University of Minnesota Press: Recent Episodes

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Authors join peers, scholars, and friends in conversation. Topics include environment, humanities, race, social justice, cultural studies, art, literature and literary criticism, media studies, sociology, anthropology, grief and loss, mental health, and more.

Focusing on Friedrich Nietzsche’s reception of the life sciences of his day (including concerns with insects and the emergent social properties they exhibit) and his reflections on technology—research areas as central to Nietzsche’s work as they are to posthumanism—Edgar Landgraf provides fresh readings of Nietzsche and a critique of posthumanist and transhumanist philosophies in his new book, Nietzsche’s Posthumanism. Here, Landgraf is joined in conversation with Christian Emden and Stefan Herbrechter.

Edgar Landgraf is distinguished research professor of German at Bowling Green State University. He is author of Nietzsche’s Posthumanism and Improvisation as Art, and coeditor of Posthumanism in the Age of Humanism and Play in the Age of Goethe.

Christian Emden is Frances Moody Newman Professor at Rice University where he teaches German intellectual history and political thought. He is author of several books on Nietzsche, including Nietzsche’s Naturalism and Nietzsche on Language, Consciousness, and the Body.

Stefan Herbrechter is former Reader in Cultural Theory at Coventry University and former professor of English and cultural studies at Heidelberg University in Germany. He is an independent scholar of critical posthumanism and author of several books including Before Humanity and Posthumanism.

Episode references:

Friedrich Nietzsche

Cary Wolfe

Baruch Spinoza

Jane Bennett

Alfred Espinas

Bernard Stiegler

Ernst Kapp

Charles Darwin

Rosi Braidotti

Francesca Ferrando

Patricia MacCormack

Tamar Sharon

Reading list:

Vibrant Matter / Jane Bennett

On Animal Societies / Alfred Espinas

Nietzsche’s Animal Philosophy / Vanessa Lemm

Meeting the Universe Halfway / Karen Barad

Nietzsche’s Naturalism / Christian J. Emden

Nietzsche on Language, Consciousness, and the Body / Christian J. Emden

How We Became Posthuman / N. Katherine Hayles

Staying with the Trouble / Donna Haraway

Posthumanism / Stefan Herbrechter

The Will to Technology and the Culture of Nihilism / Arthur Kroker

Insect Media / Jussi Parikka

Before the Law / Cary Wolfe

Keywords: Nietzsche, posthumanism, transhumanism, critical posthumanism, swarm theory, insects, history of technology, human agency, posthumanist ethics, posthumanist politics

In Noah’s Arkive, Jeffrey J. Cohen and Julian Yates examine the long history of imagining endurance against climate change catastrophe—as well as alternative ways of creating refuge. Arguing that the biblical ark may well be the worst possible exemplar of human behavior, this book uncovers the startling afterlife of the Genesis narrative and surveys the long history of dwelling with the consequences of choosing only a few to survive in order to start the world over. Here, Cohen and Yates are interviewed by Steven Swarbrick.

Jeffrey J. Cohen is Dean of Humanities at Arizona State University. He is author or editor of several books, including Noah’s Arkive, Stone, Veer Ecology, and Elemental Ecocriticism.

Julian Yates is H. Fletcher Brown Professor of English and Material Culture Studies at the University of Delaware. He is author or editor of several books, including Noah’s Arkive; Of Sheep, Oranges, and Yeast; and Error, Misuse, Failure.

Steven Swarbrick is assistant professor of English at Baruch College, City University of New York. He is author of The Environmental Unconscious.

Episode references:

Bible (Genesis)

Athanasius Kircher (Arca Noe)

N. K. Jemisin (Emergency Skin)

Jeanette Winterson (Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit)

Rebecca Solnit (A Paradise Built in Hell, “disaster utopias”)

Donna Haraway (A Cyborg Manifesto, The Companion Species Manifesto)

Anna Tsing

Silo (Apple TV+ show) (with speculation spoiler alert)

William de Brailes (The Flood of Noah) (image appearing in color in the book)

Arks visited in this book include:

Ark Encounter, Williamstown, Kentucky

Biosphere 2, Pinal County, Arizona

The Ark of Safety, Frostburg, Maryland

Keywords: environmental humanities, climate change, Genesis, catastrophe, disaster utopias, artificial intelligence, ark thinking, medieval studies, monsters, giants, groundless reading, tension, contradiction, hope

“The worst thing you can do, we have learned, is to imagine that you are no longer on an ark.” (from Noah’s Arkive, page 3)

As military and other forms of political violence become the planetary norm, On Posthuman War traces the expansion of war as manifest within humanity’s individual, sociocultural, and biological existence. Author Mike Hill identifies three human-focused disciplines newly turned against humanity (demography, anthropology, and neuroscience) and questions the very notion of society. This episode brings Hill into conversation with Robyn Marasco and Warren Montag.

Mike Hill is professor of English at SUNY Albany. He is coauthor (with Warren Montag) of The Other Adam Smith and author of After Whiteness and On Posthuman War.

Robyn Marasco teaches political theory at Hunter College and The Graduate Center, CUNY. Marasco is author of The Highway of Despair.

Warren Montag is professor of English at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Montag is author of several books including Althusser and His Contemporaries.

Episode references:

Immanuel Kant

Claus von Clausewitz (On War)

Counterinsurgency Field Manual (FM 3–24) of 2006

The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual (from University of Chicago Press)

The Gates Doctrine

National Security Strategy

American Sniper (opening of the film)

Alain Badiou

Topics:

US war strategy (specifically in Iraq and Afghanistan)

Gender politics in the US

Crisis in the humanities

Climate change

Terms/keywords:

Civilianized

De-civilianized

Identity infiltration

Computation

“Moving through the three fields of study identified in what follows as war disciplines (demography, anthropology, and neuroscience), computational technology is key … because, like war, it is both ubiquitous and largely invisible.” (from the Preface, page xxi)

In the 2010s cities and counties across the US witnessed long-overdue change as they engaged more with questions of social, economic, and racial justice. After decades of urban economic restructuring that intensified class divides and institutional and systemic racism, dozens of local governments countered the conventional wisdom that cities couldn’t address inequality—enacting progressive labor market policies, from $15 minimum wages to paid sick leave. In their book Justice at Work: The Rise of Economic and Racial Justice Coalitions in Cities, Marc Doussard and Greg Schrock visit case studies in cities including Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Seattle, and New Orleans, and show that the contemporary wave of successful progressive organizing efforts is likely to endure—but their success hinges on a few factors including sustaining power at the grassroots. Here, Marc Doussard is in conversation with David B. Reynolds.

Marc Doussard is professor of urban and regional planning at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. He is coauthor of Justice at Work: The Rise of Economic and Racial Justice Coalitions in Cities and author of Degraded Work: The Struggle at the Bottom of the Labor Market.

David B. Reynolds was director of the Center for Labor and Community Studies at University of Michigan. Reynolds has been a labor educator for 20 years and is coauthor of A New New Deal: How Regional Activism Will Reshape the American Labor Movement and coeditor of Igniting Justice and Progressive Power: The Partnership for Working Families Cities.

Books and published works referenced:

-Justice at Work: The Rise of Economic and Racial Justice Coalitions in Cities by Marc Doussard and Greg Schrock

-Degraded Work: The Struggle at the Bottom of the Labor Market by Marc Doussard

-A New New Deal: How Regional Activism Will Reshape the American Labor Movement by Amy B. Dean and David B. Reynolds

-Igniting Justice and Progressive Power: The Partnership for Working Families Cities by David B. Reynolds and Louise Simmons

-Partnering for Change: Unions and Community Groups Build Coalitions for Economic Justice, edited by David B. Reynolds (with essay by Reynolds and Jen Kern: Labor and the Living Wage Movement)

-”Living Wage Campaigns: An activist’s guide to building the movement for economic justice.” David Reynolds and Jen Kern. (Labor Studies Center, Wayne State University and Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, 2000.)

-Agendas, Alternatives, and Public Policies by John Kingdon

-The City Is the Factory, edited by Miriam Greenberg and Penny Lewis

Other references:

-Fight for 15

-ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now)

-PowerSwitch Action: https://www.powerswitchaction.org/

-American Rescue Plan (also known as the American Rescue Plan Act or ARPA)

-The Green New Deal

Cities mentioned:

Seattle

Detroit

Denver

Chicago

San Jose

San Diego

Silicon Valley

Ann Arbor

A lot of societal structures have been permanently upended by the Covid-19 pandemic. We’re here to talk about two: air travel and dog ownership. Margret Grebowicz, author of Rescue Me, talks about the abundance of pet adoptions during the pandemic and the existential and social implications of this trend. Christopher Schaberg, author of Grounded, discusses contemporary air travel and the broad cultural landscape of empty airports and grounded planes in the early months of the virus’s spread. Both are concerned with philosophical and critical inquiries into their subjects; how to think about things, how to frame phenomena and change, and how the future will continue to reshape these experiences.

Rescue Me and Grounded are in the Forerunners: Ideas First series from University of Minnesota Press.

Margret Grebowicz is associate professor at the University of Silesia in Katowice, Poland. She is author of several books, including Rescue Me: On Dogs and Their Humans; Mountains and Desire: Climbing vs. the End of the World; The National Park to Come; and Whale Song.

Christopher Schaberg is Dorothy Harrell Brown Distinguished Professor of English at Loyola University and author of several books, including Grounded: Perpetual Flight . . . and Then the Pandemic; The End of Airports; and The Work of Literature in an Age of Post-Truth.

