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we forgive you
We Forgive You is a podcast that tackles our national obsession with celebrities and the controversies that surround them. Each week, friends and hosts Jackson and Rozz present a celebrity they need to forgive… for whatever reason. It’s a show that deals with “self care through celebrity,” exploring what our likes and dislikes say about us—and our society—through the lens of celebrity culture.
It's Britney's, Book! Honey, nothing gets us back on mic like our girl BRIT BRIT. Join Jackson and Rozz as they hop on the mic and spill their guts.
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November 12, 2021. Remember it ladies, because it’s pop culture HERSTORY. Jackson and Rozz come out of retirement to give the Forgivers what they didn’t ask for, an emergency episode on their thoughts on the herstoric day that was November 12 2021. Britney, Taylor and YAssica Simpson. Check in with the girls as they discuss how the pop girls are reclaiming their narrative, their names and their legacies!
I bet you didn't have this on your 2020 Bingo Card, ok sorry that had to be said, but you are probably surprised Jackson and Rozz gathered their thoughts and hopped on a zoom to recap their favorite 10 pop culture events of the year.
This week, Jackson and Rozz invite friend of the pod and Bravo Expert, Danielle on to discuss the future of Bravo. If you’re not immediately thinking of housewives, let’s clarify that Bravo is a television network that is segregated on all but one show, and recently fired 4 stars of one of it’s most popular shows for a history racist behavior. You might be shocked at the length of this week’s episode, but this is their Marvel Universe.
The friends give quarantine updates, touch base on the personal work they are doing to support the movements happening, and talk to what some may say is ad nauseam. It’s a three and a half star podcast after all :)
Jackson and Rozz take this week to chat about the importance of local politics as well as understanding local government in the midst of the movements and protests. Because they aren't experts and have rarely been fact checked on the podcast, they bring on Friend/Forgiver/one time host of the podcast, Ian Hartz, urban planner, to answer their questions about local government.
Confused? Don't be! The issues that the movements are addressing are heavily tied to funding/defunding/reallocation which local politics play a large role in determining.
Jackson and Rozz struggle through various technical difficulties to give the forgivers what they want, LANA DEL REY updates. This week the gals dive into a Forgiver voicemail and DM that both involve Elizabeth Grant aka Lana Del Rey. Buckle up babies, Jackson and Rozz have left their 20s and are really grappling with their 30s!
Lady Gaga & Ariana now share more than a song in common, they have both been shaded by Lana Del Rey. Jackson and Rozz dive into LDR's instagram post about feminism, women in music, and critiques of her glamorizing violence.
It's also Jackson's last episode as a twenty-something, and he's days away from another round of bleaching his hair! Rozz and Jackson discuss rating this podcast (please do so if you haven't)reviewing their favorite etsy shoppes, and whether they should change the name of the podcast to girls who gab. Let us know via voicemail (+1 929.244.9297), email (weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com) ror DM @we_forgive_you
Prompted by JoJo’s new album, Jackson and Rozz discuss where the f JoJo has been, her lawsuit and her connection to Aaliyah. They explore why can’t you stream Aaliyah’s music or find the original Leave Mix by JoJo. What does it mean when we deny women legacies? Tune in and hear the exact moment Jackson’s gummy hits!
This also may be the week that broke Jackson and Rozz. Jackson is going blonde and wine no longer brings Rozz joy. Join the duo as they discuss their isolation struggles and mourn summer 2020.
Let them know your thoughts and how you're holding up by emailing them at weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com or leaving them a vm at +1 929.244.9297
It’s week four of naming QuaranQueens, and Jackson & Rozz realized they’ve never discuss what makes one a Quaranqueen. So far it’s been Britney, Lady Gaga, and Bethenny Frankel. Who can share the honor with these QUEENS?! The duo weigh the pros and cons of potential queens based off of forgiver voicemails and instagram nominations. As they mull this over they wonder why no one knew that Britney accidentally burned down her home gym?! What sorcery covered this up? Join the duo as they question what the deal is with the quarantine situation between Ana De Armas, Ben Affleck, and his children with Jennifer Garner AND Lol over Gigi Hadid’s parents talking to the literal foreign press about her pregnancy. Will they ever return to airing their grievances over celebrities…only time will tell!
It’s that time of the month…when Jackson and Rozz discuss this month’s wE! True Hollywood Bookclub selection! This month the duo discusses Gabrielle Union’s, We’re Going To Need More Wine. Jackson and Rozz chat about her stories over wine, sharing their own stories based off of Gabrielle’s experiences like “who hates you the most” and “nobody said being a grown as woman is easy.” If you read the book send us your thoughts via instagram @we_forgive_you , or email weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com or leave a vm at +1 929.244.9297. We want to hear from you (especially if you’re listening in Bulgaria or the Philippines).
