The Springs in the Desert Podcast: Catholic Accompaniment Through Infertility: Recent Episodes
Springs in the Desert
As women and men traveling the hard path of infertility and loss, we know the importance of community. Our Team members - Allie, Ann, Cassandra, Stacey and Kimberly - speak from the heart about their own struggles and lessons learned on this journey. Allie's husband James brings light to the rarely discussed male perspective of infertility with the regular feature "A Man's Take." Join us for discussion, prayer, special features and the opportunity to walk together in hope toward God's promise for a fruitful life! www.springsinthedesert.org, info@springsinthedesert.org
It is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month, and so today we're having a tough but important conversation with Chaney from Heaven's Gain Ministries.
We'll be talking about:
- The disenfranchised grief of infant loss during pregnancy
- Collection options at home and at the hospital for burial
- Memorializing babies who have passed away
- How parishes can help couples experiencing a miscarriage
- Encouragement for couples who were not able to bury their baby
If you have suffered the traumatic loss of your baby during pregnancy: "Your grief is valid, your story is valid, and we want to be here for you."
God loves you, and so do we.
Links:
Heaven's Gain Ministries
Heaven's Gain Hotline: 513-888-4200
Ministries, Counseling, and Spiritual Direction Links
Happy feast of St. Thérèse of Lisieux! This episode is a "rose" to take with you today as we reflect on this great saint and her "little way" of growing closer to Jesus.
St. Thérèse received particular graces from God in her life that helped her reach an incredible level of holiness. Even though she lived within the walls of a Carmelite convent, she is the patron saint of missionaries and is even a Doctor of the Church. Her sanctity, sweetness, simplicity, virginity, and vocation to the religious life may make it hard to relate to St. Thérèse at first – especially when we're feeling the weight of the cross of infertility and its effect on our marriages. But there is so much we can learn from this saint even though our lives may look very different from hers.
Will you let St. Thérèse send you a "rose" today?
Links:
"The Hidden Gift of Hidden Suffering" blog post
I Believe in Love (personal retreat book)
Aleteia article on married saints
Just for TodayCompiled and translated from the writings of Saint Thérèse with selections from the Imitation of Christ
Have you ever felt called to be a homemaker, but feel like you can't because of your family size, financial situation, or concern about judgment from others? This episode is for you!
Two old and dear friends of the ministry, Andrea and Allie, join Cassandra on the podcast today to talk about:
- What homemaking looks like for a family of two
- How to discern the decision to stay home
- How Andrea and Allie have found healing of infertility grief through homemaking, and
- How to bring a little more homemaking into the home—even if you are not currently in a place to leave your job!
Links:
Visitation of Hearts Spiritual Direction (with Andrea)
Embracing Homemaking in Infertility (by Allie)
SpiritualMaternity.org
Participating (Sharing) in Mary’s Spiritual Motherhood and Spiritual Children
Have you ever wished that there was a Catholic small group for infertility accompaniment in your area? Well, this podcast episode is for you!
Our Small Groups Coordinator, Cadie Krivoniak, joins Cassandra on the pod to talk about her experience participating in Springs' very first pilot small group.
Cadie talks about how you can start a small group in your area, and what to do if you would love to participate in a small group but don't feel up to facilitating yourself.
It is our honor to walk with our small groups facilitators and participants!
Links:
Springs in the Desert Small Groups
Happy Birthday Springs! Our founders Ann and Kimberly join Cassandra on the podcast today to tell the story of how Springs came to be and how much it has grown.
God has blessed this ministry so abundantly! By His grace, here are the resources we are able to offer today:
- Weekly podcast episodes (on two separate podcasts!)
- Blog posts
- In-person retreats
- In-person and virtual small groups
- Weekly Well prayer email
- Monthly encouraging email newsletter
- Resources for couples, pastoral ministers, and healthcare providers
- Women at the Well virtual prayer meetings
- ... and more!
If you would like to support our work with a Founding Day gift, please visit our website!
Kenn Cramer, Director of Family and Respect Life for the Diocese of Manchester, NH, joins Cassandra on the pod this week.
Kenn shares about the experience of planning a clergy workshop focused on the sensitive topics of infertility and loss.
He also gives an impactful overview of the importance of ministering to men, and what priests – and wives – should know about how husbands experience infertility grief.
If you are a diocesan family life director, Springs in the Desert is here for you! Contact us about scheduling a workshop for priests, deacons, and/or seminarians today.
Links:
Eileen Tully | Sursum Corda
Ministries, Counseling, & Spiritual Direction
"What do we do if we don't have children?"
If this is a question you've wondered about in a season of infertility, this episode is for you! Springs contributors Ellie and Trey Weaver join Cassandra for another great episode on our theme, "Your Marriage Has a Mission."
The Weavers used to feel like they weren't sure about the mission of their marriage – but today they have come to embrace the abundant opportunities that God has put in their path!
This episode is filled with encouragement on embracing God's invitation to give life in a season of infertility. Infertility is not the mission of your marriage, and it does not define you! Your gifts are necessary for the Church. How will you use them to give life today?
Links:
Broken Arrow OK retreat registration
Richmond VA retreat registration
This week Ann welcomes very special guest Keith, her bestfriend and husband of 14 years. Ann and Keith talk about their experience of infertility early in marriage, how things have changed since then, and the ways God is calling them to be fruitful in surprising and fulfilling ways.
Keith is the “behind-the-scenes” support for Ann in ministry, but this isn’t his first appearance on the podcast! Dive into the archives and go way back to 2020 to hear how Keith, Ann, and the Springs Team shared about navigating infertility in all of our relationships.
Links:
- Infertility is Martyrdom blog post
- Infertility is Martyrdom Blogcast episode
- Holding Gabriel blog post
- Holding Gabriel Blogcast episode
- Communicating with our Spouses, Family, and Friends through Infertility
Today on the podcast, Cassandra is joined by Katie (our blog manager!) and Matthew Summers. We talk about how important it is for couples to discern their mission, and for husbands and wives to support each other in their careers and goals. Listen in for Katie's beautiful witness of praying for Matthew in a special way during the workday.
Links:
Blog
Blogcast
Even on the path of infertility and loss, your marriage has a mission! Join Cassandra for a quick prayer break where we offer to God our petitions. It is our honor to walk with you!
Links:
- Subscribe to the Weekly Well
- Submit a Prayer Request
Some episodes are just so good we have to air them twice! Tune in to this week's episode, a replay with one of our favorite guests!
During National NFP Awareness Week, we thought it a great idea to welcome back a close friend of this ministry, Chris O'Neill, the Director of Marriage and Family Life for the Archdiocese of New Orleans. Chris helps articulate why those carrying the cross of infertility may have mixed feelings about NFP, charting, etc., then helps us refocus on how to build deep, strong relationships with our spouse.
Links
- What's the Issue with IVF? podcast episode
During NFP Awareness Week, Jillian is joined by her groom, Jesse for a Desert Reflection! They discuss ways to connect with your spouse — mind, body, and soul — when charting feels like a chore. They share ideas about how to incorporate prayer, physical movement, and interesting discussions into your daily routines to ensure moments of intimacy are the foundation of your marriage. Whether you are feeling reinvigorated to refocus on charting or needing to set the chart or conversations around NFP to the side, we hope this conversation gives you a few ideas about how to reconnect with your spouse in this season!
If you are an NFP Instructor, on a Marriage Prep Team, or serving engaged and married couples at the diocesan level, this one is for you! In preparation for National NFP Awareness Week, Jillian shares a resource that the Springs in the Desert Team created to help equip you to serve the 1 in 5 couples who may also be struggling to conceive or may experience infertility or loss during their NFP journey. Thank you for your yes in serving the Body of Christ, and it is an honor to walk alongside you!
P.S. If you know someone who would benefit from this episode, please forward this to them and connect them to our team!
Links:
- Springs Website
Eileen Tully joins Jillian to discuss how to navigate reapproaching intimacy and NFP after experiencing pregnancy loss. They share tips about how to take every thought captive and encouragement to recognize and reframe our understanding of God after such a devastating event. From temptations and repentance, to healing and grieving, Eileen and Jillian have an honest conversation about the many challenges faced after loss. Biggest takeaway? God is not disappointed in you; God loves you, and so do we!
Links:
- Changing Your Mindset with Eileen Tully Podcast
- Eileen Tully Website
- Feminine Genius Ministries
- Litany for Couples Using NFP
- Litany of Trust
If you are needing a refresh to your day, a minute to recalibrate, or a guided prayer for your morning devotions, listen to this episode! Whether you are in your prayer corner, on the drive to work, or on an evening walk, join Jillian in praying a summertime litany!
Links:
- Submit a prayer request!
The desire for healing is often part of conversations on the path of infertility. Your podcast host, Jillian, is joined by Lisa Martinez from Little With Great Love for a discussion about the topic of healing. What does healing mean? Where does healing begin? What does it look like to be healed? What if I feel God is withholding healing from me? Listen to this episode to explore the answers to these questions and more!
Links:
- Little With Great Love Website
- Little With Great Love Facebook
- Little With Great Love Instagram
- Little With Great Love Pinterest
- Little With Great Love YouTube
- Asking God For Healing Blog Post
- Eucharistic Healing Blog Post
- The Healing Beauty of Creation Blog Post
Adoption is a beautiful pathway for fruitfulness, whether or not a couple struggles with infertility. When a couple decides to explore adoption and go through the process, they invite a child into their hearts and their families, which is a beautiful fruit of their love. But adoption is not guaranteed to go according to a couple’s desired plan for their family. Today, therapist and Springs professional Contributor Clare Kane joins Ann to talk about what happens when the process stalls or stops, and how couples can manage the pain of an interrupted (or failed) adoption.
Links:
- Springs of Love
- Blog Post: Gratitude and Adoption
- Blog Post: Nothing Simple About It
- Blog Post: Adoption Redeemed
- Blog Post: Who Does This Child Belong To?
Our very special guest today is Megan Hjelmstad, author, speaker, and mentor. She joins Ann to impart wisdom regarding suffering, learned from her own story of suffering she shares with us listeners. She will leave you enlightened and encouraged, reminding us that God redeems everything, as you walk your own road of suffering.
Links:
- Offer It Up
- St. Paul Center Instagram: @stpaulcenter
- Emmaus Road Publishing Instgram: @emmausroadpublishing
- Megan Hjelmstad's Instagram: @positively__imperfect
- Megan's Website
This week we welcome Fr. Elias Dorham back to the podcast with a unique take on marriage and the vows. Ann and Fr. Elias discuss their shared Eastern Catholic tradition with a look into the Byzantine Catholic marriage ceremony, and the Rite of Crowning. Fr. Elias shares the symbolism of the crowns, their connection to the vows, and how their meaning can be lived out practically through the love of all spouses for each other. The tradition of “Crowning” may be new to you, but it offers a beautiful lens through which to view your marriage and live out the call to serve your spouse and the world!
Links:
- Listen to Fr. Elias' previous appearance on the Podcast!
- Learn more about Fr. Elias’ work on marriage enrichment and mutual forgiveness with Mt. Tabor Counseling
- Infertility is Martyrdom Blog Post
- Doors and Windows Blog Post
This week, Jillian turns the microphone over to our Theological Editor, Stacey. In this episode, you get a front-row seat to a talk Stacey gave about finding her identity in Christ on her path of infertility. She shares the important role seeing a counselor played for her amidst many appointments, surgeries, and diagnoses. Her honest and intentional talk encourages us to look to Christ as the source of our identity and the supplier of hope. If you desire to place your identity and suffering in Christ's hands, hit play on this episode!
Links:
- The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur
Our special guest today is Certified Fitness Trainer and Nutrition Coach, Shalini Blubaugh. Moved with honesty and the Holy Spirit, Shal comes on to share her story about coming to know the Lord and how her relationship with Him is the foundation of health. She reminds us to follow the peace and to focus less on what we are doing, and more on who we are becoming. You won't want to miss this one!
Links:
- Pray. Train. Grow. Website
- Pray. Train. Grow. Instagram
Sometimes going to the best place where we can be, Sunday Mass, can feel like a struggle in a season of loss or infertility. There can be so many triggers to our grief, like the big family sitting in front of us, or someone's prodding questions after Mass. Father Paul and licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane, give us some practical tips on how to be more present during Mass so we can receive all of the comfort and blessings the Lord wants to pour down on us.
Links:
- Changing Your Mindset with Eileen Tully
- Digital Toolkit
On this week's episode, we welcome Eileen Tully back to the podcast, this time to talk about how a mindset coach might be helpful to someone on the path of infertility and loss. What is the difference between a therapist and mindset coach? How do our circumstances, thoughts, and emotions interact? What does St. Paul mean by taking all thoughts captive? Listen to today's episode to find out!
Links:
- Eileen's Website
- Metanoia Catholic
- Podcast: Journeying Through the Tough Stuff
Join podcast host, Jillian Kubik, as we pray for an increase in awareness around the cross of infertility and in gratitude for all the Simons and Veronicas who are walking with us physically, mentally, and spiritually on this path. We are so honored to walk with you!
During National Infertility Awareness Week, we invited Family Nurse Practitioner, Rachael Marshall, to join the conversation and share what a holistic approach to the practice of medicine looks like, especially when working with couples experiencing infertility or loss. Feel free to forward this epiosde on to any providers you know, and if you are a provider desiring to increase your awareness, we are here to walk with you, too!
