Reversing Climate Change: Recent Episodes
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Content warning: This episode discusses a scene in a video game that involves sexual assault during war. If you'd like to skip that section, it is from 7:57-8:35. There is a response that discusses the ethical choices in the game beyond that point, but it is more abstract and general about choices.
Video games have not historically been amazing at storytelling. Games prioritize mechanics and gameplay while story takes a backseat. But that isn’t the case at 11 bit studios, which have produced some of the finest video games in recent years, including a series that takes place within a climate-changed world.
Today’s Reversing Climate Change guest is Maciej Sułecki. Maciej worked on three games that RCC host Ross Kenyon is a huge fan of: This War of Mine, and Frostpunk 1& 2.
The conversation starts with The War of Mine, in which the player plays as a group of civilians trying to survive a fictionalized Siego of Sarajevo. Unlike most war games, the objective is not to win a battle (most characters are ill-suited to fighting) but merely to stay alive and not lose your soul in the process by engaging in unethical or traumatic behavior.
The Frostpunk games each deal with a world that has iced over, and humanity is barely hanging on. Due to the extreme circumstances of survival, the decisions are hard and the political choices tend toward the extreme. It puts players in the role of deciding how to rank liberal values that we take for granted about the consent of the governed and the political process against survival. What’s more: it doesn’t do this in a straightforward way meant to teach you a lesson—a very unusual quality in any media, let alone a video game!
Ross and Maciej discuss other games and series that have prioritized story to varying degrees such as Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Papers, Please, and Disco Elysium, and also end up discussing the degree to which Polish history influenced what are otherwise games meant to be universal.
In the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the democratic body of the Sejm had a principle called the Liberum Veto, by which any member of the body could veto a policy. While this was a beautiful idea, it made it easy for members to be bribed by outsiders to block policy changes and cease the development of the state. By some accounts, it led to the weakening of the Polish state and therefore its ultimate susceptibility to the Polish Partitions. Did that influence the gamemakers thoughts on democracy? Is there such a thing as a universal game, or does all art spring from our experience, cultural or otherwise?
In discussions about technology, and maybe especially within climatetech, the concept of the "Faustian bargain" is common. But what does it actually mean, and is it as simple as concept as it is typically considered?
In today's special Halloween episode, Reversing Climate Change host, Ross Kenyon, intros the show by giving the necessary historical context to understand Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s Faust, and to contrast it against Christophe Marlowe’s Doctor Faustus. Get ready for a dose of Romanticism.
When the Faustian bargain is invoked, it usually means a bad deal—one with no upside except for a short-sighted one. And that may be true for Marlowe’s Faust, but Goethe’s Faust wins his bet with Mephistopheles and his soul is never damned. What does that mean for how we use the term, when persistent survival if not actual upside is reintroduced into the Faustian bargain? What if, at least according to Goethe, making a deal with the devil isn’t always as straightforwardly bad as one might think?
Today’s guest is frequent podcast alumni and multihyphenate, Daniel Backer. Daniel produces virtuosic music, writes insightful novels, and creates video content about literary fiction on both his YouTube and TikTok channels. Be sure to follow his work!
Daniel and Ross spend much of the show exploring what it does to one’s brain to take claims of high strangeness, the paranormal, and the occult seriously, and why horror films (especially those of Ari Aster) deserve a better reputation.
Happy Halloween!
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The Grounded podcast takes over Reversing Climate Change! Tom Previte of The Carbon Removal Show, founded a new biochar company in the United Kingdom called Restord. And like any good podcaster, he decided to make a show about it!
Grounded: A Climate Startup Journey, just wrapped its five-episode first season documenting Tom's attempts to start a new biochar company. He walks listeners through so many of the basic questions of starting a business, and specifically a business in a new category like carbon removal. What standard should one try to work within? Which parts of the life-cycle assessment matter? Who actually wants this product?!
What's especially novel about this episode is that Tom and his producer Ben Weaver-Hincks produced it in the style of Grounded, with voiceover segments and various other effects!
Tom and Ross talk about how to make podcasts about carbon removal interesting, how various design decisions impact quality and frequency of publishing, and what we can do to get more people into CDR and climate action through creative media work.
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How do we conduct science when there isn't a single isolated variable? What does that mean for carbon removal not taking place in a controlled environment? How does science even work?!
Today's show originated from a question of how open-system carbon removal research can be conducted given that in a less-controlled environment, isolating for a single variable with replicability is less obviously possible. Does the scientific method really demand that, or is that some sort of pop culture understanding of science that needs to be challegned?
To answer that question, host and co-founder of the Nori carbon removal marketplace, Ross Kenyon, asked Dr. Holly Jean Buck of the University at Buffalo and Anu Khan of Carbon180, to read two books and come on Reversing Climate Change to discuss them.
The two texts are some of the foundational works of modern philosophy of science: Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, and Paul Feyerabend's Against Method.
Kuhn argued that paradigms are the collection of foundational beliefs we have about how science and knowledge production is conducted, and that they are quite hard to see outside of since most people work so deeply within them. It can often be a generational effort, as older scientists die and new ones take their places.
Feyerabend goes further, arguing that we shouldn't just look for where one paradigm supersedes another, but be protective of competing systems of knowledge and the valuable ways of seeing that they unlock.
The show applies their learnings to the state of the CDR industry, and attempts to ferret out carbon removal's existing paradigm, whether the world is ready for credits that are not tonne-denominated, and how much time we can afford in retooling and letting "normal science" work within an imperfect paradigm vs. trying to create an entirely new paradigm ex nihilo.
Resources
Anu Khan
Holly Jean Buck
Carbon180
Against Method on Wikipedia
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions on Wikipedia
The Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman
Historiography
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What is it like to go to war? What does the experience have to teach us, and could it in any way be a spiritual endeavor? What does the Temple of Mars have to teach us in a climate-changing world?
Karl Marlantes is a Rhodes Scholar who put aside graduate studies at Oxford University to lead a Marine rifle platoon in Vietnam in 1968. He is featured extensively in the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick documentary series, The Vietnam War. His memoir, What It Is Like to Go to War, and novel, Matterhorn, address what we ask our nation’s young warriors to do from within a cultural environment that denies the multifaceted truth of what it means to be a warrior. His recent novels Deep River and Cold Victory address big questions of agency and what it means to recognize oneself as a historical actor.
Is combat terrifying? Exhilarating? Mystical? Carnal? Is it everything all at once? If we only acknowledge the experience as negative, how might that cause repression and misunderstanding in a world unlikely to leave war behind permanently?
If climate change is not successfully addressed as soon as possible, the geopolitical situation may become more rivalrous and difficult. We need to understand the nature of war, of our relationship to our shadow, in order to chart an honest course to a better future.
Resources
Ken Burns & Lynn Novick's The Vietnam War series
Karl Marlantes' books:
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Matterhorn
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What It Is Like to Go to War
- Deep River
- Cold Victory
Carl Jung
Jungian archetypes
The shadow in psychoanalysis
Leo Tolstoy
Cincinnatus
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If you're going to write about the Oregon Trail or the Mississippi flatboat era, why not go gonzo? Does it make for better history or just better bar stories? What can you really learn about change by recreating epic journeys in contemporary times, and what can that teach us about how we live upon this planet?
Today, adventurer and author Rinker Buck is on the show to discuss his odysseys. In particular, his flatboat ride from Pittsburgh to New Orleans, and his mulecart passage of the entire Oregon Trail. If you're gasping reading that last sentence, you need to read his books.
Obviously, these landscapes have massively changed over the centuries, and their environmental history reflects human wants and desires, some good and others less so. How are they shadows of their former selves, which could you not tell which century you're currently in, and which are making beautiful comebacks? What does it teach us about the country so many of our listeners call home? How does the American experience prepare or fail to prepare us for a climate-changed world?
Rinker discusses his particular approach to participatory history, why he doesn't like reenactment as a paradigm, and why he bothers with the Heraclean effort for which some might deem him a "conquistador of the useless."
Tune in and learn from Rinker's hard-earned experience and observations!
Resources
Rinker's website
The Oregon Trail: A New American Journey
Life on the Mississippi: An Epic American Adventure
Flight of Passage: A Memoir
1883
Women's Diaries of the Westward Journey by Lillian Schlissel
Frederick Turner's Frontier Thesis
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When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden?
In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in the Great African Sea Forest and the inspiration behind his new book, Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World.
Host and Nori Co-Founder Ross Kenyon asks Craig some unanswered questions he has about My Octopus Teacher, the experience of fame from winning the 2021 Best Documentary Feature Oscar, whether evolution has prepared us for fame, and Craig's adjustment back to civilian life.
Craig discusses the profound lessons learned from marine life, emphasizing the importance of a deep connection with nature and the critical role biodiversity plays in the survival of our planet.
Ross and Craig discuss their various stories of interspecies communication and what it means to build a thread to a species and learn their language. They explore themes of kinship with nature, the significance of tracking as an ancient fundamental language, and the transformative power of cold water immersion. Plunge for the planet!
The discussion also touches on Craig's marine conservation efforts through the Sea Change Project and introduces a unique multimedia aspect of his book that aims to enhance readers' connection to nature.
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James C. Scott's anthropology
Wim Hof
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The world is becoming wealthier. Is that a good thing? Or should we be looking to simpler and less material lives? How does a middle class global population affect climate change, for good or ill?
On today's show, Dr. Homi Kharas, a senior fellow at The Brookings Institution and author of The Rise of the Global Middle Class: How the Search for the Good Life Can Change the World, elaborates on what it means to be middle class, emphasizing the relevance of choice as a defining characteristic. People drop the concept all the time, but it isn't really clear what is meant by it. Is it about per capita earnings? Security? The type of labor done? Something else?
He explores how the middle class's values and choices intersect with issues like climate change and government policy. Dr. Kharas sheds light on the evolution of capitalism, arguing that it has always adapted to societal changes, and suggests that this continued evolution is optimism-inspiring.
He counters the narrative of a trade-off between material prosperity and carbon emissions, asserting that technology can and should allow for both!
Tune in today to get a dose of history and economics!
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Dr. Homi Kharas's website
The Rise of the Middle Class: How the Search for the Good Life Can Change the World
Amartya Sen on Capabilities
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You are condemned to be free, and yet how much responsibility do you bear for the structures you inhabit? Do your individual consumer choices matter, or is it some distant political economy? Should we enjoy our time in nature on snowmobiles, or is that just one more bootprint on the road to hypocritical perdition? Do you need to be perfect in order to be an activist?
In this episode, Nori cofounder Ross Kenyon, and Thanks-A-Ton cofounder Siobhan Montoya Lavender, discuss the new short film from Protect Our Winters and professional skier Amy Engerbretson, The Hypocrite.
In this wide-ranging discussion, Amy discusses why she made The Hypocrite, which deals with how she went from climate ignorance, through the guilt of her carbon footprint and that of skiing, and became an imperfect climate advocate.
She emphasizes the importance of systemic solutions over individual perfectionism, revealing the often-paralyzing effects of aiming for personal purity in environmental activism. The film aims to inspire action by showcasing the power of collective efforts in outdoor communities, urging listeners to engage civically beyond mere personal adjustments, while also discussing whether duty must be done for its own sakes, regardless of how big of an impact it might have.
The session concludes with Amy's thoughts on political will as the paramount force for climate change mitigation, encouragement for involvement with organizations like Protect Our Winters, and the value of messy, imperfect advocacy.
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Carbon removal is often conceived of as only separating greenhouse gases from ambient air. But what if it also creates other valuable products in the process? Should they still be selling carbon credits? Does this competition make it harder for carbon removal companies that can't produce additional value streams? What are the trade-offs here, and is financial additionality the right place to intervene if intervention is even necessary?
In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon interviews Eric Matzner, an alumnus of Carbon Removal Newsroom and Cofounder of Project Vesta who has a new venture leaving stealth mode called Metalplant. This is Metalplant's podcast debut!
This innovative project combines hyperaccumulator plants and enhanced rock weathering to extract nickel from soil and crushed rock while removing carbon from the air. Eric discusses the economics of co-producing nickel and carbon offsets, addressing the challenges of carbon removal scale-up, and his views on the importance of vertical integration in ensuring quality and cost control. The episode delves into Metalplant's initial operations in Albania, leveraging the country's rich olivine resources on non-arable land, and generating local employment.
Much of the conversation focuses on a possibly looming intellectual crisis in carbon removal: what does the industry do when it realizes that many of its methodologies are co-producing value besides carbon? Will it try to find a way to square that with conventional applications of financial additionality, or will they abandon or amend additionality to make sure co-producers aren't held down while the world desperately needs them to scale their operations?
So much to talk about, and there will almost certainly be more on this topic in the future!
Resources
Metalplant's website
Eric Matzner's website
Eric Matzner on Carbon Removal Newsroom back in 2019: "Project Vesta for olivine drawdown leaves stealth mode"
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Why does death exist? Does getting older always mean getting wiser? Should we look to experience or youth for breakthroughs?
In today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, a 2009 Nobel Laureate in chemistry and author of the new book, Why We Die: The New Science of Aging and the Quest for Immortality.
Despite growing lifespans, it isn't clear that we have become less avaricious or kinder as a species, at least to the extent that may be desired. Would that change if we had radically longer lives? Is that even likely at this point? Venki challenges much of the discourse around anti-aging, immortality, trends made fun of in Silicon Valley like blood boys, consciousness uploads, and much else. And of course, they discuss if and how this will impact the world's attempts to grapple with climate change.
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Why We Die: The New Science of Aging and the Quest for Immortality
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How should a climatetech company think about its brand? What if it's B2B? What if it needs to be both trustworthy and idiosyncratic at the same time?!
In today's episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori Cofounder, Ross Kenyon, is joined by his colleague, Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager. Heidi led Nori's recent rebrand, which took it from a more playful B2C feel to something more sturdy and B2B. We used the agency Odi to help us with it. Great job, Odi!
Heidi explains how a brand can retain its personality and uniqueness while also communicating that it is serious about what it does and can be trusted. Just because one can sometimes act like a clown, doesn't mean one needs to dress like one. If you don't believe me, ask Leslie Nielson.
They also discuss how to lead stakeholder engagement in a way that minimizes conflict or typical committee dysfunction and make sure feedback is heard and synthesized without fetishizing consensus.
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Odi
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Seems like a new book on climate-friendly cooking is constantly being released. Do they matter, or do they unfairly place the burden of political economy and social change on the lowly consumer? What type of cooking might actually be impactful, and why? Why do we even bother cooking anyway?
In today's Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder and Director of Creative & Marketing, Ross Kenyon, is joined by Tamar Adler, a James Beard awardee and author of several books, including An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace, The Everlasting Meal Cookbook: Leftovers A-Z, and Something Old, Something New: Classic Recipes Revised.
Tamar shares her unique approach to cooking which emphasizes the beauty of the endless transformation of ingredients, utilizing and elevating leftovers, and making food an enduring lifestyle rather than a collection of discrete meals.
This focus on transformation, leftovers, and creatively utilizing so many of the parts we often throw away, has an obvious climate angle. But Tamar isn't convinced that's the best reason to pursue her way of cooking, and in fact, doing it for political purposes may make it hard to sustain for the same reasons that diets are hard to sustain: if it isn't joyful, it's a burden. And if it's a burden, it is so much harder to sustain.
Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of An Everlasting Meal, and subscribe to Tamar's new Substack, The Kitchen Shrink, where you can ask her all of the cooking questions you've kept locked in your root cellar.
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Tamar's website
An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace
The Everlasting Meal Cookbook: Leftovers A-Z
Something Old, Something New: Classic Recipes Revised
The Kitchen Shrink
The Supper of the Lamb: A Culinary Reflection by Robert Farrar Capon
The River Cottage Meat Book by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall
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Off-world settlements are sometimes proposed as an insurance policy for Earthlings. Or as an escape for the super-rich. Is it actually either of those things? How should we be considering humanity's relationship to the cosmos and off-world civilization? And is the Overview Effect worth a damn?
On today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori carbon removal marketplace Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Zach Weinersmith and Dr. Kelly Weinersmith, science educators and authors all. Zach is also the person behind the long-running internet comic SMBC (Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal). They are the authors of the new book, A City on Mars: Can We Settle Space, Should We Settle Space, and Have We Really Thought This Through?
Zach and Kelly are both sympathetic to space exploration, being avowed geeks of the subject matter. And yet, the further they dug into basically every facet of life off-world, the less likely it seems our species is ready for the challenges.
Whether it be the ease of hurling celestial objects back at Earth, the collapsing bone density of space denizens, the uncertainty of reproduction in low-gravity environments and therefore the necessity of experimenting without consent upon children, the cost, the geopolitics, the near-term impossibility of independence from Earth, and an entire book's worth of other concerns, it just doesn't seem like becoming a trans-Earth civilization is the solution or problem that its supporters or critics, respectively, have believed it is.
These are all worthy areas of research. Tune in to learn more and why Zach & Kelly are still exuberant space nerds, and how to keep space in mind with regard to climate change.
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Kelly's website
Zach's website
Soonish: Ten Emerging Technologies That'll Improve and/or Ruin Everything
A City on Mars
Mars One
David Grinspoon's Earth in Human Hands
David Grinspoon on Reversing Climate Change
The Right Stuff
Bryan Caplan on Reversing Climate Change talking about his book Open Borders, which Zach illustrated.
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Nutrients on Earth are essential for life on Earth. But they aren't evenly distributed. How do they end up in different places, and how does that affect life on Earth? How does life even work?!
In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Dr. Joe Roman, a conservation biologist and author of Eat, Poop, Die: How Animals Make Our World.
An established view of how ecosystems emerge and change is through bottom-up processes, e.g. through chemistry or microorganisms. In this view, animals are often seen more as visitors passing through rather than as transformative agents themselves. Joe challenges this concept, arguing that much research has shown just how much mammals can change ecosystems, as well as carbon and nitrogen cycles! This has impacts for carbon removal, from ecosystem restoration to iron fertilization of the Southern Ocean.
The conversation also explores the complex relationship humans have with predators and rewilding, and our desire to simplify our environments, often to our peril. This legibility and safety, however, can often mean ecological sterility. Ross shares his experience raising urban chickens in an environment filled with raccoons.
Joe also talks about his ongoing research project on whales and the Great Whale Conveyor Belt, and his interest in studying invasive species as a source of food for humans.
This is one of those episodes that touches so much about our shared world!
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What does it mean to farm regeneratively? Or to farm conventionally, for that matter? Is regenerative agriculture size-dependent? What are its benefits and how does it work?
Today's Reversing Climate Change podcast episode has Jada Dormaier, Supply Account Manager at the Nori carbon removal marketplace, join Nori Cofounder and Director of Creative & Marketing, Ross Kenyon, to discuss regenerative ag.
Like our recent show reintroducing carbon removal generally, we thought it was a good idea to go back to basics on regenerative agriculture. We've put out lots of shows on the topic, but sometimes you need to redo the 101 and catch those newer to the topic up to speed.
In this show, Jada talks about growing up on a farm, working in farm insurance, and then at Nori for the last several years. She has a huge amount of experience with farmers working to change their practices and just make sure their businesses stay afloat. There are plenty of misconceptions about food, farming, rural communities, and agriculture, and Jada shares her experience of what to keep in mind on the topic.
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312: Nori's collab with the Texas Climate-Smart Initiative—w/ Dr. Julie Howe, Professor of Soil Science & Project Director of TCSI
S2E57: Farming While Black: race and regenerative agriculture—w/ Leah Penniman of Soul Fire Farms
309: Will Harris's Legendary Regenerative Agriculture Journey, AKA A Bold Return to Giving a Damn
S2E44: Can permaculture scale?-w/Mark Shepard, author of Restoration Agriculture
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Does liberalism's attempt to let us all pursue different visions of the good life ironically make the good life even harder to achieve? Should there be an established church? Are the people who hold these ideas politically ascendent, or likely to remain part of a small counter-revolutionary fringe?
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon invites Dr. Kevin Vallier, Associate Professor and Director of the Philosophy, Politics, and Economics program at Bowling Green State University, on to discuss the rise(?) of Catholic integralist thought, with which he engages in his latest book, All the Kingdoms of the World: On Radical Religious Alternatives to Liberalism.
Vallier provides a comprehensive overview of integralism, a formerly default ideological perspective derived from various religious traditions (but especially Catholicism), which advocates for religious governance and the intertwining of church and state. He lays out its history, core ideas, and some speculation on its sociology.
Critics of modernity argue that free choice has led to a libertinism that has lowered standards and made us less happy and that we should return to an explicitly religiously ordered society with established churches and codes of behavior. Liberalism, in trying to be all things to all people, has made it adaptive but offering very little public meaning. That, it turns out, is the responsibility of the private person.
Vallier steelmans these ideas to the best of his ability in an attempt to reckon with them as a a devout member of the Orthodox Church, while also defending the importance of the liberal tradition.
Of course, were liberalism to be replaced by such a tradition, there are huge open questions of how that might impact world politics and climate action. Vallier predicts (and maybe even hopes) it remains a small intellectual insurgency rather than becoming what its advocates desire.
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Resources
Kevin Vallier's website
All the Kingdoms of the World: On Radical Religious Alternatives to Liberalism
The Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP)
Vatican II
Crypto-Judaism
The Young Pope
The Book of Common Prayer
Dorothy Day
Edmund Burke
Rod Dreher
Adrian Vermeule
Patrick Deneen
Sedevacantism
The Great Schism
Filioque
Old Believers
Byzantine Rite
Desert Fathers
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When people think about innovation in carbon removal, they're probably thinking about physics or materials science. How do we make CDR faster, cheaper, more durable, or use less energy? What if we told you that a lot of the innovation that is coming is financial and/or contractual?
In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon and Nori CEO Matt Trudeau are joined by Racheal Notto, Director of Carbon Markets Engagement at Kita, and James Kench, the Head of Insurance at Kita. Their conversation explores how insurance can play a key role in managing risks within the carbon markets, and why it isn't already more of a player. Insurance companies are the professed masters of risk management. Carbon markets have a fair amount of risk. Shouldn't there be a bigger crossover?!
Kita, a London-based insurance company focusing specifically on insuring carbon projects, explains their goal of derisking high-quality carbon projects, and what that can add to all players in the space.
The discussants weigh the pros and cons of buffer pools vs. insurance and get answers for why some high-quality carbon removal projects may actually be uninsurable.
Insurance is important for any industry to grow. This could be a sign of another step in the carbon removal sector's growing maturity.
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Everyone right now is talking about regenerative agriculture. What does it look like when major cash crops work to improve their practices? How can the Department of Agriculture and agricultural science programs at universities support the changes so that major commodity operations can derisk their transition?
In today's episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Nori Supply Account Manager, Jada Dormaier, to discuss Nori's partnership with the Texas Climate-Smart Initiative. Dr. Julie Howe, Project Director of the program and Soil Scientist at Texas A&M, joins the show to talk about her work trying to understand nutrient cycling and change the way we farm.
The conversation delves into Dr. Howe's background and what led her to focus on soil chemistry and eventually agricultural sustainability, which is a hot topic even in places some might not expect. It isn't all about yield!
They explore the complexities of agricultural research within an open system with countless variables, which hurts Ross's brain, before moving into a discussion about carbon credits and how farmers can consider these opportunities and additional government programs for ecosystem services.
Dr. Howe emphasizes the importance of implementing climate-smart farming practices, not only for the environment but also for the sustainability and profitability of farming operations. Listen in to get a glimpse inside Nori and the Texas Climate-Smart Initiative.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:38 Dr. Julie Howe's Journey into Agriculture
02:09 The Intersection of Agriculture and Environmental Sustainability
03:34 The Challenges and Risks in Farming
11:20 The Role of Climate Smart Initiative in Agriculture
16:53 The Process and Benefits of Joining Climate Programs
24:52 The Science and Challenges of Agricultural Research
37:27 Encouraging Farmers to Join Climate Programs
40:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Reversing Climate Change is many things: a repository of deep dives into carbon removal, a way to intimately understand the thought processes of the folks at Nori working to build a scalable carbon removal marketplace, and a massive catalogue of the infinite number of climate-adjacencies that tickle host Ross Kenyon's brain. And sometimes you've got to get back to basics and reintroduce a topic to catch new listeners up. To that effect, today's show is twenty minutes on the basics of carbon removal.
In this episode, Ross Kenon, Cofounder of and Director of Creative & Marketing at the Nori carbon removal marketplace, chats with Nori's Head of Supply and Methodology, Radhika Moolgavkar, about carbon removal—what it is and why it's necessary.
They discuss the differences between open and closed CDR systems, the need for a combination of all carbon removal technologies, and why carbon accounting is so complex. They also touch on the intersection of carbon removal technologies with the oil and gas industry and the geopolitical considerations involved in carbon removal strategies.
The episode serves as a resource for listeners who are new to the concept of carbon removal! If you are new to CDR, start here!
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:41 Understanding Carbon Removal
03:18 The Importance of Carbon Removal
05:40 Types of Carbon Removal
14:02 Challenges in Carbon Accounting
18:16 The Role of Oil and Gas in Carbon Removal
19:55 Conclusion
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What does it mean to work "in Product", let alone at a company working on climate change? What is the difference between Product and Engineering? And what the hell are they building in there anyways?!In this conversation, Nori cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Nori's Head of Product, Patrick Tsao, to discuss Patrick's role in scaling climate action. How much of this work is strategy, how much is building tools, and are we meant to be empirical or aprioristic "first principles" thinkers? What are the risks of each?Patrick emphasizes the struggle of understanding and meeting customers' goals in the constantly evolving #carbonmarket, and when and how to work on education beyond the norm.We aim to be doing more regular Product updates moving forward!
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What does regenerative agriculture mean to you? Whither Big Regen?
To Will Harris, author of A Bold Return to Giving a Damn, One Farm, Six Generations, and the Future of Food,it means restarting the cycles of nature—making them healthy again. This week on Reversing Climate Change, Ross Kenyon and Jada Dormaier from Nori are joined by Will Harris to discuss his remarkable journey from industrial to regenerative farming.
The conversation is simultaneously a beginners introduction, and a deep dive into regenerative farming practices.
The conversation covers the shift from efficiency, the complexities of greenwashing in agriculture, the role of big food companies, the challenges in balancing local and national food production, and the intricacies of feeding the world while considering the environmental consequences of commercial farming. Oh, and don’t forget carbon credits.
Tune in to explore the nuanced goal of creating food systems that are good for the planet, animals, and eaters.
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A disaster has arrived. Do you have the right supplies? The right mindset? Are you ready?
Last time this topic came up, we spoke with David Pogue on enormous questions of how to choose where to live and to make sure you are relatively prepared for the climate-changed future. This show is downstream from there: what do you do given that you potentially are not moving somewhere else and need to keep yourself and family safe immediately?
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross Kenyon hosts Jeanne Chilton Devon and Bill Fulton, authors of Survive and Thrive: How to Prepare for Any Disaster Without Ammo, Camo, or Eating Your Neighbor; and The Blood of Patriots: How I Took Down an Anti-Government Militia with Beer, Bounty Hunting, and Badassery.
They discuss the importance of being prepared for disasters, triggered by their experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic. They emphasise that preparation helps reduce anxiety, arguing that a sense of control enables individuals to cope with disasters effectively.
They also recommend various practical aspects including water, food storage, security and mental wellness, and urge people to custom-build their survival kits, taking into account their specific situations. They advocate for community-level preparation (AKA knowing your neighbors), incorporating knowledge-sharing and developing interpersonal relationships.
The discussion also stresses the role of sustainability and self-sufficiency in disaster preparedness, especially in the context of climate change.
Tune in to get primed to think about disaster response in a climate context!
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The Blood of Patriots: How I Took Down an Anti-Government Militia with Beer, Bounty Hunting, and Badassery by Jeanne Chilton Devon & Bill Fulton
Homestead Survival: An Insider's Guide to Your Great Escape by Marty Raney
The episode of Reversing Climate Change where we discuss insurance, how to choose a physical location for your dwelling, which parts of the country to live in, etc.: "Climate Prepping: How Should Your Family Adapt?—w/ David Pogue, author of How to Prepare for Climate Change"
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Is there a tectonic shift away from corporate offsetting and into corporate insetting?
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, we sat down with Lia Nicholson, Head of Sustainability at Terrascope, to discuss the sexiest topic of all—carbon accounting.
Historically, corporations faced justified criticism for opting to buy low-quality carbon offsets instead of making tangible efforts to reduce their own emissions. Lia highlights a significant recent shift from traditional offsetting to insetting, where companies account for carbon-negative behavior within their value chain rather than outsourcing it to a service provider.
As corporations worldwide scramble to mitigate their carbon footprints, understanding how emissions are calculated and reduced becomes paramount. But how should accounting of emissions be structured?
Lia lays out how in a typical company, some 85% of emissions can come from the company’s value chain. Discover how reducing scope 3 emissions is about leverage and influence. As Lia puts it, “the point of corporate accounting is not to add up all the company’s emissions; it’s really to look at where that company has influence on those emissions.
Tune in to explore insights into the standards bodies that corporate accountants refer to, the implications of the new EU carbon border adjustment tax, and how the winds of opportunity, born from disasters, can be harnessed to drive real environmental change.
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What's the hallway buzz about carbon removal in Dubai? Is carbon removal a fringe topic or top of mind for attendees? And what's it mean for major climate events to happen in petrostates? Who's ready for Baku, 2024?!
It’s COP28, the 28th Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), the international gathering at which member nations converge to outline their ambitions and responsibilities in regards to climate change.
Reversing Climate Change host Ross Kenyon spoke with Tito Jankowski, CEO of Airminers, who was literally in Dubai while recording. Tito shared a firsthand account of what it is like being on the ground at this controversial COP chatting about climate action and carbon removal.
Tito finds that the critical question he keeps coming back to is “Do you think carbon removal is necessary for a sustainable climate?”If the answer to that is no, where do you go from there? Every nine days we put another billion tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Ross and Tito talk about temperature control as a possible reframe (and its possible geoengineering connotations and whether that matters), the cultural landscape of the UAE, and whether next year's COP in Azerbaijan gives OPEC nations a stake in fossil fuel phaseout or enables delay.
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Forget merely about melting polar ice caps—expansion of deadly diseases is possibly the true Pandora’s Box that climate change is rapidly opening.
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, host Ross Kenyon is rejoined by Zoya Teirstein, staff writer at Grist, to discuss the intricate and chilling intersection of climate change and disease.
The way Zoya puts it, climate change is taking the Earth and shaking it like a snowglobe: pathogens are meeting up in new configurations and wreaking havoc. She covers these proliferating diseases and their connection to climate change in her timely beat at Grist.
Learn how bacteria is traveling up the coast due to warming temperatures - accessing geographies where doctors are not familiar and not prepared to deal with the resulting, often fatal, illnesses.
Beyond the rising temperatures creating breeding grounds for deadly mosquitoes, and disrupted ecosystems with unpredictable consequences, the episode explores the challenging discussions around managed retreat and adaptation.
While the threat of mass death from heat waves exceeds critical thresholds, the conversation also unveils rays of hope—community resilience, the potential for preventable deaths through early action, and the ultimate cure lying in reversing climate change.
This critical wake-up call and call to action underscore the urgency of addressing the disease dilemmas caused by climate change. Share, discuss, and unite in the fight for a healthier planet.
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"I won't be able to live with the realization that I could have done more and I didn't."
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, host Ross Kenyon engages in a candid conversation with Ed Begley, Jr., a seasoned environmental activist and Hollywood actor. Unpacking his Hollywood journey and introducing his memoir, To the Temple of Tranquility and Step on It!, Ed provides a humorous yet insightful look into his life and passion for the environment.
Ed's unique perspective on climate change, shaped by his experiences with addiction and an intense pursuit of the low-carbon lifestyle, becomes a focal point as he explores the healing power of honesty, both personally and globally.
What is the role of personal action? Find out how Ed has learned over the years that a 'tripod approach' is critical to moving the needle on actionable change. What should the balance be between mindfulness and standing still vs. anger and activism? Balancing seriousness with a touch of humor, Ed and Ross discuss the role of laughter in climate change activism.
Tune in to glimpse the joy of living a low carbon life from the Zelig/Forrest Gump of Hollywood.
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The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts
Matt Stone & Trey Parker’s animated lectures of Alan Watts
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Can a tiny life be meaningful?For this Thanksgiving Day episode of Reversing Climate Change, join us for stories about food, family, connection, and love.Ross reaches across the pond to speak with Helen Rebanks, farmer, shepherd, and author of The Farmer's Wife: My Life in Days. She is the wife of another farmer, James Rebanks, author of The Shepherd's Life: Modern Dispatches from an Ancient Landscape, and Pastoral Song: A Farmer’s Journey, and each of them are personally prominent in the books of the other!From the serene and rugged Lake District in England, Helen shares the unique experience of life on their family farm, emphasizing the intrinsic value of domesticity amid the prevailing focus on individualism in modern society.Learn how Helen views regenerative shepherding methods, such as mob grazing, and their collaborative harmony with nature. What role does she believe local, organic, regenerative, traditional, and sustainable agriculture can play in empowering farmers as heroes in the fight against climate change?Helen's insights extend to the realm of cooking and food production, advocating for a departure from the industrial food system. What power do consumers, especially parents, hold in influencing the food industry and shaping a more sustainable future?
Tune in for a glimpse into a tiny life, and to discover the importance and value of the mundane.
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Starbucks is finding new mountains to grow coffee on, agribusiness is developing drought resistant seeds, and the governments are building seawalls. So what can individuals and families do to adapt themselves?!
This week Ross is joined by David Pogue, CBS News Sunday Morning correspondent, former New York Times weekly tech columnist, and author of How to Prepare for Climate Change: A Practical Guide to Surviving the Chaos.
How do we adapt to the safety risks of major disasters? Should we embrace firearm ownership for when society breaks down? Or is a tactical flashlight a better idea? How much food and water should you have in your cellar?
Ross and David discuss the ins and outs of climate adaptation: maybe you shouldn’t be where you are… If you have a choice, there are some climate geographies much more resilient than others (hint: here comes the Rust Belt renaissance and the Midwest’s time to shine.)
The conversation delves into the psychology of adaptation: certain demographics are not yet ready to admit that the planet is radically changing, while 40% of middle schoolers are now convinced that the world will end in their lifetime. Will adaptive actions actually make us feel better about the climate future?
Tune into this episode to learn what you can be doing to adapt to climate change and to learn which state is the most flooded (another hint: it’s not on the coast), why disease may be the most underrated climate risk out there, how the climate-concerned may invest, and how you can talk to your children about climate adaptation.
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Do carbon credit ratings help or harm the growth of carbon markets? How important is standardization to liquidity? Should we look to lessons from the bond market? Equities? Commodities? Derivatives? Precious metals? Real estate?! Get ready to go full high finance — it’s a show about market structure.
In this episode, Reversing Climate Change’s host and Nori Co-founder Ross Kenyon is joined by Tommy Ricketts, CEO and Co-founder of BeZero Carbon, a carbon credit ratings agency, and Matt Trudeau, the CEO of Nori, for a friendly debate about how the industry rates and prices carbon credits.
What do you do with heterogeneous credits? And what is the overall price of carbon — what is the price-setting instrument? Should or could there be an idealized financial instrument that represents a tonne of perfect carbon removal? What does this unlock? What might it obscure?
The discussion revolves around the vital role of project-level quality in the carbon market and the significance of a risk-based approach. Tommy sheds light on the creation of BeZero Carbon and its mission to distinguish the quality of carbon credits. The conversation underscores the potential growth constraints of striving for perfection in carbon markets. The trio explore the evolving landscape of carbon credit markets, the possibility of governmental intervention, and the role of private capital in fueling climate-positive projects.
Tune in to tickle the market structure nerd in your heart you didn’t know existed.
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Is hunting on the brink of extinction? Is that a good or a bad thing?
In this episode, we delve into the intricate connection between the art of hunting and our profound relationship with the natural world. Our is guest Bruce McGlenn, Founder and Lead Instructor of Human Nature Hunting—a program that, as Bruces describes it, is fundamentally and foremost about helping people reconnect or strengthen their connection to nature through hunting.
By delving into the immersive process of the hunt, we uncover the journey's transformative impact, from meticulous planning to profound reconnection with the environment.
Bruce sheds light on the intersections between veganism and hunting, emphasizing the shared commitment to minimizing animal suffering and aversion to conventional factory farming. The episode culminates with a reflection on the spiritual significance of acknowledging the sacrifice inherent in our sustenance, prompting listeners to contemplate their role within the delicate balance of nature.
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S3E41: Whole animal butchery, nose-to-tail eating, & climate—w/ Kevin Smith, butcher & owner of Beast and Cleaver
S2E53: Paul Kingsnorth on the shared roots of climate crisis, transhumanism, & immortality
S2E64: How to Be Animal: a guide for confused humans—w/ Melanie Challenger, author
Bonjerk jerky
Here is the quote from Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet:
Then an old man, a keeper of an inn, said,
Speak to us of Eating and Drinking.
And he said:
Would that you could live on the fragrance of the earth, and like an air
plant be sustained by the light.
But since you must kill to eat, and rob the newly born of its mother’s milk to
quench your thirst, let it then be an act of worship,
And let your board stand an altar on which the pure and the innocent of
forest and plain are sacrificed for that which is purer and still more innocent
in man.
