The Franklin Institute's So Curious! podcast is back with a bang, and this time exploring the captivating world of music through the lens of science. We all know the feeling of being moved by a song, but have you ever wondered why? Season 4 promises to get to the bottom of this mystery, interviewing experts in neuroscience, acoustics, biology, and musicology. From the connection between rhythm and dance to the link between memories and music, we'll leave no stone unturned in our quest to understand the why behind music. But it's not all serious - we're also here to entertain! Join host Bey and Kirsten for an exciting journey this summer as we discover the intricacies of music and technology, including the question of whether the next big pop star will be A.I. Get ready to dance, hum, and maybe even shed a tear - this season of So Curious! is going to be music to your ears.
In a special bonus episode of So Curious, Bey and Kirsten are joined by Derrick Pitts, Chief Astronomer and Director of the Fels Planetarium at the Franklin Institute!
The three discuss how Derrick came to be in the field of astronomy, what being in space would actually be like, how sci-fi shapes our understanding of outer space, and so much more.
Be sure to check out Derrick's new podcast, The Curious Cosmos, for more amazing space talk! New episodes will be released every Tuesday throughout the fall.
Hope you have your dancing shoes on, because in this final episode of So Curious' 4th season, Bey and Kirsten explore the science behind why music makes us dance!
First, they sit down with McMaster post-doctoral fellow Dr. Daniel Cameron to learn about his research into rhythm and the brain. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Jayatri Das, Chief Bioscientist of The Franklin Institute, to explore the incredible ways dance incorporates various sensory systems in our bodies. And to close out the season, Bey and Kirsten are joined by Philadelphia's DJ Phreakwency to explore the history of dance music, the experience of being a DJ, and what in his experience gets the crowd moving!
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This week, So Curious takes to the stage! Exploring how and why humans play and perform music.
First, Bey and Kirsten sit down with jazz educator and researcher Dr. Martin Norgaard to learn about jazz improvisation, and what happens in the brain while musicians are improvising. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Jayatri Das for another Body of Knowledge segment, this time to explore the physiology of singing and why we find songs so moving. And to round out the episode, veteran music teacher Beth Carson joins to discuss her years in the classroom, the importance of music education, what it's like to teach young children to perform.
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This season of So Curious, we've talked plenty about the music humans make. But what about the music made by other animals?
First, Bey and Kirsten sit down with birdsong researcher Dr. Stephen Nowicki to learn the surprising science behind how and why birds sing. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Lori Marino to explore the songs and sounds of dolphins and whales. And to close the episode, inter-species musician David Rothenberg joins to speak about the music he makes in collaboration with animals, from his philosophy behind doing so to the logistics of playing music deep in the wilderness.
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We all have memories closely tied to music in our life - but why are those connections so strong?
In today's episode of So Curious, Bey and Kirsten look to get to the bottom of this question. First, the two sit down with memory expert Dr. Andrew Budson to learn how memory works in the brain, and the many ways music interacts with that. Then, they speak with head of Northern Illinois University's Marketing program, Dr. Vijaykumar Krishnan Palghat, to learn about sonic logos and the surprising ways music and sound is used in the world of branding. From music as treatment for Alzheimer's disease, to why we can all sing the Nokia ringtone long after the brand disapeared, we're digging deep into why music makes us remember.
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We've all heard the phrase "music is the universal language", but what if that music/language connection went deeper than we thought?
First, hosts Kirsten and Bey speak with Dr. Ani Patel, the leading expert on the link between language and music in the brain, to learn about his research and the surprising links that have been found between the two. Then, our hosts sit down with Philly-based hip hop artist A.Rob to chat about how language and music interact in the world of rap, from the concept of flow to his experience as a bilingual rapper.
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This season, we've already looked at how music can affect our mental health, but what about our physical health?
To explore this question, Bey and Kirsten sit down with sports psychologist Professor Costas Karageorghis to learn how music can improve athletic performance, including how to build your ideal workout playlist, according to science! Then, professional musician and Curtis Institute professor Mary Javian joins to discuss how music is being used to improve the world of healthcare for both patients to doctors.
