Halo! This month I decided to finally get started on my solo podcasting career and recorded a hella long episode all on my own. Feedback would be highly appreciated! (Time stamps below.)

Okay, so dive in. I'm pretty happy (although not terribly excited) by the drama fare we have right now. My one hot take is about Key to the Phoenix Heart.

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Let me know your thoughts on my livestream recording plans or join the discord discussion about renaming this podcast via links below!

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TIME STAMPS:

00:00:00 Podcast housekeeping and pre-recording jitters.

00:08:50 Drama talk starts here!

00:13:55 Spooky in Love

00:21:26 Blossoms of Power

00:36:54 See You At Work Tomorrow

00:51:24 Key to the Phoenix Heart

01:09:14 Dream To You

01:20:10 Love For You

01:27:23 Apartment Job

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Anisa and Paroma and diving into almost three months worth of drama watching. Brace yourselves!

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Perfect Crown ending video: https://youtu.be/3LSQ7BJ2gMs?si=rDRR3YG0GJhlqV0p

Yumi's Cells 3 ending: https://youtu.be/XWGbjaMTdvk?si=DgojvExUuU4ltJ-w

Teach You A Lesson (Hana from Korea): https://youtu.be/CSZE-I4FOCw?si=ZUPeQQK1Rv7k2eTv

Dramas Mentioned:

Reborn Rookie

Dazzling

Blossom

Sold out on you

My Royal Nemesis

Perfect Crown

Yumis cells 3

Filing for love

Wonderfools

Pursuit of Jade

Zhan Zhao adventures

The First Jasmine

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Anisa convinces Paroma to watch Heart Pairing - a reality dating show with real, normal people, with some extremely sweet and romantic story line (restored Anisa's faith in romance!). She also contextualizes why Heart Pairing is better than a lot of other dating reality shows in the market. (Low on toxicity.)

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This August, after 9 years, Dramas Over Flowers will be - as Khadija would like us to call it - reincarnating.

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Anisa and Paroma recorded this episode as Ramadan was starting in February. So you will get some dated references. (Like them wondering if IU and Byeon Woo-seok will have any chemistry in the upcoming modern day prince drama (Yes, yes they do!))

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:58 No Tail To Tell (spoilers till ep 2)

21:06 Undercover Miss Hong (spoilers till ep 1)

36:55 Idol I (full review)

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Korean-Japanese crossover dramas are a phenomenon that's building steam for a few years. Taking a look at the shows we have till now with Frabby (from crabbyfordramas.wordpress.com).

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TIMESTAMPS:

Dramas as they first come up in the discussion:

00:00 Intro 06:00 First Love (2022) 08:45 Eye Love You (2024) 10:12 What Comes After Love (2024) 15:13 Romantics Anonymous (2025) 16:57 Kimbap and Onigiri (2026) 23:10 Winter Sonata (2002) 26:13 Marry My Husband Japan (2025) 30:30 Can This Love Be Translated? (2026) 32:40 Will You Be My Manager? (2025) 45:53 Unnatural (2018) 46:17 Full time wife escapist (2016) 47:55 Learning to Love (2025) 54:24 Orange Days (2004) 1:01:04 Friends (2002) 1:04:35 Soul Mate (2026)

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In Part 2 of our 2025 wrap-up, we talk about major Dramaland news stories, and each of our favorite (and not-so-favorite) K-dramas of the year.

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Kim Soo-hyun press conference clip about Kim Yoo-jung

DOF's favorite OSTs of 2025

Oneus Kpop Demon Hunters covers: Golden, Your Idol, Soda Pop

Sam Sanders' interview with a songwriter on Kpop Demon Hunters

Video essay on the heroine's journey: Why Women Need Their Own Myth

TIMESTAMPS:

00:01:59 News

00:36:34 Our Year in Dramas

01:48:11 Dramaland things that made us mad

01:59:45 Special interest corner

Shows mentioned in order of first appearance: The Great Shaman Ga Doo Shim, The Moon Embracing the Sun, Can You Hear My Heart, The Queen’s Classroom, Kiss Sixth Sense, Signal, Culinary Class Wars, Genie, Make a Wish, The Price of Confession, You and Everything Else, Queen Mantis, Love Scout, Study Group, Unmasked, Nine Puzzle, Law in the City, Spring of Youth, Undercover High School, Spirit Fingers, Pro Bono, Smile You, Mobius, Marry My Husband Japan, A Dream Within a Dream, Resident Playbook, The Winning Try, When Destiny Brings the Demon, The Potato Lab, Romantics Anonymous, Moon River, The Best Thing, Love in the Clouds, Our Unwritten Seoul, Ms Incognito, The Witch, Nice to Not Meet You, Doubt

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Dramaland changes every year and 2025 was no different. Let's talk trends in productions, biggest hits and misses, and what we have been doing and watching outside K-dramas. We'll be back with Part 2 really soon, where we get into our most memorable dramas of the year.

[This was live recorded for patreon in December. We have split and edited the episodes down for our podcast feed. You can still find the entire recording with video and audio chat on our patreon page.]

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Catching up

00:20:54 Trends in dramaland

00:52:45 K-Variety

Dramas mentioned in this episode (in order): Would you marry me?, Perfect Marriage Revenge, Marry My Husband, The First Night with the Duke, Spirit Fingers, Study Group, Dear X, When the stars gossip, Genie make a wish, Hwarang, Unmasked, Trigger, Squid Game, Descendants of the Sun, Faith, Legend, Healer, Crash Landing on You, Lovely Runner, My Youth, Moon River, The Devil’s Plan, My Sibling’s Romance, Better Late than Single, Single’s Inferno, Mind the Noona Gap, Terrace House, Run Jin (Jonathan episode), Culinary Class Wars, Are Your Sure?, Keon’s Bizarre BnB, Jae friends, IU’s Pallette, My Little Old Boy (ep 471).

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Anisa and Paroma yak for a long time about all the dramas we've been watching - mostly K-dramas but also a few C-dramas. Plus we discuss the state of streaming, and the return of mid-budget dramas and old school tropes.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:04:47 Dear X

00:12:10 You and Everything Else

00:22:28 Would You Marry Me

00:41:31 Last Summer

00:53:24 Dynamite Kiss

01:20:25 Bon Appetit Your Majesty

01:44:50 Love in the Clouds

01:52:19 Fated Hearts

01:57:29 Love's Ambition

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Our November Yak covers a bunch of dramas we just started and one drama we needed to talk in depth about - Kim Eun-suk's Genie, Make a Wish. Join Paroma and Anisa as we get back into talking at you for 90 minutes again.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Hello!

01:20 Ms Incognito

10:30 My Troublesome Star

18:10 Romantics Anonymous

33:25 Typhoon Family

35:09 Oh My Ghost Client

43:26 Make a Wish, Genie

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We talk about Anisa's grand theory of murder rom-coms - why they exist, when they work and when they don't, and what their rise means for K-drama trends.

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Halo! We are back with a new yak after a break. Anisa and Paroma catch you up on what we have been watching lately; some recommendations and some stay-aways! We also unnecessarily add to the hype around Kpop demon hunters with our own admiring words.

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"Keeping you obsessed": Netflix's demons vs. hunters movie captures the mystical allure of KPop [Link]
Korean food deast: From kimbap to ramyeon, but hold the kimchi [Link]
Jinu's seriously derpy tiger origin story [Link]
Paroma's video on the two versions of Marry My Husband [Link]
Interview with the writer and director of First Night with the Duke [Link]
Explanation of some Korean in KPop Demon Hunters [Link]

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:54 KPop Demon Hunters

00:32:08 Law and the City

00:49:23 Head Over Heels

01:00:26 First Night with the Duke

01:27:16 Marry My Husband (Japan)

01:43:29 Second Shot at Love

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Part 2 of our year end yak is finally here! This is the episode where we go over the annual listener survey we do to find out what your drama year has been like. Which genres did you enjoy the most, what new dramas did you try out, what new difficulties have you faced accessing your favourite show? We talk about all of that with pie charts and laughter.

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Anisa and Paroma pop in before our next installment of the Year-End Yak to chat about currently airing dramas, including pretty much a full Spoiled Yak about Love Scout, which we ADORED. Paroma convinces Anisa to watch My Dearest Nemesis, Anisa laments the wasted potential of Melo Movie, and more.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:03:11 Love Scout

00:11:59 Love Scout SPOILERS

00:46:52 The Potato Lab

00:56:36 My Dearest Nemesis

01:12:17 Melo Movie

01:36:49 The Trauma Code: Heroes on Call

01:47:40 The First Frost

02:15:37 Fireworks of My Heart

02:21:27 Filter

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In Part 1 of our (extremely belated) Year-End Yak for 2024, we talk Personal Gogumas - the awards the three of us want to give to the dramas we loved in 2024.

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TIME STAMPS:

(These are questions we asked each other)

0:07:36 What’s a drama that surprised you?

0:46:20 A drama I'll remember 2024 for

0:54:15 An OST that stayed with us

1:03:21 Last minute watch that was totally worth it

1:07:00 A drama that got some wrong headed critique?

1:16:33 Mid or low budget drama you loved

1:22:43 Actors you want to highlight from 2024

1:35:45 A character that stayed with you all year/since you watched them

1:51:10 Most long-awaited comeback

1:59:46 Favorite couple/favorite romance

2:05:05 Actor that did the MOST in 2024

2:07:55 It started so well

2:11:49 Well that ended better than I expected

2:13:54 Two dramas you’ll recommend to your co-hosts?

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Anisa and Paroma yak about dramas they finished recently.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:46 Face Me (final thoughts)

00:20:31 Dongjae, the Good or the Bastard (final thoughts)

00:27:27 When the Phone Rings (midway thoughts)

00:36:10 The Trunk (final thoughts)

01:05:57 Jeongnyeon: The Star Is Born (midway thoughts)

01:13:20 Brewing Love (final thoughts)

01:27:52 A Virtuous Business (midway thoughts)

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Anisa and Paroma have a little yak about some new dramas we've sampled, and others we've just barely tasted.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:04 Love Your Enemy

00:16:39 Mr Plankton

00:21:22 When the Phone Rings

00:34:37 Face Me

00:49:29 Tell Me that You Love Me

00:58:01 The Trunk speculation

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We are bringing back What's Up In Dramaland as bi-weekly youtube live streams. A newsy episode that covers Korean entertainment including casting news, upcoming dramas, catching up on industry conversations. (This is a one time livestream audio upload. Please check our youtube channel for future WUID episodes!)

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TIME STAMPS:

00:00:00 lengthy intro

00:06:05 episode begins

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Anisa and Paroma discuss their final thoughts on recently ended romcoms Love Next Door, No Gain No Love and Serendipity's Embrace, plus some first impressions of the Korean adaptation of Go Ahead and wacky romance DNA Lover.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:10:38 Family by Choice

00:21:30 Love Next Door

00:35:19 No Gain No Love

01:15:35 DNA Lover

01:31:58 Serendipity's Embrace

01:48:59 Culinary Class Wars

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In this episode we discuss the many popular re-unions of famous romantic and non-romantic actor couples. We ask why these re-unions happen, do they ever achieve the popularity of the original project, and why is there often a distinct shift in genres? (You can watch the video version of this episode at the link below).

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Paroma is joined by Deepanjana in a mission to express their deep feelings about No Gain No Love without spoiling every single scene in the drama. It was a challenge. This episode was recorded after the first 6 out of 12 episodes had aired.

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51:22 - Warning for spoilers

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Saya and Anisa have a quick yak about our first impressions of two currently airing dramas, and then Anisa confesses to having seen some Run BTS.

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TIMESTAMPS:

02:19 Cinderella at 2am

15:22 Love Next Door

31:56 Run BTS (a sampling)

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Hi, we come back to you (pretty soon for us) with another long yak! Yes, Anisa is in this one. 😄

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00:01:24 Bad-memory eraser

00:17:47 My sweet mobster

00:42:57 The auditors

01:04:02 Dreaming of a freaking fairy-tale

01:14:57 Miss night and day

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Saya takes Paroma on an epic journey through her recent watchlist.

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"Silenced Beauty" video essay on Seolhyun in Running Man.

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:00 Jinny's Kitchen

00:19:22 Top Management

00:27:25 Good Day To Be a Dog

00:34:00 Miraculous Brothers

00:39:53 Moving (ending spoilers beware!)

00:49:15 Begins =/= Youth

00:58:51 MYSTERY DRAMA no okay just kidding - Ripe Town

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Here are our final thoughts and theories on the one drama all three of us watched with equal fervour.

Joining us for this final journey into the world of Piggyback Sunjae and Run are friends of the podcast, Hanah and Sarah.

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Paroma's video on time traveling Im Sol: Link

TIMESTAMP:

0:05:14 - Audience response

0:08:35 - Production budget

0:12:25 - Heart eyes for the drama

0:14:19 - Taesung vs the serial killer

0:18:31 - Sunjae remembering the alternate timelines

0:27:41 - Sol driving the story action

0:37:00 - On how Sunjae died in timeline 1

0:42:15 - Sol’s brother & best friend

0:45:29 - Erasing Sol’s disability struggles

0:50:22 - Fate demands a life

0:59:05 - 33yo Sol falling for a teen

1:10:54 - Only one Im Sol got a happy ending

1:22:43 - Grandma has the best line about memories

1:26:51 - Sunjae’s choice & final thoughts

Running list of dramas mentioned:

W: Two worlds

Her Private Life

Familiar wife

Hometown CCC

Will Love In Spring (CDrama)

Marry My Husband

Nine: Nine Times Travel

Someday Or One Day

Go Back Spouses

Rooftop Prince

Dark (German thriller)

Goblin

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Don't worry, this is NOT a stealth goodbye podcast! In this episode, we talk about why we fall out of love with fandoms that we once loved so much, and what makes some stick for life. (You could call it the date, marry, kill episode? Spoiler alert, we marry K-dramas.)

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Anisa and Paroma gush about the first half of currently airing time-travel romance K-drama Lovely Runner, which we are LOVING. The first 40 minutes are free of major spoilers!

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Anisa's Queen of Tears first impressions review

TIMESTAMP:

00:40:27 Spoilers

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In this episode, we talk about how K-dramas became a highly profitable export long before the entry of streaming platforms in the mid 2010s. This is a story of a nation's economic crisis, the creation of a unique opportunity, and a two decade long struggle for air wave supremacy in East Asia.

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TIMELINE OF DRAMAS MENTIONED:

1997 IMF crisis

1997 What is love all about (NBC)

2000 Autumn In My Heart (KBS)

2002 Winter Sonata (KBS)

2007 The Legend (MBC)

2013 My Love From the Star (SBS)

2016 Descendants of the Sun (KBS)

2016 Signal (tvN)

2016 Hwayugi (Korean Odyssey) (tvN)

2016 THAAD missile crisis/China bans K-ent

LINKS MENTIONED:

CedarBough Saeji's twitter thread on why South Korean academics rarely contribute to international journals.

Living document of sources here.

LIGHT READING 😌:

Korean Dramas Adopt Pre-Produced Format to Mixed Results (article)

The Reason SBS Missed Out on "Descendants of the Sun" and "Signal" (article)

Romantic blockbusters: the co-commissioning of Korean network-developed K-dramas as ‘Netflix originals’ (journal)

TIMESTAMP:

04:41 - How Kdramas came into existence

11:18 - How dramas used to be made

21:54 - Start of the digital age and entry of iQiyi

27:40 - Dramas begin to get expensive

31:32 - Watershed: Descendants of the Sun

34:40 - China bans Korean entertainment over THAAD

36:51 - Economics of terrestrial vs cable channels

47:12 - Netflix knocks (cliffhanger)

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We are back with a long yak on three dramas we started 2024 with: Doctor Slump, Marry My Husband, and Like Flowers In Sand.

This episode was recorded on 11th February. Our feelings on these dramas have stayed the same (with Doctor Slump getting special love for staying so reliably warm till the end).

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's Doctor Slump post.

Support Gaza through the Palestine Children's Relief Fund here.

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:50 - Doctor Slump

00:45:57 - Like Flowers In Sand

01:06:15 - Marry My Husband

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Awards season is the perfect time for us to share our review of Past Lives, our favorite film of last year. Saya, Anisa and our friend Yunah talk about why this movie's meditations on grief, love, diaspora and selfhood spoke to us so deeply. (We recorded this at the end of last year.)

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Overall thoughts

20:39 Spoilers

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The 5th Annual Goguma Awards have landed! Your votes have been tallied and the results range from unexpected to unsurprising, all of which we dissect with glee. Get your tea and biscuits, it's long!

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Actor Jin: The Handsome Hotelier

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:00 - Introducing the Goguma Awards

00:02:46 - The Classic Gogumas

00:17:47 - Your Top 3 Dramas of 2023

00:25:27 - The Wild Gogumas

01:11:15 - Create Your Own: Listener Awards!

01:49:36 - Patreon Roll Call of Love and Appreciation 💗

01:55:08 - Love note to all our listeners 💕

02:00:46 - Predictions for 2024

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Episode 160: Six Years Of Podcasting About K-dramas! Opening your mailbag ✨

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The Year-End Yak is here! Or Part 1 anyway, where we talk about what K-dramas did this year, and how we felt about them. Goguma Awards coming in Part 2!

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's excellent 2023 Wrap for Film Companion

Paroma's My Demon Halfway Review (Spoilers)

K-drama Research Institute's video essay We Need to Talk About Netflix K-dramas

Saya and Paroma's new BTS YouTube Channel

Jae-Ha Kim's article Rest in Peace, Lee Sun-kyun

TIMESTAMP:

00:04:17 2023 K-drama trends

00:50:07 Saya, Anisa and Paroma's personal year in dramas

01:25:16 Notable podcast moments!

1:37:06 And some heartbreak.

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Just Saya popping in to share her thoughts on an assortment of dramas: a mixture of bright and dark, exquisite and questionable, therapeutic and aggravating. The tl;dl (?) being: My Demon is darkbright and exquisite, Death's Game is just dark, Park's Marriage Contract is bright and aggravating, and Welcome to Samdal-ri is therapeutic, bright, and funnier than it should be.

Content warning for discussion of suicide in Death's Game and Welcome to Samdal-ri. Take care and skip if needed by using the timestamps below.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

An interview with a haenyeo female diver

Women of the Sea: Diving with the Haenyeo of Jeju

Paroma's latest video essays:

Twinkling Watermelon never explains its time travel & here's why we don't care

Bonus: My Demon Halfway Review (Spoilers): Hey! Song Kang can do romance!

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:29 My Demon 1-4

00:19:57 Death's Game Part 1

00:32:28 Death's Game Spoiler section

00:35:33 The Story of Park's Marriage Contract 1-8 (bit spoilery but who cares)

00:49:00 Welcome to Samdal-ri 1-6

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Episode 146: 2022 in Dramaland: Our Year In Dramas (Year-End Yak) - enjoy a throwback while we work on the new one!

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Perfect Marriage Revenge is a drama that kept all its promises: revenge! marriage! perfect! We revel in how the drama revels in its story, with special props to writer Im Seo-ra for some of the best writing in dramaland this year.

SPOILERS EVERYWHERE, BEWARE BEWARE!

Feat. beloved and returning guest, Zaynab, who does not want to be found.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Our new youtube channel, Bangtan Over Flowers.

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Episode 149: K-Drama Screenwriting (Part 1): The Value of Tropes & Why Second Halves Plummet

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Saya and Anisa talk about 8(!) dramas, including writer Park Hre-ryun's newest Castaway Diva, gorgeous romance melodrama Call it Love, and the actually perfect Perfect Marriage Revenge. Lots of time travel, revenge and contract relationships in this one, so you know we're both happy campers.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:01:00 Castaway Diva

00:12:24 Spoilers for Castaway 1-4

00:21:38 Daily Dose of Sunshine

00:31:09 Twinkling Watermelon

00:46:39 Vigilante

00:56:59 Call it Love

01:11:06 Nine: Nine Times Time Travel

01:20:43 A very long Park Hyung-shik detour

01:26:46 The Real has Come

01:35:16 Perfect Marriage Revenge

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Episode 163: A Long Yak on Destined with You, My Lovely Liar and Titanic

Episode 160: 6th Anniversary Mailbag Special

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Kick back with us on a diatribe filled episode where we talk about women written by men, unearned forgiveness, and the ethics of love potions.

