Beyond The Chameleon: Recent Episodes
Ella Jarman-Pinto
Conversations on Belonging in the Creative Media Industries.
Join composer Ella Jarman-Pinto as she talks to TV and Film industry professionals about how feelings of belonging vs fitting in can be the key to improving inclusivity both behind and in front of the screen.
Date/Episode: S2E8 - Meena Ayittey
Title: Microaggressions, Voices & Action
Description:
Ella and Meena deepen their brand new connection as they recognise the consequences of living with micro-aggression and discover ways forward
Bio:
Meena Ayittey is an award winning film director. From and based in London, her fascination with stories and human nature started from an early age. Through writing stories and making films she has developed a passion for providing a voice to marginalised communities and the voices those who often go unheard. It is this passion that has been a driving force in her work with subjects ranging from domestic abuse, mental health and race.
Her Recent Docu series collaboration Panasonic focuses on dispelling the myths and stereotypes that many African women face. with Her 2020 Black Lives Matter film ‘Mama’ made in response to the murder of George Floyd, earned her several accolades including a nods at Ciclope and awards at AICP, The Webbys, OnePointFour to name a few.
Show Notes:
The joy of recognised voices
The drive behind the work
Meena's film - All the little things
Microaggressions
the mental arithmetic of action
belonging and lived experiences
10 steps
Mentioned in this episode:
https://www.meenamachina.com/all-the-little-things
Listen to the show
Apple - https://apple.co/3tu2E6A
Spotify - https://spoti.fi/33FiobY
Google - https://buff.ly/3nAOnRO
Mentioned in this episode:
https://www.meenamachina.com/all-the-little-things
Find Cerrita:
www.meenamachina.com
https://twitter.com/meena_machina
https://www.instagram.com/meena_machina/
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/meenaayittey
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
Episode: S2 Ep7 – Cerrita Smith – self-definition and claiming space Description:
This week Ella chats with old friend Cerrita Smith and explore the boundaries of curiosity, appropriation and the joy of music
Cerrita at a glance:
Cerrita is a Music Therapist, Musician and Tutor and consultant. She has explored the developmental benefits of music both nationally and internationally and is a proud Northerner.
Show Notes:
How we met
What brings joy
Composer diversity
Music and cultural appropriation
What is music therapy
Otherness
Internal bias
Curiosity
10 questions
Advice for those 10 steps behind you
Listen to the show
Apple - https://apple.co/3tu2E6A
Spotify - https://spoti.fi/33FiobY
Google - https://buff.ly/3nAOnRO
Mentioned in this episode:
Find Cerrita:
www.wecync.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cerrita-s-b3608255/
https://twitter.com/CSmithMT
Who is Cerrita Smith?
Cerrita is a Music Therapist, Musician, Tutor and Organisational Consultant.
She has worked as a music therapist in inpatient mental health hospitals within the NHS for 10 years. She also works in private practice with children, who have experienced developmental trauma (primarily with adopted children) and their families. She has presented her work nationally and internationally and her work has been published in a number of journals. In 2017 and 2018 Cerrita worked in Rwanda, in East Africa, with Music as Therapy International, where she up a music project to support teachers to use music to support educational goals and to develop strategies to support children with additional educational needs.
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
Episode: S2 Ep5 – John R Wilkinson – Empathy, Anger & Getting it Wrong
Description:
In this episode Ella catches up with emerging theatre director John R Wilkinson and shares thoughts on dealing with others perceptions of your most obvious traits amongst other things.
John at a glance:
John is a disabled theatre director who has worked with The National Theatre, the Young Vic and has a passion for dramaturgy
Show Notes:
audio books
who is John r Wilkinson - the role of a director and dramaturg
mediating
allowing for communication errors
diversity or platforming
empathy
listening when angry
questions that shouldn't be asked
getting it wrong
the ten step question
Find John:
https://www.unitedagents.co.uk/john-r-wilkinson
https://twitter.com/johnrwilkinson1
Who is John R Wilkinson?
John is the tenth recipient of the Genesis Future Directors Award at the Young Vic. He trained on the National Theatre Directors’ Course and is currently undertaking research into new work and touring companies with English Touring Theatre, Wise Children, Stockroom and the Royal Court, as part of Arts Council England’s Developing Your Creative Practice.
