Sense & Signal: Leading Through Sensemaking: Recent Episodes
Daniel Tarker and Jodah Jensen
Tne Sense & Signal: Leading Through Sensemaking Podcast is hosted by Jodah Jensen and Daniel Tarker. The show explores contemporary issues in organizational leadership through the sense of sensemaking.
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In this episode of the Sense & Signal Leadership & Sensemaking podcast, co-host Dan Tarker delves into how non-teleological thinking can help leaders navigate the metacrisis. He spends time defining what the meta crisis is, investigating the concept of moloch as defined in the Bible and Allen Ginsburg's poem Howl, and how these concepts inform our response to global crises like the war between Israel and Hamas. He then provides a history of John Steinbeck and Ed Rickett's trip on the Western Flyer that resulted in the book "The Log From the Sea of Cortez" and the 14th chapter where they present their ideas on non-teleological thinking. After defining non-teleological thinking, he connects it back to the metacrisis and complexity theory to begin to lay a foundation for non-teleological thinking as a sense making tool in our complex times.
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Joe Gow has been fired as chancellor of the University of Wisconsin - LaCrosse after the Board of Regents learned that he and his wife Carmen Wilson had been publishing pornographic content on OnlyFans and PornHub. In this micro episode of the Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking podcast, Dan recaps the Joe Gow pornography scandal, discusses other scandals Joe Gow and his wife Carmen Wilson have been involved with, considers the role of a college chancellor in the board of regents decision to fire him, explores issues around freedom of speech especially in regards to matters of public concern, and fumes about how much time this enterprise must have taken Joe Gow to work on. He also provides a brief review of Joe Gow and Carmen Wilson’s cringy cooking with porn stars YouTube show.
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Binance founder Changpeng Zhao (CZ) is going to jail and his cryptocurrency exchange - the largest in the world - is paying 4 billion dollars in fines to the US Justice Department. I’m this episode of the Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking podcast, Dan explores what leadership lessons we can learn from Changpeng Zhao’s Icarus like fall. Dan reviews the charges against Changpeng Zhao and Binance, assesses Changpeng Zhao’s personality through a dark quadrad lens, and reviews some of the leadership approaches Changpeng Zhao shared on various Binance blog posts. Some of the Binance founders recommendations include keeping meetings short, publicly criticizing employees, shuffling teams at work, not praising employees, and acting ethically - and the irony of the last one isn’t lost. Dan also reviews some of the criminal activities Changpeng Zhao and other Binance management knew was taking place on the Binance exchange including money laundering for criminal and terrorist organizations, dark web transactions, transferring profits from ransomware attacks, and letting individuals and states under US sanctions transfer money. Ultimately, we find ourselves facing a complicated leader in Changpeng Zhao or CZ. Some of his leadership principles were effective in growing the Binance platform into the largest cryptocurrency exchange in the world. But Changpeng Zhao clearly should have listened to his own leadership advice on ethics.
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What is influence leadership and how can leaders use influence to move their teams forward? Is there something we can learn from leader influencers like Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Bill Gates, and Sam Bankman-Fried? In this micro episode of the Sense & Signal leadership & Sensemaking podcast, Jodah and Dan delve into the definition of influence, discuss how leaders can develop influence by building relationships and trust, explore why knowing your audience is important when trying to influence people, touch on the importance of influence in this age of artificial intelligence and distributed organizations, and consider the importance of emotions when influencing others. They also discuss Shakespeare’s Measure for Measure to distinguish between Machavellian type influence versus Lao Tzu’s more invisible influence leadership approach. Finally, they touch on the emergence of social media influencers / organizational leaders such as Elon Musk, Sam Altman, and Sam Bankman-Fried.
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Sam Altman has been re-hired at Open AI after a Succession level coup attempt by the nonprofit Open AI board. In this micro podcast of the Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking podcast, Dan and Jodah discuss the implications of this soap opera unfolding at Open AI. What does it mean for the future of artificial intelligence that Sam Altman was restored as CEO of Open AI? What is the future of the nonprofit Open AI board? Is Sam Altman now unstoppable? And what does it signal that Larry Sommers was appointed to the Open AI board? They ultimately determine the future of AI foundation models like ChatGPT will be unchecked without government regulation which will likely post a risk to many jobs and our future economic stability.
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In this micro episode of the Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking podcast, Jodah and Dan explore the sudden firing of Sam Altman from Open AI, the organization that brought the world ChatGPT. While Dan cheers this move by Open AI, Jodah wants to dig deeper. They discuss two fundamental tensions that may have led to Sam Altman’s firing from Open AI. The first is the governance structure of Open AI. Is it sustainable for them to try to be a mission driven nonprofit and a for profit tech company at the same time? And how will they reconcile the tension between people who want to accelerate getting artificial intelligence products like ChatGPT to the public versus those like Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati who are on the cautious and safety side of the debate. They also discuss whether Open AI’s board may be spooked by a sudden advancement in artificial intelligence, Open AI’s recent Dev Day event as an inflection point, and a possible deal with the Chinese to develop a new AI chip as possible causal factors for Sam Altman’s firing by the Open AI board.
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Last week the Biden adm8nistration released an Executive Order addressing the safety, security, and trustworthiness of artificial intelligence. In this Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking micro podcast, Dan takes a dive into this executive order on artificial intelligence - especially where the administration fears danger. He discussed the section on dual use foundation models like ChatGPT, cybersecurity, AI model weights, and threats of AI models like ChatGPT being used for bio-terrorism if their weights are released. He also looks at some research on spicy AI models that provided people with the ingredients to recreate the Spanish influenza virus. He also weighs whether our fears of artificial intelligence models like ChatGPT are justified or not.Briefing on the Executive Order on Artificial Intelligence Safety:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/Weighs, dual use, and biological weaponshttps://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/ZuzK2s4JsJcexBJxy/will-releasing-the-weights-of-large-language-models-grant
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Dan explores LinkedIn Drama on this Sense& Signal micro podcast. Is servant leadership lazy or micromanage - or neither?
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Who is to blame for Sam Bankman-Fried’s crypto crimes? Is he to blame? Is it the system? God? His parents? The spaghetti monster? Dan begins to unpack this question in this Sense & Signal micro cast. He discusses the essay Sam Bankman—Fried’s mother Barbara Fried wrote on blame and moral responsibility in the Boston Review, the concept of hard determinism versus libertarian free will in terms of the Sam Bankman-Fried case, interrogates Barbara Fried’s position that there can be no blame if there is no free will, shares dissenting comments about Barbara Fried’s stance on determinism and free will from Princeton philosophy professor Gideon Rosen, and reflects on the literary level of irony of this article in light of the criminal charges Sam Bankman-Fried and his parents face. Barbara Fried’s article on blame and free will: https://www.bostonreviewu.net/forum/barbara-fried-beyond-blame-moral-responsibility-philosophy-law
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In this segment of the Sense & Signal podcast, Dam reflects on the new and possible last Beatles song “Now & Then” and the ethical issues around AI and dead artists. What are the ethical implications of using AI to create new art from the work of dead artists like John Lennon and George Harrison. There is a reflection on the impact the Beatles had on our culture, their history of innovation, the deaths on John Lennon and George Harrison, the process of creating this new song “Now and Then”, the creativity and leadership lessons learned from Peter Jackson’s documentary on the Beatles “Get Back”, and the artistic merit of the song “Now and Then.”
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In this segment of the Sense & Signal podcast, Dan reflects on the Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) verdict and what it can teach us about Imagology and ethics. Dan reviews the general fraud and conspiracy case against Sam Bankman-Fried, FTX, and Alameda Research. He gives Sam Bankman-Fried a dark quadrant performance review to determine if he is narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, or sadistic. He then discusses Sam Bankman-Fried’s rise to fame and fortune through the lens of Imagology and ponders whether the West’s fixation on youthful disruptors played a role in his success with the media. He also explores the ethical aspects of the case especially in regards to Sam Bankman-Fried’s parents Joseph Bankman and Barbara Fried - who are scholars on economic ethics. Finally, ponders the ironies in the case especially in the context of cryptocurrency, blockchain, and Web 3.0. This case reinforces the need for more ethical leadership training, the need for more scrutiny of the cryptocurrency markets, and awareness of the impact of Imagology.
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Last week the Biden administration released an Executive Order addressing the safety, security, and trustworthiness of artificial intelligence. In this first of two segments on the Sense & Signal leadership and sensemaking podcast, Dan takes a dive into one of the documents informing this executive order on AI - the proposed AI Bill of Rights. Dan addresses concerns from both sides of the spectrum about this government response to generative artificial intelligence models like ChatGPT, reflects on the damage the tech industry has caused to society due to their handling of social media, and then delves into the five pillars of the Artificial Intelligence Bill of Rights - safety and security, algorithmic protections against discrimination, data privacy, notice & explanations , and human alternatives. This is the first of two segments exploring President Biden’s Executive Order on the Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of Artificial Intelligence calling for deeper investigations into how all forms of AI - but especially large language models like ChatGPT - will impact society.The AI Bill of Rights is a set of guidelines that outlines five key protections to protect US citizens against AI harms. The document provides an important framework for how government, technology companies, and citizens can work together to ensure more accountable AI. Here’s what’s key to understand about the new guidelines - both what they cover, what they don’t and what other work is being done in for AI accountability. The five principles of the AI Bill of Rights are as follows:People should be protected from systems deemed “unsafe or ineffective.”People shouldn’t be discriminated against via algorithms and that AI-driven systems should be made and used “in an equitable way.”People should be kept safe “from abusive data practices” by safeguards built in to AI systems and have control over how data about them is used.People should be aware when an automated system is in use and be aware of how it could affect them.People should be able to opt out of such systems “where appropriate” and get help from a person instead of a computer 1234.The need to resolve issues around the Responsible Use of Artificial Intelligence (AI) has become increasingly important for countries, citizens, and businesses over the last eight years. Approximately 60 countries now have National AI Strategies and many have, or are creating, policies which allow for responsible use of a technology which can bring huge benefits but, without adequate governance, can do significant harm to individuals and our society. The AI Bill of Rights is a critical starting point but wish more checks and balances existed to keep AI accountable 1.While technology brings many benefits, without governance it can bring significant harm. The AI Bill of Rights provides an important framework for how government, technology companies, and citizens can work together to ensure more accountable AI. The AI Bill of Rights is a critical starting point but wish more checks and balances existed to keep AI accountable 1.
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in this Halloween edition of the Sense & Signal podcast, Dan shares some ghost stories for leaders. He starts off with a review of the Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix and what we can learn about leadership from it. Then we get a ghost story about a Banshee at an Amtrak Station, Lyndon B Johnson’s encounter with another presidential ghost, the sale of a leadership consultant who was really a succubus, and a tale about a vanished guest who was investigating a famous CEO about his occult activities.
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In this episode of the Sense & Signal podcast, Dan explores some ethical questions we should be considering around generative artificial intelligence. Should we approach AI ethics as a critical theory? Should we tag synthetic art created by AI? How do we manage AI creating digital dopplegangers of dead famous people? Is it OK for a lonely person to develop a romantic relationship with an AI bot? Is it unethical for educators to refuse to teach students how to use AI? Lots of ethical AI questions to wrestle with on this episode.