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LINK:

Listen to the trailer of The Broadside (new podcast hosted by Anisa)

TIMESTAMP:

00:09:00 - Titanic (Spoilers)

00:19:00 - Women written by men (and also, Dev Anand's C.I.D.)

00:28:00 - My Lovely Liar (Spoilers)

01:14:00 - Destined With You (Spoilers up to episode 6)

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Episode 160: ICYMI listen to our anniversary mailbag episode

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We are joined by kfangurl on an ultimate fan trip episode where we deep dive into a cult classic time slip romance that set new standards in storytelling for all of us. This drama has also been recently remade into the Korean, A Time Called You, which we discussed in episode 161.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's twitter post on face blurring

the fangirl verdict blog

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:52 - Introducing Someday or One Day: plot, characters and cast

00:15:11 - How is Someday or One Day quintessentially Taiwanese?

00:31:09 - How did you feel towards Yunru?

00:44:25 - Were Yu Xuan and Zi Wei too happy/too perfect?

00:49:50 - Would you change any plot points?

01:01:45 - The 2022 film

01:11:34 - The drama's ending

01:21:57 - Speculating on the K-drama remake, A Time Called You

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Episode 161: A Time Called You

Episode 96: Kfangurl interview

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Anisa, Paroma and Anisa's sister Zaynab talk about A Time Called You, remake of hit Taiwanese drama Someday or One Day, how it compares to the original, and the eternal question of the adaptation: why?

Catch our spoiler review of Someday or One Day next week!

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TIMESTAMP:

0:00 General thoughts on A Time Called You

31:00 SPOILERS for both the original and the remake

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Welcome to another anniversary Mailbag episode! We asked for your thoughts on dramas, on us, anything at all, and you gave us a lot to talk about!

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LINKS MENTIONED:

The Hollywood writers’ strike: Vox explains

LA Times article about Netflix's affect on Korea Entertainment Industry

Burn it Down excerpt

RELATED EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

The burning sun special, episode 37

On representation, episodes 65 and episode 66.

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:43 - Our emotional safe space

00:09:00 - What does it mean to be podcasting for 6 years?

Your messages:

00:24:00 - Movie directors flocking to dramas now that they're prestige

00:55:00 - Objectifying child actors and young K-pop trainees

01:13:00 - A listener recommendation: Not Others

00:16:00 - What tropes do we want to see explored more in dramaland?

01:28:00 - How have we lasted 6 years?

01:37:00 - How seasonal shows differ from single season K-dramas?

01:45:00 - Did the Burning Sun incident change our view of the K-drama industry?

01:57:00 - Our auto-watch actors?

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We bring you another long yak this months where we talk about two new dramas and final thoughts on three completed ones.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

The anime Paroma mentioned: How A Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom (on Netflix)

TIMESTAMP:

(No spoilers = NS)

0:00:40 - My Lovely Liar (NS)

0:21:08 - Behind Your Touch (Ep 1 Spoilers)

0:42:08 - Maturity of social discussion

0:46:06 - See You In My 19th Life (Final Thoughts/NS)

1:08:54 - ... 19th Life (Ending Spoilers)

1:22:15 - Little Women (NS)

1:35:13 - Fruits Baskets (NS) & Final Patter

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Episode Y: LINK

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It's August, and that means it's our 6th anniversary! We're doing a special Mailbag Episode to celebrate, so send us your questions, your stories and your comments by August 19th.

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Saya and Paroma pick apart Our Blooming Youth and pore over its bests and not-so-best things. Bests include: Park Hyung-shik and Jeon So-nee. Dissatisfactions include: plot lapses, villains with unconvincing motives.

Erratum: Saya's first Park Hyung-shik drama was Nine (2013).

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TIMESTAMP:

00:01:52 When fandom doesn't feel the way you do

00:07:43 Character development vs. plot

00:14:20 Unwinding the villains

00:23:56 Heir vs. King vs. Court

00:32:58 A Crown Prince needs his besties. ALL of them. And we need Myung-jin.

00:41:49 The writing of Jae-yi

00:52:51 Born to rule?

01:02:09 Other tortured crown prince dramas

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Episode 151: Our Blooming Youth is bringing back memories of Park Hyung-sik in Hwarang (Spoiler-free first impressions)

Episode 138: The Red Sleeve: A king's favourite concubine who belonged to herself

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We are back with a long yak after a very long while. Settle in as we discuss two new romances and one completed romcom with a side serving of murder!

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's video about kdramas badly solving classism [here]

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:38 - King The Land (first 6 episode overview)

00:34:21 - See You In My 19th Life (first 7 episode overview)

00:52:45 - Crash Course In Romance (complete drama spoiler discussion)

01:32:58 - While You Were Sleeping (briefly convincing Anisa to watch it)

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Episode 156: Doctor Cha

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In this Spoiled Yak, Anisa and Paroma review Dr. Cha and talk about why dramas about a middle-aged woman getting a new lease on life are so enjoyable - and mention some other favorites in this genre.

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TIME STAMPS:

00:00:00 Dr. Cha Spoiler Review

01:03:40 A wild Kwon Min-woo appears! (Yes, this is an Extraordinary Attorney Woo reference)

01:14:40 Other dramas in this genre we loved!

01:15:24 Twenty Again

01:19:00 Mystery Queen

01:22:42 SKY Castle

01:24:35 18 Again

01:25:54 And a lightning round: Romance is a Bonus Book, Perfume, Hello, Me!, Search: WWW, Mine, Go Back Couple, Familiar Wife

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Episode 155: Bora! Deborah Spoiled Yak

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Bora! Deborah was mostly frustrating yet sometimes joyous to watch. So we do a needlessly long deep dive into why it gripped us so hard.

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Mattie Kahn's excellent Vox piece on Viktor Frankl [here] (the real source of Bora's "waxing" quote)

My own short piece on why using such an anecdote without context is harmful [here]

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:54 - Intro

00:09:21 - Why we couldn't stop watching

00:16:00 - Episode 1

00:26:25 - Yeon Bora

00:33:11 - Episode 3

00:37:59 - The great breakup

00:42:11 - Yu-jung & Ji-woo

00:51:41 - Exploring grief

01:00:43 - Episode 4

01:08:29 - Episode 5-7

01:11:57 - Lee Su-hyuk

01:24:04 - Episode 8

01:31:04 - Episode 9

01:41:32 - Sang-jin & Uri

01:51:09 - Episode 10-12

02:05:15 - Episode 13-14

02:18:33 - Jin-ho & Bomi

02:38:54 - Closing

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Episode153: Crash Landing On You and the unbearable sadness of partition

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Saya and Paroma went to see BTS' concert film, Yet to Come in Cinemas, which took place in Busan on 23 October 2022 and released in cinemas worldwide in February 2023. We talk about the boys, the music, the fans, and our good and bad experiences at the cinema. Check out the official trailer here.

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ScreenX trailers: Run BTS version, Dynamite version

One of our favourite performances: Mic Drop & Run BTS Stage CAM @ BTS “Yet To Come” in BUSAN.

Yet To Come (The Most Beautiful Moment) Official MV

TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:42 Why did BTS put on a free concert?

00:08:07 Comparing the different release formats: ScreenX vs 4DX

00:31:24 How a good crowd makes a concert (ft. our first 'Yoongi Marry Me!'), and Everybody Hates Teenage Girls

00:40:28 Our favourite songs ft. BTS eating the stage; lifting the spectre of enlistment, the struggle to be acknowledged as artists

00:53:35 Seriously, a good crowd makes a concert.

00:59:10 Reflecting on our BTS journey, and comparing the different ways Paroma and Saya engage with their interests/fandoms.

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Episode 139: BTS: The Cost of Authenticity

Episode 140: Youth MT: The Reality of Korean Variety (Ft. In the Soop: Friendcation)

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We finally talk about why Crash Landing on You is SO GOOD. And we discuss Anisa's master's thesis on media portrayals of love across the borders created by partition - and why CLOY's depiction of that yearning is the best we've ever seen.

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LINKS:

Anisa's thesis, Visualizing the Fractured Nation: Narratives of (Un)belonging in 21st Century Indian and South Korean Media

Interview with Park Ji-eun’s co-writer Kwak Moon-wan, a North Korean defector, plus answers to more fan questions

Reunions of separated North and South Korean families

Listen to the Empire podcast's excellent episode on the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre

Watch the video that made Anisa ship Binnie & Jinnie back in 2020, before we knew they were real

TIMESTAMPS:

00:01:00 Why CLOY is one of a kind

00:28:00 Villain Oh Man-seok vs. Big Bad North Korea

00:38:00 Comparing The King: 2 Hearts and Crash Landing on You

01:02:00 How CLOY tackles the impossibility of a happy ending

01:10:00 Saya and Paroma share their favorite parts of Anisa's thesis

01:21:00 Hyun Bin and Son Ye-jin's IRL happy ending ❤︎

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Episode 137: We discuss the previous generation's gateway drama, Boys Over Flowers in its many iterations

Episode 145: Our Spoiled Yak on The Interest of Love

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Here's a special sneak preview of something we've been doing on Patreon: The Lone Yak! We take a moment (or a few) to tell you what's on our minds, whether about a drama we've been watching, general K-drama thoughts, or life! This episode contains Saya talking about becoming a new version of yourself in public, Paroma talks about when we defend our faves (and don't) and why, and Anisa reviews the first half of Crash Course in Romance - and talks a little about murder rom-coms.

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If you've missed Park Hyung-sik in a sageuk or if you have a fondness for tortured Crown Princes, we have the drama for you.

As a pleasant surprise, you also get a capable heroine with her own heroine arc in the story. As Saya puts it, Jeon So-nee might actual be the real protagonist of this show!

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In Part 2 of our discussion on K-drama screenwriting, we talk about Kim Eun-suk, whether great acting can rescue a bad script, why dramaland has so many serial killers, and much more!

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We recorded this episode during a livestream discussion in 2022. If you here us speaking about comments, it's from the attendees of the stream. In Part 2, you can hear some of their voices in the final segment of the show as they jump in to give their own takes on drama writing.

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There is something special about the way K-dramas are written beyond the formulas and tropes. In this episode we talk about the way dialogue, story acts, and unique writing styles collide to make our favourite dramas.

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Understanding deeply that nobody wants a brutal analysis of this candyfloss, I have stuck to talking about two things that I found really interesting:

(ONE) how the drama tries to equate the female lead's wariness of men to the male lead's shallow beliefs and hostile reactions to women... and then undermines its own thesis

(TWO) how the male leads in romantic k-dramas go through an emotional journey, whereas the female leads go through social ones

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In Part 3 of our year end yak, friends of the podcast visit to give us a heads up on dramas that have gone unnoticed or underappreciated in 2022.

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01:48 - Our Blues (Frabby and Yunah)

12:12 - Kiss Sixth Sense (Anja)

15:27 - Summer Strike (Just Me)

17:53 - Bloody Heart (Mimi)

22:00 - Law Cafe (Minal)

24:28 - Love All Play (Minal)

29:11 - Pachinko (Tina)

33:38 - Green Mother’s Club (Abdul)

38:25 - All of Us Are Dead (Cedarbough Saeji)

43:17 - Shining For One Thing (Kfangurl)

49:20 - Gratitude & Shoutouts!

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Episode 145: Year End Yak Part 2

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In Part 2 of our annual Year-End Yak, we first give out our personal Goguma Awards, and then we chat about our current relationship with k-dramaland.

Part 3 (finale!) coming out next week.

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Paroma's YouTube Channel

TIMESTAMP:

ANISA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

00:01:15 - Lee Min-ki Award For Being Lee Min-ki

00:02:31 - Sight For Sore hearts

00:05:04 - Real, Real, Real House Envy

00:06:55 - Most Unfulfilled Yearning

PAROMA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

00:08:13 - Best Heartless Assassin With An Adorable Face

00:10:30 - The Most Loveable Villain

00:11:34 - Biggest Sinner We Forgave

00:12:36 - The Second Lead Who Second Lead-ed Till the End

00:15:03 - The Most Die For Your Workplace Drama

00:16:07 - The OTP Break-Up I Will Defend To Death

SAYA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

00:18:45 - Too Netflix Couldn’t Do It 00:26:23 - You Made Me Stay

00:32:04 - You Could Not Save This Drama

00:37:41 - Enemies To Brothers

00:42:09 - Biggest Waste of Star Power

OUR DRAMA YEAR

00:47:05 - Paroma

00:51:30 - Anisa

00:55:46 - Saya

PERSONALLY RELEVANT DRAMAS

01:12:35 - Anisa

01:26:41 - Paroma

01:36:44 - Saya

01:56:20 - Very odd similarities amongst dramas in 2022

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Episode 144: Year End Yak (Part 1)

Episode 146: Year End Yak (Part 3) (Upcoming!)

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Anisa, Paroma and guest Frabby chat about the miseries and joys of relationship melodrama The Interest of Love, which gently, brilliantly destroyed us every week—and we loved it all. Expect major spoilers in this one!

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Read Frabby's wonderful reviews of The Interest of Love.

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Episode 137: F4 Thailand and the Boys Over Flowers Extended Universe, where Frabby joined us to talk about the many adaptations of Dramaland's favorite story

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In Part 1 of our massive (as usual) Year-End Yak, we talk first about trends in K-drama and our general thoughts on 2022. Then we break down the winners of our Audience Gogumas (some silly, some Very Important). Part 2 coming soon!

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:57 Trends and general thoughts

00:58:36 4th Annual Goguma Awards!

01:03:11 Craziest Premise/Best Execution

01:03:37 Best First Half/Worst Second Half

01:04:17 Most Iconic Heroine

01:05:11 Best Hero ("You nice, keep going")

01:06:36 Peak Nostalgia

01:07:27 My Second Life Was My Best Life

01:09:27 Take Pity on Your Manager

01:19:14 Most Sincere Depiction of Grief

01:14:39 Best Old-School Comfort Watch

01:16:50 Top of Their Game Award

01:19:44 Snuck in and Stole the Show

01:23:27 Most Evolved Actor (or: Finally, Growth!)

01:28:35 Most Epic OTP

01:32:37 Soundtrack Played on Repeat

01:37:55 Create Your Own Award

01:50:26 Most Disliked Drama

01:58:18 Top 3 Dramas

LINKS:

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas cover by V (Tae-hyung) of BTS

Frabby's review of Love is for Suckers

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Episode 143: Shooting Stars: Wholesome Romance with Problematic Subplots

Episode 121: 2021 in Dramaland: Year-End Yak Part 1 (Trends)

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Shooting Stars (aka sh**ting stars) starring Lee Sung-kyung and Kim Young-dae was one of the more entertaining dramas of 2022. We liked it a lot, but it also deserved all the thrashing it got online on certain subplots in the story. We talk about all of it in this spoiled yak.

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Paroma's reasons to watch Shooting Stars [Video Link]

TIMESTAMP:

00:30:31 - the racism problem

00:38:48 - the workplace harassment scene

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Anisa sits down with Paroma to convince her to watch If You Wish Upon Me, an unexpectedly healing drama with a wonderful ensemble cast and moving depictions of grief, redemption and reconciliation. Ji Chang-wook is finally in the kind of role he deserves, Choi Soo-young brings her unique brand of incandescence, Sung Dong-il is giving FULL DAD, and Anisa can't help but be reminded of SNSD's Genie every time she sees the title. Because, this meta was clearly intentional.

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Vote in the Fourth Annual Goguma Awards!

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Episode 120: Listen to us rave about how much we loved Choi Soo-young in Run On

Episode 140: Listen to us squee over Ji Chang-wook, exemplary but awkward sunbae, in Youth MT/Young Actors Retreat

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This episode started as a spoilery discussion of Arsenal Military Academy (a 2019 chinese drama set in the early 20th century, starring Bai Lu and Xu Kai), but became a longer conversation on the history of imperialism and china's use of underdog stories to ignite national pride. But it's still a dramas over flowers episode, so expect lots of fangirling and explosive laughter.

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KOBO PLUS is available in Italy | Canada | Australia | New Zealand

The music video that convinced Paroma to watch Arsenal Military Academy

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Episode 130: Cross-fire (spoiler free) & discussion of rise in gaming cdramas

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In this second part of our conversation about celebrity, authenticity and Korean variety, we talk about the miracle of entertainment that is Youth MT, and the lovely, warm experience of watching In the Soop: Friendcation. (And its 2017 ajusshi predecessor, Dragon Club.) Spoiler warning: You may want to catch a few episodes of Youth MT before you listen, because we discuss specific scenes—and also because it is SO GOOD.

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BTS's Jin and Suga interview on You Quiz

Saya's essay about In the Soop: Friendcation

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A beginner friendly discussion of K-pop sensation BTS and how idol groups connect deeply with fans by opening up about their vulnerabilities. Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: https://www.speakpipe.com/DramasOverFlowers (Recording Page) MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 138: Thttps://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/138 (he Red Sleeve) Episode 137: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/137 (F4 Thailand and the Boys Over Flowers Extended Universe) NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! PATRONS: SPECIAL THANK YOU to https://my.captivate.fm/dramasoverflowers.net/patrons (our beloved patrons) for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Join our Patreon here)! ❤︎ You can also support us by leaving a review on your podcast app, or sharing the episode with friends! ❤︎ SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. CREDITS: This episode was edited by _____ Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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The Red Sleeve is a story of a woman's wish to belong to herself and the man who couldn't let her go. It's also about a king who couldn't trust his grandson and a crown prince who survived against all odds so he could some day be a good ruler to his people. Mimi from https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2021/12/31/the-red-sleeve-history-her-story-and-their-love-story/ (The Talking Cupboard) joins Paroma in a very spoilery episode where they wonder at the superior storytelling, the strength of conviction of the creators, and the exceptional performance by the entire cast, but most especially by Lee Jun-ho and Lee Se-young. Don't forget to tell us what you though! DM us on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! You also find Mimi on twitter https://twitter.com/muchadoboutlove (@muchadoaboutlove) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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At last Dramas Over Flowers talks about Boys Over Flowers! With our amazing guest Frabby, we discuss the latest adaptation of the memorable Hana Yori Dango, and how it stacks up against the Korean version that is a guilty watch for many. Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! TIMESTAMP: 00:12:31 - How F4 Thailand stacks up against predecessors 00:49:44 - Threatening sexual violence in Meteor Garden 01:00:15 - Why do we keep coming back for Domyoji and Thyme? 01:09:05 - Choosing our best versions LINKS MENTIONED: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAzbjOX6lY (The scene in Meteor Garden) - !! Trigger warning for sexual assault !! Find https://crabbyfordramas.wordpress.com/ (Frabby's recaps of F4 Thailand) here. Connect with our guest on twitter https://twitter.com/frabsiscrabsis (@frabsiscrabsis) * THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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The second part of our extra long discussion of extraordinary attorney woo is here! Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! LINKS MENTIONED: Register for the https://www.eventbrite.com/e/writers-on-writers-storytelling-in-k-dramas-tickets-409377829107 (Writers on Writers livestream here). For REPLAY of the live https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (sign up to our newsletter here). MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 135: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/135 (Extraordinary Attorney Woo Spoiled Yak (PART 1)) Episode 133: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/133 (Extraordinary Attorney Woo MID SEASON REVIEW) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Saya (assisted by Paroma) Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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The first part of our spoiler discussion of Extraordinary Attorney Woo (season 1). We also covered our early impressions of the show on https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/133 (episode 133). Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! LINKS MENTIONED: The ihttps://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/why-writer-moon-ji-won-writes-autistic-characters (nterview with writer & director of EAW )(translated by Anisa) Park Eun-bin answers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IGasR4mAOU (10 questions about EAW (video)) Redeemed for the wrong sin: https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/redeemed-for-the-wrong-sin-kwon-min-woo (Paroma's post on Kwon Min-woo) Interesting recent article Saya came across: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/dec/16/adults-discovered-autistic-child-diagnosed-autism (‘A lot fell into place’: the adults who discovered they were autistic – after their child was diagnosed) MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 133: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/133 (First Impressions eps 1-8) Episode 134: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/134 (Lee Min-ki (actor spotlight)) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Saya (assisted by Paroma) Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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We loved Lee Min-ki in My Liberation Notes and decided to talk about all his dramas and movies that we sought out over the years cause you can never have enough of this guy. Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! LINK: https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/what-would-dramaland-do (What Would Dramaland Do?) MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 133: Discussing first half of Extraordinary Attorney Woo https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/129 (Episode 129): We yak about My Liberation Notes THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by _________ Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Our love for Extraordinary Attorney Woo is as deep as our dislike of Kwon Min-woo is high. Anisa and Paroma talk about all that has happened in the first half of this excellent show about a rookie autistic lawyer who learns how the law really works while making new friends, battling workplace discrimination, and entering true adulthood. Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! TIMESTAMP: 00:00 - Non-spoilery discussion 16:46 - SPOILER segment starts LINKS WE MENTIONED: Anisa's https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/extraordinary-attorney-woo-first-impressions (first impressions of episode 1-4 of Extraordinary Attorney Woo). MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 132: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/132 (Our latest long yak) Episode 129: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/129 (Our half way thoughts on My Liberation Notes) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Saya, Anisa and Paroma talk about timey-wimey dramas Reset, Again My Life and Legally Romance, with digressions on binging C-dramas, ideal episode lengths (again), and why K-dramas are still doing romance better. Don't forget to tell us what you're watching and what you think we're missing out on! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! TIMESTAMP: 00:01:05 - We tease a special future episode on Boys Over Flowers! 00:02:38 - Miracle: first impressions and comparisons to K-pop novels 00:10:02 - Time loop dramas: Reset (C) vs. One More Time (K) 00:15:00 - Again My Life: ending thoughts SPOILERS 00:34:01 - Legally Romance (C-drama) 00:38:16 - K-dramas as "a safe playground for women's imagination". Side rant on OTP emotional damage inflicted by multi-season American shows. LINKS: https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/ye-sool-jumps-to-the-best-bits (Anja's blog post on Kiss Sixth Sense, feat. Legally Romance) https://thefangirlverdict.com/2022/04/12/review-reset-china/ (Kfangurl's review of Reset) Paroma's video essay: https://youtu.be/4swzXCNWKEI (Alchemy of Souls Is Beating Chinese Fantasy Historical Dramas in Their Own Game) (video) Anisa's recap of https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/ms-marvel-episode-1-recap (Ms Marvel Episode 1) MORE EPISODES YOU SHOULDN'T MISS: Episode 130: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/130 (Cross Fire is the best time-slip, gaming Chinese drama: Can Saya convince Paroma to watch?) Episode 131: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/131 (Author of K-Pop Revolution, Stephan Lee talks about the K-Pop industry) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for supporting us as we head into our SIXTH year! I can't believe we've all been together this long! ❤︎