Direction: Mugabe, My Dad and Me (York Theatre Royal, English Touring Theatre, Audible.com), Bear Shaped and Amazing (Tutti Frutti Productions), Pink Skies… Vinny’s Delight (Manchester Royal Exchange), Hello and Goodbye, Swallows and Amazons, Can’t Stand Up For Falling Down (York Theatre Royal), Talking Heads (co-directed with James Brining and Amy Leach, Leeds Playhouse), Winter (Young Vic).
Associate Direction: NT Connections 2020-21 (National Theatre), Sunshine on Leith (Leeds Playhouse – UK Tour).
He is a Trustee of Stage Directors UK, Stephen Joseph Theatre, Pilot Theatre and Middle Child.
Learn more about Ella - https://www.ellajarmanpinto.com/
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
S2 Ep5 – Keeley Liles – Pleasure, Becoming and Self
In this episode Ella and Keeley share the joy of working together and explore what it takes to become more yourself
Keeley at a glance:
A filmmaker, photographer and teaching artist. Keeley is working on herself and created the Embrace your pleasure documentary - https://www.embraceyourpleasurefilm.com/
Show Notes:
the essence of self pleasure
the art of filmmaking
Loving it when a plan comes together. the joy of directing
stepping into your power
defining the standards that denote belonging
the work of becoming
10 step question
Find Keeley:
https://lovelightmedia.mypixieset.com
https://www.instagram.com/lovelight_media/
https://www.facebook.com/LovelightMediaLLC/
Learn more about Ella - https://www.ellajarmanpinto.com/
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
Episode: S2 Ep4 – Ndrika Anyika– Inclusivity, Boundaries & Collaboration
Description:
In this episode Ndrika and Ella bond over what brings them joy, creating inclusivity and boundaries
Ndrika at a glance:
She/Her
Ndrika is a full time filmmaker who has worked with the BBC and BFI among others and is passionate about telling the stories of the misrepresented.
Show Notes:
What is a DOP?
The joy of collaboration
creating an inclusive environment
the importance of boundaries and overwork, paid what your worth
how is increased inclusivity changing things
working with others
money
10 steps question
Listen to the show
Apple - https://apple.co/3tu2E6A
Spotify - https://spoti.fi/33FiobY
Google - https://buff.ly/3nAOnRO
Find Ndrika:
http://ndrika.com/
https://twitter.com/NdrikaAnyika
https://www.instagram.com/ndrikaanyika/
https://vimeo.com/ndrika
Learn more about Ella - https://www.ellajarmanpinto.com/
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
In this episode Ella touches base with Rufai “Roo” Ajala and explores the world of Intimacy Coordination, Roo’s journey into it and the lessons for our wider culture
"Please note that this conversation explores personal experiences of sexual violence and emotional abuse, as well as the healing journeys of survivors. Below is information in the liner notes about trusted UK organisations who can support you if you have experienced violence - and please know that you are not alone.
https://mindlinetrans.org.uk
https://www.mind.org.uk
https://www.safeline.org.uk
https://www.mankind.org.uk
https://www.refuge.org.uk
https://www.womensaid.org.uk
https://rapecrisis.org.uk
https://lgbt.foundation
Rufai at a glance:
They/Them
Rufai has journeyed from troubled beginnings and in an epic journey of self-discovery and healing from trauma, is now a cinematographer and lighting technician and a trained Intimacy Coordinator. They have a passion for safeguarding especially as it pertains to Queer Trans and Non-Binary Gender people of colour
Show Notes:
The dichotomy of finding joy in your work
Mitigating harm
Making peace with yourself
Bitterness and anger
An unexpected route into the industry – from troubled youth, to industry professional and Intimacy coordination
Healing through the work & support
Safeguarding & vulnerability on set
Mechanics of IC Boundaries –
Belonging to yourself
To kiss or not to kiss – permissions & consents
The 10 step question
Listen to the show
Apple - https://apple.co/3tu2E6A
Spotify - https://spoti.fi/33FiobY
Google - https://buff.ly/3nAOnRO
Find Rufai:
http://intimacyconsultancy.com/
https://www.instagram.com/rufaiajala/
https://www.instagram.com/intimacywithroo
https://rufaiajala.com/
Learn more about Ella - https://www.ellajarmanpinto.com/
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
Episode: S2 Ep2 – Caitlin McNamara – self-definition and claiming space
Description:
This week Ella chats with the incredibly versatile writer and campaigner Caitlin McNamara. They explore their perspectives on privilege, belonging, societal value and knowing your worth.
