Does it Hurt When You Do That? Don't Do That.: Recent Episodes

Joana Joy

Does it hurt when you do that? Don’t do that.

It seems simple, yet the human experience is more complex than that. There are things that hurt that we should do..like jogging or having deep exposing conversations with family members to set boundaries..... And things that hurt that we probably shouldn’t do, but do...like refusing self-compassion, and putting our fingers in the toaster.

Comedian, yoga teacher, psychology and philosophy student Joana Joy interviews creatives, practitioners, athletes and thinkers about what keeps them optimised.. basically how they do or don’t do things that hurt. Through long form, authentic and engaging conversation, we deconstruct the habits, learnings and motivations of these people. She zooms in on their stories and experiences and zooms out on their perspectives to look at the world, what hurts that we should or shouldn’t do. With an eclectic mix of experience working in the arts, mental health, wellness and education industries, host Joana Joy is an uplifting, insightful and authentic voice to ask the questions listeners want to know, admit when she doesn't know, and have fun in the process of figuring it out.

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George Fowler known by his stage name Hugo Grrrl, is a kiwi drag king, comedian, and cabaret producer. He won the inaugural season of House of Drag, and was the first drag king and first trans man to compete on a drag reality show. 

He talks about his physical pain of recovering from top surgery- having titties removed. We talk about theatre, art, burn out, call out vs call in culture and the tv show my strange addiction. It’s generally just a good chat with a really blunt and rad person. 

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@hugogrrrl

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doesithurthwhenyouthat@gmail.com

@doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

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Annie Carter is the bomb. A conscious business owner of Eve Studio which is a yoga, dance, fitness and life studio in Melbourne. She is a yoga practitioner, leader and podcaster. She shares how she is someone who values bringing women and people together, sees the best in them and invites them to the front. 

We talk about women being in competition with each other, comparison, celebration, negative self talk, meditation, acceptance and the importance of trash talking whilst playing table tennis.

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Follow Annie: @_anniecarter

Eve Studio: @evestudio

Yes You Podcast: https://www.anniecarter.com.au/yesyoupodcast

Follow and write to JJ @doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

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Leo Murray is the founder of socio-ecological enterprise, Why Waste. They see our socio-economic systems as an ecosystem, we can approach resilience and regeneration the same way that nature does. He is a changemaker, Wormillionaire, creator and vibe architect. 

He talks about his relationship with his mother and draws parallels to humanities relationship with nature, that we are angry teenagers. We talk worms, the worm, how nature is a whole-archy, not hierarchy, eurocentrism, understanding feedback and crying. 

Follow Leo : @whywastenz

Follow and write to JJ :@doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

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Leo mentions the book Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PZMGYPqs0Q

and an Eisenhower Decision Matrix.

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Dr Sheila Nguyen is the CEO for Sports Environment Alliance Inc, an NGO that uses the much loved culture that is sport to raise awareness, share knowledge and support action to protect our planet, because #noplanetnoplay. In this chat Sheila, a rad optimist and realist, shares how she is someone who grew up as a city rat, seeking to be a country mouse.  We talk about people pleasing, xenophobia, what the pandemic has done for stranger connection, how to make change and all of the t-shirt slogans we want to make. #RTP #yinyanging  

Follow Sports Environment Alliance Inc @sea_thechange

Follow/ write to me: doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

@doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

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I am so stoked we have reached 10 episodes, and might have a wee break for a bit. Thank you everyone for the support and getting onboard the pod thus far. 

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Hello Legends! This week's episode is a solo one where JJ gushes over the feedback, reflects on episodes so far and shares her insights into meditation. Hear how meditation improves attention, stress relief, perspective of time, productivity, sleep, habits, relationships and gives self-compassion. JJ gives her lovely quirky analogies to make meditation appealing, and there is a short guided meditation at the end.

Write to her about what you have been doing or not doing that hurts:

doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

@doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

@banana__jolie

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Maud Léger is French holistic therapist & yoga teacher who is studying naturopathy, and a dear friend of mine. In this chat she talks about her experience with an eating disorder, shame, self sabotage and hiding behind wellness to control rather than heal ourselves. Maud speaks openly about her experience with these raw, somewhat heavy things, and I want you to know if you are or have experienced disordered eating, that every case is different, and support is out there- I have included some things which have helped me navigate my stuff around this below. We also talk about inner and outer ecosystems and crying whilst running.

Maud was in her hometown in Northern France and I was on Tainui land in Cambridge, Aotearoa when we recorded this in February. Episode was edited in my isolation inspiration station on Wurundjeri Land in Naarm, Melbourne, Australia.

