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Cody Jensen

I'm an artist and mystic living and working in Tulsa, OK. This show is diary of my philosophy and spiritual journey.

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Divorce after 12 years. I tripped on cannabis. I became a mystic.

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Are toxic and unhealed relationships keeping us from growing? In this episode, Cody lays out his theory on why he believes the answer is yes. Drawing from Multiple Intelligence Theory, the brain's Default Mode Network, the evolutionary science of cooperation, mental and emotional capacity, and anecdotal life experience, Sarah and Cody discuss why.

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In this episode of Deeply Curious, we discuss how we all have limitations and capacities in our life and the benefits of creating margin. Learning how to be a better human is a never-ending process. This episode is the first of a series discussing new theories we’ve learned on how to be better at being ourselves.

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In this episode, we discuss a book Sarah is reading, women who run with the wolves. Clarissa Pinkola Estes, a Jungian psychologist and cantadora (keeper of stories) lays out what the wild woman archetype is through myths and legends. What would our society look like if we allowed women to be who they inherently are? How much better would we be if women could occupy the wild space they were created to inhabit?

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This is a bonus episode for those who are wondering where we’ve been and what we’re doing now! We talk about our move from Portland to Tulsa, getting stuck in our hometown during quarantine, and how we’re hoping to move forward. If you’re interested... if not, we get it. 😊

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In this episode of Deeply Curious, we present the idea of becoming what you hate, and discuss what that means, what it looks like, and how to not let it happen. With the year we’re having, we thought it would be wise for all of us to stop and ask ourselves WHY we’re doing what we’re doing. We should all check our motives every once in a while.

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In this episode of Deeply Curious, we discuss the principles of Cal Newport’s newest book, Digital Minimalism, while also discussing some of the best ways to use your free time since we’ve all suddenly got a lot of it.

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Have you noticed how dualistic our culture has become? In this episode we discuss what dualistic thinking is, how dangerous it can be, and how to change it.

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Cody's existential crisis has been averted and, in this episode, he shares what caused the crisis, what led him out of it, and a vision for the future. We discuss the importance of finding silence and solitude, the mystery of the universe that poets, philosophers, theologians, mystics, and artists have talked about for centuries, The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer, and internal narrative vs non-verbal thoughts.

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Is enthusiasm the most vulnerable emotion? Can we truly enjoy life if we care what others think? What are the things that are keeping us from engaging in play? Is irony a symptom of vulnerability? We discus these questions and a couple things we learned this week.

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We are all, whether we're aware of it or not, becoming someone. The question is, are you going to be proud of who that is?

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In this episode, Cody and Sarah discuss whether people can be inherently evil. Do we do things out of malicious intent? Or are most of us just seeking to find happiness and security that sometimes comes at a cost to others?

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In this episode, Cody talks about his continued journey through an existential crisis. He recently read a book that is challenging his thoughts on pursuing greatness and even work itself.

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In this episode, Sarah attempts to make her case as to why you should be reading. And not just business, self-help, informational books, but stories. Essays, memoirs, novels, and poetry. Stories are the key.

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This summer we have driven over 9000 miles, crossing the country almost 3 times. That's a lot of time looking out the widow wondering why certain things look the way they do or why we did the road just make an S curve in the middle of an open field? In this episode we talk about all the random things we learned driving the highways of America.

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Are we all just animals? Did Epicurus have it right? Where does shame fit in to the narrative? We talk about all of this and more with our guest, Amber Day!

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In this episode we talk about a column written by Oliver Burkeman on avoiding pain, whether by being too sensitive or having too thick of skin, and our experiences of being opposites - Cody a thinker and Sarah a feeler.

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We're talking freedom. Is it truly freedom if you have act within the bounds of social criticism? Are you free if you're a slave to your own desires? Have we been truly liberated or just merely liberalized?

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The pursuit of cool. We all know it. Irony, sarcasm, only drinking 3rd wave coffee. In this episode we talk about the pursuit of cool and what it costs us. Is it really worth it?

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In this episode, we talk a little about what we think risk is, how important it is to take risks, and the "risk" we took in moving to New York City, and then to Portland.