Caitlin at a glance:
Caitlin is currently writing her first radio documentary (airing on BBC Radio 4 in April 2022), working as Director of Jude Kelly Studios, and campaigning on legal reform to better prosecute gender-based violence.
Show Notes:
The mundanity of joy
the limitations of self labelling
work denoting societal value
Belonging, Privilege and claiming your space
Cynicism, belonging in a female space and Woman of the year award
money, women, finance & knowing your worth
Activism and Money
Quotas
Advice for those 10 steps behind you
Mentioned in this episode:
https://www.judekellystudio.com/
The Body is not an Apology
Find Caitlyn:
www.caitlinmaymcnamara.com
https://www.instagram.com/caitlinmaymcnamara
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
In the first episode of Season 2 Ella chats with Nomi Abadi about abuse, experiences of harassment in the workplace. They cover themes of trauma survival and the importance and difficulty of speaking up. Show Notes
The joy kids bring to inspiring work & working as a female composer with kids Being a female composer The Female Composer Safety League and the sadness of its necessity. Surviving trauma and harassment in the workplace The dynamics and consequences of disbelieving women The mechanics of and responses to predation Speaking out The Nory Keytar The 10 step Question Bio Nomi is a Grammy®-nominated virtuoso pianist, singer, composer, activist, and inventor of the NORY® double keytar, She toured and performed as a guest soloist around the world as a child prodigy As a composer, Nomi has made music for over a dozen films and video games in America and Europe As a trauma survivor, Nomi formed the Female Composer Safety League, a nonprofit focused on creating safety and equality for composers of disenfranchised genders and race in the audio industry. In late 2019, Nomi made her debut as a writer and director of the film, Roadkill, which she starred in. Find Nomi - https://nomiabadi.com/ For more information about working with Ella as a composer, or to be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk.
This podcast was produced by RogueSpirit Productions - message to see how they can help you produce your podcast - david@roguespirit.co.uk
Beyond The Chameleon Season 2 - The Conversation Continues
Ella shares her experiences of the last year weaving it into her excitement and anticipation for the coming Season
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella speaks to Rebecca Olayinka, a Social Worker and advocate for Black children who have been in care. Rebecca is also an author and poet, with her latest poem featured in “I’m speaking now: Black Women Share Their Truth in 101 Stories of Love, Courage and Hope”.
This episode was recorded during the UK’s January lockdown.
Follow Rebecca in Instagram: @an_author_called_rebecca
And on twitter: @RebeOlayinka
Facebook: www.facebook.com/RebeccaOlayinka
LinkedIn: Rebecca Olayinka
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some behind the scenes insights, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella as a composer, or to be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk. To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella speaks to Iris Gibson, freelance filmmaker & video content creator with over 10 years of experience in the video production industry. They chat about going freelance, gender balance in the film industry, and why we should all go to Vienna!
Find Iris’ website here: https://www.crafted-films.co.uk/
And follow her on linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iris-gibson-151b91119/?originalSubdomain=uk
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some behind the scenes insights, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella as a composer, or to be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk. To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella speaks to radio producer, host, consultant and champion of women classical composers Elizabeth de Brito, about her innovative radio show ‘The Daffodil Perspective’. They talk about representation in classical music, how large organisation can improve the ways they think about inclusion, and what it’s like to run a radio show as a volunteer.
Find Elizabeth’s show here: https://thedaffodilperspective.com
And follow her on Linkedin: @https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethdebrito
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some behind the scenes insights, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella as a composer, or to be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk. To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
This episode was recorded in October 2020.
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella speaks to actor, producer and creative director Sly Livingstone about his short film, Be Kind, and his upcoming project Deaf Stories. Inspiring others through accessible storytelling is Sly’s mission, and they talk about mental health, coping with lockdown and imposter syndrome in the creative industries.
