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Soil and Roots digs beneath the surface of cultural Christianity and explores how unconscious ideas in our hearts have a profound and lasting impact on our relationship with God, ourselves, others, and the world around us.
In the Season 6 finale of Soil & Roots, Brian takes us on a sweeping journey through the core themes we’ve explored over the past three years—The Great Omission, the tension between the head and the heart, the hidden power of ideas, and the path toward becoming a deep person shaped by divine love. If […]
In this special bonus episode, Brian invites his two young adult sons, Caleb and Zachary, on to the show to discuss spiritual formation in different generations. Caleb and Zach grew up in the church and are now involved with a church plant in their area. Both share some of their stories of apprenticing with Jesus, […]
Brian, Doc, and Handsome Kyle engage in a lively, honest conversation about what it means to live a relaxed life, just like Jesus. Instead of the performance-driven, always-busy version of Christianity so many of us grew up with, they reflect on Jesus’ calm, centered presence—rooted in His secure attachment to the Father. From raccoons clinging […]
Brian explores one of Jesus’ most surprising traits—how deeply relaxed He is—and why that matters for deep discipleship. Building on this season’s portrait of Jesus (emotionally secure, living as the Beloved, relationally shrewd, just, and gentle), Brian shows how Jesus moves calmly through storms, conflict, and pressure without losing agency or love. The invitation? If […]
Most of us would never talk to a friend the way we talk to ourselves. Yet our inner “talk tracks” run all day—and they quietly shape how we relate to God, others, creation, and even our own souls. In this episode, Brian and Doc take a fresh look at self-gentleness—what it is, why it’s missing […]
What does it really mean to be gentle? Is it weakness, meekness, or something far stronger? In this episode, Brian explores the biblical virtue of gentleness through surprising stories—from Andre the Giant in The Princess Bride to the quiet strength of Jesus on the cross. We’ll look at how gentleness is often misunderstood in Western Christianity, especially around masculinity, […]
Greenhouse time! Handsome Kyle, Doc, and Brian review Ep 126, which was all about Jesus as judge. We all make judgments every day, about people, information, events, and conversations. Yet we live in an age where we are repeatedly told not to judge one another. We should just “live and let live.” Let’s take […]
We all judge—and we all get judged. But what does it mean to judge like Jesus? In this episode, we explore one of Christ’s lesser-discussed traits: his role as judge. We unpack the tension between “Do not judge” and “judge with righteous judgment,” examining why judgment is inescapable, how it reveals the hidden ideas and […]
In this episode, Doc, Reverend Pastor Handsome Kyle, and Brian explore the relational discernment of Jesus and its significance for deep discipleship.
Jesus engaged people not as categories, but as individuals—offering personal attention, deep listening, and an unhurried presence. This stands in contrast to modern Christian culture’s tendency to prioritize systems, sermons, and superficial connections over the slower, riskier work of authentic relationships.
We wrestle with how discipleship is more about being than doing—an ongoing formation in Christlikeness that embraces complexity, welcomes grace, and prioritizes love over perfection. As Western Christianity often sidesteps the moral gray areas of real life, let’s try a Spirit-led approach rooted in empathy, discernment, and community.
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What does it mean to reflect the relational wisdom of Jesus in a complex world?
In Episode 124, we explore the striking balance Jesus models between innocence and shrewdness—what He called being "wise as serpents and innocent as doves."
Jesus didn’t relate to everyone the same way. Sometimes cryptic, sometimes candid, He always saw to the heart. He navigated human motives with remarkable discernment, adapting His approach with stunning nuance.
Drawing from the stories of Sherlock Holmes, the Hebrew midwives, and the parable of the shrewd manager, we unpack what it means to engage others with holy perception. We also revisit the practice of Heart Listening—attuning ourselves to the deeper signals beneath words, behaviors, and emotions.
If Jesus is our model for love, wisdom, and relationship, we must learn to listen like Him, discern like Him, and respond like Him. This episode invites you to pursue spiritual maturity that’s not just innocent—but also perceptive, courageous, and creatively compassionate.
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In this funny yet thought-provoking episode, Brian, Doc, and Handsome Kyle take on one of Jesus's intriguing characteristics—his enigmatic style.
Jesus was sometimes puzzling, confusing, and vexing. So, if we are to become more like Him, should we expect to be more enigmatic? What would that even look like?
Once the guys finally settle into the topic, they debate whether this aspect of Jesus is for Him alone, or whether we may sometimes confuse people in our quest to become more loving.
One thing is for sure - Jesus is tough to pin down.
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Jesus often confused people—and it seems He did so on purpose. While this isn’t a characteristic we typically highlight in Sunday school, a quick look through the Gospels shows that our King didn’t always speak plainly, explain Himself, or behave in the ways people expected.
In short, Jesus was often enigmatic. He could be mysterious. Even puzzling.
So, if the goal of discipleship is to become more like Jesus, should we expect to carry a bit of that mystery as well? And if so, why?
Let’s begin a two-part exploration of one of Jesus’s most intriguing traits.
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The guys head back into the Greenhouse to explore what it means to live like the beloved.
Along the way, they wrestle with the difference between an intellectual agreement and a heart experience and how we need both for a “complete belief.” This leads to some vulnerable and transparent story-telling, as well as what it means to experience God’s love when life doesn’t go our way.
Come alongside for this very personal episode!
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We continue to explore what it means to increasingly think, act, relate, and love more like Jesus.
Jesus is the most relationally secure person in history. His love flows from a deep, abiding attachment to his Father, so he is not swayed by people's opinions or manipulations.
How might we become more like that?
Today, we focus on experiencing what it means to be "the beloved." Our identity and security are ultimately wrapped up in experiencing and living in the reality of being beloved by God.
This is not simply an intellectual statement - it is a way of experiencing God in the depths of our souls.
Let's jump in!
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What does it mean that Jesus is the most relationally and emotionally secure human being in history?
The guys jump back into the Greenhouse to dissect the idea that, based on Jesus's life, we can become more relationally secure, attuned, and restful in our relationships with God, others, and ourselves. Though this is not normally explored in modern-day discipleship, it is directly related to the biblical concept of “abiding.”
They also explore ways that relationally insecurity finds its way into our faith today - and some of those explorations are surprising.
Come on in and enjoy another deep, perhaps out-of-the-box Greenhouse discussion.
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As we continue to explore Jesus, the object of our formation, we marvel at one of His most compelling characteristics: his relational and emotional security.
He isn't anxious, rattled, confused, or manipulated by other people's perspectives and opinions. He operates from a rock-solid sense of identity.
If we are to become more like Him, is this type of groundedness also for us?
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What does the Bible mean by "good" in reference to the creation story? Is creation still good today? Are human beings "good"? How do we reconcile some sort of inherent goodness with the pervasiveness of harmful behaviors?
Doc, Brian, and Handsome Kyle delve into these and other challenging questions raised in the previous episode.
