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How Does Therapy Culture Undermine True Healing?

Host Curtis Chang talks with physician and author Matthew Loftus about how therapeutic language can distort ordinary suffering, turn disagreement into "gaslighting," and leave people feeling less capable of changing their lives. They examine the overmedicalization of grief and anxiety, the rise of mental health culture in schools, and why churches risk losing their purpose when pastors start acting like therapists.

**This is not an attack on therapy or psychiatric medication. It is a provocative conversation about when mental health care becomes a worldview—and whether our relentless focus on feeling better is actually making us sicker.

02:10 - Therapy Practice vs. Therapy Culture

03:52 - The Importance of Personal Experience

06:34 - The Three Elements of Therapy Culture

10:09 - The Problem with Focusing on Mental Health

13:22 - The Suggestive Power of Diagnosis

15:30 - A Christian Understanding of Suffering

17:57 - Finding Solace in the Midst of Suffering

21:40 - The Role of Medication in Mental Health

25:49 - Knowing When Therapy Becomes Unhelpful

28:30 - The Unique, Healing Functions of the Church

32:21 - How Parents Can Counter Therapy Culture in Schools

35:01 - A Final Word of Encouragement

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Matthew Loftus's Resisting Therapy Culture
• Curtis Chang's Anxiety Opportunity
• Kathryn Greene-McCreight's Darkness Is My Only Companion
• What is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?

Further Reading:

• DSM5 and the Medicalization of Grief: Two Perspectives (article)
• Matter over mind: How mental health symptom presentations shape diagnostic outcomes
• Effectiveness of school-based mental health programs on mental health among adolescents

Scriptures:

• Romans 8:38–39 (ESV)

More From Matthew Loftus:

• Matthew's website
• Matthew's writing at Mere Orthodoxy
• Matthew's articles at Plough

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Bridging Two Worlds: An American Immigrant's Story of Faith, Anxiety, and Political Calling

Today, we are sharing a conversation between Curtis Chang and Lee C. Camp on the Signal Award-winning and 2026 Ambie Award-nominated podcast No Small Endeavor. Hosted by award-winning teacher and Professor of Theology and Ethics Lee C. Camp, No Small Endeavor explores what it means to live a good life through conversations about culture, ideas, and the habits that help people flourish.

In this episode, you'll hear from Curtis Chang as he reflects on his experience as a Chinese American immigrant, former pastor, and public theologian, and argues that anxiety sits at the root of America's political crisis. Chang explains how anxiety is rooted in a fear of future loss, and offers actionable ways to name, face, and move through that anxiety with compassion rather than avoidance.

You'll also hear Chang and Camp dig into how institutions are made up of people rather than systems, why that means they're capable of being healed rather than torn down, and why refocusing on the how of politics rather than just the what is essential to moving beyond our current moment of division.

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00:00:19 - Introducing You to No Small Endeavor

00:04:07 - What Is Curtis Chang's Earliest Memory?

00:05:26 - Immigrant Curtis and Cultural Displacement

00:07:24 - The Subtle Art of Bridge Building

00:11:44 - Henry Kissinger and Harvard

00:16:32 - Reconciliation Work in South Africa

00:20:20 - Is Anxiety an Opportunity?

00:27:54 - Anxiety in American Politics

00:39:20 - Are Institutions Multipliers of Humanity?

00:43:44 - The "How" vs. The "What" of Politics

00:50:21 - Curtis Navigates Cynicism

00:54:23 - Pessimism, Hope, and the Resurrection

00:59:40 - The Practice of Contemplative Prayer

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Listen to episodes and follow No Small Endeavor
• Lee C. Camp's Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians
• Curtis Chang & Nancy French's The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics
• Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self

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What Does the Confederacy's Legacy Mean for the Modern South and Christian America?

Host Curtis Chang and New York Times columnist, and Good Faith podcast "founding friend," David French confront the enduring power of the Confederate myth. David reflects on growing up as a white Southerner in a culture shaped by Confederate symbols, revisionist history, racial injustice, and a deeply rooted shame-and-honor code. Curtis, a Chinese American immigrant, brings an outsider's perspective that challenges familiar assumptions about heritage, memory, and belonging. Together, they examine Confederate monuments, the theological defenses of slavery, the meaning of "heritage, not hate," and whether honest historical reckoning can lead to redemption and reconciliation.

02:51 - Curtis Congratulates David on the Birth of His Latest Grandchild

05:54 - Why Does the Confederacy Still Matter?

10:12 - The South's Distinct Cultural Cohesion

22:19 - "Heritage, Not Hate": A White Southern Perspective

29:52 - Race, Religion, and Revisionism in the South

42:13 - The Resurgence of Explicit Racism

47:20 - What to Do with Confederate Memorials

56:32 - Repenting of Southern Shame-Honor Culture

01:01:32 - Institutions Founded on Injustice Can Carry Spiritual Darkness

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Learn about the Tulsa Race Massacre
• Learn about The Great Migration
• Watch MLK50 Conference (video)
• More about General George H. Thomas
• More about the Southern Baptist Convention and slavery
• What is Kinism
• More about the South's resistance to Reconstruction
• Read the Civil Rights Act of 1964
• Watch: Selma and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (video)

Scriptures:

• Ephesians 6:12 (ESV)
• Colossians 2:15 (ESV)
• Luke 10:25–37 (ESV)
• Matthew 20:16 (ESV)
• Matthew 10:39 (ESV)

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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What can Protestants learn from the Catholic tradition?

Host Curtis Chang and The Atlantic writer and former White House staffer Pete Wehner explore how Catholic social teaching—from subsidiarity and solidarity to the preferential option for the poor—offers a rich framework for Christian public life. They consider the limits of sola scriptura, unpack the importance of intellectual rigor, and define Christian humanism. Curtis and Pete also contrast the public faith of Pope Leo XIV and Vice President JD Vance, asking why faithful Christian witness should shape how believers respond to artificial intelligence and other challenges of our time.

02:31 - Does Catholic Theology Meet a Protestant Need?

04:41 - Tradition Is Powerful

08:43 - Does Sola Scriptura Have Limits?

10:19 - Protestant Traditions and Discernment

13:54 - Catholicism's Robust Frameworks

17:08 - Reclaiming Tradition for Protestants

21:36 - Embracing the Life of the Mind

27:22 - Christian Humanism fand 21st Century Questions

30:08 - A Protestant-Catholic Convergence

37:42 - Comparing Visions: JD Vance and Pope Leo

41:16 - The Power of a Faithful Witness

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Referenced in the Episode:

• Pete Wehner's article American Christians Face a Choice
• Learn about the seven themes of Catholic social teaching
• Carl F. H. Henry's The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism
• Alan Jacobs's The Year of Our Lord 1943: Christian Humanism in an Age of Crisis
• Christian Wiman's My Bright Abyss
• John F. Kennedy's 1960 address to Protestant ministers in Houston (video)
• Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on artificial intelligence, Magnifica Humanitas
• Pope Leo XIII's encyclical on capital and labor, Rerum Novarum
• Daniel K. Williams on J.D. Vances' Communion What Type of Christian is J. D. Vance?
• Miroslav Volf on Forgiveness, Justice, and Reconciliation (video)
• Miroslav Volf & Christian Wiman's Glimmerings

Scriptures Referenced:

• Psalm 127:3–5 (ESV)
• Acts 2:42–47 (ESV)
• Luke 4:1–13 (ESV)

More from Pete Wehner:

• Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic
• Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times

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The Odyssey Isn't About Monsters. It's About Trust.

Before Christopher Nolan brings The Odyssey to the big screen, Curtis Chang and Jessica Hooten Wilson revisit Homer's ancient epic to ask what the story is really about: monsters, homecoming, and the search for truth among intentional lies. They explore why reading The Odyssey still matters in the age of film and AI, how Odysseus forces us to ask who we can trust, and what Christians can learn from Greek myths and pagan gods about the one true God revealed in Scripture.

03:53 - Reading the Homer vs. Watching Matt Damon

05:38 - When to Read the Book First?

11:06 - How "The Odyssey" Changes with the Reader

13:32 - Did A Woman Really Write The Odyssey?

16:50 - What Is The Unreliable Narrator?

23:23 - The Psychological Impact of an Unreliable Narrator

31:27 - A Christian Approach to Greek Mythology

34:37 - Understanding The Greco-Roman Culture of Jesus

41:36 - The Irreplaceable Human Elements of Teaching Literature in the Age of AI

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Homer's The Odyssey (Stanley Lombardo's translation)
• Homer's The Iliad
• Nadya Williams's Christians Reading the Classics
• Yann Martel's Son of Nobody
• Yann Martel's Life of Pi
• Edith Hamilton's Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes
• Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology
• Natalie Haynes's Pandora's Jar: Women in the Greek Myths
• Christopher Nolan's Memento (trailer)
• David Fincher's Fight Club (trailer)
• An Introduction to 1 and 2 Samuel (The story of King David)

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• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica's books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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What Does America's 250th Birthday Mean for Its Future and Our Faith?

To celebrate America's 250th birthday, Curtis Chang is joined by his The After Party partners David French and Russell Moore to ask how Christians should think about patriotism, democracy, and national identity in a divisive age. Comparing the optimism of the 1976 Bicentennial with today's fractured political climate, they explore America's founding ideals, the promises and failures of liberty and equality, the relationship between Christianity and the American experiment, and the dangers of Christian nationalism. Together, they answer listener questions and offer a vision for faithful civic engagement — one marked by gratitude without idolatry, honesty without despair, and allegiance to Christ above every nation.

00:34 - Introduction to America's 250th Birthday

02:07 - Comparing the 250th with the Bicentennial

09:18 - America's Gifts to the World

16:16 - Was America Founded as a Christian Nation?

25:13 - The Pull of Christian Nationalism

29:29 - Project 2025 & What True American Renewal Requires

36:07 - A Bottom Up Christian Influence on Government

40:30 - Politics is Downstream from Culture

45:14 - Guidance for Pastors on the 250th

48:24 - America's Historical Role in the World

52:22 - Defining Christian Patriotism

58:03 - A Closing Prayer For Our Country

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More to Listen to:

• Good Faith 199 – David French asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist?
• Good Faith 181 – Can the Church Resist Political Extremism Again? With Paul D. Miller
• Good Faith 36 – The Religion of American Greatness
• Good Faith 207 – N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, and the Armor of God

Referenced in the Episode:

• Remembering the American Bicentennial Celebration
• Remembering Operation Sail
• Remembering the Miracle on Ice
• Article: Christian Nationalism's Dark Forebears by David French
• Ben Rhodes' All We Say: The Battle for American Identity: A History in 15 Speeches
• Jon Meacham's American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House
• Legal Philosophy and the Founding Fathers
• James Madison's Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments
• Who was the minister, Roger Williams?
• John Locke's influence and Christian faith & legal philosophy of the American founding
• The story of Thomas Jefferson & Rev. John Leland
• Understanding Frederick Douglass and the Constitution
• Article: How Viktor Orbán's Hungary Eroded the Rule of Law and Free Markets
• PEPFAR: President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
• Who is Freddy, the German?

Scriptures Referenced:

• 1 Timothy 2:1–6 (ESV)
• John 18:36 (ESV)
• Colossians 1:15–17 (ESV)
• Micah 6:8 (ESV)
• Luke 3:12–14 (ESV)
• Philippians 3:20 (ESV)

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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How Are Protestants Navigating a Moral and Spiritual Vacuum in Evangelicalism?

Host Curtis Chang talks with former White House staffer and Atlantic columnist Pete Wehner about why Pope Leo XIV is resonating with Protestants and evangelicals despite historic theological divides. Together, they explore the Pope's moral leadership while contrasting his dignified, intellectually grounded public witness with Donald Trump's increasingly erratic influence on evangelical political culture. The conversation examines a perceived spiritual leadership vacuum within Protestantism and calls pastors, congregations, and followers of Jesus to cultivate beauty, goodness, and truth as a long-term path toward renewing Christian public witness.

00:34 - Introduction to Pope Leo XIV's Influence

02:29 - Is There a Protestant Appreciation for Catholicism?

03:59 - What Is This Pope's Impact on Public Theology?

06:06 - Papal Influence in Past Administrations

11:19 - The Collapse of Evangelical Public Theology

14:18 - Can Protestants Still Exert Moral Influence?

21:16 - The "Mad King" and Trump's Cognitive Decline

28:42 - What Can Pastors Do?

32:00 - The Importance of Beauty, Goodness, and Truth

37:08 - What Is The Pope's Transcendent Influence?

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Referenced in the Episode:

• Pete Wehner's article "The American Pope vs. the American President"
• Pete Wehner's article "The Apotheosis of Donald Trump"
• Pope Leo XIV's Encyclical Letter: Magnifica Humanitas
• The Madness of King George (YouTube free with ads)
• David Bentley Hart's The Beauty of the Infinite
• Wordsworth's The Prelude, Book 14
• Good Faith's course: The After Party

Scriptures Referenced:

• 1 Timothy 3 (ESV)
• Titus 1 (ESV)

Protestant and Catholic Leaders Referenced:

• Pope John Paul II
• Pope Benedict XVI
• Pope Francis
• Reinhold Niebuhr
• C.S. Lewis
• Billy Graham
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer
• John Stott
• Karl Barth
• Oliver O'Donovan
• Rowan Williams
• Dr. Tim Keller

More from Pete Wehner:

• Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic
• Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times

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How Can Freedom, Faith, and the Fight Beyond A Holiday Shape Us?

Host Curtis Chang talks with sociologist Dr. Angel Adams Parham about the history of Juneteenth, from the 1865 emancipation announcement in Galveston, Texas, to its meaning for American freedom, racial justice, and collective memory. Together, they explore the spiritual resilience of the Black church, its influence on Christian theology and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and why Juneteenth matters for all Americans. They also consider how Christians can celebrate Juneteenth with both joy and historical honesty.

02:05 - The Historical Story of Juneteenth

05:11 - What Were the Limitations of the Emancipation Proclamation?

09:28 - An American Pattern of Incomplete Freedom

13:34 - How Do We Preserve the Meaning of Juneteenth?

19:24 - The Pain of Historical Erasure & Cultural Setbacks

23:43 - Scripture as a Freedom Narrative Fostering Resilience

29:22 - The Universal Longing To Be Free

32:06 - The Black Church's Contribution to the Christian Story

35:54 - Embodied Practices for Juneteenth

39:09 - The Spiritual Promise of "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot"

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Referenced in the Episode:

• Transcript of The Emancipation Proclamation
• Union General Gordon Granger's announcement: General Order No. 3
• Claude Atcho's Reading Black Books
• Frederick Douglass' "What to the Slave Is the Fourth of July?" (pdf)
• Transcription of an interview with ex-slave Felix Haywood
• Reggie L. Williams' Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus
• Phillis Wheatley's letter to Rev. Samson Occom
• James Weldon Johnson's poem Lift Every Voice and Sing
• Manhattan Harmony Four's recording Lift Every Voice And Sing
• The Fisk University Quartet's Swing Low, Sweet Chariot

Scriptures Referenced:

• Exodus 12:31–15:21 (ESV)
• Isaiah 61 (ESV)
• Leviticus 25 (ESV)
• Luke 4:14–30 (ESV)

More From Dr. Angel Adams Parham:

• Dr. Parham's bio: the University of Virginia
• Dr. Parham's Website
• Dr. Parham's book The Black Intellectual Tradition: Reading Freedom in Classical Literature

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What does it mean to stay fully human in the age of AI?

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Pulitzer Prize finalist and acclaimed technology critic Nicholas Carr to explore how AI, social media, and digital life are reshaping human attention, identity, education, and spiritual formation. Carr warns that technologies promising efficiency often erode the embodied presence, deep thinking, struggle, and meaningful friction that make us fully human. Together, Curtis and Nicholas uncover surprising common ground in the urgent work of preserving human dignity in the age of artificial intelligence.

00:37 - Introduction to Nicholas Carr and His work

03:52 - What Is Technology's Social Impact

04:03 - Disembodied Communication and Negative Emotions

05:27 - What It Means to Be Truly Human

11:32 - Information vs. Formation

14:38 - Why Is AI So Unsettling?

18:54 - Stop Rushing the Adoption of AI in Education

22:02 - AI and the Erosion of the Self

25:08 - An Institutional Response to AI

27:36 - Forming the Next Generation

31:10 - Countercultural Imperatives for Leaders

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Nicholas Carr's The Atlantic article "Is Google Making Us Stupid?"
• Nicholas Carr's The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains
• Nicholas Carr's Superbloom: How Technologies of Connection Tear Us Apart
• Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation
• Vatican document on AI, Antiqua et Nova
• The Christian Scholars' Conference at Pepperdine University

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• Nicholas Carr's website
• Nicholas Carr's Substack: New Cartographies
• Nichoals Carr's blog: Rough Type

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Have You Ever Met a Secular Professor Who Became a Christian?

In this episode of Good Faith, Curtis Chang talks with historian and UNC professor Molly Worthen about her surprising journey from secular skeptic to Christian believer—and what her story reveals about faith, doubt, college, and perceived crises in higher education. They explore why so many Christian students struggle with faith on secular campuses, how parents can help college-bound kids find mentors and community, and how Christian study centers are creating spaces for honest questions, intellectual formation, and spiritual growth. Molly also explains why the search for meaning in the age of AI may open new doors for Christian faith to thrive.

02:58 - Professor Molly Worthen Describes Her Faith Journey

06:22 - Is The Resurrection a Historical Truth?

10:23 - Molly's Leap of Faith Was Intellectual

11:25 - Why Do Students Leave Church in College?

13:48 - The Role of Christian Study Centers

19:49 - Students Seeking Mentorship

25:41 - Faith, Politics, and Crisis of Meaning

29:43 - The Timeless Questions of Faith Are Still the Dominant Ones

31:14 - What's The Professional Cost of Being a Public Christian on Campus?

34:01 - Can You Have a Healthy Relationship With Doubt?

39:28 - Advice for Parents of College-Bound Students

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Molly Worthen's Spellbound
• LifeWay Research: Most Teenagers Drop Out of Church as Young Adults
• Tim Keller's The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism

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• Molly Worthen's faculty page at UNC
• Molly Worthen's website
• Molly Worthen's Apostles of Reason: The Crisis of Authority in American Evangelicalism

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Are Aliens Demons, Our Cosmic Neighbors, or Something Stranger?

Host Curtis Chang and author Andy Crouch explore the theological implications of UFOs, extraterrestrial life, and the possibility that humans are not the only created beings in the cosmos. They ask whether aliens should be understood as material creatures, angels and demons, image bearers, or cosmic neighbors—and what Scripture, Christian theology, and even Aquinas suggest about our human uniqueness. Along the way, they consider whether first contact would reveal Christian love, humility, and wonder—or our instinct toward fear and domination.

00:47 - Introduction to Alien Life and Declassified UFO Reports

02:19 - Do Aliens Exist?

08:32 - The Value of Pondering Alien Life

13:02 - Aliens vs. Angels and Demons

23:18 - God's Mysterious Creatures in Scripture

27:42 - The Octopus Dilemma and Human Specialness

38:26 - Missional Work and Alien Life?

44:26 - The Nature of God's Love

48:49 - Domination or Love : The Human Response to Aliens

50:58 - Andy Imagines Worshipping with Cosmic Neighbors

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Scriptures Referenced:

• Job 1–2 (ESV)
• Job 38–41 (ESV)
• Genesis 1–2 (ESV)
• Genesis 4 (ESV)
• Ephesians 2 (ESV)
• 2 Peter 1:4 (ESV)
• Romans 8 (ESV)
• Isaiah 11 (ESV)
• Romans 10 (ESV)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• UFO-related declassified files
• UAP disclosure
• Meghan Sullivan and Notre Dame's DELTA project
• What is the Fermi paradox?
• Eleanor Stump's Wandering in Darkness: Narrative and the Problem of Suffering
• C.S. Lewis's Perelandra
• Andy Weir's Project Hail Mary: A Novel
• A scene from Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind
• A scene from Steven Spielberg's E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
• A scene from Denis Villeneuve's Arrival
• St. Thomas Aquinas's Summa Theologica: reason / will / dominion
• Salvation as Theosis: The Teaching of Eastern Orthodoxy (article)
• Isaiah's peaceable kingdom
• Thunderbird in Native American traditions
• Do octopus brains work like humans'? (article)
• Pythagoras and Johannes Kepler's Musica Universalis or the Music of the Spheres

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• Check out Andy's website
• Check out Andy's work at Praxis
• Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For

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Is Mortality the Enemy of a Meaningful Life?

Curtis Chang sits down with psychologist Dr. Dan Allender for a searching conversation about aging, mortality, Christian hope, and the surprising freedom of growing older. Together, they explore why getting older is not merely decline, but an invitation to deeper purpose, tenderness, grace, and wisdom—especially in a culture determined to deny death. From caring for aging parents to reimagining retirement, Dan and Curtis offer biblical insight and personal honesty for anyone seeking renewed purpose, peace, and courage as we grow older.

00:43 - Introduction to Aging Well Spiritually, Not Physically

03:25 - Psalm 90 and When to Start Thinking About Age?

05:40- Why Does Our Culture Avoid Aging?

09:52 - Are There Gifts in Getting Older?

19:10 - Counting Your Days: A Biblical Perspective

25:05- Psalm 92: The Righteous Stay Vital By Serving Others

29:14 - The Problem with Retirement Culture

34:32 - What About the "Sandwich Generation"?

40:55 - Our Inner Emotional Age

44:45 - The Power of Story From Lives Well Lived

50:20 - Tending to Your Past Selves

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Scriptures Referenced:

• Psalm 90:12 (all versions)
• Psalm 92:14 (all versions)
• Genesis 16 (ESV)
• Hebrews 4:11 (all versions)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Dylan Thomas's Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night
• Good Faith podcast episode 211: Nancy French's Joyful Grandparenting Lessons & Living Like Tomorrow Isn't Guaranteed
• Schindler's List scene: "I didn't do enough"

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• The Allender Center resources
• Dan Allender at The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology
• The Allender Center Podcast

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What Is Spiritual Weariness and How Can We Find Renewal?

In this episode of The Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang chats with Tish Harrison Warren—Anglican priest, former New York Times columnist, and author of What Grows in Weary Lands—about burnout, spiritual weariness, and the exhaustion that escapism and rest alone cannot fix. Tish explains how polarization, digital distraction, consumerism, and isolation can leave us tempted to "flame out" or "numb out." Instead, she invites listeners to "go deeper" through prayer, silence, embodied community, Sabbath, and the difficult but meaningful commitments that lead to lasting renewal.

00:36 - Introduction to World Weariness

02:43 - Tish Describes the Draining Experience of Public Faith

06:04 - What Are the Cultural Factors of Collective Burnout?

13:01 - Dysfunctional Responses: Reinvention and Escape

15:01 - Flame Out, Numb Out, or Go Deep

20:51 - Are There Practical Steps to Go Deep?

23:29 - The Practice of "Staying in Your Cell"

26:40 - The Tough Sell of Going Deeper

32:07 - The "Dark Night of the Soul" as a Growth Stage

36:11 - Learning from Historic Church Practices

38:04 - What Do Healthy Rhythms of Engagement and Withdrawal Look Like?

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Tish Harrison Warren's What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience
• The Ezra Klein Show: Burned Out? Start Here.
• Curt Thompson on Covid-era digital fatigue
• Thomas Aquinas's idea of arduous goods
• St. John of the Cross's The Dark Night of the Soul
• Stanley Hauerwas: Evangelicalism Will Die of Exhaustion (conversation with Al Mohler)
• the Desert Fathers and Mothers: "Stay in your cell"

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• Tish Harrison Warren's website
• Tish Harrison Warren's New York Times pieces
• Other books by Tish Harrison Warren

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What Can Lead a Weary Soul to the Divine in a Post-Christian World?

Malcolm Guite is back for part two of our chat with him, and this time we go from atheism to awe, from the Psalms to the Holy Grail, and from Keats to King Arthur. Malcolm tells the wild story of how poetry cracked open his imagination and shattered his unbelief, leading him into the living presence of God — then shows why Galahad and the Grail might be the ancient, weird, luminous story our burned-out, disenchanted world needs now.

00:00 - The Sonnet Epiphany 1. Magi

01:28 - Introduction to Malcolm Guite Part 2

03:37 - From Atheism to Wonder

06:27 - Encountering Keats's "Ode to a Nightingale"

12:11 - The Augustinian Idea of Beauty

15:18 - You Are Not the Center of the Universe

20:44 - "Take Up the Tale" A Ballad Introducing Guite's Arthurian Epic

23:54 - Why Does Retelling the Arthurian Legends Matter Now?

25:06 - The Truth of the Wasteland in the Modern World

27:19 - Conclusion and Credits

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Malcolm Guite's Galahad in the Grail
• Malcolm Guite's Epiphany 1 The magi
• Malcolm Guite's Sounding the Seasons
• C.S. Lewis's Surprised by Joy
• John Keats' Ode to a Nightingale
• Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo's The Confessions Of Saint Augustine

Scriptures Referenced In This Episode:

• Psalm 145 (1928 BCP)
• The Psalms (Coverdale edition) PDF version

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• Malcolm Guite's website and blog
• Malcolm Guite's Youtube channel
• Malcolm Guite's books

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Is Ukraine's Fight Against Tyranny Already America's Failure?

New York Times opinion writer and Iraq War veteran David French joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith podcast to explain why Ukraine may be the world-changing war Americans are ignoring. David argues that Ukraine's resistance to Russia has exposed America's retreat from moral leadership, transformed the global balance of power, and elevated Zelensky as one of the most consequential leaders of our time. From Trump's impact on NATO to Europe's growing defense buildup, Curtis and David explore what Ukraine reveals about U.S. power, Christian responsibility, global justice, and the fight against tyranny.

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02:41 - A Shift in the Balance of Power

08:51 - Ukraine's Rise as a World Power

10:03 - The "Trump Effect" on Germany, France, & Japan

16:30 - A Response to the Left's "Good Riddance to America" Argument

19:40 - Is the U.S. an unreliable partner?

25:41 - Why Americans Should Care About Global Affairs

30:00 - Who Is My Global Neighbor?

32:03 - Evangelicals' Narrow Political Focus

38:18 - Zelensky The Unlikely Hero

45:27 - Are There Virtues to Emulate from Zelensky?

Mentioned in This Episode:

• David French's article Meet the New Leader of the Free World
• Canadian P. M. Mark Carney's speech "middle powers must act together"
• President Zelensky's February 24, 2022 address to Ukraine
• Jeffrey A. Friedman: The Myth of a Bipartisan Golden Age for U.S. Foreign Policy: The Truman-Eisenhower Consensus Remains
• Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies

Scriptures:

• The Good Samaritan Luke 10:24-37 (ESV)
• Matthew 10:16-23 (ESV)

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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Is There a Hidden Power of Communion in a Hopeless Age?

Hannah Miller King joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith podcast to discuss her book Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness and why communion is more than a symbolic church ritual. Together, they explore the Lord's Supper, Christian hope, embodied worship, and how the table of God forms Christians to resist consumer culture and carry resurrection-shaped love into a hopeless world. They discuss why this embodied practice connects believers to Christ's past sacrifice, present grace, and future return and show how the practice retrains our loves and sends us outward in mission.

02:28 - What Does Union with Christ Look Like Across All Traditions?

05:04 - The Differences: Symbolic vs. Sacramental Views

12:13 - Does the Lord's Supper Connect to Daily Life?

15:40 - Is It a Means of Hope in a Hopeless World?

26:40 - Is The Richness In "Remembering" Christ's Past, Present, and Future?

29:50 - Detaching From Worldly Loves to Re-Attach to God

33:10 - The Power of Routine Practice

35:09 - A Commission to Welcome Others

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Hannah Miller King's book — Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness

Scriptures Referenced:

• Luke 22:19 (ESV)
• The Last Supper / Institution of Communion: Luke 22:14–20 (ESV), Matthew 26:26–29 (ESV), or Mark 14:22–25 (ESV)
• 1 Corinthians 11:23–26 (ESV)
• Revelation 19:6–9 (ESV)
• Exodus 12 (ESV)

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• Hannah Miller King's article at Christianity Today
• Hannah Miller King's website

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Imagination Combined with Reason Can Build a Sturdier Faith.

Malcolm Guite invites us to recover a "baptized imagination," showing how poetry can do real theological work by carrying truth through image, beauty, sacrament, and story. Rather than replacing reason, imagination helps us perceive meaning—opening Scripture, creation, and the mystery of Christ in ways analysis alone cannot reach.

00:00 - A Sonnet for Saint Peter

01:16 - Introduction to the Episode

03:32 - Can Poetry Do Theology?

09:02 - What Is the Baptized Imagination?

11:09 - Reason, Imagination, and Meaning with C.S. Lewis

17:24 - The Eternal Act of Creation

20:07 - Conclusion and Preview of Part 2

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Malcolm Guite's Galahad in the Grail
• Malcolm Guite's Parable and Paradox
• William Shakespoeare's Sonnet 18: Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
• George Herbert's poem The Agonie
• C.S. Lewis's Bluspels and Flalansferes
• C.S. Lewis on Imagination and Reason in Christian Apologetics
• Samuel Taylor Coleridge's Biographia Literaria

Scriptures Referenced In This Episode:

• 1 Corinthians 2 (ESV)
• Luke 22:19-20 (NJKV)
• Luke 10:27 (NKJV)
• John 1:1 (NIV)
• Psalm 19:1 (KJV)

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• Malcolm Guite's website and blog
• Malcolm Guite's Youtube channel
• Malcolm Guite's books

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How Can We Raise Capable Kids Without Rescuing Them?

David Thomas, co-executive director of Daystar Counseling and co-author of Capable, joins Curtis Chang for a timely conversation on Christian parenting, kids' mental health, and raising resilient children in an age of anxiety. They explore why today's parenting culture can accidentally make kids less capable—and how faith, courage, and emotional resilience can help families face struggle without fear. If you're raising kids in this world shaped by stress, screens, and social pressure, this episode offers grounded, practical wisdom.