REFERENCES:

-Rescue Me (Margret Grebowicz)

-Grounded (Christopher Schaberg)

-The End of Airports (Christopher Schaberg)

-The Dodo Videos (Facebook videos)

-cat videos, Tik Tok

-The Ministry for the Future (Kim Stanley Robinson)

-Station Eleven (Emily St. John Mandel; book, TV series)

-Tripoli Canceled (film)

-Trainwreck: Woodstock ‘99 (docuseries)

Amid fervent conversations about antiracism and police violence, Media and the Affective Life of Slavery delivers vital new ideas, analyzing how media culture instructs viewers to act and feel in accordance with new racial norms created for an era supposedly defined by an end to legal racism. Author Allison Page examines U.S. media from the 1960s to today and argues that visual culture works through emotion, a powerful lever for shaping and managing racialized subjectivity. On this episode, Page joins collaborator and friend Brittany Farr in conversation.

Allison Page is assistant professor of media studies with a joint appointment in the Institute for the Humanities and the Department of Communication and Theatre Arts at Old Dominion University. Page is the author of Media and the Affective Live of Slavery.

Brittany Farr is an assistant professor of law at New York University School of Law. Farr’s areas of research include civil rights, contract law, legal history, property, and race.

REFERENCES:

-Saidiya Hartman

-Represent and Destroy (Jodi Melamed)

-Slavery Footprint (website; slaveryfootprint.org)

-Ask a Slave (Azie Mira Dungey, YouTube web series; askaslave.com)

-A Subtlety (Kara Walker, public project)

-Lorraine Hansberry, playwright

-Roots (television miniseries)

-Dark Matters (Simone Browne)

-Alex Haley, writer

-Stephanie Smallwood

-Christina Sharpe

-On Agency (Walter Johnson)

-Black Feminism Reimagined (Jennifer Nash)

“White people passed laws specifically in order to take away this land from our people. And then we did these other things in order to try to survive.” ALLOTMENT STORIES is a volume that collects more than two dozen chronicles of white imperialism and Indigenous resistance, highlighting how Indigenous peoples have consistently engaged creativity to sustain collective ties, kinship relations, and cultural commitments in the face of land privatization. Two contributors to this volume, Sarah Biscarra Dilley and Joseph M. Pierce, are here to share their pieces of this history.

Sarah Biscarra Dilley (yak titʸu titʸu yak tiłhini) is an artist, educator, and PhD candidate in Native American Studies at the University of California, Davis, nitspu tititʸu tsʔitɨnɨ patwin, in the unceded homeland of the Patwin-speaking people (unratified Treaty “J” region).

Joseph M. Pierce (Cherokee Nation) is associate professor in the Department of Hispanic Languages and Literature at Stony Brook University. He is the author of Argentine Intimacies: Queer Kinship in an Age of Splendor, 1890–1910 and, with S.J Norman (Koori, Wiradjuri descent), cocurator of the Indigenous-led performance series Knowledge of Wounds.

ALLOTMENT STORIES: Indigenous Land Relations under Settler Siege is a collection of essays edited by Daniel Heath Justice and Jeani O’Brien. More info: z.umn.edu/allotmentstories.

How is it possible that you are—simultaneously—cells, atoms, a body, quarks, a component in an ecological network, a moment in the thermodynamic dispersal of the sun, and an element in the gravitational whirl of galaxies? Joshua DiCaglio’s SCALE THEORY provides a foundational theory of scale that explains how scale works, the parameters of scalar thinking, and how scale reconfigures objects, subjects, relationships—while teaching us to think in terms of scale, no matter where our interests may lie. DiCaglio is joined here by author Dorion Sagan in a dazzling conversation about how a theory of scale might challenge perspectives on space and time, philosophy, innerness, psychedelics—with careful attention to scientific thinking as well as fascination and mysticism, much attuned to the way scale transforms both reality and ourselves.

Joshua DiCaglio is assistant professor of English at Texas A&M University.

Dorion Sagan is an award-winning writer, editor, and theorist. He is the son of the astronomer Carl Sagan and the biologist Lynn Margulis.

References and citations:
-Scale Theory (Joshua DiCaglio)
-Cosmic Apprentice (Dorion Sagan)
-Dazzle Gradually (Lynn Margulis and Dorion Sagan)
-Cosmos (Carl Sagan)
-Powers of Ten video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0)
-Inner Life of a Cell video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKW4F0Nu-UY)
-Jakob von Uexküll
-Microcosmos (Lynn Margulis and Dorion Sagan)
-Symbiotic Planet (Lynn Margulis)
-Simon Levin
-Samuel Butler
-Arts of Living on a Damaged Planet (Anna Lowenhaupt Tsing, Heather Anne Swanson, Elaine Gan, and Nils Bubandt, editors); Sagan has a contribution in this volume.
-The Philosophy of Science Fiction: Henri Bergson and the Fabulations of Philip K. Dick (James Edward Burton)
-Darwin’s Pharmacy (Richard Doyle)
-Friedrich Nietzsche
-Luigi Fantappiè
-Molecular Capture (Adam Nocek)

In the 1960s, Christopher Isherwood gave an unprecedented series of lectures at California universities about his life and work. During this time, Isherwood spoke openly for the first time about his craft and spirituality. The release of the updated edition of ISHERWOOD ON WRITING includes the long-lost conclusion to the second lecture, including its discussion of A Single Man and A Meeting by the River. This conversation brings the volume’s editor, James J. Berg, into conversation with fellow Isherwood scholars Chris Freeman and Claude Summers.

BIOS:

James J. Berg is a writer, editor, and scholar living in New York, and editor of ‘Isherwood on Writing.’ Chris Freeman is professor of English and gender studies at the University of Southern California. The two are coeditors of ‘Isherwood in Transit,’ ‘The American Isherwood,’ ‘Conversations with Christopher Isherwood,’ and ‘The Isherwood Century,’ winner of a Lambda Literary Award for Gay Studies.

Claude Summers is William E. Stirton Professor Emeritus in the Humanities and professor emeritus of English at the University of Michigan, Dearborn. A founding member of the Modern Language Association’s gay and lesbian caucus, Summers helped lead the gay studies movement to maturity within the academy.

NOTE:

This episode includes archival audio of Christopher Isherwood speaking at the Honors Convocation at the University of Southern California, 1974.

In a time when online classrooms and meetings have become both indispensable and mundane features of the university, STUDIOUS DRIFT asks: What kind of university becomes possible when digital tools are not taken for granted but hacked into and tinkered with in order to set study adrift? In part a meditation on the essence of the studio space, this book looks at ways we can creatively and critically muddle through the rise of e-learning logics to redefine education. Authors Tyson E. Lewis and Peter B. Hyland both teach at the University of North Texas, and are joined here today by colleague and studio artist James Thurman.

Tyson E. Lewis is professor of art education in the College of Visual Arts and Design at the University of North Texas.

Peter B. Hyland is director of the Jo Ann (Jody) and Dr. CHarles O. Onstead Institute for Education in the College fo Visual Arts and Design at the University of North Texas.

James Thurman is associate professor of metalsmithing and jewelry in the Department of Studio Art at the University of North Texas.

References:

Gert Biesta (“learnification”)

Alfred Jarry’s pataphysics

The Undercommons / Stefano Harney and Fred Moten

Links:

-Read Studious Drift free online: z.umn.edu/studiousdrift-m (also available for purchase: z.umn.edu/studiousdrift)

-Watch: Education as Experimentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llUj_Qyd5Zo

-Education as Experimentation: The Studio-D Project (homepage): https://onstead.cvad.unt.edu/studio-d

The new book ‘Cacaphonies’ takes fecal matter and its place in literature seriously. In a stark challenge to the tendency to view 20th- and 21st-century French literature through sanitizing abstractions, Annabel L. Kim argues for feces as a figure of radical equality. ‘Cacaphonies’ reveals the aesthetic, political, and ethical potential of shit and its capacity to transform literature and life. Here, Kim is joined in conversation by Merve Emre, Rachele Dini, and Laure Murat.

Annabel L. Kim is the Roy G. Clouse associate professor of Romance Literatures and Languages at Harvard University. A specialist in 20th- and 21st-century French literature, Kim is author of ‘Unbecoming Language: Anti-Identitarian French Feminist Fictions’ and ‘Cacaphonies: The Excremental Canon of French Literature.’

Merve Emre is an associate professor of literature at the University of Oxford and a contributing writer at The New Yorker.

Rachele Dini is senior lecturer in English and American literature at the University of Roehampton, London.

Laure Murat is professor of French and Francophone Studies at UCLA’s Department of European Languages & Transcultural Studies and author of several books.

Episode references:

Louis-Ferdinand Céline; Voyage au bout de la nuit (Journey to the End of the Night)

Caca communism

Jean Genet

Kristin Ross (Fast Cars, Clean Bodies)

Susan Signe Morrison

Philip Roth (Patrimony)

Anne Garréta

Samuel Beckett (Molloy)

Rey Chow

James Joyce (Ulysses/Leopold Bloom)

Alain Resnais (Providence)

ON THE WANDERING PATHS is Sylvain Tesson’s literary adventure and philosophical reflection during a three-month journey of solitude and personal contemplation while walking along vast stretches of mountain ranges and rivers, ancient bridges and villages, of France’s countryside. This exquisite chronicle through landscapes that continue to resist urbanization and technology is a thoughtful and thought-provoking glimpse into a poet’s adventurous life. Author Daniel Hornsby, who writes the Foreword to the new English translation from University of Minnesota Press, joins the Press’s Eric Lundgren in conversation.