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In the future, how will we make and experience music?
In today's episode, Bey and Kirsten speak with some of the folks inventing that future. First, they sit down with with Dr. Jason Freeman to learn about (and hear samples from!) Georgia Tech's annual Guthman Musical Instrument Competition, an international contest showcasing newly invented instruments. Then, it's time for a field trip! So Curious goes on the road to visit Dr. Youngmoo Kim and his colleagues at Drexel University's Music and Entertainment Technology Lab. From vests that allow the deaf to experience music through their skin, to AI that can create music from noise, check out some of the incredible tech innovations being developed right here in Philadelphia!
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The human brain is amazingly complex, and full of fun little oddities when it comes to how it interacts with music!
To explore some of these quirks, Bey and Kirsten sit down with one of the founders of the field of music cognition, Dr. Robert Zatorre from McGil University, to talk everything from perfect pitch to how we can hear songs in our head. Then, they're joined by Dr. Jayatri Das, chief bioscientist at the Franklin Institute, for another Body of Knowledge segment, this time exploring the science behind auditory illusions and misheard lyrics! And to round out the episode, Bey and Kirsten chat with Philadelphia-based composer Andrea Clearfield to learn about her experience with synesthesia, and how seeing colors when she hears music (and vice versa) affects her creative process.
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We've all had music affect our mood. bb , but how can the emotional power of music be harnessed to treat mental health?
Today, Bey and Kirsten speak with two mental health professionals to learn about how music is incorporated into their practices. First, the two sit down with Dr. Marisol Norris to explore the field of music therapy, even trying out an exercise together! Then, the two speak with intergenerational trauma expert Dr. Mariel Buqué to learn about her therapy practice and how she incorporates sound baths into her work.
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The hills are alive... with curiosity! Why do instruments "sound" different from one another, and how do we respond to the different sounds we hear?
To explore these questions, Bey and Kirsten speak with music perception researcher Dr. Stephen McAdams, going in depth about timbre, orchestration, and the ways we perceive tone qualities. Then, the two sit down with electronic musician and educator Ben Runyan to learn about the history and technology behind synthesizers, including a live jam session!
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Why does music exist?
It's a big question, so Bey and Kirsten turn to the past for answers! They sit down with evolutionary biologist Dr. David George Haskell, ethnomusicologist Dr. Carol Muller, and acoustician Philip Faraci, exploring the ways anatomy, culture, and physics have shaped music over time.
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So Curious is back! And to kick off this season on the science of music, we're looking at a question we've all asked before; why do we like the music we like?
To get to the bottom of this, Bey and Kirsten sit down with three experts across the fields of music cognition, psychology, and audio engineering to explore the ways our brains, personality, and experiences help shape musical preferences.
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Just like anything else, the mental health world is susceptible to buzzwords. Lately, the term "wellness" has been tossed around everywhere, but what does that word even mean? In the last episode of this season, Bey and Kirsten do what they do best, and turn to science for some answers!
First, the two sit down with cross-cultural wellness researcher Dr. June Kim for some definitions. Then, Dr. Glenn Fox joins to share his work, scientifically measuring the affect practicing gratitude can have on our mental health. And to close out the season, Bey and Kirsten chat with Malaika Gilpin, co-founder and director of the One Art Community Center in West Philly, to learn some of the practical ways they help promote wellness in the local community.
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Inevitably, we all deal with the loss of a loved one, but why is something as universal as grief still so difficult to process? To get some answers from science, Bey and Kirsten sit down with grief researcher Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor to explore how grief affects our brains and bodies. Then, the two chat with creativity expert Natalie Nixon, looking at how creativity can help one to find meaning following a loss. And to round out the episode, Marguerite Nicosia from the Shanthi Project returns with another mindfulness exercise.
