Knowing When to Quit: Recent Episodes
Sarah Weiler
I'm Sarah Weiler, TEDx Speaker, coach and creative multi-passionate. I'm fascinated by how we navigate quitting and the uncomfortable feeling that come up when we entertain bringing things to a close.
In this podcast…
I’ll talk to entrepreneurs, ex-politicians, athletes and PhD students who all have one thing in common – they all at some point wanted to quit the thing they cared about. They’ll share how they made the decision and impart wisdom for others in similar situations.
We’ll hear from experts about their take on quitting through the lens of intuition, natural cycles and start-up ideation.
And I’ll be coaching people LIVE on their current quitting issues and guiding them to either make a decision, or embrace the uncomfortable uncertainty…
This is the podcast for anyone who has ever wanted to quit and not known what to do - I hope you'll find solace, permission, relief and in seeing yourself in others' stories.
I believe that quitting is a skill that we can understand better and even master. If we allow it, quitting really is the facilitator of joy.
Podcast Artwork - Tom Pauling Editor - Jonny Hall Music - Sarah Weiler
Today we're talking to Sieske Valk about the difficult, and often avoided part of pet ownership - the end of their life.
Sieske is an End of Life Doula and an advocate for ageing pets; She guides pet guardians through the autumn of their best friend's life.
Combining a background in veterinary medicine and the social sciences, she has set up Autumn Animals to support people in maintaining a good quality of life for both their pets and themselves and to hold space for celebrating the human-animal bond until the end and beyond.
In this episode we discuss:
- Why it is so hard for people to end the life of their pets
- What happens when we give attention to the end of a pet’s life?
- What can be done to support the guardian of the pet who is about to die?
- How do we know when it’s time? What signs should you look for?
- Sieske attitude towards death , being Dutch and coming from a Hindu background
- Beautiful stories about letting go of pets - how can a pet have a really good autumn?
- What the process is once people have made the decision to euthanise their pet, and how can it be done in a dignified way
- What are the different ways you can honour the pet after they’ve died?
Sieske and I also met 8 months after the recording with an update on Autumn Animals - I wanted to include this as it's a really interesting discussion about taking a pause from a business venture in order to recharge. This doesn't mean the project is over, it is actually the opposite!
Sieske's IG: https://www.instagram.com/autumnanimalslondon/
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in
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Welcome back writer, journalist and strategist Kim Willis to the show! You may remember Kim from series 2 when we talked about Knowing When To Quit the desire to have children (the pod's most downloaded episode to date).
Today we're back discussing Kim's decision to quit her creative project Heroine's Journey - an event series, which championed female storytelling. At the point of recording (November 2022) Kim had just closed the business and was facing the void. Now in April 2024 there are updates about what happened in the void, so stay tuned to the end!
On the episode we discuss:
- Why Kim started Heroine's Journey and what it means to be ending it
- How we are hard-wired to need stories, but how trauma storytelling is being weaponised
- Kim's attempts to re-inject the project with new energy and new direction
- What is the void and why do we struggle with it so much?
- Rituals and learnings from Sarah closing her comedy night
- What is Kim actually quitting by closing HJ
- A voicenote from future Kim with what happened next
Kim's website: https://www.wherewegrow.co.uk/
Kim's newsletter: https://wherewegrow.substack.com/
Kimstagram: @_kimwillis and @heroinesjourney_/
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in November 2022 in person in Hackney
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Always wanted to go freelance? Today I'm talking to Anna Codrea-Rado - a journalist, podcaster and campaigner, whose writing has appeared in the New York Times, The Guardian, BBC and many others. I brought Anna on as a specialist in working life and freelancing. She's the author of 'You're The Business' - a book which supports people to make it alone. She knows the questions to ask if you're thinking of making the switch, and is realistic about the struggles as well as celebrating the real highs that come with a more autonomous lifestyle.
In today's episode we discuss:
📆 Anna relationship to 'being busy'
📋 What made Anna go 'properly freelance' in 2017
✋ The difference between being pushed or pulled to freelancing
🧑🏻💻 The burnout that comes with being public-facing and why Anna has taken a break
🧠 Why Anna now charges for people to 'pick her brains'
🛑 Quitting and un-quitting her newsletter
⚓️ What an 'anchor client' is and why you need one as a freelancer
Anna on X and IG: @annacod
Anna's Book: 'You're the Business'
Anna's Podcast: 'Is This Working?'
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in May 2023 over Zoom
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Today we're talking about Knowing When to quit relationships. We live in a society which tells us that the hallmark of a good relationship is one that lasts for a long time, but does that mean that we often stay in relationships too long? Today's guest is Rosie Wilby - an award-winning comedian, author, speaker and the creator of global hit podcast and book The Breakup Monologues. Rosie believes that breakups shouldn't be feared, and that there can even be a world of joy and creativity waiting for us on the other side of heartbreak.