Eric Lundgren is the Outreach and Development Manager at the University of Minnesota Press. His novel The Facades (Overlook Press) was a Barnes & Noble Discover Great New Writers pick and a finalist for the William Saroyan International Writing Prize. His writing has appeared in Tin House, The Los Angeles Review of Books, Boulevard, and The Millions, and a new story, "Actaeon at the Movies", is out in Post Road 39.

Daniel Hornsby is the author of Via Negativa (Knopf) and Sucker (Anchor, February 2023). His stories and essays have appeared in the Los Angeles Review of Books, Bookforum, The Missouri Review, and Joyland.

This translation of On the Wandering Paths is published with the support of Villa Albertine, in partnership with the French Embassy.

Exploring new concepts of the relationship between form and function while thinking through object-oriented ontology (OOO), Graham Harman (ARCHITECTURE AND OBJECTS) deepens the exchange between architecture and philosophy, providing a new roadmap to OOO’s influence on the language and practice of contemporary architecture.

Art after Nature is a series from University of Minnesota Press that engages with the politics and contradictions of the Anthropocene. Each volume aims to provide the opportunity to creatively engage with new and alternative discourses at the intersection of art, science, and philosophy. More: z.umn.edu/artafternature.

Graham Harman is distinguished professor of philosophy at the Southern California Institute of Architecture, Los Angeles, and author of many books, including Architecture and Objects; Speculative Realism; and Object-Oriented Ontology: A New Theory of Everything.

Dr. Giovanni Aloi is an author, educator, and curator specializing in the representation of nature and the environment in art. Aloi is editor-in-chief of Antennae: The Journal of Nature in Visual Culture.

Caroline Picard is a writer, cartoonist, curator, and executive director of Green Lantern Press.

Episode references:

Object-oriented ontology (OOO)

Bruno Latour

Martin Heidegger

Jacques Derrida

Gilles Deleuze

David Ruy

Aristotle

Immanuel Kant

Clement Greenberg

Joanna Malinowska (exhibit, Time of Guerrilla Metaphysics)

Edmund Husserl

Michael Fried

Aldo Rossi

Jeffrey Kipnis

Michael Young (Young & Ayata)

Mark Foster Gage

Tom Wiscombe

Marcel Duchamp

How do educational policy studies need to shift to remain adequate to the emergence of powerful forms of technology? In ALGORITHMS OF EDUCATION, Kalervo N. Gulson, Sam Sellar, and P. Taylor Webb explore how, for policy makers, big data creates the illusion of greater control over educational futures. They propose that schools and governments are increasingly turning to “synthetic governance”—where what is human and what is machine becomes less clear—as a strategy for optimizing education. In this episode, Gulson and Sellar discuss new strategies for, and a new politics of, education.

Kalervo N. Gulson is professor in education policy at the University of Sydney. He is author of Education Policy, Space, and the City: Markets and the (In)visibility of Race and coauthor of Education Policy and Racial Biopolitics in Multicultural Cities.

Sam Sellar is professor in education policy at the University of South Australia. Most recently he coedited the World Yearbook of Education 2019: Comparative Methodology in the Era of Big Data and Global Networks.

References:

N. Katherine Hayles

Luciana Parisi

Gilles Deleuze

Félix Guattari

Bernard Stiegler

Pierre Bourdieu

Michel Foucault

Isabelle Stengers

Keller Easterling (Extrastatecraft)

AlphaGo (and 2017 documentary of it)

Shoshana Zuboff

“Capitalism defeated traditional societies because it was more exciting than they were. But now there is something more exciting than capitalism: its destruction.” In the face of things with true power (capitalism, the law, public opinion, etc.), philosophy is not provisioned to battle them head-on. But it can wage “a guerrilla campaign against them,” writes Andrew Culp (referencing Deleuze) in his new book A GUERRILLA GUIDE TO REFUSAL. Harnessing critical theory, this book takes us on a journey through a subterranean network of communiques, military documents, contemporary art, political slogans, adversarial blogs, and captive media. This conversation among scholars traces a nonfascist life at the end of the world as we know it.

Andrew Culp is professor of media history and theory in the School of Critical Studies at the California Institute of the Arts. He is author of A Guerrilla Guide to Refusal (2022) and Dark Deleuze (2016).

Will Conway is a PhD candidate whose research centers around disability, biopolitics, and theories of resistance.

Jose Rosales is an independent researcher. With Claire Fontaine and Iman Ganji, they are co-author of Foreigners Everywhere and the author of 'Communism as the Riddle Posed to History' in The Double Binds of Neoliberalism (Rowan & Littlefield, 2022), as well as various other texts that can be found online. Currently, they are co-editor (alongside Andreas Petrossiants) of the multi-volume series, Diversity of Aesthetics.

Violet is a queer independent researcher based in India working on theories of resistance, biopolitics, and destituent communism.

References:

Gilles Deleuze

Michel Foucault

Arlette Farge

May 68

Jean Genet

Guy Hocquenghem

Johann Most

Lucy Parsons

Friedrich Engels

Paul B. Preciado (and “Marcos”)

Christopher Chitty (Sexual Hegemony)

Karl Marx

Jacques Derrida

Roberto Esposito

Antonio Negri

Félix Guattari

Bernadette Corporation’s Get Rid of Yourself (film)

Edward Said

Eqbal Ahmad (Confronting Empire)

Frantz Fanon

Robin D. G. Kelley (Race Rebels)

Homi Bhabha

Fred Moten

Nahum Dimitri Chandler (paraontology)

Claire Fontaine

Tiqqun

Saidiya Hartman

Kwame Ture

Nanni Balestrini (The Unseen)

Keywords: archive, power, surveillance, cybernetics, refusal, political, political control, philosophy, anarchy, class, class war, transformation

Several references are made to specific current events, and as such we want to mention the date of this recording: March 31, 2022.

In SIDE AFFECTS, Hil Malatino opens a conversation about trans experience that acknowledges the reality of feeling fatigue, envy, burnout, numbness, and rate amid the ongoing onslaught of casual and structural transphobia in order to map the intricate emotional terrain of trans survival. In May 2022, Malatino was joined in conversation by Zena Sharman, author of The Care We Dream Of: Liberatory and Transformative Approaches to LGBTQ+ Health. This conversation was hosted virtually by White Whale Bookstore of Pittsburgh, PA.

Hil Malatino is assistant professor in the departments of women's, gender, and sexuality studies and philosophy at Penn State. Malatino is author of Side Affects; Trans Care; and Queer Embodiment: Monstrosity, Medical Violence, and Intersex Experience.

Zena Sharman is a writer, speaker, strategist, and LGBTQ+ health advocate. Sharman is author of The Care We Dream Of, and editor of The Remedy: Queer and Trans Voices on Health and Health Care. More info: ZenaSharman.com.

Topics discussed: trans and queer community, affect, rage, trauma, liberatory health care, liberated futures, family, aging, burnout, carceral systems, collective care work.

References in this conversation include:
Susan Stryker
María Lugones
James C. Scott
Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha
Dean Spade
Myrl Beam
Sins Invalid disability justice primer
Aurora Levins Morales
Eli Clare
Shayda Kafai
Ann Cvetkovich

What are we leaving behind, forgetting, and obscuring as we remember AIDS activist pasts? VIRAL CULTURES is the first book to critically examine the archives that have helped preserve and create the legacy of AIDS activism of the 1980s and 1990s. Marika Cifor charts the efforts activists, artists, and curators have made to document the work of AIDS activism in the US and the infrastructure developed to maintain it, with attention on large institutional archives such as the New York Public Library, and those developed by community-based organizations such as ACT UP and VISUAL AIDS. This book explores the act of saving this activist past and reanimating it in the digital age. Cifor is joined here in conversation by Cait McKinney, K.J. Rawson, and Theodore (Ted) Kerr.

Participant bios:

Marika Cifor is a feminist scholar of archival and digital studies. Cifor is assistant professor in the Information School and adjunct faculty member in gender, women, and sexuality studies at the University of Washington. She is author of Viral Cultures: Activist Archiving in the Age of AIDS.

Cait McKinney is assistant professor in the School of Communication at Simon Fraser University. McKinney’s work includes media histories of LGBTQ+ activists and how they took up Internet technologies in the 1980s and 90s.

K.J. Rawson is associate professor of English and women’s, gender, and sexuality studies at Northeastern University. Rawson is founder and director of the Digital Transgender Archive and co-chair of the editorial board of the Homosaurus, an international LGBTQ+ linked data vocabulary.

Ted Kerr is a writer and artist who teaches at The New School. Kerr is a founding member of the collective What Would an HIV Doula Do?, and is coauthor, with Alexandra Juhasz, of We Are Having This Conversation Now: The Times of AIDS Cultural Production.

Works and people referenced in this episode:

-Vincent Chevalier and Ian Bradley-Perrin (Your Nostalgia Is Killing Me!)

