and pressure to produce commercial work
- Writing from a place of wholeness instead of striving
- The value of community, coaching, and trusted feedback in your journey
Final Takeaway: Your songs matter—but not because of streams, charts, or recognition. They matter because they’re a reflection of your story, your journey, and your willingness to be honest with God and others. When you write from that place, the impact will follow.
Resources & Links:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum
Guest: Dan Dean
Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean
Episode Summary: In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted ministry, and a newly released solo album, More. From early cassette recordings to leading worship across the globe, Dan opens up about perseverance, songwriting, the power of legacy, and why he’s more inspired than ever to keep creating.
What You’ll Hear:
Dan’s early journey from solo artist to founding member of Phillips, Craig & Dean
Behind-the-scenes stories from their 30+ year career and 14 studio albums
How one heartfelt war-time promise shaped generations of ministry
The spiritual and emotional layers behind Dan’s new solo album, More
A father-son duet and the family legacy of faith through music
Why beloved songs like “Crucified with Christ” and “Revelation Song” still resonate
Words of encouragement for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders
Featured Songs from More:
“More” – A song of hope written during the isolation of COVID
“Home” – A heartfelt duet with Dan’s son, Devin Dean
“Mother of Boys” – Inspired by a poem written by Dan’s mom
“Never Gets Old” – A touching reflection on the unchanging power of Scripture
Notable Quotes:
“God always has more of what you need.” “You want to hear the songs that brought some kind of emotional or spiritual impact in your life.” “The power of one man’s decision can impact generations.” “It wasn’t always easy, but we were faithful to the call.”
Resources & Links:
Connect with Dan Dean: https://www.dandeanofficial.com/
Follow Dan on Instagram: @danpcd
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Want to Be a Christian Artist?
Episode Summary: Season 3 of Song Revolution kicks off with a powerful conversation between hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich about what it truly means to pursue a calling as a Christian artist. Reflecting on their recent experience at the Heaven on Earth Festival in Moab, Utah, they share personal stories, hard truths, and practical encouragement for artists who feel called to create for the Kingdom.
This episode is about more than music. It’s about authenticity, obedience, and learning to start where you are. Whether you're a worship leader, an indie singer-songwriter, or simply exploring your creative gifts, John and Bryant challenge you to examine your motivation, clarify your calling, and step forward in faith—no matter your stage or platform.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
Why “becoming” is more important than “arriving” in your artist journey
The difference between creating art from identity vs. seeking identity through art
How to start from where you are, without needing to impress or perform
Why your story is your greatest songwriting asset
How comparison, insecurity, and external validation can derail your calling
The importance of community and mentorship in your creative development
Why Christian artistry must be rooted in spiritual obedience, not metrics or success
Key Topics and Highlights:
Takeaways from the Heaven on Earth Festival: worship, storytelling, and deep connection
The false pressure to look like a “real artist” before you actually become one
John’s reflections on his Integrity Music years and what has changed since
Bryant’s honest experience stepping into live performance and finding freedom
The sacredness of your story and how it shapes the songs you write
What Christian artists must understand about calling, identity, and surrender
How coaching, development, and trusted community make a measurable difference
A preview of what’s coming in Season 3 of the podcast
Final Takeaway: Success in Christian music isn’t about being famous. It’s about being faithful. The journey of becoming an artist starts with showing up, stewarding your story, and letting God shape the outcome.
Resources & Links:
Listen to Eauclaire’s music!
https://linktr.ee/eauclaire
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: Bryant Urich
Guest: Justin Gambino
Episode Title: JUSTIN GAMBINO: Turning Trials into Testimony
Episode Summary: In one of the most powerful episodes of Song Revolution to date, host Bryant Urich sits down with recording artist and worship leader Justin Gambino, who shares his raw and redemptive life story—from addiction and criminal charges at age 18, to leading worship in Iraq, to becoming a full-time touring Christian artist.
Raised in church and homeschooled in small-town Texas, Justin began his musical journey strumming his Bible as a boy, only to spiral into a destructive lifestyle during his teenage years. A run-in with the law, followed by a choice between prison and military service, led him to the Navy—and eventually to Iraq, where God quite literally put the guitar back in his hands.
This episode traces Justin’s powerful transformation, the birth of his music career, and the spiritual awakening that reignited his faith. His 2023 album Made New and the ongoing annual revival in his hometown are living proof of God’s faithfulness and redemption.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
How Justin went from addiction and theft to leading worship in Iraq
Why his first deployment became the turning point in his spiritual journey
The role of music in reconnecting with God during his darkest season
How COVID-19 shutdowns helped him rediscover his purpose
What it means to truly surrender your platform and calling to God
The incredible story behind the founding of a county-wide revival in the same courthouse where he once stood trial
Key Moments:
03:00 – Justin’s musical roots and discovering Christian music
10:00 – Addiction, brokenness, and being arrested at 18
13:00 – Choosing military service over a felony conviction
18:00 – Feeling lost in Iraq and reconnecting with God through worship
23:00 – Leading worship for fellow soldiers and rebuilding faith
29:00 – Going full-time in music and launching his career
35:00 – Falling into complacency and chasing popularity in Christian music
39:00 – The spiritual breakthrough during COVID that inspired Made New
43:00 – The full-circle moment of leading worship on the courthouse steps
47:00 – Launching an annual revival and walking in true purpose
Closing Thought: Justin’s story is a reminder that no matter how far you've fallen, God is still writing your story—and sometimes He puts the guitar back in your hands just when you think the music is over.
Resources & Links:
Listen to Justin Gambino’s album Made New on all streaming platforms
Follow Justin on Instagram: @justingambinomusic
Learn more at justingambino.com
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Mapping Your Next Steps in Music Making
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into what it means to build a career in the current music landscape. They break down how the music business has radically changed in recent years, why anyone can now record and distribute music, and what that means for artists trying to rise above the noise.
John and Bryant also get practical, discussing how to identify your “why,” set realistic goals, and map out the next right steps for your music. From learning the craft to investing wisely in production and marketing, they highlight the common pitfalls and the importance of not rushing into expensive projects before your songs are truly ready.
Drawing on stories from artists like Howard Gripp and Katrina Pacheco, they demonstrate how patience, coaching, and strategic planning lead to long-term success. They also stress why building your skills and your message is essential before stepping into the studio or pursuing larger platforms.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How streaming, technology, and user-generated content have transformed the music industry
- Why quality matters more than ever in a market saturated with average songs
- The crucial role of understanding your mission and message as an artist
- Practical examples of artists who took time to develop before seeing breakthroughs
- How to wisely approach production, avoid common traps, and make your money count
- The benefits of mentorship, coaching, and being part of a creative community
Key Topics and Highlights:
- The democratization of music: anyone can now produce and release songs, for better or worse
- Why thousands of songs on Spotify never get a single play—and how to stand out
- How to clarify your “why” so you can create music with clear purpose and focus
- Real-world examples of artists who spent years developing before landing record deals or large ministry opportunities
- Why rushing into the studio often backfires and how to avoid wasting money on songs that aren’t ready
- The role of producers in shaping an authentic sound that fits both your message and your audience
- How NCS helps artists and songwriters at every stage, from first drafts to full-scale releases
Practical Next Steps Discussed:
- Write consistently to hone your craft before anything else
- Record simple demos to capture ideas and start shaping your sound
- Seek out honest feedback and coaching to strengthen your writing
- Decide whether to produce yourself or hire a producer—and how to choose wisely
- Build a plan around your first professional recording rather than jumping in blind
- Understand that making it in music is a long process that requires patience, investment, and strategic growth
Final Takeaway: No matter your age, background, or level of experience, the most important thing is to keep growing in your songwriting, stay clear on your mission, and take the next right step—without skipping the foundation that will make your music truly impactful.
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective - Check out the artists we’re working with!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Special Guest: Chris Weinberg
Episode Title: CHRIS WEINBERG: Build a Business For Your Music
Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Chris Weinberg, a top business and performance coach who has worked with Fortune 500 executives, artists, entertainment companies, and entrepreneurs. As someone who has helped creative professionals turn their passion into a sustainable business, Chris shares valuable insights on what it takes to monetize your music career.
If you’re a songwriter, independent artist, or creative professional trying to navigate the business side of music, this episode is packed with real-world strategies to help you structure your success. Chris breaks down his four pillars for a thriving business—People, Sales, Profit, and Self—and explains why balancing these elements is crucial for any artist looking to grow their career.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The difference between coaching and consulting—and why both matter
- How to think like a CEO of your own music career
- Why artists struggle with the business side of music—and how to overcome it
- The four essential pillars of business success: People, Sales, Profit & Self
- How to build multiple revenue streams as a songwriter and musician
- Practical steps to monetize your music and develop your brand
Key Moments: [03:03] – Chris Weinberg’s journey into coaching & working with creatives [05:52] – Coaching vs. consulting: What’s the difference? [08:27] – The biggest challenges creative people face in business [13:12] – Why successful artists need business coaching [19:08] – Breaking down the four pillars of success [26:07] – The mindset shift: Treating your music as a business, not a hobby [32:52] – The value of investing in coaching for long-term growth [37:09] – Final takeaways: Why you need a plan for success
Get Involved:
Check out what Chris is doing at Well Coached
https://www.wellcoachedconsulting.com/
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: How Music Works Now
Episode Summary: In this kickoff episode for July, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich reflect on the first half of 2025 and introduce the month’s focus: understanding how the music industry works today. They explore the challenges and changes facing songwriters and artists, especially those operating outside traditional industry systems. From redefining what “making it” means to embracing the calling of songwriting at every level, this episode delivers both practical insight and encouragement for Christian creatives.
John and Bryant share lessons from their own journeys, reflect on standout moments from past guests, and unpack why success looks different for everyone—from indie artists like Jason Lovins and Justin Gambino to songwriters working quietly at home. The conversation highlights the importance of obedience, daily faithfulness, and allowing God to shape your creative path—one step at a time.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
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How the definition of “success” in music has evolved
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Why comparison is one of the biggest creativity killers
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What it takes to build a career in today’s indie music economy
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Why obedience and consistency are more valuable than overnight success
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How NCS is helping songwriters at every stage of their journey
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Practical resources to understand the business side of music
Key Moments:
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Reflecting on standout episodes and guests from 2025 so far
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Why the indie artist model is more relevant than ever
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Breaking down the myth of “overnight fame”
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How John rebuilt his music career at age 58
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The power of obedience in creative and career decisions
-Why your journey is valid—no matter what stage you're in
-Resources and book recommendations for navigating the music business
- A preview of upcoming episodes on building a business and mapping your next steps
Recommended Resources:
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How to Make It in the New Music Business by Ari Herstand
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How to Make a Living in the Music Business by Vince Wilcox
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NCS Free Monthly Training – First Monday of each month
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NCS Community for coaching, connection, and weekly support
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Upcoming NCS Songwriting Retreat: October 16–18, 2025
Take the Next Step: Whether you're a hobbyist, a worship leader, or a developing artist, NCS has tools to help you grow. From free resources to deep-dive coaching, you’re invited to take one step forward on your songwriting journey.
Visit nashvillechristiansongwriters.com to learn more, explore our library of past podcast episodes, and access everything from blogs to artist development programs.
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective - Check out the artists we’re working with!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Mandy Morris (Executive Coach, Therapist, EMDR Specialist)
Episode Title: MANDY MORRIS: Overcoming Writers Block with EMDR
Episode Summary: In this compelling episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Mandy Morris, a licensed therapist, executive psychological coach, and EMDR specialist. Together, they explore how trauma, subconscious belief systems, and emotional blocks can interfere with creativity—and how tools like EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) can help artists, songwriters, and leaders break through creative roadblocks and limiting mindsets.
Mandy shares powerful insights into the connection between childhood wiring and adult patterns, how subconscious beliefs shape behavior, and why understanding your emotional makeup is key to unlocking lasting creative freedom. The episode even includes a brief, live EMDR demo where Mandy guides John through a real-time experience of clearing emotional tension.
Whether you're feeling stuck creatively, battling imposter syndrome, or just looking for new ways to access your most authentic work, this episode will offer hope, clarity, and practical tools for healing and breakthrough.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
How subconscious beliefs formed in childhood influence adult creativity and behavior
The difference between conscious and subconscious thinking
How trauma—even small moments—can impact long-term performance and identity
Why “writer’s block” is often a symptom of unresolved emotional patterns
What EMDR is and how it can help you rewire your brain for breakthrough
How to begin healing from the past to access greater peace and productivity
Key Topics Covered:
What executive psychological coaching is and how it can help creatives and leaders
How EMDR works and why it’s effective for emotional healing
The false messages we carry from childhood and how to rewrite them
Why not all creative blocks are craft-related—many are emotional
How bilateral stimulation helps calm the nervous system and open new pathways
Practical advice for songwriters and creatives to process anxiety, fear of failure, and shame
Try It Yourself: Mandy walks John through a live mini-EMDR session focused on the fear of failure. The brief but effective tapping sequence provides a glimpse into how physical and neurological techniques can bring emotional relief and mental clarity—even in just a few minutes.
Closing Thought: You don’t have to stay stuck. Creativity can be restored, and healing is possible. When you clear the emotional clutter, your best work—and your truest self—can finally come through.
Resources & Links:
Learn more about Mandy Morris and her work
https://mandyemorris.com/
Try the So Free app (currently in beta), designed to reset your nervous system in two minutes
https://www.getsofree.com/
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
NCS Collective: Check out our artists!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert
Host: John Chisum
Episode Summary: In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Catholic tradition, Sarah shares how her latest album A New Reality was birthed in a season of silence and questioning.
Together, John and Sarah explore what it means to embrace mystery in the Christian life, the importance of living in the present moment, and how belovedness can become an anchor in seasons of darkness. They also discuss the role of co-writing in Sarah's journey, her musical influences, and the inspiration behind standout tracks like “Galaxies,” “Ghost,” and the beloved fan-favorite “Belovedness.”
Whether you’re navigating your own spiritual desert or longing to write from a deeper place, this episode offers a rich well of encouragement, authenticity, and insight.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How Sarah Kroger discovered her identity as a songwriter through co-writing
- Why gratitude and presence are key to thriving as an artist
- The inspiration and impact of her song “Belovedness”
- How contemplative authors like Henri Nouwen shaped her spiritual growth
- Why living in mystery may be the most authentic form of faith
- Real talk on spiritual silence, deconstruction, and creative perseverance
Key Moments: [01:09] – John welcomes listeners and introduces Sarah Kroger [03:34] – Sarah on gratitude, presence, and the joy of doing what she loves [05:56] – The early passion for music and discovering co-writing [10:24] – Influences from Nouwen, Merton, and Catholic mysticism [13:06] – John and Sarah discuss spiritual darkness and the mystery of God [17:03] – “I am with you always” as a theme through the desert [23:39] – Letting go of old faith feelings and embracing radical immediacy [29:01] – Practicing presence and the discipline of stillness [31:14] – The story behind “Belovedness” and Sarah’s devotional book [36:39] – Exploring “Galaxies” and the divine image within us [38:40] – Writing “Ghost” and choosing sacred, traditional language [40:17] – John reflects on Sarah’s album and the beauty of authenticity
Resources & Links:
Order Sarah Kroger’s devotional Belovedness: Overcoming Your Inner Critic https://sarahkroger.com
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and the Power of Journaling (Part 2)
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Summary: In this follow-up to their previous conversation on song concepts, John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deeper into the craft of generating unforgettable song ideas and titles. Building on the foundation laid in Part 1, they explore how journaling, active listening, and intentional creativity can transform your songwriting from empty to inspired.
John shares lessons learned from his mentors, including Bill and Gloria Gaither, and offers a candid story about missing a major publishing opportunity—proving the importance of doing your homework and understanding your audience. Bryant weighs in with examples from his work in Eauclaire and producing artists through NCS Collective, offering real-world insight on refining ideas and developing a unique artistic voice.
If you’ve ever struggled to turn inspiration into impact, this episode will help you understand why writing regularly, listening broadly, and collaborating openly are key to leveling up as a Christian songwriter.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why journaling is essential for developing your lyric writing voice
- How to find original titles through fragments and lyrical observation
- The value of co-writing and rewriting to create unique songs
- Why great songs start with specificity and universality
- How to listen eclectically and study modern songwriting
- Real examples from NCS Collective, Eauclaire, and more
Key Moments: [02:14] – Heaven on Earth Festival preview (Moab, Utah, July 16) [05:03] – Why unforgettable titles are the core of every great song [06:48] – Lessons from Bill Gaither on writing timeless lyrics [10:23] – How journaling sharpens your creative vocabulary [12:15] – John’s missed opportunity with Chicken Soup for the Soul [14:20] – The cost of not knowing your creative context [16:57] – How melody and rhyme stick with us from childhood [17:57] – Discovering your personal writing voice through journaling [21:34] – Getting inspired by song fragments and rhythmic feel [25:26] – How “Hold On Me” evolved from a beat to a finished track [27:13] – Why spiritual inspiration must still be crafted and refined [30:17] – Balancing nostalgia with modern sound in production [31:40] – The Spotify sweep: a tool to stay current with your genre [33:53] – Creativity is fueled by what you’re consuming [35:12] – How NCS Collective artists are succeeding with strong foundations
Resources & Links:
Register for Heaven on Earth Festival (July 16–19, Moab, UT) https://heavenonearthfestival.com
Listen to Eauclaire’s single “You Me the Kids” https://lnk.to/e-YouMetheKids
Check out “Hold On Me” by John Chisum feat. Phoebe Scott https://open.spotify.com/track/6KAJV2RHqfVcVcBN7heJIF?si=7bcc3352eb2e4064
Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get your free guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Start your 14-day free trial with NCS Community https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community
Explore Pro Song Mastery – Next group opens July 7 https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/psm
Have questions? Contact: info@nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Emily Hostetler (Founder of Heaven on Earth Festival)
Episode Title: EMILY HOSTETLER: Heaven On Earth
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum is joined by special guest Emily Hostetler, founder of the Heaven on Earth music festival—a unique and immersive Christian music and wellness event held in stunning locations like Jackson Hole, Wyoming and Moab, Utah.
Emily shares her journey of discovering God's love throughout her life—from a childhood of spiritual curiosity in Boulder, Colorado to shaping a boutique worship experience that bridges the gap between churchgoers and seekers alike. Through storytelling, music, wellness, and natural beauty, Heaven on Earth offers a deeply personal space for rest, connection, and inspiration.
John and Emily also talk about the power of music in spiritual formation, the artists and vision behind the festival, and why gathering in community can be so transformative for both creatives and attendees.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How Emily’s unconventional spiritual journey led to founding Heaven on Earth
- Why the festival focuses on soulful connection over religious programming
- The unique role of nature, music, and storytelling in personal transformation
- How Christian and mainstream artists create a welcoming, restorative experience
- What to expect at this summer’s event in Moab, including glamping, hikes, cold plunges, and stargazing
- Why authenticity and vulnerability are essential for deeper faith conversations
Featured Festival Artists (2024):
- JOHNNYSWIM
- Amanda Cook
- Dave Barnes
- John McLaughlin
- Ashley Hess
- Eauclaire
- Madeline Rose
- The King Will Come
Key Moments:
[02:00] Emily’s spiritual foundation and discovering God's love in everyday moments
[06:30] The slow revelation of faith and growing in understanding over time
[08:45] Music’s emotional impact and favorite worship influences
[14:00] The thinkers, pastors, and voices who shaped Emily’s spiritual formation
[19:45] The origin of Heaven on Earth and its unique vision
[24:00] Creating a festival experience that refreshes the soul without being preachy
[27:00] Keeping the festival small and intimate to foster deep community
[28:00] A look at the daily schedule: morning workouts, live music, storytelling, and stargazing
[31:00] Recording a communal festival song and exploring creativity on-site
Resources & Links:
Learn more and register for the Heaven on Earth festival:
https://www.heavenonearthfestival.com
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: Killer Ideas and Unforgettable Titles
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Summary: This week on Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich kick off June with an essential topic for every songwriter: how to develop killer ideas and unforgettable titles. Great songs start with strong hooks, but how do you find them? Where do the best ideas come from? And how do you know when a title is fresh, original, and worth writing?
John and Bryant share personal stories, songwriting insights, and even a few laughs as they explore how to capture inspiration, refine your ideas, and move beyond cliché Christian titles. Plus, they dive into the importance of pre-writing, journaling, and getting real feedback on your work.
If you’ve ever stared at a blank page wondering where to start—or felt stuck using the same tired phrases—this episode will equip you with practical tools to level up your songwriting from the very first line.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why titles and hooks are the foundation of great songs
- The power of keeping a title list and collecting song seeds
- How to avoid overused Christian phrases and write with originality
- The importance of pre-writing and journaling to develop your ideas
- Why rewriting and coaching are essential to growth
- Real-world tips from Bryant’s band Eauclaire and NCS artists
Key Moments: [02:00] – Launching June’s focus: killer ideas and unforgettable titles [02:30] – How Bryant’s new single You Me the Kids (YMtK) got its hook [06:00] – The challenge of writing original Christian lyrics [07:00] – Pat Barrett’s “Happily Hidden” and why unique hooks matter [09:30] – How to collect titles & why great writers are always listening [12:50] – What to do when your hook already exists in another song [15:00] – The myth of the fully formed download: why pre-writing matters [20:30] – Capturing your best ideas in moments of clarity and stillness [25:00] – Why writing 1,000 songs won’t help—unless you learn to write well [29:00] – Coaching, feedback, and why your favorite lyric may need work [31:30] – Journaling your ideas and identifying the emotional takeaway
Resources & Links: Listen to Eauclaire’s new single “You Me the Kids”
https://lnk.to/e-YouMetheKids
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State
Hosts: John Chisum
Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown
Episode Summary:
In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fame. Clark opens up about the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, how his faith shapes his artistry, and why he believes Jesus loves the complexity found in music—yes, even a flat five.
You'll also hear about Clark’s passion for music education, the emotional weight of critiquing performers on his Idol Breakdown series, and why it's perfectly normal to not feel obsessed with your art every single day.
Key Takeaways:
Clark’s honest experience as runner-up on American Idol
Why he sees music as a competition with yourself
The story behind “Jesus Loves the Flat Five”
How faith, love, and genuine care translate in the entertainment world
The difference between worship as a genre vs. worship as a personal practice
Why it’s okay not to feel creative every day—and why you should keep going anyway
The purpose behind Idol Breakdown and how he handles criticism responsibly
Demystifying music theory through Clark’s online courses
Quotable Moments:
“Excuses are just permission slips for mediocrity.”
“God is the author of art. And when we express emotions through it, He’s in it.”
“You don’t follow your passion. You work really hard to get good, and passion follows.”
“Jesus loves complexity. He loves art. He loves the flat five.”
RESOURCES & LINKS
ClarkBeckham.com
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Writing in Your Best Genre
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue their deep dive into genre, style, and artistic identity—with practical insights on how to discover and develop your best musical lane. From personal stories to real-world examples like Anya Lee, Clark Beckham, and the NCS Collective, John and Bryant unpack how to write with intention, identify your audience, and stay creatively inspired.
Whether you're new to songwriting or looking to sharpen your skills, this conversation will help you understand your artistic DNA, clarify your creative purpose, and embrace your unique sound and calling.
- What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why genre and style matter more than ever in modern music
- How to write songs with clarity, context, and purpose
- The role of pre-writing in making your songs more impactful
- Tips for finding your “flow state” and discovering your lane
- Why writing in your natural genre can lead to greater creative freedom
- What to do when your favorite genre isn't "commercially popular"
Key Moments: [01:10] – Recapping May's focus on genre and style [03:00] – Musical influences and the evolution of artist identity [06:00] – Releasing experimental music & the freedom to try new things [09:10] – Why knowing your audience before you write is key [10:35] – Anya Lee’s fearless fusion of pop, gospel & testimony [12:00] – Micro-moments of flow: Clark Beckham's unique spin on worship [14:00] – Balancing creative authenticity and market relevance [20:00] – Finding your unique voice within broader genres [25:00] – Why pre-writing and research are essential to songwriting [29:30] – What to look for in a great lyric: hooks, form, and repetition [33:00] – Co-writing and the power of community and collaboration
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Claire Bacon (Project Manager, NCS)
Episode Title: CLAIRE BACON: Genre, Growth, and Grace
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum introduces a new member of the NCS team: Claire Bacon, NCS Project Manager and music industry pro. With experience at Bethel Music, Pure Mosaic, and a degree from Middle Tennessee State University, Claire brings a unique blend of creative and business insight to Christian songwriting and artist development.
Claire shares how she went from singing Disney songs as a child to interning at Bethel just three weeks after giving her life to Christ, and how that faith journey has impacted her approach to A&R, publishing, and artist development. She also opens up about the challenges of giving professional song feedback, and how relational trust is key in the music industry.
This episode is packed with wisdom on genre vs. style, tips for emerging artists, and how to navigate your calling with both heart and strategy.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Claire’s journey from MTSU to Bethel Music and beyond
- How a personal faith encounter shaped her path in music
- The difference between publishing administration and creative publishing
- What it really takes to give—and receive—song feedback gracefully
- How to find your artistic identity in a genre-rich music world
- Practical advice for new songwriters discovering their sound
Key Moments: [03:13] – Claire’s early love for music and storytelling [06:53] – Why she chose MTSU and how it shaped her career [09:07] – Giving her life to Christ—and getting a Bethel internship weeks later [14:32] – Stepping into real-world A&R with Pure Mosaic [17:00] – Navigating hard conversations with artists [20:02] – Genre & style: working across musical diversity [23:41] – Nikki Lou’s powerful folky transformation story [25:51] – Genre vs. style: how to define and navigate both [31:08] – Helping writers who feel “undefined” or stuck [33:36] – Advice for songwriters: study the genre you want to write in [35:31] – The exciting future of NCS and the NCS Collective
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: The Power of Knowing Styles & Genres
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive deep into one of the most important (and often confusing) parts of being a songwriter or artist: understanding your genre and style. This discussion is packed with practical insights for anyone who has ever wondered, "What kind of music do I actually make?"
Using real examples from the NCS Collective—including music from artists like Nikki Lou, Howard Gripp, Eauclaire, and Coby James—John and Bryant explore how genre and style influence songwriting, production, and artist development. Plus, they offer guidance for identifying your unique artistic voice, no matter where you are in your journey.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The difference between genre and style—and why it matters
- How artists like Nikki Lou and Eau Claire found their signature sound
- Why knowing your favorite music is a powerful clue to your own style
- How the NCS Collective is empowering real people to make real music
- Tips for choosing the right producer or direction for your songs
- The importance of letting the song guide the production
Key Moments: [03:00] – Christian music's wide range: from worship to folk to hip-hop [07:57] – The story behind launching the NCS Collective [13:00] – Producing Howard Gripp’s debut rock/CCM music [15:25] – How Nikki Lou’s grief journey birthed powerful bluegrass/folk songs [23:00] – A listen to Kobe James’ modern pop worship track Mighty God [26:40] – Bryant shares Eauclaire’s evolving sound: cinematic, folk, indie rock [34:00] – Highlighting Collective artists: Jay Davids, Bonnie Barbay, Ezra Worship, Anya Lee [35:30] – How to find your style: Let the song—and your heart—lead
Featured Music in this Episode:
- Million Tears and Valley of Shadow and Light by Nikki Lou
- Mighty God by Coby James
- Grow and Faith Is the Bird by Eauclaire
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Adrian Thompson (Head of A&R, Bethel Music)
Episode Title: Adrian Thompson: Bethel Exec on Miracles and Music
Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Adrian Thompson, the Head of A&R at Bethel Music and former VP of A&R at Integrity Music. They discuss the impact of Bethel Music on modern worship, the controversy surrounding charismatic expressions of faith, and the process of developing and signing artists at Bethel.
Adrian shares insights into how Bethel identifies new talent, the songwriting process behind their music, and the biblical foundation of their songs. He also opens up about his own spiritual journey, moving from a Presbyterian background to encountering the Holy Spirit, and how that experience continues to shape his work in music ministry today.
If you've ever wondered how worship music is shaped, how A&R works at a major worship label, or why some churches criticize charismatic worship, this episode is for you!
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How Bethel Music discerns and develops new artists
- The role of A&R in shaping worship music for the global church
- Addressing the controversies surrounding Bethel’s theology & worship style
- Why Bethel cross-references song lyrics with Scripture before release
- The importance of community, mentorship, and authenticity in worship music
- How songs go from demo to finished album at Bethel
Key Moments: [02:26] – Adrian Thompson’s journey: From Presbyterian roots to charismatic faith [05:54] – Addressing the controversy around Bethel & charismatic worship [10:15] – Miracles, gold dust, and why supernatural experiences divide the church [17:06] – How Bethel Music ensures theological soundness in worship songs [23:17] – The role of A&R in selecting and refining worship songs [27:45] – What it takes to become a Bethel Music artist [31:29] – The UK worship movement & its influence on global worship [36:12] – Advice for songwriters who feel called to write for the church
Resources & Links: Listen to Bethel Music’s latest releases
https://bethelmusic.com/
Follow Bethel Music on Instagram – @bethelmusic
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
www.NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Building Your Creative Team
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich explore one of the most important factors in a songwriter’s success—building a strong creative team. While many songwriters start out alone, no artist truly succeeds in isolation. It takes producers, mentors, collaborators, and a solid support network to bring music to life and get it heard.
John and Bryant break down the essential roles in a songwriter's journey—from crafting a great song to recording, production, marketing, and promotion. They also share real-life success stories from NCS artists who went from dreaming about music to making an impact with their songs.
If you’re a songwriter who feels stuck doing everything alone, this episode will show you how to build a team and move forward with confidence!
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why every songwriter needs a team to succeed
- How to find producers, co-writers, and collaborators
- The essential roles in the music-making process—from idea to release
- The difference between DIY production and professional studio recordings
- How marketing and social media can make or break your song’s success
- Real-life examples of NCS artists thriving with the right team
Key Moments: [03:20] – Why community is the key to success in music
[06:33] – Breaking down the songwriting and production process [10:26] – The roles of producers, engineers, and session musicians [15:39] – The power of marketing and why artists must promote themselves [18:42] – Social media tips for songwriters and independent artists [24:16] – How a strong vision helps attract the right team [30:00] – How NCS can help you connect with the right people
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guests: Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson (11:21 Worship)
Episode Title: Worship, Community, and Legacy with 11:21 Worship
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes Jared Anderson (writer of Great I Am, Rescue, Lord, I’m Amazed) and Kelly Wilkerson of 11:21 Worship to talk about the power of worship, legacy, and ministry.
Kelly shares the incredible history of World Challenge and Teen Challenge, founded by her father-in-law, David Wilkerson, and how their global ministry continues to impact lives today. She also opens up about her family’s personal struggles with addiction and how they’ve experienced God’s faithfulness through it all.
Jared Anderson, known for his work with New Life Church and Desperation Band, discusses his transition from a solo worship career to leading 11:21 Worship and how their team is writing music to serve the church and inspire generations.
The episode also highlights 11:21 Worship’s powerful new version of the classic song “Rise Again”, originally made famous by Dallas Holm over 47 years ago.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The history of Teen Challenge & World Challenge—a ministry impacting lives for over 60 years
- How Jared Anderson transitioned from solo worship to leading 11:21 Worship
- The importance of writing music for your specific ministry & audience
- Kelly’s personal testimony of family addiction and God’s healing
- The story behind the new 11:21 Worship version of “Rise Again”
- The power of multi-generational worship leadership
Key Moments: [02:49] – The story of Teen Challenge & World Challenge’s global impact [07:05] – How David Wilkerson led Nikki Cruz to Christ & started a movement [13:22] – Kelly’s personal journey with addiction in her family [19:17] – Jared’s transition from Desperation Band to 11:21Worship [29:47] – Why 11:21Worship is creating new music for a new generation [33:06] – The message behind the song “At Your Table” [36:12] – Reimagining “Rise Again”—bringing a classic song to today’s worshippers [39:52] – Encouragement for songwriters & worship leaders
Resources & Links: Listen to 11:21Worship’s new music - https://www.1121worship.com/ Follow 11:21Worship on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/1121worship/
World Challenge Ministries - https://www.worldchallenge.org/
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Creating In Community
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into one of the most essential aspects of songwriting success—creating in community. Many songwriters struggle with Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS), feeling isolated in their creative process. But thriving as a songwriter requires connection, collaboration, and honest feedback.
John and Bryant discuss the benefits of having a creative support system, how co-writing can elevate your music, and why real-world feedback is necessary for growth. Plus, they break down three practical ways to find or build your own songwriting community, whether locally or online.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why creating alone can slow down your songwriting growth
- How community helps refine your songwriting through feedback
- The importance of co-writing and finding creative partners
- How to find or start a songwriting group in your church or city
- Three practical ways to build your creative community today
Key Moments: [01:26] – The challenge of songwriting in isolation [03:53] – What is Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS)? [06:30] – Why it’s hard to be objective about your own songs [09:34] – The power of collaboration and creative partnerships [15:49] – Biblical foundation: God designed us for community [21:36] – Three ways to find or create your own songwriting group [25:45] – How NCS Community can accelerate your growth [32:23] – The biggest benefits of joining NCS Community
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
Free First Monday Songwriting Training
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
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Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Anya Lee
Episode Title: ANYA LEE: A True Resurrection Story
Episode Summary: In this powerful episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter Anya Lee, an NCS coaching graduate who has transformed her calling into a thriving music career. Anya shares her incredible near-death experience on the Appalachian Trail, the divine wake-up call she received, and how it pushed her to fully pursue music ministry.
A pastor’s kid who always loved music, Anya struggled with putting herself out there as an artist. But after her miraculous survival, she could no longer ignore the burning desire God placed in her heart. She took action, joined NCS coaching, and is now releasing impactful Christian music, including her latest single, Simple.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How a near-death experience changed Anya’s life and mission
- The journey from hobbyist songwriter to professional artist
- The power of saying yes to your calling—even when it’s scary
- How NCS coaching & artist development helped launch her career
- Behind the scenes of her new music & upcoming projects
Key Moments: [02:24] – Meet Anya Lee: A journey from Michigan to Nashville
[03:42] – Her background in music & early struggles
[05:33] – Hiking the Appalachian Trail—and the moment she died [07:10] – A miraculous rescue and a divine calling confirmed [14:50] – Waking up with an undeniable hunger to create music [19:26] – How she found NCS coaching & artist development
[25:45] – Overcoming fear & investing in herself [29:34] – The songwriting process & working with Nashville producers [32:48] – Learning to say yes to every opportunity
[33:43] – Her new single Simple & what’s next for Anya Lee
Resources & Links: Listen to Anya Lee’s music!
https://open.spotify.com/artist/3usfgEYK074SW87NR2uKjo
Follow Anya Lee on Instagram – @itsmeanyalee
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Guest: Jason Lovins (Jason Lovins Band)
Episode Title: JASON LOVINS: 20 Years of Music on a Mission
Episode Summary: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Jason Lovins, the leader of the Jason Lovins Band, to discuss his incredible journey in Christian music, his powerful personal story, and his 20-year ministry.
Jason shares how growing up in a small-town church in West Virginia led to an unexpected encounter with Michael W. Smith, which opened his eyes to contemporary Christian music. He also reflects on the pivotal moment he realized he was called to lead worship. But perhaps the most impactful part of Jason’s story is how he came into the world—his mother, just 15 years old, was raped and became pregnant. Rather than choosing abortion, she and Jason’s grandmother trusted God and chose life. Today, Jason’s testimony is bringing hope and healing to countless people.
If you’ve ever struggled with understanding your calling or wondered how God can use your story for His glory, this episode will encourage and inspire you.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How one “yes” at a time led Jason to a 20-year music career
- The moment Jason discovered contemporary Christian music
- How he knew he was called to lead worship
- The impact of his band’s new album, Pilgrim Road
- Jason’s powerful personal story and how it’s transforming lives
- How God uses our stories and testimonies to change hearts
Key Moments: [02:27] – Discovering CCM & Michael W. Smith’s influence [06:01] – How Jason’s band started in college and grew [10:22] – The moment he realized he was called to lead worship [17:43] – How his personal story became a ministry [22:00] – His mother’s decision to say yes to life [24:30] – How sharing his story is impacting others [30:15] – How pregnancy care centers are using his testimony [31:28] – The future of Jason Lovins Band & what’s next
Connect with Jason Lovins Band Listen to Jason Lovins Band’s new album Pilgrim Road
https://www.jasonlovins.com/
Follow Jason Lovins Band – @JasonLovinsBand
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Develop Your Mission as a Songwriter
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich continue the conversation on finding and developing your mission as a Christian songwriter and artist. Many songwriters feel called to share their music, but struggle with clarity on who they’re writing for and how to effectively reach their audience.
John and Bryant break down the importance of defining your mission, building a support network, and investing in your craft to take your songwriting and artistry to the next level. They also discuss the various NCS programs available to help songwriters grow—from the One Song Challenge to full-scale Artist Development.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How to clarify your mission as a songwriter and artist
- The importance of writing with intentionality
- Why developing your audience and support network is key
- How to avoid costly production mistakes by refining your songs first
- The step-by-step process of going from songwriter to artist
- How NCS coaching can help you fast-track your growth
Key Moments: [02:49] – Finding your mission: Why clarity matters [05:53] – Defining your audience and writing with purpose [10:27] – What we can learn from artists like Lauren Daigle & Newsboys [15:40] – The value of community and mentorship in songwriting [19:49] – NCS Community: 52 weeks of coaching and collaboration [21:36] – Deep-dive into the Pro Song Mastery Group Coaching program [26:10] – Why great songwriting matters more than expensive production [31:28] – Real-life transformation: How coaching helps songwriters discover their calling [38:17] – Investing in your artistry: How to launch your career the right way
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Special Guests: Out of Eden (Lisa, Danielle, and Andrea)
Episode Title: Out of Eden - Iconic 90’s Trio Returns
Episode Summary:
In this very special episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes the legendary Out of Eden, the pioneering R&B/gospel trio that helped shape Christian contemporary music in the ‘90s. Sisters Lisa, Danielle, and Andrea Kimmey are back 30 years after their debut, celebrating their journey with a brand-new version of Bill Withers’ classic “Lovely Day” and a fresh EP that reimagines their most beloved songs.
Join us as they share their story, what they’ve been up to since their last album, and why now was the perfect time for their musical comeback. Plus, they discuss songwriting, faith, motherhood, and the challenges of today’s music industry.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How TobyMac and Goatee Records launched Out of Eden’s career
- Why the group stepped away from music in the mid-2000s
- The inspiration behind their new version of “Lovely Day”
- A sneak peek into their upcoming EP and original music
- Reflections on faith, family, and rediscovering their musical calling
- How social media has changed the music industry and artist promotion
- Advice for aspiring artists and songwriters on staying creative and faithful
Key Moments: [01:14] – Out of Eden’s legacy and their 30-year reunion [03:54] – Life after music: careers, family, and new callings [17:28] – The story behind their first record deal with Goatee Records [22:44] – The moment they knew it was time for a comeback [23:39] – Why they chose to remake “Lovely Day” [31:25] – A deep dive into their new EP and songwriting process [36:08] – Navigating the challenges of social media as artists [42:45] – Will Out of Eden go back on tour? [43:36] – Encouragement for aspiring artists and songwriters
Check out OUT OF EDEN:
Listen to Out of Eden’s new single “Lovely Day”
https://lnk.to/OOE
Follow Out of Eden on Instagram & Facebook – @OutofEdenOfficial
Get Involved with NCS:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Finding Your Mission as a Christian Artist
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into the heart of finding your mission as a Christian artist and songwriter. Whether you’re a singer, songwriter, producer, or worship leader, understanding your calling and artistic mission is essential to creating impactful, God-inspired music.
