Deeper Magic: Recent Episodes
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Anna and Peter Kapsner sit in conversation about the failures (and merits) of the church, biblical interpretation, what it means to be a disciple, and the changing shapes of modern Christianity between generations
Anna and Peter talk about the DNA if Deeper Magic and some exciting changes on the horizon
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter reflects with Anna about how much he actually knows about following Jesus.
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"Peter and Anna welcome Annabella into Deeper Magic, a theater major who has lived all around the world and is now faced with big questions of adulting, community, and future decisions.
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Anna and Peter welcome Adam Holz to talk about parenting, Taylor Swift, and Inside Out 2 and what the church can learn from them.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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"Anna takes the host chair and Peter draws on his background in practical theology to passionately defend the idea that though the attack on Trump's life is horrid, our allegiance is not to democrats or republicans….but to Jesus alone.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter makes a critical mistake in a recent sermon about the “angry God” and Anna leads a study on Cain and Abel. (Where did all those extra Bible people that Cain was scared of come from anyway?)
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter makes a critical mistake in a recent sermon about the “angry God” and Anna leads a study on Cain and Abel. (Where did all those extra Bible people that Cain was scared of come from anyway?)
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn
License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles"
Anna graduated from university but now faces the great unknown of adulting and how to live a lifetime with no more benchmarks.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter gave a Good Friday message for the first time in his time in
ministry and tries to tell God's redemptive story from Genesis to the
Cross. Anna takes the host chair (for the first time) to ask him what
felt like a sacred experience.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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This conversation includes some occasional strong language. Listener discretion is advised.
Anna and Peter welcome Anna's university advisor, April Vinding, into Deeper Magic. Anna and April talk about faith & fiction as well as how to bear fruit in our work.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna is back from an academic trip to India and she and Peter talk about an entirely different way of life and faith experienced that is quite different than the Western world.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna has a quick cameo as Peter welcomes pastor Luke Veum to reflect on what it was like to teach about sex in a large group church setting. CONTENT WARNING: May contain material inappropriate for those under 13.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter and Anna dig deeper into the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter and Anna welcome Rebecca Rhee into Deeper Magic to go through the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter and Anna welcome Rebecca Rhee into Deeper Magic to go through the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn
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Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles
Peter and Anna welcome Gary Stratton to Deeper Magic, where they talk about a range of topics including the difference between trusting in God and trusting your ideas about God.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter blows Anna’s mind with his knowledge of transgender influencer Dylan Mulbaney.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna decides what part of Matthew's Gospel Peter should talk about an upcoming University-wide chapel....but only after he is first deeply disappointed by the results of a Gilmore Girls quiz.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter review a church-giving program advertised with a money-back guarantee.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter return for Season Two of Deeper Magic. They discuss what Peter learned on sabbatical about St. Cuthbert's dead body, the power of story, and how hesed love can cure the pervasive anxiety of the age.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Two theater kids join Peter and Anna to discuss playing the role of Jesus and writing a meaningful, but not obviously, Christian play.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter talk about her attending a Harry Styles concert in Scotland and what we can learn about mental health, belonging to God, and ditching a life of comparisons.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions and mentions of suicide.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna takes her first big whack at interpreting the Bible for one of her classes as Peter wants against the dangers of reading one’s own views into Scripture.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter break up in the box on the massive mental health conversation while identifying the categories of questions that need to be asked.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions and mentions of suicide at 6:30
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter are joined once again by rabbis Noah and Holly Ulman. They discuss why spiritual leaders often fail, and the importance of asking questions with humility.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter welcomed Dr. Sue Stratton into Deeper Magic to discuss how God’s original blessing from Genesis One was never revoked.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter welcome Lilli Ellis to Deeper Magic. Lilli currently works in the HQ of a major denomination. The three unwittingly realize that the healing of our society might begin with the healing of female and male relationships.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter release a special Good Friday episode reflecting on Jesus’ humble, loving willingness to die so He could defeat the forces of sin and Hell and bring healing to His beloved children.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter welcome Alicia as a new producer for Deeper Magic. The three discuss Taylor Swift, “bad girls”, and why there is a huge church void for 18-25-year-olds after they are done with Youth Group.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter talk about John Wick 4, therapy, same-gender friendships, and the increasing rejection of Augustinian theology of original sin and depravity in this third installment of the Garden of Eden series.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter talk about her continued car issues, the good and bad of church testimonies, and what I John actually means when it says to not be a “child of the Devil.”
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter welcome Noah and Holly Ulman for part two of the Garden of Eden series. Turns out Genesis 1 is not about a bunch of animals and a scientific origin story of our world...
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna reflects on her first flat tire before she and Peter share a wee nip of Ben Nevis scotch and discuss their surprising lack of cynicism about the Asbury Blessing.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter talk clubbing, lying to your friends, sabbatical and
maybe the Garden of Eden was never meant to teach us about science.
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Rabbi Alan joins Anna and Peter to talk about the beginning of Scripture and reading it within God's voice.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter discuss Peter’s ADHD in light of “Be Still and Know I am God.”….and how this verse invites us to start with our hearts and not our heads in our relationship with God.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter introduce an upcoming series of spin-off episodes that will look at Hebrew and Greek words that might be helpful for new pictures of God and faith and the spiritual journey.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Anna and Peter reflect on the book, Unapologetic….how the Christian faith is meant to be relationally based and filled with a community of messed up peoples…all with some, ummmm, colorful language.
Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.
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Peter fails a https://www.summit.org/individual-worldview-checkup/ (biblical worldview quiz) and Anna and Peter interview Dr. Josh Packard about rebuilding low trust in the next generation. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles
Anna and Peter talk with buddy Justin Jeppesen about margaritas, discipleship, and the accessibility of God. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles
Anna and Peter talk with Tim Yearsley from the London Institute of Contemporary Christianity about the shape of discipleship in the UK given significant changes in the institutional church there. What might the church in the USA learn? Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles
Anna and Peter talk about Harry Potter, Biblical magic, and the Deeper Magic from Before the Dawn of Time that is accessible in this world.
Anna and Peter discuss hypocrisy, the recent pattern of moral failure among visible ministry leaders, and the theological issue that, if resolved, could help end hypocrisy and lead to restoration. Content Warning: This episode contains discussions about sexual abuse from 24:00-30:00. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturn License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles
Why does the daughter of a “prominent” Christian figure (Dr. Peter Kapsner) refuse to attend church?