Writing on the Walls: Recent Episodes

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The Writing on the Walls podcast features conversations between host Rob Hlavaty and guests who either have lost a loved one to suicide or struggled with their own suicidal thoughts. In addition, Rob meets with leading experts in mental health, suicide research, substance abuse, and related fields to better understand the root causes behind the rising rates of completed suicides and suicide attempts.

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This episode is brought to you by C&C Resourcing (link below). C&C Resourcing provides one-on-one business coaching, customized training seminars, and continuing education around creating safe spaces for survivors of suicide loss.In this episode, Rob meets with Sarah Gaer. Sarah is a licensed clinician, author, speaker, and thought leader. She also speaks very openly about her experience as a survivor of multiple suicide losses. Most recently, Sarah has provided training to first responders about trauma and suicide prevention, and she also is a crisis responder herself.Sarah discusses her experience surviving a “cluster" of suicides including the loss of her best friend, the work she is doing studying the soul and how it is forgotten in modern psychology, the concepts of Soul Exhaustion and Soul Care, the Guts, Grit, and the Grind project, which is focused on men’s mental health, and finally, we talk about some of the unique challenges facing men when it comes to mental health and suicidality.If you're interested in learning more about Sarah or checking out her publications, you can check out the links below.WRITING ON THE WALLS INSTAGRAMhttps://www.instagram.com/writingonthewallspodcast/OUR SPONSOR - C&C RESOURCINGhttps://home.ccresourcing.usCREATING SAFE SPACES FOR SURVIVORS OF SUICIDE LOSS TRAININGhttps://events.humanitix.com/creating-safe-spaces-survivors-of-suicide-loss-09-08-23-and-10-06-23-12-00pm-1-30pm-est?_ga=2.99682203.468101191.1686064207-954483215.1679679113SARAH GAER WEBSITEhttps://sarahgaer.com MUSIC BY: Intro by Neon Samurai and Outro by cascreativeartshttps://www.instagram.com/neonsamurai_beats/https://www.fiverr.com/cascreativearts

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This episode is brought to you by C&C Resourcing (link below). C&C Resourcing provides one-on-one business coaching, customized training seminars, and continuing education around creating safe spaces for transgender and gender non-binary folx.

In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Julie Cerel. Dr. Cerel is a licensed clinical psychologist and Professor in the College of Social Work at the University of Kentucky. She is also the director of their Suicide Prevention & Exposure Lab and currently serves as the Interim Associate Dean of Research.

Dr. Cerel discusses her extensive career researching suicide, the #not6 campaign which identified the number of people affected by every suicide, the concepts of suicide exposure and suicide bereavement, how suicide differs amongst different cultures, and finally the impact of how suicide is depicted and discussed in the media.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. Cerel or the Suicide Prevention & Exposure Lab, you can check out the links below.

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DR. JULIE CEREL BIO

https://kiprc.uky.edu/people/julie-cerel

SUICIDE PREVENTION & EXPOSURE LAB

https://socialwork.uky.edu/centers-labs/suicide-prevention-exposure-lab/

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Doreen Marshall. Dr. Marshall is a clinical psychologist, the Vice President of Mission Engagement for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, and a survivor of suicide loss.

Dr. Marshall discusses her experience losing her fiance to suicide in 1995, her trajectory and career path and how she found herself in her current position with AFSP, the training she has provided to various organizations on suicide prevention and awareness, the importance of training schools on suicide prevention and postvention and the toolkit she helped develop, the pros and cons of social media when it comes to communicating about suicide, and finally, we talk about how to talk to and engage someone who may be dealing with suicidal ideation or intensity.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. Marshall or the AFSP, you can check out the links below.

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DR. DOREEN MARSHALL BIO

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If you are in need of immediate support, you can dial 988 to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, or text "HOME" to 741741 to reach the Crisis Text Line.

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In this episode, Rob meets with Heather Bonner. Heather is a survivor of suicide loss and the founder of the Mission 34 Foundation, which was started in honor of her son, Sean, who died by suicide in 2018.