Follow Sly on Instagram: @be_kind_productions
LinkedIn: https://tinyurl.com/yabg666y
Twitter: @slyproductions1
Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deafstories/deaf-stories?ref=project_link
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some behind the scenes insights, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella as a composer, or to be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk. To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella speaks to award-winning expert in Early Years education and children’s media, and creator of the CBeebies hit series,JoJo and Gran Gran, characters.
This interview took place as part of the promotion for the Secret Story Draw
Check out Laura's Podcast here
If you would like to work with Ella as a composer, or be featured on the podcast, visit www.ellajarman-pinto.co.uk
If you’ve enjoyed the podcast, please support Ella here
Today, in Beyond The Chameleon, Ella talks to Olivia Dickinson, a member of the Let Toys Be Toys campaign. Olivia has 20 years’ experience in children’s media, across Amazon, the BBC, Nickelodeon and Sky Kids. She specialises in digital media for kids, but also in challenging gender inequalities in childhood and education.
In this conversation, they talked about parenting and how we can change things as consumers, by talking to our children and challenging what is presented to us on the screen.
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Mim Lucy and Pauline Blanchet from Aral Productions. They’re currently crowdfunding their documentary, ‘Beyond The Red Light’, that will shine a light on the sex workers demanding for sex work to be recognised as work in order to access labour rights, whilst also challenging the discrimination and violence that exists within the industry.
The sex workers rights movement advocates for the decriminalisation of sex work, and the abolishment of all laws that exist to further exploit them.
Follow Pauline, Mim and Aral Sea Productions on Instagram:
@beyondtheredlightfilm
@aralsea.productions
@paulyblanchet
@cheekymim
And Twitter:
@BTRL_film
@Aralseaprod
@blanchetpauline
And check out their project: greenlit.fund/project/beyond-red-light
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe, rate, review and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Akin Akinsiku - a Bafta award winning director at Five Apples and The Department Of Image Creative Studio. Akin is also a branding creative director who likes to tell meta-narratives in colour, pictures and sound, and the co-creator/co-writer of BBC award winning, preschool drama Apple Tree House.
In this episode, they talked about sensitive, and vital topics regarding inclusivity, racism, the black community, politics, and privilege. I invite you to join them!
If you want to hear more from Akin, you can follow him on Instagram - @iamakinsiku & @thedepartmentofimage. And check out his website akinsiku.com.
If you're interested in joining MEWE360, visit: mewe360.com
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Mandisi Sibanda, a 21-year-old film director, producer, and scriptwriter. In 2019, he started his own black-owned film production studio called Mansta Productions and his films are available on Amazon Prime. They had a wonderful conversation about the film industry, the feeling of belonging, the BLM movement, career and money, and of course, future projects.
If you want to hear more from Mandisi, you can follow his work on Instagram - @manstaproductions
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe and follow Ella on Instagram, Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Shabnam Rezaei from Big Bad Boo Studios. They talk about the importance and challenges of creating content that is inclusive for children.
Big Bad Boo Studios is dedicated to producing and distributing children’s content that is inclusive, entertaining and high quality. Their animated TV shows air in over 120 countries, and they can also be found on Hulu, and Amazon Prime.
For more information, visit their website - https://www.bigbadboo.com
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe and follow Ella on Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Nicole Lieberman and Liza van der Smissen. They talk about creating community and celebrating differences as females in the film industry.
They are the creators behind the Female Film Club, an online networking platform for female filmmakers from all around the globe. The members come from different backgrounds, and different stages in their careers, but they all have the same goals: connect, support, and share.
If this sounds interesting to you, you can join the Female Film Club here.
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe and follow Ella on Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto
Hi, I'm Ella, and this is Beyond The Chameleon: Conversations on Belonging in the Creative Media Industries. I am creating this podcast to talk to other like-minded people in the creative media industries about how we find ourselves, how we can create space for others, and how we can make the industry more inclusive.
It's only when we can truly feel a sense of belonging, that we have the capacity and power to welcome others authentically who are different from us and to really listen, see, welcome and empower others.
‘Belonging’ is our starting point and we can head in whatever direction feels best.
Don’t miss the next episode, remember to subscribe and follow Ella on Facebook, Linkedin and Twitter - you can expect to see some of the behind the scenes of the podcast, and narratives about working in the media industry.
For more information about working with Ella, visit her website.
To support the podcast, donate via buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto