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Lori Adams-Brown

After 20 years of working in Asia, and growing up in South America, I’ve spent my life living in several countries around the world, getting to know people of different cultures, speaking different languages, and learning to appreciate different ways of living this human life. This podcast is a celebration of differences, and a space to discuss how in learning about our differences we discover how we all can benefit from simply listening to and learning from each other. Join us on a deep dive into conversations about how our differences can help us all make a world of difference whether we work in business, volunteer in nonprofits, want to improve faith-based spaces, or we see the need for social impact in our own communities. We discuss a variety of topics around diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging as it relates to cultures around the globe, and how we can join together in synergy from our varying perspectives to make a difference that is inclusive and sustainable.

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Hey there, difference makers and global leaders! Ever feel like you've been told to just "toughen up" when facing life's challenges? Maybe you've tried to push through the pain and suffering, only to find yourself feeling overwhelmed and exhausted? If that sounds familiar, you're not alone. Let's talk about building resilience and embracing vulnerability to navigate life's twists and turns in a healthier way.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Strengthen your leadership skills by building resilience in the face of challenges.
  • Unlock your potential for success by cultivating a growth mindset.
  • Discover the power of self-care in navigating life's obstacles and maintaining balance.
  • Master strategies for overcoming jet lag to make the most of your travels.
  • Embrace vulnerability and emotions to unlock personal growth and self-discovery.

Resilience isn't necessarily about avoiding adversity, because let's just be real. Life has pain and suffering in it. And if we ignore that, that's not increasing our resilience. It's only burying that deep inside our bodies in a way that it will spill out later through some unresolved grief. - Lori Adams Brown

Building Resilience as a Leader

Effective leadership involves building resilience to navigate challenges and setbacks. Resilient leaders can inspire and motivate others through their own ability to bounce back from adversity. By embracing vulnerability and learning from difficult experiences, leaders can cultivate resilience that strengthens their decision-making and problem-solving skills.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit www.betterhelp.com/difference for 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp. This offer is specifically for the listeners of the podcast and is a gift from the host to help you understand what it takes to move forward in a healthier way.
  • Join the Patreon community Difference Makers at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to access exclusive episodes, interact with other listeners, and receive sneak peeks into upcoming events and giveaways. Different tiers are available, starting at $5 a month.
  • Share your tips and tricks for building resilience, especially for those who travel and work through jet lag, speak at events and conferences, and maintain connections with family back home. Engage with the community and contribute to the conversation.
  • Reach out to the host if you're in a location where she's traveling and would like to meet. Listeners are encouraged to connect with the host during her travels and share how the podcast has impacted them.
  • Embrace challenges, cultivate resilience, and discover the strength and courage within yourself. Prioritize self-care and resilience-building, and model this behavior for others to give them permission to do the same. Let the host know how you're building resilience on social media or in our Difference Makers community.

Resilience isn't just about weathering the storm. It's actually about learning to find joy, and find even joy memories in your own past that can help you walk through that resilience. - Lori Adams Brown

Cultivating Growth Mindset for Success

Cultivating a growth mindset is essential for success in both personal and professional endeavors. This mindset allows individuals to view challenges as opportunities for growth and learning. By approaching setbacks with a positive and open mindset, individuals can develop resilience and adaptability, ultimately leading to greater success and fulfillment.

Resilience isn't just about weathering the storm. It's actually about learning to find joy, and find even joy memories in your own past that can help you walk through that resilience. - Lori Adams Brown

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Embracing Resilience in Life

00:02:00 - Resilience During Travel

00:03:07 - Prioritizing Self-Compassion

00:05:09 - Discovering Inner Resilience

00:08:15 - Cultivating Resilience

00:13:23 - Building Resilience During Travel

00:15:13 - Cultivating a Growth Mindset

00:19:43 - Building Resilient Communities

00:21:40 - Finding Joy and Resilience

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Embracing Resilience in Life

Lori encourages difference makers to prioritize resilience and self-care, offering a special offer from Betterhelp for listeners.

00:02:00 - Resilience During Travel

Lori discusses the additional challenges of maintaining resilience while traveling, shares personal experiences, and hints at tips and tricks for managing resilience during travel.

00:03:07 - Prioritizing Self-Compassion

Lori emphasizes the importance of prioritizing self-compassion and self-care, especially for leaders and difference makers navigating life's challenges and obstacles.

00:05:09 - Discovering Inner Resilience

Lori shares a personal experience of returning to Asia, acknowledging emotions, and embracing vulnerability as key components of resilience cultivation.

00:08:15 - Cultivating Resilience

Lori highlights the importance of embracing vulnerability, acknowledging emotions, and finding joy moments to build resilience, both in personal and professional aspects of life.

00:13:23 - Building Resilience During Travel

Lori talks about the challenges of traveling for speaking engagements and shares tips on how she manages her time and energy at conferences. She emphasizes the importance of guarding time for rest and connecting with others while on the road.

00:15:13 - Cultivating a Growth Mindset

Lori discusses the significance of a growth mindset and the value of being open to learning from different perspectives. She shares her passion for exploring new places, cultures, and histories, highlighting the impact it has on her as a person.

00:19:43 - Building Resilient Communities

Lori emphasizes the importance of seeking support from friends, family, and professional help during challenging times. She also encourages listeners to find a sense of community, whether online or in person, and shares the purpose of the "Difference Makers" community.

00:21:40 - Finding Joy and Resilience

Lori discusses the concept of finding joy in memories as a way to process and build resilience during difficult times. She shares a personal joy memory and how it helps her navigate the pain and suffering in her life and encourages listeners to embrace challenges and cultivate resilience.

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If you're feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of racial justice and faith intersections, and wondering how to truly make a difference, then you are not alone! The struggle to understand the historical context and apply it to modern-day challenges can be daunting. Many may be seeking guidance on how to effectively navigate these issues and create meaningful change.

My special guests are Jemar Tisby, Doug Stone

Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of "The Color of Compromise," is a historian, author, and speaker. His work has been featured in reputable platforms such as CNN, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, and the New York Times. Jemar's expertise in addressing the truth about the American church's complicity in racism makes him a significant voice in the intersection of faith and racial justice. As a PhD candidate in history at the University of Mississippi, his commitment to shedding light on historical lessons from abolitionist movements and advocating for social reform through interracial solidarity is evident in his work. Jemar's impact extends beyond academia as he is the founder and president of the Witness of Black Christian Collective and the co-host of the Pass the Mic podcast. His dedication to historical research and advocacy for justice makes him an influential figure in the conversation on racial equity and social change.

Doug Stone, an esteemed author and professor with a wealth of knowledge in American religious history, specifically focusing on the 19th-century revivalism and social reform, is a vital voice in the discussion of faith and racial justice. With an MDIV and a PhD from Princeton Theological Seminary, Doug's expertise and dedication to understanding the historical abolitionist movements bring valuable insights to the current social and racial justice landscape. As a committed pastor and a professor at Seattle Pacific University, Doug's passion for intercultural learning and his extensive experience in leading students on international trips underscore his commitment to shaping a global perspective on faith and justice. His contributions to the Awakening to Justice: Faithful Voices from the Abolitionist Past project reflect his deep understanding of the impact of historical narratives on contemporary social reform.

The theological, the Christian principle of loving your neighbor as yourself is still applicable in that situation. And what it forces us to do is to try to perceive the world from another person's perspective, which is what a world of difference podcast is all about. - Jemar Tisby

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore the profound impact of faith on driving meaningful change in racial justice movements.
  • Uncover valuable historical insights and powerful tactics used by abolitionist movements to inspire modern-day activism.
  • Discover the pivotal role of interracial solidarity in advancing social reform and creating lasting change.
  • Learn actionable strategies from historical abolitionists to empower and guide today's activists in their advocacy work.
  • Gain a deeper understanding of history through the impactful influence of personal journals on shaping historical narratives.

Role of Interracial Solidarity

The importance of interracial solidarity in driving social reform is underscored throughout the episode, emphasizing the need for collaboration across diverse backgrounds to effect meaningful change. By highlighting the contributions of lesser-known figures from the abolitionist movement, the discussion showcases the power of unity in addressing racial injustices. The episode prompts faith leaders and activists to prioritize building connections and fostering meaningful relationships across racial boundaries, recognizing the collective strength that comes from diverse voices working together towards justice

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit awakeningtojustice.com for free resources related to the book Awakening to Justice: Faithful Voices from the Abolitionist Past, including a discussion guide, sermon ideas, music suggestions, worship song ideas, and a 35-minute film documentary.
  • Order a copy of "Awakening to Justice," at: https://www.ivpress.com/awakening-to-justice and get a discount just for A World of Difference podcast listeners with promo code: IVPPOD20
  • Subscribe to Jemar Tisby's substack at jemartisby.substack.com for more of his writing and insights on racial justice and faith.
  • Participate in a book club, church group, or civic group to study Awakening to Justice together, and consider hosting a viewing or screening of the accompanying film documentary followed by a discussion.
  • Consider applying for grants to gather and travel to historical sites related to racial justice advocacy, fostering intentional connections and learning from different perspectives.
  • Take pilgrimages together with a group to historical sites in your area that have significance, paying attention not only to the content of what you're studying, but also to the connections that you're forming.

The justification follows the action. In the case of us race-based chattel slavery, slaveholders were going to get their money. They were going to find laborers. They were going to increase their bottom line by not paying them. And then they were going to come up with the rationale and the reasoning to justify it. - Jemar Tisby

Lessons from Abolitionist Movements

The episode explores the valuable lessons that can be gleaned from historical abolitionist movements, shedding light on the strategies and tactics employed by abolitionists to fight against racism and oppression. By studying the experiences of abolitionists, modern activists can gain insights into effective approaches to address racial injustices and promote equality in society. The conversation emphasizes the relevance of historical narratives in shaping current advocacy efforts and highlights the enduring impact of past activism on present-day social justice movements.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Authors

00:02:49 - Unveiling a Compelling Discovery

00:09:07 - The Other Narrative of Christianity

00:11:38 - Contemporary Relevance and Challenges

00:15:14 - Importance of Interracial Solidarity

00:16:40 - Documenting Our Work

00:18:13 - Applying Faith to Justice Issues

00:19:15 - Lesser-Known Abolitionist Figures

00:26:53 - Faith and Pursuit of Justice

00:32:32 - The Call to Justice and Unity

00:33:30 - The Influence of Narratives

00:34:43 - Justification of Slavery

00:39:00 - Lessons from Abolitionists

00:45:43 - Calls to Action

00:50:19 - Importance of Listening to Different Voices

00:50:58 - Embracing Differences and Working Together

00:51:38 - Global Relevance of the Book

00:52:02 - Encouragement for Self-Care

00:52:52 - Final Words of Encouragement

Our differences are beautiful. And we want to highlight those because it's our different perspectives that help each of us think more deeply and make a difference together in ways we otherwise wouldn't. - Lori Adams-Brown

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Authors

Host Lori introduces authors Jamar Tisby and Doug Stone, highlighting their backgrounds and the inspiration behind their new book.

00:02:49 - Unveiling a Compelling Discovery

Doug discusses the exciting discovery of a diary belonging to an abolitionist found in a box at Adrian College, sparking the inspiration for their book.

00:09:07 - The Other Narrative of Christianity

Jamar explores the alternative narrative of Christianity, focusing on the voices and actions of those who worked for justice and equality within the context of their faith, challenging the prevailing narrative of complicity with racism.

00:11:38 - Contemporary Relevance and Challenges

Doug highlights the ongoing relevance of the abolitionist voices in the book, emphasizing the need to confront the continuing effects of racism and white supremacy, drawing parallels between historical struggles and modern-day activism.

00:15:14 - Importance of Interracial Solidarity

Jemar emphasizes the importance of not giving up on interracial solidarity and cooperation, highlighting the power of people coming together across differences to pursue common goals, such as the abolition movement.

00:16:40 - Documenting Our Work

Doug discusses the significance of documenting our work for posterity, encouraging the use of personal journals, online platforms, and video to leave a legacy for future generations, as exemplified by the journal of the lesser-known abolitionist Ingram.

00:18:13 - Applying Faith to Justice Issues

Jemar delves into the intersection of faith and justice, emphasizing the application of theological principles to societal and structural levels, urging individuals to get proximate with those on the margins and engage in actions that demonstrate love for neighbors.

00:19:15 - Lesser-Known Abolitionist Figures

Doug highlights the contributions of lesser-known abolitionist figures, such as Ingram and Nancy Prince, who played pivotal roles in the abolition movement, including the education of emancipated slaves in Jamaica, shedding light on their collaborative, interracial efforts.

00:26:53 - Faith and Pursuit of Justice

Jemar discusses how faith intersects with the pursuit of justice, emphasizing the application of the golden rule and the concept of loving neighbors as oneself on a societal and institutional level, encouraging the engagement of religious institutions in social justice issues today.

00:32:32 - The Call to Justice and Unity

Jemar and Doug discuss the need for people of all faiths to come together and work towards justice and unity, addressing issues like racial justice and more.

00:33:30 - The Influence of Narratives

The conversation delves into the impact of personal narratives and cultural filters on interpreting scriptures and justifying actions, especially in the context of the US and historical racism.

00:34:43 - Justification of Slavery

Jemar addresses the age-old question of how the same scriptures can both liberate and condone enslavement, highlighting how the justification often follows the action, especially in the case of race-based chattel slavery.

00:39:00 - Lessons from Abolitionists

Doug and Jemar emphasize the importance of intentional connection and fellowship with others, drawing inspiration from the abolitionists and their commitment to coming together to work towards justice.

00:45:43 - Calls to Action

The guests provide concrete calls to action, encouraging people to come together, take pilgrimages, and intentionally form connections with others from diverse backgrounds to foster longevity, perseverance, and resilience in the struggle for justice.

00:50:19 - Importance of Listening to Different Voices

Lori promotes listening to Jamar Tisby and Doug Stone, highlighting the value of diverse perspectives in making a difference and understanding commonalities.

00:50:58 - Embracing Differences and Working Together

Emphasizes the beauty of diverse perspectives and the importance of working together for justice and making a difference shoulder to shoulder.

00:51:38 - Global Relevance of the Book

Discusses how the book's insights on race and faith intersecting are relevant worldwide, encouraging continued conversations and efforts towards justice.

00:52:02 - Encouragement for Self-Care

Lori encourages listeners to prioritize self-care, highlighting the importance of recharging to continue making a positive impact in the world.

00:52:52 - Final Words of Encouragement

Lori expresses gratitude for the listeners' efforts and encourages them to keep making a difference while taking care of themselves.

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Does this sound familiar? Have you ever felt the pressure of unrealistic expectations weighing you down, leaving you questioning your worth? It's a struggle many of us face, especially as women, and it can be incredibly disheartening. But what if there was a way to break free from the cycle and embrace your true self-worth? Let's dive into how embracing individuality and self-worth through empowering messages in music can transform your life.

My special guest is Shannan Copland

Shannan Copland, an indie pop artist based in Portland, Oregon, is recognized for her impactful and relatable music as a singer/songwriter. Born and raised in the SF Bay Area, California, she studied music from a young age, with a strong foundation in piano and vocal training. Collaborating with musicians and educators globally, including ones in Norway, Italy, and Portugal, has enriched her musical style with diverse cultural influences. With a love for piano and voice, she involved herself in every musical opportunity available and her passion for songwriting ignited during her teenage years. After high school, Shannan toured the United States with a group singing in schools and also performed in a theater. Her upcoming release "Enough" is poised to further empower women by promoting self-worth and authenticity. Shannan's music contains powerful messages that resonate with audiences, offering a source of strength and self-acceptance, particularly for women navigating their unique journeys.

Shannan and her husband spent the first decade of their marriage mostly living abroad in Portugal and Italy where they started a non-profit organization together. Working with talented musicians, artists and individuals from around the globe combined with her experiences living abroad have influenced her perspectives on life and the world around her which also reflect in her songwriting. Now, as she releases her own music, Shannan hopes to encourage, inspire, and provoke deeper thought through her music for listeners.

Her newest single “Enough” releases on April 12 and serves as the underlying anthem of much of her music. With its driving pop rock beat, “Enough” inspires listeners to be their authentic selves, reject image management, and not let other’s opinions or standards hold them back from achieving their aspirations.

"You are enough. The world may think otherwise of you, but it doesn't matter. Their opinions do not change your worth. Stand in that worth." - Shannan Copland

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover how Shannan Copland's indie pop music inspires self-acceptance and empowerment for women.
  • Explore the profound impact of music on boosting self-worth and confidence for women.
  • Uncover the creative songwriting process and inspirational sources behind empowering music for women.
  • Understand the diverse cultural perspectives on modesty and beauty and their influence on harmful expectations for women.
  • Embrace the empowering messages in Shannan's music that uplift and empower women to embrace their individuality and worth.

Uncover Shannan's Inspirational Songwriting Process

Shannan Copland's songwriting process stems from personal experiences and challenges societal expectations, offering a reflective and empowering narrative. Her music reflects her journey of self-discovery and the transformative power of embracing individual differences. By sharing her vulnerabilities and struggles, Copland connects with her audience on a profound level and inspires them to embrace their worth through her empowering messages.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Sign up for Shannan Copland's newsletter on her website, ShannanCopland.com, to get an early sneak peek and listen to her new song Enough before its official release on April 12.
  • Follow Shannan Copland on Instagram and other social platforms at ShannonCoplandmusic to stay updated on her latest releases and news.
  • Listen to Shannan Copland's new song Enough on Spotify or your preferred music streaming platform on April 12, and share it with your friends and family to spread the empowering message.
  • Show your support for Shannan Copland by adding her music to your playlists and sharing it with others who may benefit from her inspiring and uplifting songs.
  • Stay tuned for Shannan Copland's upcoming releases, including a fun summer song and an emotional track for Mother's Day, to continue experiencing her meaningful and thought-provoking music.

"I want people to, after they hear this song, just to feel liberated and feel that they're worthy and that they can go out and face whatever challenges they have ahead in their own skin and be confident in that."

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Boosting Self-Worth through Music

Copland's music serves as a source of empowerment for women, promoting self-acceptance and confidence. By delivering messages of self-worth and authenticity, her songs help listeners overcome feelings of inadequacy and societal pressures. Through her music, Copland advocates for celebrating one's uniqueness and finding strength in one's individuality.

"There's only one you, and we want you to keep being you. So keep making a difference wherever you are." - Lori Adams Brown

Explore Shannan Copland's Empowering Music

Shannan Copland's music offers a powerful message of self-worth and authenticity, resonating with women seeking empowerment. Her songs embody a sense of liberation and encourage listeners to embrace their individuality. Through her music, Copland inspires her audience to recognize their value and celebrate their unique qualities.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing Shannon Copland and her Music

00:01:14 - Shannon's Musical Journey and Mentors

00:07:01 - The Pressure of Expectations and Self-Worth

00:09:33 - Empowering Women and Girls Through Music

00:13:18 - Overcoming Barriers as a Singer-Songwriter

00:15:14 - Exploring Cultural Perspectives on Beauty and Modesty

00:18:09 - Nuances of Modesty and Purity Culture

00:20:32 - The Larger Narrative of Shannan's Music

00:24:43 - Musical Influences on Shannan's Style

00:26:44 - Teaser of "Enough" and Closing Remarks

00:31:32 - Embracing Uniqueness

00:32:23 - Shannon's Music and Message

00:33:20 - Amplifying Shannon's Voice

00:34:27 - You Are Enough

00:35:35 - Keep Being You

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introducing Shannon Copland and her Music

Lori introduces Shannon and her upcoming release of a new song called "Enough" on April 12. Shannon's background in music and her passion for songwriting is also highlighted.

00:01:14 - Shannon's Musical Journey and Mentors

Shannon discusses her early interest in music, her studies, and the influential mentors she has worked with. She emphasizes the impact of her experiences on her musical journey.

00:07:01 - The Pressure of Expectations and Self-Worth

Shannon reflects on the pressure of meeting expectations in her religious upbringing and the importance of recognizing one's worth beyond external opinions. The impact of societal expectations on women and girls is also discussed.

00:09:33 - Empowering Women and Girls Through Music

Shannon shares the inspiration behind her song "Enough" and the message of self-empowerment and worth it conveys. She discusses the hope of empowering future generations of women through her music.

00:13:18 - Overcoming Barriers as a Singer-Songwriter

Shannon opens up about the internal and external barriers she faces as a songwriter, including self-doubt and the pressure of image management. She emphasizes the importance of living authentically and embracing one's true self.

00:15:14 - Exploring Cultural Perspectives on Beauty and Modesty

Shannan discusses her experiences in Italy and how it shed light on cultural perspectives on beauty and modesty, challenging her upbringing and beliefs.

00:18:09 - Nuances of Modesty and Purity Culture

Shannan and Lori talk about the different nuances of modesty and purity culture within different cultures and religions, highlighting the complexity of the topic even within the United States.

00:20:32 - The Larger Narrative of Shannan's Music

Shannan shares that "Enough" is a powerful anthem within her music, aimed at inspiring and empowering listeners. She also discusses her other upcoming songs, each with a specific theme and emotional impact.

00:24:43 - Musical Influences on Shannan's Style

Shannan talks about her vocal similarities to Carrie Jo and her love for Celine Dion and rock bands like Maroon 5 and Coldplay, which have influenced her music and style.

00:26:44 - Teaser of "Enough" and Closing Remarks

Shannan gives a teaser of the song "Enough" and Lori expresses her gratitude for Shannan's impactful music and the transformational journey that has shaped her as an artist.

00:31:32 - Embracing Uniqueness

Lori emphasizes the importance of embracing our uniqueness and bringing our true selves to the world. She highlights the uniqueness of individuals, including her own twins, and encourages listeners to recognize their own value and contribution.

00:32:23 - Shannon's Music and Message

Lori discusses Shannon's upcoming song release and the empowering message it carries. She encourages listeners to be among the first to access the song and share it with others, emphasizing Shannon's authenticity and the impact of her lyrics.

00:33:20 - Amplifying Shannon's Voice

Lori expresses her excitement for releasing Shannon's music and amplifying her voice. She emphasizes Shannon's deep thinking, caring nature, and the inspiration her music provides, encouraging listeners to add Shannon to their playlists.

00:34:27 - You Are Enough

Lori reiterates the message of worthiness and human dignity, emphasizing the importance of self-acceptance and respect for others. She encourages listeners to embrace their uniqueness and make a positive difference in the world by being themselves.

00:35:35 - Keep Being You

Lori concludes by reinforcing the significance of being true to oneself and making a difference simply by being authentic. She encourages listeners to continue embracing their uniqueness and contributing positively to the world.

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Unlearning silence isn't just about finding your voice; it's about recognizing the ways we've all been complicit in silencing others. And the surprising insights from a Harvard lecturer will have you rethinking the impact of silence in your world. Join the conversation to uncover the hidden ways we contribute to silence and discover how to foster inclusive communication. It's time to unlearn the silence that holds us back. Stay tuned for the unexpected wisdom that will leave you reevaluating your role in creating a more inclusive world.

My special guest is Elaine Lin Hering.

Elaine Lin Hering is a renowned facilitator, speaker, and writer with extensive experience in communication, collaboration, and conflict management. Drawing from her background as a former managing partner of Triad Consulting Group and a lecturer at Harvard Law School, Elaine's expertise spans across various industries and continents, working with corporate, government, and nonprofit clients. Her personal journey as an immigrant from Taiwan to the United States adds a unique perspective to her work, diving deep into the impact of cultural differences on communication and strategies for inclusive leadership. With her compelling insights and vulnerability, Elaine's book, Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully, resonates with individuals seeking to navigate the complexities of silence and voice in personal and professional growth.

In what ways are the often very well-intentioned people around me, such as my manager, who in their heart of hearts wants to support me, actually silencing me? - Elaine Lin Hering

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Embrace the power of inclusive communication and unlearn silence in professional environments.
  • Enhance your communication and collaboration skills to foster a more inclusive work environment.
  • Explore the impact of cultural differences on communication and how it influences team dynamics.
  • Discover effective strategies for inclusive leadership and building stronger team dynamics.
  • Understand the role of silence in personal and professional growth, and how it can positively impact your workplace interactions.

Embrace the Power of Inclusive Communication

Inclusive communication in professional environments is essential for fostering a sense of belonging and diversity. By embracing diverse voices and perspectives, teams can collaborate more effectively and achieve better results. Creating a space where everyone feels heard and valued cultivates a positive work culture and promotes innovation.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Join the Difference Maker Community at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to access exclusive episodes and support the show for as little as $5 a month.
  • Follow Lori Adams-Brown on Twitter @loriadbr and on Instagram @loriadamsbrown to stay connected and share your suggestions for future guests on the show.
  • Check out Elaine Lin Hering's book Unlearning How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully to gain deeper insights into unlearning silence and fostering a more inclusive environment.
  • Consider reaching out to Lori Adams-Brown to share your stories and experiences, as well as to suggest individuals who are making a difference and could be featured on the podcast.
  • Explore the wisdom and advice shared by Elaine Lin Hering in the exclusive episode available in the Difference Maker Community, where she provides insights on self-care, resilience, and navigating challenging spaces.

Being explicit doesn't mean that you have to be direct. Being explicit means, 'Oh, read the air. That's what is happening here. Can we name it?' - Elaine Lin Hering

Explore Impact of Cultural Differences

Understanding the impact of cultural differences on communication is crucial for creating inclusive work environments. By acknowledging and respecting diverse cultural backgrounds, teams can leverage unique perspectives and insights to drive innovation. Embracing cultural diversity fosters mutual understanding, strengthens relationships, and promotes a more inclusive and harmonious workplace.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to Unlearning Silence

00:01:50 - Elaine's Background and Immigrant Experience

00:05:02 - Defining Silence

08:03 - Internalized Messages and Reflective Habits

00:13:58 - Understanding Voice

00:15:03 - Understanding Different Communication Styles

00:17:34 - Impact of Organizational Silence

00:20:52 - The Real Cost of Speaking Up

00:23:59 - Encouraging Voice at the Table

00:28:57 - Unlearning Silence

00:29:58 - Unlearning Silence

00:31:14 - Three Levers of Voice

00:34:30 - Cross-Cultural Communication

00:39:38 - Role of Silence

00:45:25 - The Power of Unlearning

00:46:29 - The Impact of Silence

00:48:04 - Personal Stories of Silencing

00:49:49 - Co-Creating the Podcast

00:52:26 - Self-Compassion and Making a Difference

The question is not, am I a good or bad person for doing that, but am I having the impact that I want? Am I aligned in how I think I'm showing up and how I'm actually showing up? - Elaine Lin Hering

Enhance Communication and Collaboration Skills

Improving communication and collaboration skills is key to overcoming challenges related to silence and voice in the workplace. By honing these skills, individuals can navigate cultural differences, build stronger relationships, and work together more productively. Effective communication lays the foundation for successful teamwork and organizational growth.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to Unlearning Silence

Lori introduces the podcast and guest Elaine Lynn Herring, highlighting her impactful book "Unlearning How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully". Elaine's personal background and professional experience are mentioned, setting the stage for the conversation.

00:01:50 - Elaine's Background and Immigrant Experience

Elaine shares her immigrant background from Taiwan to the United States, highlighting the cultural and societal influences that shaped her relationship with silence. The impact of patriarchal culture and the Christian church on her upbringing is discussed.

00:05:02 - Defining Silence

Elaine provides a nuanced definition of silence, distinguishing between the value of reflective silence and the detrimental impact of silencing oneself in communication and relationships. The societal, cultural, and personal factors contributing to silence are explored.

08:03 - Internalized Messages and Reflective Habits

Elaine reflects on the messages and reflective habits she internalized about speaking and being heard, both personally and professionally. The challenges of navigating individualistic and collectivist societies, as well as the impact of cultural, gender, and societal norms on voice and silence, are discussed.

00:13:58 - Understanding Voice

Elaine emphasizes that voice extends beyond verbal communication, encompassing how individuals move through the world and express their unique perspectives. The importance of embracing diverse communication styles and perspectives for fostering innovation and inclusivity in teams and organizations is highlighted.

00:15:03 - Understanding Different Communication Styles

Elaine discusses how individuals process information differently and how communication flows can be designed to accommodate different styles, allowing for all voices to be heard.

00:17:34 - Impact of Organizational Silence

Elaine shares her experience of feeling silenced in a previous hostile work environment and discusses the societal and systemic factors that contribute to organizational silence.

00:20:52 - The Real Cost of Speaking Up

Elaine delves into the real costs of speaking up, including the impact on mental and emotional health, and the societal phenomena of collective silence.

00:23:59 - Encouraging Voice at the Table

Elaine offers practical strategies for managers and parents to encourage people to bring their voices to the table, including designing communication patterns, using standard questions, and listening across differences.

00:28:57 - Unlearning Silence

Elaine emphasizes the importance of being cognizant of the role that silence plays in our interactions, and the ongoing journey of unlearning silence in order to create space for all voices to be heard.

00:29:58 - Unlearning Silence

Elaine and Lori discuss the importance of unlearning silence and recognize the value of speaking up. They emphasize the need for individuals to be aware of their unique perspectives and to contribute to substance, relationship, and process in conversations.

00:31:14 - Three Levers of Voice

Elaine explains the concept of the three levers of voice, which are substance, relationship, and process. She highlights the impact of these levers on communication patterns and the importance of recognizing different perspectives in discussions.

00:34:30 - Cross-Cultural Communication

Elaine and Lori delve into the topic of cross-cultural communication, referencing Erin Meyer's "The Culture Map." They discuss the differences in communication styles across cultures and the need to explicitly address and understand these differences in diverse settings.

00:39:38 - Role of Silence

Elaine offers a call to action for individuals in positions of power to observe the role of silence in their teams. She emphasizes the importance of being neutral and honest in assessing the impact of silence and encourages readers to read her book for further guidance on recognizing and addressing silence in their environments.

00:45:25 - The Power of Unlearning

Lori talks about how much she learned from Elaine's book, emphasizing the title "unlearning" as a process. She expresses excitement for the journey of unlearning and belonging.

00:46:29 - The Impact of Silence

Lori reflects on the impact of silence in different spaces, including faith communities, corporate environments, and journalism. She highlights the importance of knowing when to speak and when to be silent.

00:48:04 - Personal Stories of Silencing

Lori shares how listeners have reached out to her with their stories of being silenced in their workplaces or faith communities. She expresses gratitude for being a space where they can share their experiences.

00:49:49 - Co-Creating the Podcast

Lori encourages listeners to reach out to her with suggestions for guests and expresses the impact of the community in deepening the conversations. She also invites listeners to join the difference maker community on Patreon.

00:52:26 - Self-Compassion and Making a Difference

Lori ends the podcast with a message of self-compassion and kindness, emphasizing the importance of each person's voice and the value they bring to the world. She encourages listeners to keep making a difference.

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Did you know that the Equal Rights Amendment, aimed at guaranteeing equal rights regardless of sex, has not yet been enshrined in the US Constitution? It's a surprising reality, especially when considering the global efforts for women's equality. In this episode, we'll uncover the resilience, setbacks, and ongoing advocacy surrounding the ERA in the United States, while also delving into the international bill of rights for women known as CEDAW. But here's the kicker - despite strides made through international efforts, disparities persist, underscoring the need for continued advocacy and support. Join us as we unravel the surprising history and explore what can be done to champion gender equality. This is a call to action for making a real difference in the fight for women's rights. Stay tuned for an eye-opening revelation that will spark your curiosity and inspire you to take action.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the transformative benefits of therapy for personal growth and empowerment.
  • Uncover the profound impact and historical significance of the Equal Rights Amendment.
  • Explore the global efforts and impact of CEDAW in advancing women's equality worldwide.
  • Learn about the pivotal role of grassroots campaigns in driving political movements for gender equality.
  • Understand the vital importance of voting for advocates of gender equality in creating lasting change.

It's time. It's 2024, and all these other countries around the world have signed the CEDAW agreement, and the United States still hasn't. And also, we don't have an ERA for our own constitution, so what can we do? - Lori Adams Brown

Global efforts of CEDAW

The Convention on the Elimination of all forms of discrimination against women (CEDAW) is an international treaty that aims to end discrimination against women in all forms. Global efforts under CEDAW highlight the importance of gender equality and the need for legislative measures to protect and promote women's rights. Supporting CEDAW initiatives can contribute to creating a more just and equal society for all individuals.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit www.betterhelp.com/difference to get 10% off your first month of therapy.
  • Donate to Justice Revival at www.justicerevival.org/donate to contribute to initiatives aimed at advancing gender equality, including efforts to promote the ratification of the ERA and uphold the principles of CEDAW.
  • Join the #Faith4ERA campaign at Justice Revival with any faith community to bring your experience and perspective around the movement for women's rights.
  • Join the Difference Maker community at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifferences to access exclusive episodes, interact with exclusive posts, share your thoughts, and influence the direction of the podcast.
  • Support organizations dedicated to the cause of gender equality, such as Justice Revival, by donating and standing in solidarity with women everywhere to ensure that the promise of equality becomes a reality for all.

Human rights, women's rights, which are human rights, is so important. There's a lot of things we can get wrong, but that should just be a basic foundation. - Lori Adams Brown

Impactful Equal Rights Amendment

The Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) in the US aims to constitutionally guarantee equal rights under the law for all genders. Despite facing hurdles and delays, the ERA remains critical in advancing gender equality and ensuring fair treatment for all individuals. Advocating for the ratification of the ERA is essential to promoting equal rights and opportunities for women and girls.

Together, we can come together with our differences, male allies, women on behalf of our daughters and granddaughters and future generations, but also for us now. - Lori Adams Brown

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and ERA

00:02:29 - The History of the ERA

00:06:06 - Global Efforts for Gender Equality

00:09:12 - Overcoming Obstacles and Call to Action

00:13:42 - Faith for ERA Campaign

00:14:59 - Call to Action for Women's Rights

00:15:46 - Enshrining Women and Girls' Rights

00:16:17 - Special Invitation to Join the Community

00:16:59 - Making a Positive Impact

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and ERA

00:02:29 - The History of the ERA

00:06:06 - Global Efforts for Gender Equality

00:09:12 - Overcoming Obstacles and Call to Action

00:13:42 - Faith for ERA Campaign

00:14:59 - Call to Action for Women's Rights

00:15:46 - Enshrining Women and Girls' Rights

00:16:17 - Special Invitation to Join the Community

00:16:59 - Making a Positive Impact

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If you're feeling like you're struggling to truly connect with others and make a significant impact as a leader, then you are not alone! The traditional approach of just speaking and not truly understanding others may not be yielding the results you desire. Instead of the impactful leadership and positive change you seek, you might be experiencing a lack of meaningful connections and a sense of frustration in your efforts to influence others.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Mastering the art of active listening to understand and connect with others on a deeper level.
  • Enhancing leadership skills through powerful and effective communication strategies.
  • Unveiling the impact of body language on successful and impactful global communication.
  • Implementing proven strategies to propel global podcast growth and reach a wider audience.
  • Harnessing the transformative power of empathy to drive positive social change on a global scale.

Listening to understand is not just a kindness, but it's actually a superpower for you as a leader, as someone with influence.

  • Lori Adams-Brown

Mastering the Art of Active Listening: Truly successful communication revolves around the power of active listening. This skill requires patience, humility, and a readiness to prioritize the narrative of others over personal agendas. When leveraged effectively, active listening can foster fruitful dialogues that enable empathy, mutual understanding, and growth.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Write down a call to action from this podcast and add it as your "plus one" for today. This could be a specific action or behavior that you want to implement based on what you've learned.
  • Tell someone else about your call to action from this podcast. Sharing it with someone else increases the likelihood of following through.
  • Message the host on social media and share what your call to action was from this podcast. This can help in being accountable and receiving feedback or encouragement.
  • Invest in yourself as a leader and influencer by learning how to listen to understand better. This could involve seeking out resources, courses, or workshops on active listening and empathy.
  • Keep making a difference wherever you are by actively practicing intentional, empathetic, and open-minded listening in your daily interactions.

When we hear each other and truly listen to understand, with our differences, we make better decisions, we make greater impact on all the things we're trying to make better in the world. - Lori Adams-Brown

Enhancing Leadership Through Communication: How one communicates as a leader significantly impacts their effectiveness. Central to this is the ability to listen with intent, as this enables better understanding of diverse perspectives and fosters empathetic collaborations. In honing this skill, leaders can transform their teams and communities, paving the way for progressive dialogue and change.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:01 - Introduction to the Power of Listening

00:02:05 - The Skill of Listening to Understand

00:06:59 - The Impact of Listening to Understand

00:10:05 - The Importance of Body Language in Communication

00:13:15 - The Power of Listening to Understand

00:14:07 - Imagine the Impact of Listening to Understand

00:15:34 - Harnessing the Superpower of Listening to Understand

00:15:55 - Taking Action and Making a Difference

00:16:54 - Making the World a Better Place

Imagine if our world leaders, our policymakers, and imagine our influencers embracing the superpower of listening to understand.

  • Lori Adams-Brown

Impact of Body Language: Communication transcends the use of verbal language, with body language accounting for a significant part of how messages are exchanged. Nuanced gestures, postures, and facial expressions often speak louder than words, providing insights into one's emotions and intentions. This underscores the need for leaders to be mindful of their body language to ensure constructive, empathetic communication.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:01 - Introduction to the Power of Listening

Lori introduces the podcast episode and emphasizes the importance of listening to understand in shaping our world and making a positive impact.

00:02:05 - The Skill of Listening to Understand

Lori delves into the skill of listening to understand and highlights the importance of paying attention in a world filled with distractions. She emphasizes the need to go beyond simply hearing words and to listen for facts, feelings, and values.

00:06:59 - The Impact of Listening to Understand

Lori discusses how listening to understand can lead to empathizing, suspending judgment, and asking clarifying questions. She emphasizes the importance of deeper relationships and making better decisions through truly listening and understanding others.

00:10:05 - The Importance of Body Language in Communication

Lori explores the significance of body language in communication, pointing out that it accounts for 55% of how we communicate. She highlights the complexities of navigating different cultures and the role of body language in diplomacy and effective leadership.

00:13:15 - The Power of Listening to Understand

Lori discusses how effective listening can lead to empathy, collaboration, and growth in leadership, diplomacy, and social change.

00:14:07 - Imagine the Impact of Listening to Understand

Lori emphasizes the transformative impact of listening to understand in global conflicts, social justice, climate change, and workplace environments.

00:15:34 - Harnessing the Superpower of Listening to Understand

Lori encourages listeners to cultivate the superpower of listening to understand and highlights the importance of diverse perspectives in solving global problems.

00:15:55 - Taking Action and Making a Difference

Lori motivates listeners to take action by writing down their call to action, sharing it with others, and investing in themselves as leaders and influencers.

00:16:54 - Making the World a Better Place

Lori concludes by thanking global listeners for joining the journey of exploration and emphasizes the importance of listening with intention, empathy, and an open mind for making a difference in the world.

For those who are different and want to make a difference.

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If you're feeling the weight of past trauma and struggling to find healing, then you are not alone! Many individuals have tried traditional methods of healing without finding the relief they seek. Instead of finding validation and empowerment through conventional means, there's a unique path to healing waiting to be discovered through creativity and art.

My special guest is Erin Hung

Erin Hung, an artist residing in Hong Kong, brings two decades of experience in the art and design space, collaborating with prominent global brands such as Chronicle Books, American Greetings, Liberty of London, and Selfridges. Her creative journey, spanning from illustration work to murals and community art, is intertwined with her deep commitment to advocacy. A graduate from Central St. Martins School of Art and Sotheby's Institute in London, Erin's practice now revolves around amplifying voices at the fringes, working closely with mental health organizations and NGOs like UNHCR. Her profound insight into the healing power of creativity, stemming from her own experiences with religious trauma, has led her to spearhead the social media movement "A to Z of trauma recovery," inviting survivors and marginalized communities to heal creatively together. With her compelling art and thoughtful advocacy, Erin is a beacon of inspiration and empowerment.

Therapy is not just for those who are in crisis, although it's definitely for that. But therapy is also a place where you're just stepping into your own skin, figuring out who you are, what it is you're offering to the world around us, and how you're making the world a better place. - Lori Adams Brown

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the transformative power of healing through creativity and art for personal growth and emotional well-being.
  • Uncover the impact of spiritual abuse on faith and explore ways to navigate and heal from this trauma.
  • Embrace the role of therapy as a catalyst for personal growth and self-discovery, unlocking your full potential.
  • Navigate the intricate layers of cultural and religious identity, finding empowerment and validation through self-exploration.
  • Experience the profound benefits of somatic practices for trauma recovery, fostering a deeper connection between mind and body.

Impact of Spiritual Abuse

Erin Hung shares her candid experiences of spiritual abuse within her faith community, highlighting an issue that is oftentimes overlooked or swept under the rug. Such experiences can cause an individual to internalize pain and shame, profoundly impacting their perceptions of self and their relationship with their faith. As Erin rightly emphasizes, acknowledging and addressing the impacts of spiritual abuse is crucial in the journey towards healing.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Follow Erin Hung on Instagram at @erinhung_studio to see her beautiful art and stay updated on her latest projects and movements.
  • Contribute to the A to Z of trauma recovery movement by using the hashtag #AtoZofTraumaRecovery on social media to share your own creative expressions and join the community of healing and support.
  • Explore the A to Z of trauma recovery hashtag on social media to view the diverse and impactful artwork and expressions shared by others in the community.
  • Engage in right brain activities such as art, creativity, and expression to process and heal from trauma, allowing yourself to explore your own creative impulses and find healing through artistic endeavors.
  • Reach out to Lori Adams-Brown to share your thoughts and experiences, and to connect with others who are navigating similar journeys of healing and recovery.

I think for people, when they say they are not creative or they're not artistically inclined, I want to try and be the person that brings that piece. That's like, maybe if I ignite this match, you might burn a fire. It might kindle a fire that could help you on your way. - Erin Hung

Transformative Power of Healing

Art has a powerful potential to heal, as guest Erin Hung explores in her personal journey of self-discovery and recovery. Channeling our creative impulses can serve as a means of processing personal experiences and finding solace, particularly when navigating trauma. As Erin notes, the exploration of art can foster empowerment, liberation, and ultimately, transformative healing.

If we don't answer to what the creative impulse or the thing that God put inside us and fully explore that, then it's very hard to imagine a way forward for ourselves and for the church. - Erin Hung

Role of Therapy as Catalyst

Therapy, particularly non-verbal modalities such as art and somatic body work, can act as a catalyst for trauma recovery. Erin Hung recounted how these therapeutic methods empowered her to process her personal traumas, finding a language for her experiences that words could not capture. As a creative outlet, therapy can enable an individual unparalleled self-expression, providing a pathway towards understanding, acceptance, and healing.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and Guest Erin Hung

00:02:41 - Erin's Journey as an Artist and Advocate

00:10:29 - Cultural Influence on Faith and Interpretation of Scriptures

00:14:28 - Decolonizing Scriptures and Cultural Identity

00:16:17 - Disentangling Cultural Norms and Global Conversations

00:18:23 - Understanding Family Trauma and Shame Culture

00:19:23 - Overcoming Shame and Sharing Personal Trauma

00:20:32 - Decolonizing Faith and Silence

00:21:10 - Healing Through Creativity and Somatic Work

00:27:47 - Experiencing Spiritual Abuse and Gaslighting

00:35:11 - Realization of Making a Difference

00:36:39 - Healing Through Creativity

00:39:39 - The Power of Creativity

00:42:41 - A to Z of Trauma Recovery

00:49:42 - Embracing Beauty and Joy

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and Guest Erin Hung

Lori introduces the podcast and guest Erin Hung, an artist living in Hong Kong, known for her illustration work, murals, and community art. Erin's background in the evangelical faith and her journey through religious trauma is also mentioned.

00:02:41 - Erin's Journey as an Artist and Advocate

Erin shares her upbringing in an evangelical family in Hong Kong, her experiences with art and faith, and the cultural pressures she faced as a creative individual within her community. She also discusses the intersection of her faith with her artistic sensibilities.

00:10:29 - Cultural Influence on Faith and Interpretation of Scriptures

Erin delves into the impact of cultural undertones in Chinese churches, specifically the concept of Filio piety and its influence on interpretation of biblical teachings. She reflects on the need to challenge traditional interpretations and explore diverse perspectives within the faith community.

00:14:28 - Decolonizing Scriptures and Cultural Identity

Erin discusses the concept of decolonizing scriptures and its relevance to her own faith experience, particularly in the context of being Chinese and the impact of colonization on cultural identity. She highlights the growing global conversation around colonization and the need for broader understanding.

00:16:17 - Disentangling Cultural Norms and Global Conversations

Erin shares her journey of disentangling cultural norms and understanding the broader historical and global conversations surrounding colonization. She emphasizes the importance of gaining a broader worldview to challenge entrenched cultural dynamics and promote

00:18:23 - Understanding Family Trauma and Shame Culture

Erin discusses the intergenerational trauma within families and the shame culture that perpetuates silence about taboo topics, making others uncomfortable and bringing shame onto oneself and the family.

00:19:23 - Overcoming Shame and Sharing Personal Trauma

Erin shares her openness about discussing personal childhood trauma, acknowledging the potential shame it brings to friends and family, and the collective nature of shame within the community.

00:20:32 - Decolonizing Faith and Silence

Erin delves into the intertwining of faith, church abuse, submission, and shame, highlighting the tendency to silence uncomfortable truths, sweep issues under the rug, and the challenges of decolonizing these ingrained dynamics.

00:21:10 - Healing Through Creativity and Somatic Work

Erin shares her journey of healing through somatic activities like art and gardening, emphasizing how these activities helped her process trauma and connect with her spirituality in a new way.

00:27:47 - Experiencing Spiritual Abuse and Gaslighting

Erin reflects on her experiences of spiritual abuse, gaslighting, and the struggle to find her voice within church settings, ultimately leading to her pursuit of therapy to gain clarity and language for unhealthy dynamics.

00:35:11 - Realization of Making a Difference

Erin reflects on her realization that making a difference does not depend on credentials. She shares her journey of trying to make a difference and the examination of why it wasn't working.

00:36:39 - Healing Through Creativity

Erin discusses her artistic expression as a means of healing. She shares her fear of not leaving a mark in the world and the importance of exploring creativity for healing and personal growth.

00:39:39 - The Power of Creativity

Erin emphasizes the importance of creativity in finding solutions and moving forward. She encourages people to explore their creative impulses and imaginations, highlighting the need for outside-the-box thinking.

00:42:41 - A to Z of Trauma Recovery

Erin introduces the A to Z of trauma recovery movement she started, emphasizing the inclusivity and diversity in the community. She shares how creative expression is a powerful tool for healing and processing trauma.

00:49:42 - Embracing Beauty and Joy

The host reflects on the importance of adding beauty, joy, and hope in life to build resilience in facing hard times. Erin's story serves as a reminder of the power of artistic expression in navigating life's challenges.

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Hey there, are you feeling disillusioned with modern Christianity? Have you been told to just accept the status quo and keep quiet about your doubts and concerns? It can be frustrating to feel like you're not getting the authentic experience you're seeking, especially when it comes to your faith. If you're tired of the ineffective advice to just go along with it, let's explore a better way to understand the history and context of early Christians that can revitalize your faith, whatever your faith background and bring new perspective to your journey. Let's dive into the compelling insights that can reignite your passion for authentic faith, even if that seems a little strange in your current religious context.

My special guest is Dr. Nijay Gupta

Dr. Nijay Gupta, a distinguished professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary, is widely recognized for his scholarly contributions to early Christian studies. Residing in Portland, Oregon, Dr. Gupta also serves as a co-host of the acclaimed Slow Theology podcast and is the founder of the influential Crux Sola blog. With an extensive repertoire of published works, including "Strange Religion," and "Tell Her Story," Dr. Gupta's comprehensive understanding of the historical and cultural context of early Christianity renders him a leading authority in the field. His latest book provides an insightful examination of the ways in which early Christians diverged from the prevalent religious and cultural norms of the Roman Empire, offering a compelling narrative that enriches our understanding of this pivotal era.

I want to believe that is a great and beautiful thing for anyone who feels like their movement has gone astray, whether it's a political movement, a religious movement, a social movement, we can always say, what are the good and beautiful and true things that made us who we are at the beginning? How can we come back to that now? - Dr. Nijay Gupta

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Embrace the uniqueness of early Christian teachings to deepen your understanding of faith and spirituality.
  • Experience a paradigm shift in your perception of religion by exploring the roots of early Christianity.
  • Explore the profound impact of early Christian theology on modern belief systems and moral values.
  • Challenge yourself to embody the concept of loving one's enemies and understand its significance in daily life.
  • Discover the importance of prioritizing self-care and well-being through the lens of early Christian teachings.

Experience a Paradigm Shift

The early Christian revolution led to a paradigm shift, moving from power-driven religious practices towards a focus on goodness and authenticity. It revolutionized societal perceptions, promoting a familial relationship with God over a hierarchical one. This shift redefined societal values, placing emphasis on the inherent dignity of every individual, thus influencing modern perceptions of self-worth and individual rights.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Check out Nijay Gupta's latest book Strange Religion: How Early Christians Contrasted with Roman Religion and Culture available from Brazos Press for a deep dive into the contrast between ancient and modern perspectives on Christianity.
  • Join the exclusive Difference Maker community on Patreon at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to access deeper conversations with guests like Nijay Gupta and enjoy exclusive content, including videos and interactions with the host.
  • Connect with Lori Adams-Brown at Podcast Movement Evolutions in LA at the end of March and attend her breakout session on having a global podcast.
  • Listen to the Slow Theology podcast co-hosted by Nijay Gupta and Dr. AJ Swoboda for discussions on deconstruction, faith, and navigating a complex world.
  • Engage with the World of Difference podcast by reaching out to Lori Adams-Brown on social media to share how the podcast has impacted your life and work.
  • Check out Nijay Gupta's latest book Strange Religion: How Early Christians Contrasted with Roman Religion and Culture available from Brazos Press for a deep dive into the contrast between ancient and modern perspectives on Christianity.
  • Join the exclusive Difference Maker community on Patreon at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to access deeper conversations with guests like Nijay Gupta and enjoy exclusive content, including videos and interactions with the host.
  • Connect with Lori Adams-Brown at Podcast Movement Evolutions in LA at the end of March and attend her breakout session on having a global podcast.
  • Listen to the Slow Theology podcast co-hosted by Nijay Gupta and Dr. AJ Swaboda for discussions on deconstruction, faith, and navigating a complex world.
  • Engage with the World of Difference podcast by reaching out to Lori Adams-Brown on social media to share how the podcast has impacted your life and work.

Let suffering speak for the atrocities that are done then and now in the name of Jesus by Christians who should know better. But there's so much in scripture that has done so many good things for the things we take for granted right now. - Dr. Nijay Gupta

Embrace the Uniqueness

Embracing the uniqueness of early Christianity involves accepting its inherent non-conformity, individuality, and authenticity. It requires acknowledging the contrast between early Christian ideals and the current negative perceptions that have tainted the contemporary church. This embrace urges us to strive for a return to the faith's original, 'weird' roots, without the distortions prevalent in current mega-church culture.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast

00:01:05 - Sponsorship and Therapy

00:01:27 - Introduction of Dr. Nijay Gupta

00:02:23 - The Concept of "Strange Religion,"

00:11:43 - Contrasting Ancient and Modern Religious Practices

00:14:24 - Early Christian Environment

00:17:29 - Religion in the Ancient World

00:19:47 - Gods and Fear

00:21:42 - Paradigm Shift

00:26:39 - Christianity's Evolution

00:29:47 - The Challenge of Loving Your Enemies

00:32:40 - Divisions and Unity

00:33:22 - Suspending Judgment

00:34:23 - Uncovering the Original Message

00:40:39 - The Impact of Early Christians

00:43:12 - Excitement for Podcast Movement Evolutions

00:43:36 - Meeting Listeners

00:43:56 - Gratitude and Encouragement

00:44:20 - Shoutout to Nijay Gupta

00:44:45 - Closing Remarks

Experience a Paradigm Shift

The early Christian revolution led to a paradigm shift, moving from power-driven religious practices towards a focus on goodness and authenticity. It revolutionized societal perceptions, promoting a familial relationship with God over a hierarchical one. This shift redefined societal values, placing emphasis on the inherent dignity of every individual, thus influencing modern perceptions of self-worth and individual rights.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast

Lori Adams Brown introduces the World of Difference podcast and its focus on those who are different and want to make a difference. The podcast is sponsored by Betterhelp, emphasizing the importance of therapy for personal growth and understanding strengths.

00:01:05 - Sponsorship and Therapy

Lori highlights the role of therapy in personal development and offers a 10% discount for Betterhelp. She encourages listeners to consider the benefits of talking to a professional about life's challenges and self-discovery.

00:01:27 - Introduction of Dr. Nijay Gupta

Lori introduces Dr. Nijay Gupta, a professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary, highlighting his expertise and previous works. She previews the discussion of his latest book, "Strange Religion," and its focus on early Christians contrasting with Roman culture.

00:02:23 - The Concept of "Strange Religion,"

Dr. Nijay Gupta explains the concept behind his book, "Strange Religion," drawing parallels between the unique individuality of Portland, Oregon, and the early Christians' commitment to a different way of living and beliefs. He emphasizes the need to rediscover the original, revolutionary essence of Christianity.

00:11:43 - Contrasting Ancient and Modern Religious Practices

Dr. Nijay Gupta discusses the differences between ancient Roman religion and modern Western views of religion. He highlights the public, obligatory, and practical nature of ancient Roman religion, contrasting it with the optional and personal approach often seen in modern

00:14:24 - Early Christian Environment

Dr. Nijay Gupta discusses the environment in which early Christians grew up, where religion was an obligation and a question of power and obedience to gods.

00:17:29 - Religion in the Ancient World

Gupta compares the saturation of religion in the ancient world to modern sports culture, highlighting the obligatory nature of religion during that time.

00:19:47 - Gods and Fear

Gupta explores the fear and power dynamics associated with the gods in the ancient world, and how early Christians rejected this paradigm by emphasizing a loving parental relationship with God.

00:21:42 - Paradigm Shift

The conversation delves into how early Christians shifted the religious paradigm from power and coercion to one of inherent dignity for all individuals, leading to a different socio-economic outlook.

00:26:39 - Christianity's Evolution

Gupta reflects on the need for Christianity to constantly evolve and change for the better, drawing inspiration from historical figures like Dietrich von Hoeffer and emphasizing the importance of returning to the core ideas of the faith.

00:29:47 - The Challenge of Loving Your Enemies

Dr. Nijay Gupta discusses the difficulty of Jesus' teaching to love your enemies and how it applies to our world today, especially in the face of political strife.

00:32:40 - Divisions and Unity

Dr. Gupta talks about how divisions exist not only in the political sphere but also in various parts of the world and emphasizes the importance of loving our enemies as a way to overcome these divisions and unite people.

00:33:22 - Suspending Judgment

The conversation delves into the challenge of suspending judgment, especially in today's society, and how it relates to the teachings of Jesus in the Bible.

00:34:23 - Uncovering the Original Message

Dr. Gupta shares the importance of revisiting the original teachings of Christianity and scripture, encouraging readers to look beyond the negative aspects and discover the timeless truths within.

00:40:39 - The Impact of Early Christians

The conversation concludes with a discussion on the impact of early Christians in history and how their values and ideals continue to influence social change and justice movements today.

00:43:12 - Excitement for Podcast Movement Evolutions

Lori shares her excitement for attending Podcast Movement Evolutions in LA and meeting up with listeners. She mentions the opportunity to meet Amy Poehler and her previous experience of hearing will Ferrell.

00:43:36 - Meeting Listeners

Lori expresses her eagerness to meet listeners of the podcast at the event and encourages them to come up and say hi. She values connecting with her audience and appreciates their support.

00:43:56 - Gratitude and Encouragement

Lori expresses gratitude to the listeners for taking the time to tune in and emphasizes the importance of self-care. She encourages everyone to keep making a difference in their own way, wherever they are.

00:44:20 - Shoutout to Nijay Gupta

Lori acknowledges Dr. Nijay Gupta and his perspective shared in the conversation, thanking him for his insights and contribution to the episode.

00:44:45 - Closing Remarks

Lori wraps up the episode with a reminder of the value each listener holds and encourages them to continue making a positive impact in the world.

Impactful Theology

Early Christian theology was transformative, marking a stark departure from the ancient Roman religious practices and fostering a culture of empathy and love. The teachings of Jesus, particularly those focused on love and compassion towards one’s enemies, remains relevant even in today's divisive world. Through a careful examination of our attitudes towards others, especially those with differing ideologies, we can more fully embody these teachings, fostering social transformation and bringing about meaningful change.

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Hey, have you ever felt like you're trying to do the right thing in your business, but it just feels like too much? Like you want to merge profit with purpose, but it seems overwhelming. You're not alone. Many leaders struggle with this, and it can lead to burnout and exhaustion. Let's tackle this together and find a way to align your values with your business practices without feeling overwhelmed.

My special guest is Bessi Graham

Today, we are honored to have Bessi Graham as our guest on the show, joining us from Melbourne, Australia. Bessi is a highly respected entrepreneur with over two decades of experience working closely with business owners, government entities, and major funding bodies. Her extensive involvement ranges from grassroots initiatives with business owners in the Pacific Islands to impactful contributions at the United Nations headquarters in Geneva. Bessi's unparalleled perspective and deep understanding of merging profit and purpose have made her a sought-after authority in the realm of ethical and sustainable business practices. Her commitment to guiding individuals in aligning their values with their business endeavors has led to the creation of impactful legacies. With her wealth of experience in ethical and purpose-driven enterprises, Bessi brings invaluable insights to our discussion today.

I think regardless of where your leadership position is in the organization, it's starting with those pieces of where do I have decision making control, or at least some influence, and then how do I shape things from there towards this idea of business where we're unapologetically pursuing both? - Bessi Graham

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover how to merge profit and purpose for a more sustainable business model.
  • Explore the importance of authentic leadership values in driving organizational success.
  • Learn the benefits of embracing diversity in decision-making processes for better business outcomes.
  • Humanize your leadership style to create a more inclusive and empowering workplace environment.
  • Find out how to effectively balance profit with social impact for a meaningful and successful business.

Diversity in decision-making

Diversity fuels creativity, fosters a broader perspective, and aids in making more informed decisions. Bessi advocates for diverse perspectives in decision-making processes and leadership roles, believing it leads to a more inclusive and effective work environment. She stresses the value of stepping out of one's comfort zone to gain a deeper understanding of various contexts, making decision-making a shared and holistic process.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit Bessi Graham's website at Bessigraham.com to learn more about her work and access valuable resources.
  • Download a free resource from Bessi Graham's website that includes five essential questions for decisive leaders to gain clarity on important decisions.
  • Join the Patreon community at www.patreon.com/aWorldofDifference to access an exclusive interview with Bessi Graham, where she delves deeper into self-leadership and resilience for leaders.

You need to apprentice with the problem. Don't just assume you understand something. Don't think that good intentions are good enough. - Bessi Graham

Authentic leadership values

Leadership, as per Bessi, should echo authentic values. It is important that leaders' actions align with their stated values to build trust, credibility, and influence. Moreover, these values should inform decision-making processes ensuring organisational integrity and fostering a culture of honesty and transparency.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Bridging Profit and Purpose

00:06:49 - Impact of Living Abroad

00:10:14 - Humanizing Leadership

00:14:06 - Influence of Values

00:15:14 - Meaningful Values

00:16:04 - The Importance of Core Values

00:17:10 - Aligning Values with Action

00:18:11 - Core Values in Organizations

00:19:03 - Decision Cascade and Clarity

00:25:00 - Bridging Systemic and Grassroots Perspectives

00:31:08 - Apprenticing with the Problem

00:36:17 - Balancing Purpose and Profit

00:39:57 - Shaping Decision-Making

00:42:19 - Purpose and Opportunity

00:43:44 - Connecting with Bessie

00:45:55 - Learning from Experience

00:46:32 - Resilience and Self-Leadership

00:47:07 - Taking a Break without Compromising Impact

00:47:45 - Embracing Individuality

We need to hold these two. This goes back to your both and mindset. Right. So as a leader, being able to hold two things that seem contradictory and say they're equally true. - Bessi Graham

Merge profit and purpose

Bessi Graham emphasizes that profitability and purpose are not mutually exclusive. One can create a business model that aligns with personal values, promotes social impact, and ensures financial success. The trick lies in understanding customer value, and in finding ways to create and capture said value while benefiting society.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Bridging Profit and Purpose

Bessie discusses the importance of merging money and meaning in business. She emphasizes the need for leaders to uncover their unconscious beliefs about the purpose of business and how it impacts decision-making.

00:06:49 - Impact of Living Abroad

Bessie shares how her experiences living in different countries shaped her perspective as a leader. She highlights the value of diverse perspectives and the importance of intentionally seeking out different viewpoints in leadership.

00:10:14 - Humanizing Leadership

Bessie delves into the concept of humanizing leadership and the need to treat employees as more than just cogs in a wheel. She emphasizes the importance of integrating purpose into business decisions and creating a more holistic approach to leadership.

00:14:06 - Influence of Values

Bessie discusses the influence of values on decision-making as a leader. She emphasizes the need for leaders to understand and articulate their values, and how values drive behavior in business settings.

00:15:14 - Meaningful Values

Bessie explores the deeper meaning of values in business and challenges the superficial approach often taken. She emphasizes the importance of values as a guiding force in decision-making and living authentically as a leader.

00:16:04 - The Importance of Core Values

Bessi discusses the significance of identifying and living by core values. She emphasizes intentionally cultivating conditions that allow individuals to live in alignment with their values, leading to better decision-making and natural best performance.

00:17:10 - Aligning Values with Action

Bessi emphasizes the need for values to inform decision-making and actions. She highlights the importance of having values as filters for decision-making, particularly in fast-paced environments, to maintain integrity and alignment.

00:18:11 - Core Values in Organizations

Bessi stresses the need for clarity in company core values, cautioning against superficial or simplistic lists. She emphasizes the importance of aligning values with behavior and action, not just as aspirational values, to build trust and integrity within the organization.

00:19:03 - Decision Cascade and Clarity

Bessi introduces the concept of the decision cascade as a tool for unlocking clarity and decisiveness, particularly around values. She explains how breaking down decisions into primary, secondary, and tertiary levels can lead to smoother decision-making and prevent costly missteps.

00:25:00 - Bridging Systemic and Grassroots Perspectives

Bessi shares her experiences working at both grassroots and systemic levels, emphasizing the importance of understanding broader systems while still being connected to the ground reality. She highlights the value of expanding perspectives to bridge different worlds and drive innovation in leadership.

00:31:08 - Apprenticing with the Problem

Bessie shares Pamela Hardigan's advice to "apprentice with the problem," emphasizing curiosity, asking questions, and having conversations rather than assuming we know best. She also highlights the importance of holding seemingly contradictory ideas in our minds and working towards a balance.

00:36:17 - Balancing Purpose and Profit

Bessie discusses how many leaders feel overwhelmed by the idea of adding purpose to their business, seeing it as a distraction or expense. She challenges this perspective, encouraging leaders to merge money and meaning by pursuing competitive advantages that add value and relieve pressure.

00:39:57 - Shaping Decision-Making

Bessie emphasizes the importance of shaping decisions and influencing outcomes, even for middle managers. She encourages leaders to create psychologically safe spaces for their teams, shape how directives are shared, and cultivate a culture of unapologetically pursuing both purpose and profit.

00:42:19 - Purpose and Opportunity

Bessie speaks about the belief that money and meaning can be merged, leading to a self-reinforcing loop of delivering and capturing value. She encourages leaders to shift their perspective, innovate in their business models, and create win-win situations that relieve pressure and stress.

00:43:44 - Connecting with Bessie

Lori thanks Bessie for sharing her unique perspective and encourages listeners to visit Bessie's website for more resources and insights. Bessie offers a free download of five essential questions

00:45:55 - Learning from Experience

Lori discusses the value of sharing knowledge and learning from others, highlighting Bessi Graham's extensive experience working at the UN headquarters and in diverse locations like the Pacific islands and Melbourne, Australia.

00:46:32 - Resilience and Self-Leadership

The conversation delves into the importance of resilience and self-leadership, offering insights on how to navigate difficult circumstances and make congruent decisions to alleviate burnout.

00:47:07 - Taking a Break without Compromising Impact

Lori emphasizes the significance of taking breaks and self-care while continuing to make a difference in the world, encouraging listeners to stay true to themselves and bring their unique contributions to the table.

00:47:45 - Embracing Individuality

The episode concludes with a reminder to embrace individuality and show up authentically, highlighting the importance of being true to oneself and making a difference in the world. Lori urges listeners to take care of themselves and continue making an impact.

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Uncover the unexpected impact of the Trump campaign on the evangelical community as NPR journalist Sarah McCammon shares her personal journey. Her book delves into the complex experiences of those navigating a transition away from evangelicalism, offering a raw and empathetic perspective. Join us as we explore the surprising insights and vulnerabilities that shape this compelling narrative. Stay tuned for a revealing conversation that will leave you with a fresh perspective and a newfound appreciation for diverse religious experiences.

My special guest is Sarah McCammon

Sarah McCammon, a national political correspondent for NPR and co-host of the NPR Politics podcast, is recognized for her extensive coverage of political, social, and cultural divisions in America, specifically delving into the intersections of politics and religion, reproductive rights, and the conservative movement. With past experience as NPR's lead political reporter during the 2016 election cycle, assigned to the Donald Trump campaign, she offers a comprehensive understanding of the impact of Trumpism on evangelical communities. Her upcoming book, "The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church," draws from her personal background growing up in white evangelicalism in the Midwest, providing a firsthand perspective on the subject matter. Sarah McCammon's authoritative insights, coupled with her personal experiences, contribute a significant and authentic viewpoint to the discussion.

Don't be afraid of questions. Try to find trusted people, whether that's people in your church or outside of it, people who are of goodwill and that love you and tell them what you're thinking about. - Sarah McCammon

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Unpacking the challenges of an evangelical upbringing - understanding the complexities and impact on personal identity.
  • Exploring the influence of Trumpism on evangelical communities, shedding light on shifting ideologies and values.
  • Understanding the evolving demographics of American Christianity and its implications for society and culture.
  • Embracing inclusivity and diversity in religious spaces, fostering a sense of belonging and understanding for all individuals.
  • Analyzing the role of media in shaping evangelical narratives, providing insight into the power of storytelling and representation.

Evolving Demographics of American Christianity

The landscape of American Christianity is undergoing a marked transformation, with shifts in demographics and the growing influence of social media. As Sarah emphasizes, these changes may result in a more liberal, secular, and diverse religious demographic. Recognizing and embracing these shifts is crucial for evolving religious spaces and fostering inclusivity and diversity within such communities.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

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  • Join the Difference Makers community on Patreon to access exclusive, in-depth conversations with guests like Sarah McCammon, where you can engage with others and learn how to make a difference together.
  • Engage with Sarah McCammon's work and share your thoughts on her book, her insights, and the topics discussed in the podcast to continue the conversation and contribute to making a difference.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the World of Difference podcast

00:00:44 - Benefits of Therapy and Betterhelp

00:01:17 - Introduction of Sarah McCammon

00:02:27 - Sarah McCammon's Background and Book

00:03:00 - Personal Vulnerability in Writing

00:14:09 - Finding Inner Strength

00:16:34 - Impact of Trump Narrative

00:19:52 - Pressure for Perfectionism

00:23:08 - Understanding Exvangelical

00:27:43 - Impact of Evangelical Movement

00:28:58 - Rise of the Nones and Impact on Politics

00:29:36 - Factors Contributing to Change

00:30:15 - Church Response and Criticism

00:32:24 - Intimate Perspectives and Voices

00:35:22 - Inclusivity and Diverse Perspectives

00:43:25 - The Impact of Gen Z in the Election

00:44:25 - Future of Exvangelical Movement

00:46:08 - Evolving Religious Spaces

00:47:28 - Connecting with Sarah

00:48:23 - Sarah's Writing and Impact

I think it's okay to pray anytime you want. And I don't think you have to know exactly what you think about that. - Sarah McCammon

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the World of Difference podcast

Host Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast as a platform for those who are different and want to make a difference. She also mentions the podcast's sponsor, Betterhelp, and the benefits of therapy for personal growth and self-discovery.

00:00:44 - Benefits of Therapy and Betterhelp

Brown discusses the benefits of therapy for personal growth, self-discovery, and mental well-being. She highlights the role of therapy in understanding oneself and making a positive impact on the world. Lori Adams-Brown also promotes Betterhelp as a resource for professional therapy.

00:01:17 - Introduction of Sarah McCammon

Brown introduces Sarah McCammon as a national political correspondent for NPR and co-host of the NPR Politics podcast. She outlines McCammon's work focusing on political, social, and cultural divides in America, including the intersections of politics and religion, reproductive rights, and the conservative movement.

00:02:27 - Sarah McCammon's Background and Book

Brown discusses McCammon's upcoming book, "The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church," highlighting McCammon's personal experience growing up in white evangelicalism in the Midwest. Brown also mentions McCammon's diverse media appearances and her current residence in Norfolk, Virginia.

