The Way Out | A Sobriety & Recovery Podcast: Recent Episodes
Hosted by Charlie & Jason
Sobriety Power Topics and Powerful Recovery Stories to Jumpstart Your Sobriety and Enhance Your Recovery!
Contact Teresa: Instagram: @Teresa_Glam https://www.instagram.com/teresa_glam/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teresa.glam1/
Book Recommendation: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5thEdition: DSM-5: american psychiatric association committee on: 1223131111127:Amazon.com: Books
Best Advice: You are who you hang with
Song that symbolizes recovery: The Cinematic Orchestra - 'To Build A Home' (Official Video)
Resources: Narcan At Night Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61583216950150
Recovery Advocacy Project: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61587666720352
Young People In Recovery: https://youngpeopleinrecovery.org/
Young People In Recovery Las Vegas: https://www.facebook.com/groups/yprlasvegasnv
Virtue Recovery Center: https://lasvegas.virtuerecoverycenter.com/
Summary
Teresa Sands shares her profound journey through childhoodtrauma, substance use, and her path to recovery. This episode offers deepinsights into the complexities of addiction, mental health, and resilience.Teresa Sands shares her inspiring journey through trauma, addiction, andrecovery, highlighting her work in harm reduction, advocacy, and communityprograms like Narcan at Night and YPR. This episode offers valuable insightsinto overcoming adversity, building resilience, and making a difference in therecovery space.
Key Topics
Childhood trauma and family dynamics
Substance use and addiction patterns
Mental health and prolonged grief disorder
Recovery strategies and resilience
Impact of relationships and trauma on addiction Trauma andaddiction recovery
Harm reduction and overdose prevention
Community programs like Narcan at Night and YPR
Personal growth and resilience in recovery
Advocacy and education in mental health and substance use
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Learn more about Simon Dyson person in long term Recoveryand author of You've already won and Billy's Farm of Hopes and Dreams: https://billysfarmsofhope.org/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Dash Poem: https://williamwimberly.com/images/TheDashPoem.pdf
Best piece of Recovery advice: You are worthy
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Simon:
Gladiator Theme Song https://youtu.be/mQQKZ5cgybU?si=trZVPWPqbcIEyW8e
Your Journey Your Story Munger 2025 by Wouter van den Heever- https://youtu.be/PrzfaVt4zkI?si=ByEe_hBNV8YFGUuB
Summary
Simon Dyson shares his powerful journey from addiction topurpose, highlighting the importance of faith, community, and giving back. Hisstory illustrates how resilience and love can transform lives and inspireothers.
Key Topics
· The insidious nature of alcohol and its impact
· The significance of a sober date and milestones
· The role of faith and prayer in recovery
· The importance of community and giving back
· The story of Billy’s Farm and its mission
· The lessons learned from endurance races andresilience
· The power of storytelling and vulnerability
· The concept of living your dash and embracingthe present
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Author and person in long term Recovery JuddMidlam and his book Syncope: https://cjmidlam.com/
Recovery literature (quit-llit) Recommendation: The Bible
Best piece of Recovery advice: Just don't drink
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Judd: Beautiful Day by U2 -https://youtu.be/co6WMzDOh1o?si=nxaYHnhsaOyZS8nq
Summary
Judd Midlam shares his inspiring journey from long-termalcohol dependence to sobriety, highlighting the power of storytelling,creativity, and community support in recovery. Discover how his experiences andnovel 'Syncope' shed light on the complex realities of addiction and healing.In this episode, Judd Midlam shares his inspiring journey of sobriety, thechallenges of addiction, and the profound insights from his novel 'Syncope'that explores the human experience of recovery. Discover how connection, purpose,and understanding neurodivergence play vital roles in healing.
Key Topics
- The role of storytelling and creativity in recovery
- The impact of social acceptance of alcohol
- The biological and behavioral aspects of addiction
- The importance of community and sharing stories
- The journey of self-discovery and overcoming shame The decision to stay sober as a daily commitment
- The role of community and higher power in recovery
- Neurodivergence and its connection to addiction
- The importance of purpose and service in healing
- The impact of writing and creativity in recovery
- The potential of science and medication in treating addiction
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Ezra Vancil’s work and his new double albumand book Morning & Midnight:
https://ezravancil.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: AA Big Book -https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: If you want self-esteem, doestimable acts
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Ezra: Song before I go byEzra Vancil -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_1fl3Qebu8
Summary
Ezra V shares his harrowing journey through addiction, thepivotal moment of surrender on Valentine's Day 2013, and his ongoing commitmentto recovery, creativity, and service. This episode offers deep insights intothe power of community, humility, and the transformative nature of sobriety.Ezra V shares his powerful journey through recovery, highlighting theimportance of surrender, working the steps, and building a relationship with ahigher power. Discover how he transformed his life, repaired relationships, andfound purpose through faith, action, and creativity.
Key Topics
Ezra's early life and musical career
First encounter with alcohol at age 13
The impact of moving frequently during childhood
The role of substances in fitting in and identity
Valentine's Day 2013: The moment of surrender
The importance of community and service in recovery
The myth of creativity being hindered by sobriety
Ezra's journey through mental health and legal issues
The significance of the 12-step program as a blueprint forlife
Ezra's current life as a musician, author, and businessowner The importance of surrender and acceptance in recovery
Working the steps in order with a sponsor
Developing a personal relationship with a higher power
The role of creativity and music in healing
Rebuilding relationships and making amends
Overcoming resentment and forgiving oneself and others
The significance of action and doing the next right thing
Living a life of purpose and service in recovery
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Ryan- Ourprotectordevelopment.com
Book recommendation: The Bible
Best advice: "When I pray coincidences happen. When Idon't, they don't"
Song recommendation: Eye of the Tiger by Survivor - https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4
Summary
In this episode, Ryan Reichert shares his inspiring journeyof recovery from addiction, the importance of daily routines, faith, andservice, and how he is giving back to his community through his nonprofit andpersonal stories. Ryan Reichert shares his powerful journey from a life ofmaterialism and addiction to sobriety, faith, and purpose. This episodeexplores the importance of faith, service, and personal transformation,offering hope to those facing similar struggles.
