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Business can be the most powerful force for good if it's leaders care about the lives they touch. Every stakeholder in a business matters, especially the people in the workplace. On the Everybody Matters podcast, you’ll hear about what it means to be conscious leaders and have a conscious business. You'll hear from voices of inspirational leadership like Simon Sinek, Amy Cuddy, Raj Sisodia of Conscious Capitalism and many more. You'll also hear stories and insights learned through Barry-Wehmiller and it's CEO Bob Chapman’s transformation to traditional business management to Truly Human Leadership.

Is change a dirty word in your organization? Do scenes like this often play out:

You schedule a town hall meeting. You talk about major new initiatives. You're met with blank stares and crossed arms.

This may happen time and again and your leadership keeps saying the same thing: They just don't like change. They don't deal well with change. They don't want to change.

But maybe, it's not a change resistance or change management problem in your organization. Maybe your people are trying to tell you something.

This is another podcast installment of the People and Performance Playbook where the experts at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute share their knowledge on leadership development. You can subscribe to the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter when you follow Chapman and Co. on Linkedin.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute was founded by the late Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to companies around the world and improve their leadership, culture and performance.

The discussion in this episode about change in organizations is led by Chapman & Co.'s Barry Kirk and Emily Gauvain. You can listen through your favorite podcast provider or through the link in the header above.

Recently, in Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute's People and Performance Playbook LinkedIn Newsletter, there was an article by Jami Dix and Morgan Miller titled: The Five-Step System for Building Leadership Capability.

Here's a section:

"Most organizations treat leadership development as a series of programs to deliver. They ask: What workshop should we run next? Which coaches should we hire? What curriculum should we launch?

"Organizations with true leadership systems ask different questions: What does our strategy demand of leaders right now? How do we assess reality against expectations? What experiences will actually build capability? And how do we reinforce it so it sticks?

"This isn't just better planning. It's a fundamentally different approach to how leaders develop.

"The shift from fragmented training to an intentional system changes everything."

This is another podcast installment of the People and Performance Playbook where the experts at Chapman & Co. share their knowledge on leadership development. This episode features Jami Dix and Praisy Issac expanding on the article referenced above. You can subscribe to the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter when you follow Chapman and Co on Linkedin.

Peter Menges is the SVP Customer Engagement & Loyalty for Unique Vacation Inc., an affiliate of the worldwide representative of Sandals & Beaches Resorts. He has more than 20 years of experience in leadership in the hospitality space and he has a strong personal commitment to the power of human-centered leadership, and a human-centered approach to engaging and caring for customers.

Sandals has been on a multi-year journey to re-imagine their points-based customer loyalty program as something more innovative and meaningful, where loyalty becomes an outcome of a great experience and where every guest feels like an insider.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute has been part of that journey from the day one, working very closely with the Sandals loyalty team to help them craft a more Truly Human experience. Chapman & Co. Leadership was founded by our late Chairman Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world.

On this podcast, Barry Kirk, a partner at Chapman & Co., talks to Peter about that journey, as well as how Peter became a Truly Human Leader. Their conversation also includes a story about how Sandals dealt with the aftermath of Hurricane Melissa, which made landfall in Jamaica in October 2025. The storm brought destruction and loss of life and livelihood across the island. Similar to Barry-Wehmiller when revenues collapsed during the great recession, the disaster also left Sandals Resorts facing a critical decision -- how to support the team members in their span of care when the very resorts they worked for had also been devastated by that storm.

Shortly after BW Chairman Bob Chapman passing in March 2026, it was announced that Pat Berges had been named CEO and Managing Partner of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Chapman & Co. was founded by Bob to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world, improving their leadership, culture and performance.

Pat was a longtime friend and colleague of Bob's, bringing more than 25 years of global leadership experience to Chapman & Co. He shares the convictions that drove Bob's legacy. Pat is the founder of H3 Leadership, now part of Chapman & Co., and has held senior leadership roles at Covidien and Medtronic. He previously served as executive director of The Curve Initiative, a nonprofit founded by bestselling author Simon Sinek, and has led large-scale leadership development and culture transformation efforts across more than 100 countries.

On this episode of the Truly Human Leadership Podcast, Pat talks about his friendship with Bob and how his mentorship was inspiring and challenging. Pat talks about his leadership journey, the future of Chapman & Co. and why their work is more important now than ever.

A couple of episodes ago, we talked about the $60 billion problem. That is the amount of money organizations spend on leadership training a year, although recent reports say that number may be as high as $100 billion a year.

But are organizations really seeing the ROI on that money and if not, why?

This is another installment of the People and Performance Playbook where the experts at Chapman & Co. share their knowledge on leadership development. This episode is an discussion of a recent article in the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter by Theresa Carik, PhD titled: "If a Leadership Program Does Not Change Behavior, What is it Actually Changing?" Joining Theresa in this discussion is Chapman & Co.'s Gunnar Millot.

You can subscribe to the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter when you follow Chapman and Co on Linkedin.

Last fall, an episode of this podcast featured a discussion between Bob and Kyle Chapman.

They talked about the legacy of the Chapman family in Barry-Wehmiller with an eye toward the future as Bob passed the mantle of CEO onto Kyle after 50 years in that role. It was a touching, heartfelt conversation between father and son, worth going back to listen, especially in light of Bob's passing on March 19, 2026 after a 16-month battle with leukemia.

A little more than a month later, Kyle Chapman sat down for a wide-ranging conversation with our video producer, Chad Harris. Kyle reflects on the loss of his father, but also talks about how to channel that loss into action in carrying Bob's legacy forward. He talks about the future of Barry-Wehmiller, and lays out very clearly Barry-Wehmiller's intent to redefine success in business by demonstrating how human and economic vibrancy work in harmony. Continuing, expanding and fulfilling the work his dad started.

Did you know that globally, organizations spend more than $60 billion annually on leadership development and training?

$60 billion in seminars, workshops, coaches, certifications, assessments, subscriptions, books and much, much more.

A lot of money spent, but then your leaders are still micromanaging, avoiding difficult conversations and solving every problem themselves. You might as well have just set those dollars on fire.

But, here's the thing, the training didn't fail, the approach did.

On this episode of our People and Performance Playbook series, which features the experts of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Jami Dix and Praisy Isaac discuss why leadership development should be like Russian nesting dolls. Layered, that addresses the heartset and mindset, as well as the skillset of leaders.

You can learn more about Chapman & Co., founded by the late Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to companies around the world at www.ccoleadership.com.

We recently started a series within the larger episode of the podcast called the People and Performance Playbook. The episodes are a little shorter, but packed filled with insight from the experts at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Chapman & Co. was founded by our late CEO and Chairman Bob Chapman to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world. You can learn more about them at ccoleadership.com.

On this installment, we hear again from Andrew Barenz and Mike Budden as they expand upon the most recent newsletter article, "What is the Cost of One-Dimensional Leadership in Your Organization?" Chapman & Co. has identified four styes of leadership, which Andrew and Mike discuss.

You can subscribe to the People and Performance Playbook Newsletter when you follow Chapman and Co. on Linkedin.

We continue to honor the late Chairman and CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, Bob Chapman and his legacy on the podcast. This episode is a virtual talk Bob gave to a book club in 2020, during the pandemic.

The club was made up of people around Aspen, Colorado, where Bob lived and they had read his book, Everybody Matters The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. It is an interesting discussion, as Bob is in a relaxed environment talking about his life and sharing the insights he had learned throughout his career, which are the basis of his book.

As you may recall, one of Bob's last projects before his passing in March 2026 was the re-release of Everybody Matters, in a 10th anniversary revised and expanded edition. You can find out more about this new version at: everybodymattersbook.com

On this episode, we're introducing a new regular installment of the podcast, the People and Performance Playbook.

Each one of these episodes will be shorter bits of insight from experts at Chapman &Co. Leadership Institute as they share stories from their work and the thinking and methodology they use to help organizations understand and put into practice the idea that people and performance, or human vibrancy and economic growth, can exist in harmony, not in conflict with one another.

These episodes are also a deeper dive into issues written about in Chapman & Co.'s People and Performance Playbook Newsletter, to which you can subscribe when you find them on LinkedIn.

Today's topic is The Shift in Leadership Norms.

If you want to implement the principles discussed on this podcast within your organization to improve its leadership, culture and performance, check out Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute at ccoleadership.com, founded by Barry-Wehmiller' late CEO and Chairman, Bob Chapman, to bring Truly Human Leadership to organizations around the world.

A few weeks ago, Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer spoke at the 2026 i4CP Next Practices Now Conference. Rhonda was a featured speaker, sharing our message of Truly Human Leadership alongside CEOs and other Chief People Officers from companies such as John Deere, Dick's Sporting Goods, Lumen, Northwestern Mutual, Accenture, Microsoft, FedEx and many more.

Originally, Barry-Wehmiller's Chairman, Bob Chapman was supposed to be part of the presentation alongside Rhonda, but he passed away a week before the conference. However, Rhonda was able to incorporate Bob's thoughts through a series of video clips.

As you've heard on episodes in the past, Rhonda was one of the architects of our culture at Barry-Wehmiller and as you'll hear her tell, she was often charged with implementing and putting structure around Bob's ideas.

Rhonda offers an interesting, insightful and candid perspective for anyone who wants to understand more about Barry-Wehmiller's cultural journey. One that we're still on, every day, one step at a time.

On this Truly Human Leadership Podcast where we continue to pay tribute to Bob Chapman, our leader and mentor who passed away on March 19, 2026.

All of us at Barry-Wehmiller are very appreciative of all the tributes, condolences and kind words that have come in over the last few weeks. If you'd like to send your own tribute, condolence or remembrance of Bob, we have a page to do so at bobchapman.co. When you submit it, we'll make sure it gets to Bob's family.

On our last episode, we paid tribute to Bob Chapman in his own words. On this episode, we want to hear from some of his friends, colleagues and admirers.

Last fall, there was a dinner held at Barry-Wehmiller's St. Louis office to honor Bob's 50 years as CEO of our company and to also celebrate his 80th birthday. Bob and his entire family were there to enjoy the evening and we're incredibly thankful Bob got to experience this tribute while he was with us.

On this podcast, we want to feature the speeches that were given that evening. We share them not only to remember Bob, but to share the lessons all of these folks learned from him. They include:

Raj Sisodia, the co-founder of Conscious Capitalism and the co-author of Bob's book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family

Tim Sullivan, Barry-Wehmiller board member and longtime part of Bob's leadership team

Rhonda Spencer, Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer

Steve Gund, who is the CEO of the Gund Company

Simon Sinek, speaker and author, Bob's close friend and one of the biggest champions of Bob's message on leadership

On this episode, we remember BW Chairman Bob Chapman, who passed away on March 19, 2026.

Bob Chapman was more than a business leader, author and speaker, he was a relentless optimist who dedicated his life to building a better world. He worked to redefine what it meant to be a leader in business, to further the understanding that it was an awesome responsibility because the way we lead impacts the way people live. He worked tirelessly to bring more caring to business and built the foundation for Barry-Wehmiller to champion new definitions for success in business: by demonstrating that economic growth and human vibrancy can exist in harmony.

Bob became CEO of a struggling Barry-Wehmiller in 1975 upon the death of his father, William Chapman. At the time, the company was a $20 million supplier of equipment for the brewing industry. As of 2025, when Bob handed the reigns of the business to his son Kyle, the current President and CEO, Barry-Wehmiller had become a $3.6 billion-plus global powerhouse with 12,000 team members and a portfolio spanning industrial and packaging automation, professional services, and life sciences technology.

Beyond his business acumen, in the late 1990s into the 2000s, Bob underwent a personal transformation that changed his thinking from that of traditional "management" to what would later be called Truly Human Leadership.

He then spent the last 15 years of his life sharing the lessons of his transformation by writing prolifically and speaking to audiences around the world.

Although there's no way we could encapsulate the whole of Bob and what he has meant to so many, on this episode, we want to try to pay tribute to Bob through a clips of a number of interviews we've featured with Bob over the duration of the podcast. Clips that we selected that not only pay tribute to his ideas and insight, but that hopefully showcase the person he was.

For more than 75 years, The Gund Company has grown into one of the largest manufacturers and fabricators of composite materials, thermoplastic materials, and elastomeric materials. They have 12 manufacturing locations in five countries and have seen a tremendous amount of growth in the past few years.

Like Barry-Wehmiller, the Gund Company is based in St. Louis and also like Barry-Wehmiller, they are a family business.

On this podcast, we're featuring the Gund Company as Truly Human Leadership Case Study.

A few weeks ago, Steve Gund, CEO of the Gund Company gave a presentation at Washington University here in St. Louis to students in their business school. Steve was joined by Brian Wellinghoff, Barry-Wehmiller's Director of Outreach, who you've heard several times before on this show.

Steve talked about the Gund company's leadership journey and the part Barry-Wehmiller played in helping them along the road to becoming a Truly Human company. Brian provides some additional context from Barry-Wehmiller's own story.

We hope you're inspired by this story that shows how human and economic vibrancy can exist in harmony and how business can be a force for good.

Our last episode featured an interview with Raj Sisodia and Nilima Bhat on their new book, Healing Leaders: 7 Steps to Recovery of Self. In that discussion, we talk about their previous book collaboration, Shakti Leadership: Embracing Feminine and Masculine Power in Business.

To compliment the discussion of Healing Leaders, we're going to re-release a podcast episode from 2016 where Raj and Nilima talk about Shakti Leadership in more depth.

Raj once said, "Vulnerability is not a liability, it's an ability. He was speaking about the benefits of bringing both the masculine and feminine sides of our psyche that exists inside every one of us to our leadership every day. Moving from leadership that is about acquiring power to leadership that nurtures and inspires people. We at Barry-Wehmiller have long believed that there's room for emotion and caring in business. And that's why these two conversations with our friends Raj and Nilima are important insights into how leaders can bring those attributes into their stewardship of those within their span of care.

Raj Sisodia is the co-founder of Conscious Capitalism and, with BW Chairman Bob Chapman, the co-writer of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. Raj is a frequent guest on this podcast. For one, he's a very insightful friend and secondly, he's a prolific writer.

