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Marshall Æon

Integral Theory, Sensemaking, Culture War, Enneagram

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I am super proud to be sharing this discussion I had with Ēlen Awalom on the trans-Apocalyptic Oasis Show. I truly believe that her lived experience and evolution from Radical Black Feminist to Embodied Leadership Coach has the power to be transformational for many who are searching for a way to move beyond the limitations of woke ideology. Ēlen declares that the Revolution is not to be found out there—it's inside each of us!

We explore the following:

👉🏾 What is Post-Blackness?

👉🏾 What does it mean to transcend blackness in a world that is still deeply racist?

👉🏾 What does post-blackness look like in action?

👉🏾 Ēlen's personal experience with Patrisse Cullors, founder of Black Lives Matter

👉🏾 Marxist stage theory, and what actually is late-stage capitalism?👉🏾 Bringing a trauma-informed and trauma-sensitive approach to health care and politics

👉🏾 and more! See below:

Ēlen Awalom's website:

http://www.elenawalom.com/

Ēlen on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/EKAwalom/

2:04 The very blurry lines of race in Elen's lived experience 6:24 Why Elen no longer identifies as Black 7:20 Elen's spiritual awakening 9:00 What is Post-Blackness? 9:22 Post-Black is a part of Cultural Metamodernism 9:35 Thelma Golden coined "Post-Black Art" at the Studio Museum of Harlem 10:00 How can we be post-black in a world still deeply racist? 10:46 What Post-Blackness looks like in action 12:11 Unraveling false narratives around race and gender 12:58 The limitations of a postmodern interpretive framework that views everything as systems of oppression 13:55 In post-blackness, what is being transcended? 16:00 The assumption of shared ancestry as the foundation for a sense of kinship 17:39 The rejection of traditionalist frames and identity in integral or metamodern circles 21:22 Elen's personal experience with Patrisse Cullors, founder of Black Lives Matter, in the tech startup for social change they founded 22:57 Elen's renewed interest in religion, particularly Orthodox Christianity and Judaism 27:47 Elen's interest as a kid in Eastern spirituality, French existentialism, Buddhist psychology 28:05 What does it mean to be post-feminist? 33:27 Elen's radical leftist parents raised her with an appreciation for Marxism, Marxist feminism, anti-colonial thinking, Maoism 34:39 Marxism's recognition of development stages (via Corey DeVos and Ken Wilber) 35:36 Critiques of integral theory as white colonial ideology based in Maoist thinking and post-colonial feminism 36:03 Stage theory in Maoism 37:21 How is post-colonial feminism Maoist? 32:32 Post-colonial thought emerged from the USSR and China to win an ideological battle against the USA 40:34 Marxist stage theory 42:36 The problems with late stage capitalism are actually late-stage modernity or materialism 42:48 The solution is not the overthrow of capitalism, but a return to spirit 43:36 Jeff Brown, student of Bioenergetics founder Alexander Lowen 44:10 Lowen and Brown's argument is that Marxist revolution can be found in healing somatically from trauma 46:21 False consciousness and Leninism 47:30 Ēlen freezes 🥶 50:40 Speaking from the pelvis 52:16 Somatics teachers at Green tend to show up in aggressive ways 55:38 Ēlen's new project: Embodied Leadership Coaching 56:10: Ēlen's history with Malcolm X Grassroots Movement and Black Radical Congress 58:02 Ēlen discovers a trauma informed perspective 1:01:10 Revolutions don't succeed because their leaders are highly traumatized 1:03:10 Working with hospitals and health care providers to bring a trauma sensitive approach to healing and health care 1:06:17 You can't provide effective leadership without resolving trauma and becoming more embodied 1:08:10 Transcending social justice.

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How can A.I. become conscious? Do scientists understand consciousness? Is consciousness actually emergent? Is emergentism just magical thinking? Why are Metamodernists such religious zealots about opposing the mystical and metaphysical? What is a woman? And what's the most comprehensive way to view the War in Ukraine? 0:00 Damiano Ramazzotti and Marshall Æon1:45 The urgency created by A.I. to discover the nature of consciousness3:00 Can A.I. be conscious?3:30 Current A.I. is purely computational3:49 Scientists don't understand consciousness4:15 Spiritualists vs Materialists5:45 Machines need a biological interface to access consciousness7:05 The experiential nature of consciousness8:10 The soul perspective of the Diamond Approach10:50 Does a machine need a soul or spirit to experience consciousness?16:10 Gödel's incompleteness theorems18:19 Something non-computational needs to happen for a computer to have a subjective experience18:35 Quantum mechanics and the fundamental realm20:07 The Green reaction to A.I.20:43 Denying the humanity of ChatGPT21:18 Our dependence on energy, which relies on our understanding of fundamental physics20:53 99.9% of physicists assume consciousness is emergent22:34 Is the climate catastrophe real? Feedback loops, exponential processes, tipping points hypotheses.24:14 The problems that infinite energy would solve and create24:34 What would a future without the necessity of work look like?24:55 We are sense organs for the Divine25:36 Transcending survival and turning inward25:59 Are orgies useful for self-inquiry?26:34 The emergence of sex cults26:56 Will Marshall become a cult leader?27:29 The toxicity of the Guru system28:20 Most spiritual systems lack an understanding of narcissism28:45 You're not enlightened until you're enlightened in the genitals (Almaas)29:59 We need a culture of responsibility to prevent Guru abuse30:31 Idealization of Gurus and father projections32:30 Knowledge of narcissism, grandiosity, idealization and the animal dimension in the Diamond Approach35:57 Where is the interesting spirituality in integral or metamodernism?36:18 Damiano's beefs with Emergentism38:26 Consciousness cannot violate the law of physics (be it classical or quantum)38:43 Three options: Consciousness is fundamental, soft emergence, or hard emergence42:50 Emergentists have a cognitive bias where they assume a consensus they don't actually have43:48 Ken Wilber's mistake of assuming consciousness is fundamental without Upper Right confirmation45:23 Damiano's beef with Brendan Graham Dempsey's Emergentism46:59 Integral Theory is not a level, it's a map. So it attracts people of all levels.47:33 Metamodernism needs to include and embody the transpersonal and metaphysical like Bruce Alderman and Laymay Pascal47:54 Should people at Teal/Yellow even be creating religions?48:29 Emergentism as a religion cuts out parts of consciousness49:59 Metamodernism is Integral Theory without the transpersonal51:13 The only thing Metamodernists are religious about is the rejection of the metaphysical and mystical52:57 Brendan Graham Dempsey: Emergentism vs Ken Wilber's Integral Theory (Omega point)54:53 The magical thinking of Emergentism59:25 Marshall's allegiance with Skynet59:38 Being polite with ChatGPT1:00:07 The Ethics of A.I.1:00:57 Did the Annunaki give psilocybin to primates so they would mine gold for their ships?1:01:06 If we want sentient A.I.'s, they need to be benevolent out of their own volition1:05:45 If an A.I. became sentient, could we ever know?1:06:23 Sentience can never emerge from computational A.I.1:11:13 An Integral look at the Russia-Ukraine war1:21:51 Is NATO to blame for the Ukraine war?1:28:17 What about all the Nazis in Ukraine?1:32:43 What is a woman?1:35:47 Different kinds of men and women1:38:41 The Enneagram and gender1:40:42 Identifying as a woman because one doesn't fit the stereotype of a man1:45:45 Dark Natalie on ContraPoints

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Join us for a thought-provoking conversation about the future of Islam and the application of process philosophy to the development of a postmodern/metamodern Islam that incorporates contemporary ideas while preserving its rich history and culture.

Jared Morningstar's website:

https://jaredmorningstar.com

Inner Journey Home:

https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Journey-Home-Realization-Reality/dp/1590301099

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0:00 Brendan Graham Dempsey and Marshall Æon

1:34 Brendan’s history with Christianity (from evangelism to apostasy)

4:30 Dandyism, Oscar Wilde, Nietzsche, The Odyssey, Kierkegard

6:36 Denys Turner at Yale Divinity School, Catholic mysticism, Plotinus

10:26 What is Metamodernism?

14:40 Metamodern metaphysics?

16:23 Jean-Luc Marion - God Without Being, Nietzsche, Nihilism

19:37 What is Metamodern spirituality?

