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Welcome to INFI: the Future of Finance, hosted by American economist and author Dr. Robert P. Murphy. Each week tune in for dynamic discussions with business pioneers about emerging trends in finance, life insurance, asset management, technology, and more.
Bob uses a recent tweet from Steve Keen to weigh in on an old controversy. Government deficits don't cause price inflation per se, but they often encourage the central bank to create more money, which is inflationary. The distinction matters: a deficit is a fiscal phenomenon, but the inflation mechanism requires monetary policy—specifically, central bank accommodation of government borrowing. Bob unpacks why Keynesians, Austrians, and MMT economists talk past each other on this question, and where each school gets the causation right and wrong.
Related: - https://x.com/ProfSteveKeen/status/2083718398119166163 - https://cdn.mises.org/Making%20Economic%20Sense_3.pdf - https://mises.org/quarterly-journal-austrian-economics/deficit-myth-modern-monetary-theory-and-birth-peoples-economy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaUlKM1z4kI - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1027301323209
Chapters: 0:00 — Intro 0:20 — Steve Keen's tweets on deficits + What deficits are (and are NOT) 6:00 — The role of the central bank: monetizing the deficit 9:40 — Why "deficits cause inflation" is imprecise 13:10 — MMT vs. Austrian economics on money printing 16:50 — Real constraints vs. fiscal constraints 20:05 — Can a government ever run out of money? 23:30 — Historical examples of deficit-driven inflation 27:00 — What Steve Keen gets right (and wrong) 29:35 — The takeaway: deficits, money, and your wallet
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Bob explains the numerous flaws with NYC Mayor Mamdani's proposal to have government-run grocery stores sell key items at 30% below retail. Bob also explains the problem with a popular meme asking why people pay taxes if the government can just print money.
MAMDANI MARTS — WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
NYC Mayor Mamdani wants to open five city-run grocery stores selling a core set of items at 30% below typical retail prices. It sounds like a win for struggling New Yorkers — but the economics tell a very different story.
Bob walks through the cascade of problems this creates: - The Competition Problem - The "Savings" Illusion - The Shelf-Stripping Problem - Who Actually Benefits? - The Opportunity Cost - Better Alternatives Exist
Bob then responds to a Libertarian Party-retweeted image asking why people pay taxes if government can print money, warning it echoes MMT-style misconceptions: at current spending levels, replacing taxation with money printing would trigger massive inflation and currency collapse, similar to financing everything by borrowing without taxation. He cites the Fed's balance-sheet expansion during COVID and the ensuing high inflation to illustrate limits of monetary financing.
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Bob draws on three clips from a popular video discussing the banking sector, pre- and post-Fed. Bob dispels myths about the "wildcat" banks of the so-called Free Banking era, and shows that the Fed clearly led to more economic instability (as well as inflation).
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uTadogtI4 - https://infineo.ai/podcast/100 - https://www.minneapolisfed.org/research/quarterly-review/free-banking-wildcat-banking-and-shinplasters - https://infineo.ai/resources/blog/does-history-show-government-debt-paydown-causes-a-crash - https://www.fte.org/wp-content/uploads/WhiteSelginLastrapesFed1.pdf
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Alex Tabarrok is a professor of economics at George Mason University. He joins Bob to discuss the problems with the typical economic analysis of crime, which (in the hands of Gary Becker) advocated increasing the punishment to bolster deterrence.
Related: - https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/09/what-was-gary-beckers-biggest-mistake.html - https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/17285.Jane_Jacobs
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Spurred by the NYC rent freeze, Bob lays out the theory and history of rent control, explaining why it hurts the people it ostensibly is supposed to help. He also shows why a "revisionist" paper actually confirms the textbook arguments against rent control.
Related: - https://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/RentControl - https://sci-hub.st/10.1016/j.jue.2006.06.004
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Using the 2009 testimony of Brad DeLong as a foil, Bob defends the gold standard from the typical accusation that it was responsible for the Great Depression. Bob shows that even after leaving gold, both the UK and US remain mired with double-digit unemployment for longer than prior depressions had lasted.
Related: - https://infineo.ai/resources/blog/Did-Gold-Cause-the-Great-Depression - https://fee.org/articles/the-depression-youve-never-heard-of-1920-1921
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Bob presents several lines of evidence to argue that the Federal Reserve under Alan Greenspan helped fuel the housing bubble in the early to mid-2000s. He also pushes back against the claim that it was an Asian savings glut to blame.
Related: - https://cdn.mises.org/understanding_money_mechanics_with_cover_image_attached.pdf - https://mises.org/mises-daily/did-fed-or-asian-saving-cause-housing-bubble - https://mises.org/mises-daily/krugmans-call-housing-bubble - https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/greenspans-monetary-policy-retrospect - https://mises.org/mises-daily/worst-recession-25-years
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Bob goes through a recent Substack post (adapted from his book) by Arin Dube, a leading economist pushing for aggressive minimum wage hikes. Bob shows the weaknesses in Dube's results, and gives an alternative measure detailing just how chilling minimum wage hikes may be on teen employment.
Related: - https://arindube.substack.com/p/a-minimum-wage-natural-experiment - https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2014/Murphyminimumwage.html
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Brent Johnson (of "dollar milkshake" fame) recently posted a video relaying the Triffin Dilemma to our current monetary situation. Bob pushes back, arguing that there was no problem with the dollar being tied to gold, and that its days as the global reserve are fewer than Brent thinks.
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bej0-8r8Rmk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghdkFVKBW4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19xHntPZVvg - https://mises.org/mises-daily/putting-country-back-gold
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Bob launches a 10-part series on money, banking, insurance, and blockchain. This initial lecture gives the definition of money, explains the properties of a good money, and surveys various monies through history.
Related: - https://miltonfriedman.hoover.org/internal/media/dispatcher/215061/full - https://courses.cit.cornell.edu/econ4260/out/radford_pow.pdf - https://cdn.mises.org/Study%20Guide%20to%20the%20Theory%20of%20Money%20and%20Credit_2.pdf - https://cdn.mises.org/understanding_money_mechanics_with_cover_image_attached.pdf
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Bob points out the numerous fallacies in a recent video arguing government debt is simply national savings.
