Livid Ladies: Recent Episodes
Julie & Jane
Welcome to Livid Ladies, the podcast where two rage-filled friends process their trauma, reflect on their Orthodox Christian upbringings, share some ridiculous stories, and discuss the things that make them livid. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lividladies/support
Jane & Julie discuss the potential medical, psychological, and overall health benefits of marijuana. They also share their personal experiences with skunky college weed vs. medical-grade cannabis and discuss the pros and cons of weed as outlined in current scientific research. Plus, as always, the Ladies share what they are livid about and living for.
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From getting a driver's license, to sex before marriage, to calling out their codependent relationships, Jane & Julie reflect on their own journeys to independence.
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Jane & Julie wrap up their Pride Month Miniseries by exploring the small (but hopefully expanding) community of people who are LGBTQ+ affirming within the Orthodox Christian Church. Also, Julie reads two LGBTQ+ affirming articles from Orthodoxy in Dialogue, an independent Orthodox blog. If you are Orthodox and Queer, you are not alone.
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Jane & Julie discuss the gender spectrum and the sexual orientation spectrum. They also explore different gender identities (e.g., non-binary identities) and the plethora of existing attraction types (e.g., sexual, romantic, aesthetic). The Ladies even share their own hangups and self-identified areas of growth. Join in on a candid and vulnerable discussion, and please reach out with any comments or feedback! The Ladies are always looking to learn.
Resources mentioned in the episode:
64 Terms That Describe Gender Identity and Expression - https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders
Fatal Violence Against the Transgender and Gender Non-Conforming Community in 2021 - https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021
46 Terms That Describe Sexual Attraction, Behavior, and Orientation - https://www.healthline.com/health/different-types-of-sexuality
ASEXUALITY, ATTRACTION, AND ROMANTIC ORIENTATION - https://lgbtq.unc.edu/resources/exploring-identities/asexuality-attraction-and-romantic-orientation/
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In honor of Pride Month, Jane & Julie discuss how the LGBTQ+ community is seen in the (Orthodox) Christian Church. Is "homosexuality" a "sin?" What does the Bible REALLY have to say? And what the heck is "arsenokoitai??" Explore these questions and more on this episode of the Livid Ladies!
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Jane and Julie explore their Post-Pandemic Bucket List. From getting a new watch battery to taking a creative writing class to going to a Miley Cyrus concert together, the Ladies get excited about the future, reflect on lessons they've learned over the course of a year in quarantine, and make predictions about how the pandemic will change daily life.
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Jane & Julie discuss Obsessional OCD (aka "Pure O OCD") -- a disorder marked by intrusive thoughts and mental compulsions. They talk about the origins and symptoms of this disorder and reflect on its possible connection to religion. The Ladies also explore effective treatment modalities for Pure O (what's that about holding knives to throats!??) and share their own successes in managing anxiety.
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Jane & Julie get livid as they discuss society's unhealthy perspective on sleep, the "Sleep Crisis", some eye-opening science about sleep, the connection between sleep problems and anxiety and depression, tips for falling and staying asleep, and how daylight savings time is killing people.
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Jane & Julie discuss the difference between guilt and shame, shame's impact on mental health, the unique ways in which women experience shame, and the ways in which religion and culture perpetuate shame.
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Jane & Julie delve into distress tolerance and the world of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). They talk about helpful and unhelpful ways to deal with unpleasant emotions and share their favorite distress tolerance skills. Other topics of discussion include Borderline Personality Disorder, being triggered by family members (and husbands!), and practical ways to manage emotions (spoiler: you don't have to pick up the phone every time mom calls).
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Jane & Julie discuss Orthodox Easter (aka Pascha), which falls on May 2nd this year. Jane explains why Pascha is on a different day than "regular" Easter, and the Ladies share childhood memories of the Feast Day. Topics of note include church cliques, hours-long midnight services, and fasting from water. The Ladies also reflect on creating their own Easter traditions.
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Jane & Julie define the term "values" in the context of mental health and check in with each other about their progress in that work. Jane acknowledges some mental blocks brought on by her religious trauma, and Julie shares what led her to start taking antidepressants. Plus the Ladies discuss why the world seems to be on its period.
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Jane & Julie discuss the power of positive affirmations and their ability to encourage self-soothing and address unhelpful thoughts. The Ladies also discuss antidepressants, The Inner Critic, and religious origins of the negative default of our brains. They also share some of their own favorite affirmations and mantras.
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The Livid Ladies are finally concluding their miniseries on the Seven Deadly Sins, and they saved the best for last. In this episode they talk about a sin that is near and dear to their hearts: WRATH! Is anger a sin? What does helpful vs. destructive anger look like? Find out on this episode of the Livid Ladies!
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Jane & Julie discuss the penultimate Deadly Sin of gluttony. Julie teaches Jane about binge eating disorder and shares some of her own experiences with it. The Ladies also dig into the topics of overconsumption, stress eating, and the problematic concepts they were taught as kids about fasting, sin, enjoyment and suffering.