00:03:00 - Personal Vulnerability in Writing

Brown and McCammon discuss the personal vulnerability of writing about one's experiences, with McCammon sharing her

00:14:09 - Finding Inner Strength

Sarah shares a spiritual moment of finding inner strength in a challenging situation outside the church. She discusses the evangelical expectation of spiritual moments and the concept of loving one's enemies.

00:16:34 - Impact of Trump Narrative

Sarah discusses how the Trump narrative of labeling reporters as the worst people has affected the perception of evangelical whistleblowers reporting spiritual or sexual abuse in churches. She highlights the importance of criticisms from within the evangelical community.

00:19:52 - Pressure for Perfectionism

Sarah reflects on the intense pressure for perfectionism and behavior management of children within evangelical spiritual formation. She shares her experience of feeling the responsibility to be a witness for Jesus through her family's appearance and behavior.

00:23:08 - Understanding Exvangelical

Sarah explains the term "exvangelical" and addresses misconceptions about the group being exclusively non-religious or secular. She emphasizes the common experience of stepping away from evangelicalism and the complexity of the journey.

00:27:43 - Impact of Evangelical Movement

Sarah discusses the well-established impact of the evangelical movement on American politics and society. She also explores the broader societal and cultural impact of the exvangelical movement, highlighting its role in the larger shift away from religion.

00:28:58 - Rise of the Nones and Impact on Politics

The conversation delves into the growing demographic of the Nones and its potential impact on American politics, as well as the erosion of the Republican base and the rise of a more liberal and secular movement.

00:29:36 - Factors Contributing to Change

Demographic changes, social media, and the impact of Trumpism are discussed as factors contributing to the shift in evangelicalism and Christianity, with implications for both politics and culture.

00:30:15 - Church Response and Criticism

The conversation explores the responses of churches and prominent pastors to the move away from evangelicalism, as well as the criticism from Christian evangelical thinkers and the need for churches to become more open to diverse points of view.

00:32:24 - Intimate Perspectives and Voices

The dialogue emphasizes the value of intimate perspectives and granular insights from individuals raised in the evangelical world, shedding light on experiences and perspectives often overlooked in academic conversations.

00:35:22 - Inclusivity and Diverse Perspectives

The conversation highlights the need for inclusivity and the elevation of voices of people of color and women in evangelical spaces, as well as the potential impact on shaping priorities, theology, and perspectives on scriptures.

00:43:25 - The Impact of Gen Z in the Election

The conversation begins with a focus on Gen Z's influence on the upcoming election and their diverse upbringing in the digital age, reflecting on the changes happening in society.

00:44:25 - Future of Exvangelical Movement

Sarah discusses the challenges faced by younger exvangelicals in forming their own religious identity and the need for more inclusive religious spaces. She also explores potential future trends in an increasingly diverse and secularized society.

00:46:08 - Evolving Religious Spaces

The discussion shifts to the evolution of religious spaces, with a particular focus on churches genuinely welcoming non-traditional beliefs and the need for meaningful connections in an evolving society.

00:47:28 - Connecting with Sarah

Sarah shares her presence on various social media platforms, emphasizing her engagement with Substack for more nuanced conversations and insights into her life as a journalist and a mother.

00:48:23 - Sarah's Writing and Impact

The conversation concludes with a focus on Sarah's impactful writing, her vulnerability in exploring personal narratives, and the importance of amplifying her voice and perspective in the media and journalism industry.

I think there's something like that, particularly in an increasingly diverse and secularized society. I think people are always going to need connection and look for meaning, but where they find it, I think might change a little bit. - Sarah McCammon

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Want to learn the key to supporting survivors of sexual assault and making a real difference in their lives? Rowena Chiu shares her powerful insights and experiences, shedding light on the path to understanding and supporting survivors. Stay tuned to discover how you can be a part of the change and make a positive impact in the lives of survivors.

My special guest is Rowena Chiu

It's an absolute pleasure to introduce Rowena Chiu, an extraordinary survivor and advocate joining us today. Rowena's journey, from being an assistant to Miramax CEO Harvey Weinstein to bravely sharing her experience of sexual assault, is nothing short of inspiring. Her powerful voice has not only contributed to the #MeToo movement but has also sparked crucial conversations about power dynamics and influence in sexual assault cases. With a rich cultural heritage and a global perspective, Rowena brings a unique blend of insight and empathy to the table. Her unwavering commitment to advocating for survivors and fostering change makes her an invaluable voice in our ongoing dialogue about abuse. We're truly privileged to have her with us today.

Rowena Chiu worked as Assistant To Harvey Weinstein in 1998. After leaving the film industry, she has worked in the fields of management consulting (for Accenture in London, McKinsey & Company in Silicon Valley, and PricewaterhouseCoopers in Hong Kong) and international development (for the World Bank in Ethiopia, South Sudan & Washington DC). Rowena holds an MA in English Language & Literature from the University of Oxford, an MSc in International Management For China from the University of London, and an MBA from London Business School. She lives in Silicon Valley with her husband and four young children and is currently working on a memoir and a screenplay about her experiences in the film industry.

"Sit with a survivor. Hear their story, acknowledge their grief. Let them own that space. Give them the space to talk about it. Say all the things that Lori was gracious enough and kind enough to say just now. 'I believe you. I'm here for you. I will listen for as long as it takes for you to come out with your story. I will be that safe space for you.'" - Rowena Chiu

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore effective strategies for advocating for sexual assault survivors.
  • Discover the importance of cultural sensitivity in addressing sexual assault.
  • Understand power dynamics and influence in sexual assault cases.
  • Uncover the impact of media portrayal on sexual assault survivors.
  • Learn how to create a trauma-informed and survivor-centric society.

Address with cultural sensitivity

Understanding cultural nuances can deeply impact how we approach conversations about sexual assault. For instance, in cultures that value collectivism like Rowena Chiu's Chinese background, the individualistic approach often adopted in the West of isolated support may not be as effective. Instead, broader family and social context need to be taken into account, which demands a healthy dose of cultural sensitivity when providing support or addressing potential impediments to speaking out.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Join the Patreon community called Difference Makers at www.patreon.com/aWorldofDifference to watch the exclusive video episode where Lori Adams-Brown and Rowena Chiu discuss organizations that Rowena supports and get a call to action to make a difference together.
  • Follow Rowena Chiu on social media platforms such as LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram to stay updated on her speaking engagements, advocacy work, and upcoming memoir.
  • Reach out to Lori Adams-Brown on Twitter at @LoriAdBr or on Instagram at @LoriAdamsBrown for support, prayers, or to share your thoughts on the episode.
  • Show support for Rowena Chiu by attending her speaking engagements, especially if she is in your area, and by engaging with her content on social media.
  • Consider sitting with a survivor, hearing their story, acknowledging their grief, and offering support by saying, "I believe you, I support you, and I'll sit with you as long as it takes for you to tell your story."

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction and Therapy Benefits

00:01:00 - Sponsor Promotion and Trigger Warning

00:03:00 - Guest Introduction and Cultural Background

00:07:49 - Impact of Sexual Assault on Community and Family

00:11:18 - Rowena's Story: Assault, NDA, and 20 Years of Silence

00:14:15 - The Trauma of Speaking Out Publicly

00:15:10 - The Importance of Speaking Out

00:16:32 - Impact of Sharing Personal Story

00:19:34 - MeToo Movement's Impact on Workplace Conversation

00:24:43 - Centering Survivor Stories

00:28:24 - Women's identification with survivors

00:29:42 - Survivor representation in media

00:30:36 - Bringing generational change

00:33:01 - Speaking out against powerful figures

00:38:20 - Myths about survivor success

00:43:20 - The Neat Bow in Allyship

00:45:02 - Finding Rowena

00:46:43 - Sharing Your Story

00:48:16 - Finding Healing

00:49:40 - Supporting Rowena

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction and Therapy Benefits

Lori introduces the podcast and its sponsor, Betterhelp, emphasizing the benefits of therapy for personal growth and self-understanding, not just crisis intervention.

00:01:00 - Sponsor Promotion and Trigger Warning

Lori promotes the sponsor, Betterhelp, offering a discount for first-time users. She also provides a trigger warning for sensitive topics related to abuse and sexual assault.

00:03:00 - Guest Introduction and Cultural Background

Lori introduces the guest, Rowena Chiu, an abuse survivor and advocate. Rowena shares her cultural background as a British-born Chinese and discusses the significance of Lunar New Year and the challenges faced by abuse survivors in communal cultures.

00:07:49 - Impact of Sexual Assault on Community and Family

Rowena discusses the collective impact of sexual assault on survivors and their communities, emphasizing the communal nature of Chinese culture and the importance of addressing the broader impact on families and communities.

00:11:18 - Rowena's Story: Assault, NDA, and 20 Years of Silence

Rowena shares her personal experience of being sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein, reporting the assault, signing a nondisclosure agreement (NDA), and being silenced for 20 years. She highlights the complex reasons for her delayed decision to speak out publicly.

00:14:15 - The Trauma of Speaking Out Publicly

Rowena discusses the distinction between private and public trauma when speaking about a difficult experience on a wide platform, such as a TV show, compared to sharing with close friends and family.

00:15:10 - The Importance of Speaking Out

Rowena emphasizes the difficulty of speaking out, but also stresses the importance of doing so, particularly for those who have not yet shared their experiences with trusted individuals.

00:16:32 - Impact of Sharing Personal Story

Rowena reflects on the personal and professional impact of sharing her story, drawing inspiration from Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and highlighting the strength derived from fellow survivors.

00:19:34 - MeToo Movement's Impact on Workplace Conversation

Rowena discusses the MeToo movement's role in exposing power dynamics and inequalities in the workplace, emphasizing the need for societal change and true equity.

00:24:43 - Centering Survivor Stories

Rowena addresses the media's tendency to center the perpetrator in narratives, expressing the challenges in getting survivor stories featured and the need for a more survivor-centric approach in media and society.

00:28:24 - Women's identification with survivors

Rowena discusses the difficulty for women to identify with sexual assault survivors like Laura Madden, Rowena Chu, and Zelda Perkins, compared to high-profile figures like Jodie Cantor and Megan Tui. She highlights societal treatment and media depiction of survivors.

00:29:42 - Survivor representation in media

Rowena critiques the two-dimensional portrayal of survivors in media, emphasizing the need for a more comprehensive depiction. She points out the survivor-centric nature of "she said" but notes the focus on journalists rather than survivors.

00:30:36 - Bringing generational change

Rowena expresses the need for generational change in societal attitudes towards survivors. She acknowledges the difficulty of having conversations about sexual assault and the discomfort survivors bring, emphasizing the importance of creating a better world for future generations.

00:33:01 - Speaking out against powerful figures

Rowena addresses the challenges of speaking out against powerful individuals, such as pastors or influential figures in the entertainment industry. She encourages finding allies and emphasizes the impact of one's voice in inspiring others.

00:38:20 - Myths about survivor success

Rowena discusses common myths about survivor success, highlighting the importance of acknowledging and sitting with survivors' grief. She challenges the notion that personal success in career or family can compensate for the trauma experienced.

00:43:20 - The Neat Bow in Allyship

Rowena emphasizes that anyone can be an ally of the MeToo movement, and shares that sitting with a survivor, hearing their story, and acknowledging their grief is the most impactful way to support them.

00:45:02 - Finding Rowena

Rowena shares where people can find her on social media platforms, talks about her upcoming book, and discusses her speaking engagements in various settings to open up a dialogue about sexual assault and survivorship.

00:46:43 - Sharing Your Story

Lori acknowledges the difficulty of sharing abuse stories and offers love and support to listeners who may have been inspired by Rowena's journey of speaking out after years of silence.

00:48:16 - Finding Healing

Lori reassures listeners that they are not alone, encourages them to seek healing, and highlights the importance of sitting with survivors and supporting them through their journey of healing.

00:49:40 - Supporting Rowena

Lori urges listeners to support Rowena in her advocacy work, shares information about exclusive content on Patreon, and emphasizes the impact of being a part of the support network for survivors like Rowena.

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Uncover the shocking truth behind a pastor's arrest and the toxic systems in faith communities. Join me as we delve into a Twitter thread that reveals the dark underbelly of abuse, manipulation, and cover-ups within religious institutions. You won't believe the tactics used to protect the abuser and silence the whistleblowers. This eye-opening discussion will leave you with a newfound understanding of the challenges survivors face and the importance of dismantling toxic systems. Stay tuned to unravel the unexpected truths and be part of a community where your voice matters.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Recognize signs of abusive pastors within faith communities to protect vulnerable members.
  • Uncover tactics used to silence victims and empower them to speak out.
  • Center survivors and support whistleblowers to create a culture of trust and accountability.
  • Identify patterns and toxic systems in faith communities to foster healing and change.
  • Learn how to create safe spaces for victims within faith communities to promote healing and restoration.

"It's heavy. It's a lot to take in. And if you're in a faith environment right now, listening to this, where things seem not right, things seem like there's a lot of red flags. You're not sure how to process it. Maybe a pastor has been accused of abuse or even arrested for crimes, and you're hearing these narratives. I just want to say, I'm sad with you that that's happening, and I hope you get to a place of safety." -Lori Adams-Brown

Uncovering tactics used to silence victims is a critical part of creating safer faith communities. These strategies may include deflecting blame onto whistleblowers, encouraging unification around the abuser, and invoking notions of spiritual warfare to foster loyalty. Awareness of these tactics can encourage conversations about abuse and discourage the protection of abusers.

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"Centering survivors should be number one. But I just almost never hear it in these cases." - Lori Adams-Brown

Recognizing signs of abusive pastors can be challenging due to their position of authority. However, patterns often emerge including the protection of the pastor over the well-being of the congregation. This emphasis on shielding the pastor can lead to harmful practices like silencing victims, minimizing the severity of the abuse, and even blaming those who speak out.

Survivors of abuse should be treated with respect and care. Instead of centering the narrative around the abuser in times of crisis, communities should prioritize listening to and supporting survivors. Creating a culture that truly supports survivors can help dismantle toxic systems and create an environment in which truth and transparency prevail.

"I hope you get to a place of safety. I hope you get to a place where your voice matters. And I hope you can find the freedom and the love that you deserve to thrive with your spirituality in a place where it's safe to be you and to speak the truth out loud."-Lori Adams-Brown

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to World of Difference Podcast

00:01:40 - Processing News of Pastor Arrest

00:03:52 - Grooming and Gaslighting in Faith Communities

00:07:14 - Patterns of Abusive Leadership

00:13:57 - Distracting from Abuse with Grandiosity

00:14:46 - Downplaying Abuse and Crime

00:15:30 - Unifying Around the Abuser

00:16:41 - Spiritual Warfare and Manipulation

00:18:07 - Silencing and Control

00:19:55 - Finding Safety and Support

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to World of Difference Podcast

Lori Adams-Brown introduces the podcast as a platform for those who are different and want to make a difference, sponsored by Betterhelp for therapy and personal growth.

00:01:40 - Processing News of Pastor Arrest

Lori shares her personal experience of processing the news of a pastor's arrest on 35 counts of sexual assault and how it resonated with many listeners on Twitter.

00:03:52 - Grooming and Gaslighting in Faith Communities

Lori discusses how faith communities often groom their members to protect abusive leaders, focusing on the abuser rather than the victims, and using psychological tactics like gaslighting.

00:07:14 - Patterns of Abusive Leadership

The conversation delves into the common patterns of abusive leadership in faith communities, including the use of coercion, betrayal blindness, and centering the abusive leader while disregarding the victims.

00:13:57 - Distracting from Abuse with Grandiosity

Lori highlights the tactic of using grandiosity, such as claiming "God has big plans for the pastor," to distract from the abuse and crimes, and redirect focus to the size and success of the ministry.

00:14:46 - Downplaying Abuse and Crime

The conversation starts with a discussion on the tactic of downplaying sexual abuse as merely a sin, minimizing the severity of the abuse and crime.

00:15:30 - Unifying Around the Abuser

The tactic of using unity language to silence whistleblowers and center the focus around the abuser instead of the victims, creating a cult-like environment.

00:16:41 - Spiritual Warfare and Manipulation

Manipulative tactics of framing the situation as a battle between good and evil, pressuring individuals to support the abuser and silencing conversations about safety within the faith community.

00:18:07 - Silencing and Control

Addressing the tactic of silencing and controlling the narrative within religious environments to maintain image management and prevent conversations about abuse and misconduct.

00:19:55 - Finding Safety and Support

Offering support and empathy to individuals in faith environments where abuse and red flags are present, encouraging them to seek safety and speak the truth.

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In the pursuit of becoming a great leader, Lance Ford found himself immersed in the fervor of the mid-90s Seeker church movement. However, his journey took an unexpected turn as he began to notice discrepancies between the teachings of Jesus and the prevailing leadership ethos. This realization led to his departure from the church he had founded, and a subsequent role at a prominent megachurch only solidified his conviction that a deeper issue permeated the church's leadership structures. What he discovered will challenge everything you thought you knew about leadership in the church.

If you're feeling overwhelmed by the pressure to grow your church at any cost, then you are not alone! The relentless focus on numbers and programs may be leaving you feeling spiritually depleted, despite the outward appearance of success. If you're feeling like you have to put on a facade of perfection and always have all the answers, then you are not alone! The pursuit of a mega-church model may be causing you to neglect your own well-being and authenticity as a leader. If you're feeling like you're constantly comparing your church to others and never measuring up, then you are not alone! The endless cycle of competition and comparison in the pursuit of growth may be leading to burnout and a loss of true community within your congregation.

My special guest is Lance Ford.

Lance Ford, a well-established church leader and author, has made significant contributions to the faith community through his publications in recognized platforms like Christianity Today and Outreach magazine. With a distinguished career spanning over three decades, Lance has applied his expertise as a pastor and church planner to develop unique training systems utilized by network seminaries and leaders globally. Renowned for his insightful books, including "Unleader," "The Starfish and the Spirit," and "Missional Essentials," Lance has demonstrated a comprehensive understanding of the complexities within evangelical spaces. His latest work, "The Atlas Factor," critically examines the inherent pitfalls of traditional church leadership models, offering valuable insights and practical wisdom for church leaders and pastors aiming to establish healthier and more authentic leadership structures. Lance's extensive experience and authoritative perspective position him as a valuable resource for reshaping leadership dynamics within the faith community.

You're not wrong with those little red flags. When you go to the scripture again, you start seeing it. - Lance Ford

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Embrace authentic and servant-hearted leadership in your faith community.
  • Explore the pitfalls of the mega-church model and its impact on leadership.
  • Learn to shift the focus of leadership to Jesus for a more genuine approach.
  • Understand the disillusionment with the leadership industrial complex and its effects.
  • Implement healthier leadership structures for a more sustainable and impactful church.

Cultivating healthier leadership structures

Creating healthier leadership structures within the church is a salient issue across different denominations and sizes of churches. Institutions can draw on Jesus Christ's teachings for inspiration, fostering a balance of power that encourages servant-hearted leadership. By shifting leadership paradigms and prioritizing the fundamental teachings of Jesus Christ, churches can cultivate healthier communities that better serve their congregations and embody the true spirit of Christianity.

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The majority are good. Even some of the worst abusers that we could name today, you look back at their history, you talk to the witnesses that were around in the early days. They started out good. - Lance Ford

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and Guest

00:01:52 - Lance's Background and Book

00:04:10 - Aha Moment

00:11:08 - Root Causes of Leadership Issues

00:14:15 - Church as a Platform for Narcissism

00:16:38 - The Evolution of Leadership

00:23:17 - Abuse of Power in Churches

00:27:04 - Jesus' Approach to Power

00:29:32 - Impact of the System on Whistleblowers

00:30:21 - The Atlas Factor

00:33:33 - The Importance of the Atlas Vertebra

00:35:06 - Paul's Teachings on Leadership

00:36:57 - Challenging Traditional Leadership Models

00:39:55 - Overcoming Cognitive Dissonance

00:46:03 - A Call to Action and Finding Support

00:49:19 - Importance of Metaphor and Theology

00:50:05 - Lance's Approach and Authenticity

00:51:46 - Recognizing Red Flags

00:52:47 - Lance's Empathy and Straightforwardness

00:55:21 - Self-Care and Encouragement

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introducing the Podcast and Guest

Lori introduces the podcast and the guest, Lance Ford. She highlights his background as a pastor, church planter, and author, and emphasizes his new book, "The Atlas Factor."

00:01:52 - Lance's Background and Book

Lance shares his background as a pastor and network director, and his journey of questioning leadership in the church. He discusses his previous book, "Unleader," and how it led to the writing of "The Atlas Factor."

00:04:10 - Aha Moment

Lori asks Lance about his moment of realization regarding the leadership culture in the church. Lance shares his experience of being on staff at a large church and witnessing questionable behavior from influential leaders, leading to his realization of the epidemic.

00:11:08 - Root Causes of Leadership Issues

Lori and Lance discuss the potential causes of the toxic leadership culture in the church. They touch on the attraction of power and influence in faith-based organizations and the potential draw for individuals with narcissistic tendencies.

00:14:15 - Church as a Platform for Narcissism

The conversation delves into the allure of the church as a platform for individuals with narcissistic tendencies to fulfill their desire for power and control. They explore the dynamics that enable and perpetuate such behavior within church leadership.

00:16:38 - The Evolution of Leadership

Lance discusses his surprise at the newness of the concept of leadership, as evidenced by its absence in older dictionaries. He highlights the industrial revolution's impact on the development of modern leadership theories.

00:23:17 - Abuse of Power in Churches

Lori and Lance discuss the specific impact of the industrial revolution on church leadership and the resulting burnout culture. They emphasize the need to address systemic issues rather than just symptoms.

00:27:04 - Jesus' Approach to Power

Lance delves into Jesus' teachings on power and leadership, emphasizing the contrast between worldly power dynamics and the servant leadership model promoted by Jesus.

00:29:32 - Impact of the System on Whistleblowers

The conversation explores the detrimental effects of the current leadership system on whistleblowers and women, highlighting the toxic masculinity and patriarchal structures within the church.

00:30:21 - The Atlas Factor

Lance introduces the concept of the Atlas factor as a metaphor for the burden placed on church leaders to carry the weight of the world. He explores the idea of decentralized leadership and the need to shift the focus onto Jesus as the true head of the church.

00:33:33 - The Importance of the Atlas Vertebra

Lance Ford discusses the significance of the atlas vertebra, its role in connecting the brain to the body, and how misalignment can affect overall health.

00:35:06 - Paul's Teachings on Leadership

Paul's writings in Ephesians are discussed, emphasizing the importance of the body of Christ and the misuse of titles such as "head pastor" in modern leadership models.

00:36:57 - Challenging Traditional Leadership Models

Lance encourages readers to re-examine their understanding of leadership by reading the Bible with fresh eyes and questioning the prevailing church growth and leadership models.

00:39:55 - Overcoming Cognitive Dissonance

The conversation delves into the challenges of navigating cognitive dissonance within the church, addressing the disconnect between what should be happening and what actually occurs in many church settings.

00:46:03 - A Call to Action and Finding Support

Lance offers support to those who have experienced abuse within the church, providing hope and practical resources for individuals and communities seeking positive change. He also shares his contact information for further assistance.

00:49:19 - Importance of Metaphor and Theology

Lance Ford discusses the significance of the metaphor of the Atlas factor and theological implications. He emphasizes the need for people to know they are not alone in dealing with toxic faith environments.

00:50:05 - Lance's Approach and Authenticity

Lori praises Lance's research synthesis and caring nature. She highlights his ability to give language to issues and communicate in a caring and loving manner. Lance's authenticity in addressing hard truths is also commended.

00:51:46 - Recognizing Red Flags

Lori emphasizes the importance of recognizing red flags in toxic faith environments. She encourages listeners to pick up Lance's book, "The Atlas Factor," to gain insight into unhealthy church dynamics and toxic leadership.

00:52:47 - Lance's Empathy and Straightforwardness

Lori appreciates Lance's empathy towards marginalized individuals and his ability to synthesize information. She commends his straightforward yet caring approach in addressing toxic faith environments and interactions with people.

00:55:21 - Self-Care and Encouragement

Lori encourages listeners to engage in self-care and mindfulness after listening to the podcast. She affirms the value and worth of the audience, urging them to take care of themselves as they continue making a difference in the world.

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Have you heard the myths about feminist readings of the Bible? Some common myths include: feminist interpretations of the Bible are anti-male, feminist readings ignore traditional religious teachings, and feminist perspectives on the Bible are not rooted in scholarly research. Our guest, Dr. Julie Faith Parker, will share the truth, dispel these myths, and provide a deeper understanding of the feminist perspectives found in biblical texts.

My special guest is Dr. Julie Faith Parker

Our guest today is Dr. Julie Faith Parker, an accomplished biblical scholar and author of the book "Eve Isn't Evil: Feminist Readings of the Bible to Upend Our Assumptions." With a distinguished background in ancient languages, including Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic, Dr. Parker brings a wealth of expertise to the discussion. Her extensive research focuses on the cultural and linguistic nuances of the biblical world, providing valuable insights into feminist interpretations of biblical texts. As a visiting scholar at Union Theological Seminary and a biblical scholar in residence at Marble Collegiate Church in New York City, Dr. Parker's work has garnered widespread acclaim for its scholarly depth and thought-provoking perspectives. We are honored to have her join us on the show today.

The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there. - Dr. Julie Faith Parker

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore feminist perspectives in the Bible to uncover hidden narratives and empower your understanding.
  • Gain insight into the cultural context of biblical times, shedding light on the lives of women in the ancient world.
  • Discover the significance of understanding original languages to unveil deeper meanings within biblical texts.
  • Challenge traditional interpretations of the Bible to embrace diverse and inclusive perspectives.
  • Experience the transformative and empowering nature of the Psalms through a feminist lens.

Discovering the Significance of Original Languages

The episode emphasizes the value of studying the Bible in its original languages. Such study provides valuable insights into the minds of biblical figures and bypasses the influence of interpretive decisions made by translators. By examining the scripture in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and other languages, listeners can discover new nuances, foster a deeper understanding of the texts, and challenge commonly accepted interpretations.

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Gaining Insight into the Cultural Context

Understanding the cultural context that shaped the Bible's narratives, forms a significant part of the discussions in this episode. The biblical world, markedly different from today's society, had unique vocabularies, concepts, and societal structures that influence how we interpret the text. Grasping these aspects is vital to fully appreciate the texts and uncover hidden meanings obscured by modern perspectives.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast

00:00:32 - Introducing Betterhelp

00:01:22 - Introducing Dr. Julie Faith Parker

00:03:18 - Understanding the Biblical World

00:08:08 - Importance of Language Study

00:14:08 - Reinterpreting the Psalms

00:16:43 - The Psalms in Latin America

00:18:26 - Teaching in Sing Sing

00:20:58 - Criminals in the Bible

00:27:17 - Feminist Lens on the Scriptures

00:28:22 - Feminist Interpretation of Scriptures

00:29:49 - Unique Filters in Reading Scriptures

00:31:32 - Family Struggles and Labels

00:35:35 - Reinterpretation of Eve

00:40:55 - Consequences of Punishments

00:41:04 - The Divine Mother and Daughter

00:42:22 - The Misinterpretation of Eve

00:44:50 - Feminist Lens on the Book of Job

00:48:26 - Job's Integrity and Feminist Takeaway

00:51:06 - Understanding Eve and Women in Ancient Scriptures

00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker Community

00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community Benefits

00:55:03 - Call to Action

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Exploring Feminist Perspectives in the Bible

The episode unveils a fresh outlook on biblical narratives by exploring feminist interpretations. By questioning traditional interpretations, particularly those that perpetuate inequality, and shedding light on the strength and resilience of women in the Bible, the episode underscores their crucial role in biblical stories. Such exploration of feminist perspectives can break away from the conventional interpretations, highlighting women's experiences, voices, and roles in the Bible.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast

Lori introduces the podcast and its focus on making a difference for those who are different. She also highlights the importance of self-care for difference-makers.

00:00:32 - Introducing BetterHelp

Lori talks about the importance of seeking help and introduces Betterhelp.com/difference as the sponsor of the podcast, offering a 10% discount to listeners. She shares her personal experience with therapy and healing.

00:01:22 - Introducing Dr. Julie Faith Parker

Lori introduces Dr. Julie Faith Parker, a biblical scholar and author of "Eve isn't evil feminist readings of the Bible to upend our assumptions." She highlights Dr. Parker's extensive background and research interests.

00:03:18 - Understanding the Biblical World

Dr. Parker discusses the importance of understanding the cultural differences in the biblical world, emphasizing the tribal, age-integrated society and the absence of certain concepts like privacy, individualism, and race.

00:08:08 - Importance of Language Study

Dr. Parker shares her experience studying multiple languages and how it offers insights into the biblical texts. She emphasizes the importance of original languages to better understand cultural nuances and avoid the biases of translators.

00:14:08 - Reinterpreting the Psalms

Julie shares her experience of using the Psalms for spiritual connection during a dangerous encounter in Nicaragua. She highlights the cultural and biblical significance of the Psalms and the sense of worship they provide.

00:16:43 - The Psalms in Latin America

Julie reflects on her experience of singing the Psalms in Spanish during worship in Venezuela. She discusses the influence of liberation theology and the impact of the Psalms on her understanding of different types of liberation.

00:18:26 - Teaching in Sing Sing

Julie talks about her transformative experience teaching at Sing Sing Maximum security prison. She emphasizes the intelligence and capability of the incarcerated individuals and challenges the stigma surrounding people who have been incarcerated.

00:20:58 - Criminals in the Bible

Julie discusses the presence of individuals who committed crimes in the Bible, such as Cain, Moses, David, Jesus, and Paul. She emphasizes the importance of offering second chances and not being quick to judge incarcerated individuals.

00:27:17 - Feminist Lens on the Scriptures

Julie explains her choice of using a feminist lens to interpret the scriptures. She shares her experience of feeling empowered and discovering a different perspective on the story of Eve, challenging traditional interpretations.

00:28:22 - Feminist Interpretation of Scriptures

Julie discusses making the scriptures accessible to all, regardless of biblical education. Feminist interpretation liberated her and she hopes her book will do the same.

00:29:49 - Unique Filters in Reading Scriptures

Julie talks about the uniqueness of individual filters when reading scriptures. She relates it to her work in leadership development and emphasizes the relevance of the scriptures to human experiences.

00:31:32 - Family Struggles and Labels

Julie shares her family struggles, including her son's autism diagnosis and daughter's bipolar disorder. She highlights the importance of erasing the stigma associated with such conditions and finding help.

00:35:35 - Reinterpretation of Eve

Julie discusses her reinterpretation of Eve, emphasizing her curiosity and the blame unfairly placed on her. She delves into the translations and punishments related to Eve's story.

00:40:55 - Consequences of Punishments

Julie explores the consequences of the punishments given to Adam and Eve. She discusses the ideology and patriarchy reflected in the scriptures' portrayal of gender roles.

00:41:04 - The Divine Mother and Daughter

Julie discusses the relationship between Eve and God, highlighting the divine connection between mothers and daughters. She emphasizes that the presence of women together reflects the presence of the divine mother and daughter.

00:42:22 - The Misinterpretation of Eve

Julie delves into the misinterpretation of Eve's actions, pointing out the mistranslation of her words and the bias against her character in the biblical text. She challenges the traditional narrative and provides a feminist perspective on Eve.

00:44:50 - Feminist Lens on the Book of Job

Julie explores the feminist perspective in the book of Job, highlighting the portrayal of women characters and their significance in the narrative. She emphasizes the importance of interpreting the text through a feminist lens to uncover hidden biases.

00:48:26 - Job's Integrity and Feminist Takeaway

Julie discusses Job's refusal to accept blame and his unwavering integrity in the face of adversity. She interprets this as a feminist takeaway, emphasizing the importance of standing up against unfair accusations and holding onto one's truth.

00:51:06 - Understanding Eve and Women in Ancient Scriptures

Julie shares her insights on understanding Eve and women in ancient scriptures, highlighting the importance of reexamining the portrayal of women in religious texts. She encourages a deeper understanding of women's roles and experiences in ancient narratives.

00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker Community

Lori introduces the Difference Maker Community where listeners can engage with guests and participate in polls to impact the podcast content for 2024.

00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community Benefits

Lori encourages joining the community to access exclusive episodes and interact with guests. Access is available for as little as $5 a month on patreon.com.

00:55:03 - Call to Action

Lori invites listeners to join the community and acknowledges their efforts in making a difference worldwide. She signs off with a reminder to continue making a difference.

00:54:00 - Introduction to Difference Maker Community

Lori introduces the Difference Maker Community where listeners can engage with guests and participate in polls to impact the podcast content for 2024.

00:54:40 - Exclusive Episodes and Community Benefits

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If you're feeling frustrated and helpless in your efforts to promote cultural and linguistic accuracy in the church, despite taking actions like advocating for diverse representation and using inclusive language, then you are not alone!

Words matter, especially in translations of the Bible. Join us as we dive into the world of New Testament translations with Scott McKnight and uncover the importance of accurate translations and the impact they can have. But when it comes to women in ministry and the use of certain words, will the translation choices make or break their place in the church? Find out in this thought-provoking discussion.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Recognize the value of cultural understanding and meticulous translation in the proper interpretation of the Bible.
  • Delve into the intricate dynamics of power within the church and their varied consequences.
  • Learn how to address spiritual abuse effectively and foster a support system for survivors.
  • Embrace the core principles of good leadership and the altruistic use of power in ministry.
  • Highlight the vital insights shared by women scholars and survivors for a more inclusive faith community.

My special guest is Dr. Scot McKnight

Meet Dr. Scot McKnight, a renowned New Testament professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois and a prolific author with a passion for diving deep into the cultural context of biblical texts. As a guest on Lori Adams-Brown's podcast, Scot brings his expertise in Bible translation and interpretation, having written over 90 books, including widely-read titles like "A Church Called Tov" and "The Blue Parakeet." A dedicated advocate for abuse survivors and a favorite professor among his students, Dr. McKnight's insights are sure to enrich your understanding of the Bible.

"I believe in the power of a more literal translation."- Dr. Scot McKnight

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  • Check out Dr. Scott McKnight's new translation of the New Testament, The Second Testament.
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  • Purchase Dr. McKnight's books, including A Church Called Tov, The King Jesus Gospel, and The Blue Parakeet.
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  • Read Dr. McKnight's contributions as general editor of the Dictionary of Paul and His Letters.
  • Explore the Everyday Bible series, including the First Testament by John Golden Gay and The Kingdom New Testament by Tom Wright.

The Way of Jesus

Good leadership in the church involves recognizing, using, and sharing power in ways that are faithful to the teachings of Jesus. Followers of Jesus should strive to cultivate humility, compassion, and an attitude of serving others, often forgoing one's power to benefit those who are more vulnerable. Dr. Scot McKnight, during the podcast interview, mentioned several examples of power abuse in the church, contrasting them with the biblical teachings of Jesus. He specifically cited Romans 16 and Philippians 2:1-11, which emphasize the concept of Kenosis – the act of laying down one's power to serve others. McKnight believes that understanding this concept and applying it in the context of leadership and church relationships is essential to embodying the way of Jesus and countering the negative aspects of power dynamics in churches.

"Words deeply matter, and those words can wound and they can hurt for a long time." - Dr. Scot McKnight

Women in Ministry

An accurate translation plays a crucial role in recognizing and valuing the contributions of women in the early church. Being mindful of the words used to describe women's roles is crucial as language can shape our understanding and reinforce stereotypes or power dynamics within the church. By translating words and phrases accurately, women's contributions to the early church can be acknowledged and celebrated more fairly. During the conversation, Dr. McKnight emphasized the importance of using accurate translation to highlight women's roles in the church, such as translating the word Phoebe to mean "deacon" rather than "servant." He also mentioned the prevalence of false narratives and power dynamics in church culture that can negatively affect how people perceive women's roles in ministry. By ensuring accurate translations, he believes we can better acknowledge, value, and empower women working in the church.

Keeping Names Authentic

One of the essential aspects of ensuring cultural authenticity in a Bible translation is the use of names as close as possible to what they would have sounded in the original language. This offers a sense of novelty and unfamiliarity for readers, prompting reflection on the context and culture surrounding the text. By preserving the original names, readers can gain deeper insights into the characters and their significance in the narrative. Dr. McKnight uses transliteration in his translation, meaning that names in the Bible are rendered more authentically, closer to their original language. For instance, Yakobos is used instead of the English equivalent, James. Dr. McKnight argued during the podcast that using such authentic names invites readers to reconsider the context and culture of the Bible's characters, creating a more engaging and meaningful reading experience.

"We need to be careful with the words we use for translations, because if we don't get it right, it can hurt people." - Dr. Scot McKnight

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Dr. Scott McKnight is an advocate in the survivor community and a professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois. He has written over 90 books and blogs at The Jesus Creed. He talks about his new translation of the New Testament, the Second Testament, which he made more literal to help people understand the ancient context of the text.

00:06:01 - Reason for New Translation,

McKnight believes that the capacity to translate Greek into English has reached near perfection, but people miss things when they try to make it a natural English equivalent. He wants to show people the differences between the original Greek sentence and the English sentence.

00:11:37 - Distinctives of the Second Testament,

McKnight was inspired to translate the New Testament after reading John Golden Gay's translation of the Old Testament. One of the distinctives is the transliteration of names, which may be confusing but creates an authentic ancient context. McKnight's translation sometimes sounds clunky because it is formally equivalent, but that helps readers slow down and think.

00:14:57 - Keeping Names Authentic,

The Second Testament transliterates names to help readers understand the ancient context. This makes the text feel foreign and distant, which is appropriate, as it helps readers dig deeper into cultural exegesis. McKnight believes that being familiar with the text can be a hindrance to truly understanding it.

00:15:47 - Familiarity with the Text,

Familiarity with the text can sometimes

00:16:13 - The Impact of Names on Reading,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the impact of names on reading and how different names can lead readers to think differently and understand a text in a new way. He suggests that using the original Greek text can take readers into the first-century Christian world and help them understand the text in a new light.

00:18:10 - Women in Ministry,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the controversy around women pastors, using the example of the lack of pastors in the Bible. He suggests that titles such as Piscopos, Diaconos, and Presbutaros were used instead. He also refers to Romans 16, which mentions several women involved in church ministry, including an apostle and a deacon.

00:22:54 - Multiculturalism in the Early Church,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the multicultural and multiracial nature of the early church, with a mix of slaves and free people, men and women, and Jews and Gentiles. He draws attention to the several women mentioned in Romans 16, performing ministries that today would be called pastoring.

00:27:39 - The Importance of Language,

Dr. Scot McKnight emphasizes the importance of language and translation, pointing out that the wrong translation can hurt people. He uses the example of King James' Bible, which made choices to keep its subjects subdued. He also discusses the power dynamics in evangelical churches and how they favor men and certain behaviors that have become manly.

00:33:10 - The Four Types of Power,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the four types of power: power over, power to influence, power with, and power for. He explains how power over is the most corrupted form of power and how it is prevalent in the business world, sports, and even the church. He also highlights the importance of using power for the good of others and sharing power with others.

00:35:25 - The Power With,

Dr. McKnight delves deeper into the concept of power with and how it involves the willingness to share power with someone else to achieve a mutually beneficial outcome. He cites his experience of co-authoring a book with a young man and how they worked together to create a cohesive product.

00:36:53 - Power For,

Dr. McKnight discusses the last type of power, power for, which involves using one's power for the good of another person. He cites Jesus Christ as an example of this type of power, as He came not to be served but to serve and give His life for others.

00:40:00 - Dealing with Spiritual Abuse,

Dr. McKnight advises people who are experiencing spiritual abuse or know someone who is to first become healthy enough to handle the blowback that comes with going public. He also stresses the importance of having a support system and following the proper protocols or guidelines for reporting abuse. Lastly, he emphasizes the need for patience and resilience as it may take a long time to see change.

00:50:50 - Abusing Power in Churches,

Dr. Scott McKnight discusses how some pastors and church leaders abuse their power, particularly with vulnerable members such as children. He encourages readers to follow his work in understanding power dynamics and using power for good, especially with survivors of abuse.

00:52:00 - The Way of Jesus,

Dr. Scott McKnight emphasizes the way of Jesus in using power for good and elevating others. He references the Kenosis passage in Philippians 2 and encourages listeners to learn how to understand and wield their power for the benefit of others.

00:53:38 - Call to Action,

Lori Adams-Brown issues a call to action for listeners to use their power for good, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages finding a survivor and listening to their story while respecting their autonomy and using power to elevate their voice and support them.

00:54:48 - Tov

Lori Adams-Brown references Dr. Scott McKnight and Laura Behringer's book, A Church Called TOV, and highlights the importance of using power in tov, or goodness, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages listeners to find ways to support survivors and let them lead the way in how they want to share their stories and move forward.

00:56:03 - Conclusion,

Lori Adams-Brown thanks listeners for their work in making a difference and encourages them to read Dr. Scot McKnight's book, Second Testament. She also hints at future episodes with Dr. Scot McKnight and his new book with Laura Barringer as a follow up to A Church Called TOV.

  • Appreciate the role of cultural context and precise translation in interpreting the Bible effectively.
  • Comprehend the various power dynamics at play within the church and their implications.
  • Recognize signs of spiritual abuse, ensuring adequate support for survivors.
  • Grasp the crucial need for responsible leadership and the ethical use of power.
  • Discover the valuable contributions of female scholars and survivors in the ministry.
  • Realize the importance of context and accurate translation in unlocking the true meaning of biblical passages.
  • Uncover diversities in church power dynamics and their impacts on members.
  • Identify the nature of spiritual abuse and the ways to help survivors heal.
  • Understand the significance of virtuous leadership and the fair exercise of power for communal benefit.
  • Shed light on the often-overlooked perspectives of women scholars and abuse survivors in ministry.
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In a world where women's voices are marginalized, join Liz Cooledge Jenkins as she challenges patriarchal structures in evangelicalism and empowers women to reclaim their humanity. But will she be able to make a difference in a system resistant to change? Discover the shocking truth in this gripping journey of faith and advocacy.

In this episode of the A World of Difference podcast, you'll join host Lori Adams-Brown as she chats with guest Liz Cooledge Jenkins about reclaiming women's humanity from evangelicalism. Liz shares her own experiences and insights, drawing from her background as a writer, preacher, and former college campus minister. The conversation explores the impact of patriarchal structures within the church and the importance of speaking out against gender inequality. Liz's book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy, is praised for its compelling title and narrative approach, making it a valuable resource for anyone seeking to challenge patriarchal norms in evangelicalism. Through personal narratives and thought-provoking discussions, this episode empowers individuals to reclaim their humanity and advocate for gender equality in religious communities. So grab your headphones and get ready to dive into this inspiring conversation on A World of Difference.

My special guest is

Liz Coolidge Jenkins is not your typical preacher and writer. With a BS in Symbolic Systems from Stanford and a Master of Divinity, Liz brings a unique blend of intellect and spirituality to her work. She is passionate about challenging patriarchal norms within evangelicalism and advocating for gender equality in religious communities. Through her writing, Liz fearlessly delves into the complex issues surrounding women's rights and roles in the church. Her book, "Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism," is a powerful exploration of her own journey and experiences within the evangelical world. With a mix of personal narrative and insightful analysis, Liz offers a fresh perspective on how we can create faith communities that are inclusive, just, and life-giving for everyone. Prepare to be inspired and empowered as Liz Cooledge Jenkins invites you to join her in reclaiming women's humanity and transforming the religious landscape.

Even if progress has been made, there's still work to do. We deserve full equality and we won't settle for anything less. - Liz Cooledge Jenkins

Amplifying Women's Voices

The importance of amplifying women's voices is a primary factor in challenging and shifting age-old patriarchal structures, particularly within evangelical contexts. Women's experiences, insights, and perspectives can bring a fresh understanding and significant contributions to religious and societal discourses. Actively seeking and valuing women's voices is a crucial step towards attaining gender equality and smashing restrictive norms.

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  • Reflect on your own experiences with gender and faith and consider how they have shaped your perspective.
  • Encourage women to define what is best for themselves and to reject patronizing attitudes that limit their potential.

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Challenging Patriarchal Power Structures

Patriarchal power structures are deeply ingrained, not only in religious communities but also in broader society. They can perpetuate gender inequality and hinder progress towards a just and inclusive world. Challenging these structures requires courage, collective action, and mindful efforts to uplift marginalized voices, fostering a shift toward equality and fairness.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction and Sponsorship

00:02:00 - Introduction of Liz Cooledge Jenkins

00:05:06 - Writing Style and Personal Narrative

00:07:48 - Dave's Comment on Women in Ministry

00:10:49 - Reflection on College Experience

00:15:20 - Neutrality and its Impact on Women in the Church

00:16:40 - The Threat of Speaking Up

00:18:22 - Marginalizing Voices of Change

00:19:59 - The Importance of Advocacy

00:21:54 - The Impact of the Barbie Movie on Gender Equality

00:30:47 - Rethinking Leadership and Gender

00:33:23 - Navigating Challenges in Evangelical Spaces

00:36:25 - Dealing with Silencing and Marginalization

00:37:58 - Reflecting on Experiences and Finding Empowerment

00:41:24 - Calls to Action for Male Pastors

00:47:14 - The Importance of Women's Perspectives

00:47:57 - Liz's Experience in Seminary

00:48:47 - Book Recommendation: "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy"

00:49:11 - Difference Maker Community and Deeper Conversations

Uncovering hidden stories

Hidden stories are powerful narratives often overlooked or suppressed due to their challenging nature towards established norms. In the context of evangelicalism, these stories often stem from marginalized voices speaking up against patriarchal power structures. These narratives play a crucial role in fostering empathy, broadening perspective, and ultimately empowering individuals who may be experiencing similar struggles.

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00:00:02 - Introduction and Sponsorship

Lori introduces the podcast and the sponsor, BetterHelp.com, which offers therapy services. She shares her positive experience with therapy and encourages listeners to take advantage of the 10% off offer.

00:02:00 - Introduction of Liz Cooledge Jenkins

Lori introduces Liz Cooledge Jenkins as a writer, preacher, and former college campus minister. She mentions Liz's educational background and her writing contributions to various publications. Lori also mentions Liz's new book, "Nice Churchy Patriarchy."

00:05:06 - Writing Style and Personal Narrative

Lori discusses how Liz chose to incorporate personal narratives into her book and why she believes stories are powerful. They also touch on the challenge of making academic writing accessible to a broader audience.

00:07:48 - Dave's Comment on Women in Ministry

Liz shares an experience from her college years when a church member named Dave made a patronizing comment about women in ministry. She reflects on how it made her feel and the importance of women defining what is best for themselves.

00:10:49 - Reflection on College Experience

Lori asks Liz how she felt during that jarring experience as a college student and what she would say to her younger self. Liz expresses her shock and the lack of words to respond at the time, but affirms that her feelings were valid.

00:15:20 - Neutrality and its Impact on Women in the Church

The discussion begins with the question of neutrality and its implications. The guest shares her experience in a patriarchal church and how it made it difficult for any change to occur. Speaking up for gender equality was often seen as causing trouble.

00:16:40 - The Threat of Speaking Up

The conversation delves into the fear that speaking up against the system poses for those in power. Drawing parallels to the Civil Rights Movement, the guest emphasizes the importance of raising questions and advocating for change, even if it disrupts the status quo.

00:18:22 - Marginalizing Voices of Change

The guest recounts the experience of a woman in her church who faced labeling and marginalization for pushing for gender equality. Many voices that advocate for change are squashed and silenced. It highlights the significance of those who can speak out about their experiences.

00:19:59 - The Importance of Advocacy

The conversation addresses the misconception that women should be content with their relatively better situation compared to others. The guest emphasizes the need for equality and justice, and how it is essential to dream and work towards a better world for women.

00:21:54 - The Impact of the Barbie Movie on Gender Equality

The guest reflects on the Barbie movie and its impact on addressing patriarchy directly. The powerful speech by America Ferrera's character resonated with many, highlighting the impossible expectations and the need for women to be empowered to be their

00:30:47 - Rethinking Leadership and Gender

The conversation explores the socialization of women and the need to redefine what a leader looks like in terms of gender and style. It emphasizes the importance of considering women's ambitions and assertiveness positively and reexamining assumptions about leadership and gender roles.

00:33:23 - Navigating Challenges in Evangelical Spaces

The discussion delves into the challenges faced by women in evangelical spaces and the difficulty of speaking up for equality. It suggests embracing agency, having conversations about experiences, and being open to the possibility of leaving if necessary to find spaces where women's gifts are valued.

00:36:25 - Dealing with Silencing and Marginalization

The conversation acknowledges the silencing and marginalization experienced by women who advocate for equality. It encourages women to find communities that take them seriously and honor their value. It reassures them that leaving an unsupportive environment is not walking away from faith and that God is present in the journey of change.

00:37:58 - Reflecting on Experiences and Finding Empowerment

Reflection on difficult experiences, even when women are aware that others have it worse, is deemed important. It highlights the value of processing and not being afraid to take seriously the things that feel wrong. Exploring resources from different thinkers and finding empowering expressions of faith is also recommended.

00:41:24 - Calls to Action for Male Pastors

Male pastors are urged to seek feedback from women in their congregations and

00:47:14 - The Importance of Women's Perspectives

The speaker acknowledges that exposure to new communities can sometimes stifle curiosity, especially in faith communities. She highlights the importance of women's perspectives, even those that contradict dominant viewpoints, in order to create a more equitable and wonderful world.

00:47:57 - Liz's Experience in Seminary

The speaker mentions Liz's book and her journey of trying to find her voice as a woman in seminary classes that were not always supportive. She emphasizes the need for women's opinions in churches, classrooms, and society at large.

00:48:47 - Book Recommendation: "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy"

The speaker recommends Liz's book, "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism," and encourages listeners to read it for themselves. The book delves into issues of patriarchy and the importance of women's perspectives.

00:49:11 - Difference Maker Community and Deeper Conversations

The speaker invites listeners to join the Difference Maker community and announces that Liz will be a part of exclusive conversations there. The community offers additional content and a platform for deeper discussions on the topics addressed in the podcast.

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In the depths of despair, Naghmeh Panahi's story holds an unexpected twist that will leave you breathless. From the war-torn streets of her homeland to the foreign shores of America, she battled not just with oppression, but with her own sense of belonging. But it was when her husband faced imprisonment in Iran that her life took a dramatic turn, revealing a truth so shocking it will make you question everything. Prepare yourself for a journey of resilience, as Naghmeh's story unravels with a heart-wrenching open loop, leaving you eager to discover the strength she found to break free.

My special guest is Naghmeh Panahi

We are thrilled to rerelease this Best of 2023 episode with Naghmeh Panahi on the A World of Difference podcast. Naghmeh's story is one of incredible strength and resilience in the face of abuse. Having experienced domestic violence and spiritual abuse within religious institutions, she has become a beacon of hope for survivors. Her book, "I Didn't Survive: Emerging Whole After Deception, Persecution, and Hidden Abuse," is a testament to her courage and determination. Naghmeh's journey from an immigrant Muslim girl from Iran to an advocate for women and children impacted by domestic abuse is truly inspiring. Through her foundation, Tahir Al Nisa, she is making a profound impact on the lives of those who have experienced similar traumas. We are honored to have Naghmeh share her story and insights on the podcast, as she empowers others to break free from abusive relationships and find their voice. Get ready for an episode filled with empowerment and inspiration.

As we go through the fires of trials, we don't really survive. A lot of our way of thinking or things we didn't see before, like abuse or different things just come to light and our old self doesn't survive and we become a new person. - Naghmeh Panahi

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the courage and strength of Naghmeh Panahi as she shares her powerful story of surviving abuse within a religious institution.
  • Uncover the hidden nature of abuse within religious institutions and gain a deeper understanding of the complexities involved.
  • Find hope and inspiration as you learn about the healing and recovery process for survivors of abuse within religious institutions.
  • Gain knowledge and insight into advocating for change and holding religious institutions accountable for their actions.
  • Empower yourself to break free from abusive relationships within religious institutions and create a life of freedom and authenticity.

Uncover the Hidden Abuse

Abuse takes many forms, and often, the emotional and verbal types remain hidden from sight. In religious institutions, the power dynamics can foster such mistreatment, which goes unnoticed or is deliberately neglected. Understanding the nuanced ways in which abuse can manifest is vital to identifying victims and offering them the necessary support and resources.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Listen to the A World of Difference podcast episode featuring Naghmeh Panahi's inspiring story of survival and redemption.
  • Purchase Naghmeh Panahi's book, I Didn't Survive: Emerging Whole After Deception, Persecution, and Hidden Abuse, available now. https://naghmehpanahi.com/
  • Support the Tahir Al Nisa Foundation, co-founded by Naghmeh Panahi, which serves women and children impacted by domestic abuse by visiting their website and donating. https://www.tahriralnisa.org/about/naghmeh-panahi/
  • Learn more about the immigrant experience and the trauma faced by refugees by attending trauma recovery weekends and workshops led by experts like Naghmeh Panahi's husband.
  • Explore the Persian culture and attend events like the Iranian New Year Festival to experience the rich traditions and learn about the history.
  • Get involved in human rights advocacy by supporting organizations like Amnesty International and sending postcards to individuals in jail in Iran.
  • Reflect on your own identity and the impact of being a third culture kid by exploring resources and joining support groups for individuals who have similar experiences.
  • Educate yourself on domestic abuse and its impact by reading books and articles, attending workshops, and supporting organizations that provide resources and support for survivors.
  • Share Naghmeh Panahi's story

Abusive governments or abusive people try to control you think they try to control weak people, but it's actually sometimes it's trying to restrain strong people... women are really strong and that's why the government is so focused on shutting them down. - Naghmeh Panahi

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:01:38 - Nagmeh's Background and Book

00:05:17 - Writing the Book to Help Others

00:07:06 - Immigrant Experience

00:11:41 - Identity as a Third Culture Kid

00:16:03 - Strength of Iranian Women

00:18:11 - Restriction and Fear in the Middle East

00:19:28 - Strong Women and Resistance to Oppression

00:20:53 - Inspiring Women in the Middle East

00:22:19 - Domestic Violence and Speaking Out

00:31:45 - Naghmeh's Hope for Franklin Graham

00:33:27 - Naghmeh's Thoughts on Franklin Graham

00:34:19 - The Title of Naghmeh's Book

00:38:20 - Naghmeh's Message to Those Experiencing Abuse

00:42:55 - Paying Attention to the Body's Signals

00:47:20 - The Sacrifice of Putting People First

00:47:43 - Finding Naghmeh and Her Work

00:48:21 - Gratitude for the Connection

00:49:06 - Naghmeh's Life as a Butterfly

00:50:43 - Calls to Action Based on Naghmeh's Story

Even when you have a strong force coming against you, whether it's government or it's a religious institution or whatever, you have to really be strengthened even more, be stronger to break through. - Naghmeh Panahi

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction

The host introduces the podcast episode and provides a trigger warning for the guest's discussion of abuse. Listeners are advised to prioritize their mental health while listening to the episode.

00:01:38 - Nagme's Background and Book

Nagme Panahi is introduced as a remarkable woman who has experienced various forms of abuse. Her book, "I Didn't Survive," details her journey of emerging whole after deception, persecution, and hidden abuse.

00:05:17 - Writing the Book to Help Others

Nagme shares that she wrote her book to help others who may be going through similar trials and to share her story of renewal and transformation through suffering.

00:07:06 - Immigrant Experience

Nagme discusses her experience as an immigrant from Iran, highlighting the challenges of adjusting to a new culture and feeling like she didn't fit in. She also reflects on the trauma of war and the limited resources in her home country.

00:11:41 - Identity as a Third Culture Kid

Nagme shares the difficulties of navigating her identity as a third culture kid, feeling neither fully Iranian nor fully American. She discusses the unique perspective and mindset that come with living between cultures.

00:16:03 - Strength of Iranian Women

The guest discusses the stereotypes and misconceptions about Iranian women, highlighting their strength and resilience. She shares stories of Iranian women breaking barriers and standing up against oppression.

00:18:11 - Restriction and Fear in the Middle East

The conversation shifts to the restrictions faced by women in the Middle East, particularly in Afghanistan. The guest emphasizes that these restrictions are a sign of fear from those in power towards strong women who may bring about change.

00:19:28 - Strong Women and Resistance to Oppression

The guest mentions several strong Iranian women who have stood up to oppressive governments and religious institutions. She highlights the importance of strength and resilience when facing challenges and how these women have become voices for change.

00:20:53 - Inspiring Women in the Middle East

The host shares her experiences meeting incredible women in the Middle East, including Malala, and hearing their stories of education and empowerment. She acknowledges the threat these women pose to those who want to suppress their voices.

00:22:19 - Domestic Violence and Speaking Out

The guest opens up about her experience of domestic violence from her husband, who was seen as a Christian hero. She discusses the challenges of speaking out and the strength she found within herself to set boundaries and break free from the abuse.

00:31:45 - Naghmeh's Hope for Franklin Graham

Naghmeh expresses her desire for Franklin Graham to use his platform to advocate for abuse survivors and bring awareness to the issue within the church. She hopes that he will repent of his harmful views and become an ally in the fight against abuse.

00:33:27 - Naghmeh's Thoughts on Franklin Graham

Naghmeh clarifies that while she doesn't currently like Franklin Graham, she doesn't hate him either. She believes that his way of thinking is harmful and hopes that he will change his perspective and become an advocate for abuse survivors.

00:34:19 - The Title of Naghmeh's Book

Naghmeh explains that the title of her book, "I Didn't Survive," reflects the transformation she went through in breaking free from cultural and religious expectations that silenced and oppressed women. She emerged as a new person with a deeper understanding of who God is and the power she possesses.

00:38:20 - Naghmeh's Message to Those Experiencing Abuse

Naghmeh urges anyone experiencing abuse, whether it's in a marriage, church, or any other institution, to prioritize their own well-being and get out of the toxic environment. She emphasizes that God values individuals more than institutions and encourages victims to trust their bodies and seek help.

00:42:55 - Paying Attention to the Body's Signals

Naghmeh highlights the importance of listening to one's body when it comes to recognizing abuse

00:47:20 - The Sacrifice of Putting People First

Naghmeh discusses the importance of prioritizing people and being willing to make sacrifices for them, even if it means losing everything. She emphasizes the simplicity of this concept while acknowledging the challenges it can present.

00:47:43 - Finding Naghmeh and Her Work

Naghmeh shares that she now has a website where people can find information about her and her work in the Middle East. She also mentions that her name can be searched on social media to access more information.

00:48:21 - Gratitude for the Connection

Lori expresses her gratitude for the opportunity to get to know Naghmeh and establish a friendship. She also acknowledges the vulnerability Naghmeh has shown through her writing and shares her appreciation for it.

00:49:06 - Naghmeh's Life as a Butterfly

Lori reflects on Naghmeh's transformation from a caterpillar to a butterfly, symbolizing her freedom and growth. She encourages listeners to find inspiration in Naghmeh's story and highlights the lessons embedded within her narrative.

00:50:43 - Calls to Action for 2024

Lori acknowledges that a story like Naghmeh's can lead us to want to make changes in our own lives whether it's in New Year's Resolutions, goals or saying "goodbye" to last year's ways and "hello" to this year's new ways.

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Join us as we dive into the hidden world of spiritual abuse within church communities, uncovering shocking revelations and the urgent need for justice. But what happens when the very institutions meant to provide solace and support become complicit in perpetuating harm? Tune in to find out what happens next.

If you're feeling frustrated and helpless because your efforts to stop abuse in your church or faith community are being ignored, then you are not alone! You may have already tried reporting the abuse to church leaders or authorities, only to see it swept under the rug or dismissed. Instead of seeing justice and accountability, you may be witnessing the perpetrators being protected and the victims being silenced. It's time to come together and take action to demand change and ensure that everyone in your community is safe and treated with respect.

My special guest is Johnna Harris

(Listen to part 1 of this two-part interview here.)

Johnna Harris, a dedicated advocate and co-host of the Bodies behind the Bus podcast, brings a wealth of experience and empathy to the conversation around spiritual abuse in church and faith communities. Her unwavering commitment to amplifying the voices of survivors and promoting awareness is truly commendable. With a unique blend of personal insight and professional dedication, Johnna's work is making a real impact in the lives of many. Her passion for fostering healing and understanding shines through in her thoughtful approach to advocacy, making her a valuable voice in the ongoing dialogue about supporting survivors and creating positive change within faith spaces.

We have to be willing to say no person is perfect, and no person is above questioning. And our church leaders, our pastors, these ministry organizations, all of them, we have a rubric for what their integrity and character should look like. That has been thrown into survivor faces over and over and over again in the SBC. It's thrown into women's faces. You cannot be here. You cannot be leading if you are a woman, because it needs to be a man. Here's what it says in the Bible. Yet we're not holding them to those standards. All I'm asking people is to actually be consistent and hold our leaders, hold our churches to the standards that we were told matter to them, that we were told matter to God. - Johnna Harris

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Understand how to address Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse.
  • Discover survivor stories and advocacy for change.
  • Embrace the importance of justice and accountability in faith communities.
  • Take action against spiritual abuse within your church.
  • Join a Patreon community for difference-makers in promoting justice.

Hear survivor stories

Listening to survivors' narratives is a powerful way of understanding the gravity and reality of spiritual abuse in faith communities. Each story offers a firsthand perspective that illuminates the complexity and nuance of this issue. It is through these narratives that we can become better allies, advocates, and agents of change within our communities.

Listen to Part 1 of this 2 part interview with Johnna Harris. If youu haven't heard part 1, listen to it here.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Join the Defund the SBC movement by designating your donations to specific areas in your church and asking for transparency on where the money goes, especially in relation to legal fees and image management efforts.
  • Send letters, emails, and make phone calls to church leaders and denomination policymakers to advocate for justice and transparency in handling abuse cases.
  • Follow abuse survivors in the SBC on social media and read their stories to understand the impact and importance of seeking justice for survivors.
  • Consider making a New Year's resolution to actively do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with God in your circle of influence, taking tangible steps to make a difference.
  • Join the Difference Maker community on Patreon to access exclusive episodes and engage in deeper conversations about advocacy and making a difference in various spaces at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference.
  • Key Takeaways:
  • Understand the impact of Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse on individuals and communities.
  • Hear survivor stories and learn about their advocacy efforts for change.
  • Recognize the importance of justice and accountability within faith communities.
  • Take actionable steps to combat spiritual abuse in church settings.
  • Join a Patreon community for difference-makers in promoting justice and accountability in faith communities.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction to Johnna Harris's advocacy work

00:04:02 - Trigger warning and self-care

00:08:47 - Impact of spiritual abuse on women's voices

00:11:45 - Healing journey and self-care

00:13:10 - Connection between Acts 29 and the SBC

00:15:16 - Sexual Abuse Scandals in the SBC

00:16:01 - Corruption Within the SBC

00:17:48 - Samantha Killary's Lawsuit

00:21:49 - Transparency with Cooperative Program Funds

00:30:42 - Hope for Change

00:33:33 - SBC's involvement in thwarting justice

00:35:23 - The role of good people in complicity

00:37:40 - Holding church leaders accountable

00:41:18 - Making wrongs right

00:43:38 - Taking action for justice

00:49:17 - The Power of Stories and Advocacy

00:49:42 - New Year's Resolution for Justice

00:50:22 - Invitation to Do Justice

00:51:05 - Join the Patreon Community

00:52:40 - Reflecting on the Year and Making a Difference

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - Introduction to Johnna Harris's advocacy work

Johnna Harris discusses her advocacy work on behalf of Southern Baptist Convention and the Acts 29 network survivors, focusing on survivors of spiritual abuse themselves.

00:04:02 - Trigger warning and self-care

The host provides a trigger warning for the discussion on abuse and emphasizes the importance of self-care for those who have experienced religious trauma.

00:08:47 - Impact of spiritual abuse on women's voices

Johnna and Lori discuss the silencing of women's voices in some religious spaces, sharing their own experiences and the challenges they faced as women in leadership roles.

00:11:45 - Healing journey and self-care

Johnna shares her healing journey, including therapy and avoiding retraumatization in religious settings, highlighting the importance of self-care for survivors of spiritual abuse.

00:13:10 - Connection between Acts 29 and the SBC

The discussion delves into the connection between the Acts 29 network and the Southern Baptist Convention, shedding light on the lack of robust accountability structures within the SBC and its impact on survivors of spiritual abuse.

00:15:16 - Sexual Abuse Scandals in the SBC

Discussion on the handling of sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) and the numerous lawsuits and scandals related to survivors coming forward.

00:16:01 - Corruption Within the SBC

The Guidepost report findings of corruption within the SBC in handling and reporting sexual abuse cases, with mention of multiple lawsuits in Kentucky.

00:17:48 - Samantha Killary's Lawsuit

Details about Samantha Killary's lawsuit, the entities involved, and the implication of the SBC's intervention potentially affecting other abuse survivors in Kentucky.

00:21:49 - Impact of Cooperative Program Funds

Highlighting the use of Cooperative Program funds for legal actions and the potential negative impact on abuse survivors if the Supreme Court in KY rules in favor of the SBC's stance.

00:30:42 - Hope for Change

Discussion on the challenges of bringing about accountability and change within the SBC and other western evangelical entities, expressing a desire for positive growth within churches.

00:33:33 - SBC's involvement in thwarting justice

Johnna discusses the potential impact of the Southern Baptist Convention's (SBC) amicus brief on the statute of limitations for second-party perpetrators. She highlights the potential consequences for survivors seeking justice and the disturbing reality of justice being thwarted by powerful entities.

00:35:23 - The role of good people in complicity

Johnna emphasizes the complicity of good people in allowing injustice to persist. She urges listeners to educate themselves and take action to hold leaders and organizations accountable for their actions, particularly in cases of abuse and cover-ups.

00:37:40 - Holding church leaders accountable

The conversation delves into the need for consistency in holding church leaders accountable to the standards they espouse. Johnna urges people to consider where their tithes and donations are directed, emphasizing the importance of transparency and responsible stewardship of financial contributions.

00:41:18 - Making wrongs right

The discussion emphasizes the importance of making wrongs right and pursuing justice, rather than succumbing to "himpathy." It calls for a collective effort to address spiritual abuse and hold leaders accountable for their actions, advocating for defunding the SBC as a potentially necessary course of action.

00:43:38 - Taking action for justice

Johnna encourages listeners to take action in various ways, including defunding the SBC legal efforts by designating offerings, seeking transparency in financial contributions, and advocating for abuse survivors. The conversation underscores the need for accountability and highlights the role of individuals

00:49:17 - The Power of Stories and Advocacy

Lori and Johnna emphasize the importance of hearing abuse survivors' stories in the SBC to understand the significance of advocating for justice. They encourage listeners to actively engage in advocacy efforts and share their ideas in a Patreon episode at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference.

00:49:42 - New Year's Resolution for Justice

Lori encourages listeners to make New Year's resolutions focused on doing justice, loving mercy, and walking humbly with God. She emphasizes the importance of actively participating in advocacy efforts within their circle of influence.

00:50:22 - Invitation to Do Justice

Lori invites followers of God to consider how they can do justice within their denominational and church homes. She encourages listeners to join their Patreon community for deeper discussions on advocacy and making a difference.

00:51:05 - Join the Patreon Community

Lori invites listeners to join their Patreon community, where they can access exclusive episodes and engage in conversations about making a difference in their respective spaces. She welcomes individuals from diverse religious backgrounds to share their perspectives.

00:52:40 - Reflecting on the Year and Making a Difference

Lori encourages listeners to reflect on the past year and consider what they want to stop, start, or continue doing. She invites them to connect with her on social media to share their reflections and discuss their plans for making a difference.

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Does the holiday season often leave you feeling overwhelmed and disconnected? Despite being told to simply keep busy and distracted, you still find yourself longing for a deeper sense of joy and connection. The constant hustle and bustle only leave you feeling exhausted and unfulfilled, longing for more meaningful experiences. It's time to explore a new approach that will bring you the peace and connection you've been craving.

My special guest is Leslie Leyland Fields

Leslie Leyland Fields is an internationally renowned teacher, speaker, and award-winning author of 14 books, including "Your Story Matters," "The Wonder Years," and "Crossing the Waters," which earned a Christianity Today Book award in Christian Living. With three graduate degrees in English, journalism, and an MFA in creative nonfiction, Leslie has extensive experience as a founding faculty member of Seattle Pacific University's MFA program. Her books have been translated into nine languages, and her essays have appeared in various publications, earning her several evangelical press awards. Leslie's latest work, "Radiant Birth: Advent Readings for a Bright Season," offers an engaging and unique perspective on the Advent season, making her a valuable guest for today's episode.

We make a difference better together. So let's create meaningful holiday traditions that increase joy and connection during the advent season. - Leslie Leyland Fields

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore the profound insights of "Radiant Birth" for a deeper understanding of Christmas.
  • Embrace the power of stillness to find inner peace and presence during the Advent season.
  • Discover the significance of sharing personal stories for deeper connections and understanding.
  • Spread love and kindness beyond your family circle for a more inclusive and compassionate holiday season.
  • Find hope and resilience by seeking out light even in the most challenging times.

The significance of sharing extends beyond mere giving and receiving during the holiday season. As evidenced by Leslie's vision for her grandchildren's generation, sharing should be about expressing love, not just within family units, but extended to the larger communities. Sharing our stories, experiences, and acts of love can act as a beacon of light in a world needing hope and unity.