John and Bryant share their own journeys in music, from early inspirations to developing their artistry over the years. They also provide practical steps to help you identify your unique creative calling and how to bring your musical gifts into alignment with God’s purpose for your life.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- How your natural musical inclinations point to your calling
- The role of desire and passion in discovering your mission
- Why life experiences shape the message of your music
- The importance of investing in your talent and development
- How to overcome common struggles in pursuing your calling
Key Moments: [02:55] – John & Bryant’s early musical influences and upbringing [07:01] – The formative moments that shaped their calling [14:02] – The importance of natural talent and artistic leanings [19:04] – Developing your musical gifts through training & experience [26:07] – The power of desire—understanding God’s call through passion [32:56] – How life experiences shape and refine your mission [38:41] – The value of patience and long-term artistic growth [41:46] – What’s coming next on Song Revolution
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: How Real Studio Production Works
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich take you behind the scenes of music production, showing exactly how a song evolves from a rough demo to a fully produced master recording. Whether you’re recording at home or working with a professional studio, you’ll learn the step-by-step process of layering instruments, arranging tracks, and creating a polished final mix. Using the song To You Forever by Ezra Worship, they break down the elements of production—from initial voice memo recordings to full-band, radio-ready masters.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between a work tape, home demo, and master recording How instruments are layered in modern worship production The role of digital audio workstations (DAWs) like Logic Pro and GarageBand The importance of vocal mixing, harmonies, and effects Why having a clear vision for your song before production is crucial Tips for songwriters looking to start home recording
Key Moments: [02:19] – Recap of February’s focus on music production [04:14] – What happens after you record a work demo? [06:48] – Listening to the raw work tape of To You Forever [09:09] – Why having a clear vision for your song is critical [12:58] – Recording drums: Microphone setup and tracking process [17:06] – Layering guitars, bass, and synths for a full-band sound [23:31] – Mixing and enhancing vocals for a polished sound [30:59] – Should you produce music yourself or hire a pro? [33:17] – The importance of finding your creative community
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: Writing Production Ready Songs
Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich dive into the fundamentals of what makes a song truly production-ready. If you’re planning to invest in recording your music, you’ll want to ensure your song is strong enough to stand on its own before adding layers of production. Learn how publishing, songwriting craft, and modern digital distribution have evolved and why quality control in songwriting matters more than ever in today’s music landscape.
Key Takeaways: The key elements that make a song ready for production Why a great song should stand on its own, even without production The difference between an inspired song and a well-crafted song How digital streaming has changed the music industry and what that means for songwriters Lessons from publishing and A&R in the pre-digital era The importance of quality control in modern music production
Key Moments: [02:32] – What makes a song production-ready? [04:51] – When does production enhance vs. expose flaws in a song? [07:03] – The risks of spending money on production before your song is ready [14:25] – Then vs. now: How publishing and gatekeepers shaped quality in music [20:58] – The shift from quality-controlled music to the digital Wild West [30:49] – Why songwriters must be open to feedback for growth [35:44] – Writing music with a mission and ministry focus [38:25] – How to grow your songwriting craft with NCS resources
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Host: John Chisum
Special Guest: Coby James
Episode Title: COBY JAMES: Home Studio Production Tips
Episode Summary: Welcome to another exciting episode of Song Revolution! This week, we're diving into the world of home music production with artist, songwriter, and producer Coby James. Coby shares his journey from experimenting with GarageBand at age 14 to becoming an independent artist and producer. He offers valuable insights on setting up a home studio, layering sounds, and making professional-quality music from your bedroom.
Key Takeaways:
- The essential gear needed for a home recording studio
- How to structure and arrange a song for production
- The pros and cons of home recording vs. professional studios
- How production enhances or exposes flaws in a song
- Why song quality matters more than fancy equipment
- Insights from Coby’s transition from signed artist to independent producer
Key Moments: [00:00] – Welcome to Season 3 of Song Revolution [04:10] – Coby’s early journey in music and production [09:19] – Leaving Centricity and stepping into independence [13:21] – Essential home studio gear setup [21:26] – The process of building a song from scratch [25:28] – Understanding the “grid” and song structure [30:43] – The importance of great songwriting before production
Connect with Coby James:
https://www.cobyjames.com/
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
NCS Collective:
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3
Hosts: John Chisum & Bryant Urich
Episode Title: From Your Work Demo to the World
Episode Summary: Welcome to Season 3 of Song Revolution! This month, we're diving into music production—what it takes to transform your voice memo ideas into professional master recordings ready for the world. Join hosts John Chisum and Bryant Urich as they break down the process from songwriting and demo production to full-scale music releases.
Key Takeaways:
- The modern songwriting process—how to refine your idea before production
- Understanding the difference between work tapes, demos, and masters
- When to invest in a full production vs. keeping it simple
- How producers help shape a song’s final sound
- Why marketing & distribution are essential to reaching listeners
Get Involved:
NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year!
https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025
NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/
Featured NCS Artists: J Davids, Bonnie Barbet, and Anya – listen to their latest releases!
https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Connect With Us:
Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 4
Episode Title: Galen Crew: To China with Love
Host:
- John Chisum
Special Guest:
- Galen Crew, Singer-Songwriter and Producer
Episode Highlights:
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Meet Galen Crew:
- Nashville-raised artist and songwriter with an inspiring global reach.
- Viral success in China, with over a billion streams across his catalog.
- Collaboration with legendary British songwriter Roger Cook, known for “I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.”
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The Road to Music City:
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Growing up in Franklin, Tennessee, surrounded by the Christian music scene.
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Early songwriting inspired by personal experiences, including his parents' divorce.
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Crafting a Unique Musical Identity:
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Fusing fantasy, fairy tale, and mythological themes into his music.
- Inspirations from Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Hermann Hesse.
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The journey from a local rock band to a solo artist with global appeal.
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Going Viral in China:
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The unexpected success of “Sleepy Head” on Chinese music platforms like NetEase and Tencent.
- Navigating international music markets and learning to connect with a diverse audience.
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Touring China, performing for dedicated fans, and bridging cultural gaps with music and language.
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Collaborations and Mentorship:
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The serendipitous connection with Roger Cook through Galen’s grandfather.
- Writing and producing songs like “Sleepy Head” with Roger Cook.
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Learning the art of storytelling in songwriting.
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Lessons for Songwriters:
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Embracing creativity and authenticity in your music.
- Encouragement to step out of your comfort zone and share your unique voice.
- Exploring global opportunities and being open to unexpected paths.
Key Takeaways:
- Music transcends borders, with the potential to connect with audiences worldwide.
- Authenticity in your art can carve new lanes beyond traditional industry expectations.
- Leveraging the digital age to expand your reach is more accessible than ever.
Featured Tracks:
- Sleepy Head – A viral hit in China with a whimsical, fairy-tale theme.
- Explore Galen Crew’s music on Spotify, NetEase, and other platforms.
Get Involved:
- Check out Galen Crew’s music and follow his inspiring journey.
- Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and inspiration to revolutionize your songwriting.
- Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide to take your craft to the next level.
Next Week’s Episode:
- Celebrating the power of community and collaboration in songwriting with a special guest from the Nashville scene.
Connect With Us:
- Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
- Social Media: Facebook | Instagram
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!
Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 3
Episode Title: John Chisum: Discovering Your Hidden Songwriting Genius
Host:
- John Chisum
Episode Highlights:
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Celebrating a Decade of Songwriting Excellence:
- Reflecting on 10 years of Nashville Christian Songwriters (NCS) and 42 years in Christian music for John Chisum.
- Announcement of the 30th-anniversary edition of "Firm Foundation," set for release this month.
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2025 Songwriting Challenge:
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A free year-long program to help Christian songwriters develop one new skill per month.
- Includes monthly free training sessions, resources, and a downloadable guide.
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Encouragement to set a "giant intention" for songwriting growth this year.
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Discovering Your Songwriting Zone of Genius:
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Insights inspired by Gay Hendricks' book The Big Leap.
- Identifying whether you're a producer, lyricist, technician, or big idea person.
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Strategies for maximizing strengths and collaborating to address weaknesses.
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Community and Coaching Opportunities:
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Overview of NCS programs, including one-on-one coaching, group coaching, and artist development programs.
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Introduction to the NCS Collective, a record label supporting emerging Christian songwriters.
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Music Showcase:
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Sneak peeks of music produced through the NCS Collective, including "Mighty God" featuring Kobe James and "You Are The One" by Bonnie Barbet.
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Examples of world-class music from songwriters empowered by NCS coaching programs.
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Practical Songwriting Advice:
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Avoiding common mistakes like premature production of underdeveloped songs.
- Understanding the importance of proper song form and market readiness.
- Encouragement to invest in personal growth as a songwriter.
Key Takeaways:
- Discovering and focusing on your songwriting strengths will lead to more impactful music.
- Developing skills and collaborating within a supportive community can elevate your craft.
- Time will pass regardless; use it to grow and fulfill your God-given calling as a songwriter.
Get Involved:
- Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide from the show notes.
- Join the NCS Community for weekly coaching and resources to revolutionize your songwriting journey.
- Explore the NCS Collective and listen to inspiring music from Christian songwriters.
Next Week's Episode:
- Special guest: Galen Crew, a songwriter with over a billion streams in China, shares his creative journey.
Connect With Us:
- Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
- Social Media: Facebook | Instagram
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters and creatives.
Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 2
Episode Title: Leanna Crawford: God and Goat Yoga
Hosts:
- John Chisum
Special Guest:
- Leanna Crawford, Christian music artist and songwriter
Episode Highlights:
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Meet Leanna Crawford:
- Signed to Provident Music, Leanna's latest album, Still Waters, is inspired by faith, family, and life's experiences.
- She's toured with artists like 10th Avenue North, Michael W. Smith, and Matthew West and is making an impact not just through music but also through her partnership with Charity Water.
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The Heart Behind Still Waters:
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Exploring themes of faith, vulnerability, and personal growth.
- Stories behind key songs like "Simple" and "Still Waters."
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The balance between the spiritual and psychological aspects of life and songwriting.
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Leanna's Journey:
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Growing up on a horse farm in the Northwest, with early songwriting roots inspired by everyday experiences.
- How moving to Nashville shaped her artistry and opened doors in the music industry.
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Funny anecdotes like goat yoga and near misses with ATVs, showcasing her down-to-earth personality.
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Faith and Worship:
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Leanna reflects on her church background and how it influenced her approach to music and ministry.
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A deep dive into her creative process and how she keeps performances fresh for audiences across different cities.
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Spotlight on the Song "Simple":
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Lyrics that resonate deeply about God's grace and simplicity in faith.
- Insights into the songwriting process with co-writers Jason Houser and Clint Lagerberg.
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The personal and spiritual layers that inspired this heartfelt track.
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Live Performance:
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Leanna performs "Simple," offering an intimate look into the emotion and meaning behind the song.
Key Takeaways:
- Vulnerability in songwriting allows for deeper connections with listeners.
- Acknowledge the intersection of spiritual and mental health in the journey of faith.
- Great songs come from authentic stories and experiences.
Get Involved:
- Stream Still Waters by Leanna Crawford on your favorite platform.
- Learn more about her ministry and music on LeannaCrawford.com.
Next Week's Episode:
- Discover your "Songwriting Zone of Genius" with John and Bryant.
Connect With Us:
- Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
- Social Media: Facebook | Instagram
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with someone passionate about music and faith!
Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3 Premiere
Episode Title: John Chisum: “Getting Unstuck, Get a Plan, and Get Heard”
Hosts:
- John Chisum
- Bryant Urich
Episode Highlights:
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Welcome to Season 3!
- A new year and a new season of Song Revolution.
- Overview of exciting plans for 2025, including interviews, teachings, and a 12-month songwriting challenge.
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Special Guests and Upcoming Highlights:
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Leanna Crawford, Galen Crew, and a revival episode featuring the group Out of Eden.
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Insights from songwriters with incredible journeys.
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The 12-Month Songwriting Challenge:
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A skill-focused journey: Learn one new songwriting skill each month.
- Free resources, including live training sessions, email guides, and practical insights.
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Designed for all songwriters—whether you're just starting or seasoned in your craft.
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Practical Tips for Songwriters:
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Develop intentionality and set realistic goals for your songwriting journey.
- Surround yourself with a supportive songwriting community.
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Strategies to share your songs strategically and seek meaningful feedback.
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The Importance of Craft:
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Balancing the spiritual inspiration of songwriting with practical skill-building.
- The value of writing compelling hooks, learning rhyme schemes, and receiving constructive feedback.
Key Takeaways:
- Success in songwriting requires patience, dedication, and a willingness to learn.
- Focus on creating songs that stand out, not just production value. A great song can shine even with a simple arrangement.
- "Make noise where you are, and people will find you." – Practical advice for indie artists from industry leaders.
Get Involved:
- Join the 2025 Songwriting Challenge: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
- Join the NCS Community: A worldwide network of Christian songwriters to inspire and grow your craft.
Next Week's Episode:
- Special Guest: Leanna Crawford shares her insights, music, and a unique perspective on faith and creativity.
Connect With Us:
- Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com
- Social Media: Facebook | Instagram
Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with a fellow songwriter!
Hey everybody! Welcome back to Song Revolution. It's an absolute joy to be here with you once again, bringing you fresh inspiration and encouragement to help you live a better life.
Today, we have a captivating duo in our midst – Seth and Nirva Ready. Nirva, once a dancer and singer for Toby Mac, brings a wealth of behind-the-scenes stories, while Seth's journey from his Mississippi roots led him to share the stage with gospel legends such as Kirk Franklin and Donnie McClurkin.
Stay tuned as we dive into these captivating stories, offering a glimpse into the life of artists who are not just creating music but are also shaping the spiritual landscape through their work. Thank you for joining us today, and let's dive into the heart of our conversation.
Stay connected with us on Song Revolution – where music meets faith and creativity sparks change.
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Welcome to a brand-new episode of the Song Revolution podcast with John Chisum, brought to you by the NRT network. This episode features George and Carol Godwin, co-directors of the Ezra Worship Initiative, hailing from Decatur, Alabama. The conversation revolves around the unique and transformative experiences offered by the Ezra Worship Initiative – an internship program designed for college-age, bi vocational worship leaders. The program not only focuses on the musical aspects of worship but also incorporates theology, leadership, audio, technology, and musicianship, providing a holistic approach to spiritual and professional growth.
Listeners will get an insider’s view of the program’s structure, from the initial week of warm welcomes to the intensive 10-week schedule filled with practical learning, leadership training, and hands-on worship service experiences. The highlight of the program is the life-changing mission trip to the Dominican Republic, where interns get to experience and contribute to multicultural worship settings.
This episode is not just about imparting musical skills; it’s a deep dive into nurturing a love for the church, understanding its diverse needs, and building long-lasting relationships within the Christian community. Whether you’re an aspiring Christian artist, a worship leader, or simply someone passionate about music and ministry, this episode of Song Revolution is a treasure trove of insights and inspiration. Tune in to discover how the Ezra Worship Initiative is shaping the future of worship and how you or someone you know can be a part of this incredible journey.
Connect with the Ezra Worship Initiative at ezraworship.com.
Check out their new song out this week - CONFIDENCE
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
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“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
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- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
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Welcome back to Song Revolution. Happy new year!
Welcome to a new episode of the Song Revolution podcast with John Chisum, presented by the NRT network. In this 2024 episode, John, alongside his right-hand man Bryant Ulrich, kickstarts the New Year with a focus on songwriting and community building in the Christian music world. Celebrating their ninth year as Nashville Christian Songwriters, they share their journey, the growth of their podcast, and the evolution of their programs.
This episode delves into the past seven years of Bryant's journey in Nashville, from his arrival with aspirations in music production to his key role in starting and growing the podcast. They reminisce about how a chance meeting at a coffee shop led to a partnership that has significantly impacted the Christian songwriting community. As they reflect on the successes and the growth of their listenership across the globe, they also highlight the importance of continuous learning, community engagement, and the evolution of the music industry.
John and Bryant discuss various offerings from Nashville Christian Songwriters, including the Pro Song Mastery program and one-on-one coaching, emphasizing the importance of not just talent but also calling and dedication in songwriting. They touch upon the new artist development track and the launching of the NCS Collective, a Boutique record label. This episode is a blend of reflection, inspiration, and forward-looking strategies for aspiring songwriters and artists, providing a roadmap for success in the ever-evolving world of Christian music. Tune in to be part of this exciting journey into 2024, where songwriting meets purpose and community.
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- Facebook — www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram — www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter — twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Join us in this special Christmas edition of the Song Revolution podcast with John Chisum, where we delve into the art and soul of Christian songwriting.
In this episode, John shares his insights and personal journey in the world of music, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning and growth in songwriting. He discusses the transformative power of songs in living a better life and connecting more deeply with God's love, regardless of whether you're a songwriter or not.
Special highlights include a retrospective of the year's best episodes, insightful interviews, and the impactful story behind John's first Christmas single, “O Night Divine” co-written with NCS Pro Song Mastery student LeeAnn Shade.
This episode is a treasure trove of inspiration for aspiring songwriters and artists, offering practical advice, spiritual encouragement, and a reminder of the endless possibilities in Christian music. Tune in to get inspired and learn how to harness your talents to make a difference in the world through songwriting.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
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“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Welcome back to Song Revolution. Today's episode is a special treat. Join us for an inspiring conversation with Dara Maclean, a visionary artist at the intersection of music and ministry. This episode takes you behind the scenes of Dara's latest album, "River.” It delves into her artistic journey, exploring the depths of her music that aims to ignite internal revival and pursuit of wholeness. From discussing the nuances of songs like “Love Over Religion” to sharing her experiences with Gateway Worship, Dara's insights offer a refreshing perspective on spirituality and creativity.
Don't miss this engaging discussion that transcends traditional boundaries of artistry and faith. Dara shares her personal experiences and philosophies, and delves into the critical aspects of artist development and the importance of authenticity in creation. Her passion for nurturing a legacy mindset in the industry and fostering collective creativity is uplifting and thought-provoking. Tune in to this episode for an enriching journey through music, spirituality, and the power of authentic artistic expression.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
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“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH DARA MACLEAN
- Website - daramacleanmusic.com/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/daramaclean/
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/daramaclean/
- YouTube - www.youtube.com/user/daramaclean
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Greetings, wonderful folks! Welcome back to Song Revolution. Today's episode is a special treat as we're joined by the incredible Phil Joel and his equally amazing wife, Heather Joel. Now, you probably know Phil as the enduring force behind the Christian rock band, Newsboys. But here's the scoop—his talents extend far beyond music.
We've got something truly unique for you in this episode, recorded live on the grounds of Joel's latest venture. Enter The Green Room, a haven of eco-friendliness and sustainable living nestled right in the heart of downtown Franklin, Tennessee.
While Phil is no stranger to rocking the stage, he's also rocking the world of home essentials. The Green Room is not your average department store; it's a testament to the couple's commitment to environmental consciousness. Phil, a fervent advocate, urges believers and all Earth-dwellers alike to cherish, protect, and preserve the divine gift of creation.
Drawing inspiration from biblical teachings, the Joels see themselves as stewards of God's creation, and that ethos is beautifully reflected in the way they live and the Green Room they've birthed.
Now, picture this: A one-stop-shop for all things home all about sustainability and comfort. From cozy linens to ambient candles, energy-efficient home appliances to soulful music records, and even delicious snacks and beverages—all with a story and an earth-friendly twist. It's a breath of fresh air for those who believe in making a positive impact with their choices.
And hey, if you happen to find yourself in the greater Nashville area, make sure to swing by the Green Room. Trust me; it's an experience you won't want to miss.
But wait, there's more! Phil spills the beans on his latest musical endeavor—a captivating album titled "A New Heaven and A New Earth," featuring his soul-stirring song, "Arms Around The World." Get ready to dive into the sounds of inspiration.
So, kick back, relax, and immerse yourself in this fantastic episode. The Song Revolution continues, and the melody of positive change is in the air. Enjoy!
Listen to Phil Joel’s previous episode on Song Revolution, Season 1.
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CONNECT WITH PHIL JOEL
- Website - https://www.philjoel.com/
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@philjoelofficial8353
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/philjoelofficial/?hl=en
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/philjoelofficial/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Hey everybody! Welcome back to Song Revolution. In this episode, we dive into the inspiring journey of Christian songwriter and Gateway Worship leader, Michael Bethany, a Stellar Award-nominated songwriter and two-time BMI Christian Song Award recipient. Hailing from Gateway Music at Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas, Michael wears multiple hats as a singer, songwriter, producer, and recording artist.
During his remarkable career, Michael has collaborated with musical greats such as Fred Hammond, Mitch Wong, Leeland Mooring, Kirk Franklin, Marvin Sapp, Tamela Mann, and more. His passion goes beyond the stage, as he finds joy in leading worship, teaching, and mentoring the next generation. Michael is particularly dedicated to creating multicultural worship experiences that ignite a profound intimacy with God.
Michael gets real in this conversation about his own recovery journey and his constant need for prayer and accountability despite being a popular worship leader on an international worship ministry platform.
Join us as we explore the transformative power of worship and the heart behind Michael Bethany's Song Revolution.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
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“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH MICHAEL BETHANY
- Website - www.michaelbethany.com/
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCfSUaeW7FDwcopv7pJhwIQ
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/michaelbethanyofficial/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Hey everybody! Join your host John Chisum as we uncover the captivating stories behind the music. In this special episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, we sit down with the talented artist, Petrina Pacheco.
Petrina's melodies and lyrics have touched the hearts of many, and in this conversation, she opens up about the inspirations that drive her creative process. From life's highs to its challenges, we delve deep into the emotional and artistic landscape that defines her music.
Get ready to be inspired as we explore the artistry, passion, and resilience that have propelled Petrina Pacheco to where she is today. Thank you for joining us today, and let's dive into the heart of our conversation.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
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“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH PETRINA PACHECO
- Website - petrinapacheco.com/
- YouTube - www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ2ZbNB90BQ0AVAM3T-cM_w
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/petrinapacheco
- Spotify - open.spotify.com/artist/1DDbj9iFukUzhugEWpjfro?
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Welcome to the Song Revolution Podcast! Today, we invite you to embark on an extraordinary musical journey as we pay tribute to our host and iconic artist, John Chisum, and his remarkable 40-year career in music.
In this special episode, we'll delve deep into the life and legacy of John Chisum, a true music visionary whose passion for creating soul-stirring melodies and compelling lyrics has captivated audiences worldwide.
Join us as we uncover the pivotal moments that shaped John Chisum's artistic journey, the inspiration behind his timeless songs, and the collaborations that have left an indelible mark on the music landscape. We'll hear from fellow musicians, producers, and industry insiders who have had the privilege of working with this legendary artist, providing exclusive insights into his creative process and the profound impact he has had on their own musical paths.
Subscribe now to stay up-to-date with our latest episodes, and join us as we explore the transformative power of music and the artists who dare to revolutionize the world, one song at a time.
Let the Song Revolution begin!
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthrough-call
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Welcome back to Song Revolution, where we explore the world of music and connect with extraordinary artists. I'm thrilled to have had the opportunity to sit down with Ryan Stevenson, the talented musician behind the chart-topping hit "Eye of the Storm." In our conversation, we went beyond his lightning-strike start in Christian music and delved into the present moments that shape his soulful journey. We discussed his latest record, "Able," and the heartfelt inspiration behind it, including how Ryan experiences the intimate presence of God. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to his music, this episode offers a deep and meaningful peek into Ryan’s life and music. Stay tuned for an authentic conversation that will resonate with your heart and soul.
Don't forget to show your support by liking, sharing, and reviewing our show. And if you're an aspiring songwriter, check out NCS Pro Song Mastery, an eight-week coaching and mentoring experience designed to elevate your skills. Join me and my new best friend, Ryan Stevenson, as we embark on an inspiring musical journey. Let's dive in!
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthrough-call
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast!
ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
📌 CALLED TO WRITE FOR THE KINGDOM Workshop - June 10, 2023 https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/kingdom Welcome to the Song Revolution podcast! In today's episode, we dive into what it takes to grow in your calling as a worship songwriter. Stepping deeper into your calling as a Christian songwriter requires prayer, self-assessment, and action. By seeking God's guidance, honing your skills, and actively pursuing your passion, you can embark on a fulfilling journey of creating music that touches lives and brings glory to God. Here are three key steps to help you dive into your calling as a Christian songwriter:
- Seek God's guidance: Take time to pray and ask God about your specific mission as a songwriter. Discover who He has called you to reach and the message He wants you to convey through your songs. Understand your target audience, their musical preferences, and where they consume music, in order to create songs that resonate with them.
- Assess your talent and musicality: Evaluate your strengths and weaknesses in writing lyrics, melodies, or playing musical instruments. Identify areas where you need improvement and consider investing in training and education to enhance your songwriting skills. Remember that passion and desire are essential, and with dedication and commitment, you can develop your craft.
- Take action: Don't wait for inspiration to strike; actively engage in the process of songwriting. Start by writing new songs, recording demos, or seeking opportunities to perform or collaborate with other musicians. Trust that as you take steps forward, God will guide and direct your path, opening doors and revealing new opportunities along the way. Embrace the journey and be proactive in pursuing your calling as a Christian songwriter.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthrough-call
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Hello and welcome to Song Revolution, the podcast where we explore the world of songwriting and more. I'm John, your host, and I'm thrilled to have you here with me today. Whether you're a seasoned songwriter or just someone who loves music, my aim is to bring you not only inspiration but also tools to help you live a better life.
In this episode, I want to share with you some principles from my recent one-hour training on Overcoming Songwriting Limitations. Even if you missed the training, don't worry, because I believe that what I have to share today will be valuable and encouraging to you.
At Song Revolution, we're not just about songs, we're about helping you reach your full potential in all areas of life. That's why we offer our NCS Pro Song Mastery Program, an eight-week online coaching and mentoring program for songwriters.
So, get ready to be inspired, encouraged, and equipped. Let's dive into today's episode of Song Revolution.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthrough-call
“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Welcome back to Song Revolution the podcast that brings you challenging, helpful, and meaningful resources to help you get the most out of life. I'm John Chisum, your host, and I'm thrilled to introduce you to my dear friend, David Hampton.
David is a certified professional addiction recovery coach, author of two books, and co-host of the Positive Sobriety Podcast. In this episode, David shares his personal journey of overcoming addiction and the tragic loss of his wife to MS.
We talk about how he turned his life around and now lives to share hope and recovery with others. David gets real about addiction and his story will inspire and encourage you to take steps towards your own positive sobriety. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this powerful conversation with David Hampton.
NCS PRO SONG MASTERY FREE DISCOVERY CALL:
https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthrough-call
“OVERCOMING SONGWRITING LIMITATIONS” TRAINING:
https://soundcloud.com/ncssongs/overcoming-songwriting-limitations-audio-only-31123?si=4cab399c7bf6435d99aa87e664de68d3&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
CONNECT WITH DAVID HAMPTON
- Website - https://www.davidhamptoncprc.com/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast!
ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Davy Flowers, a talented songwriter, worship leader, and recording artist. As a resident artist with Shane and Shane's worship initiative, Davy shares how she is raising up a new generation of worship songwriters and leaders. In this episode, Davy opens up about her own church hurts and how she has overcome them to serve in the church globally with her songwriting, worship leading, and devotional writing.
Through her music and ministry, Davy offers a message of hope, worship, and unity as we learn to lay down our differences and embrace the real Jesus. We dive deep into her personal journey and the broader vision of what God is up to in the world.
This insightful and fun interview is sure to encourage and inspire as we learn to follow Jesus with an open heart, open mind, and open hands. Tune in to hear from this gifted artist and my new best friend, Davy Flowers.
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Welcome to another episode of Song Revolution. I'm thrilled to be here with you today to bring you another inspiring conversation with some of the most talented musicians and songwriters in the industry. Our mission here is to help you show up in the world as your most creative and productive self, and today's episode is no different.
I had the privilege of sitting down recently with Todd Smith, Amy Perry, and Allen Hall, the members of Christian music's beloved group, Selah. In this special episode, we discuss their 25 years of making great music, the release of their two new albums, and their recent experience of processing grief over the loss of a close friend.
Since their debut album, Selah has become one of the most beloved groups in Christian music with over 4 million records sold and more than 750 million streams. Their timeless hymns and original songs have been woven into the fabric of our worship experience over the last two decades.
In this episode, we delve deep into the music industry and the real lives of these talented individuals. We talk about their recent album releases, Greatest Hymns Volume 3 and At This Table, their performances at iconic venues such as Carnegie Hall and the Ryman Auditorium, and their personal experiences of grief and loss.
So sit back, relax, and join me in this special conversation with Todd, Amy, and Allen of Selah. If you enjoy this podcast, please like and share it with your friends and family. Together, let's spread the love of Jesus through the power of music.
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Hey, folks! I've got an amazing guest on the show - the one and only Justin Warren!
He's a talented artist and worship leader from North Carolina who's been opening for some of the biggest names in the industry, like Rhett Walker, JJ Weeks, and Mercy Me - just to name a few! With over a million streams on his music, he's definitely making some waves in the scene, and I can't wait to see what he does next.
In our chat, Justin talks about how he almost walked away from everything in his young married life, but with God's help, he was able to restore his marriage and his heart for God. And let me tell you, this guy is as real as it gets - he's the son of a preacher man, a husband of 15 years, and a proud dad of two sons (with a third on the way!). Juggling a busy ministry, travel, and family life, Justin's got a lot on his plate, but he's handling it like a champ.
So grab your headphones and get ready for a great conversation with Justin Warren - radiant recording artist, million-song streamer, worship leader, songwriter, and my new best friend. And if you enjoy our chat, be sure to like and share this episode with all your musician and worship-leading friends (and anyone else who loves great podcasts). Let's glorify God in the highest ways possible and show up in the world as our best selves!
Also - don’t miss Justin singing All Things Well live on the podcast.
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How to Get People to LOVE Your Songs
Get THREE powerful insights to make your songs stand out above the crowd and engage your audience through responsibility, creativity, and action with veteran Christian songwriter and recording artist, John Chisum.
This episode is a must for aspiring songwriters wanting to tap into deeper resources and take action to fulfill their highest calling.
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Now you can finally lose the fear of not being good enough as a Christian songwriter and level up your skills with these powerful insights from veteran Christian songwriter and President of Nashville Christian Songwriters, John Chisum!
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond.
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John Chisum is a veteran Christian songwriter with over 400 of his compositions recorded and in print. With a career spanning four decades, John’s delightful calling is to download time-proven insights on songwriting that can set you up for the greatest songwriting years of your life.
In this solo episode, John helps you to abandon the urban myth that you are “waiting on God” for the inspiration to write great songs. He shares boldly that what most Christian songwriters are waiting on will never come and how to end the needless passivity of expecting downloads and inspirational lightning strikes as a creator.
Key insights shared in this episode are:
- Why it’s dangerous to have a philosophy of waiting for inspiration to strike
- Why we shouldn’t beg for God’s presence to “show up”
- The real New Testament perspective on the presence of God by His Spirit
- What it means to be “in-spirited” as Christian songwriters
- The need to cultivate a deep awareness of the presence of God every day
- The Apostle Paul’s prayer for “true enlightenment”
- How to be an inspiring person and live an inspired life
- Taking inspired action in life and songwriting
- Why gaining significant songwriting skills is as important as inspiration and why not having them is the real reason you’re not writing at a higher level
This episode is a must-listen for any aspiring writer who wants to make every day count. John doesn’t believe in tips, tricks, and hacks, but in a solid process for songwriting built on dedication and true creativity.
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
John Chisum is a veteran Christian songwriter with over 400 of his compositions recorded and in print. With a career spanning four decades, John’s delightful calling is to download time-proven insights on songwriting that can set you up for the greatest songwriting years of your life. In this solo episode, John shares three powerful ways that you can jump start your creativity and songwriting in this New Year. Part pastor, part coach, and part counselor, John exhorts you throughout this episode to get more engaged with your creativity and spiritual calling to make the most out of your time and songwriting. Key insights shared in this episode are: Where creativity comes from Why getting quiet is the first practical step to writing powerful songs How to target your songs to hit a specific audience (and why this is essential) Why “writing for the masses” is a myth you should let go of now How to write with emotion to connect with real people How to take songwriting as seriously as your job to see exponential results Why a clear strategy for songwriting is your #1 priority to make 2023 all it can be This episode is a must-listen for any aspiring writer who wants to make every day count. John doesn’t believe in tips, tricks, and hacks, but in a solid process for songwriting built on dedication and true creativity. CONNECT WITH MUSIC CITY ACOUSTICS For a special discount, make sure you mention “THE CHIZPOD” when you place your first order. Website – https://www.musiccityacoustics.com/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/musiccityacousticsnashville/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/musiccityacoustics/ CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS Nashville Christian Songwriters – www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Facebook – www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/ Instagram – www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/ Twitter – twitter.com/NCSsongwriters SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast! ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
The powerful pop vocalist of Puerto Rican descent, Blanca, was born in New York City and at a young age, moved to Florida, where she lives today. The Premios Arpa award recipient’s self-titled, debut solo album, following a successful Dove Award-winning run with Group 1 Crew, garnered two No. 1 radio singles, “Who I Am” and “Not Backing Down (feat. Tedashii),” the latter of which was featured on ESPN. Shattered, Blanca’s second album and a project that is very personal to her, added three back-to-back No. 1 radio singles (“Real Love,” “What If” and “Remind Me”) to her story, along with 104 million streams and more than 39 million views on YouTube. She received her first-ever Tecla Award nomination in October of 2019, in the category of Best Musician Creating Social Content. Blanca’s recent radio single, “Even At My Worst,” became her sixth No. 1 radio single. Also, “The Healing (feat. Dante Bowe)” was a resounding success that allowed both of them to perform at the 2022 K-Love Fan Awards, where Blanca was nominated for Female Artist of the Year. Her new solo project, The Heartbreak and The Healing, is available everywhere now. In 2019, she was part of the main cast of the Bogotá Gospel event, sharing the stage with artists such as Alex Zurdo, Danilo Montero, and others. Cultivating her Latin roots, in 2020 she announced her second EP in Spanish titled Renovada, handling singles mostly in Spanish and collaborations with Christine D'Clario, Gawvi, "Papi Song" with Genio, in honor of her father Toñito Reyes. Blanca has a lot to say on her new album, The Heartbreak & The Healing. She uses a diverse fusion of pop, Latin, Hip-Hop, and Gospel to share her heart about her recent divorce. This full-length album is loaded with positive grace-filled messages of hope that address the pressures of life. Blanca understands that her identity only comes from her relationship with God. The album offers two sides of the same story—the hurt and the redemption. Blanca has released a string of hit songs, "Who I Am," "Real Love" and “Shattered.” CONNECT WITH BLANCA Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/officialblanca Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/officialblanca Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@officialblanca CONNECT WITH MUSIC CITY ACOUSTICS For a special deal, make sure you mention “THE CHIZPOD” when you place your first order. Website – https://www.musiccityacoustics.com/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/musiccityacousticsnashville/ Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/musiccityacoustics/ CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS Nashville Christian Songwriters – www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Kingdom Songwriters Academy – www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com Facebook – www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/ Instagram – www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/ Twitter – twitter.com/NCSsongwriters SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast! ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
In our NCS Pro Song Mastery Course, I teach songwriters that you have a lot more control over your innate creativity than you might think. With the right skills, you can begin to spot ideas so quickly and easily that your title list will be brimming with song ideas queuing up and screaming to be written. If you're ready to take the next step in your songwriting career, hop on the phone with us for a free no-hassle breakthrough call and we'll point you in the right direction. Maybe NCS coaching is your next "right" step to becoming the songwriter you are called to be! Book your call here: https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthough-call
I have personally spoken with over 800 aspiring songwriters in the last 24 months about what we’re doing here at Nashville Christian Songwriters. Almost without fail every one of them has said the same three phrases to me during the course of our calls:
“I just want to get my songs out there.”
“I just want to be heard.”
“I just know God has something bigger for me and my music.”
You’ve probably said or thought these things, too, as have I. I’ve come to believe that we all feel this way, especially songwriters. Let’s just go ahead and admit to God and everybody that we all want to get our songs out and be heard, okay? No shame.
In our NCS Pro Song Mastery Course, I teach songwriters that you have a lot more control over your innate creativity than you might think. With the right skills, you can begin to spot ideas so quickly and easily that your title list will be brimming with song ideas queuing up and screaming to be written.
If you're ready to take the next step in your songwriting career, hop on the phone with us for a free no-hassle breakthrough call and we'll point you in the right direction. Maybe NCS coaching is your next "right" step to becoming the songwriter you are called to be!
Book your call here: https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthough-call
John Marc Kohl is a worship leader, and a singer/songwriter dedicated to glorifying God through creativity. From being on staff at a few churches, to supporting other artists and ministries, John Marc has always loved to lead others to connect with Jesus through worship. As a result of releasing music in different genres, he also realizes the need for worship music to be as creative and as beautiful as Jesus is.
In this episode, there are interesting conversations about uncovering some of the deepest spiritual experiences that both Johns (Marc and Chisum) have had, how to stay fresh and creative despite the demands of life, and also about the demon of perfectionism and the only thing that can cure it to set you up for your most creative season ever, so you don't wanna miss that discussion. John Marc also performs an incredible acoustic version of his title, ‘Still’ at the end of the episode. Stay tuned for that!
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 07:02 What does it mean to ‘stay healthy’ as a worship leader?
- 10:44 John Marc shares what it feels like after your first record is released
- 13:38 Journaling using the phone vs pen-and-paper
- 21:32 John Marc talks about some of his songs
- 26:36 John Marc’s deepest experiences with the Lord
- 33:21 What’s next for John Marc?
- 38:34 John talks about two scriptures that are really important to him
- 41:00 John Marc performs an acoustic version of Still
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
John Marc says, “When you carry perfectionism over to your faith and you put yourself in charge, grace doesn't make sense.”
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Where do great song ideas come from?
Are they crouching behind bushes just out of sight like crafty little leprechauns or hidden under rocks like salamanders waiting for you to turn them over to discover them buried there? Actually, neither is the case. While it may seem like song ideas are deliberately hiding from you, they’re actually happening around (and within) you every day, all day long, 365 days a year. You just need to know how to spot them.
In our NCS Pro Song Mastery Course, I teach songwriters that you have a lot more control over your innate creativity than you might think. With the right skills, you can begin to spot ideas so quickly and easily that your title list will be brimming with song ideas queuing up and screaming to be written.
If you're ready to take the next step in your songwriting career, hop on the phone with us for a free no-hassle breakthrough call and we'll point you in the right direction. Maybe NCS coaching is your next "right" step to becoming the songwriter you are called to be! Book your call here: https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/page/breakthough-call
For a breakdown of each topic, visit https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-ideas/
We’re all busy. There’s hardly time to do all that must be done for work, school, and family, much less cram in songwriting, no matter how called you feel as a Christian songwriter.
If you're ready to take the next step in your songwriting career, hop on the phone with us for a free no-hassle breakthrough call and we'll point you in the right direction. Maybe NCS coaching is your next "right" step to becoming the songwriter you are called to be! Book your call here: https://ncssongwriters.kartra.com/pag...
Not having enough time is the #1 complaint of most Christian songwriters. But someone’s finding the time to write the popular radio hits and great songs you sing in church each Sunday. They don’t have more time than you. They just invest it wisely. If God has called you to use your talents for His glory, can’t He help make the way to get it done?
Try these 5 ways to make more time for your songwriting every day of the week:
#1 Take an easy inventory of how you invest your time each day.
