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For today’s episode, Dr. Ross and I discuss with Christian his experiences and lessons learned during his first year as a father. Listeners will walk away with the real and fresh wisdom to help new and expectant fathers. As a recent empty nester, what Christian shared warmed my heart and made for a better day. A new or expectant father or not, you will enjoy this episode.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:46 You recently became a dad. What has surprised you the most about fatherhood so far?
04:39 What has been the biggest adjustment mentally, emotionally, or physically since becoming a parent?
10:34 What’s been your favorite part of becoming a dad so far?
12:24 How has becoming parents changed the dynamic between you and your wife?
14:51 What conversations do you now realize couples should have before having children?
18:25 What are some small things husbands can do during the newborn stage that make a huge difference for their partner?
22:28 What’s one thing you wish more men understood about supporting their wives after childbirth?
27:25 What kind of father do you hope your child describes you as someday?
28:20 Were there any past Modern Husbands Podcast episodes that unexpectedly helped prepare you for fatherhood?
30:32 What’s one message you want new or expecting fathers listening to this episode to hear?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as a Certified Financial Therapist, Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today we welcome Dr. Mikel Van Cleve. Mikel earned his Ph.D. in Personal Financial Planning at Texas Tech University, where he specialized in blended family financial dynamics. His research deepens our understanding of how complex family structures, particularly blended families, achieve financial well-being. In this episode, we unpack why estate planning is especially critical for blended families, the emotional conversations couples often avoid and offer practical advice for navigating fairness, conflict, and long-term financial decisions as a family. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:47 Can you share a little bit about your Ph.D. focus with our listeners?
02:53 Where does your passion for this topic come from?
06:18 Why is estate planning so important for blended families?
09:22 What happens if they don’t set things up the right way?
19:39 What tips would you give blended families to ensure they address this critical area of financial planning and do it the right way?
24:46 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today’s episode is part two of a two part episode on Empowering Men to Partner or Lead at Home. Today’s guests are Eve Rodsky, Dr. Kate Mangino, and Dr. Allison Daminger.

Dr. Kate Mangino is the author of Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home, a field guide to evolving masculinity and domestic partnership.

Eve Rodsky is the author of Fair Play and creator of the viral Fair Play system, a revolutionary method for dividing household responsibilities with clarity and fairness.
Dr. Allison Daminger is a sociologist at the University of Wisconsin and author of What’s On Her Mind, which dives deep into cognitive labor—the planning, tracking, and decision-making that often goes unseen.

Enjoy part two of our special two part series. We will pick up where we left off. Enjoy the episode.

00:00 Introduction
01:06 Can you share some of your favorite success stories of couples using the Fair Play method and men, in particular, experiencing a boost in their own happiness and relationship satisfaction?
07:05 What are some subtle ways men have shifted from delegating to initiating mental labor in a home?
13:50 What do you say to skeptics who think "this work should just come naturally"?
17:08 What are the bumps in the road that men often experience employing the Fair Play method, and how do they work through them with their partners?
23:31 What cognitive labor traps do you see highly educated or dual-career couples falling into, and how can they work through them?
28:41 How can we prevent the motherhood penalty from occurring in our relationships?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today’s episode is part one of a two part episode on Empowering Men to Partner or Lead at Home. Today’s guests are Eve Rodsky, Dr. Kate Mangino, and Dr. Allison Daminger.

Dr. Kate Mangino is the author of Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home, a field guide to evolving masculinity and domestic partnership.
Eve Rodsky is the author of Fair Play and creator of the viral Fair Play system, a revolutionary method for dividing household responsibilities with clarity and fairness.
Dr. Allison Daminger is a sociologist at the University of Wisconsin and author of What’s On Her Mind, which dives deep into cognitive labor—the planning, tracking, and decision-making that often goes unseen.

Enjoy part one of our special two part series.

00:00 Introduction
01:08 What does it mean for a man to lead at home?
What does it mean for men to lead at home today, and why can labeling it as women’s work be such a toxic label?
07:55 For those who are unfamiliar, can you describe the Fair Play system?
17:39 Your book explores the thinking work that drives a household. What examples can you share of men who shoulder an equitable or lion’s share of this type of labor, and what has allowed them to break the norm?
23:43 Can you share an example from Equal Partners of a man redefining provide in a powerful way?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

For today’s episode, Christian and I discuss with Dr. Ross his experiences and lessons learned during his first year as a husband. Listeners will walk away with the real and fresh wisdom to help new and soon to be husbands. Dr. Ross is one of the leading academics in this area, and his insights are an excellent balance between lessons learned from science, and from his first hand experiences. A new or soon to be husband or not, you will enjoy this episode.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:35 Tell us about your wedding and the research behind divorce and wedding costs
07:43 What has been the biggest adjustment in day-to-day life since getting married?
10:34 What has been your favorite part of married life so far?
11:48 What household systems or routines have helped your relationship function well?
15:21 What does being a supportive partner actually look like in everyday life?
18:12 How do you and your wife stay connected when life gets busy?
26:04 What relationship skill do you think deserves far more attention than it gets?

relationships #marriages

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s guest is Dr. Sheehan Fisher, an Associate Professor at Northwestern University, with a research specialization in understanding mothers and fathers unique contributions to the family and child health. In our conversation, Dr. Fisher discusses the dynamics of parenting, particularly focusing on the roles of fathers and the societal pressures faced by mothers. The discussion also highlights strategies for teamwork in parenting and how to navigate life transitions while maintaining relationship satisfaction. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:13 Can you share a bit about your family?
02:03 As a dad yourself, how has your personal experience influenced your professional focus?
06:41 What do you want fathers to understand about a privilege they have as being a father, and how are women judged upon?
10:11 What strategies help fathers manage stress while balancing work, parenting, and personal wellbeing?
11:44 What role does self-care play in effective parenting and partnership?
12:51 What’s one evidence-based practice you’d recommend for couples who feel overwhelmed by daily life stressors?
16:27 What have you learned about how the mental load and household responsibilities affect relationship satisfaction?
18:07 How can parents communicate about non-visible labor (like emotional or planning work)?
23:55 What tools or frameworks do you recommend for parents to strengthen teamwork during challenging life transitions?
26:00 How can parents check in with each other emotionally without turning it into a confrontation?
27:11 What can parents do today to ensure both individuals feel equally supported, seen, and heard?
29:08 Where can our listeners learn more about you?
30:05 If you had to give one piece of advice to every parent listening about shared responsibility and partnership, what would it be?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today is part two of a two part series on money, masculinity, and equity at home. For today’s episode we will pick up where we left off in our conversation with Will and Ellie Windle.

As a reminder, Will Windle is an MMA fighter and EMT and Ellie Windle Founder and Chairperson of Persist. They have busted through the gender norms that can suffocate the space they both need to grow in their careers and work as teammates to manage their home and be parents. They share practical advice for couples navigating economic realities, emotional labor, and parenting together. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
00:48 Will, what would you say to men who want to step up at home but feel unsure, unprepared, or like they’re breaking from how they were raised?
4:43 Ellie, many women feel exhausted and hopeless about imbalance. What message of realistic hope would you want them to hear from your story?
8:07 Ellie, where can listeners learn more about Persist and how to rethink mental load as a couple?
14:58 Will, what is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave men with?
19:48 Ellie, what is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave men with?

Persist Free Careload Assessment: https://www.timeforpersist.com/free-careload-assessment

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today is part one of a two part series on money, masculinity, and equity at home. For today’s episode we welcome Will and Ellie Windle.

Will Windle is an MMA fighter and EMT. Ellie Windle is the Founder and Chairperson of Persist. Together, they have busted through the gender norms that can suffocate the space they both need to grow in their careers and work as teammates to manage their home and be parents.

For today's episode, they share practical advice for couples navigating economic realities, emotional labor, and parenting together. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:38 Will, you’ve lived several “manly” archetypes—firefighter, EMT, MMA fighter, ski patrol, athlete. How did those experiences shape your early ideas about what it meant to be a man, a provider, and a partner?
05:27 Ellie, you said you sometimes fantasize about the Don Draper era because of the “freedom to perform.” What does that reveal about the pressure modern couples carry compared to past generations?
09:15 Will, you went from contributing 50 percent of the household income to 100 percent during Ellie’s startup years. What were the invisible pressures—financial or emotional—that came with being the sole earner for a period of time?
17:26 Ellie, what do you think women sometimes misunderstand about men who are truly trying to lean in at home?
27:05 Conclusion

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Calibrate Founder & CEO Nick Ashburn. Mr. Ashburn is the former Managing Director and Head of Responsible Investing at PNC and former Senior Director at Wharton with 15+ years in human-centered financial services and product strategy.

In this conversation, we discuss the significance of aligning financial goals with personal values, the challenges of lifestyle creep, practical strategies for couples to manage their finances collaboratively, and a framework for evaluating spending decisions. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:18 What inspired you to start Persona Wealth, and how does your approach differ from traditional financial planning firms?
03:39 You talk about helping clients “align money with purpose.” What does that mean for couples trying to merge their financial lives?
04:59 What’s one mistake you often see couples make when trying to apply cookie-cutter financial advice?
07:23 How do you help dual-income households navigate financial decisions when one partner is more financially savvy—or simply more interested—than the other?
15:40 Many couples argue about money. In your experience, what role does financial planning play in reducing that tension?
18:40 What’s your advice to couples struggling with lifestyle creep, especially when both partners are progressing in their careers?
25:31 How do you incorporate behavioral finance principles when advising couples with very different money mindsets?
28:35 What strategies have you found to be most helpful in managing money as a team in your marriage?
32:24 What’s one actionable step a couple could take today to feel more aligned financially and emotionally?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

We have three incredible leaders joining us for today’s special edition. Dr. David Smith of the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School and author of Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace, Dr. Corinne Low who teaches at Penn’s Wharton School and author of Having It All, and Paul Sullivan – Founder of The Company of Dads and former NYT columnist.

This conversation explores the concept of allyship, particularly in the context of the workplace and home. It emphasizes the importance of understanding and addressing gender roles, the division of labor in dual-career families, and the impact of parenting on career trajectories.

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Jonathan Kolmetz, one of just 50 professionals in the U.S. licensed in both finance and mental health. We’ll explore how money, sex, and attachment patterns intersect in marriage—and how couples can build deeper connections, break negative cycles, and manage their home and money as a true team. Jonathan also shares practical ways to navigate financial stress, keep intimacy alive, and even bring more fun and play into your relationship. But we must get started today by talking about the world’s greatest sport for middle-aged men: pickleball. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
03:40 Before we get to the practical takeaways from the episode, let’s talk about why Pickleball is the world’s greatest sport for middle-aged folks like us.
12:42 You are one of only 50 professionals licensed in both finance and mental health. How does this unique combination shape the way you help couples with their relationships and money?
18:52 What does a typical non-trauma related sex therapy session look like?
Money and sex are often cited as two of the top stressors in marriage. Why do these topics feel so emotionally charged, and how do they connect at a deeper level?
21:26 You specialize in attachment-based therapy. How do attachment styles influence how couples manage money, conflict, and intimacy?
26:04 Many couples feel stuck in recurring arguments about money or domestic responsibilities. What steps can they take to break those cycles and respond differently?
32:38 Our views about money often form in childhood. How do those early experiences shape couples’ dynamics at home, and how can they rewrite unhelpful money scripts?
35:36 If a couple is struggling with both money stress and intimacy challenges, what are one or two first steps you recommend they take today to get on the same page?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s episode, we welcome Jennifer Sabatini Fraone, MSW, MBA, former Executive Director for the Boston College Center for Work & Family. Jennifer received her BS in Clinical Psychology from Tufts University and her Master of Social Work and Master of Business Administration from Boston College.

For today’s episode we discuss how organizations, couples, and families can find work life harmony. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction

01:15 Over your years leading the Boston College Center for Work & Family, what major shifts have you seen in how couples balance work and family life?

04:21 What do you think has been the most impactful research the Center has published in its 35 year tenure? (Fatherhood/parental leave/flex)

11:27 What are the biggest stressors you’ve found that high-achieving dual-career couples face today—and how can they navigate them without burning out?

18:40 Your research has explored changing gender norms. How are men’s roles in caregiving and domestic life evolving, and what still needs to change?

22:16 Remote and hybrid work promises flexibility, but often leads to blurred boundaries. What have you learned about how couples can protect personal time while working flexibly?

25:48 If you could redesign the “ideal” workplace for modern families, what would it look like—and how would it reshape the home lives of dual-career couples?

31:08 The Center closed at the end of 2025. How did you prepare for this upcoming transition after this work being an integral part of your life for 20 years?

33:59 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you would like to share with our listeners?

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For today’s episode we welcome Alex Trippier, a dad of three who has been married for 18 years and is the host of the popular podcast, “Be a Happier Parent.” His mission is to help parents connect and grow.

Alex shares insights on parenting, the mental load carried by women, and the dynamics of relationships. He humorously discusses the concept of a 'brain rental fee' charged by his wife for asking where things are, highlighting the often unrecognized mental labor women perform in households. The discussion delves into the importance of humor in communication, the challenges men face with shame and vulnerability, and the insights gained from motherhood literature. The conversation concludes with actionable advice on appreciation and conflict resolution in relationships, emphasizing the need for curiosity and recognition of each other's efforts. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:38 Let’s start with you sharing a bit about yourself and your family?
04:35 Your wife charges you a “brain rental fee?” You’ve gotta tell us about that!
22:01 Why did you start reading motherhood books?
35:25 What are three things you’ve learned from doing the podcast that you wish you’d known earlier in marriage?
42:25 What’s the biggest problem you see caused by inequity in the home?
46:02 What’s the biggest win in your relationship compared to today?
48:03 Where can listeners learn more about you and your podcast?
48:53 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you can leave with our listeners?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today we welcome Dr. Shandra Parks. Dr Parks serves as Board President with the Maryland Council on Problem Grambling and is a Family Involvement Facilitator, Resource Home Worker and is a Field Instructor for MSW students with the University of Maryland, School of Social Work. Dr. Parks provides wellness counseling, financial education as well financial counseling to individuals and families impacted by Disordered gambling.

In this conversation, Dr. Shandra Parks discusses the complexities of gambling addiction, its evolution in the digital age, and the psychological factors that contribute to it. She describes early warning signs, understanding the emotional impact of gambling, and finding a balance between entertainment and addiction.

Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:03 You work with people and families affected by problem gambling every day. When you hear the phrase “gambling addiction,” what do most people get wrong?
03:08 Many people picture casinos or slot machines. How has gambling changed in the last decade, especially with apps, sports betting, and online platforms?
06:01 What are loot boxes?
12:07 Does gambling feel different from other money struggles like overspending or credit card debt? If so, why?
13:19 What are some early warning signs that gambling is becoming unhealthy, even if bills are still getting paid?
20:59 Many people tell themselves “I’m just doing small bets” or “this is entertainment.” Where is the line between entertainment and risk?
25:37 If someone is listening right now and feeling uneasy about their behavior, what is the first step that doesn’t feel overwhelming or shame-filled?
31:03 How should a spouse bring up concerns without triggering defensiveness or shutdown?
34:07 How do you balance compassion for the person struggling with gambling while still protecting yourself financially and emotionally?
37:00 How long does recovery typically take, and what does progress realistically look like?
39:01 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to share with our listeners?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s episode is the second of a three part series: Empowering Men to Partner or Lead at Home: The Mental Load

Today’s guests are Dr. Julie Wayne and Paige Connell.

Dr. Julie Wayne is professor at Wake Forest University. She is a leading scholar on work-family integration and gender equity. Her research uncovers the structural and psychological barriers to balanced partnerships—and how men can take intentional steps to reduce the mental load on their partners.

Paige Connell is a mental load strategist who equips families with clear tools to divide responsibilities fairly and prevent burnout. Her work, which she shares with hundreds of thousands of her followers on social media, translates the “invisible” into systems couples can use to feel more connected, supported, and balanced.

The mental load isn’t just about who does the chores—it’s about who thinks about them. Today we will talk about making invisible labor visible.

Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:31 Can you briefly define mental load, cognitive labor, and the consequences of imbalance?
04:42 Your research has uncovered key psychological barriers to sharing the mental load, can you walk us through them?
10:53 Can you share an example where a couple went from burnout to balance?
24:15: How can men step in and shoulder more at home?
32:04 What do your findings suggest are effective ways to invite men into this space meaningfully?
39:23 What tools or frameworks have been most effective for dividing the “invisible work”?
45:50 What are a few simple tricks couples can use to better work together?
49:24 Can you explain the difference between emotional labor and mental labor, and share which is more taxing and why?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

Today’s podcast is the first of a three part series: Empowering Men to Partner or Lead at Home: When She Earns More.

Today’s guests are Dr. Gary Barker, Ed Coambs, and Melissa Hogenboom.

Dr. Barker is the President and CEO of Equimundo. He is an internationally recognized expert on engaging men and boys in gender equality work.

Ed Coambs is a licensed marriage and family therapist, financial planner, and founder of Healthy Love and Money. He helps couples uncover the emotional roots of money stress, especially in relationships where earning dynamics are unequal.

Melissa Hogenboom is a BBC journalist and author of the book Breadwinners: The Next Chapter of the Fight for Equality, which examines the social and relational impact of female breadwinning.

Our conversation will focus on overcoming the unique challenges and dynamics in female breadwinning relationships.

Enjoy the show.

Questions

00:00 Introduction
01:25 You've worked with families across 40+ countries. What are some universal patterns you see when women become the primary earners?
06:09 In researching your book Breadwinners, what surprised you most about how female earners experience their relationships?
09:00 What are the emotional undercurrents behind money tension when she earns more?
16:22 What advice would you give couples trying to “rewrite the script” when roles flip?
21:15 How can couples begin uncovering and addressing money shame or resentment?
29:26 What cultural shifts do you think are needed—and possible?
32:01 Are the algorithms of social media adding to the belief that it’s “men vs. women” facing today’s challenges?
36:33 What types of men generally embrace relationships that include a female breadwinner, and what can we learn from them?
39:27 What does financial intimacy really look like in these relationships?
41:58 How can female breadwinners make their partners feel valued and loved for who they are?

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A conversation with Emily Bouchard, coauthor of Estate Planning for the Blended Family

Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Emily Bouchard. Emily is a Leadership and Legacy Consultant at a US Bank own firm who specializes in supporting blended families. She also co-authored Estate Planning for the Blended Family and Beginners Guide to Purposeful Prenups.

Today’s discussion centers around estate planning and considerations in blended families. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:05 Can you explain what a blended family is and the different forms of blended families?
02:33 Where does your passion to support blended families come from?
06:00 Why is estate planning particularly important for blended families?
8:46 What are some of the most common financial challenges that blended families face when it comes to estate planning?
13:38 Can you discuss any specific tax considerations that blended families should be aware of when setting up their estate plans?
16:45 How should blended families approach the issue of guardianship to ensure that there are no conflicts among family members?
19:13 Could you explain the benefits of using trusts in estate planning for blended families?
22:53 Could you share any real-life examples that highlight unique solutions or common pitfalls in estate planning for blended families?
24:20: About Emily’s book
26:32 What is the single most important piece of advice you would give to couples in a blended family to ensure their estate planning is successful?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s episode we welcome Laura Danger, a licensed educator, facilitator, and domestic-equity advocate who has collaborated with the Fair Play team and is known on social media as @ThatDarnChat. Her book, No More Mediocre: A Call to Reimagine Our Relationships and Demand More, combines candid interviews, personal stories, and research to expose how unpaid domestic labor — and dynamics like “weaponized incompetence” — shape inequity in relationships.

In today’s conversation we explore the complexities of emotional labor in relationships, the importance of communication, and strategies for creating equitable home systems. Laura also shares insights from her book, emphasizing the need for curiosity and intentionality in relationships, and offers actionable advice for couples seeking to enhance their connection and reduce resentment.

Enjoy the show.

Show Questions

00:00 Introduction

01:53 Let’s start with sharing with the audience a little bit about you and your family.