02:32 - It's Been a Decade of Youth Mental Health Crisis and Parental Stress

06:10 - Distinctively Christian Parenting vs. Secular Approaches

11:06 - Parenting as Spiritual Formation

16:31 - Has Language Inflation Made Parental Modeling More Important?

19:26 - How Do Some Parental Practices Undermine Capability?

25:39 - Managing Parental Discomfort and Allowing Growth

30:59 - Parenting as a Context for Parental Growth

32:02 - Death to Self and Parenting Young Adults

34:34 - Empathy and Questions: A Parental Script

36:43 - How Do Empathy and Agency Image God in Parenting?

38:17- Encouragement for Exhausted and Stuck Parents

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• David Thomas & Sissy Goff's Capable: How to Teach Your Kids the Strengths, Skills, and Strategies to Build Resilience
• David's co-author Sissy Goff
• Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation
• Jonathan Haidt's substack After Babel
• Katherine and Jay Wolf's Hope Heals

Scriptures Referenced:

• John 16:33 (ESV)
• 2 Corinthians 3:18 (ESV)
• Romans 8:29 (ESV)
• Genesis 4:26 (ESV)

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• Listen to David's podcast: Raising Boys & Girls (with Sissy Goff, David Thomas, and Melissa Trevathan)
• Explore Daystar Counseling in Nashville, Tennessee
• Follow David on instagram: Raising Boys and Girls
• Other books by David Thomas

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How Does the Church Sings Through Suffering and Why Do the Songs Matter?

Grammy Award nominee and Dove Award winner Matt Maher joins the Good Faith podcast for a conversation about the power of songs and church music to tell the truth about suffering. Reflecting on protest, justice, prophetic art, ecumenism, and even Rich Mullins, Maher explores how the church can hold lament and praise together while still pointing people to the hope and holiness of God. Drawing on Psalm 22 and Jesus' cry of abandonment on the cross, he argues that the church, like Jesus, must sing honestly about pain and abandonment without losing sight of the worship and honor God deserves.

*This episode was recorded live at the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference

00:00:00 - Tease: The Duality of Abandonment and Praise

00:01:00 - Introduction from Curtis Chang

05:31 - Conversion and the Impact of Catholic Liturgy on His Faith

08:13 - Theology in Songwriting and Collaboration

09:57- Can Ecumenism Expand Your Perspective?

13:06 - John 17 and Praying for Church Unity

14:35 - Prophetic Calling Comforts the Afflicted and Challenges the Comfortable

16:38 - Protest Themes and the Burden of Truth

20:30 - Holding Space for Both Praise and Lament

21:55 - Christian Justice Movements and Prophetic Action

24:02 - The After Party Album and Amos's Call to Justice

24:11 - That He Will Overcome (musical insert)

26:29 - The Toppling of Empire Lyrics as Inspired by Dr. Mika Edmonson

29:04 - The Neurological and Physical Impact of Music on Memory and Community

34:03 - Personal Storytelling and Lament To Work Out Hard Things

40:00 - Rich Mullins' Influence and Legacy

41:24 - What Is The Song the Church Needs Now, In These Crazy Times?

43:48 - A Warning From Nazi Germany Against Ignoring Suffering

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• The Nicene Creed and the History of the Council of Nicaea
• Matt Maher's Echoes album (Spotify)
• Matt Maher's Your Grace Is Enough
• Matt Maher's The Stories I Tell Myself
• Matt Maher's The Stories I Tell Myself (Acoustic video)
• Matt Maher, DOE, Dee Wilson, & The Porter's Gate's That We Might Overcome
• Listen to the album The Kingdom of Jesus: Songs For The After Party
• Rich Mullins' Canticle of The Plains (full album on Youtube)
• Rich Mullins' The Joy of Jesus (feat. Matt Maher, Mac Powell, & Ellie Holcomb)
• More about Francis Chan

Scriptures Referenced:

• Psalm 22 (ESV)
• John 17 (ESV)
• John 14:6 (ESV)
• Amos 5-6 (ESV)

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• See Matt on tour
• Matt Maher's website
• Subscribe to Matt's email list
• Listen to Matt Maher on Spotify

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Why Relying on One Bible Teacher Isn't Enough—and What to Do About It

In this Good Faith Podcast bonus short, N.T. Wright shares practical, accessible guidance on how to read the Bible with deeper understanding, moving beyond surface-level devotion into the rich world of biblical context, Scripture study, and Christian discipleship. Wright explains why exploring texts like Josephus, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Apocrypha, and the Apostolic Fathers can help modern believers interpret the New Testament more faithfully and confidently. He also offers a personal glimpse into his lifelong daily Bible reading practice, revealing how Scripture, prayer, and the Psalms have shaped his faith from childhood to today.

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• John Goldingay & N.T. Wright's The Bible for Everyone
• Books by Richard Middleton
• Books by Walter Brueggemann
• The Complete Works of Josephus (pdf)
• The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls (pdf)
• Resource For Writings of the Apostolic Fathers (e.g., Ignatius, Clement, Polycarp)

More from N.T. Wright:

• N.T. Wright's book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal
• N.T. Wright Online
• N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements
• N.T. Wright's books

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Are Violent Bible Passages Being Used to Justify War?

Pete Wehner, former White House official and writer for The Atlantic, joins Curtis Chang to examine how violent Old Testament "holy war" texts are being invoked in today's political and cultural debates, including by Pete Hegseth and voices tied to the Trump administration. Pete and Curtis explore the war in Iran, Bible interpretation, the character of God, and why Christians must read troubling Bible passages through the lens of Jesus and the cross before making life-and-death moral judgments.

02:37 - Holy War Texts and Public Policy

03:37 - Pete Hegseth and the Invocation of Holy War

08:32 - The Real-World Consequences of Misreading Scripture

17:21 - Wrestling with Disturbing Texts

22:28 - The Necessity of Disturbance and Christocentric Reading

31:07 - What Is the Historical Role of Allegorical Interpretation?

35:17 - Jewish and Rabbinic Traditions of Wrestling with Text

37:21 - Tim Keller: Christ's Character as Interpretive Key

42:58 - The Importance of Literary Reasoning

46:37 - Literal but Time-Specific Commands

52:15 - A Warning Against Overconfidence

54:04 - Debating for Truth, Not Victory

56:09 - The Real-World and Personal Stakes of Biblical Interpretation

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Pete Wehner's article Pete Hegseth's Moral Unseriousness
• Understanding Pete Hegseth's connection to Douglas Wilson: What is CREC and how does it shape Pete Hegseth's religious rhetoric?
• President George W. Bush's National Cathedral Speech
• What is the Christian Reconstructionist Movement?
• What is Just War Theory?
• Gregory A. Boyd's The Crucifixion of the Warrior God, Vol. 1 & 2
• Gregory A Boyd's Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament Violence
• Tremper Longman's The Old Testament as Literature: Foundations for Christian Interpretation
• More about C.S. Lewis & Owen Barfield

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• Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic
• Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times

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Is AI Helping Us Flourish or Making Us Less Human?

Andy Crouch joins Curtis Chang for a timely conversation on AI, Christianity, human flourishing, and the future of being human. Together they explore whether artificial intelligence will deepen human relationships or replace them, why prediction is not the same as prophecy, and how Christians can pursue embodied community, reconciliation, and faithful living in the age of AI.

04:31 - Technology Adoption and Cultural Change

09:05 - AI's Subtle Presence and Future Potential

12:30 - AI and Work-Life Balance

14:36 - Risks of AI Replacing Relationships

15:35 - Loneliness and AI Relationships

20:43 - Practical Steps Toward Relationships

28:36 - A call to cultivate deep relationships before the AI "tsunami."

29:54 - Human Distinctiveness: Prediction vs. Prophecy

35:13 - AI, Consciousness, and the Image of God

41:04 - What are the responsibilities of Christians working in AI?

45:49 - Redemptive Technology

46:24 - Andy expresses grief and concern for dehumanization.

48:03 - God's redemptive purpose despite anticipated losses from AI

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• Rosaria Butterfield's The Gospel Comes with a House Key
• Good Faith episode 107: Where is AI Taking Us Spiritually? (with James Cham and John Kim)
• American Psychological Association: Many teens are turning to AI chatbots for friendship and emotional support
• Psychology Today: AI Use in Dating Jumps 333%
• Video: AI Allows Man with ALS to 'Speak' Again

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• Check out Andy's website
• Check out Andy's work at Praxis
• Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For

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The Power of Presence: How Connection Transcends Cognitive Loss

Show Notes: Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, In this episode. Jim, a devoted husband and caregiver, shares moving stories about his wife Carolyn's vibrant life and their journey through her frontotemporal dementia diagnosis. Inspired by Curtis and Good Faith guest Professor John Swinton, a theologian and former nurse, Jim explores the theological significance of being remembered by God, and the enduring value of personhood beyond memory.

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Are Megachurches, Christian Influencers, and Artificial Intelligence Breaking the Church?

This week on the Good Faith podcast, Katelyn Beaty joins host Curtis Chang to confront the church's growing addiction to celebrity culture, asking how celebrity pastors, megachurch platforms, and AI are changing the way Christians are formed. Curtis even asks Katelyn to evaluate whether his public persona and the Good Faith platform risk becoming part of the very problem they're critiquing. If faith is becoming more online, more branded, and less embodied, this conversation asks the hard question: what happens to authentic Christian community, spiritual growth, and discipleship when personality starts to outrun the way of Jesus?

02:06 - Defining Persona vs. Fame

04:14 - Embodied Relationships vs. Platform

05:17 - Curtis's Personal Experience with Platform

09:56 - Dangers of Platform Culture for the Church

14:27 - Curtis's Dilemma: Content vs. Persona

17:58 - Navigating Platform Tensions as a Christian Leader

20:09 - Case Studies: Celebrity Gone Wrong and Right

25:34 - Community and Spiritual Formation Beyond Megachurches

30:10 - Technology, Evangelicals, and the Attention Economy

33:00 - AI and the Future of Persona and Platform

36:12 - Final Hope: Embodied, Material Christian Life

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Mentioned in This Episode:

• More about Katelyn Beaty
• Katelyn Beaty's Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church
• TIME: The True Story Behind the FX Documentary Series The Secrets of Hillsong
• Christianity Today's podcast: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill
• New York Times: How the Willow Creek Church Scandal Has Stunned the Evangelical World
• More about Eugene Peterson
• Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity

More From Katelyn Beaty:

• Katelyn Beaty's Substack The Beaty Beat
• Katelyn Beaty's podcast Saved by the City
• Katelyn Beaty's A Woman's Place Participant Guide: A Bible Study Exploring Every Woman's Call to Work

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From Breakthroughs to Budget Cuts: The Rollercoaster of Modern Medical Research

What happens when politics wages war on science—and Christians get caught in the blast radius? In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang talks with former NIH director Dr. Francis Collins and BioLogos president Dr. Kristine Torjesen about Collins' forced exit from NIH, the shutdown of a major HIV prevention programs in Africa, and how cuts to vaccines, medical research, and public health are threatening lives and future breakthroughs in cancer, Alzheimer's, and pandemic preparedness. They also confront vaccine distrust, anti-institution politics, and evangelical skepticism of science, while making the case that science is not the enemy of faith but a gift from God for truth, healing, and human flourishing.

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05:56 - Political Interference in Science Roles, Research, and Aid Cuts

10:57 - Are Medical Advances Threatened by Political Decisions?

16:03 - Curtis Gets Candid About Unexpected Benefits of Medical Aid in His Life

17:34 - Vaccine Policy Changes and Anti-Vax Influence

20:46 - Engaging Christians Who Distrust Science

25:39 - What Lessons Can We Learn from COVID Vaccine Promotion

28:32 - Is Science Politically Biased?

36:15 - Distrust of Institutions and Its Roots

44:45 - Equipping Pastors and Parents for Faith-Science Conversations

46:59 - Hopeful Medical Advances Despite Setbacks

50:15 - Science as a Source of Beauty and Worship

Scriptures:

• John 14:6 (ESV)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Check out the Biologos website
• Announcement: Dr. Kristine Torjesen becomes BioLogos' 3rd president and CEO
• Biologos: Kristine Torjesen's Professional Biography
• NIH Bio: Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D.
• NIH: Decades in the Making: mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
• KFF (The independent source for health policy research and news): COVID-19 preventable mortality
• Brooke Nichols: Tracking Anticipated Deaths from USAID Funding Cuts
• Check out the Impact Counter

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• Dr. Francis Collins' The Road to Wisdom: On Truth, Science, Faith, and Trust

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Refusing Despair Amidst Cultural Darkness

What does it look like to cheerfully refuse a collapsing culture without giving in to cynicism, fear, or despair? Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University— dive into Leif Enger's I Cheerfully Refuse, exploring why great novels still matter, how Christians can resist ideations of apocalypse with joy, and what faith-filled fiction reveals about beauty, truth, and survival in dark times. This conversation is for listeners hungry for cultural commentary,hopeful resistance, and deeper ways of reading the world through faith.

01:28 - Challenges of Reading Contemporary Novels

06:03 - The Meaning Behind the Title "I Cheerfully Refuse"

07:47 - Lessons for Dark Times

10:02 - The Enduring Power of Books vs. New Media

12:16 - Cultivating Fruitful Practices in Dark Times

14:36 - Living as a Cheerful Refuser Today

15:02 - Is the Christian Worldview True Reality Or A Bubble?

17:04 - What Is Enger's Idea of True humanity?

18:19 - Recommendations for Similar Books and Authors

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Mentioned In This Episode:

Leif Enger's I Cheerfully Refuse

Leif Enger's Peace Like a River

Leif Enger's Virgil Wander

Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451

Claude Acho's Reading Black Books

Eugene Vodolazkin's Laurus

Rumor Godden's In This House of Brede

Dylan Thomas' Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

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Jessica Hooton Wilson's The Scandal of Holiness

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• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica's books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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The Intersection of Trump, Iran, and the Moral Limits of War

What should Christians think about the U.S. war with Iran, Israel's role in the conflict, and the risk of a wider Middle East war? In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang and New York Times columnist David French unpack the escalating U.S.-Iran war through the lens of Christian theology, just war theory, constitutional checks and balances, and the moral limits of presidential power. They explore whether America's military action against Iran is just, legal, or dangerously reckless, while also addressing Israel, regime change, MAGA foreign policy, and the growing risk of a wider global conflict. Join David and Curtis for a thoughtful framework for understanding war in a volatile moment.

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02:32 - Did Anyone See This Coming?

04:51 - Distinguishing Just and Legal Wars

09:25 - Evaluating America's War Against Iran

14:46 - Why Hasn't Congress Acted?

17:59 - Truthfulness of the Administration

22:32 - Potential Consequences of Prolonged War

33:12 - What About the Theory That Trump's War is a Diversion From Personal Scandals?

39:04 - Evangelical Support for Israel

44:08 - Are We Heading Toward World War III?

53:49 - Christian Prayer and Moral Response

Scriptures:

• 1 Timothy 2:1–2 (ESV)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• A primer on Just War Theory
• Augustine and Just War Theory
• The UN Charter Chapter VII, Article 51: the use of force and collective self-defense
• What is the War Powers Resolution?
• Abraham Lincoln'sLetter to Congress: January 12, 1848 (Speech regarding Mexican War)
• Background on U.S. Relations With Iran (1953-2026)
• Background on Operation Praying Mantis
• Impacts of the U.S. killing of Qassem Soleimani
• More about the Lockerbie bombing
• The Ezra Klein Show, March 3 episode: The Great Lie of War

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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What Does Radical Acceptance Look Like in Real Life?

In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang sits down with Dave Evans (co-founder of the Stanford Life Design Lab) to tear up the "find your purpose" script and explore how design thinking, faith, and radical acceptance can lead to real meaning—especially through grief and uncertainty. Expect sharp insights, honest stories, and practical tools to build a life with more presence, flow, and authenticity starting now. Dave and Curtis dig into faith and the tension of the "already and not yet" as they look at the ideas in Dave's latest book, How to Live a Meaningful Life.

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03:05 - Dave Evans' Journey & the Origins of Life Design

09:54 - Are there Pitfalls When Pursuing Impact and Transactional Mindset?

18:08 - Design Moves for Greater Meaning

22:05 - Radical Acceptance Illustrated by Personal Loss

28:06 - Why Is the Concept of Flow Important?

39:37 - Compatibility of Design Thinking and Christian Worldview

41:06 - Four Areas of Human Experience for Meaning

45:34 - Meaning in the Second Half of Life

48:59 - Getting Started: Practical First Steps

Scriptures:

• Deuteronomy 30:11–14 (ESV)
• Deuteronomy 30:19–20 (ESV)
• John 10:10 (ESV)
• Philippians 2:5-11 (ESV)
• Romans 12:2 (ESV)
• Ecclesiastes 2:11 (ESV)
• Luke 17:20–21 (ESV)
• Mark 8:18 (ESV)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's How to Live a Meaningful Life: Using Design Thinking to Unlock Purpose, Joy, and Flow Every Day
• What is Radical Acceptance?
• Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience
• Lisa Miller's lecture The Awakened Brain
• Jill Bolte Taylor's TED Talk: My Stroke of Insight
• More about Jean Vanier and L'Arche
• Richard Rohr's Falling Upward
• Veritas Forum: Dallas Willard
• Stanford's Life Design Lab
• What is Design thinking? (pdf)
• Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things

More from Dave Evans:

• Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful Life
• Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's Designing Your New Work Life: How to Thrive and Change and Find Happiness--and a New Freedom--at Work
• Dave Evans Praxis Mentor page
• Check out: Designing Your Life website

Connected Good Faith Episodes:

• Good Faith ep. 68: The Impact Fetish (with Andy Crouch)

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Prayers of the People: The Power of Prayer in Difficult Times

The Good Faith Podcast host Curtis Chang and producer DT Slouffman guide listeners through a communal time of prayer. Responding to heartfelt prayer requests from newsletter subscribers, they reflect on themes of hope, family reconciliation, and finding peace amid uncertainty. Each request is followed by a moment of silent prayer, inviting listeners to participate. The episode emphasizes surrendering to God's will, the challenges of strained relationships, and seeking God's presence in suffering.

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV)
• Ephesians 3:14-15 (ESV)
• C.S. Lewis' book The Four Loves

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Can Missionaries, Not Politics, Depolarize Climate Change for Christians?

Climate change isn't a partisan talking point—it's a discipleship test, and Brian Webb, a seasoned sustainability director and educator, joins Curtis Chang to make the case that climate ignorance hurts both the body of Christ and the world God made for our flourishing. From typhoons overseas to Lyme disease at home, Webb shows how climate change is already hurting real people—and why Christians can't shrug it off. Forget guilt and "change your light bulb" advice: Brian and Curtis lean into stubborn optimism and practical action for churches, workplaces, and local communities.

06:01 - A Faith Journey Becomes A Creation Care Story

08:23 - Creation Care and 1 Corinthians 12

14:06 - Connecting Climate Change Impact to Human Suffering

18:30 - The Problem of Warming From California Wildfires to Lyme Disease

33:35 - Examples of Institutional Action

39:10 - Measuring Institutional Progress

40:16 - Missionaries Sounding the Alarm

43:56 - Dealing with Discouragement and Stubborn Hope

50:01 - Series Wrap-Up and Final Takeaways

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Colossians 1:15-17 (ESV)
• 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 (ESV)
• Read the Cape Town Commitment
• Learn more about A Rocha USA
• Learn more about the Bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus
• The YWAM (Youth With A Mission) School of Sustainable Development
• Learn about the Christian Climate Observers Program (CCOP)
• Learn about Typhoon Haiyan survivor Marinel Ubaldo (Noble Women's Initiative)
• Tuvalu & the Pacific Conference of Churches

Organizations Helping Tuvalu:

• Tuvalu Climate Finance Project
• Tuvalu Coastal Adaptation Project
• Government of Tuvalu – Climate Change / projects portal

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Vanishing Coastlines, Dying Reefs, and the Future of an Island Nation

In this short Good Faith podcast story, Taualo Penivao, General Secretary of the Christian Church of Tuvalu, shares a firsthand witness of how climate change is reshaping daily life, faith, and the difficult questions of land reclamation and climate migration. Hear why Tuvalu is often called "ground zero" for the global climate crisis—and what support is needed to help protect its people, culture, and future.

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• Tuvalu Coastal Adaptation Project
• Government of Tuvalu – Climate Change / projects portal

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Is The Greatest Shift in Christian Theology Going From Heaven to Earth?

Heaven isn't the point of the gospel—and N.T. Wright challenges the "accept Jesus and escape earth" narrative of Christianity. Curtis Chang talks with Wright, leading theologian and prolific author, about New Creation and his latest book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal, asking whether the Bible's promise is the Kingdom of God on earth—or simply going to heaven when you die. They examine the "royal priesthood" calling, what this means for life after death and suffering now, and the true purpose of Christian faith.

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03:43 - The Continuity Between Old and New Testaments

05:05 - Reject Platonism and Embracing New Creation?

08:04 - A Vision More Demanding Than The "Ticket To Heaven" Gospel

13:48 - What Does This Mean For Grace, Works, and Human Vocation?

19:53 - Divergence on the Meaning of The Kingdom of God

27:24 - The Problem of Evil and the "Now and Not Yet"

34:59 - A Pastoral Response to Heaven-Focused Theology

40:41 - How Are Heaven and Earth Interlocking Realities?

47:59 - The Royal Priesthood: Humanity's Biblical Mandate

51:47 - Tom Wright's Future Projects and Reflections

Scriptures:

• Revelation 5:9-10 (ESV) - kingdom + priests reign on the earth
• Exodus 19:6; Deuteronomy 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9 (ESV) - royal priesthood
• Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - creation "very good"; humanity's vocation
• Revelation 21–22 (ESV) - new heaven/new earth; God dwelling with humanity
• Romans 12:2 (ESV) - renewing of the mind
• Romans 8:21–23 (ESV) - creation set free; redemption of bodies
• Malachi 3:1 + Isaiah 40:3 (ESV) - prepare the way; the Lord coming to his temple
• Psalm 8 (ESV) - humanity crowned with glory/honor; vocation
• Ephesians 4 (ESV) - new humanity; community ethics

Mentioned in This Episode:

• N.T. Wright's book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal
• N.T. Wright's book Surprised by Hope
• What is the Bar Kokhba Revolt?
• What is the Mishnah?
• "Teach Me, My God and King" (George Herbert / "The Elixir")
• Tom Holland's book Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World
• C.S. Lewis' book Miracles
• Scot McKnight's book Reading Romans Backwards: A Gospel of Peace in the Midst of Empire

More from N.T. Wright:

• N.T. Wright Online
• N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements
• N.T. Wright's books (Amazon)

Past Conversations with N.T. Wright:

• Good Faith ep. 207: N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, & the Armor of God
• Good Faith ep. 128: The Unseen Spiritual Powers Shaping Our World (with N.T. Wright)

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Disappearing Neighbors, Upended Constitutional Norms, and an Artist's Response to ICE

Curtis Chang talks with singer-songwriter and Twin Cities resident Sara Groves about heightened ICE activity in Minneapolis–Saint Paul and why the consequences for families and neighborhoods persist after the headlines fade. Groves challenges claims that "protesters are paid agitators" or that "ICE targets only criminals," naming the emotional and spiritual toll alongside concerns about due process and constitutional overreach. They discuss "borrowed courage," the cost of public witness—when refusing to defend the indefensible—and how Christians can resist dehumanization by loving neighbors and cultivating beauty amid fear and division.

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02:45 - Sara's Eyewitness Account of ICE Activity

07:08 - Challenging Misconceptions and Narratives

10:18 - Refugees and Legal Overreach

13:48 - Has There Been A Public Reaction to Sara's Advocacy?

18:43 - Local Tragedies and Finding Borrowed Courage

23:44 - Why Do Some Stay Silent or Disengaged?

25:31 - Losing Fans and the Cost of Advocacy

35:41 - What Is the Artist's Response?

43:42 - The Challenges For Sensitive Souls Engaging in Social Justice

44:38 - A Message to Listeners Beyond Minnesota

Scriptures:

• Matthew 22:37-39 (ESV)
• Mark 12:29-31 (ESV)
• Isaiah 1:18 (ESV)
• Ephesians 6:10-18 (ESV)

Mentioned in This Episode:

• Video from Sara's social media bearing witness to current event s in Minnesota
• Learn about the work of International Justice Mission
• MPR articles about the killing of Philando Castile
• MPR articles about the murder of George Floyd Two 17-year-old U.S. citizens detained at Target (local news video)
• Federal Court Blocks: "Operation PARRIS," Orders Release of Detained Refugees
• More about Makoto Fujimura
• Kazuo Ishiguro's The Buried Giant
• Flannery O'Connor's Some Aspects of the Grotesque in Southern Fiction (read by O'Connor)
• Dorcas Thomson's Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul
• Learn about the Art House North
• Sara Groves' album What Makes It Through?
• Sara Groves' song "Telltale Heart"
• Sara Groves' song "Enough"
• Sara Groves' song-in-progress "Normal Things Are Hard Right Now"
• Steven Galloway's The Cellist of Sarajevo

Past Episodes Referenced in this Conversation:

• Good Faith ep. 215: David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration
• Good Faith ep. 142: Finding God in the Small Things with Charlie Peacock & Andi Ashworth

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• Sara Groves' Patreon
• Sara Groves' website

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Can You Really Change Your Brain by Changing Your Thoughts?

Neurosurgeon, Iraq War vet, and author Dr. Lee Warren shows Curtis Chang how to perform "self brain surgery"—no scalpel, just the brutal truth: your automatic thoughts are rewiring your brain every day, and a lot of them are lying to you. Curtis and Lee dig into neuroplasticity, why you keep looping the same stress scripts, how gratitude can hijack anxiety, and they connect the dots between brain science and faith as represented in Philippians 4 and Romans 12. If you're stuck in anxiety, trauma, or toxic patterns, this episode could be a wake-up call—and a way forward.

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02:38 - How Do Thoughts Reshape the Brain?

07:39 - Personal Story: Grieving and Neuroplasticity

11:08 - Philippians 4 and Neuroscience

18:01 - Gratitude as a Brain Switch

21:51 - Neuroscience vs. Classic Therapy

31:03 - Building New Habits and Synaptic Pruning

32:28 - The "Self" in Self Brain Surgery and the Holy Spirit

44:07) - Wisdom to Know What Can and Cannot Change

52:34 - Epigenetics and Generational Influence

56:49 - Final Word: Hope and Agency

Mentioned In This Episode:

• Dr. Lee Warren's The Life-Changing Art of Self-Brain Surgery
• Philippians 4:6–8 (ESV)
• Romans 12:1–2 (ESV)
• 2 Corinthians 10:5 (ESV)
• Romans 5:3–5 (ESV)
• Deuteronomy 5:9-10 (ESV)
• Summary: Study finds epigenetic changes in children of Holocaust survivors
• Chris Voss's Never Split the Difference
• The Original Serenity Prayer

More From Dr. Lee Warren:

• Listen: The Dr. Lee Warren Podcast
• Dr. Warren's website
• Dr. Warren's No Place to Hide
• Dr. Warren's Hope Is the First Dose
• Dr. Warren's I've Seen the End of You

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Responding To The Minnesota Surge Leads To A Pastor's Arrest!

Curtis Chang sits down with Rev. Mariah Tollgaard for an on-the-ground look at ICE raids and immigration enforcement in Minneapolis–St. Paul, Minnesota. They break down masked agents, rapid detentions, and MSP Airport deportation flights—plus the church-led pushback through mutual aid, constitutional observer trainings, and clergy protests that led to Reverend Tollgaard's arrest. It's a faith-and-civil-rights wake-up call: what neighbor-love demands when ICE shows up in your city, and why accountability matters.

03:11 - Setting the Scene: ICE Occupation in Minnesota

08:19 - How Are Churches and the Community Responding?

00:10:24 - Faith-Based Activism, Public Witness, and Arrests of Faith Leaders

15:46 - Theological Reflection on Resistance

17:55 - Biblical Basis for Protest

24:25 - Minnesota's Unique Response and Context

29:52 - Corporate Complicity and Airport Protests

34:02 - Spiritual Courage Rooted In History

36:36 - A Call to National Solidarity

38:48 - Closing Prayer

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• How to Contact Your Elected Officials: Ballotpedia's Who Represents Me tool
• Matthew 22:34-40 (ESV) - The Second Greatest Commandment
• Ephesians 6:10–19 (ESV) - The Whole Armour of God
• Hebrews 12:1-17 (ESV) - The Great Cloud of Witnesses
• Nearly 30,000 Minnesotans trained as constitutional observers
• In The Twin Cities, A Massive Strike Against ICE
• Ernst Frenkel's The Dual State: A Contribution To The Theory Of Dictatorship (pdf)
• David French: An Old Theory Helps Explain What Happened to Renee Good
• Good Faith episode 215: David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration

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How Can Christians Turn Groans into Growth By Responding to Ecological Grief?

In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang talks with Dr. Jonathan Moo, a decorated professor of both the New Testament and Environmental Studies, about why Christian creation care belongs at the center of discipleship. Drawing from Romans 8, Colossians 1, and Genesis 1–2, Moo connects biblical hope for new creation with practical action on climate change, stewardship, and loving our neighbors by caring for the places they depend on and enjoy. The conversation explores how faith and science can work together, why "dominion" looks like Christ-shaped service, and how small, local projects—from Uganda to Texas—offer tangible models of environmental renewal. Dr. Moo offers us a bigger vision of human flourishing, plus concrete next steps for Christians and churches to live joyfully and faithfully in God's world.

05:04 - How Do Jonathan Moo's Academic and Faith and Love for Creation Intersect?

07:51 - Romans 8 and Lament for Creation

17:38 - Salvation, Resurrection, and the Earth

22:08 - Practical Examples of Creation Care

27:01 - Motivating People To Move From Enjoying Nature To Actively Caring For It

31:24 - How Do We Address Interpretations of "Dominion"?