-Avram Finkelstein

-Hil Malatino

-Debra Levine

-David Hirsh and Frank Moore, Visual AIDS Archive Project (visualaids.org)

-Maxine Wolfe

-Stephen Shapiro

-Nelson Santos

-Kia LaBeija (Goodnight, Kia)

-Demian DinéYazhi ́ (NDN AIDS Flag)

-AfterLab (University of Washington, Information School)

-Anna Lauren Hoffmann

-Megan Finn

-Tonia Sutherland

-Marika Cifor: "Presence, Absence, and Victoria's Hair: Examining Affect and Embodiment in -Trans Archives." Transgender Studies Quarterly 2, no. 4 (2015): 645-649.

-Lesbian Herstory Archives

-Jih-Fei Cheng, Alexandra Juhasz, and Nishant Shahani, eds. AIDS and the Distribution of Crises. Durham, NC:: Duke University Press, 2020.

-Homosaurus: An International LGBTQ Linked Data Vocabulary (homosaurus.org)

-Digital Transgender Archive

-What Would an HIV Doula Do? Collective

-PosterVirus (AIDS ACTION NOW!)

-Alexandra Juhasz and Theodore (Ted) Kerr, We Are Having This Conversation Now: The Times of AIDS Cultural Production. Durham, NC:: Duke University Press, 2022

-Cait McKinney, Information Activism: a queer history of lesbian media technologies. Durham, NC:: Duke University Press, 2020

-ACT UP

-The Archive Project (Visual AIDS)

-The Artist+ Registry (Visual AIDS)

-New York University Fales Library and Special Collections

-ACT UP/NY Records (New York Public Library)

-New York Public Library

-Alex Fialho (Visual AIDS)

-Eric Rhein (Visual AIDS Archive Project)

-Michelle Caswell and Marika Cifor. "From human rights to feminist ethics: radical empathy in the archives." Archivaria 81, no. 1 (2016): 23-43.

-Cait McKinney and Dylan Mulvin. "Bugs: rethinking the history of computing." Communication, Culture & Critique 12, no. 4 (2019): 476-498.

-Marika Cifor and Cait McKinney. "Reclaiming HIV/AIDS in digital media studies." First Monday (2020).

-What Does a COVID-19 Doula Do? Zine (ONE Archives at University of Southern California) https://www.onearchives.org/what-does-a-covid19-doula-do-zine/)

-Latino/a Caucus (ACT UP/New York)

-Julián de Mayo

Land privatization has been a longstanding and ongoing settler colonial process separating Indigenous peoples from their traditional homelands, with devastating consequences. ALLOTMENT STORIES is an edited collection that dives into this conflict, creating a complex conversation out of narratives of Indigenous communities resisting allotment and other dispossessive land schemes. The volume’s editors, Daniel Heath Justice and Jean M. O’Brien, are here to talk about the urgency of these conversations on dispossession and repossession, which are not always stories of easy heroes and easy villains; and also discuss considerations that go into publishing an edited collection.

Raised in traditional Ute territory in Colorado and now living in shíshálh territory in British Columbia, Daniel Heath Justice (Cherokee Nation) is professor of Critical Indigenous Studies and English at the University of British Columbia, xwməθkwəy̓əm territory. He is author of Why Indigenous Literatures Matter and Our Fire Survives the Storm (Minnesota, 2005).

Jean M. O’Brien (White Earth Ojibwe) is Distinguished McKnight and Northrop Professor in the Department of History at the University of Minnesota within Dakota homelands. Her books include Dispossession by Degrees and Firsting and Lasting (Minnesota, 2010).

Episode note: Brief references are made to the book’s cover designer and acquisitions editor; they are, respectively, Catherine Casalino and Jason Weidemann.

References:

-General (Dawes) Allotment Act of 1887 in the United States, which allowed the federal government to break up tribal lands.

-McGirt v. Oklahoma, in which the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that the Muscogee (Creek) Nation’s reservation boundaries in current-day Oklahoma had not been extinguished by nineteenth-century allotment legislation.

-Cobell v. Salazar settlement’s Land Buy-Back Program for Tribal Nations.

ALLOTMENT STORIES is a volume that features contributions from Jennifer Adese, Megan Baker, William Bauer Jr., Christine Taitano DeLisle, Vicente M. Diaz, Sarah Biscarra Dilley, Marilyn Dumont, Munir Fakher Eldin, Nick Estes, Pauliina Feodoroff, Susan E. Gray, J. Kēhaulani Kauanui, Rauna Kuokkanen, Sheryl R. Lightfoot, Kelly McDonough, Ruby Hansen Murray, Tero Mustonen, Darren O’Toole, Shiri Pasternak, Dione Payne, Joseph M. Pierce, Khal Schneider, Argelia Segovia Liga, Leanne Betasamosake Simpson, Jameson R. Sweet, Michael P. Taylor, Candessa Tehee, and Benjamin Hugh Velaise.

Elan Abrell is author of SAVING ANIMALS: the first major ethnography to focus on the ethical issues animating the establishment of animal sanctuaries and animal rescue facilities. Abrell has done fieldwork at such facilities across the US, and here asks what “saving,” “caring for,” and “sanctuary” actually mean, exploring ethical decision making around sanctuary efforts to unmake property-based human-animal relations and adapt to the material and social conditions of the Anthropocene. Abrell is joined in conversation by Kathryn (Katie) Gillespie to discuss witnessing, research ethics, speciesism, and the politics of care practices in the US animal sanctuary movement. (Content warning: Contains descriptions of animals in distress, at auction, and at slaughter.)

Elan Abrell is a cultural anthropologist who has taught animal studies, environmental studies, and anthropology at Wesleyan University and New York University, and is vice president of programs with the Phoenix Zones Initiative.

Katie Gillespie is a geographer who teaches at the University of Kentucky. She is author of The Cow with Ear Tag #1389.

Josef Nguyen’s THE DIGITAL IS KID STUFF questions constructions of creativity, childhood, entrepreneurialism, and technological savvy, toggling between techno-pessimism and techno-utopianism in the process. The book narrates the developmental arc of a future creative laborer: from playing Minecraft, to DIY innovation with Make magazine, to selfies on Instagram, to the Creative Science Foundation and imagining technological innovations using design fiction. Nguyen is joined here in conversation by Carly Kocurek and Patrick LeMieux.

Josef Nguyen (he/him) is assistant professor of critical media studies at the University of Texas at Dallas.

Carly Kocurek (she/her) is associate professor of digital humanities and media studies at the Illinois Institute of Technology.

Patrick LeMieux (he/him) is a media artist, game designer, electronic musician, and associate professor of cinema and digital media at the University of California, Davis.

Eco Soma proposes an art/life method of sensory tuning to the inside and the outside simultaneously. Petra Kuppers asks readers to be alert to their own embodied responses to art practice, reading contemporary performance encounters while modeling a disability culture sensitivity to living in a shared world, oriented toward socially just futures. In this episode, Kuppers joins Giovanni Aloi and Caroline Picard, coeditors of the Art after Nature series, in a conversation that begins with an embody journey and touches on questions of awareness, thought patterns, attention, capitalism, performance, language, identity, and disability culture.

Petra Kuppers is a community performance artist and disability culture activist. She is professor of English and women’s and gender studies at the University of Michigan and serves on the faculty of the MFA in Interdisciplinary Arts at Goddard College.

Dr. Giovanni Aloi is an author, educator, and curator specializing in the representation of nature and the environment in art. Aloi is editor in chief of Antennae: The Journal of Nature in Visual Culture.

Caroline Picard is a writer, cartoonist, curator, and executive director of Green Lantern Press.

ECO SOMA is free to read online at Manifold: z.umn.edu/ecosoma-m.

References in the episode include:
-the umwelt (“enviroment” or “surroundings”)

-taisha paggett

-Tiffany King (The Black Shoals)

-Yinka Shonibare

How do contemporary art and theory contemplate the “bio” of biopolitics and bioart? One of the foremost theorists of posthumanism, Cary Wolfe argues for the reconceptualization of nature in art and theory to turn the idea of the relationship between the human and the planet upside down in his new book, ART AND POSTHUMANISM. This is the inaugural volume in the new series ART AFTER NATURE, edited by Giovanni Aloi and Caroline Picard. The series fosters multidisciplinarity, creatively engaging with new and alternative discourses at the intersection of art, science, and philosophy. It engages with the politics and contradictions of the Anthropocene in order to problematize disciplines such as animal studies, posthumanism, and speculative realism, through art writing and art making.

Cary Wolfe is Dunlevie Professor of English at Rice University. Wolfe has written on a range of topics including debates in animal studies and posthumanism, has authored many books, and edits the Posthumanities series for University of Minnesota Press.

Dr. Giovanni Aloi is an author, educator, and curator specializing in the representation of nature and the environment in art. Aloi is editor in chief of Antennae: The Journal of Nature in Visual Culture.

Caroline Picard is a writer, cartoonist, curator, and executive director of Green Lantern Press.

References in the episode include:

Foucault

Agamben

Derrida

Donna Haraway

Flusser

Jacob von Uexkull

Damien Hirst

Steve Baker

Gregory Bateson

Eija-Liisa Ahtila

Niklas Luhmann

Plastics have been a defining feature of contemporary life since at least the 1960s. Yet our proliferating use of plastics has also triggered catastrophic environmental consequences. In this second episode of a two-part series, literary scholars and contributors to the volume LIFE IN PLASTIC: ARTISTIC RESPONSES TO PETROMODERNITY discuss public health, affective politics, postplastic utopias, temporality, globalism, class, geopolitics, literature, and activism as they relate to the problem and politics of plastic. Featuring Caren Irr, Crystal Bartolovich, Christopher Breu, and Sean Grattan.