03:36 In the book, you describe the moment you and Jack realized you were stuck in a loop: you carried the mental load, and he felt unsure how to jump in. What helped you both break that pattern?

06:31 You write about the “Nag Paradox” and how women become narrators of their partner’s tasks. What is the first step for couples stuck in that dynamic?

09:50 Can you define emotional labor and explain why it is so difficult to shoulder?

12:30 You say conflict isn’t something to avoid, but an opportunity for connection and clarity. How can couples begin treating conflict as collaboration?

15:28 You talk about good faith a lot. How can couples distinguish “won’t do” from “doesn’t know how yet?”

20:04 What is weaponized incompetence and can you provide gender stereotypical examples of men and women doing it?

29:55 You and Jack implemented meetings, shared task reviews, and even safe words for stressful conversations. What changes were most transformative?

33:17 Many couples think they need “more help,” when what they actually need is systems.
What does a functional, equitable home system look like in practice?

37:12 Where do you see the most immediate wins for couples who want to reduce resentment and increase connection?

41:08 What would you say to a man who genuinely wants to “do more” but feels overwhelmed or afraid of getting it wrong?

44:08 If every listener could adopt one habit this week to make their relationship less mediocre and more connected, what would it be?

45:00 Where can listeners purchase your book and learn more about you?

Purchase the book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/737921/no-more-mediocre-by-laura-danger/

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Kentaro Fujita, a Professor of Psychology and Director of the Decision Sciences Collaborative at The Ohio State University. He received his Bachelors in Psychology at Harvard College, and his Masters and PhD in Psychology at New York University. He is an expert in motivation, goals, behavior change, and decision-making. Much of his award-winning research explores self-control: that is, who, when, and why do some succeed and others fail at resisting immediate temptations that undermine more distant goals?

We’ll explore how self-control shapes the way couples handle money, divide household responsibilities, and support each other through everyday challenges. Dr. Fujita will share research-backed strategies to strengthen willpower, reduce temptations, and stay focused on the big picture—both individually and as a team. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

Introduction
00:00 Introduction
03:06 You’ve studied self-control extensively. How do you define it, and why is it such an important factor in our daily lives, particularly for couples managing money and household responsibilities?
6:40 The Marshmallow Study
13:05 Many of us think of willpower as simply “trying harder.” From a scientific perspective, what actually fuels or drains our self-control?
17:06 Can we discuss self control hacks with important context?
27:31 The concept of ego depletion suggests self-control is a limited resource. How does this play out in dual-career couples who feel constantly stretched thin by work and home obligations?
31:48 What does your environment look like when you talk about money with your spouse?
35:02 Where can our listeners learn more about you?
35:44: If you could give dual-career couples one or two evidence-based practices to consistently improve their self-control—both individually and as a team—what would they be?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Beth Pinsker, CFP®, financial columnist for Marketwatch and author of My Mother’s Money. Beth shares the critical steps couples should take to prepare for financial caregiving—whether it’s naming a guardian for your kids, planning for your parents’ future, or managing the complex realities of blended families. She also unpacks how to balance caregiving responsibilities with work, retirement goals, and staying connected as a couple. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
04:28 Your book My Mother’s Money is rooted in personal experience. What prompted you to write it, and why is financial caregiving an issue couples need to think about before it becomes a crisis?
07:16 Whether it’s for your kids, your parents, or yourself, what are the key legal and financial documents and considerations couples need to have in place?
13:35 What unique challenges do blended families face with caregiving and inheritance planning, and how can couples protect both their relationships and finances in those situations?
17:10 Caregiving for a spouse’s parent can be especially challenging—sometimes even requiring an in-law to move in. What can couples do to support each other and set healthy boundaries?
21:32 Caregiving can be expensive. How should couples budget and plan for the potential costs, and what resources (including Medicaid) are available to help?
27:54 With the upcoming Medicaid cuts from the Big Beautiful Bill, how might caregiving for parents become more difficult, and what steps can families take now to prepare?
39:18 Where can you go to purchase your book?
39:38 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to share with our listeners today?

To purchase the book: bethpinkser.com

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I provide as an Accredited Financial Counselor and Fair Play Facilitator. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s episode we welcome Dr. Corinne Low, an Associate Professor of Business Economics and Public Policy at the Wharton School. Dr. Low has spoken to top academic institutions such as Harvard University, Stanford University, and Oxford, as well as to organizations like the New York Federal Reserve, Brookings, and the US Department of Labor.

Her research focuses on the economics of gender and discrimination. Her first book, Having It All, is a bestseller, and the focus of today’s conversation.

We discuss the evolving definition of success, emphasizing the need to balance career ambitions with personal fulfillment and lifestyle needs. They challenge the traditional notion of success as merely career maximization, advocating for a more holistic approach that includes financial stability and time management.

Enjoy the show.

Questions

00:00 Introduction

02:45 Your book argues that women’s unhappiness isn’t a result of “trying too little” but of operating within systems that were never designed for them to succeed. What do you see as the biggest structural change that would make dual-career households more sustainable today?

04:27 You write that we should “think like economists” when making life decisions. How can couples apply that mindset at home—when deciding how to divide money, chores, and childcare?

07:23 You describe relationships and careers as “deals” that exchange time, effort, and money for certain payoffs. How can couples assess whether they’re both getting a good deal at home and at work?

17:10 In your research, you’ve found that even when women are the primary breadwinners, they still do more cooking and cleaning. What does the data tell us about why this happens—and what needs to shift culturally for men to truly share the load?

21:43 You’ve written that women’s time constraints are fundamentally different from men’s. How can couples design systems—financial or domestic—that make time equity as real a goal as income equity?

28:48 You challenge the old idea of “having it all.” If we were to redefine success for couples today, what should replace that phrase?

30:41 You’ve said this book is both a guide and a call to action. What do you hope men, in particular, will take away from Having It All about their role in building more equal partnerships?

32:51 What is one simple and actionable step you want listeners to take away from today’s conversation?

https://www.corinnelow.com/: Time Tracking Sheet

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Rhoda Mills Sommer, who has been helping couples for nearly 45 years, and is the host of the podcast, What Healthy Couples Know that You Don't.

Today’s conversation explores the root causes behind money struggles, how to improve problem-solving and communication, and practical strategies for navigating hard conversations—especially around major topics like college expenses and shifting money values. Couples will walk away with tools to foster courage, connection, and clarity in their financial journey together. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:35 What do you believe is underneath the struggles that couples have over money?
03:15 What does it mean to share power?
08:50 What is one big thing that interferes with couples problem solving over money?
11:25 What can help relationships improve their problem solving abilities?
13:38 What is one quality that husbands & wives can both embrace to help financial success move forward?
17:55 What can couples do to find their courage to have conversations about money?
20:20 What can improve hard conversations?
22:29 Your thoughts about spending money for kids on college?
32:55 Would you address money values changing over time?
34:32 What should couples watch out for that can easily derail money conversations?
36:31: Actionable advice for your life

Rhoda Mills Sommer LCSW
Blog & Website: therapyideas.net
Twitter & Instagram: @rhodaoncouples
Podcast: What Healthy Couples Know That You Don't

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Melissa Hogenboom, an award-winning journalist and editor at the BBC who is the author of Breadwinners.

In this episode of the Modern Husbands podcast, we delve into the intricate dynamics of gender roles and economic anxiety. We explore the challenges faced by female breadwinners, the psychological impact of economic instability on men, and the evolving expectations of masculinity. Through insightful discussions, we uncover how societal norms and financial pressures shape relationships and individual well-being. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of these pressing issues and discover actionable steps to foster equality and resilience in modern partnerships.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:44 What motivated you to write the book, Breadwinners?
04:36 Can you define what it means to be a breadwinner, and distinguish between sole and primary breadwinners?
07:49 Why do some men experience anxiety and stress when their wives are the breadwinners?
09:46 What are the traits and attitudes men possess that lead to high marital satisfaction when he is married to a female breadwinner?
13:29 Why is it that women who earn more often feel the need to overcompensate at home?
17:54 Can you explain the concept of 'exchange-bargaining’ and how money becomes a bargaining chip in domestic labor?
22:09 Can you describe financial control as a form of power that can easily veer into manipulation?
27:53 How do societal expectations differ for same-sex couples when it comes to earning and domestic responsibilities?
32:05 What does the science say about the benefits—for children and couples—of dads taking on caregiving roles?
37:03 What are the traits of the men who stay home and take advantage of parental leave, or do not have problems when their wife is the breadwinner?
40:50 What are the consequences of one partner with a low sense of power in the relationship?
42:48 You mention that too little power creates stress, but too much reduces empathy. How can couples find the right balance of shared influence in their relationship?
46:39 What are the small, actionable steps listeners can take today to start shifting power imbalances in their own relationships?

Purchase the book: https://melissahogenboom.com/breadwinners-2/

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Heather and Douglas Boneparth, a powerhouse couple blending financial expertise with real-life relationship insights. Douglas, a nationally recognized financial advisor and founder of Bone Fide Wealth, serves on advisory councils for CNBC, Investopedia, and with his wife Heather, serves on our Modern Husbands Advisory Board. Heather is a former attorney and rising voice at the intersection of love, money, and family, now leads business and legal affairs at the firm. Together, they co-author The Joint Account newsletter and are passionate about helping couples build financial intimacy and teamwork.

In this episode, Heather and Douglas share powerful personal stories, research-backed insights, and practical tips to help couples navigate financial conversations, divide responsibilities fairly, and build lasting trust. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or simply want to strengthen your financial partnership, this episode offers both motivation and actionable advice. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:14 What inspired you to write Money Together?
07:30 How are you balancing your professional and family roles?
12:52 Why do you think money is such a charged topic in relationships? What common myths or fears do you see couples bring into their financial lives?
24:01 What are some common imbalances you’ve observed in how couples divide financial responsibility?
28:34 How can couples begin to have fair conversations about labor—especially when one person feels overwhelmed or resentful?
35:51 What’s your advice when one partner doesn’t want to be involved with money at all? Should they be able to "opt out?"
42:17 Where can listeners learn more, and how can they start having “money together” conversations today?
43:10 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you can share with our listeners?

Buy their book here: https://domoneytogether.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s episode we welcome Dr. Julie Wayne, a Professor of Management at the Wake Forest University School of Business, specializing in work-family scholarship. Her research focuses on how work and personal lives intersect, examining work-family enrichment, the meaning and measurement of work-life balance, and the "invisible family load". Wayne has been recognized with the 2024 Kanter Award for Excellence in Work-Family Research for her significant contributions to the field.

In this episode, Dr. Wayne breaks down the concepts of mental and emotional load—and why they so often go unseen in relationships. She explains how these hidden responsibilities impact men and women differently, and shares practical strategies for couples to notice, share, and reduce the invisible load at home. Whether you're managing careers, kids, or both, this conversation offers actionable insights to strengthen your partnership. Enjoy the show.

Questions

00:00 Introduction
02:05 Where does your passion for your work originate?
03:32 What exactly is the “mental load,” and why do people call it invisible?
06:02 What does the mental load have to do with the intersection of work and home?
13:02 How does it generally show up differently for men and women?
18:17 How does the emotional load differ from the mental load, and why is it particularly challenging?
22:37 What are some practical ways husbands and partners can notice, share, or reduce the emotional labor at home?
31:17 Beyond the household, how can workplaces, policies, or broader societal expectations help men and women balance mental and emotional responsibilities more equitably?
35:49 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to share with our listeners?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Jenny Olson, an Assistant Professor of Marketing at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business. Dr. Olson just released research examining how people predict happiness from buying something, what actually happens, and whether how poor or rich you are impacts how we feel about it. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:00 Fast overview of her previous groundbreaking research on joint bank accounts
03:45 Judging people in poverty who spend money
07:45 The findings from her research
09:50 What her research has to do with our basic needs
13:00 How to interpret the research and suggestions
14:32 How do common misconceptions about income levels affect people’s expectations from happiness from their experiences
17:05 What can dual career couples do to enhance their own happiness
19:46 The line between spending and compulsive spending for happiness
21:05 Examples of consumption experiences that she found drive happiness
22:03 Self care: people prioritize the self care of others before themselves
25:27 How has your research influenced your own views
29:09 One piece of practical advice people can use now in their lives based on your research

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Gary Barker and Dr. Taveeshi Gupta of Equimundo.

Dr. Gary Barker is the CEO and co-founder of Equimundo and a globally recognized leader in engaging men and boys to advance gender equality, with over 30 years of experience across more than 50 countries.

Dr. Taveeshi Gupta is the Senior Director of Research at Equimundo and a global expert on masculinities and gender with over 15 years of experience leading research on structural inequalities and their impact on youth and development.

The research at Equimundo was the origin of the evidence used by the Congressional Dads Caucus for proposed legislation.

Our conversation will center around Equimundo’s State of American Men 2025, a groundbreaking new study that offers an unflinching, data-driven look at the emotional, economic, and cultural pressures facing American men.

At a time when narratives around masculinity are increasingly divisive and distorted, their annual study cuts through the noise with a clear, compassionate message: Men are not in crisis because of who they are — they’re in crisis because of what they lack.

Perhaps that is a driver behind their finding, an absolutely terrifying statistic that 57% of men, and 52% of women, believe that the US would be a better place with a strong leader in charge who doesn’t bother with elections. The stakes of what is occurring in our country right now couldn’t be any higher.

Link to research: https://www.equimundo.org/resources/state-of-american-men-2025/

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Allison Daminger, an assistant professor of sociology at UW-Madison and the author of What's on Her Mind: The Mental Workload of Family Life, forthcoming in September 2025. Daminger's research is focused on how and why gender shapes family dynamics, particularly the division of work and power in couples. Her award-winning scholarship has been featured in outlets including The Atlantic, The New York Times, and Psychology Today. Daminger also writes a weekly newsletter, The Daminger Dispatch, about the intersections between gender and family life.

Today’s discussion is laser focused on the mental load and what’s on the mind of working women. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

01:00 Introduction
01:55 Let’s start with the basics. What exactly is “cognitive labor,” and how is it different from other types of household labor?
05:02 You break down cognitive labor into four tasks: anticipating, identifying, deciding, and monitoring. Can you walk us through what those look like in everyday family life?
16:28 One of your findings is that even in households that believe in equality, women tend to carry more of the mental load. Why is that, and how does it persist even with good intentions?
25:36 How do early childhood experiences shape the way men and women learn (or don’t learn) to do cognitive labor?
28:44 Your research includes same-gender couples. What lessons can different-gender couples learn from how cognitive labor is handled in those relationships?
32:11 Let’s talk about solutions. What can couples do if they want to move toward a more equitable distribution of cognitive labor? Where should they start?
38:14 You write that many men want to help but feel unsure about how to jump in. What advice do you have for those men to begin showing up better?
43:21 In the book, you describe how unequal cognitive labor can impact a woman’s identity, stress levels, and even career. Can you share a story or example that really stuck with you?
45:32 Where can our listeners learn more about you and purchase your book?
46:03 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Click here to learn more about Dr. Daminger and buy her book.

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In this episode of the Modern Husbands podcast, Brian Page, Ashley Brichter, and Kate Mangino discuss the importance of household equality and the challenges couples face in achieving it. They explore the benefits of domestic equity for both men and women, emphasizing the need for emotional connections and breaking down traditional gender norms.

Dr. Kate Mangino is the author of Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home, focuses on the benefits for men who live in a gender equitable way. Kate focuses on addressing social norms for attitude and behavior change.

Ashley Brichter is the Founder and CEO of Birthsmarter, a wildly successful education program for married couples. Ashley is a life-long educator, birth worker, consultant, Certified Fair Play Facilitator and entrepreneur.

The conversation introduces the MOVE framework (Money, Operations, Values, and Empathy) as a tool for couples to navigate their relationships and financial discussions effectively. The hosts share practical strategies for improving communication and managing household responsibilities, ultimately highlighting the value of investing in relationships and adapting to change together.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction to Modern Husbands Podcast
03:56 Understanding Gender Norms and Their Impact
06:36 Benefits of Household Equity for Men
09:23 The MOVE Framework: Money, Operations, Values, Empathy
14:16 Navigating Money Conversations in Relationships
22:12 Practical Steps for Couples to Improve Communication
29:55 Final Thoughts and Resources for Couples

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Ax Abdullah is a war refugee turned Ph.D. in Human-Computer Interaction. Ax is the founder and the CEO of 3rd Brain, a company he founded with his wife and co-founder, Paige. Together, they are creating an application that addresses the mental load we all experience managing home and the life as busy dual career couples.

You’re going to love his story and today’s great conversation about the mental load. Enjoy the show.

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Otto Rivera, a Certified Financial Planner® and an Enrolled Agent with the IRS who was diagnosed with ADHD in his 40s. Otto is a member of the Financial Planning Association and is the host of their national Neurodivergent Planners Knowledge Circle in which neurodivergent financial planners and other advisors share insights and education about neurodiversity.

Today’s episode is focused on how neurodivergent couples can manage their finances. Enjoy the show!

Listener Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:16 Can you explain what it means to be neurodivergent?
03:08 Can you share with our audience why you became passionate about helping neurodivergent folks with money management and financial planning?
05:02 Could you explain how neurodivergence can affect an individual's ability to manage finances?
10:45 For a neurodivergent individual looking to start managing their finances, what initial steps would you recommend?
14:10 What role can spouses play in assisting neurodivergent individuals with their financial planning?
17:01 Can you discuss any budgeting techniques that are particularly effective for those who are neurodivergent?
20:23 Why is it more effective to split your deposit?
25:27 What is one simple piece of actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with on the topic?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Jennifer Petriglieri. Dr. Petriglieri is an Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour at INSEAD. Prior to joining INSEAD, she was a Post-Doctoral Fellow of Organisational Behaviour at the Harvard Business School. Dr. Petriglieri is the author of Couples That Work, a book on how dual-career couples can thrive in love and in work.

Today’s discussion will dive into how busy dual career couples can work together practically to manage their homes more effectively and grow closer together as a couple. Enjoy the show.

Questions

00:00 Introduction
02:00 Let’s start with you sharing where your passion came from to write your book Couples That Work?
03:30 In Couples That Work, you discuss the importance of defining success as a couple. What practical steps can dual-career couples take to align their personal and professional goals?
05:12 What advice do you have for couples to balance their individual ambitions while fostering teamwork?
07:08 Many couples struggle when one or both partners go through significant career transitions. What strategies do you recommend for navigating these moments while maintaining a strong relationship?
10:03 Relocation can be a major issue for dual-career couples. How can couples navigate the challenges that come with one partner's job requiring a move?
13:39 What are some relocation negotiation tactics you can employ with employers?
16:04 What are some of the most common mistakes dual-career couples make that can lead to conflict or dissatisfaction? How can they proactively address or avoid these issues?
23:24 Why is the division of household responsibilities in dual-career relationships particularly important, according to most women?
31:26 What are three practical steps couples can take to manage household responsibilities fairly?
35:06 What are your top tips for dual-career couples to keep their relationship strong and connected despite their limited time together?

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I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Christine Landis, the founder of Peacock Parent.

In this conversation, Christine shares insights on the importance of outsourcing tasks to alleviate the mental load and guilt often felt by parents. The discussion covers societal pressures, the benefits of outsourcing, and practical advice for couples on how to approach the topic of delegation in their lives.

Enjoy the show!

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:07 Could you start by explaining what outsourcing is and how it has evolved in the modern world?
03:00 Where did your passion for supporting couples through outsourcing home management tasks come from?
04:46 Are there societal pressures that play into deciding to outsource work at home?
06:42 How can outsourcing services benefit dual-career couples specifically? Are there services that are particularly popular among this demographic?
09:22 How can couples decide which tasks to outsource versus which ones to keep in-house?
12:39 There are societal pressures for men to do things themselves. Can you speak to this?
19:10 What are some of the most common tasks that couples outsource, and why are these good starting points?
24:03 Why do folks struggle with delegating at home?
30:44 From a financial standpoint, how should couples evaluate the cost versus the benefits of outsourcing tasks?
32:53 Tell us about your company and where can our listeners learn more?
34:12 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you would like to share with our listeners?

