Diversity in Research Podcast: Recent Episodes

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An exploration of diversity in research management and international research collaborations. We cover how we make research environments more inclusive and why doing this helps us to solve global challenges through research. Based in Europe but talking to the world of academic research.

Gender equality in academia and research has been a topic for decades. And between that and the #metoo movement, one would think we had solved the problems.

Yet, here we are. While we usually say that diversity is more than gender, it's also gender. So we invited Marcela Linkova from the GenderSAFE project on the podcast to discuss the project and their mid-way report and for a broader discussion about gender and how we advance the agenda.

We discussed the project, what gender-based violence means, the complexity of intersectionality, power, internationalisation, and the precariat, the term "institutional betrayal," and how research managers can help advance gender equality.

This episode is sponsored by Digital Science.
It is produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

You can learn more about Marcela and the GenderSAFE project at:

You can follow Marcela at LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcela-linkova-a5ba9156/
You can read more about Marcela at her home university: https://www.soc.cas.cz/en/staff/marcela-linkova
You can follow the GenderSAFE project at LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gendersafe-gbv/posts/?feedView=all
You can read more about the GenderSAFE at the project website: https://gendersafe.eu/
You can find the report we discussed here: https://zenodo.org/records/13380368
The UniSAFE toolkit can be found at: https://unisafe-toolkit.eu/
You can find Centre for Institutional Courage at: https://www.institutionalcourage.org/

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Creating equitable research collaborations between the Global North and Global South has been a struggle for many years. How do you create equitability when there is a structural imbalance in the core element of research: funding? And how do you balance the need for global collaboration with differences in values on diversity issues like gender, race, LGTBQ+ issues, etc.?

These are not easy questions, but the Guild of Research Intensive Universities (The Guild) and African Research Universities Alliance (ARUA) are trying to navigate these challenges through the Africa-Europe Clusters of Research Excellence (CoRE). We chatted with Sean Rowlands, senior policy advisor at The Guild, about the initiative, the role of the AU-EU Innovation Agenda moving forward, and how they intend to work with diversity.

It was a great chat about bottom-up initiatives and top-down policies, insisting on equity, funding, building trust and learning from each other.

We hope you’ll all follow the CoRE project and see how they work with equity, which the rest of us can learn from.

The episode is edited and produced by Peter Xiong.

It is sponsored by Digital Science.

To learn more:

Learn more about the Africa-Europe Clusters of Research Excellence initiative, led by The Guild and ARUA here: https://www.the-guild.eu/africa-europe-core/

African Research Universities Alliance (ARUA): https://arua.org/about/

The Guild of European Research-Intensive Universities: https://www.the-guild.eu/about/

You can connect with Sean Rowlands on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-rowlands/

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A core element of our work is to make research managers key promoters of diversity in research and research management. But sometimes, we felt a little alone with this agenda. Then, along came Kris and Joey. Kris A. Monahan is the President of NCURA (National Council of University Research Administrators), and Joey Gaynor is chair of NCURA's International Region. We had a great conversation at a conference and decided to move to the podcast.

The conversation explores their experiences promoting equity, diversity and inclusion (EDI) in research management in the US and internationally through NCURA. The US context is characterised by political polarisation and state-level bans on EDI initiatives, which impact research institutions. The conversation highlights the importance of having conversations and creating safe spaces to discuss EDI and the need for organisations like NCURA to provide education and training on EDI as well. Balancing global EDI standards with local customs and traditions is a complex task, but organisations can play a role in facilitating these discussions and promoting change. The conversation emphasises the importance of embedding EDI in the research management profession and moving beyond tokenistic approaches.

We love the work NCURA have done so far. Will we try to push them further? Certainly.

The episode is produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

Learn more:
You can learn more about NCURA here: www.ncura.edu
You can find the part of the website here: https://www.ncura.edu/DEI.aspx
You can follow Kris here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kris-monahan-ph-d-9a14a817/
You can follow Joey here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joey-gaynor-452937211/

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Join us in this conversation with Robin van Kessel, a health policy researcher at the London School of Economics, as we explore the intricate dynamics of health data, digital health technologies, and AI in healthcare. Robin shares his expertise on health data poverty, the challenges of ensuring inclusive health datasets, and the importance of nuanced policymaking in addressing these issues.

We discuss the concept of health data poverty, its implications, and its impact on the inclusivity and accuracy of health research. Robin highlights the catch-22 of building tools for underrepresented communities without adequate data representation.

To improve health data inclusivity, Robin emphasizes the importance of culturally and linguistically appropriate promotional materials and trust-building measures with minoritized communities. We also explore the benefits and limitations of AI in healthcare, the risks of algorithmic bias, and strategies to mitigate these risks, ensuring AI tools are beneficial and inclusive.

Balancing privacy and data utility is another key topic, with Robin discussing technologies like zero-knowledge cryptography and federated learning to protect privacy while enabling valuable data use. He stresses the importance of fostering trust in data collection and usage practices.

Finally, we talk about the problem of "info noise" in policymaking and the need for clear, valuable information. He advocates for encouraging bottom-up innovation and the inclusion of diverse perspectives, suggesting the potential of citizen advisory boards in research. In his final thoughts, Robin addresses the duality of data-related harms, emphasizing the need to embrace new technologies and inclusive practices in policymaking and research.

The episode is edited and produced by Peter Xiong.

You can learn more about Robin here:

You can read more about Robin at his LSE page: https://www.lse.ac.uk/lse-health/people/robin-van-kessel

You can follow him on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-van-kessel/

The three articles mentioned in the interview can be found here:

-https://doi.org/10.2196/33819
-https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071913
-https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30317-4

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Like many others, we’ve been exploring the capabilities of AI tools. However, when we started considering their implications in terms of diversity and security, we found ourselves with more questions than answers. We're not afraid to admit that we see potential problems, and we're eager to discuss them.

That’s why we invited Avi Staiman on the podcast. Avi is the founder and CEO of Academic Language Experts. Soon after the launch of ChatGPT and other AI tools, he started talking about how to use it in research and research management, including in writing proposals.

We met Avi at a conference on the topic in Brussels in November 2023, and we agreed to take the conversation to the podcast to balance the potential and the risks. It was a long but fascinating conversation, and as expected, we didn’t disagree that much. However, it shows that using AI tools, particularly in writing research proposals, requires skills and consideration.

We also discuss how AI tools can level the playing field and perhaps even benefit researchers from minority backgrounds.

This episode is produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

You can read more about Avi and follow him here:

You can read more about Academic Language Experts at: https://www.aclang.com/

You can follow Academic Language Experts on X: https://x.com/ALETranslation

You can follow Academic Language Experts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/academic-language-experts/

You can follow Avi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/avi-staiman-academic-language-experts/

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Being queer is many different things, and we try to remember that our experience as white cis-gendered gay men in the UK and Denmark is not representative. We have long talked about inviting Professor Sandy O’Sullivan on the podcast, and what better occasion than Pride Month?

Sandy is a Wiradjuri (Aboriginal), transgender/non-binary person, and a Professor in the Department of Indigenous Studies at Macquarie University, Australia and heavily involved in the Centre for Global Indigenous Futures.

We talked to them about anti-colonialism, queer studies, indigenous studies in a global perspective and the colonial project of gender. Sandy brought so many perspectives and layers to the conversation and certainly challenged us in how we see and understand the world.

Happy Pride Month.

The episode is produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

You can learn more about Sally here:
Their profile at Macquarie University
Their profile at LinkedIn
Their Twitter profile

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When discussing diversity, we talk a lot about gender, race, and LGBTQ+ issues. There is, of course, more to the issue – and according to Kathrine Deane, disability is the next frontier.

Kathrine is an associate professor at East Anglia University. She has a disability herself, but that doesn’t stop her from being a force of nature – and an absolute delight to talk to. And she doesn’t compromise. She demands 100% accessibility for everybody. She also embodies that talking about diversity can and should be fun.

