Rock that Relationship!: Recent Episodes

Corey Seemiller and Tracy Wood

Are you looking for that podcast that gets real? Not a place to learn “how to” or get “10 tips” or “expert advice” … but a place where you can truly ponder the intricacies of healthy relationships. We obsess nonstop about relationships, looking at the ins and outs of complex issues people face today in developing, maintaining, and ending relationships.

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Tune in as Corey and Tracy talk about a variety of strategies to help couples communicate effectively across differences and difficulties. Hear their views on becoming too invested in other people’s choices, assessing somatic responses, identifying and challenging assumptions, empathy, and boundary setting. But, their discussion isn’t just about what one might do or say WHILE in discussion about an issue; it’s also about the conversation before the conversation – reiterating the relationship goals, laying out guidelines, and setting intentions. And, they agree that if each person is a willing partner whose primary goal is to have a healthy, productive and loving relationship, then approaching these situations with great intention can result in just that.

Show Notes:

  • Heather Browne-As a relationship expert, Dr. Heather Browne has worked with thousands of individuals and couples in psychotherapy. She is a TedX and keynote speaker, has published in hundreds of journals, has an active TikTok channel, has been featured on ABC-7 news, was the relationship expert on KDOC Daybreak OC, and is published in Inc., Toronto Sun, Thriving Family Magazine, Light + Life, BRAINZ, Scary Mommy, and Psychology Today. She is a regular guest blogger for both Links for Shrinks and for Marriage Friendly Therapists. She offers a weekly newsletter packed with tips and techniques to improve relationships and has monthly workshops!
  • Ladder of Inference-Learn about why people “jump to conclusions” without the facts and data and how to slow that process down to come to more accurate conclusions.
  • Feeling Wheel-Want to go deeper in your emotional exploration and find the words that describe exactly how you are feeling? Use the Feeling Wheel to get there!
  • Appreciative Inquiry-Learn more about this philosophy, which involves leveraging strengths to find purpose.
  • The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People-Check out this book by Steven Covey where he offers insight on principles for successful living.
  • To Be Magnetic-Check out the Expanded podcast for information about manifestation.

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Join in for an amazing behind-the-scenes conversation with Jordan Whitley from the Amazon Prime show, Tampa Baes. Jordan, along with several other women, starred in this reality series which follows a group of friends navigating the lesbian scene in Tampa/St. Petersburg. Listen as Jordan shares about balancing her long-distance relationship while filming, keeping her private life private, and what she learned about herself and how she shows up in relationships from her television experience. Corey and Jordan exchange thoughts on the familiarity effect, where fans feel like they know celebrities because they saw them on TV or heard them on a podcast. And, Tracy and Jordan both discuss overcorrecting in relationships. This is an amazing conversation you won’t want to miss.

Show Notes:

  • Follow Tampa Baes on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/tampabaesshow/?hl=en
  • Tampa Baes-Learn more about the show and watch the trailer. Then, check out the series on Amazon Prime.
  • Season 4 Episode 10-Tune in for our conversation with Xander Boger, reality star from The Ultimatum: Queer Love. Watch a trailer for the show and then head on over to Netflix to binge the entire series.
  • Jordan Whitley
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayy_whit

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Don’t get into a relationship until you are healed from the last! Everyone’s heard that advice, but Antonio and Miguel just didn’t take it. Not too long after they both left toxic relationships, they met . . . at a RuPaul-inspired drag show. And, it was clear that they wanted to be together. But, they were each still working on their own healing. Instead of pushing that process aside to start “fresh,” they decided to go through their processes openly while simultaneously starting a new relationship with each other. Join us as we talk with them about their “healing together” process as well as how they help each other work through trauma triggers and red flags that come up in their own relationship. Learn about the feeling wheel, emotional intelligence, vulnerability, communication, and wellness wheel, and how they have embraced those in order to have a healthy, honest, and loving relationship. Corey pipes in with the notion that we are never quite done healing, so in essence, with every new partner, we are healing together. Let’s just call it out and do it transparently. Tracy discusses how parental trauma often cannot be forgotten, and that the trauma we carry is from more than just exes. This powerful episode will leave you thinking about the profound connection that can be developed in healing together.

Show Notes:

  • Relationship Renovation-Learn all about Tucson’s very own relationship counseling center where Corey and Tracy met Antonio.
  • RuPaul’s Drag Race-Check out this reality show, where contestants compete to be “America’s Best Drag Superstar.”
  • But, I’m a Cheerleader-Tune in to this 1999 movie about teens at a gay conversion therapy camp.
  • Feeling Wheel-Want to go deeper in your emotional exploration and find the words that describe exactly how you are feeling? Use the Feeling Wheel to get there!
  • SMART Goals-Find out more about SMART goals and how to write them.
  • Wellness Wheel-Learn about the 8 dimensions of wellness and see how balanced you are.
  • Queer Eye for the Straight Guy-Watch this TV series about five gay men who give fashion advice to straight men.
  • A Million Miles Away-Check out this movie about Jose Hernandez who went from farm worker to astronaut.
  • Bethany Nicole-Learn more about Bethany’s work with astrology, book a chart reading, and check out her book (and blog),Apologies I Never Got!
    • Web: https://www.bethanynicole.com
    • Twitter: @Best2BBethany
  • Feel Good Fitness-Find out more about Antonio’s fitness classes!
  • Tucson Clean and Beautiful-Learn more about this nonprofit organization dedicated to environmental conservation and education.
  • Youth On Their Own-Find out more about how this organization helps homeless youth earn an education.