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Hope you're hungry! Today's episode is all about food, both how food impacts our mind, and how our mind impacts our relationship with food. To explore how what we eat impacts the way we feel, Bey and Kirsten sit down with psychiatrist Dr. Drew Ramsey to discuss nutritional psychology. Then, the two chat with self described anti-diet dietician and food writer Christine Byrne, investigating the ways language and societal pressure can negatively affect our relationship to food, and how we can combat these stigmas.
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From doom scrolling to video games, we're constantly hearing how digital technologies are ruining our mental health, but do these claims hold any credence? To try and get to the bottom of this question, Bey and Kirsten sit down with three different guests - trauma researcher Roxanne Cohen Silver, author Jordan Shapiro, and the Franklin Institute's own Dr. Jayatri Das - to investigate the 24 hour news cycle, fears around kids using new technology, and the potential of chatbots and VR in mental health treatment.
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Stress! We all deal with it, but what exactly is it? And how does stress affect our minds, actions, and mental health? To get some answers, Bey and Kirsten sit down with Dr. Jeremy Jamieson to learn how stress can impact decisions, and sometimes even be a good thing. Then, they speak with Dr. Jenna Rieder, to learn how stress interacts with hormones in the body.
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For years, medication has been used to treat mental health conditions, but have you ever wondered how it actually works? In this fascinating discussion, Bey and Kirsten sit down with Dr. A. John Rush to dive into the world of antidepressants. From popular SSRIs to cutting-edge laser treatments, they explore how these drugs affect the brain and help people manage their mental health.
Then, we turn to the future of mental health treatment. Dr. Rebecca Brachman joins in to discuss her groundbreaking research on preventative medication. Is it possible to take a pill that would ward off depression and anxiety before they even start? Tune in to find out.
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As a special Valentine's Day treat, we're looking at how our bodies affect our emotions, mind, and mental health! Author Dr. Randi Hutter Epstein helps us uncover the history of hormones, both what they actually are and the wild medical history surrounding their discovery. Then, Dr. Michael Gandal sits down with Kiristen and Bey to explain how his research lab is exploring the link between genes and neurodevelopmental disorders.
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PTSD, OCD, ADHD, Addiction, Bipolar, Trauma ... What do these labels even mean, and are they helpful? This whole season's about mental health, but what does the term even mean, and how is it different from "mental illness"? Dr. Jayatri Das, Chief Bioscientist at The Franklin Institute, joins for another Body of Knowledge segment to help get some definitions. Then, Bey and Kirsten sit down with Becca Lane, Youth Education and outreach manager at NAMI Philadelphia, to learn how language impacts our understanding and perspective on mental health conditions.
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There are so many forms of support when it comes to mental health. To explore this, Bey and Kirsten chat with Jerome Shabazz on the impact the environment has on our wellbeing. Then, service dog trainer Mark Ruefenacht takes us on a journey of how impactful and important animals can be to mental health.
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How does who you are impact your mental health, and vice versa? To try and unpack that loaded question, Bey and Kirsten chat with photojournalist Octavio Jones, whose work has focused on black men’s relationship to mental health, and Grace Malloy, an LGBTQ-focused therapist.
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Dr. Jayatri Das, chief bioscientist at The Franklin Institute, joins for her Body of Knowledge segment, explaining what happens in the body when you feel emotions. Then, social worker Brie Wildau helps us understand feelings from a psychological perspective.
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To kick off the season, Kirsten and Bey sit down with Penn State professor Dr. Greg Eghigian to learn all about the history of mental health. Find out how it was perceived throughout time, how treatment has developed, and how our modern understanding of mental health has emerged. Plus, we’ll learn what the vagus nerve is and learn a mindfulness technique to reset it from Marguerie Nicosia of the Shanthi project.
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You know that feeling you get when you get a match on tinder? This week, Kirsten and Bey talk with expert Dr. Alina Liu about how the video game style structure of dating apps affects our psyche. Later, we hear from Geoff Cook, the founder of the famous dating platform MeetMe. Geoff shares how using live streaming video breaks the artificial barrier that usually comes along with dating apps. Finally, we finish this episode hearing from an ACTUAL couple about their relationship story.
