Music Ed Insights: Recent Episodes

Dr. Steve Shanley and Alan Feirer

Dr. Steve Shanley, Alan Feirer, and national thought leaders explore current issues in music education, with practical application for K-12 music educators.

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Veteran band director and wellness advocate Lesley Moffat joins Alan and Steve to talk honestly about loving your job so much it starts to break your body—and what to do before (or after) you hit that wall. She shares her journey from 14 prescriptions, surgeries, and constant pain to a healthier, sustainable version of the same career, including the moment she realized, “I love my job, but it’s killing me.” From there, we dig into practical ways K–12 music teachers can set boundaries without feeling selfish, rethink pep bands, rehearsals, and extra events, and build “first push-up”–sized wellness habits that actually fit real school schedules. Along the way, Lesley offers concrete ideas for communicating limits to students and families, using tools like AI and boosters to offload busywork, and modeling a version of music teaching that’s excellent for kids and survivable for adults.

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Adult learning expert Dr. Julie Ressler joins us to unpack imposter phenomenon—why some of the most competent, caring educators still feel like they’re faking it. Drawing on her research with high-achieving professionals (including school-trained musicians and leaders), Julie explains why she prefers “phenomenon” over “syndrome,” how IP shows up in teachers as overpreparing, perfectionism, and fear of being “found out,” and why it often hits hardest when we step into new roles or high-pressure schools. From there, we explore practical strategies K–12 music teachers can use right away: reframing negative self-talk with a growth mindset, recognizing the difference between healthy stretch and toxic self-doubt, using “evidence files” to counter distorted beliefs, and modeling for students what it looks like to pursue excellence without pretending to be perfect.

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Alan and Steve check in halfway through summer and somehow get from community band concerts and arranging music to “dad books,” artificial intelligence, young people wanting less gimmick and more authenticity, and whether we might be seeing a small return to kindness in public life.

Steve has a theory that AI is the new World War II book for middle-aged dads. Alan has been working with hundreds of students and noticing more resilience, more phone-free thinking, and a stronger desire to keep things real. Along the way, they revisit the idea that AI can be useful when it helps us think better—but dangerous when we let it think for us.

It’s a relaxed, groove-based summer conversation about what we’re reading, noticing, hoping, and still trying to figure out.

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Alan and Steve talk with Susan Smith live at the Iowa Bandmasters Association Conference about small band empowerment, smart repertoire choices, adjudication, and what it means to teach the students in front of you. Susan challenges the idea that smaller programs should have lower standards, reminding directors that success is about culture, musical growth, and meaningful experiences—not just size or ratings. Along the way, she offers practical advice for young teachers, festival judges, mentors, and anyone working to build a strong program with the kids they actually have.

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Alan and Steve respond to Mia Silverio’s Prof G article “What AI Is Doing to School,” which raises serious concerns about students outsourcing writing, attention, and critical thinking to AI. Rather than treating the article only as doom and gloom, they see an advocacy opportunity for music educators: band, choir, orchestra, jazz, and other fine arts classes still require students to think, listen, problem-solve, practice, make mistakes, and improve in real time. They discuss how music may be one of the best places in school for students to build the very skills AI can tempt them to avoid.

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Recorded live at the 2026 Iowa Bandmasters Association conference, Alan and Steve sit down with conductor and educator Cynthia Johnston Turner for a candid conversation about what really matters in the band room. Cynthia unpacks how she moved from a fear‑ and product‑driven rehearsal culture to one centered on psychological safety, inclusion, and community—without lowering musical standards. She shares practical ideas for engaging 21st‑century learners, balancing “old school” structure with modern expectations, setting healthy boundaries with students, and bringing improvisation and creativity into the concert band setting through clear rules and low‑risk experiments. Band directors at all levels will find honest reflection, concrete strategies, and permission to separate their self‑worth from how the ensemble sounds.

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Alan and Steve dig into a common teacher frustration: students who don’t take deadlines seriously. Alan shares a practical approach to setting deadlines that actually mean something—by clearly explaining the “why,” distinguishing between preferred and true drop-dead dates, and avoiding fake or inflated due dates that desensitize students. Steve adds perspective as someone who struggles with deadlines himself, highlighting how transparency and consideration for others’ time can motivate better follow-through. This short episode offers a concrete communication model educators can use right away to build trust, reduce chaos, and help students grow into more responsible adults.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator and mind‑shifting coach Mitch Weisburgh about how music teachers can help students—and themselves—move from limbic “survival mode” into resourceful, resilient, and collaborative mindsets. They explore how to respond when students say “I can’t do this,” how to use music itself as a powerful self‑regulation tool, and how small shifts in language, silence, and curiosity can transform behavior and engagement in the music room. Mitch also shares practical strategies for navigating conflict with colleagues and administrators, advocating for music programs, and catching our own brains when they’re “lying” to us.

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Alan and Steve share a fast, practical debrief tool you can use after a concert, contest, trip, marching season, or school year: WWW/TALA — What Went Well and Take A Look At. Built on Alan’s longtime approach to project improvement, this quick tip shows music teachers how to gather useful feedback in just a few minutes, avoid over-talking the debrief, and save the right notes so next year’s planning is smarter from day one.

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DJ, author, and music business professor Amani Roberts joins Alan and Steve to unpack how today’s students are listening to and creating music—and what that means for K–12 music educators.

