The Nurturing Father's Podcast: Recent Episodes

Mark Perlman/Corey Perlman

Based on The Nurturing Father's Program, this podcast discusses the joys and complexities of being a nurturing father. Hosted by father and son, Mark and Corey Perlman

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Join us as legendary NFL player Merril Hoge shares his inspiring motto, "Find A Way," and discusses how his football career shaped his approach to fatherhood and nurturing relationships.

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Join us for a compelling discussion with Ted Braude as we explore boys' intense relationships with video games and the challenges of navigating addiction in the digital age.

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Join us as special guest Jeff Tunnell shares his transformative experiences facilitating the Nurturing Fathers program for over a decade and the impact it has had on countless families.

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Discover effective strategies for engaging teens in open, honest conversations about sex and relationships.

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Join us as we reflect on the profound ways the Nurturing Fathers program has reshaped so many lives of both fathers and their families.

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Explore the controversial origins of the Nurturing Fathers program and how it challenged societal norms in the 90s.

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Ted Braude talks about his experience as a social worker, working with young and pre-teen boys, and shares some tips on how to approach certain situations with boys and pre-teens!

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Justin Margolis talks to MArk and Corey about his journey as asingle father and how it led him to his social work today!

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Mark and Corey are joined by Howard Winkler to talk about his experience in family and child support services, working with The Nurturing Father's Program, and breaks down the 5 questions he considers when being a nuturing father.

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Dr. James Rodriguez joins Mark and Corey to talk about his alignment with The Nurturing Father's Program, his own story into social work, and the upcoming International Families and Father's Conference this April 2024!

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Mark and Corey are joined by Reverend Rickey Hodges, Dr. Alan-Michael Graves, and Pastor John L. Jefferson to discuss how faith and The Nurturing Father's Program work together!

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An inspiring conversation about helping our children deal with the inevitability of grief as they navigate life.

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"You want to Impress this man? Show me how much time you're spending with your kids. Right now, on average, it's 33 minutes per week and that's not good enough."

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Corey & Mark discuss how new technologies are creating barriers (and opportunities!) to being a Nurturing Father!

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Juan's story is truly a Heroes Journey as he found his way through a tough battle with addition and is now helping men become Nurturing Fathers!

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Mark and Corey talk about the importance of maintaining rituals during the holiday season and share their personal holiday experiences growing up!

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Corey and Paul met while coaching their sons' flag football team. Corey was impressed with Paul's coaching style and how he uses positivity and nurturing to motivate his team.  Paul discusses his coaching style, the challenges and benefits to coaching his own kids, and why every dad should jump at the chance to coach at least once in his lifetime.  

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Program Manager | Buffalo Fatherhood Initiative, Antoine discusses his role with this amazing organization, and how he used the abuse and abandonment from his childhood to forge a new, nurturing path for himself and his family.

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Shannon is the author of The Ultimate Stay-at-Home Dad, podcaster and BuzzFeed recognized him as one of the funniest women of the week in 2020, which was weird because he is not a woman.  We talked humor in the home, technology & teens, and bonding over the world's largest ball of yarn?!

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Topics covered: Fathering at different ages and stages, fathering different personality types, blended families, and so much more! 

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Listen to this powerful redemption story as Sharmain shares his journey from a wayward path of drugs and prison to creating a successful and rewarding career in helping fathers and families flourish. 

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Mark Perlman and Joe Ferrandino continue sharing the background on their 50+ year friendship and how that shaped their fatherhood journey and the roots of the Nurturing Father's Program.

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Mark Perlman and Joe Ferrandino share the background on their 50+ year friendship and how that shaped their fatherhood journey and the roots of the Nurturing Father's Program.

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In this episode, we interview Bronkar Lee, a talented father who has used music and rhythm as a way to connect with his children.  He unpacks how one of his videos with his son went on to be watched over 500 million times around the world. 

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Mark and Corey take you on a tour of all the new and exciting changes made to the Nurturing Father's Program.

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Raised primarily by his mother and grandmother, Edwin talks about his journey reconciling with his dad, his relationship with his stepfather, and how these relationships impacted him as a man and father.