Exploring profound insights is a powerful way to understand the enigma of Advent. This can involve delving into the historical, personal, and global impacts of Jesus' birth, as Leslie Leyland Fields discusses in her book, Radiant Birth. Reading such works in the quiet of the dark winter months can bring a brighter perspective and provide refreshing light to our spirits.

Embracing the power of stillness allows each of us to discover and authentically experience the transformative Advent season. As Leslie suggests, even few moments of quietness each day, reading a thought-provoking book or poem, can create a space for connection with God and oneself, combating holiday overwhelm. Cultivating such moments of stillness can nourish our minds and hearts and help us establish meaningful holiday traditions with our families.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit Leslie Leyland Fields' website at www.leslieleylandfields.com to explore her books, writings, and other resources related to writing and storytelling.
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  • Purchase Leslie Leyland Fields' book Radiant Birth: Advent Readings for a Bright Season to experience the collection of literary readings, poems, and stories that bring light and radiance to the Advent season.
  • Consider signing up for Leslie Leyland Fields' writing course or coaching services to receive guidance and support in telling your own story and bringing it to life through writing.
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The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Navigating Difficult Emotions during the Holidays

00:04:34 - Writing Process and Book Selection

00:08:22 - Embracing the Mystery of Advent

00:11:39 - Impact of the Advent Book

00:17:23 - Embracing the Radiance of God's Love

00:17:53 - Overcoming Burnout in Church Culture

00:21:20 - Importance of Stillness and Self-Care

00:23:26 - Empowering People to Tell Their Stories

00:29:22 - Getting Started with Writing

00:31:13 - Meaningful Christmas Traditions

00:34:23 - Reflecting on Family Traditions and Love

00:35:44 - Intentional Tradition-Making

00:37:13 - Love Spreading Beyond Families

00:38:24 - Connecting with Leslie

Join international teacher and author Leslie Leyland Fields as she ignites a new tradition of finding light and love beyond our families this holiday season, inspiring us to create meaningful connections and joy amid darkness and challenges.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Navigating Difficult Emotions during the Holidays

Lori acknowledges that the holidays can be a difficult time for those who have experienced loss, trauma, or abuse. She shares her personal experience of loss on December 26 and encourages listeners to seek help if needed.

00:04:34 - Writing Process and Book Selection

Leslie discusses the process of selecting literary readings, including poems and stories, for the advent book. The book is divided into three sections - Jesus Born in Bethlehem, Jesus Born in Us, and Jesus in Us for the World.

00:08:22 - Embracing the Mystery of Advent

Leslie explains that the book is not a traditional devotional, but rather a collection of readings that invite readers to experience their own profound moments and encounters with the birth of Jesus. She emphasizes the mystery and beauty of God taking on human flesh.

00:11:39 - Impact of the Advent Book

Leslie shares her hope that readers will engage with the book daily, immersing themselves in the radiance and wonder of the season. She encourages readers to use the book as a tool for reflection and meditation, allowing the radiance of Advent to become a part of them beyond the immediate season.

00:17:23 - Embracing the Radiance of God's Love

Leslie expresses her desire for the radiance of God's love to transcend the Advent season and become a part of readers' daily lives. She emphasizes the beauty of God's love and presence in all things

00:17:53 - Overcoming Burnout in Church Culture

Leslie Leyland Fields discusses the challenges of burnout culture in churches and the importance of finding stillness and quiet in the midst of busyness. She emphasizes the need for individuals to take quiet moments for themselves, especially during the Advent season.

00:21:20 - Importance of Stillness and Self-Care

The conversation shifts to the topic of self-care and finding stillness amidst the busyness of life. Leslie Leyland Fields shares her own experiences as a mother and highlights the significance of taking quiet moments to connect with God's love for us.

00:23:26 - Empowering People to Tell Their Stories

Leslie Leyland Fields discusses her philosophy of writing and her approach to coaching authors. She emphasizes the importance of empowering individuals to see the remarkable stories within them and to silence the voices of self-doubt and fear.

00:29:22 - Getting Started with Writing

Leslie Leyland Fields encourages aspiring writers to start by exploring their inner stories. She recommends her book "Your Story Matters" as a simple and profound guide to help individuals begin the writing process and tap into their unique perspectives.

00:31:13 - Meaningful Christmas Traditions

Leslie Leyland Fields shares her favorite Christmas tradition of having a special Christmas Eve dinner with her family. She describes the unique and intentional meals they share, emphasizing the importance of simple and meaningful traditions that bring families together.

00:34:23 - Reflecting on Family Traditions and Love

Leslie shares her childhood experience of not celebrating Christmas, leading her to intentionally create traditions with her family. She highlights the importance of love for one another and spreading it beyond the family unit.

00:35:44 - Intentional Tradition-Making

Leslie emphasizes the significance of intentional tradition-making, sharing her journey from a non-celebratory childhood to anchoring her family with meaningful traditions. Her vision and hope for the future generation are rooted in the four-letter word, love.

00:37:13 - Love Spreading Beyond Families

Leslie expresses her belief that love is not meant to be insular, but rather to bind families together and then propel them to spread love outward into the world. She finds joy in witnessing her children and grandchildren embody this love within their own families.

00:38:24 - Connecting with Leslie

Leslie invites listeners to visit her website, where they can find her writing and coaching services. She shares her experiences as a commercial fisherman in Alaska and encourages people to connect and say hello.

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In the world of religion, Johnna Harris was a shining example of faith and dedication. But behind the facade of her leadership, lies a heartbreaking tale of betrayal and emotional turmoil. As she unravels her journey, Johnna's raw and candid storytelling reveals the devastating impact of religious abuse on her life. But just when it seems like all hope is lost, a surprising turn of events leaves her standing at a crossroads, unsure of what the future holds.

My special guest is Johnna Harris

Johnna Harris serves as the co-host of the "Bodies Behind the Bus" podcast and is an advocate for survivors of religious abuse. Based on her personal experiences as a former staff member at a California church, Johnna actively engages in supporting survivors and recently specifically involved in supporting survivors seeking justice within the Southern Baptist Convention environment. Her involvement with Sacred Wilderness and her consistent presence on social media platforms demonstrates her commitment to listening to survivors' voices and amplifying their stories. With a deep understanding of religious abuse and its devastating effects, Johnna's work reflects her dedication to promoting healing and advocating for change in religious abuse contexts.

I fully relate to and understand why someone wouldn't go there and would say, it's very relatable when you start thinking about Donald Trump. To me, when you think about how the church in America, western evangelicals, really latched on to Donald Trump and said, this is our guy. This is who we're standing behind. This is who God put in office. This is God's candidate. And a lot of us started saying, wait, has anything you've ever said to me been true? - Johnna Harris

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the healing power of professional support for survivors of religious abuse.
  • Uncover the impact of spiritual abuse within religious institutions.
  • Empower yourself through the art of storytelling and advocacy in the journey of healing.
  • Explore the unique challenges faced by women in religious leadership roles.
  • Learn about the devastating effects of religious abuse and how to overcome them.

Discover the healing power

Healing from religious abuse is an essential aspect of reclaiming your life. This healing process often includes seeking professional help, such as the online therapy platform BetterHelp mentioned by host Lori Adams-Brown. Harnessing the healing power by taking care of oneself, working through past trauma, and seeking justice for the injustice committed can be an empowering experience that is crucial in a survivor's journey.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit www.betterhelp.com/difference to get 10% off your first month of professional help through Betterhelp.
  • Tune in to the next episode of the podcast to hear more about the specific issues in the Southern Baptist Convention and Johnna's calls to action for advocacy and change.
  • Take the time to do something nice for yourself today as an act of self-care and self-love. It's important to prioritize your own well-being.
  • Check out the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast to listen to stories of those who have experienced abuse within the Western evangelical church and to be a part of the survivor community.

But the survivor community is coming out of this religious context that's very fundamentalist. And we are definitely playing that out on each other now, outside of that, and I don't think it has to be that way. I think we can choose a better way and I think we can learn nuance. - Johnna Harris

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction to Johnna Harris

00:03:15 - Trigger Warning and Two-Part Episode

00:07:25 - Complementarianism vs. Egalitarianism

00:14:59 - Investigation by Baptist Network

00:16:10 - Founding Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast

00:17:05 - The Complexity of Abuse and Loss of Community

00:19:42 - Betrayal and Community Disbelief

00:22:55 - Faith and Integrity

00:26:49 - Wounded Healers and Nuance

00:34:08 - Johnna's Advocacy Journey

00:35:03 - Johnna's Concerns and Calls to Action

00:36:33 - Using Influence for Good

00:37:55 - Closing Remarks and Call to Action

I'm learning that my voice is okay, like, I can be myself. - Johnna Harris

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction to Johnna Harris

Lori introduces Jonna Harris, the co-host of Bodies behind the Bus podcast, who shares her experiences of spiritual abuse in a religious environment and her advocacy for survivors.

00:03:15 - Trigger Warning and Two-Part Episode

Lori provides a trigger warning for the discussion of spiritual abuse in a religious environment and announces a two-part episode with Jonna, diving into Jonna's experiences and advocacy work.

00:07:25 - Complementarianism vs. Egalitarianism

Johnna explains the difference between complementarianism and egalitarianism in the evangelical church and how it influenced her role as a female worship leader.

00:14:59 - Investigation by Baptist Network

Johnna describes the absurd investigation conducted by a group of pastors from the Pacific church network, which ultimately led to her firing and the mass exodus of the church congregation.

00:16:10 - Founding Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast

Johnna shares how she started the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast after receiving an overwhelming response to a tweet about her experience, highlighting stories of abuse within the Western evangelical church.

00:17:05 - The Complexity of Abuse and Loss of Community

Johnna discusses the complexity of abuse, including gaslighting, grooming, and the loss of community as a survivor. She highlights the additional trauma of being discredited in a church abuse situation and the pain of losing the community she had built.

00:19:42 - Betrayal and Community Disbelief

Johnna shares the heartbreaking experience of being empathized with but also told that there are "two sides" to her story, which made her feel personally attacked and misunderstood. She discusses the pain of losing the community's support and the disbelief survivors often face.

00:22:55 - Faith and Integrity

Johnna reflects on her faith and how it has been tested by the actions of religious leaders. She emphasizes the importance of seeing people who claim Jesus walking in integrity and character, despite the challenges and trauma she has faced.

00:26:49 - Wounded Healers and Nuance

Johnna discusses the issues within the survivor community, where some individuals reenact their traumas onto others instead of healing. She emphasizes the need to embrace nuance and growth as a community and the impact of fundamentalist beliefs on the survivor community's dynamics.

00:34:08 - Johnna's Advocacy Journey

Lori introduces Jonna Harris and acknowledges her advocacy for abuse survivors in religious spaces. Jonna's personal experience has shaped her into an advocate, and Lori highlights the importance of her voice in bringing about change.

00:35:03 - Johnna's Concerns and Calls to Action

Lori highlights Jonna's concerns about issues in the Southern Baptist convention and her calls to action for change. Jonna's advocacy work focuses on centering survivors, seeking justice, and mobilizing others to join in the effort for change.

00:36:33 - Using Influence for Good

Lori emphasizes the impact of using one's influence and platform for advocacy, using Jonna as an example. She encourages listeners to prioritize self-care and extends an invitation to join in for the next episode to learn more about Johnna's involvement and calls to action.

00:37:55 - Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Lori wraps up by urging listeners to take care of themselves and acknowledges their efforts in making a difference. She invites them to tune in for the next episode to delve deeper into Johnna's initiatives, emphasizing the importance of self-care and collective action.

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Does the experience of abuse within religious communities sound familiar to you? Have you been told to simply pray it away and forgive without addressing the pain and trauma you've endured? The weight of carrying this burden alone can be overwhelming, leaving you feeling unheard and powerless. But there is hope for healing and empowerment beyond these ineffective actions.

Brave survivor turned advocate, Norma Braga Venâncio, exposes the export of abuse within Brazil's faith-based spaces, sparking a courageous fight for healing and justice against the very institutions meant to protect.

In the depths of her devotion, she never anticipated the painful truth that awaited her. As she embarked on a journey of healing and self-discovery, she uncovered a reality that shattered her perception of her faith community. The unexpected twist in her story will leave you captivated and yearning for resolution. Join us as we unravel the gripping tale of Norma Braga Venâncio's courageous journey.

My special guest is Norma Braga Venâncio

Norma Braga Venâncio, a theologian, image consultant, and author hailing from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, is a remarkable figure in the domain of women's empowerment and theological discourse. Her profound understanding of the impact of abuse on personal theology, self-esteem, and relationships, backed by her own experiences as an abuse survivor, amplifies the authenticity and depth of her work. Norma's commitment to shedding light on the sensitive intersection of faith and abuse, coupled with her warmth and compassion, makes her an invaluable resource for those seeking healing and empowerment. Through her compelling writing and speaking, Norma has emerged as a guiding light, offering solace and insight to survivors of abuse within religious communities in Brazil and beyond.

We have to be aware and protect the wife above the marriage. - Norma Braga Venâncio

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Uncovering the hidden truth about abuse in religious communities.
  • Understanding the impact of neocolonialist Christianity on self-image and abuse.
  • Embracing a holistic approach to self-esteem for empowerment.
  • Identifying the dangers of religious power and oppression for a safer future.
  • Building safe and healing environments for survivors to thrive.

Understanding the impact

The fallout of abuse is multidimensional, touching not only the survivor's physical space but also their mental, emotional, and spiritual health. Norma's personal journey of navigating the aftermath of abuse offers a raw insight into the lasting damage. Recognizing the need for informed support, she underscores the critical need for both empathetic understanding and professional therapeutic channels for survivors to embark on their path to recovery.

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  • Educate yourself on abuse and trauma by reading books and listening to survivor stories. Understanding the impact of abuse can help you better support survivors in their healing journey.
  • Consider amplifying the voices of abuse survivors and advocating for transparency, truth, and protection within faith-based spaces. Together, we can work towards creating safe and healing environments for all individuals.

Read books about abuse, listen to stories, and let yourself be educated, because it's very important. Abuse is something that you have to be educated. It's not simple to understand. - Norma Braga Venâncio

Embracing a holistic approach

Addressing abuse necessitates a comprehensive approach that considers all facets of human existence, including the cognitive, emotional, and aesthetic dimensions. Norma, amalgamating her theological and image consultation backgrounds, proposes a new paradigm. It includes healing from trauma, restoring self-image, instilling a sense of worth, and reclaiming one's identity as a significant and valued member of the community.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Trigger Warning and Sponsorship Message

00:02:29 - Introduction to Norma Braga Venâncio

00:04:40 - Norma's Personal Journey with Abuse and Theology

00:09:14 - Challenging Traditional Theology and Addressing Abuse

00:15:46 - Impact of Abuse on Women's Perception and Faith

00:21:52 - Neocolonialist Aspect of Christianity

00:23:43 - Theological Insight on Self-Esteem

00:26:43 - Integrating Theology and Image Consultation

00:31:06 - Dangers of Religious Power

00:37:41 - Supporting Survivors of Abuse

00:44:34 - The Church Two Movement in Brazil

00:46:16 - Impact of Abuse on Survivors

00:47:07 - Exposing Abusive Pastors

00:48:53 - The Work of Justice

00:52:55 - Exclusive Interviews and Community

Don't try to save the marriage when you see the wife is being destroyed. Save the wife first. - Norma Braga Venâncio

Uncovering the hidden truth

Abuse within religious communities often remains concealed due to the shroud of respect, trust, and reverence surrounding these institutions. In this episode, Norma Braga Venancio courageously delves into the unspoken issues, revealing the uncomfortable realities. She challenges the status quo, inspiring others to confront hidden truths that could potentially be harbingers of abuse thus, advocating for transparency in religious realms.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Trigger Warning and Sponsorship Message

Lori gives a trigger warning about the discussion of childhood sexual abuse and introduces the episode's sponsor, Betterhelp, before sharing her personal experience with therapy.

00:02:29 - Introduction to Norma Braga Venâncio

Lori introduces Norma Braga Venâncio, highlighting her background as a theologian, image consultant, and abuse survivor. She praises Norma's knowledge, warmth, and expertise in addressing the intersection of theology, self-image, and abuse.

00:04:40 - Norma's Personal Journey with Abuse and Theology

Norma shares her personal experience of realizing her own abuse after attending a conference by Diane Langberg in 2015. She discusses the impact of abuse on her perception of self and faith, leading her to integrate theology and image consultancy to help women.

00:09:14 - Challenging Traditional Theology and Addressing Abuse

Norma discusses her shift in speaking to women about biblical femininity after realizing the impact of abuse. She reflects on the challenges she faced in her community after deciding to publicly address the issue of abuse and pastoral malpractice.

00:15:46 - Impact of Abuse on Women's Perception and Faith

Norma delves into the effects of abuse on a woman's self-perception and her relationship with faith. She emphasizes the need for a theology of image concerning women, highlighting the cultural influence of neopuritanism and its impact on Christian women's

00:21:52 - Neocolonialist Aspect of Christianity

Norma discusses the neocolonialist aspect of Christianity and the impact of exporting cultural aspects to South America, particularly Brazil. She emphasizes the importance of embracing beauty and art in the gospel message.

00:23:43 - Theological Insight on Self-Esteem

Norma delves into her theological research on idolatry, pride, and self-esteem. She emphasizes the significance of a positive self-image and its relationship to abuse, challenging traditional theological perspectives.

00:26:43 - Integrating Theology and Image Consultation

Norma discusses her approach to integrating theology and image consultation to help survivors of abuse rebuild their self-image. She emphasizes the importance of engaging both the left and right brain for healing.

00:31:06 - Dangers of Religious Power

Norma highlights the dangers of religious power and the need for awareness within religious communities. She urges individuals to learn from survivors' stories and educate themselves about abuse to better support survivors.

00:37:41 - Supporting Survivors of Abuse

Norma provides practical advice for supporting survivors of abuse, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing the well-being of the survivor over preserving the marriage. She encourages learning from survivors' stories and educating religious leaders about abuse.

00:44:34 - The Church Two Movement in Brazil

The conversation starts with a discussion about the #ChurchTwo movement in Brazil and the hope for beauty to emerge from the ashes.

00:46:16 - Impact of Abuse on Survivors

The impact of abuse on survivors, including the difficulty in processing trauma and the importance of speaking out and preventing abuse, is highlighted.

00:47:07 - Exposing Abusive Pastors

The discussion shifts to the work of a journalist in the United States who has exposed abusive pastors, and how this has impacted awareness in Brazil.

00:48:53 - The Work of Justice

The importance of justice, restoration, and reconciliation in addressing abuse, and the need for faith-based spaces to be places of healing and protection, is emphasized.

00:52:55 - Exclusive Interviews and Community

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Join me in this thrilling episode of the A World of Difference podcast as I share my unforgettable experience of taking a birthday trip to Rio de Janeiro with my teenager. From attending a Taylor Swift concert to unexpected twists, this journey will leave you hanging on the edge of your seat, wondering how it all unfolds. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride of emotions, because sometimes, even the best-laid plans can take an unexpected turn.

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In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover how to engage teenagers in international birthday trip planning.
  • Learn how to balance independence and guidance effectively.
  • Maximize technology usage to enhance the trip experience.
  • Create unforgettable moments with the power of music.

Involving your teenager in the trip planning not only increases excitement but also ensures the trip aligns with their interests. - Lori Adams-Brown

Engage your teen in trip planning

Making your teenager a part of the trip planning process not only sparks their enthusiasm but also caters to their specific interests, enhancing their overall experience. With their involvement, mutual interests are considered, resulting in a journey that strikes a balance between their preferences and yours. This tactic promotes valuable life skills like decision-making and financial responsibility, setting them up for future success.

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  • Set boundaries and rules around technology use during trips to ensure presence and engagement, while also allowing for capturing special moments through photos and videos.
  • Plan activities and experiences that cater to your teenager's interests, whether it's adventure sports, cultural experiences, or exploring new places.
  • Document your trip by taking photos and videos, and involve your teenager in the process to capture memories that will last a lifetime.
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Finding a win-win destination that caters to both your teenager's preferences and your own is key to a successful birthday trip. - Lori Adams-Brown

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction

Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast episode and explains that she will be discussing her recent trip to Rio de Janeiro with her teenager for their 16th birthday.

00:01:07 - Tip #1: Involve Your Teenager

Lori emphasizes the importance of involving the teenager in the trip planning process to increase excitement and ensure the trip aligns with their interests.

00:03:08 - Tip #2: Consider Destinations for Both

Lori advises considering destinations that cater to both the teenager's preferences and the parent's interests to create a win-win situation. She also emphasizes the importance of balancing fun activities for the teenager with relaxation for both parties.

00:03:53 - Tip #3: Budgeting and Planning

Lori discusses the importance of budgeting and planning for the trip, involving the teenager in financial decision-making, and teaching them financial responsibility. She mentions that travel is a priority for her family and shares her frugal travel tips.

00:07:06 - Tip #4: Balancing Independence and Guidance

Lori highlights the need to find a balance between giving the teenager independence and providing guidance, especially considering their developing frontal lobes. She suggests treating the trip as a "stretch assignment" for the teenager, giving them more freedom but still offering guidance.

00:13:26 - Experiencing Brazil and Taylor Swift Concert

The host shares her experience of traveling to Brazil with her teenagers, trying new foods, and attending a Taylor Swift concert. She mentions the heat wave in Rio, where some people passed out and one person passed away. The concert was initially canceled but was able to proceed on the following night with improved conditions.

00:14:46 - Special Moments at the Concert

The host's teenager received a friendship bracelet from Sabrina Carpenter's mom and a Taylor Swift guitar pick from Taylor Swift's dad at the concert. The host expresses how special it was to experience such moments with her teenagers and overhear them sharing the experience with their friends.

00:15:19 - Planning the Trip to Rio

The host offers to share more details about how she planned the trip, including using points for flights and choosing a hotel in Rio. She mentions the various beach options, such as Copacabana and Ipanema, and the activities they decided to do while in Rio.

00:16:04 - Birthday Trips and Collecting Memories

The host shares that she often asks for a trip for her birthday instead of material gifts, as she values collecting memories and experiences. She encourages listeners to share their own stories and tips for traveling with teenagers, especially for birthday trips.

00:17:35 - Seasonal Celebrations and Self-Care

The host acknowledges the various celebrations happening during the holiday season and encourages listeners to enjoy time with loved ones while

Balancing independence and guidance during the trip creates a valuable opportunity for growth and strengthening the parent-teenager relationship. - Lori Adams-Brown

Discover the magic of Rio

Rio de Janeiro offers a myriad of opportunities for an unforgettable experience, bestowing unforgettable memories and diverse cultural insights. This vibrant Brazilian city enamors visitors with its breathtaking landscapes, diverse culinary scene, and warm local population. Unveiling the magic of Rio during an international birthday trip with a teenager can solidify familial bonds and provide a valuable exposure to a vibrant global culture.

Engage your teen in trip planning

Making your teenager a part of the trip planning process not only sparks their enthusiasm but also caters to their specific interests, enhancing their overall experience. With their involvement, mutual interests are considered, resulting in a journey that strikes a balance between their preferences and yours. This tactic promotes valuable life skills like decision-making and financial responsibility, setting them up for future success.

Strike the perfect balance

Finding the right equilibrium between providing guidance and granting independence to your teenager on a trip can be challenging, yet deeply rewarding. This delicate balance allows them to explore, make decisions, and learn while knowing that your support is readily available. Travel experiences like these can serve as a 'stretch assignment,' allowing your teenager to broaden their horizon while still under the safety net of your presence.

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In a world where silence shrouds the darkness, one woman's journey emerges from the depths of despair. Lydia Matioli's story is a haunting reminder that evil can lurk where we least expect it. From the hands of a trusted pastor to the horrors witnessed by her best friend, Lydia's path is marked by heartbreak and resilience. But as she embarks on a mission to end the cycle of sexual violence, a twist awaits, a twist that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew.

My special guest is Lydia Matioli

Lydia Matioli is a highly accomplished professional in the field of sexual violence prevention and awareness. With a Bachelor of Arts in Gender, Women, and Development Studies and over eight years of experience in program design and community outreach, Lydia has established herself as a knowledgeable and respected figure in the industry. As the Programs and Partnerships Director at Freely and Hope, a nonprofit organization dedicated to ending the cycle of sexual violence in Kenya and Zambia, Lydia plays a pivotal role in designing and implementing effective programs and initiatives. Her work focuses on creating sustainable solutions and empowering abuse survivors and advocates to become leaders in their communities. Notably, Lydia recently released a children's book titled "Pendo's Power," which aims to educate children on recognizing and reporting sexual abuse. With her extensive expertise and commitment to making a difference, Lydia is a valuable guest on the A World of Difference podcast, offering invaluable insights and strategies for increasing awareness and prevention of sexual violence.

I wanted to be a lawyer so that whatever happened to me cannot happen to anyone else. I wanted to be a doctor to support other survivors. - Lydia Matioli

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Learn effective strategies to prevent sexual violence and create a safer environment for your family.
  • Explore the influence of cultural beliefs on sexual violence and gain insights to challenge harmful norms.
  • Discover healing resources and support systems to empower survivors towards their journey of recovery.
  • Understand the importance of community engagement in addressing sexual violence and creating lasting change.
  • Equip children with the knowledge and skills to recognize and respond to abuse, ensuring their safety and well-being.

Healing and Support Options

The journey towards healing following sexual abuse is a tortuous path that necessitates ample support, understanding, and patience. Lydia stresses the importance of survivors being part of support groups like Freely in Hope and having access to referral services. Turning trauma into advocacy, sharing one's story, and challenging unacceptable stigmas are all vital elements of a holistic healing process.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Check out Lydia Matioli's new book, Pendo's Power, a children's book that helps kids recognize and report sexual abuse.
  • Visit the website of Freely and Hope, the organization Lydia works with, to learn more about their programs and initiatives to end sexual violence.
  • If you have experienced abuse or trauma and need professional help, visit BetterHelp.com to find a therapist who can provide support and guidance.
  • Take advantage of the 10% discount on your first month at BetterHelp.com/difference today.
  • Follow Lydia Matioli on social media to stay updated on her work and advocacy efforts.
  • Spread the word about Pendo's Power and the importance of educating children about consent and personal boundaries.
  • Consider volunteering or supporting local organizations that work towards ending sexual violence in your community.
  • Have open and honest conversations with children about consent, personal boundaries, and safe spaces.
  • Educate yourself on the signs of abuse and how to respond if someone discloses their experience to you.
  • Support survivors of abuse by listening, believing, and validating their experiences.

You do not have the right to have sex with a woman. A woman is a human being just like you, with the same rights, just like you. - Lydia Matioli

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:01:13 - Lydia's Work and Book

00:02:29 - Trigger Warning and Sponsor

00:04:33 - Introduction to Lydia Matioli

00:09:08 - Impact of Sexual Violence

00:18:21 - The Influence of Generational Beliefs on Sexual Violence

00:20:20 - Impact on Faith Communities

00:24:17 - Writing "Pendo's Power" to Address Child Sexual Abuse

00:30:31 - Empowering Children in the Face of Abuse

00:36:31 - The Impact of Healing and Advocacy

00:37:35 - The Complexity of Healing

00:39:45 - Best Practices for Healing

00:41:18 - The Power of Storytelling

00:53:54 - Join the World of Difference Community on Patreon

00:54:31 - Make a Difference by Sharing the Podcast

00:54:55 - Help Others Find the Podcast through Reviews

00:54:55 - Take Care of Yourself

00:54:55 - Keep Making a Difference

No one was holding anyone accountable. No one was talking about it. No one was asking the survivors, what's happening with you? - Lydia Matioli

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00:00:02 - Introduction

Host Lori Adams-Brown introduces the podcast and her guest, Lydia Matioli. She highlights Lydia's passion for building platforms for abuse survivors and advocates and discusses Lydia's background growing up in Kibera, Africa's largest slum.

00:01:13 - Lydia's Work and Book

Lori discusses Lydia's work as the Programs and Partnerships Director at Freely and Hope, where she designs and implements programs to address sexual violence. They also talk about Lydia's recently released book, "Pendo's Power," which helps children recognize and report sexual abuse.

00:02:29 - Trigger Warning and Sponsor

Lori gives a trigger warning for the sensitive topic of sexual abuse and introduces the podcast sponsor, BetterHelp, a resource for therapy and counseling. She shares her personal experience with therapy and encourages listeners to seek help if needed.

00:04:33 - Introduction to Lydia Matioli

Lori welcomes Lydia and asks her to share more about her background. Lydia shares that she is a mother, leads programs at Freely and Hope, and grew up in Kibera. She opens up about her personal experiences with sexual abuse and the culture of silence in her community.

00:09:08 - Impact of Sexual Violence

Lydia recounts the story of her best friend who was gang-raped in Kibera and the lack of support and resources available to survivors. She explains how this experience inspired her to start having conversations about sexual violence and led to her advocacy work

00:18:21 - The Influence of Generational Beliefs on Sexual Violence

The guest discusses how the belief systems of previous generations have contributed to the prevalence of sexual violence. Both men and women have been conditioned to believe in retrogressive beliefs, perpetuating a cycle of abuse. The guest emphasizes the need to shift this mindset and promote respect and equality between genders.

00:20:20 - Impact on Faith Communities

The guest shares her personal struggle with faith communities due to her experiences with abuse. Many perpetrators are faith leaders, which has affected her trust and connection with God through the community. She acknowledges the need to find her own ways of practicing her faith and emphasizes the importance of caring for oneself and protecting against further harm.

00:24:17 - Writing "Pendo's Power" to Address Child Sexual Abuse

The guest explains that her experiences as a survivor and as a mother inspired her to write the book "Pendo's Power." The book aims to help children recognize and report sexual abuse by teaching them about body boundaries, consent, and the power of their voice. The guest shares positive feedback and the impact the book is having on children and parents.

00:30:31 - Empowering Children in the Face of Abuse

The conversation highlights the power dynamics between adults and children that often result in the silencing of children's voices. The guest discusses how the book "Pendo's Power" empowers children by validating their experiences and teaching them that their voice matters. The book helps children understand that they have the power to speak up and be

00:36:31 - The Impact of Healing and Advocacy

The guest expresses the importance of giving freedom to survivors of abuse and allowing them to share their stories. They discuss the impact of abuse on mothers and the opportunity for healing and advocacy when their own children reach the age they were when the abuse occurred. They also highlight the need for advocacy within faith communities to protect children.

00:37:35 - The Complexity of Healing

The conversation explores the complexity of healing from sexual violence, particularly when the abusers are often considered "do-gooders" in society. They discuss the difficulty survivors face in being believed due to the perception of their abusers as trustworthy individuals. The guest emphasizes the need for survivors to be part of a supportive community and to access support services.

00:39:45 - Best Practices for Healing

The guest recommends being part of a community of survivors as a key practice for healing. They mention the importance of support groups for survivors and the creation of communities where individuals can share their stories and reclaim lost parts of themselves. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of accessing support services and provide resources for survivors.

00:41:18 - The Power of Storytelling

The conversation highlights the power of storytelling in the healing process. They discuss the need for survivors to have their stories heard, believed, and empathized with. They emphasize the role of Safe communities in providing support and healing. Storytelling is acknowledged as a key element in processing trauma.

00:53:54 - Join the World of Difference Community on Patreon

Join the World of Difference community on Patreon to access extra content, including travel tips from Lori. Share the podcast with others to make a difference and leave a review to help the podcast reach more people.

00:54:31 - Make a Difference by Sharing the Podcast

Share the podcast with someone who could benefit from the conversation. This is one way to make a difference and help others.

00:54:55 - Help Others Find the Podcast through Reviews

Leave a review for the podcast on your preferred platform. This helps others discover the podcast and engage in important conversations.

00:54:55 - Take Care of Yourself

With a lot going on in the world, remember to prioritize self-care. No matter where you are, your actions can make a difference.

00:54:55 - Keep Making a Difference

Despite the challenges, keep striving to make a positive impact in the world. Your efforts matter.

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Cordell Carter, II, the visionary advocate, ignites a revolution of inclusion as he rallies leaders to create a professional learning community, challenging the status quo and dismantling barriers in the pursuit of a fair and just society.

In a world where lawyers and pastors were seen as the pinnacle of service, Cordell Carter had a different calling. His journey on the podcast A World of Difference uncovers the unexpected twist that led him to embrace a secular path of service. Inspired by his family's tradition of kindness and acceptance, Cordell realized that even small acts of compassion could create profound change. Now, as a commissioner for the President Commission on the White House Fellowship, Cordell witnesses firsthand the transformative power of belief and support. Tune in to discover the surprising twist that changed Cordell's life and learn how you too can create lasting change through inclusivity.

My special guest is Cordell Carter, II

Cordell Carter is our insightful guest on today's episode of A World of Difference. With an impressive background in leadership and a passion for creating inclusive organizations, Cordell brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table. As the executive director of the Aspen Institute Socrates Program and the founding director of the Aspen Institute's Project on Belonging, Cordell has worked tirelessly to shift the national conversation on racial equity and inclusion. He has curated numerous off-the-record leadership seminars around the world, reaching thousands of leaders each year. Cordell's work extends beyond borders, as he founded the Festival of the Diaspora in Medellin, Colombia. Join us as we delve into his journey, his insights, and how we can all make a difference together. Get ready to be inspired by Cordell Carter's incredible work in building inclusive organizations and fostering a sense of belonging.

Belonging and thriving are universal desires. It's about pulling in the same direction for everyone, because we cannot afford to move forward as an economy without engaging and cultivating 52% of the population. - Cordell Carter, II

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Enhance your organization's diversity and inclusion efforts to foster a more inclusive workplace that celebrates and values the unique perspectives of every individual.
  • Cultivate a sense of belonging and unity within your organization to create a supportive environment where everyone feels welcomed and valued.
  • Join a professional learning community for leaders to gain insights, share best practices, and collaborate with like-minded professionals in creating inclusive organizations.
  • Discover the powerful connection between diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts and the positive impact they can have on your organization's bottom line.
  • Recognize the importance of self-care and the value of seeking professional help to navigate the challenges and complexities of creating an inclusive organization.

Fostering a Sense of Belonging and Unity

The journey toward diversity and inclusion starts with acknowledging and respecting every individual's desire for acceptance. Cordell believes that creating a sense of belonging within an organization can lead to better outcomes and a more united team. By shifting the focus from mere compliance to the deeper concept of belonging, leaders have the chance of setting up a thriving business that resonates with all its constituents, promoting unity and inclusivity.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit the Aspen Institute Socrates Program's website to learn more about their global education forum and how you can get involved.
  • Explore the Aspen Institute's Project on Belonging to understand their efforts to shift the national conversation on racial equity and inclusion.
  • Check out the Festival of the Diaspora in Medellin, Colombia to discover how they are empowering entrepreneurs, especially women, and making a difference.
  • Register to attend the Festival of the Diaspora in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil at the Grand Sheraton Rio Feb 22-25, 2024
  • Learn about the Techtown Foundation and their work in leadership development and tech.
  • Support the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's initiatives for education and global health.
  • Stay informed about the Seattle Public Schools Business Roundtable and their efforts to improve education in the community.
  • Discover the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools and their advocacy for quality charter schools.
  • Explore the IBM Corporation's initiatives for technology and innovation.
  • Attend one of Cordell Carter's off-the-record leadership seminars to gain insights and network with other leaders.
  • Support organizations that promote diversity, equity, and inclusion in your own community.
  • Take action to address gender pay disparities and advocate for equal pay for women, particularly Latina women.
  • Support women entrepreneurs by investing in their businesses or providing mentorship.

As leaders, it is our fiduciary duty to invest in diversity and inclusion. We need to think about the future and what our customers will look like 35 years down the road. That's where the puck is heading, and that's where we should invest now. - Cordell Carter

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:02:47 - Childhood Dreams

00:05:27 - Separating the Sacred and Secular

00:07:10 - Making a Difference

00:10:14 - Women and Belonging

00:16:16 - Companies' Legal Analysis and Customer Engagement

00:16:52 - The Influence of Women in the Economy

00:17:46 - Collaboration for Positive Change

00:19:00 - Promoting Diversity in Panels and Events

00:21:08 - Economic Development and Women Empowerment

00:22:29 - Challenges in Access to Venture Capital for Women

00:26:51 - Working Towards Belonging and Thriving

00:31:21 - The Development of Singapore

00:32:31 - Building Harmony in Singapore

00:33:33 - Contrasting Singapore with the United States

00:34:47 - The Evolution of the United States

00:39:38 - The Importance of Belonging

00:47:18 - Introduction to Betterhelp

00:47:57 - Reminder to Prioritize Self-care

00:48:35 - Conclusion and Farewell

Creating inclusive organizations requires more work, but it's good work. It forces us to move beyond our comfort levels and embrace diversity. And in the end, it becomes easier to find diverse groups of collaborators because they bring something new to the table. - Cordell Carter

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00:00:02 - Introduction

Cordell Carter is the executive director of the Aspen Institute Socrates Program and the founding director of the Aspen Institute's Project on Belonging. He has held various leadership roles and is dedicated to serving humanity.

00:02:47 - Childhood Dreams

As a child, Cordell aspired to become a lawyer or a pastor. While he didn't pursue a career in ministry, he still feels a calling to serve humanity in a secular way.

00:05:27 - Separating the Sacred and Secular

Cordell believes that caring for humanity shouldn't be limited to religious contexts. He finds joy in seeing others recognize their own potential and helping them believe in themselves.

00:07:10 - Making a Difference

Cordell shares a powerful story about the Festival of the Diaspora in Colombia, where five women entrepreneurs experienced a sense of belonging for the first time in their lives. Through the festival, they received support and funding, leading to the establishment of an independent nonprofit.

00:10:14 - Women and Belonging

Cordell focuses on creating a sense of belonging for women, especially those facing inequalities such as the wage gap and lack of funding. He aims to address these issues through his work and empower women to reach their full potential.

00:16:16 - Companies' Legal Analysis and Customer Engagement

Companies dispute the accuracy of legal analysis and prioritize customer engagement to fulfill fiduciary duty.

00:16:52 - The Influence of Women in the Economy

Examples of successful women in the music and film industry highlight the economic impact of centering experiences of other people.

00:17:46 - Collaboration for Positive Change

Nonprofits, government, and tech companies have the opportunity to come together and make a difference, despite differing opinions.

00:19:00 - Promoting Diversity in Panels and Events

Efforts to include diverse individuals as moderators and participants require extra work but lead to a more inclusive and impactful outcome.

00:21:08 - Economic Development and Women Empowerment

Investing in women's economic development can have a significant impact on communities, and initiatives like pitch competitions support female entrepreneurs.

00:22:29 - Challenges in Access to Venture Capital for Women

The lack of access to venture capital for women creates obstacles, and efforts to shift the conversation on racial equity and inclusion focus on connecting these efforts to the bottom line.

00:26:51 - Working Towards Belonging and Thriving

The goal is to create a society where everyone belongs and has equitable opportunities to thrive, and efforts should focus on defining a destination and celebrating progress towards it.

00:31:21 - The Development of Singapore

Singapore's transformation from a small island with limited infrastructure in 1965 to a developed and prosperous nation with excellent healthcare and education is remarkable. National service played a crucial role in building a sense of unity among Singaporeans, fostering lifelong friendships, and protecting the country from potential threats.

00:32:31 - Building Harmony in Singapore

Singapore's government focused on fostering harmony and unity among its diverse population. National service brought together individuals from different ethnic and religious backgrounds, creating bonds and friendships that lasted beyond their service. The government's emphasis on harmony and social cohesion has helped create a safe and cohesive society.

00:33:33 - Contrasting Singapore with the United States

Contrasting Singapore's approach to national unity with the United States, it becomes apparent that Singapore prioritized inclusivity and harmony, while the United States has a more complex history of exclusion and division. The National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis serves as a reminder of the ongoing work needed to achieve equality and inclusivity in the United States.

00:34:47 - The Evolution of the United States

The United States has evolved over time, from its founding documents like the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution. While no nation is perfect, it is essential to recognize the progress made and strive for a more inclusive future. Inclusive leaders should avoid excluding any group, including middle-aged white men, and focus on data-driven approaches to change.

00:39:38 - The Importance of Belonging

00:47:18 - Introduction to Betterhelp

The host introduces Betterhelp as the sponsor of the podcast and shares her personal experience with therapy through Betterhelp. She mentions the various resources offered by Betterhelp, including one-on-one therapy, group therapy, and classes for specific issues.

00:47:57 - Reminder to Prioritize Self-care

The host thanks all the listeners for making a difference in the world and reminds them to prioritize self-care. She encourages them to take care of their bodies, get rest, and find happiness and joy in their lives.

00:48:35 - Conclusion and Farewell

The host wraps up the podcast episode by reminding listeners to continue making a difference wherever they are. She says goodbye and signs off.

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Does this sound familiar? Have you been told that in order to advance in your tech leadership career, you need to simply work harder and prove yourself? But despite your efforts, you still feel like you're hitting a glass ceiling, struggling to break through and achieve the success you deserve. If this resonates with you, it's time to break free from the ineffective action of solely relying on hard work and discover the strategies and insights that will truly propel your career forward. Stop the frustration and unlock the keys to success as a woman in tech leadership.

My special guest is Limor Bergman Gross

Limor Bergman Gross is a highly accomplished professional in the tech industry, boasting over 20 years of experience as an engineer, manager, and director of engineering and Tech IT. Throughout her career, she has worked in both Israel and the United States, gaining valuable insights into the tech landscapes of both countries. In addition to her technical expertise, Limor has developed a deep passion for mentoring and supporting women in tech. Over the past five years, she has dedicated her time and expertise to empowering women and helping them navigate their careers in the male-dominated tech industry. With her extensive background in tech leadership and her own experiences as a working mom, Limor brings a unique perspective to her mentoring and coaching approach. Her mission is clear: to help more women break through barriers and reach top leadership positions in the tech world. Limor Bergman Gross is a true advocate for women in tech leadership, offering valuable guidance and support to help them achieve their professional goals.

Surround yourselves with good, supportive people. Stick to what you know and be moldable. You can't control the curveballs life throws at you, but you can control how you respond. - Lemor Bergman Gross

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Enhance your leadership skills and thrive in tech: Discover strategies for success as a woman in tech leadership.
  • Stand out in the job market with a compelling LinkedIn profile: Learn how to build a strong personal brand and attract opportunities.
  • Thrive in a remote work environment and lead global teams: Overcome challenges and excel in virtual collaboration.
  • Network like a pro as an introvert: Unlock strategies to confidently connect with others and grow your professional network.
  • Navigate difficult conversations and address performance issues: Develop the skills to handle tough situations with confidence and empathy.

Mastering tech leadership as a woman involves overcoming internal and external obstacles. Internal challenges can be self-doubt and lack of confidence, while externally, women may face biases and stereotypes. It's crucial for women to envision themselves in leadership roles, believe in their unique abilities, and strive for resilience.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit Limor Bergman Gross's website: Explore Limor's website to learn more about her work in mentoring women in tech and her strategies for career development. The website may provide additional resources and information for women looking to advance in their careers.
  • Sign up for Limor's mentoring program: If you're a woman in tech looking for guidance and support in advancing your career, consider signing up for Limor's mentoring program. This program may provide personalized advice, coaching, and support to help you reach your goals.
  • Attend Limor's workshops and webinars: Limor may offer workshops and webinars on topics related to career development in the tech industry. Check her website or social media channels for upcoming events that you can attend to gain valuable insights and strategies for advancing your career.
  • Share this podcast episode with others: If you found this podcast episode valuable, share it with your colleagues, friends, or anyone else who could benefit
  • Connect with Limor on social media: Follow Limor on social media platforms such as LinkedIn, Twitter, or Facebook to stay updated on her latest articles, insights, and resources for women in tech. Engage with her content and join the conversation to connect with other like-minded professionals.

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The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:02:31 - Lemore's Career Journey

00:07:31 - Overcoming Bias and Challenges

00:11:00 - Balancing Family and Career

00:11:25 - Obstacles to Women in the C-suite

00:16:15 - Job Search Strategy

00:17:41 - Maintaining a Positive Mindset

00:18:55 - Navigating Job Loss

00:21:07 - Importance of Remote Work for Women

00:25:39 - Building Relationships with Remote Global Teams

00:28:01 - Delegating Effectively

00:32:25 - Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

00:34:09 - Having Difficult Conversations

00:37:59 - The Importance of Listening

00:39:40 - The Power of Role Models

00:42:45 - Living in Israel

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - Introduction

The host introduces the guest, Limor Bergman Gross, who has spent over 20 years working in tech and is now dedicated to mentoring women in the industry and helping them reach the C-suite.

00:02:31 - Lemore's Career Journey

Limor talks about her career journey as a software engineer, her move to the US, and her decision to focus on mentoring and supporting women in tech.

00:07:31 - Overcoming Bias and Challenges

Limor discusses the performance bias and stereotypes she faced as a woman in tech, both in Israel and the US. She emphasizes the importance of rising above biases and making choices that empower oneself.

00:11:00 - Balancing Family and Career

Limor shares her experience of navigating the challenges of expanding her family while pursuing her career. She highlights the need for women to consider the impact of family decisions on their career progression.

00:11:25 - Obstacles to Women in the C-suite

Limor identifies internal obstacles, such as self-doubt and lack of role models, as well as external obstacles, such as biases in the workplace, that prevent women from reaching the C-suite. She emphasizes the importance of building confidence and creating a sense of belonging.

00:16:15 - Job Search Strategy

Look at job descriptions to understand what employers are looking for and highlight your skills that align with their needs. Invest in building your LinkedIn profile and network for long-term success.

00:17:41 - Maintaining a Positive Mindset

Even during difficult times, there are always opportunities out there. Adopt a mindset of abundance and surround yourself with supportive people. Volunteering and mentoring can boost confidence and help identify valuable skills.

00:18:55 - Navigating Job Loss

Losing a job can be a grief process, but it's important to remember that it's okay to grieve. Surround yourself with supportive people and avoid negative influences. Volunteering and mentoring can build confidence and provide opportunities for networking.

00:21:07 - Importance of Remote Work for Women

Remote work is essential for women who often juggle unpaid labor at home. Companies should focus on improving the onboarding process for remote employees, being deliberate in setting expectations, and ensuring regular check-ins to build trust and relationships.

00:25:39 - Building Relationships with Remote Global Teams

Understanding cultural differences is key when working with remote teams from different cultures. Be curious and ask questions to understand their motivations, work preferences, and goals. Building trust requires open communication and avoiding assumptions.

00:28:01 - Delegating Effectively

Delegating is an acquired skill. Assess the impact of your tasks and delegate those that can be

00:32:25 - Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

Conferences and events can be challenging for introverts, but it's important to push yourself to attend and network. Find topics you feel comfortable discussing and look for opportunities to collaborate with others who share your passions.

00:34:09 - Having Difficult Conversations

When faced with performance issues in your team, stick to facts and avoid being emotional or opinionated. Start by sharing observations and then give the other person space to respond. Be open-minded and work together to set clear expectations and find solutions.

00:37:59 - The Importance of Listening

Good leadership involves deep listening, where you listen to understand rather than just hearing. Using data and observations, have a dialogue with your team member to understand their perspective and find solutions together.

00:39:40 - The Power of Role Models

Having role models who embody the qualities you admire can inspire and motivate you to become a better leader. It's especially important for women to see female role models in leadership positions to break the glass ceiling.

00:42:45 - Living in Israel

Leymore shares her perspective on living in Israel during times of conflict and offers insights on how we can be helpful. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the situation and being compassionate towards those affected by the conflict.

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In a world where women's voices are marginalized, join Liz Cooledge Jenkins as she challenges patriarchal structures in evangelicalism and empowers women to reclaim their humanity. But will she be able to make a difference in a system resistant to change? Discover the shocking truth in this gripping journey of faith and advocacy.

My special guest is Liz Cooledge Jenkins

Liz Cooledge Jenkins is not your typical preacher and writer. With a BS in Symbolic Systems from Stanford and a Master of Divinity, Liz brings a unique blend of intellect and spirituality to her work. She is passionate about challenging patriarchal norms within evangelicalism and advocating for gender equality in religious communities. Through her writing, Liz fearlessly delves into the complex issues surrounding women's rights and roles in the church. Her book, "Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism," is a powerful exploration of her own journey and experiences within the evangelical world. With a mix of personal narrative and insightful analysis, Liz offers a fresh perspective on how we can create faith communities that are inclusive, just, and life-giving for everyone. Prepare to be inspired and empowered as Liz Cooledge Jenkins invites you to join her in reclaiming women's humanity and transforming the religious landscape.

Even if progress has been made, there's still work to do. We deserve full equality and we won't settle for anything less. - Liz Cooledge Jenkins

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore the journey of reclaiming women's humanity from the confines of evangelicalism and discover the power of personal liberation.
  • Gain insight into the unique challenges faced by women in faith communities and uncover strategies to overcome these obstacles.
  • Discover the transformative impact of women's perspectives in religious contexts and cultivate a more inclusive and diverse approach to theology and spirituality.
  • Learn how to challenge patriarchal power structures within evangelicalism and foster a community that promotes equality and justice for all.
  • Find inspiration and practical guidance on self-care practices to navigate the trauma and oppression often experienced within religious contexts.

Amplifying Women's Voices

The importance of amplifying women's voices is a primary factor in challenging and shifting age-old patriarchal structures, particularly within evangelical contexts. Women's experiences, insights, and perspectives can bring a fresh understanding and significant contributions to religious and societal discourses. Actively seeking and valuing women's voices is a crucial step toward attaining gender equality and smashing restrictive norms.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

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  • Check out Liz Cooledge Jenkins' new book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism.

Read Liz Cooledge Jenkins' writings on Patheos at Always Reforming and on her personal blog at lizcooledgejenkins.com

Follow Liz Cooledge Jenkins on Feminism and Religion for her regular contributions. She has a Substack newsletter at: Growing Into Kinship: https://growingintokinship.substack.com/

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  • Consider incorporating more narrative storytelling into your own writing and communication to engage and connect with others.
  • Reflect on your own experiences with gender and faith and consider how they have shaped your perspective.
  • Encourage women to define what is best for themselves and to reject patronizing attitudes that limit their potential.

When good people do nothing, that's when evil thrives.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction and Sponsorship

00:02:00 - Introduction of Liz Cooledge Jenkins

00:05:06 - Writing Style and Personal Narrative

00:07:48 - Dave's Comment on Women in Ministry

00:10:49 - Reflection on College Experience

00:15:20 - Neutrality and its Impact on Women in the Church

00:16:40 - The Threat of Speaking Up

00:18:22 - Marginalizing Voices of Change

00:19:59 - The Importance of Advocacy

00:21:54 - The Impact of the Barbie Movie on Gender Equality

00:30:47 - Rethinking Leadership and Gender

00:33:23 - Navigating Challenges in Evangelical Spaces

00:36:25 - Dealing with Silencing and Marginalization

00:37:58 - Reflecting on Experiences and Finding Empowerment

00:41:24 - Calls to Action for Male Pastors

00:47:14 - The Importance of Women's Perspectives

00:47:57 - Liz's Experience in Seminary

00:48:47 - Book Recommendation: "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy"

00:49:11 - Difference Maker Community and Deeper Conversations

00:49:50 - Self-Care and Taking a Break

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00:00:02 - Introduction and Sponsorship

Lori introduces the podcast and the sponsor, BetterHelp.com, which offers therapy services. She shares her positive experience with therapy and encourages listeners to take advantage of the 10% off offer.

00:02:00 - Introduction of Liz Cooledge Jenkins

Lori introduces Liz Cooledge Jenkins as a writer, preacher, and former college campus minister. She mentions Liz's educational background and her writing contributions to various publications. Lori also mentions Liz's new book, "Nice Churchy Patriarchy."

00:05:06 - Writing Style and Personal Narrative

Lori discusses how Liz chose to incorporate personal narratives into her book and why she believes stories are powerful. They also touch on the challenge of making academic writing accessible to a broader audience.

00:07:48 - Dave's Comment on Women in Ministry

Liz shares an experience from her college years when a church member named Dave made a patronizing comment about women in ministry. She reflects on how it made her feel and the importance of women defining what is best for themselves.

00:10:49 - Reflection on College Experience

Lori asks Liz how she felt during that jarring experience as a college student and what she would say to her younger self. Liz expresses her shock and the lack of words to respond at the time, but affirms that her feelings were valid.

00:15:20 - Neutrality and its Impact on Women in the Church

The discussion begins with the question of neutrality and its implications. The guest shares her experience in a patriarchal church and how it made it difficult for any change to occur. Speaking up for gender equality was often seen as causing trouble.

00:16:40 - The Threat of Speaking Up

The conversation delves into the fear that speaking up against the system poses for those in power. Drawing parallels to the Civil Rights Movement, the guest emphasizes the importance of raising questions and advocating for change, even if it disrupts the status quo.

00:18:22 - Marginalizing Voices of Change

The guest recounts the experience of a woman in her church who faced labeling and marginalization for pushing for gender equality. Many voices that advocate for change are squashed and silenced. It highlights the significance of those who can speak out about their experiences.

00:19:59 - The Importance of Advocacy

The conversation addresses the misconception that women should be content with their relatively better situation compared to others. The guest emphasizes the need for equality and justice, and how it is essential to dream and work towards a better world for women.

00:21:54 - The Impact of the Barbie Movie on Gender Equality

The guest reflects on the Barbie movie and its impact on addressing patriarchy directly. The powerful speech by America Ferrera's character resonated with many, highlighting the impossible expectations and the need for women to be empowered to be their

00:30:47 - Rethinking Leadership and Gender

The conversation explores the socialization of women and the need to redefine what a leader looks like in terms of gender and style. It emphasizes the importance of considering women's ambitions and assertiveness positively and reexamining assumptions about leadership and gender roles.

00:33:23 - Navigating Challenges in Evangelical Spaces

The discussion delves into the challenges faced by women in evangelical spaces and the difficulty of speaking up for equality. It suggests embracing agency, having conversations about experiences, and being open to the possibility of leaving if necessary to find spaces where women's gifts are valued.

00:36:25 - Dealing with Silencing and Marginalization

The conversation acknowledges the silencing and marginalization experienced by women who advocate for equality. It encourages women to find communities that take them seriously and honor their value. It reassures them that leaving an unsupportive environment is not walking away from faith and that God is present in the journey of change.

00:37:58 - Reflecting on Experiences and Finding Empowerment

Reflection on difficult experiences, even when women are aware that others have it worse, is deemed important. It highlights the value of processing and not being afraid to take seriously the things that feel wrong. Exploring resources from different thinkers and finding empowering expressions of faith is also recommended.

00:41:24 - Calls to Action for Male Pastors

Male pastors are urged to seek feedback from women in their congregations and

00:47:14 - The Importance of Women's Perspectives

The speaker acknowledges that exposure to new communities can sometimes stifle curiosity, especially in faith communities. She highlights the importance of women's perspectives, even those that contradict dominant viewpoints, in order to create a more equitable and wonderful world.

00:47:57 - Liz's Experience in Seminary

The speaker mentions Liz's book and her journey of trying to find her voice as a woman in seminary classes that were not always supportive. She emphasizes the need for women's opinions in churches, classrooms, and society at large.

00:48:47 - Book Recommendation: "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy"

The speaker recommends Liz's book, "Nice. Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism," and encourages listeners to read it for themselves. The book delves into issues of patriarchy and the importance of women's perspectives.

00:49:11 - Difference Maker Community and Deeper Conversations

The speaker invites listeners to join the Difference Maker community and announces that Liz will be a part of exclusive conversations there. The community offers additional content and a platform for deeper discussions on the topics addressed in the podcast.

00:49:50 - Self-Care and Taking a Break

The speaker emphasizes the importance of self-care, particularly for those dealing with trauma or working in challenging environments. She encourages listeners to do something nice for themselves and take a break as a way to recharge and prioritize their well-being.

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In the depths of despair, Naghmeh Panahi's story holds an unexpected twist that will leave you breathless. From the war-torn streets of her homeland to the foreign shores of America, she battled not just with oppression, but with her own sense of belonging. But it was when her husband faced imprisonment in Iran that her life took a dramatic turn, revealing a truth so shocking it will make you question everything. Prepare yourself for a journey of resilience, as Naghmeh's story unravels with a heart-wrenching open loop, leaving you eager to discover the strength she found to break free.

My special guest is Naghmeh Panahi.

We are thrilled to welcome Naghmeh Panahi to the A World of Difference podcast. Naghmeh's story is one of incredible strength and resilience in the face of abuse. Having experienced domestic violence and spiritual abuse within religious institutions, she has become a beacon of hope for survivors. Her book, "I Didn't Survive: Emerging Whole After Deception, Persecution, and Hidden Abuse," is a testament to her courage and determination. Naghmeh's journey from an immigrant Muslim girl from Iran to an advocate for women and children impacted by domestic abuse is truly inspiring. Through her foundation, Tahir Al Nisa, she is making a profound impact on the lives of those who have experienced similar traumas. We are honored to have Naghmeh share her story and insights on the podcast, as she empowers others to break free from abusive relationships and find their voice. Get ready for an episode filled with empowerment and inspiration.

As we go through the fires of trials, we don't really survive. A lot of our way of thinking or things we didn't see before, like abuse or different things just come to light and our old self doesn't survive and we become a new person. - Naghmeh Panahi

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the courage and strength of Naghmeh Panahi as she shares her powerful story of surviving abuse within a religious institution.
  • Uncover the hidden nature of abuse within religious institutions and gain a deeper understanding of the complexities involved.
  • Find hope and inspiration as you learn about the healing and recovery process for survivors of abuse within religious institutions.
  • Gain knowledge and insight into advocating for change and holding religious institutions accountable for their actions.
  • Empower yourself to break free from abusive relationships within religious institutions and create a life of freedom and authenticity.

Uncover the Hidden Abuse

Abuse takes many forms, and often, the emotional and verbal types remain hidden from sight. In religious institutions, the power dynamics can foster such mistreatment, which goes unnoticed or is deliberately neglected. Understanding the nuanced ways in which abuse can manifest is vital to identify victims and offer them the necessary support and resources.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Listen to the A World of Difference podcast episode featuring Naghmeh Panahi's inspiring story of survival and redemption.
  • Purchase Naghmeh Panahi's book, I Didn't Survive: Emerging Whole After Deception, Persecution and Hidden Abuse, available now. https://naghmehpanahi.com/
  • Support the Tahir Al Nisa foundation, co-founded by Naghmeh Panahi, which serves women and children impacted by domestic abuse by visiting their website and donating. https://www.tahriralnisa.org/about/naghmeh-panahi/
  • Learn more about the immigrant experience and the trauma faced by refugees by attending trauma recovery weekends and workshops led by experts like Naghmeh Panahi's husband.
  • Explore the Persian culture and attend events like the Iranian New Year Festival to experience the rich traditions and learn about the history.
  • Get involved in human rights advocacy by supporting organizations like Amnesty International and sending postcards to individuals in jail in Iran.
  • Reflect on your own identity and the impact of being a third culture kid by exploring resources and joining support groups for individuals who have similar experiences.
  • Educate yourself on domestic abuse and its impact by reading books and articles, attending workshops, and supporting organizations that provide resources and support for survivors.
  • Share Naghmeh Panahi's story

Abusive governments or abusive people try to control you think they try to control weak people, but it's actually sometimes it's trying to restrain strong people... women are really strong and that's why the government is so focused on shutting them down. - Naghmeh Panahi

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:01:38 - Nagme's Background and Book

00:05:17 - Writing the Book to Help Others

00:07:06 - Immigrant Experience

00:11:41 - Identity as a Third Culture Kid

00:16:03 - Strength of Iranian Women

00:18:11 - Restriction and Fear in the Middle East

00:19:28 - Strong Women and Resistance to Oppression

00:20:53 - Inspiring Women in the Middle East

00:22:19 - Domestic Violence and Speaking Out

00:31:45 - Naghmeh's Hope for Franklin Graham

00:33:27 - Naghmeh's Thoughts on Franklin Graham

00:34:19 - The Title of Naghmeh's Book

00:38:20 - Naghmeh's Message to Those Experiencing Abuse

00:42:55 - Paying Attention to the Body's Signals

00:47:20 - The Sacrifice of Putting People First

00:47:43 - Finding Naghmeh and Her Work

00:48:21 - Gratitude for the Connection

00:49:06 - Naghmeh's Life as a Butterfly

00:50:43 - Scars of Abuse

Even when you have a strong force coming against you, whether it's government or it's a religious institution or whatever, you have to really be strengthened even more, be stronger to break through. - Naghmeh Panahi

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction

The host introduces the podcast episode and provides a trigger warning for the guest's discussion of abuse. Listeners are advised to prioritize their mental health while listening to the episode.

00:01:38 - Nagme's Background and Book

Nagme Panahi is introduced as a remarkable woman who has experienced various forms of abuse. Her book, "I Didn't Survive," details her journey of emerging whole after deception, persecution, and hidden abuse.

00:05:17 - Writing the Book to Help Others

Nagme shares that she wrote her book to help others who may be going through similar trials and to share her story of renewal and transformation through suffering.

00:07:06 - Immigrant Experience

Nagme discusses her experience as an immigrant from Iran, highlighting the challenges of adjusting to a new culture and feeling like she didn't fit in. She also reflects on the trauma of war and the limited resources in her home country.

00:11:41 - Identity as a Third Culture Kid

Nagme shares the difficulties of navigating her identity as a third culture kid, feeling neither fully Iranian nor fully American. She discusses the unique perspective and mindset that come with living between cultures.

00:16:03 - Strength of Iranian Women

The guest discusses the stereotypes and misconceptions about Iranian women, highlighting their strength and resilience. She shares stories of Iranian women breaking barriers and standing up against oppression.

00:18:11 - Restriction and Fear in the Middle East

The conversation shifts to the restrictions faced by women in the Middle East, particularly in Afghanistan. The guest emphasizes that these restrictions are a sign of fear from those in power towards strong women who may bring about change.

00:19:28 - Strong Women and Resistance to Oppression

The guest mentions several strong Iranian women who have stood up to oppressive governments and religious institutions. She highlights the importance of strength and resilience when facing challenges and how these women have become voices for change.

00:20:53 - Inspiring Women in the Middle East

The host shares her experiences meeting incredible women in the Middle East, including Malala, and hearing their stories of education and empowerment. She acknowledges the threat these women pose to those who want to suppress their voices.

00:22:19 - Domestic Violence and Speaking Out

The guest opens up about her experience of domestic violence from her husband, who was seen as a Christian hero. She discusses the challenges of speaking out and the strength she found within herself to set boundaries and break free from the abuse.

00:31:45 - Naghmeh's Hope for Franklin Graham

Naghmeh expresses her desire for Franklin Graham to use his platform to advocate for abuse survivors and bring awareness to the issue within the church. She hopes that he will repent of his harmful views and become an ally in the fight against abuse.

00:33:27 - Naghmeh's Thoughts on Franklin Graham

Naghmeh clarifies that while she doesn't currently like Franklin Graham, she doesn't hate him either. She believes that his way of thinking is harmful and hopes that he will change his perspective and become an advocate for abuse survivors.

00:34:19 - The Title of Naghmeh's Book

Naghmeh explains that the title of her book, "I Didn't Survive," reflects the transformation she went through in breaking free from cultural and religious expectations that silenced and oppressed women. She emerged as a new person with a deeper understanding of who God is and the power she possesses.

00:38:20 - Naghmeh's Message to Those Experiencing Abuse

Naghmeh urges anyone experiencing abuse, whether it's in a marriage, church, or any other institution, to prioritize their own well-being and get out of the toxic environment. She emphasizes that God values individuals more than institutions and encourages victims to trust their bodies and seek help.

00:42:55 - Paying Attention to the Body's Signals

Naghmeh highlights the importance of listening to one's body when it comes to recognizing abuse

00:47:20 - The Sacrifice of Putting People First

Naghmeh discusses the importance of prioritizing people and being willing to make sacrifices for them, even if it means losing everything. She emphasizes the simplicity of this concept while acknowledging the challenges it can present.

00:47:43 - Finding Naghmeh and Her Work

Naghmeh shares that she now has a website where people can find information about her and her work in the Middle East. She also mentions that her name can be searched on social media to access more information.

00:48:21 - Gratitude for the Connection

Lori expresses her gratitude for the opportunity to get to know Naghmeh and establish a friendship. She also acknowledges the vulnerability Naghmeh has shown through her writing and shares her appreciation for it.

00:49:06 - Naghmeh's Life as a Butterfly

Lori reflects on Naghmeh's transformation from a caterpillar to a butterfly, symbolizing her freedom and growth. She encourages listeners to find inspiration in Naghmeh's story and highlights the lessons embedded within her narrative.

00:50:43 - Scars of Abuse

Lori acknowledges the scars left by emotional, verbal, psychological, and spiritual abuse, even when they are not physically visible. She praises Naghmeh's resilience and commitment to raising awareness about abuse and dismantling systems that enable it.

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If you're feeling frustrated and overwhelmed by the lack of collaboration and creativity in your team, despite implementing countless team-building exercises and brainstorming sessions, then you are not alone! Instead of the result you're looking for, you may be experiencing a stagnant workplace culture where employees are afraid to speak up and take risks due to a lack of psychological safety.

Lori Adams-Brown is not your average podcast host. With a background in global leadership and development, she's a true expert in the field of psychological safety in the workplace. Having worked with diverse industries and organizations, Lori understands the challenges faced by managers and leaders in creating a culture of inclusivity and well-being. What sets Lori apart is her genuine passion for making a difference. She's not just here to talk about psychological safety - she's lived it. Through her own experiences and encounters with individuals who have endured workplace bullying and toxic environments, Lori has seen firsthand the impact of psychological safety on employee well-being and overall productivity. Her expertise has taken her across the globe, training workshops and sharing insights from the Center for Creative Leadership. With her A World of Difference podcast, Lori aims to empower managers and leaders with practical strategies and tips to foster psychological safety and create a workplace where everyone can thrive.

Creating a culture of psychological safety is not just important, it's crucial for individual growth, innovation, and career development. - Lori Adams-Brown

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Enhance workplace culture by fostering psychological safety and promoting a sense of belonging among your employees.
  • Gain fresh insights and innovative ideas by embracing diverse perspectives in your organization.
  • Increase productivity and employee satisfaction through a culture of open communication, where every voice is heard and valued.
  • Resolve conflicts in a constructive and respectful manner, fostering a positive and harmonious work environment.
  • Lead by example and create a safe space for your team to express their thoughts and ideas without fear of judgment.
  • Cultivate an inclusive workplace where everyone feels valued and respected, resulting in improved employee well-being and engagement.
  • Create a culture of psychological safety, allowing your team to take risks, collaborate effectively, and innovate.
  • Harness the power of diverse perspectives to drive creativity, problem-solving, and business success.
  • Foster open communication and transparency to build trust, strengthen relationships, and improve overall team performance.
  • Resolve conflicts in a productive manner, promoting healthy work relationships and maintaining a positive work environment.
  • Lead by example in nurturing psychological safety, cultivating an environment where individuals feel empowered to speak up and be authentic.

Embracing Diverse Perspectives

Innovation in the workplace thrives when diverse perspectives are not merely respected, but actively sought out. Employees from varying backgrounds bring unique insights and approaches, which can lead to breakthroughs in problem-solving and creativity. Encouraging diversity of thought supports a more inclusive work environment, drives growth, and reflects positively on the company culture.

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  • Check out the Center for Creative Leadership's website to learn more about their research-based content on leadership and development. They offer workshops and training programs that can help create a culture of psychological safety in your workplace.
  • Consider attending the Restore Conference to connect with others who have experienced workplace bullying and to gain resources and support for healing. This conference provides a safe space for individuals to share their stories and learn strategies for overcoming trauma.
  • Take the time to assess your own workplace and evaluate the level of psychological safety. Are there areas where improvement is needed? Consider implementing some of the tips mentioned in the LinkedIn Live session to create a more psychologically safe environment for yourself and your colleagues.
  • Educate yourself on the topic of psychological safety by reading books, articles, and research papers on the subject. This will help you gain a deeper understanding of its importance and how to promote it in your workplace.
  • Reflect on your own leadership style and consider how you can lead by example in creating a psychologically safe environment.

Psychological safety is the number one factor in team performance. It affects everything from well-being to productivity, motivation, and employee engagement.

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The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction

00:01:36 - Importance of Psychological Safety

00:03:19 - Learnings from the Restore Conference

00:04:25 - Psychological Safety in California and Me Too Movement

00:08:17 - Introduction to LinkedIn Live Podcast

00:15:03 - Importance of Diversity of Thought

00:16:02 - Honoring Truth Tellers

00:17:59 - Learning from Failure

00:19:26 - Creating a Culture of Innovation

00:22:59 - Clear Communication

00:30:17 - Creating Systems to Eliminate Bullying

00:31:05 - Embracing Productive Conflict

00:32:17 - Norms Around Conflict Management

00:33:38 - Commitment to Psychological Safety

00:36:08 - Benefits of Psychological Safety

Leading by example is key. We must demonstrate vulnerability, admit our mistakes, and foster open and honest communication to create a psychologically safe workplace. - Lori Adams-Brown

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction

Lori Adams-Brown introduces the podcast episode and talks about her recent experience speaking at the Restore Conference in Chicago. She emphasizes the importance of psychological safety in the workplace and how it affects individuals across different industries and cultures.

