The Veterinary Project Podcast: Recent Episodes

The Veterinary Project Podcast

A show made by vets, featuring absolutely no pets!

The Veterinary Project Podcast sheds no hair, just light, on the areas of life that we believe the veterinary community should have a pulse on.

From enjoying the good days in the clinic to handling the tough ones - from personal improvement to professional development - from managing your money to investing in your future, we provide a veterinarian's view on a life well-lived.

Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. Stethoscopes allowed, headphones preferred!

Today, we turn the final page on our current podcast journey, reflecting on the powerful connections, insights, and growth we've experienced over the past four years.

As we close this chapter with mixed emotions, we celebrate the community we've built, the conversations that have changed us, and the knowledge we've shared across the globe.

Though this podcast is concluding in its current form, our commitment to the veterinary profession and our personal paths of impact and investment remain unwavering. The lessons learned here will continue to influence the incredible work ahead.

We extend our deepest gratitude to everyone who’s shared in this adventure, whether it be the guests, our listeners, or behind-the-scenes individuals who have made it all possible.
Stay passionate, stay curious, and until we cross paths again, keep leading with compassion and drive. Goodbye, for now.

Here are three key takeaways from our final episode, “The End”:

🌟 Growth and Change: Embracing new paths is vital for personal and professional evolution. Both hosts are redirecting their energy towards family priorities and fresh business ventures, demonstrating the power of refocusing life’s commitments.

💡 Value of Masterminds: The importance of finding your tribe was highlighted. Cultivating relationships with peers who champion your success can have a profound impact on clarity and growth in all aspects of life.

🤝 Authenticity in Content Creation: The journey of the podcast underscored the significance of staying true to one's values, producing content that resonates on a personal level rather than striving for external validation through monetization or sponsorship.

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Tune in to our latest gripping discussion with Dr. Jordan Woodsworth where the veil on veterinary mishaps is lifted. Hosts Dr. Mike Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht delve into the seldom-discussed reality of medical errors within veterinary practices.

In a transparent conversation, Dr. Woodsworth shares valuable insights, including a personal account that addresses the complexities of handling medical mistakes with grace and professionalism.

Key Takeaways:

Communication is Crucial: Whether with clients or your team, clear and empathetic communication is vital. It's about balancing truth and transparency with the compassion needed to maintain trust and rapport.
Learning from Errors: Acknowledging and documenting medical mistakes can turn a negative event into a learning opportunity. It lays the groundwork for supportive practices like "morbidity and mortality rounds" which can foster team unity and improve procedures.
Support Systems Matter: Discussing medical errors can take a toll on mental health. Establishing a solid support system, both personally and within the clinic, is essential for dealing with the emotional repercussions of these events.

Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.

Gold Standard vs. A Spectrum of Care: The discussion dives into the evolution of veterinary care standards, challenging the "one-size-fits-all" approach and exploring more individualized treatment plans, especially in scenarios with limited client funds.

In our latest episode, Dr. Jordan Woodsworth, our resident veterinary communications expert, returns to share invaluable insights from the frontlines. In this conversation, the trio dive into the art of client communication, the financial and emotional intricacies of animal care, and the importance of a solid support system for graduates.

Dr. Woodsworth urges vets to respect the gold standard but also to embrace flexibility, ensuring treatments match client capabilities and patient needs. For those grappling with industry pressure, our discussion offers a beacon of clarity, compassion, and real-world advice. Discover how to navigate the gray areas of practice with confidence on this unmissable episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast.

Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.

In this dynamic episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast, hosts Mike Bugg and Jonathan Leicht dig into the intricacies of managing and growing a successful veterinary clinic. This candid discussion is an essential listen for both aspiring owners and veterans alike in the veterinary field looking to make real impact.

In this episode, we examine:

The tough decisions essential for business building
Maintaining harmony between business needs and team member well-being
Mastery over business numbers for strategic growth
The challenges and trade-offs encountered in scaling operations
The power of community impact and its role in business
The importance of strong team dynamics, financial savvy, and technological adaptation in veterinary practices

For those eager to deepen their understanding or even have a transformative conversation about their career path, Jonathan’s offer to talk is not to be missed. Tune in to garner wisdom that could very well shape the future of your veterinary practice.

Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, watch full episodes on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.

In this episode, we delve deep into a conversation around all things anxiety with Tim Collins.

Tim opens up about the intertwining of personal well-being and professional success, the mental burdens that come with high performance, and his journey toward embracing simplicity and flexibility. You won’t want to miss this candid and vulnerable discussion!

In this episode, we discuss:

Anxiety as an early warning system
Embracing simplicity; trading possession for peace of mind
Tactical tools to tackle acute anxiety
Diving into aligned discomfort

Be sure to check out “The Anxiety Podcast” by Tim JP Collins and follow Tim here: @timjpcollins

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In this episode we explore the high emotional stakes of our profession and the need for courageous conversations. Philip reminds us that fulfillment transcends career accomplishments, challenging us to reflect on our internal dialogues. He shares stories of personal awakening and the critical role of self-compassion. Join us in this episode as we confront the uncomfortable but necessary questions and push towards a future aligned with our true selves. The veterinary community needs more of these discussions!

In this episode you’ll be challenged with such questions as:

What is the REAL cost of not changing?
What is your “back pocket” idea?
Is your greatest work yet to come?
What stories are you telling yourself?

Check out Philip’s resources at www.philipmckernan.com or on social media @philip_mckernan.

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Feeling the weight of public opinion? Dr. Marissa admits to imposter syndrome yet stands tall. Personal branding means sticking to your values, despite ‘the noise’.

In this episode, Dr. Marissa opens up about the challenges she's faced from dealing with criticism to managing a multifaceted career. Her insights into maintaining a work-life balance and how she juggles her roles at Fairlife and her personal brand will leave you inspired to find your own path.

Dr. Marissa Hake is a proud Michigan native, deeply rooted in her educational experiences at Michigan State University, where her journey in veterinary medicine and public health blossomed. Her spirit is evident as she spills her enthusiasm for her alma mater, where she completed her undergraduate, graduate, and veterinary degrees.

After wrapping up her studies in 2015, she traded in the familiar landscapes of Michigan for new horizons in Northwest Ohio, embracing the rich heritage of her husband's family as multi-generational farmers.

Marissa's veterinary career began with a focus on the foundational stage of animal husbandry, specializing in calf care during her first five years in practice. Her dedication and expertise in this area have contributed to the wellbeing and growth of countless calves, weaving her own legacy into the fabric of agricultural life.

Marissa is passionate about communicating with consumers about modern agriculture through her personal social media accounts:

@CalfVet_ on Instagram

@CalfVet on Facebook

https://www.drhakecalfvet.com/

Her full-time job is working for Fairlife (the milk brand!) as the Director of Animal Welfare and Sustainable Farming. Additionally, she has a beef cow herd of British White Cattle. She spends her days balancing being a farmer's wife, boy mom, Veterinarian, and Beef Producer!

Check out our website at theveterinaryproject.com for more info about the show, our hosts, and all things Veterinary Project, or follow us on Instagram @theveterinaryproject.

We're diving deep into the world of health and wellness with our esteemed guest, Ryan Kennedy. Ryan is a Functional Medicine Practitioner and Board-Certified Clinical Nutritionist as well as a passionate advocate for holistic health practices and a beacon of knowledge for those seeking a healthier, more vibrant life.

In this conversation, we dive into:

Optimizing sleep
Sensible sun exposure (and alternatives)
The Sauna Effect
Should you take the Cold Plunge?
How breathwork transforms lives
Why Identity is the key to long term behavior change

Check out Ryan’s resources at ryankennedyhealth.com, on Instagram @ryanckennedy, and his own podcast "The Ryan Kennedy Show."

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In the finish to 2023, Dr. Mike Bugg and co-host Dr. Jonathan Leicht dive deep into the heart of veterinary entrepreneurship. They unwind the threads of downtime vs. vacation, pondering the merits of unstructured time, and how books like "The Road Less Stupid" and "The Psychology of Money" can reshape your business mindset at this time of new years’ renewal.

Topics covered today include real estate, Bitcoin's upcoming halving, the nuances of current and future veterinary industry trends; where demands, regional needs, and customer value are ever-evolving. We reflect on our podcast milestones, guest diversity, and our gratitude to you, our listeners. So whether you're scaling your practice, balancing the books, or just taking a breath this Christmas, join us on this journey to harness challenges into triumphs in both life and business. Stay curious, stay informed, and stay tuned for what’s ahead. Here’s to growth, here’s to resilience, here’s to the future of veterinary entrepreneurship!

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Described as one of the most sought-after, engaging, thought-provoking, and truly transformative international speakers and scholars in her field, Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe is a multi-award-winning education and psychology scholar, author, and resiliency expert.

She specializes in resiliency, navigating stress and change, personal wellness in the workplace, and optimal performance - both personal and organizational.

With over 18 years of university teaching and research experience, and as a multi-time TEDx Talk speaker, Dr. Robyne continues to create accessible and relatable materials while offering practical strategies that are realistic and sustainable.

Dr. Robyne recently joined a group of highly esteemed authors from around the globe as a 2022 Nautilus Award recipient with her debut book 'Calm Within The Storm: A Pathway to Everyday Resiliency.' Dr. Robyne has recently released her second book, Stress Wisely: How To Be Well In An Unwell World in June 2023.

In our conversation with Dr. Hanley-Dafoe, we cover:

Is the world actually unwell?
Social media - comparison masked as connection, and understanding the dual truth contained within
What does it mean to 'stress wisely'
Our biology is built on a stress system
The concept of an emotional home
"Do you want comfort or solutions?"
Eye-to-eye vs. ear-to-ear communications
Tips for communication in the digital world
Understanding your personal threshold tolerance and how it shifts
How to 'raise your thermostat' through embracing a new identity
How to take steps in the right direction to relieve anxiety
The 8 realms of wellness
Your success leaves clues...pay attention to what worked in the past for you

Thank you to Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe for joining us once again on the show!

If you'd like to connect with Robyne, the best place to go is her website:

www.drrobyne.ca

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Dr. Emily Singler is a 2001 graduate of Penn State University and a 2005 graduate of University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine. She has navigated 4 pregnancies while working in veterinary clinical practice and has been a working mom throughout the majority of her tenure as a veterinarian.

Her career in veterinary medicine has included experience in shelter medicine, private practice, and as a relief veterinarian. She currently works as a veterinary writer, consultant, and mentor and enjoys writing for both pet owners and veterinary professionals. Her writing interests include public health, preventive medicine, the human-animal bond, and life as a working mom.

She is the author of Pregnancy and Postpartum Considerations for the Veterinary Team, which is being published by CRC Press in November 2023. She has spoken both virtually and in person on working in veterinary medicine through pregnancy and beyond, with an emphasis on navigating workplace hazards, workplace protections against discrimination, planning parental leave, and returning to work. Currently, she is working toward becoming a RETAIN certified parental leave coach.

Emily is a mom of four kids, 2 dogs, and 1 cat. She enjoys spending time with her husband and kids, and she loves horseback riding and all things llama and alpaca. She is learning to embrace the chaos of having a big family and finds solace in connecting with others and eating chocolate.

**If you want to jump straight to the interview, skip ahead to 12:40!

After some always enjoyable banter time from Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht on everything from ChatGPT to video games, the conversation with Dr. Singler takes off covering:

The genesis of Emily's book
Why she decided to write a book
Researching the risks during pregnancy while working in practice
Discussion around leave to handle newborn care responsibilities
Considerations for non-birthing parents
Announcing a pregnancy in the workplace
How potential workplace discrimination arises
Navigating the challenges on veterinary teams that arise with pregnancy, parental leave, and child care
Emily's Impact Round

Thank you to Dr. Emily Singler for joining us on the show and sharing her message and insights on this important topic.

To order Dr. Singler's book, you can find it online here:

www.emilysinglervmd.com

https://www.amazon.com/Pregnancy-Postpartum-Considerations-Veterinary-Team/dp/1032524979

To connect with Dr. Singler, you can find her in the following places:

www.emilysinglervmd.com

@emilysinglervmd

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Dr. Jenna Donaldson graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College in 2013 and has been working as an equine ambulatory veterinarian ever since.

She has practiced in Alberta, New York and southern Ontario. Today, she is a partner at Rotenberg Veterinary, an equine mobile practice based in Schomberg, ON.

Through her years working at a variety of different practices, Jenna has developed a passion for creating a sustainable work environment for equine veterinarians.

In 2022, she launched Trillium Equine Veterinary Services providing after-hours mobile emergency care to horses in southwestern Ontario.

Trillium Equine's focus is to improve the quality of life of equine vets, allowing them to stay in practice longer than might have been possible with typical on-call requirements.

In this wide-ranging conversation with Jenna we cover

The journey from graduation to working as an associate to becoming a partner
The partnership buy-in process
Building a great team and why it matters when buying-in to a practice
Difference between being an employee and an owner
Starting up a "side-hustle" in Trillium Equine to solve a need in the marketplace
Jenna's Impact Round!

Thank you to Jenna for joining us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Jenna, you can find her through Trillium Equine Veterinary Services online in the following places:

@trilliumequine

https://trilliumequine.ca/

https://www.facebook.com/trilliumequine

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Elaine Froese has coached over 1000 families helping decrease their anxiety over the uncertainty of their future. She has authored 5 books, and written a column for 27 years in Grainews, and is seen in Progressive Dairy and Spud Smart magazine.

She’s a Wilson Loree Excellence in Farm Management award winner, who provides practical tools and roadmaps to find fairness in farm transition.

Froese Family Farms near Boissevain in Southwestern Manitoba is her home base, where she farms with her husband, son, and daughter in law. At 66, her succession plan is building a team of 7 coaches to replicate her work.

Faith Today magazine calls her “Canada’s Farm Whisperer”.

CBC radio calls her the “Dr. Phil for farmers. “

Penny, Ruby, and Read call her “Gramma.”

Elaine understands the culture of agriculture and is gifted at helping folks see great outcomes and workable paths for their family farms.

Her mission is to help families find harmony through understanding.

Who is Elaine Froese
The FAIR model for making transitions
Workplace culture, values, and making decision
Tools for discussing tough issues
Making clear your expectations and getting your needs met
How things change (financially) and what the career focus should be in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, or 60s
All things start with the question, "what do you want?"
Mic-drop moments that you'll want to note
Elaine's Impact Round!

Thanks for joining us for this incredible episode with Elaine Froese!

If you'd like to connect with Elaine you can find her online in the following places:

www.farmfamilycoach.com

www.elainefroese.com

@farmfamilycoach across all the social channels

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Long time no see VPP listeners!

Welcome back to the show - we're so excited to be back on air!

And yes, we know, we said we'd be back in September. We've already done our 50 push-ups as punishment.

On with the show though as Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht reconnect, get reacquainted, share some personal and professional wins, and dive into the current state of the veterinary profession with its many challenges and many optimisms.

Topics covered include:

Welcoming the new class of students to Vet Med
When you realize that the Veterinary Project Podcast is helping people make big life decisions in joining the profession!
Dr. Jonathan Leicht updates on Bridgeland, Mosaic, 60+ hour weeks, and quality time with the family
Dr. Michael Bugg updates on the real estate world and a dream opportunity come true
Price rediscovery in clinic valuations
Why we're in an "operating environment" and what that means
Changing Locum sentiment as a result of wage changes
Utilization rates and the rising cost of services
Veterinary professionals still need to focus on their mental health

Thanks for joining us for our relaunch and we'll see you again in two weeks for another episode!

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We're in a season of transition here at the Veterinary Project, as Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg share the moving pieces in today's episode.

With plenty of activity on the business front, along with family vacations planned for the summer, our team is shifting gears and buckling down for a summer of push combined with quality time with our families.

We wanted to share with you some of the things we've learned in making this transition, including:

Business ventures in the vet med and real estate investing spaces
Why we're taking a hiatus until September
The four seasons of life and how it relates to current business ventures
Jonny's removal of Instagram and how it positively impacted his life (and use of time)
Summer plans, Summer fun, and what's coming next Fall

Wishing you and your loved ones an amazing summer - we look forward to more conversations, interviews, and great guests in Fall 2023!

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A big welcome back to the show to Dr. Melanie Barham! A previous guest from 100+ episodes ago, no doubt a lot has changed as she now leads the team at Vets Stay Go Diversify, an organization committed to helping veterinary professionals and employers find a great fit for what they need.

Melanie is a veterinarian, entrepreneur, speaker, educator, and mum. She holds a DVM from the Ontario Veterinary College, and an MBA in Sustainable Commerce from the University of Guelph, and a Project Management Professional designation.

Melanie has held roles in many fields of vet med including sport horse medicine, consulting, laboratory, surveillance, not-for-profit/ NGO, and charity sectors. She founded the DVM Project, the North American branch of VSGD, and formally joined the VSGD team in September 2022. Melanie’s MBA research focused on veterinary career paths.

Topics covered in our episode with Melanie include:

From the DVM Project to CEO of Vets Stay Go Diversify
How to craft a great story
The power of story for employers seeking great candidates
Developing your personal story as an employee seeking a great place to work
Why employers should ask their current employees questions why they choose / continue to work at your clinic
What stories aren't you telling?
What does the data say about our industry (employee and employer satisfaction)
How to renew your interest in the veterinary industry if you're feeling bored or disenchanted
Why do most people undersell themselves and what can we do about it?
The relativity of extraordinary and normal
Why storytelling is more "sticky"
Tips for crafting your story to increase connection and bridge the gap

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melaniebarhamdvm/

Email: mel@vsgd.co

Website: https://vsgd.co/

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Thank you for listening and we'll catch you again in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Welcome to Mike & Jonny's "Relationship Roundtable"!

In this episode, Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht are talking about relationships...and no, they did not become relationship coaches!

Personally and professionally relationships are key to success in life.

Amidst current struggles in both areas, Mike and Jonny decided to bring the subject some light to share what's working, what's not, and how they're working to get better. Through hearing their challenges we hope you'll find something helpful for you.

Topics covered include:

Relationships are everything!
Being responsible to the relationships in your personal and professional life
The struggles of keeping relationships in good standing
Time vs. attention
What's working for us
Being genuinely curious about others

Got some relationship tips for us? Send them directly - we'd love to hear from you!

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Yang Shi, Founder and CEO, and Cecilia Baer, Director of Sales at VetSnap join us for a conversation unlike anything we've had on the Veterinary Project Podcast...

Being compliant with the controlled drugs and substances we use in veterinary medicine is incredibly important. It's also something that many clinics find time consuming, and employees find draining.

That's where VetSnap comes into play - by simplifying the tracking process and making compliance easy.

Prior to VetSnap, Yang headed up technology at National Veterinary Associates. Before that he worked in aerospace, consumer electronics product management, and management consulting. He lives in Northern California with his wife and pup, Penny.

Cecilia has worked in the veterinary industry as a technician for 13 years, then in sales for the last 9 years. She lives in Kentucky with her husband, 3 two-legged kids, and 3 four-legged kids!

Topics covered in this eye-opening conversation include:

Yang and Cecilia's journey to today
Why compliance in tracking controlled drugs and substances matters
Just how much time and money do poor tracking practices cost?
Getting clinic staff with little time to adopt new technologies
Having faith in the entrepreneurial journey
Yang and Cecilia's Impact Round!

Thank you to Yang and Cecilia for joining us on the show, sharing their stories, and illuminating us on the benefits of VetSnap.

If you'd like to learn more about VetSnap, check out their website or find them on Facebook!

https://go.vetsnap.com/

https://www.facebook.com/VetSnap

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Jillian Carr is the driving force behind Steady Gait Planning Inc., a financial planning practice offering people in the veterinary community a place to feel educated and empowered by their financial journey.

Jillian has spent the last 16 years in the Financial Services industry, 8 of those years were working with leading financial services companies and the last 8 building Steady Gait Planning.

Building a practice in a male dominated, antiquated world has been challenging. Jillian learned to truly follow her authentic self and ideas. Jillian is no stranger to diversity in life and finances – watching her parents divorce at the age of 19, navigating a mother with mental illness and 15 years later seeing her dad, her career and life advisor, pass away due to complications from a traumatic brain injury all while trying to build her business during the height of the pandemic. Jillian is a designated financial advisor, an active member on the board of the advisor association, and an ally and mental health advocate in the veterinarian community.

Topics covered in our wide-ranging conversation with Jillian include:

Getting to the root of people's financial fears
Common money stories veterinarians have
Why people are scared to have conversations about money, especially with contract negotiations
Why we're afraid to talk about the money positives
Shifting your financial plan as your career progresses
Tactics for better money conversations
100% responsibility motto
Getting actively involved in your finances
Jillian's Impact Round!

Thank you to Jillian for joining us for a courageous money conversation.

jillian@steadygaitplanning.com

IG: @steadygaitplanninginc

Budgeting tool mentioned in the show:

https://itools-ioutils.fcac-acfc.gc.ca/BP-PB/budget-planner

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Back in 2021, we aired Episode 026 on understanding contracts.

Well, a lot has changed in the industry over the past two years, so we've put together an update and included answers to the most common questions Dr. Jonathan Leicht has been getting at recent event presentations with new grads, practicing veterinarians, and employers.

Topics covered and questions answered include:

Expected salary ranges for new grads
What increased salaries mean for production expectations from employers
Signing bonuses: red flag or the norm?
The power of informal references in your job search
Both sides of retention bonuses
Where we're at with non-competes
What are "rolling contract terms"
Extras in contracts to consider
Allowing time for reviewing, due diligence, and negotiations

Want to learn more about Veterinary Employment Contracts? Check out our first episode, Episode 026, where we dive deeper into the subject:

Episode 026 - Understanding Contracts

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The Veterinary Project is incredibly excited to present this bonus episode of the podcast in celebration of the release of co-host Dr. Michael Bugg's new book: You’re Gonna Get Peed On!: How Veterinarians Can Keep Their Dream Job from Becoming a Nightmare While Working Less and Earning More

Dr. Michael Bugg, DVM, is a full-time real estate investor and veterinarian with over a decade of clinical experience in veterinary medicine. After graduating from the Western College of Veterinary Medicine in 2008, he practiced as a mixed-animal veterinarian before shifting to a small-animal general practice.

