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Matt Lewis & Bill Scher

Conservative Matt Lewis and liberal Bill Scher talk politics and stay friends.

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New bombshell reporting reveals former Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard was receiving detailed policy directives from her spiritual guru Chris Butler and the Science of Identity Foundation while serving in Congress — and she followed them closely.

In this episode, Bill Scher and Matt break down the disturbing implications now that she served as DNI, Trump’s chaotic handling of Section 702 reauthorization, his bizarre blockage of a bipartisan housing bill, and JD Vance’s audacious revisionist history on Watergate and the “deep state.”

We also discuss the surge of democratic socialist wins in New York, Zohran Mamdani’s strategic (and risky) moves, what it all means for the midterms, and much more.

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Matt sits down with Bill Scher of Washington Monthly for a wide-ranging discussion on the biggest political stories of the week.

Key Topics Covered:

— Trump’s Meeting with Xi in China and Taiwan Policy Shift: Trump says he discussed U.S. arms sales with Xi ‘In great detail’

— Michigan Senate Primary Meltdown: “Polls show the three-way slugfest between Abdul El-Sayed, Mallory McMorrow, and Haley Stevens is dragging them all down and creating a pickup opportunity for the GOP.” — Read Bill Scher’s piece here.

— Kentucky GOP Primary Drama: Trump’s effort to take out Rep. Thomas Massie, Rand Paul’s strong defense, the “cow money” scandal, AIPAC and big-donor involvement, and what a Massie loss (or win) says about Trump’s control of the Republican Party

— HondurasGate — Why Bill says Hondurasgate is worse than Watergate and Iran-Contra combined

— January 6 Pardons Backfiring: Freed by Trump, the Jan. 6 criminals are preying on children and others

— And MUCH more!

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New Jeffrey Epstein emails drop SAME DAY as Congress forces full file release. Is Trump hiding something? Matt Lewis & Bill Scher unpack the bombshell timing, Trump’s creepy history, and why even MAGA is cracking.

PLUS: Your health insurance is about to jump $12,000–$22,000/year. A 60-year-old couple earning $85K will pay a QUARTER of their income on premiums. Republicans had 10 years. They have NO plan. MTG (!!) is now louder than Trump on this.

Today's topics include:

– Epstein Files Back from the Dead
– Trump’s Epstein Birthday Card & Guilty Vibes
– Saddam-Style Cover-Up or Innocent?
– Megyn Kelly’s Wild “Not Pedophilia” Defense
– Trump’s Gatsby Party While SNAP Gets Cut
– $22K Premium Hike Hits Middle-Class Hard
– Dems Offer 1-Year Fix… Trump Rejects
– GOP Still Has No Healthcare Plan
– MTG vs. Trump: Who’s the Real Populist?
– Will This Sink GOP in 2026

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As the government shutdown deadline looms, Matt Lewis and Bill Scher dive into a heated debate on the DMZ.

Is a shutdown inevitable? Can Democrats hold firm against Trump’s tactics without losing public support?

From healthcare battles to filibuster threats, they unpack the political chess game and what it means for America’s future.

Don’t miss this riveting discussion!

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Explore the fallout from Charlie Kirk’s assassination, from rapid martyr status to a polarized debate on cancel culture and free speech. The DMZ's Matt Lewis and Bill Scher discuss Kirk’s legacy, controversial statements, and the alarming rise of government-driven censorship in this gripping DMZ episode.

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Matt Lewis and Bill Scher dive into the latest political firestorm on The DMZ podcast (Aug 13, 2025). From Trump’s unfulfilled promises on the Epstein files, ending the Russia-Ukraine war, and lowering grocery prices, to the controversial federalization of DC’s police and Texas gerrymandering, they unpack how Trump’s chaotic leadership style fuels spectacle over substance. Are tariffs driving up costs? Is DC crime as bad as claimed? Will Texas redistricting backfire? Get the facts and analysis here.

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Join Matt Lewis and Bill Scher in The DMZ, as they dive into the latest political firestorm surrounding the Epstein files and Congress's unexpected summer recess.

Discover how Democrats leveraged GOP divisions to delay key votes, the impact of the Epstein scandal on Trump's base, and what it means for the future of bipartisan spending deals.

Plus, a nostalgic look at 1980s icons like Hulk Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne, and Malcolm-Jamal Warner. Don’t miss this insightful episode of DMZ!

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Join Matt Lewis and Bill Scher on the DMZ as they dive into the latest political firestorm surrounding Donald Trump and the Jeffrey Epstein controversy.

