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Barry and Abigail and special guests Matty and Maddie Carlson discuss Manzanita by Shana Cleveland and sample La Playita and El Farito from The Tank Brewing Co. in Miami, Florida.

With this appearance, Matt, who literally just founded our five-timers’ club, is the inaugural member of our six-timers’ club. Barry called him the Larry "Bud" Melman of Pops on Hops.

This episode came out of Matt’s interview of Maddie on her favorite albums of 2023. He also interviewed fellow Substacker Kevin Alexander on the same topic.

Shana Cleveland is also in the surf rock band La Luz, who just released a new album! Watch Shana’s live performance in the KEXP studio.

Matt educated us on the Mellotron!

Abigail and Barry both entered Light on the Water into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music: Abigail with a comparison to Baby Genius by Eels, and Barry with a comparison to Rain by Hans Zimmer.

Abigail shouted out Hoplark, which brews nonalcoholic hop teas!

Maddie used Gold Tower to talk about her interest in tarot. Read more about the tower card!

Matt compared Ten Hour Drive Through West Coast Disaster to 9th & Hennepin by Tom Waits.

Though we didn’t discuss it in this recording, Matt is one of the most prolific men we know. He is a member of Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds, and The Pantones, in addition to touring as a solo act. In fact, Matty is probably coming to a city near you! Check out his tour dates! Abigail helped to host one of his house shows last summer, and it was an incredible evening. Matt also posts daily on his Substack, What Am I Making, which also has a podcast component that we have appeared on!

Up next… Drag by k.d. lang

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Barry and Abigail discuss Tigerlily by Natalie Merchant and sample Dead Parrot, Passion of the Heights, and Luminescence Hazy IPA from Florida Avenue Brewing Co. in Wesley Chapel, Florida.

Modelo is now the top-selling U.S. beer! Read more.

Barry has seen Natalie Merchant in concert twice, most recently in 2023. Check out the setlist from the 2023 show!

Abigail compared Wonder thematically to The Boy in the Bubble by Paul Simon. Barry was reminded of the story of The Elephant Man.

I May Know the Word was written for the film Philadelphia but did not make the soundtrack.

Cowboy Romance reminded Abigail of Price to Pay by Blues Traveler and Barry of The Fourth Drink Instinct by Cute Is What We Aim For.

Abigail described Jealousy as “You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette without the problematic behavior.”

Up next… Manzanita by Shana Cleveland, featuring Matt and Maddie Carlson! Check out Matt’s podcast episode that inspired this choice.

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Barry and Abigail discuss A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco and sample Studio 54 Blues Blueberry NEIPA, Disco Sally’s Cookies, and Night Fever Porter from Disco Witch Brewing in Yulee, Florida.

Barry heavily compared this album (for better or for worse) to The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For, which we discussed in Yeast is What They Brew With (Cute is What We Aim For and Yeasty Brews Artisanal Beers).

We contrasted the Disco Witch’s succinct beer descriptions with the lengthy ones of Burial and Petty Thieves.

Camisado is the name of a military technique: a surprise attack occurring at night, or at daybreak, when the enemy is supposed to be asleep. Read more!

Barry entered the final note of Intermission into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison not to The Green Bee, nor to Flight of the Bumblebee, but to A Day In the Life by The Beatles.

Barry gave Abigail a quick lesson on the baroque period.

We learned all about Candi Syrup, Inc.!

Barry compared But It’s Better If You Do thematically to Risque by Cute Is What We Aim For.

Although our previous Beatles reference is not from The White Album, Abigail did organically bring up Savoy Truffle (it has been zero episodes since our last White Album reference!).

Barry compared There’s a Good Reason These Tables Are Numbered Honey, You Just Haven’t Thought of It Yet to this scene from Young Frankenstein. Also, The lacing of the smokes reminded Barry of the spiking of the eggnog (and the vocalization and the harmonies!) in Who Spiked the Eggnog? by Straight No Chaser.

Barry’s second entry into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music was to compare Build God, Then We’ll Talk to My Favorite Things from The Sound of Music.

Up next… Tigerlily by Natalie Merchant

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Lory Willard (who previously joined us for POH [Rainbow Kitten Surprise and Appalachian Beer Tour]) sample Moscow mule cocktails made with Original, Hibiscus Lavender, and Cranberry Herb from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina.

We have previously sampled several Ginger’s Revenge offerings in their pure forms on FrancePants (MuteMath and Ginger's Revenge), POH (Rainbow Kitten Surprise and Appalachian Beer Tour), and Malty Little Beers (Alanis Morissette and Leftover Beers).

Barry picked up his habit of eating an apple “from top to bottom” from the semi-autobiographical novel Cheaper by the Dozen by Frank Bunker Gilbreth Jr. and Ernestine Gilbreth Carey.

We took an opportunity to plug Dry Wrought Cider in Gainesville, Florida!

We also plugged the NC Pickle Festival in Mount Olive, North Carolina.

Lory is a fan of U Talkin’ U2 To Me?, the show that inspired us to start a podcast! We dove into an episode of “I Love Films” to discuss Lory’s dad appearing as an extra in The Lesser Evil, an early film in the Adam Scott canon.

Lory plugged Botanist and Barrel Cidery and Winery in Cedar Grove, North Carolina, which brews their ciders with foraged fruits.

Up next… A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco

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In this BFE (beer-free episode), Barry, Abigail, and special guest Ian Rees (previously interviewed on Bonus: Friendship Induced Pod) discuss Ian’s Virtual Jukebox submission, Diorama by Silverchair.

Barry continually references Silverchair’s debut album Frogstomp (not also known as Frogstamp).

Abigail and Barry both compared the oeuvre of this album to that of Astoria by Marianas Trench, discussed on Cascadia (Marianas Trench and Cascade Brewing), and Electro-Shock Blues by Eels, discussed on Owlectro-Shock Brews [Eels and Dangerous Minds Brewing Co.).

Silverchair worked with composer Van Dyke Parks on this album. In a twist we could not have predicted, we discovered some relevant information about Parks after recording that did not come up in our conversation. Per Wikipedia, Parks wrote “‘City of Lights,’ ‘It's a “B” Movie,’ ‘Cutting Edge,’ and ‘Worthless,’ all of which were used in the film The Brave Little Toaster, directed by Jerry Rees.[citation needed].” Well, we’ll be the confirmatory citation - Jerry Rees is Ian’s dad! However, during the episode, we did discuss Parks’ work with The Beach Boys on their unfinished album Smile and his musically eclectic album Song Cycle.

Did you catch Barry’s weekly Coriolis force joke?

Barry compared the guitar sound in Angie by The Rolling Stones to that in World Upon Your Shoulders.

Abigail pointed out that had this not been a BFE, Green Bench would have been the perfect brewery to pair with Silverchair.

We discussed the trend of including a hidden track after a long silence on a CD (in reference to “Outro,” the hidden track after After All These Years). We referenced I Have Seen the Rain (feat. James T. Moore) by P!nk, Her Majesty by The Beatles, and Mercy, Sweet Moan by The Black Crowes as comparative examples. Reddit has also discussed this issue at length. Wikipedia maintains a list of albums containing a hidden track. After minimal research, we believe the mysterious album Ian referenced with multiple silent tracks was Sleepify by Vulfpeck.

We once again plugged Matty C’s multimedia project What Am I Making.

We closed by playing Ian’s new single, Say Goodbye. Watch the trippy music video! Say Goodbye is available for purchase on iTunes and Amazon.

Ian has an abundance of music available on Spotify and YouTube. We especially recommend Panic Induced Love (the album we reviewed on Bonus: Friendship Induced Pod), his Building A Song Series, and his Bo Burnham-inspired video “Why Do I Eat So Much Cheese?”.

Up next… A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by Panic! At the Disco

Ian also randomly selected our next Jukebox episode, Professional Rapper by Lil Dicky, submitted by Dinos Korominas. This episode is scheduled to drop on July 12, 2024.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Twilight Time by Bennie Wallace and sample Time Stands Still, Twinger, Mangoes At Work, and They Call Me Baltastic from Hiatus Brewing Company in Ocala, Florida.

Barry has a personal connection to Bennie Wallace through his friend “Uncle” Steve Moore, whose Oscar-nominated animated short “Redux Riding Hood” features a score written by Bennie. Watch "Redux Riding Hood" or read Uncle Steve’s blog post about its production!

Many thanks to Lucas Frank, owner and brewer of Hiatus Brewing Company, for sitting down with us to talk about the history and the branding of the brewery!

Barry shared his other Los Angeles jazz experiences at Chadney’s, across the street from the NBC Studios. One memorable performance was by trombone player Matt Finders, who was part of Tonight Show with Jay Leno Band led by Kevin Eubanks.

Check out Barry’s playlist of the songs that were covered by Bennie Wallace on this album!

Abigail could not help but hear Silver Bells in The Tennessee Waltz.

Abigail and Barry compared Willie Mae to Linus and Lucy by Vince Guaraldi Trio, from the soundtrack to “A Charlie Brown Christmas.”

Up next… Diorama by Silverchair, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Ian Rees

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Nick Martino discuss Nick’s work with New York Funk Exchange and sample Exclamative Sour Series - Peachicot KISS! KISS! and Atomic Duck from Able Baker Brewing in Las Vegas, Nevada.

We were delighted to share the stage in Henderson, Nevada, with live recordings of six other podcasts: What Am I Making, Matt and Mattingly’s Ice Cream Social, Making Podcasts Great Again (on which Abigail appeared briefly; full episode on Patreon), Parenting is a Joke (on which Barry and Abigail were interviewed together, but the live episode has not yet been released), New Music for Olds (typically a written medium), and The Muckrake Political Podcast (full episode on Patreon).

Nick Martino previously appeared on Bonus: A Christmas Day's Eve! Original Songs by Our Friends from 2022 with his jazzy version of “The Christmas Song” featuring his wife Connie on vocals and his daughter Daphne on tambourine.

Our guest bartender was Matt Carlson of the What Am I Making multimedia empire. With this appearance, Matt is now the first member of our five-timers club!

Other members of New York Funk Exchange we specifically called out were vocalist Serena Fortier and rapper Cidida (who only appears on the hidden reprise of Without You after The Bailout Pt. 3 on the digital version of the album).

Tremendous thank you to Pete Dominick of the Stand Up! with Pete Dominick podcast for organizing the event, for inviting us to record live, and ultimately for creating the community that has supported our podcast so much over the years. Thank you also to Cassie and Mike Rice of Gymcats for their on-the-ground work to make the event come together.

Up next… Twilight Time by Bennie Wallace

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Barry, Abigail, and surprise special guest Becky Richey discuss On My Own Two Feet by Granian and sample The One They Call Zoe and A Pale Mosaic from Hops & Grain Brewing (brewed by Austin Beerworks) in Austin, Texas.Hops & Grain no longer has a taproom in Austin, but the two beers we sampled continue to be brewed by Austin Beerworks and are available at certain venues around Austin!Garen Gueyikian (the songwriter, lyricist, vocalist, and primarily instrumentalist behind Granian) co-wrote BOOM BOOM with Teddi Gold, which has been used in multiple commercials, including in an Old Navy commercial from spring 2021.Garen later formed Kill the Alarm. We played Kill the Alarm’s versions of Uncovered and Collide (compare to Granian’s versions of Uncovered and Collide).Abigail entered On My Own into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Survivor by Destiny’s Child (secondarily, I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor).Becky posed the question of our favorite song that employs the radio static effect. Barry entered Honey Pie by The Beatles (we have officially gone zero episodes without mentioning the White Album!).Becky compared her love of Uncovered to her love of On the Way Down by Ryan Cabrera.Becky shared this video of Garen performing My Voice and breaking his guitar.Up next… Twilight Time by Bennie WallaceJingles are by our friend Pete Coe.Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify!Facebook | Instagram | X | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pops-on-hops-podcast/message

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Barry and Abigail discuss Un-Led-Ed by Dread Zeppelin and sample Pink Crescendo, a lemonade cocktail made with Sunblush, and a hot mulled wine made with Southern Red from Lakeridge Winery & Vineyards in Clermont, Florida.

Listen to Barry’s playlist of all of the songs that were covered, mashed up, or referenced on this album.

Abigail compared the opening of Black Mountain Side to the opening of Piper by Phish.

Listen to What Am I Making Radio #014 - Cover Me, part of Matt Carlson’s What Am I Making project. Matty C is currently a member of the four-timers’ club with Pops on Hops!

Up next… On My Own Two Feet by Granian

Jingles (and the "Dorks on Corks" theme song) are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Electro-Shock Blues by Eels and sample Water of Youth, Waldmeister, and Cherry Amaretto Sour from Dangerous Minds Brewing Company in Pompano Beach, Florida.

The first Eels song that Barry ever heard was Novocaine for the Soul.

Abigail shared a TikTok that she thought of when she heard 3 Speed.