Raj has co-authored a new book, Healing Leaders: 7 Steps to Recovery of Self with his friend and fellow conscious leader, Nilima Bhat. Nilima is a pioneer in integrating Indian wisdom traditions with modern leadership practice, she has trained leaders at organizations such as Microsoft, Etsy, and Tata.

Nilima and Raj previously co-authored the book Shakti Leadership, which took a transformative look at the notion of power and business and how leaders can balance all of their inherent traits to lead with their whole self.

As you'll hear on this podcast, Healing Leaders continues that journey. But it isn't just another leadership book—it's a spiritual and emotional roadmap for reclaiming your humanity in a world that asks you to perform, produce, and pretend.

You can find out more about the book and get your copy at rajsisodia.com.

Barry-Wehmiller Chairman Bob Chapman has said this about the importance of listening:

Time and again, I've written that listening is the most important thing a leader can do. But it transcends the leader role. Listening is the most important thing we, as humans, can do for one another. It shows empathy, it shows you care, and most importantly, it shows the person you are listening to that they matter.

We are not taught to listen in our society. So much value is placed on speaking, but not listening. How many listening classes do you see in schools or colleges? They have "speech" classes and debate teams. The skill of listening is special and we need to be taught how to do it well.

Learning the skills to become an effective listener will not only make you a better leader, but a better human being as well

Listening is something we talk about often at Barry Wehmiller, and you've probably heard a lot about it on this very podcast. It's the foundational class of Barry Wehmiller University, our internal school for our team members. We call this class Listen Like a Leader.

It's also one of the most important offerings of our consulting company, Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, as they bring Truly Human Leadership to their clients. And it was the reason Bob and his wife Cynthia created their non-profit, Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, who brings our listening curriculum to municipal and non profits organizations under the name Our Community Listens.

On this podcast, we want to feature an interview with someone our listening curruculm has had a large impact on, Gregory Bulanow, a retired a fire chief in North Charleston, South Carolina. In 2014, Chief Bulanow was looking for training for the leadership of his department and heard about Our Community Listens through word of mouth. After he attended, the chief knew this was something that could make a huge impact on his department and on the North Charleston community.

In his retirement, Chief Bulanow is still a professor bringing our listening curruculm to his community. His story was featured in the revised and expanded 10th anniversary edition of Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia's book, Everybody Matters the Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. This interview with Chief Bulanow was dome several years ago before his retirement and he talked about the significance of listening in his work, and he starts off talking about why a class such as this would apply to his department.

A few months ago, we were honored that Gonzaga University in Spokane, Washington, named the week of October 13, 2025 "Chapman Leadership Week." That week, their School of Business Administration hosted the inaugural Chapman Lecture on Truly Human Leadership, named in honor of Barry-Wehmiller Chairman Bob Chapman.

It was the culmination of a partnership our outreach team has had with the university to bring the principles of Truly Human Leadership to their classrooms, as well as their training of educators and staff.

The speaker at this inaugural Chapman Lecture was, fittingly, Kyle Chapman, Barry-Wehmiller President and CEO and Bob's son.

Kyle used this opportunity to talk about how Barry-Wehmiller is changing the game of business by showing that economic and human vibrancy can exist in harmony. And he issued a challenge to these future leaders at Gonzaga to demand more from their future workplaces and join us in our goal of building a better world through business.

So on this podcast, we want you to hear Kyle's challenge at Gonzaga and give you the opportunity to join us as well.

In addition to this podcast, which you can watch the the link in the header image or through your favorite podcast host, you can watch a video summary of Chapman Leadership Week through the video below:

Over the years, we've talked about the Harvard Case Study that was written about Barry-Wehmiller in 2016. It's a best seller, taught in over 200 universities to more than 30,000 students.

On an earlier podcast, we talked to the authors of the case study, one of which is our guest today, Harvard Professor Jan Rivkin.

The earlier episode kind of dealt with the how and why the case study was written, but on this episode, we want to go a little deeper.

The Harvard Case Study of Barry-Wehmiller deals with layoffs, a subject that is very prominent in people's minds today. So, on today's episode, we talk with Professor Jan Rivkin about this issue and we also dive into the subject of business education and how leadership is taught and how students are thinking about leadership and how they react to the Barry-Wehmiller case study.

It's a wide-ranging discussion, but one that is very pertinent to many issues we are facing today.

Aaron Witt started his career as a kid who loved construction. But over the years, he's built something bigger than he could have ever envisioned to support the industry he loves.

Aaron is the founder of Build Witt. You can find out more about them at buildwitt.com and Aaron has his own website at aaron-witt.com. Build Witt is a company that creates microlearning software for the critical infrastructure industries, they operate the online community Connect and they host the Ariat Dirt World Summit. BW Chairman Bob Chapman was actually a speaker at the first Dirt World Summit.

Aaron invited Bob to speak after reading the original version of Bob's book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family. In fact, here's what Aaron had to say when he endorsed the recently released revised and expanded edition of the book:

"Discovering Everybody Matters as a 20-something business leader has saved me heartache and, more importantly, given me a roadmap to make an enormous difference in countless lives. This book is a MUST-READ for anyone leading people, especially up-and-coming leaders!"

Just as Barry-Wehmiller has shown that you can have Truly Human Leadership in the manufacturing industry, Aaron Witt wants to show that the same can exist in the construction and infrastructure industries and that it can also help those businesses flourish.

On this episode, we have a conversation with Aaron about how he is trying to make this happen.

A few months ago, our friend Simon Sinek visited our BW Papersystems location in Phillips, WI to record an episode of his "A Bit of Optimism" podcast with Barry-Wehmiller Chairman Bob Chapman.

It wasn't the first time Simon had been to Phillips, WI, as you'll soon hear, and for his podcast, Simon not only wanted to talk to his good friend Bob, but other BW teammates in Phillips, some he had met almost 15 years ago.

That episode of Simon's podcast is out now. I highly encourage you to listen to it or watch the video version on You Tube, which is almost a mini documentary. You can find this and all things Simon at his website SimonSinek.com

On this episode of our podcast, we want to bring you something special. While in Phillips to record, Simon and Bob held a Town Hall for the team members there as a thank you and to recognize them for the inspiration they have been, not only to Simon but countless others.

We're going to bring you that Town Hall, which is a great dialogue between Bob and Simon, but also includes a couple questions from the audience, including the high school aged son of one of our team members that is a big fan of Simon's and was very excited to talk to him. Also, Simon and Bob talk about the 10th anniversary revised and expanded edition of Bob and Raj Sisodia's book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family, which is available now. Find out more about that at everybodymattersbook.com.

So, here is a companion piece to Simon Sinek's A Bit of Optimism podcast featuring Bob Chapman and Barry-Wehmiller. Here's a Town Hall with Simon Sinek and Bob Chapman.

You may have heard Simon Sinek's recent "A Bit of Optimism" podcast that featured Barry-Wehmiller Chairman Bob Chapman and a number of BW team member from our BW Papersystems company in Phillips, WI.

One particular team member that was interviewed was Randall Fleming, who was a welder when we aquired (or adopted) Marquip, the company that would become BW Papersystems.

While presenting our message of Truly Human Leadership, our CEO Bob Chapman is often asked: What about the people who don't get it? What about the people who actively work against positive change?

Barry-Wehmiller has adopted more than 150 companies and as Bob once wrote:

We realize that when we acquire a company, the people within that company are a product of their experiences. They may have experienced great leaders in their past or, more likely, they have had some negative experiences. Consequently, some have difficulty trusting our leadership message. That's okay. We're all at a different point on this journey, and we have to be patient and trust that the skeptics will eventually see the transformative power it can have—on both their work lives and their personal lives.

On this podcast, you'll hear the story of Randall Fleming, who was one of those people who resisted change at first, but then experienced a radical transformation. He told Simon a part of his story, but we wanted to give you a deeper dive. This episode is Randall's story, told by Randall. It also features BW team members Ken Coppens and Maureen Schloskey.

Randall's story is testament to the life-changing power of meaningful work and the power of what happens when people care in business. It's what happens when you establish a workplace culture of empathy and shared purpose as opposed to the "command and control" atmosphere of most traditional management environments.

Randall's story is an illustration of when we say that the way we lead impacts the way people live. He not only found more fulfillment in his work, his whole life completely changed. And Randall then became a leader, mentor and inspiration to others.

This week, we are celebrating the release of the new revised and expanded edition of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family, Barry-Wehmiller Chairman Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia's book on Bob and Barry-Wehmiller's journey to Truly Human Leadership.

On today's podcast, we want to share a story of Bob and the book's impact on one particular leader. Jason Lippert is the President and CEO of Lippert Components, a global supplier of a broad array of highly engineered components for the leading manufacturers of recreational vehicles, automobiles, watercraft and prefab homes. They also operate in adjacent markets, including hospitality, transportation, construction and agriculture.

Lippert and Barry-Wehmiller are very similar in size, both are on their third generation of family leadership. And they both have similar values when it comes to stewarding the lives in their span of care.

On this episode, I have a conversation with Jason about his leadership journey. How he became a Truly Human Leader and what that meant for Lippert Components. How they approach leadership and personal development. How they approach community service and why that's important to their company culture. We also talk about the impact Bob and Everybody Matters had on his leadership and his company.

This past week signaled a major milestone in the history of our company. We announced that Kyle Chapman is now CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, in addition to his existing role as President. His father, Bob Chapman, who has served as CEO since 1975, will continue to serve as Chairman of the Board.

Barry-Wehmiller has been led by a Chapman since 1957, when William A. Chapman, Bob’s dad, became President after joining Barry-Wehmiller four years prior.

It’s a very exciting time for us here at Barry-Wehmiller. And to celebrate this moment, on this podcast we bring you a conversation between Bob and Kyle where they talk about the history of the Chapman family ownership of Barry-Wehmiller. They talk about a legacy of leadership. They talk about the transition, what it means for the company and our people. And what it means for the future. And you're going to hear a lot about how business can be a force for good.

We announced a couple of weeks ago the new revised and expanded edition of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family, the book Bob Chapman co-wrote with Raj Sisodia which chronicles Bob and Barry-Wehmiller’s journey. Bob and Kyle also talk about the book and its significance and Bob talks about his future. Spoiler alert: in addition to remaining chairman of the board, he’s going to continue to share the message of Truly Human Leadership for a long time to come.

We told you in the last episode about the new revised and expanded edition of our CEO, Bob Chapman’s book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family, which will be out Oct 21. Learn more about it at everybodymattersbook.com.

If you read the original version, you know it’s a story of transformation. It’s about a leader who realized there was a better way to lead that was different than everything he was taught and thought he was supposed to do. And how his company changed because of those realizations and why others should change as well.

On our podcast today, we havea fantastic discussion with a leader who also had a dramatic transformation experience. Mohammad Anwar is the CEO of Softway, a people-first consulting firm that helps evolving organizations truly transform in areas of technology, communication, and culture.

Mohammad and Softway’s story was chronicled in their first book: Love as a Business Strategy. Their recently released book, Love as a Change Strategy details Softway’s further learnings.

On this episode, we talk to Mohammad about his leadership journey. We talk about his amazing transformation and how Softway transformed. We talk about what it means to be a human centered technology company. And we talk about why Mohammad thinks AI can help humans get back in touch with their humanity.

If you’re a regular listener of this podcast, you’ve probably heard of Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia’s book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Treating Your People Like Family.

Well, I’m pleased to be able to finally tell this audience that a revised and expanded version of this seminal book will be released Oct. 21. It has 75 extra pages, catching readers up to Bob and Barry-Wehmiller’s journey since Everybody Matters was originally released ten years ago. There are many new stories and insights that point to the thing we say at the top of each podcast: The way we lead impacts the way people live.

You can find out all the particulars about the book and its release, download an excerpt and see more content at everybodymattersbook.com.

On this podcast, we want to bring you a discussion between Bob and Raj where they talk about the new version of Everybody Matters. They have a wide-ranging discussion on the need for a new version, the impact of the original version and their hopes as this expanded edition is released into the world.

BW CEO Bob Chapman often tells a story about meeting Steve Jones, who was formerly a high school football coach at Kimberly High School in Kimberly, WI.

Steve led his teams to five consecutive state titles from 2013-2017 with an incredible run of 70 consecutive victories, a Wisconsin state record. With those impressive credentials, Bob asked Steve what he taught his players about winning and losing. Steve said they didn’t. He said that they teach them to play their position well for their fellow team members. Do it as an act of respect for their fellow team members.

He said, “When people truly care for one another, it’s amazing how hard they will work for each other.”

To Bob, it begged the question: if you create an environment of unconditional care, wouldn’t the people there want to “play their position well” for their teammates?

But how do you create that environment? Well, that’s the subject of today’s podcast.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s company that is a human-centered consultancy that helps organizations and their leaders align people, culture and strategy to drive results. They help build agile, purpose-driven workplaces where individuals thrive, teams perform and impact endures. You can find out more at ccoleadership.com

When it comes to building a high-performing team, Chapman & Co. will say it isn't just about assembling talented team members and setting a shared vision or common goals. You can have exceptional individuals, a compelling mission and still feel like something's not clicking in your team dynamics.

Most teams don't need fixing, maybe they just need perspective. On this podcast, you’ll hear from Praisy Isaac and Emily Gauvain, experts on team building at Chapman & Co. They’re going to talk about the hidden dynamics that determine whether teams merely function or genuinely thrive and ultimately create that environment of care where people want to play their position well for their teammates.

Our friend Jane Adshead-Grant says this is key in furthering our hope to build a better world:

"As we begin to share the message of what it means to be a Truly Human Leader, to take the responsibility of leadership and be this great steward of people who have been entrusted to us… What I see, time and time again is that there are few role models that enable our future generations to be this way. And so, for me, it’s about how do we role model this way of being in the world? And it isn’t just at work, you know, it’s how we show up in every day life."

We are fortunate to have Jane as one of those role models.

Jane shares quite a bit of insight in this episode, including a discussion of the challenges of the changing landscape of leadership. Based in the UK, she has been a leadership coach and mentor for almost 20 years.

In a conversation with Mary Rudder, Barry-Wehmiller’s Director of Communications, Jane talks about some of the challenges her clients are facing in today’s world and the tools she uses to help them become better leaders.

There is a hunger for a new kind of leadership.