Links:
- Connect Medical Clinic
- Pursuing Treatment Options w/ Caroline Gindhart and Clare Kane
- Entering into Treatment with Surrender w/ Caroline Gindhart
- Early Pregnancy Loss Association
What does good support from the Diocesan level look like for those suffering from infertility or loss? From her own experience, Deanna Johnston, Director of Family Life for the Diocese of Tyler, shares tips for what dioceses can do to accompany those struggling. It's not necessarily providing a solution to their problems, but acknowledging them and loving them through it.
Links:
- How to create an Infertility webpage on your Diocesan or parish website
- Liturgical Digital Toolkit
This week, Jillian welcomes back Founding Mama, Ann, to talk all about what it means to be a Simon. If you know someone in your life who is experiencing infertility or loss, it can be challenging to figure out the best ways to show up for them. To that end, Ann and Jillian give practical step-by-step suggestions for accompaniment in todays's episode. And if you are walking with someone on the path of infertility, please know we are here for you, too!!
Links:
- Infertility Awareness Page
- Our Website jam-packed full of resources!
National Infertility Awareness Week is in just a few weeks, but here at Springs, we like to increase awareness all month long! This week, Jillian and Fr. Paul kick off this awareness series by discussing simple ways new and seasoned pastors can implement support for those carrying the cross of infertility in their parishes. And because each parish is a family unit, Fr. Paul gives some great suggestions on how each pastor can nurture marriages and affirm that each marriage has a mission! Did you know your marriage has a mission? Listen to find out what that is, and send this episode to your pastor!
Links:
- Fr. Paul's Email: fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
We welcome back, Nurse Practitioner, Caroline Gindhart, and Psychotherapist, Clare Kane, to continue the discussion around treatment focusing on the discernment of when it may be time to take a break. What are some signs to look for when a pause might prudent? Is this giving up? They will answer all of these questions and more on this episode so listen in!
Links:
- Pursuing Treatment Options w/ Caroline Gindhart and Clare Kane Podcast Episode
This week on the podcast, Nurse Practitioner, Caroline Gindhart, and Psychotherapist, Clare Kane, team up to deliver a message related to discerning and seeking treatment during infertility. They share great advice on how to stay in the driver's seat during the process while consulting and cooperating with a provider.
Links:
- Caroline' s Practice
On the podcast this week, we are honored to welcome Christendom College Theology professor, Mary Ellen Stanford, who gives us a wonderful understanding of the differences between spouses and how it's all a part of God's great design in bringing fruit to marriages and thereby to the world.
Links:
- The Obedience Paradox: Finding True Freedom in Marriage
Your podcast host starts off Lent on the right foot: with prayer! In a season focused on returning our gaze to Christ's Paschal Mystery, we are so honored to walk with you this Lent, wherever you are on the path of infertility! Find your favorite place to pray, turn off all distractions, and pause to pray with us.
Links:
- Lent Carried Bundle
- Submit a Prayer Request
- Fifth Station Sticker
We have a real treat today as we have not one, but TWO priests on the podcast! Cassandra welcomes Fr. Chris Kight from the Diocese of Owensboro, KY along with Fr. Paul, to discuss friendship with God. What does friendship with God look like in our lives, especially when we are carrying a heavy cross?
Links:
- How to Contact Fr. Paul: Fr.Paul@springsinthedesert.org
Back by popular demand, licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane, rejoins Jillian on the podcast to continue their conversation regarding friendship. They go into the history of friendship, what it looked like in the past and what it looks like now. They discuss ways to cultivate solid friendships cooperating with God and relying on Him to meet that basic need when maybe we don't have the energy for making new friends in a season of infertility or loss.
Links:
- Clare's Practice
- Hold On To Your Kids
This week, Jillian turns the microphone over to our Communications Manager, Cassandra. In this episode, you get a front row seat to a talk Cassandra gave all about acknowledging the grief of infertility. Through her personal story, Cassandra shares the many ways grief may manifest in our hearts and what the stages of grief might look like on the path of infertility. Her witty personality and honest reflection remind us that it is okay to grieve and mourn and that Jesus knows exactly what you are going through and is with you in this very moment.
A lot of what we hold as proper for friendships is learned from the culture. But is what it's saying regarding friendship accurate? Licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane, returns to the podcast to shed light on some of these lies so that we can enjoy friendships the way God intended them to bless us.
Links:
- Clare's practice
This week, Jillian takes you and your spouse through a guided Dream Date with God. Grab your journal, find your favorite place to dream, and open your heart to receive all that the Lord desires for you in this season! From your relationship with God and your spouse to knowing your community and yourself, the Lord has big dreams for you!
Today, your podcast host, Jillian, leads you through a guided prayer experience. Grab your journal, your spouse, or even a friend, and find 10 minutes to pause in the midst of your busy day to pray along with us. It's an honor to pray with you!
Links:
- Submit a Prayer Request
The beginning of a New Year is a popular time to look at the year ahead and ask ourselves what are goals or dreams we'd like to achieve or realize. We suggest including your spouse in this practice by going on a 'Dream Date!' Set some time aside for the two of you to connect where you can enter into one another's plans and hopes for the new year.
Links:
- Stephanie Weinert's Website
- Weinert Dream Date PDF
Now that the busyness of the holidays is over, schedules have cleared and distractions have lessened, we are reminded again of the cross of infertility we carry. Licensed counselor, Edward Luersman, joins team member Jillian to get back to the basics. Let's challenge some of those inaccurate thoughts that maybe have returned. Let's remember that our family started the day we were married and we don't have to wait to start living until our family 'looks' the way we thought it would.
Links:
- Edward's Practice
- Navigating Infertility in the Workplace w/ Edward Luersman
- How Should We Process Grief? w/ Edward Luersman
As is tradition at Springs, we like to start the New Year off with a podcast on the Saint and Word of the Year. There is a fun online tool that can inspire and enrich our prayer lives while offering another opportunity to grow in friendship with a certain Saint. Let us know what word and Saint you received, we'd love to hear!
Links:
- Saint's Name Generator
- Word of the Year Generator
Merry Christmas, Springs Community! We are blessed to have Fr. Paul join us for another episode, this time focusing on Christmas and how in our infertility journeys, we can ponder all of these things in our hearts like Mary did.
Advent is a time of preparation, but what does that really mean and why are we preparing for Christ who has already come? Father Paul takes us through a beautiful Advent reflection and helps unpack questions like these as well as advising us on how to tailor our Advent plans when we are feeling burdened by the cross of infertility. Even if it seems Advent took you by surprise this year, it's never too late to enter into the season!
Links:
- Making the Most of this "Little Lent" with Father Paul Podcast Episode
Advent may look differently this year than you imagined when struggling with the cross of infertility or loss., but Advent living doesn't isn't just for children; it's for you too! Team members Katie and Jillian share some of their favorite Advent traditions that you could begin in your home or with your spouse. We'd also love to hear yours! Please share your ideas with the Springs community so we can benefit from your great ideas!
Amy Brooks from, 'Prayer, Wine, Chocolate' shares her infertility story with Jillian this week. Amy has a real gift of networking and connecting with the Catholic community. Amy explains how her life of prayer, friendship, and work all weave together, which may even inspire you to speak candidly with others during a season of infertility. You never know what connections God will use!
Links:
- Amy's Website
- Catholic Influencer's Christmas Catalog
Our Lord tells us in the Gospel of Matthew 18:3 that, in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, we need to become like children. This advice also holds true for those of us grieving infertility or loss. Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Bryan Hanan, joins the Durnan's on the podcast this week to unpack what it means to heal by connecting with our inner child.
Links:
- Brya's Website
- Brya's Book
As we approach holiday gatherings, we wanted to air the second episode in a two-part series dedicated to boundary setting. We welcome back our dear friend and licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane, to answer the questions we ran out of time for on the first episode. For instance, how do we figure what our boundaries are? And what do we do when others don't respect the boundaries we set?
Links:
- Part 1
- Clare's Practice
Knowing healthy relationship boundaries and setting them can be an invaluable strategy when carrying the cross of infertility or loss. Licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane, sits down with Jillian and helps us unpack this. What are boundaries? Can Christians set boundaries? What do I do if it's uncomfortable to set them? All of these questions and more will be brought to the table.
Links:
- Clare's Practice
Life isn't easy, as most of us would agree. Our special guest this week, Eileen Tully, has lived through her own share of traumas and sorrow. But she is still full of exuberance and joy and shares with us some wisdom she has picked up along the path of grief. Maybe even with a quote from The Office thrown in!
Links:
- Eileen's Website
As we move into a more festive season of the year, the idea of inviting friends and family over for a party or get-together may be a common thought. With her wealth of wisdom on what hospitality means and what it can look like, return guest, Steffani Aquila, shares her insight. Remember, the evil one wants to isolate us, but God knows our hearts need community, so the holidays might look like throwing a party or they might look like simply asking a friend to come over and hang out.
Links:
- His Girl Sunday Website
- His Girl Sunday Instagram
- Steffani's New Book
- What is Liturgical Living Podcast with Steffani
Did you hear? Springs in the Desert Small Groups are now live! Don't miss this episode all about starting a small group, and don't worry, we will be back with a brand-new, full-length episode next week!
We have a dynamic duo on the podcast this week to share with us their experience facilitating a small group. They are Meg Reister and Bernadette Juliano, and their story is uplifting and inspiring. They share what gifts and graces the Lord has brought into the world through their small group and how it has helped them carry the cross of infertility. Please see the link below to find a small group to join, or better yet, how to start your own. You have what it takes! Be not afraid!
Links:
- Start or Find a Small Group
- Join our Newsletter!
- God as Carpenter w/ Dr. Megan Reister
- Secondary Infertility Stories w/ Dr. Megan Reister
- ”My Small Group Experience” by Dr. Megan Reister
- Spiritual Motherhood is for All Women Podcast Episode
- Our Small Group Page
- Diving Deeper Into Small Groups Podcast
Jillian sits down with our good friend, Mary Bruno, to discuss that, although prayer can be difficult in a season of infertility, there are so many ways to speak to and hear from God! If you are looking for new ways to prayer, be sure to check out Mary's newest book, Holding Space for Joy, which just might be the companion you are looking for in your life of prayer!
Links:
- Holding Space for Joy by Mary Bruno
- Stepping Into Suffering with Mary Bruno
- What is Spiritual Motherhood? with Mary Bruno
- Twelve Stripes Deep
- Mary Bruno's Instagram
- Mary Bruno's Website
We explore the topic of infidelity on the podcast this week with licensed psychotherapist, Clare Kane. Clare joins us again to navigate how we can address infidelity in our marriages if that is something we are suffering through. Even if infidelity isn't a cross we have to deal with, Clare brings additional insight into leaning into our spouse to create an abundantly beautiful marriage.
Links:
- Clare's Practice
On today's episode, Jillian is joined by a fan favorite: Clare Kane, Professional Contributor for Springs in the Desert and Psychotherapist to have an important conversation about intimacy after medical trauma has been experienced. If you are struggling to reapproach intimacy in this season of infertility, this episode might be a helpful start. Clare not only explains medical trauma, but shares tips on where to begin reapproaching intimacy with your spouse both emotionally and physically.
Links:
- Keeping the Spark Alive
- Going Deeper with the Five Love Languages
- The Intimacy Episode
- The Connection Between Trauma and Hope
- Moving Forward From Medical Trauma
- Strengthening Our Marriages through Gratitude and Forgiveness
We are immensely grateful to Katie Axelson for coming on the podcast this week to share her astonishing story. It’s more than just a story of survival. It’s a story of God touching and healing our wounds with such tender mercy and love. Katie is hopeful her story will help others not feel alone as God uses it for His glory.
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It’s a real gift to have Fr. Elias Dorham on the podcast this week to talk about how to practice gratitude and forgiveness in our marriages. Fr. Elias has a strong background in marriage related ministry, and you will find lots to savor and meditate on from the discussion. Please listen and be blessed by his gentle words of encouragement and please let us know how you practice gratitude and forgiveness in your marriage. We’d love to hear!
Links:
- Blog Post by Ann
- Mount Tabor Counseling
- Examination of Conscience
- Podcast Miniseries on Examining Our Conscience
- Strengthening Marriage through Mutual Forgiveness Webinar
- Fr. Elias' Parish
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We wanted to bring Meg Reister and Bernadette Juliano back on the podcast to dive a little deeper into small groups. The first episode they recorded with us brought up so many great ideas for why and how to start a small group that we wanted to take more time to hear more of the nuts and bolts of how small groups function. If leading or participating in a small group has piqued your interest, you'll want to listen to this episode to learn more!
Links:
- How to Start a Small Group with Meg and Bernadette
- Spiritual Motherhood is for All Women Podcast Episode
- Our Small Group Page
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In celebration of our upcoming Founding Day, the two women who started this ministry, Kimberly and Ann, take us back in time to when it all began. It's a beautiful story of two women, united by a common cross, who found each other, and then carried that cross to build a community where couples walking the path of infertility would feel seen and heard. You'll even hear the story of how the name of the ministry, 'Springs in the Desert', was born!
Links:
- Springs in the Desert
- Springs of Love
- Founding Day Donation Page
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Jillian and Cassandra sit down with Suzy Younger, Notre Dame Marriage Prep Coordinator and Certified FertilityCare Practitioner, to discuss what it is like to undergo a hysterectomy. We discuss what it is like to receive a diagnosis that would lead to a hysterectomy, what it might be like to prepare for and recover from the procedure, and how this procedure can affect a woman and her spouse both spiritually and physically. Even if your story is not the same as Suzy's, this episode highlights that God is present, even on the hardest days on the path of infertility.
