The Chirp: A Podcast By Pigeon Loans: Recent Episodes
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The Chirp is here to educate you on the world of loans, its impact on relationships, and what we can do to change the narrative around it. 🐣🎶
We all have stories when it comes to lending and borrowing from friends and family. Some of us have fond & positive memories about those times, while others think back on those moments with pain & regret.
Regardless of your experience, we all have a story to tell, and that‘s what we are here to do!
Join us as we talk with everyday people and dive into the positive, the negative, and all the stories in between that we all hold near and dear to our hearts when it comes to dealing with money within our relationships.
Sometimes, life can get overwhelming, and suddenly at that. One day you may be planning to start a new dream job in your dream city, but without notice, all of that could change in an instant. Our guest this week, Amadan Heyliger, is no stranger to this reality. A lover of pretty much everything; art, music, technology, real estate, travel, and best of all, speed walking - Amanda walked us through the journey she had to undergo both financially and mentally during a time at which all of life's struggles came crashing down on her all at once. An awesome tale of resilience and being open to life's opportunities, Amanda reminds us that despite our struggles, there is a little bit of fun, beauty, and positivity in everything.
We all know that managing your finances is tough. We also know that running a business is tough. But what if you had to manage your finances while also trying to run a self-employed business during a time at which economic activity across the world ground to a screeching halt? Well our guest this week, Rachel Curry, had to do just that. Having started her career as a freelance writer only months prior to a global pandemic beginning, Rachel spoke with us about the struggles she had to endure to make ends meet during the financial meltdown caused by COVID-19. A sobering story filled with misplaced trust, and hope for a better tomorrow, Rachel shows us the ugly side of what can wrong when you ask for help.
Life is full of expectations. Whether struggling to understand the desires of a significant other, confused about our roles within our careers, or tired of being let down by the people around us, meeting or achieving expectations is a tough reality we all have to deal with. Just like everyone else, our guest this week, Buddy Rathmell is no stranger to expectations. Having moved halfway across the world from the United States to Thailand in hopes of starting a successful escape room business, Buddy shared with us the gravity of the expectations he faced along his journey. A journey filled with uncertainty, angst, lifelong friendships, and financial insecurities we discussed all the hurdles but also triumphs that can fill life when expectations get involved. Sometimes expectations work out as planned and other times they lead to disaster, but all in all, setting the right expectations is key to making sure everything works out in the end.
Progress is something we all look to continually achieve in life. From getting better at a sport to learning a brand new skill, every day we are constantly trying to be better people and do grander things in our lives to make it worth living. Making progress in anything isn't easy, oftentimes it takes resilience, a little ingenuity, and ultimately the drive to overcome many struggles. Our guest this week, Ngalinda Ngalinda is no stranger to overcoming the struggles it takes in order to be successful. A Dubai-based businessman, Ngalinda walks us through the lessons he's learned in life from his early years in Africa, his coming of age time in Ireland, and his time in academia honing his skills in the world of computer science and sales. Struggling is a natural part of life, so listen closely as Ngalinda reminds us that overcoming struggle is only the path forward to truly reaching success.
Finding your calling is not easy. Some people search their whole lives to find that one thing they are good at, while others are just born with a natural knack for something. Our guest this week, Benjamin Dennehy has experienced a little bit of both to get to where he is today. Having earned the name The UK's Most Hated Sales Trainer, Benjamin was a lawyer by education but found out that sales was his true calling all along. After a grueling 20+ year journey of learning the ropes of his craft, while trying to scrape together just enough money to put food on the table for himself and his family, Benjamin has now amassed quite the name for himself and turned his life around for the better. Listen to our conversation with Benjamin as he walks us through what it takes to not only be a great salesman but to have enough persistence to make it through tough financial times.
For our special 20th episode we are recapping some of the greatest hits from The Chirp so far. We've brought you stories from entrepreneurs, writers, musicians, thinkers, artists, philanthropists, travelers, mechanics, and so many more. Each with their own unique story, we've had conversations with so many amazing folks about their trials and tribulations with money and how in those times they depended on their friends, family, loved ones, and community to make it through. Sometimes these stories did not end well and other times everything worked out for the best, but all in all, they all share a common thread and voice that we at The Chirp want to continue to create a space for. So without further ado, here are our greatest moments from the podcast so far!
There are only a few things in this world more powerful than the words trust and support. We trust our friends and family to have our backs when times are tough and rely on the support of our community to make it through life's challenges. Our guest this week, Jon O'Bryan is no stranger to either of these words. Founder and CEO of Y Combinator-backed startup, Atlas, Jon has a PhD in Theoretical Cosmology and is a 4-time success in the world of startups. Even with all of these accolades under his belt, over the years, Jon has relied quite heavily on his trust in others and the support of his loved ones in order to achieve much of his success. Supported by his father, family, investors, colleagues, and more, you'll come to learn by listening to our conversation with Jon, that everyone, no matter your achievements, at some point will have to call upon the help of others to get through life.
