From the Roundabout: Recent Episodes

From the Roundabout

From the Roundabout is a podcast program about identity, personal journeys, intersectionality, dogs, dating, and more. Co-hosts Dee and Zhou, along with their guests, share about paths that led to who they are today. What’s with the title, you ask? We like to think about a person’s identity as a roundabout: while it may look like a little island, it’s connected to many roads and ultimately, other roundabouts. The stories that happen on these roads are what shape us. At the end of each episode, we sum up with some “road signs” relevant to the personal journeys discussed for others to reflect on

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Cara Meyer is the founder and sports performance consultant at Conscious Teams. She's also a big builder and dreamer. In this joy-filled and thoughtful conversation, Cara shares her "whys" behind her sports performance consulting career, the Motivation SPACE Assessment (Significance, Predictability, Autonomy, Connection, Expansion), and building and dreaming big. At the end of the interview, Cara shares invaluable advice for young people about "how to dream".

Follow and work with Cara:

Website: https://carameyer.com/

Substack: https://substack.com/@consciousteams?r=1v2dd&utm_medium=ios

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carameyer-od-consultant/

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Nicole Shir is a two-time TEDx Talks Speaker, a prolific author, and the founder and lead consultant at The Needs Languages. In this thought-provoking conversation, Nicole talks about her accepting disability and thriving with it, balancing the We and the Me, making connections with the understanding of love and belonging languages, and going through grief properly.

Follow and work with Nicole Shir:

https://www.theneedslanguages.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-shir-73262756/

Nicole's TEDx Talks:

Connect with someone before you meet them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpPCxbKp4KA

An Epidemic Of Loneliness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_KCrCOjhK8

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Sarah Williams is the founder and principal creative at Word Of Mouth Creative. She is also the producer and host of podcast, Creatives Processing. Sarah is also the producer of Comedy 101, a movie series that goes deep into comedy. In this episode, Sarah and Zhou start and end the conversation with a hilarious "poop talk", which leads to an expansive discussion on humanity, the power of art and design, Sarah's TriCity life (OAK-NYC-PDX), Word of Mouth, Community, and Abundance.

Follow and work with Sarah Williams:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahmulliganwilliams/

https://www.wordofmouthcreative.co/

https://www.wordofmouthcreative.co/creatives-processing

https://hollywoodtheatre.org/series/comedy-101/

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Cinthia Manuel is the founder and principal practitioner at Autentica Consulting, a leadership service that helps teams grow and transform. In this episode, Cinthia and Zhou talk about culture and heritage, mentorship, authenticity, privilege, and hope.

Follow and work with Cinthia:

Website: www. autenticaconsulting.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cinthiamanuel/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/autenticaconsulting/

Watch Cinthia's TEDx Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/cinthia_manuel_why_is_mentoring_backwards

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Connie Mansfield is the founder and maker of PDX Fresh Start, a Portland-based self-care product company that caters children and children at heart :) In this episode, Connie talks about her journey as an Asian American Entrepreneur, turning a passion into a business, making PDX Fresh Start accessible for all, the importance of community, and hope.

Find PDX Fresh Start online and in real life:

https://www.pdxfreshstart.com/shop

https://www.instagram.com/pdxfreshstart/ - you can find store and market information from PDX Fresh Start's Instagram account.

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Zhou announces the return of The Intersection, as well as introduces the new music used in the show, and its creator Kjell.

Musician: Kjell van Zoen. https://www.instagram.com/vanzoen/

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Solo Episode! In this short-ish monologue, Zhou Fang, the host and producer of The Intersection (presented by Intersectional Group), announces the summer break for the program in July and August (returning in September), the practice of the Abundance Mindset, Hope, and a look into the future.

Zhou shares some raw moments and emotions halfway through the monologue, talking about her own struggles and her intersectional practice of the abundance mindset and hope. Zhou looks into the future and invites folks to return in the fall.

Listen to all 30 episodes from 2025 so far.

Zhou can be found on www.intersectional.group,

@zhoufangig and @intersectionalliving on Instagram,

and https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhoufang35/ on linkedin.

Zhou's email is zhou@intersectional.group for more engagements.

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Ashlan Glasizer-Anderson is the founder and CEO of AshbeanPDX Marketing, a fractional marketing firm that helps mission-driven businesses and non-profits with their marketing needs. Ashlan is also the co-host and producer of Take the Leap Podcast. In this episode, Ashlan and Zhou talk about how marketing can be non sell-sy, the everything-is-urgent trend and how that is unnecessary, helping value-driven organizations, reading (book riot), and the abundance mindset.

Follow and work with Ashlan:

Website: https://www.ashbeanpdx.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ashbeanpdxmktg

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ashbeanpdxmktg

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ashbeanpdxmktg/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ashbeanpdxmktg

Book Riot:

https://bookriot.com/

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Sarah Patterson is the founder of CERASart and an Expressive Art Coach based out in California. She's been practicing expressive art for more than 15 years, helping organizations and individuals use art to express, explore, process, and heal. In this episode, Sarah talks about the difference between expressive art and traditional art therapy, how expressive art can be a tool for self reconciliation, fostering cultural humility, and using art to go deeper and heal.

Work with Sarah Patterson, in person or virtually:

https://cerasart.com/

sarah@cerasart.com

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Curtis Shirey is the CEO of Aspasia Wealth Management, a BIPOC-owned financial planning firm based in Portland, making financial management accessible for all. In this episode, Curtis talks about finance being a language (finance literacy), how growing up multicultural shaped his journey, why financial health is critical for our overall health, accessibility to finance and wealth, and system changes.

Correction: at 37 min 31 secs, Zhou says "100%", it should be "the 1% (one percent)".