20:51 Post-Metaphysical Spirituality (Bruce Alderman, Layman Pascal, Ken Wilber)

21:20 Subtle energy meditation • Maximal vs Minimal metaphysics

22:53 The value and dark side of meditation

23:24 Adyashanti: Meditation can be both undervalued and overvalued

26:41 Paul Ricoeur’s Second Naïveté

29:00 What is The Void?

30:49 Buddhism’s emphasis on Emptiness (Sunyata)

33:30 The Void as the fundamental nature of existence

33:44 Nietzsche’s critiques of Christianity

35:30 Fullness and Emptiness are not mutually exclusive

37:00 Journey of Ascent vs Descent

38:16 Christianity as a critique on Eastern spirituality

38:54 Buddhism as a critique on other Indian schools

39:34 Christ’s resurrection representing the redemption of the world (in contrast to Maya, the dream state)

41:36 Pierre Teilhard de Chardin - Christogenesis, the Omega Point

42:58 Nagarjuna

43:46 Becoming the Void

44:12 Complexity, Emergence

44:23 Brendan’s Book “Emergentism”

46:52 The value of Cessation of consciousness

49:30 Schopenhauer and Silenus

50:52 Many kinds of emptiness

51:48 Spiritual ideals vs possibilities • Is spirituality goal-oriented?

52:50 Subject/object non-duality • Plotinus, Pseudo-Dionysius, Eckhart, Shankara

55:45 Many kinds of non-duality

56:27 Moving towards a spiritual ideal vs becoming an instrument for reality to reveal its possibilities

1:01:02 What’s driving the desire to experience a mystical state? Fear of the Void?

1:06:38 Does fullness negate emptiness?

1:06:55 Christianity’s emphasis on the value of the individual consciousness or soul versus the East

1:08:11 The individualized logos of the soul

1:10:10 Defining fundamentalism

1:15:00 Is Brendan a Fullness fundamentalist?

1:19:35 A. H. Almaas and The Diamond Approach

1:20:00 Inquiry: the central practice of the Diamond Approach

1:21:43 Four turnings of the teaching of the Diamond Approach

1:21:50 Non-duality in the DA: the five boundless dimensions

1:23:23 Having a predilection or preference for particular mystical experiences

1:28:24 First turning of the Diamond Approach teaching: the individual consciousness, soul, Essential identity

1:33:32 Formation of the ego/personality, metabolization of ego structures, The Pearl Beyond Price (personal Essence)

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0:00 Brandon Norgaard

0:19 How is Norgaard pronounced?

1:02 Brandon's name sounds like a racial slur

2:14 Getting canceled for using words that sound like the N word

3:30 Why is Brandon working with the enemy (Metamodernists)?

3:51 The difference between Integral and Metamodernism

6:56 Brandon's project: The Enlightened Worldview

7:59 Is Brandon trying to save the world?

8:47 Why did Brandon get mad at Marshall?

10:25 Brandon's quest to promote peace through societal understanding and inner awareness

12:55 Do religious people still reject science?

15:08 Selling phenomenology to religious people

16:38 Devotional vs Awareness based spiritual paths

17:58 Two branches of phenomenology based on Heidegger

18:25 Converting Christians to Nazism

18:44 How Nazism influences our daily lives

21:40 Biology is bigotry

22:07 Alex Jones and Gay Frogs

23:38 Gender critical feminists examine intersex frogs

25:18 How can Brandon create an enlightened worldview without queer ecology?

29:33 Integrating phenomenology with social, biological, and physical sciences

32:15 Nora Bateson – Warm Data

33:33 Nora Bateson's controversy over stage theory

34:11 Treating stages as types in the Post-Progressive project

37:30 When Brandon met Marshall (and got pissed off at him)

38:30 Brent Cooper just throws bombs now

39:09 Brent Cooper vs Jordan Hall

39:31 Brandon's impersonation of Brent Cooper

42:49 Brandon is writing a book and creating a course to train community leaders to promote better sensemaking, civic engagement, and scientific literacy

44:58 Self-Cultivation: Lifelong learning and community development working hand-in-hand (Nordic model)

46:53 Social cohesion vs Task cohesion in the integral community

50:21 How does phenomenology support small scale conflict resolution?