In our conversation Kathrine easily goes from the overarching aims and policy goals to the practical advice and shows us how a lot of this doesn’t have to be expensive. Some of it is expensive, particularly if it comes as an afterthought and we have to rebuild or renovate buildings or labs.

We also talk about allyship and how research managers and administrators can support researchers with disabilities.

The episode is edited and produced by Peter Xiong.

To learn more about Kathrine and her guidelines:

You can find Kathrine’s Access All Areas in Labs Disability Access Guidelines now available here: https://www.uea.ac.uk/web/groups-and-centres/projects/access-all-areas-in-labs/access-guidelines

You can find her profile at East Anglia University here:

https://arc-eoe.nihr.ac.uk/about-us/people/researchers/katherine-deane

You can follow here on LinkedIn here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-deane-37178047/

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Not all research institutions have a set of courses or clearly defined career pathways for their researchers. We expect researchers to be born with the necessary skills to project manage, plan their career and support research networks or miraculously achieve them when they get their PhD degree. Pedro Resende co-founded Chaperone, the first personalised online career development platform for scientists.

We found that concept intriguing and wanted to chat with Pedro about his thoughts on career development and, of course, the role of managing diversity and internationalisation in today’s ideas of skills for researchers. We talked about all of that and how Chaperone addresses this themselves and work with it internally in the company and when developing consultancy and coaching. We also talked about how an increasingly uncertain world affects this and how research managers and administrators can support this.

This episode is produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

Links

You can follow Pedro on LinkedIn at:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedro-resendescience/

Read more about Chaperone at:

www.chaperone.online

You can follow Chaperone on LinkedIn at:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/chaperone-online/

You can follow Chaperone on Instagram at:

https://www.instagram.com/chaperone.online/

You can follow Chaperone on Twitter at:

https://twitter.com/ChaperoneOnline

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This week, we are joined by Sarah McLusky, who is a consultant, trainer and facilitator who helps research organisations and individuals maximise their research and research careers. Sarah hosts the brilliant Research Adjacent podcast where she talks with those working in the research space how they support research to be the best it can be.

In this episode, we delve into the crucial concept of being research adjacent. We explore its significance in fostering inclusion in research and research environments, particularly in understanding why many women hold research-adjacent roles. We also discuss strategies to ensure that the research space remains open and welcoming to all.

To find out more about Sarah and the work she does check out her website: https://sarahmclusky.com/

And make sure you listen to her podcast too: https://sarahmclusky.com/research-adjacent-podcast

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One of the challenges with working with diversity is how some of it has been politicised. In this episode, we explore the case of UK Secretary of Science Michelle Donelan. In the fall of 2023, after the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, she accused two researchers of sympathising with Hamas. The two researchers were on the UKRI Expert Advisory Group on Equality, Diversity and Inclusion, and the secretary insisted that the group be dissolved.
In this episode, we explore the case - and discuss why this is not only a UK matter. Because at the end of the day, universities are political institutions and if we want to promote diversity (and we do!) - then we have to navigate politics. For the rest of us, we hold the advantage of learning from the UK case and applying these insights in our own academic settings.

In describing the case, we rely heavily on the reporting done by Research Professional News. Thank you for the in-depth coverage.

This episode was produced and edited by Peter Xiong.

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Global collaborations in research, teaching and student recruitment remain at the heart of the work of higher education institutions across Europe. The European Universities Association (EUA) recently released a report which explores possible futures of transnational cooperation for universities. Taking an exploratory foresight approach, the report provides the tools for universities to think through how they can prepare for future collaborations.

Not surprisingly, some of the proposed outcomes don't look great for minority groups working in or with institutions. We talked with Anna-Lena from the EUA about the report, how it came about and what it means for the future of university collaborations.

Alongside the foresight report, key policy messages were released. You can see links to both reports below. This was a fascinating conversation and provides food for thought about how universities can navigate international research collaborations in the future and what this might mean for equality, diversity and inclusion in research.

The EUA foresight report: "What if? - Exploring possible futures of transnational cooperation for Europe’s universities":https://bit.ly/UNIFE-report
The policy messages: “"A renewed social contract for Europe and its universities":https://bit.ly/UNIFE-policy-input

This episode was produced by Peter Xiong.

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Research management has grown globally over recent years, with universities, funders, and policymakers recognising the profession's importance in ensuring effective research delivery, particularly as research becomes increasingly international in focus.

A new book, The Emerald Handbook of Research Management and Administration Around the World, reflects this growth by taking a global approach to understanding the growth, differences, similarities and challenges in research management. For this episode, we speak to two of the book's editors (Simon Kerridge and Melinda Fisher) about the book, its idea, and what they hope people will get from it. We also interviewed two of the chapter authors from Columbia (Andrea Navas Calixo) and Malaysia (Shaliza Ibrahim and Tan Hsiao Wei), where we explored research management in their respective countries.

The book is available as an Open Access publication and can be found here: https://www.emerald.com/insight/publication/doi/10.1108/9781803827018

If you want to check out the specific chapters that were discussed in this episode, these can be found here:
- Malaysia: https://doi.org/10.1108/978-1-80382-701-820231047
- Columbia: https://doi.org/10.1108/978-1-80382-701-820231042

We were also lucky to have the opportunity to write a chapter about diversity and internationalisation and how we believe it is now a core competency in global research management. You can find our chapter here: https://doi.org/10.1108/978-1-80382-701-820231033

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Along with much of the European research community, we're slowly warming up for what FP10 - the next European research framework programme - will look like. Our primary concern, not surprisingly, is what role diversity and internationalisation play.

A main consideration, of course, is what is politically feasible, and without naming names - well, we are - some European countries have more conservative views on diversity than we do.

So, we decided to look at history and invited historian Kamil Karczweski on the podcast. He has researched LGBTQ+ rights in Poland in the interwar period, and his research showed us that the story is more complicated than you might think. He explains that at the time, Poland was in some ways very progressive by decriminalising homosexuality, one of the first countries in Europe to do so. We talk about homonationalism, what it means and what it might suggest for diversity and internationalisation as FP10 is developed. We also discuss some of the political differences within LGTBQ+ movements - and then we speculate what all of this means when shaping, negotiating and voting on the next European research framework programme.

Kamil's research beautifully links personal stories to tell a political story of the past and today. We had him tell us a few details of his work on the podcast. Links to the articles can be found below.

You can find Kamil here:
University profile
Twitter

The three articles mentioned in the episode can be found here:
“Call Me by My Name:” A “Strange and Incomprehensible” Passion in the Polish Kresy of the 1920s

Transnational Flows of Knowledge and the Legalisation of Homosexuality in Interwar Poland“For a Pole, It all was a Great Abomination”: Grassroots Homonationalism and State Homophobia à la Polonaise—A History Lesson from a Place Between East and WestThanks for listening. Please share, rate, review and follow us on Twitter @Divrespod .

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UK politics are never boring - not even when it comes to research policy (which - let’s face it - can appear quite sedate for non-research-geeks).
In this episode, we explore the recent spat after UKRI announced that in the next REF - Research Culture would count for 25% of an institution's score which was closely followed by a tender to develop indicators to help them measure culture.
That didn’t go down well with a lot of universities, and on top of all that, UKRI dissolved their EDI committee based on governmental critique. That didn’t go down well with the research community.
But we liked the idea - so we decided to do an episode on why indicators in research culture are a good idea - and particularly why we should have indicators on EDI topics - and what they could look like. Unsurprisingly, we think universities should be held accountable in this field.
We also go into some of the concerns about indicators - and address the questions and comments we had on LinkedIn for this episode.
Finally, we argue that this is not just a UK thing. The term “research culture” is travelling to other countries, so we should all be aware of the possibilities and challenges - and have indicators on the topic.