Follow and work with Curtis Shirey:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtiscaineshirey/

https://www.aspasiawealth.com/

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Brian Aquart is a VP of Workforce and Community Education, a Presidential Leadership Scholar, and the Executive Producer and Host of Why I Left Podcast, a program for folks to share their resignation stories. In this episode, Brian and Zhou talk about lifting up emerging leaders in healthcare, coming together and seeing humanity, being a successful podcast host, and practicing the abundance mindset.

Follow and work with Brian:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianaquart/

https://whyileft.co/

https://www.youtube.com/@whyileft

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Kaylee Brunette is the Talent & Operation Specialist at a local recruiting agency in Portland, Oregon. In this episode, Kaylee talks about the power of exploring our own strengths, networking (both in person and linkedin) with consistency and authenticity, making and owning mistakes, taking care of ourselves, and relying on community.

Follow and work with Kaylee Brunette:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylee-brunette/

Follow Kaylee's company:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/mulberrytalentpartners/

disclaimer: no monetary value exchanged in this collaboration. all businesses and names mentioned are organic content.

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Jasmine Tran is the founder and lead practitioner at Essance Skincare, a Portland-based, internationally recognized brand that teaches folks how to properly take care of ourselves. In this episode, Jasmine talks about her journey as an entrepreneur who respects and works with nature, a teacher who guides people to treat our skin and our body appropriately, and a mentor who advocates for "just do it now".

Find Essance Skincare and work with Jasmine:

https://essanceskincare.com/pages/about

https://www.instagram.com/essanceskincare/

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Adriane Jones is a learning experience designer, the host of the career breaker podcast, and a distance runner. In this episode, Adriane shares her journey as a career breaker, a public speaker and podcast host, as well as a life-time runner and learner.

Follow and work with Adriane:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianejones/

https://www.adrianeejones.com/

https://sites.google.com/adrianeejones.com/the-career-breakers-show/home

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Melody is Zhou's first guest who uses a pseudonym, in order to protect their identity and safety. Melody is a Ph.D candidate, education researcher, and advocate for students from the immigrant community. In this episode, Melody talks about bringing more young immigrants into STEM, creating more access, using research to influence education policy, using privilege to open doors, the abundance mindset, and having the audacity to dream big!

We aren't providing links to Melody as we are trying to protect their identity and safety.

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Tay & Val are the co-founders of Modern Mind Labs, keynote speakers, and organizational wellness practitioners. In this episode, Tay & Val, and Zhou talk about the ownership of one's journey, owning the stage (literally and figuratively), feeling and healing, wellness, and safety.

Follow and work with Tay & Val:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/taynval/

https://www.modernmindlabs.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/taynval/recent-activity/videos/

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Andrea Goulet is the founder of Empathy in Tech, Lovelace Communications, and a seasoned keynote speaker. In this episode, Andrea and Zhou talk about Empathy as a technical skill (vs. a soft skill), empathetic communications, and the SCALE framework (systems, capacity, alignment, leadership, empathy).

Learn more about Andrea Goulet's work and work with her:

https://andreagoulet.com/

https://www.empathyintech.com/

https://lovelacecommunications.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreamgoulet/

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Dr. Shi Choong is a Ph.D in Analytical Chemistry, an accomplished researcher, and a seasoned event planner. In this episode, Dr. Choong talks about her education journey, including crossing the borders between Malaysia and Singapore every day, overcoming barriers at Purdue; her realization of event planning = happiness, joy, and empowerment; and the abundance mindset.

Follow and work with Dr. Shi Choong:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shichoong/

https://www.eventplannershi.com/

https://www.instagram.com/eventplannershi/?next=%2F

Join the Abundance Mindset event:

https://www.tickettomato.com/event/9389

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Danielle Dinkelman is the co-founder and CEO at ACW Coaching, a practice that helps business owners look after the wellbeing of each of their employees through individual health & wellness coaching programs. In this episode, Danielle and Zhou talk about Hustle culture vs. Wellness culture, setting and protecting boundaries, music and hobby, as well as the Abundance Mindset.

Connect and work with Danielle:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielledinkelman/

https://acwcoaching.com/

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Elizabeth Stock is the Executive Director at Oregon MESA, an organization that bring equity into STEAM. Elizabeth Stock is also a film producer who co-produced Where We Goin? The Power of Place, a docuseries about displacement, gentrification, and justice. In this episode, Elizabeth and Zhou talk about pursuing restorative justice, supporting underserved youth, being a white woman in leadership, and art as a way to advocate for justice.

Documentary: Where We Goin? https://www.instagram.com/wwgfilm/

Portland Panorama: https://www.portlandpanorama.org/film-guide

Oregon MESA: https://oregonmesa.org/

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Dawne Hanks is the founder and practitioner of Eliminate Girl Hate, a consulting practice that supports women in leadership. Dawne is a senior marketing director and public speaker. In this episode, Dawne and Zhou talk about women and money, from education to real-life practice, from financial independence to consumerism, as well as self-love and healing.

Follow and work with Dawne Hanks:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnehanks/

info@eliminategirlhate.com

Listen and subscribe to Dawne's podcast Wait. Hold Up. What...

https://open.spotify.com/show/4Ez9PFHlSOJzQUBunbERGO?si=02a740d4d6a0419d

Women and Tariffs:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/17/pink-tariff-tax-women-clothes

https://katiecouric.com/news/gender-tariff-gap-pink-tariffs/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erinspencer1/2025/04/02/how-trumps-new-tariffs-will-hurt-womens-wallets/

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The Devoted Real Estate Collective is formed by three seasoned women of color realtors: Tam Hixson, Debra Neal, and Desiree Moore. Combined, they have 55+ years of experience in real estate. In this episode, Tam, Debra, and Desiree share their experiences helping 1st time homebuyers (and others), working through racism, oppression, and internalized oppression as women of color working in real estate, as well as their practices of the Abundance MIndset.