Throughout business and organizations, people continue to be taught to be managers, not leaders. They make sure everyone is in their seat on time, they take headcount for the day, they check off the boxes of daily tasks.

But this is changing. As the evidence of the success of caring organizations becomes overwhelming, organizational leadership is reconnecting with their own humanity and recognizing the humanity of those they lead. They are recognizing that the people within their span of care are not numbers on a spreadsheet that are part of the calculations that equal profit and loss, but someone’s precious children and should be treated accordingly. They are recognizing that the people within their span of care are not just functions, but whole beings who are capable of so much more than the role into which they’ve been pigeonholed.

Leaders inspire. Leaders care. Leaders help people grow. It’s not about the tasks, it’s about the person.

When we treat people with respect and dignity and create opportunities through which they can realize their potential and be appreciated for it, we, in business, can really impact the world in a positive way.

Jacob Morgan interviewed Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman and 140 other CEOs and leaders for his new book, The Future Leader. He took that insight and turned it into a roadmap for leaders present and future to see that leadership is not management, it’s something much bigger and much more valuable.

This is Jacob’s second appearance on our podcast. Hear Jacob talk about his research on the future of leadership on this episode.

One thing we have consistently believed at Barry-Wehmiller is that everyone can be a leader. Anese Cavanaugh‘s book, Contagious You advances the notion—for good or for bad—that leaders have tremendous power to influence those who follow their example.

As Anese says, “The quality of our leadership is based upon our intentions, energy, and presence. By emphasizing authorship, self-care, and response-ability (not responsibility) as leadership skills and therefore cultural amplifiers, Contagious You shows you how to walk the path of more effective leadership while navigating the road blocks in your way. Whether these road blocks be working with negative co-workers, secret agendas, unrealistic expectations, or just the general ‘busyness’ of life and its excessive demands, this book will take you on a journey to create more space, more courageous leadership, and stronger collaboration to influence others and create the impact you desire.

“The common denominator is you. No matter what level you’re on, your intentions, energy, and presence impact your ability to do anything within your life. Contagious You is an invitation to unlock your own power. You set the tone. You are the culture. So show up, lead, and intentionally become the change you wish to see.”

Anese’s book is a gift to yourself and anyone in your span of care: your work team, your spouse, your children, your friends. When we show up in a manner that is life-giving, rather than life-draining, it creates the space for you and others to do their best, be their best.

Learn more from Anese on this podcast.

Almost ten years ago, our CEO, Bob Chapman’s book, Everybody Matters was released. It is a documentation of the lessons Bob and Barry-Wehmiller have learned along our journey. Among the most important insights we gained: Everybody wants to know that who they are and what they do matters.

Mattering is a term that is getting more and more attention lately. A while back, you may remember episodes of our podcast that featured our friend Jennifer Wallace, who has written a book on mattering and children. And separately, Professor Isaac Prilleltensky, who has done a lot of research on the subject. On his episode, Dr. Prilleltensky said that mattering consists of feeling valued and adding value.

On today’s podcast, we’re going to have a discussion about mattering with Zach Mercurio, a researcher, author, and speaker specializing in purposeful leadership, mattering, meaningful work, and positive organizational psychology. He has a new book titled: The Power of Mattering, How Leaders Can Create a Culture of Significance.

Barry-Wehmiller and Bob Chapman are featured in a chapter in Zach’s book, who made this observation based on his research that included BW: How people make meaning in their jobs inevitably affects how they make meaning in life.

It’s an observation that aligns alongside what we say at the top of the podcast: the way we lead impacts the way people live.

Zach and I talk about a number of mattering-related things on this episode. Including how mattering relates to recognition and celebration. That the skills of helping people feel like they matter can be taught. We talk about mattering as it relates to leadership. And we talk about how mattering can be a solution to the crisises of our time.

But we start out talking about how conversation about mattering has come to the forefront, specifically as people start to realize they don’t feel like they matter.

Over the last few years, Bob Chapman has been honored to present the message of Truly Human Leadership to more and more audiences.

Whether to a group of manufacturing executives, city government leaders, business students, human resources professionals, and countless others, the goal remains the same. Bob wants people to understand that the way we lead impacts the way people live.

Bob has long been inspired by the work of The Aspen Institute and their contribution to the conversation around leadership in the world. So, it was an honor when he was invited to speak at the 2017 Aspen Ideas Festival alongside a diverse slate of names, such as New York Times columnist David Brooks, Sen. Cory Booker, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, Former HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros, Saturday Night Live Weekend Update anchors Michael Che and Colin Jost, Katie Couric, Former Disney CEO Michael Eisner, Pulitzer-Prize winner Thomas Friedman, Political Writer Bill Kristol, and Author Susan Orlean.

“The Privilege of Leadership” was the theme of his talk, where he was able to tell the stories of our learnings and journey at Barry-Wehmiller to this esteemed audience. It is our hope that our message took root in many of the discussions that occurred and will continue to resonate afterward, causing action and change in more and more organizations.

On this podcast we share an edited version of Bob's presentation.

The term "influencer" has really become a marketing term. It's a job. People are paid on social media to influence behavior, usually toward certain products. But there are real influencers in our lives -- intentional or unintentional -- that have a much greater effect on our behaviors, in positive or negative ways.

We've long held at Barry-Wehmiller that your leader is one of the most powerful influencers in your life. Many years ago, I was told that the person you report to at work can be more important to your health than your family doctor. A few years ago, Forbes published a study that said 69% felt their leader had the greatest impact on their health, on par with the impact of their partner.

Bob Burg is the best selling author of the classic business parable, The Go-Giver. Another book in that series, The Go-Giver Influencer, is a book that describes the characteristics a leader should have to exert a positive influence on others. Key among them is listening. It’s written, as are his other books in the Go-Giver series, as a parable, and it has a powerful message.

When it was released, our CEO, Bob Chapman wrote a blurb — or recommendation. In it, he said, "If you do nothing more than read and follow the lesson in chapter seven, you will have given yourself a life-changing gift." Here’s a quote from the book about that chapter that explains what he meant:

“The next time you listen to someone speak, imagine you’re using the back of your neck to hear… It’s like listening not only to what a person says, but also to what they don’t say. What they mean. What they’re feeling, behind the words and facial expression.”

On this podcast, we talk to Bob Burg about what it truly means to be an influencer.

Here’s something our CEO Bob Chapman recently wrote in a post on our Truly Human Leadership blog:

The people our leaders lead, they do not “report to” that leader, they are within that leader’s span of care. Just that simple deviation from the normal way of phrasing things completely changes the dynamic of the relationship. Per a Google search, the literal definition of “report to” someone is “to work under the supervision of or take instructions from someone who is in a higher position. It implies a hierarchical relationship where the person reporting is accountable to the individual they report to.” But when you talk about being within a leader’s span of care, it helps to change the way leaders think. It suggests the sense of responsibility a leader should feel to those they lead. Our children do not “report to” us. Our spouses certainly don’t. When we invite someone to join our team, we are bestowed with the awesome responsibility to provide the care and inspiration and support that that precious human being needs to become everything he or she was meant to be.

As Bob says here, just a simple phrase like “span of care” can change our perspective as a leader. And this takes us to our conversation today.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller's consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people. They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop, and equip their leaders.

On this podcast, Ben Huebner, a Senior Consultant at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is going to talk to a couple of leaders from Metlife, who I’m sure you’ve heard of. Since 1868, MetLife has been of the world’s leading financial services companies, providing insurance, annuities, employee benefits and asset management to individuals and institutions around the world.

Ben’s conversation is with Anna Lavery, Vice President, Market Enablement and Andrea Douglas, Vice President, Regional Business Service & Implementation. The three talk about the work Chapman & Co has done with Metlife for a few years now, mainly with what Chapman & Co calls Truly Human Service and Truly Human Language. Notably, you’ll hear the impact using the phrase “span of care” has made in their organization.

Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer, was recently recognized by the St. Louis Business Journal in their 2025 HR Awards for Innovation in HR. This was a long overdue recognition of Rhonda’s leadership, but also the work of the BW Global People Team and everthing they've done to help all of our people, all over the world, feel like they matter.

Rhonda has been with Barry-Wehmiller since before the development of our Guiding Principles of Leadership and was one of the major voices in its creation. She was our first Chief People Officer and it’s her primary responsibility to be the steward of our values and make sure that light shines to the furthest reaches of our organization.

Recently, Rhonda took part in a webinar discussion with Mike Budden, one of the partners in our Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people. They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop and equip their leaders. You can learn more about them at ccoleadership.com.

On this week’s podcast, we want to showcase an edited version of that discussion. It’s an interesting conversation as Mike and Rhonda discuss what it means to scale a Truly Human Leadership culture globally. They talk about the processes and systems we’ve developed to try to make that happen and there's a lot of insight to apply to your own organization.

True leaders create space for individuals to be passionate about their work and feel a sense of ownership. Nobody wants to be managed, bossed or supervised. We must inspire creativity in our people. Those ideas are the backbone of a culture of continuous improvement and a culture where people feel like they matter.

Michael Gelb is the author of books such as How to Think Like Leonardo da Vinci and Innovate Like Edison. He has been applying the principles of genius thinking to personal, leadership and organizational development for more than 40 years. He has worked to inspire creativity in the workplace and his journey led him to our friend and Everybody Matters co-author, Raj Sisodia. Together, they wrote The Healing Organization: Awakening the Conscience of Business to Help Save the World.

On this podcast, Michael talks about inspiration, creativity and how that leads to helping people in organizations feel like they matter.

BW CEO Bob Chapman often tells a story about meeting Steve Jones, who was formerly a high school football coach who led his teams to five consecutive state titles from 2013-2017 with an incredible run of 70 consecutive victories, a Wisconsin state record. With those impressive credentials, Bob asked Steve what he taught his players about winning and losing. Steve said they didn’t. He said that they teach them to play their position well for their fellow team members. Do it as an act of respect for their fellow team members.

He said, “When people truly care for one another, it’s amazing how hard they will work for each other.”

To Bob, it begged the question: if you create an environment of unconditional care, wouldn’t the people there want to “play their position well” for their teammates?

Our friend, Shawn Murphy, has written a book about teams, team building and team performance: Work Tribes: The Surprising Secret to Breakthrough Performance, Astonishing Results and Keeping Teams Together. To Shawn, one of the key aspects of an environment of unconditional care is belonging. As he wrote in a guest post on our Truly Human Leadership blog:

"As human beings, we are wired to belong. Some researchers say that belonging is what bonds people together. It’s the bond that is either life-giving or life-depleting... Of course, the reverse is true when you don’t feel a sense of belonging. You protect your thinking. You become hyper-focused on yourself. You limit pro-social behaviors. You close yourself off to relationships. Your potential is limited. Yet, when a leader can help someone feel like they belong to the team, the team benefits. Ultimately the company benefits. Human potential is unleashed. Mediocrity is diminished."

As we often say, everyone wants to know that who they are what what they do matter. That is important for every leader to remember. On this podcast, you'll hear a discussion with Shawn as he talks about Work Tribes and the idea of helping your people feel like they belong.

Marcel Schwantes is a speaker, author, acclaimed executive coach, and an Inc. Magazine Contributing Editor. Marcel writes and delivers presentations, workshops, courses, and coaching programs about the human side of business and how cultures of care, connection, and belonging power companies to thrive and outperform the competition. Marcel also hosts the popular "Love in Action" podcast, on which our CEO, Bob Chapman has been a guest.

Marcel has a new book that just came out, Humane Leadership: Lead With Radical Love, Be A Kick-Ass Boss. There are a lot of parallels in Marcel’s writing with what we talk about at Barry-Wehmiller. In his book, Marcel draws on personal experiences, case studies, and compelling research to reveal how leaders can transform organizations by embracing genuine care for their people.

On this episode, we talk with Marcel about how he defines "Humane Leadership" by exploring what he calls the five principles of effective leadership: patience, kindness, humility, advocacy, and trustworthiness.

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This podcast features a story from Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller's consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people. They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop, and equip their leaders. You can learn more about Chapman & Co. at ccoleadership.com.

Chapman & Co. has a dedicated branch in South Africa which has worked with Coca-Cola Peninsula Beverages on leadership development for a number of years. Peninsula Beverages is the largest Coca-Cola franchise in South Africa with 1300 team members. To date, more than 60 percent of their organization has taken the Listen Like a Leader class, which is Barry-Wehmiller's groundbreaking empathetic listening training.

Mike Budden is a partner at Chapman & Co. and the managing partner of their Cape Town South Africa office. On this episode, we’re going to feature a conversation between Mike and his friend and colleague, Bryn Morse, Coca-Cola Peninsula Beverages HR Leader.

Mike and Bryn talk about their journey to bring Cola-Cola Penn Bev’s company culture to another level. They talk about the difference it has made in the company and why the journey was important. And they talk about the importance of Barry-Wehmiller, our CEO Bob Chapman and Chapman & Co to that journey. They talk about a trip to a Barry-Wehmiller facility in Phillips, WI and a lot more.

Kristen Hadeed hadn't turned 30 and she was already the CEO of a successful company and well on her own leadership journey.

Through her company – Student Maid, an all-student cleaning company – she was able to touch the lives of hundreds of college students and hundreds more clients. She has helped these students work their way through school, but she also created a culture that helps them develop important life and leadership skills.

Today, Kristen spends her time helping leaders, teams, and organizations around the world embrace their humanity. She has worked in just about every industry,in almost every U.S. state and several other countries, and in hundreds of virtual meeting rooms. Whether she is delivering a keynote talk, multi-day workshop, or facilitating ongoing development, her goal is always the same: to ignite the kind of human leadership that builds trust, belonging, and wildly engaged cultures.

Her work has been featured in news outlets including PBS, FOX, Inc., NBC, TIME, and Forbes. Her first TED Talk has more than three million views on YouTube.

Kristen has long been a friend of Barry-Wehmiller and she wrote about her leadership journey in a new book, Permission to Screw Up: How I Learned to Lead by Doing Almost Everything Wrong, that has sold more than 50,000 copies worldwide. Kristen was previously a guest on our podcast for a profound conversation about the Millennial generation. She returned to talk to us around the time Permission to Screw Up was released.