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Latest trends in leadership development
In this episode of the sentence signal podcast, Jodah and Dan dive into some of the latest conversations and research about leadership development. They discuss whether growth mindset is a valid theory, strategies to train leaders in hybrid work environments, distinctions between empathy and compassion when thinking about leadership, and the difference between horizontal and vertical leadership. This episode has a lot of different dimensions to it for those wanting to think about some of the latest trends and leadership development.
Articles referenced in this episode:
PROOF POINTS: Does growth mindset matter? The debate heats up
https://hechingerreport.org/proof-points-does-growth-mindset-matter-the-debate-heats-up/
What Leadership Development Should Look Like in the Hybrid Era
by Julian Birkinshaw, Maya Gudka, and Steve Marshall
https://hbr.org/2022/06/what-leadership-development-should-look-like-in-the-hybrid-era
Empathy Is The Most Important Leadership Skill According To Research
By Tracy Brower, PhD
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tracybrower/2021/09/19/empathy-is-the-most-important-leadership-skill-according-to-research/?sh=194414733dc5
Connect with Empathy, But Lead with Compassion
Rasmus Hougaard,
https://hbr.org/2021/12/connect-with-empathy-but-lead-with-compassion
Developing Talent? You’re Probably Missing Vertical Development
https://www.ccl.org/articles/leading-effectively-articles/developing-talent-youre-probably-missing-vertical-development/
Vertical Leadership Development–Part 1
Developing Leaders for a Complex World By: Nick Petrie
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/539ca55fe4b00a440d97d43a/t/543c7996e4b0f4b200091d97/1413249430380/VerticalLeadersPart1.pdf
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In this episode of the sense and signal podcast, Dan does a solo show to talk about political leadership. In our dysfunctional, two party political system, how can you be an adult in the room as a political leader? We explore the issue of age and political service. When is a person too old to serve as a president or Congress person? We also talk about personal conduct, and the dress code of politicians, especially as it relates to recent controversies around politicians like John Fetterman. We dove into the history of Jimmy Carter, who is celebrating his 99th birthday – and who might’ve been the last adult politician in the room. We touch on the budget extension and the ramifications of that. And finally we explore the TikTok “How often do you think about Rome” meme.
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We all encounter bias at work. In this episode of the Sense & Signal podcast, Jonah and Dan take their audience on a tour of different kinds of biases that may be impacting our workplaces. They define the term biass, describe several types of bias, and differentiate its benefits and significant drawbacks. They also explore bias in the hiring process, attractiveness bias, bias around clothing - especially during job interviews - and bias around age and the generational war that the media maybe artificially propping up
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In this episode of the Sense & Signal podcast, Jodah and Dan welcome systems thinking experts Dr. Derek Cabrera and Dr. Laura Cabrera - founders of the Cabrera Research Lab on Systems Thinking at Cornell University - to talk about leadership, systems thinking, and complexity. They share their story about how they met and became the dynamic duo of systems thinking research, their work teaching kindergarteners about systems thinking, respond to criticisms made by Cynefin founder David Snowden, delve into the characteristics of complex systems and emergence, describe their DSRP Sensemaking framework, advise leaders how use systems thinking to work in complex environments, and how incorporate systems thinking and complexity into strategic planning. A fascinating conversation with a charming and insightful scientific team, perfect for educators and leaders who want to incorporate systems thinking into their work.
Derek Cabrera and Dr. Laura Cabrera are distinguished Systems Thinking innovators renowned for developing the DSRP theory—Distinctions, Systems, Relationships, Perspectives. Their transformative approach simplifies intricate challenges by dissecting them into fundamental components, fostering insightful problem-solving. The Cabrera’s are authors of Systems Thinking Made SImple: A new hope for solving wicked problems and Flock Not Clock, a book for organizational leaders who want to do systems thinking at the organizational level. They are also the faculty directors of the Systems thinking, Modeling and Leadership Program at Cornell University and founders of the Cabrera Research Lab in Ithaca, New York. Their work empowers individuals to navigate complexity, cultivate innovation, and make informed decisions across diverse domains.
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In today's fast-paced business landscape, startups and teams face a myriad of challenges that demand decisions with far-reaching consequences. From resource allocation and product direction to hiring choices and strategic pivots, each crossroad presents an opportunity to mold the future. But with these opportunities come the inevitable, sleepless nights of contemplation, the debates that stretch the boundaries of innovation, and the moments of bold risk-taking that define industry leaders.
Lets pull back the curtain on the decision-making processes that occur behind closed doors in this episode of Sense and Signal. Drawing on the experiences of visionary entrepreneur Everett Harper, a battle-hardened executive and industry thought leader. In this hour aim to illuminate the path to effective decision-making while maintaining your grit through all the rough patches. .
Join Dan, Jodah, and Everett harper for this great hour of leadership exploration.
MORE ABOUT EVERETT HARPER Everett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Truss, a human-centered software development company. He is the author of the new leadership book Move to the Edge, Declare it Center (Wiley), published March 22, 2022 https://amzn.to/3Hsh2PW
Truss was named as an Inc 5000 fastest-growing private company for 2020 and 2021. He is a rare combination of Black entrepreneur, Silicon Valley pedigree, National Champion, sought-after public speaker, and a proven record for solving complex problems with social impact.
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0In this thought-provoking hour-long podcast episode, we delve deep into the captivating realm of modern-day AI technology and its profound implications on society and the working class. Engaging experts and futurists, we explore the awe-inspiring plusses of AI, from revolutionizing industries to enhancing healthcare. However, we don't shy away from dissecting its potential minuses, including ethical concerns and job displacement. Thoughtful discussions on AI's role in inequality and the future of work make this episode a compelling listen for anyone seeking a comprehensive understanding of the promises and challenges that AI brings to our rapidly evolving world. Prepare to be enlightened and challenged.
MORE ABOUT JACK WANG Jack Wang, Associate Professor of Microbiology at The University of Queensland in Australia, videographer, and YouTuber. Brings education in IT. In 2020 named Australian university teacher of the year.
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-t-wang/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCwQSuFEwIzuEq3epknQbBkA Web: https://jackwang.com.au
MORE ABOUT CHRISTINA INGE Christina Inge is a best-selling author on digital marketing, digital strategist, and marketing teacher. She has two decades of experience leading digital strategy and managing complex marketing technology projects. She specializes in articulating effective, efficient digital strategies for organizations using the latest channels to drive results. Her areas of specialty include go to market strategy, marketing analytics, SEO, inclusive digital media, and data-driven marketing.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinainge/ Marketing Metrics by Christina Inge: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B758YR39/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0 Thoughtlight: https://thoughtlight.net
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What can Milan Kundera teach us about leadership and sensemaking? That’s the central question in this episode of the Sense and Signal podcast. Jodah and Dan welcome frequent guests Jesan Sorrells and Zoe Fragou to explore what Kundera – and other novelists – can teach leaders. Topics include leadership lessons from Milan Kundera’s novels, historical amnesia in political leadership and workplace leadership, and the difference between ideology and Imagology and its impact on our sensemaking. And Zoe Fragou shares a story about being canceled by Greek nationalists on TikTok. A valuable podcast for those interested in political and workplace leadership and literature.
MORE ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU Zoe’ Fragou’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/ Zoe Fragou’s blog post “Positive Psychology v. Toxic Positivity” blog post - https://cto.academy/positive-psychology-vs-toxic-positivity/
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ABOUT JESAN SORRELLS Jesan Sorrells is the CEO and Founder of HSCT Publishing, LLC. HSCT is remote-first, video-based, software publishing platform company located in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. HSCT seeks to help organizations manage and reduce the impact of workplace conflict, encourage organizational innovation, and increase optimal outcomes around leadership development, conflict management and change management. HSCT leverages content platforms, training, and education via their Leadership Toolbox and LeadingKeys products. Jesan’s latest book 12 Rules for Leaders: The Foundation of Intentional Leadership (2022) advances the idea that all problems in all organizations can be solved through the intentional application of effective leadership practices and principles. Leaders who have heard Jesan’s message have changed cultures, changed organizations, and changed their work lives by changing their mindsets, their teams, and their organizations. Jesan hosts and produces the Leadership Lessons from the Great Books podcast, and previously published Marketing for Peace Builders: How to Market Your Value to a World in Conflict, in 2016 and My Boss Doesn’t Care: 100 Essays Disrupting Your Workplace by Disrupting Your Boss, in April 2019.
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eaders! Unlock the mysteries of the vision statement using systems and design thinking, Jodah and Dan welcome back Sense & Signal alum Dan Edds and Dan Torres to explore how leaders can use systems and design thinking to craft effective vision statements that will give their organizations long-term direction in complex environments.
Beginning with a vision statement quiz and a challenge to create a parable about contemporary organizational vision and leadership modeled after Plato’s allegory of the ship, they delve into a comprehensive discussion about the purpose of vision statements, their relationship to concepts such as distributed leadership, how to craft vision statements that can shape organizational culture, why leaders must develop vision statements from the ground up, and how leaders need to support the vision statement once it’s implemented.
And they do come up with an updated allegory that incorporates contemporary organizational leadership and vision statements with systems and design thinking.
ABOUT DAN EDDS Daniel Edds, MBA is a management consultant who helps organizations develop high-impact cultures. He is the author of two books. The most recent is titled, Leveraging the Genetics of Leadership, cracking the code of sustainable team performance. You can review his work and writing through his LinkedIn page at and personal website at www.DanielEdds.com
ABOUT DAN TORRES Dan Torres is experienced and adept in product management, with over 30 years and going hands-on practice in the tech industry. He has a proven track record of success in leading and delivering innovative products and services across various market segments, including consumer electronics, networking, communications, search, assistants, etc.
Dan is a creative and focused problem-solver who thoroughly understands the entire "product" process. He is also an effective communicator and collaborator with a proven ability to build and motivate high-performing teams https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjtorres/
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In the digital age, data analytics has emerged as a transformative sensemaking tool, empowering organizational leaders with valuable insights to make informed decisions. However, despite its potential for driving meaningful change, data analytics is often misinterpreted, leading to flawed conclusions and misguided actions. What is a leader supposed to do? How do leaders create a data centric environment? How do leaders train data informed teams? And how can leaders making using data fun?
In this episode of the Sense and Signal podcast, Jodah and Dan welcome Dr. Alexandra Mannerings to learn the common pitfalls of data analytics, highlight the factors contributing to data misinterpretation, strategize how to optimize data usage in organizations, and train teams to be more data savvy.
Alexandra Mannerings’ s company, Merakinos, provides data analytic education and support to nonprofits and businesses.
Topics include correlation vs. causation, context and bias, misinterpretation of statistical measures, lack of domain knowledge, and failure to account for change. Data analytics is a wild ride, so get on board and join on this episode of the Sense and Signal podcast.
