More Than Small Talk with Suzanne, Holley, & Jennifer (KLRC): Recent Episodes
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Suzie Eller, Holley Gerth and Jennifer Watson, authors and real-life friends, invite you each week to go deeper, become freer and feel more connected. Every episode includes a confession question as well as helpful truths, tips and resources. If you want more peace and less stress, more vulnerability and less trying to be perfect, more hope and less hustle this is the podcast for you.
It may feel too big but God blesses when we show up with what we have.
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How do we love our neighbors well in our overwhelming world? So many of us are asking that question, and Katrina Reimer helps us answer it. As the Entrepreneurial Outreach Coordinator for Canopy, she talks about what it means to be a welcoming community and why it matters now.
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Canopy
Jennifer shares an excerpt from her new book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
How do we make our way through grief? It’s not as simple as a few stages; it’s a deeper journey. Lisa Appelo has walked the path of loss, and she joins us as a gentle guide who offers honesty and hope.
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God of Comfort by Lisa Appelo
Jennifer encourages us to rest and take the time we need for our bodies and soul and reminds us that we dwell with Him from a place of rest and renewal, not striving and producing.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
In a world full of screens, how can we stay engaged in real life and our relationships? We share experiences that have made us feel more alive, how our five senses can help us, and small ways to connect that make a big difference.
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When have you been told “it’s too late”? Perhaps you’ve said those words to yourself or they were spoken to you by someone else. Either way, we’ll help you overcome that lie and move toward whatever God has for you in every season of your life.
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Generous Orchid by Suzanne Eller
Holley shares three small rhythms from the Psalms that can help when automatic thoughts, especially from our inner critic, get loud. You can even replay this segment and use it as a prompt for journaling, personal reflection, or prayer.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Some thoughts just pop into our mind and they often come from our inner critic. We have a conversation about where those thoughts actually come from as well as how intentional thinking can help us be advocates for ourselves and each other.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Jennifer shares an excerpt from her book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Many of us have gone through spiritual hurt of some kind and, even if we’ve healed, it can sometimes show up again. We talk about what helps when that happens and how we can come alongside each other in those moments too.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
You can bring all of your emotions to God–the happy and hard. Doing so isn’t doubt; it’s proof that you trust him. He wants to know how you’re really doing today.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
In this chaotic world, we need a Shepherd who will take care of us. We take a deeper look at Psalm 23 and how these ancient words still speak to our hearts now.
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Find free devotional plans from Holley on the YouVersion Bible app.
Purpose doesn’t always announce itself with fireworks. Sometimes, it shows up in a whispered reminder to be faithful where your feet are.
What’s your purpose? We discuss three myths about purpose, the two kinds of purpose, and how to find yours wherever you are right now.
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, online course by Holley Gerth
In this episode, Laura L. Smith joins us to share how God transforms our "ordinary" lives into masterpieces of His grace. Through the stories of brave women in the Bible, we’re reminded that God sees us, equips us, and invites us to be the unique "God colors" the world needs right now.
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Brave Woman, Mighty God: 30 Things You Can Do by Laura L. Smith
Do you ever feel like you’re carrying an invisible checklist of everything you should be doing, who you must become, and how you have to measure up? Holley shares encouragement for every woman who feels worn out by expectations.
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What are you okay with never figuring out? (Besides math–ha!) We talk about the things in life that are still a bit of a mystery, including God, the people we love, and situations that will never quite make sense to us.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Jennifer shares about how being a grownup is a lot less about having all the right answers, and a lot more about learning how to keep going with grace.
What did you think being a grown-up would be like? We share our answers. Spoiler alert: Some made us laugh out loud. Others helped us reflect. And a few inspired us to think about the years still ahead of us too.
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Generous Orchid by Suzanne Eller
Jesus showed us how to see people wholly. We are invited to do the same.
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What do you think differently now? After seven years of the podcast, we look back on what we’ve learned and how we’ve changed–and why the ability to adapt and grow matters for all of us.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Beauty isn’t in the eye of the beholder; it’s in the eyes of the Creator. Holley helps us reframe how we see ourselves and reminds us that all of who we are, even the way we look, can have a purpose.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Summer often comes with expectations to look a certain way, especially for women. We talk about how to love our bodies as they are and see all of who we are as beautiful, especially our scars.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Somewhere along the way, many of us traded wonder for responsibility, laughter for productivity, and joy for survival mode. Jennifer encourages us that our soul was never designed to live in constant striving.
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Jennifer’s FB page
Today we're revising a lighthearted summer episode about how we can play more and stress less. We talk about what play looks like for us, how it helps us as humans, and how it might even be a spiritual discipline.
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Mini-adventures are small ways to bring more fun and connection to your life. Holley started them three years ago and we circle back to hear how it’s going, what has been most helpful, and how you can start having more mini-adventures too.
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Do you ever struggle to stay in the moment? Holley reminds us that it’s okay to slow down, take a deep breath, and simply be where we are–because that’s where God is too.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
How can you make memories that are both intentional and stress-free? We talk about some of our favorite memories, how to protect time with our people, and how we’re getting ready for summer.
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Generous Orchid by Suzanne Eller
Growth doesn’t mean you stop having strong feelings. It means you learn how to sit with them, learn from them, and choose what to do next. You don’t have to suppress your emotions to be “strong.” And you don’t have to let them take over to be “honest.”
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Jennifer’s FB page
We all have big feelings and responses at times. How do we know if they’re healthy? This can be especially tricky if someone else is saying things like, “you’re too sensitive.” We talk through how to learn from our reactions while also not letting them control us.
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The Powerful Purpose of Introverts by Holley Gerth
Assuming responsibility can be such a healthy response, but carrying burdens that aren’t yours to carry is exhausting. So what can we do about that?
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Do you ever blame yourself for what isn’t really your responsibility? We have a tender conversation about this, which includes a beautiful Mama Bear moment from Suzie that will help heal your heart.
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In the moments when you mess up, do you respond with accusation or curiosity and compassion? Holley shares how to embrace grace in the moments you need it most, and know that God is with you as you do.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
We all have responses, habits, or behaviors that we repeat–even if we don’t want to. We approach this with gentleness, grace, a little humor, and a focus on getting the support we need to stop cycles that don’t serve us well.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Renewing your mind is not a one-time act; it’s a daily practice. And morning is the most powerful place to start. Before the world tells you who you need to be, take a moment to remember that you are a beloved child of God.
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Jennifer’s Facebook page
Are you a morning person? We all said no–then we had this conversation with Jennifer Dukes Lee about her new book, How to Love Your Morning. She’ll change your perspective on how your day begins and give you practical strategies along with spiritual truth.
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How to Love Your Morning by Jennifer Dukes Lee
Are you spiritually exhausted? Jesus offers deep, abiding soul rest.
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If you’re tired, it’s not failure or weakness–it’s proof that you’ve given much and loved well. We talk about why it’s human to experience times of weariness and what helps, including practical tips and truth that will help you rest in the ways you need most.
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Generous Orchid by Suzanne Eller
If you’re in a season where God seems far away, Holley has reassuring words for your heart today. Emotional intensity isn’t a requirement for spiritual intimacy, and how loved you are is a gift that can’t ever be taken away.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
When God feels far away, it can cause us to not only doubt him but ourselves. We take a compassionate look at why it can be hard to feel him, ranging from burnout to all of the difficult things happening in our world today. Then we revisit what’s true no matter what–that you are loved and never alone.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
It’s no surprise that we are ALL too hard on ourselves. But what if you started believing that your flaws were attached to your greatest strengths? Jennifer reads an excerpt from her new book, encouraging us to see ourselves how God sees us!
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
If you’ve ever said “I don’t know what’s wrong with me,” join us for a conversation about how to reframe those words. We talk about how we can move from self-criticism to curiosity, compassion, and care in the moments we need it most.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Anger can be one of the most challenging emotions, and yet it can also move us to protect what matters most. We talk about the two kinds of anger and why one is harmful and the other healing. We also work through what makes it hard to admit we’re angry, and what might even help us see it as a gift.
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Moving Past What You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
Let’s use our words to heal not to harm. Will you join Holley in committing to do so? She has a little manifesto to guide the way.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
From critical social media comments to hurtful advice, we talk about words that wound, what creates trust, and how to help each other feel safe by choosing trust over judgment.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Adversity has a way of asking one simple question: Will you trust who you are becoming more than what you’re currently facing or feeling? Being brave doesn’t mean you aren’t afraid. It means you choose to stand anyway. It means you take the next step when the path feels uncertain.
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Jennifer’s website
Counselor, coach, and author Tammy Gustafson joins us for a compassionate conversation about her new book, Broken to Brave: Your Courageous Act of Healing After Intimate Betrayal. Whether you’ve experienced betrayal or someone you love has, this episode is a must-listen.
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Broken to Brave by Tammy Gustafson
What you do matters. It's not about numbers or success but the value of your faithfulness, and what God can do.
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How can you set goals and make resolutions that work for you? We talk about ways to set yourself up for success, how adapting isn’t quitting, and why failure is actually progress.
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Find Your Purpose in This Season by Holley Gerth
While you’re waiting, God’s working, even when it’s hard to see. Holley comes alongside you with gentle but powerful truths to help your heart hold on to hope.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Are you in a season of waiting, wondering when God will come through for you? If so, you’ll be encouraged by our conversation with Lauren Gaskill, author of Until the Miracle Comes.
Until the Miracle Comes by Lauren Gaskill
We’re heading into year seven of More than Small Talk! As we do, we’re taking a few moments to share our hearts with you, our focus for what’s ahead, and to say thank you for listening!
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If you struggle with flexibility? You're not alone. Join Suzie as she shares a helpful prayer.
Sometimes plans change, detours happen, or life stretches us a bit. How do we respond in those times? We share why adapting is different from quitting, what makes curiosity one of our favorite qualities, and how to move into the new year with an open heart.