#2 Write in micro-bursts instead of waiting for longer periods to write.
#3 Use transitional moments to think about your messaging.
#4 Use casual listening time to shape your composition.
#5 Set aside one hour each week to bring it all together.
For a breakdown of each topic, visit https://www.nashvillechristiansongwri...
A former children's pastor and youth leader, Sean and his family relocated in 2021 from Denver to the Nashville Suburb of Franklin, TN, where he has been called to create great Christ-centered music, and through this, continue his mission to inspire the next generation to find their identity in who God knows they can be.
In this episode, John and Sean talk about Sean’s interesting last name, the importance he places on the relationships he has made in his songwriting career so far, and his secret to rap at an almost “ultrasonic” speed. They also talk about Sean’s wonderful songs, ‘Purpose’, ‘Intensity’, and ‘Step Into My Story’ which Sean performs at the end of the episode. So, stay tuned for that!
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 06:55 Sean tells us what the ‘Be’ in his name, Sean Be, means
- 08:12 How can we align our heart with God’s?
- 16:37 Sean talks about the importance of having meaningful relationships that he made along the way
- 20:50 Sean raps a part of his song ‘Purpose’, and talks about some of his other songs, ‘Intensity’, and ‘Step Into My Story’
- 28:03 Sean sings an acoustic version of ‘Step Into My Story’
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Sean says, “When people begin to invest in you, you need to take that leap as well.”
CONNECT WITH SEAN BE
- Website - www.seanbemusic.com
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNtBRr6Gp6wAy4q_ZoEVBSg
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/seanbeofficial/?hl=en
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Seanbeofficial/
- TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@seanbeofficial
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CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Aaron Williams is an acclaimed worship leader and songwriter who is seeking to write lyrically rich and musically compelling songs to help the Church voice its worship. He also has a passion for training and mentoring worship leaders and teams with Shane & Shane’s Dallas-based Worship Initiative.
In this episode, John and Aaron talk about Aaron’s journey and his sense of worship, which you can get easily drawn into, as you listen to this amazing conversation. They also talk about Aaron’s commitment to write quality lyrics and discuss the wonderful song, ‘Now And Not Yet’ which Aaron performs at the end of the episode. So, stay tuned for that!
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 08:33 Aaron discusses his song ‘Now And Not Yet’
- 16:44 Having a heart for the spiritual lives of people
- 21:21 What ‘meeting Jesus’ meant for Aaron
- 27:56 Aaron performs an acoustic version of his song ‘Now And Not Yet’
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Aaron says, “Some of the songs that I write, they tend to have an honesty to them.”
CONNECT WITH AARON WILLIAMS
- Website - aaronwmusic.com
- Website - theworshipinitiative.com
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc3XJZCRF3OSKNKTAE5QNuXXvGCws5nl5
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/aaronwmusic/
CONNECT WITH MUSIC CITY ACOUSTICS
For a special deal, make sure you mention "THE CHIZPOD" when you place your first order.
- Website - https://www.musiccityacoustics.com/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/musiccityacousticsnashville/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/musiccityacoustics/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Even though they come from different backgrounds, Jason Clayborn and Stephen McWhirter found their love for Jesus and their love for Christian music as common ground for them to come together, especially at a time when there is racial turmoil in the US and across the world.
When they came together from two very different church music cultures (gospel and worship), what came out was something creative and full of life. In 2020, the two recorded Choir Sessions (featuring, Glory Hallelujah), afterwards they released the Christmas Single, Born A King, which was featured on the Chosen TV series Christmas Special (alongside such artists as Chris Tomlin, For King and Country, and Hillsong United).
Jason and Stephen have been working together ever since, with albums like, Highest Praise (2021), and now their newest release, Rapha (2022), which they perform at the end of the episode.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 05:12 How did Jason and Stephen connect and start writing songs together?
- 13:00 What does it mean to live out unity?
- 21:21 Stephen and Jason share how this partnership started during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic
- 33:31 Jason and Stephen talk about who their mentors in life are
- 43:56 Jason and Stephen talk about their songs God Be Yourself, and Plans
- 49:36 Jason and Stephen perform an acoustic version of Rapha
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Stephen says, “Ultimately as Christian songwriters, in my opinion, it's about hearing the songs already written in heaven and bringing them to Earth.”
CONNECT WITH JASON AND STEPHEN
- Website - https://worshipjesus.life/
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/stephenmcwhirter
- Facebook - http://facebook.com/stephenmcwhirtermusic
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jasonclayborn44/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stephenmcwhirter/
- TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/search?lang=en&q=Stephen%20mcwhirter
CONNECT WITH MUSIC CITY ACOUSTICS
For a special deal, make sure you mention "THE CHIZPOD" when you place your first order.
- Website - https://www.musiccityacoustics.com/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/musiccityacousticsnashville/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/musiccityacoustics/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Have you ever wondered why you do what you do? Or maybe even felt like giving up along the way. Our guest today is a songwriter and worship music producer with a story that you can relate to.
Living in Franklin, TN, Sam has been involved in the Christian Music industry in various ways including as a touring musician, signed artist, and worship pastor. Sam is passionate about spending his life serving God and people through creating powerful and impactful Christian and worship music.
In this episode of Song Revolution, Sam and John talk about what inspired Sam to get into the Christian Music industry, the challenges of being a ‘professional’ Christian, and why sometimes the deconstruction of faith is necessary.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:31 What made Sam Hart start writing Christian songs?
- 07:23 Sam’s history of starting music production
- 21:13 Sam shares where his ‘spiritual center’ is
- 29:08 As a producer, how does Sam bring out the best in someone
- 34:12 What's Sam would say to someone who doesn't even know where to start
- 40:24 Sam shares an encouraging personal story for the current season of his life
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Sam says, “If you really are that good, your work ethic is going to prove it. Every single person I know in the music industry, bar none, got there, because they worked really hard.”
CONNECT WITH SAM HART
- Website - https://samhartmusic.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/samhartmusic/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/samhartlife/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Kevin McNeese is the founder of New Release Today - the largest Christian music and entertainment site online with over 300,000 visitors every month. Whether you're an independent or an already-established artist, you're going to be found on NRT.
In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum and Kevin McNeese dive deep as they talk about the genesis of NRT (New Release Today) and Kevin also shares his experiences of being in the industry for over two decades. John and Kevin also talk about the different perspectives that independent artists bring to the table, and why some Christian songwriters think that they don’t need any help.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 02:59 Why did Kevin start NRT?
- 07:57 Showcasing music in a genre-based format
- 13:34 The different perspective of independent artists
- 17:57 How NRT curates music?
- 23:22 Kevin talks a little bit about christianartist.pro
- 27:32 Why Christian songwriters think that they don’t need help
- 35:36 The one thing Kevin would say to someone dreaming of becoming the next big artist
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Kevin says, “The world's not gonna care about you. And honestly, you shouldn't be caring about the world caring about you. You should be caring about who's in front of you and how that person, how this group of people care about you.”
CONNECT WITH NEW RELEASE TODAY
- Website - https://www.newreleasetoday.com/
- Instagram - https://instagram.com/newreleasetoday/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/newreleasetoday
- Twitter - https://twitter.com/newreleasetoday
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/newreleasetoday
CONNECT WITH CAP - CHRISTIAN ARTIST PRO
- Website - https://www.christianartist.pro/
CONNECT WITH KEVIN MCNEESE
- Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-mcneese-274701220/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Death Row inmates are among some of the most forgotten populations in our society, but not for “The Shack” author, Wm. Paul Young, and his friend, Wes Yoder. Paul and Wes have been spending a lot of time doing what Jesus said in Matthew 25, “I was in prison and you came to visit me,” spending time with a group of Jesus’ followers on Death Row in a Nashville prison.
Young, whose book “The Shack” has sold over 20 million copies and was adapted into a blockbuster movie, exudes the love of God everywhere he goes with a message of acceptance and grace for all. Receiving God’s grace in a tangible way from his wife and family after admitting to a three-year affair and facing the dark memories of childhood sexual abuse and rejection became the basis for “The Shack” that has impacted millions with a fresh look at the love and forgiveness of God for us, in spite of our own anger towards Him.
Included in this episode is a cellphone conversation with death row inmate Terry King, who shares the profound story of his conversion after reading “The Shack'' and his treasured relationships with Young and Yoder. He also tells about his profound reconciliation with a close family member of the man who lost his life at Terry’s hands thirty-nine years ago.
Show host John Chisum, Young, and long-time friend, Wes Yoder, explore how the love of Christ reaches every person on the planet regardless of their life circumstances, including being incarcerated. Wes Yoder has helped promote speakers and authors for over four decades including Wm. Paul Young, Rick Warren (The Purpose Driven Life), and many more through The Ambassador Agency.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 06:12 The importance of prayer
- 16:26 The power of communion in prison
- 23:03 The ‘prison’ inside everyone
- 27:20 Living under the Law of Moses and living under the Law of Christ
- 35:02 A profound conversation with death row inmate, Terry King
- 1:03:03 The fear of death
CONNECT WITH WM. PAUL YOUNG
- Website - https://wmpaulyoung.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wmpaulyoung/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheShackOfficial/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast!
ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Death Row inmates are among some of the most forgotten populations in our society, but not for “The Shack” author, Wm. Paul Young, and his friend, Wes Yoder. Paul and Wes have been spending a lot of time doing what Jesus said in Matthew 25, “I was in prison and you came to visit me,” spending time with a group of Jesus’ followers on Death Row in a Nashville prison.
Young, whose book “The Shack” has sold over 20 million copies and was adapted into a blockbuster movie, exudes the love of God everywhere he goes with a message of acceptance and grace for all. Receiving God’s grace in a tangible way from his wife and family after admitting to a three-year affair and facing the dark memories of childhood sexual abuse and rejection became the basis for “The Shack” that has impacted millions with a fresh look at the love and forgiveness of God for us, in spite of our own anger towards Him.
Included in this episode is a cellphone conversation with death row inmate Terry King, who shares the profound story of his conversion after reading “The Shack'' and his treasured relationships with Young and Yoder. He also tells about his profound reconciliation with a close family member of the man who lost his life at Terry’s hands thirty-nine years ago.
Show host John Chisum, Young, and long-time friend, Wes Yoder, explore how the love of Christ reaches every person on the planet regardless of their life circumstances, including being incarcerated. Wes Yoder has helped promote speakers and authors for over four decades including Wm. Paul Young, Rick Warren (The Purpose Driven Life), and many more through The Ambassador Agency.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 06:12 The importance of prayer
- 16:26 The power of communion in prison
- 23:03 The ‘prison’ inside everyone
- 27:20 Living under the Law of Moses and living under the Law of Christ
- 35:02 A profound conversation with death row inmate, Terry King
- 1:03:03 The fear of death
CONNECT WITH WM. PAUL YOUNG
- Website - https://wmpaulyoung.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wmpaulyoung/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TheShackOfficial/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
The Wood Drake Sessions creates sacred songs of gospel hope to inspire the church in enjoying God. Founded by Kirk Sauers & Paul Ranheim, friends from earlier days in Nashville, TN, bringing their many years of songwriting and church leadership, they create songs of profound hope.
Paul is a minister and songwriter in Colorado, with a particular heart for resourcing the church’s worship and cultivating her leaders. Kirk is a worship leader in Georgia, with a passion to shepherd the diverse and beautiful body of Christ through music.
On today’s episode, Paul and Kirk talk us through their beginnings as songwriters. They also share their experience of working with some amazing writers and vocalists like Sandra McCracken, Leslie Jordan, Liz Vice, and Wendell Kimbrough.
At the end of the episode, they perform a couple of their songs “Grace Will Prevail” and “Oh How Good To Be Together.”
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:55 Paul and Kirk take us through their songwriting journey
- 17:36 The experience of working with different co-writers and vocalists
- 24:25 Paul and Kirk share their primary musical influences
- 28:47 The origins of The Wood Drake Sessions
- 34:11 The one thing they wish the world knew about them that they probably don’t
- 45:12 An acoustic version of Grace Will Prevail and Oh How Good To Be Together
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Kirk says [when you have a song that you’ve recorded], “You don't want it to sit on your iPhone. You really want to give it an opportunity to have the life it could have as a song.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE WOOD DRAKE SESSIONS AT https://www.thewooddrakesessions.com/
CONNECT WITH THE WOOD DRAKE SESSIONS
- Website - https://www.thewooddrakesessions.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thewooddrakesessions/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thewooddrakesessions
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7m1bRGwmqo-TzjM0CSBdVw
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
The Wood Drake Sessions creates sacred songs of gospel hope to inspire the church in enjoying God. Founded by Kirk Sauers & Paul Ranheim, friends from earlier days in Nashville, TN, bringing their many years of songwriting and church leadership, they create songs of profound hope.
Paul is a minister and songwriter in Colorado, with a particular heart for resourcing the church’s worship and cultivating her leaders. Kirk is a worship leader in Georgia, with a passion to shepherd the diverse and beautiful body of Christ through music.
On today’s episode, Paul and Kirk talk us through their beginnings as songwriters. They also share their experience of working with some amazing writers and vocalists like Sandra McCracken, Leslie Jordan, Liz Vice, and Wendell Kimbrough.
At the end of the episode, they perform a couple of their songs “Grace Will Prevail” and “Oh How Good To Be Together.”
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:55 Paul and Kirk take us through their songwriting journey
- 17:36 The experience of working with different co-writers and vocalists
- 24:25 Paul and Kirk share their primary musical influences
- 28:47 The origins of The Wood Drake Sessions
- 34:11 The one thing they wish the world knew about them that they probably don’t
- 45:12 An acoustic version of Grace Will Prevail and Oh How Good To Be Together
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Kirk says [when you have a song that you’ve recorded], “You don't want it to sit on your iPhone. You really want to give it an opportunity to have the life it could have as a song.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE WOOD DRAKE SESSIONS AT https://www.thewooddrakesessions.com/
CONNECT WITH THE WOOD DRAKE SESSIONS
- Website - https://www.thewooddrakesessions.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thewooddrakesessions/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/thewooddrakesessions
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7m1bRGwmqo-TzjM0CSBdVw
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP
If you liked this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast!
ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Sarah Hart is an award-winning songwriter whose songs have been recorded by everyone from the Newsboys to Amy Grant. Grant's recording of "Better Than a Hallelujah" earned Hart a Best Gospel Song Grammy nomination. Sarah works as a singer-songwriter writing music for television, film, audiobooks, pop, rock, but mostly Contemporary Christian music and hymns. She has recently recorded her 11th full-length album called “And Lovely It Is.”
On today’s episode, Sarah and John talk about their faith and the power of books and poetry in a songwriter’s toolkit. Sarah shares some fascinating details about some of her most famous songs and how she came to write them, as well as her own music ministry within the Catholic culture.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 04:20 How Sarah started as a singer-songwriter
- 10:49 The openness to Catholic artists
- 22:21 Some of the most influential authors for John and Sarah
- 34:08 Sarah’s love for poetry
- 37.08 Sarah’s upcoming trip to Ireland
- 44:00 John and Sarah discuss some of Sarah’s most famous songs
- 52:36 Sarah shares what her ‘Take Only One Song To The Moon’ would be
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Sarah says, “That's the true mark of art to me, is that the listener has an opportunity to discern for themselves what it means to them.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT SARAH HART AT https://www.sarahhart.com/
CONNECT WITH SARAH HART
- Website - https://www.sarahhart.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sarahhartmusic/
- Twitter - https://twitter.com/SarahHart
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/sarahhartmusicofficial/
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPGytohiPG_BW69GpPRyrTA/
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriters Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters
SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942
- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7Ayzw23YSLcqV4TZ96hGZ8
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ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST
The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/
Jason Gray, an American contemporary Christian singer-songwriter, returns to the Song Revolution Podcast, almost four years since he first came on the show! Jason was born and raised in Southwestern Minnesota where he spent six years in youth ministry, before going into full-time music ministry in 1999 as an independent artist. He lived in the Mankato area until his move to Nashville in 2015. Gray has a speech disorder, and as a person who stutters, his work emphasizes finding strength in weakness. He released four independent records before signing with Centricity Music in 2006. Centricity released his first major label record, "All the Lovely Losers" in 2007. ChristianityToday.com calls Gray one of "Christian music's best kept secrets."
On today’s episode, Jason reminds John why he is supposed to be mad at him. Then, they have some deep personal conversations about challenges in one’s faith and the challenges faced while making music. Jason also talks about why he thinks self-righteousness is the greatest sin of all, the OCEAN personality-profiling test, ideological purity, and several other topics. Stick around till the end of the episode to hear an acoustic version of Jason’s famous single “What I Wish For You.”
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:39 Why it’s better to wait until a chapter of your life closes before you share about it
- 08:22 Jason shares about why, at times he feels alienated
- 16:41 The sin underneath all other sins is self-righteousness
- 24:24 The OCEAN personality-profiling test
- 32:01 The notion of ideological purity
- 36:48 How we see what we’ve already decided to see
- 38:38 Jason’s experience of having to go through Order, Disorder, Reorder
- 45:28 An acoustic version of “What I Wish For You”
WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU
Jason says, “I think it [the idea] comes from my own desire to escape the bounds of my own self-righteousness and blindness and confirmation bias.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT JASON GRAY AT https://jasongraymusic.com/
CONNECT WITH JASON GRAY
- Website - https://jasongraymusic.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jasongraymusic/
- Twitter - https://twitter.com/jasongraymusic
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jasongray
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/jasongraymusic
CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS
- Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Kingdom Songwriter Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
- Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
- Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/
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Jason Gray, an American contemporary Christian singer-songwriter, returns to the Song Revolution Podcast, almost four years since he first came on the show! Jason was born and raised in Southwestern Minnesota where he spent six years in youth ministry, before going into full-time music ministry in 1999 as an independent artist. He lived in the Mankato area until his move to Nashville in 2015. Gray has a speech disorder, and as a person who stutters, his work emphasizes finding strength in weakness. He released four independent records before signing with Centricity Music in 2006. Centricity released his first major label record, "All the Lovely Losers" in 2007. ChristianityToday.com calls Gray one of "Christian music's best kept secrets."
On today’s episode, Jason reminds John why he is supposed to be mad at him. Then, they have some deep personal conversations about challenges in one’s faith and the challenges faced while making music. Jason also talks about why he thinks self-righteousness is the greatest sin of all, the OCEAN personality-profiling test, ideological purity, and several other topics. Stick around till the end of the episode to hear an acoustic version of Jason’s famous single “What I Wish For You.”
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:39 Why it’s better to wait until a chapter of your life closes before you share about it
- 08:22 Jason shares about why, at times he feels alienated
- 16:41 The sin underneath all other sins is self-righteousness
- 24:24 The OCEAN personality-profiling test
- 32:01 The notion of ideological purity
- 36:48 How we see what we’ve already decided to see
- 38:38 Jason’s experience of having to go through Order, Disorder, Reorder
- 45:28 An acoustic version of “What I Wish For You”
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Jason says, “I think it [the idea] comes from my own desire to escape the bounds of my own self-righteousness and blindness and confirmation bias.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT JASON GRAY AT https://jasongraymusic.com/
CONNECT WITH JASON GRAY
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Chad Segura, VP of Publishing for Centricity Music, returns to the Song Revolution Podcast! Chad has worked closely with some of the greatest singers and songwriters of our time like Lauren Daigle, Coby James, Brandon Heath, Jason Gray, and many more on the Centricity Music label.
On today’s episode, Chad and John talk about the importance of melody, the many ways of experiencing art, and why ‘Die Hard’ is his favorite movie of all-time. They also spoke about what Chad looks for in songs as a Nashville CCM publisher and how artists can remember their passion for songwriting.
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 04:57 The first time Chad was ‘moved’ by music
- 12:30 How Chad experiences art across various mediums
- 19:04 How Chad determines that he can champion an artist/song to the label
- 27:51 Coaching people in emotional transparency
- 31:40 The danger of forgetting why you first started songwriting
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Chad says, “What I've really distilled it down to is you need to make somebody feel something.”
GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT CHAD SEGURA AT https://centricitymusic.com/team/chad-segura/
CONNECT WITH CENTRICITY MUSIC
- Website - https://centricitymusic.com/
- Twitter - https://mobile.twitter.com/centricity
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/centricitymusic/
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/CentricityMusic
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- Kingdom Songwriter Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com
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Joe Wadsworth is the founder of The Online Recording Studio, a one-stop-shop for professional music production services.
On today’s episode, John figures out what Mark Zuckerberg and Joe Wadsworth have in common. They even discuss their shared admiration for Harry Styles. Joe talks about the various roles an artist of today’s generation has to fulfill. He then shares the process that The Online Recording Studio follows once a budding artist approaches them, while taking us through the brand-new website.
If you’re a budding artist looking to improve the overall quality of your music, there’s something special in store for listeners of the Song Revolution Podcast: You can get 10% off your first order on The Online Recording Studio. All you have to do is follow the steps below:
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HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:10 Origins of The Online Recording Studio
- 11:33 The process that The Online Recording Studio follows
- 16:50 How Joe differentiates The Online Recording Studio from labels and other services
- 27:12 Why having a platform with a long-term view, and a holistic approach is important
- 28:58 Going through the brand-new The Online Recording Studio website
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Joe says, “You need to have that cohesion across your music.”
CONNECT WITH THE ONLINE RECORDING STUDIO
- Website - https://onlinerecordingstudio.com/
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/theonlinerecordingstudio/
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Coby James is a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and part of one of Nashville’s most successful record labels, Centricity Music.
On today’s episode, Coby and John talk about Coby’s relatively young but amazing career. They discuss Coby’s favorite superheroes, both in real life and in the Marvel Comics universe. Coby shares his biggest influences from the world of music. John asks about the uncertainty a 20-year old faces in these times and the episode concludes with Coby performing an acoustic version of the classic Mary Mary song ‘Shackles.’
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 03:18 How Coby has “studied” John Mayer
- 05:01 Who is Coby’s favorite superhero and why
- 07:13 An out-of-body experience that Coby had on-stage
- 11:59 Who would Coby be if his music skills were taken away
- 14:00 What does the world look like to a 20-year-old right now
- 20:40 Coby shares what his experience was, as a kid, with Christ
- 24:52 John and Coby discuss about Coby’s song ‘Happier’
- 32:13 What would Coby want his audience to take away from his songs
- 38: 46 Coby James performs ‘Shackles’
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Coby says, “Vulnerability is the key to getting emotion. Being open and real about it all.”
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Brian Doerksen is a songwriter, recording artist, conference speaker, and songwriting instructor, but most of all he loves spending time with his high-school sweetheart Joyce (they have been married for 36 years.)
Brian & Joyce have 4 daughters and 2 sons with Fragile X Syndrome. His songs are known and sung in faith communities around the world including ‘Come now is the time to worship’, ‘Refiner’s Fire’, ‘Hope Of The Nations’, and ‘The River.’
On today’s episode, Brian and John talk about Brian’s long and distinguished career as a singer-songwriter. They also discuss several of Brian’s classics and how they came to be. The episode concludes with Brian performing an acoustic version of ‘Everlasting Arms.’
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 07:30 Looking back at the decades of being in worship
- 11:56 The backstory of ‘Refiner’s Fire’
- 22:53 Songs as a companion for life
- 28:45 Brian’s perspective on being ‘vibrant’ despite the hardships he has faced
- 32:22 Brian introduces and performs an acoustic version of ‘Everlasting Arms’
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Brian says, “I spend a good portion of my passion investing in and encouraging other writers. I desperately need other people's songs because I know I'm not going to write all the songs."
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- Website - https://www.briandoerksen.com/
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Elias Elton Dummer is a Canadian musician, songwriter, and writer based in Tennessee. He was the principal songwriter, founding member, lead singer, and pianist in the contemporary Christian band the City Harmonic, from 2009 until 2017, and released his first solo music in over a decade in 2019.
On today’s episode, Elias and John talk about several topics, all the way from social media to Dr. Martin Luther King. Jr. Then, they talk at length about how to live in Christ authentically - no matter the situation you are in. The episode also features a discussion about Elias’ latest single featuring Citizens - ‘Kyrie Eleison (It's Mercy We Need).’ Stay tuned to the episode all the way to the end as Elias performs ‘Gospel Is Rest.’
HERE’S WHAT YOU’LL GET ON TODAY’S EPISODE
- 04:23 Elias talks about the stories that inspired the song ‘Enough’
- 09:20 Humanizing our conversations around faith
- 10:58 How does Elias keep his own worship fresh?
- 14:34 Elias shares one of his most moving experiences with God
- 20:20 Where do science and spirituality meet?
- 30:59 A discussion about the inspiration of Elias’ latest single - ‘Kyrie Eleison’
- 40:29 Elias performs ‘Gospel Is Rest’
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John says, “The truth of your lyrics can flow through any vessel. It’s not about the perfection of your song, it is about a creative expression of truth."
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- Website - https://eliasdummer.com/
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Hey everybody. Welcome to Season Two of Song Revolution. It's amazing to look back on Season One and realize that we released 150 episodes and had over 140,000 downloads so far. It blows me away. I'm so grateful for all of our guests and I hope that you've been able to catch my interviews with artists like Matt Maher, Kari Jobe, Cody Carnes, Matthew West Kim Walker-Smith, and Meredith Andrews, and so many more. Every show is as unique as the guest, but the common thread is to inspire you to live a powerful and creative life.
I like to say that this is about more than songs. It's about a living better life. And that's the heart behind this thing, not just to teach songwriting, we actually spend a lot more time talking about what's going on in their lives than we do songwriting. So there's always something for everyone.
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If you know rock and roll, you know NEEDTOBREATHE. Hailing from Possum Kingdom, SC, this trio of hard rocking musicians have been at it for two decades and counting, straddling Christian and mainstream charts with their own blend of Gospel, roots, and pop.
Show host, John Chisum, sat down recently with the band’s founder and frontman, Bear Rinehart, not long after the birth of Bear’s third child, to talk about the backstories of their new album Out of Body and the new normal they’re in with the departure of Bear’s brother Bo from the group.
NEEDTOBREATHE has won 16 GMA Dove Awards, have been nominated for Grammys, and are a platinum-certified band with over 1M albums sold. They have a solid fan base and have toured with the likes of Tim McGraw & Faith Hill and Taylor Swift. Their 2013 rockumentary Prove the Poets Wrong is a must-see if you’re already a fan or just want to find out more about them.
In this powerful interview, Bear talked a lot about songwriting, demos and production, as well as more intimate subjects like his battle for mental health and how the band has had to come to terms with conflict after he and brother Bo came to a literal brawl after a show a few years back.
Song Revolution with John Chisum is sponsored by Nashville Christian Songwriters, a coaching and resource company dedicated to empowering Christian songwriters worldwide. Along with 150 episodes of the Song Revolution, you can read more about how they come alongside songwriters all over the world to help them write better lyrics and music to ultimately fulfill their calling to promote the Gospel through great songwriting.
Check them out at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and don’t miss the new course Your Best Songs Now, a self-paced songwriting course with great songwriting insights and a proven process the pros use to crank out hit after hit.
Meredith Andrews sang her first song on stage at age six. Since that time, she has helped define an entire worship movement and become a much-loved CCM Artist with hits like “Not for a Moment” and “How Great Is the Love.”
Meredith is a multiple Dove Award winner and has led worship in front of tens of thousands across the world, but none of this means any more to her than staying close to Jesus and His word.
In this second interview with Meredith, show host John Chisum digs into the adjustments that COVID-19 brought as it took Meredith off the road indefinitely and altered the rhythms of her family and ministry.
Meredith’s fiery spirit and her deep roots in the Word will encourage you to greater courage as you face your own life’s challenges, as well as the global crises we are navigating. God is still God. He hasn’t forsaken us, not for a moment, and Meredith’s reminders and passion will help you re-engage your faith at a deep heart level.
You can connect with Meredith Andrews at https://meredithandrews.com/
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It’s difficult to believe Kari Jobe’s first album containing the now iconic Revelation Song (Riddle) only released in 2009. Kari, one of the most wholesome and loved worship leaders of our time, maintains her childlike perspectives on worship and ministry despite worldwide acclaim, multiple awards, and accolades. Her name, Kari, even means “purity” and pure worship and love for God flow from her in every moment of this new interview with show host, John Chisum.
“It was like sitting down with a sweet friend, or my younger sister,” says Chisum. “Kari is so open about where she is now after so many successful years of ministry and how she’s been able to go even deeper in the Word when a lot of people burn out. I love this interview!”
Listen in as Kari shares from her heart the realities of raising children during the Covid-19 pandemic, the challenges of touring with children and husband, worship leader, Cody Carnes, as well as sharing her deepest struggles as a single person before God brought Cody into her life.
John and Kari discuss her lengthy history of breakthrough worship songs such as Revelation Song, Holy Spirit, Healer, No Sweeter Name, and Forever, and the global impact of her latest offering in The Blessing, co-written with Pastor Steven Furtick, Carnes, and Christopher Brown.
“I think what feels really sweet on this and what feels a little different is these songs really,” she says. “I really dug deep for this album and for every song that's on the project, there's probably five that didn't make it. I just remembered saying to Cody,’I don't want to put anything on this project that won't work at church and in a congregational setting.’”
If you’ve followed the powerful worship ministry of Kari Jobe for years or are new to her music, you’ll love hearing her tender heart for worship and her desire that you go deeper in your own devotional life.
Popular worship leader, recording artist, and songwriter Matt Maher is a deep thinker. Once you listen to this heartfelt interview, you’ll easily understand where songs like Christ Is Risen, Lord, I Need You, Your Grace Is Enough, and many more have come from in the deep heart of Matt Maher.
“I was blown away with my talk with Matt,” says show host, John Chisum. “We actually talked a lot longer than we could release in the final edited version, but I found myself drawn deeper into my own faith and wanting to feel even closer to Christ through this episode. I think everyone who listens to it will feel the same.”
Since his 2008 major label debut, Matt Maher has become a staple in the artistic and songwriting community. A nine time-GRAMMY® nominee and three time-GMA Dove Award winner, he has garnered multiple radio successes, writing and recording songs such as his Top 5 CCLI song “Lord, I Need You” and the chart-topping radio single “Because He Lives (Amen).” Along with other hits such as “Hold Us Together,” “Christ Is Risen,” “All The People Said Amen,” and “Your Grace Is Enough,” Maher has written or co-written five No. 1 radio singles.
Penning numerous songs recorded by Chris Tomlin, Crowder, Third Day, Jeremy Camp, Matt Redman, Hillsong, Casting Crowns, Meredith Andrews, Jesus Culture, Jars of Clay, and Passion, he’s had multiple titles on the CCLI chart’s Top 500 list. With career album sales of more than 550,000 units to date, Maher was recently awarded his first RIAA Platinum certification for his popular single “Lord, I Need You.” He’s released nine studio albums, including his 2017 GRAMMY-nominated album Echoes. He also released his first Christmas album and children’s book, both titled The Advent of Christmas, during the 2018 holiday season.
“What I think you’re going to love most about this conversation with Matt is how it will encourage you to go a little deeper in your own faith, whether you write songs or not,” continues Chisum. “Our show is about more than songs - - it’s about a better life - - and Matt helps us gain a fresh perspective on how to have a better life as we seek the heart of God in fresh ways, as well as seek a fresh perspective on what it means to be part of the Body of Christ.”
You can access Matt Maher’s music everywhere and read more at https://www.mattmahermusic.com/.
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For pop worship band I AM THEY, believing in God’s faithfulness is an active exercise in trust. After years of member transition and internal uncertainty with how or even why to move forward, they are leaning on Hebrews 10:23 – “Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for He who is promised is faithful.”
The band – made up of Matt Hein (vocals, guitar), Abbie Parker, (vocals), Brandon Chase (vocals, guitar), Justin Shinn (keys) and Nicole Hickman (drums) – poured the challenges of the past, hope for the future, and a newfound joy for the present into their third album, Faithful God.
Show host, John Chisum, met up with IAT’s Abbie Parker and Matt Hein at K-LOVE Studios in Franklin, TN, to discuss the new album and the new season they find themselves in as they weather the storms 2020 has brought to us all. This engaging interview includes how the band moved an entire tour online when the world was shutting down for Covid-19 and their own coping strategies in quarantine.
“I’ve loved their music from their first album,” Chisum says. “And I loved their transparency in talking with me about their personal struggles with addiction and relationship meltdowns, including Abbie’s divorce, Matt’s former addiction to pornography, and Justin’s miraculous recovery from a near-lethal addiction to heroin.”
IAT discussed welcoming their newest member, Brandon Chase, on vocals and guitar for this album. Chase graduated from Berklee College of Music at age 17, joined Team Blake on The Voice, and was voted ‘Crush of the Week’ by Seventeen Magazine.
Matt, Abbie, and John have a warm and often funny conversation that will encourage anyone needing grace for their own struggles and undoubtedly win new fans for the band and their music.
You can find I Am They at I AM THEY and on all streaming platforms, as well as on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.
Hope Darst is a Fair Trade recording artist and a worship leader at the Belongingco church in Nashville alongside the likes of Natalie Grant, Mia Fieldes, Meredith Andrews, and many more well-known worship leaders and artists. But a record deal and commercial exposure were a long time in the making for Hope. It was a dream she had all but given up on.
Hope felt from a young age that she was destined to sing. She had tried to launch her career several times, but to no avail. As she describes now, her dream was put on hold for years as God worked on her from the inside out. She calls those her “basement years” when she was learning to be a great wife and Mom, delaying her lifelong musical aspirations.
But all that has begun to change. While diligently seeking the Lord and practicing her faith in contentment and obscurity, God has steadily been increasing Hope’s visibility as a worship leader and songwriter. Opportunities she could not have engineered have been found and she is now launching a music career at a time when many would be looking to leave touring and public ministry for a quieter time at home.
But God had different plans and more than a few surprises waiting for Hope.
Debuting at radio during the first weeks of the global Coronavirus pandemic, her first single after years of waiting in the wings, Peace Be Still, should have been shut down like the rest of the world. Instead, it has become a massive chorus of faith during this crisis. And no one is more surprised than Hope herself.
“All I cared about, John, was God. I want the Spirit of God to be on this song, “Hope tells John Chisum during this powerful interview. “I've heard it said before that, when you write songs from an encounter with the Lord, you lock up that encounter within the song. And when it is sung over people or when other people sing it, they, too, then have that encounter released into their own lives.”
In this personable interview, John Chisum and Hope Darst discuss the deep...
BEC Recordings’ artists Andrew Enos and Michael Landingham (“Lion & Bear”) have suffered more than their fair share of loss and tragedies. The young California natives, actual brothers-in-law, have adopted the theme of lament for their music. And rightly so.
Michael and his wife lost their twin sons within days of their birth. It was their first pregnancy. Then Andrew and his wife lost a son to stillbirth. Michael’s sister later lost her battle with cancer and Michael, a worship leader, found himself caught up in an alcohol addiction that was only broken as God brought new music, and new opportunities, to the duo.
In this powerful conversation with John Chisum, they discuss how the unusual blend of grieving and creativity brought them together to begin their band named after the two animals David slew before conquering the giant Goliath. Michael, through tears, texted a poignant verse and chorus recorded on his cell phone to Andrew that became the catalyst of their first single “Held By Your Love.”
“There’s just nothing that can prepare you to be holding your lifeless child, but I think there are beautiful things that come from tragedy,” says Andrew. Showcasing the heart of both a lion and a bear, the duo’s self-titled debut from BEC Recordings serves as a fitting introduction to the pair’s experimental sonics, boundless creativity, and thoughtful lyricism, revealing they’re not afraid to wade into the pain with people.
“Lion & Bear bring a fresh sound and message to the BEC Recordings roster,” says Brian Ortize, BEC’s A&R Director. “Not only is the music powerful and emotional, but there is personal story of hope and healing behind every lyric.”
Andrew and Michael’s belief that “lament and comfort can exist in the same song” is echoed in every track. Every listener will find healing and comfort for their own distress and loss. Listening to the music of Lion and Bear feels like tapping into the heart of the psalms, those sometimes agonizing laments and exclamations of sorrow mingled with hope and praise.
Host John Chisum says of the interview, “The band is new, but the depth of these guys is amazing. Our conversation was all about how the pain is real, yet, somehow on the other side of it all, God shows you that He’s been with you in it all along. He’s big enough to receive your lament in the hard times and your songs of praise in the good times.”
You will enjoy getting to know the endearing Elle Limebear, a brand new GMA Dove Award Nominee for New Artist of The Year. In this conversation, John Chisum discovers Elle’s passionate heart for reaching others with hope through her music and songwriting process. They also discuss what it’s been like for her to grow up as the daughter of a Christian Rock Star.
Elle grew up watching her father, Martin Smith , minister as the frontman of the groundbreaking British worship band, Delirious?. She found herself at home in front of thousands of fans at festivals or in the smaller setting of their local church.
Elle’s love for Jesus naturally compels her to love, love, love people! She actively serves as a Youth Pastor and Worship Leader in Brighton, UK, while creating music that is already speaking to listeners around the world through her recordings, the self-titled EP, Elle Limebear and her new CD Lost in Wonder.
The future looks bright for Elle Limebear. Her tenderness towards God is authentic and transparent. Her sweet humility and even the surprise of all that is happening for her in music is beautiful and engaging.
You can follow Elle on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. You can also sample her new music at Elle Limebear Music
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The 5-time Grammy nominee, Matthew West, is hitting the reset button! He has found himself in a brand new season of leadership to younger artists and producers and a flood of productivity after a self-described “desert season” that has finally come to an end.
With a whole new attitude and new young producers, Matthew has crafted a fresh sound on his new album, Brand New, co-produced with 20-something producer/keyboardist A.J. Pruis. Along with a new podcast, there’s a new studio, and his brand new Story House Music record label with Provident Label Group
If you’ve been a Matthew West fan in the past with songs like “Hello My Name Is,” “Do Something,” “Grace Wins,” “Mended,” and his early 2020 Covid-inspired hit single,
“Take Heart,” you’ll love this up-close-and-personal interview with show host John Chisum.
John digs into what’s most important to Matthew at this point in his long career and how he’s paying it forward by encouraging and mentoring a younger generation. Matthew shares candidly about the moment he realized that his story wasn’t as important, or as interesting, as the thousands of tragic stories his fans were sharing with him and how he’s turning the microphone around to the crowd more than ever through his ministry called “popwe nation.”
You can find a lot more information at matthewwest.com and follow Matthew on all social media platforms.
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Few churches have had the global impact that Bethel Redding and it’s spin off ministry of Jesus Culture Music have had over the past dozen years.
Kim Walker-Smith, one of the original Bethel worship leaders, helped launch a movement of worship and intimacy with God that has touched the nations and spearheaded ministry through the wildly popular Jesus Culture movement... and she’s not slowing down.
John Chisum has a candid conversation with Kim about worship, the struggles of leadership, managing family and ministry, and the traumas of her childhood that have made her a deep-feeling worshiper. Kim shares openly about childhood abuse and trauma and the miraculous healing journey God has led her through from her book, Brave Surrender: Let God’s Love Rewrite Your Story (Zondervan: 2019).
Celebrating the release of her new solo album Wild Heart, Kim says, "My last record, On My Side, was a collection of songs written from a desert season of my life. I was processing grief, anger, and pain. God met me in the desert and brought life and healing. Emerging from the desert, ushered me into a season fresh with new life. This new album is a strong declaration of freedom and who God is. On the other side of a desert season is growth, deeper connection to Jesus, and a new authority. In the desert, all my doubts and questions came to the surface. I wondered if God was truly as good and as faithful as He says. I asked if He could truly bring the freedom I longed for and the healing I needed. He met me in that place and not only proved His faithfulness, but taught me in greater measure who He is."