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Socrates said you should know thyself – and this Sense and Signal podcast panel discission examines what knowing oneself looks like for leaders. Jodah and Dan delve into what it means for leaders to know themselves with favorite guests Hana Gala and Zoe Fragou, both highly regarded international leadership consultants and trainers. They explore why knowing oneself is important for leaders, using tools like psychometrics to understand oneself and others, the power of self-deception, the impact of social media on bullshitting and imposter syndrome, the influence of postmodernism on our ability to know ourselves, and Taylor Swift as a celebrity leader.
ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU
Zoe’ Fragou’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/
Zoe Fragou’s blog post “Positive Psychology v. Toxic Positivity” blog post - https://cto.academy/positive-psychology-vs-toxic-positivity/
ABOUT HANA GALA
Hana is the Director of Coaching Programs for an international consultancy Leadership Associates based in Vienna, Austria. She is also a professor of business management at South Seattle College. Hana has been an active member of many industry associations (SHFM, NACE, HFTP), consulted with multiple Fortune 500 companies (Microsoft, Coca-Cola), and is a certified executive coach (ACC ICF) and embodiment specialist. She is currently writing a book on space, body, and soul.
https://leadership.associates/hana-kabele-gala/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hana-kabele-gala-phd-068a9a22/
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Leaders need to get out of their heads. That’s the central message of this interview with acclaimed science writer and author of the Extended Mind Annie Murphy Paul. In this though provoking episode, Annie informs Jodah and Dan about the importance of feelings to thinking, how our bodies are important to our thinking process, how the physical spaces we work in impact our cognition, and how groups of people can effectively think better together. A fascinating episode perfect for executives and managers looking for new leadership tools and frameworks that involve the body, re-think physical workspaces, and build better teams able to engage in effective collective cognition.
ABOUT ANNIE MURPHY PAUL
Annie Murphy Paul is an acclaimed science writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, Scientific American, and The Best American Science Writing, among many other publications. She is the author of Origins, The Cult of Personality, and now The Extended Mind. Senior writer at the Hidden Brain Podcast on NPR.
Annie Murphy Paul’s Contact:
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Jodah is late for the podcast because je’s taking a walk
01:32 – Why feelings are so important to thinking (Hint - Descartes was wrong)
04:30 – Expanding our understanding of thinking beyond the isolated brain
07:16 – Physical activity and thinking – movement a gesture augmenting or thinking
09:00 – Should leaders be taking more walks with their teams?
10:00 – The restorative power of nature
12:00 – Why you shouldn’t feel guilty for talking walks to stimulate thinking
13:00 – Negative impacts of mid-20th Century Cognitive Revolution – Brain is like a computer metaphor
15:00 – What is the source of consciousness and is consciousness too limiting a factor to our concept of mind?
18:00 – David Chalmers, Any Clarke, the extended mind, artificial intelligence, and human loppiness
19:20 – AI is another tool to help human thinking
20:00 – Non-conscious processing
22:05 – Stanislavski, arts, gesture, kinesthetic response, memory and thinking
34:30 – Social Introception – attuning your body to others
26:00 – What chimps can teach us about ourselves and leadership – especially non-verbal communication
28:57 – Workspaces and Zoom
30:00 – The loss of apprenticeship by osmosis due to remote work
31:00 – How do we balance the cognitive needs of workers – nature, remote work, om-person collaboration, urban congestion as companies like Amazon return to the offices
35:30 – Fatal flaw of the open office
37:30 – Effective open space team environments that use the physical space
41:35 – Transactive memory systems to find information
43:02 – Impact of cognitive offloading
46:00 – Cognitive apprenticeships, ChatBots, and Tutoring
48:00 – AI, decision making, empathy, and ruthlessness
51:50 – How to use cognitive apprenticeship to train staff
54:00 – Asymmetrical deals and meditation
57:22 – How to contact Annie Murphy Paul
Leadership, #ExtendedMind #Cognition, #Bodies, #workspaces, #Thinking, #Mind, ##AI, #CHatGPT, #Consciousness, #CognitiveOffloading, #Physicality, #Relationships, #CollectiveThinking, #Groupiness, #Cognitive Apprenticeships, #ArtificialIntelligence
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Many higher education employees are transitioning to jobs outside of academia for a plethora of reasons. In this wide-ranging interview with Dr. Julie Murray-Jensen, Jodah and Dr. Dan explore what higher education leadership skills transfer to the non-profit sector? They also discuss the grief one experiences leaving an industry that has shaped your identity most of your life – especially when your exit is painful. Finally, they learn about fiscal sponsor organizations as Julie recounts her new beginning as a non-profit executive. This episode will be valuable to organizational leaders interested in transitioning to another sector, those interested in learning about transferrable leadership skills, and listeners eager to use a fiscal sponsorship organization to launch their small non-profit. ABOUT DR. JULIE MURRAY-JENSENDr. Julie Murray-Jensen is the Executive Director of the Foundry Non-Profit Hub. She is the former President of Blackburn College and Vice-President of Enrollment and External Affairs at Klamathn Community College. You can find more here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-murray-jensen/TIMESTAMPS00:37 – Transferrable skills from higher education leadership to non-profit leadership07:00 – Discovering meaning and purpose in non-profit work07:46 – The pathways to college leadership in higher education10:11 – Exiting higher education12:00 – Higher ed too large a system to be sustainable13:12 – Fear and rumors at shrinking colleges14:19 – Factor contributing to the shrinking higher education sector17:51 – Sucking at deconstructing organizations19:40 – The importance of purpose driven businesses20:00 – The stages of grief transitioning out of higher education22:02 – Transitions by William Bridges23:00 – Rebuilding a new identity25:51 – Jodah pushes his piano playing limits27:35 – The volatility of the tech sector normalizes big career transitions30:00 – Discovering the non-profit pathway to a new beginning36:00 – The big hardships of Julie’s transition40:00 – Moving from status to empathy41:00 – What is a fiscal sponsorship organization51:00 – The hope people should gain from Julie’s story#leadership #HigherEducation #non-profit #TransferrableSkills #transitions #grief #fiscal sponsorship #purposedrivenbusiness #fear #collegeleadership
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Dan and Jodah speak with Sense & Signal Alumnus Jesan Sorrells and Kimberly J Benoit, to explore and debate the role of communication in organizations. Communication in organizations is a multifaceted process marked by various complexities. Diverse backgrounds, roles, and communication styles within the workforce can lead to misunderstandings and language barriers. Hierarchical structures may distort communication flows, affecting decision-making. Technological advancements and remote work introduce challenges related to information overload and virtual miscommunication. Additionally, organizational culture and climate significantly impact communication effectiveness, with trust and transparency being crucial. Overcoming these complexities requires promoting clarity, active listening, fostering an open communication culture, providing training, and leveraging appropriate technology. Effective communication is essential for organizational success.Join Dan, Jodah, and friends as they, not so seriously, take very seriously the issues of communication around leadership and organizations. Jesan Sorrells is the CEO and Founder of HSCT Publishing, LLC.https://www.jesansorrells.com/leadership-lessons-from-the-great-books/Kimberly J Benoit Known for The We’ve All Done It™ Framework, Kimberly is a leadership & workplace toxicity expert who coaches, consults, and speaks for organizations needing fresh strategies to keep great leaders, unite teams, and combat toxicity.Timestamps:01:39 – Kimberly’s bad communication story05:27 – Jargon and communication10:02 – Being the new person at work and communication12:40 – Non-verbal communication in the workplace15:00 – Social Proofing 21:00 – Jesan’s really bad communication story25:00 – The illusion that you have communicated26:00 – Getting fired through a Tik-Tok Video31:00 – PR communications people for leaders36:00 – Impact of hierarchies on communication38:00 – Dan’s terrible communication story39:00 – Messaging clue if someone quit or got fired43:00 – Scale of organization and communication43:58 – Is gossip always bad?50:53 – Silence as a communication tool – Is it a power trip?56:48 – Over-communication1:06:00 – Jodah’s erectile dysfunction story
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Deep in the heart of a dense forest, a community of chimpanzees live together in harmony....NOT! Jodah and Dan have both recently watched Chimp Empire,the new Netflix documentary about a tribe of Chimps that live in the forests of Uganda. Although they both felt it was an amazing undertaking and cinematic, they were mostly intrigued to watch the chimpanzees encounter challenges such as limited resources and competition for mates, leading to power struggles and conflicts, as some individuals sought to dominate and control the groups. They apply Mark Van Vogt’s evolutionary leadership theory to their analysis of Chimp Empire to identify how the leadership behaviors of these tribes may be mapped to leadership behaviors in our more complex world today. Question...what can we learn from the engagements of chimps in the wild? What evolutionary lessons can we leverage? Are there parallels to us and our work environments. Do you ever get a hankering to just grab a coat rack and run around the office screaming your head off]? We recommend you not to. Watch as Dan and Jodah try to make sense of what they watched and attempt to harvest some leadership knowledge along the way. Show Summary. The hosts, Jodah and Dr. Dan, introduce the topic of the episode, which is a BBC nature series called Chimp Empire that follows the lives and conflicts of three rival chimp families in Senegal.They discuss how the series showcases different aspects of leadership, such as power, influence, strategy, culture, communication, and innovation.They compare and contrast the leadership styles of the three chimp leaders: David, the dominant alpha male of the Fongoli group; Luthor, the ambitious challenger of the Simenti group; and Jumkin, the charismatic leader of the Baobab group.They analyze how each leader uses different tactics to maintain or gain power, such as forming alliances, exploiting resources, displaying strength, or creating narratives.They also explore how each leader faces different challenges and threats, such as predators, droughts, diseases, or internal dissent.They draw parallels between the chimp dynamics and human organizations, and share some insights and lessons for leaders in complex and uncertain environments.They conclude by reflecting on their own experiences and preferences as leaders and followers, and invite the listeners to share their thoughts and feedback on the episode.https://www.netflix.com/title/81311783#leadership #management #sensemaking #chimpanzee #empire #ChimpEmpire #evolutionarypsychology #evolutionaryleadership
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n this follow up to the previous episode on the philosophical aspects of the emergence of artificial intelligence, Dr. Dan and Jodah tackle practical ways leaders can use AI to move their organizations forward. They discuss using AI as a tool for decision making, predictive analytics, automation, customer insights, risk management, talent management, personalization, process optimization, resource allocation, and competitive intelligence.
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Jodah and Dr. Dan discuss how the rapid emergence of “Artificial” Intelligence (#AI) with the release of #chatgpt in November, 2022 will impact organizational #leadership now and in the future. They debate what artificial intelligence is - and whether artificial is really an appropriate descriptor, discuss the impact on the workforce, consider how tools like Chat GPT can improve productivity, ponder whether AI programs should be paused, and how this technology forces us to reflect on what it means to be human - and a human of value in a seemingly indifferent universe. They also talk about how Roahl Dahl’s 1953 short story, “The Great Automatic Grammatizator” predicts Chat GPT.
