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Jeff Fellows is currently the Business Development Executive for the Naval Air Missiles portfolio at Raytheon, focused on meeting warfighter demands for lethal and survivable mission effectors. With a background in 5th-generation tactics, Jeff has also spearheaded growth strategy and tactical applications for next-generation technology within Raytheon's Advanced Technology Strategic Business Unit.

Retiring from active-duty naval service in January 2022, Jeff spent 20 years leading high-velocity organizations as an officer and combat aviator. An experienced carrier pilot with more than 3,300 flight hours and 660 arrested landings in F/A-18 E/F Super Hornets and F-35C Lightning II aircraft, his career highlights include being hand-picked to command the Navy's first operational F-35C Lightning II squadron, graduating TOPGUN (Class 02-09), serving as a TOPGUN instructor and later TOPGUN Training Officer, a peer-selected role leading the entire instructor cadre, and completing three combat tours across Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “If I know something about you, or you know something about me, then it really just kicks off whatever we're gonna go do as our task, our mission, or our job.”
• “Say yes, be kind, and show up.”
• "Connection is the weapon of elite leaders.”

Resources

• Article: The Increasing Importance of a Best Friend at Work

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Mark Shapiro is an American-born Canadian baseball executive, born April 3, 1967, in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Shapiro joined the Cleveland Indians in 1991, rising from an entry-level role to general manager (2001) and then team president (2010). During his 24 years there, the Indians won six division titles and two AL pennants. He was named Sporting News Executive of the Year twice, in 2005 and 2007.

In 2015 he became president and CEO of the Toronto Blue Jays, succeeding Paul Beeston. He hired Ross Atkins as GM, oversaw renovations to the Dunedin player development complex and Rogers Centre, and signed a five-year extension in December 2025. Under Shapiro, the Blue Jays have reached the postseason five times, including their first AL pennant in 32 years in 2025.

He's also served on several MLB committees, helping introduce the Automated Ball-Strike System, instant replay, and the pitch clock. Personally, he's a dual US-Canadian citizen, has two children, and was portrayed by actor Reed Diamond in the 2011 film Moneyball.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Don't worry about being charismatic. Worry about caring deeply. Don't worry about being a super decision maker. Obsessively focus on the best process and prioritization and understanding leverage.”
• "The best leaders lead a decision-making process. I'm very rarely making a decision, and if I am, we have a good chance to make a bad decision.”
• “If you had to say what is the single most important value to building an elite, best-in-class organization, I would say open-mindedness, is where you have to start.”

Resources

• Book: Team of Teams: New Rules of Engagement for a Complex World by General Stanley McChrystal
• Book: Good to Great by Jim Collins

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

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Dr. Steven Segal is a psychologist, philosophical counsellor, and leadership coach. He is a former Associate Professor at the Macquarie Graduate School of Management and has spent more than two decades working at the intersection of psychology, philosophy, leadership, and organisational life. His work explores how individuals and communities respond to uncertainty, disruption, and existential threats—those moments when people experience a loss of meaning, belonging, identity, or a sense of being at home in the world. Through his therapy, counselling, coaching, teaching, and writing, he helps individuals and organisations navigate complexity, anxiety, and change while remaining connected to what matters most.

His most recent book is Mandela's Leadership Legacy: Emotional and Existential Wisdom. The book was written as a kind of conversation between Martin Heidegger’s existential philosophy and Mandela’s way of being a leader. It used Heidegger to shed light on Mandela’s existential journey and used Mandela to provide an accessible introduction to the philosophy of Heidegger.

A Couple Quotes From This Episode

• "Mandela wasn't the kind of motivational speaker who gets people hyped up. His style was much more thoughtful in the sense of working through emotion."
• "Dialogue across difference, it gets to your identity. And when our identity feels a bit threatened, we tend to become reactive rather than listening. Mandela was able to listen when there were threats to his identity."

Resources

• Book: Business Feel: From the Science of Management to the Philosophy of Leadership
• Philosophical Reflections and Insights for Psychologists and Psychotherapists (forthcoming)
• Website - Dr. Steven Segal

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

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Dr. Tyson Yunkaporta is an academic, arts critic, and researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland, Australia. He works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne, where he also founded the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab.

He carves traditional tools and weapons alongside his academic work, and his writing process draws on this practice, often beginning with images and carvings rather than words. He is best known as the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World (2019), which won the Small Publishers' Adult Book of the Year at the Australian Book Industry Awards and the Ansari Institute's Randa and Sherif Nasr Book Prize on Religion and the World. He followed it with Right Story, Wrong Story and has a third book, Snake Talk, rounding out what he describes as a trilogy.

His work applies Indigenous systems knowledge, not just Indigenous stories or artifacts, to questions of governance, economics, and organizational design. He also co-founded the Indigenous Systems Knowledge Collective, a nonprofit that supports Indigenous systems thinkers and helps organizations apply relational, complexity-based approaches to leadership and strategy. He lives in Melbourne.

Dr. Toby Newstead is a respected leadership scholar and practitioner at the University of Tasmania, located in lutruwita on the lands of the palawa and pakana people. With a background in corporate change, leadership development, and professional communications, she brings practical expertise to her academic, coaching, and consulting work.

An internationally recognized researcher, Dr. Newstead specializes in virtues-based leadership development, leadership ethics, and leadership in the volunteer sector. Her research appears in top journals. In 2023, she published a book titled Leadership and Virtues: Understanding and Practicing Good Leadership.

Dr. Newstead is an established executive leadership coach and deeply engaged with industry and community. She regularly delivers impactful workshops, keynotes, and facilitation sessions. Dr Newstead’s research, teaching, coaching and facilitation has local and international impact, shaping the leaders of today and tomorrow.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "We don't say, 'I think, therefore I am,' but we say, 'I am located, therefore I am.'"
• "Increase isn't about the quantitative growth of the system... Increase is about the growth of complexity and the growth of interconnectedness and interdependencies in the system."
• "Innovation doesn't come from a singular genius. It comes from the most diverse community possible that you can create, the most diverse networks."

Resources

• Book: Sand Talk
• Book: Right Story, Wrong Story
• Book: Snake Talk

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Shane McLoughlin is an Associate Professor in the School of Education at the University of Birmingham, where he works in the world-leading Jubilee Centre for Character and Virtues. He is a leading expert on Aristotle’s concept of practical wisdom, and his work brings together moral philosophy and psychology, character education, behavioural science, differential psychology, clinical psychology, coaching psychology, and psychometrics to explore how people develop the good character and judgement needed to live and act well.

Shane is the author of Practical Wisdom Coaching, published by Routledge, and serves as Programme Lead for the MA in Character Education. His research focuses especially on practical wisdom, virtue, flourishing, measurement, and the limits of “one-size-fits-all” approaches to education, coaching, clinical practice, and human development. Across his work, Shane treats wisdom as a practical capacity: the ability to discern what matters, respond proportionately to complexity, and choose well when no rulebook can do the choosing for us.

A Couple Quotes From This Episode

• "Intelligence is knowing how to do things. Wisdom is knowing whether you should do them."
• "You're finding the right amount at the right time for the context that is conducive to flourishing."

Resources

• Book: Practical Wisdom Coaching

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. William (Willy) Donaldson has over 35 years of experience as a Board member and President and has been CEO of 8 companies and over 30 years of experience in higher education. Willy is the Founder and President of Strategic Venture Planning, a management consulting firm that assists boards, investors and senior management teams maximize results.

Dr. Donaldson is an Assistant Professor in Finance. He teaches Advanced Financial Statement Analysis, Entrepreneurial Finance, Strategic Management, Innovation, Entrepreneurship and Systems Thinking, as well as multiple capstone classes. Dr. Donaldson is the Director of the Luter Business Institute.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Managers and leaders don't solve problems, they manage messes."
• "If you don't see the whole system, you're gonna draw a boundary around your job...and you're gonna start optimizing in that space. And that may be great for finance, but it may be disastrous for the whole system."

Resources

• Book: Simple Complexity: A Management Book For The Rest of Us
• Resource: OODA Loop by John Boyd

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Keith Eigel, Ph.D.is the founder of The Leaders Lyceum (lye-see-um), an organization dedicated to leveraging challenges to accelerate the leaderʼs journey to sustained effectiveness. He is co-author of a forthcoming book on personality, leader effectiveness, and leveraging the diversity of perspective for team performance called The Vehicle. Over the last twenty-five years, his research and writing have had a global reach, being cited in academic and best-selling publications on 5 continents. Keith and his team have honed a developmental curriculum that extends and leverages over sixty years of research to help executive and next-generation leaders measurably advance leader maturity, the best predictor of a leader’s effectiveness. Thousands of leaders from dozens of industries have been transformed by their experiences with The Leaders Lyceum. Additionally, he'sbeen an executive coach to several C-Level Fortune 50 leaders and University Presidents.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "I don't want my growth to be determined by the whims of circumstance. I want to have some voice, some proactivity in that."
• "Developmental maturity, vertical development, is about challenging the lens that we see the world through. This conversation may make the lens we have tomorrow slightly different. And if it has, that's vertical growth."
• "Learn to embrace your complaint — because it is the thing that we can't help but feel. And wherever our lens is, our pain meets us where we are. Then it opens the door."

Resources

• Book: The Map by Eigel and Kuhnert

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Randal Joy Thompson is a scholar-practitioner and global citizen who has assumed leadership positions and led teams in countries around the world including Cameroon, Morocco, Romania, Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus, Iraq, Afghanistan, Morocco, Liberia, Nigeria, Ghana, Myanmar, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and El Salvador, initially as a Commissioned US Foreign Service Officer and then as independent contractor. Her scholarship has focused primarily on leadership, focusing on women, teams, and the commons. She works with organizations to help facilitate the establishment of autonomous self-led teams as well as to help build relationships among existing team members by creating the environment where they experience the socio-emotional forces connecting them.

In addition to her PhD and MA in Human and Organizational Systems from Fielding Graduate University, she earned an MBA from the Booth School of Business at the University of Chicago, an MA in Political Philosophy from the University of Chicago, an MA in Biblical Exposition from Capitol Bible and Graduate School, and a BA in Philosophy from the University of California, Berkeley.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Relationships, not structure, are what create stability now in organizations.”
• “The team itself is a leader.”
• “What binds them together are relationships.

Resources

• Book: The Four Forces: Igniting Emergent Generative Team Leadership in a Complex Perennial World Inspired by Nature and the Dao

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Jonathan W. White is an endowed professor in the School of Civic Leadership at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the author or editor of more than 17 books covering various topics, including civil liberties during the Civil War, the USS Monitor and the Battle of Hampton Roads, the presidential election of 1864, and what Abraham Lincoln and soldiers dreamt about.

Among his awards are the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia’s Outstanding Faculty Award (2019), CNU’s Alumni Society Award for Teaching and Mentoring (2016), the Abraham Lincoln Institute Book Prize (2015), and the University of Maryland Alumni Excellence Award in Research (2024).

His recent books include A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House (2022), which was co-winner of the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize (with Jon Meacham); Shipwrecked: A True Civil War Story of Mutinies, Jailbreaks, Blockade-Running, and the Slave Trade (2023); Final Resting Places: Reflections on the Meaning of Civil War Graves (2023); and an exciting new children’s book, My Day with Abe Lincoln (2024).

Quotes From This Episode

• “Lincoln understood you start with something that everyone can agree on.”
• “He believed that persuasiveness is the most important thing for a leader.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Lincoln Home (Images of America)

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Adam Tarnow is a leadership development specialist, keynote speaker, and author of The Fog of Work. With a unique blend of humor, humility, and hard-won insight, Adam helps professionals get out of their own way, navigate complexity, and lead with confidence.

A recovering CPA and former public accountant, Adam now heads up the Leadership Development Practice at PeopleWorks International, where he equips leaders to thrive in today’s fast-paced, people-driven workplaces. He’s spoken to audiences across industries—from manufacturing to professional services to education—and has a gift for making complex leadership ideas simple, practical, and unforgettable.

He earned his accounting degree from Clemson University and holds a “Ducktorate” from Disney University (yes, it’s real… no, it’s not accredited). He’s been married since 2003, is the proud dad of two teenage boys, and believes any day is better when it starts with coffee and a New York Times crossword puzzle.

Whether he’s speaking about leadership, communication, optimism, or culture, Adam’s goal is always the same: cut through the noise and help good people become great leaders.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "You are being held accountable for outcomes you know you do not fully control.”
• “I didn’t need a new job. I needed a new system for handling the inevitable stress that goes with leadership.”
• “Your story doesn’t have a villain. It just has a valley.”

Resources

• Book: The Fog of Work

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Cameron Mofid is a traveler, social entrepreneur, and speaker who became one of the youngest verified people ever to visit all 195 countries in the world by the age of 25. After struggling with obsessive-compulsive disorder for much of his life, Cameron used travel as a form of “real-world exposure therapy,” pushing himself into unfamiliar and uncomfortable environments across the globe. His experiences ultimately inspired him to found Humanity Effect, a nonprofit organization supporting children in Makoko, Nigeria through schools and an orphanage serving hundreds of students. Cameron’s work and story have been featured by Forbes, CNN, People Magazine, and other major media outlets for his message around resilience, uncertainty, gratitude, and service.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “She wasn’t dancing because everything was okay. She was dancing because it wasn’t.”
• “To become best versions of ourselves, we really have to learn to accept and work on all of those things.”

Resources

• Website - Humanity Effect
• CNN Article - ‘It was a form of healing’: How traveling to every country helped this American cope with a mental health disorder

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Marshall Ganz is a senior lecturer in public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and one of the leading thinkers on leadership as collective action.

He began his career as a grassroots organizer during the civil rights era, working with Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and later with the United Farm Workers, where he helped build organizing capacity among farmworkers. That field experience became the foundation for his lifelong focus on leadership, organizing, and social movements.

Ganz later transitioned into academia, where he developed frameworks that bridge practice and theory. He is best known for his work on public narrative, organizing strategy, and leadership development through action. His teaching and research emphasize how leaders mobilize others by linking values to action, building relationships, and creating structures that enable collective effort.

He also played a key role in organizing the grassroots structure of the Barack Obama 2008 presidential campaign, demonstrating how his principles could scale in a national political context.

His work continues to influence leaders across sectors, including politics, nonprofits, and increasingly, corporate environments.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “It’s not enough to have virtuous people. We have to have virtuous institutions.”
• “Leadership is about accepting responsibility for enabling others to achieve shared purpose under conditions of uncertainty.”

Resources

• Book: People, Power, Change: Organizing for Democratic Renewal by Ganz
• Book: Dopamine Nation by Lembke

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Eric Kaufman is a Professor, Extension specialist, and associate head for Virginia Tech’s Department of Agricultural, Leadership, and Community Education. He developed and now coordinates Virginia Tech’s graduate certificate program in Collaborative Community Leadership. He also supports an academic major in Community Leadership and Development, as well as an undergraduate minor in Leadership and Social Change. Eric’s research investigates and promotes collective leadership, with special emphasis on followership, problem solving, and leadership-as-practice. He is a past president of the Association of Leadership Educators (ALE) and a past chair of the International Leadership Association (ILA) Followership Community. His professional recognitions include the Distinguished Agricultural Leadership Educator Award from the American Association for Agricultural Education (AAAE).

Brian Zimmerman has served as CEO of Cleveland Metroparks since 2010, overseeing more than 25,000 acres of parks, trails, golf courses, and the Cleveland Metroparks Zoo. Under his leadership, the organization has added more than 4,000 acres of protected land, expanded access across six counties, added 60+ miles of trails, and revitalized hundreds of acres of Cleveland lakefront. He has also guided major investments in Cleveland Metroparks Zoo, including nationally recognized animal habitats and conservation initiatives. Zimmerman’s work has earned numerous honors, including the 2021 National Gold Medal Award for Excellence in Park Management and recognition as one of Ohio’s most influential civic leaders.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “You cannot control every outcome and you cannot control every person. You have to empower your people to get there.”
• “If I'm surrounding myself with the right people, and I'm empowering them to be successful, we can accomplish great things together.”
• “We need to stop thinking about leadership as something individuals do and start seeing it as something communities build together over time.”

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dan Jenkins, Ph.D., is Professor of Leadership & Organizational Studies at the University of Southern Maine. Co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and author of over 75 peer-reviewed publications, his scholarship spans leadership pedagogy, artificial intelligence (AI), followership, critical thinking, and curriculum design. A pioneer in integrating AI into development, training, and education, he develops innovative courses preparing students for digital-age leadership challenges. Dan serves as Co-Founder of the International Leadership Association’s Leadership Education Academy, Associate Editor of the Journal of Leadership Studies, and co-host of The Leadership Educator and Leaders in the Loop podcasts. An award-winning international speaker and facilitator, he engages thousands of leadership educators, scholars, students, and professionals worldwide on innovative teaching approaches and AI integration.

Gaurav Khanna, Senior Manager, Data Science and Digital Journeys, Cisco Systems, has 25 years of experience in technology and entrepreneurship. During the past five years, he has led efforts to automate business workflows using machine learning and deep learning techniques. His work focuses on using large language models and generative AI to transform how users interact with sales acceleration platforms. Khanna is passionate about demystifying complex subjects and is a frequent speaker on AI/ML topics. He received a BS in physics from Yale and an MS and a PhD in materials science and engineering from Stanford.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “We’re beyond the point of innocent wonder about AI.”
• “How do we align human values with machine learning and generative AI?”

Resources

• Podcast: Humans in the Loop

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

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Jay Abbasi is a global keynote speaker, TEDx speaker, coach, and former Tesla leader who helps professionals thrive under pressure without burning out. At Tesla, he led national training programs for over 1,000 employees, and has since coached leaders at Google, Amazon, TikTok, Wells Fargo, and many more. He’s been featured in Forbes Founder, Authority Magazine, and Medium, and is the host of the top-rated podcast Unstuck with Jay Abbasi. Blending corporate experience with deep expertise in mindfulness, resilience, and well-being, Jay offers a powerful message: success isn’t about avoiding challenges, but mastering them with clarity, energy, and purpose.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “When pressure increases, you need to recharge more, not less.”
• “Resilience isn’t pushing through. It’s managing your energy so you can show up.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Jay's Website
• Jay's Podcast - Unstuck with Jay Abbasi
• Jay's Speaking

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• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

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Dr. Chris Rehm is passionate about developing leadership capacity from younger ages, rather than waiting until college or adulthood. His early work in schools propelled him into educational administration and consulting, where he gained experience with curricular and organizational alignment, intentional learning outcome design, strategic planning, program evaluation, and technology implementation. Chris is currently Head of School at Wuhan Yangtze International School.

Joel Wright is a leadership architect, social entrepreneur, innovator, and facilitator of leadership and organizational development. For over 20 years, he has focused on the question: what would the world look like if all people had access to leadership development? He has pursued this mission through the Center for Creative Leadership, the YMCA, Sri Lanka YMCA, Habitat for Humanity, and corporations. While at CCL, he led a team that worked directly with youth through Rotary International, Ravenscroft School, Charlotte Latin School, Milton Hershey School, SMU, and UNC-Chapel Hill. Joel is currently a consultant and thePresident of the Leadership Forum Community.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership is a muscle. The earlier you exercise it, the stronger it gets.”
• “Teachers don’t need another program. They need a different lens.”
• “Everything can be leader development. But that’s overwhelming unless you simplify it.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• How to Unleash a Billion Leaders: The New Building Blocks for Youth Leader Development by Rehm and Wright
• Expanding the Leadership Equation - by Ellen Van Velsor and Joel Wright
• Developing a Billion Leaders - by Gergen, Wright, and Rego

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Thomas Hill III is the chief executive officer of Kimray, Inc. As the grandson of Kimray's founder, Garman Kimmell, Thomas grew up around the family business and manages the family-owned company with a sense of stewardship and heritage.

In 1948, Kimray revolutionized pressure regulation in the oil and gas industry by introducing a three-inch pilot-operated back pressure regulator. The company has since grown to be a globally-known manufacturer of a comprehensive line of reliable, smart, and inventive American-made control equipment for safely and efficiently producing oil and gas. Having worked in virtually every department, Thomas has an intimate knowledge of the processes and people involved from start to finish.

Thomas grew up in a high-performing family, which shaped his belief that people are worth what they can accomplish. This sent Thomas on a long and unfulfilling journey of pursuing success by constantly doing bigger and better things. Life eventually spun out of control, and Thomas hit rock bottom. Unfortunately, this meant Kimray hit rock bottom at the same time.

Thomas's story does not end there. Through significant pain and loss, he began the long and difficult road of recovery that transformed his life and leadership. Today, Thomas enjoys sharing his story with others who can benefit from the lessons he has learned. He is committed to carrying the message of Recovering Leadership to other "addict leaders" and practicing these principles in his personal life.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “Making money is easy. Making money without harming other people is hard.”
• “I wasn’t a leader. I just needed people to do what I needed them to do.”
• “The more transparent I am, the more people want to follow.”
• “Leadership is not about knowing what to do. It is about developing people who know what to do.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Recovering Leadership: Musings of an Addict Leader by Thomas Hill

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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John Bernatovicz is a husband, father, brother, entrepreneur, author, and lifelong Northeast Ohioan. Over the last 15 years, he has started or been an owner of six business ventures and is the president and founder of Willory, a staffing and consulting firm solely focused on HR and payroll.

As the president and founder of Willory, John focuses on transforming organizations to meet their full potential. Through Willory, John ensures his clients have the best talent in their HR and payroll department and optimize the technology supporting companies’ number one asset: people. With over 20 years of experience within the payroll and HR niche, John is uniquely qualified to drive Willory into a leadership position within the HR and payroll staffing and consulting space.

John has focused his working career on understanding the needs of his clients, candidates, and partners. He is not satisfied until he finds what his clients and candidates are looking for. Plus, he thrives on instilling enthusiasm, growth mindsets, and accountability in the Willory team. John strives to win and build successful businesses that go above and beyond the expectations of his clients, candidates, staff members, and competitors. This sets a standard for the firm to provide a high quality of service and build exceptional relationships. Willory has achieved great results, including NorthCoast 99, Weatherhead 100, Crain’s 52, and Inc. 5000.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “You’re not going to lose your job because of AI. You’re going to lose your job to someone who uses AI better than you.”
• “Every single person in the world is a leader. People are paying attention to what you’re doing.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: HR Like a Boss by Bernatovicz
• Events: Disrupt HR

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Melisa Buie is a problem solver, author, and operational excellence leader known for making complex systems work better. Her work spans advanced technologies such as lasers and semiconductor equipment, as well as large-scale global manufacturing and business systems.

Melisa’s career sits at the intersection of engineering innovation and operational performance. She has held key roles with leading organizations in the semiconductor and photonics industries, including Lam Research, Coherent, Applied Materials, and Advanced Energy. As Global Director for Lean Operational Excellence at Coherent, Inc., a $2B global photonics solutions company, she led initiatives that advanced both engineering performance and enterprise-wide transformation. Earlier in her career, she served as a Member of the Technical Staff and Engineering Manager at Applied Materials and Advanced Energy, and as a Research Scientist with Science Applications International Corporation at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., where she focused on theoretical laser systems.

In addition to her industry leadership, Melisa is an author and educator. She wrote Problem Solving for New Engineers: What Every Engineering Manager Wants You to Know in 2017, drawing on her experience bridging industry and academia. She also taught graduate-level courses for nearly a decade at San Jose State University in the Department of Biomedical, Chemical, and Materials Engineering, where she helped develop the next generation of engineering leaders and problem solvers.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “If it’s safe to fail, then it’s safe to learn and grow.”
• “Experimentation is something that leads to a lot of failure.”
• “Part of the reason we don’t like failing is because of all the emotions that come with it.”
• “You’ve got to separate the story you make up about the failure.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Faceplant: Free Yourself From Failure's Funk by Buie and colleagues
• Book: Problem Solving for New Engineers: What Every Engineering Manager Wants You to Know by Buie

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

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Elisa Mallis is currently the Global Vice President of Global Research, Innovation and New Content Creation at the Center for Creative Leadership (CCL®), a top-ranked global provider of executive education. The organization uses research to develop people into better leaders, transforming individuals, teams, organizations, and societies.

She has over 20 years of experience as a business leader focused on transformational change, human capital strategy, and sales and marketing. She is known for her ability to successfully blend a focus on purpose and values with practical actions and results. Growing up between countries, Greece and the United States, her journey has taken her to work and live in 16 different countries, with the last 17+ years based in Asia, including Beijing, Sydney, and Singapore.

Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership has become more of a team sport.”
• “The only thing of real importance that leaders do is to create and manage culture.”
• “Leadership is becoming less about having all the answers and more about being able to say, ‘I don’t know.’”
• “We need to double down on human connection.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Moving Beyond the Why: 4 Knowledge Shifts for Global Leaders by Mallis and Hardy

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Joel Rothaizer is a psychologist, executive coach, organizational consultant and leadership development specialist. He’s Board Certified in Organizational & Business Consulting Psychology, and a Master Certified Coach through the International Coaching Federation. His book on leadership, called Clear Impact, has been strongly endorsed by Ken Wilber. The head of Integral Zen calls it the most integral book on leadership he’s ever read.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Without a practice of reflection, you cannot build leadership capacity. Period. End of story.”
• "What happens in our sessions has zero meaning unless you’re applying it.”
• “Do you start your day with an intention of who you want to be?”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Episode #1 - Rethinking The Polarity Map with Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Episode #2 - The Wake I Leave with Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Trey Anastasio - His Story About Drug Court

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration

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Ronald E. Riggio, Ph. D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and former director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters on leadership, assessment centers, organizational psychology, and social psychology. He's served on the editorial boards of The Leadership Quarterly, Leadership, Group Dynamics, and Journal of Nonverbal Behavior.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Social intelligence is knowing how to be and knowing what to do in social situations.”
• “Emotional intelligence is a subset of social intelligence.”
• “As leaders go higher in the hierarchy, their listening tends to go down.
• “In this time of AI, make the human connection.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Blog: Psychology Today

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Mark O’Donnell is a highly successful entrepreneur, CEO, and Expert EOS Implementer™. He is the current Visionary and CEO of EOS Worldwide. Named to the 2022 and 2023 Inc. 5000 as one of America’s fastest-growing companies, as well as to the 2022 Inaugural Inc. Power Partner list, EOS Worldwide has helped thousands of entrepreneurs all over the globe get everything they want from their businesses.

Mark has also served as Head Coach for the company. He has helped more than 100 companies achieve their goals and get what they want from their businesses.

As a serial entrepreneur, Mark has founded and sold multiple successful businesses. His passion for helping people live their ideal lives led him to his current mission of assisting 1,000,000 people with tools like those found in the Entrepreneurial Operating System® (EOS®).

Mark is a lifelong learner and an alumnus of Albright College, Northeastern University, and The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. He lives outside Philadelphia, PA, with his wife, mother-in-law, three children, and his one-hundred-pound dog, Blue.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “What gets measured gets done. What gets measured and reported goes exponential.”
• “Speaking a common language is part of getting all that human energy rowing in the same direction.”
• “It’s just a very simple, proven system.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Data: Harness Your Numbers to Go from Uncertain to Unstoppable by O'Donnell & others
• People: Dare to Build an Intentional Culture by O'Donnell & others
• Issues: Remove Friction, Fast Track Your Growth, and Ignite Your Greatness by O'Donnell & others

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. David M. Rosch is an associate professor in agricultural leadership, education, and communications at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign, where he teaches leadership theory and studies the impact of leadership development on young people. He has been repeatedly recognized for teaching excellence and received his college’s Teaching Excellence Award. Dave serves as editor of the Journal of Campus Activities Practice and Scholarship and has held numerous leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related organizations. He has authored more than 50 scholarly works and earned his PhD in higher education from Syracuse University.

Dr. Daniel M. Jenkins is a professor of leadership and organizational studies at the University of Southern Maine, where he teaches leadership, organizational theory, and research methods. He is co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and has published more than 50 peer-reviewed works on leadership education and development. An award-winning international speaker and facilitator, Dan has engaged thousands on topics including leadership pedagogy, followership, and artificial intelligence. He serves in multiple leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related professional organizations, and earned his doctorate from the University of South Florida.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “There’s no stable track in leader development because people are complex.”
• “We don’t need to talk about whether leadership matters. We need to understand how.”
• “Instructional strategies are the vehicle through which we facilitate leadership learning.”
• “Know why you are selecting the tools you are using.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Moving the Needle: What We Know (and Don’t Know) About Developing Leaders by Rosch, Allen, and Jenkins

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “He is an inveterate bad boy who is not content unless he is stirring the pot.”
• “Follower is the only antonym of leader we have. And sometimes followers become leaders.”
• “The importance of context is as real in politics as it is in organizational life.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Barbara's Blog
• Book: Leader's Who Lust by Kellerman
• Book: Bad Leadership by Kellerman
• Book: The End of Leadership by Kellerman

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders
• Blog

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Ira Chaleff is an author, speaker, and executive coach in the greater Washington, DC, area. His extensive experience with the US federal government includes directing and chairing the nonpartisan Congressional Management Foundation, where he is now Chair Emeritus.

Ira co-authored the original handbook for newly elected Members of Congress, now in its fifteenth edition, and has facilitated over a hundred retreats for congressional offices. He has led and participated in Democracy strengthening programs in Asia and West Africa and consulted for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in Eastern Europe.

He has been an adjunct faculty member at the Federal Executive Institute and a visiting leadership scholar at Churchill College, Cambridge University in England. Ira served two terms on the Board of Directors of the International Leadership Association and is the founder of its Followership Community.