If you love Bethel Worship and Jesus Culture, don’t miss this powerful conversation with iconic worship leader and songwriter, Kim Walker-Smith.
This episode is a must-listen to anyone seeking an insider’s look into how a hit-making Nashville producer can maintain his faith while producing top mainstream artists. When you look beyond this amazing list of production credits you will discover that Sal Oliveri is an outspoken Jesus follower who carries his humble, authentic faith into every session.
Country/Americana: Chris Stapelton, Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Kenny Chesney, Keith Urban, Sheryl Crow, The Band Perry, Brett Eldredge, Lee Brice, Randy Houser, Parmalee, Haley & Michaels, Ricky Skaggs, Faith Hill, Jo Dee Messina, Lee Ann Womack, Charles Kelly (Lady Antebellum), John Paul White (The Civil Wars), David Nail, Lori McKenna, Kip Moore, High Valley, Leigh Nash
Pop/Rock/Urban: P!NK, Billy Joel, Emily West (America’s Got Talent 2014 #2 finalist), Brooke White (American Idol), David Cook (American Idol), Dia Frampton (The Voice), Jack Antonoff (FUN, Bleachers), Dan Wilson (Semisonic, Adele), Stan Lynch (of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers), Daniel Powter, Lucie Silvas, B.Reith, Room for Two, Jaren Johnston of “Cadillac Black”, Andy Davis, Kevin Griffin (of Better Than Ezra) David Hodges (Evanescence)
Raised in the shadows of Manhattan, Sal Oliveri developed a diverse musical background. Before long, he was performing as musical director and keyboardist at Harlem’s famous “Cotton Club” and hitting the NJ/NY studio scene. Soon after, Sal relocated to Nashville where his musical efforts quickly earned him a co-written #1 single and a Grammy Nomination. Sal has earned multiple Billboard and iTunes #1’s, with over 13 Million streams in 2017 alone.
John Chisum visited with Sal in his amazing Grand Central South Studio, frequented by clients such as Kathi Lee Gifford, Nicole C. Mullen, and mega country writers Allen Shamblin (“I Can’t Make You Love Me”) and Tom Douglas (“Love Me Anyway”), as well as many aspiring artists looking for his production help.
John and Sal Oliveri talk about the Pink/Chris Stapleton duet “Love Me Anyway” (Douglas/Shamblin) and how a writer’s demo became a hit song years after the production was done. Singer-songwriters and up-and-coming artists in any genre get an inside track to Sal’s musical influences and perspectives, particularly in how he coaches artists to reach their best performances.
Sal shares from his deeply biblical outlook how he believes great music happens and why, giving songwriters and artists many powerful insights into how they can “show up” as themselves instead of being an imitation of what others are doing.
“Tell me again a million times,Who I am in heaven’s eyes,” sings Jillian Edwards, a native of Texas now pro singer-songwriter living in Nashville with husband, Will Chapman, and daughter Willow Faye.
With songs placed on episodes of Nashville, Grey’s Anatomy, Pretty Little Liars, and Citibank Ads, Edwards is in her fifth year as a signed songwriter to mega- publishing company Concord Music Group.
Her 2014 album, Daydream, topped iTunes’ Singer/Songwriter chart and landed at No. 6 on Billboard’s New Artist chart.
Her new album “Meadow” was executive-produced by five-time GRAMMY® Award-winning artist, Steven Curtis Chapman, who happens to be Jillian’s father-in-law. “Meadow” features newly co-written songs with other amazing songwriters; David Leonard, Jonathan Smith, Peter Groenwald, Josh Bronleewe, Tony Wood and Jessie Early.
In this episode, John Chisum and Jillian talk about the challenges of being a touring musical family (her husband, Will Chapman, is the drummer for indie rock band Colony House), whether or not the intimacy with God portrayed in her songs is a constant in her life, and how Jillian stays creative despite the demands of songwriting, touring, and building a family as a young wife and mother.
“Jillian is delightful,” shares Chisum. “This episode will give any aspiring singer-songwriter a bird’s-eye peek into what it’s really like, even for someone as successful as Jillian and the Chapman family. I love this interview and I know it’s going to be encouraging to a lot of people who hear it.”
Jillian Edwards is a rarity you don’t often find... a pure heart, a fresh voice, and someone who’s transparent enough to share the real struggles behind making music as a career.
You can find Jillian Edwards on iTunes, Spotify, and at jillianedwards.com.
Phil Joel, bassist and vocalist with the iconic Christian band Newsboys for over a dozen years, solo artist, author, and frontman for the band Zealand has sworn off social media.
No Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Youtube, Qzone, Weibo, Reddit, Flickr, Tumblr, Meetup or Odnoklassniki, which, by the way has 71 million active monthly users.
Joel can’t be found on any of them. Zip. Nada. None
How can anyone who hopes to connect with listeners and fans as a musician possibly ignore all social media, and further, WHY would they choose to not participate in the billions of daily Tweets, memes, and posts that fuel the social frenzy of our collective cultural experience?
Well, the answers may surprise you, or, you may find yourself questioning your own obsession with likes and shares once you hear them from the totally Christ-centered and family oriented Phil Joel, a classy guy from Down Under New Zealand who says he’s definitely not “anti-social media,” but who has made a solid choice to trust God to be his best press agent and promoter.
Phil Joel’s had the same blond dreads since he was 17 and he’s not lost his youthful zeal for the Lord despite millions of miles and millions of fans.
We talk about so many great things on this episode - - we have some laughs and go deep, as well, into his new book and Zealand’s new album Liberated. I know you’re going to really love this chat with my new friend from Down Under, Phil Joel.
In this episode, host John Chisum sits down with Darlene Zschech, iconic Australian songwriter of “Shout to the Lord,” a song introduced in 1993 that is still sung weekly by millions of people worldwide.
In this powerful interview, Darlene shares how “Shout to the Lord” came to her during a time of trial and why she feels she can take no credit for the song, how it passed through her, and personal stories of how God has used it in her life.
Darlene is a dedicated wife, mum, author, songwriter, and together with her husband Mark, pastor to thousands of believers through Hope Unlimited Church, now in 11 cities internationally, with a church planting and relief organization called Hope: Global (https://hopeglobal.org/) serving thousands of people in the neediest areas of the world.
0:00 The impact of Shout to The Lord
3:01 John asks Darlene: So all these years later, what would you say to the shy young Darlene, maybe really about ministry and leadership... What would you say to her?
6:00 "I want to be invisible here while I, you know, just give glory to God. And if he allows me the privilege of having any influence, that is a great privilege. But actually my goal is that He be seen and He'd be known and His presence being counted"
10:00 Recording Way Maker
15:05 Early days of Hope Unlimited Church and how God has grown the ministry to have a lasting global impact
23:30 "If someone had told me pastoring, a church could be this much fun. I would have done it long time before."
28:42 John asks, "you've described your life as just a series of yeses. What are you saying yes to right now? And what might you be saying no to?"
"My entire theology is a Man, it's Jesus," says Mike Weaver, frontman of Christian music's powerhouse band Big Daddy Weave. "I'm telling you, He is with you and He's with you in the most real way."
With robust faith and authenticity, Weaver shares through this warm and often funny episode about being a big guy from South Alabama who stumbled into a Christian rock band career now spanning nine albums and multiple tours.
Despite a few years of loss and sorrow, their new album "When the Light Comes," produced by band member and songwriter Jeremy Redman, is an album filled with joy and life despite tragedy and even death.
Highlights from this episode:
* Mike's prophetic calling to write music
* Why isn't it Big Daddy "WeaveR"
* Finding hope in the midst of tragedy and sorrow
* Operation Restored Warrior and Mike's brother Jay's struggle with loss and suicide
* How do you find creativity to write in the midst of struggles?
* Mike's words for the person dreaming of being a songwriter
* The career Mike will pursue if Big Daddy Weave ever falls apart
Find out more about how you can become an amazing songwriter at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com.
Mike Weaver is one of the most recognizable and loved voices in Christian music. The success of the band on Christian radio is deeply appreciated, as you'll here in this fantastic two-part interview, but ministry to their listeners is front and center for this southern rocker and his dedicated teammates.
Mike Weaver, his brother, and their band have suffered what seems like an overload of tragedy the last two years, yet the light of their ministry and the hope they bring through their music is burning brighter than ever.
You'll not only be entertained through this episode, but moved to tears as Mike shares from his heart the ups and downs, tragedies and triumphs of the real life stories that have brought the ministry of Big Daddy Weave to mean so much to so many.
NCS President John Chisum is joined in the studio by co-host, Tina Keil, for an intro to this very special episode. Thanks for listening and we hope you'll share it on your social media to spread the love.
Show notes:
- The heart of Big Daddy Weave (4:31)
- Big Daddy Weave's story of brokenness and redemption (7:38)
- Mike's music influences (13:04)
- The biggest challenge Mike has faced (18:39)
- The process of redemption and growth (21:57)
Mentioned in this episode:
Don Moen
Paul Baloche
Paul Wilbur
Operation Restored Warrior
Be sure to check out all that Nashville Christian Songwriters offers to empower and encourage Christian songwriters at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com.
Our world has been ravaged and turned upside down by Covid-19, but you're still called to write great Christian songs, right?
In this special edition of the Song Revolution with John Chisum, John and co-host, Tina Keil, explore specific ways you can utilize the upset routines more creatively and capture even more song ideas than ever before.
John & Tina discuss three ways you can go deeper in your songwriting by utilizing your time effectively, prioritizing life, and tapping greater creativity despite the crisis at hand.
You'll find encouragement and inspiration in this edition of the show along with love and heartfelt prayers from all of us here at Song Revolution with John Chisum.
For more information about this show and it's archived episodes featuring some of the most influential music industry artists, executives, and songwriters, visit us at https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/song-revolution-podcast/.
Are you wanting to "up level" your songwriting in 2020? Are you a singer-songwriter ready to take your craft to a much higher level to impact even more listeners?
In today's show Nashville Christian Songwriters President John Chisum and our podcast producer, Peter Hartzell, sit down in the studio to take a look back at some highlights for this show and for Nashville Christian Songwriters in 2019, as well as to give you some practical steps you can take to make the coming year your best ever for songwriting and building your audience.
Our show passed 100,000 downloads in 2019 with 140 episodes and counting, filled with information about songwriting, the music business, and wonderful interviews with interesting and influential creatives such as 10th Avenue North, Don Moen, and Chris McClarney.
Peter joined the NCS Team in early 2019. He is a worship leader, multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, audio/video producer and owner of Tree House Media specializing in consulting and developing content market strategies.
Learn more about Tree House Media: www.TreeHouseMediaCo.com and connect with Peter at peter@treehousemediaco.com
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Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Don Moen is one of the most beloved worship leaders, songwriters, and philanthropists of our time. Perhaps best-known for songs like God Will Make a Way, I Just Want to Be Where You Are, and Give Thanks, Don’s ministry stretches to the four corners of the globe as he ceaselessly travels to Africa, Europe, Asia, and across the United States leading worshipers of all ages into a sweet sense of the presence of God through his tender vocals and gentle musicianship.
As a former music business executive with Integrity Music for many years, Don has helped bring hundreds of worship recordings and resources to multiplied millions of people worldwide. He has shared the stage with other musical greats like Twila Paris, Michael W. Smith, Darlene Zschech, and Andrea Bocelli.
Don Moen’s contribution to the worshipful experience of the global church cannot be overstated. His not-for-profit charity organization Worship in Action is helping care for orphans, feed hungry children, provide disaster relief, and build schools in desperate areas around the world.
Read more at www.donmoen.com and get ready for the rich insights and wise counsel of a man who has traveled millions of miles to spread the Gospel and worship of Jesus Christ. You can also find Don on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter to keep up with the wonderful things he’s up to as he writes, sings, and encourages others to do the same.
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The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
John Chisum enjoys a compelling conversation with Dr. Mike Harland, Director of LifeWay Worship. LifeWay is one of the world’s largest Christian resource ministries offering a full range of music, Bible studies, research, events, and more.
Mike has been LifeWay Worship Director for almost a decade and a half, bringing his wealth of songwriting knowledge to the publishing world, and he has stewarded his role with excellence and grace.
You can follow Dr. Mike Harland on at on Twitter and on Facebook and take advantage of all the resources LifeWay has to offer:
worshiplifeevent.com - worshiplife.com - lifewaysongs.com.
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The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
Becky Nordquist is walking in a calling she wouldn’t have asked for.
An aspiring singer-songwriter, she would love to be on top of CCM charts, but for now, Becky knows she’s called to use her music to encourage those who’ve experienced infant and child loss.
Becky has experienced five miscarriages and the stillbirth of their son, Niklaus, so the grief is real for her and her new single “Before We Said Hello” is opening up a lot of ministry to many who’ve gone through this kind of trial in their own lives.
Even if you’ve never experienced infant loss, this episode will encourage you as you hear how Becky is tailoring her musical gifts to the opportunities God is giving her and how you can do that, too.
Find out more at www.beckynordquist.com and at www.musicforthesoul.org
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Have you ever wondered who was behind all the music you’ve known and loved through the years? Well, today our guest is someone you may not have heard of but who has quietly shaped the face of Christian music for fifty years - and still going strong today. Meet Stan Moser.
Stan was CEO of Star Song Media in Nashville, working with groups like Petra, Newsboys, the Gaither Vocal Band, Twila Paris, Philips, Craig, and Dean, and many others in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.
Amazingly, when most people would retire and hit the golf course after a half-century of impacting the world with the likes of Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, Shirley Caesar, and so many more, Stan will share with you today how God is inspiring him to add to that legacy through a new worship streaming service that is now uniting new and undiscovered songs with worshipers all over the world.
As always, our show is sponsored by Nashville Christian Songwriters that exists to empower Christian songwriters worldwide, and you are going to want to hear how our mission has now intersected with Stan’s new initiative and how we’re working together to empower songwriters to not only learn more about great songwriting, but also how to be heard as songwriters.
Stan Moser isn’t just a great friend, but a long-time mentor as he is continuing to follow the Lord in new and powerful ways.
To learn more about Worship Underground, visit:
www.worshipunderground.com
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Few Christian Songwriters have the privilege of sharing their songs on the international stage, and Christian rock band Tenth Avenue North is privileged to continually find themselves at the top of the list. Through thoughtful and intentional songwriting, they are tackling tough topics like addiction, suicide, depression, religion, and faith - effectively unveiling the stigmas that hold people back from a full life in Christ.
John Chisum enjoyed a deep and meaningful conversation with Mike Donehey and Jeff Owen - two thirds of Tenth Avenue North. They unpack the songwriting process, inspiration, and tricks for successful co-writing that will help you grow in your songwriting craft.
You can follow the guys on instagram:
instagram.com/mikedonehey
instagram.com/jeffowen_
instagram.com/rubenjuarez_
instagram.com/tenthavenuenorth
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
In this installment, John Chisum and Ross King dig deep into the nitty gritty of what it takes to write quality songs in the changing music landscape. From writing on your own, to writing “top line” with producers and musicians in the room, this show will help give you valuable perspective on what you can do right now to grow your songwriting craft.
You can connect with Ross King at:
www.rosskingmusic.com
www.facebook.com/rosskingmusicpage
www.instagram.com/rosskingmusic
www.twitter.com/rosskingmusic
www.youtube.com/rosskingmusic
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
In this special 2 part show, John Chisum had a fantastic conversation with Centricity Music’s own - Ross King - one of the most authentic and honest songwriters in Nashville. Ross has built a multi-faceted career producing, writing and performing as an independent artist, developing sync licensing content for TV and Film, writing and placing songs for other artists, and co-writing with some of the best in Nashville. Because he has such a broad catalogue of experiences, Ross carries a unique voice to speak into you, the growing songwriter, and provides valuable insight into what it really takes to settle in to a richly rewarding career as a full time songwriter. If you listen and take notes, I know you will emerge a more informed and insightful songwriter.
You can connect with Ross King at:
www.rosskingmusic.com
www.facebook.com/rosskingmusicpage
www.instagram.com/rosskingmusic
www.twitter.com/rosskingmusic
www.youtube.com/rosskingmusic
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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In Part 2 of our conversation with world-class guitarist and artist Phil Keaggy and Nashville producer and guitarist Rex Paul Schnelle, we pick up the conversation about the new album “Illumination”, find out that Phil is the master of puns, and find out what’s next for Phil and Rex.
John Chisum was deeply impressed throughout this interview that these two would much rather talk about Jesus than themselves and that their combined lifetimes of making music was much less important to them than an authentic devotion to Jesus on every level.
Be sure to check out PART 1 if you missed it and share these podcasts out to your social media to help us share the love.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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Phil Keaggy is known as one of the world’s greatest guitarists. He’s recorded over 50 albums since beginning his career in the late 1960’s and he’s not slowing the pace, even at 68-years old.
Recently releasing a collaboration with Nashville producer and guitarist Rex Paul Schnelle called “Illumination,” the duo have recaptured the fire of early Keaggy classics and penned some new ones especially for this record.
John Chisum met with Keaggy and Schnelle to talk about life, careers, and music and the outcome was so special we had to break it up into two parts so you could enjoy the wit, humor, and devotion of these world-class musicians to the fullest.
John’s conversation with both Phil and Rex proved to be warm, engaging, fun, and even worshipful as they touched on topics as diverse as emoting through their guitars, losing children through miscarriage and premature birth, Phil losing a finger as a child, and writing songs out of true emotion rather than craft alone.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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Have you ever thought or said, “I just want to get my songs out there” or “I just want to get my songs heard” or “I just know God has something bigger for me and my music”?
If you have, you’re not alone.
Thousands of aspiring songwriters are right where you are. In this episode, veteran songwriter and publisher, John Chisum, unpacks a few of the myths about self-expression and why your songs might not be winning the audience you really want.
He addresses writing with your target audience in mind and how you can capture the most intimate things you hope to express in more broadly appealing formats to grow your tribe and watch as your songs catch fire.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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Nashville Christian Songwriters prides itself in covering the full spectrum of musical and songwriting styles, and today hard rock gets the spotlight. Random Hero has been slinging heavy rock since the early 2000's and are excited to announce the release of their new record "Tension" (out June 23, 2019).
John Chisum sits down with the guys to talk through their process, and learn how these songs came about. Many heavy Christian bands find themselves straddling the line between the "sacred" and the "secular" worlds, and Random Hero has found their clear voice bringing the uplifting message of Jesus to audiences on any side of the aisle.
If you want to expand your songwriting palate, this podcast is for you.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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What is the #1 secret songwriting tool you need to become a successful songwriter?
Could it be knowing how to play the guitar or keyboard? Could it be having a stellar radio voice to sing your songs and record great cd’s of your music? Could it be knowing the right people in Nashville or L.A. or New York?
Or is it something else entirely that could be the #1 thing that could really set you up to become a successful songwriter at a level much higher than you could have ever imagined for yourself?
In today’s show, industry veteran John Chisum, opens up to you the one thing that could make all the difference for you in receiving song coaching. The coaching industry has blown up to become over a $1,000,000,000 industry in America for good reason. Some statistics say that coaching can increase your effectiveness up to 800%!
Tune in and find out about the power of song coaching to see if you’re ready for it in your own songwriting career and ministry with valuable insights about how it all can work to increase your listenership.
Be sure to download John’s free gift of “The Songbuilders Blueprint” HERE and book a free discovery call with John HERE, but only if you’re serious about investing in yourself to go to the next level in your songwriting.
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
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If you want to get your music "out there", our podcast producer and special guest Peter Hartzell (owner of Tree House Media www.treehousemediaco.com peter@treehousemediaco.com) lays out the practical steps you can take RIGHT NOW.
Peter has an extensive background in marketing and music production, and his insights are key to taking the next right step in your musical journey.
Be sure to download his free gift of The Songbuilders Blueprint®, a new tool that helps you see exactly what each line and section of your song should do, how they interact to build a powerful song people could love the world over, at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/blueprint
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
If you want to get your music "out there", our podcast producer and special guest Peter Hartzell (owner of Tree House Media www.treehousemediaco.com peter@treehousemediaco.com) lays out the practical steps you can take RIGHT NOW.
Peter has an extensive background in marketing and music production, and his insights are key to taking the next right step in your musical journey.
NCS is offering you a FREE gift called The Songbuilders Blueprint®. This a new tool that helps you see exactly what each line and section of your song should do, how they interact to build a powerful song people could love the world over. Download your copy right now at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/blueprint
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
If you're a worship leader, singer songwriter, aspiring CCM artist, or a stay-at-home songwriter who doesn’t perform, John Chisum has some encouragement and practical direction for you in today’s show. He dives deeper into what success can look like for you and how to take the next right step in your songwriting journey.
Do you find yourself saying things like “I just want to use my gifts for God,” or “I have a passion for songwriting,” or “I know that I’m called to do this but I just don’t know how,” or the biggie question for us all - - “How do I get my songs OUT THERE?!”
John draws from over 35 years of professional expertise and success to help you on your journey to becoming a successful Christian songwriter.
Be sure to download his free gift of The Songbuilders Blueprint®, a new tool that helps you see exactly what each line and section of your song should do, how they interact to build a powerful song people could love the world over, at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/blueprint
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Independent artists make their living creating music, promoting, touring, and managing their own career. Jenny and Tyler share their journey as they manage their music career and balance home life with four kids. John calls them the "quintessential independent artists", and John has seen it all.
John draws from over 35 years of professional expertise and success to help you as he shares the one thing you need to know now to succeed as a songwriter.
Be sure to download his free gift of The Songbuilders Blueprint®, a new tool that helps you see exactly what each line and section of your song should do, how they interact to build a powerful song people could love the world over, at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/blueprint
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Are you an aspiring singer-songwriter wondering how to get heard by the right people in Nashville? Do you have a testimony and wondering how to become a successful songwriter online or through songwriting contests? Are you struggling with technique and wondering where the best songwriting classes are and online songwriter training can be found?
Look no further because Christian music songwriting veteran John Chisum has filled this episode with key insights on how to write a christian song like never before and what it takes to become a Nashville songwriter.
John draws from over 35 years of professional expertise and success to help you as he shares the one thing you need to know now to succeed as a songwriter.
Be sure to download his free gift of The Songbuilders Blueprint®, a new tool that helps you see exactly what each line and section of your song should do, how they interact to build a powerful song people could love the world over, at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/blueprint
Check out all the fine resources we offer at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
This is a FUN one, Y'all! Gordon Mote is a legendary session player around Nashville, known for his work with Rascal Flats, Faith Hill, George Strait, Dolly Parton, and... well... the list is endless. Gordon is also a wildly successful artist and songwriter in his own right.
We let this one go a bit longer than usual because we just felt like there was too much gold to cut. Join us on Gordon's back porch in Franklin, Tennessee, for an engaging conversation with a living legend.
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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Are you afraid of being rejected? Be honest with yourself - do you want other people to approve of you? We all want love and affirmation from our peers, and creatives are even more sensitive to that.
Today, John Chisum sets the stage to help you overcome your fear of rejection, and boost your confidence as a songwriter, so that you can share your gift more freely and with fewer limitations.
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Is it possible to keep your testimony fresh after telling it night after night on tour in different cities - in front of different crowds - before thousands of people? Listen in now as founder/lead singer of Seventh Day Slumber, Joseph Rojas, shares his testimony of deliverance from a $400 a day cocaine habit - through the prayers of his Mom - and how that testimony stays fresh after two decades of ministry through this iconic Christian band.
Closer To Chaos, the much anticipated new studio recording released May 31 on RockFest Records—the groundbreaking label founded by Seventh Day Slumber frontman Rojas last year—Closer To Chaos finds the group returning to their melodic rock roots with a collection of 10 brand new songs.
Produced by Seventh Day Slumber’s Jeremy Holderfield, with three selections co-produced and co-written by Disciple’s Josiah Prince, Closer To Chaos tackles a range of issues, including emotional trauma, self-worth and sobriety, among other topics.
It became obvious in our conversation that this difficult yet beautiful story of redemption had a lot of twists and turns, in retrospect, but that it’s a story that is still being written as Joe’s teenage son, Blaise, is now part of the band and helping live out his Dad’s legacy in rock and roll evangelism that’s reaching even younger generations.
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Have you ever wondered if there was just one step between you and the kind of impact you want with your songs?
Do you get frustrated with all the noise out there promising you things they can’t deliver - - all the hype and clamoring about their version of success if you do it their way?
Or do you ever pray and ask God, “What’s the one thing I need most to fulfill this call I feel You’ve placed on me?!”
In today’s show, veteran songwriter and publisher, John Chisum, shares with you eight things you can do right now to get you on your way to songwriting success.
Inspired by a recent Facebook post from award-winning Nashville producer, Sal Oliveri (Kathy Lee Gifford/Pink), John breaks down the hype and gives you a fresh perspective on how you can, and must, fulfill the call God has placed on your life to tell your stories, share your testimony, and be heard for the songwriter you are born to be.
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
David Leonard has a pure heart to worship Jesus through unbridled poetry and song. He admits that he rarely writes alone, and brings along a cast of songwriting superstars to help craft a "NEW" sound of worship. His career with "Jackson Waters", "All Sons and Daughters", and "NEEDTOBREATHE", has helped David clarify his voice of authentic worship that elevates both the Church, and the seeker. His new solo project aims to make Jesus famous, and connect the hearts of men with the heart of the Father.
Enjoy this conversation with David Leonard, and share in his successes and hurdles, as he journeys toward the "new sound".
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
It's really easy to get stuck in the cycles that drain your creativity. When your creativity tank is empty, how do you fill it?
In this amazing songwriting masterclass, John Chisum gives 3 practical tools on how to get your creativity flowing again.
One of the best ways for you to keep the creativity flowing is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now, you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
In a world that increasingly streams music rather than purchasing albums, 20,000 sales in week 1 is more than impressive. It's clearly a testament to the depth and quality of the songs and worship coming out of the "Thrive Worship" community at Bayside Church in California. Lincoln Brewster lends his expertise as oversight for the group, and the maturity shines through this collection of songs. Enjoy a raw and un-plugged conversation with the core songwriters and leadership behind Thrive Worship. You can learn more and get their new album here:
http://thriveworship.band
One of the best ways for you to ensure you never deal with the Writers Block myth ever again is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table:
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
Writers Block is not a real thing. It's a cruel myth. It has crippled quality writers for centuries, and the sad part is that it never had to. Because it doesn't exist... well... it may exist in your mind. But, YOU can conquer it's cruelty once and for all!
One of the best ways for you to ensure you never deal with the Writers Block myth ever again is to become an NCS member. For the cost of a couple fast food meals, you can take your songwriting to the next level. It's really a no-brainer, right?
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we would love for you to help us spread the word!
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your morning commute, workout, or daily routine.
We are so excited to have "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast episode! Word Worship serves worship leaders by bringing the best in current worship music, helping cut through the noise to discover the songs that will help bring the church into a deeper expression of love and praise to God. You can check out all of their resources and sign up for some free resources over at wordworship.com.
Every now and then a very unique voice comes along that cannot be ignored. Such is the voice of aspiring songwriter and artist, Shalom Mukamuri, an international transplant from Zimbabwe with a heart for Jesus and the talent to match it.
Shalom’s distinctive vocals and fresh song approaches are already capturing the attention of the Nashville music community. A unique blend of his African heritage and global pop, Shalom’s desire for racial reconciliation, his hunger to lead others in worship, and our need for personal wholeness as believers are unmistakable themes flowing from this millennial artist.
In this episode, John Chisum explores Shalom’s call to global music and his struggle to develop world-class songs that can break through the crowded marketplace. If you’re an aspiring songwriter, artist, or singer-songwriter, you’re going to love hearing the real time process Shalom is involved in as he seeks to fulfill his calling.
CONNECT WITH SHALOM: http://shalommukamuri.com/
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast episode! Word Worship serves worship leaders by bringing the best in current worship music, helping cut through the noise to discover the songs that will help bring the church into a deeper expression of love and praise to God. You can check out all of their resources and sign up for some free resources over at wordworship.com.
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we€™d love for you to help us spread the word!
Do you believe God wants to use you in fresh ways today, no matter your age? Is there a dream in your heart to fulfill that you doubt even God could bring to pass? If so, you’ll find a lot of encouragement in this episode with returning music makers, Jed & Claire Seneca.
Jed is a published country songwriter married to an amazing vocalist, Claire. They burst onto the music scene 25 years ago as a husband/wife duo and caught a lot of attention, back then. But what about now? After decades away planting churches around the country and raising a family, can they revive their dreams of impacting the world with their songs again?
This is a must-listen episode for all aspiring Christian songwriters, regardless of your age, as Jed & Claire share their experience and hope that God is up to something new in their lives and music.
jedandclaire.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast episode! Word Worship serves worship leaders by bringing the best in current worship music, helping cut through the noise to discover the songs that will help bring the church into a deeper expression of love and praise to God. You can check out all of their resources and sign up for some free resources over at wordworship.com.
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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What does it look like to write vertical "Jesus Focused" worship songs? John Larson is the worship director for Church Of The Highlands in Alabama, and is excited to share a glimpse of their journey writing the songs for their new Highlands Worship project "Jesus You Alone" [GET IT HERE]
You can learn more about Highlands Worship and the Church of The Highlands at their website: http://churchofthehighlands.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast episode! Word Worship serves worship leaders by bringing the best in current worship music, helping cut through the noise to discover the songs that will help bring the church into a deeper expression of love and praise to God. You can check out all of their resources and sign up for some free resources over at wordworship.com.
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we€™d love for you to help us spread the word!
If you are a singer-songwriter, go behind the scenes for a peek into the professional Christian music industry with Jonathan Mason of Word Worship.
Jonathan is a graduate of Moody Bible Institute and has a deep passion for music and ministry. As the Director of Word Worship, he oversees the artistry and publishing of songwriters such as Sarah Reeves, Big Daddy Weave, Francesca Battistelli, Meredith Andrews, Benji and Jenna Cowart, and many more you'll hear about in this interview. Jonathan is authentic, passionate about God and the songwriters he serves, and his heart is to resource the church worldwide.
Word Worship serves worship leaders by bringing the best in current worship music, helping cut through the noise to discover the songs that will help bring the church into a deeper expression of love and praise to God. You can check out all of their resources and sign up for some free resources over at wordworship.com.
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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Francesca Battistelli gives us a peek under the hood of her songwriting process, share her heart for Worship, and answers the question "How do you balance everything?"
You can connect with her on:
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/francescabattistelli
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/francescamusic/
or Website https://francescamusic.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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“When I look back, it’s been very, very clear to me that God has been an ever-present help in time of need,” says internationally acclaimed independent singer-songwriter, Solveig Leithaug. A witness to God’s provision as a single mother of three while struggling to fulfill her call to Christian music, she admits she is one of those artists for whom “the songs just never stopped coming.”
Solveig’s long career has touched the world through her pristine vocals and masterful guitar skills, appearing in 20 countries, winning a Dove Award, continuing to record, and appearing on Gaither Homecoming videos. As one of Norway’s top recording artists (now based in the US), Solveig offers a purity of heart and voice that is rare in today’s music world.
Releasing her 19th recording “Riverside: Hymns and Spiritual Songs,” Solveig continues a legacy of Christian worship passed down from her musical parents. Originally begun as part of a Lenten Hymn Series she arranged each day for her Facebook fans, the project caught in her home church and soon many people were sharing out the beautiful hymn arrangements and requesting she record them.
Produced by Steve Hindalong (The Choir) and featuring powerful musicians like Stuart Duncan (mandolin/fiddle), Matt Slocum (Cello), Hannah Sorrells (violin), Odessa Settles (vocals), and Solveig’s daughter, Kari Julianna Leithaug (vocals), Riverside: Hymns & Spiritual Songs is another treasure to add to your collection of Solveig’s masterful work.
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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Being on staff at Elevation Church seems like a dream job, and though there were many positive elements, fear and anxiety found a foothold. London Gatch shares her journey of overcoming anxiety, and finding her voice as an independent artist.
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
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Are we going back to old hymns and throwing out the modern worship song-book? LifeWay Worship's Creative Director Craig Adams helps us understand the new trend in modern worship music. Bridging the gap between the old and new seems to be a new trend. What's that all about? Find out in this engaging and insightful episode.
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Let's be honest. You want your music to reach the ends of the earth and bless people all over the world. Have you ever found yourself wondering how to get your songs in front of more of the "right people"? Well, in this second installment of a two part talk, we go through some practical action steps you can take to effectively build a lasting audience for your music.
Our guest is Peter Hartzell, owner of Tree House Media in Nashville, Tennessee. Peter specializes in creative content marketing strategies that really work. He offers some powerful insights gleaned from his many years in music, advertising, and marketing. If you are trying to figure out how to build and sustain a lasting audience for your music, these next two episodes are for you.
You can connect with Peter and Tree House Media at www.TreeHouseMediaCo.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Everyone wants their music to reach as many people as possible, but knowing how to actually get your music out to the ends of the earth can feel impossible. In this special two parter, we dive in to some practical tips on how to effectively build a lasting audience for your music.
Our guest is Peter Hartzell, owner of Tree House Media in Nashville, Tennessee. Peter specializes in creative content marketing strategies that really work. He offers some powerful insights gleaned from his many years in music, advertising, and marketing. If you are trying to figure out how to build and sustain a lasting audience for your music, these next two episodes are for you.
You can connect with Peter and Tree House Media at www.TreeHouseMediaCo.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! We can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:
Now you can join a powerful community of dedicated Christian songwriters by becoming an exclusive Nashville Christian Songwriters Member! Tap into your greatest creativity with monthly masterclasses, articles, videos, deep discounts, and so much more - just click here to grab your seat at the table: https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership/
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Meredith Andrews has been in full time music and ministry for over a decade, and has learned that the accolades and exposure have meant very little compared to the joy of growing closer to Jesus by living a lifestyle of surrender.
Meredith's new LIVE worship album "Faith and Wonder" is a beautiful journal entry and testimony of the goodness of God. Though her accolades and accomplishments are impressive, what's even more amazing is her heart to serve Jesus and love selflesly.
[Listen to "Faith and WONDER" wherever you get your music, and learn more about Meredith at https://meredithandrews.com]
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are so excited to welcome "Word Worship" as a sponsor of this podcast! Meredith is associated with "Word Worship", and we can't wait to bring you more heavy hitting episodes with other amazing artists on their roster. To learn more about "Word Worship", check out http://wordworship.com
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Dave Pittman is a masterful song crafter with a world-class singing voice that may have never been realized. When Dave was young, he was bullied because of his battle with Tourette Syndrome. It got so bad that at age 10, he attempted to end his own life. Now, Dave is a beacon of light and hope for anyone who hears his powerful voice and testimony. As an American Idol contestant, Dave is no stranger to the spotlight, and today we champion all the wonderful things Dave has to share.
His new album is available now. Learn more at www.davepittmanlive.com
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
Tap into massive resources, increase your inspiration and creativity, and be part of a thriving community of dedicated Christian songwriters by joining NCS Membership today! Share your songs, experience live and interactive monthly masterclasses, read powerful songwriting articles, watch videos, and get discounts on events and other resources as part of your NCS Membership benefits! Click here to read more and join today!
www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/membership
We are exploring exciting new partner sponsorships that will provide even more growth opportunities for you as you journey with us. As early adopters, you are sitting in prime position to reap the greatest benefit for your time and investment, so don't wait to get involved!
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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MUSIC CREDITS:
DIFFERENT KIND OF LOVE (Featuring Seth & Nirva) by Tyrus Morgan, Chad Mattson and James Tealy admin by Right Angle Music (ASCAP) Centricity Publishing (ASCAP) (admin@CapitolCMGPublishing.com) Centricity Songs (BMI) (adminCapitolCMGPublishing.com) FALL TO PIECES Dave Pittman, David Ray eTIPP (SESAC) Six Eighteen Music (ASCAP) I'D RATHER HAVE JESUS (Public Domain) HOPE'S SONG David Ray SIx Eighteen Music (ASCAP)
In this very special episode, John sat down with our new podcast producer, Peter Hartzell (www.treehousemediaco.com) to talk about the #1 thing YOU should be doing to reach a larger audience with your songs. Peter is an entrepreneur and master content marketer, with high-visibility clients in both the corporate and private sectors. He is a skilled multi-instrumentalist, producer, songwriter, and creative that carries an equally strong handle on how things work in the business world. If you chose to apply the principles laid out in todays podcast, you will be setting off on the right track to getting your songs in front of more people than ever before.
We recorded this episode as a special Facebook Live update, and are excited to make some big announcements.
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to helping you grow as a songwriter and worshiper, so to take it to the 'next level', we will now be releasing our podcast on Mondays. Our goal is that this podcast is something for you to look forward to on your Mondays morning commute, workout, or new-week routine.
We are exploring exciting new partner sponsorships that will provide even more growth opportunities for you as you journey with us. As early adopters, you are sitting in prime position to reap the greatest benefit for your time and investment, so don't wait to get involved!
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Get outside of your comfort zone to create.”
The Song Revolution Podcast is dedicated to bringing you the most interesting people that we can find. People that you haven’t heard from ever before, or haven't’ realized have had such a significant influence on the Christian Music industry worldwide. This week John Chisum sits down with a legend in the industry. Darrell Harris co-founded Starsong Records in 1976. During the 70s and 80s, he signed and developed incredible artists including Petra, Newsboys, and The Gaither Vocal Band. During his time in the industry, he had the opportunity to work with artists including the Imperialists, Nicole Nordeman, Twilah Paris, Kim Hill, and Phillips Craig and Dean.
“While the music isn’t as simple of an equation today as it was, it’s a much more open playing field.”
Since leaving the music industry in 1996, Darrell has been actively involved in the academic study of worship. He is the Dean of the Chaplain for Robert E. Weber Institute of Worship Studies. Darrell has such a rich and varied background and contributes such a unique perspective to the contemporary worship conversation. In this episode, he contributes amazing insights into the concept of creativity, spirituality, and contemporary worship. Listen in and be blessed.
“The only way these songs have any meaning at all is because the Lord was knitting them all together”
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“It’s God that orders our steps. If you want to enjoy success, don’t chase after the market, chase after God.” - Greg Nelson
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum had the honor of sitting with award-winning Christian Music Producer, Greg Nelson. Greg has produced recordings for artists such as Sandi Patty, Steve Green, Larnelle Harris, Twila Paris, Michael Crawford, and Richard Smallwood. He has received 20 Dove Awards and over 30 nominations, 7 Grammy Awards, 13 Grammy nominations, along with a host of other awards and recognitions. He has written hundreds of songs and also co-written successful neo-classical works that have toured internationally. Although he has achieved such incredible success in his music career, Greg is one of the most humble and authentic men you could ever meet. His interview reveals the depths of his heart, and his genuine desire to pursue the calling that God has placed on his life no matter the circumstance.
“I’m not the best. I’m not the worst. I don’t keep score, I just write, and God uses it.”
- Greg Nelson
This article is full of priceless advice for the songwriter to take to heart. Greg discusses the importance of pursuing your life’s message. When you are clear on the mission the God has given for your life, and you pursue it with all of your heart, it is God who brings the increase. Success is found when we focus on chasing after the passion God has given us, instead of trying to fit what we’re doing inside the framework of what is currently trending on the charts.
Greg shares his journey to songwriting success, and what it was like to make a shift in his focus when inspirational music became less popular. Instead of hanging onto a genre that was fading or pursuing a popular genre that was outside of his giftings, Greg dove into the neo-classical works. He continued pursuing the genres that made his heart sing, and God used that passion to create long-lasting success.