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Don’t Die in Space: Communication Lessons from Apollo 13Jodah and Dr. Dan applied MIT #research on effective #team dynamics to the Tom Hanks movie Apollo 13. In addition to concluding that all successful teams need Tom Hanks in a #leadership position, they use. The research to identify the characteristics of a productive team dynamic - because the research says a successful team has more to do with the #communication behaviors of the group than the leadership of any one individual. An vittal episode for any #executive or mid-level #manager or #leaders looking for ways to create productive communication #behaviors on their teams.LINK TO RESEARCHThe New Science of Building Great Teams by Alex “Sandy” Pentland, Harvard Business Reviewhttps://hbr.org/2012/04/the-new-science-of-building-great-teamsTIMESTAMPS00:00 - Apollo 13 and Communication12:00 - Research on Effective Team Communication Behaviors41:13 - Applying Communication Research to Apollo 13#leadershio #teams #communication #research #Apollo13 #movies #leadershipskills #teamdynamics #collectivecognition #distributedleaderships #training #improvization
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What can #philosophy teach organizational #leaders? In this wide ranging discussion with philosophy professor Gwendolyn Dolske, Jodah and Dr. Dan explore #happiness and #meaning in relation to #work, what leaders can learn from the #existentialists, how #GenZ is showing up to the workplace, the impacts of #socialmedia on our #attention spans and mental health, what #ChatGPT reveals about being human, and why it’s important to develop our character to be good humans and #leaders. Perfect episode for executives and managers who want to reflect on their role helping employees in multigenerational workplaces self-actualize to find meaning and happiness in their work.ABOUT GWENDOLYN DOLSKEDr. Gwendolyn Dolske is a philosophy professor and podcaster. She teaches Critical Thinking, Moral Theory, Ethics, Existentialism, and Philosophy of Sex and Love, She penned a small book Tips From The Professor, and I co-produce and co-host Good Is In The Details podcast. LINKS TO GWENDOLYN DOLSKEGood is in the Details Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/01sSTIkORzkvRLW3DW6lZJ?si=lgROpc0YTBeEQS8tuvu9jgTips from the Professor by Gwendolyn Dolskehttps://www.amazon.com/Tips-Professor-Guide-College-Success-ebook/dp/B0095K4YV2?ref_=ast_author_mpbGwendolyn’s LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gwendolyn-dolske-868a1348/TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Which Philosopher Would Make the Best Leadership Coach Game00:37 – Plato or Machiavelli02:42 – Aristotle or Thomas Hobbes04:04 – Rousseau or Derrida05:07 - Nietzsche or de Beauvoir06:07 - David Chalmers v. Sam Harris09:05 – What can leaders learn from philosophy – Aristotle and the object of life12:18 – Jodah asks about how to apply Aristotle’s philosophy to a practical workplace setting 14:01 – It is in the businesses interest to self-actualize employees15:24 – What can existentialism teach us about leadership?19:03 – Bad faith and living authentically 22:41 – Translating existential philosophy to a worker’s real-life situation28:51 – Potential elitism of Sartre’s position when applied to workplace – Being trapped in a position preventing self-actualization30:45 – Meaning making and happiness34:15 – The Myth of Sisyphus and the workplace36:27 – Failure, life is suffering, learning process38:45 – Youth, technology, social media – and meaning making with multi-generational workplaces39:56 – Gen Z politically and socially aware, shorter attention span, and relationship to work43:28 0 Teaching philosophy on Tik-Tok44:33 – Gen Z the most diverse generation and Philosophy dominated by white males46:16 – Social media, boredom, replenishing oneself 47:21 – Sleep deprivation and mental health issues due to being constantly plugged in48:14 – The Joy of Fart Jokes51:01 – Dangers of checking social media first thing in the morning52:53 – We are always on call now – increasing anxiety 54:32 – Character versus image – especially in the workplace. 01:00:00 – Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Woman, and Image01:02:52 – Fame and likes byproduct of character development01:04:10 – What can philosophy tell us about Chat GPT – meaning making and happiness01:07:10 – Dating apps and sex recession01:11:15 – What does it mean to enjoy your life?01:16:32 – How to contact Gwendolyn#leadershipskills #philosophy #socialmedia #meaning #happiness #existentialism #technology #leadership #humanexistence #digitalworld #poweroftechnology #strongleadership #humanity #character #image #ChatGPT
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Come join Jodah and Dr. Dan as they learn about the importance of #goals, #grit, and #growth in this lively and warm hearted conversation with Dr. Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski (Dr. Z). In her new book “The 3G Cycle of Life”, she shares a model for #personalgrowth and #healing born out of the traumatic experiences she endured working in the #healthcaresystem during the Covid-19 pandemic. In this episode, they discuss the dysfunctional US #healthcare system, the responsibility of #leaders to support employees, the cyclic nature of personal growth as we age, the importance of #catalysts to initiate change, and the concept of post traumatic growth. Recommended episode for middle and #executive #leaders who want to support their #employees personal growth to create a thriving #organizationalculture. ABOUT DR. ZDr. Miriam Zylberglait Lisigurski (Dr. Z) is a triple Board Certified Physician in Internal Medicine, Geriatrics, and Obesity Medicine with extensive clinical and academic experience. Dr. Z is interested in the areas of well-being, burnout, mental health, and leadership development.She completed a fellowship in Leadership Education and Development (AAMC), and certification as Mental Health Ally, and training as Physician Wellness Advocate. Dr. Z has been recognized for multiple achievements, including Mentor of the Year (AMWA 2021) and American College of Physicians Young Achiever (2017).Originally from Peru, Dr. Z has two awesome sons, a caring husband, and a supportive family. Her dream is to help others achieve lives full of joy, meaning, and well-being.CONNECT WITH DR. Z AND BUY HER BOOKhttps://www.amazon.com/3G-Cycle-Life-Achieving-Well-Being/dp/B0BVPB6M5F/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_tophttps://www.linkedin.com/in/drzmd/https://www.f3gcycle.liveTIMESTAMPS2:33 - losing our soul while doing what we love3:35 - Physicians, depression and burnout6:35 - Giving up trying to get into the labor force 8:30 - Physician suicide rates are very high10:20 - Doctors still over performing while under huge stresses13:00 - Being a woman in med school in Peru14: 00 - introduction of Guest16:10 - Dan asks Miriam about where she got her resolve to succeed in an often patriarchal domain19:50 - We discuss how taking action is important23:00 - Life is composed of cycles 25:30 - What did Miriam write the book30:30 - Jodah talks about luck as a catalyst 34:00 - Dan highlights the healthcare system as dysfunctional 36:00 - Leaders making workplace system more emotionally sustainable 40:00 - True story of resilience in the workplace 43:40 - we are introduced to the Post Traumatic Growth 48:20 - How can we help young people with resilience in this post covid world#leadership #culture #executives #healthcare #growth #grit #goals #leadershipskills #trauma#organizations #hospitals#doctors #leaders#systems #burnout#depression
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Jodah and Dr. Dan talk with leadership consultant Dan Edds about his book “Leveraging the Genetics of Leadership” in their ongoing investigation about how to improve organizational leadership in the 21st century. They delve into how leaders today need to become systems designers, building structures that move organizations toward successfully achieving their shared goals. Using DNA as a metaphor, Edds describes how one of the key features that needs to be infused throughout the organizations is a sense of love and care.
MORE ABOUT DAN EDDS
Daniel Edds, MBA is a management consultant who helps organizations develop high-impact cultures. He is the author of two books. The most recent is titled, Leveraging the Genetics of Leadership, cracking the code of sustainable team performance. You can review his work and writing through his LinkedIn page at and personal website at www.DanielEdds.com
CONTACT DAN EDDS AND READ HIS BOOK
www.DanielEdds.com
https://www.amazon.com/Leveraging-Genetics-Leadership-Sustainable-Performance/dp/1890427403/ref=sr_1_3?crid=F82VCIF14EEH&keywords=dan+edds+leadership&qid=1679243165&sprefix=dan+edds+leadership%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-3
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Timestamps00:26 – Leaders are what they repeatedly do01:21 – Leadership Analogy Game06:55 – Evolutionary theory and leadership08:22 – Aristotle, Character, & Leadership10:51 – Systems Thinking15:33 – Measuring the Value of Leadership20:00 – Organizations as People Developers25:25 – Leaders as Systems Designers31:31 – Leadership Better Understood as a System35:26 – Systems Generating Patterns of Behavior40:09 – Complexity, Leadership, & Bridge Building44:49 – Complexity Necessitates Distributed Leadership51:29 – Distributed Design55:25 – Generational Differences and Leadership1:01:00 – Servant Leadership#leadership #systems #systemsthinking #dna #organizationalleadership #love #leadership #leadershipskills #leadershiptraits #culture #design #designthinking #tech #educationalleadership #career #executives
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Dr. Dan is a TOXIC Leader
Kimberly Benoit’s book “We’ve All Done It” asks a provocative and uncomfortable question. Are you a toxic #leader? In this lively conversation, Jodah and Dr. Dan investigate the all too common experience of #toxicleadership with Kimberly - even looking into the mirror to see if we are #toxic. They discuss how #toxicleaders show up in our lives in many forms, how to assess if you're bringing toxicity to your work as a #leader, and how to address toxic leadership behaviors. They also question the toxicity of world leaders such as #PeteButtigeg, #DonaldTrump, and #Jimmy Carter. Finally, Kimberly shares some advice on the challenges of #writing about #leadership. A lively and humorous episode perfect for #executives and #middlemanagers interested in improving their #leadershipskills.
ABOUT KIMBERLY BENOIT
Kimberly J Benoit is a leadership & workplace toxicity expert who coaches, consults, and speaks for organizations needing fresh strategies to keep great leaders, unite teams, and combat toxicity. As the bestselling author of the book, “We’ve All Done It,” and host of the podcast of the same name, Kimberly’s on a compassionate, sometimes humorous mission to help us get real about the role we each play in creating toxic workplaces, so we can become more confident leaders, teams, and organizations in the process.
An award-winning leader herself, Kimberly has more than 20 years of experience across a variety of industries and companies from small nonprofits to Fortune 50s like Target. For these organizations, she’s strategically developed and guided high-profile initiatives, organizational transformations, and professional development programs. Her key credentials include two Innovation Awards from Target Corporate, PMP, Mindfulness Certification, Associate Certified Coach (ACC) from International Coach Federation, and two master’s degrees.
Based in New Orleans, LA, Kimberly partners with clients globally.
LINKS TO KIMBERLY BENOIT
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com/services/coaching/
https://kimberlyjbenoit.com/services/speaking/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Top 5 Toxic Leadership Behaviors
06:21 - Introducing Kimberly Benoit
07:11 - How dare you call me a toxic leader, Kimberly!
07:57 - All leaders can be toxic sometimes
09:16 - Jodah thinks Kimberly’s book is a mirror
13:11- Generational differences and leadership
14:22 - People quitting cultures
18:05 - A word from our sponsor - Toxic Interim Managers
19:09 - Emotional support at work
21:15 - Dan’s definition of toxic culture
22:43 - Puffing up and armoring up
24:01 - 10 count before responding
36:57 - How do you know you’re not just dealing with a toxic employee?