36:32 - Jesus as Model for Dominion

39:34 - Understanding Barriers Between Evangelicals and Science

47:16 - Engaging with Skeptics and Loved Ones

53:25 - Advice for Skeptics

55:11 - Practical Steps for the Environmentally Concerned

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Mentioned In This Episode:

Tools, Websites, and Organizations A Rocha USA

Bull Creek Restoration Project

Climate Stewards USA

Books and Authors

• Learn more about Aldo Leopold
• Learn more about Alister McGrath
• Learn more about Evelyn Waugh
• Learn more about Wendell Berry
• Debra Rienstra's Refugia Faith: Seeking Hidden Shelters, Ordinary Wonders, and the Healing of the Earth

Biblical Passages

• Colossians 1:15-20 (ESV)
• Romans 8 (ESV)
• Genesis 1 and 2 (ESV)
• Mark 12:30-31 (ESV)

Concepts and Ideas

• Carbon Calculator (use for offsets)
• Bio Sand Filters
• No Till Agriculture
• Mulching and Crop Rotation

More From Dr. Jonathan Moo:

• Jonathan & Douglas Moo's Creation Care: A Biblical Theology of the Natural World (Biblical Theology for Life)
• More about Dr. Moo: Whitworth professor acts as a wilderness guide
• A reminder of Dr. Moo's A.W.A.K.E. acronym

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What Can Christians Do and Will It Work?

In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang and David French name what's happening to American democracy right now: "Dual State America," where life feels normal—until the Trump administration's lawless prerogative power snaps into place. From the Renee Good case to Orwellian spin and rising political violence, they trace how authoritarianism spreads by redefining reality and daring ordinary people not to resist. French's gut-check: stop waiting for someone else to save the country—do something your grandkids will recognize as courage.

02:40 - What Is The "Dual State"?

06:25 - What Does The Renee Good Shooting Show Us?

11:03 - Potential For Resistance and Change

15:32 - The Dangers of Rotating Elected Authoritarians

20:03 - The "Gradually, Then Suddenly" Collapse

24:30 - What Can Individuals Do?

35:31 - The Risk and Uncertainty of Action

37:10 - Embracing Faithfulness Over Effectiveness

47:27 - Christians and The Integrity of Words

47:58 - What Sustains David French?

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• David French: An Old Theory Helps Explain What Happened to Renee Good
• Ernst Frenkel's The Dual State: A Contribution To The Theory Of Dictatorship (pdf)
• Ernst Frenkel's Legal Sabotage: Ernst Fraenkel in Hitler's Germany
• Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Letters from a Birmingham Jail
• George Orwell's 1984
• Re-read the Declaration of Independence
• Read The Loosening of American Evangelicalism (article)

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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The Rise of the "Nones" and the Politics Driving People Out of Church

In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Ryan Burge joins Curtis Chang to explore The Vanishing Church and the decline of moderate American congregations, using hard data and his lived experience as a longtime pastor, political scientist, and statistician. Ryan and Curtis explore how evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics, and the religious "nones" are changing—and what that means for polarization, social cohesion, and democracy in America. Burge offers a practical challenge for the lonely or spiritually curious—show up to church even if you don't believe—and makes a case for gratitude and community in an anxious age.

06:25 - Evangelicals: Political Shift and Homogeneity

13:59 - Mainline Protestants: Decline and Diversity

19:06 - Aging and Future of Mainline Churches

23:05 - American Catholics: Stability and Rightward Shift

28:31 - Priest Shortages and Cultural Challenges

30:36 - The Rise of the Nones

31:25 - Political Drivers of Religious Disaffiliation

40:17 - Polarization: Politics and Economics

47:54 - Addressing Polarization: Individual Responsibility

50:23 - Advice for Pastors: Preaching Beyond Politics

52:31 - Signs of Hope and Gratitude

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Ryan Burge's The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us (Why the Culture Wars Led to Polarization and What We Can Do About It)
• Read Ephesians 3:10 (ESV)
• Read Colossians 1:16-18 (ESV)
• Danforth Center on Religion and Politics
• Ryan Burge, Michael Graham, and Jim Davis' The Great Dechurching: Who's Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back?
• More about Dorothy Day

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• Substack: Graphs About Religion
• Follow Ryan on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/ryanburge
• More about Ryan Burge's work

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Can Christian Americans Resist Authoritarian Drift?

Pete Wehner—The Atlantic columnist and former Reagan and Bush administration staff member—joins host Curtis Chang to ask the uncomfortable question: in Trump's America, is morality a loser that's been replaced by the "law of the jungle"—especially in U.S. foreign policy? From Venezuela to a looming Greenland/Denmark showdown that could fracture NATO, Wehner argues we're watching "might makes right" go mainstream. The antidote, he says, isn't vibes—it's resistance: stop living within the lie and start living within the truth.

00:04:23 - Explaining the U.S. Foreign Policy Shift

00:06:36 - What Is America's Moral Aspiration in Foreign Policy?

00:07:57 - Trump's "Will to Power" Ethic

00:11:34 - Do We Have Historical Amnesia?

00:16:36 - Contrasting Trump and PEPFAR

00:19:09 - The Disconnect Between Christian Identity and Policy

00:26:34 - Demagogues and Moral Erosion

00:34:19 - President Trump's Unique Amorality

00:37:10 - Primacy of Human Dignity and Christian Ethics

00:41:01 - Venezuela, Greenland, and Moral Implications

00:44:02 - The Value of Beauty and Creation

00:47:14 - What Are the Limits and Possibilities of Action

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Pete Wehner's article Trump's Folly
• More about PEPFAR (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief)
• Anne Applebaum's Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism
• William Galston's Anger, Fear, Domination: Dark Passions and the Power of Political Speech
• Jeane Kirkpatrick's essay Dictatorships and Double Standards (Commentary)
• Václav Havel's The Power of the Powerless
• David Brooks' article America Needs a Mass Movement—Now Without one, America may sink into autocracy for decades (The Atlantic)
• C.S. Lewis' idea of active obedience is found in Mere Christianity
• Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich"
• Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Nobel Prize Lecture (literature, 1970)

More from Pete Wehner:

• Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic
• Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times

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From Pews to Planet: Faith-Based Steps to Better Creation Stewardship

In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and guest Dr. Katherine Hayhoe—Chief Scientist at The Nature Conservancy and a committed evangelical Christian—explore why Christians and churches should care about climate change as a biblical "love your neighbor" issue rooted in justice for the poor and vulnerable. Hayhoe explains how political polarization and "solution aversion" fuel climate skepticism. She introduces the "Six Americas" framework and offers practical guidance for having hopeful, effective conversations that connect climate action to what people already care about. Dr. Hayhoe offers actionable next steps for individuals and congregations—like sharing solutions, starting church initiatives, and leading with hope instead of doom—so Christians can faithfully steward God's creation.

05:23 - Dr. Hayhoe's Faith Journey and Science

07:12 - Experiencing Creation's Vulnerability

09:17 - Is Climate Change a Justice Issue?

10:42 - Encountering Christian Climate Skepticism

18:06 - Christian Organizations and Climate Action

24:35 - Connecting Climate to Personal Values A

28:23 - Navigating Difficult Conversations

33:31 - What Are the "Six Americas" of Climate Attitudes?

43:02 - Scientific Evidence and Human Impact

48:15 - Focusing on Solutions, Not Just Science

50:03 - What Is One Action Step for the Unsure Christian?

53:00 - What Is One Action Step for the Committed Christian

55:00 - Are There Practical Church-Based Climate Actions?

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Mentioned In This Episode:

Organizations and Networks

• A Rocha USA
• Evangelical Environmental Network
• Tearfund
• Compassion International
• World Vision
• Yale Program on Climate Change Communication

Websites, Tools, Books, and Newsletters

• Skeptical Science
• Global Weirding (Video podcast)
• Colby May's Energy For Purpose (ministry Energy Management)
• Mark Noll's The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind
• Dr. John Cook's Cranky Uncle vs. Climate Change: How to Understand and Respond to Climate Science Deniers
• Bill McKibben's website

Studies and Surveys

• National Academy of Sciences Survey Results (2023-2024)
• Belief in divine (versus human) control of earth affects perceived threat of climate change (npj)
• Pew Research: The pope is concerned about climate change. How do U.S. Catholics feel about it? (2023)
• The Yale Program on Climate Change Communication: Climate Change in the American Mind: Beliefs & Attitudes (2025)

More From Dr. Katharine Hayhoe:

• Katharine Hayhoe's Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World
• Katharine Hayhoe's Substack: Talking Climate
• Katharine Hayhoe's website
• Subscribe to Katharine Hayhoe's Newsletter

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How Do We Shape Future Generations Well?

Nancy French returns to The Good Faith Podcast with host Curtis Chang for a heartfelt, funny, and surprisingly practical conversation about how grandparenting reshapes your view of hope, kids and screens, grief, and what's worth doing with the time you have—even is that just means "robbing a bank with a Barbie." This conversation isn't just for grandparents: it's for anyone mentoring, parenting, teaching, or influencing the next generation, with practical wisdom on choosing connection, naming loss honestly, and creating space for kids to grow "analog" and resilient. Nancy also explains why legacy and being remembered aren't the point—what matters is faithfully loving the people in front of you and passing on stability, courage, and hope that outlasts you.

02:05 - Why Did Nancy Choose a Year as Primary Caregiver To Her Grandpkids?

07:44 - No screens and the value of analog, imaginative play.

13:15 - Preserving Children's Natural Hope

14:26 - Navigating Difficult Topics with Children

17:14 - The Value of Letting Children Experience Loss

23:09 - Creativity and Storytelling with Grandchildren

25:51 - Introducing Real-World Conflicts in Play

29:19 - Grandparents as Links to Family Legacy

34:53 - George Eliot: The Value of Unremembered Acts

36:18 - Living with Cancer and Embracing the Present

42:30 - Grandparenting from a Distance

45:27 - Encouragement to Focus on fun, connection, and Presence Rather Than Legacy

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Demographic research: Grandchildren's spatial proximity to grandparents and intergenerational support in the United States
• Jennifer F. Cross, M.D.: Why screen time should be limited for kids
• The Child Mind Institute: The Power of Pretend Play for Children
• Chicago's Harold Washington Library
• Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self
• Nancy French & Curtis Chang's The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics
• Nancy French's Ghosted: An American Story
• George Eliot's Middlemarch (epubs)
• More about Secretary of State Cordell Hull

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• Nancy French's website
• Nancy French on instagram
• Nancy French on Threads

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Can a Poetic Pause Help us Embrace the In-Between Moments of the Season?

On this special Christmas Day episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken each explore the nativity, the "space between" Christ's first coming and second coming, and how Christian faith holds grief and joy together in a world that often "does not mesh with Jesus." Featuring Madeleine L'Engle's poem "First Coming" and music from McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells (including "The Space Between"), this episode invites listeners to slow down, notice the small things, and find God's nearness in waiting and quiet wonder.

(00:03:02) Christian Response to a Troubled World

(00:04:22) Madeleine L'Engle's "First Coming"

(00:08:35) Sandra McCracken's Christmas Reflections

(00:12:14) What Is Blessing the Space Between?

(00:12:47) Songwriting and the Sacred Space Between

(00:15:10) From Christmas to New Year's: Blessing the In-Between Times

(00:17:12) Nativity, Slowness, and the Nearness of God

(00:20:01) Curtis Chang's Closing Reflections

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Madeleine L'Engle's The Ordering of Love
• Madeleine L'Engle's "First Coming"
• Luci Shaw's Accompanied by Angels: Poems of the Incarnation
• Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells
• Sandra McCracken's "The Space Between"

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• Sandra McCracken's website
• Sandra's first Christmas album Sandra McCracken Christmas (2020)

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From C.S. Lewis to Luka Dončić: Celebrating Joy in Unexpected Places

On this Christmas-season Good Faith episode, host Curtis Chang welcomes back "founding friend" David French to showcase how he can give thanks in all circumstances even amid a depressing news cycle. Through five surprising "gratitudes" (from Dune and Luka Dončić to family healing and C.S. Lewis), the conversation offers a timely guide to cultivating Christian joy, resilience, and hope in anxious times. French shares why his hope isn't rooted in a "five-point plan," but in the character of God and the "light and high beauty" that can break through dark moments—even illustrated by a powerful story of forgiveness after a Michigan church shooting.

(00:02:22) - Living with Tension: Blessings and Challenges

(00:05:11) - Practicing Cheerfulness and Gratitude

(00:08:52) - #5: Anticipating Dune Part Three & the importance of joy and fun.

(00:18:22) - #4: Luka Doncic & appreciating greatness

(00:26:50) - Transcendence, and the Need for Beauty in dark times.

(00:27:55) - #3: Michigan Mormons' Response to Tragedy

(00:29:22) - The Power of Redemptive Acts

(00:33:35) - #2: Gratitude for his wife & granddaughter's health after medical challenges.

(00:40:32) - #1: The Enduring Comfort of C.S. Lewis

(00:49:44) - The necessity of hope and joy, especially for young people.

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Trailer: Dune Part Three
• Trailer: Dune Part One
• Trailer: Dune Part Two
• Highlights: Luka Doncic
• Read/Watch: Victims raise money for Michigan Church shooter's family

Books Mentioned by C.S. Lewis * Mere Christianity * The Last Battle * The Great Divorce * The Screwtape Letters * Space Trilogy * Till We Have Faces

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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What Do Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and Johnny Cash Have in Common?

Singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken joins Good Faith for a short bonus episode on the Christmas songs that can hold joy and sorrow at the same time. Sandra explores the story behind "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day"—from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's grief to its enduring promise of peace in the midst of hardship. She also reflects on the influence of Johnny Cash's version and shares what it was like recording the song with Cindy Morgan. A warm, reflective listen for anyone heading into the season with hope and heaviness.

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day
• Sandra McCracken's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day
• Johnny Cash's The Christmas Spirit album
• Johnny Cash's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day
• Leonard Cohen's Anthem

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• Sandra McCracken's website
• Sandra's first Christmas album Sandra McCracken Christmas (2020)

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Can We Welcome the Stranger and Uphold the Law?

How should Christians think about immigration, the border crisis, and refugees—without getting trapped in partisan talking points? In this Good Faith podcast episode, host Curtis Chang sits down with Jennie Murray, president of the National Immigration Forum, to explore a faith-informed approach to U.S. immigration policy. They explore why the U.S. immigration system is so broken and confusing, the tension between compassion and the rule of law, how immigration affects jobs, labor shortages, and the economy, all while debunking myths about crime, fentanyl, and "open borders." (02:34) - Christian first or American first? Identity and immigration (06:01) - Compassion vs rule of law? (10:36) - How the immigration system is failing (14:09) - What really drives migration (18:21) - Labor, talent, and the U.S. economy (22:12) - Who counts as "illegal" or "undocumented"? (31:27) - Law, grace, and the gospel (37:34) - Crime, fentanyl, and fear-based narratives (48:03) - What ordinary Christians can do

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• TRAC: Immigration numbers and research
• Refugee resettlement ceilings and numbers caps: Migration Policy Institute
• A Turning Point for the Unauthorized Immigrant Population in the United States
• Gallup Polling: Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated
• Pew Research Research: Majority of Americans to say immigrants strengthen the U.S.
• Pew Research: U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade
• Lifeway/World Relief Research Study: Evangelical Views on Immigration Study
• Pew Research: Support for Legal Status for Immigrants Illegally Ariving as Children
• Bill Summary: Dream Act of 2025
• CATO Institute: 72% Believe Immigrants Enter the U.S. for Jobs & to Improve Their Lives

Referenced Scripture:

• Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) - The foreigner residing among you
• Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV) - Treatment of the stranger

International Comparison Stories:

• Reuters, Nov 2022: Canada's immigration targets to fill workforce gaps/support economic growth
• DW News, June 2023: Germany aims to make it easier for non-nationals to work there
• The Guardian, April 2023): Australia targets skilled migrants to fill critical job vacancies
• BBC News, Dec 2023): "The UK government is responding to workforce shortages by expanding visa opportunities for foreign workers

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• More about Jennie Murray
• Learn more about National Immigration Forum
• Engage with Resources from National Immigration Forum

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Christianity Isn't a Nation and The Church Isn't a National Movement

Host Curtis Chang sits down with N.T. Wright to explore the explosive themes of Ephesians, including what the Bible really says about the mission of the church—not as a lifeboat escaping to heaven, but a "small working model of new creation"—a multiethnic, multicultural community that stands against the powers and principalities of our age through truth, unity, and love. Wright discusses the church's mission in a divided world, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They address modern challenges such as misunderstandings of spiritual warfare, the communal nature of the armor of God, why the "belt of truth" matters today, and how Ephesians calls the church to resist counterfeit visions of power.

(06:12) - Has NT Wright changed his mind about the Biblical truths?

(12:15) - What is Wright's "small working model of new creation"?

(16:15) - The new community of Jesus Christ

(22:51) - The problem of Christian nationalism

(28:16) - The Challenge of Christian Multiculturalism

(29:39) - The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare

(36:56) - Is the Armor of God a communal thing?

(43:05) - The biblical view of men and women is not antiquated

(49:19) - A final word of encouragement from Ephesians

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• N.T. Wright's The Vision of Ephesians: The Task of the Church and the Glory of God
• N.T. Wright's forthcoming God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal
• Lecture: How Paul Invented Christian Theology (N.T. Wright lecture)
• What are the Five Elements of Christian Nationalism?
• Learn more: Desmond Tutu and the triumph against Apartheid
• Watch: How Artistotle and the Greek philosophers influenced the idea of a soul (video)
• Read: How a Man Named Lesslie Changed the Way I Think

Scriptural Thoughts on Rest:

• Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - Male & female relationships and creation theology
• Ephesians 1:1-14 (ESV) - Revealing who Jesus is to the world
• Ephesians 2:10 (ESV) - Humankind's purpose
• Ephesians 6:10-20 (ESV) - The full armor of God
• 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (ESV) -The guarantee of the resurrection
• Revelation 21-22 (ESV) - Vision of new creation

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• N.T. Wright Online
• N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements
• N.T. wright's books (Amazon)

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Can Sabbath Rest Be a Circuit Breaker for Idolatry?

Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith podcast regular Andy Crouch explore how practicing true Sabbath rest can help Christians break free from burnout, technology overload, and the constant pressure to produce. Andy explains the biblical vision of Sabbath, the difference between rest and leisure, and why so many people feel enslaved to email, phones, and digital noise. They offer practical tools for burnout recovery, Sabbath rest practices, and Christian digital detox, helping listeners rediscover rhythms of rest, contemplation, and spiritual formation. If you're searching for guidance on how to practice Sabbath, how to disconnect from technology, or how to recover from burnout as a Christian, this conversation with Andy Crouch provides a hopeful path to real rest.

(02:24) - The Value of Rest Modeled in Creation

(13:04) - The Cycle of Rest, Contemplation, & Creation in Modern Work

(21:31) - Is Ceasing Labor Different Than Resting From It?

(28:49) - Breaking Free from the Labor Involved in Leisure

(32:18) - True Rest Requires Spiritual Practices

(37:44) - How Can We Rediscovering Sabbath Rest Together?

Drawing from a previous conversation with Andy Crouch, this episode examines how Sabbath rest revitalizes the inner life.

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Abraham Joshua Heschel's The Sabbath: It's Meaning for Modern Man
• Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place
• David Foster Wallace's A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again

Scriptural Thoughts on Rest:

• Genesis 1–3 (ESV) - Genesis and the Creation Story
• Exodus 20:8-11 (ESV) - The Sabbath commandment
• Deuteronomy 5:12-15 (ESV) - Observance of the Sabbath Day

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• Interact with Andy's website
• Check out Andy's work at Praxis
• Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For
• Read Andy's book: The Tech-Wise Family

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How Does Kathleen Norris Show Disability Shaping Love, Lament, and Christian Faith?

Bestselling writer Kathleen Norris joins host Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflections on Disability, Faith and Love. They share the story of Kathleen's disabled sister, Rebecca, and how her journey through perinatal hypoxia, bipolar disorder, anger, and finally gratitude reshaped their family's faith. This episode offers honest wisdom on caregiving, grief, and aging parents and siblings, plus ideas for making sense of a loved one's disability through letters and reflection. Curtis and Kathleen also explore how churches can better include people with disabilities who are "hidden in plain sight," and why love, lament, and telling the truth about our flaws are central to a life of faith.

(01:49) - What did disability mean in the Norris family?

(04:00) - Discovering Disability

(08:52) - The Connection Between Love and Lament

(16:24) - Lessons Learned Caring For a Dying Husband

(20:09) - The Complicated Journey Caregiving and Dying

(29:00) - Admiring a Father's Determination

(31:36) - Championing Disability Rights

(37:27) - Tackling Disability Awareness in Community

(41:56) - Are There Connections Between This Story and Norris' Other Books?

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Kathleen Norris' Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflection on Disability, Faith, and Love
• Listen to Amy Julia Becker (Good Faith episode 145)
• A Brief History of the Benedictine Order
• Understanding the Holy Fool

More From Kathleen Norris:

• Kathleen Norris' The Cloister Walk
• Kathleen Norris' Dakota: A Spiritual Geography
• Kathleen Norris' Amazing Grace: A Vocabulary of Faith

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A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to "welcome the stranger", explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief's Churches of Welcome.

(02:11) - What Is a Refugee?

(08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement

(14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees

(23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants

(29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes

(43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• 2025 Evangelical Views on Immigration Study (Lifeway Research)
• Notre Dame Study on the Economic Benefits of Refugees in America
• Learn about Vietnamese Boat Crisis & Boat People
• What is the Refugee Act of 1980
• Facts about Afghan Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs)
• Learn More about Evelyn Mangham
• Learn more about National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)

Scripture Mentioned:

• Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV)
• Leviticus 23:22 (ESV)
• Luke 10:25–37; Matthew 25:34–40; James 1:27 (ESV) - The Good Samaritan

More From Myal Greene and World Relief:

• Learn more about World Relief
• Become a World Relief Volunteer
• Join World Relief's ​​Good Neighbor Teams
• Give to Open Doors (Organization collaborating with World Relief)

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Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology

Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero's struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare's "magic" and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica's discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT.

(02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic

(05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions?

(11:03) - The Change in Prospero

(13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts

(18:53) - The Temptation of AI

(21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• William Shakespeare's The Tempest (entire play)
• Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place
• Genesis 32:22-32 (ESV) - Jacob Wrestling with God or "the Angel"
• C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man (pdf)
• The Tempest Act V, Scene 1: "Prospero's Speech"
• John 1:1-14 (ESV) - Jesus as the Word or "logos"
• Hebrews 5:11-6:12 (ESV) - the metaphor of milk and solid food

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• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica's books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival?

Good Faith "founding friend" David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today's supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z's shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape.

(02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity?

(06:36) - It's Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival

(09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like?

(12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity

(20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together

(29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America

(39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• David French's article Something Is Stirring in Christian America, and It's Making Me Nervous
• Barna Research: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance
• Tim Keller's article 'Lord, Do It Again': Tim Keller on Revival (The Gospel Coalition)
• Tim Keller's message A Biblical Theology of Revival
• Read Acts 2:14-47 (ESV) - Peter preaches from Joel and repentance breaks out
• Read Isaiah 6 (ESV) - Isaiah's call and commission
• George Whitefield and the 1727 The Great Awakening
• What was the Azusa Street Revival? (Christian Union America)
• Kevin Brown's article What the Asbury Revival Taught Me About Gen Z (Christianity Today)
• What is Seven Mountain Dominionism?
• What is Catholic Integralism?
• Differing Opinions: Is Empathy A Sin? Some Conservative Christians Argue It Can Be (PBS)
• Rodney Stark The Rise of Christianity: A Sociologist Reconsiders History (PBS)
• Read Romans 5:1-11 (ESV) - Peace with God through faith
• Listen: Good Faith episode 30 Russell Moore discusses why "crazy as a church growth strategy" is not the way of Jesus
• Ryan Burge: What About White Evangelicals Who Aren't Conservative?

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• David French's New York Times pieces HERE
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Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence?

Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today's chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture.

(02:23) - Navigating Anxiety in Uncertain Times

(04:35) - Understanding Anxiety Across Generations

(18:58) - Navigating Anxiety With Holy Indifference

(26:00) - Anxiety in Churches, Politics, and Systems

(28:15) - Churches Cultivating Non-Anxious Presence

(33:43) - Finding a Spiritual Home in Crisis

(41:20) - Sara's Message a Generation of Anxious Young Adults

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Sara Billups' Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics
• What is Epigenetics? (Cleveland Clinic)
• Curt Thompson discusses generational trauma and epigenetics (episode of Curt's podcast)
• Ignatius' Spiritual Exercises
• St. Teresa of Lisieux's Divine Office
• The story behind the hymn It Is Well With My Soul
• Frederick Buechner describes his daughter's anorexia and praying Psalm 131 (video)
• Frederick Buechner's Telling Secrets
• Matthew 26:36-46 (ESV) Jesus prays in Gethsemane
• Edwin Friedman's A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix
• Edwin Friedman's Six Measures of Effective Leadership (Jack Shitima's Non-Anxious Leader blog)
• Mark Sayers's A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders
• The ignatian concept of Indifference
• Thomas McKenzie's The Anglican Way: A Guidebook
• Tim Keller's The Church in the City (Series of audio messages)
• Christianity Today's The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill (podcast) 22
• Explore Grace Church Seattle
• Good Faith episode featuring Paco Amador of Little Village in Chicago

More from Sara Billups:

• Sara Billups' Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find the Way Home
• Sara Billups' Bitter Scroll (substack)
• Sara Billups' That's the Spirit podcast (with Morgan Page)

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What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids?

In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis "Paco" Amador about the struggles of Chicago's immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear.

(03:15) - Immigration and Community in Chicago

(05:49) - Impact of Immigration Raids on Community

(12:54) - Immigration Rights Issues

(15:35) - Community Support

(17:38) - How Does the Bible Speak To the Immigrant's Experience?

(19:37) - Migrants and Persecution

(27:00) - A Faith Revival in Immigrant Communities

(34:00) - Immigration Reform and Order

(39:10) - Migrants Fleeing Collapsing Dictatorships

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Images of ICE raids in Little Village, Chicago (the month of October)
• Matthew 5:1-12 (ESV) The Beatitudes
• Acts 8:1-4 (ESV) The Scattering of the Church
• Genesis 12 (ESV) The Call of Abraham
• Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Volume 1: The Early Church to the Dawn of the Reformation
• Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Vol. 2: The Reformation to the Present Day

More from Paco Amador

• Paco Amador: A Church With a Heart for Immigrants
• Little Village: New Life Community Church
• Immigrants Plant Churches and Revitalize a Neighborhood in Chicago (substack article)

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How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism?

Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America.

(02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America

(11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America

(17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism

(26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History

(33:43) - America’s Story and a Universal “us”?

(36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776

(44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism

(48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others

(55:45) - Security About the Truth of America

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry’s Taking America Back For God
• Thomas Kidd’s Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism (article)
• How Many Americans Are Christian Nationalists? (article & date)
• David French: What Is Christian Nationalism, Exactly? (2/25/24)
• The Role of The New Apostolic Reformation
• A Critique of the Seven Mountain Mandate
• Derek Bell’s Interest Convergence and the Permanence of Racism: A Reflection on Resistance
• Matt Yglesias’s Great Awakening
• C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God
• C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God
• C.S. Lewis on Patriotism

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Join Curtis Chang, host of the Good Faith Podcast, along with co-leaders Chuck Mingo, Sarah Billups, Russell Moore, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Mark Turman, as they move listeners through a series of guided prayers based on the Beatitudes. This pastoral effort invites the audience to recalibrate their spiritual focus and pray for the church, our country, and one another. Beginning with “Blessed are the poor in spirit” and culminating in rejoicing and gladness, this time of reflection and prayer encourages all-comers to renew their hope, reclaim peace, and follow Christ faithfully in a divided world.

(01:05) - Welcome from Curtis Chang

(03:47) - Centering Silence

(04:20) - Blessed Are the Poor In Spirit: Curtis Chang

(09:50) - Blessed Are Those Who Mourn

(13:39) - Blessed Are the Meek: Chuck Mingo

(14:58) - Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst For Righteousness:Sara Billups

(16:49) - Blessed Are the Merciful: Sara Billups

(17:59) - Prayer For the Church Universal From the Book of Common Prayer: Sara Billups

(19:45) - Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: Russell Moore

(22:14) - Blessed Are the Peacemakers: Russell Moore

(24:08) - Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted: Kaitlyn Schiess

(27:35) - Prayers For the Needs of God’s Work: Kaitlyn Schiess

(28:39) - Rejoice and Be Glad: Mark Turman

(32:12) - Hope and Joy in Christ: Mark Turman

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Scriptures Referenced:

• Matthew 5: 1-12 (ESV)
• Psalm 139:23-24 (ESV)
• Amos 5 (ESV)

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Can Our Enemies Teach Us Anything?

A.J. Swoboda joins the Good Faith podcast to unpack how cultivating a teachable spirit and practicing true discipleship means learning from enemies, strangers, and neighbors in a divided world. He emphasizes how to recognize real experts amid alternate facts and subjective “truths,” and tells how the countercultural practice of learning from anyone—regardless of agreement—fosters humility, empathy, and connection, insights drawn from his book A Teachable Spirit.

(03:11) - Cultivating a Teachable Spirit

(09:38) - Reverse Prophecy and Calling Out Your Tribe

(17:55) - Experts & Expertise

(22:09) - Sola Scriptura vs. “Solo” Scriptura

(23:27) - Jesus Would Be the Best At Anything

(32:04) - Replacing Our Neighbors With Technology

(45:03) - Learning From Enemies

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Mentioned In This Episode:

• A.J. Swoboda’s A Teachable Spirit
• How John Calvin understood the Ten Commandments
• Erving Goffman’s The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life (pdf)
• More about Fuller Seminary’s John Goldengay
• Roger Kneebone: The Path To Expertise and Why Experts Matter
• Understanding Erving Goffman’s concept of Civil Inattention
• Dallas Willard’s sermon: The Genius of Jesus, part 1 (video)
• Dallas Willard’s Jesus the Logician (article)
• How Should Pastors Respond to Charlie Kirk’s Assassination? (article)

Scriptures Referenced:

• The Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5-7 (ESV)
• Mark 12:30-31 (ESV)
• Deuteronomy 10 (ESV)
• Hebrews 13:2 (ESV)

More From A.J. Swoboda:

• A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta’s The Slow Theology Podcast
• A.J. Swoboda’s Low Level Theology Substack
• A.J. Swoboda’s The Dusty Ones: Why Wandering Deepens Your Faith

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How Is Radicalization A Risk in Online Spaces?

