Get A Proper Job: Recent Episodes

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For creative workers who care about the issues that matter, Get A Proper Job is a podcast that discusses, debates and showcases the highs and lows of working in a creative job or organisation. Bringing together industry experts to share new knowledge and thinking.

Get A Proper Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

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In this episode of Get a ‘Proper’ Job, host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Becky Davies; Theatre Designer, Artist and Creative Access Coordinator, and Chris Hill; Green Manager for Film Cymru Wales. They discuss the future of work in the creative and cultural industries and focus on some of the new jobs which are emerging to address societal issues.

This episode was recorded remotely in August 2021.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Editor: Beca Nia Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

Links

  • Taking Flight theatre company
  • ALBERT
  • Future Generations Act
  • Welsh Government programme for government
  • One Planet Cardiff
  • Our Creative Place
  • Green Cymru
  • Tin Shed Theatre Company – Rocket Launch, Blaenavon

Recommendations

  • The Tate sensorium
  • Cineregio network sub group green regio
  • David Attenborough Blue Planet

Download a transcript of this episode here.

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In the third episode of the third series of Get a ‘Proper’ Job, host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Gillian Mitchell; Chief Executive of National Youth Arts Wales and Dr Sita Thomas; a Theatre Maker, Channel 5 Milkshake Presenter, Artistic Director of Fio, Creative Associate at Wales Millennium Centre, and also a Trustee at the Young Vic Theatre and Emergency Exits Arts. They discuss leadership and the creative and cultural industries, diversity within leadership roles, and what qualities make a great leader.

Links and more information

Emergency Exit Arts

Fio

Chwarae Teg

Guest recommendations

Baljeet Sandhu - The Lived Experience Movement

The Privilege Café

Jude Kelly – Desert Island Discs

This episode was recorded remotely in August 2021.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Editor: Beca Nia Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the second episode of the third series of Get a ‘Proper’ Job, host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Jessica Dunrod, a translator, author, activist and director of the only black owned translation firm in the UK; as well as the creative producer, award winning filmmaker, cameraman and editor Jonny Campbell, who also has a background in architecture. They discuss their eclectic career portfolios, transferable skills and the evolution of their creative careers.

Links and more information

  • Outstanding by Jessica Dunrod
  • Jessica Dunrod’s Go Fund Me page
  • Ambassadora
  • The doll test
  • How might screen-based media enable people to better engage with their built environment and meaningfully contribute to its design?

Guest recommendations

  • Enterprise team at Cardiff University
  • Canva

This episode was recorded remotely in August 2021.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Editor: Beca Nia Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the first episode of season three of Get A 'Proper' Job host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Kayed Mohamed-Mason, a Tik Tok apprentice for Cardiff-based advertising agency S3 advertising and Rebecca Campbell Managing Partner for Agency Development at S3 Advertising about the future of work in the creative and cultural industries. Particularly, new types of roles which we might see in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Links and more information

  • S3 Advertising website
  • How to stay on top of emerging tech trends - Nesta
  • The Creative Digital Skills Revolution – Creative Industries policy and Evidence Centre
  • Kayed’s TikTok account Kill em with Kayedness
  • S3 TikTok account
  • Gender neutral makeup brand – Vulcan & Vixen
  • Foster Wales

Guest recommendations

  • Institute of Practitioners in Advertising (IPA) Awards
  • Adobe channels on TikTok

This episode was recorded remotely in August 2021.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Editor: Beca Nia Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the final episode of season two of Get A 'Proper' Job host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Kathryn Lewis, Strategic Lead for curriculum reform and expressive arts at the Central South Education consortium and Music Technologist, Composer and Sound Designer Alex Rees, who is an Arts Council Creative Agent and host of the Creative Learning podcast, about the new Welsh curriculum with a focus on the Expressive Arts.

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictions in August 2020.

  • The Donaldson review
  • The Curriculum for Wales and free educational tools and materials
  • Creative Learning podcast

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the fifth episode of season two of Get A 'Proper' Job host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Prateeksha Pathak, a postgraduate researcher at Cardiff University and a participant on the entrepreneur scheme, Ymlaen! and Claire Parry-Witchell, Student Enterprise Business Mentor at Cardiff University about the importance of developing entrepreneurship to the future of the creative industries.

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictions in August 2020.

  • Ymlaen! scheme
  • A Covid-19 boom in student start-ups? - Claire’s Parry-Witchell
  • Business Wales support
  • Rabble Studio
  • Coworking Collective
  • IPSE
  • Kashmir Untold archive
  • Creative Wales
  • Wales Arts Review

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the fourth episode of season two of Get A ‘Proper’ Job, host Kayleigh Mcleod chats to Ali Abdi, Partnership Manager for Community Gateway, and recent graduate from the School of Journalism, Media and Culture, Alexia Barrett about the transition from young creative to creative worker.

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictions in August 2020.

Links and more information

  • XR University podcast
  • Citizens Wales
  • Information about the Arts Council of Wales Cultural Contract
  • Creative Access
  • Into Film
  • Galswhograduate group chat
  • ItsmyShout
  • Creative Careers Cymru Programme

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In the third episode of series two of Get A 'Proper' Job host Kayleigh Mcleod talks to Kelly Barr, Arts and Creativity Programme manager for Age Cymru and Professor Chris Speed, Chair of Design Informatics at the University of Edinburgh about the rapid move to digital for creative workers as a result of COVID-19.