41:43 - Getting someone to challenge your narrative
51:23 - Swinging for the fences when you have nothing to lose
52:10 - Jodah’s decapitation story
54:31 - Celebrity leaders - Pete Buttigeg, Donald Trump and Jimmy Carter
01:08:59 - Writing about leadership
01:23:51 - How to contact Kimberly Benoit
01:25:11 - Disney is coming after us
leadership #toxicleadership #work #organizations #PeteButtigeg #DonaldTRump #JimmyCarter #writing #writiingaboutleadership #highereducation #yech #siliconvalley
mentorship #coaching #Culture #quitting #Generations #GenZ #Millenials #GenX #defensiveness #emotionalsupport #badleaders #podcast #humor
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Why Distributed Leadership is the FUTURE
Jodah and Dan talk with Tech executive Michael Peachey about the concept of distributed leadership in both the tech and higher education sectors. What exactly is distributed leadership and how does one design their organizations to promote a flattened out structure where everyone has the opportunity to step into leadership roles? And how can theories of distributed leadership be used to strengthen EDI initiatives, remote operations, and employee engagement? Finally, what are the dangers of remote operations in the future and how do we train leaders and design organizations to function in a more distributed organizational environment?
ABOUT MICHAEL PEACHEY
Michael builds high-performing, low-drama, user experience and product teams with a focus on enterprise and consumer software in organizations from startups working to find their initial product-market fit to multi-billion dollar revenue public companies. I knew Michael when he was leading user experience design at TIBCO software, working with him on a global team of onsite and remote designers that he had built, starting with the first UX hire. Since then, Michael has continued to work at the intersection of product design and development in cybersecurity at Sumo Logic and ZeroWall, and in remote employee collaboration at RingCentral. Michael is a frequent contributor on the future of work and has a keen fascination with leadership at a distance, a topic which has become even more critical in a post-COVID world of hybrid work.
CONTACT MICHAEL PEACHEY
https://www.linkedin.com/in/peachey/
https://www.peachey.com
TIMESTAMPS
3:29 - What is distributed leadership?
6:29 - Directionality and distributed leadership
7:14 - Determining when a distributed model is useful and when it is not
10:36 - Crisis management and command and control leadership
13:55 - Differences between distributed leadership and 20th century hierarchies
15:19 - What value will distributed leadership give us?
16:58 - Distributed leadership & complexity
19:03 - The power of story in leadership
20:40 - Michael’s favorite organizational leadership story
22:34 - The group mind is superior to the individual mind
24:10 - The occult and the egregore
27:24 - Distributed leadership in the tech sector
29:24 - How to convince leaders to embrace distributed leadership? And the importance of defining roles.
33:17 - distributed leadership in complex organizations like higher education institutions
36:00 Difference between micro and macro managing
39:36 - Fuzzy direction in post COVID world
43:45 - Distributed leadership in a physically distributed, remote work environment
45:45 - Leaders need soft skills to thrive in a distributed environment
48:34- Distributed leadership and impact of efficiencies and speed
50:37 - Dan’s monologue about remote work during COVID and the future
53:13 - Importance of leading with intentionality
55:11 - Importance of workplace friendships and mentors
1:00:00 - Getting trained on soft skills
1:06:00 - What’s the future with in-person v remote work?
1:23:00 - How tp contact Michael Peachey
leadership #distributedleadership #tech #highereducation #jodahjensen #dantarker #michaelpeachey #design #intentionality #remotework #workfriends #oeganizations #complexity
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The Dark Triad Survival Guide - How to Battle Machiavellians, Narcissists, and Psychopaths in the Workplace
Machiavellians, #Narcissists, and #Psychopaths are running around our organizations causing all kinds of mayhem. And some are rising to top #leadership positions because of their diabolical #personality traits. What can we do to survive?
Join Jodah and Dan with a lively panel discussion with Leadership Consultant Zoe Fragou and Innovation Designer Brad Topliff to develop your #Dark Triad Survival Kit. Learn how to identify #narcissists, #Machiavellians, and #psychopaths in your organizations, why they behave in the destructive ways they do, and what you can do to protect yourself against someone who has one - or all of these - #Dark Triad #personality traits.
MORE ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU
Zoe Fragou - Organizational Psychologist || PhD candidate || Leadership Developer || Team-Building Expert || Awarded Business Coach
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/
MORE ABOUT BRAD TOPLIFF
Brad, like Liam Neeson, has a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a very long career. He is an organizational Swiss Army Knife. He has a new blog at workquilibrium.com where he will share his thoughts on how organizations and employees can learn to love (or at least like) each other.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradtopliff/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
TIMESTAMPS
00:01 - The Pop Culture Dark Triad Trivia Game
05:38 - Defining narcissism, machiavellianism, and psychopathy
08:48 - How to identify a narcissist, machiavellian, or psychopath in your organization
09:12 - Is Donald Trump dark triad?
09:31 - Tps of companies narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths can be successful in
12:06 - Factor analysis and the dark triad
21:24 - Don Draper and organizations putting up with dark triad leaders
23:45 - Negative effects of dark triad leaders on a company
27:29 - Is Elon Musk a psychopath?
32:46 - Do you need to have dark triad traits to be as successful as Steve Jobs?
39:04 - Does our society romanticize dark triads traits too much in the media?
47:47 - Nature v. Nurture and dark triad
50:48 - Dark triad leaders don’t want to change
53:10 - How to protect yourself from a dark triad leader?
55:21 - Gender roles and the dark triad
57:13 - Traits of the dark triad you’ll see in an organization
57:59 - The dark triad in higher education
01:02:00 - Top 10 psychopath jobs
01:04:43 - What can you do about narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths at work pt 2
01:05:13 - Transparency and accountability as tools to battle narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths
01:07:36 - Confirm people’s perceptions about the behaviors of narcissists, machiavellians, or psychopaths at work
01:14:29 - How to contact Zoe Fragou and Brad Topliff
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Spiritual Entrepreneurship with UGG Founder Brian Smith
Jodah and Dan discuss spirituality, entrepreneurship, and leadership with UGG founder Brian Smith. They unpack his book The Birth of a Brand to explore how Brian persisted despite multiple setbacks to turn the UGG brand into one of the most recognized companies in the world. Brian shares insights about what makes a strong brand, the characteristics of a successful entrepreneur, the life cycle of a new business, the importance of standing up to toxic people in the workplace, and why it's important to trust your goosebumps.
BUY BRIAN SMITH’S BOOK THE BIRTH OF A BRAND
https://www.amazon.com/The-Birth-of-Brand-Brian-Smith-audiobook/dp/B07JDD9HNT/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2J0YQ7OTHSP51&keywords=birth+of+a+brand&qid=1676221266&sprefix=birth+of+a+brand%2Caps%2C235&sr=8-1
CONTACT BRIAN SMITH
Briansmithspeaker.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:53 - Brian’s favorite entrepreneur albums
01:29 – Brian on Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon
02:52 – Brian on Pink Floyd’s The Wall
04:09 – Brain is preparing a speech on spirituality and entrepreneurship
05:41 – The roots of Brian’s spirituality
06:31 – Brian almost dies in a fire
08:12 – Brian on the importance of listening to your goosebumps
09:50 – Brian on importance of spirituality and making personal connections in business and in the family
12:21 – Brian on how failure doesn’t exist until you give up
14:38 – How your greatest disappointments can become your greatest blessings
15:52 – Importance of persistence in Brian’s story
16:24 – What kept Brian going despite so many challenges founding the Ugg brand
16:48 – Australian’s born with sheep skin knowledge
17:54 – Brian converts a resistant buyer making them try on an Ugg without their socks on
19:07 – Brian felt an obligation get Ugg boots on people’s feet
19:52 – Is an entrepreneur a problem solver?
19:58 - What is an entrepreneur?
20:13 – We all have a calling
21:25 – The entrepreneur takes the unpredictable route
22:06 – You can’t give birth to adults
23:42 – Finding the customer’s objection
24:35 – Nike starting out at the same time as Ugg
27:13 – What is a brand?
29:34 – Importance of authenticity in branding
31:56 – Influencer as marketer
32:18 – Rush Limbaugh as Ugg brand spokesperson
36:50 – Ugg & Nordstroms
40:05 - Capitalization
43:43 – Importance of Inventory financing
46:14 – What did Brian learn about leadership?
49:00 – Business like a growing child
53:59 – Letting go of the details as you advance in your ranks
57:04 – What should entrepreneurs be thinking about today?
58:25 – Importance of having something to build on
59:27 – Things entrepreneurs should do to keep going
01:02:58 – Toxic people in the workplace
01:08:11 – Standing up to toxic people
01:09:52 – Selling Ugg company
01:13:18 – Brian’s life after Ugg
01:16:07 – Contacting Brian Smith
leadership #entrepreneurship #Ugg #spirituality #business
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DISRUPTIVE TECHNOLOGIES - Blockchain, Bitcoin, and Decentralized Finance
In this panel discussion, Jodah and Dan talk with returning guest Mr. Key and new guest Jörgen Ringman about how blockchain, bitcoin, and decentralized finance will impact organizational leadership in the coming years.
ABOUT MR. KEY
Mr. KEY (Karnika E. Yashwant) is an impact entrepreneur building and supporting the next billion dollar start-ups. Co-founder of Forward Protocol (Wordpress of web3), and founder of KEY Difference Media (largest and oldest blockchain marketing agency and incubator), he has been in the blockchain space since 2013. He continues to hold many strategic positions, and is a sought after speaker and advisor in the crypto sphere. He is based in Dubai.
https://linktr.ee/KarnikaYashwant
https://linkedin.com/in/mrkey
KEY Overview: https://docsend.com/view/a9jbfi8sdttgkypn
Other Websites:
Keydifferencemedia.com
Utopian.capital
Forwardprotocol.io
ABOUT JORGEN RINGMAN
Jörgen Ringman is impact entrepreneur, philanthropist, conscious leader. Founder of Water150 by Longhouse Foundation(connecting blockchain with real world assets by tokenizing 1000 of the best spring water wells in the world) and earlier founder of Memira Eye surgery chain in northern Europe.
https://water150.io/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
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The DANGERS and BENEFITS of Storytelling: Panel Discussion with Hana Gala & Jesan Sorrells
In this wide-ranging conversation, Jodah and Dan tackle the topic of organizational storytelling with leadership consultants Hana Gala and Jesan Sorrells. From the issue of the atomization to the importance of being able to embrace multiple realities, the conversation brings in Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Campus, Sartre, Shakespeare, and Joan Didion to illustrate points about the dangers and benefits of storytelling and organizational leadership. Other topics include storytelling and embodiment, the importance of aligning personal narratives and behaviors, and the role followership plays in constructing shared narratives of organizational culture.
MORE ABOUT HANA GALA
Hana teaches Hospitality Management at South Seattle College where she combines her extensive experience in applied research, data analytics, and daily business operations with her insights into somatic intelligence and embodiment, as well as the rewriting of deep beliefs and behavioral patterns.
Hana also serves as the Director of Corporate Coaching for North America in her role as a partner with the consultancy Leadership Associates based in Vienna, Austria. Hana supports her clients through the integration of neurobiology and the transformative power of art and embodiment.