Like many of his colleagues, Michael struggled with the unique demands of veterinary clinical practice. Overwhelmed and burned-out, he often felt as if his career was spiraling into a nightmare. He struggled to get ahead financially despite the long hours he spent at the clinic. His entire life was impacted by his career stress—so much so that his wife gave him the moniker Miserable Mike. This, along with working amid the early 2000’s financial crisis and witnessing once-retired veterinarians picking up shifts, motivated Michael to take back control of his life.

In You're Gonna Get Peed On!, Michael shares smart solutions for the personal and financial struggles that no one warned you about in vet school. With this guide of practical advice and insights from veterinarians pulled from this very podcast, get ready to take back control from veterinary burnout and realign your life for ultimate joy and financial abundance-both inside and outside of the clinic.

This conversation led by co-host Dr. Jonathan Leicht, takes you behind of the scenes of the creation of the book, as well as going deeper into areas such as:

Why Dr. Michael Bugg decided to write a book
The how-tos of creating, writing, editing, and publishing Mike's book
"This is a really good book!" - Dr. Jonathan Leicht gives his seal of approval
Challenges and tribulations along the way
Who this book is for
"Miserable Mike"
The difference between just-thinking-about-it, to aspiring, to accomplished author: GRIT
The teachability index: your willingness to learn and your willingness to accept change
Beyond the book - what else is included in You're Gonna Get Peed On!

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Amy Oliver is an experienced healthcare executive and the founder and CEO of Amy Oliver + Co where she offers trusted advisory services and professional leadership and business coaching to practice owners, leaders, academics, and organizations in health and social sectors.

Amy has coached and advised hundreds of health leaders and practice owners. She is passionate about bridging the gaps around strategy, management, and leadership through knowledge translation at the crossroads of health and business. She is the founder of the Healthy Business series, the Womentum series, and the online leadership platform, The Stack. She holds an MBA with a dual concentration in Organizational Leadership and Health Administration. She is a pharmacist, a Certified Leadership Coach, and a globally certified Project Management Professional.

Amy holds certificates in Emotional Intelligence and Advanced Strategic Management and Leadership. She is a sought after keynote speaker, a member of the Speakers Bureau of Canada, has won multiple health sector and leadership awards and is a recent alumna of the prestigious Governor General Canadian Leadership Conference.

If you're someone who is in leadership or are someone who is aspiring to develop your leadership skills, you're going to gain immensely from this wide-ranging conversation. Topics covered include:

The evolution of Amy's career
Learning to lead through owning a franchise pharmacy business
Letting things go to sharpen focus and increase productivity
Best practices for health care providers and clinic leaders
How operational efficiencies can improve mental health in the workplace
Psychological safety in the workplace - what does that actually mean
How clinic owners and leaders can get real feedback from their teams
3 examples of practices improving mental health in the workplace - employee engagement, operational efficiency, and recruitment
Altering our expectations around what's possible for women (and men) in the workplace
Amy's Impact Round!

Thank you Amy for joining us on the show!

If you'd like to learn more about Amy, her company's programs and consulting, or her upcoming initiatives and opportunities you can find her in the following places:

www.amyoliver.ca

E-mail direct: amy@amyoliver.ca

Or on Instagram @amyoliverco

One more amazing thing for our listeners...if you'd like to join the Fall 2023 cohort of Healthy Businesses, Amy's got a special discount code specific for listeners of this show!

Use Promo Code VETPROJECT and get an additional 10% off the registration price for the Healthy Business 10 week course: https://www.amyoliver.ca/healthybusiness

Registration is already open for the fall 2023 program! Early bird pricing goes until June 1st, 2023 before increasing to full price. This discount code applies to both the early bird and the full registration fees.

If you or someone you know can benefit from additional business strategy and skills while gaining confidence in a group of like minded peers, then this course is for you!

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After a spirited preamble on the current state of economic affairs, Dr Michael Bugg leads this conversation with the resident expert, Dr. Jonathan Leich, on all things locum.

Dr. Leicht breaks down what any locum veterinarian, or those aspiring to become one, should know.

Topics covered in this tactical conversation:

Know your geography and what the going rates are
Negotiating rate of pay and services offered.
Being a locum veterinarian is not for new grads (explanation of why)
Clarity on your list of exceptions before discussing rate of pay
Understanding where the liability lies (on the locum or on the practice)
Getting liability insurance
Have a contract - know what you're asking for and be ready to discuss it
Employer goals versus locum goals
Expectations on when you'll get paid as a locum

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Dr. Caleb Frankel is the Founder and CEO of Instinct Science, an organization with a mission of greatly improving modern veterinary team experiences through better technology. Instinct's practice software platforms power many of the largest and most prestigious hospitals in the industry and are focused on enhancing state-of-the-art veterinary centers by incorporating true workflow improvement, decision support, patient safety tools, and charge capture automation.

An internship-trained ER veterinarian and alumnus of the University of Pennsylvania, Caleb also practices emergency medicine at the Veterinary Specialty & Emergency Center, an 80-doctor referral hospital in Greater Philadelphia, PA. He previously served as Director of New Product Development at Brief Media where he led the development of products such as the Plumb's Veterinary Drugs app.

Caleb blogs on all things technology and workflow in veterinary medicine at pickthebrain.instinct.vet.

In our wide-ranging conversation we cover:

Caleb's journey to the veterinary industry and Instinct Science
Stumbling across an internship that combined business training with vet med experience
The beginning of Caleb's technological innovation
Solving problems with software
The evolution of Instinct Science
Raising the capital to get started using the 3 Fs
Recruiting the founding team to get Instinct off the ground
Entrepreneurship: "it's an every day thing - obsession required"
Handling competition and differentiating yourself in the marketplace
Teaching yourself how to be, act, and think like a CEO
Caleb's Impact Round!

Thank you to Caleb for taking the time to join us on the show! For those that want to learn more about Instinct Science or connect with Caleb, best place is online and on LinkedIn:

https://www.instinct.vet/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/instinct-science/

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Traveling a lot with work?

If you're like Dr. Addie Reinhard, you can relate to the challenges of work-related travel, especially after a couple years of non existent business travel as a result of COVID-19.

Instead of trying to figure it out on her own, Dr. Reinhard put it out to her network to ask for some advice on how to best travel for work, which caught the attention of our co-hosts...so we decided to bring her back to chat on the subject!

Travel tips covered include:

Setting intentional time aside for yourself
Wake up at the same time you at home
Exercise!
Never check a suitcase
Focus on going deep with networking, not wide
If you're tired, try power naps
Follow-up the meaningful conversations with a handwritten card
Create time outdoors in nature
Staying on top of the work that's left at home (and noticing what broke!)
...and so much more!

About Dr. Addie Reinhard:

A previous guest of the show (episode 086), Dr. Addie Reinhard is the Founder and CEO of MentorVet, an evidence-based mentorship and professional development program for recent veterinary graduates. She is a veterinary wellbeing researcher, and her research focuses on developing and evaluating innovative interventions to support mental health and wellbeing within the veterinary profession.

Dr. Reinhard is on the research team for the third phase of the Merck Animal Health Veterinary Wellbeing Study, a study discussed in detail throughout this episode.

In 2021, Addie completed a master’s degree in Community and Leadership Development and a Graduate Certificate in College Teaching and Learning from the University of Kentucky. She also holds a certificate in Veterinary Human Support from the University of Tennessee, and is a certified QPR instructor.

Thank you to Dr. Reinhard for joining us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Addie you can do so in the following places:

info@mentorvet.net

IG, LinkedIn: @mentorvet

Facebook: @mentorvet1

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Welcome to 2023!

Back in February 2021, Dr. Bugg shared his framework for goal setting on episode 028. It was a great episode - Go have a listen!

In preparation for the first episode of the year, Jonathan and Mike decided to go back and have a listen to hear what's changed, what's stayed the same, and what goal setting this year means for them and the veterinary community.

Strap yourself in for some amazing stories, quality insights, and a number of laughs!

Topics covered include:

Acknowledging how far you've come
Identity-based goals vs. outcome-based goals
The VET acronym for success
Visualization - See the future you desire
Environment - Your physical world matters
Tactics - The 7 Ds

We'd love to hear what your goals are for 2023! Send us your messages on Instagram to @theveterinaryproject

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you in 2 weeks for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

It's the festive time of year and as the holiday season enters full swing, Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg have big news to share surrounding the show, including what things will look like in 2023!

Enjoy the episode and a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and your family from the entire team at the Veterinary Project Podcast!

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Andrew Rotz is a CFP® Practitioner, Certified College Financial Consultant, and NAPFA member with a lifelong mission to serve his community. In his role as the Director of Personal Finance and Financial Literacy at NCSU's CVM in Raleigh, North Carolina, Andrew teaches students to plan around many factors including interests, abilities, values, personality, background, market conditions, and circumstances.

In his work with Tide & Tempest Financial Planning, Andrew helps clients and their families know and understand their needs, wishes, wants and the world that influences them to make intentional financial and life decisions. His mission is to enrich, educate, and engage the veterinary community to achieve better financial wellness and peace of mind.

Andrew is co-host of Pawcast: Navigating the Veterinary Profession, a podcast offering advice to the veterinary profession on career development, personal finance and the business of veterinary medicine. Andrew also serves his country as a US Navy Reserve officer and recently returned from a deployment to the Middle East. He is married with two sons, living in Raleigh, NC.

Topics covered in our conversation include:

How Andrew got started working with veterinary professionals
Financial foundations for students - why money matters
Negotiating in today's hiring landscape
Current excitements and fears for employees
Is academia keeping up with the pace of industry innovation?
The financial challenges of today's modern DVM - student loan debt repayments, the cost of living, and wages
How "The Great Wealth Transfer" may play out in vet med
Aspiring clinic owners; should you buy or build?
What every vet professional should do with their money
Andrew's Impact Round!

Thank you to Andrew for joining us on the Veterinary Project Podcast!

Want to connect with Andrew? You can find him in the following places:

andrewrotz@tidetempestfinancial.com

tidetempestfinancial.com

Andrew's Podcast, "The PawCast: Navigating the Veterinary Profession" can be found on Apple Podcasts:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pawcast/id1500316675

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Andrea Matrangolo is the Talent and Brand leader with Mosaic Veterinary Partners. She loves all things related to talent management, employer brand, and of course, animals!

Over the last 10 years, Andrea has worked with teams—primarily in Oil and Gas-- to help them attract and retain the best talent, streamline talent processes, and showcase the importance of employer brand. Andrea lives in Calgary, AB with her husband, son, and her rambunctious springer spaniel. When she isn’t chasing around her toddler, you’ll likely find her outdoors or baking up a storm.

As Director of Brand and Talent with Mosaic Veterinary Partners, Andrea brings her wealth of experience to the show this week to help other veterinary clinics attract and retain top talent for their operations.

Topics covered include:

Andrea's career journey and transitioning to the veterinary industry
Why you must stand out in the eyes of candidates!
What is EVP - Employee/Employer Value Proposition
Employer Brand: the perception of what it's like to work at your company
How to build an EVP
Your Employer Brand works as a filter
Is this something you do internally or hire someone to do?
Nuances of the candidate experience
Building the "story" of a brand (and why story matters)
Live, don't launch, your EVP
Andrea's Impact Round!

Thank you to Andrea for joining us on the show. The best place to reach here is via LinkedIn at:

Andrea Matrangolo

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Dr. Katie Ford is an experienced small animal vet, having graduated from Liverpool in 2012 and gaining her RCVS Certificate in Internal Medicine in 2017. She became passionate about opening conversations up around imposter syndrome and self-doubt following her own experiences in the veterinary profession, and trained as a certified coach with further study in a number of areas, as well as publishing a series of books.

Katie grew a following of over 18,000 across social media as @katiefordvet, and is an international and keynote speaker, both in the vet profession and beyond. She co-founded Vet Empowered in 2020, offering personal development content and group coaching services, namely to recent graduates.

As her businesses grew, she saw the importance of money mindset and financial independence, not only within her own clients but in making personal progress too. She joined VetYou as a co-director, helping to break down barriers around finances within the profession and to enable access to timely, expert financial advice. She is currently studying for a Masters Degree in Emotional Wellbeing Therapy.

Topics covered include:

Katie's story
The impetus of imposter syndrome
Are you focused on proving yourself to others?
Discrediting the voice in your head
Fundamentals of developing self-worth - start with what truly matters to you
Taking action in alignment with what matters to you
The stages of competence
"There" is not an external place, it's an attitude
Katie's Impact Round!

Big thank you to Katie for joining us on the show! To connect with Katie, you can find her in the following places:

IG: @katiefordvet

www.katiefordvet.com

FB: Katie Ford Consulting & Coaching

IG: @vetempowered

www.vetempowered.com

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

DISCLAIMER

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.

Signs are pointing in the direction of a recession, so we thought it prudent to bring back a previous guest, Isaiah Douglass, to provide some insights on what veterinary professionals should consider doing in today's economy!

After working at a large national firm for a number of years, Isaiah left and founded a solo financial planning firm in 2018, pursuing a planning approach that was dedicated to identifying ways to grow the net worth of veterinarians. In the summer of 2020, he merged with another financial advisor and became a partner in Vincere Wealth Management.

Isaiah is a Certified Financial Planner™, Certified Exit Planner, and Fee-Only advisor, as well as the host of the weekly Veterinarian Success Podcast, which interviews and discusses topics related to the clinical, business, financial, and personal lives of veterinarians. He is deeply involved in speaking within veterinary medicine, having talks with students, on podcasts, in video interviews, and as a guest at the Veterinary Financial Summit conference.

In this episode, we cover:

The hot dog stand fable
Where's the line between economic reality and "the noise"
What Isaiah's hearing from veterinary clients from coast to coast
Choosing your response to recession conditions
Financial planning considerations for veterinary professionals in today's economy
Understanding bonds and the bond market
What else can you own other than stocks and bonds?
Portfolio reallocation and why it's important
Thoughts on interest rates
Final words from Isaiah

Thank you to Isaiah for coming back on the show! If you'd like to connect with Isaiah you can do so online at:

isaiah@vincerewealth.com

https://www.vincerewealth.com/

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Dr. Michael Bugg is running solo this week with Dr. Jonathan Leicht on vacation, so he decided to take to the mic to drop some fire on 3 key topics that were worthy of illumination!

What topics might you ask? Well, here's the high-level notes:

DISCLAIMER: Investment and financial topics shared in this episode are not to be taken as financial or investing advice and are solely the opinions of the hosts of the show. Please consult your professional financial or investment planner for advice related to these subjects.

Dropping the ball (temporarily) by design
Casting a vote (in the right direction)
Prioritize your time this holiday season
Get a handle on how you behave at the extremes (of economic markets)
Thoughts on today's investment world including stocks, crypto currencies, and real estate investing
Exercise extreme due diligence
There will be excellent opportunities
Leverage works both ways - be mindful of the cost of borrowing

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Mentors come in many forms.

Whether connecting directly with them day-to-day (like a boss or manager) or never connecting them with all (someone you follow on social media), mentors play critical roles in shaping our thoughts and actions, while showing us the path we have yet to walk.

In this episode, Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht discuss the importance of mentors, types of mentor relationships, and how to maximize the mentor/mentee relationship to create win-wins for everyone involved.

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

If there's one thing that's for certain, it's that things change!

In this week's episode, Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg share practical frameworks and strategies, along with some current real-life situations, for how to manage change.

Topics covered include:

What prompts change?
Change out of desperation vs change from inspiration
Minimizing lag time between decision making and action
Reviewing the game tape to see what's working (or what's not)
It's normal for change to feel uncomfortable
Not making a decision is also a decision
How do you roll out change (personal example from Dr. Leicht)
Evaluating the results of change
Always be evolution

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com.

Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg continue on last week's conversation of Short Term vs. Long Term decision making, while shedding some light on the current economic state of North America.

With signs pointing towards recession (if not already being there), those who make smart decisions today will set themselves up for rock star status - personally and professionally - on the up-cycle in years ahead.

Topics covered include:

The #1 investment to make in economic downturns that is guaranteed a significant return
Work to learn vs. work to earn
Is it time to side-hustle?
Taking on debt vs. the no debt policy
Elevating from employee to business ownership
Return on lifestyle

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Amidst Dr. Bugg's big news, we've got another episode for y'all this week on making decisions related to career and life!

Jonny and Mike bat around the challenge of making decisions from the perspective of long term vs. short term gains, and why having an eye to both the future, and the now, is important.

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Dr. Megan Sprinkle is a board-eligible veterinary nutritionist who attended Auburn University for veterinary school and the University of Missouri for her clinical nutrition residency. She worked at Royal Canin US as a teacher and consultant for 5 years before recently joining BSM Partners, a consulting group helping businesses succeed especially in the pet industry. She's also the president-elect for the American Academy of Veterinary Nutrition.

Megan lives with her husband and Great Dane in Savannah, GA where one of her favorite things to do is to produce her podcast called Vet Life Reimagined.

In today's free-flowing conversation, Megan and our hosts dive into:

Who is Dr. Megan Sprinkle?!
How the early obsession with dolphins led to greater things...
The career challenges of specializing in veterinary nutrition
Building value, confidence, and having an impact
Why start (and what drives) the Vet Life Reimagined podcast?
Doing what you want versus "this is what I'm supposed to do"
Training your mindset
Megan's Impact Round!

Thank you to Megan for joining us on the show! For links to all that Megan is up to, including her podcast, check them out below:

BSM Partners: https://bsmpartners.net/

American Academy of Veterinary Nutrition (AAVN): https://aavnutrition.org/

Vet Life Reimagined YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf0CGUH0QmzarnRvisB6Lmg

Vet Life Reimagined on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vet-life-reimagined/id1617455211

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Coming off a trip to the Veterinary Innovation Summit in Portland, Oregon, Dr. Jonathan Leicht discusses his experience, insights, and key takeaways around the future of veterinary medicine.

With Dr. Bugg leading the chat, Dr. Leicht shares:

Connecting with previous podcast guests in person
Reviewing the "gold standard" of veterinary medicine
Why the vet-centric model is no longer possible
The statistics for what consumers and spending on veterinary care
The concerning statistics behind professionals in the industry
What options do we have to make things better?
Increased utilization of veterinary techs
Telehealth opportunities
"Adapt or die!"
Who in the veterinary industry is TRULY self-aware

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Following up on the previous couple weeks of conversations surrounding entrepreneurship with our co-hosts, as well as repeat guest Dr. Gary Marshall, Mike and Jonny toe the line between execution and getting things done at the expense of feeling exhausted.

Topics covered in this wide-ranging follow-up conversation include:

Developing clinic culture, including healthy boundaries balanced with professional expectations
Work life balance: real or not real?
Tips for ensuring rest and recovery time
Creating awareness around rest and recovery routines
Rest and recovery routines: what's working and what's not for Mike and Jonny
The vets set a wager...

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This week we're catching up with fan favorite and multiple time guest, Dr. Gary Marshall!

In this catch-up conversation with Dr. Marshall we cover:

The seasons of life - differences between where Gary is at and where Dr. Leicht is at
"Not being exhausted suits me" - dissecting Dr. Marshall's attention-grabbing social media post
Removing the weight of clinic ownership
Reduced hours, increased satisfaction, different lifestyle
Thoughts on where our industry is at relative to the start of 2022
What's upcoming for Gary

Connect with Gary on Instagram:

@it.might.get.weird

About Dr. Gary Marshall:

Dr. Gary Marshall is a multi-faceted veterinary professional with years of experience in the industry.

As a graduate of the Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine, Dr. Marshall founded Island Cats Veterinary Hospital on Mercer Island, Washington in 1996. He is a mentor/coach for VetX International representing North America where he connects with many students and new graduate veterinarians on a consistent basis. With his position as Adjunct Professor for Washington State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine, there are several veterinary students receiving part of their clinical training at Island Cats.

Dr. Marshall is a Past-President of the Washington State Veterinary Medical Association and still serves on the Board of Directors. He also has previously served as Vice-Chairman of the American Veterinary Medical Foundation and currently serves as one of two representatives from Washington State in the House of Delegates for the American Veterinary Medical Association.

In 2020, he was appointed to the Advisory Group of the Commission for a Diverse, Equitable, and Inclusive Veterinary Profession, a joint venture of the AVMA and AAVMC.

At the end of 2020, Dr. Marshall was elected to the Board of Directors of the Women's Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative. He has really enjoyed working with the women on the board and the experience has helped him refine what allyship can and should look like.

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Like a couple of classic entrepreneurs fitting in a podcast episode when time allows, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht catch up for an episode in the midst of the end-of-week push in their respective lives.

Fittingly reflective of the recording situation, Mike and Jonny take this episode to share insights from their entrepreneurial journeys - both their current struggles and current successes in their lives as business owners.

Talking points include:

Dr. Leicht's and Dr. Bugg's current areas of struggle
Recognizing when your team needs you at a different level
Learning to say NO!
The red flag of "busy"
Dr. Leicht's and Dr. Bugg's "what we're doing well!"
Outsourcing household tasks
Optimizing calendar usage

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With the return of the school year and a new wave of first year's entering vet school, Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht take a walk down memory lane and reminisce on their first year experiences, including some insights on how to make this life-changing experience the best it can be.

Talking points include:

Why "the competition is over"
Bonding with classmates, pranks included
Learning doesn't just take place in the classroom
What's most memorable
Intentionally creating magical moments

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Ryan Appleby is an Assistant Professor of Diagnostic Imaging at the Ontario Veterinary College. He completed veterinary school and a rotating internship at OVC. He then completed an imaging internship in San Diego at and a residency in diagnostic imaging at NC State university in Raleigh North Carolina.

