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Bryan and Ogun coming to you from a pub in Lisbon, Portugal! We discuss whether vegetarianism is biblical, which writers of the Bible were depressed, whether people should be able to live in whatever country they want to, and whether aliens are real. We were together for an episode for the first time in seven years, and had a blast trying some local craft beers. Stay tuned for the bonus music clip of local Fado music recorded on our way home from the bar.

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This week we explore a thought experiment in which everyone in the world has to press a red or blue button. If more than 50% choose blue, everyone survives. If less than 50% choose blue, only those who pressed red survive. What button do you press and why? Bryan and Ogun discuss this, plus long weekends, meeting Jesus, and a church drug scam. What button would you press? Tune in to hear our take!

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This week we discuss our go-to snacks! What is yours? Tune in to hear Bryan and Ogun's. We also discuss 'national revival' and whether the US was founded as a Christian nation. We also why uninformed voters are dangerous, and we close by exploring some Hindu principles.

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But isn't it? We also discuss whether we'd rather be very short or very tall, whether there is any person who always does what is right, and what we'd say to a room of college graduates.

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Bryan and Ogun discuss new holidays we'd like to create, whether God can read our minds, public Bible reading, the attempted violence at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and life as suffering. Tune in!

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We discuss the Gospel according to Pulp Fiction, what makes for the perfect spring day, and why and how we live in bubbles, separated from each other, and what can be done about it, if anything. Tune in!

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Bryan and Ogun discuss whether we would fly to the moon, how the views Artemis shared should inspire us, Doubting Thomas and the role of doubt in one's spiritual journey, and whether it's OK to depict a politician as Jesus. Plus, should elected officials be able to threaten genocide with impunity?

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leads to a dangerous mindset, and Palm Sunday. Grab a beverage and tune in!

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On our St. Patrick's Day episode, we discuss analogies for the Trinity while Bryan attempts to pour himself a Black and Tan. Is the 3-leaf clover, which St. Patrick used to teach the Trinity, a good example? What are better analogies? We also discuss whether peace can happen through strength, or if there are other paths to peace aside from violence. We also discuss what it looks like to develop a consciousness of contentment. It's a two-beer show, so grab a beverage, and tune in!

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Episode 335: You're Still Wrong by Pub Theology

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This week we discuss what we would want on an ultimate sandwich. We also discuss whether the Apostle Paul believed in penal substitutionary atonement, whether current political policies might be considered 'Christian', and whether God really needs or wants to be praised all the time. Plus: what kind of communion bread is the best?

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We are BACK! After a brief hiatus, the gang returns to talk about the Winter Olympics, some recent events, and the all important question of whether Jesus actually walked on water or whether the disciples even knew how to swim. You are not going to want to miss this episode - the most fun we have had on a show in a long time. Grab a favorite beverage and your ear buds, and tune in!

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This week we pay homage to Martin Luther King Jr, discussing some of his work and actions. We ask: what is the civil rights issue of our day? Is protesting at worship or disrupting church an OK thing? Where do you draw the line? And how does one discern what laws are right and good, and which ones should be broken in the name of justice?

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We discuss the tragic shooting by ICE in Minneapolis of an unarmed mother, how to focus when the news is constant and bad, how to expose evil without participating in it, and more!

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We are back! We discuss plans and hopes for the new year, wrestle with the question of evil, and the political nature of Epiphany. We also touch on events in Venezuela as well as religious beliefs that it is best to unlearn. Grab a favorite beverage and tune in!

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Episode 329: It's the Goddamn Story—Christmas Episode by Pub Theology

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This week we discuss what we are thankful for, as well as our favorite pie to eat at Thanksgiving. We also discuss John 3:17 and what it means to say God sent God's on into the world to save it and not condemn. We also discuss other ways of thinking, peaceful protest, and some wisdom from the Bhagavad Gita. Tune in!

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— what level of anxiety do you generally feel on a given day? We discuss our responses, plus what lowers that stress and makes us happy! We also discuss Jesus' admonition not to worry about tomorrow: good advice, or applicable only to people of privilege? We also discuss fear, political usage of Scripture, and more!

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Have you ever engaged with a random tester, someone possibly trying to phish you? How did that go? What is the difference between judging and discerning? Why are more women than men leaving evangelicalism? And how would you respond in an awkward social situation? We discuss it all!

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We wax nostalgic about favorite Halloween costumes of times past, as well as favorite candy - right now! What is your favorite? We also discuss the wisdom of ancestors, the evolving story of Christianity, harmful theology, and whether God has a religion. Tune in!

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The word 'Christian' was originally used as a slur against early Jesus followers. Today that term is problematic for different reasons. What is your own relationship to that moniker, and how has that changed over time? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss, plus much more!

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On this episode we discuss favorite books, the importance of reading (is listening to an audio book 'reading'?), and truth. Plus, why do Anne Frank's words from long ago resonate so strongly today, and why do immigrants get such a bad rap, considering the numerous biblical calls to welcome the stranger? We discuss!

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Would you cash a check from someone who has seriously hurt you? How much would it take for you to take the money from someone like that? Shannon sets a low bar, Ogun needs more zeroes. We discuss that, plus the theology of "seed faith," the call for the church to be prophetic in these times, and more!

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Shannon, Bryan and Ogun survive the rapture to discuss their own end-times experiences, reactions to the Charlie Kirk Memorial, James Baldwin on disagreement, and staying calm. Tune in! It's not Shannon's first rodeo, ahem, rapture.

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun are back! We kick off our fall season discussing fall, the Charlie Kirk tragedy, spite, and peacemaking.

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We discuss our favorite things to enjoy off the grill or smoker on a holiday weekend, whereby Ogun learns about pork butt. We also discuss the fusion of patriotism and Christianity, the comfort or terror one received as a child from the concept that "God sees all," and whether there is an unbridgeable abyss or chasm between ourselves and other people or other creatures. Tune in to our summer send-off episode!

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We discuss the metaphor of the "tricycle of faith": Scripture, tradition, and personal experience. Which of these three wheels is most important to you? Does it matter which of these serves as the front wheel, thereby steering the whole operation? Ogun and Bryan press this metaphor as far as it will go, until the wheels nearly come off. Tune in as we suggest other metaphors as well. We also discuss pickle ball and whether getting high can augment one's religious experience.

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Episode 317: We Need Better by Pub Theology

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Bryan and Ogun discuss a dairy farm run on Hindu principles: does their approach of free-range, non-violent farming approaches actually make the milk taste better and of higher quality? We discuss that, plus the death and funeral of Pope Francis, the role of doubt, and Pascal's wager.

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Our Holy Week episode! Bryan and Ogun are back to discuss everything from Palm Sunday to Easter: why did the people move so quickly from cheering Jesus on Sunday to calling for his execution on Friday? Was Judas a necessary cog in the plan for Jesus to die on the cross? If so, shouldn't he also be revered as a sacrifice? We also discuss Holy Week in Spain, where observances include grand processions and are much more public, as well as Holy Saturday, and what we can learn from this time of silence, absence and unknowing. Finally, we discuss the phone-less setting of the Masters, and the power of being present at such an event.

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Can you successfully pretend that any day is a Friday or Saturday? Shannon, Ogun and Bryan discuss whether time is just a construct, and what it means that "for the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." We also discuss how to manage worry in these challenging times.

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Shannon, Ogun and Bryan discuss which three apps on our phones we couldn't do without. A tough exercise! We also discuss whether Ash Wednesday is a counter-cultural observance. And given that Ramadan and Lent overlap a bit this year - what can Muslims and Christians learn from each other's practices? What prevents this from happening?

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Derrick Weston joins Ogun and Bryan to discuss what is making us happy lately, how a gratitude practice can create resilience in these times, and what helping or not helping the vulnerable says about our spirituality. Also on the show: Ogun continues his alcohol-free stretch, Derrick gets his Instagram hacked, and Bryan finally wins at Mario Kart.

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In light of the kayaker swallowed by a whale, Bryan, Ogun and Shannon discuss their own scary moments on or in the water. We also discuss the spiritual concept of water, the power of mantras, common sense, and testing God.

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Bryan and Ogun discuss our current news consumption, how we feel about the state of the nation, and how some folks are just "insulated with privilege." We also discuss cuts to certain programs like Lutheran Services, and whether, amid the chaos and disappearing funding, there is an opportunity for the church. Also, what would happen if we started to look at the world from a different angle?

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This week we discuss what should be included if God were to again come down and write something in stone. Would people listen? Would they even agree on what it said? We also discuss hopes and fears around the incoming administration, why we are quick to quote MLK but slow to follow what he said, and much more! Grab a warm beverage and tune in!

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Ogun, Shannon and Bryan discuss our favorite winter activities. Hint: they are not outdoor activities. We also discuss the wildfires in California and whether they could be seen or experienced as a test of faith. We also ponder whether love or hate creates a stronger bonding mechanism.

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun are back with their first episode of the year! We talk about new practices or ways of being we'd like to lean into in the year ahead. We also discuss Epiphany, and whether this date on the church calendar deserves more attention. Also, why isn't there more religious diversity in the US Congress?

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In our final episode of the year, Shannon, Bryan and Ogun discuss the holidays, Holy Spirit-led theology, love of neighbor, and human-supremacist theology. We also each attempt to describe our theology in five words, once we understand the question. Tune in!

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Can Ogun's Christmas tree survive a gust of wind? Ogun, Shannon and Bryan discuss Christmas trees, Black Friday, Advent and the incarnation. We also discuss having an AI device pray on your behalf - is this truly prayer?

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The holidays are around the corner, so we discuss tips for having a conversation around the Thanksgiving table with differing viewpoints. If Uncle Frank insists on contributing inflammatory comments, what do you do? When should you engage, when should you not engage? We also discuss how knowledge can reduce fear, and how justice happens. Tune in! It's our pre-stuffing conversation!

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And Then Came Wednesday: Ogun joins the show from the stormy Caribbean, and he and Bryan discuss life after the election results. We share how we are doing, what happened, and how to go forward. Actually we mostly just commiserate, and discuss why Trump is no King David. We also address the problem of misinformation and information silos, and whether it is possible to communicate with someone who lives in an entirely manufactured reality. Grab a beverage and tune in!

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On this election-day episode, Bryan and Shannon are day-drinking, and are yet preciously unaware of the disaster still to unfold. Tune in as we discuss our voting experiences, whether the Bible encourages people to vote, and imagining leaders who are brave, calm, and open toward others. We can dream, right? Tune in, and grab whatever beverage(s) are necessary.

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Derrick Weston joins Shannon and Bryan for our Halloween episode. Did people really used to pray for neighbors' deceased loved ones in exchange for food? Do kids in Iowa tell jokes, recite poems or dance for candy? And why are there so many phrases that sound biblical but aren't actually in the Bible? Finally, does God have a specific plan for each person? Tune in! Tricks and treats abound.

