Under The Floorboards: Recent Episodes
Elizabeth Allen
That newsboy cap! Freddy "Boom Boom" Washington! And Lane can't hold her liquor! We are back and are talking about s3, e19 "Keg! Max!"!
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Leggings! Sound financial advice! And curly fingernails! We are back and are talking about s3, e18 "Happy Birthday, Baby"!
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Voter fraud, "That Bitch, Rona", and the black hole of time that is Stars Hollow. We are back and are talking about s3, e17 "A Tale of Poes & Fire"!
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Elizabeth forgets she spent a good amount of time already discussing the horrifying new Cats remake. Once you pop, you can't stop. And Rob has learned not to take movie recommendations from Elizabeth. We are back and are talking about s3, e16 "The Big One"!
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Picasso liked boobs. Extra breakfast. And the Nazi pope. We are back and are talking about s3, e15 "Face-Off"!
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Andy Warhol whispering. Can we deal with Lauren Graham as a blonde? And Jess has a point. We are back and are talking about s3, e14 "Swan Song"!
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Hamsters. The Council of Nicea not caring about our convenience. And Rory may be Yale-bound but doesn't understand how fax machines work. We are back and are talking about s3, e13 "Dear Emily and Richard"!
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We have a... moment... about Thelma & Louise-era Brad Pitt. We get nostalgic about Norman Lear shows (again). And Elizabeth's husband makes a guest appearance with his ode to Service Merchandise. We are back and are talking about s3, e12 "Lorelai Out of Water"!
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WE LOVE YOU MISS HANNIGAN! Gushing over Annie. Discussing corny 90s slang. And talking about how Madonna's "Express Yourself" was a feminist call-to-arms.
We are back and are talking about s3, e11 "I Solemnly Swear"!
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The importance of the perfect winged eye. The real background of Betty Boop. And Rob hates Korn.
We are back and are talking about s3, e10 "That'll Do, Pig "!
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We talk about Emma Stone's boobs, which people are on Rob's (unlaminated) list, and Elizabeth makes a horrible Dan Rather joke.
We are back and are talking about s3, e9 "A Deep-Fried Korean Thanksgiving"!
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Rob gets passionate about a CW show about teenage aliens. We talk about the about how supremely effective D.A.R.E was (sarcasm font). And Frank Lloyd Wright's butler did actually kill a bunch of people! Rob and Elizabeth are back and are talking about s3, e8 "Let the Games Begin"!
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You know Elizabeth is giddy and Rob is sad... but we've finally arrived at the long awaited, much loved DANCE MARATHON! We discuss how people feel about Dean's break up methods, Irish step-dancing, and how Shane is the true victim of this situation. Rob and Elizabeth are back and are talking about s3, e7 "They Shoot Gilmores, Don't They?"!
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Rand McNally wasn't just one person and they weren't all about maps. Quentin Tarantino feels ways about Uma Thurman's feet. And the not so Hitler-y origins of the word "Aryan". Rob and Elizabeth are back and are talking about s3, e6 "Take the Deviled Eggs"!
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Life kept us away from each other and our Girls, but WE'RE BACK! We spend alooooot of time talking about the history of HBO, Dawson's Creek's past with J.Crew, and Elizabeth gives you a Greek mythology book recommendation. Join us as we talk s3, e5 "Eight O'Clock at the Oasis"!
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Rob and Elizabeth gush over AS-P finally being crowned the queen we've always known she is. Elizabeth schools the uninitiated on the (maybe) 5th Beatles. And we talk about how Ozzy Osbourne's house was full of dog feces! Join us as we talk s3, e4 "One's Got Class and the Other One Dyes"!
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Rob confesses his hatred of The Brady Bunch, Elizabeth has never seen The Karate Kid... and hopefully you'll still want to listen to Under the Floorboards after you learn these deep, dark secrets! Join us as we talk s3, e3 "Application Anxiety"!
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Gushing about Weird Al Yankovic, gossiping about Olympic scandals, talking about what exactly constitutes a coddled egg... it's time for "Haunted Leg"! Join Elizabeth and Rob as the continue to fanperson over season 3!
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Elizabeth and Rob are excited to start season 3 with "Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days"! We discuss our love for Designing Women, the return of Murphy Brown... and a surprisingly in-depth discussion about Monica Lewinsky, the #metoo movement, and accountability. It gets deep, y'all!
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Elizabeth and Rob are back in their groove with s2,e22 "I Can't Get Started". If you love Christopher, this might not be the episode for you... we don't sugarcoat our feelings for him. It's a time of celebration (and Patsy Cline), but we have feelings... lots of feelings.
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Elizabeth is joined by a very special guest to discuss a very special episode, s2,e21 "Lorelai's Graduation Day". No, it's not a cast member. I think it's even better than that... unless of course we could ever score, AS-P. Then this guest would be a notch below AS-P. I might be overselling this... but I'm happy so check it out!
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Elizabeth's really done it this time... as she's invited BOTH of her best friends to join her to drink wine discuss "Help Wanted". There are lots of laugh, talking about my cat's weight problem, the Joy of Fitness Sex, and Mensch on the Bench.