Heather discusses losing Sean to suicide in 2018 when he was just 20 years old, the immediate impact Sean's suicide had on his college campus and his family, how undiagnosed concussions may have prompted a shift in Sean's mental health, the stereotypical "toughness" that is associated with sports and athletics, the mission of Mission 34 (which is to eliminate the stigma around mental illness through awareness and education), and finally we talk about some of the events and chapters run by Mission 34.

If you're interested in learning more about Mission 34 or making a donation you can check out the links below.

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MISSION 34 FOUNDATION

https://mission34.org/

MISSION 34 INSTAGRAM

https://instagram.com/mission34spb

NotOK App

https://www.notokapp.com/

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In this episode, Rob meets with Rafael and Rachel Rosado. Rafael and Rachel are survivors of suicide loss and the founders of the Matias Rosado Foundation, which was started in honor of their son who died by suicide in 2021.

Rafael and Rachel discuss losing Matias to suicide in 2021 when he was just 19 years old, how the loss of Matias prompted them to start a foundation in his name, the night of Matias’ suicide and the immediate aftermath, the mission of the MRF (which is support, education, and advocacy around suicide prevention), and finally we talk about treatment-resistant suicide and some of the misconceptions about it, as well as some of the currently available treatments for depression.

If you're interested in learning more about the Matias Rosado Foundation or making a donation you can check out the links below.

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MATIAS ROSADO FOUNDATION

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Melinda Moore. Melinda is a clinical psychologist, a professor at Eastern Kentucky University, and a survivor of suicide loss (among many other things).

Melinda discusses the loss of her then-husband in 1996, how losing her husband to suicide opened her eyes to the issue and changed the course of her career, the Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality [CAMS] tool, the concept of posttraumatic growth and how one can work toward it after enduring a tragedy, the work that she has done with the Veteran population, and finally the work that she's doing around the intersection of faith and suicidality.

If you're interested in learning more about Melinda or checking out her newest book, you can check out the links below.

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DR. MELINDA MOORE WEBSITE

http://www.melindamoorephd.com/

AFTER THE SUICIDE FUNERAL (MELINDA'S NEWEST BOOK)

https://a.co/d/4BGQix6

POSTTRAUMATIC GROWTH INVENTORY

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dana Cea. Dana is an adjunct professor at Eastern Carolina University, owner of Panacea Mental Wellness, and volunteer with the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) and American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP).

Dana discusses the loss of her father, James, to suicide in 2011, how the loss of her dad changed the entire trajectory of her career, how she applies her lived expertise to support the LGBTQ+ community and persons with disabilities, how and why suicide and mental illness seem to affect the LGBTQ+ community at a disproportionate rate, and the steps each one of us can take to break down the barriers and be more inclusive in our own lives.

If you're interested in learning more about Dana, Panacea Mental Wellness, NAMI, or AFSP, you can check out the links below.

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PANACEA MENTAL WELLNESS

https://panaceamentalwellness.com/

NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL ILLNESS

https://nami.org/Home

AMERICAN FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION

https://www.afsp.org

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Bob Baugher. Dr. Baugher is an author, a psychologist, and a certified death educator. He is currently a Professor of Psychology at Highline College in Des Moines, Washington.

Dr. Baugher discusses how he got involved in death education, some of the common misconceptions we have about death and grief, our view of death in Western culture and how it differs from the rest of the world, how to speak with children about death and dying, his involvement with the Compassionate Friends Project (which supports bereaved parents), and his book "After Suicide Loss".

If you're interested in learning more about Bob, the Compassionate Friends, or buying one of Bob's books, you can check out the links below.

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BOB BAUGHER WEBSITE

https://www.bobbaugher.com/

COMPASSIONATE FRIENDS

https://www.compassionatefriends.org/

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In this episode, Rob meets with "Andy". Andy has asked to remain anonymous for this episode. He is a survivor of multiple suicide losses, having lost a family friend, a close college buddy, and most recently, his father to suicide in 2019.

