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The Art World is heading into its summer slumber! While artists dive into their residencies or studios gear up for the fall, the Art World Elite are living it up on their mega yachts off the coast of St. Tropez. Zoe and Chloe will be "working" poolside in Hydra, enjoying cocktails and socializing until mid-July. Everyone's bound to make a stop in the Hamptons at some point...
But don't worry, we'll be back in the fall with a dazzling new look and sound! In the meantime, get excited for this episode of Art Smack with Jerry, Annie, and returning co-host Matthew Capasso as they dive into this week's art news and review Basel Summer Camp (Art Basel). Enjoy!

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This week Jerry and Annie speak to Joseph Foudy, a distinguished Clinical Professor of Economics at NYU. He provides them with a lesson in micro economics with art as the basis. A unique perspective, he gives an understanding of market dynamics, pricing strategies, and the economic principles at play within the art world.

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In this episode Jerry and Annie interview the Icy Gays (@theicygays). Art collectors from North Dakota, Rob and Eric Thomas-Suwall discuss how they fell in love with art, their taste's and how they came to collect the 250 pieces of contemporary art that make up their collection. With a focus on emerging women and queer artists their collection is currently on display in 'Full Disclosure' at The Plains Museum, ND.

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In this episode, hosts Jerry and Annie discuss the fair that screams quiet luxury with their guest Tarka Russell as they gush over all the beauty of last week's affairs. They also discuss The Independent and stand-out art works they saw that day. They also discuss their mother's contribution to their love of art in honor of Mother's Day. Then they fall down a rabbit hole of other trade shows or fairs they'd be interested in attending including Private Jet Shows, Yacht Shows, and gun shows. And finally, Jerry teaches the girls about the subcultural phenomenon of The Gathering of the Juggalos.

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In this episode Jerry Gogosian and Annie discuss the lackluster edition of Frieze NYC and what can be done about it. They discuss the new crop of potential Art Stars coming out of Yale's prestigious MFA program and the ladies question the merits of groupthink at Art Schools. And finally, Annie also gives Jerry a crash course in becoming the Bridezilla.

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In this free-flowing episode, Annie & Jerry reflect on the dynamics of work and feminism, discussing the subsequent challenges faced and the effectiveness of second-wave feminism in light of persistent wage disparities and the increased burden of dual-income households. Then we move on to the idea of "prepping" for the apocalypse, the evil computers that live inside Teslas, and the end-of-day vibes NYC has been giving off.

A&J also reflects on their journey from pursuing art to embracing the business world, feeling conflicted about their choices and the loss of joy in their artistic practice. Jerry recalls advice from a professor predicting the challenges of sustaining an art career and feeling torn between artistic fulfillment and financial stability.

And finally, we take one of the voice messages one of our listeners left. We felt their question would potentially hit home for many of our listeners.

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In this compelling episode of Art Smack, hosts Jerry Gogosian and Annie Taylor sit down with the renowned art market expert Magnus Resch, whose latest literary offering, "How to Collect Art," has been stirring up the art world with its insightful revelations. Resch, known for his analytical approach to the often opaque and mystifying art market, shares the floor with the hosts to delve into the groundbreaking research that underpins his book. Drawing from a wealth of data, Resch's methodology shines a light on the art world's inner workings, offering a rare glimpse into the dynamics that drive art collection. The discussion navigates through his interactions with art world insiders, revealing how these conversations have enriched his understanding and subsequently, the invaluable advice he offers in his book.

As the conversation unfolds, Resch elaborates on how "How to Collect Art" serves as a crucial resource not just for budding and established collectors, but also for artists striving to comprehend the market for their creations. By employing data to demystify the art collection process, Resch's insights promise to empower potential collectors with the knowledge to make informed decisions. Simultaneously, artists listening in will find guidance on navigating the market, understanding their audience, and strategically positioning their work. With Jerry and Annie probing into the nuances of Resch's research and findings, this episode of Art Smack offers a deep dive into the symbiotic relationship between art creation and collection, highlighting the significance of transparency and data in cultivating a vibrant and accessible art ecosystem.

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In this episode, we're excited to welcome a very special guest: Bianca Bosker, a New York Times Bestselling Author, here to dive into her latest book, "Get the Picture." Join us as Bianca shares her fascinating journey into the art world, a journey she compares to infiltrating the mob. Together, we'll explore the complex relationship we have with art, for better or worse, and engage in a spirited debate on the true essence of taste.