Links:
- Fertility Care Practice
- Heart Prints from Studio Senn
- Jesus, I Trust in You
- Embracing Edith Stein by Ann Costa
- Trusting God in the Present by Fr. Jacques Philippe
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We have a dynamic duo on the podcast this week to share with us their experience facilitating a small group. They are Meg Reister and Bernadette Juliano, and their story is uplifting and inspiring. They share what gifts and graces the Lord has brought into the world through their small group and how it has helped them carry the cross of infertility. Please see the link below to find a small group to join, or better yet, how to start your own. You have what it takes! Be not afraid!
Links:
- Start or Find a Small Group
- Join our Newsletter!
- God as Carpenter w/ Dr. Megan Reister
- Secondary Infertility Stories w/ Dr. Megan Reister
- "My Small Group Experience" by Dr. Megan Reister
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We are thrilled this week to have well known writer, radio host and speaker, Leigh Snead, on the podcast again. Leigh is very real as she shares the difficult emotions she has had to work through while carrying the cross of infertility while at the same time valiantly picking up her cross knowing her place is needed and valued in the greater Body of Christ.
Links:
- The Catholic Association
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To go deeper in our theme this month of "We Are Part of The Church," we invited Mikki Sciba on to the podcast to discuss how the diocese can serve those suffering from infertility and loss, even while personally carrying that burden. Mikki works as a catechetical specialist for the diocese of Tyler, Texas. She shares some of the wisdom she has learned while taking part in diocesan ministry as it relates to couples on the path of infertility.
Links:
- Life Beyond the Chariot Podcast
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We turn to two wives of Byzantine Catholic priests, Alyssa West and Jocelyn Abyad, to help kick off our theme this month titled, 'Being Part of the Church.' These lovely ladies share their perspective on this theme as it relates to their own struggles with infertility/loss in their local Byzantine parishes.
Links:
- Jocelyn's Facebook
- Jocelyn's Instagram
- We Carry You Still
- Byzikid Magazine
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This week's special guest is Christina Valenzuela, a certified NFP instructor, owner of Pearl & Thistle, LLC, and author of a new book entitled, The Language of Your Body: Embracing God's Design for Your Cycle. NFP charting is an important activity and can benefit our lives and our marriages immensely, however, sometimes during a season of infertility, we can become hyper focused on the chart and it becomes a major distraction depleting the health of our marriage or preventing us from being fruitful in other ways. One of those examples of fruitfulness we dive into is the idea of radical hospitality. Let's not miss what else God might be calling us to during a season focused on our chart.
Links:
- Christina's Website
- Christina's Instagram
- Christina's Book
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During National NFP Awareness Week, we thought it a great idea to welcome back a close friend of this ministry, Chris O'Neill, the Director of Marriage and Family Life for the Archdiocese of New Orleans. Chris helps articulate why those carrying the cross of infertility may have mixed feelings about NFP, charting, etc., then helps us refocus on how to build deep, strong relationships with our spouse.
Links
- What's the Issue with IVF? podcast episode
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In this Desert Reflection, we join in conversation with married couple, Matthew and Katie Summers, to discuss why it's so important to go on dates with your spouse after you tie the knot followed by practical advice on how to plan these dates and invest that time to deepen your relationship with your spouse and strengthen your marriage. Just like dating was so important when you were just starting out, it's equally important once you are married. This is our encouragement to grab your spouse and plan a morning, afternoon, or evening together. Then just enjoy each other's company!
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On this week's episode with one of our dear friends of the ministry and licensed counselor, Clare Kane, we chat about medical trauma and how it can manifest itself in our lives. With personal experiences, Clare shares how this trauma can occur and how to deal with it when it does.
Links:
- The Body Keeps Score by Bessel van der Kolk
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What does it look like to enter into treatment with surrender? We welcome back nurse practitioner, Caroline Gindhart, to share with us her thoughts on this topic as well as other insights she has from years of working with couples struggling with infertility.
Links
- Navigating Infertility Treatment with Your Healthcare Provider
- Caroline's Practice
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We welcome back Chris O'Neill, Director of Marriage and Family Life for the Archdiocese of New Orleans, to help deepen our understanding and awareness of the Church's teaching on In Vitro Fertilization (IVF). With the increasing use of IVF, we dive into where the Church gives guidance on this topic, reflect on the good, holy, and healthy desire for children, and begin to discuss some of the concerns with this Assisted Reproductive Technology (ART).
Links:
- Donum Vitae
- Dignitas Personae
- Catholic Teaching on IVF Podcast with Dr. Marie Meaney
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Whether it's month after month of negative pregnancy tests, getting off a call with a doctor's office about results, or even receiving the good news that a friend is expecting, we've all found ourselves in some pretty intense and often challenging moments. Licensed counselor, Clare Kane, chats with Jillian and Cassandra about how we can live through these moments, digesting the news, yet not letting that news consume us.
Links:
- Mental Health Awareness and Infertility Blog Post
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During the month of June, we are focusing on that daily decision of surrendering and entrusting our lives to God. But how do we practically do that? Jillian and Katie provide some insight on how to develop a strong prayer life, because it's during that time with God, we really get to know Him and listen to all that he wants to tell us.
Links:
Katie Zalany is 38 years old, married and lives in Cleveland Ohio. She is a Third Order Secular Franciscan (OFS), certified spiritual director, benefits/wellness leader, certified health and life coach, and an active volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul ministry and The Fruitful Hollow ministry for infertility. She is the creator of the ministry Women in Waiting | Made for Fruitfulness and is the published author of Called to Corporate.
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As we close out May, the month of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Jillian and Katie reflect on Mary's example of fruitfulness as it stems from her relationship to God. Just like Mary, we are beloved sons and daughters of the God the Father and Mary, Our Mother of Sorrows, is our blueprint for living a faithful, fruitful life.
Links:
- Our Lady of Sorrows Blog Post
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As we recently finished our successful 'Cherished' retreat in Phoenix, we wanted to explore the idea of a retreat on the podcast this week. Jillian and Cassi help us understand what a retreat is, what it does for us, and how to make one whether it be at a retreat center or simply in the comfort of our own home. We would also love to bring a retreat to your town so please share this episode with your Diocesan leaders so we can help build a community for you locally. You are not alone!
Links:
- How the Church Can Support Catholics Experiencing Infertility
- Small Groups
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Since last week we heard about how husbands can support their wives in a season of infertility or loss, we thought it fitting this week to hear about what women can do to support their husbands on this journey. Jillian welcomes back psychotherapist and theologian, Clare Kane, on the podcast to chat about some of the best ways wives can walk alongside their husbands as they carry the cross of infertility together.
Links:
- Clare's Practice
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With Mother's Day around the corner, we wanted to bring the husband's out there some great advice on how best to walk alongside their wives who may be struggling on this day. Ian Duran joins our host, Jillian, to share what he has found to be helpful for his wife on a day that can be filled with emotions. Let us know of any other ways you've been supported on Mother's Day and feel free to share the below resources with your Pastor!
Links:
- Mother’s Day Resource for Pastors
- "Mother’s Day is Hard, and Father Should Know"
- Infertility Awareness Resources
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We warmly welcome Leigh Snead on the podcast this week to talk about the topic of feminine fruitfulness. Leigh is a well known writer, radio host, and speaker who shares with Jillian her ideas on the topic of feminine fruitfulness. Leigh reminds us that although homemaking and creating things are beautiful, you don't have to "do" anything for your fruitfulness to shine forth. You have so much to offer this world!
Links:
- The Catholic Association
- Carrying the Cross of Infertility: An Open Letter
- Conversations with Consequences Radio Show
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You might be asking yourself why we've decided to talk about trauma during this month of April when we have been focusing on hope and new beginnings, but there is an important connection we want to share. We welcome back psychotherapist and theologian, Clare Kane, to explain what trauma really is, how it can manifest itself, and what you can do about it.
Links:
- Resources & Links to Counselors
- Emotional Temperature Article
- How Should We Process Grief? with Edward Luersman
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We've arrived at the third and final minisode of our theological virtues series, this time focusing on the virtue of Love. Father Paul joins Ann to begin unpacking what love really is, and spoiler alert, it's not what the world will try and tell you or sell you. The great news for us is that real love is so much deeper because it involves Jesus!
Links:
- 1 Corinthians 13
Want to "up your game" with love? Do this fun exercise - and share your experience with us:
Try replacing the word “love” in St. Paul’s list of characteristics with your own name, and your spouse’s.
How do you measure up? Where can you improve?
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In this second minisode of a three part series on the theological virtues of Faith, Hope, and Love, we'll explore the virtue of Hope. Ann and Stacey discuss what it is and what it is not. They will talk about practical ways to help you cultivate the virtue of Hope. Also, they'll discuss the accompaniment of the saints on our journeys of infertility. Let's aim to be like St. Peter advises, always at the ready with an answer for the reason for our hope!Links:
- Catechism of the Catholic Church 1817 & 1818
- The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur
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In this first minisode of a three part series on the theological virtues of Faith, Hope, and Love, we'll explore the virtue of Faith with psychotherapist and theologian, Clare Kane. Clare explains what Faith is and how it's lived out in our own personal prayer lives, but also in our marriages. Listeners please let us know how you are putting your faith into action!
Resources:
If you are in Connecticut and seeking a counselor, connect with Clare at Harborlight Counseling.
Learn more about Faith in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Try Clare and Wade's "bookends of prayer" with 15 seconds to start the day - "Lord, bless my husband's/wife's day and fill him/her with peace."
- and 60 seconds at bedtime, asking each other, "What would you like prayer for?"
Let us know how you are "keeping the faith" in marriage!
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If you missed our Lenten retreat titled, "Into the Garden", then this episode is especially for you. We will continue our recent meditations on a couple of the gardens in Scripture and how those encounters with God relate to infertility. May this discussion enrich your prayer time this Holy Week!
Resources:
Thoughts on Embers: A Lenten Reflection
A Holy Week Reflection on Infertility
Bright Sadness
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Continuing the theme of work during the month of St. Joseph, we take a deeper dive into how to gracefully handle situations at work that may be difficult during a season of infertility. Ann invites Todd and Stacy Stephenson on the pod to explore ways we can be charitable to our coworkers while at the same time taking care of ourselves.
This episode will offer some tools so you can create your own “emergency self-care response toolkit,” to feel more equipped to handle sensitive situations at the office.
Resources:Love, Hate, or Somewhere in Between? Thoughts on Work
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Do you sometimes have negative thoughts and feelings around your job - especially in a season of infertility? In this Desert Reflection Ann and Cassandra take a look back at thoughts about work as shared by members of our community. They share with each other how even a "dry" work situation can be fertile ground for fruitfulness - for ourselves, our marriages, and those around us.
It's March, the month of St. Joseph. Let us ask his intercession as we develop healthy attitudes regarding work.
Links: Memorare to St. Joseph: https://ascensionpress.com/pages/memorare-to-saint-joseph
Consecration to St. Joseph: https://consecrationtostjoseph.org/
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We know the workplace can be another area of our lives where the cross of infertility can feel heavy. That's why we wanted to welcome licensed counselor, Edward Luersman, back on the podcast. Edward shares practical ways we can feel seen yet safe at work while carrying the cross of infertility without feeling crushed by it. Please share with us any coping strategies you've found helpful for the workplace, because they might be helpful for someone else!Links:
- 5 Ways to Cope with Pregnancy Announcements
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We've arrived at the fourth and final episode of our Examination of Conscience series in which we will reflect on our relationship with ourselves. As usual, Fr. Paul will take us through an examination but this time we'll think about the ways we've treated ourselves and the beliefs we've carried about ourselves in the past. May this final examination draw us even more into the heart of the season of Lent as we come and ask for healing from our Lord.
Links:
- Springs Examination of Conscience
- An Examination of Conscience: Our Relationship with Others
- An Examination of Conscience: Our Relationship with Our Spouse
- An Examination of Conscience: Our Relationship with God
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This week we air our third podcast in our miniseries on examining our consciences. The Springs in the Desert spiritual Father, Fr. Paul, takes us again into an examination as we look at our relationships with others. It's a gift to live in community yet sometimes it can be a real challenge. May this examination help us open ourselves up to the grace the Lord wants to give us this Lent!
Links:
- Fr. Paul's Email
- Ministries, Counseling & Spiritual Direction Page
- Prayer of St. Ephrem
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We welcome back Fr. Paul to this second episode in a miniseries on examining our consciences. He and Jillian discuss why it's common to experience fear and discomfort surrounding the Sacrament of Confession, but why it's completely not necessary! To end the episode, we'll again dive right into another examination where we take some quiet time and individually examine our relationship with our spouse. May this short prayer time help us start our Lenten journey off on the right foot.
Links:
- Fr. Paul's Email: fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
- Springs in the Desert Examination of Conscience
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Welcome to the first podcast in a miniseries on examining our consciences. Father Paul, our Springs in the Desert spiritual Father, explains what an examination is and why it's healthy and beneficial to do regularly. Then we'll actually dive into one where we take some quiet time and individually examine our relationship with God. This should be a prayerful and meditative time to help us prepare for the beginning of Lent!
Links:
- Fr. Paul's Email: fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
- Springs in the Desert Examination of Conscience
- Prayer of St. Ephrem
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Our special guest this week, Bethany Meola, discusses Life Giving Wounds, a ministry she founded with her husband, which helps adult children of divorce or separation find healing. Do you come from a broken home? Have your parents been separated or divorced? If you have wounds from your family of origin, you are not alone. Remember, the Lord wants us to live joyful and abundant lives, no matter the crosses we carry. Despite her own experience of infertility, Bethany shares her marriage's encouraging story of fruitfulness by way of adoption, founding a ministry, and publishing a book!