Raj Sisodia is the co-author of our CEO, Bob Chapman’s, book, Everybody Matters, and the co-founder of Conscious Capitalism. You can find out more about Raj on his website, Raj Sisodia.com

Raj is working on a very special project we’ll be able to talk about soon and, as every conversation with Raj is enlightening, we decided to roll the proverbial tape to capture some of his insight.

We ended up talking about Raj’s experiences for the last 20 years or so, specifically through some of his books: Firms of Endearment, Conscious Capitalism, Everybody Matters and The Healing Organization. Raj’s career in and out of writing has mirrored the rise of the conscious leadership and conscious business movement, and so we talk a little history as well.

On this podcast, you’re going to hear that conversation. One of the reasons it’s such an important conversation, is that while Raj recounts a bit of history, he traces things to today and where the conscious business movement is right now. It’ll give you a lot to think about.

Our friend Donna Hicks, a Harvard professor, world peace negotiator and author of the book, Leading With Dignity, was recently in St. Louis to participate in an event co-sponsored by Barry-Wehmiller at St. Louis University. It was a roundtable discussion on a subject of which Donna is an expert: dignity. We also brought her to Barry-Wehmiller to have a discussion with our senior leadership team.

Donna has appeared on this podcast before, but while she was in town we wanted to sit down and have a conversation to talk about her work in defining and characterizing the importance of the concept of dignity. We also wanted to talk with Donna about how Truly Human Leadership and the work Barry-Wehmiller is doing to influence leadership and business honors dignity.

We’ve all heard about those organizations who have a dynamic and powerful leader who brings everything to new heights of success and notoriety. But then, when the times comes where that leader moves on, things are never quite the same. Other able and competent leaders left because they never received an opportunity to grow and use their gifts because the organization so relied on that one dynamic leader. So, after his departure, the organization flounders, or worse, ceases to exist.

This is a scenario that Barry-Wehmiller has seen a time or two in our history of acquiring or, as we say, adopted companies and brought them into our family to hopefully give them new life.

One of the most caring acts of leadership and one of its greatest responsibilities is to provide a safe and stable living for those people who are in our organizations, who are within our span of care. That’s why the subject of today’s podcast is so important. We’re going to talk about succession planning, or strategic workforce planning. You may think you understand what that means, but after this discussion, you’ll truly understand why it should be a high priority of caring organizations.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller's consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people. Succession planning is at the heart of what Chapman & Co. does, helping those organizations identify, develop, and equip their leaders.

Today’s discussion features three Industrial Organizational Psycologists from Chapman & Co. — Melinda Bremley, Andrea Cornelius and Jenny Morton Eagen — and is moderated by Chapman & Co’s Jessie Turner.

As Melinda says during the discussion, "Succession planning requires people to stop and think more strategically about 'what are we looking for, what is needed now, what is needed in the future.' And that front-end piece of the process really is kind of the game changer for having a more strategic mindset."

Often on this podcast, you’ll hear Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman, other BW leaders or other thought leaders talk about the waycaring leadership or Truly Human Leadership impacts the lives of people in our workplaces. However, on this episode, you’re going to hear from some of our team members within Barry-Wehmiler.

A few years ago, we started a video series called “Better Work, Better World” that you can find at trulyhumanleadership.com or on our social channels. The series is a way to feature our team members’ stories and recognize them for their contributions.

On this podcast, you'll hear from five team members from our BW Packaging platform of companies, namely BW Integrated Systems and BW Flexible Systems. You'll hear them talk about how they came to Barry-Wehmiller, what their roles mean to them, how Truly Human Leadership affects their roles and why they refer to BW as a family.

This is the third and final part of this podcast series where Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman answers questions submitted by our social media audience. You will find the questions below the You Tube embed. Don’t forget to go back and listen to part one and part two.

We hope you find the dialogue we’ve been having over these last three episodes as inspiring as we have. We will do it again in the future! The way we lead impacts the way we live. Let's move into this New Year abandoning the thinking of traditional business management and embrace the practice of caring leadership.

This is the second episode of our podcast where Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman answer questions submitted by our social media audience. You will find the questions below. Don’t forget to go back and listen to part one.

We appreciate everyone who took the time to send in questions. Bob thought it was a wonderful dialogue. More to come!

A while back, we asked followers of Barry-Wehmiller on social media to send in questions for CEO Bob Chapman to answer on our podcast.

We were overwhelmed by the response! We appreciate the time and thoughtfulness of everyone who submitted their questions. There were so many, the answers will be spread across multiple episodes of the podcast. Bob enjoyed the dialogue with you all so much, we will probably do this again in the future.

In this time of Thanksgiving in the U.S. we are very thankful for all of the Barry-Wehmiller teammates around the world who are a daily inspiration and we’re thankful for you, loyal readers and followers, who help spread our message of Truly Human Leadership.

BW CEO Bob Chapman met Dr. Anita Sanchez a few years ago through a mutual friend, William Ury. Since then, Anita and her husband, Kit Tennis, have become great supporters of what we’re trying to do at Barry-Wehmiller, spreading the message about the power of Truly Human Leadership.

As is described on her website, Anita’s book, The Four Sacred Gifts: Indigenous Wisdom for Modern Times, is a guide "in living as whole, joyful human beings in our modern lives. Through a series of breath-taking, up-lifting stories drawn from experiences of leaders in business and communities around the world as well as from her own amazing journey, the author inspires us to discover and trust our gifts showing us how to become the life-giving connection to all: People, Spirit and the Earth."

The principles Anita writes about and their connection to her heritage align closely to the similarities Bob has identified between leadership and parenting. When we lead others, when it comes to building teams, having a connection – like a family – is so important.

Sometimes, as leaders, we need to reconnect with the idea of what a family is to be able to connect with others. Anita’s book is filled with the wisdom to try to do that in order to move toward a world where people feel like they matter.

Dr. Ken Druck has been a trusted advisor through the years, personally to Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman, and also to the leadership of BW during some of our tough times.

After the loss of his daughter, Ken decided to dedicate himself to helping others find their way through grief. He founded the Jenna Druck Center in his daughter’s honor and went on to be a source of hope to families affected by the tragedies of 9-11, Columbine, Katrina and Sandy Hook.

A few years ago, we invited Ken to Barry-Wehmiller corporate headquarters in St. Louis as part of our Leadership Speaker Series. We at Barry-Wehmiller often talk about how listening is key to helping people feel valued, but that must be accompanied by empathy and compassion.

In his talk, Ken spoke not only about how he processed his own grief, but he also talked about how to be a good friend and encourage those who are experiencing grief. But, the things that Ken discusses in this podcast can not only be guidelines to be compassionate to those experiencing grief, they're good things to think about when approaching people in everyday life. Especially during stressful or tense times. Our friends, family, teammates and acquaintances. In our workplaces, our neighborhoods and our homes.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller's consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people. They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop, and equip their leaders. You can learn more about Chapman & Co. at ccoleadership.com

One company that Chapman & Co. has a long relationship with is Meijer, a midwestern chain of grocery stores that currently has about 270 stores with 70,000 team members. On this podcast, Barry Kirk, one of Chapman & Co.’s partners, has an indepth conversation with Dave Lopez and Josh Barber of Meijer. They talk about why Meijer began working with Chapman & Co. and share some of the results, as well as how they are trying to sustain those results. They also talk about a fascinating aspect of training that incorporates gamification. But most importantly, they share how they were able to let their leaders be leaders.

Michael Bungay Stanier (or MBS) is the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. They’ve trained hundreds of thousands of managers to be more coach-like and their clients range from Microsoft to Gucci.

A few years ago, Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, shared our leadership philosophy with MBS on the Great Work Podcast from Box of Crayons, which is where we were first introduced to his work.

One of MBS's books, The Coaching Habit: Say Less, Ask More and Change The Way You Lead Forever, has sold more than a million copies and is the best-selling coaching book of the century. The Coaching Habit very much resonates with our core principles at Barry-Wehmiller, you can see it in the title: “Say less, ask more.” In other words, listen. Really, truly listen.

On this podcast, Michael talks about the difficulty leaders have in listening and why that may be, but he also gives practical suggestions on how leaders can be better coaches and help their people feel like they really matter

Jacob Stoller previously appeared on our podcast to discuss his last book, The Lean CEO: Leading the Way to World-Class Excellence. A number of years later, he has a new book: Productivity Reimagined: Shattering Performance Myths to Achieve Sustainable Growth.

This episode features a fascinating conversation about the evolution of Jacob's thinking between the writing of his two books that coalesced around the idea of productivity. Mainly, are we viewing the idea of productivity through the correct lens and how can companies approach the idea of productivity in a more sustainable way? One that benefits not only the company, but the people within.

Also on this episode, we touch on topics that are currently at the forefront of the productivity discussion, such as AI and remote work. Jacob's research into these aspects of poductivity may surprise you.

Barry-Wehmiller’s CEO, Bob Chapman, often says that to be a Truly Human Leader, you need to have the skills and courage to care.

Often, when you are placed into the role of leadership the traditional way to view the people within your span of care is as functions. So, you try to get them to do what you want so you can be successful, not because you care about them. It’s not about who those people are or why they matter. They’re just a function for your success or the success of your organization. Caring is reserved for family and friends outside the doors of the office.

But, Bob says, caring is what we need more of in the workplace. Everyone on the team – especially leaders -- needs to shed their emotional armor. It’s only then that we connect more deeply so that the 40 hours a week we spend away from home are not draining but fulfilling. As leaders, we should create work environments in which our team members feel safe, cared for and comfortable being their true, fully human selves.

This is also one of the main insights in a new book in which Bob and Barry-Wehmiller are featured. It’s called The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. It was written by four senior partners from McKinsey and Company, one of the most prestigious consulting firms in the world. It’s a look-behind-the-curtain at McKinsey’s step-by-step approach to transforming leaders both professionally and personally, which was gleaned through lessons from its legendary CEO leadership program “The Bower Forum,” which has counseled 500+ global CEOs over the past decade, as well as McKinsey’s global CEO counseling practice.

On today’s podcast, we feature a conversation between Bob and Ramesh Srinivasan, one of the McKinsey Senior partners who co-authored The Journey of Leadership. We’ll talk about what it means to lead from the inside out, and how that connects to Bob’s thoughts on caring in the workplace.

McKinsey and Company is one of the most, if not the most, prestigious consulting firms in the world. McKinsey creates immeasurable value for its clients, influences how the business world operates, and produces many of the world's business and political leaders.

Barry-Wehmiller and our CEO, Bob Chapman were recently featured in an important new book written by four McKinsey Senior Partners. It’s called The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. It was written by Hans-Werner Kaas, Dana Maor, Ramesh Srinivasan, and Kurt Strovink.

The Journey of Leadership offers leaders a method by which they can assess their own leadership and reinvent their approach in a way that is in alignment with many of the principles Bob Chapman talks about, and that we often talk about on this podcast. The authors have packed it full of lessons from McKinsey’s legendary CEO leadership program “The Bower Forum,” which has counseled 500+ global CEOs over the past decade, as well as insights gleaned from McKinsey’s global CEO counseling practice. The Journey of Leadership shares how you can hone the psychological, emotional, and ultimately, the human attributes to be what we would call a Truly Human Leader.

We at Barry-Wehmiller are honored to be one of the case studies in the book, appearing in chapter 12, which is titled: For People to Care, Show Them You Care.”

On today’s podcast, we bring you a conversation between Bob Chapman and one of the authors of The Journey of Leadership, Hans-Werner Kaas. Hans-Werner introduces himself and explains the inspiration behind the book and he and Bob have a meaningful discussion about the importance of human-centered leadership.

Have you ever thought about what your eulogy might say? It’s kind of a macabre thought, but it’s actually a pretty important question. And it’s the topic of conversation on this podcast between Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, and Garrett Potts, an assistant professor at the University of South Florida.

As you’ve heard over several episodes of this podcast, Barry-Wehmiller is working with a number of universities to try and instill principles of Truly Human Leadership into business schools, so future leaders are not only taught the hard skills you’d expect they need in their career, but also the essential skills of how to be a caring leader. Bob met Garrett through those efforts and he came up with the idea of having students write their own eulogy. Bob challenged Garrett to impress upon his students to live their lives with intention and ask them, “When your life comes to its end, which eventually it will, what do you want people to say about your life?”

On this podcast, you’ll hear why Bob and Garrett think this is an appropriate challenge for students at this point in their career, but you’ll also hear a broader discussion on the purpose of education and how better leaders can be created through it.

Rich Sheridan is the CEO and co-founder of Menlo Innovations, a software development company based in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He's the author of the books Joy, Inc. and Chief Joy Officer: How Great Leaders Elevate Human Energy and Eliminate Fear.

In chapter three of Chief Joy Officer, Rich says “If there is a core tenet upon which I would build my leadership life, and in doing so inspire those I led, it is this: love wins every time.” He then goes on to relate one of the most famous passages of the Bible, 1 Corinthians 13: 4-8, to the qualities of a loving leader.

Whether or not you’re a religious person – in fact, that verse is used often in even the most secular of wedding ceremonies – the relation of what the verse says to the qualities a leader should have is powerful.

Rich talks about this chapter on this podcast. However, we encourage you to pick up his book and read for yourself. That chapter alone may affect the way you approach your responsibility for those entrusted to your care in your organization.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

They do this by helping those organizations identify, develop and equip their leaders. One of the ways Chapman & Co helps to equip leaders in an organization is with information. One of the ways they can provide that information is by administering an organizational culture survey.

On this podcast, we’re going to do a deeper dive into organizational culture surveys and implementing them within a global organization with Chapman & Co.’s survey expert, Morgan Miller. Morgan will explain the whats, whys and hows of organizational culture surveys and then she'll also talk to Yasmin Nehls, a people team leader from Barry-Wehmiller’s BW Papersystems company. Together, they address the challenges in implementing a global organizational culture survey, but they’ll also talk about the ways the survey has brought change to their organization.

Businesses destroy lives all the time. Not just by being poor partners to their consumers or communities, but through poor leadership and work environments where the employees feel overlooked or disregarded.

But what if businesses could be instruments of healing instead of destruction?

Our good friend Raj Sisodia and his co-writer, Michael Gelb, have written a wonderful examination of how business can be a force for good in the world with their book, The Healing Organization. We at BW encourage you to buy it, read it and take it to heart. Consider the stories they tell of companies who have found a better way to do business for all their stakeholders and ask yourself how you can contribute in your organization to create a better world.