Resources discussed in this episode: https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/learn/by-eating-disorder/bed
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The ladies discuss sloth -- not the cute, furry animal, but ~laziness~. Topics of discussion include depression, excessive comfort, the pros and cons (mostly cons) of the monastic life, suffering versus enjoyment, and how identity is tied to the goals one sets for oneself.
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Jane & Julie take a break from their regularly scheduled programming to go off on a RANT consisting of topics such as difficult family dynamics, mental health and psychosis, setting healthy boundaries, and self-care. You don't want to miss this! Please note: the end of this episode features some echoing on Jane's voice. We're not sure what caused this issue, but we are working on a solution. We apologize for any distress this causes your ear holes.
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Jane & Julie continue their miniseries on the Seven Deadly Sins. Fourth on the list: Envy. The Ladies dig into the difference between envy and jealousy, how comparison, competition, and resentment factor into the equation, as well as whether envy is ever rooted in reality, and how karma is definitely a bitch.
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Jane & Julie continue their miniseries on the Seven Deadly Sins. Third on the list: Lust. This episode turns sexy as The Ladies discuss crushes, porn, masturbation, cheating and other sexual desires, what they counted as "lustful sins" growing up in the Orthodox Church, and redefining the term "lust" for themselves now.
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Jane & Julie continue their miniseries on the Seven Deadly Sins. Second on the list: GREED! The Ladies discuss tithing, whether billionaires are hoarders, the role rich people play in society, what they would do with a million dollars, complacency, and the solution to greed. Bonus: the Ladies get livid about Ted Cruz and rude in-laws!
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Jane & Julie start a miniseries on the Seven Deadly Sins in honor of the Lenten season. First up: pride! The ladies discuss what they were taught about pride as children, "sinful" pride vs. healthy pride, the difference between pride and narcissism, fighting narcissism with empathy, and the things they are most proud of.
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Jane & Julie discuss all things Valentine's Day: love languages, lingerie, Valentine gifts, and helpful vs. unhelpful ways of seeking love. PLUS Jane gives us the lowdown on St. Valentine.
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Jane & Julie discuss the importance of journaling and read from some of their old diaries! Other random (but loosely related) topics of discussion include: a bachelorette party from hell; why meth isn't a "party drug;" a nightmare about giving confession; the ineffectiveness of parental Internet controls; childhood beliefs about what makes an "ideal husband;" middle school and high school crushes; and dealing with snooping parents.
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Jane and Julie talk about Inauguration Day, the gift that is Amanda Gorman, how Obama is a babe, their excitement and hopes for Biden's presidency and the country's future, as well as the moral dilemmas surrounding a hypothetical Trump apology. As usual, the Ladies wrap up with a COVID Corner, and a Livid/Living Segment.
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Jane and Julie define and discuss spiritual trauma and share their own personal experiences with it. Topics of discussion include environmental and systemic factors that breed spiritual trauma as well as ways to deal with such trauma within a religious context.
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Jane & Julie discuss New Year's resolutions and ways to set realistic and achievable goals. They also discuss toxic goal-setting such as "humble-bragging" on social media as well as dangerous diet culture. PLUS the Ladies give you some incredible life tips (Don't eat icicles!!)
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Jane & Julie say goodbye to 2020 and reflect on the past year. They discuss:
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Their favorite Livid Ladies episode
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One lesson learned this year
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Biggest change experienced in their personal lives
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Their greatest areas of growth
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Two achievements they are most proud of
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Favorite TV show or movie of 2020
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Favorite album or song of 2020
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And their favorite memories from 2020
Happy New Year everyone!!
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Jane & Julie discuss their favorite holiday memories and childhood toys. In addition, they reflect on why it might be a good idea to be politically correct during the holiday season (spoiler alert: PC culture keeps you from being an asshole!), and they also discuss the problematic gendering of children's toys. And -- as always -- the Ladies end with their Livid & Living Segment.
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year everyone!!
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Jane & Julie get festive as they discuss all things Santa Claus: the good, the bad, the ugly. They ponder questions like, "Is it OK to 'lie' to kids about Santa?" and "Is believing in Santa the same as believing in religion?" PLUS Jane graces us with a story about Saint Nicholas of Myra and his reported anger issues.
Happy Holidays everybody!!
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Jane & Julie discuss how their parent's views on success affected them, their shifting perspectives on what it means to be successful, and the role happiness plays in that context.
Mentioned in the Episode: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/unhappy
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Jane & Julie discuss spiritual practices, religious trauma, and the difference between being "spiritual" vs. "religious." The Ladies also discuss prayer, religious hypocrisy, problematic faith practices, the afterlife, and the (progressive) Christian faith. And -- as always -- the Ladies end the episode with a Livid & Living Segment.