Money has a funny way of disappearing when you need it most. From unpaid promises to overextended budgets money can often disappear in life’s most crucial moments. No stranger to this reality, our guest Jérémy Chevallier has had his fair share of loans with friends and family go wrong at the worst possible times. A friend vanishing to Vegas when times got tough, and the purchase of his dream home dependent on the status of a failed wire transfer - our conversation with Jérémy showed us that sometimes luck plays a huge role in the outcome of mixing money with your relationships.
Being a student is tough. And, being a student, Youtuber, content creator, podcaster, product manager, and black woman in tech, to be frank, is nearly impossible. However, our guest, Miko James is pulling off the impossible and making it look easy while doing it. Although only 24 years old, voice of The Black Enterprise Network, Miko is all too familiar with the world of borrowing and broken promises. A childhood riddled with financial commitments gone sour and focused on making the dream of a promising career her reality, Miko for a long time grew financially by herself, without any help at all. Considering the successes Miko has garnered thus far, surprisingly, even she has had to turn to her family for help in a time of need; making a self-proclaimed uncomfortable situation of having to borrow money for the very first time a necessary one in order to secure her own financial future. Listen to Miko as we learn about the world of early-career tech and come to understand that even the best of us need a helping hand every once in a while.
Knowing how to navigate your finances is a tough skill to master. With money being a taboo topic within our communities and relationships, it's hard to learn the right strategies to secure a stable financial future for yourself when very few are willing to talk candidly about these topics. Even with this unfortunate reality in mind, there are, however, resources and people out there trying to change this guarded narrative. One such pioneer, Brenda Olmos, a first-generation American, registered nurse securing a Ph.D., and co-host of the podcast, Minority Millenial Money, is altering the way we think about money by creating spaces to educate, communicate, and foster open dialogue around the taboo aspects of personal finance. Listen to Brenda as she dives deep into articulating the positive effects talking about money openly can have on everyone.
Loans, money, and relationships. We've all had to deal with them before, and we've all had to mix them together once or twice in our lifetimes. But why do these topics make us uncomfortable? Why do we all struggle to have positive experiences with these constructs? Well, no one truly knows the full answer to these questions, but as founder and CEO of Pigeon Loans, Brian Bristol has come up with a few ideas that may just solve some of these problems. With stories about how important lending is within society, how his own family experiences led him to create Pigeon Loans, and advice on how if we all band together we may just be able to overcome some of life's biggest challenges, this episode will surely explain the method behind the madness of Pigeon Loans, money, and relationships.
Resilience is something we all have, but few of us have truly mastered it. The ability to bounce back from financial hardship, overcome the inescapable cycle of living paycheck to paycheck, and recover from hearing about news of unemployment on his birthday - Keith Moore aka Mr. Credit Banking is a man who's mastered resiliency. A self-described "regular man" Keith teaches us how to conquer the world of personal finance. From stories of despair to guidance on how to learn the personal finance system, Mr. Credit Banking has transformed himself from a man with nothing, into a man with a plan, all accomplished with a little help from the "Google machine". Listen as Keith shares his marvelous story!
The power of money is a fascinating phenomenon. You either control it, or it controls you. Being smart with your money and knowing how to face financial problems is a skill we are unfortunately are not taught in the classroom. From creating budgets to tracking bills on a spreadsheet, never assuming your financial well-being is taken care of can make a world of difference in life. After finding herself pregnant, divorced, homeless, and buried under hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt, no stranger to hardship, Vicki Wusche ultimately took control of her finances and found a way to make her money work for her. Listen as Vicki, one of The Telegraph's top 25 influential people in property, challenges us to face our financial struggles and fears head-on.
Loans, we all know what they are. We've all had to borrow money from someone before or have had to lend a helping hand once or twice in our lives. When times get tough, people depend on each other, and it's during those times that communities and relationships are of the utmost importance. In this episode, you'll hear from Kaben Clauson, co-founder of Pigeon Loans, and one of the many people in this world that have struggled deeply with the pains of lending and borrowing money with others. He tells his story, along with the stories of others, about how he's found ways to turn this often negative experience into a positive one. Listen as we dive deep into tales of shame, burden, anguish, but ultimately triumph as Kaben has had to rely on friends, family, and believers to reach the levels of success in his life.
Time is money. It's a saying that we've all heard before and one that Ally Muller takes literally. Director of GOYA Consulting, Ally dedicates her time to building and crafting her relationships in the world of startups. One relationship at a time, each connection molded, Ally walks us through all the things she's learned throughout her career that have led her to succeed in the world of investing. Listen as we talk with Ally about how innovation can be sparked in the world of business by nothing more than an initial push from a friend, family member, or fool.
When it comes time to get yourself out of a pinch, who do you normally turn to for help? Maybe it's your childhood best friend, a close cousin, a neighbor, or perhaps someone you look up to in your community. For Chris Daniels, founder of the popular Miami-based community, The Shrimp Society, he turns to his family, and specifically his lawnmower supporting father for help. Listen as we talk with Chris about how he has been able to leverage loans with those closest to him all throughout his life to better his business endeavors. From creating a neighborhood lawn moving empire at 16 to launching an NFT based founder-friendly community in Miami, Chris has depended on his family and the beauty of loans throughout it all.