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Stephan Lee talks to us about his books, K-pop Confidential and its sequel K-pop Revolution, which follow a Korean American teenager chasing her dreams as a trainee idol in Seoul. We discuss his writing process for each book, the relationship between art and activism, his personal experience of anti-Asian violence, and his trip to Seoul during his time as an entertainment journalist for Entertainment Weekly, and more. LINKS: https://linktr.ee/stephanlee (Buy Stephan's wonderful books!) https://twitter.com/stephanmlee/status/1372229782004510724 (Stephan's viral thread) about his experience of racist violence and its aftermath Find Stephan on https://twitter.com/stephanmlee (Twitter), https://www.instagram.com/stepephan/ (Instagram) and https://www.tiktok.com/@stephanmlee (TikTok) MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 96: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/96-interview-with-kfangurl-of-the-fangirl-verdict (Interview with Kfangurl of The Fangirl Verdict) Episode 124: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/124 (Part 3 of Our Year End Yak), in which Anisa waxes poetic about Idol: The Coup THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Saya and Anisa. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Saya is here for a Wild Yak to convince Paroma to watch 2020 Chinese drama CROSSFIRE, about two young men who meet each other in a game - but are eleven years apart in time. A spoiler-free intro to the show. PS. Saya really, really loved it. We talk about: The Signal conceit The rise of pro-gaming Gaming dramas as an emerging genre in C-dramas The trials of watching dramas in a totally unfamiliar language with horrible subtitles Side discussions on: dealing with addictions, C-drama Sweet Combat, actors Luhan and Leo Wu, and...peg legs and parrots. Cameo from Duke <3

CrossFire in real life: https://youtu.be/mPVjYRXdLAw (The Biggest FPS Game You've Never Heard Of - CrossFire) (video) https://youtu.be/YeCO6AiY2y4 (Crossfire - The Most Popular First Person Shooter In The World) (video) https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200724000521&ACE_SEARCH=1 (Smilegate’s drama series ‘CrossFire’ tops 100m views in China) Did we convince you to watch it? Let us know! You can email us, or DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 78: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/78-tly-kairos-the-spies-who-loved-me-tale-of-the-nine-tailed (TLY - Kairos | The Spies Who Loved Me | Tale of the Nine-Tailed) (Because Kairos!) Episode 123: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/123 (When Dramas Ruin You For Real Life), because this is also how CrossFire made me feel. THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://dramasoverflowers.substack.com/ (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Saya. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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We bring you a shorter long yak on two dramas we're watching and a lot of discussions on actor micro-expressions, the impermanence of cancel culture for powerful actors, and why we some time pause dramas we love. Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! [More information about the disgraced actor, Lee Kyung-young, who is guilty of sex with a minor can be found https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/k-drama-fans-continue-boycott-world-married-actor-lee-kyung-young-criminal-history/ (here) and http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2009/01/178_37984.html (here). For some thing this disgusting, there's surprisingly little coverage on his crime.] TIMESTAMP: 07:45 - Liberation Notes 32:18 - Again My Life MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 127: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/127 (Goblin) Episode 124: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/124 (Editor's Pick 2021) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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It's been almost 2 years, guys. It's definitely time to move on from https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/kimseonho (#KimSeonHo)'s breakout performance in START-UP. But before we do, here's a look back at why https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/hanjipyeong (#HanJiPyeong) captured our hearts, how much of this effect was intentional on the creators' part, and why his fans walked away bitter after that ending. (Also maybe why https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/namjoohyuk (#NamJoohyuk) also got a bad deal out of it. 😅) Talk to us on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! Or leave a comment under the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV7DJmS-Dw4&t=809s (video version on YOUTUBE)! TIMESTAMP: 00:00 - Intro 01:20 - Why was Han Ji-pyeong so appealing? 05:52 - Is Han Ji-pyeong perfect for So Dal-mi? 09:27 - Creators wanted to subvert tropes 12:40 - Start-Up played the audience 13:43 - Backlash from the fans 16:00 - How the drama messed up with Han Ji-pyeong 23:36 - The worst way to treat a fan favourite MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/127 (Episode 127): Goblin: The Great and Lonely God [Wild Yak] https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/123 (Episode 123): When Dramas Ruin You For Real Life THANK YOU to our beloved https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/patrons (patrons) for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Saya rewatched Goblin for the dozenth time and pulled Paroma into a discussion of our deep love for a story that also has so many elements we feel conflicted on. Dive in with your SPOILER hats on. Also, don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! Or leave a comment on our blog for this episode! Paroma's Video Essay on Toxic 1000 year old Gumihos: https://youtu.be/xjZSWDz5Zuo (CLICK) MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 126: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/1c25860d-e125-4718-9486-3cae7b4c56da (The Long Yak) Episode 122: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/ad94f787-f4c3-42ed-9743-bf85c840c7ac (Our 2021 Annual Awards) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for being our best support system! NEWSLETTER: https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Saya and (a tiny bit by) Paroma Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Welcome to our first proper Long Yak of 2022! In this one, Anisa and Paroma dig into our widely varying first impressions of Twenty-Five Twenty-One and Forecasting Love and Weather. And Saya makes a good case for why Rookie Cops is a worthier successor of Police University. Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! Or https://www.dramasoverflowers.net/post/126-tly-twenty-five-twenty-one-forecasting-love-and-weather-rookie-cops (leave a comment on our blog post) for this episode. TIMESTAMPS: 02:17 Twenty-Five Twenty-One 15:27 Forecasting Love and Weather 32:52 Rookie Cops MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/125 (Episode 125): February Premieres: Forecasting Love and Weather | 2521 | Thirty-Nine | Grid | A Business Proposal https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/51-the-spoiled-yak-perfume-search-www (Episode 51): Our Spoiled Yak on Search: WWW, also by Twenty-Five Twenty-One writer Kwon Do-eun THANK YOU to our beloved patrons [INSERT LINK TO BLOG] for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! NEWSLETTER: https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our email list) for the monthly newsletter with podcast announcements and special episodes! SOCIAL: Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon), by leaving a review on Apple podcasts, or simply by telling your friends! ❤︎ This episode was edited by Anisa. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network).

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Welcome back to our monthly What's Up in Dramaland. Let's talk about what dramas we're adding to our watchlist this February? Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (Insta) or https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (Twitter)! Or leave a comment on our https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=5011 (blog for this episode)! TIMESTAMP: 00:53 - Forecasting Love and Weather 11:42 - 2521 15:37 - Crazy Love 18:12 - Grid 25:48 - Thirty-Nine 32:32 - A Business Proposal 37:36 - Juvenile Justice 43:18 - Kill Heel 44:53 - Military Prosecutor MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE: Episode 123: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/123 (When Dramas Ruined You For Real Life) Episode 121: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/121 (2021 in Dramaland) https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=5011 (THANK YOU to our beloved patrons) for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups)! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma and Saya.

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Finally, it's part 3 of the longest yak we've ever done! In Part 3 of our 2021 Year End Yak, we bring you Listeners' Choice Awards, each of our personal top three dramas, and some reflections and thanks to round out the year. Note: We recorded this in December, so if you became a Patreon subscriber since then, not to worry, your patron shoutout is coming soon! Timestamps: 00:00:45 Listeners' Choice Awards 00:07:07 Our Personal Top 3 Dramas 01:04:38 A look back at DOF's year 01:17:03 Some recommendations! 01:32:34 Thank you guests, patrons, listeners ❤︎ Links: Muslim in Plain Sight https://the1a.org/segments/more-than-squid-game-the-international-rise-of-k-dramas/ (Anisa's 1A appearance) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwPyY7OHig (Nightline) https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/video/director-squid-game-talks-hit-show-80598412 (translations) Paroma's https://www.youtube.com/c/ParomasDramaNotes (Drama Notes) and https://thecreativeprocrastinator.captivate.fm/ (The Creative Procrastinator) Podcasts we mentioned: Citations Needed, You’re Wrong About, Maintenance Phase, Enemies of the People, Code Switch, Throughline YouTube video essay channels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwLWOdgdLYmb_mR5m5PEsuw (Mary TB), https://www.youtube.com/c/yuanProduction (yuanProduction), MyDramaList, Bbali Drama, Drama Hyung, Accented Cinema Don't Miss: Episode 121: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/121 (Year End Yak Part 1 (Trends)) Episode 122: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/122 (Year End Yak Part 2 (Goguma Awards)) THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of thehttps://frolic.media/podcasts/ ( Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa and Sripradha.

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Have the perfection of drama story lines ever made it hard for you to accept reality? It has for us, and that's what we are discussing on this episode. This is actually a recording from a livestream we did last year during the K-Pop Social Night Conference, so if you notice that the audio is funky, don't blame us, blame the internet. Terrible stuff. Hee.

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Welcome, welcome to Part 2 of our year-end celebration gala! With no less than 28 different awards, this not so much a Yak as it is a Mammoth Marathon, as we try to conquer the highs and lows of Dramaland 2021 in the space of two wild hours. If you've listened to Part 1, you may already know that we thought this was going to be in 2 parts (big mistake!), but it ended up being 3 - so happy new year and we'll see you in Part 3! TIMESTAMPS 00:01:06 - The Most Hallyutastic Drama 00:09:37 - The Biggest Ideas, Bestestly Done 00:20:53 - The Title Most Lost in Translation 00:24:40 - Best Use of Covid 00:29:20 - Best Use of Music & Sound 00:38:13 - The Drama That Was Worth Every Minute 00:42:44 - The Justest Vigilante 00:45:55 - Most Worksmart Drama 00:55:41 - The Squishiest Drama 01:02:35 - I Will Go Down With This Ship 01:06:22 - Fantastic First Halves, Stupid Seconds 01:16:01 - We’re Still Doing This, Dramaland? 01:21:31 - Drama With an Identity Crisis 01:23:28 - Most Bizarre Treatment of Disability 01:31:03 - Most Difficult to Finish (But We Did) 01:33:29 - Biggest Waste of Starpower 01:36:30 - Best Action Woman 01:39:06 - Best Person Pretending to Be Another Person 01:42:15 - 1 Actor, 2 Dramas: The Quickfire Round 01:47:30 - Busiest Bee Award 01:48:37 - !!SECRET AWARD!! 01:49:45 - Most Electric Adversarial Banmal 01:54:44 - Most Memorable Side Character 01:56:59 - Best 주인공 (Main Character) Face 01:58:17 - Most Manhwa Face 02:00:33 - Most Viral Moment 02:00:56 - Baby Who Grew the Most 02:02:53 - Unni Who Never Ages LINKS: Our Spotify playlist for https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7GQDgTD7x9KVBUFPV8TIrR?si=48bed91200e34f9f&nd=1 (Best OSTs of 2021) Paroma's video essay on My Roommate is a Gumiho: https://youtu.be/xjZSWDz5Zuo (Her Supernatural Boyfriend Is Toxic and Dangerous) Our https://dramasoverflowers.net/2022/01/09/122-2021-in-dramaland-year-end-yak-part-2-the-goguma-awards/ (Goguma Awards blog post) listing the winners

DON'T MISS: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/121 (Episode 121: Year End Yak Part 1 (Trends)) Episode 123: Year End Yak Part 3 (TBR 17 Jan '22)

THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship! https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (Grab your copy of our free 2021 K-drama Tracker) to see how many dramas you finished and dropped last year! https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. We love emails! https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Saya.

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Welcome to Part 1 of our Year End Yak. In this episode, we discuss the stories, trends, controversies, and fall out from dramaland in 2021. And when Saya, Anisa, and Paroma are done, our listeners and guests chime in with their insightful commentary on the year that passed. Have a very happy new year, everyone! TIMESTAMPS: 05:00 - Shorter Streaming Dramas 10:17 - Getting Netflix to Pay For Data Consumption 14:13 - Bullying Scandals 16:21 - Snowdrop Controversy 21:01 - Work-life Focused Dramas 23:54 - Vigilantism On the Rise 28:47 - Idol Dramas 30:05 - Higher Budgets in Webtoon Adaptations 33:11 - Listener & Guest Notes on Drama Trends The voice notes were sent by (in order of appearance): Staci, Anja, Dr. Chi, Granny, Ingatkayo, Jen, JustMe, Kfangurl, Merisoo, and Tina. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode! <3 AFTER THIS, CHECK OUT Episode 122: Year End Yak Part 2 (to be released on 10 Jan '22) Episode 123: Year End Yak Part 3 (to be released on 17 Jan '22) THANK YOU BELOVED PATRONS! Download our https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (free 2021 Kdrama tracker) to see how many shows you watched and dropped this year. https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma

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It’s the end of the year and as we all reflect on the dramas we loved in 2021, we thought it would be a good time to release this Spoiled Yak on one of our favorites—Run On. Our friend, Seoulbeats editor Rimi, joins Anisa Paroma for a long and detailed squee session about the show. If it sounds familiar, that’s because we actually recorded this in a livestream on Valentines day. In the spirit of Mi-joo’s movie madness, our topic headings for this Spoled Yak are all film references. Listen and relive the feels for this incredibly well-written, moving, hilarious show. Links: http://seoulbeats.com/author/Rimi/ (Rimi's articles) on Seoulbeats https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/02/13/drama-addict-diary-run-on-again-pride-and-prejudice-and-k-pop-novels/ (Saya's Drama Addict Diary) where she coined the perfect term "Noppa". Anisa's 2021 Year in Review, which is, fittingly, full of movie references and love for Run On. Other Episodes We Think You’ll Like: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/83-the-little-yak-run-on (Episode 83) - Our Little Yak on Run On's first half https://player.captivate.fm/episode/d7390a1f-944d-4ebc-a5dd-9d96ecb2696e?t=1146 (Episode 87) - Our non-spoilery final thoughts on Run On in The Long Yak https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=4929 (Thank you beloved Patrons!) Download our https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (free 2021 Kdrama tracker) to see how many shows you watched and dropped this year. https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa.

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Saya and Paroma sit down for a good gab about jTBC's 10-year anniversary drama, Sisyphus: The Myth, that aired earlier in the year, starring Park Shin-hye and Jo Seung-woo. We discuss why it wasn't a perfect show, but also the things that were perfectly done despite it. We're optimistic about the future of sci-fi in the K-drama realm, though, and the lush scope of Sisyphus gets us really excited! Come and listen! Note: At times, we (mainly Saya) use the name 'Seung-bok' to refer to Eddy Kim. They are the same person! LINKS: https://dramasoverflowers.net/tag/sisyphus-the-myth/ (Our reviews on our blog) https://vimeo.com/553761061 (The moment - the music - that sucked Saya in) Paroma's video essay: Thttps://youtu.be/RfEEpzaCvqI (he Real Hero of Sisyphus is Seo-hae)

OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU'LL LIKE: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/94-tly-vincenzo-hello-me-go-back-couple (Episode 94): The Long Yak where Anisa discusses why she dropped Sisyphus https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/85-stream-wars-ratings-kings-upcoming-sisyphus-river-where-the-moon-rises-vincenzo (Episode 85): WUID episode where we preview Sisyphus before it airs JOIN IN THE YEAR-END FUN! https://www.dropbox.com/request/YKH2VwXcRAoFNylnpL7P (Upload your voice note) for the Year-End Yak https://airtable.com/shrYPdJ4mlza9mZXu (Vote in our listener poll) for the 3rd Annual Goguma Awards https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (Grab your copy of our free 2021 K-drama Tracker) to see how many dramas you finished and dropped this year! https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Participate in https://twitter.com/hashtag/DramasOver2021?src=hashtag_click (#DramasOver2021 with us on Twitter) Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Saya and Paroma.

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In our final What's Up in Dreamland of the year—what.—Anisa and Paroma discuss December premieres, with a meaningful tangent about political protest. As we anticipated during recording, The Silent Sea does now have an airdate and will be dropping on Dec 24. There are plenty of ways you can participate in Dramas Over Flowers' year-end festivities. See the links below to join us! Links: https://www.dropbox.com/request/YKH2VwXcRAoFNylnpL7P (Upload your voice note) for the Year-End Yak https://airtable.com/shrYPdJ4mlza9mZXu (Vote in our listener poll) for the 3rd Annual Goguma Awards https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (Fill out our free 2021 K-drama Tracker) to see how many dramas you finished and dropped this year. https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Participate in https://twitter.com/hashtag/DramasOver2021?src=hashtag_click (#DramasOver2021 with us on Twitter) Timestamps: 00:02:42 The One and Only (postponed to 20th Dec, 2021) 00:08:32 Our Beloved Summer 00:14:11 Artificial City 00:22:12 Uncle 00:28:58 Bad and Crazy 00:33:20 Snowdrop 00:46:57 Bulgasal: Immortal Souls 00:52:33 When Flowers Bloom, I Think of the Moon 00:59:06 The Silent Sea Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa and Sripradha.

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Welcome to the last Long Yak of 2021! Join us for a long conversation as we catch up with each other on all the dramas on our plate. Use the hashtag #DramasOver2021 on twitter and review the dramas you watched in 2021! We'll retweet every one of them. <3 LINKS: Send us your voice notes for the Year End Yak: https://www.dropbox.com/request/YKH2VwXcRAoFNylnpL7P (UPLOAD) Use our K-drama tracker for 2021 for free: https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (DOWNLOAD) https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU’LL LIKE: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/3abb600e-54f5-44b1-b4ac-1eb2abf8e8dd (Episode 116) - Yumi's Cells Season 1 Spoiled Yak! https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/squid-game-1-3-wild-yak (Episode 109) - Our spoilery thoughts on Episodes 1-3 of Squid Game TIMESTAMPS: 00:05:56 Police University 00:17:51 Squid Game 00:21:42 My Name 00:31:56 Jirisan 00:41:32 Yumi's Cells 00:48:45 The King’s Affection 01:06:11 Dali and Gamjatang 01:18:03 Happiness 01:27:39 Melancholia 01:40:44 My Ajusshi Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Thank you to https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/12/02/117-the-long-yak-jirisan-my-name-dali-and-gamjatang-happiness-melancholia/ (all our active Patreon supporters!) You can also https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of thehttps://frolic.media/podcasts/ ( Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma and Sripradha.