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It's our 300th Episode! This week we discuss experiencing fall and October, whether an earlier discovery of coffee would have impacted the formation of major world religions, and what it is like leaving one's denomination or religious tradition. We also talk about how to deal with information overload. Also, Ogun has discovered Early Grey tea.

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We discuss various American folk sayings as well as a saying from the Talmud: what wisdom is contained in such sayings that persist in a given culture? We also explore the Mayan creation story: what did such stories convey to the culture they arose in? What can they teach us today? We also discuss the recent severe weather, and the role of clergy in confronting misinformation in the church.

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We discuss the human propensity for nostalgia: why do we so often assume it was better "back then"? We also discuss going beyond the idea of nations, borders and ideologies, and whether it really is that simple. We also look at Oklahoma's pursuit of Bibles in schools—what could go wrong?—and reflect on October 7 one year later.

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While Shannon enjoys an espresso martini, we discuss lifestyle Scriptures, Birkenstock theology, and who has the corner on fundamentalism. We also discuss the differences between God and humans, as well as the concerning Seven Mountain Mandate fantasized about by Christian nationalists. We kick off with this: what's the least important thing that's most important to you?

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Episode 296: Never a Good Time to be a WomanWhile Ogun is on his colonoscopy prep day, we discuss how we'd prove we're from the future if we went back 1,000 years into the past. Shannon worries it would not go well for her, or for women generally. We also discuss doing greater things than Jesus, consequences vs intentions, and whether it is possible to perform an immoral act purely upon yourself. Tune in! Ogun believes it will all come out in the end.

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You know when you have all the pieces to make a great sandwich, but there's no mayo? You get upset. Ogun says it's not about the mayo. Shannon says it IS about the mayo. What do you think?We are back with our first episode of the fall! We discuss controlling our emotions, being yourself, and gratuitous displays of generosity. Tune in!

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by guest host Cameron Highsmith and friends live at the Wild Goose Festival in Asheville, North Carolina! Together they discuss routine, the nature of Scripture, and the limits of language. You don't want to miss this engaging, crowd-sourced episode!

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Shannon, Ogun and Bryan discuss the controversial remarks by Kansas City Kicker Harrison Butker at a recent college commencement ceremony. Are his remarks about women understandable given the context? Are they indefensible? What is the worldview that creates and supports such a perspective? We also look at the troubling text in 1 Timothy 2 which calls for women to be silent in the church. How are we to understand such a text today? Can one disagree with a text like this while still holding to a high view of Scripture? We discuss all of this, plus whether the church has a problem with authority. Tune in! It's our last episode of the spring.

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss the life and times of an AI Priest named Father Justin. How and why did things go wrong? Will there be future such attempts at integrating artificial intelligence with religion and spirituality? We also discuss the question of meeting a man or a bear in the woods, and whether pluralism is at risk in the US and beyond.

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This week Bryan and Ogun discuss the news of the move toward full inclusion of LGBTQ+ folks in the United Methodist Church: was it worth losing thousands of churches to finally arrive at this place? We also discuss media coverage of the campus protests, the slowness of justice, and co-opting praise songs.

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Shannon is back! We discuss the current college protests and whether teaching competition in education leads to war. We also discuss Russell Brand's baptism and conversion to Christianity, which he says will allow him to "leave the past behind." Can you ever truly leave the past behind? We also discuss the idea of Christian pluralism and the plan of trying out various religions to make sure your bases are covered.

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Bryan and Ogun discuss the challenge of finding work/life balance, especially when it comes to making time for one's spiritual life. A church in the UK is attempting short, 15-minute "micro services" to help people fit worship into their busy lives. We discuss whether this is an appropriate concession to our busy world, or caving to modern pressures. What is gained or lost in such a short gathering? We also discuss our modern addiction to plastic, and whether change might be on the horizon. Also, Ogun tries out his new Japanese whisky, with entertaining results.

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Ogun shares about the green monkey infestation on the island of Barbados, and we wonder whether we humans are the monkeys when it comes to planet Earth. In light of Earth Day, we discuss environmental challenges, whether AI will wipe us out to solve climate change, and what we are worried about most. We also discuss tax day, and whether taxes should be as low as possible, or whether we should be glad to pay for taxes in order to have a strong and stable society. Plus how film and movies are or are not like church.

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It's our Eclipse Episode! Shannon and Bryan share their eclipse experiences in Maryland and Michigan. We also reflect on religious views on the eclipse event, and what kind of meaning might be ascribed to such a celestial happening. We also discuss a new documentary which posits that Jesus was not just a vegetarian, he was the "OG animal activist." Shannon has thoughts. Tune in for some engaging lunar and zoological takes!

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Should Judas have held out for more money? In our pre-Holy Week episode we discuss whether people are more interested in being affirmed in their current beliefs than discovering the truth, and the problematic theological view known as supersessionism. Plus: was Saint Patrick a hero or something more sinister, considering how he treated folks who practiced the old ways of paganism? Also, we share our favorite candy bars.

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We discuss the role of animal chaplain, where someone will do pastoral care and funerals for those who lose a beloved dog, cat or goat. Is this a role the church needs to put more emphasis on? We discuss. We also compare Ramadan and Lent, talk about the Bible vs the Word of God, the emergent church, and whether cabbage is the new bacon. Plus: favorite Oscar moments. Check it out! It's the latest episode of PTLive.

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Shannon and Bryan discuss whether God appoints people to leadership positions at certain moments in history; cough—Donald Trump; we also discuss how good the church really is at forgiveness and extending grace, and whether trying to have faith over fear is a good thing. Also, we celebrate all things March, and discuss what space there is or should be in the church for wisdom and insights from other world religions. Yay March!

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Are you someone who creates a life plan? Or do you just take it one day at a time? We discuss that, as well as the Apostle Paul's chastisement of church members who are arguing and grumbling. When is complaining OK, and when is it a sign of a deeper issue? We also discuss the first of Martin Luther's 95 Theses, and the troubling rise of Christian nationalism. Also, just who are those folks Shannon wishes she could condemn to hell? Tune in to find out!

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Karl Marx said, “Philosophers seek to understand the world; the point, however, is to change it.” We discuss whether our tendency is to research, analyze and understand before making a decision, or if we are quicker to just act. And is there a difference between men and women on this? We also discuss our communication styles, as Ogun claims immediately to be passive-aggressive, as well as whether all the biblical commandments are necessary if they can all be summed up by "Love your neighbor as yourself." Another great discussion brewing—tune in!

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It's our Post-Super Bowl, Lent-Kickoff episode! We talk the halftime show, commercials, and in particular the Jesus "He Gets Us" ads. Are they a bait and switch? We also discuss Lent and Ash Wednesday, and Bryan learns that purgatory is no longer official Catholic doctrine. We also discuss heaven and hell in light of Bryan's colonoscopy experience. Lots of fun and banter as always, along with some theological exploration. Tune in!

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Shannon is back! We discuss whether society is moving further away from religion as it progresses, how our views of God have changed over the years, and what a 'religionless Christianity' might look like. Plus, Bryan doesn't know how to do voicemail, and is fasting before his first colonoscopy experience. What will they discover, in the end? Lots of fun and theological insight as always!

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A town in Ohio is suing a pastor for providing shelter for the unhoused. The town's name is Bryan, OH. Bryan and Ogun discuss the reasons the city may have for doing this, and why local businesses would be better off siding with the church than with the city. We also discuss the sins of our ancestors, and our shifting social media usage. Plus, Bryan breaks down how he has gotten off the mat after that devastating Lions loss in the NFC Championship. Plus, Ogun met Nikki Hayley??!

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Bryan and Shannon, sans Ogun, discuss the attempt by scientists to create social robots who can care for people experiencing dementia, among others. Can robots truly be social? We also discuss the concept of loneliness, whether it is always or ever voluntary, and differentiate solitude from being lonely. Also: did creation happen because was God lonely? Then finally, we discuss the cryptic notion of the "keys of the kingdom." What is that binding and loosing business all about, anyway?

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While Shannon enjoys a German beer called "Hell," we discuss being over the moon and lunar trivia. We also consider the law of reciprocity, and whether being generous with others tends to come back around? Finally, the conversation moves to deconstruction and whether Martin Luther King Jr's idea of nonviolence is realistic in a world at war. We might need more of that German beer to tackle this!

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What is the longest you've gone without food or water? The Bible says Moses went forty days and forty nights without either. We discuss that as well as the spiritual practice of fasting. And: could AI help us in our everyday lives, and should a public school religion teacher should be able to proselytize his students? Finally, yes, Bryan is obnoxiously elated about his football team.

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Rev. Dr. Melissa Allison joins Shannon and Ogun to discuss Christmas carols, Christmas theology, purity culture and the pagan celebration of Yule. Why has the obsession with sexual purity persisted in some forms of Christianity, a faith that celebrates an unwed teenage mother? Tune in for this special holiday episode!

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If someone said to you, "We need to keep Christ in Christmas" - how would you respond? We discuss that, plus a Pew survey that finds 7 in 10 Americans describe themselves as spiritual, while 10% say they are 'religious but not spiritual.' What does that mean? We also discuss the limits of free speech in the case of three university presidents, as Bryan and Ogun catch Shannon up on the news.

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Ogun breaks out the rum as Derrick Weston joins the show to talk about the idea of a cloud of witnesses as referenced in Scripture, and whether that applies to folks living or dead. Is it creepy or encouraging to imagine there are folks looking on? We also discuss the concept of hope and whether it is something that can inspire us to or deter us from taking action in the world. We also get into workplace Christmas trees, Christian privilege and more!

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A lively episode this week as we talk about armed church members, rules and TikTok Jesus! Should churches have an active shooter response plan? Should that plan involve guns? Would you follow a TikTok Jesus for inspiration and potential blessings? And are people more important than rules? We discuss it all over beverages. Tune in!

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Notably in the Gospel records, there are several times where Jesus admonishes his disciples saying, "Are you still so dull?" What do you imagine would prompt Jesus to say that to his followers today? We discuss that, plus imagination, the usefulness of thumbs, and Diwali.

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Shannon reveals that in her house growing up, there were basically three books: an encyclopedia set, War and Peace, and Bo Knows. Nietzsche says "Fear someone who has only one book." We discuss the idea of reading widely, of being told not to read certain books, and whether the idea of a 'biblical worldview' has merit. Plus: can we just not have to decide what's for dinner anymore??

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Recording on Halloween, Bryan tries on a few different masks as we discuss favorite scary movies, ghosts, dealing with criticism, and the journey. Plus Ogun has one more show to tell us about, and we decide all problems can be solved with a high enough ABV.

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This week we discuss celebrating Halloween as an adult, what humans can learn from dogs in the realm of love and joy, and whether God loves us each uniquely. We also solve the Middle East peace crisis with two simple things: Dogs and butter! Tune in! It's the latest rendition of Pub Theology Live.