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In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking all about the marriage. Historian Dr. Rebecca Davis shares about her research in how the institution of marriage has changed over the years. Later on the episode, Dr. Das shares her research on how mammals create relationships with one another.
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(RE-POST from Season 1) In this episode, hosts Kirsten and Bey kick this season off how all podcasts should - by diving deep into the world of frog sex. Biologist Dr. Alex Baugh shares how frogs make mate choices and introduces us to one of his many frog subjects. Later in the episode, we sit down with Franklin Institute’s chief bioscientist, Dr. Jayatri Das, to talk about popular ideas and research in the science world surrounding our first impressions in relationships. Burning question: is gaydar a real thing?
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On the final episode for this season, we are talking all about ghosting. Kirstin and Bey sit down with Dr. Gili Freedman to discuss her work in studying the impact of rejection. They discuss the best ways to reject someone and what is going on physiologically when we feel rejected. Finally, we end this episode talking to Philadelphia street artist Amberella. Links for this episode: Learn more about http://gilifreedman.com/ (Dr. Gili Freedman) Learn more about http://www.amberellaxo.com/ (Amberella) Read https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-ghosting-how-rejection-affects-our-brains-bodies/ (episode transcript)
In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking all about the marriage. Historian Dr. Rebecca Davis shares about her research in how the institution of marriage has changed over the years. Later on the episode, Dr. Das shares her research on how mammals create relationships with one another. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.udel.edu/faculty-staff/experts/rebecca-davis/ (Dr. Rebecca Davis ) Learn more about https://www.fi.edu/scientists/jayatri-das-phd (Dr. Jayatri Das) Read a https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-the-history-of-marriage/ (transcript of this episode)
In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking about the effect porn has on the brain. They are joined by neuroscientist Dr. Mateusz Gola, as he discusses his research in how porn addiction. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://profiles.ucsd.edu/mateusz.gola (Dr. Mateusz Gola )
On today's episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking all about how traditional relationships are evolving. They are joined by Dr. Jorge Ferrer as he discusses his book "Love and Freedom: Transcending Monogamy." Later, Janet Hardy joins the show to talk about ethical relationships, sexual fulfillment, and her book, "The Ethical Slut." Links for this episode: Learn more about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Hardy (Janet Hardy) Learn more about https://www.jorgenferrer.com/ (Dr. Jorge Ferrer) Read a https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-non-monagamy/ (transcript of this episode)
On this episode, Kirstin and Bey talk with writer and speaker Jacklyn Friedman about her book, "Yes Means Yes" and how the shift in sexual culture over the past 10 years has happened. Later in this episode, health educator Janielle Bryan breaks down what sex ed curriculums look like today and her project researching what sex means to marginalized communities. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.janiellebryan.com/ (Janielle Bryan) Learn more about https://www.jaclynfriedman.com/ (Jaclyn Friedman)
On this episode of So Curious, Kirstin and Bey are talking about being single with Dr. Jessica D Moorman. Dr. Moorman talks about her interview based study, "Being Single Is...". Later in the episode, Kirstin and Bey are joined by Dr. Valerie Kretz about how relationships are portrayed in the media and its affect on our understandings of interpersonal relationships. They also discuss the phenomenon of parasocial relationships, or the relationships we develop with fictitious characters in television or movies. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://jdmoorman.com/ (Dr. Jessica D. Moorman) Learn more about https://www.snc.edu/academics/faculty/valerie.kretz.html (Dr. Valerie Kretz)