Raj and Michael talk about their new book and share their valuable insights on this episode of our podcast.

“Most leaders understand their influence on team members’ lives during work hours, but often enough, they don’t think about how their leadership affects team members outside of the workplace as well.”

Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, wrote this in a blog post on trulyhumanleadership.com titled “Wellness and Work: What's the ROI of Caring?” The connection between leadership and health has been a major point in his speeches over the past few years. In fact, he once told a group of CEOs that they were the cause of the healthcare crisis in our country.

A friend of ours, Jeffrey Pfeffer has a book, Dying for a Paycheck, which is a deep dive into the connection between the workplace and poor health. He had this to say about his book: "I tell people all the time...The workplace is killing people, and nobody cares. And to me, the second part is worse than the first. We do not care about human health and well-being. We do not care about human psychological physical health. We do not care about people. And until we change that orientation, it’s going to be ugly."

Much of Jeffrey’s book reinforces many of the things we’ve been saying for awhile. On this podcast, he talks about his book and explains why he thinks the workplace is killing people.

A few years ago, BW CEO Bob Chapman had a conversation with Jane Adshead-Grant, a facilitator and coach in the UK and Europe.

In this conversation, they talk about the concept of the need for a “Human Revolution” in business. Bob has written before about the trajectory of leadership in business from the Industrial Revolution to now. As we look at the focus and priorities of business leaders today, there are bright spots, but the dark specter of management still looms large over our organizations.

What is the “Human Revolution” and how would it change business today? Listen to this episode to find out.

Anese Cavanaugh is the CEO of Active Choices, Inc. She is the creator of the IEP Method (Intentional Energetic Presence) and the Positive Energy Workplace Initiative and a strategist and advisor to leaders and organizations around the world. She is devoted to helping organizations support their people so they are able to show up and bring their best selves to the table, create significant impact in their lives, and create authentic positive energy workplaces and cultures. Anese is a keynote speaker and author of Contagious Culture: Show Up, Set the Tone, and Intentionally Create an Organization That Thrives and Contagious You: Unlock Your Power to Influence, Lead, and Create the Impact You Want.

This was our first conversation with Anese on our podcast. She is as insightful as she is energetic and is passionate about making organizations better places to work and be.

Dr. Donna Hicks is an Associate at the Weatherhead Center for International Affairs at Harvard University. You may recall that she has facilitated dialogues in numerous unofficial diplomatic efforts in the Middle East, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Colombia, Cuba, Libya and Syria. She has consulted with governments, corporations, schools, churches, and non-governmental organizations.

And she is an expert on the subject of dignity.

On this podcast, Donna introduces the Dignity Model and explains how it has been used to address numerous leadership challenges in the corporate world, healthcare, education, governments and organizations of all kinds. She also tries to give an understanding of what dignity is and is not, the neuroscience of dignity and what it looks like to have “dignity consciousness.”

Listening is not always a dedicated subject in educational curriculums.

Think about it. There are speech classes, debate teams. You don't hear much about listening classes. That's why it's one of the foundational leadership classes taught in Barry-Wehmiller's internal university. We teach our people to "listen like leaders." It not only affects their relationships at work and with customers, but it has been shown to have a pround affect at home with their families, friends and neighbors.

On this podcast, you'll hear how those teachings are being integrated into college curriculum by Lisa Waite, a professor in communication studies at Kent State University. Lisa teaches a course titled Business and Professional Communication. On this episode she discusses incorporating Barry-Wehmiller's empathetic listening curriculum and CEO Bob Chapman's TEDx talk into her college courses, as well as the effect it has had on her students and their leadership skills.

Laurie Butz is the President and CEO of Capital Credit Union, a credit union with more than 120,000 members in northeast Wisconsin.

And we at Barry-Wehmiller definitely consider Laurie part of our extended family.

Laurie’s husband, Dennis, worked for many years for our Paper Converting Machine Company, or PCMC, based in Green Bay, WI, part of our BW Converting group of companies.

Our CEO, Bob Chapman, has been privileged to be part of Laurie’s leadership journey. And Laurie has enlisted Bob and Cynthia Chapman’s non-profit, Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, to bring our leadership training into her organization. Laurie is also working with the Chapman Foundation on a very special initiative in Green Bay, where Capital Credit Union is based.

As we always say at the beginning of this podcast, the way we lead impacts the way people live. It’s one of the driving forces behind the importance of practicing what we call Truly Human Leadership. On this podcast, we’re going to tie all our common threads together as we talk to Laurie about the ripple effect of Truly Human Leadership in her life at home and, consequently, her own leadership journey.

On several episodes of this podcast, you’ve heard about Barry-Wehmiller’s efforts to transform how business education is taught. If you want leaders who have the skills and courage to care, that should be part of their education before they are out in the world and in positions of responsibility.

But what if we can reach people before they are in business school? What if these skills of Truly Human Leadership are taught alongside history, math, science and grammar in primary and secondary education? It could make an amazing difference in our neighborhoods and communities and in the future of our world.

This has become a focus of our CEO, Bob Chapman, and to kick-start this effort, we recently hosted a very important group of friends and allies at our St. Louis office to reflect on the purpose of education and formulate a vision to inspire our efforts as we begin in earnest. An “education summit,” if you will.

On this podcast, we’re going to feature a collage of takeaways from that special day from Anne White of Chapman Foundation for Caring Communities, David-Aaron Roth of Charlotte Latin School and Sarah Bennison of the Mattering Movement.

If you want to change the way people lead, maybe you should go to the source of where they’re taught to lead – business schools. Maybe the way we teach people to lead should change.

Christopher Reina is the Founding and Executive Director of the Institute for Transformative Leadership and an Associate Professor in the Department of Management and Entrepreneurship at Virginia Commonwealth University.

Chris came into our orbit at Barry-Wehmiller a number of years ago. Our relationship with Chris blossomed into a partnership at Virginia Commonwealth University, spearheaded by our Director of Outreach, Brian Wellinghoff, who is now their Executive in Residence.

Chris has also recently published a paper in the Academy of Management Review, titled “Humanistic Organizing: The Transformative Force of Mindful Organizational Communication,” that lays out a framework for businesses to transform into more people-centered organizations where individuals feel valued and a strong sense of belonging. And it features Barry-Wehmiller as one of its case studies.

On this podcast, we’re bringing Chris and Brian together to talk about the partnership at VCU to transform the way leadership is taught.

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman met Steve Jones, former head football coach at Kimberly High School, several years ago through a mutual friend.

Coach Jones said something to Bob that made a lasting impression: “When people truly care for one another, it’s amazing how hard they will work for each other.”

When Coach Jones stepped down in 2021, his career at Kimberly High School included five WIAA state championships, 10 conference championships, a 70-game winning streak that set a state record and an overall 129-9 record. He was the 2016 and 2017 Associated Press state coach of the year and the Wisconsin Football Coaches Association/Green Bay Packers coach of the year from 2015 to 2017.

But Coach Jones’ desire to spread the principles of caring leadership extends much further than his team. He developed and taught classes on leadership at Kimberly High School, touching the lives of many future leaders.

In fact, that's why Coach Jones stepped off the football field, to try to help leaders everywhere up their game.

In 2021, Coach Jones and Lucas Jadin, a professional mindset coach, co-authored the Amazon best-seller,The Twin Thieves: How Great Leaders Build Great Teams. Together, they formed Jadin Jones, a company that seeks to inspire and coach world-class business leaders, educators, and elite athletes to thrive in competitive environments, to empower themselves and others and compassionately create cultures of strength, unity, and resiliency.

On this podcast, first released in 2019, Coach Jones talks about his efforts on and off the football field to bring caring leadership principles to upcoming generations. Leaders in business should listen closely.

The leaders of your business can affect its health and vibrancy. They also can have a tremendous impact on the people within their span of care in the business.

So, when it’s time to bring someone new into your organization, how do you know when you’re hiring the right person? You can’t always rely on your gut or a couple of meetings. If you make the wrong decision it can be devastating to the business and the people within.

When Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute works with an organization to identify leaders, they use a number of proprietary pre-hire assessments and tools to help make those determinations. But it’s not a bunch of impersonal, rigid tests. They take a truly human approach to pre-hire testing, to make the best decision for everyone involved.

On this podcast, we’re going to explore how to keep the humanity in pre-hire assessments with the experts at Chapman & Co. First, you’ll hear a mini-case study as Chapman & Co.’s managing partner, Sara Hannah interviews a customer, Carol O’Neill of BW Packaging. You’ll hear how Carol and her team have used pre-hire testing and the difference it has made in that business. Then you’ll get a deeper dive into how Chapman & Co approaches pre-hire testing as Matt Whiat interviews Chapman & Co partner Melinda Bremley, including discussion on the role of AI in the assessment world.

Dr. Melinda Bremley is the newest Partner at Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

Melinda and the rest of the team at Chapman & Co do this by helping those organizations identify, develop and equip their leaders. You can learn more about Chapman & Co. on their website: ccoleadership.com

Melinda has over 25 years of experience in executive coaching, excelling in nurturing leadership at various career stages. At Chapman & Co., Melinda plays a pivotal role in realizing their mission, bringing extensive experience in creating and maintaining selection processes across organizational levels. Notably, she also spearheads succession planning and CEO/President performance feedback processes.

On this podcast, we’d like to introduce you to Dr. Melinda Bremley through a discussion she has with two other Chapman & Co team members, Morgan Witzig and Jessie Turner. They’ll talk about Melinda’s background and experience, but also talk about leadership coaching, the benefits of assessments, AI and leadership and Melinda talks about some of the biggest challenges she is seeing leaders face at the moment.

Times of transition can be challenging for any organization. But challenging times and times of change often presents many opportunities for growth.

But the ability to maximize those opportunities depends on effective leadership.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that specializes in helping other organizations unleash the extraordinary in their businesses and their people.

A few years ago, Chapman & Co. acquired Leadership Alliance – a data-driven talent acquisition and development business equipped with a team of consultants, many of whom have their Ph.D. in psychology.

The Leadership Alliance brand is now officially combining under the Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute name, which has inspired a number of emotions around the transition, especially from Leadership Alliance’s founders.

On this podcast, Chapman & Co.’s Matt Whiat talks to David and Karen Weller, Leadership Alliance founders and current partners in Chapman & Co. We’re going to explore this transition in the hope that it can help other organizations in their own change journeys. We explore some of the things to keep in mind to make transitions as smooth as possible for the people inside the business.

It is a universal truth -- every one of us, no matter what our job or where we live, simply wants to know that who we are and what we do matters. As leaders in business, we have the awesome responsibility to let people know that they do. Our goal at Barry-Wehmiller is to show the world that business can be a powerful force for good when we realize that the way we lead impacts the way people live and have the courage to care for those we lead.

And that is what Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, did as he spoke to more than 80 different organizations in 2023, sharing the message of Truly Human Leadership. This podcast features a talk he gave to a luncheon for business leaders at Calvin University in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Hopefully, it will inspire you to be the leader you wish you had in the coming year.

At Barry-Wehmiller, we consider leadership to be an awesome responsibility--it holds the key to growing our business and, as important, improving the lives of our team members.

It’s our job, as leaders, to help them establish goals so they know how to contribute, to remove barriers that get in the way of them achieving their goals, and help them chart a path for their growth.

Our team members deserve that and, consequently, if we’re asking them to contribute, we must ensure that they are led by leaders who have the skills to help them perform and the courage to care about them along the way.

A few years ago, we introduced Leader Expectations & Commitments, developed to help all formal Barry-Wehmiller leaders with team members in their span of care understand the actions and skills needed to embody Truly Human Leadership.

On this podcast, we thought we’d explore Barry-Wehmiller’s leader expectations and commitments through five outstanding leaders in our organization. You’ll get to hear how they view these expectations in the scope of their responsibilities and how they try to apply the commitments in their daily interactions and leadership of those within their span of care.

While presenting our message of Truly Human Leadership, our CEO Bob Chapman is often asked: What about the people who don't get it? What about the people who actively work against positive change?

Barry-Wehmiller has acquired more than 130 companies and we've certainly found that the people within that company are a product of their experiences. They may have experienced great leaders in their past or, more likely, they have had some negative experiences. Consequently, some have difficulty trusting our leadership message. That’s okay. We’re all at a different point on this journey, and we have to be patient and trust that the skeptics will eventually see the transformative power it can have—on both their work lives and their personal lives.

On this podcast, you'll hear the story of Randall Fleming, who was a welder in our BW Papersystems company in Phillips, Wisconsin, and very much a skeptic. Randall's story is testament to the life-changing power of meaningful work. It's what happens when you establish a workplace culture of empathy and shared purpose as opposed to the "command and control" atmosphere of most traditional management environments.

When Lean was introduced to the Barry-Wehmiller organization a number of years ago, CEO Bob Chapman's concern was that people would be lost along the way. But we found a way to adopt Lean methods and stay true to our Guiding Principles of Leadership.

Instead of using Lean to reduce waste, we use it to reduce frustration. It's part of the bag of tools we use in continuous improvement to ensure a stable and thriving business for the benefit of our people. It's part of our overall Operational Excellence strategy. Our vision is about engaging people’s head, heart and hands in creating their own future and actively shaping the legacy of the business every day.

On this podcast, we take a look at how our approach to Lean puts people at the center to make it about eliminating frustration, not waste. In addition, you'll hear an interview with Jacob Stoller, author of The Lean CEO. Jacob’s book features a number of organizations, which, like Barry-Wehmiller, found a way to empower people, not processes. And that is the true power of Lean.

John Michel is a former Air Force General who has not only used his leadership experience in service of his country, but also to help transform businesses into places that think more about people than profit.

John has written two books, (No More) Mediocre Me: How Saying No to the Status Quo Will Propel You From Ordinary to Extraordinary and The Art of Positive Leadership. He has written articles for the Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, Huffington Post, National Geographic, Joint Forces Quarterly, and the Washington Post.

In addition to writing and speaking about leadership, John has held executive positions in the transportation and aeronautics industries and is an entrepreneur in the hospitality industry.