Ira speaks on courageous followership and intelligent disobedience at a wide variety of institutions, including the US Department of State, the US Naval Academy, the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the European Commission of the EU, and many others.

Quotes From This Episode

• “Sometimes it’s courageous to conform. Discernment matters as much as courage.”
• “Followers are as responsible for bringing out the best in leaders as leaders are for bringing out the best in followers.”
• “If followership education only teaches compliance, should we be surprised when adults conform to poor leadership?”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Courageous Follower by Chaleff
• Book: Intelligent Disobedience by Chaleff
• Book: To Stop a Tyrant: The Power of Political Followers by Chaleff

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective.

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Paul Crick is grounded in, and informed by, the principles, wisdom and practice of the martial art of Aikido, which he applies as a powerful discipline for mastering his craft as a seasoned, transformational coach. Through this lens, he supports leaders and teams to carve out their own distinctive path to success.

With over two decades of hard-earned personal and professional experience working internationally as a consultant and coach, Paul specialises in enabling clients to navigate uncertainty and periods of intense transition and growth, amplifying clarity, confidence and impact at moments that matter most.

Developing leaders and teams from the inside out, and helping people work together more effectively at scale, are areas where he consistently excels.

Paul’s international corporate consulting experience spans the private, public and not-for-profit sectors. He has worked with senior leaders on organisational transformation programmes across Fortune 500 and FTSE 250 companies, public sector institutions and voluntary organisations.

Paul’s coaching philosophy is grounded in GRACE, providing a confidential, judgement-free space in which individuals and teams can explore, think and grow.

As an accredited coach, he blends an eclectic mix of evidence-based tools and practical psychology to support lasting transformational change.

Quotes From Developing Leaders and Leadership

• “If you’re not grounded in your body, if you haven’t got that alignment between mind, body, and your physiology, then it becomes difficult to create and stand up for something.”
• “Acceptance is facing up to the reality of what’s coming at you and figuring out how to redirect that energy in a way that restores harmony.”
• “Find the practice that works for you. Grounding can look very different for different people.”
• “When your actions, presence, and values align, that’s coherence.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Newsletter: GRACEWorks on Substack
• Paul's Media Kit
• Free Masterclass: GRACE Under Pressure
• Audio: 5-Minute Clip on the 'G' of the GRACE Framework

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective.

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Peter Weiss is a leadership mentor, former CEO, and founder of MindKaizen. He works with senior leaders operating under high pressure and complexity, helping them strengthen their inner operating system so they can meet today’s demands with clarity and stability. His work focuses on staying grounded under pressure, acting in line with personal values, and protecting the relationships that matter most.

Originally from Germany, and with a background in bioengineering and an MBA, Peter spent decades leading and transforming organizations across Asia. He founded and led the Kaizen Institute Thailand and later turned around and successfully sold a manufacturing business.

Peter is the creator of the ShinKaizen program, which blends ancient contemplative disciplines with applied neuroscience to develop the inner skills required for whole and effective leadership. He lives on a self-sufficient homestead in rural Thailand and works globally with executives, founders, and leadership teams.

A Quote This Episode

• “Many leaders believe Kaizen is something you delegate. That belief is the problem. Tools never changed a culture. What changes culture is how leaders show up when things get tough."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Well-Being and Personal Growth by Bruno A. Cayoun
• Book: The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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Dr. Toby Newstead is a respected leadership scholar and practitioner at the University of Tasmania, located in lutruwita on the lands of the palawa and pakana people. With a background in corporate change, leadership development, and professional communications, she brings practical expertise to her academic, coaching, and consulting work.

An internationally recognized researcher, Dr. Newstead specializes in virtues-based leadership development, leadership ethics, and leadership in the volunteer sector. Her research appears in top journals. In 2023, she published a book titled Leadership and Virtues: Understanding and Practicing Good Leadership.

Dr. Newstead is an established executive leadership coach and deeply engaged with industry and community. She regularly delivers impactful workshops, keynotes, and facilitation sessions. Dr Newstead’s research, teaching, coaching and facilitation has local and international impact, shaping the leaders of today and tomorrow.

Quotes From This Episode

• “We cannot develop other people; we can only facilitate their learning and assess if they learned.”
• “Leadership involves relationships, influence, shared purpose, and collective effort. That’s the stuff that has to be there.”
• “Leadership isn’t the answer to everything; there are times when management or command responses are what the situation calls for.”
• “Followership isn’t an afterthought; you don’t have leadership without both leaders leading and followers following.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Poem - The Blind Men and the Elephant
• Book - Learning in Adulthood

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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Dr. David V. Day holds appointments as Professor of Psychological Science and Leadership and serves as the Academic Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College in California (USA). He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles, books, and book chapters, many pertaining to the core topics of leadership and leadership development and is the author of the recent book titled “Developing Leaders and Leadership: Principles, Practices, and Processes.” David received the 2024 Eminent Scholar Award from the Network of Leadership Scholars at the Academy of Management and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association.

Quotes From This Episode

• “AI can absolutely substitute for management. Leadership is a different question.”
• “The future is not whether AI can lead. It’s when.”
• “Expert power increasingly favors AI. That changes everything.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• David Day on Google Scholar
• Article: Fired by Bot at Amazon: ‘It’s You Against the Machine’
• Book: Everyone Culture by Kegan and Associates
• Film: Her
• TED Talk: Ray Dalio
• Personality Assessment: PrinciplesYou
• Blog Post: Nick Cave's response on AI generated songwriting
• Website: Lovoitcs

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Nick Hart is the Principal at Horizon English School in Dubai, part of the Cognita global network of schools. Nick holds an MBA in International Educational Leadership and has authored two books on educational leadership, focusing on its cultural and impact domains.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Schools are complex adaptive systems, not complicated machines."
• “There is no such thing as a follower; everyone nudges the organization toward purpose.”
• “Feedback loops in schools might not show up for weeks, months, or even years.”
• “Leadership isn’t a hero up on the balcony, it’s about helping others hold ambiguity.”
• “Designing decision clarity early is one of the most powerful things you can do as a leader.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Creating a Strong Culture and Positive Climate in Schools by Hart
• Book: Impact: A five-part framework for making a difference in schools by Hart
• Article: DAC Model
• Article: DARE Model by McKinsey
• Article: Elliott Jaques’ Levels of Work
• LinkedIn: Richard Clayton
• LinkedIn: Stefan Norrvall

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Karl W. Kuhnert, Ph.D.is Professor of the Practice of Organization and Management in the Goizueta Business School at Emory University. Karl’s research focuses on how leaders cognitively, interpersonally, and emotionally develop over the life course. Karl has published over 80 peer-reviewed articles, 13 book chapters and made over 100 conference presentations, and served on numerous editorial and review panels. He teaches industrial and organizational psychology, leadership, organizational change, and professional ethics. Karl has won numerous awards for teaching and research. Karl also regularly teaches leadership development in the Executive Ed. Programs at Emory, UCLA, HEC Paris, and UGA. He has served as a consultant with many large and small corporations, non-profit and government organizations including, United Parcel Service, The U.S. Dept. of Treasury, Siemens, The Jet Propulsion Lab, and Cox Automotive.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Every time I have done this, it has freed up experts to do the work they actually want to do.”
• “Tacit knowledge is lived wisdom—it’s what makes an expert an expert.”
• “AI is a tool, it is not truth.”
• “We need to ask how judgments are made, not just whether AI can render them.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Personal Knowledge by Michael Polanyi
• Book: The MAP: A Practical Guide to Leadership Development by Keith Eigel & Karl Kuhnert
• Article: Training Innovative AI to Provide Expert Guidance on Prescription Medications by Kuhnert
• Article: Teaching Leadership: Where Theory Bridges Practice by Kuhnert

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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Misha Rubin is an executive “What’s Next” strategist who helps C-level leaders and high-achievers break income ceilings, land strategic leadership roles, and navigate bold career pivots while regaining meaning and momentum. Grounded in 15+ years as a Wall Street advisor and former EY Partner, he’s led $100M+ transformations and coached hundreds of executives to breakthroughs in compensation, clarity, and career strategy. His work is results-focused, built around executive positioning and decision-making, and supported by a proprietary tool that brings vision, clarity, and next-step confidence.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “We are CEOs of our careers and our lives, and somehow we tolerate not having a strategy for them.”
• “The slow lane is gone. If you are in a slow lane, that’s not a great place to be nowadays.”
• “You have to be nimble and bold to meet the needs of the future.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Loving What Is by Byron Katie
• The Future of Jobs Report 2025 by the World Economic Forum

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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Dr. Joel Rothaizer is a psychologist, executive coach, organizational consultant and leadership development specialist. He’s Board Certified in Organizational & Business Consulting Psychology, and a Master Certified Coach through the International Coaching Federation. His book on leadership, called Clear Impact, has been strongly endorsed by Ken Wilber. The head of Integral Zen calls it the most integral book on leadership he’s ever read.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Helping leaders see the logical next step is the easy part. Helping them see why they do not take it is the art.”
• “Whatever you are biased toward, you lose the value of it when you over-privilege it.”
• “Everything goes better as a polarity. There is not a single value you can come up with that is not better understood as a polarity.”
• “People will integrate a tool at the level of complexity they live at.”
• “A polarity map is inherently developmentally energizing. It temporarily helps people think at a higher level than they would on their own.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Clear Impact by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Guaranteed to Optimize Your Leadership Effectiveness in Minutes a Day by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: The Wake I Leave by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Co-Responsibility: The Essential Foundation for Effective Performance Collaboration by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Organizational Leader: Do You Really “Think Systems”?
• Book: Cloudless Mind: Conversations on Buddhahood by Dan Brown

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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Dr. Joel Rothaizer is a psychologist, executive coach, organizational consultant and leadership development specialist. He’s Board Certified in Organizational & Business Consulting Psychology, and a Master Certified Coach through the International Coaching Federation. His book on leadership, called Clear Impact, has been strongly endorsed by Ken Wilber. The head of Integral Zen calls it the most integral book on leadership he’s ever read.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “You leave a wake in every interaction. The real question is not just what kind of wake you left, but whether you even noticed.”
• “Thirty seconds before every conversation, set a task goal and a people goal. That one habit can catapult your leadership capacity.”
• “Performance isn’t about you or me — it’s about how we’re doing together. Start a performance conversation with that and everything shifts.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Clear Impact by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Guaranteed to Optimize Your Leadership Effectiveness in Minutes a Day by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: The Wake I Leave by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Co-Responsibility: The Essential Foundation for Effective Performance Collaboration by Dr. Joel Rothaizer
• Article: Organizational Leader: Do You Really “Think Systems”?
• Book: Cloudless Mind: Conversations on Buddhahood by Dan Brown
• Ted Talk: Everyday Leadership by Drew Dudley

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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Andrew McMasters is an actor, director, and consultant who helps leaders and teams strengthen communication, collaboration, and presence through the power of performance. As the author of Listening Without Agenda, he blends acting techniques with business strategy to create authentic, engaging, and effective leadership.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Actors learn to use their bodies to communicate. Leaders forget that their body is one of the tools they use.”
• “Make your scene partner look good. That is what creates true collaboration.”
• “In improv, you cannot hold on to your agenda. You have to build something together.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Andrew's Website
• Book: Slow Horses

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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Jon Macaskill is a retired Navy SEAL Commander turned speaker, mindfulness teacher, and leadership coach. Over his 24-year military career, he led special operations organizations ranging from 16 men to over 2,500 people. Today, he blends hard-earned military lessons with mindful leadership tools to help individuals and organizations grow through resilience, grit, and compassion. At the heart of it all, he uses his voice, presence, and past (especially the hard parts) to help others unlock their potential.

A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

• “Being nice feels good in the moment. Being kind is longer lasting.”
• “I would rather not pick a side and join the two sides than pick a side and divide us.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Jon's Website
• Book: Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia.
• Book: Lifespan by David Sinclair

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Sabina Nawaz is the author of YOU’RE THE BOSS: Become the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need) and an elite executive coach who advises C-level executives and teams at Fortune 500 corporations, government agencies, nonprofits, and academic institutions around the world. Sabina routinely gives speeches each year and teaches faculty at Northeastern and Drexel Universities. During her fourteen-year tenure at Microsoft, she went from managing software development teams to leading the company’s executive development and succession planning efforts for over 11,000 managers and nearly a thousand executives, advising Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer directly. She has written for and been featured in Harvard Business Review, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Inc., Fast Company, NBC, Nasdaq, and MarketWatch.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “It’s not power that corrupts. It’s pressure.”
• “As our job expands, the added pressure to perform corrupts our actions, and our increased power will blind us to the impact of those actions.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: You’re the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be and Others Need by Sabina Nawaz
• Forbes Article: “Under Pressure: Why Stress, Not Power, Corrupts Leadership Actions” by Sabina Nawaz on Forbes
• Book: Creative Acts for Curious People by Sarah Stein Greenberg

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

About Scott J. Allen

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Sunil Puri is a thought leader with over two decades of experience in leadership development, sustainability, and data analytics. Currently serving as the head of research and engagement at the Stewardship Asia Centre (SAC) in Singapore.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Most leadership decisions today are not either/or. They are both/and."
• “Doing well by doing good. If it's doing well and doing good, then doing good becomes an afterthought.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Grow the Pie by Alex Edmans
• Book: Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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Dr. Hsien-Hsien Lei is Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of The American Chamber of Commerce (AmCham) in Singapore — the largest and the most active international business association in Singapore and Southeast Asia representing over 650 companies. Hsien is also Adjunct Associate Professor at the National University of Singapore Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health, member of the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health’s Advisory Board, Vice President of the Precision Public Health Asia Society, board member and fundraising committee chair of TalentTrust, board committee member of SATA CommHealth and advisory committee member at the Singapore University of Social Sciences School of Business.

A Quote From This Episode

• "The truth is Singapore itself is a very small market…And yet its influence and its ability to do more for the rest of the world is really impressive.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Any Dumb-Ass Can Do It: Learning Moments from an Everyday CEO of a Multi-Billion-Dollar Company, Garry Ridge & Martha Finney.
• Book: Helping People Win at Work: A Business Philosophy Called “Don’t Mark My Paper, Help Me Get an A by Garry Ridge & Ken Blanchard.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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Jonathan Reams, PhD, is currently doing action research projects exploring how to scale micro-skill development for habituating core leadership practices. He approaches this work drawing on experiences from holding a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) from 2007 until 2024, serving as editor-in-chief of Integral Review from 2005 to 2023, and being chief creative officer at the Center for Transformative Leadership and Adeptify.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Life will teach you better. The curriculum is all around you.”
• “If your inner weather is turbulent, others can feel it. You can’t hide your state of being.”
• “Leadership starts with regulating your own noise so you can notice the needs of others.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Amal and Berndt’s paper on the knowing–doing gap
• Edgar H. Schein: Helping: How to Offer Give and Receive Help
• Dynamic Skill Theory – Kurt Fischer
• Book: BJ Fogg’s Tiny Habits
• Book: James Clear’s Atomic Habits
• Book: Robert Kegan and Lisa Lahey’s Immunity to Change

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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Jonathan Reams, PhD, is currently doing action research projects exploring how to scale micro-skill development for habituating core leadership practices. He approaches this work drawing on experiences from holding a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) from 2007 until 2024, serving as editor-in-chief of Integral Review from 2005 to 2023, and being chief creative officer at the Center for Transformative Leadership and Adeptify.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "Leadership isn’t about position—it’s about behavior in the moment.”
• “We need proprioception of thought—awareness of our thinking as it arises.”
• “The feeling of being time-starved is an interpretation, not a fact.”
• “It’s not about a thousand skills to master; it’s about cultivating processes for clean thinking and wise action.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Amal and Berndt’s paper on the knowing–doing gap
• Center for Creative Leadership’s DAC model
• Dynamic Skill Theory – Kurt Fischer
• David Bohm’s work on the proprioception of thought
• David Wagoner’s poem Lost
• Book: BJ Fogg’s Tiny Habits
• Book: James Clear’s Atomic Habits
• Book: Robert Kegan and Lisa Lahey’s Immunity to Change
• Book: Daniel Coyle’s The Talent Code

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!

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Jonathan Reams, PhD, is currently doing action research projects exploring how to scale micro-skill development for habituating core leadership practices. He approaches this work drawing on experiences from holding a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) from 2007 until 2024, serving as editor-in-chief of Integral Review from 2005 to 2023, and being chief creative officer at the Center for Transformative Leadership and Adeptify.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• "You may think your inner state is invisible, but you can’t hide it.”
• “The success of the intervention is primarily due to the interior condition of the intervener.”
• “Resilience isn’t about bouncing back to normal—it’s about expanding your capacity.”
• “Leaders create the weather. Your energy is the signal everyone else reads first.”
• “Knowing about something isn’t the same as learning how to do it.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Amal and Berndt’s paper on the knowing–doing gap
• Book: An Everyone Culture by Kegan and Lahey
• Book: The Outward Mindset by The Arbinger Institute
• Book: Theory U by Otto Scharmer
• Organization: HeartMath Institute
• Tool: MindLog by Theo Dawson

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for Prague - October 15-18, 2025!

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John Dailey – A high school diving coach for more than 45 years, John is known for his infectious energy, big-hearted mentorship, and focus on building confidence and resilience in young athletes.

Chris Whritenour – A trailblazing coach and former University of Minnesota diver (and its first female coach). Chris broke barriers as one of the first women to sign a collegiate athletic letter of intent and has spent decades inspiring divers (especially young women) to believe in their own strength.

Dennis Pluth – A passionate former diver and coach for nearly two decades, Dennis blends tough love with deep care, challenging athletes to take ownership of their growth while celebrating the lifelong community the sport creates.

Bret Beecher – A lifelong coach who began at 15 and has led athletes from high school to collegiate levels, Bret treasures the long-term relationships with his divers and the joy of watching them grow into confident, accomplished adults.

Quotes From This Episode

• "Diving is 85% mental, 15% physical—we spend an awful lot of time running around inside these kids’ heads.” — John Dailey
• “You can tell when someone’s genuine, just by showing up every day and making them believe they can.” — Chris Whritenour
• “Diving accepted me for who I am." — Dennis Pluth
• “Whether you finish in last place or first place, the kids will never forget the experience they had from their coaches and teammates.” — Bret Beecher

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Nicole Ferry is a tenure-track assistant professor at Copenhagen Business School. Drawing on her background in cultural studies and critical theory, her research examines the ideological and gendered discourses of leadership and leadership development across diverse contexts.

She has published in Journal of Business Ethics, Leadership, Management Learning, Gender, Work and Organization, and Academy of Management Learning & Education. Her current work explores the competitive and cultural dynamics of the leadership industries, as well as contemporary approaches to gender-based leadership development.

Quotes From This Episode

• “If men don’t connect personal identity work to gender and power, we won’t achieve equity.”
• “It’s a privilege not to have to think about how your gender shapes your leadership.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Men’s Leadership Development: A Framework for Advancing Gender Equity in Leadership Development
• Television: Adolescence
• Television: Men
• Film: Coherence
• Television: The Bear

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Scott Ritzheimer has helped start nearly 20,000 new businesses and nonprofits, and with his business partner started and led their multimillion-dollar business through an exceptional and extended growth phase (over 10 years of double-digit growth all before he turned 35.

He founded Scale Architects to help businesses across the country identify the right growth strategies and find the right guides to get them on the fast track to Predictable Success and stay there as long as possible.

He now travels across the country to speak to and consult with founders, CEOs, and their teams to help them not only grow but scale their businesses and do it all without the hustle.

Quotes From This Episode

• “The problem isn’t a lack of information; it’s knowing which information to act on right now.”
• "Pulling lessons from your future into your present only adds weight and slows you down.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Founder’s Evolution by Ritzheimer
• Framework: Gretchen Rubin’s Four Tendencies

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Dr. Jonathan W. White is a professor of American Studies at Christopher Newport University. He is the author or editor of 17 books covering various topics, including civil liberties during the Civil War, the USS Monitor and the Battle of Hampton Roads, the presidential election of 1864, and what Abraham Lincoln and soldiers dreamt about.

Among his awards are the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia’s Outstanding Faculty Award (2019), CNU’s Alumni Society Award for Teaching and Mentoring (2016), the Abraham Lincoln Institute Book Prize (2015), and the University of Maryland Alumni Excellence Award in Research (2024).

His recent books include A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House (2022), which was co-winner of the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize (with Jon Meacham); Shipwrecked: A True Civil War Story of Mutinies, Jailbreaks, Blockade-Running, and the Slave Trade (2023); Final Resting Places: Reflections on the Meaning of Civil War Graves (2023); and an exciting new children’s book, My Day with Abe Lincoln (2024).

A Quote From This Episode

• "Viewed from the abolition ground, Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull; but measured by his country, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Measuring the Man: The Writings of Frederick Douglass on Abraham Lincoln
• Article: Flag burning has a long history in the U.S. — and legal protections from the Supreme Court

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Dr. Wayne E. Mayer, CEO of When Everything Matters (WEMCo), is a Strategic Sustainability Consultant who advises global companies, governments, and non-profits. He helps organizations transform business models into authentic Sustainable Development partnerships. He brings over 20 years’ experience designing and leading Corporate Sustainability. Dr. Mayer helps clients embed Sustainability into governance, culture, and leadership. He works across industries and offers extensive involvement in the mining sector.

His approach tethers company practices to megatrends and positions companies as leaders in Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) practices. Dr. Mayer also works as a Duke Corporate Education Educator and serves as a Senior Fellow at the Duke University Center for International Development, and has taught for the Duke Environmental Leadership and Business & Environment programs. He also teaches graduate courses for the University of Denver’s Environmental Policy & Management and Global Community Engagement programs.

A Quote From This Episode

• “Sustainability is really a mindset as opposed to a department.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• 📗 Firms of Endearment by Sisodia
• 📗 Full Spectrum Thinking by Johansen
• 📗 The Man Who Broke Capitalism by Gelles
• 📗 The War Below by Scheyder
• 📗 Ingrained by Robinson

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Dr. Barrett Keene is the Senior Director of Talent Development at Stanford Health Care. He previously served as Director of Talent Development at Intuit, where he led teams that develop leaders in Silicon Valley and across the world. Before Intuit, Barrett worked at Tesla as an executive coach and the Head of Leadership and Talent Development for Tesla’s Engineering organizations. In addition to Barrett’s work as an internal Leadership and Talent Development leader, Barrett spent four years helping nine Fortune 100 companies develop their leaders and employees with Accenture Strategy and the previous eleven years as an independent leadership development consultant within more than 80 organizations.

Before joining Accenture, Barrett completed a PhD at Cornell University focusing on Transformational Leadership and Behavioral Integrity and a Master of Business Management while teaching middle school and high school in Miami and Tampa. Barrett lives with his wife and children in Palo Alto, California.

A Quote From This Episode

• “We’ve skipped over transactional leadership for too long, but without those foundations, the staircase of leadership falls apart.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• 📗 Power: Why Some People Have It and Others Don't by Pfeffer
• 📗 The Leadership Challenge: How to Make Extraordinary Things Happen in Organizations by Kouzes and Posner
• 📗 Leadership Processes and Follower Self-Identity byLord & Brown

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Jennifer Garvey Berger designs and teaches leadership programs, coaches senior leaders and their teams, and supports new ways of thinking about strategy and people. In her four highly acclaimed books, Unleash Your Complexity Genius (co-authored with Carolyn Coughlin), Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps, Simple Habits for Complex Times (co-authored with Keith Johnston), and Changing on the Job, Jennifer builds on deep theoretical knowledge to offer practical ways to make leaders’ organizations more successful, their work more meaningful, and their lives more gratifying. Jennifer has worked with senior leaders in the private, non-profit, and government sectors worldwide (like Novartis, Google, KPMG, Intel, Microsoft, Wikimedia, and the New Zealand Department of Conservation).

Jennifer is a co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership. She has a masters and a doctorate from Harvard University. Formerly an associate professor at George Mason University, Jennifer learned about deep change more than a decade ago when she turned down the tenure offer and moved to a small seaside village in New Zealand with her husband, two kids, and the family dog. While she still considers herself a Kiwi by choice, you can find her in the French countryside, where she has bought a house with eleven friends who live in community and try to keep the dog from terrifying the cats.

A Quote From This Episode

• “My job is to admire that meaning system and hold space for that meaning system to grow a little bit. My job is not to fix it…”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• 📗 Changing on the Job (Second Edition) by Jennifer Garvey-Berger
• 📗 Everyday Habits for Transforming Systems by Adam Kahane

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Cathy Carroll learned about family business leadership the best way you can – by leading her family business. After a twenty-year corporate career, she left United Airlines to lead her father’s business and instantly recognized a difference between leadership in a family business vs leadership in a large corporation.

Founder and President of Legacy Onward, Inc., Cathy Carroll is a family business leadership coach and author of Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With both Love and Logic. She also trains advisors serving in family enterprises, as well as coaches who maintain their credentials with the International Coaching Federation.

Cathy earned certificates in both Leadership Coaching and Executive Facilitation at Georgetown University, an MBA at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and a BA at Boston College. She is also a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) in the ICF.

An active member of the community, Cathy currently serves as Vice-Chair the Board of the Purposeful Planning Institute and co-founder & Treasurer of A Leg To Stand On which provides prosthetic limbs to children in developing countries.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “I have to get comfortable with disappointing people. That’s my growth edge as a leader.”
• “A polarity is like breathing — you can't inhale without exhaling. In leadership, you need both.”
• “An overused strength becomes your biggest liability.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• 📗 Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With Both Love and Logic
• 📗 Polarity Management by Johnson
• 📗 Plant Intelligence and the Imaginal Realm by Buhner
  🎬 Key & Peele’s Luther the Anger Translator

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Dr. Amal Ahmadi is an Associate Professor and Program Coordinator at the College of Business and Management, American University of Bahrain. She holds a PhD in management from Henley Business School. Her research focuses on leadership and leadership development, and currently revolves around investigating cognitive, affective, and behavioral mechanisms surrounding leadership and leadership development.

Dr. Bernd Vogel is a professor in leadership and the founding director of the Henley Centre for Leadership, Henley Business School, University of Reading, UK. He holds a PhD in Management from Leibniz University Hanover. His expertise is in strategic leadership to mobilize and maintain energy in organizations, multi-level leadership, leading transformations, culture and change, and the future of leadership and leadership development.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership programs give you a platter of fruit; the real work is choosing what to eat and when.”
• “Structured reflection shouldn’t be optional; it has to be part of our day-to-day.”
• “There’s a dormant, inactive capacity in managers that just sits there if we don’t create space for it to breathe.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Knowing-Doing Gap by Pfeffer & Sutton
• Book: Professionalizing Leadership by Kellerman
• Book: The Nazi Mind by Rees
• Podcast: How to Fail with Elizabeth Day
• Organization: Inner Development Goals initiative

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Dr. Max Klau is a consultant, author, speaker, and Integral Master Coach based in Boston, Massachusetts. He received his doctorate from the Harvard Graduate School of Education in 2005 with a focus on civic leadership development. He served as the Chief Program Officer at the New Politics Leadership Academy (NPLA) from 2016-2024. NPLA is focused on bringing more servant leaders into politics, and Max designed leadership programs that have graduated more than 2,500 servant leaders to date.

Previously, he was the Vice President of Leadership Development at City Year, the education-focused AmeriCorps program. He is the founder of the Center for Courageous Wholeness and his second book, Developing Servant Leaders at Scale, will be published in August 2025. He lives outside of Boston with his wife and two children.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “One of the reasons our world is so divided is because we’re divided from ourselves.”
• “We’ve hit the limits of how much change we can make without getting serious about owning our shadow.”
• “If we don’t confront the shadow, it controls us from beyond our awareness and shows up in the systems we lead.”
• “Service turns pain into power when we use the gifts of our struggle to serve others.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Developing Servant Leaders at Scale by Max Klau
• Book: Servant Leadership: A Journey into the Nature of Legitimate Power and Greatness by Greenleaf
• Book: Abundance by Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson
• Book: The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
• Organization: Inner Development Goals
• Podcast: Living Myth with Michael Meade

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Cynthia Pong, JD, is an award-winning executive coach and speaker who empowers women of color leaders to advance their careers into positions of power. A Forbes Contributor and LinkedIn Top Voice for Job Search and Career, she has been featured in HBR, The Atlantic, and on NBC, CBS, NPR, and more.

As Founder and CEO of Embrace Change, Cynthia leads an elite, all-BIPOC team who provide specialized coaching and training programs for high-performing women of color up to the C-suite. Equipped with Cynthia’s strategic guidance, her clients break down barriers, lead with authenticity, and have collectively negotiated over $750K in salary increases. Her Anthem Award-winning Leadership Accelerator program has propelled women of color to prestigious fellowships, promotions, and top graduate program admissions.

Cynthia’s book, Don’t Stay in Your Lane: The Career Change Guide for Women of Color , has cemented her as a foremost voice on career advancement, negotiation, and thought leadership.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “I’ve coached over 350 women of color—those numbers taught me it’s never a skills gap but often a confidence gap.”
• “It’s not about a deficit in ability; it’s about being so hard on ourselves we won’t experiment or make a mistake.”
• “One-on-one tailored strategic support from an executive coach is the single best investment of your scarcest resource: time.”
• “We have to change from doing to leading—mastering tasks won’t teach you how to inspire others.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Don’t Stay in Your Lane: The Career Change Guide for Women of Color
• Cynthia's Forbes Contributor Page
• Cynthia's Assessment: Cynthia's Leadership Skills Quiz
• Book: Never Split the Difference
• Website: Anton Gunn’s Leadership Works

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Jenn Zella is the Co-Founding Principal and Chief Visionary Officer of CID Design Group, an intentional design firm that creates authentic interiors and inspired brands that engage, elevate, and endure. With a deep-rooted passion for collaboration, the creative process, and what she terms Conscious Design, Jenn believes in the power of design to make the world a happier, healthier, and more beautiful place.