Caren Irr is a professor of English at Brandeis University and author of Toward the Geopolitical Novel, Pink Pirates, and The Suburb of Dissent.

Crystal Bartolovich is an associate professor of English at Syracuse University and coeditor of Marxism, Modernity, and Postcolonial Studies.

Christopher Breu is professor of English at Illinois State University. He is author of Insistence of the Material and Hard-Boiled Masculinities, and coeditor of the forthcoming Noir Affect.

Sean Grattan is an independent scholar and author of Hope Isn’t Stupid.

Works and people referenced in the episode:

Gain by Richard Powers

Fredric Jameson

N. Katherine Hayles

Jane Bennett

A Tale for the Time Being by Ruth Ozeki

Chris Jordan

Sylvia Wynter

Thomas More’s Utopia

Plastics have been a defining feature of contemporary life since at least the 1960s. Yet our proliferating use of plastics has also triggered catastrophic environmental consequences. Plastics are derived from petrochemicals and enmeshed with the global oil economy, and they permeate our consumer goods and their packaging, our clothing and buildings, our bodies and minds. In this first episode of a two-part series, contributors to the volume LIFE IN PLASTIC: ARTISTIC RESPONSES TO PETROMODERNITY discuss plasticity and myth, stretchy superheroes, how plastic became gendered, plastic as a colonizing force, plastic in art and everyday life, and more. Featuring Caren Irr, Lisa Swanstrom, Jennifer Wagner-Lawlor, and Daniel Worden.

Caren Irr is a professor of English at Brandeis University and author of Toward the Geopolitical Novel, Pink Pirates, and The Suburb of Dissent.

Lisa Swanstrom is an associate professor of English at the University of Utah, coeditor of Science Fiction Studies, and author of Animal, Vegetable, Digital.

Jennifer A. Wagner-Lawlor is professor of English and women’s, gender, and sexuality studies at Pennsylvania State University. She is author of Postmodern Utopias and co-curator of Plastic Entanglements.

Daniel Worden is associate professor of interdisciplinary humanities at the Rochester Institute of Technology and author of Masculine Style, editor of The Comics of Joe Sacco, and coeditor of Oil Culture and Postmodern/Postwar—and After.

Works and people referenced in the episode:

Catherine Malabou

Roland Barthes

Through the Arc of the Rain Forest by Karen Tei Yamashita

The Drought by J.G. Ballard

Mutant 59: The Plastic Eaters

Covehithe by China Miéville

Artist Pinar Yoldas

Plastic by Doug Wagner and Daniel Hillyard

Great Pacific (comic, 16-issue series)

The Fifth Season by N.K. Jemisin

In inspired and incisive writing the contributors to WE ARE MEANT TO RISE speak unvarnished truths not only to the original and pernicious racism threaded through the American experience but also to the deeply personal, bearing witness to one of the most unsettling years in the history of the United States. This episode features Carolyn Holbrook, David Mura, Douglas Kearney, Melissa Olson, Said Shaiye, and Kao Kalia Yang. It is a recording from a live event at Next Chapter Booksellers in St. Paul, MN, on November 29, 2021. Minor edits and adjustments have been made for sound quality; some volume adjustment might be needed from time to time.

We Are Meant to Rise: Voices for Justice from Minneapolis to the World can be purchased at Next Chapter Booksellers. https://www.nextchapterbooksellers.com/book/9781517912215

Carolyn Holbrook is founder and director of More Than a Single Story, as well as founder of SASE: The Write Place. She is a writer, educator, and an advocate for the healing power of the arts.

David Mura has written ten books, including the memoirs Turning Japanese (a New York Times Notable Book) and Where the Body Meets Memory. He teaches at VONA, a writers' conference for writers of color, and has worked with Alexs Pate's Innocent Classroom.

Douglas Kearney has published seven collections, including Sho; the award-winning Buck Studies; and a collection of libretti, Someone Took They Tongues. He teaches creative writing at the University of Minnesota.

Melissa Olson is an Indigenous person of mixed Anishinaabe and Euro-American heritage, a tribal citizen of the Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe. Melissa has worked as a writer and producer of independent public media at KFAI Fresh Air Community Radio in Minneapolis.

Said Shaiye is a Somali writer working on his MFA degree at the University of Minnesota. He is author of Are You Borg Now?

Kao Kalia Yang is an award-winning Hmong American writer for both children and adults. She is the Edelstein-Keller Writer in Residence in the creative writing program of the University of Minnesota.

Show note: At 43:11, a minor sound glitch occurs during a reading; the full text reads: “‘Fuck-12’ in a ragged handwriting was tagged everywhere, and Black and Brown youths zipped around on their bikes observing people wandering around in shock and disbelief.”

Outsiders Within is a volume of essays, fiction, poetry, and art by transracially adopted writers from around the world who tackle difficult questions about how to survive the racist and ethnocentric worlds they inhabit. The volume was first published in 2006 and released in a new edition in 2021: a year in which reproduction and adoption politics have been spotlighted anew.

In this episode, three transracial adoptees talk about what society often gets wrong about adoption.

Sun Yung Shin was born in Seoul, Korea, and raised in the Chicago area. She is an award-winning poet, writer, and cultural worker, whose books include Unbearable Splendor and What We Hunger For. She lives in Minneapolis.

Shannon Gibney is a writer, educator, activist, and award-winning author. She was adopted by white parents in Ann Arbor, Michigan, in 1975. Gibney is a professor of English at Minneapolis College. Her forthcoming novel Botched explores themes of transracial adoption through speculative memoir.

JaeRan Kim was born in South Korea and adopted to the United States in 1971. She is associate professor at the University of Washington, Tacoma, in the social work program. She is a contributor to the volume The Complexities of Race (NYU Press), and her blog, Harlow’s Monkey, is one of the longest-running transracial adoption blogs in the US.

SICKENING is a book that examines the unconscionable disparity in health outcomes between Black and white Americans. Author Anne Pollock of King’s College London takes readers through anti-Black racism operating in healthcare: from the spike in chronic disease after Hurricane Katrina to the lack of protection for Black residents during the Flint water crisis—and even the life-threatening childbirth experience for tennis star Serena Williams. Ruha Benjamin of Princeton University joins Pollock in conversation.

Pollock is professor of global health and social medicine at King’s College London. She is author of ‘Sickening: Anti-Black Racism and Health Disparities in the United States’; ‘Medicating Race: Heart Disease and Durable Preoccupations with Difference’; and ‘Synthesizing Hope: Matter, Knowledge, and Place in South African Drug Discovery.’

Ruha Benjamin is professor of African American studies at Princeton University, founding director of the IDA B. WELLS Just Data Lab, author of two books: ‘People Science’ and ‘Race After Technology,’ and editor of ‘Captivating Technology.’

"A crucial guided analysis of anti-Blackness and its impact on Black people’s ability to live as fully entitled citizens, Pollock’s scholarship is essential medicine for a society in denial about its sickness." —Foreword

”Adapting Balzac is no small feat for any filmmaker” (Variety)—or any translator. LOST ILLUSIONS and LOST SOULS are two newly translated volumes in Honoré de Balzac’s vast HUMAN COMEDY, a sprawling and interconnected fictional portrait of early nineteenth-century France. Keenly attuned to the acerbic charm and subtleties of Balzac’s prose, these editions are invaluable resources for today’s readers as they navigate the author’s copious allusions to classical and contemporaneous politics and literature. In this episode, MacKenzie is interviewed by University of Minnesota Press director Doug Armato about Balzac’s incomparable style and the intricacies of translation. (Spoiler alert: Key plot points from Lost Illusions and Lost Souls are discussed.)

Other University of Minnesota Press translations by MacKenzie include:

Red and Black (Stendhal), forthcoming in summer 2022

Italian Chronicles (Stendhal)

Diaboliques (Jules Barbey d’Aurevilly)

Graziella (Alphonse de Lamartine)

Brouhaha (Lionel Ruffel)

Dianne Harris offers a rare exploration of the racial and class politics of architecture in her book LITTLE WHITE HOUSES, which examines how postwar media representations associated the ordinary single-family house with middle-class whites to the exclusion of others. This book adds a new dimension to our understanding of race in America and the inequalities that persist in the housing market in the United States. Harris is an architectural historian and dean of the University of Washington College of Arts & Sciences. She is joined in conversation by Mabel O. Wilson, an architect, designer, cultural historian, and curator who teaches at Columbia University. This conversation was recorded in July 2021.

Race plays a fundamental role in naturalizing social, political, and economic inequalities in the United States. Daniel Martinez HoSang and Joseph Lowndes document the changing politics of race and class in the age of Trump in their book PRODUCERS, PARASITES, PATRIOTS: Race and the New Right-Wing Politics of Precarity, which ultimately brings to light the changing role of race in right-wing politics. Racial subordination is an enduring feature of US political history, and it continually changes in response to shifting economic and political conditions. HoSang and Lowndes are here with a primer on, and insightful analyses of, The 1619 Project launched by the New York Times in August 2019, The 1776 Report commissioned by Donald Trump and released in January 2021, and recent and ongoing attacks on critical race theory in the US.