Bianca Bosker is the New York Times bestselling author of Cork Dork and, most recently, Get the Picture: A Mind-Bending Journey among the Inspired Artists and Obsessive Art Fiends Who Taught Me How to See. A contributing writer at The Atlantic, she has also written for publications such as The New Yorker, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal. Her work has been recognized with awards from the New York Press Club, the Society of Professional Journalists, and more, and has been included in The Best American Travel Writing. She lives in New York City.

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In episode 2, Annie and Jerry discuss the Cape Town cleanse, swag looting in First Class, and the drunk dialing on Phenergan. Despite facing health issues during the trip and not being able to fully explore the art scene as planned, Jerry shares anecdotes about her experiences, including some of the incredible galleries and art works she encountered while in Cape Town.

Jerry and Annie also address an important issue in the art world regarding the fair treatment and timely payment of artists. Upon hearing her (formerly) favorite Cape Town galleries has a reputation for stiffing their artists, the gals discuss the mechanisms that put artists in a vulnerable position to get stiffed by galleries and reflect on the need for proper contracts and legal protection for artists before exhibition sales.

Additionally, the ladies touch on the controversy surrounding luxury retailer Hermes and their alleged practice of reserving Birkin bags for high-spending customers comparing and contrasting the Art Market to the luxury retail market.

And finally, Jerry takes the opportunity to rip apart Art Speak, again, and Annie talks about the "out of touch" Whitney Biennial currently on view in New York.

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In this episode of Art Smack, Jerry Gogosian and her new co-host Annie Taylor kick off season two with a lively and somewhat chaotic introduction, setting the tone for an episode filled with personal anecdotes, insights into the art world, and a candid discussion about the intersections of art, business, and ethics. Annie brings a rich background in art history and business from her studies in Louisiana, experiences working at an auction house and Art Basel's satellite fair, and her current role in Fine Art Logistics.

As the episode unfolds, does a play-by-play of Frieze Los Angeles, Felix, and all of the parties surrounding last week's celebrations. Annie and Jerry also delve into more serious topics, including the departure of the previous co-host Matthew, who left the art world to pursue more lucrative endeavors, ahem, finance. This episode also introduces our transition adding a video component to the podcast & adding new levels of awkward to the podcast :) The discussion takes a deeper dive into the challenges and pressures of pursuing an MBA, with Jerry sharing personal struggles and revelations about sunk costs, risk aversion, and the stark realities of legal and ethical business boundaries compared to the art world's more fluid norms. This episode's narrative weaves through tales of personal growth, a surprising opportunity with United Talent Agency, and a commitment to making strategic financial decisions as an artist. The episode encapsulates a the blending of art and commerce, and the importance of embracing change and opportunity without losing sight of one's roots and values in the art community.

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Art Smack is taking a break! See you guys in a few weeks for Season 2.

Awita Conference

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On this episode, Jerry and Matt explore the actively underway corporatization & professionalization of the art industry and follow that up with questions related to the apparent artist class structure, and we try to suss out the answer to “Who is the author of an abstract gestural painting if the artist has assistants painting it?” Spoiler alert: We don’t come up with a conclusive answer…Buckle up! We love the way the art world writes itself.

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In this episode, Jerry & Matt discuss Henry Gunderson’s solo presentation at Perrotin Gallery, the Lisa Schiff affair has a juicy update, and finally the Brooklyn Art Museum’s summer blockbuster “Pablo-matic” by Hannah Gadsby and the latest discourse around feminist cringe culture. Buckle up! It’s Spargel season.

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In episode 27, Matt & Jerry travel to America’s Midwest to eat hot dish, learn a new dialect of American English, and explore true “stealth wealth” i.e. hundreds and hundreds of miles of farmland. They also pivot over to a conversation of upcoming Art Basel (Basel) as Jerry prepares to make the annual pilgrimage. And finally, they discuss the recent Sotheby’s acquisition of the Met Breuer building. “For heaven sake’s you’re darn right you’re gonna love it. Oh yeah, you betcha.”

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On this episode, Matt & Jerry lament the perfect ending to the perfect prestige television series “Succession,” (JUMP TO 26:25 TO SKIP SPOILERS), speculate further on the The Lisa Schiff Affair, and break down the new US Supreme Court ruling against Andy Warhol. Appropriation, whhhaaaat? Put your tin foil hats on and brace yourself, this is going to be a good one.