Key topics
Ryan Reichert's personal recovery story
The role of faith and spirituality in healing
Daily routines and habits for sobriety
The importance of service and community involvement
The impact of faith-based resources and support RyanReichert's personal story of addiction and recovery
The role of faith and spirituality in healing
The importance of service and giving back
Building a new life after addiction and divorce
The impact of community and support systems
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about David Dean Haskell - https://www.daviddeanehaskell.com/
CODA Book - https://coda.org/purchase/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice:
Song that symbolizes Recovery to David - Rise by Calum Scott- https://youtu.be/EaCHGqyD45E?si=reOEYxfS4PZG6lje
Summary
In this episode, David Deane Haskell shares his journeythrough addiction, recovery, and healing from trauma, emphasizing theimportance of inner child work, spiritual growth, and community support.Discover insights into overcoming codependency, mental health challenges, andfinding peace of mind. In this episode, David Deane Haskell shares his journeythrough recovery, exploring the impact of honesty, community, and spiritualpractices. He discusses his work with Coda, the importance of relationships,and his new book 'Wounded Angels,' offering valuable lessons for those on therecovery path.
Key Topics
- Addiction and recovery journey
- Impact of childhood trauma and loss
- Inner child work and healing
- Role of spirituality and higher power
- Importance of community and service in recovery
- Mental health challenges including ADHD and bipolar
- Relationship with food and substances
- Spiritual awakening and letting go
- Family of origin and its influence
- Tools and practices for maintaining sobriety The role of honesty in recovery
- How community supports healing
- The impact of spiritual practices on well-being
- David's experience with Coda and other programs
- Insights from the book Wounded Angels
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Elli : cikovicenterprises@gmail.com
Recovery literature Recommendations:
Not That Kind of Girl: A Young Woman Tells You What She's"Learned" by Lena Dunham - https://a.co/d/0daESHmp
Down the Drain by Julia Fox - https://a.co/d/0d95IHEC
The Alchemist: A Fable About Following Your Dream by PauloCoelho - https://a.co/d/06F93OjO
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "It's OK to have aproblem! Addiction is not your fault, it's your responsibility!"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Elli:
Bodies W/Lyrics by Jazmine Sullivan - https://youtu.be/SQ8f3RzhWsk?si=-1bOl28KWhfnU3hq
She Talks To Angels by The Black Crowes - https://youtu.be/H58gMiQQRm0?si=eCJv4_dRCqn18IDs
Elli's Book- The Diary of a Twenty-Five-Year-Old Alcoholic:Cikovic, Elli Rose: 9798218820817: Amazon.com: Books
Summary
In this candid conversation, Ellie Rose Sikovic shares herjourney of recovery from alcohol and drug addiction, the spiritual insightsgained along the way, and her plans to serve the recovery community throughwriting and advocacy. Discover how personal trauma, spiritual awakening, andcommunity support can transform lives. In this candid conversation, Elli Roseshares her journey of sobriety, the challenges of addiction, and thetransformative power of self-awareness and discipline. Discover insights on quittingweed, the importance of routines, and the role of music and literature inrecovery.
Key Topics
Recovery from addiction and trauma
Spiritual awakening and its role in sobriety
Serving the recovery community through writing and advocacyQuitting weed and alcohol
The importance of routines in recovery
The impact of music and literature on healing
Find Your People by Drew Holcomb -https://youtu.be/yDVl3WHoymI?si=Slj2JH1CxL7Ax7if
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Burk Jackson Person in long term recovery and founder of TheRecovery Bridge App. https://recoverybridge.app/
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Summary
Burke Jackson shares his inspiring journey through addictionand recovery, highlighting the importance of connection, the role ofspirituality, and the innovative Recovery Bridge app designed to support thosein recovery. In this inspiring interview, Burke Jackson shares his journey ofrecovery, the importance of connection, and how his innovative Recovery Bridgeapp is lowering barriers to access support. Discover practical insights,personal stories, and resources to enhance your recovery path.
Key topics
- The role of connection in recovery
- Burke Jackson's personal journey and milestones
- Development and impact of the Recovery Bridge app The role of connection in recovery
- How Recovery Bridge facilitates support
- Personal stories of sobriety and resilience
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Twelve Stepsand Twelve Traditions Book - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Best piece of Recovery advice: We don't have to do it alone
Find Your People by Drew Holcomb - https://youtu.be/yDVl3WHoymI?si=Slj2JH1CxL7Ax7if
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist”availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Reach out to Rachel:
linktr.ee/realtalkwithrachie
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Let ThemTheory: A Life-Changing Tool That Millions of People Can't Stop Talking About byMel Robbins & Sawyer Robbins
Best pieces of Recovery Advice:
Practice Discipline and Establish Non-Negotiables
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Rachel: Juicy by TheNotorious B.I.G. - https://youtu.be/_JZom_gVfuw
Summary
Rachel Sereni shares her inspiring journey of recovery fromaddiction, the challenges she faced, and the strategies that helped her rebuildher life. This episode offers valuable insights into mental health, sobriety,and the power of community.
Key topics
Rachel's early substance use and childhood trauma
The importance of community and support in recovery
Mental health challenges including ADHD and grief
Strategies for maintaining sobriety and building a new life
The role of routine, discipline, and self-care in recovery
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Lindsay:lindsay@soulsoldierspeaks.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: A GraceDisguised Revised and Expanded: How the Soul Grows through Loss - https://a.co/d/05Ivg6m8
Best piece of Recovery advice: "We don't fight forvictory, we fight from victory."
Song that symbolizes recovery: 21 Years by TobyMac - https://youtu.be/eSV-pRGbg4k?si=feiibeDmFQZfGTeH
Resources:
exvictoria.com
Chris Herren Speaking on His Addiction Recovery Story |PeaceLove - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_18V7klRY8
All her books, shows, and podcast are on the website
soulsoldier network.com/lindsaytaylor
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Greg Downs person in long term recovery, author, andfinancial coach:
https://www.cpfinancialcoaching.com/
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
The Power of Now - https://a.co/d/05rjIRA0
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Practice the principles inall our affairs
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Greg: Not afraid by Eminem- https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s?si=I2uGhM8VVYCOoEeS
In this episode, Greg Downs — a long-term recovery advocateand financial planner — explores how applying 12-step principles to personalfinance can lead to emotional and financial sobriety. His unique approach isdesigned to help people break free from the cycle of financial stress just asrecovery helps free from addiction.