00:01:36 - Importance of Psychological Safety

Lori reflects on her experiences in various workplaces and highlights the significance of psychological safety in creating healthy and productive work environments. She discusses the intersection of her work in tech and her previous experiences in non-profit, faith-based, and government organizations.

00:03:19 - Learnings from the Restore Conference

After attending the Restore Conference and hearing stories of workplace trauma, Lori shares the impact it had on her and the importance of providing resources for healing. She discusses the upcoming workshop she will be leading on "Listen to Understand" and how it contributes to psychological safety.

00:04:25 - Psychological Safety in California and Me Too Movement

Lori talks about the relevance of psychological safety in California, particularly in light of the #MeToo movement that exposed the psychologically and physically unsafe environments in Hollywood. She emphasizes the need to focus specifically on psychological safety and its connection to the overall well-being and growth of individuals and organizations.

00:08:17 - Introduction to LinkedIn Live Podcast

Lori introduces her LinkedIn Live session on psychological safety and invites viewers to join the conversation. She briefly mentions the importance of mental health awareness and shares that she will be providing 17 tips on creating psychological safety in the workplace.

00:15:03 - Importance of Diversity of Thought

Encouraging diverse perspectives leads to more innovative solutions and helps organizations stay relevant in a changing world.

00:16:02 - Honoring Truth Tellers

Organizations should show compassion and genuine curiosity towards those who speak up and challenge the status quo. Honoring truth tellers helps avoid blind spots and promotes innovation.

00:17:59 - Learning from Failure

Organizations should create an environment where mistakes are seen as opportunities for growth. Openly sharing lessons learned from mistakes encourages psychological safety and innovation.

00:19:26 - Creating a Culture of Innovation

Organizations should establish spaces for new and out-of-the-box ideas. Leaders should be open to questioning and encourage risk-taking to foster innovation.

00:22:59 - Clear Communication

Clear communication helps build psychological safety and prevents misunderstandings. Listening to understand and promoting dialogue are important for effective communication in the workplace.

00:30:17 - Creating Systems to Eliminate Bullying

The importance of establishing systems that promote zero tolerance for bullying and provide clear guidelines for reporting and consequences is emphasized. It is crucial to create a culture where witnesses of bullying feel safe to report incidents to HR without fear of retaliation.

00:31:05 - Embracing Productive Conflict

The significance of fostering a culture of productive conflict is discussed. By setting expectations for psychological safety and promoting sincere dialogue and constructive debate, teams can work towards resolving conflicts in a productive manner. Seeking outside help may be necessary for organizations struggling with this.

00:32:17 - Norms Around Conflict Management

Questions to ask about conflict management norms within a team are provided. It is important to assess if conflicts are handled in a safe and respectful manner, and if there are any consequences for crossing boundaries. Encouraging open communication about process concerns is also vital.

00:33:38 - Commitment to Psychological Safety

Creating an environment where individuals feel comfortable expressing their thoughts, ideas, and concerns without fear of negative consequences is emphasized. Psychological safety requires commitment from all levels of an organization and is an ongoing process that contributes to employees' well-being.

00:36:08 - Benefits of Psychological Safety

The positive impact of psychological safety on employee well-being, motivation, innovation, and organizational growth is highlighted. A psychologically safe workplace allows for open questioning, decision-making, and improvement. Creating such an environment is crucial for employee growth and satisfaction.

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In the latest episode of A World of Difference, host Lori Adams-Brown shares ten essential tips for providing trauma-informed care, drawing from her personal experiences with trauma, her professional experience translating for a trauma therapist in the Indonesian tsunami, her own training and trauma-informed certification, and her husband Jason's expertise as an MFT with a specialty in trauma therapy. What is the key to truly helping individuals heal from trauma? Find out in this gripping episode of A World of Difference.

Have you heard these myths about trauma-informed care? Myth #1: Trauma-informed care is only for people with severe trauma. Myth #2: Trauma-informed care is a one-size-fits-all approach. Myth #3: Trauma-informed care is only about therapy. In this episode, our guest Lori Adams-Brown will shed light on the truth behind these myths and share the importance of trauma-informed care in helping individuals heal from trauma.

This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Go to www.betterhelp.com/difference for 10% off your first month of therapy.

Host: Lori Adams-Brown

Lori Adams-Brown is a highly experienced and knowledgeable professional in the field of international disaster relief and development and global leadership and development with a trauma-informed care certification. With her background as a translator for a renowned trauma therapist with a specialty in childhood trauma and her own personal experience with trauma, she has gained a deep understanding of the importance of trauma-informed practices. Lori's expertise extends to working with caregivers and professionals in providing support and healing for individuals who have experienced trauma. Her commitment to learning and growing in this field led her to become a certified trauma-informed care provider. Through her work, Lori aims to create a culture of empathy, respect, and understanding, ensuring that individuals feel safe and supported on their healing journey. With her warm and friendly approach, Lori is dedicated to making a difference in the lives of trauma survivors and those who care for them.

Collaboration is key in providing comprehensive support to individuals who have experienced trauma. You are not their savior; so work with others to ensure they receive the help they need. - Lori Adams-Brown

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Gain a deep understanding of trauma-informed care and discover its powerful role in helping individuals heal from trauma.
  • Create a safe and supportive environment that promotes healing and growth for trauma survivors.
  • Respect personal boundaries and triggers to create a trauma-informed approach that truly supports and empowers individuals.
  • Learn effective strategies for active listening that will enhance your ability to validate the feelings and experiences of trauma survivors.
  • Embrace the ongoing process of being trauma-informed and adapt your approaches to meet the unique needs of each individual you support.

Creating a safe and supportive environment is crucial for individuals dealing with trauma. This involves developing a physical and emotional space where individuals feel secure, seen, and understood. Ensuring confidentiality, setting clear boundaries, and providing a calming atmosphere fosters trust, a vital element in the healing journey of individuals who have experienced trauma.

Being trauma-informed means understanding the impact of trauma on individuals and creating a supportive and empathetic environment. - Lori Adams-Brown

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Learn about trauma: Educate yourself on the different types of trauma, their effects on the brain and behavior, and the prevalence of trauma in society.
  • Create a safe environment: Foster a physical and emotional safe space where individuals feel secure and supported. Set boundaries, ensure confidentiality, and provide a calm and welcoming atmosphere.
  • Respect personal boundaries: Understand that individuals who have experienced trauma may have unique boundaries and triggers. Always respect personal boundaries and ask for consent when appropriate.
  • Practice active listening: Give individuals your full attention, validate their feelings, and avoid judgment or dismissive attitudes. Do not minimize their trauma or abuse.
  • Offer choices and autonomy: Empower individuals by giving them choices and control over their decisions whenever possible. This helps rebuild a sense of agency and self-esteem.
  • Avoid retraumatization: Be mindful of the language and actions you use to ensure they don't retraumatize or trigger distressing memories. Be aware of potential triggers and avoid them.
  • Be patient and understanding: Trauma recovery takes time, so be patient with individuals who may need more time to process their feelings and experiences. Avoid rushing them or pushing for quick resolutions.
  • Invest in training and approach trauma survivors with sensitivity

Trauma recovery takes time, so it's important to be patient with individuals who are processing their feelings and experiences. - Lori Adams-Brown

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:01:20 - Personal Experience with Trauma,

00:03:39 - Sponsorship by BetterHelp,

00:04:57 - Trauma-Informed Care Tips,

00:08:38 - Celebrating Differences and Seeking Input,

00:10:17 - Social Media and Contact Information,

00:15:41 - Impact of the Tool,

00:16:12 - Join the Difference Makers Community,

00:16:35 - Share Your Tips,

00:16:58 - Connect at the Restore Conference,

00:17:24 - Keep Making a Difference,

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Lori introduces the podcast, discussing the heavy topic of trauma and the importance of being trauma-informed.

00:01:20 - Personal Experience with Trauma,

Lori shares her personal experiences with trauma, including translating for a trauma therapist and her own experience of abuse in the workplace.

00:03:39 - Sponsorship by BetterHelp,

Lori mentions the sponsor of the podcast, BetterHelp, and emphasizes the importance of seeking professional help for trauma and other issues.

00:04:57 - Trauma-Informed Care Tips,

Lori discusses ten tips for being trauma-informed, including educating oneself, creating a safe environment, respecting personal boundaries, and practicing active listening.

00:08:38 - Celebrating Differences and Seeking Input,

Lori emphasizes the importance of understanding and respecting individual differences in trauma experiences and invites listeners to share their own trauma-informed care tips.

00:10:17 - Social Media and Contact Information,

Lori shares her social media handles and discusses the suspension of her Twitter account, but mentions the podcast's Twitter account and invites listeners to reach out with their tips.

00:15:41 - Impact of the Tool,

The guest discusses the impact of a tool in helping abuse survivors in a faith-based setting. He emphasizes the importance of the tool and its effectiveness in group therapy sessions.

00:16:12 - Join the Difference Makers Community,

The host invites listeners to join the Difference Makers community, where they can access content from previous episodes and engage in discussions with other members. Membership is priced at $5 a month.

00:16:35 - Share Your Tips,

Listeners are encouraged to share their tips and insights in the community. The host expresses excitement about hearing their thoughts and encourages participation.

00:16:58 - Connect at the Restore Conference,

The host invites listeners attending the Restore Conference in Chicago to come to say hi and meet in person. She expresses gratitude for the support and listenership from around the world.

00:17:24 - Keep Making a Difference,

The host concludes by thanking the listeners for their continued support and encouraging them to make a difference wherever they are.

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In a world of secrets and betrayal, Mary DeMuth found her voice through writing. But when she mustered the courage to share her story, she faced the unthinkable: rejection from loved ones. Now, she's on a mission to confront abuse within religious institutions, but will the church be ready to listen?

This episode is sponsored by Better Health.

My special guest is Mary DeMuth

Mary DeMuth is an accomplished writer and speaker with an extensive body of work, including almost 50 published books. Her latest release, the 90 Day Bible Reading Challenge, showcases her dedication to helping others restory their lives through the power of words. In addition to her literary achievements, Mary is a survivor of childhood abuse, and her book We Too sheds light on the complex issue of abuse within faith communities. Through her writing and advocacy, Mary has become a powerful voice for change, challenging religious institutions to address and prevent abuse. Her insights and personal experiences make her a highly respected figure in the field. With a wealth of knowledge and a genuine desire to empower survivors, Mary DeMuth is a guest whose expertise and story will resonate with listeners of "A World of Difference."

"I kind of am the, I don't know, the crash test dummy of authors because I've tried everything and there was no romantic story about being discovered one day. It was just a hard slog." Mary DeMuth

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the transformative power of writing as a tool for healing and self-expression in the aftermath of abuse within religious institutions.
  • Learn about the unique challenges survivors face in finding support and understanding within the context of religious communities and institutions.
  • Gain insight into the historical and contextual interpretation of the Bible, helping survivors navigate its teachings with a deeper understanding and perspective.
  • Explore the importance of differentiating between descriptive and prescriptive passages in the Bible, empowering survivors to embrace the life-affirming messages and discard the harmful ones, often used to spiritually abuse them.
  • Find inspiration and encouragement by hearing the stories of other survivors who have found healing, support, and empowerment, sparking hope for their own journey of recovery.

"So it was born out of just this frustration that I believe faith communities are some of the best places to heal from trauma and abuse, or they should be. So often they've become not only perpetrators of that kind of violence, but also secondary trauma of not believing, of blaming the victim. Oddly, for me, the church for me was a very healing place. I completely acknowledge that for many people, that is not the truth and not the case." Mary DeMuth

Gain insight into the unique challenges survivors face. Survivors of abuse within religious settings are confronted with a unique set of challenges. The expectation of religious institutions to serve as safe havens can often lead to greater harm when they fail to provide support and understanding. As Mary highlights, these systems are often ill-equipped to handle cases of abuse, making the journey toward healing more difficult for survivors. This episode provides a crucial look at these challenges and offers guidance for overcoming them.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

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  • Take care of yourself and pause the episode if you have experienced abuse or if you're having trouble processing your emotions.
  • Visit www.BetterHelp.com/difference to get 10% off your first month of therapy.
  • Sign up for a therapist on BetterHelp.com and get started on your healing journey.
  • Check out Mary DeMuth's website at MaryDemuth.com for her literary work.
  • Listen to Mary DeMuth's daily Prayer podcast with 4.5 million downloads, called Pray Everyday Show.
  • Visit MaryDemuth.com/art for cards, prints, and other artsy fun.
  • Explore Mary DeMuth's literary agency at MaryDemuthLiterary.com.
  • Write and don't worry about perfection. Just get your words down on the page.
  • Read Mary DeMuth's book We Too about the experience of being a survivor of abuse in a church faith-based space.
  • Check out Mary DeMuth's newly released book, the 90 Day Bible Reading Challenge.
  • Join her reading challenge: MaryDeMuth.com/Bible
  • Learn more about the impact of spiritual, emotional, and psychological abuse in Mary DeMuth's writing and speaking at the Restore conference in Chicago Oct 12-14, where she and host Lori Adams-Brown will both be speaking. Register here: https://julieroys.com/restore-2023/

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The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

00:05:00 - Becoming a Writer,

00:09:37 - We Too,

00:11:32 - Healing in the Church,

00:13:30 - Impact and Takeaways,

00:15:46 - The Cost of Silence,

00:17:32 - Writing for Healing,

00:19:17 - Facing Fear and Finding Strength,

00:21:15 - Speaking Out and Facing Backlash,

00:25:51 - The Burden of Fixing a Broken System,

00:30:56 - The Difficulty of Leaving an Abusive Church,

00:34:15 - God and Abusive Systems,

00:35:53 - Lack of Trauma Awareness in Religious Contexts,

00:37:01 - The Long Journey of Healing,

00:39:08 - Gaining a New Perspective through Overseas Experience,

00:45:51 - Recognizing the Importance of Context and Genre in Bible Reading,

00:46:18 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive in Biblical Interpretation,

00:47:01 - Challenging Misconceptions about Bathsheba's Blame,

00:47:56 - Recognizing Abuse in the Biblical Narrative,

00:49:04 - Finding Healing and Hope in Sharing Abuse Stories,

The cost of silence is born in our bodies and our souls, our brains, and it comes out, it spills out like hot tea that's overflowing and it's not something you can really keep a lid on. - Lori Adams-Brown

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

The episode deals with heavy topics such as abuse and listener discretion is advised. The host introduces the guest, Mary DeMuth, who is a literary agent, speaker, and author of nearly 50 books. They discuss writing and the journey of becoming a writer.

00:05:00 - Becoming a Writer,

Mary shares her journey of becoming a writer and offers advice to aspiring writers. She emphasizes the importance of just starting and giving oneself permission to write poorly at first. She also highlights the accessibility of publishing in today's digital age.

00:09:37 - We Too,

Mary explains that she was inspired to write "We Too" due to brokenness and pain within religious institutions. She believes that faith communities should be safe havens for healing, but often perpetrate abuse or contribute to secondary trauma. Mary shares her own positive experience with church as a healing place.

00:11:32 - Healing in the Church,

The host shares her recent experience at a church panel on abuse and healing. She mentions survivors who found healing within the church, despite their abusive experiences outside of it. They discuss the importance of creating safe spaces within religious institutions for survivors of trauma and abuse.

00:13:30 - Impact and Takeaways,

"We Too" has made a significant impact within the community, addressing the issue of abuse in religious contexts. Mary hopes readers will understand the need for churches to become safe havens and to prevent and heal from abuse. The conversation ends

00:15:46 - The Cost of Silence,

Mary discusses the impact of silence on our bodies and souls and emphasizes the importance of finding a way to share our stories, even if it's through writing. Writing can help process trauma and uncover deeper layers of healing.

00:17:32 - Writing for Healing,

Mary and the host discuss the power of writing in processing trauma and sharing one's story. Writing allows for a different level of reflection and can lead to unexpected insights and healing.

00:19:17 - Facing Fear and Finding Strength,

Mary shares her experience of writing a chapter about her abuse and confronting her fears of being disbelieved and rejected by her parents. Despite her fears coming true, she finds strength in standing up for herself and continues to write her story.

00:21:15 - Speaking Out and Facing Backlash,

The host shares her own experience of speaking out and facing backlash within the church. She discusses the fear of being slandered and the importance of speaking up for survivors of abuse. Mary reflects on her role in the Southern Baptist Convention and the challenges of trying to change a system.

00:25:51 - The Burden of Fixing a Broken System,

Mary talks about the difficulties of trying to change a broken system and the toll it takes on survivors. She emphasizes the need for healing and providing safe spaces for survivors, rather than expecting them to fix a broken system.

00:30:56 - The Difficulty of Leaving an Abusive Church,

Mary shares her experience of being in an abusive situation and the internal struggle she faced when deciding whether to stay or leave. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing when one has tried multiple times to repair a broken system but faced resistance each time, indicating that it may be time to leave.

00:34:15 - God and Abusive Systems,

Mary discusses the misconception that God wants individuals to stay in abusive systems. She highlights the importance of questioning leaders and systems and how the inability to question or challenge authority is a sign of a toxic and abusive situation. She encourages individuals to prioritize their well-being and safety.

00:35:53 - Lack of Trauma Awareness in Religious Contexts,

Mary points out that many religious systems are not trauma-informed, which can make it challenging for survivors of sexual abuse to find healing and support within a religious context. She highlights the need for more training in churches to address and understand trauma.

00:37:01 - The Long Journey of Healing,

Mary emphasizes that healing from trauma takes time and cannot be rushed. She shares her personal experience of assuming she had healed after being prayed for but later realizing that trauma can resurface in different stages of life. She encourages survivors to be patient with themselves.

00:39:08 - Gaining a New Perspective through Overseas Experience,

Mary reflects on her time spent overseas in France and how it shifted her perspective on Christian communities and the interpretation of scripture. She learned to

00:45:51 - Recognizing the Importance of Context and Genre in Bible Reading,

The Bible is a collection of ancient scriptures written by different people over many years. It is important to recognize the ancient context and different genres of the text when reading it. The guest believes that the Bible has something to say to us today.

00:46:18 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive in Biblical Interpretation,

Not everything in the Bible is prescriptive, some parts are descriptive. It is crucial to understand the difference between these two approaches when interpreting the text. The example of Bathsheba's story is given to illustrate this point.

00:47:01 - Challenging Misconceptions about Bathsheba's Blame,

The guest emphasizes that Bathsheba is not blamed in the Bible for the events that occurred with King David. The negative narratives and victim-blaming that have been perpetuated by some pastors are not supported by the plain reading of the text.

00:47:56 - Recognizing Abuse in the Biblical Narrative,

Although the word "abuse" may not be used in the Bible, the implications of abuse can be identified in certain narratives. The story of Bathsheba and King David serves as an example of the abuse of power and the consequences that follow.

00:49:04 - Finding Healing and Hope in Sharing Abuse Stories,

The guest shares her personal experience of sharing her story of abuse and the rejection she faced. She encourages others to find inspiration and hope in her story

It's that thing you're most afraid of, that if you actually just are brave enough to face it and name the fear and just go forward anyway, even if you face everything you thought, somehow it catapults you into something so much bigger, and now you have this huge field to run and play in and be brave. - Lori Adams-Brown

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If you're feeling frustrated and disheartened by the lack of progress in promoting human dignity and human rights, despite your efforts to bring about change through petitions, protests, and advocacy, then you are not alone! Instead of witnessing a tangible shift towards a more inclusive and just society, you may be encountering apathy, resistance, and even backlash, which can leave you questioning the effectiveness of your actions and the possibility of true transformation.

My special guest is Carmen Imes

A respected voice in theological discussions and publications, Carmen Imes's scholarship illuminates human dignity's divine origins. A distinguished associate professor of Old Testament at Biola University, her insights stem from comprehensive study and immersive experiences. Dr. Imes's works include the influential trilogy, with the latest installment titled Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters. Beyond academia, Carmen shares her perspectives with a broader public, through platforms such as Christianity Today and the Politics of Theology blog. Life experiences in the Philippines and a strong commitment to enhancing human flourishing reveal her genuine passion for the subject.

  • Visit her website and read her blog at carmenjoyimes.blogspot.com.
  • Follow her on Twitter: @carmenjoyimes.

Diversity is not a bug, but a feature of creation, and God's intention is for us to live together in collaborative community with one another. - Carmen Imes

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Embrace a transformative journey of faithfulness in an evolving world.
  • Unravel a well-rounded view of career and vocation in harmony with spiritual convictions.
  • Investigate the power of adaptability in piloting life's changes without sacrificing integrity.
  • Understand the essentiality of community in manifesting one's faith in real-life situations.
  • Look into how to impact the world positively by demonstrating the values of the kingdom of God.

Refreshing exploration of faithfulness

Carmen Imes shines a light on the importance of exploring faith in a holistic manner. Tied to the overarching theme of human dignity and rights, her exploration of faithfulness permeates all aspects of life -- from academia to our daily interactions. By immersing ourselves in a diverse range of perspectives, we gain a more expansive understanding of faith, transforming both our own life experiences and our impact on society.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit the Biola University website to learn more about Dr. Carmen Imes and her work in Old Testament studies.
  • Purchase Dr. Imes' book, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, to gain a deeper understanding of the concept of imago day and its implications for human identity and purpose.
  • Explore Dr. Imes' previous book, Bearing God's Name, which delves into the significance of the name of God and its implications for our lives.
  • Stay tuned for Dr. Imes' forthcoming book, which will further explore the topic of human dignity and its importance.
  • Check out Dr. Imes' writing on Christianity Today, The Well, and Politics of Theology blog to engage with her thoughts and perspectives on various topics.
  • Reflect on your own understanding of human dignity and how you can better recognize and affirm the inherent worth of every person you encounter.
  • Educate yourself on the history of Christianity and the ways in which Christians have sometimes failed to live out the values of dignity and respect for all.
  • Engage in conversations with people from different religious, cultural, and ethnic backgrounds to foster understanding and empathy.
  • Challenge any biases

Our identity is not something that we self-construct or that we're responsible for coming up with ourselves or creating ourselves, but that it's given to us by God and that every human being is inherently valuable and has inherent dignity. - Carmen Imes

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:03:22 - Understanding Imago Dei,

00:06:35 - Christians and Mistreatment of Others,

00:10:00 - Acknowledging Mistreatment by Christians,

00:11:41 - Learning from Cross-Cultural Experiences,

00:16:44 - Celebrating Diversity and Different Perspectives,

00:18:03 - Lack of Representation in Theological Education,

00:20:48 - Addressing Human Rights Abuses in the US,

00:25:19 - The Value of Minority Perspectives,

00:28:49 - Embracing Equality and God's Design,

00:31:41 - The Original Vision for Creation,

00:32:38 - Loving Ourselves and Others,

00:33:41 - Microaggressions and Difficult Conversations,

00:34:14 - Benevolent Stewardship,

00:38:53 - The Restorative Power of Rest,

00:46:39 - Conclusion,

This is why we need to listen to diverse voices because they are noticing and having the courage to speak out about things that the majority culture is either not seeing or it would cost them too much to say. - Carmen Imes

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast and introduces Dr. Carmen Imes as the guest for the episode. They will be discussing Dr. Imes's book, "Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters" and the concept of imago Dei.

00:03:22 - Understanding Imago Dei,

Dr. Imes explains the concept of imago Dei, which means "image of God." She emphasizes that every human being, regardless of religion, gender, or race, is created by God with inherent dignity and worth.

00:06:35 - Christians and Mistreatment of Others,

Dr. Imes acknowledges the historical and current mistreatment of others by Christians. She apologizes for the harm caused and encourages Christians to rethink their engagement with the world, seeing others as fellow images of God.

00:10:00 - Acknowledging Mistreatment by Christians,

Dr. Imes apologizes to anyone who has personally been hurt by Christians or the Church. She affirms that mistreatment does not align with God's heart and emphasizes the importance of recognizing the inherent dignity and worth of all human beings.

00:11:41 - Learning from Cross-Cultural Experiences,

Dr. Imes shares her experiences living in the Philippines and interacting with people from different cultures. She discusses how these experiences have opened her eyes to a wider world and the need to read more globally to understand and engage with others better.

00:16:44 - Celebrating Diversity and Different Perspectives,

The podcast is about celebrating the different gifts and strengths we all have and learning from each other. The guest shares her experience of growing up in Latin America and learning about liberation theology. She also mentions the importance of diverse voices in academia and reading books by authors from different backgrounds.

00:18:03 - Lack of Representation in Theological Education,

The guest reflects on her experience in seminary and the lack of representation of women and non-white scholars in the textbooks and reading lists. She emphasizes the importance of diversifying the voices we listen to and the need to include perspectives from women and people of color in theological education.

00:20:48 - Addressing Human Rights Abuses in the US,

The conversation shifts to the issue of human rights abuses in the US, particularly within white evangelical circles. The guest points out the tendency to focus on abuses in other countries while ignoring the problems within their own communities. She encourages white evangelicals to listen to diverse voices and recognize the issues present in their own context.

00:25:19 - The Value of Minority Perspectives,

The guest shares a story from the book of Jeremiah that highlights the value of minority perspectives in recognizing and addressing human rights violations. She emphasizes the importance of listening to diverse voices and the unique insights they bring to the conversation.

00:28:49 - Embracing Equality and God's Design,

The conversation concludes with a discussion on gender equality in the church. The guest encourages readers to reflect

00:31:41 - The Original Vision for Creation,

Carmen Imes emphasizes the importance of going back to Genesis 1 and 2 to understand God's original design for humanity. She encourages listeners to work towards God's ideal of human flourishing rather than perpetuating the fallen world of Genesis 3.

00:32:38 - Loving Ourselves and Others,

Imes highlights the importance of loving ourselves as women and rejecting the idea that we are secondary or lesser than men. She also emphasizes Jesus' message of loving our neighbor as ourselves, which includes embracing our own worth.

00:33:41 - Microaggressions and Difficult Conversations,

Imes acknowledges the challenges women face when discussing gender equality and the resistance they often encounter. She expresses gratitude for those who persist in having these conversations in difficult spaces.

00:34:14 - Benevolent Stewardship,

Imes discusses the concept of ruling as a form of benevolent stewardship. She highlights the importance of creating space for others to flourish and the responsibility to share resources for the well-being of both humans and animals.

00:38:53 - The Restorative Power of Rest,

Imes emphasizes the significance of rest and the Sabbath as a counter-cultural practice in a society that values constant productivity. She highlights the need to recognize our limitations and the importance of resting for our own well-being and the well-being of others.

00:46:39 - Conclusion,

The conversation comes to an end as the guest says goodbye.

Refreshing exploration of faithfulness

Carmen Imes shines a light on the importance of exploring faith in a holistic manner. Tied to the overarching theme of human dignity and rights, her exploration of faithfulness permeates all aspects of life -- from academia to our daily interactions. By immersing ourselves in a diverse range of perspectives, we gain a more expansive understanding of faith, transforming both our own life experiences and our impact on society.

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Discover the untold story of Artemis of the Ephesians, a goddess who challenges traditional beliefs about women's roles in the first century. Join Dr. Sandra Glahn as she uncovers surprising connections between Artemis and the early church, leaving us questioning everything we thought we knew. Are we ready to face the truth?

My special guest is Sandra Glahn

Prepare to indulge in an enriching discussion with our guest today, Dr. Sandra Glahn. A distinguished professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, she is admired for her profound knowledge in media arts, worship, and gender studies combined with an in-depth understanding of women's culture and the role of the arts. Her diverse background and versatility have enabled her to contribute to over 20 books, broadening perspectives and sparking thought-provoking debates. With her forthcoming book, Nobody's Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament, she invites us to delve into a distinct historical journey tackling the intriguing cultural context of Artemis of the Ephesians. Sit back and prepare for an enlightening chat!

Jesus is stronger. And I think that what he is saying is, women will be saved... That Christ is going to show himself the ultimate midwife. - Sandra Glahn

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Explore the transformative roles of women in the early church and society and comprehend their lasting impact.
  • Unveil the mystical cultural context surrounding Artemis of the Ephesians.
  • Gain insights into the intricate gender dynamics and power structures that shape the church.
  • Appreciate the importance and benefits of an egalitarian approach to partnership between men and women.
  • Discover the deep significance of language and cultural diversity in understanding the scriptures.

Mystical Cultural Context

Understanding the cultural and religious framework of the first century is crucial to make sense of Biblical texts and the reference to figures like Artemis. This was a period marked by different beliefs and practices, and Artemis's portrayal deviated considerably from the fertility goddess stereotype. Sandra's research unlocks this mystical cultural context, providing a fresh perspective on Biblical narratives and their meanings.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Purchase Dr. Sandra Glahn's book Nobody's Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament to learn more about the connection between Artemis and the Book of Ephesians. https://www.ivpress.com/nobody-s-mother
  • Explore Dr. Sandra Glahn's other books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, and Sanctified: Sexuality and Sexual Intimacy in Marriage. https://sandraglahn.com/
  • Visit the Dallas Theological Seminary website to learn more about Dr. Sandra Glahn and her work in media arts and worship.
  • Join the conversation about Artemis of the Ephesians and the Book of Ephesians by engaging with the A World of Difference podcast and Dr. Sandra Glahn on social media. https://twitter.com/sandraglahn

Artemis of the Ephesians was as likely to take out women as she was men... She might have been the inspiration for Wonder Woman, but she is not as nice as Wonder Woman. - Sandra Glahn

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:01:15 - Dr. Glon's Background and Book,

00:07:28 - Artemis as a Midwifery Goddess,

00:09:50 - Wonder Woman and the Amazons,

00:14:27 - The Discounted Mother,

00:15:19 - Fear and Communal Culture,

00:16:41 - Misinterpreted Verses,

00:19:08 - Church Fathers' Views on Women,

00:22:55 - Partnering and Imaging God,

00:29:29 - The Importance of Female Metaphors for God,

00:31:44 - The Dignity of Women in Christianity,

00:32:28 - Jesus' Relationship with Women,

00:33:52 - Expanding the Definition of Women's Callings,

I had to go back to start over with Scripture and ask where I've picked up that idea. - Sandra Glahn

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Lori Adams Brown introduces the podcast and guest, Dr. Sandra Glon, who has written a book called "Nobody's Mother: Artemis of the Ephesians in Antiquity and the New Testament." The book explores the connection between Artemis of the Ephesians and the verses about women in the New Testament, especially in the Book of Ephesians.

00:01:15 - Dr. Glon's Background and Book,

Dr. Glon shares her personal journey of infertility and pregnancy loss and how it led her to question the traditional view of a woman's primary calling as motherhood. She explains that her research on Artemis of the Ephesians began when she discovered a connection between the goddess and the phrase "she will be saved through childbearing" in Paul's letter to Timothy.

00:07:28 - Artemis as a Midwifery Goddess,

Dr. Glon discusses her findings that Artemis of the Ephesians was not a fertility goddess but rather a goddess of midwifery. She explains that Paul's advice to Timothy regarding marriage and childbearing was influenced by the context of Ephesus, where virginity was highly valued.

00:09:50 - Wonder Woman and the Amazons,

Dr. Glon mentions the connection between Artemis and the Amazons, who were real women warriors buried with weapons and horses. She explains that while Wonder Woman may have been inspired by Artemis, the ancient goddess was ruthless and not as benevolent as the fictional

00:14:27 - The Discounted Mother,

The discussion focuses on Artemis, a mother figure who was often discounted in the culture at the time. Paul's writings in First Timothy acknowledge her influence but also emphasize that Jesus is superior.

00:15:19 - Fear and Communal Culture,

The fear of childbirth was a significant concern for women in the community, as it was the leading cause of death. The communal culture added to the fear, as being wrong could bring disaster to the whole community. Paul's message of Jesus as the ultimate midwife provided comfort and salvation for women.

00:16:41 - Misinterpreted Verses,

The verse about women being saved through childbearing has often been misinterpreted. It cannot refer to salvation in the traditional sense, as Paul consistently taught salvation by grace through faith. Understanding the cultural context and the influence of Artemis helps interpret these verses accurately.

00:19:08 - Church Fathers' Views on Women,

Many church fathers, influenced by Greek philosophy, held views that women were defective or weaker. Augustine's views on women were shaped by his broken sexual history. It is essential to critically evaluate their teachings and focus on the essential equality of men and women.

00:22:55 - Partnering and Imaging God,

The early church got it right by emphasizing the partnership between men and women. Art depicting men and women officiating communion together demonstrates the importance of unity and collaboration. Rather than focusing on gender differences, we should recognize that both men and women bear

00:29:29 - The Importance of Female Metaphors for God,

The conversation begins by discussing the use of metaphors and similes for God as a female in the Bible. The guest emphasizes the importance of representing both male and female voices as the voice of God in dramas. The influence of traditional depictions of God as a male figure with a long white beard is also mentioned.

00:31:44 - The Dignity of Women in Christianity,

The guest highlights the significance of the Incarnation and how it represents the dignity of women. The fact that Christ chose to inhabit a woman's womb for nine months challenges the notion that women are considered dirty or inferior. The guest emphasizes that women have an important role in Christianity and should be listened to and valued.

00:32:28 - Jesus' Relationship with Women,

The guest discusses how Jesus listened to and elevated women, setting an example for his male disciples to do the same. His appearance as the resurrected Lord before a woman further emphasizes the importance of women's voices in the faith movement. The guest encourages Christians to recognize the significance of women in the church.

00:33:52 - Expanding the Definition of Women's Callings,

The guest shares her personal journey of realizing that motherhood and being a wife are not the only callings for women. She hopes that her book will help set people free from narrow views of women's roles and inspire them to recognize the diverse ways in which women can live out their callings.

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In a world where Amy Fritz thought she knew the ins and outs of the way she thought a faith-based busines should work, she found herself plunged into a bewildering labyrinth of toxicity. The air was heavy with unspoken tensions, and the invisible shackles around her tightened every day, but just when Amy thought she had reached her breaking point, an unexpected twist emerged, shattering her reality and offering a glimmer of hope. What did Amy discover that could potentially change the course of her life and view of work? Stay tuned, for the answers lie in the depths of her courageous journey.

My special guest is Amy Fritz

Amy Fritz features as our guest on today's episode. Navigating the tricky waters of toxic workplace environments with grace, empathy, and a deep personal understanding, Amy is a force to be reckoned with. Drawing from her husband and friends' encounters with such situations, Amy breaks down the complex nuances of spiritual abuse and its consequent fallout. Renowned as the host of the 'Untangled Faith Podcast', Amy uses her platform to provide insightful content that resonates with those struggling in similar scenarios. Her straightforward yet empathetic approach positions her as a trusted source of advice and inspiration in this critical discussion.

Don't be afraid to leave a toxic work environment. Your mental health and well-being are worth prioritizing. - Amy FritzIn this episode, you will be able to:

  • Find out how to turn a harmful workplace atmosphere into a supportive and conducive setting for excellent work.
  • Gauge how giving voice to the voiceless can invigorate an organization's transparency and growth.
  • Discern the link between passive participation in wrongdoings and becoming an endorser of the same.
  • Deal with the fear and courage intertwined in confronting a corrosive work atmosphere.
  • Be spurred to initiate a positive transformation within your organization by valuing hidden efforts and ground-level changes.

Transforming a Hostile Workplace

Establishing a positive and healthy workplace environment begins with acknowledging the existence of toxicity and hostility. Individuals must not shy away from uncomfortable truths and instead face them head-on. By publicly rejecting harmful behaviors and attitudes, employees and leaders alike can set the tone for a more supportive, respectful, and transparent workspace.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit Untangled Faith Podcast: Go to the Untangled Faith podcast to hear more about Amy Fritz's experiences with toxic workplace environments and spiritual abuse.
  • Check out Ramsey Solutions: Explore Ramsey Solutions, the organization that Amy mentioned in the podcast, to learn more about those that have been speaking out about the toxic workplace environment there.
  • Read about the Caring Well Conference: Look up the Caring Well conference, hosted by the ERLC, and what Boz Tchvidjan had to say about it, and. how others found it to be image management.
  • Educate yourself on toxic workplace environments: Take the time to research and educate yourself on the signs and effects of toxic workplace environments to better understand and support those who may be experiencing them.
  • Support survivors of toxic workplace environments: If you know someone who has experienced a toxic workplace environment, offer them support and resources to help them navigate their situation and heal.
  • Foster a culture of accountability: Encourage open dialogue and accountability within your own workplace or community to prevent and address toxic behaviors.
  • Seek out trusted resources: Look for books, podcasts, or organizations that specialize in addressing toxic workplace environments

Transparency is key. Let the light shine on toxic leaders and hold them accountable for their actions. - Amy Fritz

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:01:25 - Importance of Knowing,

00:05:22 - Complicated Feelings,

00:07:01 - Collusion and Complicity,

00:10:41 - Perspectives on Collusion,

00:12:57 - Canary in the Coal Mine,

00:14:40 - The Importance of Speaking Truth,

00:15:49 - The Power of Prophetic Voices,

00:16:30 - Recognizing Our Complicity,

00:19:22 - Why We Should Want to Know,

00:21:33 - Navigating Complicated Situations,

00:28:42 - "Importance of Financial Transparency",

00:32:46 - "The Role of Whistleblowers",

00:36:14 - "Shifting Empathy Towards Survivors and Whistleblowers",

00:39:39 - "Personal Experience with Whistleblowing",

00:41:22 - "Dealing with Conflicting Information",

00:42:41 - Power Dynamics and Giving Power Away,

00:43:17 - Influence and Trust,

00:44:20 - He Said, She Said and Evidence,

00:45:06 - Power and Patriarchy,

00:46:54 - Speaking Out and Hope,

When we know better, we do better. - Amy Fritz

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Lori Adams-Brown introduces the podcast episode and explains that it is a recorded conversation with Amy Fritz, host of the Untangled Faith Podcast. They discuss toxic workplace environments and the importance of knowing about harmful situations.

00:01:25 - Importance of Knowing,

Amy Fritz explains why it is important to know about toxic workplace environments. She emphasizes the need to have information to make informed decisions and take appropriate action.

00:05:22 - Complicated Feelings,

Lori Adams-Brown and Amy Fritz discuss the complicated feelings people may have when they learn that something or someone they like or benefit from has caused harm. They acknowledge that it can be difficult to process and decide how to respond.

00:07:01 - Collusion and Complicity,

The conversation explores the concept of collusion and complicity when someone partners with or endorses a person or organization that has been abusive or toxic. They discuss the complexities of these situations and the need for further understanding and questioning.

00:10:41 - Perspectives on Collusion,

Amy Fritz shares her perspective on seeing individuals collaborate or work with toxic leaders. She mentions the importance of considering different factors, such as behind-the-scenes advocacy or the unintended message of endorsement.

00:12:57 - Canary in the Coal Mine,

Lori Adams-Brown and Amy Fritz discuss the role of being a "canary in the coal mine" and how someone's presence or departure can send a message about the

00:14:40 - The Importance of Speaking Truth,

The guest shares a story about someone who spoke truth to a conference audience and emphasized the need for introspection before hosting conferences. She highlights the importance of using influence and power wisely and not squandering opportunities to make a meaningful impact.

00:15:49 - The Power of Prophetic Voices,

The guest discusses the importance of prophetic voices who call out injustices and bring attention to ongoing issues. She praises those who use their influence to speak up, even at the risk of not being invited back. She acknowledges the complexities of certain individuals, like Rachel Dunn Hollander, who can be both helpful and hurtful.

00:16:30 - Recognizing Our Complicity,

The guest acknowledges that everyone is complicit to some extent and shares her personal struggles to maintain integrity in her faith-based spaces. She encourages listeners to strive for high standards and not be complicit in actions that harm others, even if they are unaware of the specific issues at hand.

00:19:22 - Why We Should Want to Know,

The guest highlights the importance of seeking truth and being willing to hear uncomfortable information, regardless of religious beliefs or lack thereof. She emphasizes that acknowledging our imperfections and being open to learning and growth is part of our integrity and faith.

00:21:33 - Navigating Complicated Situations,

The guest recognizes the challenges faced by individuals who may be financially dependent or deeply connected to problematic organizations. She distinguishes between those who may

00:28:42 - "Importance of Financial Transparency",

The hosts discuss the importance of financial transparency in organizations, particularly in nonprofits and churches. They mention the lack of reporting requirements for some organizations and emphasize the need for transparency to ensure funds are being used for their intended purposes.

00:32:46 - "The Role of Whistleblowers",

The hosts highlight the importance of whistleblowers in exposing toxic leaders and organizations. They mention that women often serve as whistleblowers and encourage listeners to listen to their stories and believe them, as history has shown that whistleblowers are often telling the truth.

00:36:14 - "Shifting Empathy Towards Survivors and Whistleblowers",

The hosts discuss the need to shift empathy towards survivors and whistleblowers instead of toxic leaders. They encourage listeners to have brave conversations, listen to survivors' stories without expecting anything in return, and offer statements of belief and support.

00:39:39 - "Personal Experience with Whistleblowing",

The hosts share their personal experiences with whistleblowing and receiving information about misconduct. They emphasize the importance of integrity and being willing to listen to difficult information, even if it challenges existing relationships or beliefs.

00:41:22 - "Dealing with Conflicting Information",

The hosts discuss the challenges of processing conflicting information and making decisions based on what is true. They emphasize the importance of seeking guidance from trusted individuals outside of the situation and maintaining integrity in handling sensitive information.

00:42:41 - Power Dynamics and Giving Power Away,

The guest emphasizes her belief in giving power away and discusses the importance of not enabling someone addicted to power. They also touch on the power dynamics between Dave Ramsey and the guest's organization.

00:43:17 - Influence and Trust,

The guest talks about how people often give automatic trust and influence to those with power and influence. She also highlights the challenge of being believed when speaking out against a powerful individual.

00:44:20 - He Said, She Said and Evidence,

The guest explains why the "he said, she said" approach is troubling and emphasizes the importance of looking at tangible evidence such as depositions, audio recordings, and transcripts.

00:45:06 - Power and Patriarchy,

The guest discusses the dynamics of power and how it can be abused, especially under patriarchy. She believes that good leadership is based on integrity and character, and toxic individuals will eventually face consequences.

00:46:54 - Speaking Out and Hope,

The guest explains her motivation for speaking out about the harm caused by powerful individuals. She believes that speaking out is a sign of hope and a desire for justice and restoration. Both guests express their hope for a future where they don't have to talk about these issues anymore.

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Do you long for a renewed sense of strength and self-discovery in the face of life's challenges? Are you seeking inspiration and guidance to navigate major transitions with resilience? Look no further! In this episode, we have the incredible Lisa Niver sharing her journey and offering the key to unlocking your own personal growth and transformation. Discover how to embrace change, overcome obstacles, and uncover a profound sense of self-discovery and inner strength. Get ready to embark on a transformative journey towards a renewed and empowered of yourself.

My special guest is Lisa Niver

Meet Lisa Niver, a globally recognized travel enthusiast, award-winning writer, and trailblazer in the digital world. Lisa's life is a testament to resilience and following one's passion. Her zest for adventure has led her to explore over 102 countries, making her an expert in not just travel, but life itself. Lisa has also faced personal trials, including a painful divorce, and yet, was able to turn her despair into motivation. She embarked on 50 challenging journeys before her 50th birthday, an experience she details in her riveting memoir Bravish. Lisa’s multi-dimensional life experiences, deeply resonating with our listeners, promises to inspire and guide them through their personal transitions.

You should do new things because they would never remember you. So if you go to a new restaurant, you don't have bad memories. I mean, you should figure that out, how to deal with that. But at the same time, do something that's serving you in a positive way. - Lisa NiverIn this episode, you will be able to:

  • Trace Lisa Niver's compelling narrative that underlines her remarkable toughness.
  • Grasp the dramatic life improvement that embracing novel tests and challenges can bring.
  • Validate the need for mental health guidance and strong relationships during demanding transitions.
  • Identify the calming effects of immersive hobbies like scuba diving and scribing feelings.
  • Be invigorated by Lisa's encouraging insights in 'Bravish' and realize the potential of mini steps towards enhancing oneself.

Role of Therapy and Trust-Based Relationships

Lisa Niver highlights the importance of therapy and the support of friends in her healing journey. She also emphasizes navigating troublesome circumstances through understanding the difference between mere inconveniences and actual problems. By emphasizing mental health, she underscores the pivotal role of therapy and relationships in fostering resilience and moving forward in life.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit Lisa Niver's website, We Said Go Travel, to read her articles and travel guides.
  • Check out Lisa's YouTube channel with over 2 million views for travel inspiration and tips.
  • Listen to Lisa's podcast, Make Your Own Map, to hear interviews with inspiring travelers and learn about their journeys.
  • Purchase Lisa's memoir, Bravish: One Breakup, Six Continents and Feeling Fearless After 50, to explore her personal story of transformation and find inspiration for your own journey.
  • Connect with Lisa on social media to stay updated on her latest travel adventures and insights.
  • Consider joining a scuba diving trip or taking up a new hobby that brings you joy and helps you reconnect with yourself.
  • Take time for self-care activities, such as enjoying a relaxing bath with luxurious bath salts or spending time in nature, to nurture your well-being during challenging times.
  • Find a support system of friends and loved ones who can offer guidance and encouragement as you navigate through difficult life transitions.
  • Explore new places and try new experiences to create positive memories and associations with your post-divorce life.
  • Embrace the healing power of walking and spending time near water

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:02:09 - Discovering a Love for Travel,

00:03:57 - The Educational Benefits of Travel,

00:05:11 - Make Your Own Map Podcast,

00:06:13 - Bravish: A Memoir of Transformation,

00:13:46 - The Healing Power of the Ocean,

00:16:44 - Healing Through Pain and Suffering,

00:17:11 - Setting Goals for Personal Growth,

00:22:45 - Overcoming Self-Perceptions,

00:27:46 - Coping with Life Changes,

00:29:40 - The Meaning Behind "Braveish",

00:31:52 - Favorite Travel Destinations,

00:34:54 - Small Steps and Patience,

00:38:42 - Embracing Change and Women's Stories,

00:40:58 - Embracing Challenges and Inspiring Others,

00:41:15 - Traveling as a Woman,

00:41:41 - Reflecting on Lisa's Journey,

00:42:45 - Overcoming Midlife Doubts,

00:44:03 - Taking Action and Making a Difference

I thought I would never laugh again. I thought it would never travel again. I had really felt very hopeless. But I did a lot of therapy, every kind of therapy that I could find. And I'm in Los Angeles, so there were a lot of kinds. - Lisa Niver

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Introduction to the podcast and the guest, Lisa Niver, an award-winning travel expert and author.

00:02:09 - Discovering a Love for Travel,

Lisa shares how her love for travel began during a family cruise when she was in junior high. She talks about the impact of visiting historical sites and how it sparked her curiosity.

00:03:57 - The Educational Benefits of Travel,

Lisa discusses the natural learning that occurs when traveling with kids and how it can foster curiosity, map reading skills, and cultural understanding.

00:05:11 - Make Your Own Map Podcast,

Lisa talks about her podcast, "Make Your Own Map," and the joy of interviewing incredible people and learning about their travel experiences and life challenges.

00:06:13 - Bravish: A Memoir of Transformation,

Lisa shares the inspiration behind her memoir, "Bravish," which chronicles her journey of self-discovery and empowerment after her divorce. She discusses the societal pressures women face and how her book resonates with readers.

00:13:46 - The Healing Power of the Ocean,

Lisa Niver shares how the ocean, particularly in Santa Cruz, California, has helped heal her during challenging times. She discusses the intimate details of her marriage falling apart and how writing about it was a difficult but necessary process. She also shares helpful techniques she used, such as wearing a talisman and lighting a candle, to signal when she was writing about her past traumas.

00:16:44 - Healing Through Pain and Suffering,

Lori acknowledges that there are no shortcuts to healing and that walking through the pain and suffering is necessary. She expresses gratitude to Lisa for writing about her process, as it will provide healing for others who have experienced similar challenges in their own lives.

00:17:11 - Setting Goals for Personal Growth,

Lisa discusses her goal of completing 50 challenges before turning 50, highlighting the significance of setting goals for personal growth. She shares how these challenges helped her discover new aspects of herself and overcome her initial resistance to trying new things. The most significant challenge for her was getting a proper diagnosis and improving her eye coordination through tennis lessons.

00:22:45 - Overcoming Self-Perceptions,

Lisa reflects on her self-perception as not being adventurous or athletic. Through her challenges and the encouragement of a friend, she realized that she had been adventurous all along. She shares how saying yes to one opportunity led to many others, and the experience of discovering new sides of herself was transformative.

00:27:46 - Coping with Life Changes,

Lisa compares the end of her marriage to a natural disaster and discusses the importance of having a support network and seeking therapy. She emphasizes the need to focus on the steps that can be taken rather than dwelling on what cannot be done.

00:29:40 - The Meaning Behind "Braveish",

Lisa explains that she did not feel brave when people called her courageous after leaving her relationship. She shares her struggle with completing her project and the joy and freedom she felt in quitting. The title of her book, "Braveish," reflects her mixed feelings about being labeled as brave.

00:31:52 - Favorite Travel Destinations,

Lisa expresses her love for scuba diving and how she enjoys exploring underwater environments. She mentions Bonaire, Mexico, as a favorite location and shares her excitement about discovering new places and experiences through travel.

00:34:54 - Small Steps and Patience,

Lisa discusses the importance of taking small steps and embracing patience in the process of rebuilding one's life. She shares a story about her YouTube channel's growth and how her father reminded her to appreciate each milestone along the way.

00:38:42 - Embracing Change and Women's Stories,

Lisa reflects on the lessons she learned from a retreat in Puerto Rico, emphasizing the need to let go of what no longer serves us and to nurture the aspects of our lives that we want to flourish. She expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share her story as a woman

00:40:58 - Embracing Challenges and Inspiring Others,

The host praises Lisa Niver for sharing her inspiring experiences and putting beauty into the world. They discuss Lisa's book "Bravish" and hope it encourages others to create their own challenges and be brave.

00:41:15 - Traveling as a Woman,

The host asks Lisa about her experience traveling solo as a woman. They address the concerns of others who think it is dangerous. The discussion continues in the patreon community.

00:41:41 - Reflecting on Lisa's Journey,

The host reflects on Lisa's adventurous life, from scuba diving to dealing with a devastating loss. They emphasize the message of transformation and hope that listeners are inspired to explore new possibilities.

00:42:45 - Overcoming Midlife Doubts,

The host encourages listeners, especially those in midlife, to believe that there are always new opportunities waiting. They highlight the importance of trying new things, pursuing passions, and embracing change.

00:44:03 - Taking Action and Making a Difference,

The host urges listeners to take action and be inspired by Lisa's story. They invite listeners to share their own inspirations and aspirations, emphasizing the power of connection and community in making a difference.

One of the things about all the challenges that I noticed about myself was my first instinct when I was given the opportunity to do something new or different. My first response was always emphatic that I was not going to try. But as more and more challenges came to me later, I was more like, well.. - Lisa Niver

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Renowned sleep doctor, Dr. Barry Krakow, battles dismissive doctors, empowers patients, and transforms lives through the power of proper diagnosis and treatment for sleep disorders, unlocking the key to improved mental well-being.

My special guest is Barry Krakow

Barry Krakow is a seasoned medical professional and a celebrated figure in the world of sleep science. With over three decades of dedicated service, Barry has helped countless individuals navigate through sleep disorders, from chronic nightmares and insomnia to Restless Leg Syndrome. As a board-certified internist, his work has shed light on the intricate relationship between sleep quality and mental health. Barry is currently a professor at Mercer University School of Medicine, where he oversees the training of future psychiatrists in the field of sleep medicine. His life's work and distinct insights make him an invaluable guide for those struggling with sleep disorders and mental health issues.

By having these problems with your sleep, it's not just all psychological. You end up with cardiovascular diseases, neurologic problems. Sleep is a huge deal. - Barry Krakow

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Gain insights into how sleep disorders intertwine with mental health, illuminating a side of psychological resilience few have considered.
  • Learn about the successful methods used in dealing with long-term nightmares and sleeplessness, and the prospect of finally getting that elusive good night's rest.
  • Appreciate why taking stock of sleep quality is paramount and the significant benefits it brings to your day-to-day activities.
  • Understand the challenges in securing good care for sleep disorders and strategies to navigate them.
  • Delve into the sleep needs of teenagers, and the profound effects sleep has on their overall development and well-being. List 3:

Emphasize the importance of addressing sleep quality

Maintaining quality sleep is essential for both physical and mental health. It's an area that often gets overlooked, but poor sleep quality can result in deteriorating mental health conditions and reduced alertness during the day. Therefore, prioritizing sleep quality by seeking professional help when needed and implementing beneficial habits can dramatically improve overall well-being.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Purchase Dr. Barry Krakow's book Life Saving Sleep: New Horizons in Mental Health Treatment to learn more about the relationship between sleep and mental health.
  • Visit Dr. Krakow's website to find resources and information about sleep disorders and treatment options.
  • If you or someone you know is struggling with sleep and mental health, consider seeking help from a sleep doctor or specialist in your area.
  • Explore the various treatment options available for sleep disorders, including medication, therapy, and alternative therapies.
  • Take steps to improve the quality of your sleep by establishing a consistent bedtime routine, creating a sleep-friendly environment, and practicing relaxation techniques before bed.
  • Consider using sleep tracking devices or apps to monitor your sleep patterns and identify any potential issues.
  • Prioritize self-care and stress management techniques to reduce the impact of mental health on your sleep.
  • Educate yourself about the connection between sleep disorders and mental health, and advocate for better understanding and treatment within the mental health community.
  • If you suspect that your sleep problems may be related to an underlying mental health condition, consult with a mental health professional for a comprehensive evaluation and treatment plan.
  • Reach out to support groups or online communities

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,...

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Unleashing the Power of Eating, Learning, and Playing: Join CEO Chris Helfrich as he champions the impactful mission of Eat.Learn.Play Foundation to transform underserved communities through its three pillars, challenging the stigmas of charity and inspiring lasting change.

My special guest is Chris Helfrich

Meet Chris Helfrich, the force behind the Eat. Learn. Play. Foundation. Not a stranger to charitable work, Chris has broadened his experience, starting from his endeavors with the UN Foundation Against Malaria to leading the Starlight Children's Foundation. Now, partnering with Ayesha and Steph Curry, Chris is transforming thousands of lives in Oakland through the power of Eat Learn Play. Using this powerful trifecta, Chris and his team advocate for children's access to nutritious food, quality education, and sports activities. His work goes beyond charity; it's about offering dignity, a proud sense of community, and a bright future for those in need.

This bus totally flips receiving charity on its head, where normally there can be real stigma attached to receiving food from a food bank, right? And instead, what we have with the Eat and Play bus is like, kids just flocking to the bus to receive these resources. - Chris Helfrich

Chris Helfrich, CEO of the Eat. Learn. Play. Foundation, was interviewed on the A World of Difference podcast by host Lori Adams-Brown. The conversation centered around the foundation's mission and impact in Oakland, California. Helfrich discussed the three pillars of the foundation: eating, learning, and playing, and emphasized their importance in creating a happy and successful childhood. He shared how the foundation focuses on childhood literacy, with a specific emphasis on third-grade reading levels. Helfrich also highlighted the foundation's commitment to impact over legacy, as well as their partnership with the Curry family. Overall, the episode serves as an inspiring discussion on the work being done by the Eat Learn Play Foundation and the importance of community involvement in making a difference.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Dive into the transformative ethos of the Eat Learn Play Foundation and its initiatives in Oakland.
  • Learn about the concentrated focus the foundation has on the intellectual growth of children.
  • Appreciate the role of unstructured play and physical health in the holistic development of children.
  • Unravel opportunities to participate and make a difference with the foundation's community initiatives.
  • Grasp how local participation is a major asset in addressing and resolving social challenges.

Pivotal Role of Eat Learn Play Foundation

Eat Learn Play Foundation, co-founded by Chris Helfrich, Stephen Curry and his wife author and celebrity chef Ayesha, plays a significant role in uplifting the community in Oakland, California. With a stellar record of delivering 25 million meals, investing in literacy programs, and serving numerous young individuals, they create an impactful difference. Their strategy involves forming robust relationships with influential partners, and operating innovative programs like the mobile bookstore and market bus, fulfilling their mission to nourish, educate, and entertain.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Visit the Eat Learn Play Foundation website to learn more about their mission and the work they do in Oakland.
  • Support the Eat Learn Play Foundation by making a donation to help provide meals, books, and resources to youth in need.
  • Follow Eat Learn Play on social media to stay...

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Silent Suffering: Uncovering the Unique Harm of Abuse within Religious Contexts - Sarah StankorbDo you want to see a positive shift within religious communities, addressing the damaging effects of abuse? Are you eager to create change and raise awareness within faith communities? Join us as we welcome guest Sarah Stankorb, who will share the solution to achieving increased awareness and action in addressing abuse within religious contexts. Together, let's work towards a transformative outcome, where the harmful effects of abuse within faith communities are recognized and addressed.

My special guest is Sarah Stankorb

Sarah Stankorb is not just a journalist; she's an advocate for the unseen and unheard. Her remarkable talent transcends reporting, establishing her as a genuine voice of change within society. Her work resonates with empathy - sketching heart-touching narratives in renowned publications such as The Washington Post and New York Times. In her latest book, 'Disobedient Women', Sarah unveils the deeply haunting experiences of abuse suffered within faith communities. This isn't the limit of her prowess - with qualifications from the University of Chicago's Divinity School and Westminster College, Sarah brings an enriched, well-rounded perspective to her work. Her compassion and zeal

The online reckoning has brought together a community of wounded survivors, revealing the commonality of their experiences and the need for healing and reform within faith communities. - Sarah Stankorb

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Peel back the taboos surrounding exploitation hidden in the folds of religion.
  • Contemplate the societal constructs that endorse gender limitations within evangelical communities.
  • Recognize the long-term impact of abuse masked in the garb of spiritual beliefs.
  • Appreciate the role of online platforms in forging a solidarity among survivors of abuse.
  • Galvanize the need to uplift silenced voices of women, a vital step for inclusive religious spaces.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Pre-order Sarah Stankorb's new book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Started an Evangelical Reckoning on her website or through major online book retailers.
  • Follow Sarah Stankorb on social media (Twitter, Instagram, Threads) for updates on her book release and other writings.
  • Read Sarah Stankorb's articles and essays on women's issues, faith, and culture in publications like the Washington Post, New York Times, Vogue, Marie Claire, Glamour, and O Magazine.
  • Explore Sarah Stankorb's previous works, including her award-winning article Rape Culture Lives Here.
  • Support the Society of Professional Journalists and the Religion News Association, of which Sarah Stankorb is a member.
  • Consider studying ethics, religion, history, or philosophy at the University of Chicago's Divinity School or Westminster College, where Sarah Stankorb graduated with honors.
  • Reflect on the impact of silencing and the importance of using your voice, inspired by Sarah Stankorb's personal experience with a vocal disorder.
  • Challenge toxic theology and harmful...

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Discover the shocking truth about toxic work environments and the defense mechanism that keeps us blind to the abuse. Join host Lori Adams-Brown as she interviews whistleblower Amy Fritz, who exposes the dark underbelly of a faith-based organization, leaving you questioning who you can trust and what lies beneath the surface of your own workplace.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the need for addressing unhealthy work conditions prevalent in faith-driven spaces.
  • Grasp how turning a blind eye to betrayal contributes to toxic workplaces.
  • Unearth the complex process of reconciling faith with the practices of Christian authorities and groups.
  • Recognize the extensive impact of harmful work conditions on employees and their families.
  • Know the vital role of opposing maltreatment and backing individuals on their journey of faith.

My special guest is Amy Fritz

Meet Amy Fritz: a champion for people who have found themselves wrapped up in toxic work environments and a tireless advocate for the exposure of complicated coping mechanisms like betrayal blindness. Drawing from her personal journey and deeply-rooted faith, Amy has turned the lessons from her experiences into a brave and confronting podcast, “Untangled Faith”. Here, she illuminates the pervasive issues often hidden in the background of workplaces, offering understanding, solidarity and hope to those battling similar demons. Amy personifies the transformative power of speaking out, keeping her faith at the heart of all she does.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Check out Amy Fritz's podcast, Untangled Faith, for community, encouragement, and anti-gaslighting support for those who have had difficult experiences with toxic work environments and churches.
  • Attend Podcast Movement in Denver in August to meet both Amy Fritz and Lori Adams-Brown, and connect with other podcast hosts and industry professionals.
  • Read Jennifer Fried's book, Blind to Betrayal, to gain a deeper understanding of betrayal blindness and its impact on individuals in toxic environments.
  • Explore the concept of Darvo (deny, attack, reverse victim and offender) coined by the same person who introduced the term betrayal blindness. This can help shed light on manipulative tactics used in toxic environments.
  • Reflect on the potential costs of staying in a toxic work environment or church, such as the loss of income, community, and relationships. Consider seeking professional guidance or support in making difficult decisions.
  • Take steps to recognize betrayal blindness

Betrayal blindness can prevent us from recognizing toxic work environments and the harm they can cause. - Amy Fritz

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:01:19 - Amy's Background and Podcast,

00:07:46 - Betrayal Blindness,

00:12:36 - Impact on Relationships and Community,

00:14:57 - Amy's Experience with Ramsey Solutions,

00:16:49 - Volunteering Information and Admin Duties,

00:18:35 - Gossip and Negative Feedback,

00:20:00 - Toxic Culture and Cover-ups,

00:22:25 - Resignation and Lies,

00:27:06 - Image Management and Abuse,

00:32:56 - Dave's Endorsement of Timeshare Exit Team,

00:35:29 - Untangling

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Transform toxic cultures and pivot towards emotional health as authors Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer guide churches and institutions through a gritty and transformative process that challenges the quick-fix mentality in creating cultures of goodness.

It's gritty and messy, not flashy and glitzy. Making a difference requires deep, transformative change. - Scot McKnight

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Master the art of fostering emotionally nourishing spaces inside your church or institution.
  • Explore the influence of power and its four prepositions in sparking timely institutional transformations.
  • Understand the vital role of character development in shaping healthier and more efficient environments.
  • Get acquainted with thoughtful strategies and dynamic tools that promise positive change within your organization.
  • Comprehend the intricate process of transformation, emphasizing the importance of long-term accountability and ownership.

My special guests are Scot McKnight, Laura Barringer

Today’s conversation features Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, a dynamic father-daughter duo. Scot’s knowledge of the Bible and theology is deeply respected, and his role as the Chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary further enhances that authority. His extensive bibliography includes favorites like “The King Jesus Gospel” and insightful commentaries on James Galatians and First Peter. Laura, an elementary school teacher by trade, has found her voice in writing. She has not only co-authored with Scot but is also making strides in public speaking. Together, their latest book, “Pivot”, explores transformative cultural change in churches and institutions.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

It's not about the next biggest hit that we're addicted to. It's about deep work that walks through shame and does repair. - Laura Barringer

  • Purchase A Church Called Tov book
  • Purchase Pivot book
  • Check out Dr. Scot McKnight's other books, such as The King Jesus Gospel and his commentaries on James, Galatians, and 1 Peter
  • Explore the Second Testament Bible translation by Dr. Scot McKnight
  • Learn more about the New Testament chair at Northern Seminary
  • Consider booking Laura Barrringer for speaking engagements
  • Check out the Christian Book Award finalist nomination for A Church Called Tove
  • Explore the concept of Darvo mentioned in the podcast
  • Learn about the three P's in Pivot: priorities, practices, and powers
  • Focus on character development in churches and institutions
  • Take character tests and assessments mentioned in the book
  • Consider the power dynamics in your own church or organization
  • Reflect on how power is used and misused
  • Learn from the example of Oak Hills Church in California
  • Explore Dallas Willard's ideas of transformation
  • Consider reducing church size and budget to focus on transformation
  • Understand the importance of empathy and care in leadership

We are delighted to have Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer joining us today. Scot is a revered figure in the world of theology, not just as the chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary, but also as an established author introducing new perspectives on the Christian faith. His latest bible translation, The Second Testament, has been positively received by the community. Laura, Scot’s daughter, is equally accomplished. An elementary school teacher by profession, Laura’s influence extends to the written word. She uses her experiences and insights in extending conversations around church culture. Their collective wisdom in faith-based discussions is mirrored in their latest collaboration, “Pivot”.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:03:04 - Overview of "Pivot,"

00:08:59 -...

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Join Jocelyn Chong, the resilient banking industry leader turned emotional health advocate, as she challenges leaders to prioritize self-care, embrace vulnerability, and navigate the central conflict of balancing achievement and well-being on their path to enhanced leadership effectiveness.

Nourish your body and mind with good sleep, nourishing food, and healthy habits. Take time to rest, play, and connect with your loved ones. Remember, life is short, don't take things too seriously. - Jocelyn Chong

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover why caring for your own emotional well-being can be a game changer for effective leadership.
  • Uncover the keys to outstanding communication within your diverse team.
  • Realize the vital role of stepping beyond your comfort zone in both your personal and professional evolution.
  • Grasp the significance of keeping pace with our changing world through continual learning and adaptation.
  • Recognize the impact that a strong network of mentorship and support can have on your leadership journey.

My special guest is Jocelyn Chong, an accomplished business growth mentor and coach from Australia. Having started her journey in Malaysia, Jocelyn brings a profound understanding of multicultural intricacies to her work. With over two decades of experience leading distinguished teams in banking and finance, she has honed her skills in establishing effective communication across different cultures. Her diverse background combined with her expertise in infusing spirituality within business nurtures her success as a four-time #1 international bestselling author, keynote speaker and certified life coach.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Connect with Jocelyn Chong: Reach out to Jocelyn Chong on her website or social media platforms to learn more about her coaching and mentoring services.
  • Seek out a mentor: If you're a team leader or aspiring leader, find a mentor who has experience in your field and can provide guidance and support.
  • Join a support network: Look for a network or community of like-minded individuals who are facing similar challenges in their leadership roles. This can provide a valuable space for sharing ideas and gaining insights.
  • Utilize Ed's Profiling: Consider using Ed's Profiling or a similar tool to better understand your own behavior and communication style, and how to effectively engage with team members who have different strengths and communication styles.
  • Prioritize self-care: As a leader, it's important to prioritize your own emotional, mental, spiritual, and physical health. Invest in self-care strategies that will support your overall well-being and enable you to better serve others.
  • Take uncomfortable actions: Remember that growth often happens outside of our comfort zones. Embrace discomfort and take risks in order to achieve your dreams and reach your full potential.
  • Simplify communication: When leading a diverse team, strive to

Your dreams are always on the other side of the spectrum where it's uncomfortable. When we can think about that zone, you will always get closer to your dreams when you do uncomfortable things. - Jocelyn Chong

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

00:02:59 - Adapting to a New Country,

00:07:46 - Overcoming Obstacles,

00:12:33 - Connecting with Others,

00:15:57 - Becoming a Strong Leader,

00:18:05 - Importance of Self Leadership,

00:19:30 - Rest and Renewal,

00:23:40 - Finding Balance and Enjoyment,

00:26:24 - Positioning for the Future of Work,

00:31:57 - Leading Ourselves and Others,

00:34:52 - Final Thoughts and Call to Action,

00:35:33 - The Importance of Sharing,...

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Does this sound familiar? You've been told to just get over it or move on from a traumatic experience or oppressive situation. But despite your efforts, you're still struggling with overwhelming emotions and pain. You're not alone. In fact, ignoring or suppressing emotions can actually make things worse. It's time to take a different approach. Join us in this episode as we explore the profound impact of trauma and oppression on emotional health. We'll help you identify and effectively process emotions for personal growth, and show you the power of community support in overcoming emotional challenges. Let's heal together.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Discover the significance of emotional health and well-being in our daily lives.
  • Learn to identify and effectively process emotions for personal growth.
  • Explore the profound effects of trauma and oppression on emotional well-being.
  • Delve into the fascinating connection between faith and emotional health.
  • Understand the role of community support in overcoming emotional challenges.

My special guest is Becky Castle Miller

Let us introduce you to Becky Castle-Miller, a dedicated PhD student studying the New Testament at Wheaton College, mentored by Esau McCauley. Her fascinating research in the Gospel of Luke explores the impact of trauma and oppression on emotions, providing invaluable insights into emotional health and healing. Serving as Discipleship Director at an international church in the Netherlands for nearly a decade, Becky is passionate about promoting emotional, mental, and spiritual well-being within faith communities.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Check out Beth Allison Barr's Substack for commentary on the recent events in the Southern Baptist Convention.
  • Be wary of leaders who claim to support women but have a history of covering up abuse.
  • Educate yourself on the latest scientific research on emotions to better understand the emotions mentioned in the Bible.
  • Consider the impact of trauma on emotions when studying the Gospel.
  • Look into Pete Scazzero's book, Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, for guidance on emotional health.
  • Practice more collective lament and self-reflection as a church to address past and current complicity in abuse and systemic issues like racism and patriarchy.
  • Encourage pastors to gain a deeper understanding of emotions and trauma to better serve their congregations.
  • Seek out resources and tools for emotional, mental, and spiritual health, such as counseling or therapy, support groups, and self-help books.