Listen in to hear more about Greg’s story, timeless wisdom for aspiring songwriters, the best way to achieve success in songwriting, and how Greg has maintained a sense of humility in the face of incredible success.
“Writing for the market goes by the wayside. Instead, write what the Lord has placed on your heart.” - Greg Nelson
If you would like to know more about Greg and his story, check out his book, Runaway Horse.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Greg Nelson- 1:24
- The Secret to Success - 10:32
- Greg’s Songwriting Story - 23:45
- Greg’s Oratorios - 31:12
- The Importance of Writing from Scripture - 37:39
- Greg’s TedX Talk - 47:57
- The Wide World of Song Possibility - 53:42
- Wrap Up - 1:01:12
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Listen to that voice inside you. Follow that calling, especially if it doesn’t make sense. Pay attention to that voice, and find a way to honor it.” - Dan Keen
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, Dan Keen talks about the journey to pursuing your passion, and the milestones achieved along the way. Dan is a Belmont University educator in Nashville, Tennessee. Belmont is one of the most popular music business schools in the country. Dan served as an adjunct professor for 16 years, before being hired full-time. Music has been Dan’s focus for the majority of his life, and his experience in the music industry is broad and diverse. He held a 15-year tenure as an executive with ASCAP and worked with incredible artists including Paramore, Chris Young, Rivers Rutherford, Nickel Creek, Mercy Me, and Rachel Thibodeau. He has also served with the Bluegrass Association and has experience writing jingles for major brands. He is hilarious and authentic and has incredible insight to offer to songwriters and musicians.
“There is no failure, as long as you learn something.” - Dan Keen
In this episode, Dan shares his journey through different realms of music and incredible opportunities with the music industry that finally led to his job at Belmont. He shares that when he was hired at Belmont, he realized that it was the passion and purpose he had been pursuing all along. Many times your calling in life doesn’t make sense until later, and we might not even realize what it is until we’re right in the midst of it. There’s a continual process of following the path before us, even if we can only see the next step.
Keen shares so much great advice for aspiring songwriters, musicians, and really anyone who is hoping to break into the music industry. He shares the best way to find success is to ask yourself two questions. What are the needs of the creative people and how can you bridge that gap? Instead of boxing yourself in with a particular role in the industry, look to solve a problem, meet a need, and find out how that will impact the world around you.
The other advice Keen shares is, “if you want to catch a fish, you have to think like a fish.” Identify the people you are trying to reach with your music, and then find out where they hang out. Give those people what they need, and meet them in their environment.
“The inspiration comes from God, but there’s also work involved. You have to learn the craft. It’s like any other artform. Learn how to craft your music so people can receive your message.” - Dan Keen
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Dan Keen - 1:38
- Dan’s Story - 6:27
- Dan’s Current Work at Belmont University - 27:54
- For the Love of Bluegrass - 31:26
- Work with Nickel Creek, Ricky Skaggs, and Other Groups - 37:12
- The Evolution of the Music Industry - 43:25
- Focus for Songwriters - 51:23
- Information About Belmont - 57:39
- Wrap Up - 1:03:12
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Many years ago the Lord spoke to me and he said, ‘Just be yourself.’ When God opens the door and puts me on the platform I do a lot better if I walk in my own anointing and who God made me to be. I can’t be as hip and cool as others, but they can’t be me.” - Don Moen
This week on the Song Revolution Podcast, we celebrate our 100th episode with singer-songwriter, Don Moen. Don has written over 100 worship songs and led worship services on every continent but Antartica. Don has also received a Dove Award for his work on the musical “God With Us” and has received multiple Dove Award nominations for his songs, CDs and choral resources. In addition to his writing and recording, Don has had the opportunity to sing with Chris Tomlin, Twila Paris, Darlene Zschech, Andrea Bocelli, Sara Groves, Paul Baloche, and others. Don Moen is truly an inspiration in his heart for worship, his incredible talent, and his mission statement to be an architect who designs products and events that help people experience God’s presence in new and fresh ways.
“Worship is a common denominator. It crosses generations, cultures, denominations… what connects with people is the heart of worship. It brings down barriers.” - Don Moen
Don has been in ministry for over three decades and has literally journeyed around the world to create worship experiences for the nations. In this episode, he shares stories of some of his travels, including a worship service his team was able to do in Katar. John Chisum and Don talk about the future of the worship industry, and the new sound that will rise from worship songwriters in the coming years. Don gives some timeless wisdom and techniques for honing the craft of songwriting. Don truly is an inspiration and is full of wisdom for aspiring songwriters and worshippers.
“I believe the new sound is going to be the sound of the psalms, the sound of authenticity, the sound of suffering, the sound of crying out even in the midst of our pain, rather than a sugar-coated glossiness.” - John Chisum
This past year, Don released a book, full of inspirational wisdom, and stories of his travel. You can find the book here.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction: Celebrating Our 100th Episode // Don Moen - 1:32
- Don’s Journeys Around the World - 12:56
- The Power of Just Being Yourself - 19:24
- Creating a Song Revolution - 35:24
- Worship, Suffering, and Faithfulness - 38:13
- The Practice of Crafting a Song - 48:35
- Don’s Resources - 1:00:37
- Wrap Up - 1:07:16
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Many years ago the Lord spoke to me and he said, ‘Just be yourself.’ When God opens the door and puts me on the platform I do a lot better if I walk in my own anointing and who God made me to be. I can’t be as hip and cool as others, but they can’t be me.” - Don Moen
This week on the Song Revolution Podcast, we celebrate our 100th episode with singer-songwriter, Don Moen. Don has written over 100 worship songs and led worship services on every continent but Antartica. Don has also received a Dove Award for his work on the musical “God With Us” and has received multiple Dove Award nominations for his songs, CDs and choral resources. In addition to his writing and recording, Don has had the opportunity to sing with Chris Tomlin, Twila Paris, Darlene Zschech, Andrea Bocelli, Sara Groves, Paul Baloche, and others. Don Moen is truly an inspiration in his heart for worship, his incredible talent, and his mission statement to be an architect who designs products and events that help people experience God’s presence in new and fresh ways.
“Worship is a common denominator. It crosses generations, cultures, denominations… what connects with people is the heart of worship. It brings down barriers.” - Don Moen
Don has been in ministry for over three decades and has literally journeyed around the world to create worship experiences for the nations. In this episode, he shares stories of some of his travels, including a worship service his team was able to do in Katar. John Chisum and Don talk about the future of the worship industry, and the new sound that will rise from worship songwriters in the coming years. Don gives some timeless wisdom and techniques for honing the craft of songwriting. Don truly is an inspiration and is full of wisdom for aspiring songwriters and worshippers.
“I believe the new sound is going to be the sound of the psalms, the sound of authenticity, the sound of suffering, the sound of crying out even in the midst of our pain, rather than a sugar-coated glossiness.” - John Chisum
This past year, Don released a book, full of inspirational wisdom, and stories of his travel. You can find the book here.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction: Celebrating Our 100th Episode // Don Moen - 1:32
- Don’s Journeys Around the World - 12:56
- The Power of Just Being Yourself - 19:24
- Creating a Song Revolution - 35:24
- Worship, Suffering, and Faithfulness - 38:13
- The Practice of Crafting a Song - 48:35
- Don’s Resources - 1:00:37
- Wrap Up - 1:07:16
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Christa Wells is an American singer-songwriter based in Nashville, Tennessee, with over 15 years experience in the music industry.
As an indie artist, Christa has released five albums, developing a signature alternative-pop sound that is fresh, soulful, and enduring. Her latest project,Velveteen (April 2018) chronicles her own journey through suffering, singing relentless hope across the wide spaces of loss.
In 2013 she also teamed up with fellow singer-songwriter Nicole Witt to create a folk-inspired collection of worship music under band name More Than Rubies.
An award-winning songwriter, Christa has also collaborated with other Nashville artists to write hit songs such as “Held” (Natalie Grant), “Need You Now” + “God Help Me” (Plumb), and “Red Sea Road” (Ellie Holcomb.
Christa is passionate about encouraging + mentoring fellow artists. In addition to devoting regular time to one-on-one songwriting coaching, she also serves one week each summer on staff with Masterpiece Ministries, an arts camp for high school students. Along with Nicole Witt, she co-founded a creative support community called Artist And, which hosts periodic songwriting and creative/spiritual retreats.
How to get involved
- Follow Christa on Social and find more info at http://www.christawellsmusic.com
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Throughout our process we’ve learned what it feels like when friends carry the weight with you. And the only way to get there is to be vulnerable and let other people into your struggle. If they don’t know, they can’t lift it.”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum talks about authenticity with singer-songwriter Andrew Ripp. Andrew recently released The Heart, the first half of a new album, The Heart & The Soul. His music is full of strong hooks, and is written in a very lyric forward manner. While he is an extremely talented artist, this interview is full of wisdom about family, forgiveness, vulnerability, and being more than a conqueror!
“If I want God’s dream over my life rather than mine, I have to be willing to let go of everything I know. Learning how to rest and quiet the noise has done wonders in my life. We have to learn how to get quiet.”
Andrew feels passionately about the importance of vulnerability. He and John talk about Andrew’s journey to overcome alcoholism, and how he triumphed over this addiction and gained greater strength and perspective. His thoughts regarding the strength found in the midst of surrender are challenging and truly inspiring. There are times when we surrender is necessary to make space for something new. Andrew’s surrender led the way to freedom, and new opportunity. Listen in to hear more about Andrew’s life, lessons he has learned as a husband and artist, and how he and his wife abruptly entered the realm of parenthood just a couple of months ago!
“WIth themes in songs, I don’t really think about it while I’m writing them. Sometimes songwriters try to write the song, instead of waiting for the song to reveal itself. The best songs come when they unfold, and you just get out of the way.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Guest Name - 1:26
- Andrew’s Story - 6:02
- Marriage, Family, and Forgiveness. - 12:17
- The Freedom of Surrender - 29:23
- Andrew’s Journey to Find Freedom From Alcoholism - 33:12
- Andrew’s new EP The Heart - 41:22
- Wrap Up - 48:13
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
Tim Timmons’ life has always been one of adventure, but for the first time, the singer/songwriter feels awake enough to actually live it. After nearly two decades of ministry and a lifetime as a believer, Timmons is no stranger to the tenets of the Christian faith. Now he finds himself moving beyond believer to follower, awake and alive to the nearness of Jesus. His sophomore album, Awake Our Souls(Reunion Records), is a portrait of Timmons’ own awakening and an invitation for every listener to discover the abundant life beyond belief.“We talk about all these things I’ve known about my whole life—like freedom in Jesus and overwhelming joy—but I’ve never known it until now, and it’s just this awakening in my soul,” the singer shares. “The goal of this record is to invite people into a new reality of the Kingdom of God that is around us all the time. Here are ten songs—ten prayers—that help me practically live in the availability and the truth of God’s Kingdom,” he says. “It’s a huge concept—the Kingdom of God… We have power, but who lives as though the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives inside of us? Jesus is saying, ‘You can do anything I did.’”In this episode, John Chisum yuks it up with the very affable Timmons and talks about Timmons’ recent spiritual awakening from professional Christian to authentic believer and how it’s affected his entire life, ministry, family, songwriting, and world outlook. Armed with a new contentment in his soul, Timmons’ songs have taken on a whole new depth that is nothing short of incendiary to passive, cultural Christianity.For all the latest information on Tim Timmons, including music, and touring, go towww.TimTimmonsMusic.com, and check him out on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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New Integrity Music artist Alisa Turner is no stranger to tragedy. She lost her worship leader Dad to a sudden heart attack when she was a 20-year old aspiring Nashville singer-songwriter, was bedridden for six years with Lymes Disease, and lost her infant son, London, 71 minutes after he was born. Yet, her heart looms large with love for God, worship, and others, and her laughter and smiles are truly infectious.
In this deeply personal episode, John Chisum and Alisa dig into how she has managed to stay not only positive, but outright effervescent in the face of such losses and offer to the world an endless sense of hope despite the pain. Her worship is deep and the solid biblical foundations of her life support the profound and powerful messages in her songs.
The Integrity Music Press Release says of Turner, “Worship artist Alisa Turner sings with passion and vulnerability. Her songs capture something almost mystical, yet deeply rooted in the hard stuff of the “now and not yet” grit of the everyday. It’s the lilt and innocence in her voice and the heartbreaking, but hopeful truth of her story. That story is inextricably woven throughout her self-titled EP (Integrity Music) in a tapestry of grief, suffering, hope and redemption for which there is only one appropriate response: unfettered, unfiltered worship.”
An independent artist for over a decade, Alisa’s debut self-titled album produced by Michael Farren is available now as pre-sale and for downloads August 25th. In this episode, John and Alisa enjoy a candid, warm, and often funny conversation as they talk about:
- Hot chocolate on hot days (she’s obviously a “choco-holic”)
- Co-writing with high level songwriters like Word Music writer Tony Wood (29 #1 songs and counting), James Galbraith, Jessica Campbell, and Michael Farren
- How authentic ministry comes from tremendous tragedy and loss and how to craft songs even in the sorrow
- What it’s like to be “discovered” as an independent artist and find herself signed to Integrity Music
- Insights into her songwriting process, melody writing, and co-writing (and why she always takes food to cowrites!)
- How she thinks about writing melodies to words on the page
- Why she’s excited about gearing up for her radio concert tour with Greg Sykes
- And more…
For more information on Alisa Turner,visit www.alisaturner.com, or connect with her via Twitter @alisaturner, Instagram @alisaturnermusic and Facebook. Turner’s music is also available at iTunes, Apple Music, Google Play and Spotify.
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By all accounts, Tony Wood is the epitome of successful Christian songwriting. Take five minutes now to read the following list of artists who’ve recorded his songs and then ask yourself if Tony Wood might not have something very valuable to say to you about how to craft songs that span genres, styles, and even generations.With over 700 songs recorded in the Christian music marketplace, Tony Wood songs have been recorded by Point Of Grace, Michael W. Smith, SELAH, 4-Him, Sandi Patty, Natalie Grant, Avalon, Ginny Owens, Mark Schultz, Brian Littrell (of the Backstreet Boys), Matt Redman, KUTLESS, Steven Curtis Chapman, Chris August, Mark Hall (of Casting Crowns), Group 1 Crew, Big Daddy Weave, Pocket Full of Rocks, FFH, Mandisa, Chris Sligh, Mark Harris, Francesca Battistelli, Colton Dixon, Nicole C. Mullen, Larnelle Harris, All Star United, Building 429, Jason Crabb, Joy Williams, Hawk Nelson, Jaci Valesquez, 33 Miles, Steve Green, PASSION, Gaither Vocal Band, Phillips, Craig & Dean, Royal Tailor, About A Mile, Petra, 7eventh Time Down, Kari Jobe, Anthony Evans, Wayne Watson, Meredith Andrews, Kim Hill, the Museum, Oak Ridge Boys, Don Moen, Rush Of Fools, Kathy Troccoli, Lincoln Brewster, OBB, Moriah Peters, Matt Wertz, Mike Donehey (of Tenth Avenue North), 1 Girl Nation, AaronJeoffrey, Sidewalk Prophets, Guy Penrod, Booth Brothers, Cindy Morgan, Mark Lowry, Geoff Moore, Greg Long, Ricky Skaggs, Travis Cottrell, Kerrie Roberts, Clay Crosse, Scott Krippayne, Talley Trio, Bob Carlisle, Nichol Sponberg, Bill Gaither, Babbie Mason, Christy Nockels, Ian Eskelin, Steve Camp, Jonny Diaz, Russ Taff, Gold City, Ray Boltz, Jill Phillips, Paul Baloche, Aaron Shust, Leeland Mooring, Rob Mathes, Wayne Haun, Michael English, BarlowGirl, Sheila Walsh, Warren Barfield, Joseph Habedank, I AM THEY, Amber Nelon Thompson, Ronnie Freeman, TaRanda Greene, Brian Free and Assurance, NEWSONG, Susan Ashton, Veritas, Jim Brady Trio, Jody McBrayer, Matthew West, Tim Rushlow, Jessica Simpson, All Things New, Todd Agnew, Ronan Tynan, Legacy Five, Janet Paschall, Nelons, OBB, Kim Boyce, Gary Chapman, the Martins, Charles Billingsley, Russ Lee, Michael O’Brien, GLAD, First Call, Imperials, Karen Peck & New River, TRUTH, Alisa Turner and even more…If you’re not impressed with that list, you’re listening to the wrong podcast.In this episode, John Chisum has a fun and very valuable conversation with Tony about his humble beginnings and the leap of faith that brought him to Nashville with no connections, no guarantees, and only the faith that God had called him to become a Christian songwriter. Tony shares candidly about the long journey through trials and setbacks that required a lot of tenacity and faith for him to “make it” years after he settled here with his first song being recorded, as well as his uncertainty that the “next song will ever come.”You can read more about Tony Wood on his website at tonywoodonline.com and follow him on Twitter and Instagram @tonywood_exit71.For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!*Be sure to join NCS MEMBERSHIP today at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com for the finest songwriter resources, coaching, inspiration and information!
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- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
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Best known as co-founder, lead guitarist, and songwriter of the British worship band Delirious? with Martin Smith, Stu Garrard helped shape the modern worship movement. Famous for culture-shifting songs like Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble and I Could Sing of Your Love Forever, Garrard helped to capture and define worship for an entire generation as Delirious? traveled the world leading millions in worship and even opening for Bon Jovi.
In this episode, John Chisum visits with Stu G around his new release called “The Beatitudes Project,” a full-length record featuring songs Stu co-wrote with industry-leading artists Amy Grant, Audrey Assad, Michael W. Smith, All Sons and Daughters, Joel Houston, and many more. The album is accompanied by a book, Words from the Hill (An Invitation to the Unexpected) released in April by NavPress, and a documentary film, View from the Hill, now in production.
In this episode, John and Stu discussed not only The Beatitudes Project, but great moments in Stu’s career, what it’s like to co-write with amazing artists, and offered songwriting advice to aspiring writers.
About Stugiology Music: Stugiology Music is a record label formed by Stu Garrard, who is perhaps best-known as the guitarist / songwriter for the RIAA Certified Gold-selling, GRAMMY-nominated and Dove Award-winning British band Delirious?. He is also a founding member of One Sonic Society (although no longer with the band) and recorded and released his first solo project in 2013, Of Burdens, Birds, and Stars. When not touring with Michael W. Smith or adding his sonic paint to Casting Crowns, Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, Meredith Andrews, All Sons & Daughters, Amy Grant and many others’ recordings, Garrard is writing, recording, speaking, leading worship and working with JHS on a custom line of guitar pedals. He lives in Nashville with his wife Karen. For all the latest Stu Garrard news and tour information, go to www.stugworld.com.
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Over the past decade, Aaron Shust has earned a reputation as one of Christian music’s most compelling songwriters and a vocalist of considerable depth and passion. He was named both New Artist and Songwriter of the Year at the 2007 Gospel Music Association Dove Awards and the impact of his song, “My Savior My God” was recognized with the Song of the Year honor. He has continued to build on that early promise to become one of the community’s most creative and trusted voices.
Shust is well known for such hits as “My Hope is in You,” which spent 14 weeks at No. 1, “No One Higher,” which hit the summit on the Inspirational chart and “Ever Be,” which made its way to No. 3 on the NCA chart. “O Come O Come Emmanuel” has become a perennial holiday favorite, earning acclaim as the most played song each December for 10 years in a row.
In this episode, John Chisum connects with the authentic Shust on family, songs, touring, and how to keep life real in the midst of success as a Contemporary Christian Artist and popular worship leader. You can connect with Aaron at aaronshust.com and on Twitter and Instagram @aaronshust.
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Trevor Graves is an aspiring songwriter hoping to be heard in Nashville. His acoustic songs and sound are a blend of classic CCM with fresh influences a la John Mayer and Ed Sheeran. In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum highlights Trevor’s songs and sincere call to write for Jesus.
As a client of Nashville Christian Songwriters’ coaching program, Mastering the Art & Craft of Christian Songwriting, Trevor shares about his journey into commercial songwriting and the development of three songs during the show, which he also performs. Listeners will immediately recognize his talent and the quality of his work.
Songwriters looking for inspiration and many nuggets about the craft of songwriting won’t be disappointed in this episode as they follow the development of a very talented and developing songwriter, Trevor Graves.
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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The Song Revolution Podcast EP 91
Writing Good Good Father and Finding Inspiration with Pat Barrett
“Surround yourself with people that challenge you, and pray for you, and can see more clearly, and help you know the direction you should take in your music.”
In this episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, John sits down with Pat Barrett. Pat is the lead vocalist of the band Housefires, and co-writer of the song, “Good Good Father.” He is the debut artist on Chris Tomlin’s Label, Boyer & Bow, and released a self-titled solo album on July 20th of this year.
“I found such energy and hope realizing that I can contribute. I get the opportunity to contribute to the conversation of how we talk about God, and why this message even matters and that it can change our lives, and the way we love each other.”
John and Pat discuss the backstory of the award-winning song, “Good Good Father.” The song has won multiple awards, including “Song of the Year” at the GMA Dove Awards. Chris Tomlin and Pat also co-wrote a children’s book of the same name, which has currently sold almost 200,000 copies.
Pat has years of experience writing, singing, and leading in the worship community. John and Pat discuss worship music, and give unique perspective to the transformational value that can be found in worship. While the primary purpose of worship is to bring us into the presence of God, introspective worship can help us take a look at our own hearts. As we allow ourselves to become closer to the heart of God, it will affect all areas of our lives.
“In my songwriting process, I’ve tried to be sensitive and awake to the things that inspire me... I try to follow that feeling, and not force myself to put a song in a certain framework or mold… Become a disciple of the things that move you.”
Pat and John give helpful tips and techniques to assist songwriters in all genres. Becoming more aware of our surroundings, and the things that move us, can lead to our creation of music that will inspire the same feeling in others.
If you haven’t already, check out Pat Barrett’s EP on iTunes!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pat-barrett-ep/1392775335
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Pat Barrett - 1:28
- Story Behind “Good Good Father”- 5:45
- Current Work and Community- 13:12
- Pat’s Motivations for Writing - 24:40
- Pat’s Songwriting Process- 29:48
- Advice to Songwriters - 36:32
- Wrap Up - 39:12
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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“When we are writing songs that connect people to God, part of that process is pushing fear out of the way”
In episode 90, John sits down with Worship Leader and Songwriter, Chris McClarney. Chris grew up in the church as the son of a Youth Pastor and met Jesus at a very young age. When he was 14, he began leading worship for a small group, which led to full-time ministry in local churches and inner-city ministries across Nashville.
“My personal style of leading worship is seeking moments, as opposed to just playing songs really well”
Chris’ powerful worship anthem “Your Love Never Fails” has become one of the most popular songs in America’s churches as reported in the Top 25 of CCLI and a #1 song on the Billboard Christian Chart. Chris then partnered with Jesus Culture Music and recorded his debut live album “Everything and Nothing Less.” This powerful live album featured songs recorded live at the 2015 Jesus Culture Sacramento Conference.
“I write a lot of bad songs, but every now and then, I write a song that people like”
Since that time, Chris has released more music and just released his new album titled “Breakthrough.” He currently serves as Worship Pastor at Church of the City in Franklin, TN while touring with Jesus Culture and others to lead the world in Worship through powerful songs and intentional moments.
Find out more about Chris and download his new album at https://chrismcclarneymusic.com/
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Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Chris McClarney - 2:12
- Hearing Ten Thousand People Sing Your Songs - 6:45
- Chris’ Start as a Worship Leader - 8:50
- How Chris Stays Grounded - 13:38
- The Weight of the Call - 20:46
- Spontaneity in Worship - 23:32
- Removing the Barriers of Comparison - 26:50
- The Vision behind the New Record “Breakthrough” - 31:10
- Chris’ Songwriting Process - 36:55
- Learning From Your Mistakes and Train Wrecks - 43:45
- Wrap Up - 48:02
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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From the outside, it may look like Jason Gray has the perfect life. Now in his 10th year as a commercial Christian recording artist with a string of successful collaborations with some of the biggest names in Christian music, number one hit radio songs, touring with the likes of Natalie Grant, Lauren Daigle, and many more, it’d be easy for the casual onlooker to assume that Jason has it all together. But it doesn’t take more than a minute with him to realize that life has been anything but rosy for Jason, despite the popularity of his music and all the commercial success he has gained.
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum gets quickly to the deeper side of Jason Gray. In their thoughtful and transparent discussion, Jason shares candidly about how his broken, abusive home growing up, his speech impediment, his own divorce, and one of the darkest moments in his life in which he could have ended it all has influenced the transparency and depth of his writing.
Jason performed three songs during this episode, Death Without a Funeral, With Every Act of Love, and Without Running Away… each a powerfully crafted and emotionally impacting song that reveals the deep well of his heart and the masterful level of wordsmithing and tune crafting Jason has come to be known for in his ministry.
Among the many awesome moments of this discussion, Jason talks about:
- How the “gift” of his speech impediment has shaped his songs
- How he creates “points of entry” for his listeners to go deeper in the Gospel
- Why our brokenness is the very place God meets us and how he captures those places in his songwriting
- The balance between too much/too little transparency in songwriting and how his mentor, Walter Wangerin, taught him how to “give” to his audience instead of “taking” from them through over-sharing
- How to redeem your pain properly and how God used him to pray for couples in distress despite his own divorce and pain
- Three song categories and how to write for each, including the kind that are “unhewn stones” not to be touched by craft and made as a simple offering to God
- Insightful thoughts on his own song processes and why he chooses to be “invisible” inside his songs
- How “taking tools off the table” leads to creativity beyond our normal capacities
- How writers such as Frederick Buechner and N.T. Wright have influenced his lyrics
- How God spoke to him through an agnostic folk singer named Paul Simon and how God is able to make himself heard with or without our permission
- What the future may be for his songwriting and ministry
Anyone cynical about contemporary Christian music has yet to discover Jason Gray. This podcast will stir your creativity, challenge your preconceived notions about who God can or cannot use, and will dare you to face your own brokenness and need for Jesus, whether you write songs or just love listening to them.
You can connect with Jason Gray at jasongraymusic.com and follow him on FaceBook, Twitter, and Instagram.
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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“That desire to write was always in me. That desire to sing was always in me, but I just thought it was for myself.”
On this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, Linda Doane lends her testimony and her insight to John Chisum, detailing her battle with cancer and the release of Powerful, her brand-new album in partnership with Inspiration Worship. Although music was always a part of Linda’s private life, she never shared her talents and her voice until after her second diagnosis with stage four Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma in 2014. It was then that she and her husband Tom looked at each other and decided to take a leap of faith and pursue Linda’s true calling in music.
“That was a lesson actually I had to learn after recording Whose. I felt like it was God pouring right through me and I felt like when he gave me that song, He said if I am the answer to the questions in Whose, then this is your go time. Go.”
As Linda tried to navigate her diagnosis and treatment, juggling doctor’s appointments alongside her daughter’s illness and a death in the family, she leaned on God and on one word alone- “Faith.” Through it all, her heart for God and desire to keep living and making great music propelled her forward, towards healing and a fruitful partnership with Ian Eskelin, who became Linda’s friend, champion, and producer for Powerful. Linda’s strength, creativity, and deep love for Jesus shine through every word she speaks in this interview, and she takes time to encourage and inspire anyone listening and harboring an unfulfilled dream.
“Early on, Ian said, ‘content is king.’ And I would encourage people to continue writing, continue getting feedback, and just if the desire is truly there, keep moving forward.”
As John and Linda unpack her journey through healing and music, she also talks honestly about the ins and outs of creating music as an independent artist. She discusses how good rejection can feel, refusing to compromise on core values, and using your unique talents to the glory of God. Hearing Linda Doane speak about her journey through sickness to success in Christ will inspire and uplift you.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Linda Doane - 0:38
- Linda’s Passion for Music - 2:33
- Ian Eskelin and Whose - 4:38
- Faith and the “Diag-no-sis”- 10:39
- Inspiration Worship- 16:19
- Advice for the Talented and Lost- 26:25
- Growing as an Independent Artist- 29:22
- Closing Thoughts- 34:55
- Outro- 37:17
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
- Visit Linda and her work at www.inspirationworship.com
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“It’s incredible to be able to take what God has entrusted to us, and impart that to the Body… this is about us coming together and lifting up the name of Jesus. We’re here to empower generations.”
This week on the Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum and BJ Pridham discuss worship, songwriting, and staying humble while playing music in front of hundreds of thousands of people. BJ is the worship pastor at Planetshakers, Church, a dynamic church based in Melbourne, Australia. The Planetshakers travel globally, playing worship sets for churches and conferences.
“We’re out there doing life with people. We really want to empower people to experience all they can with God, and to live a life full of Kingdom benefit. This is about transforming people’s lives, and therefore transforming nations.”
Throughout this interview, BJ’s love for the Lord is so evident. He gives excellent advice to aspiring songwriters about remaining humble, keeping your life in order, and listening for God’s voice to guide the songwriting process. BJ encourages aspiring songwriters to be daring and bold in the songwriting process. Many people can feel like “there is nothing new under the sun,” and struggle to come up with original concepts. However, BJ shares that your moment of encounter could be a catalyst for another person’s breakthrough. This episode is sure to inspire and motivate you in your songwriting ventures!
“You just don’t know where you’ll be when God speaks. I think my head is full of great ideas, but that’s not necessarily what I’m looking for. I want God to speak something, and I want to capture that in my songwriting.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Guest Name - 2:11
- How BJ Joined the Planetshakers - 6:22
- Favorite Songs - 9:32
- Travel with Planetshakers - 11:52
- How the Mission of the Planetshakers Impacts Their Ministry - 15:50
- Writing in the Group - 20:02
- Performance and Ego - 24:55
- BJ’s Songwriting Process - 30:32
- Upcoming Plans for Planetshakers - 37:12
- Advice for Aspiring Songwriters - 39:30
- Wrap Up - 41:44
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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“When God puts something together, it doesn’t have to look like anything you’ve ever seen or sound like anything you’ve ever heard, there’s an anointing and power to it.””
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum and Jackie Patillo talk about the gospel music industry, and the past, present, and future of gospel music. Jackie Patillo is the Executive Director of the Gospel Music Association. She has a rich history in the music industry, working as the Vice President of Star Song Communications, as well as working for Benson Music Group, Integrity, and Verity. She has had the opportunity to help develop and give guidance to the music career of many artists including Phillips, Craig & Dean, Joe Pace and The Colorado Mass Choir, Israel and New Breed, Natalie Grant, Donnie McClurkin, Kirk Franklin, Byron Cage, Kurt Carr, Dave Hollister.
“There is nothing like being able to put words in the mouth of the Church to extol our King, there’s nothing more powerful than that.”
The term “Gospel Music” can at times lend itself to certain connotations about genre and style. However, in this podcast we talk about the wide range of gospel music, and the reach of gospel music across a wide variety of genres. Part of Jackie’s role at GMA is running the Dove Awards that are hosted each year in Nashville. Jackie provides a sneak peek behind the work done behind the scenes for this Awards ceremony, as well as other events that occur throughout the year.
“Gospel music is not defined by its style, but by its message.”
The Gospel Music Association has created new opportunities for young Christian creatives to find connection and career development. They have a program devoted to Christian Executives under 30, and also a community to support band wives.
If you aren’t already a part of GMA, you should be! Visit their website to learn more, and join a community that will support your aspirations as a songwriter.
“I consider our artists modern day Christian soldiers… They’re heeding the call, they’re using their talents and giftings, and they’re making sacrifice to spread the gospel through music.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Jackie Patillo - 0:56
- Jackie’s Journey in the CCM Industry - 3:12
- Jackie’s work with GMA & The Dove Awards - 10:15
- Work at Lipscomb University - 20:50
- The Past, Present, and Future of GMA - 24:50
- The Mission of GMA - 35:12
- Opportunities for Young Christian Creatives - 37:32
- Wrap Up - 41:22
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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“Songs are more assembled than written… Pro songwriters understand the craft of songwriting and they use every tool they have to assemble a good song.”
Last weekend, Nashville Christian Songwriters hosted the 4th Songwriting Intensive Weekend. Forty aspiring songwriters came together with professional level song coaches and speakers from the Contemporary Christian Music industry to learn, write together, get invaluable critiques, and develop a strong songwriting community. Songwriters left empowered with next steps for their songwriting endeavors. We are sure to sell out for the next intensive, so stay connected to NCS and The Song Revolution Podcast so you can register early and secure your spot.
“Great writers spend more time looking for great ideas than they do actually writing the song... Great ideas rarely come from sitting down at your laptop or at an instrument and waiting for them to happen. ”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John shares one of his dynamic teachings from the Intensive Weekend. Pro-songwriters crank out hit after hit, have you ever wondered how? John gives insight into the importance of assembling your song, instead of simply writing out of emotion. He breaks down the different components of a hit song, giving advice and actionable tips for each. Listen in and take one of your songs from good to great today!
“Pro-songwriters know that great ideas often begin with a tiny seed, a phrase, an inkling of something that should be written.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction - 2:08
- Intensive Recap - 5:02
- The First Secret to Building a Good Song - 12:36
- Where Do Great Song Ideas Come From? - 19:12
- Finding and Developing Your “Hook” - 30:00
- Focused and Dynamic Lyric Writing - 37:22
- Melodic Development - 42:40
- Wrap Up - 53:34
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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“One thing I always feared is what if this is the last song I ever write, or what if this is the last good idea I ever have, and that’s a lie from the enemy. You’re always going to write another song, and that’s how you should approach co-writes and rewrites and new versions of songs.”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John sat down with professional songwriter and worship leader, Krissy Nordhoff. Krissy is a writer for Integrity Music, a 3 time Dove Award Nominee, and writer of the dynamic worship song, Your Great Name. She has written songs for several artists including Natalie Grant, Mandisa, Aaron Shust, Darlene Zschech, Lauren Daigle, Anthony Evans, and Meredith Andrews. Krissy also has a mentorship program for women called Brave Worship. In the episode, Krissy shares about this program being birthed from her own desire to have a mentor to help her navigate the music industry and her personal life.
“There are several different purposes for songs. Sometimes we just see we want our songs to reach the whole entire world, but that might not be what the Lord has in mind. It might be a song to bless Him, or a song to bless you personally, or something you want to give as a gift.”
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- The art of giving and receiving helpful songwriting feedback
- The joy of connecting into a great community of worship songwriters
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Check out this week's podcast where John Chisum talks with Krissy about her songwriting journey, her deep desire to mentor younger women in worship and worship songwriting, and learn the story of the massively popular song Your Great Name.
“Our songs may be fighting battles that we never lay our eyes on until we get into heaven. Or we may have a song that trickles out and reaches a heart that we never knew and changes a life. We can never underestimate the power of song.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Krissy Nordhoff - 0:36
- Krissy’s Story - 3:40
- The Progression of “Your Great Name” - 11:02
- Writing, Re-Writing and Revisions - 15:03
- The Song that Changed Krissy’s Life - 19:45
- Writer’s Personality Test - 24:48
- Mentoring and Songwriting - 32:30
- Advice to Beginning Songwriters - 37:38
- Maintaining Humility in the Midst of Success - 41:04
- Worship Writer Mentorship - 45:52
- The Rest of the Story: Your Great Name - 53:55
- Wrap Up - 30:00
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“This whole thing is not about instant gratification. You have to work and learn your craft.”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum spent time with Lowell Alexander. While you may not recognize the name, you would definitely recognize his work. Lowell has had over 600 songs published, and has worked with some of the best. His songs have been recorded by some of the top artists in the industry, including Point of Grace, Selah, Amy Grant, Art Garfunkle, Sandy Patti, Bill Gaither, Natalie Grant, Ellie Holcomb, and the list goes on!
“Read, read, read! If you’re going to write beautiful words, you have to be filled with beautiful words!”
Unlike most individuals in the music industry, the career actually found him. Lowell began as a teacher at a private Christian school, and was discovered by Rich Mullins at the age of 22. You’ll want to listen to this episode to hear more about how Lowell went from school teacher to staff writer, stepped away from music for a season, and then jumped back in. He has achieved great success in his craft, and has some incredible insight and wisdom to share with listeners.
“There’s a difference between surface lyrics and simple lyrics. There’s a lot of surface stuff that goes on out there, something that is simple and profound, that sums up the gospel, is so powerful ”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Lowell Alexander - 0:39
- Lowell’s Start as a Songwriter - 4:11
- Highlights of Lowell’s Songwriting Career - 16:43
- Taking a Break from the Business - 27:43
- Returning to Music - 34:15
- The Importance of Reading as a Songwriter - 38:32
- Lowell’s Current Work: The Miracle in Bedford Falls - 51:11
- Two Songs Lowell Can’t Sing - 57:11
- Advice to the Aspiring Songwriter - 1:00:30
- Wrap Up - 1:12:08
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“This whole thing is not about instant gratification. You have to work and learn your craft.”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum spent time with Lowell Alexander. While you may not recognize the name, you would definitely recognize his work. Lowell has had over 600 songs published, and has worked with some of the best. His songs have been recorded by some of the top artists in the industry, including Point of Grace, Selah, Amy Grant, Art Garfunkle, Sandy Patti, Bill Gaither, Natalie Grant, Ellie Holcomb, and the list goes on!
“Read, read, read! If you’re going to write beautiful words, you have to be filled with beautiful words!”
Unlike most individuals in the music industry, the career actually found him. Lowell began as a teacher at a private Christian school, and was discovered by Rich Mullins at the age of 22. You’ll want to listen to this episode to hear more about how Lowell went from school teacher to staff writer, stepped away from music for a season, and then jumped back in. He has achieved great success in his craft, and has some incredible insight and wisdom to share with listeners.
“There’s a difference between surface lyrics and simple lyrics. There’s a lot of surface stuff that goes on out there, something that is simple and profound, that sums up the gospel, is so powerful ”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Lowell Alexander - 0:39
- Lowell’s Start as a Songwriter - 4:11
- Highlights of Lowell’s Songwriting Career - 16:43
- Taking a Break from the Business - 27:43
- Returning to Music - 34:15
- The Importance of Reading as a Songwriter - 38:32
- Lowell’s Current Work: The Miracle in Bedford Falls - 51:11
- Two Songs Lowell Can’t Sing - 57:11
- Advice to the Aspiring Songwriter - 1:00:30
- Wrap Up - 1:12:08
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“We have to treat our songs not as something holy, but just as a song… ‘Ain’t nothin holy but the Lord.’ If we cling to what we wrote so tightly that it can only ever be that, if someone doesn’t like that, it won’t get cut. If my goal is to bear fruit and to affect the kingdom when an artist cuts it, who am I to say no?”
This week on The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum sits down with Kenna Turner West on the famous Music Row in Nashville, TN. As an incredibly accomplished, award-winning songwriter, it’s safe to say that Kenna is the Queen of Southern Gospel Songwriting! Kenna has written 34 #1 Hit Songs for major artists including The Talley Trio, The Martins, Legacy 5, Brian Free and Assurance, and the Hoppers. She has performed alongside Amy Grant, Vince Gill, Ricky Skaggs, CeCe Winans, Charles Billingsley, The Cathedrals, The Talleys, and so many others.
“I’ve stirred the gift and fanned the flame as much as I can, so now when I feel the Lord nudging me to write, it’s better than it was 20 years ago.”
While Kenna’s musical accomplishments are incredibly impressive, her heart for Jesus and desire for others to understand Him more fully through her music is, perhaps, the most remarkable thing about her. This passion is so evident in this episode, and Kenna does such a wonderful job of helping listeners recognize how songwriting can be a ministry, and how best to hone your craft to have a platform to spread the Good News to the world.