With over 25 years of experience and stemming from a long family legacy of design, architecture, development, and construction, Jenn has been a catalyst for CID’s growth and evolution, earning recognition as one of the Top 100 design firms by Interior Design Magazine for eight consecutive years.

As a thought leader and creative visionary, Jenn frequently speaks nationally, sharing insights on future-forward and human-centric design, leading with heart and purpose, building a culture of trust, and coaching creativity. She has championed the intersection of design and well-being, creating spaces that support individuals in becoming their best selves. She also embodies this philosophy by integrating well-being into CID’s Blue Zone Certified workplace, including a dedicated Wellness Studio that prioritizes holistic health, mindful movement, and self-care.

With a team based in 11 states and 30 cities, CID has taken a bold approach in the design industry, embracing a predominantly virtual creative workplace, redefining how we design, collaborate, and fuel culture leveraging deep tech and high trust.

Jenn believes in leading and creating with love, with an open mind, and in collaboration with others. None of us are as smart as all of us.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Having fun is elemental to being our best and to enjoying the journey together.”
• “Engage, elevate, endure—that’s our mantra for everything we create.”
• “Physical presence in a seat at a desk does not equate to accountability.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Creative Act by Rick Rubin

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Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

From 2015 to 2023 she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership is learning lifelong...just like medicine or law.”
• “You don’t develop leaders overnight.”
• “Because the (leadership) industry is so profitable, nobody really wants to break up the existing model.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Professionalizing Leadership by Barbara Kellerman
• Film: Anora

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Richard Barrett is an internationally recognised authority on organisational leadership, and personal, organisational, and societal transformation. He is the President of the Barrett Academy for the Advancement of Human Values®, and the Founder of the Barrett Values Centre®. His lifetime quest for understanding the deeper motivations of human consciousness led him to study organisational culture, psychology, spirituality and the evolution of societal worldviews. This interdisciplinary approach culminated in developing the Seven Levels of Consciousness Model, known internationally as the Barrett Model.

Barrett is an accomplished author, having written 14 books, the most influential of which are “The Values-Driven Organization,”“Evolutionary Coaching,”“The New Leadership Paradigm,” and “A New Psychology of Human Well-Being.”

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Knowing your values means you know what’s in your heart at the deepest level.”
• “You can’t lead other people if you can’t lead yourself.”
• “The purpose for the soul is simply self-expression.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Rebalancing Society by Mintzberg
• Book: What My Soul Told Me by Richard Barrett
• Book: The Nordic Secret by Andersen & Björkman
• Humanity Awareness Initiative
• Barrett Values Centre
• Richard Barrett’s art site

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Since 2013 Dr. Richard Bolden has been Professor of Leadership and Management and Director of Bristol Leadership and Change Centre at Bristol Business School, University of the West of England (UWE). Prior to this he worked at the Centre for Leadership Studies at the University of Exeter Business School for over a decade and also as an independent consultant, research psychologist and in software development in the UK and France.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership isn’t always about who holds the role—it’s about what’s being mobilized.”
• “Sometimes we solve problems too quickly, before the right people have even had a voice.”
• “Leadership is a lens—it helps us see what’s often hidden.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Blog: Leading Together: An Invitation
• Blog: Monsters, Metaphors and Masks: Leadership Insights From Halloween
• Book: Exploring Leadership: Individual, organizational and societal perspectives
• Article: Why is collective leadership so elusive?
• Article: Putting leadership in its place: Introduction to the special issue
• Podcast: Cautionary Tales | Tim Harford
• Podcast: BBC Sounds - The Great Post Office Trial - Available Episodes
• Conference: islc2025 - University of St Andrews Business School - University of St Andrews

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Dr. Rita A. Gardiner is an Associate Professor, Critical Policy, Equity, and Leadership Studies, Faculty of Education, Western University, Canada. Her publications include articles in Gender, Work and Organization, Business Ethics Quarterly, and Organization Studies. She has published extensively on the topic of authentic leadership including a monograph entitled Gender, Authenticity, and Leadership: Thinking with Arendt. As well, Rita is the lead editor of a new international collection exploring the concept of genderwashing in leadership and diverse organizations.

Dr. Hayley Baker is an Assistant Professor, School of Kinesiology, Faculty of Health Sciences, Western University, Canada. Her scholarly interests include leadership, gender, and sport. Her research has focused on addressing the underrepresentation of women coaches at Canadian universities by exploring normalized institutional practices and processes. Additionally, she has examined the implementation of gender-based violence policies in universities and Canadian sport organizations.

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• “I think, put simply, genderwashing is really a myth… a myth of gender equality in organizations.
• “It’s about organizational rhetoric versus lived experience, and we’re looking at the tensions between them.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Genderwashing in Leadership: Power, Policies and Politics
• Book: Leadership Ethics: An Introduction
• Television Show: The Traitors (UK)

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Harold (Trey) Carlson has served as chief of staff for NASA’s John F. Kennedy Space Center in Florida since August 2022. In this role, Carlson is responsible for day-to-day operations at Kennedy, helping shape the center's strategic direction while overseeing various policies and initiatives.

Before assuming his current role, Carlson served five years as the Kennedy Space Center legislative affairs manager. He directed KSC’s legislative agenda, interfacing with Congress and the State of Florida legislature and advocating for NASA’s exploration and science mission requirements and Kennedy’s multi-user spaceport needs.

During his tenure as legislative affairs manager, Carlson served several months as NASA’s acting deputy associate administrator for the Office of Legislative and Intergovernmental Affairs (OLIA) and eight months as the acting director for Legislative Liaison Division within OLIA.

Previously, he led the development and execution of Kennedy’s master plan that transformed the center from a single-use, government-operated federal facility to a multi-user spaceport providing both government and commercial launch operations.

Carlson is a former U.S. Navy submariner and holds a bachelor’s degree in urban studies and planning from the University of California at San Diego, and a Master of Science degree in public policy and management from the Heinz School at Carnegie Mellon University.

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• "It’s the people element that is the most important—whether you’re making yeast rolls or launching rockets.”
• “I’ve never thought, ‘Why did I do this?’ after investing time in a relationship.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Podcast: Jordan Peterson
• Podcast: President’s Daily Brief
• TED: Ian Bremmer’s 2025 outlook

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Dr. Doug MacKie has over 30 years of experience as an organisational and business psychologist and executive coach working in the UK, Europe, and Australasia. He specialises in sustainability leadership, high-performance teams, and developing leadership within purposeful organisations. Through his consulting work, he has helped identify and accelerate the development of ethical leadership and team capability in CEO’s, C-Suite executives, and MDs within many of the top 100 companies in the UK and Australia. He is the author of the definitive guide to Strength-Based Leadership Coaching in Organisations (2016) and is a co-editor of The Practitioners Handbook of Team Coaching (2019). He has recently established the Centre for Climate Change Leadership in Organisations and is the editor of the Handbook on this topic, published in 2023.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “There is a significant gap between the scale and impact of anthropogenic climate change and the capacity of contemporary leadership to address those issues.”
• “We need to decouple economic growth from environmental degradation.”
• “We’re not good at long-term thinking as a species.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Handbook of Climate Change Leadership in Organisations by MacKie (25AFLY2 will get listeners 20% off the handbook)
• Book: Lead for the Planet by Andre
• Book: Earth for All by Dixon-Decleve et al
• Book: Climate Change by Hulme
• Book: Ethical Leadership: A Primer by McManus,R.M. et al
• Book: The Sustainability Mindset Principles by Rimanoczy

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Dr. Juandré Peacock is an accomplished organizational psychologist and speaker. He holds Master's and Doctorate degrees in Industrial-Organizational Psychology, credentials that have underpinned a distinguished career working with some of the most complex organizations in the world.

As a practitioner psychologist, Dr. Peacock applies research-based insights and strategies to every solution to ensure maximum impact. His work spans industries and continents, helping organizations foster connection and engagement, reduce attrition, and create cultures of growth and stability.

An advocate for lifelong learning and innovation, Dr. Peacock has developed proprietary frameworks like RocketStart™, Cornerstone Skills for Managers™, and SynergisticChange™— tools designed to revolutionize how organizations approach talent development and change.

Known for his engaging delivery, Dr. Peacock crafts experiences integrating scientific research with inspirational narratives into actionable insights for all organizations.

When not consulting or speaking, Dr. Peacock spends time with his wife, two children, and two dogs. Most weekends are spent in youth sports or arts, with the occasional fishing trip when time allows.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I think there's a little bit of a disconnect between what you learn in the books and what you get to apply in the job space...when you learn about these things, what you don't learn are the real world constraints that organizations have to deal with...it's all well and good to try to do a job analysis by the book, it's extremely difficult to do it in practice."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Reacher Series by Lee Child

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Dr. Toby Newstead is a respected leadership scholar and practitioner at the University of Tasmania, located in lutruwita on the lands of the palawa and pakana people. With a background in corporate change, leadership development, and professional communications, she brings practical expertise to her academic, coaching, and consulting work.

An internationally recognized researcher, Dr. Newstead specializes in virtues-based leadership development, leadership ethics, and leadership in the volunteer sector. Her research appears in top journals. In 2023, she published a book titled Leadership and Virtues: Understanding and Practicing Good Leadership.

Dr. Newstead is an established executive leadership coach and deeply engaged with industry and community. She regularly delivers impactful workshops, keynotes, and facilitation sessions. Dr Newstead’s research, teaching, coaching and facilitation has local and international impact, shaping the leaders of today and tomorrow.

A Quote From This Episode

• “If we can insert virtues between stimulus and response, we can be more intentional about who we are and how we show up as leaders.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Lessons in Chemistry
• Book: The Dreaming Path

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Dr. Brigitte Biehl is a Professor at SRH University of Applied Sciences in Berlin and a visiting researcher at FernUniversity in Hagen, Germany, where she worked as a guest professor for Gender and Queer Studies in Leadership and where she was awarded a Venia Legendi in 2024. Biehl serves on the editorial boards of "Management Learning," "Leadership," and "Organizational Aesthetics." Among her publications are books on “Leadership in Games of Thrones,” and “Leadership Lessons from the Kardashians.” She researches leadership development, art and leadership, and gender issues.

A Few (Awesome) Quotes From This Episode

• “Leadership really is everywhere.”
• “Let yourself be affected, go on a journey with the characters. Be seduced by the film experience, distance yourself from it, and then draw your conclusions.”
• “Film can help us become better leaders and better followers.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leadership Lessons from the Kardashians
• Book: Leadership in Games of Thrones
• Documentary: Crip Camp
• Film: CODA

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Alexander Negrow, Ph.D., is a theologian and leadership researcher with over thirty years of teaching and leadership experience. As the founder and President of Hodos Institute, he leads efforts to impact leadership practices in the United States and his country of birth, Ukraine. He is deeply passionate about advancing spiritual, ethical, and effective leadership, as well as spiritual coaching and guidance. Dr. Negrov integrates all these practices into his broader leadership philosophy.

Ronald E. Riggio, Ph. D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and former director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters on leadership, assessment centers, organizational psychology, and social psychology. He's served on the editorial boards of The Leadership Quarterly, Leadership, Group Dynamics, and Journal of Nonverbal Behavior.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Peace is like air; when it's there, you don't notice it. When it's absent, you suffocate."
• "Partnership, not competition, became a key theme and practice of Ukrainian leadership during this wartime."
• "Leadership begins and ends with presence—being there, next to people when they're hurt."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Leadership in Ukraine: Studies During Wartime
• Hodos Leadership

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Jim Vaselopulos is a C-level business advisor and executive coach with a proven record as a leader, strategist, rainmaker, and expert in new business development. With his principled leadership, visionary approach, and effective execution, Jim has successfully established new companies and transformed underperforming organizations.

As the founder of Rafti Advisors, Jim assists early-stage businesses in launching successfully, growth-stage enterprises in accelerating their progress, and established organizations in navigating complex challenges and strategic shifts.

Jim teaches sales and professional development and frequently speaks on the subjects of leadership and innovation. He also volunteers regularly with business incubators and veterans groups.

Jim is also the author of Clarity: Business Wisdom to Work Less and Achieve More and the co-host of The Leadership Podcast.

He graduated from the University of Illinois with a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering and earned his MBA at Marquette University. Jim is a dedicated husband and father of two wonderful children with his wife, Dana.

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• “If you feel like you’re playing Whack-a-Mole, you’re not digging deep enough, you’re not curious enough about what the real root cause is.”
• “When we talk about things that are symptoms, I’m not saying they’re not important…but the underlying condition is deeper.”
• “Balance is not something you get once and keep forever. You need feedback, and you need to keep adjusting.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Author: Peter Zeihan
• Author: Jordan Peterson
• Author: Leslie Zane

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Jeff Sigel is an author, coach, and consultant who is passionate about creating better work environments and more fulfilling careers for middle managers everywhere. After over 20 years of corporate experience at Nabisco, The Hershey Company, grocery retailer Ahold, and the restaurant company Cracker Barrel, Jeff has shifted his focus to coaching mid-level leaders and supporting companies looking to empower their middle management teams. He is currently a consultant and coach focused on turning strategy into action by developing middle management excellence. His book, "The Middle Matters: A Toolkit for Middle Managers" was published in June 2024.

A Few (Awesome) Quotes From This Episode

• “I spent a lot of years in middle management doing stuff wrong.”
• "These are the hardest skills that we actually have to learn to do our jobs—the so-called ‘soft skills.’"
• "The goal of leadership is to create the conditions where you trust your team to function at a high level even when you are not there.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leading Yourself

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Scott J. Allen, Ph.D., is an award-winning educator passionate about working with people at all levels and across industries. He serves as an instructor in SMU’s Cox School of Business Executive Education and spent more than 18 years as a professor of management. Allen’s areas of expertise include leader development, the future of work, and executive communication.

Scott has published more than 60 peer-reviewed articles and book chapters. He’s the co-author of several books and hosts Practical Wisdom for Leaders, ranked among the world's top 2.5% of podcasts. Along with the podcast, he publishes a weekly newsletter.

Scott frequently serves as a keynote speaker. In addition, he consults, facilitates workshops, and leads retreats across industries. Recent engagements include Catholic Charities, Cleveland Leadership Center, Key Bank, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, Progressive, Nestle, EY, Siegfried Group, Dallas Area Rapid Transit, Sherwin Williams, Whiting-Turner, Builder’s FirstSource, Vocon, CID Design Group, Toyota Motor North America, Lexus, Crestron, NASA-Glenn, Sam’s Club, Elbit America, Oatey, Lubrizol, Enbridge (Dominion), Endeavor Energy Resources, Scout Energy Partners, First Energy, TransAlta, FedEx Custom Critical, Thompson Hine LLP, Nordson, Beacon Oral Specialists, and Cleveland Clinic.

Scott served on the board of the International Leadership Association, Association of Leadership Educators, and Management and Organizational Behavior Teaching Society. He was named an ILA Fellow by the International Leadership Association in 2021.

Thanks to Martin Gutmann for interviewing!

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “If you’d asked me in 2020, I would’ve said I knew a lot about leadership. But now I see just how much I didn’t—and still don’t—know."
• "This podcast has systematized my learning. Every week, I’m talking with someone who knows more than I do."
• "Maybe I’ve reached base camp, but Everest is still ahead."

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Dr. Amy Climer is a thought leader in innovation, team development, and experiential learning. She teaches research-based practices, tools, and techniques to forward-thinking organizations such as the Mayo Clinic, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the University of Wisconsin.

Amy holds a Ph.D. in Leadership and Change from Antioch University. Her research led to the Deliberate Creative Team Scale, designed to measure the three critical dimensions of team creativity. Her TEDx talk, The Power of Deliberate Creative Teams, explains her research and philosophies on innovation, and she is the author of Deliberate Creative Teams: How to Lead for Innovative Results.

Amy is the host of The Deliberate Creative™ Podcast. She is the designer of Climer Cards, a creativity and teambuilding tool used by thousands to deepen conversations and generate ideas. In 2016 she won the Karl Rhonke Creativity Award from the Association for Experiential Education. Amy lives in Asheville, North Carolina in the U.S.

A Few (Awesome) Quotes From This Episode

• “We’ve known actually since the 1970s that creativity training works. The problem is we rarely bring it into our day-to-day work.”
• “It’s about being deliberate. You can’t just hope for creativity to happen—you have to follow a clear process and cultivate the right environment.”
• “If you want your team to be more creative, spend time clarifying the real problem before jumping into ideation. Even five minutes can change everything.”
• “Creative abrasion is when we can disagree around ideas and still respect each other personally. It’s healthy conflict that leads to better solutions.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Documentary: Where There Once Was Water
• Book: Your Creative Power by Alex Osborn
• Book: Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life by Dacher Keltner

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Jon Acuff is the New York Times bestselling author of ten books, including his most recent, All It Takes Is a Goal: The 3-Step Plan to Ditch Regret and Tap Into Your Massive Potential.

Published in more than twenty languages, his work is both critically acclaimed and adored by readers. When he’s not writing, Acuff can be found on a stage, as one of INC’s Top 100 Leadership Speakers. He’s spoken to hundreds of thousands of people at conferences, colleges and companies around the world including FedEx, Nissan, Microsoft, Lockheed Martin, Chick-fil-A, Nokia and Comedy Central. Known for his insights wrapped in humor, Acuff shared the stage with an American Icon when he opened up for Dolly Parton at the Ryman Auditorium.

For over 20 years he’s also helped some of the biggest brands tell their story, including The Home Depot, Bose, and Staples. His fresh perspective on life has given him the opportunity to write for Reader’s Digest, Fast Company, The Harvard Business Review and Time Magazine.

He lives outside of Nashville, TN with his wife Jenny and two teenage daughters.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “If you want a kind 16-year-old, give a six-year-old kindness and then 10 years to practice.”
• “Another thing I’m thinking about is how do I be interruptible for a small number of people. I’m highly interruptible for three people: my wife, and my two daughters.”
• “I’m learning to hold two opposite thoughts at once: one is that you’re doing better than you think, and the other is that you’re more capable than you realize.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• All It Takes Is a Goal by Jon Acuff
• Finish: Give Yourself the Gift of Done by Jon Acuff
• Soundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking by Jon Acuff
• The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey
• The War of Art by Steven Pressfield

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Cecily Sommers helps leaders anticipate and steward transformational change. Named one of the world’s "50 Leading Female Futurists" by Forbes, Cecily embeds foresight in leadership development programs, training clients to become their own best futurists.

As the strategist that Google, Salesforce, Purina, and JP Morgan Chase turn to make sense of their future, Cecily guides organizations through critical questions such as "Which opportunities give us the most advantage?” and “How do we develop change-ready leaders?”

A two-time TEDx speaker and frequent keynote presenter at conferences, Cecily has been described as “catalytic and brilliant” for making complex issues simple and relatable. Dedicated to advancing change literacy in organizations, she created the “Lead Like a Futurist” program and is a certified Transformational Coach.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “Leaders and futurists occupy the same position—if you’re leading, you’re already at the edge, looking into the foggy distance to see which direction to go.”
• “The future is not figureoutable—it’s only followable. And what futurists do is study change, its forces, and its patterns.”
• “We zoom out to see what matters and how things work so that, when we zoom back in, we know how to materialize what truly matters.”
• “Sometimes leaders think they need more time, but often what they really need is more space—space to reflect, sense, and align with what’s unfolding.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Think Like a Futurist by Cecily Sommers
• The Fourth Turning Is Here by Neil Howe
• Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order: Why Nations Succeed and Fail by Ray Dalio

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On his journey from a Parking Lot Attendant to CEO, Brian Cunningham has studied the leadership/followership dynamic at every level within a complex organization. As a life-long student of leadership and an explorer of numerous paths of expanded awareness, Brian has sought to uncover the larger possibilities of our service as a leader. Most importantly, we need to integrate these discoveries into the day-to-day practice of leading in our increasing complexity.

As a reflection of these many years of ongoing study, research, and real-life application, Brian has written three groundbreaking books that illuminate the keys to our developmental progression into the highest levels of leadership service. His most recent book, Leadership: The Universal Principles, details the two universal principles that are foundational to our growth in leadership and in life. This book provides a practical framework that can be used to create your unique path of leadership mastery.

A Few (Awesome) Quotes From This Episode

• “Leaders and followers are just two sides of the same coin, and we cannot move through significant complexity without each other."
• “Whatever I think or read pales in comparison to what reality teaches you.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leadership: The Universal Principles
• Book: Mastering Leadership by Bob Anderson and Bill Adams
• Book: Scaling Leadership by Bob Anderson and Bill Adams
• Book: The Cosmic Hologram by Dr. Jude Currivan

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Dr. Joanne Murphy is Chair of Inclusive Leadership at Birmingham Business School, University of Birmingham. Her research explores leadership, change and organisational development in political volatility, including environments affected by ethno-political conflict. Her latest book is Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace.

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• “I grew up in Northern Ireland and was part of this ‘troubles generation.’ That has defined, to a very large extent, the work that I do, because conflict and violence became a big part of my reality.”
• “What I’m really interested in—and I suppose the connective tissue through my work—is leadership. How do we get people to understand conflict and then lead them out of it?”
• “When we talk about things like war or these intractable, wicked problems, they seem to be more prevalent rather than less. And that’s why understanding conflict—and how leaders can help resolve it—matters so much.”

A Quote From Hume's Nobel Speech

• "All conflict is about difference, whether the difference is race, religion or nationality...Difference is of the essence of humanity. Difference is an accident of birth and it should therefore never be the source of hatred or conflict. The answer to difference is to respect it. Therein lies a most fundamental principle of peace – respect for diversity."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Leadership, liminality, and ‘wicked’ conflicts: John Hume and the untangling of the Northern Ireland ‘Troubles’ by Murphy
• Book: Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland by Patrick Radden Keefe
• Book: John Hume: A Biography by Paul Routledge
• Documentary: John Hume - Ireland's Greatest
• Book: The Testaments by Margaret Atwood

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Bob Kulhan is a professor at the Duke University Fuqua School of Business and an elite improv and sketch comedian. Bob is the Founder & CEO of Business Improv® – a 25-yr-old consultancy linking improvisation to business through behavioral sciences. His focus: People Skills. Human Connection.

His clients include a who’s who of businesses (from pharma to manufacturing to aerospace), universities, organizations, and government institutions. He has also worked extensively with entrepreneurs and solopreneurs, as well as small and medium size businesses.

He is the best-selling author of Getting to Yes And: The Art of Business Improv (Stanford University Press). Kulhan also created the dynamic online (asynchronous) program, Improvisational Communication in 2019, for those who want to study Business Improv in the comfort of their own homes, at their own pace.

A Few (AWESOME) Quotes From This Episode

• ‘Yes, And’ does not mean I agree with you—it means I’m here, I’m listening, and I’m building thoughtfully on what you’ve said.”
• “Follow the follower: Great leaders pay close attention to those they lead, because those people are actively teaching you how to lead them.”
• “As a leader, my job isn’t to have the right answer; it’s to find the right answer by fostering real collaboration.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Improvised Dialogues: Emergence and Creativity in Conversation by R. Keith Sawyer
• The Wisdom of Crowds by James Surowiecki

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Anthony Amunategui is the founder of CDO Group, a national commercial construction firm he started almost 25 years ago with a small group in his basement. Today CDO Group has worked with some of the world’s largest brands to build an estimated one million square feet of retail space per year.

Anthony has a true passion for discovering what makes people successful in business and in life. He loves having conversations about what the future holds for us personally and professionally and the adventures that shape that journey.

A Quote From This Episode

• "The entrepreneur of the future will be tasked with finding those still spaces to do the mental exercises - to find that mental fitness that's going to drive their success."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Anthony's Podcast - Future Factory
• Book - AA Big Book

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Todd Bertsch is a dynamic entrepreneur, speaker, and life-optimization coach, best known as the host of The BOLT Podcast. His inspiring journey from overcoming early life challenges to experiencing a pivotal transformation in his 20s has established him as a respected figure in digital marketing, education, and leadership.

In 2009, Todd founded Evolve Marketing, a successful digital agency. Passionate about inspiring others, Todd's mission is to encourage individuals to embrace change, cultivate a growth mindset, and lead meaningful, fulfilling lives. He has served on numerous nonprofit boards and is currently the president of Leadership Akron Signature Class 39.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “It took me a long time to get to where I am—truly fulfilled and happy—and I want more people to reach that place without having to fail so many times. You can start today.”
• "When you shift from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset, you open yourself up to possibilities—you become more empathetic, self-aware, and ultimately a more effective leader.”
• “A lot of people love the idea of being a leader, but they don’t realize how much responsibility comes with it. It’s a privilege that shouldn’t be taken for granted.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• The Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk
• Optical Emotions by Dr. Laura Aldape
• Positive Intelligence by Shirzad Chamine
• Be Water, My Friend by Shannon Lee

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Dr. Flo Falayi, a Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry, leads leadership and executive development within the Advisory practice, CEO/C-Suite Accelerator, and Succession team. He focuses on executive development, coaching, team effectiveness, and inclusive leadership programs to align with strategic priorities and enhance satisfaction, motivation, and retention.

With 28 years of experience, Dr. Flo helps organizations execute strategy through effective leadership development and coaching. He has held P&L responsibilities across HR, Business Technology, L&D, and Training in global organizations.

Dr. Flo Falayi brings a global perspective from working across North America, Europe, and West Africa. He applies psychological principles to solve leadership challenges and partners with senior leaders on assessments, 360 evaluations, and succession planning.

Before Korn Ferry, he co-founded a boutique firm and was a principal at a global consultancy. A recognized thought leader, his insights appear in various publications, and he speaks frequently on inclusive leadership, hybrid leadership, and coaching strategies.

Flo is married to his college sweetheart, Lande and they have three young men, two in college and a high school junior.

Flo is a YALE scholar, holds a PhD in Organizational Leadership and an Executive MBA candidate at the University of Georgia, Terry College of Business. He holds a Master's degree and a Bachelor's degree in Computer Information Systems, and a Bachelor's degree in Architecture.

Dr. Flo is an accredited coach (ACC) certified by the International Coach Federation (ICF) and a member of the American Psychological Association (APA), Change Management Professionals (ACMP), Project Management Institute (PMI), and the Forbes Coaches Council.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Enterprise leaders have to be able to perform and transform the business at the same time."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Top 5 Leadership Trends That Will Shape 2025 (Korn Ferry)
• Book: Calling Bullshit byCalling Bullshit: The Art of Skepticism in a Data-Driven World by Carl T. Bergstrom & Jevin D. West
• Book: The Trusted Advisor byThe Trusted Advisor by David H. Maister, Robert Galford, and Charles Green
• Book: Leadership on the Line: Staying Alive through the Dangers of Leading by Ronald A. Heifetz & Martin Linsky

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Corey Crossan is a research and teaching fellow at The Oxford Character Project where she develops and facilitates character development programs for students and industry. She is also the co-founder of Virtuosity Character, a mobile software application created to support the daily, deliberate practice of character-based leadership development.

Dr. Mary Crossan is a Distinguished University Professor and Professor of Strategic Leadership at the Ivey Business School at Western University, Ontario. She is also a co-founder of Virtuosity Character and co-host of the “Question of Character” podcast.

A Quote From This Episode

• "We discovered that it wasn’t a failure of competence, but largely this failure of character.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• App: Virtuosity Character
• Mary Crossan on Google Scholar
• Movie: Freud's Last Lessons
• Book: The Science of Motivating Young People by Yeager

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Jeffrey Beeson has a dual MBA in finance from the Wharton School of Business and an MA in international business from the Lauder Institute. They set the foundation for Jeffrey's interest in business strategy, culture, and leadership.

During his work in the European offices of Bain and McKinsey, he led projects in a broad spectrum of industries on a pan-European and worldwide basis. During his collaboration with clients, Jeffrey experienced firsthand that culture eats strategy for breakfast. Jeffrey expanded his expertise in culture transformation by joining Senn Delaney, the first firm to foster thriving organizational cultures worldwide. At Senn Delaney, he headed culture rollout initiatives for multinational corporations throughout Europe.

Jeffrey continued his personal learning journey at the European Office of
the Center for Creative Leadership (CCL), a prestigious worldwide leadership
development practice. During his tenure at CCL he touched the lives of
thousands of leaders throughout Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA) region and worldwide.

From 2003 to 2011, Jeffrey served on the board of the International Leadership Association, the largest member-based organization dedicated to advancing leadership worldwide.

A Quote From Beeson

• "The newly emerging science of networks opens an entirely new horizon on how to lead people, design organizations, and make sense of complex social environments."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Network Leadership: Promoting a Healthier World through the Power of Networks by Jeffrey Beeson
• Jeffrey's Blog
• Jeffrey's Newsletter
• Book: No Fit - My 1,700-Mile Walk from Apartheid by Nico de Klerk

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Ira Chaleff is an author, speaker, and executive coach in the greater Washington, DC, area. His extensive experience with the US federal government includes directing and chairing the nonpartisan Congressional Management Foundation, where he is now Chair Emeritus.

Ira co-authored the original handbook for newly elected Members of Congress, now in its fifteenth edition, and has facilitated over a hundred retreats for congressional offices. He has led and participated in Democracy strengthening programs in Asia and West Africa and consulted for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in Eastern Europe.

He has been an adjunct faculty member at the Federal Executive Institute and a visiting leadership scholar at Churchill College, Cambridge University in England. Ira served two terms on the Board of Directors of the International Leadership Association and is the founder of its Followership Community.

