Ordinary People: Recent Episodes
Peter Jones
Welcome to ‘Ordinary People’ the podcast that provides a platform and voice to ordinary people by bringing together a diverse panel to discuss and educate on the issues of today & tomorrow in a free exchange of culture, thoughts and ideas.OP brings together a panel of Ordinary People from differing backgrounds and points of view to discuss societies current, historic & emerging hot topics and challenges.We provide a safe platform to enable the safe expression of balanced, open and honest views as Ordinary People do in every day life.We discuss important issues but avoid the FB or Twitter style one dimensional keyboard debate or rhetoric.OP searches for clarity, rationale & understanding - together. Therefore we journey together and become better informed and educated together.Being tolerant of other views, being open minded to other ideals, but not afraid to present or accept harsh truths is how we lead. We aim to be exemplars of social discourse for Ordinary People.
The UK has a world class National Health Service but is it fit for purpose for everyone?
Considering black people have served on the front line of the NHS in large numbers for over 6 decades, what are the origins of the mistrust in our NHS?
Almost too much to cover. Not almost, it was........ more to come
HenriettaLacks #BLM #DiversityandInclusion #Community
Host:
Peter Jones - Host and Founder of Ordinary People
Contributors:
Zuleika Lebow - Educator, Artist and Cultural Producer
Elicia Chantiluke - Poet, Mother with 30+ years Nursing experience
Eve Alexander - IT L&D Consultant
Cliff Faulder - CEO AboutFace Training
What does a more equal society look like - can we envisage it ?
Would we know when we have an equal society - how will we know ?
These and more questions are discussed and debated with a diverse panel from different backgrounds and with differing points of view. Making for a very engaging listen.
You can expect a very open, candid and passionate debate throughout in a search for common ground and agreed solutions to address the issues supporting inequality and segregation.
Host:
Peter Jones - Host and Founder of Ordinary People
Contributors:
Steve Preistnall - Founder & Director, ONQU Automation & Support
James Byng - Education Specialist
Ryder Shafique - Poet, Musical Producer, Artist and Content Creator
Max Cookhorn - Educator and Sportsman
As a mixed race person in the UK, how does it feel to be part of the conversation, on both sides ?
It is something that many of us will not have to consider or have to be aware of - “Based on my dual heritage what should i be doing or thinking and how much of an influence is my family or families on my BLM point of view”
Hosted by:
Mary McDowall - Co-Founder, Learning Solutions Matter
Contributors:
Steve Michael - Small Business Owner
Melissa Jones-Jackson - Financial Accounting
Zuleika Lebow - Educator, Artists and Cultural Producer
Ordinary People has put together a panel of mixed race individuals and asked them to discuss, "What impact has the BLM movement had on your views about life as a mixed race person in Britain"
What we get is something far more revealing in terms of participation, identity, colourism, introspection to a degree that no other ethnic group have to go. If you have never wondered what it might be like to be in the middle and asked to choose a side !! Then you need to listen to this piece of education.
Hosted by:
Mary McDowall - Co-Founder, Learning Solutions Matter
Contributors:
Steve Michael - Small Business Owner
Melissa Jones-Jackson - Financial Accounting
Zuleika Lebow - Educator, Artists and Cultural Producer
Racism can be most simply understood as someone behaving differently towards another person based on the colour of their skin or culture. But are there other definitions or degrees of Racism.
In this episode we ask the question to our guests who have differing life experiences or come from different communities. The result is an interesting spectrum of views, some not shared or appreciated but undeniably heartfelt.
Host:
Peter Jones- Founder of Ordinary People Education
Contributors:
Kirk Dawes - Chairman Birmingham Rockets Basketball
Graham Moffitt - Retired Police Officer
Roy Grey - Business owner
It’s been 10 years since the introduction of the Equalities Act 2010 which was meant to protect people from discrimination in the workplace and in wider society. Ordinary People asks a panel of guests to discuss what’s happened.
What is the evidence that DEI has made a difference to the workplace, to employment opportunity and to society for people of colour ?
Host:
Peter Jones- Founder of Ordinary People Education
Contributors:
Mary McDowall - Director, Learning Solutions Matter
Cliff Faulder - CEO, AboutFace Training
James Byng - Specialist Leader of Education
“I think whites are carefully taught not to recognize white privilege, as males are taught not to recognize male privilege.” Peggy McIntosh “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” 1988 essay
What is your understanding of White Privilege?
How do you think it impacts the non-white community ?
Another Ordinary People panel discusses the benefits and disadvantages of the ‘White Privilege’ phenomena.