Website: https://peacockparent.com/
Quiz: https://peacockparent.com/value-of-time-quiz/

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For today’s podcast we welcome Carrie Rattle. Carrie is a 30-year veteran executive of the financial industry. She holds an MBA, is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) and an Accredited Financial Counselor (AFC), the only financial coaching designation recognized by FINRA. Carrie trained with Psychotherapist & Founder of MoneyHarmony Olivia Mellan. Olivia is a money psychology pioneer who has been hosted on Oprah, the Today Show, and ABC’s 20/20. She then clinically studied Compulsive Shopping under Dr. April Benson for 18 months. Carrie bought Dr. Benson's business in COVID.

Today we will discuss compulsive shopping behavior by at least one partner in a relationship, and how you can work together to conquer the challenge.

Enjoy the show.

Carrie Rattle
00:00 Introduction
01:48 This is a pretty specialized topic. How did you get into this work Carrie?
02:42 What is compulsive buying and how is it different from impulsive buying?
06:06 Why is it such a big deal? (and how can it affect couples/families)
10:48 Compulsive buying /shopping addiction seems to be covered in the media regularly, but there are few of you in the country who specialize in this area. Why is that?
13:56 When clients come to you, how do they feel? And if they mention partners, do they share how they also feel?
16:30: Should compulsive shoppers work with their spouses to have an allowance system in their relationship?
20:38 What can a partner do to help them? What shouldn’t they do?
26:33 What support is available to overshoppers/compulsive shoppers/shopping addicts?
28:32 Where can our listeners go to learn more about you?
29:16 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

I’m Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands. Sometimes our listeners want more support than a podcast can give, individual or couple support, which I now provide. Details can be found at modernhusbands.com or you can email me at brian@modernhusbands.com.

For today’s podcast we welcome Elizabeth Earnshaw, one of today’s most trusted relationship teachers. Elizabeth is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Clinical Fellow of The American Association of Marriage & Family Therapy. She also founded A Better Life Therapy, where she sees couples in her tailored weekend intensives. Today we are going to discuss her new book, Til Stress Do Us Part.

Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:07 Can you walk us through some of the types of stress we face and how they affect our relationships with our partners and ourselves?
09:28 Can you walk us through the concept of mental load and how a disparity in marriage leads to issues?
19:10 What role does stress play in our daily lives? How does that impact our relationships?
26:58 How do we set healthy boundaries to counter stress? How do these affect our relationships?
31:05 What is the science behind our response to internal and external stressors?
45:46 What are three practices couples can implement in their lives today to help protect their relationship?
47:42 Where can folks learn more about your book and your work?

Learn more about Elizabeth and where to purchase her book:: https://elizabethearnshaw.com/

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In this conversation, Dr. Emily Oster discusses the application of business principles to family decision-making, particularly for dual-career couples.

Dr. Emily Oster is a renowned economist and author, known for her data-driven approach to pregnancy and parenting. She is a New York Times best-selling author, a professor of economics at Brown University, and the founder and CEO of ParentData, a website providing research-backed information on pregnancy and parenting.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
03:08 In The Family Firm, you advocate for applying business principles to family decisions. 06:08 How can dual-career couples implement structured decision-making processes to manage parenting responsibilities effectively?
12:12 When both parents have demanding careers, how should they approach decisions around parental leave to balance career aspirations and family needs?
17:12 How can couples incorporate regular check-ins to discuss their relationship and parenting roles, and what benefits do these conversations offer?
21:04 With an abundance of parenting advice available, how can couples discern what information is relevant and make informed decisions without feeling overwhelmed? ​
26:07 In your research, you've challenged several conventional parenting beliefs. Can you share some myths that dual-career couples should be aware of, and how debunking them can ease parenting stress? ​
28:25 What approaches do you suggest for couples to align their long-term parenting goals, such as education choices and extracurricular activities, to ensure cohesive decision-making? ​
31:23 How can couples proactively address and balance traditional gender roles in parenting to foster an equitable partnership?​
39:26 Many working parents experience guilt related to balancing career and family. What insights do you offer to help couples navigate and mitigate these feelings?
41:28 Can you please share with our listeners where they can learn more about your work – such as your online and social media presence and where they can purchase your books?
42:01 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave us with?

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For today’s podcast we welcome Dr. Cassie Holmes, a chaired professor at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management, award-winning teacher and researcher on time and happiness, and bestselling author of Happier Hour: How to Beat Distraction, Expand Your Time, and Focus on What Matters Most.

In this conversation, Dr. Cassie Holmes, a leading expert in happiness research, discusses the importance of time management and intentional living in enhancing happiness.

She shares insights from her book 'Happier Hour' and emphasizes the need for balancing work and family life, especially for parents juggling dual careers. The discussion covers practical applications of happiness research, the concept of time poverty, and the significance of creating 'pockets of joy' in daily life. In this conversation, Cassie discusses the importance of recognizing joy in everyday moments, the value of novel experiences in relationships, and the significance of creating holiday traditions.

She emphasizes the need for intentional time management and prioritizing what truly matters in life. The discussion also includes practical tips for couples to enhance their relationship and create meaningful moments together, especially during busy times like the holidays.

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Emily Luk. Emily is a Chartered Financial Analyst, Chartered Professional Accountant, and co-founder of the investing app Plenty. For today’s episode we discuss the challenges couples face when investing for retirement and how to address those challenges. Enjoy the episode.

Takeaways

• Couples should have open and honest conversations about their finances and retirement goals.
• Understanding your current financial situation is crucial for planning and investing for retirement.
• Investing over time can lead to significant growth, even with small initial investments.
• Collaboration and working together as a couple can lead to greater financial confidence and success.
• Plenty's app and retirement product provide tools and guidance to help couples manage their investments and plan for retirement.
• The Power of Investing Over Time

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction and Background in Investment Services
01:52 The Need for a Tool to Manage Finances as a Couple
06:12 Simplifying Investing for Couples and the Fundamentals
19:08 The New Trend: THREFT Indexing, Tax Strategies, and Alternative Investment
22:41 Addressing Challenges and Building Confidence in Retirement Planning
26:31 Understanding the Potential Growth of Investments Over Time
28:34 The Role of Plenty's App and Podcast in Helping Couples
31:09 Rapid Fire Investing Questions and Answers
34:55 Simple Actionable Advice to Apply in Your Life

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Mary Beth Ferrante, Founder of Work 360. Mary Beth’s focus is on positioning organizations to break the weak culture cycle that perpetuates burnout and caregiver stigma, costing organizations millions of dollars in turnover, lost productivity, and unused benefits. Today is a conversation between Brian Page and Mary Beth on the role of men in care.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:30 Going all-in on one spouse’s career
07:18 How to step up at home
11:10 How I define a Modern Husband
13:10 What is keeping some men from stepping in as lead caregivers at home
17:19 What do you wish wives understood about their husbands?
20:15 How can men and women get to equity in the home and at work
23:57 How women can start a conversation with their husbands about doing more at home

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Julia Menez, founder of Geo Breeze Travel. We discuss the world of points and rewards travel. She shares how points and miles can be used to save money on flights and hotels, how to be strategic with credit cards and points, and shares success stories of clients who have planned dream vacations using her strategies. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction and Favorite Travel Destination
01:39 Inspiration Behind Founding Geobreeze Travel
03:42 Points and Rewards Travel 101
05:24 Dispelling Misconceptions about Points and Rewards Travel
13:32 What Makes Julia Uniquelly Qualified
15:26 Fast Facts About Travel Rewards and Points
17:45 Success Stories: Dream Vacations Planned with Points and Rewards
21:12 Conclusion and Actionable Steps

Key Takeaways

• Points and miles can be used to save money on flights and hotels
• Being strategic with credit cards and points is important
• Don't hoard points, use them to create memories
• Flexible points from credit cards can hedge against devaluation
• Research and plan your travel to maximize the value of your points

Learn more about Geobreeze Travel: https://geobreezetravel.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Birthsmarter Founder Ashley Brichter. Ashley is a life-long educator, birth worker, consultant, and entrepreneur. She is a Certified Fair Play Facilitator, a Tory Burch Fellow, and she sits on the board of ProNatal Fitness.

In this episode, we explore the challenges couples face during childbirth, emphasizing its unpredictability and impact on relationships. She highlights postpartum mental health, Fair Play for shared parenting, and provides practical advice of support.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:24 How did you become passionate about supporting couples through childbirth and the early stages of parenting?
05:01 What are some common challenges couples face during childbirth and how can they prepare to tackle these together? Instincts, healthy communication, learning to make decisions, connection with elders
19:42 How important is it for both partners to be actively involved during labor and delivery, and what roles can the non-birthing partner play?
25:24 Can you discuss the emotional and psychological impacts of childbirth on a couple’s relationship and how they can strengthen their bond during this time?
31:51 How can couples divide parenting responsibilities in a way that feels fair and supportive to both partners?
37:02 What advice do you have for couples on managing the stress that comes with sleep deprivation and constant caregiving in the first year?
45:12 One is one piece of simple and actionable advice you would like to leave our listeners with?

Learn more about Birthsmarter: https://birthsmarter.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Marriage and Family Therapist Aly Bullock. Aly is the Paired App Head of Relationships and a marriage and family therapist who is dedicated to helping couples build stronger, more fulfilling partnerships. Aly is a married mom of three. She has over 350,000 followers on social media, where she posts fun content designed to help committed couples navigate communication challenges.

In this episode, Aly shares the intricacies of relationships, focusing on effective communication strategies for couples. We discuss practical advice for dealing with the silent treatment, making date nights special, and much more. Enjoy the episode.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:39 Where does your passion for helping couples come from?
03:17 How do you tell your partner to calm down without telling your partner to calm down?
06:01 What if you don’t want to talk to your partner about your feelings?
09:00 Your partner is in a bad mood, but you don't know why. What is the best approach?
15:30 What should you say to your partner when they are giving you the silent treatment?
18:17 What are a few easy ways to make your date night rock!
23:39 Let’s shift gears to your new role at Paired. What is a couples app?
26:17 How does Paired address major couple stressors including money, sex, etc?
27:23 What kind of couple can most benefit from Paired and who is their target audience?
27:45 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Aly’s Free Relationship Check In Guide: https://www.relationshipswithaly.com/store

Follow Aly on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/relationshipswithaly/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Tyler Moore, known as Tidy Dad.

Tyler is the creator of the hugely popular @Tidy Dad Instagram, TikTok, and website. A public school teacher in New York City, husband, and father of three young daughters, he has been featured on Good Morning America and in the Washington Post, New York Times, New York Post, and numerous other national outlets.

In today’s episode, the Tidy Dad shares his insights on maintaining a tidy home while balancing the demands of fatherhood, teaching, and personal growth.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:42 Tell us a little bit about your family and your current work life balance?
08:52 How has fatherhood shaped your approach to tidying and managing your home?
11:36 Most of our listeners work full time, have kids, and you do their fair share around the house. Some might even have side hustles like you. How do you balance the roles of being a dad, a husband, and a tidy household advocate?
14:38 What advice do you have for dads trying to involve their kids in maintaining a tidy home?
19:30 How do you and your spouse divide household responsibilities? What lessons have you learned along the way?
23:36 Can you give us a sneak peek into your new book? What are some key takeaways readers can expect?
26:20 Are there specific tidying techniques or philosophies in your book that resonate particularly well with dads?
29:07 What message do you hope your readers and followers take away about the connection between tidiness, fatherhood, and personal growth?
32:39 What is one simple and actionable piece of advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Learn more about Tidy Dad: https://thetidydad.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Adam Kol, known as The Couples Financial Coach. Adam is a Certified Financial Therapist - Level I™, Certified Mediator, and Attorney with degrees from Duke and NYU Law (Tax).

In today’s episode, we explore the concept of financial intimacy in relationships, emphasizing its importance for couples managing finances together. Adam discusses his book, 'Financial Intimacy for Couples', which serves as a guide for couples to achieve clarity and teamwork in their financial lives.

The discussion covers the role of personal money stories, the dynamics between savers and spenders, and the necessity of open communication to foster empathy and understanding in financial discussions. Adam provides actionable advice for couples to improve their financial conversations and strengthen their relationships.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:28 What is the name of your book, and what is it about?
04:32 What is financial intimacy?
06:05 What role does financial intimacy play in how couples talk about money?
09:09 How do you create financial intimacy in your marriage?
14:48 How do you sustain financial intimacy in your marriage?
21:55 How can savers and spenders get on the same page?
26:22 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want our listeners to walk away with?

Learn more about Adam: https://www.couplesfinancialcoach.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Jordan Grumet, author of The Purpose Code and host of the Earn and Invest Podcast.

Dr. Grumet was an internal medicine physician in private practice when he discovered the personal finance community. Since then, he left his clinical practice to pursue his passion for deep conversations about purpose, money, and life – which is the topic of today’s show.

00:00 Introduction
01:25 Today, we are going to be talking about your book, The Purpose Code. Can you share with our listeners a broad overview of what the book is about?
03:26 Dr. Grumet, you open your book discussing the importance of purpose for happiness and fulfillment. Could you share a personal story about how discovering your own purpose changed your life and career trajectory?
06:11 What are some practical first steps our listeners can take to start aligning their daily actions with their true purpose, especially when both partners in a relationship are career-oriented?
12:35: Was there a conversation you had in all of your times visiting dying patients in hospice that jolted you into the understanding of why it’s so important to live your life with intention and purpose?
16:50 Can you discuss the role of shared purpose in strengthening a relationship, and how couples can work together to discover and support each other’s purposes?
19:12 How does social media influence our perception of purpose, and what strategies would you recommend for individuals to use social media in a way that supports rather than detracts from their sense of purpose?
28:49 In your book, you talk about leaving a lasting legacy as a component of purpose. How should someone think about their legacy when they are in the thick of managing both a career and a family?
35:17 Where can people purchase your book, The Purpose Code? Where can people turn to listen to your podcast?
35:57 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you would like to leave our listeners with today?

Learn more about Dr. Grumet and purchase his book: https://jordangrumet.com/

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Today we welcome Dr. F. Kubra Aytac. Dr. Aytac is a member of the Children and Parents Lab at The Ohio State University. She holds three M.S. degrees in the fields of psychology and sociology and majored in Sociology and Philosophy with a minor in Political Science and Public Administration.

Her master’s thesis about maternal gatekeeping received the “METU Best Thesis of the Year Award”. Her primary research interests are adult attachment, coparenting, couple relationships, and well-being.

Today we are going to discuss high quality parenting, maternal gatekeeping, and how couples can work past it. Enjoy the episode.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:21 How do you define high quality parenting?
02:30 This is our 60 second challenge, which means you are going to try to answer this question in 60 seconds or less.

• What is one example activity of high quality parenting?
• What is a second example activity of high quality parenting?
• What is a third example activity of high quality parenting?

10:38 What is maternal gatekeeping?
13:02 Can you explain how maternal gatekeeping can get in the way of a father's involvement?
17:22 Are parents who are gatekeeping aware of what they are doing?
18:12 What is the origin of maternal gatekeeping?
28:26 How can couples work through the problems that arise as a result of maternal gatekeeping?
32:06 Why do mothers want to exclude a parent from responsibilities?
35:30 What is one simple piece of actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

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Today we welcome Dr. Jessica Higgins to discuss how to manage conflict in marriage. Dr. Jessica Higgins is a Licensed Psychologist and Licensed Professional Counselor. She holds a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology and a M.A. in Counseling Psychology. Dr. Higgins is also the founder and creator of Connected Couple, which is a comprehensive, research-based, transformational, relationship program.

Questions

00:00 Introduction
01:07 Why are couples often shocked or surprised when conflict emerges in their relationship, especially in early phases of marriage?
05:15 What do you see as two conflicting needs in a relationship and how this is often a point of tension in a marriage?
13:27 Many times couples will identify "a breakdown of communication" as a culprit of conflict in a marriage? What do you think?
22:04 What is the criticism and defensiveness loop? Why is the criticism and defensiveness loop so problematic?
32:00 Three tips that are simple enough to each be shared in less than a minute, for folks to de-escalate a conflict?
34:33 Can you share with our listeners more about where they can learn about you and your podcast?
35:33: What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you would like to leave with our listeners?

Where to learn more about Dr. Jessica Higgins: DrJessicaHiggins.com

Click here to download the Shifting Criticism Guide

Click here to listen to the Empowered Relationship Podcast

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we are going to talk with Ashley Quamme about marriage and money conflict: how to work through the tough stuff.

Ashley has been a couple’s therapist for well over a decade. She holds a Master of Science in Marriage and Family Therapy, a graduate certificate in Financial Therapy, and holds designations as a Certified Financial Behavior Specialist® and Certified Financial Therapist-Practitioner.

Questions

00:00 Introduction
00:45 Let’s say you want to change some bad financial decisions being made in the marriage, but your spouse doesn’t. How do you engage the unengaged partner?
08:07 Nobody wants to argue about money in their marriage, but sometimes doing something about it is difficult. How do you motivate clients to take action through conversation?
12:18 Money is emotional, and it can be hard to look at life through the lens of someone else when you’re frustrated yourself. In that case, what are some tools you can use to improve empathy and your own active listening skills?
16:11 It is not uncommon for a saver and a spender to marry one another. How do you address the saver/spender dynamic in marriage?
22:05 Financial infidelity, that is intentionally deceiving your partner about money, is a problem in nearly half of marriages. Walk us through how couples can navigate the problems that arise from financial infidelity.
25:41 Tell us about your new podcast!
27:48 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice listeners can use today?

Resources

Brene Brown on Empathy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZBTYViDPlQ
Beyond the Plan Podcast: https://www.beyondthefp.com/

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For today’s episode, we are going to start thinking rich.

Adrian Brambila, the son of immigrant parents from Mexico, rose to TikTok stardom by redefining “real wealth,” and showcasing his journey of earning $1.7 million in one year while living in a van.

Bradley T. Klontz, Psy.D., CFP® is a financial psychologist, professor, and researcher who has co-authored eight books on the psychology of money. He comes from a broken family and grew up poor but still became a millionaire in his 30s. Today, he is the world’s leading expert in the psychology of money.

They are today’s guests and the coauthors of the book, Start Thinking Rich, which is precisely what we will talk about on today’s episode. Enjoy the show.

00:00 Introduction
01:46 What motivated you to read Start Thinking Rich
07:45 Only poor people think the system is rigged
13:00 How to avoid the wrong mentality
17:00 Poor people buy stuff, rich people own time.
30:32: If you want to get rich, go to college, get rich, and buy a house (or not)
34:45 Is it better to rent or buy a house?
40:42 Get a roommate, get on the bus, get sober, get bald, and get a side hustle or shut up and be poor
43:30 The ultimate side hustle for kids
48:20 It’s not your fault if you were born poor, but it’s your fault if you die poor.
54:45 One piece of simple and actionable advice for your marriage

Link to purchase the book: https://startthinkingrich.com/modernhusbands

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The great news is that Inflation is back to 2-3%, but the prices for some of what we buy remain high. In today’s episode, entitled Why Prices are Higher: Just the Facts!, we address why.

Our guests are Dr. Jennifer Davidson and Mike Raymer.

Dr. Davidson is the President of the Nebraska Council on Economic Education and the Associate Professor of Practice in Economics at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

Mike Raymer is the Executive Director of the Georgia Council on Economic Education and a former award winning economics educator.

You will finish the podcast understanding how to spot the nonsense shared on social media and some news outlets so you and your partner can have an informed fact based conversation about inflation, and how you can manage it in your home.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
02:40 What is inflation and how is it measured?
06:23 Who is primarily responsible for managing inflation in the United States?
14:04 If inflation is down, why are groceries still expensive?
22:50 What were the contributing factors to the inflation spike post 2020?
29:05 How did the United States manage inflation, relative to the rest of the world?
33:26 The opposite of inflation is deflation. What is worse, a 10% rate of inflation or 10% rate of deflation, and why?
35:53 What are some practical ways couples can manage higher prices?
39:16 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with as it pertains to higher prices?