His previous award-winning books include The Courageous Follower: Standing Up To and For Our Leaders and Intelligent Disobedience: Doing Right When What You’re Told To Do Is Wrong which has been published in translation in Beijing and Moscow. Ira speaks on courageous followership and intelligent disobedience at a wide variety of institutions, including the US Department of State, the US Naval Academy, the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the European Commission of the EU, and many others.

A Quote From Ira Chaleff

• "If you were a supporter of Kamala Harris, and are feeling frightened by the election results. That is how Trump supporters would be feeling if Harris had won. Each side feared tyranny if the other side won, and neither can imagine how the other side could feel that. The work now is to reduce the chasm between these lived world views and for both sides to be vigilant and protect the rights we cherish.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: To Stop a Tyrant by Chaleff
• Book: Intelligent Disobedience by Chaleff
• Book: The Courageous Follower by Chaleff

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Zuzana Čmelíková has been teaching and coaching for more than 20 years, especially in the diagnosis and creation of organizational culture, leadership development, self-management, resilience, stress management, time management, managerial training, soft-skills training. Zuzana has completed the 3rd degree of university studies in the field of human management at Matej Bel University. She successfully completed professional internships abroad in Belgium and in the USA.

In 2019, she became an internationally certified persolog® coach for increasing personal performance, organizational performance and streamlining communication and teamwork. In 2020, she received certification at the University of Pennsylvania in the specialization Positive Psychology and Resilience, directly from the creators of this concept. In 2024 she won the category Lecturer of the Year in Learning & Development Awards.

She is a Leadership & Resilience Professional in Slovakia.

A Quote From This Episode

• "We need to be aware of who we are and what we stand for, and it will create a cultural identity. And I believe that we can base it on our history. We have amazing role models who fought for freedom in our country."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Ethics: The Heart of Leadership by Joanne B. Ciulla

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Neal Foard has spent 30 years in advertising and marketing, creating award-winning campaigns for global power brands like Budweiser, Sony and Lexus. For his work on Toyota, Neal ranked among the top ten most awarded creative directors in the world in 2002. As the author of an innovative talent development series, Neal was named Worldwide Director of Creative Learning for global ad agency Saatchi & Saatchi.

He has consulted on creative messaging for Fortune 500 companies, governments and universities and been a featured speaker at TEDx conferences. Most recently, Neal has gained a following on social media for his inspirational videos about the kindnesses of everyday people.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Curiosity and humility. Boy, those are going to go a long way as a leader."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Youtube - Neal's YouTube Channel
• Website - Neal's Website
• TedTalk - Neal's TedTalk
• Empathy Video - Cleveland Clinic
• Book - The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky
• Poet - Charles Bukowski

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After a life of playing professional baseball, Josh Lindblom quickly realized he had nothing on his resume between "player here" and "player there." He felt a deep longing to discover who he had been created to be so that he could do what he had been designed to do. After being guided through retirement by a coach and having numerous discussions with friends and teammates, he realized that the longing he felt also resided deep and unsurfaced in the hearts of everyone he talked to. Congruency quickly changed from something he wanted to do to something he had to do.

Josh is married to his high school sweetheart, Aurielle. They have four children. He enjoys getaway weekends with his wife, coaching his kids and their friends in any and every sport, and hosting friends for any and every reason—like a spontaneous Royal Rumble party.

Josh has a Master’s in Biblical Studies (MABS), a personal and leadership development certification from Leader Breakthru, and an Associate Certified Coach certification (ACC) from the International Coaching Federation.

Josh’s greatest passion is walking alongside others as they discover who they are and decide to make the courageous choice to align who they are with what they do each day of their lives.

A Quote From Josh

• "We help you make your invisible life visible so you can break free from where you are and become who you were created to be."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Organization: Congruency
• Book: Garden City by John Mark Comer
• Book: Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership by Ruth Haley Barton
• Book: Life Without Lack by Dallas Willard

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Carey Jaros brings passion for our Purpose — Saving Lives and Making Life Better Through Well-Being Solutions — to her daily work at GOJO (the makers of Purell). Her focus is on continuously extending GOJO leadership as a market-making, growth-oriented Company that cares about the health and well-being of people worldwide and within its walls. Carey joined GOJO in 2014 as a board member, then held executive roles as Chief Strategy Officer – where she oversaw Marketing, Product Management, and Innovation – and as Chief Operating Officer before becoming President and CEO in January 2020.

As an operator, investor, and board member, Carey has worked on and in more than 50 organizations— from established public and private companies, to startups and non-profits. Prior to GOJO, Carey was the President of Walnut Ridge Strategic Management Company, and was a Vice President at Dealer Tire, a large privately held tire distributor. She spent the first 12 years as a management consultant at Bain & Company.

Carey is a Board Director of Grocery Outlet (NASDAQ: GO) and an Advisory Board Member of venture-backed menstrual products startup Aunt Flow. She also serves on the Boards of The Cleveland Foundation, University Hospitals, and Laurel School.

Carey received her A.B. in Public Policy from Brown University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. She and her husband live in Northeast Ohio with their three children.

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• "We have a whole-systems approach to social, environmental, and economic sustainability, including certification as a WBE, product certifications, and a vertically integrated supply chain. With our strong foundation in place, we're advancing our Sustainable Value strategy and action plan."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - The Journey Home: Autobiography of an American Swami
• Website - Frances Frei and Anne Morriss
• Book - Unleashed by Frances Frei and Anne Morriss
• Ted Talk - How to Build (and Rebuild) Trust by Frances Frei
• Podcast - Fixable

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Ralph A. Gigliotti, Ph.D., serves as Assistant Vice President for Organizational Leadership in University Academic Affairs at Rutgers University. In this role, he directs the Office of Organizational Leadership and provides executive leadership for a portfolio of signature leadership programs, consultation services, and research initiatives. Ralph regularly partners with campus leaders on projects of strategic importance, and he serves as an executive advisor for senior academic leaders across Rutgers in the areas of change leadership, crisis leadership, organizational strategy, and continuous improvement.

He holds part-time faculty appointments in the Department of Communication (School of Communication and Information), Ph.D. Program in Higher Education (Graduate School of Education), Department of Family Medicine and Community Health (Robert Wood Johnson Medical School), and Rutgers Business School. He is author and editor of 10 books and nearly 50 journal articles and book chapters on topics related to organizational communication and leadership in higher education.

Ralph is president of the Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI) —an organization of nearly 100 colleges and universities from across North America who seek to advance sustainable excellence in higher education by promoting successful practices and approaches used to drive change, innovation, and continuous improvement across academic and administrative functions.

We had two other guests toward the end of the episode who promoted some upcoming events with the Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI).

• Kim-Marie Jenkins, Senior Director for Organizational Change and Culture, University of Maine System
• Rick Wernoski, Associate Vice Chancellor for Operational Excellence, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

A Quote From This Episode

• "We find ourselves at a moment in time where individuals, organizations, and communities are responding to the waves of change."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Post-Crisis Leadership: Resilience Renewal and Reinvention in the Aftermath of Disruption by Gigliotti
• Organization: Network for Change and Continuous Innovation (NCCI)
• Learning Opportunity: NCCI In-Person Institutes
• Book: Grant by Ron Chernow
• Book: Whatever It Is, I’m Against It: Resistance to Change in Higher Education by Rosenberg

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GC Myers is a contemporary painter from the Finger Lakes region of New York. He came to painting in mid-life and quite by accident, as a result of an accident that occurred while building his home in the early 1990s. Since that time, his recognizable landscapes, known for their strong colors and moods, are avidly collected here and abroad.

Over the years, he has had over 60 one-man exhibitions at galleries across the country which represent his work. These solo exhibits have taken place at galleries in New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, North Carolina, and California.

In 2012, Myers' work was featured in an exhibition, "Internal Landscapes: The Paintings of GC Myers," at the Fenimore Art Museum in Cooperstown, NY.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Art is about connection; you've got to be a full person. You've got to be a well-rounded person. Eventually, it shows if you're not."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website - GC Myers
• Blog - RedTree Times
• Book - In Quiet Places by GC Myers
• Documentary - GC Myers: Finding Home
• Paintings - Archeology Series by GC Myers
• Musician - Bill Mize
• Musician/Composer - Moondog
  • "I do not strive to be different for the sake of being different, but do not mind being different if my difference is a result of my being myself" - Moondog
• Book: Demian by Hermann Hesse
  • “The bird fights its way out of the egg. The egg is the world. Who would be born must first destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.” - Hermann Hesse, Demian

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Marianne Crosley retired as President and Chief Executive Officer of the Cleveland Leadership Center after leading the civic education leadership development and civic engagement organization for 14 years. Under her leadership programs to build civic leadership in Greater Cleveland grew significantly to reach 600 individuals across generations annually.

In addition, she launched SPARK, an annual leadership conference, and Accelerate, an annual civic pitch competition. Prior to assuming the helm at the Leadership Center she served as the founding Executive Director of Summer on the Cuyahoga. This economic development initiative attracts young talent to Northeast Ohio.

She has received numerous awards, including Crain's Cleveland Business Woman of Note, Smart Business Progressive Woman, Non-Profit Executive Director of the Year, and the Lifetime Legacy Award from the Association of Leadership Programs. She is passionate about creating positive community change and has leadership roles on several non-profit boards.

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• "We make sure that each program is structured differently so you can begin with your high school program and move on to our collegiate, young professional, mid-career, and senior levels. And it's all a journey - you're not repeating anything that you're learning. You're being exposed to new concepts and new people every step of the way."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Association of Leadership Programs
• Cleveland Leadership Center
• Lovely One by Ketanji Brown Jackson

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Dr. David V. Day holds appointments as Professor of Psychological Science and Leadership and serves as the Academic Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College in California (USA). He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles, books, and book chapters, many pertaining to the core topics of leadership and leadership development and is the author of the recent book titled “Developing Leaders and Leadership: Principles, Practices, and Processes.” David received the 2024 Eminent Scholar Award from the Network of Leadership Scholars at the Academy of Management and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association.

Quotes From Developing Leaders and Leadership

• "Just because an activity is fun or enjoyable does not mean it is developmental. It perpetuates the predominant mindset that leadership development is a like a pass to an amusement park. You go on a bunch of rides, maybe play some games, have a laugh or two, and write it off as your developmental investment in leadership for the year."
• "Attending a few workshops or programs spread out over time is not going to do much in terms of developing expert-level leadership. There needs to be
  an ongoing commitment to practicing one’s leadership to get the time
  and amount of deliberate practice to become that expert leader."
• "The lack of evidence to support the effectiveness of leadership development in for-profit organizations and corporations is unsettling, to say the least."
• "Sending a changed person back into an unchanged system tends to be an exercise in futility. A systems perspective incorporates environmental influence into the design and delivery of leader development interventions."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• David Day on Google Scholar
• Book: Developing Leaders and Leadership: Principles, Practices, and Processes by Day
• Assessment: International Personality Item Pool (IPIP)
• Book: Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg
• Book: The Power Broker by Robert Caro
• Network - Criterion Channel

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Cathy Carroll learned about family business leadership the best way you can – by leading her family business. After a twenty-year corporate career, she left United Airlines to lead her father’s business and instantly recognized a difference between leadership in a family business vs leadership in a large corporation.

Founder and President of Legacy Onward, Inc., Cathy Carroll is a family business leadership coach and author of Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With both Love and Logic. She also trains advisors serving in family enterprises as well as coaches who maintain their credential with the International Coaching Federation.

Cathy earned certificates in both Leadership Coaching and Executive Facilitation at Georgetown University, an MBA at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and a BA at Boston College. She is also a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) in the ICF.

An active member of the community, Cathy currently serves as Vice-Chair the Board of the Purposeful Planning Instituteand co-founder & Treasurer of A Leg To Stand On which provides prosthetic limbs to children in developing countries.

Quote From This Episode

• "There are these polarities that live within us that lead to huge blind spots, and our reactive tendency is to double down on our strength, which puts us into 'overuse.'"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Hug of War: How to Lead a Family Business With Both Love and Logic
• Book: Polarity Management by Johnson
• Book: Polarity Intelligence by Christopherson and Troseth
• Book: Navigating Polarities by Emerson and Lewis
• Book: Family Business as Paradox by Schuman, Stutz, & Ward
• Website: Legacy Onward: Leadership Coaching for Family Business
• Television Show: House
• Quote: "A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" - African Proverb

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Dr. William Attaway is an Executive Coach specializing in leadership, mindset, and productivity who has been leading teams and coaching leaders for nearly 30 years. He's coached hundreds of agency owners and their teams on six continents, helping them to navigate and overcome the leadership and mindset challenges that can be overwhelming. William has spoken at events and to teams, including Seven Figure Agency, Prospecting on Demand, Spyglass Ops, the All-In Agency Summit, Extendly, SHRM, and MinistryPass. He's written several best-selling books on leadership and is currently working on his third, which will be released in January 2025.

Pulling from his nearly 30 years of leadership experience leading and coaching leaders and teams personally, as well as from the hundreds of leaders he has coached, clients have access to a deep and wide knowledge base, a coach who is FOR you, and a proven methodology that will help you stop spinning your wheels into overwhelm and overwork. He and his amazing wife, Charlotte, have been married for 26 years, and they have two exceptional daughters, one in college and one in high school.

Three Quotes From This Episode

• "Consistency is the mother of momentum. Everybody wants momentum - only way to get there is consistency."
• "It's not me against you, it's me and you against the problem. We're together on this."
• "Growth only happens on the other side of change. Everybody wants to grow, but not everybody wants to change."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• William's Website
• Book: The Business of Expertise by David C Baker
• Book: Getting Things Done by David Allen

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Dr. Lisa Marie Kerr is an Associate Professor in the College of Leadership and Ethics at the U.S. Naval War College (NWC). She joined NWC in September 2022 after a 30-year career in civilian higher education focusing on student success, learning assessment, and leader development. Dr. Kerr contributes to executive leader development for the U.S. Navy. Her scholarship focuses on effective facilitation for learning among mid-career and executive military leaders.

Dr. Liz Cavallaro is currently a tenured Associate Professor of Leader Development at the U.S. Naval War College (USNWC), in Newport, RI. She is an Executive Coach, Adult Development Scholar, Educator, and Leader Development Practitioner. Her research interests include a range of topics relevant to the development of leaders, including cognitive development, coaching, self-awareness, organizational development, wellbeing, meaningful work, and eudaimonia.

Dr. Leigh Ann Perry joined the U.S. Naval War College’s (NWC) College of Leadership and Ethics faculty in June 2021 as an Associate Professor of Psychology and Behavioral Science supporting Navy leader development in the areas of psychological health, holistic wellness, resilience, and mindfulness. Dr. Perry is a National Board-Certified Health and Wellness Coach (NBC-HWC) and International Coaching Federation (ICF) Associate Certified Coach (ACC). She also volunteers as the RI State Director for the Veterans Yoga Project.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I am enjoying the conversations we're having right now related to spiritual readiness and the role that resilience plays in caring for the holistic sailor."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Likeable Badass by Fragale
• Book - The Anxious Generation by Haidt
• Book - Happier You by Dr. Amen
• Television Show - Ted Lasso

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Betsy Myers is on a mission to improve leadership by developing leaders and teams who infuse passion and purpose into their organizations by leading from both the head and the heart.

With over three decades as a thought leader, author, speaker, and consultant, Betsy is a renowned expert on emerging leadership trends and women’s leadership. Her extensive experience includes working with corporate, government, non-profit, and higher education leaders. She is the author of Take the Lead: Motivate, Inspire, and Bring Out the Best in Yourself and Everyone Around You.

Betsy is currently a Senior Advisor at the Warren Bennis Leadership Institute at the University of Cincinnati. She also serves on the Council on Advancing Women in Business for the Export-Import Bank of the United States.

A senior adviser to two U.S. presidents, Betsy served as President Clinton’s Advisor on Women’s Issues, was the first Director of the White House Office for Women’s Initiatives and Outreach, and was Chief Operating Officer of President Obama’s 2008 National Presidential Campaign.

Previously, Betsy was founding director of the Center for Women and Business at Bentley University, a repository of best practices for corporations to recruit and retain women leaders. She was Executive Director of the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard’s Kennedy School, focusing the Center’s teaching and research around authentic inner leadership. She held leadership roles in the U.S. Small Business Administration, including as the Director of the Office of Women’s Business Ownership at the SBA where she was an advocate for the 9.4 million women entrepreneurs in the United States.

Betsy has a Masters in Public Administration from Harvard Kennedy School.

A Quote From This Episode

• "There's a lot more we agree on than we disagree on...we have to move away from this 'othering.' We 'other' people - 'they're different from me, they're bad.'"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Take the Lead: Motivate, Inspire, and Bring Out the Best in Yourself and Everyone Around You
• HBR Podcast - Women at Work
• Scholar - Linda Nielsen
• Article - Research: Why Gender Bias Persists Even When Organizations Try to Curb It

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Dr. Adrian Isabella is a Senior Executive and Chief Innovation Officer at LeaderEdge, a cutting-edge consultancy specializing in leadership development and organizational transformation. With a PhD in Cognitive Science and a deep passion for technology, Dr. Isabella is at the forefront of integrating Artificial Intelligence (AI) into leadership strategies, helping organizations harness the power of AI to drive innovation and improve decision-making.

A thought leader in AI and leadership, Dr. Isabella’s expertise spans over two decades of research and hands-on application of cognitive and machine learning systems to optimize team performance and organizational design.

Dr. Isabella is a sought-after speaker and consultant. She frequently delivers keynotes at global conferences on AI, leadership, and the future of work.

When she’s not exploring AI's potential, Dr. Isabella enjoys mentoring the next generation of leaders and contributing to research on the ethical implications of AI in leadership. Actually, all of that is false...she is an AI.

Alan Isaacson is a recognized authority in leadership development and adult learning, serving as the Head of Leadership Programs at LeaderEdge. With over 25 years of experience, Alan is dedicated to helping individuals and organizations unlock their full potential by focusing on the core principles of leadership, personal growth, and continuous development.

His expertise lies in adult development, where he integrates cutting-edge research with practical applications to design transformative leadership programs. Alan deeply understands how adults learn and grow, tailoring his coaching and facilitation methods to meet leaders where they are and guide them through their professional and personal evolution.

At LeaderEdge, Alan leads a team that designs and delivers innovative programs to build adaptive, resilient leaders who thrive in complex and changing environments.

Alan is known for his engaging style and ability to inspire leaders to challenge their assumptions and stretch beyond their comfort zones. Actually, all of that is false...he is an AI.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: NotebookLM
• Gary Lloyd - The Leadership Skills Lab
• Gary Lloyd's website
• Podcast Episode - Deep Mind with Hannah Fry

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Jessica Leving Siegel is an award-winning writer and communications consultant with experience spanning the newspaper and magazine industry, the nonprofit sector, and the disability community. She spent ten years working on internal comms teams for several organizations. Now, she uses her expertise to help other changemakers hone their messaging and amplify their impact. She is also the author of three children’s books, host of The Special Siblings Podcast, and founded her nonprofit organization, The Center for Siblings of People with Disabilities. In 2024, she mobilized the grassroots group North Shore Neighbors Say Bienvenidos to coordinate a humanitarian response to Chicago’s migrant crisis.

Julie Stark owns and manages The Stark Solution, a talent strategy, training design, and coaching firm in Chicago, Illinois. She specializes in helping for-profit, non-profit, and social enterprise teams connect strategic goals with vital performance development. Her areas of expertise include consultative strategy, enterprise culture shift, learning roadmaps facilitated needs assessment with multi-level leaders, end-to-end virtual/in-person training design/deployment, and professional coaching for real-time performance growth.

Dr. Dennis Roberts is an independent consultant, speaker, and author. Roberts’ interest in leadership persisted throughout his forty-one-year career as a student affairs educator. He last served as Assistant Vice President of Education for the Qatar Foundation. During his seven years with QF, he worked with Qatari and expatriate colleagues to create student development and support services for its branch universities at Education City in Doha, Qatar. Roberts has authored six books and over 60 book chapters. One of his most significant books was Deeper Learning in Leadership (Jossey-Bass, 2007).

ILA Cultural Emersion ExeprienceThe session is designed for those wanting to learn from changemakers or those working collaboratively on a public issue. Contextualize, explore, and experience a local response to a global issue: an influx of asylum seekers and refugees. In this three-hour session, participants will engage with the community and learn about a humanitarian response from the North Shore of Chicago. What can be learned about the context for leadership and the conditions impacting U.S. immigration practices from the Chicago community leadership effort?

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Dr. Tim O’Brien is a Lecturer in Public Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School where he teaches Exercising Leadership and Developing People in degree programs and chairs the Leadership for the 21st Century and Art & Practice of Leadership Development executive programs. Tim designs and delivers leadership development programs for government, business, and non-profit organizations across the globe. His research interests focus on the complex challenges people hope to address, the understanding they bring, and the meaning-making they need to address those challenges. This lens on leadership development emphasizes self, group, and organizational awareness over content and discrete skills. How to develop and cultivate that self-awareness is the primary concern of Tim’s research. His teaching methods are experiential, collaborative, and reflective in nature and help participants develop the insight, inquiry, and purpose they need to meet the demands of the challenges they face.

Before his appointment at HKS, Tim was a leadership consultant for INSEAD Business School’s Management Acceleration Program and faculty for the Harvard Graduate School of Education’s Programs in Professional Education. Tim graduated from New York University and earned his Ed.D. in Human Development and Education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. He earned his 100-ton captain's license directing sail-training programs aboard traditionally-rigged wooden schooners in the Atlantic and Caribbean.

A Quote From This Episode

• "To really make an organizational-level impact, you've gotta pull the work into the organization."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Looking for the Development in Leadership Development by O'Brien
• Book: An Everyone Culture by Kegan and Associates
• Book: Everyone Who Is Gone Is Here by Jonathan Blitzer
• Book: Course Design and Assessment by Kathy Lund Dean and Associates

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Dr. David Reyes serves as the Talent & Leadership Development Manager at Southwest Airlines, overseeing the Leadership Development Programs strategy and execution. Before his work in Talent Development, he served in administration in higher education and continues to teach as an adjunct professor for Communication and Leadership classes.

In 2021, David received his Doctorate of Education and studied the social responsibility and the efficacy of Leadership Educators and practitioners. David has been married to Madison for 8 years, and they have two children, Judah (3) and Nora (1 month).

A Quote From This Episode

• "We should not be the sage on the stage but to be the guide on the side."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Mindset by Carol Dweck
• Learning Leadership by Kouzes and Posner
• The Fearless Organization: Creating Psychological Safety in the Workplace for Learning Innovation and Growth by Edmonson

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Martin Gonzalez is the creator of Google’s Effective Founders Project, a global research program that uses people analytics to uncover what makes the best startup founders succeed and shares their success formula with the world. He has run leadership courses for thousands of tech startup founders across seventy countries in the Americas, Asia, Africa, and Europe. He is a frequent lecturer on entrepreneurship, organization design, and people analytics at Stanford, Wharton, and INSEAD. He is also the author of the bestselling book, The Bonfire Moment: Bring Your Team Together to Solve the Hardest Issues Startups Face.

Martin is a principal of organization and leadership development at Google. He works with Google’s senior leaders to shape team culture, develop their people, and expand their leadership, so they can build cool things that matter. In his ten years there, he’s worked with leaders across Google Research, DeepMind, Technology & Society, Responsible AI, Pixel, Fitbit, YouTube, Search, Maps, Android, and Chrome, to name a few.

In 2023, The Aspen Institute recognized him as a First Movers Fellow, honoring his pioneering work at Google. In 2024, he was featured on the Thinkers50 Radar List, a prestigious recognition dubbed the "Oscars of management thinking" by the Financial Times, highlighting emerging thinkers expected to significantly influence future management thinking.

Before Google, he was a management consultant with the Boston Consulting Group and a product manager at Johnson & Johnson.

Martin has studied organizational psychology and behavioral science at Columbia University and the London School of Economics. He’s a serial immigrant, having lived and worked in New York, Jakarta, Singapore, Taipei, and Manila, where he is originally from. Today, he lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife, Bea, and three kids: Noelle, Jaime, and Andrea.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Startups have a people problem."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website/Book - The Bonfire Moment
• Book - Creative Construction by Gary Pisano

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Dr. Carla Ortega Santori is the Strategic Initiatives Manager at the Doerr Institute for New Leaders. Prior to this, she developed learning and development strategies at a leading healthcare company in Puerto Rico. Carla has worked as an Executive Recruiter and volunteered as an AmeriCorps VISTA.

She holds a Ph.D. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from Carlos Albizu University and a B.A. in Psychology from Villanova University. Her doctoral dissertation studied the psychometric properties of the Passion for Work scale in a Puerto Rican population.

Dr. Dennis McCunney works in the Center for Student Success at East Carolina University and serves as an adjunct faculty member in political science and adult education. He started at ECU in 2012 as director of the Volunteer and Service-Learning Center, where he expanded the center’s scope to include leadership education, global learning, and civic engagement programming. He led ECU’s first effort to become classified as a Leadership for Public Purpose university through the American Council on Education.

His professional and research interests include public service and leadership development, organizational development, intercultural/global learning, and campus-community partnerships. He serves on the leadership team for the NASPA Spirituality and Religion Knowledge Community and on the board of directors for Amizade, a fair trade learning nonprofit.

A Quote From This Episode

• "HigherLed is a learning network that creates the conditions for continuous improvement in the areas of leadership education and development (Led) in higher education to help create more and better Leaders for our society."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website - HigherLed
• Website - Doerr Institue
• Bog Post - Zone of Proximal Development
• Book - Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter
• Television Show - The Boys
• Television Show - The Bear
• Video - Thriller by Michael Jackson

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As Trove’s Chief Executive Officer, Amjed Saffarini guides the organization from both a growth and customer-centric perspective, building a nationally recognized, award-winning family office that focuses on exceptional outcomes and outstanding client service. As a board member and CEO, he leads a team of experts who serve as trusted advisors for our families and are helping to build, manage, and grow the company.

Amjed’s focus is to deliver a flawless and highly valued experience for our clients by ensuring excellence across all aspects of the company, including family office services, lifestyle management, business advisory, and tax services. By bringing new ideas, processes, and technologies to industries such as education, cybersecurity training, and now family office, Amjed has built a career transforming organizations and delivering successful outcomes.

With experience leading growth teams, companies, and serving on multiple boards, he knows the value of communication, coaching, and mentoring to deliver purposeful and successful companies. Amjed earned a Bachelor of Science in Cell Biology and Neuroscience from Rutgers University. He is a Board Leadership Fellow at the National Association of Corporate Directors.

A Quote From This Episode

• "You give them something really interesting to work on as a problem set, and then you keep making the problems harder and harder and harder...they're always seeking that next challenge. They're leveling up, and we've effectively gamified their work experience because of that. But, at the same time, they're working on projects that are not just gamified, but they're gamified and really interesting."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Peak by Ericsson & Pool
• Book - Comfort Crisis by Easter
• Concept - Zone of Proximal Development by Vygotsky

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Peter Moustakerski is CEO of Family Office Exchange (FOX), the premier resource for families managing private enterprises and family wealth across generations. For over 30 years, FOX has been recognized as the industry’s most exclusive, innovative, and influential community for peer networking and learning, and has provided independent insights, expert guidance, and practical solutions to complex problems related to family transitions and family wealth.​

Peter has spent more than 25 years as a C-level strategist and executive across a variety of industries, including wealth management, capital markets, and technology. He is a former family office executive and FOX member, management consultant, and entrepreneur. He has served as a strategy, innovation, and growth leader for a number of private and public companies and founded two start-ups in New York City and China.​

Prior to joining FOX, Peter served as Chief Operating Officer of the family office of the founder of Bridgewater Associates, where he worked closely with the principal family members to envision and oversee the redesign of the family office strategy and day-to-day operations to better serve the evolving needs of the family. Peter holds an MBA from Columbia Business School and a BS in Computer Science and Engineering from Zhejiang (Ger-Zian) University in China, and is proficient in Mandarin, Russian, and Bulgarian.​

Before that, Peter was a management consultant at Booz Allen Hamilton, advising many of the world’s top C-suite leaders, and a strategy executive at UBS, leading all growth and transformation initiatives for the bank’s wealth management organization.​

Most recently, Peter was Chief Strategy Officer of News America Marketing, a former News Corp. subsidiary, where he built and led the Corporate Strategy and M&A function and led the company’s successful carve-out and sale to a private equity sponsor. In addition, for more than 20 years, Peter has been a contributing writer and researcher with The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), and has led many qualitative and quantitative research projects, and written a number of influential white papers for the EIU, NBER, and other research institutions and media publications.​

Two Quotes From This Episode

• "At the end of the day, if you think about time as your most valuable asset, the ultimate capital, the ultimate equalizer for all of us is time, and complexity is the enemy of time. It just eats up time and other resources."
• “At FOX, we consider it a core value and a major part of our mission to help our members—and the entire industry—see around corners, especially when significant change is afoot.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - The Fourth Turning is Here by Howe
• Book - Principles for Dealing with The Changing World Order by Dalio
• Book - Thinking Fast and Slow by Kahneman

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Dr. Megan Reitz is Associate Fellow at Saïd Business School, Oxford University and Adjunct Professor of Leadership and Dialogue at Hult International Business School. She focuses on how we create the conditions for transformative dialogue at work and her research is at the intersection of leadership, change, dialogue and mindfulness. She is on the Thinkers50 ranking of global business thinkers and is ranked in HR Magazine’s Most Influential Thinkers listing.