Host:
Peter Jones - Founder of Ordinary People Education
Contributors:
Helen Bandcroft - Corporate Skills & Employability
Esther Passingham - Development Officer, Voscur
Mark Rice - Leadership & Development Coach
Steve Michael - Founder and owner, Senior Home Solutions
Take a journey into he realm of the Black Woman. Listen to 4 black women tell you what it has been like to be a black woman in British society.
At one time or another we have all either said or thought that black women are the backbone and strength within the black community. That may well be true but what are the effects of heaping so much expectation, responsibility and obligation on them as individuals and equals.
Have society and black men in the main abdicated their own responsibility based on “The Myth of the Strong Black Woman” ?
Guest Host: Evelyn Alexander
Contributors: Mary McDowall, Elaine White & Mabowunje Harrison
Ordinary People discuss the importance, or not, of retrospectively reviewing the status of Songs, Statues and TV programmes to achieve equality in a multicultural society.
How far would a review need to look and what impact would that have on historically revered figures in British society.
Who would be best placed to conduct a review, how would they be chosen and what could we expect as a result of this type of review?
Host: Peter Jones
Contributors: Barry Knott, Eve Alexander, Max Cookhorn & Earl Hibbert.
Not before time, we get to hear what the younger generation think about this era of Social Discourse and Black Lives Matter.
Raw and unfiltered as you would expect but with a few surprises. I’ll shut up and let the Millennials speak for themselves.
Guest Host: Melissa Jones-Jackson
Guest Panel: Naomi Allen, Luwke Snape
OP continues the conversation from Episode 3, giving the listener further food for thought from our expert panel of guests. 3 of whom have had first hand experience of working for organisations pivotal to the perception of inequity for black and ethnic people in society.
I’m eternally grateful to those guests for their openness, honesty and integrity brought to Ordinary People enabling us to share with you this objective account of the way it was then and now.
Host: Peter Jones
Core contributors: Earl Hibbert, Max Cookhorn
Guests: Graham Moffitt, Kirk Dawes, Elaine White
In this episode the panel discuses their take on the aspirations of the BLM movement, outline their hopes for a new dawn as-well as openly expressing neg ativity / positivity and concerns about how successful the movement may eventually be or what it will realistically achieve.
Host: Peter Jones
Contributors: Naomi Allen, Max Cookhorn, Eve Alexander & Earl Hibbert
We ask the same question this time to a panel of white British 'Ordinary People' eager to share and discuss what BLM means to them personally. We explore what kind of insight BLM has given them, what impact it has had on their behaviour, their views and their family.
Host: Peter Jones
Contributors: Esther Passingham, Nick Jones & Helen Parker
In episode 4 we invited a panel of white UK citizens to address the same question that we posed to an all black panel.
Listen to their responses, lived experiences, shared concerns and hopes around black lives matter.
- Have the protests improved race relations?
- Will your interracial relationships endure?
- How have employers reacted to the Black Lives Matter movement?
Host: Peter Jones
Guest Panel: Helen Parker, Barry Knott & Adam Bridgland
In Episode 3 we have not one but two ex serving policemen joining the group for a discussion about some of the most contentious issues of social discourse.
We ask:
- Does Institutional racism exist.
- Is there any justification for black people having a negative image of the Police.
- Are the Police justified in targeting black people more than any other Group in stop and search Incidences?
We discuss experiences, bias, how police interpret intel and data used to police our streets, prevent and investigate crime.
Host: Peter Jones
Core contributors: Earl Hibbert, Max Cookhorn
Guests: Kirk Dawes, Graham Moffitt
With an exclusively black panel -
In this session we explore whether the protests have improved race relations and we are developing a better understanding of one another?
Also will your interracial relationships endure?
We ask; how have employers reacted?
Host: Peter Jones
Core contributors: Evelyn Alexander, Earl Hibbert & Maxwell Cookhorn
"Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come" - accredited to Victor Hugo, a 19th century French novelist and poet. This could be applied to the BLM global movement.
It certainly appears that the BLM movement has come of age judging by the response from people all over the world - different races, different generations, different social backgrounds all in unison to demand change following the high profile killing of George Floyd.
In this, our very first episode, I ask a panel of 'Ordinary People' to share and discuss what BLM means to them personally. We explore what kind of insight BLM has given us, brought to the surface and hung out for all to see. I examine the impact the BLM movement has had on their views about life as a black person in Britain.
Host: Peter Jones
Core contributors: Evelyn Alexander, Earl Hibbert & Maxwell Cookhorn