Follow and work with the devoted real estate collective:

https://www.instagram.com/devoted_pdx_realtors/

www.linkedin.com/in/devotedpdxrealtors

Save the date May 10th for their ‘Savvy Homeowner Series’ at Windermere Office – 2045 NE MLK Jr. in Portland, Oregon.

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Jolma is the founder and food designer at Amza Superfoods, a food company that brings traditional Tibetan foods such as Tsamba to the Pacific Northwest with a modern twist by sourcing locally and sustainably. In this episode, Zhou learns about cultural heritage foods from Jolma, as well as her passion on education and sustainability.

Find Amza Superfoods and work with Jolma:

https://amzasuperfoods.com/pages/about-us

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Tom Sollitt is the founder of Asian American Town, the mastermind behind Legendary Makers Market, and the creator and operator of I Hope You Get Rich, a pitch series designed for Asian and Asian American Entrepreneurs. In this episode, Tom and Zhou talk about what it means to be Asian entrepreneurs, find and distribute resources, build community, and practice the abundance mindset.

Learn more about I hope you get rich here:

https://www.asianamericantown.com/pitch-competition

Get in touch with Tom:

tom@asianamericantown.com

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Sophia Xiao-fan Austrins is an architect, a community organizer, and facilitator. Sophia is also an autoimmune condition patient. The condition Sophia has is Sjogren's syndrome, an autoimmune condition that attacks one's muscles, nerves, and ability to process water. 90% of Sjogren's patients are women. In this tender, raw, ultimately hopeful conversation, Sophia shares her experience with a condition that will likely affect her for a long time, the state of women's health in the U.S., and how she stays hopeful.

Sjogren's Foundation: https://sjogrens.org/

Colloqate Design: https://colloqate.org/

Sophia's poem: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q7J2gOkmHsJEk3QdqKP2EqDQXysxD6DY/view

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Kathryn Latham is the founder and lead business consultant of Latham Business Solutions. In this episode, Kathryn talks about her entrepreneurship journey and why it is spiritual for her. Kathryn also shares her practice on "work as a tool", as well as her role in being a "bridge" for emerging leaders.

Kathryn and Zhou have been collaborators and friends for years. They worked together on Pay Transparency Reports that advocate for transparency in business practice.

Follow and work with Kathryn Latham:

https://www.workwithlatham.com/about

https://www.linkedin.com/in/workwithkl/

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Vashti Boyce (she/they) is the founder of Wild Iris Consulting, a leadership consulting practice that uses anti-racist, inclusive, and trauma-informed approaches in leadership development. In this episode, Zhou learns from Vashti about the connections between privilege, awareness, and behavior through an intersectionality lens. Zhou also learns more about trauma-informed leadership and prioritizing one's health.

Follow and work with Vashti Boyce:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vashtina/

https://www.wildirisconsultingllc.com/

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Tiffany Green is the founder of the Center for Somatic Leadership. In this episode, Zhou learns about somatic leadership from Tiffany through her self-exploration and healing journey, her practice of the mind-body connection in leadership, as well as her approach in parenting.

" people are going to the be the mirror to show you where you are not free. " - Tiffany Green

Follow and work with Tiffany:

https://www.centerforsomaticleadership.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanygreen4424/

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Marina Martinez-Bateman is the founder and CEO of New Coyote Consulting, an equity and human-centered practice. In this episode, Marina talks with Zhou about toxic productivity, specifically toxic productivity in progressive, purpose driven, and well-intend organizations; as well as their Anti-Capitalism and Decolonalize Management training.

Follow Marina and New Coyote Consulting and learn more about their cohorts:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marina-martinez-bateman/

https://newcoyote.com/

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Lestarya Tuadi Molloy is the founder and CEO of Fridie Outdoors, and a returning guest of The Intersection. In this episode, Lestarya talks with Zhou about building confidence in camping, the wonders of mother nature, intersectional living, and building community in nature. "To achieve more with less" is a short but powerful statement from our conversation.

Follow, download, and use Fridie Outdoors:

https://fridieoutdoors.com/about

https://www.instagram.com/fridieoutdoors/

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Yeruwelle returns! Yeruwelle de Rouen is a Restorative People Leader, the founder and CEO of Intersectional Innovations. In this enlightening conversation, Yeruwelle and Zhou talk about the Wellness Wheel, through the modern and indigenous perspectives, as well as an intersectionality lens.

Connect and work with Yeruwelle:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/yeruwellederouen/

https://www.intersectionalinnovations.com/about

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Dr. Jennifer Sarrett is the Founder of Disruptive Inclusion. She is a practitioner and advocate for Universal Design, a discipline that highlights accessibility, proactiveness and preventive-ness, and effectiveness. Zhou learns about Jen's practice of Universal Design and how it leads to a more inclusive and effective organization.

Connect and work with Jen Sarrett:

https://www.disruptiveinclusion.com/aboutus

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifersarrett/

https://www.instagram.com/disruptiveinclusion/

Email: jen@disruptiveinclusion.com

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Muffie Delgado Connelly is a sophisticated dancer, somatic practitioner, and gyrotonic instructor in Portland, Oregon. In this episode, Zhou learns from Muffie about Gyrotonic, the study of circles, somatic movements and how they heal us, reconnecting to our roots, and love.

Connect and work with Muffie:

https://muffiedelgadoconnelly.com/about

https://www.instagram.com/muffiedelgadoconnelly/

hello@MuffyDelgadoConnelly. com

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Rose Kaz is a serial entrepreneur who's committed to building equity in tech, demystifying tech, sharing resources, and building communities. In this episode, Rose discusses with Zhou about using technology as a tool, the gate-keeping of recourses (and how to change that!), building communities, and leadership.

Connect and work with Rose:

https://business4good.co/

word@rosekaz.com (email)

BOOST camp: https://business4good.co/services/business-coaching-and-technology-integration/q-1-boost-camp-demystify-ai-with-hi-150483346

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Mac Prichard is the founder and CEO of Mac's List, a well established regional job posting and HR advisory organization in Oregon and Washington. In this episode, Mac discusses with Zhou about good practices and advice for job seekers, hiring managers and employers, mentors and mentees.