Faith Resources (Disclaimer - These are Christian resources):
Brad Jersak (author, teacher, monastery preacher): https://bradjersak.com/
Wm. Paul Young (author): http://wmpaulyoung.com/
Sister Joan Chittister (American Benedictine nun, theologian, author, activist, and speaker): https://www.joanchittister.org/
Podcasts:
Nomad Podcast (progressive Christian podcast based in the UK -- great interviews with a variety of theologians): https://www.nomadpodcast.co.uk/
The Deconstructionists Podcast (a podcast about building new faith): https://thedeconstructionists.com/
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Jane and Julie discuss what Thanksgiving traditionally looked like for them growing up and during the Before Times. They dive into the pros and cons of having a Gratitude Practice which devolves into a bonus discussion about prayer!
How Gratitude Changes You and Your Brain
7 Scientifically Proven Benefits Of Gratitude That Will Motivate You To Give Thanks Year-Round
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Jane and Julie discuss all things anxiety: development, symptoms, coping strategies, and related disorders (like panic attacks, OCD, and major depression). And, as always, the Ladies wrap up with a COVID Corner and a Living & Livid segment.
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Jane and Julie discuss their first experiences with partying and tell some stories from college. Bonus: Jane, the Queen of Parties, gives us tips and tricks for throwing the best possible get-together.
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Jane & Julie discuss the presidential election and what they learned about civic engagement and the government while they were growing up.
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Jane & Julie discuss all things supernatural and share personal stories of (possible) encounters with the spiritual world.
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Jane & Julie discuss how boundary-setting is challenging, scary, and necessary. They share their own experiences with boundary-setting and reflect on their successes and failures. Bonus: The Ladies share some much needed laughs during their "Livid & Living" segment.
How to Set Healthy Boundaries: 10 Examples + PDF Worksheets
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Jane & Julie talk about their struggles with body image and eating disorders, and the role fasting, family, and the church played in exacerbating those issues.
**Trigger Warning: If you struggle with disordered eating, body dysmorphia, or body image issues, this episode may be triggering for you. Please proceed with caution or skip this episode altogether.
Helpful Resources:
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/help-support
https://www.eatingdisordertherapyla.com/reading-resources/
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Marriage, kids, the perfect partner - Jane & Julie discuss it all as well as what love actually looks like. (It's hairy legs.)
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Jane & Julie discuss a sexy surprise, the NOT cute repercussions of inadequate sex ed, and very first dates. They also reflect on unhealthy needs for connection and attention.
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Jane & Julie discuss their first dating experiences and navigating their romantic interests under the shadow of the Orthodox Christian worldview. Bonus: Jane goes on a tangent about confession.
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Grab a drink and join in the first ever Livid Ladies Happy Hour as Jane and Julie reflect back on getting their first tattoos (together!), and discuss the Church's stance on tattoos and what they learned about body art and piercings as children.
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Jane and Julie talk about racism, BLM, and police brutality. Topics of discussion include White privilege and White guilt; why it's so hard to talk about race; childhood experiences with race and identity; self-educating and fighting everyday implicit bias/systemic racism; and what we can do to be anti-racist White people.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
- Just Mercy (Film) - justmercyfilm.com
- Research Article: Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex (PNAS)
- Alternatives to Calling the Police (Article) - Unitarian Universalist Association
- What To Do Instead of Calling the Police (Article) - United Against Police Terror – San Diego
- "Do Not Look Away" (Quote) - Dr. Ronald Bell
- Nice White Parents (Podcast) - This American Life
- Uncomfortable Conversations With A Black Man (Videos) - Emmanuel Acho; uncomfortableconvos.com
Other resources:
- Community Resource Hub - communityresourcehub.org/resources
- National Suicide Hotline: 800-273-8255*
- Crisis Text Line: Text START to 741-741
- The Trevor Project (LBGT+): 1-866-488-7386
- Trans Lifeline: (877) 565-8860
- Undocumented and Immigrant Hotline (ENG, SPA, KOR, POR): 855-435-7693
- National Youth Crisis Hotline: 800-448-4663
- Sexual Assault Hotline (ENG, SPA): 800-223-5001
- National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800−799−7233 | 800-787-3224 (Deaf/Hard of Hearing TTY)
*Be aware some lines like NSH can redirect information to EMS or law enforcement if they think the person in crisis is deemed to harm themselves or others due to mandatory report policy
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Jane and Julie talk about their therapeutic journeys and reflect on the childhood messages they received regarding therapy and mental health. Other topics of discussion include postpartum psychosis, attachment trauma, misconceptions about therapy, and "doing the work."
Resources mentioned in this episode:
Postpartum Resources:
Postpartum Support International Helpline: 1-800-944-4773
Postpartum.net
Action on Postpartum Psychosis
Anti-Racism Resources:
University of Washington - Race & Equity Initiative
Medium - A Detailed List of Anti-Racism Resources
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Jane and Julie reflect back on their friendship, give their younger selves advice, and share their hope and vision for the podcast.
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