In our conversation, we reference:
Two blogposts by Lizzie Gadd, Stephen Curry and James Wilsdon:
https://www.researchprofessional.com/0/rr/news/political-science-blog/2023/6/A-clap-for-the-Frap.html
https://www.researchprofessional.com/0/rr/news/political-science-blog/2023/10/Plans-for-REF-2028-should-be-debated--not-throttled.html

Articles by Research Professional (Paywall):
https://www.researchprofessional.com/0/rr/news/uk/research-councils/2023/6/REF-2028-changes-send--strong-message--on-equality.html
https://www.researchprofessional.com/0/rr/news/uk/research-councils/2023/10/Concerns-grow-in-universities-over-REF-research-culture-metrics.html

Article by Erin Cech:
https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.abo1558

The INORMS More Than Our Ranks initiative:
https://figshare.com/articles/poster/_b_NWB2023_More_Than_Our_Rank_a_preliminary_analysis_of_signatories_narratives_b_/24278587

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Eva Kagiri-Kalanzi from Scientia Scripta joins us this week to talk about Science Communication and public engagement, working across higher education research institutions and her experiences as a black woman in research management who migrated first to Finland and then the UK.

Scientia Scripta is an ethical consultancy, we discuss what that means along with how to engage universities in gender analysis within research, supporting them to talk about these issues and the concept of diversity literacy. We also branch into a fascinating conversation about a new Creative Policy Development project using mosaics they are undertaking funded by the Wellcome Trust.

To find out more about Eva and Scientia Scripta's work you can find them on:
Twitter: @ScientiaScripta
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scientia-scripta/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/evakagiri-kalanzi/

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Societal impact is increasingly important, and as such, impact is a term that is now widely used across academia and research. Luckily, Julie Bayley, impact guru (and "Murder She Wrote" aficionado), has written a book about what research impact is, how you can achieve it and how we document it.
We loved reading her book - "Creating Meaningful Impact" - but we, of course, had some questions about diversity and internationalisation. So we invited her on the podcast.
We talked about how international collaborations can challenge how we decide what impact is and how it is measured, how to work with Global North/Global South dynamics and how diversity in impact is more than just "who". And yes, a little bit about "Murder she wrote".

To find Julie and the book:

Twitter: @JulieEBayley
Lincoln Impact Literacy Institute website: lili (lincoln.ac.uk)
Buy the book: Title Detail: Creating Meaningful Impact by Julie Bayley (emeraldinsight.com)

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In this episode, we talk to Dr. Alfredo Carpineti, science reporter, founder and chair of PRIDE in STEM. We explored what PRIDE in STEM is - whether it's still important - and whether things are worse for LGTBQ+ people in STEM than in the rest of academia.

That all led us to a conversation about the challenges of the politicisation of LGTBQ+ issues in many countries, internationalisation - and finally, how we can all help make academia more LGBTQ+ inclusive.

Alfredo is good company - and we think everybody can learn a lot from our conversation with him about LGBTQ+ rights in a challenging time.

You can learn more about Pride in STEM at: https://prideinstem.org/
You can follow them on X/Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PrideinSTEM
You can follow Alfredo on X/Twitter at: https://twitter.com/DrCarpineti

This episode is produced and edited by: Peter Xiong

00:00 - Intro

01:28 - Alfredo's background

02:45 - Why did Alfredo found Pride in Stem?

08:58 - Why focus on STEM?

15:55 - Diversity vs discrimination

19:26 - Navigating protecting employees and national politics

33:34 - What challenges/opportunities do you see for LGBTQ in academia?

44:30 - Change starting from universities

49:24 - How do you support an LGBTQ person in academia?

54:03 - End of interview

55:12 - Interview Recap

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Season seven is here!

We kick off the new season by discussing how you can include diversity and internationalisation in research proposals. We know this isn't always familiar territory for people so we thought talking you through our approach might take away some of the fear!

We developed a model during the pandemic that we use in our work to help researchers and research managers get started in tackling what can be a complex issue. We developed a structure and questions to build on so the task doesn't feel daunting. We call it the FLOW model and explain what that means in this episode.

So this time, we get our hands dirty and get practical about operationalising some of the things we have discussed on the podcast into research projects.

You can download the FLOW model here.

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We begin this episode by welcoming the new EU Commissioner (expected at least) Iliona Ivanovo, by saying “Hey gurl”! as only two gay guys can do it.
We finish season 6 with a look back at the first half of 2023 and looking at wins and fails from our point of view. We look at some of the workshops we have run, research policy and other things going on in diversity and internationalisation in research and research management.
And then we look at what’s to come in the rest of the year - for us - and particularly our expectations regarding the new ERA strategy, the next REF and the early discussions of FP10. Because a lot is going on that will set the scene for the coming years - in some instances for many years, and that’s, of course, interesting in a field like diversity that is undergoing rapid change right now.

This episode is edited by Arthur Deligne.

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This episode is inspirational and aspirational as we continue exploring what we learned at the EARMA Conference 2023.

Right before the conference, EARMA elected Dipti Pandya, chair-elect of EARMA as the first woman of colour. So we had a chat with her and Rosie Madnick, the past president of NCURA, and the first black woman to chair that organisation, about the role of representation. Rosie gave Dipti some good advice, and we talked about how diversity and representation will play a role in projects like RM Roadmap and the Agreement on Reforming Research Assessment.

Then we have a conversation with Lorna Wilson, chair-elect of ARMA, and Sapna Marwaha, deputy-chair of ARMA, about their work on diversity within the organisation itself. They presented at the conference, right before our panel, and this was a good excuse to follow up on the episode (Season 3, episode 2) with the then-chair of ARMA, Jennifer Stergiou, who initiated this work.

As always, we finish by discussing what we learned from the conversations.

The episode was edited by Arthur Deligne.

You can learn more about our guests and the organisations mentioned here:
Dipti Pandya
LinkedIn
Twitter

EARMA: https://earma.org/
LinkedIN
Twitter

Rosie Madnick
LinkedIn
Twitter

NCURA: https://www.ncura.edu/
LinkedIn
Twitter

Lorna Wilson:
LinkedIn
Twitter

Sapna Marwaha:
LinkedIn
Twitter

ARMA: https://arma.ac.uk/
LinkedIn
Twitter

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We had the pleasure of participating in the EARMA Annual Conference in Prague. We hosted our own panel, Jakob was part of a discussion table - and we listened to presentations, looked at the posters and had lots of discussions and fun.

In this episode, we follow up on the conference by reflecting on the role of diversity and internationalisation at the conference generally and in specific sessions.

We also have a chat about the two issues that cut through the conference: The RM Roadmap project and The Agreement on Reforming Research Assessment.

We enjoyed the conference, and we would like to thank the people who came to our sessions, the presenters we listened to and all the people we talked to.

Thank you to EARMA for letting us record at the conference.

This episode was edited by Arthur Deligne.

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In this episode we talk to Clemens Striebing about the book that he co-edited called "Diversity and Discrimination in Research Organizations" (link below).

We talked about the difference between discimination and diversity, and why that matters, because often we actually talk about anti-discrimination initiatives when we talk about diversity, and that is making the discussion unclear.

We also talk about leadership and management, and how New Public Management has impacted how research organisations work with diversity.

The books has chapters on internationalisation and countries around the world, so we had a good chat about internationalisation and it's role and finally the role of research managers and administrators in this work.

This is an important work and as always we thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. Clemens and the other writers of this book are doing important work for moving the conversation and the practical work on discrimination and diversity.

We can only recommend you give the book a read - once you have finished listening to the podcast episode of course.

You can find the book here: https://books.emeraldinsight.com/book/detail/diversity-and-discrimination-in-research-organizations/?k=9781801179591

You can follow Clemens on Twitter : https://twitter.com/CStriebing

This episode was edited by Arthur Deligne.

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We don't want to admit it, but it's been a few years since we were research advisors. Not that we're old - not at all, but it's been a while since we worked with funding databases to identify research funding for researchers.

So imagine us getting an introduction to Streamlyne's software FundFit. We found it really interesting and wanted a chat about what it can and can't do, and the potential in FundFit and other software solutions. Luckily, Streamlyne's CEO Randy Özden was happy to join us on the podcast for a chat. And we learn a lot from his insights and his reflections on the future of software in the field.