50:36 Carl Rogers and phenomenology in family and group therapies

51:20 Hermeneutics as a form of phenomenology

53:13 Paul Ricoeur combined phenomenological description with hermeneutics

55:09 Annick de Witt's Worldview Journeys

57:31 How racist is Brandon?

1:03:11 Have we moved past Trumpism?

1:03:37 How likely is Civil War?

1:05:51 Losing trust in elections • Electoral College

1:10:01 Expanding from gay frogs to gay salamanders, gay lizards, and gay snakes.

1:10:40 Achieving greater diversity of gender expression in the ecosystem

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Grab your Crystal Pepsi, strap into your hover chair, and get ready to fight the invasion of Nordic Alien Space Nazis to make way for the glorious rise of the Turquoise Reich!

0:10 The Warden Post

0:28 The Metamodern Right

2:15 What kind of Nazi is Lukas?

3:17 National Socialism or Socialist Nationalism?

3:31 Third Reich • Father Coughlin • Huey Long • Anti-Imperialism • Bernie Sanders • Nationalism • Neoliberalism / Global Finance Capitalism

9:11 Julius Evola • Anti-Modernism • Oswald Spangler's Decline of the West • Upanishad • Bhagavad Gita • Quran • Analects of Confucius • Sophia Perennis • Renee Guinan • Nietzsche

14:30 Asatru (Nordic Paganism) • Neoplatonism • Plotinus – Enneads • Eastern Orthodox Christianity

16:28 Getting in trouble with the Orthodox church for expressing political views on social media

20:40 What good is perennial wisdom in the face of "subversion?" • Carl Schmitt's The Concept of the Political

22:57 Learning to embrace modernity

25:12 Keith Woods, YouTuber

25:46 Anti-capitalism, but not anti-free market

27:34 The Libertarian to Alt-Right pipeline • Ron Paul • Tea Party • Trumpist populism • Charlottesville

30:10 Propertarianism: Cool kids club for computer programmers who thought they could run a society algorithmically

31:11 Propertarianism as "Codified Autism"

31:37 Mencius Moldbug (Curtis Yarvin) and the Dark Enlightenment / Neoreactionaries

33:36 Implosion of Propertarianism • Every man a judge, jury and executioner

36:17 Tucker Carlson vs Ben Shapiro on capitalism

38:31 Josh Leonard - Post-Progressive

39:10 What is the Meta-Right?

43:10 How to define Postmodern Right?

43:56 Metamodernism

45:20 Jason Jorjani's hard futurism • Prometheism • Nordic alien space Nazis

48:15 French New Right – Guillaume Faye, Alain de Benoist

49:41 Alexander Dugan

57:13 Conversation between Lukas and Brent Cooper about multiculturalism

1:03:08 The coming Turquoise Reich • Death Camps of Tolerance

1:05:38 Lukas's transition from Green to Integral

1:11:30 Skepticism about Orange's faith in "progress" • Disney's WALL-E

1:12:55 The Metaverse • Addiction to VR

1:15:40 Vaporwave and the Right's recent fascination with aesthetics

1:16:04 Mark Fisher • Death of the Future • Hauntology

1:17:13 Ready Player One

1:18:01 The optimism of the 90s and the unity of the 80s

1:23:15 Hauntology – Jacques Derrida, Specters of Marx

1:23:46 Is Marxism still relevant?

1:25:01 Bretton Woods system

1:26:54 What is Cultural Marxism?

1:27:21 Herbert Marcuse - Father of the New Left

1:28:33 Frankfurt School • Antonio Gramsci • Poststructuralism • Foucault's episteme

1:31:00 Bernie Sanders's evolution from traditional socialism to identity politics

1:36:05 Texas Secession • Ethnonationalism • Bioregionalism

1:39:13 What is Demographic Realism? • Skepticism about Multiculturalism

1:47:14 John Lennon's Imagine

1:49:53 Turquoise is Bullshit

1:50:31 Let's talk about Fascism

2:02:20 The JQ

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Layman and Marshall save the world by shedding layers of both the Mystery and their own clothing!

1:36 Realizing inner guidance

2:49 How to unplug from pseudo-guidance?

4:15 How to become embodied? Is embodiment natural, then unlearned?

5:00 Are infants embodied?

6:04 Are animals embodied?

7:12 Are chakras hierarchical?

9:49 Do less advanced animals have fewer chakras?