In this episode:
Greg’s personal story of addiction, loss, and recovery,including the pivotal jail experience that transformed his life
How the emotional patterns of addiction mirror those infinancial struggles — guilt, denial, avoidance
The concept of "financial sobriety" — using12-step tools to manage money with integrity and purpose
The parallels between relapse in addiction and financialrelapse — how stress and emotion can trigger old patterns
Practical steps: admitting control issues, making inventory,restoring trust, aligning spending with values
How community, connection, and service reinforce recoveryand financial health
The process of writing a book that applies 12-step recoveryprinciples to personal finance, and its potential impact
Notable quote: “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety —it’s connection.”
This episode challenges us to reframe our relationship withmoney through the lens of recovery, emphasizing emotional honesty, community,and purpose as essential to lasting change.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact: tara@voicestovictories.com
Book recommendation: The Bible
Best advice: "There is so much hope for you. And if youdon't have hope in yourself yet, there's so many of us that do have hope foryou and don't give up."
Song that symbolizes recovery: I’m Not Okay by CitizenSoldier - https://youtu.be/mTtucss80tc?si=zX_roy7eWvPP7p_P
Resources: voicestovictories.com
Summary
Tara Peterson shares her inspiring journey of recovery fromaddiction, highlighting the importance of faith, community, and self-awarenessin overcoming substance abuse. This episode offers valuable insights into thechallenges of addiction, the power of faith-based programs, and practical stepsfor those seeking sobriety. Tara Peterson shares her transformative recoveryjourney, emphasizing faith, gratitude, and the power of surrender. Discover howspiritual moments, community, and consistent practices can lead to lastingchange and peace.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: AA Big Book -https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best pieces of Recovery advice:
Shut up listen
Stop Lying to yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mike: Not Afraid by Eminem- https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s
Summary:
This episode delves into the raw truth of recovery as MikeGlover shares his profound journey from addiction on Chicago’s South Side tonearly five years of sobriety. We explore what it really takes to stay sober,the power of peer support, and how confronting fears and risks buildsresilience. Mike’s honest reflections offer a blueprint for anyone navigatingtheir own recovery path or supporting loved ones in that process.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Barbara: barb@togetheraz.com
Book recommendation: Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best Advice: "Don't believe everything that youthink."
Resources: Together AZ - https://togetheraz.com/
Summary
Barbara Brown shares her inspiring journey from alcoholaddiction to long-term sobriety, her involvement in recovery communities, andher efforts to support others through a recovery newspaper and annual golftournament.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Episode 500: Recovery Roll Call
This special milestone episode features heartfelt messagesfrom the recovery community, sharing pivotal moments, lessons learned, and theongoing journey of healing. It’s a testament to the power of connection,community, and resilience.
This episode reminds us that recovery is ongoing, deeplypersonal, and uniquely accessible — no matter where you’re starting from.Celebrate your journey, honor your community, and keep moving forward, becauseyour next breakthrough could be just around the corner.
In this episode:
The significance of embracing change and impermanence inrecovery and life
How surrender opens doors to transformation and growth
The role of community and authentic relationships insustaining recovery
Stories of overcoming trauma, addiction, and loss throughfaith and perseverance
Practical insights on recognizing and acting on moments ofclarity
The importance of small acts of service and humility inrecovery
The potential of innovative approaches likepsychedelic-assisted recovery
The myth of rock bottom and the idea that recovery can startanytime we choose
Resources & Links:
Books by Darren Littlejohn - https://www.compassionaterecovery.us/
Unboxed Wellness - Recovery Coaching - https://unboxedwellness.com/
The DOW of Our Understanding Podcast - https://taorecovery.libsyn.com/
North Star Retreats - https://northstarretreats.org/
Daryl Dittmer books - https://www.daryldittmer.com/
Kayos To Clarity - https://www.facebook.com/Chaseisover/
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Bill- billstauffer@rcn.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Slaying the Dragon: The History of Addiction Treatment andRecovery in America by William White - https://archive.org/details/slayingdragonhis00whit
Pathways from the Culture of Addiction to the Culture ofRecovery: A Travel Guide for Addiction Professionals by William White - https://archive.org/details/pathwaysfromcult0000whit
Best piece of Recovery advice- Keep working on yourself
Resources: PRO.A – PA Statewide Recovery Community - https://pro-a.org/
Recovery Review – a community of recovery-oriented experts -https://www.billstauffer.net/recoveryreview-articles
Papers | William White Library - https://chestnut.org/li/william-white-library/papers
Recovery, Work, and Reflections - https://www.billstauffer.net/
Song that symbolizes recovery: Cover Me Up by Jason Isbell -https://youtu.be/S-s3vuXopS4?si=2Gl8RdrVAp4i--Nh
Summary
William Stauffer shares his inspiring journey from earlydrug use to long-term recovery and his extensive work in the recoverycommunity. Discover insights into addiction, the history of recovery advocacy,and how community involvement can transform lives. William Stauffer discussesthe importance of integrity, responsibility, and community in recovery,addressing challenges like unethical practices and systemic flaws. He sharesinsights on building a culture of recovery, the significance of self-care, and thepower of collective action to improve the future of addiction treatment.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Frank- frank.mcevoy@gmail.com
Standup: https://youtu.be/moz8MqoKZOc?si=hEtH9BS72DumHO4w
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Big Book ofAlcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best Advice- what we do in the program is don't drink and goto meetings and the rest of our lives are none of our business.
Song that symbolizes recovery: Morning Glow by Pippen - https://youtu.be/NznKQtQaFfQ
Summary
Join us as Frank M shares his inspiring journey of recovery,service, and personal growth. Discover how online meetings, community service,and spiritual insights shape a meaningful life in sobriety. Frank M shares hisinspiring journey of recovery, the importance of community, and practicalinsights into maintaining sobriety. This episode offers valuable lessons onletting go, the power of honesty, and the transformative effect of service andself-awareness.