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMfCrIhlAm8 - https://infineo.ai/resources/blog/richard-murphy-on-the-economics-of-christmas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj0zRmEWYc - https://infineo.ai/resources/blog/a-biz-vs-a-bank-vs-the-fed-part-3-of-3 - https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2015/Murphywardebt.html
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Robert Rapier has decades of experience in fossil and biofuels, including six years with ConocoPhillips. He joins Bob to correct a common misconception about US refineries. Although in practice they focus on heavy sour crude (sourced from Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela), they are physically capable of handling the light sweet produced by the fracking boom. It just makes more economic sense to export those barrels abroad and fetch a higher price. Rapier's analysis gives a better understanding of US energy independence in these volatile times.
Related: - https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2026/04/05/debunking-a-persistent-myth-us-refineries-cant-handle-shale-oil - https://infineo.ai/resources/blog/iran-conflict-and-complexities-of-global-oil-trade-1-of-2
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Bob draws on the work of Robert Aro to show how the Fed's massive reverse repo operations explain (a) why consumer price inflation wasn't worse after Covid and (b) why the Fed's tightening hasn't yet led to a market crash.
Related: - https://mises.org/podcasts/human-action-podcast/robert-aro-feds-reverse-repo-trick - https://infineo.ai/podcast/71
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Bob gives the historical context and the implications of the US federal debt exceeding 100% of GDP. He also shows why the dismissal by MMTer Stephanie Kelton misses the mark.
Related: - https://www.newsweek.com/us-debt-bigger-than-gdp-does-it-matter-11903945 - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61270 - https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RS22331 - https://www.fxcintel.com/research/analysis/cips-growth-may-2025
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Bob looks at the latest figures to give an update on the US oil and gasoline status, in light of the ongoing standoff with Iran. He points out that certain "irrational" government policies now seem understandable.
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Bob unpacks the alarming remarks from former Treasury Secretary (and Goldman CEO) Hank Paulson in a Bloomberg interview. Paulson actually recommends the creation of an emergency "break the glass" plan if the Fed should become the only buyer of Treasuries.
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQY_h48GbQM
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Tony Garcia has a master's degree and decades of experience in cybersecurity. He joins Bob to discuss what happened in the Drift heist, and what lessons can be learned—in a context of tradeoffs where security is only one of several goals.
Related: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/01/de-fi-platform-drift-suspends-deposits-and-withdrawals-after-millions-in-crypto-stolen-in-hack
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Michael Fraser is co-founder of Action / Insight, a business AI consulting firm out of Toronto. He is also an amateur expert in Austrian economics, and recently presented a conference paper arguing that today's leading LLMs (such as Claude or ChatGPT) satisfy the criteria for "action" laid out by Ludwig von Mises.
Related: - https://infineo.ai/podcast/22 - https://actioninsight.ai
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Murphy analyzes three recent news items: progress on the CLARITY Act, the SEC clarification on which blockchain items are NOT securities, and Sen. Marsha Blackburn's proposals to regulate AI.
Related: - https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2026/03/20/congress/senators-strike-deal-with-white-house-to-resolve-bank-crypto-clash-00837464 - https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/atkins-remarks-regulation-crypto-assets-031726 - https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/2026/3/technology/blackburn-releases-discussion-draft-of-national-policy-framework-for-artificial-intelligence/3b3b6458-b6c7-478b-9859-374949586765 - https://infineo.ai/bank-of-americas-ceo-warns-stablecoins-could-take-6-trillion-of-deposits
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A popular objection on social media states that the US only gets 2% of its crude oil via the Persian Gulf, and so therefore the conflict in Iran shouldn't affect prices at the pump for Americans. Murphy explains the various problems with this argument.
Related: - https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2008/Murphyoil.html - https://mises.org/mises-daily/social-function-call-and-put-options - https://journal.apee.org/ARTICLES_2018_Journal_of_Private_Enterprise_Vol_33_No_1_Spring_parte5
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Murphy explains the economics of the interruption of oil exports from the Persian Gulf. He shows that the recent peak in crude prices was nowhere near the (inflation-adjusted) 2008 spike, and offers further commentary on the position of China.
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOaei2ADDA - https://journal.apee.org/ARTICLES_2018_Journal_of_Private_Enterprise_Vol_33_No_1_Spring_parte5 - https://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/implications-of-the-conflict-in-the-middle-east-for-chinas-energy-security
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Responding to a discussion on X, Murphy documents the official rise in grocery food prices over the last 30 years, and then explains the role of monetary inflation.
Related: - https://infineo.ai/why-are-groceries-so-expensive-part-1-of-2 - https://infineo.ai/podcast/116
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Murphy analyzes the past 15 year performance of gold versus Bitcoin. He also offers thoughts on the recent spike in gold.
Related: - https://infineo.ai/gold-versus-bitcoin - https://infineo.ai/tether-is-becoming-a-market-based-central-bank
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Julia Cartwright is a Senior Researcher with the American Institute for Economic Research (AIER). She joins Murphy to diagnose the demographic, fiscal, and monetary quagmire of Japan, and warns that other countries in Europe and Asia are sinking into the same abyss.
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The editor of the Modern Age magazine joins Murphy to discuss a California ballot initiative that would assess a 5% wealth tax on any billionaires in the state.
Related: - https://chroniclesmagazine.org/web/from-rock-to-tech-talent-flees-taxes
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In the wake of an X Spaces discussion, Murphy critically assesses various explanations for why the USD has value, such as the military and power to tax. He also explains the contributions of Ludwig von Mises to monetary theory.
Related: - https://cdn.mises.org/understanding_money_mechanics_with_cover_image_attached.pdf
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Alex Stevens and Sam Peterson of the Institute for Energy Research join Murphy to explain why government policy, not AI data centers, are to blame for surging electricity prices.
Related: - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/12/24/energy-prices-regulation
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Recently President Trump called for a 10% cap on credit card interest rates, and $200 billion of purchases of mortgage-backed securities. Both moves were intended to help the average American. They each have unintended economic consequences, but the policies are structured differently and require different tools of analysis.
Related: - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/09/trump-orders-mortgage-bond-purchases-these-stocks-are-jumping.html - https://www.businessinsider.com/ackman-trump-call-cap-credit-card-interest-mistake-affordability-2026-1
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Anirudh Pai is a partner at Robot Ventures, who has a long history in innovative finance. He has a broad discussion with Murphy covering various topics including smart contracts, decentralized governance, and prediction markets being used as insurance.