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In this episode, Matt & Jerry wrap up Frieze week, the soft auction results, and continue to delve into the nebulas of the Lisa Schiff saga. Thanks to our sponsor NY State public records for making this episode a real “Chardy Party.” Pour yourself a glass of Sancerre while we spill the tea. Buckle up. As always this is going to be a good one.

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Blake Gopnik's Article on the Andy Warhol Supreme Court Decision

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Jerry recaps her time at the world's premiere art fair, TEFAF. She discusses her oyster-filled adventures and what social faux pas Jim from the Office committed during the event. Matt breaks down the auction results at Christie's. Then the pair unpack the unfolding art legal drama - The Lisa Schiff Affair.

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Jerry and Matt are back after their two-week recess and ready to take on the topics that matter most!

First, a fruitless lamentation on Alex Israel, the Alec Monopoly of the Blue Chip World. (Ivanka and Jared collect him.) What is TEFAF, and why do free oysters mean so much to the over-served art community? What does the word semiotics mean? How did Jerry feel when her invitation to the Met Gala got lost in the mail? We cover what the best party will be during Frieze NYC 2023…And finally, “What is the Stellate Ganglion Block?” Buckle up because this episode could change your life. 

Read Jerry's latest article in Elephant: Art Moves Forward While Fashion Seems Stuck in the Mud

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In this episode, Matt sits down with New York-based contemporary artist Ho Jae Kim. Matt and Ho Jae discuss their time collaborating at Christie's, public bathrooms, the culinary arts, and the need to rethink the literary classic Don Quixote. Oh, and some art stuff too.

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Harper's Exhibition

Civil Art

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by collector and curator Alex DiPersia to discuss, among many things, his unwavering love of beauty, following his intuition, leaving his career in Hollywood for the Art Game, and curating his first exhibition in Paris with artists Basquiat and A.R. Penck.

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ADZ Gallery

Oliver Bak

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by NYC-based artist Hiba Schahbaz.

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Jerry and Matt give their takes on Art Basel Hong Kong (an art fair they didn’t go to) and discuss Jerry's decision to pursue an MBA…but first, Gwyneth Paltrow takes half an hour outside of her grueling court case to talk Ruth Asawa, art dupes, and how reading is overrated.

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by Chicago-based contemporary artist Caleb Yono.

In this conversation, we explore Caleb's prolific work, story, and experiences navigating her career as a gender queer artist: experiences that are often overlooked in the traditional Art World, a place that still seems to uphold outdated values when it comes to the treatment of our trans and gender queer colleagues.

This conversation was as inspiring as it was hard to hear at times, but must be heard. We were honored by Caleb’s candor, and we hope that not only will you give this episode a listen, but that you’ll also take the time to explore her incredibly abundant work as an artist.

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss episode 1 of MTV's The Exhibition (1:19) and unpack the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and what it means for the art world (39:52)

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by collector, dealer, and patron: Stefan Simchowitz.

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt analyze the upcoming London auction SZN, how auctions affect young emerging artists, and chronicle their Frieze LA adventures.

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Ireland Wisdom

David Howe

Jianan Hou

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss the upcoming MTV-produced Art reality TV Show (3:42), and unpack Frieze LA 2023 and the evolution of the Los Angeles Art Scene (26:17)

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt recap some of the recent absurd Op-Eds coming from our favorite news outlets lately (1:44), and discuss the past, present, and future of Art as an investment class (10:40)

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IT'S OSCAR SEASON! In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss congressional Republicans' latest inquiries into Hunter Biden's gallery exhibition (1:36) and cover this year's Academy Award for Best Picture nominees (14:39)

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In this episode, Jerry and Matt recap their trip to the "theatuh" and discuss The Collaboration, a play about the Warhol-Basquiat relationship (2:05). Then, the duo addresses the robot in the room, "art" made by artificial intelligence (26:51). 

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Blake Gopnik, one of the most important voices in art criticism today, joins the show. 

Blake is an art critic, journalist, and contributor at the New York Times. Prior, Blake was the chief art critic at The Washington Post and critic at large at Artnet. He is also the author of Warhol, the definitive Andy biography published in 2020. 