In this episode, they discuss:

  • Why teens prefer singles and short-form content over full albums
  • Strategies for teaching deep listening using artists like Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar
  • The rise of beat-making and bedroom producers, and what’s lost when theory and ensemble work fade
  • Simple ways to get started with GarageBand, DAWs, and found sounds in your classroom
  • How declining school music programs are reshaping the skills of working artists today

Amani also shares highlights from his book on the history of R&B groups, his life as a touring DJ, and a few personal favorites—from a memorable Tina Marie concert to a go-to Vegas restaurant.

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Student trips are more expensive and more complex than ever—so are they still worth it? In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve return to the very same Disney resort room where they recorded a student travel episode two years ago to unpack what they’ve learned from nearly 30 years of group travel. They explore the non‑negotiables that make trips work: staff‑led communication and hype, crystal‑clear expectations and time boundaries, and intentional chaperone selection and preparation. They also dig into early organizational moves like rooming lists, how to handle rising costs and “entitled” questions from parents, and what to do when (not if) something goes wrong. Along the way, they highlight how travel helps students navigate money, public transportation, shared spaces, and life’s inevitable curveballs—while building resilience, empathy, and community for both students and adults.

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Alan and Steve talk with Athens, Georgia–based music educator and Tones Collective co‑founder Cortez Daniel about what he’s learning from teaching “today’s kids” in K–12 and community settings. Cortez shares how his work in public schools and with organizations like Evergreen Children’s Chorale and Tones Collective informs his approach to accommodations that maintain rigor, preventing learned helplessness, and meeting students with diverse needs—non‑verbal learners, English language learners, and blind students—where they are. They explore how he uses AI as an inclusion tool, why “relentless positivity” matters, what’s changed in students’ attention and motivation since pre‑pandemic days, and how inviting families’ skills and goals into the program can transform a music community.

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Just in time for spring contest preparation, Alan and Steve unpack one deceptively simple idea: “There’s one rule in music – make it sound good.” If that’s true, what does it actually look like in rehearsal? Steve breaks the rule into six practical priorities great ensembles share: accurate attacks, correct pitches, the best possible tone, solid blend, clean releases, and a clear melody that’s never covered up. Before you worry about phrasing and dynamics, this short episode gives you a clear order of operations to help any band, choir, or orchestra truly sound good. A version of this episode was originally released in February of 2024.

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Alan and Steve talk with choreographer and movement educator Michael Rosales (Carolina Crown, Bluecoats, Santa Clara Vanguard, The Breakdown Camp) about why every student—and every director—can move with confidence. They explore how to use simple, safe movement to teach rhythm and expression, how band and choir directors can lead movement without being “dance people,” and concrete ways K–12 music teachers can weave movement into rehearsals to improve performance, storytelling, and student engagement.

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Steve and Alan take on a touchy but important topic: the gap between what we ask from students and what we actually model ourselves. They admit their own everyday hypocrisies (hello, phones at stoplights and slow email replies) and then connect it to the music room: punctuality, effort, communication, reflection, and how we respond when others drop the ball. You’ll hear the difference between healthy human imperfection and being a walking counter-example, plus a simple challenge for the week: choose one behavior you care about most from your students and make sure your own actions actually match it.

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Composer, bandleader, and educator Russ Gershon (Either/Orchestra) joins us to explore how music becomes a window into history, geography, and human connection. Russ shares how he uses songs like “Proud Mary” with K–4 students to teach rivers, steamboats, and timelines; how storytelling and context make improvisation less scary for teens; and what Ethiopian modes and rhythms can offer our ensembles and ears. We also dig into how a Harvard philosophy degree shapes his musical life, why he sees himself as a “perpetual student,” and what it looks like when professional-level artistry and deeply humane teaching truly feed each other.

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Steve and Alan take on the bad reputation of “flex” music and make the case for using flexible-instrumentation charts as a musical tool, not a last-resort compromise. They compare band culture to choir and orchestra traditions, talk honestly about attention spans and rehearsal efficiency, and explain how fewer parts can actually mean more learning and less boredom. You’ll hear practical ideas for using flex charts to teach style, time, tone, and teamwork in concert band and jazz band, plus why this matters just as much at the high school and college level as it does in beginning and middle school.

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Grammy-nominated saxophonist, educator, and activist José A. Zayas Cabán joins us to connect what’s happening on the streets of the Twin Cities with what happens in our music rooms. He shares firsthand experiences of the recent Twin Cities ICE presence, the trauma and courage in his community, and the economic fallout for immigrant neighbors and local businesses. From there, we dig into the universal pull of Latin jazz and African diasporic rhythms, why students move so naturally to this music, and how K–12 band, choir, orchestra, and general music teachers can use it to teach core concepts, center student stories, and build truly inclusive programs. Along the way, José offers concrete ideas for repertoire, classroom framing, and using music-making as both healing and resistance.

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Alan and Steve share practical strategies for conducting honor bands, choirs, and orchestras without burning everyone out. They walk through smart programming (including why you must have one easier “win” piece), how to structure the first read-through, when to cut music, and how to build student confidence quickly so the experience feels challenging, musical, and genuinely rewarding.