Jackson and Rozz are back, but still not together! After a power outage in Youngstown left them with half of an episode last week, the two are back and longer than ever! The duo responds to voicemails about their 73 questions and Forgiver updates. They play a game inspired by Rozz’s Insomnia and even cast a new iteration of everyone’s fave holiday movie- The Family Stone. In the last half of the episode, Jackson and Rozz discuss this week’s QuaranQueen, Lady Gaga, and her quarantine glasses. Little Monsters, this week’s ending is for you! Don’t forget to rate, review, subscribe and share with a friend! Feel free to leave us a voicemail at +1 929.244.9297
If you are a nonessential worker like Jackson and Rozz, or even if you are not, you must be missing the normalcy of seeing your friends, family and loved ones regularly. Hang out with Jackson and Rozz as they learn more about each other by asking 73 Questions, bonding over Comrade Britney's self care tips, and listening to thoughtful voicemails about the bookclub, AND much, much MORE! It's a long one! Pour yourself a drink and join the friends as they try to bridge the gap of distance in between them. If you have thoughts, they would love to hear them--- send a voicemail to +1.929.244.9297 or send an email to weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com. Please rate, review, subscribe AND share with a friend. Stay safe and stay inside!
It's the end of the month, which means it's time for the (w)E! True Hollywood Book Club, and this month Jackson and Rozz are discussing Demi Moore's book INSIDE OUT. In addition to breaking down the book, Jackson and Rozz adjust to their new normal and discuss new hobbies and self care updates! Let them know how you're keeping sane or just anything you want to share during this pandemic at +1 929.244.9297
It's been 2 weeks, and Jackson and Rozz are now in Self Isolation! Jackson and Rozz are talking to each other about how they are handling their self care during NYC's social distancing suggestion during this pandemic! They play games, give self care tips, and talk about what everyone is talking about...Vanessa Hudgens OH and COVID-19 aka Corona virus. email your thoughts to weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com or leave a voice mail at +1.929.244.9297
Hollywood's Resident Himbo is ready for the We Forgive You treatment. Following what they learned about John Mayer from Jessica Simpson's memoir, Jackson and Rozz ready to dig into his past with several famous women. Dear John, tune in and see what they have to say. Plus, a new game!
It's our first (w)E! True Hollywood Story Book Club Episode! Jackson and Rozz discuss the incredible vulnerability of Miss Jessica Simpson displayed in her memoir, OPEN BOOK. If you have read it, join the conversation by leaving us a message with your thoughts +1 929.244.9297.
Happy Galentines/Valentines/Palentines, sending all of our forgivers nothing but love. Inspired by Anne Hathaway's heartbreak, Jackson and Rozz share stories of their own and discuss their takeaways. Listen in for #forgiver calls. We Forgive You now has a voicemail you can call at +1 929.244.9297.
Taylor, again? YES! Jackson and Rozz talk take a deep dive into Taylor Swift's Netflix documentary MISS AMERICANA and share their thoughts and feelings about the revelations made in the doc. Jackson preps for his trip to Germany while Rozz proposes Forgivers join her E True Hollywood Book Club. Check it out, share with a friend, and let us know you're feelings on the documentary - email us at weforgiveyoupodcast@gmail.com or we_forgive_you on IG.
Hey Forgivers—Jackson and Rozz here with a quick episode and update! We're giving remote recording a test (so recording over Skype). Let us know what you think. We'll be back later tonight with a full episode!
Join Jackson + Rozz as they set their intentions for season 3 of WFY and introduce a new game: DISNEY DO-OVER! It's been 6 years since the height of HATHAHATE. Hathawoke Jackson expresses his fandom and love for Anne Hathaway, while Rozz grapples with why we hated her? Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe and give them a follow at we_forgive_you in instagram.
Happy New Year Forgivers! This week, Jackson and Rozz dive into how their resolutions are going and what they've been watching—which includes the recent Golden Globes. Tune in to hear Jackson's frustrations with Quentin's speech. That, plus a surprise little bit about the near-forgotten film NO STRINGS ATTACHED.
Hey there Forgivers! Rozz and Jackson are back just in time to say goodbye to the decade! Tune in for some self-care breakthroughs, New Year's Resolutions, and the albums and people that defined their decade!
This week, Jackson and Rozz are digging into the mailbag and talking about all of the things that have come up recently—ScarJo, Equinox, Britney, Bieber, and more. Plus a special guest! Tune in!