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, online course by Holley Gerth
Wherever you are, whatever you’ve gone through, God still has a plan and purpose for you. Holley reminds all of us that what looks like a delay or detour can be part of God’s divine direction.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
What if everything we’re living is plan A, even in the hard times? We have a tender but powerful conversation about seeing God’s hand even in seasons or circumstances we don’t understand.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Questions to ask yourself as you start the new year and a little encouragement from Jennifer to kickstart your new year!
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Are you process-focused or outcome-focused? Your answer to that question (and others we talk through) can change how you set goals and what helps you make progress. Find out how to make plans for 2026 in ways that fit YOU!
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Carrying the good news of Christmas into tomorrow, and into the new year is faith changing.
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JoyKeeper: 6 Truths that Change Everything You Thought You Knew About Joy by Suzanne Eller
We each share what Christmas means to us this year, and talk about everything from no-bake cookies to overcoming seasonal depression to practicing the presence of God.
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The Mended Heart by Suzanne Eller
Peace is more than the absence of something, it’s the presence of Someone and all he longs to give us. Holley offers a deeper perspective on peace and a gentle invitation into it this Christmas season.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
How do you find inner calm in the middle of outer chaos? We tackle this timely topic and cover everything from practical tips to phrases to say to yourself when it all gets a bit overwhelming.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
Today we are revising a favorite episode, where we shared the story behind another favorite Christmas carol, and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What helps you find hope even when the holidays are hard?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
In this episode, Jennifer shares some fond memories of Christmases that were far from perfect but by far the ones that meant the most.
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We are revisiting a very special episode, where we share the story behind one of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What has God been doing in your life that you want go tell on the mountain (or the podcast)?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
Freedom by Jennifer Watson
If gratitude doesn’t always come naturally to you, you’re not the only one. Holley explains the brain science behind why that’s true and then walks you through seven questions that can help.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
Sometimes gratitude isn’t as simple as it seems. We talk about what being grateful really means, how it’s okay to feel the whole range of emotions, and which little practices help us most.
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We overcommit like it’s an extreme sport—forgetting that God never asked us to meet every need. What He asks is much simpler: “Come to Me.” But in our striving, we often treat rest like a reward instead of a requirement.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
How do you want people to feel in your presence? In a world where it seems like unkindness has become common, we can still choose to communicate with love, grace, and courage.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
What might I learn if I listened to the words I speak over my own heart.
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If you’re hard on yourself, join us for a conversation about turning your inner critic into your inner advocate. We cover brain science, biblical truth, and practical steps.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Do you ever get stuck worrying about your people or wondering what you could have done to make a situation turn out like you hoped? Holley shares a three-sentence prayer that helps her in those moments.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
How do we love our people while also giving them freedom? Counselor Richard Eller joins us for a conversation about what works well and what makes things worse in our closest relationships.
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Moving Past What You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
Jennifer encourages us to rest and take the time we need for our bodies and soul and reminds us that we dwell with Him from a place of rest and renewal, not striving and producing.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
Musician and Author Nicole C. Mullen joins us for a conversation about her new book, It’s Never Wrong to Do the Right Thing: Courageous Stories to Inspire Godly Decisions. Written from a “dark night” in her own story, she shares how she found hope, redemption, and courage so you can too.
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It’s Never Wrong to Do the Right Thing by Nicole C. Mullen
We are invited to bring all of ourselves, just as we are, to God
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21 Invitations from Jesus, a Bible study by Suzanne Eller
The truest thing about you isn’t that you’re bad; the truest thing about you is that you are beloved. This shift in perspective has changed Holley’s life, and we have a conversation about what it means for all of our hearts as well as our relationships.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
If your life feels ordinary, then you’re in good company. You serve a Savior who came to a manger, worked as a carpenter, walked dusty streets in small towns. Wherever you are right now is sacred ground.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
God isn’t just in the big things; he’s in the small, ordinary ones too. We talk about how this reassures us that all we do matters and frees us from the pressure to perform. We also share practical tips that help us see the sacred in our daily lives.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
Today Jennifer encourages those in a crisis that you are doing better than you think. Even when you get it wrong.
What If You're Doing Better Than You Think by Jennifer
Musician and author Jamie Jamgochian joins us for a conversation about her new book, Sacred Surrender: The Practice of Waiting Well with God. Through a season of health challenges and unanswered prayers, Jamie discovered how letting go of control can lead to finally receiving exactly what we need.
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Sacred Surrenderby Jamie Jamgochian
You deserve a good friend, and you have the potential to be a good friend for another.
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In a world that can isolate us, we all long for connections that are life-giving and lasting. We talk about Sacred Friendships in our lives and how to find, nurture, and sustain them.
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Moving Past What You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
Where can you still find peace in this crazy world? Within you, because that’s where God is, and his love will get you through whatever happens.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
Fun news! Holley has a devotional book, Prayers for Peace of Mind, releasing soon. We talk about why our world is more anxious than ever before, and what can help us truly find the inner peace we need each day.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
Jennifer reads an excerpt from her new book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? to remind us that we can have faith and still wrestle with anxiety.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
We’re trying something new! In this round up episode, we share some of our favorite aha moments from the last few episodes. We also give you a behind-the-scenes look at the podcast.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
God hears every word you say, even when you struggle to hear his voice.
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Come With Me: Discovering the Beauty of Following Where He Leads by Suzanne Eller
All of us have times when we don’t feel God. We each share what that looks like for us, and how we can still know we’re deeply loved by him. We also talk about sacred pathways, and how the ways we connect with God are as unique as we are.
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Blessed Are the Misfits by Brant Hansen
Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas
Prayer Starters by Suzanne Eller
You can bring all of your emotions to God–the happy and hard. Doing so isn’t doubt; it’s proof that you trust him. He wants to know how you’re really doing today.
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Prayers for Peace of Mind by Holley Gerth
You can be broken AND beautiful, anxious AND brave, grieving AND grateful. Life isn’t either/or, instead it’s both/and. Jennifer is our guide in this conversation based on her new book, What If You’re Doing Better than You Think? (releasing soon)!
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Jennifer shares an excerpt from her new book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? Life never looks like what we hoped it would, but life can still be good.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
You have permission to grieve the life you didn’t get, while also feeling grateful for the life you have. Jennifer is our guide in this conversation based on her new book, What If You’re Doing Better than You Think? (releasing soon)!
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
You are invited to bring all of you to God
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21 Invitations From Jesus by Suzanne Eller
Tera Elness, author of Sitting with Jesus, joins us to share how a rhythm of daily spiritual connection can lead us into what our hearts long for most. She keeps it real, not religious, and gives down-to-earth encouragement along with practical tips.
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Sitting with Jesus by Tera Elness
Tera's Online Christian Journey (Facebook page)
Sometimes we’re so focused on making progress that we can forget to enjoy the little victories. Holley reminds us to pause and celebrate each step along the way.
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The “Do What You Can” Plan by Holley Gerth
“When life is normal, then I’ll….” Have you ever said something like this to yourself? We laugh about how normal isn’t coming, and then get serious about how we can move forward with our goals and dreams anyway.
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What If You’re Doing Better than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Jennifer shares an excerpt from her new book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
In this chaotic world, we need a Shepherd who will take care of us. We take a deeper look at Psalm 23 and how these ancient words still speak to our hearts now.
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Find free devotional plans from Holley on the YouVersion Bible app.
Truths to hold onto as your heart heals
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Moving Past What You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
FB Bible study with Suzie - Together Community and Bible Study w/ Suzie Eller
How do you help someone you love through trauma? Counselor and author Eliza Huie joins us to share more about what trauma is, what we need most when we experience it, and how God enters into it with us.
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Trauma Aware: A Christian’s Guide to Providing Help and Care by Eliza Huie
Nothing you do or don’t do will ever change God’s love for you. Holley’s words will remind you that you’re loved anyway and always.
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What’s True About You by Holley
Lynn Cowell and Michelle Nietert join us for a conversation about their new book, Strong and Secure. If you’ve ever wondered if God really loves you, their words will give you the reassurance and truth you need.
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Strong and Secure by Lynn Cowell and Michelle Nietert
Today we're revisiting one of our favorite episodes!
What if your story doesn’t feel redemptive? Quina Aragon, spoken word poet and author of Love Has a Story, can relate. She shares her journey of loss and healing, how the love of God met her in unexpected places, and why he wants to do the same for you.
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Love Has a Story - Quina Aragon
Jennifer shares an excerpt from her new book, What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think? Life never looks like what we hoped it would, but life can still be good.
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What If You’re Doing Better Than You Think?by Jennifer Renee Watson
Exciting news: Jennifer has a new book releasing soon! What If You’re Doing Better than You Think? will help release your heart from self-doubt and the pressure to perform so you can truly live in freedom.
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What If You’re Doing Better than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Jesus stands, even when it feels like the world is falling apart
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Who gets to have the final word in our lives? Our inner critic tells us one thing, the internet tells us another, but only God can give us the truth our hearts really need. Believing him isn’t about intellectual certainty; it’s about deep intimacy.
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Moving Past What You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
It’s easy to compare ourselves to each other, but all of us have gifts, strengths, and a role to fulfill. None of us need to have it all together, we just need to remember we’re better together!
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, online course by Holley Gerth
Why can it be so hard to find the friendships we long for with other women? Author Natalie Runion joins us for a conversation about the lies that keep us apart and the truth that can bring us together.
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I Don’t Even Like Women: And Other Lies that Get in the Way of Sacred Sisterhood
Jennifer shares about her favorite Gutsy Girl in scriptures and encourages us to keep reaching out to Jesus in hope even when life hurts!
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Freedom, by Jennifer
Today we're revisiting one of our favorite episodes!
Do you feel like you're losing heart? We look at the story of a woman in Scripture who reached out to touch Jesus and how He still says, "Take heart, Daughter" to each of us in ways we need today.
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Heal After You're Hurt, an online course by Holley
We want joy. We seek joy. We wonder if it’s for us. And it is, it really is.