On this episode, we discuss the legacy of Andy Warhol (3:35), the future of Fine Art, aka fArt (20:43), Art that shook us to our cores (28:30), Museums and climate protests (34:32), and where art criticism is headed in the 21st century (46:09).

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On this episode, Jerry and Matt answer a follower's question on Art Speak, discuss the drama surrounding Masterworks, and address the gigantic yellow pumpkin in the room, The Kusama X Louis Vuitton collab.

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Hey everyone, 

Firstly, I want to thank everyone for sending me so much love and support in the wake of my friend’s untimely passing. 

On this episode of Art Smack, I’ll take some time to address it. Again thank you for everything you’ve shared with me in the past few days. 

On this episode, Jerry and Matt go through a retrospective of 2022 (7:28) and make some predictions on what's in store for 2023 (59:25)

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Jerry is BACK! In this episode, Jerry and Matt unpack the Trump NFT Collection (1:26), dive into the results from the recently released Burns Halperin report on representation (14:43), and finally address the elephant in the room: does art media matter anymore? (28:37).

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While Jerry is off this week, Matt is joined by this week's co-host and artist Emily Mae Smith. In this episode, Matt and Emily play overrated, underrated, properly rated (1:22), circle back on the latest updates from the climate change protests (16:07), explore the legacy of the Old Masters amongst the next generation of artists and collectors (25:02), discuss Gerhard Richter's huge move to David Zwirner (34:50), and predict the effects a recession would have on the future of painting (45:51).

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In this week’s episode, hosts Jerry Gogosian and Matt Capasso debate pet ownership amongst blue-chip artists, unpack the absurdity of annual power player lists, ask when is it ok to leave the art world, and discuss the buzziest work from Art Basel Miami Beach 2022, MSCHF's ATM Machine.

(1:24): Jerry guesses which pets blue chip artists own

(5:24): Art World Power Player "lists"

(12:50): When should an artist consider leaving the Art World?

(35:04): MSCHF's ATM Machine

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In this week’s episode, hosts Jerry Gogosian and Matt Capasso play Guess the Celebrity Collector, debate why some objects are deemed artworks and some are not, dive into the Balenciaga controversy, and give a little thanks to the things in the art world to be grateful for.

(1:48): Guess the Celebrity Collector

(9:46): Is it Art or (F)Art?

(31:21): Balenciaga Controvery

(44:27): ArtsGivings

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The Art Basel Miami starter pack is HERE. 

Also, in this week's episode, Jerry Gogosian and Matt Capasso play Picasso vs. Duchamp, question Instagram's new love of OnlyFans, and, in the wake of the crypto-pocalypse, check in with our beloved Ethereum-slanging NFT kings. 

(2:49) - Picasso vs. Duchamp

(8:30) - Instagram's crush on Onlyfans

(18:40) - Checking in on NFTs

(22:30) - ART BASEL MIAMI BEACH STARTER PACK

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In this week's episode, Jerry Gogosian and co-host Matt Capasso discuss #SpirituallyMiamiArtists and explore Republicanism and art. We also dive into the auction results of the Paul Allen collection at Christie’s, pay transparency in the art world, and the virus of Paintfishing.

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In this week's episode, Jerry Gogosian and co-host Matt discuss Anna Weyant's new show, climate protesters at major museums, the Paul Allen collection at Christie's, and the latest edition of the Jerry Report on London Frieze and Paris Plus.

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In this episode, I had the privilege of speaking with Aindrea Emelife, an art critic, independent curator, gallerist, and BBC television presenter from London. Aindrea is an incredibly inspiring and uplifting person to speak with as she has already accomplished so much in such a short timespan. She's young...but I won't say how young! Her most recent article in The Independent ‘There is a lot of hard work to be done’: How the art world can step up for Black Lives Matter is an insightful vision of how to make out our near future as the art world further contends with the issue of race and inequality.

With a background in art history and specializations in the medieval periods of European art history as well as Surrealism...Plagues plus lucid dreaming? Sounds like 2020 to me.  She offered a lot of insight into how we can rethink this moment and use it for actual systemic change. 

I hope you enjoy our conversation. Please send me a voice memo at anchor.fm and tell me what your thoughts on the episode. 

