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Episode 83 – MI with couples
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tyrel Starks, PhD, onto the podcast to discuss his work on MI with couples. A South Dakota native, Dr. Starks studied two years at Oberlin Conservatory before returning to the University of South Dakota to complete his undergraduate degree in psychology. He earned his PhD in child-clinical psychology from Southern Illinois University Carbondale in 2009. After a post-doctoral fellowship at Hunter College, he returned to join the faculty of the Psychology Department in 2014 and is now a professor. For more than 15 years, he has studied relationships and health, particularly substance use and HIV-related health in sexual minority men. The development of motivational interviewing with couples has been at the heart of this work. A licensed clinical psychologist and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, he is active as a trainer and clinical supervisor.
Episode index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:42 – Tyrel’s journey from music to MI
13:15 – Intersection of HIV and substance use
21:25 – Early days of Tyrel’s work with couples
26:50 – MI with couples
31:10 – Relationship functioning before talking about change
38:00 – Balancing seeking consensus with evoking change talk
50:30 – Unique shifts for the practitioner: Introspection and use of language
57:20 – How might communication within the couple change?
1:12:20 – Future directions for MI with couples
1:15:45 – Cultivating common ground from political disagreements
1:21:59 – End of episode
Contact info and related links:
Email: tstarks@hunter.cuny.edu
Learn more about Dr. Starks’ research and team: https://www.hunterrhrt.org/
Read Dr. Starks’ blog about LGBTQ+ relationships:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/queer-relationships-no-straight-lines
Learn more about MI with couples:https://global.oup.com/academic/product/motivational-interviewing-with-couples-9780197549643?cc=us⟨=en&
MI in Groups: https://www.guilford.com/books/Motivational-Interviewing-in-Groups/Wagner-Ingersoll-Contributors/9781462507924
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Episode 82 – MI at Home
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen Rollnick, PhD to the podcast to discuss the application of MI to conversations with family members. Steve is a clinical psychologist and Honorary Distinguished Professor in the School of Medicine, Cardiff, UK, and a co-founder of motivational interviewing.
He grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and lives in Cardiff, Wales. He was a practising psychologist in the UK National Health Service for 16 years, and then became a teacher and researcher on the subject of communication and behaviour change.
He has authored and co-authored books on motivational interviewing (Miller & Rollnick, 1991; 2001; 2012), and on applications in health care (Rollnick, Mason & Butler, 1999; Rollnick, Miller & Butler, 2007; 2022), schools (Rollnick, Kaplan & Rutschman, 2016) and sport (Rollnick, Fader, Breckon & Moyers, 2019).
He has published widely in scientific journals and has taught practitioners in many countries and continents. He has retired from his academic career and now focuses on projects in elite sport and healthcare.
Episode Index:
00:00 – Episode preview
07:18 – MI at home – where the idea started
13:08 – Steve’s story about working with mothers with babies infected with AIDS
20:00 – Steve recalls an article about MI at home written by his son Jake as a young man
27:30 – What else is there to change besides behavior?
46:50 – The importance of “restraint”
59:00 – Conversations with others at home (not just kids)
1:07:50 – Steve’s work with first responders and elite sportsmen
1:11:46 – End of episode
Contact information
Website: www.stephenrollnick.com
X: @stephenrollnick
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MI for Sport and Performance
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Ben Freakley, CMPC on the podcast to discussed MI in sport and performance settings. Ben is a leader in the field of applied sport and performance psychology with a career spanning over two decades. He is the founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Resilient, which provides sports and performance psychology services to individuals, teams, and organizations.
Throughout his career, Ben has held several significant positions. He served as the Head of Mental Performance for the Toronto Blue Jays, where he led the development and delivery of mental skills programs across all levels of the organization. He was also the inaugural head coach and general manager of Tormenta FC in the United Soccer League (USL). His expertise extends to tactical environments, having worked as the performance psychology coach with the 75th Ranger Regiment of the United States Army Special Operations Forces.
Ben holds a doctoral degree in Sport and Performance Psychology with an emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He is also a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) through the Association for Applied Sport Psychology (AASP). His research focus areas include leadership preferences of NCAA Division One coaches and psychological frameworks that promote human flourishing.
Before his full-time work in sport and performance psychology, Ben spent over a decade as an NCAA College Soccer coach demonstrating his versatility and depth in coaching, psychology of performance, and team culture.
In his private practice, Ben works with executives and businesses, professional athletes and teams, and NCAA college athletics programs to help them evaluate and enhance their processes, performance, and well-being.
Ben is a sought-after speaker on topics such as resilience, mental performance, motivation, leadership, and organizational culture.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:27 – Ben intro and early MI story
08:35 – Autonomy support in sport and military settings
15:01 – Shifting between following, guiding, and directing
17:20 – MI spirit in sport
24:45 – “Being a warm fire”
28:00 – Progressive sporting institutions
41:00 – What is success beyond winning?
