DesignOps Island Discs: Recent Episodes

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The podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to help you build the best darn DesignOps practice you possibly can. Hosted by Luke Murphy, design advocate at zeroheight, each episode focuses on a specific part of the DesignOps pie, gaining insight from both established DesignOps practitioners, as well as up and coming DesignOps voices.

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DesignOps Island Discs is a live-recorded, interactive podcast, looking at what's coming up in the world of designops and design systems. For season three, we're focussing on the roles that make up designops and design systems, from content designers to leads to engineers to accessibility specialists to DPMs.

For episode 4, we welcome Sheena Lydon, DPM on Design Systems at Wise. We're going to talk to Sheena about being a DPM... what the essential skills for a DPM are, why they're important, both on product and design system teams, and why designops is hands down the best timeline to live in.

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DesignOps Island Discs is a live-recorded, interactive podcast, looking at what's coming up in the world of designops and design systems. For season three, we're focussing on the roles that make up designops and design systems, from content designers to leads to engineers to accessibility specialists to DPMs. 

For episode 4, we welcome Heydon Pickering, design and engineering consultant, who has worked with Springer Nature, The Paciello Group, BBC, Smashing Mag, and Bulb. We're going to talk to Heydon about being a front-end engineer on design systems... what the challenges are from an engineering point of view with design systems, what makes a good engineer on design systems, and where we need to be heading.

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DesignOps Island Discs is a live-recorded, interactive podcast, looking at what's coming up in the world of designops and design systems. For season three, we're focussing on the roles that make up designops and design systems, from content designers to leads to engineers to accessibility specialists to DPMs. 

For episode three, we welcome (back) Amy Hupe! Amy is a content specialist and design system consultant, having worked on design systems from Springer Nature, to BT, to Babylon Health, to Gov.uk. Luke and Amy chat about what a content specialist actually does, why they're the essential third pillar of a design system, what makes a good design system content person, and some of the things that are exciting Amy about the future of content design in design systems (hello structured content), before answering super interesting questions from the live audience!

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DesignOps Island Discs is a live-recorded, interactive podcast, looking at what's coming up in the world of designops and design systems. For season three, we're focussing on the roles that make up designops and design systems, from content designers to leads to engineers to accessibility specialists to DPMs. For episode two, we welcome Arielle Benedek, one of the Product Managers on Encore, Spotify's design system, on what a product manager on a design system actually does, what the biggest challenges are, how we need to change what we do, and answers a whole bunch of interesting questions from the live audience.

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DesignOps Island Discs is a live-recorded, interactive podcast, looking at what's coming up in the world of designops and design systems. For season three, we're focussing on the roles that make up designops and design systems, from content designers to leads to engineers to accessibility specialists to DPMs. For our first episode, we welcome Geri Reid, lead designer on Newskit, the News UK design system. We'll talk about what a lead designer does in the context of design systems, the challenges, what could change, and when you might think about hiring your first lead designer. 

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Patrizia Bertini, Associate Director of DesignOps at Babylon talks to us about how change management is an essential part of any org change, the benefits of going slow to go fast, how to win over the team with changes in their processes and tooling and why DesignOps at the C suite level.

Patrizia on Twitter

Pat-bertini.medium.com

Lewin's Model of Change

Parov Stelar Discography

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Dan Mall, Creative director and advisor, founder and director of both SuperFriendly and Arcade and design systems extraordinaire talks to us about the collaboration between designers and engineers to hot potatoing between design and development and the shift that is needed in design to better focus on people.

DanMall.me

Dan on Twitter

SuperFriendly

Arcade

Stand By Me, Ben E. King

The Count of Monte Cristo , Alexandre Dumas

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Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, design and developer advocate and co-chair of the design tokens W3C community group, talks to us about the history of design tokens, the standardization of design tokens and the future of DesignOps.

Kaelig.fr

Kaelig on Twitter

Design Tokens W3C Community Group

Pink Floyd, The Wall

Tough Guides: How to Stay Alive on A Desert Island

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Brad Frost, Web Designer, Speaker, Consultant, Writer, Podcast Host and 'Grangfather' of Design Systems and Atomic Design , talks to us about the developer experience in design systems, the tools and processes out there to make design systems easier and what hopefully the future of design systems looks like.

Bradfrost.com

Brad on Twitter

Pattern Lab

Atomic Design

Outkast, Stankonia

The Element, Sir Ken Robinson

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Tim Gilligan, a Chief of Staff at Capital One, talks to us about their journey into their current role, what benefits a Chief of Staff can bring to an org, and what they are excited about the future of DesignOps.