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Shannon and Bryan are joined by special guests Derrick Weston and Anna Woofenden! We discuss their new book: The Just Kitchen: Invitations to Sustainability, Cooking, Connection, and Celebration. Show highlights: seeing the kitchen as a sacred space, discovering that small acts can make a real difference, sharing our favorite dishes to make, and oh yeah, that time Derrick poured boiling water on his foot. Tune in!

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We discuss useless inventions, prayer and the possibility of AI becoming truly conscious. What does it mean to say that the Spirit helps us pray in a language "beyond words"? Does artificial intelligence truly understand language, or is it just reading symbols and responding quickly through lightning fast computations in a way that appears to be understanding? If AI does become conscious, will it have a spiritual side, or even a soul? We might need a beer or two for this conversation! Tune in!

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We are back! Shannon, Ogun and Bryan discuss confidence, and why it seems so easy to lack it, and how one might gain it. We also discuss Yom Kippur and the power of communal religious practice, as well as the rise of religious rituals at Burning Man. Plus, our favorite breakfast cereals. Brace yourself!

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Recorded LIVE at the Wild Goose Festival! Ogun and Shannon are joined by Rev. Anna Golladay to discuss the human experience of belonging and community and why the church struggles with both. They also discuss how packing for a trip may reflect on one’s emotional baggage and inner life, and much more! You don’t want to miss this special episode recorded onsite with a live audience in North Carolina.

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In the age of mega-churches and wow worship services, is ordinary church still OK? If you had to choose for your child to have a long, but dull life or a short, but hugely impactful life, which would you choose? What do transportation and travel have to do with spirituality? And finally, if one has the Bible, does that minimize the need for other sources of learning and wisdom? Tune in! It’s our last episode before summer break. Next up, Wild Goose! Then back in the fall.

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What happened on that first Pentecost? Was the Holy Spirit truly available in a new way, or was it more like a shift in perception? Shannon and Bryan discuss this important date on the Christian calendar, plus principles of Hinduism and why humans prefer sounds that come from their left. Tune in!

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We discuss times we’ve been stuck or gone off the map. In this context, we discuss the Ascension of Jesus and the call for his followers to go “to the ends of the earth.” Before modern maps, where did they assume this meant? We also discuss whether belief in God is a prerequisite (or hindrance!) to moral behavior.

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Is humanity progressing or moving backward? One writer contends that ‘human progress, the myth of the modern age, is increasingly in doubt.’ Ogun counters that, stating that he believes in humanity, despite what’s often seen on the news. We also discuss May as National Masturbation Month, and how to seek a more sex-positive dialogue, especially in religious circles. And the most importantly: do you prefer pancakes or waffles? Check it out! It’s the latest episode of Pub Theology Live.

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This week Shannon and Ogun mock Bryan’s sport of disc golf as ‘not a real sport.’ We also discuss parents acting badly at kids sporting events, the solitude of being human and how love intersects with that, plus - what gives you goosebumps? We discuss!

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Shannon is back! She joins Ogun and Bryan to discuss what they would put on a billboard if someone gave them one for free, along with that one song from Switchfoot. We also chat about atheist street pirates who are keeping us safe from religious propaganda, and whether aging can or should be reversed. Tune in!

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On this week's episode, Bryan and Ogun discuss the Golden Rule and whether it is the highest relational ethic that exists. Hint: it's not. Tune in to discuss how to treat others better than golden, how to have good conversations, and what weird things houseguests have done.

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This week we discuss how churches can be more welcoming to folks who only attend on days like Easter, provisions in professional soccer to allow Muslim players to break their fast mid-game, and the chaos happening in Tennessee. Tune in!

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This episode we explore the NT scholarship that suggests Mary Magdalene may have been written out of a chapter in the Bible. We also heatedly discuss whether the technological evolution of humanity will render faith superfluous and mystery obsolete, all while Ogun updates us on his fasting for Ramadan, Bryan explains why there are chickens in his office and Shannon blesses the caffeine in her mug. Listen now!

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This week Shannon, Ogun and Bryan play two truths and a lie. Can they stump each other? They also discuss transcendent moments and where and how those seem to happen, plus personal spiritual practices and turning the other cheek. Bring your own beverage and tune in for some good conversation over a pint!

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Ogun finds a rare beverage in Morocco while Bryan explodes another past-due beer. Shannon joins us to discuss: Is the Pope willing (and able) to bring real change to the Catholic church on issues like same-sex marriage and clergy celibacy? Why has the idea of being ‘woke’ become such a political lightning rod? Does evil truly exist in the world, apart from the actions of people? And we discuss Aaron Rodgers’ darkness retreat and whether we would try something like that. Tune in!

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This week Ogun joins us from Casablanca, Morocco, Bryan’s beer explodes on him, and Shannon pops open an old standby. Amid all of that, we discuss favorite kinds of books, how the church can have standards without ugly gatekeeping, and whether Christianity is headed toward a new Reformation, or if the end is near.

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The gang is back! We discuss the reality that every person we meet is likely going through something difficult, we ask why anyone should care about the Asbury Revival, what is behind the racism of the Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams, and how there are still so many churches opposed to women preachers. Oh, plus Bryan shares his recent experience being on the jury for a murder trial. Tune in!

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Does beer ever go bad? Bryan tries to find out while the gang discusses spy balloons, having relationships across difference, objective truth, and whether God is always watching. We also discuss the text of terror that the Presbyterian Church USA used for an ordination exam for incoming clergy. Tune in!

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We discuss the ongoing crisis of police violence in light of the death of Tyre Nichols, and what needs to change. We also discuss whether God loves each of us uniquely—as if there were only one of us. Also, what does it mean to have faith, and is it true, as CS Lewis claims, that better things always lie ahead? Also, why are some Gen Z'ers ditching their smart phones for an old-style flip phone? Tune in!

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Is artificial intelligence advancing too rapidly? Students are now using Chat GPT to create unique essays for school and robots are also creating original art. Derrick Weston joins us this week, and he claims robots are advancing too slowly, and need to get their act together. What do you think? We also discuss the sovereignty of God and what it means to become new in Christ. Tune in!

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This week we celebrate Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by exploring some of his thoughts and ideas. King insists that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor, it must be demanded by the oppressed. Yet why is it that so often folks who are in the privileged majority are saying their freedoms are under assault? We discuss that, and so much more!

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Was Damar Hamlin’s recovery due to the power of prayer? Why does it take a tragedy to bring people together? Do you believe that witches or oracle readers can predict the future? And why do translations matter when it comes to reading the Bible? We cover all of this and more in our first episode of the year. Tune in!

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This week Bryan tries to Christmasplain Ogun on the true meaning of Christmas. And with Shannon back, we play Christmas Carol Trivia! Tune in to find out who wins. We also discuss whether folk saints will help Argentina win the World Cup. Don’t miss it! It’s our Christmas Episode Spectacular.

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While Shannon grabs an urgent phone call, Bryan and Ogun discuss the difference between "perks of the job" and misuse of one's position, exploring a recent incident in Florida as our test-case. We also explore the nature of prayer and whether there is a connection between attention and prayer. There's also talk of Christmas Carol trivia...

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What is your favorite Christmas album? While Ogun sips beverages on a beach in Barbados, Shannon and Bryan share their top four. We also discuss whether Advent is still useful and/or relevant, whether God makes promises that are too good to be true, and if prayer kicks God into action. Tune in! It's the latest episode of Pub Theology Live.

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This week we discuss pets, Powerball, total depravity, and "being who God made you to be." Maybe it's all just absurd. Or as Ogun and Bryan say it: obzerd. Tune in! It's the latest episode of Pub Theology Live.

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On our election week episode, we discuss how we are dealing with election anxiety, how voting could be thought of as a sacred act, and to what level churches and preachers should feel comfortable getting political. Finally, and most importantly, we ask: when is the right time to start listening to Christmas music? It's the latest episode of Pub Theology Live!

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We often wonder how we can bridge the gap between the divisions in this country, particularly on the brink of yet another contentious election. Is finding common ground a way to bring people together? Or is that notion overrated? We discuss that, plus whether ghosts are real, what gives us hope, and the nature of belief.

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In advance of Halloween and All Saints Day, we take a look at some ancient practices of Samhain, including dining with the dead, and share our favorite Halloween candy. We also discuss whether God has a plan and why some folks seem to develop a persecution complex.

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This week we discuss whether beards are a sign of biblical masculinity (short answer: No, also, what is biblical masculinity?), we dissect how Romans 8:31 can be used both positively and negatively, and whether citing "religious discrimination" is valid in a work setting involving reading books to children that promote same-sex relationships. Plus: which game show would you want to be on? We break it down in this latest episode of PT Live!

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This week we are joined by pastor and podcaster Mariah Martin! We discuss whether church is necessary to have a full and meaningful spiritual journey, what caused us to change our minds on an important issue, whether events are neutral, and honoring and celebrating our ancestors. Tune in! You don't want to miss this latest edition of Pub Theology Live.

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Did you know there are dragons in the Bible? Shannon seemed a little caught off guard. We discuss the meaning and imagery of dragons in various religious traditions, why October is a great month, whether a sin against the Holy Spirit is truly unforgivable, and why sometimes you just have to [insert eye roll here].

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What is the difference between teaching children the faith and indoctrinating them? Derrick Weston joins the show to discuss that, plus which food best represents our personality, how to talk about suffering, and why it's time to retire Columbus Day as a national holiday.

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WE ARE BACK! On this week's episode we ask: Is the second half of life simply about winding down and preparing for the end? Or is there more? We also discuss why Shannon hates chores, and how churches stepped up to help immigrants who were shipped out of state by a disgruntled politician. Tune in, it's the latest episode of Pub Theology Live!

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Do guns make us safer? Are they a symbol of strength and safety, or an icon of fear? We discuss the idea of gundamentalism, and what it might take to curb the onslaught of gun violence in this country.

We also discuss the Ascension of Jesus, Pentecost, and more. It's our summer kick-off episode!

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Ogun and Bryan discuss the Buffalo shooting and the underlying white supremacy and racism that motivated this horrific event. We explore ways to take action to educate, address and ultimately eradicate such ideologies. We also ask whether the Bible is helpful in addressing racism.

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On this week’s episode, we welcome Shannon back from Scotland and discuss the big happenings while she was gone, most notably the pending challenge to Roe v. Wade. Why is the US uniquely fixated on this issue, and what does it really mean to be pro-life? We discuss all of that and more!

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We discuss current threats to the planet, the role of faith communities in creation care, and various ways of viewing the resurrection. And you don't want to miss: we kick off the show sharing the dumbest ways we've been injured.

Tune in! It's our post-Easter episode.

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In our Holy Week episode, we ask why foot washing hasn't caught on, despite Jesus' explicit call to wash one another's feet. We also explore the figure of Judas, whether he is unfairly maligned, and how he might be a reflection of ourselves. Finally, we share what meaning(s) we you attach to Jesus death and to his resurrection. And surprising no one, Bryan says black jelly beans are the best Easter candy.