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Stacey Ryan of School of Rock joins Alan and Steve to unpack a new social-impact study showing how ensemble music-making boosts students’ happiness, confidence, and teamwork over time. They discuss data on mental health and motivation, strategies for building belonging in K–12 music programs, the All Stars touring model, and why partnerships between school music programs and School of Rock can be mutually beneficial. Stacey also shares lightning-round favorites from Boston restaurants to Paul McCartney memories and a powerful book recommendation.

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Alan and Steve invite you to revisit our third episode, and find that many of the tangents were intriguing, helpful, and thought-provoking for all educators. We’ll be back with a new guest next week.

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Alan and Steve explore a surprising communication skill for music educators: knowing when to write warm, story-driven messages—and when to strip things down to simple, factual, policy-based communication. They talk about how over-explaining can actually weaken your position with parents, administrators, and outside entities, and offer practical examples of short, clear, “transactional” language that still fits a human-centered teaching philosophy.

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Alan and Steve tackle one of the toughest parts of the job: responding to upset parents by email, text, phone, or conference. They walk through how to move emotional conversations to the right channel, listen and summarize without getting defensive, name a shared goal for the student, set clear boundaries around what you can and can’t do, and know when to loop in administrators—so advocacy becomes partnership instead of combat.

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Alan and Steve question the classic slogan “attitude is everything” and explain why it can unintentionally shame students who are already having a rough day. Instead of trying to “fix” someone’s mindset, they suggest a more practical approach: focus on observable behavior, name its impact on the ensemble, and make clear, doable requests. The result is a healthier culture where students can have imperfect feelings and still show up with meaningful effort.

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Alan and Steve respond to a listener question about ensemble pride and dig into the fine line between healthy confidence and toxic hubris in competitive groups—whether it’s show choir, marching band, jazz band, or orchestra. They connect ideas like humility, empathy, narcissism, the Dunning–Kruger effect, and imposter syndrome to the way we talk about our own programs and other ensembles, offering practical questions directors can use to check the culture they’re building.

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Alan and Steve dig into why writing program notes matters more than you think—not just for the audience, but for you and your students. They share practical tips on researching and personalizing notes, avoiding jargon, highlighting student performers, deciding when to speak from the stage, and even using ChatGPT to draft print and spoken versions that match the quality of your ensemble’s performance.

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Alan and Steve draw on Alan’s 19 years in the classroom and 15 years in the corporate world to reframe how music educators advocate for their programs. Instead of leaning on “we work nights and weekends,” they suggest focusing on what’s truly unique about teaching—rigid schedules, limited autonomy, and underfunded programs—and how to talk to administrators, board members, and community leaders in the language of investment and student outcomes.

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As we head into concert season, we want to make sure our new listeners hear this classic episode with Dr. Travis Cross who, among other gems, lays out the case for the large ensemble. Whether you need inspiration for the next stretch, more ideas for advocacy, or you’re just a fan of the brilliant Dr. Cross - this episode is a classic for a reason. Enjoy Part 2.

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As we head into concert season, we want to make sure our new listeners hear this classic episode with Dr. Travis Cross who, among other gems, lays out the case for the large ensemble. Whether you need inspiration for the next stretch, more ideas for advocacy, or you’re just a fan of the brilliant Dr. Cross -- this episode is a classic for a reason. Enjoy.

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Steve and Alan have an enlightening conversation with Dr. Rhoda Bernard, Founding Managing Director of the Institute for Accessible Arts Education. Rhoda shares groundbreaking insights into creating inclusive music classrooms. She discusses the challenges educators face in reaching students with diverse learning needs, offering practical strategies to remove barriers and unleash creativity. From understanding processing differences to implementing peer-assisted learning, Bernard provides a compassionate and innovative approach to music education that empowers every student to participate meaningfully. Whether you're teaching elementary general music or leading a high school ensemble, this episode offers transformative ideas to make your classroom more accessible, engaging, and supportive for all learners.

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Alan referenced the Grand Master Scale in our last Quick Pro Tip, and a listener wrote in to ask “What IS the Grand Master Scale and how do you implement it?” Alan answers those questions here.

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Steve asks Alan about a rehearsal strategy that works especially well for students with anxiety, ADHD, or autism—and Alan explains why a clear and consistent rehearsal structure actually helps all students thrive. This tip sets the stage for our upcoming full episode with Dr. Rhoda Bernard, who will explain how universal design in music education lifts the floor for everyone, not just those who need accommodations.

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In this enlightening episode, Steve and Alan talk with veteran music educator Mary Cogswell. She shares transformative insights into music education that transcend ensemble size and experience level. Join us as we explore innovative strategies for incorporating creativity, diversity, and meaningful musical experiences into band programs. From finding diverse repertoire to introducing composition techniques and addressing creative standards, Mary offers practical, actionable advice that will inspire educators across all musical disciplines. Whether you're teaching beginners or advanced ensembles, this conversation provides fresh perspectives on engaging students and expanding musical horizons.

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As marching band festival and competition seasons wrap up, and the show choir season starts to get rolling, Alan and Steve share a powerful strategy for turning this year’s struggles into next year’s strengths. Learn how to capture the “we can’t fix it now” feedback, avoid repeating programming mistakes, and set yourself—and your future ensembles—up for success.

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In this episode, Alan and Steve talk with music education expert Elisa Janson Jones, who offers a roadmap for K-12 music teachers seeking to thrive in a rapidly changing educational landscape. Drawing from her extensive experience as an educator, podcast host, and researcher, Elisa provides actionable strategies for integrating emerging technologies, advocating for program resources, and personal professional growth.