Abigail entered Efils’ God into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to a meme song originally shared on R U Talkin’ R.E.M. RE: ME, How Does It Feel (When You're In REM (Good)) by Trouble’s Afoot. Check out all mentions of the bit on RUTREMRM!

Up next… On My Own Two Feet by Granian

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Barry and Abigail discuss The Same Old Blood Rush With a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For and sample Kitty Kibble, Sweet Sinsations, Kiss of Death, and Class And Sophistication Orange Cremsicle IPA from Yeasty Brews Artisanal Beers in Lauderhill, Florida.

Special thanks to Dan Martinelli, Co-Owner of Yeasty Brews, for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery! Dan previously served as Assistant Brewer for Fat Point Brewing in Punta Gorda, Florida (now located in Sarasota, Florida); Director of Brewing for LauderAle Brewery in Fort Lauderdale, Florida; and Lead Brewer for Fort Myers Brewing Company in Fort Myers, Florida.

Abigail’s voice recently appeared on the local NPR affiliate in Gainesville, Florida, WUFT, as a voice actor in Alena Poulin’s podcast Storm Memory! Abigail appears in Episode 1 - Atsena Otie’s Ancient Past. Alena has previously been name-dropped in (and was largely responsible for) both The Fizzy Hops (The Happy Fits & Tuckahoe Brewing Company) and Cascadia (Marianas Trench and Cascade Brewing).

Up next… Electro-Shock Blues by Eels

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Barry had the opportunity to spend some time with the man who introduced him to podcasting, comedian Pete Dominick.

For a dozen years, Pete hosted a fabulous public affairs show on Sirius XM Radio. His unique and humorous perspective on current events coupled with his great long-form interviews made this Barry's primary source of news for many years.

In October 2019, Sirius XM made the awful decision not to renew his contract, due in large part to his resistance to the rehiring of Steve Bannon as a Sirius XM host.

With nowhere else to turn, Pete started his own daily podcast, relying on subscribers as his sole source of income. Shortly afterwards, the COVID-19 pandemic afforded Pete the opportunity to create a weekly social hangout for subscribers. This quickly became an important means of connection for people isolated during the pandemic. This community quickly became a new group of virtual friends from all across the country. As the world has reopened from the pandemic, many of those newfound friends have met in person.

Our podcast has benefited greatly from this community. We have had a number of guests from among the many musicians in this community, and you can spend some time with our new friends, including Jon Carroll, Matt Carlson, and Nick Martino in these episodes:

Bonus: A Christmas Day's Eve! Original Songs by Our Friends

Bonus: Today (with Jon Carroll)

Bonus: R(ank).E.M. Again, Matt Carlson!

Bonus: Friends Are Inclusive (Harborcoat & Bell's Brewery)

Bonus: Greet the Hummels! Original Songs by Friends of the Pod!

Here are a few of our favorite recent episodes of Stand Up With Pete Dominick:

SUPD 998 David Rothkopf on College Presidents and Anti Semitism and why its complicated

SUPD 991 Former Republican, Editor in Chief MeidasTouch.com , Ron Filipowski

SUPD 968 "The Ladies of THE HUE"

Up next… The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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Barry and Abigail had the opportunity to sit down with Dave Zalatoris from the Beer In Front podcast! This episode originally dropped on July 31, 2023. We discussed the origin of the Pops on Hops Podcast, shared some of our favorite albums and episodes, and talked about the Florida beer scene. Most importantly, Barry used his "phone a friend" option to solicit an album from Dave, and he selected "11" by The Smithereens. That episode dropped on September 15, 2023, and you can listen to it here.

You can find Dave and Beer in Front on YouTube, Twitter, Threads, and Instagram.

If you want to try a few other Beer in Front episodes, here are a few of our favorites!

Fresh Air Friendship

How to Learn More About Beer!

Japanese Lagers

Up next… The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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We had the pleasure of joining our friend, and frequent guest, Matt Carlson on the podcast portion of his new project, ⁠What Am I Making⁠, back on March 27, 2023.

Matt is a talented musician and songwriter from East Lansing, Michigan, whom Barry met as part of an online community created by Pete Dominick, the host of the ⁠Stand Up With Pete Dominick⁠ podcast. During one of their weekly hangouts, Matt shared the name of his latest band, ⁠Harborcoat⁠. Barry caught the R.E.M. connection, which led to a ⁠Pops on Hops episode⁠ to discuss the album ⁠Joy is Elusive⁠. The outtakes alone from that conversation also led to a ⁠Pops on Hops bonus episode⁠ to discuss Matt's Top Five R.E.M. albums. Matt has also contributed songs to our Christmas bonus episodes in both ⁠2021⁠ and ⁠2022⁠.

So, obviously, when Matt asked Abigail and Barry to chat about the Pops on Hops podcast, they jumped at the chance! It is a fabulous discussion of the origin story of the Pops on Hops podcast!

If you want to check out other episodes of the What Am I Making podcast, here are a few of our favorites!

⁠WAIM #044 - Kevin Alexander's Ten Best Albums Of 2023⁠

⁠WAIM #031 - Matty C & Rockin' The Suburbs - Live at The Lost Rhino⁠

⁠What Am I Making #016 - Kevin and Scott Robertson of The Vapour Trails⁠

Up next… The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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Barry and Abigail discuss A Very Special Christmas 3 and sample The Stoutmare Before Christmas, The Abominable Snow Stout, and How The Stout Stole Christmas! from Tarpon River Brewing in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Barry and Abigail both recommend If On a Winter’s Night by Sting.

We reviewed Natalie Merchant’s rendition of Children Go Where I Send Thee. Listen to the original recording of Go Where I Send Thee by The Golden Gate Quartet.

Barry played a sample of Eartha Kitt’s Santa Baby.

We reviewed Sheryl Crow’s version of Blue Christmas. Listen to the original recording of Blue Christmas by Doye O’Dell.

We played a sample of Nat King Cole’s The Christmas Song to compare it to the version by Hootie & The Blowfish.

We also played a sample of Engelbert Humperdinck’s Ave Maria to compare it to the version by Eleven and Chris Cornell.

We also played a sample of Elvis Presley’s Santa Claus Is Back in Town to compare it to the version by Jonny Lang.

Barry compared the lyrical content of Christmas Song by Tim Reynolds and Dave Matthews to Christmas Day by Squeeze.

Barry entered We Three Kings by Patti Smith into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Blue by R.E.M. (which features Patti Smith!).

If you are looking for more great holiday music, check out our Pops on Hops 2023 Christmas Playlist, featuring Christmas songs from many of the artists featured during our third season in 2023!

You can also check out the collection of the Hummel family’s favorite Christmas songs!

Up next… The Same Old Blood Rush with a New Touch by Cute Is What We Aim For. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Derek Hummel, Sr., (Abigail’s uncle and Barry’s brother) discuss Derek’s Jukebox submission, He’s the DJ, I’m the Rapper by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, and sample Main Character Energy, #Adulting, Challenge Accepted, and Purple Monkey Dishwasher from Evil Genius Beer Company in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

A Nightmare on My Street was originally supposed to be a collaboration with the studio that produced A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master. Read about the legal battle that ensued.

Hip Hop Dancer’s Theme samples Peter Piper by Run-D.M.C., which sampled Take Me to the Mardi Gras by Bob James. This TikTok makes the connection even more obvious!

Our next Jukebox episode will be Diorama by Silverchair, submitted by Ian Rees. This episode is scheduled to drop on May 3, 2024. Listen to our episode featuring Ian’s own music, Bonus: Friendship Induced Pod.

Up next… A Very Special Christmas 3

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Barry and Abigail discuss Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette and sample Fall Harvest from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina; Daftoberfest from Daft Cow Brewery in Alachua, Florida; Clash Of The Pumpkin from Glasstown Brewing Company in Millville, New Jersey; and A Pumpkin In Sheep's Clothing (2023) from Toll Road Brewing Company in Ocoee, Florida.

Listen to Alanis Morissette’s most recent album, the storm before the calm, from 2022. She will be touring throughout 2024 with Joan Jett and the Blackhearts and Morgan Wade.

Abigail only knew the TikTok parody lyrics to Hand in My Pocket before being assigned this album.

Watch the music videos for Ironic and Hand in My Pocket.

Up next… He’s the DJ, I’m the Rapper by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Derek Hummel, Sr.

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Barry and Abigail are joined by special guests “Uncle” Steve Moore and Jamie Queli, founder and CEO of Forgotten Boardwalk Brewing Company in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, to discuss Steve’s can design work for the brewery. We also sample The Cops Finally Busted Madame Marie, The Shucker, and Wednesday Is From Westfield.

Follow Steve on Instagram, or check out his blog, for more of his work!

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We realize the limitations of this particular episode in an audio medium! Each of the labels that we discussed can be found on our episode blog.

Forgotten Boardwalk occupies the space previously held by Flying Fish Brewing Co., now located in Somerdale, New Jersey.

The Cops Finally Busted Madame Marie is a reference to 4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy) by Bruce Springsteen.

The Shucker is a collaboration with Barnegat Oyster Collective in Barnegat Township, New Jersey.

Read more about the history of pinball becoming illegal in the United States.

Food Network named Wednesday Is From Westfield one of the top nine pumpkin beers of 2023!

Learn more about the FemAle Brew Fest in Fort Lauderdale, Florida!

Jamie’s business partner, Seth, successfully donated his kidney to his mother 17 years ago. Coincidentally, Steve animated a video to raise awareness about kidney donation, called Kidney Stuff with Neff and Nuff: Share Your Spare.

Up next… Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette

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Barry and Abigail discuss Astoria by Marianas Trench and sample Vernal Equinox, Rose City Sour, and Sang Rosé from Cascade Brewing in Beaverton, Oregon.

If you are interested in some of the backstories behind these songs, we recommend you read through the Genius entries for this album!

Josh Ramsay, the lead vocalist and songwriter of Marianas Trench, co-wrote and produced Call Me Maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen. This is referenced in the Marianas Trench song POP 101!

Abigail first heard this album while traveling back from The Mowgli’s concert in 2019. Listen to our episode on The Mowgli’s, Where'd Your Civility Go? (The Mowgli's & Civil Society Brewing).

Astoria (the song) reminded Abigail of both Jumpstarted by Jukebox the Ghost and Band on the Run by Paul McCartney and Wings.

Yesterday was written as a tribute to Footloose by Kenny Loggins

Abigail believes the percussion in This Means War sounds like I Just Can’t Wait to Be King from The Lion King soundtrack.

Up next… Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette

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Barry and Abigail discuss Screemers and sample Dead Guy Pilsner, Dead Guy Ale, Dead Guy Pale Ale, and Dead Guy IPA from Rogue Ales in Ashland, Oregon.

The interstitial Bob and Ray sketches on this album come from Bob and Ray Throw a Stereo Spectacular, an album intended to show off the wonders of stereo recording. Watch these two examples of Bob and Ray’s comedy.

The Jabberwock is a creature referenced in Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There by Lewis Carroll. Watch these two clips of Jack Palance performing as the Jabberwork in the TV movie Alice Through the Looking Glass.

Drac the Knife is a parody of Mack the Knife that originally appeared on Dracula’s Greatest Hits by Gene Moss and Fred Rice. Watch Bobby Darin perform Mack the Knife on the Ed Sullivan show.

Watch Bobby Pickett perform The Monster Mash and The Monster Swim.

The Green Bee is inspired by Flight of the Bumblebee.

Up next… Astoria by Marianas Trench

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Lory Willard discuss RKS by Rainbow Kitten Surprise and sample Lime Agave from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina; Cheerwine Ale from NoDa Brewing Company in Charlotte, North Carolina; Blue Ridge Haze from Boojum Brewing Co. in Waynesville, North Carolina; and Dreamhuntress from Burial Beer Co. in Asheville, North Carolina.

Shout out to the staff at Tobacco Road Burley & Brew for suggesting several of the beers we sampled today, and many others still sitting in our fridges!

Ginger’s Revenge created a character for each of their four core beers. Meet the members of the band and check out each of their customized Spotify playlists!

The band Rainbow Kitten Surprise is from Boone, home of Booneshine Brewing Company! You can hear our review of several Booneshine beers on Bellyshine (Jellyfish and Booneshine Brewing Co.).

Meet the members of Rainbow Kitten Surprise!

As a comparison to Cold Love, Barry played a sample of Homeless by Paul Simon and Ladysmith Black Mambazo off of Paul Simon’s Graceland. You can hear our review of Graceland on Bar'nSider (Paul Simon & Barn Door Ciderworks).

Cheerwine Ale is a collaboration between NoDa Brewing and Cheerwine! You can hear more about this beer during an episode of Beer Guys Radio featuring Chad Henderson, NoDa’s co-founder and head brewer.

Up next… Screemers

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Todd Sider (Abigail’s uncle and Barry’s brother-in-law) discuss Todd’s Jukebox submission, Thriller by Michael Jackson, and sample LingLing Lager, Lil Slice of Hefen, Buxom Blonde Ale, Queen Sour, and Sitting In Limbo from lot 9 brewing co. in Bluffton, South Carolina.