Resources

Search article title "Why Prices are Higher: Just the Facts!" at modernhusbands.com for the data points and resources mentioned in the episode.

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Jay Zigmont, PhD, MBA, CFP® is the Founder and CEO of Childfree Wealth®, a life and financial planning firm dedicated to helping Childfree and Permanently Childless people. Childfree Wealth is the first life and financial planning firm dedicated to serving Childfree people.

Dr. Jay is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™, Childfree Wealth Specialist, and author of the book “Portraits of Childfree Wealth” and the upcoming book “The Childfree Guide to Life and Money.” Dr Jay is the co-host of the Childfree Wealth podcast. His Ph.D. is in Adult Learning from the University of Connecticut.

He has been featured in Fortune, Forbes, MarketWatch, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Business Insider, CNBC, and many other publications. In 2023, he was named a “Rising Star” by Financial Planning.

Childfree Wealth https://childfreewealth.com
Childfree Wealth Podcast: https://childfreewealth.buzzsprout.com
New book: The Childfree Guide to Life and Money: https://www.amazon.com/Childfree-Guide-Life-Money-Management/dp/1728297346

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:41 What does it mean to live a childfree life?
0:02:49 Can you tell us the difference between childfree and childless couples?
0:03:45 Can you share a bit about your background and what inspired you to work with childfree couples?
0:08:15 What is the difference between the FIRE and the FILE movements?
0:12:00 What are the common misconceptions or different perceptions that people have about childfree couples?
0:21:50 The Gardener and the Rose
0:26:50 What advice do you have for couples on setting new personal and joint goals after their children have moved out?
0:31:22 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice for our listeners that you would like to conclude with today?

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Aja Evans is a speaker and soon-to-be author of her debut book, Feel Good Finance. She is the incoming President of the Financial Therapy Association, consults with fintech companies, and has been featured in major news outlets such as The New York Times, Business Insider, NerdWallet, and CNBC.

Today we discuss the essentials of a good relationship, such as managing finances as a couple, handling income swings, and dividing household responsibilities. She discusses joint finances, separate accounts, and the importance of early money conversations in relationships.

Key Takeaways

• Early money conversations in relationships are crucial for aligning financial goals and expectations.
• Managing monthly income swings requires careful budgeting and preparation, especially in professions with variable income.
• Dividing household responsibilities and tasks requires open communication and understanding of each other's preferences and strengths. Open communication is crucial for managing household responsibilities and addressing financial disagreements within a marriage.
• Understanding one's money story and its influence on financial decisions is essential for a healthy financial relationship within a marriage.
• Aja's upcoming book, Feel Good Finance, focuses on the importance of understanding individual money stories and their impact on financial beliefs and patterns within a marriage.

Listener Notes

0:00 Introduction
1:09 Can you introduce yourselves and give us a brief background on your journey together as a couple?
5:02 How do you divide your finances as a couple?
9:20 How did you approach your initial conversations about money?
10:15 What was your approach to paying off the student loans you brought into the marriage?
12:14 How do you ensure both partners have a say in financial decisions?
16:12 How do you handle managing significant swings in household monthly income?
18:14 How do you divide the tasks needed to run your home?
25:04 What advice do you have for other couples who struggle with financial disagreements?
33:30 Changing gears for a moment, can you share a bit about your upcoming book Feel Good Finance?
37:00 How can couples with two different money stories work through their differences?
42:08 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you can share with our listeners?

Order or Preorder Aja’s book, Feel Good Finance: Untangle Your Relationship with Money for Better Mental, Emotional, and Financial Well-Being: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/759700/feel-good-finance-by-aja-evans/

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Today’s discussion is with Cara Macksoud and centers around how couples can navigate money habits in marriage.

Cara Macksoud began her career on the New York Stock Exchange at the age of 17 while simultaneously attending NYU Stern School of Business where she majored in finance.

Cara eventually became the youngest woman to earn a seat to trade on the New York Stock Exchange. She is the mother of five and CEO of Money Habitudes, a game-like assessment – played either via physical cards or online – to help people understand and talk about their finances in a fun, constructive way.

Takeaways

• Open and honest communication is crucial for addressing money habits in marriage.
• Celebrating wins, no matter how small, strengthens the relationship.
• Understanding and utilizing each other's strengths can lead to better financial decisions.
• Avoiding conversations about financial habits can create resentment and strain in the relationship.
• Asking your partner what they would do if they won the lottery can provide insight into their priorities and values.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
00:50 Cara’s Journey: From Coffee Runner to Money Habitudes
05:20 Advice for Dual Career Parents
12:10 Understanding Money Habitudes
16:30 Attitudes About Money and Relationship Dynamics
24:13 Dealing with Bad Financial Habits in Marriage
25:28 Positive Financial Behaviors in Relationships
30:38 Simple and Actionable Advice

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In this episode we discuss with Chris Taylor various topics including personal finance journalism, tipping culture, impulse buying on social media, the relationship between money and happiness, and the importance of time in personal finance.

Mr. Taylor is a Senior Correspondent for Reuters, contributor to the WSJ Buy Side & Fortune, with published articles in the Financial Times, CNBC, Money Magazine, and many more.

Takeaways

• Personal finance journalism should focus on the emotional aspects of money to resonate with readers.
• Tipping culture is at a tipping point, with people becoming more reluctant to tip in various situations.
• Impulse buying on social media can be prevented by waiting before making a purchase and creating friction in the buying process.
• Money can create happiness up to a certain level, but beyond that, the correlation between money and happiness diminishes.
• The hedonic treadmill is the tendency to always want more money and possessions, but it doesn't lead to long-term happiness.
• Building wealth and financial security is best achieved by starting early and giving investments time to grow.
• Time is the most powerful factor in personal finance, and starting early in investing can lead to long-term financial security.

Chapter Markers

00:00 Introduction
00:50 Canadian Culture and Healthcare
07:30 Favorite Money Lessons for His Kids
10:30 The Emotional Side of Personal Finance Journalism
12:06 The Tipping Culture Debate
15:00 Preventing Impulse Buying on Social Media
19:20: Happiness and Money
25:15 The Most Important Personal Finance Lesson

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Zach Watson is a Certified Fair Play Facilitator who coaches directly from personal experience, implementing the principles and systems of the Fair Play Method along with a mixture of teachings from his mindfulness training, while being a public educator and habit setting that he’s been coaching for 7 years.

Zach has well over one million followers on his various social media platforms.

Essential Takeaways

• The mental load and invisible labor often fall on women in managing a home.
• Regular communication and feedback sessions with your partner are crucial for creating a fair division of labor.
• Tools like the Fair Playbook or the Persist app can help identify and distribute responsibilities.
• Setting clear expectations and boundaries is essential to avoid resentment and improve teamwork at home.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Zach Watson
08:44 Creating a Fair and Balanced System
09:48 The Importance of Clear Communication
12:41 Providing Feedback to Share the Workload
17:23 Gradual Implementation of New Responsibilities
21:50 Challenges and Solutions for Couples
25:50 Handling Different Standards of Care
33:25 Simple and Actionable Advice

Follow Zach: https://zachthinkshare.com/linktree1

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Abby Davisson has dedicated her career to helping others achieve their goals, first as a social innovation leader and now as an author, speaker, and entrepreneur. Abby is the co-author of Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life’s Biggest Decisions and co-founded the Money and Love Institute.

Abby holds a BA from Yale University and an MBA and MA in Education from Stanford University.

Today’s episode will cover how couples can integrate money and love in decision-making, steps couples can take to establish a strong financial foundation in marriage, and much more.

Questions Answered

00:00 Introduction
01:02 What inspired you to co-author "Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life's Biggest Decisions," and how can it help couples manage their finances?
05:05 Can you explain the concept of integrating money and love in decision-making, as outlined in your book?
08:03 What are some practical steps couples can take to establish a strong financial foundation in their marriage?
11:46 Should you live together before marriage? What does the research find?
16:05 How do you suggest couples approach the topic of money early in their relationship to ensure transparency and trust?
25:57 What role does communication play in managing finances together, and how can couples improve their financial conversations?
28:15 Can you share some common financial pitfalls that couples should avoid to maintain a healthy financial relationship?
31:18 Tell us about the course you are teaching this fall?
32:39 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice for our listeners that you would like to conclude with today?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Jackie Cummings Koski, a single mom of one adult daughter who retired as a millionaire at the age of 49. She is the author of the recently released “F.I.R.E. for Dummies.” Jackie earned CFP® and AFC® credentials; and went back to school to get a master’s degree in financial planning & financial therapy from Kansas State University.

Today’s episode is jam packed with FIRE movement tips! Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

00:00 Introduction
01:19 Where did your passion for financial independence come from?
03:42 What is the FIRE Movement
08:52 The difference between FI and FIRE
12:15 Can you walk us through the mindset and psychology of FIRE?
17:17 Was there a moment while you were building up to your FIRE movement that you realized how incredible of an experience the journey was for you?
21:07 How do you organize your finances for FIRE?
29:14 Make the company pay the 401k fee.
30:58 What are your favorite hacks to increase your savings and investing commitments?
34:21 What strategies do you recommend to reduce your debt, expenses, and taxes?
46:14 Can you FIRE with debt?
49:45 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Jackie's Book, FIRE for Dummies: https://www.amazon.com/FIRE-Dummies-Business-Personal-Finance/dp/1394235011

Catching Up to FI Podcast: https://catchinguptofi.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

We welcome Paige Connell to today’s episode and we discuss how working husbands can best support their working wives in a marriage that values teamwork.

Paige is a working mother of four who uses her platform with a massive and quickly growing following on TikTok and Instagram to share her thoughts on the mental load, parenting, and her career.

Her goal is to raise awareness about the mental load of motherhood and advocate for equitable relationships for couples.

00:00 Introduction

02:04 Paige, let’s start with sharing a little bit about yourself. Can you tell us a bit about your family?

05:30 Let’s start with the problem that gets the headlines in the press: the cost of child care. How does the cost of child care impact your family, and others who follow you?

08:40 The locus of control for you and our listeners is how we can work through this problem. Understanding this, can you walk us through how working husbands can use parental leave to support their spouses and children?

16:47 As parents transition into childcare, the mental load of managing a home can begin to take its toll. What is the mental load, and how can a couple work together to avoid placing an unfair burden of the mental load on one spouse?

24:40 Some of our listeners are exploring childcare options. Can you walk us through the different types and the associated costs?

32:40 As children grow, so does the need for planned and thoughtful shared parenting styles. Can you walk us through what this journey has looked like for you?

38:50 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to share to our listeners that they can apply in their lives?

Follow Paige Connell https://www.sheisapaigeturner.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Jon Macaskill, a retired Navy SEAL Commander turned leadership and mindfulness coach. During his 24-year Navy career, he served in multiple highly dynamic leadership positions from the battlefield to the operations center and the board room.

On today’s episode, we discuss the strategies he uses, and you can use, to stay strong for your family.

Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:03:08 Can you share a bit about your career as a Navy SEAL?
0:05:54 How do you handle the mental switch from being in a high-stakes operational mindset to a more relaxed home environment?
0:11:14 Can you share specific strategies or mental frameworks you learned in the SEALs for maintaining a healthy work-life balance?
0:18:26 What routines or rituals from your SEAL training that you've adapted to help maintain a sense of calm and focus at home?
0:22:06 In what ways do you communicate with your family about the demands of your work, and how do you ensure that your home life remains a priority?
0:25:37 Why is self empathy an important building block toward being an empathetic spouse and parent?
0:32:02 According to your book, motion is lotion for the body. What does this mean, and how do you put this into practice?
0:34:50 What is one simple and actionable piece of advice you want to share with our listeners?

Purchase Jon’s Book “Unleashing Inner Strength: A Navy SEAL's Guide to Preparedness, Resilience, Grit, and Compassion Through Mindfulness” https://www.amazon.com/Unleashing-Inner-Strength-Preparedness-Mindfulness/dp/B0CHGC1XGG

NuCalm: https://nucalm.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dustin Voss. Dustin is the Financial Education Specialist for Chicago Public Schools where it is his job to make sure all of Chicago's children gain a foundation in Financial Literacy. Dustin has been a long time advocate and teacher of Financial Literacy, including serving on the IL Governor's Task force for Financial Empowerment and being on the oversight board for CPS's 403b/457 program.

Dustin and his wife Nora are an educator-couple navigating the joys and difficulties of raising a family and caring for a dependent elder.

On today’s episode, Dustin shares how his young family has navigated the high cost of childcare and home buying in one of the nation’s most expensive cities and how they work together as a team.

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:02 Can you share a bit about your professional background and your partner’s?
0:02:33 How did you and your partner meet?
0:04:02 How did you manage your careers after the birth of your baby?
0:09:19 How has becoming a parent impacted your approach to personal finance?
0:18:42 Can you share some practical tips for budgeting with a new addition to the family?
0:27:39 What financial decisions did you and your partner make to prepare for parenthood?
0:37:33 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you have, based on our conversation today?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Ann Silvers, a mental health counselor and author. On today’s episode we discuss the lessons learned from one of her books, Abuse OF Men BY Women: It Happens, It Hurts, and It's Time to Get Real About It.

Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

00:00 Introduction

00:40 Usually when we are talking about partner abuse we think of men abusing women. What made you write about partner abuse when men are the target instead of the source?

05:18 It’s surprising that a woman is writing about the abuse of men. How frequently does it occur?

10:38 How do you define partner abuse? And what kind of abuse are you talking about?

13:07 What kind of reaction do you get when you talk about women abusing men?

15:08 You talk about forms of partner abuse I had never really thought of before.

a. Can you give us some examples of financial abuse?

b. What do you mean by legal abuse?

c. You mentioned spiritual abuse. What is that?

24:55: Why do people use any power they have to abuse their spouses?

30:51: How do men get pulled into these types of relationships?

36:04 What is one piece of simple actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Additional Resources and Information

Contact: Ann Silvers, M.A. 253-853-7049, Ann@annsilvers.com, http://www.annsilvers.com

Abuse OF Men BY Women: It Happens, It Hurts, and It's Time to Get Real About It: Abuse OF men BY women: It happens, it hurts, and it's time to get real about it: Ann Silvers M.A.: 9780983433873: Amazon.com: Books

How Many Men are Abused by Women? – Ann Silvers, MA

How Women Financially Abuse Men – Ann Silvers, MA

How Women Legally Abuse Men – Ann Silvers, MA

What is Spiritual Abuse in Marriage and Relationships? – Ann Silvers, MA

8 Red Flags the Pregnancy is a Trap – Ann Silvers, MA

Baby Traps: Fake Positive Pregnancy and Paternity DNA Tests – Ann Silvers, MA

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Brenda Volling who is a developmental psychologist and award-winning educator and researcher at the University of Michigan.

Her research focuses on early social and emotional development with infants, toddlers, and preschoolers, parent-child interaction, and family relationships. Dr. Volling works primarily with young fathers during the perinatal period and the transition to fatherhood and studies men’s mental health, father-child relationships, and co-parenting. Her research has been showcased on CBS Sunday Morning, the BBC, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Parents magazine.

On today’s episode we discuss the essential role fathers play in the early years of a child’s development. Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

00:00 Introduction
01:15 From a 20,000 foot view, can you share a bit about your research on the role of fathers for infant development?
13:56 What steps should fathers take to prepare for their first born?
25:13 What outcomes have you found with fathers who form a strong bond with their children as infants?
32:43: What can fathers do as caregivers that is most meaningful for their child's development?
40:14: Where can folks turn to learn more about you and your work?
41:25 What advice do you have for our listeners that is simple and actionable?

The Volling Lab: https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/volling-lab/our-team/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Jason Frishman who has been working for 25 years to support individuals, groups, families, organizations and businesses. He believes that our lives are adventurous, and we can and should be an active, engaged author of our own adventure stories!

Dr. Frishman is a practicing licensed therapist. He is a Psychologist and Doctorate with specific training in Collaborative, Narrative, and Adventure therapies. He is the Founder of JourneyMen, which inspires committed, well-balanced men to successfully journey through life with responsibility, meaning and intention.

For today’s episode we will discuss the common mental struggles men face and strategies to overcome them.

Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

00:00 Introduction
01:05 As the founder of Journeymen, what inspired you to focus on addressing the mental health challenges specific to men?
04:37 Can you share some insights into the common mental struggles that men often face in today's society?
10:00 In your experience, what are some of the key reasons men may hesitate to seek help for their mental health, and how can this barrier be overcome?
26:55 Can you discuss the importance of fostering emotional intelligence in men and how it contributes to their overall mental well-being?
30:05 What are the coping mechanisms that men employ, and are there healthier alternatives that you recommend?
33:59 What role do relationships and social connections play in supporting men's mental health, and how can individuals cultivate these supportive networks?
40:16 Are there specific mindfulness or self-care practices that you recommend for men to incorporate into their daily lives to promote mental well-being?
50:00 Where can our listeners learn more about you and your work?

www.JourneyMenFoundation.com

Top 10 Fastest Ways DADS can CONNECT with Their Kids https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmq-j2esfmrp_NlvrP0Tn40hKbfLrbtUL0TXWGsx4kizSqUQ/viewform

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

For more than two decades, master money coach Mikelann Valterra, MA, AFC®, has helped folks transform their relationship with money. A highly respected expert in financial psychology, she is the author of Rise Above the Money Fog and has been quoted in national publications, including Forbes, USA Today, and Business Insider.

Mikelann is an Accredited Financial Counselor (AFC®) and holds a master’s in psychology and consciousness studies.

On today’s episode, we will discuss the money fog, and what it means to you and your partner.

Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:15 Where does your passion for financial psychology come from?
0:07:12 What has been the biggest change in financial psychology over the past 25 years?
10:18 What is a money fog?
12:26 Can you explain your acronym, FOG?
13:47 What are some of the hidden impacts of the money fog?
16:41 What is the origin of the money fog?
22:22 What is your favorite story of someone who rose above the money fog?
24:48 Where can listeners go to learn more about you?
25:33 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want to leave our listeners with?

Resources

Seattlemoneycoach.com

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Adrienne Hines, Ohio's renowned bankruptcy expert with nearly three decades of experience. Adrienne has redefined bankruptcy, transforming it from a daunting concept into a tool for financial wellness and dignity. She's more than a lawyer; she's an ally who combines sharp legal expertise with deep empathy, guiding those in financial distress towards stability.

Adrienne uses TikTok to challenge bankruptcy myths and promote financial literacy. Her innovative approach earned her the 2023 Best Bankruptcy Advice Award at the FinTok Awards by Debt.com.

In today’s episode we'll talk about all things bankruptcy in marriage, ranging from how to prevent it, when it is appropriate, and many things in between. Enjoy the show.

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:05 How does bankruptcy work and what are the differences between Chapters 7 and 13 bankruptcy?
0:04:48 How long does bankruptcy take?
0:07:53 Do you lose your retirement in any type of bankruptcy?
0:12:51 What are some common questions or concerns your social media followers and clients have regarding bankruptcy and marriage? How do you address these concerns?
0:14:46 Can your spouse file bankruptcy without it including your own personal assets? If so, can you explain how this works?
0:20:36 What are the common origins of bankruptcy?
0:24:28 Is it possible for your spouse to file bankruptcy without including the personal assets accumulated in marriage?
0:26:12 Fast Facts Game

• Can bankruptcy stop a foreclosure?
• Can bankruptcy stop eviction?
• Can bankruptcy stop wage garnishment?
• Is the following possible in the bankruptcy process?
  • Filing bankruptcy without losing house
  • Filing bankruptcy with a student loan
  • Filing bankruptcy to stop foreclosure
  • Filing bankruptcy to keep your car
  • Filing bankruptcy to eliminate credit card debt
  • Filing bankruptcy to eliminate student loans
  • Filing bankruptcy to eliminate medical debt
  • Filing bankruptcy to eliminate private student loans
  • Filing bankruptcy to eliminate your car loan

0:30:05 What is one simple lesson you want listeners to walk away with this episode?
0:32:30 Where can people go to follow you?