Hana’s LINKEDIN https://www.linkedin.com/in/hana-kabele-gala-068a9a22/
Leadership Associates https://leadership.associates/
MORE ABOUT JESAN SORRELLS
HSCT is remote-first, video-based, software publishing platform company located in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. HSCT seeks to help organizations manage and reduce the impact of workplace conflict, encourage organizational innovation, and increase optimal outcomes around leadership development, conflict management and change management. HSCT leverages content platforms, training, and education via their Leadership Toolbox and LeadingKeys products.
Jesan’s latest book 12 Rules for Leaders: The Foundation of Intentional Leadership advances the idea that all problems in all organizations can be solved through the intentional application of effective leadership practices and principles. Leaders who have heard Jesan’s message have changed cultures, changed organizations, and changed their work lives by changing their mindsets, their teams, and their organizations.
Jesan hosts and produces the Leadership Lessons from the Great Books podcast, and previously published Marketing for Peace Builders: How to Market Your Value to a World in Conflict, in 2016 and My Boss Doesn’t Care: 100 Essays on Disrupting Your Workplace by Disrupting Your Boss, in April 2019.
Jesan’s LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesansorrells/
Leadership Toolbox: https://leadershiptoolbox.us/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
#organizationalstorytelling #storytelling #leadership #followership #embodiment #allignment #literature #meaning #atomization #culture
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Jodah and Dan discuss the latest leadership headlines over a couple glasses of wine,.
Elon has recently closed the Seattle office and asked people to work from home. This is an almost 180 from a previous stance, where he was adamant to have his employees come back to the office. Why has he made this switch? Are their economic pressures making leaders rethink the concept of remote work? What are the impacts to work and our communities of everyone begins to work at home more ? These are things we discuss in the first part of the show.
In the second part we acknowledge that times are a' changing, but has leadership kept up. What will it take for modern leadership and organizations to succeed in what seems like a rapidly changing environment. The world can often seem like a rudderless ship, without a captain. Whether true or not, what kinds of approaches and methods are at our disposal to thrive in the chaos.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:53 - This was not the planned episode
3:00 - Dan rants about the quality of business articles
6:50 - Elon Musk closes Seattle office and asks for people to work from home
9:40 - Main reason why he closing Seattle office
10:10 - Recession reality check by Dan
10:50 - Companies are reacting to possible recession
11:15 - Is Tech sector is a canary in coal mine for economy?
13:15 - Traditional leaders, Non-traditional leaders, and working from home
19:30 - Working from home helps with employee retention
20:20 - Jodah thinks collaboration takes a hit when working from home
26:00 - Are going to design and plan for the changes to society from remote work
29:05 - Leveraging the are of sense making and improvisation
30:00 - Definition of Pivoting and Sense Making
31:30 - Leaders adapting in modern times
35:00 - Train leaders to understand when they are in periods of uncertainty
37:15 - Fragility of organizational communication
38:50 - Diverse opinions and thoughts
39:55 - Barrier to improvisation and change
43:40 - Rapid prioritization
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The Terror of Chat GPT: In Conversation with Jack Wang
Dan discovered Chat GPT one day while doom scrolling through You Tube. The messenger – Jack Wang, an Associate Professor of Microbiology at University of Queensland. A videographer and YouTuber, Jack was using his channel to explore how Chat GPT might one day displace him as a teacher and to investigate whether this new AI bot could be used as an office assistant. Now, Jack is joining Dan and Jodah to talk about what he has discovered about Chat GPT and what he fears most about Open AI’s latest release.
ABOUT JACK WANG
Associate Professor Jack Wang completed a dual degree in Science and Information Technology in 2006 and his doctoral studies studied the interface between molecular bioscience and microbiology. Jack’s educational research revolves around measuring the impact of integrating technology in large science classes with >1000 students a semester. In 2020 he was named the Australian University Teacher of the Year.
JACK WANG’S LINKS
My YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/biolabcollective
My website: https://jackwang.com.au
My free weekly newsletter: https://crossoverconnections.substack.com/
SENSE & SIGNAL WEBSITE
https://senseandsignal.com/?fbclid=IwAR0YDRcO7wAzpuQhblOdIIAhUdXfQCoc-3WYVswMdNBWto7d67XS-brm6Y8
ABOUT THE SENSE & SIGNAL PODCAST
Join the Sense and Signal podcast to discover the secrets to effective leadership in complex organizations.
We believe learning about modern day leadership and what it takes to shepherd organizations through todays quagmire should not only be interesting, but also irreverent and entertaining. Our goal is to support and educate current and aspiring leaders at all levels and from all sectors to adapt to an increasingly complex organizational environment. Here we will talk about:
• Leadership
• Sense Making and Problem solving tools
• Data Analytics
• Organizational Culture
• Communication through storytelling
• Innovation
• Team Dynamics
• Current Trends around organizational leadership
Call to Action
Subscribe to this channel to get immediate insights and solutions to the burning problems facing as an organizational leader and citizen. Also, click here to watch our introduction video.
Just because we are laughing does not mean we are not taking things seriousl
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
chatGPT #leadership #Highereducation #teaching #Microsoft #ElonMusk #terror #existentialcrisis #OpenAI #chatbots
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Why Another Freaking Leadership Podcast?
Jodah and Dr. Dan reflect on the first sixth months of the Sense & Signal podcast. They discuss why they started a new leadership podcast, what makes this show different from other leadership podcasts, and how they plan to develop the show going forward. They also reflect some of the themes that emerged after interviewing their first round of guests and about leadership. Plus, there is an informal review of the Netflix movie White Noise. Good episode for current and aspiring leaders at all levels of an organization.
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS
00:53:00 – Review of White Noise
05:33:08 – Development o the Sense & Signal podcast
07:20:26 – Why the hell have another leadership podcast?
13:41:16 – Who is Jodah Jensen?
14:37:25 – Jodah and Dan in San Franciosco
15:58:11 – Who is Dan Tarker?
23:21:11 – Challenges of starting a podcast
26:29:09 – Why does the world need Sense & Signal in particular?
36:35:07 – Importance of the guests
40:24:12 – Theme of storytelling and leadership
42:21:21 – Theme of leadership in postindustrial, sensemaking organizations
44:05:21 – Theme of empathy in the organization
46:43:19 – theme of leadership and disruptive technologies like blockchain and bitcoin
51:37:20 – Theme of data analytics
53:40:09 – Theme of mental frameworks
ABOUT THE SENSE & SIGNAL PODCAST
Join the the Sense and Signal podcast to discover the secrets to effective leadership in complex organizations.
We believe learning about modern day leadership and what it takes to shepherd organizations through todays quagmire should not only be interesting, but also irreverent and entertaining. Our goal is to support and educate current and aspiring leaders at all levels and from all sectors to adapt to an increasingly complex organizational environment. Here we will talk about:
• Leadership
• Sense Making and Problem solving tools
• Data Analytics
• Organizational Culture
• Communication through storytelling
• Innovation
• Team Dynamics
• Current Trends around organizational leadership
Call to Action
Subscribe to this channel to get immediate insights and solutions to the burning problems facing as an organizational leader and citizen. Also, click here to watch our introduction video.
Just because we are laughing does not mean we are not taking things seriously.
leadership #sensemaking #podcast
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Escaping Hustle Culture Through Corporate Rehab: In Conversation with Jennie Blumenthal
Dan and Jodah talk with Jennie Blumenthal, founder of Corporate Rehab and author of the book by the same name. They discuss how she quit her high-stress corporate job during the pandemic and began researching and writing this book to help others escape the toxic work cultures pervading corporations - and beyond. She offers a framework to help people transform their mind, body, and spirit to thrive in their work and personal life. More topics in the Timestamps section below.
ABOUT JENNIE BLUMENTHAL
After spending 20 years in Corporate America helping Fortune 500 companies manage multi-million dollar growth strategies, Jennie left her partnership in a global consulting firm to launch her own leadership company. In addition to her role as CEO, she also serves as a professional speaker, an Adjunct Professor in Strategy, a Board member, and the author of Corporate Rehab: Ditch the Hustle Culture and Thrive Again.
Her coaching and speaking business focuses on female executives looking to reach the next level of leadership without losing themselves in the process, and on companies interested in building human-centered cultures. She lives in Washington, DC with her husband, two kids, and puppy, and is trying to enjoy this chance to rewrite the next chapter of her career and life by running 10 milers, learning poetry, and joining an adult ice hockey league.
JENNIE’S WEBSITE
www.corporate-rehab.com
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS
02:01 – Jennie Quits Her Job – His that feel?
03:19 – What was it about the pandemic that led people to quit their jobs?
03:57 – Mortality and work priorities
05:15 – Who was Jennie Blumenthal before the pandemic?
07:44 – Pressure of being the only woman in the C-Suite and stereotype threat
09:27 – Hustle culture as an addiction
11:19 – Addiction masking emptiness and trauma
12:25 – Age / generation and hustle culture
14:35 – Unconscious influence on our actions
16:12 – Challenge changing boundaries
16:38 – Storytelling & hustle culture
18:49 – Do we live in a culture designed to fulfill Boomer’s needs?
20:06 – Age and stage and needs
21:59 – Four generations in the workplace
23:03 – We talk about mortality again
25:22 – The Rehab framework
26:55 – Connection between hustle culture and identity
28:11 – Design thinking’s influence on Rehab framework
29:19 – Women and hustle culture
33:18 – Jodah suffers a microaggression while playing piano
34:12 – Gender and organizational structures
36:10 – Jennie’s writing process
38:30 – Using social media to create an agile writing process
40:31 – Theories informing her book
41:59 – Trauma theories
44:44 – Generational differences and openness about mental health issues
46:43 – What does a thriving organization look like?
48:36 – People leaving their jobs due to lack of respect
50:12 – Organizations need an empathy revolution
51:49 – Is empathy innate or can it be developed in people?
54:16 – Empathy as a value in the organization
57:24 – Is Jennie thriving now?
58:38 – Elon Musk taking over Twitter
01:02:57 – Key takeaways and how to get Jennie’s book Corporate Rehab
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Sense & Signal Podcast: Bad Storytelling is Destroying the World - In Conversation with Hana Gala
Jodah and Dan discuss hospitality, leadership, storytelling, complexity, and Donald Trump with leadership consultant and Seattle Colleges faculty member Hana Gala. They delve into how her experience growing up in Communist Czechoslovakia informs her approach to leadership, her journey into the hospitality industry, what attracted her to teaching, and how she transitioned into becoming an international leadership consultant. See the Timestamp section for more topics.
ABOUT HANA GALA
Hana brings a unique blend of both practical experience from the world of business operations (hotels, high-end restaurants) as well as conceptual theoretical background rooted in academic training and applied research (Charles University, University of Oxford, Cornell pUniversity). Hana has been an instructor in the Bachelor of Applied Science program in Hospitality Management at South Seattle College for over a decade. She is passionate about connecting students to the industry and designing curriculum that is practical yet challenging and meeting students where they are on their trajectory of professional and personal growth.