The dynamics of adoptee communities have shifted in the decades since the first edition of OUTSIDERS WITHIN was published in 2006, yet the volume continues to provide critical perspectives that have gained renewed relevance during contemporary crises. Here, three writers and artists, Korean and Vietnamese adoptees who were adopted across geographic borders in the 1970s, talk isolation, racism, identity struggle, adoption policy, and how the Internet has changed the ways connection can be found. This conversation was recorded in May 2021.

Jane Jeong Trenka is an activist and award-winning writer who was adopted from South Korea to Minnesota in 1972. She has a master of public administration from Seoul National University and was instrumental in revising Korea’s adoption law in 2011. She is author of the memoir ‘The Language of Blood’ and co-editor of ‘Outsiders Within,’ published in a new edition by University of Minnesota Press.

Dr. Indigo Willing is a sociologist, lecturer, and creator of the Adopted Vietnamese International (AVI) network for adoptees from the Vietnamese community and war refugee generation. She lives in Australia.

kimura byol-nathalie lemoine is an artist, activist, and archivist, and a Korean-born adoptee who grew up in Belgium and currently resides in Montreal. kimura*lemoine is co-founder of Euro-Korean League and an active member and archivist for the interracial adoptee community.

Outsiders Within: z.umn.edu/outsiderswithin

What if we tended to an ailing ecosystem just as we would a body in the throes of a chronic medical condition? Ranae Lenor Hanson’s memoir WATERSHED encourages us to discover how the health of our bodies and the health of the world they inhabit are inextricably linked. In this episode, Hanson is joined by educators and community leaders Lena Jones and Teddie Potter. This conversation was recorded in June 2020.

Ranae Lenor Hanson is an educator and climate activist who taught writing and global studies at Minneapolis College (MCTC) for 31 years. Lena Jones is a political science faculty member at Minneapolis College and connected to the Center for Earth, Energy and Democracy. Teddie Potter is Clinical Professor and Director of Planetary Health in the School of Nursing at the University of Minnesota.

"The credo ‘water is life’ has become a key environmental rallying cry in the years since Standing Rock, and this book helps us remember why. It recalls an American past, inhabits a global present, and imagines a working future—it will be an aid to many as they grapple with our difficult moment."—Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org and author of The End of Nature

The Migrant’s Paradox connects global migration with urban marginalization, exploring how “race” maps onto place across the globe, state, and street. Suzanne Hall examines the brutal contradictions of sovereignty and capitalism in the formation of street livelihoods in the urban margins in five cities in Britain, in places where jobs are hard to come by and the impacts of historic state underinvestment are deeply felt. Hall is associate professor of sociology at the London School of Economics and Political Science, and is joined in this episode by Tariq Jazeel, professor in human geography at University College London; Huda Tayob, senior lecturer in architecture at the University of Cape Town; and Les Back, professor of sociology at Goldsmiths, University of London. This conversation was recorded in May 2021. It is published in partnership between the University of Minnesota Press and Environment and Planning D: Society and Space.

Craig Robertson’s THE FILING CABINET explores how this now-neglected artifact profoundly shaped the way that information and data have been sorted, stored, retrieved, and used. Invented in the 1890s, the filing cabinet continues to shape how we interact with information and data in the digital age. In this episode, Robertson, who is associate professor of media studies at Northeastern University in Boston (also author of THE PASSPORT IN AMERICA), is joined by Shannon Mattern, professor of anthropology at The New School in New York City, and Lisa Gitelman, professor of English and media studies at New York University. This conversation was recorded in May 2021. About the book: z.umn.edu/thefilingcabinet

Jamie Lorimer’s THE PROBIOTIC PLANET calls for a rethinking of artificial barriers between science and policy and a sweeping overview of diverse probiotic approaches. Bruce Clarke’s GAIAN SYSTEMS is a pioneering exploration of the complex evolution of Gaia’s many variants. In a conversation that ranges from Lynn Margulis to science fiction, neocybernetics to COVID-19, Lorimer and Clarke ultimately seek insight into solving an environmental crisis of humanity’s own making. This conversation was recorded in November 2020. BOOKS: The Probiotic Planet: z.umn.edu/theprobioticplanet Gaian Systems: z.umn.edu/gaiansystems REFERENCES: Helminth, a species of parasitic worm Heather Paxson on raw milk cheese Bruno Latour Isabelle Stengers Donna Haraway James Lovelock Lynn Margulis Lyndisfarne Conferences Stewart Brand O’Neill cylinder William Gibson’s Neuromancer Stanisław Lem Frank Herbert’s Dune

CAPTURE is a book that reveals how the drive to contain and record disappearing animals was a central feature and organizing pursuit of the nineteenth-century US cultural canon. In a conversation that ranges from references to Muybridge and Audubon, Poe and Hawthorne, Whitman and Thoreau, environmental humanities and biopolitics, presentation and representation, capture and captivity, (with a cameo from Sylvester Graham of the Graham cracker), Antoine Traisnel (author of CAPTURE) joins Michelle Neely (author of AGAINST SUSTAINABILITY) in a lively and rigorous discussion. Traisnel is assistant professor of English and comparative literature at the University of Michigan. Neely is associate professor of English at Connecticut College. This conversation was recorded in March 2021. BOOKS DISCUSSED: Capture: http://z.umn.edu/capturebook Against Sustainability: https://www.fordhampress.com/9780823288205/against-sustainability/ REFERENCES: Eadweard Muybridge James Fenimore Cooper Edgar Allan Poe Nathaniel Hawthorne Gerald Vizenor Jacques Derrida, The Animal That Therefore I Am Nicole Shukin Rebecca Solnit, River of Shadows John James Audubon Walter Benjamin, The Arcades Project Herman Melville, Moby Dick Jeremy Bentham Michel Foucault and biopolitics Walt Whitman Lucille Clifton Henry David Thoreau Emily Dickinson Sylvester Graham (of the Graham cracker) Seed vault / Doomsday Vault

Amid xenophobic challenges to America’s core value of welcoming the tired and the poor, Irina Aristarkhova calls for new forms of hospitality in her engagement with the works of eight international artists. In ARRESTED WELCOME, the first monograph on hospitality in contemporary art, she employs a feminist perspective and asks who, how, and what determines who is worthy of welcome. With a focus on lessons that contemporary artists teach about the potential of hospitality, Aristarkhova looks at Linda Hattendorf’s documentary The Cats of Mirikitani; the Serbian-born installation and performance artist Ana Prvački’s project The Greeting Committee Reports . . . ; American artist Faith Wilding’s performance Waiting; Taiwanese American artist Lee Mingwei’s aesthetics of hospitality; American bioartist Kathy High’s project Embracing Animal; Mithu Sen’s artworks that explore questions of radical hospitality and crossing borders; Pippa Bacca and Silvia Moro’s art project Brides on Tour; and Ken Aptekar’s exhibition Neighbours in Lübeck, Germany. Aristarkhova is professor at the Penny W. Stamps School of Art & Design, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. She is author of Arrested Welcome: Hospitality in Contemporary Art and Hospitality of the Matrix: Philosophy, Biomedicine, and Culture. She is joined today by Jorge Lucero, an artist born, raised and educated in Chicago. He is chair and associate professor of art education at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. Lucero's books include Mere and Easy: Collage as a Critical Practice in Pedagogy, Teacher as Artist-in-Residence: The Most Radical Form of Expression to Ever Exist, and the forthcoming What Happens at the Intersection of Conceptual Art and Teaching?. Lucero is coeditor of the international journal Visual Arts Research and sits on the editorial boards for the Journal of Social Theory and Art Education, the Journal of Cultural Research in Art Education, and the Journal of Curriculum and Pedagogy. This conversation was recorded in February 2021. More about ARRESTED WELCOME: z.umn.edu/arrestedwelcome Irina Aristarkhova: https://stamps.umich.edu/people/detail/irina_aristarkhova Jorge Lucero: www.jorgelucero.com An open-access edition of ARRESTED WELCOME is available at https://manifold.umn.edu/projects/arrested-welcome.

“I may not be able to find my family but it always made me feel a step closer to help others.” OUTSIDERS WITHIN is a landmark publication that explores transracial adoption and the heavy emotional and cultural toll on those who directly experience it. The volume has many contributors who explore transracial adoption through essays, fiction, poetry, and art. OUTSIDERS WITHIN is coedited by Jane Jeong Trenka, Julia Chinyere Oparah, and Sun Yung Shin. This episode features Trenka in conversation with Ami Nafzger. Jane Jeong Trenka was adopted from South Korea to Minnesota. She holds a master of public administration from Seoul National University and was instrumental in revising Korea’s adoption law in 2011. She is author of THE LANGUAGE OF BLOOD and FUGITIVE VISIONS and coauthor of CHILD-SELLING COUNTRY (in Korean) with Kihye Jeon Hong and Kyung-eun Lee. She lives in Korea. Ami Inja Nafzger (aka Jin Inja) was adopted from Cheonju, South Korea, at the age of four and grew up in Wisconsin. She attended Augsburg College in Minnesota, graduating in social work, sociology, and Native American Indian studies. She founded Global Overseas Adoptees’ Link (GOA’L) in 1997. Nafzger is founder, president, and CEO of Adoptee Hub and works for the Department of Human Services (DHS) State of Minnesota as a Planning Director in the Business Integration Division for Children and Family Services. LINKS: Outsiders Within: z.umn.edu/outsiderswithin Adoptee Hub: https://www.adopteehub.org/ G.O.A’.L.: Global Overseas Adoptees’ Link: https://goal.or.kr/