As our hearts continue to be formed, we seek to love more like Jesus loves. If we define love as "seeking goodness according to God's ideas," how do we define love and goodness in a world that can't agree on any such definitions?Join us online!Web: soilandroots.org Substack: https://substack.com/@soilandroots YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@soilandroots Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SoilAndRootsPodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soilandrootspodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0kStr423THe8lYQoLwf3J3?si=c79a43c83fa84a4e #SoilAndRoots #DeepDiscipleship #DiscipleshipPodcast #SpiritualFormation
We've turned our attention to exploring what it means to think, act, relate, and love like Jesus, and the answers aren't necessarily straightforward.
At the same time, coming to an agreement on definitions of key words such as "love" and "goodness" can be challenging in our modern culture. How can we love someone if we disagree on what love is? What does it mean to "seek goodness" if we can't agree on what's good?
So, let's dig in and wrestle with what it means to love God, ourselves, others, and creation.
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As we launch further into Season 6, Doc and Handsome Kyle rejoin Brian for the first Greenhouse episode of the season. We are spending this season exploring what it means to think, act, relate, and love like Jesus. The guys briefly review the path we've taken to get here so far, and then wrestle with two key points leading into the rest of the season:-What is the difference between being like Jesus and simply doing the things He said to do?-Just how complex and mysterious is Jesus, the object of our formation?Thanks for being with us! Join us online!Web: soilandroots.org Substack: https://substack.com/@soilandroots YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@soilandroots Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SoilAndRootsPodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soilandrootspodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0kStr423THe8lYQoLwf3J3?si=c79a43c83fa84a4e #SoilAndRoots #DeepDiscipleship #DiscipleshipPodcast #SpiritualFormation
Welcome to Season 6!
We've mentioned numerous times that the primary purpose of following Jesus is to become more like Him. We intend to think, act, relate, and love like Him more.
It's now time to explore what that really means—and it's not as simple as we might think.
As usual when we start a new season, today we'll review the key points from Seasons 1-5. Then, we'll look forward and sketch the idea-transforming route we'll take in this new season.
Thanks for coming along as we venture into exploring the object of our spiritual formation!
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Doc, Handsome Kyle, and Brian reconnect in the Greenhouse to wrestle with our bedrock desire for deep, intentionally formative communities in a culture that often promotes theopposite.
If many modern church institutions only help us with the first few stages of our discipleship, where do we go after that?
Perhaps the “Dones” are not so much guilty of a lack of church attendance as they are signaling a need to which the church should respond.
As usual, Doc poses insightful and difficult questions and delights in watching Kyle and Brian struggle to provide helpful, articulate responses. He invites us to explore genuine definitions of “deep” and “community,” and then presses into what the church should do if it agrees that we are not providing small, vulnerable groups in which we grow to become more like Jesus.
For almost five seasons, we’ve explored the world’s desperate need for deep people and how those people are formed.
We’ve concluded that we best become more like Jesus in small, organic communities that often look and function differently from some modern church experiences.
While we love and support our local and national institutions, what do we do if we conclude that we are missing these types of intimate, deeply formative communities?
Handsome Kyle and Brian jump into the Greenhouse to further explore Richard Foster’s comment, that what the world needs most is deep people.
If a deep disciple is someone increasingly attuned to the heart of God, others, and themselves, what does that mean, exactly?
And why is a consistent awareness of our own thought patterns, behaviors, inner desires, and assumptions so essential to our walk with God?
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If what the world desperately needs is “deep people,” what do we mean by that?
In this Season 5 bonus episode, Brian provides one of his occasional reviews, pulling back out to 30K feet and giving us a flyover of The Great Omission and how we come together to solve it.
He also dives into the definition of a deep person. Thoughtful luminaries such as Dallas Willard and Richard Foster agree that the most pressing need in the entire world is genuine apprentices of Jesus – men and women of great spiritual, emotional, and relational depth.
However, as Brian explores, the characteristics of a genuinely deep person are not what we might expect.
Come along for a short overview of the Soil & Roots journey and what it means to be awake or attuned to God and the world around us.
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How do our views of the End Times impact our understanding of the Kingdom of God? And how does that impact our journey to become more like Jesus? The guys meet in the Greenhouse to wrestle with Brian’s previous conversation with Dr. Darrell Bock. Dr. Tim raises some challenging questions about the role of […]
In Season 4, we spent a few episodes exploring how our views of the End Times impact our journey to become more like Jesus today. We briefly examined the four major modern perspectives: pre-millennialism, dispensationalism, amillennialism, and postmillennialism. Today, we dive back into that discussion with Dr. Darrell Bock, Senior Research Professor of New […]
Sometimes our institutional churches provide comfort, care, instruction, and community. And sometimes not. Much like the human person, our Christian communities are beautiful messes. The guys jump back into the Greenhouse to expand on Brian’s conversation with ex-mega church pastor Matt Davis and our exploration of The Formation Gap. Dr. Tim guides the conversation through […]
Brian is joined by Matt Davis, former megachurch pastor and now head of an organization committed to helping leaders and laypeople heal and find purpose after church hurt. In a wide-ranging conversation, they discuss and debate several key questions about the modern church: Do the power structures that so often characterize our churches help or […]
Doc, Kyle, and Brian further the last episode's interview with Emily Riffe, in which she and Brian explore character development in children. Are children "empty vessels" waiting to be filled, or are they independent, unique persons waiting to be inspired? What light and dark ideas are at work in school systems, churches, and families in […]
Over the years, we’ve mentioned how the most supple, malleable time in a person’s life is childhood. The heart is the most impressionable and formable when it’s new. So why do we hear so little about spiritual formation in children? Why does so much of the modern discipleship/spiritual formation movement focus on adults? Author and […]
What part does story play in modern Christianity? If it is vital to our spiritual formation, where do we find people and places to explore God’s story and how ours fits into His?The guys are back in the Greenhouse to further explore Brian’s conversation with Zach Leighton (Episode 102). Dr. Boswell brings his usual zinger questions, researched quotes, and heartwarming stories to help us mine the depths of how narrative weaves its way into the life of a Christian, and how repeating and exploring our stories are often pathways to healing, hope, and a deeper experience in the Kingdom. Follow us online!Web: soilandroots.orgSubstack: https://substack.com/@soilandrootsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@soilandrootsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/SoilAndRootsPodcast/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soilandrootspodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0kStr423THe8lYQoLwf3J3?si=c79a43c83fa84a4e #SoilAndRoots #DeepDiscipleship #DiscipleshipPodcast #SpiritualFormation
Storytelling is essential to Jesus, makes up a large portion of the Bible, and is fundamental in our spiritual formation journey. However, according to our guest, less than 1% of all church communication worldwide involves story. What does this say about modern Christianity and our quest to become deep disciples?