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Bryan walks into a conversation between Derrick and Shannon about Palm Sunday and whether Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem was triumphant. We also ask what people will be nostalgic for in forty years and consider the founding of Islam. Tune in! It's our pre-Holy Week show.

And yes, Bryan’s audio improves after a rough start.

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We react to the Will Smith - Chris Rock altercation at the Oscars. Who is to blame? Who wins and who loses? Plus, time travel vs teleportation, and how to have difficult conversations well.

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We discuss bad life decisions, controlling the Scriptures, and spirituality at the doctor’s office. Plus, how do you bridge the gap from intention to action?

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Is it possible to be too positive? What is the difference between negative thoughts and negative feelings? We discuss, and also explore compassion fatigue, when it feels hard to care anymore. Finally, are we in control of anything, and what might youth ministry look like going forward? It’s a jam-packed hour of good conversation.

Bonus: what famous movie have Ogun and Bryan never seen?

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This week we discuss Jesus in the desert and whether he could have made a good sandwich out of those stones or turned them into a cold beverage. We also discuss whether we would submit ourselves to an artificial utopia or ride in autonomous vehicles. And will some strong political statements by Ukrainian religious leaders make a difference?

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On our "welcome to Lent" episode, we wonder whether asking anyone to give something up for Lent is redundant given the last couple of years. Also, Shannon learns what a pączki is, and we discuss the ongoing situation in Ukraine.

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On this episode, fittingly recorded on 2-22-22, Ogun, Shannon and Bryan reflect back on favorite Winter Olympic events, the influence of religion, the power of hope, bad campaign slogans, plus a few rabbit trails, including a dead rabbit. Tune in! It's our Super Twosday episode.

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Layton joins the show and we discuss the validity of Valentine’s Day, Super Bowl highlights, religious litmus tests, and whether there is a contrast or deep connection between the cross and the lynching tree.

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It is Black History Month, and we discuss evangelicalism and abolition, equality, white Jesus, and how the Nazis used US slavery and segregation practices as their model for how to separate people.

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Would you take spiritual instruction from a robo pastor? Do we spend too much time online? Is it time to scrap online services? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss all of the above in this latest episode of Pub Theology Live!

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What does the reality of things like earthquakes and pandemics say about God? This week Bryan, Ogun and Shannon discuss the problem of evil, the role of citizenship in discipleship, and the passing of Thich Nhat Hanh. Also, Wordle!

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Ogun is back, and rejoins Shannon and Bryan to reflect on the life and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr, including some lesser known tidbits. We discuss the courage it took for him to stand for his convictions and ultimately what it cost him. How far are you willing to go for what you believe in?

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Bob Saget encouraged us to choose to be happy. Sidney Poitier inspired us to become better. Amy Piatt joins Bryan and Shannon for a fantastic conversation as we reflect on these two and their words, as well as what meaning can be found in the baptism of Jesus. Tune in! It’s Episode 215 of PTLive!

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What is the most meaningful part of Christmas for you? Bryan, Ogun and Shannon share their thoughts, make merry, and explore what it means for God to be born in us. Enjoy our Christmas week episode!

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When lost, are you an “ask for directions” or “just keep going” kind of person? Is the type of middle class life portrayed on the Simpsons still possible today? And what kind of Christmas present would Jesus ask Santa for? Derrick Weston joins Bryan and Shannon to discuss!

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Shannon floats a new theory as to why Zechariah was struck mute by the angel, Ogun shares why he was fired once, and a plumber finds cash behind a toilet at Joel Osteen's church. Also: are parents liable for the bad behavior of their children? Tune in! It's Episode 212.

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Is humanity changing for the better? Do the Scriptures provide us with a template for perfecting ourselves? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss on this week's episode. Also: when is the right time to put up a Christmas tree and listen to Christmas music? We break it all down. Tune in! It's Episode 211 of Pub Theology Live.

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What are the limits to providing a platform for troubling viewpoints? Does every voice deserve to be heard? Every opinion? We discuss the blessings and curses of technology, Thanksgiving favorites, whether hemorrhoids constitute a proper prayer request, and more!

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This week we discuss the battle between religious freedom and public health & safety. Should churches support vaccine or mask mandates? What does it take to stay alive? And what is going on with Aaron Rogers?

We discuss that, plus our favorite ways to waste time. Tune in!

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What in the world is purgatory and why did it feature prominently in Martin Luther's 95 Theses? We take a to-ur, aided by a of couple saints and legends, and discuss the post-mortem waiting room, plus the role of technology in the Reformation.

Plus, what would you post on a church door today?

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Is Halloween simply a Satanic celebration of candy for freeloaders? Would you go through an insane haunted house for eight hours if someone paid you to do it? And what is the scariest story in the Bible?

We discuss all of this and more, plus which Halloween candy is the best. Tune in for screams and giggles, it's our 2021 Halloween Special!

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There's a new trend of camping in churches, called "champing." Would you want to sleep in a church? Ogun has thoughts. We discuss that, plus what we'd like to get better at, how life will look in 10,000 years, and whether intelligent alien life exists. Rev. Kelly Isola joins the show, and good conversation ensues!

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Bryan, Ogun and Eli discuss whether they'd prefer it to rain skittles or marshmallows, and how much money they'd have to be offered to consider playing a game that could result in serious harm or even death.

And in the middle of this Skittles and Squid Game sandwich they discuss the spiritual benefits of seeking balance and integration.

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss the bumper sticker: "If Jesus had a gun, he’d still be alive today.” Shannon and Ogun think it's an unwitting gun-toting NRA member who put this on their car, while Bryan thinks someone might be trolling said gun lover. Tune in for that and a lot more!

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We discuss our favorite meal, understanding God, and violence over COVID vaccines. Plus, did you know there are Jedi Senior Pastors? Ogun wants in.

The force is with this latest episode of Pub Theology Live!

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Bryan recounts a nearly traumatic experience while Shannon and Ogun talk him through it, while also discussing favorite things about fall, facing challenges, Lilith in the Bible, and the pursuit of happiness. So grab a favorite beverage and tune in!

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PT Live is back! Tune in as Shannon, Ogun and Bryan discuss parenting, what they wish was in the Bible, and whether folks are coming back to church. Also: did Mary and Joseph give Jesus enough space?

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During this live happy hour show, Bryan, Shannon, Ogun and friends celebrate reaching this milestone episode, hit some deep theological questions and share which biblical events they would like to be present for (you don't want to miss these). Also, what happens after we die? Tune in! It's the Episode 200 Extravaganza.

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If something at a yard sale is far more valuable than the posted price, do you have to let the seller know? If the church had a garage sale, what should it get rid of? What happened at Pentecost? And will there ever be peace in the Middle East? We discuss, and a bee decides to weigh in.

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Why are so many pastors burning out? We explore reasons behind the clergy exodus, technology, the Bible, and why there was a bird in Shannon's house.

Tune in!

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Should churches require vaccinations for in-person worship attendance? Will you take young children to church who are not yet vaccinated? Would you travel to space with a private company?

Ogun is ready to go to space. Then again, it was a two-beer episode.

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Would you rather go back in time or forward to the future? Can the simple act of gardening enact real change in the world? Is magic immoral? And why does representation matter in the church?

Derrick Weston joins Bryan and Ogun for a brew and some good conversation. Tune in!

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We give our reactions to the Derek Chauvin verdict and discuss the spiritual power of fire, the significance of making and owning mistakes, and Ogun shares a difficult online encounter.

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What is the best/worst part of a spring cleanup? Ogun shares why doing work around the house is overrated, plus we discuss Justin Bieber, police violence, and the prayer of a weary black woman.

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Rev Jason Chesnut fills on for Bryan on this post-Easter episode. We talk about Nature, vaccines, resurrection, church doctrine and reality.

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Some preachers are getting wealthy from preaching the gospel—should they be? We discuss the tensions around money and pastors, racism in light of the Atlanta shootings, and whether self-care is counter to Jesus call to sacrifice and service.

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We have some Saint Patrick's Day fun, discussing the saint himself, whether Bible stories were embellished, Beth Moore's move away from the Southern Baptist Convention, and more! Plus Shannon teaches Bryan how to properly pour a Black and Tan. You don't want to miss it!

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We have been living the pandemic life for over a year now. What do we miss from before? What will we take with us going forward? How has it changed us? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss this, plus why to delve into biblical scholarship, and challenges that women face in entering the ministry.

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Are we formed more by nature or nurture? What impact do parents really have on their children? And what is flapdoodle? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss that, plus “punching down” and why it has to stop.

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We discussion emotions, whether God or Jesus were ever moody in the Bible, the Buddhist doctrine of the non-self, and more!

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If you could have a conversation with any of the spiritual greats throughout history - who would you choose? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss that, plus life without the Internet and more!

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How do you bounce back after a serious disappointment? Is it OK to tell someone who is struggling: "Just bounce back?"

Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss this, plus favorite Super Bowl commercials, the NFL and Black Lives Matter, salvation, and more!

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Does God take a "hands-on" or "hands-off" approach to running the world? Are we in control of our own futures, or has everything been determined already? Is the notion of 'obedience' outdated? And perhaps most importantly: did Bryan survive his dry January?

Tune in to find out! Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss this and more!

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Have you ever been stuck in your faith? What happened? Or what would you recommend to someone who is?

And what do you do when someone changes the topic abruptly? And why might someone do this? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss—if they can stay on topic!

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Some say this is a time for healing, and that any talk of impeachment is too divisive. Others say that we can't have healing without truth and accountability first. Tune in as Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss and grapple with the events of the past week.

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun kick off the new year by discussing hopes for 2021, vaccines, truth and Epiphany. Plus, Bryan embarks on a dry January. Will he make it? Tune in!

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss broken bones, the meaning of Christmas, and Jesus' pre-Christmas existence.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rev. Layton Williams to discuss the right age to break the news about Santa, gifts they would want if there were no limits, and having choice.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston to discuss their excitement for Christmas, Advent and Christmas music, alien monoliths, and valuing human life.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss time travel, happiness, and prayer.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss their favorite parts of Thanksgiving meal, adjusting plans during the pandemic, and the unexpected gifts that COVID has provided.

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Pub Theology creator Bryan Berghoef joins Shannon and Layton Williams to discuss the things they are thankful for, the things they are lamenting, and how they are shifting their holiday plans in the year that just won't end.

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Shannon is joined by special guest Kelly Isola and Derrick Weston to discuss reactions to the election results, peaceful transfers of power(or not), and trying to talk across ideological lines.

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Ogun is joined by Keisha Mckenzie and special guest Rev. Eliza Tweedy to discuss the election and... well that's pretty much it.

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Ogun is joined by special guests Kirk Berlenbach, and Rabbi Eli Freedman for our annual discussion of the best and worst Halloween candies, Trick r Treating during COVID, election anxiety, and loving God and loving others.