When you kill a beast say to him in your heart,
“By the same power that slays you, I too am slain; and I too shall be consumed.
For the law that delivered you into my hand shall deliver me into a mightier
hand.
Your blood and my blood is naught but the sap that feeds the tree of heaven.”
And when you crush an apple with your teeth, say to it in your heart,
“Your seeds shall live in my body,
And the buds of your tomorrow shall blossom in my heart,
And your fragrance shall be my breath,
And together we shall rejoice through all the seasons.”
And in the autumn, when you gather the grapes of your vineyards for the
winepress, say in your heart,
“I too am a vineyard, and my fruit shall be gathered for the winepress,
And like new wine I shall be kept in eternal vessels.”
And in winter, when you draw the wine, let there be in your heart a song
for each cup;
And let there be in the song a remembrance for the autumn days, and for
the vineyard, and for the winepress.
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What if you bought carbon removal, not as an offset, but rather as a gift?
This week we sat down with the founding team at Thanks a Ton (Laura Katayama, Tessaria Mihangel, and our own Siobhan Montoya Lavender), a carbon dioxide removal gifting startup on a mission to spread awareness about the burgeoning high-quality CDR industry.
“We take climate change very seriously, but try not to take ourselves too seriously” is a mantra the team lives by.
Thanks a Ton offers a platform where you can send the gift of carbon removal via a digital greeting card. Although the team admits that they are still circling product-market fit, they have had little problem securing high-quality project developers and have gotten a lot of attention for their fun-loving and often striking artwork.
In this episode we dive into this scrappy startup and the surprisingly robust platform they’ve built to engage non-insiders with carbon removal.
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In this week’s episode, the name of the goal is not ‘net zero’, it’s regeneration. We’re joined by Paul Hawken: author of many books including Drawdown and Regeneration, activist, and entrepreneur to talk about the tools that he believes can end the climate crisis.
Paul takes us through the concept of "carbon tunnel syndrome," an overemphasis on carbon as a mere numerical figure, often favored by the tech industry. He also sheds light on the staggering statistic that less than 1% of the global population actively works on climate solutions. He also is quite skeptical that direct air capture will ever make energetic sense.
Throughout history, the climate movement has urged individuals to focus on future existential threats. However, Paul highlights a stark reality: over five billion people wake up every day preoccupied with current existential threats.
This episode serves as a stark reflection on the array of solutions within our grasp. It underscores the urgency of prioritizing Earth's regeneration and explores the intricate relationship between carbon removal and the broader climate solution landscape. Join us in this candid conversation about addressing the climate crisis head-on, and be sure to check out Paul’s new book Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation.
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Solar geoengineering. It's not just a question of whether or not to do it, but of how it might be done and why.
This week we are joined by Shuchi Talati, founder of The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering, to talk about who is making decisions about solar geoengineering and whether or not populations most vulnerable to climate change have a seat at the table.
Solar geoengineering or “Solar Radiation Modification/Management (SRM)” is the large-scale and intentional intervention to increase the amount of sunlight reflected back into space. The purpose is to temporarily limit temperature increase.
Shuchi walks us through why the Alliance is not for or against SRM, why refusing to discuss or research RSM is potentially an inherently privileged standpoint, and why she believes we should center voices from regions already experiencing horrific climate impacts.
Listen in to find out who is currently researching SRM, what the potential risks and benefits are, and how the Alliance plans to make such a controversial topic more open and accessible.
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Imagine a biomass substance that reduces our reliance on petroleum and deforestation for physical products. This is the vision of Hexas Biomass, a company that is developing new raw materials from sustainable sources. Their flagship product, XanoFiber, has been bred to possibly be(!) a #carbonnegative fiber that can be used to create a wide range of products, from clothing to building materials.
In this week's episode, Wendy Owens, CEO and Founder of Hexas Biomass, discusses the challenges and opportunities of integrating new raw materials into the existing supply chain. She introduces XanoFiber and its potential to revolutionize the way we produce and consume goods and materials.
Owens highlights the importance of using marginal lands for biomass production, which can help to avoid competition with farming. She also discusses why we still use trees for low-value commodity products, the potential of XanoGrass to outcompete tree farms, the gradual transition to a bioeconomy, and why we need to make use of the trillion dollars worth of manufacturing infrastructure that already exists.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in learning more about the future of sustainable materials—enjoy!
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Is buying carbon credits like buying real estate? What would a tradable commodity market for the carbon removal industry look like?
In today's episode, Ross sits down with Matt Trudeau, Nori’s new CEO, to get a glimpse of how a veteran market builder thinks about building carbon markets that meet the challenges of a rapidly scaling industry.
Matt talks about the balance between standardization and innovation within carbon market development, discusses the evolution of financial markets, and explores the impact of high-frequency trading on fairness and efficiency.
Listen in to get a sense of where the burgeoning carbon market is encountering hurdles and what we can learn from the historical transition to electronic trading systems.
If you've ever pondered the transformation of bespoke carbon credit transactions into a full-fledged commodities market, this episode is a must-listen.
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Kenya is exploding into the Direct Air Capture scene. New York City is hosting the first ever global DAC conference. And while Al Gore is deeply knowledgeable about climate change, he might be wrong about carbon removal.
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jason Hochman, the co-founder and senior director of the DAC Coalition, takes us on a foray into Nairobi, Kenya, where he recently attended the first Africa Climate Summit. We learn why Kenya and the countries along the East African Rift will be critical for carbon removal.
Coming up on October 16th and 17th, Jason shares that Columbia University will play host to the first ever Global Direct Air Capture Conference. This event is designed to bring together all interested stakeholders to discuss the current and future states of DAC, and how the parties can come together to bridge the gap.
The conversation explores what is considered to be "responsible" DAC, why there is opposition to it, and why there is also bipartisan support for it.
Come for the direct air capture, stay for Jason's new nickname.We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!
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In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, we are joined once again by Caroline Saunders, a skilled pastry chef and dedicated recipe tester, who channels her passion into crafting delectable treats using climate-friendly ingredients.
Ross Kenyon and Radhika Mogalkar enthusiastically embraced the challenge of trying Caroline’s climate-friendly baking recipes. Discover who fared better in their quest to bake the perfect key lime pie!
Discover how Caroline’s journey towards becoming a climate-conscious baker was ignited in her personal life but then involved a radical career change out of environmental media and into studying abroad at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris and interning at a Michelin-starred restaurant. The ingenuity and precision of the pastry chefs she encountered inspired her to harness her culinary skills for a greater environmental cause.
Explore how Caroline is developing best practices, creating a gateway for at-home bakers into regenerative foods.
Currently, Caroline tests recipes for a cookbook author who shares her passion for climate-friendly baking. She experiments with Kernza flour, spelt flour, and non-dairy milks, sharing her innovations on her blog and social media.
Caroline encourages culinary exploration with novel elements and the generous sharing of discoveries. She underscores the importance of supporting businesses that embrace climate-friendly ingredient choices. Discover the perspectives of other bakers on seed-saving and recipes that prioritize the climate's welfare. Envision the future of global sustenance in the decades and centuries ahead.
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Extreme heat. What does it feel like? Why is it getting worse and who is it impacting?
In this Reversing Climate Change podcast episode, we spoke with Jeff Goodell, contributing editor at Rolling Stone and author of The Water Will Come and his latest, The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death on a Scorched Planet.
Tune in to hear about Jeff Goodell's personal experience with extreme heat. Learn about what cities are doing to combat the urban heat island effect, and what the true costs of adaptation will likely be.
Could certain cities become uninhabitable due to escalating heat levels? Ross and Jeff explore the variations in heat adaptation across different regions and income brackets, along with the possibility of introducing new labor laws in response to heat-related challenges.
The discussion also delves into the preparedness of the U.S. military for climate change impacts, the future outlook for ranking or naming extreme heat events, and the implications for the fossil fuel industry and the transition to clean energy.
One thing becomes clear, as temperatures continue to rise: the Phoenix, Las Vegas, or Austin that people know and love, is going to look very different in the future.
The show also discusses Jeff's long-running reportage on both carbon removal and geoengineering, and evaluates the status of both ideas, and what's likely to play out in the near-future.
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Does culture eat strategy for breakfast? What does a successful carbon removal community look like? Who ordered the veal cutlet?
Join us in this episode of Reversing Climate Change featuring Jason Grillo, Director of Partnerships and Operations at AirMiners. Discover how culture takes center stage at AirMiners, one of the major communities empowering carbon removal startups.
Explore the Kiloton Fund, the Bootup program, and Launchpad, which has already graduated 95 teams in two years. Deadline for the next cohort closes on August 11th, 2023!
How does AirMiners embrace hope amidst an often challenging and doomerist climate landscape? Tune in to explore the role of levity and humor in building a strong carbon removal community. Discover how tackling an ambitious goal, such as removing 1 billion tons by 2030, can be approached with humility and by inviting people to the table.
Like AirMiners, this episode doesn’t have all the answers, but it does have some ideas of what would go in a carbon removal museum.
If you’re interested in being part of the carbon removal industry, this episode is for you!
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When you’re born into a winemaking dynasty, there’s a lot of momentum to carry on the family business. But also a lot of pressure to make your own mark. Carlo Mondavi is the co-founder and Chief Farming Officer at Monarch, creators of the Monarch Tractor, an electric smart tractor that may offer a better and safer product than conventional diesel tractors. Today he joins Siobhan Montoya Lavender and Ross Kenyon to discuss.
The conversation begins with Carlo's heartfelt motivation behind creating the Monarch Tractor. Witnessing the devastating loss of biodiversity caused by conventional herbicides, Carlo was inspired to find a regenerative agriculture solution that would reduce herbicide usage while ensuring a safer, more eco-friendly farming experience. The Monarch Tractor provides a more mechanical solution than one that deeply changes the microbiota.
But sometimes it’s hard to change minds, and offering a better solution rather than finger-wagging can often be a better way to proceed. With or without subsidies, can the Monarch tractor succeed in changing one of the most common farm tools used?
Tune in to this episode to explore the efforts of Monarch Tractor to change farming and learn about their story to become the Tesla of farming.
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How does it work to buy carbon removal credits from early stage startups and resell them later for profit? What does it mean to support carbon removal startups without equity financing? Are alternatives available beyond conventional venture funding? Enter: the AirMiners Kiloton Fund.
Tune in this week as the great Tito Jankowski, CEO and cofounder of AirMiners, returns to the show to talk about all of those questions, the general state of carbon removal, and how two goofballs like us ended up at TED Countdown in Detroit.
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Reversing Climate Change presents an enlightening conversation with Kevin Whilden, the co-founder and co-director of Sustainable Surf, where they delve into the captivating world of ocean restoration, the power of storytelling, and the remarkable phenomenon of blue carbon. Join Ross and Siobhan as they navigate the complexities of carbon offsetting, funding pathways for coastal and land-based restoration, and the profound impact of storytelling on driving environmental action.
The spotlight of the discussion falls on blue carbon, which refers to the carbon stored within coastal and marine ecosystems. These ecosystems, encompassing vital habitats such as seaweed, mangroves, and seagrasses, exhibit extraordinary carbon sequestration capabilities, often surpassing their land-based counterparts. The significance of these blue carbon ecosystems lies not only in their capacity to store carbon but also in their vital role in supporting biodiversity and protecting coastal communities from climate-related hazards.
Kevin Whilden emphasizes the deep-rooted connection humans have with the ocean and highlights how this connection can serve as a powerful catalyst for inspiring environmental action. By fostering a sense of affection and appreciation for the ocean, individuals are more likely to engage in efforts aimed at its restoration and protection.
In addition to exploring blue carbon, the conversation delves into the funding mechanisms and pathways available for coastal restoration projects, shedding light on the role and history of carbon markets. Furthermore, the episode provides insights into the non-profit nature of SeaTrees and their collaborative efforts with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography to refine the measurement of Blue Carbon Projects.
Discover how you can actively participate in SeaTrees' initiatives and contribute to the restoration of our ocean ecosystems. By listening to this episode, you will gain a deeper understanding of the importance of blue carbon, the role of storytelling in driving action, and the opportunities available to support SeaTrees' work.
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In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, cohosts Ross Kenyon and Siobhan Montoya Lavender are joined by Erika Reinhardt, Co-founder and Executive Director of Spark Climate Solutions. Together, they delve into the pressing issue of methane and its increasing significance in the climate zeitgeist, and when can we expect methane arrival to appear?
The conversation kicks off with a discussion on why methane deserves our attention. Erika explains that methane is a potent greenhouse gas, with initial emissions being 120 times more potent than carbon dioxide when it is first released into the atmosphere. Despite its relatively short atmospheric lifespan of approximately twelve years, methane is responsible for a whopping 0.5℃ warming impact on our climate.
Is methane “destroyed”? Is it “converted”? How should we think about methane in the context of the dreaded carbon dioxide questions: should we focus on reductions or removal? (hint, most answers start with ‘yes, and’).
The episode also highlights the concerning rise of both natural and anthropogenic sources of methane. Erika underlines the importance of taking comprehensive action to curb methane emissions from various sectors—it’s not just oil and gas, it’s not just cow belching, it’s a big and complex picture that needs lots of different solutions and mitigation measures.
Drawing parallels between methane removal and carbon removal, the conversation explores the similarities and notable differences between the two. Listeners gain insights into the unique challenges and opportunities associated with methane removal strategies.
Erika shares the motivations behind founding Spark Climate Solutions and provides an overview of the organization's current objectives.
Throughout the episode, the hosts and guest emphasize the urgency of addressing methane emissions and highlight the potential impact of targeted strategies and where the gaps lie. If you're curious about greenhouse gasses beyond carbon dioxide, this is the episode for you!
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The carbon removal industry and science have evolved greatly since Nori was founded in 2017. In this special Reversing Climate Change episode, Nori's Head of Supply and Methodology Radhika Moolgavkar, joins host Ross Kenyon to talk through what’s changed, what’s still the same, and how Nori is evolving with a new net-zero-friendly ‘blended tonne’ that they just published a new whitepaper on this week.
- What is this ‘blended tonne’ Nori is developing?
- What did the carbon removal industry look like back in 2017?
- Why did Nori choose to start with soil carbon and how has soil carbon progressed since then?
- What is a carbon cycle and why should carbon removal credit buyers care?
- What is the difference between the geological (‘slow) carbon cycle and and biological (‘fast’) carbon cycle?
- If you emit a tonne by burning fossil fuels and remove a tonne through soil carbon, is it net zero?
- If you emit a tonne by burning fossil fuels and pre-purchase a future DAC carbon removal, is it net zero?
- What role does soil carbon play in reversing climate change?
Tune in to dive into the questions above, and more!
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What does a utopian second-generation Direct Air Capture (DAC) system look like, and how does it differ from what we have now?
In this engaging episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross and Siobhan have a very frank and honest discussion with Sampo Tukiainen, a farmer, apiarist, meditator, rifleman and the CEO of C-Fix, a second-generation #directaircapture company that wants to do it all. After a brief intro to #DAC, they discuss the energy consumption of current facilities, and how second-generation technology offers potential energy savings compared to the energy-intensive first-generation methods.
Would DAC with co-benefits be unstoppable? Probably. Sampo imagines a DAC facility that also addresses water scarcity, provides agricultural resources, and stores carbon dioxide onsite. Learn how Sampo balances his CDR career with his passion for farming, riflery, meditation and family. Hear his frank thoughts on the challenges of building a CDR company when there is conflict.
By the end of the episode, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the possibilities offered by second-generation DAC and the importance of incorporating co-benefits into the system.
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Making decisions for your garden and yard is often a yearly exercise. But for long-lived perennials, you need to start thinking about how climate change is going to impact your region. But don't start loading up on olive trees just yet...
Today on the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Sally Morgan, coauthor of The Climate Change Garden: Down to Earth Advice for Growing a Resilient Garden, teaches host Ross Kenyon about how to cope with a simultaneously drier and wetter world. What happens when temperate zones become Mediterranean? And what happens to zones already Mediterranean?!
Tune in this week to get your mind working on gardening in a climate-changed future.
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In this episode, Ross and Siobhan are joined by Ongeleigh Underwood and Nikki Batchelor to delve into the newly released report from the Circular Carbon Network, an initiative of XPRIZE. The report provides valuable insights into the state of the Circular Carbon Market, addressing crucial questions such as who is building Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) projects and who is funding them.
The conversation explores the role of XPRIZE in fostering market growth and collaboration, and examines how companies have evolved since the last carbon-focused XPRIZE, which is when the report started gathering data. Ongeleigh and Nikki shed light on the partnerships formed by companies to complete the carbon removal process and discuss whether Direct Air Capture (DAC) is having a moment.
Listeners gain valuable insights into the current state of the market, funding trends, technological advancements, and the role played by XPRIZE in driving innovation. If you haven’t yet, read the full report here!
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Beast and Cleaver, a butcher shop and charcuterie in Seattle, is on a mission to elevate the craft of butchery to true artistry. They want you to eat meat of higher quality, and yes, less of it.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, the founder of Beast and Cleaver, Kevin Smith, joins Ross to discuss his butcher shop’s unique approach to localized meat production in a carbon heavy industry.
Have you heard the expression “it’s the how, not the cow”? That very much reflects Beast and Cleaver’s ethos. With more and more people eating meat globally as they gain access to financial means, the details of meat production become incredibly important. Part of the good news is that American consumers are increasingly interested in Old World food traditions of pâté and offal rather than merely prestige cuts, and even things like aspic that went deeply out of fashion decades ago are seemingly making a foodie comeback.
Kevin and Ross discuss the perception that major factory meat producers like Tyson and Smithfield Foods are incredibly efficient at using all parts of the animal. But are they in comparison to local, small-scale operations like Beast and Cleaver? They also discuss the challenges of running an artisanal meat business and how they are working to educate consumers about the benefits of sustainable meat production.
So if you're in the Seattle area and are a meat-eater (and enjoy classical charcuterie), be sure to check out Beast and Cleaver and get yourself a slice of pâté en croûte! Listen to the full episode to learn more about their innovative approach to localized meat production and learn how to possibly indulge with respect and care on your plate.
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PlantVillage won the Carbon XPRIZE milestone award in 2022, and was awarded one million dollars. It aims to lift 200 million African farming families out of poverty. They are working to capture and sell a billion tonnes of carbon per year using biochar sequestration by integrating trees with crops on farms and using lumber for biochar.
So what exactly is happening on the ground with biochar? And can we solve today's problems with the mindset that helped create them?
In today's Reversing Climate Change podcast, Dr. David Hughes, the Huck Chair in Global Food Security at Penn State University and Director of USAID Innovation Lab on Current and Emerging Threats to Crops, Founder of PlantVillage & Carbon4Good, describes how this program avoids middlemen and gets farmers paid directly for making biochar, how biochar improves soil health and provides additional income, and how the technique represents both climate adaptation, and mitigation.
David also goes on to fit biochar and soil health into the broader context of the global climate fight, international economics, and climate justice.
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What goes into the making of a carbon removal meme? How many pitches does it take before magic comes out? Why do some many captions end up as emojis?!
Nori's Memelab: Ross Kenyon, Siobhan Montoya Lavender, and Asa Kamer film their writer's room meeting on a lark to show how we go from a notion to something we think worthy of sharing with our community. Listen in to learn more, and also, respond to the survey in this episode to let us know if you like video podcasts, meme shows, etc. It is an experiment! Thanks for hanging with us.
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CarbonCapture is looking to build a large-scale direct air capture facility in Rock Springs, Wyoming, a town with deep roots in the coal industry.
And last fall, the company invited the community to a town hall event to learn more about the initiative, known as Project Bison, and its aim to remove five million tonnes of CO2 annually by 2030.
How did the people react to CarbonCapture’s plans? And what can the carbon removal industry learn from events like this?
Nicholas Kusnetz is an award-winning reporter for Inside Climate News. His work has appeared in more than a dozen publications, including The Washington Post, Business Week, and The New York Times.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nicholas joins guest hosts Asa Kamer and Siobhan Montoya Lavendar to discuss his December 2022 piece on CarbonCapture Inc’s Project Bison.
Nicholas discusses what CarbonCapture’s town hall event was like, describing the wide range of people who attended, and what questions they had for the presenter.
Listen in for Nicholas’ insight into other DAC projects taking place in fossil fuel country around the US and learn about the local tradeoffs facing communities at carbon capture sites.
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A massive amount of seaweed known as the Great Atlantic Sargassum Belt is growing as a response to climate change. To date, it has expanded to a width twice that of the United States.
When sargassum reaches the coast, it causes human health problems, destroys ecosystems, and wipes out tourism, usually in communities that don’t have the resources to combat the issue.
So, what can we do to prevent these destructive seaweed blobs from reaching coastal regions and remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere in the process?
Patricia Estridge and Mike Allen serve as CEO and Chief Science Officer, respectively, at Seaweed Generation, a startup using robotics and seaweed to fight climate change.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Patricia and Mike join Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain how their technology, a Pac-Man meets Roomba meets WALL-E style robot, collects seaweed and sinks it in the deep sea.
Patricia and Mike discuss Seaweed Generation’s pilot project with Antigua, describing the advantage their process may have over other methods of carbon removal and how they’ve been received by the community there.
Listen in for insight around the growing acceptance of open-systems pathways for carbon removal and learn how you can get involved in helping Seaweed Generation tackle the sargassum problem around the world.
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For people living in affluent parts of the world in the 21st century, we are used to preserving food by way of refrigeration.
But this technique is quite new when you consider that people have been preserving food through fermentation for at least 10,000 years.
Our ancestors experimented with fermenting to make food more delicious, more easily digestible, and more stable for storage. And there are many reasons why you might want to learn the process yourself.
Sandor Ellix Katz is a well-known food writer and self-taught fermentation experimentalist. He is the author of several books, including The Art of Fermentation, Wild Fermentation, and The Revolution will Not Be Microwaved.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Sandor joins Ross to explore the practical benefits of fermentation and explain how our disconnection from food systems contributes to our destruction of the environment.
Sandor explains why it’s valuable to maintain the cultural wisdom around preserving food through fermentation and how our health might improve if we relied less on refrigeration and more on fermenting.
Listen in for Sandor’s insight on the tradeoffs between pure culture starters versus wild fermentation and learn how to take the first steps in learning fermentation—and why it’s easier than you think!
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A lot of sci-fi writing focused on climate is high literary fiction, which means its aspirational is to be art, and can thus be difficult to understand.So, why don’t authors take on climate fiction from within the campy world of serialized genre fiction like detective novels, zombie apocalypses, or erotica?Is there a way to make climate fiction more playful without making light of climate change as a global issue?Daniel Backer is the novelist and literature educator behind Off the Wall Novels and the author of Abraham and Lionel Lancet and the Right Vibe.On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Daniel joins Ross to explore postmodern and metamodern literature, explaining the postmodern idea that myths guide our decision-making but also make us human.Daniel helps us make sense of Thomas Pynchon’s The Crying of Lot 49, discussing how it plays on the detective genre and why we find comfort in the familiarity of literary conventions.Listen in for Daniel’s take on how literature, at its best, comes from a place of character and learn how a writer might personalize the problem of climate change.Connect with NoriPurchase Nori Carbon RemovalsNori's websiteNori on TwitterCheck out our other podcast, Carbon Removal NewsroomCarbon Removal Memes on TwitterCarbon Removal Memes on InstagramResourcesDaniel’s WebsiteDaniel on InstagramDaniel on YouTubeDaniel on TikTokAbraham by Daniel BackerLionel Lancet and the Right Vibe by Daniel BackerThe Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley RobinsonThe Road by Cormac McCarthyInherent ViceThe Illuminatus Trilogy by Robert Anton WilsonV. by Thomas PynchonJordan PetersonOn Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense by Friedrich Nietzsche--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/reversingclimatechange/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/reversingclimatechange/support
In the last five years, an enormous amount of effort has been put into technical and scientific innovation around carbon removal.
But what about financial innovation?
How can we create more opportunities to finance carbon removal at scale? And what does innovation look like in carbon removal markets?
Peter Olivier is Head of New Markets at UNDO, a company that uses enhanced rock weathering to achieve carbon removal at scale.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross and Siobhan to describe the UNDO process, discussing the source of the rock UNDO uses, and why they partner with farmers to spread crushed rock on cropland.
Peter shares his take on the forward contract basis of the CDR market, exploring ‘the uncomfortably large amounts of money’ we need to scale and how we might make CDR forwards contracts more fungible.
Listen in for Peter’s insight on innovating CDR markets through donor-advised funds and find out how we might be able to influence the future by creating opportunities to finance carbon removal at scale!
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Carbon capture and storage, or CCS, involves sequestering carbon dioxide emissions from a point source, whereas carbon removal takes existing emissions out of ambient air.
And there are a lot of people in the climate community who are for carbon removal and against CCS, arguing that we should shut down these point sources and focus on renewable energy.
But is choosing sides the right thing to do?
Gagan Porrwal is Global Head of Partnerships for GE Gas Power's Carbon Solutions, where he is building an ecosystem of partners that enable, accelerate, and drive the adoption of CCS applications in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia, and the Asian Pacific.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change’s Happy Hour show, Gagan joins Ross and Siobhan to explain why we need CCS to meet our 2030 climate targets and how he thinks about capturing carbon in the flue versus ambient air.
Gagan discusses how much power is currently generated by coal or natural gas and describes the reality of how long it will take to transition to wind and solar.
Listen in to understand the four key problems facing CCS—social acceptance, economics, infrastructure, and permitting—and find out why we can’t transition to renewables tomorrow, but we can take the next rational step toward clean energy in any given geography.
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You can judge the progress of an industry by its number of sh*tty first drafts.
And if we have any hope of getting to gigatonne-scale carbon removal by 2030, we need a greater diversity of ideas in the CDR space. We need entrepreneurs who dare to think differently. We need more sh*tty first drafts.
So, what can we do to encourage this kind of radical risk-taking in carbon removal? Where can entrepreneurs, investors, and carbon removal buyers go to generate their sh*tty first drafts and then iterate on each other’s ideas together?
Adina Mangubat and Tito Jankowski are Accelerator Director and CEO, respectively, at AirMiners, a community that empowers people taking risks to accelerate the reversal of climate change through carbon removal.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Tito and Adina join Ross to discuss the AirMiners Launchpad business accelerator, explaining how it serves early-stage carbon removal startups and why it supports companies across the spectrum of permanence.
Tito describes his role in unlocking capital for early-stage CDR startups, exploring how AirMiners helps them sell future carbon credits as a complement to traditional equity investment.
Listen in for Adina’s insight around what buyers are looking for in carbon removal startups and learn how you can get involved in the AirMiners community and contribute to the queue of sh*tty first drafts we need to save the planet.
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Startups in the CDR space need to succeed quickly if we want to reverse climate change before time runs out.
But the current system requires that climatetech founders often devote time to pitching VCs and filling out multiple grant applications. Time that would be better spent developing their solutions.
So, what can we do to connect emerging carbon removal companies with the funding they need to move forward?
Neesha Mirchandani is Founder and CEO of Impact Stars, a consultancy that helps planet-positive entrepreneurs raise money and attract clients.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change Happy Hour, Neesha joins Ross, Siobhan and Asa to discuss the magnetic pitch method she uses to support CDR startups in attracting venture capital.
Neesha explains what VCs look for in a climate startup and shares her frustration with philanthropy’s failure to fill in the funding gaps.
Listen in to understand how we might streamline the grant application process for CDR entrepreneurs and get Neesha’s advice on how to apply business sense to your climate ventures!
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While large, industrial cheesemakers are known for consistency and scale, small operations like Uplands Cheese make boutique cheeses unique to the land where they’re produced.
And these small, pasture-based dairy farms have their own unique concerns when it comes to climate change.
So, how is extreme weather already affecting operations like Uplands Cheese? How does climate factor into future planning for a 300-acre dairy farm?
Cheesemaker Andy Hatch is Co-Owner at Uplands, a dairy farm and cheesemaking operation in Southern Wisconsin. Andy’s team produces two award-winning artisan cheeses, Pleasant Ridge Reserve and Rush Creek Reserve.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Andy joins Ross to explain why his team uses a seasonal model for cheesemaking, describing how Pleasant Ridge Reserve is made in the tradition of Alpine cheeses while Rush Creek is modeled after Vacherin Mont d’Or.
Andy discusses how warmer, wetter weather is impacting his cows and what Uplands Cheese is doing to reduce its carbon footprint.
Listen in for insight on trends in dairy farming influenced by climate change and learn how to support small dairy farmers like Andy who are good stewards of natural resources.
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Much has been written about the European Theater in World War II.
But the war in the Pacific Theater was the largest naval war ever fought. It covered the entire breadth of the Pacific Ocean, and much of the fighting took place in remote, wild environments.
How did the conflict impact those environments heretofore untouched by the outside world? And what about the Indigenous peoples who lived there?
Ian W. Toll is the author of Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the US Navy and the Pacific War Trilogy—Pacific Crucible, The Conquering Tide, and Twilight of the Gods.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ian joins Ross to explain how airbases were built on hundreds of Pacific islands during WWII and describe how the scale of development radically and irrevocably changed the ecosystems there.
Ian discusses how hundreds of shipwrecks from WWII have the potential to turn into environmental disasters at any time and weighs in on what we can do to avoid a modern-day war in the Pacific—and why it’s crucial.
Listen in for Ian’s insight on the logistical prowess of the US to ramp up shipbuilding during WWII and find out why Admiral Halsey ranked the bulldozer among the five most important weapons of the Pacific War.
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With a problem as monumental as the climate crisis, we have a tendency toward proportionality bias. We often believe that the issue has a single cause and can only be solved with a few large-scale solutions.
But in the case of climate change, a diversity of solutions may be faster and more effective than putting all our eggs in a few big baskets.
And that’s why Todd Myers focuses on what individuals can do to solve climate change—while the politicians slug it out over broad policy measures.
Todd serves as Environmental Director at the Washington Policy Center. He is also the author of the new book, Time to Think Small: How Nimble Environmental Technologies Can Solve the Planet’s Biggest Problems.
On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Todd joins Ross to explore how individual efforts can fill in the gaps left behind by government policies and explain how climate change differs from pollution in the 1970’s.
Todd discusses the data collected by citizen science apps like iNaturalist or eBird and describes how we can use both moral suasion and financial incentives to promote climate solutions.
Listen in for Todd’s insight on striking the right balance between private sector and government climate initiatives and learn how a business in the carbon removal space might identify the right scale for its unique solution.
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Of all philanthropy globally, only a couple percentage points go to climate in general. And of that couple percentage points, only something like 2% of climate giving is dedicated to carbon removal.
The problem is, we need to fund several gigatonnes of carbon removal per year by 2050 to combat climate change. And that’s going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars.
So, how do we encourage governments, corporations and philanthropists to support carbon removal? How might the average person make a tax-deductible donation to fund carbon removal?
Alex Roetter is Founder of Terraset, a new nonprofit climate fund that uses private philanthropy to invest in carbon removal projects.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Alex joins Ross to explain how the underfunding of carbon removal inspires his philanthropic work, and why reducing emissions alone is not enough to curb climate change.
Alex discusses the well-known donors and carbon removal providers Terraset is working with and describes the criteria his team uses to evaluate the projects they choose to fund.
Listen in to understand how giving to a 501(c)(3) makes your dollars go further and learn how to make your own tax-deductible carbon removal purchase through Terraset.
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Cheese can be both rarified and common. It is also an industry that impacts and is impacted by climate change.
Today’s guest is author and cheese expert, Liz Thorpe. Liz is known for working her way up at New York City’s Murray’s Cheese shop, and taking it from a specialty shop to kiosks in Kroger stores across America, making cheese accessible and available to the American general public.
Today, Liz serves as Founder of The People’s Cheese, a platform designed to teach a broader market why cheese matters and how to make it part of everyday life. She is also the author of The Book of Cheeseand The Cheese Chronicles.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Liz joins Ross to explain how she pushes back against an elitist interpretation of cheese, and explores how the American desire for choice and innovation translates to the cheese market in the US.
Liz discusses how our industrialized food system contributes to climate change and describes how government subsidies and taxes often exacerbate the problem. Some cheeses are becoming more available, and others less. How many cheeses are going extinct due to climate change among other factors?!
Listen in for Liz’s insight on the mission-driven nature of cheesemaking and learn how you can take advantage of the explosion of great cheese produced in the US in the last fifteen years.
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To tackle the climate change problem, we need to move traditional industries closer to net-zero and create new industries from scratch.
But how do you build a new carbon removal industry, for example? What is the best way to nurture startups in the climatetech space?
Jennifer Wagner is a Breakthrough Energy Business Fellow where she helps early-stage climatetech startups advance the groundbreaking technologies we need to reach net-zero by 2050.
Prior to joining Breakthrough, Jennifer served as VP of Sustainability, EVP of Corporate Development, and President of CarbonCure Technologies in her 12 years with the company.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jennifer joins Siobhan and Asa to walk us through the journey of a Breakthrough Energy Fellows startup and describe how the program supports its teams in scaling up.
Jennifer discusses the three teams with female founders she works with directly and explains how to work through a high volume of applicants and find the right people for your climate tech startup.
Listen in for Jennifer’s insight on securing funding for a carbon removal startup and find out how you can be part of the prestigious Breakthrough Energy Fellows program.
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The first cleantech bubble burst in the oughts, but the industry didn’t go away. And now, we’ve entered a second big wave of "climatetech" investment.
So, is this wave more promising than the first? Are we moving into a golden age for climatetech? Or is it too dissimilar to make comparisons?
Joel Makower is Cofounder and Chairman of GreenBiz, a leading media and events company at the intersection of business, sustainability, and innovation. He also serves as cohost of theGreenBiz 350 Podcast.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Joel joins Ross to discuss how climatetech may have followed the Gartner Hype Cycle and describe what factors caused the first cleantech bubble to burst.
Joel explains why corporations are much more involved in Cleantech 2.0 and explores the ongoing politicization of climate change, despite the efforts of some (like the military) to prepare for a climate crisis.
Listen in for Joel’s insight on the near future of climatetech and learn about the extraordinary opportunity he believes we have to reinvent our world in a way that will benefit everyone.
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Progressives generally support regulations that protect the environment.
But the permitting process has become so complex that it can take five years and 500 pages of documentation to get a project off the ground.
And that red tape is holding up the clean energy projects we need to reverse climate change.
Chris Barnard is Policy Director at the American Conservation Coalition and a regular guest on our sister podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Chris joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain how regulations can prevent us from building climate infrastructure and explore the potential for bipartisan collaboration on permitting reform.
Chris discusses how permitting interacts with issues of eminent domain and describes what community engagement looks like in the permitting process.
Listen in for Chris’s insight on the regulatory barriers to realizing carbon removal at scale and learn how we might streamline the permitting process without weakening environmental standards.
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Progressives generally support regulations that protect the environment.
But the permitting process has become so complex that it can take five years and 500 pages of documentation to get a project off the ground.
And that red tape is holding up the clean energy projects we need to reverse climate change.
Chris Barnard is Policy Director at the American Conservation Coalition and a regular guest on our sister podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Chris joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain how regulations can prevent us from building climate infrastructure and explore the potential for bipartisan collaboration on permitting reform.
Chris discusses how permitting interacts with issues of eminent domain and describes what community engagement looks like in the permitting process.
Listen in for Chris’s insight on the regulatory barriers to realizing carbon removal at scale and learn how we might streamline the permitting process without weakening environmental standards.
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As the number of blockchain-enabled climate solutions multiplies, founders need funding to get their projects off the ground.
Ben West is Head of Causes at Gitcoin, a company that helps early-stage crypto projects get funding. In his role, Ben supports Gitcoin’s climate solutions, DE&I, decentralized science, and advocacy rounds.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ben joins Ross and cohosts Alexsandra Guerra, Head of Demand, and Daren McKelvey, Head of Crypto Partnerships at Nori, to discuss the process grantees go through to win funding from Gitcoin.
Ben explains how his background in climate activism informs his work at Gitcoin and shares what he learned from researching blockchain-enabled climate solutions for the Ethereum Foundation.
Listen in for Ben’s insight on the growth of the overlap between climate and crypto and learn how your project can apply for Gitcoin’s next climate round.
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As the number of blockchain-enabled climate solutions multiplies, founders need funding to get their projects off the ground.
Ben West is Head of Causes at Gitcoin, a company that helps early-stage crypto projects get funding. In his role, Ben supports Gitcoin’s climate solutions, DE&I, decentralized science, and advocacy rounds.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ben joins Ross and cohosts Alexsandra Guerra, Head of Demand, and Daren McKelvey, Head of Crypto Partnerships at Nori, to discuss the process grantees go through to win funding from Gitcoin.
Ben explains how his background in climate activism informs his work at Gitcoin and shares what he learned from researching blockchain-enabled climate solutions for the Ethereum Foundation.
Listen in for Ben’s insight on the growth of the overlap between climate and crypto and learn how your project can apply for Gitcoin’s next climate round.
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To facilitate carbon removal at gigaton scale, we need investors to put their money in climate solutions.