Related: - https://robvc.com - https://electricsheep.substack.com - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEa2AEr0jcc - https://x.com/ani_pai
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In InFi ep. 116, Eric Weinstein talked with Bob for more than 2 hours on applying gauge theory to economics. In this episode, Bob unpacks some of the key lessons from the discussion.
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Anja Dragovic is an Australian-based host of the Honest Money Show, a podcast that brings Bitcoin education, with an emphasis on bringing women into the honest-money movement. She joins Bob to explain her own discovery of Austrian economics and the virtues of sound money, as well as the major roadblocks to Bitcoin adoption.
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Bob draws on the yield curve, Fed announcements, and labor market data to give his assessment of the economy for the coming year.
Related: - https://infineo.ai/a-macroeconomic-outlook-part-1-of-2 - https://infineo.ai/a-macroeconomic-outlook-part-2-of-2
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Eric Weinstein joins Bob Murphy to discuss his work with Pia Malaney on a more economically relevant differential operator, which has important implications for cost-of-living adjustments. Eric Weinstein has a PhD in mathematics from Harvard University, and among other academic appointments was a Research Associate in the Harvard economics department from 1998 - 2001, where he co-founded the Science and Engineering Workforce Project (SEWP) with Richard Freeman, housed at the NBER and funded by the Sloan Foundation.
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Keith Weiner is founder and CEO of Monetary Metals, a company that pays its customers interest on their gold and silver, denominated in ounces of gold and silver. The company has arrangements with jewelers, miners, and other industry participants to make their offers credible. Keith joins Dr. Murphy to discuss the mission of Monetary Metals, their unique business model, and his views on fiat currency and cryptocurrencies.
Related: - https://www.monetary-metals.com - https://keithweinereconomics.com/2012/02/02/gold-bonds-to-avert-financial-armageddon
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Bob was a panelist for Benzinga's Fintech Day & Awards in NYC on November 10. In this episode he shares some of the highlights of the discussion, including the interaction between tradfi banks and stablecoin issuers.
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Alex Pollock has decades of experience in banking operations and regulation, including serving as the CEO of the Federal Home Loan Bank of Chicago and a director of research position at the US Treasury. He joins Bob to discuss the GENIUS Act and the potential risks that banks pose to stablecoin issuers.
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Bob uses a recent Hoover Institution interview of Arthur Laffer to explain the debate between fixed versus floating exchange rates. Back during the classical gold standard, there was a sense in which the entire world used one money. This could be our future with Bitcoin or another cryptocurrency.
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Wealth management advisor Drew Benson has Bob on his own podcast to discuss a wide range of topics, centered on the economics of stablecoins as well as the impact of AI.
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Prompted by discussions with a client, Murphy first explains the sense in which our banks issued debt-based money. Then he explores whether it would work to use equity instead.
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Bob explains the predicament in which Javier Milei finds himself, and concludes that the incoming radical libertarian president should have partially defaulted on the central bank's crushing debt burden.
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Bob gives highlights from two recent blog posts, in which he uses an analogy with self-driving trucks to sharpen the conversation around Trump's H1B visa reform.
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Rex Tracer is the founder and CEO of DRVN Labo, which is an automotive web3 product development studio, focusing on RWAs, tokenized car-culture media, and on-chain community building tools. Rex talks with Bob about their project and the economics of investible cars, but also his tales of racing.
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In a recent issue of The International Economy, Treasury Secretary Bessent wrote an impressive critique of the Federal Reserve's actions since the 2008 crisis, some of which dovetail with Murphy's own earlier critiques. In this episode Murphy goes through the chief points of the article and elaborates.
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Bob uses recent tweets and video clips to showcase incomplete or muddled thinking when it comes to money and debt. He shows how the framework of Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises cuts through the confusion.
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Murphy argues that the Intel "deal" is an ominous precedent that will make businesses think twice before locating in the United States. If the goal was to boost the production of defense-sensitive components, it was a terrible move.
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Responding to a spate of criticism of BlackRock (sic) on social media, Bob gives a qualified defense of the type of business that Blackstone (sic) is engaged in—namely, the institutional purchase of real estate, including single-family homes, and renting them to tenants.
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Bob uses a recent Federal Reserve post as the jumping off point to explain the pros and cons of different approaches to capturing the capital gain accruing from revaluing the government's (alleged) stockpiles of gold. Right now, they are valued at $42.22 per troy ounce, which is well below the market rate. But many on social media seem to believe the Fed can create money filling the gap, without causing price pressure.
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Murphy first cites some news items showcasing the Trump Administration's pro-blockchain initiatives, and explains that this will foster even greater institutional adoption. He then explains the long-run economics of Bitcoin adoption, contrasting the different motivations of speculation versus hedging and use as a medium of exchange.
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Tyler Watts returns to the podcast to give an economic history lesson on how "free banking" worked in the US in the decades before the Civil War. Contrary to Barry Eichengreen's warnings in the NYT, stablecoins shouldn't scare us—freedom in banking is just as good as freedom in other industries.
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Murphy continues his economic analysis of the GENIUS Act, seeking to answer the question: Does it—as many critics allege—pave the way for a central bank digital currency, or does it protect Americans from such a fate?
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In recent commentary, Murphy has said that the GENIUS Act—by imposing 100% reserve requirements on USD stablecoins—is much stricter than the regulations on conventional banks. In this episode, he spells out his argument.
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Nicki Sanders has worked in the blockchain space since 2015. She is currently leading engineering for Porto, which is Anchorage Digital's institutional self-custody platform. She joins Bob to discuss the GENIUS Act (which recently passed the Senate), its implications for the USD stablecoin industry, and the broader future of tokenized real-world assets.
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In the wake of the arguments over the Big Beautiful Bill, Bob walks through a hypothetical fiscal reform to push partisans on the Right to reform their frameworks.
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Journalist and author Robert Bryce discusses the Chinese near-monopoly over critical rare earth supplies, necessary for auto production and other critical industries. He argues that Trump's tariff strategy didn't adequately consider the Chinese counterresponse.
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Charles DuBois is currently an advisor to Spring Valley Asset Management, with an MBA in Finance from New York University. He joins Murphy to discuss a seemingly obscure but nonetheless important concept, for investors who want to understand the connection between macroeconomic theories and accounting tautologies.