John talks about his leadership journey and what he's learned from Barry-Wehmiller in an interview with Brent Stewart and Mary Rudder on this podcast.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting company that helps organizations identify, develop, and equip leaders. They bring the lessons we have learned at Barry-Wehmiller and our principles of Truly Human Leadership alongside scientific methods to provide individual and organizational assessments, training, and consultation. They help their clients drive exceptional results through a culture where people and performance are in harmony.

On this THL Refresher podcast, we bring you a discussion between two of Chapman & Co.’s leading partners, Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat and Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman. This was done at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and the three use Barry-Wehmiller’s experience during crisis to give leaders insight into how they may handle their own. But it’s not a discussion that is limited to the unique situation of a global pandemic. Crisis can hit business at any time.

Rhonda Spencer is Barry-Wehmiller’s Chief People Officer. She has been with our company since before the development of our Guiding Principles of Leadership and was one of the major voices in its creation. It’s her primary responsibility to be the steward of our values and make sure that light shines to the furthest reaches of our organization.

Rhonda joined Brent Stewart and Mary Rudder on this podcast to talk about the nuts and bolts of how we try to make everybody feel like they matter at Barry-Wehmiller. She also talks about how she became Barry-Wehmiller’s first Chief People Officer and what the position means to her.

Imagine going to get coffee for your team and finding your coffee maker had been repossessed.

In the early 1980s, Barry-Wehmiller was in trouble as a business, but we learned to embrace the lessons that arise during times of adversity and uncover the opportunities hidden within periods of crisis.

BW CEO, Bob Chapman, tells this story in his book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring For Your People like Family, co-written with Raj Sisodia. On this podcast, Bob talks about challenging times in Barry-Wehmiller’s history in greater detail. Many of the lessons learned during that time were lessons that informed BW's journey to Truly Human Leadership more than a decade later.

Here are some insights on the effects of burnout:

The World Health Organization (WHO) officially recognized burnout as an occupational phenomenon in 2019. It estimates that over 75% of professionals worldwide experience burnout at some point in their careers.
According to Gallup, burned-out employees are 63% more likely to take a sick day and 2.6 times more likely to actively seek a new job
The American Institute of Stress estimates that workplace stress and burnout cost U.S. businesses around $300 billion annually due to absenteeism, reduced productivity, and healthcare costs
A study published in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine found that individuals with burnout are at a significantly higher risk of developing mental health disorders such as depression, anxiety, and substance abuse.
A study published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health revealed that individuals experiencing burnout were more likely to report personal conflicts and difficulties in maintaining a healthy work-life balance.

Our guest this week, Neha Sangwan, MD, CEO and founder of Intuitive Intelligence, is a physician, engineer, author, speaker, and communication expert. Her new book, Powered by Me: From Burned Out to Fully Charged at Work and in Life deals with her struggles with burnout and gives practical life advice to coping and overcoming burnout in the workplace and in a very stressful world.

A few years ago, the World Health Organization added “burn-out” to the International Classification of Diseases. Here’s how they define it: Burn-out is a syndrome conceptualized as resulting from chronic workplace stress that has not been successfully managed.

Quite a while ago, we learned from the Centers for Disease Control that your immediate supervisor is more important to your health than your primary care doctor. If burn-out results from chronic workplace stress, we’re seeing that to be true.

And it makes sense. 74% of people say the workplace is the leading cause of stress. On Monday mornings, there’s a 20% increase in heart attacks.

On this podcast, you'll hear an edited version of a webinar featuring Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman and Dr. Jeffrey Pfeffer, author of Dying for a Paycheck, called, “The Next Leading Cause of Death: The Workplace?” They'll talk about this crisis and what leaders need to do to solve the issue.

As we’ve talked about in several past episodes of this podcast, Barry-Wehmiller’s CEO, Bob Chapman, has a passion for transforming the way business education is taught in our universities. We want to transform these institutions that train people to manage into institutions that foster Truly Human leaders who honor individual dignity and demonstrate the courage to care for others. It's why we helped found the Humanistic Leadership Academy.

But it’s not only important to teach students how to be truly human leaders, the teachers must model those principles as well.

On this episode, we feature a conversation between myself, David Pickersgill (who is on Barry-Wehmiller’s outreach team who is working with the Humanistic Leadership Academy) and Abhimanyu Gupta, an Instructor in the Department of Operations & IT Management and Interim Director of Emerson Leadership Institute at St. Louis University.

Our conversation with Abhi discusses how he approaches his relationships with his students and why modeling behaviors of truly human leadership is important. And then we talk about his experiences with the Humanistic Leadership Academy, why he became involved and how it has affected him.

Throughout his writing career, Raj Sisodia has put together a roadmap of how businesses can be a powerful force for good in the world through powerful stories of conscious organizations and their leadership.

However, in Raj’s new book, Awaken, The Path to Purpose, Inner Peace and Healing, he uses his own story to show others how to turn inward if they want to be an effect, empathetic and truly human leader.

On this podcast, Raj talks about the circumstances that inspired his turn inward, which then inspired the idea to write the book. But we also place it in the context of why the story he tells in Awaken is important for leaders.

It was Simon Sinek who coined the term “Truly Human Leadership.”

Simon and Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman became fast friends when they first met years ago. Simon wrote about Barry-Wehmiller in his book, Leaders Eat Last, and he also wrote the foreword to Bob and Raj Sisodia’s book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring For Your People Like Family. He is a significant voice and one of our most important allies in spreading our message.

In 2015, Bob and Simon recorded this conversation around the release of Everybody Matters. We re-present it to you in this THL Refresher podcast.

In 2016, Harvard Business School published a case study on Barry-Wehmiller's approach to leadership that is now taught at 80 business schools. In this episode of our podcast, its authors, Jan Rivkin and Dylan Minor talk about the case study method of teaching, why they chose Barry-Wehmiller as a subject, how business school students are responding to people-centric principles and how Truly Human Leadership might apply in our current business and political climate.

Joey Coleman is the founder and Chief Experience Composer of Design Symphony – a customer experience branding firm and also the author of Wall Street Journal bestseller, Never Lose a Customer Again. Joey has a new book that very appropriate for our current times where we’ve had a Great Resignation and people are demanding better leaders and better work experiences, Never Lose an Employee Again: The Simple Path to Remarkable Retention. Whether you are an owner looking to hire your first few employees, an organization hoping to redefine an industry, or an enterprise that needs to keep growing on a global scale, on this podcast, Joey will reshape the way you think about recruiting, hiring, onboarding, and retaining quality team members.

What if the best workplace we’ve ever experienced is just a fraction of what is possible? Dare we dream of something so far beyond ‘business as usual’ that it feels like a fantasy? ...to venture past the workplaces of the past and into the unknown to imagine and create something recognizably different. To create Truly Human work.

The preceding passage is from the introduction of the book, Human Work: Five Leadership Mindsets for Humanizing the Workplace, written by Leanne Holdsworth and Naryan Wong. On this podcast, we’re going to talk about the five leadership mindsets mentioned in their book’s title and we'll address the initial question asked in their introduction.

Does your organization have a Speak Up Culture? One where people feel it is safe and worth it to share their ideas, concerns, disagreements, and mistakes?

Are you a leader who listens? What are you doing to make sure all voices in your organization are heard? These things are vital to having a thriving organization.

You may recognize Stephen Shedletsky from his work with Simon Sinek. On this podcast, Shed defines a Speak Up Culture and talks about why it is important for leadership, business and the people within.

Howard Behar, former president at Starbucks and a key figure in establishing their culture, talks about his views on leadership, his time at the coffee giant, Uber, Lyft, Amazon, Whole Foods and a whole lot else.

Over the past several years, for multiple reasons, we’ve seen an upheaval in the workplace. Not least of which is the so-called Great Resignation.

But could the turmoil of the last few years result in better workplaces? Could business leaders really understand the value of caring for their people? Could we really see a massive shift from traditional management to Truly Human Leadership?

Dr. Alise Cortez thinks so. In fact, she thinks the time is ripe for a Great Revitalization.

Dr. Alise Cortez is an author, leadership consultant, an organizational logotherapist, the host of the Working on Purpose radio show and the Chief People officer at Dr. Alise Cortez and Associates. Alise has been on our podcast before, where we had a conversation about the insights she gained from leaders and their experiences in 2020.

On this podcast, Alise will talk about her new book, which is incidentally titled The Great Revitalization: How Activating Meaning and Purpose Can Radically Enliven Your Business.

You may have heard our CEO, Bob Chapman, say that the person you report to at work is more important to your health than your primary care physician. It sounds outrageous, but it underscores one of the profound truths we’ve discovered at Barry-Wehmiller: That the way we lead impacts the way people live.

The research to back it up can be traced to Dr. L. Casey Chosewood, the Director of the Office for Total Worker Health at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Learn more in this in-depth discussion about wellness and work.

Jennifer Wallace recently wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal, "The Power of Mattering at Work" that was forwarded to Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman.

Jennifer has written a book that discusses the importance of mattering in children that comes out in August 2023, Never Enough: When Achievement Culture Becomes Toxic-and What We Can Do About It. Along with her friend, Sarah Bennison, Jennifer is trying to build The Mattering Movement, with the goal of helping people of all ages learn the skills and tools to enact meaningful social change by identifying genuine needs, big or small, and to recognize the unique value that each individual can bring to the world.

Bob and Jennifer struck up a conversation because of their similar interests in the idea of mattering. Bob invited Jennifer and her friend, Sarah Bennison to visit a couple of Barry-Wehmiller facilities. After their visit, they had a conversation with Bob and Mary Rudder about the idea of mattering, which is featured on this episode of the podcast.

“Today, leaders need to recognize the impact work has on peoples’ overall life satisfaction. It is an antiquated belief that leaders should focus solely on the professional side of team members’ lives. Work needs to be a positive influence, given that it consumes much of our waking time. The work we do and how we feel about it shapes our identity. Leaders have a responsibility to help their teams understand the importance of their work."

On this podcast, find out more about what "The Optimistic Workplace" is in an interview with author Shawn Murphy.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute is Barry-Wehmiller’s consulting arm that helps other companies and organizations through what we have come to call a Truly Human approach to business.

They can help companies hire the right people, inspire them through a thriving and inclusive culture, develop and support your leaders and create stronger customer loyalty.

Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat are the leading partners of Chapman & Co. On this THL Refresher, we’re going to bring you a couple of individual talks given by Sara and Matt that discuss their personal leadership journeys.

Bill Ury is the co-founder of Harvard’s Program on Negotiation and is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. Trained as a social anthropologist, Bill has carried out his research on negotiation not only in the boardroom and at the bargaining table, but also among the Bushmen of the Kalahari and the clan warriors of New Guinea.

On this podcast, Bill shares his unique perspective on how empathetic listening can make a difference. Not just across a negotiation table between world powers, but in our day to day interactions with people. He also has a conversation with Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman.

One of the cornerstones of Truly Human Leadership is that everybody wants to know that who they are and what they do matters.

Someone else that came to that same insight in a scholarly manner, through his experiences and his research, is Professor Isaac Prilleltensky. He, along with his wife, Ora, wrote a book on the science and importance of mattering: How People Matter: Why it Affects Health, Happiness, Love, Work and Society.

You can find our more about the Professor, his work and his book on his website: professorisaac.com

On this podcast, we talk about the science of mattering, the poverty of dignity in the world, the importance of listening, moving from a me-centric culture to a we-centric culture and we also talk about how all this relates to the work place and how leaders can apply the science of mattering to those within their span of care.

This is such an important discussion, you’ll want to go back and read the transcript of this conversation on our website, trulyhumanleadership.com.

It’s been almost eight years since the publication of Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family by Raj Sisodia, one of the founders of Conscious Capitalism and Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman.

It’s the story of Bob and Barry-Wehmiller’s journey from traditional business thinking to Truly Human Leadership. All these years later, people are still discovering the book and are touched by the story.

Around the time of Everybody Matters’ release, Bob and Raj did a number of interviews talking about why they wrote the book and what they hoped to accomplish by writing it.

At the start of every new year, many people make New Year’s resolutions to get in shape. They join a gym, go on a diet. But do we ever think about what shape our leadership is in and do we take steps to change it? On this podcast, David Vandermolen talks about the shape of leadership and offers tips on how you can improve yours.

Matthew Lee, Baylor professor and Research Associate at the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University and Brian Wellinghoff, Barry-Wehmiller Director of Strategy, Improvement and Culture, recently had the opportunity to speak at the Humanity 2.0 conference at the Vatican.

This conference gathered distinguished academics, researchers, philanthropists, and business leaders around the question: “How do we promote human flourishing in our world?”

On this podcast, we feature a conversation between Matthew and Brian about this event and it's importance. You'll hear about the idea of human flourishing as it pertains to business education and you’ll hear how Barry-Wehmiller fits into this work.

Rightsizing, de-layering, business re-engineering, streamlining the organization…these are a few of the more current terms for the conventional business practice of eliminating jobs to improve profit.

You rarely hear anyone talk about the impact on the lives of the individuals and the family members of those laid off after sending them home with damage to their self-worth and a dramatic loss of income. Rarely do they consider the impact on those who remain in the organization.

On this podcast, we look back at Barry-Wehmiller response during the recession of 2008-2009 where many companies were laying people off. It was a time of shared sacrifice, but we came through it stronger and more dedicated to our beliefs. Just as a caring family would.

We first talked to Mark C. Crowley in May of 2021 when people were starting to return to the office amidst a global pandemic that transformed the remote work paradigm in 2020

Around that same time, something called the Great Resignation was happening and just starting to garner attention. According to a report by the BBC, in 2021 an average of nearly 4 million people left their jobs each month.

On this week’s Truly Human Leadership podcast, Mark and talks about the state of the workforce since the Great Resignation began, if it is still happening, how leaders should respond and other issues brought about by this long-simmering reckoning.

Our friend Lynne Twist is a global visionary and pro-activist committed to creating a future that is environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, and socially just.

Lynne has written a new book, Living a Committed Life: Finding Freedom and Fulfillment in a Purpose Larger Than Yourself. Its stories demonstrate how a commitment to a purpose larger than yourself can enliven and empower, enable you to see new possibilities, turn breakdowns into breakthroughs, engage in effective action, and draw on resources and capacities you may not know you have.

This podcast, is a wide-ranging conversation on the nature of purpose, the importance of purpose in business, and how it can help us turn this world from me-centric to we-centric.