"Be Clear." is the loud and clear message from Mac to everyone who's job seeking and hiring.

Connect with, learn from, and work with Mac:

  • Mac's List, www.macslist.org
  • Find Your Dream Job podcast, www.macslist.org/podcasts
  • Mac on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/macprichard/

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Happy New Year! In this special episode recorded on December 31, 2024, Astrid Kurniawan, a Portland professional who won her gender pay gap battle with a former employer, shares her full story and learning with us.

"This type of stuff (gender pay gap) is so systemic...   it is on purpose that we can only fight one person at a time." - Astrid Kurniawan

" This experience has transformed me and galvanized me to, um, think about how I can help other people that are facing similar situations." - Astrid Kurniawan

Connect with Astrid: https://www.linkedin.com/in/astridak/

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Rihana Mungin and Zhou Fang have been friends for years and they both learned how important intentional joy and living a life are in hard ways. In this end-of-year special episode, Rihana and Zhou talk about how practicing intentional joy and taking living seriously make their lives better. And how they support and love each other with the power of joy and enjoyment.

We believe that we can find hope in joy and community. If you or loved ones are struggling, please know that help is available. The National Suicide Prevention Line is 988.

Find and follow Rihana: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rihana-mungin/

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Nick Mendez is a human-centric  photographer and videographer in Portland, Oregon. Nick also exercises journalistic values in their creative work. In this episode, Zhou learns how joy, pleasure, and being present can do wonders to one's business.

Follow and work with Nick:

https://www.nickmendez.com/

https://www.instagram.com/nickmendez.photography/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmendezphotography/

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Mujidat Saaka is our first returning guest. She is a sophisticated Data Analyst and Entrepreneur. Mujidat returns to The Intersection to continue our conversation on community building, abundance, family, and "being home". In this episode, Mujidat shares her learning and growth in 2024, including buying a home in the Portland metro, building a community of abundance, and creating her home in the Pacific Northwest.

Connect with Mujidat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mujidat-saaka-5a4a401a9/

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Paul Brown is a senior leader in people and culture with an extensive background in tech. As a white, male presenting person, Paul spent years learning about the myth of meritocracy, white supremacy, capitalism, racism and other systemic oppressions. In this episode, Paul shares with Zhou about his journey of learning and unlearning, showing up as a real ally and coconspirator, and making real culture changes.

Follow Paul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-cinder/

Subscribe to Paul's podcast Connecting Awesome People: https://open.spotify.com/show/1wXZqwi0GekbP8BtWEvsaJ

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Tâm Hixson is a successful realtor helping 1st time homebuyers find their homes in Portland, Oregon. She's also an Operations Manager at Habitat for Humanity of Oregon. In this thoughtful, intimate conversation, Zhou learns about Tâm's journey from higher education to real estate, helping 1st time homebuyers start accumulating generational wealth, practicing the abundance mindset and meaningful excellence, as well as advising young Asian women who are interested in taking a different path from their ancestors.

Follow and work with Tâm Hixson:

https://www.instagram.com/tamhixson/

https://tamhixson.withwre.com/

https://www.areaa.org/portland

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Chone Poe is a serial entrepreneur from Myanmar, now pursuing her MBA at Portland State University. In this episode, Zhou learns about Chone's journey from Myanmar to Portland, being a fashion entrepreneur who wants to create a brand that's sustainable and inclusive, pursuing an MBA at PSU, and adjusting to a culture that's different from home.

Follow and connect with Chone:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chonepoe/

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Jeff Lynott is the District Manager supporting the Foster Area Businesses in Portland, Oregon. He's been involved in the neighborhood businesses for 15+ years, with the last 6+ years working full-time helping local businesses thrive. In this episode, Zhou learns from Jeff about Hyper-locality and what it means for neighborhood businesses, building lasting relationships, and collaborations.

Follow Jeff's work:

www.fosterarea.com

https://www.instagram.com/fosterareapdx/

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Professor Joanna Deshay is an educator at Arizona State University, the Executive Director at Diversity Leadership Alliance (Arizona), and the owner and designer at Black Russian Label. In this energizing, thoughtful, and fun conversation, Zhou learns from Joanna about the vital importance of Intentionality and Time Management when one has 3 jobs and is a parent, the meaning of DEI in fashion, and building and serving in community.

Find and follow Professor Joanna Deshay:

https://www.diversityleadershipalliance.org/about-us/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanna-deshay-b4450759/

https://www.blackrussianlabel.com/about-us

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Lana Zumbrunn is a series entrepreneur and software developer. She's an expert and advocate for "a new way of working" and "bringing more women and girls into tech". She is passionate and deeply involved in the AI industry. In this episode, Zhou learns about Lana's approach to working remotely, her taking a deep dive in AI: understand it, get involved in the industry, and make it better. This conversation gives Zhou a fresh perspective on an industry that's seen as controversial and full of uncertainty.

Follow and connect with Lana:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanazumbrunn/

*Disclaimer: no monetary values exchanged in this collaboration.

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Olena Hart is an immigrant from Ukraine and is a professional writer. In this episode, Zhou learns about Olena's experience living in the U.S. as a Ukrainian, her efforts as a multicultural communicator, and how she takes care of herself and family knowing the war in Ukraine may not end soon.

Follow and connect with Olena:

https://ukrainianinphilly.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/olenahart/

Book recs by Olena:

What Happened to You https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/what-happened-to-you-oprah-winfrey/1138411016

The Culture map

https://erinmeyer.com/books/the-culture-map/

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Cait Donovan is a renowned burnout expert, keynote speaker, and Chinese medicine practitioner. In this real, fun, moving, and profound conversation, Zhou learns from Cait about Burnout, resentment and boundary, getting help and support, behavioral change, Chinese medicine, and looking at someone's life holistically.