Links:
- Life-Giving Wounds Website
- New LGW Book
- Contact: bethany@lifegivingwounds.org
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We welcome back special guest and licensed counselor, Clare Kane, on the podcast this week to discuss intimacy in a season of infertility. She shares some common threads she sees when meeting with couples struggling with infertility as it relates to intimacy. If this is an area of your marriage where you're seeing some wounds emerge, you're not alone. Clare will help put words to why we may be feeling the way we are, and what we can do to bring healing and help restore our relationships with our spouses in this area.
Links:
- From Infertility to Menopause Podcast Episode
- The Five Love Languages Quiz
- Clare's Practice
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In this Desert Reflection, Jillian and Stacey dive a little deeper into The Five Love Languages as we continue to reflect on how to keep the spark alive with our spouse. Being in tune with how our spouse ticks, can deepen our bond with them and strengthen our marriages which is something we all want!
Links:
- The Five Love Languages
- The Five Love Languages Quiz
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It can be a challenge to keep the flame alive during a season of infertility. Springs team members, Ian and Cassi Durnan, share with Ann their own personal struggles in their marriage when it comes to daily connecting with their spouse at a deep and intimate level. They also reveal some ways they've worked through things to get to a place of mutual nurturing, encouragement, and care in their relationship. After listening, you'll feel enticed to pour energy into your relationship with your own spouse and get to know them even better than before!
Links:
- Five Love Languages
- Five Love Languages Quiz
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Happy New Year Springs in the Desert Listeners! We'll start the year off revisiting an old favorite, the Word of the Year. Have you picked a word for the year yet? Springs team members, Ann and Cassandra have, and they go deep sharing their personal reflections and insights as they unwrap what their words mean for them. Spoiler alert, one of the words is 'trust' and what they discuss regarding it, may be just what's sitting on your heart too.
Links:
- Saints Name Generator
- Word of the Year Generator
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Jillian and Ann discuss the various conversations where one might face challenges in a season of infertility in today’s episode. From setting up an appointment to talk with your pastor and navigating questions from family and friends to having fun with your spouse and changing up your practice of prayer, they talk through how to begin these conversations that may be difficult to navigate. Together, we can change the infertility conversation, so be sure to share your suggestions with us!
Links:
- Fr. Paul's email: fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
- Springs in the Desert Instagram
- Springs in the Desert Facebook
- Infertility Awareness Resources
- Resources for Spouses, Pastors, & Medical Professionals
- The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence
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On the pod this week we welcome Mari Wagner, co-owner with her husband, of West Coast Catholic, a popular Catholic lifestyle brand. Mari shares about all things homemaking with Spring's team members, Allie and Cassandra. She offers some great advice on how to make your house a home in which the art and decor can draw your gaze up to heaven. She also shares some pearls of wisdom on building intentional community and fostering the habit of praying the rosary.
Links:
- West Coast Catholic Website
- West Coast Catholic Instagram
- Mari's Instagram
- From House to Home Free Download
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Advent is here! Ann chats with Fr. Paul about how we can take advantage of this beautiful season in the Church to get close to the Lord. Just as we would prepare our house for Christmas, we can take this opportunity to prepare our souls as well. Ann and Fr. Paul give some tailored and practical advice as it relates to prayer, fasting and almsgiving during a season of infertility. Let us help you set the stage for your "Little Lent!"
Links:
- "The "Winter Lent": Advent in the Byzantine Rite
- Springs' Advent Resource
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Cassandra and Jillian chat with Mary Bruno all about Spiritual Motherhood and how to cultivate it. They discuss that because infertility exists, we can be confident that God has entrusted us with many avenues in which to be fruitful. Through discernment and our daily “yes,” spiritual motherhood and fatherhood make God’s love tangible to those around us in an abundance of ways!
Links:
- 12 Stripes Deep
- Mary Bruno's Instagram
- Mary Bruno Website
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Our Desert Reflection this week deals with the timely topic of gratitude. As we are about to sit down at the Thanksgiving table, it's an appropriate time to consider the feelings of gratitude we may sometimes struggle to cultivate during a season of infertility. Ann and Cassi help renew our perspective on gratefulness and offer practical suggestions so we can go from rotely listing our blessings to really experiencing the joy of gratitude deep within our hearts.
Links:
- John 6:1-15
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Are you praying in desperation? Do you wonder why it seems God is answering everyone else's prayers except your own? Fr. Paul shares his wisdom regarding prayer with Ann and Jillian on this week's desert reflection. We are importantly reminded that God always answers our prayers though not always how we had envisioned or in our timing. But it's always better than what we had in mind!
Links
- Women at the Well Virtual Prayer Group
- Fr. Paul, the spiritual Father for Springs in the Desert, is available for spiritual direction, prayer, or just simply to talk! You can reach him at fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
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What does being okay with being okay look like in a season of infertility? Ann and Cassi share how it's possible to grieve your infertility while also experiencing deep joy and surrender. It doesn't mean that you don't have your hard days, but rather, that you can still enjoy an abiding peace all while knowing God is working everything out for your good.
Link
- Blog Post - The Difference Between Acceptance & Giving Up
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Have you been thinking about adoption? Not sure where to start? It's normal to have a lot of questions and maybe even some fear. Cassandra chats with Catholic writer, Emily Stimpson Chapman, and one of the Springs founders, Kimberly Henkel, and picks their brains on all things adoption. If you feel like God might be calling you to adopt, you'll want to listen in!
Links:
- Emily's Website
- Emily's Instagram
- Emily's Facebook
- Springs of Love
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In today's episode, Ann and Jillian invite special guest, Victoria Cerise, back on the show to discuss a deeply personal and difficult topic, grieving a miscarriage. Victoria generously shares her story of loss and offers healthy suggestions on how to journey through the grief that often accompanies miscarriage. They discuss the difficulties that even this community can face in comparing the crosses we carry, but they share ideas of ways to lighten the cross for each other.
Links:
- The Nursery of Heaven
- Springs in the Desert Instagram
- Springs in the Desert Facebook
- Mystical Rose Photography Website
- Mystical Rose Photography Instagram
- Victoria Cerise Instagram
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This week Cassandra and Ann welcome special guest and licensed counselor, Clare Kane, to the podcast. The women discuss processing the transition into menopause and where it intersects with the experience of infertility. Clare shares some of her story and gives encouragement to those walking this path into a new horizon of life and marriage.
Links:
- A God at Hand: Part One
- A God at Hand: Part Two
- Clare's Practice
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We welcome back Jamie Rathjen of the Fiat Institute this week to discuss a deeply personal topic to her, miscarriage. Jamie shares with Jillian and Christina her own story of loss and its physical, emotional, and spiritual effects on her. Although a heavy cross, we see through Jamie's story God working all things for the good for those who love Him.
Links:
- Behold Your Child Ministry; Archdiocese of Debuque, Iowa
- The Hormone Genius Podcast
- FIAT Institute Website
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For our Desert Reflection this week, Jillian welcomes back licensed counselor, Edward Luersman, on the podcast. The topic of discussion is on grief and how it can manifest itself during infertility. It is completely acceptable and healthy to grieve your infertility, and Edward gives our listeners some practical tips on how to process that grief.
Links:
Edward's Practice
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On the podcast this week, we welcome Theresa from The Loveliest Masterpiece. Theresa shares with Springs team members, Jillian and Cassi, her story of infertility, miscarriage, and hope. Just like no two women's infertility journey's are the same, Theresa talks about the multiple crosses of infertility and loss she has carried. She also talks about her ministry called, The Loveliest Masterpiece, which creates specially curated gift boxes for women in various places on the path of motherhood. Theresa reminds us that by sharing our stories, we can bring healing to our lives and to others'.
Links:
- The Loveliest Masterpiece Instagram
- The Loveliest Masterpiece Facebook
- The Loveliest Masterpiece Website
- Big Daddy Weave's My Story
- The Bearing Fruit Box
- Divine Mercy Care Amazon Wishlist
- Mary Bruno
- Sunday Bead Co.
- Saints Joachim & Anna Sticker
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Ann and Jillian discuss the traps we can fall into during the busy seasons of the year. As the summer comes to a close, they share ways to reset your personal calendar, your marriage, and your prayer life. By learning to say "no," entrusting our unfinished tasks to God, and inviting Him into your calendar planning, you can reset when you need it most. The best part? You can reset every day, because His grace is new every morning!
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We hear this concept thrown around often in the Catholic sphere, but what does it really mean, to live liturgically? Cassandra and Ann welcome special guest, Steffani Aquila, from His Girl Sunday, to discuss this topic. Steffani gives some great ideas on how to start living liturgically if we've never done so before, or new ideas to try if it's something with which we're already familiar. She reminds us living liturgically is not something only families with children can do, but that it's a gift for everyone, adults most definitely included!
Links:
- HisGirlSunday Website
- HisGirlSunday on Instagram
- In Tune with the World by Josef Pieper
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In today's Desert Reflection, Ann and Fr. Paul explore the lives of Saints Joachim and Anna, the Virgin Mary's parents. Since these saints are the patrons of Springs in the Desert, it's only fitting we get to know them and learn from them, especially how they carried their cross of infertility. These saints are perfect role models of how to grow in holiness, even in times of great trial.
Links:
- The Protoevangelium of James
- Under the Laurel Tree: Grieving Infertility with Saints Joachim and Anna by Nicole Roccas
- Saints Joachim and Anna Sticker
Celebrate our Founding Day with a gift to help us create greater awareness and equip our pastors and family ministers to accompany those in a season of infertility. It's our honor to walk with you!
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Jillian and Christina welcome Edward Luersman to today's episode. Edward is a Springs in the Desert contributor and licensed professional counselor whose focus includes infertility, miscarriage, and their associated grief. He begins by sharing about some of the common feelings and experiences he sees in his practice among people struggling with infertility or loss. Then he discusses how we might often see God the Father through the lens of our earthly father, which can lead to a misunderstanding about who God the Father really is. Our human relationships are imperfect, and our earthly fathers fall short and even disappoint us. But God is our eternal, loving Father, whose arms are always open to us.
Links:
- Edward Luersman—Spirit of Peace Clinical Counseling
- Watch The Chosen
- On the Blog: "The Father Encourages Us in Our Every Affliction"
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During a season of infertility, going to Confession can be difficult. Maybe we've been hurt by insensitive advice in the past from a confessor. Or maybe, we've never had a correct understanding of Confession. Father Paul West chats with Ann about how to reframe our understanding of Confession to more easily and frequently approach the Lord's Mercy.
If you'd like to talk or receive spiritual direction, email Fr. Paul at fr.paul@springsinthedesert.org
Links:
- The Gift of Confession in a Season of Infertility (examination of conscience)
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In the second of two episodes recorded with special guest Victoria Cerise, we dive into what marriage prep didn't prepare us for and how we can help enhance it for future couples. A lot of good comes from Catholic diocesan marriage prep courses, however, preparing a couple for the cross of infertility is most often not part of the discussion. Listen in for ways that dioceses and parishes can open up conversations around infertility in marriage prep, and consider offering these suggestions and the tools available from Springs in the Desert to your diocesan Family Life director or pastor!
Links:
- Fruitfulness through Photography w/ Victoria Cerise [The Springs in the Desert Podcast episode]
- Victoria on Instagram
- Mystical Rose Photography
- Mystical Rose Photography on Instagram
- The Catholic Bride Facebook Group
- The Catholic Wedding Podcast
- Discerning Adoption w/ Megan Wolf [The Catholic Wedding Podcast episode]
- The Beauty of Adoption [The Catholic Wedding Podcast episode]
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Being active in parish life can be a struggle when you are longing for a child. Your parish is supposed to be your family, a place of rest in the Lord and fellowship, but when you are in a season of infertility, that same place can feel very isolating. This Desert Reflection reminds you that your parish needs you, because you have gifts that no one else has. Your marriage is essential to building up the Kingdom of Heaven, starting right in your parish. Stacey and Ann offer some practical suggestions for using your gifts, and we invite you to share with us any creative ways you have found to serve your parish. They may be helpful ideas for others to try!
Links:
Infertility Awareness Resources
What I've Learned From You About Fruitfulness (blog post)
Exploring Spiritual Motherhood (blog post)
5 Things I Wish My Pastor Knew About Infertility
- English
- Spanish
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This week Jillian and Ann welcome special guest Chris O'Neill, Director of Marriage and Family Life for the Archdiocese of New Orleans. Chris not only speaks to the reality of the suffering of infertility, but the important role those struggling with it play in the Church. Chris draws from the wisdom he gained from his formation at the John Paul II Institute, his own personal experience, and his growing understanding of the struggle and potential fruitfulness of this cross through ministering in the Archdiocese. The path of infertility can feel like a lonely walk, but this conversation encourages those on the path to know that the Church sees them and is walking with them.
Links:
Archdiocese of New Orleans
Chris's Email: coneill@arch-no.org
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The Springs in the Desert Team is on summer break - but we'll be back next week with another full length episode! Please enjoy this replay episode on focusing on Christ, not conception. This is an important reminder for all of us as we walk the path of infertility, but especially as we deal with decisions regarding treatment and charting our cycle (it is NFP Awareness Week, after all!)
Jillian and Christina discuss the idea of hope and how—even through ups and downs, and when the desires and dreams in life don't turn out the way we envisioned—we have the certainty of our "Great Hope" in Christ. Let's anchor our hope in Him today as we continue to walk this path together!