Many thanks to Walter Trifari, brewmaster at lot 9 brewing co., for sitting down with us to chat about the brewery… and then staying on to chat with us about Thriller! Best surprise ever! You can find lot 9 on Facebook, X, and Instagram! lot 9’s website is also worth a look, especially the Beer 101 page!

Listen to Todd’s previous Jukebox episode, our first ever Jukebox episode, Hoptenders (The Pretenders & Chapman's Brewing Co.)!

Listen to our sister podcast discuss the “Weird Al” album which parodies Beat It on Dorks on Corks on 4-1 ("Weird Al" Yankovic and Schnebly Winery). We also briefly discussed Weird: The Al Yankovic Story, which you can watch for free on The Roku Channel!

Farrah Fawcett died on the same day as Michael Jackson. We briefly discussed her famous poster.

Abigail submitted Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ to the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Don’t Stop the Music by Rihanna.

Walter brought to our attention One Bite Pizza Rankings.

Thriller features Vincent Price, an American character actor who appeared in many horror films. Watch the famous music video for Thriller.

Watch the music video for Beat It. The music video for Eat It is a shot-for-shot remake.

Todd compared The Lady in My Life to Bill Murray’s Nick the Lounge Singer sketch on Saturday Night Live.

Our next Jukebox episode will be He’s the DJ, I’m the Rapper by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, submitted by Barry’s brother and Abigail’s uncle, Derek Hummel, Sr. This episode is scheduled to drop on December 8, 2023.

Up next… RKS by Rainbow Kitten Surprise

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Jack Cornell discuss the newest single from Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team (or the O.A.K. Team), Chainsaw Repair Shop. We also sample Oktoberfest from 3 Sons Brewing Co. in Dania Beach, Florida, and Buzzfest from Infinite Ale Works in Ocala, Florida.

A detailed history of Jack’s musical projects and collaborators is available in our episode Bonus: Friendship Wins (Jack Cornell and Tripping Animals Brewing).

Buy Chainsaw Repair Shop, or pre-save it on Spotify!

The genesis of this episode was Abigail sharing Had Me at Get Lost with Dave Z on our last episode, 62: Dave Z on Pops on Hops (The Smithereens & Chicagoland Beers).

Clips shared on this episode are:

Willie Mays by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team (Barry’s favorite song off of National Champions)
Fat Lady in the Stands by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team

Chainsaw Repair Shop debuted on Mojo Nixon’s The Loon in the Afternoon on SiriusXM Outlaw Country.

Barry once again brought up A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs during a discussion of Leon Russell. Two episodes discussed Russell’s early work as a session pianist, including Episode 153: Heroes and Villains by The Beach Boys.

Jack recommended Brave Combo, a genre-bending, accordion-heavy band from Texas.

Up next… Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Todd Sider.

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Dave Zalatoris of the Beer in Front podcast discuss Smithereens 11 by The Smithereens and sample several Chicagoland beers of Dave’s choosing! We both taste WayBird Hazy IPA from Half Acre Beer Company and Arcade-Hero from Revolution Brewing Company. Abigail also tastes Hala Kahiki from Lake Effect Brewing Company and Barry tastes Vanilla Deth from Revolution Brewing Company.

Listen to our appearance on Beer in Front!

The Smithereens were one of the first artists to perform on MTV Unplugged, in December of 1989.

Abigail entered Blues Before and After into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Had Me at Get Lost by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team…

…And then Barry entered Blue Period - Acoustic into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to In My Life by The Beatles.

Abigail felt the same way about Cut Flowers as she did about She Talks to Angels by The Black Crowes. Meanwhile, Barry compared it to a modern Eleanor Rigby.

Barry once again brought up A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, specifically Episode 61: “That’ll Be the Day” by The Crickets, which tells the first part of Buddy Holly’s story, and Episode 74: “It Doesn’t Matter Any More” by Buddy Holly, which references the story behind Maria Elena.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Music from the Original Motion Picture) by Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer and sample Green Zebra Watermelon, Green Zebra Peach, Green Zebra Pineapple, and Green Zebra Mango from Founders Brewing Co. in Grand Rapids, Michigan.Barry revealed that the first song in the end credits of a film is eligible for an Oscar nomination. The David Byrne song This Is a Life that we briefly discussed in Byrned-Again (David Byrne and Lincoln & South Brewing) was nominated based on its presence in the end credits of Every Everything Everywhere All at Once.Barry and Abigail discussed the tendency of Disney animators to recycle various scenes in multiple movies. Watch some examples!Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmaron was directed by Kelly Asbury, whose monochrome books were staples in the Hummel household when Abigail was a child.Barry entered Get Off My Back into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with Windy by The Association.Don’t Let Go reminded Abigail of the Xanadu soundtrack, particularly Suddenly. Listen to our discussion of Xanadu in our episode Can I Do (Xanadu Soundtrack and English Beers).Run Free reminded Abigail of Stampede, the song played over the wildebeest stampede scene in The Lion King (also composed by Hans Zimmer!).Barry saw zebras “in the wild” at Hearst Castle.The woodwinds in The Long Road Back reminded Abigail of the music of R. Carlos Nakai, a Native American flutist with Navajo-Ute heritage.Up next… Smithereens 11 by The Smithereens, featuring special guest Dave Zalatoris of the Beer in Front podcast! Listen to our appearance on Beer in Front!Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pops-on-hops-podcast/message

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Barry and Abigail discuss Four by Blues Traveler and pour our own flights at Hopportunities in Delray Beach, Florida. We sample Butter Beer from Spanish Marie Brewery in Miami, Florida; Lumen from Grimm Artisan Ales in Brooklyn, New York; Tripping Through Maine (2022) from Barreled Souls Brewing in Saco, Maine (in collaboration with Tripping Animals Brewing Company in Doral, Florida); and Amorphia from Hudson Valley Brewery in Beacon, New York.

Christmas by Blues Traveler is a Hummel family favorite Christmas song.

Watch the music video for Run-Around, which was one of Barry’s first exposures to the music of this album.

Barry compared the story structure of Price to Pay to that of Carolina Drama by The Raconteurs and the lyrical structure to that of Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann’s Earth Band.

Watch the meta music video for the very meta Hook.

Up next… Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Music from the Original Motion Picture) by Bryan Adams and Hans Zimmer.

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Barry and Abigail discuss We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz and sample Lucky Strikes, Echoes of Sacrificial Voices, and Basking In the Glow from Petty Thieves Brewing Co. in Charlotte, North Carolina. We want to thank Barry’s college and medical school colleague, Dr. Michael McCrohan, for helping us obtain this fabulous beer, and for his “contribution to the arts.”

Lucky Strikes is a collaboration with Cabarrus Brewing Co in Concord, North Carolina.

The names of the beers we sampled today reminded Abigail of the names of the beers we sampled at Burial Beer Company in Asheville, North Carolina: Prophetmaker, A Canvas of Fragmented Memoirs, A Space For Sacrilege, and Of A Fading Season. Listen to our full episode at Burial, Consumers of the Barley (The Raconteurs and Burial Beer Co.).

We make a lot of comparisons to Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer, which we reviewed in our episode Mind Your Grammer (Andy Grammer and Deadwords Brewing).

Watch one of the TikToks Abigail referenced poking fun at artists including “raw audio” in their songs. Your Love is My Drug by Kesha is a great example of this phenomenon.

Lucky features Colbie Caillat, whose song I Do appears on our family playlist of favorite love songs from 2011. Abigail’s choice on that playlist was The Bird and the Worm by Owl City, and Barry's was Maybe I'm Amazed by Paul McCartney.

Abigail contends that Butterfly is no more explicit than Swimming In Your Ocean by Crash Test Dummies. Listen to our full discussion of Crash Test Dummies, Pops Shuffled His Feet (Crash Test Dummies and Toll Road Brewing).

Details in the Fabric features James Morrison. We shared a little bit of his song Under the Influence.

Up next… Four by Blues Traveler

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Barry and Abigail discuss our next Jukebox submission, Oracular Spectacular by MGMT and sample Oggy, Passionfruit Mochi, and Peanut Brother from Great Notion Brewing in Portland, Oregon. This album was submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Paul Zawacki [The Procession, previously discussed on Musique Marécageuse (The Procession & Swamp Head Brewery) and interviewed on A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special)].

Oggy is named after Ogopogo, a lake monster said to inhabit Okanagan Lake in British Columbia, Canada.

Listen to Paul’s previous Jukebox episode, Abigail Battles the Pink Goblets (The Flaming Lips).

Read the jambands.com article about MGMT’s performance on the Live on Letterman concert series, which introduced Paul to the band!

Of Moons, Birds & Monsters reminds Abigail in mood and tone of Space Oddity by David Bowie and The Commander Thinks Aloud by The Long Winters. There is a fantastic episode of Song Exploder focused on The Commander Thinks Aloud, which was written about the Space Shuttle Columbia.

Our next Jukebox episode will be Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted by Todd Sider. This episode is scheduled to drop on September 29, 2023.

Up next… We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz

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Barry and Abigail discuss God Shuffled His Feet by Crash Test Dummies and sample The Crowd Pleaser, Lowest Common Denominator, Mike's, St. Pete Parkour, and Sun Ryes from Toll Road Brewing Company in Ocoee, Florida.

Many thanks to Duane Morin and David Strickland, co-owners and brewers at Toll Road Brewing, for sitting down with us to chat about the history and future of the brewery!

Toll Road features two offerings, Choose Your Own Adventure (a hard seltzer) and Kayfabe (a Berliner Weisse) that can be customized with different flavors using beverage infusions!

Barry recommended Superman’s Song from Crash Test Dummies’ first album, The Ghosts That Haunt Me.

View the setlist of the performance that Barry saw in 1994 when Crash Test Dummies opened for Elvis Costello, and view this Variety review of the concert.

Canities subita, also called Marie Antoinette syndrome or Thomas More syndrome, is an alleged condition of hair turning white overnight due to stress or trauma.

This Los Angeles Times article from April 1994 discusses how the success of Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm as a single drove the success of the entire album.

Crash Test Dummies reference David Byrne in When I Go Out with Artists. Listen to our review of Byrne’s Uh-Oh, Byrned-Again (David Byrne and Lincoln & South Brewing).

Up next… Oracular Spectacular by MGMT, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Paul Zawacki.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer and sample Bridge, Proeza, Soft Pivot, and Harvest Moon from Deadwords Brewing in Orlando, Florida.

Many thanks to Jack Henning, brewpub manager at Deadwords Brewing, for sitting down with us to chat about all the fun things going on at the brewery.

Abigail played a sample of Honey, I’m Good. from Grammer’s second album to demonstrate the continuation of the misogyny displayed in his lyrics on this album.

Abigail had her “Let’s Dance” moment with this album. Listen to our episode Let's Drink (David Bowie and Cultured Collective Brewing) to learn what exactly we mean by that!

Barry heard Eric Clapton’s Change the World in The Pocket.

Watch the music video for Biggest Man in Los Angeles.

Our bonus review was for Underberg, a digestif made with herbs from 43 countries.

Up next… God Shuffled His Feet by Crash Test Dummies

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Barry and Abigail discuss Flight of the Cosmic Hippo by Béla Fleck and the Flecktones and sample The Brangus, Bull Ring, Sour Patch Kegs - Watermelon Sour, and Brambles BlackBerry Hazy IPA from Daft Cow Brewery in Alachua, Florida.

Barry first heard Flight of the Cosmic Hippo on an episode in the third season of Northern Exposure called Jules et Joel.

Barry stunned Abigail with the information that Steve Martin is a GRAMMY-winning banjo player for his album The Crow: New Songs for the Five-String Banjo. He has two albums with Edie Brickell, Love Has Come for You and So Familiar.

Abigail heard We Three Kings in Star of the County Down. Béla Fleck and the Flecktones have a Christmas album called Jingle All the Way, but, unfortunately, We Three Kings does not appear on it.

Many thanks to Scott Brown, owner and brewer (and professional glass-washer!) of Daft Cow Brewery, for sitting down with us to chat about the history of the brewery and the San Felasco Tech City where it resides.

Up next… Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer

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Barry and Abigail discuss The World from the Side of the Moon by Phillip Phillips and sample Sticky Puddles - Pineapple Upside Down Cake, Blissful Ignorance, Unchecked Hedonism, and Polarnattens Paradis from Lupulin Brewing Company in Big Lake, Minnesota.

Barry had previously heard Home when the Florida Panthers used the song in their 2012-2013 fan video.

Barry thought Tell Me a Story sounded like Dave Matthews Band, whereas Abigail thought Get Up Get Down sounded like Dave Matthews Band.

Shout out to our friend Dave Zalatoris from the Beer in Front podcast! Check out his podcast, Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube for more beer-related content. As Dave says, “sometimes the Beer In Front of you is the best one yet!”