Brian welcomes innovator and entrepreneur Zach Leighton to the podcast. Zach is a leading thinker in the realm of storytelling, its role in the Bible, and its impact on the church and culture around the globe. He and Brian discuss what happens when the church fails to tell stories, why that habit is missing today, and how we recapture this essential piece of our journey to become more like Jesus.
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Doc, Kyle, and Brian pull apart some key points from Episode 100, where Brian begins to answer the question, "So What?" Why does it matter if we live in an era of The Great Omission (a lack of genuine disciple-making)? If we are "saved" and have our ticket to Heaven, does a lack of deeply […]
Today we celebrate 100 episodes of the podcast with you! Thanks for being a part of the Soil & Roots community. Brian carefully walks through key highlights from the last four seasons, tying together The Great Omission, the vital importance of "ideas," and how we come together to restore New Testament discipleship. Then he asks a […]
Kyle, Doc, and Brian sit down to unpack Brian’s recent conversation with Dr. Jim Reiter regarding The Critical Journey, one way of describing our spiritual adventure. It’s a passionate and animated dialogue, and it covers three main questions: 1. If modern church institutions help us prepare and walk through the first three stages of our […]
Dr. Jim Reiter joins Brian to discuss The Critical Journey, a book we’ve discussed a few times on the podcast. It theorizes there are six phases in our walk to become more like Jesus, though modern Christianity focuses almost exclusively on the first three. Our lack of education on and guidance through Stages 4, 5, […]
Episode 97 finds the guys back in the Greenhouse to dig into Brian’s interview with Adam Ormord (Episode 96) regarding spiritual formation and “soul care.” What is a helpful definition of spiritual formation? And what does it mean that we are being formed more like Jesus for the “sake of the world?” How might […]
Welcome to Season 5! We kick off this new season (called Conversations) with Brian's short introduction to the new material. Then he has a fascinating conversation with pastor, thinker, spiritual director, and innovator Adam Ormord. As we continue to wrestle with all we’ve explored in the first four seasons, Adam helps us step back and […]
What do we mean when we pray for the Kingdom to come? Dr. Tim Boswell returns to the Greenhouse for a vulnerable and in-depth conversation about our modern ideas about the Kingdom, and how they may or may not align with what Jesus meant when He instructed us to pray for it to arrive. […]
As we review and wrap up Season 4 (The Forgotten Kingdom), Brian explores a challenging question: what exactly are we praying for when we ask, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done?" The Lord's Prayer has been uttered countless times, though has it become such a rote habit that we haven't truly considered what we're […]
The guys head into the Greenhouse to explore modern ideas about Heaven versus the biblical concept of the New Heaven and the New Earth. They share how their personal stories impacted their view of the afterlife, how those ideas have adapted and changed in recent years, and how they affect their journey to become more like Jesus.
Then they wrestle with how and why Splitters and Joiners disagree on the impact of the Kingdom on creation and culture today, and what that means for the everyday follower of Jesus in everyday life.
How does the story of the Kingdom of Light wrap up? Do our "ideas" about Heaven match up with what the Bible teaches about the final consummation of the Kingdom? Will we spend eternity playing harps on clouds, or do the New Heaven and New Earth have more in common with our life right now […]
Kyle and Brian "Greenhouse" Episode 90, which explores how Jesus is the ultimate "Idea Revolutionary," challenging and transforming Ideas in the Air (those in culture) and Ideas in the Soil (those in our hearts).
We look at a few cultural ideas, including our assumptions about the Bible. Was the Bible written to us? Or for us? Understanding the difference impacts how we read it and how it forms us.
Then Kyle invites us into his story and heart, and he explains how Jesus is slowly transforming some of his dark ideas into life-giving, joyful truths.
We're finishing up our mini-series about the characteristics of deep disciples by looking at Jesus as the ultimate Idea Revolutionary.
We've introduced two categories of ideas here: Ideas in the Air (in culture and creation) and Ideas in the Soil (in our hearts). Let's explore how Jesus confronted and transformed ideas of both, and how we learn and grow to do the same.
Brian, Kyle, and Doc come together to explore Episode 88, explaining and debating what it means to "suffer well." Each shares some of their journey of suffering, while stressing the need for ongoing kindness, compassion, and a long-term commitment to each other in our formative communities.
And Kyle, the king of cultural references, struggles to use one from this century.
Let's dig in!
Suffering is a universal human experience, yet it raises perhaps the most difficult questions for Christians. Why does a good God allow so much pain and suffering?
And, as we grow to become more like Jesus, can a deep disciple learn how to suffer "well?" What does that even mean?
Join Brian as he explores the reality and challenge of suffering.
Dr. Tim Boswell is back and joins Brian in the Greenhouse to break down Episode 86, which explores the concept of both individual and social transformation happening from the inside out.
Great social reformers such as Wilberforce, Moore, King, Douglass, and Mother Teresa challenged harmful systems as well as the underlying ideas that drive corrupt systems.
Tim and Brian discuss and debate how a deep disciple can learn from these powerful idea revolutionaries.
How does positive family, societal, or national change happen? Do these "systems" change as a result of working on the systems themselves, or do they change as the hearts of the individuals inside the systems change? Or both?
In a world somewhat obsessed with growth and systems, a deep disciple still functions from the reality that, most often, transformation happens from the inside out.
The journey to the somewhat elusive "peace that passes understanding" promised in Scripture involves more than quoting Bible passages and Christian euphemisms. It includes struggle, suffering, and periods of intense wrestling with God and (sometimes) ourselves. Brian and Kyle head back into the Greenhouse to further break down Episode 84 and discuss how to find rest even in the middle of inevitable tension.
As we continue our discovery of the Forgotten Kingdom, we're taking a few episodes to look at sometimes hidden qualities of a deep disciple, a kingdom-dweller.
Today we're considering what it means to be restful in the middle of inevitable tension. How can we be at peace when God allows something we don't like? Or when we come up against a Bible passage that makes us uncomfortable? Or when we question His goodness?
For a person longing to become more like Jesus, the answer may not be as simple as quoting a Bible verse or throwing up our hands in recognition of the fact God is so much bigger than us.
Kyle and Dr. Boswell jump into the studio to further explore last week's episode about the quality of a deep disciple of releasing control. Ouch.
The guys debate a current buzzword in Christianity: "deconstruction." Is there good deconstruction and bad deconstruction? What if some sort of healthy tearing down and rebuilding of elements of our faith is necessary and helpful in the quest to train our hearts to release control? Do we embrace it or do we do our best to avoid it?
Let's dig in.
As children, we take trusting God and others for granted. Then we grow up, and that trust is shattered in a million different ways. We cope with breaches of trust by intellectualizing and trying to take control, usually without even realizing it. It only makes sense - we want to protect our hearts from further hurt and harm.
In this autobiographical episode, Brian shares some of his story, and how returning to a childlike trust always involves turning inward for a while. And it involves some deconstruction - the breaking down of parts of ourselves that we once thought were good, but are obstacles to freedom and authenticity in the Kingdom.