Ryan was boarded by the American college of veterinary radiologists in 2019 and rejoined the team at OVC at that time. His research interests include the use of artificial intelligence in veterinary imaging, clinical applications of advanced ultrasound technologies. He is passionate about teaching and started the website obivet.com in 2021 to provide global access to high quality veterinary educational content in a micro-learning format.

Note: We recommend you take a quick read of the journal links provided below that are referenced off the top of the show!

In this episode, Ryan and the guys discuss the impact of AI in veterinary medicine, veterinary imaging and clinical applications including:

What is artificial intelligence in veterinary medicine?
Explaining how AI works
Applications AI can positively impact
Driving forces behind the development of AI
Factors that we should be considering around utilization of AI
How can we prove AI validity to make it fit for practice
Is AI benefitting the patient?
AI smarter than human intelligence: yay or nay?
Deployment of AI in practice
Where can AI go from here

Journal links:

https://avmajournals.avma.org/view/journals/javma/260/8/javma.22.03.0093.xml

https://avmajournals.avma.org/view/journals/ajvr/83/5/ajvr.22.03.0038.xml

To reach Ryan directly, you can find him here:

IG: @applebydvm

Twitter: @applebydvm

Ryan@obivet.com

rappleby@uoguelph.ca

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Dr. Elliott Garber is a specialist in Veterinary Preventive Medicine and a graduate of Tufts University and the University of Virginia. He led and trained teams in clinical practice for eight years while in the military, including three years as veterinarian to the Navy SEALs and their working dogs. His science thriller, The Chimera Sequence, was published in 2015. Elliott built and sold an 8-figure e-commerce and marketing agency before joining Instinct to launch the veterinary industry's first electronic prescribing software.

In our conversation with Dr. Garber we cover:

Working as a veterinarian in the US military
Scratching the "animal" entrepreneurial itch, from e-commerce to software
What financial independence looks like for Elliott and his family
Putting the financial puzzle pieces together
Instinct Science - what is it, and why it matters
Transitioning into a start-up company as a DVM
Designing with ease in mind
What are the key features, advantages, and benefits of Instinct
Elliott's Impact Round!

Want to learn more about Instinct Science or connect with Dr. Garber? Here's where to go:

Online: www.instinct.vet

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliottgarber/

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Back again for another round with Dr. Tannetje Crocker and this time she has big news to share....She's become a veterinary clinic owner!!!

In this episode we hear all about:

How the opportunity to purchase a clinic arose
Why she made the decision to move forward into clinic ownership
Details of the deal and the clinic
What the due diligence of buying the clinic looked like
Negotiations
The freedom to take her ideas and run with them
Buying a veterinary clinic WITHOUT being the lead vet!
Making leadership decisions with the long-term vision in mind
Day-to-day priorities for the first year of ownership
Community support
Final thoughts

Thank you to Tannetje for taking the time to visit us again on the show, and congratulations on the great news!

If you'd like to connect with Dr. Crocker, you find her online at:

www.drcrockerpetvet.com

On Instagram and TikTok @dr.tannetje.crocker

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With another school year just around the corner, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht share their 7 tips to succeed in veterinary school on this week's episode.

Mike and Jonny highlight the following ways to make sure your veterinary school experience this year is a huge success, including:

Network with everyone
Collaborate over competing
Travel when opportunities arise
Lower your cost of living
Get out of your comfort zone
Revamping your study habits
Shifting perspective, quit striving

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DISCLAIMER

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.

In this week's episode, we're picking Dr. Michael Bugg's brain on how to get started in real estate investing as a veterinary professional.

With 10+ years of experience investing in real estate assets including residential and multi-family, Dr. Bugg shares on a variety of real estate investing topics to illuminate the possibilities for veterinary professionals who need to realize the importance investing will have on the quality of their financial future.

Topics covered include:

Dr. Bugg's evolution in real estate investing
Turning a lucky opportunity into an education
Real Estate Investing 101
Building credit (access to credit)
Accumulating capital for investing
Becoming an area expert
Be willing to ask!
Get educated, get connected
Learn how to analyze deals
Write offers

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It has been 2 years since the idea of this podcast was born...and now...with numerous guests interviewed, conversations conducted, and experiences shared, the Veterinary Project Podcast is excited to have reached a major milestone in the show's history: our 100th episode!

To celebrate this milestone, Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg have prepared 3 questions for each other, looking back on favorite moments, guests, episodes, and stories from the past 2 years, as well as looking forward to what our future has to unfold.

To all our loyal listeners, gracious guests, and support team, we thank you for making our run to 100 a huge success!

Here's to 100 episodes - and to the next 100 to come!

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When lifestyle changes forced Leilani Mustillo to consider leaving Vet med, she connected with friend and fellow industry colleague Dr. Sean Neate to discuss a solution to both the career changes she faced and an opportunity to improve Telehealth. After a couple long brainstorming sessions, Animal HealthLink was born, with the vision and mission to redefine the veterinary emergency and after-hours triage model and be the veterinary industry standard for triage.

Leilani, RVT CEO is a born and raised Albertan who completed the Olds College Animal Health Technology program in 2009. Since graduating, she has worked in specialty and emergency medicine in both nursing and management roles. Since 2015, she has been an instructor in Olds College's Animal Health Department.

As an advocate for RVT advancement, she has a love for mentoring and training those who are new to emergency and critical care medicine, with her favourite topic being emergency triage.

Sean grew up in Alberta and originally obtained a Bachelor of Commerce from the University of Alberta, but switched careers and graduated from the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Calgary. After graduation, Sean completed a rotating small animal internship at a referral institution in Calgary. After spending several years in referral and emergency medicine, he moved to family practice.

Sean is currently a practicing partner in a group of veterinary hospitals in Calgary where he enjoys a mixture of clinical cases and leading teams in their growing practices.

In our wide-ranging conversation with Leilani and Sean, topics covered include:

Leilani and Sean's career journey
Creating a new path to keep involved in the profession
Animal HealthLink's inception
The benefit of Animal HealthLink's services for veterinarians and clinics
Transforming the way telehealth is done
Working within the regulatory framework in multiple States and Provinces
How does Animal HealthLink work?
The fun of starting up a veterinary business - what it really takes
What's got Leilani and Sean excited for the company's future
Leilani and Sean's Impact Round!

Thank you to Leilani and Sean for joining us on the show!

To find out more about Animal Health Link, visit or connect with them in the following ways:

https://www.animalhealthlink.ca/

info@animalhealthlink.ca

@animalhealthlink on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn

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How do we create more conversation and drive positive change for wellbeing and self-care in our profession?

Dr. Ryan Appleby is one of the voices actively working to shed light on this incredibly important challenge our industry faces, and in this episode we're expanding the conversation in this area with him.

Dr. Appleby is an Assistant Professor of Diagnostic Imaging at the Ontario Veterinary College. He completed veterinary school and a rotating internship at OVC. He then completed an imaging internship in San Diego and a residency in diagnostic imaging at NC State university in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Ryan was boarded by the American College of Veterinary Radiologists in 2019 and rejoined the team at OVC at that time. His research interests include the use of artificial intelligence in veterinary imaging and clinical applications of advanced ultrasound technologies. He is passionate about teaching and started the website obivet.com in 2021 to provide global access to high quality veterinary educational content in a micro-learning format.

In our conversation with Dr. Appleby we cover:

Ryan's background and career to date
The impetus for, and challenge behind, releasing his "Wellbeing in Veterinary Medicine" blog post on Obivet
Why industry and organizations need to get more involved in professional wellbeing
External factors that inhibit self-care
Should clinics and corporations flow more money towards helping staff with self-care and wellbeing?
Organizational vs. individual accountability for wellbeing
Everyone needs to get involved in order to drive change
People first vs. profit first - should businesses adjust their models in order to address wellbeing challenges?
The "Perfect Practice Wish List" - Dr. Appleby's suggested solutions
Ryan's Impact Round

Check out Ryan's educational content online with Obivet:

https://obivet.com/

Twitter: @obivet

IG: @obivetce

To reach Ryan directly, you can find him here:

IG: @applebydvm

Ryan@obivet.com

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Dr. Jonathan Leicht puts on his veterinary operator hat for this week's episode covering all things veterinary suppliers!

Topics covered include:

Have your agreements in place well before you open a new clinic
Choosing your supplier "partners" wisely
It's all based on relationships
Understanding the perspective of product reps from Pharma
Salespeople are salespeople - so be direct!
Things to consider when entering into contracts
Clearly communicate when things change
Thoughts on contracts being shorter or longer
What to do if you're a small volume cline or you don't want to deal with supplier conversations

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Disclaimer

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.

With all the drama, headlines, and uncertain going on in the economy right now, we called on previous guest of the show and Certified Financial Planner™, Certified Exit Planner, and Fee-Only advisor at Vincere Wealth Management, Isaiah Douglass to provide some much needed perspective with a state of the economic union address!

After working at a large national firm for a number of years, Isaiah left and founded a solo financial planning firm in 2018, pursuing a planning approach that was dedicated to identifying ways to grow the net worth of veterinarians. In the summer of 2020, he merged with another financial advisor and became a partner in Vincere Wealth Management.

Isaiah hosts the weekly Veterinarian Success Podcast which interviews and discusses topics related to the clinical, business, financial, and personal lives of veterinarians. He is deeply involved in speaking within veterinary medicine, having talks with students, on podcasts, in video interviews, and as a guest at the Veterinary Financial Summit conference.

In this episode, we cover:

What the heck is going on right now in the economy?
Interest rates and inflation and how it's driving things
Expectations around inflation and what it means for clinic owners, professionals, and your financial life
How purchasing power gets eroded
What's happened to bitcoin? Is it still worth considering? Where's it going?
Staying resilient
What not to do right now
Final thoughts from Isaiah

Thank you to Isaiah for coming back on the show! If you'd like to connect with Isaiah you can do so online at:

isaiah@vincerewealth.com

https://www.vincerewealth.com/

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Dr. Casey Gaunt grew up in Virginia and started working at a horse ranch when he was a teenager. This created an interest in animals in general, which made him want to go to vet school. He went to Virginia Tech for a bachelor’s degree in Animal and Poultry science before getting into vet school in 2002 at Virginia Tech (Virginia-Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicine).

Casey then got an internship in Saskatoon at the WCVM, where he decided he wanted to specialize in Internal Medicine and met his now husband, Joe.

In 2010, Casey went into private practice in Florida for a year before coming back to the WCVM. He supervised the ICU for two years before moving back into Internal Medicine until January of 2016. At that time, he wanted to find something different in his career and decided to leave the WCVM.

Casey began doing locum work while figuring out what he wanted to do long term, and ended up really enjoying it - so much so that it has been his full-time gig ever since!

If you're considering locum work this episode will be great for you as we cover:

Casey's unique career journey from WCVM to becoming a full-time locum specialist
Why pursue locum opportunities?
Identifying work dissatisfaction and what you can do about it
Making the decision to walk away from a job you don't like
Crafting your schedule and "pulse work"
The pros and cons of locum work and things you need to look out for
Setting clear expectations with clinics you work at
Casey's Impact Round!

Thank you to Casey for joining us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Casey you can find him online in the following places:

casey.gaunt@usask.ca

FB: Casey Gaunt

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Dr. Kate Baker returns to the show for a second episode! Her original appearance was Episode 058, where she told us that her and the family were packing up the RV and going across the United States for some epic road tripping, so we've brought her back to reconnect on life, career, business and her recent travels.

Dr Baker grew up in Nashville, Tennessee and completed her DVM at the University of Tennessee in 2012. She then completed a rotating internship and Clinical Pathology residency and became board certified in 2016.

Dr. Baker currently works as a veterinary educator and diagnostic clinical pathologist. She is the founder of the highly active Facebook group Veterinary Cytology Coffeehouse, offers continuing education resources through her website, Veterinary Cytology Schoolhouse, and recently launched a personalized telecytology consultation service, Pocket Pathologist.

She lives on a small farm in Columbia, TN with her husband and two young children, where they have three dogs (two chihuahuas and a cavapoo), a mini-donkey, a pygmy goat, and 30 chickens.

Topics covered in this week's show include:

Travel tales from being on the road with family
Having a healthy, heightened awareness of mortality
How her and her husband structure work and life to facilitate travel opportunities
The development of Pocket Pathologist
Changing to digital in the pathology space
Creating alternatives for cytology
How to create space for yourself, whether you love your job or you want to be an entrepreneur
What's coming up next for plans with the RV!

Thanks Kate for carving out some time to rejoin us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Kate you can find her via her website:

www.veterinarycytologyschoolhouse.com

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Dr. Leicht recently had a conversation with previous Veterinary Project Podcast guest Elaine Clemenson in which she made the comment "don't believe everything you see on Instagram!"

The comment stuck with Jonathan throughout the week and became the impetus for this episode.

The reality is, what we see on Instagram is in most cases surface-level material designed to catch attention. It's important for us to remind ourselves that this is often the case, and that behind the photos, the carefully curated text, and the gloss and glamor is so much more than meets the eye.

To drive this point home, Dr. Leicht and Dr. Bugg discuss a number of topics including:

Mike's recent 10k run race and behind the scenes of his post-race state of mind
The Gap and The Gain
Pass / Fail mentality in vet med
Peak performance vs. optimal performance
How two pieces of contradictory advice can both be true depending on the season of life you're in

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Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze Snell co-hosts with Dr. Jonathan Leicht as we welcome back Becky Taylor of BS Communication Strategies to the show to discuss the whole wide world of opportunities for Techs in Veterinary medicine.

In her characteristically passionate style, Becky dives into the topic guided by our co-hosts covering all-things Technicians (RVT's) in 2022. Areas covered include:

The huge opportunities in Vet Med for RVTs
Mobilizing RVTs: what does this even mean?
The gap for RVTs: working directly with clients
People doing more of the work they want to = Greater retention!
The legalities of RVTs running appointments depending on jurisdiction
How can RVTS create connected dialogue with clinic owners
What's causing turnover and retention challenges
Suggested next steps we can take as a profession
Becky's Impact Round - Version 2.0!

Thank you to Becky for joining us on the show, and to Stephanie for stepping in to co-host!

You can connect with Becky in the following places:

https://www.bscommunication.ca/

IG: @2commnerds

2commnerds@gmail.com

And to connect with Stephanie you can find her on social media:

@dr.stephanie_vandeynze_snell

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Unless you've been living under a rock lately, you've definitely noticed the cost of things going up! Everything from gas to groceries, from utilities to clothing, life costs a lot more today than it did even a short 6 months ago.

In veterinary medicine we are not unaffected. Clinic owners, suppliers, and retailers are all feeling the impacts of rising costs.

Combined with rising interest rates, staffing shortages, pressures on wages, and the overall ability for customers to pay for ever-increasing costs of services, we're operating in very unique times.

In this episode, Dr. Leicht shares some of his opinions and insights on how inflation is impacting clinic owners, customers, and everyone involved in the value chain, while also sharing some strategies on what we can do about it.

Topics discussed include:

The definition of inflation
How did we get here?
How inflation impacts veterinary medicine
The rising cost of goods and supplies
Tough decisions with patients in a rising cost environment
Inventory management
How clinic owners / operators can manage the rising cost environment

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

As is the case in the veterinary world, a guest that we had lined up had to cancel last-minute...so like Jerry and George before them, Jonny and Mike lock in to a show about nothing!

We've got some fun topics on the docket in this episode of randomness including:

NHL hockey playoffs
Vehicle purchases with no car inventory
Mike's in the best shape of his life!
Craft non-alcoholic beers
Insights from the Podcast's analytics
Dr. Bugg calling out Dr. Leicht!
Studying the 1500s, Magellan's Strait, and fighting for spices
James Nestor and the importance of breathing
Hiring yard maintenance to spend more time with family

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

A graduate from the renowned Colorado State University Veterinary program, Dr. Kwane has been a California practicing vet for 22 years. He has worked in nearly every part of the profession - honing his clinical and business expertise.

His journey started in ’97 as an associate and emergency clinician in San Diego. From there he climbed the ranks quickly, becoming the Chief Medical Officer of Vetco Hospitals, Inc. Later he would take the reins of a struggling municipal shelter as County Veterinarian and reverse one of the worst euthanasia rates in the country. Most recently, he completed a six year stint as the Chief Veterinary Officer of American Humane, and Director of their legacy program, No Animals Were Harmed®, protecting over 100,000 animals every year around the globe on film and TV sets. Today he serves as the Chief Medical Officer and head Veterinarian for Papaya Pet Care.

He has been sought for his expertise by many media outlets and major companies – including Disney, United Airlines and Sea World – for guidance to improve their animal care standards. He is known for his outspoken, compassionate, charismatic and genuine nature.

Today, his career has evolved into another new journey. His true calling…helping pets and people in need.

Many years ago, during a five-year tenure as a Shelter Veterinarian in a struggling, depressed area of California, Dr. Kwane began to form a true appreciation for those that struggle to afford health care for their pets.

One day, on a whim, he headed downtown with some medical supplies. He set up a table near a homeless food bank, and invited anyone with a pet to be examined and treated at no charge. It was the most memorable day of his career. Afterwards, he made more consistent efforts to find Homeless people, wherever they were, and give free medical aid to their pets.

Now, years later, his journey is now being chronicled on a new television series, called “The Street Vet”. It follows him as he travels the streets of California helping pets, and people alike, while retrieving some of the most remarkable and inspiring stories of sacrifice and hope.

In this wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Stewart, we cover:

The origination of Project Street Vet
Working with the homeless and their pets
Being committed to care
The bond between pet and homeless person
How working with the homeless changed the trajectory of Kwane's career
Happiness within homelessness
Hollywood or homeless: pet lovers are the same
Funding veterinary care on the streets
The role of pet insurance
Making contributions - how can you do it?
Kwane's Impact Round!

Want to support Project Street Vet? Find out more about the project and donations at:

https://www.projectstreetvet.org/

Big thank you to Dr. Kwane Stewart for the amazing work he's doing in the community! To connect with Kwane you can find him in the following places:

@drkwane

@thestreetvet

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

While we may not want to admit it at all times, as a profession there are plenty of things we still don't talk about, including perceived and real discrimination in the workplace. To discuss this topic and how we can make things better as a profession, we're welcoming to the show Dr. Katarina Purich and Dr. Natasha Kutryk, two strong female voices speaking up for improvements in the profession.

Dr. Katarina Purich is a 2014 WCVM grad who’s been in mixed animal practice in rural Alberta for 8 years. A lifelong animal lover, she’s passionate about learning all the weird and wonderful facts of veterinary medicine. She’s an avid volunteer with local spay and neuter initiatives and internationally with the Equitarian Initiative.

Dr. Natasha Kutryk obtained her Doctor of Veterinary Medicine Degree from the Western College of Veterinary Medicine in 2014. Since graduating, she has worked in mixed or large animal practices in New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and Canada, with her current role being a Veterinarian Consultant with Feedlot Health Management Services.

Topics covered in this strength-based vulnerability conversation include:

Braving the negative impacts of speaking up on discrimination in veterinary medicine
Embracing new grads and women in veterinary medicine
Client vs. Clinic - discrimination comes from both
The power of strong female mentors for young women veterinarians
Mentorship: means something different to everyone
Checking in on each other's mental health
Steps we can take to create a better future
Katrina and Natasha's Impact Round!

A big thank you to Dr. Natasha and Dr. Katarina for opening up to this vulnerable conversation. To connect with Katrina and Natasha you can do so in the following places:

Dr. Katrina Purich:

Kbp415@gmail.com

@littlestvetshop

Dr. Natasha Kutryk:

@natoosh.vet

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

So You Want to Own A Clinic, hey? That's amazing! We've got the perfect episode for you...

Dr. Jonathan Leicht has spent over 10 years in major clinic operations roles with VCA and Mosaic Veterinary Partners, and has in the past couple years taken the jump into clinic ownership himself with Bridgeland Vet Clinic.

In this short, powerful episode, Dr. Leicht shares 5 lessons from his experience in clinic ownership, including:

Lesson 1: The Grind is Real

Lesson 2: "Oh shit!" Moments from Areas You Didn't Expect

Lesson 3: Finding Areas You Surprisingly Love

Lesson 4: How Far Forward You Need to Plan

Lesson 5: You Live and Die by Your Team

Find out more about Bridgeland Vet:

https://bridgelandvet.com/

@bridgelandvet

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Friend and frequent guest of the show Dr. Tannetje Crocker makes her debut as co-host in this week's edition of the show, which features our incredible guest, Founder and CEO of MentorVet Dr. Addie Reinhard!

Dr. Addie Reinhard is the Founder and CEO of MentorVet, an evidence-based mentorship and professional development program for recent veterinary graduates. She is a veterinary wellbeing researcher, and her research focuses on developing and evaluating innovative interventions to support mental health and wellbeing within the veterinary profession.

Dr. Reinhard is on the research team for the third phase of the Merck Animal Health Veterinary Wellbeing Study, a study discussed in detail throughout this episode.

In 2021, Addie completed a master’s degree in Community and Leadership Development and a Graduate Certificate in College Teaching and Learning from the University of Kentucky. She also holds a certificate in Veterinary Human Support from the University of Tennessee, and is a certified QPR instructor.

Topics covered in this conversation include:

Where we're at and where we're going as a profession
Mental health of veterinary professionals
The surprising impacts of COVID-19 on the profession
Breaking down the Merck Animal Health Veterinary Wellbeing Study
What is burnout?
Taking responsibility for your career satisfaction, mental health and wellbeing
How can employers improve mental health and wellbeing?
4 things that predicted good mental health and wellbeing for vets (from the Merck Animal Health Veterinary Wellbeing Study)
Setting a positive example for early-career veterinarians
The toxicity of gossiping and client-bashing - even worse than you think!
Everybody can do one thing...
Dr. Reinhard's Impact Round!

