Women's Words: Recent Episodes
Thriver
Change the conversation about abuse and healing. Create space for women to be seen and heard. We are all living downstream from a multitude of stories, themes and ideas that are harmful to women. Some of these are cultural and some religious, and of course there are a lot of intersections between the two. Together, we want to challenge the forces that have been pushing women into this stream. Join us as we speak, listen and talk about what matters. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thriverwomenswords/support
My friend Theunette, although a finance professional, loves space. She reads "Scientific American" for fun, and I love hearing her talk about how stars are formed and other similar subjects. Some of our conversations about these topics have then flowed into rich discussions about the meaning of life, and healing. These talks almost always make me grab around for poetry that I've encountered; which comes the closest of anything(because words start to fail us, the deeper we go into some concepts) to beingable to describe ... wordless wonder.
Art “goes there,” like that.
It is able like nothing else, to embody and express the deepest truths.
Enjoy, as we explore together. Talking in this way is one of my favorite things. A creation in itself, these conversations.
Alllll the Show Notes (quite a few this time) -->
"The Man," song by Taylor Swift
Such Singing in theWild Branches [excerpt] by Mary Oliver
Winter Poem byNikki Giovanni
Excerpt of “It’s strange about stars” from Sun Up byLola Ridge
What We Need Is Hereby Wendell Berry
[Poems gleaned from the Colorado Vocal Arts Ensemble Wintersong concert in Colorado Springs, Colorado, December 2023]
“At some point in life the world's beauty becomes enough. You don't need to photograph, paint, or evenremember it. It is enough.” ― Toni Morrison
“If you surrendered to the air, you could ride it.” ― Toni Morrison, Song of Solomon
“Beauty was not simply something to behold; it was something one could do.” ― Toni Morrison, The Bluest Eye
“All water has a perfect memory andis forever trying to get back to where it was.” ― Toni Morrison
{The movie character of "Olaf" in Frozen}
Psalm 136.9 (from the Bible, my own personalized version)
When they saw the star, the sight filled them with intense joy.
Matthew 2.10 (Bible - Weymouth New Testament version)
Additional quotes from:
"On the Origin of Time: Stephen Hawking’s Final Theory,"by Thomas Hertog
"Astrophysics for People In A Hurry," by Neil deGrasseTyson
[Recorded at Studio916 PPLD in Colorado Springs on February 24, 2024 with Theunette Antill, Heila Rogers]
We talk about CONO: Building Neighborhood Networks - Sara is ED, and what more neighborhood connections through art could look like; her jazz pop-ups business, Dizzy Charlie's Live Jazz and why she started it; and "glimmer" experiences with music + community.
He{Art}space's Patreon
Fannie Mae Duncan
Thrive Network
Old Colorado City Partnership
Music Credit:
Getting It Right by Holly Williams
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Recorded at Studio21C February 2, 2024 - Sara Vaas, Heila Rogers
Misconceptions regarding trauma: My thoughts. People think it's rare, that it's not applicable to them, that words don't matter only war experiences, that someone can't be in a crisis and also confident. What is, "little t" and "big T" trauma? The concept of Trauma Chemo -- and healing from adverse life experiences. The results of rewarding dominance and narcissism in our society. How addiction recovery can mean new neural pathways. What He{Art}space is for.
He{Art}space's Patreon
(artist Thomas Kinkaide)
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Getting It Right by Holly Williams & Electric Island by All Good Folks
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Although we hope it is helpful and inspiring, the information contained in this podcast is for generalized educational purposes and/or is the expression of opinion only. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical advice or services. Please seek out appropriate professional support if needed.
Recorded 10/26/23 Heila Rogers
We discuss how anger is a reasonable response to being hurt and also a necessary part of the healing process. How we learned to identify, feel and express it (and other feelings) appropriately and safely. Realizing we're not a bad person for having anger. The relationship of anger to grief. When Jesus was angry. Judging others' anger. Recognizing wrong. Physical movement to release old feelings.
Hiding our true selves in different ways. Continuing to seek authentic connection; and addressing our own old psychological programming.
Mentions:
Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, by Emily Nagoski, PhD, Amelia Nagoski, DMA
Peter Levine books
Trümmerfrauen: The women who cleared the rubble
No No No (song) Cherokee Death Cats
The Body Keeps The Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma, by Bessel Van Der Kolk
The ACES quiz (Adverse Childhood Experiences)
Mackenzie Morrison story
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Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916 piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope."