If a characteristic of a deep disciple is releasing control, why do we struggle to do just that, especially when attempting to control so many aspects of our lives often results in anxiety, fear, or even depression?
In this raw episode, Brian and Kyle explore "control" related to mental and spiritual illness, our tendency to inhibit our healing, and the power of lament in our journey to experience trust and security in our relationship with God.
Why do we find ourselves constantly taking control? We attempt to control situations, conversations, people, circumstances, and even the future. A deep disciple, a kingdom dweller, is characterized by releasing our control as we become increasingly "abandoned" to Jesus, yet so many of us find letting go incredibly difficult. Why?
The answer may be hard to hear and challenging, but necessary if we want to experience the freedom, rest, and peace that await us.
Let's dig into this personal, somewhat surprising episode!
Dr. Tim Boswell joins Brian and Kyle again, and they wrestle with this wonderful quality of a deep disciple: the habit of intentionally noticing the individual, or "particularity." Jesus routinely noticed and pursued individual hearts, thus restoring many from loneliness and isolation.
Since the "leprosy of loneliness" is such a dire condition in our society, join the guys as they explore the cure to what may be today's deepest spiritual need - the need to be intentionally and purposefully noticed.
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Particularity - the habit of uniquely noticing someone - is a central quality of being a deep disciple and something Jesus embodied repeatedly. Since the human heart's deepest desire is to know and be known, perhaps the cure to an extraordinary epidemic of loneliness (inside and outside the church) is to slow down, breathe, and practice particularity!
Based on Episode 76's idea that curiosity is a primary characteristic of someone journeying to become more like Jesus, the guys take a few steps even deeper. In a transparent and wide-ranging dialogue, Brian and Kyle explore obstacles to curiosity (sometimes including the church), and what it means to ask questions of God, others, and even ourselves.
As we continue to explore the Forgotten Kingdom, we start a short mini-series on the qualities and characteristics of a Kingdom-dweller. We would do well to survey the beatitudes or the fruits of the spirit to develop a list of characteristics of someone living in the kingdom. However, this is Soil and Roots...so let's dig beneath the surface to uncover some gems that don't always make the Top 10 lists.
Let's start with Courageous Curiosity. God asks a lot of questions. Why? Is it because He doesn't know the answers? Or is He revealing a path towards a deeper relationship experience with Him, others, and ourselves?
The guys engage in an animated exploration of the previous episode, asking themselves if they really want the kingdom to come. Kyle went the extra mile and polled his friends about their definitions of the kingdom, and his survey reveals the current confusion about a primary theme of the Bible. Then they banter about whether a "Stage 6" disciple is realistic or possible. Can we truly experience a life of peace, contentment, and sacrificial love?
We ask for the kingdom to come every time we recite the Lord's prayer. But in this episode, Brian asks a difficult question: do we really want the kingdom to come? Perhaps the kingdom has been forgotten because we want to forget it in favor of deeper ideas and desires in our hearts. Let's dig in!
Back in the Greenhouse, Brian and Kyle have an in-depth and helpful discussion about the overall themes of Seasons 1 through 4 so far. What is the Great Omission and how is it solved? What does it mean to explore our hearts and stories as we become more like Jesus? Where do we find specific communities designed to help form us? And just how confusing and diverse are our views of the Gospel of the Kingdom in modern Christianity? Let's dig in!
We're heading farther up and farther in as we explore the Forgotten Kingdom, so let's take a breath! In this Bonus episode, Brian backs up a bit and surveys and summarizes our journey into deep discipleship so far.
He reviews and expands on the Great Omission, and adds some color to the Three Primary Problems, major obstacles to our spiritual formation and our quest to become more like Jesus.
Can our culture's lack of discipleship and these three challenges be overcome? Let's find out!
Kyle, Doc, and Brian head back into the Greenhouse to further explore how our End Times views impact our assumptions about the Kingdom and our spiritual formation.
They dig into a few of Brian's core questions about the Joiner and Splitter perspectives and then close out by examining how each view leads to potentially different conclusions about what our purpose is in life and in the Kingdom.
As we finish up our brief look at how our views of the End Times impact our journey into deep discipleship, we explore how the two primary groups (Splitters and Joiners) expect this current age to end. Is this "church age" winding up or down?
Does this "idea of expectation" impact our everyday life? If so, how?
Jump in as Brian invites us to participate in two "thought experiments" about church-age optimism and church-age pessimism. And join him in wrestling with how the two views influence one of our Core Ideas: what we're actually supposed to be doing on this third rock from the sun.
Kyle, Tim, and Brian sit down to "Greenhouse" the previous episode, which explores the two primary groups of End Times views - those who hold to a "two people, two plan" storyline and those who hold to a "one people, one plan" storyline of the Bible.
Acknowledging and embracing the underlying assumptions and consequences of each view allows us to better understand our differences, our impressions of the Forgotten Kingdom, and thus our individual spiritual formation. Let's dig in.
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As we continue to explore the often hidden ideas and assumptions in our hearts, we also explore the assumptions of complex and sometimes divisive topics, including the End Times. Though there are four major perspectives regarding how this age will wrap up, are they built on certain underlying ideas that we might explore? As we seek to better understand the Forgotten Kingdom, we realize just how intimately connected our End Times views are to what story we believe the Bible is telling, and how we view the Bible itself.
As we continue this mini-series on how our End Times views impact our spiritual formation in the Kingdom, Kyle and Brian further explore and clarify the four main perspectives: premillennialism, dispensationalism, amillennialism, and postmillennialism.
Along the way, they dig into why discussing "peripheral" issues may be challenging for us today, and why the challenges may have little to do with the issues themselves.
As we explore the Forgotten Kingdom, we turn our attention to a necessary topic that continues to challenge, divide, and confuse modern Christianity - the End Times.
In many cases, the End Times has joined the growing list of topics that we no longer talk about in "polite conversation." Why is that? Is it about the positions themselves or a deeper heart reality?
After introducing the four primary views of the End Times at a high level, Brian explores some reasons why this is such a difficult topic, and how we might move forward despite these differences as we journey together into deep discipleship.
In this special Greenhouse episode, Brian and Kyle welcome Dr. Tim Boswell, our favorite intellectual scholar. Though the jokes and verbal barbs fly, they dig under the surface of our assumptions about the Kingdom to further explore what it actually is and how our view of it dramatically impacts our discipleship. Somehow the guys cover camping, Monty Python, and John Steinbeck while still staying relatively on topic.
Enjoy!
The Kingdom of God is a sometimes confusing, complicated reality that the modern Christian community struggles to teach and embrace, yet it is central to our journey to becoming more like Jesus. Perhaps it might make more sense if, instead of diving in and out of parts of the Bible like we normally do, we take a look at its Grand Narrative - the overall cosmic tale it weaves from Genesis through Revelation.