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JoyKeeper: 6 Surprising Things You Never Knew About Joy by Suzanne Eller
A lighthearted summer episode about how we can play more and stress less. We talk about what play looks like for us, how it helps us as humans, and how it might even be a spiritual discipline.
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More than Small Talk Facebook Group
What you’re struggling with is not, and never will be, your identity. Join Holley for a reminder of the truth about who you are and how much you’re loved.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Who am I now? If you’ve ever asked this question because of a hard time or transition in your life, then join us for a conversation about identity and what’s
unchangeable.
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What if You’re Doing Better than You Think? by Jennifer Renee Watson
Purpose doesn’t always announce itself with fireworks. Sometimes, it shows up in a whispered reminder to be faithful where your feet are.
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Jennifer’s FB Page
What’s your purpose? We discuss three myths about purpose, the two kinds of purpose, and how to find yours wherever you are right now.
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, online course by Holley Gerth
Show Notes - We may not have the right words, or know what to do, but we can still be a soft place to land.
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What if grace is so much more than we ever imagined? We talk about what this familiar word really means, why it can be hard to receive, and how to fully embrace God’s love for us.
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Moving Past what You Cannot Change by Suzanne Eller
Are you tired and craving a moment of peace? Join Holley to take a deep breath and receive the invitation of Jesus to rest and remember how much you’re loved.
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, new course by Holley Gerth
What can hummingbirds teach us about the heart of God and what it means to truly rest? Master Naturalist Eryn Lynum, author The Nature of Rest, will help you see creation and your place in it from a new, freeing perspective.
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The Nature of Rest by Eryn Lynum
Whether it’s the end of a relationship, the death of someone we love, betrayal, or a painful disappointment, heartache doesn’t just hurt—it drains. Trusting again seems impossible. Getting out of bed is a win. Jennifer shares one truth we can cling to: healing from heartache is one of the bravest things you can do.
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Freedom by Jennifer
How can you reclaim your life after grief, loss, or trauma? Author, counselor, and domestic abuse survivor Kimberly Haar shares her story. Her new book, Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts, is part powerful testimony and part hope-giving therapy.
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Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts by Kimberly Haar
What’s the surprisingly simple shift that will empower you to quit playing small, name the fear, and move forward anyway? Mary Marantz shares hard-won wisdom from her new book, Underestimated,that will give you new courage.
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Underestimated by Mary Marantz
If scrolling on social media leads to feeling like you’re not doing enough, join Holley for an aha moment that will shift your perspective from comparing to taking a deep breath of grace.
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Find Your Purpose in this Season, new course by Holley Gerth
What does social media do to our souls? That’s the question Allie Marie Smith is passionate about answering in a conversation inspired by her new book, Social Media Reset.
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Social Media Reset by Allie Marie Smith
We often live under the weight of expectations—our own, others’, or what we assume God requires. These expectations can quietly steal our joy, bind us in fear of failure, and leave us feeling like we’re never enough. But what if we were never meant to carry them? Jennifer shares some encouragement when we find it hard to let go.
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Jennifer’s website
How do we let others have free will, let ourselves focus on what’s really ours to do, and let God be in control of it all? We talk through this tricky topic so that we can free up more of our energy and emotion for what matters most.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
There are miracles right in front of us. Will we see them?
Join Suzie on social media @Suzanne.Eller for Instagram and Threads and @SuzanneEller for FB.
Author, speaker, and podcaster Lorie Hartshorn joins us for a conversation about her book, Found, and how knowing who we truly are in Christ can transform our stories.
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Found by Lorie Hartshorn
Holley shares how the bravest thing you can do, is to be who you already are. Because we need you.
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365 Truths for Every Woman's Heart by Holley
What’s one difference between you and your 21-year-old self? We answer this question and talk about what it means to become more of who we are for a lifetime (and, surprisingly, even an eternity).
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The Woman I Am Becoming by Suzanne Eller
Author Jennifer Dukes Lee joins us for a conversation about her beloved book, Growing Slow, and how we can all overcome the hurt that comes from too much hurry.
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Growing Slow by Jennifer Dukes Lee
Suzie discusses her journey of self-belief, highlighting moments where she felt God urging her to trust him in the becoming process. She shares 3 things that help you in the journey.
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Who has a messy mind? We’re all raising our hands! We have a conversation about how our messy minds are actually masterpieces, and even our mental health struggles are connected to our strengths.
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You’re Worth the Effort, Darling by Jennifer Renee Watson
Holley reminds us that we don’t have to get it right the first time–or even the hundredth. When you don’t succeed in the beginning, be gentle with yourself and keep trying because you’re loved no matter what.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley Gerth
What if you try something and it doesn’t turn out the way you hoped? We talk about our messy beginnings and why they’re a sign of success and growth–not failure.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Is someone in your life causing you to doubt yourself or speaking hurtful things to you? Jennifer shares some warning signs we all need, along with truth that will guard your heart.
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Darling, You’re Worth the Effort (Guided Journal) by Jennifer Renee Watson
What’s the difference between messy (which is normal) and unsafe (which needs addressing)? We talk through this tender topic with care and intentionality. The good news–God’s heart for us is not just safety but deep security.
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The Mended Heart by Suzanne Eller
Author and podcaster Cynthia Yanof joins us for a conversation about how even when life is messy, God is still good. Our time with her is full of laughter, truth, and encouragement!
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Life is Messy, God Is Good by Cynthia Yanof
Holley reminds you that you are loved just as much on your worst days as you are on your best, and that means you can let your soul rest.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley
Hello, Friend in the 4th Chair! Thanks so much for listening and making the extra effort to come over here too. We appreciate you!
This week we’re talking about The 6th Love Language. Nope, that’s not a typo. Most of us are familiar with the five love languages but we’re proposing everyone also has a 6th. Want to figure out yours? We’ll tell you how and, as always, answer a confession question as well as share helpful tips, insights and resources.
Sometimes balance is a unicorn, it often feels out of reach when you’re in a season of burnout. Jennifer encourages us to create margin, instead of trying to find it and resting in Jesus for all we need.
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Jennifer’s Website
Do you ever struggle with burnout? We talk about what can lead us to that place and, even more importantly, what can get us back out of it again.
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The Powerful Purpose of Introverts by Holley Gerth
When we give all of ourselves, we show up as we are and that is faith changing.
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Come With Me: Discovering the Beauty of Following Where He Leadsby Suzanne Eller
Asheritah CiuCiu, author of Delighting in Jesus, joins us for a conversation about how to find joy, different devotional personality types, five spiritual rhythms, and more!
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Delighting in Jesus by Asheritah CiuCiu
Devotional Personality Quiz
What does it look like to trust when our circumstances feel uncertain? Holley shares a phrase and perspective shift that helped her keep moving forward.
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365 Truths for Every Woman's Heart by Holley (download a free excerpt at HolleyGerth.com/365)
Is it hard or easy to trust yourself? We answer that question (spoiler alert: we have different answers) and talk about how to trust ourselves in a healthy way.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley Gerth
Jennifer shares encouragement on how setbacks aren't the end, but the very thing God uses to move us to the place we need to be.
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www.jenniferreneewatsom.com
How can we turn the setbacks in our lives into set ups for growth, healing, and resilience in our lives? We talk about all of this, while also extending grace for the emotions that come with it too.
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The Mended Heart by Suzanne Eller
When God does big things with a small yes.
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The Spirit-Led Heart: Living a Life of Live and Faith Beyond Borders by Suzanne Eller
Maybe you have a word of the year for 2025, but what about a truth for the year? We share ours and talk about what our hearts need to remember most as we look to the future.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart- Holley Gerth
When it comes to dreams, small is the new big! Holley encourages us to take a second look at our dreams as we head into a new year.
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Holley's Website
If you have a resolution or goal you want to pursue this year, join us for a conversation about what will help that happen. We share practical hacks, truths to remember, and more.
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Jennifer shares some thoughts about how to move forward into a new year, with new hope.
Suzie walks us through five questions that can help us know what to let go of, what to hold onto, and how we can pursue God’s best for us in 2025.
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Jesus shows up in the ordinary, showing us the extraordinary miracle of faith.
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Come With Me - Discovering the Beauty of Following Jesus by Suzanne Eller
God uses ordinary people in extraordinary ways. We have a conversation about how Christmas reminds us of that truth and how we can apply it in our lives.
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21 Invitations From Jesus by Suzie
Jennifer shares how pressure can steal our peace this holiday season, and what to do about it.
Today we are revisiting one of our favorite conversations from last year!
Peace. It's a gift we all want this time of year but it can be hard to find. We talk about three different kinds of peace and what brings them to our lives.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Momentsby Holley Gerth
Jennifer shares about what we are becoming in the process of waiting, reaching out, and seeking God is worth the effort it takes to keep going. It’s actually how warriors are made!
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Jennifer’s book: Freedom
Can our grief and other hard emotions be gifts we offer to God too? We ponder this sacred question together in a conversation full of tears, relief, and freedom for a high-pressure season.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart - Holley Gerth
What if your story doesn’t feel redemptive? Quina Aragon, spoken word poet and author of Love Has a Story, can relate. She shares her journey of loss and healing, how the love of God met her in unexpected places, and why he wants to do the same for you.
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Love Has a Story - Quina Aragon
Do you ever feel lonely? Holley shares about how we all have this feeling sometimes, and some practical next steps.
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365 Truths For Every Woman's Heartby Holley
How do we create the connections we long for in our lives? Becky Harling, author of Cultivating Deeper Connections, joins us for a conversation about the challenges and joys of sharing life with each other.
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Cultivating Deeper Connections - Becky Harling
Jennifer shares some encouragement to remind us that even when we feel alone, we can experience the nearness and love of God.
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Jennifer’s FB page
Feeling lonely doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with you; it’s simply part of being human. Kristen Strong joins us for a conversation about her new book, Praying through Loneliness, and how we can all feel more connected.