But VCs are often used to investing in in bits, not atoms. Climatetech hardware is more expensive and more challenging to replicate than software in many cases. And it’s more challenging to achieve orders of magnitude growth in a physical environment than a digital one.
So, what is the best way to finance climate solutions?
Dr. Marcius Extavour, PhD, is Chief Scientist and EVP of Energy and Climate at XPRIZE, a nonprofit that facilitates large-scale global competitions to crowdsource solutions to the world’s greatest challenges.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Extavour joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explore the current landscape of climatetech investment and explains why he wants to see more women and underrepresented minorities in the capital system.
Dr. Extavour discusses the carbon removal projects that are farthest along in terms of capitalization and describes the opportunities for traditional finance to fund climate solutions.
Listen in for Dr. Extavour’s insight on applying the spirit of collective action from crypto to the climate space and learn how you might participate in funding climate solutions.
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Thanks a Ton
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COP27
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Carbon 180
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To facilitate carbon removal at gigaton scale, we need investors to put their money in climate solutions.
But VCs are often used to investing in in bits, not atoms. Climatetech hardware is more expensive and more challenging to replicate than software in many cases. And it’s more challenging to achieve orders of magnitude growth in a physical environment than a digital one.
So, what is the best way to finance climate solutions?
Dr. Marcius Extavour, PhD, is Chief Scientist and EVP of Energy and Climate at XPRIZE, a nonprofit that facilitates large-scale global competitions to crowdsource solutions to the world’s greatest challenges.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Extavour joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explore the current landscape of climatetech investment and explains why he wants to see more women and underrepresented minorities in the capital system.
Dr. Extavour discusses the carbon removal projects that are farthest along in terms of capitalization and describes the opportunities for traditional finance to fund climate solutions.
Listen in for Dr. Extavour’s insight on applying the spirit of collective action from crypto to the climate space and learn how you might participate in funding climate solutions.
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XPRIZE Foundation
Dr. Extavour on Twitter
Climate Tech VC Newsletter
Thanks a Ton
Dr. Extavour on Reversing Climate Change S3EP71
COP27
Rory Jacobson
Carbon 180
Carbon Engineering
Climeworks
Swiss Re
1PointFive
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Darwin and others theorized that evolution was about the survival of the fittest. But when Peter Kropotkin followed up on Darwin’s research, he discovered the competition was only part of the story of evolution in nature.
And Kropotkin argued that cooperation and collaboration among organisms also helps them evolve.
So, why is Darwin’s narrative the dominant one? And how can an understanding of mutualism help us protect the ecosystems we depend on and find solutions to climate change?
Kristin Ohlson is an award-winning freelance journalist and author of The Soil Will Save Us: How Scientists, Farmers, and Foodies are Healing the Soil to Save the Planet. Her new release is called Sweet in Tooth and Claw: Stories of Generosity and Cooperation in the Natural World.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Kristin joins Ross to explain why the study of mutualism in the evolution of nature has lagged, and challenge us to recognize and protect the cooperative relationships among organisms in our ecosystems.
Kristin shares some of her favorite stories from the book, describing how ranchers, scientists, and government leaders worked together to heal a degraded landscape in Eastern Nevada.
Listen in for Kristin’s insight on the growth of regenerative agriculture and learn how mutualism gives organisms superpowers as they work together to survive and thrive in extreme environments.
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Sweet in Tooth and Claw: Stories of Generosity and Cooperation in the Natural World by Kristin Ohlson
The Soil Will Save Us: How Scientists, Farmers, and Foodies are Healing the Soil to Save the Planet by Kristin Ohlson
Social Statics: The Conditions Essential to Human Happiness Specified, and the First of Them Developed by Herbert Spencer
Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution by Peter Kropotkin
The Biology of Mutualism: Ecology and Evolution by Douglas H. Boucher
Mutualism by Judith L. Bronstein
Gabe Brown on Reversing Climate Change S2EP31
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Darwin and others theorized that evolution was about the survival of the fittest. But when Peter Kropotkin followed up on Darwin’s research, he discovered the competition was only part of the story of evolution in nature.
And Kropotkin argued that cooperation and collaboration among organisms also helps them evolve.
So, why is Darwin’s narrative the dominant one? And how can an understanding of mutualism help us protect the ecosystems we depend on and find solutions to climate change?
Kristin Ohlson is an award-winning freelance journalist and author of The Soil Will Save Us: How Scientists, Farmers, and Foodies are Healing the Soil to Save the Planet. Her new release is called Sweet in Tooth and Claw: Stories of Generosity and Cooperation in the Natural World.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Kristin joins Ross to explain why the study of mutualism in the evolution of nature has lagged, and challenge us to recognize and protect the cooperative relationships among organisms in our ecosystems.
Kristin shares some of her favorite stories from the book, describing how ranchers, scientists, and government leaders worked together to heal a degraded landscape in Eastern Nevada.
Listen in for Kristin’s insight on the growth of regenerative agriculture and learn how mutualism gives organisms superpowers as they work together to survive and thrive in extreme environments.
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Kristin Ohlson
Sweet in Tooth and Claw: Stories of Generosity and Cooperation in the Natural World by Kristin Ohlson
The Soil Will Save Us: How Scientists, Farmers, and Foodies are Healing the Soil to Save the Planet by Kristin Ohlson
Social Statics: The Conditions Essential to Human Happiness Specified, and the First of Them Developed by Herbert Spencer
Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution by Peter Kropotkin
The Biology of Mutualism: Ecology and Evolution by Douglas H. Boucher
Mutualism by Judith L. Bronstein
Gabe Brown on Reversing Climate Change S2EP31
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When corn is harvested, the remaining corn stover either gets tilled into the soil or left on top.
But what if we took a portion of that corn stover, converted it into carbon-rich bio-oil, and pumped it deep underground?
Peter Reinhardt is Cofounder and CEO of Charm Industrial, a carbon removal company that is working on a fleet of mobile pyrolyzers that covert ag biomass into bio-oil and sequester it underground.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to walk us through the process Peter’s team uses to produce bio-oil and weigh in on why he refers to it as ‘BBQ sauce’ in his pitch for Charm.
Peter explains why Charm developed its own measurement, reporting, and verification (MRV) system and explores how much bio-feedstock is available for bio-oil production in the US and around the world.
Listen in to understand the big questions around IP in carbon removal and learn how Charm is turning biomass residue into bio-oil for use in carbon removal and other industrial applications like iron and steel.
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Charm Industrial
Charm Industrial’s MRV Protocol
Charm Industrial’s Carbon Removal Registry
Peter’s Blog Post on MRV
Thanks a Ton
Carbon Direct
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Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter
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When corn is harvested, the remaining corn stover either gets tilled into the soil or left on top.
But what if we took a portion of that corn stover, converted it into carbon-rich bio-oil, and pumped it deep underground?
Peter Reinhardt is Cofounder and CEO of Charm Industrial, a carbon removal company that is working on a fleet of mobile pyrolyzers that covert ag biomass into bio-oil and sequester it underground.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to walk us through the process Peter’s team uses to produce bio-oil and weigh in on why he refers to it as ‘BBQ sauce’ in his pitch for Charm.
Peter explains why Charm developed its own measurement, reporting, and verification (MRV) system and explores how much bio-feedstock is available for bio-oil production in the US and around the world.
Listen in to understand the big questions around IP in carbon removal and learn how Charm is turning biomass residue into bio-oil for use in carbon removal and other industrial applications like iron and steel.
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Resources
Charm Industrial
Charm Industrial’s MRV Protocol
Charm Industrial’s Carbon Removal Registry
Peter’s Blog Post on MRV
Thanks a Ton
Carbon Direct
Climeworks
Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
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Lyn Stoler and Sonam Velani have coined the phrase Climate Industrialism to describe the optimistic, action-oriented response to climate change they already see happening in many communities around the world.
Lyn and Sonam define Climate Industrialism as ‘a social and economic system built on the creation of climate technologies that yield human and environmental co-benefits.’
What does that mean, exactly? And how does Climate Industrialism create a virtuous cycle for companies building climate solutions and the cities where they choose to build?
Lyn and Sonam are the cocreators of Parachute, a research and storytelling project that shares climate solutions with local governments around the world to make our cities more beautiful, more livable, and more resilient.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Lyn and Sonam join Ross to explore their new model of Climate Industrialism and explain why cities need to take the lead on climate action.
Lyn and Sonam discuss the history behind the regulations and permitting processes that slow industrial building and describe how cities can attract talent by welcoming climate industries.
Listen in to understand the pros and cons of startup cities and learn what municipalities can do to promote both climate change mitigation as well as adaption and resilience through Climate Industrialism.
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Parachute
Lyn & Sonam’s Piece on Climate Industrialism
Lyn on Substack
Sonam on Substack
Zach Caceres’ Piece for a16z
UCLA Center for Healthy Climate Solutions
White House Accelerating Infrastructure Summit
The Network State: How to Start a New Country by Balaji Srinivasan
Paul Romer
Startup Cities
Charter Cities Institute
Culdesac Tempe
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Lyn Stoler and Sonam Velani have coined the phrase Climate Industrialism to describe the optimistic, action-oriented response to climate change they already see happening in many communities around the world.
Lyn and Sonam define Climate Industrialism as ‘a social and economic system built on the creation of climate technologies that yield human and environmental co-benefits.’
What does that mean, exactly? And how does Climate Industrialism create a virtuous cycle for companies building climate solutions and the cities where they choose to build?
Lyn and Sonam are the cocreators of Parachute, a research and storytelling project that shares climate solutions with local governments around the world to make our cities more beautiful, more livable, and more resilient.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Lyn and Sonam join Ross to explore their new model of Climate Industrialism and explain why cities need to take the lead on climate action.
Lyn and Sonam discuss the history behind the regulations and permitting processes that slow industrial building and describe how cities can attract talent by welcoming climate industries.
Listen in to understand the pros and cons of startup cities and learn what municipalities can do to promote both climate change mitigation as well as adaption and resilience through Climate Industrialism.
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Resources
Parachute
Lyn & Sonam’s Piece on Climate Industrialism
Lyn on Substack
Sonam on Substack
Zach Caceres’ Piece for a16z
UCLA Center for Healthy Climate Solutions
White House Accelerating Infrastructure Summit
The Network State: How to Start a New Country by Balaji Srinivasan
Paul Romer
Startup Cities
Charter Cities Institute
Culdesac Tempe
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Does the carbon removal tech you’re developing have a shot at being cost-competitive in the real world? How might you reduce the cost of a given CDR technology? And how do you convince government funders or investors that your carbon removal idea is viable?
A techno-economic assessment or TEA answers these questions.
So, what is involved in conducting a techno-economic assessment? And how might it help a startup improve the economic performance of its climate tech and maximize its impact?
Grant Faber is Founder and President of Carbon-Based Consulting, a firm that offers techno-economic assessments, early-stage emissions accounting, and market research for startups, investors, and environmental nonprofits in the CDR and CCUS space.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Grant joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain why an understanding of economics is crucial in carbon removal and how a TEA helps us determine the cost per tonne of carbon removal.
Grant walks us through the concept of learning rates, discussing why different technologies have different learning rates, and how founders might apply these principles to reduce costs.
Listen in for insight on the potentially arbitrary nature of life cycle assessments and learn how Grant can help your organization accelerate the commercialization of carbon removal technology.
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Carbon-Based Consulting
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Air Miners
Global CO2 Initiative
Global CO2 Initiative TEA Guidelines
AssessCCUS
Research by Jessika Trancik
Research by Greg Nemet
‘Factors Affecting the Cost of Airplanes’ in the Journal of Aeronautical Sciences
‘Evaluating the Causes of Cost Reduction in Photovoltaic Modules’ in Energy Policy
'I, Pencil'
Research by J. Doyne Farmer
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Does the carbon removal tech you’re developing have a shot at being cost-competitive in the real world? How might you reduce the cost of a given CDR technology? And how do you convince government funders or investors that your carbon removal idea is viable?
A techno-economic assessment or TEA answers these questions.
So, what is involved in conducting a techno-economic assessment? And how might it help a startup improve the economic performance of its climate tech and maximize its impact?
Grant Faber is Founder and President of Carbon-Based Consulting, a firm that offers techno-economic assessments, early-stage emissions accounting, and market research for startups, investors, and environmental nonprofits in the CDR and CCUS space.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Grant joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain why an understanding of economics is crucial in carbon removal and how a TEA helps us determine the cost per tonne of carbon removal.
Grant walks us through the concept of learning rates, discussing why different technologies have different learning rates, and how founders might apply these principles to reduce costs.
Listen in for insight on the potentially arbitrary nature of life cycle assessments and learn how Grant can help your organization accelerate the commercialization of carbon removal technology.
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Resources
Carbon-Based Consulting
Grant on LinkedIn
Air Miners
Global CO2 Initiative
Global CO2 Initiative TEA Guidelines
AssessCCUS
Research by Jessika Trancik
Research by Greg Nemet
‘Factors Affecting the Cost of Airplanes’ in the Journal of Aeronautical Sciences
‘Evaluating the Causes of Cost Reduction in Photovoltaic Modules’ in Energy Policy
'I, Pencil'
Research by J. Doyne Farmer
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The easier it is to participate in a sustainability program like Nori, the less motivation it requires for farmers to enroll.
But the current lack of digitization in the ag space makes it challenging for farmers to get paid for carbon removal.
So, is there an easy way to track agricultural data and compensate farmers for regenerative practices?
Dane Braun is Vice President of Product at Bushel, an ag software company that is digitizing the infrastructure for grain.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dane joins Ross and Nori team members Laura Satkowski and Jada Dormaier, to explain how our partnership with Bushel makes it easy for farmers to practice carbon removal.
Dane shares Bushel’s efforts to standardize and connect the many digital applications available to farmers and describes how growers might use data to make decisions around implementing regenerative practices.
Listen in to understand the parallels between how grain is priced as a commodity and the NORI token and learn how farmers might be able to benefit from being part of the Nori-Bushel partnership.
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Become a Nori Ag Supplier
Nori’s Partnership with FarmLogs by Bushel
Make Your Own Biochar on RCC S3EP25
Dane Braun on UNL’s FarmBits Podcast
FarmLogs
Fogg Behavior Model
Climate FieldView
John Deere Operations Center
Leaf Farm Data API
Iron Ox
USDA Census of Agriculture
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The easier it is to participate in a sustainability program like Nori, the less motivation it requires for farmers to enroll.
But the current lack of digitization in the ag space makes it challenging for farmers to get paid for carbon removal.
So, is there an easy way to track agricultural data and compensate farmers for regenerative practices?
Dane Braun is Vice President of Product at Bushel, an ag software company that is digitizing the infrastructure for grain.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dane joins Ross and Nori team members Laura Satkowski and Jada Dormaier, to explain how our partnership with Bushel makes it easy for farmers to practice carbon removal.
Dane shares Bushel’s efforts to standardize and connect the many digital applications available to farmers and describes how growers might use data to make decisions around implementing regenerative practices.
Listen in to understand the parallels between how grain is priced as a commodity and the NORI token and learn how farmers might be able to benefit from being part of the Nori-Bushel partnership.
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Resources
Bushel
Become a Nori Ag Supplier
Nori’s Partnership with FarmLogs by Bushel
Make Your Own Biochar on RCC S3EP25
Dane Braun on UNL’s FarmBits Podcast
FarmLogs
Fogg Behavior Model
Climate FieldView
John Deere Operations Center
Leaf Farm Data API
Iron Ox
USDA Census of Agriculture
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A lot of good comes from travel. It gives us a chance to disconnect and recharge. It exposes us to new things and helps us connect with nature and other people. Plus, we contribute to the local economies in the places we visit.
But travel is not always good for planet. And the climate-conscious among us often feel guilty about the emissions we create when we get on a plane or fill up at the pump for a road trip.
So, what can we do to make travel more environmentally friendly?
Christina Beckmann is the cocreator of Tomorrow’s Air, a collective for travelers and travel businesses to support the scale up of carbon removal technologies.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christina joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to discuss the layers of responsibility for climate change and who should be held accountable among travel operators, airlines, governments, and individual travelers.
Christina explains what differentiates the adventure travel community from more “consumptive” travelers and how Tomorrow’s Air is educating both groups about carbon removal technologies.
Listen in for insight on reducing your emissions when you travel and learn how to help Tomorrow’s Air build a community of carbon-removing travelers.
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Tomorrow’s Air Newsletter
Airrows on Air Podcast
The Adventure Travel Trade Association
UN World Tourism Organization
Annie Duke on RCC S3EP24
Brazil
Outside & ATTA Survey on Climate
McKinsey Skift Report on Net-Zero Travel
Intrepid Travel
Twelve
Climeworks
kimkim
Air Miners
Carbon Offsets on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
South Pole
Sustainable Travel Q&A
Jack Andreasen on RCC S3EP22 Bonus
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A lot of good comes from travel. It gives us a chance to disconnect and recharge. It exposes us to new things and helps us connect with nature and other people. Plus, we contribute to the local economies in the places we visit.
But travel is not always good for planet. And the climate-conscious among us often feel guilty about the emissions we create when we get on a plane or fill up at the pump for a road trip.
So, what can we do to make travel more environmentally friendly?
Christina Beckmann is the cocreator of Tomorrow’s Air, a collective for travelers and travel businesses to support the scale up of carbon removal technologies.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christina joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to discuss the layers of responsibility for climate change and who should be held accountable among travel operators, airlines, governments, and individual travelers.
Christina explains what differentiates the adventure travel community from more “consumptive” travelers and how Tomorrow’s Air is educating both groups about carbon removal technologies.
Listen in for insight on reducing your emissions when you travel and learn how to help Tomorrow’s Air build a community of carbon-removing travelers.
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Tomorrow’s Air
Tomorrow’s Air on Instagram
Tomorrow’s Air Newsletter
Airrows on Air Podcast
The Adventure Travel Trade Association
UN World Tourism Organization
Annie Duke on RCC S3EP24
Brazil
Outside & ATTA Survey on Climate
McKinsey Skift Report on Net-Zero Travel
Intrepid Travel
Twelve
Climeworks
kimkim
Air Miners
Carbon Offsets on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
South Pole
Sustainable Travel Q&A
Jack Andreasen on RCC S3EP22 Bonus
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Local governments are surprisingly powerful levers for carbon removal.
While large national governments can be slow and unwieldy, cities and counties can sometimes be much more nimble. They can get carbon removal projects off the ground quickly and share what they learn with other local governments.
So, which municipalities are taking the lead in the CDR space? And how do they integrate carbon removal in the local government landscape?
Susie Strife is the Boulder County Director of Sustainability, Climate Action and Resilience; Ramón DC Alatorre is Climate and Energy Coordinator for the City of Flagstaff; and Chris Neidl is Cofounder of OpenAir Collective.
Together, they are collaborators in forming the Four Corners Carbon Removal Coalition, an alliance of local governments that are pooling resources to fund CDR projects in the Four Corners region of the Southwest US.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Susie, Ramón, and Chris join Ross and Siobhan to explain why Flagstaff and Boulder are ahead of the curve when it comes to carbon removal.
They share the resistance they face when it comes to endorsing carbon offsets and explain how local governments can educate communities around carbon removal.
Listen in to understand why the Four Corners model focuses on funding carbon removal projects that can be replicated and learn how Susie, Ramón, and Chris support other jurisdictions in finding local applications of CDR.
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Four Corners Carbon Removal Coalition
OpenAir Collective
Boulder County Office of Sustainability, Climate Action and Resilience
Boulder County Climate on Twitter
Flagstaff Sustainability Office
Chris on Twitter
OpenAir CDR Series on YouTube
‘Local Governments Can Drive Carbon Dioxide Removal Innovation’
Flagstaff Climate Emergency Declaration
Carbon Offsets: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
Eli Mitchell-Larson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP62
Carbon Direct
The Oxford Offsetting Principles
Boulder County Climate Innovation Fund
Stripe Climate
Sustainable Cities Network
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There are few ways for individuals to participate in carbon removal. Typically, carbon removal is something that someone else does that you pay for.
But what if there was a way for you to practice carbon removal in your own backyard with biochar?
Connor Lascelles and Lottie Hawkins are the Cofounders of Earthly Biochar, a company that manufactures consumer-accessible biochar kilns.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Connor and Lottie join Ross and cohost Jada Dormaier, Supply Account Manager at Nori, to explain what differentiates biochar from charcoal and other soil amendments and how it benefits the soil.
Connor and Lottie describe the process of making your own biochar in an Earthly kiln, discussing where to go for feedstock, and how neighborhoods and municipalities might develop community biochar programs.
Listen in for insight on what questions to ask before you purchase biochar and learn how to try your hand at carbon removal with an Earthly kiln.
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Earthly Biochar
Earthly on Instagram
Ross’ Crow Story on Reversing Climate Change Happy Hour
Annalee Levin on Reversing Climate Change S2EP52
Top Lid Up Draft Biochar Machine on YouTube
Charles Dowding’s Charcoal Video
Josiah Hunt at Pacific Biochar
Make Soil
Compost Club
Stockholm Biochar Project
Exeter Biochar Retort Industrial Kiln
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We live in a culture that glamorizes grit and derides giving up. But in the world of climate startups, we can’t afford to spend time on projects that aren’t working.
So, how do you know when to quit?
Decision Strategist Annie Duke is a retired professional poker player and World Series of Poker bracelet holder. She is also the author of several books, including Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Annie joins Ross to explain how to apply decision-making skills from poker and her research in the context of a climate startup.
Annie walks us through her three strategies for deciding when to fold, challenging us to set explicit kill criteria and leverage the ‘monkeys and pedestals’ mental model to abandon projects that aren’t working.
Listen in for Annie’s insight on prioritizing moonshots that develop useful technology and learn how to persevere when projects are worthwhile—and walk away when they’re not.
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Annie’s Website
Books by Annie Duke
Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away by Annie Duke
How to Decide: Simple Tools for Making Better Choices by Annie Duke
Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don’t Have All the Facts by Annie Duke
Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction by Philip E. Tetlock and Dan Gardner
Ron Conway at SV Angel
Poker After Dark
Astro Teller at X
Project Loon
Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth
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Communicating the science behind climate change is a challenge.
But when you present these concepts in an artistic way and make the data beautiful, it’s more engaging and easier to understand. And more likely to inspire climate action.
Nicole Kelner is Artist-in-Residence at My Climate Journey, where she communicates the complex challenges of climate change in a beautiful, accessible way.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nicole joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explore why people are drawn to her watercolor representations of scientific data and explain her efforts to communicate climate concepts accurately.
Nicole describes how she incorporates humor in her artwork and brainstorms ideas for a potential collaboration with the Nori Meme Lab.
Listen in to understand how Nicole thinks about AI-generated art and learn how her work makes a meaningful difference in the fight against climate change.
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Resources
Nicole’s Website
Nicole on Twitter
Nicole on Instagram
Nicole’s Prints
Nicole’s Climate Merch
Nicole’s Commissions
Carbonfund
Carbon Collective
Climate Tech VC
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My Climate Journey
MCJ Climate Art Workshops
Thanks a Ton
Two Wolves Meme Template
Confessional Meme
‘Seaweed Ecosystems May Not Mitigate CO2 Emissions’ in ICES Journal of Marine Science
Midjourney
DALL-E
‘Colors of Climate: Nicole Kelner’s Watercolors Bring Calm to Images of Climate Change’ in The Verge
Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
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Nori lives at the intersection of climate and crypto, attempting to build a global commodities market for carbon removal on the blockchain.
And while we’ve discussed carbon removal at length on the podcast, we’ve spent less time exploring how one might use crypto to determine a reference price for carbon.
So, what does Nori look like under the hood? How can we use the blockchain as a tool to get the world’s atmospheric carbon balance back to 300 parts per million?
Chris Burniske is Partner at Placeholder VC, a venture capital firm that invests in decentralized networks and Web3 services, including Filecoin, Polkadot, and Nori.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Chris joins Ross and Nori CEO Paul Gambill to explain what differentiates our market-based system for valuing CO2 from other climatetech projects.
Chris and Paul discuss the potential to build a world of complex financial instruments around Nori and describe what market mechanisms one might use to create depth around the pricing of carbon-backed assets.
Listen in to understand how Nori might evolve to become a DAO and learn what distinguishes our approach from companies making advanced market commitments to carbon removal.
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Placeholder VC
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WeatherXM
Vera
The Gold Standard
Frontier Group
Uniswap
‘Isomorphism in DAO Governance’ by Mario Laul
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Reforestation (and afforestation) projects can take carbon out of the atmosphere. And yet, in our current system, sometimes only the largest, most well-connected projects can afford the verification process.
But what if there was a way to maintain the integrity of the MRV (Measurement, Reporting, and Verification) process, while making it accessible to anyone who wants to plant trees?
Jeremy Epstein is Head of Growth at Open Forest Protocol, a Web3 platform working to transparently measure, verify, and fund forestation projects.
On this CDR Happy Hour bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jeremy joins Ross and Siobhan to share his definition of regenerative finance and discuss the benefits of putting carbon markets on the blockchain.
Jeremy explains what differentiates OFP from other ReFi projects and explores whether or not derivatives can be good for carbon removal.
Listen in for insight on balancing accuracy with accessibility in carbon markets and learn how to help OFP build the future of distributed MRV.
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Resources
Open Forest Protocol
Thanks a Ton
John Oliver’s Piece on Carbon Offsets
Vera
The Gold Standard
OpenAir Collective
The Network State: How to Start a Country by Balaji Srinivasan
Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Edwin Lefevre
Jason Hochman on Reversing Climate Change S3EP20
Luke Wilson Meme Template
Siobhan’s TikTok on Photosynthesis
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As a nascent industry, carbon dioxide removal is often misunderstood by the general public.
And that makes CDR humor very niche. Maybe only 5% of people will understand it, but those who do really, really appreciate it.
Just go to a Halloween party dressed as the Climeworks stock photo, and you’ll see what we mean.
Jack Andreasen serves as Manager of Carbon Management in US Policy and Advocacy at Breakthrough Energy, an organization committed to scaling the technologies we need to reach net-zero emissions by 2050. He is also a prolific writer of memes in the CDR space.
On this edition of the Reversing Climate Change CDR Happy Hour, Nori Meme Lab colleagues Ross and Siobhan sit down with Jack to discuss what drew him to carbon dioxide removal and describe his role in ‘carbon middle management’ at Breakthrough.
Jack shares his frustration with having to defend CDR in conversations with people outside the space, explaining how he thinks about the criticisms of direct air capture and the misinformation perpetuated by the mainstream media.
Listen in to understand the range of opinions around the visual aesthetic of solar or wind farms versus DAC machines and get ideas for creating your very own meme-inspired CDR Halloween costume!
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Resources
Breakthrough Energy
Jack on Twitter
Jack on LinkedIn
Jack on Substack
‘Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Nancy Pelosi Leads Gazpacho Police’ in The Washington Post
Jason Hochman on Reversing Climate Change S3EP20
Climeworks
Carbon Engineering
Global Thermostat
Sustaera
Mission Zero Technologies
Verdox
Heirloom
John Oliver’s Piece on Carbon Offsets
Alex Grant on Twitter
Tangled Meme
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Do you wish your career was a little more gratifying? That it gave you the chance to work on something you really care about?
You don't need a science or engineering background to pursue a career in climate solutions. In fact, a variety of skill sets translate to climate work.
So, how do you get into the carbon removal space? Where can you go for resources and networking opportunities?
On this edition of the Reversing Climate Change CDR Happy Hour, Nori Meme Lab colleagues Asa Kamer and Siobhan Montoya Lavendar discuss their journey to a career in carbon removal, describing the college and early work experiences that inspired their work in the climate space.
Siobhan and Asa share the top resources for people interested in carbon removal and encourage us to check out the AirMiners community and OpenAir Collective for networking and volunteer opportunities.
Listen in for insight on who to follow for job openings in climate solutions and learn how to go about pursuing a career in the rapidly changing field of carbon removal.
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Thanks a Ton
Pitzer College
Cecil the Sagehen
California Wilderness Coalition
Pitzer College Ontario Program
Free Solo
AirMiners
AirMiners Boot Up
Work on Climate
Terra.do
OpenAir Collective
OpenAir’s CDR YouTube Channel
Inflation Reduction Act
Na’im Merchant on Twitter
Na’im Merchant’s Blog Carbon Curve
Climatebase
Siobhan Montoya Lavendar on TikTok
Heidi Lim on TikTok
Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
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On August 16, 2022, the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law. Whatever you might think about, this legislation is certainly the biggest step forward in climate action in our lifetimes.
But that’s not the only thing we have to talk about in the Nori Carbon Removal Meme Lab this week!
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross sits down with fellow memeologists, Siobhan Montoya Lavender and Asa Kamer, to revel in having our Lion King Meme featured on Zeke Hausfather’s Twitter response to a New York Times opinion piece against carbon capture and storage or CCS.
Ross, Siobhan, and Asa also discuss why academics in the carbon removal space have a growing bias toward high durability and high permanence, yet capital is flowing into natural climate solutions.
Listen in to understand the challenges around ton-year carbon accounting and learn about public reaction to the Inflation Reduction Act and how it finances clean energy.
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Resources
Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
‘Every Dollar Spent on This Climate Technology Is a Waste’ in The New York Times
Zeke Hausfather’s Twitter Thread
Jason Hochman on Reversing Climate Change S3EP20
John Daly Smoking Next to Tiger Woods Meme Template
Inflation Reduction Act
Dr. Julio Friedmann on Reversing Climate Change EP016
The Road to Ten Gigatons
NCX
Ton-Year Accounting on Carbon Removal Newsroom
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For climate startups to find customers, attract talent, and secure funding, they need to communicate their value effectively.
But how do you deliver content that explains complex ideas in an accessible way? How do you synthesize information to appeal to a variety of audiences?
Nick Van Osdol is a writer on the Nori team, the creator of the Keep Cool newsletter, and host of The Keep Cool Show, a podcast that gives promising climate tech startups an opportunity to pitch investors.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nick joins Ross to explain why communications is an undervalued sector within the climate space and discuss his work on the forthcoming updated version of the Nori white paper.
Nick shares his interest in how the Inflation Reduction Act’s $370B for climate action will be deployed and describes the challenge of scaling supply to accommodate Advanced Market Commitments to buy carbon credits.
Listen in for Nick’s take on pragmatism versus idealism in the climate space and learn how a talented content creator thinks about the geopolitical implications of scaling renewable energy.
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Resources
Keep Cool Newsletter
The Keep Cool Show
Nick on Twitter
Nori Whitepaper (this is the old version but we will update with the new version when it is published)
The Network State by Balaji Srinivasan
Head of Brand Marketing Opening at Nori
Pique Action
Sullivan’s Travels
Inflation Reduction Act
Watershed
Climatebase
Evan Hynes on Reversing Climate Change
Stanford 100% Renewables Study
The End of the World Is Just the Beginning by Peter Zeihan
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How do you create original content in the carbon removal space?
In its podcast content, the Nori creative team looks for unique voices, encouraging guests on Reversing Climate Change and Carbon Removal Newsroom to explore nuance.
As for their carbon removal memes, the writers are currently mining the movies they watch with their kids and popular online satirical humor (think The Onion and Reductress) for ideas.
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross sits down with his colleagues in the Nori Meme Lab, Siobhan Montoya Lavender and Asa Kamer, to discuss why ascribing agency to CO2 is funny and describe how they look for meme potential in cinema—not to be confused with Krysten Sinema, though they have insight on her too.
Ross, Siobhan, and Asa offer stories of celebrity sightings and consider who qualifies as a ‘climate celeb,’ sharing examples of the academics and podcast guests they’re guilty of gushing over.
Listen in to understand how we showcase productive disagreement in both Nori podcasts and get in on the Meme Lab team’s latest ideas for carbon removal meme threads, including ClickHole-style headlines and recaptioning existing satirical content.
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Resources
Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
Nathan For You Meme
An Inconvenient Truth
Air Miners
Founder’s Summit
Dennis Baldocci on ResearchGate
Elizabeth Kolbert on Reversing Climate Change S2EP50
Mark Bittman on Reversing Climate Change S2EP69
David Ho on Carbon Removal Newsroom S3EP41
Holly Buck
Chris Barnard
The Onion
ClickHole
Stubborn Little Leisure Lords on ClickHole
Let’s Rank the Religions on ClickHole
The Needling
Reductress Meme
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Direct air capture (DAC) is growing in popularity around the world, and it is an important tool for reducing CO2 in the atmosphere.
But 30% of all the carbon dioxide we’ve emitted to date is stored in the ocean.
So, what can we do to sequester CO2 from ocean water? Is the technology similar to that of direct air capture? How does the process work?
Steve Oldham is former CEO of DAC pioneer Carbon Engineering and current CEO of Captura, a startup working to capture carbon dioxide from our oceans at scale.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Steve joins Ross and cohost Radhika Moolgavkar, Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori, to explain what he believes may make direct ocean capture cheaper and easier than DAC.
Steve discusses how the natural equilibrium between the ocean and the atmosphere provides an opportunity for carbon removal and describes how his team evaluates candidate sites with a focus on existing oil and gas infrastructure.
Listen in for Steve’s insight on the greatest challenges facing carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and learn how Captura’s signature electrodialysis process captures CO2 while attempting to avoid disrupting the ocean.
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Most carbon removal content is highly technical and very serious.
But it doesn’t have to be.
So, what would it look like to produce carbon removal content that is a little looser? A little less informational? A little more appealing to a lay audience? And a little more fun?
On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross sits down with fellow memeologist and Thanks a Ton Cofounder Siobhan Montoya Lavender to have an informal conversation that infuses some fun in the carbon removal community.
Ross and Siobhan discuss how they think about choosing between science and funny in the context of a meme and describe the value in producing content that is less utilitarian and more accessible to the general population.
Listen in for the story of Ross’ harrowing experience with a group of very aggressive crows and enjoy 30 minutes of lighthearted carbon removal content!
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Resources
Thanks a Ton
‘Moisture Swing Sorbent for Carbon Dioxide Capture from Ambient Air’ in Environmental Science & Technology
Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
IPCC Reports
Air Miners
Na’im Merchant
The Carbon Curve Podcast
Migratory Bird Treaty Act
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The direct air capture industry is attempting to recreate the oil and gas sector in reverse—at a highly accelerated rate.
And those of us in the space have a tremendous opportunity to build something truly impactful.
But how do we educate the general public around the carbon removal technologies at our disposal? Can a well-crafted meme help people understand the benefits of direct air capture?
Jason Hochman is Cofounder and Senior Director of the recently launched Direct Air Capture Coalition, a global nonprofit working to educate, engage, and mobilize society around the deployment of DAC technology at the pace and scale the climate crisis requires. He also happens to be an accomplished mememaker in the carbon removal space.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jason joins Ross and cohost Siobhan Montoya Lavender to do a live meme workshop, sharing his approach to writing DAC-themed memes for popular Simpsons and Sith Kermit templates.
Jason discusses the early growth of the Direct Air Capture Coalition, describing how it seeks to serve as an educational resource and platform for collaboration among its 44 member organizations.
Listen in to understand the biggest problems facing the mass adoption of direct air capture and learn how Jason is addressing pushback on DAC with resources like the DAC Report Library as well as his CDR 101 meme thread.
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Resources
Direct Air Capture Coalition
DAC FAQ
DAC Report Library
DAC Company Directory
Jason on Twitter
Jason’s CDR 101 Meme Thread
Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
Carbon Removal Memes on Reversing Climate Change S3EP18
Thanks a Ton
Air Miners
OpenAir Collective
Groundskeeper Willie -- Damn Scots
The Four Corners Coalition
Carbon180
Clean Air Task Force
Rocky Mountain Institute
Climeworks
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As a consumer who cares about climate change, you may be shopping for organic, local, or even regenerative food products. But does your support of sustainable agriculture extend to wine?
How does a winemaker earn the certified sustainable distinction? And what does sustainable viticulture look like?
Steve Lohr is President and CEO of J. Lohr Vineyards and Wines, a winemaking operation with vineyards in Monterey County, Paso Robles, and Napa Valley, California. J. Lohr is dedicated to sustainability and the environment, and Steve’s team earned the 2020 Green Medal Leader Award from the California Sustainable Winegrowing Alliance.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Steve joins Ross to discuss J. Lohr’s sustainability practices, describing how an operation of scale can make large investments in sustainable practices in an attempt to move the needle, and why Steve believes in sustainability at any size of business. How much of a business attempting sustainability is cost-saving and how much is brand value?
Listen in for insight on how installing a solar tracking array reduced J. Lohr’s electric bill by an order of magnitude and get Steve’s advice on how to get started with drinking sustainable wines.
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J. Lohr Vineyards & Wines
J. Lohr’s Sustainability Initiatives
J. Lohr on Twitter
J. Lohr on Instagram
Paul Wagner on Reversing Climate Change S3EP10
Other Homes and Garbage: Designs for Self-Sufficient Living by Jim Leckle, Gill Masters, Harry Whitehouse and Lily Young
California Sustainable Winegrowing Alliance
Vineyard Team
LODI RULES
Napa Green
LIVE
J. Lohr’s Certified Sustainable Merlot
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Here at Nori, we take climate change very seriously. But we don’t want to take ourselves too seriously.