Key frameworks
The Serenity Prayer
The Thinking's Already Been Done
Action items
Attend daily meetings and stay connected with sponsors andpeers
Practice honesty and rawness in sharing your story
Let go of the need to control everything and trust theprocess
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Recovery is The Most Human Journey with Adam Nimoy
Learn more about Adam Nimoy and The Most Human:
Website - https://adamnimoy.com
Twitter - https://twitter.com/AdamNimoy
The Most Human: Reconciling with My Father, Leonard Nimoy - https://a.co/d/0bCxpCVm
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
The Tora
Sacred Housekeeping: A Spiritual Memoir - https://a.co/d/0iMtLg69
Best piece of Recovery advice: Hold On
Song that symbolizes recovery to Adam: Get Together by TheYoungbloods - https://youtu.be/7xGxQXmu7Os?si=CM8gXh9rjHFinZQ4
Summary
In this inspiring interview, Adam Nimoy shares his journeythrough recovery, the transformative power of 12-step programs, and theprofound reconnection with his father. Discover practical insights on living ameaningful, connected life and the importance of service, forgiveness, anddaily routines in recovery.
Key topics
The role of 12-step programs in recovery
Reconciliation with family and forgiveness
Daily routines and small acts of service in sobriety
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Learn more about Kenny Stoddart person in long term recoveryfounder of Iron Mind Advisors: https://www.ironmindadvisors.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Ask for help
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kenny: My Cross by JellyRoll - https://youtu.be/GQHYXBwKnpk?si=ymnpPoNhamVPtyh5
Takeaways
Alcohol was Kenny's drug of choice, highlighting its socialacceptance and danger.
Kenny's sober date is 11-7-24, marking a significant turningpoint in his life.
Sobriety has brought clarity, gratitude, and a sense ofgrace to Kenny's life.
Kenny emphasizes the importance of sharing recovery storiesto help others.
He serves the recovery community through social media andpublic speaking.
Kenny believes in the power of vulnerability and honesty inrecovery.
He reflects on the trauma of being expelled from high schooland its impact on his life.
Kenny discusses the addictive nature of chasing success andvalidation.
He emphasizes the importance of taking off the 'cape' ofhigh achievement in recovery.
Kenny encourages others to take the first step towardsrecovery, emphasizing that it's never too late. Recovery has many definitionsand can take many forms.
Community plays a crucial role in the recovery process.
Vulnerability is a strength that fosters connection andsupport.
Spirituality and faith can be foundational in recovery.
The 'Iron Mind' mentality helps in overcoming challenges.
Forgiveness and self-compassion are essential for healing.
Sobriety can lead to a more fulfilling and present life.
Asking for help is a sign of true strength.
Music can be a powerful symbol of recovery andtransformation.
Every recovery journey is unique and beautiful.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Kenny Stoddartshares his journey of recovery from alcoholism, emphasizing the importance ofvulnerability, community support, and the transformative power of sobriety. Hediscusses the impact of his past experiences, including being expelled fromhigh school, and how they shaped his path towards addiction and eventualrecovery. Kenny highlights the significance of serving the recovery communitythrough social media and public speaking, advocating for open conversationsabout addiction and mental health. He reflects on the challenges of chasingsuccess and validation, and how recovery has allowed him to redefine hisidentity and purpose in life. In this conversation, Kenny Stoddart shares hisjourney of recovery, emphasizing the importance of community, spirituality, andself-compassion. He discusses the challenges and successes he has faced,including the transformative power of vulnerability and the 'Iron Mind'mentality that has helped him overcome adversity. Kenny highlights thesignificance of asking for help and the role of music in his recovery journey,ultimately inspiring others to embrace their own paths to healing.
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Learn more about Rock Bottom with Ryan: https://linktr.ee/rockbottomwithryan?utm_source=linktree_profile_share
Resources and how to Contact Jeremy:
Unhooked Academy: https://www.unhookedacademy.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremylipkowitz/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyLipkowitz
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Amazon.com: Happiness:A Guide to Developing Life's Most Important Skill - https://a.co/d/08Mlk7Ul
Best piece of Recovery advice: Progress over perfection
Songs that symbolize recovery to Jeremy:
Gracious by Ben Howard - https://youtu.be/1s2WRAXftGI
Keep Your Head Up by Ben Howard - https://youtu.be/ADP65wbBUpc
In this episode, Jeremy shares the depth of his journeyovercoming porn addiction, the neuroscience behind craving, and practicalstrategies rooted in mindfulness and Buddhist philosophy. If you're seekinginsight into how addiction rewires the mind and how to reclaim your life withintegrity, this conversation offers clarity and actionable wisdom.
Key Topics
Jeremy’s personal experience with porn and meth addiction,including defining moments that inspired change
The neurological science of addiction, neuroplasticity, andthe craving for novelty
How mindfulness and meditation serve as powerful tools forrecovery and emotional regulation
The importance of identity reprogramming and shiftingbeliefs about oneself
Practical routines for daily discipline, includingtechnology boundaries
The role of community, vulnerability, and living inintegrity as essential recovery pillars
The impact of societal triggers, AI advances, and thenormalization of porn
Strategies for dealing with shame, relapse, and buildingresilience
The significance of living a life aligned with purpose andethical values
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Contact James: wherepurposeisfound@gmail.com or call himdirectly at 651-272-6148
Recovery literature (quit-lit) Recommendation: Ephesians6:10-18
Best Advice: "Always remember to put God first in yourlife."
Songs that symbolize recovery:
Resurrecting | Official Lyric Video | Elevation Worship - https://youtu.be/aHGFNUlEZ8M?si=b1EXavC7jSMzggVv
"Stand Up" by Nicky Gracious - https://youtu.be/fZfeciRvxZ8?si=S6mLEqPJDLZipZze
Resources: Against the Odds Recovery and Reentry - https://atoministries.org/
Where Purpose Is Found - https://wherepurposeisfound.com/
Minnesota Hope Dealerz Organization - https://www.minnesotahopedealerz.org/
In this episode, James Cowan Jr. shares his powerful journeyfrom childhood trauma, addiction, and incarceration to founding a nonprofitdedicated to outreach, recovery, and faith-based healing. His story underscoresthe importance of community, spiritual resilience, and persistence in recovery.
