Two Chicks and a Hoe: Recent Episodes

Vanessa Rogier

We’re gonna dig deep into some really amazing people and topics — cultivating ideas about nature, the environment and conservation — in your backyard and globally. We want to share stories with you where the only intention may be for you to say,“Wow, I didn’t know that!”…and now that you do, maybe you might think about your relationship with it differently, share the information with a friend or get involved.

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The power of a simple question can change everything.
When a man named Isaac approached our cleanup team in Ewaso Ngiro, Kenya, and asked, “Can you give me the tools to clean up my side of town?”—none of us could have predicted what would follow. That single question launched Project PickUp (phase 2), a community-led movement that’s now reshaping how waste is handled in rural Kenya.

In this episode, Vanessa sits down with Justin Imamura and TJ Lauters of The Trash Punx and Therese Hjelm of Sabore’s Well to reflect on their recent return to Kenya—two years after their first trip—to help open an Upcycling Center that’s now in local hands.

From hilarious travel stories (beware “the rat”—aka complete exhaustion—and Nairobi traffic!) to powerful moments with changemakers like Violet, who makes reusable diapers in Kibera, and the welder whose life changed simply by being next door to the Upcycling Center—this episode is packed with laughter, heart, and global perspective.

At its core, it’s about what happens when environmental solutions are community-led. The Upcycling Center doesn’t just reduce waste—it creates jobs, replaces tree-cutting with recycled plastic fence posts, and models conservation that doesn’t leave people behind.

Join us for this raw, joy-filled conversation about listening first, staying curious, and trusting what can unfold when we say yes to the messy, beautiful work of creating change—together.

🌍 Want to support this work? Check out the links to the people and projects mentioned.

The Trash Punx
Sabore's Well
Violet Ochieng'
Ocean Sole

Interview with: Therese Hjelm, TJ Lauters & Justin Imamura

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Think rats are pests? Think again. Meet the HeroRATs — a team of highly trained Giant African Pouched Rats saving lives around the world. Through the nonprofit APOPO, these intelligent rodents are sniffing out landmines, detecting tuberculosis, and even helping stop wildlife trafficking.

In this episode, we dig into how these whiskered heroes work with astonishing accuracy and speed—clearing minefields in places like Cambodia, Angola, and Azerbaijan, and screening up to 100 TB samples in just 20 minutes in Tanzania and Ethiopia (a job that would take a lab technician a week!) They're also being trained to help in disaster zones and uncover illegal smuggling routes.

Smarter than you'd think, lighter than dogs, and far less expensive, HeroRATs are flipping the script on what it means to be a lifesaving partner. And yes—they get monthly vet visits, retirement plans, and plenty of playtime.

This is the story of courage, compassion, and the unexpected allies changing the world one sniff at a time.

APOPO

Interview with: Erin Sackett
Thank you to APOPO for images

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Horses have a unique ability to heal, inspire, and empower, and Bridle Up Hope harnesses this power to create life-changing experiences for women and girls. In this episode, we introduce you to Rosemarie Rubalcava-Stokes and Sally Ford, the visionary women behind Bridle Up Hope in San Jose. Joined by my dear friend and hiking companion, Vikki, we explore their transformative program that combines equestrian training with Stephen Covey's The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People.

Born out of Rachel Covey's passion for horses, Bridle Up Hope has grown into a global movement dedicated to helping participants build confidence, manage emotions, and unlock their inner strength. Through a supportive 14-week course, women and girls from all walks of life find growth, community, and joy in equine-assisted learning.

This episode also dives into the inspiring personal journey of Rosemarie, a retired veteran who discovered a new calling with the help of this program. With activities like dance, art, and meaningful interactions with horses, Bridle Up Hope is proving that healing and empowerment can take many forms. Tune in to hear how horses and habits are changing lives, one stride at a time.

Bridle Up Hope

Interview with: Rosemarie Rubalcava-Stokes and Sally Ford
Thank you to RebeccasPictures for photo.