Creating Change in Patriarchal Systems

Patriarchal systems often perpetuate unhealthy norms around emotional expression and communication. To create positive change, individuals must be willing to reject the culture that socialized them and learn new ways to express emotions, listen to others, and understand the values they reflect. Such changes can challenge existing power structures and promote a more equitable environment where all individuals are encouraged to express themselves emotionally, regardless of their gender. Becky Castle Miller argues that creating change in emotional health within patriarchal systems is essential and possible, countering common narratives that separate rationality and emotionality. By embracing the idea that rationality and emotionality are part of the same process, Castle Miller's work provides a strong foundation for reforming faith-based communities to create emotionally supportive environments where everyone can thrive.

When we use emotions and interpret them, especially around gender and culture, in ways that are not honest and not informed by multiple perspectives, we get ourselves in the situations that we're currently in. - Becky Castle Miller

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Join podcast host Lori Adams-Brown in this thrilling episode of A World of Difference as she uncovers the alarming events at the Southern Baptist Convention in New Orleans, discussing the controversy surrounding women pastors and the issue of abuse within the church. With personal experiences as a woman pastor in the Southern Baptist Convention and a victim of abuse, Lori candidly shares her reaction to what she witnessed. Be warned of potential triggering content. From discussing the use of NDAs to cover up abuse to the need to shift the basic ideas and theology behind the "umbrella authority" structure, this episode unpacks a range of issues affecting the church. With calls to action for listeners to support survivors, encourage whistleblowers and advocate for human rights, this podcast is a must-listen for those wanting to make a difference and bring about change. Let's set aside differences and come together to support survivors and create safer spaces for all.

Long Summary

In A World of Difference, Lori Adams-Brown addresses the Southern Baptist Convention and the difficult subject of abuse allegations and sexism within the church. As a survivor of abuse at the hands of Andy Wood, the successor to Rick Warren at Saddleback Church, Lori has a personal and emotional connection to the issue. She calls out specific men who she does not believe are effective allies and is disappointed by the treatment of women pastors. She invites everyone to join the conversation about making a difference, acknowledging the diversity of her audience. Guests including Dr. Kristen Kobaz Doumet and Dr. Diane Langberg suggest that the convention needs to take a systemic approach to combating abuse and sexism, including the need for women to be involved in diagnosing the problem. The speakers express their sadness regarding the devolution of the SBC from its core theology of the "priesthood of all believers" into limiting women's direct access to Jesus. The podcasts suggest that Echo and Saddleback Church bring in an organization specializing in investigating churches in the wake of abuse allegations to address abuse allegations at a mega church in Silicon Valley. The podcast encourages people to speak out, support survivors, and join the movement for positive change. The speaker emphasizes the need to find a better way to deal with a difficult situation and stop excusing, minimizing, and throwing hands up in the air. Listen to A World of Difference for a raw and powerful conversation about the struggles of making a difference in a male-centric denomination.

Timestamps

[00:00:02] Disturbing Aspects of the Southern Baptist Convention

[00:04:06] Controversy over women pastors in Southern Baptist Convention

[00:08:11] Grappling with Abuse and Women in the Church

[00:11:35] Abuse Cover-ups in Saddleback and Echo Church

[00:15:29] Challenges of Reporting Abuse in Christian Communities

[00:19:17] Supporting Trauma Survivors and Female Representation

[00:22:38] Questioning Use of Male Allies for Women

[00:26:33] Power Abuse in Religion

[00:30:15] Rick Warren's Damaging Leadership and Misogyny

[00:33:57] Addressing Sexism and Racism in the SBC

[00:37:38] Importance of Third-Party Investigation in Abuse Allegations

[00:41:30] Call to Ban NDAs and Remove Abuser in Southern Baptist Convention

[00:45:19] Empowering Listeners for Change

Episode Links

Lori on Hagar's Voice podcast

Lori on Bodies Behind the Bus podcast

Women in the Church series

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[00:10:12] Women don't need permission from any man, church, or denomination to use a gift

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Surviving in Toxic Environments: Dr. L. Carol Scott shares essential self-care strategies to thrive in the midst of challenging circumstances and navigate the conflict between self-preservation and external pressures.

Does the stress and chaos of an unhealthy environment leave you feeling overwhelmed? Have you been told to just tough it out and keep pushing forward, only to find yourself exhausted and burnt out? It's time to stop the cycle of ineffective self-care and start prioritizing your well-being. Our episode will guide you through essential techniques for navigating change, acknowledging and validating your emotions, focusing on what is within your control, and seizing newfound possibilities. Don't continue to suffer through the pain of an unhealthy environment. Join us and start implementing practical and effective self-care practices for positive well-being.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Delve into practical tips for managing the unpredictable nature of change.
  • Recognize the value in honoring and legitimizing your feelings.
  • Acquire skills to target controllable factors amidst upheaval.
  • Develop the art of adapting and tapping into emerging prospects.
  • Comprehend the necessity for self-nurturing and seeking assistance during transitions.

My special guest is Dr. L. Carol Scott

As a seasoned psychologist and advocate for self-care, Dr. L. Carol Scott is a sought-after expert when it comes to maintaining one's mental and physical health in challenging situations. Having spent years providing support to individuals in unhealthy environments, she understands the importance of establishing self-care practices that promote personal growth and resilience. Dr. Scott's wealth of experience and personable approach make her a valuable resource for anyone seeking guidance on preserving their well-being in the face of adversity.

We have to break the cycle of unhealthy relationships and create boundaries in order to truly practice self-care. - Dr. L. Carol Scott

Growing up in chaos, Dr. L. Carol Scott learned the importance of self-care early on. But what happens when the unhealthy environment follows you into adulthood? Through trial and error, Dr. Scott discovered the key to thriving in any situation lies in taking control of your own well-being. Her journey proved that even in the toughest of times, you can find peace and balance by prioritizing self-care. Now, Dr. Scott shares her invaluable insights with those facing similar challenges, offering guidance and support to improve their self-care practices. But how did she refine her approach to self-care? Stay tuned to find out.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Share this episode with a friend or family member who is going through a change.
  • Take time to recognize and validate your emotions around change, using tools like therapy or self-reflection.
  • Focus on the parts of the change that you can control and take action where possible.
  • Stay flexible and adaptable, embracing new opportunities instead of resisting them.
  • Practice self-care during times of change, using tools like exercise, mindfulness, or therapy to care for yourself.
  • Consider becoming a Patreon supporter to access exclusive content and interviews with experts like Dr. L. Carol Scott.
  • Check out the resources and tools mentioned in the episode, such as the Enneagram personality test or the book The Change Cycle by Ann Salerno and Lillie Brock.
  • Join the A World of Difference community on social media to connect with others who are navigating change and making a difference in the world.

Recognizing Emotions and Rationalizing Change

Emotional intelligence plays a crucial role in dealing with change, as individuals learn to recognize, understand, and respond to their emotions effectively. Emotional...

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Join Lori Adams-Brown on the A World of Difference Podcast as she takes on the issue of abuse and cover-ups within the Southern Baptist Convention. As a survivor of abuse herself, Lori advocates for the importance of sharing survivor stories, and calls out abusive churches and pastors. She urges Echo.church and the Southern Baptist Convention to prioritize listening to and believing survivors and to end the use of NDAs. Lori stresses that it's time to let the truth set everyone free and calls for a collective effort toward healing and restoration. Don't miss this powerful and moving episode of A World of Difference.

Looking for a podcast that tackles tough issues with honesty and transparency? Look no further than A World of Difference, hosted by Lori Adams-Brown. In this eye-opening episode, Adams-Brown pulls back the curtain on the ongoing problem of abuse and cover-up within the Southern Baptist Convention. Drawing on her own experiences as a survivor of abuse at the hands of a former Southern Baptist pastor, Adams-Brown offers a unique perspective on the problem and the need for change within the church community.

Throughout the podcast, Adams-Brown challenges listeners to confront the reality of abuse and to take a stand against those who would perpetrate it. She calls for greater transparency and openness within the church, urging faith communities everywhere to center and believe survivors who share their stories of abuse. Along the way, she shares powerful insights and tools for healing from trauma, including the importance of building a support system and cultivating mindfulness.

If you're looking for a podcast that's unafraid to tackle the tough issues and speak out for change, A World of Difference is the series for you. Tune in now to join the conversation and become part of the movement to end abuse and promote healing within the Southern Baptist Convention and beyond.

Timestamps

[00:00:02] Women Pastors and Abuse Allegations in Southern Baptist Convention

[00:03:28] Speaking out against abuse in Southern Baptist community

[00:07:08] Leaving Denomination Over Religious Abuse

[00:11:03] Importance of survivors sharing stories and releasing NDAs

[00:14:58] Advocating for Women's Voices in Southern Baptist Convention

[00:19:14] Taking Action Against Abuse and Supporting Survivors

[00:22:44] Prioritizing accountability and truth in the church

Episode Links

Podcast Series where Lori Adams-Brown and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of psychological and spiritual abuse at a megachurch in Silicon Valley: Our Story Podcast Series

Quotes

[00:04:29] Here's me addressing some of these issues as a whistleblower as somebody who has walked through abuse and trauma recovery and wants to warn people about a wolf that is among us and all the smoke and mirrors surrounding the image management that would distract us from 1 of the main issues that should be addressed right now, which is the abuse and the abuse allegations and the cover up

[00:04:52] It's not always what happened, it's how people respond and the cover up is some of the most painful parts of what many of you and the abuse survivor community have walked through myself included who not only had the board of my own church sort of circle the wagons and be Yes men and cover up everything with image management

[00:07:02] I can no longer, as of a few years ago, be a part of a denomination that has chosen to cover up abuse Because of silent bystanders, because of money, because of power, because of all the things we see that happen to whistle blowers and all of it makes sense. And yet it doesn't make sense at all

[00:09:06] It pains me to see so many people hurting and reeling from trauma after emotional abuse, psychological abuse, verbal abuse, spiritual abuse, labor abuse, financial abuse, abusive power that included bullying, intimidation, coercion, name calling, gaslighting, isolating, slandering, recording without our consent, making certain staff so miserable

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[00:04:29] Here's me addressing some of these issues as a whistleblower as somebody who has walked through abuse and trauma recovery and wants to warn people about a wolf that is among us and all the smoke and mirrors surrounding the image management that would distract us from 1 of the main issues that should be addressed right now, which is the abuse and the abuse allegations and the cover up

[00:05:38] And so we warn so that others don't have to walk through this. So I offer this to you, and let me know what you think. It's been a hard 3 or 4 years, maybe more. There are systems we're challenging. There are systems we trusted that we no longer trust. There are skeletons behind closets that have shocked us all. And there are dark secrets behind curtains that some saw for many years and decades and generations and others have only recently

[00:07:02] I can no longer, as of a few years ago, be a part of a denomination that has chosen to cover up abuse

[00:08:16] And when there is good and bad mixed in, it can be so easy to just ignore the bad and focus on the good, and there's nothing wrong with seeing beauty, but at the same time if there is something poisoning our community of is a cancer that is killing us

[00:12:24] It is time to release the NDAs, and I call up on southern Baptist to urge Felipe Santos to release the NDAs to urge Andy Wood and work Warren to tell Felipe Santos that those NDAs must be released so that survivors can make their own choice as to whether or not they share their stories

[00:02:36] And as many of you know, my my journey of walking through abuse, trauma recovery over the past couple of years has been I've had to keep my world a little bit smaller

[00:15:20] Being a lead pastor of a mega church is hard. It requires listening. To women, especially when they bring challenge to one's blind spots, it requires a devotion to truth a heart of a caring shepherd, and a posture of helping staff do their jobs better

[00:09:06] It pains me to see so many people hurting and reeling from trauma after emotional abuse, psychological abuse, verbal abuse, spiritual abuse, labor abuse, financial abuse, abusive power that included bullying, intimidation, coercion, name calling, gaslighting, isolating, slandering, recording without our consent, making certain staff so miserable that

[00:09:35] Retaliation against employees who reported abuse by being fired and given NDAs tied to severance and medical insurance

[00:09:56] Some of you have had to do EMDR therapy to get rid of the trauma nightmares that you have had for years from 1 on 1 meetings that you had each with Andy Wood and Felipe Santos separately, and occasionally the 2 of those with just you in a room behind closed stores, where there was no 1, there was no 1 to be by your side and vouch for you, and there was no 1 to bear witness, and there was no 1 to have another narrative as you were being gaslit

[00:14:23] Whether or not the SBC lets Andywood or Saddleback, Church back into the SBC will show whether abuse really matters

[00:16:02] A mega church lead pastor's words have power to sway minds, distract from truth, and cover up abuse with a stage and a microphone, leaving survivors falsely accused, discredited. And their abuse covered up

[00:10:49] Others stayed here and lost the community when you were shunned for speaking out about what happened, or just because you left or were fired and a false narrative was created that you had quit

[00:00:53] I know many of you in this community identify as Southern Baptist currently. And some of you previously identified as Southern Baptist, or were a part of that denomination for many years

[00:07:30] Because of silent bystanders, because of money, because of power, because of all the things we see that happen to whistle blowers and all of it makes sense. And yet it doesn't make sense at all

[00:13:43] There's a struggle to be heard. There's in just repeated on a flywheel of abuse that lures and grooms and love bombs, not with candy or a white van, but with free mugs and free t shirts and lavish parties and young professionals that can find someone to date and a stage with big smiles and free concerts every Sunday

[00:03:00] I've intentionally brought around me as a village of healers with your different areas of expertise, being subject matter experts and just professionals in the way that has helped me heal through coaching and spiritual direction and therapist and just all the different parts of this village that has been such a blessing to me

[00:00:23] There are continuing to be mega church pastors and small church pastors who are being accused of abuse. And this is not new

[00:02:04] I've had a few of you reach out just to hear my perspective to, you know, want me to kinda week into it either on your podcast or or into articles

[00:04:52] It's not always what happened, it's how people respond and the cover up is some of the most painful parts of what many of you and the abuse survivor community have walked through myself included who not only had the board of my own church sort of circle the wagons and be Yes men and cover up everything with image management

Lori Adams-Brown's podcast provides valuable insights into the issue of women pastors and the controversy surrounding the Southern Baptist Convention. It is a must-listen for anyone concerned about the situation.

Quote: "I know many of you in this community identify as Southern Baptist currently. And some of you previously identified as Southern Baptist, or were a part of that denomination for many years. And others of you are just people of faith of many different faith backgrounds, whether it's a Christian background, or a Jewish background, Muslim, any of you who are in faith communities are also expressing concern about what has been going on here in the United States around the situation with the Southern Baptist convention."

Quote: "And so I've had a few of you reach out just to hear my perspective, to want me to kinda week into it either on your podcast or into articles. And so I'm just really busy right now with my job that I love and my family that I have been time with. And as many of you know, my journey of walking through abuse, trauma recovery over the past couple of years has been I've had to keep my world a little bit smaller. Just to heal."

Other EPS you may enjoy:

Kate Wallace Nunneley on Women Pastors & the Junia Project

Dr. Nijay Gupta- Uncovering Her Story: How Women Led, Taught and Ministered in the Early Church

Dr. Lynn Cohick, a New Testament Scholar on Women Leading in the Early Church

Dr. Beth Allison Barr on Women Leaders in Church History and Implications in the SBC

Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer on Exposing Abuse, Centering Whistleblowers and Cultivating Goodness in Church

Dr. Wade Mullen on Impression Management After Abuse Allegations and How to Decode the False Narratives to Hide Dark Secrets Behind the Curtain

For further research:

  1. Narcissism and the Systems it Breeds video of Dr. Diane Langberg's presentation
  2. When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGroat
  3. A Church Called TOV by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
  4. Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Dr. Diane Langberg
  5. Talk Dr. Wade Mullen gave at the Restore conference in Chicago.
  6. Something’s Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse – and Freeing Yourself From Its Power by Dr. Wade Mullen
  7. Dr. Wade Mullen's dissertation titled “Impression Management Strategies Used by Evangelical Organizations in the Wake of an Image-threatening Event.” You can get that dissertation for free here.

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Discover the unexpected twist in Dr. Scot McKnight's journey toward creating a more literal Bible translation that will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about the New Testament. Are you ready to slow down, think, and immerse yourself in the first-century Christian world?

Words matter, especially in translations of the Bible. Join us as we dive into the world of New Testament translations with Scot McKnight and uncover the importance of accurate translations and the impact they can have. When it comes to women in ministry, though, and the use of certain words, will the translation choices make or break their place in the church? Find out in this thought-provoking discussion.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Recognize the value of cultural understanding and meticulous translation in the proper interpretation of the Bible.
  • Delve into the intricate dynamics of power within the church and their varied consequences.
  • Learn how to address spiritual abuse effectively and foster a support system for survivors.
  • Embrace the core principles of good leadership and the altruistic use of power in ministry.
  • Highlight the vital insights shared by women scholars and survivors for a more inclusive faith community.

My special guest is Dr. Scot McKnight

Meet Dr. Scot McKnight, a renowned New Testament professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois and a prolific author with a passion for diving deep into the cultural context of biblical texts. As a guest on Lori Adams-Brown's podcast, Scot brings his expertise in Bible translation and interpretation, having written over 90 books, including widely-read titles like "A Church Called Tove" and "The Blue Parakeet." A dedicated advocate for abuse survivors and a favorite professor among his students, Dr. McKnight's insights are sure to enrich your understanding of the Bible.

"I believe in the power of a more literal translation."- Dr. Scot McKnight

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Pre-order Dr. Scott McKnight's new translation of the New Testament, The Second Testament. Use AWORLD23 to get 30% off plus free shipping at @ivpress.com on The Second Testament through June 7.
  • Subscribe to Dr. McKnight's Substack newsletter, the Jesus Creed.
  • Consider taking Greek classes with Dr. McKnight at Northern Seminary.
  • Purchase Dr. McKnight's books, including A Church Called Tov, The King Jesus Gospel, and The Blue Parakeet.
  • Follow Dr. McKnight's blog, the Jesus Creed.
  • Read Dr. McKnight's contributions as general editor of the Dictionary of Paul and His Letters.
  • Explore the Everyday Bible series, including the First Testament by John Golden Gay and The Kingdom New Testament by Tom Wright.

The Way of Jesus

Good leadership in the church involves recognizing, using, and sharing power in ways that are faithful to the teachings of Jesus. Followers of Jesus should strive to cultivate humility, compassion, and an attitude of serving others, often forgoing one's power to benefit those who are more vulnerable. Dr. Scot McKnight, during the podcast interview, mentioned several examples of power abuse in the church, contrasting them with the biblical teachings of Jesus. He specifically cited Romans 16 and Philippians 2:1-11, which emphasize the concept of Kenosis – the act of laying down one's power to serve others. McKnight believes that understanding this concept and applying it in the context of leadership and church relationships is essential to embodying the way of Jesus and countering the negative aspects of power dynamics in churches.

"Words deeply matter, and those words can wound and they can hurt for a long time." - Dr. Scot McKnight

Women in Ministry

An accurate translation plays a crucial role in recognizing and valuing the contributions of women in the early church. Being mindful of the words used to describe women's roles is crucial as language can shape our understanding and reinforce stereotypes or power dynamics within the church. By translating words and phrases accurately, women's contributions to the early church can be acknowledged and celebrated more fairly. During the conversation, Dr. McKnight emphasized the importance of using accurate translation to highlight women's roles in the church, such as translating the word Phoebe to mean "deacon" rather than "servant." He also mentioned the prevalence of false narratives and power dynamics in church culture that can negatively affect how people perceive women's roles in ministry. By ensuring accurate translations, he believes we can better acknowledge, value, and empower women working in the church.

Keeping Names Authentic

One of the essential aspects of ensuring cultural authenticity in a Bible translation is the use of names as close as possible to what they would have sounded in the original language. This offers a sense of novelty and unfamiliarity for readers, prompting reflection on the context and culture surrounding the text. By preserving the original names, readers can gain deeper insights into the characters and their significance in the narrative. Dr. McKnight uses transliteration in his translation, meaning that names in the Bible are rendered more authentically, closer to their original language. For instance, Yakobos is used instead of the English equivalent, James. Dr. McKnight argued during the podcast that using such authentic names invites readers to reconsider the context and culture of the Bible's characters, creating a more engaging and meaningful reading experience.

"We need to be careful with the words we use for translations because if we don't get it right, it can hurt people." - Dr. Scot McKnight

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Dr. Scott McKnight is an advocate in the survivor community and a professor at Northern Seminary in Illinois. He has written over 90 books and blogs on the Jesus Creed. He talks about his new translation of the New Testament, the Second Testament, which he made more literal to help people understand the ancient context of the text.

00:06:01 - Reason for New Translation,

McKnight believes that the capacity to translate Greek into English has reached near perfection, but people miss things when they try to make it a natural English equivalent. He wants to show people the differences between the original Greek sentence and the English sentence.

00:11:37 - Distinctives of the Second Testament,

McKnight was inspired to translate the New Testament after reading John Golden Gay's translation of the Old Testament. One of the distinctives is the transliteration of names, which may be confusing but creates an authentic ancient context. McKnight's translation sometimes sounds clunky because it is formally equivalent, but that helps readers slow down and think.

00:14:57 - Keeping Names Authentic,

The Second Testament transliterates names to help readers understand the ancient context. This makes the text feel foreign and distant, which is appropriate, as it helps readers dig deeper into cultural exegesis. McKnight believes that being familiar with the text can be a hindrance to truly understanding it.

00:15:47 - Familiarity with the Text,

Familiarity with the text can sometimes hold us back in understanding it.

00:16:13 - The Impact of Names on Reading,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the impact of names on reading and how different names can lead readers to think differently and understand a text in a new way. He suggests that using the original Greek text can take readers into the first-century Christian world and help them understand the text in a new light.

00:18:10 - Women in Ministry,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the controversy around women pastors, using the example of the lack of pastors in the Bible. He suggests that titles such as Presbuteros, Episkopos, Diakonos were used instead. He also refers to Romans 16, which mentions several women involved in church ministry, including an apostle and a deacon.

00:22:54 - Multiculturalism in the Early Church,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the multicultural and multiracial nature of the early church, with a mix of slaves and free people, men and women, and Jews and Gentiles. He draws attention to the several women mentioned in Romans 16, performing ministries that today would be called pastoring.

00:27:39 - The Importance of Language,

Dr. Scot McKnight emphasizes the importance of language and translation, pointing out that the wrong translation can hurt people. He uses the example of King James' Bible, which made choices to keep its subjects subdued. He also discusses the power dynamics in evangelical churches and how they favor men and certain behaviors that have become manly.

00:33:10 - The Four Types of Power,

Dr. Scot McKnight discusses the four types of power: power over, power to influence, power with, and power for. He explains how power over is the most corrupted form of power and how it is prevalent in the business world, sports, and even the church. He also highlights the importance of using power for the good of others and sharing power with others.

00:35:25 - The Power With,

Dr. McKnight delves deeper into the concept of power with and how it involves the willingness to share power with someone else to achieve a mutually beneficial outcome. He cites his experience of co-authoring a book with a young man and how they worked together to create a cohesive product.

00:36:53 - Power For,

Dr. McKnight discusses the last type of power, power for, which involves using one's power for the good of another person. He cites Jesus Christ as an example of this type of power, as He came not to be served but to serve and give His life for others.

00:40:00 - Dealing with Spiritual Abuse,

Dr. McKnight advises people who are experiencing spiritual abuse or know someone who is to first become healthy enough to handle the blowback that comes with going public. He also stresses the importance of having a support system and following the proper protocols or guidelines for reporting abuse. Lastly, he emphasizes the need for patience and resilience as it may take a long time to see change.

00:50:50 - Abusing Power in Churches,

Dr. Scott McKnight discusses how some pastors and church leaders abuse their power, particularly with vulnerable members such as children. He encourages readers to follow his work in understanding power dynamics and using power for good, especially with survivors of abuse.

00:52:00 - The Way of Jesus,

Dr. Scott McKnight emphasizes the way of Jesus in using power for good and elevating others. He references the Kenosis passage in Philippians 2 and encourages listeners to learn how to understand and wield their power for the benefit of others.

00:53:38 - Call to Action,

Lori Adams-Brown issues a call to action for listeners to use their power for good, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages finding a survivor and listening to their story while respecting their autonomy and using power to elevate their voice and support them.

00:54:48 - Tov

Lori Adams-Brown references Dr. Scott McKnight and Laura Behringer's book, A Church Called TOV, and highlights the importance of using power in tov, or goodness, particularly with survivors of abuse. She encourages listeners to find ways to support survivors and let them lead the way in how they want to share their stories and move forward.

00:56:03 - Conclusion,

Lori Adams-Brown thanks listeners for their work in making a difference and encourages them to read Dr. Scot McKnight's book, Second Testament. She also hints at future episodes with Dr. Scot McKnight and his new book with Laura Barringer as a follow up to A Church Called TOV.

More Key Takeaways

  • Appreciate the role of cultural context and precise translation in interpreting the Bible effectively.
  • Comprehend the various power dynamics at play within the church and their implications.
  • Recognize signs of spiritual abuse, ensuring adequate support for survivors.
  • Grasp the crucial need for responsible leadership and the ethical use of power.
  • Discover the valuable contributions of female scholars and survivors in the ministry.
  • Realize the importance of context and accurate translation in unlocking the true meaning of biblical passages.
  • Uncover diversities in church power dynamics and their impacts on members.
  • Identify the nature of spiritual abuse and the ways to help survivors heal.
  • Understand the significance of virtuous leadership and the fair exercise of power for communal benefit.
  • Shed light on the often-overlooked perspectives of women scholars and abuse survivors in ministry.

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In this episode, author Zachary Wagner recounts his personal journey and explores the irony of the purity culture movement in the white American evangelical subculture, highlighting the need for men to join the conversation about sexual violence and misconduct in church spaces.

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Identify the repercussions of toxic masculinity within the Church and initiate constructive conversations.
  • Confront the issues of power abuse and spiritual maltreatment, promoting healthier religious communities.
  • Recognize the impact of cultural norms and pornography on men's behaviors and attitudes.
  • Advocate for the inclusion of women's input in discussions about harmful male stereotypes.
  • Prioritize personal well-being and self-care in pursuit of a mentally and emotionally fulfilling journey.

My special guest is Zachary Wagner

Introducing Zachary Wagner- a writer, researcher, ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings. Originally from the Chicagoland area, he now lives in Oxford, England, where he is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the editorial director of the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach’s other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse.

Follow Zachary on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/zacharycwagner

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Purchase Nontoxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality by Zachary Wagner.
  • Check out the Center for Pastor Theologians and listen to their podcast.
  • Follow Zachary Wagner on social media for more updates and insights.
  • Read more about the #ChurchToo movement and the #MToo movement to stay informed and educated.
  • Consider seeking therapy or counseling if you have experienced trauma or shame related to sexuality.
  • Speak out against toxic masculinity and actively work to promote healthy and respectful attitudes towards all genders.
  • Support organizations and initiatives that work towards ending sexual violence and abuse, both in and outside of religious spaces.

Pornography and Its Effects

Zachary Wagner addresses the impact pornography has on male attitudes and behaviors surrounding sexuality. He notes that this cultural force often influences the formation of compulsive habits and promotes immature expressions of sexuality. Wagner also discusses the male brain's interaction with pornography, potentially shaping attitudes towards women even without direct exposure to explicit content. He encourages men to rethink their sexual responses and move away from the harmful effects of pornography. Instead, he urges them to adopt more humanizing and mature ways of engaging with their sexuality, demonstrating respect and understanding for themselves and others. By doing so, we can foster healthier relationships and a society where individuals are not subjected to the harmful consequences of toxic masculinity.

Harmful Effects of Toxic Masculinity

Toxic masculinity is a prevailing issue with far-reaching consequences beyond perpetuating negative male stereotypes. It has harmful effects on both men and women, hindering the formation of healthy relationships and contributing to a culture of abuse and violence. When discussing his personal experiences growing up within white American evangelical subculture, Zachary Wagner sheds light on the shame he felt surrounding sexuality, exacerbated by his wife's experiences of childhood sexual abuse. Wagner believes that while sexual abuse is not a recent phenomenon, the increasing awareness of its prevalence is noteworthy. For change to happen, it is vital for men to actively engage in conversations about toxic masculinity and to take responsibility in finding solutions to the problem. He calls for an effort to break free from the distorted images of manhood and gender that have persisted for so long.

Toxic Masculinity in Megachurches

The discussion highlights the connection between toxic masculinity and megachurches in the United States. These churches often prioritize pragmatism, measuring success in terms of numbers and financial gains, which can contravene genuine spiritual growth. This culture of accomplishment can lead to the elevation of people with serious character flaws, propagating an alpha male, CEO-like mentality for pastoral ministry. Zachary Wagner asserts that the fruit of such churches often focuses on external metrics rather than on spiritual outcomes and long-term growth potential. Wagner argues that addressing toxic masculinity within these environments is essential for creating a more welcoming and supportive space for all congregants. By reevaluating their approaches to leadership and power dynamics, megachurches can foster a better culture within their communities, reducing the detrimental impact of toxic masculinity.

When abusers are given a pass and often the pass is associated with their maleness in that this is the vision of maleness.

"The fact that a certain form of unhealthy masculine sexuality has found a foothold in these communities of faith is really, really not okay. And women seem to be talking about this plenty, but not enough men are engaging in the conversation." - Zachary Wagner

"Until men engage in the conversation, I fear this is just going to keep happening. We'll just be playing catch up and clean up to whatever the next scandal that reveals itself is and not really addressing the problem at its root." - Zachary Wagner

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:01 - Introduction,

00:02:37 - Inspiration for Writing the Book,

00:12:29 - Wake Up, Guys,

00:16:30 - Dangerous Male Body-Centric Theology,

00:18:29 - Criticisms of Sexual Imagery in Christianity,

00:21:49 - Minimizing Abuse Hurts Everyone,

00:28:19 - Toxic Masculinity in Megachurches,

00:29:50 - Harmful Effects of Toxic Masculinity,

00:37:05 - Dehumanization of Women,

00:45:41 - Pornography and its Effects,

00:50:06 - Toxic Masculinity is not Exclusive to Christianity,

00:54:10 - Importance of Taking Care of Yourself,

00:54:49 - Thanks to the Community,

00:55:06 - Upcoming Guest,

00:56:16 - Different Translation of the New Testament,

00:56:52 - Catching Up with Dr. Scott McKnight,

Zachary Wagner, a writer, researcher, and ordained minister, is here to share his thoughts on centering women's voices in conversations around toxic masculinity. Originally from Chicagoland, he now resides in Oxford, England, where he is pursuing a PhD in New Testament Studies. Zachary serves as the editorial director for the Center for Pastor Theologians and co-hosts the CPT podcast. His research interests include ancient economics, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism, early Christianity, and New Testament masculinities. A passionate advocate against church-based abuse, Zachary recently authored Nontoxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality.

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:01 - Introduction,

Lori Adams-Brown introduces Zachary Wagner, the writer, researcher, and ordained minister who has written a book titled Nontoxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality. The episode is centered around the topic of toxic masculinity and its impact in the evangelical church.

00:02:37 - Inspiration for Writing the Book,

Zachary Wagner talks about his inspiration for writing the book. He shares how his personal experiences growing up in the white American evangelical subculture that promoted purity culture, and his own struggles with pornography and shame, as well as his wife's experience with church-based sexual abuse, motivated him to address the problem of toxic masculinity in the church.

00:12:29 - Wake Up, Guys,

Zachary Wagner discusses the church's long-standing problem with sexual abuse and misconduct against women and children. He emphasizes the need for men to take responsibility and join the conversation to address the problem of toxic masculinity in the church, which often stems from a sub-Christian and dehumanizing vision of what it means to be a man.

00:16:30 - Dangerous Male Body-Centric Theology,

Zachary Wagner comments on the recent controversy surrounding an article that compared the gospel to sexual assault and marital rape. He clarifies that the text it was based on, Ephesians Five, is very careful in what it does and does not say about the relationship between Christ and the Church and the relationship between husband and wife. He warns against a dangerous male body-centric theology and the need for a more holistic and

00:18:29 - Criticisms of Sexual Imagery in Christianity,

Zachary Wagner discusses the use of sexual imagery in Christianity and highlights the potential theological criticisms. He emphasizes that in the current cultural climate, it is unwise to use such imagery. Wagner also draws comparisons to pagan sex cults and Greco-Roman values regarding masculinity.

00:21:49 - Minimizing Abuse Hurts Everyone,

Wagner reflects on the harms of minimizing abuse, particularly in the context of male-centered theology and toxic masculinity. He stresses the importance of men speaking up when they see women being harmed or rhetoric that perpetuates harmful ideologies. Wagner argues that when abusers are not held accountable, both the victim and the abuser suffer.

00:28:19 - Toxic Masculinity in Megachurches,

The conversation turns to the prevalence of toxic masculinity in megachurches and evangelicalism in America. Wagner argues that many have wedded themselves to cultural pragmatist ideals about results and numbers, leading to a certain type of masculine, macho, alpha-male CEO vision for pastoral ministry. He notes that this has led to elevating leaders with serious character deficiencies and neglecting the spiritual outcomes for congregants.

00:29:50 - Harmful Effects of Toxic Masculinity,

The discussion centers on the harmful effects of toxic masculinity, particularly in evangelicalism in America. Wagner notes that the focus on toxic masculinity has led to abuse in many instances, both for men and women. He argues that it is critical to shift the focus towards a kind

00:37:05 - Dehumanization of Women,

Toxic masculinity leads to dehumanization of women, objectification of female bodies, and a harmful culture of male sexualization. The book, Every Man's Battle, popularized the idea that men have a hyper-sexualized lens through which they view the world, leading to the objectification of women. As a result, women are often questioned, not believed, and placed on trial when men's sexuality goes awry. Pornography use reinforces these negative attitudes towards women and trains men's sexual response cycles, even years after they stop watching it.

00:45:41 - Pornography and its Effects,

Pornography is one of the most powerful cultural forces in shaping men's toxic attitudes and behaviors towards their sexuality. Many Christian communities stigmatize and pathologize pornography, leading to cycles of lying and deception by men who use it. Even men who no longer watch pornography may still be shaped by it and have their brains and bodies interact with women in toxic ways. The book encourages all men to think deeply about how pornography has shaped their sexuality and to find a more healthy and mature expression of it.

00:50:06 - Toxic Masculinity is not Exclusive to Christianity,

Toxic masculinity is not a concept exclusive to Christianity, but something that affects all people, regardless of faith. Women are often excluded from spaces where men coalesce unhealthy perspectives and approaches to certain issues and problems. This hyper-sexualized vision of male minds and attitude of fear directed towards female bodies creates a system where women are not heard or believed. The book encourages men

00:54:10 - Importance of Taking Care of Yourself,

Taking care of yourself is not only beneficial for your own well-being, but it also sets an example for others to follow. It's important to make time for self-care, such as eating, drinking, resting, and taking breaks from daily routines.

00:54:49 - Thanks to the Community,

The host expresses gratitude towards the community and acknowledges the difference it has made in her life. She encourages everyone to continue making a difference in their own way.

00:55:06 - Upcoming Guest,

Dr. Scott McKnight will be the next guest on the podcast. He will be discussing his upcoming book, the Second Testament, which includes a unique translation of the New Testament. He also talks about spiritual abuse and advocacy for survivors.

00:56:16 - Different Translation of the New Testament,

The Second Testament provides a different translation of the New Testament, which may challenge readers' preconceived notions of familiar Bible characters. Dr. Scott McKnight will explain some of the changes he made and discuss the concept of dynamic equivalence in translation.

00:56:52 - Catching Up with Dr. Scott McKnight,

The conversation with Dr. Scott McKnight will also touch on his advocacy for survivors of spiritual abuse. He will share his insights and what he has learned since writing his book, A Church Called Tove.

  • Purchase Nontoxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality by Zachary Wagner.
  • Check out the Center for Pastor Theologians and listen to their podcast.
  • Follow Zachary Wagner on social media for more updates and insights.
  • Read more about the Church Two movement and the MeToo movement to stay informed and educated.
  • Consider seeking therapy or counseling if you have experienced trauma or shame related to sexuality.
  • Speak out against toxic masculinity and actively work to promote healthy and respectful attitudes towards all genders.
  • Support organizations and initiatives that work towards ending sexual violence and abuse, both in and outside of religious spaces.

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Join host Lori Adams-Brown on A World of Difference as she sits down with Dr. Lynn Cohick, a New Testament professor and author of "A Second Edition Dictionary of Paul in His Letters." Lori discusses Dr. Cohick's journey as a professor, her love for scriptures, and her contribution to including more women's voices in the conversation around Paul and Paul's letters. Cohick shares about her writing and scholarship and how she has dug deep into understanding and representing what women were doing in the ancient church. They also discuss how women played a large role in the formation of Christian theology and liturgy. The discussion moves to the challenges women face in male-dominated industries such as biblical studies, theology, and academia and how they have to work twice as hard as men to be perceived at the same level. Cohick encourages women to take risks and not be afraid to fail. They then discuss the importance of acknowledging gender stereotypes and biases and the need to break free from them. The podcast ends with a sneak peek of a Patreon-exclusive interview where Cohick shares about her experience in times of suffering. Don't miss this thought-provoking episode of A World of Difference with host Lori Adams-Brown and guest Dr. Lynn Cohick.

https://lynncohick.com/

Lynn H. Cohick (Ph.D., University of Pennsylvania) is a Professor of NT. She served as Provost at both Northern Seminary and Denver Seminary. She taught NT for over 15 years at Wheaton College. Her books include The Letter to the Ephesians in the NICNT; Christian Women in the Patristic World: Their Influence, Authority, and Legacy in the Second through the Fifth Centuries (co-authored with Amy Brown Hughes; Philippians in the Story of God Commentary; Ephesians in New Covenant Commentary; Women in the World of the Earliest Christians.

[00:00:02] Introduction of Dr. Lynn Cohick's new book

[00:03:53] Women's History in Early Christianity

[00:07:56] Women's Role in Church History

[00:12:22] Independent Women in Ancient World

[00:16:38] Interpretation in Diverse Communities

[00:21:28] Challenges faced by women in male-dominated spaces

[00:26:11] Overcoming Patriarchal Norms in Women's Careers

[00:30:09] Challenging Gender Biases in Education and Careers

[00:34:06] Challenging Paul's Views on Women in Scriptures

[00:38:26] Interpretation of 1 Timothy 2

[00:42:39] Biblical verse on women's salvation and cultural context

[00:46:18] Farewell to Dr. Cohick and acknowledgement of difficult situation

[00:49:43] Exclusive Interview with Dr. Cohick on Spiritual Practices

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Climate Crisis & Christian Discipleship with Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Join us as we explore one man's journey from skeptic to environmental advocate through the lens of his faith. But just as he begins to offer solutions, a looming threat interrupts, leaving him and the audience with a question: will the church wake up and stand up to protect God's creation?

My special guest is Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Introducing Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, a devoted advocate for Christian climate action and environmental care.

Rev. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap (MY-yurd SKOP) serves as the Vice President of the Evangelical Environmental Network. For the last ten years, he has educated and mobilized Christians around the world to address the climate crisis as an act of discipleship and neighbor-love.

Kyle has been named to Midwest Energy Group's 40 Under 40, the American Conservation Coalition’s 30 Under 30, and the Grist 50 Fixers cohorts for his work on climate change education and advocacy. In 2020, he was named a Yale Public Voices on the Climate Crisis Fellow. His work has been featured in national and international news outlets such as PBS, NPR, CNN, NBC News, New York Times, Reuters, and U.S. News and World Report. His book, Following Jesus in a Warming World: A Christian Call to Climate Action, was released by InterVarsity Press in February 2023.

Kyle is married to Allison and lives in Grand Rapids, Michigan with their two sons.

Visit his website at kylemeyaardschaap.com.

Follow him on Twitter: @kmeyaardschaap.

Caring for creation is a fundamental part of every human being's vocation because that's how God made us. - Kyle MeyaardSchaap

In this episode, you will be able to:

Grasp Christian obligations towards environmental stewardship and climate action.

Find out the significance of incorporating native plants in the battle against climate change.

Expose the hidden causes driving climate change skepticism in political and religious spheres.

Discover the potential of generational dialogue in forging Christian action against climate change.

Engage in a hopeful pursuit of creative solutions and resolute action for a sustainable future.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

Read Kyle's book, Following Jesus in a Warming World: A Christian Call to Climate Action.

Find unique ways to care for creation and protect the environment, based on your own vocation and interests.

Implement practices that bring joy and enhance your experience of creation.

Participate in events and initiatives that promote environmental care and protection, such as Indie Creation Fest.

Support organizations like the Evangelical Environmental Network that are working towards climate change education

and advocacy.

Make sustainable choices in your daily life, such as using reusable bags and water bottles, reducing meat consumption,

and conserving energy.

Advocate for policies and actions that prioritize the environment and address climate change.

Worship as Awe and Wonder

Worship can be far more than a formalized gathering or ritual. It can be experienced as a profound sense of awe and wonder in

everyday life, especially when we open our hearts and minds to the beauty and intricate connections of the natural world.

Immersing ourselves in creation and marveling at the marvels of our planet gives us an even greater appreciation for the

Creator of all things. In the interview, Kyle Meyaard-Schaap shares his experiences of finding awe in God's creation. He talks

about attending the Indie Creation Fest, an event that celebrates God's creation and promotes efforts to protect it. Through

embracing beauty in nature, Kyle highlights the importance of cultivating a worshipful approach towards environment and

reveals how his faith has been enriched by his journey into creation care.

The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation

The youth of today have a unique and valuable perspective on environmental issues, and their voices must be heard. As the

generation that will inherit the consequences of climate change, they are more keenly aware of its dangers and are passionately

advocating for collective action. By acknowledging their concerns and supporting their efforts, society encourages a more

inclusive and effective response to environmental challenges. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap emphasizes the need to listen to and learn

from the younger generation. He discusses how young Christians are beginning to question the narratives they were raised on

and are challenging the status quo in their communities. By offering support and encouragement to the next generation, we join

forces in ensuring a brighter and healthier future for all.

This is a beautiful, exhilarating invitation to become more human and to participate in God's joy. - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

I don't know how to love God and to love my neighbor without doing something about forces that are destroying God's good

creation. - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Climate Change as a Moral Issue

As global citizens, we must recognize that addressing climate change and participating in creation care is vital. This

responsibility becomes even more significant for those who identify as Christian, as it speaks to the core principles of loving God

and loving our neighbors. Climate change is a moral issue that needs to be acknowledged and faced head-on, as it deeply

impacts not only the environment but also the life and well-being of countless communities around the world. By dedicating

ourselves to the cause, we can positively contribute to a better future. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, in his conversation with Lori

Adams-Brown, underscores the connection between faith and creation care. Growing up in a conservative Christian community,

Kyle had not initially understood this connection. It was only through his brother's studies - and exploring the relationship

between ecology, biology, and scripture himself - that Kyle realized the importance of engaging with environmental stewardship

as a Christian. He encourages fellow believers to examine the issue through the lens of their faith and calls on them to actively

participate in creation care.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

00:03:09 - Celebrating Earth Day,

00:08:41 - Climate Change as a Moral Issue,

00:12:54 - Finding Your Earth-Keeping Vocation,

00:16:01 - Conclusion,

00:16:32 - Worship as Awe and Wonder,

00:18:15 - Surprising Ways to Steward the Planet,

00:22:56 - Skepticism Around Climate Change,

00:29:06 - Muddy Public Conversation Around Climate Change,

00:31:31 - Recovering God's Story,

00:33:43 - The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation,

00:35:20 - Recognizing the Need for Change in the Church,

00:37:23 - Finding Hope and Inspiration in Community,

00:38:30 - Casting a Vision for an Inspiring Future,

00:38:58 - The Epilogue,

If you're feeling frustrated and helpless because your efforts to protect the environment through actions like recycling or using

eco-friendly products aren't making a significant impact, then you are not alone!

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

Lori Adams-Brown introduces Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, the vice president of the Evangelical Environmental Network. They talk

about his book, Following Jesus in a Warming World, and his work on climate change education and advocacy.

00:03:09 - Celebrating Earth Day,

Kyle talks about Indie Creation Fest, an event he helped plan and host in Indianapolis. The festival brings together people to

celebrate God's creation, learn from each other, and get involved in activities that help protect the environment.

00:08:41 - Climate Change as a Moral Issue,

Kyle explains that climate change is a moral issue that Christians should care about. He believes that following Jesus means

loving God and loving our neighbor, and taking care of the environment is part of that calling.

00:12:54 - Finding Your Earth-Keeping Vocation,

Kyle believes that everyone has a unique calling to care for the environment, and that it's important to find practices that bring

you joy. He suggests reframing the conversation around environmental care from one of guilt and obligation to one of joy and

participation in God's joy.

00:16:01 - Conclusion,

Lori and Kyle wrap up the conversation by reminding listeners that caring for the environment is a beautiful and exhilarating

invitation to become more human and to participate in God's joy. They encourage people to find their own unique ways to

connect with the environment and care for it.

00:16:32 - Worship as Awe and Wonder,

Worship as awe and wonder, and taking care of the planet through native landscaping, scouting, and activism.

00:18:15 - Surprising Ways to Steward the Planet,

Kyle talks about the importance of using native plants for landscaping to help mitigate climate impacts, and how to bring your

land into better harmony with the natural ecosystem around you.

00:22:56 - Skepticism Around Climate Change,

Kyle addresses skepticism around climate change in the US, and the reasons why it exists. He discusses the political,

theological, and societal stories that have shaped American attitudes towards climate change.

00:29:06 - Muddy Public Conversation Around Climate Change,

Kyle talks about the concerted effort by fossil fuel corporations to muddy the public conversation around climate change, and the

false narratives and misleading information that have been spread about the issue.

00:31:31 - Recovering God's Story,

Kyle discusses the importance of recovering God's story in relation to climate change, and how the greatest commandment to

love God and love our neighbor is directly related to our responsibility to care for the planet.

00:33:43 - The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation,

Kyle highlights the significance of listening to the younger generation and explains how they can help in shaping a better future.

He hopes that readers who recognize the harmful stories they were told about climate change and the environment will

understand that they are not alone in their passion for change.

00:35:20 - Recognizing the Need for Change in the Church,

Kyle emphasizes the importance of recognizing how the church has been compromised by incomplete and harmful stories

around creation and climate change. He encourages young Christians who have recognized this and still love the church to call

out the problematic stories and try to bring about change.

00:37:23 - Finding Hope and Inspiration in Community,

Kyle believes that the work of Christian climate action has to happen in community and encourages readers to find their people

and do this work together. He acknowledges that it can be hard to hold hope, and having a community to hold hope for each

other is crucial.

00:38:30 - Casting a Vision for an Inspiring Future,

Kyle talks about the importance of casting a vision for an inspiring future that can be created by taking action together. He

encourages readers to exercise their imagination and imagine the kind of world they want to create by taking action on climate

change.

00:38:58 - The Epilogue,

In the epilogue, Kyle writes a letter to his imagined granddaughter in 2066, casting a vision for a better, safer, and more

prosperous world.

Calling all Christians who want to take action for our planet and its future! Have you heard the myths that suggest that taking

care of our environment is not a Christian responsibility? That climate change is not real? Or that our actions won't make a

difference? It's time to debunk these myths and embrace the truth. Join us as Kyle Meyaard-Schaap shares the facts and

inspires us to take action towards creation care and climate justice.

For those who are different and want to make a difference

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Climate Crisis & Christian Discipleship with Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Join us as we explore one man's journey from skeptic to environmental advocate through the lens of his faith. But just as he begins to offer solutions, a looming threat interrupts, leaving him and the audience with a question: will the church wake up and stand up to protect God's creation?

My special guest is Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Introducing Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, a devoted advocate for Christian climate action and environmental care.

Rev. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap (MY-yurd SKOP) serves as the Vice President of the Evangelical Environmental Network. For the last ten years, he has educated and mobilized Christians around the world to address the climate crisis as an act of discipleship and neighbor-love.

Kyle has been named to Midwest Energy Group's 40 Under 40, the American Conservation Coalition’s 30 Under 30, and the Grist 50 Fixers cohorts for his work on climate change education and advocacy. In 2020, he was named a Yale Public Voices on the Climate Crisis Fellow. His work has been featured in national and international news outlets such as PBS, NPR, CNN, NBC News, New York Times, Reuters, and U.S. News and World Report. His book, Following Jesus in a Warming World: A Christian Call to Climate Action, was released by InterVarsity Press in February 2023.

Kyle is married to Allison and lives in Grand Rapids, Michigan with their two sons.

Visit his website at kylemeyaardschaap.com.

Follow him on Twitter: @kmeyaardschaap.

Caring for creation is a fundamental part of every human being's vocation because that's how God made us. - Kyle MeyaardSchaap

In this episode, you will be able to:

Grasp Christian obligations towards environmental stewardship and climate action.

Find out the significance of incorporating native plants in the battle against climate change.

Expose the hidden causes driving climate change skepticism in political and religious spheres.

Discover the potential of generational dialogue in forging Christian action against climate change.

Engage in a hopeful pursuit of creative solutions and resolute action for a sustainable future.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

Read Kyle's book, Following Jesus in a Warming World: A Christian Call to Climate Action.

Find unique ways to care for creation and protect the environment, based on your own vocation and interests.

Implement practices that bring joy and enhance your experience of creation.

Participate in events and initiatives that promote environmental care and protection, such as Indie Creation Fest.

Support organizations like the Evangelical Environmental Network that are working towards climate change education

and advocacy.

Make sustainable choices in your daily life, such as using reusable bags and water bottles, reducing meat consumption,

and conserving energy.

Advocate for policies and actions that prioritize the environment and address climate change.

Worship as Awe and Wonder

Worship can be far more than a formalized gathering or ritual. It can be experienced as a profound sense of awe and wonder in

everyday life, especially when we open our hearts and minds to the beauty and intricate connections of the natural world.

Immersing ourselves in creation and marveling at the marvels of our planet gives us an even greater appreciation for the

Creator of all things. In the interview, Kyle Meyaard-Schaap shares his experiences of finding awe in God's creation. He talks

about attending the Indie Creation Fest, an event that celebrates God's creation and promotes efforts to protect it. Through

embracing beauty in nature, Kyle highlights the importance of cultivating a worshipful approach towards environment and

reveals how his faith has been enriched by his journey into creation care.

The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation

The youth of today have a unique and valuable perspective on environmental issues, and their voices must be heard. As the

generation that will inherit the consequences of climate change, they are more keenly aware of its dangers and are passionately

advocating for collective action. By acknowledging their concerns and supporting their efforts, society encourages a more

inclusive and effective response to environmental challenges. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap emphasizes the need to listen to and learn

from the younger generation. He discusses how young Christians are beginning to question the narratives they were raised on

and are challenging the status quo in their communities. By offering support and encouragement to the next generation, we join

forces in ensuring a brighter and healthier future for all.

This is a beautiful, exhilarating invitation to become more human and to participate in God's joy. - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

I don't know how to love God and to love my neighbor without doing something about forces that are destroying God's good

creation. - Kyle Meyaard-Schaap

Climate Change as a Moral Issue

As global citizens, we must recognize that addressing climate change and participating in creation care is vital. This

responsibility becomes even more significant for those who identify as Christian, as it speaks to the core principles of loving God

and loving our neighbors. Climate change is a moral issue that needs to be acknowledged and faced head-on, as it deeply

impacts not only the environment but also the life and well-being of countless communities around the world. By dedicating

ourselves to the cause, we can positively contribute to a better future. Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, in his conversation with Lori

Adams-Brown, underscores the connection between faith and creation care. Growing up in a conservative Christian community,

Kyle had not initially understood this connection. It was only through his brother's studies - and exploring the relationship

between ecology, biology, and scripture himself - that Kyle realized the importance of engaging with environmental stewardship

as a Christian. He encourages fellow believers to examine the issue through the lens of their faith and calls on them to actively

participate in creation care.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

00:03:09 - Celebrating Earth Day,

00:08:41 - Climate Change as a Moral Issue,

00:12:54 - Finding Your Earth-Keeping Vocation,

00:16:01 - Conclusion,

00:16:32 - Worship as Awe and Wonder,

00:18:15 - Surprising Ways to Steward the Planet,

00:22:56 - Skepticism Around Climate Change,

00:29:06 - Muddy Public Conversation Around Climate Change,

00:31:31 - Recovering God's Story,

00:33:43 - The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation,

00:35:20 - Recognizing the Need for Change in the Church,

00:37:23 - Finding Hope and Inspiration in Community,

00:38:30 - Casting a Vision for an Inspiring Future,

00:38:58 - The Epilogue,

If you're feeling frustrated and helpless because your efforts to protect the environment through actions like recycling or using

eco-friendly products aren't making a significant impact, then you are not alone!

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:00 - Introduction,

Lori Adams-Brown introduces Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, the vice president of the Evangelical Environmental Network. They talk

about his book, Following Jesus in a Warming World, and his work on climate change education and advocacy.

00:03:09 - Celebrating Earth Day,

Kyle talks about Indie Creation Fest, an event he helped plan and host in Indianapolis. The festival brings together people to

celebrate God's creation, learn from each other, and get involved in activities that help protect the environment.

00:08:41 - Climate Change as a Moral Issue,

Kyle explains that climate change is a moral issue that Christians should care about. He believes that following Jesus means

loving God and loving our neighbor, and taking care of the environment is part of that calling.

00:12:54 - Finding Your Earth-Keeping Vocation,

Kyle believes that everyone has a unique calling to care for the environment, and that it's important to find practices that bring

you joy. He suggests reframing the conversation around environmental care from one of guilt and obligation to one of joy and

participation in God's joy.

00:16:01 - Conclusion,

Lori and Kyle wrap up the conversation by reminding listeners that caring for the environment is a beautiful and exhilarating

invitation to become more human and to participate in God's joy. They encourage people to find their own unique ways to

connect with the environment and care for it.

00:16:32 - Worship as Awe and Wonder,

Worship as awe and wonder, and taking care of the planet through native landscaping, scouting, and activism.

00:18:15 - Surprising Ways to Steward the Planet,

Kyle talks about the importance of using native plants for landscaping to help mitigate climate impacts, and how to bring your

land into better harmony with the natural ecosystem around you.

00:22:56 - Skepticism Around Climate Change,

Kyle addresses skepticism around climate change in the US, and the reasons why it exists. He discusses the political,

theological, and societal stories that have shaped American attitudes towards climate change.

00:29:06 - Muddy Public Conversation Around Climate Change,

Kyle talks about the concerted effort by fossil fuel corporations to muddy the public conversation around climate change, and the

false narratives and misleading information that have been spread about the issue.

00:31:31 - Recovering God's Story,

Kyle discusses the importance of recovering God's story in relation to climate change, and how the greatest commandment to

love God and love our neighbor is directly related to our responsibility to care for the planet.

00:33:43 - The Importance of Listening to the Younger Generation,

Kyle highlights the significance of listening to the younger generation and explains how they can help in shaping a better future.

He hopes that readers who recognize the harmful stories they were told about climate change and the environment will

understand that they are not alone in their passion for change.

00:35:20 - Recognizing the Need for Change in the Church,

Kyle emphasizes the importance of recognizing how the church has been compromised by incomplete and harmful stories

around creation and climate change. He encourages young Christians who have recognized this and still love the church to call

out the problematic stories and try to bring about change.

00:37:23 - Finding Hope and Inspiration in Community,

Kyle believes that the work of Christian climate action has to happen in community and encourages readers to find their people

and do this work together. He acknowledges that it can be hard to hold hope, and having a community to hold hope for each

other is crucial.

00:38:30 - Casting a Vision for an Inspiring Future,

Kyle talks about the importance of casting a vision for an inspiring future that can be created by taking action together. He

encourages readers to exercise their imagination and imagine the kind of world they want to create by taking action on climate

change.

00:38:58 - The Epilogue,

In the epilogue, Kyle writes a letter to his imagined granddaughter in 2066, casting a vision for a better, safer, and more

prosperous world.

Calling all Christians who want to take action for our planet and its future! Have you heard the myths that suggest that taking

care of our environment is not a Christian responsibility? That climate change is not real? Or that our actions won't make a

difference? It's time to debunk these myths and embrace the truth. Join us as Kyle Meyaard-Schaap shares the facts and

inspires us to take action towards creation care and climate justice.

For those who are different and want to make a difference

Become a patron of this podcast, and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at Patreon.


The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with Missio Alliance.

Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our Facebook group. We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective.

Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram A World of Difference on Facebook, Linktree,on Twitter at @loriadbr or loriadamsbrown.comLoved this episode? Leave us a review and rating. Click here to review

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Sheila Wray Gregoire on She Deserves Better: Redefining Women's Worth

Get ready to delve into the fascinating world of sex, marriage, and the impact of messaging on girls' lives in this episode of A World of Difference. Host Lori Adams-Brown is joined by Sheila Wray Gregoire, an acclaimed Canadian author, speaker, and the brains behind Bare Marriage. Sheila's new book, She Deserves Better, is the talk of the town, an insightful read based on extensive research on the messages girls are exposed to and how they shape their lives. But what makes Sheila stand out is her no-nonsense, hilarious take on sex and marriage, always aligning her conversations with biblical principles. Tune in as she chats with Lori about her latest work, her passion for her craft, and ways to live a fulfilling life. If you're looking for a fun yet incredibly insightful listen, then this episode is for you.

Long Summary

Get ready to discover a new world of difference with Lori Adams-Brown, host of the A World of Difference Podcast! This episode features award-winning author, sought-after speaker, and the face behind the website Bare Marriage, Sheila Wray Gregoire. With her newest book, She Deserves Better, Sheila and her team have been conducting extensive research on how messages given to girls have affected their lives, particularly in school. If you're eager to learn about research conclusions and insights that can help you move forward in life in a healthier way, then this episode is perfect for you.

Sheila's passion for changing evangelical conversations about sex and marriage to align with biblical principles is contagious, and her insights are guaranteed to change the way you think about these topics. If you've ever wondered how female students are impacted by what they read in school, you absolutely cannot miss this episode! Join Lori and Sheila as they dive into an informative and engaging conversation about how faith, sexuality, and education intersect. This podcast episode promises to be compelling, thought-provoking, and galvanizing. You won't want to miss out on this one! Tune in now to A World of Difference Podcast, and discover the world of difference for yourself!

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[00:00:02] Sheila Ray Gregoire on "She Deserves Better

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[00:00:41] She and her team, including her daughter, have been doing more research around what it's messages have been given to girls in particular and what those messages have meant for them and in terms of how their lives have panned out in different areas and specific wording was chosen based on particular books that they may have read or been taught from those books and just very, very detailed research and it's very insightful, the research conclusions as well as what she was able to write in this book in terms of tools on how to move forward in a healthier way together

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1: Why Sheila Wray Gregoire's Latest Book 'She Deserves Better' is a Must-Read for Every Girl

In the latest episode of A World of Different's Podcast, host Lori Adams-Brown had the pleasure of interviewing Sheila Wray Gregoire, an award-winning author and speaker who is passionate about changing the evangelical conversations about sex and marriage. Sheila, along with her team, including her daughter, has been doing extensive research for her latest book, 'She Deserves Better,' and has come up with some fascinating insights into the messages that girls have been given over the years.

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  1. Be your own hero – Sheila's research shows that many young girls tend to rely on external validation to feel good about themselves. In her book, she stresses the importance of being your own hero and learning to love yourself for who you are.

  2. Speak up – Girls are often taught to keep quiet and not make a fuss, but Sheila's research shows that speaking up is crucial in today's world. Whether it's about your career, your relationships or your own well-being, it's important to let your voice be heard.

  3. Embrace vulnerability – Vulnerability is often seen as a weakness, but Sheila's research shows that it can be a strength. By being vulnerable and open, girls can connect with others on a deeper level and build stronger, more meaningful relationships.

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In a previous episode of A World of Different's Podcast, Sheila Wray Gregoire talked about her book 'The Great Sex Rescue,' which was a groundbreaking study of the evangelical messages about sex that are taught to young couples. In her latest book, 'She Deserves Better,' Sheila continues to challenge the status quo and provide readers with tools to empower themselves.

According to Sheila, "the messages that are being taught in the evangelical community around sex and marriage are often damaging and can lead to some serious problems down the road." Her research shows that couples who have been taught these messages are more likely to struggle with intimacy and communication in their relationships.

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Embracing Neurodiversity and Celebrating Differences on Earth Day

Get ready for an eye-opening and inspiring episode of A World of Difference, hosted by the amazing Lori Adams-Brown. To celebrate Earth Day, Lori invites her guest, the brilliant Katherine McCord, to discuss the importance of neurodiversity and inclusion in everyday life and the workplace. In this episode, the duo share their personal experiences with neurodiversity and the role it plays in understanding and accepting others, including those on the autism spectrum.

They have a fascinating discussion that will leave you wanting more. Did you know that teams with neurodiverse individuals can be up to 33% more productive? Or that neurodiversities like autism have played a positive role in human evolution? You will learn how to create a more inclusive environment for those who identify as neurodiverse and how to respond with curiosity instead of ego when someone requests something different.

Katherine shares her personal journey and how she lives by the motto "different is not a deficit." Her passion for inclusion and diversity has led her to own a company that provides consulting and HR services. You don't want to miss out on the inspiring conversation and the opportunity to gain a new perspective on neurodiversity. So, let's celebrate Earth Day and embrace our differences with A World of Difference.

In this episode, host Lori Adams-Brown has an eye-opening conversation with Katherine McCord, an HR tech and inclusive innovation expert who encourages embracing differences as a valuable asset, not a deficit. Katherine shares personal experiences with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and bipolar disorder, emphasizing that different brain processes should be celebrated and supported, especially in the workplace. Lori links the episode with Earth Day and highlights the importance of topics related to differences and listening with a positive attitude.

The podcast delves deep into the concept of neurodiversity, highlighting its crucial role in diverse teams' productivity. The speaker notes that diagnoses like autism and neurodiversities like OCD and bipolar disorder should not be seen as a disability but rather a superpower, explaining how they affect their lives positively.

The episode provides valuable information on how to accommodate different behavioral needs and achieve effective communication with neurodiverse individuals. The speaker emphasizes the importance of breaking down ego defenses and curiously responding to differences rather than requiring people to mask or behave unnaturally. The podcast aims to promote inclusivity and understanding towards neurodiverse individuals, highlighting the importance of careful language use around mental health diagnoses.

Overall, this podcast highlights the benefits of neurodiversity not only in the workplace but also in everyday life, and offers insights into how we can all become more accepting and supportive of those who are neurodiverse. Don't miss out on this episode that inspires us to celebrate everyone's differences!

Timestamps

[00:00:02] Neurodiversity and Inclusion in Work and Life

[00:03:52] Personal Earth Day Celebration and Neurodiversity Awareness

[00:07:04] Autism Awareness and Neurodiversity

[00:10:44] Improving Workplace Inclusion through Breaking Down Masking

Episode Links

https://www.kmccordspeaking.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-mccord-093bb343/

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Katherine lives by the motto that different is not a deficit

[00:00:58] Different is not a deficit. Those teams were 33 percent more productive than their counterpart teams

[00:08:43] Autism is not inherently a disability. In fact, it can be something of a superpower

[00:07:53] Just because you're different does not mean that you're less than, and there are actually a lot of positive aspects that come with neurodiversity

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[00:09:26] It's just a matter of learning to balance

[00:07:30] Those teams were 33 percent more productive than their counterpart teams

[00:00:58] Different is not a deficit

[00:05:39] Well, another thing we're really in this month and we, our family has really become aware many, many years ago because I have 1 of my favorite family members is on the autism spectrum, is autistic, and that sent me years ago on a journey of understanding more about what it's like to be a human being on the autism spectrum, and it's not only helped me be a better human being to just understand and accept and embrace this, but also it's allowed me into the lives of many people who are neurodiverse

[Unknown] Catherine lives by the motto that different is not a deficit

[00:01:31] She's gonna talk about her own experience and how we can support people with bipolar

[00:01:41] She's gonna talk about all the parts of him that she loves and why often we have these biases and stereotypes and boxes that we put people in that aren't always helpful

[Unknown] One of the most detrimental things that I've found over the years that people can require is masking

[00:08:43] Autism is not inherently a disability. In fact, it can be something of a superpower

[00:02:11] Here at the year over the difference podcast, we are all about understanding our differences, becoming aware of them, accepting them, and also knowing how to live together in ways that help each other flourish in this world

[00:09:59] I personally try really hard to be inclusive, but I think part of that process means sitting and deeply listening to people who have all these differences

[00:03:44] I always go over to the beach. I do live in South Florida. I go over to the beach and I just sit, and it's very early in the morning. I like to watch the sun come up. I usually see some shooting stars when I do this, and I just sit and breathe and then I take my dog over to 1 of the nature preserves and we just hang out with the trees and the plants and listen to all the sounds and have a grand old time together. That's how I celebrate

[00:05:10] My 1 who's not college was I think 3 or 4 when we started a tradition of planning a tree on earth day, and then when we moved to Singapore, you weren't allowed to do that, which we thought was strange, but because they they they're the garden city, and they plant all their own they they do a great job on their own, and it's kinda like, we don't want you just planning anywhere

[00:07:53] Just because you're different does not mean that you're less than, and there are actually a lot of positive aspects that come with neurodiversity

[00:04:40] It's tough, and, you know, it's it's although it's normal and part of life, it's still really, really hard. Deal with that kind of grief, and she was a part of our family, and that unconditional love that dogs can bring you when you walk through all of life's traumas, we were with her way more during co than we had been before with kids in online school for a year and a half

Katherine McCord: These things are ways that people make themselves more comfortable and it actually helps them focus and become more productive, including not looking at you

Here are three tips from McCord’s conversation with Adams-Brown:

  1. Define neurodiversity – According to McCord, neurodiversity refers to the different ways that people’s brains work. This means that differences in the way people think and process information should be embraced rather than labeled as deficits.

  2. Practice inclusion – Inclusion is key to creating a workplace and society that values neurodiversity. By creating an environment where everyone feels valued and supported, we can foster creativity and innovation.

  3. Support those with bipolar disorder – McCord shared how important it is for those living with bipolar disorder to have a support system. This can include therapy, medication, and understanding from loved ones. By supporting those living with bipolar disorder, we can reduce the stigma surrounding mental health conditions.

McCord’s message is a reminder that differences should be celebrated and that inclusivity is crucial. If you want to learn more about neurodiversity and McCord’s journey, listen to the full episode of The World of Difference podcast.

Quote: “Different is not a deficit.” – Katherine McCord

Article 2: Autism Acceptance and Understanding Others

Lori Adams-Brown’s A World of Difference podcast recently featured Katherine McCord, an HR tech expert and advocate for neurodiversity. The conversation centered around autism awareness and acceptance month, and the importance of understanding and accepting those who are different.

Here are three tips from McCord’s conversation with Adams-Brown:

  1. Embrace autism acceptance – Autism acceptance is a preferred term over autism awareness because it focuses on accepting and understanding those who are on the autism spectrum rather than simply being aware of their existence.

  2. Avoid stereotypes and biases – McCord shared how we often put people in boxes with labels that aren’t helpful. By avoiding stereotypes and biases, we can better understand and appreciate those who are different from us.

  3. Understand the positive aspects of neurodiversity – Neurodiversity can contribute to creativity and innovation. By embracing the positive aspects of neurodiversity, we can create a more inclusive and productive society.

McCord’s message is a reminder that understanding and accepting those who are different from us is key to creating a more connected and compassionate world. If you want to learn more about autism acceptance and McCord’s personal experiences, listen to the full episode of The World of Difference podcast.

Quote: “We have these biases and stereotypes and boxes that we put people in that aren’t always helpful.” – Katherine McCord

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In this episode of A World of Difference, host Lori Adams-Brown discusses the importance of embracing discomfort and living outside of your comfort zone. As she notes, "The more we push ourselves, the more we grow and evolve as individuals."

Breaking Barriers: Stepping Out of Comfort Zones

Looking to become a better global citizen, leader or simply step outside your comfort zone? Then, don't miss A World of Difference podcast hosted by cross cultural expert, Lori Adams-Brown. This episode is all about stepping outside your comfort zone, which can be scary but the benefits are immense. Lori shares her experience of crossing cultures, reminding listeners to embrace vulnerability for personal growth and tackling important skills like empathy and adaptability. To help her audience, Lori suggests different methods like taking cooking classes, going to cultural festivals or using Duolingo to learn new languages. The podcast ends with a reminder to embrace differences and to keep making a difference in the world. Don't wait, subscribe now to A World of Difference and join the conversation about diversity and inclusion!

Lori Adams-Brown, "One way to expand your horizons is by immersing yourself in different cultures, and this can be through travel. It could be attending a cultural event. By talking to people from different backgrounds and exposing ourselves to different ways of human life."