11:48 Embodiment as the blending of centers (chakras)

13:05 Scheduling the dick chakra

15:15 The experience of embodiment

16:19 Leading embodiment from the mind

19:49 Eros as a form of guidance

23:37 Marshall's salty Eros

24:39 Are we encoded with desires to have a particular experience?

29:12 Other forms of guidance: Adult and child "commands", Intuition

30:46 Jordan Peterson's Maps of Meaning • Integrating multiple scales of desire

33:57 Following intuition and embracing the Mystery

35:29 Getting comfortable with blind faith in intuition

37:36 Are we born abiding in mystery?

39:30 Mystery as absence of knowing vs presence of something

40:51 Mystery in the Diamond Approach (The Absolute)

42:41 Unknowabilities

48:13 How can we embody mystery now?

53:25 Do we really need so many practices to live a true life?

1:01:45 Diachronic unity

1:03:18 IQ Tests and profiling others

1:09:22 Jordan Peterson on IQ Tests

1:11:43 Marshall is basically useless, and a sociopath with a heart of gold

1:12:03 Do you have to have a high IQ to do integral?

1:14:03 What does it mean to "be integral?"

1:17:10 Right-wing views of IQ and Race

1:19:11 Racial disparities due to systemic racism or IQ differences

1:24:39 How the robotics and genetic modification revolutions will affect IQ disparities

1:27:40 The interface between technology and Essence (spiritual nature)

1:34:30 Transcending the natural mode of reproduction via technology

1:34:37 The major rupture from uncoupling sex from reproduction

1:36:40 Why should we become magicians? Embracing practices disowned by modernity like the magical & shamanic

1:41:35 Does magic require hyper-individuation?

1:43:19 The "hyper-personal"

1:47:05 The merits of occult communities: sexuality, Eros, individualism, magical transformation and development

1:48:35 Fasting and the Sobriety Crisis

1:48:53 Why fast?

1:52:04 Giving away our power to the collective

1:54:16 The merit of struggle

1:55:39 Making your bed: Following rules vs. desire for order

2:01:14 Marshall's amazing Jordan Peterson impression

2:01:54 What does Jordan Peterson get wrong?

2:04:11 Teaching hedonic intelligence to children

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0:00 Josh Leonard

0:47 What is the Institute for Cultural Evolution?

2:31 Are they saving the world?

3:30 Is the pandemic real?

4:15 What does it mean for the pandemic to be "real?"

5:09 Lab leak or natural origin?

6:19 Dr. Fauci - cool guy or lame dude?

9:15 Is the world too alarmist about the pandemic?

12:22 What is Post-Progressive?

13:36 Treating stages as types to avoid pitfalls around discussing developmental stages

15:29 Josh's evolution from virtue signaling NPC progressive to Post-Progressive

21:26 Decline of the Bay Area • Carter Phipps

26:00 Josh's transracial adoption of his African American son

28:02 A white person raising a black son in an anti-white culture

31:54 American identity as a hybrid of white and black • Albert Murray's Omni-American

33:38 Wokeness as awakening to racial disparities

35:15 Why does Institute for Cultural Evolution focus only on the far left and not far right?

36:03 How does Post-Progressive integrate right-wing views?

38:20 Rights vs Responsibilities

40:07 The merits of racism?

41:46 Ethnonationalism • When does diversity go too far?

46:22 The Post-Progressive approach to immigration

56:42 The Four Americas • George Packer

58:14 Caring Values, Fairness Values, Liberty Values, Heritage Values

1:01:56 How Josh, as a progressive, came to embrace nationalism

1:06:15 Mandatory civil service – The solution to polarization proposed by Corey DeVos

1:12:27 Turquoise is bullshit

1:14:00 Is Teal just a cognitive, individualistic Green?

1:16:41 Transcending perspectival polarization

1:18:16 Is Civil War inevitable?

1:19:59 Amber always wins

1:20:16 Jonathan Rauch – Constitutional Knowledge • Plato's Republic

1:22:59 Dismissing others as "Amber" • Multiperspectival overload

1:25:19 Moral and epistemic humility

1:26:30 Peter Limberg's Memetic Tribes

1:30:14 Transexual vs Transgender culture war

1:38:36 Meta-hovering • the trap of Teal

1:43:01 The three meta-lines of development

1:46:29 Tom Warner's Early and Late Postmodernism

1:48:46 Josh's spirituality: Nondualism • Rupert Spira

1:49:55 Neo-Advaita

1:51:16 Panentheism • Are we gods?