Up next… Flight of the Cosmic Hippo by Béla Fleck and the Flecktones

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Barry, Abigail, and guest Frances Walton discuss Mutemath by Mutemath and sample Original and Cranberry Herb from Ginger’s Revenge in Asheville, North Carolina.Frances and Barry met as Patreon subscribers of Stand Up! with Pete Dominick, and Frances has appeared on Pete’s show numerous times as part of his special segment “The Hue.” She has also appeared on her brother’s podcast Phrankly Speaking, most recently joining him for a two-part series about Tom Cruise.Friend of the podcast Jon Carroll will be touring with Mary Chapin Carpenter this summer! You may be able to catch Barry and Abigail (and Frances) at the Charlotte show on August 11, 2023!Frances discovered Mutemath at a college concert where they opened for Switchfoot. She purchased the Teleprompt version of the album at the concert. We reviewed the Warner Bros. version. Read about the differences between the two releases.Ginger’s Revenge created a character for each of their four core beers. Meet the band and check out each of their customized Spotify playlists!Abigail heard similarities between this album and Coldplay's Mylo Xyloto.Frances compared the vocals in Collapse to Joga by Björk.The “reverse back masked” music video for Typical reminded Frances of the creativity and artistry of OK Go’s music videos. You can hear more about backmasking in our episode Tripping Walruses (The Beatles & Tripping Animals Brewing Co.) or in the Omnibus entry dedicated to the topic.Frances compared the syncopated drumming of Darren King, Mutemath’s drummer, to the drumming in Take Five (Take Another Five) by Grover Washington, Jr.Abigail got U2 vibes from Plan B; Frances heard elements U2 in Control (she mentioned Elevation as a possible comparison). Barry contributed to his Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music thesis by comparing Control to Times Like These by Foo Fighters.Stall Out reminded Frances of Ride by Bond.Our next Jukebox episode will be Time to Pretend by MGMT, submitted by Paul Zawacki. This episode is scheduled to drop on July 21, 2023.Up next… The World from the Side of the Moon by Phillip PhillipsJingles are by our friend Pete Coe.Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition.Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic!Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pops-on-hops-podcast/message

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Barry and Abigail discuss Uh-Oh by David Byrne and sample Wheel Man, Afterglow, and Island Drive from Lincoln & South Brewing Company in Hilton Head Island, Florida.

Barry and Abigail spoke briefly about Renée Richards while discussing Now I’m Your Mom. Renée is a transgender woman who competed professionally in tennis in the 1970s. She also fought and won a landmark case in transgender rights in the New York Supreme Court after being barred from numerous women’s tennis competitions in 1976 for refusing to take a genetic test to verify her chromosomes. Barry recalled Renée’s story as being one of the first instances of widespread media coverage of transgender issues.

Abigail heard vague similarities between Girls on My Mind and various songs from The Raconteurs’ Consolers of the Lonely (most notably Old Enough).

David Byrne performed at the Oscars for his nominated co-written song from Everything Everywhere All at Once, This Is a Life. Read more about the performance.

Please take a moment to check out What Am I Making, a multimedia creative endeavor by friend of the podcast Matt Carlson. Barry and Abigail appeared on his sixth podcast episode; listen here!

Monkey Man reminded Abigail of 14 Arms by Crash Kings.

Up next… Mutemath by Mutemath, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Frances Walton.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Crash Kings by Crash Kings and sample Polyjuice Porter, Weathercaster, and The Blackthorn #8 W/ Guajillo Chile from King Maker Brewing in Jacksonville, Florida.

Barry compared various vocal and musical styles on this album to Jack White, Freddie Mercury, and Jukebox the Ghost (whom we reviewed in our episode Racing Due South [Jukebox the Ghost & Due South Brewing Co.]).

Barry and Abigail briefly discussed Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt’s Oblique Strategies. Learn more in the Omnibus entry dedicated to the topic.

Barry and Abigail were divided in their opinions on Raincoat, but mentioned Bus Stop by The Hollies and Umbrella by Rihanna, respectively, as examples of songs with similar metaphors.

Up next… Uh-Oh by David Byrne

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Barry and Abigail discuss The Masked Marauders by The Masked Marauders and sample Blueberry Moscato and Sunshine State Berry Sangria from Island Grove Wine Company in Hawthorne, Florida.

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Abigail first learned of this “prank” album from the Ridiculous Crime episode The Battlin' Fleetwood Macs. The Masked Marauders band was made up of members from the Cleanliness and Godliness Skiffle Band. Chicken on a Unicycle has an amazing illustration of the genealogy and history of these two bands.

Read the original fake review of The Masked Marauders that appeared in Rolling Stone on October 18, 1969!

Abigail shared that she recently watched Weird: The Al Yankovic Story, which has a similar backstory to that of The Masked Marauders. The Wikipedia entry for the movie and the original Funny or Die trailer that inspired the movie are both worth a look. You can watch the film for free on The Roku Channel!

I Can’t Get No Nookie, featuring a Mick Jagger impersonator, frequently gets mislabeled as an outtake from The Rolling Stones’ Jamming with Edward sessions.

The version of I Am the Japanese Sandman (Rang Tang Ding Dong) that appears on The Masked Marauders is a cover of The Cellos’ Rang Tang Ding Dong (I Am the Japanese Sandman) (and includes the same racist music and lyrics). In trying to locate the origins of the song, we also played Paul Whiteman’s The Japanese Sandman (instrumental) and Nora Bayes’ The Japanese Sandman (with lyrics).

Listen to The Truncated Marauders, our “resequencing” of this album.

Up next… Crash Kings by Crash Kings

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Barry and Abigail discuss Hollywood Town Hall by The Jayhawks and sample The Meredith Palmer Effect, Mango Blood Orange, Apeiron, and German Chocolate Oatmeal Stout from Infinite Ale Works in Ocala, Florida.

Abigail heard similarities in the openings of Waiting for the Sun and Mary Jane’s Last Dance by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

It turns out she wasn’t alone. Read this article on the 30th anniversary of Hollywood Town Hall for an interesting explanation of the similarity!

Abigail and Barry both entered Sister Cry into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music: Abigail with a comparison to Wrong for That by Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team, and Barry with a comparison to Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones.

Check out this article from Rolling Stone on the latest album by the Jayhawks, XOXO.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Sounds Like This by Eric Hutchinson and sample Fortescue Fisherman's Ale, It’s A Wonderful Ale 2022, Sparkles Sky Dancer Strawberry Short Cake, and Into the Dankness from Glasstown Brewing Company in Millville, New Jersey.

Many thanks to the owners and staff of Glasstown Brewing Company, including the dynamic sister-brother duo Jenifer Simmons and Mike Rossi, for speaking with us and for opening the taproom early to allow us to record!

Read about the history of glassmaking in South Jersey!

Abigail plugged Lolita Podcast by Jamie Loftus in reference to Outside Villanova.

Barry recognized some elements of U + Ur Hand by P!nk in Rock & Roll.

Barry compared Oh! to It’s My Job by Jimmy Buffett.

Barry and Abigail were admiring James Jamerson basslines in three videos sent to Barry by friend of the pod (and bassist) Jack Cornell.

Up next… Hollywood Town Hall by The Jayhawks

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Greg Jong [The Procession, previously discussed on Musique Marécageuse (The Procession & Swamp Head Brewery) and interviewed on A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special)] discuss Greg’s Jukebox submission, Xanadu by Olivia Newton-John and ELO. We also sample London Pride from Fuller's Brewery, Morland Old Speckled Hen from Greene King, and Newcastle from Lagunitas Brewing Company.

Barry once again brought up A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, specifically Episode 160: “Flowers in the Rain” by the Move.

Greg referenced an advert for John Smith’s beer featuring a jingle about a widget.

Check out Greg’s website, and buy his new album with Pure Reason Revolution, Above Cirrus!

Listen to ReduXanadu, which has this album’s song resequenced in the order in which they appear in the film.

Our next Jukebox episode will be Mutemath by Mutemath, submitted by Frances Walton. This episode is scheduled to drop on May 12, 2023.

Up next… Sounds Like This by Eric Hutchinson

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Dear listeners, we come to you today with a short admin update. Pops on Hops is taking a dry January and a dry February to give our livers - and our production schedule - a bit of a break.

We will continue recording and banking episodes during our hiatus so that when our third season kicks off on March 3, 2023, we will have tons of fabulous content ready for you.

In the meantime, we now have a backlog of 47 regular episodes and 12 bonus episodes. Revisit one of your old favorites, or listen to an episode you've never tried before! Or share with a friend! We are excited for what 2023 will bring and hope you will come along on this ride with us.

Happy New Year, and we'll see you in March!

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We are excited to share this bonus episode with all of you. Several musicians who have appeared on the podcast or will be making their debut in early 2023 were kind enough to share their Christmas greetings… and their Christmas songs… for our Pops on Hops fans! Some of these are older songs, and some were recorded specifically for this episode.

First up is “The Christmas Song” performed by Connie and Nick Martino (feat. Daphne Martino). Nick will be joining us next season to discuss his work with New York Funk Exchange.

Our second entry is from Matt Carlson of Harborcoat. Matt produced a new Christmas single for 2022, a cover of Valley Winter Song by Fountains of Wayne. Listen to Matt’s interview in our episode Friends are Inclusive.

Up next is Jack Cornell, who shared an old Olympic Ass-Kicking Team song, “Christmas on the Faces.” Listen to Jack’s interview in our episode Friendship Wins.

Rounding out our special is a song by Grammy-winning artist Jon Carroll, formerly of Starland Vocal Band. Jon shared his recording of Going Home For Christmas, a song he has long played at the Annual Jingle Jam Concerts in Leesburg, Virginia, to benefit the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. Listen to Jon’s interview in our episode Today (With Jon Carroll).

We will see everybody when season three begins in March 2023. We will kick things off with a discussion of Xanadu by ELO, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Greg Jong of The Procession. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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It’s time for “Pop’s Pop on Pops on Hops!” Barry, Abigail, and special guest Barry Hummel, Sr. (Barry’s pop and Abigail’s pop-pop) discuss A Christmas Album by The Platters and sample three Christmas beers: Merry Monkey from Victory Brewing Company in Downingtown, Pennsylvania; St. Nikolaus Bock from Penn Brewery in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; and Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Peppermint Porter from Lexington Brewing & Distilling Co. in Lexington, Kentucky.

Barry put in a plug for A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs’ Episode 31: “Only You” by the Platters.

Barry, Sr.’s favorite song by The Platters is My Prayer, as canonized in our series of Hummel family favorites albums. (His favorite Christmas song is The Greatest Gift of All by Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton.)

Barry loves The Beach Boys’ version of Auld Lang Syne. The Platters included a version of For Auld Lang Syne on their original Christmas record.

The Platters appeared multiple times on American Bandstand, music-performance and dance television program that aired in various versions from 1952 to 1989. Watch their Bandstand performance from 1959 and their Bandstand interview from 1967.

Up next… Xanadu by ELO, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Greg Jong of The Procession. This episode will be released on March 3, 2023.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Little Earthquakes by Tori Amos and sample Gardens Gold, Papa Pump, and Beer:30 from Twisted Trunk Brewing in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.

Before her solo career, Amos was in a band called Y Kant Tori Read. Their eponymous debut album was a commercial failure and the band disbanded shortly after. However, Amos still had to comply with her six-record contract. Early versions of Little Earthquakes were rejected by the record company before the album was reworked with a new producer and eventually released.

Abigail heard elements of My Same by Adele in Happy Phantom.

Beer:30 features the experimental YQH-1320 hop!

Up next… A Christmas Album by The Platters

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Jeff “Jafo” Shettler discuss some Pink Floyd songs and some beers that were “left over” after Jafo’s Jukebox episode, Wish There Were Beer. We sample Uncertainty Reigns and Sweet Zombie Jesus from brewLAB in Carpinteria, California, as well as one of Jafo’s own homebrew creations, Ukrainian Imperial Stout.

At the time of recording, Wish There Were Beer was tied for our fifth-most-listened-to episode.

Tracks we discuss include Hey Hey Rise Up, a single featuring Andriy Khlyvnyuk of Ukrainian band BoomBox. The vocals are lifted from a viral video of “Khlyvnyuk singing Oi u luzi chervona kalyna (Oh, the Red Viburnum in the Meadow)”, a Ukrainian patriotic march written in 1914 to honor the Sich Riflemen. Proceeds from the single support the charitable organization Ukraine Humanitarian Fund.

We also discuss When the Tigers Broke Free and What Shall We Do Now?, two tracks that appear in the film Pink Floyd: The Wall but do not appear on the album The Wall by Pink Floyd.