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In this episode we recap our experience of taking a 26 day road trip across America. Starting in NYC and ending in Portland.

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In this episode we talk with our mentor and friend, Matt Nelson, about his new book, The Beauty of the In-Between. We do our best to avoid obscurity, but it's often in obscurity that we learn who we truly are. How can we learn to embrace the in-between?

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The last episode in NYC! We talk about what we've been up to, future plans, and why we haven't published a video in over a month.

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We talk to clinical psychologist, Dr. Soph, about understanding our emotions, anxiety, social media, getting enough sleep, and how the fight or flight response is linked to all of these things.

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Sarah just read Fear of Flying by Erica Jong and had a lot to say about it. The book is all about what it means to be a female in America. Set in the 1950s, published in the 1970s, and still true today. So we ask the questions and discuss the nuances of what it means to grow up in America as a woman in this episode.

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If I act virtuously out of fear or hope of a reward or punishment in the afterlife, am I truly virtuous? Do we truly care about certain injustices in the world or are we actually using them to say something about ourselves? Plus, a discussion on twitter taking the joy of everything.

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We decided to move away from New York City. In this episode we discuss the questions that led us to make the decisions, and where we're moving!

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Cody read A Man Without A Country by Kurt Vonnegut last week and really wants to talk about it. So we discuss some of his favorite essays in today's episode.

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In this episode our friend Josh joins us as a guest to discuss the obsession we all have with gear. Does gear make you a better artist? Is there ever a need to upgrade your gear? Are you chasing better gear so you don't have to face the insecurities you feel as an artist? Let's discuss!

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The 2019 World Happiness Report was just published. We read through it and discussed what stood out to us on today's podcast. The report has some fascinating insights on happiness around the world and what factors actually add to your happiness, as well as a few chapters on the decline of happiness and rise of addiction in America.

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What does it mean to live a great story and how can we use story as a way to bring perspective to our lives? Plus, how can earn more identity capital to add to our life story?

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Cody's having an existential crisis, a quarter-life crisis if you will, so he opens up and lays it all on the table.

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Part 2 of Cody's 30 things he's learned in 30 years.

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It's Cody's 30th birthday so we sit down and talk about 30 things he's learned in 30 years.

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We tend to gravitate toward self-help advice and wisdom when we're in the middle of something difficult. But whether it's anxiety or a tragic life event, isn't it a relief to have someone else say "me too"? Sometimes we don't need advice, we just need understanding.

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Cody finds his identity in God but Sarah struggles with the finding identity at all. Is identity the core of who you are or the mixture of everything you are?

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In this episode we dive into our questions and concerns with consumerism, and how we're trying to keep our art free from it. Plus we have an exciting announcement that definitely has something to do with this conversation!

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One of our best friends is in town after living in Australia for over a year, and we have questions! Plus, we get into language, grammar, and many other nonsensical topics.

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In this episode we discuss social media and the effect that it has had on our mental health and what boundaries we need to put into place in order to be the healthiest version of ourselves.

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A conversation with Cody's father about curiosity and pivoting in life and career. Nothing is permanent, but we get stuck in decisions (or indecision) believing they are.

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Is balancing work and life as impossible and illusive as it sounds?

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We're back from a month of traveling and it has us questioning what we want and where we want to be... plus we get into the truth of overnight success.

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We had an international flight and a bag full of podcast gear so we decided to set it up and record this episode 37,000 feet above the Atlantic ocean. Does that mean we're in a nerdy version of the mile high club? In this episode, we talk about being critical vs cynical when it comes to entertainment.

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We had an airline mishap and we discuss the idea of evolving for an audience or if you should be doing that at all. Plus, a convo on protecting ourselves from social media.

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What is self-awareness? How are vulnerability, self-awareness, and the curse of knowledge related? In this episode, we discuss these questions, keeping the conversation a little more raw.

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It's Thanksgiving week in America so we dive into our Thanksgiving memories and give you some conversation ideas.

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Over Thanksgiving dinner they say to avoid talking about faith and politics... so with the holidays approaching, we're going to talk about both!