43:00 – Situations in sport when MI helps
54:45 – Key points for coaches to learn and apply
1:04:14 – End of episode
Contact information:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ben-freakley-edd-cmpc-a5036bb1
Website: rsrcoaching.com
Email: bencfreakley@gmail.com
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Episode 80 – MI and Behaviourism
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr James Anderson to the podcast to discuss MI and behaviourism. James is a psychologist and Chief of Psychiatry at Bassett Healthcare Network in Cooperstown, NY. James is interested in the integration of behavioral health into primary care and improving the ability of our healthcare systems to provide whole-person care. He has special interest in helping people struggling with addiction, and has published work on integrating accessible and effective treatment for opioid use disorder into primary care settings. James takes a technically eclectic approach to offering psychotherapy intervention to patients in need, including use of cognitive-behavioral therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy, and of course, motivational interviewing. Theoretically, James views the human condition from a radical behaviorist viewpoint, and contrary to the common view of such an approach as encouraging a mechanistic and cold world view, sees behaviourism as underlying a philosophy of acceptance and tolerance of others.
Episode index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
6:09 – James intro and early MI story
11:24 – What is behaviorism?
19:36 – How behaviorism fits with MI
25:16 – Behaviorism and compassion
39:11 – Applying behavioral concepts to conversations about change
51:21 – Psychedelic assisted therapy
57:18 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: jamesbergeranderson@gmail.com
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MI and Health Coaching
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Amanda Gabarda, EdD and Susan Butterworth, PhD to discuss health coaching and Motivational Interviewing. Dr. Gabarda is currently the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development at UPMC Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based training, quality assurance, and health behavior change interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person health coaching and care management. Dr. Gabarda is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. She has a Bachelor and Master of Science in Exercise Science, a Master of Public Health, and a Doctorate of Education. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, and a Certified Health Education Specialist.
Dr. Susan Butterworth is currently an Associate Professor at the Center for Health System Improvement at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center and Director of Patient Engagement for the Tennessee Heart Health Network. Susan is also the founder of Q-consult, LLC which provides consulting and training services to large organizations to improve patient engagement and patient-centered care. Her clinical background is exercise physiology and she received her doctoral degree in adult education and training with a cognate in health promotion from Virginia Commonwealth University. Susan specializes in the application of motivational interviewing-based health coaching interventions in healthcare and is well-published in this area. In addition, she has been awarded or served on multiple grants to assess the impact of health coaching interventions in healthcare organizations including health plans, hospitals, and clinics. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Networking of Trainers (MINT) since 2002.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:33 – Amanda and Susan’s introduction and early MI stories
11:30 – How MI changed the delivery of health coaching
16:00 – The psychology of lifestyle change
23:00 – What has been the response to MI from clients and organizations
30:00 – Coaching as a “vehicle for learning and growing and transforming”
36:30 – Coaching as a brief intervention
42:45 – How does a health coach fit into the healthcare system
49:55 – What is the experience of being a health coach
58:00 – Research on MI and health coaching
1:05:30 – Amanda and Susan learning about artificial intelligence
1:09:20 – Real-play with Susan and Sebastian
1:18:00 – Real-play debrief
1:26:24 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- LinkedIn
- Amanda: linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc
- Susan: linkedin.com/in/susan-butterworth-qconsult
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MI and Self-Help
Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Michelle Drapkin, PhD, to discuss Motivational Interviewing and self-help. Dr. Drapkin has been working in the area of behavior change for over 20 years. She is the Owner/Director of the CBT Center and previously held roles in industry (Johnson and Johnson), academia (University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers) and federal government (Department of Veteran Affairs). She has dedicated her professional career to using psychological research to help people. She is a board-certified Clinical Psychologist and sees patients in her private practice, consults with healthcare tech start-ups, and delivers trainings and workshops on communication/motivation and health and wellbeing at work and in life. She is the sole author of The Motivational Interviewing Path to Personal Change: The Essential Workbook for Creating the Life You Want from New Harbinger Publications.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:42 – Michelle’s introduction and early MI story
10:55 – Enhancing motivation through behavioral principles
19:08 – “How does one do MI with oneself?”
24:20 – Self-compassion: Having a more effective relationship with our inner critic
30:20 – “A way of being with ourselves”
42:30 – Using Michelle’s self-help book
45:45 – Trying the “best self” exercise
1:08:25 – Michelle supporting her daughter
1:11:44 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledrapkin/
- Website: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/
- Link to Michelle’s book: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/the-motivational-interviewing-path-to-personal-change/
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Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.
Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI
in juvenile justice settings
17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury
27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury
46:55 – Applications of MI
1:12:36 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- Email: russha.knauer@state.co.us
- Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/
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Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.
Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.
She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story
15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue
19:30 – Where does the relationship go?
25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper
32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask
39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves
51:48 – Being a “provider”
1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness
1:05:14 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- Email: debracollinsconsulting@gmail.com
- Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com
- Resources Mentioned :
- Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk
- https://traumastewardship.com/
- Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/
- Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/
- Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr
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Episode 75: MI and SpiritualityGlenn and Sebastian welcomed Sky Kershner to the podcast to discuss MI and Spirituality. Sky is an Assistant Professor in Psychiatry at WVU School of Medicine.
Sky has a Doctor of Ministry degree as well as a Masters in Clinical Social Work. He is the retired Director of KPCC Counseling in Charleston, WV. Sky is a Member of MINT, the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (one of two in WV), and is a MINT Certified Trainer. Sky has trained over 8000 professionals in MI across WV, the US, and abroad.
Sky has received several awards for his professional work, including the WV Civil Rights Award and WV Counselor of the Year. Sky’s biggest “15 minutes of fame” moment is that he once appeared as a guest therapist on the Discovery Studios show “Hoarders.” He is also a contributing author for the book “ACT Therapy for Pastoral Counselors,” edited by Steven Hayes.
Sky is the Pastor at the Unity Church in Charleston and teaches psychodynamics (fear of feelings) to psychiatric residents at WVU School of Medicine, Charleston Division. Sky is an Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART) trained practitioner, and is especially interested in the way this approach can help First Responders successfully process difficult images and memories, sometimes in just one session. Sky’s presentation topics include Optimism and Resilience, Spirituality and Recovery, Trauma Informed Parenting, Trauma Informed Care, Cultural Sensitivity, and Professional Boundaries for Clergy, and Transitions.
Sky grew up in Eastern Pennsylvania, trained, practiced, and taught in New York City before making West Virginia his home over thirty years ago. Sky lives in Charleston with his wife, two kids in college, and a very little dog.
Episode Index:
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
4:50 – Sky’s introduction and early MI story
15:30 – Pastoral counseling and similarities with MI
26:30 – Spiritual experiences and change
33:00 – Autonomy supportive spirituality
47:30 – Faith as trust
58:20 – Ambivalence in spirituality: Resolution through forgiveness
1:06:30 – Sky exploring artificial intelligence
1:09:31 – End of episode
Links and Contact Information:
- Email: skykershner@gmail.com
- Website: www.wv-mi.com
- Citation for Quantum Change book referenced in episode
- Miller, W.R., & Baca, J.C. (2001). Quantum change: When epiphanies and sudden insights transform ordinary lives. Guilford Press.
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MI and Servant Leadership
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Jemima Neddy Organ to the podcast to discuss MI and servant leadership. Jemima is a community educator having worked as an instructor and training consultant in Kenya and the Middle East. In Kenya, Jemima was actively involved in advocacy and education of mental health issues in the community. She initiated the writing of the psychological bill to acknowledge counseling as a profession in Kenya. Jemima also initiated a behavior change program for youth (in a faith-based organization). The program is now in six countries in Africa due to her active training and mentoring of the leaders.
Jemima has a Ph.D. from the Organization, Information, & Learning Sciences (OILS) program at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque USA with a focus on Instructional Design (ID), Adult Education & Professional Development (AE&PD), and Motivational Interviewing in leadership (MI-Lead). Her dissertation was on “Motivational Interviewing: A Tool for Servant Leadership.” She was trained, coached, and is being mentored by Dr. William Miller, the father of MI. Jemima holds a master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from Daystar University in Nairobi, Kenya, and a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Counseling from the University of Nairobi, Kenya. Jemima has over 27 years’ of experience in the mental health profession and is also a licensed professional counselor-candidate (LPCC) in Colorado. Jemima is an active member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and she integrates her counseling skills with adult education and professional development. Her visionary personality has enabled her to initiate MI as a tool for servant leaders. Jemima gives presentations, trains, teaches, and coaches leaders on how to incorporate Motivational Interviewing in their leadership style.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Jemima introduction and early MI story
11:45 – How MI fits in the context of leadership
20:50 – Jemima’s father as an early source of hope
23:06 – What is servant leadership?
30:45 – The distinction between servant and transformational leadership
37:50 – The core skills of MI (i.e. OARS) and servant leadership
48:18 – Transitions
50:05 – End of recording
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MI and Hope in AlaskaGlenn and Sebastian discussed MI and Hope in Alaska with Sarah Niecko. Sarah is an Assistant Professor of Behavioral Health Sciences at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau, AK, USA. She has a Master of Science in Medicine and a Doctorate of Health Sciences. She is also a Duke trained Health & Wellness Coach and a recent member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers). She spent 18 years practicing behavioral and lifestyle medicine, including two years in rural Alaska partnering with Yup’ik Eskimos. It was during this time that she began to fully appreciate the transformative potential of motivational interviewing and the healing power of culture, resilience, and hope.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Transforming burnout through hope and love
14:00 – Adapting to a new world through curiosity and compassion
22:30 – Embodying the MI spirit
27:53 – “Hope is the flint of the heart”
32:03 – MI spirit directed inward before radiating it forward
36:57 – Language as a way to rediscover identity
40:00 – Creating a new integrated behavioral health program
49:52 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
Email: sniecko@alaska.edu
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Non-Suicidal Self Injury & MIGlenn and Sebastian welcomed Victoria Kress and Rachel O’Neill to the podcast to discuss non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI). Victoria E. Kress is a distinguished professor and the director of the clinical mental health and addictions counseling programs at Youngstown State University. She has been the recipient of over 50 awards, most of which for her advocacy, leadership, scholarship, community service, and mentorship initiatives. She has published over 130 articles and book chapters, and she has co-authored 5 books on clinical mental health counseling with youth and adults. She is a past president of Chi Sigma Iota International, the Association for Humanistic Counseling, the Ohio Counseling Association, and the North Central Association for Counselor Education and Supervision; she is a past ACA Midwest Region Chair; and she is a current member of the American Counseling Association’s governing council.