We discuss:
- The impact of early childhood abuse and how faith helped in healing
- The role of brothers and sisters in recovery and the significance of having a support network
- Starting and growing a nonprofit focused on street outreach, mental health, and homelessness
- Practical steps in maintaining recovery, including prayer, service, and step work
- The importance of forgiveness, humility, and community in overcoming shame
- How faith and Jesus’s love are central to lasting change
- Managing relapse and turning setbacks into opportunities for growth
- The power of testimonies and shared stories to save lives
- Strategies for walking alongside those still struggling
- Practical advice for those feeling lost or overwhelmed in recovery
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact John: John@relevantrecovery.org
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: BreathingUnder Water: Spirituality And The Twelve Steps - https://a.co/d/04c0D2qj
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Trunk to Tail"
Resources:
https://www.relevantrecovery.org/
https://theretreat.org/programs/
https://www.hazelden.org/store/welcome
https://www.marrch.org/
Media story on Recovery Ranch: https://thephoenixspirit.com/2024/09/founder-envisions-minnesotas-first-recovery-ranch/
https://www.relevantrecovery.org/recovery-ranch/
Song that symbolizes recovery: Pentatonix - AmazingGrace (My Chains Are Gone) - https://youtu.be/Obp-9BEZe1c?si=xe_STqS_S9m5YvO8
Takeaways
John Magnuson shares his journey of recovery from alcoholaddiction.
Serving the recovery community starts with maintainingpersonal sobriety.
Recovery means finding love, happiness, and a sense ofpurpose.
Childhood experiences shaped John's understanding ofaddiction.
Alcohol was a significant part of John's early life and ledto serious consequences.
Navigating early adulthood involved balancing politicalaspirations and addiction.
A turning point in John's life led to a deeper understandingof spirituality in recovery.
Failure in business prompted a reevaluation of prioritiesand personal growth.
Community support is crucial in the recovery process.
Embracing change and new directions can lead to unexpectedopportunities. Personalizing recovery pathways is crucial for individualsuccess.
Authenticity in communication fosters connection andunderstanding.
Humility allows for growth and acceptance in recovery.
Peer support has evolved but still needs to adapt to currentneeds.
Coaching families can lead to profound transformations inrecovery.
Creating a supportive environment is essential for healing.
Daily routines play a significant role in sustainablerecovery.
Literature can provide valuable insights and guidance inrecovery.
Music serves as a powerful tool for healing and expression.
Trusting the process and remaining open to change is vital.
Summary
In this conversation, John Magnuson shares his journey ofrecovery from alcohol addiction, emphasizing the importance of serving therecovery community, the evolution of his understanding of recovery, and therole of spirituality in his life. He reflects on his childhood, earlyexperiences with alcohol, and the turning points that led him to embrace a newdirection in life. John discusses the significance of community support, thelessons learned from failure, and the power of personal stories in recovery. Healso addresses the complexities of privilege and the language used in therecovery community, ultimately highlighting the transformative power ofrecovery and personal growth. In this conversation, John Magnuson shares hisinsights on the importance of personalizing recovery pathways, the role ofauthenticity and humility in communication, and the evolution of peer support.He discusses his journey into coaching and the vision behind Relevant Recovery,emphasizing the significance of creating a supportive environment for familiesin recovery. John also highlights the healing power of music and the importanceof daily routines in maintaining recovery. His experiences reflect a deepunderstanding of the spiritual aspects of recovery and the need for communitysupport.
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Contact Dana: contact@restoreofada.com
Book recommendation: The Bible
Best Advice: "Live every day until the day youdie."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Amazing Grace
Resources: Restore of Ada - https://restoreofada.com/
Biofeedback and Counseling, Inc - https://www.biofeedbackada.com/
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Jason welcomesDana Hargus, a seasoned mental health therapist with over 25 years ofexperience. Dana shares her journey into the recovery community, emphasizingher role in helping individuals who have recently completed rehab. Shediscusses the importance of supporting clients as they navigate thecomplexities of rebuilding their lives after addiction, highlighting thechallenges they face even after achieving sobriety. Dana's passion for her workshines through as she describes the rewarding experience of witnessing clientsreestablish relationships and regain control over their lives.
Dana also introduces her innovative approach to therapy,which includes biofeedback and neurofeedback techniques. She explains how thesemethods help clients understand and regulate their brain functions, ultimatelyleading to improved mental health outcomes. Throughout the conversation, Danaemphasizes the importance of hope and the belief that recovery is a journeythat requires ongoing effort and support. Her insights into the limitations oftraditional treatment models and the potential of her methods provide a freshperspective on mental health and recovery.
Takeaways
"Recovery is being able to find your bestlife despite where you've been."
"The reason people do addictive things isto meet a need they can't find another way to meet."
"There is always hope. You didn't get herein one day and you won't get out of here in one day, but do not give up."
"If we change things about our body, wechange things about our brain over the long haul."
"You have to start adding stuff because yougot here because of what was added to the left side of thisteeter-totter."
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Living Sober- https://www.aa.org/living-sober-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: We don’t have to takeourselves so seriously all the time
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Marie:
Somewhere Over the Rainbow - https://youtu.be/PSZxmZmBfnU
Takeaways
- Marie has been sober since September 6, 1983, marking over 42 years of recovery.
- She emphasizes the importance of community and service in recovery.
- Marie believes in keeping recovery simple and accessible.
- Literature, especially 'Living Sober', has been crucial in her recovery journey.
- She highlights the significance of understanding family dynamics in recovery.
- Marie advocates for kindness and non-judgment in helping others.
- She stresses the importance of self-care and health in recovery.
- Marie shares her experience of coping with grief after losing her son.
- Humor and lightness are essential in navigating recovery challenges.