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Elizabeth and Cathy are back at it again, this time discussing "Teach Me Tonight". We talk about a young George Clooney in The Facts of Life, we spend a loooot of time reminiscing about Schoolhouse Rock, and we eventually get around to talking about Christopher's fake Dad of the Year routine after Rory is hurt.
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Elizabeth invites her friend Kris to join her discussion of S2, E18 "Back in the Saddle Again". We have a blast discussing the hotness that is David Beckham, Ozzy Osbourne's penchant for partaking in animals, and we spend a weird amount of time talking about antifreeze.
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Elizabeth needed a mental health break completely due to audio and technology issues... but the bitch is back! And she's brought Lauren back with her to discuss s2, e17 "Dead Uncles and Vegetables". We talk Wham!, we discuss bad bridesmaids dresses... and we didn't get drunk this time! It's the small victories, people.
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After a bit of a hiatus, Elizabeth is joined by Megan 1 and Megan 2 of the infamous 6am Crowd ("Stumbling Ballerinas"). We discuss the forming of their friendship under the glorious banner of AS-P love, Paris' love of "mucho mac y cheese", and the 60/40 club. Oh... and they discuss s2,e16 "There's the Rub".
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Welcome to a new episode of Under the Floorboards!
First of all, sorry for the delay. Elizabeth's laptop decided to boycott the internet for a bit. But... WE'RE BACK! This week, Elizabeth is joined by her best friend since 7th grade, Kristin! I can't even really tell you what we talked about. You basically get a glimpse into what it's like to hang out with us... laughing hysterically at our jokes before the other even finishes the sentence. So, I apologize in advance. Listen to us giggle our way through "Lost and Found".
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Welcome to a new episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week, Elizabeth is joined by Lauren- Tom Hiddleston and Broadway fan extraordinaire! We get drunk, Lauren hums the Game of Thrones theme, and we spend way too much time discussing our local ice cream shop. Not to mention the in-depth discussion of Hansen (again). In between those nuggets of gold, we also discuss "It Should've Been Lorelai".
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Welcome to a new episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week, we welcome our first of many guest co-hosts as Rob chases his dreams and adults his face off. One of Elizabeth's best friends and an OG Gilmore girls fan, Cathy, was kind enough to spend her time drinking wine, eating Pop-Tarts, and discussing one of our favorite "townie" episodes, A-Tisket, A-Tasket.
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Welcome to a VERY special episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week our hosts take a guided tour through one of our favorite episodes with the one and only Rose Abdoo! That's right, Gypsy joins us to celebrate her first appearance in the series, provide some amazing behind-the-scenes Intel, and stroke our fragile egos!
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week Rob learns that Paris would hate him because he's "one of those people who gets happy looking at a sunset," and Elizabeth discovers a bad-ass punk fanzine. Meanwhile, we both support Lorelai in her quest to open a Coyote Ugly lemonade stand.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week it's Elizabeth's turn to need help with the words putting together, Rob continues his bro-mance with Dean, and we agree that the Bracebridge Dinner is awesome.
Also, Clara destroys everything, including our podcast.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week...Tristan leaves Stars Hollow forever! If you need more reasons to listen, Rob discusses his plans to run away with Neil Patrick Harris, Elizabeth realizes that Beyoncé once had a last name, and Lorelai gives us the best Dean impersonation of all time. (Seriously, it's pretty cool.)
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
If you like LOST, Switched at Birth, and the Vampire Diaires, then you'll probably enjoy this week's installment of our Gilmore girls podcast. This time around we express our love for the original Mia and enjoy an emotional but fun romp through Stars Hollow.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week we enjoy a return to a Christopher-free Stars Hollow! Join us as Elizabeth discusses overdue library books, Rob daydreams about Mariah Carey, and both our hosts spend an inordinate amount of time talking about Swicthed at Birth and Buffy .
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This week we return to the original series and we couldn’t be happier! Join us as Elizabeth sniffles through lots of pop culture references, and Rob adds Barack Obama to his growing list of bro-mances.
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As we finish up our review of the Revival, Elizabeth reveals that it completely lived up to her expectations, while Rob announces he would play poker with Katy Perry.
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This week we go "Wild" at the Secret Bar, because it's never or now. Rob wishes for a lot more (or a lot less) Luke, while Elizabeth fangirls over Sutton Foster.
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Join us as we continue our wild ride through the Gilmore girls revival and swing into Spring! This week Elizabeth continues her not-so-secret love affair with Kirk, and Rory continues her downhill sprint towards Loserville.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us this week as we discuss the first episode of the Gilmore girls Revival! Kirk got hot, Luke is as awesome as ever, and Rory...well....
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us this week as we discuss the MOJO of Elvis Costello, Riff without the Raff, and our mutual disdain for the female Newt Gingrich.
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Welcome to a very special episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us this week as we gush about our trip to the Gilmore girls Fan Fest in the town that inspired it all! Your hosts finally meet for the first time...in real life Stars Hollow!