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Ogun is joined by two special guests in this episode, the newly engaged show regular Layton Williams and super special guest Rev. Jason Chesnut. They discuss the best parts of October (not baseball), continuing to shift life in the pandemic, and what it means for us to belong to one another.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by the show's producer Derrick Weston to discuss apple cider, pumpkin carving, being open minded, and following the spirit of the law instead of the letter of the law.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss marking the change in seasons, wrestling with our own inner darkness, and praying for our enemies.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss skills they have (or have not) picked up since the pandemic began, emotional and spiritual bypassing, and people who "know the whole will of God".

Also, listen carefully and you can hear Shannon resist making a joke about this being episode 169.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rev. Sam Chamelin from the Food and Faith podcast to discuss providing for the poor, the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and how her faith informed her life's work and friendships.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss sentient robots, underground pyramids, and changing history. Theology gets mixed in there somewhere.

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It's the season premiere and Shannon and Ogun are joined by PT Live founder and congressional candidate Bryan Berghoef returning to discuss human purpose, stressful work, and the nature of truth. You know, fluff. Sorry about the echoing!

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Ogun is joined by Derrick Weston and Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss grilling (not barbecue), observing Memorial Day in worship, why we don't talk about the Ascension, and Pentecost.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined once again by the Rev. Layton Williams to discuss their favorite ice cream and what they look for in good leadership in themselves and others. Apologies for the late post and for the sound quality in the first quarter of the show. It gets better. Promise!

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by the show's producer Derrick Weston to celebrate Star Wars day, explore favorite SW and Bible characters, discuss how they are keeping sane (?) and reflect on fears of "reopening".

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Ogun is joined by Rev. Layton Williams and Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss their favorite signs, of spring, vivid pandemic dreams, what it means to "believe the science", and what they want to see in the world when all "this" is "over" (apologies for the sound quality. blame Ogun's wi-fi)

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss the best and worst part of quarantine, being "over it", and what TV and books are getting them through.

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Ogun and Shannon are joined by Derrick Weston for this double-sized episode! They discuss their favorite parts of Holy Week, analyze some of the significant texts for the week and talk about the adjustments being made for quarantine. Also, a lot of beer is consumed.

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On this episode there is absolutely no discussion of COVID-19. April Fools! Shannon and Ogun are joined by the Rev. Dr. Melissa DeRosia to discuss the best coronavirus memes, quarantine guilty pleasures, and preparing for Holy Week.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by VERY special guest, Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss what things are we missing during the quarantine, whether this time is a spiritual retreat, and what from their tradition is keeping them grounded.

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Ogun is joined by regular guests Keisha McKenzie and Derrick Weston to discuss all things COVID-19. They discuss disruptions to their lives and schedules, adjustments worship services have made, and what scriptures and practices are keeping them grounded.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rev. Layton Williams to discuss COVID-19 protocols for church, updating the Ten Commandments, and what the cross means for them as a symbol.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston to discuss donuts... and then make a smooth transition to mortality and the coronavirus.

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Shannon is joined by Layton Williams and special guest R. Eric Thomas, author of "Here For It: Or How To Save Your Soul In America" to discuss awkwardness, generational identity, and what it takes to "make it" in our society.

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Shannon is joined by Keisha McKenzie and special guest Linda Kay Klein to discuss self care, body image, and purity culture.

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Shannon is joined by returning guest Rabbi Eli Freedman and first time guest Rev. Kirk Berlenbach to discuss favorite breakfast foods, loving our enemies especially in politics, and managing outrage fatigue.

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Derrick Weston joins Shannon and Ogun to discuss... everything. Favorite and least favorite states, Super Bowl halftime show, coronavirus, and christology. All. The. Things.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss the passing of Kobe Bryant, why certain celebrity deaths have more impact than others, and noisy kids in worship. (sorry this is late!)

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Ogun is joined by Rev. Layton Williams and Rabbi Eli Freedman to discuss their potential campaign slogans, the role of kindness in public life, and being mindful and attentive. (sorry for the late posting!)

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston as they discuss recovering from the holidays and evangelical support for potential war with Iran.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston as they discuss their least favorite parts of the Christmas season, Blue Christmas services, and getting back in tune with natural rhythms of darkness and light. Apologies for the sound quality, pretty sure Ogun's high-octane eggnog had something to do with it.

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Rev. Layton Williams joins Shannon and Ogun to discuss favorite and least favorite Christmas songs, whether there is a war on Christmas (spoiler: there is not), and the right amount of vodka to include in Layton's family holiday drink.

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Pub Theology creator Bryan Berghoef returns for this very special episode as he and Shannon teach Rabbi Eli Freedman about the meaning of Advent. Prepare to have your hearts warmed!

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss the best part of the Thanksgiving meal, what the holiday means to our indigenous brothers and sisters, and how we keep the aspects of community and family while exposing the myths of the Thanksgiving story.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston to discuss their favorite war movies and battle scenes and why revenge is so satisfying in movies but never worth it in real life.

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Rev. Layton E. Williams joins Shannon and Ogun to discuss all time favorite albums, Kanye's new "gospel" album and further descent into the Sunken Place, and John Macarthur telling Beth Moore to "go home".

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Ogun and Shannon are joined by Rabbi Eli Freedman this week to discuss swiping Halloween candy from their kids (except for Almond Joys and Mounds cause nobody wants that mess!) and how trick r treating can be a radical act of hospitality.

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The Rev. Layton Williams, author of the recently released book "Holy Disunity: How What Separates Us Can Save Us" joins Shannon and Ogun to discuss trick r treating, healthy masculinity and whether or not Jesus was hitting on the woman at the well.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by Keisha McKenzie to discuss their heroes! The three talk about what makes a hero, who was held up on a pedestal that maybe shouldn't have been, and how "cancel culture" affects our views on people.

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"Wounds Heal In Non-Linear Fashion With a Shit ton of Work In Private With Community Support". Okay, not as catchy as "time heals all wounds", but way more accurate. Shannon and Ogun are joined by Derrick Weston to discuss healing from physical, emotional, and spiritual wounds.

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Shannon and Ogun are joined by the Rev. Grey Maggiano, rector of Memorial Episcopal Church in Baltimore. Grey discusses his congregation's reckoning with its history of slavery and the three discuss Sunday morning as the most segregated hour in American life.

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Two guests who will be a part of the upcoming season rotation, Rabbi Eli Freedman and Derrick Weston, join Ogun to discuss the changing season, favorite candy, ghosts, spirits, and that weird story where King Saul consults a medium.

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Pub Theology founder and host Bryan Berghoef joins Ogun and the returning Rev. Shannon Meacham to discuss his run for congress and the importance of pub theology discussions. Also, a look forward of what the next year of the podcast will look like.

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Bryan is joined by Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis at this year's Wild Goose Festival for a conversation about how to reclaim Christianity and seek a movement of love. Tune in for this engaging conversation recorded in front of a live audience in Hot Springs, North Carolina!

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Layton Williams joins us for lament, laughter and reflections on the seeming impossibility of the death of Rachel Held Evans.

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We talk favorite television shows, the ability of film to portray the depths of the human experience as well as spiritual themes, and whether the quality of television is improving or becoming worse. Plus: when does fandom become idolatry? Layton Williams joins us to discuss!

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We talk about Holy Week: what is the significance of Jesus entering Jerusalem as he did? Of his actions at the temple? Why did Jesus die and why has this event been so central to the heart of the world’s largest religion?

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What would you do for a million dollars? What was Judas' motivation for selling out Jesus? We discuss money, trust, betrayal and more! Tune in for some conversation on life and faith, over a craft-brewed pint!

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What role does humor play in a worship service, if any? We discuss our take, share some laughs, and discuss the fine line between serious and playful, and how laughter can make our lives better.

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We talk "Holy Envy"—how we can not only learn from other faith traditions and people of no faith, but appreciate, admire, and even envy some of the beautiful traditions and practices they espouse. Also, Bryan threatens to leap off tall buildings in a single bound.

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We talk about what happened in New Zealand and the intersection of Islamophobia, guns, fear, and white supremacy. We also discuss finding common ground across religious traditions, and how Christians and people of other faiths can support Muslims around the world.

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Is signing the Bible appropriate? Why or why not? What makes the Bible different from other books, if anything? And if even the devil quotes the Bible, what value does quoting the Bible hold? Tune in to all this and more on Episode 123!

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We discuss Lent, and how it kicks off with a gluttonous celebration right before launching into a sobering reminder of our mortality. We get into the beauty and opportunity that the season of Lent provides.

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Today we'll talk about feminine aspects of God: where and how are they present in scripture, and why are they so often hidden? We'll also talk about the divine feminine as a consciousness or energy found within human beings.

We're joined by Patricia Reilly, who has been inspiring women for over 25 years. Her iconic books, poems, and trainings have traveled around the world.

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On this episode we talk about sex: what messages did you receive about sex as you were growing up? How was sex talked about in your family, by adults around you, in your church? Why do churches tend to elevate 'sexual sin' above other kinds of sins? Is the term 'sexual sin' outdated? How can we do better as humans and especially in the church on this powerful yet often avoided topic of sex?
 Carissa Buursma joins us to discuss!

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Have you ever been told, "Don't think about it too hard, just believe!" Does belief require turning off our brains? Does knowledge come by faith, or vice versa? Jason Chesnut joins us to discuss the tension between faith, belief and knowledge on this week's episode. Tune in!

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Today we talk about the Polar Vortex: is it fair to say human sin is partly to blame? Are human actions precipitating the increasing number of severe weather events happening around the globe? If so, what is the antidote? Is this a spiritual pursuit? How are churches and other faith communities addressing this issue? We're joined by Derrick Weston to discuss!

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What do our dreams have to tell us? Is it our unconscious letting us know something we are unaware of? Are dreams merely random neural firings? Do they foretell anything? We'll share some of our own dreams and nightmares, as well as discuss the role of dreams in the Bible, and whether or not God still speaks through dreams. Tune in!

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We discuss some of the words of Martin Luther King Jr and how they apply today. We ask whether we've learned the lessons he was trying to teach us. We also delve into the recent situation involving Catholic school kids wearing MAGA hats engaging a Native American. Were we too quick to rush to judgment? Was it correct to be outraged? Where is the instant outrage cycle taking us? We discuss!

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We talk social media: how has it impacted the way we live, relationships, communication, etc. When does social media usage become an addiction, and if you step away, do you suffer from a fear of missing out? We discuss!

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Why are humans so susceptible to addictions? Are churches or religious institutions helpful in guiding people to find a healthy way to manage or be freed from addictions? Is there such a thing as a "positive addiction"? We discuss!

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It's our Christmas episode! We discuss our favorite Christmas movies, traditions and more, plus what does it mean to say that God became human? We wrestle with the notion of incarnation, and also whether or not it is appropriate for pastors to ruin Christmas.

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In the post show of Episode 112 on the Apostles' Creed, Bryan and Ogun stick around and finish their beverages, talking sin and forgiveness, music, and more!