- Marie encourages others to take what works for them and leave the rest.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Marie Elden sharesher inspiring journey of recovery, which began on September 6, 1983. With over42 years of sobriety, Marie emphasizes the importance of community, service,and literature in the recovery process. She discusses her early life, thecultural transition to the United States, and the impact of alcoholism on herfamily dynamics. Marie highlights the significance of keeping recovery simple,the role of humor in navigating challenges, and the importance of self-care.Through her experiences, she offers valuable insights on coping with grief, theimportance of kindness, and the need for non-judgment in helping others.Marie's story is a testament to resilience and the power of recovery.
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Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Diana: Anything by Melody Beatie - https://www.melodybeattie.com/books/
Chris: Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best pieces of Recovery advice:
Chris - Hit your knees and say please and thank you
Diana - Do you want to be happy or do you want to be right, W.A.I.T- Why Am I Talking?
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Diana - That Wasn't Me by Brandi Carlisle - https://youtu.be/cNmo8I4dEQE?si=BvUxQJkB897H3lN1
Chris - Hurt by Johnny Cash - https://youtu.be/8AHCfZTRGiI?si=TQnUr1IYK6iIK5iN
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Chris andDiana Albrecht share their personal recovery journeys, discussing theimportance of community, family dynamics, and the impact of trauma onaddiction. They delve into the significance of the 311 retreat, atransformative experience designed to foster connection and healing amongindividuals in recovery. The conversation highlights the essence of recovery,the role of spirituality, and the tools necessary for maintaining sobriety.Chris and Diana also provide insights into their family backgrounds and howthese experiences shaped their paths to recovery, emphasizing the need forself-compassion and understanding in the healing process.
Takeaways
Recovery is about experiencing a sense of peace, notmaterial gains.
Connection is the antidote to addiction and isolation is atrauma response.
The 311 retreat offers a unique experience for individualsin recovery.
Community plays a crucial role in the recovery process.
Family dynamics can significantly impact one's recoveryjourney.
Understanding trauma is essential for sustainable recovery.
Spiritual solutions are vital for filling the void left byaddiction.
The program provides tools for better communication andrelationships.
Self-compassion is necessary for healing and growth.
Recovery is a continuous journey that requires ongoingeffort and support.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Reach out to Tad Hopp Sober Coach Podcaster and YouTubeCreator Person in Long Recovery:
https://www.instagram.com/magicaltadrigal/
What That Drink Cost Me:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-that-drink-cost-me/id1829187266
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget by Sara Hepola- https://a.co/d/01aMU1qE
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Don't quit until the miraclehappens!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Tadd:
Fight Song by Rachel Platten - https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc?si=48NquIBaU6mEeQsz
Takeaways
- Tad Hopp has over eight years of sobriety.
- He serves the recovery community as a sober coach and podcaster.
- His podcast, 'What That Drink Cost Me,' discusses the impact of alcohol.
- Community and connection are vital for recovery.
- Tad's Thanksgiving incident was a turning point in his sobriety journey.
- He emphasizes the importance of vulnerability in recovery.
- Tad found running as a healthy outlet in sobriety.
- He met his husband through a sober softball league.
- Forgiveness of past actions is a work in progress for Tad.
- Tad's story highlights the transformative power of recovery.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Tad Hopp shares hisjourney of recovery from alcohol addiction, highlighting the importance ofcommunity, vulnerability, and personal growth. With over eight years ofsobriety, Tad discusses the pivotal moments that led him to seek help,including a Thanksgiving incident that served as a wake-up call. He emphasizesthe role of connection in recovery, the challenges he faced, and the successeshe has achieved, including finding love and launching a recovery podcast. Tad'sstory is a testament to the transformative power of sobriety and the importanceof sharing one's journey to inspire others.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Person in Long Term Recovery, Mother Wifeand author Emily Redondo:
https://www.emilyredondoauthor.com/
Aces quiz: https://compassionprisonproject.org/take-the-ace-quiz/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best Pieces of Recovery Advice:
Name it, claim it, and dump it!
Live and let live
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Emily:
Telepath by Manchester Orchestra - https://youtu.be/-R4gSeY0XtY?si=WO1ZgAl_dm9D5RK1
This Train Don't Stop There Anymore by Elton John - https://youtu.be/SsuHAn54wPs
Takeaways
Emily Redondo shares her journey through addiction andrecovery.
Alcohol was Emily's substance of choice, leading tosignificant struggles.
She emphasizes the importance of serving the recoverycommunity.
Recovery is a continuous process, not a destination.
Individual experiences in recovery can vary greatly.
Growing up in a family with addiction shaped Emily'sperspective.
Moving to Texas was a significant culture shock for Emily.
Her first experiences with alcohol were tied to feelings ofinadequacy.
Identifying as an alcoholic was a pivotal moment for Emily.
The complexity of addiction includes physical dependence andemotional struggles. Relapse often begins before the first drink.
Hindsight can distort our understanding of past actions.
Sobriety alone does not solve underlying issues.
Therapy is crucial for understanding trauma.
Feelings can be managed without resorting to substances.
Creativity can be a powerful outlet in recovery.
Authenticity in sharing experiences fosters connection.
Forgiveness is essential for personal growth.
Resentments can weigh heavily on recovery.
Music can symbolize and support the recovery journey.
Summary
In this episode, Emily Redondo shares her profound journeythrough addiction and recovery, detailing her experiences with alcohol, theimpact of her upbringing in a family with addiction, and her path to sobriety.She emphasizes the importance of community support, the complexities ofrecovery, and the ongoing nature of healing. Emily's story is a testament toresilience and the power of personal growth in the face of adversity. In thisconversation, Emily Redondo shares her profound journey through addiction,relapse, and recovery. She discusses the complexities of relapse, theimportance of understanding trauma, and the necessity of therapy in therecovery process. Emily emphasizes the significance of self-discovery,creativity, and authentic conversations in healing. She also reflects on hermemoir, 'Wife, Mother, Drunk,' and the insights it offers into the life of anaddict. The discussion culminates in the exploration of forgiveness and therole of music in recovery, highlighting the emotional landscape of addictionand the path to healing.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Colette Baron-Reid Expert in the field ofpersonal transformation Author published in 27 language 19 oracle card decksand 8 books the newest is The Art of Manifesting:
https://www.colettebaronreid.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Twenty Four Hours a Day - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/1096?Twenty-Four-Hours-a-Day-Hardcover-24-Hours
Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: You only have to stay sober today
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Colette: Gold Dust Woman byFleetwood Mac - https://youtu.be/EFUAI_tzfgU
Takeaways:
Embracing our gifts and talents is crucial in recovery.