Check out the full Merck Animal Health Veterinary Wellbeing Study here:

https://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/about-us/veterinary-wellbeing-study

Thank you to Dr. Addie Reinhard for joining us on the show! If you'd like to connect with Addie you can do so in the following places:

info@mentorvet.net

IG, LinkedIn: @mentorvet

Facebook: @mentorvet1

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Jordan Woodsworth is a general veterinary practitioner, PhD candidate, and part of the Wellness and Preventive Medicine team at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Medical Centre. She is a 2008 graduate of the WCVM and joined the staff at the VMC in 2012 to start the Wellness and Service Learning programs.

Jordan’s diverse professional interests include community engagement and social accountability in the veterinary profession, clinical communications, inter-professional work in the area of animal welfare, and elevating the quality and perception of well care for cats and dogs.

Jordan’s work in Northern Saskatchewan is an area of true passion, and she strives to use her role as a veterinary educator to provide opportunities for veterinary learners and practitioners to develop and practice culturally safe approaches to veterinary care. Her personal interests include lake time with her husband, 2 kids and dog, traveling and enjoying nature, and eating and cooking amazing food.

In the 4th and Final Edition of this 4 part mini series, we're wrapping up with empathy, which includes discussion on:

How communication in intimate relationships varies from work relationships
Imposter syndrome and heated conversations
What is empathy?
Do you need to take on someone else's feelings in order to show empathy?
Why empathy is humbling
Opportunities to express empathy - how do you do it?
Empathic statements
Empathy in practice
Jordan's communication challenge!

To connect with Dr. Woodsworth you can find her via email:

jordan.woodsworth@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Our listeners have spoken and a Part 2 on the topic of investing is in order!

Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht return for a requested second discussion to follow-up on last week's 3 x 5 on the subject of investing.

Disclaimer

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.

After updates from Dr. Leicht on the current state of his newest clinic, our co-hosts dive into investing-focused questions including:

What main areas and trends the Doctor's have invested in
Developing multiple verticals: interconnected investment and business activities
Assessing the biggest risks ahead and protecting against them
How staffing shortages pose a threat to vet med investments
Return on time or return on investment?

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Dr. Jordan Woodsworth is a general veterinary practitioner, PhD candidate, and part of the Wellness and Preventive Medicine team at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Medical Centre. She is a 2008 graduate of the WCVM and joined the staff at the VMC in 2012 to start the Wellness and Service Learning programs.

Jordan’s diverse professional interests include community engagement and social accountability in the veterinary profession, clinical communications, inter-professional work in the area of animal welfare, and elevating the quality and perception of well care for cats and dogs.

Jordan’s work in Northern Saskatchewan is an area of true passion, and she strives to use her role as a veterinary educator to provide opportunities for veterinary learners and practitioners to develop and practice culturally safe approaches to veterinary care. Her personal interests include lake time with her husband, 2 kids and dog, traveling and enjoying nature, and eating and cooking amazing food.

In Part 3 of this 4 part mini series, we're talking about active listening, including:

Active listening = reflective listening
Using open-ended questions to show active listening
Should you label feelings as a listener?
Ways to word your questions and statements effectively to show that you hear what they're saying
The 3 steps to prepare yourself to actively listen
Reflecting back what you've understood
Word tracks you can use to get into deeper communication
Jordan's communication challenge!

Look out for the 4th and final part of this mini series coming out soon!

To connect with Dr. Woodsworth you can find her via email:

jordan.woodsworth@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

3 Questions. 5 Minutes Each. Can Dr. Bugg handle Dr. Leicht's heat?

Of course he can...cause this is a favorite subject of Mike's!

In today's episode, our two co-hosts delve into the world of investing, a world which all veterinarians should be exploring and putting their hard earned money to work for the creation of a better future.

Disclaimer

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast do not constitute financial advice and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. What you do with your money is your responsibility and you agree any strategies undertaken are done so at your own risk.

Topics covered in this episode include include:

Investing systems
Evolving your investment strategy as your life evolves
Automating funds towards investments
The purpose of an opportunity fund
Hitting home runs and understanding tail events
The psychology of dealing with gains and losses when investing

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When you need a pet detective, you call Ace Ventura.

When you need a veterinary lawyer, you call Doug Jack!

Doug Jack is a partner in Canada’s largest law firm, Borden Ladner Gervais – the only national law firm with a team of lawyers under Doug’s leadership dedicated to the law as it relates to the practice of veterinary medicine. He is an Associate member of the Ontario Veterinary Medical Association and Veterinary Hospital Managers’ Association and a charter and founding member of the American Veterinary Medical Law Association – the only Canadian to have served as its President.

Doug is a sought-after speaker on veterinary legal matters at veterinary conferences worldwide as well as the author of two books and numerous articles on the legal aspects of veterinary practice management. He presents annual lectures on veterinary jurisprudence at Atlantic Veterinary College, Ontario Veterinary College, the Western College of Veterinary Medicine and the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine (University of Calgary).

He and his wife, Debbie, live near Owen Sound, Ontario with their aging Havanese dog. In his “down time”, Doug enjoys hiking (having successfully reached the summit of Mount Kilimanjaro) and is an avid baseball fan (having completed a tour of every major league ball park).

In this impactful conversation, topics covered include:

What Doug's observing in veterinary medicine that he's never seen before (legally speaking)
Shifting from the vet being in the center of the legal conversation to the consumer centric model
The 2 things Vets need to do to protect themselves legally: risk management and medical records
Material risk and probable risk
The "Human-Animal Bond" and what that means for malpractice lawsuits
Keeping proper medical records
"If it ain't written down, it didn't happen!"
Why we're seeing an increased amount of complaints towards veterinarians
The overheated veterinary clinic marketplace and how deals with corporate groups are happening
Teaching clinic owners what the sale process looks like (expectations, time, disclosure)
What it means to "take a colleague to lunch"
Doug's Impact Round!

Big thanks to Doug Jack for joining us on the show! Connect with Doug by phone:

1-800-563-2595

Or via email:

dcjack@blg.com

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The second the public world knows you're in veterinary medicine, EVERYONE with a pet is going to want your advice!

So, how do you handle this never ending onslaught of unsolicited requests?

Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg have some insights and suggestions for managing this sometimes not-so-fun part of being a veterinary professional.

Amongst a couple quality rants and many laughs, topics covered in this episode include:

Funneling communication through the right channels
Giving out your personal cell phone - when to do so and when not
Are you obligated to respond to a request on social media or your personal phone outside of working hours?
Where to draw the line with friends and family on "free advice"
Utilizing technology to filter communications with clients into your medical records
The flip side of giving unsolicited advice: building incredible rapport
Employer risk with developing personal connections with clients

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Jordan Woodsworth is a general veterinary practitioner, PhD candidate, and part of the Wellness and Preventive Medicine team at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Medical Centre. She is a 2008 graduate of the WCVM and joined the staff at the VMC in 2012 to start the Wellness and Service Learning programs.

Jordan’s diverse professional interests include community engagement and social accountability in the veterinary profession, clinical communications, inter-professional work in the area of animal welfare, and elevating the quality and perception of well care for cats and dogs.

Jordan’s work in Northern Saskatchewan is an area of true passion, and she strives to use her role as a veterinary educator to provide opportunities for veterinary learners and practitioners to develop and practice culturally safe approaches to veterinary care. Her personal interests include lake time with her husband, 2 kids and dog, traveling and enjoying nature, and eating and cooking amazing food.

In Part 2 of this 4 part mini series, we're talking about non-verbal communication:

Only 20% of communication is verbal, the remaining 80% is non-verbal
Non-verbal communication: all about observation and awareness
4 types of non-verbal communication: kinesics, proxemics, paralanguage, autonomic changes
Where to start in improving non-verbal communication
Voice tone and pacing
The importance of visual cues
Close-talker or Far-talker? Sitting or standing?
Personal boundaries
Paralanguage: the secret sauce of communication

Look for Part 3 of this mini series coming out soon!

To connect with Dr. Woodsworth you can find her via email:

jordan.woodsworth@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Isaiah Douglass is a Certified Financial Planner™, Certified Exit Planner, and Fee-Only advisor at Vincere Wealth Management.

After working at a large national firm for a number of years, Isaiah left and founded a solo financial planning firm in 2018, pursuing a planning approach that was dedicated to identifying ways to grow the net worth of veterinarians. In the summer of 2020, he merged with another financial advisor and became a partner in Vincere Wealth Management.

Isaiah hosts the weekly Veterinarian Success Podcast which interviews and discusses topics related to the clinical, business, financial, and personal lives of veterinarians. He is deeply involved in speaking within veterinary medicine, having talks with students, on podcasts, in video interviews, and as a guest at the Veterinary Financial Summit conference.

This episode enters the world of Bitcoin, Cryptocurrencies, and the future of money. We wanted to bring Isaiah on the show to discuss these areas because of his relatedness to the veterinary profession and his wealth of knowledge on the subject.

Whether you're already familiar with these topics, or brand new to the subject, Isaiah's explanations and insights will give you a better understanding of the space and all its intricacies so you can make informed decisions around what to do with your money.

Topics covered include:

Good money, bad money, and allocation - what's it all mean?
A brief history of money
The effect of inflation on real returns
What is Bitcoin and how does it work (both as money and as a network)?
Fiat Currency versus Blockchain
How does someone "purchase" a Bitcoin?
Decentralized currency - why does this matter and is it the future of exchange?
The major difference between Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies
Centralized vs. Decentralized
"Proof of work" and "Proof of stake"
The point of Blockchain: to keep a good record of what's going on
Why Dr. Leicht shied away from Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency at first
Isaiah's Impact Round!

Want to learn more or connect with Isaiah? Find him via online at:

isaiah@vincerewealth.com

https://www.vincerewealth.com/

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Cindy Barnes graduated from Colorado State University in 2012 with five kids in tow.

In 2015, she founded Northern Arizona's first 24/7 Emergency Animal Hospital. As a practice owner, she realized that the practice management programs available on the market were antiquated, time consuming, and anything but user-friendly. She made it her mission to create a modern, user-friendly, cloud-based practice management software program that anyone could use on day one.

This was the genesis of Shepherd Veterinary Software, founded in 2016. Dr. Barnes self-funded Shepherd until 2019 when Synergy Pet Group partnered with her to help grow the platform to where it is today.

Although Dr. Barnes is no longer the CEO of Shepherd, she remains an integral part of the company's future while continuing to create new ventures in veterinary medicine, helping spur the next generation of veterinary professionals on to the same success she's enjoyed.

In this wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Barnes we cover:

Cindy's journey in veterinary medicine - from vet school to buying clinic to starting a software company
Working her way through vet school with 5 kids!
Going into debt to get through school AND buy her first practice
How to get a bank loan to open your practice
How to put yourself first in a "nurturing way"
Being creatively selective in prioritizing vet school activities
Paying off over $400k USD in 5 years!
Focusing on opportunities, not on debt
"Your worth is negotiable"
The creation of Shepherd Vet: a veterinary practice management software founded by Dr. Barnes
What "vets deserve joy" means to Dr. Barnes
Cindy's Impact Round!
Final words for the veterinary community

Interested in learning more about Shepherd Vet?

https://shepherd.vet/

Want to connect with Dr. Barnes? Find her online:

IG: @cindybarnesdvm

LinkedIn: Cindy Barnes DVM

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Jordan Woodsworth is a general veterinary practitioner, PhD candidate, and part of the Wellness and Preventive Medicine team at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Medical Centre. She is a 2008 graduate of the WCVM and joined the staff at the VMC in 2012 to start the Wellness and Service Learning programs.

Jordan’s diverse professional interests include community engagement and social accountability in the veterinary profession, clinical communications, inter-professional work in the area of animal welfare, and elevating the quality and perception of well care for cats and dogs.

Jordan’s work in Northern Saskatchewan is an area of true passion, and she strives to use her role as a veterinary educator to provide opportunities for veterinary learners and practitioners to develop and practice culturally safe approaches to veterinary care. Her personal interests include lake time with her husband, 2 kids and dog, travelling and enjoying nature, and eating and cooking amazing food.

Topics covered in Part 1 include:

Why should veterinarians care about communication?
Who needs communication training?
Communication skills are transferable skills
What is an open ended question and how do you ask them?
Ways to start an open ended question
How a broad open ended question can get you all the information you need
Training yourself to ask better questions
The power of curiosity
Disarming or defusing intensity / conflict / anger

Look for Part 2 of the 4-part mini-series coming out soon!

To connect with Dr. Woodsworth you can find her via email:

jordan.woodsworth@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht dig in on James Clear's book, Atomic Habits, a book the co-hosts studied in tandem to start the year.

This breakthrough book is considered the most comprehensive guide on how to change your habits and get 1% better every day, with the overarching principle being that small actions, done consistently over time, lead to remarkable results through the power of compounding.

Topics discussed include:

Two quotes that smacked Mike in the face!
Small changes in habits, over time, will lead to massive results
Purposeful practice and identifying areas to improve
The 4 steps of a habit: the cue, the craving, the response, the reward
Applications of the 4 steps to veterinary medicine and practice
Priming your environment for habit creation / alteration
Reinforcing habits by tracking the habit stack
If you're going to miss, modify instead
The Doctor's share their Atomic takeaways

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

3rd year veterinary medicine student Saskia de Jong grew up on reserve in remote northern Ontario in an area that had more bears than it had people. She enjoys being involved in community outreach and has a fondness for working with Indigenous communities and volunteering with the Special Olympics.

Before entering vet school, Saskia studied at Dalhousie University and James Cook University, attaining degrees in Marine Biology and Zoology, as well as Environmental Science and Stats.

Now at UCVM, Saskia is secretary of the Pathology Club and the Behaviour and Animal Training Club. She is also co-chair for the UCVM WIDE (Wellness, Inclusion, Diversity and Equity) task-force, which is composed of faculty, staff and students.

This summer she founded the student group by the same name to better support equity, diversity, inclusion and the mental health and wellness of students. Her hobbies include playing fiddle, learning more about the indigenous customs and cultures she was raised with, reading, beading and triathlon.

In our wide-ranging conversation with Saskia we cover:

What got her to this point in her veterinary student progression
Giving back to community
Overcoming challenges to get into vet school
Why get involved in profession / school clubs and committees?
Attacking and addressing challenges facing the vet med profession
The creation of The Diversity in Veterinary Medicine event
Encouraging diversity in the workplace
The willingness to be uncomfortable while fostering change
Saskia's impact round!

A big thank you to Saskia for joining us on the show!

To connect with Saskia directly you can do so via email or Instagram:

saskia.dejong@ucalgary.ca

@dejong_triathlon

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Gary Marshall is a multi-faceted veterinary professional with years of experience in the industry.

As a graduate of the Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine, Dr. Marshall founded Island Cats Veterinary Hospital on Mercer Island, Washington in 1996. He is a mentor/coach for VetX International representing North America where he connects with many students and new graduate veterinarians on a consistent basis. With his position as Adjunct Professor for Washington State University’s College of Veterinary Medicine, there are several veterinary students receiving part of their clinical training at Island Cats.

Dr. Marshall is a Past-President of the Washington State Veterinary Medical Association and still serves on the Board of Directors. He also has previously served as Vice-Chairman of the American Veterinary Medical Foundation and currently serves as one of two representatives from Washington State in the House of Delegates for the American Veterinary Medical Association.

In 2020, he was appointed to the Advisory Group of the Commission for a Diverse, Equitable, and Inclusive Veterinary Profession, a joint venture of the AVMA and AAVMC.

At the end of 2020, Dr. Marshall was elected to the Board of Directors of the Women's Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative. He has really enjoyed working with the women on the board and the experience has helped him refine what allyship can and should look like.

In our wide-ranging conversation we dive into:

Where Greg's @it.might.get.weird instagram handle comes from
Stories from an entertaining 25+ years in veterinary medicine including business ownership, practicing, and academia
Developing a feline focus
Why you should stay curious about the profession
How Greg found himself on the AVMF and the AVMA
Working with the Women's Veterinary Leadership Development Initiative
Breaking down barriers and bridging the gap between generations within vet med
Developing awareness of our unconscious biases
Moving out of practice ownership
Thoughts on the trend towards relief veterinarians and working alone
Gary's Impact Round!

Want to connect with Greg directly? Find him on instagram:

@it.might.get.weird

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Brad Posehn rejoins the Veterinary Project Podcast for a strong Round 2!

Brad Posehn is a graduate of the College of Kinesiology at the University of Saskatchewan. He has spent the last 11 + years training several athletes in the NHL, KHL, AHL, NLL, NCAA, as well as the National and Provincial level in various sports such as volleyball, figure skating, football, lacrosse, swimming, and golf.

Over the years, as owner of Absolute Performance Centre in Calgary, Alberta, Brad has helped hundreds of individuals reach their goals through emphasizing proper movement patterns and catering programs to their sport and its specific demands from a biomechanical and physiological level, in a positive, fun and supportive environment.

In our 2nd conversation with Brad we dive into:

Working through the ups and downs of owning and operating a gym during COVID
Why get a personal trainer
How much activity is required to move the needle
Why people fall off an exercise routine
How long it takes to actually see the results of a consistent fitness program
Why women who lift weights won't turn into the Incredible Hulk's twin sister
Training while pregnant: yay or nay?
Get specific to address your body's needs and capacities

Big thanks to Brad for reconnecting with us!

Connect with Brad on Instagram:

@brad.posehn

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Jamie Gruber is a former insurance executive who quit his high paying job to pursue his purpose of motivating and inspiring others to live their best lives.

A native New Yorker and Bostonian who now resides in Michigan, Jamie has become a real estate investor, podcast host, creator of the Emerge goal setting course and leader of the Ascend mastermind.

A high energy conversation that covers personal development, career progression, overcoming fears, developing awareness, and keeping momentum, Jamie brings the punch to kick off another year of the Veterinary Project Podcast in 2022!

Topics discussed include:

Living the American Dream...but being internally miserable
Ego vs. authentic self
"It was not fear of failure, it was fear of judgment"
Giving yourself time to think
Do you. Be you. Judgment will be there, just be aware of it
The power of "solo weekends"
Daily practices to keep taking action
Slow down to speed up by doing a weekly plan on Sunday
Accountability and proximity for transformation
Investing in YOU first
Finding a community for growth, and avoiding those who don't support you
Building relationships with the coolest people in the world
Jamie's Impact Round!

Want to connect with Jamie directly or follow the journey? Find him on Instagram at:

@thejamiegruber

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Welcome to the Eggnogural Veterinary Project Podcast Holiday Roundtable!

It's been a difficult couple years in the veterinary medicine industry. From staffing shortages to the unpredictable nature of the pandemic, to advances in how veterinary clinics are caring for animals and helping animal owners, there have been countless challenges we've faced as a result of our changing world.

In our final show of 2021 we're going out with a bang, bringing in an exceptional collection of thought leaders and experts to discuss ideas and perspectives on the following important topics:

The state of veterinary medicine in 2021
"We're at a fork in the road around client relationships"
What the future of veterinary medicine holds in 2022 and beyond
The role of regulation in the industry
Improving utilization of veterinary technologists
Navigating challenges with access to care
Communication: in the workplace, in academia, in the profession
How veterinary professionals can make an impact and find fulfilment
Final thoughts and takeaways from the roundtable

Thank you to all our guests for aligning on this amazing conversation together.

And a BIG thank you to you, the listener, for your continued listenership!

Wishing you a happy holiday season from the entire team at the Veterinary Project Podcast!

Connect with all of our guests in the following places:

Dr. Tannetje Crocker:

@dr.tannetje.crocker

Dr. Craig Mosley

Dr. Jordan Woodsworth:

@jord_marie306

Dr. Kent Weir:

@kdawg306

Dr. Gary Marshall

@it.might.get.weird

Dr Stephanie Van Deynze

@dr.stephanie_vandeynze_snell

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

It's Round 2 with a previous guest of the show: Dr. Tannetje Crocker!

Dr. Crocker is a 2009 graduate from the Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine.

Upon graduation, she completed an equine focused internship in Southern California., then she worked as a solo equine ambulatory practitioner for three years before transitioning to small animal medicine.

In our first conversation, which aired backed in November 2020, Dr. Crocker was practicing in Grapevine, Texas at Northwest Animal Hospital and the Animal Emergency Hospital of North Texas. Since that conversation much has changed as she shares in this update chat with Dr. Leicht and Dr. Bugg.

Show highlights:

Transitioning from small animal practice & relief ER to starting a new position with VEG - Veterinary Emergency Group
Aligning passion with profession in her new role
Why levelling up requires making major changes
The VEG culture
Personal updates including real estate renovations, building a custom home, and moving 3 times in 10 months
Hitting the work wall of exhaustion and making healthy changes to improve

Thank you to Tannetje for taking the time to visit us again on the show.

If you'd like to connect with Dr. Crocker, you find her online at:

www.drcrockerpetvet.com

And on Instagram @dr.tannetje.crocker

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Danielle Alleman has been a small animal veterinarian since graduating from the Cornell College of Veterinary Medicine in 2017. She is the owner and creator of Empathos Veterinary Wellness, a platform designed to help support the mental health and wellbeing of the veterinary profession through virtual events, speaking, career coaching, and more.

Dr. Alleman also serves on the WSVMA Wellbeing Committee providing wellbeing resources to members.

As a veterinary student, she was part of the group that created the Student Wellness Initiative, a group that still exists today.

When she is not involved in Vet Med, she enjoys hiking, climbing, skiing - basically any activity that gets her outside in the Pacific NorthWest mountains!

In our conversation with Dr. Alleman we discuss:

Lessons learned as a new grad in moving cross-country from East to West
Learning to make integrated decisions in regard to career and life
Considerations for new grads navigating their first job in vet med
Helping people rediscover the feeling they felt when they first wanted to become a vet
Transitioning to running Empathos Veterinary Wellness and ushering in The Eudomania Wellness Vet Conference
Where is the veterinary wellness conversation going?
Dr. Alleman's Impact Round!