“There’s a thousand ways to learn songwriting, and it would be crazy not to take advantage of those ways, to take the gifting that we have, and take the passion that we have, and make it better.”
Kenna also discusses the art of songwriting, the importance of honing your craft, and recognizing the need to be pliable when it comes to your songs. She encourages listeners to stop seeing your song as ‘holy,’ be brave enough to move the words of your songs around, to create something that will be marketable. Her expert perspective as a seasoned commercial writer is eye-opening, and will be sure to challenge you in the best way.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Kenna Turner West - 1:25
- Kenna’s Rich Legacy in Music - 5:06
- Kenna’s Music Background - 11:02
- Tips for Pitching Songs - 19:45
- The Importance of Learning Your Craft - 22:12
- The Best Part of the Song Process - 31:20
- Kenna’s Songwriting Process - 34:37
- Advice for the Songwriter - 52:50
- How to Connect with Kenna - 57:34
- Wrap Up - 59:36
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“The mistake I see young writers making sometimes... is they focus most of their energy on what they can do, instead of focusing their energy on being who they should be. If you’ll be who God wants you to be, He’ll take care of the doing what you should do.”
In this episode, John Chisum interviews the inimitable Dr. Mike Harland, Director of LifeWay Worship. LifeWay has reach into millions of believers and is one of the world’s largest Christian resource ministries offering a full range of music, Bible studies, research, events, and much more.
”I think we undervalue the process of writing songs, the impact that has on you the writer... The process of sitting down with pen and paper and pouring your heart out in song shapes you.”
Mike Harland has been at the helm of LifeWay Worship for twelve years and brings an amazing amount of information and depth about songs, songwriting, and the publishing industry in this powerful show.
“Get in that space in your head, where you learn all about the craft and then ‘forget it’ to be able to do what you do. Let the Lord anoint it and enable it.”
Catch up with Mike Harland on Twitter at @mikeharlandLW, on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/mike.harland.37 and check out all the great resources LifeWay offers at Worshiplifeevent.com, Worshiplife.com, Lifewaysongs.com.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- How to write from the overflow of your devotion to God
- How to follow God’s leading into your destiny and be who YOU are as a Christian songwriter
- Why character matters more than ability
- How frustration shuts you down creatively
- Remembering that intimacy with God is our real “platform”
- What LifeWay Worship is doing this year you should know about
- Why no one would be “served well” if publishers threw their doors open to receive unsolicited material and how you can really be heard as an unpublished writer
- Why you can’t hide a GREAT song (and how “I Can Only Imagine” was born)
- How great songs will always “find their way” to the forefront
- How songs are “good,” “great,” or “commercial”
- What makes a song unique and the distance between great songs and commercial songs
- What motivates publishers to publish YOUR songs
- Why we don’t need another Lauren Daigle
- Fanny Crosby, Xiao Min, and the idea of God “dropping songs” on people
- Mike’s tips on song process and why we undervalue the process of writing songs and its effects on us as songwriters
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“There are definitely challenges and struggles that come with being on the road, I think people forget about the challenge that comes along with it. If you do feel called to it, you have to learn how to balance time with your community, and time on the road.”
In this unique episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum sits down with Drakeford. Drakeford is a husband and wife folk/pop singer-songwriter duo based in Chattanooga, TN. They share the story of how they met doing street ministry and ended up married and living in the mountains of Chattanooga, TN. Drakeford and Lucy-Jayne give an update of their current work and play us some songs from the new record.
“If you don’t jump out there, play open mics, show people songs, get in the car and drive to play at a church gig… if you don’t dare to step up there and do it, you will never know what sort of potential God’s put in you and your songs, and in the opportunities He’s presented.”
Drakeford and Lucy-Jayne share the ups and downs they experience in their life of touring as indie artists. They have the opportunity to embark on amazing adventures, including singing with a church choir in old cathedrals in Wales. However, in the midst of “living the dream,” they discuss the challenges of operating outside of a label, missing out on important family life events, and finding a balance of community life, and travel. Drakeford, Lucy-Jayne, and John give practical advice to musicians who feel that their passion is to pursue a life of touring.
“I think growth is really where God wants us to be. It’s never perfection.”
If you haven’t had the opportunity yet, check out Drakeford’s new album!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-venture/1378762158
If you would like to financially support Drakeford, send them a message at-
https://www.drakefordmusic.com/contact
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Drakeford - 0:39
- **Stronger - 1:56
- Drakeford’s Story - 7:50
- **Chattanooga - 11:53
- Drakeford’s Current Work - 18:48
- **Creation to Salvation - 25:49
- “The Venture” - 30:22
- Sharing the Gospel with Secular Audiences - 37:20
- **Forever Amen - 40:20
- Life as “Musicianaries” - 46:50
- Advice to Songwriters - 53:00
- **Ready Or Not - 54:50
- Wrap Up - 1:00:00
**Drakeford’s songs - old, new, and Song Revolution Podcast exclusive!
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“The process of discovering a song, is that it comes together. It may just be a thought, or an idea, or a line. As you move forward, though, it will unfold before you.”
In this episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum sits down with one of Nashville’s most influential songwriters and artists, Cindy Morgan. Cindy is a two time Grammy nominee, and the recipient of 12 Dove Awards. She has written 21 #1 hits and co-written with a multitude of notable artists including Amy Grant, India.Arie, Rascal Flatts, Natalie Grant, Michael W. Smith, Point of Grace, Mandisa, Francesca Battistelli, and so many others.
She presents a beautiful and unique sound, and is an example of owning individuality in every component of the craft. Cindy gives insight into how she found her voice, and recognized her strength as a singer songwriter, and abandoned the “need” to write the genre she felt would sell the best.
“When you’ve been carrying the story with you your whole life, it comes out easy, because you know it. A lot of times we run away from what we know, we try to write what will sell.”
Cindy is currently working on an album called Bad Creek, set to begin recording in August. She draws inspiration from the rich musical legacy of her family, and her childhood in the backwoods of Kentucky. This album will be a tribute to this heritage, and this episode of Song Revolution Podcast features a song we can look forward to hearing on the album!
In addition to this album, Cindy is also writing an EP based on love songs of the Old Testament. She and John discuss the flawed nature of the characters of the Old Testament, but the passion for God that can be found in the midst of their failures.
“The goal in songwriting is to find pure, fresh eyes for something that is familiar.”
If you would like to hear more of Cindy’s music and stay up to date with her current projects, you can visit www.cindymorganmusic.com
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Cindy Morgan - 2:10
- Cindy’s Start with Music - 11:26
- Cindy’s Current Work - 14:50
- Track Writing, Top Line Writing, and Writing Organically - 17:20
- Notable Work With Artists - 24:30
- Musical Roots - 26:50
- Bad Creek: Album and Documentary - 29:20
- ** Preacher Woman - 35:20
- Cindy’s Songwriting Process - 40:20
- Writing Love Songs from the Old Testament - 47:40
- ** West of Nod - 48:40
- Connecting with Cindy Morgan - 1:01:23
- Advice for Songwriters - 1:03:05
- Wrap Up - 1:05:00
** Listen to some of Cindy’s music!
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Surround yourself with people that challenge you, and pray for you, and can see more clearly, and help you know the direction you should take in your music.”
In this episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, John sits down with Pat Barrett. Pat is the lead vocalist of the band Housefires, and co-writer of the song, “Good Good Father.” He is the debut artist on Chris Tomlin’s Label, Boyer & Bow, and released a self-titled solo album on July 20th of this year.
“I found such energy and hope realizing that I can contribute. I get the opportunity to contribute to the conversation of how we talk about God, and why this message even matters and that it can change our lives, and the way we love each other.”
John and Pat discuss the backstory of the award-winning song, “Good Good Father.” The song has won multiple awards, including “Song of the Year” at the GMA Dove Awards. Chris Tomlin and Pat also co-wrote a children’s book of the same name, which has currently sold almost 200,000 copies.
Pat has years of experience writing, singing, and leading in the worship community. John and Pat discuss worship music, and give unique perspective to the transformational value that can be found in worship. While the primary purpose of worship is to bring us into the presence of God, introspective worship can help us take a look at our own hearts. As we allow ourselves to become closer to the heart of God, it will affect all areas of our lives.
“In my songwriting process, I’ve tried to be sensitive and awake to the things that inspire me... I try to follow that feeling, and not force myself to put a song in a certain framework or mold… Become a disciple of the things that move you.”
Pat and John give helpful tips and techniques to assist songwriters in all genres. Becoming more aware of our surroundings, and the things that move us, can lead to our creation of music that will inspire the same feeling in others.
If you haven’t already, check out Pat Barrett’s EP on iTunes!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pat-barrett-ep/1392775335
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Pat Barrett - 1:28
- Story Behind “Good Good Father”- 5:45
- Current Work and Community- 13:12
- Pat’s Motivations for Writing - 24:40
- Pat’s Songwriting Process- 29:48
- Advice to Songwriters - 36:32
- Wrap Up - 39:12
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“My biggest thing, since I was a kid, has been authenticity. I think you can write a song that means something to just you, and that, most of the time, will end up relating to most people. They might not have lived that story, but they can relate it to something in their own life. ”
In this episode, John sits down with Grammy-nominated artist, Rhett Walker. Rhett is a down-to-earth family man, who grew up as a preacher’s kid in South Carolina. While he was raised in church, Rhett shares about his personal journey of recognizing the need to find Jesus for himself. As a worship leader, songwriter, and touring artist, Rhett has a well-rounded experience in music.
“So many times with music… we spend a lot of time adding things, and not sharing the space that a song actually needs… It’s important to be authentic in how we play the songs.”
Rhett formed the Rhett Walker Band in 2011, after moving to Nashville to pursue his passion for music. In 2012 his song, “When Mercy Found Me,” was nominated for Best Contemporary Christian Music Song. Throughout this episode, Rhett gives practical and profound advice in regards to songwriting and musicianship. The underlying message is authenticity, being true to who you are, and letting that resonate in the music that you create.
“Don’t just try to write pretty words… Don’t say something cliche just because it sounds cool… It might be just one song out of a hundred that has success, but that one out of a hundred will be the most ‘you’ song, that only you could write.”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Rhett Walker - 0:39
- Rhett’s Early Influences- 3:36
- Rhett’s Start with Music- 7:53
- “When Mercy Found Me”- 15:28
- Upcoming Music Release- 22:12
- Rhett’s Songwriting Process- 26:30
- Rhett’s Music Team- 31:00
- Advice for Aspiring Songwriters- 36:40
- How to Connect with Rhett- 39:02
- Wrap Up - 40:14
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“There’s a difference between a dream and a fantasy. A dream is something you’re willing to take some steps towards... you just cannot help but go hard after it.”
In episode 76, John tackles the burning question on the mind of nearly every songwriter who desires to reach a larger audience in the music realm. John gives a brief background of his own journey with songwriting, publishing, and career with Integrity music.
“Do something to further your craft. Anything, Even a small thing is better than living in a fantasy world waiting for someone to come and do this for you… If this is a true passion in your life, you’ll be willing to do something about it.”
John discusses the tools we have to spread our message that are right in our hand. So many times we overcomplicate the idea of sharing our music. When we do our part to get our music out there, opportunities are created for others to hear our message and for others, including publishers, to take note. John also shares meaningful statistics that cut down the notion that we have to wait for a publisher, in order to be successful in the music industry.
“You have, in the palm of you hand, the most overlooked publishing mechanism in the world... We need to lose the excuses of needing the right people… build up your craft so that they’ll be chasing you… it’s an old mindset to think that someone is going to ‘discover’ you. ”
John shares three fundamental keys for songwriting success, as given by Ralph Murphy from ASCAP. These simple keys, that are easily implemented will increase the quality and power of your songs.
Creating phenomenal songs, and utilizing the power you hold right in your hand, will help secure your platform in the music community.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // John Chisum - 1:35
- The Nagging Question- Am I Good Enough to Be a Songwriter?- 12:30
- A Short History of John’s Publishing Career- 17:40
- Utilizing Technology to Share Your Craft- 20:20
- Starting Where You Are- 37:01
- Three Principles to Songwriting Success- 47:29
- Wrap Up - 55:45
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Let the excellence of your work be your protest”
In episode 75, John sits down with veteran songwriter, author, and Bible scholar, Michael Card. Michael has recorded over 37 albums, authored over 27 books, hosted a radio program, and written for a wide range of magazines. While he has penned such favorites as “El Shaddai”, “Love Crucified Arose”, and “Immanuel,” He never imagined writing over 19 #1 hits. The popularity of his work seemed a stark contrast to his goal in life, to simply and quietly teach the Bible.
“God uses suffering to save the world - that is what makes Christianity unique”
Michael is a graduate of Western Kentucky University, where he earned his bachelor’s and Master’s degrees in biblical studies. Michael has also received honorary PhD’s in music and Christian education from Whitfield Seminary and Philadelphia Biblical University.
Although music provided him the opportunity to share insight gained through extensive research, writing songs alone limited what he felt called to share. Card would frequently agonize over having to condense the vast depth and richness of scripture into a three-minute song. And so he fell, quite naturally, into the field of book writing where he has garnered numerous awards.
“God’s presence is more important than His provision”
We hope that this episode inspires you to constantly weave theology throughout your songwriting. Over the years, Michael has continuously pointed people back to Jesus and the Bible with his deep lyrics and meaningful thoughts. We are called, not just to be songwriters, but to share the gospel with all nations, not just with our songs, but with our lives.
“Music is water that you was people’s feet with”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Michael Card - 0:40
- How Michael Got His Start - 3:30
- Being a Songwriter and Academic Scholar - 8:55
- Let the Excellence of Your Work Be Your Protest - 11:30
- How to Translate Your Pain without Causing More - 18:58
- The Difference Between Complaining and Lamenting - 25:02
- Understanding Psalm 73 - 28:45
- A Deeper Look at the Presence of God - 32:20
- The Pauline Revelation - 39:42
- How Do We Separate Spirit, Soul, and Body? - 45:21
- Great Songwriters are Readers - 50:00
- Michael’s New Book - “Hesed” - 57:16
- Engaging Imagination with Your Words - 59:30
- What’s Going in Michael’s World Now - 1:13:32
- Wrap Up and Takeaways - 1:18:20
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“This isn’t about what I want to say or what I think, the song has to be about what people want to hear”
In Episode 74, John Chisum sits down with veteran songwriter, Sue C. Smith. Sue has written 15 #1 songs, including "Mourning Into Dancing" (The Bowlings) in March 2017, and "I Choose Christ" (Karen Peck and New River) in July 2017. In 2017 she was named Absolutely Gospel Music Songwriter of the Year. She is deeply involved in writing music for the church and for church choirs, having written over 80 musicals which are presented in churches around the world.
“As a songwriter, you have to have the courage to persist with an idea until you find the person that God wants you to write it with”
Sue is a five-time Dove award winning songwriter who has had cuts by Avalon, Jason Crabb, The Oak Ridge Boys, The Crabb Family, Sandi Patty, Guy Penrod, Travis Cottrell, Mark Harris, Larnelle Harris, Steve Green, Janet Paschal, Pure NRG, Triumphant Quartet, Ernie Haase and Signature Sound, Brian Free and Assurance, The Hoppers, and many others. Sue shares her insight into the process of songwriting and gives practical tips that will help you become the songwriter you were always meant to be.
“If we’re going to worship God for all of eternity, we’re going to be writing new songs to sing, so there will be new things to say and new ways to say it”
She and her late husband, John, founded The Write About Jesus Workshop in 2000 and have hosted it each year since then. The workshop has been the launch pad for the songwriting of dozens of fresh voices in Christian music. Write About jesus is also actively engaged in encouraging and training songwriters around the world, and Sue has made visits to Myanmar, India and Uganda in that effort.
To find out more about Sue, visit www.suecsmithsongwriter.com and www.writeaboutjesus.com
Also, here’s a link to the Youtube Video that John mentions in the episode of a song written at the “Write About Jesus” Conference by two 12 year old boys - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojdzjsF37FI
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Sue C. Smith - 2:10
- Sue’s Journey Into Songwriting - 10:08
- 15 Number One Songs and 93 Musicals - 18:22
- The Challenge of Writing a “New” Idea - 22:24
- The Vulnerability and Benefits of Co-Writing - 25:02
- Bettering Your Craft As a Songwriter - 32:15
- Utilizing the Power of Language in Your Songwriting - 43:15
- How Sue Approaches the Process of Songwring - 51:22
- Wrap Up - 61:15
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“It can be beautiful music, but without the presence of God, there’s no distinction”
In this week’s episode, Chisum sits down with Jonathan Brown, President of Integrity Music at their offices in the Cool Springs area of Franklin, TN. Jonathan Brown, known as “JB,” is a 25-year music industry veteran who began his career at Word Records in the U.K. before taking roles with Furious Records and Fierce Distribution where he was part of the teams responsible for building and establishing global platforms for artists like Delirous?.
“Releasing the indigenous worship of nations is something that’s eternal”
JB is a focused, passionate and highly energized marketing creative with a heart to curate and amplify worship songs and artistry. His heart’s desire is to facilitate the creation of highways throughout the world on which songs can travel beyond borders and language barriers. JB is leading Integrity Music into the future and God is doing amazing things through his leadership and the people of Integrity Music.
“If we want to go deeper into the lyrical content of who God is, there are expressions in other parts of the world that can give more than just one expression coming from where we live”
If you’re a christian songwriter looking to get your songs heard, Integrity has some amazing resources crafted with you in mind. Check out the new SongShare platform and much more at www.integirtymusic.com and www.weareworship.com.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Jonathan Brown - 1:30
- Jonathan’s Background - 4:05
- The Global Sound of Worship - 9:02
- Cultural Expressions of Worship across the World - 13:22
- The New Vision of Integrity Music - 17:28
- How the Vision Will Play Out in Music - 22:42
- An Opportunity for Unsigned Songwriters - 26:11
- The Balance of Spirit and Commerce - 31:15
- What JB is Excited About at Integrity - 32:20
- Jonathan’s Advice to Aspiring Songwriters - 34:45
- Wrap Up - 40:00
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Allow time for a discovery period at the beginning of a co-write”
You rarely see a song these days with just one writer. Especially in Christian music and the world of corporate worship. In Episode 72, John goes in depth into the process of co-writing, what it looks like in Nashville, and how you can use it to write better songs.
“Don’t go into a writing room empty-handed. Walk in with at least 6-10 ideas of what you hope to write”
There are several things that are important to know before going into a writing room with others. You have to realize that, just like relationships, there are going to be writers that you just “click” with, and others that you don’t. It’s more of a process of becoming self-aware to realize what type of writer you are, and the group dynamics of the co-write.
“Take turns sharing ideas and starting on the one that feels most agreeable”
If you’ve been struggling to write songs on your own, we strongly urge you to start co-writing. Community is a part of our DNA here at NCS and we know that in order to write better songs, we need each other for feedback and collaboration.
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Write what you know. Be as honest as you can and use your experience. Don’t try to be someone else.”
In episode 71, John Chisum sits down to chat all things artistry and songwriting with Josh Wilson. This Texas-native started playing piano at nine years old, then took up guitar and drums when he was 10. From there, he never looked back. During his high school years, he continued to hone his musicianship, and eventually he fell in love with songwriting at Nashville’s Belmont University. A self-described introvert with an aversion to the spotlight, Wilson never dreamed he’d be the one behind the mic, but God had other plans.
“There’s so much to be thankful for. Even in the middle of hard times”
Wilson signed his latest record deal with Black River Christian in 2017, and in 2018, released his first single, “Dream Small,” with the new label. As a multi-instrumentalist and live-looping enthusiast, he’s been known to play and record as many as 20 instruments on stage at any given time.
“You have a voice and experience that no one else does, so you write from there and be honest”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Josh Wilson - 0:38
- How Josh Got His Start in Music - 4:28
- Applying University Training in the Music Biz - 6:35
- Touring with World-Renowned Artists Straight Out of College - 9:25
- Don’t Give Up After One Bad Night - 13:15
- NCS Bootcamp Opportunity - 17:20
- Life Beyond Music for Josh - 19:14
- Josh’s New Single “Dream Small” - 26:32
- A Message to Aspiring Songwriters - 34:21
- Wrap Up - 38:39
Check out Josh’s new single “Dream Small” available wherever you get your music!
You can watch the Dream Small interview with Josh’s wife, Becca here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEONyNaLf8M
Also, head over to www.joshwilsonmusic.com to stay connected to all that Josh is doing and to connect with him on social media.
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“When we are writing songs that connect people to God, part of that process is pushing fear out of the way”
In episode 70, John sits down with Worship Leader and Songwriter, Chris McClarney. Chris grew up in the church as the son of a Youth Pastor and met Jesus at a very young age. When he was 14, he began leading worship for a small group, which led to full-time ministry in local churches and inner-city ministries across Nashville.
“My personal style of leading worship is seeking moments, as opposed to just playing songs really well”
Chris’ powerful worship anthem “Your Love Never Fails” has become one of the most popular songs in America’s churches as reported in the Top 25 of CCLI and a #1 song on the Billboard Christian Chart. Chris then partnered with Jesus Culture Music and recorded his debut live album “Everything and Nothing Less.” This powerful live album featured songs recorded live at the 2015 Jesus Culture Sacramento Conference.
“I write a lot of bad songs, but every now and then, I write a song that people like”
Since that time, Chris has released more music and just released his new album titled “Breakthrough.” He currently serves as Worship Pastor at Church of the City in Franklin, TN while touring with Jesus Culture and others to lead the world in Worship through powerful songs and intentional moments.
Find out more about Chris and download his new album at https://chrismcclarneymusic.com/
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Chris McClarney - 2:12
- Hearing Ten Thousand People Sing Your Songs - 6:45
- Chris’ Start as a Worship Leader - 8:50
- How Chris Stays Grounded - 13:38
- The Weight of the Call - 20:46
- Spontaneity in Worship - 23:32
- Removing the Barriers of Comparison - 26:50
- The Vision behind the New Record “Breakthrough” - 31:10
- Chris’ Songwriting Process - 36:55
- Learning From Your Mistakes and Train Wrecks - 43:45
- Wrap Up - 48:02
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Write from your heart because we all have a story that we can tell”
In episode 69, John Chisum sits down with songwriter, worship leader, actor, and composer, Jesse Pruett. Jesse is currently on staff as Worship Arts Pastor in Lake Havasu City, Arizona and when he’s not there, he’s rubbing shoulders with some of the biggest names in the Film and TV industry through acting, film scoring, and writing songs for Film and Television.
The amazing part about this episode is Jesse’s passion for God and the local church. It’s evident that, above all of the success he’s had so far, his heart is intensely set on leading people to Jesus as well as his family and relationships.
“My heart right now is really in worship, in ministry, and just leading people to Jesus. So, when I go do films and things like that, I’m already preparing my heart for ministry and for God to speak”
As songwriters, it’s easy for us to get fixated on success. We want to write the best songs that we can and we’re constantly striving to perfect our craft and dig deeper into the gift that we’ve been given. While it is our role to steward the gift, our “success” is not up to us.
Jesse talks about the doors that God has opened in his career and it’s been more of a matter of him being obedient to take those opportunities and do them as unto the Lord. Jesse’s success is not something he could have formulated on his own, and by the end of this episode you will see Jesse’s heart for ministry is his driving force.
“Write from your heart because we all have a story that we can tell”
We hope that Jesse’s story inspires you to become the songwriter that you were meant to be. Be sure to go back into the Song Revolution Podcast archives and listen to all of the amazing episodes that we have to offer.
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Jesse Pruett - 0:40
- Jesse’s Major Acting Roles - 7:20
- Film Scoring and Music in Film - 11:05
- Writing for Film and Television - 16:00
- Staying Plugged into the Local Church and Writing Songs for the World - 21:35
- Jesse’s New Worship Record “Journey” - 25:28
- What Motivates Jesse to Keep Writing and Stay Creative - 29:45
- Jesse’s Songwriting Process - 33:00
- Family Life and Background - 38:16
- Wrap Up - 40:42
It’s not too late to register for the NCS Weekend Intensive coming up this month! Reserve your spot today, book your trip to Nashville, and become the songwriter that you were born to be!
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/product/ncs-weekend-intensive-june-21-23/
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“This whole art endeavor that we’re involved with as songwriters is an amazing combination of your whole life. Bring all that you are to your songs”
In episode 68, John wraps up a 5 part series on “Writing Hit Hooks” with one of the most important, yet difficult to master keys to songwriting. Simplicity is found in every great song or hook. John shares multiple examples of famous songs that have some of the simplest and memorable hooks of all time. Often times, as songwriters we tend to overcomplicate our thoughts and try to fit 20 ideas into one song. John’s insight on simplicity in this episode with transform the way you think about writing songs and, if you apply them, will take you from being a good songwriter to becoming a great one.
“A great idea + a great hook + a great melody = a GREAT song”
This entire series will equip you with everything you need to write great hooks in your songs. At the core of songwriting, a great idea is the essence of what makes a song great. It’s nearly impossible to write great hooks without first having a great idea. Add in a great melody and you have all of the ingredients necessary to having a great song.
“If you’re struggling with hooks, you probably haven’t spent enough time developing the idea first”
As Christian songwriters, our goal is to effectively communicate the truth of God’s word in our songs. If we learn how to master the art of simplicity, our songs will connect in a much greater way. It’s not a matter of watering down your content or not being deep, rather it’s about learning to communicate a deep idea in the most effective way to the greatest number of people.
“The greatest songs share one thing - Simplicity”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // John Chisum - 1:26
- Writing HIt Hooks Part 5: Simplicity - 7:25
- The Myth about Tips, Tricks, and Hacks - 9:28
- Equation for Songwriting Success - 12:15
- Capturing Better Ideas and Becoming a Better Lyricist - 19:50
- Recapping Parts 1-4 - 25:12
- The Key to Simplicity - 33:45
- Examples of Simplicity in Modern Christian Music - 37:00
- Becoming an Editor - 40:30
- Wrap Up - 43:58
It’s not too late to register for the NCS Weekend Intensive coming up this month! Reserve your spot today, book your trip to Nashville, and become the songwriter that you were born to be!
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/product/ncs-weekend-intensive-june-21-23/
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“We are an online platform that connects creators with investors as a way of helping them raise money...”
In episode 67, John chats with Antony Bruno from Royalty Exchange. If there are two main areas that can be difficult for songwriters to navigate and understand, it’s royalties and finances. How do you make money as a songwriter? How do you keep everything organized so that you’re actually getting paid for the songs you write? Antony has a long history in the music business and gives some insight into what Royalty Exchange does to help songwriters, and what you can do to insure you get paid for the songs you create during your career.
“If the stock market crashes, the revenue created by royalties is not affected by that”
Here’s a brief overview from their website:
Artists turn to Royalty Exchange to raise money and take control of their financial future. We connect them with private investors through the world’s first online marketplace for buying and selling royalties. Creators love us because we give them a powerful new way to fund their career. Investors love us because we help them generate income that's hard to beat. And our commitment to transparency and honesty ensures value for all.”
“You can make more money in different ways with song royalties now than you could in the past”
If you’d like to learn more and potentially work with Royalty Exchange, visit their website for more information - www.royaltyexchange.com
“As a creator, you need to allow yourself the ability to say NO. Having your finances in order allows you to say NO to things”
Also be sure to check out John’s article below about his experience with Royalty Exchange in the early days of NCS.
“There’s a misconception that a lot of the motivation to leverage or sell royalties is out of some kind of desperation”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction // Antony Bruno of Royalty Exchange - 0:33
- Antony Bruno’s background in the Music Industry - 3:15
- What is Royalty Exchange? - 10:28
- John’s Experience with Royalty Exchange - 12:15
- The Role of Investors in Royalty Exchange - 15:10
- Royalty Exchange’s Position in the Music Business - 23:02
- Common Misconceptions around Leveraging or Selling Royalties - 27:06
- Financial Freedom and Creativity - 30:35
- What You Need to Work With Royalty Exchange - 35:15
- Breaking Down the Process - 39:12
- Wrap Up - 43:15
Read more about John’s experience with Royalty Exchange in this detailed article that he wrote for them titled, “Lessons From A Songwriter: Emotional Attachment vs. Financial Opportunity”
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Most often, the Holy Spirit gives inspiration that you can then take and, with the other gifts, talents, and tools that you have, craft it in a way the entire world can embrace”
In episode 66, John dives back into writing hit hooks. This is the 4th episode in this series and today, we’re talking about “Universality”.
“The quality of your song will never exceed the quality of your hook”
What does it mean to be “universal”? When you’re writing a hook, it’s important to keep the listener in mind. The idea of universality in songwriting is simply identifying key areas that are universally felt, known, or believed in order to connect with people on a deeper and more common level.
Think about your favorite song. There is a good chance that it’s tied to a memory, and emotion, or something you were going through at that time in your life. Our goal as christian songwriters should always be to reveal truth in a new and fresh way - BUT we have to remember to be universally minded, or our songs won’t connect.
“That greatest hooks capture something that universally felt, known, or believed”
NCS offers this podcast as a free resource, as well as many other videos, trainings, emails, and articles that you can take advantage of today.
If you’re ready to invest in your songwriting to take it to the next level, we also offer our flagship 8 week bootcamp and NCS Membership to equip you even more.
“The people that break out choose not to rewrite the same phrases again and again”
Don’t forget to register now and reserve your spot at our NCS Weekend Intensive coming in June 2018. You can get all of the information and join some of the best in Nashville as you learn valuable tips and insights to become the songwriter you were meant to be
https://nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/product/ncs-weekend-intensive-june-21-23/
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction - 1:18
- Upcoming Podcast Guests and Interviews - 5:10
- What’s Missing in a Songwriter’s Life - 11:05
- The Importance of a Quality Hook - 14:40
- Recap on Emotion in Writing Hooks - 15:45
- Universality - What it Means - 18:00
- Writing Things that are NEW - 23:02
- Feelings Can Be Universal - 30:15
- Reasons Songs Don’t Translate - 37:22
- Using Alliteration in Your Hooks - 39:15
- Benefits of NCS Bootcamp and Membership - 42:10
- Wrap Up - 46:00
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“It’s the Lord that does the work. You are only responsible for being a child of God”
In episode 65, John sits down with Christian Artist and Songwriter, Dara Maclean. Dara’s debut album You Got My Attention is earning her the attention of many. Growing up in a ministry focused family, leading worship was something that was almost inevitable for Dara. "I grew up singing, dancing and acting, and it's been in the church world. Music has always equaled ministry to me. Ministering to the broken, unloved and discouraged and ultimately showing people God's better way is what's in my heart. It's how I'm wired."
“The Lord just arrested my heart for rescue”
From songwriting to singing on stage in front of thousands, Dara has found her identity in something much deeper than just being a performer. In this episode, she shares her heart for ministry, writing, and how she’s found her identity as a child of God, even in the midst of the storm.
“You need to stop praying away storms. You need to learn how to find peace in the middle of the storm”
Connect with Dara on instagram and be sure to keep an eye for a new project soon!
“In my heart I play the cello… never touched it in my life”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction - 1:18
- What’s new with Dara Maclean - 3:40
- Dara’s Songwriting Story - 5:40
- Missions and Partners - 8:38
- Finding Identity as an Artist - 13:55
- Finding Peace in the Storm - 19:15
- Dara’s Songwriting Process - 22:45
- Wrap Up - 27:05
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
“Music reaches beyond the thinking of the mind and goes straight into the heart and soul level”
In this week’s episode, we’re continuing our series on “Writing HIt Hooks.” Today, we’re talking all about emotion. What does a specific song make you feel? If you’re like me, as soon as you hear a song you immediately go back to a memory or a time when you felt something similar. Songs have the power to speak deeply to us. We are emotional beings and the power of song goes much deeper than just a catchy beat or a smooth sound. Learning how to evoke emotion in your songwriting is the only way to write those hit hooks you’ve been trying to write.
“What kind of atmosphere am I creating for people as I present this song?”
Become a student of the songs you love. Start to identify the thoughts and feelings that a certain evokes in you. Once you identify these, work to replicate those in your songwriting. Nothing will connect someone to your song more deeply than emotion.
“Songwriting is about asking better questions”
There is so much going on at NCS and we want YOU to be a part! Don’t miss our NCS Weekend Intensive coming up this Summer in Nashville. This is a time where we go deep and share valuable insights from masters of the craft, as well as a very intimate environment for you learn what you need to take your songwriting to the next level. Spots are filling up fast! Don’t miss out on this amazing weekend.
“Without a GREAT idea, you’ll never have a GREAT song”
Some topics we talk about in this episode:
- Introduction - 1:20
- NCS Weekend Intensive - 4:30
- 5 Tips for Writing Hit Hooks - 8:45
- The Importance of Emotion and Feeling in Songs - 11:45
- Examples of Song Emotion - 16:45
- Using Emotion to Hook the Listener - 22:22
- Wrap Up - 27:05
How to get involved
- Join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook and continue the discussion! https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/
- Check out all of the resources for you to become the songwriter you were meant to be at www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
If you liked this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a quick review on iTunes. It would mean the world to hear your feedback and we’d love for you to help us spread the word!
This week, we went back into the archives to share a past episode with you.
Here's the thing... Each of these episodes have SO MUCH GOLD in them that it's hard to digest it all in one listen. So, today we're jumping back to our conversation with the amazing Audrey Assad.
Audrey Assad is, by her own admission, a very opinionated person.
Of Middle Eastern descent, yet raised in a small cult-like expression of the Plymouth Brethren denomination in New Jersey, she was not allowed to sing or read Scriptures in front of males and suffered tremendous personal repression as a child. Ironically, the very things she endured became the fuel of her deeply layered artistry that blends ancient-future influences into her uniquely beautiful music.
Her debut album The House You’re Building (2010) was named Christian Album of the Year on Amazon.com and the Christian Breakthrough Album of the Year on iTunes and she has worked and toured with other great CCM artists such as Chris Tomlin, Tenth Avenue North, Matt Maher, and Jars of Clay.
In this episode, John Chisum and Audrey discuss the role of pain in art, literary influences in lyric writing, how the historic Christian traditions of beauty and literature are sometimes lost on the evangelical church, as well as:
- How she came to Nashville with the help of Mike Donehy, lead singer of the band Tenth Avenue North
- Being who you are as a singer-songwriter and how to use “discovery tools” like Spotify to build your own following
- What it means to walk away from the “established” Christian music industry over artistic control and financial accountability
- Writing religious music for the people who would never buy it or want to listen to “Christian” music
- The role of catharsis and lament in art and how pain shapes our worship
- Her “non-Christian” band called Levv and her foray into EDM
- Contextualizing pain and how to redeem it in songwriting… “You can’t heal from a wound that you don’t know is there…”
- Why she always writes the songs that she needs first in order to “preach the Gospel to herself” every day
- The literary influences in her writing such as Jane Austen, Tolstoy, Rohr, Merton, John Donne, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Madeleine L’Engle, and Mother Teresa
- Her musical influences from 70’s folk/rock music, despite the strictures of the Plymouth Brethren beliefs
- How to resource yourself through reading, imagination, and creativity to avoid rehashing Christian music from a decade ago
- Approaching hooks with simplicity
- How she wrote the song Restless from her first album, still one of her most popular songs
- Setting poems to music
- Her favorite exercises to add creativity and uniqueness to your music and to break out of ruts by intentional disruption
You can check out Audrey and her music at audreyassad.com, on Instagram @audreyassad, Twitter @audreyassad, and her EDM band Levv at Levvmusic.com and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/LEVVmusic/
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/?fref=nf
Not only has she been nominated for five Grammy® Awards, one Emmy®, and won three Doves, but singer, songwriter, recording artist, author, and actress Bonnie Keen is one of the most-loved talents in Nashville. One-third of the classic CCM trio First Call with Marty McCall and Melody Tunney, Bonnie began her Christian music career when her neighbor, Mike Blanton, asked her to sing backing vocals for a young artist she’d never heard of named Amy Grant. It was on those first tours with Amy that Bonnie’s own heart for expressing her devotion to Christ was discovered, starting her down the path of becoming one of CCM’s leading vocalists and performers, including fourteen studio recordings with First Call alone.
Bonnie has performed on stages throughout the world including The Grammy Awards, Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show, and on tours with First Call, Amy Grant, Sandi Patty, and BeBe and CeCe Winans to name but a few. She performs with the Nashville Shakespeare Theatre and travels with Windborne Music’s “Tribute to the Music of Michael Jackson” performing most recently with the Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra. Theatrical highlights include the roles of Stephanie “To Kill A Mockingbird, The Witch “Into The Woods” Grace in “Cinderella” with the Nashville Symphony, Petie Quince (The Nashville Shakespeare Festival), Tiny “Comedy of Errors”, Maud/Pinky in “Pride’s Crossing” (Lipscomb University), Mama Legend “Scarecrows” (Playhouse Nashville), Mrs. Whitehead in “Man and Superman” and Gingy in “Love, Loss and What I Wore”.
She has recorded three solo projects and authored three books with Harvest House Publishers. Her story graced the covers of Today’s Christian Woman and Virtue magazine. Bonnie’s vocals can be heard on commercials for Pepsi, Dodge Trucks, Fritos, Wrigleys Gum and Coke, work with Garth Brooks, Steve Winwood, Barry Manilow and Michael Crawford. Bonnie is currently touring her two-woman musical co-written and performed with Nan Gurley called Women Who Dared to Believe. When she’s not on the road she performs with an Eagles revival band called The Eaglemaniacs and with Tim Akers and The Smoking Section, an R&B revival band in the Nashville area comprised of some of Nashville’s finest musicians and singers.
In this conversation with John Chisum, Bonnie reveals her deep heart for truth, for a return to the real Gospel, and some of her writing inspirations. She shares some “Keen insights” on songwriting and encourages younger generations to find their own voice and make their contribution to Gospel music and the Kingdom of God as only they can. Anyone wanting more insight into this amazing artist will find it here, as well as aspiring songwriters seeking direction and keys for powerful productivity.
You can connect with Bonnie at bonniekeen.com.
For more information, connect with us at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com.
Why do some songs leave you flat while others stick in your head forever? What are the key ingredients in a song’s basic theme and “hook” that make it stay with you days, even years, after you’ve heard it for the first time?
In Part 2 of the Writing Hit Hooks series, industry leader John Chisum shares some of the most important ways to make your song stick with listeners no matter what genre or style. If you’ve been struggling to connect with listeners and be recognized as the songwriter you long to be, don’t miss these insightful tips for making your songs and song hooks memorable like you may never have done before.
For more information visit us at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
When tenth-graders Chris Rohman and Mark Graalman started making music together in their parents’ basement in a small Ohio town, they could not have imagined that they would one day look back after 22 years of touring to see multiple industry award nominations and wins, 24 radio hits, over 750,000 albums sold, and thousands of loyal fans who’ve followed their ministry from the beginning to this day.
With the solid message of the Gospel and of our identity in Christ still intact after over two decades, the band is gearing up for a 16-city tour promoting their new album, “Changed,” due out later this month. Containing all new songs co-written with new lead singer, Dustin Lolli, the album marks some significant changes in approach and tone that will be both familiar and fresh to Sanctus fans.
In this episode, John Chisum sits down with Mark and Dustin to discuss not only the origins of the band’s often mispronounced name, but life on the road and the challenges of integrating a new lead singer. Lolli admits there were “high highs and low lows” as he was joining the group and that they almost ended their ministry not so long ago during one of the lowest points. Bouncing back with an even stronger resolve through writing and producing “Changed” is the continuation of a ministry and message that has become known and loved as Sanctus Real.