So let's take a look at the Bible's "bookends" to see what we might learn about what God is doing in the universe and how the Kingdom (and our own stories) fit into it.
As we continue digging into the primary problem of the Forgotten Kingdom, Brian and Kyle further explore the answer to our first question: What is the Kingdom of Light? Despite the fact the Kingdom is a primary theme of the Bible, there isn't always a strong consensus on what it is, when it is, or what our role is in it.
The guys sit down and dissect Dr. Jeremy Treat's succinct explanation ("God's reign through God's people over God's place"), and then toss around a few other potential definitions.
Along the way, they wrestle with the inherent "goodness" of creation as it relates to the Kingdom, and why we often struggle to embrace the concept that God's ideas are "deeper magic" than those of the darkness.
They rediscover just how important these often unconscious assumptions are in our personal journey of spiritual formation, and how they heavily impact our relationship with God, others, ourselves, and creation and culture.
Since the Forgotten Kingdom is one of the three primary problems facing the West today, it's high time we came up with a working definition of the Kingdom of Light. Brian briefly revisits seven of its characteristics (from Episode 3) and then asks critical questions about whether creation (nature, humans, culture, etc.) is, in essence, "good." Our ideas and assumptions about the "goodness" of creation play a fundamental role in how we define and understand the Kingdom, so let's wrestle with it on our journey to become more like its King.
Kyle and Brian step back into the Greenhouse to debate and discuss Episode 60, which is an introduction to Season 4 and the Kingdom. An aspect of living in the Kingdom is being "awake," and the guys clarify and explore what that really means. Then they revisit the on-going conflict between ideas and darkness and light, and how our expectation of the impact and power of those ideas affects how we live and operate in the world. Deep stuff on today's episode!
Release the hounds! Season 4 has begun. We're launching into our riveting and slightly out-of-the-box exploration of the Kingdom of Light.
As we explore what it means to become more like Jesus, we realize that the journey isn't just about assuming His characteristics. We must also understand and assume His purpose, His mission. Why did He come to Earth?
Though the West has largely forgotten the Kingdom, when we allow ourselves to become immersed in it, we realize just how vital the Kingdom is to our journey into deep discipleship.
In our last episode of Season 3, Brian and Kyle share their thoughts and perspectives on their personal spiritual formation in and through their local Greenhouse, and how the vision of Soil and Roots is to help form and support them worldwide. They also answer some common questions about these five-element communities before giving a sneak peek at Season 4.
Let's get practical! After thirty-some episodes of exploring the five elements of spiritual formation, Brian lays out how it all comes together in wonderful communities called Greenhouses. After summarizing why Greenhouses are so helpful for our formation, he shares the who, what, when, where, and how to form or join one.
There are two new visual aids that complement this episode. You can find them on the Resources tab at www.soiland.roots.org. If you'd like more info on Greenhouses, shoot us an email at fish@soilandroots.org.
Furthering exploring Episode 56, Kyle and Brian dig into this critical question: Why do most of us not experience repetitious and increasingly complex, formative Christian education today?
They discuss two out-of-the-box explanations: our assumptions about the afterlife and our assumptions about the role of a pastor.
And along the way, they argue about elementary school multiplication tables. Come along for the ride!
We live in an age of almost infinite options and accessibility to Christian instruction. Certainly, the disconnection and confusion we sometimes sense are not related to a lack of available teaching and preaching.
But do our Christian institutions provide an instructional path that is actually designed for deep discipleship - to guide us into becoming more and more like Jesus? Or is our adult Christian instructional experience more like sampling food items at Costco?
"Instruction" is virtually ubiquitous for people desiring to grow in Christ today, but do the available materials help us in the later, deeper stages of discipleship? Are they designed to guide us, in community, when we inevitably hit "the Wall?"
Brian and Kyle are back in the Greenhouse and carefully consider whether the modern church institution is even set up to help instruct us on the later stages of discipleship. If not, how do we grow to genuinely live the abundant, free life that the Bible promises?
As we head into our exploration of the last element of our spiritual formation, instruction, some critical questions arise.
We live in an era of ubiquitous Christian teaching. We have the ability to pull up one of thousands upon thousands of sermons, teachings, or courses on our phones at any moment.
Yet if many Christians are quietly wondering if there is more to the Western Christian life than what we typically experience, does this extraordinary abundance of available teaching truly help guide us into the deeper stages of our discipleship? Or do we find ourselves stuck in our journey, not sure how to dig beneath the surface to reach this "life without lack," or the "abundant life" or finally being "more than conquerors?"
Let's dig in!
Brian welcomes guest Dr. Tim Boswell into the Greenhouse to finish up our exploration of intimacy. As a means of forming us to be more like Jesus, what role does intimacy play, particularly as we struggle to form long-term communities for that purpose?
Tim and Brian dig deeper into the three popular "ideas" of a mature, intimate Christian introduced in Ep 52: the OP Christian, the Accurate Christian, and the Placid Christian. Does our vision of what a spiritually formed person looks like match up with biblical reality?
As we wrap up our exploration of intimacy as the fourth key element of formation, let’s take a look at a few of the ideas of what a mature, intimate disciple might look like: the OP Christian, the Accurate Christian, and the Placid Christian.
Is our unconscious idea of a vulnerable, wisely formed person healthy and helpful, or are we trapped in an idea that may lead us down a harmful road?
Is there really a difference between the unconscious ideas that govern us and our stated beliefs?
In this very personal episode, Brian asks Kyle to share parts of his own story that reveal what we all struggle with - a disconnect between our bedrock desires and ideas and the Christian beliefs we espouse. Making room in our lives to recognize these gaps, and making room in our hearts for communities to help us better integrate our ideas and beliefs is a foundational aspect of discipleship.
Then the guys explore how our unconscious ideas about vulnerability impact many of our Christian behaviors, including how we approach and read the Bible. Lots to explore in this densely-packed episode as we continue to dig into the fourth key element of formation - intimacy.
If our desires and our largely-unconscious ideas solidify in the bedrock of our hearts, how do these become formed to be more like the desires and ideas of Jesus? Is it simply a matter of knowing what our desires and ideas should be?
Drawing from themes explored throughout the podcast series so far, Brian digs into the differences between our belief system and our genuine ideas - and how they're often far more different than we'd like to admit. If we're courageous enough to uncover our core ideas, how then can they be transformed in our discipleship journey?
In what may be the deepest and most provocative episode so far, we explore just how vital healthy relational intimacy is to the shaping of our roots (hearts) and soil (ideas).
Back in the Greenhouse, Kyle and Brian dig into intimacy as a formative element in our journey to become more like our King. Why is it that the modern small group or community group effort often struggles between being "informative" and "formative?" How do we respond when our efforts to be transparent and intimate result in betrayal or abandonment? What role does intimacy play as we explore the difference between the "Christian image" and the reality of the brokenness of our own hearts?