Don't forget to check us out on iTunes!
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Enjoy this special edition where Elizabeth tells us all about her surprise trip to the real life inspiration for the Gilmore girls- the Mayflower Inn!!
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This episode we take a little detour from our reviews to quiz Elizabeth about her recent trip to the Gilmore girls' Nirvana- the ATX Festival and Gilmore girls reunion in Texas! Join us as Elizabeth dishes on meeting the stars, asking ASP the best question ever, and being a total fangirl.
Under the Floorboards is a Gilmore girls podcast hosted by two SUPERFANS! We love to talk about all things Gilmore, and we want to bring a little of the magic of Stars Hollow into your lives.
Keep in mind that while we are both excited and overflowing with great ideas for creative content, neither of us are what you would call "tec saavy". In this intro episode we had a few little technical difficulties and a steep learning curve on the editing front. In this episode we are simply introducing ourselves to you in hopes of giving you a glimpse of the awesomeness Under the Floorboards holds in store!
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This episode Elizabeth explains why her daughter Lorelai is actually more of a Sookie. Meanwhile, Rob struggles to do the words putting together.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This episode Rob isn't quite himself because he missed tickets to the upcoming Gilmore girls Fan Fest by mere seconds :'( But don't worry...he scored one of the extremely limited tickets made available later! That's right, both Elizabeth & Rob will be joining the festival, and will finally get to meet IRL!! Happy, happy, joy, joy!!
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
For our Season 2 premier we discuss our love of the Cher classic Mermaids, the fact that we are going to live forever, and how very much Rob wants to be awkwardly hugged by Alexis Bledel.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
For our Season 1 Finale we take a look back at all the things that make the first season awesome.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us as we make fun of James Joyce, geek out over the Bloomsday Festival, and spend far too much time discussing Elizabeth's hatred of stargazer lilies.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This time around Elizabeth crushes Rob's love of Alec Baldwin. Our hosts also discuss Milo's upcoming new show, Friends, and once again, the awesomeness of Amanda Palmer.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us for an all new edition as we discuss the awesomeness of Stephen King, Silence of the Lambs....and some less scary stuff.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This time around Elizabeth's sister- and newbie Gilmore girls fan- Lindsey, joins the podcast! Lindsey shares what it's like to be joining our ranks at such an exciting time in the fandom. She and Elizabeth also discuss the grossness of Max's chest hair and the lameness of frosted tips.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us as we start an all new Amanda Palmer Fan Club and set-up the biggest cliff-hanger in history. Oh, and we eventually get around to talking Gilmore girls as well.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This time around Rob encourages Elizabeth to escalate her feeling about Christopher from mild dislike to full-on hatred.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
OK folks, you are in for a real treat this episode. Forty-five extra minutes of Under the Floorboards! However, we spend most of that time discussing the awesomeness of One Tree Hill and Roswell.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This episode Elizabeth & Rob spend far too much time discussing One Tree Hill. Plus, we give you all the updates on the Gilmore girls Revival!
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us for Season 1, Episode 12- Double Date.
This time around Elizabeth gets emotional about the classic Cher flick, Mask, and Rob crushes on Dean some more. Plus, we give you all the updates on the Gilmore girls Revival!
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Join us for Season 1, Episode 11- Paris is Burning.
This time around we put down Max, make fun of Max, and generally hate-on Max.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Rob and Elizabeth are reunited for Season 1, Episode 10- Forgiveness & Stuff.
This edition we have a blast getting back to "normal"! We discuss Emily's vulnerability, Luke & Lorelai's flirting, and some stuff so gross we even disgust ourselves.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Rob is still on vacay, so he and his son decided to host Season 1, Episode 9- Rory's Dance. This episode may be Rob's favorite Gilmore girls episode EVER! There's lots and lots of Dean love, possibly a bit of Emily-bashing, and some father-son bonding.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
Join us for another Stars Hollow Love Fest! This episode Rob is on vacay, so Elizabeth's husband joins her to host Season 1, Episode 8- Love & War & Snow.
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This time around we discuss the awesomeness of Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory, Wonderfalls and Supermarket Sluts!
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This episode we discuss Farrah Fawcett, Justin Timberlake and more! Join us as we explore the deepening relationships between Rory and Richard, Lorelai and Emily, and Luke and Lorelai. Spoiler alert...Luke asks Lorelai to marry him!
Enjoy and be on the lookout for a special edition of Under the Floorboards, where we will discuss our dreams for the Gilmore girls Revival!
Welcome to Under the Floorboards!
Join us for an all new episode wherein we continue our tradition of rambling off on tangents, counting coffee's, and mocking everyone who's not us. Plus...cheese balls! Just like life in Stars Hollow!
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Thanks for joining us for another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This episode we applaud Rory for standing up to Paris and Tristan Duesch-gray. We delve deeper into what makes Rory tick, the Bard takes over Chilton and Max Medina hits the scene. It all culminates in some Logan bashing! Good times!
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Welcome to another episode of Under the Floorboards!