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In the final part of this 3-part interview, Corey and Mark talk about how the Nurturing Father's Program came to be, the impact it's had, and a look into the future.

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Corey and Mark talk about Mark's journey to becoming a father and how his experience created the motivation to create the Nurturing Father's Program 

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Corey interviews his father, Mark Perlman in a three-part series.

In this episode, they talk about Mark's childhood and the impact his early years had on his work and being a father.

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In this episode, Mark and Corey talk to Mary Ward from North Carolina. Mary talks about the Father Accountability Program, how it is associated with Nurturing Fathers, her inspiration to taking on this work, and much more!

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In this episode Mark and Corey talk to Betty Medina Lichtenstein and Roy Lichtenstein, mother and son who run Enlace de Familias in Massachusetts. They talk about their experiences in working with The Nurturing Father's Program, how the Holyoke community is involved, and share stories that made the largest impact on them working in the program!

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Matt Mullins shares his incredible story on being a father to a daughter as well as maintaining a relationship with his daughter's mother, step-father, and her mother's family. Matt also talks about The Oakland Assistance Chapter and their services as an organization in Oakland County, Michigan!

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Mark and Corey share 10 tips on how you can be a great dad!

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In this episode, Mark and Corey talk to Ola Akinwe about his upbringing in Nigeria, discovering The Nurturing Father's Program, and how he is bringing The Nurturing Father's Program to Nigeria!

Ola Akinwe is a Philanthropreneur, Literacy Activist and Boy-Child Social Revolutionist. He is the founder of Boys Mentoring Advocacy Network (BMAN). A registered Non-Governmental Organization offering mentoring, training, coaching, support system, success development programs to guide boys and adolescent males on their journey to a healthy, caring, respectful and responsible manhood. He has been passionately equipping, inspiring and teaching young minds to love, learn, live and leave a legacy of an exemplary life since 2007. Ola is a NIGERIA COORDINATOR-International Men’s Day and NIGERIA COORDINATOR -World Day Of The Boy-Child. Ola currently serves as the Nigeria Executive- Fathers and Family coalition of America (FFCA) and an affiliate member of Nurturing Father’s Program-NFP (USA

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In this special episode, Mark and Corey discuss a number of important topics to help dads navigate these uncertain times. Topics include: - Stress management - Kids needs, Parents needs - Dads role in virtual schooling - The value of play and fun

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Speaker and relationship coach Denna Babul joins Mark and Corey to talk about the effects of being fatherless on your daughter's personal relationships and offers advice on how they can cope with being fatherless. She also talks about how to navigate being a stand-in father and benefits it could bring!

Denna's Website

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Mark and Corey talk about control in parenting. They discuss asserting control, giving control, and maintaining self-control and how they can all affect your child's problem solving and decision-making skills!

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A long-time friend of Mark's, Carol Lapin, joins us on the podcast to discuss navigating through divorced and blended families. Carol and Corey share their experiences of being in a divorced family.

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Licensed therapist Jenn Moss talks about her experiences in working with the Nurturing Father’s Program, being a single mother, and working with teenagers.

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Mark and Corey talk with Jack Baker about his career and passion for early childhood development and how it led to his involvement in The Nurturing Father's Program. They also discuss some important things to consider as a father while spending more time at home during the coronavirus pandemic!

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The development of a collaborative partnership between The Family Nurturing Center of MA/Nurturing Fathers and The MA Department of Children and Families (DCF) leads to strengthening father involvement and family life throughout the state.  Hear how one NFP graduate and “Ambassador” changed his life and is part of a team to help others do the same.

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John O’Neil Director of the Nurturing Fathers Program at the Family Nurturing Center of Massachusetts joins us for a discussion on the history and role of African-American fathers. * A look back at the history of African-American fathers * How race relates to fatherhood * John’s introduction to the program and journey to becoming a trainer. * The implementation of the Nurturing Father’s program in the African-American community

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In this episode of The Nurturing Father's Podcast, Mark and Corey talk about their participation in the program of visiting state and federal penitentiary prisons. Corey shares a couple of memorable stories of how the program has helped some men be better fathers to their children and staying out of the prison system.