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Praying through Loneliness - Kristen Strong
There are many things that want to identify you, but your true identity is found in Jesus’ love for you.
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If you need a reminder of what’s true about you, join us for a conversation that celebrates your “joyful identity” and quiets the lies of insecurity.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley Gerth
Even in the moments when we don’t know what to pray, God understands all our hearts long to say and he’s listening with compassion.
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365 Truths for Every Woman’s Heart by Holley Gerth
Rachel Wojo draws from her personal journey of loss and the stories of biblical characters to show us how desperate prayers can be powerful and healing.
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Desperate Prayers by Rachel Wojo
Jennifer shares three truths that can anchor us when we are going through difficult times.
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Freedom by Jennifer
Dr. Merry C Lin shares how you can experience new freedom when you stop living from your “shadow self” and embrace your God-created “essential self.”
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Rebecoming by Dr. Merry C Lin
Breaking down the walls between ourselves and others may feel risky, but it helps us live just a little more free.
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When asked what she is passionate about, Suzie shares the change that can happen when we are strong enough for each other – what that looks like, and the impact of lifting women up.
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“Take Heart, Daughter.” If you’re losing heart because of hurt or a hard circumstance in your life, Holley shares how these three words from Jesus are a reminder that you’re deeply loved, seen, and there is hope.
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Heal After You’re Hurt course from Holley
Holley shares what she’s learning about what it means to feel safe, why it matters, and how it aligns with the heart of God for us. Our conversation includes biblical truth, a bit of brain science, and steps you can take toward feeling safer today.
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Leading isn’t a rigid calling but a trust walk with the one who called you.
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Come With Me (Revised Version) by Suzanne Eller
Sophie Hudson is the author of the new book A Fine Sight to See and host of the popular Big Boo cast. Drawing from the story of Moses, our conversation will help you see yourself as a leader wherever you are and whatever God is calling you to do.
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A Fine Sight to See
Jennifer shares that we can put on strength and speak to our deepest fears, “You are no match for who God has created me to be.”
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Jennifer’s FB page
Ligia Andrade, founder of Anew Ministries, joins for a conversation about what boldness truly means. It’s not about personality or being loud but about what Jesus wants to do in and through each of us as his beloved daughters.
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Anew Ministries
Bri Stensrud is an author, human dignity advocate, and the Director of Women of Welcome. She joins us for a conversation about a topic many of us are hesitant to discuss, immigration. We go deep to discover the heart of Jesus and the real women behind the news headlines.
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Women of Welcome
Suzie shares some ways you can be a good friend when someone is in a battle.
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21 Invitations from Jesus by Suzie
Jennifer shares something new she’s working on, a resource and community called Emotional Support Humans. Whether you’re in crisis or love someone who is, our conversation will help you feel more encouraged and equipped for whatever you’re facing.
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Emotional Support Humans
All of us have run from Jesus at one time or another. The good news? We serve a God who runs too. We have a conversation about how he comes for us, even when we least expect it or feel we don’t deserve it.
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Holley shares some reminders to help your soul take a deep breath today.
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YouVersion Plans by Holley
You can come BOLDLY to God with your every need, hurt, and desire. If that sometimes feels hard, join us for a heart-freeing, shame-defeating conversation.
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21 Invitations from Jesus by Suzanne Eller
Imagine yourself as whole and healed
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21 Invitations from Jesus by Suzanne Eller
Do you think of Jesus being relentlessly tender toward you? We talk about why that’s true and how it can heal our hearts.
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YouVersion Plans by Holley
If you love someone who is struggling, your place is a support role, and that’s hard to figure out. It’s okay to not have all the answers because none of us do. Jennifer shares how we can trust God to lead them through a painful season and offer support as they heal.
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Let Them Wrestle, Jennifer’s FB page
Have you ever received unwelcome advice? We have–and we’ve given it too! We talk about how to handle advice and ways we can create safe space for others, especially during challenging times in their lives.
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Heal After You’re Hurt, new online course by Holley
Join Holley as she shares a manifesto for using our words to heal instead of harm.
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Heal After You're Hurt, new online course by Holley
Storyteller, city dweller, author, and missionary Shauna Pilgreen joins us for a conversation about her new book, Translating Jesus. We talk about how to speak two languages, Christ and culture, and ways to share the gospel by loving well.
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Translating Jesus by Shauna Pilgreen
When we look back with an eye for celebration, we can look ahead with confidence.
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21 Invitations from Jesus by Suzanne Eller.
Showing up as we are is courageous, and having safe people in our lives who help us do so can be powerful. We talk about times when someone has done that for us, and how we can do the same for others.
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Come with Meby Suzie Eller
Jennifer shares about one strong woman in the Bible who reached out to Jesus in her weakest moment. Freedom and healing is an active role, it’s reaching out to Jesus and telling your whole truth as a beloved daughter.
What kind of freedom do you long for in your life? We share our answers, what gets in the way, and how we can all move toward freedom together.
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Freedom, by Jennifer
Some seasons are for growth, some seasons are for healing. If you're in the latter, be kind to yourself and embrace the work God is doing in you- it has great value.
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Heal After You're Hurt, new online course by Holley
"Other people have it worse." If you've ever said this to yourself or heard it from someone else, then let's replace the guilt and shame these words cause with heart-freeing truth.
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The Mended Heart and The Unburdened Heart by Suzanne Eller
The greatest mistake we can make is to turn away from Jesus when we need him most.
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21 Invitations from Jesus by Suzanne Eller
How do you recover when "the right thing" goes wrong? We have a conversation about rebuilding trust with ourselves, others, and God.
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Heal After You're Hurt, new online course by Holley
Use code Heal25 for 25% off
Have you ever had one of those days where nothing seems to go right? It's easy to beat ourselves up with negative self-talk and that is why it's so important to learn how to talk to ourselves like we would a friend.
Do you feel like you’ve lost your voice? We talk about how that can happen, what we can do to find our voice again, and what the God who loves us wants to speak to us too.
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The Mended Heart and The Unburdened Heart by Suzie Eller
You're in a season of a lot, so be a little gentler with yourself today. You're not late or behind, healing takes time.
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Heal After You're Hurt, new online course by Holley
Feeling stuck in past hurts? Lauren Vander Linden, author of I Want to Move On, joins us for a conversation about healing and moving forward.
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I Want to Move On by Lauren Vander Linden
What are you longing for in your life that you haven't received yet? We talk about seasons of waiting and hoping, as well as what we can learn from the biblical story of Hannah.
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Perfectionism is crippling and keeps us from stepping out in faith. Jennifer encourages us to realize that now more than ever, people need to see our vulnerable, messy self to connect with us on a deeper level.
What questions keep you up at night? Author and podcaster Sarah Bragg shares about her new book and gives us permission, new freedom, and helpful truth our restless hearts need.
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Is Everyone Happier than Me? by Sarah Bragg
Holley shares encouragement about why you're here for such a time as this, and reminds you that you're making a difference wherever you are today.
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Who is a history changer in your life? We share about women who have impacted us, revisit well-known stories in Scripture, and talk through how we can be history changers too.
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The Mom I Want to Beby Suzanne Eller
Podcast App & KLRC.com
Author Kristen Hallinan joins us to talk about her book, Legacy Changer: Heal the Hurt, Redeem Your Story, Create Hope for Your Family.
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Legacy Changer by Kristen Hallinan
Jennifer shares about her favorite Gutsy Girl in scriptures and encourages us to keep reaching out to Jesus in hope even when life hurts!
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Freedom, by Jennifer
Do you feel like you're losing heart? We look at the story of a woman in Scripture who reached out to touch Jesus and how He still says, "Take heart, Daughter" to each of us in ways we need today.
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Heal After You're Hurt, a new course by Holley
Holley shares a story about her grandfather and when the best time in your life to say “yes” to God.
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You’re Made for a God-sized Dream by Holley
Author Rachel G. Scott joins us to share the 5 leaps found in Scripture and how God invites all of us to new adventures with Him.
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Taking the 5 Leaps by Rachel G. Scott
Does God really want you? YES! We look at the story of the Samaritan woman and how it can speak to us in ways our hearts need today.
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Jennifer shares about what we are becoming in the process of waiting, reaching out, and seeking God is worth the effort it takes to keep going. It’s actually how warriors are made!
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Jennifer’s book:Freedom
Author and Speaker Lisa Whittle joins us to talk about her book, I Want God, and how only he can truly satisfy our deepest desires.
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I Want God by Lisa Whittle
Have you ever had one of those days where nothing seems to go right? It's easy to beat ourselves up with negative self-talk and that is why it's so important to learn how to talk to ourselves like we would a friend.
Today we're revisiting a past conversation that was a favorite, because we all need the reminder that what we say to ourselves matters. We talk through why it’s easy to be our worst critic and ways to replace the harsh voice inside with one that’s helpful, encouraging, and life-giving.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie Eller
Joy isn't something we have to force or fake; it's something that comes to us, often in the most unexpected moments.
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HolleyGerth.com - Stop by for a free excerpt of Holley's latest devotional, What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments.
Joy can be surprisingly complicated. We have an honest conversation about our struggles with joy, our false beliefs about it, and how we can embrace heart-freeing truth instead.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie Eller
Joy is for you too.
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Two free chapters of Suzie’s books, JoyKeeper and The Spirit Led Heart
What is toxic "joy" and how can it harm us? If you've ever been told to put on a happy face when you're hurting inside, this episode will have healing words for you.
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Jennifer's website
What does count it all joy mean to you? Jennifer encourages us to pursue joy even during the darkest times in our life.
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Jennifer’s website
What's your definition of joy? We share ours (and learn we might be a little off- ha!) Suzie guides us through a conversation about what true, Biblical joy really means.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie Eller
There will never be a moment in your story when you are not fully loved. Holley shares truth to remind your heart of that today.
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HolleyGerth.com- Stop by for a free excerpt of Holley's latest devotional, What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments.
Author Alexandra Hoover joins us to talk about how she learned to see God's love even in the hardest moments of her life, and how we can do the same.