Megan has written Dialogue in Organizations and Mind Time and she has just published Speak Out, Listen Upwhich is the second edition of her bestselling book Speak Up, with Financial Times Publishing. Speak Up was shortlisted for the CMI Management Book of the Year 2020.

Megan is a contributor to Harvard Business Review and MIT Sloan Management Review. She has presented her research on the BBC, CNBC and Deutsche Welle and she writes for numerous academic and practice-based journals. Her research on employee activism was nominated for the Thinkers50 Breakthrough Idea Award 2021 and her TED talk on the topic has been viewed more than one and a half million times.

Her latest research focuses on ‘spaciousness’; how, whilst attending to the task, we can also create, hold and value the space to innovate, reflect, learn and develop relationships, in workplaces that are increasingly experienced as instrumental and addicted to busyness.

She is mother to two wonderful teenage daughters who test her regularly on her powers of mindfulness and dialogue.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Many leaders and managers I work with are lovely...but they've got these titles and labels that mean that they're intimidating."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Megan's Website (Books, Articles, Podcasts and more!)
• Book - How to Do Nothing by Odell
• Book - Saving Time by Odell
• Guided Meditations by Tara Brach
• Guided Meditations by Michael Chaskalson

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Shaun Rozyn has almost two decades of global experience developing enterprise leaders across the globe. Shaun is currently a Managing Director at Duke Corporation Education, the corporate education arm of Duke University based in Durham, N. Carolina. Duke CE has been consistently ranked number one in the world for delivering customized executive education.

Shaun previously was a Managing of Custom Programs at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business. Before that, he was the Head of Global Executive Development at the Saudi Arabian Basic Industries Corporation (SABIC), overseeing the development of the top 1,000 executives, and Executive Director of Executive Education at the Gordon Institute of Business Science (GIBS) in South Africa. Before this, Shaun worked in the management consulting, defense, and higher education sectors.

Shaun is also on the Board of the University Consortium (UNICON), a leading membership organization of business schools globally. His academic credentials include a Master’s Degree in Economics from the University of Stellenbosch, an MBA from GIBS at the University of Pretoria, and executive education programs at Harvard Business School and IMD in Switzerland.

Shaun is deeply committed to empowering leaders to drive positive change in organizations and society.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Are we thinking about how to proactively develop management capabilities as people enter first-line and second-line management roles?"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Leadership Pipeline by Charan, Drotter, Noel, & Jonasen
• Book - The First 90 Days by Watkins
• TV Show - Beckham

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Mansour Javidan is a multiple award-winning and bestselling author and executive educator whose teaching and research interests span the globe, Thunderbird School of Global Management at Arizona State University received his MBA and Ph.D. degrees from the Carlson School at the University of Minnesota. He is the Garvin Distinguished Professor and Executive Director of Najafi Global Mindset Institute at Thunderbird School of Global Management at Arizona State University.

Mansour is currently the Project Director and Principal Co-Investigator of GLOBE 2020, working with a team of 426 researchers studying culture change, leadership ideals, and trust dynamics. The project has received close to $1.5 million in funding and has completed data collection from over 60000 managers and professionals in 144 countries.

He has designed and taught executive development courses and workshops, conducted consulting projects, and made presentations in over 40 countries. Published in the best journals.

Mansour’s article on global leadership recently received the Decade’s Best Paper Award (2006- 2016) by the Academy of Management Perspectives. Dr. Javidan has been recognized by Stanford University as among the top 2% most cited scientists in the field of business and management in the world in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. He was also recently recognized as among the top 100 most influential (i.e., top 0.6%) authors in Organization Behavior in the world. Mansour was awarded the 2023 Lifetime Achievement Award by the International Leadership Association.

He has designed and taught executive development courses and workshops, conducted consulting projects, and made presentations in over 40 countries. His publications have appeared in such journals as Harvard Business Review, Journal of International Business Studies, Organization Science, Strategic Management Journal, Academy of Management Perspectives, and Leadership Quarterly.

A Quote From This Episode

• "One of the implications of living in such a diversity-rich environment is curiosity. Curiosity about how people do things? Why do they do things differently? This curiosity about how and why has been with me; it is in my genes."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Developing Your Global Mindset: The Handbook for Successful Global Leaders by Javidan
• Book: Strategic Leadership Across Cultures: The GLOBE Study of CEO Leadership Behavior and Effectiveness in 24 Countries by Javidan
• Website: Globe Project
• Mansour Javidan - Google Scholar

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Kate Bennis is a professional actor and clinical social worker who draws from the skills and techniques of the theater, therapeutic training, and years of experience, to give her clients everything they need to communicate as their fullest, most perfectly imperfect selves.

Kate’s Presentation and Communication practice is grounded in practicing the skills that give the speaker freedom, agility, creativity, humor, ease, presence, and the ability to connect with their audience.

This work helps clients to bring their most authentic selves to everything from wedding toasts to TED Talks, from political debates to flirting!

A professional actor with over 40 years’ experience in TV, film and stage, Kate has coached senior and mid-level leaders at American Express, AOL, Deloitte and Touche, Apex Clean Energy, the Southern Environmental Law Center, the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve Bank and the CIA; Harvard Business School Executive Education, Columbia University Executive Education, Darden Business School Executive Education, UVa’s McIntire School of Commerce, and University College London. As the Lead Coach for the Charlottesville TEDx Kate has coached dozens of speakers and overseen the coaching for over 80 TED Talks. While with The Ariel Group Kate delivered trainings around the world, developed training curricula, and served as Director of Outreach.

A licensed clinical social worker, Kate has worked with children and adults in a private practice as well as schools and prisons.

She holds a BA in theater from Wesleyan University, an MSW from Smith College School for Social Work, and lives in Charlottesville with her husband and their two children.

A Quote From This Episode

• "There was something about just listening and being heard that was so transformative, and that's my first example of my dad as a leader. He was a listener. He listened deeply to every single person without defensiveness and without a preconceived idea. He just was a deep listener."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver
• Kate on Linkedin
• Kate on Youtube

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dave Ulrich is the Rensis Likert Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan, and a partner at the RBL Group, a consulting firm focused on helping organizations and leaders deliver value. He has published over 200 articles and book chapters and over 30 books. He edited Human Resource Management 1990-1999, served on editorial board of 4 other journals and on the Board of Directors for Herman Miller (16 years), has spoken to large audiences in 90 countries; performed workshops for over half of the Fortune 200; coached successful business leaders, and is a Distinguished Fellow in the National Academy of Human Resources. He is known for continually learning, turning complex ideas into simple solutions, and creating real value for those he works with as he defines human capability as the next agenda for people and organizations.

With colleagues, he has articulated the basics of effective leadership (Leadership Code and Results Based Leadership), connected leadership with customers (Leadership Brand), shown how leadership delivers market value (Why the Bottom Line Isn’t), shapes investor expectations with an ability to measure leadership (Leadership Capital Index), and synthesized ways to ensure that leadership aspirations turn into actions (Leadership Sustainability).He and his colleagues have shaped the HR profession and he has been called the “father of modern HR” and “HR thought leader of the decade” by focusing on HR outcomes, governance, competencies, and practices (HR Champions; HR Value Added; HR Transformation; HR Competencies; HR Outside In). He spearheaded a “gift” book on the future of HR (The Rise of HR) distributed to over 1,500,000 HR professionals), in which 70 thought leaders freely shared their insights.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I love ideas. I love ideas with impact and enjoy exploring ideas with fresh people. That's my passion."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Leadership Code 4.0: An Evidence-Based View of Effective Leadership
• LinkedIn Newsletter

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• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Register for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.
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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Founder, CEO, and president of EDWINS Leadership & Restaurant Institute Brandon Edwin Chrostowski is renowned for changing culinary and hospitality training—in and out of the nation’s prisons—while preserving French cooking traditions. His mission-driven effort to train and staff former prison inmates at his flagship French restaurant and nonprofit has created a national model for re-entry and an educational pipeline for formerly incarcerated to learn the discipline and skill of fine dining.

Under Chrostowski’s leadership, the EDWINS program boasts an extraordinary one percent recidivism rate, a testament to the efficacy of its approach. More than a CEO, Chrostowski is a catalyst for change, providing over one hundred formerly incarcerated adults with free culinary and hospitality arts training each year. Since its inception in 2007, the program has evolved into a multifaceted initiative, including Edwins Too—a culinary incubator and community kitchen; EDWINS Butcher Shop and Bakery and Diner; a Second Chance Life Skills Center with housing and wraparound services; EDWINS Family Center, a nonprofit offering free daycare to Institute students during class hours; on-site programs at Grafton Correctional Institute and Cuyahoga County Juvenile Detention Center; and a groundbreaking virtual curriculum reaching over 400,000 inmates in prisons across the country.

A culinary virtuoso, Chrostowski’s journey began with classical training as a chef and sommelier. He honed his skills at distinguished fine dining establishments in Paris, New York, and Chicago, including Lucas Carton, Chanterelle, Picholine, Le Cirque, and Charlie Trotter’s. His culinary prowess has been celebrated with numerous accolades, including being a 2022 James Beard Award Semifinalist and a 2023 James Beard Finalist. Recognition also extends to the 2023 Jim Brown Changemaker Award, IFMA’s 2020 Silver Plate, CNN’s 2016 Heroes, and the prestigious Crain’s “40 under 40” Awards.

A proud alum of CIA, Chrostowski holds an associate degree in culinary arts and a bachelor’s degree in business and Restaurant Management. He resides in Cleveland with his wife Catana and their children, Leo, Lilly, Lynx, and Lander.

A Quote From This Episode

• "It's not like you come into a kitchen, and they say, 'Listen, this is how you're going to figure it out,' they just give you a task and you gotta figure it out."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Film: Knife Skills
• TV: CBS This Morning
• CNN Hero

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Christina Helena is a speaker, playwright/performer, and founder of My Scar is Sexy, based in New York City. As one of the youngest pancreatic cancer survivors with a thirteen-inch scar across her abdomen, she is redefining the stigma behind trauma and pain with one simple thought: “Your scar is the sexiest thing about you.” Most recently, Goalcast featured Christina’s talk, “My Scar is Sexy,” on mental health, and overcoming adversity received over 10 million views.

Her story is currently in development as an off-Broadway, autobiographical solo show entitled SCARdirected by the award-winning director Larry Moss. Her TEDx talk, “Dear Unresolved Soul, It’s Not Death You Fear, It’s Life,” is about facing mortality and how death is the greatest catalyst to discovering the authentic self.

A Quote From This Episode

• "It took me many years of just asking myself, 'Why did you have that thought?' Then, again, 'Why did you have that thought?' And then, 'Why did you have that answer, and why that thought?'"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Christina's Website
• Christina's TEDx Talk
• My Scar is Sexy Talk
• Goalcast
• Other resources/people mentioned in this episode are linked to in the episode transcript.

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Colonel Matt Horner, Ph.D., is the Director of Staff of the Dean of Faculty and was recently nominated for the role of Permanent Professor for Character and Leadership Development at USAFA. He has served in multiple administrative and instructor roles in the Directorate of Athletics and is an Assistant Professor of Management, teaching courses on organizational dynamics and leadership. He is a graduate of the United States Air Force Academy and served as a mobility pilot on active duty. He received his doctorate in sport management from Florida State University.

Lt Col Matt Orlowsky, Ph.D. is an Assistant Professor of Management and teaches courses on organizational dynamics and leadership. He is a graduate of USAFA and served as a force support officer on active duty. As a human resource professional, he has held responsibilities at tactical, operational, and strategic levels and has held assignments all over the globe, including the United States, Korea, Germany, Iraq, and Qatar. His doctorate is from the University of Denver, and he explored how leaders translate experiences into insights.

Daphne DePorres, Ed.D., is an assistant professor at the United States Air Force Academy (USAFA), where she teaches organizational behavior and organizational development, as well as a management consulting capstone course. In addition, she has over thirty years of experience in Organization Development and Change. Before her academic career, she spent nearly a decade consulting with large and small, for-profit and not-for-profit organizations, working with them as they developed strategies, pursued organizational goals, analyzed and changed their cultures, and developed effective teams.

Dr. Dave Levy is a Professor of Management at USAFA and teaches courses on leadership, power, organization development, and change. He is a USAFA graduate and served as a security forces officer on active duty. After leaving the military, he worked as an organizational change consultant for Grant-Thornton and KPMG. He received his doctorate in organizational behavior from Cornell University and is the author of several books, including The 52nd Floor: Thinking Deeply About Leadership, Attitudes Aren’t Free: Thinking Deeply About Diversity in the US Armed Forces, Echoes of Mind: Thinking Deeply About Humanship, Evolution of Government Policy Towards Homosexuality in the US Military, and The Line: A Very Short, Short Story.A Quote From This Episode

• "Every interaction is an opportunity to go ahead and fulfill the needs of agency, efficacy, and belonging."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Lens X: A Practical Approach to Taking Care of Your People
• Links to other resources in the transcript

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Dr. Stoller is Chairman of the Education Institute at Cleveland Clinic. He holds the Jean Wall Bennett Professorship of Medicine at Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine and the Samson Global Leadership Academy Endowed Chair. He is a pulmonary/critical care physician in the Cleveland Clinic Integrated Hospital Institute. He serves as the Senior Associate Dean for Academic Affairs (Cleveland Clinic) in the Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine.

In 1979, Dr. Stoller earned a medical degree from Yale University School of Medicine and later completed an internship and residency at Peter Bent Brigham Hospital in Boston. He then completed fellowships in pulmonary/critical medicine (Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Yale), clinical epidemiology (Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholars Program at Yale), and respiratory intensive care (Respiratory Intensive Care Unit of the Massachusetts General Hospital) before joining the Respiratory Institute Staff at Cleveland Clinic in 1986.

Dr. MinhTri Nguyen recently graduated from Cleveland Clinic’s Hematology and Oncology Fellowship program. He has had leadership experiences as the Associate Director of Outpatient Services at Metrohealth’s Internal Medicine Department, Chief Resident, and President of the House Officer’s Association at MetroHealth. This year, he was named one of Northeast Ohio’s Top 25 Under 35 Movers and Shaker’s Award.

MinhTri has a longstanding interest in emotional intelligence and leadership, with ongoing research in both subject matters related to physician training. He is a certified coach, currently coaching resident physicians and clinical leaders. In the fall, he will be joining Stanford Health Care, where he will practice Hematology/Oncology with University Medical Partners while continuing his academic interests in leadership development for physicians.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I think the practice of leadership, like medicine (both fields in their own right), is continuous. I think that to be a good practitioner of medicine, you need to not only be in tune with the practice but also practice medicine. So, the same thing applies to leadership; I think you need to be in tune with the field of leadership and practice leadership."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Coursera Course - Andrew Ng on Artificial Intelligence
• Article - The Moral Bucket List by Brooks
• Book - Better Humans, Better Performance by Rae, Stoller, & Kolp
• Books - Hidden Potential and Give and Take by Grant
• Book - The Art of the Impossible by Kotler
• Commencement Address - Don Berwick, Yale Medical School
• Commencement Address - Ken Burns, Brandeis University

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Since 2005, Amy Elizabeth Fox has served as one of the founders and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For the last twenty years, she has been a leadership and culture change advisor to eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies and facilitated immersive executive development programs for senior leaders.

Mobius offers top team intervention, business mediation, executive coaching, and personal mastery programs aimed at unlocking potential and building deeper trust, intimacy, and connection within a company’s top tier. Mobius also sponsors a professional development arm for maturing transformational practitioners called The Next Practice Institute and has an e-learning arm entitled Mobius Touch.

Since 2013, Mobius has partnered with the premier leadership advisory firm, Egon Zehnder, to offer sessions for leaders worldwide. Amy is the lead faculty for the quarterly Discovery program offered jointly to N-1 leaders. Further, she has guided programs for long-standing clients while overseeing the evolution and expansion of Mobius.

Amy is considered an expert in healing individual, family, and collective trauma and has been a pioneer in introducing trauma-informed development and psycho-spiritual principles into leadership programs. In addition to her work with Mobius, Amy is a senior student of mystical teacher Thomas Huebl, serving as part of his online faculty team and lead faculty for his two-year Timeless Wisdom Training. Amy and Thomas are guiding a first-of-its-kind year-long certification in Trauma Informed Consulting and Coaching. Amy is also on the African Leadership Institute's Desmond Tutu Fellows program faculty at Oxford.

Before starting Mobius, Amy worked as a trainer for Vantage Partners, as a senior executive in Wellspace, and as the Dir. of Public Affairs for the Cathedral of St John the Divine, where she supported Paul Gorman, Carl Sagan, and Al Gore in a decade long effort to engage the American faith communities in responding to climate change and environmental degradation.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Leaders have to be intentional about the self-care practices that may have been neglected in the past but are now critical to being in performance-ready shape to lead others.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Learning Event: The Next Practice Institute
• Book: Winning From Within by Fox
• Television Show: Bridgerton

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Dr. Jonathan W. White is professor of American Studies at Christopher Newport University. He is the author or editor of 17 books covering various topics, including civil liberties during the Civil War, the USS Monitor and the Battle of Hampton Roads, the presidential election of 1864, and what Abraham Lincoln and soldiers dreamt about.

Among his awards are the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia’s Outstanding Faculty Award (2019), CNU’s Alumni Society Award for Teaching and Mentoring (2016), the Abraham Lincoln Institute Book Prize (2015), and the University of Maryland Alumni Excellence Award in Research (2024).

His recent books include A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House (2022), which was co-winner of the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize (with Jon Meacham); Shipwrecked: A True Civil War Story of Mutinies, Jailbreaks, Blockade-Running, and the Slave Trade (2023); Final Resting Places: Reflections on the Meaning of Civil War Graves (2023); and an exciting new children’s book, My Day with Abe Lincoln (2024).

A Quote From This Episode

• "I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views." - Abraham Lincoln

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Your New Playlist by Acuff, Acuff, & Acuff
• Phronesis Episode with Dr. Laura Empson

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Nadia Taranczewski holds aMaster of Psychology, Master Certified Coach, executive coach, keynote speaker, and author of Conscious You: Become the Hero of Your Own Story. She has worked as a coach and organizational developer since 2001.

Her company, ConsciousU, makes culture change scalable through its blended learning online-based coaching programs. By combining individual consciousness development and social learning in groups and teams, they support organizations in reinventing themselves as Conscious Tribe.

She is a curious and voracious learner and has studied with some of the best coaches and experts worldwide. Nadja lives in Berlin, Germany, with her wife, loves to travel the world by home-exchanging, and is currently working on her forthcoming book, The Conscious Tribe Playbook.

For more than a decade, Valerie Livesay, Ph.D. has been thinking about and inquiring into the phenomenon of fallback­­––when, despite our optimal developmental capacities, what we often refer to as our developmental center-of-gravity—we make meaning, feel, and act from a smaller, less complex, less capable form of mind.

As Chief Illuminator at Ghost Light Leadership, Valerie accompanies individuals through their discovery of self, using the analogy of theater to set the stage for their historical and unfolding story. Through her writing, speaking, coaching, and workshop offerings, Valerie invites the many characters that comprise the full ensemble of one’s self to dance together to better meet their intentions. She is the author of Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You in which she reveals both the despair and ecstasy that accompany a knowing of the fullness of one’s allowing the reader to find the fullness of themselves in the journey of development and the experience of being human.

A Quote From Nadia's Website

• "A Conscious Tribe is a thriving organization whose members engage in inner work, see the big picture, nurture deep relationships, and practice conscious rituals."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The New Comedy Bible by Carter
• Book: Venomous Lumpsucker by Beauman
• Podcast: The Rest is History

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Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences all over the world including in Beijing, Toronto, Moscow, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Munich, Seoul, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Berlin, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Kyoto, and Sydney. She received the Wilbur M. McFeeley award from the National Management Association for her pioneering work on leadership and followership, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Quote From Kellerman

• "Bad leadership is a disease. It’s not a physical disease. It’s a social disease no less invasive or destructive than its physical counterpart. Unless and until we recognize the parallel, bad leadership will remain incurable, impossible to root out in the future any more than in the past. Sad. No, tragic."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website: Barbara Kellerman
• Blog Post: Leadership Gender Gap: Redux

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Dr. Alis Anagnostakis is a group facilitator, coach, and adult development researcher walking the fine line between the study and the practice of leadership development and human transformation. Over the past 15 years, her work has focused on designing and implementing learning journeys that help foster leaders’ maturity and practical wisdom. She is also an ICF-accredited coach and coaching educator, training and mentoring professional coaches inside and outside organizations.

Alis' research centers on leaders’ consciousness transformation as they navigate long-form executive programs. As the founder of the Vertical Development Institute (VDI), Alis aspires to create a meeting place for the various schools of thought in the field. In working with leaders, teams, and organizations internationally, she hopes to make the practices of adult development ever more accessible at a time when mature leadership seems more needed than ever. She curates existing research on adult development and hosts a podcast as well!

Dr. Valerie Livesay explores the phenomenon of fallback­­––when, despite our optimal developmental capacities, what we often refer to as our developmental center-of-gravity—we make meaning, feel, and act from a smaller, less complex, less capable form of mind.

As Chief Illuminator at Ghost Light Leadership, Valerie accompanies individuals through their discovery of self, using the analogy of theater to set the stage for their historical and unfolding story. Through her writing, speaking, coaching, and workshop offerings, Valerie invites the many characters that comprise the full ensemble of one’s self to dance together to better meet their intentions. She is the author of Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You .

A Quote From The Episode

• "I deeply believe that I'm a learner alongside the people I support in my facilitation, and I'm very straightforward and open about that. I'm not there to teach anybody anything - I'm there to facilitate the process of harnessing the collective wisdom in the room."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Sand Talk by Yunkaporta
• Book: The Amen Effect by Brous
• Book: Corruptable by Klass

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Nadir Zafar is a Singaporean national who holds several leadership roles.He is the Director of the Singapore Leaders Network (SGLN), where he leads a national movement to prepare Singaporeans for global leadership roles. SGLN is funded by the Singapore Economic Development Board (EDB) and managed by the Human Capital Leadership Institute (HCLI).

At HCLI, Dr. Zafar is the Chief Experience Officer (CXO), responsible for leading the client engagement, strategic marketing, and alumni relations teams. HCLI is a Temasek owned leadership institute backed by the EDB and Ministry of Manpower. Dr. Zafar has a Doctor of Education in Leadership and Innovation from the NYU Steinhardt School of Culture, Education, & Human Development, an MBA from global business school INSEAD, and a Bachelor of Business Management from the pioneer cohort at the Singapore Management University.

Dr. Michael Yap is a dynamic and forward-thinking higher education leader known for his strategic prowess and ability to foster impactful collaborations. As the Regional Managing Director for Coventry University Singapore Hub, he assumes the esteemed role of the university's most senior representative within the Asian region.

Michael's impact within Coventry University Singapore Hub is profound. He has orchestrated the development of numerous strategic partnerships with regional higher education institutions, cutting-edge research centres, and dynamic commercial entities. He elevated the university's brand recognition through strategic insight and fostered robust relationships with influential governmental stakeholders from the UK and local jurisdictions.

With a deep-seated understanding of Asian and UK education landscapes, Michael is adept at navigating complexities and building bridges between cultures. His extensive travels across Asia have honed his cross-cultural competencies, enabling him to drive meaningful change through effective global engagement.

A Quote From The Episode

• "In Singapore, we are blessed to have a mix of Western and Eastern influences in the workplace. While we carry the Eastern values, we also have the Western pragmatism when it comes to doing business, and that puts us at an advantage when it comes to the global stage."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Organization - Human Capital Leadership Institute
• Organization - Coventry University Singapore
• Video - Lee Kaun Yew: In His Own Words

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Keith Grint has been Professor Emeritus at Warwick University since 2018. He spent 10 years working in various positions across a number of industry sectors before switching to an academic career. His first undergraduate degree (Sociology) was from the Open University in 1981, and his second (Politics) from the University of York in 1982. He received his doctorate from the University of Oxford in 1986. He was a Jr. Research Fellow at Nuffield College, Oxford University, between 1985 and 1986 and a Research Fellow there from 1986 to 1987.

Between 1986 and 1992, he was a Lecturer in Sociology at Brunel University, and between 1992 and 1998, a Fellow at Templeton College, then a University Lecturer in Organizational Behaviour at the School of Management (now Saïd Business School), Oxford University. Between 1998 and 2004, he was University Reader in Organizational Behaviour at the Saïd Business School and Director of Research there between 2002 and 2003. From 2004 to 2006, he was a professor of leadership studies and director of the Lancaster Leadership Centre, Lancaster University School of Management. Between 2006 and 2008, he was a Professor of Defence Leadership and Deputy Principal at Shrivenham Campus, Cranfield University. He was a Professor of Public Leadership at Warwick Business School from 2009 to 2018.

He is a Fellow of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and a Professorial Fellow of the Australian Institute of Police Management (AIPM). He is also a founding co-editor with David Collinson of the journal Leadership, and co-founder of the International Studying Leadership Conference. He was elected a Fellow of the Academy of Social Sciences in 2012 and was awarded an Honorary Doctorate of Science at Warwick University in 2013. He received the Chief Constable’s Commendation for Contribution to Police Leadership in 2018 and a Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association in 2018.

A Quote From The Book

• "Just because the situation looks bleak for those suffering from oppression does not mean they surrendered meekly."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - A Cartography of Resistance: Leadership, Management, and Command by Grint
• Keith Grint on Amazon
• Keith Grint on Google Scholar
• TV Show - Shogun

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Angelica Larios, PMP is a business and project manager with more than 20 years of experience in implementing software projects related to business intelligence, planning, and consolidation of financial solutions based in software applications to support the business decision process. She is the founder and CEO of ALACONTEC, an IT consulting company founded in Latin America. She has held several professional positions in private and public organizations, such as the Health Ministry in Mexico as IT director, and as a business manager for several firms in Mexico.

She holds a master’s degree in business administration and a bachelor’s degree in computer science from National University of Mexico (UNAM) in addition to her studies in project management and her Project Management Professional (PMP)® certification, which have helped her to consolidate her career and have a better understanding on what businesses and projects need nowadays. She was the first female president of the PMI Mexico Chapter. She is a doctor in strategic leadership at Regent University, VA, and currently serves on the Ethics Member Advisory Group (EMAG) that supports the PMI global operations (2019–2021). She has held other global volunteer positions, such as BVAC (2016-2018) and CMAG (2013-2014).

She is the author of several published articles related to leadership and project management published in Project Management, PM World Journal, and Grebennikno Russia. Angélica has been elected as a member of the board of directors (BOD) for ILA (International Leadership Association) (2021-2024).

A Quote From This Episode

• "The highest mission I aspire to achieve is to inspire women."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website: Angelica's Website
• Book: The Female Transformational Leadership A Pygmalion Effect: Believe In Yourself And Believe In Others by Larios
• Podcast: The Coming Wave by Suleyman

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Professor Laura Empson

Laura is Professor in the Management of Professional Service Firms at Bayes Business School, University of London, and holds Research Fellowships at both Harvard Law School and the University of Cambridge.

She has dedicated 30 years to researching professionals, professionals, and the professions, and is a globally recognised expert in their leadership and governance. Her research also explores organisational and cultural change; growth and leadership transitions; mergers and acquisitions; professional careers; and the future of professional work.

Her research has been funded by prestigious awards from the EU and UK governments. She has been nominated for The Thinkers 50 Leadership Award for her research on collective leadership.

In addition to dozens of publications in leading academic journals, she has published several books with Oxford University Press – her first was Managing the Modern Law Firm(2007),andher latest is Leading Professionals: Power, Politics, and Prima Donnas (reprinted in paperback, 2022).

Laura serves on the editorial board of Organization Studies and the Journal of Management Studies. She is a founder member of the Strategic Advisory Board of the Society for the Advancement of Management Studies (SAMS) and a member of the Peer Review College of the ESRC.

She advises many of the world’s leading law, accounting, and consulting firms. From 2013 to 2016, she served on the Board of KPMG LLP (becoming Chair of the Independent Non-Executives).

Laura was previously an Associate Professor at the University of Oxford. Before becoming an academic, Laura worked as an investment banker and strategy consultant. She has a PhD and MBA from London Business School.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I use the phrase ‘intellectual junk food.’ I think that a lot of leaders are raised on a diet of intellectual junk food because that is what’s saleable...By contrast, some of our academic world is so mired in ambiguity and subtlety that it never even gets itself published...we need the balance. "

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Podcast: Leading Professional People
• Laura's Articles
  • HBR - Ways to Prepare for the Future of Work
  • HBR - How Has the Past Year Changed You and Your Organization?
  • HBR - How to Lead Your Fellow Rainmakers

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help

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Dr. Kathy Allen specializes in leadership coaching and organizational change in non-profit organizations, foundations, small to mid-sized businesses, community development, higher educational institutions, and collaborative networks.

Dr. Allen has written and presented widely on topics of leadership, human development, and organizational development. She is a skilled facilitator of organizational change and organizational development. The earmarks of her work are the creation of shared ownership of the results of a change project, long-term sustainable change for the organization, and increased capacity for the staff members and leaders in those organizations.

Kathy's most recent book is Leading from the Roots: Nature Inspired Leadership Lessons for Today’s World. This book firmly anchors leadership in the soil of nature. It’s a foundational leadership framework that challenges our 20th-century views that leadership concepts can be universally applied to all contexts.