The urgency of climate change means it is not sufficient for environmental scholarship to describe our complex relationship to the natural world. It must also compel a response. TIMESCALES: THINKING ACROSS ECOLOGICAL TEMPORALITIES gathers scholars from different fields, placing traditional academic essays alongside experimental sections, to promote innovation and collaboration. This episode asks: Why art? Why art … at all? With climate change and environmental catastrophe looming large, what purpose does art serve in pressing conversations about environmental futures? Three TIMESCALES contributors are here to answer that question: -Patricia Eunji Kim, assistant professor/faculty fellow at the Gallatin School of Individualized Studies and a provost’s postdoctoral fellow at New York University. She serves as an assistant curator at Monument Lab, a public art and history studio. Kim researches and teaches Greco-Roman art and archaeology, with a focus on issues of gender, cultural identity, and empire. Her in-progress monograph examines the art and archaeology of royal women from the Hellenistic world (4th–1st century BCE). -Kate Farquhar is a Philadelphia-based landscape designer at Olin and has worked at the intersection of ecology, infrastructure, and art for fifteen years. Her TIMESCALES chapter focuses on WetLand, an experimental floating lab created from a 45-foot-long salvaged houseboat in 2014 by artist Mary Mattingly. From 2015 to 2016, Farquhar served as program coordinator for events that accompanied its residency with the Penn Program in Environmental Humanities (PPEH) on the Lower Schuylkill River. -Dr. Marcia Ferguson, a professional actor, director, and educator, has worked as a theatre artist in Philadelphia regional theatre and arts organizations including the Wilma Theatre, Painted Bride Art Center, Act II Playhouse, Irish Heritage, Paper Dolls, the Mediums, Juniper productions, the Daedalus String Quartet, and the Penn Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology. She has collaborated on seven original productions for Edinburgh and Philadelphia Fringe festivals, and has done theatre and film work in Los Angeles, New York, Rome, and Tokyo. She is senior lecturer in theatre arts at the University of Pennsylvania and has published two books and several articles on theatre. Her TIMESCALES chapter focuses on Pig Iron’s work in progress “A Period of Animate Existence,” the subject of a discussion Ferguson moderated at the 2016 PPEH conference. Director Dan Rothenberg, composer Troy Herion, and set designer Mimi Lien were the 2016-17 artists in residence at PPEH. This conversation was recorded in November 2020. This is the third and final podcast episode in a series that has featured the book’s three coeditors: Kim; Bethany Wiggin, director of the Penn Program in Environmental Humanities; and Carolyn Fornoff, assistant professor of Latin American culture at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. REFERENCES: Timescales: z.umn.edu/timescales WetLand: https://ppeh.sas.upenn.edu/experiments/wetland A Period of Animate Existence: https://www.pigiron.org/productions/period-animate-existence MORE TIMESCALES PODCAST EPISODES: -Ep. 14: Time and the interplay between human history and planetary history. With Carolyn Fornoff, Jen Telesca, Wai Chee Dimock, and Charles Tung: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-14 -Ep. 12: Scientists and humanists talk timescales and climate change. With Bethany Wiggin, Frankie Pavia, Jason Bell, and Jane Dmochowski: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-12

Scammer’s Yard is an ethnography that focuses on the stories of three young Black Jamaicans who strive to make a living in Montego Bay, where call centers and tourism are the two main industries in the struggling economy. Author Jovan Scott Lewis raises unsettling questions about the fairness of a world economy that relegates Caribbean populations to durative sufferation. This groundbreaking book asks whether true reparation for the legacy of colonialism is to be found only through radical—even criminal—means. Lewis, an assistant professor of geography and African American Studies at UC Berkeley, is joined here by Peter James Hudson, associate professor of African American Studies and History at UCLA. This conversation was recorded in November 2020. More about the book: z.umn.edu/scammersyard REFERENCES: Caricom Reparations Commission Walter Rodney Sylvia Wynter Stuart Hall C. L. R. James George Padmore Frantz Fanon Lloyd Best Faye Harrison Beverley Mullings Barry Chevannes Walter Rodney

If you’ve ever wondered what to do with your summer and considered (1) making history, (2) spending the whole thing on a wild 2,000-mile canoe trip, and (3) putting your relationship with your best friend to the ultimate test, then you know exactly what author Natalie Warren has experienced. In the summer after graduating college, Natalie and Ann Raiho set off on the banks of the Minnesota River with the ultimate goal of reaching the Arctic waters of Canada’s Hudson Bay in 90 days or less. Natalie writes all about their journey in her book HUDSON BAY BOUND, and is here today to chat with another history-making explorer, Ann Bancroft, who, along with Liv Arnesen, were the first two women to cross Antarctica. This conversation was recorded in October 2020. More on Hudson Bay Bound: Two Women, One Dog, Two Thousand Miles to the Arctic: z.umn.edu/hudsonbaybound. More on Ann Bancroft's historic journey across Antarctica: z.umn.edu/nohorizon

TIMESCALES is a book that explores how time has seemed to shift in the Anthropocene and examines the human inability to see and to witness time as an element of environmental catastrophe. The volume brings together humanities scholars, scientists, and artists to develop new ways of thinking about the world with its human and nonhuman entanglements and diverse systems of knowledge. Carolyn Fornoff is assistant professor of Latin American culture at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and is co-editor, along with Bethany Wiggin and Patricia Kim, of Timescales. Fornoff is joined here by three volume contributors: Jen Telesca, assistant professor of environmental justice in the Department of Social Science and Cultural Studies at Pratt Institute; Wai Chee Dimock, editor of PMLA, who teaches at Yale University; and Charles Tung, professor of English at Seattle University. This conversation was recorded in December 2020. REFERENCES: -Timescales: Thinking across Ecological Temporalities. z.umn.edu/timescales -Red Gold: The Managed Extinction of the Giant Bluefin Tuna (Jen Telesca) -Modernism and Time Machines (Charles Tung) -Weak Planet: Literature and Assisted Survival (Wai Chee Dimock) -’Salmon’ by Jack Scoltock: https://www.firstpeople.us/native-american-poems/salmon.html -Black ‘47: Native American Poetry (Jack Scoltock) -”Irish support for Native American Covid-19 relief highlights historic bond”: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/09/irish-native-american-coronavirus-historic-bond -Salmon in the Trees (Amy Gulick) -Beyond Settler Time (Mark Rifkin) -“How the Covid-19 pandemic has been curtailed in Cherokee Nation”: https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/17/how-covid19-has-been-curtailed-in-cherokee-nation/ -”The Amazon Is on Fire—Indigenous Rights Can Help Put It Out,” by Naomi Klein: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/08/26/amazon-fire-indigenous-rights-can-help-put-it-out -“Indigenous science (fiction) for the Anthropocene” by Kyle Whyte. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/2514848618777621 -The Human Planet (Mark Maslin and Simon Lewis) MORE TIMESCALES PODCAST EPISODES: -Ep. 17: Why art? On performance, theater, deep time, and the environment. With Patricia Eunji Kim, Kate Farquhar, and Marcia Ferguson: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-17 -Ep. 12: Scientists and humanists talk timescales and climate change. With Bethany Wiggin, Frankie Pavia, Jason Bell, and Jane Dmochowski: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-12

“Historically, women have had to frame their own intellectual advancement in alternative terms.” When writer Edith Wharton died in 1937, her library of more than five thousand volumes was divided and subsequently sold. Decades later, it was reassembled and returned to The Mount, her historic Massachusetts estate. WHAT A LIBRARY MEANS TO A WOMAN is a book by Sheila Liming that examines personal libraries as technologies of self-creation in modern America. For Wharton, a library meant a home, a school, a sense of independence, a place of solitude but not loneliness, and a place where she set rules for herself as a writer and as a reader. Liming is joined here by Nynke Dorhout and Anne Schuyler of The Mount in Lenox, MA, and by Wharton scholar Donna Campbell. This conversation was recorded in December 2020. For more information: z.umn.edu/whatalibrarymeans edithwhartonslibrary.org edithwharton.org whartoncompleteworks.org

When talking about climate change, what do an oceanographer and a literary scholar have in common? How might these distant disciplines begin to speak to each other? TIMESCALES: THINKING ACROSS ECOLOGICAL TEMPORALITIES is a volume that includes frictive chit-chats from scholars from far-flung disciplines and explores what they have to teach each other about the timescales of environmental change. Bethany Wiggin is one of three co-editors of this volume, along with Carolyn Fornoff and Patricia Kim. Wiggin is director of the first established academic program in environmental humanities at a major research university: the Penn Program in Environmental Humanities. She is joined here by oceanographer Frankie Pavia, law student Jason Bell, and geophysicist Jane Dmochowski. This conversation was recorded in November 2020. More information: z.umn.edu/timescales. MORE TIMESCALES PODCAST EPISODES: -Ep. 17: Why art? On performance, theater, deep time, and the environment. With Patricia Eunji Kim, Kate Farquhar, and Marcia Ferguson: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-17 -Ep. 14: Time and the interplay between human history and planetary history. With Carolyn Fornoff, Jen Telesca, Wai Chee Dimock, and Charles Tung: https://soundcloud.com/user-760891605/episode-14