Resources:
Benedict XVI, Spe Salvi
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In this first of two episodes, Jillian and Cassandra visit with special guest Mary Bruno. Mary shares her own personal infertility story, and the fruit that has come from that suffering. She also talks about Twelve Stripes Deep, the book she wrote detailing her story, and her non-profit dedicated to fertility awareness. Mary's story is real and honest, and ultimately inspiring!
Links:
Mary Bruno on Instagram
Mary's book Twelve Stripes Deep
FAbM Base
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In this fun episode, Jillian hosts a returning guest, Natalie Blackford, to talk about her experiences with low-toxin living for overall better health. Natalie has a real passion for living more naturally and with great enthusiasm she shares some helpful tips and tricks to get rid of toxins in your life. This episode is not meant to be intimidating or cause stress (even small changes can often make us feel better!), but for those who want to learn more about this way of life, you won't be disappointed listening to Natalie's suggestions!
Links:
Natalie's Wellness Group
Natalie's Instagram
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Our special guest this week is Jamie Rathjen, founder of the Fiat Institute, a program which trains women across the U.S. to become hormone coaches. Her mission is to better help women understand their hormone health by offering suggestions for natural lifestyle changes that can help make a difference in their hormone health.
For many of us on the path of infertility, charting feels like something we must do as a means to accomplish a goal. When charting feels forced—even exhausting—Jamie asks listeners to consider where we can find our "feminine genius" in the process. She reminds us that women are more than our "signs and symptoms," and that charting is a helpful tool, but it's just part of our health and infertility stories.
Links:
The Hormone Genius Podcast
Fiat Institute
Discovering the Feminine Genius by Katrina Zeno
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Did you know that God lovingly and carefully picked your cross for you? Jillian and Alissa talk with Dr. Megan Reister about this idea of God as a carpenter, chiseling away in His workshop. No two crosses are the same, so we should never compare our cross with another person's. What gifts has the Lord hidden in your cross? Listen to this podcast to learn more and be inspired!
Links:
"At the Foot of the Cross" by Kim Kalman
Secondary Infertility Stories w/ Dr. Megan Reister
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In this light-hearted Desert Reflection, Jillian chats with Alissa West about listening to music as a means to foster healing. She touches into the science behind it as well as her background as a music therapist. They also compare the effectiveness of listening to religious vs. secular songs. Please let us know any of your go-to songs that have helped you on the path of infertility!
Links:
Songs to Inspire Hope - Spotify Playlist
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Our special guest this week is speaker and author Elizabeth Kelly. Liz has written numerous books for women to help them realize God's beautiful plan for their lives even when things seem to be going off the rails. Though they only scratch the surface of her books, Jillian and Ann's conversation with Liz explores the goodness of our desires, learning to surrender them to God, and trusting in the healing and fulfillment that God will bring into our brokenness. Liz will draw you in with her gentleness and sincerity as she speaks to the heart of each listener with comforting words of wisdom.
Links:
The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola
Liz Kelly's Website
Jesus Approaches by Liz Kelly
Love Like a Saint by Liz Kelly
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Today on the podcast, we welcome Fr. Paul West to teach and encourage us how to pray—especially when we don't feel like it or are in a season of dryness. He gives advice on the best time to pray, where we should pray, and especially how we can pray. After listening to this podcast, you'll feel motivated and inspired to put your phone and other distractions away and just show up to listen and talk to God because He has much to tell us!
Links:
Explanation of the Liturgy of the Hours from the USCCB
The Jesus Prayer: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
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Our special guest this week is Victoria Cerise, a Catholic wedding photographer who travels all over the United States capturing photos for weddings and other special occasions. Jillian and Ann chat with her about her work and the many opportunities for fruitfulness she finds in it. Victoria also invites us to remember that, even for those in a season of infertility, there is so much in life to celebrate! She shares some great ideas for documenting our marriages, times with family and friends, and capturing special memories with a photo session. Please visit her website below to check out her phenomenal work!
Links:
Mystical Rose Photography
Victoria on Instagram
Mystical Rose Photography on Instagram
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In this Desert Reflection, Jillian and Cassandra discuss the pros and cons of social media use. There are many wonderful things about social media, however, most of us are aware of the damage social media can do to our mental and emotional health. You'll hear some practical advice on how to use social media in a healthy and balanced way, such as setting app limits and turning off notifications. Listen to hear some more tips!
Links:
5 Ways to Cope with Pregnancy Announcements during Infertility
Springs in the Desert Instagram
Springs in the Desert Facebook
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What is Springs of Love? Jillian and Ann talk with Kimberly Henkel about the sister ministry she started that helps couples discern foster care and adoption. Don't miss the beginning of the episode for a great discussion on spiritual motherhood and the importance of grieving infertility while in the process of discernment. If you feel called to foster care or adoption or are just curious about what that looks like, you'll want to listen in and hear some remarkable stories that Kimberly shares.
Links:
Springs of Love
The Connected Child by Karyn Purvis
Fostered by Tori Hope Peterson
Springs of Love Foster & Adoption Stories on EWTN on Demand
Springs of Love Foster & Adoption Stories on Formed.org
10 Ways to Support Vulnerable Children in Foster Care
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During a season of infertility, Mother's Day can be the hardest day of the year. Jillian and Ann give some great advice on how and why you can celebrate this day too. If you're feeling anxious or sad, ask the Blessed Mother to hold your hand. She understands this is can be a very difficult day. Also, remember that your community at Springs in the Desert is holding your hand too and is standing with you.
Links:
- Mother's Day Resource for Pastors
- 5 Things I Wish My Pastor Knew about Infertility (print pamphlets can be ordered here)
Virtual Retreats (contact us for the passwords):
- Arise
- Belonging
- Springs of Hope
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Jillian sits down with Dr. Megan Reister and Alissa West to listen to their personal stories of walking the path of secondary infertility. This conversation reminds us that there are all different types of infertility and no two paths are identical. Sometimes it can be difficult to find a physical community of friends in your area who understand how you're feeling or the place you're in. That's why Springs in the Desert was created! We want to remind you that this community is for you: you do belong here!
Prayer:
O Lord, I come to you with a gracious heart for trusting me with the souls of your children. Help me to be a worthy example of faithfulness, love, and trust in You. Let me never take for granted how precious their lives are. Let me never forget the intense longing felt while navigating the waters of infertility, or the elation and relief upon their birth. Help me to be a gentle, patient, and understanding mother, remembering that each day with them is a gift.
Lord, as I navigate through the waters of motherhood, I find myself between two worlds of women: those still experiencing infertility, and those who have borne children. I can't help but feel guilty as though I've left the first group behind, while simultaneously feeling misunderstood in the latter group as I carry the scars of infertility; scars that most mothers don't fully understand.
I pray that those still longing for motherhood find fruitfulness in all the gifts You bestow them. I pray that those women with effortless fertility find wonder and awe in the miracle of life. I pray that those who find themselves in between find camaraderie among all women. I pray that women find their place in Your glory no matter their circumstance—infertile, fertile, and anywhere in between.
Amen.
- Job 1:21
- "Meeting at the Gate" by Katie Wood
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Jillian and Cassandra talk about three important steps you can take to help advocate for those carrying the cross of infertility. Don't be scared! It can be as easy as sending an email! We invite you to listen, pray, and discern what steps you can take to help increase knowledge of infertility in your family, community, or parish. If we all do something little, it can make a huge impact!
Links:
Infertility Awareness Resources
What to Say to a Loved One who is Struggling with Infertility
Free Download: Mother's Day Bifold for Pastors
Diocese of Manchester NH: Infertility, Miscarriage, and Loss
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Here at Springs in the Desert, we wanted to clarify our mission. Jillian, Ann, and Cassandra reemphasize to our listeners that we are here to minister to you wherever you fall in the wide spectrum of seasons or types of infertility. Maybe you are actively trying to conceive, we are here for you! Maybe you are beyond child bearing years, we are here for you! Maybe you already have children but are struggling with secondary infertility, we are here for you as well! Please don't deny yourself the support you need. You are welcome here!
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We've all had it happen. A family member or friend asks us a sensitive question or gives advice regarding our struggle with infertility that comes across as unkind and hurtful. Jillian and Ann sit down and discuss practical and charitable ways to handle these situations. Most people don't realize their comments are insensitive—and really, they just care about us. Remember they are carrying a cross too, so just as we should be gentle with ourselves, let's be gentle with others.
Please let us know any tips or responses you've used when someone makes an unkind remark. We'd love to hear!
Resources:
Luke 23:34
The Lord's Prayer
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This episode contains sensitive topics, so we invite you to listen with care.
Becoming pregnant after losing one or more children to miscarriage, stillbirth, or infant loss can be a very joyful yet anxious time. Jillian, Ann, and Cassandra talk about the various emotions that come along with a pregnancy after experiencing the trauma of loss in the past. They discuss the fact that a new baby doesn't remove all of the grief from the past nor replace other children who were not able to be carried to term. Also, they give advice on how to stay positive and hopeful during a new pregnancy.
Resources:
Podcast Episode: Pregnancy after Infertility
Blog Post: "Searching for God in the Darkness of Loss"
Catholic Child Loss Ministry: Red Bird Ministries
After Miscarriage: A Catholic Woman's Companion to Healing & Hope by Karen Edmisten
Grieving Together-A Couples Journey Through Miscarriage by Laura and Franco Fanucci
Nursery of Heaven: Miscarriage, Stillbirth, and Infant Loss In the Lives of the Saints and Today’s Parents by Cassie Everts
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In this Desert Reflection, Jillian and Christina sit down to discuss the importance of keeping our focus on Christ as we travel the path of infertility. They discuss the idea of hope and how—even through ups and downs, and when the desires and dreams in life don't turn out the way we envisioned—we have the certainty of our "Great Hope" in Christ. Let's anchor our hope in Him today as we continue to walk this path together!
Resources:
Benedict XVI, Spe Salvi
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With the Solemnity of St. Joseph occurring during the month of March, we ponder the life of this holy man and what he teaches us about being a holy spouse. He has much to show us during a season of infertility, given the unique ways men and women were created and their unique ways of grieving and problem solving. We also discuss some of the history of St. Joseph and ways to celebrate and venerate him. St. Joseph, Comfort of the Sorrowing, pray for us!
A Man's Take: St. Joseph w/Fr. Paul West
Matthew, Chapter 1 & Chapter 2
Luke, Chapter 2
Book recommendation: Consecration to St. Joseph: The Wonders of Our Spiritual Father by: Fr. Donald H. Calloway, MIC
Litany of St. Joseph
Visit our website to learn more about Springs in the Desert, and make sure to follow us on Facebook and Instagram so that you don't miss a thing! We are walking with you on the path of infertility through our retreats and events, blog, podcast, resources, and more. Also, feel free to check out our sister ministry, Springs of Love, which encourages, educates, and equips Catholics to discern and live out the call to foster and adopt. God bless you!
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In the third of a three-part Lenten miniseries, Jillian and Ann discuss the third pillar of Lent, almsgiving. Many people give money or material goods to the poor. Jillian and Ann discuss other ways of doing justice pleasing to God. Some examples include gifts of our time, skills, kind words, or prayers. Tune in as they dig deeper into each one with concrete examples you may want to try!
Resources:
- Stepping into Lent: A Focus on Fasting
- Preparing for Lent: A Focus on Prayer
Visit our website to learn more about Springs in the Desert, and make sure to follow us on Facebook and Instagram so that you don't miss a thing! We are walking with you on the path of infertility through our retreats and events, blog, podcast, resources, and more. Also, feel free to check out our sister ministry, Springs of Love, which encourages, educates, and equips Catholics to discern and live out the call to foster and adopt. God bless you! It is our honor to walk with you!
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This podcast episode features practical ideas on how to help ease the burden of those suffering from infertility. Ann, Jillian, and Christina share personal stories of people ministering to them and how they've helped others who are struggling.
This is a great episode for any family members or friends of someone carrying the burden of infertility who want some concrete advice on how they can help. Or, if you are in a place where you feel called and able to lend a helping hand, please listen in and let us know what you think!
Resources:
Navigating Infertility Treatment with Your Healthcare Provider
The Gift of Suffering
Bridget
Visit our website to learn more about Springs in the Desert, and make sure to follow us on Facebook and Instagram so that you don't miss a thing! We are walking with you on the path of infertility through our retreats and events, blog, podcast, resources, and more. Also, feel free to check out our sister ministry, Springs of Love, which encourages, educates, and equips Catholics to discern and live out the call to foster and adopt. God bless you!
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In the second of a three part Lenten miniseries, Jillian and Ann discuss the second pillar of Lent, fasting. Besides fasting from food, there are additional things you may want to try fasting from. Some examples include fasting from negative thoughts, television, or social media. Again, let's first come to the Lord and hear what His beautiful Lenten plan is for us!Resources: Link to the first Lenten minisode: https://anchor.fm/springsinthedesert/episodes/Desert-Reflections-03-Preparing-for-Lent-A-Focus-on-Prayer-e1v0l4e
It's Ash Wednesday and Lent has begun! Do you every ask yourself why we do what we do during Lent? Father Paul speaks with Ann and Jillian and explains where some of our Lenten penitential practices come from and the reason behind why we partake of them during this season. This episode will surely give you a great start to these next 40 days!
Resources: Invitation to Encounter (Lenten Virtual Retreat) https://springsinthedesert.org/encounter/
https://springsinthedesert.org/thoughts-on-embers-a-lenten-reflection/
In the first of a three part Lenten miniseries, Jillian and Ann sit down and discuss their prayer preparations for this penitential season. Sometimes the most fruitful prayer plans aren't complicated, rather simple, heartfelt and deeply sincere. But the first and most important step is to ask God what He desires of our prayer life this Lent. Let us know what your prayer plans are!