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Without Wavering by Alexandra Hoover
Janet McHenry joins us to talk about how you can go from feeling like a "prayer failure" to connecting with him in ways that fit who he created you to be.
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Praying Personalities by Janet McHenry
Man-made rules don’t change us, but a relationship with our Savior does.
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Come with Me by Suzie Eller
Do you sometimes feel like you have to handle everything on your own? Set down the heaviness of that pressure and remember you're never alone.
It won’t always hurt like this. There is a steadiness that can be found even in our stuck places.
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Ladies Night Out LIVE Episode
When life gets tough, it can seem like we’ll always feel the way we do right now. But there is hope ahead and your healing is worth fighting for today.
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Heal After You’re Hurt - New Course by Holley
Holley has an aha moment: the enemy often lies to us in the areas of our giftings. Let’s keep fighting for the truth in our lives, and do the same for our sisters too.
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Heal After You’re Hurt - New Course by Holley
“Did God really say…?” The enemy went after Eve with this one phrase, and he still does the same with our hearts today. The good news: Yes, God really did say we’re loved, chosen, enough, and more!
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The Spirit-Led Heart by Suzie
If you find yourself overwhelmed by social media, you're not alone. Holley shares a few strategies to help you use social media strategically and intentionally.
Social media can be overwhelming for all of us. How do we use it intentionally rather than impulsively? We talk about how to be the boss of social media rather than feeling controlled by it.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie
Do you feel pressure to look a certain way? We do too. Join us for a conversation about how we can practice gratitude for our bodies, listen to them, and focus on what works for us rather than working hard to achieve impossible beauty standards.
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In a world that often glorifies the hustle mentality, so many of us begin to question our true worth wondering if we aren’t measuring up. Jennifer encourages us to give ourselves more compassion and let go of the comparison that the hustle culture drives us towards.
Hustle means exceeding our personal capacity in a way that hurts us in order to get the approval of other people. We have a conversation about why we’re all tempted to do this and a healthier approach that can replace it in 2024.
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Freedomby Jennifer Watson
The New Year can bring pressure to meet expectations. We talk through how to pursue “being” instead of “doing,” what helps us live loved, and what’s even better than getting a gold star.
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You’re Already Amazing by Holley
When God does big things with a small yes.
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The Spirit-Led Heart: Living a Life of Live and Faith Beyond Borders by Suzanne Eller
What are you saying "yes" to in 2024 and what are you saying "no" to? We share our answers and help you think through what you want more and less of in your life as you start a new year.
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Jennifer shares some thoughts about how to move forward into a new year, with new hope.
We look back over 2023 and look forward to our fifth year of More Than Small Talk. Join us to reflect on your life and intentionally consider what’s next for you too.
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Nothing you do or don’t do will ever change God’s love for you. Holley’s words will remind you that you’re loved anyway and always.
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What’s True About Youby Holley
Do you ever struggle with believing you're loved? We talk about why being someone Jesus loves is your identity, security, and a truth nothing and no one can ever change.
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The Spirit-Led Heart by Suzie Eller
Jenn Schultz, author of She's Not Your Enemy, joins us to talk about trading comparison for compassion, finding security in our identity in Christ, and how to have healthier relationships with each other as women.
She's Not Your Enemy by Jenn Schultz
Jennifer shares how pressure can steal our peace this holiday season, and what to do about it.
Peace. It's a gift we all want this time of year but it can be hard to find. We talk about three different kinds of peace and what brings them to our lives.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
Sometimes we want to know the right answer, but what our souls need even more is to release our expectations and embrace the mystery of the story God is writing in our lives.
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HolleyGerth.com
Even Christians often differ in their beliefs about certain issues. How can we love each other well, even when we don’t share the same perspective? Our producer Kara Culver joins us as we explore this tricky topic.
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More Than Smalltalk Facebook page
Introvert or extrovert? We dive deeper into this topic and how it affects our relationships so we can all love each other better.
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The Powerful Purpose of Introverts by Holley
Loving people who disagree with us is HARD. Holley shares 7 words that have helped her.
How can our differences make us better instead of divide us? We continue our series about loving like Jesus with counselor Richard Eller.
Listen as Jennifer shares a part of her message from KLRC's Ladies Night Out about one of the lies our hearts believe.
This special episode was recorded at Christian Life Cathedral in Fayetteville, as a part of KLRC's Ladies Night Out!
If you need a boost of courage and confidence today, Holley shares what it means to be Fiercehearted.
What’s your natural tendency to conflict–flight, fight, or fawn? Counselor Richard Eller joins us to talk about each one, how to manage our reactions, and ways we can have healthy, intentional responses instead.
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In today's A Little More we are sharing something a little different. Suzie is co-host of More Than Small Talk with Holley and Jennifer, but she also hosts Prayer Starters, a daily 2-3 minute prayer podcast. Today we are sharing one of those episodes titled Untangled.
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Prayer Starters Podcast with Suzanne Eller
Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard join us for a conversation about their new book, Counting the Cost, and how you can go from feeling entangled in someone else’s story to being fully present in your own.
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Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar
What’s a Promised Land in your life, either one you dwell in now or that you’re praying for in the future? We have a conversation about the joys as well as challenges of embracing the places God has for us.
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You’re Already Amazingby Holley
Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
Sometimes when we don’t handle things well we feel a lot of shame. Looking at how far we’ve come can help us move forward with freedom and grace!
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Jennifer’s Website
“I can’t” is a phrase we’ve all spoken at some point. We talk about what makes us say it and how we can get past what’s holding us back from God’s best for us!
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The Spirit-Led Heart by Suzie
Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
What is your story today? Holley shares hope-filled words about how wherever you are now, it is not the end and God is still holding the pen.
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Fiercehearted by Holley
Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
Author and podcaster Mary Marantz joins us to share her story of going from a single wide trailer to law school at Yale only to discover she still didn’t feel like enough. She talks with us about how God transformed not just her story but her heart, and how he wants to do the same for you.
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MaryMarantz.com
Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
4 ways forgiveness sets your thoughts free
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The Unburdened Heart - Finding the Freedom of Forgiveness
What is something that holds you captive? Maybe it’s a lie you believe, an expectation you’re trying to meet, or a situation that is no longer healthy for you. We talk about how to get out of your “Egypt” so you can be truly free.
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Freedomby Jennifer Watson
Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
Who did you used to be? However you would answer that question points to a source of grief in your life. Chuck and Ashley Elliot join us to talk about navigating the big and small losses in our lives so we can find a new path forward.
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I Used to Be _______ by Chuck and Ashley Elliot
Holley reminds us why it's okay to still be in progress and how God's goal for our lives isn't perfection, it's growing a little more with Him each day.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
What do you apologize for about who you are? We answer this question and talk about how to stop saying we're sorry and start saying what we need as strong women who know they're loved.
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Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
Author Alli Worthington joins us for a conversation about how to be an emotionally healthy and confident mom. She’ll help you get rid of guilt, learn how to truly take care of yourself, and make you laugh a lot too.
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Remaining You While Raising Them by Alli Worthington
Who are you, really? We talk about what we're learning about who we are, how we can keep getting to know the people we love, and why our true identity isn't defined by our struggles or circumstances.
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Join us in person for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out!
Holley reminds us that we are not messes or mistakes as women, we are masterpieces made by a creative God.
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Introvert by Design by Holley Gerth
Author Rachel Marie Kang joins us for a conversation about why we're all creative (even if we don't think so) and how we can bring more creative joy into our lives.
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Let There Be Art by Rachel Marie Kang
Do you or someone in your life need a lifeline? We al do from time to time! We talk about why it's hard to ask for help and how we can support each other.
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Join us November 4th for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out! Find out more and get your tickets at KLRC.com!
Jennifer encourages us to make a Soul Destination Map naming what areas you need breakthrough in and list three motivations for moving forward, then challenges us to build the community we need by finding a tribe to do life with!
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Freedom by Jennifer Watson
Bestselling author and speaker Susie Larson joins us for a conversation about experiencing God’s presence even in your toughest moments.
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Closer than Your Next Breath by Susie Larson
Holley shares how failure and success are more closely connected than we may think and why you're in good company when you fail.
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Free Excerpt of What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments at holleygerth.com/anxiety
Sometimes failure is success. That may sound strange, so we explain in this conversation that will change your perspective on the moments when you feel weakest.
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Join us November 3rd for the first ever KLRC Ladies Night Out! Find out more and get your tickets at KLRC.com.
Guest Michelle Donnelly author of Made for More and founder of the PlusONE ministry for single parents, talks with us about how God meets us in our places of overwhelm and unburdens our overloaded hearts.
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We can find peace knowing that the same God who directs our paths, is the same God that directs our waiting. We can trust him even when it’s hard to wait.
Are you in a season of transition? We talk about times of change in our lives, what helps when everything feels uncertain, and what you can trust will always stay the same.
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Prayer Starters by Suzie Eller
Katie Lewis, founder of the popular jewelry and accessory company, Dear Mushka, joins us to talk about juggling business with fay, what she wishes she knew when starting her dream, and what she's still learning.
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Dear Mushka
Holley shares three ways you can live more like a candle and less like a firework, plus an encouraging reminder that you are shining wherever you are today.
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Introvert by Design by Holley Gerth
Do you feel pressure to impress people or like you might be burning out? Then you might need a season of being a candle, not a firework. We talk about what that means and how this strategy has helped us figure out what's sustainable in our lives.
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Introvert by Design by Holley Gerth
Sometimes we feel out of control when we are stepping out in faith and being launched into a new season. But take heart, Warrior, God is ordering each step you take.
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What's the thing God is calling you to do? Whatever it is, author and fellow podcaster Rebecca George wants to help you! In her conversation with us and her new book, Do the Thing, she shares encouragement, practical strategies, and truth to help you take your next step.
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Do the Thing by Rebecca George
We're all tempted to hide our true selves, but when we show up as we are that's when real connection happens. Holley shares why she's falling in love with awkwardness and extends an invitation for all of us to be our authentic selves.
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Introvert by Design by Holley
Have you ever shared your heart, taken a risk, or pursued a dream then wondered what you were thinking? Then you've had a vulnerability hangover. We talk about what the term means, why we get them, and what can help us keep being brave.
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You're Made for a God Sized Dream by Holley
One Surprising Secret to a Good Life
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Come With Me: Discovering the Beauty of Following Where He Leads by Suzanne (Suzie) Eller
How can you have a good life even when bad things happen? Author and speaker Jennifer Rothschild, who has been blind since the age of fifteen, shares what she's discovered through her own journey as well as her new Bible Study on the book of Amos.
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Amos: Invitation to the Good Life by Jennifer Rothschild
Survival mode makes us feel like a slacker, but it isn’t true. Jennifer shares truth you heart needs when you’re in survival mode.
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It’s Upsy Daisy Day! This silly minor holiday is a reminder that we all make mistakes and we can get back up. We share the history behind it, our “upsy daisy” moments, and how we can help each other try again.
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It's okay if you feel weak or like you're failing. Holley reminds you why you're stronger than you think you are.
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Introvert by Design by Holley
Have you faced heartbreak? Author and podcaster Jodi Rosser joins us to share how God used the hardest things in her life to bring her to a place of deep healing.
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Depth: Growing through Heartbreak to Strengthby Jodi Rosser
Does what you’re doing matter? YES! We have a conversation about how even the small things in our lives can be significant.
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Freedom by Jennifer Watson
Do you feel like your To-Do list is bossing you around? You can come to Jesus and he will give you rest.
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Jennifer's website
God wants to use you as you are, where you are, in whatever season you're in. We talk through why that's true and what helps when it's hard to remember.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie
You are intentionally created as an introvert or extrovert and we need you to be who God created you to be!
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Introvert by Design by Holley
God intentionally created you! Holley shares insights and encouragement from her new guided journal, Introvert by Design.
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Introvert by Design by Holley
Catherine Gates, author of The Confidence Cornerstone, joins us to talk about the challenges women face in leadership and what can help us become more confident as we step into all God has called us to do.
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The Confidence Cornerstone by Catherin Gates
Life might not always look how we hoped it would, but life can still be good. This episode reminds us who to turn to for the emotional strength we need.
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Karen Doll joins us to talk about what it means to be psychologically fit, especially at work. She shares what helps with burnout and how to get mentally and emotionally stronger.
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Building Psychological Fitness by Dr. Karen Doll
Day not going the way you planned? Try embracing the wonky! Holley shares unexpected advice from a recent mini-adventure in her life.
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Do you need a strategy to add more fun to your life, help you heal, or grow closer to the people you love? We talk about how mini-adventures can do all that and more!
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Jenny Randle, author of Flash Theology, takes us beyond learning theology to how we can truly live it. She helps us be less intimidated and more engaged in getting to know God and His Word (plus she makes us laugh a lot too).
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Flash Theology by Jenny Randle
Have you ever had one of those days where nothing seems to go right? It's easy to beat ourselves up with negative self-talk and that is why it's so important to learn how to talk to ourselves like we would a friend.
What we say to ourselves matters. We talk through why it's easy too be our own worst critic and ways to replace the harsh voice inside with one that's helpful, encouraging, and life-giving.
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Joy Keeper by Suzie Eller
Holley shares her 93 year-old Grandpa's advice for aging well along with truth to give us hope for our journey toward Home.
How can you age with courage and joy? We talk through our fears about aging, what true beauty means, and how to become a better, stronger human with each year that passes.
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Fiercehearted by Holley
Is accepting your body a struggle? Tori Stanley, therapist and contestant on Survivor 42, shares how we can replace self-criticism with a more realistic and loving relationship with our bodies.
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Tori Stanley, Therapist and Coach
Jennifer encourages us to know our true worth in Christ instead of throwing away our confidence.
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If you've ever struggled with body image, this conversation with Rachael Gilbert, author of Image Restored, will encourage you. She shares her story along with truth and practical steps for changing the way we see ourselves.
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Image Restored by Rachael Gilbert
How do you know if someone in your life is safe? Holley shares a checklist based on 1 Corinthians 13.
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You're Already Amazing by Holley
Are you walking through a hard season or healing from hurt in a relationship? Lysa Terkeurst, new York Times bestselling author of You're Going to Make it, joins us to share her hard-won wisdom on healing.
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You're Going to Make It by Lysa Terkeurst
Do you carry hurt that came from your relationship with your father? Kia Stephens, author of Father Wounds, shares how you can exchange the failings of your earthly father for the unfailing love of your heavenly one.
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Father Wounds by Kia Stephens
Friends celebrating and showing up for one another is the ultimate win. Friends help you find your missing pieces and pray you back home when you’ve lost your way. And, when it's your time to shine, they will be right next to you cheering the loudest.
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Do you want to feel more connected but find community challenging at times? You're not the only one. Becky Keife, editor of the (in)courage book Come Sit with Me, shares real-life stories and strategies for stronger relationships.
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Come Sit with Me by (in)courage
Holley shares three reasons why awkward moments can actually make you MORE likeable.
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The Powerful Purpose of Introverts by Holley
Do you wonder what it really means to love your neighbors or how to make that happen? Shannan Martin, author of Start with Hello, gives us encouragement and practical strategies for everything from hospitality to small talk.
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Start with Hello by Shannan Martin
Has life turned out differently than you planned? Lori Ann Wood, author of Divine Detour, joins us to share her story of facing challenge she never expected and finding God in hard places she never wanted to go.
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Divine Detour by Lori Ann Wood
Sometimes dreaming is hard when we are in a season of waiting. Jennifer encourages us to dream again and trust God in the waiting.
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Is it hard or easy for you to dream this year? We share our answer and talk through the challenges and gifts of dreaming for the future while embracing what’s right here too.
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Fiercehearted by Holley
Do you ever worry your life or dreams are too small? Paus and let Holley remind you of how God sees your ordinary life as extraordinary and meaningful.
Guest Rachel Adams joins us to share about her new book, A Little Goes a Long Way, and why we’re already significant in the eyes of God. If your life feels ordinary, listen to this conversation about how small is actually big.
What do you hope for in your relationships this year? We have a conversation about how sometimes it’s hard to even know what you want or need, and how to both give and receive.
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Prayer Starters: Talking with God about Hard Times by Suzie
Perfectionism is crippling and keeps us from stepping out in faith. Jennifer encourages us to realize that now more than ever, people need to see our vulnerable, messy self to connect with us on a deeper level.
Everyone is creative because we're made in the image of a creative God. We talk through why creativity matters, ways to pursue it, and how it can help us find joy and healing this year.
In celebration of 4 years of More Than Smalltalk, today we're looking back at our very first episode, "The Power of a New Start." In this episode we talk about how to make changes in your life. We also answer a confession question (gasp!) and talk through helpful truths, tips and resources.
Rest is a gift we all need this holiday season. Holley shares how we have permission to rest and that it can be an act of worship.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What kind of silent night do you need in your life or relationships this year?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What helps you find hope even when the holidays are hard?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
In this episode, Jennifer shares some fond memories of Christmases that were far from perfect but by far the ones that meant the most.
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In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. What has God been doing in your life that you want go tell on the mountain (or the podcast)?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
Freedom by Jennifer Watson
Sometimes it feels like God is only in the big things but Holley reminds us this Christmas season that he is often found it what's small and ordinary.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
In this special series, we share the stories behind some of our favorite Christmas carols and how the words can help us draw closer to Jesus. How can we look for him in ordinary, unexpected places–the “Bethlehems” of our lives?
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4 Beloved Christmas Carols and the True Stories behind Them
If Suzie could have any adventure she wanted, what would it be? We ask her this question along with others as part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you’ll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us.
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Have you ever felt like everyday looks the same? It’s so hard to see the miraculous in the mundane moments of our life. Yet, even when we can’t see it God is working on our behalf.
If Jennifer could create her ideal snack basket, what would it contain? We ask her this question along with others as a part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you'll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us.
Holley shares a story from her childhood about a yellow paddle boat, a summer adventure, and the bittersweetness of letting go.
What’s one thing that would really surprise people about Holley? We ask her this question along with others as part of a Million Downloads celebration series where you’ll get to go deeper (and laugh) with each of us!
In honor of one million downloads, we’re sharing this special throwback episode with you!
Thanks to you, we're celebrating a huge milestone for More Than Smalltalk- one million downloads! We look back on how far we've come, share what we've learned, and give a sneak peak of what's coming next.
Setting healthy boundaries may feel hard, but you are worth it.
Resource: The Mom I Want to Be: Rising Above Your Past to Give Your Kids a Great Future.
Guest Sheila Gregoire shares her insights from a survey with over 20k women. We talk about the myths of purity culture, what God intended sex to truly be, and the healing power of being safe spaces for each other.
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BareMarriage.com with Sheila Gregoire
{Trigger Warning} The month of October is Pregnancy and Infant loss awareness. In this episode, Jennifer shares her personal story of loss.
Sometimes even when we guard our hearts, we still get hurt. What then? We’ll talk about how to start healing, ways to repair relationships, and lessons we’ve learned the hard way.
What if something happens to someone I love? If you've ever asked that question, Holley has encouraging truth fo r your anxious heart today.
What is the difference between caring for someone and carrying their load for them? If your heart is feeling heavy, join us as we figure out the answer to that question together.
What does it really mean to guard your heart? We tackle this question and talk about how to be wise and warm, open but not overwhelmed, compassionate yet take care of ourselves too.
We can find peace knowing that the same God who directs our paths, is the same God that directs our waiting. We can trust him even when it’s hard to wait.
Bestselling author Joanna Weaver joins us for a conversation about why trusting God can be tough and how we can embrace the freedom of surrender.