Join Brian and Kyle as they explore the challenges and benefits of developing appropriate intimacy in communities, even as aspects of the church and culture are working against it.
Our fourth key element of spiritual formation is intimacy. Though every human longs for it, it remains elusive, particularly in western culture and churches. A "loneliness epidemic" continues to plague the west, even though we have more time and opportunity to be in relationship.
We explore some surprising findings in neuroscience that suggest we may be looking at our relationships with God, ourselves, and others are separate connections, yet they aren’t so easily separated.
Kyle and Brian take a deeper dive into the three layers of The Discipleship Sandwich: Spiritual formation, the Gospel of the Kingdom, and Five-element communities. Along the way, they explore a key historical driver of Christian fatalism, the role of suffering in the growth of the Kingdom, and the challenge of prosperity in making disciples. And, somehow, they manage to throw in frogs, scorpions, and the platypus.
In this special bonus episode, we zoom back out to take another look at the Three Primary Problems, but from a different angle. Let’s picture discipleship as a sandwich! The meat and cheese is our spiritual formation, the top piece of bread is the Kingdom, and the bottom is our Five-Element Communities. In our current age, holistic formation in Jesus means feasting on the entire sandwich! And we’ll tackle one or two of the ideas that can make consuming our sandwich challenging in the west. Time to eat.
Brian and Kyle sit down in the Greenhouse and have a casual but earnest conversation about narcissism in the church. Pulling from their respective stories and Brian's study of narcissism, they explore some key questions.
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Why did God permit them both to experience the impact of narcissists?
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How difficult is to identify them and relate to them?
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How might we love and embrace a narcissist?
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How may we care for others harmed by narcissism?
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How should an Immersive Community of Formation handle a narcissist?
Sit in and listen to a very personal dialogue filled with some hurt, confession, and hope.
As we finish off our exploration of the third element of formation, community, let’s talk about one of the greatest potential dangers to a healthy ICF - narcissists.
Narcissism remains a persistent plague in the western church, both in the congregation and in leadership. What is it? How can we recognize it? What can be done about it? If Jesus calls us to love our neighbor, and that includes the sociopathic narcissist, how might we do that?
Dallas Willard suggested that, if the modern church made genuine disciples, evangelism would mostly take care of itself. Instead, evangelical churches adopt various training programs, continually expressing frustration at the lack of participation from their congregations. Perhaps we're missing the bigger picture, both in our modern definition of "evangelism" and the deeper reasons why it may not be happening the way some think it should.
Kyle and Brian head back into the Greenhouse to explore why ICFs aren't the same thing as other Christian communities, and how making genuine disciples in Kingdom-centric communities impacts our view of reality and the mission of the church, including evangelism.
We’re continuing to explore this new concept of the “Immersive Community of Formation” as a solution to the Three Primary Problems currently facing the west. But is an “ICF” simply another term for corporate worship, community group, small group, family, or close friendship? Or is an ICF something different, specific, and particular to our time and circumstances? Let’s dig in.
Kyle and Brian head back into the Greenhouse to discuss the previous episode, Let the Professionals Handle It. As we continue to explore Immersive Communities of Formation as a means of discipleship, Kyle digs into questions about the Gospel of the Kingdom, evangelism, our fears about being in vulnerable, transparent groups of fellow sojourners, and the role of church institutions. Sit in on their conversation and enjoy the journey!
As we continue to explore what formative communities should look like, we are faced with a pressing question: must our ICF’s be tied into a local or national church institution? If we are formed by doing life together in tight, trusted communities, does that always describe our local church? If not, what do we do?
This episode asks some hard questions about denominations, church governance, “professional” Christianity, and the difference between institutional demands and personal character. It’s a deep one!
Soil and Roots welcomes a new friend to the team this week: co-host Kyle Moody!
In an effort to promote "more dialogue, less monologue," we're introducing a new type of episode: The Greenhouse, the place where our soil and roots grow in community.
Every other episode will now feature Brian and Kyle digging into the previous topic in a casual conversation to engage deeper with the ideas and themes.
This week, Brian and Kyle discuss ICF's as "sit-com communities." Can Christians in the west really form these types of tight, sacrificial communities? Where we can fail freely, confess openly, doubt without fear, and grow together in grace? What is the first step in forming one? What are some roadblocks as we pray through being discipled in immersive communities?
Welcome to the first Greenhouse episode!
As we move into the third Key Element of Formation, Community, we now reach one of the crucial challenges in modern Christianity. If specific communities are where discipleship is designed to happen, why are so many Christians lonely and friendless? If we are formed by being part of close-knit, vulnerable groups who know us, our names, and embraces us even when we’re a mess, where do we find these types of people? We find some of the best examples of “ICF’s” in a surprising place…Hollywood.
What should a disciple’s “habit” be related to creation and culture? Though modern Christianity assumes our primary role is evangelism or missions or apologetics (all of which are very good things), do we have yet a deeper, broader, grander role to play with God? And does it involve all Seven Mountains of Culture (family, education, business, arts, media, church and even government)? We find the answers by discovering the fascinating links between the two primary “co-missions” in the Bible.
Immersive Communities of Formation have Five Key Elements in common. We're exploring the second element, habits. We've already looked at the habits of hearing God and hearing the hearts of others. Today we'll dig into the habit of hearing our own hearts. Since the heart is the core of who we are, does the Bible give us any insight into the characteristics of the heart? And some Christians struggle to focus on themselves because it makes us feel guilty or selfish. We'll explore why that is, and why listening to our own hearts is actually a loving and formative practice.
Disciples in Immersive Communities of Formation (ICF’s) practice certain habits to become more like their King. And Jesus has a marvelous habit of listening to hearts, not just words. We’re taking a wild ride today, starting with some deep theology and ending up in modern sales training! All in the context of learning a habit we call “heart-listening.”
When we think about habits as a key element of formation, we normally and rightly think about “disciplines” like prayer, fasting, Bible reading, and Scripture meditation. What about hearing personally from God? That was certainly a habit of Jesus. Should we not expect to hear personally from God as we grow to be more like His Son? Let’s explore this sometimes misunderstood habit.
In yet another Bonus Episode (!), we zoom out to 100k feet and take a look at the Three Primary Problems and their impact on the western church and civilization. This episode is a companion to Ep 31, and the two together provide the high level framework for the Soil and Roots journey and the Immersive Communities of Formation we are recreating. For those of you interested in "how ICF's are formed," this one closes with some great framework and ideas.
As we move on to explore Habits, our second Key Element of Spiritual Formation, let’s start by defining what exactly is a habit. Then we’ll explore the age-old question: Do habits change the heart, or does a heart change result in new habits? Lastly, we’ll answer some listener questions and tie it all together with a personal story about working on a new habit that Jesus exhibited all the time.
Access the visual aids for free at the Soil and Roots site.