Hana has been an active member of many industry associations (SHFM, NACE, HFTP), consulted with multiple Fortune 500 companies (Microsoft, Coca-Cola) and is a certified executive coach and embodiment specialist. She’s particularly interested in discovering purpose
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HANA GALA
https://leadership.associates/
https://leadership.associates/about-and-team/hana-kabele/
New website coming out by Christmas!
Some resources:
https://www.bravenewwork.com/
https://thecynefin.co/about-us/about-cynefin-framework/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS 01:39 -Is leadership situational? 03:58 - Hospitality management & leadership 06:32 - Etymology of the word hospitality 07:12 - The gods and hospitality 07:55 - Importance of physical safety and leadership 10:26 -Hana’s journey from hospitality manager to teacher to leadership consultant 17:36 - Helping people do well as leadership motivator 22:39 - Bifurcation of education and the workplace 24:44 - Travesty of compelled silence and losing individuality in the workplace 27:09 - Should the workplace be required to provide meaning and purpose to workers? 29:48 - Finding purpose and meaning as process of self-discovery 30:45 - Complexity theory & bad storytelling 32:26 - Jennifer Garvey-Burger 32:48 - Heider and Simmel psychology video 1944 34:49 - There’s no failure, only feedback 36:19 - Using storytelling to build value from within 37:18 - We are hardwired to be storytellers 39:04 - We are shitty storytellers 40:54 - Kark Weick and Organizational Leader as Story and Meaning Maker 42:18 - Leaders and coaches as storytelling mentors 44:30 - James McGregor Burns and political leadership 46:50 - Increasing complexity of leadership due to online world and globalization 49:53 - Vaclav Havel 51:28 - Relationship between the individual and the system 58:35 - Ionesco’s Rhinoceros and non-conformity 1:05:20 - Should we do an episode on Donald Trump? 1:14:36 - Key takeaways 1:17:23 - How to contact Hana #leadership #hospitality #storytelling #politicalleadership #meaning #purpose #complexity
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What Genghis Khan Can Teach Us About Marketing Analytics: In Conversation with Christina Inge
Jodah and Dan take a deep dive into marketing analytics with entrepreneur Christina Inge, author of Marketing Metrics, owner of Toughlight, and lecturer of marketing at Brandeis University and Northeastern University. Beginning with a discussion about why marketing metrics are valuable to leaders, they explore a range of topics from what Genghis Khan can teach us about marketing, the importance of empathy in developing campaigns, and the importance of the ethical use of data.
MORE ABOUT CHRISTINA INGE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinainge/
Marketing Metrics by Christina Inge: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B758YR39/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0
Thoughtlight: https://thoughtlight.net
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS
02:34 - Why are marketing metrics important?
04:13 - Christina’ journey as a marketer and how Google influenced her over her career
07:38 – Why is high fidelity data important?
08:41 - Demographic targeting in marketing
10:37 - What Joan of Arc, Alexander the Great, Hannibal, Genghis Khan can teach us about marketing demographics
13:02 - The forgotten Gen X demographic
16:31 - Psychographics
22:35 - Can analytics be limiting?
26:21 - Data analysis and bias
29:55 - Importance of diversity of perspective to avoid groupthink
31:50 - Social inequality reproduced in algorithms
33:02 - Qualitative vs. quantitative data
37:07 - Creating buy-in by talking about research methodology
38:48 - Danger of misinterpreting outlier data and problems with rational thinking and decision making
42:01 - Agile, Scrum, and interactive processes in marketing
47:59 - Empathy and ethics in marketing
52:38 - The dangers of negative empathy and using data to manipulate people
59:55 - Key takeaways from this conversation
leadership
marketing
metrics
analytics
empathy
ethics
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Tarker’s Grandmother Learns About Blockchain: In Conversation with Mr. Key
Jodah and Dan talk with Karnika Yashwant otherwise known as Mr. Key. A web 3.0 entrepreneur, he is the founder of Key Difference Media and co-founder of Forward Protocol. He takes on the challenge of explaining Blockchain and Bitcoin so Dan’s grandmother could understand it, They also delve into the philosophy behind Blockchain, Mr. Key’s personal journey as an entrepreneur, and how leadership is changing in the web 3.0 environment.
MR. KEY”S BIO
Mr. KEY (Karnika E. Yashwant) is an impact entrepreneur building and supporting the next billion dollar start-ups. Co-founder of Forward Protocol, and founder of Utopian Capital and KEY Difference Media, he has been in the blockchain space since 2013. He continues to hold many strategic positions, and is a sought after speaker and advisor in the crypto sphere. He is based in Dubai.
https://linktr.ee/KarnikaYashwant
https://linkedin.com/in/mrkey
KEY Overview: https://docsend.com/view/a9jbfi8sdttgkypn
Other Websites:
Keydifferencemedia.com
Utopian.capital
Forwardprotocol.io
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
TIMESTAMPS
01:44 - Mr. Key explains blockchain to Tarker’s grandmother
06:08 - Philosophy behind blockchain
08:04 - Blockchain and bitcoin
09:53 - How do cryptocurrencies get their value?
15:00 - Mr. Key’s personal story of becoming a web 3.0 entrepreneur
18:45 - How Mr. Key’s career changed going from web 2.0 to web 3,0
20:16 - Jodah and Dan psychoanalyze Mr. Key
25:46 - Why should grandma care about blockchain?
35:41 - Decentralized financing
39:46 - What does blockchain mean to leadership structures?
46:29 - Web 3.o and leadership among middle managers
52:15 - Value and personal brands in Web 3.0
57:25 - Key takeaways from this conversation
blockchain #bitcoin #web3.0 #leadership #entrepreneurship
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Sense & Signal Podcast: Leading Through Sensemaking
Director of Innovation and Collaboration at TIBCO.
In this episode Jodah and Dan engage in a wide spanning discussion with Brad Topliff about what it means to innovate, what leading innovation looks like, how to create a culture of innovation, and how workplace empathy is the secret source to innovation. They also discuss the mysterious concepts of hopium, careijuana, and workquilibrium.
TIMESTAMPS
3:29 – What is a Director of Innovation and Collaboration?
5:14 – What is Innovation to Brad?
8:32 – Innovation and Natural Constraints
13:58 – Brad’s Journey to His Current Position
19:15 – Starting an Innovation Department
20:01 – Process for Stimulating Innovation in an Organization
24:40 – Silicon Valley Kool-Aid and Hopium
27:06 – Awkward Pause
29:40 – Innovation & Ethics
31:01 – Silicon Valley is Like a Casino in Vegas
32:40 – Everything is a Product
33:46 – What Do Toxic Leaders in Silicon Valley Look Like?
35:19 – Workquilibrium
42:57 – Higher Ed and Hopoum
46:39 – Relationship To Work Changing Over Time
50:28 – Empathy is the Secret Sauce
52:03 – Dark Empathy
1:03:07 – Wrap-Up
MORE ABOUT BRAD TOPLIFF
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradtopliff/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
innovation #empathy #worklifeblaance
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In this episode Dan and Jodah speak with Dan Torres, a Product Manager at a little startup called Google. In this hour we discuss areas of product management and how the role helps companies find their meaning.
TIMESTAMPS
2:00 – What is a Product Manager
6:50 – History of Product Management
9:00 – Dan Torres’s History as a Product Manager
10:55 – What Makes a Good Product Manager
17:29 – Product Management & Research
24:34 – What is the controversy around term CEO and Product Managers
31:50 – Formal leadership versus influence
36:20 – Tactics to win friends and influence people
39:06 - Assessing values of an organization
42:50 – Hierarchies versus flattened organizational structures
46:16 – Importance of Clearly Defined Roles
MORE ABOUT DAN TORRES
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjtorres/
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
leadership
productmanagement
Agile
Influence
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The Haunted Podcast – 4 Terrifying Movies About Organizational Leadership
For Halloween season, Jodah and Dan discuss four classic horror movies and what they can teach us about organizational leadership and sensemaking. The movies include The Thing (1982), Frankenstein (1931), The Shining (1981), and Q The Winged Serpent (1982). Join us for this lively conversation about these terrifying – an informative - topics.
TIMESTAMPS:
02:37 – The Thing (1982)
23:38 – Frankenstein (1931)
41:33 – The Shining (1981)
1:00 – Q The Winged Serpent
MORE ABOUT JODAH JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
leadership
halloween
horrormovies
thething
frankenstein
theshining
qthewingedserpent
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Sense & Signal: Leadership, Literature, & Social Media:
In Conversation with Jesan Sorrells
Jodan and Dan welcome Jesan Sorrells, CEO of HSCT Publishing and the author of My Boss Doesn’t Care and 12 Rules for Leaders. He is also the podcast host of Leadership Lessons from the Great Books. We discuss how literature – especially Shakespeare and Jane Austin – can help leaders with their sensemaking – and the need to put social media in its proper place when we make meaning of our world.
TIMESTAMP:
01:33 – Leadership and literature
04:01 – Literature as virtual reality
04:53 – Literature & sensemaking
07:00 – Timelessness of Shakespeare
07:53 – Anti-human nihilism and loss of meaning
09:30 – Meaning from Art
10:39 – Pre-God is Dead Literature
13:43 – Nietzsche
17:23 – Books every leader should read
25:47 – Jesan’s History with Books
27:44 – Key Leadership Lessons from Shakespeare and Jane Austin
31:36 – Social Media and Srnsemaking
37:46 – Social Media Activism versus Voting
44:17 – What would the internet look like If it came out before God died?
51:57 – Sacred Economics
57:20 – Jesan’s books, websites, podcasts, and more.
MORE ABOUT JESAN SORRELS
LeadingKeys at: https://www.leadingkeys.com/
Leadership ToolBox at: https://leadershiptoolbox.us/
Leadership ToolBox on FB - https://www.facebook.com/LdrshpTlbx/
Leadership ToolBox on IG - https://www.instagram.com/leadershiptoolboxus/
Leadership ToolBox on Twitter - https://twitter.com/ldrshptlbx
Leadership ToolBox on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/ldrshptlbx/
Leadership Lessons From The Great Books Podcast - https://leadershiptoolbox.us/lessons/
Leadership Lessons From The Great Books - YouTube - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3osWfq18_FZsI-xXq89sQVFYzjPP5WB2
MORE ABOUT JODA JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
leadership
literature
shakespeare
JandAustin
Nietzsche
socialmedia
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The Mental Mastery Episode
In Conversation with Tina Greenbaum
Jodah and Dr. Dan talk with Bay Area based leadership coach Tina Greenbaum about her training program Mastery Under Pressure. They discuss her journey in becoming a leadership coach, the characteristics of a natural leader, emotional regulation under pressure, mindfulness, the changing roles of leaders in organizations, leading through ambiguity, and work/life balance for leaders. – among many other topics.