Rian Satterwhite serves as Director of the Office of Service Learning & Leadership at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, and teaching faculty at Claremont Lincoln University. A long-time member of the ILA, he serves on the Steering Committee for the ILA Sustainability Leadership Member Community and the ILA Committee for the Advancement of Leadership Programs. He is an active member of The Research University Community Engagement Network (a part of Campus Compact), and serves as a recommended consultant for the Carnegie Elective Classification in Community Engagement and a reviewer for the Elective Classification in Leadership for Public Purpose. Most importantly, he is a father of two and enjoys hiking, travel, and photography.

A Quote From This Episode

• "We gotta elder up here..."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Ryan's list of resources (See episode transcript)
• Website: Kathy Allen
• Book: Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Newport
• Television Show: Shogun
• Organization: One Planet Leadership

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Steve Kempster is an Emeritus Professor of Leadership Learning and Development at Lancaster University Management School and is an Associate Partner of the Regenerative Alliance. He has published broadly on leadership learning, leadership of purpose, and responsible leadership with five books and many articles and chapters. Steve leads the Good Dividends project (www.gooddividends.com) – formed from an interdisciplinary group of academics drawn from 5 universities in Europe and Australasia – to enable business leaders to develop their business models towards becoming regenerative and realising good growth.

His latest book is ‘Good Dividends: Responsible Leadership of Business Purpose’. Recently, Steve has been the director of the Lancaster University Made Smarter and Evolve Digital programmes, which link digitalisation with regenerative outcomes and are funded by the UK government. He is currently co-director of Lancaster University's ‘Good Growth’ Programme, which is focused on reframing growth towards regenerative outcomes and building towards a well-being economy.

A Quote From This Episode

• "What we require is evidence...where is the evidence base? How is this all coming together? How can we see the difference from this leadership that's been pursued - regenerative leadership."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Organization - B for Good Leaders
• Podcast - The Rest is Politics
• Podcast - The Daily Doug
• Book: Radical Hope by Lear
• Book: How Democracies Die by Levitsky and Ziblatt
• Book: How Civil Wars Start by Walter

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Les Sylven has been a police officer in Canada for over 30 years, serving with three different police organizations in a wide variety of roles, from a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer in a rural community to a municipal Police Chief. During his policing career, he was actively involved in numerous public safety initiatives for which he was recognized by the Governor General of Canada, receiving the Order of Merit of the Police Forces in 2020.

He is a life member of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and an active member of the International Leadership Association.

A Quote From This Episode

• "For me, your breath is with you all the time."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Dissertation: Mindful of Authority: Exploring the Practice of Meditation, Mindfulness, and Leadership with Commissioned Canadian Police Officers
• Organization: Cascade Institute
• Book: Strength in Stillness by Bob Roth

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Brian Fishel has more than 30+ years of strategic Human Resources and business experience across multiple industries. He has successfully provided thought leadership and advice to CEOs and C-Suite executives on various strategic business decisions and human capital matters. Brian has extensive experience leading numerous CEO and C-suite successions and transitions, coaching and developing high-potential leaders, and leading merger-acquisition integration and culture alignment. Brian is skilled at working with Executive teams and a company’s Board of Directors.

Brian served as KeyBank’s (a top 15 bank in the United States) Chief Human Resources Officer from 2018-2024. He also served as Key’s Chief Talent Officer from 2013-2018, leading enterprise talent management, leadership development, recruiting, and training. Before joining KeyBank, Brian spent 15 years at Bank of America in various senior talent management roles, including the Global Head of Executive and High Potential Development. Before Bank of America, Brian held various global senior-level Human Resources roles with The Coca-Cola Company and Pizza Hut, at the time, a subsidiary of PepsiCo.

Brian currently serves on the Board of Trustees at St. Edwards High School in Cleveland, Ohio, where he is a member of the Strategic Initiatives Committee. In 2015, Brian won the prestigious Talent Management Executive of the Year Award from Crains Business Magazine of Cleveland, and in 2020, he was named to the Top CHRO list by N2Growth.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Individuals earlier in their career begin to emerge and differentiate themselves from others by excelling at delivering results, taking on and succeeding in new and different challenges, and collaborating and working well with others."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Leadership Pipeline by Charan & Drotter
• Book: The Tao of Backup Catcher by Brown and Kratz
• Book: Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins
• Article: Muscle Build the Organization by Pearson
• Article: Eighty-Eight Assignment for Developing in Place by Lombardo and Elchinger

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Marianne Roux has 30 years of global experience as an HR Executive, Future of Work Strategist, and Professor of Leadership. She holds a Master's degree in HR and Organisational Psychology and is completing her Ph.D. in Leadership in the Future of Work context. She runs Roux Consulting, a global niche consulting firm based in Dublin, Ireland, and regularly teaches at Business Schools worldwide.

She has worked for PWC, Accenture, Deloitte, and Mercer and held two HR Director roles in two countries—Woolworths Food South Africa and Cricket Australia. Her experience spans several industries, and she focuses mainly on the Future of Work Strategy, Leadership Development, Organisation Redesign, and HR transformation.

She has recently published a book on Adaptive HR and a Personal Agility reflection journal, Knowing Your Superpowers is the Key to Your Success in a Changing World,and she is featured in Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I was really frustrated...every leader I worked with had pretty much gotten an MBA, had one or two coaches, done several executive development plans, and was still woefully inadequate as a leader."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leadership Fit For The Future Of Work by Roux
• Book: The Right Kind of Wrong by Edmonson

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Eric Svaren coaches executives, as well as senior and emerging leaders, in business, tech, health care, research, higher education, government, associations, and NGOs. He is also an organization development (OD) consultant, serving local, national, and international clients.

He teaches Leadership in Action for the Daniel J. Evans School of Public Policy and Governance at the University of Washington. Eric is also a developmental leadership coach for Global Leadership Associates in the United Kingdom.

With students and clients, he focuses on the practical application of theories and models to pressing leadership, organizational, and societal problems. He draws on research and writing on adult development theory, adaptive leadership, team dynamics, culture, equity, engagement, adult learning, and polarity management.

Eric served in internal roles supporting clinical operations in a national cancer center, staffing a Seattle city council member, and running a joint labor-management program.

He earned his Master’s degree in sociology at UW, with concentrations in social psychology and organizational sociology. He also holds certifications in many coaching and OD methods and instruments.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Leadership is all around us, but most of the time, we're not recognizing it. And that leadership is usually "Little L" leadership. It's not broadcast, it's not announced, and it doesn't have a marquee like a movie theater; it’s something that is happening very subtly, and it takes a trained eye to notice it. And one of the things I'd like to leave my students with is that trained eye."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Infographic: Technical Problems vs. Adaptive Challenges by Svaren
• Article: The Principles of little 'L' leadership by Svaren
• Books: The Wager, Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann
• Book: The Secret Hours by Mick Herron

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Amiel Handelsman is a seasoned executive coach with 20+ years of experience helping leaders and teams navigate complexity. His clients have included college presidents, C-level business executives, and teams at every level. He is passionate about climate solutions and specializes in helping people deliver what they promise and build highly engaged workforces. Amiel is the author of four books, including Practice Greatness and the free e-books Reimagining American Identity and How To Be An Anti-race Antiracist, and is a frequent guest on podcasts. He holds a B.A. in Public Policy Studies from Duke University and an MBA from the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. Amiel lives with his wife and two children in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Emotion is like the weather, which changes frequently, and mood is like the climate."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Amiel's Podcast - How My View Grew

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a business consultant, coach and international speaker, who currently serves part-time as the Sr. Advisor, EDI Initiatives and Adjunct Lecturer at Queen’s University. Her memoir, Can You Hear Me Now? was published in 2021. Her leadership development app, MaximizingU, is available on Google Play and the App Store.

Celina was the former Member of Parliament for Whitby, Parliamentary Secretary to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and Parliamentary Secretary for International Development. During her term as a Member of Parliament, Celina was awarded several distinctions, including a feature in the April 2018 edition of O (Oprah Winfrey) Magazine entitled, “What would you stand up for?”

She has a Bachelor of Science, an MBA in Healthcare Management, and an Executive MBA from the Rotman School of Management. She is currently enrolled in a neuroscience PhD program at Queen’s University, exploring the intersection of empathy, leadership, and equity. Celina is also a [Deepak] Chopra Certified Health and Meditation Instructor and bases much of her work on Ayurvedic principles, self-awareness, and development.

Before politics, Celina founded Resolve Research Solutions, Inc. This research management consulting firm provides research, consulting, and education services to organizations seeking equity and advancing progress for those with multiple intersecting identities.

A Quote From This Episode

• "This is the story of me falling in love with, at last with, who I am and finding my voice in the unlikeliest of places."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Can You Hear Me Now? by Celina Caesar-Chavannes
• Book: The Conversation by Robert Livingston
• Author: Isabella Wilkerson
• Author: Bell Hooks
• Author: Michel Foucault

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Roy Tuscany is originally from Waterbury, VT, and after graduating from the University of Vermont with a Mechanical Engineering degree, he headed west to pursue the dream of being a professional free-skier. In 2006, Roy suffered a life-changing injury that left him paralyzed from the waist down and was the catalyst for the creation of High Fives. Roy turned the financial and community support of his recovery into a ‘pay-it-forward’ adventure with the creation of the High Fives Foundation. He was named the “Spirit Inspires” award from Disabled Sports USA in 2011 and once held the World Record for the most high fives in 24 hours. He lives in Reno, NV, with his partner Alana Nichols and son Gunnar. He enjoys finding fun in everything he does - biking, skiing, surfing, and everything outdoors.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Post-traumatic growth is a rare phenomenon that individuals, after sustaining a life-changing injury, not only change to the way they physically move, but also their path of life."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Movie: Full Circle Documentary on Netflix (It's Awesome)
• Video: Good by Jocko Willink
• Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian Weiss
• The Myth of Normal by Gabor Mate
• Discipline is Destiny by Ryan Holiday
• Green Lights by Matthew McCuahneMatthew McConaughey
• Mindset by Carol Dweck
• Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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George A. Papandreou is the former Prime Minister of Greece (2009-2011) and is currently a Member of Parliament with the Panhellenic Socialist Movement/Movement of Change. As an MP, he represents the Hellenic Parliament in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and has led over the years the work of several Committees in producing recommendations for the deepening of democracy, human rights, and the rule of law across its 47 member-states.

During his premiership, he applied a series of structural reforms in his attempt to modernize his country whilst avoiding bankruptcy during Greece’s 2010 debt crisis. For his achievements related to government Transparency, he received the Quadriga Award in the category “Power of Veracity.. In 2010, he was named one of the Foreign Policy magazine’s TOP 100 Global Thinkers. In 2017, he was honored with the International Leadership Association (ILA) Distinguished Leadership Award.

Dr. Ron Heifetz is among the world’s foremost authorities on the practice and teaching of leadership. He speaks extensively and advises heads of governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations across the globe. Heifetz founded the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School where he has taught for nearly four decades. He is the King Hussein bin Talal Senior Lecturer in Public Leadership. His research addresses two challenges: developing a conceptual foundation for the analysis and practice of leadership; and developing transformative methods for leadership education, training, and consultation.

Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.

A Quote From This Episode

• "There has to be a sense of justice. If you don't have that, you will get a sense of injustice, which then will be used by demagogues. Demagogues will polarize. Polarization will bring chaos, and chaos will bring tyranny."

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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George A. Papandreou is the former Prime Minister of Greece (2009-2011) and is currently a Member of Parliament with the Panhellenic Socialist Movement/Movement of Change. As an MP, he represents the Hellenic Parliament in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe and has led over the years the work of several Committees in producing recommendations for the deepening of democracy, human rights, and the rule of law across its 47 member-states.

During his premiership, he applied a series of structural reforms in his attempt to modernize his country whilst avoiding bankruptcy during Greece’s 2010 debt crisis. For his achievements related to government Transparency, he received the Quadriga Award in the category “Power of Veracity.. In 2010, he was named one of the Foreign Policy magazine’s TOP 100 Global Thinkers. In 2017, he was honored with the International Leadership Association (ILA) Distinguished Leadership Award.

Dr. Ron Heifetz is among the world’s foremost authorities on the practice and teaching of leadership. He speaks extensively and advises heads of governments, businesses, and nonprofit organizations across the globe. Heifetz founded the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School where he has taught for nearly four decades. He is the King Hussein bin Talal Senior Lecturer in Public Leadership. His research addresses two challenges: developing a conceptual foundation for the analysis and practice of leadership; and developing transformative methods for leadership education, training, and consultation.

Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.

A Quote From This Episode

• "But the power of social media and the power of fake news was something I hadn't dealt with. How quickly it spreads. And how quickly it spreads worldwide, not just in Greece."

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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Dr. Barry L. Boyd is an Associate Professor in the Department of Agricultural Leadership, Education, & Communications (ALEC) at Texas A&M University. He holds the Thaman Professorship in Undergraduate Teaching Excellence. Dr. Boyd earned his doctorate from Texas A&M in 1991 with an emphasis in leadership education and instructional. He teaches courses in personal and organizational leadership development, developing youth leadership organizations, and applied ethics in leadership. Dr. Boyd’s research includes teaching and assessing critical thinking and using critical thinking in ethical decision-making. His team developed the QUEEN Model of Critical Thinking as part of a NIFA Higher Education grant.

Dr. Jennifer Strong is an Associate Professor of Leadership in the Department of Agricultural Leadership, Education, and Communications at Texas A&M University. She teaches undergraduate and graduate courses in leadership theory, ethics, organizational culture, team development, and leadership in popular culture. Her research includes the impact of innovative teaching methods on effective leader development and the intersectionality between critical thinking behavior (QUEEN Model), ethics, and followership. Dr. Strong received her bachelor's and master’s degrees in leadership from Texas A&M and her Ph.D. from Oklahoma State University.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Our students need to be able to talk about following ethically...we know not all leaders are ethical, and we know that there are ways that we need to govern ourselves so that we can lead up."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Ethical Leadership: Theory to Practice by Boyd and Strong
• Book: The Dichotomy of Leadership by Willinck and Rabin
• Book: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes by Collins
• Book: Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by Reid
• Book: Daisy Jones & The Six by Reid
• Book: The Three-Body Problem by Liu & Liu
• Book: Black Chalk by Yates

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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Dr. Dennis Tourish is Professor of Leadership and Organisation Studies at the University of Sussex. He is the former editor of the journal Leadership, and the author of several books including The Dark Side of Transformational Leadership, published and Management Studies in Crisis: Fraud, Deception and Meaningless Research. He is a proponent of the Responsible Research of Business and Management Network an organization that envisions a world where business and management research is used in practice to improve the lives of people.

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• "Populist leaders after the Second World War, at the very least, made at least some show of respecting democratic norms and tried to achieve power through winning elections rather than through military adventures or pushes. Fascist leaders are much more overtly concerned with mobilizing an angry mob and turning loose on the traditional institutions of the state or the opposition."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: It is Time to Use the F word About Trump: Fascism, Populism and the Rebirth of History by Tourish
• Book: Rebalancing Society by Mintzberg (free PDF)
• Book: Principles For Dealing with the Changing World Order by Dalio
• Book: How Civil Wars Start by Walter
• Book: The Cult of Trump by Hassan
• Book: The Fourth Turning is Here by Howe
• Book: Liberal Solidarity by Hodgson

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences all over the world including in Beijing, Toronto, Moscow, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Munich, Seoul, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Berlin, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Kyoto, and Sydney. She received the Wilbur M. McFeeley award from the National Management Association for her pioneering work on leadership and followership, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Quote From This Episode

• "I'm choosing not to identify a leader of the year but explore why great leaders seem so few and far between."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Website: Barbara Kellerman
• Blog Post: Barbara Kellerman's Leader of the Year
• Book: How Civil Wars Start by Walter
• Ted Talk: The Next Global Superpower Isn't Who You Think
• Ted Interview: Ian Bremmber - The US vs. Itself

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences all over the world including in Beijing, Toronto, Moscow, Melbourne, Buenos Aires, Munich, Seoul, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Berlin, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Kyoto, and Sydney. She received the Wilbur M. McFeeley award from the National Management Association for her pioneering work on leadership and followership, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

A Quote From This Episode

• "Liberal democracies struggle with governing in an age when leaders are so weak. They have very little power, authority, and less influence than ever, and followers are emboldened to be outrageous."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leadership From Bad to Worse
• Blog: Babara Kellerman's Blog

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Susan R. Komives is Professor Emerita in the Student Affairs Graduate Program at the U. Maryland where she taught until 2012. She is past president of CAS and ACPA and was Vice President of two institutions. She is the co-author or co-editor of 16 books, including Exploring Leadership,Leadership for A Better World, Handbook for Student Leadership Development, and How Academic Disciplines Approach Leadership. She and her research teams developed the Multi-institutional Study of Leadership and the Leadership Identity Development grounded theory. She is co-founder of the National Clearinghouse for Leadership Programs and the founding editor of the Wiley New Directions for Student Leadershipseries.

Dr. Julie E. Owen (she/her) is an Associate Professor of Leadership Studies at the School of Integrative Studies, George Mason, where she coordinates the leadership studies major and minor and is affiliate faculty with Women and Gender Studies and the Higher Education Program. Her most recent book is We are the Leaders We've Been Waiting For: Women and Leadership Development in College (Stylus, 2020).. Owen identifies as a white, currently-able, middle-class, cisgender woman working in the academy. She is committed to using her voice to advocate for positive social change leading to more equitable leadership for all and to consider how identities and social power shape practice. She explores the intersections of leadership identity, women’s adult development, and the scholarship of liberatory leadership teaching and learning.

About The Book

• "An essential resource for leadership educators and practitioners interested in advancing equity and social justice outcomes in their program delivery."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: A Research Agenda for Leadership Learning and Development Through Higher Education
• Film: Little Richard: I Am Everything
• Blog: Queerig Leadership
• TV Show: Yellowstone

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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The Right Honourable Beverley McLachlin, P.C., C.C., CStJ, served as Chief Justice of Canada from 2000 to mid-December 2017. In June 2018, she was made a Companion of the Order of Canada, the country’s highest accolade. She works in ADR as a bilingual arbitrator and mediator in Canada and internationally.

During her 28 years on the Supreme Court of Canada, she helped decide a wide variety of common law and civil law disputes in both French and English. Her tenure as Chief Justice was the longest in Canadian history.

The 2,094 Supreme Court of Canada judgments in which she participated—of which she wrote 442—and her legal writings and speaking include a wide range of subjects in corporate, construction, financial services, taxation, contract, tort, IT, patent, copyright, other areas of business law, as well as arbitration and mediation.

She has received over 35 honorary degrees from universities in Canada and abroad, and numerous other honours and awards.

Ms. McLachlin is also a Justice of Singapore’s International Commercial Court and the Hong Kong Final Court of Appeal.

Quote From This Episode

• "I would actually, consciously, try to put myself into the shoes of each of the parties and imagine, through an exercise, conscious exercise, what it would be like to have suffered what they suffered or encountered what they encountered, and how I would feel if I had encountered or suffered that."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Resource: Every Single Cognitive Bias in One Infographic
• Book: Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Dalio
• Book: Truth Be Told: My Journey Through Life and the Law by McLachlin
• Article: Justice Beverley McLachlin: A Remarkable Journey to the ‘Centre Chair by Erb
• Article: 'Conscious objectivity': That's how the chief justice defines the top court's role. Harper might beg to differ by Brean

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University. She speaks to non-profit and for-profit organizations worldwide and writes in leadership, organizational development, and higher education. Cynthia’s interests and research explore new ways to live, work, and lead in a knowledge-driven, interdependent, global culture.

Dr. Jim Dennis served as president of McKendree University for more than 25 years. Under his leadership the former chairmain of the board said the following of his leadership while at the University - “The accomplishments achieved as a result of Jim Dennis’ leadership have been nothing short of miraculous...Upon his arrival in 1994, he sought to breathe new life and vitality into this institution—and he has done so by every measure. The McKendree University community has been transformed by a more diverse faculty and student body, state-of-the-art facilities, a rich curriculum and presence in the arts, a focus on service, and graduating young men and women who are successful in every field and walk of life.” He also spent 27 years at the University of Southern California and is the co-founder of Cousins Camp (perhaps one of his greatest achievements).

Quote From This Episode

• "There's nothing much better than having grandkids, having them nearby, interacting with them, and being a very small part of their lives. And they don't know, but they're a very big part of our lives...the sheer joy that one gets from interacting with five little kids who are starting on their journey of life and watching them develop and grow."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Boys in the Boat by Brown
• Book: How Democracies Die by Levitsky and Ziblatt
• Website: David Brooks

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone are life and working partners, based in Sydney and Canberra, Australia, where they started their consulting practice (Vantage Point Consulting) in 1988. They have worked as leadership consultants, facilitators, and coaches with clients in the public and private sectors, not-for-profits, and professional service firms for forty years. They were visiting faculty at the Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University for fifteen years, are on the Faculty Advisory Board of the global Adaptive Leadership Network (Washington, D.C.), and are members of the Inaugural Faculty for the Australian Adaptive Leadership Institute.

Before starting Vantage Point, Maxime was a development officer for the Australian Public Service, a social health visitor in a low-income neighborhood, and a counseling psychologist for the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation. She is an Australian National University (Psychology and Politics) graduate with a Master of Educational Counselling from Canberra. Maxime can be found in her gardens, and she practices her Italian on Duolingo in her spare time.

Michael trained as a youth worker and has worked as a town and regional planner, social researcher, and university lecturer in Human Geography and Sociology - and for a while, was a dairy farmer on a kibbutz in Israel. He holds a BA from Auckland University, a Master of Social Science (cum laude) from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a Ph.D. from the Australian National University. In his spare time, he likes to read, cook, watch movies, and work in the gym.

They have three children and eight grandchildren and live in Sydney and Lazio, Italy, north of Rome.

Quote From This Episode

• "We wanted to expand people's capacity to think about provocation as something productive, something worthwhile, and that, for leaders, something essential."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Provocation as Leadership - A Roadmap for Adaptation and Change by Fern and Johnstone
• Book: The Social Brain: The Psychology of Successful Groups by Camilleri, Rockey, and Dunbar
• Book: Musk by Isaacson

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, IL - November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Jonathan Gosling is an Emeritus Professor of Leadership at Exeter University in the UK and a visiting scholar at other universities, including Bled, McGill, Monash, Renmin, and UWE. He has taught and researched leadership for over 30 years and is now an independent academic and consultant at Pelumbra.com.

Current projects include with the Forward Institute promoting responsible leadership in government, NGOs, and business; supporting the front-line leadership of HIV and malaria control programs in southern Africa; running a series of ‘One Planet Leadership’ RoundTables for experienced managers - and a new initiative to do the same for full-time students. He hosts writing retreats and this year published the 2nd Edition of Exploring Leadership: Individual, Organisational and Societal Perspectives’ (co-authored with Richard Bolden and Beverley Hawkins).

He represented UK Universities at the Rio+20 UN Sustainability Summit. He contributed to the ‘greening’ of management education, e.g., as co-author of the textbook Sustainable Business: A One Planet Approach and co-founder of One Planet Education Networks (OPEN). He worked as a community mediator for many years, co-founded Coachingourselves.com, and received the ILA’s ‘Lifetime Achievement Award’ in 2021. He is a keen sailor of fast catamarans and slow cruisers.

Quotes From This Episode

• "We're coming to a point where the drivers of change are probably going to be stronger than the drivers for continuity."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Hospicing Modernity by Oliveira
• Book: Principles for Dealing with a Changing World Order by Dalio
• Book: The Coming Wave by Suleyman
• Book: 21 Lessons for the 21st Century by Harari
• Article: A Leader's Framework for Decision Making by Snowden and Boone

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Rick Koster founded Leaderscope in 2013, a network of leadership trainers, coaches, and facilitators who develop courageous leadership to transform teams, organizations, and systems.

Rick has a background in ecology, neurobiology, leadership, and communication skills development. He specializes in developing and guiding transformative leadership programs, leadership team guidances, and designing processes for strategy development. He works in The Netherlands, where he lives, in Europe and Africa.

Leaderscope has a broad range of diverse clients, from large corporate organizations, many of them in food, to schools and universities, to health organizations and local and national governments. This is what Rick loves: diving into an organization, understanding how the ‘system’ works, and seeing what is needed for positive change.

Some of the leadership programmes Rick and his team have developed and delivered are the Nudge Global Impact Challenge and the European Nutrition Leadership Programme. Rick is also an established contributor to the programmes of the Academy of Leadership, Avicenna, in The Netherlands.

Quotes From This Episode

• "If I've been working really hard in a session, that's not a good sign. They have to be working really hard and doing most of the work because something has to happen within their organization or their team. And I'm the facilitator of that transformation."
• "Deep democracy is a way of thinking, a philosophy, a way of looking at organizations and teams. You look at the texture of an organization, the fabric of an organization. So, not what is happening in people, but between people - Iit's really beautiful."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Television Show: ‘How To' with John Wilson
• Organization: Deep Democracy Institute
• Application: Calm

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

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My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. David Rosch is an Associate Professor in the Agricultural Leadership, Education, and Communications Program at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. There, he teaches courses on leadership theory and adult training and development and researches the impact of leadership training initiatives. During his time on the faculty at Illinois, he has been named to the university’s list of “Instructors Ranked as Excellent” each semester.

Dr. Lori E. Kniffin(she/her) is an Assistant Professor of Leadership at Fort Hays State University. She teaches a variety of undergraduate and graduate courses through in-person and virtual modalities. Her experience teaching her department’s qualitative methods course has led to her passion for developing future leadership practitioner-scholars. Her teaching and research interests include collective leadership development, civic leadership, service-learning and community engagement, critical leadership studies, and qualitative research methods.

About the Book - Introduction to Research in Leadership

Introduction to Research in Leadership examines the process and skills required for effectively researching the concept of leadership. Its authors employ a microscope for close analysis and build balconies to see trends and gain perspective. Designed to be imminently practical, it employs concrete examples of fictional graduate students, faculty, and professionals struggling with their issues to help readers make sense of the world of research and its complexities. Filled with personal anecdotes, stories, and even a touch of humor each chapter weaves in relevant concepts so that those beginning the process of producing scholarship can start on a productive path and with a positive attitude.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Introduction to Research in Leadership by Rosch, Knifing, and Guthrie
• Book: Building Collective Leadership for Culture Change by Maria Avila
• Podcast: The Ezra Klein Show - It’s Time to Talk About ‘Pandemic Revisionism'

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Martin Gutmann is a Swiss-American historian and Professor at the Lucerne School of Business, Switzerland. His recent work includes Before the UN Sustainable Development Goals: A Historical Companion, which came out in 2022 with Oxford University Press, and just out this month, The Unseen Leader: How History Can Help us Rethink Leadership.Gutmann has a Ph.D. in History from the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, Syracuse University, USA and an Executive MBA from IE Business School, Spain. His writing has appeared in Journal of Contemporary History, Studies in Conflict and Terrorism, Journal of Modern European History, and Journal of Contemporary European History.A Quote From Better Humans, Better Performance

• "I use this example of a river...Imagine the leader trying to cross this river. And if there's a strong current, it's going to be these currents much more than any individual movements of the leader that will determine where he or she ends up on the other side. And it's the leader’s interaction with these currents that will make or break their endeavor, rather than their actions themselves."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Hidden Talent by Adam Grant
• Book: Think Again by Adam Grant
• Book: Wooden on Leadership by John Wooden

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Peter Rea is Vice President of Integrity and Ethics at Parker Hannifin . He is a Professor of Business Administration at Baldwin Wallace and teaches physician leadership for the Cleveland Clinic and chairs Ohio University's Medical School Advisory Board.

Parker Hannifin is a Fortune 250 with over $19 billion in annual sales, employing about 65,000 teammates in 50 countries. Parker is the global leader in motion and control technologies.

In 2012, Peter joined Parker in a newly established position to preserve Parker’s reputation and protect its financial strength. The mission is to help individuals and teams perform at a high level despite pressure and uncertainty guided by a character defined as a virtue.

The strategy is understanding and applying a strength-based approach to support existing business priorities. The business impact of the virtues has been increased engagement, enhanced teamwork, and leadership development.

Previously, Peter was Business Dean and founding Burton D. Morgan Chair of Entrepreneurial Studies at Baldwin Wallace University. He was the founding Director of Baldwin-Wallace’s Center for Innovation & Growth. The Center provides a practical forum for students, profit and nonprofit senior leaders, and entrepreneurs to create economic and social value through innovation guided by integrity.

He holds a Ph.D. from the University of Akron, an M.A. from Bowling Green State U., and a B.S. from Ohio U. He has completed postdoctoral studies in international marketing, finance, and marketing strategy at the University of South Carolina, Memphis University, Carnegie Mellon, and Duke.

A Quote From Better Humans, Better Performance

• "Virtue is more than a word: It’s a way for us all to live, a way to flourish as human beings. And when applied to organizational life, virtue serves to enhance engagement, strengthen teamwork, and foster success in business."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Better Humans. Better Performance
• Book: Exception to the Rule: The Surprising Science of Character-Based Culture, Engagement, and Performance
• Book: Leading with Integrity: Character-Based Leadership

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website
• Weekly Newsletter: The Leader's Edge

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Alana Nichols is a world-class athlete passionate about challenging herself and others. From a young age, her passion for sports and adventure has driven her and no matter what obstacle life throws her, she takes a challenge head-on. After suffering a spinal cord injury at age 17 while attempting a back flip on her snowboard, Alana quickly transitioned to adaptive sports. She is the first American female to win gold medals at the Summer (Wheelchair Basketball) and Winter (Alpine Ski Racing) Olympic/Paralympic Games. Currently training for the 2016 Rio De Janeiro Paralympic Games, Alana will be taking on a new athletic challenge in Sprint Kayaking and will continue to inspire and attract fans worldwide.