Music Credit:
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(Recorded June 4, 2022) Jules Thompson, Heila Rogers
This podcast is simply people talking. It’s peoplelistening well to each other and having true conversation. It is not a substitute for any professional advice.
We discuss what is defined as “masculine” and what as “feminine” in our society. And we talk about balance in life – what balance means in a healthy relationship. And what balance has to do with dance.
Thanks to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the intro piano music.
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This episode contains a reference to suicide. If you needhelp, please reach out. You are not alone. The 988 Lifeline is available by call or text 24/7.
What is it like to change for the better as a person, and then have society still try to stuff you back into a "perpetrator" box?
We want to turn the tide from accusation and shaming, to mutual, widespread restoration.
"This world is beautiful... We're here temporarily, what can we do to (make it better)." - CC
Building versus Destroying
Getting along as women and men, together. Related harmful gender-related messages.
Talking about sexual abuse; talking about everything in order to bring subjects into the light.
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu, created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope.”
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Gabrielle Simmons is a current real-estate investor, and a former over-the-road truck driver. Plus, she is a survivor of a mutually-toxic relationship in which she hastens to add she was not guiltless herself. We talk about what itmeans to have choice and freedom in relationships; women getting shit done; and what driving the truck was like, and how those many miles on the highwayalone played a part in her emotional and relational healing journey. The fears instilled in women and girls; how we can live fearless, safely. And where responsibility for this safety lies. The "why" of Women's Words. How there is no freedom without choice -- what is real bonding & connection.
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Mentions:
@InvestorGirlBritt
Sisters of Benet Hill Monastery human trafficking prevention & awareness
Music Credits:
Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):
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Terryjosiah Sharpe – original piano composition and performance for Women's Words, “Chaos & Hope”
Recorded on Sept. 16, 2022 at Pikes Peak Library District Studio 21c
(Heila Rogers, Gabrielle Simmons)
Heila Update (for 2023): (I'm) Still Here
A heartfelt message from me, after a long time away (forunexplained, but important reasons) from the podcast. Re-visiting the impetus behind this effort and the importance of having and publicizing these conversations. The vital function of talking soul-to-soul and heart-to-heart; and the way having more of these kinds of conversations – about gender roles, inequality, the light of truth, and increased freedom in relationships - can change the world. Your engagement in this process is part of the whole.I mention TV shows below which contribute to ongoing societal conversations we’re collectively having about these and related subjects – and which include the all-important humor element. All forms of art (including television and poetry) can provide crucial life insight.
I end with this poem by Edith Södergran:
Forest Lake
I was alone on a sunny shore
by the forest’s pale blue lake,
in the sky floated a single cloud
and on the water a single isle.
The ripe sweetness of summer dripped
in beads from every tree
and straight into my opened heart
a tiny drop ran down.
Translated from Swedish by Stina Katchadourian
TV shows:
Ted Lasso
Shrinking
UnPrisoned
Abbott Elementary
(Recorded 6/23 at PPLD Studio21c - Heila Rogers)
Jules is a major Wonder Woman-fangirl which we talk about – a speaker, and a writer. Her multi-authored collaborative book, Uncovering the Brave Within: Vulnerable Stories from Female Impact Leaders came out in paperback in March of 2023.
We talk about some of her journey of the last few years, discovering herself, unburying her real identity and separating it from messages received in an abusive family of origin and an abusive marriage. We talk about digging deep into past pain in order to root it out, feel it, and express the related feelings – sometimes even in public.
We discuss more about what it means to, “Do the work."
And that without good relationship attachment we will die.
Show Notes:
Wonder Woman movie (2017)
Gabor Maté
This Is Me (musical) Keala Settle behind-the-scenes video
Jules Thompson on Facebook
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us at PPLD's Studio916 piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope."
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(Recorded June 4, 2022) Jules Thompson, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker
This podcast is simply people talking. It’s peoplelistening well to each other and having true conversation. It is not a substitute for any professional advice.
Lacie Phillips has a degree from Dallas Theological Seminary, and freely admits she is a Bible Nerd whom loves to bring people – and specifically women – together to study that book theoretically,application-wise and historically. She is also a disability advocate and amputee, all of which we touch on briefly in this episode, including the way we peopletend to “other” others.
We discuss how we can be both helpers and helpees (at the same time) in a healthy relational way. And how we can pursue rest in the face of “be productive” guilt messages.
We talk about how Jesus is (like a) Gardener, and how gardening is a metaphor for balanced relationships based on personhood instead of hierarchy.