Andy shares the story of his dad's life and the events that led up to his death. Throughout the episode, Andy details how losing a family friend in 2008 might have influenced his dad's final decision, the night of his dad's suicide and the immediate aftermath, the note that his dad left behind and the confusion it caused, how his father's suicide has impacted his family, and how losing multiple people to suicide has affected his own view of the world.

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In this episode, Rob meets with Taryn Hiatt. Taryn is a survivor of suicide loss, having lost her father to suicide 20 years ago. She currently serves as the Utah Area Director for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP).

Taryn discusses her uniquely challenging experience of finding her father after his suicide, how alcohol and substances provided her an escape from the grief around the loss of her dad, the connection that exists between addiction and mental/emotional disorders (including depression and suicidal intensity), how her involvement with AFSP began and evolved into what it is today, and finally, she bravely shares about her own experience surviving multiple suicide attempts.

If you're interested in learning more about Taryn or AFSP, you can check out the links below.

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AMERICAN FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION

https://www.afsp.org

AFSP #RealConvo PROGRAM

https://afsp.org/realconvo

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In this episode, Rob meets with Gary Roe. Gary is a bestselling author, speaker, chaplain, and grief specialist. He has over a dozen books and 700 articles in print. He most recently served as a chaplain and grief counselor for a hospice center in Texas.

Gary discusses how his early experiences with grief and loss put him on a path to help others, the lessons he learned from being taken in by a friend's family as a teenager, the way grief is stored in and processed by the body, some practical skills that can be applied to integrate grief into your life, and how his relationship with God has informed his viewpoints and life experiences.

If you're interested in learning more about Gary, The Suicide Prevention Project, or purchasing one of his books, you can check out the links below.

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https://www.instagram.com/writingonthewallspodcast/

GARY ROE WEBSITE

https://www.garyroe.com

SUICIDE PREVENTION PROJECT

https://www.garyroe.com/the-suicide-prevention-project/

GARY ROE'S BOOK CATALOG

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00JD4XH0O

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Amanda McGough. Dr. McGough is a licensed Psychologist and survivor of suicide loss. She has used her experience as a loss survivor to help guide her career and areas of focus today.

Dr. McGough discusses losing her childhood friend, Kelly, to suicide, her experience at Kelly's funeral, some of the risk factors associated with specific lines of work, the possibility for suicidal behavior to transmit between generations, and finally, her experience as a clinician treating patients affected by suicide.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. McGough or her practice, you can check out the links below.

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FIND YOUR BASE WEBSITE

https://www.findyourbase.com/

DR. AMANDA MCGOUGH - ABOUT

https://www.findyourbase.com/amanda-mcgough

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In this episode, Rob meets with Marshall Hammer. Marshall is a survivor of suicide loss, a Reiki practitioner, and an Interspiritual Minister.

Marshall discusses losing her dad to suicide 11 years ago, her involvement with AFSP and the Survivors of Suicide Loss (SOSL) support groups, Reiki (a form of energy healing) and how it can be used to help with grief, the importance of community and connection after surviving a suicide loss, and finally, some helpful resources for new loss survivors.

If you're interested in learning more about Marshall, her Reiki practice, or her upcoming training seminar, you can check out the links below.

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REIKI FOR TODAY WEBSITE

https://www.reikifortoday.com

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In this episode, Rob meets with Dr. Stephen O'Connor of the National Institute of Mental Health. NIMH is the leading government organization for research into mental disorders.

Over his career, Dr. O’Connor has led many studies into suicide assessment, intervention, and prevention. In addition to his research, Dr. O’Connor has also served as a clinician for the University of Louisville’s Depression Center.

Dr. O'Connor discusses the shift amongst prevention and intervention strategies related to suicide, the "Zero Suicide" model, methods for assessing one’s suicidal intensity (which is now the preferred term for suicidal ideation), the posttraumatic stress associated with a survived suicide attempt, and finally we talk about the ideas of “thwarted belongingness” and “perceived burdensomeness” and how they influence a suicide attempt.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. O'Connor or NIMH, you can check out the links below.