Pink Floyd, the main character in Pink Floyd: The Wall was played by Bob Geldof of The Boomtown Rats. He later wrote Do They Know It’s Christmas? by Band Aid and organized the Live Aid concert held simultaneously in London, England, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Up next… Little Earthquakes by Tori Amos

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Barry and Abigail discuss Songs About Jane by Maroon 5 and sample “leftover” beers from previously reviewed breweries: Eau Melon from Intracoastal Brewing Company in Melbourne, Florida; Fall Shakecation from Mastry’s Brewing Co. in St. Pete Beach, Florida; and Double Vanilla Scoop Shake from 3 Sons Brewing Co. in Dania Beach, Florida.

Abigail and Barry recognized similarities in the stories told in This Love and Twice as Hard by The Black Crowes.

Abigail compared the chorus of The Sun to some of the lyrics in What I Did For Love from the musical A Chorus Line.

The imagery in Must Get Out reminded Abigail of Love Comes Tumbling Down by Matt Nathanson.

Double Vanilla Scoop Shake was a collaboration with Mikkeller, a brewery based in Copenhagen, Denmark, and featured Mostra Coffee (based in San Diego, California) as an ingredient.

Up next… Little Earthquakes by Tori Amos

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Barry and Abigail discuss Hindu Love Gods by Hindu Love Gods and sample Porch Pineapple, ...and There's Your BFF, Enough Space - Collab With Hilton Head Island Coffee Roasters, and Rocket Emoji from Side Hustle Beer Company in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Hindu Love Gods was a side project of Bill Berry, Peter Buck, and Mike Mills of R.E.M. with Warren Zevon (whose most famous song is Werewolves of London).

This album contains a cover of Battleship Chains, a song written by Terry Anderson for The Woodpeckers. We covered this story in detail during our interview with Jack Cornell, Friendship Wins (Jack Cornell and Tripping Animals Brewing). The Woods’ recording of Battleship Chains is not available on the internet, but The Georgia Satellites’ recording is.

Bill Berry’s first musical group since R.E.M., The Bad Ends, recently released a single (All Your Friends Are Dying) ahead of their debut album to be released in January.

The only two other Hindu Love Gods songs available are Gonna Have a Good Time Tonight and Narrator, the latter of which was written by Bill Berry.

Up next… Songs About Jane by Maroon 5

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Jon Carroll (The Starland Vocal Band) discuss Jon’s musical past, present, and future and review three of his recent singles: Today (Not Tomorrow), (You Gotta) Stand Up!, and Rich Man’s Daughter.

Jon and Barry met in the wonderful Patreon community of Stand Up! with Pete Dominick.

Jon recalled some of his favorite tracks from his youth: Mahalia Jackson’s If I Can Help Somebody and The Chimes’ Let Your Hair Down, and the track that made his mother appreciate soul music: Brook Benton’s Rainy Night in Georgia. Jon also remembers where he was the first time he ever heard Dire Straits’ Money For Nothing.

Jon suggested we listen to Harry Nilsson’s Nilsson Sings Newman… so we added it to our Virtual Jukebox!

Jon listened to our episode on The Black Crowes! He thought we should have compared the Crowes to Faces or Humble Pie instead of to The Rolling Stones (no one is safe!).

Follow Jon on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or YouTube for information about his upcoming album!

We closed with Jon Carroll’s Tight Connection to My Heart (Has Anybody Seen My Love), a Bob Dylan cover.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Oktoberfest ist Wunderbar by Jimmy Horzen and sample three German festbiers: Weihenstephaner Festbier from Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan, Oktoberfest Märzen from Hacker-Pschorr, and Oktoberfest Märzen / Original Münchner Märzen from Paulaner Brauerei.

Read the Untappd article that inspired Barry’s beer choices for this episode, including information on the “big six” Munich breweries that can use the Oktoberfest label on their beers.

Watch as the wonderful Latvian-born accordionist Ksenija Sidorova introduces her instrument as part of Classic FM's new video series Discover Instruments.

Watch Anders Flanderz One Man Band perform the Harry Potter Theme (featuring an accordion!).

Watch relative of the pod Zachary “Def Poppa” Hummel play the tuba.

Schnitzelbank is a cumulative song that reminded Abigail of Children Go Where I Send Thee (the version she is most familiar with is by Natalie Merchant).

Why do beer steins have lids?

Up next… Hindu Love Gods by Hindu Love Gods

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Barry, Abigail, and guest Derek Hummel, Sr. (Abigail’s uncle and Barry’s brother), discuss Make Yourself by Incubus and sample Sap Tap, Mabel's Monster Mangos, AIS Chief, and Smoked Pumpkin Habanero from Hell 'n Blazes Brewing Company in Melbourne, Florida.

Three Incubus songs were on Abigail’s core musical rotation in high school: Drive, Megalomaniac, and Anna Molly.

Sap Tap reminded Abigail of Blueberry Maple Gose by Pompano Beach Brewing Company.

Privilege reminded Abigail of the music of RENT (especially the titular song Rent).

The “mental piracy” mentioned in When It Comes reminded Abigail of the themes in Dolly Parton’s 9 to 5.

Listen to Remake Yourself, our resequencing of this album.

Up next… Oktoberfest ist Wunderbar by Jimmy Horzen

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Barry and Abigail discuss Shake Your Money Maker by The Black Crowes and sample Nefarious Nebulas, Norwegian Wizard Crisis, I Ain’t Afraid of No Roast, Sourmanjaro, and The Desert Spoon from Deviant Wolfe Brewing in Sanford, Florida.

This album reminds Barry of 70s Rolling Stones albums such as Exile on Main Street (you might know Happy), Beggars Banquet, and Let It Bleed, as well as the single Bitch. Barry introduced Abigail to a new genre term, roadhouse blues, encapsulated by The Doors’ song Roadhouse Blues.

The Black Crowes originated as Mr. Crowe’s Garden, a name based on Johnny Crow’s Garden, a children’s book written and illustrated by Leonard Leslie Brooke.

Ageusia is the loss of the sense of taste.

Thick N’ Thin has some piano elements that remind Barry of Great Balls of Fire by Jerry Lee Lewis.

Read about sotol.

Up next… Make Yourself by Incubus, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Derek Hummel, Sr.

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Barry, Abigail, and third-time guest Zachary Hummel, brother to Abigail and son to Barry, discuss Under Pressure by Logic and sample Burton’s Best, Seaside Sour, Windtalker, Baltic Porter, and Brew Club 9th Anniversary Ale from Community Brewhouse in Sanford, Florida.

Many thanks to Gary Holmes and Aaron Libera, Co-Owners of Community Brewhouse, for sitting down with us to discuss the fascinating story behind Community Brewhouse and the Sanford Homebrew Shop.

Zach has seen Logic twice, once on the Bobby Tarantino vs. Everybody Tour in Tampa (setlist), and once on the Confessions of a Dangerous Mind tour in Orlando (setlist).

Zach noted that Under Pressure contains a sample from Eazy-Duz-It by Eazy-E.

These lyrics deserve your attention. We got a lot of the information shared on this episode from the Genius annotations for each song.

Read about Barry’s friend Bob Becker, who at the age of 74 broke the course record during the 2019 Race for the Ages ultra-running event in Tennessee using non-alcoholic O’Doul’s as part of his hydration strategy!

Follow Def Poppa Gaming, Zach’s YouTube channel.

Up next… Shake Your Money Maker by The Black Crowes

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Barry and Abigail discuss Bellybutton by Jellyfish and sample South Fork Grapefruit Gose, Squatchy Ale, and Nuclear Seahorse from Booneshine Brewing Company in Boone, North Carolina.

The Man I Used To Be reminded Abigail of Never Tear Us Apart by INXS and I Want You (She’s So Heavy) by The Beatles. Barry heard elements of Oh, Darling! and Honey Pie (The Beatles).

She Still Loves Him reminded Barry of Free As a Bird (The Beatles). Watch the anthology video of Free As a Bird.

Now She Knows She’s Wrong reminded Abigail of Vienna by Billy Joel.

Baby’s Coming Back reminded Abigail of Crazy Little Thing Called Love by Queen.

Up next… Under Pressure by Logic

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Zachary Hummel, brother to Abigail and son to Barry, discuss Smoke and Mirrors by Imagine Dragons and sample Pure, Spill, Canvas (One), and Better Place (Tangerine Guava) from Counterpart Brewing in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

Special thanks to Greg Gnys, Co-Owner of Counterpart Brewing, for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery!

Counterpart brews a lot of music-inspired beer and once had a beer called Radioactive, inspired by Imagine Dragons!

Watch the trailer for Believer, an HBO documentary featuring Imagine Dragons frontman Dan Reynolds.

See the setlist for the Imagine Dragons concert that Zach saw at the BB&T Center in Sunrise, Florida.

Follow Def Poppa Gaming, Zach’s YouTube channel.

Up next… Bellybutton by Jellyfish

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Paul Zawacki [The Procession, previously interviewed on A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special)] discuss Paul’s Jukebox submission, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips.

Read about the Yoshimi musical written by Aaron Sorkin, or watch the trailer.

Radiolab has an episode about Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, who introduced the five stages of grief model.

Do You Realize?? was at one time the state rock song of Oklahoma. Read about why it is no longer.

Yoshimi P-We is a Japanese musician, best known as the drummer of Boredoms, who inspired this album. Her screams appear on Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, Pt. 2.

Barry was recently named to the Southeast Area Board of the American Cancer Society. He will be heading to Washington in September to talk to legislators about the Cancer Moonshot and attending the 12th Annual Lights of Hope event on the National Mall. Learn more about how you can honor someone in your life that has been touched by cancer during that event!

Up next… Smoke and Mirrors by Imagine Dragons

Our next Jukebox episode will be Make Yourself by Incubus, submitted by Barry’s brother and Abigail’s uncle, Derek Hummel, Sr. This episode is scheduled to drop on October 14, 2022.

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Due to a scheduling issue, we had to delay our regular music episode this week! We should be able to drop it next Friday, but we didn’t want to leave the regular listeners hanging! So… Barry, Abigail, and a few extra guests sample Almond Cherry Cider, Concord Grape Cider, Summerset Shandy, and Becker Farms Raspberry Wheat from Becker Brewing Co. in Gasport, New York, from their AirBNB in Niagara, New York, mid-family vacation.

Follow Def Poppa Gaming, Zach’s YouTube channel. Learn the meaning of def.

Darby “Momma Darbs” Sider previously appeared on Bar'nSider (Paul Simon & Barn Door Ciderworks), recorded on our last family vacation to Asheville, North Carolina. On that trip, we enjoyed cider both from Barn Door Ciderworks in Fletcher, North Carolina, and from Urban Orchard Cider in Asheville.

Abigail’s favorite wine is Creekbend Catawba from Oliver Winery and Vineyards in Bloomington, Indiana.

Read more about the unique wine grapes of New York state.

Follow Monet on Instagram.

Wineries we enjoyed at the Niagara Wine Trail Wine Festival include:

810 Meadworks
A Gust of Sun Winery
Leonard Oakes Estate Winery
Long Cliff Vineyard and Winery
Mayer’s Lake Ontario Winery
The Winery at Marjim Manor
Victorianbourg Wine Estate
Vizcarra Vineyards at Becker Farms

Check out more of our wine reviews on Dorks on Corks on 4-1 (Weird Al Yankovic and Schnebly Winery).

Follow DJ P-Nasty on Instagram. Shoutout also to MarLasia Feagin, who appears to be Mr. P-Nasty’s daughter based on our minimal Googling.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Conscious Party by Ziggy Marley and The Melody Makers and sample Franz With Benefits, Daily Chores, Grass and Flower Series, Nitro Babycakes, and Your Roots Are Showing from Walking Tree Brewery in Vero Beach, Florida.

Special thanks to Mike Malone, Head Brewer of Walking Tree Brewery, and his son JT, for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery!

Babycakes won gold in the oatmeal stout category at the 2021 Great American Beer Festival.

JT met Ziggy Marley at a fundraiser for Ocean Research and Conservation, Inc. (ORCA), a Fort Pierce-based organization dedicated to the protection and restoration of aquatic ecosystems and the species they sustain.

The lyrics on this album are deeply steeped in the Rastafarian religion and the Wikipedia article on Rastafari is worth a read.

Barry recommends The Imbalanced History of Rock and Roll’s episode on Bob Marley & The Wailers: Kingston To The World.

Up next… Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, submitted to our Jukebox by Paul Zawacki.

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Barry and Abigail discuss How to Save a Life by The Fray and sample Mel's Gold Ale, 32958 Hazy IPA, Dubbeldolia, Slow Paddle Porter, and Voluntold Oatmeal Stout from Pareidolia Brewing Co. in Sebastian, Florida.

Special thanks to Pete Anderson, Co-Owner and Head Brewer of Pareidolia Brewing Co., for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery!

Mel’s Gold Ale is named for Mel Fisher, a world-famous American treasure-hunter. Mel Fisher’s Treasure Museum is located just up the street from Pareidolia in Sebastian.

Sales of Knee Deep in Peaches Smash Beer raised money for StacheStrong, an organization that supports brain cancer research. Knee Deep in Peaches was also a collaboration with Waycross, Georgia, band The Pine Box Dwellers. The band designed the beer’s logo and can art.