This week, Rozz & Jack are digging into the softest, cutest, but secretly problematic rapper Aubrey Drake Graham. That, plus updates on Jackson's Mykonos trips and the official We Forgive You review of Taylor's Lover!
Continuing in our summer tradition of meandering conversations with friends, this week Jackson and Rozz talk to their "nicest" friend Jake. Jake might be best known as Maren Morris's biggest fan, but he's also a #swiftie, and he joins the duo to give predictions for the album LOVER...but that's not all! Jake plays SHOUT OUT HER...for an entire episode :)
Jackson and Rozz are graced yet again by boyfriend Patrick as they delve into what they've been up to the last few movies, including all of the summer movies they've seen. They go deep on "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" and try to figure out what it all means. That, plus book recommendations!
Jackson and Rozz are back after a brief summer break, and they've got a surprise guest...."my boyfriend Patrick!" Tune in for Patrick's frustrations with the new Queer Eye and Jackson's half-considered thoughts on the Equinox Scandal. Plus, a new game!
Time for a self care checkin with Rozz and Jackson before they head out on some summer adventures! That, plus summer beach read recommendations! Tune in and bliss out.
This week, Rozz and Jackson are digging into the fascinating new trend of fake pop stars. What does it mean when we start stanning Ally and Ashley O more than Gaga and Miley? Tune in to hear that, plus their thoughts on VOX LUX!
This week, Jackson and Rozz have an exciting surprise...a guest! Join them (and special guest John Dennehy) in a discussion about the one and only Madame X! They try to parse what it is we want from Madge, and how to love her regardless of her Instagram. All that, plus a return of a classic game!
Does Loving Kim Petras mean you support Dr Luke? Jackson and Rozz attempt to find out as they discuss the shadow that hangs over Kim's career. We play a game of Max Martin or Dr Luke!
~spoiler we planned to release this episode next week...after our Kim Petras episode...which will explain why Kim is heavily referenced~
This new era of Taylor has Jackson and Rozz...confused? Taylor's finally gotten political, which they j'adore, but for the first time they aren't understanding the musical branding? Join them as they play gay icon or not and discuss this LOVER era!
The Jonas Brothers are back baby and so are Jackson + Rozz! Like the Brothers, these two are reflecting on this new chapter and reflect on the reflections/admissions Kevin, Joe + Nick gave during the Amazon Doc. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe BABY!
Summer is finally here and it's making Rozz and Jackson feel a little loopy! They dig in on what's going on with Rozz professionally and how she's taking a stand in the workplace, and discuss the joy of making new friends as you get older. That, plus a new game!
Jackson and Rozz are back from Spring Break! They fill each other in on how they spent last week and Jackson gives Rozz some career advice. Jackson typically loves a good celebrity profile, but could Vulture's in conversation with Anjelica Huston change that? The pair to discuss the trend of Hollywood Elders/Pillars/Icons giving incredibly revealing and unfiltered interviews.
This week, Jackson & Rozz dig into two great new streaming shows SHRILL and SPECIAL and try to understand how they've been impacted by them and how they'll impact pop culture. That, plus a new very dumb game!
This week, Jackson and Rozz investigate a certain disgraced Congressmen that happened to reemerge at Coachella with his hands down another man's pants—the one and only Aaron Schock! You might know him as the US Rep with the Downton Abbey-themed office, or the man with a 0 score from the HRC, but do you want to get to know him as a ripped white gay who makes out at music festivals? Jackson and Rozz dig in, and a few f-bombs might get dropped!
Jackson and Rozz deal with the news that their idol has checked herself into a mental health facility, and dig into the difference in responses to her struggle and Justin Bieber's. That, plus some stan conspiracy thinking and Lenten promise updates!
This week Jackson and Rozz discuss the transactional transparency of Priyanka Chopra Jonas' spon-con filled life. Why does it bother Rozz that Priyanka is monetizing off of her personal life when nearly every other celeb she loves does the same thing...could it be she can't take the digital displays of affection or is Nick Jonas the one that got away?
This week, Jackson is finally ready to go up against his nemesis, the #menswear icon Jonah Hill. He and Rozz dig into feelings his directorial debut MID90s brought up for them and try to understand once and for all why Jackson just can't stand Jonah. That, plus a new game!
OPERATION VARSITY BLUES is upon us, and Jackson cannot get enough of this scandal! Olivia Jade and her sneaky parents have Jackson & Rozz reflecting on what they thought about their own college experiences and how they can fight educational inequalities. That, plus the return of GIVE HER A CHANCE!