A big thank you to Danielle for joining us on the show! Want to learn more about Empathos Veterinary Wellness and Dr. Alleman? Connect with her in the following places:

IG: @empathos.vet

danielle@empathosvet.com

www.empathosvet.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

How you handle winter holiday schedules can create significant challenges from both the employer and employee perspective.

Unlike other typical holiday times surrounding Canada Day / Independence Day, or Thanksgiving Day, the winter holiday season is especially important to most people and is filled with greater connotations around time spent with family, friends, and loved ones.

As a result, it is vital that employers get this right when working with employees to create win-win holiday schedules as best they can.

It is equally important for employees to be clear in their understanding of expectations and provide significant lead time for extended time-off requests.

In this episode, Dr. Jonathan Leicht provides some insights on the employer perspective of how to handle the challenges the holiday season brings, while Dr. Michael Bugg offers points from the employee perspective.

Topics discussed include:

Opportunity costs around holiday scheduling
Understanding that the clinic will be short staffed
Blocking the holiday season ahead of time
Employers can't make everyone happy - if you try to, no one will be happy
"The business has a seat at the table."
Ways employees can make the most of comparable holidays
How employers can work with employees to set up holiday staffing schedules
Benefits of working during the holiday season

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Christine Beck has been in the animal industry for over 20 years, and is a successful business owner in multiple industries.

She is a passionate visionary who just recently launched Waggle Mail, a filler-free subscription box for dogs and their humans that contains vet-curated information and products to support dog’s health and wellbeing, no matter their stage in life. Her vision is to build a community of empowered dog owners taking the best care of their dogs.

Christine is passionate about advocating for the health and wellness of animals, and has creatively blended that with her skills and experience in finance and business.

Topics of discussion in this energetic, entrepreneurial episode include:

• Christine’s career trajectory from vet school to business ownership and entrepreneurship

• Handling a veterinary career while growing a non-vet related business

• Getting aligned on your professional direction

• The genesis of Waggle Mail

• The shift from “pet owners” to “pet parents”

• Communicating effectively from human to human to pet (from vet to pet owner to pat)

• The subscription box business model

• Providing pet health product awareness to pet owners

• Getting pet owner’s to see a vet for the things you should see a vet for

• Identifying bottlenecks to the growth of Waggle Mail

• Navigating setbacks as an entrepreneur

• Dr. Beck’s Impact Round!

Thank you to Dr. Christine Beck for joining us on the show.For clinic partnerships, to sign up for the Waggle Mail newsletter, or to connect directly with Christine, reach out to her in the following places:

christine@wagglemail.com

@wagglemail

www.wagglemail.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Brent Mayabb is currently the Global Chief Medical Officer for Royal Canin, where he’s responsible for being the medical liaison between Royal Canin and large multi-hospital veterinary practice groups around the globe. He joined Royal Canin USA back in May 2004 and has held many jobs in between, including roles in HR and Corporate Affairs, with responsibilities in areas as diverse as public relations and government affairs.

Prior to joining Royal Canin, Brent worked in a small animal practice in Granite City. He continues to do relief work in a small animal practice.

When not working, Brent spends time volunteering at events with the Animal Protective Association of Missouri and is a board member of the Banfield Foundation. He earned his DVM from the University of Missouri College of Veterinary Medicine in 1999.

In this follow-up conversation with Dr. Mayabb we discuss:

Enrolling in a graduate program in personal finance
Why does personal finance matter?
The difference between Fiduciary responsibility and suitability, two very different financial planning standards
Budgets: The Foundation of Personal Finance
Navigating personal finance tough spots
"Personal finance is more personal than finance"
Bridging the discomfort of having money conversations

Big thank you to Brent for returning to the show for another episode!

If you'd like to connect with Brent for a conversation around money, you can find him on LinkedIn:

Brent Mayabb

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Jim Clark is an animal lover, entrepreneur, former multi-practice owner, clinician, and educator.

After working in general and emergency practice for more than 20 years, earning an MBA, and serving as an owner in four ER/Spec practices,

Dr. Clark joined the faculty of the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine in 2010, assuming leadership of their Professional Skills curriculum. He currently provides instruction in communication, mental health, career planning, DEI, and business management skills.

Dr. Clark is also a Co-Founder of the educational consulting firm Pet Practice Partners, which is dedicated to providing impactful and cost-effective evidence-based learning for the veterinary profession.

Trust us when we say Jim BRINGS IT on this show, and you're going to take away some great tools you can start using immediately to become a better communicator.

Topics covered within the conversation include:

Dr. Clark's unique career path and professional development
Today's pet owners are more informed than ever, for better or worse
Coaching clients through the treatment plan
The WISE COACH framework
It's all about relationships!
Examples of open-ended questions and developing rapport with clients
Tools to become a better communicator in practice
"Better communication creates greater job satisfaction."
The importance of role playing
Dr. Clark's Impact Round

Thank you to Dr. Jim Clark for coming on the show! If you'd like to connect with Dr. Clark or learn more about the WISE COACH framework you can find him in the following places:

www.petpracticepartners.com

jclark@ucdavis.edu

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Do you have a bucket list of things you want to do before you die?

In this week's episode, co-hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht have some fun (in part thanks to Dr. Leicht's pre-show caffeine blitz) in this casual, coffee-cup conversation.

Connecting to the reality that we will die helps us realize that we should make the most of our lives.

What better way to do that than to lay out some experiences we want to enjoy before we pass on?

Intended to inspire, topics touched on include:

Defining bucket lists and the importance of having them
Different perspectives on bucket list items as a foundation for setting goals
Sharing some of Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht's bucket list experiences already had
Future Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht bucket list items
Don't forget to make them happen!
MikePetsATiger

Maybe it's time to start checking off some of your bucket list items . . . and if you don’t have a list, start creating one today!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

What do you do when **** hits the fan?

In this week’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht visit the subject of handling adversity in business.

Chock full with personal vulnerability, this episode pulls back the curtain on handling adversity with commentary on:

The real world responses to adversity for Dr. Jonathan Leicht in his Operational roles, including compartmentalization of emotions, trying to win, and over-communicating
How response to adversity changes over time with experience
How different people view adversity and conflict
The real world responses to adversity for Dr. Michael Bugg in his Real Estate business, including entering "silent-mode", getting emotional and losing rationality, and shelving the problem
Adversity is almost always worse in the moment than in the long run
Ask empowering questions like "what can I do about this?" and recognizing what's inside (and outside) of our control
Don't avoid adversity
Tips and ideas for becoming better at handling adversity

Adversity is going to happen whether we like it or not, so how do we best handle it?

There's no easy answer, but we’re working to improve in this area and hope this conversation will help you do the same!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Hilal Dogan completed veterinary school in 2015 at Massey University in New Zealand. During her final year of veterinary school, she was class president and launched the Veterinary Confessionals Project (www.veterinaryconfessionalsproject.com).

After graduating she moved to Maui, Hawaii where she worked as both an emergency DVM as well as a General Practitioner for 3 years. In 2017 she completed a certification as a Human Clinical Trauma Professional (CCTP) through the International Association of Trauma Professionals (IATP).

She relocated to Denver Colorado in 2018 and has been working as an emergency relief DVM since. Since 2015 she has been speaking and leading workshops at various veterinary conferences throughout the world on topics relating to the veterinary confessionals project, traumatic stress, resilience, and well-being. She also writes and edits clinical and non-clinical articles for DVM 360 magazine.

In our conversation with Dr. Dogan, we dive into all things trauma related including:

The "secret" vet confessionals project Hilal start to raise mental health awareness in vet school
What it's like for veterinary professionals to find out they're not alone
Defining trauma, traumatology, and how it impacts veterinary professionals
Primary and secondary trauma
What happens physiologically when we experience trauma
Recognizing your typical trauma responses - freeze, flee, or fight
How to rein in the trauma response and get back to stable
Talking about trauma and planning your response ahead of time
Working through trauma in the aftermath of experiencing it, including the use of talk therapy, yoga, and other methods
Hilal's impact round

Thank you to Hilal for joining us on the show. If you would like to connect with Hilal you can find her in the following places:

IG @vetconfessionals

www.veterinaryconfessionalsproject.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Jordan Woodsworth is a general veterinary practitioner and PhD candidate, and part of the Wellness and Preventive Medicine team at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Medical Centre. She is a 2008 graduate of the WCVM and joined the staff of the VMC in 2012 to start the Wellness and Service Learning programs.

Jordan’s diverse professional interests include community engagement and social accountability in the veterinary profession, clinical communications, interprofessional work in the area of animal welfare, and elevating the quality and perception of well care for cats and dogs. Jordan’s work in Northern Saskatchewan is an area of true passion, and she strives to use her role as a veterinary educator to provide opportunities for veterinary learners and practitioners to develop and practice culturally safe approaches to veterinary care.

In our conversation with Dr. Woodsworth, we dive into:

The power of peer learning and student mentorship
Transitioning her career from general practice to academia and teaching
Teaching the importance of creating relationships in veterinary practice
The shift towards teaching preventative care and relationship building in veterinary academia
Developing core communication skills to communicate effectively with clients to build trust and relationships
The 4 core communication skills all veterinary professionals should have
Social accountability and how it relates to the veterinary industry
Challenging students and their education on indigenous relationships, particularly in Canada
Developing awareness that each client, each student, and each professional comes from a different background with different perspectives
Providing veterinary services to communities that don't have access to veterinarians and tying field trips with student learning
Diversifying the veterinary profession

Thank you to Dr. Jordan Woodsworth for connecting with us on the show. If you'd like to connect with Dr. Woodsworth you can find her via e-mail to:

jordan.woodsworth@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This past weekend in the homeland of co-hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht it was Thanksgiving weekend, so a Happy Thanksgiving to all our Canadian listeners out there!

With that in mind, it felt appropriate to share some thoughts on the subject of gratitude.

In this episode, we share some of the things we're currently grateful for, while also providing tactical ways you can work to practice gratitude as consistently as possible.

It all starts with the question:

What are you grateful for?

This question keeps life in perspective. Give it a try today and see what you're grateful for right now, and note how you feel when you move to a state of gratitude.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Kate Baker grew up in Nashville, Tennessee and completed her DVM at the University of Tennessee in 2012. She then completed a rotating internship and Clinical Pathology residency and became board certified in 2016.

Dr. Baker currently works as a veterinary educator and diagnostic clinical pathologist. She is the founder of the highly active Facebook group Veterinary Cytology Coffeehouse, offers continuing education resources through her website, Veterinary Cytology Schoolhouse, and recently launched a personalized telecytology consultation service, Pocket Pathologist.

She lives on a small farm in Columbia, TN with her husband and two young children. They have three dogs (two chihuahuas and a cavapoo), a mini-donkey, a pygmy goat, and 30 chickens.

In our wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Kate Baker we cover:

Dr. Baker's origin story and unique career journey
Overcoming mental barriers and facing imposter syndrome
What it feels like to reach the "career breaking point"
The creation of the Veterinary Cytology Coffeehouse Facebook group - a place for Kate to teach - that has grown to over 60,000 members!
How Kate turned her Facebook group into a fulfilling career change
Career change is not easy. It will be hard
Things to consider to create a fulfilling career and life
Maximizing your work and / or business by hiring a virtual assistant
Remember the reason why you got into this industry: to help animals!
Dr. Baker's Impact Round

Thank you to Dr. Kate Baker for joining us on the show!

If you want to see what Dr. Baker is up to, or connect with her further you can find her in the following places:

IG: @clinpathkate

For Dr. Baker's learning resources and courses:

https://www.veterinarycytologyschoolhouse.com/

To join the Veterinary Cytology Coffeehouse Facebook group, use the URL below:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/VetCytoCoffeehouse

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

How do you look at discipline?

In this episode, co-hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht become Doctors of Discipline, sharing their insights on the principle of discipline and how to use it to achieve results in your life.

It's certainly not easy, and there are plenty of struggles associated with discipline, but as our hosts share, adopting it as a part of who you are is key to long-term success both personally and professionally.

Topics covered in this episode include:

What discipline means to Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht
Discipline versus willpower: what's the difference?
Vision and knowing your direction supports discipline
Optimizing AND minimizing your environment
Willpower is a finite resource
"It's the daily disciplines that keep things going"
Why (and how) discipline can increase your capacity
How making one higher level decision can eliminate downstream decisions that erode willpower
Using structure to support discipline
"The 5 Second Rule"
Dr. Bugg and Dr. Leicht's daily discipline exercises

With this highly tactical conversation, you’ll come away with a new appreciation of the role discipline plays in getting what you want out of life, as well as some tried and true methods you can apply to improve your level of discipline.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

How can we become better decision makers?

In this week's episode, Co-Hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht discuss the skill of decision making. Both personally and professionally, we are required to make decisions in all sorts of situations. This tactical conversation amongst our co-hosts covers:

Is decision making a learned skill or something you're born with?
What is decision fatigue and what are the symptoms of it?
Combatting decision fatigue
How to handle indecision
Delegating decisions
Dr. Bugg's "scalpel blade analogy" for decision making
Additional resources to for improving your decision making skills

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Meredith Jones is an emergency veterinarian and co-founder of the Veterinary Financial Summit, a financial conference and online community for veterinary professionals.

She is a self-professed “money nerd” who attends financial conferences and reads about personal finance in her spare time. In 2016, she completed training to become a financial coach and founded the Debt-Free Vets Facebook group. In addition to her role as an ER vet, she is a Financial Mentor at Veterinary Emergency Group (VEG).

In our conversation with Meredith we discuss:

Why Meredith got interested in personal finance
How she was able to pay off over $100k in student loan debt in 3.5 years
- Who the Veterinary Financial Summit is for
- Why should veterinarians attend the Veterinary Financial Summit and what will attendees leave with
- Meredith's personal finance book favorites

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The summit is also approved for up to 14 hours of RACE approved CE credit.

For more information on the Veterinary Financial Summit visit:

http://vetfinancialsummit.com/

Thank you to Dr. Meredith Jones for joining us on the show!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Phil Zeltzman is a traveling board-certified surgeon in Pennsylvania.

He is a serial entrepreneur with a severe case of Shiny Object Syndrome, international speaker, consultant, columnist, blogger, podcaster and a ridiculously long list of other fun stuff.

He is the co-founder of the Vet Financial Summit, which is an online community and financial conference that is coming up on September 18-19, 2021.

In this wide-ranging conversation with the ever-interesting Dr. Zeltzman, we cover:

Blog writing and sharing stories
What exactly is a traveling surgeon?
How veterinarians can establish freedom by moving to a mobile work lifestyle
A typical day in the life of a traveling surgeon
Learning how to say no in transitioning from being on-call 24/7 to only doing surgeries from Monday-Wednesday
Coping with Shiny Object Syndrome (SOS) and how Phil identifies opportunities worth pursuing
How Chronos is solving the front-desk problems and overwhelm many clinics face
Dr. Zeltzman's reason for creating multiple streams of income . . . and it's not the reason you think!
The moment when Dr. Zeltzman realized the power of passive income
Phil's first passive income stream
What the Veterinary Financial Summit is and why people should attend
Phil's Impact Round!

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The summit is also approved for up to 14 hours of RACE approved CE credit.

For more information on the Veterinary Financial Summit visit:

http://vetfinancialsummit.com/

Thank you to Phil for joining us on the show. If you'd like to connect with Phil you can find him online at:

https://www.drphilzeltzman.com/

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This ISN'T an episode about ball hockey (sorry if you were hoping it was)!

Dr. Michael Bugg reflects on lessons he's learned over the course of a 10 year ball hockey career, which most recently returned a milestone moment with his team's winning the championship at the Canadian National Ball Hockey Tournament.

In this episode, Mike takes 7 lessons from the hockey rink and connects them to life in veterinary medicine.

Entertaining and educational, with insights from Dr. Leicht, we trust you'll enjoy this edition of the show!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Ashley Bourgeois is a board-certified veterinary dermatologist passionate about providing practical knowledge to general practitioners to help itchy pets!

She completed her bachelor’s degree at Iowa State University and graduated from the University of Missouri’s College of Veterinary Medicine in 2010. She then completed a one-year small animal internship at Purdue. Upon finishing her internship, she accepted a residency position with the Animal Dermatology Clinic’s Tustin, California location in 2011.

She became a Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Dermatology in 2014, then moved to Portland, Oregon in 2016 to help expand the company. She is an owner within the company and on the board of directors, who has a strong interest in autoimmune skin diseases, allergies, cytology, and otology.

Dr. Bourgeois is passionate about educating veterinarians in dermatology and work/life integration through her podcast, lecturing, and social media presence (@thedermvet).

In our conversation we cover:

How Ashley got into veterinary dermatology
Private placements, academic residencies, and determining which makes the most sense for you
Becoming a shareholder and owner in a clinic, and how that's altered Ashley's perspective on the veterinary industry and how she sees her work
Determining what works for you professionally
The development of The Derm Vet (@thedermvet) on social media
Dealing with doubts and how successful people approach doubt
Being a "recovering perfectionist" and handling failure with authenticity
How to set expectations for clients when it comes to dermatology issues
Dr. Bourgeois's impact round!

Thank you to Dr. Ashley Bourgeois for joining us on the Podcast! If you enjoyed the show and want to learn more about dermatology, check out The Derm Vet online and on social media in the following places:

FB: @thedermvet

IG: @thedermvet

https://thedermvet.com/

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Coming to you from the beautiful city of Calgary at Co-Host Dr. Jonathan Leicht's newly up-and-running Bridgeland Veterinary Clinic!

Recorded in fitting fashion from one of the Clinic's examination rooms, Jonathan and Michael chat face-to-face about Jonathan's top 5 tips - and lessons learned - for opening a new veterinary clinic.

They are as follows:

Location, location, location!
Build a plan for construction (you can't wing something like this)
Team - start with the end in the mind
Have a solid business plan that includes contingencies
Create quality relationships

In addition to his tips, Jonathan shares some things he would do differently in the future based on his experience building out Bridgeland.

Congratulations to Dr. Leicht and the entire team at Bridgeland on the opening of the new clinic!

If you'd like to find out more about Bridgeland Vet Clinic, head on over to https://bridgelandvet.com/ or check them out on instagram @bridgelandvet.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Becky Taylor has been dedicated to her career as a Registered Veterinary Technologist for over 25 years. In that time, she has worked in mixed animal practice, in education, and in corporate veterinary medicine. She has participated in hundreds of CE opportunities, sat on national and provincial boards and considers herself a lifelong learner.

A pinnacle of this learning was in 2016, when Becky completed a Master of Arts in Professional Communication through Royal Roads University. Her final project was authoring a paper on the role of RVT’s with clients and resulted in the creation of a communication model for RVT’s.

Becky currently has 3 professional roles. Her full-time gig is the Co-Founder of BS Communication Strategies, where she provides communication coaching to individuals, companies and teams in a practical, skills-based way. She is a Co-Founder in the tele-triage company, AnimalHealth Link and in addition to those roles, she contracts to and supports Mosaic Veterinary Partners in the management and building of their veterinary practice teams. These endeavours fuel her communication nerdiness and her entrepreneurial spirit.

In our wide-ranging conversation with Becky, we cover:

Progressing step-by-step to a fulfilling career
How to develop grit
Reframing failure as an opportunity to grow
Increasing your emotional vocabulary to handle challenging scenarios
Training emotional intelligence and self-empathy in veterinary professionals
Becky's take on the role, use, and mobilization of Registered Veterinary Technologists in veterinary medicine
How do veterinary professionals and clinics start making use of RVTs in their practice
The importance of conflict and developing proper, healthy team communication within clinics
Becky's Impact Round

Stay tuned with BS Communication Strategies to learn more about an exciting, 5 day program to Mobilize RVT’s and start solving problems together. Coming this November!

Many thanks to Becky for sharing her passion for communications with us on the show! You can connect with Becky in the following places:

https://www.bscommunication.ca/

IG: @2commnerds

2commnerds@gmail.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Building off our previous episode on “The Cashflow Quadrant: How Do You Make Your Money?”, this week's episode covers the subject of generating passive income.

When making the transition from the left sides of the Cashflow Quadrant (Employed [E] and self-employed [SE]) to the right side (Business Owner [B] and Investor [I]), money can be earned "passively" if done right.

What does this really mean? It means that you start generating an income without trading your time . . . or at least not having to trade large chunks of your time!

Dr. Leicht and Dr. Bugg describe in detail their definition of passive income and the financial philosophies they have used to build wealth and generate passive income streams, with conversation topics including:

What is passive income?
Trading time for money vs. money for money
Discussing different personal finance perspectives, including using cash flow generating assets to pay down debt
Ways passive income can be used to improve the quality of your life
Types of passive income including stocks, REITs, real estate, private lending, and private business (private equity)
How to start building passive income streams

Did you enjoy this personal finance related show? Check out more related personal finance episodes including:

The Cashflow Quadrant: How Do You Make Your Money?

Financial Literacy - What You Need to Know About Debt

Personal Finance and Your Money Journey with Global Chief Medical Officer of Royal Canin: Dr. Brent Mayabb, DMV

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Sarah Montgomery, Ph.D. is the Founder of Peace Within Mindfulness and is a leading advocate for and teacher of Mindfulness for veterinary medicine. Sarah is a Certified Mindfulness Educator who has practiced Mindfulness since 1999.

She is an Education professor with over 20 years of experience in K-12 and higher education, and has published peer-reviewed research and given national presentations on Mindfulness. She has a B.A. in Psychology from Kalamazoo College and a Ph.D. in Curriculum Studies from Indiana University.

Since founding Peace Within, Sarah has given face-to-face and online professional development workshops on Mindfulness for veterinary professionals. She is excited to be a part of the growing movement to support wellness in the veterinary community.

Our conversation with Dr. Montgomery includes:

What is mindfulness?
Entry points to mindfulness practices and finding what works for you
Why mindfulness in veterinary medicine?
How Sarah got into studying and practicing mindfulness
Where can busy veterinary professionals find time to fit in a mindfulness practice?
What the science is saying about the health benefits of mindfulness
Example mindfulness exercises
Encouragement for professionals having a hard time getting started
Sarah's Impact Round!

Thank you to Dr. Sarah Montgomery for joining us on the show!

If you'd like to find out more about Dr. Montgomery's RACE-Approved CE Course on Mindfulness for Veterinary Medicine, check out free and on-demand resources, or inquire about Mindfulness workshops, speaking and consultations facilitated by Sarah, please visit:

https://www.peacewithinmindfulness.com/

You can also connect with Dr. Montgomery through the following mediums:

Instagram: @peacewithinmindfulness

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peacewithinmindfulness

E-mail: info@peacewithinmindfulness.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

How do you make your money?

In this episode, hosts Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg break down Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant - a valuable model for seeing the four ways in which people earn money in the world.

Talking points of our conversation include:

Explaining the four Cashflow Quadrants: employee (E), self-employed (SE), business owner (B), and investor (I)
The pros and cons of each quadrant
Why there is no right or wrong quadrant
How veterinary professionals relate to the Cashflow Quadrant
Recognizing different quadrants require different activities to earn money

Can you identify which quadrant or quadrants you’re in?

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Trisha Dowling, we dive into compassion and empathy within veterinary medicine including:

How compassion and empathy link to mindfulness
The difference between compassion and empathy
Why “compassion fatigue” is a misnomer, but empathy fatigue is real
Training compassion like a skill
Developing a personal mindfulness practice for yourself
Dr. Dowling’s impact round!

Thank you to Dr. Dowling for joining us on the show! If you'd like to get in touch with Trish directly you can find her through the WCVM website or directly by e-mail to:

Trisha.dowling@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Trisha Dowling is a veterinarian and professor of veterinary clinical pharmacology at the Western College of Veterinary Medicine. She graduated from Texas A&M in 1987 followed by a large animal rotating internship at North Carolina State. This was followed by 2 years of practice in Ohio and North Carolina, the latter a great source of humorous teaching stories.

After a large animal medicine residency and Master’s at Auburn University, she became a board certified by the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine and the American College of Veterinary Clinical Pharmacology. In 1993, she came running away to Saskatoon for a short time, but met and married a local guy so has been here ever since. Given US politics, she’s glad that she did.

The WCVM mostly pays her to teach clinical pharmacology, but in 2010 she snuck the first mindfulness based stress reduction course in to a veterinary school curriculum for credit – all without mentioning the words “yoga” or “meditation”. She has received numerous teaching awards including the Norden Distinguished Professor, the U of S Provost’s Teaching Award and the U of S Master Teacher’s Award.

In Part 1 of this 2-Part interview, our vivacious conversation touches on:

The unscripted, unfiltered 'getting to know Trisha' introduction!
The past, present, and future state of internships and residencies for students
Curbing the intergenerational treatment of interns to develop new professionals the right way
"The Hidden Curricula" students receive from mentors, both the good and the bad
Shifts at the academic level in how the next generation of veterinary professionals is being taught to treat each other
How Trisha dealt with bouts of depression
Jon Kabat-Zinn and the art of mindfulness
Understanding and utilizing the mind-body connection

Join us next week for Part 2 of 2 with Dr. Trisha Dowling as the conversation continues . . .

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Sometimes you need to step back and remind yourself to seek joy!

Co-hosts Dr. Jonathan Leicht and Dr. Michael Bugg continue to mix it up on the Veterinary Project Podcast, this time having a free-flowing chat around the things that bring them joy.

From not wearing socks to pulling teeth, from getting outside for a hike to cold beers on the patio, expect some laughs, expect some surprises, and ultimately, expect a fun reminder to seek the little (and big) things that bring joy to your life!

Additional Notes:

Mike's "love it or hate it" movie suggestion - The Royal Tennenbaums

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Juan, otherwise known as “Juancho” was born in Bogota, Colombia, but his family immigrated to Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA when he was 10 years old. Juan attended the University of Milwaukee-Wisconsin, where he graduated with a bachelor’s in biology and environmental conservation.

Juan is currently a fourth-year veterinary student at the Ontario Veterinary College in Canada. He is passionate about promoting diversity and inclusion in the veterinary profession. His veterinary interests include ophthalmology, emergency medicine, practice ownership, and taking on other leadership roles.

Juan considers himself a student entrepreneur and prides himself on being the co-founder of the Latinx Veterinary Medical Association, a non-profit organization representing the Latinx community in the veterinary profession.

Our conversation with Juan covers many topics including:

Juan's origin story getting into veterinary medicine
The student journey and how interests may change throughout veterinary college
The financial ramifications of getting a professional designation
Mentorship: what it means and why it's important
Benefits of developing networking skills
Launching a non-profit, Latinx Veterinary Medical Association as a veterinary student
Developing a community of Latin veterinary professionals
Juan's impact round!

If you'd like to find out more about Juan, he's very active on social media, Instagram in particular at:

@juancho.the.student.vet

For more information on the Latinx VMA you can check them out online and on Instagram at:

https://latinxvma.org/

@latinxvet

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Co-hosts Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht launch into an episode on Time Management in this edition of the show!

In time-focused fashion, topics and tips dispensed within include:

Technology hacks for busy professionals managing multiple calendars
The power of quarterly 90 day rocks
Mike's perspective: time management versus focus management
Why priorities must get scheduled-in first
Why "ignorance is bliss"
Learning to say NO
What it means to leave room for the magic
Getting intentional and taking time to reflect
Getting comfortable with delegation!
Why "later takes longer"

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Trevor Throness is a veteran coach who specializes in working with growing businesses from $2 million to $2 billion in sales. He has helped hundreds of entrepreneurs, organizations, and business families across North America fix people problems, enhance communication, attract top talent and build exceptional cultures.

He is the author of The Power of People Skills and has been featured in Forbes, Inc., and New York Post among other major publications.

Trevor and his wife, Jennifer live in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

In this insightful conversation we cover everything from getting the right people in the right seats, personality profiles, clinic culture, and communication with others. Topics Trevor and us dive into include:

Why getting people right is the key element of businesses succeeding
Why most issues are people related
How to communicate to fix problems
Understanding how to work with different personalities through understanding DISC profiles
Why people depend on leaders and leadership within a business
Assessing people's attitudes and productivity to get people in the right seats in a business
How leaders can approach and deal with problematic, underperforming personnel
Working ON your weaknesses versus working IN your weaknesses
Creating clinic culture and using that culture to attract top talent in the industry
Tactical pieces of advice for improving an existing clinic culture
Trevor's Impact Round!

If you're looking to find out more about Trevor or are curious what your DISC profile is, head on over to Trevor's website at:

https://gettingpeopleright.com/

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Forrest Gump said it best, “Shit Happens!”

This week, Mike and Jonathan share some of their biggest medical errors as veterinarians and how they personally handled their mistakes.

It's impossible to be prepared for how you're going to feel when you mess up, but as Jonathan and Mike share:

You will get through it
It's not so much the mistake that's made as it is what you do to handle it - what you do to make it right
There's always something to learn from when you make a mistake

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

What does veterinary medicine look like in a post-COVID world?

In this episode, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht discuss what they think is here to stay, and what's going away, in the post-COVID world.

Plenty has changed in the industry as a result of COVID and our hosts dive into some of those changes, sharing their opinions and thoughts on:

Curbside services
Delivery services and online access for clinics
What happens when pet owners start going back to the office
Creating client loyalty with new pet owners
Clinic automation and software solutions
Tele-medicine, tele-triage, and virtual reception
Change management
Networking events
Artificial intelligence
Work scheduling practices

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Adam Greenbaum is the CEO and founder of WhiskerCloud, a motivational speaker, and award-winning digital marketer with experience ranging from a boutique advertising agency to a national travel agency and everything in between.

Most digital marketers pride themselves on specializing in one particular aspect of marketing – social media, web design, analytics, email marketing, search engine marketing – Adam has worked tirelessly to master it all.

When he's not working, he spends his time with his wife, Elizabeth, two Boston Terriers, Sophie and Baxter, and cat, Nala.

In this unique conversation around digital marketing specific to the veterinary space, Adam shares:

How he got into the veterinary medicine industry
The challenges of keeping up with the incredible growth of WhiskerCloud since COVID started
The power of a quality digital presence for veterinarians
Maximizing automation to maximize return on time
Adam's relentless pursuit of business success as an owner of a company
Navigating difficult conversations
Notating everything to avoid mistakes and misinformation
The future of WhiskerCloud
Adam's Impact Round!

If you're interested in learning more about Adam and WhiskerCloud, check them out online at:

www.whiskercloud.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Debt is one of the scariest 4-letter words in the English dictionary . . .

. . . or is it?

Depends on what you use it for and how you perceive it that determines whether you think it's scary or as something that can be utilized.

DISCLAIMER: This episode is for education and entertainment purposes only. The information contained in this episode is based on personal experiences and opinions of the hosts and in no means represents professional advice.

In this conversation on the ever-important subject of financial literacy, our co-hosts share seem invaluable knowledge and experience when it comes to the REAL world of debt. Topics and talking points include:

Defining "good debt" and "bad debt"
One of the biggest advantages of being a veterinary professional: access to credit
How to determine a good debt versus a bad one
Using debt as a tool to propel your financial future forward
Using debt to create opportunities to grow and invest
Shifting perspective on how to view debt
How to position yourself to take advantage of current monetary policy conditions

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Nicole Clausen is the founder of Veterinary Care Logistics, a consulting firm specializing in inventory management for veterinary professionals.

She has over 13 years of experience in the veterinary industry with over 10 years in small animal practice, having worked her way up from receptionist to Operations Manager in various clinics prior to starting her company, which was born out of the demand by several industry leaders to utilize her inventory system as a model throughout the country. She specializes in helping veterinary teams create a streamlined and efficient inventory management system.

Since inception, Nicole has authored several publications, including controlled substance log books and inventory policy & procedure manuals.

She regularly speaks at different industry-sponsored conferences on inventory management, and has created several online, self-paced RACE continuing education inventory courses.

In addition, she founded the Veterinary Inventory Strategy Network; an online network and community dedicated to inventory management.

In our wide-ranging conversation, Nicole shares her wisdom and experience in the area of inventory management including:

Her veterinary career and the entrepreneurial journey that led to starting Veterinary Care Logistics
The mindset behind becoming an entrepreneur
What is inventory management?
How do you manage inventory for different types of clinics and situations
Inventory management principles and applying them to your unique practice
Understanding reorder points
Connecting inventory management to cost of goods sold and a clinic's financial statements
Dissecting your inventory management process & looking for opportunities to improve
The #1 problem Nicole sees with ALL clinic inventories
Improving access for consumers to products online when competing against giants like Chewy and 1-800-PetMeds
Meeting clients where they're at
The Impact Round!

Find out more about Veterinary Care Logistics and Nicole online in the following places:

www.vetlogic.co

IG: @veterinarycarelogistics

Pinterest: @veterinarycarelogistics

E-mail: hello@vetlogic.co

If you're interested in learning more about or joining the Veterinary Inventory Strategy Network, you can find more information at:

www.veterinaryisn.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Where is the world of veterinary medicine in 2021?

In this episode, Dr. Michael Bugg leads a conversation with Dr. Jonathan Leicht around the current state of veterinary medicine.

With Jonathan in the thick of the industry and in the midst of the current build-out of a new clinic, the timing of this spirited conversation is certainly fitting. Topics covered include:

The changing dynamics of staffing a clinic and building the right team
The pros and cons of part-time employment, both for employees and clinic owners
Staffing shortages across the industry
Attracting and maintaining employees in today's conditions
How innovation and technology are driving the accessibility and utilization of veterinary professionals for clients
Why demand for animal care has never been higher
Jonathan's final remarks on how veterinary clinics can succeed and take advantage of current opportunities

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Melanie Barham is a veterinarian, project management professional, and is an MBA Candidate in Sustainable Commerce. She has completed over 40 qualitative interviews with veterinarians who have made career transitions or made changes in their lives to be more satisfied in their careers. She’s counselled many veterinary professionals in negotiations, shifting mindset, and changing careers.

Melanie started The DVM Project in 2017. Originally intended as a blog after she left the equine industry, The DVM Project has grown into a career counselling service providing veterinary specific counselling and coaching to veterinarians, veterinary technicians, and students (veterinary students and technician students). They offer courses, events, and career coaching alongside their community of over 2500 veterinary professionals.

More recently, she has also been developing market strategies for companies in the veterinary space, and was one of the 3 organizers of the Global Veterinary Career Summit. She is also the co-chair elect of the USAHA Committee on Workforce Development, past president of the Canadian Animal Health Laboratorians Network, and past co-chair of the Equestrian Canada Health and Welfare Committee.

In our broad conversation with Melanie we dive into:

Melanie's unique career path and how its shaped what she's doing today
Making life decisions and career shifts as a result of changing life circumstances
The benefits of getting a project management professional designation
Taking on an MBA while being a parent and what she learned doing so
The genesis and execution of the Global Veterinary Career Summit
What is the DVM Project?
Melanie's perspective on how the DVM Project has grown over time
How Melanie approaches tackling projects with multiple steps
The Impact Round!

Thank you to Melanie for joining us on the show! If you'd like to find out more about The DVM Project or connect directly with Melanie you can do so here:

https://www.thedvmproject.com/

melanie@thedvmproject.com

Facebook @thedvmproject

Instagram @thedvmproject

https://www.thedvmproject.com/

If you are interested in finding out more about that Global Veterinary Career Summit check it out here:

https://www.globalveterinarycareersummit.com/

And lastly, you can also check out our companion episode where Jonathan and Mike were interviewed on Melanie's podcast:

https://buff.ly/3doGOrq

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

FULL DISCLOSURE AND DISCLAIMER:

The following episode is based on our experiences in practice to date. We are not tax experts or accountants. Please seek proper professional advice on the subject of taxes and accounting for your business.

When it comes to understanding financials for veterinary clinics, it pays to ask the greatest guiding question of all:

"If we bring in a dollar of revenue, what are we left with at the end that is going into the owner's pocket?"

The financial statements provide you with the answer to this question, while along the way providing insights into how money is earned, how it is spent, how it is invested, and how it flows within your veterinary business.

In the first of two episodes on the subject, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht provided a high-level overview of Profit & Loss Statements (otherwise known as P & L).

In this episode, the Co-Hosts are back again to dive into EBITDA - otherwise known as Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization.

Dr. Leicht takes the lead on this subject through his personal experiences and knowledge in evaluating veterinary clinics. Topics covered include:

The key takeaway for business owners and managers when looking at EBITDA is to focus on controlling what's "above the line" - all the revenues and expenses within the business that we can control
Why looking at EBITDA allows an apples to apples comparison between different practices
Why EBITDA is being used as a model for evaluating a clinic's effectiveness, and as a way to value the veterinary business
The importance of keeping your financial statements clean
Understanding normalization to compare clinic's fairly to each other
What first-time hopeful clinic buyers should do when evaluating the purchase of a veterinary clinic
Tips for hopeful clinic sellers looking to sell a clinic
Why EBITDA varies depending on type of practice / business
Remembering that Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization are "below the line" accounting items - seek professional help here!
The answer to the question "if we bring in a dollar of revenue, what's left that is going into the owner's pocket?

As a final note: don't be afraid of the numbers. The more you look at them, and the more you understand them, the more successful you're going to be in the long run.

Was this episode helpful for you? We'd love to know - please feel free to drop a comment or send us an e-mail to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com to let us know your thoughts.

If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

FULL DISCLOSURE AND DISCLAIMER:

The following episode is based on our experiences in practice to date. We are not tax experts or accountants. Please seek proper professional advice on the subject of taxes and accounting for your business.

When it comes to understanding financials for veterinary clinics, it pays to ask the greatest guiding question of all:

"If we bring in a dollar of revenue, what are we left with at the end that is going into the owner's pocket?"

The financial statements provide you with the answer to this question, while along the way providing insights into how money is earned, how it is spent, how it is invested, and how it flows within your veterinary business.

Over the next two episodes, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht provide a high-level overview of Profit & Loss Statements (otherwise known as P & L) and EBITDA (otherwise known as Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization).

In this episode, Dr. Leicht breaks down the P & L statement, providing knowledge and insights from his experiences on:

How the P & L statement helps you understand what's going on in your clinic
What the common revenue items in a veterinary practice are
General time periods in which P & L statements are reported and tracked
Trending revenues and expenses over time
The two major categories of expenses to focus in on: payroll and cost of goods / cost of sales
Breakdown of common cost of goods / cost of sales
General and administrative expenses
The average industry percentage of revenue that each expense represents
Using the numbers to help balance the needs and desires of employees

Was this episode of the show helpful for you? We'd love to know - please feel free to drop a comment or send us an e-mail to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com to let us know your thoughts.

If you liked the show and want to stay in the know, please subscribe to the podcast on the listening platform of your choosing.

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Picking up where Part 1 left off, with Part 2 of our conversation with Clinic Owner and Current CVMA President Dr. Enid Stiles shedding more light on the CVMA, Enid's role as President within it, and the work they're doing for the Veterinary profession. We also discuss some of the challenges that COVID has put on Enid's position as a clinic owner including the use of Registered Veterinary Technologists, need for additional staff to handle calls, texts and e-mails from clients, and using new technologies to help with clinic operations.

Our full range of conversation topics in Part 2 includes:

How COVID has impacted the use of registered veterinary technologists
Utilizing technology (or attempting to) to improve clinic operational adjustments brought on by COVID
Understanding what the CVMA does, including the intent of the CVMA Workforce Committee and CVMA Wellness Advisory Group
How we’re going to deal with the workforce shortage of professionals and technologists within the veterinary industry
Discussing animal welfare and moral and ethical lines amongst individual veterinarians
Understanding CVMA Position Statements and what they do in creating regulatory change
Why Dr. Stiles enjoys being involved in the CVMA
Why people should be involved in the CVMA
The Impact Round

A huge thank you to Dr. Enid Stiles for taking the time to join us on the show.

To find out more about the CVMA visit them online, on Facebook, or on Instagram:

https://www.canadianveterinarians.net/

https://www.facebook.com/CanadianVeterinaryMedicalAssociation

@cvma.acmv

You can also connect with the CVMA via their general e-mail:

admin@cvma-acmv.org

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Enid Stiles graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College with a DVM in the year 2000. Prior to her veterinary degree, she completed a Bachelor of Science (Conservation Biology) at the University of Ottawa and in 2009 she completed a Masters in Clinical Sciences (Behaviour Medicine) at the Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University of Montréal.

As a founding member and past President of Veterinarians without Borders Canada, Dr. Stiles has been fortunate to work with people and animals around the world. She believes strongly in working for and with communities in need to foster the health of animals, people, and the environments that sustain us all. Dr. Stiles works closely with Montreal based cat and dog rescue groups as well as her continued work with VWB and CVMA on improving veterinary services for remote and underserved communities in Canada.

In recent years, Dr. Stiles has become a regular presence in print, television, radio and social media advocating on current national and international animal health issues. Her interest and experience in veterinary behaviour medicine and animal welfare have been highlighted at speaking engagements with a recent focus on alternatives to feline partial digit amputation (declawing). In 2015, Dr. Stiles was selected as a member of the CVMA National Issues Committee and soon went on to be council representative for Quebec. She is now the current President of the CVMA.

Dr. Stiles was born in Newfoundland, however since 1987 she has had the opportunity of living in Zimbabwe, Ottawa and Guelph and now Montréal. In 2009, she opened her own small animal practice in the West Island of Montréal, Sherwood Park Animal Hospital. It has grown rapidly and is now staffed by six veterinarians as well as a complete veterinary behaviour service and newly developed mobile service for palliative and home euthanasia called Compassion Vet Montreal.

In Part 1 of this diverse conversation with Dr. Stiles, we discuss:

The development of Dr. Stiles' professional career
Wildlife experiences in Africa
Relationships with people and pets
Being a good mentor
"Gold standard is just a perspective" - there's an in between new vets must understand and be able to operate in
Connecting with owners during euthanasia
Dealing with work fatigue, COVID issues, and Enid's "Swiss Army Knife"
Through ownership you realize you have to get good at doing a lot of things (and you realize what you're not good at)!
Running a clinic during COVID
Managing staff, managing operations, and managing the bottom line during uncertain times

Join us next week for Part 2 of the conversation with Dr. Enid Stiles!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This episode, we are pleased to welcome the Co-Founder of veterinary telemedicine start-up Vetsie, Dr. Steve Boyer, to the show.

Dr. Boyer is a born and raised Calgarian. He grew up with a passion for animals, and always knew he wanted to work with them.

Steve graduated from the University of Calgary Faculty of Veterinary Medicine in 2013 and jump started his career in a busy 24 hour emergency hospital in Calgary. He worked a combination of days, evenings and overnights for a year and a half, then moved into primary care where he has been since.

Over the past few years he has developed an interest in telemedicine and in 2020, Co-Founded Vetsie, a veterinary telemedicine company.

Steve feels there is significant opportunity in the veterinary industry to utilize technology to improve the Veterinary – Client – Patient interaction.

With the current shortage of veterinarians and technicians, combined with the increase in pet ownership, there is too much pressure on the industry. Steve hopes that with more innovation and embracing change in how we practice, more pets can get the help they need, without the burnout and stress that often comes with being a veterinary professional.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Steve discusses:

How the pace of being a veterinarian can be a lot to keep up with
Veterinary burnout and taking on too much
How working night-shifts straight out of Vet school gave Steve multiple years worth of experience within months
Overcoming internal doubts around your own limitations and experience
Recognizing the signs of burnout and compassion fatigue to actively do something about it
Financing the life you want to live through creating more streams of revenue outside of being a Veterinarian
The genesis of starting Vetsie: A Veterinary Telemedicine Company
The case for Telemedicine in the Veterinary industry
High points and low points of being involved in a start-up

Thank you to Dr. Boyer for joining us on the show! For more information and to see what Vetsie is all about, check them out online:

www.vetsie.com

Connect with Steve in the following places:

steve@vetsie.com

@govetsie

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Is a strong work-ethic defined as working back-to-back 16-hour days?