In this episode we discuss:
💔 Why people find it so hard to get out of a bad relationship
🏓 The concept of 40-love (meeting your partner post 40)
🎨 How creativity can support in processing a break up and how we're often more creative after a break up
🥰 What we can learn about the poly community about break ups
⏱ Is length of time together always the marker of success?
🖥 The heartache of professional break ups
🎭 Breaking up with the Edinburgh Fringe
💊 Should we use drugs to help us fall out of love?
Podcast: podfollow.com/breakupmonologues
Book: https://linktr.ee/breakupmonologues
Twitter @rosiewilby
Insta / Threads @breakupmonologues
TikTok @rosiewilbyauthor
Buy and review Rosie's book - The Unexpected Joy of Heartbreak - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1472982282
KNOWING WHEN TO QUIT
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in June 2023 over Zoom
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This is part 2 of a double episode with Dr Jude Galea on her decision to quit the medical profession after 20 years.
This is a live coaching session where we explore this decision. At the end you'll hear a voice note from a few week's after the recording, with a final update.
Thanks again, Jude for allowing us into your process.
Dr Jude Galea is an A+E doctor of 20 years, the founder of the Witchy Women platform, and host the of the podcast Dr Body Mind Soul, both of which help people inform themselves about alternative therapies away from western medicine.
Jude's instagram: @dr.bodymindsoul
Jude's website: drbodymindsoul.com
Jude's podcast: Dr Body Mind Soul -https://open.spotify.com/show/21GjmriufmyDNg0BRUasXp?si=3dd97665af5b4caa
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in March 2023
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I am so excited about today's episode, which is part 1 of a 2 part series with Dr Jude Galea - she's an A+E doctor of 20 years, the founder of the Witchy Women platform - and host the of the podcast Dr Body Mind Soul, both of which help people inform themselves about alternative therapies away from western medicine. Jude is changing the conversation about medicine and is in the process going through a big personal transformation with her identity as a doctor.
The episode you're going to hear today was recorded exactly a year ago in May 2022 when Jude was taking a break from being an A+E doctor and living in Mexico, setting up her business.
At this point a year ago she's very much still weighing up whether she should leave the medical profession and can see pros and cons for both leaving and staying.
In next week's episode we will see where she has got to one year on in terms of the decision to leave.
The process of putting these two episodes side by side really highlights to me just how hard the decision to quit can be. It's rarely an overnight decision, it's complex and it can take a lot of processing.
Thank you, Jude for sharing your story and allowing us to accompany you in your exploration of what it means for you to quit or remain in the medical profession.
I know Jude is sharing this episode on her podcast too, so if you're listening there. Welcome to this very special two part episode of Knowing When to Quit.
In this episode we discuss:
🩺 Jude's relationship with being 'a doctor' and why she decided to be a doctor in the first place
🛑 When she first wanted to quit medicine
🥳 What medicine HAS given her over the years and why she's stayed
🧙♀️Jude's exploration of alternative therapies and what she's doing to change the narrative
💜 What we mean by 'healing' and how the body works naturally
🌱 Jude's experience with plant medicine and how it's informed her decision to leave
Jude's instagram: @dr.bodymindsoul
Jude's website: drbodymindsoul.com
Jude's podcast: Dr Body Mind Soul -https://open.spotify.com/show/21GjmriufmyDNg0BRUasXp?si=3dd97665af5b4caa
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in May 2022 over Zoom
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Today's show I have the wonderful Selina Barker - life design and career change coach, the author of Burnt Out, and founder of 'Project You' and the Hello 2023 Goodbye 2022 journal series.
Selina was my entry point into designing a life I loved when I took her course back in 2013, and so it was a wonderful full circle to have her on the pod today.
In this episode we discuss:
🔥How we sometimes have to quit the big dream we've had for our careers
💜 Why quitting is a really important part of designing a life we love
😴 The importance of taking a proper break between projects (inspired by her 7 year old son!)
☕️ Why everyone thinks they want to work in a café (or be a potter)
📚 The reality of getting a book published - the highs and lows
✍️ Why Selina ended up self-publishing and advice for wannabe authors
Listen out at the end for a free guide that you can download, which I am happy to say was inspired by this conversation about whether to wait for a publisher. Selina said 'why wait for a book deal when I can enjoy writing it now and can share it straight away. And I have LOVED the process.'
You can find out more about Selina at selinabarker.com and you wearprojectyou.com
Selina's socials: @_weareprojectyou and @selinathecoach
Download Selina's new guide: weareprojectyou.com/theguide
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in March 2023
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Emily is a secondary school teacher in Yorkshire and when we met a few months ago she was really grappling with whether to stay in the profession. She was exhausted from the workload, the children and the families and was wondering if this was the right job for her.