Listeners will discover innovative approaches to navigating AI tools, expanding professional influence beyond the classroom, and developing critical skills that go far beyond traditional music instruction. From building community connections to creating data-driven funding proposals, this episode challenges music educators to become adaptive professionals who can transform challenges into opportunities.

Whether you're a new teacher looking to establish your career or a veteran seeking fresh perspectives, this conversation offers insights into building a more resilient, impactful music education practice in the 21st century.

And, there’s a bonus lightning round in which Steve and Alan answer Elisa’s questions!

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Last week, we discussed the legalities of sharing concert recordings, and today we're back with important clarifications! In this follow-up episode, Alan and Steve break down a key question from listeners: Do schools need a license to live-stream a concert while it's happening? The answer is nuanced, but the good news is there are legal, free ways to livestream—as long as you follow a few simple guidelines.

Steve shares updates from NAfME and NFHS (with the usual legal disclaimers) and clarifies:

  • When it’s okay to stream on YouTube or Facebook
  • When you do need a license
  • What “archival use” means—and how it helps your students
  • And why you probably weren’t breaking the law 20 years ago

If you're trying to navigate music performance rights in 2025, this episode will help.

Also: A quick plug to check out last week’s episode for practical licensing tools and a discount code just for listeners.

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Join Alan and Steve with Brenna Horn-Cronin, who demystifies the complex world of music licensing for K-12 schools, offering practical insights on how educators can legally stream recordings and archive their performances while respecting copyright laws.

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Too often, some of our students - think percussionists and color guard -get comments only about equipment, logistics, or behavior—while wind and string players - and singers - hear about tone, balance, and musicianship. Alan and Steve challenge directors to rethink this dynamic and offer musical feedback to every section—especially the ones we tend to overlook.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, we shift the spotlight from students and teachers to the often-overlooked role of parents and guardians in music education. Guest Michael Hemsworth joins Alan and Steve to discuss why parent involvement is critical, how it can transform music programs, common pitfalls to avoid, and practical strategies for empowering families to support their child’s musical journey. Whether you’re a music teacher or a parent, you’ll find actionable insights to help every child thrive musically—at home and in the classroom.

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In this quick—and actually short—pro tip, Steve shares a small habit that makes life easier for your future self and your family: decluttering one item a week from your home and school office. It’s not about minimalism. It’s about easing transitions and clearing space—for peace of mind, for family, and for music.

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After a summer hiatus, Alan and Steve return to the mic to share what they’ve been up to, what they’ve learned, and what’s coming in Season Four. From hikes in Scotland to arranging jazz charts, AI to acoustic concerts, youth leadership to professional rejuvenation—this is a relaxed and insightful welcome-back chat.

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In this episode, Steve and Alan explore meaningful ways to spend summer break. They discuss combating isolation by nurturing friendships, pursuing personal interests, and providing support to new teachers. Their conversation offers practical insights into maintaining connections and finding purpose during the break, with a focus on professional and personal well-being.

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Recorded in front of a live audience at IBA, Alan and Steve talk with Dr. Rodney Dorsey about maximizing the conference experience, work-life balance, and other lessons learned from a lifetime in music education.

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Longtime listener and educator Kyle Engelhardt joins Alan and Steve to talk about the power of bringing in outside clinicians. From leadership development to jazz programming, Kyle shares how working with trusted experts helped elevate his students and strengthen his program. Whether you're a veteran or new to the profession, this is a great reminder that you don’t have to do it all alone.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve welcome longtime listener Michael Kosiek and Carlisle High School principal Andrea Hoekstra. They share how Carlisle’s flexible approach to professional development allows teachers—especially music educators—to focus on learning that’s relevant to their subject areas. Hear practical advice for how teachers and administrators can work together to create PD that truly supports professional growth.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve unpack what makes a compliment truly meaningful—especially in the classroom or rehearsal setting. From specificity to timing to structure, they share practical ways to reinforce good behavior, boost motivation, and show appreciation in a way that actually sticks. Whether you're working with students or colleagues, this quick tip will help you give compliments that make a difference.

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Alan and Steve respond to a message from a listener who asks a bold but important question: Are high school music teachers doing too much? From overloaded calendars to student burnout, they explore what drives the packed schedules—and how to lead strong programs without running ourselves or our students into the ground.

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Alan and Steve explore how directors can model effective leadership during a clinic or festival rehearsal. It’s tempting to jump in, redirect, or show what you already know—but great leadership in these moments often means knowing when to step back. With practical advice on professional etiquette, communication, and presence, this episode helps you get the most out of your guest clinician—for your students and for yourself.

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In this episode, Alan and Steve sit down with Chuck Dickerson, the Founder and Music Director of the Inner City Youth Orchestra of Los Angeles (ICYOLA). Chuck shares his insights on the importance of increasing diversity and representation in classical music, and provides actionable strategies for K-12 music educators to make a difference.

From incorporating music across the curriculum to advocating for policy changes, Chuck offers a roadmap for teachers to engage underrepresented students and communities. He also discusses ICYOLA's unique approach of creating a supportive, non-competitive environment to foster a love of orchestral music.