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Check out our amazing discussion with Dr. Lori Beth Bisbey, clinical psychologist and accredited GSRD therapist, as we discuss a multitude of topics around open relationships. Lori Beth walks us through the differences between polyamory, consensual nonmonogamy, and “dating around.” Her insight provides a lot of guidance in what to do if one partner in a monogamous relationship wants to open it up – including how to communicate better, set agreements, and how to contend with jealousy. She explains how personal work around insecurities, trust, and communication, along with working with a trained therapist or coach, can be critical in forging a successful open relationship. While Corey just asks a lot of questions, as this is new territory for her, and Tracy talks about how she is absolutely 100 percent monogamous, they both help keep the conversation lively.

Show Notes:

  • The Ashley Madison Affair-Tune in to watch this docuseries on Ashley Madison, an “infidelity dating website for married people.”
  • Lori Beth Bisbey
    • Web: loribethbisbey.com
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbisbey
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@loribethuk
    • Open House: The New Sex Experiment Show-Learn more about this UK reality show with couples who explore opening relationships, with Dr. Lori Beth!

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Check out our heartfelt and vulnerable conversation with couple, Nic and Heidi, as they share their coming out journeys and differences in parental support. Nic discusses how her once liberal-minded “hippie” parents took an ideological turn and how that impacted her coming out and relationship with them, while Heidi talks about having an opposite experience with her conservative Christian parents who have embraced her and even Nic. What is it like for them to navigate their relationship while both experiencing vast differences in acceptance and support from their parents? Tune in to learn more about how their communication, honesty, and vulnerability allows Nic, for instance, to ask Heidi to “sit in the mess with me.” And, she does. Also, if you want to know about why you should never talk bad about Tracy’s grandma or how Corey’s mom confronted her about being gay while in a moving vehicle, this is an episode you won’t want to miss!

Show Notes:

  • Mormon No More-Tune in to this Hulu miniseries about two lesbians who leave their heterosexual marriages and the Mormon church to find love together.

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How does illness impact relationships? Tune in for this insightful episode with Dr. Jackie Black, marriage educator and board-certified coach for couples, who talks us through the feelings, dynamics, and actions couples often take after finding out one partner is sick. She shares about the value of open-hearted vulnerable communication, showing up as our authentic selves, making sure the care partner tends to their needs, dealing with the grief of the loss of what the relationship was, and balancing hope and resignation. Corey shares about coping with her mom’s death, while Tracy talks about what it’s like to be there for others during a time of loss. As usual, their differences are evident, though. If you aren’t sure, listen in for their lively discussion on the spiral notebook. All in all, Dr. Jackie reminds us that while we can’t prepare for the emotions we may feel if this situation arises, we can have the “end of life” conversations with our loved ones well before so that by the time something might occur, we can focus on being there for the other person rather than trying to decipher logistical details.

Show Notes:

  • Sue Klebold-Learn more about a mom’s journey in losing her son during Columbine and how the grief impacted her and her husband.
  • Dr. Jackie Black
    • Web: drjackieblack.com
    • Email: drjackie@drjackieblack.com

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Listen as we chat with Charity, a late to lez, 49 year-old, looking for someone to fuel her desire to feel “alive,” and Holly, a 35 year-old Gold Star lesbian, who came out at 17, residing five and a half hours away. Tune in as they discuss setting relationship goals, challenging naysayers (although, they have had a lot of support from loved ones), communicating through a variety of methods, and offering “pre-emptive” wedding vows that offer reassurance. Don’t miss Corey’s take on the importance of having seen the movie, St. Elmo’s Fire, and Tracy’s experience with “beards” in college. All in all, this is an episode that will inspire anyone looking for love, as Charity says, “to take the lid off the box.”

Show Notes:

  • 8 Dates-Learn about 8 critical conversations to have with your partner.
  • Hold Me Tight-Check out Sue Johnson’s book about the seven critical conversations anyone in new relationships must have.
  • Elmo’s Fire-Watch this coming-of-age movie about a group of post-college graduates navigating adulthood.
  • Lesbian Journeys-Find out more about Charity’s lesbian events group on Facebook.

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Listen as we chat with mindset and empowerment coach and founder of Club Lilles, Jaime Messina, as she talks about experiences, perspectives, and issues related to later in life lesbians. Jaime shares about her Facebook group of more than 8000 aimed to bring together “high vibe” people in the Sapphic community. She discusses why some women come out later in life, the risks and rewards of doing so, and the long-term impact of “compulsory heterosexuality.” Listen as Tracy shares about her past fear of lesbians at basketball games and Corey’s fifth grade roller-skating boyfriend, both precursors to their coming out. And, while neither Corey nor Tracy identify as later in life lesbians, they were both eager to learn and find ways to be more supportive of the challenges facing this group.

Show Notes:

  • If These Walls Could Talk 2-Watch this series that follows three lesbian couples from different decades, up against societal obstacles.
  • Cruising Podcast-Tune in to hear stories of the last-remaining lesbian bars in America.
  • Compulsory Heterosexuality-Learn more about this phenomenon, which can be defined as “a system that forces queer people to conform to the expectations of heterosexual, cisnormative society and pursue heterosexual relationships.”
  • The Four Agreements-Pick up a copy of don Miguel Ruiz’s book that shines a light on self-limiting beliefs.
  • Jaime Messina
    • Web: jaimecoaches.com
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaimemessina/
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jaimemessina
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jaimemmessina/
  • Club Lilles
    • Web: clublilles.com
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lilles/

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Tune in for a lively conversation all about politics with Shannon Watson, the Executive Director of Majority in the Middle. Our discussion ranges from media bias to psychological safety and Ashley Madison to cancel culture. Listen as Shannon offers her own thoughts and personal experience around managing relationships across political differences as well as ideas for how to meet in the middle, passively disagree, and find commonalities. Tracy adds in her thoughts on micro and macro aggressions and Corey talks about navigating social media when your “friends” post memes and content that is counter to your beliefs. In the end, Shannon sums it up with, despite your disagreement, “Is it more important to be right(eous) or in relationship?”