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Paroma and friend of the podcast, Just Me, discuss the first season of Yumi's Cells - the perfect casting, the amazing music, the beats of the story that surprised us, the weight and beauty of the ending, and what we think will happen next! You can find Just Me on twitter https://twitter.com/JustEpicness (@justepicness). LINKS: Download the Kdrama tracker for 2021 for free: https://mailchi.mp/b0dea407c384/untitled-page (LINK) https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU’LL LIKE: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/9ffe6e9e-6fb2-4d8d-8f99-7d1a58a4c3f8 (Episode 91) - Mr. Queen Spoiled Yak Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, aebell, ingat kayo and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Kitty C., DJ, Arlene F., Keisha Watson, Jessie, W. Wallace, and Ronda H.J.! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of thehttps://frolic.media/podcasts/ ( Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma and Sripradha

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November brings a lot of new dramas to sample. Apple TV+ releases Dr Brain and Netflix brings you another short, hellish series by the director of Train to Busan - Hellbound. We also talk about the conversation around Kim Seon-ho in the last month and our personal belief that it should never have been a public discourse. LINKS: Wish Anisa luck on her job as a podcast producer https://twitter.com/anisakhalifa_ (@anisakhalifa_) Listen to Anisa onhttps://t.co/qvYIPTO0uG?amp=1 ( US national radio representing DOF)! TIMESTAMPS: 00:05:08 Kim Seon-ho and Internet discourse NOVEMBER DRAMAS 00:15:30 Melancholia 00:25:40 Dr. Brain 00:30:23 Happiness 00:36:59 Let Me Be Your Knight 00:41:42 Idol: the Coup 00:45:49 Secret Royal Investigator & Joy 00:50:07 Now, We Are Breaking Up 00:59:33The Red Cuff Sleeve 01:08:45 School 2021 01:17:23 Hellbound 01:21:22 One Ordinary Day https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU’LL LIKE: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/cd167819-60ab-4153-9491-f2b3e1243a75 (Episode 90): Where we go in depth about school bullying & fan culture in South Korea https://player.captivate.fm/episode/802322e2-a5eb-4c86-9b16-ad4242b73d3e (Episode 111): Check this for October kdrama premieres! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, aebell, ingat kayo, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Kitty C., DJ, Arlene F., Keisha Watson, Jessie, W. Wallace, and Ronda H.J.! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of thehttps://frolic.media/podcasts/ ( Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma

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Finally, we have arrived at the titular Squid Game! Anisa is joined by our friend kfangurl to finish up this dystopic voyage into the human psyche. We take a spoilery dive into episodes 7-9, discussing those much-maligned English speaking actors, whether the ending worked for us, and our thoughts on a second season. Links: kfangurl's https://thefangirlverdict.com/2021/10/09/review-squid-game/ (excellent review) of Squid Game Director Hwang Dong-hyuk https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/26/squid-games-creator-rich-netflix-bonus-hwang-dong-hyuk (describes how the show is inspired by his own life) https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/19/they-didnt-just-pick-us-up-off-the-street-meet-the-globally-derided-squid-game-vips (The Guardian's interview) with the actors who played those VIPs Other Episodes We Think You'll Like: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/03e0bde2-c08b-4900-9178-103eca71a940 (Episode 109) - Saya and Anisa's spoilery impressions on episodes 1-3 of Squid Game https://player.captivate.fm/episode/802322e2-a5eb-4c86-9b16-ad4242b73d3e (Episode 111) - We talk about why Squid Game became the first K-drama to take over the world https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter) for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, aebell, ingat kayo, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Kitty C., DJ, Arlene F., Keisha Watson, Jessie, W. Wallace, and Ronda H.J.! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa.

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In this Wild Yak, Anisa and Paroma talk to Tina, our friend and an aficionado of Korean web dramas, about what makes web dramas unique and appealing, the benefits and drawbacks of the format, and how they’re changing in this new era of streaming. Tina and Paroma also give Anisa some web series recommendations because she's a total noob in this area. Dramas mentioned in this episode: 7 First Kisses, If We Were a Season, A-Teen Seasons 1 and 2, Colour Rush, Nobleman Ryu's Wedding, and Boy Next Door. Other podcast episodes you'll enjoy: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/85967602-e9a7-41bf-ae02-81ac7f71f65a?t=4114 (Episode 38:) Paroma recommends A-Teen on the Playlist Global YouTube Channel https://player.captivate.fm/episode/0f95de5c-ebb1-4e94-8989-681810279129?t=246 (Episode 75:) We discuss new mobile streaming apps creating original content, including short-form series similar to web dramas https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, aebell, ingat kayo, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Kitty C., DJ, Arlene F., Keisha Watson, Jessie, W. Wallace, and Ronda H.J.! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma and Anisa

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We review the first week of The King's Affection, our strong reactions to the childhood story of our protagonists, our resentment over deaths that we knew were coming but wish didn't happen, and our anticipation of the grown by characters carrying the story forward! https://youtu.be/gaWg_3TJL8s (Watch Paroma's video essay) on 3 ways The King's Affection subverts gender bender tropes! Other podcast episodes you'll enjoy: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/802322e2-a5eb-4c86-9b16-ad4242b73d3e?t=1747 (Episode 111): Where we talk about the casting and plot before the drama released! https://player.captivate.fm/episode/5098c5c1-b4f9-48c0-91fd-fb2cdfb1a3bb?t=292 (Episode 47): Where we cover Rookie Historian Goo Hye-ryung while it was airing. A terrific drama to watch if you're enjoying The King's Affection! https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of thehttps://frolic.media/podcasts/ ( Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Paroma

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This month, we're back and labouring under the realisation that when you have a K-drama podcast, you have to watch the biggest global TV sensation in the history of K-dramas! I admit, we are not hating it, but we reserve the right to grumble! We also take a sidestep to talk about whether age affects how we enjoy actors, before jumping into October premieres. TIMESTAMPS NEWS 00:01:22 Why did Squid Game blow up? 00:20:09 Does an actor's age affect how you feel about them? PREMIERES 00:29:05 The King's Affection 00:43:46 Reflection of you 00:47:32 My Name 00:53:29 Jirisan 01:00:19 Would You Like a Cup of Coffee 01:02:32 Crime Puzzle 01:07:57 Chimaera 01:12:54 Inspector Koo Other Episodes We Think You'll Like: https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/squid-game-1-3-wild-yak (Episode 109) - Saya and Anisa review Episodes 1-3 of Squid Game and their brains explode https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/squid-game-episodes-4-6-the-wild-yak (Episode 110) - Saya and Anisa review Episodes 4-6 of Squid Game and their hearts are crushed Links: https://invisibledragon.home.blog/2021/09/21/equality-and-equity-in-squid-game/ (Lee Tennant: Equality and Equity in Squid Game) https://thefangirlverdict.com/2021/10/09/review-squid-game/ (Kfangurl's Squid Game review) https://dramasoverflowers.captivate.fm/episode/squid-game-episodes-4-6-the-wild-yak (Dear kfangurl: Why is Squid Game so popular?) https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter) for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Saya.

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Saya and Anisa discuss the devastating developments and twisty turns in Episodes 4-6 of Squid Game, which is slowly killing us even as we can't stop watching. We discuss the show's brilliant takedown of neoliberal capitalism, how it implicates even the viewer, and what it has in common with Vincenzo (links to our Long Yaks about Vincenzo below). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGMb3MBgKg (It's so metaphorical). Other Episodes We Think You'll Like: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/73a50fce-5d06-4bf7-8248-426ff87d16d9?t=914 (Episode 94) - Anisa and Paroma give their first impressions of Vincenzo https://player.captivate.fm/episode/642b53a7-43a3-487a-bf9b-488a1ec59b36?t=819 (Episode 99) - Anisa and Paroma's final thoughts on Vincenzo, and its complex ideas about redemption and heroism https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter) for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa.

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Squid Game really took over the world, huh? We talk the whys and wherefores of it becoming the biggest show ever in next week's What's Up in Dramaland, but for now, have Saya and Anisa's spoilery thoughts on Episodes 1-3. Let us know what you thought of this bonkers, brilliant setup to the deadly game. Other Episodes We Think You'll Like: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/7ff29333-8bfb-4d16-a3e3-7d81d7a40ec2?t=1671 (Episode 105) - where we first hear about Squid Game and speculate on what it might be like https://player.captivate.fm/episode/e669f22a-b3cd-44ff-be31-41e007438c13 (Episode 54) - where we review the Korean movie, Parasite https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter) for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups! Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa.

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The Long Yak is back! After a bunch of spoiled yaks and wild yaks, we’re back with the classic yak flavor! ...Okay that sounded weird - we’re not eating Goguma, don’t worry. In this episode, we talk about some shows we’ve started and finished over the last couple of months. A heads up that we discuss spoilers for episodes one and two of Hometown Cha Cha Cha, and Anisa gives away the broad strokes of how Mad For Each Other ends. So use the time stamps wisely! LINKS Listen to Saya and Anisa's new podcast Muslim in Plain Sight https://musliminplainsight.captivate.fm/ (here). Read merisoo's https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/07/28/at-a-distance-spring-is-green-yeo-joon/ (amazing character study) of Yeo Joon from At a Distance, Spring is Green. TIME STAMPS 00:04:43 D.P. 00:15:32 Hometown Cha Cha Cha 00:35:36 Police University 00:40:47 Hospital Playlist 2 01:01:32 At a Distance, Spring is Green 01:11:46 Mad for Each Other 01:16:34 The Rational Life Our Beloved Patrons: egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the https://frolic.media/podcasts/ (Frolic Podcast Network). This episode was edited by Anisa.

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We bring you another spoiler-filled movie chat with Anisa and Paroma. The last time we did this, we had just watched Black Panther and couldn't stop ourselves from recording an episode. You can find that episode here. (Episode 10) No time stamps on this one since it's a super casual chat, but we focus 70% of the conversation on the perfection of casting Tony Leung as an immortal warrior as well as husband-in-mourning. You've been warned. https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Sign up to our mailing list) for announcements and monthly episode round-ups here! Our Beloved Patrons: Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Paroma.

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Here's another foray into the wilds of Dramaland on the back of our yak - specifically a "shigan yohaeng" (time travel) into Seo In-guk's filmography, from his recent film, Pipeline, all the way back to the impression he made as Yoon Yoon-jae in Reply 1997 (aka Answer Me 1997)...and even further back than that. What was your first Seo In-guk? We'd love to know! LINKS https://www.dramabeans.com/2016/12/2016-year-in-review-part-5-sunbae-minions-weigh-in/ (Saya's 2016 end-of-year review of Police Unit 38) (scroll down): (Saya has reread it, and is crying at the mauling, so much mauling.) https://www.dramabeans.com/tag/police-unit-38/page/3/ (Saya and Paroma's recaps of Police Unit 38), full of intense commentary (also mauled, sigh): Our Beloved Patrons:Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, Anonymous Otter, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, SB, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: aebell and ingat kayo! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Saya.

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Eight new dramas releasing in September! TimeStamps! NEWS 00:03:16 - 'Imitation' boy band song https://www.soompi.com/article/1486037wpp/fictional-boy-group-sparkling-tops-hanteos-daily-album-chart-despite-not-being-a-real-group (gets on real world chart) 00:05:56 - Lee Jun-young https://www.soompi.com/article/1485938wpp/u-kisss-lee-jun-young-revealed-to-have-helped-the-police-catch-a-drunk-driver (helps police catch a drunk driver) 00:09:29 - https://www.soompi.com/article/1485872wpp/seungri-and-military-prosecution-both-file-appeals-on-his-sentence (Seungri's sentencing) and what happens next 00:11:06 - 'Hospital Playlist' https://www.soompi.com/article/1485819wpp/hospital-playlist-actress-ahn-eun-jin-signs-exclusive-contract-with-uaa (actress Ahn Eun-jin (Min-ah)) signs up with UAA 00:12:18 - Casting speculations! PREMIERES 00:15:02 - Lost 00:19:32 - High Class 00:22:38 - One the Woman 00:27:50 - Squid Game 00:33:24 - Yumi's Cells 00:38:32 - The Veil 00:45:47 - Dalli and the Cocky Prince 00:55:15 - Hometown 01:00:04 - Love in Black Hole LINKS Jang Dong-yoon heroism: https://www.kpopmap.com/actor-jang-dongyoon-past-heroism-intrigues-koreans/ (Actor Jang DongYoon's Past Heroism Intrigues Koreans) https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter for monthly updates) and podcast episode roundups! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_/ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Support us on Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Paroma.

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Welcome to the August What's Up in Dramaland! Here we take you through some industry news, give you our take on them, and then move on to upcoming dramas, which is MY favourite segment cause it's all about wild speculations and mixing up actor names while we try to figure out if we're willing to give these show a chance on our watchlist. TIME STAMPS: 02:43:17 Covid updates from S. Korea 04:17:16 MBC apologizes for https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2021/07/25/entertainment/television/opening-ceremony-offensive-images-mbc/20210725165400457.html (idiotic representation choices) 09:31:04 Kwon Eun-bin's https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2021/07/22/entertainment/television/Kwon-Eunbin-At-a-Distance-Spring-Is-Green-CLC-eunbin/20210722153100430.html (interview) 11:19:01 The https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2021/07/732_312672.html ('No K-Pop on a Dead Planet' campaign) 18:52:05 AUGUST PREMIERES 19:30:27 The Road: Tragedy of One 29:11:27 Lovers of the Red Sky 33:09:07 Hometown Cha Cha Cha https://mailchi.mp/da35d1e06207/dramas-over-flowers-newsletter (Join our newsletter) for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups! Find the https://dramasoverflowers.net/ (extended Show Notes here)! Follow us on Twitter @dramasoverflow and Instagram @dramasoverflowers_. Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Support us on http://patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Paroma.

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Welcome to our first outing of The Wild Yak! In this episode, Saya gives her closing thoughts on this little jewel of a drama that ran March-April, starring Song Kang and Park In-hwan. Spoilers inside! Our Beloved Patrons:Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Anonymous Otter, Haru, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, and SB! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎ Follow us on Twitter @dramasoverflow and Instagram @dramasoverflowers_. Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Support us on http://patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice, or simply by telling your friends. Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Saya.

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This month, we have the return of the wooly mammoth! We’ve had more reasonably sized yaks lately, but we had a lot of dramas to talk about when we sat down to record this, so settle in for a long one. This yak is premiere-heavy—we discuss our first impressions of a LOT of shows, as well as some ongoing and final thoughts on other dramas. Time Stamps: 00:02:37 Monthly Magazine Home 00:10:57 Nevertheless 00:18:35 Voice 4 00:26:09 At a Distance, Spring is Green 00:33:50 So Not Worth It 00:45:44 Doom at Your Service 00:59:18 Mad for Each Other 01:09:44 Imitation 01:19:23 Move to Heaven 01:24:49 Saya watches Vincenzo alone 01:28:30 Hospital Playlist 2 01:48:01 Joke of the Yak Find links and extended show notes https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=4696 (here). Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Support us on http://patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice! Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic podcast network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Anisa.

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Welcome, welcome, we are back to our regularly scheduled programming now that we've gotten over our plague of technical hiccups! A small note: since recording, the last drama we mention as upcoming in July 2021, POLICE UNIVERSITY, has been postponed to August. (Saya is disappointed.) TIMESTAMPS News: 00:01:50 Park Seo-joon in The Marvels? Upcoming Dramas: 00:11:19 Devil Judge 00:19:51 You Are My Spring 00:24:39 Witch's Diner 00:32:23 Police University Leave us your thoughts https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/07/22/101-park-seo-joon-in-the-marvels-upcoming-july-dramas/ (under our show notes here)! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Support us on http://patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice! Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic podcast network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by Saya.

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Welcome to the first Q&A with Dramas Over Flowers! We decided to answer some interesting email questions on the podcast in celebration of our 100th episode. We have loved taking this journey together and we appreciate every listener who's joined us on the way. Please keep sending us these wonderful questions, so we can do another mailbag soon! Time stamps (for the full questions, please visit the https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=4624 (extended show notes here).) 00:02:55 - Dr Chi's first question 00:34:00 - Frances' question 00:44:00 - Sarah Hope's question 01:04:00 - Dr Chi's second question 01:09:00 - JustMe's question 01:15:00 - Kfangurl's question Find our https://dramas-over-flowers.captivate.fm/episode/96-interview-with-kfangurl-of-the-fangirl-verdict (wonderful interview with Kfangurl) in this episode! Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow (@dramasoverflow) and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dramasoverflowers_ (@dramasoverflowers_). Email us at dramasoverflowers@gmail.com. Support us on http://patreon.com/dramasoverflowers (Patreon) or by leaving a review on the podcast app of your choice! Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic podcast network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts. This episode was edited by https://www.paromachakravarty.com/ (Paroma)

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Some announcements about upcoming events, as well as some boring administrative stuff about Patreon and episode names (you wouldn't know it by how much we giggle though). Register for KPSN to come see our panels on July 11th: https://solo.to/kpsnfun See you in the next Yak of miscellaneous description, and thanks to all our listeners & patrons as always!

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In this episode of the Long Yak (which was recorded on the same day as the last long yak and is therefore technically Part 2 of a very, very Long Yak), we discuss some dramas we finally completed, and some we rewatched.

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1:56 - Oh Master 13:35 - Vincenzo 30:12 - Hello Me 37:36 - L.U.C.A. 40:34 - Scripting Your Destiny 42:54 - Use For My talent/Clean With Passion For Now 56:03 - Bring it On, Ghost 01:07:06 - The Riddle

Anisa's review of Hello Me: https://www.dramabeans.com/2021/04/hello-its-me-series-review/

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Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, and latest additions to our fam: Anonymous Listener, Haru, and Fredrika! We are so appreciative of your support. Thank you! ❤︎

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We're back for a long Long Yak! It's been a while, but we hope you enjoy our drama catch-up as much as we did, though as you can see, we are still working our way back up to current shows. Nevertheless, we bring you all our customary digressions (including once again, a discussion on the necessity of angst), little love-squees about our underrated favourites, and of course, lots of giggling. (Listen out for the canine cameo!)

TIME STAMPS:

00:02:36 Patreon welcomes! 00:07:47 Doom at Your Service 00:27:01 Taxi Driver 00:43:04 Law School 00:54:39 Navillera 01:10:40 The Riddle

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Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, and newcomers to our Patreon family: G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, and latest addition to our fam: MelG! We are so appreciative of your support. Thank you! ❤︎

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In this belated preview of June K-drama premieres, we discuss what we're looking forward to this batch (spoiler alert - Paroma is SLIGHTLY anxious to see our merry band of doctor friends again). We also have some fun digressions on how the colors blue and green aren't always differentiated in Korean, and the Friends Reunion. *A note on the Penthouse scandal is in the intro, since this episode was recorded before that broke.

TIME STAMPS: 5:48 Penthouse 3 9:33 Love (ft. Marriage & Divorce) featuring Friends 16:11 At a Distance, Spring is Green 25:12 Monthly Magazine Home update 25:38 Hospital Playlist 2 30:22 Voice 4 37:43 So Not Worth It 44:14 Nevertheless 48:34 Increase in K-drama webtoon adaptations 54:58 On the Verge of Insanity

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This episode is part of a special series where we interview well known names from the K-drama fandom, so we can get an understanding of the unique struggles and joys of being a fan-creator.

Today's guest is the prolific writer and drama reviewer, 'kfangurl' of The Fangirl Verdict blog.