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Bob breaks down the arguments for and against the so-called Big Beautiful Bill. Proponents like Stephen Miller are correct when they claim it contains record spending and tax cuts, while opponents like Thomas Massie and Elon Musk are right when they say it doesn't do nearly enough. Either way, Bob provides actual numbers for viewers to make an informed decision.
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Economist George Selgin has a new book, False Dawn, from the University of Chicago Press, explaining the latest research on how the New Deal did—and didn't—promote US recovery from the Great Depression. But first, he and Bob discuss George's arguments with the HODLers on whether Bitcoin is a store of value or medium of exchange.
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Bob explains what happened with the recent Moody's downgrade of US Treasury bonds, summarizes the precarious US fiscal position, and then critiques the argument that Uncle Sam can't possibly default.
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Cade is the Head of Content at @WOLF_Financial, and Co Owner & Host of @WOLF_Crypto_X the Crypto Division. WOLF is a social media marketing firm primarily on X, and hosts the largest financial Spaces in the world. Cade discusses WOLF's business model and the future of digital assets, ranging from Bitcoin to NFTs to tokenized life insurance.
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Tom Pyle is president of the Institute for Energy Research (where Murphy was Senior Economist for 13 years). He joins Bob for a fast-paced discussion on Trump's energy policies, why major players in the tech sector have dropped their messaging on climate change, and what to expect in the global economy.
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Jay Rogers is Chief Revenue Officer and Steve Baillargeon is VP of Support Services at infineo. They join Bob to explain the LifeNotes Trust solution for institutional owners of split-dollar life insurance policies taken out on key executives. With pooled assets approaching $500 million in its first fund, the LifeNotes program provides more certainty and safety for both employer and employee than the original split-dollar plan.
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Oren Cass is one of the leading right-of-center scholars challenging free trade orthodoxy, specifically as it relates to US manufacturing. Bob asks clarifies questions to tease out Oren's views under various hypothetical scenarios.
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Murphy analyzes a popular video describing proposals to use the Treasury's gold stock to boost the government's finances.
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Sophisticated critics of free trade argue that David Ricardo's demonstration of "comparative advantage" had valid assumptions in the early 1800s, but those no longer hold in our age of labor and capital mobility. Murphy demonstrates that this critique doesn't hold up; the US still benefits from specialization and trade.
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Murphy samples from two recent debates on Trump's tariffs to explain why the protectionists are wrong in their view of international trade. Specifically, Murpy rebuts claims made by Abraham Lincoln (quoted by Spencer Morrison in a recent ZeroHedge debate) and Breitbart's John Carney (in a recent debate on the Tom Woods Show).
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Murphy first dissects the dubious constitutional and economic justifications for Trump's new tariff regime. Then he explains why the US decision to leave the gold standard has more to do with trade deficits than foreign barriers. Finally, he critiques the "Triffin paradox" defense of US trade deficits.
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Bob dissects a recent appearance of former Trump trade representative Robert Lighthizer on the Tucker Carlson show. While agreeing with the description of US economic problems, Bob disagrees with Lighthizer's blame on foreign governments, but instead says the problem is Made in the USA.
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Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0IUh8kNSqY - https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-03/59711-Long-Term-Outlook-2024.pdf
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In light of President Trump's recent Executive Order abolishing (though it has no teeth) the Department of Education, Bob presents statistics for 3 separate federal initiatives—namely the Clean Air Act/EPA, the so-called War on Poverty, and the Department of Education—to show that they should not be given credit for improving US life in their respective areas.
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Having just been interviewed for a documentary on the topic, Bob gives some of the details on the trial of Ross Ulbricht. Even if one endorses the Drug War, there were many absurdities in Ulbricht's trial that helps to justify President Trump's decision to pardon him as one of his first acts in office.
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Bob goes solo to explain why the libertarian objections to a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve are overblown. He then comments on the recent $1.4bn ETH heist, and explains how private organizations could help organize boycotts of stolen coins without State-sponsored regulations.
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Bob elaborates and defends Elon Musk's recent claims that (1) Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time and (2) government spending distorts GDP calculations.
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Related: - https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1895655463255248904 - https://infineo.ai/77
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Bob addressees the recent tweets from Elon Musk, indicating that there are millions of people who have been long dead receiving Social Security. Although Bob agrees with the critics that Musk was misleading with his tweets, there is nonetheless extensive fraud associate with the poorly maintained SS database.
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Related: https://x.com/JustinWolfers/status/1890836472174924143 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891350795452654076 https://oig-files.ssa.gov/audits/full/A-06-14-34030_0.pdf https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TR/2024/tr2024.pdf
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Jack Farley is host of the podcast "Monetary Matters," and was recently the moderator of Bob's debate on ZeroHedge against Nathan Tankus. Farley sticks up for the MMT camp and forces Bob to drill down to the essential differences between the Austrians and MMTers.
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzQ3vyYZU4
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF1JIT9kcpw - https://www.youtube.com/@Monetary-Matters - https://mises.org/podcasts/human-action-podcast/murphy-and-newman-do-postgame-analysis-zerohedge-mmt-debate
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Alex Tabarrok is an economics professor at George Mason University and (with Tyler Cowen) co-host of a popular podcast. He and Tyler recently discussed the history and economics of life insurance, and in addition Alex has written extensively on blockchain finance. He was thus an obvious guest for Bob to interview.
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z24Z0eo9IEI
Related: - https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/02/the-licensing-racket.html - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsbvHcX_Ilk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpBpGQ0XTI - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10134440
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Brian Domitrovic is the Richard S. Strong Scholar at the Laffer Center, who holds a PhD in history from Harvard. He joins Bob to discuss his recent articles explaining why the economics profession is so opposed to tariffs but not income taxes. Why are there "free traders" but not "free laborers"?
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Related: - https://lawliberty.org/forum/why-economists-loathe-tariffs/ - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/free-money-brian-domitrovic/1146872807
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On the heels of his recent ZeroHedge debate against MMTer Nathan Tankus, Bob elaborates on one key issue: Does it help the private sector if the government issues more "safe assets" to bolster private balance sheets?
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Tyler Watts is a professor of economics at Ferris State University. In an analysis for the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, he proposes a plan for allowing citizens to opt out of Social Security in a way that helps the program's finances.