Follow @theladylikelawyer on all platforms https://www.theladylikelawyer.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Sean Mullaney who is the President of Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. Through Mullaney Financial & Tax, Sean provides advice-only financial planning for a flat fee. Sean writes the Plutus Award winning blog FITaxGuy.com on the intersection of tax and financial independence and has been quoted in media outlets including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and MarketWatch.

Today we will discuss how spouses can use retirement savings to reduce their taxes. Enjoy the show!

Note: The discussion is intended to be for general educational purposes and is not tax, legal, or investment advice for any individual. Brian, Dr. Bruce, and the Modern Husbands podcast do not endorse Sean Mullaney, Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. and their services.

Questions Answered

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:00 How does a traditional 401k reduce an investors tax burden when investing?
0:05:48 What is the difference between a traditional IRA or 401k and an IRA? And what are the differences between a Roth 401k, Roth IRA, and Spousal IRA? What is a spousal IRA?
0:14:04 What are some of the misconceptions around some investing option terms?
0:16:32 Why would someone choose to invest in some sort of IRA rather than a traditional tax shelter where the investor receives a tax deduction when they contribute?
0:23:23 How can it help parents who don't work outside of the home?
0:26:04 Should people contribute to traditional retirement accounts or Roth retirement accounts?
0:28:57 One simple piece of advice based on the conversation
0:30:12 Where listeners can learn more from Sean about tax tips.

Additional Resources

Sean Mullaney YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SeanMullaneyVideos
Spousal Roth IRA: https://www.modernhusbands.com/post/the-spousal-ira
Sean Mullaney on X: https://twitter.com/SeanMoneyandTax

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. David Smith who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Carey Business School.

A former Navy pilot, Dr. Smith led diverse organizations of women and men culminating in command of a squadron in combat and flew more than 3,000 hours over 30 years including combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As a sociologist trained in military sociology and social psychology, he focuses his research in gender, work, and family issues including bias in performance evaluations, retention of women, dual career families, military families, and women in the military.

Dr. Smith is the co-author of Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace.

On today’s episode, we discuss how husbands can be better allies for their wives who work outside the home

Enjoy the show.

Questions answered during the show

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:11 Some listeners might not be convinced that women face gender specific obstacles at work. How can you convince those listeners otherwise?
0:06:16 Beyond doing the right thing for their wives, how would husbands and families benefit from women receiving support from home and in the workplace to thrive in their careers?
0:12:28 Let’s assume you want to do more than help your wife, but you want to help all women in the workplace. Could you name two or three key things excellent male leaders, allies, and mentors for women actually do?
0:17:50 A lot of men are concerned about the inequities their wives face in the workplace and are committed to fixing systems that hold back women they care about. What can be done from home by supportive husbands?
0:23:54 Where can listeners learn more about you and where can they purchase your latest book?
0:24:36 What is one simple and actionable piece of advice that you would like to share with our listeners based on today’s discussion?

Resources

Workplace Allies https://www.workplaceallies.com/
Professional Background: Dr. David Smith https://carey.jhu.edu/faculty/david-smith-phd
Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Guys-Better-Allies-Workplace/dp/1633698726

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Kathy Stokes, a nationally recognized leader in the consumer fraud arena. As Director of Fraud Prevention Programs with AARP, Kathy leads AARP’s social mission work to educate older adults on the risks that fraud represents to their financial security. Since 2019, she and her team have vastly expanded AARP’s leadership in this space, including the creation of a new victim support program, a multi-year campaign to end the use of gift cards in fraud, and the formation of a national effort to fundamentally transform how our country addresses consumer fraud. Kathy currently serves on the advisory council to the Board of the International Association of Financial Crimes Investigators and on the advisory council to the Senior Issues and Diminished Capacity Committee of the North American Securities Administrators Association.

For today’s topic, we will discuss modern fraud prevention strategies that are practical and can help keep your family safe.

Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:30 How can husbands and fathers effectively communicate with their families about the risks of consumer fraud without causing unnecessary fear?
0:07:13 What are the common tactics fraudsters use that families should be aware of to protect themselves?
0:19:07 Are there specific financial security measures that folks should prioritize to safeguard their families from potential fraud?
0:22:45 How can families navigate the balance between convenience and security in their online financial transactions and interactions?
0:28:47 What resources or tools do you recommend for those who want to stay proactive in protecting their own parents who are likely elderly from the ever-evolving landscape of consumer fraud?
0:32:18 What is one piece of simple and actionable advice you want our listeners to walk away knowing from today’s episode?

Resources

AARP Fraud Watch Network
AARP Fraud Watch NetworkTM is a free resource for all. With AARP as your partner, you’ll learn how to proactively spot scams, get guidance from our fraud specialists if you’ve been targeted, and feel more secure knowing that we advocate at the federal, state, and local levels to protect consumers and enforce the law.
https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/about-fraud-watch-network/

AARP Fraud helpline: 877-908-3360

AARP: Get Tips to Avoid Scams & Fraud
Get tips to spot and avoid scams like identity theft, investment fraud and holiday scams, as well as ongoing updates from resources like Watchdog Alerts and a scam-tracking map that provides real-time alerts from law enforcement in your state.
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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Feraud Calixte. Mr. Calixte is an attorney and CFP, currently working as a Senior Financial Advisor at Modera Wealth Management. He is a National Association of Personal Financial Advisors (NAPFA) National Board Member, a Fee-Only Network Society of Financial Service Professionals (FSP) member, and an Investment News 40 under 40 Emerging Leader. My Calixte has been quoted by various publications, such as the U.S. News & World Report, Yahoo Finance, Investment News, and NAPFA Advisor

On today’s episode, we discuss how the common challenges couples encounter when planning for retirement together and how they can be addressed, among other essential topics to help married couples realize their retirement dreams.

Questions Addressed

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:30 How can listeners know whether or not their financial planner is putting their interests ahead of their own?
0:07:50 We keep seeing influencers on social media tell us that 401ks are a scam and we should invest for retirement using IULs and Whole Life Cash Value Policies. What are they talking about?
0:14:10 What legal and estate planning considerations should married couples keep in mind as they prepare for retirement? For example, what are the differences between a living trust and a will, and when does a living trust make the most sense for married couples?
0:20:34 What are some common challenges couples may encounter when planning for retirement together, and how can they be addressed?
0:24:57 What resources or professional guidance are available to help married couples navigate the complexities of retirement planning?
0:29:21 Where can listeners go to learn more about you?
0:32:00 What is one simple and actionable piece of advice you want to share with listeners over today’s topic?

Resources

Feraud Calixte, CFP® https://www.linkedin.com/in/feraudcalixte/
National Association of Personal Financial Advisors https://www.napfa.org/
Feraud on Twitter https://twitter.com/Feraud_Calixte

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Leah Hadley, an experienced mediator, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, and Accredited Financial Counselor, is committed to providing compassionate financial guidance through life transitions. She will tell you she's had many challenging financial times in her adult life–adopting a sibling group of three, getting divorced, and building a business from the ground up to name a few. These have been times when her ability to hunt down appropriate resources and careful financial planning was critical to her peace of mind.

A former investment analyst and sought-after speaker, Leah is the founder of Intentional Divorce Solutions and Intentional Wealth Partners. Leah uses her knowledge and more than 15 years of experience to help her clients make intentional financial decisions.

Show Notes

00:00: Introduction
01:00: What is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst?
02:06: Do you work with one spouse going through a divorce or both spouses?
06:08: What is the difference between folks who come in as couples to work through the process together versus those who come in individually?
08:23: Why do you believe divorce rates are so high?
10:10: Have you noticed a trend of certain problems that have built up beyond repair, that could have been prevented early on? If so, what are they?
17:37: How much of your practice is based on the stress and problems caused by money?
20:03: What advice do you have for spouses who want to address common issues early in a marriage to prevent them from snowballing out of control?
24:14 What are women thinking that they are not saying to husbands?
27:55 Where can folks learn more about you?
29:32 What is one piece of simple advice that you want to leave the listeners with?

Links
https://www.instagram.com/intentionaldivorcesolutions/
https://www.youtube.com/@IntentionalDivorceInsights
https://www.linkedin.com/in/leahahadley/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Gary Barker. Dr. Barker is the CEO and co-founder of Equimundo and MenCare. Dr. Barker advises the UN, the World Bank, national governments, international foundations and corporations. He is an Ashoka Fellow and Voices of Solidarity Award WInner.

Today’s podcast is a recording of our special event held on February 15th. Dr. Barker addresses questions such as how husbands can show their spouses they care, the dynamics of when wives earn more than their husbands, how fathers can overcome the obstacles of being caregivers, and how men can become closer with their loved ones.

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Brad Wilcox. Dr. Wilcox is a Professor of Sociology at the University of Virginia, where he directs the National Marriage Project and a senior fellow at the Institute for Family Studies. Wilcox also currently serves as a nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). He has been a research fellow at Yale University, a research associate at Princeton University, and a Civitas Fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Today’s discussion will center around his new book, Get Married, and the evidence-based ideas highlighting the advantages of marriage and how to maintain a strong and happy marriage.

Enjoy the show.

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:07 Fast Facts: A fun and fast series of quick Q&A:
Men MUST be the financial provider or men must be CAPABLE of being the financial provider?
What percentage of marriages end in divorce?
What percentage of American adults are married?
True or false: Couples who take more date nights are happier and have more stable marriages.
True or false: Since 1980, the divorce rate has increased.
True or false: The marriage rate has fallen about 65 percent in the last half century.
True or false: Couples who identified more with a “team” mindset, who regularly sacrificed for one another, and, and who shared the same bank account and last name, were more likely to be satisfied with their sex.
0:02:33 Cutting across all socioeconomic, what is the greatest predictor of happiness?
0:03:53 Which groups most commonly contain the happiest spouses?
0:06:00 How do you differentiate stability and happiness in marriage?
0:06:38 Let’s assume you're answering questions after one of your lectures at the University of Virginia. One college student strongly believes that the first priority in finding a spouse is ensuring it is your soulmate. Another student argues that the happiest marriages are not spouses who are soulmates, but rather put their family first. Who is right, and why?
0:08:38 The importance of weekly date nights
0:13:49 Which spousal approach leads to a happier marriage: We Before Me or Me Before We? Why?
0:18:43 What can happen when a husband only brings home the bacon and fails to help manage the home and spend too little time with your spouse?
0:21:02 What are the four behaviors that Gottman came to describe as the “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse,” that is, harbingers of marital failure?
0:30:34: From your perspective, what are the five pillars upon which they are forging strong and stable family-first marriages?
0:35:58: Where can listeners purchase your book, Get Married?

Purchase Get Married: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/get-married-brad-wilcox?variant=41059498917922

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Sherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Eve Rodsky transformed a “blueberries breakdown” into a catalyst for social change when she applied her Harvard trained background in organizational management to ask the simple yet profound question: What would happen if we treated our homes as our most important organizations?

Her New York Times bestselling book and Reese’s Book Club Pick, Fair Play, is a gamified life-management system that helps partners rebalance their domestic workload and reimagine their relationship. Her book was also the inspiration for the Apple TV documentary Fair Play.

Eve Rodsky received her B.A. in economics and anthropology from the University of Michigan and her J.D. from Harvard Law School.

Today we will discuss how you can use the Fair Play System to manage your home as a team with your partner.

Questions answered by Eve

00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:28 What do husbands have to say after experiencing the Fair Play System?
00:04:20 What prompted building out the Fair Play system?
00:12:15 Can you walk us through the basics of your Fair Play system?
00:24:39 A brilliant example of success using the Fair Play System that husbands will love.
00:31:01 Why men hurt when they don’t have a role in their home
00:37:48 How do you work with your spouse to manage all of the food responsibilities?
00:44:28 Why is the Fair Play book, the Fair Play cards, or the Fair Play documentary the ideal Valentine’s Day gift?
00:45:40 Where can our listeners learn more about Fair Play?
00:46:15 Valentine’s Day Assignment

Learn more about the Fair Play System: https://www.fairplaylife.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Bruce Ross, Christian Scherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Manisha Thakor who has worked in financial services for over 30-years and is a nationally recognized thought-leader around the issues of financial literacy and education. Manisha's work has been featured in national media such as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Barron’s, CNN, and CNBC. She has written two personal finance books for young people in their 20s and 30s.

Manisha earned her MBA from Harvard Business School, her BA from Wellesley College and holds the CFA and CFP designations.

For today’s episode, we will discuss the lessons from her latest book MoneyZen: The Secret to Finding Your “Enough.” We tackle the tough questions we ask ourselves as we try to balance our career ambitions, our family obligations, and our self worth.

Enjoy today’s show.

Questions Answered in the Podcast

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:15 In your book, MoneyZen: The Secret to Finding Your “Enough,” you talk about being trapped in the “Cult of Never Enough” and how this cult nearly destroyed your relationships, your health, and your self-esteem. Tell us more.
0:06:20 You spent two years researching the causes of a never enough mindset. What did you discover?
0:20:58 Manisha shares the difference between workaholism and appropriate devotion to work
0:23:37 What is the key to finding your “enough?"
0:35:13 What is the difference between money "problems" and money "worries?”
0:40:02 Where can our listeners learn more about you and purchase your book?
0:41:19 What are one or two things listeners to this podcast can do right now to help get closer to a life of MoneyZen?

Social media

Linked In: @ManishaThakor
Twitter/X: @ManishaThakor
Facebook: @ManishaThakor
Instagram: @ManishaThakor

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian Scherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome the world renowned Dr. Joshua Coleman. Dr. Coleman is a psychologist in private practice and Senior Fellow with the Council on Contemporary Families. He has written for The New York Times, The Atlantic, and more. He has been a frequent guest on the Today Show and NPR and has been featured on Sesame Street, 20/20, and Good Morning America.

Dr. Coleman is the author of The Lazy Husband. He understands the challenges husbands face as we try to be supportive spouses. In this episode Dr. Coleman shares why husbands are often unfairly and unknowingly seen as lazy around the home and as caregivers and how to break through the common barriers that stand in the way of working with your spouse to manage the home as a team.

Show Notes

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:00 What inspired Dr. Coleman to focus on the topic of men's involvement in parenting and housework.
0:03:16 Dr. Coleman elaborates on the challenges couples face when it comes to achieving a balance in parenting and household responsibilities, specifically addressing men's roles.
0:11:09 Common misconceptions or stereotypes identified in research that contribute to the perception of husbands as "lazy" in terms of parenting and housework.
0:14:30 Practical tips that couples can implement to help husbands feel more involved as parents and in the home.
0:17:19 How the concept of emotional labor plays a role in the division of responsibilities, and what can couples do to address and distribute it more equitably.
0:23:22 The importance of creating a supportive environment for men to take on more responsibilities and the role of mutual respect in achieving this balance.
0:29:10 How couples can navigate potential resistance or reluctance from women when it comes to allowing husbands to do household chores their own way.
0:33:05 Where listeners can go to learn more about your work and purchase your books.
0:33:53 One piece of simple and actionable advice you want our listeners to walk away knowing from today’s episode.

Learn more about Dr. Joshua Coleman: https://www.drjoshuacoleman.com/
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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian Scherrill, and Brian Page host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Today we welcome Dr. Preston Cherry. Dr. Cherry holds a Ph.D. in Personal Financial Planning. He is an Accredited Financial Counselor AFC®, Certified Financial Therapist CFT-I™, and Certified Financial Planner CFP®. In 2021 & 2022, he was recognized as one of Investopedia’s 100 Top Financial Advisors.

Today we will discuss how younger and middle aged spouses can work together to build a dream marriage in retirement. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes

0:00:00 Introduction
0:00:52 Dr. Cherry recently married, and shares a bit about his first few months of marriage.
0:05:21 Understanding and embracing cultural, faith, family differences between spouses.
0:07:25 The most important financial lessons about transitioning into marriage.
0:09:56 The psychological obstacles Dr. Cherry sees that most often stand in the way of couples investing enough for retirement.
0:18:52 Strategies couples can use to work through the obstacles to invest enough for retirement.
0:25:33 Essential investing retirement plan fundamentals some couples miss.
0:30:36 A critical reframe of the 401k match.
0:33:05 The emotional HSA

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https://www.concurrentfp.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

This week we are honored to welcome Ron Lieber. Ron is the author of The Opposite of Spoiled: Raising Kids Who Are Grounded, Generous, and Smart About Money, and “The Price You Pay for College: An Entirely New Roadmap for the Biggest Financial Decision Your Family Will Ever Make.” Ron has been the “Your Money” columnist for The New York Times since 2008.

Most recently, Ron authored the online course for parents, The Price You Pay for College: Understanding Merit Aid.

The goal of this episode is to help parents understand college aid to fully understand the financial implications of college award letters.

Show Notes

0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:00 Ron explains merit aid and how it can play into the emotions of parents
0:08:01 The difference between a loan and merit aid
0:13:40 Will high academic achievers begin to receive NIL money and the difference between merit aid and need-based aid
0:19:40 Whether most schools offer merit aid, and if so, whether the children of affluent parents qualify
0:30:42 The various reasons that schools give merit aid
0:37:20 When schools inform applicants of how much merit aid they qualify for and how long they last
0:38:50 Where parents can learn more about merit aid
0:40:45 One simple piece of advice Ron wants listeners to leave the conversation with

Resources:
https://meritaidcourse.com/
https://studentloanplanner.lpages.co/modern-husbands/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share ideas to manage money and the home as teammates.

Today’s guest is the Godfather of the FIRE Movement, JL Collins. JL’s first book, The Simple Path to Wealth, has sold over 500,000 copies worldwide.

If you’re looking for ideas to reach your financial new year’s resolution goals, look no further than JL Collin’s wisdom shared in Simple Path to Wealth, and his new book, Pathfinders, Extraordinary Stories of People Like You on the Quest for Financial Independence―And How to Join Them.

Enjoy today’s discussion with JL Collins who will help you be your own pathfinder to begin your year.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:32 JL helps our listeners understand what the FIRE movement is and the different types of FIRE movements.
02:47 JL shares ideas for listeners who might not want to go all-in on the FIRE movement but want to apply some of his countless lessons
05:35 FU money
08:43 Why a house is a lousy investment, and other pitfalls of spending money you don’t have.
11:53 JL’s approach to eliminating the chains of debt.
14:15 The most important rules of the road for couples who want to save more.
17:04 Defining and explaining the power of investing in index funds
23:01 How to manage money in a way to have less stress and more freedom in your life.
29:54 Conclusion

Resources

JL Collins website

Pathfinders: Extraordinary Stories of People Like You on the Quest for Financial Independence―And How to Join Them

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Chris has mastered the art of the deal as a business and sales professional for 20+ years. Ericka has helped 500+ clients and various corporate audiences get real and naked with money for 18 years. Together they have leveraged this corporate and real-world experience for their own bottom line. Most importantly, Chris and Ericka have been married for nearly 25 years. They both grew up in single-parent households and didn’t have a lot of excess money to go around. As a result, they wanted to provide a more stable foundation for their two daughters.

Chris and Ericka have successfully become millionaires, helped one daughter graduate from college debt-free and the other one is on her way. Through their podcast, For Better & Worth, they are here to show you that a healthy net worth and a happy, lasting relationship is possible.