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We discuss the Apostles’ Creed, which has been given some attention following the funeral of George H. W. Bush, in which our current President refused to join the gathered congregation in saying or reading it. We’ll review it line by line and give our thoughts on this central creed of the Christian faith.

 Back with us on the show to discuss the matter is Keisha McKenzie.

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We discuss the complicated issue of legacy. With the passing of the 41st President of the United States, George H. W. Bush, lots of kind words are being shared about the sort of man and leader he was. Why is it that we tend to only praise leaders when they die? Is it inappropriate to mention questionable things they were part of? How does this apply to spiritual leaders or the founders of religious movements? Plus, should you be able to legally change your age if you feel younger? We discuss!

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What is the purpose of borders? What gives nations the right to determine who can enter, and when and where? Aren't all humans citizens of Planet Earth? We'll also discuss Hebrews 13:2's injunction to show hospitality to strangers, as we may in fact be entertaining angels without realizing it. What are the moral and ethical grounds for showing hospitality and who should we offer it to? We discuss!

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What is the difference between patriotism and nationalism? Can you be critical of your country and still be patriotic? Is nationalism always wrong? And is your favorite Marvel character? Guest Hugh Hollowell joins us and we discuss!

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In these contentious times, is finding common ground a way to move beyond political division? How does common ground differ from compromise, or “meeting in the middle”? Also, what is the best Halloween candy, and do people who love candy corn also love hoppy beer? We discuss!

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Is God male or female? Both? Other? Today we discuss the shifting landscape of gender identity, what science can tell us and how people of faith are responding. This is particularly pertinent as the Trump administration aims to narrowly redefine gender as a biological, immutable condition determined at birth. Tune in!

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Are you more comfortable with the familiar and the known, or do you have a proclivity to explore the unknown? Some say that the greatest people in history were ones who were able to venture out into new areas, and brave the unknown. How does this apply to your life, to your beliefs, to society? We explore! Plus: Bryan's 10th anniversary of doing Pub Theology.

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A group of Christians is traveling the country by bus on a national tour seeking to encourage evangelicals to consider voting for the common good. What is the common good? According to one common contemporary usage, rooted in Aristotle's philosophy, common good refers to "a good proper to, and attainable only by, the community, yet individually shared by its members." All members? Historically marginalized members of the community? What about people in other countries? We discuss! Plus, what is invisible that you wish you could see?

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How do you talk with people who hold a different perspective than you do? Have you found helpful ways to engage? Unhelpful? We discuss that, plus life-giving practices and whether or not October is the best month! Tune in!

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This week we talk truth and lies in the #metoo era. How can we go beyond 'he said, she said' to something more substantive? What will it take to believe women? Is there room for nuance on this polarizing issue?

Guest host Layton E. Williams joins the conversation as we attempt to sort it all out. Tune in! It's Episode 103 of #PTLive.

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If you remember a story different from a friend or sibling - who is right? Where does the truth lie? How do we do the hard work of history when there are multiple and/or limited perspectives, especially when those perspectives disagree? What about the history in the Bible? Is it exempt from the challenges normal history faces? Plus: Coconut Jesus makes an appearance. Tune in!

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We're back! We talk about the Nike/Colin Kaepernick ad and what we think of this fusion of social justice and a major athletic brand, plus responses to it. We also discuss whether social justice is "heretical" and distracting from the Gospel, or rather essential to the Gospel. Tune in!

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Bryan, Shannon and Ogun take it to the next level in Episode 100, recorded LIVE at the Wild Goose Festival! They discuss: Is It Time to Go Beyond Faith? Finding Life and Meaning in These Dark Times. Lots of great conversation between our fearless trio, along with engaging comments from the crowd. Lots of beers were enjoyed and given away. Tune in to this milestone episode!

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We discuss whether we’ve ever been kicked out of a restaurant, whether it was karma or bad taste that Sarah Huckabee Sanders was booted out of a restaurant, and whether pastors should focus on being pastoral and non-political, or if they should defend the vulnerable and speak truth to power. Plus, where do we find hope? Phew - it's a full slate! Tune in to Episode 99.

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We discuss the recent example of using the Bible badly by Attorney General Jeff Sessions in support of separating migrant children from their parents. We also talk about the need for self-care when everything seems to be going to @#$@&$*.

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[Trigger warning] We discuss the recent deaths of Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade and the issue of suicide. What are good ways to be present for friends who may be at risk? We discuss the challenge of depression and how the church has often mishandled folks who are dealing with depression or are contemplating suicide.

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We discuss the Supreme Court ruling from this week that went in favor of a Colorado baker who was sanctioned for refusing to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. We discuss reactions to this decision, what kind of cake Jesus would bake (and for who), and whether this opens the door to more forms of discrimination.

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We discuss whether everyone is truly "entitled to their opinion"—and what that even means. And what is the difference between a fact and an opinion? Are "facts" less reliable today than they used to be? We discuss it all, plus favorite lunch items from childhood. Tune in!

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We share some of the best and worst marriage advice we've ever heard. We also discuss, in light of the royal wedding, how a term like "traditional marriage" may not mean what many folks think it means. And Rabbi Eli Freedman joins the conversation!

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In light of the preponderance of white people calling the police on African Americans and other people of color, we discuss safety, danger, racism and implicit bias. It's time to talk, white people.

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Is love always the right thing to do? Is it ever appropriate to not act in love? What defines whether an act is loving? Rev. Wendy Craig-Purcell: “Just for today… I choose to come from love." What does it look like for you to 'come from love'? We discuss!

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James Cone noted that "Any theology that is indifferent to the theme of liberation is not Christian theology." Is he correct? We discuss that, plus whether we'd rather know or be in the dark about the time and place we will die.

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Is there a story in the Bible that fascinated you as a child? What biblical story would you hesitate to tell a child? We discuss the power of stories to inspire, plus fate vs freewill—are we merely God's puppets? Or are we masters of our own destiny? Tune in as we discuss!

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As Earth Day approaches, we discuss our favorite places in nature, how biblical texts have supported the pillaging of the Earth, whether separating matter and spirit has been problematic, and how care and connection of the Earth might be a part of one's spiritual calling.

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In light of the 50th anniversary of the death of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., we discuss his notion that "We've got to stay together and maintain unity." What did he mean by unity? What disruptors to unity exist today? What place should unity have in the goals of a society? We discuss this and more!

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Is Easter more difficult for pastors than it was for Jesus? We discuss! And other Easter aftermath: Sunrise services, Easter candy, the resurrection, Jesus Christ Superstar, and more! Plus Bryan is drinking beer again. Especially after Monday night.

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What makes you want to say, "I call BS"? What are you fed up with? What is your sense of what is happening right now with the March for Our Lives movement? And what in the world was happening during Holy Week? We discuss it all, plus we debut our new segment: Pass or Pour! Tune in. It's Episode 86 of Pub Theology Live!

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Do you prefer to offer help or be helped? To save, or to be saved? How does this fit into your vocation? We also touch on the first jobs we ever held—Shannon was a kid wrangler, Ogun delivered bread for a family bakery, and Bryan bagged groceries. We discuss how all this helping and saving relates to God, and more! Tune in!

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When someone says, "It's just common sense!"—is it? How does common sense differ from intuition? Is common sense completely subjective? Can it lead us astray? We discuss! Plus, do we really lose an hour with daylight savings time? Bryan seems to think so.

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How much of our behavior and personality is inherited (nature)? How much is learned (nurture)? How much effect do parents have on their children? And is it time to retire the doctrine of Original Sin? We discuss it all! Tune in to this engaging and maybe even insightful episode of Pub Theology Live!

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We discuss the life and legacy of Billy Graham, and explore both the contributions and potential conflicts he engendered. Plus, how many sticks does it take to make the playground safe?

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Seminarian, preacher and podcaster Tamika Jancewicz joins Shannon and Bryan to talk theology, podcasting, Black Panther, and whether the children will be the ones to lead us to a more sane society. A fun and engaging conversation! Tune in, it's Episode 81 of Pub Theology Live!

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What happens when Ash Wednesday collides with Valentine's Day? It's a battle of dust versus chocolate, ash versus roses, and mortality versus romantic love. Bryan and Shannon are joined by their spouses Christy and Derrick and we talk love, relationships, Valentine's Day and Ash Wednesday. Tune in for a fun and engaging episode!

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Does it matter who we pray to, as long as we're praying? A Brazilian grandmother prayed to a figurine of Elrond of Lord of the Rings for years thinking it was Saint Anthony. Does the direction of our prayers matter, or is just praying enough? What about those who don't pray or don't believe in God? Should churches cultivate a message that makes sense without God? Plus, what was the best Super Bowl commercial? We discuss it all! It's Episode 79 of Pub Theology Live!

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Can technology save us? On this week's episode we discuss the general impact of technology on religion and faith: meditation apps, religion websites, tweeting in church, spiritual online meetups, Youtube preachers, etc. What have you found that augments your own faith or spiritual practice? What challenges does technology present in connecting with the divine? We discuss!

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Do you have a high tolerance for mistakes? How do you respond to mistakes? Do we give a wider latitude to pastors and presidents for making mistakes? Plus, does what happens in Cuba stays in Cuba? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss in this week's engaging episode of Pub Theology Live!

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How do you respond in a crisis? Is this a result of your personality or something you have learned? Can you change this? Where is God in a crisis? Shannon and Ogun diagnose Bryan's need to blame and try to pin an enneagram number on him. Tune in! It's Episode 76.

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When a church says, "All Are Welcome" do you believe it? What does being a 'welcoming church' really mean? Bryan, Shannon and Ogun discuss on Shannon's first official episode as new co-host! Plus, favorite chores and New Year's intentions. Tune in, it's Episode 75!

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What is Christmas all about? Can there be joy in the season without the religious meaning? Was Jesus born as the exception or the example? Should we take the birth narratives literally? We're joined by Chris French and Tina Simmons to discuss. You don't want to miss our holiday episode of Pub Theology Live!

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We answer your questions! Bryan and Ogun deliberate on some interesting topics: Jesus on gay marriage, baking cakes as free speech, whether it's OK to have sex before marriage, healing spiritual wounds, heaven and hell, and more! Tune in for a really interesting conversation on a range of topics!

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Ogun and Bryan discuss whether the church as institution is able to be prophetic, or if it tends to 'play it safe' on issues of justice and catches up later to what is happening in society at large.

We also catch up on the holiday and discuss whether we are innately kind and compassionate. Tune in! It's Episode 72.

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Ahead of Thanksgiving we talk surviving the holidays, how to engage (or disengage) with family, whether or not politics and religion should be broached, and how to have a meaningful conversation with someone with whom you strongly disagree. Rev. Shannon Meacham joins us for this important conversation!

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Can differing views co-exist in church? Or is it better when there is a straightforward and expected perspective or theological viewpoint? Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss! Also, you're going to want to tune in to the end for a surprise announcement. It's Episode 70!