And while we still think that the core skills are person skills when it comes to diversity and internationalisation, we recognise that software solutions will increasingly be part of the toolbox in the future.

We had fund and learnt a lot, and it's definitely a topic that we will follow-up on in the future. We hope you enjoy the conversation.

This episode is edited by Arthur Deligne.

For more information about Streamlyne do check out their links below:

Website: http://streamlyne.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/streamlyne-inc

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Streamlyne_inc

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It’s absolutely bonkers we don’t talk more about Nigerian research policy!

Have you ever said that to yourself or your colleagues? No! Well, you should.

Nigeria is Africa’s largest economy and the country with the largest population on the continent as well. And in 2050 it will have the 3rd largest population in the world. So an important country that will only grow in importance.

We were slightly embarrassed that we knew next to nothing about the country’s research policy and used the country’s presidential elections as an occasion to learn more, so we had a chat with Dr Mustapha Popoola Ayo, who’s quite the expert on the topic. And we talked research policy broadly, infrastructure, funding and international collaboration. It is an inspirational and informative chat.

This is not our last episode exploring research policies in countries we don’t necessarily talk about in that context. There will be more to follow.

This episode was produced and edited by Arthur Deligne.

You can read more about Mustapha’s new project at: www.s2nigeria.com

You can find him on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mustapha-ayo-phd-01599061/

Or on Twitter as: @greeners_s2b

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Admittedly we sometimes live in a bubble where all things diversity and internationalisation are incredibly interesting and incredibly important. And they are. But how about the research managers and administrators who support researchers in writing grant proposals?

We needed a snap back to reality, and who better to help us with that than Niels Tudor-Vinther. Niels was work with European research funding in different ways for a number of years, several of them as a proposal writer. Now he’s the host of “The Grant”, a podcast dedicated to European research funding. So not only can he talk about his own experience – he has talked to research managers from all over Europe about this topic.

But how do they talk about diversity and internationalisation? Do they talk about it at all? And their thoughts on Gender Equality Plans?

We have both worked pre-award previously in our careers, so we could certainly see ourselves in some of the points.

We had fun and had some good discussions – and look forward to chat with Niels again in the future.

You can find Niels and The Grant here:
Connect with Niels at LinkedIn
Learn more about The Grant at the website: https://www.thegrant.eu/

This episode was edited and produced by Arthur Deligne.

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We're back with the first episode of season six (can you believe it!).

We kick off with a conversation with Julius Wesche about science communication and particularly social media. For science communication to work you need attention - but not all researchers with a minority background like the attention as it can draw focus on their personal characteristics etc. and steer the communication in a negative direction. How do we balance that?
That was the core issue of our conversation that took us far and wide. Julius is a researcher at Norwegian University of Science and Technology and runs the consultancy "Science Communication Accelarator" and the podcast of the same name.
Julius managed to turn the roles and asked us questions - like in all good conversations. We all learned something and we agree, that science communication is a necessity - we just have to figure out which channels to use, and have a support system to catch us if shit hits the fan.

You can see more about Julius here:
His research profile: https://www.ntnu.edu/employees/julius.wesche
Read more about Science Communication Accelerator: https://scicomx.com/
Listen to his podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uO8pxtd1vL7zHBIa7NVpk?si=410eef8f29214b22&nd=1
or at: https://t.co/EB5gIAO25R

You can follow Julius and his company here:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JuliusWesche
Twitter: https://twitter.com/scicomxMedia
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliuswesche/

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When we learned earlier this year about Kevin Guyan's book "Queer Data: Using Gender, Sex and Sexuality Data for Action" we knew we had to have him on the podcast.

We talk about what queer data is and what the queering of data is. The latter probably being less familiar to the listeners. And we talk about the pros and cons of queer data. Why it can actually be problematic for the queer community to have more data collected about them. We talk queer competencies and the central question: Who should be in the room?

Finally we talk about ethics, responsible research and the challenges of open science.

This is obviously a topic that is close to us personally. Still, we truly think that researchers, research managers, EDI consultants and other people involved in open science and science policy can learn much from this conversation.

We hope you enjoy the conversation.

You can learn more about Kevin here:

Twitter: @kevin_guyan
Website: www.kevinguyan.com

Links to the texts Kevin mentioned during our interview:

Jen Jack Giesking. Size Matters to Lesbians, Too: Queer Feminist Interventions into the Scale of Big Data

Sara Ahmed. On Being Included: Racism and Diversity in Institutional Life
Sara Ahmed. ‘You end up doing the document rather than doing the doing’: Diversity, race equality and the politics of documentation

Some non-paywalled links to some of Kevin's writing that speak to some of the themes highlighted:

The limits of numerical diversity (The Skinny, August 22)
The need to look at data’s harmful history (The Conversation, February 22)
Technology and the downsides of being counted (WIRED, December 21)

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In this episode, we take the opportunity to examine the recent European Commission report "Approaches to inclusive gender equality in research and innovation".

In a change of approach, instead of inviting the authors to talk to us, we did our own analysis of the report and chatted about what universities can do after reading the report. We liked the direction of travel outlined in the report and explored why this remains such an important area in higher education research.

Because one thing is certain after reading this report: DG Research wants diversity to be more than gender, so universities should prepare. Luckily our podcast will guide you through the key points and get you ready for the changes ahead.

You can find the report here:
https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/006a43e7-3eda-11ed-92ed-01aa75ed71a1/language-en

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In the episode, we talk to Stephane Berghmans, Director of Research and Innovation at the European University Association.

Stephane was in the room as the "Agreement on Reform of Research Assessment" was written, and we expect him to play a key role in the implementation as well.

We talked about how the agreement came about, why it is important - and of course, what happened to diversity in the principles. We didn't agree with Stephane on all things, but big principles are at stake here, so that's only natural - quite the contrary, it made it a great debate on the future of research assessment, the importance and challenges of institutional autonomy, and of course how research managers and administrators can play a role in the implementation.

We trust this will have a major impact in the coming years, so we were happy to get to talk about it from the outset, and this is surely one of the topics we'll follow closely - and we will continue to insist that diversity plays an important role in the implementation.

You can learn more about Stephane Berghmans and the agreement here:
Visit EUA's Website, where you can also find the agreement: https://bit.ly/EUAWebsite

Follow @euatweets on Twitter: https://bit.ly/EUATwitter

Follow EUA on Linkedin: https://bit.ly/EUALinkedin

Like EUA on Facebook: https://bit.ly/EUAFacebook

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Science diplomacy is a great concept, and one of the things that inspired us to move into this work. Actually Jakob thought about writing a PhD on the topic for a while.

But one thing is talking about the concept - another to put it into action in a time of war as we see now with the war in Ukraine.

So we invited professor Rasmus Gjedssø Bertelsen from the Arctic University in Norway (UiT) for a chat about why the science community cut all ties to Russia if we are so focused on the possibilities of science diplomacy, why we don't see the potential of science diplomacy in Afghanistan, what to think of the "stick to science campaign" and how research managers can work with science diplomacy in their daily work.

Rasmus Gjedssø is work package leader in the H2020 project InsSciDE where he runs a thread on "Power with Science Diplomacy". He is also a working group leader in the EU SD Alliance.

Rasmus had a lot on his heart and we had a great conversation about the broad implications of science diplomacy that we can all use in a world that isn't getting easier to navigate.

W also managed to compare universities to characters in Jane Austen novels in our final discussions - and it's always a good episode when we get to talk Jane Austen.

You can learn more about Rasmus and the projects here:

On Rasmus; www.arcticgeolab.co
You can follow Rasmus on LinkedI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rasmusgb/
You can follow Rasmus on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/RasmusGB
Or on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/RasmusGBertelsen

The InsSciDE case studies are in open access on www.zenodo.org/communities/insscide
Y
ou can read more about the EU Science Diplomacy Alliance at: www.science-diplomacy.eu
You can follow the EU Science Diplomacy at Twitter at: @SciDipAlliance
Or follow the hashtags: #SciDip and #ScienceDiplomacy

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In this episode, we talk to Uzma Sulaiman, associate director of Community Jameel, a Saudi-based research funder.