So, we developed the Memelab as a way to engage with other carbon removal enthusiasts and introduce a new audience the idea of removing CO2 from the atmosphere—with humor.
Asa Kamer is Producer of the Carbon Removal Newsroom podcast. Siobhan Montoya Lavendar is Cofounder at Thanks a Ton. And they are both part of the writing team for Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Asa and Siobhan join Ross to share the origin of Nori’s Carbon Removal Memelab and explain why it’s so challenging to identify what makes a successful meme.
Asa, Siobhan, and Ross describe the important role comedy can play in reversing climate change, discussing why self-deprecating humor works better than being mean, and how they iterate on a joke to be funny without being offensive.
Listen in for insight around why it's fun to riff on common objections to carbon removal and learn how to engage with our memes on your social media platform of choice.
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Resources
@CO2RemovalMemes on Twitter
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
Air Miners
Thanks a Ton
Lower Carbon
Carbon Removal Academy
Trailer Park Boys Meme
Bugs Bunny Meme
All About Me! by Mel Brooks
Jewish Comedy: A Serious History by Jeremy Dauber
Mean Girls Meme
Dr. Julio Friedmann on Reversing Climate Change EP016
Jane Flegal on Reversing Climate Change EP005
Titanic Meme
Mark Jacobson
The Office BFFs by Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey
YouTube Dominos Meme
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"We humans are just specks of dust on a slightly bigger speck of dust in the immeasurable vastness of space. We can't cause stars to
explode, we don't set the wheels of galaxies spinning, and it is not we who span the vault of heaven above us. But we can marvel at the
universe and ask questions about it. We can have faith, hope, and love in this world-and this makes us stardust of a very special kind."
—Dr. Heino Falcke
We tend to think that science and spirituality are mutually exclusive. But for Dr. Heino Falcke, a belief in something bigger complements his understanding of the universe.
Dr. Falcke is a Professor of Astroparticle Physics and Radio Astronomy at Radboud University. He is also the author of Light in the Darkness: Black Holes, the Universe, and Us.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Falcke joins Ross and cohost and Nori advisor David Addison to discuss the origin of carbon molecules and describe what drew him to the study of black holes.
Dr. Falcke explains how he captured the first photograph of a black hole through the Event Horizon Telescope project, sharing what he learned from collaborating with 350 other astrophysicists on EHT and how we might apply those learnings to other global challenges like climate change.
Listen in to understand why the complex systems of the universe are inherently unpredictable and learn how Dr. Falcke bridges the gap between the scientific and the spiritual world.
Resources
Light in the Darkness: Black Holes, the Universe, and Us by Heino Falcke
Dr. Falcke on Twitter
Dr. Falcke on Instagram
Dr. Falcke on Facebook
Dr. Falcke’s Website
David Grinspoon
Reinhard Genzel
‘Viewing the Shadow of the Black Hole at the Galactic Center’ in The Astrophysical Journal
Press Conference Introducing the First Image of the Black Hole
‘First Image of a Black Hole Gets a Polarizing Update That Sheds Light on Magnetic Fields’ on Space.com
Peter Brannen on Reversing Climate Change EP087
Event Horizon Telescope Project
Johannes Kepler
Sir Isaac Newton
Contact
Contact: A Novel by Carl Sagan
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The Green Revolution in the second half of the 20th century was seen as an important solution to the problem of malnutrition in the developing world at the time.
And while it may have succeeded in staving off hunger, the industrialization of agriculture created a whole new set of problems, chief among them a lack of diversity in our food system.
Why does this matter? What is the food monoculture costing us? And what can we do to bring back some of the diverse foodways we’ve lost along the way?
Dan Saladino is the renowned food journalist behind BBC Radio 4’s The Food Programmeand author of Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dan joins Ross to explain why we so desperately need biodiversity in our food system, exploring why diverse foods may taste better, and could be better for us.
Dan walks us through several examples of rare foods discussed in his book and offers insight on the people working to revive old foodways.
Listen in to understand how the war in Ukraine is causing a food crisis and learn what we can do to create a system that is more resilient, more robust, and healthier—both for people and the planet.
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Resources
Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them by Dan Saladino
The Food Programme
Slow Food International
Ark of Taste
Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew Research
Stichelton Dairy
The Dark Matter of Nutrition
Vavilov Institute
UN World Food Programme
Consider the Axe: Food, Farming and the Wonders of Stonehenge on The Food Programme
Heritage Seed Library
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Many of the artists and creators who mint nonfungible tokens (NFTs) are concerned about the environmental impact of the blockchain.
But what if they could pair carbon removal with any given NFT to make it carbon-negative?
Alexander Salnikov is Cofounder and Chief Strategy Officer at Rarible: a multichain, community-centric NFT marketplace.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Alexander joins Ross and cohost Alexsandra Guerra, Nori’s Director of Corporate Development, to discuss the partnership between Nori and Rarible, describing how it affords Rarible users the opportunity to address their carbon footprint.
Alexander explains how NFTs function as an effective way to store assets on the blockchain, exploring the many different use cases for NFTs, and how having access to a community is attracting new users to the space.
Listen in for Alexander’s insight around the future of NFTs and learn how blockchain technology might be used to make all our systems more transparent, faster, and more efficient.
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Rarible
Rarible’s Partnership with Nori
Bored Ape Yacht Club
CryptoKitties
Aspen Ideas Climate Conference
Ready Player One
Retina Ghost: creator of the Nori Proof-of-Attendance NFTs from the Miami event
Nori Token Pre-Launch Carnival Recap
Jesse Smith on Reversing Climate Change S3EP12
Ross’s Nori Logo Graveyard NFT
Digital Gold: Bitcoin and the Inside Story of the Misfits and Millionaires Trying to Reinvent Money by Nathaniel Popper
Doodles
NFT.NYC
Art Basel
Imogen Heap on Reversing Climate Change S2EP72
Aragon Court
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Mónica Guzmán has some difficult conversations with her parents. She’s a liberal Democrat, while her mom and dad voted enthusiastically for Trump both times.
So, how does she bridge the political divide and maintain a loving relationship with her parents, despite their differences of opinion?
And what can you and I do to develop intellectual curiosity and see difficult issues from different points of view?
Mónica is the Digital Director at Braver Angels , the nation’s largest nonprofit working to depolarize America. She is also the author of the new book, I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mónica joins Ross to discuss how she navigates the relationship with her conservative Republican parents, describing why it’s important to maintain connections with friends and family who don’t see things the way you do.
Mónica explains how condescension and curiosity are mutually exclusive, challenging us to begin conversations by believing that the other person’s perspective is valid and asking questions around how they came to their beliefs.
Listen in to understand how the more facets of an issue you see, the closer you are to the truth, and learn how to be open to influence or new information that might change your opinion.
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I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times by Monica Guzman
Braver Angels
Monica on Braver Angels
Monica’s Website
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A long-term study of climate and conflict determined that in places with large populations and a history of political exclusion of ethnic groups, nearly one-third of the wars initiated in the last 40 years were preceded by a climate disaster.
So, what is the connection between climate emergencies and armed conflict? Why do climate disasters escalate political disputes? And what can we do about it?
Scott Carney is an investigative journalist, anthropologist, and New York Times bestselling author. Dr. Jason Miklian serves as a senior researcher at the Center for Development and the Environment at the University of Oslo. Together they are the authors of The Vortex: A True Story of History’s Deadliest Storm, an Unspeakable War, and Liberation.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Scott and Jason join Ross to discuss the geopolitical landscape of South Asia after World War II and explain how the 1970 Bhola Cyclone led to the genocide of 3 million people and triggered the Indo-Pakistani War.
Scott and Jason describe how the conflict between West Pakistan, East Pakistan (later, Bangladesh) and India played out geopolitically with the Cold War between the US and the Soviet Union and offer insight into President Nixon and Pakistani President Yahya Khan’s roles in furthering the Sino-Soviet split.
Listen in to understand why climate disasters serve as catalysts for war, what lessons we can learn from the fight for Bangladesh, and what we can do to prevent armed conflict in the wake of climate emergencies moving forward.
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The Vortex: A True Story of History’s Deadliest Storm, an Unspeakable War, and Liberation by Scott Carney and Jason Miklian
Scott Carney
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Center for Development and the Environment at the University of Oslo
What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude, and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength by Scott Carney
Train to Pakistan by Khushwant Singh
George Kennan and Containment
The Sino-Soviet Split
‘Fortress India: Why Is Delhi Building a Berline Wall to Keep Out Its Bangladeshi Neighbors?’ in Foreign Policy
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
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What is the gap between what farmers know now and what they need to know to farm more regeneratively? How do we close that gap?
What is the best way to advocate for the adoption of regenerative agriculture practices?
Jesse Smith is the Director of Land Stewardship at White Buffalo Land Trust, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to practicing, promoting and perfecting the principles and practices of regenerative ag.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jesse joins Ross to explain how WBLT furthers regenerative ag through the development of products, training programs, and scientific research.
Jesse shares WBLT’s focus on teaching the integration of annual and perennial cropping with animal systems and offers advice on attracting young engineers, scientists, and creative artists to the regenerative ag space.
He goes on to discuss the benefit of ecosystem service payments, describing what he views as the unfair advantage producers have in regions with a higher potential for carbon sequestration and what markets like Nori can do about it.
Listen in for Jesse’s insight on using distributed ledger technology and blockchain to support regenerative ag and learn how you can support White Buffalo Land Trust and its consumer-facing brand, Figure Ate Foods.
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Roots of the Future II Event
Savory Institute
Kiss the Ground
The Biggest Little Farm
Leah Penniman on Reversing Climate Change S2EP57
Books by Bill Mollison
Rudolf Steiner
Center for Regenerative Agriculture at Jalama Canyon Ranch
California’s Healthy Soils Program
The NRCS EQIP Program
The NRCS Conservation Stewardship Program
USDA Local Food Promotion Program
Regen Network
How a Warming Climate Is Changing Wine on Reversing Climate Change S3EP10
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What inspires a farmer to monetize soil carbon?
For those already implementing regenerative practices and collecting the associated data, selling carbon credits provides an additional income stream, rewarding farmers for sequestering carbon in the soil, and potentially encourages new adopters to join.
And that's on top of the money they’re already saving through practices like no-till planting and cover cropping.
Cory Willis is a farmer at Nori supplier Willis Farms, a multigenerational, family owned and operated farm in Southern Middle Tennessee. In its 70-year history, Willis Farms has grown to nearly 4,000 acres of productive cropland and pasture, and Cory’s family uses regenerative methods on every acre under their care.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Cory joins Ross and Nori Supply Account Manger Sean Foster to discuss the history of farming in the Willis family, describing when they started using regenerative agriculture and how the practices benefit their operation.
Cory shares his experience working with Sean and the rest of the Nori team, explaining what inspired his interest in monetizing soil carbon, and why partnering with us was the right decision for Willis Farms. How does Nori’s cryptocurrency token affect how he views the risk of participation in Nori?
Listen in for Cory’s advice to farmers considering regenerative ag and find out what Willis Farms is doing with the extra income from selling carbon credits on the Nori marketplace.
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The Rhône Valley of France is famous for its Syrah, Grenache, and Viognier grapes (among others), while Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon, and Cab Franc (et al!) are grown in Bordeaux. And these wine grapes have thrived in their respective regions for centuries.
But what happens when rising temperatures change the kinds of grapes that can be grown in a particular area?
How is the climate crisis changing the way wine is produced? And what can we do as consumers to promote sustainability among winemakers?
Paul Wagner is a Viticulture and Winery Technology Instructor at Napa Valley College and Cohost of Bottle Talk with Rick and Paul. He also serves as guest lecturer at multiple universities in Europe and the US and offers several wine-related courses as part of The Great Courses lecture series.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul joins Ross to explain what attracts him to the artistry and experience of winemaking, exploring what makes wine grapes sweeter than any other fruit and how they give you a sense of both place and time.
Paul describes how climate is changing the way wine is made everywhere in the world, discussing what winemakers are doing to avoid rising temperatures and how the climate crisis might influence the evolution of wine in places like Bordeaux and Rhone.
Listen in for insight on how climate informs the alcohol content in wine and get Paul’s advice for the environmentally conscious on choosing a wine you like—and then finding a winemaker who’s working toward carbon neutrality.
(Wine is discussed for its own sake for the first twenty or so minutes. If you want to skip right to the intersection with climate, it begins at 24:32.)
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Bottle Talk with Rick & Paul
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Paul Wagner Wine
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Robert Mondavi
Napa Valley College Viticulture & Winery Technology Department
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking by Samin Nosrat
Decanter World Wine Awards
Familia Torres: Wine & Climate Change
Wine Folly: The Essential Guide to Wine by Madeline Puckette and Justin Hammack
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Carbon Removal Newsroom, the sister podcast to Reversing Climate Change, was born out of a desire to explore current events in the carbon removal space from a policy perspective.
But since the show debuted in early 2019, its production team has evolved and so has our approach to discussing the latest in climate news.
Radhika Moolgavkar is Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori and Host of Carbon Removal Newsroom, and Asa Kamer serves as Producer of CRN.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Radhika and Asa join Ross to explain how CRN evolved to focus on the business, policy, and science of carbon removal news and share their favorite episodes from the recent past.
Radhika and Asa explore how podcasting facilitates thoughtful public conversations around meaningful issues and describe how a show benefits when its host approaches the subject matter with a beginner’s mind.
Listen in to understand how CRN stays up on big news in the industry and get Radhika and Asa’s take on the future of carbon removal.
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Political Climate
The Energy Gang
Holly Jean Buck
Chris Barnard at the American Conservation Coalition
Susan Su
Jane Zelikova
The Boom in Carbon Removal Legislation and Funding on CRN EP045
Noah McQueen of Heirloom on CRN S3EP28
OpenAir’s Toby Bryce on CRN S3EP29
Chan-Zuckerburg Initiative Invests $44M in Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP30
Ocean-Based Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP32
Ton-Year Accounting with Carbon Direct on CRN S3EP31
Eight DAC Companies to Watch in 2022 on CRN S3EP27
Forest Carbon Over-Crediting on CRN S3EP21
Climate Reparations on CRN S3EP26
Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram
Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Facebook
Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Twitter
OpenAir Collective
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Kelp could be an extraordinary tool for long-term carbon sequestration. It also happens to be delicious.
And that’s why Matt Kern is on a mission to promote kelp farming in his home state of Alaska and replace some of the more carbon-intensive foods in our diet with seaweed.
Matt Kern is the Cofounder of Barnacle Foods, a food manufacturing business based in Juneau that uses Alaskan kelp as its principal ingredient.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross to discuss how his team sources kelp in a sustainable way and describe what differentiates foraged food from farmed.
Matt explores why seaweed is not more popular in the US and explains what Barnacle Foods is doing to introduce consumers to the savory, rich flavors of bull kelp.
Listen in to understand what makes kelp a fast, efficient tool for carbon sequestration and find out where you can go to try Barnacle Foods’ hot sauce, seasonings, pickles, and other provisions.
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We have talked at length on previous episodes about the flaws in compliance markets. And the team at Nori obviously believes in voluntary carbon markets, as we’re building one ourselves.
But there’s a wide range of quality among voluntary markets, and the space is 1,000 times smaller than the compliance programs in progress around the world.
So, have cap-and-trade markets contributed to a meaningful reduction in emissions in spite of their flaws? And are compliance markets the only way to address carbon emissions at scale?
Michael Azlen is the Founder and CEO of Cabon Cap Management LLP and Co-Portfolio Manager of the World Carbon Fund. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Michael joins Ross and guest cohost Aldyen Donnelly to explain how he got interested in carbon as an asset class and share his take on the benefits of compliance markets.
Aldyen offers insight on the two compliance market models, describing the problems associated with programs modeled after the SO2 Allowance Market—and why she prefers the framework of the Montreal Protocol.
Listen in to understand how Michael thinks about regulating voluntary carbon markets and why he is optimistic about the global growth in compliance markets despite their imperfections.
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Carbon Cap Management
Climate-Crypto, COP26, and Carbon Accounting Rules on Reversing Climate Change S3EP1
Michael’s Paper on Carbon as an Emerging Asset Class
World Carbon Fund
The US Acid Rain SO2 Allowance Market
The Montreal Protocol
EU Emissions Trading System
Fit for 55
Kyoto Protocol
Clean Air Interstate Rule
Cross-State Air Pollution Rule
The Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative
California’s Cap-and-Trade Program
California Scoping Plan Documents
UK Emissions Trading Scheme
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When Nori awards carbon credits, of course, we want to be as precise as possible and ensure that each Nori Carbon Removal Tonne or NRT actually represents a metric tonne of carbon removed from the atmosphere and retained in the soil.
At the same time, we can’t let perfect be the enemy of the good, and right now, soil sampling for carbon is imprecise and incredibly expensive.
So, rather than wait for soil science to catch up, we’re incentivizing farmers to implement regenerative ag practices NOW. How do we quantify carbon in the soil? And what constraints of running a business factored into our decision?
Rebekah Carlson is the Agriculture Supply Lead at Nori and author of the recent Medium piece, ‘Nori’s Stance on Soil Sampling: Why Soil Sampling Isn’t (Yet) a Silver Bullet for Carbon Credits.’ On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, she sits down with Ross to discuss the two different schools of thought for measuring soil carbon and explain why Nori uses modeling rather than soil sampling.
Rebekah describes the network of soil sample research stations that feed into crop models and responds to the argument that modeling is a ‘cop out.’
Listen in for insight into the COMET-Farm modeling tool Nori uses to measure soil carbon and get Rebekah’s predictions for when soil sampling might be precise, cheap, and scalable enough to work in our carbon removal marketplace.
Key Takeaways
[0:32] Why Rebekah wrote the Medium article, ‘Nori’s Stance on Soil Sampling’
[2:40] The 2 schools of thought for measuring soil carbon—crop modeling vs. soil sampling
[5:29] The pros and cons of soil sampling
[7:28] What factors might cause an inaccurate soil sample
[8:54] The network of soil sample research stations that feed into crop models and why some areas have more research stations than others
[10:55] Why it makes more sense for Nori to use crop modeling to measure soil carbon and Rebekah’s response to the argument that crop modeling is a ‘cop out’
[13:47] The challenge around setting aside a parcel of land as a control in soil sampling
[16:04] The COMET-Farm modeling tool Nori uses to measure soil carbon and award carbon credits/acre
[18:24] Why it’s not feasible to verify modeling with direct measurement
[20:08] The handheld soil sampling devices and satellite and drone technologies being developed to measure soil carbon
[21:11] Why Rebekah anticipates that soil sampling will get more precise over time
[22:48] Why Nori can’t wait for soil science to solve the issues around precision and permanence
[25:18] Rebekah’s prediction that the future holds better tools and more standardization re: what it means to measure carbon in the soil
[26:39] How long it might take for soil sampling to be precise, cheap and scalable
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80% of Indigenous people sit on 80% of global biodiversity and 25% of land—but make up only 5% of the population.
So, what can we learn about regenerative agriculture from the Native American farmers who’ve been managing our land for millennia?
Dr. Michael Kotutwa Johnson has a PhD in Natural Resources and is a traditional Hopi dryland farmer. Dr. Johnson regularly lectures on the topic of dryland farming and advocates for indigenous farmers with the Natural Resource Conservation Service, and his work is featured in the documentary film, INHABITANTS: Indigenous Perspectives on Restoring Our World.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Johnson joins Ross and cohost Rebekah Carlson, Agriculture Supply Lead at Nori, to explain how his ancestors learned to raise crops in the arid environment of Northern Arizona and what we can do to honor the long heritage of regenerative agriculture.
Dr. Johnson discusses the benefit of applying Indigenous traditional ecological knowledge in federal decision-making, sharing his place-based approach to land management and endorsement of the cooperative model.
Listen in to understand the hurdles Native Americans face in accessing government conservation stewardship programs and learn how Dr. Johnson raises crops to fit the environment rather than manipulating the environment to fit the crops.
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INHABITANTS: Indigenous Perspectives on Restoring Our World
Nephi Craig on Reversing Climate Change S2 EP55
Memorandum for the Heads of Departments and Agencies Re: Indigenous Traditional Ecological Knowledge and Federal Decision Making
Regenerative Agriculture Conference
Native American Agricultural Fund
Indian Land Tenure Foundation
Johnson v. M'Intosh
Janie Simms Hipp
Zach Ducheneaux
The University of Arizona Indigenous Resiliency Center
Morrill Land Grant College Act
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What happens to dreams of the future that never arrive, yet still affect our society and culture so deeply? Is it possible to be haunted by failed visions or our own anticipations, and what does that mean? Today, Dr. Holly Jean Buck, Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University of Buffalo and author of the new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough, comes back on the show for a bonus episode to explain the concept of "hauntology", its origin in Jacques Derrida's writing and later popularization by Mark Fisher in his book, Capitalism Realism: Is There No Alternative?, and to what degree these ideas might help us understand the worlds of carbon removal, climatetech, and our shared planetary future.
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Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus
Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103
Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S3E4
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark Fisher
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In the fight against climate change, many are working to achieve net zero by 2050. And achieving net zero means leveraging quite a lot of emissions reduction, management, and carbon removal.
But Dr. Holly Jean Buck contends that we should focus less on managing the byproduct and more on phasing out fossil fuels entirely by the end of the century.
Dr. Buck is Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University of Buffalo and author of the new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, she joins Ross to differentiate net zero from full zero and share her vision of a fully decarbonized, post-extractivist society.
Dr. Buck discusses what we can do to overcome the political resistance to renewables and describes how critical theory concepts like ‘petromelancholia’ can help us understand the challenges associated with the energy transition. Listen in for insight around the government’s role in phasing out fossil fuels and learn how we can use net zero as a starting point to facilitate the fair transition to a bioeconomy.
Key Takeaways
[1:49] What inspired Dr. Buck to write Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough
[3:17] Why we need to focus less on managing emissions and more on phasing out fossil fuels altogether
[4:06] What differentiates full zero from net zero and Dr. Buck’s argument for working toward full zero
[8:41] What we can do to overcome the political resistance to renewables
[10:12] Why nuclear energy might have fewer political repercussions than large-scale renewables
[12:31] How Dr. Buck thinks about achieving net zero through degrowth
[14:26] Dr. Buck’s take on immersive reality replacement
[17:43] Why Dr. Buck shifted away from using the term ‘managed decline’ to describe the energy transition
[20:55] The concepts of petromelancholia and petro-masculinity
[22:21] Dr. Buck’s insight on how fossil fuel jobs and benefits are gendered
[23:33] How social analysis and critical theory help us understand the challenges associated with the energy transition
[25:30] How a nation’s government impacts its policy around phasing out fossil fuels
[29:05] Why Dr. Buck advocates for big emitters like the US to be more ambitious so that less-developed nations can emit longer
[31:59] What full decarbonization to true zero by 2100 might look like
[33:12] Dr. Buck’s vision of a post-extractivist society
[34:58] Why the petrochemical industry was not inevitable and how we can make the shift to a bioeconomy
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Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus
Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark Fisher
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The fact that CO2 is invisible makes it challenging to explain the idea of carbon removal to the general public. But one part of a designer’s job is to visually communicate abstract ideas in a way that audiences understand, and that’s how Amanda Yee approached the task of redesigning the Nori brand logo.
Amanda serves as Senior Product Designer here at Nori and author of the recent Medium article, ‘The Story Behind Nori’s New Logo.’ On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, she joins Ross to explain what inspired the Nori logo redesign, sharing the practical concerns she had with the original logo and describing the difference between good UX design and good visual design.
Amanda walks us through her approach to creating the new logo, discussing why she chose the orange and blue color palette and how the simplified design lends itself to both our climate and crypto communities. Listen in for Amanda’s insight on the opportunities for designers in the climate space and learn how the new Nori logo visually communicates the invisible idea of carbon removal.
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Amanda’s Medium Piece on the Story Behind Nori’s New Logo
Michael Legget on Reversing Climate Change EP042
The Design of Everyday Things by Don Norman
Cy Twombly
Seaspiracy
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This is a brief trailer explaining what the Reversing Climate Change podcast is and why this season we are going to be featuring a lot more shows about blockchain, cryptocurrency, and web3. This might be a bit understated but there will be more Nori-centric episodes this season too! Hope you enjoy!
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Farmland has transformed into a financial asset class. So, what happens when land is owned by large financial institutions? How does it impact farmer autonomy? And could it be good for fighting climate change?
Dr. Madeleine Fairbairn is Associate Professor of Environmental Studies at UC Santa Cruz and author of Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Fairbairn joins Ross and guest cohost Dr. Lauren Gifford to discuss the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry and describe how land has value independent of what it produces.
Dr. Fairbairn explores what’s behind the steep decline in the number of farmers over the last century and explains how large-scale farmland ownership could have positive consequences for the environment and negative social consequences at the same time. Listen in for Dr. Fairbairn’s insights into Georgism as a potential policy response and find out what the financialization of farmland means for the small farmer, the economy and the climate.
Key Takeaways
[1:40] How Fields of Gold explores the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry
[5:24] What Dr. Fairbairn means by ‘the financialization of land’
[9:25] The non-linear progression from communal forms of land ownership to a more and more sophisticated commodification of land
[11:51] How land has value independent of what it produces
[13:52] What’s behind the decline in the number of farmers over the last century
[18:01] The connections between the financialization of farmland and climate (and how what we ask of farmland managers is changing)
[21:12] How large-scale farmland ownership could have positive environmental consequences and negative social consequences at the same time
[26:18] How landowners in Brazil are tasked with serving society as a whole
[30:31] How Dr. Fairbairn thinks about billionaires like Bill Gates acquiring hundreds of thousands of acres of land
[34:03] Dr. Fairbairn’s take on a Georgist land value tax as a potential policy response
[40:03] The relationship between Georgism and the politics of productivity
[42:37] What Dr. Fairbairn is learning about agri-food technology through the UC AFTeR Project she’s working on now
Resources
Dr. Fairbairn at UC Santa Cruz
Dr. Fairbairn on Twitter
Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush by Madeleine Fairbairn
Dr. Lauren Gifford
USDA Discrimination Lawsuits
‘Bill Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner’ in The Land Report
Billionaire Wilderness: The Ultra-Wealthy and the Remaking of the American West by Justin Farrell
The Mason Gaffney Reader: Essays on Solving the ‘Unsolvable’ by Mason Gaffney
Radical Markets: Uprooting Capitalism and Democracy for a Just Society by Eric A. Posner and E. Glen Weyl
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Here in America, we like stories with happy endings. Our media usually comes with a clear message and unanswered questions make us uncomfortable. But Paul Greenberg knows that there’s no simple answer to complex problems like climate change.
Paul is the award-winning food and environmental writer behind titles like The Climate Diet, American Catch, and Four Fish. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul rejoins Ross to discuss his new podcast, Fish Talk, and reflect on the advantages of podcasting as a medium for open-ended storytelling around complex issues.
Paul describes the homesteading and terrace garden projects he’s working on right now, explaining why he's cautious about monetizing his hobbies and if and how a friendlier form of capitalism might support creatives. Listen in for Paul's insight on how our political system informs the way we approach both storytelling and complex challenges such as overfishing and climate change.
Key Takeaways
[2:33] The themes of environmentalism, eating and catching fish featured on Fish Talk
[7:37] Paul's take on the advantages of podcasting as a medium vs. journalism or documentary filmmaking
[12:40] How happy endings are part of the American capitalist model of storytelling (and why that won’t work for the climate crisis)
[17:03] How Paul thinks about eco-Leninism and how the role of journalism in society has changed
[21:32] Why it's so challenging for the US to reach a consensus on big issues like COVID and climate change
[25:08] How we fixed our overfishing problem in the US (and how that problem compares to the climate crisis)
[27:56] How we outsource our polluting industries to China and what might happen if the Chinese decide they want a clean environment
[29:52] The homesteading and terrace garden writing projects Paul is considering right now
[34:27] Why the idea of a deep meditation on his climate safe acre in the Adirondacks appeals to Paul
[39:37] Paul’s commitment to deprogram himself from the relentless selling he grew up with
[44:01] How a friendlier form of capitalism might support creatives
[45:23] Why Paul likes homesteaders Helen and Scott Nearing’s ideal way to organize a day
[48:42] The danger in monetizing our hobbies
[50:43] How Succession and the Monty Python films successfully critique capitalism and religion
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Paul on Medium
Paul on Reversing Climate Change S2EP61
Paul's website
The Fish Talk podcast
One Green World nursery
Monty Python’s Almost the Truth on Netflix
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As listeners of Nori podcasts, you might know that we use cryptocurrency in the form of Nori tokens which may become a market-driven price for carbon removal. You also might know we issue non-fungible tokens, otherwise known as NFTs, when buyers purchase those removals. But you may not know the history of the blockchain we run on or how the system works. So, where can you go to learn Ethereum 101?
Laura Shin is a crypto journalist and host of the Unchained Podcast. A former senior editor at Forbes, Laura was the first mainstream reporter to cover the blockchain full-time. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Laura joins Ross to discuss her new book, The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze,a history of Ethereum and the ICO mania of 2017.
Laura explains why Ethereum quickly became the second most important cryptocurrency, describing how it was used to raise billions of dollars for decentralized apps and what happened when the DAO to fund slock.it was hacked. Listen in for Laura's insight around why the crypto bubble burst in early 2018, what trends have occurred since then, and why Laura believes that DAOs are the next big thing in crypto.
Key Takeaways
[1:00] How Laura’s book focuses on the story of the ICO craze
[2:02] What it’s like to write about recent history and why Laura was inspired to create a record of what happened in crypto in 2017 and 2018
[6:10] The rigorous fact-checking process Laura went through for The Cryptopians
[8:46] Why Ethereum quickly became the second most important cryptocurrency
[10:44] How the Ethereum blockchain serves as an open design space where developers can build decentralized applications
[18:03] Examples of the fastest and largest fundraising campaigns for apps through ICOs on Ethereum
[18:39] How the DAO to fund slock.it was hacked for $75M
[27:56] The ‘code is law’ debate that occurred in the aftermath of the DAO crisis
[30:00] The cultural differences between the Bitcoin and Ethereum chains
[31:08] What behaviors investors had to learn to participate in the ICO craze and why crypto founders were able to raise billions of dollars for their projects
[35:41] How ICOs compare to VC funding
[36:17] How the 2017 SEC report classifying DAO tokens as securities informed the burst of the crypto bubble in early 2018
[37:59] Why crypto prices dropped early in the pandemic and what’s happened since then
[42:48] Laura’s explanation of decentralized finance or DeFi and non-fungible tokens or NFTs
[52:16] How DAOs work to organize people in a democratic way
[55:02] Why Laura believes DAOs are the next big thing in crypto
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The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze by Laura Shin
Unchained Podcast
ConstitutionDAO
‘The Inside Story of Mt. Gox, Bitcoin’s $460M Disaster’ in WIRED
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Prior to COP26, there was a big problem in international carbon accounting. Both the country where a carbon credit was generated and the country where it was sold could count those very same credits toward their Paris climate commitments. COP26 seeks to remedy this issue with the practice of double entry bookkeeping. But is it too late? What are the unintended consequences of implementing the new rules now?
Aldyen Donnelly is a cofounder, advisor, and former Director of Carbon Economics here at Nori. She also serves as a carbon markets advisor to several organizations, including Terramerra, Inc. and the Livestock Carbon Exchange. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Aldyen joins Ross and Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss how the new rules will lead to export controls for carbon credits and describe how such protectionism is likely to impact developing nations.
Aldyen and Paul share their concerns around blockchain crypto projects like KlimaDAO and weigh in on why carbon removals are preferable to carbon avoidance credits. Listen in to understand why throughput might matter more than permanence and learn how the upcoming Nori token launch aims create a true price discovery mechanism for carbon that others can use.
Key Takeaways
[1:26] How COP26 adopted new rules to implement double entry bookkeeping
[4:33] How a failure to implement double entry bookkeeping in prior carbon markets led to the price crash of 2012
[8:00] Why double entry bookkeeping was blocked until now
[12:33] Paul and Aldyen’s fear that the new rules will lead to export controls around carbon credits
[17:58] How export controls will negatively impact the carbon removal industry in developing nations
[20:19] The 3-year window COP26 allows for the creation of an international carbon market oversight body (and the opportunity that gives us at Nori)
[22:29] How crypto projects like KlimaDAO perpetuate a system where carbon credits are resold more than once and the underlying value isn’t actually one tonne
[26:10] The loophole in COP26 allowing the backlog of carbon credits to be sold without double entry bookkeeping
[28:05] What differentiates carbon avoidance credits from carbon removal credits (and why large corporations don’t necessarily care)
[33:07] How Nori’s take on the fundamental constraint of carbon markets differs from that of KlimaDAO
[35:30] How Paul and Aldyen think about permanence and why It's more important to focus on throughput
[41:40] How the upcoming Nori token launch will create a price discovery mechanism for carbon
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Aldyen on Reversing Climate Change EP031
‘Cryptocurrency Traders Move into Carbon Markets’ in The Wall Street Journal
KlimaDAO
Toucan Protocol
Olympus
Careers at Nori
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Climate change is already affecting our food systems. But have you ever considered how rising temperatures might impact access to the pastries you love? What if you could no longer enjoy a croissant with your coffee in the morning? Or indulge in a slice of cake on special occasions?
Caroline Saunders is the host of the Sustainable Baker podcast, coauthor of Craft Beef, former chief-of-staff at Grist and soon-to-be student in the pastry track at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Caroline joins Ross to share her interest in developing sustainable recipes and explain how her career path reflects her passions for climate and dessert.
Caroline describes her concerns around climate change and the future of dessert, discussing what spices are at risk and how we can help grains adapt to rising temperatures. Listen in for Caroline’s insight on what it looks like to bake without dairy and find out how to make your favorite desserts more sustainably!
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The Sustainable Baker
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Craft Beef: A Revolution of Small Farms and Big Flavors by Joe Heitzeberg, Ethan Lowry and Caroline Saunders
IPCC Reports
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Le Cordon Bleu
Culinary Institute of America
Nancy Silverton on Chef’s Table
Paul Hollywood
The Great British Bake Off
The Land Institute
The Land Institute on Reversing Climate Change EP062
The Bread Lab
Fran Costigan
Lennox Hastie on Chef’s Table BBQ
Books by Anne Byrn
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The climate crisis will be on the world stage once again in November 2021, as the UN Climate Change Conference of the Parties known as COP26 convenes in Glasgow. The summit brings together 200-plus countries to tackle climate change, and it is billed as the most significant climate event since the Paris Agreement was adopted in 2015 at COP21.
So, how can you learn more about what’s happening at COP26 and why it’s important?
Brock Benefiel is the cohost of The Climate Pod, a podcast that covers the latest news on the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Brock joins Ross to discuss the special focus of the show’s new series, Road to COP26, giving us a preview of the scientists, policymakers, and activists Brock and his brother Ty are highlighting in the weeks to come.
Brock offers insight into what we need to accomplish at COP26, describing what success looks like and why achieving it is such a monumental challenge. Listen in as Brock shares some of his favorite episodes of The Climate Pod to date and find out why it’s crucial to engage in meaningful conversations about the climate crisis.
This episode is part of a partnership with The Climate Pod.
Reach out to hello@nori.com if you or your podcast are interested in collaboration efforts that fuel climate action.
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The Climate Pod
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COP26
The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report
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Greta Thunberg’s 2019 Speech to the UN
UK MP David Lammy on The Climate Pod
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Most efforts to educate the public around climate change are pretty dour and leave people feeling hopeless and helpless. But there are things an individual or small group can do to have a meaningful impact on the climate. And now, there’s a board game that teaches people about the most effective climate solutions and gives them the agency to take action.
Samuel Levac-Levey is the Founder and Game Designer behind Solutions, a collaborative board game designed to inspire hope and action on the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Sam joins Ross and guest host Christi Taylor, Marketing Coordinator at Nori, to explain how the book Drawdowninformed the creation of the game and describe how it serves as a starting point for real-world climate action.
Sam walks us through the mechanics of the game, discussing how it’s being tested both in schools and with a general audience. Listen in to understand how Solutions exposes players to job opportunities in the climate space and learn how you can support Sam’s project and play Solutions yourself by contributing to his Kickstarter campaign before it closes on August 17th.
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Solutions: The Game on Kickstarter
Solutions: The Game
Drawdown: The Most Comprehensive Plan Ever Proposed to Reverse Global Warming edited by Paul Hawken
Drawdown Conference
Henk Rogers
Sid Meier’s Civilization
Will Wright’s The Sims
Climate Science
Green Teacher
Work on Climate
Climate Designers
Moore’s Law
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Do you take having a working sanitation system for granted?
What if you didn’t have access to a public wastewater treatment plant? What if you lived with sewage running back into your home? And what if your failing septic system made YOU a criminal?
MacArthur Fellow Catherine Coleman Flowers is the founder of The Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice (CREEJ) and author of Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Catherine joins Ross to discuss the neglect of water and wastewater infrastructure in rural America, explaining why septic systems are failing and how that impacts public health.
Catherine offers insight on the disparities in access to sanitation for poor rural communities and people of color, describing how corrupt government officials and bad policy can contribute to the inequity. Listen in for Catherine’s advice on collaborating with people who don’t necessarily share your values and find out what CREEJ is doing to design a solution that will allow people to treat wastewater affordably—wherever they are.