Follow and work with Cait:

https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/

https://www.caitdonovan.com/

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Dr. Joel Pérez is an Executive and Leadership Coach. He is the author of Dear White Leader, a book that helps leaders who identify as white learn and practice cultural humility. In this episode, Zhou learns from Dr. Pérez about Cultural Humility, Growth Mindset, Deep Curiosity, and How to Apologize properly.

Follow and work with Dr. Joel Pérez:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelperezphd/

https://apoyocoaching.com/

Find his book: https://dearwhiteleader.com/

Disclaimer: Zhou is not associated with Dr. Pérez' business or publications. This conversation is not an endorsement or an ad. There is no monetary values exchanged.

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Young Seo is a Senior DevOps Engineer by trade. She is an experienced and active rock climber with over 14 years of experience "chasing rocks". In this episode, Zhou learns from Young about her journey as a sophisticated rock climber, her recent incident (a bad fall) and recovery, luck, and gratitude.

Contact Young about her athletic life and experience: https://www.linkedin.com/in/young-seo/

Find PDX Climbers of Color: https://www.instagram.com/pdxclimbersofcolor/?hl=en

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Vivian Acquah is a Certified Diversity Executive, prolific public speaker, and Virtual Reality Trainer on DEI based in the Netherlands. In this episode, Zhou learns what is "replenishing phase", using Virtual Reality in DEI work, using cooking and recipe as teaching tools, and cultural appreciation.

Article Using VR To Unlock Empathy: https://amplifydei.com/using-vr-to-unlock-empathy/

Follow and work with Vivian:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivianacquah/

https://amplifydei.com/

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Priscilla María Gutiérrez is a certified trauma recovery coach. She helps people break toxic cycles and get on healing journeys. In this episode, Zhou learns from Priscilla about becoming a trauma recovery coach, figuring out a career that has no playbook, helping people heal, and keeping your hands open.

Connect with Priscilla:

https://www.instagram.com/cyclebreakercoach/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyclebreakercoach/

https://www.priscillamaria.com/

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Suhasini Gavarshetty is a global citizen who's lived in India, Singapore, Dubai, New York City, and now in Portland. In this episode, Zhou learns about what it means to be a global citizen, a climate activist, and someone who's interested in policy making in order to make our future better.

Follow and get in touch with Suhasini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suhasini-gavarshetty/

suhasini.cg@gmail.com

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Mandy King is the owner and chef of Money Bowl, an establishment in Portland, Oregon, selling innovative/reengineered traditional food from Guilin, China, where both Mandy and Zhou are from. In this episode, Zhou learns about localizing and recreating traditional recipes for a local market; seasonality (eat what's in season); soup as medicine; and love for food.

Follow and find Mandy in Portland:

https://www.instagram.com/_moneybowlpdx_/

https://moneybowlpdx.com/

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Claire Parsons is an employment law, and litigation attorney in Ohio. She is also a seasoned meditation practitioner and teacher to lawyers. Claire has published 2 books and is working on her 3rd book. In this episode, Zhou learns about the impact of meditation on lawyers, how teaching and writing have enriched Claire's life and brought her joy, as well as the importance of collaboration and community.

Follow Claire:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/claireeparsons/

https://brilliantlegalmind.com/about-the-founder/

https://www.mindfulnessinlawsociety.org/

"Work is love made visible." - https://poets.org/poem/work-4

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Audrey Alverson is an expert in communications. In this episode, Zhou learns about using communications for equity and justice, owning our identities with pride, choosing to be childless (an identity Zhou and Audrey share), and making an impact through small actions.

Connect with Audrey:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-alverson/

https://boldworkcollaborative.com/

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Isabel Benatar is a certified Chronic Pain Recovery Practitioner. In this educational and thought-provoking conversation, Zhou learns about TMS - tension myositis syndrome, the stages of pain management, the connections between fear and pain, as well as our own journeys toward liberation.

Follow Isabel's work:

https://www.isabelbenatar.com/

https://www.instagram.com/chronicpainrecovery/

Books mentioned:

Healing Back Pain by John E. Sarno

When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chödrön

Unlearn Your Pain by Howard Schubiner and Michael Betzold

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Tenny Pandika Gillis is a senior leader in marketing and communications. In this gem-packed conversation, Zhou learns about the interconnections between parenting and leadership, her long journey to self acceptance and compassion, the spiritual law of giving, risk taking, validating others, and showing up for ourselves.

Follow Tenny on linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tennygillis/

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Nancy Chapin is the first official hire of Portland Business Districts (1991). At the age of 85, she still works in Portland's business districts full time. In this episode, Nancy graced The Intersection with stories from her decades' long career in nonprofit and community building, her love for Portland, and her life-time commitment to learning and growing.

Nancy was featured by Portland Tribune as an amazing neighbor in 2023: https://www.portlandtribune.com/news/amazing-neighbors-nancy-chapin-her-company-have-long-helped-promote-portland-neighborhoods/article_35c0c8ac-2c00-11ee-bbd1-b798fb78cd1e.html

Follow and work with Nancy: nchapin@tsgpdx.com

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Ahlam Osman is a small business owner, and a candidate for City Council in Portland's District 3.

Being young doesn't mean being inexperienced or naive. In this refreshing and thoughtful conversation, Zhou learns from Ahlam about the Somali community, entrepreneurship, youth leadership, being the youngest candidate for Portland City Council, and being in community.

Follow Ahlam's work:

https://ahlam4pdx.com/

https://www.instagram.com/ahlam4pdx/

https://www.instagram.com/ahlam.jpeg/

https://www.instagram.com/abovegrndpdx/

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In this episode, Zhou learns about workplace anxiety and its profound impact on people and businesses from Joni Roylance, a people-centered consultant on human resources. Joni also talks about holistic approaches, as well as accessible tools for employees and managers to use to address workplace anxiety.