Find her excellent writing and recommendations here: https://thefangirlverdict.com/

Timestamp:

00:02:16 How kfangurl started watching K-Dramas 00:10:39 How dramas comfort and support us 00:21:20 How kfangurl's life as a blogger began 00:33:36 Choosing a nom de plume 00:52:19 How kfangurl deals with content thieves 01:00:07 The start of full-time blogging 01:13:21 Building the blog with reader input! 01:27:04 kfangurl's Bests & Worsts

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This month, Saya and Anisa skip news and talk solely about the ten(!) K-drama premieres of May.

TIME STAMPS: 02:57 Bossam: Steal the Fate 07:39 Youth of May 15:06 Imitation 18:19 Mine 25:25 Doom at Your Service 32:24 Move to Heaven 36:47 Fly, Butterfly 41:46 Racket Boys 45:41 Crazy X in Town 50:28 My Roommate is a Gumiho

Anisa's review of A Taxi Driver: https://www.dramabeans.com/2017/08/movie-review-a-taxi-driver-showcases-the-heroism-of-ordinary-people/

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In this Long Yak, Anisa & Paroma discuss why Anisa dropped Sisyphus, our love for Vincenzo despite the show's problematic morality, the poignancy of Hello, Me, and the 2017 gem Go Back Couple. Plus, we compare the Korean remake of A Love So Beautiful to the Chinese version.

TIME STAMPS: 00:01:39 Sisyphus: The Myth 00:15:14 Vincenzo 00:55:33 Hello, Me 01:14:39 Go Back Couple 01:18:21 A Love So Beautiful

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This week we bring you a light hearted review of True Beauty, the breakout webtoon adaptation, high school romance drama that sparked a lot of discussions and a lot of love for rising actor, Hwang In-yeop. Joining us for our conversation is Rai, an avid consumer of webtoons and Asian dramas, who is also the creator of the YouTube channel, helloxrai.

You can watch her excellent video about the webtoon vs the drama here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2X0JoA1ZO8

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We recorded this episode soon after the recent shooting of eight people, six of whom were Asian, in the US state of Georgia. We talk about our anger & sadness over what happened, the discourse around anti-Asian racism & racism in general, and practical strategies. We also try to bring some context to last week’s cancellation of Joseon Exorcist.

Links & full show notes: https://wp.me/p99pCS-16H

TIME STAMPS: 00:02:31 Anti-Asian racism 00:34:55 Joseon Exorcist 00:52:10 River Where the Moon Rises update 00:56:57 Dramaworld 2 01:04:24 Taxi Driver 01:09:27 Real Estate Exorcism 01:18:42 Undercover 01:23:10 Dark Hole

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In this episode we discuss the utter joy and subtle heartbreak that was Mr. Queen.

Joining us for this discussion is Just Me, a friend of the podcast and very perceptive drama watcher. You can find her on Twitter at https://twitter.com/JustEpicness

Read her Drama Addict's Diary on 'More Than Friends': https://dramasoverflowers.net/2020/10/18/drama-addict-diary-more-than-friends-episodes-1-4-overview/

Paroma's video essay on Mr Queen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tw6EfGyIMo

Anisa's review of Mr. Queen: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/02/17/mr-queen-review/

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Welcome to our special edition of What's Up in Dramaland, with Professor CedarBough Saeji. We ask CedarBough to share her thoughts on the bullying scandals, how dramas compare with real life, and what the role of fandom is during times of moral crisis.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:17 Introducing Professor CedarBough Saeji

00:04:33 Perceptions and prevalence of bullying in Korean schools

00:06:03 Overview of actors accused of school violence

00:13:27 The difficulties presented by S. Korean defamation laws

00:15:44 The celebrity-corporate ecosystem, and the socioeconomic value of a clean reputation

00:21:54 What do accusers want from the accused? Who else has a stake in the outcome of these allegation, and how does it affect the investigation?

00:25:23 Why now, and why is bullying such a hot button issue with the general public? What does society and "the discourse" owe to victims?

00:30:44 Hierarchy as a societal problem, and school life as the learning ground for negotiating pecking order

00:36:04 Competition and academic success: who becomes a bully in Korean schools, and what has celebrity got to do with it?

00:45:13 As a fan, what is an appropriate response to have when you learn about the wrongdoings of an actor you like?

00:51:26 International fandom, and doubling down on expectations of celebrity perfection

00:53:21 Is there a path to redemption after celebrity wrongdoing? How to make a comeback, and gender differences.

00:58:05 How jealousy moves mountains: the Tablo scandal, and struggling to survive "Hell Joseon"

01:01:01 How should dramas themselves/the industry respond? Situating ourselves as fans and outsiders.

01:05:06 Concluding remarks

Further reading:

Prof. CedarBough Saeji:

The Seungri Scandal and South Korea’s Gender Disparity: https://www.koreaexpose.com/what-seungri-burning-sun-scandal-says-about-korea-gender-disparity/

South Korea’s Corruption, Exposed by Burning Sun: https://www.koreaexpose.com/south-korea-corruption-exposed-by-burning-sun-seungri-scandal/

CedarBough on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/CBSaeji CedarBough on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheKpopProf/

James Turnbull: In the News: Korean Celebrity, Ethnic Nationalism, and Beauty Ideals: https://thegrandnarrative.com/2018/05/14/korean-celebrity-ethnic-nationalism-beauty-ideals/

Just beautiful people holding a bottle: The driving forces behind South Korea’s love of celebrity endorsement: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313470041_Just_beautiful_people_holding_a_bottle_the_driving_forces_behind_South_Korea's_love_of_celebrity_endorsement

Other:

The Tablo Scandal: https://stanfordmag.org/contents/the-persecution-of-daniel-lee

Further reading referenced in the episode: Shin, Haerin (2015). Tablo and Spectatorship. Choi, J.B. & Maliangkay, R. K-Pop - The International Rise of the Korean Music Industry (Ch. 15). Routledge.

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Anisa and friends of the podcast refresh and Yunah talk about writer-director Lee Isaac Chung’s film Minari, starring Steven Yeun, Yoon Yeo-jung, and Han Yeri, as well as the precocious, adorable Alan S. Kim. We all loved the movie, and had a great discussion about the universality of its embodiment of the Korean American experience in the United States, how it captures vivid moments and emotions, and whether we have awards hopes for this film, even though awards don’t matter. But let’s be real, there’s no way we aren’t celebrating Minari’s 6 Oscar nominations!

TIME STAMPS: 02:55 General thoughts 14:10 Favorite performances 25:04 Awards & being perpetual foreigners

Anisa's review: https://www.dramabeans.com/2021/02/movie-review-minari-paints-a-moving-vivid-portrait-of-rural-korean-americana/

refresh's review: https://init-scenes.blogspot.com/2021/03/minari-2021.html

Bong Joon-ho and Youn Yuh-jung on Cine21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8IyCyJXSGk

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This Long Yak is the second we recorded in February, and we discuss The Uncanny Counter, Run On, and Live On. Just a note: this was recorded before the series of bullying scandals that have rocked the Korean entertainment industry in recent weeks, and our discussion of bullying in this episode is less serious than it would have been with that context in front of us. We talked about this in Episode 87, but also, stay tuned for a special What's Up in Dramaland episode soon. We'll be joined by an expert guest to take a more in-depth look at the issue and the surrounding cultural context.

TIME STAMPS: 03:18 The Uncanny Counter 19:05 Run On 42:13 Live On 51:45 Jokes!

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March is turning out to be a grim month in Dramaland - we recorded this episode just as the Park Hye-soo story broke, but you can be sure we'll be following up on the later stories (i.e. Ji-soo) in our future episodes.

It's a lighter month at least for premieres - the highlight of which is Lee Min-ki's return to the screen with an equally oddball co-star, so let's hope that we can mine a bit of joy amid the midden.

TIMESTAMPS: 02:00 You're Beautiful: email from Kristi 04:24 "Adversarial Banmal" 07:45 Park Hye-soo bullying allegations, Dear M postponed 23:13 Star writer Kim Eun-sook ascends to executive creator of new show 26:38 Mouse (see ep.85!) 27:04 Navillera 30:13 Monthly Magazine Home 35:00 Joseon Exorcist 40:55 Oh! Master (Oh My Ladylord)

The banmal poll: https://twitter.com/dramasoverflow/status/1364986001383448579?s=20

Instructive reddit thread on Korean school bullying: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/lpp4at/the_reason_why_bullying_accusations_have_been/

Saya's wandering whirlwind review of February premieres: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/02/26/a-drama-for-every-day-of-the-week-and-wandering-reviews-of-all-of-em/

Anisa's delightful debut Drama Addict Diary: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2021/02/24/drama-addict-diary-youthful-indiscretions-do-overs-and-the-unbearable-chemistry-of-luca/

Paroma's video-review of Hello, Me (1-2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjRnVoK3DU

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Our first long yak of 2021 lands in February. We cover some recently wrapped dramas and two that we just started.

TIME STAMP: 04:58- LUCA 17:04 - True Beauty 35:59 - She Would Never Know 44:34 - Mr Queen 59:27 - Anisa's Riddles

Paroma's video essay on MR Queen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tw6EfGyIMo&t=3s

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February is flying in with a flurry of dramas! So many, so exciting! Of these, we only have eyes for one - guess which one! (Pssst it's SISYPHUS!)

In news, Netflix is facing more competition in the streaming market, while K-dramas are becoming increasingly experimental in their formats, of which THE UNCANNY COUNTER is the latest success story.

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---News--- 00:03:49 K-drama streaming wars continue, in Netflix vs. the world (again) 00:15:15 Kim Eun-sook's new project is a multi-season revenge melo? 00:19:24 Uncanny Counter's original writer departs OCN's highest rated show ever ---Upcoming Dramas--- 00:23:25 LUCA: The Beginning 00:28.00 River Where the Moon Rises 00:33:19 Sisyphus: The Myth 00:41:39 Hello, Me 00:49:21 Beyond Evil 00:54:11 Penthouse 2 00:57:09 Vincenzo 01:04:46 Mouse 01:07:39 Dear.M 01:12:27 Times

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This Spoiled Yak is a very special throwback to a drama all three of us watched early on in our K-drama journey, and which we still love to this day: You're Beautiful. As an extra treat, Anisa's mom agreed to come talk to us about her experience watching this show recently. Join us as we relive the iconic love story between Go Mi-nam and Hwang Tae-kyung, and squee about how much we enjoyed it and how well it holds up over a decade later. Hold tight to your pig-rabbits and dive in with us!

Be warned, there's a spoiler for Hospital Playlist, which is marked in the time stamps below.

TIME STAMPS:

00:03:06 Ammi's K-drama journey 00:09:16 The Music 00:12:24 Does it hold up? 00:22:17 The OTP 00:24:45 Hospital Playlist spoiler 00:25:27 Second Lead Shin-woo 00:39:29 Fiction imitates real life? 00:44:46 Separating the art from the artist 00:50:09 Representation matters & we are all flowers 00:54:59 The Hong Sisters 01:04:08 That ending time skip 01:13:28 Favorite Moments 01:23:33 Final Thoughts

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Anisa and Paroma talk about the first 8 episodes of #kdrama Run On and why they're hooked to this story. The drama stars Im Shi-wan (the famous maknae from 'Misaeng') and Shin Se-kyung (Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung) and their chemistry and building romance is making our January a lot better than expected.

35:28 Spoiler Begins 36:37 Spoiler Ends

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Dearest listeners. In this last episode we recorded in 2020, we wanted to give an overview of our year-in-dramas that was both personal and encompassed the larger fandom. So, between our silly and serious awards and discussions of personal favourites, you will hear the voices of other drama watchers across the world telling us about their thoughts and experiences of dramas in 2020.

Full show notes listing all the shows we discussed during Gogumas + acrostic poems: https://wp.me/p99pCS-Ru

--TIMESTAMPS--

00:15:01 - Introducing the Goguma Awards! 00:20:41 - Best SFF Concept 00:30:30 - Biggest Waste 00:35:15 - Bad Start, Good Ending 00:36:42 - Stupid at the Last Second 00:44:47 - Racist Drama Most Vigorously Defended 00:45:39 - Best Comfort Drama 00:48:42 - Best Partners 00:56:36 - Best OTP That Wasn't 01:03:20 - Puppy of the Year + Ajusshi of the Year 01:06:04 - Unni of the Year 01:07:16 - ACTUAL Puppy of the Year 01:11:24 - SECRET AWARD! 01:13:39 - Best Episode Endings 01:16:58 - Best Epilogues 01:23:08 - Best Wardrobe & Style 01:30:50 - Best Single OST 01:33:55 - The Ones That Made Us Laugh Until We Cried 01:36:50 - Most Quippy 01:43:03 - Best Watch Outside K-Dramaland 01:51:45 - Anisa's Top 3 01:56:43 - Paroma's Top 3 02:05:07 - Saya's Top 3 02:11:48 - Final Words (and a riddle!)

If you're curious about the voices in the episode, meet them below and look them up on twitter!

--LISTENER NOTES-- 00:05:36 - Natalie 00:14:04 - Rue @ruenicca 00:28:26 - Rimi @_payodhi 00:42:49 - Dr Chi @chinyereosuji 00:55:27 - Anja 01:01:38 - Kfangurl @kfangurl 01:10:00 - Abdul @pakistanipepper 01:21:19 - Supriya @supriyan 01:29:26 - Lils @lilstomas 01:41:41 - Helena @qassidas 01:49:30 - Lee @lee_tennant 02:16:28 - Saner

--ALL THE LINKS-- That weird book Anisa found: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54594933-kissing-the-coronavirus Overture [Stranger 2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RuMBbEVGWc Red Backpack [Good Casting]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1ESwAbTq0

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Anisa reconvenes with our review-gang, Lee Tennant and Yunah, for one last Stranger 2 love-fest to round off 2020. Listen to them break down the show's big themes (with side-trips into literature and philosophy), and revisit their best moments and favourite characters. But beware: spoilers and weasels abound!

In case you missed them, check out the reviews we wrote weekly as the show aired, here: https://dramasoverflowers.net/tag/stranger-2/

Translated interview with Lee Soo-yeon: https://twitter.com/withyakyu/status/1316944681515814912?s=21

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Lee Tennant: Twitter: https://twitter.com/Lee_Tennant Blog: https://invisibledragon.home.blog/ Lee's mid-show review: https://invisibledragon.home.blog/2020/09/10/distant-lights-in-a-fog-forest-of-secrets-season-2/ Finale review: https://invisibledragon.home.blog/2020/10/01/the-incorruptible-man-wants-nothing/

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Anisa and Paroma chat about Start-Up, the first twelve episodes of Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol (i.e. before that disastrous, bafflingly bad ending), and 18 Again. We also gush over Avatar: The Last Airbender, which Anisa finally watched—and loved, obviously—only fifteen years late.

TIMESTAMPS: 03:33 Start-Up 10:02 Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol 28:19 18 Again 32:58 Avatar: The Last Airbender

Full show notes: https://wp.me/p99pCS-Qe

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December Dramas premiere with several fun releases! We're joined on this episode by JustMe, our friend and an amazing writer, who recently guest posted for our site on "More Than Friends", which you can check out right here: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2020/10/18/drama-addict-diary-more-than-friends-episodes-1-4-overview/

Liliana's drama Discord: https://discord.gg/rN39kd2dc5

TIME STAMP: 00:13:51 - Industry News --UPCOMING DRAMA-- 00:32:01 - Lovestruck in the city 00:37:02 - Hush 00:41:51 - Mr Queen 00:52:19 - Run On 00:57:17 - Secret Royal Inspector 01:00:35 - Sweet Home 01:02:11 - A Love So Beautiful 01:09:17 - Dramaworld 2

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In this first Long Yak about what we watched in November, Paroma and Anisa talk about Kairos, The Spy Who Loved Me, and The Tale of the Nine-Tailed, all of which we're loving. Also a bonus K-variety recommendation from Anisa: Love Naggers 3.

Time Stamps: 01:32 Kairos 09:28 The Spies Who Loved Me 27:59 Tale of the Nine-Tailed 34:16 Love Naggers 3

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Paroma and Anja talk about how much they loved Do You Like Brahms? Why they almost dropped it. And why the ending was perfect! (The episode is FULL OF SPOILERS)

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In this second Long Yak of the month, we discuss the rest of what we watched in October: Korean dramas Search, Alice, and The School Nurse Files. Anisa and Paroma also discuss Blackpink documentary Light Up the Sky.

TIME STAMPS: 02:10 Search 12:24 Alice 22:20 The School Nurse Files 29:31 Light Up the Sky

Full show notes: https://wp.me/p99pCS-NS

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It's a news and drama-filled episode this month! We go over some stories from the industry and then dive straight into the LONG list of upcomings.

TIME STAMPS--- NEWS 00:04:05 Mobile TV - Wavve, Kakao etc 00:23:28 How the pandemic has affected Korean film releases and schedule 00:29:54 Lee Min-ho cast in Min Jin Lee's Pachinko 00:36:36 Popstars vs. politics: BTS upsets Chinese fans UPCOMING DRAMAS 00:40:37 Birthcare Centre 00:44:49 Please Don't Date Him 00:50:20 Live On 00:53:57 True Beauty 01:05:29 The Uncanny Counter (aka Amazing Rumour) 01:10:24 to 01:11:03 SPOILER for I Remember You

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We have a long yak about our watch-lists. (Part 2 of this yak with more dramas will be posted in two weeks.)

TIME STAMPS: 07:21 - 18 Again 21:19 - Record of Youth 37:11 - Do Do Sol Sol La La Sol

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We enjoyed the first weeks of Tale of the Nine Tailed so much that we did a quick first impressions on instagram live (@dramasoverflowers_)last Sunday. Paroma (@festerfaster) was the host, and our guest was Rimi (@_payodhi on twitter). The audio isn't the greatest, but we thought you may enjoy our glee at this fluffy and ridiculous tale of mythical beings.

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In this What's Up in Dramaland, we cover a hopefully ongoing trend toward female-led variety shows, and some quick news hits. Then we dive into October K-drama premieres, including The Spies Who Loved Me, which we are both very confused by and dying to see.

Find our expanded show notes, including links to articles we mentioned in the episode, here: https://dramasoverflowers.net/?p=2774

TIME STAMPS: 00:01:19 Female-led variety shows 00:09:49 Blackface in the 21st century 00:12:46 Upcoming in October 00:13:20 My Dangerous Wife 00:18:50 Tale of the Nine-Tailed 00:33:29 Startup 00:39:43 The Spies Who Loved Me 00:50:57 Fly from Rags to Riches 00:57:54 Penthouse 01:06:45 Revenge

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Hello good people. We bring you back our favourite offering. Nearly 2 hour of yakking about dramas by Saya, Anisa, and Paroma.

We had gone off schedule for a while as we built up the blog, but we're trying to get back now.

Join us for a belated chat on last season's dramas: Stranger 2, Flower of Evil, The Good Detective, and It's Okay to Not Be Okay.

Also revisit the 2016 romance, Oh My Venus and a 2012 Pakistani drama that Paroma recommended ages ago and Anisa finally watched.

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Hello listeners! This is the completely unedited audio (lord help you) from our private live stream last month which we held on an impulse to celebrate our 3rd year of podcasting about Korean Dramas!

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We're back with another belated what's up in dramaland. We go over some already airing and a few upcoming dramas, plus news of how the industry is dealing with the pandemic.

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We're trying something new - a Little Yak! This is a short conversation about a single drama. In this first Little Yak, we talk about our first impressions of the new coming of age romance drama Record of Youth, which we were excited about for many reasons. (Spoilers for episodes 1 and 2.)

Let us know what you think of this new format!

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In this Spoiled Yak, Anisa and guests Anja and Yunah discuss the delightful, unconventional family drama My Unfamiliar Family. This layered, funny, warm, sometimes too real show is such a gem - we had nothing but praise for it but we still had so much to say! And we all agreed that it really adds to the experience to go in knowing nothing about the story, so if you haven’t yet seen My Unfamiliar Family, definitely watch before you listen to this spoiler-filled yak.