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The Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice
Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret by Catherine Coleman Flowers
CREEJ & The Guardian’s Sanitation Self-Report Form
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American Society of Civil Engineering Report Card for America’s Infrastructure
Lowndes Interpretive Center
President Biden’s Climate Task Force
White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council
Pamela Rush
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If you don’t have access to public transportation or you’re looking for a climate-friendly alternative to Uber, then you may have considered renting one of Revel’s electric mopeds. But do micromobility companies like this actually make money? And how should micromobility fit into the larger ecosystem of getting from point A to point B?
Kate Knibbs is a Senior Writer at WIRED and the author of ‘Freedom, Mayhem, and the Uncertain Future of Revel’s Mopeds.’ On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Kate joins Ross and guest host Radhika Moolgavkar, Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori, to discuss micromobility, describing how mopeds and e-bikes should be a complement to mass transit—not the dominant form of getting around.
She offers insight on the potential profitability of a company like Revel, explaining how positioning itself as an electric vehicle company increases its chances of success and why safety issues are its greatest existential threat. Listen in to understand the role of subsidies in making micromobility ventures work and learn how Kate thinks about when to choose public transit, train travel, auto ownership, rideshare, or micromobility options.
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Kate at WIRED
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Kate on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12
‘Freedom, Mayhem, and the Future of Revel’s Mopeds’ in WIRED
Revel
Lime Micromobility
The Drivers Cooperative
Books by Paul Theroux
‘Farewell, Millennial Lifestyle Subsidy’ in The New York Times
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Are you missing the experience of eating out at a restaurant? Or maybe you’re itching to travel and revisit the food traditions of the places you love? What if you could recreate these experiences at home, using simple recipes to embark on a culinary journey around the world?
Renee Erickson is the James Beard Award-winning chef behind several popular Seattle restaurants including The Walrus and the Carpenter, The Whale Wins, and Bateau. She is also the author of the critically-acclaimed cookbook A Boat, a Whale & a Walrus: Menus and Stories. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Renee joins Ross and Radhika to discuss her latest release, Getaway: Food and Drink to Transport You, sharing what inspired her to design a cookbook around her favorite places.
Renee weighs in on why eating locally and seasonally is not just better for the climate but better for us, explaining her decisions-making around what fish to buy for her restaurants and how to avoid wasting beef. Listen in for Renee’s insight on making good food more accessible and get her top recommendations on places to eat out in Seattle as the world reopens post-pandemic!
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Chef Renee Erickson
Getaway: Food & Drink to Transport You by Renee Erickson
A Boat, a Whale & a Walrus: Menus and Stories by Renee Erickson
Sea Creatures
The Walrus and the Carpenter
Bateau
Tulalip Reservation
Bristol Bay
Drifters Fish
Six Seasons: A New Way with Vegetables by Joshua McFadden
Green Plate Special
Musang
The Harvest Vine
Café Lago
Delancey
Local Tide
Gracia
Rachel’s Bagels
Saint Bread
Books by Dominique Crenn
Meesha
‘Three Seattle Chefs on the Challenges of Opening a Restaurant in 2020’ in Crosscut
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Data in the music industry is incredibly fragmented. There is no one consistent place to go for information about a work. It’s hard to know where songs are being played or who was involved in creating a piece of music. And this means that a lot of artists don’t get royalties for their work.
What if blockchain technology is the answer?
Imogen Heap is the Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter and record producer behind The Creative Passport, an identity management platform for music makers that runs on the blockchain. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Imogen joins Ross, Paul, and Evangeline to explain how the music industry’s challenges around crediting and payment inspired her interest in the blockchain space.
She weighs in on why she launched a collection of non-fungible tokens (NFTs) to raise funds for The Creative Passport and how she devoted a portion of the proceeds to Nori to offset the carbon emissions associated with minting those NFTs. Listen in for Imogen’s vision of a more diverse commercial music industry where artists are empowered to host their own data and share it with others on the blockchain.
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Imogen’s App
The Creative Passport
Vinay Gupta at MATTEREUM
Vinay Gupta’s Hexayurt Project
MYCELIA
Endlesss
Don Diablo
OpenSea
Cargo
arweave
Paul’s Post on Removing Carbon Emissions from NFTs
Kelly Garrett on Twitter
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Big-ticket investments in carbon removal innovation are newsworthy, but perhaps nothing captures the public imagination quite like a cash prize. And the $100M purse associated with XPRIZE Carbon Removal happens to be the largest in history. So, how does an award of this magnitude translate to meaningful climate solutions?
Dr. Marcius Extavour is the Vice President of Energy and Climate at XPRIZE, a nonprofit using large-scale global competitions to crowdsource solutions to the world’s greatest challenges. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Extavour joins Ross to discuss XPRIZE Carbon Removal, explaining how Elon Musk got involved in funding the $100M prize purse and what it takes to win the $50M grand prize.
He describes how winning an XPRIZE gives a project momentum, offering insight on how the prize model complements traditional investments and sharing historic examples of awards that led to technological breakthroughs. Listen in for Dr. Extavour’s call to maintain a collaborative spirit in the carbon removal space as it evolves and find out how you can get involved in XPRIZE Carbon Removal.
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XPRIZE Foundation
XPRIZE Carbon Removal Overview
XPRIZE Carbon Removal Guidelines
Email carbonremoval@xprize.org
CarbonCure on Reversing Climate Change S2EP16
Carbon Upcycling on Reversing Climate Change S2EP60
CarbonBuilt
Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the Greatest Scientific Problem of His Time by Dava Sobel
The Orteig Prize
Dr. Extavour’s Keynote at the 2021 AirMiners Conference
Climeworks
Carbon Engineering
Global Thermostat
Charm Industrial
Pachama
AirMiners Launchpad
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Should we genetically engineer carbon-hungry trees? Can metal-eating trees clean up abandoned mines? Does seaweed have the potential to save the planet? While these ideas might seem outlandish, they are all examples of actual solutions to our environmental issues people are working on right now.
Teresa Carey is a senior staff writer at Freethink, a platform that features the passionate innovators working to solve humanity’s greatest challenges. Prior to becoming a journalist, Teresa was a professional mariner and USCG licensed captain. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Teresa joins Ross to discuss the outside-the-box solutions to climate change she has written about, sharing her particular interest in covering the environment, genetics, climate technology, and carbon removal.
She explains how innovators are genetically engineering trees to suck more CO2 out of the atmosphere, offering her take on the debate around GMOs and the impact hybrid breeding might have on local ecosystems. Listen in for Teresa’s insight on the potential dangers of consumer genetic tests and find out what she learned about the process of sequestering carbon in seaweed to generate carbon offsets.
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Teresa on Freethink
John Kretschmer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP33
‘Metal Eating Trees Could Clean Up Abandoned Mines’ in Freethink
‘A Seaweed Diet Could Eliminate Most of Cows’ Greenhouse Emissions’ in Freethink
‘Can Seaweed Save the Planet?’ in Freethink
‘Autonomous Trash-Eating Boats Clean Up Water Pollution’ in Freethink
Project Vesta on Reversing Climate Change S2EP23
Dr. Greg Dipple on Reversing Climate Change EP009
‘Should We Genetically Engineer Carbon-Hungry Trees?’ in Freethink
Paul Greenberg on Reversing Climate Change S2EP61
The Salk Institute’s Harnessing Plants Initiative
‘First Study of All Amazon Greenhouse Gases Suggests the Damaged Forest Is Now Worsening Climate Change’ in National Geographic
‘This Spit Test Will Help Couples Know Their Baby’s Risk of Genetic Disease’ in Freethink
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For large, established companies to be sustainable long term, they need to consider how a changing climate will impact what they do. CEOs have got to ask how their businesses can be resilient in the face of climate change and what they can do to help mitigate it.
Nicole Systrom is the Founder of Sutro Energy Group, a consultancy working to scale high-impact climate solutions. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nicole joins guest host Alexsandra Guerra to discuss her recent World Economic Forum article, ‘3 Ways CEOs Can Tackle Climate Change and Build a Net-Zero Economy.’
She explains why large, established companies should lend their political capital to climate tech startups and makes the case that every business should make net-zero a part of their business strategy. Listen in for Nicole’s insight on giving innovators a voice in policy creation and learn how large corporations, legislators and climate tech startups can work together to build a net-zero economy.
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‘3 Ways CEOs Can Tackle Climate Change and Build a Net-Zero Economy’ by Nicole Systrom
Sutro Energy Group
45Q Tax Credit
Microsoft’s Climate Innovation Fund
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60% of the calories in our food supply are alleged to be ultra-processed junk. So, when did we lose our way? When did we go from growing food to feed our communities to growing food for profit? And how do we find our way back to a just food system—and society?
Mark Bittman is a former New York Times columnist and bestselling author of 30-plus books, including the well-known How to Cook Everything series. His new release is called Animal, Vegetable, Junk: A History of Food, from Sustainable to Suicidal. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mark joins Ross and Radkhika to explain how the food system shaped our history and vice versa, describing how the Enclosure Movement may have turned food into a profit-making political tool and created the health crisis we’re facing.
He weighs in on why educating kids about good food is the first step in creating a just food system and advocates for subsidies to support getting good food to more people. Listen in for Mark’s perspective on investing federal dollars in regenerative agriculture and learn how he thinks about making the phrase ‘land reform’ common in our political discourse.
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Animal, Vegetable, Junk: A History of Food, from Sustainable to Suicidal by Mark Bittman
How to Cook Everything: Simple Recipes for Great Food by Mark Bittman
Jared Diamond
Land Enclosure
Books by James C. Scott
Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the All-American Meal by Eric Schlosser
Supersize Me
Books by Will Durant
Books by Marion Nestle
Renewable Fuel Standard Program
Joel Salatin at Polyface Farms
Full Belly Farm
The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael Pollan
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Since its founding in 2003, Newlight Technologies’ goal has been to create consumer-driven solutions to reducing carbon in the air. And while that intention has not changed, the Newlight team’s approach has evolved as they consider how to achieve the greatest impact.
Mark Herrema is the cofounder and CEO of Newlight, an advanced biotechnology company using greenhouse gas to produce sustainable materials and replacements for plastic. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mark joins Ross and cohost Radkhika Moolgavkar, Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori, to discuss what Newlight has been up to since his last appearance on the podcast, explaining how they brought a new plant online in 2019 and why the team chose foodware and fashion as its first two consumer foci.
Mark shares an overview of the AirCarbon production process, addressing where Newlight’s greenhouse gas feedstocks come from and how Newlight uses the blockchain to track the carbon footprint of its products. Listen in to understand how Mark’s thinking around carbon markets has shifted, why it took two years to get Newlight’s methodology approved, and what marketplaces need to change to make the space more attractive to other ambitious entrepreneurs.
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Newlight Technologies
Restore Foodware
Covalent Fashion
Mark Herrema on Reversing Climate Change S1E14
Newlight’s work with IBM
Verra
Newlight’s Methodology for Greenhouse Gas Capture and Utilization in Plastic Materials
ISO 14067 Carbon Footprint of Products
ISO 14044 Life Cycle Assessment
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Since the first levee was built in New Orleans in 1717, we have been trying to manage America’s rivers. But now our infrastructure is failing. And if we don’t compromise on a plan to restore (or strategically remove) our dams, levees, and locks and give our waterways more space, flooding events will continue to devastate entire communities over and over again.
Tyler J. Kelley is a journalist whose work has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The New Yorker, among many other national publications. His first book, Holding Back the River: The Struggle Against Nature on America’s Waterways, was published in April 2021. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Tyler joins Ross to explain why riverboat traffic is still important to the US economy, moving more than 1,000 semi-trucks’ worth of vital commodities daily.
Tyler discusses the extensive work we’ve done to manage rivers in the US, describing how much land would be unlivable without levees and why the risks of flooding will only increase with climate change. Listen in for Tyler’s insight on the Dutch Delta Works project to give land back to the rivers and fortify existing infrastructure and learn how we might create a similar comprehensive flood control plan to protect communities here in the US.
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Holding Back the River: The Struggle Against Nature on America’s Waterways by Tyler J. Kelley
Tyler’s Website
‘The Fight to Tame a Swelling River with Dams That May Be Outmatched by Climate Change’ in The New York Times
Elizabeth Kolbert on Reversing Climate Change S2EP50
Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future by Elizabeth Kolbert
Levee Wars on Sny Island
Rebuild Pinhook
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What would happen if businesses were expected or even required to store a tonne of carbon for every tonne of carbon they produce? A Carbon Takeback Obligation is a policy framework that aims to make that the new standard. Today we learn more about how such a system might operate.
Margriet Kuijper is a former civil engineer for Shell, where she focused on the development of carbon capture and storage projects. Today, she serves as an independent consultant working on a Carbon Takeback Obligation, otherwise known as CTBO. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Margriet joins Ross to share the simple idea behind a Carbon Takeback Obligation and explain how it addresses the common concerns associated with oil and gas carbon capture projects.
Margriet discusses how CTBO makes polluters pay to clean up their emissions and describes how CTBO policy could work in tandem with a carbon tax or emissions trading system, incentivizing both emitters and producers to find solutions together. Listen in to understand Margriet’s take on the role of offsets under CTBO and in a net-zero world, and learn how businesses would benefit from the long-term policy certainty of a Carbon Takeback Obligation.
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Carbon Takeback website
Carbon Takeback Obligation: A Producer’s Responsibility Scheme on the Way to a Climate Neutral Energy System
Myles Allen TED Talk
Clean Air Task Force
The Paris Agreement
IPCC
International Energy Agency
Eli Mitchell-Larson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP62
Myles Allen
EU Emissions Trading System
Europe’s Extended Producer Responsibility Policy
Making Climate Policy Work by Danny Cullenward and David G. Victor
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Carbon removal tends not to be the most accessible pursuit for the layperson. One can plant a tree or practice regenerative farming in one's garden plot, but there typically isn't a lot else one can do. At least before Cyan! Cyan is an open-source do-it-yourself modular direct air capture machine for hobbyists you can build in an hour or two and start learning about and practicing carbon removal in your free time. And in this episode, Ross and his guest Dahl Winters build one in real time! (There is also an identical YouTube video of this podcast that shows the process!)
Dahl Winters is the CTO of DeepScience LTD and a member of the OpenAir Collective working on Cyan and other open-source DAC designs. Much scientific development focuses on patents and proprietary technology as a means of getting to a commercial market, but open-source development has an advantage of being anticompetitive, dynamic, and inclusive in ways that can be unexpectedly powerful.
Tune in today to learn the how and why of building Cyan, OpenAir Collective's work on policy as well as technological development, and why open-source movements can accomplish so much if done well.
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Dahl Winters on Twitter
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The OpenAir Collective
Cyan build instructions on GitHub
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So, you’re interested in carbon removal and curious about working in the climate space. But you’re not sure how your skills might apply, and you don’t know where to begin learning about the different types of carbon sequestration or the major players in the industry.
John Sanchez is the Founder and Curriculum Designer at Carbon Removal Academy and the Co-Creator of the AirMiners Boot Up Program and Problem Pack Climate Sprint Workgroups. He is also building Carbon Visions, a community of college students working on carbon removal solutions. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how these experiences facilitate the exploration process for transitioning into the climate space.
John shares his take on what makes a climate community valuable and discusses the debate around ecological versus industrial sequestration. Listen in to understand how John’s love of literature informs his work in carbon removal and learn how his experiences can help YOU uncover your climate affinity and then apply your skills to reversing climate change.
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John’s Travels in Carbon Removal Newsletter
John’s Carbon Visions Slack Community
Carbon Removal Academy
AirMiners
AirMiners Boot Up Program
Problem Pack Climate Sprints
Biochar & Sawmills Problem Pack Report
Work on Climate
My Climate Journey
Climatebase
Evan Hynes of Climatebase on Reversing Climate Change
Carbon Visions
CDR Primer
World Resources Institute’s Post on Regenerative Ag
The Soil Scientists’ Response Letter to WRI
Tito Jankowski on YouTube
Literature & History Podcast
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Nori has evolved a great deal since its founding in 2017, and today, the team is ready to shift from a build-to-learn prototype to a build-to-scale model. The product team is working to reduce friction in the supply experience, while the sales team develops a repeatable, scalable business model. So, what progress have they made in the last year? And where is there still room for growth?
Josh Felser is an angel investor in Nori and Founder of Climactic, a VC fund that invests in visionary founders solving our planet’s greatest challenges. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Josh interviews Nori team members Paul Gambill, Evangeline Marzec, Alexsandra Guerra, Radhika Moolgavkar, and Ross Kenyon for an update on Nori’s progress over the last 12 months, starting with the major trends in the climate space that affect the startup’s carbon removal marketplace.
They discuss how the team has grown, sharing Nori’s values-based approach to hiring and explaining how they’ve iterated over the last year to improve product-market fit. Listen in as Paul, Evangeline, Alexsandra, Radhika, and Ross offer insight on building trust with customers as they work to scale and learn about the forthcoming launch of the Nori token and the role it will play in determining the marketplace value of removing carbon from the atmosphere.
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Open Roles at Nori
Climactic
Helium
Techstars
Blue Ocean Strategy: How to Create Uncontested Market Space and Make the Competition Irrelevant by W. Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne
Nori’s API Pilot
Gimlet Media’s StartUp Podcast
COMET-Farm
The Nature Conservancy
Conservation International
Indigo Ag
Joro
Pachama
Indigo’s Terraton Initiative
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The narrative of human exceptionalism posits that there is something unique about being human that makes us more valuable. And we believe that what matters most are the things that seem to separate us from animals—like our ability to reason or the immortal human soul. But what if you can’t separate the animal part of us from our spirit? What if being human IS being animal?
Melanie Challenger is a writer of environmental history, podcast host of Enter the Psychosphere, and author of the new release, How to Be Animal: A New History of What It Means to Be Human. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Melanie joins Ross to share her argument against substance dualism, explaining why we can’t separate the idea of being human from that of being animal.
Melanie offers insight on how we can ‘become animal’ without reverting to amoral, self-serving behaviors and why she sees the simple, clean messaging around environmental issues as being problematic. Listen in to understand Melanie’s take on the human battle with mortality and learn to accept that life is finite but not fear death.
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Melanie Challenger’s website
Enter the Psychosphere Podcast
How to Be Animal: A New History of What It Means to Be Human by Melanie Challenger
On Extinction: How We Became Estranged from Nature by Melanie Challenger
Paul Kingsnorth on Reversing Climate Change S2EP53
George Monbiot
Caspar Henderson
Thomas Aquinas’ Philosophy of Angelology
The Biological Mind: How Brain, Body and Environment Collaborate to Make Us Who We Are by Alan Jasanoff
Sam Harris
Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning by Timothy Snyder
Alan Watts Organization
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Are we out of balance? Some thinkers pose that the scales have tipped toward industry, ego, and individuality, and we’re disconnected from the cycles of nature. We’re all Yang and no Yin. And this imbalance is causing climate change. So, what can we do to restore our sense of interconnectedness among all living things? How can tapping into our spirituality help us heal ourselves and the earth?
Dr. Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow is the author of Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil and Healing from the Ground Up. She is also a founding member of Kiss the Ground, a nonprofit dedicated to awakening people to the possibilities of regeneration. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. McMorrow joins guest host and Nori cofounder Alexsandra Guerra to share her mother metaphor for the soil, describing how she sees the Yin as the feminine energy of regeneration and why western society struggles with birth and death—the primary portals of transformation.
Dr. McMorrow explores how our desire to DO disregards the spiritual aspect of climate change, discussing the individual and collective healing we must do to activate our soul voice and reconnect with each other and the earth. Listen in to understand the relationship between the empowerment of women and soil health and learn Dr. McMorrow’s simple practices for connecting with spirit and bringing our natural systems back into balance.
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Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil and Healing from the Ground Up by Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow, PhD
Dr. McMorrow’s Website
Kiss the Ground
Ryland Engelhart
Graeme Sait’s 2013 TED Talk
YogaWorks
Katharine Wilkinson’s 2018 TED Talk
Lindsay Mack
How to Do the Work: Recognize Your Patterns, Heal Your Past, and Create Your Self by Dr. Nicole LePera
Soul
The Eagle and the Condor
Zach Bush, MD
HeartMath
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In order to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement, we can’t just reduce emissions. We have no choice but to add carbon dioxide removal (CDR) to the mix to keep global temperature rise under 2°C. So, what CO2 removal processes are in development? And what are governments and nonprofits doing to advocate for and fund carbon removal?
Dr. Jan Mazurek serves as Senior Director at the ClimateWorks Foundation, where she leads the Carbon Dioxide Removal Fund. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Mazurek joins Ross to discuss what the Biden administration is doing to make ‘historic strides on climate’ and explain what carbon removal measures are left out of the Biden-Harris climate agenda.
Dr. Mazurek explores why it’s politically beneficial to lead with rural resilience and job opportunities as opposed to carbon removal, describing how ClimateWorks grantees partner with unions to garner support for DAC. Listen in for Dr. Mazurek’s insight on the challenges associated with carbon pricing and find out why it’s crucial to engage front line communities in the discussion around carbon removal.
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ClimateWorks Foundation
The CDR Program at ClimateWorks
Noah Deich & Giana Amador on RCC EP017
Dr. Julio Friedmann on RCC EP016
Giana Amador’s Blog on the Biden Budget
American Jobs Plan
National Academy of Sciences Workshop on Ocean CDR
SEA FUEL Act
ClimateWorks’ Video on Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement
Stripe Climate
Rhodium Group’s Study on Job Opportunities in DAC
Energy Futures Initiative
Carbon180
Tracy Johns at the Climate and Land Use Alliance
REDD+
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Many corporations, organizations, and governments have made net zero commitments, and most are leaning on voluntary carbon offsetting to achieve these climate goals. But how can we be sure that such carbon offsets demonstrate a real change in the atmosphere? And how can we approach offsetting in a way that gives rise to an actual net zero society?
Eli Mitchell-Larson is a climate researcher and PhD candidate at the University of Oxford and the corresponding author of The Oxford Principles for Net Zero Aligned Carbon Offsetting. He also serves as an advisor to Carbon Direct and is helping build a new carbon removal advocacy organization in Europe. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Eli joins Ross to walk us through Oxford’s four principles, explaining why the guidelines prioritize decarbonizing first and then negating emissions.
Eli describes why he advocates for a shift to carbon removal offsetting and long-lived storage, discussing why he believes nature-based solutions are crucial—but may not be appropriate for carbon markets. Listen in to understand the argument of why companies must support the development of net zero aligned offsetting (and what that might look like) and learn how you can get involved in Eli’s burgeoning advocacy organization that serves as a champion for carbon removal.
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The Oxford Principles for Net Zero Aligned Carbon Offsetting 2020
‘Prosets: Making Continued Use of Fossil Fuels Compatible with a Credible Transition to Net Zero’ on Research Square
Eli Mitchell-Larson on Twitter
Carbon Direct
CDR Advocacy Europe
CDR Advocacy’s Open Executive Director Role
Carbon Takeback Obligation
George Monbiot’s 2006 Article on Carbon Offsets
United Nations Race to Zero Campaign
Silvia Terra
The Blue Carbon Initiative
Carbon180
Carbon Dioxide Removal Primer
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There’s a lot of advice on how reduce your carbon footprint. But everything seems to come with a caveat. You can stop eating meat, but do synthetic meats require monoculture? You can boycott Bitcoin, but would that make the grid itself any cleaner? You can drive an electric car, but its battery is made with rare minerals. So, how do you make choices that really move the needle?
Paul Greenberg is the fisherman and bestselling author behind Four Fish, American Catch, and The Omega Principle. His latest book is called The Climate Diet: 50 Simple Ways to Trim Your Carbon Footprint. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul joins Ross to explain what we can do to support sustainable fisheries and why we should be ‘picky plant eaters.’
Paul challenges us to be mindful of how many children we add to the planet and shares his argument against building infrastructure that gets us ‘back to normal’ after the pandemic. Listen in for Paul’s insight on electrical versus gas appliances and learn how The Climate Diet can help you make conscious choices in a spirit of kindness to the environment.
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Paul’s Website
Seaspiracy
What a Fish Knows: The Inner Lives of Our Underwater Cousins by Jonathan Balcombe
‘The Wrong Mine for the Wrong Place’ in The New York Times
Gidon Eshel
‘The Plant Prescription’ in Eating Well
Goodbye Phone, Hello World: 60 Ways to Disconnect from Tech and Reconnect to Joy by Paul Greenberg
How to Break Up with Your Phone by Catherine Price
Empty Planet on Reversing Climate Change EP105
‘Has the Pandemic Transformed the Office Forever?’ in The New Yorker
Carl Safina
‘We Don’t Need More Life-Crushing Steel and Concrete’ in The New York Times
Natural Resource Defense Council
Farhad Manjoo
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Art has a unique ability to explain complex, oft-emotional topics in an understandable way. And that’s why Carbon Upcycling Technologies (CUT) is engaging with visual artists to educate the general public about carbontech. CUT offers their artist-collaborators free materials and tech support, encouraging the use of CO2-derived materials to create pieces that ‘showcase the carbon capture and utilization industry.’
Madison Savilow is the Chief of Staff at Carbon Upcycling Technologies and Venture Lead of CUT’s new consumer brand, Expedition Air. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Madison joins Ross to discuss the technology Carbon Upcycling uses to create solid materials like concrete, plastics, and consumer products out of CO2 and share her take on the tradeoffs associated with working with some of the largest players in the energy sector.
Madison explains what inspired CUT to launch Expedition Air, describing how a consumer brand helps educate the general public about carbontech and what other companies in the space are following suit. Listen in for insight into Expedition Air’s collaboration with artists Annalee Levin and Luis Merchan and learn how Madison and her team are using visual art to market carbontech.
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Expedition Air
Expedition Air on LinkedIn
Expedition Air Artist Collaborations
Expedition Air Artist in Residence Program
Carbon Upcycling
Annalee Levin on Reversing Climate Change S2EP52
Carbon XPRIZE
Apoorv Sinha on Reversing Climate Change EP078
Rob Niven on Reversing Climate Change S2EP16
Clean CO2
Aether Diamonds
Air Company
Newlight Technologies on Reversing Climate Change EP014
Covalent
Captured Carbon Studio
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According to the NOMINATE Index, the last time the US was this polarized was just before and during the Civil War. So, how did we get here? And what can the philosophy of public reason liberalism teach us about living together—even when we don’t agree on much?
Dr. Kevin Vallier is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green University and author of Trust in a Polarized Ageand Must Politics Be War? Restoring Trust in the Open Society. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Vallier joins Ross to discuss the doom loop between falling distrust and growing polarization and address how we can learn to disagree in more a productive way.
Dr. Vallier explains liberalism in general and public reason liberalism specifically, describing how we might build a shared doctrine that appeals to multiple reasonable perspectives. Listen in for Dr. Vallier’s public reason argument for restricting carbon emissions and learn what we can do to rebuild trust in our institutions and each other.
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Books by Kevin Vallier
Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier
Must Politics Be War? Restoring Our Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier
Nolan McCarty on Google Scholar
Network Propaganda: Manipulation, Disinformation and Radicalization in American Politics by Yochal Benkler, Robert Faris and Hal Roberts
So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson
John Rawls
Jerry Gaus
A Theory of Justice by John Rawls
Political Liberalism by John Rawls
Public Reason Liberalism
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Empires rise and fall. And while we understand these cycles conceptually, there’s a bizarre notion that we are somehow immune. That we can continue to evolve toward greater ease and material abundance generation after generation. That our potential for growth is somehow unlimited. But natural resources are finite. So, what happens when we run out?
Dr. Jason Bradford is the Cofounder of Farmland LP and Cohost of Crazy Town, a podcast produced by the Post Carbon Institute that explores “climate change, overshoot, and runaway capitalism”. He is also the author of The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Bradford joins Ross to explain what differentiates ecological economics from other schools of thought and why some resources are simply too valuable to price.
Dr. Bradford shares his prediction regarding a great simplification of civilization, describing his vision of a future where we might still enjoy modern conveniences but at a very different scale. Listen in to understand why we he thinks we can’t ‘artificial ecosystem’ our way on to other planets, why industrial carbon capture is a bad idea, and how we might build a lower-complexity society that is sustainable for the long term.
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Crazy Town podcast
The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification by Jason Bradford
Farmland LP
Post Carbon Institute
Tom Murphy’s Do the Math Blog on Economic Growth
Enough Is Enough: Building a Sustainable Economy in a World of Finite Resources by Rob Dietz and Dan O’Neill
Paul Kingsnorth on Reversing Climate Change S2EP53
Ted Nordhaus on Reversing Climate Change EP100
The Breakthrough Institute
Kim Stanley Robinson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP51
Novels by Ursula Le Guin
Bernard Lietaer
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Few of us live at sea, so the ocean doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves in the climate conversation. But Kim McCoy contends that phytoplankton deserve just as much consideration as polar bears, and it’s time for us to understand how rising temperatures impact the water, the wind, the waves, and the weather. After all, we all live downstream of climate change.
Kim is the oceanographer who updated Willard Bascom’s Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast, adding new insights around the impact of climate change. On this episode of the podcast, Kim joins Ross to discuss the impact of changing the amount of energy in a given system (i.e.: adding energy in the form of heat) and explain the relationship between changes in the atmosphere and changes in the ocean.
Kim shares the scientific data around the increase in accumulated cyclone energy fueling Atlantic hurricanes and describes how private property is becoming public due to sea level rise. Listen in for Kim’s take on interventions like iron fertilization and solar radiation management and find out what we can do restore the health of the hydrologic cycle that connects us all!
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Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast by Willard Bascom and Kim McCoy
Books by John Kretschmer
John Kretschmer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP33
John Martin’s Iron Hypothesis
Running Tide
Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change EP034
Brian Von Herzen’s RCC Bonus Episode on the Documentary 2040
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Regenerative agriculture is sometimes branded as a new idea. But the tradition of maintaining soil carbon and honoring the earth, of leaving the land better than we found it, has been part of indigenous traditions for thousands of years. So, what can we do to re-center the stories of Black and Native American growers and give credit where credit is due?
Leah Penniman is the Co-Director and Farm Manager at Soul Fire Farm, an Afro-Indigenous-centered community farm committed to uprooting racism and seeding sovereignty in the food system. Leah has 20-plus years of experience as a soil steward and food sovereignty activist, and she is the author of Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Leah joins Ross and cohost Rebekah Carlson to explain George Washington Carver’s work pioneered modern regenerative agriculture—two decades prior to J.I. Rodale.
Leah describes the work she has done to reclaim a connection with the land (beyond the oppression of slavery and sharecropping) and offers advice on reconnecting with your own indigenous roots. Listen in for Leah’s insight on the shift among Black Americans from rural to urban farming and learn how you can support Soul Fire Farm’s work to promote social and environmental justice.
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Soul Fire Farm
Soul Fire on Facebook
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Soul Fire on Twitter
Soul Fire on YouTube
Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land by Leah Penniman
‘Why Farming Is an Act of Defiance for People of Color’ in Healthyish
Owen Taylor on The Table Underground Podcast EP030
The Cooking Gene: A Journey Through African American Culinary History in the Old South by Michael W. Twitty
The land-healing work of George Washington Carver at Grist
Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II by Douglas A. Blackmon
The Justice for Black Farmers Act
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The Passover story is one of intense grief and loss as well as redemption and freedom. And while the Jews fled Egypt 3,000 years ago, many aspects of the story seem particularly relevant in a world plagued by extreme climate events and COVID-19. So, how might the events of Passover inform the way we think about climate change? Can we customize our Passover observances in a way that considers our responsibility to solve the climate crisis?
Sarah Tuneberg is the CEO of Geospiza, a software company that helps cities and corporations take action around climate risk, and she spent 2020 leading the State of Colorado’s Coronavirus Innovation Response Team. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Sarah returns to explain the Jewish tradition of the Passover Seder and explore how it might be customized around the theme of climate change.
Sarah walks us through the Seder meal, describing the inclusive nature of the service and the Jewish tradition of questioning that allows for reinterpretation of the Passover story. Listen in to understand how the idea of tikkun olam requires an active pursuit of social justice and learn how to incorporate climate elements in your Seder celebration this year.
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Sarah on Twitter
Geospiza
Sarah Tuneberg on Reversing Climate Change EP094
New American Haggadah by Jonathan Safran Foer
Jonathan Safran Foer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP29
Jonathan Haidt
Books by Amy-Jill Levine
Greta Thunberg
An Overview of the Story of Passover
What to Expect at a Passover Seder
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There is a growing movement among Native Americans to reclaim their spiritual, cultural, and political identities. And restoring indigenous food practices is central to this work. The new documentary Gather follows several indigenous leaders as they work toward food sovereignty, demonstrating the hope and healing power of traditional food.
On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, three of the people featured in the film join Ross to discuss how they got involved in Gather and share their work around reclaiming indigenous foodways with the world. First, traditional food forager and educator Twila Cassadore explains the importance of food sovereignty in the context of her work with the Western Apache Diet Project.
Then, Apache & Navajo restauranteur and executive chef Nephi Craig of Café Gozhóódescribes his journey through classical French cuisine back to Native food, exploring the power of indigenous food practices in healing chemical dependency and generational grief. Finally, Yurok fisherman and Ancestral Guard founder Samuel Gensaw III offers insight on the Fish Wars of the 1970s and his ongoing fight to protect future generations through indigenous food. Listen in to understand why he believes indigenous values are key in sustaining life on earth and learn what you can do to support Twila, Nephi, and Sammy’s work.
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Gather Documentary
San Carlos Apache Tribe
Western Apache Diet Project
Tribal Food Sovereignty Advancement Initiative
Twila Cassadore at the Quivir Coalition
Café Gozhóó
White Mountain Apache Tribe
Sunrise Park Resort
Nephi Craig on Instagram
Nephi Craig on Facebook
Native American Culinary Association
Victorious Gardens Initiative
Ancestral Guard on Instagram
FishboneTradeCo
Guardians of the River on YouTube
The Fish Wars
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Extreme weather can cause desperate situations. So, what can survival experts teach us about navigating wildfires, hurricanes, flooding, and severe winter storms? Can we prepare for these natural events without turning into full-fledged preppers or giving into the assumption of doom? How do we adapt to a changing climate?
Les Stroud is a filmmaker, musician, and author best known for Survivorman,the pioneering documentary series that launched Survival Television as a genre. He is also the author of the new children’s book Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivormanand the creator of the forthcoming PBS special Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Les joins Ross to share his mission around connecting people with nature and using film as an outlet to teach bushcraft and primitive earth skills.
Les explains how his work is ‘changing into the future’ to help people adapt to climate change, stressing the general skills of resilience and ingenuity, and reminding us that the truth of survival is in community. Listen in to understand how Wild Outside encourages kids to have adventures in their own backyard (be it the back forty or an urban park) and learn how to prepare for natural events so that they don’t turn into disasters.
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Survivorman Les Stroud on YouTube
Les Stroud’s Website
Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivorman by Les Stroud
Survive! Essential Skills and Tactics to Get You Out of Anywhere—Alive by Les Stroud with Michael Vlessides
Les Stroud’s Wild Harvest
Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud
The 10 Bushcraft Books by Richard Graves
Primitive Technology on YouTube
Max Brooks
Survivor Man on The Office
Ray Mears
Bush Tucker Man
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A temperature rise of three or four degrees doesn’t seem like a big deal… Until you go back a few million years and start exploring what the world looked like the last time the Earth was that hot and CO2 levels were even higher than they are now.
Peter Brannen is an award-winning science journalist. His work has appeared in The New York Times, WIRED and The Guardian, among many other national publications. He is also the author of The Ends of the World: Volcanic Apocalypses, Lethal Oceans, and Our Quest to Understand Earth’s Past Mass Extinctions. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross to discuss his most recent article in The Atlantic, ‘The Terrifying Warning Lurking in the Earth’s Ancient Rock Record.’
Peter explains what the planet was like during the Pliocene (the last time CO2 reached 400 PPM), the Miocene (500 PPM) and the Eocene (600-plus PPM), describing how rising levels of carbon dioxide might transform the Earth as we know it. Listen in for Peter’s insight on what an understanding of deep time can teach us about the impact climate change has on the planet and help us appreciate the difference three degrees can make.
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Peter on Reversing Climate Change EP087
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The Long Thaw: How Humans Are Changing the Next 100,000 Years of Earth’s Climate by David Archer
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‘Atmospheric CO2: Principal Control Knob Governing Earth’s Temperature’ in Science
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Paul Kingsnorth is tired of talking about the scope of the climate crisis. In his view, we can’t fix climate change. But we can uncover the spiritual root of the problem and explore how we might live through it.
Paul is the founder of The Dark Mountain Project and a prolific writer of poetry, fiction, and nonfiction. His latest release, the novel Alexandria, serves as the capstone of the acclaimed Buckmaster Trilogy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul joins Ross to discuss the connection Paul sees between transhumanism and the climate crisis, explaining what’s behind our ideology against limits and why he believes the mind and soul can’t live separate from the body.