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, former DHS counterterrorism leader, to explore the rise of political violence in our digital world. From Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the role of memes, online gaming, and extremist recruitment, they uncover how radicalization thrives—and where faith communities, government, and citizens can step in to push back against hate and defend freedom.

(01:54) - Understanding and Preventing Political Violence

(08:22) - The Broader Context of Rising Violence

(12:03) - Addressing Root Causes of Mass Violence

(21:29) - Online Gaming and Extremism Concerns

(27:15) - Rating the Trump Administration’s Response to the Crisis

(34:09) - Government Response to Political Violence

(42:34) - Jesus Followers and the Threat of Violence

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Recommended Resource: Mass Violence Prevention
• An Independent article: The sinister role of ‘black-pilling’ in the murder of Charlie Kirk
• Elizabeth Newman’s book Kingdom of Rage From the U.N.:Examining the Intersection Between Gaming and Violent Extremism (pdf)
• Learn about: The Calm Network (764) (the United States Attorney’s Office District of Columbia)
• Learn how Violent Online Networks Target Vulnerable and Underage Populations

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• Check out Elizebeth Neumann’s website
• Elizabeth Neumann’s archived DHS biography

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What Does Charlie Kirk’s Murder Reveal About Extremism and Division?

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Good Faith “founding friend” and New York Times writer David French to reflect on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and what it reveals about the rise of political violence in America. Together, they explore how formative experiences have shaped Baby Boomers and Gen Z differently, the role of influencers versus institutions, and the dangers of extremism across the political spectrum. With compassion for the personal tragedy at the center of this event, they also highlight the church’s role on the path toward healing and rebuilding trust in a deeply divided nation.

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Poll Results: Is Political Violence Ever Justified?
• Why Do So Many Young Americans Justify Political Violence? (internal WSJ generational poll %s)
• How recent political violence in the U.S. fits into ‘a long, dark history’ (Politifact/PBS)
• Political violence in polarized U.S. at its worst since 1970s (Reuters, 2023)
• Spencer Cox’s calls for civility spark introspection, and some GOP backlash
• Utah Gov. Spencer Cox decries ‘cancer’ of social media and its ‘direct role’ in every assassination over past 5 years
• Pope Leo criticizes surge of nationalist political movements in the world (video)

David French on Charlie Kirk’s Murder and Political Violence:

• David French: There Are Monsters in Your Midst, Too
• David French: If We Keep This Up, Charlie Kirk Will Not Be the Last to Die
• Roundtable discussion, including David French: The ‘Fork in the Road’ After Charlie Kirk’s Death
• David French’s Divided We Fall

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Modern Challenges of Self-Worth and Lies

Host Curtis Chang talks with author and women’s ministry leader Emily Wilson about faith, motherhood, and battling the lies of shame and self-hatred. Drawing from C.S. Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters and her new book Sincerely, Stoneheart, Emily explores how screens, productivity pressures, and cultural messages distort our identity—and how the truth of God’s love can set us free.

(00:01) - Reimagining CS Lewis for Modern Times

(04:54) - Women and Good vs. Evil

(08:27) - Women and Men’s Unique Vulnerabilities to Evil

(13:03) - Did C.S. Lewis Miss Something About Women?

(14:53) - C.S. Lewis and Friendship

(19:08) - Unveiling Truths About Motherhood and Screens

(28:01) - The Lie of Productivity

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Emily Wilson’s Sincerely Stoneheart
• Learn more about C.S. Lewis (C.S. Lewis Institute)
• The Background surrounding C.S. Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters
• More about Lewis’s friendships and the Inklings
• Listen to Good Faith Episode 160 - Resetting Your Faith: Exploring the Strength of Biblical Mothers with Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLea authors of Moms at the Well
• NIH’s Study on depression, screen time, and women (abstract)

More from Emily Wilson:

• Emily Wilson’s Website
• Find Emily Wilson on Instagram
• Watch Emily Wilson on YouTube
• Find Emily Wilson on Facebook

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Why Is Your Inner Life So Complicated?

Host Curtis Chang and therapist Dr. Alison Cook connect dive into conversation about the intersection of Christian faith, psychology, and emotional health. Together they explore how overcoming shame, naming emotions, and quieting one’s inner critic can lead to spiritual growth and deeper empathy. Drawing on the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, Dr. Cook provides tools to manage the competing voices within.

(00:01) - Exploring Inner and Outer Complexity

(03:45) - Compassionate Curiosity and Inner Complexity

(17:16) - Unlocking Inner Complexity Through Exploration

(22:28) - Navigating the Inner Soul Complexity

(33:48) - Cultivating Inner Harmony for Leadership

(37:45) - Journey of Inner Exploration

Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional health and inner well being.

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Learn more about Internal Family Systems (IFS) Model
• Learn more about Dr. Richard Schwartz
• Dr. Anna Lembke’s Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence
• Read Isaiah 6:5 ESV (and related scriptures)
• Henry Nouwen: "Finding Our Sacred Center" (video, 1994)
• Explaining the True Therapy in 'Inside Out' (video)
• Explore the 5 Things Inside Out 2 Got Right about IFS Therapy
• Read about The Doctrine of the Trinity: No Christianity Without It

More from Dr. Alison Cook:

• Explore Dr. Cook’s website
• Listen to Dr. Cook’s podcast: The Best of You
• Read Dr. Cook’s book The Best of You: Break Free from Painful Patterns, Mend Your Past, and Discover Your True Self in God
• Read Dr. Cook’s book I Shouldn't Feel This Way: Name What’s Hard, Tame Your Guilt, and Transform Self-Sabotage into Brave Action

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We Can Find Common Ground Even in Washington, D.C.

Good Faith’s series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, Daniel, a pastor in Reston, Virginia, reflects on 23 years of ministry near Washington D.C., where politics and faith are in constant conversation. Inspired to bring the community – inside and outside of his church – together through civic discourse, he championed an initiative to create spaces for meal sharing and meaningful dialogue, creating curiosity and seeking unity across political lines. Daniel’s story shows how one pastor can change the way we do church to cultivate reconciliation, hope, and community in the most polarized of towns.

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From Jeffrey Epstein to QAnon, Why Do Conspiracies Thrive in Churches?

The Atlantic’s Pete Wehner, Christianity Today’s Emily Belz, and host Curtis Chang dive into QAnon, conspiracy theories, and the MAGA movement’s influence on American politics, culture, and the church. From Donald Trump’s messianic image to the shadows of Jeffrey Epstein, they reveal why conspiracies thrive in times of distrust—and how faith communities can fight back with truth and resilience.

(01:58) - Understanding the QAnon Conspiracy Movement

(04:10) - The Impact of QAnon Beliefs

(10:55) - The Role of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

(17:13) - Christian Vulnerability to Conspiracy Theories

(25:13) - The History of Christianity and Conspiracies

(30:14) - The Grip of Trump on MAGA

(40:36) - Challenges Facing Church Leadership Today

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Emily Belz: How QAnon Lives On Under Trump 2.0
• Pete Wehner: Trump Discovers MAGA Has No ‘Off’ Switch
• Wired: All The Times Kash Patel Promoted QAnon
• FOX News: AG Pam Bondi on Epstein files: 'The public has a right to know' (March 3)
• Politico: Outraged Trump supporters not placated by DOJ’s actions on Epstein
• New York Times: Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theories He Only Winked at Before
• Life Way Research: 50% of U.S. Protestant Pastors Hear Conspiracy Theories in Church
• American Enterprise Institute: Findings from the January 2021 American Perspectives Survey
• Nicholas Carr's The Shallows
• More about Historical Antisemetic Conspiracies: Blood Libel
• More about William Miller & the Millerites

More from Emily Belz & Pete Wehner:

• Emily Belz’s article at Christianity Today
• Pete Wehner’s articles at The Atlantic

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Faithful Actions and a Blueprint for Societal Healing

Former Ohio Governor John Kasich joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to share how character, faith, and even suffering shape real leadership in a divided America. Drawing from the Governor’s new book Heaven Help Us, he and Curtis unpack why objective truth matters more than ever, how faith communities and neighborhoods can spark real change, and why grassroots action beats toxic politics every time. The conversation explores the power of authentic relationships and faith-driven hope to help fix what’s broken in our neighborhoods and our country.

(00:01) - Finding Faith Amid Suffering and Service

(08:31) - Character, Faith, and Political Analysis

(19:20) - Community Engagement and Faith-Based Action

(32:51) - Inspiring Faith Communities and Hope

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Governor Kasich’s book Heaven Help Us: How Faith Communities Inspire Hope, Strengthen Neighborhoods, and Build the Future
• Ernie Johnson’s Thoughts On the 2016 Election (starting at 4:05)
• Different versions of the scripture about Job and his friends
• Read about Helmut Thielecke
• Audio Archives featuring Helmut Thielicke
• A theological unpacking of Romans 8:28
• Books by Tremper Longman
• Tim Keller’s Gospel in Life website
• The history of the Vineyard Church in America
• Learn more about Convoy of Hope

More from Governor John Kasich:

• Governor Kasich’s website
• Governor Kasich’s book Every Other Monday: Twenty Years of Life, Lunch, Faith, and Friendship
• Governor Kasich’s book Courage Is Contagious: Ordinary People Doing Extraordinary Things To Change The Face Of America

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Suffering’s Transformative Power in Faith and Mental Health

What if suffering isn’t the enemy—but the doorway to beauty, connection, and hope? Psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins host Curtis Chang for a raw and redemptive conversation on how pain, anxiety, and fear of abandonment shape our lives and our faith. Grounded in both Scripture and neuroscience, this episode challenges the myths we carry about control and invites us into deeper attachment with God and others.

(00:01) - Exploring Suffering and Transformation

(11:30) - Exploring Suffering and Connection

(12:45) - The Object of God’s Glory and the Object of God’s Wrath

(25:09) - Embracing Suffering With Community and Compassion

(36:57) - Inviting Healing and Transformation Through Suffering

Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional resilience and spiritual formation through suffering.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Dr. Thompson's The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope
• Dr. Thompson's Anatomy of the Soul: Surprising Connections Between Neuroscience and Spiritual Practices That Can Transform Your Life and Relationships
• C.S. Lewis’s The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
• C.S. Lewis’s The Weight of Glory

Scripture mentioned in this episode:

• Read Mark 10:35-40 (ESV) - Jesus’ question to James and John
• Read Genesis 2:16-18 (ESV) - God tells the man He will surely die
• Read Genesis 1-3 (ESV) - The narrative of creation and fall, as the origins of suffering
• Read John 1:14 (ESV) - Jesus is God’s glory
• Read Psalm 22 (ESV) - The Psalm quoted by Jesus in the Gethsemane

More from Dr. Curt Thompson:

• Dr. Thompson’s website
• Dr. Thompson’s The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves
• Dr. Thompson’s The Soul of Desire: Discovering the Neuroscience of Longing, Beauty, and Community

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Finding Common Ground in a Divided World

What can strife in Israel and Palestine teach us about America’s own political polarization? Host Curtis Chang sits down with conflict resolution expert Nathan Stock of the Carter Center to explore some of the hard truths from Middle East—and the surprising parallels here at home. From media-fueled division to the hope for bipartisan breakthroughs, Curtis and Nathan unpack how deep-rooted conflict forms—and offer pathways to bring healing and hope.

(00:01) - Navigating Conflict in the Middle East

(14:05) - Lessons from Northern Ireland and South Africa

(16:42) - Building Hope for Conflict Resolution

(25:18) - Different Brain Types and Polarization

(26:30) - Bridging Political Divides to Further U.S. Unity

(39:27) - Building Community Through Shared Stories

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Summary: The "Six Day War" of 1967 (U.S. Dept. of State)
• Overview: October 7, 2023 and the Israel/Hamas Conflict (U.S. Congress)
• An Explanation of The Geneva Conventions and their Commentaries (The Red Cross)
• An Explanation of The Good Friday Agreement (Associated Press)
• Remembering The Breakup of Yugoslavia (U.S. Office of the Historian)
• Abstract: Shared neural representations and temporal segmentation of political content predict ideological similarity (Science Advances)
• John R. Hibbing, Kevin B. Smith, & John R. Alford’s book Predisposed: The Left, The Right, and The Biology of Political Differences
• NPR Poll: Most feel democracy is threatened and political violence is a major problem

The Carter Center’s Conflict Work:

• Nathan Stock’s article: There’s a new silent majority — and they need to be activated
• The Carter Center’s Democracy Program
• The Carter Center’s Conflict Resolution Program
• The Carter Center’s Conflict Resolution Reports

More In Common Studies:

• Listening Across Difference: What Americans feel, fear, and want to learn
• Interpreting young Americans’ views on government, the Constitution, and the appeal of authoritarian alternatives​
• The Connection Opportunity: Insights for Bringing Americans Together Across Difference

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Empathy and Empowerment in Economic Challenges

What if economic justice isn’t about charity—but solidarity and investment? Harvard MBA Giselle Garraway shares how she left corporate America to found ThriveFunds, a platform that empowers working poor families with dignity-centered investments in their everyday lives. From a street sweeper chasing dreams of restoring a broken family to a working mom caring for both her husband and aging parents, Curtis and Gisele uncover how small, targeted support and investments can transform lives—and shift hearts across economic lines. They explore systemic setbacks and challenge some of the myths of meritocracy while asking: what does it truly mean to love your neighbor today?

(00:01) - Introduction

(02:48) - Gisele Garraway’s Story and Work

(12:42) - Investing in Working Families

(19:55) - Building Bridges Across Economic Divides

(36:15) - Systemic Aspects of Government Benefits and Poverty

(47:35) - Embodying Human Solidarity in Community

(56:11) - Credits

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Matthew Desmond’s Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City
• Matthew Desmond’s Poverty, by America
• Gallup Study: 50% in U.S. Fear Bankruptcy Due to Major Health Event
• USA Today: The average American is closer to being homeless than being Elon Musk
• The United Way’s research on Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed Americans
• Richard Rothstein’s The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America
• Tom Holland’s Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World
• Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr’s Strength to Love

Scripture Passages About Caring for the Poor:

• Matthew 22:37-40 (ESV)
• Psalm 146:5-7 (ESV)
• 1 John 3:17-18 (ESV)
• Deuteronomy 15:10-11 (ESV)
• James 2:15-17 (ESV)
• Isaiah 58:6-11; 13-14 (ESV)

More about ThriveFunds:

• Learn More about ThriveFunds
• Explore ThriveFunds model and Four Categories of Service
• Be Encouraged by ThriveFunds podcast
• Bio: Gisele Garraway

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Is Superman Woke—or Just Wonderfully Human?

Can a superhero cut through the world’s chaos better than a political debate or another sermon? New York Times columnist David French and Christianity Today editor-in-chief Russell Moore explore why Superman still strikes a cultural nerve—especially in the age of outrage and “wokeness” debates. From his immigrant origins to the often-overlooked theme of adoption, they unpack how James Gunn’s 2025 reboot revives timeless questions about identity, belonging, moral courage, and kindness. This conversation is more than capes and kryptonite—it’s a surprising, thoughtful, and even fun look at the stories shaping who we are.

(00:00) - Exploring the Resonance of Superhero Myths

(07:24) - Fun That Connects To Deeper Needs

(10:10) - A Jewish Immigrant’s Myth

(15:40) - Exploring James Gunn’s Superman 2025

(23:06) - Is Superman Woke?

(27:04) - Kindness as a Countercultural Value

(34:11) - Parenting With Superheroes and Morals

(51:09) - Credits

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Russell Moore’s article Why Superman Matters
• David French’s column Kindness Is MAGA Kryptonite
• J.R.R. Tolkien’s On Fairy Stories
• J.R.R. Tolkien’s eucatastrophe (an essay)
• C.S. Lewis’ “True Myth”: The Myth That Became Fact
• C.S. Lewis’ Reviews of Lord of the Rings (veil of familiarity)
• Grant Morrison’s Super Gods
• Official Trailer: Super/Man: The Christopher Reeve Story
• Sonny Bunch’s article How to Decide If You Want to Watch ‘Superman’
• A short interview with Superman’s creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (video)
• Übermensch Explained: the Meaning of Nietzsche’s ‘Superman’
• The Times interview James Gunn: Some people will take offence at my new Superman
• Read Deuteronomy 17:16-17 (NLT)
• Social Commentary in The Office
• Wonder Woman vol. 5 Annual #1 Batman & Superman share their real names (video)
• Relevant Magazine: What the Superman Backlash Says About American Masculinity

More From David French:

• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

More From Russell Moore:

• Sign up for Russell Moore’s weekly newsletter Moore to the Point
• Listen to The Russell Moore Show (podcast)

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What Role Does Jordan Peterson Play in Shaping Young Men's Views on Masculinity?

Host Curtis Chang teams up with “founding friend” and New York Times columnist David French to unpack David’s recent conversation with Jordan Peterson—and the crisis facing young men today. From mental health struggles to educational decline, David and Curtis take a hard look at what’s shaping young male identity in modern America, including the outsized influence of figures like Peterson. They explore how political polarization, digital culture, and a loss of purpose are driving young men to extremes. Most importantly, they offer a redemptive vision: practical ways to cultivate virtuous masculinity through mentorship, community, and spiritual formation.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• David’s column What’s the Matter With Men?
• David French appears on Jordan Peterson’s podcast
• Urban and Rural numbers on "Deaths of Despair" (NIH)
• The Widening Gender Gap
• Reflections: Men Without Chests (from C.S. Lewis’ The Abolition of Man)
• Admiral William H. McRaven’s 2014 Commencement Address
• Of Boys and Men: A Conversation with Richard Reeves
• Richard Reeves’ Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
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Teen Anxiety Is Skyrocketing—How Can Parents and Churches Help?

Anxiety is overwhelming today’s teens—and Curtis Chang knows the struggle firsthand. Joined by “founding friend” David French and Dr. Kara Powell of the Fuller Youth Institute, this deep dive into the mental health crisis facing our youth, exposes the pressure-cooker of social media, why parenting style matters, and why anxiety and depression continue to rise. If you're tired of hand-wringing and ready for hope-filled action, this conversation delivers clarity, challenge, and compassion.

Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode seeks to empower parents to help the next generation to navigate anxiety with faith and community.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• The work of the Fuller Youth Institute
• The Fuller Youth Institute’s Sticky Faith
• Fuller Youth Institute’s Faith in an Anxious World
• Jonathan Haidt: The Dangerous Experiment on Teen Girls
• CDC: Depression Prevalence in Adolescents and Adults: U.S., Aug '21–Aug '23
• New York times: What Social Media Does to the Teen Brain
• Angela Duckworth’s The Good Life Project
• Angela Duckworth’s Research
• Lisa DaMour’s work and books
• Scott Cormode profile at Fuller Seminary
• Springtide Research Institute

More From Kara Powell:

• Dr. Powell’s TheoED Talk: 3 Big Questions that Change Every Young Person
• Dr. Powell on instagram
• Dr. Powell on X (formerly Twitter)

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Navigating Spiritual Disruption, Denominational Shifts, and Starting Over

What happens when your spiritual home no longer fits—and life threatens to spiral? Curtis Chang and bestselling author and speaker Beth Moore get real about the realities of spiritual resets, mental health struggles, and finding gospel-centered hope in unexpected places. This timely episode explores how disruption can open the door to renewal, even when a spiritual reset is unwelcome.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Barna: Five Trends Defining Americans’ Relationship to Churches (2020)
• ChurchTrac: The State of Church Attendance: Trends and Statistics (2025)
• Millennial Church Attendance and Trends According to Barna Research
• Medical News Today: What to know about PTSD and bipolar disorder
• 1 Corinthians 13 (NLT & AMP)
• Philippians 2 (NLT & AMP)

More From Beth Moore:

• Living Proof Ministries
• Beth Moore’s All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir
• Beth Moore’s catalog of books

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Finding the Biblical Ruth and Boaz In Today’s Culture of Confusion

What does an ancient love story have to say about modern chaos? Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch dive into the Book of Ruth to uncover radical lessons on redemption, loyalty, and faithfulness that challenge today’s culture of individualism and spiritual mobility. From Naomi’s grief to Ruth’s fierce commitment and Boaz’s redemptive actions, Andy and Curtis explore how acts of devotion can disrupt systems of power and reshape community. Discover how an old story can offer fresh vision for navigating displacement, hospitality, and purpose in our fractured world.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Book of Ruth (ESV)
• Rachael Starke’s Boys will be Boaz (TGC article)
• Judges 19-20 (ESV) - the Levite’s concubine
• N.T. Wright explains Scripture as narrative (video)
• Understanding the Hebrew word hesed
• Understanding gleaning in the story of Ruth
• The role of and the ultimate kinsman-redeemer

More From Andy Crouch:

• Interact with Andy’s website
• Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
• Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For
• Read Andy’s book: The Tech-Wise Family

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Praying for Change: A Path to National Reconciliation

Feeling stuck on how to pray for America? You’re not alone—but there is a path forward. In this timely episode, Good Faith “founding friend” and New York Times columnist David French lays out five virtue-based ways to pray for our nation with clarity, courage, and compassion. Drawing upon Scripture with a healthy dose of personal reflection, David extols the importance of praying for America as a daily act to seek God’s best for our country and each other—restoring unity and healing what’s broken.

Episode Companion: Prayer Guide

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Scriptures mentioned in this episode:

• 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 (ESV)
• The Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:5-13 (ESV)
• "The Ministry of Reconciliation" in 2 Corinthians 5:11-21 (ESV)
• Jesus Prays in the Garden of Gethsemane in Matthew 26:36-46 (ESV)
• Micah 6:8
• Ephesians 4:3
• Isaiah 42:3
• Psalm 34:18

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• The Ongoing Los Angeles Protests
• Australian journalist shot by rubber bullet during L.A. protests (video)
• Waymo taxis Ablaze in Los Angeles
• Georgetown scholar recalls ‘mockery of due process’ in immigration jail
• The Westminster Confession's Standards for the 9th Commandment
• South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission
• Les Miserables: The Bishop and the Redemption of Jean Valjean
• What Is Restorative Justice?
• More about the work of Brennan Manning
• Tim Keller’s Prayer: Experiencing Awe and Intimacy with God
• Dennis F. Kinlaw’s Prayer: Bearing the World as Jesus Does
• E.M. Bounds on Prayer
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer on Praying the Psalms
• The work of Michael Card
• More about the work of Rich Mullins
• The Lost Dogs’ Pray Where You Are (song & lyrics)

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Inspired by the Good Faith podcast, ER doctor Andy embarks on a transformative journey from the high-stakes of the emergency room to a profound spiritual rediscovery and move to seek out a real life faith community. Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories, invites listeners to share how the podcast has inspired them to engage deeply with their families and communities. These personal narratives illuminate how individuals like you are grappling with complex issues and fostering meaning right where they live. Join us for Andy's Campfire Story. Send your Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org

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How do you hold on to faith when life falls apart?

Pastor and author Ray Ortlund joins host Curtis Chang for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about suffering, betrayal, regret, and even death—drawing from personal stories and the powerful promise of Isaiah 57:15. From the fractures of the global church to intimate heartbreak, Curtis and Ray explore how spiritual honesty, resurrection hope, the Psalms, and lived community can sustain us through rock-bottom moments. If you're facing pain, loss, or doubt, Ray offers a faithful roadmap toward healing and hope.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• John Wesley’s Rules for Small Groups
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s Life Together (pdf)
• A discussion on John Wesley’s theology of dying
• Isaiah 57:15 ESV
• Matthew 5:10-12 NIRV
• Philippians 2:12-13 ESV

More From Ray Ortlund:

• Ray Ortlund’s Good News at Rock Bottom
• Ray Ortlund & Sam Alberry’s podcast: You're Not Crazy
• Ray Ortlund’s Renewal Ministries
• Follow Ray Ortlund on Instagram
• Follow Ray Ortlund on Bluesky

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What can 1920s Germany teach us about American politics today?

Georgetown professor and national security expert Dr. Paul D. Miller joins host Curtis Chang to explore striking parallels between the Weimar Republic and our current moment of democratic fragility. From the rise of Christian nationalism to the erosion of institutional norms, they unpack the theological, historical, and civic fault lines shaping today’s polarized landscape. Buckle up—this episode is for anyone ready to trade tribalism for truth and confront the urgent role Christians must play in defending democracy.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Paul D. Miller’s article: A Confessing Church for America's Weimar Moment
• Paul D. Miller’s previous appearance on the Good Faith podcast: Episode 36: The Religion of American Greatness
• The history of the Weimar Republic
• The rise and fall of the Weimar Republic (video)
• Christians against Nazis: the German Confessing Church
• Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the Confessing Church
• Karl Barth in Nazi Germany
• Sandy Berger’s theft of classified information
• Pete Hegseth shares classified information
• Reining in "Imperial Presidency" executive orders

More From Paul D. Miller:

• Paul D. Miller’s The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism
• Paul D. Miller on X (formerly Twitter)
• Paul D. Miller at The Dispatch

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What does it mean to truly belong in America?

Michael Luo, executive editor at The New Yorker and author of Strangers in the Land, joins Redeeming Babel’s director of content, DT Slouffman, to explore the Asian American experience—from the legacy of the Chinese Exclusion Act to the rise in anti-Asian hate during the COVID-19 pandemic. Drawing from personal stories and a viral moment that sparked national conversation, Luo confronts the “perpetual foreigner” stereotype and envisions a more inclusive vision of American identity. DT and Michael unpack how race, immigration, and belonging continue to shape all of our lives.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Michael Luo’s An Open Letter to the Woman Who Told My Family to Go Back to China
• Kirkus Reviews: A Vast History Began With One Sidewalk Encounter
• Chinese Exclusion Act, 1882
• The Burlingame-Seward Treaty, 1868
• Immigration and Nationality Act, 1965
• Pew Research: Asian American discrimination in the COVID-19 pandemic
• Pew Research: A third of Asian Americans changed daily routine due to threats

More From Michael Luo:

• Michael Luo’s Strangers in the Land: Exclusion, Belonging, and the Epic Story of the Chinese in America
• Michael Luo’s latest articles at The New Yorker
• Follow Michael Luo on Instagram
• Follow Michael Luo on X (formerly Twitter)

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Professor French Tells What Gen Z Can Teach All of Us!

What happens when one of America's top legal minds steps back into the classroom—only to be schooled by Gen Z? New York Times columnist and Good Faith contributor David French joins Curtis Chang to reflect on what a year of teaching college students taught him about faith, over-parenting, and the future of American democracy. Together, they explore whether this rising generation is rejecting political tribalism in favor of ethical engagement—or simply afraid to speak up in polarized times. Could Gen Z's quiet shift reshape our fractured public square?

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Lipscomb University’s College of Leadership & Public Service
• Supreme Court case: Marbury v. Madison
• Gettysburg Address
• Brown v. Board of Education
• The Coddling of the American Mind (Chapter 1: pdf Download)
• John Locke Foundation
• Council for Christian Colleges & Universities

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
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How Do We Overcome the Hidden Forces Behind Marital Challenges?

How does your relationships—or even your parents’ marriage—shape the way you see beauty, brokenness, and the world itself? Therapist Dan Allender joins host Curtis Chang for a raw, insightful conversation on how relationships form the backbone of our worldview, especially in times of stress and trauma. They unpack hidden triggers behind marital conflict, the power of empathy over contempt, and why kindness and repentance are key to lasting connection. Whether you're navigating conflict or craving deeper intimacy, this episode delivers transformative wisdom for healthier, faith-rooted relationships.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Read Becky Allender’s written pieces for The Allender Center

Learn more about Steve Call’s The Reconnect Institute

Learn more about the work of Drs. John & Julie Gottman at The Gottman Institute

More From Dan Allender:

Dan Allender & Steve Call’s The Deep-Rooted Marriage

Learn more about Dan’s work at The Allender Center

Check out Dan Allender’s other books

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How does the legacy of racial covenants impact housing equity and even fire recovery?

Host Curtis Chang welcomes Jasmin Shupper, visionary founder and CEO of Greenline Housing Foundation, to explore how racial injustice magnifies the impact of natural disasters. Together, they dive into the devastating effects of the LA fires—particularly the Eaton Fire in Altadena—where Black homeowners have faced disproportionate losses due to historical practices like redlining and racially restrictive covenants. Jasmin shares how her mission to close the racial wealth gap and prevent mass displacement offers a path toward real estate justice, resilience, and renewal. She also reflects on her personal journey from Chicago’s South Side to leading national efforts for housing equity and disaster recovery.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Remembering the subprime mortgage crisis
• 40 Acres and a Mule (video)
• Pasadena Community Foundation: the Altadena Builds Back Foundation
• Richard Rothstein’s The Color of Law
• Richard Rothstein on Fresh Air: How The U.S. Government Segregated America
• Stanford uses AI to find: Racially Restrictive Covenants
• Redlining in real estate: How discriminatory practices still affect Black communities

Aftermath of the Eaton Fire in Altadena:

• All Altadena Land Owners Impacted by Eaton Fire Have Turned in Right of Entry Forms
• Looting Fuels 250% Crime Surge in Fire-Devastated Altadena
• These theater kids rise from the ashes of the Eaton fire

More from Jasmin Shupper & Greenline Housing:

• Learn More about Greenline Housing Foundation
• Greenline’s work with Eaton Fire victims: https://greenlinehousing.org/eaton-fire/
• PBS features Greenline's work after the wildfires
• LAist features Greenline's development work to keep Altadena diverse
• CBS News features Greenline and real estate after the Eaton Fire

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Is there a Christian response to our divided country?