Is Trump’s hesitation to release Epstein files fracturing his MAGA base? From conspiracy theories to intra-party warfare, we unpack why this story won’t die and what it means for Trump’s lame-duck presidency.

Plus, we discuss the cancellation of Stephen Colbert’s Late Show and the future of late-night TV, alongside the GOP’s controversial budget rescissions. Don’t miss this heated discussion on the shifting political landscape!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt weigh-in on Tuesday's vice presidential debate, featuring Tim Walz and JD Vance.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Bill's birthday and banjo pickin'

-- Why Democrats should target Senate seats in Texas and Florida

-- Donald Trump's condescending play for women voters

-- Whether campaign stops even matter

-- And MUCH more!

Read Bill's latest, With the Senate on the Line, It’s Time for Democrats to Spend in Florida and Texas https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/09...

Read Matt's latest: Trump is making paternalistic, delusional promises to women https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/...

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On this week's DMZ with Bill Scher and Matt Lewis, they discuss:

-- Whether Kamala Harris would have an easier time running as an incumbent president

-- Why Matt is suddenly losing conservative friends

-- Fact check mistakes made by the debate moderators

-- JD Vance's attacks on Haitian immigrants, and why Ronald Reagan saw things different

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss Tuesday night's debate. What did Kamala Harris get right, and what caused Donald Trump to falter? Also, will Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris move the needle? Enjoy!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Kamala Harris's coming CNN interview, and why she's trying to win the attention economy game

-- RFK, Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard endorse Donald Trump. But does it matter (and what does it say about the GOP)?

-- Why Kamala Harris will probably win the debate over whether to mute the microphone in the debate.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill Scher and Matt Lewis discuss...

-- Why Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama pose a problem for Harris at the convention.

-- Why Kamala Harris has the chance for a huge Electoral College win.

-- Whether Tim Walz has survived the scandals surrounding his military survice.

-- Donald Trump's campaign looks to be spiraling out of control.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Kamala Harris's decision to pick Tim Walz as her running mate

-- Matt thinks Josh Shapiro would have been a better pick

-- Walz performs well in Philly, delivering zingers about Trump and Vance

-- Will Walz's response to the 2020 unrest in Minneapolis cause him problems?

-- Trump phones in to Fox & Friends to bash Walz

-- Bill explains the weird reference to Vance and a couch

-- Should Harris and Walz do a better job of shutting down the "Lock him up!" chants?

-- Bill weighs in on JD Vance's 'Hillbilly Elegy'

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss....

-- Kamalamania: Where'd it come from, and can it last?

-- Who will Kamala pick for veep? Josh Shapiro and Mark Kelly appear to be in the lead, but Bill gives Shapiro the edge.

-- Why is Donald Trump questioning Harris' Blackness?

-- Bill has a theory regarding Trump telling evangelicals that this is the last time they will have to vote....

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Did God save Donald Trump for a purpose?

-- Who is Amber Rose?

-- Trump isn't T.R.

-- MAGA gets J.D. Vance as Trump's running mate

-- Bill says Dems shouldn't panic... yet

-- Joe Biden's Lester Holt interview fails to impress.

-- Dems should remember Woodrow Wilson

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Fall out from Joe Biden's bad debate
-- Whether Biden's team has been hiding his condition
-- Who should replace Biden on the Dem presidential ticket
-- Why Bill thinks Kamala Harris is the safest replacement
-- Whether Doug Burgum has the inside track for Trump's veep
-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

--- What Donald Trump and Joe Biden each need to do in Thursday night's presidential debate.

-- How Donald Trump is pre-spinning the debate to make excuses for a potential loss.

-- Veepstakes, and why North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum now has the inside track.

-- Primary elections: Will Reps Jamaal Bowman (D) and Lauren Boebert (R) survive?

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On this week's DMZ, Bill Scher and Matt Lewis discuss...

-- Matt's Daily Beast announcement

-- Did Joe Biden "freeze" up again?

-- The coming presidential debate.

-- Donald Trump's love-hate relationship with Milwaukee.

-- Trump's dubious "ground game."

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Donald Trump's trial comes to a conclusion

-- The Biden campaign sends actor Robert DeNiro to hold a presser outside the trial. Was this a good move?

-- Trump gets booed at the Libertarian Party convention

-- Justice Samuel Alito's neighbor's dispute some of his story about the upside down American flag

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss:

-- Nikki Haley's decision to vote for Donald Trump. It was always inevitable, but still, it hurts.