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It's our 10 year wedding anniversary! We talk about our love story and experience of being married at such a young age.

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This week we discuss why we don't let ourselves and others enjoy things. Do we deserve happiness? Can we really achieve anything we want?

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In this episode, we talk about our favorite quotes. Getting into art, design, minimalism, advertising, fairy tales, and more.

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In this episode, we talk with The Daring Romantics host Lindsey Eryn about faking it until you make it.

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Can you really find "the one"? In this episode we discuss the idea of finding the perfect partner and if there is one person we are destined to be with.

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In this episode, we discuss the effect that talking to loved ones on the phone has on our brain and are we hiding behind irony?

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In this episode, we discuss the phenomenon that is Kanye's tweets. Is he a genius or is he highly creative? Are his tweets nonsense or is there actually something deeper to discuss?

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Is New York worth it? In this episode we discuss our favorite and least favorite things that come with living in this city, and attempt to answer the question many of you have asked.

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We have a special guest in today's episode! John Hill, pro skateboarder and YouTuber, stops by to chat about the notion of "growing up" and following your curiosities. If you are familiar with John, or Cody, then you already know this is a fun episode!

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Today's episode begins with us telling our most embarrassing stories, which leads to recounting some pretty comical dating stories, and ends with us discussing how filming ourselves in public is actually not embarrassing at all.

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In this episode we started out discussing the topic of things going viral and how most things we consider "viral" are actually the results of "broadcast", but Sarah ends up ranting about 50 Shades of Grey and James Patterson which leads to interestingly deep place.

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Things we mentioned: Hit Makers - Captain Fantastic - Isn't It Pretty To Think So - How to Build a Girl

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In this episode we started out discussing the question, "Can you separate the art from the artist?" Which led to conversations about #MeToo, the old Kanye, and some real talk about marriage.

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Story Time: Africa edition! In today's episode, Cody has some crazy airplane stories and experiences from Africa to share with you.

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What should you be doing in your 20’s to prepare for the rest of your life? In this episode we talk about some key ideas from The Defining Decade, written by Meg Jay.

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Continuing the series on personality types, we dive into the Big 5 and what each of the five characteristics is that psychologists often use when diagnosing. In the middle somewhere, Cody gets on his soapbox about why we care so much about what others think of us.

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My video about not caring what others think: Stop Caring What People Think

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In this episode, we dive into the enneagram and give our opinions on why it's the most helpful personality typing system we've come across.

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The Road Back To You

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Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self-Discovery

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The key to good conversations is to ask great questions. In today's episode, we work our way through a list of great questions!

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Content. Art. Are they they same thing, or is there a difference between the two? And why are artists being labeled as content creators now? In this episode, we ask the questions, but don't find any concrete answers. The question is still worth asking though.

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Are you being humble or are you just insecure about your abilities? In this episode we attempt to define the difference between humility and insecurity with a special guest, our good friend Josh Kluge!

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In today's episode, the conversation ranges from Elon Musk & Grimes to the way billionaires spend their money to the difference between revenge and justice.

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In this episode of Deeply Curious, we discuss whether we are glorifying hustle. Should we really sacrifice everything in pursuit of our work?

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Are we allowed to make mistakes? Have we forgotten about grace? In this episode, we discuss what it means to allow people space to learn and grow from their experiences.

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What is the difference between self-care and self-indulgence? Are we actually taking care of ourselves or just trying to escape reality? We attempt to answer that in this week's episode of Deeply Curious.

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In this week's episode of Deeply Curious, we dive into the idea of nature vs nurture. Do we become who we are because of the way we were nurtured as kids, or does nature play a bigger role?

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This episode of Deeply Curious focuses on the ideas from Simon Sinek's book, Start With Why. The only way to true success is keeping your "why" at the center, but what does that mean? And what is your "why"?

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In this episode of Deeply Curious we explore the idea that the subconscious brain craves repetition and in turn, pop music, an idea that Derek Thompson writes about in his book Hit Makers. And Sarah has a hard time accepting that the music industry knows that she'll like their song.

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Inaugural episode of Deeply Curious! We talk about introverts vs extroverts and also about some things we love this week.

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