Rachel O’Neill, Ph.D, MBA is a licensed clinical mental health counselor who has over 20 years of experience in the mental health profession. She has over 15 years experience in higher education, serving on the faculty for several graduate-level clinical mental health counseling programs. As a practicing therapist, Dr. O’Neill has worked in a variety of clinical settings, including community-based mental health and addictions treatment, psychiatric hospitals, college counseling settings, and inpatient facilities. She has served in multiple leadership positions, including vice president of clinical services at a global telehealth company, director of a primary medical care and behavioral health organization, and executive director of a state counseling association. Dr. O’Neill’s academic work has been featured in peer-reviewed publications such as The Journal of Mental Health Counseling, The Clinical Supervisor, The Journal of LGBT & Youth, and the Journal of Creativity and Mental Health. She is an expert contributor to national publications and media, including NBC News, HBO, Teen Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Wired, Refinery 29, Cheddar News, Time magazine, and Allure. She currently works as a mental health expert in the technology industry.
0:00 – Opening and episode preview
5:00 – Victoria’s and Rachel’s early MI stories
13:45 – Non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI)
18:45 – Engaging effectively with people who exhibit NSSI
20:55 – Understanding a person’s NSSI and assessment of suicide risk
23:30 – Reframing “attention seeking” as an effort to connect
27:20 – The clinician’s experience of working with someone who exhibits NSSI
31:00 – How MI fits in conversations with people who exhibit NSSI
37:45 – Harm reduction and safety planning
44:50 – Blending MI with narrative therapy
47:10 – Pre-session intention setting for clinicians
53:45 – Change talk
58:30 – Going beyond behavior change
62:40 – Walking more and “childism”
1:07:56 – End of recording
Links and contact information:
- Victoria Kress:
- Email: victoriaekress@gmail.com
- Rachel O’Neill:
- LinkedIn: Rachel O’Neill
- Threads: Rachel O’Neill
- Reference to article on MI for NSSI:
- Kress, V.E., & Hoffman, R.M. (2008). Non-suicidal self-injury and motivational interviewing: Enhancing readiness for change. Journal of Mental Health Counseling, 30, 311-329.
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MI and Harm Reduction
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Kasey Claborn to the podcast to discuss her work on MI and harm reduction. Dr. Claborn is a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor of Social Work and Psychiatry at The University of Texas at Austin. She is the Steve Hicks Fellow of Addiction and Recovery Services and Director for the Addictions Research Institute. Dr. Claborn is the Principal Investigator for several projects funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, and the Health Resources and Services Administration. To date, she has received over $14.3 million dollars in external funding for her research. Dr. Claborn’s research focuses on improving the addiction system of care through community based participatory research methods and system science. She has expertise in designing and building digital technologies to improve care coordination and community overdose prevention efforts. In 2021, Dr. Claborn received an international award from Google for her work in building innovative technologies for social impact. Dr. Claborn’s current work seeks to use innovative methods to combine traditional and non-traditional overdose surveillance methods to inform data-driven community response.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
06:30 – Kasey’s early MI story
09:30 – What is community outreach?
11:10 – Harm reduction: What is it and how has Kasey applied it?
22:30 – HR and abstinence as part of a continuum
31:00 – Training HR workers in MI
35:15 – HR and peer support
37:30 – Barriers to HR and ways to overcome
49:00 – Adaptation of MI for HR
61:00 – Political aspects of HR
70:06 – End of episode
Contact information:
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Email – kasey.claborn@austin.utexas.edu
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Executive Functioning & MIIn this episode Glenn and Sebastian discuss executive functioning and MI with Tamara Hamilton, LCSW, CMBT. Tamara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with more than thirty years of experience in behavioral health. For the past ten years, she has been at Cliff Valley School, a pre-K through 8 progressive independent school in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, where she serves on the administration team as school counselor and director of the Cliff Valley Institute. She has focused on issues impacting the well-being of children with a particular emphasis on integrating social/emotional learning into academic curricula. Tamara earned her Master’s Degree from the Indiana University School of Social Work, and she holds a graduate certificate in Mind, Brain, and Teaching from the School of Education at Johns Hopkins University. Tamara is a frequent consultant and invited speaker regarding various topics related to child development. Her presentation style is informative, warm, and relatable as she combines her training in neuro-learning, clinical professional experience, and personal stories as a mother of three.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:10 – Tamara’s early MI story
08:25 – What are Executive Functions (EF)?
14:20 – “Learning is changing”
20:40 – Tamara’s journey as a mother of a child with autism
28:00 – “Setting the emotional climate” when working with children and families
30:30 – Applying MI to EF coaching
41:30 – Parallels when working with parents
46:00 – EF skills in context
50:00 – From labels to “What do you need?”