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NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MENTAL HEALTH (NIMH)

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/

DR. O'CONNOR'S RESEARCH

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Stephen-Oconnor-13

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In this episode, host Rob Hlavaty meets with survivor of suicide loss, Parker Knudsen.

Parker discusses what it was like losing his dad to suicide when he was only 14 years old, how he has had to teach himself to be a man without his father's presence, some of the unhelpful messaging we're given as young men, what it's been like to also have lost 7 friends to suicide, and how he has worked through feelings of guilt around the suicides in his life.

If you're interested in learning more, you can check us out the links below.

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In this episode, host Rob Hlavaty meets with clinical psychologist and survivor of suicide loss, Dr. Jennifer Howell.

I do want to provide a trigger warning for this episode. Jenn and I get into some of the more graphic details that surround losing a loved one to suicide, including the specific methods that were used by her mother, as well as my dad. Some of this conversation could certainly be challenging for someone who has lost a loved one in a similar way.

Dr. Howell discusses what it was like losing her mom to suicide when she was only 13 years old, how being a motherless daughter has impacted her life and her view on motherhood, the conversations we’re used to having as survivors of suicide loss, the anger that comes along with losing a loved one to suicide, and finally, we talk about evidence-based therapy protocols, including Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), and how they could benefit someone who has been impacted by suicide.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. Howell or contacting her directly, you can check out the links below.

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DR. JENN HOWELL

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In this episode, host Rob Hlavaty meets with the psychologist, facilitator, and author, Dr. John "Jack" Jordan.

Dr. Jordan discusses the key takeaways from his book, "After Suicide Loss: Coping with Your Grief", how grieving a suicide loss differs from other losses, finding connection after a suicide loss, seeking therapy to help with bereavement and grief, how modern psychiatry approaches psychological pain, and finally, we actually discuss some of the debate around physician-assisted suicide.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. Jordan or buying his book, you can check out the links below.

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https://www.instagram.com/writingonthewallspodcast/

DR. JACK JORDAN

http://www.johnjordanphd.com/

AFTER SUICIDE LOSS: COPING WITH YOUR GRIEF

https://a.co/d/eE8nani

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In this episode, host Rob Hlavaty meets with Betsy Rhodes. Betsy is a Survivor of Suicide Loss (SOSL), as well as a volunteer for the North Carolina chapter of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP).

In this episode, Betsy discusses losing her son Luke to suicide in 2003, International Survivors of Suicide Loss Day (19 Nov), the many services offered by the AFSP, how losing Luke to suicide impacted her faith, and the importance of community after losing a loved one to suicide.

If you're interested in learning more about the AFSP or need support, you can check out the links below.

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AMERICAN FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION

https://www.afsp.org

ISOSL DAY 2022

https://afsp.org/international-survivors-of-suicide-loss-day

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In this episode, host Rob Hlavaty meets with the nationally-renowned clinician, author, and educator, Dr. David Treadway.

Dr. Treadway discusses the impact of losing his mother to suicide at 20-years-old, how family systems typically respond to suicide, being "frozen" in grief, how to continue the conversation with a lost loved one, and contributing factors to the higher suicide rates amongst men.

If you're interested in learning more about Dr. Treadway or contacting him directly, you can check out the links below.

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DR. DAVID TREADWAY

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In this brief introductory episode, host Rob Hlavaty explains the premise of the Writing on the Walls podcast, as well as provides a brief background on his experience of losing his father to suicide in 2017.

On this show, Rob will speak with survivors of suicide loss, survivors of attempted suicide, and experts in the mental health, suicide research, and substance abuse fields. The goal of this podcast is to provide a platform for survivors to share their stories, as well as better understand the various factors that contribute to rising global suicide rates.

If you're interested in learning more, you can check out Rob's other podcast, Breathing Room, or follow us on Instagram at the links below.

WRITING ON THE WALLS INSTAGRAM

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BREATHING ROOM PODCAST

https://open.spotify.com/show/2iQyGPj2RJDdurMWhpqHEm?si=5b37df6303e74bbd