Show Notes:

  • Gallup-Find out more about American’s political ideologies.
  • Generation Z-Learn more about Gen Z’s thoughts on politics
  • MeToo-Learn more about this “survivor-led movement against sexual violence.”

  • Starts With Us-Check out information on this movement about ending polarizing politics in the United States.
  • The Ashley Madison Affair-Tune in to watch this docuseries on Ashley Madison, an “infidelity dating website for married people.”
  • Braver Angels-Learn more about this cross-partisan organization aimed at bridging the partisan divide.
  • Shannon Watson
    • Web: majoritymiddle.com

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What happens if you find yourself in a relationship where your expectations are different from your partner’s? Tune in for a lively discussion about what being committed to a relationship versus a person means, the notion of transference (and what that has to do with the old and new Becky on Roseanne), and the dangers of silent expectations . . . along with Corey’s grocery shopping habits and Tracy’s dislike of situationships. Whether you want to learn about how compromise and the third solution differ, the importance of relationship goals, or how to use a reassurance statement, this episode is one you won’t want to miss.

Show Notes:

  • 8 Dates-Learn about 8 critical conversations to have with your partner.
  • Love is Blind-Learn more about this dating reality show.
  • Frankie Bashan-Learn more about Dr. Frankie’s matchmaking and coaching services at https://drfrankie.com and follow her on Instagram at @drfrankiebashan.
  • To Be Magnetic-Check out the Expanded podcast for information about manifestation.
  • This is Actually Happening Podcast-Check out this weekly podcast highlighting the extraordinary.
  • Golden Bachelor-Tune in to this reality dating show for those in their “sunset years.”
  • The New Becky-Learn why the show, Roseanne, swapped out Becky mid-series.
  • The New Jesus-Find out the story behind swapping Jesus’s character on The Fosters.

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Tune in for an amazing conversation with Claire Afua Jorgensen, marriage and relationship coach, as she shares the key to saving your relationship during troubled times. She says, “A relationship is only as healthy as the two people in it” and believes that both partners have to be willing to do the work. Listen as she shares ideas for where to start. Rest assured, Tracy pipes in with her experience trying to save a past relationship, and Corey questions whether you can fall back in love with someone after having fallen out of it. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!

Show Notes:

  • Claire Afua Jorgensen
    • Web: claireafuajorgensen.coach
    • Instagram: @marriagesaved
    • You can take her free marriage/relationship temperature test on her website, check out her free e-book, Save Our Marriage, or schedule a consultation with her.

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How can you keep the spark alive in your relationship? Well, it takes more than just flowers and chocolate. Tune in as Corey and Tracy discuss spark killers, time blocking, question cards, and tough or fluff. And, hear their thoughts on vulnerability, wellness checks, gratitude, surprises, and intimacy. While there are many ways to keep that spark, Tracy is more of a love poem, talk about everything in the relationship, kind of partner, whereas Corey enjoys making new memories and having adventures in her relationships. One thing they both agree on is the 555 approach: 5 thoughtful questions, 5 gratitude statements, and 5 touches a day.

Show Notes:

  • Love Languages-Learn about Gary Chapman’s 5 Love Languages and how you like to give and receive love.
  • Marriage Fitness-Download an audiobook and worksheets on making and keeping your relationship fit. Good for long-term unmarried partners as well.
  • Amazing Race-Learn more about the reality show that inspired Corey’s epic adventure.
  • True Detective-Check out this series about police investigations.
  • The Science of Happiness-Learn more about GG101x: The Science of Happiness Certificate at BerkeleyX.

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Listen as we chat with bestselling and award-winning author, Katharine Giovanni, as she talks about her book, The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness. Katharine shares valuable tools for forgiving people, places, and things…along with the energy surrounding them. Discover how to use her ranking exercise of the painful memories you want to forgive, mantras for helping you move forward, and ideas for gratitude and visioning to release negative anger tied to these experiences. Learn more about what she means by, “you don’t have to forgive the unforgiveable.” And, hear from Corey about wanting to spreadsheet her way into forgiveness while Tracy shares about reimagining an alternative ending to a real-life scenario so she can let things go.

Show Notes:

  • The Hidden Messages in Water-Check out this book by Masaru Emoto on how “thoughts, words, and feelings” impact water.
  • Toxic Parents-Learn about the impact of childhood experiences on one’s adulthood.
  • The Choice-Learn more about Edith Eva Eger’s perspectives on the choices we make in life.
  • Katharine Giiovanni
    • Web: katharinegiovanni.com
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katharinegiovanni
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/katharine.giovanni
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0PPtlSUPldGNl9mIRRtAmA
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katharinegiovanni
    • The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness-Order a copy of Katharine’s book for all the strategies and tools for finding forgiveness.

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Join us as we hear from forgiveness specialist, Barbara J. Hunt, on the importance of self-forgiveness in relationships, the connection between grief and forgiveness, and how people often get something out of holding onto their own resentment. Tracy talks about how she lets herself off the hook quickly after making a mistake, while Corey shares about taking far too long. Listen as Barbara shares strategies to get to the heart of what needs forgiving and move on in a healthy way.