Timestamps

[00:00:02] Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

[00:02:58] The Value of Cultural Exploration

[00:06:18] The Importance of Stepping Outside Our Comfort Zone

[00:09:40] Benefits of Vulnerability in Cultural Learning

[00:13:03] Embracing discomfort for growth and connection

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[00:00:06] This is a podcast for those who are different and wanna make a difference

[00:05:33] So what if I told you that stepping out of your comfort zone can lead to personal growth and a greater understanding of the world around

[00:06:30] But also, we change in the process of learning from other people. We become better versions of ourselves when we expose ourselves and open ourselves up at vulnerability in our minds to change of how we might learn from someone else

[00:08:58] It's not always easy to step outside our comfort zones because if fear and the unknown can really hold us back, and it can be difficult to even know where to start sometimes

[00:02:58] But if that's outside of your comfort zone, maybe that's the kind of situation you're thinking about today as I think as we talk about being outside your comfort zone

[00:06:48] Stepping out of our comfort zones can also help us develop important skills such as being adaptable. Empathetic. We all know that empathetic leaders are the best kinds of leaders

[00:08:58] It's not always easy to step outside our comfort zones because if fear and the unknown can really hold us back, and it can be difficult to even know where to start sometimes

[00:01:53] We have so many voices and perspectives that we wanna hear from and want to join together to collaborate in this effort of us all around the world, so please leave us a review

[00:11:16] Culture around the world dance so differently, and we can learn a lot about culture by just learning to dance

[00:03:38] Going outside of my comfort zone would be probably sitting with a bunch of women learning to do crafts or knitting or sewing or something of that nature I don't know what he does about that, but it's just really outside of my comfort zone

[00:05:33] So what if I told you that stepping out of your comfort zone can lead to personal growth and a greater understanding of the world around

[00:00:06] This is a podcast for those who are different and wanna make a difference

[00:06:30] But also, we change in the process of learning from other people. We become better versions of ourselves when we expose ourselves and open ourselves up at vulnerability in our minds to change of how we might learn from someone else

[00:02:06] My question is, have you ever found yourself in a situation where you were outside of your comfort zone?

[00:04:56] And for many of us, being in an unfamiliar territory can be intimidating, even scary

[00:09:30] This can be a great way to connect with other people who are also interested in learning about other cultures

[00:07:50] So, it's not just about gaining knowledge, it's about stepping out of our comfort zone and developing these new skills, learning to be flexible and handling changes that come our way and challenges in ways that we're better able to not cope with, but to embrace and learn from and overcome those obstacles and move forward

[00:10:40] Duolingo is a great app if you're wanting to learn another language, but also it could be just taking cooking classes

[00:01:15] Either way, this podcast is gonna have something for all of us to learn

Here are three tips to help you embrace discomfort and grow:

  1. Start small: It's easy to get overwhelmed and anxious when facing something new. Start with small, manageable steps that push you just outside your comfort zone. For example, strike up a conversation with someone you don't know at a networking event or try a new hobby.

  2. Celebrate your successes: Acknowledge and celebrate each time you step out of your comfort zone. Whether it's a small or big win, take pride in your progress and use it to build momentum for your next challenge.

  3. Learn from failures: It's okay to stumble and make mistakes. Use these experiences as opportunities for growth and learning. Ask yourself what you could have done differently and how you can apply these lessons moving forward.

If you're looking for motivation to embrace discomfort and grow, this podcast episode is a must-listen. As Lori says, "The more we get out of our comfort zones, the more we're living life to the fullest."

Here are three key takeaways from the episode:

  1. Discomfort is necessary for growth: In order to grow and develop as individuals, we must embrace discomfort and push ourselves to try new things. This can be scary and intimidating, but it's the only way to truly expand our horizons.

  2. Failure is not the end: Stepping outside your comfort zone inevitably means you will experience setbacks and failures. But as Lori points out, "Failure is not the end. It's simply an opportunity to learn, grow, and adapt." Don't let fear of failure hold you back from taking risks and trying new things.

  3. Embracing discomfort can lead to greater fulfillment: When we stay within the confines of our comfort zones, we're limiting ourselves. By embracing discomfort and taking risks, we open ourselves up to new experiences and opportunities that can lead to greater fulfillment and satisfaction in life.

If you're ready to step outside your comfort zone and embrace discomfort, this podcast episode is a great place to start. As Lori says, "We all have the power to change our lives for the better. It starts with being brave enough to take that first step."

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Join Lori Adams-Brown on the World of Difference Podcast as she shares 12 tips to support survivors of spiritual abuse. As someone who has personally experienced this, Lori emphasizes the importance of listening without judgment and validating survivors' feelings. She provides practical ways to support your friend or family member, including self-care and connecting with resources. Lori also urges listeners to educate themselves and hold abusers accountable. This episode covers how to support survivors of workplace harassment as well, with tips on reporting incidents and providing energy-boosting activities. Don't miss this informative and empowering episode on helping survivors heal from spiritual abuse.

Long Summary

Lori Adams-Brown is back at it again with another compelling episode of A World of Difference! In this week's episode, she delves into the often-misunderstood topic of spiritual abuse and offers 12 tips on how to support those who have experienced it. Drawing on her experience as a survivor of this heinous act, Lori emphasizes the importance of listening, validating feelings, and providing resources such as therapy and support groups. She advises against placing undue pressure on survivors to forgive too quickly, instead encouraging practical and tangible support such as paying for therapy or organizing meetings with church leadership.

The episode also provides advice on supporting those who have endured hostile work environments, harassment, and discrimination. Offering a myriad of practical solutions such as offering to help document experiences and going for walks together, Lori reiterates the importance of being patient and understanding in the healing process. The episode closes with a call to action for listeners to educate themselves on spiritual abuse, hold church leadership accountable, and offer ongoing support.

Listeners are in for an informative and heart-warming episode, where Lori shares her experience and expertise with grace and humility. Her tips and advice are a must-listen for anyone looking to support survivors of spiritual abuse and other forms of trauma. So, put on your headphones, tune in, and prepare to be inspired!

Timestamps

[00:00:02] Tips for Supporting Survivors of Spiritual Abuse

[00:03:30] Supporting Spiritual Abuse Survivors

[00:06:56] Supporting Spiritual Abuse Survivors

[00:10:19] Supporting Survivors of Spiritual Abuse

[00:13:42] Practical Ways to Support Survivors of Abuse

[00:16:30] Supporting survivors of workplace abuse

[00:20:00] Encouraging Support for Spiritual Abuse Survivors

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Our Story Part 1: The Calm Before the Storm

(There are 6 EPS in the Our Story series, where Lori and Jason share their spiritual abuse story in long form. EPS 100-105)

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Despite being faced with the hardships of COVID-19 and the uncertainty of her future, Melissa Hughes never expected that a simple video of her kids' sledding would spark an unexpected journey of spreading hope and connection to millions of people. How did Melissa's simple act of sharing her story lead her to such an extraordinary journey?

In this episode, you will be able to:

  1. Discover Melissa Hughes' unexpected path to TikTok stardom and the lessons she learned along the way.

  2. Navigate the hurdles and culture shock of living abroad with resilience and adaptability.

  3. Embrace vulnerability and faith in times of adversity to foster personal growth.

  4. Utilize social media as a powerful tool to create connections and fight loneliness.

  5. Delve into diverse religious perspectives and traditions during Holy Week for a richer understanding.

My special guest is Melissa Hughes.

If you're feeling overwhelmed, frustrated, and disheartened by your attempts to connect and create meaningful relationships, then you are not alone!

Have you heard the myths that social media has no positive impact, or that it can actually increase loneliness? Or that it is impossible to use social media responsibly? Parents who seek connection and inspiration, don't miss out on this opportunity to hear the truth from Melissa Hughes about harnessing social media for positive impact and combating loneliness.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:03:39 - Accidentally Going Viral on TikTok,

00:05:54 - Coping with Culture Shock,

00:11:08 - Coping with Unexpected Challenges

00:13:55 - Wrestling with Faith

00:15:20 - Faith and Testing,

00:16:37 - Nashville School Shooting

00:21:38 - God and Suffering,

00:25:13 - Walking Through Suffering,

00:27:04 - Using TikTok for Good,

00:30:30 - Using social media for good,

00:32:55 - Engaging with followers,

00:36:19 - Overcoming mental hurdles,

00:41:01 - Traditions and teaching kids,

00:43:23 - Holding lament and positivity,

00:46:12 - Welcome and Invitation,

00:47:24 - Commemorating Holy Week,

00:48:16 - Exclusive Patreon Episode,

00:49:37 - Invitation to Patreon,

00:50:08 - Closing Remarks,

Coping with Unexpected Challenges

Life can often present unexpected challenges, and it's crucial to learn how to cope with these situations. Developing resilience and adaptability can help individuals navigate challenging times more effectively. Embracing vulnerability, accepting one's emotions, and finding support from others can go a long way in overcoming adversity. By understanding that setbacks and hardships are a part of life and can often be the catalyst for personal growth, individuals can move forward with an optimistic and empowered mindset. In the discussion with Melissa Hughes, she shares her personal experience of coping with adversity during her time living abroad in the UK with her family. Facing challenges such as a car accident, adjusting to a new culture, and trying to maintain her faith amidst difficulties, Melissa highlights the importance of giving oneself permission to feel a wide range of emotions and seek support. Through these experiences, Melissa ultimately grows stronger and more confident in her ability to navigate life's challenges.

"Mountaintop experiences are for sights and inspiration, but the fruit grows in the valleys." - Melissa Hughes

"Create content that sets your soul on fire." - Melissa Hughes

"I feel like Jesus would be on TikTok. He'd be praying for people through the screen." - Melissa Hughes

Melissa Hughes is a TikTok influencer, international speaker, and best-selling author.

She has been booked twice on The Kelly Clarkson Show and featured for the New York Times Best Seller “Primal Scream” on NBC. She has over 240,000 followers on TikTok with over 11 million likes. She is also a best-selling author of the book She Can Laugh along with a children’s book called, “Mommy Loves You When”. She has also done missionary work in the UK for several years with her husband and two children.

In this episode, you will be able to: Discover Melissa Hughes' unexpected path to TikTok stardom and the lessons she learned along the way. Navigate the hurdles and culture shock of living abroad with resilience and adaptability. Embrace vulnerability and faith in times of adversity to foster personal growth. Utilize social media as a powerful tool to create connections and fight loneliness. Delve into diverse religious perspectives and traditions during Holy Week for a richer understanding.

God and Suffering The question of why suffering exists and how it relates to one's faith in God is a deeply complex and personal issue for many. Understanding that suffering can lead to personal growth and finding solace in knowing that God is compassionate and supportive through difficult times can bring a sense of peace and help individuals navigate their experiences. During her conversation with Lori Adams-Brown, Melissa Hughes reflects on her experience with suffering and the impact on her faith. Melissa discusses a passage from the book of James that helped her realize that God is present during times of suffering, and He is big enough to help her through her struggles. Melissa's story of grappling with the issue of God and suffering offers insight and encouragement to others on their journey to make sense of their own experiences.

Wrestling with Faith Faith can be a great source of comfort and guidance, but it can also be the source of doubt or uncertainty. Struggling with one's faith is normal, and questioning one's beliefs can often lead to a deeper relationship with one's spirituality. It's essential to be honest with oneself and explore these thoughts and feelings, as this can help individuals find meaning and direction in their spiritual journey. Melissa Hughes shares her experience of wrestling with her faith, particularly during challenging times. She openly discusses the doubts and questions she faced and how it felt like she was betraying God by doubting Him. Melissa's honesty and vulnerability highlight the importance of remaining true to oneself and being willing to ask difficult questions on one's faith journey, even if the answers aren't immediately clear.

Using TikTok for Good TikTok is a popular social media platform that has the potential for making a positive impact on people's lives when used responsibly and thoughtfully. Creators have the opportunity to connect with a wide audience, share ideas, and spread positivity. By focusing on creating content that is authentic, relatable, and meaningful, individuals can utilize this platform successfully to make a difference. Melissa Hughes's experience as a TikTok influencer, with over 240,000 followers on the platform, demonstrates how the platform can be utilized for good. Initially sharing content related to motherhood, Melissa now strives to inspire and uplift moms, in particular, mompreneurs, by helping them find joy and energy in their daily lives. Melissa emphasizes the importance of staying true to oneself, creating content that speaks to one's passions, and focusing on making a positive impact.

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https://linktr.ee/melissaleahughes

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Guest: Brenden Kumarasamy, Founder of MasterTalk, a YouTube channel dedicated to helping people master the art of public speaking.

Introduction:

In this episode, we have Brenden Kumarasamy, a public speaking coach, and founder of MasterTalk, a YouTube channel dedicated to helping people master the art of public speaking. Brenden shares his insights on how to become a confident and effective public speaker, and how to connect with your audience.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Public speaking is a skill that can be learned: Many people believe that public speaking is a natural talent, but Brenden believes that anyone can become an effective public speaker with the right training and practice.
  2. Start with the end in mind: Before you start preparing your speech, think about the outcome you want to achieve. What message do you want to convey? What action do you want your audience to take?
  3. Structure your speech: A well-structured speech can help you communicate your message effectively. Brenden recommends using the following structure: Introduction, Body, and Conclusion.
  4. Use stories and examples: Stories and examples can help you connect with your audience and make your message more relatable.
  5. Practice, practice, practice: Practice is the key to becoming a confident and effective public speaker. Brenden recommends practicing your speech multiple times before you deliver it, and recording yourself to identify areas for improvement.
  6. Focus on your body language: Your body language can convey a lot of information to your audience. Brenden recommends using confident body language, such as standing up straight, making eye contact, and using hand gestures.

Conclusion:

In this episode, Brenden Kumarasamy shared his insights on how to become a confident and effective public speaker. He emphasized the importance of preparation, structure, and practice, and provided tips on how to connect with your audience. If you're looking to improve your public speaking skills, this episode is a must-listen!

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Let go of fear and resistance and join the movement of authentic storytelling to make a real difference in the world.

"My belief is that for small businesses, like personal brands, online podcast guesting can really be the center of your marketing if you let it - and it can also create all of the content if you will allow yourself to repurpose it, all of the content that you will ever need should you choose to be active on social media or have an email list or those types of things." Christine McAlister

Christine McAlister is a media expert with two decades of experience in broadcasting, documentary production and online marketing. She has been featured in Inc, Business Insider, Bustle, The Huffington Post, and on over 100 podcasts, and is passionate about helping entrepreneurs attract their next clients by being top 1% podcast guests.

Christine McAlister had been in the media and storytelling industry since 1999, but it wasn't until she was invited to be on her first podcast that she was able to embrace the medium of podcasting as a way to tell stories. She was able to overcome her fear and resistance and began to approach it as a joy. With encouragement from people in the business, Christine pivoted her whole business to helping people share their stories and work in an authentic way. She now helps people realize the power of podcasting to create instant intimacy and connection, and to build their businesses. With her values of humanity, Christine encourages people to focus on quality over quantity, do research, create tailored pitches, and remember that it's a date and not a one night stand.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How to leverage the power of podcast guesting to build your business and market yourself authentically.

  2. How to use the power of storytelling to make authentic connections and create an instant intimacy.

  3. How to identify clonable clients and tap into the right podcasts to find them.

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Dele Kooley on career pivots

Jake Sasseville on big moves

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A World of Difference is a podcast for those who are different. We have another woman on the show this week, Christine McAlister. She is passionate about helping entrepreneurs attract their next clients by being top 1% podcast guests. This week marks Women's History Month.

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Lori: Here we are recording today podcast in Women's History Month, of all things. Having two women and podcasting still a minority. In France, it's the opposite. Maybe we should move to France.

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Sally Kohn has been in media and storytelling since 1999. She recorded her first podcast interview when she was eight and a half months pregnant. Kohn pivoted her business to helping people share their stories and their work in a really authentic way. This is why we need to hear women's stories.

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For small businesses, online podcast guesting can really be the center of your marketing if you let it. Being a podcast guest specifically can get you in front of a whole new audience. There are so many other beautiful collaborations, connections, benefits.

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3 million podcasts are out there right now. I recommend going back to basics as we would in any business. Quality over quantity, getting in front of the right people. Find out what they're listening to and then research those shows. Create a customized outreach.

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Lori: Let's talk about some of the common mistakes people make when they're trying to land a podcast guest opportunity. She says it all starts with shifting the way that you look at it. People remember how you make them feel, and that's just so important in business and education.

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Do you have any success stories from your clients or students who've used podcast guesting to grow their businesses? Our clients get an average or book an average of one high ticket client per appearance. We could apply this to change.

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Brene Brown grew up in a warm culture, so there's warm cultures cold cultures. podcast is so different. It is an exchange, it is a conversation. There are some skills that you can teach people and I'm glad you're teaching those.

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Christine: Do you have any advice for somebody who's, like you mentioned imposter syndrome? She says if there's something that you care about enough or and or a business that you have that you're allowing an exchange of money. We need voices out there that are not speaking right now, she says.

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Christine: How can people find you and learn more about the work that you do? I have a checklist that you can use to be a great podcast guest. Everybody go get your dopamine hit by downloading this checklist. I would love to hear how this dopamine hit is making you happier all around the world.

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I just love to hear the stories of women in Women's History Month. If you have any interest at all in being a podcast guest, reach out to Christine McAlister. For only $5 a month, you can be a part of this community where we go a little deeper.

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In this episode of the World of Difference podcast, Dr. Nijay Gupta, a Hindu background Christian and seminary professor, uses his privilege to uncover the hidden female figures in the New Testament and challenge the long-standing patriarchal lens on the Bible to foster an atmosphere of equality and inclusion in the church.

"Just like that with the Bible. And we have failed. I have failed in the past to see these women, to recognize them, to admire them, and to tell their story." - Dr. Nijay Gupta

Dr. Nijay Gupta is a professor at Northern Seminary of New Testament and author of the book "Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church". He is a Hindu background Christian who has dedicated his life to studying the Bible and training Christian leaders.

Dr. Nijay Gupta was raised in a Southern Baptist denomination and experienced a male-centric view of the Bible. He realized that many of the stories about the women in the Bible had been hidden, and set out to make them known. After many years of research and writing, he released his book, "Tell Her Story," which explores the roles of women in the Bible, and their importance. He explains how the cultural and socioeconomic status of these women was incredibly important to understand their stories, and how they were able to lead, despite the patriarchal views of the time. Dr. Gupta hopes that by uncovering the hidden figures of the New Testament, the Church will be able to recognize the importance of women's voices and use their God-given gifts for the benefit of all.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. Exploring the nuance of women leading in the early church, how has the long-standing tradition of egalitarian theology impacted the way we view women in the Bible today?

  2. Examining the role of women in the church, how can we create an environment of shoulder-to-shoulder collaboration between male and female leaders?

  3. Leveraging male privilege to elevate women, how can we use our male privilege to create a space for women to use their God-given gifts and preach the gospel?

Resources:

Order Tell Her Story here.

Other episodes you'll enjoy:

Allyson McKinney Timm on the Faith 4 ERA Campaign

Dr. Mimi Haddad on Christians for Biblical Equality

Kate Wallace Nunneley on the Junia Project

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[00:00:02]

Dr. Nijay Gupta is a professor at Northern Seminary of New Testament. He is the author of a book called tell Her Story. How Women Taught Led. We're thrilled to have him on the church during Women's History Month.

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Dr. Nijay Gupta is on the World of Difference podcast today. He talks about his new book, Tell Her Story. He says it's moving towards spring in California. People are really excited for your book release.

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Lori: What brought you into being interested in biblical studies? Lori: I grew up in a Hindu family, became a believer in Jesus as a teenager. I've been teaching for almost 15 years. I love the work I do. Lori: It really is important to me to know who was part of the translation process.

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There's been a lot of misunderstanding around women in the New Testament. The author changed her mind after doing a blog series called Why I Believe in Women in Ministry. Tell us more about the book and what readers are going to gain from it.

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A lot of my book is about stepping out of some of the artificial frameworks we use. Where women were teachers, apostles, prisoners for the Lord. It's far past time that we give them the credit that is owed to them. The church job or office of pastor is a modern phenomenon.

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Lydia is a businesswoman. Paul preaches to her, and her whole household is converted. She is a natural leader, and the apostles don't chide her for that. When we're not letting women use their Godgiven gifts in the church, we all miss out.

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Southern Baptist Convention has kicked out Saddleback Church in California. Lori Penny: In many churches where it looks as though women can lead, but in reality they're not really leading. Penny: We need to return to some older ways of careful, honest, authentic, open, vulnerable discipleship.

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Paul says Junior is a prisoner for the sake of the Gospel. She represents what we think of as the first generation of Christianity. Just imagining the bravery and the faith of these women that we don't talk enough about inspired this book.

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EJ: How can people find you? I want to make sure people follow your podcast your blog, all your writing and what you're doing. For our patreon supporters, we're going to do an exclusive episode here in a second with him around some of the stuff that's gone on at Northern Seminary. Sign up for this month so that you can be a part of hearing this conversation.

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Dr. Nijay Gupta's latest book is Tell Her Story how women led, taught and ministered in the early Church. We recorded an exclusive interview with him around what's going on at Northern Seminary. Join our patreon community for as little as $5 a month and get free merch.

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Allyson McKinney Timm, a global justice advocate and founder of Justice Revival, leads an interfaith campaign to support women's rights, gender equality and the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution, despite the culture war drama, religious resistance and financial challenges she faces.

"We need to do everything possible to ensure women's rights are protected, and the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution is an essential and necessary starting point. It's no one's saying that it is going to finish the job, but it's what we need just to get out of the gate and to get serious about tackling these problems." - Allyson McKinney Timm

Allyson McKinney Timm is a human rights lawyer, scholar, and faith leader with two decades of experience defending the dignity and rights of those on the margins in the US and globally. She is the executive director and founder of Justice Revival, an organization that works to inspire, educate, and mobilize Christian action to support the human rights of all people.

Allyson McKinney Timm is a passionate advocate for human rights, founding Justice Revival to inspire, educate, and mobilize Christian action to support the human rights of all people. When she reflects on the issues facing women globally and in the US, safety, provision, and dignity all come to the forefront. To address the systemic inequality that women have faced in the US, she has been pushing for the Equal Rights Amendment to the US Constitution. Despite resistance from some who are afraid of inclusion and equality, she has continued to fight for the ERA and other measures to protect women's human rights. As Allyson works to bring about a cultural shift towards recognizing the human rights of all people, she is reminded of the human costs of discrimination and hopes to see the US take the lead in upholding and protecting

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How the US Constitution is Lagging Behind in Protecting Women's Rights

  2. The Challenges of Promoting Human Rights Awareness in the US

  3. Examining Human Rights Through a Legal and Theological Lens.

Resources:

www.justicerevival.org

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Lori Adams Brown: Happy International Women's Day to every woman around the world. Today we have a very special guest, allyson McKinney Timm, the executive director and founder of Justice Revival. allyson is a human rights lawyer, a scholar, and a faith leader with two decades of experience.

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Justice Revival is a diverse and inclusive Christian ministry with a mission of inspiring, educating, and mobilizing Christian action to support the human rights of all people. A lot of Justice Revival's work over the last six years has been creating innovative Christian education on human rights. It's such a rare space to see justice come together in the US.

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This week marks International Women's Day. What do you believe are the most pressing issues facing women globally and in the US? Safety, provision and dignity are common themes. Although we often want to point fingers elsewhere, we certainly have much, much work to do here.

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Faith for Era submitted tesTimmony at Senate hearing on Equal Rights Amendment. The measure would enshrine equality for women in the US constitution. Some opponents have argued it's unnecessary or could have unintended consequences.

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Part of what the Era would do is raise the bar on sex discrimination. But there can still be other important considerations that are part of the analysis. It is so important to understand what it will and won't do and not fall prey to some of the narratives.

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Christianity too often gets invoked to oppose human rights rather than uphold it. That fear of a more diverse, inclusive, egalitarian society has driven opposition to the era for the last 50 years. I'd love for you to help people understand how they can get involved in advocating for the Era.

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The US is one of only seven countries worldwide that has so far failed to fully ratify and join the Women's Treaty. Most of the countries where your listeners are will already be part of CDA. And that's another key mechanism that's used to promote reform.

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There is an American tendency or desire to think of ourselves as a world leader on human rights. I would like to see Americans thinking about how to do human rights here at home. Revival is deeper commitment to human rights and especially within the Christian community.

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Justice Revival is working towards social justice. How specifically could individuals and communities support this work? Challenges include raising awareness about the work we do in the media. Third challenge is raising the support, the financial support, year after year.

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I love how your perspective on theology and law has come together to help all of justice revival be born. What advice would you give to people who are interested in promoting gender equality and social justice?

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Ali: On International Women's Day, I want to mention my mom, Suan, because she is the inspiration and really probably the reason I ended up doing this. How can people find you and more of your work? Where do you want to point them to?

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Ali Vitali: International Women's Day is a chance to learn from women around the world. She says she has been blessed to work with Justice Revival board member Allie O'Brien. She'll be in Abu Dhabi for the event, and she'll be posting updates on social media.

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I just want to encourage all of us to find just one thing. Maybe it's reading a book or listening to the story of a woman who's experienced something that she mentioned. Contacting your person in Congress that represents you to let them know your thoughts. There's so many ways to get involved.

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The word courage comes from the root word related to heart. When you experience the feelings of others and that gives you that courage, maybe that's where you need to start. I believe that courage is contagious. Your next step is today.

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Ali talks with us about her mom and how her mom inspired her. You can go to our Patreon community as little as $5 a month. If you want to join in the conversation about what your next step is for International Women's Day, for Women's History Month, for working for human rights, would love to hear about it.

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Experience the power of overcoming pain and discovering purpose through Angela’s inspiring journey.

"It's not about the stuff, and it's not about all these luxury things. People spend $5 million on a wedding, and I'm like, it's the most important day of their life until it's not right."

Angela Proffitt is a productivity expert, podcast host, celebrity wedding and event planner, speaker, and author. She has been working for over two decades to help CEO's, executives, entrepreneurs, and solopreneurs grow their company brand.

Angela Proffitt was a child who struggled with dyslexia and who dreamed of being a nurse, but instead found her passion in the wedding and events industry. After graduating college with a Psychology degree, she experienced a deep pain point when her computer crashed and she lost all her work. This experience led her to be the first on board with any new technological advances, and her deep understanding of technology has allowed her to create a successful career. Angela now uses her experiences to help other entrepreneurs and encourages them to take risks and learn from their mistakes. Through her hard work and dedication, Angela is an example of how to turn pain into purpose.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How Angela Proffitt survived a disastrous computer crash three days before college graduation.

  2. How Angela Proffitt used her experience in psychology and healthcare to develop innovative tech solutions.

  3. How Angela Proffitt uses her experience to teach about the power of the Apple product range for productivity.

Resources:

True Colors Personality Test: https://www.idrlabs.com/true-colors/test.php

Other episodes you'll enjoy:

Jake Sasseville:

https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com/s7e116

Doni Aldine:

https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com/s8e124

Dele Kooley:

https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com/s7e119

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Angela Proffitt, founder of GSD Creative, is a productivity expert. She travels the world helping CEO, executives, entrepreneurs, and solopreneurs grow their company brand. Happy Women's History Month to everyone today.

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Angela Proffitt is the host of the World of Difference podcast. She will be appearing at Pod Fest in Orlando, Florida. Hear more about Angela Proffitt here.

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The entrepreneur got her start in the wedding and events industry. She graduated with a degree in psychology and worked in a mental hospital and an AIDS clinic. As she got older, she realized she needed an end date to her career.

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Every company and every big thing that I end up being a part of comes from a really deep pain point. Three days before college graduation, my computer crashed and I lost everything. So everything that I talk about, everything I teach, every company I'm part of come from a pain.

[00:14:57]

I moved to Apple products from PC products because I kept getting viruses. There is so much unlocked potential just from a productivity standpoint in the iPhone. It's about the people. That's the most important thing. Be present.

[00:20:12]

The psychologist lost one of his clients recently. He says he's had all his notifications turned off since the night that happened. He made a video about Kyle Jacobs and posted it last night. He has his theory of what happened but nothing has been released.

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I think you are making a difference by working on yourself and also helping others have tools and productivity. How can you motivate any of your team to be productive when you are a mess personally, with your health? It's the people all along the way that make the difference and make it worth.

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The author is dyslexic and severely ADHD. She wants great, perfect customer service. If you have a business, it's essential to communicate based on personality. She takes note of lacking company, culture, things like this that are missing.

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Enneagram, strength. Finders Myers Briggs, which, by the way, he works with the Myers Briggs mother daughter for this. When you don't know how to unleash the power of your people based on the way their brain is naturally wired, you're missing out.

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A lot of people get married when they're young. You can't get married till you're at least 30. The Golds take care of the oranges like crazy erratic behavior. When you start to recognize how the strengths of someone else can actually help you, then annoy you, your life will change.

[00:45:42]

Angela: Zoom Kova changed a lot, but without this little tool, I don't know who I would be. Where's the main place you want people to go to to find you? Angelaprophet. com. Take care today, Angela.

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A few days after we interviewed Angela, her family lost their beloved dog. She says it's important to listen and sit with people in their grief. If you're experiencing grief of any kind right now, please reach out to us in our patreon community.

[00:54:28]

Next week we have a special guest coming on, my friend Angela McKinney. Tim will be talking about her recent visit to the Supreme Court for the Era. We'll also be in Abu Dhabi for International Women's Day. Lots to talk about next week.

Angela Proffitt shares about her entrepreneurship journey, her grief after a recent loss, and how knowing people deeply brings happiness and business growth.

Celebrity Wedding & Event Planner | Podcast Host |

Time Management Consultant | Speaker | Author

Angela Proffitt, Founder of GSD Creative, is a productivity expert, podcast host, celebrity wedding & event planner, speaker and author that travels the world, helping CEO’s, executives, entrepreneurs, and solopreneurs grow their company brand.

As a serial entrepreneur Angela has spent over two decades mastering effective business processes and consulting for multimillion-dollar brands. Angela knows what drives conversions, sold-out events, and consumer engagement - and it’s not the fluff.

It is Angela’s background in psychology, her effective communication techniques, and the “Get Shit Done” attitude that helps drive success.

Angela has been featured in media and publications that include: TLC, ABC Family, People’s Magazine, Success Magazine and US Weekly, to name a few. In addition to running multiple businesses, Angela has served on the board of the Entrepreneur’s Organization - Nashville, as social chair, MyEO chair, mentorship chair, and marketing chair at the regional level. Since 2017 she has been the host of Business Unveiled; a podcast for the hospitality industry, taking you behind the scenes of running a creative business.

When Angela is not working, you can find her TikTok’ing with her nieces and nephew and learning about the latest advancements in Apple technology.

ANGELAPROFFITT.COM

https://www.tiktok.com/@angelaproffitt_

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwdB7cvwDh9BKAmDSzc_RYQ

https://www.instagram.com/angelaproffitt/

https://www.facebook.com/AngelaProffittLLC/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsdleader/

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Lori Adams-Brown guides us through the challenging yet empowering process of embracing change, exploring the power of self-compassion, and finding ways to stay in control in order to flourish.

Lori Adams-Brown is a third culture kid and experienced change manager who has learned to cope with change through self-compassion, focusing on what she can control, staying flexible and adaptable, and practicing self-care.

Lori Adams-Brown guides us through the challenging yet empowering process of embracing change, exploring the power of self-compassion and finding ways to stay in control in order to flourish.

"Maya Angelou said, 'If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude.'"

Lori Adams-Brown is a third culture kid and experienced change manager who has learned to cope with change through self-compassion, focusing on what she can control, staying flexible and adaptable, and practicing self-care.

Lori Adams-Brown learned first-hand the difficulty of change. From being a third culture kid and having to move schools, to welcoming three new children into her home, change was a part of her life. She taught herself to pay attention to her emotions, to focus on the parts of change she could control, to stay flexible, and to prioritize self care. Through these practices, she was able to cope with change in her life and find the beauty in it.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How to cope with change from an in-depth personal perspective.

  2. What strategies can be used to cope with change?

  3. How can self-care help with dealing with transitions in life?

Resources:

A list of people thank

Other episodes you'll enjoy:

Dele Downs Kooley on repatriation and career change

Karen González on helpful changes for immigrants

Dr. Debbie Pinkston on therapy, self-care and wellbeing

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Welcome to the A World of Difference podcast. Today we're talking about change. We're going to talk about why change is something we must face, both good and bad. And I would love to hear back from you on your perspective and your thoughts around change.

[00:01:30]

How can we change our attitude about change? I welcomed the change of welcoming into our home each of our three children. Change in my life has been one of the best decisions I ever made. An exclusive interview with each of you who are our patrons, the Patreon supporters, where I'll dig into how I coped through some of the biggest changes.

[00:04:08]

Change was a part of my life growing up quite a bit, moving to new schools. I've had to learn a lot about change management and different leadership styles. Every work culture, every organizational culture has a different way of handling change. It has to be managed well.

[00:06:43]

Change is an inevitable part of life. Here are five ways to cope with change. Pay attention to your emotions. Focus on the parts of the change that you can control. Allow yourself to feel through them with a lot of self-compassion.

[00:14:15]

The fourth thing I would say is it's really important to have a practice of caring for yourself. So practicing self-care when change happens. It's so important to practice and prioritize self-care, especially in terms of transition.

[00:25:05]

In the realm of support is also seeking professional help from a therapist or a counselor. Remember, though, that coping with change is not an overnight thing. It takes time.

[00:29:50]

If you would like to be a part of a community, we have a Patreon community where I would love to discuss this. You can join for as little as $5 a month. I'm going to be releasing an exclusive episode around this concept of change. Let us know how you're doing and how change is happening for you.

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In this podcast episode, Dr. Caryn A. Reeder examines the irony of the traditional interpretation of the Samaritan woman in John 4 and challenges long-held beliefs about women's roles in the church, illuminating the powerful role of women in the New Testament.

Dr. Caryn A. Reeder is a professor of New Testament and the coordinator of the Gender Studies Program at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California. She is the author of several books, including The Enemy in the Household, Family Violence in Deuteronomy and beyond, Gendering War and Peace and The Gospel of Luke, and her latest book, The Samaritan Woman's Story.

In this podcast episode, Caryn Reeder examines the irony of the traditional interpretation of the Samaritan woman in John 4 and challenges long-held beliefs about women's roles in the church, illuminating the powerful role of women in the New Testament.

"What if we recognize that and celebrated women's words in our own churches? Oh, I do. Definitely do. Yeah. Women are really important in the narrative. In John's gospel, Jesus public ministry starts because of a woman, because his mother tells him, take care of this problem with we've run out of wine at this wedding. Take care of it, Jesus. And he does it because his mother tells him to, and that is what it says in John."

Dr. Caryn A. Reeder is a professor of New Testament and the coordinator of the Gender Studies Program at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California. She is the author of several books, including The Enemy in the Household, Family Violence in Deuteronomy and beyond, Gendering War and Peace and The Gospel of Luke, and her latest book, The Samaritan Woman's Story.

Caryn Reeder grew up on a farm in Illinois, where she was introduced to the Bible on an academic basis. After college, she went to Jerusalem and studied the Misinterpretation of the Samaritan Woman in the transcript. Caryn discovered that the traditional interpretation of the woman being an immoral outcast was damaging and silenced her story. Despite the traditional perspective of women being silenced, Caryn realized that in the New Testament, women were important participants and patrons in the early Christian communities. Caryn is now on a mission to change the perspective of women in the church and to celebrate their words.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How did the Bible's interpretation change over time and around the world?

  2. What is the real story behind the conversation between Jesus and the Samaritan woman?

  3. What challenges does the conversation between Jesus and the Samaritan woman pose to our views on gender, identity and who is worthy to understand and respond to Jesus?

Resources:

The Samaritan Woman's Story: Reconsidering John 4 After #Churchtoo

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Hannah Nation on Faithful Disobedience in China's House Churches

Jenai Auman on Spiritual Abuse Survivors

Winfield Bevins on Liturgical Mission

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This episode is a special one for those of us who are interested in what the Bible actually says about certain women and from a woman's perspective. Dr. Karen A. Reeder is a professor of New Testament and coordination of the Gender Studies Program at Westmont College. She's here to talk about her latest book with IVP Press, the Samaritan Woman's Story.

[00:01:39]

Welcome to the world of Difference Podcast. I think there are many who have misunderstood the Samaritan woman for various reasons. I'm very excited about what we're going to discuss today.

[00:02:11]

Author's research has often been centered around issues of violence and family life and gender in the Bible. She says the women of the Bible preached about or researched or theologically understood through the lens of women has been lacking for a long time. For her, it's just a hobby.

[00:05:07]

What would you say we have gotten wrong about the Samaritan woman? Most sermons on her had all been preached by men. Once she started reading more like female theologians, she realized there was a different perspective. How do you walk through that?

[00:14:46]

The contrast in John's gospel between Nicodemus and the Samaritan woman challenges a lot of our stereotypes. It can be a lesson for us in the church to respect women in a way that Jesus does.

[00:25:15]

We have a couple of texts in the New Testament that do seem to silence women. But all the books are really contextual. They're written to particular people who are experiencing particular situations. What would you say to someone who says it's not okay for women to preach?

[00:26:38]

In the New Testament, we have a witness to women's significance, importance and contributions to the church. Maybe we shouldn't prioritize One Timothy chapter Two over this wide array of evidence. It's playing fast and loose with scripture when you don't take the time to look into something.

[00:30:37]

Some scholars have argued that what happened in the Church was connected to what was happening in Roman society more generally. Even though we have the primary voices of the time saying women should not have authority, women were still doing it. Reincorporating those women into our church history is also really important.

[00:34:31]

My New Testament intro classes are one of the classes that all students at Westmont College are expected to take. Using those as lenses to help read Scripture is really revolutionary for a lot of students. Getting the lenses to examine scripture and what it might have meant for its earliest audiences is a game changer.

[00:36:15]

Coming back to this issue of Women and the Bible. I gave the students a chapter from Kat Armis's Abuelita Theology. It sparked so much conversation among the students. I hope that it will open a whole new way of reading and understanding scripture.

[00:38:43]

Lori ADBR: In this Change series, we're embracing change. She says it can be very uncomfortable to change our minds. But when new information comes our way, we get to take it in, research it, try to understand it. She hopes this podcast has brought new information to you.

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Celebrate the courage to explore, learn and grow with empathy, as TCKs show us how to thrive with multiple dimensions of belonging.

"The biggest tool in our tool bag is something that we're good at, but we need to focus on more so that we can use it to our advantage, and that would be empathy. So being very open, one thing I find, and I found this to myself, and I have to work on it every day, is we are so multicultural. Right. We do all the things, we've been all the places, we think we got it right. But there's so much..." Doni Aldine

Doni Aldine is a globally mobile, Afro Latina and first generation North American who is passionate about creating community for cross cultural populations. She is the editor and founder of Culturs magazine and a TCK scholar who speaks around the globe on the subject.

Doni Aldine was born in New York City and at two weeks old, she started her international travel. Growing up in seven different cultures on five continents, she developed an immense appreciation for cultural diversity. She became a TCK scholar and Editor-in-Chief of Culturs magazine, which celebrates 21st century cultural diversity. Doni taught her students to break their lenses and think outside of themselves, and she emphasizes the importance of having the courage to learn about different cultures and empathy to understand them. Through her own experience, Doni has learned that we all have the power to choose who we are and to embrace all of who we are.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How TCKs Develop Empathy Through Cross-Cultural Experiences

  2. Exploring the Dimensionality of TCKs and Their Families

  3. Understanding the Benefits and Challenges of Being a TCK in the 21st Century.

Resources:

https://www.cultursmag.com/

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The Aworld of Difference is a podcast for those who are different and want to make a difference. This week Lori Adams Brown talks about her new job in Silicon Valley. Change means the good, the bad and the I don't want to talk about it.

[00:00:48]

Doni Aldine identifies as a Third Culture kid, a TCK, because of her experiences growing up in multiple cultures. She's passionate about creating community for cross cultural populations. She brings a nuanced conversation around the beautiful aspects of Black history.

[00:06:34]

It's hard sometimes to help monoculturals understand. I focus on dimensionality, something that I realize about being a TCK because everyone's t cknus is very different. The biggest tool in our tool bag is something we're good at, but we need to focus on more. That would be empathy.

[00:11:33]

As a TCK, you have to learn how to observe and learn a culture by watching what people do. There's so much observation required to fit in or assimilate. You have to have the courage to put your foot in it.

[00:16:42]

In the last two years, I've seen a huge shift in how many people know what TCK is. It's about belonging. We don't need to be rooted in one country. Most TCKs love that our identity does not come from one place.

[00:22:43]

Research shows that TCKs have a break between a physical, mental or emotional break between age 27 and like, 45. Unresolved grief is the thing that causes TCKS the most pain over time. We've had to find ways to connect to our people.

[00:26:36]

We would just like to see more diversity of even Asian American actors. Why is it so often when you have an Asian in a role in a movie or a TV show, so much of it is very cliche and very stereotypical. It takes quite a while before it's truly mainstream.

[00:32:09]

How would you say that emotional intelligence is key for diversity and inclusion? People are starting to embrace going more deeply into diversity, inclusion and belonging. There's also social justice, I feel. Intelligence can help us take it to the next level.

[00:38:52]

One of the things you love about the Bay Area is a total of TCKs of all varieties. On the World of Difference podcast, one of our highest values is getting as many perspectives as possible. Everyone can be an ally, everyone can elevate, and together we all make a difference.

[00:43:12]

The hidden diversity is who we are beneath the surface that may not be seen and adds to the conversation. Being a TCK is part of that hidden diversity. What are some of the key parts that really have resonated with you or your students?

[00:47:21]

Most male, majority female, PC or US Minority. Person of color. Who do you think would be second best? The last one. You are the first to get that.

[00:48:12]

The person who typically understands the concepts the best is the male, the white male who comes into my class. Versus the worst one is typically the minority US Population. We need to be champions like you and your husband are champions for those things. The pain is in the learning, and the learning is in a quiet moment.

[00:54:20]

The next year of Cultures is a year of Latin America. Who's the change maker in your life that you admire? Definitely my parents, my mom and my dad. And my father in death, actually, and as he fought cancer, he really inspired me.

[00:56:26]

Omi Osaka and Simone Biles have spoken out about mental health. I love that this generation is so concerned about our health. Gen Z and Jen Alpha challenge you for real. That's the superpower of this generation.

[01:01:58]

Doni Aldine: In this Change series, we're going to have some pretty exciting guests coming up. They'll talk about how to deal with unwanted change, expected and unexpected change. If this show has impacted you, or if any of our shows have, to reach out.

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In Hannah Nation's podcast episode, uncover the compelling central conflict between the Chinese house

churches' global identity and the Chinese authorities' nationalist agenda, as the Hannah Nation explores the

idea of persecution as an apologetic moment.

"God is not dependent on political rights to grow his church. Do political rights help? Yeah, I think

often they do. Are they important? Yeah. I'm not going to go out and give up what I think is an

important part of America and American life. That being said, God doesn't need those things in order

to grow his kingdom. His kingdom grows however he wants it to grow, and it is Him who will grow it,

not our political powers and the rights that they

Hannah Nation is the Managing Director of the Center for House Church Theology and a graduate of

Covenant College and Gordon Commonwealth Theological Seminary. She has written for Christianity Today,

the Gospel Coalition, Plough, and has edited several books, including Faithful Disobedience Writings on

Church and State from a Chinese House Church Movement.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

Church and State perspective from a Chinese House Church Movement.

Hannah Nation's unexpected journey to the Great Wall of China changed her outlook on life and faith forever.

After discovering the Chinese house church writers and their hard-to-access writings, she was inspired to make a contribution to the global audience. With a unique perspective on post-colonial theology, she encouraged others to prioritize Jesus and the global reality of the Kingdom of God. Despite persecution and fear, Hannah inspired the Chinese church to use their suffering as an opportunity to testify to the power of God and repent of their own idols. Through her work, she showed that faith can thrive even without political rights.

  1. How has the Chinese house church developed its own unique theology without outside influence?

  2. How can persecution be seen as an opportunity to share the good news of Jesus?

  3. How has the Chinese church grown exponentially in the face of political opposition?

Resources:

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Craig Greenfield on Subversive Mission

Jessica Stone on Jounalism in Asia

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Hannah Nation has edited a book called Faithful Disobedience writings on Church and State from a Chinese

house church movement. This book brings for the first time to English readers his writings, some of his

sermons. We'll talk about some of the big changes that are happening behind the scenes in China.

[00:02:31]

Hannah Nation joins A World of Difference to talk about her new book. Tell us a little bit about yourself and

who is Hannah Nation?

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I consider myself a Pittsburgh native, although I wasn't born here. My parents were living in Illinois when I

was born, and we didn't move here until I was ten. I currently live here with my husband Trey and our two

kids. It's always so amazing to meet people who've lived in a lot of other places.

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Kovac: What started your interest in China specifically? It was honestly kind of a fluke. Having lived in Asia

for 20 years, so many people end up being fascinated with China and the Chinese culture. Faithful

Disobedience has done a good job of helping us understand what is going on in China.

[00:10:17]

Faithful Disobedience is a collection of writings from a well known house church pastor named Wang Yi. A lot

of what he has to say is very applicable for people all over the world. These are very human problems that

we all have in common.

[00:13:31]

This is the first book like this from a Chinese house church writer. The voices of the Chinese house churches

have been very hard to access. This is one of the first books like this where we've been able to translate and

publish writings from a very prominent pastor.

[00:19:00]

Wang Yi is a postcolonial theologian. He's always speaking to his own government. His ideas are very

Chinese. The authorities that he's in conflict with are Chinese. What does this bring to the decolonization

conversation in Christianity?

[00:23:34]

He's very concerned about the global reality of the church. Much of what China's authorities feel concerned

about with regards to religious practice is affiliation with outside religious organizations. I really appreciate his

perspective on that. We do appreciate the prayers. Definitely the United States needs them.

[00:26:45]

Wang Yi believes that nationalism is always at its heart synchronistic. He says persecution is a time for us to

repent of our own idols. There's so much we can learn from brothers and sisters around the world about how

do we act when persecution comes.

[00:36:59]

Hannah Nation serves as the Center for House Church Theology’s Managing Director. She is a graduate of Covenant College and received her Master of Arts in Church History from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. As a student of missions history and World Christianity, she is inspired by this historical moment and the privilege of witnessing a new chapter in church history unfold across China. She has written for Plough, Christianity Today, and The Gospel Coalition, and edited several books, including Faithful Disobedience: Writings on Church and State from a Chinese House Church Movement by Wang Yi

Visit her website at hannahnation.com.

Follow her on Twitter: @HannahFSNation

Throughout China's rapidly growing cities, a new wave of unregistered house churches is growing. They are developing rich theological perspectives that are both uniquely Chinese and rooted in the historical doctrines of the faith. To understand how they have endured despite government pressure and cultural marginalization, we must understand both their history and their theology.

In this volume that Hannah discusses, key writings from the house church have been compiled, translated, and made accessible to English speakers. Featured here is a manifesto by well-known pastor Wang Yi and his church, Early Rain Covenant Church in Chengdu, to clarify their theological stance on the house church and its relationship to the Chinese government. There are also works by prominent voices such as Jin Tianming, Jin Mingri, and Sun Yi. The editors have provided introductions, notes, and a glossary to give context to each selection.

These writings are an important body of theology historically and spiritually. Though defined by a specific set of circumstances, they have universal applications in a world where the relationship between church and state is more complicated than ever. This unique resource will be valuable to practical and political theologians as well as readers interested in international relations, political philosophy, history, and intercultural studies.

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Martine Kalaw's compelling mission is to empower Human Resources professionals to make Diversity, Equity and Inclusion accessible in the workplace, but her journey as a stateless and undocumented survivor reveals the irony of empowering managers to support marginalized communities while also risking Tokenism.

You will learn how to use team building activities and mental health support to help empower marginalized groups to reach their full potential.

"It's not lip service when especially when you've got metrics and you also can identify the return on investment when we adjust those metrics and we improve the metrics."

Martine Kalaw is a speaker, consultant, trainer and author with a decade of experience working with Fortune 500 companies and tech startups. She helps develop people and increase performance and productivity as a diversity, equity, and inclusion consultant.

Martine Kalaw, a stateless and undocumented survivor, grew up navigating through a number of different communities. As a result, she was able to gain an understanding of different perspectives, which inspired her to create her own enterprise, Martine Kalau Enterprises. Here, she focuses on making diversity, equity and inclusion more accessible in the workplace. Martine realized that those in marginalized communities often feel a deep loss of dignity and aloneness, so she encourages them to build a team of resources to help empower them. This team should include a mental health practitioner, a technical assistant, a mentor, an ally, and the right attorney. Through her work and her book, she focuses on providing resources for those in marginalized communities and upskilling managers to understand the power and influence they have in

In this episode, you will learn the following:

1. What strategies can be used to make diversity, equity, and inclusion accessible in the workplace?

2. What is the importance of having a team of support to empower individuals in marginalized communities?

3. How can managers use their influence to create a sense of belonging and access in the workplace?

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Our guest on today's show is Martine Kalaw. Martine is a speaker, a consultant, a trainer, and an author. She brings more than a decade of professional experience working with Fortune 500 companies and tech startups. She'll be speaking about leadership around diversity, equity, and inclusion with an emphasis on belonging.

[00:01:45]

Martine Kalaw was born in Zambia and his family is from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. He spent seven years in removal proceedings, deportation proceedings. Now he's created Martine Kalaw Enterprises to support human resources professionals in making diversity, equity and inclusion accessible in the workplace.

[00:06:03]

The author has a book that provides more tools for individuals who are undocumented or stateless. She says the first thing is get a team. Second is having a technical assistant, a mentor, an ally. Third is having the right attorney who builds you up and is your advocate.

[00:14:12]

Dei: I felt like these conversations around diversity, equity and inclusion are going way over people's heads. The bridge is human resources and managers. Dei: The way that you make it accessible is through upskilling managers.

[00:21:17]

Martine: Why should companies do more than just appear inclusive? She says bottom line is really the compelling factor. To appeal to the market that you're trying to appeal to, you need a whole team. This really becomes a business imperative if your sales numbers are down.

[00:29:05]

LZ: How can we have companies and organizations that really create places of belonging at work? LZ: It really starts with human resources or the equivalent working with managers to incorporate that into their management development. Building of trust is what allows people to start to feel like they belong in the organization.

[00:35:06]

There are little things that we can do as managers to establish a sense of belonging. Consider this for many of us, we work at organizations that are global. And acknowledging those little things is part of building inclusion. It's certainly now where employee retention is causing us to have to rethink.

[00:42:04]

The World of Difference podcast is all about acknowledging the differences among us and bringing those to the table. People from different marginalized spaces experience different biases, different ways in the workplace. By asking a question, managers can start to acknowledge how each person is different.

[00:47:32]

We're about to head into Black History Month in the United States. Do you often find that people make assumptions about you, that your black history is kind of a particular way? And is that a conversation that's been challenging for you to navigate at all?

[00:54:30]

Start with compensation and equity and all of those things. That's much more powerful than these grander gestures. If we could make that go forward this year Black History Month, it would be a gift to all of us.

[00:56:09]

Martin: I found myself connecting with parts of Martin's story, even though I have not lived anything close to her life. Martin: It's important in the aspect of creating empathy, which is one of the strategies around diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. Please follow her writing and her work and reach out to her for consulting.

[00:58:03]

Diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging are real key to the attrition rate right now. Companies doing this well are doing a better job at retaining employees, making better decisions. Martine Kalaw can come in and consult with your organization to help you grow and do better.

[00:59:30]

Michael Fosberg will talk to us about his story where he was a 32 year old man who had been raised to believe he was white, and at 32 years old realized he is black. We're going to talk about the conversation of race as a social construct here during Black History Month.

Martine Kalaw is the CEO and president of Martine Kalaw Enterprises, LLC; a consultancy focused on learning & development, human resources, and diversity, equity & inclusion for corporations, organizations, and nonprofits. She holds a Master’s in Public Administration focusing on immigration law from Syracuse University’s Maxwell School and has authored two books, Illegal Among Us: A Stateless Woman’s Quest for Citizenship and The ABCs of Diversity: A Managers Guide to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. As an organizational development expert, Martine has single-handedly built and executed onboarding solutions, management and leadership programs, global mentorship programs consisting of 400+ employees, and designed and customized training for Macy’s, Xaxis, Wheels Up, and Education First. Martine transforms the implicit biases of working professionals and leads “heavy” conversations related to race and legal status. She specifically focuses on unconscious beliefs towards blacks and immigrants through workshops and seminars while also equipping companies with training to up-skill new managers. Martine partners with global professionals to implement learning and workforce development strategies and solutions incorporating race and biases, manager training, and inter/intra department communication. Her soft skills curriculum is popular with late-stage startups experiencing pangs due to a merger, an acquisition, exponential growth, or a sudden reduction in business.

A passionate DE&I consultant, Martine has written for publications like Huffington Post and has delivered a TEDx talk on immigration policies as they relate to equity and inclusion. She’s also appeared on C-span.

Outside of her work, Martine contributes thought leadership around immigration reform. She’s spoken at Senator McCain’s 2006 Town Hall Rally on Immigration and the U.S. House of Representative’s Judiciary Subcommittee’s 2007 hearing on Immigration Reform. Her story has appeared in USA Today, Metro New York, and The New York Sun. Martine is also the founder and executive director of Stateless and Dreamers Foundation (SAD), which she created after her seven-year battle with the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which eventually led to her U.S. citizenship. SAD provides guidance and practical tools that stateless persons and undocumented immigrants can use to navigate between lawyers and the courts more effectively.

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Dr. Wade Mullen is the author of Something’s Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse – and Freeing Yourself From Its Power.

Dr. Mullen is a world renowned expert on abuse in the church. He served ten years in pastoral ministry and then five years as a seminary M.Div. program director and assistant professor before transitioning to full-time research and writing, consulting, speaking, and advocacy. Wade earned a Ph.D. in Leadership Studies and completed a dissertation titled “Impression Management Strategies Used by Evangelical Organizations in the Wake of an Image-threatening Event.” You can get that dissertation for free here.

  • He founded Pellucid Consulting in the Fall of 2021 to provide consulting and independent assessment services for institutions.
  • He started a Substack Newsletter called Pellucid in the Fall of 2021 where I write about the ways in which deception is used to abuse and cover up abuse and how leaders and institutions can act with integrity and speak truthfully. The content is free, but there are also paid options for those who want to support my work.
  • He speaks on occasion at events related to the subject of abuse and institutional response and participates as a guest on podcasts. You can listen to the podcasts here.
  • He continues to engage in research efforts to better understand abuse within Christian cultures and institutions. I’m currently working on preparing a manuscript for a second book.
  • He has also been serving when needed as an institutional response specialist with GRACE since 2020, assisting them primarily with institutional assessments.

Wade's work in the local church first introduced him to the needs of abuse victims and the potential for institutional betrayal and trauma when those who are supposed to protect the victim(s) choose to protect the abuser(s). He also learned the challenge of advocating from within and how to confront the system when necessary.

His personal story is told in a profile piece by Sojourner’s Magazine and in a talk he gave at the Restore conference in Chicago.

Resources Dr. Mullen mentioned:

  1. Meeting the Ethical Challenges of Leadership by Craig E. Johnson
  2. Blind to Betrayal: Why We Fool Ourselves We Aren't Being Fooled by Jennifer Freyd
  3. Narcissm and the Systems it Breeds video of Dr. Diane Langberg's presentation
  4. When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGroat
  5. A Church Called TOV by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer
  6. Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Dr. Diane Langberg
  7. Suffering and the Heart of God by Dr. Diane Langberg
  8. Stalking the Soul: Emotional Abuse and the Erosion of Identity by Marie-France Hirigoyen
  9. The Verbally Abusive Relationship by Patricia Evans
  10. Is Nothing Sacred? The Story of a Pastor, the Women He Sexually Abused and the Church He Nearly Destroyed by Marie M. Fortune
  11. Whispering Truth to Power: Everyday Resistance to Reconciliation in Postgenocide Rwanda by Susan Thomson

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In this podcast episode Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse and betrayal at Echo.Church and Saddleback Church, while remaining hopeful that God will bring restoration, reconciliation and resurrection through their courageous testimony.

Lori Adams-Brown and Jason Adams-Brown are a married couple who share their story of working at Echo.Church in Silicon Valley in order to protect the vulnerable and call out the wolves among us.

Please consider signing the petition by Echo Survivors to release former staff at Echo.church from NDAs so they can share their stories and heal. As of this uploading, 1,329 people have signed in support of this NDA free plea. Go to: https://www.change.org/echochurchNDA

Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself.

"We still hold on to hope and have faith that God can bring restoration, reconciliation, resurrection out of this horrible, awful mess. We believe our brothers, Andy and Felipe, both are behaving very badly. And I wish they hadn't behaved so badly in front of me because then I wouldn't have anything to say. But unfortunately, they did on more than one occasion. And we've not given up on our brothers, and it's because we believe that change can happen and should happen

Lori Adams-Brown and Jason Adams-Brown are a married couple who share their story of working at Echo Church in Silicon Valley in order to protect the vulnerable and call out the wolves among us.

Lori and Jason Adams-Brown had a strong faith and were dedicated to their work in Singapore, but a change in circumstances forced them to make a difficult decision. After weeks of prayer and fasting, they received a Zoom call offering them two jobs at Echo Church. Lori didn't want the job, but Andy assured her they'd fight for her, and she felt God was speaking to her. Though it was not her heart's desire, they accepted the job in obedience and were soon thrown into a whirlwind of abuse and betrayal. Though they suffered, they still held on to hope that God would bring restoration and reconciliation.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How did Jason and Lori Adams-Brown end up working on the Echo Church staff?

  2. How does the story of Echo Church and Saddleback Church illustrate spiritual abuse?

  3. How does God use suffering to bring about restoration and reconciliation?

Resources:

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Other episodes you'll enjoy:

Part 2, Our Story

Dr. Wade Mullen on Spiritual Abuse

Jenai Auman on Spiritual Abuse

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[00:00:01]

Lori Adams-Brown and her husband Jason share their story of working at Echo.Church in Silicon Valley. They hope to call out the wolves among us so that we can help warn the sheep and also help these wolves get the help that they need. We're not going to share it all at once.

[00:01:37]

We believe our brothers, Andy and Filipe, both are behaving very badly. And so I would just hope people would consider that just to listen with an open heart and open mind. We still hold on to hope that God can bring restoration, reconciliation, resurrection out of this horrible, awful mess.

[00:07:08]

Jason and Lori came to Echo Church while on a stateside assignment in 2017, 2018. Originally wanted to partner with Echo Church and Andy and Filipe and start a church in Singapore. When circumstances changed, Echo.Church offered Lori and Jason jobs.

[00:17:05]

We loved the work that we're doing. There was still more work to be done. I took this role because I knew it was what God wanted. It ended up being a lot of suffering in that journey. But I still stand by the fact that God led us to do this.

[00:18:48]

Lori's main question for Andy in her interview process was what do you believe about spiritual authority. After arriving at Echo.Church, she realized Andy had a very different view of authority.

[00:24:01]

Lori: I've never worked on a staff at a church. There was just so much more of a higher level of stress that I noticed on those that were working at the campus level. The biggest red flags early on where I started to think something's not right.

[00:28:08]

As people who've walked through spiritual abuse, part of the way we heal is to tell our stories. Just you listening today is really a part of just helping us heal. We've done a lot of healing, but with this kind of thing it just takes time.

[00:35:55]

When COVID hit, there was a constant push against Dr. Sarah Cody's lockdown. Andy was constantly pushing against her regulations. In some ways, it felt like the art of pastoring was something I was having to carry a lot of the load for with so many of the Sunnyvale campus's needs during lockdown.

[00:44:39]

Jason: My role was more in helping other churches do outreach. Now looking back, the motivation behind all that was not about loving the community. It was about trying to groom other smaller churches that might then recognize we could merge with them.

[00:48:03]

Within a month of arriving at Echo, staff they were told you would get fired for gossiping. Contagious joy was one of the values, and it was used like a weapon. Lori: It was more like work related conversations I was afraid to have. Looking back, I am ashamed that I was that naive.

[00:54:32]

Andy Wood came into the SLT meeting in summer of 2020, with a new strategy of "driving two cars," the digital car and the socially distanced outdoor services car. "How is it possible to drive two cars?," Lori asked. This was the question. From then on, things have never, ever been the same.

Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part one of their story: The Calm Before the Storm.

Part 2: The Question

Part 3: The Gaslighting and the Flanking

Part 4: The Firing Squad

Part 5: Image Management & Discrediting the Whistleblower

Part 6: Disaster Relief & False Narratives

Open Letter by Gabriel Beddingfield to Echo.church

Open Letter by Echo Survivors to Echo.church

Religion News article by Bob Smietana

Julie Roys's 2nd article

Julie Roys's 1st article

Julie Roys's article after NDA petition reached 700 signatures

Julie Roys's article about the predatory nature of Echo.church's "merges"

Julie Roys's article on the pattern of retaliation

Religion News article on NDAs (that mentions Andy Wood and the Saddleback situation) by Katelyn Beaty, author of Celebrities for Jesus

Lori's appearance as a guest on Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast with Corey Nathan.

Lori's Linktree for more articles and updates

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In Dele Downs Kooley's military family, Christmas traditions are reinvented every couple of years, from reindeer food to Snoop on the Stoop. Despite being told single mothers couldn't start over, she took a huge risk to relocate with $1,500 and forged a path to a six-figure income.

"I chose not to listen to the stories that we tell ourselves, that society tells us, that condition us to not want more. I chose to create a plan, measure my progress against it, and build the life of my dreams." - Dele Downs Kooley

Dele Downs Kooley is a life and leadership coach, certified coach, and author of Inspiring Women Professionals Who Boss Up. She brings 20 years of experience from her Air Force family, Department of Defense, and three law enforcement agencies to her work.

Dele had been tasked with taking a huge risk; leaving her 20 year marriage with $1,500 and her daughter, uprooting her life and starting fresh. She had a goal and a plan, and despite the fear and the doubt from those around her, she followed it. After months of hard work, she managed to find a job, make a home for her family and build a life of her dreams. She had to adjust her plan many times, but her ambition and resilience allowed her to overcome all obstacles. Taking the risk was the best decision she ever made.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

  1. How did a blended family, with a Jamaican-born mother, manage to move and create traditions around the world?

  2. How did the speaker create a plan to start over with $1,500 and no job prospects?

  3. How did the speaker manage to defy industry math and reimagine her career to earn a living wage?

Resources:

https://delekooleycoaching.com/

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Doni Aldine on Third Culture Kids

Martine Kalaw on Being a Stateless Immigrant, DEI and Corporations

Jake Sasseville on Moving to Costa Rica to Start a Retreat Center

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[00:00:02]

A World of Difference is a podcast for those who are different and want to make a difference. Deli Downs Kooley is a life coach and leadership coach. She's here on the show today to talk about her personal journey.

[00:02:01]

This year, all of the children will be home for the holidays. The family has added snoop on the stoop to their collection. The kids hide their own snoop dogs and go about the day trying to find them. For many, it's a gift to be able to take some time off and enjoy family.

[00:04:31]

I'm Jamaican by birth. I was born in Jamaica. And moved to Kansas, of all places. Grew up in international schools, and so did my husband. We spent 20 years raising our family in Southeast Asia. Love it. Military family.

[00:06:22]

Author of book, inspiring Women Professionals Who Boss Up. Her story starts with $1,500.04 suitcases and one girl. She left her 20 year marriage with the biggest risk she's ever taken. Would recommend the book to anyone looking to inspire a young woman or an ally.

[00:14:48]

The author was told she wouldn't be able to start over when she moved to the U.S. Nine years later, she has remarried and her family is thriving. What inspired her to write the book? The people who took a chance on her.

[00:23:55]

I'd been offered many jobs where I could work at a higher level, a higher capacity, but my pay wouldn't increase. So I started thinking again about what might a different life look like. How could I reimagine my career again in a way that serves me well?

[00:26:42]

Did you find that there was bias around you as a woman? Was there a motherhood penalty that you feel like you faced? As a single mom in particular, there's the single mom tax that works against single parents. When you're open and transparent, your working relationships are much better because of it.

[00:33:45]

Research shows men are seen for their potential and women have to show all the experience and sometimes double the experience. As women, be more open and honest about your aspirations. Be clear about what you want. When you are, it's much easier to find sponsors.

[00:43:08]

Sometimes our energy is on the things that we have absolutely no control over. Instead, focus on what we do have control over, our plan. If you're focused on the outcome, then you don't get tripped up in the details.

[00:53:34]

Every job I've ever had was because I knew someone. It's the who you know, that makes such a difference. There's more than one way to connect to the hiring managers resources for jobs that you're interested in.

[00:56:20]

The bias that impacts women, single moms, first generation, all of those things. Deli Downs is running a New Year's special, Career Catalyst, where she has a coaching package that is currently 60% off of my coaching rates. How can you accelerate your progress in 2023 and beyond?

[01:01:39]

She's someone who's overcome some adversity and found some handles on how to walk through that. Please reach out to her for coaching. Read her book, glean from her wisdom and her years of experience both abroad and back in her home country.

[01:03:04]

I know many of you have made some New Year's resolutions. I have my own board of advisors, so to speak, of people I've brought around me. The end of the year and the beginning of a new year is the chance to kind of reset some things. Let us know what you're saying goodbye to from last year.

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Dele Downs Kooley (sounds like Deli) is the master of the pivot and your fast pass to the front of the line! She has a diverse background complements of her 20 year adventure as an Air Force family member and Department of Defense civilian, working at three law enforcement agencies, and navigating corporate America at some of the largest names in the business. Her career roles centered on communications, training, finance, program management, and leadership & development. Dele gives to her community through her roles as President of the Board of Directors for No More Under, a non-profit focused on drowning prevention; and sits on the Board of the Leader Transition Institute, a non-profit focused on military transition assistance. She has most recently added the title of author to her list of accomplishments with the December launch of her book project along with other authors: Inspiring Women Professionals Who BossUp: Learning the Ways of Women on the Rise Making an Impact

As a certified Leadership + life coach, she uses the lessons she learned along the way to help herclients find clarity on the life they want to live, create intentional pivots, and how to achieve their goals as quickly as possible. She speaks often on the topics of personal development, career transitions, mentoring, resilience, Diversity & Inclusion, and inclusive hiring at companies such as Amazon, Expedia Group, Microsoft, the Women in Tech Regatta, and The Bicycle Leadership Conference.

Dele's superpower is networking and connecting people to create magic! When not working or coaching her clients to create the life of their dreams this busy mother of five can be found outside enjoying the Pacific Northwest or at a live sporting event with her family.

Dele Downs Kooley

Founder, CEO; Dele Kooley Coaching

(425) 628-8495

ddownskooley@microsoft.com

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How Women Rise is a book Delle mentioned that impacted her.


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Bette Dickinson is a prophetic artist, writer, and speaker who invites audiences to connect with God through visual parables of the spiritual journey in her ministry Awakening the Soul. Bette earned her MDiv through Grand Rapids Theological Seminary and has worked with ministries like InterVarsity, World Vision, Infinitum, and Kensington Church to awaken the soul through beauty and wonder. Bette and her husband live in Traverse City Michigan with their two boys.

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Bette's book is: Making Room in Advent: 25 Devotions for a Season of Wonder


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Jenai Auman (pronounced jih-nEYE Ah-mun) is a Filipina American writer & artist in living in Houston, TX who writes on hope and faith for outcasts & misfits. Her work currently focuses on the woes of spiritual abuse and religious trauma in the church.

Her recent writing and drawing on Advent for those who find themselves trying to make sense of a Western church riddled with abuse of power in its various forms, brings her to the podcast this week to share how her own journey has led her to walk alongside others in the sense-making of this moment in church history.

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Planning a Restorative Retreat in 2023?

Jake Sasseville, CEO of Imiloa Institute, tells us about his restorative retreat center in Costa Rica. (Use PROMO CODE below for discount.)

Jake was born in Lewiston, Maine, Jake's dad was a social worker, and his mother was a substitute teacher. When he was sixteen, he left Maine to travel abroad to France by himself to do a year abroad in high school.

At seventeen, he learned early on about life’s private struggles: his thirteen-year brother died of leukemia and his father was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease in the same year. As a result, Sasseville has been known to be a sensitive, steadfast and resilient entrepreneur and leader, often choosing pioneering paths instead of roads frequently traveled.

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Sasseville is currently the CEO and Founder of Imiloa Institute in Costa Rica. Imiloa is described as a home and experience where human beings are invited to awaken their consciousness in service to themselves and the planet. The Institute hosts 50 retreats a year.

Imiloa’s clients range from yoga teachers to the United Nations and the Beckley Foundation. In addition, the Institute also hosts a variety of retreats on topics from meditation to art, sexuality, epigenetics, and health. Sasseville and his team have transitioned to Imiloa with the goal of attracting hosts that provide an evidence-based or scientific-based approach to transformation.

Besides enjoying an 86% re-booking rate and becoming profitable for the first time in its history fourteen months after Jake stepped in as CEO, Imiloa has become known for its leadership style -- the team is unified behind the philosophy of causing individual and social transformation of the planet by leading from a spirit of service and a posture of learning.

Television and Entertainment Career

Jake started his career in Maine as one of the youngest magicians admitted to the Society of American Magicians when he was just thirteen. He did hundreds of stage and close-up shows around the United States before graduating high school.

At twenty-one, he created, executive produced, and hosted The Edge with Jake Sasseville, a late-night reality-talk show that debuted February 14, 2008, on ABC after Jimmy Kimmel Live! Jake was the youngest host in late-night TV history for the show he created, and one of the youngest heads of a production company ever. The show pioneered the reality-talk genre, creating a “show within a late-night talk show” and often beat its rival late-night shows in key markets, including Conan O’Brien and Craig Ferguson.

Sasseville was known for his avant-garde approach to innovative business, fortifying public relationships with Ford, Overstock.com, Red Bull, Coca-Cola, P&G, Crocs, and many other brands who creatively funded his projects and accessed his growing “Gen Y” audience.