Related: - https://www.pageturnpro.com/Indiana-Policy-Review-Foundation/112062-Winter-2025/sdefault.html#page/6 - https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2017/Murphysocialsecurity.html
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Bob explains that the yield curve has gone back to a "normal" upward sloping configuration, with 10-year Treasuries yielding more than the 3-month T-Bill. Bob reviews the historical pattern and the theory behind it, and also provides an estimate of when the next recession will hit.
Related: - https://mises.org/understanding-money-mechanics/inverted-yield-curve-and-recession - https://mises.org/podcasts/human-action-podcast/why-government-relief-spending-only-makes-recession-worse
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Bob referees the recent debate among Trump supporters over the H-1B program, especially the remarks from Vivek Ramaswamy on American culture. Despite its official purpose, the H-1B program does in practice allow for pay below the domestic salary for a given occupation, but that by itself doesn't mean it hurts Americans.
Related: - https://x.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1872312139945234507 - https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873175206073626660 - https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels - https://modernagejournal.com/whats-at-stake-in-the-h-1b-visa-war/247164
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Bob responds to critics of his earlier episode on Michael Saylor's arguments for a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.
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Bob reviews the classical gold standard era, including the demonetization of silver, to evaluate Michael Saylor's proposal for the US government to swap its gold reserves for Bitcoin. Bob agrees with George Selgin that the USD dollar doesn't need reserve assets because it's the global reserve currency, but Bob thinks that status will be forfeited over time, making BTC a wise purchase for the feds.
Related: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq_sYGCrl_I - https://substack.com/home/post/p-152252942 - https://mises.org/library/book/understanding-money-mechanics
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Evis Zenios is the new Interim CEO of DaffiOne. He joins Bob to discuss the importance of self-custody of crypto coins--and the role that the DaffiWallet plays here--as well as other topics, such as NFT solutions eliminating fraud (double sales) for event tickets.
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Bob first reconciles two apparently contradictory positions he staked out in previous episodes (regarding the impact of slavery on the rest of society). Then he addresses the question of which party--American consumers or foreign exporters--will bear the brunt of Trump's proposed tariffs.
Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-dI_uk0ro
Related: - https://infineo.ai/64 - https://infineo.ai/61 - https://www.bobmurphyshow.com/episodes/ep-271-the-economics-of-reparations-and-the-danger-of-ai
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Peter Jacobsen is Assistant Professor of Economics at Ottawa University in Kansas. He joins Bob to discuss a major study of Universal Basic Income (UBI) that found recipients of a cash handout devoted more time to leisure, rather than finding a better career or child care. The results throw cold water on the promises made by typical UBI proponents.
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Related: https://fee.org/articles/the-largest-study-ever-on-ubi-was-just-conducted-the-results-are-disappointing-for-advocates
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Bob begins a new mini-series in which he fields questions concerning international trade and tariffs. This episode deals with the question of foreign coerced labor keeping imports to the US artificially cheap.
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Related: - https://content.infineo.ai/articles/the-beauty-and-importance-of-comparative-advantage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tlCx9C88yE
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Gene Callahan joins Bob to discuss his review of Musa al-Gharbi's new book, We Have Never Been Woke. Following Gharbi, Gene argues that the people in American society most concerned with "white privilege" are themselves quite privileged and do not actually care about the plight of the disadvantaged.
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Related: https://kirkcenter.org/reviews/the-fourth-awokening-and-its-discontents
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Bob goes through a recent conversation between "Destiny" and Tom Wheelwright on tax policy, in order to debunk the view (among Destiny's fans) that the streamer is a formidable debater.
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Full debate between "Destiny" and Tom Wheelwright: https://www.youtube.com/live/Fgt1k-PpEbE
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In response to a viewer question, Bob critiques a recent interaction between the two Trump supporters and a libertarian college student asking about tariffs.
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Murphy provides a back-of-the-envelope calculation giving a ceiling on what Bitcoin's market cap can be when it reaches global adoption, and then computes a maximum annualized return through the year 2050.
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Christian Hubbs has a PhD in machine learning from Carnegie Mellon, and is the CTO of infineo. He rejoins Bob to explain why the buzz over imminent super AI may be misplaced.
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Previous InFi episode with Christian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_BeiRBKOUY
Christian discusses super AI further: https://open.spotify.com/episode/52Wd2DJ7HQV7ecezMOFlUI
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Rachel Medlin works in financial services as an economist and risk professional. Her conventional schooling studied mainstream models, but once on the job she discovered the Austrian School. She talks with Bob about her discovery and how the Austrian approach gives her an edge when forecasting inflation and the business cycle.
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Murphy sketches the strengths and weaknesses of the various explanations of the business cycle, put forth by the classical economists, the Keynesians, the Real Business Cycle theorists, the Post-Keynesians, and the Austrians.
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Bob shows the flaw in progressive criticisms of Milei's inflation record, pointing out that annual figures making the rounds on social media are unfairly pinning the surge in late 2023 consumer price inflation on Milei (who wasn't sworn in until December 2023). Bob also talks about Milei's success in deregulating rental properties.
Related Links: - https://x.com/IsabellaMWeber/status/1839850634134036535 - https://milei.ufm.edu/en/currency-monitor - https://reason.com/2024/09/26/rents-fall-and-listings-increase-after-javier-milei-ends-rent-control-in-argentina
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Bob shows that both the Sahm Indicator and the inverted yield curve are flashing an impending recession. He also shows how the recent Fed rate cut impacted Treasury yields.
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Robert Murphy summarizes the top 9 events or trends that influenced the economics discipline over the last 35 years, including the fall of the Soviet Union, the release of the Bitcoin white paper, and the rediscovery of banking in business cycle theories.
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George Gammon, host of the Rebel Capitalist podcast, recently put out a video criticizing Bob's infineo article on foreign demand and the strength of the USD. Bob responds, arguing that George made a mistake at a key point in his argument.
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Dr. Judy Shelton has had a distinguished career providing research and policy guidance on monetary issues. She joins Bob to discuss her forthcoming book from the Independent Institute, Good as Gold: How to Unleash the Power of Sound Money.
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Kamala Harris has proposed an inflation "solution" that has a history of crashing not only the financial markets, but also the economies of the countries where this policy is implemented.
That policy is called "price controls," and in today's episode, Dr. Robert Murphy explains why they're a terrible idea, and what they could mean for you as an investor.
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Sasha Hodder is a Florida-based attorney specializing in Bitcoin and other blockchain-related regulations. She joins Bob to discuss several recent developments that should give optimism to those operating in this space.