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Imagine a sanctuary where over 1,800 stray dogs roam freely in the lush mountains of Costa Rica, living lives filled with joy and dignity. Join us as we uncover the remarkable journey of Territorio de Zaguates, a haven founded by Lya Battle and Álvaro Saumet, where love and compassion reign supreme. From spaying and neutering to rehabilitating even the most aggressive dogs, this episode promises to inspire with heartwarming tales of transformation and second chances for our furry friends.
Legislation and government hurdles present significant challenges, but they also ignite our determination to push for change. We explore how countries like the Netherlands serve as models for tackling stray dog populations, while also addressing the ongoing scrutiny faced by Lya's farm. Through community support and small daily acts of compassion, we emphasize the importance of spreading love—both to animals in need and our own pets—creating a kinder world where every dog receives the care they deserve.

Territorio De Zaguates: Land of The Strays

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What if spending time in nature could significantly improve your mental and physical well-being? In our latest episode, we explore the transformative practice of forest bathing with our esteemed guest, Kira White, a certified forest therapy guide. With her background in psychology and education, Kira will walk us through how immersing oneself in a forest environment can reduce stress, enhance mood, and promote overall health. Broadcasting from the serene East Foothills of San Jose, we discuss the origins of forest bathing in Japan and its scientifically-backed benefits, emphasizing the importance of reconnecting with nature in our increasingly urbanized lives.

Join us as we uncover the structured yet open-ended process of forest therapy. Guided by certified practitioners, participants embark on a journey that begins with a calming meditation to quiet the mind and awaken the senses. Through a series of gentle invitations, like observing what is in motion, individuals disconnect from daily distractions and connect deeply with the natural world. The experience culminates in a heartfelt council share, fostering vulnerability and community among participants. We also highlight the flexibility of forest therapy, adaptable for diverse group sizes and activities, from leisurely strolls to invigorating hikes.

We also delve into the nuances that set forest bathing apart from traditional hiking. This mindful practice emphasizes presence and connection with nature rather than reaching a destination. We share personal stories of connecting with trees and the therapeutic benefits of spending quiet, intentional time in nature. Discover how forest therapy has gained popularity worldwide, adaptable even in urban settings. Finally, we reflect on the profound personal significance of trees and conclude with a serene reading of Mary Oliver's poem "When I Am Among the Trees," reminding us to slow down and embrace the beauty of the natural world.

Forest photo courtesy of: InkWell_Literary

Kira White's website – Forest Bathing Collective
Forest Bathing in Japan
ForestBathingfinder.com
Association of Nature & Forest Therapy

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What does it take to bring a species back from the brink of extinction? Join Vanessa from "Two Chicks and a Hoe" as she welcomes Monica Fox, a dedicated veterinary technician at the Oakland Zoo, to share the incredible comeback story of the California condor. Discover the awe-inspiring journey of North America's largest bird, whose wings span an impressive 9 to 10 feet, and learn about the unique features that help this majestic creature thrive.

From the desperate days of the 1980s, when the condor population plummeted to just 22 birds, to the groundbreaking conservation efforts that have helped their numbers rebound, Monica provides a riveting account of the challenges and triumphs in the battle against extinction. Hear about the pivotal role of captive breeding programs, the ongoing fight against lead poisoning, and the innovative solutions like copper bullets that are making a difference. It's a testament to what can be achieved through collaboration and dedication.

In this episode, we celebrate significant milestones, such as the first wild-hatched condor chick since the population crisis, and highlight the vital ongoing efforts that ensure the survival of this iconic species. Whether you're a wildlife enthusiast eager to spot these magnificent birds in their natural habitat or someone interested in the broader implications of conservation work, Monica's insights will inspire and inform. Tune in to understand the power of teamwork in conservation and how you can contribute to the noble cause of preserving the California condor.