The opportunity to chat with Community Jameel grabbed our attention as we rarely get to talk to a research funder from the Global South, specifically one targeting societal challenges in the Global South with Global South academic leads. We had a great conversation about their work and the importance of the Global South being a key player on the funding side of international research collaborations.

We, of course, also talked about the challenges of diversity and international collaborations, where there can be some very clear differences in different parts of the globe.

Discussions like these are important to us all to shift the perspective from a traditional Global North perspective and ensure we build effective research collaborations based on equality. The funding landscape is slowly shifting globally, and we should all pay attention.

You can find Community Jameel here:
Website: https://www.communityjameel.org/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/communityjameel
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/communityjameel/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/communityjameel/?hl=en

You can find Uzma Sulaiman here:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Uzma_Sulaiman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uzma-sulaiman-3083122b/?originalSubdomain=uk

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There is no doubt that there are many immediate consequences for women in the US when it comes to the overturn of Roe vs Wade. It almost doesn't bare thinking. But we all should, and Katie Rose Guest Pryal caught our attention with an article in The Chronicle called: "Abortion is a Higher-Ed Issue " (link below).

Katie is an Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of North Carolina School of Law, an author and a public speaker. One of the topics she speaks and writes about is mental health and aspects of mental disability. In her article, she highlighted some of the many mental health consequences the Dobbs decision could have on mental health. It led to a broad conversation that really enlighted us on negative aspects of reproductive health for women generally, legal consequences for all just by talking about a potential abortion and the culture of mistrust the decision can lead to.

The consequences are many and dire, and we urge you all to pay attention to the many things that are going on and support the fight for reproductive rights generally, but also listen to Katie's advice on what to do at the end of the episode.

This is as always a topic we will follow closely.

You can find Katie here:
Website: katieroseguestpryal.com
Article in The Chronicle: Abortion is a Higher-Ed Issue
Twitter: https://twitter.com/krgpryal
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krgpryal/

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We saw the leak, but still. It couldn't happen. But it did.

In June the US Supreme Court overturned Roe vs Wade, the verdict that in 1973 ensured women's right to abortion on a federal level in the US.

In a controversial concurring opinion Justice Thomas basically promised to overturn the right to gay marriage, gay sex and contraception as well if the right cases were presented. So we decided to invite Phillip Ayoub on the podcast to learn more about the consequences for the staff with a minority back ground in academia and whether we should be worried globally.

Phillip is an incoming professor of political science at University College London. Before that he was an associate professor of diplomacy and world affairs at Occidental College, Los Angeles. In his book "When States Come Out" (link below) he wrote about the fight for gay rights in Europe. So he was just the person to ask: What went wrong? But also to ask where to look for inspiration.

You can learn more about Phillip at his website: https://www.phillipayoub.com/

On Twitter as: @Phillip_Ayoub

And on linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-ayoub-7b462991/

You can find his book here: https://www.amazon.com/When-States-Come-Out-Contentious/dp/1107535891/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1457368119&sr=1-1

And if you're not reade for the full book, you can read an article Phillip wrote earlier this year on LGBTI exclusions in political science: https://bristoluniversitypressdigital.com/view/journals/ejpg/5/2/article-p154.xml

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In this episode, we talk to Erika Valenti from Emerald Publishing and Ashley Richard from the University of Manitoba about the Emerald-led initiatives "First voices First" and "The Power of Diverse Voices". They focus on giving voice to indigenous people on their own terms and expanding the notion of what we consider research, with a focus on North America.

Ashley also tells us about her work for her community and female entrepreneurship, and you really get a sense of how important this work is, and how doing this work is not only making academia more inclusive but we're lifting an entire community. Talk about societal impact!

They are both in it for the long game and we have a great chat about the initiatives and their perspectives. We also cover the ethics of this kind of work and by the end, they both give advice on how we can proceed with this work in a constructive and respectful way.

This is one of those talks that show us how working with diversity can have a tremendous impact and how a global initiative can affect a local community if we all do it right.

If you like this episode we recommend you go back to season two and give our episode with Tyson Yunkaporta a listen.

To find out more about the projects see:
First Voices First
Indigenous Voices
Ashley and her team's report on Indigenous women entrepreneurship

Erika's Twitter is @valenti5_erika
Ashley's Twitter is @asderi_
And more of Ashley's work can be found here: @wekh_pcfe

Book mentions:
Erika mentioned this book: Safe Spaces, Brave Spaces.

Ashley mentioned two books:
21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act
Indigenous Writes: A Guide to First Nations, Métis, & Inuit Issues in Canada

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Indigenous Writes: A Guide to First Nations, Métis, & Inuit Issues in Canada

21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act: Helping Canadians Make Reconciliation with Indigenous Peoples a Reality

In this chat we talk to Daniel Spichtinger from Austria on the topic of open science, why the EU Commission felt a need to develop a strategy for international research collaboration, what happened to "open to the world, how to understand " and what is "open strategic autonomy". We discuss the role of science diplomacy in an increasingly complex international world, and of course how minorities should navigate all this when talking about "values".
Since the podcast was recorded the EU has published a toolkit on how to mitigate foreign interference in research and innovation - this really is a fast-moving space! You can see the toolkit here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/news/commission-publishes-toolkit-help-mitigate-foreign-interference-research-and-innovation-2022-jan-18_en

You can contact Daniel on Twitter (@danielsp) or via LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/dspichtinger/

We are taking a short break from podcasts as we do some planning and preparation for the year ahead but we will be back. Make sure you rate and review the podcast and follow us on Twitter @divrespod. If you'd like to know more about the work we do check out our website: www.diversinunity.com

On the one side, social media is increasingly considered a part of societal and research impact in academia and it is a chance for us all to get in contact with like-minded people we would otherwise never interact with.

On the other side, we know that minority groups are increasingly targets of harassment and attacks on social media and that there are risks to using social media metrics as a measure of success and impact.

To explore these issues we had a fascinating chat with Mark Carrigan about social media in academia. He has recently released the second edition of his book on the topic.

We talked about the role of social media in academia, what the more nuanced take on social media in his second edition of the book looks like, why he took a break from Twitter (and why he is back) and finally we talk about the particular challenges of academics with a minority background on social media. We think that the concept of ' context collapse' was really interesting and will use that in the future.

We discuss how to get smarter on the challenges of social media in academia and how pushing minority academics to be on social media requires line managers, research managers and administrators to have in-depth knowledge of the consequences.

Learn more:
Mark's latest paper can be found here. And you can check out his book here.

You can follow Mark on Twitter at @DrMarkCarrigan

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Northumbria University is currently working through the process to achieve the Race Equality Charter (https://www.advance-he.ac.uk/equality-charters/race-equality-charter). We talk to Professor Tom Lawson, Deputy Vice-Chancellor and historian about the approach Northumbria is taking, why achieving the charter is important to them and how it fits into the bigger diversity and inclusion picture.

We have a really interesting conversation about listening and why that is key to making changes and improvements while recognising that the journey isn't complete when the charter is achieved. The work done as part of the process is more important than the charter itself.

Changing cultures in Higher Education, making them more inclusive and giving everyone equal opportunity is incredibly important to make sure that research is effective and international research collaborations thrive.

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Oh, to be in the mind of a research funder! How do they think? How do they work? What is that secret to get that grant?

The secret of course is that there is no secret, but in this episode we can share with you a little about what global public research funders think about equality, diversity and inclusion in research.

We talk to Roshni Abedin (UK) and Ana Maria Fonseca de Almeida (Brazil). They are both part of the Gender Working Group under Global Research Council. Global Research Council is a virtual organisation promoting communication and collaboration among science funding agencies around the world.

So learn more about how they collaborate, what to expect on the diversity agenda, and how funders think about the science ecosystem.

Learn more:
To learn more about Global Research Council at this link that will guide you directly to their Gender Working Group. There you can also find the groups publications that were mentioned in the conversation:
www.globalresearchcouncil.org/about/gender-working-group/

You can follow Global research Council on Twitter: @grc_research

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The lyrics from a famous Danish aid song from the 1980s at some point says "Africa, the country that every child knows". And unfortunately, that still sums it up today.

Even though we know it is a continent and not a country, we too often think about it as one - to the extent, we think that much about Africa in the context of research at all (South Africa being the exception).

So we decided we needed to learn more; more about collaborations, funding, culture and so many other things about how research is developing in Africa.

Luckily, we got to chat with Joy Owango of TCC Africa (Training Centre in Communication). Joy had so many interesting points, fresh perspectives and we also talked about what the rest of the world could learn from research and research collaboration in Africa.

It was so eye-opening and inspiring, and we're sure you'll enjoy it.

To learn more about Joy Owango and TCC Africa:
The Training Centre in Communication(TCC Africa) Follow TCC Africa on Twitter: @tccafrica Follow Joy on Twitter: @joyowango

Links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode:
Science Granting Councils Initiative in Sub-Saharan Africa

Partnership for Skills in Applied Sciences, Engineering and Technology (PASET),

Agenda 2063: The Africa We Want. | African Union

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Representation matters - and in this episode Dr. Laura Heath-Stout explains why.

Laura is an archaeologist, she's queer and she has a disability. We talk about how archaeological findings risk being misinterpreted, the challenge on being queer in an international setting such as an archaeological dig.

But this is not just a topic for archaeology or the humanities - this is for everybody, so we chatted about this and how we work with diversity in academia with a special focus on intersectionality.

We talk about how Laura navigates diversity now that it is so politiziced and where the balance is between structural work and activism.

When not on our podcast Laura is a postdoc in archaeology at the University of Massachusetts Boston.

We learned so much and we promise this is not the last episode on ableism.

You can find Laura here:
Her website: www.lauraheathstout.com
Twitter: @lauraheathstout

Unfortunately, the Disabled Archaeologists Network doesn't yet have a website up and running, but you can request to join their Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/252441182985100) and listserv (https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/dancommunity).

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Happy Research Administrators Day!

To celebrate Research Administrators Day we decided it was time to learn more about how research management and administration looks like from a Global South perspective. So we had a chat with Therina Theron and Savita Ayyar.

Therina is the president of SARIMA ( Southern African Research and Innovation Management Association) and Senior Director of R&I at Stellenbosch University in South Africa.

Savita is founder of the consultancy Jaquaranda Tree and she is the lead of IRMI (India Research Management Initiative), a developing network for RMAs in India.

We talk all things research management and administration as seen from South Africa and India, the importance of international collaboration on RMAs and why you should all come to the next INORMS conference in Durban, South Africa in 2023.

Follow Therina and SARIMA :
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/therina-theron-63a95915
https://www.linkedin.com/company/southern-african-research-and-innovation-management-association

Twitter
@SARIMA20
@TherinaTheron

Follow Savita, IRMI and India Alliance:
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/savita-ayyar-91a20241/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/indiaalliance/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/irmi-ia/

Twitter:
@SavitaAyyar
@India_Alliance

IRMI

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Most watched in disbelief as Taliban regained the power in Afghanistan.

Many Afghans escaped but most stayed behind trying to keep society going and maintaining as positive a future as possible for Afghanistan.

One of them is Obaidullah Baheer, lecturer at the American University in Kabul. We had the opportunity to talk to him about the situation in Afghanistan and how we can best support him and the many others trying to keep universities running and securing higher education for future generations of Afghans.

As we talk about in the episode it is still early, but we hope many of you will listen and find ways your university can support the staff and students in Afghan universities in these challenging times.

Obaidullah is active on Twitter, so follow him for on the ground insights on the situation in Afghanistan.

Follow Obaidullah at Twitter: @obaidullahbaheer

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You just have to admire the five people behind "The Lost Voices". We had the fortune of talking to them about the campaign. They started as a group of London based postdocs with diverse backgrounds who found it difficult to navigate academia and couldn't imagine having a career in research. That made them initiate "The Lost Voices" where they told their stories of race, religion, sexuality, ability etc that set them apart - and how precarity made it difficult for them to raise their voices. They did so anyway, and we are in awe of the risk they are taking, and for their home institutions who have funded them and listened to their findings.

You can hear more about their background and the work they have done in the episode, where we also talk about the report on diversity that the Russell Group published in late Spring this year, and as usual, we talk about how people in support functions at universities can help people whose voices are lost in academia.

If you are as impressed as we are and want to work with them please reach out. We know they are looking for collaborators worldwide.

You can learn more at:
‘The Lost Voices’ national campaign website: https://ukpostdocs.toothycat.net/thelostvoices/
‘The Lost Voices’ national campaign final summary video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR2pbmGa21I&t=1s
Or find all their content and social media channels at ‘The Lost Voices’ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/londonpostdocs

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This has been a long time coming. But luckily we found Gowri Gopalakrishna and Krishma Labib from Amsterdam UMC , and they we're more than happy to be part of this conversation of the role of diversity in research integrity.

They told us about their own research on research integrity (fx the Netherlands Research Integrity Survey and the diversity of the 7th World Conference on Research Integrity), and why some people in the field do not necessarily think diversity should play a role when talking about research integrity.

They also shared some of their experiences of being women of colour in research, and as always we are grateful for people sharing personal stories like that.

Finally, they share how those of you in supporting roles can advance diversity in research integrity.

Research integrity is a developing research area, and with people like Gowri and Krishma working in this space we feel certain it will develop in a positive direction.

You can find our guests at:
Gowri Gopalakrishna: https://research.vumc.nl/en/persons/gowri-gopalakrishna (You can also follow her at Twitter as @gowrigopala)

Krishma Labib: https://research.vumc.nl/en/persons/krishma-labib

You can read more about the National Survey on Research Integrity here: https://www.nsri2020.nl/research-integrity-covid-19 where you can also read about research integrity concerns concerning COVID-19 and vaccines.

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Alfonso Pezella is a mental health lecturer at Middlesex University, and he has been part of the IENE9 research project that looks at intercultural training for nurses and health care workers in Europe with a focus on LGBTQ+ rights.

It was a broad discussion on the role of culture, the health consequences for LGBTQ+ persons and how training can look in this area. We also talked about how this approach can be used in health research collaborations where nurses and health care workers often play a significant role, and how we can use their findings when working with Horizon Europe and the EU Health Programme.

Our talk about internationalisation and being LGBTQ+ led to Alfonso sharing his own story of growing up gay in Italy and moving to the UK. We hope you all appreciate it.

We learned a lot from the chat and we'll be following both the IENE9 project and Alfonso's research closely in the future.

You can read more about the IENE9 project here.
Follow Alfonso at Twitter: @AlfPezella

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If you're interested in our work with diversity and internationalisation in research please visit www.diversiunity.com.

Jonathan Grant is a professor at King’s College London , and we talk to him about his new book “The New Power University”. Jonathan’s book challenged and inspired us, so we had to get him on the podcast to explain how he sees universities changing in the 21st century. We talk about how the world has changed without universities noticing it, and how universities will have to rethink the purpose of universities and how this will affect recruitment and career paths. We think many of you will be interested in our talk about 'third space professionals'. Us being us we of course focused on diversity and internationalisation and the role the two in the new power university. We believe it will challenge and inspire you as well – and perhaps even provoke some of you, but there is no getting around that the world changed – and universities forgot to follow along. Hear what Jonathan thinks is the consequence of that – and how he thinks we move on.

We also covered the report " The China Question", a report on UK-China research collaborations he co-authored. It shows just how complicated the relationship is and it will change in the future to us needing China more than China needs us. Jonathan has some interesting points on that and we discuss the challenges in light of the old and the new power university.

