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Sara-Lena Eisermann

The Podcast exploring new ways of working

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Enjoy Part II of the conversation with Edwin van der Geest and Sara Eisermann - Your host of Trust Your Muse.

It`s a premiere and an experiment for both of us: first time live Prototyping in a Podcast.

Topic: Sara`s Tension: "My perfectionist is holding me back on making a decision on how to continue with the podcast project."

Get to know the Prototyping.work methodology. Download the Canvas and start prototyping. It`s very simple step by step process, brings a lot of new insights and most important: a lot of fun! 

Useful Links for you:

  • https://prototyping.work/
  • https://prototyping.work/canvas/
  • https://prototyping.work/methodology/

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Edwin is an Organization Designer with such a catching energy. His passion: Future of Work, Autonomy and progressive organisations. He supports companies transforming towards self management by using a methodology called prototyping.

The topics we talk about in this episode:

  • (Agile) Mindset
  • Leadership
  • Autonomy & Self-Management
  • Change: Everyone can change anytime
  • The Pandemic and the choice of perspective: crisis or transformation?
  • How to start small experiments
  • Edwin`s experiences at Incentro
  • Differences in German / Dutch working cultures
  • and way more!

Get in touch with Edwin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evdgeest/

Check out his website: https://prototyping.work/

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Robert de Bruijn is a Senior Lecturer at the HU University of Applied Science Utrecht, an independent Author and Startup Founder himself. You can get in touch with him via LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkddebruijn/Author

In this episode we talk about:

Agility as a mindset of experimentation, Innovation and how to "learn fast and learn often"

The importance of learning as a 21st century skill and learning how to learn - Robert shares a tool he uses with his student, called Reflective Cycles

We highlight the difference between a Manager and a Leader / Management and Leadership and what it takes to be a leader

The Theory X = employees are lazy and Theory Y = employees are internally motivated; and why the way, people are viewed in organisations needs to change

Organizational Structures like Lean Startup, Design Thinking, Holacracy (putting people in their authority)

The Rhineland Model - to highlight the differences between the Dutch and German working culture

Examples discussed are:

Semco: https://semcostyle.com/; also a good read from the Corpoarte Rebels: https://corporate-rebels.com/guest-post-semco/

W. L. Gore & Associates: https://www.gore.com/about/culture

NRG Flow: https://www.nrgflow.com/

Researchers/ Authors being mentioned:

Gary Hamel: https://www.garyhamel.com/

Steven Denning: http://www.stevedenning.com/About/default.aspx or here https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2016/09/08/explaining-agile/?sh=4ce5c904301b

Clayton Christensen: https://hbr.org/2015/12/what-is-disruptive-innovation

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A small dutch company on its way to transform the oil and gas industry from within by putting people over profit. In this episode, that is also available on Youtube Sara talks to Tine Bieber, Partner at NRG FLOW. They talk about the transformational journey as a company and as individuals. Four years ago the first big Powershift happened with the implementation of Holacracy. Today NRG FLOW is one of the few For-Purpose companies in Europe and transitioned from a hierarchical organizational structure to a self-managed one. Tine shares her own Purpose discovery process and how she found wholeness in this organization, where she can show up completely as herself, in a co-created safe environment.

If you would like to get in touch with Tine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tine-bieber-34786530/

If you wanna know more about the For Purpose Company: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Jo-Aschenbrenner/dp/3800659697

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In this episode, Sara talks with Charlotte Vergouwen, a progressive HR Advisor who is passionate for people and on her mission to transform traditional HR systems into more self-managed organizations. We talk about holacracy and how it works, new ways of setting up salary systems, personal decisions on how to create a fulfilling work environement. We talk about a small Dutch company called NRG Flow and how they want to transform the oil and gas industry from within. We discuss the so called Powershift - that describes the process of an company to operate as a For-Purpose Enterprise, that puts the people over profit and that operates with fully distributed authority.

Links:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-vergouwen-2565098/

The meetup I attended in October 2019 was organized by ResponsiveOrgs. To be found here: https://www.meetup.com/en-AU/ResponsiveOrg-Netherlands/

https://www.enliveningedge.org/event/holacracy-and-beyond-nrg-circles/

https://www.nrgflow.com/

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The Rookie Minds are a group of outgoing individuals, that share a collective goal: to humanize work, shatter stuffy hierarchies and enable everybody to look at the world through their own rookie eyes. They are a fully self-organized consulting company with 20 professionals from different backgrounds, mainly legal & finance experts, using holacracy as a tool.

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Finally, the next episode of Trust Your Muse. 

This time again with Sara, your host.

The for September planned episode did not get approved by the company of the podcast guest.

Super sad - but Sara shares some of her learnings with you and takes you along her workation journey - connecting more and more dots!

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"Diversity is being invited to the party, Inclusion is being asked to dance."

Diversität bedeutet zur Party eingeladen zu sein und Inklusion heißt, zum Tanzen aufgefordert zu werden.

In dieser Folge möchte ich dich an meinem eigenen Lernweg zum Thema Diversity & Inclusion teilhaben lassen.