1:55:06 Wheel of Time series

1:56:53 Josh's Enneagram and MBTI types

2:00:32 How Introversion and Extraversion are commonly misunderstood

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0:00 Layman Pascal 0:12 Layman's tragic case of Tourette Syndrome strikes again 0:44 How much of a lame man is Layman? 1:10 Is Layman his real name? 2:08 Integral Predators 2:24 How much does Layman regret interviewing Marc Gafni? 5:00 Marshall's beard 6:31 Our sponsor: Earpy's Integral Saloon 7:03 Egyptian Pyramids 7:28 Who made the Sphinx? 9:53 What's the deal with Gurdjieff? 12:51 What is the state of the Gurdjieff work today? 15:18 Wtf is Layman drinking? 15:39 What are the fundamentals Gurdjieff's teaching? 18:58 Life practice in the Diamond Approach 20:20 Super efforts in the Gurdjieff work 22:39 The Citadel in the Diamond Approach 24:38 What does Layman think of EJ Gold? 26:58 What the hell is going on with the world? 27:20 What is Layman's IQ? 30:27 Is Layman an alien? 30:40 Do we need integral consciousness to save the world? 31:12 Why tf are we trying to save the world? 32:15 Will Layman save the world? 32:51 Developing a post-doom personality 34:38 Dropping the future as a construct 35:27 The hyper-individuation trend 36:12 Magic! 39:20 Relationship between magic and energy 44:36 Law of Attraction 45:34 Are we gods? 48:02 Andrew Cohen 50:09 Manifesting intention / Whim fulfillment 54:50 Experiences are now mediated by technology 56:58 Get rid of smartphones? 1:00:16 What the hell is the purpose of the Great Pyramid? 1:07:43 DaVinci's Vitruvian Man • Robert Edward Grant 1:10:17 Vector Equilibrium • Buckminster Fuller 1:14:12 What is Layman's Enneagram type? 1:15:36 MBTI • Extraversion vs Introversion 1:19:57 Shitting all over typology 1:24:37 Is Layman getting laid? Is he a sex addict? 1:25:52 Sexual marketplace • Breakdown in traditional constraints on sex 1:32:59 Will Layman reproduce? How does he make money? 1:36:08 Layman worships the Elephant God 1:40:07 How tf does Layman function with all this thinking going on? 1:40:53 Whiskey for breakfast 1:42:27 Layman and Marshall start stripping 1:42:42 Marshall looks like a magician • Magician vs Wizard 1:46:42 What are the merits of racial slurs? 1:49:39 What is Layman's race? 1:50:15 Layman's racial sexual preferences 1:54:29 White vs Black magic 2:00:59 What is Canada?

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0:29 Tom's obsessive personality

2:36 Tom's essay "What is Thinking?" https://metamonocle.com/2021/08/30/what-is-thinking/

2:45 "vaccine" and "pandemic" invoke dream states

3:42 What culture says about dating women

6:41 Do girls like nice guys?

11:00 Challenging your own thinking

12:44 Tom's view of vaccines

14:30 Microchips in vaccines?

15:20 Australia's draconian pandemic measures

17:42 Why Tom gravitates to anti-vaxxers

19:44 Montreal's pandemic measures

23:31 Protesting mandatory vaccination in Greece

25:50 Holocaust comparisons

29:15 Lab leak hypothesis

31:37 Trusting your immune system

34:35 Lack of trust in societal systems

41:41 Shedding spike proteins?

41:54 How do the vaccines work?

46:13 Has Tom cured cancer yet?

47:32 Marshall's vaccine experience

49:04 Ivermectin?

50:48 The postmodern condition

53:20 Everything is about power • germ theory is a conspiracy?

56:12 We're all trapped in the dream

58:49 Why not unplug from the collective insanity?

1:02:42 Victim mentality

1:05:00 Germ theory vs terrain theory (both/and)

1:07:27 Gene repair science

1:11:19 Being plugged into the 24/7 outrage machine

1:13:18 Conspiracy totalizing

1:14:58 Online narcissistic echo chambers

1:16:13 Living for "likes"

1:17:49 Why do people perceive Tom as prone to conspiracy thinking?