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Does government get in the way of loving your neighbor? Should our neighbors have the freedom to have any and all the weapons they desire? How do we move beyond our inclination toward violence? What if gun control isn't the answer? We discuss all of this and more, with Rev. Kevin Bradley, a "Spiritual Libertarian." Tune in for an engaging conversation!

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Our Halloween episode! We discuss the history and pagan roots of this confection-laden celebration, whether that impacts its observance today, and what spiritual and religious dimensions are present. Also, we dig into the realm of spiritual warfare, Satan, and demonic spirits. Greatly exaggerated, very real, or something else? Plus, stay tuned to the end for a little costume controversy. It's Episode 68!

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With all the Harvey Weinstein news, and the #MeToo that’s been trending around sexual assault and harrassment, we’ve decided to ask, "Does the Bible encourage misogyny?" Some say that the objectification of women goes all the way back to Genesis. If so, what are the ramifications of the Bible’s patriarchal underpinnings? We discuss!

[please note, this episode contains explicit language]

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October 31, 2017 marks 500 years since Martin Luther posted the 95 Theses on a church door in Germany, helping kickstart the Reformation. Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss: were Martin Luther's critiques of the Catholic Church valid? Was his reading of Paul accurate? Do the theological battle-lines of that era still have weight today? Do people still care? Should they? Tune in! It's Episode 66.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss the mass shooting that took place in Las Vegas: when will we move from 'thoughts and prayers' to meaningful action? What should such action look like, if any? Is there a way to reduce such senseless violence in this nation? Is it fair to call this nation's obsession with guns a form of idolatry, or even addiction? We discuss! It's Episode 65.

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Protests, politics and patriotism: we discuss the chaos around NFL protests, Presidential Tweets, and what it all means. We add in our two cents to the conversation and probe what it means to be patriotic and whether patriotism can be enforced. Can both sides of this debate actually hear each other? A legitimate question. We discuss! It's Episode 64 of Pub Theology Live!

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What exactly is peace? Is it a state of mind? A level of consciousness? A state of outward calm? Harmonious relationships between human beings? A gift from God? We discuss! Also, do people have a choice in how they approach God and Scripture, or anything else? It gets a little feisty on our peace episode. Give it a listen! It's Episode 63 of Pub Theology Live!

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In a heated argument, Tina and Ogun wonder whether doing good is ultimately motivated by selfish interests. Bryan attempts to referee. We also discuss the difference between being smart and being wise: is there a moral component to this? Are these two things innate or learned? And, The Gospel According to Trump: inappropriate, hilarious, or mean? Tune in! It's Episode 62 of Pub Theology Live!

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun are back! They discuss the Nashville Statement, which says, among other things: "We affirm that God has designed marriage to be a covenantal, sexual, procreative, lifelong union of one man and one woman." Helpful, harmful, or heinous? We discuss. Plus Joel Osteen and Hurricane Harvey. Tune in!

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun are back for a midsummer's episode! A few technical difficulties aside, it was great to have a chance to check in and chat some theology. Tune in as we discuss Abraham Joshua Heschel's assertion that people of faith are called to be "reminders of God." Plus listen for a new offer for our listeners!

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Recorded live at the 2017 Wild Goose Festival in Hot Springs, NC. Josh Rockett, Brian McLaren, Michael Camp, Christy Berghoef and Bryan Berghoef - and the live audience - discuss the question: "Church: Is It Worth It Anymore?" Tune in to this fun and probing conversation about the church!

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In this episode, we tackle the difficult topics of hypocrisy and abortion, in one issue! We must be crazy. Can one be pro-choice and a Christian? Can you be a Democrat and pro-life? We hit on some of the challenges this issue presents to all folks, and especially people of faith. Also, are all human hypocrites, or is that just reserved especially for church-goers? We discuss! Tune in to Episode 58.

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[WARNING: Sexual topics addressed.] It's here! The extra sexy episode - we discuss sex, body image, relationships - all the good stuff. Why is there so much shame around sex in the church? Does abstinence before marriage lead to a happier marriage? Does it set up false expectations and/or incompatibility? How do we create space to talk about these things? How do we educate our children? And is there space in the church for those wrestling with relationships or pursuing or recovering from divorce?

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We discuss ways that we enhance our humanity: through wearing glasses, medicine, drugs, steroids, technology and other means. Where we should we draw the line on being able to enhance our humanity? Are there limits? Relatedly, are our machines a part of us in ways we can't imagine doing without? Is a smart phone, for example, an essential extension of who we are? Also, would you chat with a replica of yourself? Would you want your family to?

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We discuss how we go about consuming digital media and how we monitor our social media presence and sharing. How much is too much? Are there rules we follow or would encourage others to observe? Also, if we had less privacy, would people behave better? And in the post-show: what are the political boundaries for pastors and churches? We discuss!

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Where do you find hope these days? How do you get along with people who are quite different from you? Has Christianity misplaced its emphasis on belief? Is Bryan's beard getting too long? We discuss it all, on Episode 54!

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We discuss the implications of referring to Earth as our Mother: does this relate to how we mistreat her body? What can we learn from traditions that practice deep respect toward plants, animals and nature? How do language and theological traditions impact the way we engage with the planet? Can the physical also be spiritual? And if God the Father and Mother Nature had a divorce - who gets custody of Jesus? It's a wild and enlightening conversation with guest host Rev. Shannon Meacham. It's Episode 53 of Pub Theology Live!

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We discuss "this whole being resurrected thing" with guest Emma Donohew. Are there multiple ways to understand what happened to Jesus? How do we negotiate traditions that arise elsewhere, such as in another religious tradition, but have found their way into ours? Plus education and its impact on one's religious experience and commitments. Plus, you've heard of Easter egg hunts, how about a beer hunt? Yes, please.

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Why do people seem so intent on hurting each other? Why does the church seem like a place this happens often? We discuss spiritual wounds with author Carol Howard Merritt, and poet and guest Tony Plocido stops in as well—it's Episode 51 of Pub Theology Live!

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On this auspicious episode we discuss names and their meaning, and what the significance is of various names we ascribe to God. Is God beyond names? Are there many gods? One God? Is God within us? Out there? Everywhere? Nowhere? Tune in to catch some hilarity and honest conversation on life and faith.

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We discuss the Prosperity Gospel: is it God's will for each person of faith to be financially prosperous and physically well? Is it possible to practice abundance consciousness without buying into prosperity promises? What role does gratitude play? What does a successful life look like? We discuss it all on this insightful and engaging episode of Pub Theology Live! #ptlive

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We discuss communication, language and God: are we getting better at communicating or worse in this social media age? If words sometimes fall short, what does that mean when considering sacred texts? Can you communicate with God beyond language? Also, we discuss Abraham and the three visitors.

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We discuss the keys to a good Pub Theology session, plus address the question of cults: what is a cult, and how is it different from any other religious organization or church?

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We are joined by guest Candradasa, a Buddhist priest who helps us sort out whether someone can be a Buddhist Christian or a Christian Buddhist. What are the similarities between Buddhism and Christianity? What are the tensions or conflicts? Can someone be both? Also, if someone shot a gun in space, what would happen?

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss the holiday that is Valentine's Day, and consider this definition of love: “Love is the absolute affirmation of another’s meaning.” We also discuss making big changes in life, and what prompts or gets in the way of such changes. We take a cue from Thomas Merton on the spiritual life as being a matter of keeping awake. And Frank gets involved.

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Bryan and Tina welcome Ogun back from his hiatus in the Caribbean. We discuss the our favorite parts of the Super Bowl and "the Gospel according to Lady Gaga" of empowerment, grace, and self-acceptance. That, plus John Shelby Spong's take on true religion: “True religion is not about possessing the truth. No religion does that. It is rather an invitation into a journey that leads one toward the mystery of God. Idolatry is religion pretending that it has all the answers.”

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Can we save the world with kindness? We discuss with David Hayward, the Naked Pastor. We also explore whether Jesus was a refugee, and how people of faith should be responding to what appears to be a ban directed toward Muslim refugees and immigrants.

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Bryan and Tina welcome Dr. Keisha E McKenzie, program director at Believe Out Loud, to the show. We discuss events of the past weekend, including the religiosity of the Inauguration ceremony and the passion of the women's march on Saturday. We explore how Christians are reacting in different ways to both events and why.

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Bryan and Tina welcome pastor Casey Banks to the show, a United Methodist pastor starting a new faith community in Vancouver, WA and recent graduate of Duke Divinity School. She is passionate about creating safe spaces to explore Christian community and spirituality. We chat about what such safe spaces might look like and why they’re needed.

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Brian McLaren joins Bryan and Ogun to discuss themes from his latest book: The Great Spiritual Migration: How the World's Largest Religion is Seeking a Better Way to be Christian. Tune in for some theological insights, spiritual wisdom, and even a few laughs over some craft beer.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun are back for 2017, and discuss their resolutions and embarrassing moments, plus some conversation around separation and the potential failure of collective memory.

If you want to contribute to the conversation, you can do that in one of three ways: 1) Twitter: Follow @PubTheology and with #PTLive. 2) Facebook: Comment at Facebook.com/PubTheology. 3) New for 2017: You can call in to the show! Leave us a voicemail and we may play it live on the show: 980-785-4830 or 980-PTLIVE-0.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun exchange Christmas gifts on the show, try to sort out the Star Wars universe, and discuss the spiritual power of coffee and of surrender.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun keep the Christmas deconstruction going, starting with the [shhh...!] Santa myth. The Jesus story is not far behind. Grab a pint and tune in!

Listeners have a chance to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar, and clerical clothing from Casual Priest.

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Ogun, Tina and guest Shannon Meacham break down some Christmas music theology and some Christmas myths. No topic is off-limits! Also, should churches hold services on Christmas Day when it falls on a Sunday?

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss how to navigate potentially challenging conversations around the table during the holidays. Plus some of our favorite Thanksgiving foods and more!

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Bryan, Tina and guest Derrick Weston discuss events of the past week, what a bumper sticker would say to sum it all up, whether "God is on the throne" is a useful statement, and whether safety pins make a difference.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun are joined by guest Rev. Carol Howard Merritt. We discuss Halloween, celebration in the church, hymnals vs rockin' bands, and missions. Plus Tina tells us about that time she met Jesus.

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Bryan, Tina, and Ogun discuss clergy fashion, plus St. Francis' reported statement of: "Preach the gospel, and if necessary, use words." How does one preach the gospel without words? What role does one's life play in this process? We also discuss self-compassion and being absorbed into an ideology.

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Bryan, Tina, and Ogun discuss Bob Dylan: the man, the music, the legend, and recent recipient of the Nobel Prize for Literature. We take our theological conversational cues from some Dylan lyrics - sure to be a good time.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss how to find sanity during this crazy election season. We ponder what role can churches and communities of faith play in elevating the level of discussion? We also discuss whether we are more worried or optimistic about the future, and the Buddhist notion of non-action.