Show Notes:

  • To Be Magnetic-Learn about the manifestation challenge of To Be Magnetic.
  • Find out more about The Work with Byron Katie and discover more about the wisdom inside of you.
  • Check out Tara Brach’s book, Radical Acceptance, to learn about “healing the shame and fear that bind our hearts.”
  • Barbara J. Hunt
    • Web: forgivenessmadeeasy.co.uk. linktr/ee/barbara_j_hunt
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@barbara_j_hunt
    • Instagram: @barbara_j_hunt
    • Also, check out a song she wrote using the ubiquitous Marianne Williamson quote-“our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is we are powerful beyond measure…” called : BRILLIANT, GORGEOUS, TALENTED & FABULOUS

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Tune in for an amazing conversation with clinical psychologist and certified relationship therapist, Dr. Satira Streeter Corbitt, about addressing the root causes of conflict in relationships. She discusses how we, as adults, engage in conflict in ways that were modeled for us as children. Corey shares about how her parents’ relationship, and ultimate divorce, modeled some unhealthy patterns she didn’t want to repeat. Tracy pipes in about the challenges many in marginalized communities face in seeking out and getting therapy, with messages she heard as a child about keeping “our business in our family.” This is a fascinating episode, great for anyone in a relationship, parenting, or just wanting to learn how to uncover how they approach conflict.

Show Notes:

  • Blacks Couples Therapy-Grab a copy of this book about to learn more about providing culturally responsive care to Black couples. Dr. Satira has a chapter in this book as well!
  • Toxic Parents-Learn about the impact of childhood experiences on one’s adulthood.
  • Scribd-Check out this app where you can listen to audiobooks and podcast on just about any subject. Corey and Tracy found many breakup, healing, and relationship books and podcasts on this site. Scribd now goes by Everand.
  • Ascensions-Learn more about this organization, which provides “therapy without walls” to the Washington, DC community.
  • The Practice of Emotionally Focused Couple Therapy-Take a look at this book by Susan M. Johnson, which blends attachment, emotional regulation, and neuroscience, and strategies for engaging in emotionally focused therapy.
  • Attachment Styles-Learn more about attachment styles – how they are formed and how they might impact your relationships.
  • Art and Science of Love-Check out this weekend retreat on building intimacy, based on more than 40 years of research from Drs. John and Julie Gottman.
  • Hold Me Tight-Learn more about this insightful book by Dr. Sue Johnson about creating secure relationships with our partners.
  • Dr. Satira Streeter Corbitt
    • Web: http://drsatira.com
    • Email: drsatirastreeter@gmail.com

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Wondering how to best support your partner through challenging times? Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss how minimizing, comparing, judging, fixing, and silver lining can create a negative impact on the relationship, despite one’s helpful intention. Instead, consider asking about your partner’s needs, validating, encouraging, supporting, listening, and affirming as they can go a long way in showing love. Hear Tracy discuss her journey through perimenopause and Corey talk about the support she received after the heartbreaking loss of her mom. Whether dealing with the death of a loved one, a toxic job, health issues, or caretaking for others, a supportive partner can make all the difference.

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Tune in for an insightful discussion about intimacy with licensed marriage and family therapist, Julie Hall, as she shares about the three Cs to developing intimacy – Curiosity, Compassion, and Courage. She describes what threat response behaviors, negative interaction cycles, and competing attachments are and how they can get in the way of intimacy in a partnership. Corey brings up watering the garden from season one, talking about what can happen when you shift intimacy away from your partner, and Tracy jumps in with her own revelations about how having been the “pursuer” impacted intimacy with her partners. If you are looking for ways to break down your intimacy walls or develop a closer connection with your partner, you won’t want to miss this episode!

Show Notes:

  • Berkeley Well-being Institute-Check out resources on self-compassion.
  • Emotion-Focused Therapy-Learn about how emotion-focused therapy can help in developing emotional awareness.
  • Season 1, Episode 2: Watering the Garden-Hear more about Corey’s reference in this episode.
  • Brené Brown-Make sure to check out the books, blogs, and TED Talk on vulnerability.
  • Julie Hall
    • Web: juliehalltherapy.com

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Tune in to hear Dr. Nicole Odom-Hardnett’s personal story about blending families and parenting “bonus children.” Learn about how she embraces the practice of constant communication and parenting as a team. She also offers recommendations about dealing with each other’s exes and on what to do if you are the one coming into the relationship without your own children. Tracy pipes in with her stories of “I’ll be fine. I was a babysitter approach” to parenting, and Corey shares her thoughts on being the partner with the child.

Show Notes:

  • Love is Blind-Learn more about this dating reality show.
  • Dr. Nicole Odom-Hardnett
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talktonicole/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talktonicoleoh/?hl=en
    • Email: nicole@talktonicole.com

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Join us for a lively discussion on the 20 questions to ask yourself before getting married. For example: Would for better or worse make me better or worse? What am I doing to hold us back? Is this relationship balanced? What is my gut telling me? Listen as Corey and Tracy talk about their opinions on each of the questions, why they are important, and what questions might be missing from the list. As usual, both of them have vastly different opinions. But, one thing they agree on is that these questions should be asked far earlier in a relationship than before considering marriage!

Show Notes:

  • Do Not Marry Someone Until You Can Honestly Answer These 20 Questions-Read the article that is the foundation for this episode’s discussion.
  • Coach Dorothy-Tune in to Dorothy Johnson’s podcast about getting past heartbreak.
  • FB over 50 travel group-Search Facebook for groups for solo travelers, women travelers, lesbian travelers, over 50 travelers, etc.
  • Eat, Pray, Love-Check out this movie about a woman’s personal journey after a messy divorce.
  • Attachment Styles-Learn more about attachment styles – how they are formed and how they might impact your relationships.
  • Love is Blind-Learn more about this dating reality show.
  • The Gift of Fear-Get a copy of Gavin de Becker’s book on about how acting on instinct can literally save you.
  • Suze Orman-Get tips from personal finance expert, Suze Orman.