When Barry was recently in Asheville, North Carolina, he visited White Labs Brewing Co., who are known for brewing beers of nearly identical recipes, only altering the yeast, to produce noticeable differences in flavor and aroma.

How to Save a Life was once certified as the best-selling digital album of all time at the time, beating the record previously held by Coldplay’s X&Y.

Abigail saw The Fray live at The Greek Theatre in Los Angeles, California, in July 2007.

Slow Paddle Porter was modeled after Deschutes Brewery’s Black Butte Porter.

Up next… Conscious Party by Ziggy Marley and The Melody Makers

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Barry and Abigail discuss The Lonesome Jubilee by John Cougar Mellencamp and sample Just Like Old Times, Spring Shake-Cation, Acai Juliet, and Ambient #7 from Mastry’s Brewing Co. in St. Pete Beach, Florida.

Many thanks to Matt Dahm, Owner-Founder of Mastry’s Brewing Co., for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery!

Although she did not visit the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly about Music this time, Abigail did hear similarities between The Real Life and Light the Fuse by Jack Cornell [previously interviewed on Friendship Wins (Jack Cornell and Tripping Animals Brewing Co.)]. The message of the song and the specificity of the storytelling reminded Barry of Growing Older But Not Up by Jimmy Buffett.

Escape (The Pina Colada Song) by Rupert Holmes is reminiscent of an O. Henry tale.

Ambient #7 is brewed with hops grown by the UF/IFAS Gulf Coast Research and Education Center in Wimauma, Florida.

Up next… How to Save a Life by The Fray

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Barry and Abigail discuss I’m Not Dead by P!nk and sample Feigose, Persimmon Punch, Void Vibe, and Nightman from Overflow Brewing Company in St. Petersburg, Florida. Special thanks to Ryan Sarno, Managing Member of Overflow Brewing Company, for sitting down with us to discuss the history of the brewery! Watch the music video for Stupid Girls. Shout out to New Music for Olds, comedian Christian Finnegan’s brilliant biweekly newsletter. Barry noted the similarities between Runaway and She’s Leaving Home by The Beatles. Barry and Abigail compared the specificity of the storytelling in The One That Got Away to Coconut Telegraph by Jimmy Buffett and I Can See it in Your Eyes by Men at Work, respectively. Up next… The Lonesome Jubilee by John Cougar Mellencamp Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox

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Barry, Abigail, and guest Jeff “Jafo” Shettler discuss Jeff’s Jukebox submission, Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd. We also sample Green Tea IPA and Creatures of Habit from brewLAB in Carpinteria, California, as well as two of Jafo’s own homebrew creations, Haze Phazer and Hazy 8.

brewLAB recommended pairing their beer with music from Skinshape. We listened to I Didn’t Know while tasting.

Pink Floyd recently released Hey Hey Rise Up, featuring Andriy Khlyvnyuk of Ukrainian band BoomBox. The vocals are lifted from a viral video of Khlyvnyuk singing Oh, the Red Viburnum in the Meadow, a Ukrainian patriotic march written in 1914. Proceeds from the single support the Ukraine Humanitarian Fund.

Barry and Jafo met as coworkers working for James Cameron and his brother Dave on “everything between Titanic and Avatar.” Barry and then-Captain Jafo met at their eventual shared workplace, The Sojourner, a research vessel owned by the Blue Planet Marine Research Foundation.

The opening and closing tracks of Wish You Were Here comprise a nine-part composition called Shine On You Crazy Diamond, written about and dedicated to Syd Barrett, a former Pink Floyd member who was asked to leave the band due to mental health issues.

Follow Jafo on Twitter at @mrshettler1.

Up next… I’m Not Dead by P!nk

Jafo also randomly selected our next Jukebox episode, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots by The Flaming Lips, submitted by Paul Zawacki, scheduled to drop on August 5, 2022.

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As part of our five-hour interview of Matt Carlson (Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds, The Pantones) featured on Friends Are Inclusive (Harborcoat & Bell's Brewery), we asked Matt to rank his top five R.E.M. albums.

We present that conversation to you here, approximately one year after we released our own R.E.M. album rankings on R(ank).E.M. (R.E.M. and Royal Palm Brewing Company).

Matt and Barry met as Patreon subscribers of Stand Up! with Pete Dominick.

Check out the playlist of Barry’s and Abigail’s favorite songs from their favorite R.E.M. albums.

We also created a playlist of Matt’s favorite songs from his favorite R.E.M. albums!

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil and sample Southern Style, Mini-Weights, Oh Snap! Crack! Pop!, Commodore Crunch, Burberry Baltic Porter, and Vine And Dandy from Intracoastal Brewing Company in Melbourne, Florida.

Barry saw Midnight Oil live at a Club 1235 in Miami Beach in June 1988 with his medical school classmate, Dr. Michael Franz.

Abigail heard the iconic first three notes of Beds Are Burning as very similar to the iconic first three notes of Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple.

Abigail associated Dreamworld with Can’t Get There From Here by R.E.M., although she couldn’t quite put her finger on why.

Androporosphere (which appears in Whoah) is a made-up word that is a play on anthroposphere.

Barry recommended Who Moved My Cheese? by Spencer Johnson.

Abigail believes The Home Depot Beat may be a direct rip-off of Sell My Soul.

The double clap at the beginning of Sometimes reminded Abigail of this TikTok.

Up next… Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, submitted to our Jukebox by Jeff “Jafo” Shettler.

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Lungs by Florence + The Machine and sample Scarlet King Red Ale, Well & Good, Lost In Oz Hazy Double, and Tall Pine Porter from Cypress & Grove Brewing Co. in Gainesville, Florida.

See the setlist of the performance that Barry and Abigail saw in 2011 when Florence + The Machine opened for U2.

Watch the available music videos for this album.

Kiss With a Fist reminds Barry of early music by The Pretenders, such as Pretenders, previously reviewed by us on Hoptenders (The Pretenders & Chapman's Brewing Co.). Kiss With a Fist saw an early incarnation as Happy Slap by Ashok, an earlier musical project of Florence Welch.

Florence + The Machine covered You Got the Love by The Source featuring Candi Staton.

The bonus track we reviewed was Swimming.

Up next… Diesel and Dust by Midnight Oil

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss KICK by INXS and sample Island Paradise, Jalapeño Honey Blonde, Lichtenhainer (German Smoked Sour Ale), and Caramel Apple Pie from NOBO Brewing Company in Boynton Beach, Florida.

Read about the mysterious death of Michael Hutchence, the frontman of INXS, and read this list of songs inspired by his life and death.

Barry went through the exercise of resequencing this album as Kicked Again.

The chorus of Devil Inside reminds Abigail of the chorus of You Really Got Me by The Kinks.

Wild Life reminds Barry of Apache by The Sugarhill Gang.

Mystify reminds Abigail of Fever by Peggy Lee.

What is Frühschoppen?

Tiny Daggers reminds Abigail of You Crack Me Up by Huey Lewis and the News.

Up next… Lungs by Florence + The Machine

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe, who we featured on this week’s parody cover!

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Barry and Abigail discuss In 3-D by “Weird Al” Yankovic and sample AvoVino, Carambola Wine, Guava Wine, Passion Fruit, and Lychee Wine from Schnebly Redland’s Winery in Homestead, Florida.

Barry saw “Weird Al” in July 1996 at The Fonda Theater in Hollywood, California during The Bad Hair Tour. Years later, in August 2015, Barry surprised Abigail with tickets to see “Weird Al” at The Broward Center for the Performing Artsduring The Mandatory World Tour.

JP, our wine tour guide from Schnebly, recommended pairing several of the wines with locally-produced smoked fish dip from What Are We Smokin'?

Eddie Van Halen played the guitar solo in Beat It by Michael Jackson. Rick Derringer of The McCoys (who produced In 3-D) recreated the guitar solo on Eat It by “Weird Al.”

Don Pardo of Saturday Night Live fame appears on I Lost on Jeopardy, “Weird Al”’s parody of Jeopardy by The Greg Kihn Band.

The Egg Scrambler is a real product advertised by Ron Popeil that was referenced by “Weird Al” in Mr. Popeil. Ron’s sister Lisa Popeil was one of the backup singers in “Weird Al”’s Mr. Popeil!

Up next… KICK by INXS (for real this time)

Jingles (and the "Dorks on Corks" theme song) are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Jack Cornell discuss Jack’s album One in Wins and sample Octopus Backyard and Hundreds of Babies from Tripping Animals Brewing Co. in Doral, Florida.

Jack and his friend Terry Anderson have been musical partners for over 40 years and have collectively formed the rhythm section of The Fabulous Knobs, The Woods, and, most recently, Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team (or the O.A.K. Team).

The musical genealogy of the North Carolina music scene is complex, and we do a lot of name dropping in this episode. For a more detailed explanation of the cast of characters we reference, we recommend reading The Fabulous Knobs Wikipedia page or visiting our website to read the extended edition of these show notes.

Jack contributed a cover of You’re So Rude by Faces to Be Good to Yourself, an album featuring original songs and performances by North Carolina artists to benefit musicians battling addiction and depression.

Jack volunteers with the Novick Cardiac Alliance, a charity that provides total cardiac care to children in low- and middle-income countries.

Abigail matriculated Jack into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music by comparing his song The Man to Stop Stop by The Black Keys.

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Modern Love by Matt Nathanson and sample Pompano Pale, Galaxy Skate, and Liquid Abstract from 26˚ Brewing Co. in Pompano Beach, Florida.

Matt Nathanson has released two cover albums, Pyromattia (Def Leppard covers) and Achtung Matty (song-by-song covers of Achtung Baby by U2), and recently released Junk Life, a single with Brett Dennen, who was previously reviewed on See the Gourd (Brett Dennen and Pumpkin Beer Samples).

Barry thought Room @ The End of the World sounded like Fred Astaire by Jukebox the Ghost, previously reviewed on Racing Due South (Jukebox the Ghost & Due South Brewing Company).

Barry put in another plug for A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs.

Up next… KICK by INXS

Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe.

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Barry, Abigail, and guest Todd Sider (Abigail’s uncle and Barry’s brother-in-law) discuss Todd’s Jukebox submission, Pretenders by The Pretenders, and sample Harvester, Undaunted, Dr. Jekyll Low Cal Hazy IPA, and Mr. Hyde High Cal Imperial IPA from Chapman’s Brewing Company in Angola, Indiana.

Abigail's only knowledge of The Pretenders prior to reviewing this album was their Christmas song 2000 Miles.

Other woman-led punk rock bands of this era mentioned were Pat Benatar, Heart, and Blondie.

Try listening to Eminence Front by The Who or Where’s the Orchestra by Billy Joel with only one headphone in!

This album includes a cover of Stop Your Sobbing, originally by The Kinks.

Read more about Saltwater Brewery's Eco Six Pack Rings made from spent hops. You can also buy Beer Mutts dog treats made from spent grain.

Barry put in another plug for A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs.

Up next… Modern Love by Matt Nathanson

Our next Jukebox episode will be Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, submitted by Jeff Shettler in Santa Barbara, California, releasing on May 27, 2022.

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Barry and Abigail discuss So by Peter Gabriel and sample Waimea Red, Pono Life, and POG Hazy IPA from Maui Brewing Co. in Kihei, Hawaii.

Barry’s first exposure to this album was the music video for Sledgehammer.

Abigail’s knowledge of Phil Collins and Genesis comes from the Tarzan soundtrack, which Phil Collins wrote.

Barry incorrectly remembered that Sussudio by Phil Collins was knocked out of the Billboard Hot 100 #1 spot by Sledgehammer; in fact, it was Invisible Touch by Genesis that Sledgehammer replaced.

Mercy Street was dedicated to Anne Sexton and inspired by her poem 45 Mercy Street.

Read more about Stanley Milgram’s experiments, or listen to a very nuanced debunking of the experiment’s cultural narrative by You’re Wrong About, one of Abigail’s favorite podcasts.

Up next…our first Jukebox episode! Pretenders by The Pretenders, submitted by Todd Sider.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Death Won’t Send a Letter by Cory Chisel and the Wandering Sons and sample Tropical Acres - Guava, Passion Fruit, Mango, Sour Scoop, and Stereo Sets Vol. 2 Low End Theory from 3 Sons Brewing Co. in Dania Beach, Florida.

Guy Fieri visited 3 Sons Brewing for the food on Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives.

Barry heard Peter Gabriel, Elvis Costello, and Jakob Dylan in Cory Chisel’s voice.

Abigail’s favorite Cory Chisel song is Home in the Woods off of the EP Cabin Ghosts.

Up next… So by Peter Gabriel

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Barry and Abigail discuss Coconut Telegraph by Jimmy Buffett and sample Key Largo Passionfruit Lager, Bloody Iguana, Resistant Strain Double Hibiscus Kolsch, Cranberry Cinnamon Sour, and Kritter Needs Jesus from Florida Keys Brewing Company in Islamorada, Florida.