Host Curtis Chang is joined by David French and Russell Moore to unpack what Trump’s agenda and executive actions demand from people of faith. From foreign policy chaos and attacks on democratic institutions to political fatigue and Christian witness, this conversation gets real about the cost of following Jesus in a divided America. Curtis, David, and Russell confront the pull of fear and apathy—and offer a better path rooted in truth, hope, courage, and acts of worship.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• New poll: millions of Trump voters regret their choice
• Here are the top 5 immigration changes from Trump's first 100 days
• Trump’s strange wording illustrates One-sided Ukraine peace plan
• David Whyte on Anxiety
• Thomas Merton’s Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander
• Harvard pledges reforms following internal reports on antisemitism
• Under pressure from Trump, Columbia plans its next move
• Transcript of Brown v. Board of Education (1954)
• Explainer Video: Brown v. Board of Eduction II Case Brief Summary
• Aurelius Augustine’s The City of God: Volume I (pdf)
• Phil Wickham’s What An Awesome God (Organic)
• Worship with Songs for The After Party

More From Russell Moore:

• Sign up for Russell Moore’s weekly newsletter Moore to the Point
• Listen to The Russell Moore Show (podcast)

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• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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How should Christians engage with political power in a divided world?

Contributor Andy Crouch joins Curtis Chang to trace a path from the courage of the early believers under Caesar to today’s crisis-driven politics and the ruling class. Together, they dive into the rise of emergency powers, growing contempt, and the breakdown of civil discourse—and offer a hopeful vision for how the Fruit of the Spirit can reshape both Christian posture and a public life rooted in love, gentleness, and faithfulness.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Explaining The Land of Israel Under Roman Rule
• Matthew 22:21 - "Render therefore unto Caesar..." (multiple versions and explanation)
• Explaining The Majesty of Herod’s Temple
• Augustus Caesar and the the title Divi filius, “son of a god” (audio)
• The Holy Roman Empire: The Rise of Medieval Europe (video)
• Tish Harrison Warren’s Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep
• Fact sheet about PEPFAR
• Wendell Berry’s The Hidden Wound
• Wendell Berry’s ‘The Hidden Wound’ at Fifty (article from 2020)
• Galatians 5:22 - Fruit of the Spirit (multiple versions and explanation)

More from Andy Crouch:

• Interact with Andy’s website
• Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
• Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For
• Read Andy’s book: The Tech-Wise Family

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Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days

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Can Literary Wisdom Counter Despair and Deepen Your Faith?

In this episode of Good Faith Presents: Reading to Make Sense of the World, Curtis Chang and author-professor Jessica Hooten Wilson explore the spiritual insights of Flannery O’Connor’s prayer journal. They examine how O’Connor’s raw honesty, humility, and startling imagery confront the modern obsession with self and offer a radical vision of divine grace. Jessica helps listeners see why O’Connor’s work is more than provocative—it’s prophetic.

Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Flannery O’Connor at 100
• Excerpts from Flannery O'Connor's journal (printed in The New Yorker)
• Flannery O’Connor’s A Prayer Journal
• Jessica Hooten wilson’s Flannery O'Connor's Why Do the Heathen Rage?: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at a Work in Progress
• A Life in Psychiatry and Literature: (an interview with Robert Coles)
• Good Faith episode featuring Amy Low (Facing Cancer with Humor and Hope)
• Good Faith episode featuring Nancy French (Ghosted: an American Story)
• What Is Kafkaesque? - The 'Philosophy' of Franz Kafka (video explainer)

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• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica’s books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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How Can Mundane Moments Become Sacred Acts?

Host Curtis Chang welcomes Every Moment Holy author Douglas McKelvey for a special Holy Week conversation about how liturgical prayer can transform daily routines into sacred encounters. What if folding laundry or doing dishes could become moments of divine connection? As Easter approaches, Curtis and Douglas invite you to step into a deeper spiritual rhythm—where every moment pulses with holy meaning. Douglas also leads listeners in some liturgical prayers from his books.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• James K.A. Smith: You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit (video talk)
• James K.A. Smith’s You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit
• The 1928 U. S. Book of Common Prayer (pdf version)
• The Creed commonly called the Apostles’ Creed (pdf version)
• Evening Prayer (Sedona Rite) (including The Lord’s Prayer)
• Andrew Roycroft’s Substack: New Grub Street

More from Douglas McKelvey:

• Every Moment Holy Books & Prayers (The Rabbit Room)
• Douglas McKelvey’s Instagram

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Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days

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Could modern monasticism and its role in today's church revitalize your faith?

Host Curtis Chang welcomes pastor and modern-day monastic Jared Boyd to explore the transformative power of modern monasticism. Discover how ancient spiritual practices are being revived through the Order of Common Life to renew the Church, strengthen clergy integrity, and address challenges that have led many toward deconstruction. Learn how intentional community and contemplative rhythms can foster deep spiritual growth and vibrant faith—offering a vision for the future of church renewal through monastic traditions.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• About St. Benedict of Nursia
• About St. Francis of Assisi
• Phyllis Tickle's Divine Hours
• Phyllis Tickle defines Fixed-hour prayer
• Book of Common Prayer (online version)
• Rule of St. Benedict (pdf)
• Ralph Winter (Ralph D. Winter Research Center)
• Mother Teresa’s A Dark Spiritual Life and Love of The Poor

More from Jared Boyd:

• Order of Common Life
• Jared’s website
• Jared’s Instagram
• Jared Boyd’s Finding Freedom in Constraint: Reimagining Spiritual Disciplines as a Communal Way of Life
• Jared Boyd’s Imaginative Prayer: A Yearlong Guide for Your Child's Spiritual Formation

Good Faith Live “Watch Party”:

Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days

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How Can We Create Faith-Driven Solutions for a World in Need?

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Dana Wichterman, a former USAID and Department of Commerce development expert, and Bill Wichterman, a former special assistant to President George W. Bush, to explore how faith-driven impact investing can help fill the gap left by reduced U.S. government aid to the poor and vulnerable. They unpack practical ways Jesus followers can align their financial resources with their values, support global humanitarian efforts, and drive lasting change. Discover how people of all income levels can turn generosity into powerful, faith-fueled action.

Good Faith Live “Watch Party”:

Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang: Trump's First 100 Days

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Timeline of USAID dismantling
• An oral history of PEPFAR with Gov. Bill Frist (video)
• The Europe cuts foreign aid and development
• Department of State to resume PEPFAR programming
• Conspiracy theories are fuelling attacks on NGOs and aid workers
• The State of Church Giving: Church Trends and Statistics [2025]
• I Peter 4:10 (all translations)
• 2 Corinthians 9:5-15 NLT
• Historical Poverty Tables: People and Families:1959 to 2023
• Eric Ha (for TIME): Foreign Aid Is Retreating. The Church Must Not
• John Porter tells the story of Masaka Creamery (video)
• Haiti: Where Has All the Money Gone?
• Impact Investing Has Come of Age
• Why Christians Should Never Retire by Chris Cagle

Philanthropic and Investable Organizations Mentioned:

• TRUSTBRIDGE Global
• International Justice Mission
• The Gathering of Christians in Philanthropy
• Masaka Farms
• Impact Foundation
• Verdant Frontiers (Scott Friesen)

More from Dana & Bill Wichterman:

• www.stewardsnotowners.com
• Dana & Bill Wichterman’s book Stewards Not Owners: The Joy of Aligning Your Money with Your Faith

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Thanks to your questions, Good Faith listeners are the guests of this episode that’s meant to spark spiritual insights and challenge church norms.

From queries about navigating belief in a politically toxic climate to finding community after deconstruction, Curtis answers your questions with thoughtfulness, wisdom, and compassion. Whether you’re wrestling with faith, curious about theology, or just want to know what’s on Curtis’ playlist, this episode delivers the answers that inquiring minds wanted to know.

Curtis addresses:

• How can someone who has deconstructed find meaningful, Christ-centered community?
• What role should the church play when professed followers of Jesus undermine the gospel?
• What does it mean that God "removes kings and sets up kings"?
• How can we love fellow church members who politically diverge from us?
• Is The After Party project truly nonpartisan—and how was it funded?
• Will artificial intelligence reshape sermon preparation?
• What will life be like in the new heavens and new earth?

Plus: Curtis reveals his five favorite musical artists and the name of the song that opens every Good Faith episode.

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Patrick Schreiner: Recovering the Forgotten Doctrine of Christ’s Ascension
• N.T. Wright: the Ascension of Jesus and Heaven
• N.T. Wright’s Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church
• The Thin Places of Fantasy
• The Nicene Creed
• The Lord's Prayer
• Philippians 3:18-21 (New Living Translation)
• Foreign Aid Is Retreating. The Church Must Not
• Judge: Musk and Trump’s effort to disband USAID is likely unconstitutional
• Daniel 2:21 (English Standard Version)
• 33 Evil Kings of the Old Testament
• I Samuel 8 (Israel asks for a king) (New Living Translation)
• Explore The After Party with Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang
• Answers to questions about The After Party
• Judah & the Lion’s Beautiful Anyway (official music video)
• Judah & the Lion’s website
• Wendell Kimborough’s website
• Sandra McCraken’s website
• Andrew Peterson’s website
• Dave Brubeck’s Time Out album (including Take Five)
• Dave Brubeck’s Fight Against Racism
• Herbie Hancock’s Watermelon Man
• Herbie Hancock’s Rockit

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Good Faith conversations mentioned in this episode:

• David French: Has America’s Role in the World Changed Forever? and Your Questions
• David French: Checks, Balances, and the New Trump Era
• Sandra McCracken: How Music Helps Us Make Sense of God's World
• Advent with Friends: Andrew Peterson and The Way of Love
• Andy Crouch: How to Listen to Music
• Andy Crouch: Do We Need a Worship Music Reformation?

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How can we stay grounded in an anxious political climate?

Leadership anxiety expert Steve Cuss joins the Good Faith Podcast to help us navigate Trump’s turbulent second term without becoming overwhelmed. We explore how chronic anxiety spreads through reactivity, why political leaders and their followers often amplify fear through straw man arguments, and how we can break free from the cycle. Drawing from his experience as a trauma chaplain and beyond, Steve shares practical tools for maintaining spiritual and emotional balance. If political division is making your mind race, heart pound, or body tense, Steve offers wisdom and encouragement to help you find calm and clarity in the chaos.

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Frederick Buechner’s Whistling in the Dark
• The Evangelical vote in 2024
• The Los Angeles Times: Is Donald Trump a new King David?
• “Remember the Lord” from Proverbs 3:6-16 GNT
• Jacob’s assurance from Genesis 28 NLT
• Jesus’ trial before Pilate John 18:28-40 NLT
• Paul’s trials before Festus and Felix Acts 24-26 NLT
• Jesus calls Herod a “fox” Luke 13:31-32 NLT
• Freedom to love others Galatians 5:13
• More about Gregory Boyle

More From Steve Cuss:

• Steve’s podcast Being Human
• Steve’s book Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs
• Steve’s book The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God
• Steve’s website (free access to the Life Giving List and Conscious List of Relationships)

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Radical shifts in the United States are sending shockwaves abroad.

Host Curtis Chang welcomes back “founding friend” David French to examine how Trump’s foreign policy is reshaping America’s global standing. From strained alliances with Canada to shifting U.S. support for Ukraine, and the dismantling of USAID, David and Curtis explore whether the nation has abandoned its long-standing commitment to liberal democracy. Drawing from scripture, historical Christianity, and even the Declaration of Independence, they discuss the deeper implications of the current moment for America's national character and global trust.

Don’t miss the second half of this episode, where David French answers listener questions!

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• The Truth About Fentanyl at the Canada-US Border
• Tariffs on Canada
• Colossians 1:15-17 (New Living Translation)
• The Declaration of Independence
• Michael Gerson's role in PEPFAR
• George W. Bush’s 2023 Op-Ed about the need for PEPFAR
• George W. Bush’s White House Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives
• The Evangelical vote in 2024
• Listen to David’s NYT conversation with Jessica Riedl about DOGE and the deficit
• Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson’s Abundance
• Jake Meador’s Mere Orthodoxy article The Doom of Choice
• Jake Meador’s Mere Orthodoxy article Tolkien's Holy Fools
• Explore The After Party with Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang

More From David French:

• David French’s New York Times pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Everyone wants love and community in a fractured world. What happens when they are lost?

Host Curtis Chang and Pete Wehner, a columnist for The Atlantic and former White House staffer, explore the deep sense of political, cultural, and spiritual exile felt by many Americans. Reflecting on Pete’s journey from shaping policy during 9/11 to breaking from the Republican Party over Donald Trump, they discuss the challenges of shifting identities while staying true to one’s convictions. Drawing from the Psalms, cognitive psychology, and Christian history, they offer a vision for engaging culture and finding new purpose amid political disillusionment and feelings of living in exile, even in the place you call home.

This episode revisits a past conversation to examine cognitive dissonance and the pursuit of truth in times of uncertainty.

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Resources From This Episode:

• Psalm 126 (New Living Translation)
• Winston Churchill’s Painting as a Pastime
• A Short History Of The Dardanelles Campaign
• The GOP and the Birther Trap (article) by Pete Wehner
• Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion
• Jonathan Rauch’s The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth
• Jeremiah 29 (New Living Translation)
• Makoto Fujimura’s Culture Care: Reconnecting with Beauty for Our Common Life
• Mark Labberton’s talk: The Deep Work of a New Creation
• Mark Labberton’s talk: Beauty in Exile
• Rodney Stark (books)
• Russell Moore clip: “Jesus is a hood ornament”
• 2 Corinthians 5 New Living Translation

More From Pete Wehner:

• Read Peter Wehner’s latest article: MAGA Has Found a New Model
• Peter Wehner’s The Atlantic opinion pieces
• Peter Wehner at The Trinity Forum

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Good Faith inspires a campus pastor to create a more meaningful worship experience that drills down hope and gratitude by asking three simple questions.

Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories, invites listeners to share how the podcast has inspired them to engage deeply with their families and communities. These personal narratives illuminate how individuals like you are grappling with complex issues and fostering meaning right where they live. Join us for Mike's Campfire Story.

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What is the hidden influence of Christianity in American society—and what happens if it disappears?

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Jonathan Rauch, senior fellow at the Brookings Institute and author of Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy, to explore how Judeo-Christian values have shaped democracy and what their decline means for our political and social landscape. They discuss the rise of fear within the evangelical church, political polarization, and make the case for Christian virtues as a stabilizing force at the heart of the American republic. Whether you’re a believer or a skeptic, it’s important to understand why Christianity’s influence extends far beyond the church—and why its disappearance could reshape the future of democracy.

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Resources from this episode:

• Jonathan Rauch’s 2003 The Atlantic article Let It Be
• Jonathan Rauch’s Cross Purposes: Christianity's Broken Bargain with Democracy
• The rise of the AfD in Germany
• France holds off the far right
• Pew Research: Modeling the Future of Religion in America
• James Madison and religious freedom
• Can the Religious Right Be Saved? by Dr. Russell Moore
• Dr. Timothy Keller: Suffering: If God is good, why is there so much evil in the world?
• Learn more about The After Party

More From Jonathan Rauch:

• Read the latest article by Jonathan Rauch: One Word Describes Trump
• Jonathan Rauch’s The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth
• Jonathan Rauch’s work at the Brookings Institute
• Jonathan Rauch’s The Atlantic articles

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Move From toxicity to trust, healing, and renewed faith.

Host Curtis Chang and Mike Cosper, creator of "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill" investigate the unsettling realities of church abuse and the unchecked authority that breeds toxicity within faith communities. Drawing from his latest book, "The Church in Dark Times," Cosper discusses the urgent need for accountability in evangelical settings, using the Mars Hill case as a poignant example. Curtis and Mike explore the intersection of leadership and emotional and spiritual abuse to help us all discover pathways to healing and rebuilding trust in the aftermath of betrayal. Don't miss this insightful conversation on the dynamics of power and the importance of safeguarding church values.

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Resources from this episode:

• Mike Cosper’s The Church in Dark Times
• Listen to The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill
• Paul Petry’s Joyful Exiles blog
• Mike Cosper’s Land of My Sojourn
• Learn more about Hannah Arendt
• Hannah Arendt on Adolf Eichmann for the New Yorker: part 1 & part 2
• Kant's Argument for Radical Evil by Stephen R. Grimm (pdf)
• Hannah Arendt’s The Origins of Totalitarianism
• Listen to Dr. Timothy Keller: Don't Despair, God Isolates You for a Reason
• Listen to Dr. Timothy Keller: How to Deal With Dark Times
• Listen to Dr. Timothy Keller: Counter-Culture for the Common Good

More From Mike Cosper:

• Books by Mike Cosper HERE
• Listen to Mike on The Bulletin
• Listen to Devil and the Deep Blue Sea
• Follow Mike’s Instagram

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What do true faith and forgiveness look like in the face of wrongful conviction?

Host Curtis Chang is joined by award-winning journalist Barbara Bradley Hagerty and Ben Spencer, who was wrongfully imprisoned for 34 years. They share Ben’s powerful story of faith, resilience, and redemption in the face of wrongful incarceration. Curtis and Barbara explore the systemic failures of the American justice system and reveal how the innocence movement and investigative journalism were crucial in securing Ben’s exoneration. Ben reflects on how his belief in truth and forgiveness transformed his life, offering hope to others facing adversity.

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Resources from this episode:

• Barbara Bradley Hagerty’s Bringing Ben Home: A Murder, a Conviction, and the Fight to Redeem American Justice
• Jim McCloskey and Centurion Ministries
• Read about Ben at The National registry of Exonerations
• Read the news of Ben's exoneration
• Listen to Barbara’s early reporting on Ben's case
• Read about Judge Rick Magnis’ belief in Ben's innocence
• Read about Ross Perot’s secret witness payout
• Read John 16:33

More From Barbara Bradley Hagerty:

• Read Barbara’s work in The Atlantic
• Check out Barb's website
• Buy Babara’s books

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What Is the Faithful Response to Rising Authoritarianism?

New York Times columnist and “founding friend” David French joins host Curtis Chang to explore the shifting dynamics of American governance under the Trump administration. They explore the growing concentration of executive power and the MAGA-driven erosion of the checks and balances envisioned by the Founders. Curtis and David also discuss the weakening influence of both the legislative and judicial branches, while reflecting on the crucial role of strong family ties, community, and inspired worship for Christians confronting rising authoritarianism.

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• What is DOGE?
• Limiting DOGE’s access and reach
• 1787 Constitution
• I Kings 19:9-18 (Elijah and God’s promise to spare those who do not bend knee to Baal)
• The executive branch taking power from the legislative branch
• Carl Scmidt's Friend-Enemy Distinction
• Media and allies fear Kash Patel's retribution
• Pew Research: How the faithful voted
• The psychology of Trumpism identity fusion
• Can the Insurrection Act be used on American soil?
• Trump supporters trust him more than family & friends
• The Civil Rights Act of 1964
• Praising God is an act of political defiance
• Worship and the Civil Rights Movement

Explore The After Party with Russell Moore, David French, & Curtis Chang

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• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Are you looking for an example of leadership and hope in turbulent times?

Former Congressman Adam Kinzinger joins host Curtis Chang for a conversation on politics, faith, and integrity in the Donald Trump era. Known for his willingness to challenge his own party, Rep. Kinzinger shares candid insights on the moral dilemmas facing political leaders, the long-term impact of principled decision-making, and the fight to preserve democracy. Together, Curtis and the congressman share their own strategies for staying engaged without being consumed by today’s outrage-driven narratives. Rep. Kinzinger offers a compelling example of the principled leadership we need for the future for our country.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• Isaiah 5:20
• I Kings 19:9-18 (Elijah and God’s promise to spare those who do not bend knee to Baal)
• Stephen Miller on border policies
• The Chronicles of Narnia
• The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S.Capitol
• The executive order of pardon and commutation for January 6 insurrectionists
• President Trump pardons January 6 insurrectionists
• Listen to Curtis and David French draft politicians on Good Faith

More From Congressman Kinzinger:

• Watch The Last Republican trailer
• Congressman Kinzinger's Country First movement
• Find on Adam Kinzinger on Bluesky

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Can Reading Lead to Freedom, Connection, and Hope?

In this episode of Good Faith Presents: Reading to Make Sense of the World, Curtis Chang and author-professor Jessica Hooten Wilson explore the enduring power of Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. Together, they unpack how this classic dystopian novel speaks directly to today’s challenges with technology, distraction, and the loss of contemplative silence. Discover the hopeful themes hidden in the science fiction genre as Curtis and Jessica show how literature fosters resilience, creativity, and connection.

Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Ray Bradbury
• Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
• Kindred by Octavia Butler (pdf)
• Love in the Ruins by Walker Percy
• A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr.
• The Republic by Plato (Read online)
• Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift (Read online)

More From Jessica Hooten Wilson:

• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica’s books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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Are smartphones destroying a generation?

Host Curtis Chang unwraps the complexities of smartphone culture in a candid discussion with Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch. They reflect on the initial excitement of tech innovation, juxtaposed with insights from experts like Jonathan Haidt and Jean Twenge on its impact on youth mental health. This exploration of the shift from adventurous childhoods of decades past to the screen-centric experiences of today emphasizes the need for real-world interactions and discernment in our tech engagement.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• How to Become a Tech-Wise Family (ten steps) by Andy Crouch
• The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place by Andy Crouch
• Steve Jobs announces the iPhone on January 9, 2007
• Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation
• Jean Twenge's iGen
• Exploring the Effect of Social Media on Teen Girls’ Mental Health (Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health)
• Teens and Video Games Today (Pew Research)
• A Long-Term Perspective on the History of Technology
• Wall-E (Pixar film trailer 2008)
• What Is Alchemy? (Royal Society of Chemists)
• The Lost Art of Reading a Paper Road Map
• The Controversial Jesus - Jesus and Mammon (talk by Jon Tyson)
• John 8:1-11 (Jesus & the Adulterous Woman)
• Acts 19 (Paul in Ephesus)

Explore Andy Crouch’s work:

• Interact with Andy’s website
• Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
• Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For
• Read Andy’s book: The Tech-Wise Family

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What turns a story of infidelity into forgiveness and healing?

Host Curtis Chang leads a discussion with acclaimed author and humorist Harrison Scott Key that explores what happens when betrayal shatters the foundation of a marriage. Key shares his deeply personal journey of discovering his wife's affair and deciding whether to rebuild or walk away. Drawing from his book, How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever, Chang and Key offer heartfelt insights on forgiveness, healing, and the transformative power of storytelling. Discover how humor, spiritual growth, and nurturing relationships—like tending a garden—can turn life’s darkest moments into opportunities for resilience and renewal.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• The World's Largest Man by Harrison Scott Key
• Soaring Higher Thoughts on G.K. Chesterton’s most famous quote

More From Harrison Scott Key:

• Order a copy of How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever
• Review: How To Stay Married (The Gospel Coalition)
• Harrison Scott Key's website
• Harrison Scott Key on Instagram
• Books for purchase by Harrison Scott Key

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In this New Year bonus episode, host Curtis Chang explores themes of motherhood and spiritual growth with authors Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLean, discussing their work, Moms at the Well. Discover how spiritual formation intersects with motherhood, as they unpack the unique challenges and joys mothers face in nurturing faith, building community, and finding God's presence in everyday struggle. This episode highlights the profound ways maternal experiences shape faith journeys, showcasing the powerful biblical stories of Hagar, Elizabeth, and other marginalized voices often overlooked by the church.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• Hagar's Story: Genesis 16
• The Bleeding Woman's (Batya) Story: Mark 5:21-34
• Elizabeth and Mary's Story: Luke 1

More From Tara Edelschick & Kathy Tuan-MacLean:

• Check out Tara & Kathy's Website
• Get to know Tara Edelschick
• Get to know Kathy Tuan-MacLean
• Purchase Moms at the Well: Meeting God Through the Mothers of Scripture

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Are you ready to trade your New Year’s resolutions for spiritual growth?

Host Curtis Chang and teacher and writer John Mark Comer dive into the transformative journey of spiritual reset to start the new year. Discover practical insights on community, the importance of Sabbath, and how to navigate the distractions of modern life, all aimed at nurturing a deeper spiritual hunger and fostering genuine connection with God and others.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• The Way of the Ascetics (pdf) by Tito Colliender
• How Philip Rieff’s Three Worlds Help Us Understand Cultural Change by Carl R. Trueman
• On the Road with Saint Augustine with James K.A. Smith & Elizabeth Bruenig (video conversation)
• Dopamine Nation by Anna Lempke, MD
• How Principles from the Casino Were Applied to Your Cell Phone by Dr. Liraz Margalit
• We Are Free When We Forget Ourselves by Joshua Luke Smith
• Sabbath is the Climax of Living by Marva Dawn
• The Sabbath (pdf) by Abraham Heschel
• General Examen of Conscience by Ignatious of Loyola
• The Wheel and the Cross: Three Views on Suffering
• Anything could happen, at any moment (and when it does, you'll cope) by Oliver Burkeman
• The Way of the Heart by Henri Nouwen
• More about John Ortberg
• The Phases of the Great Awakenings
• A Beginner's Guide to Lectio Divina
• Read Psalm 1

More From John Mark Comer:

• John Mark Comer’s website HERE
• Get your copy of Practicing the Way
• Read this preview of The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
• Follow john mark comer on instagram

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Resetting our relationship to alcohol

Host Curtis Chang and author Ericka Andersen mark Ericka’s fourth year of sobriety by asking a thought-provoking question: How’s your relationship with alcohol? Together, they explore the challenges of alcohol dependency, why it might be time to reevaluate your connection to drinking, and how to lovingly support others on the same journey. Using the metaphor of alcohol as a “person” woven into our memories and social experiences, they explore the grief that can accompany “breaking up” with alcohol and how the Spirit of God’s still, small voice is sometimes drowned out by cocktail hour. If you’ve ever questioned whether your life might be better without alcohol, this episode offers practical insights and gentle encouragement to take a closer look.

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Ericka's 10 Tools to Find Freedom From Alcohol
• We Are the Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life by Laura McKowen
• Detox.net’s complete drinking habits study
• Washington D.C. has the highest percentage of heavy drinkers
• When a church leader confesses a substance abuse problem (an interview)
• This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol, Find Freedom, Discover Happiness by Annie Grace
• The Luckiest Club: online sobriety support community

More From Ericka Andersen:

• Follow Ericka on Instagram HERE
• Read ericka’s Substack HERE
• Check out Ericka’s website: HERE
• Ericka’s Wall Street Journal piece about Binge Drinking

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What can you expect from 2025?

From abuses of power to the health of millions, host Curtis Chang and “founding friend” David French explore five pivotal stories that will shape how tax dollars are spent, how immigration is addressed, and how governance unfolds in the coming year. The original Good Faith duo challenges listeners to remain steadfast in protecting the vulnerable and speaking the truth. Offering insights on issues impacting America and the world, they encourage reflection and action. As the new year approaches, David urges listeners to pray not necessarily for specific policy outcomes but for wisdom, the courage to oppose evil, and a resolute commitment to justice.

David’s Top 5:

1. January 6 pardons

2. What if RFK Jr. is confirmed?

3. What is the Republican stance on abortion?

4. Are mass deportations really coming?

5. The evolving situation in Ukraine

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• A Brief History of Post-World War II Asylum Law
• Presidential Pardon Power
• The Constitution of the United States (1787)
• Statement from U.S. Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) on his vote to impeach
• The Federalist Papers No. 51 (The Structure of the Government Must Furnish the Proper Checks and Balances Between the Different Departments)
• The Federalist Papers No. 76 (the Appointing Power of the Executive)
• From John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798 (letter)
• Job 21:7-17 “Why do the wicked prosper?”
• Karl Barth and True Practical Theology (blog post)
• Kash Patel’s ”enemies list”
• Abortion measures in Florida

More From David French:

• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Reading to Make Sense of The World: The Wingfeather Saga

In this episode of Good Faith Presents: Reading to Make Sense of the World, Curtis Chang and author-professor Jessica Hooten Wilson dive into Andrew Peterson's Wingfeather Saga to explore why fantasy literature matters—and why it’s important for both children and adults. Together, they unpack some of the deep truths found in imaginative stories and discuss how these tales can shape our understanding of the world. They also share practical steps for making reading with your children a meaningful and transformative practice.

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Resources or references mentioned in this episode:

• Wingfeather Saga books
• Wingfeather Saga book club kits
• Wingfeather Saga television adaptation
• G.K. Chesterton’s “The Ethics of Elfland” from the larger work Orthodoxy
• Walter Wangerin Jr.

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• Jessica Hooten Wilson's website
• Explore Jessica’s books HERE
• Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE

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How does love show up in the creative recipe?

In the final episode of the Good Faith Advent series, host Curtis Chang is joined by Wingfeather Saga author and singer-songwriter Andrew Peterson to explore the theme of Advent love. Together, they discuss how love inspires and sustains creativity, emphasizing that "art at its best is a way of loving." Curtis and Andrew reflect on the creation of the Rabbit Room community, Andrew’s connection to the works of Lewis and Tolkien, and how art like the album Behold the Lamb of God exemplifies the power of sharing the creative process as an act of love. Prepare for Christmas with this heartfelt reminder from Peterson, “Jesus is God, and He loves you.”

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Other Advent Episodes:

Choosing Hope When It feels Out of Reach (Sara Billups)

Rethinking Heavenly Peace (Andy Crouch)

Joy Is More Than A Feeling (with Chuck Mingo)

Referenced in This Episode:

• At Home in the Borderlands A talk by Andrew Peterson
• Walter Wangerin Jr.
• A Prayer Book For Husbands (excerpt) by Walter Wangerin Jr.
• “The Brave One” by Andy Gullahorn
• The Borderlands by Roger Lloyd
• Living Into Focus by Aurthur Boers
• Adam Duritz (The Counting Crows) on songwriting
• Tolkien's Essay: On Fairy-stories
• Pit of Despair drawn by John Hendrix
• Behold the Lamb of God
• The Inklings
• Culture Care: Reconnecting with Beauty for Our Common Life by Makoto Fujimura
• George MacDonald "A Born Preacher" article by Robert H. Ellison
• Wingfeather Saga (animated series)

More From Andrew Peterson:

• Andrew Peterson's website
• The Rabbit Room
• Hutchmoot
• A Guide to the Work of Andrew Peterson

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Have you ever thought, “I’m happy to be in this with you, God”?