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Listen to our first “live studio audience” recording at the Tucson Hop Shop! Corey and Tracy banter about all things moving in – U-hauling, cohabitation agreements, as well as open drawers, ugly pictures, and other pet peeves. As usual, they are at opposite ends as Tracy says to speak up about all the little things, whereas Corey says to choose your battles. Hear Tracy share about how moving in together is the best way to get to know someone and Corey discuss the perils of the bag, which stays packed by the front door to move back and forth between houses before moving in. But, the best part of this episode is the audience participation, where the questions from others push both Corey and Tracy to skirt the issue of bed death and instead, mic drop for an off-air mix and mingle!

Show Notes:

  • Tucson Hop Shop-Learn more about this amazing local craft-beer and wine bar. They are LGBTQ-friendly and always supporting amazing events and initiatives to serve the community.
  • Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)-Find out more about your 4-letter type.
    • Personality Types and Romantic Compatibility: How Does It Work?-Read this article about MBTI and compatibility.
    • Compatibility and Myers and Briggs’ Personality Types-Check out this web page all about type compatibility. You can even take a shortened “unofficial” version of the MBTI to get your four-letter type.
  • Love Languages-Learn about Gary Chapman’s 5 Love Languages and how you like to give and receive love.
  • Astrology-Learn more about Bethany Nicole’s work with astrology, book a chart reading, and check out her book (and blog), Apologies I Never Got!
    • Check out her website at https://www.bethanynicole.com and follow her on Twitter at @Best2BBethany.
  • Maintaining Independence with Lindsay Andrews-Learn more about Lindsay’s work at com, email her at unstuckonyou@gmail.com, or follow her at www.instagram.com/unstuckonyou
    • Unstuck on You Podcast-Check out Lindsay’s podcast about codependency, filled with insight from experts and personal stories.
    • Check out Season 5, Episode 4 for a full-length interview with Lindsay!

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Listen as we talk with long-time civil rights activist, Colette Barajas as she offers ”a voice for those who haven’t found their voice yet.” Learn about the backstory of Colette’s, the first lesbian bar in Tucson, Arizona. But, Colette’s was more than just a bar; it was a place for lesbians to socialize, connect, and …

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Tune in to hear the backstories from Corey and Tracy about what each of their first “falling in love” experiences felt like. Corey shares her “in the closet” Notebook-like first love that came crashing and burning down, whereas Tracy talks about her college love triangle that led her to someone else. Show Notes: Coach Dorothy-Tune …

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Join us as we talk with relationship expert, Dr. Heather Browne, as she shares wisdom and strategies for enhancing communication and dealing with conflict at the beginning stages of a relationship. But, this episode is like any other – Corey and Tracy see the world quite differently, with Tracy believing that conflict at the beginning …

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Join us as we talk with certified regression therapist, spiritual intuitive, and psychic medium, Carol McGlinchey, about the influence of past lives in falling in love. Carol was trained and certified by Dr. Brian Weiss and James Van Praagh, pioneers in past life regression. Her insights on falling in love with yourself, the societal fallacy …

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Join us as we talk with shadow worker and coach, Laura Giles, who shares insight on understanding how past trauma, particularly from one’s childhood, can emerge in a new romantic relationship. Through our conversation, Tracy’s oft-said comment, “when it’s hysterical, it’s historical” and quest for every first date to take place at a therapy session …

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Ever wondered why when traveling with your partner, you want to chill out but your partner wants to follow a detailed itinerary? Or, that you want start assembling IKEA furniture right away while your partner would rather do an inventory of every piece? Each of us has preferences and styles that help us navigate the …

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What if your friends or family members don’t like your new love? Are they good barometers for identifying red flags or just naysayers who don’t understand how awesome your new partner is? Or, what if they love your new boo…more than you do? Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss these and other deep questions about …

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Tune in for an insightful conversation with codependency expert and educator, Lindsay Andrews. We chat all things codependency – from how to recognize it, how to break the cycle, and how to set boundaries moving forward. Hear as we all pipe in, particularly Lindsay, about the myth of the “you complete me” and “you’re my …

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What is the honeymoon phase exactly? We meet that new person, fall head over heels, and float in bliss…for a few months, perhaps. Then, real life sets in. Join us as we talk with individual and couples’ counselor, Brittany Steckel, about what happens to our bodies and minds at the beginning of a relationship, how …

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Exclusivity, situationships, playing the field…Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss the many factors that go into figuring out the flow and pace of a new relationship. While both aspire to channel Dr. Frankie’s advice to explore options and take it slow before committing, Corey and Tracy share their visceral reaction to any dating or relationship …

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How do YOU fall in love? Is it an up-all-night, fairy tale, magical whirlwind where you hurl yourself into the mad rush of euphoria, like Tracy does? Or is it more measured and slow burning, bucking all the Hollywood expectations of the happily ever after, like Corey goes about it? Tune in as Corey and …

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“The Ultimatum: Queer Love” had the LGBTQ community on the edge of their seats for ten episodes, waiting to see if any of the five couples ended up getting married, splitting up, or even re-partnering with someone else on the show. Join us as we have a heartfelt conversation with Xander Boger, who had a … Read more "S4. Episode 10: The Ultimatum Journey with Xander Boger"

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Tune in as we chat with Martha Bodyfelt about dating in mid-life. Our lively conversation flows from how to meet people in real life through activities that bring you joy and the power of loose connections to the downsides of video-game-like dating apps. Rest assured, Tracy pipes in with her own experiences with online dating … Read more "S4. Episode 9: Finding Connection with Dating Coach, Martha Bodyfelt"

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While shows like Indian Matchmaking and The Millionaire Matchmaker have brought attention to facilitated dating, Dr. Frankie Bashan, lesbian and bisexual matchmaker, offers behind-the-scenes details on how both matchmaking and speed dating work. Tune in as she talks about how she entered into the world of matchmaking and how her background as a psychologist helps … Read more "S4. Episode 8: Speed Dating and Matchmaking with Matchmaker, Dr. Frankie Bashan"