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Broken down to “zero” by a childhood of abuse and abandonment, Joe Johnson tells a powerful story of finding his passion and purpose. He now devotes his life and work to helping men become Nurturing Fathers, and, in doing so, he himself has become a “ten”, a Hope Dealer.

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The guys discuss their special connection with the woods and the many benefits getting out in nature can have on the father/child bond.

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Mark and Corey discuss Kobe’s legacy and the special connection he had with his daughter, Gianna.

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In this episode of The Nurturing Father's Podcast, Mark and Corey talk about the importance of establishing and maintaining rituals when raising children, especially during the holidays!

In This Episode, You’ll Learn…

  • Why rituals are important to your children
  • Some of Mark and Corey’s family rituals
  • The impact of family rituals on Corey

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In this episode of The Nurturing Father's Podcast, Mark and Corey talk about the balance of fatherhood and work. They share some of the ways they have made time for being a father while maintaining the needs of their careers and the positive effect it could have on children from just being present!

In This Episode, You’ll Learn…

  • How work can get in the way of being a father
  • Mark’s experience with his father working long hours
  • There is no right or wrong way to be a present dad
  • Writing a ‘job description’ to be the father you want for your children
  • How Corey handles being a working father and often traveling
  • Making ‘non-negotiables’
  • Avoiding ‘distracted time’
  • Positive Parenting Curriculum

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The discussion of fathering bias continues with Mark and Corey Perlman and Haji Shearer. They also talk about their respective facilitation roles within their own groups and how the Nurturing Fathers Program became a self-facilitated group. Haji also shares a couple of fond stories from his experience in working with these men’s groups!

Episode Highlights

  • How the Nurturing Father’s Program became self-facilitated
  • Creating the Brother’s Healing Circle group
  • Writing a book
  • Some of Haji’s fond memories with the Nurturing Father’s Program

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Mark and Corey are joined on the podcast by Haji Shearer, a facilitator of other men’s groups as well as a participant of the Nurturing Father’s Program! They break down the concept of fathering bias and discuss the continued evolution of breaking away from the parenting stereotypes as a father and connecting with your own emotions.

Episode Highlights

  • Haji’s background and how he became involved with the Nurturing Father’s Program
  • The concept of fathering bias
  • Training yourself to connect with your emotions
  • Stereotypes of dads being a secondary parent

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Mark and Corey discuss their experiences in raising sons and setting an example in dealing with emotions, expressing themselves, showing respect, and much more!

Episode Highlights

  • Discipline with your son
  • Modeling your emotions
  • Honoring your relationships in life
  • Showing respect to their mother
  • Playing with your son
  • The difference in physicality between raising a son and a daughter

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In this episode of The Nurturing Father's Podcast, Mark and Corey focus on being a father to daughters and how it can differ from being a father to a son. Corey shares some examples and experiences of being a father to his daughter.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn…

  • How a relationship with your spouse and other women play a role
  • Creating the Nurturing Father’s Program
  • Establishing equal respect
  • Differing 'currencies' between sons and daughters
  • Resolving conflicts
  • Corey's rituals with his daughter

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Corey talks to Mark about the importance and benefits of being a part of a consistent social community. Mark shares his experience in being a part of his own group for three decades.

Episode Highlights

  • Why it is important to be a part of a community
  • Differences between facilitated and unfacilitated groups
  • Benefits of being in a consistent group for a long period of time
  • Selecting your members
  • Choosing content to discuss
  • Outcomes of participating in a group
  • Doing socials with a group
  • Qualities to look for when starting your own group

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009: Staying Connected With Your Kids Through Divorce

Mark and Corey continue the discussion of going through a divorce as a dad by offering their respective points of view as a father and a son during Mark’s divorce. They also discuss the steps that you could take as a parent to not only maintain but improve your relationship with your children while running into emotional roadblocks when experiencing the separation process, logistics, and moving on to new spouses.

Episode Highlights

  • How divorce has changed in today’s culture
  • Mark’s primary goals for his kids when going through a divorce
  • Choosing to stay near your children or moving away
  • Being physically and emotionally present to answer questions
  • Negating the other parent
  • Creating rituals with your children
  • Dealing with new spouses and becoming a step-parent
  • Time Heals

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Mark and Corey are joined by keynote speaker and author Alan Stein Jr. to talk about his experience in going through a divorce with his three children. They touch on handling the relationship with your separating spouse, managing your time to determine custody, and the impact a divorce can have on your children.