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Bob goes solo to give an update on his recession call in light of the recent financial turmoil. He also discusses Senator Cynthia Lummis' proposal to build a Bitcoin strategic reserve.
Bob's April economic update: https://www.infineo.ai/articles/economic-outlook-for-the-us
Bob's recent Bitcoin reserve post: https://www.infineo.ai/articles/should-the-us-government-accumulate-a-bitcoin-reserve
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Mark Fidelman is a founder of SmartBlocks.Agency, a leading tokenization agency specializing in real-world asset tokenization for assets above $5 million. He starts from first principles and explains the rationale for putting conventional assets such as real estate on the blockchain.
Mark's Links: ● Bitcoinist: http://bitcoinist.com/author/markfidelman ● Instagram & Twitter: @markfidelman ● LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/fidelman ● YouTube: www.youtube.com/fanaticsmedia
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Bob goes solo to first announce infineo's recently launched Policy Ledger. Then he explains what the "cash value" is in permanent life insurance, and explores why it is a unique feature among insurance products.
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Yael Tamar is CEO and co-founder of DIBS Capital, a platform that aims to make asset investing more accessible and transparent. She a regional ch-chair of FIBREE, a leading organization for those using blockchain for real estate.
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Glenn Jacobs was a professional wrestler who in 2021 was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. In 2018 he also became the Mayor of Knox County, TN. He joins Bob to discuss his personal libertarianism with the duty to serve his constituents, as well as the broader dangers to liberty Americans now face.
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Liya Palagashvili is a senior research fellow and director of the Labor Policy Project at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. She joins Bob to discuss her book chapter on dynamic pricing.
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Mark Koyama is Associate Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He is the author of Persecution and Toleration: The Long Road to Religious Freedom with Noel Johnson and How the World Became Rich with Jared Rubin. He joins Bob to discuss his recent post on the economics of the US strategic bombing campaign in WW2.
Relevant Links: https://www.markkoyama.com/p/masters-of-the-air https://economics.gmu.edu/people/mkoyama2
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Matthew DiPaola is Clinical Associate Professor of Orthopaedics and Sports Medicine at the University of Buffalo's Jacobs School of Medicine. He joins Bob to discuss various topics related to teaching and practicing medicine, as well as his connection to Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen.
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Dr. Michael Dooley is the Chief Economist at Figure, and has more than 20 years experience at the Federal Reserve and International Monetary Fund. With co-author Mike Cagney, Dr. Dooley recently wrote a post arguing that the US was not headed into a recession, and that therefore the Fed was not likely to cut rates. Dooley makes his case to Bob, including why Dooley thinks the inverted yield curve doesn't signal a coming crash.
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EJ Antoni is an economist with the Heritage Foundation. He joins Bob to explain different metrics that show the US labor market is not as buoyant as the unemployment rate suggests.
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Bob responds to popular attacks on Whole Life Insurance policies and the Infinite Banking Concept from Dave Ramsey and others.
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Naomi Brockwell spent years as a producer for the 19-time Emmy winning journalist, John Stossel. She now runs NBTV, a platform with hundreds of thousands of subscribers, that teaches the tools for personal and financial privacy. She joins Bob to discuss a recent video in which she gave the sad truth about bank handling of private data.
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In reaction to a viral clip taken from the new MMT documentary, Bob goes solo to explain the rationale for government debt even in a fiat currency regime.
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Perianne Boring is the founder and CEO of The Digital Chamber, a leading trade association that represents blockchain technology. She joins Bob to discuss the latest regulatory challenges and her hope for the future.
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Jeff Briggs is the CFO of infineo, but even before joining the team he led an adventurous life, including his time in a physics PhD program, working for NASA, and winning a decent chunk of change on a popular TV game show.
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Lotta Moberg has a PhD in economics from George Mason University, and worked for 7 years on William Blair's Dynamic Allocation Strategies team. She joins Bob to discuss her adventures, including military stints in Kosovo. Among other roles, she currently hosts a new video series for the CFA Institute covering topics such as alternative credit.
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Bobby Samuelson is an Editor of The Life Product Review, and president of Life Innovators. He joins Bob to discuss his December 2023 article for TLPR, which analyzed his relative's Whole Life policy issued in 1988, for which Bobby had access to all of the annual statements. It's a rare case study in which we can compare long-term illustrations against actual performance.
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It has become popular among economists and policy wonks to dismiss the notion of banks as credit intermediaries as obsolete. After all, the practice of "fractional reserve banking" means that banks can effectively "create money out of thin air" when they make a new loan. Economist George Selgin discusses his new working paper that defends the traditional view.
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On March 26 and 27, 2024 Bob gave a series of lectures for the Free Enterprise Society student group at Oklahoma State University. This lecture was for an entrepreneurship class, which explained how modern technology (smart phones, blockchain, and AI) is making it easier to implement private-sector solutions for various problems that have historically been handled by the government.
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Infineo's Chief Technology Officer, Zuhayr Rashid, joins Bob to discuss the recent, sometimes humorous snags befalling BlackRock as it launches a $100 million fund on a public blockchain. The episode underscores the desirability of blockchains (such as Provenance) that are dedicated to the financial sector.
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Josh Maddox is Head of Developer Ecosystem at Provenance Blockchain Foundation. He talks with Bob about the rationale for real-world asset tokenization, and how blockchain finance can help the world's poorest communities.
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David R. Henderson is an Emeritus Professor of Economics at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California, a Research Fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He joins Bob to explain why a UBI program, in order to work, would be fantastically expensive.
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Clifton Duncan holds an MFA from New York University's elite Graduate Acting Program. He has starred on numerous television and Broadway shows, including "The Play That Goes Wrong." He joins Bob to discuss his background and how the Covid regime ended his conventional acting career. But these setbacks haven't stopped Clifton from diving into his new project, a one-man show centered on economist Thomas Sowell.
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Ááron Sepúlveda-Cué is an economist based in Texas, with a position at the Libertarian Christian Institute among other affiliations. He joins Bob to discuss the background and wild success of Argentina's new president, Javier Milei.
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Bob walks through a numerical example to illustrate how increased mortality risk can reduce the "actuarially fair" growth rate in the cash surrender value of a Whole Life policy, even though (by construction in the example) the total expected return, including the possibility of a death benefit payout, is constant throughout the policy. The exercise will help the viewer understand the mechanics of real-world policies.
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Bob Ejodame is VP of Capital Markets at INX. He explains INX's progress in creating a single platform for merging cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin with tokenized real-world assets, along with providing new companies with a way to raise capital on the blockchain.
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Cole Snell is Founder and CEO of infineo. Bob asks questions to probe Cole's origin story, to learn not only tips on business, but also how to nourish body and soul.
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Michael Fraser is Co-Founder of Action / Insight, an AI consulting firm based in Toronto. He joins Bob to share his captivating vision of how large language models will change the world.
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Herwig Konings is founder and CEO of Security Token Advisors and Security Token Group. He explains this burgeoning industry that he helped pioneer, offering insights for both the novice and the expert.
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Jamie Finn is Co-Founder and President of Securitize, Inc., a leading platform for issuing digital securities. He gets into the weeds on digital assets with Bob, but also addresses beginner questions such as the difference between proof of work and proof of stake.
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Tom Davidson is a senior research analyst at Open Philanthropy specializing in AI risk. With degrees in both physics and philosophy, he is equipped to understand how these systems work but also to appreciate the impact on humanity. He has a fast-paced discussion with Bob on the progress being made in AI and what the future holds.
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Mitch DiRaimondo is CEO and Founder of SteelWave Digital, which is the tokenization arm of the real estate management firm SteelWave (founded by his father). He is joined by SteelWave Managing Director Aaron Dwinell. They discuss the hopes and hurdles in this emerging new market.
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Infineo's legal counsel Jonathan Kleiman specializes in cryptocurrency regulation. He shares his views on the coming boom in blockchain-related business innovation.
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Dominic Frisby is a UK-based comedian who has also written popular books on Bitcoin and taxation. He discusses a wide range of topics, including his research indicating that China has far more gold reserves than even the US.
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In an effort to showcase the remarkable abilities of ChatGPT-4, Bob and the infineo team reenact a "conversation" Bob had with the large language model.
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Robert Bryce is a journalist, author, and film producer who has been writing about energy policy for more than 30 years. He joins Bob to discuss his latest projects, with a focus on the developing world's need for cheap, reliable power.
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Samson Mow is CEO of JAN3, a Bitcoin technology company focused on accelerating hyperbitcoinization, and is best known for his work with El Salvador’s Bitcoin initiatives, and his efforts in nation-state Bitcoin adoption around the world. Samson joins Bob to discuss the prospects for global Bitcoin adoption and related issues.
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JP Richardson is co-founder and CEO of Exodus, which provides "wallets" for users to safely and easily manage their crypto holdings. Among other topics, he explains how Exodus raised $75 million in a public offering using blockchain technology.
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Lyn Alden is a financial researcher who has a large following among those skeptical of the establishment orthodoxy. She joins Bob to discuss her new book, Broken Money, which explains the history of money and why government-issued fiat money is not suitable for the job.
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Christian Hubbs has a PhD in machine learning from Carnegie Mellon. He joins Bob to analyze Mark Spitznagel's approach to risk management. Then the conversation turns to recent innovations in AI, and how businesses can use it properly to boost profits.
Christian Hubbs' three posts discussing elements of Mark Spitznagel's book Safe Haven: https://raposa.trade/blog/how-to-think-about-cost-effective-risk-reduction-to-protect-your-portfolio/ https://raposa.trade/blog/how-to-gamble-with-demons-and-make-money-doing-it/ https://raposa.trade/blog/how-to-find-your-own-safe-haven-investing-strategy/ Watch the video version of this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_BeiRBKOUY
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Dean Emeritus of Columbia Law School David Schizer explains the potentially enormous ramifications of a pending Supreme Court case concerning the taxation of unrealized income. This issue is of particular relevance to Infineo as borrowing against an asset is a primary tool in using permanent life insurance for cash management.
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Jason Raznick is Founder and CEO of Benzinga, which provides in-depth financial news to investors around the world. He talks with Bob about the evolving financial landscape, with a focus on digital assets, including the conference Benzinga will be hosting in NYC.
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Bob uses Dave Ramsey as a springboard to go through the proper apples-to-apples comparison of Whole Life insurance versus a term-policy-with-side-fund strategy. There are pros and cons of each.
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Bob's two-part Medium series explaining the WL and BTID strategies in more detail:
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Jeff Deist is general counsel at Monetary Metals. He explains his firm's new approach to the age-old practice of investing in gold for financial returns and hedging. He also shares his general outlook on central banks and the state of the global economy.
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Bob walks through a recent clip from the Dave Ramsey show where "Jim from Nashville" called in to tout his Whole Life policy he'd bought for his son. Ramsey makes misleading or downright false claims in his belligerent handling of the call, which Bob sets straight.
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Carol Roth is a financial consultant with numerous TV appearances and a two-time NYT bestselling author. She talks with Bob about her latest book, You Will Own Nothing, outlining the dangers to prosperity coming from the World Economic Forum. They also discuss Carol's system FutureFile, which helps individuals arrange their affairs to ease the burden when they become incapacitated or pass.
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Chris Kirkpatrick is the founder of Life180. He talks with Bob to clarify the case for using Whole Life insurance for what he calls "cashflow hacking," and why Universal Life is not ideal. They start the conversation about Chris' history in professional poker.
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Perry Metzger has decades of research and work experience in computer technology. He joins Bob to discuss the tremendous benefits of the coming AI revolution, and explains why proposals for government regulation or outright prohibition are misguided.
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Anthony Moro is the CEO of the Provenance Blockchain Foundation. He joins Bob to discuss the current state of blockchain-based finance, including some exciting projects Provenance is undertaking. Anthony also discusses the regulatory framework and his vision for the future.
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Scott Allen is Professor of Leadership and Social Responsibility at John Carroll University, as well as the author of Phronesis, a podcast focusing on leadership skills. He explains his approach to teaching leadership to both college students and entrepreneurs.
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Adi Jaffe has a PhD in Psychology and is the CEO of IGNTD, a company specializing in novel treatments for addiction and mental health. He tells Bob his fascinating journey from being a convicted drug dealer to running a successful addiction treatment program.
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Kelcey Lehrich is co-founder and CEO of 365 Holdings, a holding company based in Akron, Ohio. Kelcey explains the appeal of owning many businesses simultaneously, and shares tips on hiring, firing, and vertically integrating an operation.
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John Knific is a serial entrepreneur who co-founded Wisr.io, a venture-backed SaaS company that was acquired by Education Advisory Board (EAB) in 2021. Knific currently serves as Managing Director of Product for EAB where he oversees solutions serving 2,500 universities. He joins Bob to discuss his early failures and later successes as a business founder, with real-world lessons for the listener.
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Silas Barta was an early adopter of Bitcoin, having built a GPU mining rig in 2011. He spent six years in San Francisco working as a software engineer at tech startups and now lives in Austin, TX. He joins Bob to discuss their co-authored booklet, Understanding Bitcoin, to provide listeners with a crash course in the actual mechanics of Bitcoin.
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David Andolfatto received his PhD in economics from the University of Western Ontario, London, Canada. In 2009 he began working for the St. Louis Federal Reserve, where he eventually became Senior Vice President. He is now chair of the Econ Department at the University of Miami Patti. He discusses his time at the Fed with Bob, and offers views on the US economy and dollar.
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George Mason University Professor Lawrence White joins Bob to discuss his new book, Better Money: Gold, Fiat, or Bitcoin?
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Through a cosmic chain of coincidences, Cole's Miami landlord turns out to be involved in the Medellin investment community. Antonia Mila Zen joins the podcast to talk of her real estate escapades and bringing a talented artist, Dmytro Baryshev, out of Ukraine to establish him in a gallery in Colombia.
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Tony Garcia is a cybersecurity consultant with years of experience working for Fortune 500 companies as well as the federal government. He talks with Bob and Cole about the threats facing businesses and what steps they can take, including dealing with their own employees.
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Jeff Snider is an expert on the eurodollar system, and argues that the popular fears over "loose Fed policy" and "hyperinflation" are misguided. He agrees that the banking system and broader economy are in a mess, but says the BRICS nations won't replace the dollar anytime soon.
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Zuhayr Rashid is CTO at infineo. He joins Bob and Cole to discuss his own use of ChatGPT and how AI will revolutionize the financial world and broader economy. In addition to explaining the details of how it works, Zuhayr gives specific advice for business owners on staying ahead of this coming upheaval.
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Mark Thornton is a Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute who successfully predicted many features of the housing crash of the mid-2000s. He joins Bob and Cole to discuss the economy's current outlook, with a focus on commercial real estate.
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Bob and Cole are joined by fellow Infineo teammate Alec Beckman to discuss their experience at the Rebel Capitalist Live event in Orlando, where Bob was one of the speakers. The event catered to investors interested in preserving their wealth and liberty in today's difficult environment.
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Dr. Michael Barbera is Chief Behavioral Officer at Clicksuasion Labs, which specializes in consumer psychology to help business clients. He has a freewheeling discussion with Bob and Cole on everything ranging from landscaping subscription models to considerations in bathroom gender assignment.
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Dr. Keith Smith is a board-certified anesthesiologist and the founder of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma. He explains why hospital bills are so outrageous, the insidious role of insurance companies, and how his cash-only practice can save patients and employers tens of thousands of dollars for typical procedures.
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Mike Lingle originally appeared back in episode 7 while SVB collapsed in real-time during the conversation. Bob and Cole bring Mike back to discuss the fallout in the banking sector, especially on startups. They also discuss the differences, both conceptually and in terms of regulation, between cryptocurrencies and security tokens. Near the end, Mike asks about Infineo's operations.
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Stephan Livera hosts one of the world's leading Bitcoin podcasts and is the Head of Education at Swan Bitcoin, a firm that advises clients on how to accumulate Bitcoin savings. He joins Bob and Cole to discuss the advantages and pitfalls of Bitcoin to business owners who are still not sold on the cryptocurrency.
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Peter St. Onge is an economist with the Mises Institute and Heritage Foundation. He joins Bob and Cole to discuss the recent banking turmoil, and what business owners should do to protect themselves. Peter also recommends a simple fix to provide 100% reserve accounts to customers.
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George Gammon, host of the popular Rebel Capitalist podcast, makes the case to Bob and Cole that the recent bailouts of the US banks might be the first step into getting Americans using "FedCoin," which is simply holding dollar liabilities with the central bank.
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Josh Hendrickson is the economics chair at Ole Miss, who is an expert in monetary theory, Bitcoin, and banking history. Bob and Cole ask him to explain what happened with Silicon Valley Bank, the problems with the Fed's response, better solutions to fix banking, and what business owners can do in the meantime to protect themselves.
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Chris Naugle has led an interesting life, going from pro-snowboarder to an internet money mogul. Bob and Cole ask Chris about his time in the trenches of Wall Street and how he now explains the benefits of Infinite Banking to regular households.
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Mike Lingle is an expert in security tokens and using NFTs and other innovative strategies for business funding. This made him the perfect guest to have while the SVB collapse was happening in real-time, as he offered his perspective on the situation.
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Caitlin Long of Custodia Bank has been a vocal champion of sound money in the digital assets arena. Bob and Cole learn from her expertise in the operation of a 100% reserve bank, her knowledge of Austrian economics, and her views on regulatory developments. They also discuss Caitlin's now-famous exchange with FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried regarding leverage.
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Bob and Cole don't need a guest to talk about their backgrounds in academic economics and entrepreneurship. Bob explains why he left academia and why Austrian economics is the most suitable for the businessperson to study. Cole explains the importance of failure in business, a lesson he learned the hard way.
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Bob and Cole have a conversation with John Gagnon, one of the principals behind the website BoliColi.com. John explains the specifics of using Whole Life insurance to fund employee benefits packages.
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Lowell Ness is a partner with Perkins Coie who specializes in securities law and corporate governance. He has taught a course on securities regulation at Santa Clara. He talks with Cole and Bob about the issues surrounding the corporate use of digital assets.
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Business owners know that attracting and retaining highly skilled professionals are crucial. Rick Scruggs and John Ocwieja discuss strategies for 2023, including the use of equity and cash value life insurance.
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Cole and Bob talk to Michael Kong on how he got into the blockchain space and became CEO of Fantom. They also discuss his interest in Austrian economics, Whole Life insurance, and what business leaders need to watch for in 2023.
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Welcome to the Founders Forum, a podcast championing a free economy, sound assets, and blockchain solutions. Each week, your hosts, entrepreneur Cole Snell and economist Bob Murphy, interview business pioneers and free thinkers to help you develop into the architect of your future.