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Have you ever dated across a large age gap? Long distance? Someone with kids? How about a person with different political or religious views? Or maybe someone freshly broken up? Dating is hard enough without all of the extra layers of possible complexity. But, these factors only help us figure out what we really want … Read more "S4. Episode 7: Unique Dating Situations"

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“What’s your sign?” is not just a pick-up line from a silly rom-com. Instead, understanding astrology can be foundational for dating. Tune in as we chat with astrologer and relationship expert, Bethany Nicole, as she drops some amazing wisdom about our signs, planets, and houses and how each can affect the way we show up … Read more "S4. Episode 6: Dating Across Zodiac Signs with Astrologer, Bethany Nicole"

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Nervous about asking someone out, getting ready for that first date, striking up the initial conversation, or even figuring out how to say goodbye at the end of the date while keeping the momentum going for the next one (or gently letting the person down if you don’t want another date)? Well, Corey and Tracy … Read more "S4. Episode 5: The First Date"

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Organic dating isn’t connecting with a possible love interest over a kale smoothie; instead, it involves meeting prospects OFF the dating apps. In a world in which the apps are the go-to for many, it’s easy to forget about all the amazing places and great ways to meet people IRL. Listen in as Corey and … Read more "S4. Episode 4: Organic Dating"

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Online dating…some love it; some don’t. But, it can be a great way to meet amazing people and potential partners, if you approach it authentically and with realistic expectations. Listen as Corey and Tracy banter about profiles riddled with typos, bathroom selfies, ghosting, and having to sift through what are obviously rants about exes embedded … Read more "S4. Episode 3: Online Dating"

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“The beginning to everything is healing.” Tune in as a love coach and sixth generation healer, Carisa Montooth, shares about why healing deep ancestral and past wounds before getting into a relationship is the first step to self-love. Hear as she shares personal stories and experiences about how to develop sustainable love, what people often … Read more "S4. Episode 2: Love Healing with Dating Coach and Energy Worker, Carisa Montooth"

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You want to start dating. But, how do you know you’re ready? Tune in as Corey and Tracy talk about doing self-work, setting intentions, and trusting your gut to prepare yourself for getting back out there. Listen to Corey share her experience “practice dating,” and Tracy talk about her less-structured, go-with-the-flow approach. If you are … Read more "S4. Episode 1: Getting Back Out There"

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Tune in for a conversation with special guest, Vera Minot, entrepreneur, activist, and President of the Tucson LGBT Chamber of Commerce, as she shares how she has healed from heartbreak. Hear her talk about the lessons she’s learned and her thoughts on the band-aid pull breakup approach, journaling, and letting time work in her favor. Vera is a perfect example of how we all have had our share of “messy” love lives but can overcome the heartbreak and emerge as wiser and better people.

Show Notes:

  • Follow Vera on Instagram at Tucson LGBT, Southwest Solutions, or Charlie the Pride Wagon.
  • Follow Vera on Facebook and LinkedIn.

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Although healing from a breakup is often filled with managing emotions and meaning-making, it is also a great time to think about needs and expectations moving forward. Listen as Corey and Tracy share insight into their “must-haves,” those things they had in past relationships and want again in the future, the “never doing that agains,” things they want in the future that are different than what they had in the past, and “no-gos,” which are the absolute non-negotiables. Listen as they discuss all three, along with the ways they came to develop clarity around them during the healing process.

Show Notes:

  • Attachment Styles-Learn more about attachment styles – how they are formed and how they might impact your relationships.
  • Extraversion and Introversion-Find out more about the differences between extroverts and introverts.
  • Indian Matchmaking-Check out the show and Netflix and learn more about modern-day arranged marriages.

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Tune in for an amazing discussion about quelling negative mental chatter with coach and author of Mind the Chatter, Lise Cartright. Lise discusses how she engages with Neville, the name she gave to her chatter, and how she managed her chatter during heartbreak and healing. As a manifester and someone who sees the world as the “glass spilling over,” she shares how human design and gut instinct can work together to help align actions and ultimately, reduce chatter.

Show Notes:

  • Hustle and Groove-Check out Lise’s website with resources on chatter, along with information about her coaching and other books on writing and entrepreneurship.
  • Get Unstuck 30-Day Journal-Lise offers a free journal to help those who feel stuck get unstuck.
  • Human Design Chart-Find out more about human design and complete your free chart!
  • Follow Lise on Instagram and Facebook.

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Managing heartbreak is hard enough, but what do you do when everyone around you seems happy and you want to rip up their love poems? Listen as Tracy shares how she would never go to couples’ game night alone, and hear what Corey has to say about the over-exaggeration of social media and the transformative green bean experience. In the end, they both agree that when we are sad, we need to make room for others’ happiness; but, when we are happy, we also need to make room for others’ sadness.

Show Notes:

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With so many ways to go about healing from heartache – like making new friends, taking up a hobby, talking with a therapist, and prioritizing goals, it’s easy to focus on the more traditional or conventional aspects of healing. But, what about intuitive, metaphysical ways? Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss their take on Reiki, Tarot cards, intuitive coaching, psychics, numerology, past life regression, and horoscopes as contributors to healing. Find out what the burning tower Tarot card meant for Corey or why Tracy found solace in talking to a tree.