TIME STAMPS: 02:33 Family dramas 12:49 Jin-sook 19:57 Eun-joo 23:44 Eun-hee 28:03 The Glorious Chan-hyuk 30:31 Ji-woo 0:30:31 33:27 Gun-joo ("Player-ssi") 36:27 Eun-joo's men, and other characters 40:06 Favorite performances and moments 49:28 Main themes and conclusions

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In Part 2 of Representation in Dramaland, we analyze the trend of very young female leads in contrast with their far older male counterparts, fat-shaming and beauty standards, and ableism, with specific examples of good and bad representation. We reflect on how K-dramas have evolved since we've started watching them, and conclude our exploration of representation with some thoughts on how these conversations often play out in the fandom (or don't), and how we might all approach these stories with more nuance, and our fellow fans with more kindness and respect.

TIME STAMPS:

SEXISM 00:03:00 The infantilization and/or sexualization of young female leads 00:03:32 Kim Yoo-jung & Ji Chang-wook in Backstreet Rookie 00:04:35 Kim So-hyun & Yoon Doo-joon in Radio Romance 00:05:30 The ickiness of waiting for child actresses to "turn legal" 00:09:47 Jung Eun-ji & the creepy second male lead in Reply 1997 00:22:05 Park Shin-hye & Kim Rae-won in Doctors 00:23:42 Drama representations vs. real-life relationships 00:30:14 Kim Go-eun and Gong Yoo in Goblin 00:37:20 But why are we often okay with noona romances with high school male leads?

BODY IMAGE 00:43:20 Beauty standards and fat-shaming in Korean entertainment 00:46:52 Kim Sun-ah in My Name is Kim Sam-soon 00:51:00 Shin Min-ah in Oh My Venus 00:54:45 Ha Jae-sook in Perfume 00:57:55 My ID is Gangnam Beauty 01:02:56 Eating disorders, Seo In-guk's struggle 01:05:11 Birth of a Beauty 01:05:52 Lee Young-ja in Hello Counselor

ABLEISM 01:11:00 Fox Bride Star/Where Stars Land 01:19:50 The Secret Life of My Secretary 01:22:50 The Beauty Inside 01:24:35 Trauma and mental illness 01:28:00 What makes a drama "too problematic to watch"? 01:32:00 The importance of creating space in fandom for these conversations 01:34:30 Who we valorize on TV, and how that affects society, and who's responsible 01:40:47 Context, change, and conclusions

In our extended show notes, you can find links to the articles we reference in the episode, additional points from us that we forgot to mention during the recording, and a complete list of listeners who sent feedback. Read them here: https://wp.me/p99pCS-uo

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This is Part 1 of a special edition of What's Up in Dramaland where we discuss why representation matters, and cover depictions of race and identity specifically.

We called for your input, and you responded spectacularly! We're really excited to bring you this two-part series on why representation matters, how it often presents itself in K-drama, and what it means for our fandom experience.

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Part 1: RACE REPRESENTATION 00:01:32 Introduction 00:05:45 Why does representation matter? 00:12:14 Contemporary cultural context and the migrant demographic shift 00:16:55 History of blackface 00:28:05 History of blackface in Korea, and the history of American imperialism 00:39:32 Marcia's voice note: Man to Man, Father I'll Take Care of You, Backstreet Rookie, and how we deal with bad rep as members of marginalised groups 01:03:55 Indian representation: Strong Woman Do Bong-soon's fake yogi; Park Hae-jin in Kkondae Intern; Axone as good rep of Indians from NE states 01:17:53 How white people are represented in K-drama and English as a marker of social status (Dramas: Search WWW; CLOY; A moment At Eighteen) 01:24:33 Itaewon Class and Chris Lyon

Part 2: LGBTQ+ REPRESENTATION 01:30:34 Itaewon Class and trans rep with Lee Joo-young 01:35:12 Graceful Family, Strong Woman Do Bong-soon, and trans villainy 01:40:11 Personal Taste and "gayface" 01:43:23 Accessing private spaces and gender-bending dramas 01:46:12 Coffee Prince and the "gay for you" trope 01:51:29 Secret Boutique 01:54:28 My Unfamiliar Family 01:57:28 Reply 1997 01:59:08 Her Private Life and obligatory tragedy 02:03:34 Where Your Eyes Linger 02:04:42 Her Private Life, again. HELLO RYAN GOLD 02:06:29 Conclusion

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We bring you another Spoiled Yak, this time on the feel-good spring hit Hospital Playlist. Paroma and I were joined by my sister, Zaynab, for a spoilery deep dive into this warm, slice-of-life drama that we all loved, if to various degrees.

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It's the beginning of July, which means time for What's Up in Dramaland! This month we talk about the well-deserved backlash to Backstreet Rookie, K-pop fans leveraging their power for good, and our thoughts on the US remake of Hotel Del Luna. Plus, July K-drama premieres!

TIMESTAMPS: NEWS 00:03:25 Backstreet Rookie 00:15:33 Kpop fans' activism 00:18:01 Hotel Del Luna US remake 00:24:49 Quick Updates UPCOMING 00:30:55 Into the Ring 00:34:36 The Good Detective 00:37:56 Men Are Men 00:42:10 Was it Love? 00:47:55 Elegant Friends 00:51:15 Train 00:57:50 Flower of Evil

Saya's Twitter thread on Backstreet Rookie: https://twitter.com/notnowsaya/status/1274056763118161927?s=20

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This month, we talk about The King a LOT, and check out a whole bunch of new dramas - some of them are great, some not so much, but hey, there's always lots to talk about!

TIMESTAMPS: 00:02:31 - The King: Eternal Monarch 00:29:16 - Once Again 00:34:53 - Unfamiliar Family 00:41:19 - How we feel about recommendations and hype 00:47:36 - Kkondae Intern 00:58:47 - When My Love Blooms 01:04:30 - Good Casting 01:14:48 - The Untamed 01:27:11 Special thanks to our patrons and listeners <3

The Secret Lee Min-ho project: https://dramasoverflowers.net/2020/06/18/the-drama-act-off-lee-min-ho-vs-lee-min-ho/

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This What's Up in Dramaland, we discuss new trends in K-drama length, why we think The King has had disappointing ratings, and some quick updates, including news of Lee Da-hee's first lead role, yay! Then we move on to June K-drama premieres, and what we're most excited for.

NEWS 2:42 Shorter K-drama Seasons https://www.hancinema.net/can-the-12-episode-drama-replace-the-16-episode-norm--141272.html 16:53 The King's low ratings http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200518000644 27:55 LJK-MCW reunion 33:15 LDH Lead role! UPCOMING 36:00 School Nurse Files 44:45 My Unfamiliar Family 48:44 Backstreet Rookie 54:25 Sweet Home 55:14 It's Okay to Not Be Okay

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This month we talk about our first impressions of The King, our final (lukewarm) thoughts on When the Weather is Fine, and the unexpected delight of Find Yourself.

TIMESTAMPS: 00:08:12 The King: The Eternal Monarch 00:38:31 When the Weather is Fine 00:55:43 Find Yourself 01:07:29 365: Repeat the Year 01:09:45 Hospital Playlist

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Once again, we're light on news, but there's a bunch of May dramas we're excited about! (And maybe a couple not so much.) Seems like a mix of workplace dramas and food-themed shows.

02:12 Soul Mechanic 05:40 Twitter conversation about Noona romances https://twitter.com/ladyinsaeng/status/1245740530509778944?s=19 10:18 Oh My Baby 17:20 Wind and Cloud and Rain 24:49 Mystic Pop-Up Bar 33:16 Old School Intern 39:43 Team Bulldog 41:17 Dinner Mate 50:47 Midnight Snack Couple

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Today we bring you a new episode of "K-Dramas Meet..." where we talk to brilliant, shining individuals from our drama loving community whose work and life are often inspired by those stories. For our first episode, we chat with Author June Hur, the funny, smart, warm writer whom we've followed on twitter for ages, while waiting for her manuscript to take shape. And today as we release this episode, June is launching her debut novel into the world.

Follow her on twitter @WriterJuneHur and instagram @JuneHWrites. Buy The Silence of Bones at https://junehur.wordpress.com/books/.

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Here's the Long Yak! We get deep into our feels on Crash Landing on You (for once we all watched one show!) and share our thoughts on some other stuff we saw last month, including some Variety, both Korean and American. We have concluded that Korean dating shows are far superior.

TIMESTAMPS: [Dramas] 00:09:55 - Crash Landing on You 00:25:46 - Itaewon Class 00:28:34 - The Game: Towards Zero 00:36:51 - Romantic Doctor Teacher Kim 2 (aka Doctor Romantic) 00:44:52 - One Spring Night 00:51:25 - 9.9 Billion Won Woman 00:55:07 - Black Dog 00:57:10 - Tale of Nokdu [Variety] 01:06:59 - 1 Night, 2 Days 01:13:26 - Love Naggers Season 3 01:18:04 - A Little Thing Called First Love 01:32:13 - Love is Blind

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Hello, dramaheads. Not much in news, but we have plenty in dramas this month. Listen to Anisa and Saya read the synopsis of upcoming or newly airing dramas and try to understand what on earth they are about.

*NOTE: This episode was recorded a couple of weeks back so the coronavirus coverage is outdated. We hope that wherever you are, you & your loved ones are safe. ❤︎

TIMESTAMPS: 02:11 - Coronavirus & Korea 08:48 - Train to Busan sequel 09:47 - Parasite tops $50 million in US UPCOMING 13:05 - Nobody Knows 16:29 - Memorist 22:35 - Hospital Playlist 26:45 - Kingdom 2 31:32 - Rugal 33:24 - Memories of the Man 37:04 - 365: Repeat the Year 41:28 - A Piece of Your Mind 45:20 - Welcome 50:15 - The Married Life

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We recorded this one before Parasite SWEPT THE DAMN OSCARS, so please excuse us! This episode has been delayed by illness. We discuss a listener's scoop that clarifies our speculations about AT&T, celebrate Parasite and Bong Joon-ho (and a cast that really should have gotten more acting noms), and anticipate February dramas.

01:47 At&T 06:31 Parasite 10:29 Song Kang-ho's speech Justin Chang's article https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-01-16/best-performances-cast-of-parasite-oscars-snub 15:26 UPCOMINGS 15:38 Tell Me What You Saw 21:30 My Holo Love 30:02 The Cursed 33:01 Hi Bye Mama 36:23 Hyena 39:03 I'll Find You on a Beautiful Day 45:21 Wise Doctor Life

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Anisa and friend of the podcast refresh_daemon do an in-depth, spoiler review of this awards season's movie sensation, PARASITE. We also discuss Korean movies in general, and the film's chances at the Oscars. (This episode was recorded before the Golden Globes, Oscar nominations, and the SAG Awards.)

Time Stamps: 00:24:26 - Parasite 01:21:02 - Oscars

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We're back with more news and views to wrap up 2019, though this one's a little delayed due to a combination of technical problems and the gang getting busy with our year-end fun (check out the Year-end Yak and our blog posts!).

Thanks to LollyPip for joining us for this episode!

You can follow LollyPip on twitter here: https://twitter.com/LollyPipKD

TIMESTAMPS:

NEWS 01:59 - Produce X 101 Corruption 13:15 - Return of 1 Night 2 Days 18:18 - Studio Dragon, Netflix, CJ E&M Updates: 28:36 - Lee Dong-wook new talk show, feat. Gong Yoo! 30:04 - Kim Woo-bin back on screen! 31:49 - Kang Ji-hwan sexual assault case 33:11 - Lee Joon-hyuk NBC timeslip drama

UPCOMING DRAMAS, December 2019: 36:16 - Crash Landing on You, Stove League recap (discussed in previous WUID) 39:27 - Selection: War Between Women 41:40 - Prosecutor's Diary 44:06 - Black Dog

—Awesome Patrons who support us— Egads, Steven Blackmore, Lia W., Kimbap Noona, Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Jenmole, Saoirse10, Hamda, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo and a big welcome to the newest member of our patreon family, Rue!

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Welcome to the first annual Goguma (Sweet Potato)Awards, presented by Dramas Over Flowers. We made up all the categories to give our favourites as many awards as possible, but watch us pretend to be fair by having a whole list of nominations and everything.

TIME STAMP: 00:03:12 - We list our top 3s of 2019 00:16:01 - Honorable mentions Goguma Awards! 00:26:48 - Best concept 00:31:49 - Best Music 00:34:01 - Best comedy 00:35:08 - Best Romance 00:41:59 - Best character 00:50:14 - Puppy of the year 00:52:31 - Sparkliest chemistry 00:55:09 - Biggest waste of Talent 00:56:45 - Most disappointing second half 00:58:11 - Rubbish All the Way Through 01:02:24 - Villain we love to hate 01:03:20 - Most Terrifying Villain 01:07:07 - Squishiest 01:07:51 - Fish Ex Machina 01:09:45 - Badass female ensemble 01:11:04 - Most Crackjjang 01:15:26 - Best Wardrobe 01:19:28 - Best Yeo Jin-gu 01:21:50 - Most convincing fake politician 01:25:18 - Non-Korean Drama Paroma Finished 01:28:24 - Notable International TV shows

Links: "Snowflakes" from the My Fellow Citizens OST https://youtu.be/A_lNRM_PwqA "We All Lie" from the SKY Castle OST https://youtu.be/PdDfuWJc9dA

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Hola listeners! We're taking a break from Long Yaks for this month. Instead we bring you the first of a new series that we are calling the 'Spoiled Yak'. Cause we yak about a drama and spoil it. Geddit? XD

TIMESTAMPS: 00:01:51 - Perfume 00:16:07 - Search: WWW

LINKS: Naver’s News Manipulation: Compromising K-pop's International Fanbase? by Rimi and Gina https://seoulbeats.com/2019/07/navers-news-manipulation-compromising-k-pops-international-fanbase/

Author Anja's awesome books: anjadejager.com

What's Wrong With My Mother-in-law: Compilation Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZIP0F4Yw-s Compilation Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-arFBASL0

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We're back with more news and views! Saya swanned off this time, so we're joined by DOF's little sister, Zaynab.

List of November 2019 dramas here: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2019/11/02/november-k-drama-premieres/

TIMESTAMPS:

NEWS 02:12 - Sulli's death: regulating online bullying and harassment, and the possibility/problems of a "Sulli's law". 10:47 - Release of movie "Kim Ji-young, Born in 1982" and the anti-feminist backlash; "gapjil" culture (workplace harassment by seniors). 17:13 - Graceful Family breaks MBN ratings records 19:31 - Lee Jae-wook's Search WWW x Extraordinary You behind-the-scenes crossover, plus fangirling! 21:19 - Quick updates on past stories we've covered, digression on how headlines are translated (plus lots of laughing) 25:13 - Kim Tae-hee and Rain welcome second baby!

UPCOMING DRAMAS 26:00 - Chief of Staff 2 28:38 - Psychopath Diary 30:55 - Stove League 35:22 - Emergency Landing of Love/Love's Emergency Landing 40:55 - People With Flaws 45:59 - 9.9 Billion Won Woman 48:29 - Chocolate

LINKS:

Sulli: The woman who rebelled against the K-pop world: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50051575 K-pop under scrutiny over 'toxic fandom' after death of Sulli: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/18/k-pop-under-scrutiny-over-toxic-fandom-after-death-of-sulli Feminist novel becomes center of controversy in South Korea: http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20180327000799 Korean Feminist Novel Proves Hit in China: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2019/10/18/2019101801488.html

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TIME STAMPS: 00:04:07 - Rookie Historian Goo Hye-ryung 00:32:43 - Melting Me softly 00:38:55 - Graceful Family 00:52:22 - When the Camellia Blooms 00:59:44 - Secret Boutique 01:09:40 - Vagabond 01:21:11 - A Moment at 18 01:23:17 - Melo is My Nature

Anisa's finale review of Rookie Historian: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/10/rookie-historian-gu-hae-ryung-episodes-37-40-open-thread-final/

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We’re here, we’re here, we’re really here! We look back at what was up in Dramaland in September, and look forward to what’s coming up in October 2019.

Paroma was away scoping out our spiritual home, the Yak Cafe (a real place!), so we invited our good friend and Dramabeans’ writer Helen to join us. She brings along fresh opinions, a fresh accent, and a lot of insight into the vagaries of Dramaland.

List of October dramas here: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2019/10/04/october-k-drama-premieres/

Follow Helen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/helcat_db Helen on Dramabeans: http://dramabeans.com/author/helcat

Timestamps:

00:05:24 - Is viki acquiring Dramafever's content? How licensing wars change the drama viewing landscape (again) 00:15:28 - "Melo Suits Me": when is a story worth telling, and how do ratings shape it? 00:31:46 - Criticism of Chinese K-pop stars supporting police crackdown on Hong Kong pro-democracy protesters 00:39:02 - Lee Pil-mo's new baby, his dating show backstory, Love Island vs Terrace House 00:43:33 - Que Sera Sera remake 00:49:43 - Bad Guys has a movie! 00:51:07 - US remake of SKY Castle 00:55:34 - New Netflix variety show "Twogether" with Lee Seung-gi, Jasper Liu 00:56:45 - Kim's Convenience at Seoul International Drama Awards, Korea exports own sitcom about immigrant experience

01:00:30 - UPCOMING DRAMAS 01:01:12 - My Country 01:04:54 - VIP 01:08:27 - The Lies Within (Everyone's Lies) 01:13:37 - Leverage 01:16:45 - Catch the Ghost 01:18:10 - Yeonnamdong Global House 01:22:49 - Helen shares her favourite dramas: Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung, I Hear Your Voice

Links: Viki Brings Back Some DramaFever Content: https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/viki-deals-korean-chinese-dramas-dramafever-1203324728/ Melo Suits Me: Amid low ratings, director finds hope in avid viewers: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2019/09/688_275342.html

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TIME STAMPS: 00:01:33 - Live-action Mulan revisited 00:04:50 - Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung 00:26:39 - Love Alarm 00:34:54 - Melo is My nature 00:42:06 - Hell is Other People 00:45:09 - The Great Show 00:51:20 - A Moment at 18 00:59:46 - Class of Lies 01:01:14 - Welcome 2 Life 01:06:20 - Hotel Del Luna 01:11:33 - Level Up 01:21:13 - Watcher

Anisa's reviews: Rookie Historian: http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/rookie-historian-gu-hae-ryung/ Level Up: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/07/level-up-episode-1/

Saya's reviews: Class of Lies: http://www.dramabeans.com/tag/class-of-lies/ Watcher Part 1 (1-8): http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/watcher-episodes-1-8-review/ Watcher Part 2 (9-16): http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/09/watcher-episodes-9-16-final-series-review/ Welcome 2 Life: http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/welcome-2-life-episodes-1-4-review/ The Great Show Part 1 (1-2): http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/08/the-great-show-episodes-1-2-review/ The Great Show Part 2 (3-8): http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/09/the-great-show-episodes-3-8-series-review/

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We have a new guest! Fangirl JustMe joins us to chat about current headlines. whether on screen romances can last off screen, and what she's excited about from the upcoming batch of September dramas!

List of September dramas here: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2019/09/03/september-k-drama-premieres/

TIMESTAMPS:

NEWS 02:22 - Gu Hye-sun and Ahn Jae-hyun divorce and make sure we know all about it. 12:48 - Divorce clauses in actor contracts? 16:55 – Broadcast channels scrap the mon tue drama slot 20:20 - Romantic doc teacher kim 2 24:22 – Trailer of the Snowpiercer adaptation is out! 25:35 – The Mulan discussion continues (Anisa Edition) UPCOMING 33:35 - The Great Show 34:56 - Flower Crew: Joseon Marriage Agency 37:23 - When the Camelia Blooms 41:07 - The Running Mates: Human Rights 43:09 - Secret Boutique 44:45 - Vagabond 48:39 – Pegasus Market 50:18 - Haru found by chance 52:59 - Melting Me Softly 56:13 - Tale of Nokdu 01:02:07 - Miss Lee 01:05:38 - Saya tries to give away my co-hosting spot to JustMe (@JustEpicness)

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Well hello. We have here the long awaited Long Yak discussing all our new watches and happy endings from July. Enjoy. (Timestamps below!)

Designated Survivor: First Thoughts - http://bit.ly/DesignatedSurvivorFI

Time Stamps:

00:04:25 - Rookie Historian Goo Hae-ryung 00:21:50 - Designated Survivor 00:23:51 - Hotel Del Luna 00:37:29 - Level Up 00:46:09 - Watcher 01:02:58 - Class of Lies 01:13:32 - Search: WWW 01:33:23 - Non-Korean: Unrequited Love 01:40:36 – Jokes

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We round up news from July and look forward to the dramas that August brings.