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Do you ever wonder how hit songs are written? You’ve probably heard of “formula songwriting” and maybe even learned about song form, hooks, and melody writing. But what does it take to write a truly great song?
In this episode, music industry veteran John Chisum takes you to a deeper understanding of the key equation that professional songwriters use time and time again to write songs that consistently stand out among a million others to be the songs you hear on the radio or sung in churches worldwide.
Find critical new principles to ramp up your songwriting game with this informative and inspirational episode that will change the way you look at songs forever.
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Katie Gustafson Hill is that rare and exquisite blend of musician, singer-songwriter, and healer. Suffering an eating disorder as a child, Katie knows the long road of recovery and seeks to help others, especially women, find their true selves and greater power through her counseling practice in Nashville.
Katie comes from a strong Christian family that is quite musical. Her Dad, Gerrit Gustafson, helped co-found Integrity Music and that legacy continues in Katie as she writes and performs her own songs. Married to a prominent music publisher, Katie is no stranger to the glamor of the music business or to the emotional struggles that go with it. Her deep commitment to freeing others from perfection and what she calls “the inner critic” flows through everything she does.
In this episode, John Chisum sits down with Katie to discuss the need for more openness for all creative types to wrestle down their emotional demons and to embrace their own healing journeys. She believes that greater creativity hides behind the lies of religion. Healing came to her as she let go of the false impressions of God and the church and came to genuinely know Christ in one of her lowest periods, embracing His love for her like never before.
Offering solution based therapy and coaching, Katie uses an innovative modality called brainspotting that bypasses talk therapy in order to release trapped emotions in the brain. If you’re interested in Katie’s music or her counseling practice, visit her at katiegustafsoncounseling.com.
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Drakeford (Drake & Lucy-Jayne Lanier), embody the most romantic notion of today’s singer-songwriter lifestyle, though they would be the first to tell you that it has its challenges and drawbacks. Newlyweds who met on the mission field, the singing duo have grown accustomed to a nomadic lifestyle of coffee shops, universities, home concerts, and occasional church gigs as they share their own unique blend of folk-influenced pop rock music.
Though the couple will perform cover tunes when necessary (and extraordinarily well), their true heartbeat is in their originals penned together and performed with simple acoustic guitar (Drake on guitar and most lead vocals) with Lucy-Jayne providing solid backing vocals and the intermittent lead. Together they harmonize in perfect rhythm, even in tough near-rap melodic and lyrical passages that remind you of Ed Sheeran or Jason Mraz.
Drakeford ministers mostly in non-church settings such as bars, universities, and coffee houses because they believe their message is larger than the four walls of the sanctuary. They are dedicated to taking Jesus to the people they meet and get to sing to, even if their listeners are unaware of their faith-based leanings.
In this interview with John Chisum during NCS Power Week 2018, Drakeford opens up their hearts to share some of the joy and hardships of the singer-songwriter lifestyle and gives insights into their own songwriting process. They also share two of their most popular songs and show all who experience them the power of their love for God, each other, and their audience.
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Ask Don Moen what he does, and the answer might surprise you. He won’t say he’s a songwriter even though he’s written more than 100 songs. He won’t say he’s a worship leader even though he’s led worship on every continent but Antarctica and recorded numerous albums.
He won’t say he’s a businessman or producer even though he has produced and directed hundreds of successful projects. If you ask Don Moen why God put him on this planet, he’ll tell you, “To be an architect who designs products and events that help people experience God’s presence in a new and fresh way.” And in more than three decades of ministry, he’s had lots of opportunity to fulfill that purpose.
His discography reflects his passion to create resources for the church that lead people into an honest and intimate relationship with the Lord. In 2002, his peers recognized that lifelong commitment and presented him with the Ray DeVries Church Ministry Award.
Don has also received a Dove Award for his work on the musical “God With Us” and has received multiple Dove Award nominations for his songs, CDs and choral resources.
In addition to his writing and recording, Don makes time to tour domestically and abroad and has performed with artists such as Chris Tomlin, Twila Paris, Sara Groves and Paul Baloche to name a few. He also has served as worship leader for past National Day of Prayer events and as a music industry spokesperson, having been featured on Fox News, NPR and in USA Today.
Don is as popular overseas as he is at home in the U.S. His travels for concerts and seminars have taken him to Ghana, South Africa, Singapore, the Philippines, South Korea, Brazil, Canada, Australia, Great Britain, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Indonesia, Japan, Guatemala, Honduras, and elsewhere. Today, Don is President of Don Moen Productions in Nashville, Tennessee, where he resides with his wife Laura and five children.
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, Don Moen has joined John Chisum as part of The NCS Song Power Week 2018 to talk about his lengthy ministry and career and how God has touched millions through his life and music.
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Does God really “give” you songs? Is it possible to just “receive” your songs from God and not have to work on them anymore? What’s it like to “sing in the Spirit” and write “prophetic” songs?
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum interviews International House of Prayer (Kansas City) worship leader and songwriter, Jon Thurlow, as part of The NCS Song Power Week 2018. Jon shares honestly how difficult leading worship 24/7 can be on him and his team and the mundane aspects of staying “in the Spirit.”
This episode brings many great insights for your worship songwriting and helps you gain fresh understanding of how to refine the prophetic intimations God brings to you. John shares many great tools for you to use immediately in your songwriting to make them accessible for believers of any type and persuasion.
Jon Thurlow and his wife Kinsey live in Kansas City, Missouri, where they both serve on staff at the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC). IHOPKC is an evangelical missions organization that is committed to praying for the release of the fullness of God’s power and purpose in the earth. At the core of everything that goes on at the IHOPKC missions base is the Prayer Room, a place where we never cease worshiping the Lord and interceding for our world. In September of 1999, IHOPKC launched 24/7 worship and prayer which has continued to this day. Jon first came to IHOPKC in 2004 to attend Fire in the Night, a three-month nightwatch internship. After spending three months in the Prayer Room from midnight to 6am, he joined an IHOPKC “daytime” worship team. He now serves as a primary worship leader at IHOPKC, leading a team of singers and musicians in 6 two-hour sets per week.
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Ex-mainstream rocker Zach Williams knows that Jesus is the real chain breaker, but Zach himself has burst onto the airwaves as a bonafide hitmaker with over 17m Youtube views of his debut single Chain Breaker and over 11m views of the totally singable follow-up Old Church Choir and the tally for each is growing by the minute.
Williams knows the power of Christ. His own chains of addiction were broken as he surrendered to the love of Jesus. Now he has taken the passion he once had for pleasing crowds to pleasing Jesus as a devoted husband, father, worship leader, songwriter and artist. In Zach’s words, “I did the whole rock star thing for so long and I felt like I was always faking it, and now I really just want to be real with people. Please don’t wait another minute, make the decision today to follow Christ.”
Zach’s straightforward and gutsy music has already garnered him two Grammy® nominations and one win, a Billboard Music Award nomination, two Dove Awards for New Artist of the Year (2017), Pop/Contemporary Recorded Song of the Year, and the K-LOVE Fan Award “Breakout Single of the Year” for Chain Breaker.
In this episode, John Chisum catches up with Zach to chat about his music and the motivations behind it. Confirming the authenticity of the man making the hits, Zach shared freely of the struggles and the victories of his life and ministry, proving that he’s got a healthy perspective on the fleeting value of music business success versus the applause of man.
Zach Williams knows what he’s about and he’s unafraid to challenge anyone to surrender to Jesus in order to find the truest riches in life. While the accolades and awards accrue, Williams’ heart-leveled lyrics and infectious melodies continue to hit home with millions of listeners worldwide and we’re already anticipating what’s next for someone breaking chains and making waves with hit after hit.
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Cody Carnes is a lot more than “Mr. Kari Jobe.” Although he is married to one of the most popular worship artists of the day, Cody is emerging in his own power as a communicator, songwriter, and worship leader.
His new album “The Darker the Night/The Brighter the Morning” was produced with indie-pop producer Jeremy Lutito and has influences from Bon Iver, Coldplay, One Republic, and others. "I feel like there are a lot of people in the world like me that love the creative experience of seeing some of their favorite bands live and also love the spiritual experience of a worship night,” Carnes says. “I want to merge those two worlds together."
Allmusic.com’s Stephen Thomas Erlwine writes, “Carnes first started playing music as a child, and headed his first worship service as a teenager. Throughout his teens and early adulthood he played with a number of bands, including Hit the Ground Running and Crimson Soul. He later became part of Gateway Church, which led him to a key role in the associated band Gateway Worship. There, he met his eventual wife, Kari Jobe. The pair frequently co-wrote songs together, including "Let the Heavens Open" on her acclaimed album Majestic. Carnes and Jobe released an EP called All He Says I Am in 2014. They married that year, relocated to Nashville, and had a son in 2016.
Carnes signed with Capitol CMG in February 2017, releasing "The Cross Has the Final Word" shortly afterward. By May, Newsboys reunited to record their own version of "The Cross Has the Final Word," and by the end of the summer Carnes also released the singles "Hold It All," "Til the End of Time," and "What Freedom Feels Like." His full-length solo debut, The Darker the Night/The Brighter the Morning, appeared in September 2017.”
In this episode, John Chisum caught up with Cody while he was in Cincinnati on the multi-city WinterJam Tour with wife, Kari, Jobe, and many other great Christian artists. In this fun and often funny episode, Carnes reveals deep inspiration for songwriting and an even deeper commitment to Christ and His Kingdom. Listen in and gain songwriting inspiration and insights to put into your songwriting now.
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Music business executives have come and gone through the years, but no one has outlasted Centricity Music’s John Mays, the longest-standing A&R Director in Christian music. John’s career has spanned thirty years and he has been influential in the careers of artists such as Cindy Morgan, Point of Grace, Phillips, Craig & Dean, and many more. John is currently directing the musical development of successful artists such as Johnny Diaz, Jason Gray, and the award-winning Lauren Daigle. In this episode, John Chisum sits down with his long-time friend to discuss nicknames, Mexican food, work ethic, the state of the Christian music industry, and the amazing opportunities awaiting songwriters and artists in the future.
Check out more information and a full artist roster at www.centricitymusic.com and follow John on Twitter at @maysjp and on Instagram at @mayscast
Music business executives have come and gone through the years, but no one has outlasted Centricity Music’s John Mays, the longest-standing A&R Director in Christian music. John’s career has spanned thirty years and he has been influential in the careers of artists such as Cindy Morgan, Point of Grace, Phillips, Craig & Dean, and many more. John is currently directing the musical development of successful artists such as Johnny Diaz, Jason Gray, and the award-winning Lauren Daigle. In this episode, John Chisum sits down with his long-time friend to discuss nicknames, Mexican food, work ethic, the state of the Christian music industry, and the amazing opportunities awaiting songwriters and artists in the future.
Check out more information and a full artist roster at www.centricitymusic.com and follow John on Twitter at @maysjp and on Instagram at @mayscast
Jared Anderson is one of our favorite songwriters. An international worship leader for many years with New Life Fellowship (Colorado Springs) and the Desperation Band, Jared always brings a down-to-earth spiritual perspective on music, songwriting, ministry, and business.
This interview is from his day on NCS Song Power Week 2018, a week long Facebook Live event sponsored by Nashville Christian Songwriters that happened January 22-27, 2018, in which he and NCS Managing Partner, John Chisum, discussed a range of powerful songwriting topics touching on everything from song form to the ethics of “selling sunsets.”
You can reach Jared Anderson through jaredanderson.com and find out more information about Nashville Christian Songwriters at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com.
Buddy Greene: Virtuoso Harmonica, Gaither Sideman, and Co-Writer of “Mary, Did You Know”
Over the last 30 years, Buddy Greene has performed across America, made numerous trips abroad, and established himself as a predominantly independent recording artist. In 1991 he won the Gospel Music Association’s Dove award for Best Country Album, and has received 9 other Dove award nominations. Through his long association with the Gaithers, he has become a favorite gospel performer, often appearing on the Gaither’s popular Homecoming video series, and recently featured in a Best of Buddy Greene DVD retrospective.
Buddy has also made his mark as a songwriter. Besides the many self-penned songs of his own recordings, he co-wrote (along with Mark Lowry) the modern Christmas classic “Mary, Did You Know,” recorded by a host of major artists, including Kathy Mattea, Kenny Rogers and Wynonna, Natalie Cole, Clay Aiken, CeeLo Green, Rascal Flatts, Mary J Blige, and Pentatonix. Other songs of Buddy’s covered by major artists include “Recovering Pharisee” by Del McCoury, “Fall Down, Children” by The Whites, and “He Is”, a number one for gospel artist Ashley Cleveland.
Throughout his career, Buddy has steadily advanced as a harmonica player. He has played on the recordings of many outstanding artists, including Jerry Reed, the Gaithers, Riders in the Sky, Charlie Peacock, Bela Fleck, The Ojays, Sara Groves, Keith and Kristyn Getty, Sandi Patty,
and Larnelle Harris, just to name a few. After hearing Buddy’s 2002 release “RUFUS”, legendary folk icon Doc Watson invited Buddy to join him onstage at the prestigious MerleFest roots music festival in 2003 and subsequent years. In 2009 he joined an auspicious lineup of Nashville
virtuosos to help jazz bass legend Charlie Haden celebrate his country roots in the Grammy nominated recording and video project Rambling Boy.
Other milestones in Buddy’s career include performing at numerous Billy Graham crusades, especially the 1992 New York Crusade before a crowd of 250,000 in Central Park, and his performance of the “William Tell Overture” at Carnegie Hall, captured live on a Bill Gaither
Homecoming video and subsequently posted on YouTube, has been viewed by millions.
In this episode, John Chisum sits down with his long-time friend to reminisce, talk about songwriting as part of Buddy’s amazing career, and to share some of the songs from Buddy’s newest recording “Looking Back” available now at buddygreene.com and soon at all major music outlets.
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So God has given you a song. You just sat down one day and it started flowing out, or, maybe you were driving in your car when suddenly this melody came to you, and, before you knew it, you had pulled out your cell phone and started recording a melody that you've never heard before and you are still trying to put lyrics to it.
Or perhaps you've been writing poetry since 5th grade and you have about 4,000 poems in seventeen notebooks and you wonder why God gave them to you. Is there a true call to write songs on my life or not, you ask. It’s hard to believe God would give you so many songs and have no plans to expose them to anyone else on the planet. But does that mean that your songs are destined for contemporary Christian radio?
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, veteran music industry professional John Chisum explores the truth behind the continuum of songwriting from devotional to commercial and helps listeners find where they might be on it. All points on the continuum are valid and good, but the function of songs vary from end to end.
Some important resource links Chisum shares in this episode are:
Three Ideas for Inspiring Creativity in Worship
Do Songs Really Matter That Much in the End?
ExperienceImmerse.com
Five Ways to Write Songs People Will Love - Worship Musician Magazine
The Myth of Inspiration - Gear Tech Recording Magazine
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Jon Thurlow is the living example of Psalm 45:1, “My heart overflows with a good theme; I address my verses to the king; my tongue is the pen of a ready writer.”
Jon and his wife Kinsey live in Kansas City, Missouri, where they both serve on staff at the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC). IHOPKC is an evangelical missions organization that is committed to praying for the release of the fullness of God’s power and purpose in the earth. At the core of everything that goes on at the IHOPKC missions base is the Prayer Room, a place where we never cease worshiping the Lord and interceding for our world.
Jon says, ‘In late 2005 I had been at IHOPKC for over a year, but was still struggling to write songs. Music and melodic ideas would sometimes come together, but the lyrics would never come! One night the Lord spoke clearly to my heart and said, “I want you to let go of any music or movies that don’t push your heart towards Me.”
In September of 1999, IHOPKC launched 24/7 worship and prayer which has continued to this day. Jon first came to IHOPKC in 2004 to attend Fire in the Night, a three-month NightWatch internship. After spending three months in the Prayer Room from midnight to 6am, he joined an IHOPKC “daytime” worship team. He now serves as a primary worship leader at IHOPKC, leading a team of singers and musicians in 6 two-hour sets per week.
In this episode, John Chisum and Thurlow talk all things worship, songwriting, and his new recording Different Story, Thurlow’s first Nashville-based recording produced by the legendary Brown Bannister (Amy Grant) and multi-talented Ben Shive (Laura Hackett Park, Brandon Heath, Bebo Norman, JJ Heller, Andrew Peterson.)
For all the latest information on Jon Thurlow, go to http://www.jonthurlow.com/, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or visit the official Different Story page at forerunnermusic.com/differentstory.
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Trevor Graves is an aspiring songwriter hoping to be heard in Nashville. His acoustic songs and sound are a blend of classic CCM with fresh influences a la John Mayer and Ed Sheeran. In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum highlights Trevor’s songs and sincere call to write for Jesus.
As a client of Nashville Christian Songwriters’ coaching program, Mastering the Art & Craft of Christian Songwriting, Trevor shares about his journey into commercial songwriting and the development of three songs during the show, which he also performs. Listeners will immediately recognize his talent and the quality of his work.
Songwriters looking for inspiration and many nuggets about the craft of songwriting won’t be disappointed in this episode as they follow the development of a very talented and developing songwriter, Trevor Graves.
David Baroni is one of those rare gifts to the Body of Christ as a songwriter, worship leader, and teacher. One of his early CCM hits “Soldiers of the Light” (Andrus, Blackwood, and Company) helped blaze the trail of pop Christian music. With over 200 songs on CCLI (and counting), his impact on the field of worship is perhaps crowned with the modern hymn “O Mighty Cross” (Baroni/Chisum), as well as dozens of songs recorded by Integrity Music and his own Kingdomsongs Music.
In this episode, David and John Chisum sit down at the keyboard to talk about “flowing in the Spirit” as a songwriter and even demonstrate an impromptu co-write during the show. David’s encouraging heart and insights will refresh and inspire you in your own songwriting to new levels of trust and “flowing.”
You can reach David at david@davidbaroni.com and follow him on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Youtube.
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If Brandon Heath could offer a word of advice about how to navigate a well-lived life, he would sum it up in three words: faith, hope and love. These tenants of the Christian faith have provided an unshakable foundation for his own journey with Jesus through the years, and they continue to be the three virtues he claims in times of both joy and struggle. For Heath, it’s simply “instruction for a good life.” This trifecta of wisdom converges on his sixth studio project, Faith Hope Love Repeat (Provident Label Group), an album that fuses his signature pop sensibilities with his storytelling gifts.
A Nashville native, Heath quickly won the hearts of listeners when he released his major label debut in 2006. With four No.1 singles to his credit, including the RIAA Platinum-certified “Give Me Your Eyes,” the singer has garnered five GRAMMY® nominations, an American Music Award nod and an Emmy Award. In addition, he’s earned eight Dove Awards, including two consecutive Male Vocalist honors (2009, 2010) and a win for Song of the Year (“Give Me Your Eyes”). He’s also been recognized as a top lyricist in his field with numerous songwriting accolades, including being named BMI’s 2014 Songwriter of the Year.
Despite all the success and accolades for his music, Brandan is down-to-earth, grounded, and authentic. He and his wife are expecting their first child soon and this new season influenced much of the content on Heath’s 2017 release, Faith Hope Love Repeat. John Chisum unpacks a little of the reality of the music business, songwriting, and life in this episode with CCM Artist, Brandan Heath.
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Few songwriters cultivate more fertile creative soil when crafting a new album than Phillips, Craig, and Dean. Juggling dual vocations as both pastors and recording artists for more than two decades, Randy Phillips, Shawn Craig, and Dan Dean have created an impressive body of work inspired by what God is doing in their lives and their respective churches.
Transparency, passion and integrity have long been the foundation for Phillips, Craig, and Dean’s music and ministry. For more than two decades, the trio has churned out some of Christian music’s most enduring hits, including “Revelation Song,” which recently earned RIAA Gold Single status, signifying downloads of more than 500,000. This is only the seventh time in the history of Christian music that a single has reached gold status. The song spent 17 weeks at No. 1 on Billboard’s Christian AC chart and also topped the National Christian Audience chart, AC Indicator chart and Soft AC charts.
On this episode, John Chisum sits down with PCD’s Dan Dean to recall the group’s beginnings in 1991at Star Song Records and to walk through highlights of the group’s fantastic 25-year run. Dan shares some great stories, his songwriting process, and some valuable songwriting advice to aspiring writers.
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Ahhhh, the sounds of Christmas…. the ubiquitous Salvation Army Santa outside of Walmarts and Best Buys with that annoying little bell clanging till you give him a buck just to make him stop, but he never does...
The bustle of shoppers and imaginary tinkling of Silver Bells, the very real laughter and shooshing of ice skaters in Rockefeller Center...
The carols and classic songs in all the movies we binge watch leading up to the big day to help us get in the Christmas spirit…
Halloween is barely over before the malls and shopping centers and music on hold cranks up the endless loop of Winter Wonderland, I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus, and Frosty the Snowman, and, depending on your particular childhood memories of this holiday and how it played out in your house, this is either really awesome or a slow merciless death akin to Chinese water torture that FINALLY stops dripping on Christmas Day.
But does the world really need ANOTHER Christmas song?
Aren’t there enough already?
Certainly no one needs another BAD song about Christmas, but what if, just maybe…. YOU wound up penning a Silent Night or O Come, All Ye Faithful, or Tender Tennessee Christmas that actually became part of the sacred canon of Christmas tunes?
This week, John Chisum encourages you to believe in a Christmas miracle one more time and step up to write the songs only you can write.
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In 12th Century Benedictine tradition, the Church was viewed as a warm and hospitable place always open, and desirous, of wanderers and weary travelers. In fact, one monk would always be posted as the lookout, scanning the horizon for those in need of shelter called the “porter.” Whenever a road-worn traveler found his way to the monastery, the porter made sure that all the monks were alerted to greet the guest, wash his feet, feed clothe them, and pronounce that “Christ is surely among us.”
With this ancient vow of hospitality in mind, Isaac Wardell has formed The Porter’s Gate as a new movement in worship music, conversation, and community that seeks to return the high value of hospitality to us again. The fruit of this movement is The Porter Gate’s Worship Project: Volume 1/Work Songs featuring Audrey Assad, Josh Garrels, Liz Vice, Urban Doxology, and Aaron Keyes. Earthy, sober, raw, and organic are words that describe the songs on this stripped down, live project, a completely intentional move to show that authentic worship doesn’t have to be over-produced in order to reach the heart.
Wardell, director of worship arts at Trinity Presbyterian Church in Charlottesville, Virginia, understands very well the need for unity in a racially and politically divided church and country. The violent Unite the Right white supremacists rally garnering international news happened very close to Trinity and hit home for Wardell and the church.
It’s time, he says, to be an agent of change, to change the way the church engages the community. To reimagine a movement of redeeming love that seeks to welcome those outside its doors. “Of all our particular practices, liturgies and beliefs, the thing that marks us the most is our welcome, our hospitality,” Wardell says. “By becoming the porter at the gate, the Church identifying itself by its welcome/hospitality, it is a renunciation of power...” he says of the organization’s mission. “We give up the power to control the narrative and embrace the community and what it brings to the Church.” (Quoted from The Welcome of Worship
The Porter’s Gate Re-Imagines Music That Celebrates the Work of the People by Melissa Riddle Chalos)
If you’re someone critical of the “modern worship movement,” you’ll find Wardell and The Porter’s Gate’s music quite down-to-earth and refreshing. It’s almost like you’re sitting in the sanctuary at Trinity singing along with Wardell, Assad, Garrels, and the others as they bring worship back to the people.
You can connect with Isaac Wardell and read more about The Porter’s Gate at https:// www.portersgateworship.com/music-vol1.
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We’ve had so much response on Facebook posts about how to record your songs at home that we decided to record a special podcast to address that topic.
In this episode, John Chisum joins NCS/Song Revolution Podcast producer, songwriter, and all-around great guy, Bryant Urich, to dig into all things demo. Bryant is more than a podcast genius. He is an accomplished songwriter and music producer in his own right, joining forces with some of Nashville’s brightest and best to establish his own brand of music for film/television and the modern music marketplace.
In this episode you’ll learn:
- The difference between a “work tape” and a full-blown “demo”
- What you can expect to invest in done-for-you demos by Nashville musicians
- How John learned to edit on two-inch magnetic tape back in the Dark Ages of music recording
- Exactly what gear you need (including apps) to get started in your home recording
- What Nashville publishers and artists expect to hear on demos
- How different genres require different levels of expertise and investment to be heard
- And much more!
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Dave Clark is the real deal. He’s one of those down-to-earth and unassuming characters who would NEVER talk about himself or his accomplishments, but who has nonetheless impacted the world with his songs and career in the Christian music industry for over three decades.
Dave’s very real accomplishments include:
- Creative Director for Lillenas Publishing, a Kansas City-based Christian music company.
- Songwriting credits for songs recorded by artists including Rascal Flatts, Larnelle Harris, Sandi Patty, Steve Green, 4HIM, Al Denson, Point of Grace, Phillips, Craig & Dean, Glen Campbell, Donny Osmond, CeCe Winans, Michael Crawford, The Martins, and many others.
- Producer of numerous records including two Grammy-nominated projects for J.D. Sumner and the Stamps Quartet and producer of the “Get the Truth” recording for the American Bible Society.
- One of three songwriters commissioned to set the concepts of Henry Blackaby’s “Experiencing God” to music for an artist recording on Starsong Records.
- Author of Worship Where You’re Planted and Living in the Power of My Weakness from Beacon Hill Press.
- Author of more than 50 Christmas and Easter musicals performed each year in churches across the country.
- Co-writer of the Christmas song “Strange Way to Save the World,” which has been recorded by dozens of artists including Michael Crawford and Rascal Flatts.
- Awarded ASCAP’s Living Legacy Award in 2009 in honor of 25 #1 songs on the Christian Music Charts.
- Has enjoyed at least one #1 song in four consecutive decades.
- Dove Award winner
In this warm and candid interview, John Chisum brings you one of Christian music’s most humble servants and best storytellers, Dave Clark. Grab an iced tea, sit back, and enjoy this humble, yet very influential, songwriter and publisher.
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Tim Timmons’ life has always been one of adventure, but for the first time, the singer/songwriter feels awake enough to actually live it. After nearly two decades of ministry and a lifetime as a believer, Timmons is no stranger to the tenets of the Christian faith. Now he finds himself moving beyond believer to follower, awake and alive to the nearness of Jesus. His sophomore album, Awake Our Souls(Reunion Records), is a portrait of Timmons’ own awakening and an invitation for every listener to discover the abundant life beyond belief.
“We talk about all these things I’ve known about my whole life—like freedom in Jesus and overwhelming joy—but I’ve never known it until now, and it’s just this awakening in my soul,” the singer shares. “The goal of this record is to invite people into a new reality of the Kingdom of God that is around us all the time. Here are ten songs—ten prayers—that help me practically live in the availability and the truth of God’s Kingdom,” he says. “It’s a huge concept—the Kingdom of God… We have power, but who lives as though the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives inside of us? Jesus is saying, ‘You can do anything I did.’”
In this episode, John Chisum yuks it up with the very affable Timmons and talks about Timmons’ recent spiritual awakening from professional Christian to authentic believer and how it’s affected his entire life, ministry, family, songwriting, and world outlook. Armed with a new contentment in his soul, Timmons’ songs have taken on a whole new depth that is nothing short of incendiary to passive, cultural Christianity.
For all the latest information on Tim Timmons, including music, and touring, go to
www.TimTimmonsMusic.com, and check him out on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.
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Over the past decade, Aaron Shust has earned a reputation as one of Christian music’s most compelling songwriters and a vocalist of considerable depth and passion. He was named both New Artist and Songwriter of the Year at the 2007 Gospel Music Association Dove Awards and the impact of his song, “My Savior My God” was recognized with the Song of the Year honor. He has continued to build on that early promise to become one of the community’s most creative and trusted voices.
Shust is well known for such hits as “My Hope is in You,” which spent 14 weeks at No. 1, “No One Higher,” which hit the summit on the Inspirational chart and “Ever Be,” which made its way to No. 3 on the NCA chart. “O Come O Come Emmanuel” has become a perennial holiday favorite, earning acclaim as the most played song each December for 10 years in a row.
In this episode, John Chisum connects with the authentic Shust on family, songs, touring, and how to keep life real in the midst of success as a Contemporary Christian Artist and popular worship leader. You can connect with Aaron at aaronshust.com and on Twitter and Instagram @aaronshust.
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The piano intro of Journey’s mega-hit Don’t Stop Believin’, written and performed by Jonathan Cain, stands as one of the most iconic musical motifs in all of rock ‘n roll history. Cain’s own journey through over 40 years of music to date is epic, too, having written monster hits like “Faithfully,” “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms,” and with “Don’t Stop Believin’” being iTunes #1 rock catalog tune of all time. And, if that’s not enough success for one guy, Cain was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2017 and is still packing out arenas around the world with this classic rock band.
And yet, there’s a deeply spiritual side to Cain’s life. As he explains in this podcast, he received “prophetic words” from a pastor when he was only ten-years old that music would be his life, words echoed through the prayers of his own father, the one who uttered the words “Don’t stop believin’” destined to be one of the most recognized and loved songs on the planet, and most recently by well-known prophetic voices in the country of Ghana speaking blessing and truth over his life. Cain has been guided and blessed through these words, for sure, though life as a rock superstar hasn’t always been easy.
John Chisum recently caught up with Cain via Skype to capture some of the moving stories and prophetic undertones of Cain’s current journey into Christian music, including his new Christmas release, Unsung Noel. Cain spoke candidly about the “outpourings” of songs God has given him and of his fresh emphasis on writing for the Lord. He’s also developing more of his worship leading ministry as part of his dynamic marriage to Pastor Paula White of New Destiny Church in Apopka, Florida.
The journey of Journey’s Jonathan Cain is far from over and word has it that the best is yet to come.
You can follow Jonathan here http://jonathancainmusic.com/, Addiction Sound, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.
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Ginny Owens became a household name as the Gospel Music Association’s 2000 New Artist of the Year. Growing in notoriety as both a singer and a songwriter, winning 3 Dove awards and multiple ASCAP Awards along the way, Owens has sold over a million records over the course of her career. A top performer on the Christian radio charts with hits like “If You Want Me To,” “Free” and “I Wanna Be Moved” among others, Owens has released no less than 11 full albums and 3 EPs, and her music has also impacted mainstream audiences at Lilith Fair, the Sundance Film Festival and the White House.
In this episode, John Chisum has a chance to dig into the real life inspirations and struggles of this singer-songwriter who just happens to have been completely blind from three-years old. Despite this lifelong challenge, Ginny Owens has managed to capture a loyal audience with her soulful, yet-pop-oriented vocal style and songwriting and shows no signs of slowing down.
In this warm and often funny episode, John & Ginny cover everything from touring and songwriting to Ginny’s cooking with the Instapot® and Ginny shares valuable songwriting insights for every aspiring Christian songwriter.
Connect with her at ginnyowensmusic.com, on Twitter @GinnyOwens, and on Instagram @blindchickphotog.
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Jared Anderson did not always see himself writing worship music.The career of one of the most distinct voices in modern worship - with songs like “Glorified,” “Amazed,” and “Rescue” widely sung in churches around the world - almost never happened.
In fact, Jared considered distancing himself from worship music entirely, but always felt a pull to write something for the church. “God revealed to me, and it was a slow process, that worship isn’t just a genre of music,” he explains. “Worship songs are prayers. We’re reciting the word of God back to him, and pretty soon we’re not just reciting it or singing it, we’re living it.”
In this episode, John Chisum uncovers the spiritual and musical motivations of Anderson, one of the seminal songwriters and worship leaders of Colorado Spring’s New Life Fellowship, alongside key influencers Glenn Packiam, Jon Egan, the Desperation Band, and others.
Jared talks candidly about his classical piano background and all the hidden hours in the practice rooms at Oral Roberts University, contrasting them with his transition into a very public ministry with New Life and beyond. The first worship song he ever wrote, Rescue, launched his career and has led to more than a decade of worldwide impact in writing and ministry. What he describes as “something going on behind my back” as he continued to write songs like Amazed and Great I Am mushroomed into not only greater notoriety and accolades, but into greater conflict as Jared wrestled with his own inner motivations and sudden success.
At times both funny and raw, Jared’s transparency and humility are evident throughout this interview and songwriters will find his insights on songwriting invaluable.
You can connect with Jared at jaredanderson.com, on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/jaredandersonmusic, on Twitter and Instagram @jaredanderson.
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By all accounts, Tony Wood is the epitome of successful Christian songwriting. Take five minutes now to read the following list of artists who’ve recorded his songs and then ask yourself if Tony Wood might not have something very valuable to say to you about how to craft songs that span genres, styles, and even generations.
With over 700 songs recorded in the Christian music marketplace, Tony Wood songs have been recorded by Point Of Grace, Michael W. Smith, SELAH, 4-Him, Sandi Patty, Natalie Grant, Avalon, Ginny Owens, Mark Schultz, Brian Littrell (of the Backstreet Boys), Matt Redman, KUTLESS, Steven Curtis Chapman, Chris August, Mark Hall (of Casting Crowns), Group 1 Crew, Big Daddy Weave, Pocket Full of Rocks, FFH, Mandisa, Chris Sligh, Mark Harris, Francesca Battistelli, Colton Dixon, Nicole C. Mullen, Larnelle Harris, All Star United, Building 429, Jason Crabb, Joy Williams, Hawk Nelson, Jaci Valesquez, 33 Miles, Steve Green, PASSION, Gaither Vocal Band, Phillips, Craig & Dean, Royal Tailor, About A Mile, Petra, 7eventh Time Down, Kari Jobe, Anthony Evans, Wayne Watson, Meredith Andrews, Kim Hill, the Museum, Oak Ridge Boys, Don Moen, Rush Of Fools, Kathy Troccoli, Lincoln Brewster, OBB, Moriah Peters, Matt Wertz, Mike Donehey (of Tenth Avenue North), 1 Girl Nation, Aaron*Jeoffrey, Sidewalk Prophets, Guy Penrod, Booth Brothers, Cindy Morgan, Mark Lowry, Geoff Moore, Greg Long, Ricky Skaggs, Travis Cottrell, Kerrie Roberts, Clay Crosse, Scott Krippayne, Talley Trio, Bob Carlisle, Nichol Sponberg, Bill Gaither, Babbie Mason, Christy Nockels, Ian Eskelin, Steve Camp, Jonny Diaz, Russ Taff, Gold City, Ray Boltz, Jill Phillips, Paul Baloche, Aaron Shust, Leeland Mooring, Rob Mathes, Wayne Haun, Michael English, BarlowGirl, Sheila Walsh, Warren Barfield, Joseph Habedank, I AM THEY, Amber Nelon Thompson, Ronnie Freeman, TaRanda Greene, Brian Free and Assurance, NEWSONG, Susan Ashton, Veritas, Jim Brady Trio, Jody McBrayer, Matthew West, Tim Rushlow, Jessica Simpson, All Things New, Todd Agnew, Ronan Tynan, Legacy Five, Janet Paschall, Nelons, OBB, Kim Boyce, Gary Chapman, the Martins, Charles Billingsley, Russ Lee, Michael O’Brien, GLAD, First Call, Imperials, Karen Peck & New River, TRUTH, Alisa Turner and even more…
If you’re not impressed with that list, you’re listening to the wrong podcast.
In this episode, John Chisum has a fun and very valuable conversation with Tony about his humble beginnings and the leap of faith that brought him to Nashville with no connections, no guarantees, and only the faith that God had called him to become a Christian songwriter. Tony shares candidly about the long journey through trials and setbacks that required a lot of tenacity and faith for him to “make it” years after he settled here with his first song being recorded, as well as his uncertainty that the “next song will ever come.”
You can read more about Tony Wood on his website at tonywoodonline.com and follow him on Twitter and Instagram @tonywood_exit71.
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Many aspiring songwriters wonder why their songs aren’t having the impact they desire. Is this you? After all, you’ve felt the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to write down your thoughts, feelings, and passionate worship for God. Maybe you’ve felt driven to share a part of your story that is difficult, but you feel the need to help others through what you’ve been through, so you’re risking the vulnerability to put it in a song. But… cricket cricket... no one seems to care.
What now?
The truth is that there are thousands of Christian writers wanting to write about their passion for God and share their stories. How do you manage to stand out above the noise and have anyone pay attention? Here’s another truth: The effectiveness and impact of your song is directly tied to the quality of your original idea, no matter what the subject matter, and the hook/title that becomes your “North Star” that guides you through the process of actually crafting the song from beginning to end.
In this final in a four-part series, learn how to power up your songs immediately by increasing the quality of your ideas and following your “North Star hook” as John shares:
- Understanding the difference between the “essence” of an idea and an actual hook
- Why spending more time on your ideas pays rich dividends
- The importance of identifying the best hook to run with (the “North Star hook” concept)
- Examples of great North Star hooks others have crafted into hit songs
- Finding great ideas for songs and hooks
- Exactly how to let the North Star hook guide you through the process of writing the song
- The power of Word Clusters and how to use them
Use the principles in this episode to craft your own North Star hooks and sail safely into port with your next powerhouse song.
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So, how does one go from being laid off and barely scraping by to a new high-quality EP release? In this episode, NCS songwriter, Terrance McCoy gets real about sleeping on a blow-up mattress in a house he was painting to becoming a brand new music artist releasing his first EP on September 29th.
A graduate of the NCS “boot camp” program called “Mastering the Art & Craft of Christian Songwriting,” Terrance shares the good, the bad, and the worst as he struggled to grow in his songwriting and lay everything he had on the line to become the songwriter he knew he was called to be. And, somewhere in the process as he became willing to admit that he didn’t know everything there was to know about crafting great songs, Terrance discovered an even greater calling… his own call to Christian music artistry that has resulted in this new EP entitled “Transparency.”
A fitting debut title for Terrance, “Transparency” embodies his own struggles for purity, faith, and the authenticity required to make the true Gospel of Jesus Christ known to a dying world. Dedicating his music to the homeless and broken, Terrance McCoy’s music has a raw, earthy quality with direct and powerful messages designed to connect with even the most hardened heart.
We hope you enjoy this episode and the samplings of Terrance’s great new songs. You can connect with him at terrancemccoymusic.com or on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
Songs used in this podcast are from Terrance McCoy’s debut EP “Transparency” available September 29 on iTunes. The ebook “Seven Proven Strategies to Write Better Songs Now and Stand Out in a Crowded Songwriting Marketplace” is available at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com.
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Many aspiring songwriters wonder why their songs aren’t having the impact they desire. Is this you? After all, you’ve felt the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to write down your thoughts, feelings, and passionate worship for God. Why isn’t anyone listening and how can you step up to really fulfill your call to write impactful songs for Jesus?
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, veteran worship songwriter and teacher, John Chisum, opens up the topic of originality, pointing you to one of the most essential elements a successful songwriter has, the ability to tap into a higher level of originality and creativity in their writing.
Learn how to increase listenership and song impact as John shares:
- Why you should “zig” when everyone else is “zagging”
- How cloning other successful artists and songwriters is the “kiss of death”
- How to celebrate your uniqueness and use it to build a successful songwriting career
- What Einstein and Steve Jobs had to say about creativity and how it can help you discover deeper creativity in your life and songwriting
- Where to find deeper creativity in your life and tap into it for better songwriting
- Discover new freshness in your songwriting
- The power of ruthlessly self-editing your lyrics
- How to scope your lyrics and power them up through originality
- Growing as a songwriter by investing in originality first
- And more!