This Bonus episode introduces a brand new Soil and Roots visual aid: The Three Primary Problems. Brian maintains these problems are at the root of the decay and isolation in western culture. This chart breaks down the Three Primary Problems by contrasting assumptions and reductions in modern Christianity with the Biblical vision of the Kingdom, discipleship and the Church. You can find the new chart at www.soilandroots.org/resources. Pull it up and follow along as you listen!
As we finish our exploration of the first Key Element of Spiritual Formation, we further consider how a disciple uses Time. Time doing what? And with whom? Are we formed simply by spending more time in the traditional spiritual disciplines, or are there other relationships and activities with which we should be intentionally engaging?
As we continue to explore the Five Key Elements of Spiritual Formation, we dig deep into the element of time. How does time relate to evangelism? How does evangelism relate to discipleship? What does it mean to be “present in time” in the context of our four relationships so that we allow discipleship to occur?
We're exploring the Five Key Elements of Discipleship and looking at the key element of time. And you've been asking some great questions! One question in particular keeps popping up (and involves time), so this bonus episode addresses your question.
Your question is: How do we recreate these immersive cultures of formation? How do we find the time?
We tackle your insightful question from a few different angles, and I also attempt to lower our stress and tension by suggesting you've most likely already created these types of communities!
Neuroscience! Recent studies and research on brain functioning shed light on how our hearts are genuinely formed. And there's far more to our spiritual formation than church events and Bible studies. As we might expect, what modern neuroscientists are discovering align with what Jesus and the apostles modeled over 2,000 years ago.
In this introduction to Season 3, we sum up what we've explored so far and prep our hearts for a deep dig into the average western church experience.
Brian reviews the Three Primary Problems: the Forgotten Kingdom, the Discipleship Dilemma, and the Formation Gap.
And then he lays the groundwork for our journey into the Formation Gap: the distance between what our hearts truly need to be formed into the likeness of Jesus versus what most western Christians actually experience.
Season 2 ends by asking some critical questions of modern Christianity: how has post-modernism impacted our faith and our churches? How has it impacted our discipleship? Brian digs into three primary concerns: the disproportionate elevation of the intellect, the devaluation of the individual, and the loss of an integrated view of ourselves and reality.
Lastly, we discuss a potential criticism of Heartview - the habit of uncovering our hidden ideas and desires. Doesn't it focus too much on the self? Isn't it just Christian navel-gazing?
We've covered a ton of ground so far! Over the first two seasons, we've introduced the three primary problems in the West: the loss of the Gospel of the Kingdom, the loss of genuine discipleship, and the loss of true communities of spiritual formation. That last challenge - what we call The Formation Gap - will be the focus of Season 3. Stay tuned!
As always you can find out more about the Soil and Roots podcast by visiting www.soilandroots.org.
As we wrap up Season 2 with these last two episodes, we zoom out to summarize the Soil and Roots journey so far. What are the three primary problems in western Christianity and culture? What are the three solutions? Why is Heartview so vital for Christians, and why are we typically reluctant to engage in it?
Finally, to further illustrate just how important discipleship is, we take a brief trip through the last 2,000 years of the development of western thought. Based on some new ground-breaking work of leading Christian thinkers, we explore just how radically different our cultural assumptions are now compared to any previous age. These "Ideas in the Air" are driving western culture deeper and deeper into despair, yet the ever-growing Kingdom of Light invites us to hope, life, and healing.
To access the free visual aids mentioned in this episode, go to the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org.
Heartview Indicator #8: Money!
How we view and use money provides us fantastic insights into the ideas and desires in our hearts. Back when Brian was in the financial services industry, he realized he could group people into two primary categories when it comes to money: Wardens and Wingers. Wardens treat money as their prisoner and Wingers...well...wing it!
But are their deeper reasons why people treat money the way they do? Let's continue our exploration of the human heart as we uncover the bedrock reasons why money is such a powerful influence on us - and also how it's such a powerful indicator of the condition of our spirits.
Heartview Indicator #7: Time
Time is a fascinating, mysterious, complex indicator of what is going on our hearts. Not only can we explore how we use and steward our own time, we should also evaluate how others use time in the formation of our hearts. We are creatures who are made for - and long for - intimacy and relationships. And our longings can only be filled in the context of time - something the modern Christian struggles to embrace.
In this vulnerable episode, Brian explores how we can take a "time inventory" as a way of helping us understand what we truly love and desire. But he also explores, through one of his own childhood experiences, how others use time to form us - for our good or for our destruction.
For more information, check out www.soilandroots.org.
Heartview Indicator #6: Words.
What do our words tell us about the hidden desires and ideas in our hearts? As it turns out, they tell us plenty about the inner recesses of our roots and soil. Today we explore three facets of our words: the volume of words we use, the words we use instinctually, and the words we don't use. Though talk really is cheap, we can nonetheless dig beneath the surface with God and trusted friends to uncover our hearts by studying what we do and don't say.
If you need a great visual aid, check out the Heartview picture on the Resources tab on the site.
Heartview Indicator #5: Relationships
God has placed us into 4 relationships: with Him, with others, with ourselves, and with creation and culture. Navigating these relationships can be tricky, but what if there is more going on in our hearts than we initially realize? What if our origin stories have a large impact on our ability to develop and maintain healthy relationships today - including how we relate to God? Brian explores the fascinating world of Attachment and how it provides a signpost pointing back to the desires and ideas in our hearts.
Make sure to pull up the Heartview picture on the Resources tab at soilandroots.org for today's episode.
Heartview Indicator #4: Behavior
Our fourth Heartview Indicator is our behavior - our repeated patterns of actions. What can our behaviors tell us about the ideas and desires in our hearts? As we seek to become mature disciples of Jesus, we seek to understand why we behave the way we do - and that includes more than spiritual behaviors that score us points with other Christians. Ironically, we learn a lot about how to evaluate behaviors by looking at a few of the most manipulative men in modern history...who understood spiritual formation better than many Christians.
If you haven't yet done so, check out the Heartview Picture on the Resources Page at www.soilandroots.org.
We dig into the third Heartview Indicator today - our health. How do we understand our health in light of the narratives we hear from modern medicine and culture? And how does our physical, mental, and spiritual health uncover desires and ideas in our hearts as we grow as disciples of Jesus? Let's explore how our physical health can uncover spiritual conditions, and how a truly integrated view of our humanity differs from western culture's ideas.
This episode is part of a mini-series on Heartview - exploring 8 Indicators that point us down into our soils - into the desires and ideas that mold and shape us.
Why do we sometimes act in ways that contradict our beliefs? Is it true that, "we are what we believe," or is there something deeper in our hearts we need to explore? What is our bedrock?
As we continue our journey through the 8 Indicators, Brian takes a pause to provide context and stories around Heartview. And he introduces two new visual resources! The Creation Picture gets an updated look, with added illustrations about Ideas in the Air and Ideas in the Soil. There is also a new picture called Heartview which provides a simple look at how desires, ideas, beliefs, and the Indicators interact.