57:15 – Preparing for this summer’s Cliff Valley Institute
60:25 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: thamilton@cliffvalley.org
Website: https://www.cliffvalleyinstitute.org/
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MI within the social context
Glenn and Seb were delighted to have Dr. Paul Earnshaw on the podcast to discuss MI within the social context. Paul is an independent Researcher, Senior Psychological Therapist and Motivational interviewing trainer. He is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). He has over 18 years of experience in training multi-disciplinary health and social care staff in the UK and internationally in Motivational Interviewing, across a range of mental and physical health services. Paul has extensive clinical and research experience in a range of NHS Mental Health Services. His research Interests and writing include, the integration of MI and CBT (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2019), MI Theory (Earnshaw, 2021), COVID-19 (in press), MI Implementation in Organisations (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2022).
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
05:22 – Paul’s early MI story
07:45 – Integration of MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)
22:40 – The therapeutic relationship
29:00 – Widening the lens beyond a “problem behavior”
38:00 – Creating safety through social empathy
52:40 – Influences on Paul’s early thinking
60:00 – Paul’s many interests including MI/CBT integration and contact tracing
66:38 – End of episode
Contact information:
Email: pgearnshaw@gmail.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Neurodiversity & MI
Glenn and Seb were honoured to have Deb Solomon on the podcast to discuss neurodiversity. Deb is a social worker in Adult Care, and a Practice Development Lead. Following a surprise diagnosis of ADHD in 2020 she went on to set up and chair the first UK group for neurodivergent social workers through the British Association Of Social Workers (BASW) after recognising the lack of knowledge and support in the profession. Deb is also the Vice Chair of BASW Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group and has recently set up the Neurodiversity Network for her local authority. Deb presents workshops on neurodiversity, executive functioning and is passionate about ensuring anyone who thinks differently is safe to be their whole selves, celebrating strengths as well as promoting acceptance for all neurotypes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
07:25 – Deb’s introduction and early story
10:08 – Gender differences in ADHD
14:26 – What changed for Deb after receiving the ADHD diagnosis
20:30 – What an MI practitioner should know when working with clients who are neurodiverse
34:10 – Deb’s emotional and cognitive experiences as someone with ADHD
40:40 – Ambivalence and the executive functions
56:25 – “I have to get it (a thought) out”
1:02:16 – What’s helped Deb that might help others
1:06:25 – Media attention towards neurodiversity
1:11:55 – End of episode
Contact information:
Twitter: @ND_SWgroup
Email: deb.solomon@basw.co.uk
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI
Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcomed Steven Malcolm Berg-Smith to the podcast for a discussion on the use of Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI. For over 30 years, Steve has worked as a behavior change counselor, health educator, drug & alcohol prevention specialist, and researcher. He currently has a private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area as a certified motivational interviewing (MI) trainer, consultant, coach & mentor.
A member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1994, Steve has conducted over 1200 MI workshops and presentations throughout the US and internationally. He has served as a “trainer of trainers” for MINT and collaborated in the design of MI-inspired behavior change intervention protocols for numerous national clinical research trials. He has authored a manual on the “The Art of Teaching Motivational Interviewing,” along with several frequently cited articles on how to use motivation-enhancing tools and strategies to support adolescents and adults in making positive lifestyle changes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:18 – Steve’s early MI story: From interrogating to evoking
14:55 – Steve meets Bill Miller in a role play
27:00 – Steve’s wife encourages him to tell stories
35:30 – The use of cliffhangers in training
46:00 – How to work with someone who is in “pre-contemplation”
54:20 – Can ambivalence be resolved: “The chick that chews”
67:45 – Looking towards retirement
70:32 – End of episode
Contact information:
Website: www.berg-smithtraining.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Common Questions about MI
Glenn and Sebastian were excited to welcome David B. Rosengren, Ph.D., for a return appearance to answer some common questions we receive in trainings. David is president & CEO of Prevention Research Institute (PRI), member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), International Positive Psychology Association (IPPA), and Society for Implementation Research Collaboration (SIRC), as well as a Certified MINT Trainer.
David, is a clinical psychologist with a background in treatment, research, training, and administration. Previously, he was a research scientist and consultant at the University of Washington’s Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute, practicing psychologist in a variety of clinical settings, and Motivational Interviewing (MI) consultant and trainer. David completed the initial training for new trainers course offered by Miller and Rollnick in 1993 and was a founding member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers. In addition to Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook, he has written journal articles and book chapters on addictions, MI, the change process, treatment and prevention. His most recent focus is on the role positive psychology can play in building resilience, as well as enhancing intervention and treatment effects, cognitive processes in learning, use of technology in training, and building, maintaining, and refining practitioner skills. His current research focus is implementation science in the integration of evidence-based practices across systems.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction
03:20 – Welcoming David back to the podcast: What’s David been up to?
06:35 – Question 1: Why does listening help?
14:40 – Question 2: How young can a client be to benefit from MI?
23:35 – Question 3: How is what you (therapist) do different than what anyone else (different therapist, friend/mate) does?