California Condor Picture donated for use by: Tim Huntington
Check out his site: webnectar.com

US Fish and Wildlife Service
California Department of Fish & Wildlife
Los Angeles Zoo
San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance
Oakland Zoo
Ventana Wildlife Society
Peregrine Fund
Yurok Tribe

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Can wildlife corridors save species from the brink of extinction amid the relentless pace of human development? Two Chicks and a Hoe brings you an eye-opening conversation with Dana Page, a wildlife biologist from the San Francisco Bay Area, who sheds light on the vital role these passageways play in preserving biodiversity. This episode explores how corridors are essential for the movement, genetic diversity, and survival of species such as caribou, wolves, mountain lions, and even salmon. Dana offers her expert insights into the fragmentation of habitats, illustrated vividly with the challenges faced by mountain lions in the Santa Cruz mountains.

Ever wondered how amphibians like the California newt survive their perilous migrations across busy roads? We discuss a striking example at Lexington Reservoir, where these newts brave Alma Road to reach their breeding grounds. Hear about the innovative measures being taken by local agencies to design safe crossings, including the intriguing concept of underground tunnels. Dana shares the engineering intricacies involved and the importance of considering species-specific behaviors.

From apex predators to pollinators, every species plays a crucial role in maintaining ecological balance. This episode delves into the interconnectedness of ecosystems and the cascading effects when key species are removed. The episode highlights the indispensable roles of mountain lions in regulating prey populations and how small creatures like salamanders contribute to soil health. The conversation also touches on practical conservation efforts, such as planting native milkweed for monarch butterflies and creating green roofs to support biodiversity.

Santa Cruz Puma Project
Building the Largest Wildlife Crossing in the World
26 Most Important Wildlife Crossings Across the Globe
Milkweed Resources – Milkweed Watch “Engaging Citizens in Science”
Coyote & Badger video

Interview with: Dana Page

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Unlock the secrets of the land with wildlife biologist Dana Page, as she guides us through the rejuvenating embrace of 'good fire' in forest management. Step inside the world of prescribed burns, where each flame is a careful calculation for conservation. Together, we'll dismantle the fears surrounding controlled burns and marvel at the intricate dance of destruction and regeneration, orchestrated to protect our natural landscapes.

From the ancient echoes of cultural fire management to the modern halls of policymaking, Dana Page weaves a tale of how indigenous wisdom is rekindling its rightful place in ecosystem balance. We traverse the complex path of integrating this ancestral knowledge into current conservation strategies, navigating the constraints of modern bureaucracy. Through the smoke, we glimpse the revitalizing power of fire, as it clears invasive species, nurtures biodiversity, and safeguards the future of our forests.

The episode culminates in a deep exploration of the practicalities of fire in conservation, from strategic firefighting techniques to their ecological consequences. Dana explains the art of using firelines and backburning to create natural barriers, ensuring the safety of both flora and fauna. The dance of fire in our ecosystems is a delicate balance, one that we are learning to master with the guidance of those who have listened to its crackling song for millennia. Join us as we fan the flames of this vital conversation.

Tribal and Indigenous Fire Tradition

Interview with Dana Page

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Have you ever watched the sunset alongside a furry friend and felt an unparalleled sense of connection? That profound companionship is what we explore in our latest heart-stirring conversation, where Genesis Rendon from Project Street Vet reveals how the love between pets and their unhoused owners transcends all barriers. Our discussion honors the incredible work of those who provide health care to pets of the unhoused in Los Angeles, bringing to light emotional tales that exemplify resilience and the strength of the human-animal bond.

The streets tell stories of loyalty and survival, and in this episode, we share the journey of Justin and his cat Um, whose lives were transformed through the kindness of strangers and the medical expertise of compassionate veterinarians. We unpack the misconceptions about homeless pet owners and discuss how Project Street Vet, inspired by Dr. Kwane Stewart's vision of non-judgment, offers a lifeline to these precious relationships. The tales we share are a testament to the shared humanity and the lengths to which people will go to protect their animal companions.

As we wrap up our conversation, we shine a spotlight on the transformative impact of community-driven initiatives that extend a helping hand to pets in need. From Skid Row to the LA riverbed, we reflect on how these programs have fostered human connections and built a sense of community. The episode is a tribute to the unbreakable bonds we form with our pets and the heroes who work tirelessly to ensure that no animal is left behind, regardless of their owner's circumstances.