Paul shares his take on capitalism versus distributism, describing how systems of radical local democracy would root us in community and prevent the kind of scale that leads to tyranny. Listen in for Paul’s insight on the emptying of the will at the heart of most religious traditions and learn why he believes a connection with something greater than ourselves is key to effective activism.
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Ronald Wright on The Progress Trap
What Technology Wants by Kevin Kelly
The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect by Roger Williams
‘The Immortal’ by Jorge Luis Borges
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Dorothy Day
Rerum Novarum, papal encyclical by Pope Leo XIII
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Hieromonk Gabriel on Orthodox Christianity and Politics
God’s Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible by Adam Nicolson
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In the new community economy, many content creators have moved beyond simply sharing ideas with an audience. For many the goal is to facilitate connection among their followers and foster a sense of belonging. So, how can businesses and organizations in the climate space leverage community to shape the low-carbon future we need?
Evan Hynes is a Cofounder at Climatebase, a platform that makes it easy to discover jobs, people, and organizations working to solve the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Evan joins Ross to discuss how Climatebase has evolved into a professional network for the climate space, sharing his team’s mission to build a one-stop shop for climate opportunities.
Evan explores the sense of belonging that comes from being a part of a few small, unique climate communities and challenges content creators to complement each other rather than compete for attention. Listen in for Evan’s insight on following a healthy ‘information diet’ and learn how you can contribute to the next iteration of the Climatebase community.
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When artist Annalee Levin learned about carbon capture on the Reversing Climate Change podcast, the idea captured her imagination. Knowing that the technology exists to capture and store CO2 in concrete, for example, Annalee set out to find a way to make art out of materials containing captured carbon.
Today, Annalee is the textile, hand embroidery, and sculpture artist behind Captured Carbon Studio, a space for exploring captured carbon as an art medium and avenue for educating the public about reversing climate change. She is also a chef-in-training, an experienced beekeeper and the first ever Artist-in-Residence at Carbon Upcycling Technologies. On this episode of the podcast, Annalee joins Ross to discuss her hands-on approach to making art and explain why she is drawn to physical, material crafts as opposed to other art forms.
Annalee describes how she came to make crayons out of recycled CO2 and shares what she is trying to communicate by using captured carbon in her art. Listen in to understand how organic and industrial materials coexist within Annalee’s carbon removal aesthetic and learn how you can support her work or create your own art using tools that reverse climate change.
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12 years ago, Nori cofounder and CEO Paul Gambill was a College Republican. And while he wasn’t a climate denier, he didn’t think that humanity’s 1% contribution to global CO2 emissions was a big deal. And then he read Kim Stanley Robinson’s Mars Trilogy and began to understand the outsized impact of our actions. Not only did the science fiction novels change Paul’s perspective on climate change, they inspired him to dedicate his life’s work to making it better.
American novelist Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the foremost living writers of science fiction. Many of his books explore how climate change will impact us in the coming decades, including the new release (and self-described mic drop moment) The Ministry for the Future. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Stan joins Ross and Paul to discuss how science fiction can help us make better decisions and share his perspective on the politics of the genre.
Stan explains why central banks play such a prominent role in his most recent work, introducing us to the financial system he imagines in his future history novels and sharing his ‘creeping reformist’ approach to building an economy around carbon removal. Listen in for Stan’s insight on why cryptocurrency is featured in his new book and learn how carbon sequestration might work within the framework of modern monetary theory.
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Stan’s Website
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
J.G. Ballard
Frederic Jameson
Georgy Plekhanov
Raymond Williams
Ernst Bloch
Louis Althusser
Ursula K. Le Guin
Iain Banks’ Culture Series
Ghosts of My Life: Writings on Depression, Hauntology and Lost Futures by Mark Fisher
The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction by John Clute and Peter Nicholls
Delton Chen’s Carbon Coin Plan
Socialist Calculation Debate
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There is a new pattern emerging in humanity’s long, complicated relationship with nature. Namely, we’re at a point where the problems we’ve caused by intervening in our environment require interventions of their own. But in a world where we can’t fully anticipate the impact of our actions, should we be optimistic about using new technology to solve crises created by the old?
Elizabeth Kolbert is a staff writer at The New Yorker and the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Sixth Extinction. Her latest book is called Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Elizabeth joins Ross and Christophe to explain how a reporting trip to see a super coral project inspired Under a White Sky and describe how the book is structured on a continuum—from small, regional interventions to more controversial, global strategies for solving the problems we’ve caused.
Elizabeth walks us through several of the interventions introduced in the book, including an electrified river in Chicago, efforts to gene edit toxic cane toads, and a promising coral sex engineering project. Listen in for Elizabeth’s insight on the ethical concerns associated with interventions like CRISPR technology and solar radiation management and learn how she thinks about doubling down on our efforts to control the natural world.
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The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History by Elizabeth Kolbert
Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change by Elizabeth Kolbert
Josiah Zayner
Dr. Mark Tizard
Dr. Klaus Lackner at the Center for Negative Carbon Emissions
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
The Leopard by Giuseppe di Lampedusa
Steward Brand
Paul Kingsnorth
David Remnick and Harry Finder on Reversing Climate Change S2EP37
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Making art about climate is useful in that it reaches a part of the brain that science does not. And climate fiction as a genre gives us a way to get the climate conversation started. Better yet, cli-fi that focuses on solutions might actually help us find a way forward.
Tory Stephens is the New England Network Weaver at Fix, the Grist Solutions Lab. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Tory joins Ross and cohost Jess Miles to discuss the launch of his team’s new climate fiction contest, Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors and explain what differentiates his team’s writing contest from others of its kind.
Tory offers insight around climate fiction and the subgenres of solarpunk and hopepunk, challenging writers to create intersectional, solutions-focused work. Listen in for an overview of Imagine 2200’s submission guidelines and learn how fiction might offer a pathway out of the climate crisis.
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Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors
‘We’re Launching a Fiction Contest’ on Grist
Fix Solutions Lab
The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory by Brian Greene
The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
‘Hopepunk, the Latest Storytelling Trend, Is All About Weaponized Optimism’ in Vox
Nnedi Okorafor
Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor
Black Panther
A Conspiracy of Stars by Olivia A. Cole
Jess Miles on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12
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In modern society, we’re conditioned to believe that acquiring more stuff makes our lives better. But what if getting back to basics leads to a richer life? What if consuming less and connecting with nature more opens us up to what really matters?
Markus Torgeby is the author of Under the Open Skies: Finding Peace and Health in Nature. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Markus joins Ross to explain how he came to live alone in the forest of Northern Sweden and describe how stripping life down to the basic needs helped him identify what was truly important and heal from trauma.
Markus shares his take on technology, discussing how to gauge how much screen time is right for you (and help your kids do the same). Listen in for insight on living a richer life by consuming less and get Markus’ advice on taking small steps to build your own deep relationship with nature.
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Dialogues of Plato by Plato
Peter Kalmus
Walden by Henry David Thoreau
Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer
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Did you know that Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citi are among the biggest funders of fossil fuel projects in the world? Would you rather leverage your money to fight climate change? What if you could move your money to an entity that builds its lending portfolio around things like clean energy, regenerative agriculture, and direct air capture?
Ravi Mikkelsen is the Cofounder of ATMOS Financial, a digital banking solution dedicated to funding a rapid transition to the clean economy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ravi joins Ross to discuss the growing cohort of impact companies at the intersection of climate and FinTech and explain how neobanks like ATMOS fit into the ecosystem.
Ravi shares the market research around why consumers choose a bank, challenging us to consider what kinds of projects our financial institution funds and how big banks might transition their lending portfolios away from fossil fuels. Listen in for insight around the benefits of banking with ATMOS and find out why you don’t have to sacrifice user experience or pay more to do the right thing. George Bailey for the win!
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The climate conversation is riddled with ideological battles. There are those who think climate change is the most pressing issue of our time pitted against those who don’t think it’s a big deal (if it’s even real). There are fights over ecological versus industrial forms of carbon removal. And there are those who believe that climate change can be reversed, while others have little hope that humanity will stick the landing. So, how do we move past these absolutist views and inspire action to solve the problem?
Jeffrey Howard is the Editor-in-Chief at Erraticus and the host of theDamn the Absolute! podcast. Both platforms take a pragmatic approach to ideas, challenging dogma, fundamentalism and ideological hubris. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jeffrey joins Ross to introduce the principles of pragmatism as a discrete philosophical school of thought, describing the intellectual context from which it emerged and how the philosophy seeks to reconcile the competing camps of Rationalism and Empiricism.
Jeffrey explores how a pragmatic approach might break logjams in the climate conversation, explaining how pragmatists balance building an inclusive community of inquirers with taking action to solve problems in the real world. Listen in to understand how a pragmatist thinks about a climate solution like carbon capture and learn how pragmatism addresses our lived challenges, encouraging us to hold our views with humility as we work to improve life for all people.
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Erraticus
Damn the Absolute! Podcast
Jeffrey Howard on Reversing Climate Change EP107
Sick Souls, Healthy Minds: How William James Can Save Your Life by John Kaag
Pragmatism: A New Name for Some Old Ways of Thinking by William James
William James
Subsistence Agriculture in the US: Reconnecting to Work, Nature and Community by Ashley Colby
On Richard Rorty on Damn the Absolute! EP001
Toward a Politics of Uncertainty on Damn the Absolute! EP002
David O’Hara on Damn the Absolute! EP007
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What does it mean to be a witnessing professional in the climate crisis?
What responsibility do scientists, doctors, journalists, lawyers, military officers and public health officials have to speak out and share their message of truth with the world? How does the religious concept of bearing witness translate to this secular context? And what can you and I do to become constructive witnesses for climate change?
Dr. Evan Kuehn is an Assistant Professor of Informational Literacy at North Park University and the author of Troeltsch’s Eschatological Absoluteand Theology Compromised: Schleiermacher, Troeltsch, and the Possibility of a Sociological Theology. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Kuehn joins Ross to discuss the recent Dædalus issue on Witnessing Climate Change, describing what it means to be a witness, how the concept shifts from a sacred to a secular context, and what risks are associated with witnessing in public as a professional.
Dr. Kuehn explores Robert Socolow’s idea of witnessing for the middle to depolarize the climate conversation, explaining what it looks like to engage in situational ethics and sharing how he deals with extreme views and guillotine memes. Listen in for Dr. Kuehn’s insight around the Jewish tradition of preserving social criticism and learn what you can do to be a middle builder and serve as a constructive witness for climate change.
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N.B. Ross couldn't remember at the time of recording which scholar provided that insight about Jewish scripture preserving social criticism in this episode, but is pretty sure it came from Amy-Jill Levine, and most likely her Great Courses lecture series on the Old Testament.
Dr. Evan Kuehn on Reversing Climate Change Bonus Episode
We’re Doomed. Now What? Essays on War and Climate Change by Roy Scranton
What Is the Bible? How an Ancient Library of Poems, Letters, and Stories Can Transform the Way You Think and Feel About Everything by Rob Bell
Proverbs 26:4-5
‘What is the Social Responsibility of Climate Scientists?’ by Naomi Oreskes
‘Witnessing for the Middle to Depolarize the Climate Change Conversation’ by Robert H. Socolow
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How do you restore an entire ecosystem at scale? Eroded desertified landscapes: can they be healed?
Journalist, filmmaker, and environmental educator John D. Liu is the Ecosystem Ambassador for the Commonland Foundation and Founder of the Ecosystem Restoration Camps Movement. He is best-known for his documentaries on the restoration of the Loess Plateau, like Hope in a Changing Climateand Green Gold. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how human activity caused the degradation of the Loess Plateau, describing how it went from being one of the most beautiful places on Earth to a barren landscape where the poorest Chinese people lived.
John discusses what made the Loess Plateau restoration so successful, offering insight around how the Chinese government engaged the people there and how the project design balances functional space for agriculture with land dedicated to natural regeneration. Listen in to understand how John thinks about restoring inherently complex ecosystems and learn how you can get involved in John’s work to transform our economy and facilitate ecosystem restoration all over the world.
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Much of agriculture depends upon synthetic fertilizer. But the production of that fertilizer is responsible for 3% of greenhouse gas emissions. That’s why innovators in the emerging field of synthetic biology are attempting to disrupt the status quo in agriculture and engineer new ways for growers to achieve the same yields with less fertilizer—and less environmental impact.
Mike Miille is the CEO of Joyn Bio, a biotech company that is using synthetic biology to try to make agriculture more sustainable. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mike joins Ross and Rebekah to explain how his team is engineering microbes to address unmet needs in agriculture and what differentiates synthetic biology from classical breeding or GMOs.
Mike introduces us to Joyn Bio’s work in designing nitrogen-fixing corn (the potential holy grail), responding to the argument that our system of monoculture isn’t worth saving and the concerns around scaling innovations in synthetic biology. Listen in to understand how Mike thinks about the unknowns of designing new organisms and learn about the other potentially game-changing advancements in ag that Mike’s team is working on right now.
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We have destroyed or severely disrupted many of the perennial ecosystems that were here in favor of annual crops. Crops that require the use of herbicide and mulch year after year until, eventually, the soil is depleted and we move on. So, how can we use the design principles of permaculture to restore the ecology of the planet, provide ourselves with all the food, fuels and fibers we need, and make money while we’re at it? And at scale no less!
Agroforestry farmer and permaculturist Mark Shepard is the CEO of Forest Agriculture Enterprises, Founder of Restoration Agriculture Development, and award-winning author of Restoration Agriculture: Real-World Permaculture for Farmers. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mark joins Ross and Christophe to share his understanding of permaculture, explaining how he applies its principles in a way that allows for scale and designs practical systems around the individual farmer’s machinery.
Mark introduces us to his idea of STUN agriculture (Strategic Total Utter Neglect), describing how nature solves every problem farmers have—at no cost and with very little effort. Listen in for insight on where science falls short in supporting the transition to restoration agriculture and learn how we can leverage permaculture to build economies around ecologically-designed systems.
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Restoration Agriculture: Real-World Permaculture for Farmers by Mark Shepard
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Tree Crops: A Permanent Agriculture by J. Russell Smith
The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming by Masanobu Fukuoka
Pawpaw: In Search of America’s Forgotten Fruit by Andrew Moore
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There are only 1.5M Atlantic salmon left in the world. And despite putting an end to commercial fishing, their numbers continue to dwindle. As a keystone species, the implications of their loss go far beyond not being able to order salmon for dinner. So, why are Atlantic salmon disappearing at such an alarming rate? What does their loss mean for other species? And how does it impact the rivers where they live?
Mark Kurlansky is a New York Times bestselling and James A. Beard award-winning author with a knack for seeing the broader implications of seemingly little things. He has written 33 books in all, including The Big Oyster: History on the Half Shell, Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the Worldand most recently, Salmon: A Fish, the Earth, and the History of Their Common Fate. His forthcoming book, The Unreasonable Virtue of Fly Fishingis due out in March of 2021.
On this episode of the podcast, Mark joins Ross to share what inspired him to choose salmon as the topic of his most recent book and explain why climate change is catastrophic for the fish. He weighs in on the problems with salmon farming (be it inland or on the water) and discusses why hatcheries are not a viable way to enhance the salmon population. Listen in for Mark’s insight on how the disappearance of Atlantic salmon will impact other species and learn how to be a conscious consumer of the popular fish.
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Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World by Mark Kurlansky
Salt: A World History by Mark Kurlansky
Paper: Paging Through History by Mark Kurlansky
The Basque History of the World: The Story of a Nation by Mark Kurlansky
A River Runs Through It by Norman Maclean
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We have explored, at length, the basket of biophysical stressors climate change could produce. And we’ve looked at how floods, droughts, tropical cyclones, ocean acidification, coral degradation (and the list goes on and on) might impact our food security and lead to the displacement of a lot of people. But what does the climate crisis mean for national security? How does the intelligence community think about climate change?
Dr. Rod Schoonover is a member of The Center for Climate & Security Advisory Board. He is also the Founder and CEO of the Ecological Futures Group, and an Adjunct Professor in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. He served in the US Intelligence Community for ten years as the Director of Environment and Natural Resources at the National Intelligence Council and Senior Analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the US Department of State.
On this episode, Dr. Schoonover joins Ross to discuss the foreign policy goals of the US and share his concerns around the current administration’s failure to call out anti-democratic values. He explains how the suppression of his written testimony for the House Intelligence Committee regarding the national security implications of climate change led to his resignation from the State Department. Listen in for Dr. Schoonover’s insight on what the US government should do to address the climate crisis and learn what could happen (from a security perspective) if we don’t take action on climate change.
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‘White House Tried to Stop Climate Science Testimony, Documents Show’ in The New York Times
Dr. Schoonover’s June 2019 Statement for the Record on the National Security Implications of Climate Change
Dr. Schoonover’s Op-Ed in The New York Times
Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103
Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus
Matthew Yglesias on Reversing Climate Change S2EP35
All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare
Sea Power: The History and Geopolitics of the World’s Oceans by Admiral James Stavridis, USN (Ret.)
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The vast majority of environmental nonfiction follows a predictable pattern: The writer goes out in nature and then tells us why it’s important to preserve the thing they experienced. But what if we could reach more people and maybe even change their point of view with a more experimental, more whimsical approach?
Jess Miles is a recent graduate of Chatham University and author of the MFA thesis ‘Midnight Sun,’ a collection of essays about her time on the Arctic island of Svalbard. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jess joins Ross to explain what inspired her to pursue science communication, sharing what she does to persuade readers and how she approaches environmental writing differently.
Jess opens up about her frustrating experience with canvassing for an environmental organization, describing what she learned about people (and herself!) and how she turned that bad experience into good writing. Listen in to understand why Jess incorporates elements of whimsy in her work and learn how experimental forms of writing can help readers see climate issues in a new light.
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Sunvault: Stories of Solarpunk and Eco-Speculation edited by Phoebe Wagner and Brontë Christopher Wieland
‘Hopepunk and Solarpunk: On Climate Narratives That Go Beyond the Apocalypse’ on Lit Hub
Arizona State Center for Science and the Imagination
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
Her
The Road
Jonathan Safran Foer on RCC S2EP29
Books by Gabriel García Márquez
Climate Fiction on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12
Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor
Who’s Saving the Planet? Podcast
Jess’ Blog on VR and Animal Rights
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For years now, we have debated the potential moral hazard of carbon removal, the fear being that we will abandon emissions reductions for the quick fix of carbon capture. But the science is clear: we simply can’t achieve our climate goals with mitigation alone. So, how do we design policy that works toward net zero using a binding emissions reduction pathway AND a strategy for scaling up carbon removal?
Christoph Beuttler is the CDR Manager at Climeworks, the global leader in direct air capture technology. He also serves as the Deputy CEO of The Risk Dialogue Foundation and Founding Member of the Board for the Negative Emissions Platform. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christoph joins Ross to discuss Climeworks’ modular approach to direct air capture, describing how they use solid sorbents to capture carbon dioxide and how that CO2 is either stored permanently or used to replace fossil inputs.
Christoph shares his understanding of carbon removal regulations in Europe, explaining how EU businesses interact with policy and why companies are driving voluntary carbon removal markets. Listen in for insight around the future of the carbon removal sector as a whole and learn how you can help Climeworks realize its audacious goal to achieve gigaton scale in the next two decades!
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Klaus Lackner’s Moisture Swing Sorbent
California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard
45Q Credit for Carbon Oxide Sequestration
Paris Agreement
Microsoft Sustainability
Shopify Environment
Stripe Climate
‘Europe’s Climate Goal: Revolution’ in Politico
Climeworks’ Orca DAC Plant
Carbon180
Climeworks’ Direct Air Capture Summit 2020
Brian von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change (Bonus)
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Carbon dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas that contributes to climate change. In fact, methane emissions are responsible for 16% of the warming we experience today. And because methane is more potent than CO2, we can make a big impact in a short period of time by addressing the concentrated, continuous methane seeps that exist around the world.
Olya Irzak is the Founder and CEO of Frost Methane, a company working to combat climate change through the deployment of remote methane destruction devices. On this episode of the podcast, Olya joins Ross and Christophe to discuss why she chose to focus on methane emissions and explain how her team’s technology works to convert concentrated methane into CO2.
Olya describes Frost Methane’s initial work with Arctic permafrost and introduces their new application of the technology in coal mines, sharing how the business generates revenue through carbon markets like California’s cap-and-trade market. Listen in for Olya’s insight on the benefits of voluntary markets and learn her approach to prioritizing climate interventions to make the biggest impact.
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Google’s Climate Change Initiative
‘7,000 Underground Gas Bubbles Poised to Explode in Arctic’ in The Siberian Times
Video of Exploding Under-Ice Methane Gas in Siberia
Laughlin Barker
Pleistocene Park
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Dr. Leslie Field
Ice 911
ASU’s Arctic Ice Management Project
University of Beijing Research on Calving
Silver Lining
‘Sometimes Success Is Right Under Your Feet, As Tomato Grower Knows’ in AP News
California’s Cap-and-Trade Program
Carbon Offsetting and Reduction Scheme for International Aviation
Stripe Climate
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The feature documentary 2040 poses this question: What would the world look like in 2040 if we embraced the best climate solutions already available to us? One such solution involves restoring ocean ecosystems through marine permaculture, a strategy that leverages kelp forests to drawdown CO2.
Dr. Brian von Herzen serves as the Executive Director of the Climate Foundation, the organization using marine permaculture to regenerate life in seas and soils with the goal of reversing climate change in our lifetime. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Brian returns to the show to discuss his appearance in 2040 and explain what the Climate Foundation is working on now as they shift from R&D to building an industry.
Brian introduces us to the fundamentals of marine permaculture, exploring its capacity to regenerate life in the ocean and feed billions of people in the process. Listen in for insight on becoming an ocean entrepreneur and learn about the potential for marine permaculture to drawdown carbon (at a remarkably low cost) and move us from fear to love—one kelp forest at a time.
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2040
Damon Gameau
Drawdown Seattle
The Art of Asking: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help by Amanda Palmer
Minter Ellison
Books by Bill Mollison
David Holmgren
Permaculture Design Principles
The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming by Masanobu Fukuoka
The Intrepid Foundation
The University of Tasmania’s Permaculture Research
C-Combinator
David King’s Piece on Climate Change Intervention in The Washington Post
My Octopus Teacher on Netflix
The Seasteading Institute
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Solving the climate crisis is challenging because it requires both dramatic behavioral change and a great deal of capital. And yet, when faced with a global health crisis, governments were willing to enact multitrillion-dollar aid packages and people radically shifted their behavior in a matter of weeks. So, what if we mobilized against climate change similarly to the way we responded to the coronavirus?
Sir David King is the former Chief Scientific Advisor to the Government of the United Kingdom and Rick Parnell is the CEO of the Foundation for Climate Restoration. Together, they coauthored The Washington Post piece, ‘Stopping Climate Change Could Cost Less Than Fighting COVID-19.’On this episode of the podcast, Sir David and Rick join Ross to discuss the opportunity governments have to invest in climate repair as we rebuild our economies in the aftermath of the global pandemic.
Sir David and Rick compare the economic impact of reversing climate change with that of COVID, describing the catastrophic consequences of rising sea levels and explaining what Europe, China, and the US are doing to both reduce emissions and scale direct air capture technologies. Listen in to understand why the countries that took the advice of scientists fared well in the pandemic and how we might learn from their example to respond to the climate crisis.
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Foundation for Climate Restoration
Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge University
Rick on Carbon Removal Newsroom
‘Stopping Climate Change Could Cost Less Than Fighting COVID-19’ in The Washington Post
The Thunderbird Study on Market Opportunities in Climate Restoration
Sir David’s 2006 Pandemic Prediction
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The scale of the climate crisis requires that companies change the way they operate. Yes, it would be easier to simply purchase carbon offsets and continue to do business as usual. But if we are going to succeed in reversing climate change, companies must take the next step and transform their processes from cradle to gate (or even grave if they can!) So, how does a business get started on the path to sustainability?
Erin Meezan is the Vice President and Chief Sustainability Officer at Interface, Inc., a pioneering modular flooring company with a deep commitment to sustainability. Interface is also the recipient of a 2020 UN Global Climate Action Award and the subject of the new documentary Beyond Zero. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Erin joins Ross to explain what inspired Interface’s commitment to the environment and how the team approached the sustainability conversation with its investors early on.
Erin discusses the company’s recent launch of carbon-negative carpet tiles, walking us through the value associated with doing business more sustainably and the necessity of conducting a full life cycle assessment of a given product. Listen in to understand how Interface is influencing other businesses to make fundamental change and learn how YOUR company might take its first steps to sustainability!
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Interface, Inc.
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Interface’s Climate Take Back Mission
The Ecology of Commerce: A Declaration of Sustainability by Paul Hawken
Paul Hawken
FLOR
Aquafil
Buy Clean California
CarbonCure on Reversing Climate Change S2EP16
2020 UN Global Climate Action Awards
Beyond Zero
Interface’s Lessons Learned Report
Confessions of a Radical Industrialist: Profits, People, Purpose—Doing Business by Respecting the Earth by Ray C. Anderson with Robin White
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People resist reading about climate change because it seems less immediate than other pressing issues. Add to that the fact that the climate crisis doesn’t lend itself to narrative. So, then, how do you tell an ‘untellable story’ in a way that draws readers in and effectively reorients the way they see the world?
Henry Finder and David Remnick are the coeditors of The Fragile Earth: Writing from The New Yorker on Climate Change. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Henry and David join Ross to explain what inspired the creation of this new anthology, discussing how they made decisions regarding what pieces to include and what makes writing about climate change such a distinct challenge.
Henry and David weigh in on their work as editorial director and editor at The New Yorker, sharing the process they use to conceive of and manage new projects and describing the magazine’s ongoing commitment to long-form writing. Listen in to understand how optimistic Henry and David are about our ability to address the climate crisis and learn how The Fragile Earth tells the story of climate change through pieces by Bill McKibben, Elizabeth Kolbert, and Jonathan Franzen, among many others.
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The Fragile Earth: Writing from The New Yorker on Climate Change edited by David Remnick and Henry Finder
The New Yorker
David Remnick at The New Yorker
Lenin’s Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire by David Remnick
The Bridge: The Life and Rise of Barack Obama by David Remnick
The New Yorker Radio Hour
The End of Nature by Bill McKibben
Elizabeth Kolbert
Elizabeth Kolbert at The New Yorker
Bill McKibben on Reversing Climate Change EP095
Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change by Elizabeth Kolbert
The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History by Elizabeth Kolbert
‘Lake Chad: The World’s Most Complex Humanitarian Disaster’ in The New Yorker
Jonathan Franzen’s Piece on Antarctica
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Prior to 2020, the largest number of acres burned by wildfire in California was 1.3M. Compare that to the 4M acres wiped out by fire this year. What’s more, forest fires are spreading much more quickly and releasing more heat—which leads to last-minute evacuations, a dramatic increase of smoke in the air, and the phenomenon of fire tornados.
Daniel Duane is the surfer, naturalist, and author behind this month’s WIRED cover story, ‘The West’s Infernos Are Melting Our Sense of How Fire Works.’ On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Daniel explains why the 2020 fire season is so remarkable and how an accumulating fuel bed on the forest floor contributes to the intensity and severity of the wildfires. He offers insight on indigenous fire management, describing when the anti-burning culture took hold in America and how political pressures make it impossible for our government agencies to manage forests well.
Daniel goes on to introduce us to the terrifying phenomenon of a fire tornado, sharing how forest management practices and climate change are both to blame for the increasingly unpredictable, record-breaking wildfires we experience. Listen in for Daniel’s take on what kind of management practices we need to decrease our risk and find out how a pro-development, YIMBY movement could prevent destructive forest fires in the future.
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‘The West’s Infernos Are Melting Our Sense of How Fire Works’ in WIRED
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Daniel at WIRED
Daniel at Outside Magazine
US Forest Service
Charles C. Mann on Reversing Climate Change S2EP15
M. Kat Anderson
Tending the Wild: Native American Knowledge and the Management of California’s Natural Resources by M. Kat Anderson
University of California Forestry Department
Brandon Collins
The Sagehen Experimental Forest
CAL FIRE
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“Life does not subtract things; it liberates you from them.
It makes you lighter so that you can fly higher and reach the fullness.”
--Facundo Cabral
Losing your home to a forest fire is a lesson in impermanence and nonattachment. And while Diego Saez-Gil is still processing the loss, he is using the experience as a catalyst, reaffirming his commitment to the pursuit of climate solutions.
Diego is the founder and CEO of Pachama, a tech company that leverages AI to drive carbon capture and validate the progress of forest restoration projects for carbon markets, and author of the Medium article, "On Losing Everything to the Climate Crisis, Except for Hope." On this bonus episode of the podcast, Diego joins Ross to discuss how losing his home to a forest fire has given him renewed energy around his work and made him more of a minimalist than ever before.
Diego explains how both climate change and poor forest management practices are to blame for 2020’s devastating forest fires, speaking to the permanence issues surrounding ecological methods of sequestering carbon and how carbon markets can make reforestation for carbon sequestration economically viable. Listen in for insight on the success of Pachama’s recent fundraising efforts and learn how you can help protect our global forests by joining Diego’s team.
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US Bureau of Land Management
US Forest Service
Stripe’s Negative Emissions Commitment
Breakthrough Energy Ventures
Serena Ventures
Scott Belsky
Tobi Lutke
Amazon’s Climate Pledge
Pachama’s Blog Welcoming New Investors
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Can you advocate for climate solutions and dramatic population growth at the same time? Or are the two ideas mutually exclusive? Matthew Yglesias argues that while electoral politics is a zero-sum game, policy is not. And any two priorities can be reconciled to craft a win-win, provided both sides accept the premise that we need to take action on climate change.
Matthew Yglesias is the cofounder of Vox, host of The Weeds Podcast, journalist and author of the national bestseller,One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross and Paul to discuss the premise of his book, explaining why it’s crucial for the US to grow its population and commit to keeping our #1 status in the world. He shares his liberal approach to this conservative idea, describing how immigration makes us stronger and what we can do to support families with children.
Matthew goes on to offer insight on the dysfunction of American federalism, discussing how a shared goal would create more constructive politics, and why it’s shortsighted to invoke climate change as an argument against population growth. Listen in for Matthew’s take on why we need right of center solutions to climate change and learn how we can prioritize both population growth and climate solutions in a way that moves America forward.
Nori on Patreon
Vox
Matthew on Vox
The Weeds Podcast
One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger by Matthew Yglesias
The Idea of a European Superstate by Glyn Morgan
Bryan Caplan on Reversing Climate Change S2EP2
Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration by Bryan Caplan
‘Made in Hollywood, Censored by Beijing’ in PEN America
Wendell Berry
Dorothy Day
Brad Plumer at The New York Times
Green New Deal
Matthew on Conversations with Tyler EP104
Getting to Yes: How to Negotiate Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher
The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama
David Roberts on Reversing Climate Change S2EP3
Benji Backer on Reversing Climate Change EP074
Bob Inglis on Reversing Climate Change EP086
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In the past, conferences addressing market solutions to the climate crisis were attended by professionals with ‘sustainability’ in their titles. But we’ve begun to realize that sustainability is everyone’s responsibility, and the audience has expanded. In fact, this year’s VERGE 20 (register at this link with Nori's 15% off discount code) is more accessible than ever, welcoming anyone who’s interested to learn more about sustainable food systems and carbon removal.
Jim Giles is the Conference Chair of VERGE Food and VERGE Carbon at GreenBiz. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Jim joins Ross to discuss the upcoming GreenBiz conference, VERGE 20, sharing some of the notable sessions and speakers on topics like purchasing carbon offsets and scaling regenerative agriculture.
Jim explains how VERGE will look different this year, describing how his team has pivoted to a virtual format, and what they are doing to recreate 1:1 connections among the 10K projected attendees! Listen in for insight around the growing interest in sustainability and find out how YOU can be a part of the VERGE 20 online conference.
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VERGE 20 Accelerate
Solidia
Jonathan Goldberg
Carbon Direct
Anna Escuer
Google Sustainability
Google’s Recent Climate Commitments Announcement
Robyn O’Brien
rePlant Capital
Steele Lorenz
Farmers Business Network
Hopin
Circularity 20
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One of the beauties of regenerative agriculture is that it revisits traditional land stewardship practices and can leverage innovation to apply those principles on a broader scale. To that end, the team at Nori is scaling its efforts to reward farmers for the carbon they sequester in the process. But we need to expand our team to make it happen!
Rebekah Carlson is the Agriculture Supply Lead here at Nori, where she combines her experience in agronomy, soil science, and crop modeling to effectively enroll farmers into the Nori marketplace. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Rebekah joins Ross to discuss the fundamentals of agronomy, explaining how her experience as a crop consultant informs her work at Nori.
Rebekah describes how Nori leverages feedback from farmers to streamline the enrollment process, adding the Smart Defaults tool and integrating its system with other farm management platforms like Granular. Listen in to understand how Nori is working with farmers—and find out if you are a good fit to join Rebekah’s team as a Supply Enrollment and Account Manager.
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Nori Application for Supply Enrollment and Account Manager, Agriculture
Forever Green Initiative
Granular
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Are you a UX Designer? Love what Nori is doing? Please apply here. In this episode, you'll hear more details about the position from Nori cofounder Alexsandra Guerra, as well as the general philosophy of hiring, application design, etc.
The book Ross mentions is Don't Make Me Think by Steve Krug.
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Sailors rely on wind patterns and currents to make decisions about the expeditions they take, tracking weather patterns along the way and adjusting their route as necessary. But climate change has made winds less consistent and weather patterns less predictable. How does that impact sailing?
John Kretschmer is the President of John Kretschmer Sailing and the author of several books about his voyages at sea, including his latest release, Sailing to the Edge of Time: The Promise, the Challenges and the Freedom of Ocean Voyaging. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how he came to love boats and books, describing how sailing facilitates deep and powerful intellectual discussion.
John weighs in on how climate change has impacted the way he plans and conducts passages, offering insight on how the trade winds and the Gulf Stream have changed in the last 30 years. Listen in to understand how sailors cope with volatile weather and find out how climate change has influenced the expeditions John is planning for 2021 and 2022.
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John Kretschmer Sailing
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John’s Celestial Navigation Workshop
Sailing Alone Around the World by Joshua Slocum
Voyage of the Liberdade: A Journey from Brazil to America in a Hand-Built Boat by Joshua Slocum
Books by Wendell Berry
Heraclitus
Odysseus
Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis
Cornell Sailing Publications
Windy.com
The Terror by Dan Simmons
The Long Way by Bernard Moitessier
Wanderer by Sterling Hayden
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On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori CEO Paul Gambill and Director of Corporate Development Alexsandra Guerra join Ross to talk about the $4M seed round Nori just closed, what that means for the company, and how hiring will proceed. Tune in to learn more about Nori careers and what is happening at the company.
Resources:
Coverage of Nori's round in TechCrunch and GeekWire
The Medium post Paul wrote about Nori's round
The Nori Careers page
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How are you spending your time? Is it aligned with what you genuinely care about? In 2018, Heidi Lim quit her role in enterprise software to solve climate change full-time. What steps did she take to identify a new, purpose-driven path and then land a role in carbon removal?
Heidi is the Chief of Staff at Opus 12, a company working to recycle CO2 into cost-competitive chemicals and fuels, and the author of two popular Medium articles, ‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ and ‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Heidi joins Ross to walk us through her process for finding meaningful work, explaining what inspired her to pursue a role in the carbon removal space.
Heidi shares her strategies for figuring out what kind of purposeful work you want to pursue, challenging us to reach out to people on paths we’re interested in and embed ourselves in communities with likeminded individuals. Listen in for Heidi’s insight on turning content creation into career opportunities and learn how to plant the seeds that will lead to your dream role.
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‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’ by Heidi Lim
‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ by Heidi Lim
Heidi on Instagram
Veg T-Rex on Instagram
Heidi on Twitter
AirMiners
Apply to Join AirMiners Slack
Opus 12
My Climate Journey
APIENC
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
Carbon180
Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103
Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Episode
We Are Climate Designers: The Podcast
Climatebase
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Nature is self-organizing, self-regulating, and self-healing. And if we follow her patterns, we can heal our ecosystem, produce better quality food, and more profitable farms and ranches. So, what does it look like when we adopt regenerative agricultural practices that work with nature’s principles? And what can we do to support the farmers and ranchers who understand the relationship between carbon and soil health?
Farmer, rancher and soil health pioneer Gabe Brown is the bestselling author of Dirt to Soil: One Family’s Journey into Regenerative Agriculture,and his work is featured in the new Netflix documentary, Kiss the Ground. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Gabe joins Ross and Christophe to explain what inspired his own transition to regenerative agricultural practices and how he works with farmers and ranchers, using the context and tools available to move them down a regenerative path.
Gabe walks us through the six principles of how nature functions, describing how we can work with nature to heal our ecosystem and why we all benefit from a shift from monoculture to polyculture. Listen in for Gabe’s insight on how a farmer or rancher’s profitability depends on carbon and learn how you can vote with your consumer dollars to promote regenerative agricultural practices.
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Reversing Climate Change alumnus and founder and president of the American Conservation Coalition, Benji Backer, returns to the show to tell us about The Conservation Coalition's new multimedia project, The Electric Election Roadtrip 2020. Benji and his team are traveling the country in a Tesla X to investigate the multiple overlapping climate solutions being developed. You can follow the show and its video on Facebook, TCC's website, or the podcast via audio in your podcast app of choice.