Is a lazy work-ethic defined as a two-hour work week and the remainder of time spent on the beach?

Where is the happy middle ground (or does it not exist)?

In this episode, Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht provides musings and meanderings on the subject of work ethic.

Short and sweet, this conversation weaves through the topics of:

Work / life balance vs. work / life integration
What kinds of work ethic are sustainable
Big outcomes still take a long time to get to
Hard-work sprints and moments of rest

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

What would happen if as Veterinarians we all decided to invest in our mental health, well-being, and personal development?

It’s a great question, and one that this episode's guest vulnerably dives into with us.

Dr. Horner is a native of Clarksdale, Mississippi (Home of the Blues), but has called Georgia ‘home’ since 2001. She received her Bachelor’s degree in Biology in 2010 and Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine in 2015 from the University of Georgia. She currently practices small animal relief work part-time while building the mission and vision of Resilience Rising. She is extraordinarily passionate about mental health, well-being, mindfulness, leadership, and personal development.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Horner opens up in a variety of ways as we cover:

Her vulnerable personal journey through both work and life induced mental health challenges
Learning what's normal and abnormal when it comes to Vet Med Lifestyle
Using social media in an empowering way to speak about mental health as opposed to "dumping" online
The Resiliency Rising platform from which Dr. Horner is sharing her experiences
What's keeping people, specifically Veterinarians, from investing in their personal development

She and her fiance have two fur children of her own: Chance, a Golden Retriever, and Heidi, a German Shepherd, who all live together in West Midtown, Atlanta. Her favourite hobbies include running, lifting, hiking, cooking, reading self-development books, and travel. Random, fun fact: She is fully bilingual, with Spanish as her second language.

Thank you to Dr. Jacqui Horner for joining us on the show. To connect further with Dr. Horner you can find her at:

www.instagram.com/resiliencerisingvet

IG @resiliencerisingvet

www.resiliencerisingvet.com

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Are you living an intentional life or are you just taking what life gives you?

The reality is you have made a decision around goal setting whether you realize it or not.

And if you're going to live life to the fullest, does it not make sense to be intentionally creating what you want as opposed to merely receiving what comes your way?

In this episode of the show, Dr. Michael Bugg speaks on a subject for which he is deeply passionate about: goal setting.

The statistics show that 95% of people don’t set goals. It's our aim that if you haven't been a goal setter to date, or don't have a great goal setting process in place, that this episode will inspire you to take the next step in your goal setting practice.

It's time to get intentional with creating the future life you desire, as Dr. Michael Bugg shares the 5 steps in his goal setting process which includes:

Visualization:
Focusing on the FEELING, Eliminating the HOW, and DREAMING about what's possible
Sorting through your life pillars:
Ranking from 1-10 the three questions that help Mike narrow in on the goals to focus on
Breaking your goals down:
The 12 Week Year
Break your quarterly into weekly.
Dropping your recurring tasks and priorities into your weekly plan
The Sunday System
Daily Habits
The Miracle Morning
One Priority
Daily Progress

The best time to start is now. The best place to start is right where you are.

And remember: it’s the person you become in the process of working towards achieving your goals that is the biggest benefit to you and the quality of your life.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Would you rather be practicing veterinary medicine in a small town or in a big city?

If you ask Dr. Trevor Hook, you may find yourself convinced to go with the former!

Dr. Trevor Hook took his undergraduate studies in Animal Sciences at the University of Alberta and graduated with honours in Veterinary Medicine from the University of Saskatchewan in 2011.

After graduating, he started at Central Veterinary Clinic, a mixed animal practice in Ponoka, AB, where after he developed his skills out of school it didn't take long for him to question whether the grass was greener in other places. He decided to pursue other options back in the city, but quickly found himself drawn back to the shorter commutes, community relationships, and simpler life of being in a small town.

In 2015 he became a partner of Central Veterinary Clinic, right before the practice expanded into a new facility in 2016. He remains at the clinic to this day and they have recently established a second location.

Trevor received the ABVMA Young Veterinarian of the Year award in 2015 and was selected for the CVMA Emerging Leaders Program Program in 2018 and Central Veterinary Clinic has received multiple awards for its strong mentorship and teaching environment.

Trevor has special interest in equine performance horse medicine, orthopedic surgery and dairy herd management. He lives with his wife Deserae have 3 young children and if you don't find him at work, you will find him wrestling with his kids. In his spare time he enjoys spending time with his family in the outdoors, hiking, canoeing, mountain biking, adventure racing, and really playing any sport, especially hockey

In our conversation with Trevor we cover:

Deciding whether or not to chase the grass that MAY be greener on the other side
The pros of practicing veterinary medicine in rural communities
Creating a quality clinic culture in rural mixed practices
Mastering work / life integration
Why you've got to keep learning to create an interesting career for yourself
Trevor's open and honest take on the challenges of running and managing the business of veterinary practice
Building trust with your clients (it takes time!)

To connect with Trevor you can find him on social media and via e-mail:

IG: @hooktrevor

drhook@centralvetclinic.ca

Thank you for joining us on the show, Trevor!

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Whether you're a veterinary clinic owner, working on behalf of a corporation, or a veterinary professional employee, understanding contracts is essential to knowing what each party is responsible for within a working relationship.

In this conversation, host Dr. Jonathan Leicht shares his knowledge on the subject with direction from co-host Dr. Michael Bugg. Contracts lay out the terms of how the working relationship is going to go, and having been on both sides of the contract negotiations himself, Dr. Leicht provides important insights on what employers, and employees alike, should be aware of when working out the details of contracts including:

Why you want to have contracts crystal clear at the beginning of the working relationships
Contract flexibility over time - if you're adding value, your employer is going to see value in keeping you on board
Why if you don't ask, the answer is often no!
Expected pay rates for new grads coming out of school based on current industry standards
What comes first as an employee: selling your value upfront, or showing your value then negotiating later?
Understanding what you are being paid on (this depends on the clinic)
Understanding benefits, vacation time, and continuing education funds
The different payment models for Veterinarians
Why you should seek legal counsel on all contracts you are involved in (and always read the fine print!)
Providing proper notice as a professional

Contracts are always a conversation, so be sure to put everything on the table and talk about it.

Working through contracts may not always the most comfortable or enjoyable thing to do, but with a better understanding of the process and the components involved, we trust this episode will help you to better navigate your next contract talks.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Brooke Bulloch is a Registered Dietitian and CEO at Food to Fit Nutrition in Saskatoon, SK. She earned a BSc in Nutrition from the University of Saskatchewan and her work experience began with the Saskatoon Health Region in 2009, and she has been working in private practice since 2012.

Today her practice is comprised of a small team of dieticians with various expertise including: gastrointestinal disorders, chronic disease prevention, plant based eating, women’s health, and eating disorders.

Brooke is an experienced media spokesperson and has been contributing to Co-op’s in store Table Magazine and online Food Blog since 2019. Since 2011 Brooke has been featured in a variety of Canadian press including: CBC radio, The Globe and Mail, Huffington Post, Canadian Living, Chatelaine, Cottage Life Magazine, Inside Fitness, and has a monthly segment on Saskatoon’s Global News Morning.

As a working mom and business owner, Brooke values simplicity and sustainability in nutrition planning, along with a curious and flexible non-diet approach to food and eating.

Our conversation with Brooke covers a number of quality topics including:

What a Registered Dietitian does
What the basics of nutrition are (a refresher, cause we all need more of this) - making sure you're eating enough!
Differentiating between dieting and nutritional planning
Brooke's parenting approach for molding children's nutritional understanding
Having a healthy relationship with food, specifically, patterns of eating
Recommendations for working professionals in fast-paced environments
Portion control (external controls versus internal cues)
Functional eating versus eating to satisfaction
Intermittent fasting in relation to longevity
What's the real deal around carbs and carb cravings?

This truly was a jam-packed, educational conversation, so a big thank you to Brooke for coming on the show!

Did you enjoy this episode with Brooke? Find out more about what she does online and follow her on social media:

Food to Fit Nutrition Inc.

https://foodtofit.ca/

@foodtofit_nutrition

@brookebullochrd

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Sometimes you have be willing to pause, reflect, and take a step back to find what works best for you.

And this episode's guest is a testament to that line of action.

Dr. Kerri Nelson grew up in Denver, Colorado. She is a graduate of Kansas State University and completed a rotating internship at Wheat Ridge Animal Hospital. She initially started down the path toward becoming a criticalist, but made the difficult decision to leave a critical care program in New York after 6 months. She moved back to Denver and fortunately was able to reconnect with her love for emergency medicine.

After working at a large specialty hospital in a Denver suburb for 2 years, she joined “ Veterinary Emergency Group” in 2019. She is currently the Medical Director of VEG Denver, which opened in September of 2020.

Dr. Nelson loves managing critical cases, especially sepsis, metabolic and acid-base derangements, and polytrauma. She is passionate about teaching, and loves working for a company that gives her the opportunity to train newly graduated veterinarians.

In our conversation with Dr. Nelson, we cover:

Making the difficult decision of leaving the critical care program in New York after 6 months
Overcoming challenging work environments and doubters - was told she'd never get a job if leave.
The power of positive mentorship
How VEG is leading the new frontier of client-focused veterinary clinics, where owners can see and be involved in everything
The role of a Medical Director at an emergency clinic

Outside of veterinary medicine, Dr. Nelson can be found running marathons, skiing, riding horses, reading books on leadership and personal growth, and spending lots of time with family and friends.

Thank you Kerri for taking the time to share with us on the show!

To connect with Kerri you can find her here:

Instagram: @dr.kerrinelson

E-mail: kerrinelson@veg.vet

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

When some strange case comes through that door that you’ve never seen before, do you panic? Or trust your process? 🤔

On this episode, we're diving into the world of veterinary radiology with Dr. Alex zur Linden.

Dr. Alex zur Linden is a W.C.V.M 2008 grad. He completed a rotating internship in southern California and a residency in diagnostic imaging in Ames, Iowa. He is a diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Radiology (ACVR) and is currently the section chief of diagnostic imaging at the Ontario Veterinary College in Guelph, Ontario, Canada.

In our conversation we explore:

Alex's road to radiology
What it means to be in a faculty position
The vast scope of work available to radiologists
...And some of his personal life (which is basically just crushing weights and growing hair). 💪

Our conversation has some cool turns in it as we discuss facing adversity and trusting your process as well as setting up your environment (personally and professionally) to enrich your life.

Thank you to Dr. zur Linden for joining us on the show this week!

To connect with Dr. zur Linder, you can find him on Instagram helping students with additional cases (others too)

@Zurlinden_radiology

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This week Dr. Kristin Kirkby Shaw joins us for one of our most in depth, tactic filled conversations.

Kristin is a double boarded surgeon and rehabilitation specialist, successful business woman, wife and entrepreneur, yet even with all this success at times she’s struggled to define her place in veterinary medicine.

Listen as she shares her non-linear journey through the industry, gaining experience and maturity along the path to determining her niche within her specialty. She shares her personal mission statement for the first time in order to be able to confidently say in 2021 that she has “made it”, even as she gets ready to embark on the next chapter in her veterinary career.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

We're kicking off 2021 on The Veterinary Project Podcast with a conversation around health and fitness with Personal Trainer Brad Posehn.

Brad is a graduate of the College of Kinesiology at the University of Saskatchewan. He has spent the last 11 + years training several athletes in the NHL, KHL, AHL, NLL, NCAA, as well as the National and Provincial level in various sports such as volleyball, figure skating, football, lacrosse, swimming, and golf.

As a co-founder of JB Performance Training in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Brad helped hundreds of athletes reach their goals through emphasizing proper movement patterns and catering programs to their sport and its specific demands from a biomechanical and physiological level.

Now, as the owner of Absolute Performance Centre in Calgary, Alberta he is looking to continue that trend in a positive and supportive environment.

In this episode, we cover a number of health and fitness related topics that are going to help you lead the healthy life you want this upcoming year including:

What Brad sees in people who stay inspired/motivated beyond January and stick to a regular fitness plan
The differences between exercise and training
The differences between athletes vs the everyday person
How the everyday person can benefit from training like an athlete
What makes an effective workout and how do you create one
Debunking some of the myths around fitness
Lessons learned working through COVID In one of the hardest hit industries

Thank you to Brad for joining us on this edition of the show. If you'd like to connect with Brad you can find him here:

Instagram: @brad.posehn

www.absoluteperformancecentre.com

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20 interviews, 841 minutes of recorded audio, and a whole lot of fun!

It's been an enjoyable time delivering The Veterinary Project Podcast, and as 2020 winds down Dr. Michael Bugg and Dr. Jonathan Leicht take a look back on both the past 10 episodes of The Veterinary Project Podcast and the year as a whole.

In this short and sweet episode, Mike and Jonathan share:

Insights from each co-host's perspective
Themes observed from guests over the past 10 interview episodes
Pros and cons of the podcasting process
What's coming up in 2021!

Lastly, we've got a SPECIAL INVITE for all the listeners . . .

We're GOING LIVE!

On Wednesday December 23rd at 5:00pm PST / 6:00pm MST / 8:00pm EST, we'll be doing a LIVE "ask the hosts" edition of the show on Instagram! Head on over to @theveterinaryproject to join us for some rum and egg nog. It's going to be a spirited affair sure to bring some cheer to your world with the holidays just around the corner - see you there!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

In this edition of The Veterinary Project Podcast we're sitting down with the President of Mosaic Veterinary Partners and former CEO of Moore Equine Veterinary Centre, Dr. Greg Andrews.

Dr. Greg Andrews is an equine veterinarian who has practiced in Southern Alberta for 35 years. Until recently he was the CEO of Moore Equine Veterinary Centre, the largest equine practice in Canada. He is currently the president of Mosaic Veterinary Partners, a mixed animal group of practices and chairs the Board of Directors of Inova Partners, a successful veterinary software company that services complex veterinary practices worldwide.

He has been the President of the Alberta Veterinary Medical Association and the Western Canadian Association of Equine Practitioners. Additionally he has served on the advisory boards of the University of Calgary School of Veterinary Medicine and the Western College of Veterinary Medicine in Saskatoon.

In our wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Andrews and us dive into:

Greg's start in mixed animal practice before moving to the racetrack
Evolution into building and owning the largest Canadian Equine practice Moore with his partners
The challenges and long hours involved in building a business
State of veterinary medicine in 2020
Changing roles in veterinary medicine
Greg's hot-take on work-life balance
Involvement in veterinary medicine technology companies

Greg currently resides in Ta Ta creek, British Columbia with his wife Gail where he pursues outdoor activities and competition while enjoying his grandchildren and continued business pursuits.

Thank you to Dr. Andrews for joining us on the show.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Why not have your cake and eat it too?

That’s exactly what Dr. Sarah Bater has done with her veterinary career! Combining her love of clinical practice and her desire for continual learning and a deeper understanding, Sarah splits her time between clinical practice and teaching veterinary students.

Sarah was born and raised in Saskatoon, SK, and is one of four children (and a real group of over-achievers). After completing an honours degree in Biochemistry at the U of S, Sarah moved to Toronto, ON to pursue a Ph.D. in Neuroscience (specifically understanding and researching treatments for spinal cord injuries). After 5.5 years in the big city, Sarah decided it was time to move home.

She did a brief post-doctoral fellowship at the University of Saskatchewan, before she was accept to the Western College of Veterinary Medicine and graduated in 2017. Sarah works part-time in small animal clinical practice, and part-time at WCVM teaching in the first year curriculum.

Sarah sees companion animals and exotic pets in clinical practice; however, her true love in veterinary medicine is surgery. She does not love managing cats with endocrine diseases.

Sarah is married to her husband, Daniel, and has 2 step-children. Daniel and Sarah are expecting their first child together in February 2021. Whenever Sarah is not working, she can be found spending time with her kids outside, baking, training for a triathlon, or at the lake!

The multi-faceted Veterinarian, Professor, and Mother has certainly carved out a unique path in Veterinary Medicine, and among many interesting places our conversation dives into:

Sarah's path to becoming a veterinarian
The Job Juggle of hybrid careers (teaching as a professor and practicing in clinics)
Euthanasia and the soft skills required to be sharp in this area

Thank you to Dr. Sarah Bater for taking the time to share her insights on the show!

To connect with Sarah you can do so via e-mail to sarah.bater@usask.ca

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Dr. Lauren Adelman earned her veterinary degree from the University of Calgary in 2012 where she was part of the inaugural class.

Following graduation, she completed a small animal rotating internship at VCA West Los Angeles Animal Hospital followed by a one year specialty internship in emergency and critical care at North Carolina State University.

Dr. Adelman then moved to Knoxville where she completed a three year small animal internal medicine residency at the University of Tennessee. She achieved diplomate status in the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine Specialty of Small Animal Internal Medicine in 2017.

Dr. Adelman is currently practicing at Canada West Veterinary Specialists in Vancouver, BC., where her particular areas of interest include gastroenterology, nephrology and urology, and infectious disease. She is trained to perform a variety of state of the art minimally-invasive procedures.

Our conversation includes:

Working through the rejection of not matching on her first internship residency
What life is like completing a residency
What Lauren does as an Internal Medicine Specialist
Discussion on how Dr. Adelman completes minimally invasive procedures
The struggles of achieving work/life balance
How she's handled how emotionally exhausting the profession can be
How she's managing working with difficult pet owners
Dealing with COVID-19, maintaining sanity and how Lauren think's specialty medicine may change as a result

We are very happy to have Dr. Lauren Adelman join The Veterinary Project Podcast for this enjoyable, educational conversation.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

In this weeks episode, Kate Simon, RVT, VTS (ECC) shares her journey from being fired at her first job to completing her VTS in 2017 becoming one of the top .1% educated technologists in North America. Kate leads a team of passionate individuals, helps guide the veterinary profession as a member of multiple veterinary councils and is not afraid to share her opinions on how veterinary technologists need to play a larger role in the future of the veterinary industry.

In our conversation we cover:

How she worked through tough times early in her career including being laid off and getting bullied at work
Working as a Veterinary Technician in emergency care
Transitioning into management roles out of clinic necessity and making the adjustment
A spicy back and forth conversation to the elements that are continuing to change veterinary medicine for technologists
What does it mean to be a VTS Technologist, and why should Veterinarians want them in their practices
Discussing the "shortage" of Vet Techs and how to improve it
Advocating for Veterinary Technologists and their role in animal care

Kate is currently one of the Alberta representatives to the RVTTC and is an RVT on ABVMA Council. She has a passion to elevate and promote the profession by supporting and instilling confidence in new graduates and people returning to the field.

Thank you Kate for taking the time to speak with us, the Veterinary Project community thanks you too.

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Any questions, comments, feedback, or requests for guests can also be sent to theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Welcome to this edition of The Veterinary Project Podcast with Dr. Tannetje Crocker.

Dr. Crocker is a 2009 graduate from the Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine.

Upon graduation, she completed an equine focused internship in Southern California., then she worked as a solo equine ambulatory practitioner for three years before transitioning to small animal medicine.

She currently practices in Grapevine, Texas at Northwest Animal Hospital and the Animal Emergency Hospital of North Texas. She is passionate about mentorship and empowering both veterinary students and young veterinarians to embrace the profession and find joy and success.

In our wide-ranging conversation with Doctor Crocker, we discuss:

How the seasons of life have an effect on career
Her journey from equine only over to small animal and the factors that influenced this decision
Having an identity in veterinary medicine
The importance of support systems and mentorship
How Dr. Crocker practices living intentionally
Life doesn't need to have a how-to guide - avoid the need to know every step!

We also go off on a couple of interesting and informative tangents around social media and running a practice with the principals of training your clients well!

Thank you to Tannetje for taking the time to join us on the show.

If you'd like to connect with Dr. Crocker, you find her online at:

www.drcrockerpetvet.com

And on Instagram @dr.tannetje.crocker

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This week we are excited to have another expert join us on the Veterinary Project Podcast: Vicki Pollard.

Vicki Pollard is an Architect and Partner at Animal Arts and brings us a unique conversation discussing her career as both an award winning architect and certified veterinary technician. Vicki and the team at Animal Arts specialize in veterinary hospital design, from small general practices to large specialty and emergency facilities, and her experience provided her the ability to co-author her book, the " Practical Guide to Veterinary Hospital Design".

Vicki lives in Colorado with a small menagerie that includes her husband, three children, their dog, a bearded dragon, and two beta fish.

In this wide ranging conversation we discuss :

Vicki's unique career path
Following her passion into the veterinary field
What architectural design looks like in 2020 within the context of the Covid Pandemic and the changing needs of veterinary spaces
This is a fun conversation that will be sure to engage you, make you think about your own career and widen your view on what's possible.

If you've interested in connect with Vicki you can do so through e-mail to: Vicki@animalarts.com

And you can check out Animal Arts online at: www.animalarts.com

Thank you again to Vicki for taking the time to come on the show!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Ostriches, volunteering in Africa, giving birth on the way to open a new vet clinic, and pizza for breakfast! This conversation has a little bit of everything!

Dr. Elaine Klemmensen takes us on her journey of almost 30 years in the veterinary profession. Stepping into fear along the way, Elaine and her husband Rob got intentional about the life they wanted to create. Driven by their vision, Elaine shares many of her stories and struggles as she learned to lead in veterinary medicine.

After graduating from WCVM in 1991, Elaine’s adventures in veterinary medicine have included associate, practice owner, locum and volunteer with eight organizations in seven different countries. Passionate about leadership, development, and workplace culture, she recently embarked on her latest adventure, founding Evolve Leadership Coaching and Consulting where she is determined to help veterinary leaders discover the “secret sauce” that will move their team from surviving to thriving.