Show Notes:

  • Intuition Coaching-Learn more about the intuition coaching from Wayshowers College (formerly Americana Leadership College) referenced in this episode.
  • Ayahuasca-This is a brew made from two particular plants. When consumed, it can result in a psychedelic effect.
  • Twin Flames and Divine Partners-Check out “What is a divine counterpart?” to learn more.
  • Numerology-Learn more about how numerology works.
  • Transmutation-This is the process of transforming negative energy into deep wisdom. There are several books and articles on transmutation and intuition available online.
  • Past Life Regression-This type of therapy often involves using gentle hypnosis to access past life memories. Some people find this is useful for overcoming fears or breaking habits, whereas others find it informative in uncovering soul connections that transcend lifetimes. This type of therapy is controversial, though, in that there has been no concrete evidence that it is effective. However, many people anecdotally attest to its usefulness. Learn more by searching for past life regression online.

Please note that neither Corey nor Tracy endorse any of the above viewpoints, practices, or provided resources/links. You will want to make sure you are well-informed about the potential risks for each and have consulted a licensed medical professional and/or mental health professional, if appropriate, before engaging or participating in any of these methods.

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Join us as we ponder healing after heartbreak with Cassie Parks and Ginny Gane, hosts of the Manifest it Now podcast. Listen as Ginny explains how the law of attraction works like gravity and Cassie shares incredible insight on manifesting your ex back. We also chat about the importance of being aware of your vibrations, letting yourself feel the feelings of the heartbreak, and going with what works for you.

Show Notes:

  • Manifest it Now Podcast-Tune in to hear Cassie Parks and Ginny Gane talk all things manifesting. Or connect directly with Cassie at @enchantedlifeu and Ginny at @ginnygane.
  • Coach Dorothy-Tune in to Dorothy Johnson’s podcast about getting past heartbreak.

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After a breakup, it’s not unusual to get that new haircut, start an exercise plan, or get a new job. Listen as Corey and Tracy share their post-breakup healing experiences and ways they reclaimed and recreated their identities, whether that was Tracy becoming a better dresser and competitive pickleballer or Corey becoming the lesbian docent of Tucson and an avid tank top-wearer. Also, tune in for an interview with our special guest, Monica, who shares her story about how changing her name after her divorce to one that better reflects her cultural identity offered the ultimate healing for her.

Show Notes:

  • com-Check out this online platform that helps you “Meet new people who share your interests through online and in-person events.” You can find local groups with just about any interest from sports to writing to cooking to spirituality.
  • The Authors Guild-Learn more about this nonprofit organization that supports writers in all aspects of their work from ideation to crafting content to publishing to marketing and offers networking opportunities to connect with writers from around the world.
  • Festival of Books-Find out more about the Tucson Festival of Books which celebrates literacy, reading, writing, and publishing.

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Self-acceptance, forgiveness, gratitude, affirmations, boundary setting, wellbeing, and exploring new endeavors…all essential for self-love. Listen as Tracy shares how loving herself means not running away from acting class and reading 20 affirmations a day, while Corey talks about her non-negotiable daily walks and liking others’ social media posts, except apparently Tracy’s Facebook posts. Hear how they approach self-love differently, yet have both found ways to accept, value, and love themselves.

Show Notes:

  • I Am app-Subscribe to “daily self-care reminders.”
  • 52 Hike Challenge-Sign up to do one hike or walk every week for 52 weeks.
  • Coach Dorothy-Tune in to Dorothy Johnson’s podcast about getting past heartbreak.

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Healing after a breakup can feel overwhelming. But, what if you had a healing plan that could help you move through the process quicker and more effectively? Tracy isn’t quite sure a formal plan would work for her, but Corey swears by her 44-point healing plan. Listen as they talk about their healing experiences being scattershot, as Tracy says, or prescribed, as Corey says, and how both of their processes, while different from each other, were incredibly intentional and transformative.

Show Notes:

  • I Am app-Subscribe to “daily self-care reminders.”
  • 52 Hike Challenge-Sign up to do one hike or walk every week for 52 weeks.
  • Coach Dorothy-Tune in to Dorothy Johnson’s podcast about getting past heartbreak.

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Sadness, anger, hurt, confusion, relief, and fear. These are just some of the emotions many people feel after a breakup. Listen as Corey and Tracy talk about which emotions often come from feeling grief due to the loss of the relationship and which ones come from the trauma of the breakup or even relationship itself. They share how the healing processes for grief and trauma can be different from one another, offering resources and ideas to help with both.

Show Notes:

  • Scribd-Check out this app where you can listen to audiobooks and podcast on just about any subject. Corey and Tracy found many breakup, healing, and relationship books and podcasts on this site.
  • Tara Brach-Check out resources on meditation and mindfulness from Tara Brach, who is a meditation teacher and psychologist.
  • I Am app-Subscribe to “daily self-care reminders.”
  • Coach Dorothy-Tune in to Dorothy Johnson’s podcast about getting past heartbreak.
  • Mel Robbins-Listen to Mel’s motivational podcast on improving your life.

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Dealing with breakups can be challenging. But, our listeners have chimed in with their tried and true “Dos” and “Don’ts” during a breakup. As always, hear Corey and Tracy comment on each of these pieces of wisdom, and in turn, learn more about Tracy’s creepy baby doll or Corey’s view on what it means to … Read more "S2. Episode 10: Breakup Dos and Don’ts"

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Tune in for a conversation with Dorothy AB Johnson as she shares her insights on getting over your ex. Dorothy is a breakup coach and podcast host, who offers the “Get Over Your Ex in 3 Months or Less” program. Listen as Corey and Tracy engage in a lively discussion with Coach Dorothy. Show Notes: … Read more "S2. Episode 9: Getting Over Your Ex with Coach Dorothy"

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After a breakup, many of us just want information (Why did this happen? How did we get to this point?), validation (Is it me?), or just a chance to be heard (Let me share my thoughts) to get closure. But, closure is not just for the one who was broken up with; it is also … Read more "S2. Episode 8: Closure"