Mentions:
Babe (movie)
"Such love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have not fully experienced [God's] perfect love." 1 John 4:18 NLT Bible
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener." John 15:1 NLT Bible
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." John 15:1-5 ESV Bible
Sit Still, Look Pretty - Daya (song)
Quiet - Milck (song)
Beth Moore’s Twitter
The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth, by Beth Allison Barr (the first book discussion group)
The In-Between Place: Where Jesus Changes Your Story, by Kat Armstrong
"Yes, and I ask you, my true companion, help these women since they have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel..." Phlippians 4:3a NIV Bible
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https://twitter.com/LacieSheree
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(Recorded May 17, 2022) Lacie Phillips, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker
We talk about:
The roadblocks to women getting together and really talking. Both the value and the difficulty of that happening, at all.
How do we have healthy relationships when we haven't experienced them?
Building an empire of Good.
An article interviewing Claudia.
"Higher Power" and why it's important to have one.
We're all 'in process.' All in this (life) together.
Time doesn't heal everything -- it's what you do with the time.
"Struggle is struggle and pain is pain." -CC
Productive tears that are a release of stuck grief.
It's important to feel all the emotions and know why we feel that way = a part of being fully human.
Reaching out & trust issues.
The message: "Get over it, you're not a victim."
Nobody owes us anything; we don't need to put our problems on other people.
Remembering the (helpers) in our own lives.
Feeling alone as the human condition.
I've learned to say less...
Forgiving ourselves.
SHAME v. guilt
Being afraid of the outcome, if put good knowledge to use.
Related: taking on and ingesting pervasive, limiting societal messages.
Allowing space for people to admit wrongdoing.
Overall, this is an episode full of hope and mutual encouragement.
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us at PPLD'sStudio916, piano music in our intro - entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope."
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(Recorded 2022) Claudia Contreras, Heila Rogers
The information contained in this podcast is for generalized educational purposes only. None of the contents of these conversations should be interpreted as individual professional advice. This content is not a substitute for any professional or medical services.
RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. RAINN created and operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline (800.656.HOPE,online.rainn.org y rainn.org/es)
ATSA (Association for the Treatment & Prevention of Sexual Abuse) "Creating a world where ending sexual violence is a shared responsibility and an achievable goal. ATSA champions research and treatment, informs public policy, and advocates for best practice.
Together, we can shift narratives on preventing sexual abuse perpetration."
A different take with additional thoughts, on the 2017 Wonder Woman movie; before we dig in to how to respond (or not) to mansplaining -- and how “finding your core” and having "relational bubbles" relates to that…
Mentions:
A Handmaid’s Tale – tv series and book
People not welcome in the outdoors (article)
J Lo & Shakira’s halftime show
Anjuli's book: “Resilient As F*ck: Cultivating Resiliency In Your Everyday Life”
Music:
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Terryjosiah Sharpe impromptu-composed and played the intro piano music at PPLD Studio916 for Women's Words, entitled "Chaos & Hope."
(Recorded 2022) Anjuli Kapoor, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker
We talk with Kristen Faith Sharpe of Boss Babe Networking & the Nonprofit Makeover about vulnerability, what it means to “do the work.” And searching for, reaching out for, and stepping into finding help (therapy) for the helpers and leaders.
There is a lot of good food for thought here – especially in regards to the themes of: women coming together, the myth of the perfect victim, media representation of domestic violence, power differentials in abuse, and what it takes to leave an abusive relationship.
[I am sorry that my voice is louder than the others in this episode -- a result of editing/recording issues. The content is still worth the listen even with the need to perhaps adjust volume controls. Also the audio in this one has different pauses. Again, a minor variation and the conversation is worth getting used to the different sound. HR]
Mentions:
“This Changes Everything” documentary
The Bechdel test: The Bechdel test is a measure of the representation of women in film and other forms of fiction.
The Morning Show (TV show)
www.kristenfaith.com
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(Recorded May 11, 2022 - Kristen Faith Sharpe, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker)
In this episode, Tiffany Gunter, an award-winningToastmasters-speaker-extraordinaire, actor and poet, and I, Heila Rogers, the wannabe Barbara Walters -- but in my own way, talk about how women’s enforced invisibility in society compares to the former Soviet Union’s efforts to over-convince people of the non-existence of God.
How women have been "erased" from existence.
How do we hear someone well, when they tell us they're in an abusive relationship? How do we "judge for truth" in that case?" What is someone's "truth?"