Tune in to discover practical ways music educators can empower the next generation of musicians and ensure classical music reflects the diversity of our society.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve discuss simple but powerful ways to prepare students for clinics and guest rehearsals. From body language and eye contact to answering questions and teacher prep, this conversation offers practical tips for band, choir, orchestra, and general music teachers—especially during festival season. Help your students make the most of these valuable learning moments with confidence and professionalism.

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Steve and Alan learn from Jenny Gee, a professor, researcher, and experienced music teacher, about effective classroom management techniques, especially in the post-pandemic environment. Gee shares practical advice and research-backed strategies that teachers can use to address behavior challenges, build relationships with students, and create engaging, safe learning environments.

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In this re-release, Alan and Steve revisit their conversation with Dr. Alice Hammel about how and why students with special needs can and should be included in music classes and ensembles. This episode remains one of the most impactful in Music Ed Insights history, offering practical strategies and a shift in mindset that can help every teacher create a more inclusive and effective learning environment. Whether you're hearing it for the first time or listening again, this discussion is full of valuable insights for all music educators.

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Steve and Alan take a fresh look at our talk with New Trier director Matt Temple about performing at a very high level without the pressure or benefit of competition. This was our very first episode.

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In this insightful discussion, Dr. Matthew Armstrong, Director of Choirs at Wayne State College, engages co-host Alan Feirer in an exploration of the complex topic of student loyalty to music teachers and programs. They examine the potential benefits and pitfalls of cultivating strong loyalty, drawing on their extensive experiences to provide valuable perspectives for music educators. Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how to foster a healthy, inclusive program culture that balances loyalty with other important considerations. Fun fact: all the male voices in our popular Quick Pro Tips jingle are Dr. Armstrong.

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Co-host and composer Steve Shanley gets Dr. Lucas Petersen to share a practical process of evaluating the quality of music written for performance ensembles of beginners in their first couple of years of playing. We’ll learn five easy criteria to apply: balance and structure, uniqueness/surprises, consistency, genuineness/ingenuity, and craftsmanship/orchestration.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve introduce a second “rule” for music educators: Have a reason for what you do—and what you don’t do. They apply this idea to ensemble setup, exploring how different seating arrangements can improve balance, blend, and student engagement. Whether you teach band, choir, or orchestra, this episode offers fresh perspectives on getting the best sound from your group.

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Steve and Alan talk with musician, producer, educator, and founder of Hip Hop DNA Kiran Vedula about integrating hip-hop into the music classroom. Kiran shares practical strategies for teaching foundational hip-hop concepts like rhythm, layering, and improvisation, as well as tips for fostering creativity and collaboration with students. They discuss the cultural significance of hip-hop, sampling, and using technology like Soundtrap to make beats. Kiran also shares about his nonprofit Flutes at Dawn and his new album "Good News" aimed at uplifting people's spirits through participatory world music traditions

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Alan shares a simple but powerful approach to improve collaboration: using the phrase “in order to do my best work.” Learn how this tactic can help you communicate needs effectively and reduce stress, whether working with colleagues, administrators, or students. This tip is valuable for all music educators—band, choir, orchestra, and general music teachers alike.

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In this episode, Alan and Steve talk with educator, podcaster, speaker, and author Theresa Hoover about practical strategies for empowering students in music education. They explore ways to give students more ownership over their learning, including soliciting feedback, incorporating student-led activities, and encouraging creativity and composition. The conversation also covers common challenges and how to overcome them when implementing student-centered approaches. Whether you teach elementary general music or high school ensembles, this episode provides actionable ideas to help your students become more engaged and invested musicians.

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Steve and Alan demystify common copyright misconceptions and introduce the ArrangeMe platform, a valuable resource for music educators. Learn how to legally arrange music for your groups, explore the benefits and limitations of ArrangeMe, and discover why copyright matters across band, orchestra, choir, and general music settings. Tune in for practical advice and insights that every music teacher can use.

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Steve and Alan talk with professor, author, composer, and choral director Marques Garrett about the importance of diversifying choral programming and elevating non-idiomatic works. Garrett shares fascinating personal experiences learning about the rich musical heritage within historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), where choirs have long championed non-idiomatic compositions by Black artists.

Garrett discusses the challenges of broadening repertoire choices, the historical context behind the under-representation of Black composers, and the impact of his efforts to increase awareness and performance of this vital body of choral music. The conversation explores Garrett's programming choices, the nuances of cultural appropriation, and the need for inclusive representation in music education. With a focus on practical strategies and the power of community, this episode offers invaluable insights for music educators and anyone passionate about fostering a more diverse musical landscape.

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Steve and Alan talk with professor, author, composer, and choral director Marques Garrett about the importance of diversifying choral programming and elevating non-idiomatic works. Garrett shares fascinating personal experiences learning about the rich musical heritage within historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), where choirs have long championed non-idiomatic compositions by Black artists.

Garrett discusses the challenges of broadening repertoire choices, the historical context behind the under-representation of Black composers, and the impact of his efforts to increase awareness and performance of this vital body of choral music. The conversation explores Garrett's programming choices, the nuances of cultural appropriation, and the need for inclusive representation in music education. With a focus on practical strategies and the power of community, this episode offers invaluable insights for music educators and anyone passionate about fostering a more diverse musical landscape.

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Steve and Alan talk about the past year and preview a bit of what’s coming up in early 2025.