-- How voters have a false perception of the economy, and why Joe Biden can't seem to fix this political problem.

-- It turns out Justice Samuel Alito has a second "Stop the Steal" flag problem.

-- Why fears about an omnipotent "Deep State" are irrational.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill Scher and Matt Lewis discuss...

-- Joe Biden challenges Donald Trump to two debates. Does this mean Biden really does believe the bad poll numbers?

-- Biden's tariffs on electronic vehicles coming from China.

-- Tuesday's primary elections in Maryland, West Virginia, and Nebraska.

-- And MUCH more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- Why Kristi Noem refuses to back down and apologize, and whether this means Trump's techniques are not transferable to others.

-- Stormy Daniels testimony at Donald Trump's New York criminal trial, and why evangelicals are likely to forgive Trump and blame her.

-- Trump's decision to speak at the Libertarians convention.

-- Democrats the lead in the generic Congressional ballot.

-- Why Trump talked down MTG before she could try to oust Speaker Mike Johnson.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss:

-- Donald Trump's revealing interview with TIME Magazine about his second term.

-- The anti-Israel protests on college campuses, and why schools should have clearly enforced rules.

-- Biden’s clearest electoral college path.

-- The controversy over Gov. Kristi Noem killing her dog.

-- And more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss...

-- How Joe Biden's governing philosophy gets things done, but also results in Biden rarely getting credit.

-- House Speaker Mike Johnson's big week, and whether he's a more honest broker than Kevin McCarthy.

-- The antisemitic protests at Columbia University, and why Bill thinks the divestment encampments on college campuses are stupid.

-- The whining coming from Donald Trump and his allies about him having to be in court.

-- And more!

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On this week's DMZ:

-- Trump's attempt to influence jurors (it only takes one!), and what happens if Trump actually wins his trial?

-- Mike Johnson's attempt to survive as speaker and pass aid to fund Ukraine against Russia

-- And should Sonia Sotomayor retire?

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Can Donald Trump move to the center on the issue of abortion, or will Joe Biden's ads effectively tie him to the overturning of Roe v. Wade? Bill and Matt discuss this—and more!

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Matt discusses a recent Twitter spat, and Bill recounts a discussion he just had on The David Pakman Show. What do these two things have in common? Both have to do with the sense (propagated by Team Trump) that things in America are horrible. Bill explains his theory regarding how Team Biden can reframe the campaign narrative. Next, Bill and Matt discuss former RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel being let go by NBC News. And lastly, they talk about RFK, Jr.'s recent vice presidential running mate, Nicole Shanahan, and why Bill contends it's an "affront to democracy."

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Are media elites overreacting to Donald Trump's use of the term "blood bath"? Matt and Bill discuss. Next, they chat about Trump-backed candidate Bernie Moreno's primary victory in Ohio, and whether he will help Republicans take back the U.S. Senate in November.

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Bill and Matt discuss whether Nikki Haley's performance in the South Carolina primary spells trouble for Donald Trump in November. Next, they turn the tables, and talk about whether Arab-American voters in Michigan could sink Joe Biden's chances. Then they talk about Donald Trump's "outreach" to African-Americans. And finally, Bill gives us an update on whether there will be another government shutdown.

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Bill and Matt discuss whether a Democrat winning the special election in New York spells trouble for Trump in November. Next, talk turns to the "age-old" question about Joe Biden—and whether America has already moved on to other news stories.

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Bill and Matt discuss the Talyor Swift/NFL conspiracy theory. They also ponder whether Trump can kill the bipartisan border deal—and more!

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Bill argues that a president's economy, not his age, is more likely to determine whether he's re-elected. Then, Bill and Matt discuss Mike Pence's critique of Trumpian populism.

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Bill and Matt discuss Ron DeSantis's handling of Hurricane Idalia, Nikki Haley's post-debate poll bump, Sen. Mitch McConnell's health scare, and whether there should be term (or age) limits for politicians.

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Who's up and who's down? Matt and Bill break down the first Republican primary debate. 

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Matt talks about his vacation to South Carolina. Next, Bill and Matt debate whether the Georgia indictment makes it more likely that Donald Trump will show up at next week's GOP primary debate in Milwaukee. And lastly, Bill talks about Rep. Dean Phillips' call for Democrats to jump into the Democratic primary against Joe Biden.