Before medical school, Barry’s entire knowledge of Jimmy Buffett consisted of Margaritaville and Come Monday. Barry recalled first hearing Why Don’t We Get Drunk on the jukebox at the now-defunct CJ's Oyster Bar in Gainesville, Florida.

Abigail’s first exposure to Jimmy Buffett was The Parakeet Album, a collection of Buffett hits sung by the W. O. Smith Music School singers. This reminded Barry of Disney Songs the Satchmo Way by Louis Armstrong.

Justin and Dr. Sydnee McElroy discuss Buffett’s medical maladies on Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine, episode 374: Jimmy Buffett.

Abigail thought the opening of The Good Fight by Jimmy Buffett sounds like the opening of Ricochet by David Bowie.

As always, the “Anosmia” jingle was performed by our friend Pete Coe! You can follow him on Twitter at @petecoevo.

Up next… Death Won’t Send a Letter by Cory Chisel and the Wandering Sons

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Barry, Abigail, and guest Matt Carlson of Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds, and The Pantones discuss Harborcoat’s new album, Joy is Elusive, and sample Official Hazy IPA, Expedition Stout, and II : The Prairie-Grass Dividing (Leaves of Grass Series) from Bell’s Brewery in Comstock, Michigan.

Matt and Barry met as Patreon subscribers of Stand Up! with Pete Dominick.

Harborcoat is an R.E.M. reference.

Matt listed Billy Bragg as an influence, particularly The Saturday Boy. He recommends Bragg’s first US release, Back to Basics. Billy Bragg songs you may have heard include A New England (later covered by Kirsty MacColl) and Sexuality (co-written with Johnny Marr).

You can buy digital or physical copies of Joy is Elusive (and much of the rest of Matt’s catalog!) from Matt’s own record company, Phonophore Records. You can also find Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds, and The Pantones on Bandcamp.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Eye to the Telescope by KT Tunstall and sample Respect the Escalator, All Tea, All Shade, Tony Bag O' Donuts, and Barrel-Aged Coquito (Pistachio) from J. Wakefield Brewing in Miami, Florida.

J. Wakefield Brewing is in the Wynwood district of Miami, known for Wynwood Walls.

Johnathan Wakefield, owner of J. Wakefield Brewing, hosts The Beer Hour, described as “the intersection of craft beer + pop culture,” on SiriusXM’s Business Radio (also available on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts).

Aside from Eye to the Telescope, Abigail’s only other exploration of KT Tunstall was the song Hold On from her subsequent album Drastic Fantastic.

KT Tunstall headlined Times Square New Year’s Eve 2022. You can watch the full broadcast, including two performances by Tunstall, on Facebook.

Read about the contralto voice type.

Black Horse and the Cherry Tree lives in the same space in Abigail’s brain as The Switch and the Spur by The Raconteurs.

Suddenly I See was covered on the Song Exploder episode KT Tunstall - Suddenly I See.

Up next… Coconut Telegraph by Jimmy Buffett

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Barry and Abigail discuss A Fab Four Christmas, Volume. 1 by The Fab Four and sample P. Swayze IPA, Chet Belgian Tripel, Schweinator, and Voidgazer from Lincoln’s Beard Brewing Co. in Miami, Florida.

Read the story of Grace Beddell and her impact on Lincoln’s beard.

John Falco, co-owner of Lincoln’s Beard, is a big fan of Patrick Swayze, and many of the brewery's beer names are references to his filmography!

Oh, no! Fry’s Electronics recently closed after 36 years! Another source for Barry’s impulse CD purchases has bitten the dust.

You can listen to all of The Fab Four’s Beatles-style Christmas Songs on the collection Hark!

Check out the Beatles’ Red and Blue compilation albums from 1973.

Better still, you can listen to this Santa’s Beard playlist that includes the Beatles’ tracks that inspired each Christmas song!

Our first entry from The Virtual Jukebox was randomly selected during this episode, and it is Pretenders by The Pretenders, submitted by Abigail’s uncle Todd Sider. Our hope is to drop this on March 4, 2022!

Up next… Eye to the Telescope by KT Tunstall

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We wish all of you a healthy and happy holiday season!

We are excited to share this very special bonus episode with all of you. Several friends of the podcast, musicians who have already appeared or will be making their debut in early 2022, were kind enough to share their Christmas greetings… and their Christmas songs… for our Pops on Hops fans!

So, pour yourself an eggnog, settle in, and enjoy the magical “Christmas presence” provided by our friends!

Paul Zawacki - and his daughter Hannah - shared an original Christmas song by The Procession, All I Want is Nothing For Christmas This Year (Pops on Hops exclusive!). Be sure to catch our discussion of The Procession and our interview with members of the band from last spring.

Matt Carlson (Harborcoat, The Stick Arounds) shared his cover of Old Toy Trains by Roger Miller (Pops on Hops exclusive!). Matt will be joining us early in 2022 to discuss Harborcoat's 2021 release, Joy is Elusive.

Austin shared his brand new Christmas single, Christmas Kiss (arranged and produced by Ian Rees), available on iTunes. Ian Rees made his Pops on Hops debut last fall to discuss his most recent solo album, Panic Induced Love. Also, be sure to check out Austin's 2021 release, TTYL.

Jack Cornell, bass player with Terry Anderson and the O.A.K. Team, shared their original song Eggnogorant. Jack will be joining us early in 2022 to discuss his recent solo album, One In Wins.

To wrap it up, Abigail and Barry share their 2007 family holiday greeting, recorded in the style of The Beatles 1963 Christmas fan club single.

Be sure to join us next week for our review of A Fab Four Christmas, Volume. 1 by The Fab Four.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Little Creatures by Talking Heads and sample Splash Pad, Sour Slurps Disco Future, Snake Jazz, and Ninja Juice from Invasive Species Brewing in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Abigail recalled seeing David Byrne at the Hollywood Bowl as part of KCRW’s World Music Festival. Read this review of show’s premiere on June 26, 2005, featuring David Byrne, Arcade Fire, Si*Sé, and the Extra Action Marching Band.

Abigail feels that this album “lives in the same space” in her head as Business as Usual by Men at Work, which we previously reviewed in #10: Drinking as Usual.

Barry thought that Television Man told a story similar to Being There starring Peter Sellers, based on a Jerzy Kosiński novel.

Abigail thought the gospel choir used to open Road to Nowhere was similar to the a cappella opening of Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes by Paul Simon.

The “Anosmia” jingle was performed by our friend Pete Coe! You can follow this happy noisemaker on Twitter at @petecoevo.

U Talkin’ Talking Heads 2 My Talking Head discussed this album in their Little Creatures episode.

Up next… A Fab Four Christmas, Volume. 1 by The Fab Four

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Barry and Abigail discuss See the World by Brett Dennen and sample “leftover” pumpkin beers from previously reviewed (and beloved) breweries: Isle of MaGourdo 2021 from Due South Brewing Company in Boynton Beach, Florida; Pumpkin Spice Latte from Swamp Head Brewery in Gainesville, Florida; and Gabbers Gourdgeous Pumpkin Ale from Royal Palm Brewing Company in Royal Palm Beach, Florida.

Wildflowers by Tom Petty

Barry thinks Brett Dennen and Tracy Chapman frequently sound alike, as in the track Hard Times Come Again No More.

Are We There Yet by Colin Hay

Burt Bacharach

Walk on By performed by Dionne Warwick

Cayamo is a reference to an annual musical cruise, on which Brett Dennen performed in 2019.

Give Peace a Chance by John Lennon and Yoko Ono.

The History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, Episode 51 - “Matchbox” by Carl Perkins

Damien Rice should record a cover version of Alpenglow.

Rockin’ in the Free World by Neil Young.

Up next… Little Creatures by Talking Heads

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Barry and Abigail discuss Let’s Dance by David Bowie and sample Golden Hour, Bavarian Dreams, Galaxy Starship, and Mk Ultra Cherry from Cultured Collective Brewing in Orange Park, Florida.

There was a great debate about the song China Girl by David Bowie and Iggy Pop, which was a rerecording of China Girl by Iggy Pop.

Barry bought Bowie’s follow-up album, Tonight, based on the single Blue Jean, but was otherwise unimpressed. This was the last new David Bowie album Barry would buy until Blackstar, which was released just days before his death in 2016.

Up next… See the World by Brett Dennen

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Barry and Abigail discuss Halloween Howls: Fun and Scary Music by Andrew Gold and sample Weizenwolf, Hipster Popsicle, Space Prom, and Hop Oddity from Aardwolf Brewing Company in Jacksonville, Florida.

Andrew Gold’s hits include Lonely Boy and Thank You for Being a Friend.

The Monster Mash includes vocals from Linda Ronstadt (previously mentioned on our discussion of Graceland by Paul Simon) and 70s icon Stephen Bishop.

Spooky, Scary Skeletons gained popularity as an Internet meme in the 2010s and was remixed by DMA ILLAN.

The Creature From the Tub features Nicolette Larson (known for her hit Lotta Love).

Halloween Party is sung by David Cassidy of The Partridge Family.

Up next… Let’s Dance by David Bowie

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Barry and Abigail discuss The Nylon Curtain by Billy Joel and sample Yellow Throat, Petit Blue, Frayzon, and Chatty Chachalaca from Turgua Brewing Company in Fairview, North Carolina.

Barry heard similarities between Allentown by Billy Joel and Maxwell’s Silver Hammer by The Beatles.

...And between Laura by Billy Joel and Oh! Darling by The Beatles.

...And between Scandinavian Skies by Billy Joel and Across the Universe by The Beatles.

Abigail saw parallels between Goodnight Saigon by Billy Joel and The Things They Carried, a novel by Tim O’Brien.

...And between She’s Right on Time by Billy Joel and It Won’t Be Long by The Beatles.

...And between A Room of Our Own by Billy Joel and Hello, Goodbye by The Beatles.

It turns out that Barry has given two Farmhouse Saison Ales a 4.5 rating… Philosophizer (Adelbert’s Brewery) and Aqua Predator (Off Color Brewing). That’s out of 193 different Farmhouse Saisons sampled to date!

Up next… Halloween Howls: Fun and Scary Music by Andrew Gold

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Barry and Abigail interview family friend Ian Rees to discuss his latest project, a solo album called Panic Induced Love.

Ian discusses many of his musical influences along the way, including The Beatles, Yes, Primus, Radiohead, Sigur Rós, Animal Collective, and Steve Vai.

Ian also discussed composer Bruce Broughton, who worked with his father on Disneyland Paris’s CinéMagique attraction, as an influence on his decision to pursue a career as a soundtrack composer.

Abigail describes Panic Induced Love as an “edgier version of Owl City.”

Ian shared that the track Reasons (A Love Song) was inspired in part by Sleepyhead by Passion Pit.

Ian also shared that the track Feathers was inspired in part by Phone Call, a track from the soundtrack to Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

Everyone discussed their fascination with depressing, complex lyrics that are masked bouncy music, including Jumper by Third Eye Blind. Or just depressing but powerful lyrics like the album Hospice by The Antlers.

Ian plays every instrument on every track. If you don’t believe us, check out his YouTube channel and watch clips from his Building A Song Series!

Also, check out his Bo Burnham-inspired video Why Do I Eat So Much Cheese?

Ian’s other solo EP, Anxious, is also available on Spotify.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Consolers of the Lonely by The Raconteurs and sample Prophetmaker, A Canvas of Fragmented Memoirs, A Space For Sacrilege, and Of A Fading Season from Burial Beer Company in Asheville, North Carolina.

Learn more about Brian Eno’s Oblique Strategies in the OMNIBUS! entry dedicated to the topic.

Watch Abigail’s “Uncle” Steve Moore toast Barry and Momma Darbs at their wedding.

As a reminder, Abigail thinks Salute Your Solution by The Raconteurs sounds like Canary in a Coalmine by The Police.

Barry thinks Pull This Blanket Off by The Raconteurs sounds like Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones...

...He also thinks Carolina Drama by The Raconteurs is reminiscent of Tweeter and the Monkey Man by The Traveling Wilburys.

Up next… The Nylon Curtain by Billy Joel

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Darby “Momma Darbs” Sider discuss Graceland by Paul Simon and sample Rusty Coat, Yardbird, Pasture Pippin, and Straight Up from Barn Door Ciderworks in Fairview, North Carolina.

Barry’s high school literature teacher introduced him to Richard Cory and I Am a Rock by Simon & Garfunkel.

The intended Simon & Garfunkel reunion, Hearts and Bones by Paul Simon, was a commercial flop.

Hear us speculate as to why the UF Fightin' Gator Marching Band frequently plays You Can Call Me Al outside of Abigail’s office.

Paul Simon is in the SNL Five-Timers Club!