TIMESTAMPS: 03:48 - Kang Ji-hwan under arrest for sexual assault 09:14 - Korea and India collaborating on a sageuk about Heo Hwang-ok 17:40 - Agency 51K taking a hard line against sasaengs 21:11 - Yoon Yeo Jung And Han Ye Ri To Make Hollywood Debuts 23:57 - Mulan trailer discussion (book rec: Girl King) 32:49 - Actress Jeon Mi-sun passed away 34:25 - Park Shin-hye and Yoo Ah-in to be co-starring in #Alone 35:51 - Krystal cast in film as an unwed pregnant student looking for her father. 37:18 - Kang Ha-neul, Gong Hyo-jin and Kim Ji-seok confirmed to star in KBS drama. UPCOMING DRAMAS! 40:17 - Melo Suits Me 42:48 - I Wanna Hear Your Song 45:23 - Graceful Family 48:54 - Strangers from hell 51:36 - Catch the ghost

—Awesome Patrons who support us— Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades Gracefulegg Divina Jenmole Saoirse10 Hamda MCG Humbledaisy

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Warning: This Long Yak is Long. Brace yourself. Use the timestamps below responsibly.

TIMESTAMPS: -- Non-Korean -- 00:02:09 - Dark 00:02:45 - General & I 00:04:40 - Well Intended Love 00:08:54 - Always Be My Maybe -- Korean -- 00:11:08 - Angel's Last Mission: Love 00:29:59 - Perfume 00:35:30 - Arthdal Chronicles 00:49:07 - Abyss 00:55:42 - Secret Life of my Secretary 01:14:22 - Search: WWW 01:28:31 - Beautiful World 01:33:38 - Her Private Life - Final Thoughts 01:37:02 - One Spring Night 01:37:39 - Time Between Dog and Wolf 01:38:23 - Aje gags from Saya

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Some news and lots of new dramas to check out in July. To help everyone keep track of the massive list, we have compiled them with helpful summaries and interesting notes on our blog: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2019/07/04/july-k-drama-premieres/

Link to Rimi's article on YG: https://seoulbeats.com/2019/06/yg-to-boycott-or-not-to-boycott/

TIME STAMP - 01:09 - Song Hye-kyo and Song Joong-ki file for divorce 02:41 - YG CEO resigns amidst corruption charges 05:01 - Jung Joon-young and Choi Jong-hoon face charges 08:10 - Spycam culprit sentenced 11:21 - Actors want their cut from YouTube reruns 16:28 - Parasite inspires propaganda 18:23 - Russian Crime Show to be remade in Korea UPCOMING!! 19:44 - Designated Survivor: 60 days 22:08 - Love Affairs in the afternoon 23:40 - Watcher 26:19 - Level up 30:23 - Hotel Del Luna 39:14 - Justice 41:36 - Class of Lies 42:37 - Doctor Detective 43:55 - Rookie Historian Gu Hae-ryung 45:04 - Doctor Yohan 47:51 - Moment at Eighteen 50:41 - Let me hear your song 53:56 - Welcome 2 life 57:31 - When the devil calls your name 01:00:03 - Melo Suits Me

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Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades Gracefulegg Divina Jenmole Saoirse10 Hamda

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Some news and some new June dramas! Welcome back to What's Up in Dramaland.

NEWS 34:00 - Jang Ja-yeon update 11:00 - Kim Woobin spotted by fans 13:00 - Jian84 creates racist webtoon 18:43 - Kang Haneul discharged and cast in a romacom! 19:55 - Kim Go-eun, Lee Min-ho in alternate world fantasy drama 24:32 - Hyun bin, Sohn Ye-jin team up for new drama 25:58 - So Ji-sub dating seriously JUNE DRAMAS 27:05 - Arthdal Chronicles 32:18 - Perfume 34:55 - Investigation Couple 2 36:00 - Search WWW 37:52 - Joseon Survival Guide

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With a shorter list than usual, here's our Long Yak. We discuss the final leg of Her Private Life and some leftover thoughts on He is Psychometric before moving on to newly airing dramas: Abyss, Secret Life of My Secretary, and Angel's Last Mission: Love. Also watch out for a comeback of Saya's infamous Aje gags towards the end. (You've been warned.)

TIMESTAMPS: 06:48 - Her Private Life (Spoiler from 12:30 -14:00) 14:51 - He is Psychometric 18:41 - Abyss 30:27 - Secret Life of My Secretary 37:48 - Angel's last mission

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We bring you some updates to the Burning Sun controversy, the tale of Park Yoochun's expulsion from his agency, our anticipation of Ji Chang-wook's next project, and some discussions of Korean multiculturalism. Plus the new dramas of May and what we expect from them!

(00:10:53 - We move on from the Burning Sun update to other news.)

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IMPORTANT LINKS:

Burning Sun update, translated by The Korean: https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1120731744720826369 
A thread by writer Wei Ting about the long history of sex trafficking in Korea and its roots in foreign occupation, first by Japan and then the US https://twitter.com/intewig/status/1120854717884555264  
Two allegations of group sexual assault by JJY, CJH and others https://www.soompi.com/article/1319396wpp/channel-a-details-suspected-sexual-assault-jung-joon-young-choi-jong-hoon-group-chatroom  
Park Yoochun expelled from agency: https://www.soompi.com/article/1319722wpp/park-yoochuns-agency-terminates-his-contract-says-he-will-retire
Racist Korean restaurants in India: https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/no-entry-indians-restaurant-andhra-only-south-koreans-claims-staff-77970
Korean resistance to refugees: https://www.koreaexpose.com/south-korea-xenophobia-shows-itself-yemen-refugees-situation/
Survey about the acceptance of multiculturalism among Korean adults and youth http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20190418000775
Young Women In South Korea Are Driving An Era Of Change https://www.huffpost.com/entry/south-korea-me-too-abortion_n_5cb88498e4b09dc528ced991

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We’re back with another Yak! We discuss the dramas we’re currently watching and how Paroma’s recommendations cannot be trusted. (Recorded on 28th Feb)

TIME STAMPS:

00:03:35 - Her Private Life 00:33:48 - My Fellow Citizen 00:43:14 - Beautiful World 00:53:35 - He is Psychometric 01:03:59 - I picked up a celebrity 01:08:33 - Rec: Playlist global

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We decided to do a special deep dive into the Seungri scandal, and to help us discuss the revelations of the last few months with empathy and knowledge, Rimi and LollyPip join us on the podcast. Both are ardent Kpop fans. Rimi is also a lawyer, and she sheds some light on how the law works in such cases.

Follow them both on Twitter - Rimi: @_payodhi LollyPip: @LollyPipKD

NEWEST UPDATE: A woman came forward to testify against Jung Joon Young and others on rape charges: https://www.soompi.com/article/1318428wpp/woman-testifies-that-jung-joon-young-choi-jong-hoon-and-3-others-sexually-assaulted-her-as-a-group

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Music Credits: Benhurzz - stargaze BTS - Boy with Luv MBB - Feel Good

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Hello! This Yak we wrap up two romances we loved and gush about a thriler/romance that we can't get enough of. We also talk about the fallout of the current scandals for 1N2D and if the alpha-hole trope is finally dying in Kdramas.

TIME STAMP: 00:01:17 - He is Psychometric 00:12:42 - Legal High 00:20:21 - Ms Temper and Nam Jungi 00:25:57 - Touch Your Heart/ Reach of Sincerity 00:47:07 - Romance is a Bonus Book 01:09:18 - Because it's the First Time 01:12:56 - 1N2D 01:16:46 - Your Honor 01:19:50 - I Picked Up a Celebrity on the Street 01:28:08 - “Has the jerk alpha hero trope died?”

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Welcome to the inaugural episode of our new series, 'K-dramas meet...'. This is a special one. We collaborate with the amazing hosts of The Riz Test Podcast (@theriztest), Sadia and Shaf, and discuss the history of Islam in Korea and how modern day Muslims are represented in the rare dramas we spot them in.

Follow our co-hosts on Twitter here: Sadia - @educ_research Shaf - @shaftag

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We're unpardonably late this month (thanks to my ear infection), but here's the Yak that should have come out in early March. We talk about the two romantic comedies that caught all the eyeballs in Feb, and give our final (somewhat scathing) thoughts on the ending of The Last Empress. We could have gone on (Min Yoo-ra could have taken up another hour), but we took pity on you. XP

TIME STAMPS: 00:01:46 - Romance is a bonus book 00:33:52 - Touch Your Heart/Reach of Sincerity 00:49:31 - Crowned Clown 00:58:44 - My Strange Hero 01:05:31 - The Last Empress (wrap up!) 01:25:35 - Orange Marmalade 01:28:09 - 1N2D NON KOREAN STUFF - 01:34:51 - Isn't it romantic 01:39:54 - 12 Monkeys 01:41:45 - Zindagi Gulzar Hai

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February News & Upcoming Dramas! We cover the Burning Sun scandal plus charges against Jung Joon Young & Seungri. We discuss the post dramafever landscape and At&T's future plans for streaming in the US. Also stay tuned for news about drama announcements and what's releasing in March! TIME STAMP: 00:00:00 - Seungri & Jung Joon-young charged in sexual assault and corruption scandal 00:12:35 - AT&T's grand plan post Dramafever shutdown 00:20:51 - More Kdramas on Netflix 00:30:21 - Hong Sisters cleared of plagiarism charges for Hwayugi 00:32:47 - Hong sister's new drama - Hotel Del Luna 00:34:49 - Chae Min soo indicted in road rage incident 00:37:14 - Kim Ki Duk's defamation lawsuit thrown out... & More. 00:46:23 - UPCOMING DRAMAS - He is Psychometric Kill It Doctor Prisoner Confession Laughter in Waikiki 2

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Hey guys. In 'What's up in Dramaland?' you can listen to our commentary on industry news and our speculations about the next lot of upcoming dramas.

TIME STAMP: —-NEWS 01:47 - Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food (a.k.a. Something in the Rain) leads to be reunited 04:21 - 3rd season of Voice and 2nd season of Laughter in Waikiki confirmed 06:34 - Strong Woman Do Bong-soon getting US remake 13:40 - SBS and MBC creating new Fri-Sat drama timeslot —-UPCOMING DRAMAS 18:16 - Touch Your Heart 20:29 - Legal High 21:09 - Trap 22:22 - The Light in your eyes 25:06 - Item 26:19 - Haechi 28:12 - Possessed 29:18 - Hot Blooded Priest 30:28 - Big Issue 31:34 - A question & Saya’s joke.

Patrons who support us: Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades Gracefulegg

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Our Long Yaks are getting the tiniest bit shorter. You get the drama reviews and discussions here, while news and upcoming gets its own episode under "What's Up in Dramaland?"

Thanks to all our patrons for helping us realise some of our ideas! Check out the planning notes for this month's episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/making-of-yak-24378787

kfangurl's article on Boyfriend/Encounter - https://thefangirlverdict.com/2019/01/19/dropped-boyfriend-encounter/

TIME STAMPS: CURRENTLY AIRING 00:02:27 - Crowned Clown 00:12:30 - Sky Castle 00:22:59 - The Last Empress 00:31:48 - ref Crowned Clown 00:36:51 - My Strange Hero 00:45:12 - Boyfriend COMPLETED DRAMAS 00:56:02 - Top Star Yoo-baek 01:02:50 - Memories of the Alhambra 01:29:40 - Red Moon Blue Sun 01:36:38 - Master of Study

Patrons who support us: Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades Gracefulegg

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First Long Yak of 2019!

Time Stamps: 00:01:17 - Anisa's paper on Korea CURRENTLY WATCHING DRAMAS -- 00:09:07 - MY STRANGE HERO 00:26:52 - BOYFRIEND/ENCOUNTER 00:39:21 - THE LAST EMPRESS 00:46:21 - MEMORIES 00:56:43 - JUST DANCE/DANCE SPORTS GIRLS 01:00:16 - TOP STAR YOO BAEK 01:09:47 - MY AJUSSHI 01:13:54 - RED MOON BLUE SUN 01:20:20 - TIMELESS 01:25:24 - MEN ON A MISSION 01:28:51 - YOUTH OVER FLOWERS UPCOMING DRAMAS -- 01:32:53 - THE CROWNED CLOWN 01:35:54 - NEIGHBOURHOOD LAWYER 2 01:36:53 - WHAT'S WRONG POONG-SANG/LIVER OR DIE 01:39:34 - SPRING TURNS TO SPRING 01:42:17 - KINGDOM (NETFLIX) 01:45:01 - ROMANCE IS A BONUS BOOK 01:48:09 - TOUCH YOUR HEART QS OF THE YAK -- 01:53:10 - WHAT DRAMA DID YOU HATE BUT KEPT WATCHING?

Here's a link to the video about "Da Kine" that Anisa mentions when she talks about Top Star Yoo Baek and "geoshigi". Shoutout to Dramabeans beanie PakalanaPikake for sharing it with us - thank you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxdy6SaeDTQ

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Hey guys. This is our farewell to 2018 episode. We go over all the dramas we've loved and hated with a passion. And some more that fell outside that strict category.

You can tell us about your 2018 watchlist in the comments below, on twitter (@dramasoverflow), and through email (dramasoverflowers@gmail.com).

Take a look at the free bonus episodes uploaded on patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

Say hello to our adorable patrons! Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades

TIME STAMPS: 00:03:00 - 2018 retrospective 00:10:10 - Paroma’s Honorable Mentions 00:27:43 - Anisa’s Honorable Mentions 00:29:56 - Saya’s Honorable Mentions 00:38:49 - BEST DRAMAS OF 2018 01:25:33 - WORST DRAMAS OF 2018 01:41:59 - Great Dramas We Missed This Year 01:51:25 - Non 2018 Dramas We Watched This Year 01:54:34 - Best Non Korean Dramas of 2018

LINKS: Anisa's Review - http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/12/2018-year-in-review-i-who-didnt-expect-poetry Saya's Review - http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/12/2018-year-in-review-thrill-me-heal-me

DecemberDramas Twitter Reviews - https://twitter.com/hashtag/DecemberDramas?src=hash

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In our last Long Yak of 2018, we cover a bunch of recently completed dramas, express our expectations of newly airing ones, and notice a strong theme of ableism in Korean Dramas lately - if a male lead isn't perfectly perfect in body and mind, he can't be a hero.

Join us in our #DecemberDramas one-tweet review festival on twitter (@dramasoverflow) or email us at starsinourpocket@gmail.com. Also, check out our patreon page for outtakes and spoiler discussions - http://bit.ly/SupportDOF

Have a great holiday everyone!

TIME STAMPS -

00:02:09 - Email: How to get involved in the Kdrama Fandom? 00:11:26 - Patreon shoutouts!

CURRENTLY AIRING - 00:15:27 - THE LAST EMPRESS 00:27:27 - TOP STAR YOO BAEK 00:45:13 - CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW 00:56:37 - RED MOON BLUE SUN 01:01:55 - MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA

COMPLETED DRAMAS - 01:13:14 - WHERE STARS LAND/FOX BRIDE STARS 01:30:25 - TERIUS BEHIND ME 01:34:46 - FAMILIAR WIFE 01:36:02 - BEAUTY INSIDE 01:46:15 - THE SMILE HAS LEFT YOUR EYES

UPCOMING DECEMBER DRAMAS - 01:52:29 - Fates and Furies 01:52:36 - Coffee Please 01:57:15 - Just Dance/ Dance Sports Girls 01:59:17 - The Return of Revenge

MEET OUR AWESOME PATRONS -

Egads Steven Blackmore Lia W. Kimbap Noona Hades

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This month we start off by discussing the sudden shut down of DramaFever, what this means for the international viewership, how and when the licensing wars started in the KDrama world, and how fans access dramas when official channels are unavailable. We also talk about the Canadian sitcom, Kim's Convenience, which totally counts as a KDrama in our hearts!

(Everything with a * below has a link you should check out underneath the timestamps!)

TIME STAMPS - NEWS: 00:01:17 - DRAMAFEVER Shut Down 00:34:04 - Our Episode 16 on #MeToo Was Used in a University Classroom! 00:35:28 - We Now Have a Patreon Page! CURRENTLY WATCHING DRAMAS: 00:40:01 - Where Stars Land/Fox Bride Star* 00:56:08 - Beauty Inside 01:05:32 - Terius Behind Me 01:12:35 - Player 01:17:28 - Ghost Detective 01:19:35 - Smile Has Left Your Eyes 01:29:43 - Kim's Convenience UPCOMING DRAMAS: 01:44:19 - Mama Fairy and the WoodCutter 01:46:38 - Feel Good to Die/Happy if You Died 01:48:28 - God's Quiz 01:49:56 - Top Star Yoo Baek 01:52:43 - The Priest 01:54:47 - Bad Detective 01:56:44 - Clean With Passion For Now GOODBYES: 02:04:06 - Saya's Dad Joke

THE LINKS: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers Men Behaving Badly: https://soundcloud.com/akdramapodcast/dds-men-behaving-badly *Paroma's post on Flawed Female Leads: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2018/10/19/how-fox-bride-star-is-ruining-the-flawed-female-lead/

Get in touch! Email: starsinourpocket@gmail.com DOF Twitter: @dramasoverflow Saya's Twitter: @notnowsaya Anisa's Twitter: @laica_k Paroma's Twitter: @festerfaster

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Anisa and Paroma get "greenfields" (Rimi) and "Sicarius" to come tell us why Kpop is invading the world, and how things work behind the scenes in the Korean music industry. (Links under the timestamps)

TIME STAMPS: 00:02:43 - Woes of Being a Kpop fan outside US 00:04:13 - Is Kpop a genre? 00:07:01 - Are Drama OSTs Kpop? 00:11:17 - How did you two come to this fandom? 00:16:59 - What is a Bias? 00:18:21 - Why Seventeen has 13 members 00:21:46 - Are Band dynamics scripted? 00:25:04 - Korean language lends itself well to rapping 00:27:39 - why Kpop rap is different from american/indian rap 00:32:07 - Conflict between an idol and a rapper 00:37:50 - Why are boybands more popular than girl groups internationally 00:40:46 - why do rimi and sica like boy bands more 00:44:24 - bromancey gimmicks on stage 00:46:15 - girl groups subjected to the male gaze 00:48:36 - how fangirls are maligned 00:50:54 - Toxic fandom and sasaengs 00:51:57 - When fans dictate what artists do 00:54:18 - HyunA and E'Dawn leaving Cube 00:55:52 - why companies promote fan obsession? 00:57:52 - slave contracts and lawsuits 01:01:19 - The East Light controversy 01:04:37 - why speaking the truth is hard under Korean Law 01:07:39 - Self produced artists 01:13:53 - opportunities for marginalised artists like Holland 01:17:27 - Do Kdramas portray idols well? 01:19:14 - Drama: SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND 01:20:58 - Drama: BEST HIT 01:22:52 - Suga's mixtapes about the idol trainee life 01:25:20 - Favourite Groups

LINKS:

Sicarius' post - http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/634903/

Rimi's Kpop covers - https://soundcloud.com/user-496240984/tracks https://soundcloud.com/realgreenfields/tokyo

Drama Over Flowers: Twitter - @dramasoverflow Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

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Hey guys! The Long Yak this month covers some new dramas and some that we just finished. We don't have the news or upcoming segments in this one, but we'll definitely do them next Yak. Let us know your thoughts on whatever you're watching right now!

TIME STAMPS -

CURRENTLY WATCHING 00:06:18 - Familiar Wife 00:16:50 - Terius Behind Me 00:27:04 - Heart Surgeons 00:31:01 - Life 00:36:13 - Full House (COMPLETED) 00:42:03 - Ghost Detective COMPLETED DRAMAS 00:49:43 - Thirty But Seventeen - final thoughts 01:13:04 - My ID is Gangnam Beauty 01:29:39 - Time 01:34:35 - Your Honour 01:38:24 - My Horrible Boss WRAPPING UP 01:43:45 - Joke

Support us: https://www.patreon.com/dramasoverflowers

TALK TO US: Twitter: @dramasoverflow Email: starsinourpocket@gmail.xom Or comment below!!