Connect with Joni:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joniroylance/

email: advancedbeings@protonmail.com

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Dr. Joyce Senior is a nutritionist, public health leader, non profit operator, and language expert (Spanish/English). In this episode, Zhou learns about Dr. Senior's heritage, her love for and knowledge about food, how food and hair lead us to deeper conversations and healing, and how language connects us.

Follow Dr. Senior's work:

OSU Cultural Workgroups landing page: https://extension.oregonstate.edu/osu-extension-cultural-work-groups

My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joyce-senior-phd-pmp/

My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjsenior84/

My consulting website: https://www.drjseniorconsulting.com/

My Hair My Health PDX website: https://myhairmyhealthpdx.org/

My Hair My Health PDX Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/myhairmyhealthpdx/

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Zhou is happily schooled in this episode by fellow podcaster and project collaborator Cristina Lumague, founder and producer at Lumague Media. Cristina talks about her journey with ADHD, her service in the army, becoming a professional podcaster, and a parent.

Work with Cristina: https://www.lumaguemedia.com/

Follow How to ADHD: https://www.youtube.com/c/howtoadhd

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Rachel Gibbs is an expert on Pay Transparency in the EU. Zhou learns from Rachel about the EU's pay transparency laws, gender pay gap reporting, remedy and enforcement of the law, and the interconnectedness between the EU and the US on pay transparency.

A case study in Portugal mentioned in the conversation: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/portugal-surprise-result-rachel-gibbs-ogsye/?trackingId=3FVdMAnCSPGAO8gzz%2FDOBA%3D%3D

Follow and connect with Rachel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelbgibbs/

http://merities.com/

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Pay transparency comes with challenges. In the long run, however, pay transparency is beneficial for business. Citizens and residents in the Portland metro area are in support of pay transparency legislation.

"Employees give their time, which is their life, and time is finite." "It would be very nice to have a national database for salary." "Fully support of employers being required to disclose salary info." "Why would you want to talk about it as a selling point?"

Program note: at the end of the episode, our interviewees share their diverse identities in their own voices.

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Employers have concerns over inequitable hiring practices due to the lack of pay transparency. "It saves everyone a lot of time." "When there is no enough transparency, there is a lack of trust." "Being in public sector(s), salary is public information and it is a good thing." "Transparency is good for business."

Program note: states mentioned in this episode that have pay transparency laws: California, Washington.

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We ask our 17 interviewees "If there was a pay transparency legislation in Oregon, would you be in favor, neutral, or against it?" Almost across the board, folks are in favor of a pay transparency legislation in Oregon. Employers and legislators should take notes.

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A less-than-30-mins medical procedure on a seemingly normal Thursday eventually turned into an operation with general anesthesia. What did Zhou learn about provider-patient communication, self-advocacy, the medical system, and community?

For questions and thoughts, please email zhou@intersectional.group

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Suzanne Hanifin is the founder and partner of Acumen Executive Search. She founded the company in her late 30s. Now, in her mid 50s, Suzanne reflects on hiring for good, women in business, women in their 50s, and motherhood.

What Zhou learns from Suzanne is that there is no simple answer for career women and women in business. We all learn to let go and prioritize what's truly important in life.

To follow Suzanne's work:

Website: https://www.acumenexecutivesearch.com/

Hiring For Good: https://www.acumenexecutivesearch.com/hiring-for-good/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzannehanifin/

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Lillian Tsai is a highly experienced and respected intercultural communications expert, DEIB trainer and facilitator, a leadership and organizational change consultant. Zhou has a rich conversation with Lillian on re-engineering one's career, finding purposes, making impacts, aging gracefully, and leaving a legacy. Tune in and subscribe.

Connect with Lillian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tsaicomms/

https://www.tsaicomms.com/

Learn more about Portland Tennis & Education: https://www.ptande.org/

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Rinah Rachel Galper is the founder and lead consultant of Joyoushout. In this loving, moving, and meditative conversation, Rinah shares her journey on spirituality, healing and liberation, love and joy, repair and pay it forward. "My Love Be with You Always" and "Nowhere to Go but Through" are words that moved Zhou to the core.

Find Rinah and follow her work:

https://joyoushout.com/index.html

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joyoushout/

https://linktr.ee/rinahgalper

Upcoming study group:

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-new-saints-a-learning-and-practice-group-for-spiritual-warriors-tickets-865988353477?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=cp&aff=ebdsshcopyurl

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Wendy Kleinfeldt, Jordan King, Abby Coppock, Adriane Jones, Reland Logan, and Zhou Fang, are members of the Women Founders Club that was created by Wendy.

In this conversation, members share their wisdom and lessons from business practice. You will hear Zhou repeatedly saying "I love this" as the guests share their candid and genuine thoughts on solopreneurship, uplifting women, being in community, setting boundaries, being bold, and being in the moment.

Correction: We had 6, not 5 people in the recording room.

Find the guests on LinkedIn:

Wendy Kleinfeldt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/w3ndy/

Jordan King: https://www.linkedin.com/in/-jordan-king/

Abby Coppock: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abby-coppock/

Adriane Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianejones/

Reland Logan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reland-logan/

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As a math educator, a woman, and an Asian American, Vi has done a lot of reflection on her professional journey. As a deeply caring and loving person, Vi wants to share not only her, but also many women's stories. As a devoted educator, Vi dedicates her everyday to help students and teachers succeed.

"when you are a teacher, you are also reliving your childhood." - this is a quote from Vi that Zhou will remember for a long time.

To follow Vi and her incredible work: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vtamargo/

Tune in and subscribe.