Join us as we explore answers in conversation.
Mentions:
Illustrator Ruth Krauss
Florence Nightingale
Big Eyes movie
Anonymous Was A Woman
Ada Twist: Scientist (book)
Ada Lovelace: Poet & Scientist
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Thank you to Terryjosiah Sharpe for the impromptu created-especially-for-us piano music in our intro entitled by him, “Chaos & Hope.”
*This podcast is simply people talking. It is peoplelistening well to each other and having conversation. It is not a substitute for any professional advice.
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(Recorded February 19, 2022)
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The ‘I don’t understand game’ & willful incompetence as an abusive tactic. Autonomy & faith -- & each person’s individual relationship with God/the Divine/a Higher Power. Honest searching for truth, honest exploration, versus anarchy. “On whose authority are you doing this?” "He didn’t want me if he couldn’t control me." Versus real relationship that works because there’s freedom. Mistakes are proof that you’re trying.
God as Male (pronouns used in churches) – and being painfully excluded from relating to God & a sense of belonging because of a lack of representation.
Why is it that the most powerful Being has to be male?
A sense of the eternal & we people as eternal beings.
God as a warm, tender, gentle Mother and a safe place/relationship.
People judging who/what God is. "I get to decide, and it's MY SAY. What I say, goes."
Who’s in charge? If you’re asking this in terms of a relationship then you’re missing out on a possible rejuvenative intimacy.
How surrender is beautiful but messy, like artwork.
(Recorded 2/26/22) Heila Rogers, Jennifer Decker
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We launch right in to discussing heightened topics: including SUBMISSION.
Jenny talks about her upbringing in a Brethren Assembly which she defines as a very uber-conservative church structure that teaches and emphasizes, “Men in charge and women obey.”
We talk about what we think submission really means. And how it relates to all relationships.
And speaking of Disney Princesses... (which we weren't here haha, but we do segue into it on the episode)
“Beauty is there, getting abused … but then she acts so beautiful and so perfect & eventually he sees… (the Beast) … She tames the Beast with her codependence … She bows to his demands & then magically he transforms into a Prince… This is why we don’t ask women, ‘why did you stay?' …Because we’ve been teaching them since they were born: to stay.”
Codependency and blaming the victim.
Overspiritualization of abuse; how we fool ourselves into sacrificing ourselves for another’s ego or demands. Related: one-sided work that women undertake to “fix a relationship.”
“The antidote to over-spiritualization is to believe behavior.”
How men operating in narcissism pick strong women and then gain strength from cutting them down.
How feelings and “being sensitive” makes us human.
Definitions:
Disassociation or Dissociation - Dissociation is an adaptive response to threat and is a form of “freezing.” It is a strategy that our brain often uses when the option of fighting or fleeing is not an option. We shut down to draw less attention to ourselves, or in extreme cases play dead by leaving our body and mentally and emotionally shutting down. It is important to know that dissociation is a normal response in the face of trauma.
It is also useful to note that many people oscillate between being hyper-aroused and dissociating. Both experiences stem from the same part of the brain (limbic system) that is not settled and perceives current experiences through a distorted lens of a past trauma.
Excellent article on healing dissociation and reconnecting to one's body on the CPTSD foundation site here.
Mentions:
Song with Snow White and the 7 Dwarves: Daya - Sit Still, Look Pretty
“Submission” reference to Leslie Vernick’s book: The Emotionally Destructive Marriage
Bible reference:
New International Version
His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” John 9:2
(Recorded 2/26/22) Jennifer Decker, Heila Rogers
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We talk about why it means so much that this podcast is called Women’s Words. How women have been silenced both literally and figuratively in the church, and some examples of that. Jodie is a teaching pastor and speaker extraordinaire with a strong drive for healing from all kinds of abuse, including spiritual or religious.
We discuss victim/reporting-party blaming & victim self-blaming. How amazing and capable children are. What, "letting your anger go" means. How to not become, or continue being, the abuser.
If you're part of the Church or a similar organization you'll find essential conversation here as to how to respond to people in the aforementioned situations.
We talk about trauma counseling and its relationship to spiritual help, and briefly discuss what “trauma-informed" means.
Mentions ~
Songs: No Man Is Big Enough for My Arms by Ibeyi (Naomi & Lisa-Kaindé Diaz), Brave by Sara Bareilles
Book: Think Like A Monk: Train Your Mind for Peace & Purpose Everyday by Jay Shetty
[The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed on this podcast are the speakers' own. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. Mentions do not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service.]