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Will Ron DeSantis's reboot work? Matt and Bill discuss. Matt also laments the rise of tech bros like Elon Musk, Bill talks about seeing the Barbie movie, and Matt and Bill debate whether a "No Labels" candidate would swing the election to Donald Trump.

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Matt and Bill discuss why Gen-Xers Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley are running like grumpy old Boomers. Next, talk turns to whether RFK, Jr., will be Donald Trump's running mate. And lastly, the Supreme Court strikes down Affirmative Action in college admissions. Was it the right (or popular) decision?

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Bill and Matt debate whether Donald Trump will show up at Republican primary debates. They also discuss Fox News' Bret Baier's interview with Trump. Lastly, they discuss Hunter Biden's guilty plea.

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Matt and Bill discuss whether anyone can catch Trump's GOP primary lead, what it takes for a presidential candidate to catch fire, and why Joe Biden is doing better than you think on immigration, inflation, and crime.

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Bill and Matt open the show by complaining about how Canadian wildfires have created dangerous air quality in northern and lower DMZ. Next, talk turns to whether Chris Christie will ever have a shot at debating Donald Trump. And lastly, Bill explains why Ron DeSantis is the first GOP "wine track" candidate.

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Bill and Matt return to the DMZ to discuss Donald Trump's recent indictment over the Mar-a-Lago classified documents. They also weigh-in on Chris Licht's firing from CNN, Tucker Carlson's new Twitter show, and the House Freedom Caucus's rebellion against Kevin McCarthy.

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Bill and Matt start by talking about all the media they consumed over the Memorial Day weekend. Next, talk turns to who won the debt ceiling deal. Lastly, Bill and Matt discuss Chris Christie, Mike Pence, and the growing GOP field, and wonder whether Ron DeSantis represents the GOP's new "wine track" niche.

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On this week's DMZ, Matt rants about criticism that he is prematurely writing-off Ron DeSantis. Bill questions whether DeSantis has actually been a competent governor of Florida. Bill and Matt discuss DeSantis's upcoming announcement on Twitter Spaces, and why his polling has dropped in recent months. They also discuss Sen. Tim Scott, former Ambassador Nikki Haley, and more!

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On this week's DMZ, Bill tells Matt that Alejandro Mayorkas, the Homeland Security secretary, deserves a medal for his work on the border. Next, Bill and Matt discuss whether Joe Biden could use the 14th amendment on the debt ceiling. Lastly, Bill and Matt weigh whether it's wrong to judge Ron DeSantis based on photos or videos taken of him in Iowa.

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Bill and Matt talk about whether RFK, Jr., deserves media attention, and whether CNN should host a Donald Trump town hall. Next, talk turns to Jeffrey Toobin's book on Timothy McVeigh, and Texas billionaire Harlan Crow's generosity to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Lastly, Bill briefs us on the state of the debt ceiling negotiations.

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Bill and Matt discuss the firings of Tucker Carlson and Don Lemon—and whether Kevin McCarthy deserves more credit than he's getting.

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Matt and Bill discuss Ron DeSantis's fortunes, why Joe Biden should begin debt limit negotiations right away, and how mental health, violent political rhetoric, and a plethora of guns in America, are contributing to the spate of recent shootings.

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On this week's DMZ, Bill and Matt discuss why Bill thinks Ron DeSantis should skip running for president.

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Has the indictment of Donald Trump made it more likely he will be the GOP nominee? Bill and Matt discuss the politics of what many believe to be an underwhelming indictment. Next, Bill briefs us on the Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice election—and the Illinois gubernatorial election (both of which were "wins" for progressives). Lastly, Bill and Matt discuss whether the Nashville shooting will result in any political changes in Tennessee.

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Matt opens up the show by talking about his new book FILTHY RICH POLITICIANS (pre-order here: https://www.centerstreet.com/titles/matt-lewis/filthy-rich-politicians/9781546004417/) and having his car window smashed. Later, Bill and Matt discuss immigration— and whether Chris Christie is helpful or hurtful to the cause of stopping Donald Trump.

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Bill and Matt discuss whether Ron DeSantis has what it takes to fend off Donald Trump's attacks. Then, Bill weighs in on reports that some of Ronald Reagan's associates tried to delay the release of US hostages from being returned until Jimmy Carter left the White House.

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Did 'woke' policies create a bank crisis? Is it smart for Ron DeSantis to copy Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson's 'America First' policy on Ukraine? And why should you miss Mitch McConnell when he's gone? All these questions—and more!—on this episode of The DMZ!