Project Street Vet

Interview with: Genesis Rendon

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Imagine living a life where your yearly trash fits into a single mason jar. Sounds like a tall order? Not to Heather Bedy, our special guest and Zero-waste sage, who joins me to inspire you with the notion that a near-zero waste existence isn't just a pipe dream—it's an attainable reality. We dissect the lifecycle of disposable coffee cups to uncover the significant environmental toll they take and then pivot to the inspiring actions of families who've mastered the art of minimal waste. Heather and I dig into the idea that the choices we make every day, no matter how small, can steer us towards a more sustainable future and drive manufacturers to consider the planet in their production methods.

Have you ever faced the mystery of what to do with your plastic waste? This episode doesn't just skim the surface of our plastic predicament; it provides a treasure map to navigate the jungle of sustainable living. We'll walk you through a world beyond the blue recycling bin, where refusing, reusing, and repairing become your new best friends. Heather and I explore the power of individual habit changes, like carrying a reusable water bottle or shopping in bulk, to mold a lifestyle that's as kind to the Earth as it is rewarding for you. While we acknowledge some adjustments might seem daunting, we're here to assure you that each step, however small, propels us closer to a healthier planet.

Dive into the potential of a circular economy and the transformative recycling programs that are putting a dent in our waste woes. We spotlight trailblazers like Brightmark, who turn plastics into fuel, and Terra Cycle's heroic efforts to recycle the unrecyclable. Sharing my personal 'trash audit' experience, we get real about what we're tossing out and how we can shift our habits for the better. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a call to action, encouraging you to take the first step—no matter how small—toward a zero-waste lifestyle. It's about being part of a community that values mutual care and respect for our shared environment. So tune in, get inspired, and begin your journey to a cleaner, greener tomorrow.

Recycle Nation
RecycleNation is the the number one technology tool in the United States to improve environmental sustainability and circular economy initiatives and features the world’s largest recycling database
The Trash Punx
Terra Cycle
Recycle the Unrecyclable
Baby Steps Toward a Zero-Waste Home
At Home Trash Audit Steps
Great activity to do as a family!

Interview with: Heather Bedy

Tile Image: John Cameron

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When Alex Mondragon, known under the spotlight as Belladonna, stepped into the world of drag, a bold tapestry of self-expression unfurled before them. Their journey, marked by the trials of growing up non-heteronormative and the quest for acceptance, is the beating heart of our latest episode. Through a candid conversation, Alex shares how drag became more than just an art form—it was the lifeline that anchored them in a community that celebrates identity and challenges societal norms, weaving a narrative that reaches beyond personal transformation to touch on broader cultural shifts.

Each of us has a story etched in the struggles and triumphs of finding who we are, but for those in the LGBTQ+ community, these tales often come with the weight of societal pressures and the search for safe havens. Our episode delves into the impactful role media representation and drag culture play in shaping queer identities, and the stark contrast between mainstream acceptance and the censure faced by LGBTQ+ displays of affection. Alex's reflections provide a raw look into the intricate dance of reconciling personal identity with the expectations of family and society, and how the embrace of drag culture can not only foster self-acceptance but also serve as a vibrant act of rebellion and celebration.

Beneath the glitter and glamor of drag lies a foundation of mentorship, resilience, and hope—a community that extends its hand to those grappling with depression and seeking solace. We uncover the invaluable connections formed through drag, the mentorship from drag moms, and the inclusive nature of the art that transcends not only gender but also the boundaries of the LGBTQ+ community. This episode is a mosaic of stories; from Alex's life-changing encounter with a drag queen to the competitive yet united spirit of drag performers, we celebrate the transformative power of drag to create a beacon of love, acceptance, and solidarity for all who find themselves within its radiant embrace.

The Trevor Project
LGBT National Help Center

Interview with : Alex Mondragon aka Belladonna

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Ever wonder about the intricate journey of your morning java? Prepare to have your curiosity quenched. We sat down with coffee expert and industry innovator, Mariana Faerron Gutierrez, owner of Tico Coffee Roasters, to explore the complexities of the coffee industry. Brace yourself for a stimulating conversation as we traverse the terrain of coffee origins, growth methods, and environmental impact. Uncover the secrets behind the world's second most traded commodity and the factors that influence the taste of your favorite brew.