Episode Highlights

  • Setting an example by how you treat your spouse/co-parent
  • Alan as a divorced parent and professional speaker
  • What made Alan’s divorce more amicable and easier
  • There is no normal situation
  • Presenting the decision of divorce to your children
  • Dating after a divorce
  • Maintaining a bond with your children
  • The benefits of seeking professional help

Links and Resources

  • Alan's Website

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007 Part Two: Case Study: No Pow Pows w/ Special Guest: Reginald Dixon

Mark and Corey bring on their first guest on The Nurturing Father’s Podcast to discuss his experience with The Nurturing Father’s Program and how it has affected him both as a father and husband.

Episode Highlights

  • Reggie’s upbringing and how it affected his view of his parents
  • How The Nurturing Father’s Program affected him as a father and husband.

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007 Part One: Deconstructing Discipline

In this episode, Mark and Corey break down the concept of discipline in detail. They also discuss the best ways to provide the most positive and impactful influence through discipline.

Episode Highlights

  • Origin of the word discipline
  • What empowers a child
  • Handling your emotions when enforcing discipline
  • Placing the responsibility on your children and their actions
  • When it is best to enforce discipline

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006: Intentional Attention

In this episode, Mark and Corey ask us a very important question: how much energy are you putting towards positive reinforcement? When your child does something right, are you giving them as much of your attention as you would if they did something wrong? Mark and Corey go through some of the best practices of intentionally giving your child one-on-one attention and the many positive effects it could have on your child.

Episode Highlights

  • We’re more likely to see what we pay more attention to
  • Acting up to get your attention
  • Best practices to providing intentional attention

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005: Discipline and Team Sports

In this episode, Mark and Corey talk about what many aspects of The Nurturing Father’s Program revolve around, and that is discipline. They share with you some of the best practices of effective and positive discipline and break it down to what it discipline really means.

Episode Highlights

  • Origins of the word ‘discipline’
  • Sports, coaches, and discipline
  • Rules
  • The importance of consistency
  • Encouraging what you want to see
  • How quality connection is key
  • When to provide grace

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004: Men and Power

Mark and Corey talk about the effects of how you enforce your power as a parent and a spouse. They state the differences between a power over and power to approach toward discipline enforcement and setting an example for your children

Episode Highlights

  • Bringing home the military authority approach
  • Who’s the loser in the situation?
  • Power over… vs. Power to…
  • Leaving the choice of consequence to your child
  • Setting the roots to your child’s ‘decision-making tree’
  • Ways to make a power to… approach easier

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003: Men and Feelings

Mark and Corey talk about expressing feelings and the roadblocks of culture and stereotypes of men expressing their feelings. They share some examples of when they were challenged with having to confront certain feelings and the effects of how you confront those feelings can have on your children.

Episode Highlights

  • The issue around men and feelings
  • Negative effects of removing yourself from natural emotions
  • Practicing emotions
  • Handling emotions with your children
  • Feelings don’t need to be fixed
  • Benefits of showing emotions

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002: Fathering History and Breaking the Cycle

Mark and Corey discuss the impact of how your father can influence the way you are as a father and how you should break the cycle of bad parenting. Corey also shares his own reflection of Mark as his father.

Episode Highlights

  • We tend to parent how we were raised
  • Reflecting on your father
  • When in doubt, play
  • The simple things tend to stick the most with your kids
  • Breaking the cycle of bad parenting

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001: Welcome to The Nurturing Father’s Podcast

In this debut episode of The Nurturing Father’s Podcast, hosts Mark and Corey Perlman introduce themselves and The Nurturing Father’s Program. As well as what topics they plan to cover throughout the podcast and discuss what it means to be a nurturing father.

Highlights

  • Introduction to podcast and the hosts
  • Creating the Nurturing Father’s Program
  • What made Mark re-evaluate himself as a father
  • Differences of parenting culture between the 1970’s and now
  • What to expect from this podcast

Resources

  • Nurturing Father's Program Website
  • Mark Perlman Bio
  • Corey Perlman Bio

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