This time we dig a little deeper into what makes Lorelai tick, tag along at the club with Rory and Richard, and enjoy the infamous sweater fight.
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Under the Floorboards is a Gilmore girls podcast hosted by two SUPERFANS! We love to talk about all things Gilmore, and we want to bring a little of the magic of Stars Hollow into your lives.
Thanks to everyone who has listened and offered your feedback! We are still working out all those little kinks that come with not having a clue what we're doing :) Come along for a fun-filled hay-ride through Stars Hollow!
Enjoy and be on the lookout for our next episode, coming soon!
Under the Floorboards is a Gilmore girls podcast hosted by two SUPERFANS! We love to talk about all things Gilmore, and we want to bring a little of the magic of Stars Hollow into your lives.
Our first full-length episode is finally here!
Come listen to us relive the fun of our first glimpse of Stars Hollow and the girls.
Enjoy, and don't forget to check us out on iTunes!
7 Reasons Why I Hate Christopher Hayden, and Why You Should, Too
Christopher isn't exactly anyone's favorite Gilmore girls character. He's seen by all but a (misguided? confused? insane?) few, as just one of many obstacles standing between Luke and Lorelai. However, a few of us true believers hate Christopher with a deep, passionate loathing. Let's take a closer look at why I hate Christopher's ass-face guts, and why you should too.
- He ‘s a shitty dad. The first time we meet Christopher, he comes roaring into Stars Hollow on his motorcycle. Rory is, of course, overjoyed to see her dad. Lorelai…not so much. During their exchange Lorelai asks Chris what brings him to town. He replies that he was “just passing through” on his way to see his parents, so he thought he’d drop in on the Gilmore girls. What. An. Asshole. This casual statement has to hurt Rory on some level. To Chris, Rory is simply an afterthought. It was convenient for him to swing by, so he did. We find out in the next episode that this is the first time Christopher has EVER been to Stars Hollow. His nearly 16-year-old daughter has lived there since she was a toddler, and he has never visited. This is the moment that created- and perpetuates- my lifelong hate of Chris. He’s missed birthdays, doctor’s appointments, and all her firsts. He’s missed every lost tooth. He’s missed Christmas after Christmas. Now that Rory’s grown and the work of raising her is done, he wants to swoop in and be her buddy. Dick.
- He’s only around when things are good between him and Lorelai. When Christopher comes to town, you can bet he’s going to spend most of his time trying to get with Lorelai. During the aforementioned first visit to Stars Hollow, he takes advantage of Lorelai’s vulnerability after she gets an emotional beat-down from her parents. On another trip he lies to both Lorelai and Rory about his flourishing business and proposes to a flabbergasted Lorelai. Yet another time he sleeps with Lorelai and then proceeds to crush the girls’ hope that he is going to stick around for once. Worse yet, Christopher consistently cuts Rory out whenever he and Lorelai are on the outs.
- He’s always letting Rory down. It might be in one of a million small ways, like promising Rory a book he can’t actually buy. At other times he disappoints her monumentally, like when he gets Rory’s hopes up that he and her mom are going to get back together, or when he promises Rory he’ll stay away from Lorelai and then immediately breaks that promise. Christopher can always be counted on- to not be counted on.
- Every time he comes to town he fucks shit up for Lorelai. As mentioned above, Christopher takes advantage of an emotional Lorelai on his first trip to Stars Hollow; this on the night that Lorelai was supposed to be helping Luke paint. From that moment on, he leaves Lorelai a wreck of hurt feelings and confusion after every visit.
- He’s the “adult” version of Logan. ‘Nuff said.
- He’s even more of a douche when he inherits big money. Christopher was only 90% worthless butthole before he inherits millions of dollars. The dough simply closes that last 10%. Throwing money around like a pimp, now he is not only worthless, but arrogant and condescending as well. Beauty.
7. He’s a terrible influence on Lorelai.
Talking Lorelai into getting married without Rory there is despicable, and unforgivable.
Liking Christopher is cause for admittance to an institution. Simply dismissing him as an annoyance isn’t enough. A pure hate of Chris is all that will do. Join me, won’t you?