In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are joined by associate professor of anatomy and neurobiology Dr. Jonathan Wisco and a few of his students. We will be hearing about what the next generation is focusing on in terms of providing equal care for people with different gender and sexual identities. Please note: This episode was recorded prior to the overturning of Roe v Wade. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/profile/jonathan-wisco/ (Dr. Jonathan Wisco) Read https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-sexual-health-medicine-access/ (episode transcript)
What is REALLY happening when we fall in love? In this episode we talk with the person who revolutionized the science behind romantic love- Dr. Lucy Brown talks with us about how she conducts groundbreaking research that measures romantic love. Later in the episode, Lucy and Tamar talk about their relationship story. If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave us a rating! Links for this episode: Learn more about https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MBNiPgjmBumCqr8eM98qavUJWr6vcyUb2LTeRhkojHY/edit (Lucy Brown) Learn more about https://open.spotify.com/artist/769qVdpeMucAKy4lMR1dv7?si=w_6zoK08TFGUib_x7i6iMg (Lucy)
In this episode, Kirsten and Bey talk to the VP of Communication for Grindr, Patrick Lenihan. Patrick shares how Grindr became a popular hub for gay people to meet, chat, and hook up. Later in the episode, Dr. Jayatri Das is back with her findings on hook-up culture in today's world. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.grindr.com/ (Grindr) Learn more about https://www.fi.edu/scientists/jayatri-das-phd (Dr. Jayatri Das) Read a https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-hookup-culture-in-2022/ (transcript of this episode)
You know that feeling you get when you get a match on tinder? This week, Kirsten and Bey talk with expert Dr. Alina Liu about how the video game style structure of dating apps affects our psyche. Later, we hear from Geoff Cook, the founder of the famous dating platform MeetMe. Geoff shares how using live streaming video breaks the artificial barrier that usually comes along with dating apps. Finally, we finish this episode hearing from an ACTUAL couple about their relationship story. Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/alina-liu-san-francisco-ca/928810 (Dr. Alina Liu) Learn more about https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoff-cook-0a35ba3/ (Geoff Cook) Read a https://beyond.fi.edu/?post_type=podcast_transcript&p=3504&preview=true (transcript) of this episode
You might like robots, but do you LOVE robots? In this episode Kirsten and Bey with expert Dr. Julie Carpenter about how people form attachments to AI. They also break down myths and truths about sex technology. Later on Dr. Liesel Sharabi teaches us all about the impact of technology on our relationships. Are instagram couples really happy? What do dates look like in the metaverse? Links for this episode Learn more abouthttps://www.jgcarpenter.com/ ( Dr. Julie Carpenter) Learn more about https://isearch.asu.edu/profile/1545812 (Dr. Leisel Sharabi) https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/transcript-tech-relationships-dates-in-the-metaverse-sex-robots-and-ai-sex-toys-is-this-the-future/ (View episode transcript)
WE'RE BACK! In this episode, hosts Kirsten and Bey kick this season off how all podcasts should - by diving deep into the world of frog sex. Biologist Dr. Alex Baugh shares how frogs make mate choices and introduces us to one of his many frog subjects. Later in the episode, we sit down with Franklin Institute’s chief bioscientist, Dr. Jayatri Das, to talk about popular ideas and research in the science world surrounding our first impressions in relationships. Burning question: is gaydar a real thing? Links for this episode: Learn more about https://www.fi.edu/scientists/jayatri-das-phd (Dr. Jayatri Das) Learn more about http://www.baughlab.org/ (Dr. Alex Baugh) Read a https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-transcript-episode-13-winning-her-over-lessons-from-the-frogs/ (transcript of this episode)
We're back! On this season of "So Curious!", we will be talking to experts about the science of love, sex and relationships. Subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen and stay tuned for episodes every Tuesday this summer!