Links

• For Better & Worth
• Download free: “You’re doing it backward: 7 Reasons Your Money Relationship Isn’t Working with Your Partner”

Show Notes

0:00 Introduction
1:35 Everyone picks on Brian for being an Ohio State Football fan :-)
3:36 A few examples of moments that are easy for Ericka, Chris, and Brian to give advice on but are hard for them to do
12:15 Whether to involve a financial planner on a money date / conversation with your partner
14:05 Brian shares his experience trying to time the stock market
16:54 How to remind yourselves to meet regularly to talk about money
28:45 Chris and Ericka’s non-negotiables in their financial lives
32:40 The financial floors and ceilings of the non financial negotiables
34:53 Brian and Hope’s non-negotiables in their financial lives
37:40 What steps Dr. Ross has taken during the engagement process that have been most beneficial to you thus far

Five driving questions from Dr. Ross:

• What brought you joy or excitement this past week?
• Is there anything I have done to hurt you this past week that we can repair now?
• What are you looking forward to in the upcoming week?
• What’s something worrisome/hard that’s happening in the upcoming week(s)? Is there something I can do to help?
• What can I do next week to make you feel more loved?

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Dr. Scott Rick is an award winning teacher and researcher at the University of Michigan's Ross School of Business. Dr. Rick received his PhD in Behavioral Decision Research and his research focuses on understanding the emotional causes and consequences of consumer financial decision-making, with a particular interest in the behavior of tightwads and spendthrifts.

Dr. Rick is the author of Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships, which we will be talking about today.

Show Notes

00:00 Introduction
01:32 Dr. Rick shares a little about the psychology of tightwads and spendthrifts.
05:22 Whether we tend to marry people with similar feelings toward spending money, or do opposites attract.
07:27 Who usually wins when tightwad and spendthrift partners disagree about spending decisions.
10:25 How bank account structure influences relationship quality in a spendthrift tightwad relationship
18:34 How damaging can "financial infidelity" really be and how much detail partners should know about each other’s personal spending decisions
26:26 Whether prenups in a first marriage are generally good or bad.
30:43 How to ask our partner what kind of gift they would like
42:13 Summarizing how tightwads and spendthrifts use gift-giving occasions to strengthen their relationship.
43:22 Whether kids are more likely to be influenced by what they hear their parents say or what they see them do.
50:36 Whether we should marry for love, for money, or for both.
53:37 One piece of simple and actionable advice from Dr. Rick.

Where listeners can learn purchase Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250280077/tightwadsandspendthrifts

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Katrina Onstad is a Scotiabank Giller Prize-nominated writer. One of her books, The Weekend Effect, brilliantly chronicles the birth, death and revival of the weekend.

Her journalism has appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The Guardian, Toronto Life and The Walrus. She’s won several National Magazine Awards and was an American National Magazine Award finalist.

And as it pertains to today’s topic, her book, The Weekend Effect, Katrina will share with busy spouses and families how to get our weekends back.

0:00:00 Introduction
0:00:55 A history of where the weekend came from
0:06:00 What is pushing the shift to losing our weekends to work
0:04:04 The weekend impact on personal happiness
0:10:22 How the weekend impacts the personal and relational happiness
0:17:22 Why weekends be framed in a similar way as vacations
0:23:12 Additional weekend happiness hacks to truly relax on the weekend
0:26:30 Where our listeners learn more about you or follow Katrina
0:27:38 Chores, screens, and shopping
0:29:12 One piece of easily actionable advice for our listeners

Purchase The Weekend Effect: The Life Changing Benefits of Taking Two Days Off

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

Join your fellow modern husbands and have links to our podcasts, articles, and other resources to manage money and the home as a team sent to your inbox every couple of weeks by subscribing to our newsletter at modernhusbands.com.

This week we are honored to welcome Rob Cross, who is the Edward A. Madden Professor of Global Leadership, Babson College and co-founder and current research director of the Connected Commons, a consortium of over 100 leading organizations accelerating network research and practice.

Rob is also the author of the Microstress Effect.

For today’s show, Rob will bring to life best practices that show you how to build resilience against microstress, and ultimately how to find purpose in your everyday life, using it as an antidote to your own microstress.

Enjoy the show.

Show Notes
0:00 Introduction
1:05 The compounding consequences of microstress
9:00 How microstress impacts the overall well-being and productivity in the workplace
11:05 Some common sources of microstress in modern work environments, and how can organizations mitigate their negative effects
17:45 How the accumulation of microstress over time contributes to personal relationships, in particular, marriage
20:27 Effective strategies or interventions that individuals can adopt to manage and cope with microstress on a daily basis
29:34 About Rob’s book, the Microstress Effect

Resources
The Microstress Effect: BookThe Rob Cross Home Page

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Welcome to a special edition of the Modern Husbands podcast. This episode is a recording of our live event: Managing Money Talks in a Blended Family.

The event guests were Ed Coambs and Mikel Van Cleve.

Ed is the President of the Financial Therapy Association, a licensed marriage and family therapist, CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™, and Certified Financial Therapist-I™. Ed is the founder of HealthyLoveandMoney.com, an organization on a mission to help couples transform their relationship through learning, healing, and growing.

Mikel Van Cleve, CFP® is a doctoral student at Texas Tech University in the Personal Financial Planning program. He's a Certified Financial Behavior Specialist® and Certified Employee Benefit Specialist® with 20 years of experience in the financial services industry. Mikel's academic research is focused on understanding the complex dynamics of money management within blended families. Mikel and his wife, Heather, are in a blended family, which has fueled his passion for research on an ever-increasing population segment.

Let’s begin today’s special edition of the Modern Husbands Podcast with Mikel sharing why he started the Ph.D. program at Texas Tech, focusing on money in blended families.

Show Notes

0:00: Introduction
1:19: The origin of Mikel’s passion for his professional expertise
2:04: How Ed’s own family dynamic shapes his curiosity and professional expertise in financial intimacy and the four attachment styles
4:39: Defining financial intimacy and the four attachment styles
6:12: Mike defines various types of blended families
12:26: Mikel shares a bit about his research on money and blended families
18:40: Mikel and Ed share scenarios that are especially difficult for blended families to manage and discuss strategies for managing the situations and the conversations. Each issue involves children and bonus children.

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This week we are honored to welcome Dr. Michelle Kruger CFP®, who holds a Ph.D. in Financial Planning, Housing, and Consumer Economics. Her dissertation focused on Financial Satisfaction and the Joint Financial Management of Couples.

Dr. Kruger is also the author of The Psychology of Financial Planning: Practitioner Resource Guide. as well as other articles and case studies for CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ practitioners. She is currently a Senior Financial Planner at Gratus Capital as well as a Part-Time Lecturer at the University of Georgia and Modern Husbands Advisory Board Member.

For today’s show we are going to discuss how couples can agree about how they spend money.

Show Notes

0:00 Introduction

1:18 How Dr. Kruger uses her educational background to support her married clients and the importance of both spouses attending and engaging in financial planning meetings.

7:20 Dr. Kruger and Dr. Ross work through questions she poses to couples, the purpose of the questions, and some of the challenges she sees couples face, and how to work through them.

• 8:00 Q1 What are our long term goals as a couple/household?
• 12:20 Q2 and Q3 Do we agree on how we spend and save our money?
• 18:10 Understanding the psychology behind why it is so hard for many to save for the future but spend in the moment
• 25:44 Q4 Do we align in our willingness and comfort level when it comes to taking risk?

33:54 Q5 Who is responsible for day-to-day management of household finances and planning for the future? Will it be a joint activity or will one person be primarily responsible? And once an arrangement is decided on, are both partners truly comfortable with that arrangement?

39:37 One piece of easily actionable advice for our listeners

Michelle Kruger, Ph.D., CFP®
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krugermichelle/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

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This week, we are excited to welcome Lesli Doares, a marriage and family therapist focusing largely on supporting men. Combined with her professional experience and an almost 40-year relationship with her husband, she has created a paradigm shift in marriage to become a space where both partners feel loved, respected, and included.

Leslie is also the author of Blueprint for a Lasting Marriage: How to Create Your Happily Ever After with More Intention, Less Work and, Hero Husband: How to Make Your Wife (and You) Happy.

For today, we will discuss strategies men can use in marriage to reduce conflict. Enjoy the show.

Show Notes
0:00 Introduction
1:15 What led Leslie to become a marriage coach for men.
5:40 How couples can navigate conflicts and disagreements effectively to maintain a healthy relationship
10:01 Suggestions for parents to work together to ensure consistency in parenting styles
15:35 Some common patterns or dynamics that can contribute to marital dissatisfaction, and how can they be addressed
18:16 How to address tough and emotional conversations when you don’t have the time to talk about the issue thoughtfully
22:33 Additional communication strategies couples can use to improve their connection and understanding
25:35: Issues/challenges men face in their marriages that Leslie offers support with

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Today’s guest is Laurie Israel. Laurie is a national prenuptial agreement mediator, consultant, lawyer, and author of "The Generous Prenup: How to Support Your Marriage and Avoid the Pitfalls.”

For today’s show we will discuss when prenups are appropriate, when they’re not, and the damage they can cause.

Show Notes

0:00-1:40 Introduction
1:41-4:51 Who should get a prenup and the situations that make sense for a prenup.
4:52-11:49 Who should not get a prenup.
11:50-17:59 The drawbacks of prenups.
18:00-20:56 The best process to embark on getting a prenup if you are going to get one.
20:57-25:18 The pitfalls of prenups that happen during the process once it starts.
25:19-27:03 The best way to pick a prenup attorney.
27:04-30:24 The provisions that are in “bad” prenups, the “good” or “helpful” provisions in a prenup.
30:25-31:25 Whether a prenup has to be fair.
31:26-32:15 What happens to a marriage when there’s a bad prenup.
32:16-32:54 One piece of simple and actionable advice from Laurie for considering a prenup.
32:55-34:00 Conclusion

Resources
Laurie’s website: https://www.laurieisrael.com/
Laurie’s book, The Generous Prenup https://www.laurieisrael.com/book/

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Today’s guest is Yanely Espinal.

Yanely is the author of Mind Your Money, the host of Financially Inclined from Marketplace, and Director of Educational Outreach for Next Gen Personal Finance. In 2015 she started MissBeHelpful, a YouTube channel that now has over 4 million views, to help others learn the money skills she never learned in school.

Yanely will share her success stories: overcoming over $20,000 in credit card debt, her new book Mind Your Money, and how her partner supports her as a high achiever.

Enjoy the show.

Purchase Yanely's book: https://www.mindyourmoneybook.com/

Show Notes

0:00-2:00: Introduction

2:01: How Yanely observed her parents in a traditional home and money management structure, and how she approaches it differently.

5:02: How she, and many others, fall into the credit card debt trap.

7:20: Yanely shares a story, similar to the stories we all have from our childhood, about wearing your sister’s Jordan’s when you were really young and how that story shaped her spending habits in early adulthood.

14:32: Yanely shares how to stay trendy without overspending, and it all started with her losing everything in an apartment fire. (This should be the social media post)

17:28: Yanely shares a bit about her partnership.

22:26: Yanely provides an overview and context about how she and her partner manage money together.

26:48: Yanely shares the details of how she and her partner manage money together.
31:27: A must listen portion of our episode about how Jamil and Yanely support each other in their careers.

36:05: For our younger listeners out there in particular, what are three essential ideas from your book they need to hear that can improve their lives?

38:36: Essential advice for couples who are still dating on how to approach money conversations early in a relationship.

40:34: Three key lessons learned in Yanely’s book Mind Your Money

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Today’s guest is Andrew Johnston, a national health, exercise, and fitness expert. His accomplishments include:

• Former Professional Cyclist and Leukemia Survivor
• CHEK Master Practitioner
• Holistic Lifestyle Coach Level 3
• Certified ELDOA Trainer
• 2x Men's Health Top Trainers in America
• Author: Holistic Strength Training for Triathlon and Spot On: Nutrition
• Subject of the award-winning documentary Living is Winning.

Andrew responds to the following questions:

• What was your favorite triathlon victory?
• What exercise myths do you hear most frequently?
• What are some common health challenges faced by men as we age, and how can we proactively address them?
• What are the core components of regular exercise routines?
• What are common dietary myths that you hear most frequently?
• Is eating organic all that it’s cracked up to be? Why or why not?
• What are examples of quick, nutritious meals and snacks our families can eat on-the-go?
• What are some nutritional “hacks” or shortcuts that can help us maintain a balanced diet?

We are going to play “This or That”. We will ask you to choose between two options, and you share which is better for our health. This is rapid fire, so explanations are needed. Assume each food option is organic.

• Grilled chicken or Smoked Salmon?
• White rice or brown rice?
• Almond milk or milk?
• Fried chicken sandwich or cheeseburger?
• Water or gatorade?
• Broccoli or Carrots?
• Lettuce or Spinach?
• Bourbon or vodka?
• Beer or wine?
• 15 minute jog or 30 minutes walking on an incline?
• 30 minute jog or 30 minutes of High Intensity Interval Training ( HIIT) training?
• 15 minute jog or 15 minutes of stretching?
• 30 minutes cycling or 30 minutes on the elliptical?

Where to learn more about Andrew, purchase his books, and meet with him:

• https://triumphtraining.com/

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where any combination of Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share winning ideas to manage money and the home as a team.

We welcome Dr. Jenny G. Olson, an Assistant Professor of Marketing at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business. Dr. Olson is also a Modern Husbands Advisory Board Member.

Her research focuses on consumer behavior within interpersonal contexts, such as the interplay between money and couples' relationship formation and quality (e.g., how partners' bank account structure, financial infidelity, and conversations about money affect relationship and financial well-being).

In other words, she’s going to help us understand the money management strategies couples use that actually lead to a happier marriage.

Listen as Dr. Olson responds to these questions, and much more:

• What drew you to this topic?
• Why did you choose to run an experiment, specifically? What did you find?
• Why do you think joint account holders fared better?
• Any differences by income or gender? What about the people who dropped out of the study?
• Do you think joint vs. separate bank accounts are ideal for all couples? Or are there important nuances?
• What's the one piece of advice you'd give young couples?

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Silvia de Denaro Vieira is the CEO and Co–Founder of Coexist. Today we will speak with her and her partner Hugh. They will share their evolution of managing a home together and how they use the mobile app Coexist to do so.

During this episode Silvia, and her partner, Hugh, respond to the following questions:

• How do you and your partner plan to divide the household management responsibilities?
• Hugh, in watching Silvia build Coexist, have there been things you’ve learned and been able to apply personally to your home?
• What advice do you have for men who want to be equal partners in the home?
• Can you share the inspiration behind creating this app designed to enhance collaboration between couples in managing household responsibilities?
• What are some of the common challenges or pain points that couples face when it comes to money management and household tasks, and how does your app address them?
• Can you walk us through the key features of your app, Coexist, and how they facilitate better teamwork and communication for couples?
• In what ways does your app, Coexist, encourage transparency and trust between partners ?
• How have you incorporated elements of psychology or relationship dynamics into the design of your app to ensure it fosters healthy collaboration between couples?
• What advice do you have for couples who are just starting to use your app? Are there any best practices or tips for maximizing its effectiveness?

Enjoy today’s show.

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For today, Julia Carpenter of the Wall Street Journal will share some of the money wisdom she has gained in her career journey, including her current personal finance reporting with the Wall Street Journal.

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Scott Glasgow is the Founder of FinMango, an international program making financial literacy and inclusion universally accessible and useful to 1,000,000+ youth per year. He has received international recognition in dozens of media articles, including a U.S. News & World Report Op-Ed, CNN, The New York Times, NBC, The Daily Beast, and TIME Magazine. He is a 2x TEDx speaker. Mr. Glasgow’s formal education includes the Harvard Kennedy School Executive Education: Rethinking Financial Inclusion; an MA in Financial Economics, and BA in Biology and Community Health.

Matt Frey is the Communications Director and Policy Advisor for Kentucky State Treasurer Allison Ball. Before joining Treasurer Ball’s staff, he was the Executive Director of the Kentucky Financial Empowerment Commission (KFEC).

At KFEC, Frey started the Kentucky Financial Educators Network, the Kentucky Bank On Network, and the Financial Empowerment for Commonwealth Employees program. Each of these programs helps improve the financial literacy and financial education of Kentuckians.

Matt Frey has five years of experience researching financial literacy and financial education. This was done most recently with Dr. Annamaria Lusardi at the Global Financial Literacy Excellence Center in Washington, D.C. Frey is a native of Melbourne, KY, and a graduate of Northern Kentucky University, as well as George Washington University.

Questions answered in the podcast:

• Can you each take a moment to walk us through your career journey, beginning with college, to provide context for our listeners? Let’s start with you Matt, and then Scott.
• How to start the conversation of what your finances really look like? (commonality of not even knowing yourself)
• What are common financial pain points for pre-marriage couples? (e.g. student loans, credit card debt, investment decisions and goals, family planning, life planning goals)
• What is your plan to handle conflict (around money or really anything) when it does arise?
• What are your views on premarital therapy?
• During the pre-marriage planning process - how do you negotiate finances around the wedding planning vs. long-term financial planning?
• People are waiting longer to get married. What are the hesitations for adults in their 20s and 30s from getting married?
• This day in age, it is common for people to move for work/jobs, how do you negotiate that process when you have a spouse?
• How do you know when to stay or take the new opportunity when the other has a career already set where you are currently living? (especially with young professionals)

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Rudy Salo is an infrastructure finance attorney at Nixon Peabody LLP, representing governmental entities and financial institutions in financing transportation systems and other infrastructure.

Rudy graduated from Georgetown University Law Center and UCLA magna cum laude in Political Science. He is the Forbes transportation contributor and podcast co-host for Good Is In The Details.

Questions answered during the podcast

• Why are you so passionate about transportation?
• What article that you have written for Forbes has been your favorite, and why?
• The future of transportation is now. Can you walk us through the thinking and numbers behind deciding between a gas or electric car?
• You are a modern husband yourself. What does your wife do, and how do you work together to manage the home and support each other’s careers?

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John brings 30 years of Wall Street & small business ownership experience to his clients at Verbatim Financial, the flat flee Registered Investment Advisor he founded in 2019. Decades in finance taught John that banks, broker-dealers, insurance companies, etc. do not have their customers’ best interests in mind, but only their profits, so he’s dedicated to increasing financial literacy and preventing as many people as possible from being taken advantage of.

John also founded FlatFeeAdvisors.Org as a resource for folks looking for financial advisors who manage investments for a flat annual fee, rather than a percentage of assets under management. John is a 2023 Plutus Award Finalist for Best Financial Advisor Content Creator.

John addresses the following the following questions this episode:

• Can you take a moment to walk us through your career journey, beginning with college, to provide context for our listeners?
• So you’re married, right? How many kids do you have? How do you and your wife manage the home and money together?
• You are a certified financial planner, can you explain what that means relative to the fiduciary standard?
• How can you spot whether a financial planner is ripping you off?
• What is one piece of advice our listeners need to walk away understanding?

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Tommy Maloney is the Executive producer and host of the podcast Blending The Family, where you can find Apple Podcasts, iheartRadio, Spotify, and Stitcher Radio.

Tommy has spoken at TEDx Loveland, Ignite Fort Collins and was a Keynote Speaker at Everything Dad Convention. He has even won speaking awards through Toastmasters International.

The author of the book "25 Tips For Divorced Dads." "Why not you, Why Not Me" and His new book, "My Dad's Advice At 5:04 AM,". He has written for magazines: The Good Men Project, Modern Gladiator, and Nurture Magazine. Plus, he is a writing contributor to The Greeley Tribune.

Tommy enjoys a good red blend while writing or hiding from the family. A dad to Betsy, Becca, Connor, and Duke (RIP), Otis. A husband to Ann.

Questions answered in this podcast:

• Tell us about your family.
• For listeners who are new to a blended family or considering taking that step, what is one thing you believe they should know?
• What are some effective strategies for managing finances in a blended family, considering the unique dynamics and financial responsibilities involved?
• What financial considerations should husbands keep in mind when planning for the future, such as college expenses, retirement, and estate planning in a blended family?
• How can husbands navigate the complexities of financial support, such as child support and alimony, while managing their own family's financial well-being in a blended family?
• How do you and your wife manage discipline with all of the kids?
• What are three lessons from your book you believe our listeners would benefit the most from?