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Have you ever gotten out of a relationship and just wanted to “let go” or “move on?” Are there things we can do to initiate or even accelerate this process? Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss what worked and didn’t work for them to “let go,” physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Whether that is getting rid … Read more "S2. Episode 7: Letting Go"

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Have you ever been told after a breakup, “Time heals all wounds?” “There are other fish in the sea?” “You are better off?” Breakup truisms are pieces of advice that we are often told after a breakup by others who are well-intentioned in doing so. But, do these pieces of supposed sagely wisdom have any … Read more "S2. Episode 6: Breakup Truisms"

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Listen in as we talk with Jessica DaSilva, a licensed marriage and family therapist and attachment coach in helping adults end their unhealthy dating patterns and create stronger, secure relationships using the Attachment Theory framework. Our conversation explores how understanding the role of attachment styles in relationships, and particularly, in breakups can be insightful. Jessica … Read more "S2. Episode 5: Attachment Styles with Jessica DaSilva"

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The first six weeks after a breakup can be tough. Listen as Corey and Tracy discuss what they have tried during those first six weeks after various breakups as they tried to survive and thrive after heartbreak. Show Notes: Law of Attraction-Learn more about attracting the energy, experiences, and feelings you want. Love Your Life … Read more "S2. Episode 4: The First Six Weeks"

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Tune in to learn more about the “No contact” rule after a breakup. Whether you need space, time, or just a chance to re-engage with yourself, having at least 30 days of no contact with your ex can be vital. Listen as Corey and Tracy share their takes on the “No contact” rule…with Tracy admitting … Read more "S2. Episode 3: No Contact"

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Episode 2: Breaking Up Whether you are the breaker-upper or the broken-up-with, splitting up from our significant other can be disorienting, difficult, and heartbreaking. Even relationships we know must come to an end can still leave us in a state of grief and confusion. Should you have a breakup contract? How much do you involve … Read more "S2. Episode 2: Breaking Up"

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Listen as Corey and Tracy “get real” about their own experiences with heartbreak and heartache. Hear the one thing they do agree on about heartbreak and the other things they don’t as Tracy’s “hopeless romantic” and Corey’s “practical partner” engage in lively discussion.

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As Corey and Tracy extrovertedly chatted through season one, some of what came up from their discussions even surprised them. Listen as they share what they learned from season one and how they are applying their own insight, as well as learn what season two has to offer. Show Notes: Law of Attraction-Learn more about … Read more "S2. Reflections on Season 1"

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In the final episode of season 1, listen to Joan and Katie, who have been together for 25 years, share how they live the 8 lessons. And, this episode wouldn’t be complete without commentary from Corey and Tracy about the biggest lessons they have learned from this season’s content. Show Notes: Stay tuned for next … Read more "S1. Episode 10: Living the 8 Lessons"

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Do you really give the benefit of the doubt to others, especially the people you are in relationships with? Or, are you quick to assume bad intentions and react in ways that aren’t as loving and kind? Listen as Corey and Tracy share their thoughts and experiences about how they have learned to give others … Read more "S1. Episode 9: Giving and Taking Space"

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Do you really give the benefit of the doubt to others, especially the people you are in relationships with? Or, are you quick to assume bad intentions and react in ways that aren’t as loving and kind? Listen as Corey and Tracy share their thoughts and experiences about how they have learned to give others … Read more "S1. Episode 8: The Benefit of the Doubt"

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Have you ever tried to change or fix someone…all to help them be better versions of themselves? Hear Corey and Tracy talk about their experiences, struggles, and lessons in trying to change or fix others. By looking at behaviors, rather than characteristics, we can be supportive and helpful, yet provide autonomy and agency so others … Read more "S1. Episode 7: “Fixing” Others and Others “Fixing” Us"

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Weighing whether to stay or leave a relationship can be difficult and anxiety filled. Listen as Corey and Tracy share their stories of defining red lines, orange lines, and dealing with chatter and societal norms around ending relationships. Hear about their different opinions on “one and done” breakups versus reconciliation approaches when deciding whether to … Read more "S1. Episode 6: When to Stay and When to Leave"

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How much intention are you putting into understanding yourself – what makes you tick, what triggers you, how you communicate, and what your dreams are? Listen as Corey and Tracy talk about the value of self-understanding both for individual development and for successful relationships. Learn about both formal and informal therapeutic interventions and personal growth … Read more "S1. Episode 5: The Value of Therapy and Personal Growth Work"

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What and who are you attracting? Positive experiences and people or negative ones? Tune in to hear Corey and Tracy talk about the Law of Attraction and bringing positive energy to your life and relationships. Learn how they have taken to manifesting to clarify the kind of love they want in their lives. Show Notes: … Read more "S1. Episode 4: Law of Attraction and Manifesting the Relationships You Want"

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How do you communicate with others? What are your needs when it comes to communicating? Tune in to hear Corey and Tracy talk about knowing your own communication style, the styles of others, and maximizing communication interactions. Hear as they talk about their experiences with Love Languages and using Appreciative Inquiry to assume the best … Read more "S1. Episode 3: Communication"

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What type of investment do you put into a relationship? Do you water the garden enough to keep your relationship flourishing? What about over-watering? Is there such a thing? Tune in to hear Corey and Tracy talk about their experiences with watering the garden and ideas for moving forward in creating a healthy balance. Show … Read more "S1. Episode 2: Watering the Garden"

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Tune in to learn more about co-hosts, Corey and Tracy, and their views on relationships. Find out more about key learning over the years that is helping to guide them forward in their current relationships. Show Notes: Law of Attraction-Learn more about attracting the energy, experiences, and feelings you want. Strengths-Based Leadership-Learn more about how … Read more "S1. Episode 1: Let’s Rock That Relationship"