Resources:Catholic Apostolate Center https://www.catholicapostolatecenter.org/lent-and-easter-resources.html
This week's episode deals with pregnancy after a long period of infertility, and we know how sensitive this topic may be for some of you. Please listen with care, and know that we're here to walk with and support you. Team member, Stacey, talks with Ann and Cassandra about the range of emotions she faced when finding out she was pregnant after years of trying to conceive. With great vulnerability and honesty the three friends discuss what it's like when a friend is blessed with a pregnancy, while you continue struggling with infertility. They get honest about how the friendship dynamic changes, and how to navigate it with sensitivity, compassion, and love.
Resources: https://springsinthedesert.org/holding-gabriel/
https://springsinthedesert.org/keeping-vigil-with-the-mother/
https://springsinthedesert.org/waiting-on-god/
Moving into a new home or apartment can be very exciting. Team members Jillian and Cassandra recently moved into new homes, and they discuss the blessings and challenges that come with the territory. Deliberating about what color to paint the walls or what couch to buy, at its worst can leave us frustrated with our new home or in an argument with our spouse, but at its best, shows our careful intentions and strong desire for hominess and hospitality, as well as the desire to open our home to family and friends for gatherings. Jillian and Cassandra also touch on the importance of a house blessing and how you can tie it into a housewarming party!
Dr. Marie Meaney is back again this week with Ann and Cassandra to focus the conversation around the sensitive topic of artificial reproductive technologies (ART) and what the Church teaches in this area. They dig into the reasoning behind these teachings, recognizing that God's law is not always easy to follow but that it's there for our ultimate good as well as our health and happiness.
Resources: When Expecting Doesn't Happen: Turning Infertility into a Journey of Hopeby: Dr. Marie Meany
https://stpaulcenter.com/product/when-expecting-doesnt-happen-turning-infertility-into-a-journey-of-hope/
Official Website of Chiara Corbella Petrillo https://www.chiaracorbellapetrillo.org/en/
In this Desert Reflection, Ann and Cassandra have a little fun talking about two words that came out of the Word of the Year generator, the words "witness" and "ask," and how those words can be applied in their personal lives and in this ministry. For example, are our words and actions a good "witness" to our faith in Him? Are we humble enough to "ask" people to pray for us? Try the Word of the Year generator, and see what word can challenge you to live as a closer disciple of Jesus.
Resources:
Word of the Year generator: https://www.wordoftheyear.me/
Saint of the Year generator: https://saintsnamegenerator.com/
It seems like everyone has made a New Year's resolution at some point. Some people succeed at keeping them through the year, but for the majority of us, they tend to fizzle out. In this week's episode, Jillian, Ann and Cassandra discuss reasons humans are wired to make resolutions and the emotions that come when we don't meet our own expectations. They draw similarities between this and the adventure of the spiritual life as well as the 'goals' we set in our unique fertility journeys.
Resources: The Monk Manual - https://monkmanual.com/
Our very special guest this week is Dr. Marie Meaney, a philosopher, academic - and a wife who knows well the isolation and suffering of infertility. She joins Ann and Cassandra to discuss her book, "When Expecting Doesn't Happen: Turning Infertility into a Journey of Hope." Dr. Meaney speaks with the eloquent and thoughtful words of a highly experienced and respected academic but with such sincerity and tenderness it'll feel as if she's speaking just to you. Please don't miss out!
Resources: When Expecting Doesn't Happen: Turning Infertility into a Journey of Hope by: Dr. Marie Meany
https://stpaulcenter.com/product/when-expecting-doesnt-happen-turning-infertility-into-a-journey-of-hope/
Saint Pope John Paul II's Apostolic Letter titled, 'Salvifici Doloris: On the Christian Meaning of Human Suffering'
https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_letters/1984/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_11021984_salvifici-doloris.html
Allie and Cassandra chat with special guest Sydnee Blackburn about different ways spouses can prepare during Advent and celebrate during Christmas the joys and blessings of the season, even when this time of year may look different than anticipated. During this podcast, we hear about practical tips and traditions we can start with our own families no matter how big or small the size. Journeying through infertility during the quiet of Advent can help us better prepare for Christmas Day as we refocus on the most important gift of all, Jesus Christ. Please leave a comment below and let us know some Advent/Christmas traditions you have!
Resources: How Far Is It To Bethlehem: The Plays and Poetry of Frances Chesterton by Frances Chesterton | Goodreads
Infertility comes up often in movies and TV shows. For this week's podcast, Allie and Cassandra chat with Sydnee Blackburn about some of these specific movies and shows. They discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of how infertility and loss are portrayed and dealt with. If there's anything you've watched that you think does a great job in portraying infertility or maybe doesn't do a good job of it, we'd love to hear from you, so please drop a comment in the chat or on our social media page.
Resources: this clip from Julia and Julia and this link for Up. this article from Catholic Stand that talks about the power of story, even in secular films.
In this episode, Allie and Cassandra welcome back Natalie Blackford to discuss Safe Families, a beautiful Christian program where you can volunteer to open your home to children in need of a temporary place to stay ranging anywhere from one day to three months. Natalie shares her family's joyous experience welcoming vulnerable children into their home and the impact it's had on herself, her husband, and her daughter. A very different type of program from foster care, Safe Families is all about living out the Gospel through loving God and others through serving the most vulnerable.
Resources:
- Safe Families Website: https://safe-families.org/
- Reflection from the blog, titled, "Trusting God's Plan":https://springsinthedesert.org/trusting-gods-plan/
We invite you to listen this week to a very powerful interview between Ann, Jillian and Kelly Breaux, cofounder of Red Bird Ministries. Kelly shares a moving personal story of child and pregnancy loss, infertility, and the grief, anger and depression that followed in their wake. She opens up about how this experience deeply affected and challenged her relationships with God and her husband; but, it was navigating this suffering that ultimately brought her closer to both. Kelly will inspire you to become docile like the Blessed Mother and to carry your cross with the strength of Christ.
- Resources: Red Bird Ministries Website: https://www.redbird.love/
- Our podcast this week features a conversation between Ann, Cassandra and NaPRO trained nurse practitioner, Caroline Gindhart. Caroline addresses common experiences and emotions that patients most often live through as they are seeking help. She offers advice on how to have a relationship with your medical care provider in which you feel heard and treated with dignity. Caroline also offers some ideas for husbands to exhibit solidarity with their wives during the treatment process as well as discerning when it might be time to step back from some parts or all of treatment for a short time. Whether you are seeing or have seen a practitioner regarding infertility issues or are considering seeking help for the first time, listening to this talk with Caroline will help you in your journey!
- Resources: Finding a NaPRO medical consultant in your area: https://fertilitycare.org/find-a-mc Finding a Catholic doctor/practitioner in your area: https://mycatholicdoctor.com/ Caroline Gindhart's page on Divine Mercy Health: https://providers.upmc.com/provider/Caroline+Gindhart/1369089?_ga=2.64416422.826281554.1664362689-700830093.1664362689
This week, Stacey talks with longtime friend and mentor Father Jacob Meyer regarding pastoral care for those struggling with infertility. What should priests do and say when a parishioner comes to them with this struggle? Father Jacob speaks candidly about what he has learned journeying with these couples and can offer practical advice for any priest unsure how to respond. You'll surely want to share this with your parish priests!
- Resources for Your Pastor: https://springsinthedesert.org/resources/#Pastor Contact Us to Request Brochures or other resources to share with your pastor: https://springsinthedesert.org/contact-us/
This month, we welcome back Kim Colby to chat with Cassandra and Allie about her recent pilgrimage to Lourdes with the Archdiocese for the Military Services. We talk about prayer and healing in Lourdes, the intercession of Our Blessed Mother, and the blessings of making a pilgrimage while experiencing infertility, regardless of whether you travel locally, regionally, or abroad. Listen in and be uplifted in your walk with Christ!
Resources:
Vlog: Healing in Lourdes - https://springsinthedesert.org/healing-in-lourdes/
Blog: On Hope and Miracles - https://springsinthedesert.org/on-hope-and-miracles/
Podcast: Beyond Conception: Re-conceiving Healing in Infertility - https://open.spotify.com/episode/78Q1pyn9LtWSvg9bvUWfQ1
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In this episode, we welcome Springs in the Desert contributor Kim Colby to the podcast along with returning guest Natalie Blackford. Each of these women has experienced infertility while being a member of the military community - Kim and her husband both served on active duty and Natalie's husband currently serves. We talk about the culture of family life in the armed forces as well as the challenges that come with deployments and temporary duty travel (TDY) that form a part of military life. Listen in for advice on how to approach long periods of separation from your spouse and ideas for how to be fruitful in the waiting!
Resources:
Military Council of Catholic Women
Catholic Military Life Podcast: "Kimberly Colby on Infertility in the Military"
In this episode, we welcome Christina Valenzuela from Pearl and Thistle back to the podcast to chat with Kimberly and Allie about her work as an NFP instructor using the Boston Cross Check method. We address many of the difficulties that couples with infertility experience while using NFP (how to include your spouse in the process, giving yourself permission to take a break, being honest with your practitioner, etc.). We discuss that while NFP can definitely lead to freedom in marriage, it's OK if NFP doesn't become a major part of your life, and it's even OK to let it go.
Resources:
Pearl and Thistle (https://www.pearlandthistle.com/#/)
Boston Cross Check method of NFP (https://www.bostoncrosscheck.com/)
Blog Post: Me and NFP, It's Complicated (https://springsinthedesert.org/me-and-nfp-its-complicated/)
In this episode, we welcome Christina Valenzuela from Pearl and Thistle to the podcast to chat with Kimberly and Allie about how our cycles/bodies as women are good, regardless of their "fertility status"! We talk about some of the lies that can crop up around this topic, and how to deal with them. Listen in and be reminded of the truth that your creation is a gift from God, even when life (and fertility) looks different than expected.
Resources:
Pearl and Thistle (https://www.pearlandthistle.com/#/)
Mark 5:21-43 (https://bible.usccb.org/bible/mark/5)
Blog Post: Maybe (https://springsinthedesert.org/maybe/)
In this episode, Stacey, Allie, and Abby discuss the temptation many of us feel to achieve fertility "at all costs" - from the pressure to take every last pill and undergo every procedure to believing the lie that God will withhold a baby if we choose to take a break from treatment. We share honestly about these temptations to make fertility an idol and speak the truth about our relationship with the Lord and our identity as His daughters. We also discuss how we are learning to trust and listen to Him above all the other voices, and to rest in His love. Listen in and know that you're not alone!
Resources:
Vlog: Am I doing enough? (https://springsinthedesert.org/am-i-doing-enough/)
Article: The Charism of Infertility, by Tim O’Malley (https://churchlifejournal.nd.edu/articles/editorial-musings-the-charism-of-infertility/)
Article: The Gift of Infertility by Dr. Jameson and Jennifer Taylor (https://catholicexchange.com/the-gift-of-infertility-part-4/)
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In this month’s episode of A Man’s Take, James welcomes Deacon Amarante, a good friend of Springs in the Desert. They discuss the experience of secondary infertility, seeking healing beyond just the physical means, the importance of turning toward your spouse through difficulties in marriage, and the call to greater love that exists within every marital vocation. Come along with us to have your spirit lifted in your walk as a son or daughter of God!
Resources:
Blog: Love in Infertility (https://springsinthedesert.org/love-in-infertility/)
Blog: Infertility and Healing (https://springsinthedesert.org/infertility-and-healing/)
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In this month’s episode of A Man’s Take, James welcomes his good friend Fr. Paolo Puccini, CSP to the podcast to talk about vocation and the call to live for others. They discuss discernment, living out their respective vocations without biological children, and how both the sacraments of Matrimony and Holy Orders point us to Heaven. Come along with us to have your spirit lifted in your walk as a son or daughter of God!
Resources:
Blog: What’s In A Name (https://springsinthedesert.org/whats-in-a-name/)
Blog: Finding Fatherhood in Infertility (https://springsinthedesert.org/finding-fatherhood-in-infertility/)
Paulist Fathers (https://paulist.org/)
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In today’s episode, Cassandra, Allie and Ann talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to social media use as Catholic women experiencing infertility. They chat about everything from receiving support from others online to struggling with pregnancy announcements and gender reveal photos, and share practical ways they are learning to use social media intentionally. Listen in and know you're not alone!
Resources:
Podcast: Comfort and Joy: Surviving "Announcement" Season w/ Natalie Blackford
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/comfort-and-joy-surviving-announcement-season-w/id1519015883?i=1000541308366
Made For Greatness (www.madeforgreatness.co)
Blog Post: The Heart of a Mother is Built into Me (https://springsinthedesert.org/the-heart-of-a-mother-is-built-into-me/)
Blog Post: The Vocation Idol (https://springsinthedesert.org/the-vocation-idol/)
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In today’s episode Ann welcomes Jillian and Alissa, who both work in ministry, to talk about how pastors and fellow parishioners can offer encouragement and understanding to those in a season of infertility. They discuss how priests and parish staff can support women and couples and help them to feel welcome and part of the parish family. And, they give some practical tips on how to approach pastors for support.