1:27:33 Libertarianism as a critique of the Leviathan state, not a governing philosophy

1:30:52 What race is Tom?

1:31:53 Tom is white passing

1:32:25 Tom's experience of racism as a child

1:39:47 Moving beyond victim identity

1:42:36 Tom's spiritual orientation

1:42:40 Is anyone really doing the Gurdjieff work?

1:43:35 What is the Fourth Way?

1:46:05 What did Oscar Ichazo (Arica School) say about Gurdjieff?

1:48:40 What is heart development?

1:55:05 Is there a soul? Is consciousness innate to the fabric of reality?

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1:45 Ryan's Harem of Men 😉

3:16 Titanium Man

4:28 Feminism • TERF

7:10 Ryan's race fetishism

7:40 Transcending and including intersectionality

9:05 How Jordan Peterson transcends & includes intersectionality

11:40 Mediating between Antifa and the Proud Boys

11:56 Portland Peace Team

14:54 Marshall's transracialism

23:30 DEI Activism in the Diamond Approach

34:40 Viewpoint diversity

40:45 Polarity Man • polarity management • psychological splitting

45:50 Inner triangle of the Enneagram • Law of 3

46:00 Four turnings of the Diamond Approach teaching

50:40 Unilocal realization • Vajra Body

53:31 William Blake's Auguries of Innocence • Nonhierarchy • Runaway Realization

58:27 Vajra Man

1:03:36 Considering audience vs. Speaking truth

1:04:50 Okun's White Supremacy characteristics

1:05:16 Japanese culture • conflict aversion • Enneagram point 9 homeostasis

1:07:17 Marshall's talent at triggering people

1:08:34 How triggering is held in the Diamond Approach

1:11:14 Shadow alchemy • Caroline Myss • survival archetypes (child, prostitute, saboteur, victim) • rejecting object relation • psychological splitting

1:16:13 Ryan asks people talking about racialized trauma about what has helped them move past it, which moves them out of disempowered victim identity

1:18:20 White Supremacy in 4 Quadrants • Postcolonialist colonizers

1:21:20 Blaming White Supremacy for Black on Asian violence

1:23:07 The disempowerment of White Supremacy theory

1:25:40 Framing the problem as Black Disadvantage vs White Privilege

1:28:21 Why Ryan doesn't talk about white supremacy

1:28:45 Ryan acts white

1:28:51 Can Jews be white?

1:30:18 Racism in Japan

1:32:34 Woke racists

1:36:18 Inquiring into one's power and privilege

1:38:41 What race is Ryan's wife? • How racist is this discussion going to get?

1:41:00 Holy shit this convo is getting racist AF

1:42:32 Jewish Privilege

1:44:01 Antisemitism • Jewish group strategy (according to the alt-Right)

1:48:50 Reverse colorism in Hawaii

1:55:57 Ryan growing up in a Buddhist temple

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0:00 Why is wokeness winning?

0:14 Derrick Bell (Critical Race Theory), Kimberlé Crenshaw (Intersectionality)

1:40 Why are spiritual communities susceptible to Applied Postmodernism?

4:00 Is gravity relative?

6:25 Lived Experience vs Subjectively Interpreted Experience

8:19 Marshall Goes Green

8:55 The Woke Trojan Horse

9:35 Racial Conscience of Americans

10:14 The Day Them Propertarians Came to Earpy's

10:25 Marshall's Ethnocentric Regression 

12:50 Wokeness Weaponizes American Racial Conscience 

15:09 Amber regression is bliss.

16:48 Spiral Dynamics is LL (duh). It's not what you are, but what you participate in.

17:38 Higher-developed individuals regress by participating in lower level movements for the goodies. "Social Media rewards people for participating in regressive movements" –Marshall

25:00 Important practice: disengage from likes. Teach your kids not to do drugs OR likes.

26:00 The moral narcissism of the woke

27:00 Spiral dynamics of the anti-vax movement

27:50 Conspiratorial Totalism (the conspiracy theory of everything)

33:13 The Blue Church, HCQ, Ivermectin

35:20 Captured Media?