Death. We can’t escape it. In this final episode of our series Angelica and Bey talk with palliative care physician Dr. David Casarett about death, dying, and really everything death-related. Hear from guests throughout the season about how their experience with the science of life shapes their thoughts about death. Click to learn more about about https://medicine.duke.edu/faculty/david-jonathan-casarett-md (Dr. David Casarett )
Every day, biotechnology is advancing in ways that can change our bodies, our lives, and our society. As this happens, who gets to participate? And what does that mean for science? In this episode, Angelica and Bey discuss access to advancement in science tech with museum designer Dr. Anja Scholze and neuroscience researcher Kyndall Nicholas. Show Links https://twitter.com/biophilebytes (Dr. Anja Scholz), Program Director, Bio+Design at The Tech Interactive https://www.blackinneuro.com/Sys/PublicProfile/59926702 (Kyndall Nicholas), Outreach Director, Black in Neuroscience https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/episode-11-who-gets-to-be-a-part-of-advancing-science/ (View episode transcript)
In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk about artificial organs and 3D printing with Brian Shepard, the CEO of the United Network for Organ Sharing, and Director of Innovation at the Jefferson Health Design Lab, Dr. Robert Pugliese. Show Links https://unos.org (United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS)) https://unos.org/about/leadership/brian-shepard/ (Brian Shepard) https://www.healthdesignlab.com (Jefferson Health Design Lab) https://www.linkedin.com/in/rspugliese/ (Robert Pugliese, Pharm.D.) https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/s-curious-episode-10-organ-donation-and-3d-printing-human-organs/ (View episode transcript)
Biohacking is SO many things! In this episode Angelica and Bey talk to two people on each end of the biohacking spectrum: biodesigner Ricky Solorzano and bodybuilder Scott Shunk. Later in the episode, our favorite chief bioscientist Dr. Jayatri Das is back! https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/episode-9-from-bodybuilding-to-bacterial-shoes/ (View Episode Transcript)
Who’s making the call about what we eat and whether we’re healthy? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk with Jefferson University dietitian Rabiya Bower and Philadelphia’s Farmer Jawn, Christa Barfield, about the HAES (Health at Every Size) movement, how to combat weight-shaming at the doctor’s office, and how urbanites can be empowered by growing and knowing where our food comes from! Episode Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rabiyabowerrd/ (Rabiya Bower, MHSc, RD, LDN) https://www.farmerjawnphilly.com (Farmer Jawn) https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-episode-8-redefining-wellness/ (Episode Transcript)
Let's talk about what's right and wrong when it comes to the brain! In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk about neuroethics with ethicist Dr. Anna Wexler, an ethicist at the University of Pennsylvania. Later in the episode, Jayatri comes back to share her wisdom with us one last time. https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-episode-7-whats-fair-when-it-come-to-the-brain/ (View episode transcript)
What happens when you send magnetic fields through the brain? Can it help treat depression? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk with mental health journalist Courtenay Harris Bond about her experience using TMS to treat her depression. Later, we hear from neurologist Dr. Roy Hamilton about how TMS works and what's going on in the brain. To wrap things up, The Franklin Institute's Chief Bioscientist Dr. Jayatri Das is back with more TMS conversations! https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-episode-6-using-magnetic-fields-to-treat-depression/ (View Episode Transcript)
What are the smells of your childhood? In this episode, Angelica and Bey chat with Dr. Nancy Rawson, Vice President of the Monell Chemical Senses Center, about the deep world of our senses and the future of human smell. Show Links Learn more about https://monell.org/nancy-rawson/ (Nancy Rawson) https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-episode-5-transcript/ (View episode transcript)
What goes into developing technology that can help us lead healthier lives–but also fits into our day-to-day lives? Perhaps a person with an idea and a person who can make it come to life? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk to both sides of innovation- materials scientist Dr. John A Rogers and chief innovation officer at Penn Medicine, Roy Rosin. Show Links Learn more about http://rogersgroup.northwestern.edu/ (Dr. John A. Rogers), The Franklin Institute Awards 2019 https://www.fi.edu/laureates/john-rogers (Benjamin Franklin Medalist) in Materials Engineering Learn more about https://chibe.upenn.edu/faculty-members/roy-rosin-mba/ (Roy Rosin, MBA ) https://beyond.fi.edu/podcasts/so-curious-episode-4-really-big-ideas/ (View Episode Transcript)