This episode focuses on who and where creatives can reach with digital content and how to measure that engagement.

Links and more information:

  • Welsh Government report Connected Communities |
  • The guide to Virtual events from Creative Informatics |
  • 'I just felt so forgotten' - the impacts of digital exclusion |
  • cARTrefu

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictions in August 2020.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode two of series two of Get A 'Proper' Job, we talk about the impact of COVID-19 on the live music industry. For this episode, we have a particular focus on festivals and the creative businesses who are suppliers to the industry.

We chat to Bernie Plain, company director of rehearsal and recording studio Musicbox Studios, and Lucy Squire, head of Music for the University of South Wales.

Links and more information:

  • Music Venues Trust REVS document (reopen every venue safely)
  • Lost Horizons festival - integration of VR
  • Gisburne park festival – the UK’s first socially distanced festival.

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictions in August 2020.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode one of series two of Get A 'Proper' Job, we talk about the way creatives interact with policy makers and inform the decision processes for how creative workers are supported.

We chat to Krystal Lowe - dancer, choreographer, writer and Artistic Director of Kokoro Arts Ltd - and Fabio Thomas - Project Researcher for Birmingham-based engagement and insight agency.

You can read the Wales Freelance Taskforce report, Rebalancing and Reimagining – strategies to support arts and performance freelancers here.

This episode was recorded remotely due to COVID-19 restrictionsin August 2020.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode six of Get A 'Proper' Job, we have an extended episode which focuses on socio-economic barriers to accessing jobs in the film and TV industry in South Wales and initiatives which look to widen access.

We chat to Faye Hannah, an academic researcher focused on policy, workforce and access in the screen industries in Wales, Arts Department Assistant Norman Porter and Sian Harris from the commissioning team at BBC Wales.

Full links as discussed in this episode here.

This episode was recorded in January 2020.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode five of Get A 'Proper' Job, Dr Sam Murray, Lecturer in Music Business and Arts Management at Middlesex University London, shares his thoughts on what makes a Music City.

We then chat to Cardiff's very own DJ Monique B, a DJ , singer songwriter and member of female five piece Baby Queens, about what music in the city means to her.

You can listen to Monique's first solo single, Put It On You featuring Reuel Elijah, here.

This episode was recorded in December 2019.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode four of Get A 'Proper' Job, Gemma Collins - Business Growth Enabler at NatWest - talks about The Rose Review on Female Entrepreneurship.

We then discuss the report with Andrea Callanan, founder of Inspire Me and international best selling business author.

You can read more about the Rose Review, which was launched on International Women's Day in 2019, here.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode three of Get A 'Proper' Job, we hear from Professor Gareth Loudon, who is a professor of Creativity at Cardiff School of Art & Design at Cardiff Metropolitan University about the links between creativity and wellbeing.

We then discuss this with screenwriter and novelist Matthew Hall, who wrote Keeping Faith, and artist Katherine Sheers.

You can read more from Gareth on how purpose links creativity to wellbeing.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode two of Get A 'Proper' Job, we hear from Dr Dimitrinka Stoyanova Russell of Cardiff Business School on her research with Nick Butler - No Funny Business: precarious work and emotional labour in stand-up comedy.

We then have a chat with comedian Steffan Evans, who responds to Dimi's research. Steffan has ‘taken the Welsh comedy scene by storm’ since he first started performing in 2016. He’s supported Elis James on tour, worked on tv and online and appeared at festivals all over the UK with shows including Tales from Wales and If I Die Right Now.

You can watch a vodcast about No Funny Business here.

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.

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In episode one of Get A ‘Proper’ Job, we hear the latest research on creative labour rights for digital content makers from lecturer in digital media studies Dr Francesca Sobande of the Cardiff School of Journalism, Media and Culture. Influencers Mark Tregilgis and Jess Davies then respond to this research laid out by Francesca.

Jess is a Welsh lifestyle blogger and vlogger who has worked with BBC Wales, S4C and Orchard. Jabber with Jess is her curated corner of the internet - a safe space for sharing thoughts, opinions and views.

Mark is a personal trainer and founder of 30 Plus Men’s Fitness. His bootcamps are located all over the UK but he also has an online community of members around the world. He has built his brand using social media, podcasts and video content.

Here is a link to an article from Francesca which is particularly relevant to what she discussed during the podcast recording:

  • (currently open access in IPPR Progressive Review and featured in the Wiley Politics special issue on the top political research: UK Election 2019):Memes, digital remix culture and (re)mediating British politics and public life: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/newe.12155

Get A ‘Proper’ Job is made by city network Creative Cardiff, with and for, the creative community.

This podcast is recorded at the School of Journalism, Media & Culture at Cardiff University.

Presented by: Kayleigh Mcleod. Series producer: Vicki Sutton. Studio engineer & editor: Ffion Clarke. Music by: Tic Ashfield. Artwork by: Hoffi.

You can follow Creative Cardiff on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and LinkedIn to find out more about our work or join the Creative Cardiff network.