Click to read "The China Question"
Lear more about "The New Power University"
You can follow Jonathan at Twitter at: @jonathancgrant

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If you're interested in our work with diversity and internationalisation in research please visit www.diversiunity.com.

First of all apologies for the poor sound quality in parts of the recording!

In this episode, we talked to Thomas Jørgensen, the Senior Policy Coordinator at European University Association. We invited Thomas on the podcast to talk about “A global approach to research innovation, education and youth”, which is the EUA’s input to the EU Commissions consultation for their new strategy for research, and education links to countries outside the EU bloc.

This opened up a wide-ranging discussion around how we balance effectiveness and human rights in international research collaborations, the role of the UN Sustainable Development Goals and how the changes in international politics have changed the world and challenge universities and researchers in their work.

We draw to a close discussing how we all have to acknowledge that the world has changed and universities are international political actors. We ponder how universities, researchers and research managers navigate this world.

This episode launches around the time the EU Commission's strategy is published - so look it up and see if we got it right in the discussion.

The theme of this episode is much linked to our last episode on the future of researcher mobility, so if you haven't already listened to that we highly recommend you go give it a listen.

Learn more about European University Association and follow them on Twitter at:
You can follow Thomas at Twitter at: @Thomas_E_Jorgen
You can read the policy input.

First of all apologies for the poor sound quality on some parts of this recording!

As the UK announced its national researcher mobility scheme named after after the famous Enigma mathematician Alan Turing to be launched as the new EU mobility programme Erasmus was being launched we decided it was time for a chat about the two schemes and what it would do to researcher mobility and collaboration both within Europe and globally.

For that we talked to Nabil Ali. Nabil has worked as an advisor for Universities UK for a number of years and was part of their Brexit team and today is situated in Brussels working with research and higher education.

As this marks the launch of the two programmes the talk was speculative in nature, but touches on how essential international collaboration is to research and how difficult this is becoming to navigate for researchers and universities.

We were very fortunate that Nabil said yes to this, and we feel certain that researchers and research managers alike will enjoy this conversation as much as us.

You can learn more about Erasmus here.
You can learn more about the Turing scheme here.
You can follow Nabil Ali on Twitter at: @Nabil__Ali__

Jennifer Stergiou is the Director of Research Services at the University of Northumbria and the chair of ARMA (Association of Research Managers and Administrators) in the UK. She took over as chair in the middle of the pandemic, so we had a chat with her about how that has been.

The main reason for inviting her however was to discuss the recent revision of ARMA's strategic plan including a special view on equality, diversity and inclusion (EDI). Jennifer was very honest with us about what they learned about the organisation in a survey, how they have chosen to approach the topic of EDI and finally the role of research managers and administrators in promoting the EDI agenda in research and higher education.

Whether you are a researcher working with research managers and administrators or a research manager and administrator yourself, you don't want to miss out on Jennifer and ARMA's reflections on EDI and internationalisation and how we move forward in research institutions, collaborations and national and international organisations like ARMA.

Learn more about ARMA here: www.arma.ac.uk

You can follow ARMA on Twitter: @arma_uk

You can follow Jennifer on Twitter here: @JStergiou81

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We were intrigued when we heard about the term bibliodiversity and had to learn more. The result was this eyeopening talk with Dr Arianna Becerril-García. She is a professor at Autonomous University of the State of Mexico and executive director at Redalyc.

We talk about the differences in how we look at scholarly publications in the Global North and the Global South, how open access models are the standard in Latin America, how the current models promoted by the Global North are strengthening the current power relations in higher education and how it could look like. And finally, we talk about what we can all do to make bibliodiversity work for international diversity, collaboration and justice.

Since the interview bibliodiversity has become part of our vocabulary and a recurring theme in our conversations and adds new perspectives on the future of international research collaborations.

You can read more about Arianna at her website
You can follow her on Twitter at :@ariannabec

The article discussed in the podcast can be found here:
"Decolonizing Scholarly Communications through Bibliodiversity"

Learn more about Redalyc: www.redalyc.org

In the final episode of Season Two, we chat with Professor Alexander Serebrenik (Software Engineering and Technology cluster, Eindhoven University of Technology) and Senior member of technical staff, Reed Milewicz (Center for Computing Research, Sandia National Laboratories). Alexander and Reed met at a conference in Urbana-Champaign, Illinois where they built on their mutual interests as part of the LGBTQ+ communities. They are currently exploring the role of mentorship for software developers and engineers globally. We chatted to them about their research, some surprising outcomes and what mentorship might look like in this field.

If you would like to take part in the study you can book an interview on this webpage: https://mentorshipstudy.youcanbook.me/

Alexander's Twitter is: @aserebrenik
Reed's Twitter is: @rmmilewi

In this weeks discussion, we chat with Professor Dr Ludovic Thilly, Chair of the Coimbra Group and Professor of Physics at the University of Poitiers. We discuss Professor Thilly's recent work developing HR strategies for researchers based on the presentation he gave at European Research & Innovation Days in September 2020. We talk about career paths and how we need to think differently about the role of a PhD and the problem of postdocs becoming "permadocs".

We also specifically cover the topics of diversity and internationalisation, so we discuss the EU Commissions thoughts on mobility and how an HR certificate like HRS4R can help a research institution think through these issues and work with them to create more inclusive research environments. We also touch on the role of organisations like the Coimbra Group and the part they play in making research environments more inclusive and diverse.

Dr Clara Barker is unique in that she is transgender and holds an academic research post at Oxford University. But how did she get there and what hurdles did she face along the way? In this fascinating chat, we learn about Clara's accidental road into research and how she almost walked away. Now in her academic position, she works to promote transgender voices and LGBTQ+ inclusion across academia. Recently she has supported work by the Royal Society of Chemistry to produce toolkits which enable universities, researchers and teachers alike to ensure they create inclusive environments, paving the way for more LGBTQ+ people to be themselves and succeed in STEM and research more broadly.

You can follow Clara on Twitter (@ClaraMBarker) and her YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/clarambarker).

The Royal Society of Chemistry toolkits can be found here: https://www.rsc.org/new-perspectives/talent/inclusion-and-diversity/resources/lgbt-toolkit/ and the accompanying report here: https://www.rsc.org/globalassets/04-campaigning-outreach/campaigning/lgbt-report/lgbt-report_web.pdf

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To start 2021 we chatted with Tyson Yunkaporta. Tyson is an indigenous activist, thinker and academic in Australia who challenges us all to think differently about the way we live and work. Indigenous communities around the world have lived in sync with the land and with each other for generations and these approaches to thinking and knowledge are profoundly different to what we might be used to. In this conversation we explore these ideas, how we can be more in tune with our surroundings and understand the power of simple and complex systems. Academia and the production of knowledge are key parts of the jigsaw of how the world works and we explore with Tyson how Indigenous thinking can change academia and what that means for knowledge. Prepare to be challenged, we certainly were!

Tyson's book can be found here: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/45449501-sand-talk

Follow us on Twitter @Divrespod and do let us know what you think. Ideas for future episodes welcome too. Thanks for listening!

In this week's podcast, we chat to Lizzie Gadd and explore how bibliometrics, citations and rankings can impact on the diversity of research and the research environment. Lizzie chairs the International Network of Research Management Societies (INORMS) Research Evaluation Working Group. The group has recently examined the role of bibliometrics in the global research environment and has recently published a Rating the Rankers report, more details of which can be found here. The report and other research highlight the challenges and problems of higher education rankings, citations and what it means for diversity within the wider research landscape. In this chat, we discuss whether the current system is an obstacle for achieving diversity in research? We discuss solutions and how we can make changes to ensure diversity can be achieved. It is a fascinating chat, everyone involved in any way with higher education research should listen. There is a huge amount to reflect on.

To know more about Lizzie's work and potential solutions do check out the following resources:

@LizzieGadd (Twitter)

Lizzie's personal webpage

The SCOPE Process

Thanks for all the engagement and support from our listeners this year. We have enjoyed the range of topics we have covered and look forward to what 2021 brings. We hope you all have an enjoyable Christmas and we look forward to bringing you a new episode in early January. Keep an eye out for it!