This is the third in a four-part podcast series. The final episode will cover: Letting Your “North Star” Hook Guide You Through the Songwriting Process
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Unless you’re familiar with the Reformed University Fellowship and Indelible Grace Music, you may have missed the incredible gift that is Sandra McCracken. The quintessential independent artist, Sandra hasn’t gone the way of being signed to a record company, but has released twelve recordings to date and has garnered a loyal following the world over for her folk-driven music rooted in Gospel hymnody. She’s also had songs recorded by All Sons & Daughters, Caedmon’s Call, Audrey Assad, and used on ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy.
In this informal, but profound conversation, John Chisum delves into the spiritual, theological, and musical motivations behind Sandra’s soulful, organic sound and many valuable insights into her life, ministry, and songwriting process, including:
- Discovering deeper worship in the dorm rooms at Belmont University
- Her resistance to “commercializing” the Gospel in music distribution
- Her part in starting a national university movement called the Reformed University Fellowship that has spawned a record company that promotes depth of theology in music called Indelible Grace Music
- The importance of music being shaped by a Biblical worldview
- The sacredness of all of life and how this influences her songs and songwriting
- Why sacred music was never intended to be held within the four walls of a church
- The wealth of hymns lost on the world that must be revitalized through current melody writing
- The challenge of “me-ism” in contemporary worship songs that are self-centric and how to go deeper in exalting God in music
- Finding “sabbath” as a songwriter and how to tap into a deeper well of words, theology, and the Holy Spirit
- Not settling for “transactional relationships,” but transcending the culture to become an important songwriter
- Why technology shortchanges our ability to be filled up and nourished by God, thus affecting our creativity and relationships
- Who she’s reading now and the authors she returns to time and time again for inspiration and great song ideas
- Her new CD/DVD called “Steadfast” recorded at Art House (Nashville) with the film version produced by Zach Prichard and featuring Gospel vocalist Liz Vice, as well as Leslie Jordan and David Leonard (All Sons & Daughters)
- Why songs are new each time you play them, no matter how familiar they may be
- How God can use suffering to increase our courage as artists and songwriters
- How “disruption” contributes to creativity and how you can use it to boost yours
- The “emotional leads” that put her in the songwriting zone and why historical hymns continue to speak to her heart
- Writing out of “emphasis” and the needs in specific communities, especially in an era desperate for social justice
- How to be the “unfiltered version” of yourself as a songwriter to discover your true voice and songwriting style
- And more...
Sandra’s “Steadfast” press release says of her, “Sandra McCracken’s prolific contributions as a songwriter, modern-day hymn writer and record producer has brought grace and clarity to her soulful, folk-gospel sound.Whether in a theater or in a chapel, she is a dynamic performer who blurs the lines of what church music sounds like, captivating and inviting audiences to sing along.While many of her songs like “We Will Feast In The House Of Zion”and “Thy Mercy My God”have settled into regular rotation in Christian worship services internationally, she has also had songs recorded by All Sons & Daughters, ABC’s Grey’s Anatomy, Audrey Assad, BiFrost Arts, Caedmon’s Call and others. She is further a founding member of Indelible Grace Music and Rain For Roots (children’s music) and has been a guest writer for Art House America, She Reads Truth,The Gospel Coalition, Christianity Today, RELEVANT Magazine and more.”
Forall the latest information on Sandra McCracken, including her touring, free chord charts and more, go to www.SandraMcCracken.com, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.
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Many aspiring songwriters wonder why their songs aren’t having the impact they desire. Is this you? After all, you’ve felt the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to write down your thoughts, feelings, and passionate worship for God, but it just seems like no one’s paying attention and you’re left wondering how to step up your songwriting to capture the ears of a broader audience.
Here’s what you need to know: The effectiveness and impact of your song is directly correlated with the quality of your original idea and your ability to craft it into a compelling hook that sticks in the minds of listeners and worshipers.
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, veteran worship songwriter and teacher, John Chisum, lays out important ways to increase the quality of your song ideas and how to develop those ideas into the most compelling hooks possible. This is how professional songwriters create lasting songs and even songs that become classics.
Learn how to increase the quality of your ideas and craft compelling hooks as John shares:
- How to dramatically increase your song power by deciding what you want to write about before you write
- Discover the “essence” of your idea through the power of song journaling
- Learn the four key elements to crafting powerful hooks
- Why songwriting is like target practice
- Keys to brainstorming hooks from your song ideas and how to refine them
- Why there’s room for only one idea in a song
- And more!
This is the second in a four-part podcast series. Upcoming episodes will cover:
Part 3 - Originality and How to Cultivate It Easily Into Your Songwriting
Part 4 - Letting Your “North Star” Hook Guide You Through the Songwriting Process
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What do you give someone who’s placed songs that have sold on over 80 million records worldwide, including Barbara Streisand, Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, Rich Mullins, and countless others? You give him a lot of respect. Randy Cox was one of the first major Christian music publishers swept up in what was to become Contemporary Christian Music.
Working alongside industry greats such as Bill Gaither, Bob McKenzie, Joe Huffman, Donna Hilley, and many other behind-the-scenes executives who helped shape what we now know as CCM and even modern worship, Randy Cox has made an indelible mark on Christian music. Listening to Randy talk about hearing “Father’s Eyes” (Chapman) for the first time, realizing how special it was, and pitching it to Brown Bannister for then unknown Amy Grant is remarkable, as well as signing a young upstart named Michael W. Smith.
Co-author of a new book called “Winds of Heaven, Stuff of Earth: Spiritual Conversations Inspired by the Life and Lyrics of Rich Mullins,” Randy reminisces about working with Rich and the power of his musical ideas, motifs, and personal quirkiness. Randy believes Mullins is the greatest poet of our time and represents eleven unknown Mullins’ songs presently unrecorded.
Randy Cox is one of the most remarkable music publishers in the history of Christian music and his legacy continues to grow as he mentors and coaches songwriters through his own company. He offers valuable songwriting insights that every serious songwriter can utilize in their songwriting immediately to move beyond “surface” writing to more thoughtful songs that effect deep change in the hearts of listeners.
You can connect with Randy on Facebook, or drop him an email at Randy.SongConsultant@gmail.com.
The new Rich Mullins book is available from Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Winds-Heaven-Stuff-Earth-Conversations/dp/1683970403/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1503012258&sr=8-4&keywords=Rich+Mullins+book
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Many aspiring songwriters wonder why their songs aren’t having the impact they desire. Is this you? After all, you’ve felt the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to write down your thoughts, feelings, and passionate worship for God. Maybe you’ve felt driven to share a part of your story that is difficult, but you feel the need to help others through what you’ve been through, so you’re risking the vulnerability to put it in a song. But… cricket cricket... no one seems to care.
What now?
The truth is that there are thousands of Christian writers wanting to write about their passion for God and share their stories. How do you manage to stand out above the noise and have anyone pay attention? Here’s another truth: The effectiveness and impact of your song is directly correlated with the quality of your original idea, no matter what the subject matter.
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, veteran worship songwriter and teacher, John Chisum, lays out important ways to increase the quality of your song ideas from which a higher quality song can be written. Chisum believes that most songwriters would be better served to spend more time on their ideas than the actual writing of them, given the writer has the right set of skills with which to capture those ideas.
Learn how to power up your songs immediately by increasing the quality of your ideas as John shares:
- Why a song is only as strong as its one central idea
- Why elevating your song idea is the ONLY way to grab the attention of publishers, artists, and record companies
- How to be heard by increasing the power of your song ideas before you write them
- Why pro songwriters get all the lucky breaks
- What would make publishers, producers, and artists jump out of their seats to work with you
- The importance of “song idea radar” and why you need it
- Why better ideas equals better hooks and better hooks equals better songs
- The secret sauce of hit songs and how you can use it in your songwriting
- Why Meghan Trainor’s “All About That Bass” was the breakout hit of 2014
- How to dramatically increase the power of your titles with the simple device of alliteration
- And more…
This is the first in a four-part podcast series. Upcoming episodes will cover:
Part 2 - Writing from the “Essence” of Ideas and How to Craft Compelling Hooks from Them
Part 3 - Originality and How to Cultivate It Easily Into Your Songwriting
Part 4 - Letting Your “North Star” Hook Guide You Through the Songwriting Process
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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New Integrity Music artist Alisa Turner is no stranger to tragedy. She lost her worship leader Dad to a sudden heart attack when she was a 20-year old aspiring Nashville singer-songwriter, was bedridden for six years with Lymes Disease, and lost her infant son, London, 71 minutes after he was born. Yet, her heart looms large with love for God, worship, and others, and her laughter and smiles are truly infectious.
In this deeply personal episode, John Chisum and Alisa dig into how she has managed to stay not only positive, but outright effervescent in the face of such losses and offer to the world an endless sense of hope despite the pain. Her worship is deep and the solid biblical foundations of her life support the profound and powerful messages in her songs.
The Integrity Music Press Release says of Turner, “Worship artist Alisa Turner sings with passion and vulnerability. Her songs capture something almost mystical, yet deeply rooted in the hard stuff of the “now and not yet” grit of the everyday. It’s the lilt and innocence in her voice and the heartbreaking, but hopeful truth of her story. That story is inextricably woven throughout her self-titled EP (Integrity Music) in a tapestry of grief, suffering, hope and redemption for which there is only one appropriate response: unfettered, unfiltered worship.”
An independent artist for over a decade, Alisa’s debut self-titled album produced by Michael Farren is available now as pre-sale and for downloads August 25th. In this episode, John and Alisa enjoy a candid, warm, and often funny conversation as they talk about:
- Hot chocolate on hot days (she’s obviously a “choco-holic”)
- Co-writing with high level songwriters like Word Music writer Tony Wood (29 #1 songs and counting), James Galbraith, Jessica Campbell, and Michael Farren
- How authentic ministry comes from tremendous tragedy and loss and how to craft songs even in the sorrow
- What it’s like to be “discovered” as an independent artist and find herself signed to Integrity Music
- Insights into her songwriting process, melody writing, and co-writing (and why she always takes food to cowrites!)
- How she thinks about writing melodies to words on the page
- Why she’s excited about gearing up for her radio concert tour with Greg Sykes
- And more...
For more information on Alisa Turner,visit www.alisaturner.com, or connect with her via Twitter @alisaturner, Instagram @alisaturnermusic and Facebook. Turner’s music is also available at iTunes, Apple Music, Google Play and Spotify.
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How much do you believe in your dream of becoming a successful songwriter? Have you been shut down in this dream because of discouragement, a lack of knowledge, a lack of definition around your goals for your songwriting? What does success for you really look like and how can you empower your songwriting dreams?
In this episode, John Chisum looks at the roles faith and perseverance have in making your dreams of successful songwriting come true, as well as the “bulletproof mindset” you have to maintain every day if you’re going to achieve what you believe is a calling from God on your life to write great songs.
Be encouraged and empowered as John talks about:
- Why seeing yourself as a songwriter releases creativity
- How to enlarge your vision and stretch the boundaries of your faith to become more successful
- Ways to become a student of great songwriting and why you MUST do that to reach your goals
- The correlation between sports training and songwriting
- How to take possession of your goals and dreams instead of leaving your fate in other’s control
- Effective ways to keep fear and discouragement out of your mind
- Why we bring all we are to our songs and how to bring your BEST self to the writing endeavor
- One valuable exercise you can do every day to sharpen your mental commitment to your songwriting success and experience powerful growth quickly
- And more!
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Best known as co-founder, lead guitarist, and songwriter of the British worship band Delirious? with Martin Smith, Stu Garrard helped shape the modern worship movement. Famous for culture-shifting songs like Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble and I Could Sing of Your Love Forever, Garrard helped to capture and define worship for an entire generation as Delirious? traveled the world leading millions in worship and even opening for Bon Jovi.
In this episode, John Chisum visits with Stu G around his new release called “The Beatitudes Project,” a full-length record featuring songs Stu co-wrote with industry-leading artists Amy Grant, Audrey Assad, Michael W. Smith, All Sons and Daughters, Joel Houston, and many more. The album is accompanied by a book, Words from the Hill (An Invitation to the Unexpected) released in April by NavPress, and a documentary film, View from the Hill, now in production.
In this episode, John and Stu discussed not only The Beatitudes Project, but great moments in Stu’s career, what it’s like to co-write with amazing artists, and offered songwriting advice to aspiring writers.
About Stugiology Music: Stugiology Music is a record label formed by Stu Garrard, who is perhaps best-known as the guitarist / songwriter for the RIAA Certified Gold-selling, GRAMMY-nominated and Dove Award-winning British band Delirious?. He is also a founding member of One Sonic Society (although no longer with the band) and recorded and released his first solo project in 2013, Of Burdens, Birds, and Stars. When not touring with Michael W. Smith or adding his sonic paint to Casting Crowns, Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, Meredith Andrews, All Sons & Daughters, Amy Grant and many others’ recordings, Garrard is writing, recording, speaking, leading worship and working with JHS on a custom line of guitar pedals. He lives in Nashville with his wife Karen. For all the latest Stu Garrard news and tour information, go to www.stugworld.com.
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Being an artist of any type-- painters, sculptors, authors, dancers-- requires the ability to see beyond what exists to a different realm, to use imagination, creativity, and hard work to give birth to something that didn’t exist before. Be it a poem or book that transforms readers, a dance that moves an audience to tears, or a song that evokes deep worship from a congregation, each existed in the imagination first before it was experienced.
It’s the same for songwriters. Songwriters are dreamers, too. They have to be. It requires imagination, faith, and a lot of time and work to “birth” songs. It begins with the desire to communicate and then works its way out by learning the songwriting tools to use, and then finally great songs can be born.
In this episode, John Chisum helps you unlock hidden creativity and tap into your imagination like never before, simply by recognizing common pitfalls writers experience and how to avoid them. He also covers five ways you can empower your songwriting dreams immediately. John shares his own brand of humor, experience, and expertise, as well as:
- Why the first time music moved you is so important, even years later
- The importance of reclaiming your personal power in life and songwriting
- How a song brought him out of a panic attack at 2 a.m.
- How intentionality can get your songwriting back on track
- Five keys you can use now to empower your songwriting dreams
- How to use “pattern interrupts” to get out of your mental paralysis
- Why returning to your inspirational “first love” is one of the most empowering things you can do to break out of a writing slump
- And much more…
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What does live music production have to do with how you write your songs? According to the most successful live music producer in the business for over 25 years and counting, Tom Jackson, the two are completely intertwined. He believes that your ability to think about how songs create “moments” in live shows will dramatically increase your chances of having your songs recorded and used by popular artists.
He’s worked with Taylor Swift, Shawn Mendez, Jordan Sparks, Jaci Velasquez, Francesca Battistelli, LeCrae, The Band Perry, Jason Crabb, Casting Crowns, Newsong, and many more.
Connecting your songs to artists and audiences is your first priority as an independent songwriter. In his work with such artists as Taylor Swift and Shawn Mendez, Jackson understands the power of songs and how they can be used to create powerful live performances.
In this episode, John Chisum sits down with Tom and addresses topics such as:
- The power of persistence in songwriting and performing for optimum success
- The secrets of longevity in music
- How “planned spontaneity” is key to live shows and songwriting
- The philosophy for creating “moments” in your songs for live performances
- Tom’s four-fold method for working with artists to bring out their best performance and how you can use it, too
- Why a vision for your show, service, and song is vital to success
- The unspoken negative signals you’re constantly sending to your audience and how to change them
- Where the best ideas for performance and songs come from
- Tools for singers and songwriters to interact with your audience effectively
- Using dynamics to create anticipation in your songs and performance
- Bringing your personality to your songs and performance through themes and characters
- Why a song is like a “mini-movie”
- How to give your audience permission to think and be present with you in your songs
- And so much more…
Connect with Tom Jackson on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/onstagesuccess/ and check out his book Tom Jackson’s Live Music Method on Amazon.com at https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Jacksons-Live-Music-Method/dp/1936417685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500007558&sr=8-1&keywords=tom+jackson+live+music+method.
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Let’s face it… inspiration is the key to success. Without it, songwriters find themselves caught in an endless loop of low productivity and life dissatisfaction. So how do the pros do it? How do successful artists and songwriters keep themselves up enough to write, perform, and be creative all the time?
In this episode, John Chisum shares key insights you need to keep yourself inspired to get amazing songs written and to even kick off a whole new season of creativity that can affect everything in your life in a very positive way.
John shares:
- Why having a creative vision is key to songwriting success
- The difference between extrinsic and internal motivators and how to use them for quicker results
- Ways to get real again and return to your first love
- How to discover your creative process and use it to build your song catalog
- Why everything in your environment affects your creativity and thus your song output - - colors, temperature, emotions, unsettled business
- The importance of resourcing yourself daily for maximum creative output
- And more!
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Jennifer McGill was an international Disney star at age 11. As part of the cast of The All New Mickey Mouse Club for seven seasons with cast members such as Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Ryan Gosling, and Brittany Spears, Jennifer was groomed for the same pop stardom. But when her life track didn’t go as planned, Jennifer went through fifteen years of searching that brought her to a breaking point.
What happened next was nothing short of miraculous, bringing about changes for Jennifer and her career that would lead her into whole new realms of life, ministry, and warring for the souls of young girls through her show Bravehearted Girls.
In this powerful episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, Jennifer McGill shares:
- What it was like to be chosen for the New Mickey Mouse Club and to stay on the show for seven seasons
- Her journey from being a child star to surviving the trials of adulthood and finding her own identity after the show
- Overcoming the comparison to former Mousketeers and discovering what “IT” is for her at this time in her life and career
- How excellence has set her free to be who she is as a singer, songwriter, and artist
- The mistakes that disconnected her from God and imprisoned her real expressions of love, music, or creativity and how she broke out by rededicating her life to Christ
- Why the fight is worth it and why you MUST fight your way out of your desperation
- What she learned in New York City and how God moved her on into new seasons of perspective as she let go of her own passions and will to succeed
- Why you’re crazy to give up at 40…
- Her ministry for tweens to teach them to fight fear through the show Freedom Fighters and how to develop prayer in their lives
- Why “the power of us” is so important to her life and ministry as she’s overcome childhood bullying and now wants to share freedom from it with young girls
- How we wrote the title song to her new full-length album “Unbreakable” releasing June 16th, 2017
- What a “track guy” is in a co-writing session and how to write pop songs without one
- Things she’s learned as a new co-writer in Nashville and how to do it well
- The secret of “letting go of control” in order to write great songs
- Why it’s not always about “who you know” that enlivens your spirit and inspires your songs
- How to connect with Jennifer and her ministry
- And much more!
You can connect with Jennifer on Facebook at Jennifer McGill Bohannon and at her official website www.JenniferMcGill.com, on Instagram @theJenniferMcGill, and on Twitter @theJennMcGill.
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If you’re like most aspiring Christian songwriters, you’re #1 challenge is “getting heard” and “getting your songs out there.” But what if you just can’t seem to get that “lucky break” and bump into Michael W. Smith at Cracker Barrel in your hometown or win some big contest to co-write with Lauren Daigle?
Is your songwriting success lying solely in the hands of fate like a chance meeting with a prominent artist, or, is there Someone else on whom your success really depends?
In this episode, Christian music industry veteran, John Chisum, pulls back the curtain on some common misperceptions about the reality of “the good ol’ boy” Nashville industry and offers wisdom and biblical insight on real songwriting success.
John’s insights included in this podcast:
- Why the answer to the title question is both “Yes” and “No”
- What success really is for Christian songwriters in God’s eyes
- Why true success isn’t a game of “Leap Frog”
- The importance of avoiding The American Idol Syndrome
- The great example of “America’s Hymn Writer,” Fanny J. Crosby (she wrote over 9,000 songs)
- How God uses those who choose to become “skilled craftsman”
- Ways to claim your songwriting destiny
- Why you ALREADY have access to industry leaders
- Tools for fulfilling your passionate call to write great Christian songs
- And more!
You can contact John Chisum at john@nashvillechristiansongwriters.com or follow him on Instagram @nashvillechristiansongwriters and on Twitter @NCSsongwriters.
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Have you ever wondered how to protect the copyright of your songs? Where do you begin to understand what it means to actually “publish” songs and how to work with music companies or to be your own publisher? What should you expect if you assign publishing to a music company? Is it enough to mail your songs to yourself anymore or is that just an old wives’ tale?
In this fun and informative episode, John visits with Susan Fontaine Godwin, Founder/Chief Vision Officer for Christian Copyright Solutions, a company established to provide licensing solutions for the Christian community, including songwriters, artists, and churches. If you are currently writing and releasing your songs on YouTube, Soundcloud, or any social media, this episode will help you learn how to protect your songs and sound recording copyrights.
In-between all the laughter and fun, John and Susan discuss many helpful guidelines to demystify the copyright process, including:
- Registering your copyrights and what a “tangible method of expression” is
- Affiliating with a PRO (Performing Rights Organization) and why/when you should do this
- How CCLI (Christian Copyright Licensing International) works and how to get started registering your songs for church usage (important for worship songwriters)
- The eight types of intellectual properties that can be copyrighted
- What’s happening with digital streaming licenses and royalties
- Avoiding infringement of your copyrights
- What to look for in publishing deals
- Becoming a good steward of your creative works
- Educating yourself on the business side of songwriting
- How CCS is making a difference for independent artists and songwriters
- And much more!
You can contact Susan Fontaine Godwin at @christiancopyrightsolutions.com, follow her on Twitter at @doingmusicright, and on Instagram at @christiancopyrightsolutions.
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The world of songs, songwriting, and music publishing has changed. As in book publishing, television, movies, and all forms of art, entertainment, and intellectual properties, technology has forever altered the way our music is delivered, who creates it, who owns it, who controls it, and how fans are attracted to it.
The good news is also the bad news: Anyone can write a song today, no matter how good or bad, record it on their home computer, and have it uploaded on YouTube in about a half hour.
The result is a sea of mediocre to very bad songs that no one cares about.
How can you rise above it and actually stand out to really be heard? Is getting your song on someone’s record or on the radio really the ultimate validation for your call to write songs?
In this episode, John Chisum unpacks the myths about real success in songwriting, releasing you to fulfill yours with greater vision, clarity, and ultimate success in God’s and your eyes. This episode is a must for all worship leaders writing for their church, singer-songwriters hoping to build a bigger platform, those aspiring to be professional songwriters, and for anyone wrestling with an inner passion to write songs with no idea how to do it or fulfill their calling.
In this episode, John discusses:
- His own journey in songwriting from obscurity to having over 400 songs published
- What it feels like to have fulfilled a real call to impact the nations
- How to define “success” for yourself and for your songs
- Getting real about where you are and what it takes to get where you really want to be
- The myths of chasing “the music biz” instead of authentic stewardship
- How to get rid of envy in your life and what the Bible really says about your gifts
- Keeping your eyes on the prize while keeping up with the daily grind
- Why it’s all the little things in your life that add up to the one BIG thing you’re dreaming of
- Practical advice for building your song catalog and why writing tons of songs isn’t necessarily the right strategy
- How to begin to “think like a professional songwriter” and avoid the trap of narcissism
- The importance of resourcing yourself and staying in a creative flow every day
- And much more…
John Chisum is Managing Partner of Nashville Christian Songwriters, a coaching and resource company that exists “to empower Christian songwriters worldwide” and the sponsor of this podcast.
You can reach John at john@nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and follow him on Instagram @nashvillechristiansongwriters and on Twitter as @revchiz or @NCSongwriters1.
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Audrey Assad is, by her own admission, a very opinionated person.
Of Middle Eastern descent, yet raised in a small cult-like expression of the Plymouth Brethren denomination in New Jersey, she was not allowed to sing or read Scriptures in front of males and suffered tremendous personal repression as a child. Ironically, the very things she endured became the fuel of her deeply layered artistry that blends ancient-future influences into her uniquely beautiful music.
Her debut album The House You’re Building (2010) was named Christian Album of the Year on Amazon.com and the Christian Breakthrough Album of the Year on iTunes and she has worked and toured with other great CCM artists such as Chris Tomlin, Tenth Avenue North, Matt Maher, and Jars of Clay.
In this episode, John Chisum and Audrey discuss the role of pain in art, literary influences in lyric writing, how the historic Christian traditions of beauty and literature are sometimes lost on the evangelical church, as well as:
- How she came to Nashville with the help of Mike Donehy, lead singer of the band Tenth Avenue North
- Being who you are as a singer-songwriter and how to use “discovery tools” like Spotify to build your own following
- What it means to walk away from the “established” Christian music industry over artistic control and financial accountability
- Writing religious music for the people who would never buy it or want to listen to “Christian” music
- The role of catharsis and lament in art and how pain shapes our worship
- Her “non-Christian” band called Levv and her foray into EDM
- Contextualizing pain and how to redeem it in songwriting… “You can’t heal from a wound that you don’t know is there…”
- Why she always writes the songs that she needs first in order to “preach the Gospel to herself” every day
- The literary influences in her writing such as Jane Austen, Tolstoy, Rohr, Merton, John Donne, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Madeleine L’Engle, and Mother Teresa
- Her musical influences from 70’s folk/rock music, despite the strictures of the Plymouth Brethren beliefs
- How to resource yourself through reading, imagination, and creativity to avoid rehashing Christian music from a decade ago
- Approaching hooks with simplicity
- How she wrote the song Restless from her first album, still one of her most popular songs
- Setting poems to music
- Her favorite exercises to add creativity and uniqueness to your music and to break out of ruts by intentional disruption
You can check out Audrey and her music at audreyassad.com, on Instagram @audreyassad, Twitter @audreyassad, and her EDM band Levv at Levvmusic.com and on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/LEVVmusic/
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Along with not having your songs heard and “getting them out there,” if you’re like most aspiring songwriters, your next greatest challenge is probably what we call “writer’s block.” But what is writer’s block and why do you have it? What causes it and what can cure it? Is there any way to avoid it and discover an endless flow of creativity to fuel your songwriting?
If you’ve listened to these podcasts, you’ve already heard John Chisum doesn’t believe in writer’s block, despite the millions who seemingly suffer from it and commonly complain of it. In this insightful episode, John talks about the causes of decreased work flow and how to reframe the concept of writer’s block to eliminate its power over you and your songwriting forever.
What you’ll learn from this podcast:
- Why you bring all you are to your songs
- The importance of constantly feeding your creativity and how to do it
- Drinking from distant wells… digging new ones
- The iTunes Sweep Exercise and how to find fresh ideas
- How to release yourself from the past with all of its limiting beliefs and behaviors
- Developing detachment from your songs and the results you seek
- What to do when writing isn’t fun anymore
- Why perfectionism kills creativity (and is the flip side of fear)
- Using natural and virtual disruptions to blast through blocks
- Knowing when to walk away from a song (at least for a while)
- Eliminating the idea of being blocked forever and reclaiming your creative power
- And more...
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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What’s it like to be young 20-somethings in hot pursuit of a Nashville record deal? What does it mean to hang out with some of the best new talent in the city and have open doors with top music producers and publishers?
Find out on this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast with up-and-coming duo Drake and Lucy-Jayne Lanier (Drakeford) as they talk candidly about doors that may, or may not, be opening for them in the music industry and how they’re building a music career one coffee shop at a time.
Along with performing three originals on the show, John Chisum interviews this beautiful and talented young couple to give you insight on:
- What people don’t want to hear when you’re singing on the street
- Writing songs true to yourself
- How fast-paced lyrics capture attention and hold it
- Living out the faith of a full-time music life
- The spiritual power of music
- Life without a booking agent
- Their unique process in hopes of communicating in fresh, relevant ways
- Why authenticity is key to their ministry and songwriting
- How evangelism and relationships are key to knowing Jesus and communicating His love in this culture
- Communicating with “non-Christian” audiences in bars, schools, universities, and other venues
- What it means to build a music ministry from scratch
- How to know when to drop a song from your set
- Competing on the commercial side of things and the process required to grow from amateurs to professionals
- The value of co-writing, mentorship, and receiving critique to improve your perspective and reach more people with your music
Connect with Drakeford on FaceBook at https://www.facebook.com/drakeford.john.1 and on Instagram at @drakeford_music, on Twitter at @Drakeford_ , on Spotify here and on their website at drakefordmusic.com.
Songs included in this podcast are “Stronger Than One,”Never Leave or Forsake Us,” “Chattanooga,” and “Ruins” Words and Music by Drakeford & Lucy-Jayne Lanier. © Copyright by Drake and Lucy-Jayne Lanier. All Rights Reserved.
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How do you find your “mission” as a songwriter? Isn’t it just about writing songs that praise Jesus or talk about the cross or the Bible? While it includes those things, John Chisum, Managing Partner of Nashville Christian Songwriters and prolific songwriter himself, believes it goes much deeper than that and that God has greater plans to impact lives through you than you could ever imagine.
In this episode, John brings you three key insights for finding your true songwriting mission using examples from well-known Contemporary Christian Music artists such as Natalie Grant, Amy Grant, and Steve Green. While these artists have had enduring music success, each of them have invested in their true calling by doing much more than music alone.
John helps you unlock your true mission as a songwriter by discussing:
- Honing in on the central themes of your life and using them to guide your songs
- Writing courageously to connect with listeners
- Why “waiting for a lucky break” is a lie
- What it means to start building a platform for your songs and ministry
- The false standard of commercial Christian music
- Seeing songwriting as ministry first, business second
- Why being heard before you’re ready is the “kiss of death”
- Why “commercial” isn’t a dirty word
- How to stop the insanity in your songwriting
- The art of receiving critique and the death of ego and pride
- Great songwriting resources
- A very special debut of “Most Holy God,” a new uptempo worship song from one of John’s songwriting clients, Chantel Waltz
- And much more!
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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In this episode, John Chisum interviews the inimitable Dr. Mike Harland, Director of LifeWay Worship. LifeWay has reach into millions of believers and is one of the world’s largest Christian resource ministries offering a full range of music, Bible studies, research, events, and much more.
Mike Harland has been at the helm of LifeWay Worship for twelve years and brings an amazing amount of information and depth about songs, songwriting, and the publishing industry in this powerful show.
You’ll gain much songwriting inspiration and information as Mike and John discuss:
- How to write from the overflow of your devotion to God
- How to follow God’s leading into your destiny and be who YOU are as a Christian songwriter
- Why character matters more than ability
- How frustration shuts you down creatively
- Remembering that intimacy with God is our real “platform”
- What LifeWay Worship is doing this year you should know about
- Why no one would be “served well” if publishers threw their doors open to receive unsolicited material and how you can really be heard as an unpublished writer
- Why you can’t hide a GREAT song (and how “I Can Only Imagine” was born)
- How great songs will always “find their way” to the forefront
- How songs are “good,” “great,” or “commercial”
- What makes a song unique and the distance between great songs and commercial songs
- What motivates publishers to publish YOUR songs
- Why we don’t need another Lauren Daigle
- Fanny Crosby, Xiao Min, and the idea of God “dropping songs” on people
- Mike’s tips on song process and why we undervalue the process of writing songs and its effects on us as songwriters
- And much more...
Catch up with Mike Harland on Twitter at @mikeharlandLW, on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/mike.harland.37 and check out all the great resources LifeWay offers at Worshiplifeevent.com, Worshiplife.com, Lifewaysongs.com.
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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How many times have you wanted to write a song, only to come up empty? Do you ever get tired of playing the same chords over and over and writing the same hackneyed phrases again and again? Do you wonder how professional songwriters seem to come up with fresh, powerful ways of saying things and keep turning out hits when you’re stuck in a rut?
In this episode, veteran Christian songwriter and publisher, John Chisum, shares from his heart five keys to unlocking your hidden creativity to get back on track and writing like never before.
Listen to find out:
- How to beat writer’s block for good
- What real creativity is and how you can develop it in your life and writing
- The power of resourcing yourself every day
- Where to look for fresh song ideas and hooks
- How to mine your story and the stories of others for great songs
- How to “redeem your pain” instead of just “share” it
- How to tap hidden veins of fresh creativity in your life
As a special bonus, download John’s post Telling Our Stories Redemptively here. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with your friends and leave us a nice review.
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From the outside, it may look like Jason Gray has the perfect life. Now in his 10th year as a commercial Christian recording artist with a string of successful collaborations with some of the biggest names in Christian music, number one hit radio songs, touring with the likes of Natalie Grant, Lauren Daigle, and many more, it’d be easy for the casual onlooker to assume that Jason has it all together. But it doesn’t take more than a minute with him to realize that life has been anything but rosy for Jason, despite the popularity of his music and all the commercial success he has gained.
In this episode of The Song Revolution Podcast, John Chisum gets quickly to the deeper side of Jason Gray. In their thoughtful and transparent discussion, Jason shares candidly about how his broken, abusive home growing up, his speech impediment, his own divorce, and one of the darkest moments in his life in which he could have ended it all has influenced the transparency and depth of his writing.
Jason performed three songs during this episode, Death Without a Funeral, With Every Act of Love, and Without Running Away… each a powerfully crafted and emotionally impacting song that reveals the deep well of his heart and the masterful level of wordsmithing and tune crafting Jason has come to be known for in his ministry.
Among the many awesome moments of this discussion, Jason talks about:
- How the “gift” of his speech impediment has shaped his songs
- How he creates “points of entry” for his listeners to go deeper in the Gospel
- Why our brokenness is the very place God meets us and how he captures those places in his songwriting
- The balance between too much/too little transparency in songwriting and how his mentor, Walter Wangerin, taught him how to “give” to his audience instead of “taking” from them through over-sharing
- How to redeem your pain properly and how God used him to pray for couples in distress despite his own divorce and pain
- Three song categories and how to write for each, including the kind that are “unhewn stones” not to be touched by craft and made as a simple offering to God
- Insightful thoughts on his own song processes and why he chooses to be “invisible” inside his songs
- How “taking tools off the table” leads to creativity beyond our normal capacities
- How writers such as Frederick Buechner and N.T. Wright have influenced his lyrics
- How God spoke to him through an agnostic folk singer named Paul Simon and how God is able to make himself heard with or without our permission
- What the future may be for his songwriting and ministry
Anyone cynical about contemporary Christian music has yet to discover Jason Gray. This podcast will stir your creativity, challenge your preconceived notions about who God can or cannot use, and will dare you to face your own brokenness and need for Jesus, whether you write songs or just love listening to them.
You can connect with Jason Gray at jasongraymusic.com and follow him on FaceBook, Twitter, and Instagram.
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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Are you stuck in your songwriting? Have you suddenly realized that weeks, maybe months, have gone by since you even finished a song, much less felt happy about it? Does the phrase “writer’s block” instill fear in your heart? What would it look like if you had a way to turn it all around to find yourself writing more productively than ever before?
In this show, John Chisum gives you three strategies he’s used in his own writing to stay current with musical trends, to keep creativity at its fullest, and to stay inspired and never have writer’s block. In this episode, you’ll learn:
How to increase your song output immediately
Keys to kicking up your creativity every day
How to spot creativity “Vampires” and shut them down
The #1 sin of artists and how to avoid it
The importance of falling in love with music again
Why surrender isn’t passivity
How to never write on empty again
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
Do you wonder how songs really get on records and the radio? Do you wonder what it’s like to co-write or to have your songs heard by successful artists and how the song process works? Want some amazing insights into what it takes to really be heard by top music industry publishers?
Chad Segura is VP of Publishing for Centricity Music in Franklin, Tennessee, and is one of the music industry’s most loved and respected figures, working with writers such as Seth Moseley, Benji Cowart, Jason Gray, and the roster of Centricity Music artists. In this episode, John Chisum sits down with Chad to talk about how song publishing happens, Chad’s musical influences, his journey to become a 20-year champion for songwriters, and the challenges of learning how to decipher the Southern dialect for a guy from the Northwest.
This fun and informative discussion also covers:
- Creation, stewardship, and monetization of songs
- Identifying talent and developing songs
- Co-writing and collaboration
- Radio singles versus album cuts
- Film, TV, Apple Music, and exploiting songs fully
- Chad’s philosophy of songwriting
- Encouragement that there’s no shortage of opportunity for songwriters
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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How do you manage to stand out in a sea of songs? How do you rise above the tide and make a mark with your songs? In this episode, John Chisum pulls back the curtain on how you can do what famous songwriters and singers have done for years by discovering your unique songwriting “voice.” Just like famous authors Hemingway, Twain, Plath, Lewis, and many more have found and developed a unique voice in their prose, songwriters just like you can develop powerful nuance in your songwriting to help you reach the kind of success you desire. You’ll learn three valuable ways to do that:
- Remembering that writers write and write and write
- Writers seek to be unique
- Real songwriters study the mechanics and take risks
As a special bonus in this episode, John reveals his own Song Continuum he uses with his songwriter clients and offers it to you HERE as a free gift to use in your songwriting.
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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Jordy Searcy was on The Voice, Season 7, and was able to experience the limelight of a massive audience until he was bounced off in the battle rounds. But what’s life like after major exposure like that? What was it like to be up close and personal with stars like Pharrell Williams? What did he learn from the show that is helping him now as an aspiring singer-songwriter? In this show, John Chisum sat down with Jordy early one morning before he left for a weekend of shows in Chicagoland and heard wisdom beyond his years, a couple of amazing songs, and witnessed a little of the stellar guitar playing and vocals that will be sure to carve out a unique place for this motivated young artist. For more information on Jordy Searcy, connect with him at http://jordysearcy.co/ and follow him on Twitter at @jordytSearcy and on Instagram at @jordysearcy
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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We all bring all we are to the songwriting process. If we’re depressed, we write sad songs. If we’re still processing a lot of pain, we bring all that pain to the process of songwriting and it’s expressed in the song itself one way or the other. Our stories are vital to becoming successful as we learn to use them in our writing instead of being driven by them and recognizing that God is present everywhere in our stories for His glory. In this episode, John Chisum shares his own songwriting story and how God “tricked” him into coming to Nashville with only $40 and no place to live, only to wind up with a thirty-year career in Christian music songwriting and publishing. He helps you see God’s hand in your story and gives you three powerful tools to use in writing your best and using your story to empower and help others in theirs.
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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Music business executives have come and gone through the years, but no one has outlasted Centricity Music’s John Mays, the longest-standing A&R Director in Christian music. John’s career has spanned thirty years and he has been influential in the careers of artists such as Cindy Morgan, Point of Grace, Phillips, Craig & Dean, and many more. John is currently directing the musical development of successful artists such as Johnny Diaz, Jason Gray, and the award-winning Lauren Daigle. In this episode, John Chisum sits down with his long-time friend to discuss nicknames, Mexican food, work ethic, the state of the Christian music industry, and the amazing opportunities awaiting songwriters and artists in the future.
Check out more information and a full artist roster at www.centricitymusic.com and follow John on Twitter at @maysjp and on Instagram at @mayscast
A lot of people say they “hate Christian radio” because it’s formulaic, predictable, and represents only a small portion of the Christian life. In this episode, John Chisum enlists you in a new movement to change the status quo, but not by criticizing and cursing the existing radio formats. Isn’t it time for Christian songwriters to start loving instead of hating? Isn’t it time to walk in love and do what we can to get our songs out through other means instead of criticizing anyone or anything that already exists promoting the Gospel in whatever way they are? What if there’s a change a’coming that you could be part of that could impact the world like nothing we’ve ever seen? The very first thing that has to happen to be heard is to be READY to be heard. Are you ready? Come on and join the Song Revolution!
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
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Welcome to The Song Revolution Podcast where a new Christian music movement has begun! Led by prolific songwriter, publisher and long-time industry veteran, John Chisum, we're here to empower you to write your best songs yet with inspiring insights, fresh motivation, and great interviews with amazing songwriters, artists, producers, industry leaders, and all-around creative types. Come on and join the revolution!
For more information visit www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com and join the Successful Christian Songwriters Group on Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/SuccessfulChristianSongwriters/?fref=nf