As many of you know, I also started my career in teaching and have recently returned to education to coach teachers. In this episode you'll listen to a coaching session between me and Emily where we explore what she wants out of a job and whether she can really be her authentic self in the classroom. I'm really grateful to Emily for allowing listeners a chance to listen to this conversation.
For some context this was the first time we'd had a coaching session together, but we had had two conversations beforehand.
The coaching style I use is mainly based on the Co-Active Model and the coaching session is unedited apart from a few pauses that we have shortened for brevity.
If you're a teacher who is struggling with whether to stay in the classroom and you'd like some support, or a school who wants to explore coaching do reach out at sarah@coachingforteachers.co.uk
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Coaching for Teachers - www.coachingforteachers.co.uk/hello
Coactive Coaching - https://coactive.com/training/coach-training/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in March 2023
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WELCOME TO SERIES 3! Thanks for being here!
Today we're talking about the dreaded dating apps, the damaging narrative about being single and how we can start to shift it.
Shani Silver is a writer based in New Orleans. She hosts A Single Serving Podcast and is the author of A Single Revolution: Don’t look for a match. Light one. It’s a book that’s changing the narrative around being single, and hopefully helping single women feel better about this incredibly valuable time in our lives.
She says 'I'm not an advocate for singlehood. I’m an advocate for single women FEELING GOOD WHILE SINGLE. There is a difference.'
Shani is also the author of two Substacks! 1982, a healing newsletter for 80s babies, and Hey Shani, a toxic positivity-free advice column from a perpetual re-framer.
It's been an absolute treat to have her on the show. Thank you, Shani!
www.shanisilver.com - visit her to find links to all of her wonderful resources!
@shanisilver on all the socials
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in March 2023
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Today is a biggie.
Have you ever changed your life so much that you feel like you're completely starting over again? Today's guest, Rob Grundel has done just that. After 12 years of living in London and building a life there, Rob said goodbye to the people, communities and projects he'd built and returned to Australia with his family. While in London Rob started the music community Imaginary Millions, ran his leadership coaching consultancy Somekind and was pastor for a small Christian community. He is now living in Australia with his family and is currently a principal at business storytelling community Anecdote.
Shortly after returning home to Oz he also decided to quit the church he was part of. Stripped back from all of his identities, Rob is now asking himself 'who am I now?' And 'is there a way I don't have to identify quite so deeply with the things I create in the future?'
This is an incredibly powerful episode, which will get everyone wondering, who would I be without all the things in my life? For anyone who's ever found themselves starting again, this is for you.
In this episode we discuss:
PART 1: LEAVING LONDON
- What took Rob to London originally
- What happens to identities/ communities when you move away
- The closing rituals that Rob went through when leaving London and how it felt similar to dying.
- About Imaginary Millions - the successful hip hop night and how he 'closed' it
PART 2: QUITTING THE CHURCH
- Rob's first experience of a connection with God when he was 14
- Holding two things at once: Rob's own beliefs and the church values
- How Rob used his inner knowing to make a decision about leaving the church and what it means for his belief system now.
LINKS:
This is the Imaginary Millions album which Rob recorded just before he went to Australia:
https://open.spotify.com/album/5bre4fiI1V1O1oW8MyKeW9?si=N8hJu0LSR0ywsTTofmKoww
This is Rob's weekly letter The Letting Go:
http://tinyletter.com/robgrundel
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in January 2023
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TW: Grief
In today's episode I'm talking to Emma Sexton - an entrepreneur, marketing specialist, design thinker and creative doer.
I met Emma back in 2016 when I was running a Female Founders Accelerator and she was working at the Kings Accelerator as Creative Expert in Residence. Back then we talked a lot about our love of starting ventures and knowing when to fold them. Emma has in the past run a successful radio show, taken women on regular trade missions to New York as well as bootstrapping a really successful creative agency - called Hands Down.
In the summer of 2022 Emma made the decision to SUNSET her creative agency after 10 years, when she was really close to turning over her goal of 1 million pounds revenue.
In this episode Emma share's honestly about how she made the decision to close the business, the weight of running a big business, and the backdrop of her father's terminal illness, which helped her reassess what was really important.
Emma is so knowledgeable about the world of entrepreneurship and for anyone wondering whether quitting a business is the right thing for them, you're going to love this episode.
We discuss:
- The post-olympics new culture of entrepreneurship between 2013-18
- The pros and cons of working alone
- The struggle of trying to grow a business while a family member is dying
- How and why Emma made the big decision to quit
- What it means to exit a business
- Advice for founders who are trying to decide whether to quit
Thanks for coming on the show, Emma.
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Emma's links:
IG: @misssexton
Website: www.emmasexton.com
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in November 2022
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TW: Suicide
When I first thought about this podcast, I knew that I didn't just want to talk about jobs + businesses. Today, I have my dear friend, arts psychotherapist, and wise wise woman Zaira Mughal on the podcast sharing about her divorce.