Resources:
Blog Post: Mother’s Day is Hard, and Father Should Know - Alissa West
Blog Post: Prayer in a Season of Infertility - Cayce Farina
Resource: 5 Things I Wish My Pastor Knew About Infertility
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In this episode, Allie welcomes new guests Michele Chronister and Danielle Abril, who both work in the Office of Natural Family Planning within the Archdiocese of St. Louis. We share personal stories of infertility and loss and discuss how the Archdiocese of St. Louis is currently reaching out to couples experiencing these crosses. If you are looking for support locally within your own church or Diocese, Michele and Danielle give some wonderful suggestions and thoughts for you to consider! Please join us and know that you are not alone.
Resources:
Blog Post: Everything Is Yours: Surrendering to God’s Plan by Danielle Abril (https://springsinthedesert.org/everything-is-yours-surrendering-to-gods-plan/)
Video: Archdiocese of St. Louis Monthly Enkindle Rosary w/ Cassandra Taylor: (https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=560115188592194)
Blog: Unrepeatable Blessings by Danielle Dyann Abril (https://unrepeatableblessings.com/)
Blog: My Domestic Monastery by Michele Chronister (https://www.mydomesticmonastery.com/)
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In this episode, Allie and Cassandra welcome new guest and Springs in the Desert team member Jillian Kubik to share her story of how the Lord is helping her grow in her vocation as a wife, through her adventures as a “roamin' ” Catholic, and through the experiences of infertility and loss. In our discussion, we recall the importance of rest: from the Spanish siesta to God the Father Himself resting on the seventh day to the words of Our Lord, “Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest” (Matthew 11:28). The Lord wants us to give Him all of our burdens, including infertility. Join us for an encouraging conversation as we together seek to allow this Lenten season to be a time of truly resting in and growing closer to the Lord.
Resources:
Scripture: Matthew, Chapter 11 (https://bible.usccb.org/bible/matthew/11)
Scripture: Genesis, Chapter 2 (https://bible.usccb.org/bible/genesis/2)
Blog Post: I believe, help my unbelief - Prayer in a Season of Infertility (https://springsinthedesert.org/i-believe-help-my-unbelief-prayer-in-a-season-of-infertility/)
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Lent has arrived and we are reminded that we must begin all things with rest in the Lord! In this episode, Allie, Stacey and Abby discuss the importance of physical, spiritual, and emotional rest and the lies we sometimes believe about rest, especially around the experience of infertility. We also talk about simple ways that we’re learning to rest more fully in the Lord through both prayer and play. Come listen in to feel encouraged as a daughter of God!
Resources:
Blog Post: Mother Theresa and the Struggle with Infertility (https://springsinthedesert.org/mother-teresa-and-the-struggle-with-infertility/)
Book: Do Something Beautiful for God, The Essential Teachings of Mother Theresa (https://www.amazon.com/Something-Beautiful-God-Essential-Reflections/dp/1635821207)
Book: Abide by Heather Khym (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/abide-heather-khym/1140461370)
Podcast: Fit Body, Happy Joints (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fit-body-happy-joints/id1561242280?i=1000545130473)
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This month, we welcome new guest Sterling Jaquith to discuss how her work as a Catholic life coach can help those of us struggling with infertility, particularly when it comes to our thoughts. We explore the idea of “managing your mind”, which is not the same thing as non-Catholic practices such as “mindfulness”, but instead encourages us to see ourselves the way God sees us, so that we can rest more fully in Him. Join us for this uplifting and thought-provoking conversation!
Resources:
Made For Greatness (www.madeforgreatness.co)
Made for Greatness Podcast, “Being Judgmental” (https://www.madeforgreatness.co/65-2/)
The Discernment of Spirits, Podcast from Dan Burke (https://spiritualdirection.com/2016/04/22/introduction-to-discernment-of-spirits)
The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence (https://www.amazon.com/Practice-Presence-God-Brother-Lawrence/dp/0883681056)
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This month, Ann, Allie, and Cassandra talk about the one event that brings some of the most intense feelings for those of us women who experience infertility: the baby shower. Whether you’ve struggled with the decision to attend, felt guilty for declining to attend when you’ve needed space to grieve, or failed to make it through without crying, this episode is for you. We share honestly about the challenges, the real feelings of grief, and the opportunities for living out the virtue of generosity that come with invitations to baby showers. Listen in and know that you’re not alone!
Resources:
Blog post: "Reimagining Generosity" https://springsinthedesert.org/reimagining-generosity/
Blog post: "The Unspoken, Invisible Suffering of Infertility: A Counselor’s Take"
https://springsinthedesert.org/the-unspoken-invisible-suffering-of-infertility-a-counselors-take/
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This month, we warmly welcome new guest Sydnee to the podcast to discuss some of our expectations going into marriage, particularly around our visions for our jobs and careers when it came to our hoped-for children. We talk about how we’re working through some of those unmet expectations and challenges, and finding fruitfulness in our work now, whatever it looks like, even though it might be different than what we hoped. We also discuss the beauty of our primary vocation of being a wife, and how we’re learning and growing in this area to better care for our home and our husbands.
Resources:
The Monk Manual – A Daily System for Being and Doing (https://monkmanual.com/)
Essays on Woman by Edith Stein (https://www.icspublications.org/products/essays-on-woman-the-collected-works-of-edith-stein-vol-2)
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This month, we welcome back Abby Kyle to chat with Stacey and Allie about the blessings and spiritual fruitfulness that can come through our jobs and careers. We also talk honestly about some of the unique challenges around working, especially in ministry, when struggling with infertility. If you love your job or career, or if you sometimes feel pressure to “work more hours” when you don’t have children, or if you struggle to find balance between work and rest, then this episode is for you! We share from the heart about these unique challenges and talk about how the Lord is constantly inviting us to intimacy with Him above all else. We also discuss the importance of prioritizing our primary vocations as spouses to our husbands, even as we feel the demanding pull of our jobs. Listen in for this honest chat and know that you’re not alone!
Resources:
Life of the Beloved by Henri Nouwen (https://www.amazon.com/Life-Beloved-Spiritual-Living-Secular/dp/0824519868)
A Psalter for Couples (https://bookstore.magnificat.net/a-psalter-for-couples.html)
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In our last episode for 2021, Ann is joined by Springs in the Desert team members Cassi and Ian for an open conversation about Advent and Christmas in a season of infertility. Waiting for Jesus can be hard when accompanied by waiting for a gift (a biological child) that we may never receive. Cassi and Ian share their infertility story, including the moments of emptiness that can still challenge their ability to enter fully into the season. They speak candidly about how difficult it can be to “see miracles” in the midst of infertility, and the necessity of looking to the Holy Family not as an unattainable ideal, but to find solace and encouragement in the great hardships and struggles they faced. Christmas is the season of “God with us,” and even when we can’t quite perceive Him, He is travelling this path with us every step of the way.
Resources:
The Reed of God, by Caryll Houselander. This is a spiritual classic that is perfect for reading during Advent and Christmas, or anytime we need encouragement that God is with us.
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In today’s episode Ann welcomes two special guests, Stacy and Todd Stephenson, who are members of our Springs in the Desert community. Stacy and Todd share their story of love, marriage, and infertility, and we chat about experiencing the holidays during a season of infertility. Though the holidays are a time of joy and celebration, they can be difficult to navigate and elicit sadness for many of us; for example, when we are separated from family, have lost a loved one, or while we are struggling with infertility. In this conversation, we explore the many ways we can find joy as families of two during Advent and Christmas, by seeking to build up our marriages and strengthen our own domestic churches. Listen in to find accompaniment and encouragement for the season ahead!
Resources:
Praying together helps us grow closer, and be open to receiving the peace of our Savior. Stacy and Todd pray the Novena to Christ the King. We also suggest praying the Saint Andrew’s Christmas Novena during Advent.
Read Stacy and Todd’s post on the Springs in the Desert blog: We Are a Family
Quick Tips:
Pray together! Bring any sadness or other emotions to the Lord. Be vulnerable as He came into this world so small and vulnerable.
Deck the halls! Incorporate ornaments, music and food from your families of origin, and put your unique spin on them to create new holiday traditions.
Share your favorite holiday memories with each other. It’s a great way to learn more about each other and strengthen your bond.
Open your home to others in hospitality and share the Christmas cheer! But take time with each other, too, to listen to Christmas music, watch a movie or just sit quietly in the glow of Christmas lights.
This month, we warmly welcome new guest Jen to the podcast. Jen and Kimberly share from the heart about their experiences of adoption and how they discerned this calling from God. Please join us for this uplifting conversation as we explore how we can trust in the Lord, even it times of great uncertainty and through the grief of infertility, that He has a good plan for each of us. You’ll hear about the beauty of adoption, some encouragement if you’re considering it, and practical tips for how to begin discerning this possible calling in your marriage.
Resources:
Found Documentary (Netflix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7i_E6zm8lM&feature=emb_logo
Wait No More by Kelly & John Rosati https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12573922-wait-no-more
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This month, we warmly welcome new guest Natalie to the podcast to hear her story of unexplained secondary infertility. We talk about the upcoming holiday season and how pregnancy announcements can be especially difficult during this time. We share how God is helping us hold onto joy amidst the sorrow and pain we feel, and how He has a good plan for each of us and for everyone who struggles with infertility. We end with some practical tips, prayers, and ideas for navigating difficult moments of grief during this season of joy and announcements.
Resources:
You can follow Natalie on Instagram at: @natalie_m_blackford or on Facebook: Natalie Blackford.
St Andrew Christmas Novena: https://www.praymorenovenas.com/st-andrew-christmas-novena.
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This month, James welcomes Ian back to the podcast for a fun chat about the importance of pursuing hobbies as men, especially when dealing with infertility. Join us for this light-hearted discussion about how infertility has presented us with new opportunities for growth with the Lord and for creativity as sons of God. The Lord continues to stretch us and draw us to Him in so many ways, and our hobbies are an important part of that. Come along with us to have your spirit lifted in your walk as a son of God!
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Today, we talk honestly about healing and infertility. For some of us, healing in a season of infertility may mean eventually conceiving and giving birth to a child. But many of us are trying to conceive and becoming exhausted and discouraged. Some have received a definitive diagnosis that makes the possibility nearly, or absolutely, impossible. Others are entering menopause or are now past childbearing age, yet still feeling the pangs of pain from a desire that will not be fulfilled. For all of us, the questions remain: Can I be healed? What does healing look like for me? How has God been working in my life to heal me already?
Kimberly, Ann and Cassandra discuss the pain of infertility feels like and how it can be described, and think together about what healing in our infertility even looks like outside of conceiving and giving birth. They reflect on how God has touched their lives so far and acknowledge that grief and healing can be a lifelong process. Finally, they share some practical ways that we can cooperate with God’s grace in order to invite Him into our pain, as we place our hope of being healed in Him alone.
Resources for this episode:
More on Cassandra’s experience at Lourdes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOdTv9PdndU
Lourdes grotto webcam: https://www.lourdes-france.org/en/tv-lourdes/
How to pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet: https://www.thedivinemercy.org/message/devotions/pray-the-chaplet
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This month Allie and Stacey welcome new guest Abby to discuss femininity in infertility. They share from the heart about their own struggles and the easily believed lie that equates womanhood with bearing children. They chat about the truth that God calls each of us to a deeper understanding of our femininity, and the many ways we can live it out. We hope you’ll join us to be blessed and uplifted by this conversation!
Resources:
My Sisters the Saints by Colleen Carroll Campbell (https://www.ignatius.com/My-Sisters-the-Saints-P1779.aspx)
The Wild Goose Series (https://thewildgooseisloose.com/wild-goose-main-page)
Podcast Series on Servant of God Elisabeth Leseur (https://open.spotify.com/episode/0fIlYh7cEC2gIEDbURRc0n)
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Although we may not think of it in this way, infertility is often as much a spiritual battle as it is a physical and emotional one. Even as we are told to “relax” and “just enjoy ourselves,” we do all the things to try and conceive, which puts pressure on us, causes stress, and perhaps leads to lack of faith in the God who loves us and wants what is good for us.
In this episode Ann, Cassandra and Kimberly get real about the negative thoughts that can destroy our peace, and how the Evil One tries to “push our buttons” to make us believe God is punishing us, withholding His gifts, and even that He doesn’t really love us. They share their personal experiences of battling negativity and offer practical suggestions for turning negative thoughts into opportunities to see God’s grace in abundance. Finally, they share the truth that every woman, regardless of her struggle with infertility, is a beloved daughter of God!
Resources for this episode:
Searching for and Maintaining Peace, by Fr. Jaques Philippe
https://spiritualdirection.com/ has abundant resources on prayer, spiritual direction and battling the lies Satan throws in our path to make us stumble
If negative feelings are adversely affecting your mental health and/or your marital relationship, counseling and therapy are amazing ways that God uses to bring about healing and peace. Check out https://wellcatholic.com/ or https://www.catholictherapists.com/ to find help that is in accord with your faith and values
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Stacey is joined by Katie and Anna for Natural Family Planning Awareness Week 2021. We discuss the good, bad, and the ugly when it comes to using NFP when you're having difficulty conceiving. Language matters and we discuss the different NFP lingo (including the term Natural Family Planning itself) and the connotations we have with them. Finally, we talk about the importance of allowing for a break, whether it's for your mental health or the health of your marriage. You are under No Obligation to do Everything At All Times to increase your chances of pregnancy, and sometimes the best thing to do is to take a big step away from the chart/app/medications.
Prayer we mentioned:
https://pintswithaquinas.libsyn.com/122-how-to-order-your-life-with-fr-ryan-mann
Website for NFP Method comparisons:
https://www.managingyourfertility.com/
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James welcomes Ian to this “A Man’s Take” podcast episode to discuss Father’s Day and marriage as men experiencing infertility. They share insights into how infertility has impacted their marriages: some of the challenges and opportunities it has presented, how it’s provided a unique path to holiness, and with their wives, they’re moving forward with the Lord into new life after infertility. Please listen in!