Mariana doesn't stop at the beans - she dives deep into the challenges that the coffee industry is currently facing. From climate change disrupting coffee production to the decreasing number of coffee pickers due to migration and low wages, Mariana offers a first-hand account of these pressing issues. She also sheds light on the influential role women play in coffee production, sharing her personal mission to empower women through her work in the field.

We also scratch the surface of sustainable farming and conscious consumption. Mariana reveals the critical importance of sustainability in coffee farming, advocating for consumer awareness and fair trade practices. As we uncover the significance of agriculture certifications and their impact, you'll realize how vital it is to be informed and involved in the coffee industry. This episode is brimming with insights, perfect for coffee lovers and conscious consumers alike. Brew a pot, sit back and soak up a conversation that will change how you view the humble coffee bean.

Tico Coffee Roasters

Interview with Mariana Faerron

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Ever contemplated the impact of discarded flip flops on our marine life? Get ready to have your eyes opened as we connect with Erin Smith, CEO of Ocean Sole. In this enlightening episode, Erin pulls back the curtain on the global crisis involving these seemingly innocuous footwear items that are wreaking havoc on our oceans.

Strap in as Erin walks us through the journey of these discarded flip flops- from poverty-stricken areas to the vast oceans, and to the coastlines of Kenya. She paints a vivid picture of how hot emerging markets contribute heavily to the flip flop debris in our oceans due to poor waste management and lack of infrastructure. Most intriguing is the journey of these flip flops, carried by the currents to our beaches, ending up as a significant part of marine debris.

But it's not all doom and gloom. Ocean Sole is transforming this crisis into an opportunity. Hear how this organization gives new life to discarded flip flops by turning them into breathtaking pieces of art. Discover the unique challenges and innovations involved in this process, and the uplifting impact it has on local communities. From providing jobs to promoting environmental awareness, this inspiring tale of turning waste into wonder will leave you in awe. Join us in this inspiring journey as we learn how art and sustainability can come together to make a difference. You're definitely going to say, "Wow, I didn't know that!"

Ocean Sole

Interview with: Erin Smith

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Get ready for an inspiring discussion with the renowned conservationist, Dr. Laurie Marker, as she delves into the complex challenges confronting cheetahs today. Cheetah Conservation is not solely about saving these majestic big cats; it's also an exploration of the human-driven factors shaping their existence. Dr. Marker will enlighten us on the profound impact of our actions, from climate change to poaching, on this magnificent species.

Imagine living outside protected areas, dodging threats at every corner. This is the harsh reality for cheetahs. Dr. Marker's extensive knowledge and passion for these creatures shine through as she shares insights on their perilous existence. It's not all gloom though. We also explore the commendable work done by the Cheetah Conservation Fund to ensure the continued existence of the cheetah. Together, we investigate the illegal wildlife trafficking and discuss the unforeseen complications of keeping wild animals as pets.

Lastly, we shift our focus to the future. Cheetah conservation isn't a sole effort. It's a collective responsibility, and we learn about the unique initiatives making a difference. We talk about livestock protection programs in Africa, the essential role of livestock guarding dogs, and how you can get involved with cheetah conservation. So grab your headphones, join us on this enlightening journey, and discover what it truly takes to preserve these awe-inspiring creatures for future generations.

Cheetah Conservation Fund
Meet Dr. Marker at Upcoming Events

Interview with: Dr. Laurie Marker
Note: After this interview I started work with the Cheetah Conservation Fund.

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Meet Paul Thomas, a front-of-house sound engineer who became an animal rescue hero during the pandemic. With his touring skills, a van, and a lot of love for dogs, Paul crafted an innovative solution he calls 'Roadies and Rescues'. This incredible initiative transports rescue animals from overpopulated areas to places with fewer animals, giving the animals a second chance at life, while providing purpose for those in the concert industry affected by the pandemic.