Building trust requires constant, authentic communication. Communication is not just about words; it is also based on actions. Every action communicates something to the people in an organization. Too many companies say one thing and do another, breeding deep cynicism among its people over time.

This THL Refresher podcast features a discussion on the nature of trust and how to build trust in your organization with the Leadership Freak, Dan Rockwell, and Matt Whiat and Sara Hannah of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

In 2009, at the age of 20, Kristen Hadeed started Student Maid, an all-student cleaning company that grew to employ more than 400 college students in two cities. In 2021, she took the lessons learned from that experience and moved fully into leadership development.

This was our first interview with Kristen, originally from 2016, but she had a prescient insight into the causes of today's "Great Recession." She has been part of a growing generation of leaders who are helping to highlight the sense of meaning and purpose that millennials are looking for in their work.

In other words, like everybody else, they simply want to know that who they are and what they do matters.

Who heals the healers is a question Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman asked in 2019, long before the COVID-19 pandemic. Today, the need for better leadership in healthcare has reached a breaking point. Healthcare professionals are suffering from burnout and other mental health issues and are leaving the profession in droves. On this episode of our podcast, healthcare industry vets Paul DeChant and Bruce Cummings talk about their efforts to reverse the dramatic trends.

Recently, our CEO, Bob Chapman, spoke to a group of recent Barry-Wehmiller hires in our St. Louis office. Bob gives a good overview of the history of our company, the development of our culture of Truly Human Leadership and how we are trying to trying to change the world. We decided to share this talk on this podcast in the hopes that it would be as inspiring to you as it was to the team members in that room.

Many people think of customers as existing externally from an organization, someone who pays for goods and services. We at Barry-Wehmiller feel that anyone becomes a customer at the moment we have an opportunity to serve. A culture of service is culture with a shared purpose where everyone is focused on meeting the needs of others inside and outside the organization.

Our friend Bob Burg is an author and speaker who has taught true customer service to hundreds of thousands of people with his book, The Go-Giver. On this podcast, he gives is thoughts on how to treat customers in a Truly Human way.

On this THL Refresher, we bring you the first interview we did with Richard Sheridan, the CEO and Chief Storyteller of Menlo Innovations. Menlo is a company that builds custom software, whose mission is to “end human suffering in the world as it relates to technology.” Like Barry-Wehmiller, Menlo has a unique culture which they want to share with the world.  We call it Truly Human Leadership, they call it “the business value of joy.” Rich talks with us about leadership, Menlo and his book, "Joy Inc."

Barry-Wehmiller is a $3+ billion global supplier of manufacturing equipment to a variety of industries. Our companies build machines that help our customers bring their products to the world.

So, how does a company that builds manufacturing equipment and measures success by the way we touch the lives of others and is trying to build a better world approach environmental sustainability?

This podcast features a conversation with Carol O’Neill, the Group President of Packaging for Barry-Wehmiller and Michelle Bryson, Global Sustainable Packaging Leader for BW Packaging Systems. They talk about how our values shape the way we approach environmental sustainability and the journey we are on to be a better partner to our customers and to the planet.

Michael Pirson is an Associate Professor of Management, Global Sustainability, and Social Entrepreneurship at Fordham University and Research Fellow at Harvard University.

Michael is also part of a group comprised of business leaders and professors from around the world that wants to transform business education into institutions that foster human-centric leaders who honor individual dignity and demonstrate the courage to care for others.

Brian Wellinghoff, Barry-Wehmiller's Director of Strategy, Improvement and Culture, has led Barry-Wehmiller's support of this group. On this podcast, he talks with Michael about humanistic management, what it is and how they are working to Humanize Business Education.

As well as co-authoring the groundbreaking book with Whole Foods’ CEO John Mackey, Raj Sisodia is the co-founder and co-chairman of the Conscious Capitalism organization. A professor at Babson College, he’s written seven books and published hundreds of academic articles.

On this podcast, which reshares our first interview with Raj, he talks about Conscious Capitalism and the process of co-writing our book, Everybody Matters, with our CEO, Bob Chapman. Raj also about his own leadership journey and shares much of the thoughtful insight he’s written and spoken about around the world.

Recognition and celebration is one of the most important ways you can help everybody in your business feel like they matter. This episode is an audio-documentary taking you inside the creation of one of BarryWehmiller's recognition programs and inside a recognition event. The episode features Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman and a number of BW team members.

Darrin Tulley had a dramatic experience where he found out he wasn’t who he thought he was. He wasn’t the leader he thought was. And it completely changed his life.

Darrin is now the CEO and Chief of Possibilities at Ignite Happy. He has a new book out called Live Your Possible: Ignite Your Happy, Authentic Self and Live a Fulfilling Life Rooted in Joy, Inclusion, Love and Possibilities!

On this episode of our podcast, Darrin joins us to talk about work, about creating a more inclusive workplace, looking inward as a leader and he starts off by telling his story of transformation.

We want to help the generations of tomorrow become leaders who care, not managers who manage.

Sophia Town is an assistant professor of organizational behavior in the leading people and organizations area at the Gabelli School of Business at Fordham University.

Sophia’s classes are guided by the question: How can we use business education to develop compassionate leaders and build a flourishing world?

On this podcast, Sophia and Barry-Wehmiller's Brian Wellinghoff have a conversation about how we can infuse Truly Human Leadership in business education to better train the leaders of tomorrow.

Jane Adshead-Grant has been a very good friend to all of us at Barry-Wehmiller.

She has interviewed our CEO, Bob Chapman, on a number of occasions. She’s worked with us as a facilitator and she was instrumental in putting together Bob’s Truly Human Leadership tour in Europe in 2020.

Most of all, Jane is a tireless advocate for Truly Human Leadership in the world.

Jane has written several books and her most recent one is titled The Listening Coach: Coach Yourself Through the Elements of Listening That are Critical in Life, Business and our Communities.

And our conversation today will be about the power of listening.

Leadership Alliance was founded in St. Louis nearly 24 years ago and has evolved to support local and global businesses across multiple industries in pre-employment testing, executive assessments, leadership development, and succession planning.

Recently, Chapman & Co Leadership Institute Founding Partner, Matt Whiat, sat down with Leadership Alliance Partners, Karen Weller and David Weller to talk about a number of pressing issues in recruiting, engagement and retention in today’s world, including The Great Resignation, building culture over Zoom, remote work polices, how to approach interviews, and they also talk about the way they help companies find, develop and retain talent for the benefit of all involved.

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman and President Kyle Chapman talk about the company's past, present and future. They detail becoming a $3 Billion company, talk about the company's business strategy and journey to Truly Human Leadership. Along the way they show that businesses can operate with people, purpose and performance in harmony, not one in sacrifice of the other, while providing value for all stakeholders.

On this episode of our podcast, we'd like to share one of our CEO, Bob Chapman's, international virtual speaking events, where he shared our message of Truly Human Leadership with Conscious Capitalism Brazil.

No matter where you are in the world, everyone wants to know that who they are and what they do matters.

Peter Docker served for 25 years as a Royal Air Force senior officer. He has been a Force Commander during combat flying operations and has seen service across the globe. His career has spanned from professional pilot, to leading an aviation training and standards organization, teaching postgraduates at the UK’s Defense College, to flying the British prime minister around the world.

You may recognize Peter from his work with our friend, Simon Sinek. Peter worked with Simon for over 7 years and was one of the founding ‘Igniters’ on Simon’s team. He was a co-author of Find Your Why: A Practical Guide for Discovering Purpose for You and Your Team.

In December 2019, Peter stepped away from Simon’s team to focus on sharing his wider insights into how organizations thrive. He just released a new book, Leading From The Jumpseat: How to Create Extraordinary Opportunities by Handing Over Control.

This episode features an interview with Peter Docker and Sara Hannah, managing partner of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Family is a word that carries many different meanings for different people. When it comes to business, incorporating family is not always looked at as a good thing. But what if we treated those within our business, those with whom we worked as family? On this podcast, we explore the idea of family in business. Bob Chapman talks about how leadership is like parenting and we hear from actual family members who work together at BW Papersystems in Phillips, Wisconsin.

You may know David Mead, as the first of Simon Sinek’s “Igniters,” who helped share Simon’s simple, inspiring ideas through speaking and workshops to over 225 companies on 5 continents. David recently spoke on a webinar hosted by Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute: Behind the Curtain: How to Drop the Act and Lead With Character. Listen as David describes the traits truly human leaders have and think about whether you're emulating those things with those within your span of care.

Tim Sullivan, Barry-Wehmiller board member and recently retired Group President, Paper and Converting, talks about his leadership journey in our organization. Tim talks about the evolution of Truly Human Leadership in Barry-Wehmiller, including our response to the 2008-2009 economic downturn. Tim also talks about how a culture of Truly Human Leadership impacts the people within a business, as well as its customers.

A flashback to our first podcast discussion. Jacob Morgan, author, speaker and futurist, talked about the future of the workplace and the difference between leadership and management.

Menlo Innovations' Richard Sheridan has written two books on Joy in the workplace, "Joy Inc." and "Chief Joy Officer." But what happens to joy when your company is in crisis? How does a company built on interpersonal interaction with their customers adapt during a pandemic? Rich talks about the shift Menlo had to make during the past 15 months, what it means for the future and how impacted his ideas about leadership.

Seamus Lafferty is president of Accraply, a company that manufactures labeling machines and is part of Barry-Wehmiller's BW Packaging Systems comprehensive packaging solution platform. On this episode, Seamus' candid and honest talk shares insights about what it means to be a truly human leader, something that is a journey, lived day by day.

On this episode, Matt Whiat, the founding partner of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller’s leadership and culture consulting arm, discusses how leaders can balance emotion and logic for better decision making.

Matt explains how emotionally intelligent leaders make smarter decisions that inspire others to take action, build trust, and increase resiliency.

Author and “pro-activist,” Lynne Twist has worked to alleviate poverty and hunger and supported social justice and environmental sustainability. Her tenure as chief fundraising officer for The Hunger Project is among her many accomplishments, she helped raise over 200 million dollars. She is a passionate advocate of Barry-Wehmiller's listening skills training. This is a compilation of her two appearances on our podcast.

What if Truly Human Leadership was taught and ingrained in the consciousness of future leaders, before they are placed in a position of harming lives because they lack the tools to lead?

On this episode of our podcast, Ann Brock, Director of Student Leadership Development at Charlotte Latin School in Charlotte, NC, talks about their efforts to develop young leaders and how they have integrated aspects of Barry-Wehmiller's leadership training into their curriculum.

Harvard Business School professor and author Amy Cuddy, author Simon Sinek and Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman discuss leadership and culture after a visit to BW facilities in Wisconsin. To download or subscribe to the EverybodyMatters podcast via iTunes or other platforms, go to: https://www.barrywehmiller.com/blog/podcasts

This week’s Truly Human Leadership podcast is a conversation with Mark C. Crowley, a consultant, speaker, podcast host and author of the book, Lead From the Heart: Heart-Based Leadership for the 21st Century.

Mark talks about the lessons leaders have learned or not learned over the past year, along with other topics like leadership pre and post pandemic, mental health and the workplace, working from home, leading remote teams and much more.

Resharing the first episode of our podcast, that was formerly named "Everybody Matters." This episode was a sort of statement of purpose for what was to come. It features Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman's TEDx talk on "The Crisis of Leadership. It also features Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, who tells the story of how that TEDx came to be. It's a good companion listen to "What is Truly Human Leadership?"

74% of people say the workplace is the leading cause of stress. 54% of workers report that stress from work affects their life at home. 76% of US workers said that workplace stress affected their personal relationships. We need better leadership. Truly Human Leadership. But what is Truly Human Leadership? On this podcast, Bob Chapman, Simon Sinek and Barry Wehmiller team members answer that question and define a way of leading that could be a powerful force for good in the world.

Starting next week, the Everybody Matters Podcast gets a facelift and name change! It will now be called Truly Human Leadership, but don't worry, you'll still get the same great leadership content and insightful interviews as before, just wrapped in a bit different package. Host Brent Stewart explains it all in this 5 min audio.

Next week's episode is titled "What is Truly Human Leadership?" and it features Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman, Simon Sinek and more. If you subscribe on your favorite podcast platform, no worries, you shouldn't have to change a thing. For now, check out our recently revamped website: www.trulyhumanleadership.com

In an economy where choice is abundant and earning attention is a challenge, leaders need to be more intentional than ever before to drive true customer loyalty.

On this episode, Matt Whiat and Barry Kirk of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute, Barry-Wehmiller’s leadership and culture consulting arm, have an in-depth discussion on trends in customer loyalty.

Barry shares why most companies need to rethink their loyalty approach, how it relates to leadership, why your customer experience can never exceed your employee experience, and why the foundation of loyalty starts with understanding that, "Customers are human beings first."

Recently, a virtual book club hosted Bob Chapman to discuss his book, Everybody Matters. Bob answers questions about the book and talks about Truly Human Leadership in the world today.

Recently, Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, and his friend and co-author of Everybody Matters, Raj Sisodia, appeared in a webinar for the Boston chapter of Conscious Capitalism. Titled “Creating and Sustaining Caring Cultures,” Bob and Raj shared insights from their respective leadership journeys and discussed current events.

Dr. Alise Cortez, host of the Working on Purpose radio show joins this episode to talk about some of the insights from the crazy year that has been 2020. Things she's learned from the leaders she's talked to and leadership insights we hope carry into 2021.

There is a poverty of dignity in the world. How does this intersect with business and leadership and how can leaders change this? Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman starts off this episode talking about the importance of listening and it's connection to dignity. Then, Harvard Professor and conflict negotiator Donna Hicks helps us unpack what dignity is and how it can be restored and honored.

How often do we, as leaders, fully realize the impact our actions have on others? Do we have blind spots in our leadership that obscure behaviors hurting our people instead of helping them?

Find out how you can recognize and fill in the gaps of your leadership in this conversation with Harvard Business School Professor Amy C. Edmondson and Aaron Dimmock and Sara Hannah of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute.

Recently, Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, and his friend and co-author of Everybody Matters, Raj Sisodia, appeared in a webinar for the Boston chapter of Conscious Capitalism. Titled “Creating and Sustaining Caring Cultures,” Bob and Raj shared insights from their respective leadership journeys and discussed current events.

You may have heard our CEO, Bob Chapman, say that the person you report to at work is more important to your health than your primary care physician. It’s an amazing claim, but the research to back it up can be traced to Dr. L. Casey Chosewood, the Director of the Office for Total Worker Health at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Learn more in this in-depth discussion about wellness and work.

Fred Falker has pioneered a new way of thinking about diversity and inclusion, differences, and has a powerful and practical new approach to connecting with others. On this episode, Fred and Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute have an in-depth discussion about the work companies need to do to build more inclusive and collaborative cultures.

Part four, the finale, of our Higher Purpose Series. Hear what happens when companies embrace a higher purpose as a cornerstone of their business, featuring Gerry Anderson of DTE Energy and Bob Chapman of Barry-Wehmiller.

Articulating your higher purpose as a company can be difficult. It must be inspirational. It must unite your people. It must articulate the unique gift you bring to the world.

On this episode of the Everybody Matters Podcast, a number of experts and practitioners get into the nuts and bolts of getting started in finding and articulating your purpose. You’ll hear from Nick Craig of Core Leadership Institute, Stacey Tank of The Home Depot and Marc Braun and John Kramer of Cambridge Engineering.

Stuart Bunderson and Victor Strecher dig into the ways that having a higher purpose affects people within a business.

In part one of this “Higher Purpose Series,” two Truly Human Leaders look at having a higher purpose in business in a socio-economic context. You’ll hear from Bob Quinn, a professor emeritus at the University of Michigan's Ross School of Business and a co-founder of the Center for Positive Organizations, and Anjan J. Thakor, the John E. Simon Professor of Finance at Olin Business School at Washington University in St. Louis.

Kristen Hadeed, founder of Student Maid, talks with Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute about the challenges her business has faced during the COVID-19 pandemic and how they've been about to navigate the crisis without sacrificing people or principles.

Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co Leadership Institute interview Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman about he handled the 2008-2009 economic downturn and how those lessons can apply to today's business environment as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.

During exceptional circumstances, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, leaders and team members must adapt and change. Working remotely is one of those ways. How does leadership change in remote work? How can leaders successfully inspire and care for their tea virtually? On this podcast, Barry-Wehmiller Chief People Officer, Rhonda Spencer, and BWU Professor, David Vandermolen, give a thorough training to help those navigating new waters, and those who feel they're old pros.

From senior teams to frontline leaders, how you make decisions matters. To your people, to your business. Whether it's in this current time of crisis -- the COVID-19 or coronavirus pandemic -- or any other time your organization is having difficulty, there are practical tools Truly Human leaders use. On this podcast, Sara Hannah and Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute present a deep dive for leaders to help them act with compassion, communicate with clarity and make decisions intentionally.

To get trust, you have to freely give it.

This is a tough concept for many people. It’s the opposite of what we normally think. We think of trust as something to be earned. We’ll trust someone when they give us proof that they can be trusted.

But being a leader often means going against conventional thought and reaching out to give when others would grab.

Trust is going to be essential during the exceptional circumstance the world finds itself in right now. Leaders will have to trust their people and vice versa.

On this Everybody Matters Podcast, Matt Whiat and Sara Hannah of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute (formerly BW Leadership Institute) had a discussion on the true meaning of trust with Leadership Freak, Dan Rockwell.

In 2008-2009, our businesses faced significant challenges in an economic downturn. It was completely different than the situation companies are facing today, but the moral of the story is how we responded to a time of crisis. We asked ourselves:

How would a caring family respond?

When your culture is that of a caring family, everyone pulls together in a crisis. Culture is who you are on your worst days.

As our CEO, Bob Chapman, says, "Who you are is shown in tough times, not good times."

This episode of the Everybody Matters Podcast tells the story of how we dealt with a time of crisis and came out of it stronger. Hopefully, it can be an inspiration through a time of uncertainty to leaders who are struggling in making their own decisions right now.

Jacob Morgan recently interviewed more than 140 CEOs and leaders to define The Future Leader. Jacob joins us on this episode to talk about the future of leadership and how that applies to business.

Is your organization ambidextrous? Is your leadership constantly looking for ways to change and evolve? On this episode, Dr. Eric Zabiegalski talks about his book, The Rise of the Ambidextrous Organization.

The final of a three-part series, Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman answers your questions! Followers of our social media accounts submitted questions for Bob on leadership, education and he gives advice to current leaders.

Part two of Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, answering questions submitted by our social media audience.

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman answers your questions! Followers of our social media accounts submitted questions for on leadership, professionalism, communication and many other topics. Hear what Bob has to say.

When we show up in a manner that is life-giving, rather than life-draining, it creates the space for you and others to do their best, be their best. Anese Cavanaugh returns to the Everybody Matters Podcast to talk about how you can be that kind of contagious leader.

Matt Whiat of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute talks about feedback. Why should we give feedback? How should we give feedback? What kind of feedback is the most constructive? He also provides exercises on how to give constructive feedback to use in your everyday leadership journey.

Lisa Waite, a professor in communication studies at Kent State University, who teaches a course titled Business and Professional Communication, discusses incorporating Barry-Wehmiller's empathetic listening curriculum and CEO Bob Chapman's TEDx talk into her college courses, as well as the effect it has had on her students and their leadership skills.

Astonishing outcomes result from helping the people in your business or organization feel valued, wanted and welcomed. Good leadership does all those things. Shawn Murphy, author of Work Tribes, joins the podcast to talk about belonging in the workplace.

Raj Sisodia and Michael Gelb have a new book, The Healing Organization. It's not about the business of healing, it's about business as healing. It's about business as a force for good, not destruction. Raj and Michael talk about their new book and tell some of the stories contained within on this episode of the Everybody Matters Podcast.

Cynthia Bayuk-Bishop became a student of Barry-Wehmiller's Truly Human Leadership and listening skills curriculum when she was trying to change the atmosphere and culture of her school district. Now, she's teaching those same skills to middle and high school students. Listen to the story of how she's trying to change the world by teaching teenagers how to listen.

Dr. Rosie Ward joins the podcast to talk about how the workplace affects wellbeing and what leaders can do to help their people and their business.

Is the workplace killing us? What are the links between the workplace and wellness? These are some of the issues addressed by Stanford professor and author, Dr. Jeffrey Pfeffer and Barry-Wehmiller CEO, Bob Chapman, in an edited presentation of a webinar hosted by Vitality.

Jane Adshead-Grant, a leadership mentor and coach who works with the BW Leadership Institute, shares the challenges her clients face in a changing corporate landscape and they keys to overcoming them.

How do you grown and sustain a culture of people-centric leadership in more than 200 locations across the globe? Rhonda Spencer, Barry-Wehmiller's Chief People Officer talks about how we try to do that in our organization and about her role as the steward of our company's values. Along the way she shares some of the nuts and bolts of how we put the big ideas of our CEO, Bob Chapman, into practice.

Kris Schaeffer has been helping to create moral and conscious cultures in business for more than 40 years. Kris shares insights and lessons from throughout her career and discusses a Conscious Capitalism "Sight Visit" to a Barry-Wehmiller facility.

Michael Gelb started his career as a juggler who performed on stage with Bob Dylan and the Rolling Stones. That skill led to a whole new world of research, coaching and writing about how genius thinking can facilitate better personal, organization and leadership development. Michael truly believes business can be a force for good in the world and he talks about how creativity can help people in the workplace feel like they matter.

The football program of Kimberly High School in Wisconsin has a 100-6 record in the eight years Coach Steve Jones has been head coach. However, Coach Jones doesn't talk to his players about winning, but what it means to be a winner. He credits the culture of servant leadership in his football program as the reason for their success. On this episode of our podcast, Coach Jones talks about that culture of leadership and how it relates to leadership in business or any organization.

One of the most powerful things we can do as leaders in business or other organization is to stop seeing the people within our span of care as objects or functions. They're people. David Vandermolen of Barry-Wehmiller University talks us through realizing this in our own lives.

A look at how Barry-Wehmiller uses the principles of Lean to eliminate frustration, not waste at work and send people home more fulfilled.

Note: This episode of the Everybody Matters Podcast was originally posted in Nov 2015. We recently discovered that the episode stream had a number of technical issues, including lost information that left the episode incomplete. We're taking this opportunity to repost the entire, complete episode without errors.

Rich Sheridan returns to the Everybody Matters Podcast to talk about his new book, Chief Joy Officer. Hear why Rich think joy is an essential part of leadership and how it can revolutionize your business and life.

Betsy Myers has served in two White House administrations and is a author, speaker and consultant. Betsy joins the podcast for an analysis of where business leadership stands right now. Think of the conversation as a report card of the progress those of us are who are trying to change the way businesses and organizations lead their people have made and what needs to happen to move our efforts forward.

Jane Adshed-Grant, of the BW Leadership Institute, conducts an interview with Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman on the need for a "Human Revolution" in business.

Dr. Ken Druck talks about how empathy can create a compassionate workplace.

Marc Braun and John Kramer of Cambridge Engineering talk about their leadership journey, to become and maintain a people-first business.

Bob Burg, author of "The Go-Giver," talks about influence and leadership.

Stanford Professor and author Jeffrey Pfeffer talks about the workplace is one of the leading causes of the healthcare crisis.

What are the essential things a leader needs to effectively care for the lives they are entrusted with everyday? David Vandermolen of Barry-Wehmiller University returns with an answer!

At the start of every new year, many people make new year’s resolutions to get in shape. But do we ever think about what shape our leadership is in and do we take steps to change it? David Vandermolen talks about the shape of leadership and offers tips on how you can improve yours.

A year ago, a video of Simon Sinek talking about the millennial workforce went viral. Issues and stereotypes of millennials in the workplace still remain, so on this episode of the Everybody Matters Podcast, two millennial teammates in the BW Leadership Institute discuss their experiences and give more clarity to the leadership of this new generation.

The second part of our 50th episode conversation with Bob Chapman, where he covers a number of topics, including "What makes a great leader?"

Bob Chapman returns to the Everybody Matters Podcast to celebrate our 50th episode with a two-part discussion of the early days of our company and the leadership lessons it provided.

Conscious Capitalism co-founder Raj Sisodia returns to the Everybody Matters podcast to discuss his view that conscious leadership in business can be a force for good. And it can also be a healing force in the world.

Millennial entrepreneur Kristen Hadeed talks about how the mistakes on her leadership journey and how it made her a better leader while developing her business Student Maid.

Relationships create trust and help create a feeling of safety in the workplace. But how do we keep our teams connected with so many barriers? How do we connect them to a shared purpose?

Dr. Anita Sanchez, author of "The Four Sacred Gifts" joins the podcast this week to talk about how indigenous wisdom relates to leadership, diversity, inclusion and positive hange.

Rich Diviney, former Navy SEAL and now part of the BW Leadership Institute, talks about Trust with BWLI Partner, Matt Whiat.

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman brings his message of Truly Human Leadership in business to the Aspen Ideas Festival.

Howard Behar, former president at Starbucks and a key figure in establishing their culture talks about his views on leadership, his time at the coffee giant, Uber, Lyft, Amazon, Whole Foods and a whole lot else.

Frank Eichhorn of W+D, a recent entrant into the Barry-Wehmiller family tells a poignant story of how the German company decided to trust in their people to move their business forward.

Gregory Bulanow, Fire Chief in North Charleston, SC talks about how a listening class has become some of the most important training in his department.

Leslie Peters, author of "Finding Time to Lead," joins Sara Hannah of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute to talk practical tips for leaders.

Mike Budden and Bryn Morse believe business can be a force for good. Hear how they're using Truly Human Leadership to touch lives in their home country of South Africa.

Lynne Twist rejoins the podcast and to talk about how business can be a force for good in the world.

Harvard Business School recently published a case study on Barry-Wehmiller. Its authors, Jan Rivkin and Dylan Minor join us this week to talk about the case, why they chose Barry-Wehmiller and why its important for the world of business.

John Foppe, speaker and author of "What's Your Excuse?" was born without arms. Hear John's inspiring story as he redefines challenges and limitations.

Box of Crayons' Michael Bungay Stanier, host of the Great Work Podcast, talks about how leaders can be better coaches and why coaching is important to help everybody in a workplace feel like they matter.

The recession of 2008-2009 was a test for Barry-Wehmiller and its people-centric principles. Hear CEO Bob Chapman and other team members talk about this challenging time, how the company and its people responded and lessons learned.

Matt Whiat of the Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute talks about the work they has been doing over the past year and presents his TEDx talk, the Insanity of Leadership.

On this episode, we feature Chapter Five from the audio version of Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia's book, Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring For Your People Like Family.

Does emotion and caring have a place in business? Of course. Conscious Capitalism co-founder Raj Sisodia and Nilima Bhat discuss their new book, Shakti Leadership.

Pete Carlson, president of Barry-Wehmiller's BW Integrated Systems company shares his leadership journey through the manufacturing industry.

Sara Hannah of Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute and Dwight Perry of Perry International talk leadership, empowerment and people.

Chris Reimer, author of "Happywork" discusses the real ROI when everyone truly feels they matter at work.

Steve Kemp, former president of Barry-Wehmiller's PCMC company in Green Bay, WI shares his personal story of his company's transformation through Truly Human Leadership.

Chapman & Co. Leadership Institute's Sara Hannah details her leadership journey and talks about the "choice" of leadership.

John Quinn of Engle Martin shares a fascinating story of his leadership journey in the insurance and claims industry. A great example of how Barry-Wehmiller's cultural and leadership principles can apply outside of industrial manufacturing.

Bill Ury, negotiation expert and author of "Getting To Yes" discusses how empathetic listening can make a difference between world leaders and in our day to day life.

Dr. Jerry Zandstra of Inno-Versity talks about the importance of learning and training in the workplace and how it contributes to a culture where everybody matters.

Barry-Wehmiller CEO Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia, co-founder of Conscious Capitalism talk about their book, Everybody Matters, in front of a live audience.

Kip Tindell, CEO of The Container Store, talks about how his company came to their people-first culture, how they implemented their Foundation Principles, their stakeholders and lots more.

As an entrepreneur under 30, Kristen Hadeed has a unique perspective on tomorrow's workforce. This week's episode is a discussion of what leaders should know about the generation already walking through their doors.