Chasing your dreams is not all it's cracked up to be, especially if you can't put food on the table. Artists, actors, and musicians are no strangers to this reality, so going through the growing pains of trying to make it big can harden even the most resilient dreamers. In this episode, we talked to a resilient dreamer and LA musician Liam O'Brien. Littered with stories of financial expectations, commitments to following his passions, and so much more, this look into the unspoken world of the music industry is a brutally honest tale. Note: Listener discretion advised; explicit content.
Struggling is a reality we rarely talk about openly. People love a good success story. A man walking across the moon or an athlete breaking a new record - we gawk and awe at the success of others, but never really take the time to think about all of the struggles that lead up to those culminating moments. You may not be Neil Armstrong, but you are someone with your own achievements, your own accomplishments, and your own successes. Take a moment to think, however, have you ever stopped to reflect on the struggles you overcame to get to that point? In our conversation with Josh Barker, thought leader behind City Innovation Labs, we did just that. Building a successful technology company takes more than just ingenuity and grit, sometimes it requires a bit of humility and in this case a brother sticking his neck out for his family financially when Josh had no options left to turn to.
We are all trying to do our best in this race we call life. Some people live an audacious life dreaming of one day becoming an astronaut or physicist, while others, unfortunately, have to desperately fight and worry each night about how to put food on the table for their families. Life and all of its ups and downs are full of many mysteries, but one thing is clear to us all, we're all human and we should all be treated as such. This week we got a reminder of exactly that - a motto & sentiment Joe Casabona lives by. A web developer, author, teacher, content creator, and podcaster, Joe takes us through the journey of his life and teaches us how important it is to give back and invest in those around you along the way.
The world of money movement between friends, family, colleagues, business partners, and everything in between is changing every single day. As we become more interconnected we are finding new ways to share value, work towards common goals, and even rewrite the way we think about interpersonal relations. In this episode, we got a chance to talk to Daniel Narciso, a savant in the litigation finance space by day and an encyclopedia of knowledge leading a startup called 1Haus Collective by night. From stories in which long-time lovers are forced to live together even after a shared financial meltdown and subsequent separation to tales of influencers in the creative space being cheated out of their just pay, no matter the adventure, this episode is sure to teach you something new and exciting!
Community and doing things for one another is an ethos many of us can identify with. From book clubs to sports teams, to villages in Africa - people coming together to achieve a common goal and advance one another is one of the purest forms of humanity we experience. In this episode, we got a chance to talk with Rahama, creator of Shea Yeleen, to hear about the financial underpinnings of what powers the shea butter industry. From stories about brilliant businesswomen building together to the shared sense of financial responsibility instilled in many African communities, listen to Rahama Wright as she walks us through her journey with Shea Yeleen - a game-changing beauty brand dedicated to producing social good for women.
This episode is sure to make you laugh. In this story of The Chirp, we got a chance to sit down with JoAnn Shilling. For 15 years, JoAnn helped her family run their locally-owned auto repair shop - Joe Shilling Auto. Just like at the barbershop or the hair salon, stories come aplenty when you're waiting to get your car fixed. From tales of secret missions to purchases of fake car titles, JoAnn walks us through the wildly entertaining stories that occur when people need to rely on financial favors from others in order to make ends meet when it comes to their cars. Listen to JoAnn as she reflects on her life, and tells us the story of an Army veteran who escaped the responsibilities of having to pay off a loan for his car by going on a secret confidential mission.
Family - we either love them, hate them, can't stand them, or can't live without them. No matter how we feel about them, we're stuck with them and they make our lives all the more interesting for it. As supportive as some of our families may be, we still often find ourselves trying to overcome life's challenges alone. All in all, not seeking help boils down to one thing - pride, and sometimes it can be the difference between success and failure. Listen to Daisha, as she tells stories about how her family has supported each other financially for generations, and how she didn't let pride get in the way of her starting Noir Natural Products from only $100 and growing it into a profitable 5-star business with thousands of sales a month on Etsy.
Friendships make life worth living. We go out with our friends, we laugh with our friends, we eat with our friends, and most of all we try to live the best lives we can with our friends. However, sometimes those friendships fade away and we forget about them. But what if, a friendship you long cherished that dissolved over time, surprisingly came back - but this time, with a request for money. Listen to Geoff as he tells stories about his childhood in Dublin, fond memories he shares with his cherished friends, and a disturbing tale of an "ask for money" from a once-trusted acquaintance.
Marriage is a delicate dance to get right. Two people come together to mix their finances, ambitions, and dreams together in hopes of making something magical. However, not all relationships have a fairy tale ending. Listen as Cameron talks with CEO of washbnb, Daniel Cruz about his struggles with juggling his marriage, divorce, money, his career, and aspirations in life.
Coming soon! A new podcast discussing the personal side of money within relationships and what we can do to change the narrative around it.
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