Our conversation traces the evolution of Roadies and Rescues, revealing how challenges can give birth to extraordinary opportunities. As the pandemic wreaked havoc on the touring industry, Paul turned to volunteering at a senior dog sanctuary in Petaluma. His love for dogs and his touring skills merged as he began relocating rescue animals, becoming part of the rescue by relocation movement. We also evaluate the lasting impact of the pandemic on the touring industry and explore how Paul's transport program for Second Chance Pet Rescue became a beacon of hope.

Our dialogue also underscores the deep bond between humans and dogs and how it could be harnessed for the benefit of the music industry. With a vision of backstage doggy play yards at Coachella, we discuss the abundant opportunities to raise awareness about adoptable dogs, overcrowding issues in local shelters, and the potential for rescue dogs to aid in mental health. Join us for an enlightening conversation where the world of touring merges with animal rescue, creating a harmonious symphony of hope and second chances.

Roadies & Rescues Facebook
Roadies & Rescues GoFundMe

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Did you know there's a surprising connection between gorillas and cell phones that's impacting the environment and wildlife in a major way? That's what we uncover in today's episode with our guest, Eric Ronay, founder of Eco-Cell, a cell phone recycling company helping to make a positive change in the world. Eric shares his journey into the world of cell phone recycling, the shocking statistic that 91% of the world's population owns a cell phone, and how 416,000 cell phones are discarded every day.

We explore the various approaches to reducing the harm to gorillas from cellphone mining, including pre-consumer education, culture change, partnerships with zoos, and engaging with local populations. Eric also discusses the new program, Gorillas on the Line, a keeper-led cell phone recycling initiative aimed at raising awareness about the connection between consumers and gorillas. Plus, we delve into the importance of understanding what happens to our electronics when we send them away to be recycled.

Lastly, we discuss the impact of technology on wildlife and the potential for creating a gorilla-safe cell phone that would help protect these vulnerable species from the environmental harm caused by our devices. Learn how you can make a difference by being mindful of your consumption and join us in this fascinating conversation with Eric Ronay about the connection between gorillas and cell phones.

Eco-Cell
Cell phone recycling drop off locations
Gorillas on the line
Gorilla Species Survival Plan
Virunga National Park
Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund

Interview with: Eric Ronay

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Have you ever judged someone before truly getting to know them? We sat down with Ronni Abergel, founder of the Copenhagen based The Human Library, to discover how the power of conversation can challenge stereotypes and prejudices. We delved into the importance of understanding diversity and fostering connection through open dialogue with people from diverse backgrounds and experiences.

Ronni shared his insights on navigating grief and the role The Human Library plays in helping those coping with loss. He opened up about his personal journey following the sudden loss of his wife and highlighted the significance of finding comfort from others who have experienced similar situations. We also explored the process of becoming a volunteer "human book" and the ways readers can access these unique stories from all over the world.

In our thought-provoking discussion, we emphasized the value of connecting with people who are different from us and the power of understanding diversity. By hearing and understanding each other's stories, we can foster connection and break down barriers. Don't miss this inspiring episode that will undoubtedly make you say, "Wow! I love this idea!"

The Human Library

Interview with: Ronni Abergel

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Billions of us rely on our cell phones, and every year we are tempted and encouraged to get the next best upgraded version . . . and many of us do. But can an electronic gadget have an impact on wild gorilla populations?

What is the connection between gorillas and your cell phone?

We’re going to be chatting with a man that has been working with Zoos across the United States to bring awareness to this connection. Could we get to a point where cell phone providers might one day offer ‘Gorilla Safe’ cell phones?! Do we need that? Yes!
Join us for a fascinating conversation with Eric Ronay, a Gadget Recycler and Ape lover that has been grappling with millions of discarded cell phones for over 20 years.

Eco-Cell
Cell phone recycling drop off locations
Gorillas on the line
Gorilla Species Survival Plan
Virunga National Park
Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund

Interview with: Eric Ronay

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Plastic pollution poses a significant threat to our environment. Single-use plastic is manufactured to last forever, yet is often used for only a few minutes, before being thrown away. 

But this episode isn’t really about trash - it’s about hope and what a small group of people can do to start a change.  