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Embracing Trust by Joanna Weaver
Do you ever struggle with the pressure to be perfect? Holley’s words will help you take a deep breath, remember truth, and live a little freer today.
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What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments by Holley Gerth
Have you or someone you love faced the pain of divorce? If so, you're not alone. Tracie Miles, author of Living Unbroken, shares her journey along with hopeful words and helpful insights.
Show notes: God wants to be with you, not because of what you do but because he loves you.
Have you ever told yourself, “I’ll never….again” only to find yourself repeating an old pattern? Yep, we’ve been there too. We talk about why that happens and what’s helpful.
I’m not sure if anyone likes waiting on things, whether it’s food or open doors. Waiting is just hard. Our hope is found in believing that reaching out to God and seeking Him first will result in rewards for us personally that are worth waiting for.
God didn't create us to be doormats. How do we love others well while not losing ourselves in the process? Dr. Alison Cook shares strategies to help you develop your voice, set wise limits, and still be a loving person.
Because of the cross, there is now therefore no condemnation.
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How can you trust God when life doesn’t go the way you planned? We talk through how it’s okay to struggle and how we can get honest with God.
Sometimes the hardest person to trust is ourselves. Are we even supposed to trust ourselves? How do we do so? We talk through this tricky topic together.
Building solid relationships based on trust feels a little risky when we have been hurt by others. Lean in as we share how learning to trust others can lead to healing and personal growth.
Counselor Richard Eller joins us to share insights and practical advice about how to rebuild trust when you’ve hurt someone you love.
How can we use our words to build trust with each other? Holley shares some thoughts and a commitment of words we can make together.
Do you ever struggle with trust? Yep, us too. We talk through why trust can be hard, what healthy trust looks like, and we can grow in this area of our lives.
What do you tend to pick up that God never asked you to carry? We talk about how to care without carrying, what joy really means, and how we can live lighter even in hard times.
Actively reaching out to Jesus in your brokenness is the precursor to the intentional letting go of things in your past. Tackling the huge task of forgiving yourself and others leads to freedom and real healing that lasts.
What do you like to control? We share three areas we struggle with (people, performance, progress), how uncertainty plays a role, and what helps us let go so we can embrace freedom instead.
Holley shares her personal struggle with anxiety and how when fear makes us want to hide, God’s love pursues our hearts so we can find healing.
What triggers your anxiety? We share how there are two kinds of anxiety triggers, the difference between biblical and biological anxiety, and practical tips as well as spiritual truths that will help you have more peace today.
Letting go and finding the healing you deserve.
Resource: The Unburdened Heart by Suzanne Eller
Have you ever felt pressure to please God or people? Whew, us too. Kaitlin Garrison, author of Sweet Relief, joins us to share how she traded false beliefs for freedom- and how you can too.
Sharing the hard parts of our story isn't fun. But, when we do, we heal a little more and give others permission to do the same. Jennifer shares with us the hard part of her story dealing with seasonal depression.
What keeps us from sharing our stories? How can we be safe spaces for others to share their stories too? We have a messy conversation about the power of words, supporting each other as women, and why speaking up can be healing.
Are you struggling under the crushing weight of expectations? Holley shares why we can lay that burden down, and what we can pick up instead.
What’s the difference between truly pursuing peace and pleasing people? We have a messy conversation about what it really means to love others, why it can be hard to set boundaries, and we hear from listeners like you!
We've recently seen a lot of leaders in news headlines. How do we know when to follow authority and when to push back? How do we do so in a way that's in alignment with the heart of Jesus? We have a messy and healing conversation about it all.
Do you feel like you have nothing to offer? Sometimes we downplay what we bring to the table, believing that it’s not enough. But small is where God shows up and becomes the more we long for.
Were you taught that good girls don’t get angry? We have a conversation about why we get angry, how it can be helpful, and what to watch out for when we do.
What can you do today to keep from worrying about tomorrow? The Proverbs 31 Woman has a strategy that you can use too. Listen in as Holley shares it with you.
Is she intimidating, an ideal to achieve, or ancient history? We go deep into what it really means to be a Proverbs 31 woman and our conversation leads us to places that surprised all three of us.
Author Mary DeMuth joins us for a conversation about why we long for belonging, what women of the Bible can teach us today, and how to better understand the people in our lives.
Authors Lynn Cowell and Amy Carroll give us a new perspective on the familiar story of Esther. Join us to hear how you can step into all God has for you in this season of your life.
Suzie shares the touching story of how God healed her brother from terminal cancer! Pull out your tissues, celebrate with us, and get ready to be inspired by the mysterious work of our loving God.
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Song: In Jesus’ name by Katie Nichole
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What truth can you cling to even when you’re having a bad day or it seems like the whole world is falling apart? Holley shares reassuring words from God’s loving heart to yours.
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What Your Soul Needs for Stressful Times by Holley Gerth
Holley shares her favorite song, which leads to a surprising conversation about being unconditionally loved, how to release others from our expectations, and what it means to show up for our people no matter what.
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True strength is the gutsiness to do whatever God asks you to…even if it scares you. Step aside, fear.
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What miracle is God working in your life that you might not even see? Jennifer shares a song that’s speaking to her and we talk about how to let God do what only he can in our lives.
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Song: Miracle in the Works
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When you feel like you can't do it? Suzie reminds us, don't be afraid to ask the Helper who lives inside of you for what you need.
Who is the Holy Spirit and why do we need him in our lives? Author Becky Thompson shares how the Spirit is our helper, truth speaker, guide and so much more. God isn’t far away or silent, he’s with us and speaking to us every day.
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God So Close by Becky Thompson
When life’s difficulties come, how do we keep from becoming hard and bitter? Holley shares some thoughts on being strong, soft women who grieve deeply and yet also somehow grow stronger.
After suddenly losing her husband, Lisa Appelo had to answer the question, “Can life be good again?” She shares with us how God met her in the hardest moments, gave her hope, and how we can all make it through life’s unexpected heartbreaks.
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Life Can Be Good Again by Lisa Appelo
What makes you sometimes say, “I’m the only one…”? We all struggle with feeling this way sometimes. We talk about the truth our hearts need, that we’re not alone and we’re better together.
Are you playing a lesser role in the story of your life? Jennifer shares a story about two lonely people from different generations. One extended an invitation and cured their loneliness and became better in the process.
You have a place, purpose, and something to give no matter how it may feel sometimes or what your stage in life might be. We talk about taking a seat at God’s table exactly where you belong.
Do you feel out of step in your life? We talk about how you can find a new rhythm in the middle of continuing change and challenging circumstances.
Do you feel out of step in your life? We talk about how you can find a new rhythm in the middle of continuing change and challenging circumstances.
Is it even possible to have a happy heart with all that’s going on in our world right now? Author Tricia Goyer joins us to share how we can stay centered in God’s love even in the middle of chaotic circumstances.
The deepest parts of who we are, the parts we never reveal to others or may not even understand ourselves, are held, precious, and safe! Author Hannah C. Hall reminds us that we are fully known by God.
Do you feel depleted and like you need something more? Are you asking yourself, “Is this all there is?” Author Hannah C. Hall joins us for a conversation about what can truly fill us up in the ways we need most now.
We are beloved, beautiful, strong daughters of God who are part of His purpose and plan. Let’s remind ourselves and each other of that truth today!
How do we relate to our parents when we’re all grown up? How do we connect to our children when they become adults? We talk through this listener inspired topic together.
How do we understand, support, and celebrate blended families? We invite Heather Hetchler to share with us about this listener inspired topic.
You don’t need permission to rest. I know, this is a hard on so let’s remove the guilt from setting healthy boundaries and resting.
Why is it so hard to make boundaries and follow up on them? We tackle this topic from a listener and explore what can help us be both loving AND assertive.
Sometimes we take ourselves a little too seriously, and it can take some of the joy out of our days. If you struggle with this, Holley has an encouraging reminder to share with you today.
Are you wrestling with questions about faith? What if doubt can drive us closer to God not away from Him? The honest, funny, and relatable Melissa Blair shares her unpredictable and insightful spiritual journey with us.
Jennifer shares about one strong woman in the Bible who reached out to Jesus in her weakest moment. Freedom and healing is an active role, it’s reaching out to Jesus and telling your whole truth as a beloved daughter.
How do we help girls grow up to be strong, confident women? Jason Rovenstine, a dad to three daughters and Holley’s new business partner, joins us for an empowering conversation that encouraged all of us.
Your weaknesses and struggles are not reasons for God to give up on you. Instead they're opportunities for you to show God's strength in ways you simply can't on your best days.
Do you wish your life, your body, your home, even your spirituality, could just be better? If so, Heather Creekmore’s heart-freeing message will help lay down the burden of “better” and embrace new grace.
We kick off a new “Her” series to help your heart, mind, and soul in 2022. Join us for the restoration and inspiration we all need right now!
If brokenness has been your identity, it’s time to trade it for knowing deep down you’re beloved and your past doesn’t define you.
Girl Set Free founder Amy Kratzer joins us for a conversation about freedom, overcoming shame, and how to help others redeem their stories too.
Do you ever struggle with comparison or wishing your story were different? Holley has some helpful reminders for your heart this week.
Author and podcaster Heather Thompson Day joins us for a conversation about how to overcome comparison, embrace what God has for us, and trust He’s working even when we can’t see it.
What’s your unword of the year? We share ours, why having an unword is helpful, and how the opposite of your unword can be a way to discover what you really want.
As we start a new year, let Jennifer’s words help you lay down perfectionism, embrace grace, and find new strength not in what you do but being loved.
What are you hoping for this year? We talk about why hope can be tricky, what it really means, and what we can count on when it feels hard to find.
Pause for a few moments to take a deep breath, embrace hope, and put Jesus in the center of your Christmas celebrations.
What is your favorite Christmas memory? We take time to refocus on what matters most this time of year so you can do the same.
What is your hospitality style? We’ll talk about how hospitality is more about your heart than having a perfect home. Whew.