Alana graduated from the University of Arizona with an Education degree. Two years later, she obtained a Master’s Degree in Kinesiology from the University of Alabama. She serves on the board at EspnW, The Women’s Sports Foundation, and The Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation and advocates for sporting opportunities for girls and women. Finally, Alana won the first ever all-female adaptive surf competition in history and continues to passionately promote and enjoy adaptive surfing

Follow Alana on Social Media

• Twitter: @alananichols21
• Instagram:@alanathejane
• Facebook.com/alanajanenichols

A Quote From this Episode

• "Burnout is common for anyone, athlete or business person...how much can you take without going over the edge? It's basically finding that line."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• The Myth of Normal by Gabor Maté, MD
• Organization: The High Fives Foundation
• Organization: Access Surf

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. George R. (Al) Goethals is the E. Claiborne Robins Distinguished Professors in Leadership Studies Emeritus at the University of Richmond. Previously at Williams College he served as chair of the Department of Psychology, Acting Dean of the Faculty, Provost, and founding chair of the Program in Leadership Studies. Goethals’ published books include Heroes: What They Do and Why We Need Them (2010) and Heroic Leadership: An Influence Taxonomy of 100 Exceptional Individuals(2013, both with Scott T. Allison). More recently he authored Presidential Leadership and African Americans: “An American Dilemma” from Slavery to the White House (2015), Realignment, Region and Race: Presidential Leadership and Social Identity (2018), and The Romance of Heroism and Heroic Leadership(2019, with Allison). Goethals received the 2022 Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. With Allison and Georgia J. Sorenson he is co-editor of the Sage Encyclopedia of Leadership Studies(2023).

A Quote From this Episode

• "Burns never used the term 'transformational' leadership - it was always ‘transforming'... I would prefer that people, when they think of Burns, think of 'transforming' and think of the moral component, which really is central to all of his work."

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, USA, November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Juana Bordas is the author of Salsa, Soul, and Spirit: Leadership for a Multicultural Ageand The Power of Latino Leadership. Both books receivedthe International Latino Book Award and are break-through works in the multicultural leadership field. Her new edition of The Power of Latino Leadership ¡Ahora! was released in March 2023 and can be ordered on Amazon or your local bookstore.

Juana served as advisor to Harvard’s Hispanic Journal, the Kellogg National Fellows, and as a trustee of Greenleaf Center for Servant Leadership and International Leadership Association (ILA). She was the first Latino to receive ILA’s life-time achievement award.

As a founder and Executive Director for Mi Casa Resource Center, founding president of The National Hispana Leadership Institute and The Circle of Latina Leadership, she was commended by Latina Style Magazine for creating “a Nation of Latina Leaders.

Juana was the first in her family to graduate from college. She then served the Peace Corps in Chile and worked organizing production cooperatives in the barrios of Santiago. Today this type of microenterprise work is recognized as foundational for assisting people achieve economic security.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I call it 'Latino Destino.' I'm here to build a humanistic multicultural society."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Salsa, Soul, and Spirit: Leadership for a Multicultural Age
• Book: The Power of Latino Leadership ¡Ahora!

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 26th Global Conference in Chicago, USA, November 7-10, 2024.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Gary Lloyd has led organizational change initiatives for nearly thirty years. Over the last decade, he has also helped professionals make personal and career changes as co-chair of the Warwick Business School mentoring programme and as a steering committee member for its mentoring program. He spent most of his career in banking and financial markets. However, through his consulting and coaching work, he has also worked with clients in manufacturing, construction, logistics, food processing, and IT services. He's a volunteer steward at Shakesspeare's Globe Theatre in London and a volunteer coach for staff at St. Christopher's Hospice in London.

Gary has developed Leadership Skills Lab, a prototype interactive platform powered by ChatGPT to help you practice and refine your leadership skills through engaging role-playing scenarios.

A Quote

• "This site is an experiment to see whether I can combine two of my interests: Leadership Education and Artificial intelligence. To provide a learning experience through practice in a safe environment for various leadership skills. This is the very first prototype, providing a "flight simulator" for vital leadership skills. Feedback is very welcome."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Resource: ChatGPT4
• Podcast: The Inner Cosmos
• Book: The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity by Graeber and Wengrow
• Book: Lincoln in the Bardo by Saunders
• Book: Real-Time Leadership: Find Your Winning Moves When the Stakes Are High by Noble & Kauffman

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Jennifer Garvey Berger believes that leadership is one of the most vital renewable resources in the world. In this topsy-turvy time, when uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity are raging, we need a new form of leadership for a new era. To that end, Jennifer designs and teaches leadership programs, coaches senior leaders and their teams, and supports new ways of thinking about strategy and people. In her four highly acclaimed books, Unleash Your Complexity Genius (co-authored with Carolyn Coughlin), Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps, Simple Habits for Complex Times (co-authored with Keith Johnston), and Changing on the Job, Jennifer builds on deep theoretical knowledge to offer practical ways to make leaders’ organizations more successful, their work more meaningful, and their lives more gratifying. Jennifer has worked with senior leaders in the private, non-profit, and government sectors worldwide (like Novartis, Google, KPMG, Intel, Microsoft, Wikimedia, and the New Zealand Department of Conservation).

Jennifer is a co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership. She has a masters and a doctorate from Harvard University. Formerly an associate professor at George Mason University, Jennifer learned about deep change more than a decade ago when she turned down the tenure offer and moved to a small seaside village in New Zealand with her husband, two kids, and the family dog. While she still considers herself a Kiwi by choice, you can find her in the French countryside, where she has bought a house with eleven friends who live in community and try to keep the dog from terrifying the cats.

A Quote From this Episode

• "Good leaders design for connection."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Novelist - Victoria Goddard

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Randal Pinkett has established himself as an entrepreneur, speaker, author and scholar, and as a leading voice for his generation in business and technology. He is the founder, chairman, and CEO of his fifth venture, BCT Partners, a multimillion-dollar research, consulting, training, technology, and analytics firm headquartered in Newark, NJ.

Dr. Pinkett has received numerous awards for business and technology excellence including the Information Technology Senior Management Forum’s Beacon Award, the National Society of Black Engineers’ Entrepreneur of the Year Award, and the National Urban League’s Business Excellence Award. He has been featured on nationally televised programs such as The Today Show, Fox Business News, MSNBC, and CNN.

Dr. Pinkett is the author of Campus CEO: The Student Entrepreneur’s Guide to Launching a Multimillion-Dollar Business and No-Money Down CEO: How to Start Your Dream Business with Little or No Cash and co-author of Black Faces in White Places, which was named one of “The Best Books of 2010.” He holds five degrees including: a B.S. in Electrical Engineering from Rutgers, an M.S. in Computer Science from the University of Oxford, an M.S. in Electrical Engineering, an MBA, and a Ph.D. from MIT. Most notably, he was the first and only African-American to receive the prestigious Rhodes Scholarship at Rutgers University; he was inducted to the Academic All-America Hall of Fame, he was a former high jumper, long jumper, sprinter, and captain of the men’s track and field team; and he was the winner of NBC’s hit reality television show, “The Apprentice."

Born in Philadelphia and raised in New Jersey, he is a proud member of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, and the First Baptist Church in Somerset, NJ, where he resides with his family. Dr. Pinkett firmly believes that “for those to whom much is given, much is expected,” so throughout his endeavors, he places great emphasis on his desire to give back to the community.

A Quote From this Episode

• "I will have authentic, culturally diverse, and global relationships. I will bridge differences and be a bridge between communities of the like-minded. I will behave inclusively toward others and be an inclusive servant leader. And I will dismantle personal, interpersonal, institutional, and systemic barriers to help create environments that produce equitable outcomes for all."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Randal's Books and BCT Partners

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Bill Eddy, LCSW, Esq. developed the high conflict personality theory to explain the driving forces behind people who present the most challenging behaviors. He is an expert on managing disputes involving high-conflict situations and 5 high conflict personality types, including a subset of those with narcissistic, borderline, antisocial, histrionic, and paranoid personality disorders. He has trained over 200,000 professionals in 10 countries on understanding and managing high-conflict disputes, including lawyers, judges, mediators, managers, human resource professionals, businesspersons, healthcare administrators, college administrators, law enforcement, therapists, and others.

As an attorney, Bill was a Certified Family Law Specialist in California and the Senior Family Mediator at the National Conflict Resolution Center in San Diego. Before becoming an attorney in 1992, he was a Licensed Clinical Social worker with twelve years of experience providing therapy to children, adults, couples, and families in psychiatric hospitals and outpatient clinics.

He serves on the Straus Institute for Dispute Resolution faculty at the Pepperdine University School of Law. He is an Associate Professor at the University of Newcastle Law School in Australia. In 2021, Bill received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Academy of Professional Family Mediators.

Bill has a popular blog on the Psychology Today website with over 3.5 million views and is the author and co-author of twenty books on high-conflict personalities, including two award winners (see all books here):

A Quote From this Episode

• "About 10% of people have these extreme behaviors, and they don't stop themselvesand they are dysfunctional."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Calming Upset People with EAR
• Book: 5 Types of People Who Can Ruin Your Life
• Book: It’s All YOUR Fault! 12 Tips for Managing People Who Blame Others for Everything
• Book: The Sociopath Next Door by Stout
• Series - The Staircase

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Chris Lowney chairs the board of CommonSpirit Health, America’s largest nonprofit health system with $33 Billion in revenues and more than 150,000 employees. He is a one-time Jesuit seminarian and later served as a Managing Director of J.P. Morgan & Co on three continents. He is the author of six books, including the bestselling Heroic Leadership and the multiple award-winning Make Today Matter. He graduated from Fordham University, where he also received his M.A. He was raised in Queens, New York, hates the Yankees, and roots for the Mets without feeling shame.

David McCallum, S.J., Ed.D is a Jesuit priest and leadership educator. He serves as the founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, a special project of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, Georgetown, and the Gregorian University. The Program provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials and major superiors of religious orders in Rome, Italy, and internationally. He lives in Rome and serves as a member of the Secretariat for the Synod of Bishops Commission on Methodology, supporting the Synodal process initiative by Pope Francis, and as adjunct faculty in the Institute for Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies of Human Dignity and Care at the Pontifical Gregorian University.

A Quote From this Episode

• "If we're going to be successful in the long run, it means not just being ingenious once…we're going just to have to keep reinventing ourselves.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Chris Lowney's Social Media Channels: Twitter, LinkedIn, or Facebook.
• Book: Heroic Leadership by Lowney
• Book: Make Today Matter by Lowney
• Book: Everyone Lead by Lowney
• Book: Pope Francis by Lowney
• Organization: Pilgrimage for Our Children’s Future

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Seydina Ndiaye is a social entrepreneur and socio-political actor working mainly in inclusion, youth development, and democracy in Dakar, Senegal. He also works as a senior consultant focusing on politics and development strategies for digital growth, where he has had several collaborations with those in the Senegalese public sector.

Seydina is an alumnus of the Mandela Washington Fellowship for Young African Leaders, the flagship program of the Young African Leaders Initiative (YALI) and completed his program at Kansas State University. He is a civic leadership practitioner and is prototyping a contextualized civic leadership and engagement framework based on African local community organizing activities and spreading local narratives to increase citizen awareness to promote civic engagement, and participatory democracy, especially through digital technology and cyberspace.

A Quote From this Episode

• "And now, our challenge is to prepare...by investing in the young generation by giving them a different way of practicing, learning, and teaching leadership. "

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Systems thinking for social change
• Book: African Leadership: Powerful Paradigms For The 21st Century
• Book: Navigating Complexities in Leadership
• Seydina's Music Suggestions
  • J. Cole: Love Yours
  • Chronixx: Skanking Sweet
  • Chronixx: Same prayer
  • Chronixx: Jah is There
  • Sonia Jobarteh: Jarabi
  • Ashs The Best: Ayway Samba
  • Cesaria Evora: Sodade
  • Cesaria ft Salif Keita: Yamore
  • Youssou Ndour: Picc Me
  • Didier Awadi: The Roots
  • Tabanka Djazz: Silencio
  • Sara Tavares: balance

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Aliki Nicolaides Ed.D, is Professor of Adult Learning and Leadership at the University of Georgia in Learning, Leadership, and Organization Development program. Her research explores the intra-active dynamics of learning that generate personal and societal transformation. She accomplishes this by focusing her research on the role that learning plays in activating the vital potential that connects self and society. Her desire to create tools and scaffolds that grow individual and collective capacity for inquiry and action is central to her approach to teaching and mentoring the next generation of scholars and leaders of change. She's co-founder of the Generative Learning and Complexity Laboratory, which brings together scholars and practitioners of learning and complexity science to reimagine learning and development through the lens of generative knowing and complexity learning. Her scholarship is shaping a new philosophical strand of adult learning, what she describes as Generative Knowing: Ways of being and becoming that liberate potential creatively in her first solo book. Dr. Nicolaides is a founding steward and current Director of the International Transformative Learning Association.

David McCallum, S.J., Ed.D is a Jesuit priest and leadership educator. He serves as the founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, a special project of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, Georgetown, and the Gregorian University. The Program provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials and major superiors of religious orders in Rome, Italy, and internationally. He lives in Rome and serves as a member of the Secretariat for the Synod of Bishops Commission on Methodology, supporting the Synodal process initiative by Pope Francis, and as adjunct faculty in the Institute for Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies of Human Dignity and Care at the Pontifical Gregorian University.

A Quote From this Episode

• "How do I do good things if I'm not conscious of, and in relationship with, the whole ecosystem in which I'm in?"

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy by Odell
• Book - Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto by Hersey

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Nathan Eva is a Fulbright Scholar (2021) and the co-director of Engagement for the Department of Management at the Monash Business School. His research examines follower-first leadership approaches that deliver organizational performance combined with inclusive and supportive workplaces.

Associate Professor Eva received his Ph.D. from Monash University in 2014, received the 2015 Emerald/EFMD Outstanding Doctoral Research Award in Leadership, was awarded as a 2016 Greenleaf Scholar by the Greenleaf Centre for Servant Leadership, received the 2020 Dean's Awards for Excellence in Research by an Early Career Researcher, and was Highly Commended for his research as an Early Career Scholar for the 2018 ANZAM Excellence Awards. He received the 2016 and 2013 Dean's Award for Teaching Excellence at the Monash Business School, and has been consistently recognized for outstanding teaching by the Office of the Vice-Provost.

His peer-reviewed work appears in international outlets such as The Leadership Quarterly, Journal of Organizational Behavior, and Human Resource Management. His article on Servant Leadership in The Leadership Quarterly is the most downloaded and the most cited article in their journal since 2017, and his article on Psychological Safety in Human Resource Management Review received the journal's Scholarly Impact Award for the most impactful article (2017-2022).

Associate Professor Eva is a Board Member of theNetwork of Leadership Scholars, the Chair of the Leadership Scholarship stream for the International Leadership Association, and the Co-Chair of the International Leadership Association’s Leadership Education Academy. He is a Senior Editor for Management and Organization Review and an editorial board member of The Leadership Quarterly, Journal of Organizational Behavior, Journal of Business Ethics, & Group and Organizational Management.A Quote From this Episode

• "At the very core, it's all around this other orientation...Servant leaders really focus on the personal and professional development of their employees, team members, classmates, or sportsmates."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Podcast - The Leadership Educator Podcast
• Australian Bands - See show notes
• Servant Leadership Resources - See show notes

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Chris Esparza is a full-time consultant, facilitator, and trainer. He serves as Vice President for Leadership & Culture at Koppett & Co. This consultancy uses improvisation and storytelling to enhance creativity, connection, leadership, and learning with organizations and companies of all sizes.

Before joining the Koppett team, Chris spent 20 years in higher ed, rounding out that chapter as the Director of Diversity, Inclusion, and Leadership Development at the University of Oregon’s School of Law.

Throughout his career, Chris has infused an improvisational mindset in his work and approach to leadership development. He started his journey learning and performing improv in college as a 4-year member of the Stanford Improvisors. He currently serves on the Board of Directors for the global Applied Improvisation Network.

Chris is originally from Los Angeles, but now resides in New Orleans–a city that itself embraces a bit of an improvisational spirit.

A Quote From this Episode

• "I think improv is a teaching tool...it refreshes our attention...it offers a little bit of practice in that uncertain space."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Television Show - Ted Lasso

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. Henry Mintzberg is a writer and educator, mostly about managing originations, developing managers, and rebalancing societies (his current focus). After receiving his doctorate from the MIT Sloan School of Management, he has made his professional home in the Desautels Faculty of Management at McGill University in Montreal, where he sits in the Cleghorn Chair of Management Studies, with extensive stints along the way in England and France. He has authored 21 books, earning him 21 honorary degrees and an offficership in the Order of Canada. He publishes a regular blog, a collection of which was published as Bedtime Stories for Managers. He co-founded the International Masters Program for Managers (impm.org) and the International Masters for Health Leadership (imhl.org) as well as CoachingOurselves.com, all novel initiatives for managers to learn together from their own experience (mintzberg.org).

A Quote From this Episode

• "I'm trying to rebalance society...the world just won't listen. I don't know why."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Blog: Henry Mintzberg
• Book: Understanding Organizations, Finally!
• Book: Bedtime Stories for Managers
• Website: Rebalancing Society
  • The Declaration of our Interdependence
• Book: 21 LEssons for the 21st Century by Harari

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Jim Kouzes is the co-author of the award-winning, best-selling book The Leadership Challenge and more than a dozen other books on leadership including the 2021 book Everyday People, Extraordinary Leadership. He is also a Fellow of the Doerr Institute for New Leaders at Rice University. The Wall Street Journal named Jim one of the ten best executive educators in the U.S. and he has received the Distinguished Contribution to Workplace Learning and Performance Award from the American Society for Training and Development (ASTD) among many other professional honors.

A Quote From this Episode

• "If you want those kinds of outcomes, both financial and emotional outcomes, engage in these behaviors more frequently...it's not rocket science."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: The Leadership Challenge - 7th Edition by Kouzes and Posner
• Book: Everyday People, Extraordinary Leadership by Kouzes and Posner
• 2023 World Happiness Report
• Book: The Yin and the Yang of It All: Rock'n'Roll Memories from the Cusp as Told by a Mixed-Up, Mixed-Race Kid by Faye
• Book: The Good Life by Waldinger and Schultz

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Ronald E. Riggio, Ph.D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and former director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. Professor Riggio is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters in the areas of leadership, assessment centers, organizational psychology, and social psychology. He's served on the editorial boards of The Leadership Quarterly, Leadership, Group Dynamics, and Journal of Nonverbal Behavior.

A Quote From this Episode

• "We find that family is a critical element in the development of leadership potential."

Links From This Episode

• The Fullerton Longitudinal Study
• The Fullerton Longitudinal Study and Leadership

Dr. Ron Riggio's Work

• Books on Amazon
• Google Scholar

Resources Mentioned in The Episode

• The Working Life by Joanne Ciulla

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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When it comes to blazing the trail for women, the Right Honourable Kim Campbell's career includes many milestones. From 16, when she became the first female student body president of her high school, until 30 years later, as the first female prime minister of Canada at 46, Ms. Campbell has spent much of her life breaking barriers for women.

Not only does Ms. Campbell still hold the distinction of being Canada's first and only female Prime Minister, she is also the first Canadian Prime Minister to have held office in all three levels of government: Municipal, Provincial, and Federal. The Right Honourable Kim Campbell has held the cabinet portfolios of Minister of State for Indian Affairs and Northern Development, Minister of Justice and Attorney General, Minister of National Defence--the first woman to have held such a position in any NATO country--and Minister of Veterans' Affairs. Additionally, the breadth of her international experience includes participation in major international meetings such as the Commonwealth, NATO, the G-7 Summit, and the United Nations General Assembly.

After her tenure as Prime Minister, Ms. Campbell continued to serve Canada as a diplomat and was a Fellow at the Institute of Politics (Spring 1994) and the Joan Shorenstein Center for the Study of Press and Politics (1994-1995) at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard. Then, she served as the Canadian Consul General in Los Angeles from 1996-2000. In 2001 Ms. Campbell became a Fellow at the Center for Public Leadership at the Kennedy School and then was invited to join the faculty as a lecturer and remains an Honorary Fellow.

For a detailed account of Ms. Campbell's accomplishments, visit her biography.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Diogo Seixas is a dreamer, thinker, learner, author, and educator. His passion for leadership led him to develop almost 4000 college students and write a self-development book. Currently, Diogo is pursuing his Ph.D. In Business Administration, it is an instructor and academic researcher while also informally writing about life in the 30s and people in organizations. He is the author of Enjoy the Ride. To learn more visit https://www.rideacad.com/.

A Quote From This Episode

• "It's been a great experience. I love it. I thought it would be very hard, and it is hard. But, at the same time, it's very fulfilling. The semester just flew by, and I felt very, very good about everything.

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Zone of Proximal Development
• Author - Ana Suy

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Dr. V. Chunoo (he/his) is an Assistant Professor of Organizational and Community Leadership at University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. His research focuses on the cultural aspects of teaching and learning in leadership as well as the social justice outcomes of leadership development programs. V has co-edited Changing the Narrative: Socially Just Leadership Education and Shifting the Mindset: Socially Just Leadership Education. In addition, he is the Associate Editor of New Directions for Student Leadership, the Senior Research Fellow for LeaderShape, Inc., and the host of the NASPA SLPKC Podcast.

Dr. Tony Middlebrooksexplores the intersection of leadership, innovation, creativity, and design. He is Clinical Full Professor of Leadership at the Warrington College of Business at Florida. He has taught aspiring leaders from youth through executives, creating a wide range of courses and programs. Dr. Middlebrooks is the lead author of the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success, now in its second edition.

A Quote From This Episode

• "My hope is that, when we stand at the top of these ladders, it doesn't look like two separate ladders, it's one staircase. We have always been connected."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Video Game: The Last of Us
• Book: Creative Acts for Curious People by Greenberg
• Book: Orbiting the Giant Hairball by MacKenzie
• Book: Leaving the Ghostlight Burning by Livesay
• Book: Ideaflow by Utley & Klebahn

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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This episode was a lot of fun! I spoke with the 2023 CLC Champs from Concordia University, Nebraska. I talked to Concordia's coach Curt Beck, and several team members - Ashley, Chloe, Shelby, Carlin, Sydni, Aubrey, Olivia, Grace, Camryn, Marc, Austin, & Joel. We talked about their experience, key learnings, and thoughts on teaming.

What is the CLC?

Collegiate Leadership Competition (CLC), a nonprofit founded in 2015, creates a practice field where students can actively apply what they learn. We believe that leadership can be learned. With practice, our participants develop knowledge, build skill, and learn with other like-minded teammates who are passionate about leadership.

CLC’s curriculum explores the attributes of effective leaders, leadership/followership styles, creative problem-solving, influencing others, navigating difficult conversations, conflict resolution, ethical decision-making, stressors, and effective teaming.

Colleges and universities identify a coach and recruit teams of six students. Any student interested in practicing leadership is welcome. Each team member leads one challenge at the competition and receives extensive feedback based on their performance.

Academic Journal Articles about the Collegiate Leadership Competition

• Competitive Team Environments and Student Leader Capacity Growth
• Exploring Deliberate Practice & the Use of Skill Sheets in the Collegiate Leadership Competition
• Competition As Leadership Pedagogy: An Initial Analysis of the Collegiate Leadership Competition

Other Phronesis Episodes About the Collegiate Leadership Competition

• Ep. 61 - Team Blue Hens - A Chat with the 2021 CLC Champs
• Ep. 123 - Team JCCC - A Chat with the 2022 CLC Champs

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, October 12-15, 2023.

About The Boler College of Business at John Carroll University

• Boler offers four MBA programs – 1 Year Flexible, Hybrid, Online, and Professional. Each MBA track offers flexible timelines and various class structure options (online, in-person, hybrid, asynchronous). Boler’s tech core and international study tour opportunities set these MBA programs apart. Rankings highlighted in the intro are taken from CEO Magazine.

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, r

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Suzanna Fitzpatrick, DNP, ACNP-BC, FNP-BC, is a nurse practitioner at the University of Maryland Medical Center In Baltimore, Maryland, where she has worked since 2008. She is a senior nurse practitioner with expertise in surgical patients, transplant, oncology, and emergency medicine.

Dr. Fitzpatrick began her healthcare journey as a Paramedic, which she has continued doing as a volunteer for the past 20 years. Her educational background includes a B.S. from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County (2004) in Emergency Health Services, a B.S.N from Villa Julie College (2008), Masters in Nursing in Acute Care (2010), Post-Masters certificate from George Washington University in Family Practice (2013) and her Doctorate in Nursing Practice (2020). Her doctoral work focused on teamwork and collaboration with emergency nurses.

She has a passion for mentoring novice Nurse Practitioners in their transition into practice and professional development. She has written articles on teamwork, nursing leadership, and transition shock for novice practitioners. In addition, she is an adjunct professor teaching Doctoral nursing students system and complex leadership theories and practical strategies at the University of Maryland, Baltimore.

Suzanna is a co-founder of the Healthcare Leadership Community of the International Leadership Association.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Nobody has told you at all how to do performance evaluations, how to give and receive feedback, how to work in a team, how to sit and listen, all of these things."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Essentialism by McKeown
• Podcast - How I Built This
• Booke - The Power of Invisible Leadership: How a Compelling Common Purpose Inspires Exceptional Leadership by Hickman and Sorenson
• Merle’s Door: Lessons from a Freethinking Dog by Kerasote

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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Challenge Alaska's founder, Doug Keil, was electrocuted when he was 14. As a result, his left arm and left leg were amputated. Following the accident, Doug struggled with depression. After many years, he discovered an adaptive program at Winter Park in Colorado in 1975, which renewed his hope and helped turn his life around. Doug represented the United States in the 1980 Winter Paralympics, winning 2 Gold Medals in para-alpine skiing.

Returning from the Paralympics, Doug was determined to bring the same opportunities he found in Winter Park to Alaskans living with disabilities. Challenge Alaska was founded in 1980 and incorporated in 1982 to provide sports and recreation opportunities to Alaskans living with disabilities. Our first "office" was in a broom closet at Alyeska Resort, serving less than a dozen participants. Challenge Alaska now helps more than 1,000 people living with disabilities every year. A small sampling of our programs include archery, sled hockey, adaptive skiing, book club, and so much more.

About Challenge Alaska

• Mission: Challenge Alaska improves the lives of people with disabilities, their families, and the community through adaptive sports, therapeutic recreation, and education.
• Vision: Alaskans of all abilities have equal opportunity and access to sports, recreation, and community.

A Quote from This Episode

• "It was the first time since my accident that I felt the wind in my hair. Being able to move and the feeling of exhilaration...your body is free."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Website: Challenge Alaska:
• Honor: Senator Dan Sullivan Recognizes Doug Keil as Alaskan of the Week
• Article: Alaska Sends 3 Paralympians to Compete for Team USA in Beijing
• Movie: Just a Little Inconvenience

The International Studying Leadership Conference

• ISLC at Copenhagen Business School from December 10-12, 2023

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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For more than a decade, Valerie Livesay, Ph.D. has been thinking about and inquiring into the phenomenon of fallback­­––when despite our optimal developmental capacities, what we often refer to as our developmental center-of-gravity—we make meaning, feel, and act from a smaller, less complex, less capable form of mind.

As Chief Illuminator at Ghost Light Leadership, Valerie accompanies individuals through their discovery of self, using the analogy of theater to set the stage for their historical and unfolding story. Through her writing, speaking, coaching, and workshop offerings, Valerie invites the many characters that comprise the full ensemble of one’s self to dance together to better meet their intentions. She is the author of Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You in which she reveals both the despair and ecstasy that accompany a knowing of the fullness of one’s allowing the reader to find the fullness of themselves in the journey of development and the experience of being human.

Valerie earned her bachelor’s degree from Indiana University and a Ph.D. in Leadership Studies from the University of San Diego. Valerie lives in Southern California with her two cats, husband, and two children.

David McCallum, S.J., Ed.D is a Jesuit priest and leadership educator. He serves as the founding Executive Director of the Program for Discerning Leadership, a special project of the General Curia of the Society of Jesus, Georgetown, and the Gregorian University. The Program provides leadership formation for senior Vatican officials and major superiors of religious orders in Rome, Italy, and internationally.

Currently, Fr. McCallum lives in Rome and serves as a member of the Secretariat for the Synod of Bishops Commission on Methodology, supporting the Synodal process initiative by Pope Francis, and as adjunct faculty in the Institute for Anthropology, Interdisciplinary Studies of Human Dignity and Care (IADC) at the Pontifical Gregorian University.

A Quote From This Episode

• "That idealized self that we carry around can sometimes be so abusive to us, and keep us in a box, and keep us, in a sense, constrained in ways that are really a disservice, not only to ourselves, but to others. That vulnerability and the authenticity that you're inviting in your work is really liberating."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Leaving the Ghost Light Burning: Illuminating Fallback in Embrace of the Fullness of You by Livesay
• Book: Let's Pretend That Never Happened by Jenny Lawson
• Book: The Five Invitations by Frank Ostaseki
• Book: Falling Upwards by Richard Rohr

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Paul Hibbert is Professor of Management at the University of St Andrews. He is also an Honorary Professor at the University of Auckland Business School, a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy, the Chartered Management Institute, the British Academy of Management, and the Academy of Social Sciences. He earned his MBA and Ph.D. from the University of Strathclyde in Scotland.