28:25 – Question 4: Should MI practitioners work to be powerful influencers of behavior?
35:30 – Question 5: My clients are more difficult than yours. How would MI work with them?
45:47 – Question 6: What if people think you are not being genuine with affirmations? How do you stop them from feeling patronized?
51:40 – Question 7: How are affirmations and compliments different?
58:20 – Question 8: What’s the best way to learn MI?
1:07:45 – Question 9: How am I supposed to do MI when I don’t have enough time?
1:18:25 – David looking forward to being a grandfather!
1:20:56 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Email: David.rosengren@primeforlife.org
Website: www.primeforlife.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rosengren-pri/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
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Therapeutic Humor – Part II
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, CHP and Lodge McCammon, PhD on the podcast to discuss therapeutic humor (Listen to episode 21 with Mallori for part I on this topic). Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, an internationally certified prevention specialist, motivational interviewing trainer and a certified humor professional. As a speaker and trainer, she has sparked curiosity in both the young and young-at-heart. Her passion for creating a lasting impact led her to the public health field and for the past 15 years she has worked at Prevention Insights, a center within the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington. Mallori works with people all over the world. She served on the Board of Directors for the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor and in 2021 became a TEDx speaker. Her credentials don’t impress her family, but occasionally her corny jokes do make them laugh.
Dr. Lodge McCammon is a therapeutic humorist, instructional designer, author, musician, and international education consultant who provides professional services, including keynote speeches, workshops, curriculum development, and a variety of training programs. He works with school districts, universities, nonprofits, and businesses (e.g., Palm Beach Schools, University of the West Indies, Discovery Education, Microsoft, Amazon, The Coca-Cola Company). Most recently, Lodge facilitated a month of therapeutic humor for the Nourished Teachers Community, which is a Facebook-funded initiative focused on helping educators cope with work stress and avoid burnout. He uses a program that he designed called “Laugh It Off!” to help his clients transform their daily frustrations into humor.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
03:39 – Lodge’s introduction and how he and Mallori came to work together
09:00 – Evoking with humor
13:00 – What is humor?
17:00 – An invitation to see a situation in a new way
26:00 – Absurdity training
28:10 – Renaming exercise
34:45 – Finding the absurd from an expected response
40:52 – “I am now ___ years old”
48:25 – The portability of therapeutic humor
54:40 – How to introduce a humorous intervention with permission
1:01:10 – Future trainings and applying therapeutic humor with couples
1:05:20 – Seb’s story applying therapeutic humor in group therapy with adolescents
1:11.21 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Mallori
Website: www.malloridesalle.com
Email: malloridesalle@gmail.com
Lodge
Website: www.lodgemccammon.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
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Transtheoretical Model Cycle of Change & MI Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Mary Marden Velasquez, PhD, on the podcast to discuss the Transtheoretical Model, including the Stages of …
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Motivational Interviewing & Grief Dr. M. Katherine Shear is the Marion E. Kenworthy Professor of Psychiatry and the founding Director of the Center for Prolonged Grief at Columbia University School …
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Training MI Across Cultures Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Rik Bes on the podcast to discuss his work training MI across cultures. Rik has a background in social work and criminal …
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Lessons from the Lab: The Gifts of MI Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Molly Magill for another edition of Lessons from the Lab, where she discusses her research and what …
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MI and the Māori Culture Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tipene Pickett on to discuss the Māori Culture from New Zealand and its relationship in the practice and teaching of Motivational …
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Motivational Interviewing & Discord Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen R. Andrew LCSW, LADC, CCS to the podcast to discuss discord and many other topics. Stephen is a storyteller, trainer, therapist, …
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Motivational Interviewing in Psychiatry Glenn and Sebastian discuss Motivational Interviewing in Psychiatry with Antoine Douaihy, M.D. Antoine is a Professor of Psychiatry & Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh School …
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Motivational Interviewing and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) Glenn & Sebastian explore Motivational Interviewing and Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT) with Robyn D. Walser, Ph.D. Robyn is the Director of …
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MI in Peer Support Recovery Services We are happy to have had John Burns on to discuss MI in peer support recovery services. John is a person in long term …
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Motivational Interviewing for Working with Children & Families In this episode exploring Motivational Interviewing in Work with Children & Families, Glenn and Sebastian meet Donald Forrester, Professor of Child and …
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MI in Primary Care – Part 2 Glenn and Seb welcomed Mats Hogmark to discuss MI in Primary Care. Mats is a 47 year old Swedish physician who specializes in …
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Episode 51 – Lessons from the lab: The dynamics of change talk and technological advances in We were pleased to welcome April Carcone to discuss her research on the dynamics …
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MI for Survivors of Violence Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Dr. Kate Watson to discuss the application of MI when working with survivors of violence. Dr. Watson is a …
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Physio-Physical Therapy Glenn and Seb welcomed Maddy Nicholson to the podcast to discuss MI in physio-physical therapy for chronic pain. Maddy has been a registered physiotherapist for 15 years, specialising …