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Alan and Steve talk to orchestra director Chris Selby about effective ways to improve musical clarity through intonation and rhythm.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve tackle one of the most overlooked aspects of music instruction: articulations. While this topic is essential for band directors working with woodwinds and brass, the conversation also holds valuable insights for orchestra, choir, and general music teachers. Discover why articulations are as crucial as notes and rhythms, and how understanding “music as a language” can elevate your teaching approach.

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Steve and Alan explore the ways any K-12 educator can implement the philosophy of music as a student birthright in their classrooms and schools. They discuss strategies for increasing access and opportunities for student creativity and composition, as well as building relationships with administrators to strengthen music education programs. Guest Leila Ramagopal Pertl shares her insights on empowering students as musical beings and serving the whole child through general music.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve share a simple strategy to engage students and reduce stress through effective delegation. Learn how to delegate tasks in three categories: Organize, Teach, and Appreciate. From managing classroom materials to teaching peers and showing gratitude, these strategies empower students while giving you more time to focus on what matters. Tune in for practical tips to make your teaching life easier!

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Alan and Steve sit down with professor Ryan Scherber to explore ways that teachers can integrate social and emotional learning (SEL) into their music classrooms. Scherber provides an overview of key SEL competencies and emphasizes the importance of understanding trauma-informed pedagogy. The discussion covers specific, actionable strategies that music educators can use to foster critical social-emotional skills, from breathing exercises to collaborative composition projects. Scherber also addresses potential challenges teachers may face when implementing SEL. Listeners will come away with a toolbox of easy-to-use SEL techniques tailored for the music classroom.

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve introduce a simple "pecking order" strategy to help music educators prioritize planning tasks and reduce stress. Learn how to categorize tasks based on urgency—starting with immediate student needs, teammate collaboration, administrative requests, and parent communication. Tune in for a practical method to streamline your planning and stay focused on what matters most!

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Recorded in front of a live audience, Alan and Steve sit down with renowned band director Dr. Kelli Pence to learn from her wealth of experience. Kelli reflects on her early teaching days, sharing the mistakes she made and the strategies she's developed over the years to effectively engage students and manage classroom challenges - including dealing with those dreaded "nasty grams" from parents. Kelli also shares invaluable insights from her mentors, like the legendary Mallory Thompson, on the importance of musicianship, the value of teaching at all levels, and the role of marching band. This conversation is packed with practical wisdom and inspiration for music educators at any stage of their career.

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After Alan and Steve give a short acceptance speech for receiving Education Podcast of the Year, Steve shares some very practical tips and encouragement for lightening your load by providing opportunities for local college students.

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In this episode, recorded live at the Iowa Bandmasters Association convention in May 2024, we sit down with renowned music education thought leader Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser to discuss the enduring relevance of band programs, effective role modeling for aspiring teachers, and navigating the challenges of modern student engagement. Dr. Tim shares his wisdom and insights gleaned from decades of experience, offering practical advice and inspiration for music educators at all stages of their careers. The conversation includes questions from the engaged audience, providing a dynamic and insightful discussion.

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Alan and Steve discuss your basic options when you are unhappy with an aspect of your job or life. Learn an effective way to take more control of your fate!

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Alan and Steve talk to educator Tim Gonzalez about his experiences, successes, and cheat codes teaching in Title I schools.

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Alan and Steve each share one bit of wisdom for tackling the new school year.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator and counselor Jane Detweiler-Sutliffe, LLPC, about ways to adjust your teaching to minimize the interference caused by student anxiety and/or teacher burnout.

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Guest co-host Dennis Green, longtime radio broadcaster and emcee, joins Steve to give teachers some public speaking tips for the upcoming school year.

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Alan and Steve have a fun and free-ranging conversation with conductor, clinician, speaker, author, adventurer and advocate Milt Allen about priorities, the relevance of music education, and anxiety.

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Podcast insider and loyal listener Matt Pries guest hosts to lead Alan and Steve through the lightning round questions that Steve has been putting to every guest for the last three years. Finally, you can learn more about your hosts!

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Alan and Steve walk through a blog post from NAfME with four pointers on preserving our voices and coping with overuse.

Episode Page: https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/summer-reading-series-vocal-health-for-music-teachers/

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Alan and Steve bring back past guest audiologist (and violist) Alyssa Ottmar to discuss new data on ear buds. Do their new features really protect our hearing? Steve asked this question of Alyssa the last time she was a guest, and now she’s back with a more definitive and detailed answer.

Alyssa Ottmar Episode: https://musicedinsights.podbean.com/e/hearing-health-with-alyssa-ottmar/

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After Alan and Steve shared and dissected author and classroom management guru Michael Linsin’s blog post “The Big Lie of Childhood Trauma,” they invited him back to the podcast to join the conversation. Linsin says, “Throw out SEL and all of its manifestations. Replace it with better subject-matter teaching, more time on task, higher expectations, weighty responsibility, and the demand for impeccable behavior.” Alan and Steve push to explore the nuances of that point of view.

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Alan and Steve discuss their reaction – and the reaction of the comments section – to the latest blog post from classroom management author and expert Michael Linsin, whose episode remains one of our most popular ever.

Michael Linsin episode: https://musicedinsights.podbean.com/e/classroom-management-with-michael-linsin/

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In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve introduce a new "summer selected short readings" series. They kick off with insights from James Clear, author of the popular 3-2-1 newsletter. Discover how Clear's ideas on wealth, handling criticism, and measuring your days can help music educators focus on what truly matters. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion!