TIMESTAMPS:
3:04 – Favorite Movie About Leadership
4:40 – How Did You Become a Leadership Coach
9:35 – Characteristics of Great Leaders
10:50 – Importance of Mental Strength in Leadership
11:35 – Jodah’s Laker’s Analogy
13:13 – How Grief and Hardship Informs Leadership
17:31 – Distance, Dance Floors and Helicopters
19:33 – Mindfulness & Meditation & Leadership
21:49 – Master Under Pressure Framework
25:01 – Building Up Capacity for Tolerance
27:08 – Productive Thinking
28:30 – Growth Mindset
29:48 – Cut, Reframe, Respond
32:33 – Techniques to Stop Ruminating
36:43 – Confronting Problems
39:56 – Changing Role of Leadership in Organizations
47:56 – Leading Through Ambiguity and Uncertainty
50:56 – Work/Life Balance for Leaders
53:04 – What Do Executives Seek from Leadership Coaches?
58:01 – Leadership Coaching Success
MORE ABOUT TINE GREENBAUM
Website - masteryunderpressure.com
Quiz - masteryunderpressure.net
Tina’s TEDx Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6PqsUu_37o
Get in touch with Tina - Tina@masteryunderpressure.com
MORE ABOUT JODA JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
leadership
rumination
pressure
mindfulness
Hardship
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Playing Jenga with Organizational Culture:
In Conversation with Zoe Fragou - Organizational Psychologist and Leadership Trainer
Jodah and Dr. Dan talk with Zoe Fragou, an organizational psychologist and leadership trainer and consultant based in Athens, Greece. They discuss what literature can teach us about leadership, toxic positivity in the workplace, how organizational psychology can create a healthier corporate culture, the challenges of an intergenerational workplace, leadership training and organizational culture, psychometrics, motivation, and using arts practice in leadership development.
TIMESTAMP
2:08 - What Literature Can Teach Us About Leadership
8:10 - Toxic Positivity in the Workplace
16:28 - Organizational psychology creating healthier corporate culture
19:04 - Multiple generations in the workplace
25:04 - Leadership Training and Organizational Culture
28:44 - Organizational Culture Like a Jenga Game
36:34 - Psychometrics
46:57 - Motivation
50:00 - Art and Training Strategies
MORE ABOUT ZOE FRAGOU
Zoe’ Fragou’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fragouzoe/
Zoe Fragou’s blog post “Positive Psychology v. Toxic Positivity” blog post - https://cto.academy/positive-psychology-vs-toxic-positivity/
MORE ABOUT JODA JENSEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
MORE ABOUT DAN TARKER
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/
https://www.danieltarker.com
toxicpositivity
leadership
literature
MilanKundera
generations
motivation
psychometrics
organizationalpsychology
training
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We have nothing to say. This is a failed episode.
We have nothing to say about this episode. It's a failed podcast episode. It's just an episode about how organizations should be open to figure and even celebrate it. And we demonstrate this principle by highlighting our own failures. #leadership #sensemaking #failure #organizations #culture
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Sense & Signal Podcast:
The Death Episode – Grief, Terror, and Zombies
Jodah and Dan tackle one of the least addressed issues in organizational leadership - Death. The talk about what leaders and managers should do when an employee passes, how terror management theory can inform our organizational sensemaking, and what to do with zombie projects and programs.
Learn more about Jodah Jensen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
Learn more about Daniel Tarker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/ and https://www.danieltarker.com
Program Notes and Links
Terror Management Theory
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/terror-management-theory
Denial of Death by Ernest Becker
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2761.The_Denial_of_Death
The Birth & Death of Meaning by Ernest Becker
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/162759.The_Birth_and_Death_of_Meaning
The Ernest Becker Foundation
https://ernestbecker.org
How to Know When to Kill a Project & Cut Losses by Jennifer Bridges
https://www.projectmanager.com/training/how-to-know-when-to-kill-a-project
Project Closure: 8 Steps to Finish Projects with Confidence • Asana
https://asana.com/resources/project-closure
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In this Sense and Signal quick take, Dan unpacks Jennifer Liu's Make It article: ‘"he older model of leadership just doesn’t cut it anymore’: Why new RTO dates, power moves from CEOs could backfire."
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/07/why-new-rto-dates-power-moves-from-ceos-could-backfire-experts-say.html
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Sense & Signal Podcast:
Improv, Jazz, and the Sensemaking Organization
Jodah and Dan discuss Karl E. Weick’s concept of sensemaking organizations and how they function like jazz ensembles, nimbly addressing complex situations through improvisation. They discuss why the conversation of sensemaking organizations is important right now, what are the characteristics of a sensemaking organization, how they perform like jazz bands, their benefits and dangers, and what you can do to strengthen sensemaking in your organization.
Learn more about Jodah Jensen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah/
Learn more about Daniel Tarker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker/ and https://www.danieltarker.com
Further reading:
The Sensemaking Organization: Designing for Complexity by Cyndi Suarez
The Sensemaking Mindset: Improvisation over Strategy by Cyndi Suarez
The Sensemaking Worker: Organizing for Learning by Cyndi Suarez
Structuring for Sensemaking: The Power of Small Segments by Cyndi Suarez
Organizing and the Process of Sensemaking
sensemaking
organizations
Weick
jazz
improvization
The Sense & Signal Podcast
Is the Hiring Interview Process Broken?
Adventures Through Nightmare Interviews – with Beer
In this episode, Jodah and Dan enjoy some fine microbrews while discussing whether current approaches to the hiring interview process are broken. While they don’t solve any of the world’s problems as usual, at least they don’t spill their beer.
Find out more about Daniel Tarker at: http://danieltarker.com and www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker
Learn more about Jodah Jensen at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah
leadership
sensemaking
hiring
interviews
beer
The Sense & Signal Podcast – Episode 7
Meaning and Work: Caring for Your Diamonds
Join Jodah and Dan as they discuss whether leaders have an obligation to help employees make meaning of their work with special guest Yung Sook Koh, UX Manager with Tripwire at Help Systems.
Learn more about Yung Sook Koh on her LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yung-sook-koh-uxdesign/
Find out more about Daniel Tarker at: http://danieltarker.com and www.linkedin.com/in/dantarker
Learn more about Jodah Jensen at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodah#leadership
sensemaking
meaning
work
The Sense & Signal Podcast:
Working Remotely (or How Malcolm Gladwell Ticked Off the Internet)
Jodah and Dan discuss the controversy created by Malcom Gladwell’s comments on remote work on Steven Bartlett’s Diary of a CEO podcast. What are the pros and cons of remote work as we enter late stage COVID?
Links:
Steven Bartlett’s Diary of a CEO podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/e162-malcolm-gladwell-working-from-home-is-destroying-us/id1291423644?i=1000570664675
INC. article blasting Malcolm Gladwell
https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/malcolm-gladwell-criticizes-remote-work-engagement-podcast.html
Zippia Remote Work stats
https://www.zippia.com/advice/remote-work-statistics/
Sense & Signal Podcast Episode 5: Why Higher Education? What is its value?
Building off their previous conversation around Simon Sinek’s Golden Circle and the importance of asking why, Jodah and Dan delve into answering why higher education? What is its value? Is higher education important to society and the individual?
Links:
Report on Public Agenda study on people’s perceptions of the value of higher education:
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2022/07/12/most-americans-skeptical-value-college-degree
Vice Interview with Anya Kamenetz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAm2u_J50g
Bryan Alexander on Future of Higher Education
https://www.google.com/search?q=bryan+alexander+higher+education&source=lmns&bih=1487&biw=2504&client=safari&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6_dW05rX5AhXoKjQIHXITBjAQ_AUoAHoECAEQAA
Sense & Signal Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/518823636727833
Jodah and Dan dissect Simon Sinek’s 2009 viral Ted Talk video “Start with why -- how great leaders inspire action.” Why is asking the question why so important to connecting with employees as well as customers and clients?
Watch the Simon Sinek video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZoJKF_VuA&t=12s
Dan Tarker’s website: https://danieltarker.com
Dan Tarker’s Substack: https://tarker.substack.com
The Sense & Signal Podcast
Wrestling with Complexity
Jodah and Dan dig into the concept of complexity using David Snowden’s Cynefin sensemaking framework.
Dan Tarker’s website: https://danieltarker.com Dan Tarker’s Substack: https://tarker.substack.com
Beats by Jeff Day at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGvOpfOxwiA
The Sense and Signal Podcast
You Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Research:
Everything is Research
In this episode Jodah and Dan discuss the necessity of research in product and program development. Do you need it? Can you avoid it? What factors should you consider before investing in a research project:
research #product development #leadership
Dan Tarker’s website: https://danieltarker.com
Dan Tarker’s Substack: https://tarker.substack.com
Beats by Jeff Day at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGvOpfOxwiA
The Sense & Signal Podcast Episode 1: Gun Violence Mass Shootings
In the first episode of the Sense and Signal Podcast, Jodah and Dan discuss the issue of how organizational leaders should address the crisis of mass shootings. As a podcast focusing on sensemaking and organizational leadership, they explore how leaders should provide training so their communities are prepared to respond should one of the tragic events emerge within their organizations or communities.
You can also find a video version of this podcast on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHrVSzsADa1PQCzLEbr10YQ
You can learn more about Daniel Tarker’s leadership consulting and training services at https://danieltarker.comor by subscribing to his Substack at https://tarker.substack.com
Reflections on Jonathan Haidt's book The Righteous Minds based on posts from my Substack newsletter.
Read the posts that informed this episode at:
https://tarker.substack.com/p/deleting-elon-musk-pt-i?r=z4ct8&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
https://tarker.substack.com/p/deleting-elon-musk-part-ii?r=z4ct8&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Daniel Tarker, MFA, Ed.D. is a consultant specializing in leadership and organizational development. Learn more about his learning and development services at danieltarker.com
An audio essay episode based on a Substack post of the same name. Explores how the classic absurdist playRhinoceros speaks to the ideological polarization of our time. To subscribe to the Substack or to listen to other podcast episodes, visit danieltarker.com.
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leadership #sebsemaking #rhinoceros #ionesco #ideology
A review of two substack posts on the intersection between leadership, sensemaking and the Cynefin framework. Explores how mis-categorizing a problem as simple when it is complex can lead to chaos. Also investigates recent studies on leadership and the CIP sensemaking framework and how ideology informed Donald Trump’s response to the pandemic.
Access the Substack posts and other podcast episodes at Danieltarker.com
In episode one of The Signal, host Daniel Tarker comments on five articles on leadership that popped up on a Google News search in December 2021. More information can be found here:
http://Danieltarker.com
https://tarker.substack.com
Former CIA Agent Wonders Where the Hell Have All the Leaders Gone
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/patriotism-unity/where-have-all-our-leaders-gone
Leadership Consultant Trashes Nice People in 4-Minute Long Think Piece
https://www.fastcompany.com/90703936/3-reasons-to-stop-being-nice-at-work
FOX News Fear Mongers About Woke Leadership in Army
https://www.foxnews.com/media/american-warriors-concerned-woke-military-leadership
Leadership is a paradox, wrapped in an enigma, smothered in contradictions with a side of riddle sauce.
Article-from-balancing-confidence-and-humility-to-being-visible-and-invisible
Study with Small Sample Size Says Poor Sensemaking Can Lead to Deadly Catastrophe
https://www.unomaha.edu/news/2021/12/medeiros-leadership-style.php