Connection to a higher power fosters authenticrelationships.
Desperation can be a gift that leads to willingness.
Recovery is about living in the present moment.
The intersection of science and spirituality enhancesunderstanding of recovery.
Action is essential in manifesting change in our lives.
We broadcast a frequency that attracts similar energies.
Daily practices keep us aligned with our recovery goals.
Listening to our higher power guides our actions.
Community support is vital for sustained recovery.
Summary:
In this conversation, Colette Baron-Reid shares her profoundjourney of recovery, emphasizing the importance of transformation, community,and the role of a higher power. She reflects on her 40 years of sobriety, thesignificance of the 12 steps, and how creativity and manifestation have playedcrucial roles in her healing process. Colette discusses the science behindconsciousness and how it influences our experiences in recovery, encouragingothers to embrace their creativity and align with their true selves. In thisengaging conversation, Colette Baron-Reid and the host explore the profoundthemes of recovery, spirituality, and personal growth. They discuss theimportance of embracing one's gifts and talents in recovery, the power ofconnection with a higher power, and the transformative nature of desperation.The dialogue delves into the intersection of science and spirituality,emphasizing the role of action in manifesting change and the significance ofdaily recovery practices. The speakers share personal anecdotes and insights,highlighting the importance of community and the ongoing journey ofself-discovery in recovery.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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More about Janelle Martin
Doctor of functional medicine, Brain healer Licensedcounselor and founder of The Mind Connection a holistic mental health practicebased in Houston, Texas, where she helps clients heal from trauma, addiction,and emotional dysregulation using an integrative mind-body approach: https://mindconnection.org/
Janelle’s Book: Losing Her, Finding Us: A Mother's Fight, ADaughter's Journey and the Road to Recovery - https://a.co/d/7r17SHv
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
High Achiever: The Incredible True Story of One Addict'sDouble Life by Tiffany Jenkins - https://a.co/d/75xRh9t
Beyond the Yellow Brick Road: Our Children and Drugs by BobMeehan - https://a.co/d/aP86wue
Best piece of Recovery advice: Let it go
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Janelle:
My Story by Big Daddy Weave - https://youtu.be/1TKAN-nAsu8?si=ptrgvKQfllYiSSrs
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Janelle Martinshares her profound journey through the challenges of parenting a child withaddiction. She emphasizes the importance of family recovery, the need forunconditional love, and the significance of long-term support systems. Janellediscusses her experiences with treatment, the impact of trauma, and the healingpower of connection. She also highlights her holistic approach to mental healththrough her practice, The Mind Connection, and the importance of ongoingrecovery practices.
Takeaways
- Recovery is best when families recover together.
- The whole family gets sick due to addiction.
- Parent meetings provide a lifeline for families.
- Letting go is crucial for parents of addicted children.
- Long-term recovery is essential for lasting change.
- Unconditional love can be found in recovery communities.
- Trauma plays a significant role in addiction.
- Writing a book helped bridge the gap between perspectives.
- Holistic healing can support brain health in recovery.
- Daily practices are vital for maintaining recovery.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Bo: https://www.facebook.com/bo.grossnickle.2025
Recovery literature (quit-lit) Recommendations:
Proverbs
The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee - https://a.co/d/hqlTDQm
Best piece of Recovery advice:
Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all yourheart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledgeHim, And He shall direct your paths.
Song that symbolizes recovery: Do it Again (Elevation Worship)- https://youtu.be/0B_lnQIITxU?si=KTvZlMkfwDd4JS9I
Resources: Brother Bo Music- YouTube
God Made Muzic - YouTube
Summary
In this conversation, the speaker shares a profound momentof despair while in jail, reflecting on the consequences of addiction and thehopelessness that ensued. However, amidst this darkness, a transformativeexperience occurs as the speaker hears a voice offering hope and a new purposein life, leading to a journey of recovery and faith.
Takeaways
The feeling of despair can lead to a turning point.
Addiction creates a sense of hopelessness and regret.
A moment of clarity can bring about profound change.
Faith can provide a new purpose in life.
Transformation often comes from surrendering control.
The journey of recovery is deeply personal.
Hope can emerge even in the darkest moments.
Living for a higher purpose can change one's life.
The impact of addiction is far-reaching and devastating.
Redemption is possible through faith and support.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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A Life Measured in SESSIONS: Sex, Fitness, andSelf-Destruction by author and expert in the history and culture of fitness CraigMaltese - https://a.co/d/gsaPKMB
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Unlimited Power : The New Science Of Personal Achievement byTony Robbins- https://a.co/d/270LVVp
Best piece of Recovery advice:
If you want to make something of yourself, make it happenwhere you are.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Craig:
Someone Belonging to Someone by the Bee Gees - https://youtu.be/WRAvVr-jpXw?si=Zy95g91rk362H66W
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Craig Maltese shareshis journey through addiction, focusing on the complexities of sex addictionand the role of fitness and movement in recovery. He discusses the importanceof personal stories in recovery, the challenges of navigating relationships,and the cultural attitudes towards sex and addiction. Craig emphasizes the needfor vulnerability and the evolution of personal relationships in sobriety,while also addressing the commercialization of the recovery industry and theimportance of defining healthy relationships. In this conversation, CraigMaltese shares his journey of self-discovery and recovery, emphasizing theimportance of choosing healthier options, understanding the evolution offitness, and the impact of time on personal growth. He discusses thesignificance of movement, yoga, and vulnerability in fostering connections andhealing relationships. Craig reflects on the challenges of navigating life, thepower of humility, and the ongoing journey of forgiveness and regret.Ultimately, he highlights the importance of being present and making the mostof each moment in life.
Takeaways
Craig Maltese discusses his journey through addiction andrecovery.
He emphasizes the importance of movement in recoveryprograms.
Recovery is a personal journey that varies for eachindividual.
Sharing personal stories can help others in their recovery.
Sex addiction is often misunderstood and stigmatized.
