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Jacque Elder

Jacque Elder shares her experience of depression and suicidality. She is symptom free from depression and suicidality and hopes to share ideas, resources and some other cool people who have decided to become public about their Suicide attempts because: WE have lives to save!

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Jacque describes what has kept her stable through the pandemic, in spite of initially feeling like it would be OK to die from COVID. Even through COVID, she got a good PT job which has continued to assist her in living On The Side of Life.


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Jacque wonders if she is making a difference with folks suffering from suicidality and recently began reading Marsha’s book. Marsha Lenihan developed DBT or Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, which works very well with folks who are suicidal and Borderline Personality Disorder.


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Jacque talks about one of her favorite books, Two Old Women by Velma Wallis. Based on a tale shared with generations of Native Americans, it describes a tribe that is starving in the terrible winters of Alaska. The tribal chief makes a decision to leave the two oldest women in the tribe behind, believing that they are holding back the rest of the tribe in their desperate search for food. The two old women not only survive but thrive as they remember their old ways and become strong and agile despite their age. The themes of abandonment and betrayal may speak to some survivors own experiences of feeling abandoned, and how these two women decide to forgive those who left them.


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Jacque Elder describes her good and not so good times of recent weeks. Her fear of abandonment is a powerful trigger that can send her down the Rabbit Hole. What is different now is: she only stays in Burritoville for a few days, she narcs herself out on FB so folks will reach out to her and she knows she will get through it. Brief suicidal thoughts still swing by yet they are so short, she doesn’t even know what the thought was. She used her SAD light, talked to friends on phone and face to face, cried a great deal and knew she would be ok.


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Jacque describes how painful holidays can be, especially if you are estranged from family/friends. She shares what she has done to survive holidays as well as what she does on the holidays to get some enjoyment out of them.


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We often lose relationships with family and friends when we are suicidal because they are afraid. They don’t know what to do or say so we have to teach them. This requires being specific enough that folks around you support.


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In this episode, Jacque Elder describes how to develop your own treatment plan and interventions. Since we have gone through this experience, we learn what works and doesn't work for us. We are the experts on this subject, and if you draw a blank on interventions, let Jacque know and she will brainstorm with you.


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Jacques talks briefly about what led to her depression and suicide attempts. She also shares some of the Natural Anti-depressants that have helped her.


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Jacques talks about the work of David Conroy, who discovered early on that attempt survivors develop PTSD as a direct result of their suicidal experiences. Jacques describes the symptoms of PTSD and how a PTSD recovery model would be for the attempt survivor.


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In this episode, I review an online article about the embarrassing moments during depression, such as lack of hygiene. And not even caring at all. Getting Better meant that had my days where I could not have showered or brush my teeth!


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