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Bryan and Tina are joined by guest host Jack Ricchuito, who help us explore the power of questions. How do questions help us learn new things about ourselves? How do they penetrate fossilized assumptions? Can questions save us?

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Bryan, Ogun and guest host Rev. Shannon Meacham discuss the inherent challenges in change, why it causes growth and why it might be difficult for others when someone close to them changes. Plus some musings on peanut butter and beer.

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Is God like the wind? Can a minister be an atheist? Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss.

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Bryan and Ogun talk about the anxiety and peace that is found in religion and in spiritual practice. What is inherent to religion that can lead to anxiety? If your faith makes you more anxious, are you doing it wrong? We also talk about self-care and the need for clergy especially to take time for renewal. And finally we hit on nationalism and all the hubbub happening around standing, sitting or kneeling for the national anthem.

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Ogun and Bryan, plus guest host Derrick Weston, discuss whether we believe in fate or destiny. We also ask: Does your faith or theological system support a type of “fate”? What about biology? Is our future hardwired into us genetically?

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss Colin Kaepernick's protest: was it meaningful, did he miss the point, or was he right on the money? Also, how to balance contemplation and action. Plus Ogun drinks a stout.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun discuss the quandaries of time. How do you spend time? What would you do with more time? Is it possible to 'waste' time? We also discuss revenge: when is it moral or permissible to seek revenge? Is suing a form of revenge? Have you ever been involved in a lawsuit? Who would Jesus sue?

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Olympics, faith and God - Bryan, Ogun and Tina are back! We catch up on our summers, plus we discuss our favorite Olympic events, how faith might impact performance, and whether God exists—and if that matters. You don't want to miss this long-awaited next episode!

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 25 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you. Keep listening all month for opportunity to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar!

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss the importance of context in understanding Jesus or any historical text. We discuss the need for deconstruction, and the tension between the message Jesus proclaimed and the gospel according to Paul. We also discuss whether there will be beer in heaven.

You can tune in to the live show on Tuesdays at 9:00pm ET at pubtheology.com/ptlive or listen later to the podcast. If you want to contribute to the conversation, you can do that two ways: 1) Twitter: Follow @PubTheology and with #PTLive. 2) Facebook: Comment at Facebook.com/PubTheology.

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you. Keep listening all month for opportunity to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar!

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Some of the pre- and post-show banter of Pub Theology Live!

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Bryan and Tina, plus guest Tim Van Haitsma, discuss the idea that the spiritual life is like riding a bicycle, and whether you have to be in motion in order to grow. We'll also hit on Pete Enns' assertion that: “The Bible is not, never has been, and never will be the center of the Christian faith.” AND... we'll discuss the growing movement among evangelicals away from the traditional doctrine of hell. Does hell exist? Does the Bible support it? Where do our ideas of hell come from? Can Christianity survive without hell?

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss Morgan Freeman's assertion that God can be real and an invention. Freeman says, “Life is more about what you believe than almost anything else. That’s why God still exists.” Also, do we think of God as feminine? Why or why not? Why might a feminine aspect of the divine be important? We'll discuss Scriptural support for this idea, as well as what other religious traditions might have to offer.

You can tune in to the live show on Tuesdays at 9:00pm ET on this page, or listen later to the podcast. If you want to contribute to the conversation, you can do that two ways: 1) Twitter: Follow @PubTheology and with #PTLive. 2) Facebook: Comment at Facebook.com/PubTheology.

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you. Keep listening all month for opportunity to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar!

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Some of the pre-show banter of Pub Theology Live. We discuss the beers we're drinking, lawn mowing, social media, and more!

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Bryan Berghoef and Tina Simmons, with guest Kelsey Roth, discuss what their ideas of fun are, and also what spiritual or moral value "fun" has. They also hit on what it takes for churches to be safe spaces for dialogue and questions. They also ask whether God is like Jesus. Plus, the free beer winner for April is announced!

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A few excerpts from the pre and post-show banter. Watch the live stream to get it all. Tuesdays around 8:45pm at pubtheology.com/ptlive

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina dedicate an episode to Prince. We discuss the ways he was overtly sexual yet was deeply religious. Prince was raised a Seventh-day Adventist and later became a Jehovah’s Witness. Where does he rank as a musician? We also discuss time travel: would you prefer to go back in time, or forward into the future? And we also discuss violence in God and nature, and what it would take to achieve peace in our world.

Tune in to the live show: Tuesday, April 26, 9pm ET!

TUNE IN AND WIN FREE BEER: This month you can win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar! We are giving away a $25 gift card to whoever contributes the best social media comment on Facebook or Twitter. Comment on Twitter using #PTLive, or on our Facebook page: Pub Theology. We'll announce the winner for April during our first May episode. You can comment any time, not just during the live broadcast.

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you. Keep listening all month for opportunity to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar!

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina plus guest Rev. Dr. Jesse Tanner—a historical Jesus scholar— discuss whether you could have a valid communion or eucharist service with beer or lemonade instead of wine or grape juice, difficult stories in the Bible, plus Christian exclusivism and the burning question: Would you rather attend school at Hogwarts or live in Narnia?

TUNE IN AND WIN FREE BEER: This month you can win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar! We are giving away a $25 gift card to whoever contributes the best social media comment on Facebook or Twitter. Comment on Twitter using #PTLive, or on our Facebook page: Pub Theology. We'll announce the winner for April during our first May episode. You can comment any time, not just during the live broadcast.

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you.

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A few excerpts from the pre and after show banter. Watch the live stream to get it all. Tuesdays around 8:45pm at pubtheology.com/ptlive

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss what daily or weekly practices nourish them, and how these practices are connected to their spiritual lives. They also discuss if God controls everything, and how free will comes into play. Plus, what does God know? Everything? Most things? Can God learn anything? This is going to take a few beers. Listen live and join the conversation: Tuesdays 9pm ET.

TUNE IN AND WIN FREE BEER: This month you can win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar! We are giving away a $25 gift card to whoever contributes the best social media comment on Facebook or Twitter. Comment on Twitter using #PTLive, or on our Facebook page: Pub Theology. We'll announce the winner for April during our first May episode. You can comment any time, not just during the live broadcast.

Pub Theology Live is sponsored by Craft Beer Cellar, a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you.

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A few excerpts from the pre and after show banter. Watch the live stream to get it all. Tuesdays around 8:45pm at pubtheology.com/ptlive

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss what the universe can tell us about God: is it as clear or reliable as Holy Scriptures? We also discuss whether there is a difference between "sins" and "mistakes," and whether or not children are born sinful. Should we think about "Original Blessing" rather than "Original Sin"? And what is going to do in the human race? A meteor? Nuclear war? A President Trump?

We're joined by Kelsey Roth from our sponsor Craft Beer Cellar. a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit craftbeercellar.com for a location near you. Keep listening all month for opportunity to win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar!

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss the resurrection: Why doesn't the Gospel of Mark, the earliest Gospel, have any appearance of Jesus on Easter morning? We also discuss jobs we've had, how our work affects our identity, whether or not it would be moral to kill Hitler as a baby if given the opportunity, and how we can raise the bar on social and political discourse in this election season. Phew that's a lot. Tune in Tuesday, March 29, 9pm ET.

TUNE IN AND WIN FREE BEER: This month you can win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar! We are giving away a $25 gift card to whoever contributes the best social media comment on Facebook or Twitter. Comment on Twitter using #PTLive, or on our Facebook page: Pub Theology. We'll announce the winner on April 5. You can comment any time, not just during the live broadcast.

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A few excerpts from the pre and after show banter. Watch the live stream to get it all. Tuesdays around 8:45pm at pubtheology.com/ptlive

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina will discuss Holy Week: What was the significance of Palm Sunday? What happened on Good Friday, and what are the implications? How do you view the Resurrection? And more!

TUNE IN AND WIN FREE BEER: This month you can win free beer from Craft Beer Cellar! We are giving away a $25 gift card to whoever contributes the best social media comment on Facebook or Twitter. Comment on Twitter using #PTLive, or on our Facebook page: Pub Theology. We'll announce the winner on April 5.

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Bryan, Ogun and Tina discuss: Who is God?, how should we read the Bible?, and does everyone eventually receive salvation? Plus a little breakfast and March Madness.

Pub Theology Live! A weekly conversation about life and faith over a pint. Join us live Tuesdays, 9pm ET at pubtheology.com.

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Bryan, Tina and Ogun talk about what Pub Theology is, what it isn't, and how you can tap into this growing phenomenon of gathering folks at a local bar to talk about life and faith.

Catch the show live on Tuesdays, 9pm ET at pubtheology.com.

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We talk heaven and craft beer with author and storyteller Jack Ricchiuto.

"If you don't bring heaven into the present, you're never going to have it."

Pub Theology LIVE is a weekly conversation on life and faith, over a pint. Join us live at 9pm ET pubtheology.com.

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We talk spiritual growth, nonconformity, and spiritual independence with David Hayward, the Naked Pastor.

“Embrace yourself, and brace yourself. Own your journey.”

Pub Theology LIVE is a weekly conversation on life and faith, over a pint. Join us live at 9pm ET pubtheology.com.

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Join Ogun Holder, Tina Simmons & Bryan Berghoef (+ occasional guests) for weekly conversations on topics of life and faith, meaning and identity. We'd love to have your voice in the conversation!

Tonight, Feb 16, we discuss whether a Christian can be a socialist, and what to do about the widening polarization between Christians who lean right and Christians who lean left— plus, some Jonathan Edwards and discussion on the Baha'i faith.

Craft Beer Cellar is the official craft beer sponsor of Pub Theology Live. Craft Beer Cellar is a family of retail craft beer stores focused on amazing beer, hospitality and education with 23 locations in 11 states across the country. Visit www.craftbeercellar.com for a location near you.

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Join Ogun Holder, Tina Simmons & Bryan Berghoef for weekly conversations on topics of life and faith, meaning and identity. Tonight, we'll be joined by Hugh Hollowell, the founder, pastor and director of Love Wins Ministries, a ministry of presence and pastoral care to the homeless and housing vulnerable population of Raleigh, NC.

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Episode 4: Extra Sips by Pub Theology

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TONIGHT: We discuss the sacraments of baptism and communion, whether God can be both love and wrath, and what is appropriate for churches and pastors when it comes to politics.

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We kept the mics open after the show. A digestif of sorts?

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Welcome to Pub Theology LIVE: a weekly conversation on life and faith, over a pint (or other beverage). TONIGHT: We discuss the evolution of God—and whether you can see such development in the Bible—why Jesus didn't write anything down, whether the Bible can be wrong, class conflict plus favorite foods! And, in true Pub Theology fashion - I’m sure some other things will come up along the way.

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We discuss David Bowie, Wheaton College, whether Christians and Muslims worship the same God, pluralism, meaning in the universe, and gun control.

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Here we go... sort of. It's the Preview Episode which is a little rough around the edges and sometimes sounding more like a business meeting. We cover some good topics though. www.pubtheology.com