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The Electric Election 2020 Roadtrip website
American Conservation Coalition's Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, website
The Conservation Coalition website, and Twitter
Benji Backer's Twitter
The Trump panel with scientists referenced in this episode
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“We have not settled America. We have colonized America. Now, we’ve got to figure out … how to actually live here. How are we going to move forward? Everybody needs to be an agrarian now.”
— Mary Berry
We live in a culture that pushes us to keep moving. Obsessed with upward mobility, we keep searching for something more. But this ‘problem of mobility’ robs us of the opportunity to belong to a place. To develop deep cultural ties with the land and each other. And Mary Berry contends that this disconnection and lack of community is the source of many of our problems here in the US.
Mary Berry is the Executive Director of The Berry Center, a nonprofit that advocates for farmers, land-conserving communities, and healthy regional economies. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mary joins Ross to explain how her family’s history as part of the Burley Tobacco Growers Cooperative inspired her to build The Berry Center and describe how the Burley Tobacco program’s principles are at work in her team’s Our Home Place Meat initiative.
Mary offers insight around the value of belonging to a place we love, discussing what it means to be part of a community and why we need to initiate small solutions locally—rather than waiting for one big policy or program to save us. Listen in to understand Mary’s argument against our current economy and learn how The Berry Center’s work goes beyond agriculture to foster cultural change.
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Nori
The Berry Center
The Berry Center on Facebook
Call (502) 845-9200
Agrarian Culture Center & Bookstore
Our Home Place Meat
Burley Tobacco Growers Cooperative Association
Wendell Berry Farming Program at Sterling College
Wes Jackson
Nick Offerman
Becoming Native to This Place by Wes Jackson
Gary Snyder
Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry
Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community by Robert D. Putnam
Wendell Berry’s Port William Novels
The World-Ending Fire by Wendell Berry
Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander
50-Year Farm Bill
Organic Valley Dairy Cooperative
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Regardless of where you stand on the ethics of eating meat, the fact is, it’s a big part of the climate math. It provokes strong feelings all around, some of which may be contradictory within one’s self. And so much of the climate analysis is dependent upon how the animals were raised, marketed, and so on. It’s hard to speak (at least for some) with crisp lines. In this episode we wade into these details.
Jonathan Safran Foer is the bestselling author of Eating Animals, Everything Is Illuminated, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close,and We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast. Today, Jonathan joins Ross to describe his relationship with meat, explaining what inspired him to become a vegetarian at the age of nine and why he is willing to admit to moral failure when he grabs a burger at the airport.
Jonathan shares his proposal for reducing our meat consumption as posited in We Are the Weather, weighing in on why it’s dangerous to make our food choices such a big part of our identity. Listen in for Jonathan’s insight on what makes climate change such a difficult story to tell and learn why Jonathan thinks reserving meat for dinner is a productive form of climate activism.
Resources:
We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast by Jonathan Safran Foer
The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael Pollan
‘Options for Keeping the Food System Within Environmental Limits’ in Nature
Bill Niman
Wendell Berry
Kate Knibbs on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12
The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells
Learning to Die in the Anthropocene by Roy Scranton
Peter Singer
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Direct air capture or DAC is one of the many strategies we need to employ to achieve the goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. So, how do we scale up the DAC industry to capture the hundreds of millions of tons of CO2 we need to remove from the atmosphere? And what would that kind of growth mean in terms of business opportunities and job creation?
John Larsen is a Director at Rhodium Group, an independent research firm that analyzes global disruptive trends. He leads the firm’s US power sector and energy systems research, specializing in the analysis of clean energy policy and market trends. Today, John joins Ross, Christophe, and Aldyen to discuss his team’s most recent report and associated webinar, Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up.
John outlines the policy recommendations he suggests to ramp up the construction of DAC plants, offering insight around potential government subsidies for decarbonization and sharing what policy solutions work (and which ones don’t). Listen in as John explores the clean tech innovations he finds interesting and introduces us to the most promising commercialization pathways for reaching net-zero emissions by 2050!
Resources:
Rhodium Group
John at Rhodium Group
Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up
Capturing Leadership: Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture Technology
45Q Tax Credit for Carbon Sequestration
California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard
The DOD’s Plan to Produce Jet Fuel from Seawater on Aircraft Carriers
Klaus Lackner at Arizona State University
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Ranching has been vilified as a major contributor to climate change. But what if it’s not the cow but the HOW? The fact is, animals have always lived and grazed on grasslands, and when we leverage regenerative grazing to raise livestock, we can rebuild the soil and sequester carbon in the grass and soil, sourcing materials like leather, fiber, and meat in a more responsible way.
Chris Kerston is the Chief Commercial Officer of the Land to Market Program at the Savory Institute, a nonprofit working to regenerate the world’s grasslands through Holistic Management. Today, Chris joins Ross to explain how the Savory Institute promotes regenerative grazing and share their vision of a future where farmers and ranchers work together.
Chris walks us through the Land to Market program’s Ecological Outcome Verification (EOV) protocol, describing why they measure a breadth of ecosystem services versus sequestered carbon alone. Listen in to understand how Savory is supporting brands like Timberland and learn how the Land to Market Program can help us make more informed choices about what we consume.
Resources:
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Savory Institute
Chris at Savory Institute
Savory’s Land to Market Program
Kiss the Ground
Savory’s Partnership with Timberland
Diana Rodgers
Sacred Cow: The Case for (Better) Meat: Why Well-Raised Meat is Good for You and Good for the Planet by Diana Rodgers and Robb Wolf
Peter Donovan at the Soil Carbon Coalition
The Whole Foods Diet: The Lifesaving Plan for Health and Longevity by John Mackey, Alona Pulde, MD, and Matthew Lederman MD
Joel Salatin
Will Harris
Gabe Brown
The Nature Conservancy
Savory’s Land to Market Brand Partners
Leather Working Group
Wendell Berry
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We live in a point-and-click society where labor is seen as something to overcome. But what if we’ve got it wrong? Philosopher turned farmer Dr. Scott H. Moore contends that entertainment doesn’t have to be passive. In fact, activities like reading Dante, growing tomatoes or fixing our own plumbing can bring us a lot of joy and satisfaction—and maybe even transform the way we see the world.
Dr. Moore is an Associate Professor of Philosophy and Great Texts at Baylor University and the author of How to Burn a Goat: Farming with the Philosophers. Today, Dr. Moore joins Ross to discuss the connections among philosophy, the Classics, theology and farming, explaining how Wendell Berry inspired his decision to become a farmer, and exploring how great works like Dante’s Divine Comedy remain relevant in modern life.
Dr. Moore challenges us to rethink our notion of labor, describing the rewards of problem-solving with our hands and engaging in activities like gardening or woodworking—as opposed to just buying the things we want. Listen in for Dr. Moore’s insight on making leisure more intentional and learn how Christian thought and the Classics can help us cultivate a sense of gratitude and initiate meaningful conversations about what really matters.
Resources:
Dr. Moore at Baylor University
How to Burn a Goat: Farming with the Philosophers by Scott H. Moore
Books by Wendell Berry
The Divine Comedy Volume I: Inferno by Dante Alighieri, translated by Mark Musa
The Great Courses: Dante’s Divine Comedy
The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis
Nick Offerman
Good Clean Fun: Misadventures in Sawdust at Offerman Woodshop by Nick Offerman
The Unsettling of America by Wendell Berry, narrated by Nick Offerman
Joel Salatin on Reversing Climate Change EP072
Quill Robinson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP18
Leisure: The Basis of Culture by Josef Pieper
Books by Gregory A. Boyd
Books by David Bentley Hart
G.K. Chesterton
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There is a temptation to believe that science and technology will save us from climate change, while we continue business as usual. But we have already emitted huge levels of CO2 into the atmosphere, and it’s going to take both carbon capture at the source and direct air capture (DAC) from ambient air to make a dent in the record atmospheric concentration of 415ppm we hit in 2019.
Dr. Jennifer Wilcox is the James H. Manning Chaired Professor of Chemical Engineering at Worcester Polytechnic Institute and the author of the first textbook on carbon capture. Today, Dr. Wilcox joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the distinction between carbon capture in general and direct air capture specifically and explain why we need both strategies to succeed in reversing climate change.
Dr. Wilcox goes on to describe the two leading DAC technologies, solvents and solid sorbents, sharing how we might decide where to build plants and what tech to use in a given situation. Listen in for Dr. Wilcox’s insight on conducting a techno-economic assessment on systems that have yet to be deployed and learn how you can get involved in the ongoing advancement of carbon management.
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Dr. Wilcox on Twitter
Dr. Wilcox on Google Scholar
Dr. Wilcox’s TED Talk
David Biello at TED
‘Cost Analysis of Carbon Capture and Sequestration of Process Emissions from the US Industrial Sector’ in Environmental Science & Technology
‘Cost Analysis of Carbon Capture and Sequestration from US Natural Gas-Fired Power Plants’ in Environmental Science & Technology
‘Cost Analysis of Direct Air Capture and Sequestration Coupled to Low-Carbon Thermal Energy in the United States’ in Environmental Science & Technology
Carbfix
Sherwood’s Rule
Climeworks
Petra Nova
Carbon Engineering
Global Thermostat
American Physical Society 2011 Report
Lenfest Center for Sustainable Energy
Books by Wendell Berry
Charles Eisenstein
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We know that minority populations bear an unequal burden when it comes to climate change. And yes, Black Americans are concerned about the climate crisis, but they don’t see the environment as a top-tier issue. So, what can advocates and policymakers do to make climate change more relevant to Black communities and ensure their inclusion in a clean energy transition?
Jared DeWese is Senior Communications Advisor for the Climate & Energy Program at Third Way, a center-left federal policy think tank based in Washington, D.C. Jared joins Ross to discuss the organization’s recent report, ‘Black Americans Care About Climate Change (But It’s Complicated),’ sharing the top takeaways from their qualitative research and explaining how advocates can mobilize communities of color around climate change by connecting the issue with their daily lives.
Jared weighs in on how Black Americans are impacted by climate change, introducing us to the idea of environmental racism and exploring what we can do to confront and transform discriminatory systems and policies. Listen in for Jared’s insight on promoting climate policy in a divided Congress and learn why he is optimistic about the potential for real progress at this particular moment in history.
Resources:
Third Way Energy on Twitter
Jared on Twitter
Black Americans Care About Climate Change (But It’s Complicated)
Yale Program on Climate Communication Study on Race & Attitudes Toward Climate Change
The Environmental Kuznets Curve
When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequity in Twentieth-Century America by Ira Katznelson
Joe Biden’s Plan for a Clean Energy Revolution & Environmental Justice
Otto von Bismarck & the Welfare State
The History of Rome Podcast
Revolutions Podcast
The Life & Legacy of John Lewis on The Daily Podcast
James Baldwin on Being Black in America
Alexander Hamilton on Slavery as Wasted Potential
W.E.B. Du Bois’ Concept of Double Consciousness
The Environmental Defense Fund Poll on African Americans & Clean Energy Resources
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Many indigenous communities see the climate crisis as another form of colonialism. First World countries have colonized the atmosphere with their greenhouse gas emissions. And there is a risk that carbon removal infrastructure reinforces business-as-usual. So, what is the best approach to decolonizing the atmosphere? How can we tackle climate change in a way that fits with broader progressive goals around equity and social justice?
Dr. Holly Jean Buck is a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA’s Institute on the Environment and Sustainability and the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration. Dr. Buck joins Ross to discuss her recent article in Progressive International, ‘How to Decolonize the Atmosphere.’ She describes how the ideas in The Red Deal: Indigenous Action to Save Our Earth informed her thinking and introduces us to the concept of settler colonialism as it relates to climate change.
Dr. Buck walks us through her three progressive goals for carbon removal: 1) link carbon with the managed decline of fossil fuels, 2) ensure public ownership and return on investment, and 3) advocate for a global framework for carbon removal. Listen in for Dr. Buck’s insight on the interconnectedness of the climate crisis with the other major issues we face and find out why she is concerned about the way social media may be influencing scientific research.
Resources
Dr. Buck’s Website
Dr. Buck on Twitter
The Red Deal Part 1: End the Occupation
Beyond Wiindigo Infrastructure by Winona LaDuke, Deborah Cowen
After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck
Global CCS Institute Report on Climate Change
Rhodium Report on Jobs & Direct Air Capture
Rhodium Report on Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture
Sad by Design: On Platform Nihilism by Geert Lovink
Nexus by Ramez Naam
Daniel Schmachtenberger
‘Climate Change is a Waste Management Problem’ in Issues in Science and Technology
All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare
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Carbon dioxide levels are double what they were prior the Industrial Revolution. And we know that reducing emissions is simply not going to be enough to avoid widespread ecological collapse. We need strategies for removing CO2 from the atmosphere at scale. So, what if green sand beaches could provide a promising solution to climate change that is nature-based, affordable, and can be deployed around the globe?
Kelly Erhart and Tom Green are the Cofounder and Executive Director, respectively, of Project Vesta, an organization dedicated to capturing a trillion tonnes of excess CO2 in rock through coastal enhanced weathering. Kelly and Tom join Ross to explain how they are creating green sand beaches with olivine to remove CO2 from the atmosphere faster and store it in limestone on the sea floor. They discuss the benefits and potential risks of enhanced weathering in an aquatic environment as well as the permanence of Project Vesta’s sequestration process.
Kelly and Tom share the news of how Stripe came to be their first customer, describing how the nonprofit is funded and what’s behind their decision to make the technology open-source. Listen in to understand how the enhanced weathering process might help solve the ocean acidification problem and how Project Vesta sees their solution's scalability and cost-effectiveness.
Resources
Project Vesta
Project Vesta’s Research Page
Project Vesta on Instagram
Project Vesta on Facebook
Project Vesta on Twitter
Eric Matzner on Carbon Removal Newsroom EP018
Climate Change: Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide from Climate.gov
‘Exoskeleton Dissolution with Mechanoreceptor Damage in Larval Dungeness Crab Related to Severity of Present-Day Ocean Acidification Vertical Gradients’ in Science of the Total Environment
Stripe’s Negative Emissions Commitment
Stripe’s Partnership with Project Vesta
Air Miners
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Have you ever wondered what happens to your clothes after you drop them off at Goodwill? Or where your electronics go once you’ve left them at the recycling center? Yes, some of our excess is exported to emerging markets around the world and either resold or harvested for parts. Is that cool? And what can we do to shop in a way that reduces our environmental impact?
Adam Minter is a columnist at Bloomberg Opinion and the author of Junkyard Planet: Travels in the Billion-Dollar Trash Tradeand Secondhand: Travels in the New Global Garage Sale. Today, Adam joins Ross to explain how being born into a family of junk dealers informed his career as a journalist. He introduces us to what happens when we donate clothing to Goodwill, describing how items are sorted and resold or exported to other markets around the world.
Adam weighs in on why it’s not unethical to send our e-waste to West Africa or resell used car seats in Mexico, challenging us to worry more about the quality of the products we buy and less about where they’re exported when we’re done with them. Listen in for Adam’s insight around the value of mass market collectibles and learn how to shift your consumer thinking from immediate cost to total cost of ownership.
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Adam at Bloomberg Opinion
Junkyard Planet: Travels in the Billion-Dollar Trash Trade by Adam Minter
Secondhand: Travels in the New Global Garage Sale by Adam Minter
Scrap Magazine
Speed Queen
Unbundled Airlines on Planet Money EP517
Kelley Blue Book
Patagonia Worn Wear
Frugalwoods
Meet the Frugalwoods: Achieving Financial Independence Through Simple Living by Elizabeth Willard Thames
The Gentle Art of Swedish Death Cleaning: How to Free Yourself and Your Family from a Lifetime of Clutter by Margareta Magnusson
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The American Constitution provides the ‘nuts and bolts of liberty,’ putting constraints on the government and promising equality before the law. But the challenge is that it relies on state officials to enforce the law impartially. What if the blockchain could help us avoid these human-level implementation problems and effectively automate some features of our bureaucracy?
Dr. Nick Cowen is a lecturer in the School of Social and Political Sciences at the University of Lincoln and the author of the paper, ‘Markets for Rules: The Promise and Peril of Blockchain Distributed Governance.’ Today, Nick is back to discuss the potential benefits of blockchain governance structures, including the ability to apply law impartially and reduce censorship. He explores the idea of consent as it applies to the blockchain and explains how the technology prevents the off-diagonals that manifest out of subsidiarity.
Nick weighs in on whether the blockchain will become a competition to be the best or the most permissive and describes how the technology might influence our political systems—and vice versa. Listen in for Nick’s insight around the application of civil versus common law traditions via the blockchain and learn how we can leverage blockchain technology for environmental governance.
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‘Markets for Rules: The Promise and Peril of Blockchain Distributed Governance’ by Nick Cowen
Ethereum
John Rawls
John Locke
Quill Robinson on RCC S2EP18
Tax Justice Network
Ozark
James M. Buchanan
Adam Smith
Being Me Being You: Adam Smith and Empathy by Samuel Fleischacker
Alan Partridge
Dr. Anton Howes on Twitter
Ilia Murtazashvili
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What's the future got in store for architecture? A return to tried and true organic construction methods like adobe or rammed earth? Buildings that are as alive as human bodies? Something in between? How do we create more beautiful and livable spaces while also making the built environment carbon-negative?
This week's guest is Dr. Wil Srubar, Assistant Professor of Architectural Engineering and Materials Science at the University of Colorado Boulder, Technical Director of Materials R&D at Katerra, and Cochair of the Carbon Leadership Forum Network and serves as its global hub director.
We talk about trends in architecture and materials science and try to ferret out what might be coming down the pike, particularly in light of the article Wil wrote in The Conversation, "Buildings grown by bacteria—new research is finding ways to turn cells into mini-factories for materials".
A Field Guide to American Houses (Revised): The Definitive Guide to Identifying and Understanding America's Domestic Architectureby Virginia Savage McAlester
Wil's CU profile
Akira
Dr. Kate Simonen's RCC episode
Andrew Himes' RCC episode
Chris Magwood and Jacob Deva Racusin's RCC episode
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The tragedy of the commons suggests that, left to our own devices, we will overuse and overconsume our shared resources in the name of self-interest. And that either privatization or state control is required to keep us in check. But Elinor Ostrom advanced a third option, a polycentric governance approach in which the people involved solve the problem on their own through a commons solution.
Dr. Nick Cowen is a lecturer in the School of Social and Political Sciences at the University of Lincoln and the author of the paper, ‘Cost and Choice in the Commons: Ostrom and the Case of British Flood Management’. Today, Nick joins Ross to discuss the differences among state, market, and commons solutions to the environmental problems we face. He explains how Ostrom’s work changed the way we think about the tragedy of the commons and walks us through several examples of communal solutions that preserve shared resources.
Nick goes on to introduce the concepts of residual-claimancy and the transitional gains trap, describing how government intervention in flood management followed by a period of privatization led to the current dilemma in Great Britain. Listen in for insight around how Ostrom’s communal systems might appeal to both conservative and liberal politics and learn how we can apply her interdisciplinary ideas to protect our shared resources.
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‘Cost and Choice in the Commons: Ostrom and the Case of British Flood Management’ by Nick Cowen
Elinor Ostrom
Ostrom’s Workshop Method
Ostrom’s Google Scholar Page
Ostrom’s Nobel Prize Lecture
Books by James C. Scott
Ludwig Von Mises’ Insights on Intervention
‘The Transitional Gains Trap’ by Gordon Tullock
Dr. Bryan Caplan on RCC S2EP2
Karen Bradshaw
Bryan Leonard
Friedrich August Hayek
Ilia Murtazashvili
Kate Raworth
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We tend to think of climate change as a problem in and of itself. But what if the climate crisis is a symptom of a bigger issue? What if we can’t solve climate change without social justice?
Meteorologist Eric Holthaus is the climate correspondent for The Correspondent and author of The Future Earth: A Radical Vision for What’s Possible in the Age of Warming. Today, Eric joins Ross to explain how climate change is a symptom of broader societal inequalities and discuss the role ownership has played in causing the climate crisis. He shares his vision for a cooperative political and economic system based on distributed production that supports the ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all.
Eric goes on to explore the complexity of our connections with the each other and advocate for a system of ethics that promotes care work and prevents overconsumption by a privileged few. Listen in for Eric’s insight around what the pandemic has taught us about the potential for a radically different life and learn how actively reducing inequality is the first step in solving climate change—once and for all.
Key Takeaways
[1:16] The themes Eric presents in The Future Earth
- Combination of urgency + optimism (picture of what fighting FOR)
- Climate change provides chance to fix other structural problems
[5:20] How quickly ‘radical solutions’ have become mainstream
- Demonstrated in numbers published by Data for Progress
- Example—100% renewable energy seemed out of reach
[7:26] The relationship between climate and justice
- Climate change = symptom of broader inequalities + injustice
- Perspective lends to expanded list of solutions (e.g.: care work)
[8:08] The role ownership has played in causing climate change
- Idea of private property consolidated wealth to few
- Overconsumption by those who control resources
- Can only survive by caring for each other and our home
- Must become stewards of objects, own as community
[17:41] Eric’s vision for our future economic and political systems
- Yet to be invented, drawn out of ecologically focused world
- Can’t survive in competitive economic system on finite planet
- Believe life, liberty and pursuit of happiness possible for all
[21:35] The concept of distributed production
- Democratize everything for broader societal goal of cooperation
- Example of libraries as community resource anyone can use
[27:58] Eric’s take on toxic masculinity and care work
- Must understand complexity of relationship to world
- Develop skills in asking for help, admitting when wrong
[32:08] How Eric thinks about energy efficiency and overconsumption
- Break addiction to overconsumption with focus on reducing inequality
- Wealth tax provides universal access to housing, food and water
[37:18] The potential for us to lead radically different lives
- Demonstrated by Coronavirus pandemic
- Reframe what is and is not necessary (e.g.: air travel)
- Rebuild purpose of society in zero carbon context
[40:47] Eric’s insight on travel and the auto industry in the US
- Bike networks in Amsterdam don’t interface with roads at all
- Surface areas of cities 30% to 40% car infrastructure
- Highways built to boost economy but destroy neighborhoods
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Young people on BOTH sides of the aisle want to see action on climate change. And Quillan Robinson believes that the will for action is a more powerful force than the disagreements we may have over policy. So, how does a conservative approach like the American Climate Contract differ from the progressive Green New Deal? And how do the principles of conservatism inform right-of-center climate solutions?
Quill is the Vice President of Government Affairs with the American Conservation Coalition, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering young conservatives to reengage in environmental conversations. Today, Quill joins Ross to explain how his involvement in the I-732 campaign in Washington shaped his thinking and shifted his politics. He introduces us to the conservative thinkers who inspire him, walking us through the best principles of the conservative intellectual tradition and how they apply to climate policy.
Quill goes on to discuss why oikophilia (love of place) is not exclusive to rural contexts and offer his take on Hamiltonian versus Jeffersonian economic models. Listen in for Quill’s insight on the three main approaches to climate policy at work in DC and learn what differentiates ACC’s American Climate Contract from the other federal climate policy solutions.
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- American Conservation Coalition
- American Climate Contract
- Quill on Twitter
- Green Philosophy: How to Think Seriously About the Planet by Roger Scruton
- Conservatism: An Invitation to the Great Tradition by Roger Scruton
- Citizens’ Climate Lobby’s Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act & Congressional cosponsors of the bill
- Benji Backer on RCC EP074
- Greg Rock on RCC EP036
- Kyle Murphy on RCC EP056
- Carbon Washington
- Initiative 732
- Arthur Brooks at the American Enterprise Institute
- Paul Kingsnorth & The Dark Mountain Project
- Robert Nisbet
- The Conservative Heart: How to Build a Fairer, Happier, and More Prosperous America by Arthur C. Brooks
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The political process is complex and difficult to follow, no matter how deeply we care about climate policy. And yet, without federal clean electricity standards, energy companies are unlikely to change their behavior. So, what does good environmental policy look like? And what can we do as individuals to advocate for laws that reverse climate change?
Dr. Leah C. Stokes is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Political Science at UC Santa Barbara and the author of Short Circuiting Policy: Interest Groups and the Battle Over Clean Energy and Climate Policy in the American States. Today, Leah joins Ross to discuss what makes for good environmental policy and why we need federal clean electricity standards. She weighs in on how public utilities abuse the political system, introducing us to the idea of intervener compensation programs as the most promising way to advocate for the public interest.
Leah goes on to share her criticism of Planet of the Humans, describing the film’s failure to address the nuances of life cycle analysis or the fossil fuel industry’s role in the climate crisis and explaining how the film’s thesis is out of alignment with the Michael Moore’s supposed progressive politics. Listen in as Leah shares a case study of climate policy in the state of Ohio and learn what you can do to let lawmakers know that you care about climate change.
Resources:
- Leah’s Website
- Leah on Twitter
- Short Circuiting Policy: Interest Groups and the Battle Over Clean Energy and Climate Policy in the American States by Leah Cardamore Stokes
- Leah’s Vox Article on Planet of the Humans
- Leah’s Piece on Ohio Energy Policy in The Guardian
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Concrete is an incredibly useful and highly resilient building material. And with population growth and urbanization, we are on pace to double everything we’ve ever built in the next 40 years. At the same time, concrete production accounts for as much as 8% of global emissions. So, how can we continue to reap the benefits of concrete in a way that complies with our climate goals?
Robert Niven is the Founder and CEO of CarbonCure, a company that recycles waste carbon dioxide to make stronger and greener concrete. They are also one of the four companies chosen by Stripe for its first negative emissions purchases. Today, Rob joins Ross and Christophe to explain how concrete is traditionally produced and what CarbonCure does differently to permanently mineralize carbon in concrete, both improving its quality and reducing its carbon footprint.
Rob weighs in on embodied carbon, sharing the benefits of CarbonCure’s solution in terms of scalability and cost, and discusses the potential for his process to eventually use direct air capture as a source of CO2. Listen in as Rob introduces us to his audacious goal of reducing emissions by 500 megatons per year and learn how we can accelerate the change with procurement policy and carbon offsets.
Resources
CarbonCure
CarbonCure on LinkedIn
CarbonCure on Twitter
Stripe’s Negative Emissions Commitment
Stripe’s First Negative Emissions Purchases
CarbonCure’s Cake Analogy Video
Carbon Leadership Forum
Bill Gates’ Resources on Climate & Energy
CLF’s EC3 Tool Methodology
Breakthrough Energy Ventures
Hawaii’s Concrete Procurement Policy
CarbonCure’s Partnership with HC&D in Honolulu
Elemental Excelerator
Buy Clean California Act
New York Assembly Bill 8617
Carbon XPRIZE
Emissions Reduction Alberta’s Grand Carbon Challenge
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Emily Atkin's June 1st issue of HEATED caught our attention with the headline "The climate movement's silence" regarding the Black Lives Matter protests taking place all over the United States and the lack of a substantial response from climate organizations. One of the long-running debates that shows up on the podcast is "to what degree should climate change policy be focused exclusively on decarbonization and drawdown vs. a more comprehensive suite of related issues?" On the one hand, ostensibly there is less room for disagreement when policy is unbundled. On the other hand, big change may be possible within moments like this and it seems myopic at best to focus only on the former and ignoring ongoing harms or negligence. What is an organization to do? Here's a beginning to that conversation, with more programming on the topic to come.
Mellina White, who has been moonlighting as a Norinaut, wrote the article, "Attention white people: Your #BLM memes are not enough", that inspired this conversation.
Mellina White's Twitter
The Seattle Conservative
Campaign Zero
The Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces by Radley Balko
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What is the best approach to solving the climate crisis? Should we leverage science and technology to ‘produce’ our way out of the problem? Or aspire to live in Hobbiton and radically reduce our human footprint?
Charles C. Mann is the New York Times bestselling author behind 1491, 1493 and The Wizard and the Prophet and a regular correspondent for The Atlantic, WIRED and Science Magazine. Today, Charles joins Ross to discuss the two major schools of thought he identified in the environmental movement—wizards and prophets—and introduce us to the scientists he uses to represent each camp in his book.
Charles walks us through the fundamental differences between the two groups, describing their values, blind spots and radically different ways of seeing the world. Listen in for Charles’ insight on a third school of thought that dismisses both wizards and prophets and find out where he falls on the wizard-prophet spectrum in light of the current global health crisis.
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1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus
1493: Uncovering the New World Columbus Created
The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow’s World
Charles on Twitter
Norman Borlaug
Road to Survival by William Vogt
Jared Diamond
Naomi Klein
Paul Ehrlich
Bill McKibben
Ted Nordhaus
Hans Rosling
Jesse Ausubel
Ramez Naam
Emma Marris
Planet of the Humans
Nathaneal Johnson in Grist
‘The Call of Cthulhu’ by H.P. Lovecraft
Dr. Vandana Shiva
Adam Smith’s Parable of the Poor Man’s Son
Lynn Margulis
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Dr. Elizabeth Segran is a Senior Staff Writer at Fast Company. Today, Liz joins Ross and guest host Lorraine Smith to discuss how fashion works, explaining how the industry has evolved over the last 150 years to a system in which clothes are disposable. She explores the environmental cost of fast fashion, describing the dangers of using synthetic material and the tremendous waste associated with producing inventory well beyond what consumers are likely to buy.
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Evan Hynes is the founder of Climate.Careers, a job site dedicated to helping talented jobseekers find high-impact, high-paying jobs at organizations working to address climate change. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Evan joins Ross to discuss why he built the Climate.Careers platform, explain what qualifies a job to be listed on the site, and how a listener might be able to land a job in climatetech.
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Koen van Seijen is the host of the Investing in Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, where he talks to pioneers in the regenerative food and agriculture space about putting money to work to regenerate the soil. Today, Koen joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the many different flavors of financing for regenerative agriculture and explain the distinction between investing in regenerative agriculture and what is sometimes called "regenerative financing" which innovates in terms of deal structure and beyond.
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Kate Knibbs is a Senior Writer at WIRED covering culture, and is the author of ‘The Hottest New Literary Genre is Doomer Lit.’ Today, Kate joins Ross to explain what inspired her conception of the new (sub)genre, discussing what differentiates doomer lit from cli-fi and how Jenny Offill’s new novel Weather functions as a mood piece on climate change.
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Phoebe Yu and Kat Dey are the cofounders of ettitude, a sustainable lifestyle brand that uses CleanBamboo fabric to produce bedding, bath, and sleepwear. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, they join Ross to walk us through the process ettitude uses to turn bamboo into fabric, sharing the benefits of using bamboo as a raw material in terms of carbon capture and storage.
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John Elkington is an internationally recognized authority on corporate responsibility and sustainable development, bestselling author, and serial entrepreneur. He currently serves as Chief Pollinator at Volans, a future-focused business working at the intersection of the sustainability, entrepreneurship, and innovation movements. Today, John joins Ross and Paul to discuss his most recent book, Green Swans: The Coming Boom in Regenerative Capitalism.
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Dr. David Grinspoon is the author of Earth in Human Hands: Shaping Our Planet’s Future. He is also part of the team working with NASA on a proposed mission to Venus! On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, David is back on the show with Ross to discuss the basic units of the geological time scale and explain why he proposes calling this new time marked by human impact and self-awareness the Sapiezoic Eon rather than the Anthropocene Epoch.
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Julia Pyper and Shane Skelton are two of the three cohosts of Political Climate, a bipartisan podcast on energy and environmental politics in America. Today, Julia and Shane join Ross to discuss how their show is working to normalize the conversation on climate change (on both sides of the aisle) and explore what’s behind the increasing polarization in DC and what role the media plays in perpetuating our political divisions.
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Sanchali Pal is the Founder and CEO of Joro, an app designed to mobilize climate action. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Sanchali joins Ross and Alexsandra to explain how Joro allows users to track their carbon footprint (by way of credit card data) and take collective action to reduce emissions through behavior change, and how Nori and Joro are working together.
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J. Maarten Troost is the travel writer behind such titles as The Sex Lives of Cannibals, Getting Stoned with Savages and Headhunters on My Doorstep. He spent multiple years in Kiribati in the Equatorial Pacific as well as Fiji and Vanuatu. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change, Maarten joins Ross to explain how he came to spend time in the region of Oceania and offer insight around the provocative titles for his books and the egalitarian nature of island culture.
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Ethan Soloviev is the coauthor of Regenerative Enterprise and Levels of Regenerative Agriculture and co-owner of High Falls Farm, a multi-enterprise farm in the Hudson Valley of New York that aims toward regenerative principles and practices. On this bonus episode, Ethan joins Ross to introduce us to the Jewish idea of shmita, as well as his attempts to learn from Irish/Celtic and indigenous North American agricultural traditions as well.
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Dr. Lauren Gifford is a critical geographer exploring the intersections of global climate policy, conservation, markets, and justice. She is also the host of Carbon Social Club and the author of a recent paper entitled “‘You Can’t Value What You Can’t Measure’: A Critical Look at Forest Carbon Accounting.” On this episode, we dig into avoided deforestation credits, REDD/REDD+, and the dynamics at play when carbon is commoditized in forestry and in general.
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Dr. Greg Dipple is a Professor of Geology in the Department of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of British Columbia—Vancouver,and a podcast alumnus! On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Greg joins Ross to give us an update on his research around carbon mineralization in mine tailings, reminding us how the process works and explaining why it’s not already common practice.
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Dr. Jane Zelikova is the Chief Scientist at Carbon180, a carbon removal think tank on a mission to fundamentally rethink carbon, and cofounder of 500 Women Scientists, a nonprofit dedicated to transforming the leadership, diversity, and public engagement in science. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change, Jane joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the challenges of measuring the carbon content of soil and the projections around how much CO2 we can sequester with improved management practices.
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Maria Streshinsky is the Executive Editor of Wired, a science and technology magazine devoted to exploring technology’s potential to shape the world for the better. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Maria joins Ross to discuss the forthcoming issue of Wired, walking us through its sections on carbon capture, food and land, transportation and renewable energy.
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Dr. Roger Aines is the Chief Scientist of the Energy Program at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and coauthor of the LLNL report Getting to Neutral: Options for Negative Carbon Emissions in California. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change, Roger joins Ross and Christophe to discuss how the California study came about and walk us through the three carbon removal strategies outlined in the report—natural solutions, waste biomass and direct air capture.
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Sophia Rokhlin is the coauthor of When Plants Dream: Ayahuasca, Amazonian Shamanism and the Global Psychedelic Renaissance. She also serves as the director of the sustainable ayahuasca cultivation program at the Temple of the Way of Light, a traditional plant medicine retreat center in the Peruvian Amazon. This episode Sophia joins Ross and Alexsandra to introduce us to the traditions of shamanism and discuss the fundamentals of ayahuasca, and how ayahuasca tourism impacts indigenous communities.
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Nathaniel Rich is a writer-at-large for The New York Times Magazine and the author of three novels. His nonfiction book, Losing Earth: A Recent History, is an account of the 10-year period from 1979 to 1989 when we ‘almost stopped climate change.’ On this episode of the podcast, Nathaniel joins Ross to give us an overview of the story behind the book, explaining how climate change was a bipartisan issue at the time and what eventually moved Republicans into a much more hostile posture.
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David Roberts is a staff writer for Vox, and his work focuses on energy, politics and climate change. On this episode of the podcast, David joins Ross and Aldyen to share his take on the disappearance of the center-right as a faction of the Republican Party and discuss the role social trust plays in the health of a society. Aldyen introduces the idea of a common goal as key to the survival of an empire, and David explains why climate change is unlikely to serve as our national purpose here in the US.
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Daniel Palken is a Conservative Outreach Fellow for Citizens’ Climate Lobby (CCL), an organization working to build support in Congress for a national bipartisan solution to climate change. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Daniel joins Ross to explain what drew him to work with the organization and discuss their recent Conservative Climate Lobby Day for climate advocates right of center.
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Dr. Bryan Caplan is a Professor of Economics at George Mason University and New York Times Bestselling author. His most recent release is a collaboration with Zach Weinersmith called Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Bryan joins Ross and Paul to discuss the thesis of his new nonfiction graphic novel and explain his view that open borders would ultimately double the productivity of humankind.
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Michael Leggett is Nori’s Director of Product, Jacob Farny is the team’s Principal Product Designer, Jaycen Horton serves as the Principal Blockchain Architect, and Software Developer Richie “never writes code with bugs" Farman. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, the Nori product team joins Ross for a product update, walking us through what they’ve been working on and how their priorities have shifted since last summer.
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Jigar Shah is the Cofounder and President of Generate Capital, a financial services firm dedicated to building the infrastructure necessary to deliver affordable and reliable resource solutions. A luminary in the realm of financing renewable energy, Jigar is also the author of Creating Climate Wealth: Unlocking the Impact Economy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jigar joins Ross and Christophe to discuss his mission to help entrepreneurs and companies scale up proven climate solutions.
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Peter Brannen is the award-winning science journalist and deep time aficionado behind the book, The Ends of the World. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, he comes back on the show to discuss his recently published articles in The Atlantic, ‘The Anthropocene is a Joke’ and ‘What Made Me Reconsider the Anthropocene.’ We discuss why deep time is such a foreign concept to the general public and Peter explains how the term Anthropocene has evolved to encompass all human activity.