In the third episode of the Good Faith Advent series, host Curtis Chang is joined by pastor and author Chuck Mingo to explore the true meaning of Advent joy. Together, they discuss how joy differs from fleeting happiness, and explain why joy deepens when shared with others. Curtis and Chuck also offer practical ways to nurture joy during life’s setbacks and “in-between” spaces. They suggest meaningful practices that can become joy-sustaining traditions, such as affirmations shared with loved ones and gratitude-centered journaling. Join this conversation and discover how joy can be cultivated and spread during the Advent season and beyond.

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Other Advent Episodes:

Choosing Hope When It feels Out of Reach (Sara Billups)

Rethinking Heavenly Peace (Andy Crouch)

Referenced in This Episode:

• The Slaughter of the innocents
• The Flight of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph to Egypt
• The bombing of Martin Luther King, Jr's parsonage
• Black taxi drivers' role during the Montgomery bus boycott
• Handel’s Messiah (original)
• Handel's Messiah: A Soulful Celebration
• Eyes On The Prize (PBS series)
• Reepicheep from the Chronicles of Narnia
• Imagine Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God's Promises, and the Exhilarating
• Future That Awaits You (Amazon)
• The Songs of Zechariah & Mary
• Psalm 103

More From Chuck Mingo:

• Chuck’s work at Undivided

Chuck’s work at Crossroads Church

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What is Advent peace? Does it mean inner peace, world peace, or maybe peace with God and others?

In this second episode of the Good Faith Advent series, Curtis Chang is joined by Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch to explore the true meaning of the peace promised by the coming of Jesus. Together, they challenge common assumptions about peace, using the historical context of Jesus' birth to scrutinize familiar Christmas messages. Curtis and Andy invite listeners to consider an Advent peace that acknowledges suffering and speaks into the hard realities of the holiday season—and everyday life.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• Watch Curtis and Sara Billups’ Advent conversation about hope
• Read about Pax Romana (Roman Peace)
• Explore Simeon’s words to Mary
• Read about the Wales Window of Birmingham, Alabama
• Buy & Read Fleming Rutledge’s The Crucifixion: Understanding the Death of Jesus Christ
• Read one woman’s account of the Camino de Santiago
• Read the story behind Silent Night
• Read the story behind O Little Town of Bethlehem
• Read about the Massacre of the Innocents
• Watch Curtis’ conversation with Amy Low
• Watch/Listen to The Lord Will Have His Way

Explore Andy Crouch’s work:

• Interact with Andy’s website
• Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
• Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For

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What is Advent hope, and how do we hold onto it when life feels overwhelming?

In this first episode of a four-part Good Faith Advent series, Curtis Chang and author Sara Billups explore what true hope looks like for 21st-century Christians navigating consumer culture, climate anxiety, and widespread disillusionment with the church. Drawing on her experiences as a caregiver for her aging parents and as a Gen Xer shaped by the fundamentalism of the 1970s and 80s, Sara reflects on the Gospel story of Simeon, whose patient hope in the long-awaited birth of Jesus offers a timeless example for mid-lifers, millennials, and anyone yearning for hope in troubled times. With practical tips for sharing Advent’s meaning with children, this episode provides encouragement for the whole family.

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Referenced in This Episode:

• Kate Bowler Everything HAppens for A Reason and Other Lies
• Misgivings About Hal Lindsay’s “Planet Earth” by John Piper
• Engage with the Daily Office
• Use the Pray As You Go application
• Read The Morning Offering prayer
• Teaching Children The Examen Prayer
• Order a copy of Every Moment Holy
• Read The Benedictine Rules of Fidelity and Stability (PDF)

More From Sara Billups:

• Check out Sara Billups’ Bitter Scroll Substack
• Buy & read Orphaned Believers by Sara Billups
• Listen to the That's The Spirit podcast with Sara Billups and Morgan Page

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A sister listens to her family even when disagreement over abortion makes it hard.

Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories, invites listeners to share how the podcast has inspired them to engage deeply with their families and communities. These personal narratives illuminate how individuals like you are grappling with complex issues and fostering meaning right where they live. Join us for Alyssa's Campfire Story.

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Is it true that “you can’t believe” anything you read? Can we consume news with a mindset other than cynicism, outrage, or fear?

Host Curtis Chang welcomes journalist and author Jon Ward to discuss why Christians need to care about a well-functioning news culture. With an AP poll on mainstream media showing trust at an all-time low, they explore the reasons behind this crisis—political isolation, social media's influence, and potential media bias. Together, they offer a framework for healthy news consumption, focusing on the postures of spectator, student, and servant, while Jon shares his personal strategies for staying informed in a fractured media landscape.

Referenced in This Episode:

• Gallup: Media Trust Data
• AP Media Trust Polling
• Gallup: Ideology percentages in the U.S.
• Media Bias Chart (based on self-identified ideology)
• The Highest Paid Media Personalities
• Top News Anchor Pay Cuts
• Tucker Carlson’s 2009 Defense of The New York Times

Jon Ward’s Suggested Media Sources:

• The Associated Press
• The New York Times
• The National Review
• Politico
• The Dispatch
• Axios
• The Liberal Patriot
• Wake Up To Politics

Some Local News Options

• The Baltimore Banner
• The Texas Tribune
• Streetcar Suburbs Publishing

More From Jon Ward:

• Check out Jon Ward’s Border-Stalkers Substack
• Buy & read Jon Ward’s book Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation
• Listen to Jon Ward’s podcast The Long Game

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What level of crazy or calm will the next Trump White House bring with it?

Host Curtis Chang is joined by Tim Alberta, author of The Kingdom, The Power, and The Glory, to explore the turbulence surrounding the final days of Donald Trump's 2024 campaign and what it might signal for the next administration. They analyze potential picks for key cabinet roles, examining what these choices could mean for the America's future both domestically and abroad. Curtis and Tim go beyond the palace intrigue to offer thoughtful ways to pray for the president-elect, urging listeners to consider Trump’s humanity, vulnerabilities, and penchant for chaos.

*This episode was recorded on Tuesday Nov 12, 2024 before some of the administration picks had been made.

Referenced in this Episode:

• Read Tim Alberta's The Atlantic piece about the last days of the Trump campaign
• Engage with our course The After Party
• Read 1 Timothy 2:1-2

More From Tim Alberta:

• Check out all of Tim Alberta’s writing for The Atlantic HERE
• Buy & read Tim Alberta’s books HERE
• Follow Tim Alberta on https://x.com/TimAlberta

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Trump Wins, Good Faith Reacts

America elected a new president, and a familiar administration is poised to return to the White House. What does it all mean for Christians? Host Curtis Chang is joined by "founding friend" David French and public theologian Russell Moore to explore the intense emotions many are experiencing in the wake of this election. Together, they dive into listener questions about the global repercussions of another Trump presidency, the complex feelings some Christians experience about the political choices of fellow believers, and the evolving role of the church in a deeply divided America. Confronting shared experiences of anguish, alienation, and anger, the trio offers thoughtful insights into how we can navigate this challenging landscape of emotions about the known and unknown implications of the vote.

Referenced in this Episode:

• Engage with our course The After Party
• Read an interview with Reinhold Niebuhr HERE
• Read Henry David Thoreau’s Walden online
• More on Augustine and the fall of Rome
• Neil Postman predicted Donald Trump in 1985
• Explore the J.R.R. Tolkien Society HERE
• 85 quotations from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings
• C.S. Lewis on courage
• Listen to The Kingdom of Jesus by the Jon Guerra, Sandra McCracken, and Porter’s Gate

More From David French:

• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads
• Listen to David on the Advisory Opinions podcast

More From Russell Moore:

• Read Russell Moore’s Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America
• Listen to The Russell Moore Show podcast
• Explore Russell’s Christianity Today pieces

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Are you ready to cast your ballot?

In this final episode before the presidential election, host Curtis Chang and “founding friend” David French explore the tense feelings and tough questions Christians face as they prepare to vote. They explore how political instability might actually be a gift that pushes Jesus followers to adopt a mindset that seeks to defend the vulnerable, and when it’s necessary challenges “people of good will.” Curtis and David also discuss how social media often amplifies instability rather than providing insight, the importance of finding a virtuous purpose amid uncertainty, and the need for prayers of lament.

Referenced in this Episode:

• Read Curtis Chang’s Washington Post opinion piece Anxious about the nail-biter election? Here's how to survive it.
• Read Augustine’s City of God online
• Read Curtis Chang’s book Engaging Unbelief: A Captivating Strategy from Augustine and Aquinas
• Read Anne Frank’s The Diary of a Young Girl
• Engage with our course The After Party

Engaging with Prayers of Lamentation:

• Learning to Lament: A Guide to Praying in Our Hardest Moments
• Dare to Hope in God: How to Lament Well

More From David French:

• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Join us for the following The After Party/Good Faith virtual events:

November 4th all-comers election eve noontime prayer

November 6th post-election podcast recording

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Why is truth-telling so hard to do within the church? Host Curtis Chang and renowned therapist and author Dan Allender explore the complex crossroads of theology and psychology, tracing the evolving, sometimes fraught relationship between the Christian church and therapy. With warmth and candor, Dr. Allender shares both his love for and ambivalence toward psychotherapy, reflecting on how it can challenge our understanding of the role trauma plays in the search for God’s truth. Together, they invite listeners to consider how an imaginative rethinking of the "war within you" can open new pathways to authentic worship.

Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode will inspire a continued reimagining of therapy’s place in faith communities.

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October 28th pre-election podcast recording

November 4th all-comers election eve noontime prayer

November 6th post-election podcast recording

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read Calvin’s Institutes online
• Learn more about Christian Smith and Melissa Lundquist Denton’s Moralistic Therapeutic Deism
• Find out about Viktor Frankl’s logotherapy
• Read about Rollo Mae and existential therapy
• Read C.S. Lewis’s "Weight of Glory" sermon online

More From Dan Allender:

• Learn more about Dan’s work at The Allender Center
• Check out Dan Allender’s books

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"What if much of what you’ve been told about Heaven was incorrect?" Host Curtis Chang is joined by Skye Jethani, author and co-host of the Holy Post podcast, for a conversation about the widespread misconceptions of Heaven. Together, they unpack why many of us have been asking the wrong questions about Heaven. For instance, rather than asking “Is Heaven real?" or “Who is going to Heaven?” Christians are called by Jesus to make Heaven more real in the here and now, including in our vocation, family, and even how we care for the Earth. Join them in this shift from a Heaven-focused faith to a Christ-centered practice that brings Heaven and Earth closer together than you might have imagined.

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October 28th pre-election podcast recording

November 4th all-comers election eve noontime prayer

November 6th post-election podcast recording

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read what N.T. Wright believes the New Testament says about Heaven
• Watch The Bible Project video about the overlapping of Heaven and Earth
• Read about the Heresy of Eusebius
• Read Richard Mouw’s essay Heaven: The Logic of Eternal Joy
• Read an excerpt from Andy Crouch’s Culture Making about "culture as the furniture of Heaven"

More From Skye Jethani:

• Check out Skye’s work at The Holy Post
• Subscribe to Skye’s daily devotional With God Daily
• Explore Skye’s books including What If Jesus Was Serious About Heaven?

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Who are the men and women that will be needed to shape tomorrow’s politics towards something better? Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith "founding friend" David French take on the role of political talent scouts, spotlighting five sleeper political figures that we should have on our radar. From "prodigals" and "exiles" to "warriors," they profile the kind of leaders necessary to point America beyond the 2024 election. This insightful conversation is essential for anyone focusing on the long game in today’s political landscape.

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Referenced in this Episode

• Watch Senator James Lankford defend the recent immigration bill
• Read about Governor Spencer Cox’s posture of Healthy Conflict
• Watch Governor Spencer Cox’s political advertisement with his rival
• Read about Lt. Governor Deidre Henderson’s take on election integrity
• Watch Governor Josh Shapiro’s PA rally victim comments
• Explore former Congressman Adam Kinzinger’s Country First movement
• Read the Washington Post op/ed about former Congressman Mike Gallagher
• Read about the bipartisan national security & military leaders supporting Harris in 2024

More From David French:

• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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The world offers many misleading messages about disability. Host Curtis Chang and author Amy Julia Becker challenge these misconceptions, especially around what makes a life "valuable." Drawing from her journey raising a daughter with Down Syndrome, Becker highlights the profound differences between pity, compassion, and a curiosity that honors the intrinsic worth of every person. They discuss how faith communities can more meaningfully welcome and support families of children with Down Syndrome and other disabilities. Becker also offers practical questions to help Jesus followers engage with and better understand the experiences of families walking a path similar to her own.

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read Galation 5:22-26 HERE
• Learn more about Down Syndrome in the United States
• Read about The impact of implicit and explicit bias about disabilities on parent experiences and information provided during prenatal screening and testing

Explore Amy Julia Becker’s work:

• Listen to Reimagining The Good Life podcast
• Read Amy Julia’s blog
• Check out Amy Julia’s website
• Buy & Read Amy Julia’s books (amazon)

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How do we make sense of the world when we know our time is limited? Host Curtis Chang talks about this universal question with Amy Low, whose recent memoir The Brave In Between: Notes from the Last Room chronicles the lessons learned from her now five-year-long journey with a terminal cancer diagnosis. Together, they unpack Amy's powerful reminder that "the worst thing in life is not the last thing," offering hopeful insights into what it means to face suffering well. Their conversation delves into how to care for oneself and loved ones even when the future is uncertain… and how even to laugh amidst the hard things of life.

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read More about Chadwick Boseman and “What to Know About Colon Cancer”
• Frederick Buechner’s book: Telling the Truth: The Gospel as Tragedy, Comedy and Fairy Tale
• Read Frederick Buechner’s thoughts on GRACE

Explore Amy Low’s work:

• Read Amy’s Book: The Brave In-Between: Notes from the Last Room
• Check out Amy’s substack: Postcards From the Mountain
• Learn more about The Emerson Collective

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Are we on the brink of a post-human world? Host Curtis Chang is joined by author and Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch to delve into what it means to remain truly human in an era of growing AI powers. Together, they explore how followers of Jesus can help shape and adopt artificial intelligence to enhance rather than diminish the Imago Dei. They challenge listeners to exert authority over AI, including resisting the false ways that technology makes relationships appear effortless and frictionless, and instead pursue the more difficult but rewarding vision of genuine human community.

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read Rosario Butterfield’s book: The Gospel Comes with a House Key
• Read Ruth Okediji’s ebook: Copyright in a Global Information Economy
• Read Ruth Okediji’s paper: The Limits of International Copyright Exceptions for Developing Countries
• Read Leopold Aschenbrenner’s paper: Situational Awareness, The Decade Ahead

Explore Andy Crouch’s work:

• Check out Andy’s website
• Check out Andy’s work at Praxis
• Read Andy’s book: The Life We're Looking For

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How does God meet us in the spaces and actions that seem insignificant? Host Curtis Chang welcomes Grammy-winning producer Charlie Peacock and his wife, author Andi Ashworth, to explore just that – the profound mystery and importance of small things. The couple cofounded Art House America and explain what blossomed in the old church building they once called home thanks to their investment in a life of hospitality. Among other things, they tell the tale of how a certain Irish houseguest named Bono ignited a movement in their living room that would go on to save millions of lives. Curtis also wades into a topic that few of us consider: the ministry of cooking. You don’t want to miss this Good Faith conversation.

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Referenced in this Episode

• Read Charlie Peacock & Andi Ashworth’s book Why Everything That Doesn't Matter Matters So Much
• Learn more about Art House America
• Visit Andrew Peterson’s Rabbit Room online
• Learn more about the L'Abri community
• Learn more about the U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR)
• Watch Bono's remarks on PEPFAR on its 20th Anniversary

Explore Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth’s work:

• Find Charlie Peacock’s substack HERE
• Listen to Charlie Peacock’s new album Every Kind of Uh-Oh
• Read the collection of Andi Ashworth’s pieces for Comment HERE
• Buy & Read Andi Ashworth’s book Real Love for Real Life: The Art and Work of Caring

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Host Curtis Chang and guest Pete Wehner (columnist at The Atlantic and former speechwriter for George W. Bush) share their personal journeys to their pro-life convictions, while also explaining how their views depart from much of the politics and practices of the current pro-life movement. They examine how this issue has distorted evangelicals, Trump, and the Republican Party. Curtis also reframes the politics of abortion through the Old Testament offices of “prophet, priest, and king,” offering a way to understand how Christians can most helpfully integrate their religious beliefs with their social engagement.

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Join Curtis Chang in person:

• See Curtis Chang and David French at Redeemer Presbyterian Church in NYC
• See Curtis Chang and Tim Alberta at Wheaton College

For a window into the hermeneutical debate over Exodus 21:22-25:

• Read this pro-life analysis of the text from an article in Christianity Today (written in 1973 but still relevant)
• Read this balanced take (also from a pro-life writer) of the problems with “proof-texting” practiced by both sides
• For an even more detailed overview about the interpretive challenges in play with Exodus 21 and other passages, read Mako Nagasawa’s book, Abortion Policy and Christian Social Ethics in the United States.

Referenced in this episode:

• Read Charles Krauthammer’s Washington Post opinion piece from February 15, 1985 "Abortion Debate: Just Words"
• Watch the trailer for Juno, Diablo Cody’s 2007 film about teenage pregnancy
• Pew Research Center What the data says about abortion in the U.S.
• Crisis pregnancy care through Avail NYC and Claris Health

Explore Peter Wehner’s work:

• Read Peter Wehner’s The Atlantic article from August 27, 2024: Trump’s Evangelical Supporters Just Lost Their Best Excuse
• Read more of Peter Wehner’s opinion pieces in The Atlantic

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Host Curtis Chang is joined by Dr. Hahrie Han, a political scientist at Johns Hopkins University and the Director of the SNF Agora Institute, to explore how evangelical churches relate to racial and political issues. Drawing from her research on a multi-ethnic evangelical church in Cincinnati and insights from Redeeming Babel's "The After Party" project, Dr. Han reveals how cross-racial relationships within faith communities can help heal racial division and foster deeper belonging. Listeners will discover why facing questions of race and politics head-on, rather than reducing them to political buzzwords, can transform divisive issues into shared experiences that unite communities.

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Join Curtis Chang in person:

• See Curtis Chang and David French at Redeemer Presbyterian Church in NYC
• See Curtis Chang and Tim Alberta at Wheaton College

Referenced in this episode:

• Read Robert Putnam’s book Bowling Alone (Amazon)
• Learn more about Crossroads Church in Cincinnati
• Learn more about the Undivided Program
• Learn more about Pastor Chuck Mingo
• Listen to Curtis and David’s Good Faith conversation about “white replacement theory” with Chuck Mingo
• Listen to Curtis’s Good Faith conversation about churches who exploit political controversies with Chuck Mingo

Explore Hahrie Han’s work:

• Hahrie’s work at John Hopkins’s P3 Lab
• Read Hahrie Han’s book Undivided
• Explore Hahrie Han’s other books HERE

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Host Curtis Chang and "founding friend" David French dive into the five stories that dominated David's summer. From Ukraine's bold advance into Russia and the failed assassination attempt on Donald Trump to Joe Biden's unexpected exit from the presidential race and a pair of astronauts lost in space, they cover it all. They even offer a moment of awe in honor of Steph Curry's golden moment at the Paris Olympics. The Psalms and Tolkien get obligatory shout outs, too. It's been one wild summer, and the original Good Faith team is here to unpack it all.

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Referenced in this episode by Curtis and David:

• Learn more about Buzz Aldrin's lunar communion (with photos of his handwritten Psalm 8 quote)
• Read Psalm 8 HERE
• Steph Curry gets Team USA over the finish line in gold medal game
• Scholarly paper on religion in Tolkien’s work, including a reference to: "The wind is in the West"
• Read Psalm 133 HERE
• David French writes about Ukraine’s advance into Russia
• Read about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s rejection of a United States’ evacuation offer in 2022
• Learn more about George Washington’s Society of the Cincinnati
• Read about "Workism" and the Pew Research that unpacks it
• Read “The Business of Being Lorne Michaels”
• After the Trump assassination attempt failed, Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service Director, resigns

More From David French:

• Read David French’s opinion pieces HERE
• Follow David French on Threads

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Curtis Chang and worship leader Isaac Wardell are joined by renowned musicians Matt Maher, Sandra McCracken, and Jon Guerra, alongside poet Kate Bluett and Grammy-winning songwriter Dee Wilson. These talented artists are pivotal contributors to The Porter's Gate's worship album for the Redeeming Babel project, The After Party. They share their unique perspectives on how worship music can help navigate the current political challenges faced by American churches of all denominations. The group also offers an inside look at the creative process behind powerful tracks like "The Kingdom of Jesus," "The Lord Will Have His Way," and more.

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Referenced in this episode by Curtis and his guests:

• Read more about Scottish patriot Andrew Fletcher
• Listen to “My Deliverer” by Rich Mullins’ Ragamuffin Band
• Listen to Howard University’s gospel choir perform “Lift Every Voice and Sing”
• Transcript of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s March 17, 1966 speech
• Lost audio from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.’s February 26, 1965 sermon
• Listen to Matt Maher’s song “Sons and Daughters”
• Watch the trailer and clips from Terrence Malick’s A Hidden Life HERE
• Listen to the score from Terrance Malick’s film A Hidden Life HERE
• Read 2 Corinthians 5:11-21 (the ministry of reconciliation) HERE

Learn more about our guests:

• Isaac Wardell & The Porter’s Gate
• The Music of Matt Maher
• The Liturgical Poetry of Kate Bluett
• The Devotional Songwriting of Jon Guerra
• The Work of Sandra McCracken
• The Common Hymnal of Dee Wilson

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Host Curtis Chang welcomes Rev. Summer Joy Gross, author of The Emmanuel Promise, to explore how a broken attachment to God can amplify anxieties stemming from politics, interpersonal relationships, and global events like the crisis in Israel. Rev. Gross, drawing on her expertise as a spiritual director and her study of Attachment Theory, shares intentional spiritual practices to help cultivate a deeper attunement to God in all our emotions. This conversation offers practical steps to move beyond avoidance and frustration, guiding listeners toward greater internal security.

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Summer Joy Gross's book: The Emmanuel Promise - Discovering the Security of a Life Held by God

REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

To Be A Christian: An Anglican Catechism as edited by J.I. Packer

Dallas Willard on Spiritual Formation

Excerpt from Jim Wilder's book Renovated (Dallas Willard's concept of being attached to God)

Sungshim Loppnow and Jim Wilder's book: Joyful Journey: Listening to Immanuel

How to pray St. Ignatius's Examen

Jim Manney's Book: A Simple, Life-Changing Prayer - Discovering the Power of St. Ignatius Loyola's Examen

Grafted Directory of Evangelical Spiritual Directors Association (ESDA)

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Host Curtis Chang sits down with Pastor Caleb Campbell, author of the new book Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Caleb shares his powerful journey from disenfranchised young churchgoer to neo-nazi, and ultimately, his transformation into an evangelical pastor with a desire to reach adherents of Christian Nationalism. Together, Curtis and Caleb explore how our friends and neighbors become entangled in the worship of nationalism and political power and offer practical steps for inviting these individuals into meaningful relationships that foster hope and change.

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REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

Rich Mullins' Song: Sometimes By Step

Galatians 6:1-2 NIV

Tim Keller: Preaching to the Collective Heart (blog post)

Pete Scazzaro's book: Emotionally Healthy Spirituality

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Host Curtis Chang and award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson, the Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University, discuss the decline of deep reading and how this might impact our lives. Hooten Wilson explains the significant benefits that listeners can experience by thoughtfully re-engaging with books as a regular practice. The conversation explores how deep reading can help individuals cultivate contemplation, love their neighbors, practice humility, and other aspects of deep spiritual growth.

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Follow Jessica Hooten Wilson's work

Order Jessica Hooten Wilson's latest book: Flannery O’Connor’s Why Do the Heathen Rage?: A Behind-the-Scenes Look at a Work in Progress

Order Jessica Hooten Wilson's book: Reading for the Love of God How to Read as a Spiritual Practice

REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

The Daily Office Online

Reader, Come Home: The Reading Brain in a Digital World by Maryanne Wolf

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Host Curtis Chang and Pete Wehner, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, engage in a thought-provoking discussion about tackling inner demons amidst America’s current political upheaval. They delve into topics such as the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, President Joe Biden's determination to continue despite pressure to exit the race, and what our reactions to these events reveal about ourselves. The conversation gets personal as they examine the difference between moral reflection and moral equivalency during times of national instability.

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REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

President Lincoln's Lyceum Address

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Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch strike a chord in their exploration of the dynamics of modern Christian worship music. Their conversation covers the ways that average Christians are becoming limited in their singing abilities, the concert-like performance style of worship leaders in our sanctuaries, and the commercial influence of Contemporary Christian Music (CCM). Curtis and Andy contend a musical reformation in the worship lives of believers is needed urgently today, and offer some practical tips on how to get started.

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REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:

Buy Ken Myers book All God's Children Wear Blue Suede Shoes: Christians & Popular Culture (Amazon)

Beautiful Things by Gungor

Job 3 (Job’s First Lament) ESV

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Host Curtis Chang goes back to school and sits down with Geneva College President Dr. Calvin Troup and student Mattigan Burleigh to explore the college's long-standing political coursework, dating back to 1881. They delve into how, in an era fraught with political anxiety, the culture of niceness has eroded an authentic engagement across differences. Listen and learn how to serve your communities by focusing on Jesus as the central norm in our common life.

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In the second part of their extensive conversation, host Curtis Chang and author Tim Alberta discuss how some people in the church use the message of the cross as a weapon to exert political power over others, thus diluting its significance. They explore how many truth-seeking non-believers are put off by what they perceive as the hypocritical political engagement of some evangelicals. Curtis and Tim also hold a question-and-answer session that provides helpful strategies for staying focused on the gospel when Christian political culture distorts the message.

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The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism (Available on Amazon)

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Tim Alberta and Curtis Chang suggest a long-term approach for Christians when it comes to political engagement. They explore how the pursuit of short term political power has led believers away from effectively sharing the Gospel message. Alberta and Chang encourage listeners to consider how a deeper alignment with Jesus can lead to genuine engagement with people and the culture that lasts beyond immediate but temporary gains.

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The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism (Available on Amazon)

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Host Curtis Chang and "founding friend" David French sit down for a deep dive into ways people are detecting threats in today's polarized landscape. They explore how both conservatives and progressives (including Christians of both stripes) often distort potential dangers, creating a misleading perception of reality and double standards. They also provide practical strategies for repairing our dysfunctional threat detectors.

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Host Curtis Chang engages in an enlightening discussion with renowned New Testament scholar, pastor, and author N.T. Wright. They delve deeply into the concept of the "principalities and powers" in the writings of the Apostle Paul, examining the invisible - but powerful - spiritual realities behind our institutions, politics, and culture. Listen and discover how God meant for us to relate to these “powers” in the light of the Gospel.

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Host Curtis Chang invites Dr. Mark Turman, Executive Director of Denison Forum and Vice President of Denison Ministries, to join him in examining the unique challenges faced by pastors in the American evangelical tradition. Both former pastors themselves, Curtis and Mark unpack the actual and perceived struggles that have made so many pastors contemplate leaving their roles. They also champion a missional mindset that can change the way pastors do gospel work and practical advice for congregants who want to support their spiritual leaders.

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis & Michael Graham

Barna Group Research: 7-Year Trends - Pastors Feel More Loneliness & Less Support

Barna Group Research: Pastors’ Credibility Is in Question—Even Among Pastors

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Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, a national security expert who served both the George W. Bush and Donald Trump administrations. Together, they explore the alarming rise of radicalization among everyday citizens, including within evangelical communities, and its implications for both the Christian church and democracy. Neumann shares her insights on the roots of this growing extremism and what we can do to address and mitigate these threats.

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Host Curtis Chang and Washington University professor of law & religion John Inazu explore principles that can teach us to cultivate greater empathy and respect for the differences we encounter in our daily lives. If you feel like you always have to be right, their conversation offers practical insights and stories that reveal how legal frameworks and Christian principles can inspire more compassionate interactions in a world brimming with diverse thoughts.

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Discover the power of https://pastors.ai/

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Curtis Chang and David French delve into the multifaceted impact of youth sports culture on both parents and children. They explore how it demands our time, influences our social status, can strain our finances, and even affects our spiritual well-being. Listen as they uncover the hidden costs of turning what used to be play into a semi-professional lifestyle and discuss practical steps we can take to reclaim balance and well-being for our families.

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Host Curtis Chang engages in a profound and moving conversation with distinguished professor, pastor, and champion of Christian healthcare, John Swinton. Together, they delve into the theology of dementia care, exploring the spiritual dimensions of how God treasures all of His created beings, regardless of their cognitive abilities. Professor Swinton sheds light on the sacred act of caring for those afflicted with dementia and points listeners to the profound truth that God remembers His people, even when their remembrances of this life and His love wane.

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Buy Profesor Swintons Books

Read Professor Swinton’s Essays

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Host Curtis Chang explores the intersection of faith, music, and biblical harmony with acclaimed singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken in a conversation focusing on the craft of scripture-soaked songwriting. While discussing the influences that have shaped Sandra’s art, they unravel the importance of music in our daily lives and worship routines. The pair also share insights from a recent collaboration between the Porter’s Gate and Redeeming Babel that produced a new batch of songs that fosters unity amidst today's political divisions.

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Music mentioned in the episode:

Psalms (album) by Sandra McCracken

We Will Feast In The House of Zion by Sandra McCracken

Steadfast by Sandra McCracken

Trinity Song by Sandra McCracken

Fool's Gold by Sandra McCracken

Song For Rachel by Sandra McCracken

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We can't get enough of our friend Nancy French! Her debut memoir, “Ghosted: An American Story,” is available now. That's why we decided to revisit host Curtis Chang's journey into the realm of storytelling with Nancy as his guide. By embracing the narratives of our lives and recognizing the divine Author behind our individual stories, the duo urges listeners to explore family histories and origin tales to gain deeper insight into their journeys. Trust us, if you haven't listened to this episode yet, you're missing out on a classic!