It's a deep, honest episode about the cultural, societal and emotional reasons we hold on to relationships, even if all the signs are there that it is over.
What Zaira has gone on to do since her divorce though, is truly remarkable.
For anyone, who is feeling totally lost in life, this episode is full of hope. Zaira took the darkest moments of her life and learned to love herself, and is committed to helping others do the same. Thank you, Zaira for sharing your story with the world - you are a total inspiration.
In this episode we explore:
- Zaira' story with her ex-husband: how she felt at the start of the relationship and how things started to break down.
- Feeling like you have to be 'the strong one' in a family.
- Cultural stigma in the Muslim community about divorce, and how that impacted her readiness to walk away, and confide in her family and friends.
- How Zaira has learned to connect with her intuition and body wisdom to understand what feels right.
- The importance of space to process what is going on, and gain perspective.
- How Zaira learned to love herself after the separation.
- What's Zaira up to now and how you can work with her.
Zaira is a trainee Arts Psychotherapist, Therapeutic Arts Coach & Facilitator, and Energy healer. Her personal philosophy is that you contain a Life force that is extraordinarily creative, and is longing to express itself. When you choose to ignite your creative life force, your potential becomes exponential.
Zaira works with the arts, somatic practices, breathwork, visualisations and trauma-informed techniques to navigate life challenges, activate your imagination towards what is possible, and unleash new possibilities for living your potential.
Website: https://www.zairamughal.com/
Instagram: @arthealingwithzaira
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music composed and performed by - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in April 2022
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The place you feel the most resistance is the most important place for your soul's evolution...
In today's episode we look at the other side of quitting: NOT quitting.
Whenever we start a new project, habit or venture there is a part of us that is screaming to give up. How do we know if this is fear talking or a voice we should listen to? How do we keep going even if we're feeling a lot of resistance? What if we don't feel like we are a real (insert word) writer/creative/musician/poet yet?
My guest today, Robbie Swale, developed a simple, 12-minute a week, writing habit over 6 years, which has ended up changing his life. In this episode he'll share what he's learned from this process and how you can get started too.
Robbie Swale is a leadership coach, author and podcaster whose work focuses on creativity, leading with honour and the craft of coaching.
He is the host of two podcasts – The Coach’s Journey Podcast and The 12-Minute Method Podcast – and the author of The 12-Minute Method series of books, including How to Start When You’re Stuck and How to Create the Conditions for Great Work.
In this episode we discuss:
- Why we weren't sure whether we'd should do an episode about NOT quitting
- How Robbie started a regular writing habit as an experiment on a train journey
- Why doing less actually gets you further
- How his first book came about, almost be accident
- What felt hard about keeping going with his writing practise
- How do you choose what to start on?
- Is it fear or wisdom talking when we want to give up?
- What identities Robbie had to shift as he started writing
- The fear of outshining other people
- A crisis of 'what's the point' after watching Frank Turner run a 4 day musical festival
Books we talk about
Atomic Habits /4000 weeks/ The War of Art / The Big Leap
Music at end - Frank Turner - Photosynthesis
Learn more about Robbie at www.robbieswale.com and www.thecoachsjourney.com.
Buy the 12-Minute Method Books at https://geni.us/12minutemethodseries
Find Robbie on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQ
Twitter: https://twitter.com/RobbieSwale
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robbieswalecoachandauthor
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robbieswale/
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in October 2022
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Ooof! This is a big topic today, and one we've been wanting to put out for a while.
Between our mid 30s and mid 40s most women are preoccupied with a big decision - whether or not to have children. The decision is complicated: while it's partly in our hands, it's also, in many ways totally not.
We wanted to have a frank discussion about what it means to be in this time of deliberation, how we personally navigate the uncertainty, and the opportunity we have to build a new narrative for childfree women.
In this podcast we discuss:
- Both our current (but ever-changing) perspectives on whether we want to have children
- What the benefits could be of not having children
- What we've learned from older women who are child free
- The danger of the panic years
- Whether it's as simple as family vs freedom, or if it's more nuanced than that
- Should we all be mothers anyway?
- Whether men have a ticking clock
- Towards a more open idea of what family can mean
Thank you for listening. Please share this episode with anyone who you think it would resonate with!
Follow Kim - @_kimwillis (Instagram) and @kimberleywillis (Twitter)
Kim's website - https://www.wherewegrow.co.uk/
Kim's newsletter - https://wherewegrow.substack.com/
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Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
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Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
The song at the end is Hand in my Pocket by Alanis Morissette - Kim on vocals and Sarah on keys.
This was recorded in November 2022
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TW: suicide and grief
In 2008 Tiffany Philippou returned to university, having lost her boyfriend to suicide over the summer. For the next decade she kept herself busy with work, love and London - anything to take her mind off facing her grief.