Rozz has always been an admitted fan of the Kardashians, but this Jordyn Woods scandal has her reconsidering! That, plus a deep look at why vulnerability is a strength, and why Jackson might have been wrong about the Instagays!
This week, Rozz helps Jackson tackle the INSTAGAYS and specifically the question of whether they are harming the community. Tune in for a spirited discussion about body image issues and a formal definition of the term INSTAGAY. That, plus Rozz is taking collagen!
Hey there forgivers...ready to do some self care? Jackson and Rozz are back with a brand new season, ready to dissect culture and themselves in equal measure. They kick things off with a conversation all about the Oscars and what Kevin Hart taught them about apologies. That, plus all about how to cure insomnia!
It's time for the season finale! Jackson & Rozz reflect on their process of forgiveness and ask if Taylor deserves it for her recent political Instagram post. That, plus Jackson gets called out for his potty mouth!
This week, Jackson turns the tables a bit to try to see if Mariah Carey can forgive him for counting her down and out (and buying into the silly concept of the comeback. Plus, self care tips from him and Rozz. If you've ever wanted to hear an off-key rendition of the second verse of "We Belong Together," you've gotta tune in!
It was the ultimate question in 2005: Team Aniston or Team Jolie. Jackson and Rozz explore the pop culture moment that had a growns shopping at Kitson for baseball tees. What did it mean to them then, how did it inform how they viewed relationships, and more importantly are they still Team Aniston? As with any good WFY episode, there's singing, there's some gossip and there's some self care, but most importantly there's a buddy movie pitched!
Jackson and Rozz embark on a new journey—confronting a fave's weakest or worst piece of work to find a way towards forgiveness. For their first journey, they tackle Britney's least-loved (but most personal yet!) album BRITNEY JEAN and uncover its truth as a contemporary Christian album. That, plus talking about how depressing it was to be 23!
Jackson is out at a work retreat, so when the boy is away the girl will what---slay... JK she will attempt to stay on topic! Friend of the pod and friend in real life Ian guest hosts and discusses his Forever Crush LEO DICAPRIO! does he have an issue with him- no? does he find him problematic- no? but possible? is he just in it for the hair---you betcha! Join us as we try to figure out why Leo "rubs" Rozz the wrong way and whether or not we would accept a date on Leo's yacht.
On this week's episode, Rozz explores what she has learned from celebrity best friends about how to be a better friend and how to be a better partner. Jackson helps her unpack the BFF lessons between Taylor/Karlie, Selena/Demi and most importantly my girl Drew/Cameron D...you won't want to miss the ~tapes~, the knowledge, and what being in your 20s means for friendships.
Jackson & Rozz have a few things to get off their chest! Mainly, it is too damn hot, music is too damn sleepy, and the Kardashians have got to cool it with these clapbacks. That, plus Jackson finally reveals his age! Tune in for some talk therapy!
Listen up Forgivers, it's time to question how we atone, starting with Tilda Swinton. Thanks to a listener question from artist extraordinaire Caron Lee, Jackson and Rozz dig in further on Tilda Swinton's casting in DOCTOR STRANGE, and go deep on what it means to be an ally. Don't worry, it's fun too! Plus, Amber Tamblyn!
Join Jackson, Rozz and Katy Perry's biggest and nicest fan, Payton! Super fan Payton takes a critical look at his fave pop star and explores her cultural appropriation, if she's a gay icon and so much more. We play crowd fave - Give Her a Chance -- Katy Perry song edition. Press play, ok!!
It's time to talk about Tinkerbell's mom and OG Celebutante Paris Hilton. Rozz is ready to wrestle with the question of whether Paris is truly an innocuous pop-culture remnant or if she's a symbol of something much more insidious. Tune in for that journey, plus a reading of Paris' 47 famous lovers!
Jackson & Rozz have some questions for Ms. Johansson following the announcement that she'll be playing a man in the upcoming RUB & TUG, namely...what is WRONG with you?? They dive in to Scarlett's history of feminism to see if she has what it takes, or if she's just another fake. Tune in for that plus some great listener feedback!
Rozz is ready to deal with her issues around American Idol Runner Up, SMASH leading lady Katherine McPhee. Why is it that she just can't catch the McPheever? Tune in to find out if we'll ever let her be our STAR.
This week Jackson presents Justin Bieber... Justin himself believes he's been redeemed by Christ and now is the most famous member of his church...but what is the deal with the Australian urban outfitters brand of hipster christianity? Can Jackson find forgiveness for Justin's trespasses and f***boi behavior? Will Rozz remain a Belieber? Or is it too late now for him to say sorry?