From 2008-2010, Sasseville created the “Pringles Xtreme Campus Music Tour.” The music toured went to 30 of the largest universities yearly, featuring the next “it” acts in music, including Kanye West, One Republic, Fabulous, and J. Cole, among others.

From 2010-2012 when he was twenty-five, Jake created and launched Late Night Republic, an innovative TV series on Fox and CW and one of the first “crowd-sourced” late-night TV shows. The show enjoyed a 102-week run.

Sasseville developed, executive produced, and co-wrote Delusions of Grandeur for ABC Family. The sitcom, dealing on topics of mental illness and loosely based on Jake’s life, was too much for the Disney-owned network and they canceled the show before it aired its first episode. Delusions went on to be downloaded 2.5 million times on the online network Blip.tv (acquired by Maker Studios).

He was honored by the White House and the Kauffman Foundation in 2012 as one of the most impactful startup entrepreneurs in the United States.

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His first book, Slightly Famous, chronicles Jake’s life from age twenty-one to twenty-five with his groundbreaking approach to content creation, audience building, TV syndication, and business acumen. He also writes candidly about his private struggles, spiritual curiosities and dysfunctional family life.

After his house got washed away in Hurricane Sandy, Jake’s life and business took a reset. He retreated to Maine and spent two years (originally supposed to be one month) in Grandma’s Basement. He realized the way he was living life was untenable, often vying for success and ruining valuable relationships along the way. As a result, entered a tweleve-step program of recovery and went through what he now calls a “Dark Night of the Soul.”

Podcast

At twenty-nine, after two years in Maine and serving alongside the Baha’i Community in his hometown, finding purpose in surrender and taking action instead of hustling, he went on to create The Jake Sasseville Show, a podcast which he famously produced from a Dunkin Donuts parking lot “because grandma didn’t have internet.”

After just twelve episodes, The Jake Sasseville Show grew to a listenership of 250,000 per month in the early days of podcasting. Known for his heartfelt and boisterous conversation-interview style, the show did theme-based shows with grandsons of revolutionaries (Nelson Mandela and Arun Ghandi), authors of best-selling books, Grammy- and Emmy-winning entertainers, and guests that would not normally talk on podcasts (Beyonce’s publicist, Yvette Noel-Schure, and the CEO of Overstock.com, Stormy Simon).

Sasseville moved to Maui and rented out his cottage in his backyard on Airbnb, getting the idea of Imiloa Institute in the main home. As he’s said publicly, Airbnb was paying his living expenses. He used his main home to welcome “friends and friends of friends.”

Sasseville went on to say that he realized that human beings want to feel at home in their transformation.

“Rwandan genocide survivors came to write their book in my home, stage IV cancer patients would come to heal… everyone came to that Maui house.”

In 2018, he and his former business partner (and former CEO of Imiloa) raised $3.5 million for the first Imiloa. The location was Costa Rica for what was envisioned as an “intercontinental institute for the education and advancement of humanity.”

Although his two partners (CEO and COO) stepped down from the company during the pandemic, Jake stepped in as CEO (despite being happy as the company’s CMO) and drove the company to profitability in fourteen months. Imiloa was one of the only hospitality businesses not to shut down or furlough an employee during Covid.

Sasseville lives in Costa Rica, where he enjoys friends, practicing Ashtanga yoga, working closely with Imiloa’s leadership team, traveling to sit in tea ceremonies with mentors and friends, and watching old TV shows from the 50s and 60s.

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Karen González is a speaker, writer, storyteller, and immigrant advocate, who herself immigrated from Guatemala as a child. Karen is a former public school teacher and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. For the last 15 years, she has been a non-profit professional. She wrote a book about her own immigration story and some of the immigrants found in the Bible: The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong (Herald Press, May 2019). Karen’s second book is Beyond Welcome: Centering Immigrants in our Christian Response to Immigration (Brazos Press, October 2022). She also has bylines in Sojourners, Christianity Today, The Christian Century, and others. Karen is the co-host of the Latina-focused podcast Cafe with Comadres. She lives in Baltimore, MD with her cat Oscar.

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Mekdes Haddis is a sought after Millennial African Missiologist and thought leader whose voice is challenging the Church to undo its “missions as usual” ethos. Her work is a clarion call to redefine missions from charity giving to disciple making and justice seeking.

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Mekdes Haddis is the founder and executive coach of Just Missions, an online community that elevates diaspora voices and equips Western allies to become mutual partners for the work of the gospel. Originally from Ethiopia, she moved to the United States in 2003 and earned a BS in communications from Liberty University and a master's degree in organizational leadership from Columbia International University. She is also the project director of the Racial Justice and Reconciliation Collaborative for the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE).

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https://wadetmullen.com/ (Dr. Wade Mullen) is the author ofhttps://amzn.to/3DqPqLm ( Something’s Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse – and Freeing Yourself From Its Power). Dr. Mullen is a world renowned expert on abuse in the church. He served ten years in pastoral ministry and then five years as a seminary M.Div. program director and assistant professor before transitioning to full-time research and writing, consulting, speaking, and advocacy. Wade earned a Ph.D. in Leadership Studies and completed a dissertation titled “Impression Management Strategies Used by Evangelical Organizations in the Wake of an Image-threatening Event.” You can get that dissertation for free https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rXrd8MYay5Vg5s7JXFx7S91hDTlm1CVX/view (here). He founded Pellucid Consulting in the Fall of 2021 to provide consulting and independent assessment services for institutions. He started a Substack Newsletter called https://wademullen.substack.com/ (Pellucid) in the Fall of 2021 where I write about the ways in which deception is used to abuse and cover up abuse and how leaders and institutions can act with integrity and speak truthfully. The content is free, but there are also paid options for those who want to support my work. He speaks on occasion at events related to the subject of abuse and institutional response and participates as a guest on podcasts. You can listen to the podcasts https://wadetmullen.com/interviews/ (here). He continues to engage in research efforts to better understand abuse within Christian cultures and institutions. I’m currently working on preparing a manuscript for a second book. He has also been serving when needed as an institutional response specialist with https://www.netgrace.org/ (GRACE) since 2020, assisting them primarily with institutional assessments.

Wade's work in the local church first introduced him to the needs of abuse victims and the potential for institutional betrayal and trauma when those who are supposed to protect the victim(s) choose to protect the abuser(s). He also learned the challenge of advocating from within and how to confront the system when necessary.  His personal story is told in a profile piece by https://sojo.net/magazine/november-2019/how-we-let-abuse-thrive (Sojourner’s Magazine) and in a talk he gave at the https://churchleaders.com/news/379648-wade-mullen-spiritual-abuse.html (Restore conference in Chicago). Resources Dr. Mullen mentioned: https://amzn.to/3h3W9mP (Meeting the Ethical Challenges of Leadership) by Craig E. Johnson https://amzn.to/3WhB5JP (Blind to Betrayal: Why We Fool Ourselves We Aren't Being Fooled) by Jennifer Freyd https://youtu.be/4BU3pwBa0qU (Narcissm and the Systems it Breeds) video of Dr. Diane Langberg's presentation https://amzn.to/3h4NvnV (When Narcissism Comes to Church) by Dr. Chuck DeGroat https://amzn.to/3h2HFUg (A Church Called TOV) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3DrCkxe (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberg https://amzn.to/3TbMhoB (Suffering and the Heart of God) by Dr. Diane Langberg https://amzn.to/3zAaTA5 (Stalking the Soul: Emotional Abuse and the Erosion of Identity) by Marie-France Hirigoyen https://amzn.to/3TYlxJk (The Verbally Abusive Relationship) by Patricia Evans https://amzn.to/3h5zc2N (Is Nothing Sacred? The Story of a Pastor, the Women He Sexually Abused and the Church He Nearly Destroyed) by Marie M. Fortune https://amzn.to/3sPd6UF (Whispering Truth to Power: Everyday Resistance to Reconciliation in Postgenocide Rwanda) by Susan Thomson

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Michelle Ferrigno Warren is the president and CEO of https://michelleferrignowarren.com/viragostrategies/ (Virago Strategies), a consulting firm for civic engagement campaigns impacting poor communities. The author of The Power of Proximity, she cofounded http://odmdenver.org/ (Open Door Ministries), a community development 501(c)(3) corporation in downtown Denver, to address poverty, addiction, and homelessness through social programs. Michelle has been working in Christian community development for twenty-nine years utilizing her skills as an educator, worship leader, non-profit manager, public policy specialist, and faith-rooted activist. With policy expertise in economic justice and human service issues, she has served as advocacy and strategic engagement director for the http://www.ccda.org/ (Christian Community Development Association) and done coalition work with the https://immigrationforum.org/ (National Immigration Forum). Michelle is a senior fellow with the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Institute and adjunct faculty at Denver Seminary.  Michelle's advocacy work has been featured in local Colorado markets like The Denver Post and Colorado Public Radio as well as national Christian and secular media outlets like The New York Times, The L.A. Times, PBS News Hour, Christianity Today, CBN, WORLD magazine, Sojourners, and numerous others. She holds a bachelor's degree in mathematics from Cedarville University and a master's in public administration from the University of Colorado. She and her husband live in Denver's Westside neighborhood and have three adult children.  Visit her website at https://michelleferrignowarren.com/ (michelleferrignowarren.com). Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mcfwarren (@mcfwarren). Her latest book is: https://www.ivpress.com/join-the-resistance (Join the Resistance: Step into the Good Work of Kingdom Justice) https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4tjdQpSJaZvZWkgwm8kxu9?si=3e489bb5c2f24af9 (Her Spotify Playlist) that Michelle mentioned.


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Winfield Bevins is an internationally recognized author, teacher, and coach. He is director of Church Planting at https://asburyseminary.edu/ (Asbury Theological Seminary) and co-founder of https://healthyrhythms.org/ (Healthy Rhythms Coaching), which is a global online coaching and training platform to help leaders thrive. He has helped train leaders in over twenty nations and six continents. He frequently speaks at conferences, seminaries, and universities on a variety of topics. He has a doctorate from Southeastern Seminary and is finishing a PhD program at Aberdeen University. His writing and research explores the intersection of tradition, innovation, and the future of the church. He is the author of several books including https://www.amazon.com/Liturgical-Mission-Work-People-World/dp/1514001543/ref=sr_1_9?crid=2XTXBFZ4D9QOE&keywords=winfield+bevins&qid=1647043302&sprefix=winfield+bevins%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-9 (Liturgical Mission: The Work of the People for the Sake of the World )(InterVarsity Press, 2022) ,https://www.amazon.com/Ever-Ancient-New-Liturgy-Generation/dp/0310566134/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3DIXV8F8HMFMO&keywords=winfield+bevins&qid=1642549661&sprefix=winfield+b%2Caps%2C106&sr=8-3 (Ever Ancient Ever New: The Allure of Liturgy for a New Generation) (Zondervan, 2019) and https://www.amazon.com/Marks-Movement-Church-Wesleyan-Revival/dp/0310098351/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3DIXV8F8HMFMO&keywords=winfield+bevins&qid=1642549661&sprefix=winfield+b%2Caps%2C106&sr=8-2 (Marks of a Movement) (Zondervan, 2019). Winfield’s work has been featured in various outlets such as Christianity Today, Publishers Weekly, Outreach Magazine, and Religious News Service. Winfield is also an award winning artist. Over the past decade, he has helped start numerous arts initiatives, including a non-profit art gallery and studio.In 2021, he was commissioned to paint an icon for the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew in honor of his visit to the USA. He is the resident artist for https://www.drinklings.coffee/ (Drinklings Coffee). He and his wife Kay have three beautiful girls Elizabeth, Anna Belle, and Caroline and live in the Bluegrass state of Kentucky. When he is not teaching or writing, you’ll likely find him hiking, kayaking or painting.


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https://www.dorothygreco.com/ (Dorothy Littell Greco) is an author, photojournalist, writer, and marriage coach. Dorothy feels equally at home speaking in front of hundreds or standing behind her camera without saying a word. Her words and images offer hope and encouragement to those longing for healing, reconciliation, and joy. Her writing has been featured in Christianity Today, Missio Alliance, MOPs, Relevant Magazine, Christians for Biblical Equality, The Mudroom, Sojourners, Biola Center for Marriage and Family, Christine Cain’s Propel for Women, Perennial Generation, Patheos, and The Englewood Review of Books. http://www.dorothygreco.com/my-book/ (Making Marriage Beautiful), herr first book, was published by David C Cook in January of 2017. Her second book, https://www.ivpress.com/marriage-in-the-middle (Marriage in the Middle), was published by InterVarsity Press in September of 2020. Past and present photography clients include: The National Geographic, New England Home Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Boston Globe, Yankee Magazine, Mass General Hospital, Harvard University, Boston University, Knopf Publishers, Lexington Christian Academy, Boston Trinity Academy, Arnold Arboretum, Houghton Mifflin, and many more. I have won several awards from Communication Arts Photography Annual and National Press Photographers. She is a graduate of Boston University and a member of https://redbudwritersguild.com/ (Redbud Writers’ Guild) and the https://thepelicanproject.com/ (Pelican Project). She has been married to Christopher for 31 years, and they have three grown sons and two amazing daughters-in-law. She loves walking on beaches, traveling, seeing great theater, and kayaking. She also enjoy spending time with friends and figuring out how to make awesome paleo meals. She joins us to talk about restoring marriage to the mutuality it was intended to be. Enter to win one of 2 copies of each of Dororthy's books in the giveaway! Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr)Other EPS mentioned in this podcast: https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s3e49 (EPS 49 Dr. Mimi Haddad) (CEO of https://www.cbeinternational.org/ (Christians for Biblical Equality)) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e31 (EPS 31 Dr. Graham Hill) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e21 (EPS 23 Kate Wallace Nunneley) of the https://juniaproject.com/ (Junia Project) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e30 (EPS 30 Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer)

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https://www.angieward.net/ (Dr. Angie Ward), the general editor of https://mediacenter.tyndale.com/p/kingdom-and-country/9781641584135 (Kingdom and Country: Following Jesus in the Land that You Love) (book two in the Kingdom Conversations series), is a leadership author and teacher with nearly thirty years of experience in church, parachurch, and Christian higher education ministry. Angie is known for her genuine love for those in ministry, her down-to-earth style, and her unique ability to see and explain complex concepts and systems. Angie is an award-winning regular contributor to Christianity Today leadership publications and holds a PhD in Ministry Leadership from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. She currently serves as assistant director of the Doctor of Ministry program at Denver Seminary. Her latest book is: Kingdom and Country: Following Jesus in the Land that You Love The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (Facebook group). We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Coaching Sept 22 Want to get unstuck and make a difference? Go to loriadamsbrown.com/coachnig for a free exploratory session. Patreon Support us at Patreon.com/aworldofdifference for as little as $5 a month and get exclusive audio and free merch!

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse, especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part six of their story. Please listen to parts one to four on EPS 100-104 for context. Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church: https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/opinion-rick-warren-sermon-mars-hill-reveals-ignorance-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 6th article) (9/8/22 about the Rick Warren- Mark Driscoll- Andy Wood connection based on Rick's sermon) https://julieroys.com/echo-church-defends-ndas-petition-gains-700-signatures/ (Julie Roys's 5th article) (about Echo.church's email on 9/2/22 after the petition to release NDAs at Echo.church garnered nearly 700 signatures) https://julieroys.com/incoming-saddleback-pastor-retaliate-baptist-group-broker-deals/ (Julie Roys's 4th article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Articles where a couple of the many other Echo Survivors have spoken to journalists: https://religionnews.com/2022/06/12/saddleback-backs-rick-warren-successor-despite-allegations-andy-wood-echo-church/ (Religion News Service) (Bob Smietana speaks to Lance Hough) https://churchleaders.com/news/426653-saddleback-church-clears-rick-warrens-successor-of-allegations-of-abusive-leadership-style-former-echo-church-staffers-speak-out.html (Church Leaders article) (Dale Chamberlain speaks to Amy Street) https://www.christianpost.com/news/rick-warrens-saddleback-successor-triggers-shock-and-fear.html (Christian Post) (Lance Hough interviewed)


Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Find books and articles on https://linktr.ee/loriadamsbrown (Lori's linktree) The movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/ (Spotlight )features journalists reporting on the years of cover-up of abuse in the Catholic church. The TV show https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10166622/ (The Dropout) that reminds us

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse, especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part five of their story. Please listen to parts one to four on EPS 100-103 for context. Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church: https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/opinion-rick-warren-sermon-mars-hill-reveals-ignorance-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 6th article) (9/8/22 about the Rick Warren- Mark Driscoll- Andy Wood connection based on Rick's sermon) https://julieroys.com/echo-church-defends-ndas-petition-gains-700-signatures/ (Julie Roys's 5th article) (about Echo.church's email on 9/2/22 after the petition to release NDAs at Echo.church garnered nearly 700 signatures) https://julieroys.com/incoming-saddleback-pastor-retaliate-baptist-group-broker-deals/ (Julie Roys's 4th article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Find books and articles on https://linktr.ee/loriadamsbrown (Lori's linktree) The movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/ (Spotlight )features journalists reporting on the years of cover-up of abuse in the Catholic church. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroathttps://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberghttps://amzn.to/3CdMuTb...

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse, especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part one of their story. Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church: https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/echo-church-defends-ndas-petition-gains-700-signatures/ (Julie Roys's 5th article) (about Echo.church's email on 9/2/22 after the petition to release NDAs at Echo.church garnered nearly 700 signatures) https://julieroys.com/incoming-saddleback-pastor-retaliate-baptist-group-broker-deals/ (Julie Roys's 4th article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Find books and articles on https://linktr.ee/loriadamsbrown (Lori's linktree) The movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/ (Spotlight )features journalists reporting on the years of cover-up of abuse in the Catholic church. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroathttps://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberghttps://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding...

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part three of their story. (Please listen to parts one and two for context on this EPS.) Articles about the abusive environment at Echo.church: https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/incoming-saddleback-pastor-retaliate-baptist-group-broker-deals/ (Julie Roys's 4th article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article ) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroathttps://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberghttps://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power) by Dr. Wade Mullen* The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (Facebook group). We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of...

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part two of their story. (Please listen to part one for context on this EPS.) https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/saddleback-pastor-predatory-patternacquire-churches-baptist/ (Jule Roys's 3rd article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article ) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroathttps://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberghttps://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power) by Dr. Wade Mullen

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Trigger warning: If you have experienced spiritual abuse, emotional abuse, psychological abuse or any type of abuse especially in a faith-based environment, this episode deals with content that may be triggering. Please feel free to listen in small chunks or if this is too traumatizing, please feel free to not listen until you are ready. We do recommend speaking with a therapist who is trauma-informed. Please take good care of yourself. Lori and Jason Adams-Brown share their story of spiritual abuse, emotional abuse and psychological abuse at Echo.church in San Jose, CA at the hands of Andy Wood and Filipe Santos. Their story is by no means the worst story of abuse behind the curtain of Echo.church, but it is one that is not covered by the many NDA's that Andy and Filipe had many staff sign over the years in order to control the narrative and image manage the abuse of particular staff over the years. Many former staff have shared their stories, but due to fear of going public and also the many NDA's, there is much fear. This is part one of their story. https://religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/?fbclid=IwAR3ugPJIWduKP7iP0yDHvkR7H-eKOPPTXgkdw6WCcFYc084s_URmky4V5l8 (Religion News article) https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ (Julie Roys's 2nd article ) https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ (Julie Roys's 1st article) Lori's appearance as a guest on https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/loriadamsbrown/ (Talkin' Politiics and Religion Without Killin' Each Other podcast) with Corey Nathan. Books to read as resources:https://amzn.to/3QybWqS (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://amzn.to/3Pyi6pI (When Narcissm Comes to Church): https://www.amazon.com/When-Narcissism-Comes-Church-Community/dp/0830841598/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OHHBM3HJVQSM&keywords=when+narcissism+comes+to+church&qid=1660797100&s=books&sprefix=When+narci%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1 (Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) by Dr. Chuck DeGroat

https://amzn.to/3QOdXPq (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberg

https://amzn.to/3CdMuTb (Something's Not Right: )https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24BR6WJJ3P8X5&keywords=something%27s+not+right&qid=1660797227&s=books&sprefix=something%27s+not+righ%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-1 (Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse--and Freeing Yourself from Its Power) by Dr. Wade Mullen

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https://kevinmnye.com (Kevin Nye )works as the Housing Director of YouthLink MN in Minneapolis. He has worked in homeless services and advocacy Los Angeles, and is a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary. Kevin also writes on the intersections of theology, justice and equity, and pop culture.He was a contributing author for https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781978706156/Theology-and-the-Marvel-Universe (Theology and the Marvel Universe), and is the founder of https://theophanyframes.wordpress.com/ (Theophany), a blog and YouTube channel looking at the intersection of God and movies. His newly released (and sold out in several places already) book is https://amzn.to/3PhYJAY (Grace Can Lead Us Home): A Christian Call to End Homelessness. You can follow him on https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-nye-aa0846149/ (LinkedIn), https://www.facebook.com/kevinmnye (Facebook), and https://twitter.com/kevinmnye1 (Twitter)


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Happy 2nd Anniversary to the A World of Difference Podcast Community! You are a gift to this community and to the world around you. It has been a beautiful 2 years of growing and learning together. Thank you for listening and engaging with our episodes! Lori was recently asked by podcast host https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/steps-to-sobriety/id1521194219?i=1000563069596 (Dr. Stephan Neff), after being a guest on his podcast, to give 10 points in 10 minutes that she might share with someone such as at an airport waiting for a flight. Since many of you are flying right now, and traveling on trains, in cars and on buses, this was an opportunity for Lori to share her 10 points. She is offering it here as a gift to you on this 2nd anniversary. Mostly, though, we wanted it to spur on your creative juices for your own 10 points. How about we give gifts to each other by sharing our own 10 points. What would you say to someone if you had 10 minutes to share 10 life tips? So, hop on over to our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (A World of Difference podcast community group on Facebook), or add to the comments on ourhttps://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ ( Instagram), https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (Facebook )and https://twitter.com/AWODPod (Twitter )pages to share your 10 points with the rest of our community. We love to hear your perspectives!


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https://www.pauldavidmiller.com/ (Dr. Paul D. Miller )(PhD, Georgetown University) is a Christian scholar, political theorist, veteran, and former White House staffer, provides a detailed portrait of—and case against—Christian nationalism. Building on his practical expertise not only in the archives and classroom but also in public service, Miller unravels this ideology's historical importance, its key tenets, and its political, cultural, and spiritual implications. Dr. Miller is Professor of the Practice of International Affairs at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service and co-chair of the Global Politics and Security concentration. He spent a decade in public service as director for Afghanistan and Pakistan on the National Security Council staff, an intelligence analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency, and a military intelligence officer in the US Army. Miller’s writing has appeared in Foreign Affairs, The Dispatch, The Washington Post, Providence Magazine, Mere Orthodoxy, The Gospel Coalition, Foreign Policy, and elsewhere. He is the author of Just War and Ordered Liberty. His newly released book is https://amzn.to/3JdpTaE (The Religion of American Greatness: What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism). Follow Dr. Paul Miller on https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-d-miller-05386127/ (LinkedIn), https://twitter.com/PaulDMiller2 (Twitter,) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJWRYc7leC03-nPsLx6d6riuSQjUZVcjO (YouTube) & his https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awkward-conversations/id1459702697 (podcast).


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https://jjdigeronimo.com/ (JJ DiGeronimo) is an author, keynote speaker and founder She led global teams out of Silicon Valley at VMWare for 8 years and has been on several boards. She founded https://techsavvywomen.net/ (TechSavvy Women) almost 15 years ago. She offers wisdom about career, mindfulness, soul work and business. With two-award winning books, an international podcast, and action-based keynotes, JJ DiGeronimo shares career strategies with Women in Business to accelerate their next level of influence & impact.  She founded https://my.captivate.fm/www.TogetherWeSeek.Online (Together We Seek), a place for women to come together in a safe space to explore together. She provides insight, wisdom, and connection through her books and keynotes to unleash the wisdom within. Check out her books: https://amzn.to/3PFl10a (Accelerate Your Impact: Action-based Strategies to Pave Your Professional Path ) https://amzn.to/3RMqZOB (The Working Woman’s GPS, When the Plan to Have it All has Led You Astray) Her podcast is: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/career-strategies-for-women-that-work/id1543251599 (Career Strategies for Women that Work) Find her helpful career content on https://www.youtube.com/user/jjdigeronimo (You Tube)


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https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon), to help us all make a difference together. http://osguinness.com/ (Dr. Os Guinness )(DPhil, Oxford) is the author or editor of more than thirty-five books, including The Dust of Death, The Call, Fool's Talk, Carpe Diem Redeemed, The Magna Carta of Humanity, Last Call for Liberty, Impossible People, Unspeakable, and Time for Truth. He is the founder of the http://www.ttf.org/ (Trinity Forum), a prominent social critic, and a frequent speaker who has addressed audiences worldwide.  Born in China to missionary parents, he is the great-great-great-grandson of Arthur Guinness, the Dublin brewer. After witnessing the climax of the Chinese revolution in 1949, he was expelled with many other foreigners in 1951 and returned to England where he was educated and served as a freelance reporter with the BBC. Since coming to the U.S. in 1984, he has been a guest scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center for International Studies and a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution. He was the lead drafter of the Williamsburg Charter, celebrating the First Amendment, and has also been senior fellow at the EastWest Institute in New York, where he drafted the Charter for Religious Freedom. He also co-authored the public school curriculum Living With Our Deepest Differences. Guinness has had a lifelong passion to make sense of our extraordinary modern world and to stand between the worlds of scholarship and ordinary life, helping each to understand the other—particularly when advanced modern life touches on the profound issues of faith. He lives with his wife, Jenny, in McLean, Virginia, near Washington, D.C. His latest book release is: https://www.ivpress.com/the-great-quest (The Great Quest)https://www.ivpress.com/the-great-quest (Invitation to an Examined Life and a Sure Path to Meaning)Read his article "https://www.ivpress.com/pages/content/search-for-meaning-finding-purpose-in-life?source=os-guinness (The Search for Meaning: Finding Your Purpose in Life.)"

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In light of recent events with elder boards making decisions on allegations of abuse by pastors, a rebroadcast on one of our more popular and requested guests, Dr. Chuck DeGroat, seemed timely. https://www.chuckdegroat.net/ (Dr. Chuck DeGroat) is Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Interim D.Min. Director at https://www.westernsem.edu/faculty/degroat/ (Western Theological Seminary ) and faculty member for the https://www.soulcareinstitute.com/ (Soul Care Institute). He is an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. He is a Minister of Word and Sacrament in the Reformed Church in America. He pastored in Orlando and San Francisco before transitioning to training and forming pastors. His experience includes training clergy in issues of abuse and trauma, pastor and planter assessments, church consultations, and investigations of abuse among pastors and within congregations. He has been featured on https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/ (The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill )podcast by Mike Cosper at Christianity Today in regards to the abuse of staff by pastor Marc Driscoll. Chuck has been married to Sara for 27 years, and has two adult daughters. He is the author of: https://amzn.to/3h0NkX7 (When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) https://amzn.to/3gWPhE4 (Leaving Egypt: Finding God in Wilderness Places) https://amzn.to/3vOnfjy (Wholeheartedness: Busyness, Exhaustion and Healing the Divided Self), https://amzn.to/3gQuIub (Toughest People to Love: How to Understand, Lead, and Love the Difficult People in Your Life -- Including Yourself).

Follow Dr. DeGroat's work on https://www.instagram.com/chuckdegroat/?hl=en (Instagram), https://www.facebook.com/chuck.degroat (Facebook), and https://twitter.com/chuckdegroat (Twitter) *Several books are mentioned in this podcast that help in learning to discern the patterns of pastors who bully, intimidate and coerce their staff when it is not easy to see from the outside and is not something everyone on staff experiences. (If you are on a church elder board, or a church hiring committee, I highly recommend these books): https://www.amazon.com/Church-Called-Tov-Goodness-Promotes/dp/1496446003/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3J10Q3YSTBYNC&keywords=a+church+called+tov&qid=1656996975&sprefix=a+church+%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-1 (A Church Called TOV: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing) by Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer https://www.amazon.com/Somethings-Not-Right-Decoding-Abuse/dp/1496444701/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1I6JCQ43ITUC7&keywords=something%27s+not+right+wade+mullen&qid=1656996897&sprefix=something%27s+not+%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-1 (Something's Not Right: Decoding the Hidden Tactics of Abuse and Freeing Yourself From Its Power) by Wade Mullen https://www.amazon.com/Redeeming-Power-Understanding-Authority-Church/dp/1587434385/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1656996762&sr=8-1 (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church) by Dr. Diane Langberg

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https://thestartupwife.com/ (Tahmima Anam) is an award-winning novelist, anthropologist, and author of https://amzn.to/3QV727X (The Startup Wife). She is a Contributing Opinion Writer for the International New York Times and Board Director at ROLl, a tech startup. Her latest Ted Talk is called: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq_v_K4ODPQ (The power of holding silence: Making the workplace work for women) Follow her on https://www.instagram.com/tahmima/ (Instagram), https://www.facebook.com/tahmima (Facebook) and https://twitter.com/tahmima (Twitter) *We reference the book https://amzn.to/3nqdHJD (Pay Up) by Reshma Saujani. It's a MUST READ in a post-Roe America and anywhere around the world where women experience a pay gap. https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance).Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching)

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Sean Palmer speaks about his latest book https://amzn.to/3Ner2iH (Speaking By the Numbers: Enneagram Wisdom for Teachers, Pastors and Communicators) is the teaching pastor at https://ecclesiahouston.org/ (Ecclesia Houston), a speaker, and an executive coach. He is the author of Unarmed Empire and a contributing writer to The Voice Bible. Sean is vice-chair of the Missio Alliance board. He and his wife, Rochelle, live in Houston, Texas, with their two daughters. https://www.theenneagramjourney.org/podcast/2020/episode101 (Listen to him speak) with Suzanne Stabile on The Enneagram Journey podcast. https://enneagramtoday.com/how-this-enneagram-three-learned-to-win-by-losing/?source=IVP-author-page (Read his article) on what it's like to be an Enneagram Three at Enneagram Today. Follow Sean on https://twitter.com/seanpalmer (Twitter)


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Dr. Deborah Pinkston, LPC, PhD has been a counseling professional for more than 17 years. Debbie has a special interest in counseling women, men, couples, teens, pastor’s wives, and missionaries. Dr. Pinkston has a Bachelor of Science in Education from Ouachita Baptist University, a Master of Science in Psychology and Counseling from Troy State University and a Ph.D. in Biblical Counseling from International Theological Seminary. She is trained in Emotionally Focused Therapy for couples and enjoys helping couples learn to communicate and connect more intimately. Debbie is a Lifestyle and Weight Management Specialist, focusing on self-esteem and body image. She also has experience helping survivors of general trauma, medical trauma, and sexual abuse. She offers Eating Disorder Therapy and Immigration Assessments services. With a deep passion for serving couples in Northwest Arkansas, Debbie also works with parenting adult children. She understands the difficulty of navigating such challenges and because of this, seeks to help and bring guidance to parents when parenting their young adult children. Debbie is an Anger Management Specialist. Serving as a missionary in Venezuela for 25 years, she worked in the counseling field and helped establish two orphanages. During this time, she became fluent in Spanish and now is pleased to be meeting the counseling needs of Hispanic individuals and families in Northwest Arkansas. She has extensive experience in multicultural counseling. In addition to counseling, Debbie is an online professor for https://catalog.liberty.edu/graduate/faculty/#p8022719 (Liberty University )in their Masters and doctoral program in Counseling. She has written several books on the topics of recovery from sexual abuse and anxiety, including Power over Anxiety: No longer overpowered: Practical Strategies for Relieving Anxiety. Debbie enjoys spending time with her granddaughter, and playing tennis, hiking, and kayaking with her husband Silvio. She would say that “her heart is still in Venezuela”. Debbie is on https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-pinkston-6b930941 (Linkedin), and is a therapist at: https://www.summitfamilynwa.com/debbie (Summit Family Counseling). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon community

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John and Mark X. Cronin, the father and son co-founders of John’s Crazy Socks, are on a mission to spread happiness. In pursuit of that mission, they have now released The Spreading Happiness Podcast with John and Mark, a weekly, 30-minute podcast designed to bring a smile to your face and make you feel good. During the show, the father and son team banter about what is happening in their lives, their adventures and mishaps, conversations that often lead to hilarious results. As part of each show, they give updates on their sometimes futile efforts to get in shape, share the latest news from John’s love life and tell some jokes. They also share a few good news stories from around the world. The podcast is available on all the usual podcast platforms and at their website. TEDx Appearances John and Mark recently recorded their second TEDx Talk entitled, “Hiring People with Differing Abilities is Not Altruism, It Is Good Business.” That Talk is available on YouTube and the TED platform. Their first TEDx Talk entitled Differently Abled People Want to Help Us is also available on YouTube and the TED platform. Please share and promote these TEDx Talks as you see fit. Helpful Video Links You can find hundreds of videos with John, John and Mark and many others from our business on the John’s Crazy Socks YouTube channel. We also want to share two videos about John’s Crazy Socks that not only can help you prepare for the interview, but you can share through your podcast: •A One Minute Introductory Video: https://youtu.be/ytnqO74aCuo •A Three Minute Introductory Video: https://youtu.be/dzPvxz1oUEA

Media Videos about John and John’s Crazy Socks John’s Crazy Socks has been fortunate to receive considerable media coverage. Here is a sampling of some of that coverage: •CBS Evening News: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/johns-crazy-socks-father-and-son-spread-happiness-one-crazy-pair-of-socks-at-a-time •CNBC: 22-year-old with Down syndrome founded John's Crazy Socks (cnbc.com) •New York Post: https://nypost.com/video/founder-of-million-dollar-sock-company-has-special-needs/ •Fox and Friends: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6016452612001 You can find many more on the In the Media page at our website: John's Crazy Socks in the Media (johnscrazysocks.com)

The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon community

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Gillian Tietz is the host of the https://www.soberpowered.com/ (Sober Powered podcast) and works as a biochemist in the Boston area. When she quit drinking in 2019, she dedicated herself to learning about alcohol's influence on the brain and how it can cause addiction. She used that knowledge to free herself from the shame she had about being unable to control her drinking. Today, she educates and empowers others to assess their relationship with alcohol. You can find Gill creating content on https://www.instagram.com/sober.powered/ (Instagram), https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeSyBTEFmsP49h2q_mxqMOw (YouTube), and wherever you listen to https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sober-powered/id1520426877 (podcasts). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon community

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Russ Laraway has had a diverse 28 year operational management career. He was a Company Commander in the Marine Corps before starting his first company, Pathfinders. From there, Russ went to the Wharton School, and then onto management roles at Google and Twitter. He then co-founded Candor, Inc., along with best selling author Kim Scott. Over the last several years, Russ served as the Chief People Officer at Qualtrics, and is now the Chief People Officer for the fast-growing venture capital firm, Goodwater Capital, where he is helping Goodwater and its portfolio companies to empower their people to do great work and be totally psyched while doing it. Over his career, Russ has managed 700 person teams and $700M businesses at places like Google and Twitter -- facing a vast array of leadership challenges along the way. He's the author of the book https://amzn.to/3N6ZD2u (When They Win, You Win: Being a Great Manager Is Simpler Than You Think.) https://www.whentheywinyouwin.com/the-book/ (Pre-order the When They Win, You Win book) Follow Russ on Linkedin Follow the book release on https://twitter.com/TheyWinYouWin?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Twitter), https://www.instagram.com/theywinyouwin/ (Instagram), https://www.facebook.com/whentheywin (Facebook), The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon community

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As we finish out Autism Awareness Month and begin Mental Health Awareness Month, many are feasting for Eid at the end of Ramadan. All Star Wars friends are hoping May the 4th will be with you, and yet we do not want to forget that Mother's Day is just around the corner. Mothers who work outside the home and do both paid and unpaid work really face impossible challenges toward wellness. However, there is hope. As we begin our Wellness series, we have a guest on this episode who will remind us to be kind to ourselves, and give us practical tools that don't overwhelm us in the process. Rebekah Jackson is a certified independent health coach and a business coach to other health coaches. She lost over 25 pounds in her health journey and has gained changes in her overall mindset in learning to live in long term optimal health and habits. From someone who used to believe that “running off the food” would make a difference to learning to fuel her body, mind, and spirit, she has learned that the journey to health is just that… a journey.  Rebekah has coached over 100 people in the last year in their own health journey as they have pursued optimal health one healthy habit at a time and leads a team of 7 coaches in their businesses in caring for others and supporting them in their journey.  Rebekah is also a licensed/certified occupational therapist and loves to incorporate this into her health coaching in order to support others in reaching and achieving the goals they never thought possible and enjoying the “habits and hobbies” that bring them joy.  She’s a wife of almost 19 years, a mother to an energetic 9 year old and loves to run and try new recipes. Reach out to Rebekah for Health Coaching on https://www.facebook.com/rebekah.jackson.9066 (Facebook) or https://www.instagram.com/rebekahjackson83/ (Instagram). Fill out Rebekah's https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/form/6WIKD0MLj4mjBi2zyhts (Health Assessment). Join before May 9 for $100 off. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon community

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https://stevefredlund.com (Steve Fredlund) is a sought-after innovator engaged to solve the most complex problems. His insights have powered hundreds of breakthroughs in corporations, nonprofits and small businesses. He is the founder and Lead Strategist for Steve Fredlund Solutions and Small Small Business as well as the creator of The Solving BOX™. Currently Steve is focused on improving small business leadership effectiveness, corporate employee engagement and organizational expertise in problem-solving. Here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdGSDx4K9LY&feature=youtu.be (Steve's Ted Talk) on "Putting the Right Peeps in Your Jeep." Steve knows the highs and lows of leadership. For the past 15 years, he has been on a quest to understand the true driving forces of authentic happiness. As a professional speaker, Steve’s insights are transforming the lives of leaders and employees across the country. He has spent his entire life in East Central Minnesota with his wife Tracy and their three, now-grown children. He loves podcasting, poker, disc golf and trying to stay a loyal Minnesota sports fan.The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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https://law.stanford.edu/directory/david-johnson/ (Dave Johnson) is a lawyer, teacher and writer. He has served as general counsel for several tech companies in Silicon Valley across the last twenty years. For the last decade he has held teaching and research posts at Stanford Law School, as well as the Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford. Dave’s client list included some of the biggest names in science and technology: Apple, Caliper, Google, McKesson, and https://computerhistory.org (The Computer History Museum). He has testified before Congress and the California Assembly on technology policy matters, and as expert witness on intellectual property in federal court. His most recent article, Design for Legal Systems, was published by the Singapore Academy of Law in Spring 2021. For his JSM degree in Environmental Law and Policy at https://law.stanford.edu/directory/david-johnson/ (Stanford), Dave’s thesis examined software design methods and their potential to improve global environmental policy, especially with respect to climate change. He is currently working on a book titled Climate Activism by Design, bringing design principles to bear on citizen activists responding to corporate and government inaction on this immediate, existential crisis facing all of humankind. WEBSITE: https://www.climate-activist.com (https://www.climate-activist.com) LEGAL BIO: http://law.stanford.edu/directory/david-johnson (law.stanford.edu/directory/david-johnson) DESIGN BIO: http://dschool.stanford.edu/team-member?name=david-johnson (dschool.stanford.edu/team-member?name=david-johnson) EMAIL: dwj@law.stanford.edu PHONE: 650.544.8108  DESIGN FOR LEGAL SYSTEMS: https://climate-activist.com/about (https://climate-activist.com/about) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Corey Nathan, host of the podcast Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other! is on the show this week talking about, you guessed it, politics and religion. Buckle up because this conversation goes deep fast. Corey Nathan was raised in an observant Jewish household attending an Orthodox synagogue. His family is mostly from Brooklyn, NY; but Corey grew up on the Jersey side - Bruce Springsteen country! In his late 20s, much to the family's chagrin, Corey became a Born-again Christian. Not long after this epiphany, however, the new believer began to find many of the prevailing social and political positions of contemporary American Evangelicalism to be at odds with the very Scriptures that are supposed to be Christians’ authority for how to engage in the world. Vocationally, Corey started out as a stockbroker (Series 7, Series 63) during the day while he was studying at a theatre conservatory at night. Since then, he’s been an entrepreneur with one foot in business and one foot in creative pursuits having built and managed such endeavors as: - a specialty headhunting firm - a theatre and film ministry - a residential and commercial service company - a 501c3 to help folks during the pandemic - and most recently a new media/content company. Avocationally, Corey continues to be a student of theology, politics and culture and enjoys sharing invigorating conversations with world-renowned experts of these subjects on the podcast he produces and hosts, Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other. He can also be caught having these same kinds of discussions with friends and family over a good whiskey or glass of wine with the music of Monk, Coltrane or Louis Armstrong setting the mood. Corey has been married to Lisa for almost 25 years and has 3 kids, Savannah (21), Jackie-boy (18) and Emerson (17) along with the family pooches, Bailey and Charles Mingus the 3rd. As for rumors of his exploits in the world of Texas Holdem Poker, we can neither confirm nor deny those reports. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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A nationally recognized writer, trainer, and consultant in juvenile justice reform, Kristin Henning speaks on the intersection of race, adolescence, and policing. Her book, https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/623467/the-rage-of-innocence-by-kristin-henning/ (The Rage of Innocence), is a powerful analysis of how the legal system criminalizes normal adolescent behavior in communities of color. In it, she lays bare the long-term consequences of racism and trauma that Black children experience at the hands of police (and their vigilante surrogates) and explains how discriminatory and aggressive policing has socialized a generation of Black teenagers to fear and resent the police. In her lectures and workshops, Henning examines how normal adolescent behaviors are distorted into crime and deviance among Black youth, who are denied the grace and tolerance society extends to their white peers. Drawing upon her experience working in D.C.’s juvenile courts, she examines the physical and psychological harms of constant discriminatory and aggressive police surveillance during adolescence – the last period of significant flexibility in the brain – and discusses the devastating long-term consequences criminalization has on the development of Black youth. In her timely and essential workshops, Kristin Henning helps organizations identify unconscious racial bias and challenge racial injustice and inequality. In her educational and dynamic talks, she discusses the challenges she encountered in her legal career and the need for police, prosecutors, and judges to examine their personal biases and combat them in favor of equitable treatment. Kristin Henning is the Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic and Initiative at Georgetown Law, where she teaches students about criminal law, family law, and racial bias in the juvenile and criminal legal systems. Before joining Georgetown University, she worked as a public defender, where she organized and led a juvenile unit representing children arrested in the Washington D.C. area. She is currently the Director of the Mid-Atlantic Juvenile Defender Center and serves on the Board of Directors for the Center for Children’s Law and Policy. Henning received her B.A. from Duke University and J.D. from Yale University. She has received numerous awards for commitment to justice, including the 2021 Juvenile Leadership Prize from the Juvenile Law Center, the 2015 Award for Youth Justice from the DC Lawyers for Youth and 2013 Robert E. Shepherd, Jr. Award for Excellence in Juvenile Defense by the National Juvenile Defender Center. Join our https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon community of Difference-Makers) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon).

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Join our https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon community of Difference-Makers) https://www.josaxton.com/ (Jo Saxton) is a speaker, author, podcast host, and leadership coach who has dedicated her career to investing in women leaders own their voice and find their purpose in their personal lives and in leadership. Born to Nigerian parents and raised in London, England. Jo lives in Minneapolis with her husband, Chris and two daughters. She loves the everyday stuff like good music, good food, and good friends. And Target. She really, really loves Target. https://www.tickettailor.com/events/josaxton/642758 (Sign up) for: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/josaxton/642758 (Ezer Collective Leadership Intensive): Northern California Hosted at Midtown Church SacramentoMon May 9, 2022 6:30 PM - Wed May 11, 2022 3:00 PM Midtown Church-Sacramento, 95818 Jo has authored 6 books including: https://amzn.to/3wmgl8X (Ready to Rise: own Your Voice, Gather Your Community, and Step into Your Influence), https://amzn.to/3InR7cF (The Dream of You: Let Go of Broken Identities and Live the Life You Were Made For )Jo podcasts with Pastor Steph at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lead-stories-podcast/id1071345719 (Lead Stories) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for business. Your audience is waiting to hear from you. Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Lola Adeyemo is the founder and CEO ofhttps://eqimindset.com/ ( EQImindset) (EQI is from Equity and Inclusion). As a certified diversity, equity & inclusion professional, she leverages her experiences as an Immigrant, a career mom, and a Scientist and within different global corporations to inspire and motivate underrepresented individuals. Her goal is to expand the conversations on identity dimensions and intersectionality to help underrepresented and unheard voices be the best versions of themselves regardless of the systems they operate within, Corporate, Non-Profit or Schools.  Lola is currently working towards her Doctorate in Strategic leadership program with a dissertation focus on belonging for Immigrant women and Her book on "Immigrant Women In Corporate America and Belonging" is set for a fall 2022 release. Lola is on https://www.linkedin.com/in/lolaaadeyemopm/ (Linkedin) and https://www.instagram.com/immigrantsincorporate/ (Instagram)  The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for business. Your audience is waiting to hear from you. Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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The https://www.sheleadschurch.com/she-leads-church-22?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sheleadschurch.com%2Fa%2F2147504181%2FDH8PbUnB (She Leads Church Conference) is happening virtually March 16-17. It's free! https://www.sheleadschurch.com/she-leads-church-22?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sheleadschurch.com%2Fa%2F2147504181%2FDH8PbUnB (Register here) to hear many outstanding women speak on a variety of topics at this summit. Three women who have been guests here on the A World of Difference podcast will also be speaking: Nona Jones, Angie Ward and Andrena Sawyer. Lori will be speaking on the first day on Diversity & Inclusion in the Church. Please join in any time on March 16-17, or buy a pass to access the videos longer. It's a great opportunity to join women around the world in learning and making a difference together.


https://paulanthonyhenderson.com (Paul A. Henderson) is a Dean of Students, sports chaplain, author, and motivational speaker. He is a former track and field athlete at Virginia Commonwealth University. Paul blogs at https://www.facebook.com/Fatherhood0nTheFly/ (Fatherhood on the Fly,) where his slogan is, “We’re learning, we’re growing, and we’re getting better one day at a time.” He uses a combination of encouragement and humor from daily experiences with his boys to inspire dads from different backgrounds to embrace the journey of fatherhood and all that comes with it. Slave No More: Conquering the Master Within, Paul’s first book, was released January 4, 2022. Paul is married to Kierra, and they have four sons, PJ, Joey, David, and Noah. Follow Paul on https://www.linkedin.com/in/pahenderson2/ (Linkedin), https://www.facebook.com/pahenderson/ (Facebook) and https://www.instagram.com/fatherhood_onthefly/ (Instagram). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for business. Your audience is waiting to hear from you. Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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https://www.sheleadschurch.com/she-leads-church-22?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sheleadschurch.com%2Fa%2F2147504181%2FDH8PbUnB (Sign up for She Leads Church '22 Virtual Conference) for free Mimi Haddad serves as president and CEO of https://www.cbeinternational.org (CBE International )and as an adjunct associate professor of historical theology at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a graduate of the University of Colorado and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (Summa Cum Laude). She holds a PhD in historical theology from the University of Durham, England. Haddad received an Honorary Doctorate of Divinity from Palmer Theological Seminary of Eastern University 2013. She is serves in leadership with Evangelicals for Justice and is a founding member of the Evangelicals and Women Study Group at the Evangelical Theological Society.  Mimi is an award-winning author and has written more than one hundred academic, popular, and blog articles. She has also contributed to over fifteen books, most recently: “Helping the Church Understand Biblical Gender Equality,” “History Matters: Evangelicals and Women,” and “Human Flourishing: Global Perspectives,” in https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/discovering-biblical-equality-complementarity-without-hierarchy/9780830828340/pd/828346?event=ESRCG (Discovering Biblical Equality: Complementarity Without Hierarchy) (IVP, third edition forthcoming); “Ideas Have Consequences,” in Created to Thrive (CBE International, 2021); “Examples of Women’s Leadership in the Old Testament and Church History” in https://www.amazon.com/Pentecostal-Charismatic-Ministry-Global-Studies/dp/9004332529 (Women in Pentecostal and Charismatic Ministry), part of the Global Pentecostal and Charismatic Studies Series 21 (Brill NV, 2016); https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/womens-equality-biblical-ideal-part-series/9781939971944/pd/971946?event=ESRCG (Is Women's Equality a Biblical Ideal?) with Sean Callaghan (second edition coming in 2021). Haddad has been also published in journals, magazines and blogs, including Ashland Theological Journal, The Campbellsville Review, Catalyst, Christian Ethics Today, Christianity Today, Evangelical Fellowship of India, Evangelical Fellowship of India Commission on Relief, Sojourners, William Carey Development Journal, Missio Alliance, Her.meneutics, Mutuality, and Priscilla Papers. Mimi has taught for colleges and seminaries around the world. She has served as a gender and theology consultant with World Relief, World Vision International, and SASA! Faith Beyond Borders. Haddad served as convener of the Issue Group 24 for the 2004 Lausanne III Committee for World Evangelization. Mimi writes, teaches, and speaks on matters related to development, justice, faith and gender. Mimi and her husband, Dale, live in the Twin Cities (Minnesota) and are involved in local ministries. Mimi is co-host of CBE International’s https://www.cbeinternational.org/library?f%5B0%5D=topic%3A263 (Mutuality Matters) podcast segment, “Global Impact: Egalitarian Activism and Human Flourishing.”  https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authorupcomingspeakingfilter (Upcoming Speaking Engagements)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-requestmimitospeakendorse (Request Mimi to Speak/Endorse)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authorresourcesfilters (CBE-Published Resources by Mimi Haddad)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authornoncberesourcesfilters (Non CBE Resources by Mimi Haddad)The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast...

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Jeff Le has had a career at the highest levels of public policy and politics at the state, federal and international levels. A recognized thought leader in political advocacy and representation, his analysis and opinions have been featured on MSNBC, broadcast television in 40 states, as well as in print at POLITICO Magazine, The New York Times, USA Today, The Washington Post, FOX News, The Hill, Washingtonian, Roll Call, Bustle, Forbes, local and regional newspapers in 35 states. During the height of the #StopAsianHate movement, Jeff penned an opinion piece that received national attention in POLITICO Magazine called https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/03/asian-american-aapi-political-power-covid-19-478845 (I Thought I Knew How to Succeed as an Asian in U.S. Politics. Boy, Was I Wrong.) that highlighted his experiences in workplace discrimination in politics and racism throughout his life.   Jeff is now an executive leader in technology where he is Vice President of Public Policy and External Affairs for Rhino, a fintech startup working to give renters everywhere greater financial freedom through affordable insurance options. Prior to joining Rhino, Jeff was U.S. State and Local Public Policy Lead for VMware, a digital technology and infrastructure company, and managed the company’s gubernatorial, state, county, and local relationships across all 50 states and Canada. Jeff focused on emerging technology policy, including privacy, 5G, broadband, cyber, sustainability, workforce development, diversity and inclusion, education, and IT modernization.    He also sits on the Homeland Security Advisory Committee for the California Governor’s Office of Emergency Services where he provides recommendations to the Governor's Homeland Security Advisor on response and policy pertaining to cyber, disasters, terrorism, drug interdiction, intelligence, and other emerging threats.    Jeff previously served as Deputy Cabinet Secretary for California Governor Jerry Brown where he oversaw homeland security and natural disaster response, immigration, economic development, government operations and civil service reform, emerging technology, artificial intelligence, blockchain, future of work, privacy and cybersecurity, food and agriculture, military, veterans and tribal affairs, and led state negotiations for disaster relief from three historic fires and a megadrought.    As Governor Brown’s Deputy Director for External and International Affairs, Jeff interfaced with domestic stakeholders and convened foreign dignitaries on behalf of the state. He has also worked at the State Department, U.S. House of Representatives, OSCE Parliamentary Assembly, United Nations, Carter Center, and the National Democratic Institute.    Jeff graduated from the University of California, San Diego and received his graduate degree as a Rotary Ambassadorial Scholar at Central European University. He is a Millennium Leadership Fellow with the Atlantic Council, Term Member on the Council on Foreign Relations, a Truman National Security Project Partner, and has been selected for bilateral leadership programs to Japan, Germany, the UK, Spain, and Italy.     Jeff has completed four 100-mile running races, qualified for the Boston Marathon, has been to every Major League Baseball ballpark, all 50 states, and 85 countries. Here's two links that Jeff mentioned in our convo:  PBS: https://www.pbs.org/show/asian-americans/ (https://www.pbs.org/show/asian-americans/) Asian Americans Advancing Justice Training: https://advancingjustice-aajc.org/events (https://advancingjustice-aajc.org/events)

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Catherine McNiel writes about the creative and redemptive work of God in our real, ordinary lives. Her upcoming book, https://www.navpress.com/p/fearing-bravely/9781641583268 (Fearing Bravely: Risking Love for Our Neighbors, Strangers, and Enemies), just released from NavPress in February 2022. Catherine studies theology while caring for three kids, two jobs, and one enormous garden.If Jesus commands Christians to love their neighbors, why are so many North American Christians taught to fear their neighbors? The US church is known as a people who are afraid, who have been nurtured through fear into hatred, and who have moved from hatred to violence—or at least to neglect. This fear, too often lived out boldly in the name of Jesus, is a false religion. If God instructs Christians to welcome strangers, why are so many US Christians ignoring the scriptural commands that say not to withhold hospitality or help from anyone in need? So why do we fear strangers, especially those needing hospitality, afraid that their presence may threaten what we have? If Jesus taught all of His followers to love their enemies, why aren't more North American Christians regularly praying and hearing sermons about how to pray for those who actively harm them? Instead, many church-goers in this polarized context, create enemies in their minds, seeing anyone who thinks, believes, looks, or lives differently from North American Christians as dangerous, a threat to their way of living. The Christian community exists to declare and demonstrate God’s love and to follow Jesus in practicing love over fear, even in unsafe times and places. It’s time to call all people of faith to reclaim our brave fear of God and risk transformative love for the sake of our neighbors, the strangers among us, and our enemies. Christians are to be people of God's Kingdom, which is a place of flourishing and belonging where all nations, races, tribes and languages are welcome. Fearing Bravely teaches us that we have nothing to fear. Instead, we can respond to our fear problem with a brave love that emerges from choosing to let our fear and awe of God overcome our fear of everything else. Catherine McNiel writes with conviction, wisely guiding us to recognize our fear and, with God's help, not let it limit us to love courageously all who are among us. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for...

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Chicago native https://incognitotheplay.com/michael-fosberg/biography/ (Michael Fosberg )has spoken at nearly a thousand high schools, colleges, government agencies, corporations, law firms and not-for-profits since 2005, utilizing his award winning autobiographical story, told in the form of a one-man play, as an entry point for meaningful dialogues on race and identity. He has collaborated with a number of professional diversity practitioners on programs to foster deeper dialogue in corporate settings and at educational institutions. His work with groups such as; The Boeing Company, United Way Worldwide, PNC Financial Services, Proctor & Gamble, The U.S. Dept. of the Treasury, and The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency is reshaping the way organizations talk about race, identity and diversity. Michael has been a frequent guest in the media speaking on these issues, and his latest book, https://amzn.to/3JyCu7k (Nobody Wants to Talk About It; Race, Identity and the Difficulties in Forging Meaningful Conversations) offers readers seven important tools to engage in authentic dialogue. In 2011 he published his memoir;https://amzn.to/3sJUPYu ( Incognito: An American Odyssey of Race and Self-Discovery) and he has just launched a series of unique virtual e-learning programs utilizing his award-winning play as the entry point for delving into uncomfortable conversations. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for business. Your audience is waiting to hear from you. Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Martine Kalaw is the CEO and president ofhttps://martinekalaw.com/ ( Martine Kalaw Enterprises, LLC); a consultancy focused on learning & development, human resources, and diversity, equity & inclusion for corporations, organizations, and nonprofits. She holds a Master’s in Public Administration focusing on immigration law from Syracuse University’s Maxwell School and has authored two books, https://amzn.to/3rDp3Ng (Illegal Among Us: A Stateless Woman’s Quest for Citizenship) and https://amzn.to/3gRXVUV (The ABCs of Diversity: A Managers Guide to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.) As an organizational development expert, Martine has single-handedly built and executed onboarding solutions, management and leadership programs, global mentorship programs consisting of 400+ employees, and designed and customized training for Macy’s, Xaxis, Wheels Up, and Education First. Martine transforms the implicit biases of working professionals and leads “heavy” conversations related to race and legal status. She specifically focuses on unconscious beliefs towards blacks and immigrants through workshops and seminars while also equipping companies with training to up-skill new managers. Martine partners with global professionals to implement learning and workforce development strategies and solutions incorporating race and biases, manager training, and inter/intra department communication. Her soft skills curriculum is popular with late-stage startups experiencing pangs due to a merger, an acquisition, exponential growth, or a sudden reduction in business. A passionate DE&I consultant, Martine has written for publications like Huffington Post and has delivered a https://www.ted.com/talks/martine_kalaw_the_value_of_investing_versus_helping (TEDx talk )on immigration policies as they relate to equity and inclusion. She’s also appeared on C-span. Outside of her work, Martine contributes thought leadership around immigration reform. She’s spoken at Senator McCain’s 2006 Town Hall Rally on Immigration and the U.S. House of Representative’s Judiciary Subcommittee’s 2007 hearing on Immigration Reform. Her story has appeared in USA Today, Metro New York, and The New York Sun. Martine is also the founder and executive director of Stateless and Dreamers Foundation (SAD), which she created after her seven-year battle with the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which eventually led to her U.S. citizenship. SAD provides guidance and practical tools that stateless persons and undocumented immigrants can use to navigate between lawyers and the courts more effectively. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast.

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The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Go to https://kitcaster.com/difference/ (https://kitcaster.com/difference/) to apply for a special offer for friends of this podcast. Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster. You can expect a completely customized concierge service from our staff of communication experts. Kitcaster is your secret weapon in podcasting for business. Your audience is waiting to hear from you. Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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https://kitcaster.com/diana-cutaia/ (Diana Cutaia) founded https://coachingpeace.com/ (Coaching Peace) in 2012, a company focused on using the power of play and connection to empower organizations and teams to create cultures of care, belonging, and peace. However, the work started for Diana 25 years earlier when she first began to explore the meaning of peace. In that time, she hasn’t just defined it; she has built a brand bringing the principles of Coaching Peace to her vast clientele.  Today her clients range from school districts to national organizations and global companies. Diana takes pride in discussing how employers, sports teams, and organizations alike can challenge norms and define a culture that doesn’t just make people feel welcome but makes them feel like it was designed for them. She brings high energy, a sense of humor and great story telling to any conversation! https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianacutaia/ (Follow Diana )on Linkedin. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster.

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Shari Foos is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who holds a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology from Antioch University Los Angeles, and a Master of Science in Narrative Medicine from Columbia University. As a sought-after expert on the subjects of relationships and meaningful connection, Shari’s writing and commentary have appeared in a range of online and print publications, including Real Simple, Huffington Post, Thrive, Shondaland, Women’s Health, and Bustle.  web: http://www.thenarrativemethod.org/ (TheNarrativeMethod.com) fb: https://www.facebook.com/thenarrativemethod (thenarrativemethod) insta: https://www.instagram.com/thenarrativemethod/ (@thenarrativemethod) twitter: https://twitter.com/NarrativeMethod (@NarrativeMethod) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast. Kitcaster is a podcast booking agency that specializes in developing real human connections through podcast appearances. If you are an expert in your field, have a unique story to share, or an interesting point of view-- it’s time to explore the world of podcasting with Kitcaster.

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Sheila Wray Gregoire is a popular speaker, marriage blogger, and the author of nine books, including https://www.amazon.com/Good-Girls-Guide-Great-Sex/dp/0310334098 (The Good Girl’s Guide to Great Sex). Her latest book is https://www.amazon.com/Great-Sex-Rescue-Recover-Intended/dp/1540900827/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Great+Sex+Rescue&qid=1611364260&s=books&sr=1-1 (The Great Sex Rescue) that will be coming out in early March. It is based on the largest survey ever done of Christian women. She surveyed 20,000 women for this book, and we get to hear some of the results of that survey on this podcast.  Sheila loves encouraging women in their relationships, both with God and with their husbands, children, and friends. Her passion is for marriage, and she and her husband Keith speak together at marriage outreaches and at FamilyLife Canada marriage conferences. Sheila believes in authenticity, and gives real solutions to the very real and messy problems women, and couples, can face. You can usually find her in Belleville, Ontario, where she’s constantly texting her two young married daughters and knitting. Preferably simultaneously. She blogs at: tolovehonorandvacuum.com where you can also find her resources that she has written and produced.  You can find the rubric she mentioned here, and a https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/great-sex-rescue/?goal=0_5b44e4e8aa-7ed56ac8fd-27284420&mc_cid=7ed56ac8fd&mc_eid=124699f8ef (place to pre-order her latest book) The Great Sex Rescue: https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/gsr-rubric/ (https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/gsr-rubric/) She has resources to help parents have the sex talk with their kids ages 10-16 in her video curriculum https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/the-whole-story/ (The Whole Story), which has a boy version and a girl version that you can use on a weekend away with your son or daughter.  It is free from purity culture and statements that make girls and boys feel ashamed and trapped in ways some other curriculums have, and it makes it easy to talk about sex with you kid because the videos say the parts that are hard to talk about so you can watch with them.  Has she done us a great favor here or what? She even gives us advice on how to talk with our daughters https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2020/08/parents-lets-not-add-creepy-sexual-messages-to-your-daughters-first-period/ (about her first period) in a way that's not creepy. Have a listen today, and pass this episode on to anyone that may need to hear it.  Sheila is a resource to get us to talk about sex in a healthy way. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast.

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https://kristindumez.com/ (Kristin Kobes Du Mez) is Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University. She holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame and her research focuses on the intersection of gender, religion, and politics. She has written for the Washington Post, NBC News, Religion News Service, Christianity Today, and The Daily Beast, and has been interviewed on NPR, CBS, and the BBC, among other outlets. Her most recent book is https://amzn.to/3vHQNzP (Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation.) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice? Here’s the secret, we all want to feel connected to brands we buy from. What better way to humanize a brand than through sharing your story on a podcast.

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Dr. Beth Allison Barr (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is associate professor of history and associate dean of the Graduate School at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women’s history, and church history. She is the president of the Conference on Faith and History and is a member of Christians for Biblical Equality. Barr has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, and Religion News Service, and is a regular contributor to The Anxious Bench, the popular Patheos website on Christian history. Her book The Making of Biblical Womanhood:  How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth released April 20, 2021. Dr. Barr on https://www.npr.org/2021/04/15/987552105/the-making-of-biblical-womanhood-tackles-contradictions-in-religious-practice (NPR interview) from April 15, 2021 Dr. Barr interviewed by Dr. Scot McKnight on the https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-biblical-womanhood-conversation-beth-allison/id1078739516?i=1000517296125 (Kingdom Roots podcast) on April 15, 2021 The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching)

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This episode is coming to you for such a time as this.  With spiritual abuse, abuse of power, and sexual abuse becoming such common news in our time, we have to admit that there are many churches with cultures and systems that are unhealthy and even harmful.  If you are a pastor, a church leader, a congregant or just want to be a part of making a difference in a way that helps others flourish, listen in closely to the research and the harsh reality of what is happening on our watch. There is hope of how to do better, and how to be a part of creating goodness cultures together.   Our guests today are a father and daughter co-author duo who walked through a painful reality at Willow Creek church in Chicago, and that experience led them to want to help others.   Dr. Scot McKnight is a world-renowned speaker, writer, professor and equipper of the Church. He is a recognized authority on the historical Jesus, early Christianity, and the New Testament. His blog, https://www.christianitytoday.com/scot-mcknight/about/about.html (Jesus Creed), is a leading Christian blog. Dr. McKnight’s books include https://www.amazon.com/dp/1612615783/?tag=christtoday-20 (The Jesus Creed), https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IOZUDA/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2 (The King Jesus Gospel), https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077CXZ2CD/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i1 (The Blue Parakeet,) https://www.amazon.com/Real-Mary-Scot-McKnight-December/dp/B01B98EXKO/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1614661767&sr=1-1 (The Real Mary), and Junia is Not Alone.  A sought after speaker, he has been interviewed on several radio and television programs as well as spoken at numerous local churches, conferences, colleges, and seminaries in the United States and around the world. Scot McKnight is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature and the Society for New Testament Studies. McKnight’s books have been translated into Chinese, Korean, Russian, and Portuguese.  You can find him, along with the other 50.5K followers https://twitter.com/scotmcknight (on twitter) at: @scotmcknight  Laura Barringer is a teacher of primary-grade students. She is the co-author of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612615813?pf_rd_r=DZW1HYYHWSW3JGZYY2G0&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=b5e704d7-9bd1-42ff-82e9-c2f855593e81&pd_rd_w=eqJhv&pd_rd_wg=NgWHs&ref_=pd_gw_unk (Sharing God's Love: The Jesus Creed for Children) and wrote a teacher lesson and activity guide to accompany the book. She is also co-author of A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. Laura is a graduate of Wheaton College (IL) and currently resides in the Chicago suburbs with her husband, Mark, and three beagles.  You can find her https://twitter.com/laurambarringer (on twitter) at:  @laurambarringer  Buy their book and highlight it as many times as I did, because https://www.amazon.com/s?k=a+church+called+tov&crid=2JGX5MN2SCBXC&sprefix=a+church+cal%2Caps%2C226&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_12 (A Church Called TOV:  Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing), will likely be, outside of the Bible, the most important book you read this year.  Let's be TOV and create TOV systems and TOV churches together so we can all flourish.  The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on...

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https://www.dianelangberg.com/ (Dr. Diane Langberg) came on the podcast last year, and was one of our most listened to episodes. Dr. Langberg is globally recognized for her 47 years of clinical work with trauma victims. She has trained caregivers on six continents in responding to trauma and to the abuse of power. She also directs her own counseling practice in Jenkintown, PA, Diane Langberg, Ph.D. & Associates, which includes seventeen therapists with multiple specialties. Dr. Langberg’s newest book is https://amzn.to/3F0dVO2 (Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church). Other books include Counseling Survivors of Sexual Abuse, On the Threshold of Hope (with accompanying workbook), In Our Lives First: Meditations for Counselors and Suffering the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores. Dr. Langberg is the recipient of the Distinguished Alumna Achievements from Taylor University., the American Association of Christian Counselors Caregiver Award, The Distinguished President’s award, and the Philadelphia Council of Clergy’s Christian Service Award. She is married and has two sons and four grandchildren. https://www.dianelangberg.com/ (https://www.dianelangberg.com) Dr. Langberg cofounded the Global Trauma Recovery Institute at Missio Seminary in Philadelphia. She is also on the board of https://www.netgrace.org/ (GRACE), Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment, founded by https://twitter.com/BozT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Boz Tchividjian). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr).https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice?

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/gpallapa/ (Dr. Gautham Pallapa) talks about his latest book https://amzn.to/3zr6yxT (Leading With Empathy: Understanding the Needs of Today's Workforce). Dr. Pallapa is a business transformation leader and trusted advisor for Global 2000 organizations. Digital, Telecom, and Healthcare senior leader, executive advisor, keynote speaker, advisor, and board member. He is the founder of https://transformity.info/ (Transformity), and Senior Executive Advisor at https://www.vmware.com/ (VMWare.) Dr. Pallapa is passionate about improving the quality of life of humans, reflected by the mantra “Transform with Empathy” and Ph.D. in smart technologies for assisted healthcare. He is an Ambassador for the DevOps Institute, Agile coach, Lean Six Sigma Black Belt, SAFe Agilist, Master Coach. He speaks, writes, and works on empathy, workforce empowerment, helping underprivileged people, and giving back to the community. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice?

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Rob Dixon (DIS, Fuller Theological Seminary) is an associate regional ministry director with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA and senior fellow for gender partnership with the InterVarsity Institute. He is an adjunct professor at Fresno Pacific University and Fuller Theological Seminary and provides training on flourishing mixed-gender ministry partnerships for numerous organizations around the country. He discusses his book https://www.ivpress.com/together-in-ministry (Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is advicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM ( that helps).Did you know that podcasts are a great way to grow your personal and business brand voice?

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Jayne Nakata is the host of the Number 1 podcast for international women living in Japan: https://www.jaynenakata.com/podcast (Transformations with Jayne). She is also the creator of https://www.jaynenakata.com/podcastconsulting (PodLaunch), which helps podcasters in Japan to launch and run their own show. Jayne has lived in Fukushima Prefecture, Japan for nearly 20 years. After the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear disaster hit her Japanese home town in 2011, she decided not to "run away" but to stay and overcome the challenges of living there. Since then she has started her own podcast consulting, coaching and production business and lives her best life with her family and dog Sebastian.

The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is advicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM ( that helps).

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https://christinacorpus.com/ (Christina Corpus), candidate for San Mateo County Sheriff 2022. Christina is the first female candidate to run for Sheriff in San Mateo County. Christina is currently the Chief of Police services for the City of Millbrae. If elected in June, 2022, she will be the first Latina Sheriff in the state of California. Christina Corpus is the daughter of immigrants from Nicaragua and Mexico. She was born and raised in the Bay Area, where she has lived her entire life. Growing up, her mother instilled in her a strong work ethic, and she has been working since she was sixteen years old. As she entered adulthood, she was drawn to public service. She began her career with San Mateo County as a caseworker with the San Mateo County District Attorney’s Office in 1995.   Serving the public was a rewarding experience and Christina quickly realized that law enforcement was how she wished to grow as a professional and inspire young women that looked like her. She applied to the San Mateo County Sheriff’s Office and was hired as a Correctional Officer in 2002. She was quickly promoted to Deputy Sheriff and worked primarily in the North Fair Oaks area, a predominantly Latino community. There, Christina met her husband, John, who is also a law enforcement officer for the San Mateo County Sheriff’s Office.  Over her decades-long career at the Sheriff’s Office, Christina has served in the Corrections Division, Professional Standards, and the Operations Division. Most of her career has been heavily involved with community policing, first as a Deputy, and then as the Director of the Sheriff’s Office Community Alliance to Revitalize our Neighborhood. After she was promoted to Sergeant, she returned to Community Policing as a supervisor. As she advanced in her career, Christina realized she wanted to deepen her understanding of law enforcement with more education. This drive led Christina to enroll in Union Institute and University, where she completed a bachelor’s degree in Law Enforcement Leadership.  After being promoted to Sergeant and serving as Community Policing Supervisor, Christina was promoted to Lieutenant and oversaw the entire Community Policing Bureau. She later became the Commander of Bayside Patrol and managed the Community Policing Unit, the School Resource Unit, Field Training Unit, K-9 Unit, Motor Unit, and the Sheriff’s Activities League program. When she was promoted to Captain, she continued to oversee the Bayside Patrol Bureau. Recently, she became Chief of Police Services for the City of Millbrae.

Christina has always taken pride in being a problem solver. Throughout her career, she has championed several innovative programs to re-imagine modern law enforcement in San Mateo County: Women in Law Enforcement Boot Camp and Symposium to mentor and train women seeking a career in law enforcement BOLO-Wrap, a restraint device to humanely immobilize combative or resistive individuals. Project Guardian, in which law enforcement officers receive special training and a system of advisory alerts to inform them on when they are contacting a person on the autistic spectrum, and how to safely diffuse the situation I’mpossible running program, which uses running as a conduit to self-respect, self-love, and, through education, dedication and hard work, the self-esteem based belief that anything is possible Officer Survey program, which allows community members to provide feedback on the service they receive from our Sheriff’s deputies

Aside from her work with the Sheriff’s Office, Christina also serves as a board member for Lifemoves, Casa Circulo Cultural, and the Sheriff’s Activities League. She completed a Masters of Science Degree in Law Enforcement and Public Safety Leadership from the University of San Diego and received her degree in August 2021. When she's not working, studying or sitting on a board, Christina enjoys spending time with her...

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Bindiya is the author of https://amzn.to/3lrfY6G (CORINTH 2642 AD), a sci-fi thriller that tackles race as a construct. She is a former defense and aerospace journalist. Before moving to the San Francisco Bay Area, she lived in Dubai, UAE and Bangalore, India. When she’s not writing, she’s camping in the California wilderness (where she also writes) with her husband and baby-dog.   The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). This episode was sponsored by WYLD Gallery. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is advicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM ( that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Allan J. "Alonzo" Wind is a retired Senior Foreign Service Officer from the U.S. Agency for International Development (https://www.usaid.gov/ (USAID)), having worked off and on with the Agency primarily overseas on diplomatic assignments from 1990 to 2019 in the Peru, Nicaragua, Angola, Nigeria, Iraq, Afghanistan and South Africa and the Southern Africa Regional Missions. In these roles he provided oversight to U.S. government foreign aid development and humanitarian assistance and supported U.S. Ambassadors as their senior development officer on multiple U.S. Embassy Country Teams. In South Africa he helped establish the Southern Africa Regional Leadership Center as part of President Obama’s https://yali.state.gov/ (Young African Leadership Initiative), and contributed to other youth development efforts and business incubators. He previously worked as the Global Programme Coordinator for the https://www.savethechildren.net/ (International Save the Children Alliance) Secretariat and as a Country Director and Health Sector Coordinator for different nonprofit private voluntary organizations including https://www.care.org/ (CARE) and https://plan-international.org/ (PLAN) International in a range of countries including Ecuador, Bolivia, the Dominican Republic and the United Kingdom. Mr. Wind began his career as a Rural Public Health U.S. https://www.peacecorps.gov/ (Peace Corps) Volunteer in Ecuador from 1980-1982, where he was widely known as “Doctor Alonzo.” The Alonzo nickname stuck throughout life in many countries in Latin America, Africa and Asia. He graduated from the University of Chicago. He is originally a New Yorker, and as a high schooler he was a “subway rat” attending the famous https://stuy.enschool.org/ (Stuyvesant High School) in Manhattan. There he studied creative writing for two years with his teacher, the famous Irish American writer Frank McCourt. He has always been an avid science fiction fan and sometime writer, and notes that writing science fiction and creative writing under Frank was invaluable for future U.S. government work. He and his wife currently reside in Fairfax County Virginia, while their adult daughter is in Africa on her own adventures. Mr. Wind serves on the Boards of Directors of different non-governmental organizations, including https://www.hungerreliefinternational.org/ (Hunger Relief International), supporting the efforts to help the neediest in Guatemala and Haiti, any way he can. His memoir is https://amzn.to/3nK6Uvi (Andean Adventures) Website: https://enableennoble.net (https://enableennoble.net) ANDEAN ADVENTURES:  https://tinyurl.com/AndeanAdv (https://tinyurl.com/AndeanAdv) AVENTURAS ANDINAS: https://tinyurl.com/AventurasAndinas (https://tinyurl.com/AventurasAndinas) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is advicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM ( that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch...

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Dan Stringer is a pastor, author, and campus minister in Honolulu, Hawai'i. His book https://ivpress.com/struggling-with-evangelicalism (Struggling with Evangelicalism: Why I Want to Leave and What it Takes to Stay) explores how to grapple with mixed feelings about evangelicalism in order to cultivate healthier, less toxic evangelical spaces. He is ordained in the Evangelical Covenant Church. Dan serves as the team leader for https://www.pacificgfmintervarsity.org/ (InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries) in Hawai'i and is the Pastor of Theological Formation at https://www.wellspringhawaii.org/ (Wellspring Covenant Church) in Hālawa. He loves seeing communities of faith come to life through God's grace, joy, and justice. Dan's educational background includes Wheaton College (BA), Fuller Seminary (M.Div), and the University of Hawai'i School of Social Work (MSW). Let's Go Bows! Dan was born on O'ahu and grew up in Mililani, Hawai'i, DR Congo, Nepal, and the Philippines as the child of medical missionaries. His maternal great-great-grandfather Chun Quon Yee Hop immigrated in 1886 from Guangdong, China to San Francisco then Honolulu despite the Chinese Exclusion Act. On his dad's side, Dan's 8th-great-grandfather John Stringer came from Cheshire, England to the British colony of Pennsylvania sometime between 1692 and 1737. Dan enjoys spiritual conversations and is passionate about equipping people to discern how faith, culture(s), and the common good intersect in their context. He has 10 years of experience in pastoral/campus ministry and 8 years in the social work field helping people obtain housing and employment. He has written for https://www.missioalliance.org/evangelicalism-its-a-brand-but-its-also-a-space/ (Missio Alliance), https://www.inheritancemag.com/stories/silence-as-loud-as-speech (Inheritance), and is a contributor to https://www.amazon.com/Father-Factor-American-Christian-Fatherhood/dp/1940468205 (Father Factor). The book Lori is reading right now that she mentioned on the podcast is: Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes: Removing Cultural Blinders to Better Understand the Bible  by  https://www.amazon.com/E-Randolph-Richards/e/B001JSD57M/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1 (E. Randolph Richards) and https://www.amazon.com/Brandon-J-OBrien/e/B0038HR4M4/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_2 (Brandon J. O'Brien)  The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is advicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM ( that helps).

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http://www.sam-thiara.com (Sam Thiara) is a professional who has created a personal journey as a speaker, storyteller, writer, educator, mentor, coach, entrepreneur, problem solver and community activator. Sam has authored two books, one on storytelling and his latest, https://amzn.to/3qvwFkS (Lost and Found: Seeking the Past and Finding Myself) is a travel memoir about his journey to India to find his ancestral roots with a faded photograph. His goal is to engage individuals in their personal and professional development, work with teams and organizations on alignment and the 45+ non-profits that he has worked with over the years. Presently, he teaches at the Beedie School of business, at Simon Fraser University and is also the Founder and Chief Motivating Officer at Ignite the Dream Coaching and Consulting, a platform that engages his audience to define their path. A key element is transformational practices where he has become an expert in career coaching (15-40 year old’s) with over 5,000 conversations to date and supporting teams and organizations. He has authored two books, one on storytelling and the other a travel memoir about his journey to India to find his ancestral roots with a faded photograph. He has also spoken at two different TEDx conferences. His tagline - "Everyone’s life is an autobiography…make yours worth reading" The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps).  Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Nona Jones is a rare combination of preacher, business executive, author, and entrepreneur. In her day job she serves as the Head of North America Community Partnerships and Global Faith-Based Partnerships at Facebook. She is the bestselling author of two books; https://amzn.to/2XrLzfR (Success from the Inside Out), chronicling her unlikely story of success after a childhood filled with physical and sexual abuse, and https://amzn.to/3lWFRfB (From Social Media to Social Ministry), the globally acclaimed guide to digital discipleship for churches. Since being licensed into the gospel ministry at the age of 17, Nona has preached around the world. As a business executive and entrepreneur, she has been profiled by ESSENCE Magazine as an “Under 40 Woman to Watch” and Florida Trend Magazine as one of Florida’s “30-Something All Stars.” She holds a Bachelor in Communications and Master of Business Administration from the University of Florida where she has been recognized as an Outstanding Young Alumnus and she has completed graduate studies at the Harvard Law School Program on Negotiation.She is the Founder of https://www.faithandprejudice.com/ (Faith & Prejudice), a social justice organization bringing the churches across North America together to dismantle systemic racism. She is a graduate of Leadership Florida and the Presidential Leadership Scholars Program, a joint initiative of President George W. Bush and President Bill Clinton. Her civic engagement includesT he Links, Incorporated, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., and the University of Florida Digital Advisory Council. She and her husband, Pastor Tim, lead Open Door Ministries in Gainesville, FL and are the proud parents of two boys, Timothy, Jr. and Isaac, and two girls, Goldendoodle Shiloh and Standard Poodle Sydney. Follow Nona on https://www.facebook.com/NonaNotNora (Facebook), https://www.instagram.com/nonanotnora/ (Instagram) and https://www.youtube.com/c/NonaNotNora (You Tube) at https://www.facebook.com/NonaNotNora (@nonanotnora). The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps).

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First generation, California-born Frank Carbajal’s parents were migrant farm workers in the early 70’s, and were offered jobs in canaries in the Silicon Valley. His parents did important work, feeding a nation with diligence and dedication. They wanted a better life for their son, and his dreams of being the first to go to college and a First Gen Latinx Professional in his family led him to want to help others rise as well. He founded Es Tiempo, and the Silicon Valley Latino Leadership Summit to change the narrative and showcase the talent and diversity among Latinx professionals. He is the co-author of Building the Latino Future: Success Stories for the Next Generation. He has written several books, including his latest that releases mid-November. Pre-order https://amzn.to/2YMZgGY (Latinx Business Success.) Mr. Carbajal holds an MA, with an emphasis in Human Resources Management. He lives with his wife and three daughters in Santa Clara, California. You can follow https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-carbajal-a85621a/ (Frank Carbajal on Linkedin) as he showcases a variety of Latinx leaders in many different professions who are inspirational and that have much to teach us. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps).Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Amy Stumpf, Ph.D. is a Professor of Society and Religion at California Baptist University. She grew up as a TCK in a family that worked in Relief and Development in the Philippines and Thailand. She went to International School Bangkok, and has a Ph.D. in Social Policy and Research from Loma Linda University, an M.A. in Biomedical and Clinical Ethics from Loma Linda University and a B.A. in Ethics from Pacific Union College. https://calbaptist.edu/faculty-directory/profileview?id=82# (Courses Taught)

The book Dr. Stumpf asks male colleagues and allies to read is: https://amzn.to/2Xacflj (Invisible Women). Be the first man to take her up on her offer to read this book in order to understand what female colleagues go through. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps).Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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https://culturs.org/Doni/ (Doni Aldine) is a globally mobile Afro-Latina and first-generation North American who, by age 19, lived in seven cultures on five continents. She is passionate about creating community for cross-cultural populations. She has presented around the globe as a Keynote, at conferences, universities & in media as a lifestyle expert focused on entrepreneurship, marketing & cross-cultural identity. With this background, she developed university curricula for global culture identity. Aldine uses her global, multi-cultural background, academic training, and career experience in media, management and business to position https://culturs.org/ (CULTURS )as the first-ever digital-first print publication & product marketplace that addresses global and mobile cultural identities, with emphasis on hidden diversity.


Most recently, she consulted on culture for Warner Brothers Studios and Turner Network Television, with Wonder Woman Director Patty Jenkins, and worked with NBC/Universal to feature cross-cultural casts for "New Amsterdam," and "Bluff City Law." Doni mentioned on the podcast that she would love you to https://culturs.org/contribute/ (contribute your story). TCKs, expats, global nomads, diplomatic kids, etc. Culturs is home for a global audience of culturally mobile people. Their audience embodies hidden diversity rather than visual diversity. They have spent their formative years in between cultures and in doing so, have adopted a separate culture altogether, uniquely their own. They are looking for content which speaks to this group’s interests and experiences. They focus on lifestyle topics of interest to this population including entrepreneurship, travel, education and human connection.  The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Bonnie Gray is an author and inspirational speaker based in Northern California. Bonnie has developed a global following of readers who come to her for inspiring Christian living content written in her authentic, unique voice. Bonnie’s moving, soulful stories challenge believers spiritually and connect deeply at a heart level. Raised by a single mother in San Francisco’s Chinatown, Bonnie worked alongside her mother to make ends meet. While speaking only Chinese at home, Bonnie became fluent in English at school, excelling in her studies. Bonnie’s hard work earned scholarships for college, which she knew would enable her to provide for her mother and younger sister. After graduating UCLA with a computer science and engineering degree, Bonnie worked as a high-tech professional in Silicon Valley for 15 years – as well as a missionary to Asia and a ministry entrepreneur in the U.S. Bonnie’s publishing career launched in 2014 with the release of her first book, https://amzn.to/3ACRq0s (Finding Spiritual Whitespace: Awakening Your Soul to Rest). Her next book, https://amzn.to/3u2d2k0 (Whispers of Rest: 40 Days of God’s Love to Revitalize Your Soul,) released in 2017. Bonnie’s writing is featured at her blog and in numerous Christian media outlets such as Relevant Magazine and Christianity Today. Bonnie’s new book, https://amzn.to/3EECf9k (Sweet Like Jasmine: Finding Identity in a Culture of Loneliness )(Harvest House, October 2021) is her most personal to date. A moving memoir about uncovering family secrets, finding true worth, and witnessing brokenness made beautiful, Sweet Like Jasmine celebrates what it really means to belong. Growing up as an American-Chinese daughter of a mail-order bride and a busboy working in San Francisco’s Chinatown, Bonnie never truly felt beautiful or beloved. But at 39, a long-forgotten birth certificate in an old file cabinet sparked a curiosity she couldn’t ignore. Bonnie embarked on a journey that led to soul-shaking discoveries about her identity, human kindness, and what it means to be loved. As an inspirational speaker and podcast host of Breathe: The Stress Less Podcast, Bonnie touches thousands of lives every year using storytelling, soul care, and prayer. She speaks passionately on topics of women’s wellness, spiritual growth, prayer, meditation, healing, storytelling, creativity, and finding God in the daily grind of everyday life. Bonnie Gray (thebonniegray.com) lives in California with her husband Eric and their two sons. Readers connect with her on social media @thebonniegray. The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in one-on-one or group coaching on how to live a life that makes a difference? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim received her Ph.D. from the University of Toronto and is Professor of Theology at https://esr.earlham.edu/node/1624 (Earlham School of Religion). She is the author or editor of 20 books, most recently, https://amzn.to/3tIa1pe (Hope in Disarray; Keeping Hope Alive); Reimagining Spirit and Intersectional Theology, andhttps://amzn.to/2XmYD64 ( Healing Our Broken Humanity: Practices for Revitalizing the Church and Renewing the World )which she co-wrote with Dr. Graham J Hill. Dr. Kim's newest book https://amzn.to/393MyoV (Invisible) is available for pre-order. Kim is a Series Editor for https://www.palgrave.com/gp/series/14781 (Palgrave Macmillan Series, “Asian Christianity in the Diaspora”) and has served on the https://www.aarweb.org/AARMBR/Who-We-Are-/Board-of-Directors.aspx (American Academy of Religion’s Board of Directors). Kim writes for https://baptistnews.com/article/author/gracekim/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkIGKBhCxARIsAINMioJEbJH0Iqq0KmfCaGqxv8XSF5whidmZ8OooybihTOurrX5C4uW9QrgaAuGvEALw_wcB#.YUDv-p5Kgq0 (Baptist News Global), https://sojo.net/biography/grace-ji-sun-kim (Sojourners), https://faithandleadership.com/authors/grace-ji-sun-kim (Faith and Leadership and Wabash Center) and has published in TIME, The Huffington Post, Christian Century, US Catholic Magazine and The Nation. She is the host of https://www.christiancentury.org/madang (madang podcast )and is an ordained Presbyterian Church (USA) minister. More of her writing and work can be found on her blog site https://gracejisunkim.wordpress.com/ (https://gracejisunkim.wordpress.com/) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in life coaching? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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https://mediacenter.tyndale.com/authors/angie-ward/3931 (Dr. Angie Ward) brings over 30 years of ministry experience to her roles as leader, writer, and teacher. She currently serves as Assistant Director of the Doctor of Ministry program at Denver Seminary. Angie is the author of I Am a Leader: When Women Discover the Joy of Their Calling (NavPress, March 2020) and the general editor of the upcoming book https://www.navpress.com/p/when-the-universe-cracks/9781641584098 (When the Universe Cracks: Living as God’s People in Times of Crisis) (NavPress, October 2021). Angie loves running, basketball, humor, and movies. She and her husband Dave have two young adult sons and one very spoiled beagle.She speaks to us about our current crises from Afghanistan to Covid to racial reconciliation around the globe. She gives us a preview of upcoming book she edited with authors and thought leaders Jo Anne Lyon, Efrem Smith, Christine Jeske, D. A. Horton, Kyuboem Lee, Marshall Shelley, Matt Mikalatos, Sean Gladding, Catherine McNiel, and Lee Eclov. https://www.angieward.net/ (Angie's Website)https://www.facebook.com/drangieward (Facebook)https://twitter.com/indyaward (Twitter)https://www.instagram.com/indyaward/ (Instagram) The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in life coaching? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Originally from Australia, Mandy Smith is a pastor and the author of The Vulnerable Pastor: How Human Limitations Empower Our Ministry (IVP) and Unfettered: Imagining a Childlike Faith Beyond the Baggage of Western Culture (Brazos). Mandy and her husband, a New Testament professor, live with their family in a little house where the teapot is always warm. Learn more about Mandy’s work at www.TheWayisTheWay.org Mandy's friend Sandy Brock is a spiritual director who also does body work. You can find her holistic approach here: http://antiphio.com/essentia-experience/ (http://antiphio.com/essentia-experience/) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in life coaching? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Catherine Mattiske is the inventor of the globally acclaimed instructional design system – ID9 Intelligent Design. This inventive, research-based system creates corporate training that delivers exceptional results. Catherine founded The Performance Company (TPC) in 1994, serving clients worldwide with offices in Australia, Los Angeles, New York, and London. Catherine is a globally recognized training expert. Her focus is on energizing and influencing organizations to change employee behavior to drive business results and achieve goals. Residing in Melbourne, Australia, and traveling the globe, Catherine has been referred to as ‘the maestro of changing behavior’. Sought after as a consultant advising the world’s largest organizations on their L&D strategy, Catherine is also the author of https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B003KWQSNI?_encoding=UTF8&node=283155&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-sidecar-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader (30 published books). These include the 27 part Learning Short-take™ series, the best sellers, Train for Results, and Training Activities That Work, and her latest book – Leading Virtual Teams, published in 2020. ID9 dynamically powers many of the internal training programs for the world’s leading brands. Over 4,500 professional trainers and instructional designers have become certified in ID9, going on to train 5 million participants globally. ID9 Intelligent Design - https://www.id9intelligentdesign.com/ (https://www.id9intelligentdesign.com/) Inner Genius (Book and Profile) https://www.innergeniusnow.com/ (https://www.innergeniusnow.com/)

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Dr. Mimi Haddad serves as president and CEO of https://www.cbeinternational.org/?gclid=CjwKCAjw3_KIBhA2EiwAaAAlimrmgZsvxcB2_gyg7S93CJgDqrwFdsIUrVOG8nTvwKyHo3xVo5JrQBoCOi4QAvD_BwE (CBE International )and as an adjunct associate professor of historical theology at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a graduate of the University of Colorado and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (Summa Cum Laude). She holds a PhD in historical theology from the University of Durham, England. Haddad received an Honorary Doctorate of Divinity from Palmer Theological Seminary of Eastern University 2013. She is serves in leadership with http://www.evangelicals4justice.org/ (Evangelicals for Justice) and is a founding member of the Evangelicals and Women Study Group at the https://www.etsjets.org/ (Evangelical Theological Society).  Mimi is an award-winning author and has written more than one hundred academic, popular, and blog articles. She has also contributed to over fifteen books, most recently: “Helping the Church Understand Biblical Gender Equality,” “History Matters: Evangelicals and Women,” and “Human Flourishing: Global Perspectives,” in https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/discovering-biblical-equality-complementarity-without-hierarchy/9780830828340/pd/828346?event=ESRCG (Discovering Biblical Equality: Complementarity Without Hierarchy) (IVP, third edition forthcoming); “Ideas Have Consequences,” in Created to Thrive (CBE International, 2021); “Examples of Women’s Leadership in the Old Testament and Church History” in https://www.amazon.com/Pentecostal-Charismatic-Ministry-Global-Studies/dp/9004332529 (Women in Pentecostal and Charismatic Ministry), part of the Global Pentecostal and Charismatic Studies Series 21 (Brill NV, 2016); https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/is-gender-equality-a-biblical-ideal/mimi-haddad/9781939971265/pd/971265 (Is Gender Equality a Biblical Ideal?) with Sean Callaghan (second edition coming in 2021). Haddad has been also published in journals, magazines and blogs, including Ashland Theological Journal, The Campbellsville Review, Catalyst, Christian Ethics Today, Christianity Today, Evangelical Fellowship of India, Evangelical Fellowship of India Commission on Relief, Sojourners, William Carey Development Journal, Missio Alliance, Her.meneutics, Mutuality, and Priscilla Papers. Mimi has taught for colleges and seminaries around the world. She has served as a gender and theology consultant with World Relief, World Vision International, and SASA! Faith Beyond Borders. Haddad served as convener of the Issue Group 24 for the 2004 Lausanne III Committee for World Evangelization. Mimi writes, teaches, and speaks on matters related to development, justice, faith and gender. Mimi and her husband, Dale, live in the Twin Cities (Minnesota) and are involved in local ministries. https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authorupcomingspeakingfilter (Upcoming Speaking Engagements)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-requestmimitospeakendorse (Request Mimi to Speak/Endorse)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authorresourcesfilters (CBE-Published Resources by Mimi Haddad)https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad#block-authornoncberesourcesfilters (Non CBE Resources by Mimi Haddad)

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Connie Jakab is the Director of Community for the global movement, Flourishing Life and is also the Senior Manager of Wellness Innovate. She is the author of https://amzn.to/3lRExe5 (Bring Them Closer) and https://amzn.to/3CC58lj (two) other https://amzn.to/2VKjRtZ (books). Connie is passionate about rebelling against status quo living and encouraging others to branch out. She is also the Founder of https://www.nationalhopemovement.com/ (National Hope Movement )combatting mental health in Canada. She is a sought out speaker for her raw honesty and humour. Connie drives her passion outward into the arms of those wanting something more radical and meaningful in life. She lives with her husband and two boys in Calgary, Alberta Canada. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If05owZqDUw (Watch Connie's talk) she mentioned on the podcast that was fully memorized for the TedX style stage in NYC. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in life coaching? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Perrine Farque is an author, entrepreneur, keynote speaker and diversity expert who empowers leaders to leverage diversity as their competitive advantage. Nominated in the Top 50 Most Influential UK Tech Women, Perrine continues to be recognized for her contributions. Perrine drove the strategy at companies such as Facebook and is on a mission to make the workplace more inclusive and diverse. Her newly released book https://amzn.to/3f0Yv1K (Inclusion) is all about how to celebrate diversity with the extra step of inclusion in the workspace. It will help you become the inclusive leader you have always wanted to become. Follow Perrine at https://www.perrinefarque.com/ (https://www.perrinefarque.com/) orhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmYKgD9mNq80PJshb8PZjsg ( You Tube), https://www.linkedin.com/in/perrinefarque/ (Linkedin), https://twitter.com/PerrineFarqueUK (Twitter), https://www.facebook.com/PerrineFarque (Facebook), https://www.instagram.com/perrinefarqueofficial/ (Instagram) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Interested in life coaching? Check out: https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching (https://www.loriadamsbrown.com/coaching) If you are facing some big decisions, here is a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9eRJXjZrsM (pro tip that helps). Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Richard Lee is a sought-after speaker on issues of justice, race and faith, speaking across the globe for the last 20 years. His TEDx talk “Slavery Still Exists. Here’s How to End It.” can be found on the http://ted.com/ (TED.com) website. Additionally, he is the host of The Pursuit with Richard Lee, a podcast with unfiltered conversations with faith leaders about their journey to pursue God. You can read his writings on Missio Alliance, http://outreachmagazine.com/ (OutreachMagazine.com), http://thegospelcoalition.org/ (TheGospelCoalition.org), and http://churchleaders.com/ (ChurchLeaders.com). He has been interviewed on dozens of podcasts and radio stations.   In his role as Global Officer of Public Engagement with International Justice Mission (IJM), he trains and equips IJM staff and survivors to carry the message of ending injustice on the global stage. Before joining IJM, Richard served 20 years in pastoral ministry and currently serves as Teaching Faculty at Highrock Church in Boston. He also works with Asian American Christian Collaborative as their Director of Advancement & serves as an advisory board member for One Days Wages, a global poverty organization.   Richard received his degree in Mathematics from Columbia College (NYC) and his master’s of divinity from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. He resides in New Jersey with his wife Theresa and their two children. Connect with Richard on https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardl-ee/ (Linkedin), https://twitter.com/richardl_ee?lang=en (Twitter), and https://www.facebook.com/richardjaylee (Facebook) or at his http://richardl.ee/ (website) Check out hishttps://twitter.com/thepursuitcast ( podcast) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pursuit-with-richard-lee/id1449435060 (The Pursuit), and his podcast https://www.facebook.com/thepursuitcast (Facebook page.) Watch his https://www.ted.com/talks/richard_lee_slavery_still_exists_here_s_how_to_end_it (Ted Talk) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)

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As a TV and film producer, director, writer and editor, Craig has produced hundreds of projects, both long and short form. With a Master of Arts in Communications from Baylor University, he has explored a variety of formats including dramatic and journalistic storytelling with a focus on documentary. In addition to his film accomplishments, Craig has written multiple articles for national publications. He also won a national PBS Advertising & Promotion award and was a contributing finalist in a Pictures of the Year International award. His work includes the feature-length docudrama https://www.insanityofgodmovie.com/ (The Insanity of God), distributed internationally by Word Films and screened on more than 500 theaters through Fathom Events. This film had a national theatrical release with a viewership of 88,000 and sold $1.2M in tickets. He is Executive Producer on https://www.freeburmarangers.org/ (Free Burma Rangers), a Fathom/LifeWay documentary that was screened in theaters nationally in February 2020. Currently, Craig is co-host and producer of the Emmy-nominated TV docu-series called https://www.goodroad.tv/ (The Good Road). This series explores the world of philanthropy and aired on Public Television in April 2020. It is presented by WETA in Washington, DC. Craig is also producing a podcast called https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/phi-lan-thro-pol-o-gy/id1494308090 (Philanthropology )and has written a book called https://amzn.to/3eJ68tI (Confessions of a Philanthropologist).  Craig lives with his wife and twin 18-year-olds in Richmond, Virginia. He loves his family so much that he even agreed to be the PTSA President for his daughter’s public high school, Maggie L. Walker Governor’s School. Now THAT is a commitment to family! Follow The Good Road on https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/thegoodroadtv/ (Linkedin), https://www.instagram.com/thegoodroad/ (Instagram), https://www.facebook.com/thegoodroadtv (Facebook), https://twitter.com/thegoodroadtv (Twitter), and https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCad99NH25YXvjswXxJZsrWA (You Tube). Check out https://amzn.to/3BpXMRr (Free Burma Rangers on Amazon Prime). Follow Craig at: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm11064814/ (IMDB), https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigrolanmartin/ (Linkedin), or https://www.facebook.com/craig.r.martin.92 (Facebook) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com/ (loriadamsbrown.com)Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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Kathy Khang is a writer, speaker, and yoga teacher. Kathy is the author of https://amzn.to/3ywu7Uh (Raise Your Voice: Why We Stay Silent and How to Speak Up). She is a columnist for https://sojo.net/biography/kathy-khang (Sojourners magazine) and also writes for https://faithandleadership.com (Faith & Leadership), https://christiansforsocialaction.org (Evangelicals for Social Actions and Inheritance). She is one of the authors of https://amzn.to/3wtcyTD (More Than Serving Tea) (InterVarsity Press, 2006), blogs at http://www.kathykhang.com (www.kathykhang.com), tweets and Instagrams as https://www.instagram.com/mskathykhang/ (@mskathykhang), posts at https://www.facebook.com/kathykhangauthor?ref=bookmarks (www.facebook.com/kathykhangauthor), and partners with other bloggers, pastors, and Christian leaders to highlight and move the conversation forward on issues of race, ethnicity, and gender within the church. Kathy also has worked for the past 20 years with a national parachurch organization. She is the author of https://amzn.to/2TPbz2S (Alabaster Guided Meditations, Psalms Vol. 1 and 2 ()IV Press, 2020). She also serves on the board of Evangelicals for Social Action. Ms. Khang was a newspaper reporter in Green Bay and Milwaukee, WI before spending more than two decades in vocational ministry where she focused on leadership development and training leaders in diversity and justice. She holds a BS in journalism from Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. She is based in the north suburbs of Chicago and is honored to be mom to three incredible young adults.  Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com (loriadamsbrown.com)Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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https://www.richvillodas.com (Rich Villodas) is the Brooklyn-born lead pastor ofhttps://newlife.nyc ( New Life Fellowship), a large multiracial church with more than seventy-five countries represented in Elmhurst, Queens. Rich holds a Master of Divinity from Alliance Theological Seminary. He enjoys reading widely, preaching and writing on contemplative spirituality, justice-related matters, and the art of preaching. He's been married to Rosie since 2006 and they have two beautiful children, Karis and Nathan. His first book, https://amzn.to/3hfV3AQ (The Deeply Formed Life), is now available wherever books are sold. You can follow him here on https://twitter.com/richvillodas (Twitter), https://www.instagram.com/richvillodas/ (Instagram), and https://www.facebook.com/rvillodas (Facebook). https://linktr.ee/richvillodas (https://linktr.ee/richvillodas) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com (loriadamsbrown.com)Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Dr. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author, speaker, consultant, and therapist. Chuck has been married to Sara for 27 years, and has two adult daughters. He is the author of: https://amzn.to/3h0NkX7 (When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse) https://amzn.to/3gWPhE4 (Leaving Egypt: Finding God in Wilderness Places) https://amzn.to/3vOnfjy (Wholeheartedness: Busyness, Exhaustion and Healing the Divided Self), https://amzn.to/3gQuIub (Toughest People to Love: How to Understand, Lead, and Love the Difficult People in Your Life -- Including Yourself).

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Dr. Michelle Ami Reyes is the Vice President of the https://www.asianamericanchristiancollaborative.com (Asian American Christian Collaborative) and Co-Executive Director at https://www.madeforpax.org (Pax). She is also the Scholar in Residence at Hope Community Church and author of https://amzn.to/3v2pkZH (Becoming All Things: How Small Changes Lead to Lasting Connections Across Cultures). Michelle lives in Austin, TX with her husband, Aaron, and two kids. Find about her work on her website: https://michelleamireyes.com (https://michelleamireyes.com) Follow her work at: https://twitter.com/aachristcollab (@aachristcollab) and https://twitter.com/hopeccatx (@hopeccatx) and her wisdom on twitter at: https://twitter.com/drmichellereyes?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (@drmichellereyes) She speaks to us about how proximity to people who are different from us leads to empathy which leads to action. She references https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/march/race-diversity-multiethnic-church-movement-promise.html (Dr. Korie Edwards's Christianity Today article )on multicultural churches. She references Dr. Michael Emerson, a sociologist who says that 70% of multicultural churches still have white male leadership. His bookhttps://amzn.to/3fq8ZY4 ( Divided by Faith) is insightful on race in the church. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com (loriadamsbrown.com)Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Karen Gonzalez is a speaker, writer, public theologian, and immigrant advocate, who herself immigrated from Guatemala as a child. Karen is a former public school teacher and attended Fuller Theological Seminary, where she studied theology and missiology. For the last 12 years, she has been a non-profit professional, currently working for World Relief, an organization in Baltimore, MD that serves immigrants and refugees. She wrote a book about her own immigration story and the many immigrants found in the Bible: https://amzn.to/2RgagZi (The God Who Sees: Immigrants, The Bible, and the Journey to Belong )(Herald Press, May 2019) and is currently at work on her second book. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com (loriadamsbrown.com) Mentioned in this episode: Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch

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https://kristindumez.com (Kristin Kobes Du Mez) is Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University. She holds a PhD from the University of Notre Dame and her research focuses on the intersection of gender, religion, and politics. She has written for the Washington Post, NBC News, Religion News Service, Christianity Today, and The Daily Beast, and has been interviewed on NPR, CBS, and the BBC, among other outlets. Her most recent book is https://amzn.to/3vHQNzP (Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation.) Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. On Clubhouse https://www.joinclubhouse.com/@loriadbr (@loriadbr). Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) or http://loriadamsbrown.com (loriadamsbrown.com) Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Tiffany Bluhm is the author of https://amzn.to/3tR7Fn5 (Prey Tell: Why We Silence Women Who Tell the Truth and How Everyone Can Speak Up). She is a sought after speaker, writer, and podcast co-host of the popular podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/why-tho/id1437939954 (Why Tho), a show answering the existential and nonsensical questions we ask ourselves, with author and speaker, https://www.ashabercrombie.org (Ashley Abercrombie). She speaks at conferences and events, and her work has been featured in World Vision Magazine, Publisher’s Weekly, Sojourners, Red Letter Christians, the YouVersion Bible app, Jenny McCarthy Show, and more. As a minority, immigrant woman with a interracial family, she is passionate about women’s equality, justice, and dignity.  Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse @loriadbr. Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) and at https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference) Mentioned in this episode: Join our Patreon Community for exclusive content, experiences and merch Help with life, career, and family- Coaching with Lori

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Dr. Beth Allison Barr (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is associate professor of history and associate dean of the Graduate School at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women’s history, and church history. She is the president of the Conference on Faith and History and is a member of Christians for Biblical Equality. Barr has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, and Religion News Service, and is a regular contributor to The Anxious Bench, the popular Patheos website on Christian history. Her book https://amzn.to/3vjBj4J (The Making of Biblical Womanhood:  How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth )releases April 20. Dr. Barr on https://www.npr.org/2021/04/15/987552105/the-making-of-biblical-womanhood-tackles-contradictions-in-religious-practice (NPR interview) from April 15, 2021 Dr. Barr interviewed by Dr. Scot McKnight on the https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/making-biblical-womanhood-conversation-beth-allison/id1078739516?i=1000517296125 (Kingdom Roots podcast) on April 15, 2021 Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse @loriadbr. Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) and at https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference (https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference)


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Bronwyn Lea has been active for twenty years in vocational ministry to serve, encourage, teach, and mobilize Christians of all ages. A graduate of law school and seminary, she ministers in her local church and also heads up https://www.propelwomen.org/content/propel-sophia-landing-page/gk9bjk (Propel Sophia), the Christian living wisdom resource for Propel Women. Bronwyn is mom to three school-aged kids, who keep her somewhere between hilarious laughter and desperate prayer on any given day. She and her fellow South African husband live in Northern California, where they count the men and women in their church as both friends and family. Learn more at www.bronlea.com. Order her book https://amzn.to/3vgWapg (Beyond Awkward Side Hugs:  Living as Christian Brothers and Sisters in a Sex-Crazed World.)

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April has been a visionary and challenger her entire life. In 2019, she founded Ezer + Co., a company committed to activating women toward wholeness in life and leadership in full partnership with men. April pastored in the local church for nearly 20 years at two of the most influential churches in the country. For the last 5 years she’s coached hundreds of leaders and has spoken nationally. She’s crazy passionate coming alongside leaders who are influencing along the margins of culture. Her first book, Redefining the Role of the Youth Worker: A Manifesto for Integration is a compelling vision for the church’s role with teenagers. Because April loves teenagers, she loves partnering with Stuff You Can Use and Fuller Youth Institute. She coaches, speaks, and writes frequently on living and leading with wholeness. She loves talking about leadership, soul care, youth ministry, and caring for your body. She’s always been a tomboy with sparkly shoes and reads more than she can put into practice. She’s still madly in love with her high school sweetheart, Brian. Together, they co-parent 3 fabulous kiddos and live in Orange County, CA. WEBSITE: EZERANDCO.COM FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ezerandco/ INSTAGRAM:

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Tara Beth Leach is a pastor at https://www.christchurch.us/ (Christ Church of Oak Brook) in the western suburbs of Chicago. She previously served as senior pastor of http://www.paznaz.org/ (First Church of the Nazarene of Pasadena) (“PazNaz”) in Southern California and has pastored in Illinois and New York. She is a graduate of Olivet Nazarene University and Northern Theological Seminary. She is a regular writer for http://www.missioalliance.org/author/tarabeth-leach/ (Missio Alliance) and writes and speaks widely about women in ministry and church leadership. She is the author of https://amzn.to/32NM3fu (Emboldened), https://amzn.to/3exzP00 (Radiant Church), and https://amzn.to/2S4l8tK (Forty Days on Being a Six). She has two beautiful and rambunctious sons, and has been married to the love of her life, Jeff, since 2006. Visit her website and read her blog at http://tarabethleach.com/ (tarabethleach.com). Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TaraBeth82 (@TaraBeth82).

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Danielle Strickland is a Canadian spiritual leader, justice advocate, communicator, peacemaker and author whose aggressive compassion has served people firsthand in countries all over the world. From establishing justice departments and church plants, to launching global anti-trafficking initiatives, to creating new initiatives to mobilize people towards transformational living. Danielle trains, advocates, and inspires people to live differently through initiatives like: Amplify Peace, Brave Global, Infinitum and Women's Speaker Collective. https://www.daniellestrickland.com/ (https://www.daniellestrickland.com/) Her latest book released in 2020, "https://biblegateway.christianbook.com/better-together-women-divide-transform-future/danielle-strickland/9780785230151/pd/5230151 (Better Together: How Women and Men Can Heal the Divide and Work Together to Transform the Future)", her podcast is listened to by thousands globally, and closer to home, she’s on the teaching team at The Meeting House. Currently based in Toronto, Canada, Danielle is the proud mom of 3 boys, wife to Stephen, and as an enneagram 7, has been affectionately called the "ambassador of fun". @daniellejstrickland @djstrickland /DanielleJStrickland The Danielle Strickland Podcast CONTACT / Katie at admin@boundlesscom.ca 

Danielle references the book https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0802777961/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_0802777961 (Willful Blindness )as one that helped her see how many stay in toxic church cultures.

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https://www.dianelangberg.com (Dr. Diane Langberg) is globally recognized for her 47 years of clinical work with trauma victims. She has trained caregivers on six continents in responding to trauma and to the abuse of power. She also directs her own counseling practice in Jenkintown, PA, Diane Langberg, Ph.D. & Associates, which includes seventeen therapists with multiple specialties. Dr. Langberg’s newest book is Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church. Other books include Counseling Survivors of Sexual Abuse, On the Threshold of Hope (with accompanying workbook), In Our Lives First: Meditations for Counselors and Suffering the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores. Dr. Langberg is the recipient of the Distinguished Alumna Achievements from Taylor University., the American Association of Christian Counselors Caregiver Award, The Distinguished President’s award, and the Philadelphia Council of Clergy’s Christian Service Award. She is married and has two sons and four grandchildren. https://www.dianelangberg.com (https://www.dianelangberg.com)

Dr. Langberg cofounded the Global Trauma Recovery Institute at Missio Seminary in Philadelphia.

She is also on the board of https://www.netgrace.org (GRACE), Godly Response to Abuse in a Christian Environment, founded by https://twitter.com/BozT?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Boz Tchividjian).

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Dr. Graham Joseph Hill is the Principal of Stirling Theological College (University of Divinity) in Melbourne, Australia. His author website is www.grahamjosephhill.com. Graham has planted and pastored churches and been in theological education for over twenty years. He is the author or editor of ten books including "Holding Up Half the Sky". Graham also directs TheGlobalChurchProject.com. Graham hosts a podcast called The Global Church Project.


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This episode is coming to you for such a time as this.  With spiritual abuse, abuse of power, and sexual abuse becoming such common news in our time, we have to admit that there are many churches with cultures and systems that are unhealthy and even harmful.  If you are a pastor, a church leader, a congregant or just want to be a part of making a difference in a way that helps others flourish, listen in closely to the research and the harsh reality of what is happening on our watch. There is hope of how to do better, and how to be a part of creating goodness cultures together.   Our guests today are a father and daughter co-author duo who walked through a painful reality at Willow Creek church in Chicago, and that experience led them to want to help others.   Dr. Scot McKnight is a world-renowned speaker, writer, professor and equipper of the Church. He is a recognized authority on the historical Jesus, early Christianity, and the New Testament. His blog, https://www.christianitytoday.com/scot-mcknight/about/about.html (Jesus Creed), is a leading Christian blog. Dr. McKnight’s books include https://www.amazon.com/dp/1612615783/?tag=christtoday-20 (The Jesus Creed), https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IOZUDA/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2 (The King Jesus Gospel), https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077CXZ2CD/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i1 (The Blue Parakeet,) https://www.amazon.com/Real-Mary-Scot-McKnight-December/dp/B01B98EXKO/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1614661767&sr=1-1 (The Real Mary), and Junia is Not Alone.  A sought after speaker, he has been interviewed on several radio and television programs as well as spoken at numerous local churches, conferences, colleges, and seminaries in the United States and around the world. Scot McKnight is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature and the Society for New Testament Studies. McKnight’s books have been translated into Chinese, Korean, Russian, and Portuguese.  You can find him, along with the other 50.5K followers https://twitter.com/scotmcknight (on twitter) at: @scotmcknight  Laura Barringer is a teacher of primary-grade students. She is the co-author of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1612615813?pf_rd_r=DZW1HYYHWSW3JGZYY2G0&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=b5e704d7-9bd1-42ff-82e9-c2f855593e81&pd_rd_w=eqJhv&pd_rd_wg=NgWHs&ref_=pd_gw_unk (Sharing God's Love: The Jesus Creed for Children) and wrote a teacher lesson and activity guide to accompany the book. She is also co-author of A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. Laura is a graduate of Wheaton College (IL) and currently resides in the Chicago suburbs with her husband, Mark, and three beagles. 

You can find her https://twitter.com/laurambarringer (on twitter) at:  @laurambarringer 

Buy their book and highlight it as many times as I did, because https://amzn.to/3aDAcVM (A Church Called TOV:  Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing), will likely be, outside of the Bible, the most important book you read this year.  Let's be TOV and create TOV systems and TOV churches together so we can all flourish. 

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Ever wondered what some alternatives to the Billy Graham rule could be so that women can still be developed as leaders as much as men can in the church? Anna Morgan has.  She not only has wondered, she has researched this topic and found some practical ways to address this issue so that women and men can both flourish in leadership spaces. Anna Morgan has been in full-time pastoral ministry for over twenty years. She has a background in worship and creative ministries and has been the executive pastor of the ministries of City Church Chicago, a ten-year-old multi-ethnic church in downtown Chicago, for the past five years. Anna is also a leadership coach and trainer, working to develop local church leaders around the US and Australia. Anna earned a masters degree in Global Leadership from Fuller Theological Seminary and is currently working on a doctorate of missiology at Fuller Seminary, doing applied research into the development of female leaders in local churches. Anna has been married to John Morgan for fourteen years and has three adult daughters. You can find her at City Church Chicago and on Linkedin and Facebook. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.  On Clubhouse @loriadbr. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook on Twitter at @loriadbr https://linktr.ee/aworldofdifference


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Kelly is a life coach and a certified Enneagram coach with over 20 years of experience developing leaders.  She is an Enneagram 2, and love to help others learn how to INVEST in their lives and discover their WHY.   She is a mom of 3 women, and has been married to Fred for 25 years.  She has experience as an elementary school teacher, a pastor, and an entrepreneur.  

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After a lifetime as a proud agnostic, Sue Warnke began following Jesus in 2017. Now Sue is helping spark a movement of authentic faith in the workplace. She is the Senior Director of Content & Communications Experience at Salesforce, part of the founding team of Salesforce's 3000-person global organization https://www.salesforce.com/company/equality/equality-groups/ (Faithforce), and the founder of Leanership.org, an organization that provides best practices for integrating faith and work. 

Sue recommends these resources: https://religiousfreedomandbusiness.org/brian-j-grim (Brian Grim at RFBF) and https://productivemuslim.com/author/abuproductive/ (Mohammed Faris at Productive Muslim).

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Nancy Ortberg has over twenty-two years experience in sales, service and the healthcare industry, including eighteen years in leadership roles. She has in addition, led a staff team in the recruitment and mobilization of thousands of volunteers as well as spoken internationally and domestically on topics of leadership and the creation of corporate culture.  She is currently serving as the CEO of Transforming the Bay with Christ, seeking to help catalyze a holistic Gospel movement in the San Francisco Bay Area. In the first half of her career, Nancy worked in hospital and healthcare administration, providing leadership and team development in large medical organizations. From 1991-2003 she held leadership positions in sales and marketing and did extensive work with non-profit organizations. Nancy is passionate about improving personal and organizational effectiveness and believes that teams are the most dynamic way to produce those results. She believes in helping people bring the best of who they are to what they do best. Her particular interests are leading teams through the process of analyzing, and planning the changes needed to improve how they work together as a team; starting with building trust with each other through getting exceptional results which they can only achieve by being a dynamic leadership team. She is a the founding partner of Teamworx2.co and a consulting partner with Patrick Lencioni, author of The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, Silos Politics and Turf Wars and Death by Meeting. Nancy was a teaching pastor who worked for 13 years at Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago area, and knows what it can mean to do the "good, right and wise" thing, even when it isn't easy, as she mentions on today's podcast.  Nancy is for the church, for women, for men, for wholeness, but above all- for Jesus.  She knows what it means to be brave and follow God, even at great personal cost. Nancy is the author of Looking for God: An Unexpected Journey through tattoos, tofu, & pronouns, Unleashing the Power of Rubber Bands, lessons in non-linear leadership and Seeing in the Dark finding God's light in the most unexpected places. She and her husband, John, live in the Bay Area and have three children: Laura, Mallory, and Johnny. 

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Sheila Wray Gregoire is a popular speaker, marriage blogger, and the author of nine books, including https://www.amazon.com/Good-Girls-Guide-Great-Sex/dp/0310334098 (The Good Girl’s Guide to Great Sex). Her latest book is https://www.amazon.com/Great-Sex-Rescue-Recover-Intended/dp/1540900827/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Great+Sex+Rescue&qid=1611364260&s=books&sr=1-1 (The Great Sex Rescue) that will be coming out in early March. It is based on the largest survey ever done of Christian women. She surveyed 20,000 women for this book, and we get to hear some of the results of that survey on this podcast.  Sheila loves encouraging women in their relationships, both with God and with their husbands, children, and friends. Her passion is for marriage, and she and her husband Keith speak together at marriage outreaches and at FamilyLife Canada marriage conferences. Sheila believes in authenticity, and gives real solutions to the very real and messy problems women, and couples, can face. You can usually find her in Belleville, Ontario, where she’s constantly texting her two young married daughters and knitting. Preferably simultaneously. She blogs at: tolovehonorandvacuum.com where you can also find her resources that she has written and produced.  You can find the rubric she mentioned here, and a https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/great-sex-rescue/?goal=0_5b44e4e8aa-7ed56ac8fd-27284420&mc_cid=7ed56ac8fd&mc_eid=124699f8ef (place to pre-order her latest book) The Great Sex Rescue: https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/gsr-rubric/ (https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/gsr-rubric/)

She has resources to help parents have the sex talk with their kids ages 10-16 in her video curriculum https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/the-whole-story/ (The Whole Story), which has a boy version and a girl version that you can use on a weekend away with your son or daughter.  It is free from purity culture and statements that make girls and boys feel ashamed and trapped in ways some other curriculums have, and it makes it easy to talk about sex with you kid because the videos say the parts that are hard to talk about so you can watch with them.  Has she done us a great favor here or what? She even gives us advice on how to talk with our daughters https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/2020/08/parents-lets-not-add-creepy-sexual-messages-to-your-daughters-first-period/ (about her first period) in a way that's not creepy.

Have a listen today, and pass this episode on to anyone that may need to hear it.  Sheila is a resource to get us to talk about sex in a healthy way.

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Kadi Cole found herself being asked by church leaders how they could help develop more women leaders in their churches.  The result was her bestselling book https://www.developingfemaleleadersbook.com/#LB-a7PuCpMzbvHDUMdy39ZrQo (Developing Female Leaders).  Listen in as Kadi walks us through what she learned in her research, what the obstacles are to be overcome, and practical ways to help female leaders reach their God-given potential.  She leads teams with organizational strategy to be more diverse and inclusive through spiritual growth in order to strengthen team cultures and outcomes.  Kadi lifts lids for women leaders and churches through her extensive experience and knowledge.  Kadi has a new devotional book for leaders coming out soon.  Kadi joins us today to walk us through the realities of the challenges, and how we can lift the lids on female leaders and ultimately the church as a whole, together.

kadicole.com is an outstanding resource for all of the coaching, training, teaching and strategizing Kadi has to offer.

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We are kicking off a new season, and a new series on Women in the Church.  Our first guest is setting the foundation for us academically, and is full of resources we can read on our own to study.  Pastor Kate Wallace Nunneley is co-founder of The Junia Project and Assistant Pastor of Preaching & Discipleship at Cucamunga Christian Fellowship in CA. She loves adventuring in the outdoors with her husband Leif & their one year old son Jonathan. Sites to check out for articles: http://juniaproject.com https://www.cbeinternational.org/ http://margmowczko.com

Books to read for research on women in the church: https://kristindumez.com/books/jesus-and-john-wayne/ https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/book-review/icons-christ-biblical-and-systematic-theology-womens-ordination https://www.amazon.com/Making-Biblical-Womanhood-Subjugation-Became/dp/1587434709 https://www.amazon.com/Real-Mary-Evangelical-Christians-Embrace/dp/1557255237 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0735289840

Books on Egalitarian Marriage: https://www.amazon.com/Preparing-Couples-Love-Marriage-Resource/dp/1426753209 https://www.amazon.com/Together-Reclaiming-Co-Leadership-Tim-Evans/dp/0991428803 https://www.amazon.com/Making-Marriage-Beautiful-Lifelong-Intimacy/dp/0781414083

Authors that write about practical egalitarian theology: 1.  Craig Keener https://craigkeener.com/product/paul-women-and-wives-marriage-and-womens-ministry-in-the-letters-of-paul/ 2. Ron Pierce https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/discovering-biblical-equality-complementarity-without-hierarchy/9780830828340/pd/828346?event=ESRCG https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/partners-in-marriage-and-ministry/ronald-pierce/9780982046524/pd/046524?event=ESRCG 3. Mimi Haddad https://www.cbeinternational.org/persons/mimi-haddad The Priscilla Papers:  https://www.cbeinternational.org/publication/priscilla-papers-academic-journal

Bookstores: https://www.thefoundrypublishing.com (The Nazarene publishing house) https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com

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Pastor Yasmin Roohi pastors Centerset church along with her husband Pastor Ali Roohi in the Silicon Valley.  They planted Centerset church together, birthed out of a dream and a calling that they shared since they were dating.  Yasmin is an Iranian-American who grew up in Italy.  She cares deeply about justice, and longs to make a difference in the lives of those who are oppressed and treated unjustly.  She and her husband are raising 2 girls ages 4 and 2, and she strives to make the world a better place for her girls to grow up in.  She gives us her perspective on what it must have been like for a young Middle Eastern woman named Mary to say "yes" to the monumental task of carrying, birthing and raising the Messiah.

https://centerset.church Books Yasmin recommends: Why Not Women? https://cbeinternational.christianbook.com/not-women-scripture-missions-ministry-leadership/loren-cunningham/9781576581834/pd/581837?event=ESRCG Just Lead https://www.amazon.com/Just-Lead-Complaining-Nonsense-Practical/dp/1118314395 Developing Female Leaders by Kadi Cole https://www.developingfemaleleadersbook.com

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Dr. Kevin Timpe currently holds the William H. Jellema Chair in Christian Philosophy at Calvin University. He’s written or edited eleven books and published over 50 articles or papers. He’s also the founder and president of 22 Advocacy, which engages in educational advocacy for students with disabilities in public schools. He’s spoken on disability to both academic and lay audiences around the country and in the UK.  He has written a book entitled Disability and Inclusive Communities, which we discuss on today's episode to know how to better support, advocate for, and befriend those with disabilities in our societies in the holiday season and beyond.

https://www.amazon.com/Such-Kingdom-Practical-Theology-Disability/dp/1944967613/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFS8SpwioZ4 https://faithanddisability.org/past-institutes/ Kevin's blog: https://kevintimpe.com/blog/ Kevin Timpe kevin.timpe@gmail.com

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Michael is a director of Radius Global Cities Network, a think-tank devoted to the interface of the church and cities as well as a professor teaching at a couple of graduate schools. When we're not in a pandemic, Michael and his family live in a global city in Southeast Asia. Michael was raised in the international cities of Taipei, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Manila. At an early age, Michael developed a love for the vibrancy of cities. After completing a BS in Social Work from Samford University and working for a couple of years, he went to Gateway Seminary in the San Francisco Bay Area where he completed an MDiv and ThM (theology). Michael and his wife moved to Southeast Asia in 2005, working in a variety of roles with development agencies. During this time, Michael completed a PhD in urban missiology. Michael serves on the faculty of two graduate schools. In addition to a number of articles and book chapters, Michael has authored/co-authored several books, including: Sowing Seeds of Change: Cultivating Transformation in the City(Urban Loft, 2015) and City Shaped Churches: Planting Churches in the Global Era (Urban Loft, 2018). https://radiusglobal.org/ https://radiusglobal.org/missioncity/ https://www.amazon.com/City-Shaped-Churches-Planting-Global/dp/0998917788/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35QIE5HS9YUJO&dchild=1&keywords=city+shaped+churches&qid=1607984259&sprefix=city+shaped+churches%2Caps%2C289&sr=8-1 https://www.amazon.com/Sowing-Seeds-Change-Cultivating-Transformation/dp/0692509534/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&qid=1607984308&refinements=p_27%3AMichael+D.+Crane&s=books&sr=1-3&text=Michael+D.+Crane https://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Christianity-Asia-Reflections-ebook/dp/B07YLMKXRP/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&qid=1607984308&refinements=p_27%3AMichael+D.+Crane&s=books&sr=1-4&text=Michael+D.+Crane Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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Eva Leung is a chemical engineer, a TCK, a daughter of first generation immigrants to the US from Hong Kong. She is an expat in Singapore working in quality assurance in a contract manufacturing company and has years of experience in the pharmaceutical industry. It was neither growing up in Arizona and Singapore, nor her studies at Princeton where she encountered the life changing conversations that led her to want to follow Jesus. It was a couple of co-workers at Merck that told her about their faith. This life change revolutionized everything for Eva, and began her journey at the intersectionality of faith and work.

She has always wanted to live the exact plot of Bicentennial Man by building a robot that can work with human body parts, and she wanted to go into healthcare earlier in life. Since she hates blood, chemical engineering it was.

She spent some time in Singapore as a kid, attending Singapore American School when her dad worked as a expat in Singapore. Moving to Singapore as a expat herself, as an adult when she transferred to Singapore with Merck Pharmaceuticals gave her a whole different view of the religious diversity within Singapore, which is the most religiously diverse nation in the world.

She recommends Every Good Endeavor by Tim Keller.

Every Good Endeavor: Connecting Your Work to God's Work https://smile.amazon.com/dp/1594632820/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_wUVZFb8YR49MD

When Sinners Say I Do by Dave Harvey

When Sinners Say I Do: Discovering the Power of the Gospel for Marriage https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0976758261/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_NTVZFbZFABD47

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Our second guest on our Faith & Work series is Phillip Trent III. Phillip is a computer engineer at Apple who received his undergraduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania. He is originally from Nashville, but moved to Philadelphia for college, and then landed in the Bay Area for work in 2018. He’s usually hiking, backpacking, or traveling, but when you do find him at home, he’s likely hosting a game night or working on some new cocktail recipes. Phillip talks with us about what faith in tech can be like, and how to be both intellectual and have a strong faith. He shares his best practices on faith and work with us, and he discusses following his bent in a way that He loves what he gets to do in his career. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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Ever wondered how to bring your whole self to work, even the faith side? Victoria Fishel, an oncology nurse in the Bay Area, and Megan Haverkorn who works at Google discuss how their faith impacts the way they show up at work. Listen to hear practical tips on how to be more aware of your spiritual side as you work in your workplace each day whether it’s over zoom at Google like Megan or treating patients in their vulnerable states like Victoria. Faith isn’t something just for weeknights and weekends. These two career women walk us through their own personal journeys of how their faith compels them to do their best work and to have compassion with those around them. Listen in to this first episode in our Faith & Work series. Victoria Fischer moved from Texas to San Jose, California in 2018 where she works as an RN. When she is not at work you can find her hiking, reading, traveling (pre-covid), or pointing out which part of her body is currently the coldest. Megan Haverkorn is (and always be) 100% Texan, but she moved to San Jose, California in 2018 and currently works for Google. Her favorite things are too numerous to mention but she’s almost always in the mood for musicals, swing sets, Blue Bell ice cream, and the beach. Listen to them talk about work and faith and the way they blend into one in each of their careers. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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Dr. Sandra Boesch worked for IBM for 10 years, for Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore, and has lived on 3 continents. She recently repatriated to Arizona in the US. She has worked in communications, marketing, public relations, software product management, sales enablement, and education technologies. She has worked as a worldwide manager and lived in Latin America, Asia, and North America. She love cultures and cultural differences.

She believes and is excited about continued education. She holds a BS in Communications, an MBA with specializations in finance and marketing, an MIS, and a Ph.D. in Information systems plus several other certificates. She is bilingual, speaking English and Spanish, and spent 13 years living and working in Singapore with her husband and two kids. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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Freida Adams, the retired Director of Border Health for New Mexico talks about the coalition she stays involved with, the questions the Biden administration has already been asking in her circles to get their transition plan in place regarding Covid and the situation with immigrants, especially kids in cages on the border. She talks about the long wait to see a woman become Vice President, and how that made her want to reach out to her granddaughter to celebrate that moment. She talks about her excitement that our new Vice President is also a Black woman and an Indian-American as well. She is vulnerable about how it hurts to see lifelong friends and family use hateful words on social media to connect peoples’ politics to the state of their soul, and how she cares for her own soul in the midst of it all. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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As the US citizens head to the polls, Eric Woodard reminds us of what his time of working in the White House taught him about what we should consider when voting for a US President. Dr. Eric Woodard is an internationally recognized high performance executive career coach and mentor dedicated to helping professionals at all levels win at work.

Part of the reason Eric is so focused on career success is because he struggled so much early in his career. After plowing through the working world for decades, he now loves passing on the secrets of career success he wish he'd known at the beginning of his career.

Beyond advising numerous students, schools, employers, and professionals at all levels about career success, he has created and directed internship and other career programs at the White House, on Capitol Hill, at the U.S. State Department, and the Smithsonian Institution.

Eric is the author of multiple books about crossing the bridge between school and work, including Your Last Day of School, and The Ultimate Guide to Internships. He holds a B.A. in Biology from the University of Missouri, and both an M.A. in International Affairs and an Ed.D. in Human and Organizational Learning from George Washington University where he researched the nature of internships that develop intern soft skills.

Eric lives in Alexandria, VA with his amazing wife Keri and their 4 fantastic kids.

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Michelle Ferrigno Warren is the Advocacy and Strategic Engagement Director for the Christian Community Development Association, based in Chicago, IL. She has been working in Christian community development for 27 years utilizing her skills as an educator, non-profit manager and public policy specialist. Michelle earned her Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics from Cedarville University and later earned her Master's in Public Administration from the University of Colorado. She is an immigration, education and human service policy specialist. Michelle is an adjunct faculty member at Denver Seminary in their Justice and Mission’s program teaching, Political Advocacy, Doing Justice in the Public Square. She is the author of The Power of Proximity, Moving Beyond Awareness to Action, published with IVP in 2017. In 2019/2020 she ran an unsuccessful bid for election to the US Senate in Colorado. She is married to David Warren, Executive Director of Open Door Ministries in Denver. They have 3 adult children. Her book can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Proximity-Moving-Beyond-Awareness/dp/0830843906. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen. Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook


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Arturo Jiménez grew up in Denver, Colorado, where he still lives and works. Arturo is a bilingual lawyer who has practiced federal immigration law since 1998. His humanitarian practice has represented thousands of individuals in Colorado and other States. Arturo's law office helps unify families through spouse petitions, family immigration, naturalization, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), visas for victims and deportation defense in immigration court. Most of all, they seek to support the humanitarian rights of all individuals with an emphasis on immigrant children. In 2019, he wrote a book called “Dreamers Nightmare: The U.S. War On Immigrant Latinx Children,” where he uses his experiences with clients and at the border to describe how US immigration policy has terrorized immigrant children for decades.

Arturo also served on the Denver Public Schools Board of Education from 2007 until 2015. He is happily married to his wife Angelina and is the proud father of three children, Metzli, Leonor, and Citlamina. Arturo’s book on Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/DREAMers-NIGHTMARE-IMMIGRANT-LATINX-CHILDREN-ebook/dp/B07XZCZR72 Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Gracia Berrios works for One Justice in San Francisco to help DACA immigrants to find legal help with their immigration process. She immigrated to the US from Peru as a baby with her family, and went through the grueling years of legal immigration, watching her family walk through the emotionally and financially taxing process. She now wants to help those who need the resources to make legal immigration work, despite the almost weekly setbacks that the current administration’s changes make increasingly difficult. Listen as she talks about what went right in her own journey of immigration, and what she hopes gets repeated. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Christopher Kinnison is an immigration lawyer in the US. He travels to dentition centers across Louisiana where ICE currently holds immigrants. He takes us on a deep dive into the ins and outs of what goes on with immigrants in the US court rooms today. He speaks about his views on current policies and processes. He shares his own story of seeing Cambodians flee from the Khmer Rouge into Thailand when he was a boy growing up there, and how he got to see the killing fields near Phnom Penh for himself when he later taught at a university in Cambodia and worked with IDP’s for a couple of years. Listen to Chris tell about the immigrants he gets to interact with, and what he really thinks about what we read about immigrants in the news. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Lisa Rodriguez Watson is the National Director of Missio Alliance. She has served as an urban church planter, collegiate minister, and worked with refugees in Albania. She is the daughter of a Cuban immigrant. Her heart to see people reconciled to God and to one another has led her to invest her life, family, and ministry in places and people that have often been overlooked by the world. Lisa served as co-founder of a grassroots organization in Memphis, TN that was committed to mobilizing Christians to love their undocumented neighbors and consider an appropriate Christian response to the US’s immigration crisis. She lives in Washington, DC, and is a good steward of her citizenship by being a voice for the voiceless in the halls of government as a constituent. She and her husband Matt are on the pastoral team of Christ City Church. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Amanda Stillman grew up in Asia, and is now living in Chad, working as the Africa Programs Director for Neverthirst, à nonprofit based in Birmingham AL focused on bringing clean and living water to the poor through the local church. She’s been the weird foreigner most of her life and is ok with that. She loves traveling, languages, cultures and being a part of the global church family. She is very thankful for the crazy, fun, sometimes dangerous adventures she’s had around the world and all the wonderful people who have befriended her, helped her, and inspired her along the way. Listen in to hear her talk about working with refugees and the inspiration they bring her. Hear her talk about dangerous journeys many refugees took and survived. Listen as she talks about both prayers she prayed and connections she made for a friend immigrating to the US, and how she has been prayed for by her friends in Chad in ways that help her know she is family. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Alan Cross, has been a Southern Baptist Pastor in California, Alabama and Mississippi for over 20 years. He is an author of books and has written multiple articles about welcoming the immigrant, racism in the church, and how to tell a better story. He has worked to advocate for government policies at the state and national level that show love to our immigrant neighbors. He shares about his experiences with immigrants and refugees in the US South, on the US-Mexico border in El Paso, TX, and what we can do now to SPEAK on behalf of those who have no agency. Follow him on Twitter at @AlanLCross. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Bella Adams-Brown shares her thoughts and reactions to the 100 year history of women’s right to vote in the US. She gives a Generation Z, 12-year-old perspective on the complicated struggle for votes for women leading up to Aug 18, 1920. Freida Adams shares a Baby Boomer perspective on what it meant to her to see her mom and other women and men in her family vote when she was a child. We discuss the generations and how setting an example leaves a legacy of how important it is that all voices be heard. We discuss the racism that darkened the purity of the movement, and how black women would have to wait many more years to be given access to the polls. We also talk about how voter surpression still exists today, and how we should welcome all voices to speak into our society’s choices for leadership. We commemorate the 19th Ammendment’s 100 year history, and let it spur us on to include more votes into government because some things are just too big to do alone. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Dr. Ron Adams speaks about his life from growing up on a farm to an international job of helping others that took him to live in 3 countries and travel to 30. He talks about a basketball coach who called out the greatness in him as he was growing up, and how he himself later in life called out the greatness in incarcerated inmates serving multiple life sentences where he served as chaplain. He shares about the culture shock of each new country he moved to, and how living internationally taught him that family is more than blood relatives. He shows us how to be brave when moments call for us to help those in hard times whether it means the dangers of disaster relief or following the teachings of Jesus that teach us to care for the prisoners. He talks of his radical life change as a young boy, and his his life has never been the same. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Freida Adams speaks of her life and career from growing up the only child of a single mom after her beloved father passed away from cancer to becoming. a Registered Nurse. She speaks of life in Costa Rica, Venezuela, and Thailand. She reminisces about the years of starting a clinic in Venezuela, and how Venezuelan friends embraced her as family. She speaks of her years as Director of the Office of Border Health in New Mexico where she coordinated international efforts to address needs on the US-Mexico border. She speaks about finding like-minded friends in government in both the US and Mexican governments, and how she is still coordinating volunteers to care for immigrants and those with food insecurities during this time of the COVID-19 pandemic. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Dr. Christopher Adams talks about growing up bicultural and how this drew him to learn about the immigrant experience. This ultimately led him to pursue a degree in which he could learn to both understand and help those having a challenging time in the US education system, especially on the US border with Mexico. Dr. Adams talks about teaching students with trauma, mental health struggles, and how his music he plays for the homeless community gives him connection. Listen and be inspired, challenged and equipped by Dr. Adams as he shares and leads with vulnerability. He spends so much time listening to those he encounters. Here’s our chance to listen to what he has learned, and how we too can make a world of difference as teachers, social justice workers, and human beings. Look for his music with his band C.M. & the Revelators on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nPlCn1ih5Hv7RlW6PQtBl?si=p76q2yFqSOWuNzatkX0c-g. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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Jason Adams-Brown speaks out on over four decades of living in Southeast Asia, and over two decades working in non-profit work including his work in community development and disaster relief. He speaks about leadership lessons he learned following the 2004 Indonesian tsunami that hit Sumatra, and the importance of caring for your own body in order to lead well in hard times. He shares about his experiences with trauma counseling with tsunami victims, and the way telling the story helps alleviate some of the PTSD. He teaches us the importance of hope, and how in this pandemic he is leading Echo Compassion to help those who are struggling in various ways in California. http://echocompassion.com. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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This episode explores the reasons behind making a podcast about making a difference in the world and celebrating our differences to the extent that we truly listen and learn from each others’ perspectives. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. RATE and REVIEW the show on iTunes.   Find Us Online: @aworldof.difference on Instagram and A World of Difference on Facebook.


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