Now, 14 years on, she's written a memoir documenting her 20s and the journey she went on to stop pretending that things were 'totally fine.' It's brave, raw and honest and a reminder for anyone grieving that it's okay to ask for help.
In this final episode of 2022 we discuss:
⛑ What did mental health support look like in 2008?
💊 What Tiffany did to try and numb the grief.
🗣 The importance of talking about things to reduce the shame.
📖 The process of writing a memoir including calling up people from your past to tell them you've written about them!
🫀 We also discuss quitting more generally including knowing when to quit a relationship, listening to doubts and knowing the difference between 'this is just hard' and 'I know in my bones this is not right.'
🚀 I share the framework I use to decide if a quitting decision is based on flight, fight or freeze.
😐 We discuss if anyone has ever regretted quitting and whether the desire to quit should always be trusted?
Tiffany's weekly newsletter: tiffanyphilippou.substack.com
Tiffany's book: Totally Fine and Other Lies I've Told Myself - https://www.waterstones.com/book/totally-fine-and-other-lies-ive-told-myself/tiffany-philippou/9781909770720
Tiffany's podcast: Totally Fine with Tiffany Philippou - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/totally-fine-with-tiffany-philippou/id1612599165
Connect with Tiffany on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tiffphilippou/
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Quitting Quadrant framework - https://sarah-weiler.medium.com/knowing-when-to-quit-introducing-the-quitting-quadrant-model-37ff083f12a2
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in April 2022
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What can ADHD teach us about Knowing When to Quit? Today's guest Matthew Bellringer has some ideas...
Matthew is a divergent innovation guide, neurodiversity advocate and social entrepreneur. They believe that with the right support, unconventional people can make a unique contribution to addressing big, messy problems that affect everyone. Working with (mostly) neurodivergent professionals, academics, and entrepreneurs, Matthew helps establish original approaches to complex issues. They also work with organisations to create the kind of spaces which support this work.
In this episode we explore:
🧐 Why having a short attention span can be a good thing
👨🏻⚕️ Matthew's journey with ADHD and Dyslexia diagnoses
🎢 The difference between appetite for risk and appetite for uncertainty
🤹🏻♀️ How Matthew realises it's time to move away from a hobby and what they do to honour the completion
😩 How to know where to start when you're feeling overwhelmed with options
👎🏽 The stigma around being a generalist
👯♀️ How the desire quit plays out when they're working with others
Matthew's website: matthewbellringer.com
Find Matthew on Linked in: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-bellringer/
Matthew's podcast: https://www.matthewbellringer.com/delightful-dissent
Navigating Neurodiversity, for people exploring and figuring out what to do with diagnosis, before and after:
https://iaq.matthewbellringer.com/notes/wkfywxei831rn1ncukspxjc/
and its counterpart for those supporting a neurodivergent person personally or professionally, Supporting Neurodiversity:
https://iaq.matthewbellringer.com/notes/89tai34f8kpwdcj4zbp5oo3/
Matthew as a speaker/writer - https://iaq.matthewbellringer.com/notes/fwbn4nd6nooqxdqcewd2o1i/
Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit
Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/
Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling
This was recorded in April 2022
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''When we thinking nothing is happening. A LOT is happening.'' - Sam Moyo Welcome to SERIES 2 of Knowing When to Quit! We're so excited to have you back here. This week I'm speaking to Samantha Moyo: Founder of Morning Gloryville (MGV), Creative Coach and Consultant, and as of this summer Shambala Festival's favourite cowgirl. If you don't know MGV, it was a revolutionary sober rave movement, which got people up at 6am to dance to the likes of Fatboy Slim before work. It had huge success all over the globe, and yet, there will always be moments in a start-up's story where the founder asks, 'is this still working for me?' In this honest interview, Sam shares what led her to want to move away from MGV; how the abrupt end shed light on the outdated systems in place; and how she's determined to make sure the world of business changes for the better. In this conversation we discuss: 🏡 Non-binary thinking, not just in gender and sexuality but in where we choose to live 🧘🏽♀️The importance of sitting in the fertile void in order for an idea to emerge 🔮 Being a futurist and how it comes from sensitivity ❤️ The changes Sam wanted to see in the world when she set up MGV 🚺 Menstruation in the workplace - what is changes and where we still have work to do 🔥 How the difficult end to MGV revealed the truth about the systemic change that needs to happen in business, and what it's fuelled in her since 🌳 The things that helped Sam get through her post-MGV time Please note there is swearing on this episode, in case you are playing it in front of littles :) Sam's website - https://www.samanthamoyo.co.uk/ Sam's IG - @mysticmoyo Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in October 2022 in person WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