Logan Huntzberger's is often touted as the ultimate suitor for Rory Gilmore. With his quick-witted verbal sparring, Prince Charming good looks, and undeniable charm, it's easy to understand how a casual evaluation could lead one to this conclusion. With the Gilmore girls revival just around the corner, now seems like the right time for a lesson in dating- Logan style. Rule #1- Be rich. The kind of rich that allows your family to look down their plastic noses at Gilmore money. Rule #2- Be exceptionally good-looking. This is the closest thing to a job you should ever have. Rule #3- Be a bad boy. Seriously. I'm not talking a Dean-off-the-bus-from-Chicago, 90s knee length trench coat, floppy - haired bad boy; or a cool, bookish, monosyllabic, gel'd haired Jess Mariano bad boy. I'm talking really bad. Break all the rules; heck, break all the laws. Get booted from school after school until only daddy's money and connections can save you. Live the lazy, worthless, playboy lifestyle to the hilt. Why? Two reasons: First, because you can. You're rich. You're beautiful. You're untouchable. You're bored. Secondly, chicks love a bad boy. Rule #4- Be a jerk, but for goodness sake, be charming about it! This is extremely important. It is crucial that during your first few encounters with the girl you are pursuing, she regard you as the most shallow, worthless jerk on the planet- but a charming and exciting one ;D Plan an outrageous stunt to humiliate her in public, but make it something exciting that could be regarded as "sweet". Rule #5- Be adventurous. After all, besides pissing off the parents and spending their dough, what else do you have to do? Travel the world. Jump off cliffs. Follow a huge wheel of cheese down a really steep hill. Chicks love a guy who inspires them to take risks and challenges them to live a little on the edge. Rule #6- Let her come to you. Throw out your charming, rich, adventurous net and see what you drag in. Rule #7- Once you have her, mess stuff up. A lot. You want the fact that you are a worthless, butt-faced miscreant to be well-documented and firmly entrenched in her mind, from day one. She'll try to "help" (i.e. change) you, but as long as you stay rich and attractive, you're in like Flynn. At such time as you have solidified your screw up status, throw her a curve ball once in a while by pulling your crap together and bailing her out of a tough day at work or having dinner with her grandparents. This is "normal" boyfriend stuff, but by doing it only occasionally and in between screwups, it will seem super special. Rule #8- Avoid her friends and family as long as possible. Should you be forced into a situation where you have to meet them, do something really obnoxious like stealing a knick - knack or being a condescending jerk. Disguise your belittling as honesty unless the friend is an ex-boyfriend. In this case make no attempt to play nice. Use big words and put down his brightest accomplishments. BONUS When your girl storms off in a huff after you've berated her former boy-toy, you're free to assume you are broken up, thereby freeing you up to have sex with all the chick's you've been missing out on while in this "relationship". Also, NEVER visit her on her home turf. Do not go to her home town until it's time to propose or you need a note from her mommy. Rule #9- Grand gestures. Since you'll be screwing up a lot, you'll need a quick way to patch things up. Grand gestures are great, but time consuming. They usually require a lot of thinking and planning and even work. Meh. Instead, I suggest the Grand Genarasture. Here's how it works-money. Whenever your girl is in a tiff, just throw some of daddy's money at the problem. Do things that seem like grand gestures, but which require no thought or effort. Endless bouquets of flowers. Truckloads of candy. A coffee cart for a day. Grand Generastures work great for gift giving as well. The more expensive, and less labor intensive and creative, the better. Hand over your car and driver for a day. Buy her a Birkin Bag. Set her up in your posh apartment. You may ask, "But Logan, won't she realize these are only hollow gestures that require only money and a phone call?" If she does, dump her. (But she won't.) Rule #10- Bond with her loser dad. After all, he's the future you! Rule #11- Pretend to "clean up your act" by spending a year in Europe, "working" and meeting cute British girls with boys names. Once this plays out, blow millions of dollars in a hair-brained scheme. The sympathy you'll win will earn you months of getting out of stuff you don't want to do and blowing off steam while globe-trotting with your even more worthless pals. Rule #12- Propose in a manner which will make her so uncomfortable she just may say yes to escape the embarrassment. Follow these rules to land the perfect starter wife. And don't worry, if she turns you down you'll still have a fandom of girls mesmerized by your charm, good looks and bad boy spirit swooning for you. Who knows, they may even beg for you and she to be reunited ;)
Cha-Ching! Cashing in on the Gilmore girls Revival
The substantial fandom is collectively holding its breath as we await the return of our beloved coffee-swilling, quick-quipping, slightly spastic Gilmore girls. Several new announcements are being released daily. So many, in fact, that my co-host and I have devoted an entire segment of our Gilmore girls podcast, Under the Floorboards, to collecting and sorting revival news for our listeners. We have espoused the opinion for several weeks that this is a most excellent time to be a Gilmore girls fan. Of course for fans like us, anytime is a great time!
Unfortunately, all this awesome comes at a price. Every news source on the planet seems committed to cashing in on the revival. The articles range from funny and informative, to completely asinine. I’m here to discuss the latter. The most latter. The biggest, steaming pile of latter you’ve ever stepped in.
In an article from a news source I won’t list or link because I will in no way be furthering the spread of such non-sense, several “mistakes” made in the Gilmore girls, are pointed out. This article essentially reads like a hate letter to Team Palladino.
As fans, most of us can (grudgingly) accept the crazy-varied opinions of other fans. Team Jess or Team Dean? Christopher- yay or nay? Jackson’s condom cap- keep it or toss it? Whatever the argument, at the end of the day we respect the opinions of our fellow fans, even when we disagree. This is the world the Palladino’s created; our very own Stars Hollow.
The disparaging article must have been penned by someone who can’t stand the show, yet watched it anyway. (Come to think of it, they should co-host a podcast ;) I’m not sure what could be left to like after tearing down the show’s creator, executive producers, writers, and several major story lines and characters. What irritates me- to the point I had no choice but to respond- is that here you have a person who clearly doesn’t get the Gilmore girls at all, telling us all why it sucks. Worse yet, it is now making it's way all across the interwebs, leaving behind it a trail of poop three feet dep. This article is nothing more than a shameless attempt to cash in on our “little corner of the world,” and that sucks.
I will now take each of the points offered in said article, and explain why they were written by a poo-poo head.
Luke gets a love child… Oh, shit. Here we go again. Hasn’t there been enough April hate, already? For the last time, people, April was just a little girl who wanted to know her dad. She is an ASP creation and as such, should be respected as canon. Luke and Lorelai screwed up their relationship, plain and simple.
On top of this nonsense, the article claims ASP, “slowly began to dismantle the show behind-the-scenes,” after failed contract negotiations with the CW. Folks, ASP keeps the Stars Hollow sign hanging in her house. She fucking loved the show, the actors and the fans- so much so she’s giving us all the ending we’ve been begging for, BECAUSE we begged for it!
Chris and Lorelai get back together Did I hate this storyline with a powerful, seething anger? Yeah-huh. However, this article refers to Chris and Lorelai as “Ross and Rachel.” Please. Also, season 7. C'mon.
The Digger and Lorelai relationship
This relationship is referred to as "filler." While I like to think of all of Lorelai's non-Luke relationships as filler, that is not the spirit this statement was written in. Chris Eigeman is called a big guest star who the writers struggled to find a place for just because he was available. Though Jason is not Luke, thereby not good enough for Lorelai, I enjoyed their storyline greatly. Digger was the only of Lorelai's boyfriends besides Luke who ever really kept up with her, and his interactions with Emily were priceless.
Rory gets a haircut and turns into a bitch
Apparently going to Yale turned the formerly studious girl into a "swan princess". The article sites her involvement with the Life & Death Brigade as evidence to support this fact.
It is true, that Rory went through a lot of changes after entering Yale. She did, in fact, get a bitchin' new haircut, which I missed horribly for the rest of the series. She meets new people, tries new things, grows as a student and writer, and yes, develops a much more confident veneer as she sheds her mousy personality gradually. Some might call this a "mistake." I prefer to think of it as a character arc, or even- the typical college experience. But what do I know?
Rachel returns and the writers don't know what to do with her
Ok...did you even watch this show? You know this isn't Friends, right? There was that Rachel reference above, so maybe the author was confused.
Luke's Rachel was mentioned in an episode prior to her return, and their relationship is a key piece of the Luke puzzle that gives his character depth, as well as forcing Lorelai to deal with her own feelings for Luke.
This point also rambles on about the show having so many characters they didn't know what to do with them all. Would any Gilmore fan dispute the fact that every character- from townie to Rory- had a critical part to play in developing our love for Stars Hollow?
Dean gets dumber
Admittedly, I have always been bummed that Dean becomes less bookish as the series progresses. He was certainly a more well-rounded dude in season one, than anytime thereafter. However, this article treats Dean as if he were a knuckle-dragging dufus with no value at all, post first season. WTF?
Rory's two college gal pals
First of all- see above reference to all things season 7.
More importantly, Lucy and Olivia fucking rock! This is one of the few things about season 7 that worked for me. Besides the fact that I am in love with Krysten Ritter, Rory desperately needed a couple of sassy, quirky, gal pals. This article calls the girls, "utterly devoid of personality and purpose." I call them two scoops of awesome with a side of kick-ass. They are two of the biggest personalities in the final season, and a huge help in getting me through all the Logan crap.
Worse yet, this point includes Lindsay and Tobin as part of an "endless roster of useless characters." Wow. Just. Wow. I hate Lindsay passionately, but to call her useless is admitting you have no clue what the hell the Gilmore girls is even about. Lindsay is a pivotal character in developing Dean's story, as well as a truly entertaining addition to Dean and Rory's story. And Tobin?? Who- besides Michel- doesn't love Tobin?
Rory meets a naked dude who falls for her
#1- She's in college. Shit happens.
#2- Who wouldn't fall in love with Rory?
Jess was written off the show for a spinoff
What can be said? Whoops. While Jess was a beloved character, would you really want to begrudge the guy a chance at something to help him further his career? They tried something that didn't work. That's showbiz.
For the love of all that is right in the world, if you just have to cash in on the revival, please watch the show, love the show and respect the show. Gilmore girls fans are part of a culture. We are residents of Stars Hollow, and we get ticked when people mess with our neighbors.
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This week we sat and forever am at work here. Elizabeth and Rob ponder the fate of Certs(z?), applaud the use of the underappreciated word "frittering", and discuss watching porn as a legit career option.
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My name is Rob. I'm a 39-year-old dude, and I love Dean Forester from the Gilmore girls. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some Jared Padalecki stalker. I'm not IN LOVE with the guy. I know Dean is just a character on a TV show; albeit the best TV show ever. It seems to me that Dean has got a really raw deal in the Gilmore girls fandom. With the revival on the horizon, I feel it is my duty as Dean's self-proclaimed wingman, and a Gilmore girls superfan, to have my boy's back. The three biggest complaints I read about Dean: 1- He's too clingy.
2- He doesn't support Rory/ He holds her back.
3- He cheated on his wife to be with Rory Let me explore each of these points individually. He's too clingy. To quote Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Xander, "On behalf of my gender, hey!" I challenge anyone to site an example of Dean being clingy BEFORE Jess enters the picture. Prior to Jess, Dean, it's true, was devoted to Rory. He truly enjoyed spending all his time with her. He made sure he was always available to her, and that she was aware of this availability. He thought about her all the time. He built her a car. He defended her honor against tools like Tristan Douche-grey. He read and enjoyed Emma and other books that Rory suggested, as well as recommended Rory read Hunter Thompson. (Let us not forget that Dean was written to be a lot more bookish, pre-Jess.) Simply put, Dean was head-over-heels in love with Rory, and she adored him for his devotion. Dean wore his love for her on his sleeve, much to his own detriment later on. Then came Jess; and who can blame Dean for being jealous and freaking out? The writing on the wall was obvious to everyone, especially Rory's passionate devotee. Dean held on for dear life the only way he knew how- by showering Rory with more and more attention. He was a young guy desperately in love with an incredible, one-of-a-kind girl who challenged him, inspired him and excited him in a way he was sure he'd never feel again if he lost her. Dean doesn't support Rory/ Holds her back. What a load of BS. "She WILL go to Yale, and if she doesn't it won't be because of me." We all remember when Dean says this to Lorelai in Season 1. He proves it time and time again. Dean is always understanding about Rory's crazy workload. He never pressures her, but always makes himself available to her. Honestly, the guys a frickin' saint for how understanding he is. He constantly puts himself on her schedule. There is only one instance when Dean becomes frustrated at being ditched for the umpteenth time and acts like a total jerk. In the episode Hammers and Veils, Dean throws a tantrum when Rory says she can't see him on a day she has promised. He quickly realizes he was a jerk- Rory realizes she acted rashly, as well- and apologizes for his asinine behavior. Dean cheats on his wife. Okay. No way around it, this is a huge screw-up. Dean cheats on Lindsay to be with Rory, and that sucks. However, one thing that always chaps my butt about this argument is that Rory is never held to the same level of criticism as Dean. It takes two to tango, after all. Rory is every bit as guilty as Dean, yet she is never held accountable, while Dean is painted as a monster. My defense of Dean on this point is never popular, but hey, when have I ever concerned myself with popularity? Dean was a naive young man in love with a remarkable young woman. When Rory stomps on his heart during the Jess ordeal (wherein she cheated on Dean, btw), Dean's whole world is thrown off its axis. That boy loved Rory so deeply he couldn't imagine a future without her. He couldn't see how he'd ever meet someone as unique and amazing, who made him feel a love so deep, ever again. So he made a really bad choice- he settled. He settled for Lindsay; a beautiful, intelligent, sweet young girl who seemed to really care about him. She appreciated his devotion, and, most importantly, she dulled the pain of the prospect of life without Rory. Dean found solice...and then he proceeded to make a slew of horrible life decisions. He gets married to a girl who will never be more than his second choice. He cuts back on his college courses. He takes time off from college. He works more and more while Lindsay apparently stays home and concocts ideas to spend money. All of these things, I would point out, he does because he is still that same guy who puts the needs of the woman he cares about ahead of his own. He does all this for Lindsay. It's obvious from even before the wedding, that Dean is still in love with Rory, and maybe always will be. So when opportunities arise to spend time with her, he eagerly pounces on them. When the chance to sleep with Rory presents itself, it's never even a question.
Should Dean have handled this situation better? Absolutely. He should have been straight with Lindsay right away. Unfortunately there's no instruction manual for matters of the heart. He had already been burned by his love for Rory, and he was scared to give up what he had for a chance at something he'd already lost once before. For those folks who think Dean's motivation for what he did was sex...you must have been reading or baking or something while you watched the entire series. Dean screwed up monumentally, but he did it for love. What does Dean get in return for his love and devotion to Rory the second time around? Another epic heartbreak, after getting treated like dirt. Again. I'm team Dean, but not in the way you'd expect. I want Dean back for the revival, but in my dream world Rory will end up with Jess, and Dean will have found an awesome girl who encouraged him to finish school and live up to his potential. She'll treat him with all the respect and love he deserves, he will love her passionately, and they will live happily ever after. I have no doubt team Palladino will take care of my boy Dean.
My name is Elizabeth. I’m a 34 year old chick who is tired of the amount of hate directed at April Nardini of Gilmore girls fame. Now, please realize I said APRIL, not ANNA… Anna’s all on her own. That bitch be crazy. But April is someone who has been painted unfairly as a TWELVE YEAR OLD villain for the past decade. [Disclaimer: I fully understand that the character of Luke’s daughter was introduced into the plot precisely to cause drama and an eventual break for Luke and Lorelai. The character as a plot device we would have preferred never happened is not what I’m referring to here. I’m talking about the people who blame the actions of the character entirely for the demise of their favorite television relationship.] The biggest arguments I hear against the littlest Nardini are as follows: 1. She was responsible for the destruction of our precious Luke and Lorelai. 2. She was a low rent version of Rory. 3. She pimped out her father to her swim instructor.
- She broke up Luke and Lorelai.
WHOA BOY! Back up there for a second. This is the argument that induces the most amount of rage in my soul. Let’s all remember that when that little girl showed up in a helmet to Luke’s diner to get a DNA sample for her science fair project, she was all of TWELVE YEARS OLD. I don’t know about you, but at 12 years old, I was more focused on buying my friends the perfect Looney Tunes poster for their birthdays and not on how to contribute to the utter destruction of an adult relationship that I previously had no knowledge of. The only two people who were responsible for the dissolution of Luke and Lorelai were… wait for it… LUKE AND LORELAI (okay, and Anna Nardini didn’t help matters). Luke started by not coming clean to his fiancée about the existence of his daughter for TWO months. That started a snowball effect of lost trust that Lorelai was never able to fully regain. And then the postponing of the wedding clearly broke Lorelai’s heart… but let’s be honest, the single most important element in any adult relationship is communication. And Lorelai unfortunately had her bluff called about postponing the wedding and then never came clean with Luke about how she really felt. And then… Christopher, as he always does, rides in to ruin the day once again. But this can’t even be blamed on Christopher, the beloved Gilmore girls scapegoat. Lorelai screwed the pooch Christopher and while I give her credit for having come clean to Luke… that was the nail in the coffin of what is so lovingly referred to as JavaJunkie (the ship name of Luke and Lorelai). Nowhere in any of this do I see a twelve year old girl scheming to break up two grown-ass adults. She wasn’t even trying to pull some Parent Trap nonsense. She may not even be a teenager yet, but April is above that. 2. The April character was a cheap copy of Rory.
Because God forbid we have two hardworking, studious young women on a single show. We’re only allowed one. The rest of the teenagers/young adult women need to be focused solely on how best to contour and whether or not they should get bangs (and don’t get me wrong, I’m not denigrating these things. I have considered spending my daughter’s college fund at Sephora a time or twelve). And aside from that, April and Rory are interested in two very different aspects of academia. Rory is more literary while April is focused on STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math). And to be honest, given this, April is the more revolutionary of the two young female characters. Literature has always been seen as a predominantly female discipline while math and science are always shown to be dominated by the male species. So not only are Rory and April not equally engaged in the same branches of academia, it can be argued that the character of April does more for the view of women in media than Rory does. April actually breaks some of the female stereotypes. 3. She tried to hook her dad up with her swim instructor.
At this point, April Nardini is the ripe ol’ age of thirteen. She previously had a great relationship with her father’s ex-fiancée (if her mom hadn’t screwed that up. Thanks Obama Anna!). They were clearly headed in a direction that could have meant a lifelong friendship (with maternal overtones). However, at this point in the show, that was not to be. So April, concerned about her father being lonely, sees something in her swim instructor that might mean they’d be a good fit… even though in the end she was VERY wrong. April clearly loves her father, even if she’s only known him for a whopping year. She wants to see him happy and I’m sure she has a clear understanding of how hard the Lorelai break up was for him. So, she tries to set him up. I will never understand how anyone sees something devious in the act of a loving daughter who doesn’t want her father to feel lonely. Luke and Lorelai are not together, this isn’t even a Rory/Logan situation where they may or may not have been broken up. In the end it’s not and never should be a 13 year olds responsibility to repair a relationship that was already damaged. Are the fans mad because she spent her energy trying to get her father to date the swim instructor instead of getting her back together with Lorelai? Again I say… THIRTEEN. In summation, April is an innocent pawn in AS-P’s universe that somehow is made out to be the bad guy. And I truly believe that even Amy must be confounded by the feelings her fandom has towards this particular character. She’s not Christopher, she’s not Anna… hell, she’s not even Rune. She’s a young girl who has shown nothing but thoughtfulness and kindness to the people around her. And let’s not forget that this girl had absolutely no father figure in her life until her twelfth year. She could very well have been angry and bitter that she had been denied a relationship with her dad, that Luke missed out on her first steps, her first science project, the first time she completed the quadratic equation. But instead she moved forward with her life in the spirit of building relationships with her father and all of the people important to him. But yeah… she’s the reason we had to endure Lorelai’s as Mrs. Hayden in season seven. ::all the eye rolls:: As this Bustle article stated, Vanessa Marano should absolutely return for Gilmore girls: Seasons. Dislike the coincidence of her arrival to the end of Luke and Lorelai all you want…. But April Nardini is Luke’s daughter, maybe (hopefully) Lorelai’s stepdaughter and Rory’s stepsister. She was a vital part of the final two seasons. She was a creation of AS-P. She deserves a spot in the revival and we, as Gilmore girls fans, deserve to know all the amazing ways April Nardini has lit the world on fire since we left her in 2007.