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MI in schools Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Andrew Williams, NPQH to the podcast for a fascinating and timely discussion on MI in schools. Andy has taught for 28 years, the …
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MI in Diabetes Care Glenn and Sebastian were happy to have Judith Carpenter on the podcast. To discuss MI in diabetes care. Judith has been an MI trainer for over …
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Reducing Burnout and Compassion Fatigue Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Kristin Dempsey and Ali Hall to the podcast to discuss reducing burnout and compassion fatigue Kristin Dempsey, EdD is a psychotherapist, …
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Effective Psychotherapists with Bill Miller & Terri Moyers Glenn and Sebastian were honored to have Drs. William R. Miller and Theresa B. Moyers, authors of “Effective Psychotherapists”, on Talking to …
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Opiate In part two of a pair of episodes on MI for opiate and stimulant use disorders, Glenn and Sebastian happily welcomed Paul Delaney to the podcast. Paul is a …
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Episode 43 – MI in Weight Management Services Glenn and Sebastian are delighted explore MI in weight management services by welcoming Claire Lane onto the podcast. Claire is a clinical …
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Episode 42 – MI for people with opioid use disorder and stimulant use disorder In this episode exploring MI for people with Opioid Use and Stimulant Use Disorders, Glenn and …
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Episode 41: Ethical Considerations in MI In episode 41 of TTC Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore Ethical Considerations in MI with Patrick Berthiaume. Patrick studied sexology to begin his professional …
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Episode 40 – MI for youth with HIV Glenn and Sebastian were thrilled to welcome good friend Salome Nicole Cockern, PhD (Nikki) to the podcast. Nikki is a Paediatric Psychologist …
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Ep 39 – MI with people who are homeless In exploring MI with people who are homeless, Glenn and Sebastian, warmly welcome Danny Lang, MSW to the podcast. Danny has …
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Ep 38 – MI for vaccine hesitancy Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Amanda Gabarda, EdD, MPH, NBC-HWC for a timely discussion about vaccine hesitancy. Amanda is the Senior Director of Clinical …
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Episode 37 – MI in Puerto Rico Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcome Gabrielle Ruiz Tudó to the program. Gabrielle is a Puerto Rican, currently living in Puerto Rico. She is …
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Psycholinguistics Glenn and Sebastian were excited about having Paul Amrhein on the podcast given his historical importance to the development of MI. Paul is presently on the faculties of Montclair …
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In Episode 35 ‘Experiential Motivational Interviewing’ we talk with Matt McKenzie who is a licensed professional counselor in the state of Alabama, USA, member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of …
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Ep. 34 – MI from an Evolutionary Perspective Dr Abilio (Bill) de Almeida Neto joined Glenn and Sebastian for this unique conversation about possible underlying evolutionary mechanisms of MI. Bill …
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Episode 33 – MI in Dietetics In this episode of the podcast, Glenn and Sebastian explore MI in Dietetics with Orla Adams. Orla is a dietitian specialising in weight management. …
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MI in South Africa Ep 32 – MI in South Africa We are happy to share this next episode of TTC in which Dr. Goodman Sibeko joined us to discuss …
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We were excited to explore the use of MI in Borderline Personality Disorder interventions with Florence Chanut, MD,FRCPC (Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Canada). Florence is an …
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For this episode, where we explore the integration of MI in Social Work practice, we welcomed Melinda (Mindy) Hohman, PhD, MSW, to the podcast. Mindy is Professor and Director Emeritus …
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We were thrilled to have Peter Rives on the podcast to discuss MI and his work with college and university students. Peter Rives holds a bachelor’s degree in psychology from …
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For our next episode of Talking to Change, we go Beyond MI to explore how someone not directly in the MI world helps guide people through change. Michael Arterberry is …
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Telehealth & MI For this episode we warmly welcomed Jordan Braciszewski, PHD, to the podcast. Jordan is a Research Scientist in the Center for Health Policy and Health Services Research …
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Ep. 26 – Self-Determination Theory & MI We were thrilled to welcome Richard M. Ryan, Ph.D. onto the podcast for this exploration of Self-Determination Theory and its natural links with …
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Ep. 25 – Physical Self-Care & Motivational Interviewing Glenn and Sebastian are excited to welcome Dr. Katie Brogan Hartlieb, PhD, RDN, (Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan) on the program to …
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Ep 24 – MI for Suicide Prevention For this episode of Talking to Change, ‘MI for Suicide Prevention‘, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Emma Braconier to the podcast. Emma is a …
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Ep 23 – Public Health Interventions & MI Given the challenging times to public health due to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are grateful to have Jane Groves on the podcast. …
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Ep 22 – MI in Emergency Settings We are pleased to welcome Ravi Maharajh, MA, EdS, LPC, ACS, for our next episode of Talking to Change, exploring MI in Emergency Settings. …
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Ep 21 MI & Therapeutic Humour Next up we welcome Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, to discuss a topic not often viewed in conjunction with the application …
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Ep 20 MI when working with people with psychosis We hope you enjoy our latest episode where we welcome Dr. Rory Allott to the program to explore using MI when …