Hello! Welcome back. In between Series 1 and 2 I've taken some time to reflect on my own journey with Quitting since the podcast began in November 2020. In Part 1 I looked at the podcast itself and use the Quitting Quadrantl® Framework to map my journey from Beginners' Flow, to Midway Burnout... In Part 2 I reflected on two big life changes that I was committed to starting in 2021 but that in the end I didn't go through with. In Part 3 I talk about 'Beautiful Endings' and the importance of ending projects with grace and celebration in order to honour what has been created. I share the experience of closing my comedy night after 7 years, and of reimagining my fortnightly Moon Group. Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Quitting Quadrant® - https://sarah-weiler.medium.com/knowing-when-to-quit-introducing-the-quitting-quadrant-model-37ff083f12a2 Quitting Quadrant®- www.quittingquadrant.com Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
Hello! Welcome back. In between Series 1 and 2 I've taken some time to reflect on my own journey with Quitting since the podcast began in November 2020. In Part 1 I look at the podcast itself and use the Quitting Quadrantl® Framework to map my journey from Beginners' Flow, to Midway Burnout... You may recognise your own patterns with creative projects as I talk through the model. In Part 2 I reflect on two big life changes that I was committed to starting in 2021 but that in the end I didn't go through with. I talk about how I made the decisions and the importance of experimentation as part of the process. In Part 3 I talk about 'Beautiful Endings' and the importance of ending projects with grace and celebration in order to harvest what has been created. Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Quitting Quadrant® - https://sarah-weiler.medium.com/knowing-when-to-quit-introducing-the-quitting-quadrant-model-37ff083f12a2 Quitting Quadrant®- www.quittingquadrant.com Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
‘I had all the external support I could have hoped for, but it still wasn’t making me happy. There was a deeper, bigger, issue within me.’ This week we talk to Vicky Johnson - Co-founder & Director at the Museum of Happiness, an organisation which uses the Science of Happiness to spread more love, peace and happiness into the world. You'd imagine that to run a Museum of Happiness you'd have to have a pretty sunny disposition, and you wouldn't be wrong. Vicky is one of the most positive people I've worked with - uber-resilient and full of the joys of life. And yet, the uncertainty of running a start-up combined with a job that focuses on supporting others with their well-being eventually took it's toll on her own mental health. In this episode Vicky shares how on 3 separate occasions she was ready to walk away for the Museum of Happiness, and how each time it forced her to go deeper into her internal world to resource herself and understand what was really going on. This is an honest account of burning out, facing up to the mud and coming out the other side with the tools, wisdom and humanity to lead the organisation of her dreams.
In this episode we discuss: 🤗 The success of Museum of Happiness and how their first happiness event went viral ✋ The 3 times in the journey of the start up that she really wanted to quit 📞 Moving away from ‘I’m the helper / I’m the teacher’ and getting support 🚪 The turmoil of two of their venues closing in quick succession 🏆 Being nominated as one of the top 100 community leaders in the world by Facebook and how meeting other founders changed her perspective. 🏝 The difference between needing a holiday and actually taking some proper time off to return 🤫 Meeting the Dalai Lama straight after Vipassana(!) and what 10 days of silence taught her ❤️ How she used to run the organisation when she was burned out and how she’s put self-care at the heart of organisation now 🥳 How upping the volume on the joy can help combat stress 🗣 How Vicky has sharpened her ability to say NO Links: Museum of Happiness Facilitator Training - https://www.museumofhappiness.org/teach Happier World Club - https://www.museumofhappiness.org/happy-world-club Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in May 2021 WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
‘If you’ve waited until the point until you hate the thing to close it, you’ve waited too long.’ John Williams is the bestselling author of 'F**k Work Let's Play' and a coach for creative entrepreneurs who want to make money from the things they love. I first met John 10 years ago when I attended one of his Scanners' nights and it's no exaggeration to say that his work changed the course of my career. John helps people to see that they can get 'paid to play', but that in order to do that you have to actually start. And eventually, you have to know when to stop too. In this episode we discuss: 💡What a 'Scanner' is and the difference between a good and bad one. 🛳The importance of 'shipping things' even if they're not ready. 📂 Category Creation and building the thing you wish existed. 😱 The importance of community when you hit the inevitable crisis point of a creative project. 🎤 The role in sharing ideas with an audience and getting feedback early. ✋ John's decision to close parts of his business, even when he still had lots of customers. 🗣 The power in declaring an ending publicly. 🧠 How you appease the ego when you close something that has worked. 🔥 John's advice for bringing your ideas to life quickly as a scanner. USEFUL LINKS: John Williams - https://fworkletsplay.com/ (https://fworkletsplay.com/) Join John's FB group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/johnwilliamsfwork/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/johnwilliamsfwork/) Buy the book - https://amzn.to/3DShiYA?fbclid=IwAR2uw7u2WoRQfRvZNwUDpMBNiiZIbuVH1ObBTfnBKAn55-H6oUxBL5oKLG4 (https://amzn.to/3DShiYA) Download John’s free worksheet to choose your business and take his free 5 day standout challenge at https://fworkletsplay.com/ (https://fworkletsplay.com/) Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in May 2021 WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler (https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler)