We are joined this week by Tena Prelac, Research Fellow in the Department of Politics and International Relations (DPIR) at the University of Oxford, who is a member of the Academic Freedom and Internationalisation Working Group. We discuss the rise in self-censorship amongst UK academics, academic freedom and what the role of international research funding, collaborations and partnerships play in this. The importance of academic freedom is explored with practical examples given by Tena to help universities navigate the issues involved. We conclude that although universities do not need to be James Bonds they do need to seriously investigate whether they should develop a foreign policy.

Outputs from the project to date include:
Freedom House report on Transnational Repression and Academic Freedom, by Saipira Furstenberg, John Heathershaw and me: https://freedomhouse.org/report/special-report/2020/internationalization-universities-and-repression-academic-freedom

Draft Model Code of Conduct by the Academic Freedom and Internationalisation Working Group: https://hrc.sas.ac.uk/sites/default/files/files/AFIWG/AFIWG%20-%20DRAFT%20MODEL%20CODE%20OF%20CONDUCT%20final.pdf

To find out more about how you can support scholars overseas please visit: https://www.scholarsatrisk.org/

You can follow Tena on Twitter at: @tenaprelec

Mental health understandings have been surrounded by stigma and a lack of literacy for many years but this is slowly changing. In our conversation with Associate Professor Nicola Reavley, Principal Research Fellow, Mental Health Literacy Programme at Melbourne School Of Population And Global Health we explore how this stigma is changing, what this means for education and support services and what role cultural differences play in mental health. These differences can be important for international research collaborations.

You can follow Nicola on Twitter: @AProfNickiR More details about her research can be found here: https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/186743-nicola-reavley

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Laura Evans from Nifty Fox (@NiftyFoxCreativ) joins us to launch season two of the podcast. Laura started her career in Higher Education by supporting widening participation and student engagement. Through this experience, she could see that it wasn't always easy for her to come out and she felt that many services were missing their mark including missing the LGBTQ+ community. Her experience eventually saw her start her own consultancy company where she supports universities and researchers to tell their stories and translate their research into impactful graphics.

We discuss with Laura what it was like to work in HE while not being out and how this impacted on her work and self-confidence. Since starting her own business Laura has experienced the challenge of working in international settings which have not been open to the LGBTQ+ community and have had a range of fascinating and important conversations with researchers about who is missing in their research. As a keen LGBTQ+ and diversity advocate, Laura's story is fascinating and an important listen. We hope you enjoy it.

Do make sure you follow us on Twitter (@divrespod) and please rate and review the podcast wherever you listen to it. If you have an idea for a topic or guest for the podcast or would like to be on it yourself then do get in touch!

We had the pleasure of chatting with Saskia Walcott of Walcott Communications in this episode. Saskia has had an unusual journey into the research and higher education sector. Following a career in communications and public relations, she joined the Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC). She has also worked for universities before starting her own consultancy company. She recently published an article talking about her experiences as a black woman in research management in the UK.

We talk to Saskia about her career and her experiences including the reaction to her article, the burden placed on minority groups to lead from the front in tackling discrimination and how generational changes may impact on how we create a more equal and diverse research management environment in the future.

Do subscribe, rate and review our podcast. This is the final episode in the first series. Keep an eye out on our twitter (@Divrespod) to follow the latest developments and conversations. We will be back in the Autumn.

Vicky Williams, the CEO of Emerald Publishing, joined us this week to reflect on their recent report, The Power of Diverse Voices, which explored diversity and inclusion in global academia and publishing. Vicky explains how Emerald has worked to increase equality and diversity within the company and how they are now championing change across the sector. Publishing is an integral part of the academy and has a key role to play in making change globally, including enhancing the impact of research. Their recent report had some surprising findings which we talk to Vicky about.

To access the report please go to https://www.emeraldgrouppublishing.com/power-of-diverse-voices

Vicky's twitter account is: @Emerald_VW

Vicky's book recommendations are:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50214741-the-girl-with-the-louding-voice
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41081373-girl-woman-other
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41104077-invisible-women

Check out our own twitter page @Divrespod and do let us have any ideas for future episodes or if you have any questions, comments or thoughts on anything you have heard in this episode then do let us know.

In this episode, we talk to Dr Eric Cervini about his book, The Deviant's War, his life in academia in the US and UK as well as why he is no longer in the academy. We discuss the lessons learnt from the book which charts the fight for gay rights in the US before Stonewall as well as exploring what this might mean for creating a more inclusive academy. The importance of understanding history and what this means for activism today and how it highlights who might be missing out or not included in our work is an important takeaway point from Eric's research.

The Deviant's War, published in Summer 2020, was featured in the New York Times bestsellers list and has received significant coverage in the media.

For more information about the book please visit: https://ericcervini.com/book/
Eric's twitter account is @ericcervini

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In this episode, we discuss a recently published research report from Denmark which was looking at the impact of Covid-19 on minority communities. The results are surprising and demonstrate how discrimination and harassment can manifest in different ways and the ways in which this has been exacerbated during the pandemic. We discuss these findings and look at the ways in which this may have already impacted on the higher education sector, staff and students alike. We talk through what this means for diversity in research and why this is more important than ever.

If you are interested in reading the report we discussed you can find it here: https://menneskeret.dk/sites/menneskeret.dk/files/media/document/Rapport%20om%20had%20i%20det%20off%20rum_LAYOUT2.pdf (Please note that the report is in Danish but there is an English summary towards the end)

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In today's episode, we speak with Professor John MacGrath who is a psychiatrist and professor of clinical medicine at the University of Queensland. Since 2017 he has also held the Niels Bohr Professor at the National Centre for Register-based Research at Aarhus University in Denmark. Professor McGrath specialises in researching risk factors for schizophrenia and undertakes research from his bases in Australia and Denmark. His experience includes working across international cultures and research settings, working closely with patients within clinical mental health settings and providing mentorship to young researchers. In this episode, he talks about his experiences, the challenges for the academy in regards to EDI and what can be done to make research and research environments more inclusive. Professor McGrath can be found on twitter: @John_J_McGrath

Let us know what you think of this episode and tell us what you'd like to hear us cover in the future. Get in touch with us @Divrespod

In a special Pride Month episode, we talk to Dr Frances Hamilton (Senior Lecturer in Law) and Cameron Giles (Postgraduate Researcher) from the Law School at Northumbria University about their recent research into UK Higher Education travel policies and how they apply to LGBTQ+ staff and students. We explore how the research came about, what they found and some of the issues faced by the LGBTQ+ community including legal, social and health impacts. The range of policies and what they include is covered and we discuss what next as the internationalisation agenda of UK universities increases. The lessons learned can apply to universities across the world.

If you want to know more about the research then please contact Dr Hamilton via email at: frances.hamilton@northumbria.ac.uk

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In this episode, we talk to Professor Felix Riede, Head of Department and Professor of Archeology at Aarhus University in Denmark. Felix grew up in Germany, completed his PhD in the UK and has worked in the UK and now Denmark for over ten years. He leads international research projects including an ERC Consolidator Grant, Computational approaches to Final Palaeolithic/earliest Mesolithic archaeology and climate change. We talk to Felix about studying, living and working in different cultures within Europe as well as the challenges and responsibility of leading international research projects from the perspective of diversity and inclusion. You can follow Felix on twitter at: @ARCHAEOfelix and check out his research at http://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/id%28ff428700-8bab-40d1-9d42-886b4ce52776%29.html

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In today's launch episode, we talk through what the podcast is all about, how we met and a little about the conversations we have had, all leading to this podcast. We preview what we will be talking about in the coming weeks with a focus on Equality, Diversity and Inclusion (EDI) and using cultural intelligence to create more inclusive and effective research cultures, environments and international research collaborations.
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Jakob Christensen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakob-feldtfos-christensen-1009934/
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