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May 27, 2020

Hello internet, it's Jerry Gogosian. I hope you and your family are doing well in these troubling times. It's been a while since I last released an episode of the podcast. Like many of you, life got real real and I have had to really focus on the brass and tacks for a while. However, during all of this, I’ve had the privilege of reflection. Time to finally start absorbing the reality of where we’ve come to as a species, as a culture, as a community of art lovers, as an industry… The inevitability of change is here and its time to start deciding what we want to do about it. (This is a longer conversation meant for another time.) But, I'm good. There will be several more podcast releases in the coming weeks so you have that to look forward to.*

For this episode, I decided to speak with the artist Kenturah Davis about her paintings and her practice's relationship liminality, language, and how textiles manage to weave their way into the history of human communication. It was truly a pleasure and I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did.

But before we get started, I wanted to announce that after much searching for a quality Zoe + Chloe, I think I’ve found him. That's right. His name is Gunner Dongieux. I decided to record our interview to get your opinion. What do you think? Is he a good hire? Is he a Zoe or a Chloe?

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Kenturah Davis lives and works in Los Angeles, CA with regular trips to Accra, Ghana. The artist earned her BA from Occidental College, CA and MFA from Yale University School of Art in 2018.

Davis recently opened her first solo institutional exhibition, Everything That Cannot Be Known at the Savannah College of Art and Design Museum (SCAD) in February (2020). Other solo and two-person exhibitions include Blur in the Interest of Precision, Matthew Brown Los Angeles (2019); a two-person exhibition with Desmond Lewis at Crosstown Arts, Memphis, TN in coordination with the traveling venue, Seed Space (2019); and Narratives and Meditations (2014)

and sonder (2013), Papillion, Los Angeles. Public projects include Four Women, a commissioned mural by Alliance Francaise to commemorate International Women’s Day, in Accra, Ghana and Metamorphose, comprised of five portraits commissioned by architect Elliott Barnes, featured in Barnes’ installation at the Lâ Exposition AD Interieurs, Paris, France.

Her work has been in institutional presentations in Africa, Asia, Australia, and Europe. Recent exhibitions include Plumb Line: Charles White and the Contemporary, curated by Essence Harden and Leigh Raiford at the California African American Museum, Los Angeles, CA (2019); Punch, curated by Nina Chanel Abney, at Jeffrey Deitch, Los Angeles, CA (2019); and Afrocosmologies: American Reflections, at the Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art, Hartford, CT (2019).

Other notable institutional exhibitions include: Must Risk Delight, organized in collaboration with the 56th Venice Biennale (2015); Linked in Tradition, Inspiring in Vision: A Selection of Works by African American Women Artists, Robert and Frances Museum of Art, San Bernadino, CA (2017); Black Joy, Yale University, New Haven, CT (2016); We Must Risk Delight, at the Accademia di Belle Arti di Venezia, Venice Biennale (2015); The Silence of Ordinary Things, The Mistake Room, Los Angeles (2015); i:23, The Yokohama Triennial, Yokohama, Japan (2014); An American Water Margin, Ucity Museum, Guangzhou, China (2014); Mass

Attack, Torrance Art Museum, Torrance, CA (2013); and Mis-Design, Ian Potter Museum, Melbourne, Australia (2011).


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April 21, 2020

I had the pleasure of reconnecting with my friend Jerry Saltz on AM art radio for a long meandering exploration of art in the time of the plague and the future of art. Please enjoy.

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Jerry Saltz is the senior art critic at New York Magazine and its entertainment site Vulture.com, a leading voice in the art world at large, and an innovative user of social media. He joined the magazine’s staff in 2007, and his writing ranges from cover stories to reviews to quick online commentaries. He won a National Magazine Award for Columns & Commentary in 2015 and was a finalist for the same award in 2011.

Saltz was previously the senior art critic at the Village Voice since 1998, where he was twice a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in criticism (in 2001 and 2006) and was the recipient of the 2007 Frank Jewett Mather Award in Art Criticism from the College Art Association. A frequent guest lecturer at major universities and museums, Saltz was also the sole adviser on the 1995 Whitney Biennial. Saltz has written for Frieze, Modern Painters, Parkett, Art in America, Time Out New York, Flash Art, Arts magazine, and many others. His Village Voice columns were compiled into a book Seeing Out Loud: The Village Voice Art Columns, 1998-2003 (Figures Press). The second volume of his criticism, Seeing Out Louder, was published by Hardpress Editions.

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Big thanks to the Facebook Artist in Residence program (@fbairprogram) for supporting the creation of this content––stay tuned for more..."