‘Quitting doesn’t have to mean stopping the car and getting out - it can just be taking a different direction.’ Today's episode is with Mathy Silvakumaran - she's a writer, filmmaker and disability activist from Yorkshire, who is sharing her story of knowing when to quit her PHD. In this episode we explore: 🧘🏽♀️The importance of taking time away to get clarity and headspace on a decision. 😣 How worrying you 'always quit things' can make you double down and stay somewhere against your better judgement. 🧭 Navigating the world as a disabled person and how lack of representation can be the driver for change. 🗣 How to talk about and repackage an experience after you've walked away. 🏫 The role of schools in teaching us it's okay to quit. 😭 How emotionally draining it can be to not know whether you want to quit, but still have to turn up and work. 🎨 How having 'nothing to do' can often lead you to the activities you really enjoy. USEFUL LINKS Mathy's website: https://www.sivamathys.com/ Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in Late 2020. WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
‘That time my body just went ‘no no no no’ I can’t do this.’ Amisha Ghadiali is the host of podcast and founder ofAll That We Are (previously Future is Beautiful) and author of Intuition - Access Your Inner Wisdom. Trust Your Instincts. Find Your Path published in 2021. Amisha has been a visionary in the way that she's worked, allowing ideas to come to her and using her intuition to birth new and trailblazing concepts into the world. In this episode we discuss: 💡Whether a project or idea takes up energy when we keep it running in the background
👁️Amisha being a visionary and creating things that didn’t already exist
✨What it feels like in Amisha’s body when an idea ‘arrives’
👂How Amisha has learned to listen to her NO over time
🇮🇳Coming from an immigrant family and leaving the ‘respectable’ career of politics
🤚How living out of our values often means saying NO to really great opportunities
🌳Writing a book in a treehouse during lockdown
💜Amisha’s top tips for connecting with our intuition Useful links Amisha's website - www.amisha.co.uk Amisha's podcast - http://www.allthatweare.org/ (www.allthatweare.org) Amisha's book - https://www.amisha.co.uk/intuition/ (https://www.amisha.co.uk/intuition/) Follow Amisha - @amishaghadiali Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in Summer 2021 WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
‘’This person said to me - if you want to progress, you need to learn to not cry.’’ Hannah is Head of Compliance at Lockton, an insurance broker and a trustee and board director of Ella’s, a charity works with women who have survived trafficking and sexual exploitation. In this conversation we explore Hannah’s professional conundrum - she longs to be a role-model for women in her industry to show them it is possible to be in a position of leadership and have a family, yet she is frustrated with the slow changes in gender equality and the battles she faces on a daily basis at work. She isn’t sure she can stay much longer in the system, not to mention the other parts of herself she wants to explore - baking, being in nature; just BEING. How can she show up for these women and also show up for herself? In this episode we explore: Hannah’s frustrations with gender equality in the corporate world. People being surprised that someone at her level is married with kids. How the skills that people learn being new parents should be seen as transferable skills in the workplace. Do we always have to affect change from within an organisation? Or are there other ways to influence change? How it’s still not okay for women to be emotional at work. Having open conversations about menopause, menstrual cycles with colleagues at work and building workplaces around the menstrual cycle. The financial logistics when transitioning from a career to running your own project and how to start taking by small steps. Bringing more 'being' into the day-to-day.
Useful links: Hannah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-pring-compliance/ 'If men had periods' blog: https://www.redschool.net/blog/if-men-had-periods (https://www.redschool.net/blog/if-men-had-periods) Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in November 2020 during lockdown WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
''IT'S THE CY-CLE, THE CYCLE OF LIFE!'' Vix Anderton is an embodiment coach, cyclical living and authenticity maven who guides overdoers, overthinkers and recovering perfectionists to reconnect with their authenticity and resilience. She's had a fascinating career starting in the RAF, then the corporate world, and now she runs her thriving coaching business from sunny Bali. Her knowledge of cyclical living has supported me no-end in understanding the rhythms of my business and life. In this episode she'll share how cyclical living is everywhere, and especially how it helps us to tune into our natural sense of when it's time to quit even though the dominant culture says otherwise. She says: ‘’The more positive view of quitting is: ‘I’ve felt everything there is to feel, I’ve really listened to myself and I’m making a decision from capital S self. I’m not triggered, I’m not playing out an old childhood pattern. I’m a fully capable adult saying ‘I’ve reached the end of this cycle and it’s time for me to move on and do something else.’’ In this episode we discuss: Quitting the Airforce - why she left and how she approached leaving Why the empty space or 'winter' post quitting is so important and our reluctance to go there How everything has a cycle - even conversations! Why you shouldn’t do business marketing when you’re pre-menstrual All about Autumn (the letting go phase) and how to build it into your day The importance of building in reflection time and space into business Rituals for letting go (which may or may not include Taylor Swift) Is there a thing as too much winter? Realistic Minimums with cycle living and how to not be a perfectionist about it My own reflections of a mini-winter I took with this podcast