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We've been talking a lot about Full House on our podcasts and we wanted to let you in on what got us started. This is the audio commentary we recorded over a month back when Anisa introduced Paroma and Saya to the wonders of Rain's interesting shirt designs and Song Hye-kyo's penchant for pigtails. All of our original reactions are captured here for posterity. XD This commentary is synchronised to the episode on KBS's YouTube channel (linked below). If you watch with any other version, remember to skip the drama intro, which is about 1 min 13 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahZe60kisOc&t=1s

Follow us on twitter: @akdramapodcast Email us on: starsinourpocket@gmail.com (Note: The new name of the podcast is Dramas Over Flowers)

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Hello listeners! Stars in My Pocket will now be known as DRAMAS OVER FLOWERS! Everything you like about us will stay the same, just with a slightly easier to remember name! (Ooh, that rhymes!)

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Shorter than usual but still a pretty long yak. We're just covering currently watching dramas on this episode. Keep an eye out for "What's Up in Dramaland" making its debut in a couple of weeks where we discuss drama news and upcoming shows.

TIME STAMP-

CURRENTLY WATCHING: 00:01:40 - TIME 00:09:40 - YOUR HOUSEHELPER 00:17:13 - 30 But 17

ALSO WATCHING: 00:31:44 - FULL HOUSE 00:40:47 - MY PRINCESS 00:48:55 - 30 But 17 01:02:04 - Full House

TWITTER podcast: @akdramapodcast Saya: @notnowsaya Anisa: @laica_k Paroma: @festerfaster

MUSIC: About That Oldie (YouTube Audio Library) High (NCS - JPB)

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Hello, good listeners! For this episode, we decided to reminisce about how we got into Korean Dramas and what kept us watching these stories. We talk about our KDrama gateways and what this industry does that's so unique in storytelling. We also just ramble a lot. So, no time stamps for this episode. Don't forget to let us know what got YOU into dramas @akdramapodcast.

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Welcome to PART 2 of our 6th Long Yak! We continue our discussion of currently airing dramas, but in the Chinese Dramaworld, and then we talk about What's Wrong With Secretary Kim, and other shows we just finished watching.

TIME STAMPS:

CURRENTLY AIRING CHINESE: 00:01:12 - LEGEND OF FUYAO 00:05:03 - METEOR GARDEN COMPLETED DRAMAS: 00:18:17 - THE UNDATEABLES 00:22:19 - LAWLESS LAWYER 00:26:16 - SKETCH 00:27:49 - ARGON 00:32:19 - WOK OF LOVE 00:37:48 - WHATS WRONG WITH SECRETARY KIM? UPCOMING DRAMAS: 01:04:20 - FAMILIAR WIFE 01:06:47 - VOICE 2 01:08:35 - LOVELY HORRIBLY 01:10:02 - GHOST DETECTIVE 01:14:15 - QUESTION OF THE YAK 01:34:48 - Penguin joke

TWITTER: @dramasoverflow EMAIL: starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Hello people! We've been away for a bit, so this Long Yak ran longer than usual. Our solution was to split it in two. This is Part 1. Enjoy!

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K-DRAMA NEWS: 00:02:56 - News 1 - Kim Hyun-joong casting for Time-travel Fantasy 00:04:36 - News 2 - Jang Geun-seok 00:09:13 - News 3 - Lee Jun-ki blacklisted by previous govt 00:13:40 - News 4 - Korea bought Netflix stock 00:31:50 - News 5 - 2nd season of Kingdom 00:40:23 - News 6 - White Boys form K-pop band [article: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43px7g/the-worlds-first-non-korean-k-pop-group] CURRENTLY AIRING: 00:49:09 - MR SUNSHINE 01:04:20 - YOUR HOUSEHELPER 01:07:20 - THIRTY BUT SEVENTEEN 01:14:31 - TIME 01:19:48 - LIFE ON MARS 01:26:36 - YOUR HONOR 01:31:11 - More harassment shown in dramas

TWITTER: @akdramapodcast EMAIL: starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Sometimes we go off topic so hard that it takes a while to veer back to the main conversation. These are the outtakes we put up a few days after the episode goes up.

In this outtake, Paroma unapologetically spoils a few older dramas (and Harry Potter #6), then somehow we end up discussing Dumbledore's sexuality.

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Back with our fifth long yak, your talkative trio do their best to cover a large chunk of currently airing and upcoming dramas. Stay tuned for entertainment news and an unexpectedly long playlist full of the gang's favourite drama OSTs coming your way.

TIME STAMP: ---CURRENTLY AIRING: 00:01:00 - What's Wrong With Secretary Kim? 00:15:20 - Spoiler Warning: Skip ahead 2mins 25 seconds! 00:24:00 - Wok of Love/Greasy Melo 00:29:39 - Are You Human Too? (Link to Sarah Rees Brennan's twitter thread below) 00:38:14 - Sketch ---PREVIOUSLY AIRED: 00:43:40 - Suits 00:44:49 - Because This is My First Life 01:00:29 - We Married As A Job (Japanese) ---K-ENTERTAINMENT NEWS: 01:05:27 - Item 1: Yoon Kyun-sang's casting in Clean With Passion For Now confirmed 01:08:15 - Item 2: Kim Hee-ae movie about comfort women 01:14:29 - Item 3: Jo Jung-seok and Gummy getting married 01:16:33 - Item 4: Lee Je-hoon & Chae Soo-bin pairing up for Fox Bride Star 01:18:30 - Item 5: Crossdressing sageuk, Mung Bean 01:20:18 - Item 6: BBC shows being remade in Korean ---UPCOMING DRAMAS: 01:23:38 - HouseHelper 01:25:24 - Mr Sunshine 01:28:52 - Let's Eat 3 01:30:00 - LIFE 01:32:00 - About Her 01:32:36 - My ID is Gangnam Beauty 01:34:16 - Risky Romance 01:35:57 - Thirty but Seventeen 01:39:23 - Time ---QUESTION OF THE YAK! 01:40:49 - Which Drama OSTs have stayed with you long after the story ended?

Twitter: @akdramapodcast Email: starsinourpocket@gmail.com

LINKS: Sarah Rees Berman's hilarious thread about I Am Human Too: https://twitter.com/sarahreesbrenna/status/1007017611048218626 Our Favorite Kdrama OSTs Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdylX_UWjYvBJ4wjHZq42G4yHl9lp4-Gr

Stars in My Pocket: A K-Drama Podcast is also available at:

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXAKERzXeFhlsSrVL_qU–w), RSS (http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:429481275/sounds.rss), and iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/stars-in-my-pocket-a-k-drama-podcast/id1270514773?mt=2)

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Anisa and Paroma go deep into last year's best family drama with LollyPip (long-time recapper of korean dramas at Dramabeans). All three had much to say (and there were many, MANY characters to talk about) so this episode runs to just over 100 minutes. Pace yourselves. And use the Time Stamps below to find the segments where your favourite Byung/Lee family member (or their better half) was discussed!

TIME STAMP: 00:01:36 - Overall thoughts on the drama (Spoiler alert: WE LOVED IT) 00:04:59 - Maknae Ra-young, her robotic but sweet soccer player, and how she grew on Anisa 00:06:49 - Lee Joon as self-involved but adorable Ahn Joong-hee 00:12:58 - Our thoughts on the central identity theft plot. Were the parents justified in their lie? Do we hate them on Joong-hee's behalf? 00:25:03 - Mom and Dad taking the moral high ground when their children messed up. Hypocrital? Or good role models? 00:29:44 - Lee Yu-ri as Byun Hye-young and how everything she was amazing/badass 00:39:50 - Kim Yoo-joo (Lee Mi-do) as the bully sister-in-law, and her surprisingly effective redemption 00:47:45 - The fauxcest between Joong-hee and Mi-young. Did it go on too long? 01:04:35 - Fairytale endings for all the characters. Did we buy it? 01:18:32 - How the family treated the eldest brother. 01:24:52 - How fake news about Lee Joon in real life mirrored the paparazzi's behaviour around Joong-hee in the drama 01:33:30 - We love the writing, and the writer’s other works (You’re All Surrounded, Ojakkyo Brothers, Be Strong Geum Soon) 01:39:17 - The recapping life, and making career choices that surprise your parents.

Music: Coffee Stains - Riot https://youtu.be/sz7To0GgAgM My Heart - Kim Hyung-joong (Father is Strange OST)

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We love talking to each other, so we digress a lot. This is one of the many segments Paroma edited out of our last Long Yak. We talk about living with our families, which Jane Austen heroine we identify with (and Anisa hates), and how relevant Austen's fiction still is in modern-day Pakistan.

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In this Long Yak we cover some K-Entertainment news, our impressions of upcoming dramas, and our struggles and hopes for currently airing ones! We also give our final thoughts on Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food and A Poem A Day. One of them was rainbows and sunshine and puppy kisses. The other...was not. As always, check out the shownotes below to find your catnip, and tell us what you thought of these dramas on twitter (@akdramapodcast) or by email (starsinourpocket@gmail.com).

SHOWNOTES: 00:01:27 News Item #1 - Lee Seo-won charged for sexual assault 00:07:58 News Item #2 - Sequel to Signal in the works! 00:08:56 News Item #3 - Lead Hunting For Clean With Passion For Now 00:12:10 News Item #4 - Seo In-guk back from Army and cast in Hundred Million Stars From the Sky 00:16:06 UPCOMING JUNE DRAMAS: Are You Human Too? 00:20:00 What's wrong with Secretary Kim? 00:25:12 Life on Mars 00:33:24 Grandpa's over flowers 00:35:20 RECENTLY FINISHED WATCHING: Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food 00:48:52 A Poem a Day 01:02:09 Age of Youth 2 01:04:17 CURRENTLY AIRING: About Time 01:08:13 Wok of Love/Greasy Melo 01:15:42 Lawless Lawyer 01:19:38 Suits 01:23:00 Sketch 01:26:38 Rich Man Poor Woman 01:36:45 Question of the YAK: What scene have you watched on repeat?

LINKS (coming up)

Blog: akdramapodcast,wordpress.com Twitter: @akdramapodcast Email: starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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We give you our first impressions of the initial 4 episodes of the breakout weekend drama, Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food, also known as Something in the Rain.

Podcast Hosts ► Saya, Anisa, Paroma Blog: akdramapodcast.wordpress.com twitter: @akdramapodcast

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Anisa discusses instances of private and workplace harassment in Korean Entertainment with Odessa Jones and Pogo, and they unpack the public's reaction to the rise of the #metoo movement in South Korea. They also talk about toxic tropes, why we love to watch them play out, and how storytelling is changing in recent years. (The final segment has some really great recs for anyone looking for swoony heroes without jerk-syndrome!)

BLOG: akdramapodcast.wordpress.com TWITTER: @dramasoverflow

SHOWNOTES: 00:00 Intro 02:50 Director Kim Ki-duk and Actor Jo Jae-hyun (admitted to sexual assault charges) 03:20 Actor Jo Min-ki (committed suicide after news of student harassment surfaced) 08:45 Anisa talks about English language reporting on Korean Entertainment news 10:00 How Actor Park Shi-hoo's career was rehabilitated despite the rape charges 11:50 Pogo briefly refers to the 2012 case in Delhi that triggered a wave of news coverage on sexual assaults in India. 12:50 Anisa talks about the ineffectiveness of laws against workplace harassment in the US 17:45 Pogo speculates about a KBS's investment in Park Shi-hoo's career. 19:25 Why weekend dramas? Most Ajummas don't care about feminism. 25:05 The Kim Hyun-joong case 29:30 Can art be separated from the artist? 43:50 Men Behaving Badly in Dramas 53:50 In fiction, the "hero's journey" for women has always been romance. 60:40 Rise of the Beta Heroes! (AKA Second Lead as First Lead) 1:02:99 Writer Kim Eun-sook (Secret Garden, City Hall, Descendants of the Sun, Goblin) 1:21:20 Writer Jung Sung-joo (Secret Love Affair, Heard it Through the Grapevine) 1:23:00 Writer Kwon Ki-young (Protect the Boss, All About My Romance, Hello Monster) 1:24:55 Writer Ha Myung-hee (High Society, Doctors, Temperature of Love, One Warm Word) 1:26:20 Writer Park Yeon-sun (Alone in Love, White Christmas, Wild Romance, Age of Youth 1 & 2) 1:30:00 How many dramas tackled corruption and the legal system after former Prime Minister Park Geun-hye's arrest, and whether we think the same thing will happen with #MeToo

Links: Allegations against Kim Ki-duk and Jo Jae-hyun - https://www.screendaily.com/news/kim-ki-duk-cho-jae-hyun-accused-of-multiple-sexual-assaults/5127278.article Jo Min-ki - https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/mar/09/jo-min-ki-south-korea The Park Shi-hoo rape case - https://www.soompi.com/2013/02/20/park-shi-hoos-alleged-victim-was-carried-into-his-home-other-updates/ His comeback with Neighborhood Hero, and a lawsuit against netizens - https://www.soompi.com/2016/02/01/actor-park-shi-hoo-takes-legal-action-against-netizens-leaving-malicious-comments/ Delhi 2012 rape case - https://www.ndtv.com/delhi-news/nirbhaya-gangrape-case-supreme-court-decision-on-appeal-of-4-convicts-today-1689807 Odessa Jones' piece about men crying in k-dramas - http://www.koreandrama.today/watch/k-drama-man-tears/ PM Park Geun-hye's sentencing - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/06/former-south-korea-president-park-geun-hye-guilty-of-corruption

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Anisa, Saya, and Paroma talk about recently airing dramas, shows they chose to stop watching, and KDrama's tendency to value emotions over plot development. Also, drama recs!

01:15 - Poem A Day 17:47 - Suits 30:40 - DNF'd dramas: Great Seducer 31:25 - DNF'd dramas: Shall We Kiss First 33:16 - DNF'd dramas: Switch 36:18 - Depiction of marijuana in Suits 39:01 - Is the frequency of sexual assault plots in recent dramas a result of the #MeToo movement? 39:44 - Japanese Drama: Signal 44:54 - Are Korean Dramas overly emotional? Paroma compares The Liar and His Lover with its source material and thinks it comes up short. 47:19 - Why some dramas choose to focus on emotions and leave the plot behind. Saya uses The Great Seducer as a likely culprit. 50:11 - Chinese Dramas: Only Side By Side With You 52:57 - Question of the Yak: What will make you drop a drama immediately?

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We dive deep into what is probably the best "Robot drama" of a year full of dramas about Robots, and we have a very insightful guest to help us wade through all the ways in which this show was truly awesome. Meet (Beanie) Lee Tennant.

Blog - https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/ Twitter - @akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Welcome to Part 2 of this month’s Long Yak. Here we move away from our usual Korean fare and check out some new and old Chinese dramas that have caught Paroma’s attention and imagination. We also cover some Japanese anime and dramas, and then introduce a new segment: questions we want to ask each other! And we end, of course, on Saya’s terrible (but inevitable) monthly dad joke AKA “ajusshi gag”.

Shownotes -https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/podcast-ep-12-the-long-yak-part-2-nirvana-in-fire-a-love-so-beautiful-love-020/

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This month on our Long Yak we cover hot new dramas Misty and The Great Seducer. We also talk about Queen of Mystery 2 and whether it lives up to the promise of the first season. Doctors and some other older dramas come up as we swap recommendations...and then we run out of time. So, you can catch Paroma's foray into Chinese Wuxia dramas in PART 2 - which will be out tomorrow!

Shownotes - https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2018/04/12/podcast-ep-11-the-long-yak-part-1/

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In this episode we take a slight detour from our regular programming to squee about Black Panther, because we love it.

Shownotes - https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2018/03/25/podcast-ep-10-black-panther-deep-dive-special/

Twitter - @akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Welcome to our first monthly Long Yak. Here we discuss currently airing dramas, shows we're finally catching up on, and other matters that may or may not be related to binge-watching. Follow our time-stamped shownotes here: https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/podcast-ep-9-the-long-yak-im-not-a-robot-hwayugi-just-between-lovers-mother-shownotes/ Twitter - @akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Join Saya, Laica, and special guests SailorJumun and Chickachunga for a spoiler-filled deep dive on 2017's Forest of Secrets!

Blog - akdramapodcast.wordpress.com Twitter - akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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In our first throwback episode we talk about obsessive love and Ji-sung’s kisses in 2013’s breakout revenge melo, Secret or Secret Love. Joining us in examining what makes a good revenge drama is Odessa Jones from koreandrama.today. Shownotes - https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2017/12/28/podcast-ep-4-secret-2013-k-drama-wrap-up-throwback-edition-with-show-notes/ Twitter - @akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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Saya, Paroma and Laica discuss School 2017, about a group of students who struggle to make their dreams come true in a system where everything seems set against them, while a mysterious vigilante named X commits acts of rebellion against corrupt school officials. Join us as we go back to school, and experience once again the highs and lows of being eighteen. Blog - https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/ Twitter - @akdramapodcast Email - starsinourpocket@gmail.com

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This week in While You Were Sleeping, Kitten Killers and Crafty Defense Attorneys bring on the heat for our heroes. Jae-chan can see a case derailing before his eyes but he’s unable to stop it because the law must follow its course. Meanwhile, Hong-joo is back on her job and unhappy about her first assignment. Shownotes - https://goo.gl/NtnRfr

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While You Were Sleeping has finished its second week, and we return to discuss the story so far. Jae-chan and Hong-joo are joined by a third clairvoyant, Woo-tak, who’s happy to delve into the mystery behind their gift and ferret out the truth. Meanwhile, Jae-chan learns an invaluable lesson at work. Shownotes ► https://goo.gl/tEXEyp Podcast Hosts ► Saya and Paroma (AKA festerfaster)

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We discuss the first four (half-hour) episodes of While You Were Sleeping, the latest drama from star writer Park Hye-ryun of "I Hear Your Voice", starring Lee Jong-seok and Suzy. She dreams of bad things that are going to happen in the future, and he's an awkward prosecutor who struggles to keep these visions from coming true. Listen to find out if our own dreams of this being our next crack drama have come true!

Podcast Hosts ► Saya and Paroma (AKA festerfaster) Shownotes ► https://goo.gl/dU3jQ7

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Saya and Laica discuss the first four episodes of Live Up to Your Name (also known as Deserving of the Name), the currently airing drama starring Kim Nam-gil and Kim Ah-joong. The drama follows an Eastern Medicine doctor from Joseon times who jumps 400 years into the future to modern Seoul. Find out their initial thoughts on this unique time-slip drama!

Shownotes ► https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/first-impressions-live-up-to-your-name/ Podcast Hosts ► Saya and Laica (AKA Anisa) Podcast Producer ► Paroma

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First in our series of First Impressions — Saya and Laica do a short review of the first four episodes of Manhole (Feel So Good). This series of video podcasts will focus on shows we start with some expectations and the rising happiness or plummeting disappointment we experience in the first few weeks, as we realise what the true potential of the drama is. Shownotes ► https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2017/09/12/first-impressions-manhole/ Podcast Hosts ► Saya and Laica (AKA Anisa) Podcast Producer ► Paroma (AKA festerfaster)

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The K-Drama, Fight My Way has ended, and we here at SIMP have a lot of feelings about this story of four underachieving twenty-somethings. Join us as we air our delights and grievances. Also, welcome our newest member, Laica (AKA Anisa).

|Show Notes ► https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2017/09/14/podcast-episode-2-fight-my-way/ |Follow us on Twitter ► @akdramapodcast |Podcast Hosts ► Saya, Festerfaster, and Laica

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Welcome to our first K-drama podcast episode. Here we talk about our favourite weightlifting fairy, the absence of toxic masculinity in her love interest, and the many dramas that have given us hope and shredded our hearts with their portrayals of female protagonists.

|Podcast Hosts ► Saya and Festerfaster |Podcast Editor ► Paroma AKA Festerfaster |Show Notes ► https://akdramapodcast.wordpress.com/2017/09/06/podcast-episode-1-with-show-notes/

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SAYA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

OUR DRAMA YEAR

PERSONALLY RELEVANT DRAMAS

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