It’s not about tackling the island of plastic floating in our oceans it’s about working with a small town in Kenya to create stewardship for their home.  

The Trash Punx

Sabore’s Well

Interview - Justin Imamura & Sabore Ole Oyie

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Part 3 of a 3-part interview with the “Bee Man”. 

Honey. If you ask people what they think of when you say the word ‘honey’ - guarantee you, you will get a different answer from each person.
So, what is honey and how do bees make it? It’s way more complicated than you may think and totally fascinating!

Willow Glen Honey
Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation
National Wildlife Federation - Backyard Habitat Program
Pollinator Partnership
Pollinator Friendly Plant lists

Interview with Steve Demkowski  

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Part 2 of a 3-part interview with the “Bee Man”. 
Bees have been declared the most important living beings on this planet. Recent studies have shown a dramatic 90% decline in the bee populations in the last few years. The uncontrolled use of pesticides, deforestation or lack of flowers are the main reasons for their extinction.

Don’t give up! Not all hope is lost - Steve tells us why bees are so important and what we can do to help them. 

Willow Glen Honey
Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation
National Wildlife Federation - Backyard Habitat Program
Pollinator Partnership
Pollinator Friendly Plant lists

Interview with Steve Demkowski 

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Can water be so powerful that it can actually change a culture?

See how bringing water to a village has changed the entire culture of a Maasai community from opportunities for an education, having time for their families and providing water to the wildlife.
Women and girls are more likely to be responsible for collecting water for their family. In 2017, women and girls were responsible for water collection in 8 out of 10 households without onsite water supply.
On today’s episode we have the pleasure of chatting with a couple of amazing people that are changing a culture with water.

Sabore's Well

Interview with:  Co-founder of Sabore’s Well, Therese Hjelm and Maasai Warrior and Elder and also the co-founder of Sabore’s Well, Sabore Ole Oyie. 

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First of a 3-part interview with the “Bee Man’, Steve Demkowski, about the species recently declared the most important species on earth - bees.   

Bee sex is way more amazing than it sounds - for example, the male honeybee’s ejaculation is so strong we can hear it and his penis explodes after mating! 

Yep, that’s just the beginning of the fascinating sex life (or death) of bees. 

willowglenhoney.com

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Language - it’s so much more than the spoken word of humans. 

There are so many ways to communicate - words and sounds, visually, touch, smells and energy. We don’t communicate in the same ways, yet can we trust each other if we communicate differently? Can we relate? Can I understand you? 

Connecting with other species is taking place all around us - all the time. 
Join long time animal professional, Heather Vrzal, as we discuss communicating with other species. 

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Umuganda is an unknown practice to most of the world, but not to the small East African country of Rwanda. Rwandans have used this centuries old practice of Umuganda as one of the successful tools in rebuilding the country after the 1994 genocide. It’s a key factor in contributing to its capital city, Kigali, becoming the cleanest city in Africa.  

Hear about Umuganda and the impact it has had on an entire nation.

Nyandungu Eco-Park

Visit Rwanda 

Things that make you say "Wow"!
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Bats and tequila?  What? Yes!
How can the conservation of this flying mammal have anything to do with the elixir known as tequila? We think you’re going to be so surprised to find out their connection and there is no better person to tell you about this relationship then world renowned National Geographic explorer, Ecologist and Senior Professor at the Institute of Ecology at the University of Mexico, Dr. Rodrigo Medellin. 
Salud - salt or no salt, come enjoy the party!

Where to find Bat Friendly Tequila
Tequila Interchange Project
Siembrasuro Foundation
Bat Conservation International

Things that make you say "Wow"!
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We’ve always wanted to know and yet could never quite figure it out, even with the diagrams!  We found the perfect people to help us out, The Naughty Zookeepers, animal experts that are here to chat about the fascinating sex life of birds.

The Naughty Zookeeper’s Twitch

Things that make you say "Wow"!
For more episodes and additional information visit the Two Chicks and a Hoe website and our Facebook page.
Big thanks to our Producer, Casey Kennedy.