Useful links: Vix's website: https://vixanderton.com/ Vix's Decelerator starting 21st March 2022: https://vixanderton.com/the-decelerator Vix's IG: @Vix_Anderton Podcast homepage: www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Buy us a coffee to support the podcast: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler Artwork - Tom Pauling Music - Sarah Weiler Editors - Johnny Hall/Sarah Weiler This was recorded in February 2021 during lockdown
''SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA BE A LITTLE BIT AWESOME'' ‘Every single day something good happens in my life because of Project Awesome, not because I’m involved in it now, but because I was involved in it then.’ This week I talk to the unstoppable force that is Danny Bent (@danny_bent). He's an adventurer, happiness guru, storyteller and all-round good human. In 2014 he set up a high-energy running club - Project Awesome- promising badass workouts, high 5s and free hugs at 6:30am. Very quickly hundreds of people (including me!) were gathering to run over Tower Bridge with the sunrise and then scheme great adventures during the post-workout coffee. So many lives were changed, yet behind the scenes Danny was burning out. A difficult predicament arose - as a founder of a community impacting so many people's lives, did he even have the right to quit? In this episode Danny bravely shares: How and why he made the decision to step away from such a thriving community How he was experiencing life day to day during the worst time and what was enabled in his life once he quit The loss of identity when you stand down from leading a community and how to cope with the sudden free time Quitting in sport - how you know when to push on and when to call it a day Danny’s advice for how to quit a passion project/community when it feels unthinkable to step down
‘Be pure to yourself and look after yourself. You don’t have to be a reproduction of anybody else. Even if that other self is YOURSELF. I don’t have to be the Danny I was 5 years ago when I set up Project Awesome.’ Links: Danny Bent: www.dannybent.com / @danny_bent Join the Great Norse Run: https://www.lykkeadventures.com/products/great-norse-run-2022 Project Awesome: https://projectawesomehq.com/ Join a free workout: https://www.facebook.com/projectawesomelondon/ Knowing When to Quit - Instagram - @knowingwhentoquit Podcast homepage - www.sarahweiler.com/podcast/ Editor - Johnny Hall / Music - Sarah Weiler / Artwork - Tom Pauling This was recorded in May 2021 WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PODCAST? You can buy me a coffee here: https://ko-fi.com/sarahweiler
EPISODE 1 IS HERE! 'The News is Alive with the Sound of Quitting... aaaaah!' In 2017 I put a call out for people to share their quitting stories with me. People were shocked that I was bringing this 'brave' and 'out-there' topic into the world. They DM'd me on the sly with their confessions about times they wanted to quit, or shared their relief of when they did. Quitting was still a guilty secret. Fast forward to 2022 and Quitting is all the rage! The great resignation is upon us and Quitting is showing up in every newspaper, magazine and podcast interview. The world is ready for this podcast! In this first episode I'm interviewed by my wonderful coach Kate Taylor, who is helping me bring the themes of this podcast and my own Quitting journey to life. Listen to the whole thing over a cuppa, or skip to the bits you want like the true short-attention-span millennial you are. (And yes, I'm forever a teacher - still differentiating for all listening types!) 4:24 - How and why I've created frameworks to support myself and others as multi-passionates 8:55 - What I do now and the journey I've been on 12:20 - My hopes for this podcast and how it came about 15:56 - How we are constantly quitting and re-committing - and the idea of a ''mini-quit'' 20:03 - What the desire to quit is really showing us 23:08 - The importance of celebrating endings the grace and harvesting the experience 27:36 - My own early experiences of quitting and how it shaped me 38:45 - Framework time! The Quitting Quadrant® 44:00 - The Carousel Model (+ how it intersects with the Quitting work) 47:19 - Whether I've ever regretted quitting something... 50:09 - What to expect with the podcast interviews coming up... 52:50 - The best piece of advice about quitting I can give people...
I hope you enjoy it! And if you get half way through and it's not your vibe, you have full permission to quit listening... Also, yes don't worry, I will make sure every episode has a musical theatre link in its title. IMPORTANT THINGS COVERED. Interview by Kate Taylor // Edited by Jonny Hall // Podcast Art by Tom Pauling // Intro music by Sarah Weiler More on the podcast: https://sarahweiler.com/podcast/ (https://sarahweiler.com/podcast/) The Quitting Quadrant®: www.quittingquadrant.com Carousel Model: https://sarah-weiler.medium.com/the-carousel-check-in-tool-d82b3ebf83b8 RECORDED AUGUST 2021
Welcome to Knowing When to Quit - the show where we explore how to navigate the deeply uncomfortable decision of letting something go... Editor - Jonny Hall Podcast Art - Tom Pauling Intro Music - Sarah Weiler