Up next… Consolers of the Lonely by The Raconteurs

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Barry and Abigail discuss Where’d Your Weekend Go? by The Mowgli’s and sample Juice, Tricked Out Golf Cart, and Weapon of Choice from Civil Society Brewing in Jupiter, Florida.

Abigail’s favorite song of all time: San Francisco by The Mowgli’s

Alone Sometimes by The Mowgli’s has a similar vibe to Growing Pains by COIN.

Up next… Graceland by Paul Simon

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Barry and Abigail discuss Zenyatta Mondatta by The Police and sample Passionfruit Sour Meringue, Chardonnay Barrel Aged Undefeated Saison, Huzzah! Irish Chocolate Stout, and Hoptagon Double Hazy IPA from Funky Buddha in Oakland Park, Florida.

Salute Your Solution by The Raconteurs

Reprises in The Police and Sting lyrics:

Voices Inside My Head (Zenyatta Mondatta) > Too Much Information (Ghost in the Machine)
Every Little Thing She Does is Magic (Ghost in the Machine) > O My God (Synchronicity)
Every Breath You Take (Synchronicity) > Love is the Seventh Wave (The Dream of the Blue Turtles)
If You Love Somebody Set Them Free (The Dream of the Blue Turtles) > We’ll Be Together (...Nothing Like the Sun)

Teenage Pregnancy by CAKE

Up next… Where’d Your Weekend Go? by The Mowgli’s

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Barry and Abigail discuss Songs from a Ghost Town by Trampled by Turtles and sample a flight of four beers (Cantaloupe Gose, NOM NOM Blueberry Cobbler, Gingerbread Sour, and Enamel Eater) from Hourglass Brewing in Longwood, Florida.

Palomino by Trampled by Turtles

Up next… Zenyatta Mondatta by The Police

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Barry and Abigail discuss Business as Usual by Men at Work and sample a flight of four beers (Melon Mambo NE IPA, Yeah, But Is It Hazy?, Red Bug Red, and Moon Raven) from Oviedo Brewing Company in Oviedo, Florida.

Follow Colin Hay on Instagram and/or Facebook, or better still, check out Men at Work Mondays and hear the backstory on several Men at Work tracks discussed during this podcast.

Read more about Kookaburra Sits in the Old Gum Tree by Marion Sinclair and the copyright dispute with Down Under.

The true meaning of yonnies in the wind

Man @ Work by Colin Hay

Up next… Songs from a Ghost Town by Trampled by Turtles

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Barry, Abigail, and special guest Matt Marder discuss Young and Courageous by Tides of Man and sample three beers (Square Lager, Once Bitten Twice Chai, and Invasive Species) from First Magnitude Brewing Company in Gainesville, Florida.

Tides of Man’s first two full-length albums (before the departure of their vocalist) are Empire Theory and Dreamhouse. We sampled Salamanders and Worms on the podcast.

Barry liberated a truth: the first album that he bought as a teenager was Jaws (Music From The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) by John Williams!

Up next… Business as Usual by Men at Work

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Barry and Abigail discuss Off to the Races by Jukebox the Ghost and sample a flight of four beers (Very Vanilla Caramel Cream Ale, Midnight Marauder, Mexican Standoff, and Ghost Ship) from Due South Brewing Company in Boynton Beach, Florida.

Many thanks to Joe Latona, taproom coordinator of Due South Brewing Company, for speaking with us and for allowing us to invade the taproom for an afternoon!

You can follow Due South Brewing Company on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

Synchronicity II by The Police... because there is more to life than going to work and going home.

Fred Astaire’s famous ceiling dance: Try this backwards and in high heels, Ginger Rogers!

Are you feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?

Up next… Young and Courageous by Tides of Man

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The Beatles performed before 18,000 fans at the Convention Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey, on August 30, 1964. Among those in attendance were Barry's aunt, Carole Hummel, and family friends Carol "Cris" Crisafulli Johnson, Joan Bacon, and Marie Falzone. Despite the fact that Barry has been a huge Beatles fan since high school, he finally found out about this while discussing our recent Tripping Walruses episode with his aunt!

The night before the concert, they stayed at the Lafayette Motel. At 2:15 PM, they left in the back of a fish truck, and a short distance from the Convention Hall, they switched to their waiting tour bus.

The Beatles performed their standard 12-song set: Twist And Shout, You Can’t Do That, All My Loving, She Loves You, Things We Said Today, Roll Over Beethoven, Can’t Buy Me Love, If I Fell, I Want To Hold Your Hand, Boys, A Hard Day’s Night, and Long Tall Sally.

After the show, The Beatles left the venue in a laundry truck, as their limousine was too conspicuous. That night, they stayed at the Marquis De Lafayette Hotel in nearby Cape May, where they stayed for a few days prior to their September 2nd concert in Philadelphia.

During their stay in Atlantic City, John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote two songs for the Beatles For Sale album: Every Little Thing and What You’re Doing.

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Barry and Abigail discuss Magical Mystery Tour by The Beatles and sample a flight of four beers (Hound of Hades, Rudy Red Grapefruit Tartlets, Ever Haze, and Bandido) from Tripping Animals Brewing in Doral, Florida.

Many thanks to Ignacio Montenegro, owner and CMO of Tripping Animals Brewing, for speaking with us and for allowing us to invade the taproom for an afternoon!

You can follow Tripping Animals Brewing on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter and see their fantastic can art on their website.

Did Paul McCartney really die in 1966? The history of the conspiracy theory by Vinyl Rewind

Read “Vicissitudes: Uncle Bugsy’s Crazy Writers Club,” and see if you can find the clues to Steve Moore’s fascinating disappearance!

Watch “An Apple for the Profs” and learn how The Beatles plagiarized two young Oxford students who could never seem to get their day in court!

Up next… Off to the Races by Jukebox the Ghost

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In one of the greatest twists of our fledgling podcast, members of The Procession (Paul Zawacki, John Schreffler Jr., and Greg Jong) joined Barry and Abigail for a reunion interview to set the record straight after all of the wild speculation from the last episode, “Musique Marécageuse.”

The interview covers the origin story of the band, their ill-fated tour, their amicable break-up, their current projects, and most importantly, some possible future plans!

Paul, John, and Greg covered a lot of ground. Here are links to just some of the many topics we covered:

A Dozen Let Downs by The Procession
Paul and John’s first band, Gordon Bennett
John’s MCU Wiki page
John’s recording studio, Fort Wolf Studios
Greg’s portfolio

Other bands featuring members of The Procession:

Shooter Jennings (John)
John's solo album, Broken Bravado
Pure Reason Revolution (Greg) - The Dark Third, Eupnea

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Barry and Abigail discuss Musique Magnifique by The Procession and sample three beers (Low Tide, Petal Power, and Hop Stuff) from Swamp Head Brewery in Gainesville, Florida.

J. Paul Zawacki, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker and a clinical instructor at the Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California.

John F. Schreffler Jr. appeared as himself on an episode of The Punisher.

Greg Jong works in custom music composition, sound branding and songwriting.

Up next… Magical Mystery Tour by The Beatles

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This podcast was the result of a long discussion during the pandemic. There was a lot of talk, but no action. So, Barry bought the basic gear required to record a simple podcast, and wrapped it up for Abigail for Christmas in 2020.

During that holiday break, Barry and Abigail put the equipment together to test it, and recorded a brief sample podcast to see if they thought it was worth pushing forward. Today, as a bonus episode, we are going to share that original recording!

Barry and Abigail rank their top five R.E.M. albums and share their favorite song from each album. Guess what! We have similar taste in music! We also taste Bubba Shet from Royal Palm Brewing Company in Royal Palm Beach, Florida and hear the long-awaited answer to the question “When did Barry first hear of R.E.M.?”.

Check out the playlist of Barry’s and Abigail’s favorite songs from their favorite R.E.M. albums!

Find out how Little Black Submarines by The Black Keys came up in the podcast!

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Barry and Abigail discuss Darkness on the Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen and sample a flight of four beers (The Jerkmaker, James’ Brown, Date Night 2021, and A Bit of a Thickie) from Blackadder Brewing Company in Gainesville, Florida.

Bruce appeared on the covers of both Time and Newsweek in the same week!

Tired of heading to the factory everyday? Check out 9 to 5 by Dolly Parton and (Meet the) Flintstones by Bruce Springstone.

Check out Abigail’s favorite Springsteen album, Magic, and one of Barry’s favorite Springsteen albums, The Wild, the Innocent, & The E Street Shuffle!

Other Springsteen songs that came up during this episode: 4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy), Born to Run, Rosalita (Come Out Tonight), Terry’s Song, Born in the U.S.A., Backstreets, Wild Billy’s Circus Story

See the setlist from Springsteen's show in Sunrise, Florida, on May 2, 2008.

Up next… Musique Magnifique by The Procession

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Barry and Abigail discuss Concentrate by The Happy Fits and sample three beers (Pineapple Piff, Conflicted Emotions, and Vibrant) from Tuckahoe Brewing Company in Egg Harbor Township, New Jersey.

Check out the official videos for Achey Bones and Grow Back.

Watch 2CELLOS rock Welcome to the Jungle, just because you need to see it!

Up next… Darkness on the Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen

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Barry and Abigail discuss Band on the Run by Paul McCartney and Wings and sample a flight of four beers (Cream of the Crop, Blue Jersey, Nor’easter, and Mexican Hot Chocolate Stout) from Garden State Beer Company in Galloway, New Jersey.

Many thanks to the owners and staff of Garden State Beer Company, including Bryan and Jen Saul, Adam Curnow, Carisa Stairs, and Chad Roberts, for speaking with us and for allowing us to invade the taproom for an afternoon!

You can follow Garden State Beer Company on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, but unfortunately not on TikTok (yet!).

Chad Roberts’ The Back-40 airs lives on Sundays from 12:00 - 2:00 PM Eastern time on Spirit of Resistance Radio.

The Paul McCartney World Tour after the release of Flowers in the Dirt was documented in the live album Tripping the Live Fantastic (which includes The Fool on the Hill).

Ho Hey by The Lumineers

“A Mackintosh (abbreviated as mac) is a form of waterproof raincoat, first sold in 1824, made out of rubberised fabric.” (Wikipedia)

Dustin Hoffman challenged Paul McCartney to write a song about Picasso’s last words.

Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey by Paul McCartney

Vintage Clothes by Paul McCartney

FourFiveSeconds by Rihanna, Kanye West, Paul McCartney

The Paul McCartney Project

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Barry and Abigail discuss Days Are Gone by HAIM and sample three seasonal beers (Passing Lane, Jolly Jingle Juice, and Pineapple Man) from Sailfish Brewing Company in Fort Pierce, Florida.

The Steps by HAIM

Lights of Home by U2

My Lights of Home 5 (mashup of the studio versions My Song 5 by HAIM and Lights of Home by U2, paired with video from live performances by HAIM and U2)

HAIM - Summer Girl on Song Exploder

Up next… Band on the Run by Paul McCartney and Wings

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In part 2 of our pilot episode, Barry and Abigail speak “comprehensively and encyclopedically” about the next six albums in R.E.M.’s catalog, based on a challenge from R U Talkin’ R.E.M. RE: ME?, and taste Mahogany Tiger from Odd Breed Wild Ales in Pompano Beach, Florida.

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For the real music nerds among you, we have compiled full playlists for all of the albums and the three-track “sandwiches” we discussed:

Collapse Into the (Full) Catalog - Barry’s Picks

Collapse Into the (Full) Catalog - Abigail’s Picks

Collapse Into the Catalog Sandwiches - Barry’s Picks

Collapse Into the Catalog Sandwiches - Abigail’s Picks

R.E.M - Try Not to Breathe on Song Exploder

Up next… Days Are Gone by HAIM

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In part 1 of our pilot episode, Barry and Abigail speak “comprehensively and encyclopedically” about the first six albums in R.E.M.’s catalog, based on a challenge from R U Talkin’ R.E.M. RE: ME?, and taste Embla from Odd Breed Wild Ales in Pompano Beach, Florida.

For the real music nerds among you, we have compiled full playlists for all of the albums and the three-track “sandwiches” we discussed:

Collapse Into the (Full) Catalog - Barry’s Picks

Collapse Into the (Full) Catalog - Abigail’s Picks

Collapse Into the Catalog Sandwiches - Barry’s Picks

Collapse Into the Catalog Sandwiches - Abigail’s Picks

Watch Abigail learn how to walk to the tune of one of R.E.M.’s “dumb pop songs.”

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Welcome to the Pops on Hops Podcast, where we listen to some pops, drink a little hops, and Abigail Hummel gets to hang out with her pop, Barry Hummel! Each episode, one of us will bring a musical question to the table, and the other will bring a selection of beers from a craft brewery of their choice. Our goal is to discover new or old music that we love that we may have missed out on due to the generational divide between us, all while sharing some delicious craft beer along the way.

Our first episode will drop Friday, March 5th at popsonhopspod.com or wherever fine podcasts are found! Future episodes will release every other Friday.

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