Paul researches reflexive practice and processes of organizing and learning to develop insights for managers and leaders. His research has been recognized by awards from the Academy of Management, the Australia and New Zealand Academy of Management, and the British Academy of Management. His work is published in international journals such as Academy of Management Learning & Education, Journal of Management Education, Journal of Management Studies, Leadership Quarterly, Management Learning, Organizational Research Methods, and Organization Studies. His book How to be a Reflexive Researcher was published in 2021.

Paul is widely involved in leadership and service to journals and learned societies. His editorial roles include: Editor-in-Chief Academy of Management Learning & Education; co-Editor-in-Chief, British Journal of Management, former Associate Editor and current editorial board member of the Journal of Management Education and Management Learning; and editorial board member of Organizational Research Methods. He is the former Chair of the Academy of Management’s Management Education and Development Division.

Connecting with Dr. Paul Hibbert

• Twitter: @DrPaulHibbert1
• Website
• Google Scholar

A Quote From This Episode

• "While vulnerability has traditionally been regarded as a weakness, we argue for a reconceptualization in which vulnerability is instead thought of as providing the potential for generative learning in the right context."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - How to be a Reflexive Researcher by Paul Hibbert
• Book - The Chief Inspector Gamache Series Books 1 - 5 Collection Box Set by Louise Penny

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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• Note, this episode is (in part) a reflection on episodes 154-163. A series about the intersection of adult development and leadership: listening to those episodes will provide context for this discussion.

David V. Day holds appointments as Professor of Psychology and Leadership, and as Academic Director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He is a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, Association for Psychological Science, International Association of Applied Psychology, and the Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology. He has published more than 100 peer-reviewed journal articles, books, and book chapters, many pertaining to the core topics of leadership and leadership development. He received the Walter Ulmer Research Award from the Center for Creative Leadership in 2010 for outstanding, career-long contributions to applied leadership research.

Dr. Jonathan Reamsis driven by an insatiable curiosity about the essence of human nature and how to cultivate this essence in the service of leadership. He uses various outlets to achieve this. He currently has a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, where he teaches and does research on leadership development, coaching, and counseling. He serves as Editor-in-Chief of Integral Review, A Transdisciplinary and Transcultural Journal for New Thought, Praxis and Research. He is also a co-founder of the Center for Transformative Leadership and the European Center for Leadership Practice. Jonathan’s Ph.D. is in Leadership Studies from Gonzaga University. Jonathan practices the cultivation of leadership through consulting and leadership development program design and delivery.

A Couple Quotes

• "Much of this adult development work is about how people talk and think, or how they talk is supposed to reflect their thinking. But what about behaviors...how can we use virtual reality to put people into situations and see how they navigate that?"
• "We're trying to capture reality in flight. Development is going on all the time, every day, and the stages are helpful to a point, but then they sort of get in the way of what's going on in someone's developmental trajectory."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Theo Dawson's work
• Kurt Fischer's work
• Resource: Foundations of Lectical Assessment (FOLA)
• Book: The Unfolding Now by A. H. Almaas
• Book: Creative Act by Rick Rubin
• Book: Thought as a System by David Bohm
• Book: Faith Hope and Carnage by Nick Cave

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Annemarie de Jong brings 25 years of experience as a strategic adviser, impact consultant, and executive coach to leading national and multinational organisations. She’s on a mission to turn every business into a force for good, with leadership as the starting point.

Having conducted extensive research in Organisational Psychology and gained Masters’ in both Organisational Psychology and Business Administration, Annemarie is equipped to unite her sharp eye for people, group dynamics and personal leadership to transform organisations. Following MIT’s "Theory U" principles, her style is energetic, down-to-earth, and straightforward when guiding companies to dig deep and develop practical behavioural change.

Annemarie is an internationally published academic and speaker. Until 2012, she had a popular weekly column in the Dutch Financial Times and still contributes to various publications on change management, executive leadership, and corporate social responsibility.

In 2010, she joined Better Future as a Partner, and in 2014 she moved to NYC to start Better Future U.S. After she moved back to the Netherlands in 2019, she became the CEO and owner of Better Future (B Corp). She’s the chair of the Board of Heilige Boontjes – a local Dutch educational program creating job opportunities for formerly incarcerated individuals and dropouts.

Before Better Future, Annemarie worked at the premier leadership institute in the Netherlands for over a decade, where she managed key corporate accounts, founded and led their Corporate Innovative Change consultancy, and served on its Board of Directors.

About Better Future"We’re business backpackers. Adventurous curious, and a little rebellious. We are ready to step into new worlds every day. We are resilient when things don’t work out the way we planned and hooked on serendipity. We believe in the power of authentic relationships with people from different backgrounds and in all sorts and shapes. We’re comfortable in boardrooms just as much as in community centers everywhere around the globe. We’re business savvy, and we want to see tangible results. This is the adventurous life we lived since 2003."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Resource - Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)
• Video - The Girl Effect
• Danish Television Commercial - All That We Share
• Movie - Tar
• Movie - The Whale

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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Since 1966, Dr. Margaret Wheatley has worked globally in many different roles: a speaker, teacher, community worker, consultant, advisor, formal leader. From these deep and varied experiences, she has developed the unshakable conviction that leaders must learn how to evoke people’s inherent generosity, creativity, and need for community. As this world tears us apart, sane leadership on behalf of the human spirit is the only way forward.

She is a best-selling author of nine books, from the classic Leadership and the New Science in 1992. A recent work is The Warrior’s Songline,a multi-sensory experience of the journey Warriors for the Human Spirit take to become the presence of insight and compassion–no matter what is happening around them. This new form melds together voice and sound, creating an evocative and transcendent listening

Meg's latest book is the second edition of Who Do We Choose To Be?Co-host, Dr. Kathy AllenDr. Kathy Allen specializes in leadership coaching and organizational change in non-profit organizations, foundations, small to mid-sized businesses, community development, higher educational institutions, and collaborative networks.

Dr. Allen has written and presented widely on topics of leadership, human development, and organizational development. She is a skilled facilitator of organizational change and organizational development. The earmarks of her work are the creation of shared ownership of the results of a change project, long-term sustainable change for the organization, and increased capacity for the staff members and leaders in those organizations.

Dr. Allen's most recent book is Leading from the Roots: Nature Inspired Leadership Lessons for Today’s World. This book firmly anchors leadership in the soil of nature. It’s a foundational leadership framework that challenges our 20th-century views that leadership concepts can be universally applied to all contexts.

A Quote From Who Do We Choose to Be?

• "My aspiration is for you to see clearly so that you may act wisely."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Restoring the Kinship Worldview
• Book - We Are the Middle of Forever
• Book - Dark Emu
• Organization - Pachamama Alliance

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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Dr. Michael F. Mascolo is a Professor of Psychology at Merrimack College and Academic Director of the Compass Program — a transformational higher education experience based on principles of self-cultivation and mastery. He is also the Director of Creating Common Ground, a nonprofit devoted to helping people bridge divides on contentious interpersonal, social, and political issues. Beyond that — who cares? The important stuff happens when we speak.

Michael's Research

• Articles and Publications

A Quote From This Episode

• (When speaking about the work of Levina) "Every time you come up with a definition of what a human is, and you say, ‘This is what all humans are,’ somebody's not going to fit that definition...and they're going to become an ‘other.’ Instead, we need to see that each person is an infinity.”

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
• Philosopher - Emmanuel Levina

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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In this episode, Scott Allen and Jeff Strese discuss the unique context of family-owned businesses, focusing on leadership development, organizational effectiveness, and family dynamics. Jeff, who has 25 years of experience in this field, discusses the concept of "shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves" and how it affects family-owned businesses. He also explains the emergence of Wealth 3.0, which uses positive psychology and emotional intelligence to help younger and older generations understand the value shift.

Jeff stresses the importance of a whole new skill set for family business leaders, including effective onboarding, transparency, best practices, and earning the trust and credibility of the rest of the organization. He also recommends family enterprise programs and clear boundaries when coaching family members. Additionally, Jeff and Scott discuss the difficulty of transferring legacy to the next generation and recommend resources such as the Family Office Exchange.

About Jeff Strese

Jeff Strese is an Organizational Development Consultant and Executive Coach focusing on multi-generational family enterprises, corporations, and mission-driven nonprofit organizations. He has over 25 years of experience working across industries in leadership development, organizational effectiveness, and family dynamics. He holds family wealth and business advising certifications (CFWA, CFBA). Jeff has served as Chief Talent and Learning Officer (CTLO) at Tolleson Wealth Management, a multi-family office serving client families nationwide. Before his role at Tolleson, Jeff served as the Chief Human Resources Officer (CHRO) at Southern Methodist University (SMU).

A Quote From This Episode

• "There's been an emergence of something called Wealth 3.0, which is a more positive approach - using positive psychology and emotional intelligence to work with millennials and Gen Z family members. The view of wealth is changing with younger generations, requiring a whole new skill set for leaders and family businesses to understand."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Article - Wealth 3.0: From Fear to Engagement For Families and Advisors
• Organization - Family Office Exchange
• Articles - McKinsey - Return, Reimagine, Reinvent
• Book - The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You’re All In (For Emerging Leaders and Those Who Lead Them) by Adam Tarnow and David Morrison
• The Creative Act by Rick Rubin
• Let’s Go (So We Can Get Back) by Jeff Tweedy
• Miracle and Wonder: Conversations with Paul Simon by Gladwell

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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Dr. Susan Murphy is Chair of Leadership Development in the Business School at the University of Edinburgh. She was formerly Director of the School of Strategic Leadership Studies at James Madison University and Professor of Leadership Studies. She has published in Leadership Quarterly, Organizational Behaviour and Human Decision Making, Journal of Vocational Behaviour, Journal of Business and Psychology, and the Journal of Applied Psychology. We explore leadership development across the lifespan - a concept with so many possibilities for practitioners and scholars alike.

Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:

• Susan's Profile and Publications

A Quote From This Episode

• "Typically, when you think of the strategic leader, you think of the C-suite or high-level regional managers. As organizations become more complex, people need to think about what will happen in their part of the organization five years, ten years down the road."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - The Passengers
• Book - Losing the Signal
• Book - Thinking Strategically
• Book - Data Feminism
• Book - Equality Machine
• Book - Think Again
• Book - Reflection
• Book - Consider: Harnessing the Power of Reflective Thinking In Your Organization
• Resource - Every Single Cognitive Bias in One Infographic
• Resource - SCAMPER Method
• Resource - Cognitive Bias Video - Inattentional Blindness
• Resource - Conceptual Block/Gender Bias - Riddle

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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Dr. Wendy K. Smithis the Dana J. Johnson Professor of Management and faculty director of the Women’s Leadership Initiative at the Lerner College of Business and Economics, University of Delaware. She earned her Ph.D. in organizational behavior at Harvard Business School. She began her intensive research on strategic paradoxes—how leaders and senior teams effectively respond to contradictory yet interdependent demands. Working with executives and scholars globally, she received the Web of Science Highly Cited Research Award (2019, 2020, and 2021) for being among her field's 1 percent most-cited researchers. She received the Decade Award (2021) from the Academy of Management Review for the most cited paper in the past ten years. Her work has been published in such journals as the Academy of Management Journal, Administrative Science Quarterly, Harvard Business Review, Organization

Science, and Management Science. She has taught at the University of Delaware, Harvard University, and the University of Pennsylvania–Wharton while helping senior leaders and middle managers worldwide address issues of interpersonal dynamics, team performance, organizational change, and innovation. Wendy lives in Philadelphia with her husband, three children, and the family dog.

Connecting with Dr. Wendy Smith

• Twitter: @profwendysmith
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Wendy-Smith-111141458290288
• Instagram: @prof.wendysmith

A Quote From This Episode

• "Our mission is to invite people to not see tensions as a bad thing. But rather see tensions as a force of life, where we, as individuals, have the opportunity, have the agency to approach them differently."

The Discovering Leadership Textbook

• Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success by Middlebrooks, Allen, McNutt, and Morrison

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems by Wendy Smith & Marianne Lewis
• Book - Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words by David Whyte
• Book - Collaborating with the Enemy: How to Work with People You Don’t Agree with or Like or Trust by Adam Kahane
• Book - A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Reckoning with Our Past and Driving Social Change by Dolly Chugh
• Newsletter - Dolly Chugh - Dear Good People

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

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Dr. Jonathan W. White is aprofessor of American Studies at Christopher Newport University. He is the author or editor of 13 books, including Emancipation, the Union Army, and the Reelection of Abraham Lincoln (2014), which was a finalist for both the Lincoln Prize and Jefferson Davis Prize, a “best book” in Civil War Monitor, and the winner of the Abraham Lincoln Institute’s 2015 book prize. He serves as vice-chair of The Lincoln Forum, and on the boards of the Abraham Lincoln Association, the Abraham Lincoln Institute, and the Ford’s Theatre Advisory Council.

His most recent books include Midnight in America: Darkness, Sleep, and Dreams during the Civil War (2017), which was selected as a “best book” by Civil War Monitor; and “Our Little Monitor”: The Greatest Invention of the Civil War (2018), which he co-authored with Anna Gibson Holloway. In October 2021 he published To Address You As My Friend: African Americans’ Letters to Abraham Lincoln with UNC Press and My Work Among the Freedmen: The Civil War and Reconstruction Letters of Harriet M. Buss with UVA Press. His most recent book is A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House just won the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize.A Quote by Lincoln

• “I could not afford to execute men for votes."

Resources Mentioned In This Episode

• Book: A House Built by Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House by Jon White
• Article: Meet the Black Men Who Changed Lincoln’s Mind About Equal Rights by Jon White
• Website: http://www.jonathanwhite.org/
• Book: The Cross of Snow: A Life of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow by Nicholas Basbanes

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan now for ILA's 25th Global Conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, on October 12-15, 2023.

Connect with Your Host, Scott Allen

• LinkedIn
• Website

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Joe Hart is the President/CEO of Dale Carnegie Training, a company whose founder pioneered the human performance movement more than 100 years ago and has continued to succeed and grow worldwide, through constant research and innovation building on its founding principles.

Dale Carnegie has more than 3,000 trainers and consultants, operating in 200 offices in 86 countries around the world, impacting organizations, teams, and individuals. The Company’s client list includes more than 400 of the Fortune Global 500, tens of thousands of small to mid-sized organizations & over eight million individuals across the globe.

Since joining Dale Carnegie in 2015 as its President/CEO, Hart has initiated many important changes which have accelerated the Company’s transformation, including a global cultural and change management initiative called “One Carnegie” which has increased internal team collaboration and customer focus, as well as strategic accounts by over 200%; a successful worldwide rebranding of the iconic Dale Carnegie name; and a dramatic digital transformation across the company’s global footprint from nearly 100% in-person delivery to more than 75% online and blended programs in less than nine months (as chronicled in a 2020 Forbes Interview). In 2019, CEO Forum Magazine named Hart one of 12 Transformative Leaders in the U.S.

A visionary, risk-taking leader, Hart helped build two technology-based companies, including an e-learning business called InfoAlly. In 2005, Hart sold that company and became the President of a new company he helped form called Asset Health. Today, Asset Health is a privately held and fast-growing education technology, health promotion, and training company that serves Fortune 1,000 companies, major health systems, and other large businesses.

Hart holds a bachelor’s degree in political science from the University of Michigan and a law degree from Wayne State University. He is an avid runner, having competed in many marathons including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Berlin, among others. Hart is married and has six children.

A Quote From The Book, Take Command

• "How and with whom you spend your time will impact your thoughts, and it's important to pay attention to the influence in your life."

Resources Mentioned In This Episode

• Resource - Dale Carnegie Resources (podcasts, white papers, videos, webinars)
• Book - Take Command by Joe Hart and Michael Cromm
• Book - How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie
• Book - How to Stop Worrying and Start Living by Dale Carnegie
• Book - The Earned Life by Marshall Goldsmith
• Book - Stoner by John Williams
• Book - All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals with a keen interest in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Lisa DeFrank-Coleis an author, educator, and leadership coach with more than 25 years of experience working in universities and state government. Lisa works with individuals and groups to support their leadership learning and development through her writing, speaking, and coaching. She serves as professor and director of the West Virginia University Leadership Studies program. Her books include Women and Leadership: Journey Toward Equity and A Research Agenda for Gender and Leadership (2023).

Dr. Sherylle J. Tanis an applied psychologist, leadership educator and coach, and author with over 20 years of experience in higher education, research, and consulting. At Claremont McKenna College, Sherylle is the Director of Internships and KLI Research with the Kravis Leadership Institute and Visiting Assistant Professor of Psychology. Her books include Women and Leadership: Journey Toward Equity and A Research Agenda for Gender and Leadership (2023).

Dr. Tony Middlebrookscreates programs and tools, designs learning experiences, and explores the intersection of leadership, innovation, creativity, and design. He is Clinical Full Professor of Leadership at the Warrington College of Business at the University of Florida. He has taught aspiring leaders from youth through executives, creating a wide range of courses and programs. Dr. Middlebrooks is the lead author of the textbook Discovering Leadership: Designing Your Success, now in its second edition.

A Quote From This Episode

• "These issues of gender and gender equity are issues that are important for everyone...it's important, especially for men, to be advocates and allies and to learn about these issues because they often hold more of the power, authority, and privilege."

Resources/Authors Mentioned in This Episode

• Alice Eagly
• Crystal Hoyt
• Barbara Kellerman
• Julie Owen
• Taking gender into account: Theory and design for women's leadership development programs by Ely, Ibarra, & Kolb

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Aftab Erfan (she/her) is a scholar-practitioner currently serving as the City of Vancouver’s first Chief Equity Officer. She leads internal transformation for a public organization of nearly 10,000 employees. Originally from Iran, she moved to Canada as a teenager. Her formal education is in environmental sciences, fine arts, and urban planning. Aftab did much of her growing up within the youth environmental movement, where she learned that activism is an effective antidote to despair. In her late 20s, Aftab completed an action-research-based Ph.D. in Community and Regional Planning at the University of British Columbia, where she subsequently taught for nearly a decade and completed a 4-year stint as Director of Dialogue and Conflict Engagement for the university. She has worked as a consultant on four continents but finds much more meaning in working locally. Next to her family, Aftab's primary engagement is with the large systemic issues of our times. She wonders how we can become useful leaders in times of societal struggle, transition, and collapse.

Amiel Handelsman is a seasoned executive coach with 20+ years of experience helping leaders and teams navigate complexity. His clients have included college presidents, C-level business executives, and teams at every level. He is passionate about climate solutions and specializes in helping people deliver what they promise and build highly engaged workforces. Amiel is the author of four books, including Practice Greatness and the free e-books Reimagining American Identity and How To Be An Anti-race Antiracist, and is a frequent guest on podcasts. He holds a B.A. in Public Policy Studies from Duke University and an M.B.A. from the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. Amiel lives with his wife and two children in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

Resources Mentioned In This Episode

• Article: The Many Face of JEDI by Dr. Atfab Erfan
• Article: Response to Erfan by Amiel Handelsman
• Resource: Tobert's Action Logics
• Resource: Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (JEDI)
• Book: 4000 Weeks: Time and How to Use It by Oliver Burkeman
• Book: Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

A Quote From Atfab's Article

• "When the JEDI movement looks in the mirror, it sees many faces reflected back. I can only hope that giving names and definitions to some of these faces enables all of us who see ourselves a part of this movement to take our next steps with more awareness and mutual responsibility to one another."

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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H.E. Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović is Croatia's 4th and 1st female President (2015-2020) with broad national and international experience in politics, diplomacy, and security studies. During her career as an elected official and in national and international civil service, among others, she was elected a Member of the Croatian Parliament (2003) and served as Croatia’s first female Minister of Foreign Affairs (2003-2008) and Ambassador to the United States, Mexico, Panama and the Organisation of American States (2008-2011), as well as the first female Assistant Secretary General and member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) Senior Leadership (2011-2014).

She was elected an independent member of the International Olympic Committee in 2020, and has been appointed Chair of the Future Hosts Commission for the Games of the Olympiad. She is a Special Advisor to the Dean of the Zagreb School of Economics and Management. She serves on the boards of several not-for-profit institutions, such as Friends of Europe, the US Atlantic Council, GLOBSEC, Halifax International Security Forum, the Nizami Ganjavi International Center, and the Concordia Leadership Council. She is a Member of the High-Level Advisory Council for the High Representative for the UN Alliance of Civilizations (UNAOC), the Global Ambassador for Immunization for Women Political Leaders (WPL), and chair emerita of the Council of Women World Leaders.

Parallel to her diplomatic and political careers, she has pursued an academic career in government, international relations, and security studies at the Vienna Diplomatic Academy (1994-1995), the George Washington University (2002-2003), Harvard University (2009), the Johns Hopkins University (2011), and the University of Zagreb. She holds a Master’s degree and is writing a Ph.D. thesis in International Relations and Security Studies on the Responsibility to Protect. She received the 2019 Fulbright Lifetime Achievement award for her "remarkable contributions as a leader, diplomat, and public servant," the George Washington University President’s medal, and many other national and international awards, decorations, recognitions, honorary doctorates and honorary citizenships.

Quotes From This Episode

• "You have to be persistent. You have to be patient, and you have to be creative"
• "Human rights are not an internal issue any longer. And it’s not somebody else’s business. It’s the responsibility of all of us to ensure that they are respected everywhere in the world."
• "You have to be able to adjust your goals and adjust your plans. But even when you have to do that, you have to keep in mind that you shouldn’t be adjusting your values."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Song: A Voice for Ukraine by Slava Vakarchuk

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Uppsala, Dartmouth, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. During the spring 2022 term she was Visiting Professor of Leadership at Christopher Newport University. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is the author and editor of many books including The Political Presidency; Bad Leadership; Followership ; Leadership: Essential Selections on Power, Authority, and Influence(2010); The End of Leadership (2012); Hard Times: Leadership in America (2014), Professionalizing Leadership(2018); and (with Todd Pittinsky) Leaders Who Lust: Power Money Sex Success Legitimacy Legacy. Kellerman has appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.Barbara Kellerman has spoken to audiences worldwide, including in Berlin, Moscow, Sao Paolo, Jerusalem, Mumbai, Toronto, Kyoto, Beijing, Sydney, and Seoul. She received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the International Leadership Association. In 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.” Her most recent book – The Enablers: How Team Trump Flunked the Pandemic and Failed America – was published in August 2021 by Cambridge University Press.

A Quote From This Episode

• "I hope your listeners will forgive me for having a leader of the year who by almost every count is evil. But there you go. It's an instruction and a lesson that we need to learn evil leaders can have an enormous impact, and in this case, Vladimir Putin did."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Leader of the Year – 2022
• Women Leaders Leaving

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Suze Wilson, is a Senior Lecturer in the School of Management at Massey University. She is passionate about all things leadership along with an abiding interest in how we can make organisations both effective for external stakeholders and enjoyable places to work for employees.

Her doctoral research examined why and how it has become normalized in recent decades to equate 'leadership' with grandiose expectations of 'transformation', 'vision', and 'charisma'. She argues these ideas, when examined closely, actually create undesirable pressures on leaders, grant them excessive powers, and rely on the problematic assumption that 'followers' are inherently inadequate. She is interested in theorising and practising leadership in ways that are more inclusive and humble.

Dr. Brad Jackson joined Waikato Management School as Associate Dean Strategic Engagement in May 2020. He currently serves as MBA Director and Professor of Leadership and Governance and is the Programme Director for the Community Enterprise Leadership Foundation Elevate programme.

Jackson has published seven books—Management Gurus and Management Fashions, The Hero Manager, Organisational Behaviour in New Zealand, A Very Short, Fairly Interesting and Reasonably Cheap Book About Studying Leadership, Demystifying Business Celebrity, Revitalising Leadership, and The Board as the Nexus Between Leadership and Governance and Responsible Leadership in Corporate Governance. He also co-edited the Sage Handbook of Leadership and Major Works in Leadership. Brad is a former co-editor of the journal, Leadership, and vice-chair of the Akina Foundation, Toi Whakaari: NZ Drama School, and the International Leadership Association.

Articles

• Jacinda Ardern’s resignation: gender and the toll of strong, compassionate leadership
• The hatred and vitriol Jacinda Ardern endured 'would affect anybody'
• Do you want the heartwarming version of Jacinda Ardern's story, or the chilling one?
• When are we going to address misogynistic abuse?
• Leaving Leadership

Two Quotes

• "Few of us can ever grasp just how unrelentingly demanding and difficult leading a country actually is. Especially in times of crisis and with our modern media and online environment, every statement and every move a leader makes is subject to extensive scrutiny and commentary." - Suze Wilson
• "The awful phrase that always haunts me in leadership is 'we get the leaders we deserve.' How do we create more sophisticated, more critical consumers of leadership? " - Brad Jackson

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Jonathan Reams is driven by an insatiable curiosity about the essence of human nature and how to cultivate this essence in the service of leadership.

He uses various outlets to achieve this. He currently has a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, where he teaches and does research on leadership development, coaching, and counseling. He serves as Editor-in-Chief of Integral Review, A Transdisciplinary and Transcultural Journal for New Thought, Praxis and Research. He is also a co-founder of the Center for Transformative Leadership and the European Center for Leadership Practice. Jonathan’s Ph.D. is in Leadership Studies from Gonzaga University.

Jonathan practices the cultivation of leadership through consulting and leadership development program design and delivery. He brings awareness-based technology to this work, focusing on how the inner workings of human nature can develop leadership capacities for today’s complex challenges.

Quotes From This Episode

• "Leaders create the weather, and it's often leaders' unconscious shadows that are the most active weather creation patterns."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Article: Lare Scale Leadership Development Program (Jonathan's Program)
• Article: Immunity to Change - Report from the Field
• Organization: Minds at Work
• Organization: Lectica
• Organization: Arbinger Institue (Leadership and Self Deception and The Collusion Map)
• 360 Degree Assessment: Leadership Circle
• Resource: Transformations Card Deck
• Book: The Talent Code by Coyle

More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams

• Jonathan's Website
• Book: Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership
• Article: A Brief Overview of Developmental Theory

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Dr. Jimmy Parker advises executives leading unprecedented transformations in large organizations. He has led over 100 transformation initiatives in multiple Fortune 50 companies and several industries (technology, healthcare, energy, retail, and the public sector). In his 30 years of transformation work, his innovative techniques have minimized the time, cost, and effort required to create true transformation that sticks. A lifelong student of the craft, he has studied over 5,000 titles on transforming leaders, teams, and entire organizations. Jimmy is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, served 11 years as a Marine Corps pilot, and led agile software teams before earning a masters in organizational development and Ph.D. in developmental psychology applied to org transformation.

Quotes From Jimmy's Chapter

• "We’re ultimately trying to change leadership behavior. And if you want behavior change that sticks, you often have to change the mindsets that drive that behavior: whether those mindsets are outdated leadership paradigms, unrealistic expectations about yourself or others, or just plain false assumptions."
• "The weekly Do-Discuss-Document cycle: Do a bite-sized developmental activity on the job, discuss it in your peer group that week, and document key insights and lessons learned."
• This “knowing-doing gap,” or the difficulty us humans seem to have in actually doing what we know we should, both frustrated and fascinated me.

More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams

• Jonathan's Website
• Book: Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership
• Article: A Brief Overview of Developmental Theory

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Iva Vurdelja, Ph.D., is the Founding Principal of Requisite Development LLC. Iva has a multifaceted career as an educator, consultant, and executive coach. She enables senior leaders in organizations to navigate and sustain large-scale, complex change by helping them to build deep thinking, leadership, and decision-making capabilities. Iva is also a Visiting Clinical Professor at Loyola and Marquette Universities Schools of Business, where she teaches graduate courses in organizational ethics, strategic change, leadership, and human resources development.

A Quote From Iva's Chapter"Adult cognitive development, a separate line of inquiry within a broader frame of adult development, evolved as a process for developing increasingly sophisticated conceptual structures...However, the approach has not yet been widely applied to measuring leadership capacities for leading complex organizational change."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book - Dialectical Thinking for Integral Leaders: A Primer by Laske
• Book - Measuring Hidden Dimensions: The Art and Science of Fully Engaging Adults by Laske

More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams

• Jonathan's Website
• Book: Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership
• Article: A Brief Overview of Developmental Theory

About Scott J. Allen

• Website

My Approach to Hosting

• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership.

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Abigail Lynam, Ph.D., is Faculty for Fielding Graduate University’s Ph.D. in Human and Organizational Development and Faculty and Coach for Pacific Integral’s Generating Transformative Change program. Her scholarship and practice sits at the intersection of personal and systemic transformation and development, the area of emphasis being adult developmental psychology applied to adult learning, coaching, social change, and leadership development.

Geoff Fitch is co-founder and faculty at Pacific Integral, and has been creative leader, coach, and educator exploring diverse approaches to cultivating higher human potentials for over 25 years, including somatic and transpersonal psychology, mindfulness, creativity, leadership, integral theory, and collective intelligence. Geoff also has more than 30 years of experience in leadership in business. He holds a Master’s degree in Transpersonal Psychology from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology and a B.S. in Computer Science from Boston University.

A Quote From This Episode

• "Sometimes people describe it as being out at sea in a boat...floating on the ocean with no oars and no land in sight. A certain kind of faith and trust needs to happen in the 'letting go' because we're waiting for what's next to come. And that can be quite disorienting."

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Podcast Episode - Working with the Stages Model
• Article - Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Meadows
• Article - Transactional and Transformational Leadership: A Constructive/Developmental Analysis by Kuhnert and Lewis
• Film - Severance
• Music - Kind of Blue by Miles Davis
• Article - Masters of Love by Smith

More About Series Co-Host, Dr. Jonathan Reams

• Jonathan's Website
• Book: Maturing Leadership: How Adult Development Impacts Leadership
• Article: A Brief Overview of Developmental Theory