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Free online journaling: https://penzu.com/

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Host Curtis Chang sits down for a gripping conversation with author and frequent Good Faith guest Nancy French to discuss her compelling new memoir "Ghosted: An American Story." Nancy opens up about wrestling with dark family and church secrets, shedding light on the complexities of transracial adoption and the challenges of losing one's community. She explores the power of being truly known and finding resilience in an unexpected romance that would also show her the enduring hope found in the cross of Jesus.

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RESOURCES:

Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment

Dr. Diane Langberg's books to better train abuse counselors

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From Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman to Johann Sebastian Bach, host Curtis Chang engages in a captivating conversation with Good Faith contributor Andy Crouch about the profound significance of music in our everyday existence. Through insightful anecdotes and reflections, they explore how to actively listen to music and let it transcend mere entertainment to become a powerful conduit for meaning, expression, and even spiritual meditation. Join them as they harmonize on the transformative role of music and its timeless resonance in the human experience.

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Songs For The After Party: An Evening with the Porter's Gate

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MUSIC REFERENCED:

Olivier Messiaen: Quartet for the End of Time V: Praise to the Eternity of Jesus

Johann Sebastian Bach: The St Matthew Passion

Dianne Reeves & The Berlin Philharmonic (feat. Martin Stegner on Viola): “A Foggy Day”

Luke Combs & Tracy Chapman: "Fast Car" at the 2024 Grammys

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Host Curtis Chang sits down with Kaitlyn Schiess, author of the thought-provoking book, "The Bible and The Ballot." Delving into the intersection of faith and politics, this conversation offers a compelling analysis of how Christians can use or abuse scripture to influence civic engagement and public policy. Drawing from her extensive research and personal experiences, Schiess discusses how Christian traditions can interpret scripture and apply its teachings more faithfully to contemporary political engagement.

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Songs For The After Party: An Evening with the Porter's Gate

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Host Curtis Chang and “founding friend” David French engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the relationship between Democrats and Republican Evangelicals. With a nuanced exploration into topics like the “God Gap,” they shed light on why Democrats frequently fail to grasp the perspectives and values of Evangelicals. Also in this episode, David and Curtis address the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas and explain whether or not their views on the conflict have changed amidst the widening devastation.

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Check out David’s work at https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-french

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In this thought-provoking episode, public theologian and The After Party partner Russell Moore explores the need for pastors to equip themselves and their congregations for the distinctive challenges of a presidential election featuring repeat candidates and all new potential for national drama. Russell and Curtis also offer valuable insights into the role of faith communities in fostering both political discernment and public witness as they answer questions from pastors and church leaders.

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Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America (available on Amazon)

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We tend to think of spiritual disciplines as taking us out of the world: privatized quiet times, sequestered retreats, individual Bible reading, and such. We especially disconnect spiritual disciplines from the very public world of politics. Michael Wear joins Curtis to challenge this disconnection. Together they explore how spiritual disciplines can form us for healthier politics, and also how politics can form our spiritual lives.

The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life (by Michael Wear)

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The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life In God (by Dallas Willard)

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In this first episode in a series on faith and political engagement, we delve into the intersection of anxiety and politics, as Christians navigate the mounting tension of the 2024 election cycle. In an interview conducted by DT Slouffman, Redeeming Babel’s Director of Content, Curtis shares insightful perspectives on how faith can helpfully form our emotional, relational, and church life. If you’re wondering how to navigate the coming months with both hope and humility, this episode is for you!

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Our outer world – our politics, our society, our organizations, even our local community and families – can be enormously complex and even chaotic at times. How do we make sense of all that happens around us? Author and therapist Alison Cook joins Curtis to explore a key strategy: exploring our inner world. They discuss why grasping our inner complexity is critical to properly understanding our external world. This rich discussion covers the theological reasons for this process, as well as many practical steps on how to get started in this inner journey.

We're having a party and we'd love for our Good Faith listeners to come! We'll be joined by good friends David French and Russell Moore for a live day-long version of our After Party course as we chart a path towards better Christian politics. Learn more & buy tickets here! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-after-party-live-tickets-836892757767?aff=GoodFaithPod

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Free guided meditation (+ 2 other IFS themed resources)

Article: 7 Ways to Increase Your Support Network and Why It Matters

Podcast Episode: Episode 71: All About Therapy—Do I Need a Therapist, How Do I Find One, and What Type of Therapy Works Best?

New book: I Shouldn't Feel This Way

Boundaries for Your Soul podcast series

Curtis Chang on The Best of You Podcast

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40% of all Americans will receive a diagnosis of cancer in their lifetime and practically every adult will know someone who already has. How do we talk about this reality? Nancy French, who recently was diagnosed with an aggressive type of breast cancer, joins Curtis to talk about how we talk. In a wide ranging, vulnerable, and candid conversation, Nancy shares about topics like why she doesn’t personally find the “fight cancer” language helpful (even if it might be helpful for others); why people are uncomfortable talking about serious illness; how cancer can be both a horrible and beautiful experience at the same time; and more gems.

The After Party Book - Available for Pre-order Now!

The After Party Conference LIVE! on 4/19/24 in Washington DC - Early Bird Registration Here

Illness as Metaphor by Susan Sontag

Why “war on cancer” metaphors may actually harm health (USC Study)

The Anxiety Opportunity by Curtis Chang

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Repeated studies show that the current media landscape is worsening polarization and weakening our ability to grasp truth. How do we escape getting trapped in our own “bespoke realities?” This Good Faith episode draws on a recent webinar led by Curtis and David French where they address how Christians can adopt better information habits.

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“Welcome to our new ‘Bespoke Realities” by David French (in the New York Times)

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How are Christians supposed to think, feel, and act as they walk by a homeless person? As they drive through an impoverished neighborhood and pass by its residents? Our reactions will be strongly influenced by how we answer the question, “Why? Why are these people poor?” To wrestle with this question, Curtis is joined by the leading scholar on American poverty today, Matthew Desmond, author of Poverty, by America. Together, they explore why most Americans are missing the full answer – and the special responsibility of Christians to live out the Biblical answer.

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Poverty, by America by Matthew Desmond

Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City by Matthew Desmond

End Poverty USA

What does the Bible say about poverty? (from World Vision)

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The dominant narrative is that Western culture is headed for ever greater levels of atheism, agnosticism, or at least departure from belief in the Christian God. Andy Crouch returns from his sabbatical to question this narrative. He points out that the dominant secular worldview of the West - deterministic, rationalistic, and reductionist - is starting to run on empty. Can this lead to a greater hunger for the Christian God? Curtis and Andy examine what Christians would need to do to meet this hunger, including reexamining our own understanding of the Gospel itself.

The Matter With Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World by Ian McGilchrist

At the Origins of Modern Atheism by Michael J. Buckley

The One, the Three, and the Many: God, Creation, and the Culture of Modernity by Colin Gunton

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The ongoing war in Gaza has sent out reverberations in the political, military, and economic spheres. But what about the moral sphere? Curtis is joined by “founding friend” David French to examine the moral aftershocks of Gaza in two disparate spheres: the moral practice of war and the moral practice of free speech at universities. We examine why Christians should care about both spheres, and also uncover the surprising theological similarities between them.

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“How Gaza is affecting American Jews and Christians” - a Good Faith episode with Rabbi Michael Holzman and David French

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AI feels like a tornado that has hit society: unpredictable, powerful, and out of our control. How do we as Christians respond to this force in the world? Curtis is joined by two friends who live and work at the intersection of AI and spiritual reflection: James Cham of Bloomberg Beta and John Kim of the Karamaan Group. Together, the three friends explore how Christians might flip the question from “Where is AI taking us spiritually?” to “Where should Christians take AI?”

Pose your questions to the Good Faith chatbot (BETA)

An AI primer by John Kim (on Medium)

Is AI a religion? (conversation on Bloomberg)

AI: Grappling with a new kind of intelligence (YouTube video from the World Science Festival)

Data, Truth, and AI (a BioLogos podcast)

The Spirituality of Chat GPT (Good Faith episode with Andy Crouch)

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American evangelicalism’s pull towards the far right is felt by anyone that comes into contact with the movement. But how did this happen? Who did the pulling? What were the motivations? What were the pre-conditions that made evangelicals so susceptible? With his latest book, The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism, Tim Alberta has written the definitive book that answers these questions. He and Curtis discuss the key types of individuals, the organizations, the strategies, and especially the hidden incentive structures that lie beneath the headlines.

The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta (Harper)

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This episode drops on the three year anniversary of the Capitol insurrection of January 6 2021. The event revealed the dangerous nature of Trumpism and political violence. We should be worried about what happened, even today. But the event also presented an opportunity: it contained an invitation from God for all of us, one that applies to our role in our own corner of the world, even today. In this Good Faith Classic (from also two years ago exactly), Curtis and “founding friend” David French unpack this invitation for everyone.

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“Founding friend” David French returns to wrap up 2023 (we’re taking a break for a few weeks). He and Curtis look back at the year through the lens of two core spiritual values of The After Party: Humility and Hope. We discuss what happened in 2023 that grew our humility, reminding us of the need to recognize complexity, to grow, and to learn. We also talked up the signs of hope from the year, including many that are hidden or counter-intuitive.

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Good Faith episode on the Asbury revival (6/17/2023)

‘The Bear’ and the need for a place to belong by David French (NYT 7/16/2023)

The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism by Tim Alberta

Losing our religion: An altar call for Evangelical America by Russell Moore

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Climate change is a major long term threat to our world. Yet, we find very few evangelical Christians voices or mass engagement on this issue. Why this disturbing gap? To explore this question, Curtis is joined by Bruce Huber who teaches about environmental law as Professor of Law at the University of Notre Dame. Together, they explore the deep reasons why many Christians struggle even to make proper sense of climate change.

Laudato Si' -- Pope Francis's 2015 encyclical on "Care for our Common Home"

The website of Jonathan Haidt -- see especially "The Righteous Mind"

The website of the IPCC -- the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which acts as a sponsor of and clearinghouse for climate research

An accessible book about carbon taxation, "The Case for a Carbon Tax," by Prof. Shi-Ling Hsu of Florida State University

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The wave of immigrants and refugees at the border has filled the news, and will most likely influence the next presidential elections. But what’s really happening there? And how should American Christians make sense of this issue? In the second of two episodes on this topic, Curtis is joined by someone with a unique perspective, Michael Debruhl. Michael is a former agent and executive in the Border Patrol who felt disturbed at the widespread misconceptions on the topic. Upon leaving the agency, he started volunteering at the Sacred Heart Shelter, one of the main church based programs receiving migrants at the border.

Helpful resources on immigration and the border

Accurate information from The National Immigration Forum (a non-partisan effort at sensible and compassionate reform of our national approach to immigration)

What’s happening at the U.S.-Mexico border in 7 charts from The Pew Research Center

What’s behind the influx of migrants crossing the U.S. southern border? from PBS NewsHour

Public database from the US Customs and Border Protection (the main federal agency overseeing the border)

DONATE to the Sacred Heart Shelter (Casa del Sagrado Corazón) - the shelter directed by guest Michael Debruhl

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The wave of immigrants and refugees at the border has filled the news, and will most likely influence the next presidential elections. But what’s really happening there? And how should American Christians make sense of this issue? In the first of two episodes on this topic, Curtis is joined by Bri Stensrud, Director of Women of Welcome, a ministry that helps American evangelical women understand what’s happening at the border in light of Scripture and current reality. They talk about why Christians should care about the border, the common misconceptions in play, and how opening our minds and hearts on this topic changes us.

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• Order Bri's latest book: Start with Welcome
• Learn more about Women of Welcome
• Free resources & Bible studies from Women of Welcome
• Join the Women of Welcome community online: FB & IG
• Watch the Who is Welcome Here documentary
• More on World Relief
• More on National Immigration Forum
• Follow Bri online

On the forced separation policy:

• The Atlantic on “the secret history”
• Immigration Forum’s analysis
• Christianity Today’s coverage
• The failure of “zero tolerance” policy

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We’re living in a cultural moment where so many people feel unseen and unheard. What if the answer is not some big government or nonprofit program, but rather something as intimate as this: a meaningful conversation. David Brooks joins the podcast to talk about his new book, “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen.” He and Curtis discuss the art of connecting with another person, and why our society so deeply needs to revive the skills involved.

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How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen by David Brooks

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The Gaza crisis has sent out shock waves that extend to America. In this podcast, we explore how different communities and institutions in the US are responding. Rabbi Michael Holzman and David French join Curtis to examine what is happening for Jewish American communities, college campuses, the progressive movement, American evangelicals, and wider public support for Israel.

“What it would mean to treat Hamas like ISIS” by David French (NYT)

“The laws of campus culture wars” by David French (NYT)

“The Left abandoned me” by Gal Beckerman (The Atlantic)

“The Decolonization Narrative Is Dangerous and False” by Simon Sebag Montefiore (The Atlantic)

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American youth who grew up in Christian families are leaving the church at a massive pace. Curtis talks with Kara Powell, executive director of The Fuller Youth Institute, about the complex reasons for this trend - and what can be done. They discuss why any understanding of the causes – and therefore the necessary response – must include parents and churches doing the hard work of self-examination and self-transformation.

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Kara’s Ten x 10 Initiative that seeks to combine efforts to reach the next generation

For resources on preventing and responding to suspected abuse in youth ministry, see GRACE (Godly Responses to Abuse in Christian Environments).

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Some churches seek to exploit political controversy for self-serving ends. But many more churches instinctively avoid controversy, and steer away from topics that may reveal differences. In this episode, Curtis is joined by Chuck Mingo to explore a different route: treating this upcoming election season as an opportunity for spiritual growth. They make the case that the same spiritual muscles that get built in politics apply also to marriages, parenting, employment and other areas of discipleship. Curtis and Chuck also talk about the practicalities involved: what should happen on Sunday morning (and what shouldn’t); the top rookie mistakes made when first trying to engage in politics; how the posture of the “wounded healer” is necessary for pastors; and much more.

Find out more about the Undivided course and ministry here.

Pre-order Chuck’s book (written with Troy Jackson), Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice

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In the diagnosis of the epidemic of anxiety sweeping through society, the examination has tended to focus on individual risk factors or macro-social trends (like social media and smartphone adoption among teens). But this misses something going on at the intermediary level between individuals and mass society: the state of the institutions that shape so much of our daily life. Curtis is joined by renowned scholar Yuval Levin in exploring the concept of “the anxious institution.” They make the case that institutions both externally cause and internally experience anxiety in fascinating and important ways.

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In a wide ranging conversation, founding friend David French takes over the reins for Curtis Chang and discusses the new book, The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge. David and coauthor Graham discuss all the reasons for “the great dechurching” with a particular emphasis on the more surprising results, as well as the difficulty reversing the decline in church attendance.

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The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge

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It sure looks like Trump isn’t going away. Many of us around the Good Faith campfire oppose him deeply. But we have people in our lives – sometimes in fractured relationships – who are going to support Trump once again. How do we relate to those people – those who are also parents, relatives, friends, co-workers, and neighbors? To wrestle with this complicated question, Curtis is joined by Pete Wehner, Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum and contributor to the New York Times and the Atlantic.

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Pete Wehner’s Atlantic article on the psychology of the Trump voter

Check out resources to equip depolarizing conversations at Braver Angels

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In this Good Faith Classic episode, Curtis and David talk with Meghan Sullivan, philosopher, teacher, and creator of the most popular class at the University of Notre Dame, “God and the Good Life.” As many of us send our kids off to college (or head off to college ourselves), Meghan helps us appreciate the role of education–and of philosophy in particular–in helping students take on the big questions of life.

Show Notes:

–The Good Life Method by Meghan Sullivan and Paul Blaschko

–God and the Good Life (Notre Dame course)

–What is Philosophy?: Crash Course Philosophy #1

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Many Christians are tempted to just avoid the Book of Revelation. It can seem confusing and hard to read. Yet this avoidance can leave us vulnerable to the misuses of this part of Scripture, especially in making sense of our world. Here to help us is distinguished Biblical scholar, Tremper Longman III. Join us as we dive into the helpful - and unhelpful - ways to read the final culminating book of the Bible.

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Revelation Through Old Testament Eyes by Tremper Longman III

Is the COVID vaccine the “mark of the beast?” by Curtis Chang

Bright Hope for Tomorrow: How Anticipating Jesus’ Return Gives Strength for Today by Chris Davis

Revelation for Everyone (The New Testament for Everyone) by N.T. Wright

Surprised by Hope: Rethinking Heaven, the Resurrection, and the Mission of the Church by N.T. Wright

Revelation (Catholic Commentary on Sacred Scripture) by Peter S. Williamson

All Things New: Revelation as Canonical Capstone by Brian J. Tabb

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Should your investment portfolio as a follower of Jesus look any different from everyone else’s? Do our Biblical values have implications for our 401K? Robin John and Finny Kuruvilla founded Eventide Investments because they believe the answer is a resounding, “Yes!” They join Curtis to explore how we as Christians can pursue a kind of financial investing that “makes the world rejoice.”

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The article the guests cited on the connections between pornography and the sex slave trade can be found here. Their article on how common mutual funds are complicit in fostering childhood smoking can be found here.

Also, read about the work of the Justice Defense Fund in exposing how publicly traded companies - and investors in those companies - profit from pornography and sex abuse.

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What is happening inside us when we ourselves suffer or those around us are suffering? What is happening in our brain? In our soul? Curtis is joined by “the other Curt” - Dr. Curt Thompson - to talk about his new book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope. Their conversation explores questions such as: What is the connection between our desire for beauty and our vulnerability to suffering? Why do we avoid others when we ourselves are suffering? Why do the sufferings of others make us so uncomfortable? Most of all, the they probe for the invitation of God amidst suffering.

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The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope by Dr. Curt Thompson

Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland

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“Founding friend” David French returns to address with Curtis the visceral question in many hearts and minds, “When will things return to normal?” They explore all the questions behind the question, such as “What exactly is ‘normal?” Does it differ for different people? What picture of the past undergirds my longing?” They compare this political and social moment with past eras in American history and church history. Most importantly, they ask, “Is this the right question that God would have us ask - or is there a better question to pose in this particular moment?”

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The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism by Matthew Continetti

“Three Generations Under One Roof” by David French in NYT

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Why do we as a society keep building more and more housing for people who already have the most options, all the while we are forcing people who most need housing to scramble amidst shortage? How do we not just understand what is happening, but also make something better? Jimmy Wright and Michael Hall were motivated by their Christian faith to do just that via their business Launch Capital. Listen in to get inspired by their creative and hopeful work.

RSVP here for the Washington DC live Good Faith recording on 9/5/23: Curtis will talk with AEI’s Yuval Levin on Institutions and Anxiety. The event will be held in the AEI Auditorium at 1789 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20036

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Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City and Poverty, by America (both by Matthew Desmond)

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Bob Fu was a student leader during the Tiananmen Square demonstrations in 1989. He later became a “double agent,” meaning he taught Communist Party officials during the day and operated illegal house churches at night.

After he and his wife were imprisoned for “illegal evangelism,” they eventually fled to the United States as religious refugees. Since then, Bob has helped rescue persecuted Christians around the world and has earned the moniker of “the operator of the Chinese Underground Railroad.”

On this week’s Good Faith podcast, guest host Nancy French interviews Bob who explains China’s human rights violations, the importance of religious freedom and rule of law, and how the Western church can pray for their persecuted brothers and sisters in China.

SHOW NOTES:

RSVP here for the Washington DC live Good Faith recording on 9/5/23: Curtis will talk with AEI’s Yuval Levin on Institutions and Anxiety. The event will be held in the AEI Auditorium at 1789 Massachusetts Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20036

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Notes on the ministry of Bob Fu

“The Chinese Communist Party is rewriting the Bible: Gospel according to Chairman Xi has Jesus turn killer instead of forgiving sin,” by Mike Gallagher, FoxNews.

Donald Trump praises Xi to Tucker Carlson

God's Double Agent: The True Story of a Chinese Christian's Fight for Freedom by Bob Fu, collaborator Nancy French

The Politics of Inclusive Pluralism: A Proposed Foundation for Religious Freedom in a Post-Communist, Democratic China by Bob Fu

Freedom to Pray – How Good Faith listeners can pray more effectively for their brothers and sisters in China.

ChinaAid.org – ChinaAid exposes human rights abuses and promotes truth, justice and freedom by advocating for religious freedom and the rule of law in China. ChinaAid continues to endeavor for the immediate release of prisoners of conscience, equip human rights defenders and religious and community leaders with religious freedom and rule of law training, rescue and resettle persecuted leaders and their families, encourage families of prisoners of conscience by providing financial assistance, and exposing abuse by featuring unique stories of persecution and injustice on ChinaAid’s website and through social media.

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Our good friend and partner in The After Party project, Russell Moore, joins us to talk about his new book, “Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America.” Curtis and Russell talk about why “mapping” our loss is critical for those who currently feel culturally, politically, or spiritually homeless. We explore two kinds of maps - the “treasure map” and the “minefield map” - and why Christians need both.

“Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America” by Russell Moore

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One cannot make sense of the deformation of the current conservative movement without understanding immigration. And one cannot grasp the nature of immigration without understanding anxiety. Like most political issues today, the topic of immigration is bathed in anxiety - for everyone on all sides. Curtis draws these connections, with the ultimate aim to show that Christians can uniquely contribute to the conversation about immigration because we have uniquely good news about anxiety. This episode draws from Curtis’ talk at a convening of the National Immigration Forum in Ohio that included local pastors and civic leaders.
January 6 Was Practice, The Atlantic, January 2022 by Barton Gellman Pew Research Center on Immigration and Politics
Immigration and far-right voting : New evidence (from Europe) from the Center for Economic Policy Research (CEPR)

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For this episode, we rerun David and Curtis tackling the topic of Christian nationalism. What is it exactly? How does it relate to a genuine Christian understanding of how faith should relate to a nation? And how does it relate to our Founders’ intentions? Curtis and David also explore the nature of healthy patriotism and how to love your national home, warts and all.

• National Immigration Forum Ohio Conference: "From Anxious People to Hopeful People." Tuesday, July 25 from 10am-4pm at Vineyard Church (6000 Cooper Rd, Westerville, OH). It is free to attend and lunch is included. You can register for the National Immigration Forum event here.

• The After Party Informational Pastors' Lunch. Wednesday, July 26 from 12:00pm-1:30pm in Independence, OH. Email pilot@redeemingbabel.org for further details and the link to register.

-Thomas Kidd: “Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism”

-Deseret News: “What the latest data tells us about Christian nationalism”

-French Press: “Discerning the Difference Between Christian Nationalism and Christian Patriotism”

-French Press: “The Seeds of Political Violence Are Being Sown in Church”

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Shiny Happy People, a new docuseries documenting the effects of the teachings of Bill Gothard on the Duggars, had the biggest debut of any documentary series ever produced by Amazon. In this episode of the Good Faith podcast, guest host Nancy French and “founding friend” David French discuss this popular series, the legacy of Bill Gothard, purity culture, and the true hope for those affected by this anti-Biblical ideology.

SHOW NOTES:

Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime

‘Shiny Happy People,’ Fundamentalism and the Toxic Quest for Certainty by David French, New York Times; June 13, 2023. ‘They Aren’t Who You Think They Are:’ The inside story of how Kanakuk—one of America’s largest Christian camps—enabled horrific abuse by David French and Nancy French, The Dispatch; Mar 28, 2021

‘It was just a thing at Kanakuk’: Campers and staff say nudity was part of camp cultureBy Nancy French, Springfield News Leader, May 26, 2022

Survivors, ex-employees say Kanakuk Christian camp 'ministered' to its sexual predators, by Nancy French, USA Today, May 26, 2022

Nancy French’s Tweet Thread on Kanakuk Ties to Bill Gothard

Joe White Says Pete Newman’s Wife Should’ve Been His First Layer of Accountability [Deposition Video]

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We’ve witnessed story after story about the abuse of power practiced by Christians and Christian institutions. Does that mean that, to quote Lord Acton, that “power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely?” How should followers of Jesus relate to the possibility of wielding power? Cherie Harder, the President of The Trinity Forum, is ideally suited to address these questions. She’s spent a lifetime in the corridors of power and shares a wealth of theological and practical wisdom on this important topic.

The Trinity Forum

For a helpful theological examination about power, check out Andy Crouch’s Playing God: Redeeming the Gift of Power.

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How can Christian respond to the epidemic of gun violence sweeping our country? Michael Allen and David Dillon join us to share about their inspiring work with Together Chicago. They are an unlikely pair in a racially divided city torn by violence: Michael is a former black pastor and David is a white business executive. Starting with their own friendship, Michael and David have led an innovative and inspiring campaign to counter the evil of gun violence with collaboration and hope.

• Find out more about Together Chicago
• The Unseen Realm by Micahel S. Hesier (recommended by Michael Allen)
• The Clapham Sect: How Wilberforce's Circle Transformed Britain by Stephen Tomkins (recommended by David Dillon)
• Evil and the Cross by Henri Blocher (recommended by Curtis Chang on why we ultimately are not called to “make sense” of evil, but rather to combat it).
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This week, Curtis kicks off a two parter on the tough subject of guns in America. Part 1 is a Good Faith Classic where Curtis and David explored the tensions between gun culture and gun control in our hyper-polarized environment. They help us take a step back to think through the “how” of approaching such a complex issue versus just the “what” of our preferred policy outcome. Stay tuned for next week’s Part 2 episode where Good Faith explores what a Christian response to gun violence could look like.

Show Notes:

• Rand Corporation - Gun Policy in America
• Rand Corporation - How Gun Policies Affect Mass Shootings
• Malcolm Gladwell (New Yorker) - Thresholds of Violence: How school shootings catch on
• French Press - Pass and Enforce Red Flag Laws. Now.
• David French (The Atlantic) - What Critics Don’t Understand About Gun Culture

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The Asbury revival of early 2023 garnered a great deal of interest from Christians hungering for signs of hope. What’s happening there now? In the first part, Curtis talks with the President of Asbury University, Kevin Brown, to learn more about the experience itself and how the institution has sought to steward this outpouring of the Holy Spirit. In the second part, “founding friend” David French joins Curtis to reflect more deeply on how God works through revivals, drawing on Asbury, US history, and especially their shared experience of revival at Harvard in the 1990’s.

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We examine the phenomena of spiritual abuse with the help of Dan Koch, researcher, therapist, and host of the podcast, You Have Permission. Both Curtis and Dan share how their own lives have been affected by spiritual abuse, and then together address questions such as, “Why can it be difficult to spot? What kind of impact does it leave? What makes spiritual abuse distinct from other kinds of abuse?” The conversation connects important theological insights - including the nature of institutional sin and redemption - with practical advice for victims, their loved ones, and current leaders of Christian organizations.

Dan Koch’s Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale Clinical Screener

Dan’s You Have Permission Podcast

Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse: Creating Healthy Christian Cultures by Dr. Lisa Oakley

Further resources on spiritual abuse from The Allender Center at the Seattle School

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Longtime friend Andy Crouch joins Curtis to talk about what it means to truly rest the way God intended us to do so. Why is rest so important to creativity? What is the difference between rest and leisure? Is binge watching Netflix actually restful? What are other key mistakes we make in approaching this vital topic? The conversation is Good Faith at its best, combining Biblical theology, cultural analysis, and practical living.

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Learn more about how our Christian faith makes sense of life and health in the MedTech world at “The Christian Stake in Bioethics Revisited” - a conference by the Center for Bioethics & Human Dignity. The conference runs from June 22-24 at the Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in suburban Chicago. You can attend via in person, online live, or on-demand recording.

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David returns from his recent trip to Kyiv to provide an eyewitness account of the war, including what it is like to survive the terror of a hypersonic missile attack by the Russians. He and Curtis discuss the physical, emotional, and spiritual toll of the war on the Ukrainian people. They explore what lessons we all should take from this ongoing, world changing event.

Republic of Suffering: Death and the American Civil War by Drew Gilpin Faust

Human Rights Watch report on Russian war crimes

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Curtis Chang, the regular host of the Good Faith podcast, takes a turn in the “guest seat” in this special episode in which Nancy French interviews him about his new book, The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self. Curtis, who has suffered from anxiety to the point of losing his job as a senior pastor, offers up hard-earned wisdom that could transform one’s view on parenting, relationships, and even politics. Curtis also talks about the way the church gets anxiety wrong, how Jesus dealt with anxious people, and how grieving is a necessary component of effectively walking through loss.

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It’s the 75th Good Faith episode and we’re celebrating our “diamond” podcast by running back one of our first episodes. First released in November 2021, this episode is a “classic” (in our minds) because we define terms around several key questions that have recurred on Good Faith: “What is an ‘evangelical?’ Is it a set of religious beliefs, a set of cultural beliefs, or a set of political beliefs? How does evangelicalism compare with fundamentalism?” Is “evangelical” a term worth salvaging for Christians?”

Show Notes:

• The French Press: “Did Donald Trump Make the Church Great Again?”

• Pew Research Center: “More White Americans adopted than shed evangelical label during Trump presidency, especially his supporters”

• National Association of Evangelicals: “What is an Evangelical?” (including the Bebbington Quadrilateral)
• Barna: “Survey Explores Who Qualifies As an Evangelical” (including the 9-point Evangelical)
• Ryan Burge: “For White Evangelical Republicans, Approval of Trump is About Immigration more than Abortion”
• Ryan Burge: “Why ‘Evangelical’ is becoming another word for ‘Republican’”
• The French Press: “The American Crisis of Selective Empathy”

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Jon Ward, senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, joins Curtis to talk about his process of deconstructing - and reconstructing - his life as a follower of Jesus. Jon draws on his recently released book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation, to dissect the spiritual, social, political, and emotional dimensions of his years growing up as an insider in the evangelical world. Jon also provides a fascinating account of why his life as a journalist has been so crucial to his faith. Curtis offers the Biblical basis for why deconstruction - properly understood - is necessary for every generation of believers.

Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation by Jon Ward

Forward Party (a new political party focused on local solutions)

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“Founding friend” David French returns to tackle the tough question that every Republican of good faith should be asking. They explain why this particular question of “Should I stay or should I go?” is highly relevant for everyone, regardless of political affiliation. The conversation explores the ways that political calculations inescapably are spiritual in nature, and the two have a fun time unpacking this reality via the “pirate ship” metaphor. Listeners will especially be helped by how David and Curtis explain the three main options - Leave, Stand, or Hide - facing anyone who feels caught in a deeply dysfunctional institution.

For those who want to connect with other “Leavers,” share your thoughts with others on the Good Faith “lifeboat” in the comments section for this episode (you only need to become a member by subscribing here - it’s free).

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For those interested in the mindset of “Hiders, read Anne Applebaum’s excellent analysis of the psychological rationalization practiced within the GOP (The Atlantic).

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Curtis is joined by the world’s leading expert on generational distinctions, Dr. Jean Twenge. They discuss the five major generations shaping our society, with a special focus on Gen Z. The conversation provides insight and practical help for parents, managers, and anyone else interacting across generational lines. Listen especially for Jean’s top advice for parents on how to keep smartphones from destroying your child’s mental health.

Generations: The Real Differences Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents—and What They Mean for America's Future by Jean Twenge

Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation? (The Atlantic)

After Babel (Jonathan Haidt’s Substack that is examining the impact of smartphone on the mental health of Gen Z)

How Low Can America’s Birth Rate Go Before It’s A Problem? (from FiveThirtyEight)

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Curtis tackles this epoch defining question with Comment Editor in Chief, Anne Snyder Brooks. Together they explore the distinctive vision Christians have to offer a world beset by dehumanizing forces. This wide ranging exploration includes both the big ideas and stakes involved in this question, as well as practical steps each one of us can take to embody (in the words of Irenaeus) “the glory of God in a human being fully alive.”

Resources mentioned by Anne:

• Comment magazine’s discussion of Christian humanism via an interview between David Brooks and Luke Bretherton (a colleague of Curtis at Duke Divinity School).
• The Revolt Against Humanity: Imagining a Future Without Us by Adam Kirsch
• The Congregation in a Secular Age: Keeping Sacred Time against the Speed of Modern Life by Andrew Root.

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Curtis talks with the “elder statesman” of Christian counseling, Dan Allender, about how therapy has influenced the American church - in much needed and also problematic ways. They explore how therapy has provided an important place for Christians to bring to Jesus the real, hard, and sometimes traumatic realities of life - often in ways that the church could not. They also examine how “moralistic therapeutic deism” increasingly describes the actual civil religion of Americans.

For examples of great books by Dan and his lifelong friend, Tremper Longman III, consider these two classics: Bold Love and The Cry of the Soul: How Our Emotions Reveal Our Deepest Questions About God.

For the original description of “moralistic therapeutic deism” as the religion of American youth, check out Soul Searching: The Religious and Spiritual Lives of American Teenagers by Christian Smith and Melina Lundquist Denton.

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Andy Crouch returns to the podcast to question the widespread preoccupation with “making an impact.” Andy and Curtis talk about the limitations, drawbacks, and even potential idolatry involved when institutions and individuals are so focused on this definition of success. They then explore an alternative way to conceive of Christians’ role in the world, one that is rooted in the surprising model of Jesus.

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In front of a packed house at the National Press Club, Curtis Chang, original Good Faith co-host David French, and editor in chief of Christianity Today Russell Moore introduce the After Party project. The project seeks to heal the currently troubled relationship between Christians and politics. The conversation was hosted by Trinity Forum president Cherie Harder. In this wide ranging discussion, they talk about where we as Christians have gone wrong and how we can reform our political mindset with timeless Biblical truths.

Show Notes:

The After Party

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Curtis and Nancy French explore the power of storytelling in everyday life.   Nancy, a professional storyteller and New York Times best-selling author, urges listeners to “read” the stories of their own lives – in order to see how the ultimate Author of their stories (God) has shaped their destinies.  Curtis and Nancy also encourage people to inhabit other peoples’ stories and to interview family members, such as parents, to more clearly see the context of their “origin stories.”

SHOW NOTES: Penzu online journal

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Curtis and "founding friend" David French explore Christianity and armed conflict. Viewed through the prism of the Ukraine War, they explore Christian just war theory. David, a former Army lawyer, walks through the moral and theological origins of the law of armed conflict. Curtis emphasizes the differences between the institutional purpose of the state and the church when it comes to war. Applying those principles to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, they discuss the necessity of Ukrainian resistance and the importance of American aid.

A helpful summary from Thinking Faith on the Christian “just war” theological tradition

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Curtis and guest Dr. Lydia Dugdale talk about life and death issues (literally) that affect every single human being. How do we face death? How can we die well? What are the cultural and medical forces that are leading so many to die poorly? Why are the practices of physican-assisted suicide and euthanasia gaining momentum and acceptance - and why has the Christian pro-life movement missed the deep connection between those practices and abortion?

Dr. Lydia Dugdale is a professor at the Columbia University Medical School and a national leader in medical ethics. She is the author of The Lost Art of Dying.

SHOW NOTES:

Free PDF download of The Lost Art of Dying study guide.

A pilot project in NYC that provides end-of-life resources for church leaders.

An excellent compilation of Christian writing on euthanasia and related end of life issues.

Coverage about Canada’s euthanasia industry in Plough Magazine and the New Atlantis.

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Rev. Justin Giboney and host Curtis Chang discuss how the Black church provides insight on the limitations of the progressive/conservative labels for all of us. Justin and Curtis also share candidly from their own experiences, giving everyone an intimate window into the complexities of racial identity and faith.

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How I Got Over

The After Party project

Dr. Charlie Dates

Rev. Eugene Rivers

The William J. Seymour Society (now Seymour Institute)

Azusa Street Revival

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Host Curtis Chang and regular guest David French discuss what young Christians need to be formed for thriving. In this far ranging conversation, they explore negative partisanship, the fruits of the spirit, the revival at Asbury, and how Christians should best interact with the world through politics. Also, Curtis describes how anxiety is a surprising underlying cause of the political acrimony and divisiveness that plagues our culture today. This special Good Faith podcast was recorded in front of a live audience at The Council for Christian Colleges & Universities, a higher education association of more than 185 Christian institutions around the world.

SHOW NOTES:

Pre-order Curtis Chang's upcoming book, The Anxiety Opportunity.

Learn more about the theology of institutions via this online video course from Redeeming Babel

Asbury Professor: We’re Witnessing a ‘Surprising Work of God’ (from Christianity Today)

More in Common: The Hidden Tribes Project

Jonathan Haidt on the “Rider and the Elephant”

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Peter Wehner’s former office was the White House. He served in the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush administrations, as Deputy Director of Speechwriting and later Director of the Office of Strategic Initiatives for President George W. Bush. Now, he’s a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times, and a contributing editor for The Atlantic.

He’s been in the halls of power, and he writes for publications of prominence. So why has Peter been in exile? In this powerful episode, Curtis talks to his old friend about what it’s like to have a role in the unfolding drama of American history, to believe your most important moments are in the past, and to walk out one’s faith in complicated times.

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Died: Steve Hayner, Former President of InterVarsity and Columbia Seminary, Christianity Today: This is a death notice for Steve Hayner, “one of the baby-boomer generation's most influential evangelical leaders, has died. He was known for his presidency at InterVarsity Christian Fellowship and later at Columbia Theological Seminary.”

Remembering Steve Hayner, InterVarsity: This reflection from Intervarsity about their former president states, “Steve became president of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship in 1988, near the end of a turbulent decade in which InterVarsity had five presidents. “Steve brought pastoral care, healing and hope to a community that had undergone much trauma,” said Alec Hill, Steve’s successor and InterVarsity’s current president.”

"Painting As a Pastime" by Winston S. Churchill; “The perfect antidote to his 'Black Dog', a depression that blighted his working life, Churchill took to painting with gusto. Picking up a paintbrush for the first time at the age of forty, Winston Churchill found in painting a passion that was to remain his constant companion. This glorious essay exudes his compulsion for a hobby that allowed him peace during his dark days, and richly rewarded a nation with a treasure trove of work.”

“President Donald Trump? Just Say No,” by Peter Wehner: This 2015 article describes Pete’s unwillingness to embrace the new GOP candidate who would ultimately become President of the United States.

“The GOP and the Birther Trap,” by Peter Wehner: This 2011 Wall Street Journal article describes Wehner’s take on a fringe conspiracy theory that was then front and center in American politics: the claim that President Barack Obama might not be a natural-born American citizen.

“Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump,” by Peter Wehner. This 2016 New York Times explains why Pete did not find Donald J. Trump suitable for the Oval Office.

Creating Beauty in Exile: Mark Labberton: Mark Labberton, president of Fuller Seminary, reflects on the themes of exile in scripture and what it means to live a “faithful exilic life” in a culture shaped by fear and violence.

Exile: A Conversation with N. T. Wright, Edited by James M. Scott, by N. T. Wright; According to N. T. Wright, the controlling narrative that shaped the thinking of Jesus and Paul is this: “Israel had grievously sinned against Yahweh and suffered the judgment of exile from its land. But even though Israel had returned, the majority of Jews of the second temple era regarded themselves in paradoxical exile under Roman rule and still awaiting their full restoration. It was this crisis of exile that reached its climax and resolution in the person and work of Jesus Christ.”

Makoto Fujimura on Faith and Art by Dan Clendenin, Journey with Jesus: “Makoto Fujimura is a leading contemporary artist whose process driven, refractive “slow art” has been described by David Brooks of the New York Times as ‘a small rebellion against the quickening of time.’ Robert Kushner, in the mid 90’s, has written on Fujimura’s art in Art in America this way: ‘The idea of forging a new kind of art, about hope, healing, redemption, refuge, while maintaining visual sophistication and intellectual integrity is a growing movement, one which finds Makoto Fujimura’s work at the vanguard.’”

The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth by Jonathan Rauch: Disinformation. Trolling. Conspiracies. Social media pile-ons. Campus intolerance. On the surface, these recent additions to our daily vocabulary appear to have little in common. But together, they are driving an epistemic crisis: a multi-front challenge to America's ability to distinguish fact from fiction and elevate truth above falsehood.

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New technology seems to be revolutionizing our world on a daily basis. ChatGPT — which has been used by more than a million people — might replace internet search engines and possibly your job. How should Christians deal with these machines that can communicate facts, create business plans, and do homework at the push of a button?

On this week’s episode of the Good Faith podcast, Curtis sits down with his friend, bestselling author Andy Crouch, to discuss how technology can enhance our lives or possibly deform us. They describe how technology paints as a false vision of human flourishing—and encourage Christians to fight back.

SHOW NOTES:

ChatGPT: In December 2022, Jeremy Howard, an artificial intelligence researcher, introduced an online chatbot called ChatGPT.

Joe Rogan Interviews Steve Jobs (Artificial Intelligence): Hosted by a fake version of Joe Rogan, this podcast attempts to bring the late Steve Jobs’ voice using artificial intelligence. “The meandering, near-20 minute fake interview was both surreal and occasionally funny,” writes Kyle Barr.

The Life We're Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World by Andy Crouch; The bestselling author Andy Crouch shows how we have been seduced by a false vision of human flourishing—and how each of us can fight back.

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In life, we have moments in which opportunities present the possibility of dramatic change. Dr. Michael Lindsay, president of Gordon College, calls these instances “hinge moments,” since a hinge can either shut or close a door leading to very different pathways in our lives.

This episode of the Good Faith podcast is actually one of these “hinge moments” for co-hosts David French and Curtis Chang, as David transitions to his new job at the New York Times. What will happen to the podcast? (Spoiler alert: it will go on!)

In this powerful episode, Dr. Lindsay joins his old friends David and Curtis to talk about his book, “Hinge Moments: Making the Most of Life's Transitions” and gives practical advice which applies to the podcasters and to all experiencing change that alters the course of our lives.

SHOW NOTES:

Hinge Moments: Making the Most of Life's Transitions by Dr. Michael Lindsay: In this book, Lindsay shares faith-based stories of success and failure from his 10-year study of 550 PLATINUM leaders. He has charted seven phases of transition, providing both practical and spiritual insights for making the most of each stage. In uncertain and tumultuous times, there is no better advantage than wisdom gained early.

Me, Myself, and Bob: A True Story About Dreams, God, and Talking Vegetables by Phil Vischer: This story by the VeggieTales creator is about dreaming big and working hard, of spectacular success and breathtaking failure, of shouted questions, and, at long last, whispered answers. Sometimes God can use the death of a dream to point us toward true success.

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A New Chapter in Millennial Church Attendance: “Patterns of attendance among younger generations can be especially important—and perplexing—for pastors to understand, in their own church and at large. Barna Group has studied the intersection of faith and culture for nearly four decades, with an emphasis on generational trends. This article explores recent data to help church leaders ground themselves in the present reality of church attendance across generations—especially Millennials—in 2022.”

The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America

by Richard Rothstein: “Richard Rothstein argues with exacting precision and fascinating insight how segregation in America—the incessant kind that continues to dog our major cities and has contributed to so much recent social strife—is the byproduct of explicit government policies at the local, state, and federal levels.”

The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul: “Ellul offers a penetrating analysis of our technological civilization, showing how technology—which began innocuously enough as a servant of humankind—threatens to overthrow humanity itself in its ongoing creation of an environment that meets its own ends.”

Nancy French’s entertainment suggestion tweet thread: “In the French house,David and I love to watch series. Frequently, people ask what good shows we've watched, so I thought I'd start a list (and I'll keep adding to it) of some of the binge-worthy TV we've enjoyed.”

Fasting: The Ancient Practices

by Scot McKnight: “Christianity has traditionally been at odds with the human body. At times in the history of the church, Christians have viewed the body and physical desires as the enemy. Now, Scot McKnight, best-selling author of The Jesus Creed , reconnects the spiritual and the physical in the ancient discipline of fasting.”

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In this podcast, David and Curtis return from trips around the world to give us a philosophical insight on courage. From Churchill to Lord of The Rings, stories of virtue can influence our own actions when tests cross our paths. They talk about the power of narratives and how they can build moral courage and character. Both dig into their past to bring up personal models of strength that have influenced who they are today. They wrap up with a critical look at political institutions under this moral framework.

SHOW NOTES:

-There’s a Question My Confederate Ancestors Taught Me To Ask by David French. In this April 26, 2020 Dispatch article, David writes about the incredibly powerful pull of tribe over truth.

-After Virtue: A Study in Moral Theory by Alasdair MacIntyre: Alasdair MacIntyre examines the historical and conceptual roots of the idea of virtue, diagnoses the reasons for its absence in personal and public life, and offers a tentative proposal for its recovery.

-The Literary Churchill: Author, Reader, Actor by Jonathan Rose: Rose examines Churchill’s careers as statesman and author, revealing the profound influence of literature and theater on Churchill’s personal, carefully composed grand story and on the decisions he made throughout his political life.

-Curtis’s account of Churchill's book "Savrola" is taken from Gideon Haigh’s 2014 Sydney Morning Herald article, “Winston Churchill's literary and theatrical influences” and his account of Nuremberg can be found at Nuremberg as the "City of Nazi Party Rallies."

-A Hidden Life: Written and directed by Terrence Malick, this film depicts the true story of an Austrian farmer facing execution for refusing to fight for the Nazis during World War II.

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What does it look like to have Christian hope in this chaotic world?

As believers, we live in the “already but not yet,” which means that we are currently in the kingdom of God, though the kingdom has not reached its full expression. In other words, we are “already” in the kingdom of God, but we do “not yet” experience its full glory.

In this Advent episode, David and Curtis look back at the challenging year and look for signs of the “coming Kingdom” so that listeners can “read the signs of the times”-- in a way that is both Biblical and hopeful – and live in the anticipation of God’s justice, restoration, and glory.

Show Notes:

-YouTube: God Bless You': Residents Welcome Ukrainian Troops As They Advance Toward Kherson

-YouTube: Ukrainian woman plays violin from apartment basement in Kharkiv

-World Health Organization: COVAX delivers its 1 billionth COVID-19 vaccine dose

-Forbes: How A Rock Star, A Physician-Legislator, And An Evangelical Senator Bonded To Help End The Global AIDS Pandemic: A Backstory

-The Perception Gap: Americans tend to have a distorted understanding of people on the other side of the aisle.

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Jesse Wiese robbed a bank and spent eight-and-a-half years in prison.

After he served his time, he experienced the challenges of reentering society. He joined the Prison Fellowship, graduating from law school, and is now the vice president of program design and evaluation at Prison Fellowship. Now he spends his time attempting to help fellow imprisoned people flourish after serving time in prison.

In this episode, Jesse shares his remarkable journey from bank robber to attorney, while David and Curtis discuss the church’s proper spiritual approach to criminal justice, prison reform, criminal justice reform, and the difference between justice and vengeance.

Show Notes:

-Visiting Prisoners in Jesus’ Day: Helping detained people was a shocking calling in the first century by David Stubbs in Christianity Today.

-The Sentencing Project: The Sentencing Project advocates for effective and humane responses to crime that minimize imprisonment and criminalization of youth and adults by promoting racial, ethnic, economic, and gender justice.

-Locked Out: Voices from America's Second Prison by Jesse Wiese (Editor): Interviews with former prisoners as they relate the ongoing consequences of incarceration long after their debt to society has been paid.

-Matthew 25:31-40: The Scripture which includes, “I was in prison and you came to visit me.”

-Prison Fellowship: Founded in 1976, Prison Fellowship® exists to serve all those affected by crime and incarceration and to see lives and communities restored in and out of prison.

-After Life: My Journey from Incarceration to Freedom Hardcover by Alice Marie Johnson (author), Kim Kardashian (foreword), and Nancy French (collaborator): The true story of the woman whose life sentence for non-violent drug trafficking was commuted by President Donald Trump thanks to the efforts of Kim Kardashian West.

Hosts: David French and Curtis Chang

Producer: Victoria Holmes

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We toss around words like “conservative” and “progressive” without really understanding – or agreeing on – the meaning of these terms.  

This week, David and Curtis discuss how these labels simply don’t work when applied across both theology and politics.

How is the equivocation surrounding these terms misleading and therefore damaging to Christian discourse? Can politics be used as a proxy for faithfulness? If so, when?

Join David and Curtis as they dive deeper into the word “progressive” and “conservative” and attempt to provide clarity on this common, important conversational terminology.

Show Notes:Check out Curtis’s course on the theology of institutions, called God’s Purpose for Your Organizational Life (free to Good Faith listeners).

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This week David and Curtis are joined by Eric Costanzo, a Southern Baptist pastor from Tulsa, Oklahoma who has led his own congregation in the practice of welcoming refugees and immigrants in their community. Eric is also the co-author of the book “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church”. Join us for this challenging discussion that, based on the number of times it’s mentioned in scripture (plus Jesus’ own experience as a displaced refugee), is an issue near to God’s own heart.

-The Story Behind DeSantis’s Migrant Flights to Martha’s Vineyard (New York Times)

-Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens

-“I Was a Stranger…” 40 Days of Scripture and Prayer - Bible App Reading Plan

-Evangelical Immigration Table

-Rising Village refugee initiative

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There is no shortage of punditry, analysis and Monday morning quarterbacking about this week’s midterm elections, including David’s own work at the Dispatch. In this podcast, however, David and Curtis try to take a slightly broader (dare we say higher?) view, to ask not only the raw political questions, but also the broader questions about what this election might be signaling for our country, our culture, and our church. What are the signs we should be paying attention to, and how should we as Christians be thinking, praying and responding to them?

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Episode 51 - Does Jesus Need an Ad Campaign? with Jason Vanderground

If you watch any sports on television you may have seen one of the edgy, black & white ads from the “He Gets Us” campaign. Designed to introduce Jesus to a culture that is actually quite intrigued by him, this campaign has created both curiosity and questions. We are excited to be joined this week by one of the chief architects of the campaign, Jason Vanderground. Join us for this excellent conversation about the campaign itself, the broader theological questions at play, and even the role of advertising as a tool of evangelism. 

Show Notes:

-He Gets Us campaign

Video Ads:

-The Rebel

-The Birth

-Outrage

-The Influencer

-Dinner Party

-He Gets Us campaign - About Us

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This week David and Curtis are joined by David Skeel, one of the world’s leading experts on bankruptcy law and the Chairman of the Financial Oversight & Management Board for Puerto Rico, which was responsible for helping the territory restructure and cut its public debt by 80%. David brings a unique perspective as both a legal scholar and follower of Christ, particularly around how our understanding of debt can and should image Biblical values while not being strictly prescribed by Biblical law. 

-Getting Puerto Rico’s Financial House Back in Order (WSJ) - Natalie Jaresko and David Skeel 

-The Law, The Gospel, and David Skeel (The Pennsylvania Gazette)

-Practicing Poetry, Teaching Law - David Skeel

-Poem | Hurakan Despacito, by David Skeel

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So how should Christians be approaching the midterm elections? Apart from the basic question of who to vote for, are there perhaps deeper questions to consider? What about the fact that 60% of Americans will have an election denier on their ballot this year? Is our democracy as unstable as a game of Jenga? Join David and Curtis for this enlightening discussion around the midterms and how we as Christians should be thinking about our role in the process.

-Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Live Not by Lies

-The New York Times - Democrats Aid Far-Right Candidate Against Republican Who Backed Impeachment

-Five Thirty Eight - 60 Percent Of Americans Will Have An Election Denier On The Ballot This Fall

-David French (The Dispatch) - Stacey Abrams Challenges the Pro-Democracy Left

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Anxiety is everywhere. It feels as though it is at crisis levels individually, and is also spilling over into our culture at large, particularly in the political arena. This week David and Curtis are joined by a live studio audience in Washington, DC to talk about our personal and cultural anxiety. Fortunately, they also offer some good news. Drawing upon Curtis’ upcoming book “The Anxiety Opportunity”, we learn how Christians can actually view anxiety as an opportunity to grow closer to a Savior who was constantly approached by anxious people, and who experienced very real human anxiety himself. 

Show Notes:

• Anxiety as Opportunity for Spiritual Growth (7-session online series for small groups and individuals

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Are Christians called to navigate their finances differently from everyone else? Are the oft-repeated directives to save aggressively and avoid all debt either scriptural or wise? Is it possible that spiritual wisdom and practical wisdom are sometimes one and the same? Join David and Curtis in this excellent discussion with James Choi, Professor of Finance at Yale. As a Christian and a behavioral economist, James brings both spiritual and practical wisdom to the area of personal finance and exposes where some of our most popular financial gurus might be giving us poor advice.

Show Notes:

-Derek Thompson (The Atlantic) - All the Personal-Finance Books Are Wrong

-Greg Rosalsky (Planet Money) - An economist studied popular finance tips. Some might be leading you astray

-Why I am a Christian (James Choi)

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Raise yourself up by your own bootstraps. This is a refrain we hear all the time, especially as Americans catechized in the dogma of personal responsibility. But what if some people don’t have bootstraps? What if some don’t even have boots?

This week David and Curtis welcome educational expert and Rice University sociology professor Ruth López Turley. Raised on the U.S./Mexico border, Ruth’s own educational story is fascinating and lends special weight to her observations about educational equity and how the scriptures (including Mary’s Magnificat) might lead us to some surprising and challenging conclusions.

Show Notes:

-$50M Kinder Foundation grant will expand Kinder Institute’s work to solve challenges facing Houston

-Claire Cain Miller, Josh Katz, Francesca Paris and Aatish Bhatia (The New York Times) - Vast New Study Shows a Key to Reducing Poverty: More Friendships Between Rich and Poor

-Cynthia M. Allen - Want economic mobility? Make friends at church

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Evil is certainly a powerful force in our world. We are witnessing it live in the form of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. But is evil ultimately as powerful as it is popularly portrayed? Does evil perhaps contain in itself the seeds of its own destruction? Join David and Curtis in this week’s fascinating discussion about the inherent weakness of evil. 

Show Notes:

• Why the Allies Won by Richard Overy
• Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield
• N.T. Wright: “Paul and Caesar: A New Reading of Romans”
• Good Faith Podcast with Tish Harrison Warren: “Praying Through Wars, Real and Imaginary”

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In this special re-release, we at the Good Faith podcast want to honor the life of Jonathan Tjarks, who passed away last week. Jonathan was an NBA beat writer and podcaster for The Ringer, but he was so much more! Just 6 months ago we had the pleasure of having Jonathan join us to talk about his cancer diagnosis, the role of his faith community in caring for his family, and even a little NBA talk. Whether you caught this episode or not, we believe his hard-earned wisdom is worth hearing over and over again. Rest in the peace of God Jonathan.

Show Notes:

• Jonathan Tjarks: “Does My Son Know You?”
• Jonathan Tjarks “Blogs About Books (Of The Bible)”
• Melissa Tjarks announcement of Jonathan’s passing

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In a previously recorded (but never released) episode, David and Curtis tackle the particularly vexing challenge of justice when crimes are committed. For those who do not engage regularly with the criminal justice system, these questions can feel distant, or even irrelevant. But as we are reminded, God’s repeated calls for justice throughout the scriptures don’t give the Christian such an easy out.

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This week David and Curtis dive into the issue of time and how our understanding of time horizons can profoundly impact our perspective on the world, whether it is getting worse or better, and what actions that should lead us to take. As Christians who believe in eternity, we should be good at “playing the long game,” but we often let ourselves get caught up in the issues of the moment, and let our compressed time horizons lead us to fear or despair, rather than hope.

Show Notes:

-Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World--and Why Things Are Better Than You Think by Hans Rosling

-“Imagine That” by Picture This

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This week David and Curtis are joined by Meghan Sullivan, philosopher, teacher, and creator of the most popular class at the University of Notre Dame, “God and the Good Life.” As many of us send our kids off to college (or head off to college ourselves), Meghan helps us appreciate the role of education–and of philosophy in particular–in helping students take on the big questions of life.

Show Notes:

-The Good Life Method by Meghan Sullivan and Paul Blaschko

-God and the Good Life (Notre Dame course)

-What is Philosophy?: Crash Course Philosophy #1

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This week David and Curtis are joined by Karen Swallow Prior, writer, thinker, and research professor of English and Christianity and culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. Karen talks to us about the current state of affairs in social media, particularly Twitter, and compares its impact on culture and the church to another critical technology, the printing press. She discusses how these modern technologies are impacting our brains, and how we can push back against this through the simple act of reading, especially the (necessarily slow and contemplative) reading of literature.

Show Notes:

-National Endowment of the Arts - “Reading at Risk: A Survey of Literary Reading in America”

-Caleb Crain (The New Yorker) - “Why We Don’t Read, Revisited”

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It’s been an eventful week, and for many a deeply troubling one. But of course, no matter what end of the political spectrum you come from, weeks like this seem increasingly common. The hits just keep on coming, as do the feelings of loss and fear. So how are we as Christians to navigate such deeply troubled times? This week, David and Curtis dive into this question with some interesting thoughts from Rudyard Kipling, and some even more important (and eternal) wisdom from the Psalms.

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This week David’s theological wingman Curtis returns from his July sabbatical. He’s rested and raring to go, but rather than dive into another hot political or cultural issue, Curtis actually has some remarkable insights to share about the nature of sabbath rest and the spiritual discipline of letting go, stepping away from our illusions of ultimate control and placing all our striving in God’s hands. In the second half of this episode Curtis also shares some important thoughts about the nature of remembrance and loss based on his experience at the 9/11 Memorial. If you’re a regular listener who is tempted to skip this episode because it’s not Good Faith’s regular political/cultural fare, then this episode is even more for you.

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While Curtis is still on sabbatical, David talks to Justin Giboney, co-founder of the AND Campaign, about racial justice, political tribalism, and the “God gap” in the Democratic Party. They discuss the problems with left and right as they grapple with extremism, and they talk about Justin’s experiences talking about hot-button topics from a politically heterodox (but theologically orthodox) point of view.

Show Notes:

-Good Faith Debates: How Should the Church Address Racial Injustice?

-AND Campaign

-Compassion (&) Conviction by Justin Giboney

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David talks to Georgetown professor and Bush administration alum Paul Miller about Paul's new book, “The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong With Christian Nationalism.” Paul defines Christian nationalism, discusses what's wrong with it theologically, what's wrong with it politically, and how it invariably leads to conflict and illiberalism. They also discuss Christian underrepresentation in the academy and other elite spaces, including its causes and consequences.

Show Notes:

-“The Religion of American Greatness” by Paul D. Miller

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David talks to Scott Sauls, an author and pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Tennessee. They talk about handling the exhaustion of the current moment, whether winsomeness "works," and the challenges facing pastors in the face of relentless criticism. They also address Scott's prescient warnings about the dangers of culture war obsessions--warnings that date well before the present extreme polarization.

Show Notes:

-“Beautiful People Don't Just Happen” by Scott Sauls

-“Jesus Outside the Lines” by Scott Sauls

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This week Eboo Patel, a Muslim pioneer in interfaith work, joins David and Curtis to discuss his book, We Need to Build. They discuss the need to allow people of different faiths to be able to bring their whole selves, including real and significant religious disagreements, to these conversations. Eboo also helps us understand why it is so important to do more than criticize what we don’t like in the culture, but instead to adopt the more mature approach of actually building what we want to see in society.

Show Notes:

-We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy by Eboo Patel

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Dobbs; January 6 hearings; war in Ukraine; mass shootings. We are being overwhelmed on a weekly basis by a relentlessly heavy news cycle. In this week’s episode David and Curtis give us a break from all this to talk with us about anxiety, despair and weariness. Wait . . . what?! Yes that’s right, this is the Good Faith version of “lighter” fare! It’s actually a very uplifting conversation and you may even walk away with some helpful ways to navigate the overwhelming feelings all of us are experiencing these days.

Show Notes:

-Future Tense: Why Anxiety Is Good for You (Even Though It Feels Bad) by Tracy Dennis-Tiwary

-Anxiety as Opportunity for Spiritual Growth (online course by Curtis Chang)

-Al Pacino “Inches” speech from Any Given Sunday

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