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April 2, 2020

Ladies and gentlemen, she doesn’t need an intro from me. You know her. You love her. You love her paintings. Its Chloe Wise! 

I don’t know who needed the “therapy” more today, me or her, but I’m really glad we got to speak. I feel oddly encouraged and oddly like I can make it through one more cycle of the current groundhog’s day marathon aka “the quarrrrrrrr!!!” Its getting WERID over here. 

Enjoy the episode. Don’t worry about the quality of the recording. It's about the conversation.


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March 28, 2020

Today I picked up the phone and called my long time friend, the artist Chris Udemezue. I met Chris in 2009 while he was on vacation in San Francisco shortly after he graduated from the New School. Chris is the REAL DEAL. He wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth or a guaranteed path to success. He's found a way to survive and thrive as an artist by making his own place in the art world. He's equal parts talented and resourceful which is the magic. Since I've known him, Chris has always been 100% himself. He put it all out there to hang out and in turn, success followed Chris...Not the other way around. My admiration for this human being is beyond words, so enjoy our phone call today and remember; its the quality of conversation, not the quality of the audio recording. This is AM art radio!

Born in Long Island, NY Christopher Udemezue has shown at a variety of galleries and museums, including the New Museum, Queens Museum of Art, PS1 MoMa, Bruce High Quality Foundation, and Envoy Enterprises. Udemezue recently has utilized his Jamaican heritage and the complexities of desire for connection, tragedy through personal mythology and public lynching as a primary source. As the founder of the platform RAGGA NYC & CONNEK JA, he completed a residency with the New Museum "All The Threatened and Delicious Things Joining One Another" in June 2017. Also being the lead organizing member of the art collective House of Ladosha, Christopher has shown recently in the New Museum’s “Trigger: Gender as a Tool and a Weapon” 40 year anniversary show and he was apart of the chosen artists in The Shed's Open Call grant program/ show that was on show in the new Hudson Yards Shed gallery, NYC in June 2019.

READ MORE ABOUT CHRIS:

ArtNews

WNYC

Topical Cream

Further references:

Advocate

Recess

The Shed

The New Museum


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March 27th, 2020

AM art radio by Jerry Gogosian (link in bio and don’t forget to subscribe.) 

***Remember, it's not the quality of the audio, its conversation. xx

Emmanuel Perrotin founded his first gallery in 1990 at the age of twenty-one. He has worked closely with his roster of artists, some for more than twenty-five years, to help fulfill their ambitious projects. Perrotin has galleries in Paris, Hong Kong, New York, Seoul, Tokyo, and Shanghai, totaling approximately 7,100 square meters (76,500 square feet) of exhibition space across its nine locations.

Image source: François Halard, W Magazine


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March 23, 2020

I didn’t even record an intro for this interview. This conversation was so inspiring that I can’t even speak. Helen Molesworth just took me on a ride and we landed at hope. I highly suggest you give this a listen.

(This is AM art radio. Its not about the quality of the audio file, its about the message.)

Helen Molesworth is a curator and writer. Her major exhibitions include: One Day at a Time: Manny Farber and Termite Art; Leap Before You Look: Black Mountain College 1933–1957; Dance/Draw; This Will Have Been: Art, Love & Politics in the 1980s; Part Object Part Sculpture, and Work Ethic. She has organized monographic exhibitions of Moyra Davey, Noah Davis, Louise Lawler, Steve Locke, Anna Maria Maiolino, Josiah McElheny, Kerry James Marshall, Catherine Opie, Amy Sillman, and Luc Tuymans. She is the author of numerous catalogue essays and her writing has appeared in Artforum, Art Journal, Documents, and October. The recipient of the 2011 Bard Center for Curatorial Studies Award for Curatorial Excellence, she is a founding board member of The Underground Museum and serves as the Curator-in-Residence for the Anderson Ranch in Aspen. She is currently at work on a book about art, love, and freedom, and she recently hosted a podcast series called “Recording Artists” with The Getty.