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This month Cassi and Allie continue our discussion on spiritual motherhood with two very special guests: Sister Anna Rose and Sister Mary Gemma, Franciscan Sisters Third Order Regular of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother! They share from the heart about their experiences of spiritual maternity and the very real desire for physical motherhood, and they provide encouragement for women walking the difficult path of infertility to embrace their own call to spiritually mother – that is, to love, nurture and raise others up to God in a way that is uniquely feminine. We hope you’ll join us to be blessed and uplifted by these beautiful sisters!
Resources:
Nuns and Babies: Part One, Blog Post from Cassi (https://www.springsinthedesert.org/nuns-and-babies-part-1/)
Franciscan Sisters TOR of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother (https://www.franciscansisterstor.org/)
Franciscan Sisters TOR of Penance of the Sorrowful Mother, Life of Intercessory Prayer: Spiritual Motherhood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwLTNxeplUg)
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It’s National Infertility Awareness Week, and we warmly welcome Katie and Alissa to the podcast to chat with Allie about times we’ve felt supported by others through the experience of primary or secondary infertility. We share examples of how family, friends, clergy, and others have prayed, loved, and cared for us through the difficulties and grief we’ve faced. Through this support, we’ve received the tremendous gifts of increased intimacy, growth in prayer, and an expanded understanding of fruitfulness.
Show Notes/Resources:
Blog Post from Sydnee for NIAW (https://www.springsinthedesert.org/how-to-overcome-the-isolation-of-infertility-part-one/)
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This month, James welcomes Fr. Paul Varchola West to the podcast to chat about the man of the year, St. Joseph! The life of St. Joseph is profoundly inspiring for those of us experiencing infertility and loss. Listen in as James and Fr. Paul discuss what we know about St. Joseph from the Bible, how we can relate to him through the experience of infertility, and how we can better devote ourselves to his intercession. St. Joseph, pray to God for us!
Show Notes/Resources:
“My Plans are Not Your Plans”: The Calling of St. Joseph by Michael Dominic Taylor (https://springsinthedesert.org/under-the-patronage-of-st-joseph/)
Patris Corde, Apostolic Letter by Pope Francis (http://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20201208_patris-corde.html)
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This month we warmly welcome Cassi to the podcast to chat with Stacey and Allie about the truth that God made each and every woman – regardless of whether she bears biological children – to be a mother; that is, to love, nurture, and raise others up to God in a way that is uniquely feminine. We call this “spiritual motherhood”. We chat about our own misconceptions about spiritual motherhood, what this motherhood looks like lived out in examples from our own lives, what we can learn from priests and religious, and how truly beautiful it is that all women, including those of us carrying the cross of infertility, are called to mother right now, just as we are.
“The body, and it alone, is capable of making visible what is invisible, the spiritual and divine. It was created to transfer into the visible reality of the world, the invisible mystery hidden in God from time immemorial, and thus to be a sign of it.” (Pope St. John Paul II).
Show Notes/Resources:
Blog Post from Cassi (https://springsinthedesert.org/2021/01/28/living-in-holland/)
Spiritual Motherhood: Every Woman’s Calling (Alice vonHildebrand) (https://www.plough.com/en/topics/life/parenting/spiritual-motherhood)
Spiritual Maternity Sodality (https://spiritualmaternity.org/the-essence-of-spiritual-motherhood/)
Undone by Carrie Schuchts Daunt (https://www.avemariapress.com/products/undone)
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We begin the New Year welcoming Cassandra Taylor to the podcast to tell her story of romance, marriage, travel – and a cancer diagnosis that dashed her hopes of ever bearing a child. Allie, Ann and Cassandra talk about how our hopes and dreams for marriage and the expectations we bring into that relationship can be turned upside down, either breaking us or becoming an opportunity to build a stronger marriage that holds unexpected possibilities for fruitfulness.
Read more about Cassandra’s story on our blog (https://springsinthedesert.org/author/cassandrataylor16/). We talked about St. Teresa of Calcutta – a superstar saint and intercessor who had “great expectations” in following the Lord, yet lived for decades in “spiritual darkness.” Nevertheless, she continually surrendered herself to Jesus’ mercy. We recommend a collection of her letters, Come Be My Light.Here’s the money quote assuring us that no matter how we feel, Jesus is suffering with us, transforming us, loving us: “In you today - He wants to relive His submission to His Father – allow Him to do so. Does not matter what you feel-as long as He feels alright in you. Take away your eyes from your self and rejoice that you have nothing - that you are nothing - that you can do nothing. Give Jesus a big smile – each time your nothingness frightens you.”
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This special episode of the Springs in the Desert Podcast was recorded as part of our Advent virtual mini-retreat, "Praying Through Infertility." Several members of our team got together to talk about their experiences with prayer and their relationship with God as individuals, and in marriage. They shared struggles and challenges, as well as the good fruits of prayer for their marriages, and in carrying the burden of infertility.
Special thanks for this episode to Andrea Mahoney, Phil and Stacey Huneck, Kimberly Henkel, Fr. Paul and Alissa West, and Keith and Ann Koshute. This podcast would not be possible without the skill and dedication of our Producer, Kathryn Wood.
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This book, Under the Laurel Tree, Grieving Infertility with Saints Joachim and Anna by Nicole M. Roccas, has so much wisdom to offer anyone suffering with infertility! Join Ann, Allie, and Stacey as they discuss thanksgiving in infertility: how we can actively choose to be grateful for God's blessings even in the midst of pain, uncertainty, and fear of the future. They share how the marriage of Saints Anna and Joachim provides hope that God's glory can be revealed in us, no matter how our infertility journey ends.
Resources:
Under the Laurel Tree book by Nicole M. Roccas
https://store.ancientfaith.com/under-the-laurel-tree/
The Protoevangelium of James
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0847.htm
Remember Your Death: Memento Mori Journal by Sr. Theresa Aletheia Noble, FSP
https://www.amazon.com/Remember-Your-Death-Journal-Memento/dp/0819865214
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This book, Under the Laurel Tree, Grieving Infertility with Saints Joachim and Anna by Nicole M. Roccas, has so much wisdom to offer anyone suffering with infertility! Join Ann, Allie, and Stacey as they discuss some of the "tough stuff" of infertility, including challenges in prayer and strong emotions like anger and despair. They share how wisdom from the book provides hope for moving from their personal experiences of the dark parts of infertility toward greater intimacy with God.
Resources:
Under the Laurel Tree book by Nicole M. Roccas
https://store.ancientfaith.com/under-the-laurel-tree/
The Protoevangelium of James
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0847.htm
Grieving Together: A Couple's Journey Through Miscarriage
https://www.amazon.com/Grieving-Together-Couples-Journey-Miscarriage/dp/1681921863
In God's Hands Miscarriage and Bereavement Ministry
https://www.stthomasofvillanova.org/in-gods-hands.html
Songs of Praise: A Psalter for Orthodox Women
https://store.ancientfaith.com/songs-of-praise-a-psalter-devotional-for-orthodox-women/
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This book, Under the Laurel Tree, Grieving Infertility with Saints Joachim and Anna by Nicole M. Roccas, has so much wisdom to offer anyone suffering with infertility! Join Ann, Allie, and Stacey as they discuss the theme of grief and infertility. They share moving wisdom from the book and quotes that speak to and affirm the difficult experience of infertility grief, and they discuss insights and personal examples from their lives about how men and women grieve differently.
Resources:
Under the Laurel Tree book by Nicole M. Roccas
https://store.ancientfaith.com/under-the-laurel-tree/
The Protoevangelium of James
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0847.htm
Springs in the Desert "A Man's Take" Episode on Grief and Counseling
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0AaiktW7RJsM7wSwHdyJ2b
The Traditional Stages of Grief (Kubler-Ross Model)
https://www.healthline.com/health/stages-of-grief#denial
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In this episode of A Man's Take, join James and special guest Edward Luersman, a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in supporting individuals and couples who experience the pain of infertility and miscarriage. James and Edward discuss the grief of infertility from the man's perspective, the benefits of counseling, and how couples can best support each other through infertility and loss.
Resources:
Contact Information for Edward Luersman, LPC, Spirit of Peace Clinical Counseling
http://www.spiritofpeaceclinicalcounseling.com/meet-our-team/edward-luersman/
Understanding the Way Men Grieve by J. Scott Janssen, MSW, LCSW
https://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/exc_0816.shtml
The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work by John M. Gottman and Nan Silver
https://www.gottman.com/product/the-seven-principles-for-making-marriage-work/
The Infertility Companion for Catholics : Spiritual and Practical Support for Couples by Carmen Santamaría and Angelique Ruhi-López
https://www.avemariapress.com/products/The-Infertility-Companion-for-Catholics
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Spiritual, emotional, and physical self-care are essential as we seek to hold onto hope and joy in the midst of infertility and its roller coaster of emotions, challenges, and grief. Self-care is so much more than a spa day! Join Ann, Cayce, Stacey, Phil, and Allie as they discuss the meaning of self-care as well as personal examples of implementing a self-care routine in the context of infertility.
Resources:
The 5 Love Languages (https://www.5lovelanguages.com/)
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In this Women at the Well virtual book club episode on The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur, Kimberly, Allie, and Stacey discuss the marriage of Servant of God Elisabeth Leseur and her atheist husband Felix. They discuss how prayer is the foundation that allows Elisabeth to joyfully fulfill her role as loving wife to her husband, trusting God with the difficulties, longings, and disappointments. They share how Elisabeth provides many hopeful examples of how to navigate infertility within their marriages.
Resources
The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur (https://www.sophiainstitute.com/products/item/the-secret-diary-of-elisabeth-leseur)
The Cause for Canonization of Elisabeth Leseur (www.elcause.org)
Prayer asking for the Intercession of Elisabeth Leseur - Hannah's Tears (https://hannahstears.org/2011/10/16/elisabeth-leseur-servant-of-god/)
The 5 Love Languages (https://www.5lovelanguages.com/)
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In this Women at the Well virtual book club episode on The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur, Kimberly, Allie, and Stacey discuss the interior life of Servant of God Elisabeth Leseur. They share how Elisabeth's example of prayer life, especially her ability to trust God and to allow suffering to bring her closer to Him, brings hope to their personal experiences of infertility.
Resources
The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur (https://www.sophiainstitute.com/products/item/the-secret-diary-of-elisabeth-leseur)
The Cause for Canonization of Elisabeth Leseur (www.elcause.org)
Prayer asking for the Intercession of Elisabeth Leseur - Hannah's Tears (https://hannahstears.org/2011/10/16/elisabeth-leseur-servant-of-god/)
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In this Women at the Well virtual book club episode on The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur, Kimberly, Allie and Stacey discuss the powerful examples of spiritual maternity in the life of Elisabeth Leseur, who spiritually mothered many people, from family members and godchildren to friends, and even her own atheist husband. They share personal reflections on Elisabeth's life that relate to their experiences of infertility and they discuss how to live out the call to spiritual motherhood that is innate to the heart of every woman.
Resources
The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur
The Cause for Canonization of Elisabeth Leseur
www.elcause.org
Prayer asking for the Intercession of Elisabeth Leseur - Hannah's Tears
https://hannahstears.org/2011/10/16/elisabeth-leseur-servant-of-god/
Spiritual Motherhood: Every Woman's Calling by Alice von Hildebrand
https://www.plough.com/en/topics/life/parenting/spiritual-motherhood
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Discerning treatment can be one of the most difficult aspects of the experience of infertility for some couples. During a live event, members of the Springs in the Desert Team respond to questions and discuss their personal experiences of praying through decisions about infertility treatment, the impact of infertility treatment on their marriages, the need for self-care, and relating to others about their treatment decisions. Kimberly addresses the love and protection the Church provides through Her teachings about approved, ethical treatments for infertility.
Resources from this episode:
The Infertility Companion for Catholics
Discerning the Will of God and Discernment of Spirits by Fr. Timothy Gallagher, OMV
What Does God Want? by Fr. Michael Scanlan
Donum Vitae
Recent Blog Post from Lynn on the Experience of Vaginismus
A relationship with God is essential for men to fulfill their mission of becoming saints and leading their wives to Heaven. In this debut episode of 'A Man's Take', a feature of the Springs in the Desert Podcast, James and Phil discuss the importance of prayer and discipline for walking together with their wives through the difficulties of infertility. They share personal examples of how greater intimacy with Christ can strengthen marriage and draw men closer to their wives.
Resources from this episode:
Exodus 90, a 90-Day Catholic spiritual exercise for men
https://exodus90.com/
The Daily Examen (St. Ignatius of Loyola)
Infertility often brings a particular kind of suffering that feels isolating and may negatively impact relationships. In our first episode of the Springs in the Desert Podcast, we address the unique challenges that infertility presents for productive communication with our spouse, family and friends, and others. During a live event, members of the Springs in the Desert Team respond to questions and share personal experiences of learning to better communicate while carrying the burden of infertility in our marriages. We also offer ideas for addressing intrusive questions and discuss communicating our pastoral needs within our church communities.
Resources from this episode:
Why Does God Let Bad Things Happen? Homily by Fr. Mike Schmitz
Akathist to Jesus, Light to Those in Darkness, by Fr. Lawrence P. Farley
The Secret Diary of Elisabeth Leseur, by Elisabeth Leseur
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