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Alan and Steve talk about three things Alan’s noticed as he’s worked with student leaders this summer related to burnout, social skills, and desire to work. Spoiler: it’s good news. Also - one caution for directors.

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Steve and Alan review one specific idea from the Glenn Nierman episode and Steve suggests a way you can implement it easily in the fall.

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Steve and Alan talk with documentary filmmaker Samantha Campbell and legendary music educator Doug Goodkin about the Orff Schulwerk method in action. They discuss making jazz accessible to all ages, using improvisation across the curriculum, and reconnecting students through creativity and playfulness in music.

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Alan and Steve share four practical tips for music educators on how to save time using AI to create lesson plans, compose emails, write letters of recommendation, and summarize feedback.

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Alan and Steve talk with orchestra director and wellness enthusiast Ann Smith about ways to connect performance skills to student wellness.

Episode Page: https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/optimizing-health-wellness-and-happiness-with-ann-smith/

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Alan and Steve discuss the "bopping" rehearsal strategy, a technique commonly used in drum corps and marching bands but adaptable for all ensemble types. Steve explains how "bopping," or focusing on the beginnings of pitches, helps students improve rhythmic accuracy and self-detect mistakes. Tune in to learn how this approach can enhance your rehearsals, along with tips to overcome its challenges.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator and speaker John Gallagher about ways for you and your students to build advocacy and awareness for your music program through effective public relations.

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Music Ed Insights insider Michael Prichard joins Alan and Steve with a tip for educators on how to talk with students about the teaching profession.

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Alan and Steve talk to legendary educator and author Peter Boonshaft about bringing energy to our classrooms through careful planning, word choice, and even our face.

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Alan and Steve explore ways to come back from a mistake by using a proven technique for graceful apologies.

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Alan and Steve talk with orchestra teacher and 2024 Grammy Music Educator Annie Ray about her award-winning efforts to make space for students with disabilities and adversities.

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Alan and Steve report from the Iowa Jazz Championships, the only contest of its kind, and share the vibe with the rest of the country.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator and researcher Jerianne Larson about empowering female students in music education and addressing barriers facing women pursuing careers as band directors and conductors.

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Alan and Steve talk about guardrails when building relationships with your students.

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Alan and Steve discuss the value of taking students on a trip to Florida’s theme parks.

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Alan and Steve visit with “UnGrading” guru and educator Chris Gleason about the seven paradigm shifts that can lead to alternate approaches to evaluating student learning.

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Alan shares a real-world case study on how one school dealt with a staff cut, with instructions on how anyone can use the same method.

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Alan and Steve talk with composer, educator, and publisher Annie Booth about giving voice to women who make and compose music.

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Alan and Steve talk about using email to get what you want - and keep your relationships strong.

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Alan and Steve talk with Clinician, Composer, and Musician Jenny Peters about adding ukulele as an opportunity for students at all levels K-12.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator, clinician, and marching arts expert Jeremy Spicer about what really constitutes excellence in marching ensembles.

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Alan and Steve talk with audiologist Alyssa Ottmar about music teaching’s effect on hearing and how to combat risks.

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Alan and Steve with lessons learned when it comes to letting go of past “best practices.” Examples are drawn from DCI, the Episcopal Church, Irish Sean-nós artistry, and, believe it or not, K-12 music classrooms.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator, drummer, and band leader Sammy Miller about the value of groove, expression, ownership and improvisation for all music students.

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Alan and Steve talk with Rebecca Phillips and Ingrid Larragoity-Martin about inclusivity, culture, and psychological safety.

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Alan and Steve talk with Erin Holmes about lessons learned from doing a podcast, teaching, leadership and always being in the process of learning more.

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Alan and Steve talk with Will Talley and Chandler Wilson about current thoughts in Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Access, and how they impact programming.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator, author, and musicker Mary Cohen about incorporating the Musicking ideas of Christopher Small.

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Alan and Steve talk with author, educator, and pedagogy master Lillie Feierabend about moving classroom music to the day-to-day lives of our students.

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Alan and Steve talk with author and professor Philip Ewell about the inherent biases in music education.

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In their last summer episode exploring what makes a teacher successful, Alan and Steve turn their attention to the role of assessment, and give a preview of some of the guests to expect in Season Three.

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Alan and Steve talk with Kyle Smith of The Growing Band Director podcast about continuous learning.

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Alan and Steve talk with James Weaver of the National Federation about new and easy ways to stay legal with music licensing for all music educators.

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Alan and Steve talk about whether or not classroom culture is an indicator of teacher success.

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Alan and Steve discuss whether or not competitive success is a measure of teacher success.

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Alan and Steve talk with author and professor Matthew Arau about student leadership.

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Alan and Steve talk with author, educator, and speaker Scott Lang about the results of the fourth annual State of Music Education survey from Be Part of the Music.

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Alan and Steve talk with Bob Rogers Travel president Todd Rogers about the ins and outs of traveling with your students.

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Alan and Steve talk with author and classroom management guru Michael Linsin about best practices in Classroom Management.

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Alan and Steve talk with leading standards-based grading expert Wendy Barden about effective assessment at all levels.

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Take a listen behind the scenes to our raw and unedited conversation with Bob Washut.