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March 20, 2020

A few days ago I put out a story on my Instagram asking to speak to people in the art from Milan and the immediate response was intense! As we know through the media, Italy has placed up to 16 million people under quarantine as it battles to contain the spread of coronavirus. I had the privilege to speak on the phone with Gianmaria Biancuzzi (Milan Art Guide), Flavio Delmonte (Gallerie Massimo De Carlo), & Cordelia Noe (The Art Gorgeous.) They provided me with a glimpse into the future through the lease of Corona’s geographic spread from where I sit in Los Angeles. It was so kind of them to share their perspective, experience, strength, and hope as the tolls of the global pandemic mount. (Thank you guys for coming on the show.) (Thank you for listening!)  

Just wanted to tell you guys that I'm getting less shy talking to myself alone in my bedroom. Pretty soon I'll be an expert and talking to myself, but in the meantime bear with me. Again, this AM art radio. Don’t get excited about the quality. Just focus on the message. Thanks for listening.


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March 19, 2020

"...at the end of the day, we serve our artists." EKV of VSF

Esther Kim Varet, THIS lady – is one of the hardest working people you’ll find anywhere in the art world. It’s true. As the owner of Various Small Fires (VSF), she arrives to work every single day with one fundamental goal: to promote and protect her artists with the sharp team of people she has built to make it all happen. She's progressive, she's brave, and she's responsible.

Esther is making decisions in realtime to determine how to deal with the threat of COVID-19 as its effects ripple out. It has already impacted the lives and business of most people reading this. Her protective and wise measures for her gallery are worth paying attention to and reproducing where applicable. There are digital, virtual, and analog solutions to consider in all of this. To learn about VSF's "touch-free viewing experience" please click HERE.

*Remember this is live AM radio, folks! These conversations are unscripted and unedited. This is how people are coping today, which means tomorrow it may look different! The guests I've had on are refreshing and brave to speak in such a vulnerable moment. I am releasing these conversations one by one and my goal is to connect you with voices that vary. My only rule, be real, be honest.

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Various Small Fires (VSF) is a gallery owned and operated by Esther Kim Varet established in 2012 with locations in Los Angeles, California and Seoul, South Korea. The Seoul gallery opened last spring with a collaborative two-person exhibition of new works by California legends and longtime friends Billy Al Bengston and Ed Ruscha. VSF borrows its name from Ed Ruscha’s original self-published book Various Small Fires and Milk.

In its short exhibition history, VSF has presented the Los Angeles and Asia debuts of many internationally recognized emerging, mid, and late career artists like Liz Magic Laser, Math Bass, Julie Curtiss, Robin F. Williams, Jesper Just, and Diedrick Brackens.

VSF takes social responsibility seriously. The majority of their represented artists are women. The gallery uses 100% solar energy to operate its exhibition spaces and goes to great lengths to reduce their carbon footprint and eliminate plastic by-products.

VSF is also one of the few commercial venues to have a dedicated outdoor gallery for large-scale sculpture and installation. In April 2019, VSF opened a second location in the Hannam-dong neighborhood of Seoul, South Korea. This new ground-floor storefront added an additional 1,000 sq-ft (93 sq-m) of exhibition space in Asia.


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This is Jerry Gogosian AM art radio. Listen in on my phone calls as I try to figure out what is going on in with the world! 2020 is exhausting.

This episode I speak to Sarah Douglas, ARTnews editor-in-chief.

Sarah Douglas was appointed editor-in-chief of ARTnews in July 2014. She has been an art journalist and editor for numerous publications for 20 years, beginning with four years running the US editorial office of the Art Newspaper, after a stint writing exhibition reviews and previews for the New York Times online. Before ARTnews, she was culture editor at the New York Observer, and she launched a visual art site called Gallerist. Prior to that, she spent six years as a staff writer at Art+Auction magazine and its website, Artinfo.com. Sarah has contributed to the New York Times, New York magazine, the Economist, Flash Art, and the National, among other publications, writing about art, the art market, and the art world. She has also participated in and led numerous panel discussions on topics ranging from art collectors’ estate planning to museum funding. Douglas has been interviewed about the art market on the NPR programs “Marketplace” and “Studio 360 with Kurt Andersen.” Books about the art world and the art market that cite her work include Don Thompson’s $12 Million Stuffed Shark: The Curious Economics of Contemporary Art and Michael Shnayerson’s Boom: Mad Money, Mega Dealers, and the Rise of Contemporary Art. In 2013 Sarah received ArtTable’s New Leadership award. She is not to be confused with the English actress Sarah Douglas who played the Kryptonian supervillian Ursa in Superman and Superman II. She tweets at @SarahLDouglas.


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