Let's dig into the very bottom of our hearts and see how God meets us there as we seek to love what He loves.
What do we do with our emotions? Do we chase after them, hoping they fill our heart's desires? Or do we reject them because "mature" Christians shouldn't feel things like anger, confusion and sadness?
We're continuing our look at each of our Heartview Indicators, and today we dig into the confusing and sometimes derided world of emotions. If spiritual formation means we become more and more like Jesus, does Jesus have feelings and how did He express them?
For more information on the podcast or for free resources, check out www.soilandroots.org.
Heartview Indicator #1: Thoughts.
Continuing our discussion on Heartview, we explore the first of our 8 Indicators - our thoughts. How do our thought patterns help us understand the ideas and desires in our hearts? Using a simple process of Uncover, Determine, and Immerse, we take a look at some very powerful ideas in creation and culture (Ideas in the Air) and an example from a personal story. Ideas in the Air and ideas from own stories form the Ideas in our Soil - those assumptions we unconsciously make about God, others, ourselves, and creation. Let's dig in together and discover how our thinking points us back to what our hearts truly desire.
Today we start a mini-series on Heartview - how we uncover the hidden ideas in our hearts as they govern and power us. This introduction to the upcoming episodes lays out why Heartview is essential for the Christian life, how it differs and compliments Worldview, and how it can lead to healing and wholeness for wounded souls. Brian references the Creation Picture visual aid again, and you can find it at the Soil and Roots website.
Exploring the Core Idea of Human Value.
We have dozens of categories of hidden ideas in our hearts, but none more fundamental than our 6 Core Ideas: Identity, Anthropology, Value, Power, Purpose, and Love. Using a new resource on the Soil and Roots website, we carefully dissect the Idea of Human Value, contrasting the versions from the Kingdom of Light and the Kingdom of Darkness. Then we take our first crack at "Heartview" - using our Idea Indicators to uncover what our hearts embrace about our own worth.
Download the new episode guide from the Resources tab on the website.
Christian institutions and their role in our spiritual formation.
Americans love our institutions - we love starting them, feeding them, and growing them. But how do institutions relate to our spiritual formation? What role do local church institutions play in our discipleship? We are personal, relational beings who long to be known - can institutions "know" us? Let's take a sober-minded look at America's love of large churches to determine how they do or do not help us uncover the hidden ideas in our hearts and grow to be more like Christ. For more resources, check out the Soil and Roots website.
In western culture, what role does the local church play in our discipleship - our spiritual formation? Is it central to it, directing it, a part of it, or not related to it? We compare the average local church experience to other well-known formative experiences - and the conclusions we draw may be surprising.
Today's episode relies heavily on a resource called the Formation Evaluation Worksheet. You can find it on the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org.
Let's take a few minutes to summarize what we've covered so far. This is a great Cliffs Notes episode if you want a refresher of Episodes 1-9, or if you cheated and didn't listen to the episodes in numerical order (shame on you). We cover the evidence of confusion in the modern church, why having a clear vision, path, and context for our spiritual formation is so important, and how we can uncover the hidden ideas in our hearts so that we love well as sons and daughters in the Kingdom. Check out the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org for our visual aids.
We've adopted a definition of discipleship as "the process by which our ideas of darkness are progressively transformed into ideas of light." But we've also noted that we aren't usually conscious of many of the ideas in our hearts! Often times it takes a crisis for us to dig under the surface to uncover what's going on. Can we discern our hearts at other times? We answer that question, and look at some very practical "signs" in our lives that point back to our hidden ideas, desires, and assumptions. For more info, check out the Resources tab on the Soil and Roots website.
Ideas are powerful, governing forces in our hearts. Where do the come from? How do they form us? When do we normally become aware of them? We briefly review the topic of true discipleship from last episode, and then dive into the anatomy of ideas including their origin, location, and formation. Brian shares an example from his own life of an idea of darkness that is slowly being transformed into an idea of light. Check out the resources tab at www.soilandroots.org for the Creation Picture referenced in this episode.
Now that we have our feet wet on the topic of "ideas" and how powerfully they operate inside our hearts, let's head up to 30K feet and take an honest look at discipleship in modern Christianity. Is discipleship simply about taking in more information, or is it much more than that? Is the average local church able to truly "disciple" its people, or does American life as we know it work against making disciples? Let's lay our cards on the table and talk about what spiritual formation really is, and whether or not western Christianity is producing genuine disciples or simply educated converts. More information is available on the resources tab at www.soilandroots.org.
We continue our deep dive into Ideas of Anthropology. What we assume about being human has a tremendous impact on how we live our lives in the Kingdom of God. Bad Ideas of Anthropology not only show up in our sex-saturated culture, they also show up right in the middle of contemporary Christianity - in ways in which we may not even be conscious. Make sure to have the Creation Picture and On Being Human pictures on hand from the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org.
What are we? What does it mean to be "human?" When we talk about discipleship, or spiritual formation, what do we mean by "spirit" and how is it formed? We have a body, a mind, a soul, a spirit, a heart - how do these all fit together? We dig in to explore what it means to be a human being and we introduce a new category of idea: Ideas of Anthropology. Check out the "On Being Human" picture on the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org as you listen in.
Is the world winding up or down? Are we headed towards a worldwide crisis or is the Kingdom of God growing and influencing all aspects of humanity?
Whether we know it or not, we have "Ideas of Expectation" in our hearts about where the world is headed, and these ideas have tremendous influence on our thoughts, emotions, behaviors, and relationships. We explore one popular "Idea of Expectation" called Christian fatalism, and how it relates to the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Christian church in the west. If you haven't already done so, check out the Creation Picture for reference at www.soilandroots.org.
Let's take a closer look at our discipleship through the lens of the Creation Picture by digging into the 7 mountains of culture. Since it all part of God's Kingdom, we then explore 7 attributes of the Kingdom of Light. You can view and download the Creation Picture on the Resources tab at www.soilandroots.org.
We start our journey into our hearts to discover the hidden ideas that govern and power us. On this episode we explore the Idea of the Gospel - or rather two versions of it. What do we assume when we hear the term, "the Gospel?" And why is it normally paired with "the Kingdom" in the New Testament? Is there a difference between the Gospel and the Gospel of the Kingdom?
How this idea settles into our hearts has a profound impact on our relationship with God, ourselves, others, and culture. Make sure to refer to the visual aid, the Creation Picture, at www.soilandroots.org on the Resources page.
Let's dig in!
Welcome to the Soil and Roots Podcast. In this first episode, Brian discusses the confusion that often surrounds concepts such as "discipleship" and "spiritual formation" in the Christian faith. How do we know if we are actually growing in Christ? Where are we headed and how do we know if we are moving in the right direction? As a way to help answer these tough questions, Brian introduces the fascinating, little known, and helpful world of ideas: fundamental assumptions and principles in which our hearts are rooted - but of which we are typically unaware.