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Bill and Matt talk about Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 videos, and then the larger story about the Fox News lawsuit. Next, talk turns to Donald Trump's "I am your retribution" speech at CPAC. Lastly, Bill and Matt wonder whether Larry Hogan's decision not to run for president signals that Ron DeSantis be handed a small enough GOP field to prevent Trump from winning with a mere plurality.

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After a week off, Matt updates Bill on the train derailment story in East Palestine, Ohio, that threatened to derail Joe Biden's re-election. Next, the guys talk about Ron DeSantis's new book, and whether anyone can overcome Donald Trump in the 2024 GOP primary. And lastly, Bill discusses his latest column on Prime Minister Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu's plans to break Israel's judiciary.

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Bill and Matt start the show by talking about Nikki Haley's presidential announcement, and her promise of "generational change." They then segue into talking about Don Lemon's gaffe about whether she's past her prime. Next, they discuss revelations that Fox News' bosses and hosts secretly knew Donald Trump's "stolen election" claim was BS. And lastly, talk turns to Sen. John Fetterman, and whether running for the Senate harmed his health.

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Bill and Matt talk about Tuesday night's State of the Union Address, and how Biden lured Republicans into heckling him. Next, talk turns to whether Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy has found a way to survive. And lastly, Matt brings up Donald Trump's latest attack on Ron DeSantis.

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Nikki Haley is reportedly running for president. Is she just running to be Trump's veep? Matt and Bill disagree. Next, topic turns to the video released showing the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi. Later in the show, Bill talks about how Republicans confused about where they stand on supporting Ukraine and on spending cuts.

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Bill and Matt continue their discussion about HBO's 'White Lotus.' Next, Matt talks about Pat Buchanan's decision to retire his syndicated column, and Bill weighs in on Buchanan's legacy. Then, talk then turns to the debt ceiling. Lastly, Bill asks Matt what he thinks of Nikki Haley flirting with a presidential run against Donald Trump.

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Is Ron DeSantis going too far, or did he just outflank Donald Trump on Covid-19 vaccinations? Bill and Matt debate whether there's a method to his madness. Next, talk turns to the GOP's speakership fight. And lastly, Bill and Matt discuss whether overturning Roe v. Wade made abortion less of a political litmus test.

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Matt and Bill discuss the Trump-West-Fuentes dinner, as well as the prospects for Ron DeSantis and Kevin McCarthy. 

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Matt and Bill discuss the Katie Hobbs upset, the tenuous House GOP majority and whether DeSantis is an improvement over Trump

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Matt and Bill pore over the surprising midterm election results

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Matt and Bill make their midterm predictions, and ponder whether or not to leave Twitter

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Matt and Bill discuss the PA-SEN debate, the prospects of a GOP wave and the CPC Ukraine letter

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Matt and Bill discuss John Fetterman's health, Dr. Oz's experiments, Herschel Walker's viability, Katie Hobbs' debate strategy and Tulsi Gabbard's defection. 

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Matt and Bill discuss the Herschel Walker revelations and the rest of the Senate midterm landscape

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Matt and Bill discuss Biden's forgetting of Rep. Jackie Walorski's death, the demise of Joe Manchin's permitting reform bill and the midterm elections.

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Matt and Bill review the Senate 2022 landscape, and the tension between "Team Normal" Republicans and election deniers

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Matt and Bill discuss Lindsey Graham's 15-week abortion ban, Ron DeSantis' immigrant stunt and Katie Hobbs' decision not to debate Kari Lake

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Matt and Bill discuss why Republicans appear to be in disarray ahead of the midterms. Plus, the legacy of Gorbachev.

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Bill and Matt discuss the midterms

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Matt and Bill talk Arizona, Kansas, Mar-a-Lago, DeSantis and IRA.

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Matt and Bill discuss the Manchin-Schumer deal, and why Biden shouldn't want a second term

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Matt and Bill discuss the prospects of Ron DeSantis, and whether Biden is fighting hard enough

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Matt and Bill discuss the Cassidy Hutchinson testimony and the overturning of Roe v. Wade

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Matt Lewis and Bill Scher discuss the San Francisco DA recall, the slate of Republican Senate candidates and Biden's handling of the presidency.

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Matt and Bill talk Pennsylvania, Madison Cawthorn and Steve Schmidt 

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David Gergen disses Gen X. Trump goes 1-1 in the WV/NE primaries. Are Dems ignoring rural voters? Can Kathy Barnette pull off a PA upset? Is Mitch McConnell on the level?