Where listeners learn more about the Blending the Family podcast and his books:

• Podcast: Blending The Family
• Book: 25 Tips For Divorced Dads
• Book: Why not you, Why Not Me
• Book: My Dad's Advice At 5:04 AM

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John Eringman is a personal finance influencer, continuous self educator, and content creator who passionately shares personal finance tips to over one million followers. He is a graduate from the University of Cincinnati with a major in Finance.

You can find him @johnefinance on Tiktok, Youtube, & Instagram!

John will respond to the following questions:

• Where does your passion for personal finance come from?
• Tell us about how you got started making personal finance simple for people to understand.
• What was your first social media clip that went viral?
• I understand you are engaged, how did you ask?
• What are a few examples of the money conversations you are having with your soon to be bride?
• What financial plans have you made with your soon to be bride that you are most excited about?
• Assume you are an everyday person listening to this show, what are three practical personal finance tips you believe are most important to share?

The Modern Husbands Podcast is a Plutus Award Finalist for Best Personal Finance Content Series

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Nate Astle is the Founder of the Financial Therapy Clinical Institute. He is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Certified Financial Therapist. He specializes in couples, emotions and money, and financial trauma. As a past board member of the Financial Therapy Association, he has been featured in numerous outlets like CNBC, USA Today, TD Ameritrade, and Money Geek.

Today’s discussion will focus on how to argue less about money.

Nate will respond to a number of questions, including:

• Can you walk us through your professional background and share a bit about what you do now?
• When should couples begin to have conversations about money?
• What are examples of how couples can first prompt conversations about money?
• What most commonly triggers fights about money?
• What are strategies you can use to manage money with your spouse without fighting?
• What is one simple and actionable strategy you want our listeners to walk away understanding?

Website: Financial Therapy Clinical Institute
LinkedIn: Company Website

Podcast Sponsor: Money Marriage U

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We're thrilled to share our latest podcast episode featuring Tracey Brigman, EdD, MS, RDN, LD, Clinical Associate Professor and Director of the UGA College of Family and Consumer Sciences Education Degree program at the esteemed The University of Georgia.

Dr. Brigman will share fast and healthy options for busy couples and families, practical tips for healthy snacking, meal planning hacks for meal planning for men and families, and modest changes you can make to what you eat to feel happier and healthier without dieting.

Questions addressed in the podcast:

• How do you recommend preparing fast and healthy options for busy couples and families? Walk us through this from making your grocery list to what you do with leftovers.
• What are practical tips our listeners can use for healthy snacking?
• What are some modest diet changes folks can make to feel happier and healthier without dieting?
• What is one easy way that nobody talks about to save money on groceries?
• Is it worth the annual membership fee to shop at Costco or Sam’s Club?
• What is one example of food preservation that is easy for couples to do themselves?
• What does your meal preparation look like for your family?
• Will you share with us your favorite recipes to include on this blog post?

Health #healthylifestyle #healthyfood #healthyrecipes #menshealth #cooking #mealprep

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Guest: Geoff Girvitz

Dad Strength is a community of engaged dads who are ready to take the next big leap.

They share wisdom on the health, work, and relationship practices you need to get to the next level in your life.

Geoff Girvitz is today’s guest and the founder of Bang Personal Training and the host of the Dad Strength Podcast. He has been featured in Vice, GQ, and T-Nation. He is an expert in behaviour design and functional exercise. And, of course, he's a dad.

Geoff designed Dad Strength as a way for men to take care of themselves—so that they can take better care of the people in their lives.

Through online calls, in-person meetups, and retreats, Geoff facilitates the development of the discipline, habits, and strategy that busy dads need in order to take the next big leap—whether it's professional or personal.

What you will learn this show:

• What is Dad Strength?
• What does our physical fitness have to do with us being great spouses and fathers
• What are exercise systems and why do they matter much more than habits?
• What are three strategies busy husbands and fathers can use to stay active and healthy?

Learn more

Website: Dadstrength.com
Podcast Website: Dadstrength/Podcast
Instagram: TheDadStrengthPodcast
Facebook: Dad Strength Page

Podcast Sponsor: Money Marriage U

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share ideas to manage money and the home as teammates.

Today’s guest is Rahkim Sabree CFEI®,RFC®AFC® Candidate. Rahkim is an author, Forbes columnist, and financial coach who focuses on the intersection of financial education and financial trauma as a barrier to achieving financial empowerment.

His work has been seen or published in many of the large publications including Business Insider, Black Enterprise, Entrepreneur, Money group, Parents Magazine, and more.

For today’s show, we will focus on how to overcome financial trauma. So without further ado, let’s start the show.

The questions posed in today’s episode include:

• How do you define financial trauma?
• Can you share your journey through entrepreneurship?
• Why is financial literacy not enough?
• What is the right money mindset?
• What are examples of unhealthy money mindsets?
• What is one piece of advice you want our listeners to walk away understanding?
• How can listeners follow you?

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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share ideas to manage money and the home as teammates. Today’s guest is Andy Murphy, otherwise known as, The Secure Dad.

Andy Murphy founded The Secure Dad in 2016 realizing that every parent is a protector. Andy’s passion is to help families live safer, happier lives. His Amazon best-selling book Home Security: The Secure Dad’s Guide has helped thousands of people around the world.

Andy will share practical tips to keep your family safe. What you will learn this episode:

• How can husbands enhance the security of their homes without breaking the bank?
• What are the top three must-have security measures every family should implement to protect their home and loved ones?
• In a world of increasing digital threats, what steps can families take to secure their smart home devices and protect their privacy?
• What are some effective strategies for teaching children about home security and fostering a sense of responsibility and awareness?
• With the rise of package theft, what are some practical solutions and preventive measures families can take to safeguard their deliveries?
• What are the most common security vulnerabilities that homeowners overlook, and how can they address them to fortify their defenses?
• With summer vacations being a prime time for burglaries, what tips can you provide to ensure that families can enjoy their holidays worry-free?
• How can we assess the overall security of their neighborhood and engage in community efforts to create a safer environment for everyone?
• Why do we need to think about protecting our family? How can we boost the security of our home?
• How can we protect kids online?

Where can our listeners learn more about The Secure Dad?

https://www.instagram.com/thesecuredad/
https://www.thesecuredad.com/
https://twitter.com/thesecuredad
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lnfrr3oDAMAw9OA7Pfujw

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Dr. Michael Gene Thomas is the author of Black Financial Culture: Building Wealth from the Inside Out. He is also a Lecturer at the University of Georgia where he teaches Financial Planning, Housing and Consumer Economics.

His research involves understanding what factors influence financial well-being across socio-economic status and how to optimize those factors through evidenced-based interventions or therapeutic methods.

Dr. Thomas has won numerous teaching awards.

Show Notes

• 0:00-1:00 Introduction
• 1:01-8:31 Why Dr. Thomas wrote Black Financial Culture: Building Wealth from the Inside Out
• 8:32-21:55 The three meanings of black financial culture as defined in the book
• 21:56-25:24 How football can explain progress
• 25:25-30:19 How we subconsciously operate out of habit not as choice
• 30:20-35:55- How emotion hinders or destroys wealth creation (cut some)
• 35:56-40:10 What was it like writing the book Black Financial Culture and his frustrations with manufactured division
• 40:10-55:45 The beauty of diversity and black financial culture
• 55:46- A Gentleman’s Bet

Related Resources and Articles

• Black Financial Culture: Building Wealth from the Inside Out

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Shyam Pradheep currently serves as the General Manager of Zogo, having previously worked as the Head of Operations and VP of Customer Success. Since graduating from Duke alongside Zogo’s founding team, Pradheep’s prior roles have given him a holistic perspective that drives the future of not only the company but the field of financial literacy and institutional engagement at large.

Since growing up in Muscat, Oman, and living in multiple countries before moving to the United States, Pradheep brings a unique viewpoint that motivates the rapid innovation and operational prowess that power Zogo. Shyam is a recipient of the Duke University International Student of the Year.

Show Notes

• 0:00-0:55 Introduction
• 0:56-2:47 Shyam’s experience at Duke University
• 2:48-4:00 Shyam’s passion for financial education
• 4:01-5:30 Shyam’s pathway to Zogo
• 5:31-10:59 Examples of how companies entice consumers to make bad consumerism choices online or in the social media spheres
• 11:00-14:00 How companies make spending decisions as frictionless as possible to take advantage of our impulsive nature, and what can be done about it
• 14:01-18:02 How dark patterns trap us
• 18:03-22:00 Strategies to interact online without making impulsive financial decisions
• 22:01-26:52 How to identify financial options that could be destructive
• 26:51-33:45 How can ChatGPT change digital consumerism
• 33:46 Conclusion

Related Resources and Articles

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Christian Sherrill is the Director of Growth & Advocacy at Next Gen Personal Finance. His work and passion are to help end the opportunity gap, specifically by guaranteeing all high school students an engaging personal finance course before they graduate from high school by the year 2030. Christian graduated from Dartmouth College.

Christian’s wife, Chelsea Hayman, MD is an Emergency Medicine Resident at NYU. Their story and ideas to manage the modern home is full of ideas applicable to many other high achieving 21st century couples.

Today’s discussion is part two of how you can support your partner’s career.

Show notes
0:00-1:52 seconds Introduction (my introduction must be 60 seconds)
1:53-5:17 Dr. Hayman’s journey up to becoming an emergency medicine physician
5:18-7:21 How Christian and Dr. Hayman???
7:22-10:16 Christian’s current job and how their household is much like most of America
10:17-16:06 How Christian and Dr. Hayman manage their household
16:07-17:21 How do Christian and Dr. Hayman works together to manage the home?
17:22-19:46 Christian’s favorite meals to prepare (Get Turkey Taco and Chicken Piccata recipes)
19:47-21:18 This dish Christian prepares is Dr. Hayman’s favorite dish (chicken and ground beef meatballs and ratatouille)
21:19-24:54 One piece of advice Dr. Heyman wants to share with our listeners about what Christian does to support her working through a high stress career.
24:55 Conclusion

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Guest: Aliyha Amani, Tax Attorney at Exxon Mobil

Today’s topic is how to support your spouse at home. Our guest is Aliyha Amani. Aliyha and her husband Zo both have pressure packed careers They currently live in two different cities as they advance in their careers.

In this episode, Aliyha shares the modern day coordination strategies they use to manage money and the home in support of each other as they continue to progress in their professions, and how her husband Zo commits to supporting her career.

Aliyha is a tax attorney for ExxonMobil. Prior to joining ExxonMobil, Aliyha worked as tax associate at Baker McKenzie, LLP, a world-renowned international law firm.

Aliyha earned her Juris Doctorate from Howard University School of Law in 2021 and a Master of Business Administration from the Howard University School of Business in 2021. Aliyha is the chief executive officer of UPLIFT, an organization focused on teaching HBCU students about the legal profession.

Show Notes
0:00-1:18 Introduction
1:19-4:24 Aliyha’s journey from college until now
4:25-6:03 How career interests can take wild twists and turns
6:04-8:19 Background about Aliyha’s husband, Zo
8:18-16:41 How Zo supports Aliyha in her career
16:42-21:03 Hacks to manage the household together
21:04-28:56 How Zo and Aliyha determine whose career will determine where they will live
28:57-29:46 Conclusion

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Justin shares how he was able to get through cancer during a turbulent marriage, focusing on his mental wellbeing and managing his physical health in the ways he could.

Justin Birckbichler is a men’s health advocate, testicular cancer survivor, and the founder of aBallsySenseofTumor.com. In 2017, ABSOT won an award for the Best Advocacy and Awareness Cancer Blog in 2017 and Justin was recognized as one of 15 People Who Raised Cancer Awareness in 2017. Additionally, Justin was selected as the winner of the Hilarious Patient Leader Category in the 2018 WEGO Health Awards. In 2019, Justin was recognized as one of “40 Under 40 in Cancer.” ABSOT was chosen as one of Healthline’s Best Men’s Health Blogs for 2020 and Justin was also named as one of Cancer Health 25: Change Makers in the same year.

Show notes
0:00-1:30 Intro
1:31-2:54 Justin walks us through what his life was like before he discovered he had cancer
2:55-5:00 Justin shares how he initially managed the cancer diagnosis
5:01-7:55 How Justin was able to focus on his own physical and mental wellbeing while fighting cancer
7:56-10:45 What triggered Justin’s decision to seek the health of mental health experts
10:46-18:43 A few tips Justin believes listeners would benefit from to improve their own emotional well being
18:44-19:30 Final suggestions
19:31-19:58 Conclusion

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Today’s Father’s Day Special is a discussion of all things fathering. Our guest is Paul Sullivan, Founder of The Company of Dad’s.

After 25 years as a journalist, and last with the New York Times, Paul started The Company of Dads, a media company and community platform aimed at Lead Dads – men who are the go-to parents whether they work full time, part time or devote all their time to their families.

Show Notes
0:00-0:54 Introduction
0:55-2:25 What Paul enjoys most about being a father
2:26-3:31 Paul shares the accomplishments earned by his children that make him most proud
3:32-5:53 The traditions Paul’s father passed on to him
5:54-6:17 “Pretty soon we are going to be a communist country.”
6:18-10:23 Skiing and smoking
10:24-12:21 What Paul wishes he would you had done differently as a father
12:22-16:34 One of the hardest moments Paul has had being a father and what he learned
16:35-19:10 The characteristics of a great father that are not necessarily accepted as a gender norm
19:11-28:01 What do our listeners need to know about The Company of Dads
28:02-32:35 Paul shares his favorite stories from the Company of Dads podcast
32:36-34:53 The most important advice you believe every young parent should know
34:54-35:47 How Paul wants to be remembered by his kids
35:48-36:14 Closing

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Today's top is Equal Partners: How to be a team at home

Dr. Kate Mangino has written and delivered curricula in over 20 countries about issues such as healthy masculinity and women’s empowerment.

She brings her lens of social change to her debut book, Equal Partners, which introduces readers to a diverse group of men who are proud to be equal partners in the home. She draws from their examples to offer practical advice as to what each of us can do to rewrite gender norms.

Dr. Mangino has published in Time and Slate; Equal Partners has been featured in The Atlantic, CNN, BBC World News and The Guardian.

0:00-1:08 Introduction and overview of Dr. Mangino’s book Equal Partners
2:35-5:46 What does teamwork look like in the 21st century home?
5:47-10:30 How can partners start our married lives together as teammates?
10:31-15:29 Using plain spoken language and common sense to approach conversations to address managing the home together
15:30-25:39 What should partners talk about to pull together a plan for each of us inside and outside the home when we have children?
25:40-32:04 The latest Pew report found that women continue to share a disproportionate amount of the labor at home, even when they earn more and work longer hours outside of the home. Why are we perpetuating domestic inequity, and what can we do about it?
32:05-38:10 Do husbands need to financially provide for families to be a great husband?
38:11-48:01 Our listeners are busy and need to be conscious of their time. Can you share some of those categories and how couples can create time management strategies to work together?
48:02-48:32 Conclusion

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Equal Partners (book): https://www.amazon.com/Equal-Partners-Improving-Gender-Equality/dp/B09GCD85X7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=EKF22WNF1TZE&keywords=equal+partners+improving+gender+equality+at+home&qid=1685706519&sprefix=equal+partner%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-1
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Welcome to the Modern Husbands podcast, where Dr. Ross, Christian, and Brian host national experts who share ideas to manage money and the home as teammates.

Today’s topic is Money and Marriage for LGBTQ+ Couples.

Today’s guests are David & John Auten-Schneider. With their writing and speaking for DebtFreeGuys.com and Queer Money® podcast, they help queer people (and allies) live fabulously, not fabulously broke. As certified LGBTBEs, they are the queer voice in both personal and business finances.

Their work has appeared on Forbes, Yahoo!Finance, NBC’s Squawk Box and The News with Sheppard Smith, ABC News, Rachel Ray Show and Good Morning America to name a few.

Show Notes
0:00-2:00 Introduction
2:01-8:07 Hilariously regrettable past financial decisions
8:08-10:30 Lessons learned
10:31-18:54 How they overcome over $51,000 in credit card debt
18:55-22:39 How do you manage your money together?
22:40-27:59 Financial priorities and concerns specific to the LGBTQ+ community.
26:26-27:21 Financial benefits not being received
28:00-31:32 How does estate planning differ for LGBTQ+ couples
31:33-33:26 The attack on trans kids
33:27-35:55 One essential piece of advice for LGBTQ+ couples
35:56-37:44 Conclusion

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Jason Vitug is a bestselling author and inspirational speaker who talks about personal finance and financial wellness. His most recent book is Happy Money Happy Life.

Happy Money Happy Life is an exciting and practical discussion at the intersection of our mental, our emotional health, and our money.

Today we explore the interconnectedness of money and our overall well being.

Show Notes

• 0:00-1:00 Introduction
• 1:00-3:00 An overview of Jason’s book Happy Money Happy Life
• 3:01-4:04 Our basic needs
• 4:05-11:04 Jason’s background and YOLO
• 11:05-17:52 Jason shares an important first step toward happiness
• 17:53-23:39 A happy heart
• 23:40-35:05 Our physical wellbeing
• 35:06-39:14 Steps toward simplifying your financial life

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Today’s topic is From the Federal Reserve to Budgeting with his Spouse: A Modern Husband's Journey.

Our guest is Lorenzo “Zo” Amani, who is the vice president, compliance officer at Industrial Bank. Prior to joining Industrial Bank, he served as a policy advisor in the Office of Consumer Policy at the U.S. Treasury Department and as a senior consumer compliance bank examiner at the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston. Mr. Amani is ABD status for his Ph.D. in public administration and public affairs at Virginia Tech. He serves on the Modern Husbands Advisory board, along with his wife, Aliyha.

Show Notes

• 0:00~0:55 Introduction
• 0:56-4:06 Educational and professional journey
• 4:07-6:41 How Zo persevered through a football career ending injury at Virginia Tech
• 6:42-15:26 What strategies Zo picked up working in banking and the Federal Reserve that he applies to the budgeting strategy he uses with his wife.
• 15:27-17:17 Managing income volatility and living in an expensive city (D.C.)
• 17:18-19:41 How Zo and his wife Aliyha managed their credit in advance of securing a mortgage
• 19:42-22:34 How do you support each other’s careers?
• 22:35-27:52 How Zo supports Aliyha’s career
• 28:36-29:54 One piece of advice for the listeners.

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Our guest is Dr. Perry Jenkins. She is the author of Work Matters: How Parents’ Jobs Shape Children’s Well-Being and serves as the Department Chair of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

Today’s topic is how your job can make you a better parent or spouse.

Her latest work has been highlighted in the Harvard Business Review and Washington Post, among other publications.

Show Notes
0:00-2:59 Introduction
3:00-5:29 Why she decided to tackle the research project and what it is about
5:30-8:03 The research process for the project and book
8:04-11:13 Why some parents thrive and others struggle
11:14-14:26 The impact of empowering employees to work together to manage schedule
14:27-18:46 How employees can work with their bosses to create the job flexibility
18:47-22:10 The three things employers can easily do to improve the work environment
22:11-24:49 How she proved the children of parents who were treated better at work were better students
24:50-29:18 Can the same types of work stress that bleed into our patience to be a parent have the same effect on you as a spouse
29:19-31:24 What aren’t we doing more as a society for parents and kids
31:25-38:13 How the workplace impacts the division of labor at home
38:14-40:34 How some have misconstrued the results of the research
40:35-43:34 The policy challenge lawmakers face
43:35-45:03 Lessons married couples easily apply to their marriages
45:04-45:28 Conclusion

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• Work Matters: How Parents’ Jobs Shape Children’s Well-Being
• Modern Husbands Newsletter
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Guest: Sonya Lutter, Ph.D., CFP®, LMFT
Professor of Practice, Director of Financial Health and Wellness, Ph.D. Program Director
School of Financial Planning at Texas Tech University
https://www.depts.ttu.edu/hs/pfp/Lutter.php

Dr. Lutter shares how to reduce money induced stress and anxiety in relationships.