On this podcast, Mindy Greiling, a mental health advocate and former state representative, has hosted a series of conversations around mental health care in Minnesota: the first was with Alisa Roth on the state’s criminal treatment of mental illness, and the second with Dr. George Realmuto on mental health and substance abuse. In this third and final installment in the mental health series, Mindy talks about recovery with John Trepp, who she calls a “maverick” and wishes there were more like him in the mental health system. Trepp is author of Lodge Magic: Real Life Adventures in Mental Health Recovery and is former executive director of Tasks Unlimited, Minnesota’s Fairweather lodge program, which provides housing and recovery services for people with mental illness. This conversation was recorded in September 2020. References: -Fix What You Can by Mindy Greiling: http://z.umn.edu/fixwhatyoucan -Lodge Magic: Real Life Adventures in Mental Health Recovery by John Trepp -Surviving Schizophrenia by E. Fuller Torrey -Tasks Unlimited: https://tasksunlimited.org/ -National Alliance on Mental Illness: https://www.nami.org/ -NAMI Minnesota: https://namimn.org/

Consumption is on pause for a lot of people during the novel coronavirus pandemic. Whether that's given you cause to clean out your stuff or become closer with your stuff, we're here to talk about meaning we assign to the objects around us. Christine Harold is a professor of communication at the University of Washington. Her new book THINGS WORTH KEEPING: The Value of Attachment in a Disposable World, investigates the attachments we form to the objects we buy, keep, and discard, and explores how these attachments might be marshaled to create less wasteful practices and balance our consumerist and ecological impulses. Nicole Seymour is a professor of English based in Southern California whose book BAD ENVIRONMENTALISM: Irony and Irreverence in the Ecological Age seeks out a new way to talk about environmentalism that is less performance and self-righteousness and embraces irony and humor. This conversation was recorded in October 2020. For more information about their books, visit z.umn.edu/thingsworthkeeping and z.umn.edu/badenvironmentalism. References/further reading and watching: Hyerim Shin Wildboyz Rich Doyle’s Darwin’s Pharmacy Jeff Nealon’s Plant Theory Fantastic Fungi, a 2019 documentary

Mindy Greiling was a member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. She has served on state and national boards of the National Alliance on Mental Illness and is on the University of Minnesota Psychiatry Community Advisory Council. George Realmuto is a professor in the department of psychiatry at the University of Minnesota Medical School. Both George and Mindy are parents of children with brain disease. Mindy’s son, Jim, is 42 and was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder in his early twenties. George’s daughter, a mother and an award-winning creative, passed away in 2019 as a result of chemical and mental illness. She would be 38 today. Both are here to share their experiences, their expertise, and their hopes for the future of caring for loved ones facing mental and substance use disorders. This conversation was recorded in September 2020.

Resources:
-National Alliance on Mental Illness: https://www.nami.org/
-NAMI Minnesota: https://namimn.org/

In the era of climate change, how can we imagine better futures? AN ECOTOPIAN LEXICON is a collaborative volume of short, engaging essays that offer ecologically productive terms—drawn from other languages, science fiction, and subcultures of resistance—to envision what could be. The book connects thirty authors and fourteen artists from a range of backgrounds and locations, and three of them are here in discussion today: anthropologist and herbalist Charis Boke, visual artist Michelle Kuen Suet Fung, and Sam Solnick of the University of Liverpool. This conversation was recorded in August 2020. For more information, visit ecotopianlexicon.com. Works and writers referenced in this episode in order of appearance: David Attenborough’s The Private Life of Plants Carolyn Fornoff The Arts of Living on a Damaged Planet, edited by Anna Lowenhaupt Tsing, Heather Anne Swanson, Elaine Gan, and Nils Bubandt bell hooks Evelyn Reilly Karen Barad Donna Haraway Climate Changed by Philippe Squarzoni Thanks to the conversants: Charis Boke, charisboke.com Michelle Kuen Suet Fung, michelleksfung.com Sam Solnick, @LitSciHub on Twitter

In his early twenties, Mindy Greiling’s son, Jim, was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. At the time, and for more than a decade after, Greiling was a Minnesota state legislator who struggled, along with her husband, to navigate and improve the state’s inadequate mental health system. Her book FIX WHAT YOU CAN is an illuminating and frank account of caring for a person with a mental illness, told by a parent and advocate. Greiling is joined here today by Minnesota Public Radio’s mental health reporter Alisa Roth, author of INSANE: AMERICA’S CRIMINAL TREATMENT OF MENTAL ILLNESS. This edited conversation was recorded in August 2020. For more information, please visit z.umn.edu/fixwhatyoucan.

The Anthropocenic condition gives us “a sense of the proximity we have to things we might otherwise have thought very distant from us.” David Farrier, author of Anthropocene Poetics, discusses deep time, extinction, and intimacy, asking how poetry can help us think about and live in the Anthropocene by reframing our intimate relationship with geological time. David is professor of literature and the environment at the University of Edinburgh, and he is joined here in conversation by Adam Dickinson, who is the author of four books of poetry including Anatomic. Adam is a professor in the English department at Brock University in Ontario. This edited conversation was recorded in July 2020. For more information, please visit z.umn.edu/poetics. Topics discussed include diffraction-based poetics; Donna Haraway's reminder that we are kin-making beings; the concept of the Clinamen; Evelyn Reilly; Elizabeth Bishop; Seamus Heaney; Deborah Bird Rose; Karen Barad; Alfred Jarry. Additionally, David and Adam recommend poets whose work addresses the Anthropocene: Brenda Hillman Angela Rawlings Harryette Mullen Juliana Spahr Jen Bervin Alexis Pauline Gumbs Liz Howard Dea Antonsen and Ida Bencke Morten Søndergaard Karin Bolender Amanda Ackerman Craig Santos Perez Sean Hewitt

Miscarriage and infant loss are experiences that disproportionately affect Indigenous women and women of color. WHAT GOD IS HONORED HERE? is the first book of its kind, a literary collection of voices of these women coming together to speak about the traumas and tragedies of womanhood. "We are talking about equity. We are talking about racism. We are talking about all of the things that we’ve been needing to talk about. This work is only still beginning," says co-editor Kao Kalia Yang, who is joined here by co-editor Shannon Gibney and writers Michelle Borok, Soniah Kamal, Jami Nakamura Lin, and Seema Reza. This edited conversation was recorded in July 2020. More about the book: z.umn.edu/wgihh A transcript of this conversation is available: z.umn.edu/t-wgihh

Once a pregnant sixteen-year-old incarcerated in the Minnesota juvenile justice system, now a celebrated writer, arts activist, and teacher who helps others unlock their creative power, Carolyn Holbrook has heeded the call to tell the story of her life. Tell Me Your Names and I Will Testify is a memoir in essays in which Holbrook summons untold stories stifled by pain or prejudice or ignorance, and ultimately demonstrates how creative writing can be a powerful tool for challenging racism. Holbrook was founder of the literary arts organization SASE: The Write Place and now leads More Than a Single Story, a series of community conversations for people of color and indigenous writers and arts activists. She is joined here by Sherrie Fernandez-Williams, a writer based in the Twin Cities and the author of Soft: A Memoir. This edited conversation was recorded in July 2020. More about the book: z.umn.edu/holbrook A transcript of this conversation is available: z.umn.edu/t-holbrook

Digitize and Punish is a comprehensive study of the use of digital technology in American criminal justice. Brian Jefferson shows how the technology has expanded the wars on crime and drugs, enabling our current state of mass incarceration and further entrenching the nation’s racialized policing and punishment. After examining how the criminal justice system conceptualized the benefits of computers to surveil criminalized populations, Jefferson focuses on New York City and Chicago to provide a grounded account of the deployment of digital computing in urban police departments. This conversation between Jefferson and University of Minnesota Press senior editor Pieter Martin was recorded in July 2020. More about the book: z.umn.edu/digitizeandpunish A transcript of this conversation is available: z.umn.edu/t-digitizeandpunish

Isherwood in Transit is a collection of essays that considers Christopher Isherwood as a transnational writer whose identity, politics, and beliefs were constantly transformed by global connections arising from journeys to Germany, Japan, China, and Argentina; his migration to the United States; and his conversion to Vedanta Hinduism in the 1940s. We are here today to talk about Isherwood’s reception and history of publication in the US, as well as what we mean by the title ‘Isherwood in Transit’, which is open to interpretation and refers to the writer’s movement on a personal and spiritual level as much as geographic. Here we have book editors Jim Berg and Chris Freeman, who have coedited several volumes on Isherwood including The Isherwood Century and The American Isherwood. Berg is associate dean of faculty at the Borough of Manhattan Community College in New York City. Freeman is professor of English and gender studies at the University of Southern California. They are joined by University of Minnesota Press director Doug Armato. This conversation was recorded in June 2020. More about the book: z.umn.edu/intransit. A transcript of this conversation is available: z.umn.edu/t-intransit

Red Gold: The Managed Extinction of the Giant Bluefin Tuna is a book that asks why so many big bluefin tuna have vanished from the Atlantic Ocean. Author Jen Telesca notes that the term “red gold” has emerged out of the exorbitant price her ruby-colored flesh commands on the global market; for reference, in January 2019, a 613-pound Pacific bluefin tuna sold at market in Tokyo for an astounding record of $3.1 million US dollars. To research this book, Telesca gained unparalleled access to the International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas (also known as ICCAT) to show that the institution has faithfully executed the task assigned to it by international law: to fish as hard as possible to grow national economies. This interview between Telesca and editor Jason Weidemann was recorded in May 2020. More about the book: http://z.umn.edu/redgold A transcription of this conversation is available: z.umn.edu/t-redgold