Tim Gilligan

Tim on Twitter

Hundred Days, The Bengsons

A Wrinkle in Time, Madeleine L'Engle

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Jerome de Lafarge, co-founder and CEO at zeroheight talks to us about how to survive in the startup world, where zeroheight came from and where DesignOps is likely headed.

zeroheight.com

Jerome on Twitter

The National

The Three-Body Problem, Cixin Liu

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Laura Kennedy, lead designer on design systems at GoodRx, talks to us about the deprioritisation of a design system, what signs to look for, what to do if it does happen and what lessons were learned for future opportunities.

laura-kennedy.net

Laura on Twitter

Bear Grylls Survival Podcast

The Art Institute of Chicago

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Rogie King, designer advocate at Figma, plugin author and prolific tweeter, talks to us about the power of community and the influence on the design process improvements.

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Rogie's Figma Profile

Rogie on twitter

Figma Plugins: Table Creator, Breakpoints, SkewDat, Image Tracer.

FigJam

Black Tiger Sex Machine, Futuristic Thriller

Salem's Lot, Stephen King

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Chase McCoy, the driving force behind Seeds at Sprout Social, now a product designer at Stripe, talks to us about documentation as knowledge graphs and the future of design systems.

chasem.co

Chase on Twitter

Design systems as knowledge graphs

Seeds - Sprout Social

Frank Ocean, Blonde

Broad Band, Claire L. Evans

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We're back with season two, and this season we're talking to even more DesignOps and design systems folks about the nitty gritty of what good DesignOps is. From the future of design system documentation to design tokens to design pairing, season two is going to tool you up and get you shipshape.

Season Two Episode One will be released at 05:00 GMT on Monday October 11, 2021, with subsequent episodes being released weekly on Mondays, right through to the end of the year.

DesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation company, that allows you to create a central hub for your design system for everyone in your org. You can try zeroheight for free today.

You can also follow me, Luke, on Twitter at @lurkmoophy. Until October 11! Bon voyage!

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Henrique Gusso, principal designer on Design Systems at Wise, talks to us about what goes into building an effective Design Systems team, from team make-up to product management to contribution models.

  • Gusso on Twitter
  • Engineering Lead job at Wise
  • Hercules - Various Artists
  • @horse_ebooks on Twitter

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Amy Hupe, content designer and design systems expert, who has been the driving force behind Design Systems at BT, Babylon Health and gov.uk, talks to us about what goes into building a successful contribution model for your design system.

  • Amyhupe.co.uk
  • Amy on Twitter
  • Gov.uk design system
  • Content by Design conference
  • Sarah Nuefeld - Where the Light Comes In

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Peter Merholz, co-author of Org Design for Design Orgs, consultant, conference speaker, podcaster and all-round great human being, talks to us about how his and Kristin's book was born, what's changed in the last five years, some red flags that your org isn't working and how the concept of org design fits within DesignOps.

  • petermerholz.com
  • Org Design for Design Orgs
  • Peter on Twitter
  • Design at Scale conference
  • Talking Heads - Remain in Light
  • Moby Dick by Herman Melville

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Meredith Black, DesignOps consultant, co-founder of DesignOps Assembly and co-author of The DesignOps Handbook, and who has built and led DesignOps teams at Pinterest, Facebook and IDEO amongst others, talks to us about her journey to DesignOps, where to start when building your DesignOps function and what makes a good DesignOps hire.

  • meredithblackbrant.com
  • DesignOps Assembly

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Harjot Bal, Senior Manager of DesignOps and Design Systems at Appnovation in Toronto, talks to us about his reasons for focussing his UX skills internally, his process for running a DesignOps audit, what he found out of running this at a global agency and how tooling is one of the most important things to look at for the future.

  • Harjot on LinkedIn
  • Harjot.io
  • Appnovation
  • CX North America
  • Robert Greene - The Laws of Human Nature

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Dave Malouf, designer, author, educator and design leader, talks to us about his path to DesignOps, how we should be defining what DesignOps is and the dangers of automation around how "every tool is a weapon if you hold it right".

  • Dave's website
  • Dave on Twitter
  • Dave's writings on Medium
  • U2 - Live From Paris

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Introducing DesignOps Island Discs, the new podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to find out what it takes to have a successful DesignOps function in your org. Season one guests include the likes of Dave Malouf, Meredith Black, Harjot Bal and more.

Episode One will be released at 05:00 BST on Monday May 10, 2021, with subsequent episodes being released weekly on Mondays.

DesignOps Island Discs is brought to you by zeroheight, the design system documentation company, that allows you to create a central hub for your design system for everyone in your org. You can try zeroheight for free today.