Sonya Lutter holds a Ph.D., CFP®, and LMFT and serves as the inaugural Director of Financial Health and Wellness at Texas Tech University. She leads curriculum and continuing education opportunities in the areas of financial psychology, financial therapy, and financial behavior. Dr. Lutter is also the owner of EnLite.World, a research and training consultancy firm for financial planners and therapists. Her work is regularly featured in major news outlets such as the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

Show Notes

0:00-1:23 Introduction

1:24-3:43 How Dr. Lutter’s professional background provides her with the unique insight to understand how to reduce money induced stress and anxiety in relationships.

3:44-5:48 The important trends and changes in marriage and money that cut across all socioeconomic status.

6:06-7:11 How Covid has impacted how we talk and approach mental health and financial therapy

7:12-11:58 How money induced stress impacts our relationships with our friends

11:59-14:36 How you can approach friends or family about affordable fun for you, when they can afford to do much more

14:37-17:02 How stress and anxiety triggered by our financial circumstances impact our work relationships and productivity, and what can we do about it

17:03-20:19 How the virtual work environment plays into the same challenges. (great clip around the 19 minute mark about managing the virtual work environment.

20:20-28:12 How money induced stress and anxiety impacts our marriage, and three specific and easy steps we can take to do something about it.

28:13-29:58 The most key takeaway for listeners and the conclusion

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April is financial literacy month, and in celebration we will be sharing two special episodes focusing on personal finance for your kids. Christian works for the nation’s #1 provider of teacher professional development for personal finance, as I did with the same organization in a previous role and was a former personal finance teacher. Dr. Ross teaches a personal finance class at the University of Kentucky is personal finance.

Today we discuss the lessons and resources parents can use to teach their own children money lessons.

Show Notes
0:00-0:57: Introduction
0:57-3:10: The most valuable money lesson Dr. Ross’s parents passed down to him
3:11-8:45: The most valuable money lesson Brian’s parents passed down to him
8:46-13:45: The most valuable money lesson Christian’s parents passed down to him
14:15-16:52: Free financial literacy resources parents can use for children between the ages of 3 and 13
16:53-17:40: Why we teach our children to give to homeless people
18:23-24:57: Christian shares his favorite free financial literacy arcade games for middle school and high school students
24:58-31:08: Brian shares his favorite free resources to understand college financial award letters and open bank accounts
31:09-31:42: Important wisdom from Dr. Ross.
32:39-34:24: How to turn back to school shopping into a money lesson
34:25-38:15: How to teach borrowing lessons to your young children
38:30-39:40: There is a difference between a teacher and a preacher
40:00-40:26: Conclusion

Linked Resources Shared in the Podcast
Money Lessons for Kids: Investing (article)Money MagicPaybackSpentMeet the Money MonstersMoney as You GrowYour Financial Path to GraduationChecklist for opening a bank or credit union accountInvestor.gov financial calculatorThe Opposite of Spoiled

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April is financial literacy month, and in this spirit we are dedicating both April podcasts to teaching your children money lessons.

Today we will discuss why your child might be deprived of a class dedicated to personal finance, and what to do about it.

As context for the discussion, Christian is spending much of the month traveling the country advocating with lawmakers to guarantee a personal finance class for every student, something I did in the past. Meanwhile, Dr. Ross teaches a personal finance class at the University of Kentucky and advocates as a board member for the Financial Therapy Association.

Show Notes
0:00-1:11: Introduction
1:12-2:37: What to expect for this podcast and the next
3:00-7:39: An overview of exhaustive research that reveals who in the United States is receiving a financial education, and to what extent.
7:40-11:39 Why every kid must take a personal finance class before graduating.
11:40-13:58 The state by state progress of adding personal finance as a semester class guaranteed for graduation over the past five years.
13:59-15:26 Current personal finance bills in legislatures
15:27-17:36 How kids are hurt by being deprived of a personal finance education
17:37-22:00 How parents can help lead the effort to start a personal finance class in your child’s school
22:01-28:08 Brian’s favorite success story lobbying for a personal finance class as a condition for graduation and who got in the way.
28:09-29:11 Conclusion

Resources

• Interactive district by district personal finance requirement map of the United States
• Bill Tracker
• Documentaries
  • Real World Class
  • The Most Important Class You Never Had

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Dr. Streib is an Associate Professor at Duke University and holds a PhD in Sociology from the University of Michigan. She is the author of three books. For today’s discussion we are focusing on The Power of the Past: Understanding Cross-Class Marriages looks at how couples who grew up in different class backgrounds think about how to spend money, plan their careers, raise their children, and express their emotions.

Show Notes

• Up to 1:03: Introduction
• 1:04-1:54: What the book is about. How married couples who grew up in very different classes manage the home and money together.
• 1:54-2:49: Dr. Streib’s passion behind understanding cross class marriages and the process she used to interview couples for her research and book.
• 7:15-11:15: The specific challenges people face who come from different socioeconomic backgrounds
• 11:16-15:00: A deeper dive into gender differences
• 15:01-17:43: Why women feel like they must manage the home but they are working and how couples work through it.
• 17:44-22:38: Examples of common conflicts in parenting and how to work through
• 22:39-23:31: Is marriage easier for people from different income backgrounds?
• 23:32-27:28: Was there resentment from women who took on more housework tasks and how did they work through it?
• 27:29-29:13: How do you work through differences if you can’t hire a housekeeper?
• 29:14-33:35: How couples from different backgrounds approach the house they wanted and how that impacts where you live and decorating your home (which isn’t the same as clean)
• 33:36-35:15 How do couples work through the friction of two different visions of what a home should look like – and how to work through it.
• 35:16-39:23: Parting and important advice
• 39:24-39:50: Conclusion

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Ron Lieber will share important lessons for parents about using money as a tool to teach your children values and hacks to pay for college.

Ron Lieber is the author of The Opposite of Spoiled: Raising Kids Who Are Grounded, Generous, and Smart About Money, which was an instant New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller. “The Price You Pay for College: An Entirely New Roadmap for the Biggest Financial Decision Your Family Will Ever Make,” was published by HarperCollins in January, 2021. Ron has been the “Your Money” columnist for The New York Times since 2008.

Show Notes

• 0:00-0:58 Introduction
• 0:59-10:00 About Ron Lieber’s books: “The Opposite Of Spoiled” and “The Price You Pay For College”
• 10:01-17:33 Ron’s research process when writing both books
• 17:34-31:06 Lessons people can take away from his book “The Price You Pay For College”
• 31:07-39:24 Some of Ron’s favorite stories from his book “The Opposite Of Spoiled” and the lessons they create
• 39:28-47:54 Ron’s involvement with the film “She Said”
• 47:54-48:47 Conclusion

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Join us for a discussion about investing as a couple and rules put into place to reduce being scammed while saving for retirement.

Skip Schweiss, CFP®, AIF® currently serves as the volunteer past president for the Financial Planning Association® (FPA®), the leading membership organization for Certified Financial Planners.​

In 2020, Schweiss concluded a 12-year career with TD Ameritrade, where he most recently served as President of TD Ameritrade Trust Company and Managing Director of Advisory Advocacy. Mr. Schweiss directly influenced legislation and regulation, including the SECURE Act (2019) and the DOL Conflict of Interest Rule, among others.

Show Notes

• 0:00-0:58 Introduction
• 0:58-2:45 Skips professional background
• 3:35-7:34 Skips insight on how beginners should start investing
• 7:35-12:42 The passing of the Secure Act in 2019 and what that changed
• 12:43-14:31 Real-world examples of how the Secure Act has helped
• 15:27-20:20 Department of Labor Conflict of Interest Rule
• 20:20-25:54 What Skip suggests you should look for in a financial planner
• 26:38-28:32 Websites you can use to research financial advisors
• 28:37-32:33 Skips financial advice for married couples
• 34:11-34:36 Conclusion

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David Yuan is a Managing Partner at the MindKind Institute where he coaches and facilitates leaders and their teams in self-awareness, well-being, mindfulness, emotional intelligence, and conscious communication. David is also an award-winning strategist who has led organizational and cultural redesigns for Fortune 100 companies, Fast Company’s Most Innovative Companies, and the public education sector.
Show Notes

• 0:00-0:50 Introduction
• 0:50-2:42 Davids work: MindKind
• 2:43-5:33 How David defines well-being
• 8:22-12:32 Davids work with men: talking about shame
• 12:33-21:36 Common challenge/shame men in their 30’s feel
• 21:38-24:07  Listening to your significant other and what that means
• 24:08-29:16 Make time for and prioritize deep conversations
• 29:18-37:03 Men feeling isolated from carrying baggage
• 37:25-38:48 Davids strategy to make space for your partner
• 40:14-41:44 Conclusion

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Sarah Suatoni MA, LPC is a Managing Partner at the Mindkind Institute. Sarah is a licensed Professional Counselor with vast experience, including helping married couples. She partners with leaders to develop emotional and social intelligence, mindful presence, and interpersonal skills along with a clear sense of purpose and values. Her corporate clients include Goldman Sachs, Google, and the World Bank.

Show Notes

• 0:00~0:05 Introduction
• 0:05~2:38 Sarah’s work
• 3:14~8:19 Gender roles history vs reality
• 12:45~15:05 Uncoupling masculinity and money vs. femininity and nurturing
• 15:07~15:47 Common sense approach
• 16:25~19:30 What conversations arise from talking about gender roles?
• 19:30~22:08 Sarah’s suggestions on what we could do differently
• 23:30~24:28 System site work: swap roles
• 25:25~27:44 The power in flexibility
• 31:18~35:25 Sarah’s specific advice on what to do when roles are shifting
• 36:35~38:04 Key takeaway
• 38:11~38:35 Conclusion

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Money, Men, and Mental Wellness

Lawrence founded Mitlin Financial in 2004 and is the host of the Mitlin Money Mindset™ podcast, a podcast that’s all about getting your mind right when it comes to all things money. Milton is an Investopedia 100 Top Advisors 2021 and Top Ten for 2022. Milton is an active volunteer for the National Board of the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

Show Notes

• 0:00~1:00 Introduction
• 1:00~4:17 What Mr. Lawrence does to bring him joy
• 4:17~7:30 More about Mr. Lawrence’s podcast
• 7:30~11:52 Key triggers for men struggling mentally and how to work through those problems
• 11:52~14:25 Work, life, and harmony
• 15:00~18:19 Mr. Lawrence’s strategy to finding balance in life
• 18:19~22:15 What drives Mr. Lawrence's passion for mental health awareness
• 22:42~25:28 Mr. Lawrence's experience with people who believe their self worth is a direct reflection of how much money they make
• 25:42~26:49 Key takeaway from entire podcast
• 26:49~27:22 Conclusion

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Dr. Michael Gene Thomas is a Lecturer at the University of Georgia. He teaches Financial Planning, Housing and Consumer Economics. His research involves understanding what factors influence financial well-being across socio-economic status and how to optimize those factors through evidenced-based interventions or therapeutic methods. Dr. Thomas has won numerous teaching awards.

Show Notes

• 0:00~0:55 Introduction
• 0:55~2:27 Why Dr. Thomas is passionate about teaching
• 2:27~7:19 His approach to teaching his intro to personal finance class
• 7:50~15:23 Challenges he's faced with teaching personal finance
• 15:40~16:55 Key takeaway on how to avoid such challenges
• 17:45~20:44 Examples of how couples financial problems can go wrong and
• 20:44~30:16 How he suggests handling such problems
• 30:16~30:56 Key takeaway: Walk and Talks
• 32:25~37:20 What tools can couples use to achieve the goals established on the walk and talk
• 33:18:~35:15 Mortgage interest rates
• 37:20~40:25 How to use these tools: Engage proactively and not reactively
• 40:25~42:40 Real life example of what to look out for when consulting a financial professional
• 42:40~45:55 Importance of Fiduciary Standards
• 45:55~47:00 Key takeaway from entire podcast
• 47:00~47:32 Conclusion

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You may know Philip Olson (and his wife Julia Lorenz-Olson) for their quirky, fun web series Two Cents, a weekly personal finance show on PBS aimed at millennials and Gen Z. Philip and Julia also founded The Art of Finance, an Austin-based financial services firm that helps clients in the creative industry. Listen to how Philip and Julia manage their own money and home together.

Show Notes

• 0:00~1:00 Introduction
• 1:00~2:00 Two Cents Introduction
• 4:00~6:00 Philip’s Family Dynamics
• 6:00~7:45 Benefits of Couples Therapy
• 7:45~9:11 The Need for a Mental Health Paradigm Shift
• 9:11~12:00 Equal Division of Labor in the Home
• 12:00~12:15 Communication is Key
• 12:15~15:30 It’s okay to not always be the breadwinner
• 15:30~17:30 Fiduciary Standard and it’s Importance
• 17:30~21:45 Specific Examples of the importance of fiduciary standards
• 21:45~23:00 Key Takeaway for Consumers
• 23:00~26:00 Part 1: How Philip and his wife manage money together; UniBudget (app)
• 26:01~28:00 Part 2: How Philip and his wife manage money together; Be partners and talk about finances with your spouse
• 28:00~30:00 Tips for listeners to manage money with their spouses; Monthly Budget Committee Meetings
• 30:00~33:00 Number One Key Takeaway
• 33:00~34:30 Conclusion

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• PBS Two Cents: https://www.pbs.org/show/two-cents/
• PBS Two Cents: How Cars Can Keep You Poor: https://www.pbs.org/video/how-cars-can-keep-you-poor-eymzdq/
• The Art of Finance: https://theartoffinance.biz/
• Online Courses: https://moneymarriageu.thinkific.com/
• Budgeting App Philip brought up: YNAB

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Dr. McCoy shares practical tips for talking about and managing your finances with your spouse. 

Megan McCoy, Ph.D., LMFT is an adjunct faculty member at Kansas State University where she teaches courses for the Financial Therapy Certificate Program. She received her Ph.D. in Human Development and Family Sciences with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Georgia. Her research interests truly focus on Financial Therapy and how to create more empirical evidence to support work that she has seen change so many lives in her clinical experiences.

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Jackie Cummings Koski’s success was just shared on the Rachel Ray Show, and for our podcast we dive deeper into how she was able to retire a millionaire at the age of 49.

Master of Science in Personal Financial Planning and Financial Therapy.

She is a financial literacy advocate and Certified Educator in Personal Finance— her areas of specialty are optimizing Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), FI/RE (Financial Independence/Retire Early), Youth Financial Literacy and Stock Investment Clubs. Champion for Diversity & Inclusion. Ms. Cummings is a repeat guest on CNBC's “Closing Bell”, author of the award winning book "Money Letters 2 my Daughter" and recognized with a Congressional Commendation for accomplishments in the field of financial literacy from the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Dr. Lusardi shares with us the most important personal finance concepts couples should understand, what is Inflation and how it is impacting folks now, how men and women invest differently, and how husbands can support their working wives. 

Annamaria Lusardi is the Denit Trust Chair of Economics and Accountancy at the George Washington University School of Business (GWSB). She is also the founder and academic director of GWSB’s Global Financial Literacy Excellence Center (GFLEC). Previously, she was the Joel Z. and Susan Hyatt Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College, where she taught for twenty years. She has also taught at Princeton University, the University of Chicago Harris School of Public Policy, the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and Columbia Business School. She holds a PhD in Economics from Princeton University and a BA in Economics from Bocconi University.

You can look at more of Dr. Lusardi's work by visiting GFLEC.

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Various surveys have found that fighting about money is the primary reason couples divorce. We hosted incoming Financial Therapy President Ed Coambs to discuss the warning signs of danger and next steps for those who could be facing significant relationship problems that derive from money.

Ed Coambs is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Certified Financial Therapist-Level I™, and Certified Financial Planner®. He is also the author of The Healthy Love and Money Way. Mr. Coambs is a Master of Arts in Christian Counseling, and Master of Business Administration (Finance Concentration).

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For Our first joint podcast, Paul Sullivan, founder of The Company of Dads, and Brian Page, founder of Modern Husbands, come together to discuss what the two groups have in common and where we differ. No competition here, just two men discussing one set of key issues that have come out of the pandemic: what it means to be a Lead Dad or Modern Husband in this changing world of work and home life. Listen to hear what Brian and Paul have to say about money, marriage and the pursuit of dad and husband happiness.

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Dr. Ashley Whillans is a Harvard Business School professor, researched, and author of Time Smart: How to Reclaim Your Time and Live a Happier Life. We discuss data and the science behind our relationships between money, time, and happiness. And of course, have a few laughs along the way.

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Failing to understand how to manage credit can lead to problems between spouses. Our guest is Rod Griffin, and we will discuss how couples can work together to manage credit, build their credit scores, and address common credit myths.

Rod Griffin is Senior Director of Public Education and Advocacy for Experian. He leads Experian's national consumer education programs and works with consumer advocates, financial educators, media and others to help consumers increase their ability to understand and manage their personal finances and protect themselves from fraud and identity theft. The Institute for Financial Literacy named Rod "Educator of the Year" in April 2016.

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• How NOT to Use Credit Cards: Couples Edition

Experian Resources

• Join the Experian #CreditChat every Wednesday at 2:00 pm CT/3:00 pm ET
• Use Experian Boost™ to boost your FICO® Score* instantly by getting credit for bills like your phone, utilities and popular streaming services.
• Jump-start your credit with Experian Go™.
• Experian.com: Information about credit reports and credit scores.

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A Modern Husband support’s his partner’s career ambitions, and roots for their career successes. They respect their partners and want to help lead many of the efforts around the home. They believe managing money responsibly is important, and prioritize living a life full of experiences.

We are honored that a trailblazing Modern Husband joined us today to share his wisdom.

Dan Kadlec and his wife are a power couple. is a trailblazer Modern Husband. Dan is an author and was a journalist for decades with USA Today and then TIME and MONEY. Kadlec has appeared on Oprah, CNN, CNBC, Good Morning America, and many other programs. Dan is also a Modern Husbands Advisory Board member. Dan’s wife Kimberly, is the CMO & SVP Global Marketing Solutions & Customer Marketing at Visa, Inc.

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Nearly half of married Americans commit financial infidelity – being deceitful with money. We hosted Dr. Hensley to discuss financial infidelity, the consequences, how to spot it, and how to talk about it with your partner. Dr. Billy J. Hensley joined us to discuss financial infidelity. 

Dr. Hensley is president and CEO of the National Endowment for Financial Education®. Under Hensley’s leadership, NEFE’s research agenda has driven the national dialogue about financial education, including one study ranked in the top 5 percent of the Social Science Research Index. Dr. Hensley also serves on the CNBC Financial Wellness Council. 

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• Budgeting 101 for Couples

NEFE Resources

• NEFE Research: 2 in 5 Americans Admit to Financial Infidelity Against Their Partner

NEFE Life Values Quiz: A research-based tool to help you better understand why you make the decisions you make. The quiz takes only a few minutes and measures where you are in terms of four values (those hidden inner drivers) that affect your decision making, whether you are aware of them or not.

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Really smart people make really bad decisions with money. Many married couples find the source of their frustrations and arguments with one another to be money. Dr. Klontz joined us today to discuss why and what can be done about it.

Dr. Brad Klontz is a CFP®, an expert in financial psychology, financial planning, and applied behavioral finance. He’s an Associate Professor of Practice at Creighton University, Co-Founder of the Financial Psychology Institute, Managing Principal of Your Mental Wealth Advisors, best-selling author, a member of the CNBC Financial Wellness Council, and a Modern Husband Advisory Board member.

Resources from Dr. Klontz

• Money Mammoth: Harness The Power of Financial Psychology to Evolve Your Money Mindset, Avoid Extinction, and Crush Your Financial Goals.
• BradKlontz.com: Where you can find numerous resources on Financial Psychology.

Modern Husbands Resources and Articles

• Click here to subscribe to future Modern Husband podcasts.
• Subscribe to our free newsletter and receive a free budgeting template for couples.
• Modern Husbands Merchandise: T-shirts, hoodies, baseball T-shirts, mugs and much more – all full of light hearted humor.
• Budgeting 101 for Couples