Jackson & Rozz are joined this week by their first guest as Samantha stops by to discuss her deal with Jennifer Lawrence. Find out if the Cool Girl is truly cool, or looking a fool! Plus, a mention of Mischa Barton!
Jackson and Rozz are back! A little later than expected but we are here! After a shocking and upsetting NYT interview, we explore the people behind our beloved Bluths and if we can forgive them. RATE REVIEW and SUBSCRIBE <3
It's time for our first listener suggested celeb! Adrienne from Jackson Hole wants to know is it okay to still enjoy Andy & the Housewives. Rozz and Jackson dive in and try to sort through their love of Bravo TV to get to the heart of Adrienne's question. If you're into an aside about Ramona, this is the episode for you!
Episode 13 means we have to talk about White Girl #1—Taylor Swift. Jackson & Rozz dig into listener feedback on the biggest issues people are facing with Taylor and try to work towards forgiveness. Will they get there, or will Taylor be just another picture to burn? Listen & find out!
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Jackson is back from cashing his checks and is ready to come to Yeezus! Rozz and Jackson unpack Kanye some more and find themselves discussing another cross-over artist - SHANIA! And by crossover, we mean crossed over to the dark side. Can we forgive her latest comments- or will we be left saying, that don't impress me much.
Enjoy, discuss & rate/review/ subscribe!
We are back-- well almost back. Jackson is out this week, but Rozz is in with our first guest host--- Sarah G! The two sip Mezcal and have a come to Yeezus moment. Why are they blinded by the music? And is Kanye really just being Kanye? After a few days of Kanye's fast and furious emergence back into the twitter-verse-- we can no longer ignore 'Ye. Join us as we -- sip mezcal, giggle and try to process Kanye.
We will be back next week with a full episode, but in the meantime enjoy this bonus March Madness bracket episode, but instead of sports, we talk teen shows! Although it might seem off brand, it was completely necessary to save our friendship. Tune in to listen to us work through our brackets and the best teen show...there can only be one!
After two failed attempts, it's finally here—Jackson's forever crush! Find out if he is still sweet on Hollywood's Baddest Boy after all these years, and take a quick mental trip to the horniest red carpet moment of the last 20 years!
It’s a We Forgive You First- An in defense of episode! This holy weekend, Rozz shows up for Gwyneth Paltrow, goop, and $800 vibrators! Jackson works through his distrust of Gwyneth, and yes he curses! Tune in a for a game of Mad Libs and helpful hints to find the perfect balance between cigarettes and tofu. Happy Easter/Passover!
He's been a movie star, a sitcom legend, an SNL standby, and even a talk show host. But this week, he's just being a PROBLEM. Rozz and Jackson question whether they can still dig Jack Donaghy when they're doubting Alec. That, plus more about White Male Anger—what fun! Find out if they can reach forgiveness this week!
Jackson & Rozz experience their first group therapy session as they dive into everything Miley. Is she just being Miley, or is she being messy? Decide along with us!
A little taster/teaser to tide you over until Friday! It's Rozz's birthday and we rate famous pisces and Rozz forgives her birthday twin!
It's a WFY first-a caller! Rapid fire forgiveness returns just in time for Oscar weekend. Rozz can no longer ignore her problematic forever crush: James Franco. Jackson and Rozz discuss the two James Francos, his love of younger women, and his short story about Lindsay Lohan. Tune in for all of this AND Oscar predictions.
Another week, another brit! Jackson airs his grievances with JK Rowling, the woman richer than QE2. Can he forgive her for not making Dumbledore an explicitly gay character? Jackson and Rozz talk Harry Potter, Plastic Representation AND Johnny Depp! As a fun game, sip your bev every time Jackson says canon---we hope you like HP!
In this episode, Jackson and Rozz discuss #metoo, women being forced to answer for predatory men and of course--- KATE WINSLET. Can we forgive Kate for her olympic-like ability to skate around a question and a controversy? Find out! Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe!
Jackson and Rozz give out Valentine's to celebrities that deserve some extra TLC <3 <3 <3
please excuse this week's audio issues This week Jackson and Rozz discuss Grammys, Pop Stars, representation and what their Oscar Speeches would be...oh and how could we forget- we break down Jackson's dislike of Sam Smith and what is says about him? Thanks for listening to our therapy session!
If you love pop culture and you're of a certain age, you'll want to tune in to this rambly episode full of deep self reflection. Jackson and Rozz discuss purity, posturing and might even mention Kevin Jonas! Rumor has it there's Gigi Hadid Fan Fiction!
Our episode art is by Brooklyn artist Caron Lee <3 <3