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Shownotes:

Buch von Caroline Criado-Perez: Unsichtbare Frauen: Wie eine von Daten beherrschte Welt die Hälfte der Bevölkerung ignorier

Paul Potts Story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnp-8GrHOIk

Dokumentation der Fachtagung Divers, fair und digital - Personalauswahl diskriminierungsfrei gestalten: https://www.antidiskriminierungsstelle.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/publikationen/Dokumentationen/Dokumentation_FT_Digital_Recruiting.html

Event HR4Diversity von Talent.io: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euVS6Tem5F0&feature=youtu.be / https://medium.com/@talent.io/tech-hr-part-1-diversity-and-inclusion-101-37f95ca5db90

Marcel Rütten hat mich für seinen Blog interviewt, als ich noch bei der ReDI School gearbeitet habe: https://hr4good.com/2019/07/17/auf-ein-wort-mit-sara-lena-eisermann/

Das Instagram Video von Miriam: https://www.instagram.com/mxriam.jbg/

Falls du mit Füsun in Kontakt treten möchtest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fuesun/?originalSubdomain=de

Hier das Profil von Chris Philipps: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-philipps-a523758/

Wer sich traut: Fuzzy Cultures von Jürgen Bolten: http://iwk-jena.uni-jena.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Bolten_2013_Fuzzy_Cultures.pdf

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Sara is a huge fan of the Corporate Rebels. Their mission is to make work more fun. In 2019 they created a second company: Revolt by Corporate Rebels, that works directly with companies to get them into action and support their transformation from within. After getting to know Joost Minnaar, one of the founders of the Corporate Rebels (internally called "The Professor" as he likes to study) - Sara decided to find out more about Revolt and asked them for an interview. She met Florine van Wulfften Palthe in Utrecht. Before joining Revolt by Corporate Rebels in 2019, she was an Innovation Designer for the pioneering bank in Innovation, ING and worked as a freelance consultant in the US. Now she works at ABN Amro, another dutch bank, as an Innovation Learning Manager. She is a passionate surfer and has always been fascinated by the connection between Innovation and Culture.

In this episode, you will learn about:

  • how Innovation comes from the right organizational circumstances
  • Revolt's experimentation approach
  • how to overcome frustration at work and what it takes to become a happy employee
  • and that it way more efficient to use two pair of brains - instead of only one!

Get in touch with Florine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/florinepalthe/

You find the Corporate Rebels and their Framework (8 Trends) and Bucket List here: https://corporate-rebels.com/trends/

For the topics of self-management and progressive organisation, Lisa Gill provides really valuable insights in her podcast "Leadermorphosis". In this episode she talks to Joost: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1YTru5dthVywZOe4n8gCuY?si=s8sOVF8hR5mDcgcRcuSA2g

This is the book by the Founder of Patagonia, that Florine mentions in the beginning: https://www.amazon.com/Let-People-Surfing-Education-Businessman-Including/dp/0143109677

Enjoy listening and share your feedback: sara.eisermann@googlemail.com

Contact me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sara.eisermann/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-lena-eisermann-0733b7102/

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While Sara was in the Netherlands, she was researching about progressive organizations, initiatives and personalities, that are somehow related to the topic of work. She came across the "Holy Sh*t Show" run by the 3310 - School for Millennials and - curious as she is - decided to participate. It was an evening full of games and unexpected surprises. Sara wanted to find out more and reached out to Wing, the creator of the show, founder of 3310 and a coach for millennials. In this episode, Sara visits Wing at her WeWork Space in Amsterdam and they - both born in the 80s - talk about their own generation, that got labeled in so many different ways: "Generation Y", "Digital Natives", "MTV Generation" - best known as "Millennials".

  • What do they expect from work?
  • What future skills are needed to cope with fast changing environments?
  • What challenges do we face in this age of digitization?
  • How to prevent people from burnout nowadays?

How are we gonna work in the future-now?

Enjoy listening and share your feedback: sara.eisermann@googlemail.com

About the 3310 - School for Millennial:

The millennial, a.k.a. the Nokia 3310 generation, handles a great deal of challenges nowadays. Often seen as spoiled and as the first internet generation to conquer the world. Besides the external pressure, millennials often feel lost in their choices, in loneliness and strive for perfection. How do you survive in a world that is ever changing and is built by their analogue parents? After a diverse career in engineering, corporate consultancy and experiencing a burnout, Wing Yan Man founded 3310 - School for Millennials. At 3310, you learn the practical skills with and from fellow millennials on how to live and work in a new paradigm that suits this generation. With authenticity, love and plenty of 90’s throwbacks, this school strives to serve an inclusive audience wishing for millennials to have the true impact the world needs.

Learn more about Wings shows and initiatives at:

https://www.3310.school/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/wingyanman/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmMMX6i0x_U

Here is the article that I mention from my friend Daniel about the Generation Y and why it might be all a lie:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/die-generation-y-l%25C3%25BCge-daniel-pauw/?trackingId=JgNtXdP6Z2eQzKFX9k2yaw%3D%3D

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The Podcast for exploring new ways of working.

In this Introduction Episode, Sara gives you a preview about what she experienced during her workation in the Netherlands in 2019. She always wanted to live there and experience the "Dutch Way of Working". Even according to the OECD, the Dutch are extremely good at balancing work and private life. So she had one month to accomplish her mission: find proof and answers for her long-held assumptions. The Dutch seem to have more fun at work! They appear to have a natural understanding of dealing with cultural diversity. Hierarchy? Not accepted in the Netherlands! The best example is Buurtzorg (Dutch for “neighborhood care”) - they got rid of all the managers and have instead self-managing teams of nurses. Sara wanted to find more of those examples for innovative organizations and progressive thinkers. And she found them!

If you want to get the Outside-The-Box-Perspective then this is the show for you! Sara has this unique and charismatic ability to easily engage with people, sparking deep conversations. The upcoming episodes will all be related to the topic of work, new work, future of work, progressive work or however you wanna call it. The deep dive goes into: personal development, purpose, self-managing teams, agility, leadership, human relations, diversity, generations and much more.

Send your thoughts and feedback to sara.eisermann@gmail.com