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CarbonWA's Kyle Murphy and Greg Rock have both previously been on the show to talk about Washington state's carbon policy and their legislative attempts. Now, CarbonWA is focusing on a new approach to incentivize regenerative agriculture called the Sustainable Farms and Fields Bill, which is Senate Bill 5947. In this Reversing Climate Change bonus episode, CarbonWA's Sustainable Farms Campaign Manager, Noa Kay, joins the show to give us an update on their efforts and change of approach.
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Dr. Evan Kuehn is a theologian and academic librarian at North Park University, conducting research around modern religious thought. His forthcoming book is called Troeltsch’s Eschatological Absolute. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Evan joins Ross to discuss his recently published article, "Is the Climate Crisis a Secular Eschatology?", introducing us to eschatology as an account of how our world ends and explaining how climate change qualifies as a secular eschatology.
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Jimmy Jia is an author and professor at Presidio Graduate School. Jimmy was on the show over a year ago talking about his work in cleantech, and applying the insights of thermodynamics to business and beyond.
We welcome Jimmy back to the Reversing Climate Change podcast for a short bonus episode on his new book, The Corporate Energy Strategist's Handbook: Frameworks to Achieve Environmental Sustainability and Competitive Advantage. You can preorder the book on Amazon. It comes out March 11th, 2020.
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Jeffrey Howard is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief at Erraticus, an online publication focused on human flourishing. On this episode, Jeffrey joins Alexsandra and Ross to discuss the ideas in Deneen’s book and compare how communitarians and liberals see the world.
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Danielle Doggett is the Executive Director of SAILCARGO, a carbon-neutral shipping company in the process of building the world’s largest emission-free cargo ship, Ceiba. The team uses high-quality wood and old-world shipbuilding techniques with the goal of transporting artisanal products from Central America to the US and Canada. In this episode, Danielle joins Alexsandra and Ross to discuss how Ceiba will be powered by wind energy and explain how it compares to traditional ships.
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Darrell Bricker is the coauthor of Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline, a book exploring how a shrinking population might reshape the social, political, environmental and economic landscape. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change, Darrell joins Alexsandra and Ross to discuss how his understanding of population trends differs from conventional wisdom and explain why the UN numbers around global fertility rates are wrong.
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Diego Saez Gil is the Cofounder and CEO of Pachama, a startup developing the technologies to bring trust, transparency and efficiency to the forest carbon market. His team leverages machine learning to accelerate the validation of carbon captured in reforestation and forest conservation projects. On this episode of the podcast, Diego joins Alexsandra, Ross and Christophe to explain how LiDAR technology works and discuss how Pachama is using it to measure carbon capture with stunning accuracy.
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Dr. Holly Jean Buck is a postdoctoral research fellow at UCLA’s Institute of the Environment and Sustainability and the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Buck joins Ross to discuss how her take on climate solutions differs from traditional left-leaning views, explaining the aspects of geoengineering that should be in the hands of the people and the risks associated with Nori’s premise of treating carbon as a commodit
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Zach Nies is the Managing Director of the Techstars Sustainability Accelerator, August Ritter serves as Program Director of The Nature Conservancy’s partnership with Techstars, and Hannah Davis is the Program Director of the Techstars Sustainability Accelerator. How does the program work and what did Nori get out of it? Listen in and see if it's a good fit for your startup.
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Allison Wolff is the Founder and CEO of Vibrant Planet, a firm that leverages the power of narrative to mobilize positive social change. She has 25 years of experience in the space, and her impressive client roster includes Google, eBay, Facebook and Netflix. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Allison joins Ross and Christophe to discuss what sparked her interest in the megafire issue and explain why the California forests are burning—and what we can do about it.
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Ted Nordhaus is the Founder and Executive Director of The Breakthrough Institute, the world’s first ecomodernist think tank promoting technological solutions to environmental problems. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ted joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the fundamentals of ecomodernism, explaining the movement’s idea of decoupling and offering his response to the degrowther argument against it.
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Nathanael Johnson is a Senior Writer at Grist and the author of All Natural: A Skeptic’s Quest to Discover If the Natural Approach to Diet, Childbirth, Healing and the Environment Really Keeps Us Healthier and Happier and Unseen City: The Majesty of Pigeons, the Discreet Charm of Snails & Other Wonders of the Urban Wilderness. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nathanael joins Ross and Christophe to discuss how his writing challenges the status quo, asking the questions that inspire real results
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Richael Young is the Cofounder and CEO of Mammoth Water, the smart market platform that delivers a smarter, simpler way to track and trade water. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Richael joins Alexsandra and Christophe to discuss the ins and outs of water markets and explain why strong governance is crucial to their success.
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At the University of Southern California, the Schwarzenegger Institute works to find common ground and post-partisan solutions to pressing problems, not least of which is climate change. They participated in the Nori Lightning Sale. Find out why carbon removals is important to their work and why they support Nori in today's bonus episode.
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Mike Smith and John Cleland are the managing partners of RenewWest, an environmental services company committed to replanting forests in areas burned by wildfire in the American West and financializing the practice through carbon offset markets. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mike and John join Ross and Christophe to share the team’s three-phase process and explain why reforestation projects are typically disfavored in traditional carbon markets.
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Hannah Birge is the Director of Water and Agriculture and Nelson Winkel is the Platte River Prairies Assistant Preserve Manager and Soil Health Specialist with The Nature Conservancy in Nebraska. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Hannah and Nelson join Ryan and Christophe to discuss the conservation practices farmers are adopting in the Great Plains and explain how The Nature Conservancy supports them with funding, technical support and labor.
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Nori has been in touch with the good folks at Volans since our early days. They've offered a lot of help as fellow travelers, not least of which was buying in the Nori Lightning Sale. Learn why they support Nori in this episode with Volans' Executive Director, Louise Kjellerup Roper.
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Bill McKibben is the author and environmentalist credited with penning the first book on climate change written for a general audience, The End of Nature. He is also a founder of 350.org, the first global, grassroots climate change movement. Bill was awarded the 2014 Right Livelihood Prize, the 2013 Gandhi Prize and the 2013 Thomas Merton Prize, and he was named to Foreign Policy magazine’s inaugural list of the world’s 100 most important global thinkers.
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Sean Keener, cofounder of BootsnAll and chairman of AirTreks, is the first buyer in the Nori Lightning Sale. In this bonus episode, Sean tells us why he chose to support Nori and purchase Carbon Removal Certificates for his businesses.
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Trey Hill of Harborview Farms has been participating in the Nori pilot for cropping soils via regenerative agriculture. The Carbon Removal Certificates now available for purchase in the Nori Lightning Sale have been generated by Trey. Catch up more with Trey on Reversing Climate Change episode #59.
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People can now buy Carbon Removal Certificates from the Nori marketplace. This is the first time this has happened and is the first step in Nori launching its full platform. Nori CEO Paul Gambill is on the show to share the news about the Nori Lightning Sale. This episode is posted on Reversing Climate Change and Carbon Removal Newsroom.
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Chris Peacock is the CEO of AQUAOSO, A Public Benefit Corporation dedicated to building a water resilient future. Chris and his team use data science and machine learning to offer meaningful insight into water data and provide advanced water risk management and mitigation tools for the agricultural economy. Farmers, brokers, appraisers, lenders and water managers use AQUAOSO tools to identify, understand, monitor and mitigate water-related risks.
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Tony Bova and Jeff Beegle are the CEO and CSO of Mobius, a mission-driven chemical company focused on eliminating waste by leveraging industrial organic waste streams to create new materials and chemicals. Today, Tony and Jeff join Alexsandra and Christophe to discuss the idea behind Mobius and explain how they are using the lignin stripped from trees by paper companies to make biodegradable plastics for agriculture.
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Sarah is the Cofounder and CEO of Geospiza, a software company that helps corporations visualize, understand and take action around climate risks. Sarah has 10-plus years of experience in emergency management and public health, and she is committed to developing data-driven, evidence-based solutions to reduce risk and enhance resilience, especially for the most vulnerable. Sarah earned her Bachelor of Social Work from the University of Georgia and her Master’s in Public Health from Tulane.
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Dr. Phil Taylor is the Cofounder and Executive Director of Mad Agriculture, a venture that aims to restore our relationship with Earth through the story, community and the practice of good agriculture. Mad Ag works on-the-ground with producers to design Regenerative Farm Plans, heal mismanaged landscapes, and help farmers and ranchers thrive—ecologically and economically.
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Eric Kornacki is the President and CEO of THRIVE Partners, an organization created to provide communities with the tools to establish healthy, resilient, inclusive and vibrant economies. He is also the former Executive Director of Re:Vision, a venture that transformed one of Denver’s most marginalized neighborhoods by cultivating community food systems and developing a place-based economy.
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Marissa, Mariana, and Paola explain how the microTERRA bioreactors turn the excess nitrogen and phosphorus in our waterways into fish food. They also describe their experiences in launching the microTERRA pilot in Mexico, discussing what they learned about leveraging every voice on the team to create a community of creative problem-solving.
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Woody Tasch is the founder of the Slow Money Institute, a nonprofit dedicated to catalyzing the flow of capital to local food systems, connecting investors to the places where they live. Today, Woody joins Ross and Christophe to discuss how he developed the idea of Slow Money and explore the reasons why we can’t seem to get our money out of the markets and do something radically different with it—especially foundations whose investments are out of alignment with their missions.
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Peter Brannen is an award-winning science journalist with expertise in ocean science, deep time, astrobiology, and the carbon cycle. Peter walks Ross and Christophe through the five major mass extinctions in Earth’s history, discussing what events triggered each extinction and how plant and animal life changed each time.
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Bob Inglis is a former Republican congressman representing South Carolina and the current Executive Director of republicEN, an EcoRight organization that supports a free market approach to climate change. Today, Bob joins Ross and Christophe to share the three-step metamorphosis that inspired his belief in climate change. He defines conservatism, discussing the link between Christianity and climate action and explaining why current conservative politics don’t reflect Christian values.
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Joshua Hughes, Sara Czarniecki and Amanda Wilson are the CEO, COO and CMO of Blacksheep, a regenerative resource management cooperative taking direct action against landbase destruction by investing in natural capital. Today, Joshua, Sarah and Amanda join Ross and Christophe to define permaculture and explain how Blacksheep began with the intention to recover that 20 acres of eroded land—and how the business has grown since then.
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Wendy Owens is the founder and CEO of Hexas Biomass, a producer and distributor of sustainable biomass that can supplement or replace wood in multiple applications. Wendy’s team is dedicated to using sun, water and land to benefit people and the planet through renewable resources. Today, she joins Ross to discuss the process of growing giant reed for use in products or to produce energy.
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Thaddeus Russell joins Ross, Christophe and Paul to explain why he takes issue with the environmental movement. He challenges the moralist approach to political problems, describing how environmentalists leverage guilt and shame individual choices—while ignoring big emitters like the US military. Thaddeus also offers an overview of the Progressive Era, discussing the historical efforts to eliminate cultural diversity in the US and sharing his take on the parallels between progressives and environmentalist
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Dr. Emma Fuller is a Lead Data Scientist with Granular, a farm management software company working to apply data science to the agriculture industry. In her role, Emma tracks consumer trends in sustainability and works with NGOs and startups to identify opportunities for Granular growers to get rewarded for their stewardship. Today, Emma joins Christophe and Michael Leggett, Director of Product at Nori, to discuss the partnership between Granular and Nori and share their pilot program’s progress to date.
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While a plastic straw ban might make us feel better, does it actually reduce consumption in the long-term? Does recycling really make a difference? As we think about waste management solutions, what questions should we be asking in terms of sustainability? What can we do to be more thoughtful about our waste and consider where our trash goes when we throw it AWAY?
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Zoya Teirstein is a climate reporter for Grist, an environment and climate change media platform based in Seattle. She walks us through several of the presidential candidates’ climate plans, covering Biden’s shifting approach, Inslee’s comprehensive policy, and Warren’s initiative to green the military.
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Today, Albert Bates joins Christophe and Alexsandra to share his unique path from the courtroom to the ecovillage, describing how he came to study terra preta soils and get involved in the biochar movement. Listen in for Albert’s insight around the waste streams that could serve as biochar source material and learn about the ecovillages and cities that serve as proof of concept for using biochar to draw carbon out of our atmosphere and oceans!
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Apoorv Sinha is the Founder and CEO of Carbon Upcycling Technologies (CUT), a Canadian cleantech startup that is turning CO2 waste into a profitable commodity. CUT’s proprietary technology manufactures CO2-enriched nanomaterials, improving the performance and value of concrete, polymers and adhesives, and energy storage products. CUT is a finalist for the Carbon XPRIZE, and Apoorv has been honored as a Clean 50 Emerging Leader.
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In the past 10 years, forest fires ravaged an average of 7M acres annually in the US. (This is up from 2.6M acres per year in the 10-year period from 1982 to 1992.) The current method of reforestation involves people with shovels, carrying 50-pound bags of one- to two-year-old trees up 60° slopes. But what if we didn’t have to wait for greenhouses to grow seedlings? What if we could plant the right biological mix of seeds as soon as the fire cools? And what if we could do it all with drones?
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Buckminster Fuller famously said that “waste materials are simply resources we haven’t found a use for.” So, what if we could use agricultural waste products like corn husks or coconut coir as building materials? The truth is that we can, and a number of innovative sustainable builders are working to not just reduce the carbon emissions associated with construction but turn homes and commercial buildings into carbon storage units.
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If you’re asked to picture an environmentalist or climate activist, what do you see? Is it a white guy with a beard who wears a Patagonia fleece and rides his bike to work? Whether you agree with the policy or not, one of the benefits of the Green New Deal lies in the fact that it ‘builds a bigger tent.’ By addressing the twin pressures of climate change and income inequality, the proposed legislation opens the conversation about climate to a wider audience.
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In our polarized political climate, we are led to believe that ALL conservatives are irrational climate deniers, and ALL liberals are dead set on a large-scale policy solution that will shut down the American economy. But if you turn off the TV and close your social media tabs, you might discover that Democrats and Republicans actually agree on a lot more than we think. So, how do we get both parties to the table to talk about climate solutions?
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A significant amount of carbon has been stored in Arctic permafrost for tens of thousands of years. And unless we take radical steps to restore the ecosystem that we destroyed there, the permafrost will melt and release 1400 GT of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere. This dwarfs the amount humans generate annually and would accelerate climate change on an exponential scale. So, what can we do to reestablish the grasslands and reintroduce the animals that used to dominate the region?
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Today, Joel joins Ross and Christophe to share his practice of duplicating nature’s patterns on the farmscape. He offers his take on the flaws in the environmentalist approach to climate change and where the Christian faith community, libertarians, and economists fall short. Joel also describes how the regulatory environment is prejudiced against small-scale operations, exploring the way oversight stifles innovation.
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Mass-produced clothing generates 37 tons of CO2 for every ton of fast fashion, making it the second dirtiest industry in the world. But there is a better way. A way to produce clothes locally with natural fibers grown in regenerative ways. A way that is at least carbon neutral, if not carbon beneficial. And that method of hyperlocal textile manufacturing is facilitated by fibersheds.
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You’ve got to crawl before you walk. The Nori team aims to have their carbon removal marketplace up and running this year, and to that end, they are currently running a pilot program with a handful of farmers and ranchers in the US. So, what does the process look like? What is their progress on the software product to date? What milestones has the team reached—and what are their next steps?
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Today, Andrea joins Ross and Christophe to explain why Juliana v. US qualifies as a constitutional law case, sharing the progress of the case to date and discussing how it provides a framework for decarbonization. She describes the nuances of the government’s duty to protect its citizens and counters the argument that the government didn’t know its energy policy contributed to climate change.
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The US is the Saudi Arabia of garbage. And Illinois Clean Fuels is working to use our surplus of municipal waste as its primary input, turning trash into biofuel. This solves two problems at once, providing a sustainable source of energy through a process that captures and stores CO2 underground. So, how does it work?
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Helene and Raoul Costa de Beauregard are the leaders of the campaign for the creation of a Climate Nobel Prize. They believe that climate actions should be ‘supported and rewarded with the highest distinction.’ Helene served in the Ministry of Ecology for the French government from 2009 to 2013 before Raoul’s role with Amazon brought the couple to Seattle six years ago. She is also the founder of GarageHop, an app designed to reduce the emissions generated looking for parking.
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The Pacific Northwest boasts several world-class research institutions, making the region a hub for cleantech R&D. But how do you move from the lab to the marketplace, building a business around your new innovation? What government programs are available to help your startup gain traction early on? And what industry associations offer programs for entrepreneurs and advocate for cleantech companies large and small?
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Climate data is overwhelming. And being inundated with numbers can make you feel disconnected or even hopeless, especially if you’re not a mathematician or a scientist. So, how can we help people connect with important data sets like the Keeling Curve or the satellite record of Arctic Sea ice? Is there a way to transform the data into art, giving people a new way to talk about climate change?
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“We’ve got to nurture the land, nurture ourselves and nurture each other. That’s really what being human is about, and if we can get into that essence then we might have a future on the planet.”
Healthy soil is key in restoring biodiversity, protecting against pests and disease, and improving water use and photosynthetic efficiency. Healthy soil supports healthy animals and healthy humans. And healthy soil sequesters carbon from the atmosphere, effectively reversing climate change.
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Our current agricultural systems produce food with little nutritional value. And even the products labeled organic are not necessarily more nutrient dense. We assume that every carrot is as healthy as the next, but in truth, there is enormous variation and our existing standards assess process—not quality. So, is there a reliable way to determine the nutritional value of a particular food? To compare one carrot with another and make an informed decision on what to buy?
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To maintain annual agriculture, we wipe out perennial vegetation and effectively destroy everything on the landscape in order to plant crops every year. The negative consequences of this ecological disaster include soil erosion, loss of organic matter, and loss of nutrients. What if we shifted to a perennial crop system that regrows from year to year without having to be reseeded? And what impact would perennialization have on reversing climate change?
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The processes of building material extraction, manufacturing, transportation and construction are ALL responsible for carbon emissions. So, how do you compare these embodied costs to make the best choices around which materials to use? How do you know whether it’s better for the environment to retrofit an existing building or build a new, passive one? How do you determine whether a building truly qualifies as zero-carbon? The primary tool we use to measure environmental impact is the life cycle assessment
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The need for energy innovation has never been more urgent. To effectively reduce climate change, we need to implement new technologies at scale quickly. Yet, the politics and regulations that dictate the energy industry make it incredibly difficult to put new ideas into practice. Despite the challenges around change, the use of solar energy continues to grow as production becomes more and more affordable. So, how do we navigate public policy while brilliant ideas can take a decade to adopt on a large scale?
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No-till agriculture promotes soil health and sequesters carbon, so why isn’t everybody doing it? The practical reality is that farmers are limited by their infrastructure and financial obligations. Making a change is not always profitable and often means fighting against a father who’s mastered the conventional system. To facilitate large-scale change, we need a market that allows farmers to get paid for growing crops unconventionally.
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We typically think of value and ROI in monetary terms, but what about the social value of an investment? Or its environmental return? The field of ecological economics is built around the idea that the health of our land serves as the foundation of our economy, and we know that assigning a monetary value to ecosystem services helps us to be better stewards to these resources. So, how do we put carbon sequestration on the balance sheet?
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Sustainable energy is a wicked problem. As we solve one aspect of the challenge, others arise—and the very definition of the problem evolves over time. Yet admitting uncertainty is unpopular. No one is holding a picket sign that reads, “It depends on a number of factors that are mutually interdependent.” So, what should we be thinking about as we work toward a sustainable energy future?
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About 65% of Washington voters support action on climate change. But after six years of working to pass legislation for a carbon tax, the state has yet to put a price on emissions. How do political divisions make the mission so challenging? What alternative solutions are advocates exploring? And how might the Nori marketplace fit into a broader policy framework?
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To make Nori work, the data of carbon removal must be somehow transferred from a model like COMET-Farm to the blockchain—and that is precisely the infrastructure that Jaycen Horton is building at Nori. So, how does communication between the software work, exactly? Why did Nori choose to build on the Ethereum blockchain? And what is the benefit of building in an open-source community?
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Nori has ambitious plans to reverse climate change by using the blockchain to pay the people who draw down CO2 from the atmosphere. And the team is in the process of building the infrastructure necessary to make that happen. But how do they go about talking farmers, for example, into using the platform? How do they convince companies to buy CRCs? How do they make the business case for carbon removal?
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With the Industrial Revolution and the development of a mechanistic mindset, we have come to view ourselves as entities separate from the earth. This attitude has led to industrial farming practices that destroy the land and an industrial food complex that strips the nutrients from the foods we consume. What if we adopted—on a large scale—the regenerative agricultural practices that produce nutrient-rich foods, restore the soil, and remove carbon from the atmosphere?
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“The man who says it can’t be done should get out of the way of the woman who’s doing it. We focus all the time on politicians and what they’re going to do. Meanwhile, we’re becoming more energy efficient every day. We’re using fewer resources every day. We’re finding a way to do more with less, quietly, every day. But [the free market is] where the solutions are coming from.”
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How do you talk to leaders in Washington DC about the climate challenge? Is there a way to frame the risk that will inspire policymakers on both sides of the aisle to take action? How might a carbon tax work—and would that be preferable to a regulatory approach?
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America’s farms are disappearing at an unsustainable rate of 1.5 million acres per year. Yes, this has implications in terms of food production, but it also impacts our ability to deal with climate change. Through conservation practices and regenerative innovation, agricultural lands have the potential to sequester a great deal of carbon in the soil—and that can’t happen if development continues to erase our farms and ranches. So, how do we promote agriculture as a natural climate solution?
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The business of the future is a good cooperator, working with other players in a particular space to drive progress. Collaboration is a core part of the ethos at Propagate Ventures as their team looks to leverage agroforestry to contribute to the growing pool of climate solutions and help build a world where people live in a symbiotic relationship with the ecosystem.
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Stories connect. And if we want to motivate people to engage in climate advocacy, authentic communication is key. Risalat Khan believes in the power of people to inspire each other, realize the urgency and join the global civic movement to reverse climate change. But for climate activism to facilitate real transformation, we must reach more and more people in a story-driven way and leverage public momentum to influence policy.
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Like it or not, humans have become the dominant agent of change on the planet, and as we proceed further into the Anthropocene period, we have a responsibility to accept responsibility and find a way to gracefully integrate our presence. But what if we are not the only ones who have experienced this phenomenon? What if the process of inadvertent planetary change is universal? What if the climate challenges we face are a natural part of planetary evolution?
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Historically, civilizations collapse when there are high levels of inequality and depleted resources. Hunter Lovins argues that we either solve the climate crisis now, or we lose everything we care about. But the good news is, we CAN build an economy in service to life, one that reverses climate change—at a profit.
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Corporations are not obligated to contribute to nonprofit organizations. But what if serving the underserved would drive sales? What if addressing the most pressing social issues would improve profits? What if making the world a better place would increase share price? Paul Polizzotto has demonstrated that social impact does, indeed, drive business value, and he is on a mission to transform commerce and afford resources to our most urgent social issues.
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We can learn a lot if we listen to the trees—and pay attention to the party going on underneath! Nature has much to say about how to realign our industrial value chains, embrace biodiversity, and maintain soil microbiology. The question is, are we smart enough to listen and move toward a regenerative economy?
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When Anne Biklé started rehabilitating her Seattle backyard to plant a garden, she didn’t anticipate the return of carbon to the soil. She invited a soil scientist from UW to compare samples from the original dirt with samples from the Eco-Lawn, perennial beds, and vegetable bed. The Eco-Lawn had 5% more carbon than the baseline, the perennial beds had 8% more, and the vegetable bed had 12% more carbon. What if farmers applied these ideas at scale?
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If you’re a technologist or designer who happens to be passionate about reversing climate change, what do you do? Join an advocacy group? Donate to a nonprofit organization? Write your congressperson? What if you could leverage your skill set and play an active role in reducing the amount of CO2in the atmosphere?
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To date, the environmental movement has relied on fear and shame to persuade people to change their behavior. The problem is, guilt is not a lasting motivator. What if we used a different approach and incentivized positive action instead? What if people were rewarded for pursuits that benefit the climate AND humanity?
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Today, Jon sits down with Ross, Christophe, and Paul to share the idea behind Starfish Mission and explain his interest in both blockchain technology and ecological projects. He discusses his vision for a regenerative economy that functions appropriately rather than dumping an expense (e.g. nuclear waste disposal) on the rest of us. Jon offers insight around the potential to regenerate and flip land, the restrictions on silvopasture in the US, and the need for inclusion in the blockchain/ecology movement.
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Today, Peter joins Ross, Christophe and Paul to share his goal to reduce carbon in the atmosphere to 300 parts per million by 2050. Peter discusses his favorite methods of CO2 removal, permanent sequestration in limestone and ocean fertilization. He also shares the cutting-edge techniques for restoring the Arctic and the relative cost of those tactics. Listen in to understand the moral imperative around reversing climate change and get Peter’s take on overcoming the partisan divide around the issue.
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We know that Nori is on a mission to reverse climate change by building a platform that pays people to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. But how exactly will the token economics of that platform work? Why is Nori creating its own cryptocurrency separate from its carbon removal certificates? And how can we get involved and invest in Nori?
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What if we could have our meat and eat it too? The current system of meat production in feed lots is devastating for the environment, but there is a better way. A way that would restore our grasslands and reduce the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. This method is known as holistic grazing.
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When presented with solutions to a problem that conflict with our ideology, it is human nature to deny the existence of the problem. Thus, climate change solutions that involve regulation or ‘big government’ result in climate denial from right-leaning groups. How can we create solutions that provide conservatives with an economic win? How can we change the psyche of red districts by rewarding them for behavior that reverses climate change?
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Knowledge is the only truly infinite resource, and its value multiplies by the number of people who put it to work. How can we put what we know about climate change to work and develop sustainable innovations that either reduce emissions or capture carbon from the atmosphere? And what role might Nori play in accelerating that innovation?
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Marsupials in Tasmania can get everything they need from the rainforest without destroying it. So, why can’t humans do the same? Brian Von Herzen wants to apply this idea to the ocean and restore the sea life wiped out by climate change via marine permaculture. The way he sees it, if we take care of nature, nature will take care of us.
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A big part of public interest in the blockchain can be attributed to a desire to reclaim our digital identities and reintroduce privacy to our online lives. But cryptocurrency remains vulnerable to hackers and cyberattacks. What can we do at the consumer level to protect ourselves from scams and keep our digital assets safe?
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The State of Washington is a clear leader in technology innovation and carbon-free energy, so it is fitting the Nori chose Seattle for its headquarters. To learn more about the state’s leadership in the climate change space and cryptocurrency regulations, we are speaking with Joseph Williams and Brian Young with the Washington State Department of Commerce. Joseph serves as Governor Inslee’s ICT Industry Sector Lead, while Brian works as the Sector Lead on clean energy technology.
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If we don’t learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. Yet when it comes to reducing carbon in the atmosphere, the current solutions fail to recognize what has worked in the past. So, what can we learn from the pollution reduction success stories in our history? What can those successes tell us about the shortcomings of existing strategies like cap-and-trade and carbon taxes? Why do our current methods of carbon pricing fail so spectacularly?
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Alex Ortiz believes that technology should be used as a tool to teach, to heal, and to create personal freedom—in short, it should be used for good to make the world a better place. He has spent the last 11 months doing a deep dive into the blockchain space, working to build a community that can learn together and develop use cases for the technology that will improve our lives. So, what exactly is the blockchain? And how might it be used to incentivize positive behavior change?
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The team at Nori has spent the last several months traveling the world, attending conferences around regenerative farming, agricultural technology, and the soil health movement. And the overarching theme among stakeholders has been the need for a price on carbon. How is Nori working to deliver just that? What methodologies is the platform using to measure and verify carbon removal in soil? And how does the system work to pay farmers for regenerative practices?
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John Elkington is most comfortable when he is least comfortable, most engaged when he is making it up as he goes along. A pioneer in working with businesses toward sustainable development, John has been a proponent of the triple bottom line for 40-plus years, making both his corporate clients and other environmentalists uncomfortable and earning a reputation as the ‘grit in the corporate oyster.’
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Mark Stevenson is a self-proclaimed ‘reluctant futurist’ and author of the bestsellers An Optimist’s Tour of the Future and We Do Things Differently. One of the world’s most respected thinkers, Mark supports a diverse mix of clients including government agencies, NGOs, corporations and arts organizations in becoming future literate and adapting their cultures and strategy to face questions around climate change and gender inequality, among other issues.
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What if we could develop a currency backed by the living health of ecosystems? A sort of ‘life currency’ with a robust verification system that would incentivize practices that promote ecological health? What if we could use technology to regain the capacity to understand the consequences of our day-to-day decisions and act for the health of planet Earth? And what would it take to build this infrastructure—a kind of Subway to Regeneration?
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Today, Keith sits down with Ross and Christophe to share his path to the study of soil carbon sequestration. Keith explains what happens when we convert land for agriculture and what we can do to recover the lost carbon inventory. He offers insight into COMET-Farm, discussing how the tool’s models quantify changes in soil carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.
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One of the tenets at Nori is Find, Don’t Whine. Rather than complaining about the complexity of reversing climate change, the startup believes in actively seeking out solutions. At the end of April, we took steps to engage a diverse group of stakeholders through the Reversapalooza Summit, inviting academics, influencers, policy-makers, potential carbon removal certificate suppliers and buyers to come together and initiate a conversation around incentivizing carbon removal by way of the blockchain.
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Today, Klaus joins Ross, Christophe and Paul to offer his feedback on the Nori whitepaper. Klaus explains why he likes the idea of breaking the carbon offset model and offering compensation based on actual carbon removed. He also shares his concerns around Nori’s customers, the verification challenges they face, and the issue of permanency.
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The construction industry will never reach carbon zero. And while we have made great strides in the way of operational emissions, we have only begun to think about reducing the embodied carbon emissions associated with the manufacturing, transport and construction of the necessary building materials. In most cases, it takes 250 years of operation to match the emissions related to the building process itself. So how do we reduce embodied carbon emissions as much as possible—and responsibly offset the rest?
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Today, Joe sits down with Ross, Christophe and Paul to explain how seasteading facilitates innovation and Blue Frontiers’ role in establishing such floating islands. Joe discusses the benefits of seasteading for coastal and island nations impacted by climate change and Buckminster Fuller’s concept of pollution as ‘resources we’re not using.’ They talk about what’s next for Blue Frontiers, including its upcoming token ICO and the SeaZones project.
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Initiatives designed to reverse climate change generally lack funding. Yet there are investors with large pools of money who are increasingly interested in the space. How do we bridge that gap and promote impact investing? How do we support regenerative agriculture projects that will restore the soil and reduce the amount of carbon in our atmosphere?
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Today, Amanda sits down with Ross and Christophe to share the vision of the Buckminster Fuller Institute and its namesake’s legacy as an early environmentalist, humanitarian, and techno-optimist with a global vision of the future. They discuss how Nori fits into that vision as part of the ‘design science revolution’ and how the transparency of the blockchain aligns with Fuller’s ideas.
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Reversing climate change goes beyond the math and science of reducing the greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. It’s also about economic justice, social equity, and increasing the standard of living for all people across the planet. That’s the beauty of the approach presented in Drawdown. Not only does the suite of solutions tackle climate change, its co-benefits uncover a path forward that addresses human rights and ‘raises the boat’ for all people.
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Carbon is not bad, in and of itself. The problem is that it’s currently in the wrong place. The Center for Carbon Removal (CCR) is on a mission to accelerate the development of scalable, sustainable, economically-viable carbon removal solutions that capture excess carbon from the atmosphere and put it back where it belongs—in soil, building materials and underground geologic formations. The Center is founded on the belief that we can enjoy a prosperous economy AND a safe environment at the same time.
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Dr. Friedmann joins Ross and Christophe to define his role as a carbon wrangler and why it’s important, walking us through the current climate math and sharing his insight on reframing carbon in the atmosphere as a resource to be mined. They discuss the best approach to inspiring progress around climate change, the fundamentals of carbon capture and storage, and the differences among offsets, onsets and insets.
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Economics isn’t all about money. It’s about human action, decisions and choices. In fact, economists and environmentalists could be natural allies in solving climate change. Unfortunately, a good number of environmentalists take a hardline stance on geoengineering, arguing that any further human manipulation of the environment is a bad idea. But with CO2 levels reaching more than 400 PPM, mitigation alone will not solve our problem. So how would an economist approach climate change?
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Mark Herrema is the Co-Founder and CEO of Newlight Technologies, an advanced biotechnology company using carbon capture to produce high-performance polymers that replace oil-based materials. Newlight was founded on the idea that carbon could be used as a resource, and today it operates the world’s first commercial-scale greenhouse gas-to-AirCarbon manufacturing facilities, producing bioplastics used in furniture, electronics, packaging and a range of other products.
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In the beginning… Paul and Christophe realized that the blockchain provides an ideal platform for a carbon marketplace where people can get paid to remove CO2 from the atmosphere—and ultimately succeed in reversing climate change. It took more than six days, but they eventually put together a team, developed a business plan, and Nori was born.
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Today David joins Ross and Christophe to explain why civilizations that degrade their soil don’t last. We discuss the troubling numbers around soil degradation and loss and the three simple farming practices that would restore our soil. David walks us through the residual benefits of regenerative farming and the factors that inhibit widespread adoption.
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Andrew Himes is a partner at Carbon Innovations, currently working with the University of Washington’s Carbon Smart Building Initiative. The project seeks to transform the built environment from an existential threat to a net carbon sink that absorbs more than a billion tons of CO2 each year by converting captured carbon into useful building products and creating market demand for carbon capture.
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Professor Dowlatabadi joins Ross and Christophe to share his frustration with the lack of evidence-based policy employed by governments as well as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change temperature targets. He offers his insight on geoengineering, explaining why he is so confident in its inevitability. We debate the ‘unobtainable goals’ of Elon Musk and compare Nori with Professor Dowlatabadi’s 2005 Offsetters program.
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When it comes to climate change, the mining industry is typically seen as a ‘bad guy,’ depleting the Earth’s natural resources and emitting CO2 in the process. So you might be astounded to learn that carbon can actually be captured and stored using the waste produced in the mining process. Indeed the potential exists for scaling up this carbon capture process to remove billions of tons of CO2 per year—simply by recycling mining waste.
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Why don’t voluntary or compliance carbon offset markets work? The numbers simply don’t add up. A lack of connection between the certificates and the physical inventory means that both parties—the seller and buyer—take credit for a reduction in emissions. And this double counting (issuing two certificates for a single credit) leads to a surplus of certificates under which the associated markets crash and burn. The good news is, the blockchain will allow us to start over and do the math correctly.
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Ross and Christophe are joined by Dr. Klaus Lackner, the director of ASU’s Center for Negative Carbon Emissions (CNCE) and professor at the School of Sustainable Engineering. The CNCE is known for advancing carbon management technologies to capture carbon dioxide directly from the air in an outdoor operating environment. Today Klaus explains how he conceived of the windmill-sized structures that could scrub CO2 from the air and how these towers prove to be a more efficient solution than planting trees.
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Today Ross and Christophe are speaking with corporate environmental attorney and blockchain enthusiast Mike Denby of Arizona Public Service, the largest power company in Arizona. APS is a vertically-integrated utility, both generating and selling power to its customers. They discuss how blockchain technology might be utilized in the energy sector and how the conservative business culture of the utility industry is likely to impact its interest in cryptocurrency.
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In a world where ideology informs decision-making and policy-makers have little understanding of what is plausible when it comes to negative emissions technology, challenging doesn’t even begin to describe the task of reversing climate change. In this top-down approach, a small number of academics, activists and politicians are making the decisions for 7.5 billion people—and spending a lot of time arguing hypotheticals rather than taking action.
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Carbon sequestration is an integral part of reversing climate change. The question becomes, where can we permanently store all of that CO2? One possibility lies in the basalt rock under the ocean floor. In fact, Earth science researchers at Columbia University have a project in the works that could scale up to capture millions of tons of carbon dioxide annually.
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Today Ross and Christophe are joined by Propagate Co-Founders Jeremy Kaufman and Ethan Steinberg to discuss the fundamentals of agroforestry and how the Propagate model works to provide farmers with capital for planting trees. They walk us through the process, explaining how an analysis of crops appropriate to the bioregion and the farmer’s goals work together to determine the specific tree crop appropriate to the project.
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Today, Ross and Christophe are joined by Sophia Mendelsohn, Head of Sustainability at JetBlue to discuss the incentive to offset carbon emissions at the personal, company, and global levels. They speak to how the industry is addressing climate change via the CORSIA deal and why limiting carbon exposure and liability makes good business sense from a financial perspective.
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On the inaugural podcast, Ross and Christophe are joined by Nori CEO Paul Gambill to discuss the concept of carbon removal and the scope of the problem presented by climate change. Paul addresses Nori's approach to reversing climate change, explaining the necessity of removing carbon from the atmosphere rather than simply reducing emissions. They also cover the basics of how Nori would use tokens to eliminate the problems presented by the current cap and trade system.
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