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Ep 19 The role of feedback in Motivational Interviewing We are excited to welcome Denise Walker to the podcast as she explores the use of feedback in Motivational Interviewing. Denise …
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Ep 18 Motivational Interviewing with people who have sexually abused Glenn and Sebastian welcome David Prescott to the podcast. David is the Clinical Services Development Director for the Becket Family of …
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Ep 17 Motivational Interviewing for Multimorbidity Glenn and Sebastian are happy to share our latest podcast with our guest, Kylie McKenzie, MAPS, FCCLP. Kylie is based outside of Melbourne Australia …
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Ep 16 MI in Leadership and Organisations (MILO) Glenn and Sebastian are very excited to have Fredrik Eliasson on our podcast. Fredrik is a social worker with more than 20 …
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Dr. Damara Gutnick, MD joins Glenn and Sebastian on this episode to talk about Motivational Interviewing in Health Care. Damara is the medical director of the Montefiore Hudson Valley Collaborative …
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We hope you enjoy our conversation with Dr. Jeff Breckon, Head of Research in the Academy of Sport and Physical Activity at Sheffield Hallam University. Jeff is a Chartered Sport …
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cbt Glenn and Sebastian are excited to have Dr. Sylvie Naar on the podcast. Sylvie is a Distinguished Endowed Professor in the College of Medicine’s department of Behavioural Sciences and …
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Glenn and Sebastian welcome Dr. Allan Zuckoff to the podcast. Allan is Vice President for Clinical Program Development at Vital Decisions, a company that provides MI-based telephonic advance care planning …
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In this episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, we had the pleasure of sitting down with David Rosengren, PhD, President and CEO of the Prevention Research Institute …
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In the latest instalment of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, we were joined by Tim Apodaca, licensed psychologist and associate professor of paediatrics at the University of Missouri-Kansas …
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In this episode we welcome Majella Greene, a registered social worker with master’s degrees in applied positive psychology and social work policy and research. Majella, who hails from London, UK, …
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In episode eight we talk with Dee-Dee Stout, clinician, trainer, and author on the intersection between Motivational Interviewing (MI) and Trauma Informed Practice (TIP). Dee-Dee discusses how not focusing on …
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In episode seven the co-founder of Motivational Interviewing Steve Rollnick describes the development and future directions of MI and explores his journey, with Bill Miller, of translating MI from a …
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In the sixth episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Theresa Moyers, PhD, associate professor of psychology at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA. Terri shares her ideas on the importance of change talk within MI based on her extensive experiences as a clinician and researcher on the treatment of addictive behaviours. The following is an indexed list of topics that Glenn, Sebastian, and Terri discuss:
0:00 – Opening/introduction
2:00 – What is change talk and why does it matter?
14:30 – Desire change talk
16:30 – Sustain talk
19:00 – Other elements of change talk
23:30 – Is change talk all about behaviour?
27:00 – Change talk: Smoke or fire?
34:00 – Talking one’s self into change
37:00 – The clinician as influencer: “The waitress test”
45:00 – Client language within an empathic relationship
55:00 – Learning MI
59:00 – What’s on your mind lately? Dog training
1:06:00 – Closing
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In the fifth episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Chris Wagner, PhD, associate professor, department vice-chair, and licensed clinical psychologist in the department of rehabilitation counseling at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia, USA. Chris shares his insights into the work of Carl Rogers and how his theories and method of client-centered counseling helped shape the practice of MI. The following is an indexed list of topics that Glenn, Sebastian, and Chris discuss:
Minute - topic
0 - Opening/introduction
8 - Rogers’ radical departure from the expert model of helping
14 - Spirit of person-centered interactions
19 - Rogers’ 6 core conditions
28 - "Inside the bubble" - Incongruence and acceptance
36 - Rogers’ core conditions - necessary & sufficient, but efficient?
41 - Growth perspective
49 - Emotional emancipation
56 - Positive discrepancy
1:00 - Wrap up: MI in groups; Proactive orientation; Beyond discrete behavior change
1:10 - What’s on your mind lately? MI in Dentistry, updating MI groups model, Organic MI training
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In the fourth episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian welcome Stan Steindl, PhD. Stan discusses the bidirectional relationship between compassion and MI. Specifically how compassion is a key element of the MI spirit and how MI style conversations can help guide someone towards a more compassionate view of themselves or others, which can also help bring about a host of benefits to one’s health
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In Episode 3 Glenn and Sebastian focus on the The Four Processes of Engage, Evoke, Focus and Plan. Sebastian then demonstrates Motivational Interviewing with a 'reluctant' patient who has been referred by his primary care physician (GP) for smoking cessation counselling.
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Glenn and Sebastian return for the second episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast. Here they focus on the core skills of Motivational Interviewing (MI), often presented as the acronym OARS. The core skills are Open-Ended Questions, Affirmations, Reflections, and Summaries.
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In the first episode of Talking to Change: A Motivational Interviewing Podcast, Glenn and Sebastian introduce themselves and discuss their hopes for the podcast. They also provide an overview of the Motivational Interviewing (MI) Spirit, which consists of four guiding elements that all MI practitioners strive to uphold when engaging in MI conversations with clients: Partnership, Acceptance, Compassion, and Evocation.
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