In our energetic conversation with Elaine we talk about:

The struggles of learning without intentional mentorship
The importance of a "learning from mistake" mentality
Creating a practice where people love coming to work every day
Finding people that share your vision, and why shared values matter most
Creating space for reflection
Navigating the waters of selling a practice in a small town
Elaine's "Secret Sauce" for leadership and management
The Impact Round

Thank you to Elaine for carving out some time to share her experience and wisdom on our show!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Welcome to part II of our two-part deep dive interview with Dr. Devin Nobert.

If you haven't listened to part I of the interview we highly recommend listening to that episode before completing this one, as it will provide context for the remainder of our conversation here.

In Part II, our conversation moves more towards Devin's healing process through the many challenges he has faced. We also touch on the mental attitude required to handle adversity, to overcome obstacles, and to use vulnerability and truth to move through the many emotions faced when going to tough battles in life.

Devin's story is a truly amazing one and we're incredibly grateful for having him share his story with the Veterinary Project Community.

Devin's Bio:

Dr. Devin Nobert was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta. He obtained a B.A. in Psychology at the University of Calgary before deciding to shift course and pursue a career in Veterinary Medicine.

In 2004 he moved to Saskatoon with his high school sweet heart wife, a 1 year old daughter and a Bichon Shih-Tzu in tow and started vet school at the WCVM. After a major road bump during second year vet school forced him to put his schooling on hold for a full year, he returned to his studies and graduated with a DVM in 2009.

Devin joined the Fish Creek 24 Emergency Pet Hospital family early on as a student in 2006. He was hired as an emergency vet right after graduation in 2009. He has continued to face multiple health related “road bumps” but he has also managed to become both a partner and manager at this exceptionally busy and successful emergency hospital as well as their sister clinic, Little Creek Vet Clinic.

He currently practices primary vet medicine part-time at Little Creek. Outside of vet medicine he is a full time dad to 3 kids, including 2 teenagers. And finally, he is a pinball wizard, golf junkie and music fanatic, and loves to combine either of these passions with travel!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Welcome to this week's edition of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

This episode is part I of a 2-part deep dive interview with Dr. Devin Nobert.

Dr. Devin Nobert was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta. He obtained a B.A. in Psychology at the University of Calgary before deciding to shift course and pursue a career in Veterinary Medicine.

In 2004 he moved to Saskatoon with his high school sweet heart wife, a 1 year old daughter and a Bichon Shih-Tzu in tow and started vet school at the WCVM. After a major road bump during second year vet school forced him to put his schooling on hold for a full year, he returned to his studies and graduated with a DVM in 2009.

Devin joined the Fish Creek 24 Emergency Pet Hospital family early on as a student in 2006. He was hired as an emergency vet right after graduation in 2009. He has continued to face multiple health related “road bumps” but he has also managed to become both a partner and manager at this exceptionally busy and successful emergency hospital as well as their sister clinic, Little Creek Vet Clinic.

He currently practices primary vet medicine part-time at Little Creek. Outside of vet medicine he is a full time dad to 3 kids, including 2 teenagers. And finally, he is a pinball wizard, golf junkie and music fanatic, and loves to combine either of these passions with travel!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

If you've ever wanted to hear about a veterinarian that has experienced adversity within her family and career, consciously decided to take charge of her life and is succeeding in 2020 then this is the episode for you!

This week we have a great conversation lined up with Dr. Jennifer Koehl!

Dr. Jennifer Koehl is a 2008 graduate from the University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine. She practiced small animal medicine outside of Philadelphia as an associate veterinarian for 4 years before beginning a combination of part-time and relief work. In 2017, she began teaching Biology and Human Physiology labs as Adjunct Faculty for Penn State University’s Commonwealth campus. In 2019, Jennifer was offered a full-time faculty appointment, serving as an Instructor of Biology.

In this episode we talk through the progression of her career starting in 2008 at the height of the financial recession, her and her husband making the difficult choice to move away from friends and family, Jen deciding to steer her career in the path that she wanted to as opposed to settling and playing the victim. We finish off with a deep discussion on her side project as the creator and administrator of a Facebook Group called DVMoms: GAIN, a private page for veterinary mothers in government, academic, industry, and non-clinical positions. The page serves as a discussion board as well as a location for non-traditional veterinary job postings.

You're in for a ride with this episode that is full of jewels, specific takeaways and actions for anyone that may be looking for something different in their veterinary career.

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

Welcome to a very special 10th episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

We thought we'd take an episode to look back, sharing some of the insights we've had in reflecting on our time getting to this point including:

Some of our highlights from the guests we've had the pleasure of interviewing
What we've learned about each other as partners, as hosts, and as members of the veterinary community
What we've struggled with along the way

What a ride it has been...3 months in and 10 episodes and counting, it's been a roller coaster journey but we're loving it all the more as The Veterinary Project continues to evolve.

To conclude we paint a picture of where we're heading, sharing our focus points for future episodes as we continue to have more conversations, exceptional guests, and bring on new components to the Project.

To each and every one of you who have taken the time to listen to our show, we sincerely thank you. This is a passion project of ours and it means an incredible amount that this show has found a home in the veterinary community. From Australia to Sweden to our homeland in Canada, we have loved the response and feedback we're getting, and truly appreciate that the show is resonating with veterinary professionals everywhere.

Let's keep The Veterinary Project rolling and have some more fun!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This week we are excited to be joined by Dr. Jaime Perkins.

Dr. Jamie Perkins is a 2017 DVM graduate and is currently a tenure track assistant professor of veterinary medicine at the University of Arizona College of Veterinary Medicine. Prior to joining the Arizona-CVM, she was an Assistant Professor within the Lincoln Memorial University College of Veterinary Medicine Center for Innovation in Veterinary Education and Technology (CIVET).

Dr. Perkins has won international awards for development of novel veterinary education tools, including those on Amazon Alexa’s platform. She has authored over 26-E Books and has received over $400,000.00 in intra and extramural research funding to date, and is currently tackling multiple projects to advance veterinary education using technology.

Topics of this unique conversation include:

Innovative projects using Alexa skills through Amazon to teach veterinary students communication skills in an advanced interactive manner
Winning the 2018 Hyperdrive contest at the DevLearn Conferences and how she’s turned that into a large USDA grant working on multiple projects
How she leads her team while continuing to gain knowledge from key mentors

Thank you to Jaime for taking the time to come on the show and share the details of numerous projects that are making an impact in the education of veterinary professionals.

For further information related to all of Jaime’s projects please check out:

https://bit.ly/2RPK3hd

https://bit.ly/3kJCQvp

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This week we chat with Dr. Brent Mayabb, DVM and Global Chief Medical Officer with Royal Canin to speak about personal finances and Brent’s own money journey coming out of vet school with $88,000 in debt.

This episode is for anyone currently struggling with their money mindset. Additionally, it's for anyone that may be feeling unable to lift the burden of bills from their shoulders, as well as those looking for options on how to move forward in their personal money journey.

In this conversation, we're diving deep into topics such as:

How to get started on the path towards financial literacy
Your personal money story
A scarcity vs abundance mindset
Building momentum in your financial journey, including the "snowball method" of debt reduction
What is an emergency fund
Why we need more conversations about personal finance in the veterinary industry
Working around the guilt associated with getting paid what you're worth as a veterinary professional

A big thank you to Brent for joining us to start the conversation on this incredibly important topic, a conversation that everyone needs to be having in veterinary medicine.

Suggested resources Brent referred to on the show:

Thomas J. Stanley's book: The Millionaire Next Door
Dave Ramsey
Ramit Sethi - I Will Teach You To Be Rich

If you'd like to connect with Brent you can do so in the following places:

LinkedIn: Brent Mayabb

E-mail Direct: drmayabb@gmail.com

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This week we're speaking with CEO and co-owner of Central Veterinary Services in Oak Bluff, Manitoba, Canada, Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell.

Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell is a University of Manitoba B.Sc. Honours in Biochemistry 2007 grad, Western College of Veterinary Medicine (Saskatoon, Canada) 2011 grad, veterinary clinic owner since April 2012, and most importantly, a Mom as of November 2012.

She is adamant about making a positive impact on the veterinary industry by running a progressive veterinary business and leading by example. She is learning to enjoy the platform that a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine degree provides, allowing her to pursue her passion for helping people, and using the flexibility that her chosen profession allows to create her family’s ideal life. Currently this includes spending as much time as possible with her co-owner husband, Dr. David Snell, and their 3 young children doing all the family things.

In our conversation, Stephanie aims to help others involved in veterinary businesses by sharing what she has learned over the past 8 years from personal development to business management and operations. She also shares the drive behind her mission of “doing veterinary business better”, exploring how her and her husband Dave continue to lead within the veterinary industry.

Topics we cover include:

The learning curve of both being a new practicing vet AND a new veterinary practice owner
Finding the resources required to be successful as a practice owner
Support for veterinarians and practice owners who want to work and raise a family simultaneously
The keys to creating great clinic culture
The Impact Round!

If you want to get in touch with Stephanie you can find her on social media:

@dr.stephanie_vandeynze_snell

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This episode we're sitting down with resiliency specialist and multi-award winning psychology and education instructor Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe!

Robyne specializes in resiliency, navigating stress and change, leadership, and personal wellness in the workplace. Described as transformational, engaging, and thought-provoking, Robyne’s keynotes provide practical strategies grounded in global research and case studies that help foster resiliency within others and ourselves. Robyne is available for consultation, training and professional development opportunities ranging from one-to-one to company-wide initiatives.

With nearly two decades of researching and teaching all things resiliency, Robyne is here to remind you that your survival rate of doing difficult things is 100%. You are well equipped to navigate uncertain times and difficult tasks, both personally and professionally.

In our conversation we cover:

What is resiliency and what does it look like?
Robyne's 5 core competencies
Why do we get so stressed?
Cognitive nimbleness and malleable thinking for being adaptable
How to approach the times when you fall off on your goals
Ways to deal with in the moment stress
Autopilot mode and losing awareness "the better we are at our job, the more on autopilot we are; the more we may be unaware of our state"
- Resiliency as a skill to be learned
- Numerous wellness and resiliency practices to implement today
- The Impact Round

Additional resources from Robyne:

Robyne's TedX talk: Prediction And Resiliency - Finding the Shared Experience https://youtu.be/43adV3m5w3M

Papers: Everyday Resiliency and Resilience in Uncertain Times: https://robynehd.ca/open-resources/

Find out more about Robyne and connect online at https://robynehd.ca/

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This Wednesday we are joined by Dr. Helen Newton!

Helen is a 2008 WCVM, Saskatoon graduate. Her story is fantastic and will be sure to resonate with many listeners this week!

Helen started out in practice in Southeast Texas working in a busy mixed animal practice before traveling the world, finding love and eventually coming back to Canada where she now works as the Western Canadian Veterinary Communication Manager with the Nestle Purina PetCare group.

In this episode, we discuss:

Seeking opportunities by being uncomfortable
World travel
The Veterinary Nutrition Industry
How to setup yourself up for positions outside of associate DVM roles

Thank you to Dr. Helen Newton for coming on the show, she was a pleasure to have as a guest!

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Jonathan Leicht, DVM and Michael Bugg, DVM

This week we’re spending time with Dr. Dan Katz.

Dan is a 2016 OVC grad living and working in Calgary, Alberta. Dan splits his time between ER medicine and providing locum support in multiple GP practices.

During his time at OVC, he travelled to eleven countries with the assistance of awards, travel grants and bursaries and was president of Global Vets, OVC branch.

In this episode we discuss:

Dan starting in emergency medicine without an internship
How he paid off his $50,000 student debt in 11 months by living frugally and earning extra money through side hustles
Exploring his love of travel
How he’s connected that passion to veterinary medicine through spay neuter clinic initiatives and the love of sharing adventure with others

For those of you that are new into your career and need to pay off student debt, or decades in and looking for a new spark - this episode is for you!

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Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Welcome back to The Veterinary Project Podcast! In this episode, Jonathan and Mike are sitting down with TedX Speaker and Practicing Veterinarian Dr. Melanie Bowden!

"A veterinary practice should be like a family. Create a work place that is meaningful with a positive culture - it's an opportunity to create a community"

Dr. Melanie Bowden is passionate about starting a revolution in the veterinary industry. By developing better partnerships between veterinarians and pet owners, she hopes to build a better future for the veterinary profession and the animals we all love.

Dr. Bowden is a graduate of WSU College of Veterinary Medicine and a practicing veterinarian with active licenses in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Maine and New Hampshire.

Having worked in corporate, family-owned and emergency clinic settings, Dr. Bowden has witnessed first-hand the burn-out, compassion fatigue, and emotional exhaustion that is plaguing the veterinary industry. In 2020, Dr. Bowden will launch her business, Vacation Vet LLC, to provide relief veterinary services to veterinary clinics throughout the PNW and New England.

Dr. Bowden will be filling in when veterinarians need time off for vacations, conferences, sick leave or just because a clinic is under-staffed. She hopes through her relief work she can help lighten the load on other veterinarians, help them achieve better work/life balance, and raise awareness about burnout and suicide in the veterinary field.

In her conversation with Jonny and Mike, Melanie dives into a number of personal experiences and education topics including:

Not recognizing the signs of burnout and how she worked her way out of it
Identifying when a role isn't working for you and pivoting into something else
How to be vulnerable when speaking to an audience
How to make veterinary medicine work for your lifestyle
Ways of managing the guilt caused by not being able to help everyone
Why relief work may be right for you
What it means to "train the client" - being proactive and have effective client discussions
Why you don’t get what you deserve in life, you get what you negotiate
Looking at clinic culture - the differences between corporate vs private
The future of veterinary leadership
The Impact Round!
Final words of wisdom

Her TedX talk has been viewed over 300,000 times and you can it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objP3E625Xo&feature=youtu.be

Want to get in touch with Melanie directly? You can do so through:

IG @vacationvet

www.melaniebowden.com

Please note we did our best to limit some of the audio difficulties we were having with this episode. While technology is great, every so often there's a day when the internet lags behind. We hope you didn't mind it too much!

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Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Welcome to another edition of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

In this episode, Jonny and Mike are sitting down with Anesthesiologist and National Medical Director of Specialty Medicine for VCA Canada, Dr Craig Mosley.

Dr. Mosley graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College where he also completed a residency and Master’s of Science program in veterinary anesthesia. He has been actively involved in many facets of veterinary medicine since graduation including; mixed animal practice, critical care medicine, teaching, management and of course, anesthesia in both private and academic practices throughout North America. Dr. Mosley’s varied experiences have provided him with the foundation for his practical and “real-world” approach to anesthesia and pain management. His wider interests in veterinary medicine include innovations in veterinary medicine, the science of clinical decision-making and medical errors.

In addition to his role as the National Medical Director, Specialty Medicine for VCA Canada, Dr. Mosley works as a part-time Staff Anesthesiologist at VCA Canada, 404 Veterinary Emergency and Referral Hospital in Newmarket, Ontario.

In his spare time, Dr. Mosley spends time exploring the outdoors with his veterinary anesthesiologist wife and two young daughters.

Topics of this wide-ranging conversation with Craig include:

Why career trajectory is about collecting experiences that contribute to who we are today
Recognizing veterinary medicine is an amazing "fall-back plan" if you ever want to step out and try something new
Why you get more rewards from doing the things that appear to be the scariest or hardest to do at first
Mentorship and being okay to ask for help
Being willing to share ideas with others
An extended discussion with perspectives around the future of veterinary medicine
The Impact Round!

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast.

Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Welcome to the 1st guest interview of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

And who better to take the inaugural interview honours than the current Saskatchewan Veterinary Medicine Association (SVMA) President and owner at Weir Veterinary Services, Kent Weir.

Kent comes from a long line of veterinarians (he is number 8 of 9 in the family) and was born and raised on the prairies in Lloydminster. He graduated from the W.C.V.M in 2007, then spent 6 months in Uganda through Vets Without Borders working on a goat project, before returning to Saskatchewan to spend 6 years in the world’s most amazing small town of Langenburg, SK.

In 2014, he returned to Lloydminster to practice with his father at the family practice that his Grandfather started in 1952.

As you'll hear throughout our conversation, Kent thoroughly loves his job as a veterinarian and cannot imagine doing anything else.

Join co-hosts Michael Bugg, DVM and Jonathan Leicht, DVM as the trio covers topics including:

What it's like coming from a family of veterinarians
Learning the importance at an early age of how to provide value through your service
Connecting working at Canadian Tire with being a veterinarian
Why veterinary medicine is a service industry
How Kent serves people as both an owner and as a veterinarian
How to provide value for your clients (even if you aren't sure what you're doing)!
Being present
Mistakes - everyone makes them, big and small, it's about the learning curve
Why you shouldn't view vet school as a competition, but as a community for future collaboration
Kent Weir's responses to the Impact Round!
Final words of wisdom

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast

Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

It takes two to tango on the Veterinary Project Podcast! We had Jonny on the hot-seat in our last episode, so now the script has flipped and we're excited to get to know the other half of the show's hosting duo: Michael Bugg, DVM

Michael got his start in Veterinary Medicine at a much earlier age than most, stepping into Vet school at the ripe young age of 19 and completing his DVM by 23. Getting into the profession at such a young age may suggest that Michael had his sights set on being a Vet his entire life, but as Mike shares his story it becomes clear that there were many events, experiences, and beliefs working in the background that led him to a number of defining moments - moments that ultimately led him down the path he is currently on today.

Jonathan Leicht, DVM leads the interview with his co-host as we cover topics including:

An introduction to Michael Bugg, DVM
How an early family event changed Michael's outlook on academia
Moving fast! "I guess I'm going to Vet school!"
Michael's young and unique path to get to Vet school and, looking back now, how to make the most of it
The importance of mentorship in the early stages of your career and during Vet school
The realization of being DVM at 23. "What the hell have I done? I have to do this for 40 years?"
Why Michael felt trapped before even getting started, and why he buried the feelings of guilt, shame, and anxiety
Michael's personal finance manifesto...and why it turned out to be NOT true
Soul searching backpacking trips in Australia and New Zealand - the spark that led to a curiosity in real estate investing
Why Michael chose to invest in real estate over investing in a Veterinary clinic
Burn out, depression, overwhelm, and the evolution of "Miserable Mike"
Why Michael bottled up his misery for so long before finally, out of desperation, making the change
How he made the change - the journey into personal development
"If I want to make a change in my life, I can, if I decide to do it"
What its like to face the identity crisis of no longer being a practicing Veterinarian
Pivoting from Veterinary practice to helping develop wellness in Veterinary professionals
What the Veterinary Project Podcast means to Michael Bugg - helping Veterinary professionals improves their lives
What's next for Michael Bugg?
The conscious awareness of building a personal lifestyle by design
The Rapid Fire Finale!
Final words of wisdom

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We'd love it if you joined us for The Veterinary Project journey and connected with our community of like-minded Veterinary professionals. Send us an email at theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Facebook group.

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast

Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Welcome to the first full-length interview episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast!

In this episode we're getting to know one-half of the podcast's hosting duo: Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Jonathan started as a volunteer at a large Calgary veterinary hospital as a 13 year old and 20+ years later became the General Manager of that very same location. Jonathan has had a diverse career to this point filled with an equally unique pallet of life experiences which we explore in this episode.

Graduating from the Western College of Veterinary Medicine in 2009, Jonathan has gone on to practice in general and emergency settings, manage key accounts with a pharmaceutical company across the west half of North America and work his way up to the role of Specialty Director of 6 large hospitals with VCA Canada.

And while we very well could have in-depth conversation with Jonathan surrounding veterinary hospital operations, management, and business strategy, this episode is focused on getting to know the man, his story, and his approach towards life.

Co-host Michael Bugg, DVM leads the conversation with Jonathan as we touch on topics including:

Introductory background and how Jonathan got started on the path to veterinary medicine
Stories of many unique life experiences including joining the military, game ranger responsibilities in South Africa, and moving to Seattle
"Framing everything as positive"
Jonathan's drive behind always pushing himself..."I would rather say yes, take a chance and fail, than say no and never have had the opportunity"
Overcoming fear of failure by compounding habits and empowering beliefs
Being willing to take on any task - the mindset of figuring it out, getting it done, and not waiting for somebody else.
The steep learning curve coming out of school and going into practice
Why there is always stress involved in achieving any success from his perspective
The intent behind The Veterinary Project Podcast
Surrounding yourself with the right people
Insights into running the day-to-day operations of veterinary businesses
What's next for Jonathan Leicht?
The Rapid Fire Finale!

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We'd love it if you joined us for The Veterinary Project journey and connected with our community of like-minded veterinary professionals. Send us an email at theveterinaryprojectpodcast@gmail.com and we'll get you connected to our private Facebook group.

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Thank you for listening and we look forward to seeing you next Wednesday for another episode of The Veterinary Project Podcast

Michael Bugg, DVM & Jonathan Leicht, DVM

Welcome to The Veterinary Project Podcast with hosts Dr. Michael Bugg, DVM, and Dr. Jonathan Leicht, DVM.

This is a show created by vets, featuring absolutely no pets!

We've swapped out our stethoscopes for microphones to bring you real conversations, aimed to connect this amazing profession full of remarkable people. Through the sharing of our collective stories and wisdom, and connecting over the many unique challenges we face, we invite you to join our community of veterinary professionals leading intentional lives.

With weekly episodes upcoming, featuring our own personal stories as well as the stories of many fellow veterinary professionals, this is a place you can coming back to, helping you connect with like-minded individuals across the industry on matters that extend far beyond the workplace.

We are committed to growing the show as we begin our launch, so if you know of others that may benefit from these discussions, we’d love it if you shared the podcast and gave us a quick subscribe and review. This helps us reach more and more listeners just like you!

We appreciate your support and thank you so much for listening!

Dr. Michael Bugg & Dr. Jonathan Leicht