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What is Divine Femininity, how to practice Beginner's Mind, what do being inquisitive, playful, and intersectional mean for Lori and Daelynn, practitioners and instructors of the Divine Feminine workshops? In this delightful, enlightening, and tender conversation, Zhou learns from Lori Eberly and Daelynn Moyer. This conversation is an invitation for our listeners to an exploration of spirituality, magic, and divine femininity.

Find Lori and Daelynn on LinkedIn and Instagram:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-eberly-lcsw-74550964/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/daelynnmoyer/

@Lori_EberlyPDX

@DaelynnM

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The general public has little idea of how immigration works in the U.S. Oftentimes, business immigration is not in the public interest although international workers usually have to go through a lengthy and painful process in order to work and live in the U.S. In this conversation, Amber talks about the hardships and technical challenges her clients have to go through. She explains various immigration statuses, especially NIWs (National Interest Waiver). She also sheds light on the outlook of immigration in the U.S.

To follow Amber's work: https://www.waypointimmigration.org/; https://www.linkedin.com/in/ambergdavis/

Correction: Zhou said she had been working with her immigration attorney for more than a decade, which is incorrect. She had been working with her attorney for 7-8 years when she was dealing with the RFE.

Zhou was also recovering from a sickness hence the coarse and clouded voice.

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In this laughter filled episode, Zhou learns about camping, partnerships, entrepreneurship, and culture shift from Lestarya Molloy, Founder and CEO of Fridie Ourdoors, an app that empowers people to get camping by making the know-how accessible offline. It is a must listen. (note, other businesses that are mentioned in this episode have no affiliation to Intersectional Group)

Download Fridie Outdoors: https://fridieoutdoors.com

Follow Fridie outdoors: https://www.instagram.com/fridieoutdoors/

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Rosa Park Neves is a mompreneur, a certified coach for new parents, and a seasoned, passionate HR professional. Zhou learns all things family leave (especially in Oregon) in this fun, genuine, and educational conversation. Rosa generously shares resources for parents and families who have to navigate the complex system:

Rosa's website: ⁠https://rp7online.com/resources/

Baby Blues Connections https://www.babybluesconnection.org/

PostPartum Support International https://www.postpartum.net/

Here is one website to find IBCLCs https://ilca.org/why-ibclc-falc/

"Employees should check with their employer about an ERG for Working Parents and their primary care provider for referrals." - Rosa Park Neves

Rosa facilitates this new mom support group on Friday's in-person https://psjhcrmwebsites.microsoftcrmportals.com/event?readableEventId=New_Moms_Group_Providence_Portland_In_Person1680727678&fbclid=IwAR0NWb7k7MfoMV-Wn6GFmKDFnFJS3x-HoFh7ItK3SwghcnDvFPFx9SzchdQ

Here is the form for her weekend support group that has not yet been scheduled for 2024, but if people sign up then they would be notifiedhttps://forms.gle/1PrRwzBKGDAdjdqq8

Virtual business card https://poplme.co/rp7online

the Center for Parental Leave Leadershiphttps://cplleadership.com/

CAPPA (Childbirth and Postpartum Professional Association) https://cappa.net/directory/

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In a freezing, stormy day in Portland, Zhou talks with Juan Taveras in warm, sunny Phoenix. Taveras is the co-founder and CEO of DEI Pro Finer, a directory dedicated for HR and business leaders to connect with DEI practitioners nationwide. In this engaging and energetic conversation, Juan shares his wisdom on demystifying DEI (diversity, equity, inclusion), employee retention, as well as advice for DEI practitioners who are seasoned and new. At the end of the interview, Zhou's own perspectives on DEI are refreshed and we believe listeners' may, too. Useful links: https://www.deiprofinder.com/; https://www.linkedin.com/in/juan-taveras-mba-sphr/

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In this new year episode, Zhou and guest Imran Haider talk about the importance of reciprocation and overlapping interests in relationships, his unconventional career path, as well as the significance of meaningful interpersonal communications.

Imran Haider is an Assistant Professor at Washington State University. He teaches communications and diversity, equity and inclusion. To follow Imran's work: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imranshaider3/; https://www.knowyourlocalgov.org/ava-ari

Programming note: "grandfathered in" is a dated and racist term that we don't suggest using anymore. More appropriate terms are "roll over" and "bring over".

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In this unscripted, wined, gentle, monologue, Zhou shares her reflections on China - US, psilocybin, systemic racism, intersectionality, being a business operator, loneliness and relationship, love, compassion, gratitude, and most importantly, hope, for our future.

Give it a listen. And subscribe. To follow Zhou's dog Henry Fluffy (mentioned in the monologue), go to Instagram: @henryfluffyfang

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Content warning: suicide and suicide ideation.

Kjell & Zhou both went through unemployment at the same time, but got different outcomes; Kjell & Zhou also both went through immigration in different years, their experiences are also very different.

In this real, raw conversation between two good friends, Kjell & Zhou hope to bring light, attention, and hopefully action to institutionalized racism.

The conversation contains discussion on depression, PTSD, and suicide ideation and action. Please be advised and take care of yourself while listening. The National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is 988.

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Every minute of this conversation is worth listening to. Jessica Heilman is the Executive Director of Center for Women's Leadership in Portland, Oregon. In this conversation, Zhou talks with Jessica on intersectional feminism, intersectional leadership, how to be a white identified, cis-gender leader who centers non-white and non cisgender leaders in the community, how to build "muscles" in becoming an inclusive and equitable leader as a white person, as well as the lessons and reflections she's been having as a new parent, and why prioritizing resting is actually productive. To follow Jessica's work, go to https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamole/ , https://www.pdx.edu/center-womens-leadership/, and https://www.instagram.com/centerwomensleadership/

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This is a deep one. As well as a compassionate one. Yeruwelle de Rouen, founder and CEO of Intersectional Innovations, joins Rihana and Zhou, talks about her understanding and practice of Intersectionality, Liberatory Design, Restorative Process, and Wellness. Listen from the beginning to the end, it is a very educational conversation on systemic issues through the lens of intersectionality. Connect with Yeruwelle, visit https://www.intersectionalinnovations.com and https://www.linkedin.com/in/yeruwellederouen/

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Rihana returns to the program and joins Zhou to speak with Mujidat Saaka, a community builder who's fostered a community within just one year in Portland. In this conversation, Mujidat shares her experiences of Brunch in Houston and Brunch in Portland, her commitment to building communities, and her practice of vulnerability and love. (also, Zhou risks getting cancelled by Portland in this episode). To connect with Mujidat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mujidat-saaka-5a4a401a9/

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Lindsey Washburn is an advocate for civic engagement and an author of children's books that teach kids (and their parents) about civic engagement. In this conversation, Zhou learns about local government, responsible AI, voting (VOTE!), and how do we raise the next generation to be good citizens. Learn more about Lindsey's work, visit https://www.knowyourlocalgov.org/

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Kachka is a well known restaurant in Portland, Oregon. Zhou talks with the the executive chef and co owner, Bonnie Morales, about food, heritage, running a business in uncertain times, eliminating tips and providing everyone a liveable wage and health insurance, taking care of employees and family, the hit TV show The Bear, and Kachka's famous horseradish vodka. Find Kachka in Portland: https://www.kachkapdx.com/

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Who are our worst critics? How do we treat our friends and how do we treat ourselves? What do climate justice, feminism, rest and relax, and self-compassion have to do with each other? In this gentle, kind, and insightful conversation, Zhou and Rihana learn about self-compassion from Kim Levan, a mindfulness and self-compassion coach. Find Kim Levan and her work on https://www.portlandselfcompassion.com/teachers and https://www.pausemeditation.org/msc

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In this lighthearted, funny, yet deep conversation with Day Bibb, Founder and CEO of Helen Rose Skincare, Zhou and guest host Rihana Mungin learn about skincare for extremely sensitive skin, Black women in business (where is the funding y'all!?), self-love and mental wellness, money (honey), and more. Tune in, subscribe, and listen to The Intersection wherever you go.

Website for Helen Rose Skincare: https://helenroseco.com/ (buy buy buy you gonna love it!)

Instagram for Helen Rose Skincare: http://instagram.com/helenroseskincare (follow, engage, share)

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Hello everyone, your host Zhou Fang here. I am excited to announce that our podcast program has a new identity: The Intersection, presented by Intersectional Group. The new program will continue to explore our collective journey on intersectionality, identity, and growth. We talk to folks who have a story to tell and wisdom to share. You can find all the previous episodes here and in the show notes. Please subscribe, stay up to date, and leave a review. On to The Intersection. Thank you.

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Not the usual astrology and spirituality content you typically come across. Maryanna Aster and Liz Vargas join Zhou and Dee to share their experiences and philosophies on astrology and spirituality. Fun and inspiring.

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Zhou visited her home country China in March and April 2023 for the first time since 2016. In this episode, Zhou and Dee talk about Zhou's reentry experience. Dee also shares her experience living in China and Taiwan in 2019.

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Sarah Williams and Kathryn Latham share their paths to solo entrepreneurship, as well as tips for others considering starting their own businesses. To learn more about Sarah's work, check out Word of Mouth PDX. For Kathryn's, visit Latham Business Solutions.

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In this episode, our friend and colleague Kjell van Zoen (DEIB & equitable operations coach, facilitator, educator, speaker, and culture nerd) shares their journey to finding out who they really are, and loving it. Learn about Kjell's work.

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We're all about the intersections on From the Roundabout. On this episode, our guests Stefanie Loebach and Jorge Gallegos discuss immigration in connection with queer identity, politics, and allyship. Find Jorge on Instagram @manchic and Stephanie on LinkedIn. Episode transcript: http://bit.ly/3ZQjg50

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We're still here, friends. Here's a quick update on what's going on for Dee and in turn, the show. Stay tuned for more episodes once Dee gets off her arse and finishes editing them.

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It has been a pivotal year for Dee and Zhou. They not only started a podcast called From the Roundabout together, they also went on different adventures on their own. What have they learned? As Portlanders who are not from Portland, what do they like about the city? What do their dogs WiFi and Henry like about the city and the people in it? What did they joke about? What do they look forward to in 2013? Listen to this episode and find out.

Their super official best-of categories: Food carts, restaurants, date spots, hikes, healthy go-to, fav place for peace and quiet, Wifi and Henry’s fav dog-friendly places, and best community experience

Disclaimer: Dee and Zhou did not receive any compensation from the small (or large) businesses mentioned in this conversation.

Transcript: http://bit.ly/3YUcoEt

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Alysha and Ahlam are fierce advocates for body positivity on- and off-campus in Portland, Oregon. In this episode, Alysha, Ahlam, Dee, and Zhou discuss complexities around body image, self-love, beauty standards, media representations of plus-size women, and social media’s role in young people’s views on body and beauty. To follow Alysha and Ahlam’s journeys, find them on Instagram: @alyyshaaa and @ahlam.jpeg. Transcript: http://bit.ly/3VvOM5W

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Tong Zhang, a Portland-based executive director in the STEM and equity field, talks with Dee and Zhou about leadership as a Chinese American/Asian American woman, raising multi-ethnic children, and her journey exploring her identities and finding her voice. Transcript: http://bit.ly/3EH53P5

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Clarification: the name of our show is From the Roundabout. Not “hello from the roundabout”. This was a mistake made by Zhou. Clearly, she got carried away by the excitement.

In this episode, co-hosts Dee and Zhou kick off From the Roundabout. They introduce themselves and talk about their current roundabouts - what they are, and why. Additionally, they talk about their lives as dog parents, as well as their jaded, sometimes hilarious, dating lives. Dogs and dating are a staple of this show.

TRANSCRIPT (https://bit.ly/3dtO5dH)