Follow Maud @maudiswell

@enaccord

Write to JJ through @doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont or doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

and follow @banana__jolie for more of JJ's stuff.


Resources

Helpline Australia 1300 111 500, NZ 0800 LIFELINE

Food Psyc podcast: https://christyharrison.com/foodpsych

Amazing episode of Yes You, by soon to be guest on the podcast, Annie Carter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6AG8NONJE0uyG0cxNhqHGy?si=PCl03aDzTwWiDwsYWePu4w&dl_branch=1

Following all things @iweigh with Jameela Jamil

Maud and JJ talk briefly about Vedic/ Transcendental meditation

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Sam O’Sullivan is a gentle soul who is driven by his values of compassion and mental health. He is a clinical psychologist for Clearhead, wellbeing coordinator for The Learning Environment, which is a  living campus at Piwakawaka farm that offers eco courses that heal, inspire, and develop capacity for personal and collective resilience. I met him whilst he was shooting the third season of Tough Talk, a docoseries where he travels to rural places in NZ talking to mostly men about masculinity.

In the episode we talk about values, failure, perceptions of masculinity, therapy, vulnerability and how to courageously have hard conversations and ducks who can change gender.

Follow Sam's work

@toughtalknz

www.toughtalk.nz

www.thelearningenvironment.nz

write to Joana Joy @banana__jolie

doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

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Nikita 雅涵 Tu-Bryant is Taiwan-born Aotearoa (NZ) based Artist. Known for fronting psychedelic-pop trio • KITA • , Nikita has worked in theatre and film as an actor, writer, and composer. She’s an all round shredder. In this episode, she talks about how she aims to live in a way that is artful and mindful, without a back up plan, learnings of hope, her relationship with herself, with self-deprecation, alcohol, learning from childhood trauma, artistic process, positive change. She gives her perspective of her experience of taiwanese cultural norms for females and also her experience of racism in NZ. This is a juicy episode where we also laugh out loud and talk about falling in love with yourself and karaoke with 'Combat Dan' at 4am.

Follow Nikita and listen to her music:

@nikita_tu_bryant

@kitasoundz

Write to me doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

Follow podcast @doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont and podcast host JJ @banana__jolie

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This week's solo episode dives into the mailbag. JJ shares one way she navigates imposter syndrome, standing up to her inner meanie and how going with what is obvious can be enough. 

Write to JJ: doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com

Follow @doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

@banana__jolie

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Craig Spence is a senior software engineer for Spotify and a JavaScript/Front-end Developer. Craig and I have been friends since I kicked his dad in the goolies at Craig’s 6th birthday party in 1995. In this chat we had back in January,  he shares himself as a work in progress: developing more mindful awareness about the world, his mental health and how he treats his body. We talk about workaholic tendencies when you have a fun job, job vs identity vs values, COVID, capitalism, drinking water, incremental change and Bridgerton. 

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@phenomenomenal

Write to JJ on insta, FB

@doesithurtwhenyoudothat_dont

or doesithurtwhenyoudothat@gmail.com about the things you get from this episode, and what you have or haven't been doing that hurt. 

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Tariro Mavondo is a Zimbabwean born multi-disciplinary storyteller, theatre maker, cultural diversity and performance facilitator across performing arts, education, government, mental health and social justice spheres. She's acted with Australia’s theatre companies MTC, STC, Bell Shakespeare, been on tv and won a bunch of awards for her spoken word as well. In this chat she shares what it is to be a curbside photographer, in a process of becoming, how sound and our senses shape our experience. We talk about race, the body, blissing out on life and how humans are soup. Recorded in lockdown 6 on Wurundjuri Land, Melbourne Australia. 

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@tariro.mavondo

www.westernedge.org.au

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Zoee Marsh is an Australian born creative, choreographer, director and movement coach who works across the music, film, tv, theatre, fashion, advertising and community industries. In this insightful chat we had back in February we talk about her relationship with her career and her creativity, what distraction tells us and how to feed the body as a toolkit. She shares her wonderful perspectives on time, boundaries, unlearning and staring at the moon.  Follow Zoee @zoeemoves

www.zoeemarsh.com

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Welcome the very first sizzle, taster episode of the podcast. I am so excited that you are here! In this episode I (Joana Joy (JJ) introduce and explain the poddie's origin story, myself, and give you a taste of what is to come. You'll hear a story of what happened at the Vegan Vibes festival and about how telling everyone that you are starting a podcast means you actually have to do it. I have overcome imposter and impasta syndromes to bring this to you, so if you like it, tell a friend! x