(Recorded 3/23/22) Jodie Austin, Jennifer Decker, Heila Rogers
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This one is fast, dense, and intense. Join us as we talk about…
Forced forgiveness.
… encouraging anger in relation to forgiveness.
Acknowledging ‘signal anger,’ in relation to each of our God-given dignity. How we feel angry for a reason when our boundaries are crossed. How women are expected to be receivers only. You’ll be surprised (or not) what the latin word for vagina means.
How “clean” anger causes movement, agency or action. How using it to propel us forward and out of abuse is crucial. How reconciliation takes two and should necessarily skew towards the one who ‘broke the relationship.' How we’re all conditioned to believe women are less competent than men … and more.
Betrayal Trauma definition: "Betrayal trauma is the result of the violation of a deep attachment, where there has been abuse or neglect of an individual who depends on that attachment for their safety and well-being."
Betrayal Trauma occurs most commonly from:
- Child abuse- including physical, sexual abuse, and emotional abuse (e.g., manipulation, gaslighting, verbal abuse, etc.)
- Partner Betrayal- a partner has an affair or lies to you about something significant in your relationship (money, sexual addiction, etc.)
Betrayal trauma differs vastly from other types of trauma because it involves not just the experience of abuse but also the experience of being betrayed by a key relationship, such as a parent, caregiver, guardian, significant other, or other individual who is relied upon for support and safety.
Source: www.mindwellnyc.com
(Also see definitions for: Complex Trauma C-PTS(D) for further understanding.)
Mentions ~
Traveling Mercies & Plan B: Further Thoughts on Faith (forgiveness) by Anne Lamott. Nadia Bolz-Weber (forgiveness). Waking the Tiger by Peter Levine (releasing trauma stored in the body)
(Recorded 2/26/22) Jennifer Decker, Heila Rogers
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We talk about why it means so much that this podcast is called Women’s Words. How women have been silenced both literally and figuratively in the church, and some examples of that. Jodie is a teaching pastor and speaker extraordinaire with a strong drive for healing from all kinds of abuse, including spiritual or religious.
We discuss victim/reporting-party blaming & victim self-blaming. How amazing and capable children are. What, "letting your anger go" means. How to not become, or continue being, the abuser.
If you're part of the Church or a similar organization you'll find essential conversation here as to how to respond to people in the aforementioned situations.
We talk about trauma counseling and its relationship to spiritual help, and briefly discuss what “trauma-informed" means.
Mentions ~
Songs: No Man Is Big Enough for My Arms by Ibeyi (Naomi & Lisa-Kaindé Diaz), Brave by Sara Bareilles
Book: Think Like A Monk: Train Your Mind for Peace & Purpose Everyday by Jay Shetty
[The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed on this podcast are the speakers' own. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. Mentions do not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service.]
(Recorded 3/23/22) Jodie Austin, Jennifer Decker, Heila Rogers
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(Recorded 4/13/22) Judith Piazza, Heila Rogers, Jenny Decker
Judith is a gifted sound healer who brings her heart, talent and experience to this episode. We connect with one another by speaking, hearing and listening about 'tuning in' to truth ... with even more than the five senses; what authentic connection looks like, how 'circle practices' work, what a 'council' gathering is, and more. Judith has trained, practiced and studied music in a connective, restorative way for years including, "indigenous ways of using sound and music for community, for health, for healing, for joy, (for) vitality." Drumming towards the end is a glorious bonus.
www.resonanceandrhythms.com
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(Recorded 2/19/22) Heila Rogers, Tiffany Gunter
In this episode we talk about why some people pressure someone to ‘forgive.’
How people can be shut down with comments like, “My, you’re opinionated!” -- and other similar labels designed to control and silence. We talk about how to respond to someone when they reveal abuse, how not to compare grief & loss and therefore negate someone’s pain, and what real forgiveness looks like.
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Episode 1: (Recorded 2/19/22)
Heila Rogers, Tiffany Gunter
Listen in as we enjoy one another’s company (scoring high on the Bechtel test, although we’re not on film!), laugh about mistakes, continue after correcting them … and just by hitting “record,” validate the importance of one another’s voices.
We talk about the fear of being seen & allowing our voices to be heard.
We discuss the empowerment of climbing trees & introduce two powerful influences for good in our lives, one who loved Barney the purple dinosaur and one who appreciated the play Cyrano de Bergerac. We touch on what it’s like to be labeled and marginalized as women and girls.
(The word we were looking for was counter-cultural.)
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