What are you carrying that’s heavy today? Jennifer’s words will help you lay it down so your heart can travel lighter this holiday season.
What's an unrealistic expectation from yourself or someone else? We’ll help you set it down and embrace grace this holiday season.
If you need a reminder of why there is always hope, Holley’s words will speak to your heart this holiday season.
What's one thing you're appreciating that you used to take for granted? We talk about how to enjoy right here, right now no matter what the future may hold.
Counselor and KLRC friend Keri Corn joins us for a conversation about what it means to be emotionally safe, how to tell when we’re not, and what we can do to guard our hearts.
Do you ever feel broken and wonder if God still has a purpose for you? Then Jennifer’s encouraging words today are for you!
What is purpose, really? And how do we find it? The answer might be closer than you think, more ordinary than you might have believed, and a gift to receive rather than something to pursue.
In this stressful season, pause for a few minutes with Holley for some thoughts on the kind of peace our hearts really need right now.
Are you stressed out? We’ve got you! Our conversation covers what causes stress, what helps, and what steps we can take to manage it well--especially at the holidays.
We were created to be connected to others. But how do we make that happen? Especially after we've been hurt? In today's episode, Suzie shares some encouragement for the journey.
What does connection really mean and how can we have more of it in our lives? What keeps us from connecting and when is distance the best option? We tackle these question and more--just in time for the holidays!
Perfectionism is crippling and keeps us from stepping out in faith. Jennifer encourages us to realize that now more than ever, people need to see our vulnerable, messy self to connect with us on a deeper level.
So many things in our world try to steal our true identity. We have a conversation that will help you guard your heart, protect your mind, and hold on to truth.
Holley shares encouraging words about how God sees our everyday lives from her new devotional book, What Your Soul Needs for Stressful Times, 60 Powerful Truths to Protect Your Peace.
Author Allie Marie Smith joins for a conversation about overcoming obstacles like self-doubt and depression and embracing your true worth and deeper purpose.
We all fall short in our roles from time to time, but God sees us separate from that role. He sees us as his daughter.
How have your roles in life shaped your identity? And what happens when they change? We talk about how to not lose our true selves in our God-given roles.
Jennifer encourages us to examine our hearts in this #selfie generation where our priorities can be out of focus. We edit out our crazy. We filter and fake it. We can make a picture look better by using a filter, but our lives are meant for so much more!
Author Bonnie Gray, who also happens to be the daughter of a mail order bride from China, joins us for a conversation about belonging and finally being beloved.
Holley shares freeing truth about the difference between taking heart the way Jesus invites us to and taking something to heart in ways that weigh us down.
We welcome Counselor Mazi Robinson, who helps us understand why it’s so hard to receive love sometimes and how we can open up our hearts even when we’ve been hurt.
We all feel overwhelmed at times. Suzie shares 3 things we can do when we feel that way.
Is self-care essential or selfish? We tackle this question to help you (and us) stay filled up so we can pour out, especially in a season that’s asking a lot of us.
If our struggles are not our identity, we have to go to war with the false narrative in our heads and unravel shame from our stories.
We welcome the funny and creative Jenny B. Jones, author of There You’ll Find Me, which was recently turned into a movie! She gives us the inside scoop on finding the courage to do brave, unexpected things.
Do you ever feel like God just tolerates you? What if you believed he truly enjoys you? Holley shares why you bring delight to the One who made you and loves you.
Why do we sometimes feel guilty about having fun? Does fun even matter? We have a surprisingly serious yet delightful (and somewhat controversial) conversation about this lighthearted topic.
Get a behind the scenes look at More than Small Talk as we answer questions, laugh a lot, and have a real-life conversation in Holley’s living room.
Are you over the hustle harder mentality? Jennifer encourages us to remember that busyness doesn’t equal holiness and it’s okay to rest and pace ourselves.
Get a behind the scenes look at More than Small Talk as we answer questions, laugh a lot, and have a real-life conversation in Holley’s living room.
Are expectations weighing you down? Holley shares how you can let them go and embrace the lightness of grace instead.
Letting go is hard to do, whether it’s sending a kid off to college, releasing a dream, or moving on from a job. We talk about what helps and how to embrace what’s new.
Are you flexible? What does that even mean? We talk through how flexibility is more about an attitude than specific actions and how we can all have more of it in our lives.
Jennifer shares a letter to a loved one and someone struggling with addiction. Sometimes we watch someone we love struggle and need to make peace with their story while letting go of our desire to fix them.
Messed up? We’ve all been there, and the good news is God is there with us too. Nothing you can say or do will ever make Him give up on you.
God is not done with history, and He’s not done with your story either. Holley shares hope for this chapter of your life.
You may know Todd and Brooke Tilghman from his epic win on the popular TV show the Voice, but there’s far more to their story and you’ll hear it in this honest, encouraging conversation.
Counselor Richard Eller joins us to talk about how our stories get written, ways we can support each other, and what it means to finally take control of your own pen.
Your inner mean girl has to go! Jennifer encourages ust to replace her voice with one you can live with, and begin to thrive in the abundant life God has for you.
Got an inner critic? So do we--especially Holley. We share how Suzie had a much-needed intervention with her and what we can all do to embrace more grace.
If you need a boost of courage and confidence today, Holley shares what it means to be Fiercehearted.
Ever had friendship challenges? Yeah, us too. We talk about how to make up with a friend and what to do when that’s just not possible.
Sometimes we speak the truth and forget about the love part. Sure, we might be right but we don’t have to be mean. Jennifer encourages us to ask God to show us what loving His way looks like.
Words are powerful. We have a conversation about what speaking the truth in love really means and how to avoid the extremes of truth without love or love without truth.
Hate conflict? We have a conversation with author Ashley Abercrombie about learning to disagree, resolving the conflicts you’ve been avoiding, and creating real change.
How can we fight for each other instead of with each other? Holley invites us to pause and remember we’re better together.
Are you experiencing compassion fatigue, numbness, or empathy overload? We get it, and we talk about why this is happening and what we can do to take care of ourselves while we keep caring about others too.
What if we admitted our life isn't always picture perfect, and instead offered the comfort of "me too?" Maybe we could all take a deep breath of relief.
What myths have you believed about emotions? We share ours, along with insights and next steps will help you embrace all of your emotions.
We have all experienced hard circumstances in life and our relationships. Jennifer encourages us to speak life over our circumstances and trust God with the outcome.
Mandy Hale, author of Don’t Believe the Swipe, joins us for a funny, eye-opening, and helpful conversation about what it’s like to be single in today’s world.
Is fear holding you back from an idea or dream? Holley will help you overcome your hesitation and take the leap.
Mary Potter Kenyon, author of Called to Be Creative, joins us for a conversation about the healing power of creativity and why we need it in our lives more than ever.
We may feel we are all out of choices, but there is one powerful choice we can all make.
The past year has left many of us with a weird kind of burnout. We put words to those feelings, talk through what helps, and share next steps.
Life rarely looks the way we dreamt it would. Often we find ourselves disappointed and at the point of giving up. Jennifer shares encouragement for our season of waiting for our dreams to unfold.
Is dreaming easy or hard for you right now? It’s both for us, and we talk about moving forward in faith while also giving ourselves lots of grace.
All women are mothers because all women bring life to the world in some way. If Mother’s Day is hard for you, Holley’s words will encourage your heart.
Who or what are you launching in your life right now? We talk about the art of letting go, facing fear, and supporting our people.
What does “normal” even mean? And do we want it? We talk about navigating this season of transition in ways that help us thrive not stress out.
Sometimes the people we need the most are the people we try to push away when our hearts are hurting. Jennifer shares inspirations from the story of Ruth and Naomi.
Friendship as a grown-up can be hard, it can also be a lifeline for our hearts. We talk about what it means to truly be a friend.
God has a purpose and plan for your life that’s different from any others. You can cast off comparison and run with perseverance the race marked out for you.
Author Jennifer Dukes Lee joins us to share how we can heal our hurried hearts and embrace a more life-giving, sustainable way of living.
Sometimes reading the Bible can feel like a “to-do.” Suzie shares how we can rediscover God’s love in the pages of His love letter to us.
Who has ever found it hard to read or study the Bible? (We’re raising our hands.) We talk about connecting with God in grace-based, intimacy-building ways.
We have all encountered a crisis of faith and had questions, this is part of the faith journey and not a sign of failure. Jennifer shares powerful stories of Jesus meeting people in the middle of their mess and revealing who he is.
If you’ve had questions, doubts, or confusion about faith then we’re with you. We have an honest conversation about what we’re struggling with and what helps.
What if our awkward moments actually make us more endearing? Holley shares good news from a heart, mind, and relationship perspective.
We are answering your questions! Join us for a fun conversation, laughter, and learning new things. It’s like a slumber party with friends!
Our scars are not our shame. They are symbolic of our healing, and that we are survivors. I'm scarred. You're scarred. We're beautiful together.
Is your life a fairy tale? Ours aren’t either! From small disappointments to big losses, Sharon Jaynes joins us to bring healing and hope to our stories.
Your struggle isn't your identity. Jennifer shares important reminders about how brave you are even in your darkest moments. What you think is a small step forward is a bigger deal than you think!
If you or someone you love struggles with mental illness, you need this perspective-changing, heart-freeing conversation with Carla Arges.
We’re stronger than we know, braver than we feel, and loved more than we can even imagine.
We have a challenging but hope-filled conversation with Tiffany Bluhm about sexual harassment and assault, the abuse of power, and how we can change the future for women.
Suzie shares a story that will remind you none of us have gone so far that Jesus can’t find us, forgive us, and bring us home to His love.
Have you ever thought, “There’s no coming back from this”? We have! We talk about how to move forward when it feels like we’ve failed.
Is someone in your life causing you to doubt yourself or speaking hurtful things to you? Jennifer shares some warning signs we all need along with truth that will guard your heart.
Have you ever been told or believed it’s all in your head? Then join us for some confidence-building words that will give you new freedom and courage.