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Alan and Steve talk with composer and jazz educator Bob Washut about the state of jazz education.

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Alan and Steve comment on the Now and preview the Future.

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Alan and Steve talk with Grace Law about String Pedagogy.

Show Notes are available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/string-pedagogy-pointers-with-grace-law/.

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Alan and Steve talk with composer, arranger, and University of North Texas director of Jazz Studies, Alan Baylock, about teaching and listening to jazz. Show notes available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/everything-jazz-with-alan-baylock/.

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Alan and Steve talk with educator, author, and composer Travis J. Cross about making the case for having large performance ensembles in our schools. Show notes available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/why-have-ensembles-in-schools-with-travis-j-cross-part-2/

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Alan and Steve talk with educator, author, and composer Travis J. Cross about making the case for having large performance ensembles in our schools. Show notes available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/why-have-ensembles-in-schools-with-travis-j-cross-part-1/

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Alan and Steve talk with general music teachers, and “Music Teacher Coffee Talk” podcast hosts Tanya LeJeune and Carrie Nicholas about classroom practices and survival tips. Show notes and more information can be found at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/work-smarter-not-harder-with-tanya-lejeune-and-carrie-nicholas/

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Alan and Steve talk with Iowa State University Director of Choral Activities James Rodde about ways any ensemble can set themselves apart. Episode notes and more information at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/keys-to-ensemble-success-with-james-rodde/

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Alan and Steve talk with James Weaver (the Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of State High School Associations) about what music teachers need to know about copyright law. More information and show notes available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/copyright-dos-and-donts-with-james-weaver/

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It's a new school year and a new season season of Music Ed Insights! Listen as Alan and Steve preview their plans and upcoming episodes.

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Alan and Steve talk with award-winning Broken Arrow, Oklahoma band director Darrin Davis about the best practices used in one of the most decorated marching band programs in the nation. Show notes and more info can be found at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/culture-and-practices-with-darrin-davis-part-2-rehearsal-techniques/.

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Alan and Steve talk with award-winning Broken Arrow, Oklahoma band director Darrin Davis about the best practices used in one of the most decorated marching band programs in the nation. Find more information about this episode at: https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/culture-and-practices-with-darrin-davis-part-1-student-leadership-and-parent-relationships/

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Steve and Alan talk with University of Nebraska-Lincoln professor Glenn Nierman about authentic assessment in the K-12 music classroom. Show notes available at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/getting-assessment-right-with-glenn-nierman/

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Alan and Steve talk to counselor Nicole Cobb about how Covid and other sources of trauma impact their learning and engagement. Find links and show notes at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/what-trauma-does-to-our-students-with-nicole-cobb/

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Steve and Alan talk with Jennifer Williams about specific ways she has implemented Music Ed Insights into her high school instrumental music classroom, and how they’ve made a difference for students. Find links and more information at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/this-stuff-works-real-world-application-with-jennifer-williams/

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Alan and Steve talk with Jason Max about learning more, growing in understanding, and staying optimistic about your students and the world. For episode notes and links, visit https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/staying-curious-empathetic-and-optimistic-with-dr-jason-max-ferdinand/  

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This week, we pose questions to our listeners. Write, send a sound clip, and engage in the conversation. We’ll use your responses and ideas for a future episode. You can take another closer look at the questions here: https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/alan-and-steve-have-questions-for-you/

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Alan and Steve reflect on the lessons and trends we’ve uncovered in our first ten episodes.

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Steve and Alan visit with veteran educator Dina Else about the upsides and downsides of competitive show choir. Links and show notes can be found at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/the-value-and-values-of-show-choir-with-dina-else/

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Alan and Steve visit with professional musician Jennifer Wharton about mental health issues that confront music students and teachers. Show notes and links found at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/mental-health-issues-with-jennifer-wharton/

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Steve and Alan talk with Alice about how and why students with special needs can be included in music classes and ensembles. Find links and show notes at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/meeting-special-needs-with-alice-hammel/

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Steve and Alan talk with Annie Savage about practical and easy ways to make a big impact and real connections with our students. Find links and show notes at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/connecting-music-with-your-students-with-annie-savage/

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Steve and Alan talk with Dr. Karen Howard about composers, literature, and the value of putting those into context for our students. Links and show notes at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/know-your-composers-selecting-literature-with-karen-howard/

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Steve and Alan talk with Jerry Tolson about the right ways to approach jazz education, race, and more in the music classroom. 

Links and takeaways from this episode can be found at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/jazz-and-more-step-by-step-with-jerry-tolson/

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Steve and Alan talk with Beth Fortune about the alternatives to traditional music in the classroom and how to introduce other genres. Show notes at https://www.musicedinsights.com/uncategorized/beyond-eclectic-strings-with-beth-fortune/

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Steve and Alan talk to Dr. Lee Nelson about appropriately programming diverse choral literature in Midwestern programs.

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Steve and Alan talk with “The Passionate Black Educator” Jasmine Fripp about teaching techniques to build passion and ownership among students in performance ensembles and general music classes.

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Steve and Alan talk with New Trier director Matt Temple about performing at a very high level without the pressure or benefit of competition.

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Dr. Steve Shanley, Alan Feirer, and national thought leaders explore current issues in music education, with practical application for K-12 music educators. Here's a 90-second preview of what's to come. Subscribe today! The first episode will drop on October 11, 2021.