Childhood experiences can significantly influence addictionpatterns.
Fitness can serve as a healthy outlet for stress andemotions.
Navigating intimacy and relationships is a challenge inrecovery.
Vulnerability is key to forming meaningful connections.
The recovery industry faces challenges in addressing complexissues like sex addiction. Choosing healthier options can lead to better mentalhealth.
Fitness can evolve from selfish pursuits to holisticwellness.
Understanding the passage of time is crucial for personalgrowth.
Self-discovery is a continuous journey that requires effort.
Yoga can provide a deeper connection to one's body and mind.
Movement serves as an anchor for emotional stability.
Humility and vulnerability are powerful tools for healing.
Restoring relationships is often the greatest success inrecovery.
Daily practices like fasting and yoga can enhance wellness.
Forgiveness is a complex process that requiresself-reflection.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Mike Smith and The Gutter Gospel:
https://theguttergospel.com/home
Donate: https://theguttergospel.com/donate
Connect: Mike@theguttergospel.com
Aces Quiz: https://www.americanspcc.org/take-the-aces-quiz
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
The Life Recovery Bible - https://a.co/d/2Pwrngm
The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren - https://a.co/d/fb44JC6
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be vulnerable
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mike:
Love Walks In by Van Halen - https://youtu.be/jP4OUoze664?si=-MxEC6BfGFpeNrQo
Summary
In this conversation, Mike Smith shares his journey ofself-discovery, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's true desiresin life. He recounts a pivotal moment when he realized that what he trulywanted was acceptance, rather than material wealth or superficial achievements.
Takeaways
The importance of self-reflection in understanding desires.
Acceptance is a fundamental human need.
Material wealth does not equate to true happiness.
Listening to one's inner voice can lead to clarity.
Life's true desires often differ from societal expectations.
Moments of clarity can come unexpectedly.
Self-discovery is a continuous journey.
Traffic can serve as a metaphor for life's distractions.
Finding acceptance can be liberating.
True fulfillment comes from within.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Andrew Adams | High Impact Trainer Speaker and Coach: https://www.instagram.com/andr3wadams/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
The Narcotics Anonymous Step Working Guide - https://cwpascna.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/na_swg_12.pdf
Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender - David Hawkins
Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep going and have fun
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Andrew: Bigger Than by JustinJesso, Seeb - https://youtu.be/BHd1YZmWMsU?si=VcvlI66ztNYh02mt
Takeaways
- Recovery is a journey of learning to love yourself.
- Sharing your story helps others feel less alone.
- Vulnerability allows for deeper connections in recovery.
- Self-forgiveness is essential for healing.
- Emotional intelligence plays a key role in recovery.
- Generational trauma can impact addiction.
- Choosing the hard path leads to personal growth.
- Physical activity is vital for mental health in recovery.
- Spirituality can be a personal journey outside of traditional religion.
- Creating a supportive community is crucial for recovery.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Andrew Adams shareshis transformative journey through recovery, emphasizing the importance ofself-love, community, and emotional intelligence. He discusses the impact ofchildhood trauma on addiction, the significance of vulnerability in recovery,and the role of spirituality in healing. Andrew highlights the challenges ofself-forgiveness and the power of sharing one's story to inspire others. Healso explores various recovery pathways and the importance of physical activityand daily practices in sustaining recovery. The conversation culminates in adiscussion about the influence of music and literature in Andrew's recoveryjourney.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Andrew Kramer | Person in long term recovery
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Man's searchfor meaning - https://a.co/d/63SAIGB
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Extend yourself grace andforgiveness
More Than Meets The Eye by Testament - https://youtu.be/09rHDabBQfA?si=hMImOjjzoaU-72A5
Summary
In this conversation, Andrew Kramer shares his profoundjourney towards sobriety, highlighting a pivotal moment of desperation where hereached out to a higher power for help. He reflects on the dangerous mindset ofbeing an alcoholic who is aware yet indifferent to their condition, and how aheartfelt prayer led him to seek rehabilitation and ultimately change his life.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Michelle: michelleshaivitz@gmail.com
Book recommendations: The Big Book and Broken Is A Gift byDr. Michelle Shaivitz
here's that link https://a.co/d/exo0n4z
Best Advice: "Life is hard sometimes. You are notentitled to anything. Acceptance is the key to all our happiness. Be a goodperson."
Song that symbolizes recovery:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGAYNKDyIU&list=RDVzGAYNKDyIU&start_radio=1
Resources: https://womenforsobriety.org/
Summary
In this conversation, Michelle Shaivitz shares her personaljourney with alcoholism, detailing the progression of her addiction and thesecretive behaviors that accompanied it. She reflects on how her drinkinghabits evolved from casual to compulsive, highlighting the emotional strugglestied to her addiction and the impact on her relationships.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Lisa Katona Smith:
https://linktr.ee/Parallel_Recovery
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Braving theWilderness by Brenee Brown - https://a.co/d/0P4ZRKb
Best piece of Recovery advice: Make sure your heart and headstay connected.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Lisa: Landslide byFleetwood Mac - https://youtu.be/radHy4HhhNg
Takeaways
Recovery is a parallel journey for families and loved ones.
Sustainability in recovery is crucial for both individualsand families.
Families often lack support and tools to navigate theirloved one's struggles.
Detaching with love should not mean abandoning therelationship.
Witnessing someone else's experience with compassion isessential.
Families need to engage in their own recovery process.
The DSM-5 has changed how we view substance use disorders.
Opportunities for change can arise before hitting rockbottom.
Self-compassion is vital in the recovery journey.
Connection to nature and community enhances personalrecovery.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Lisa Katona Smithdiscusses her book 'Parallel Recovery' and the importance of family involvementin the recovery process. She shares her personal journey, the challengesfamilies face, and the need for sustainable practices in recovery. Lisaemphasizes the significance of compassion, connection, and the role of familiesin supporting their loved ones struggling with substance use and mental healthdisorders. The conversation highlights the need for a shift in how familiesapproach recovery, focusing on empowerment and understanding rather thandetachment and blame.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Nicole : https://reelcovery.org/contact-us
Book recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best Advice: "Your network is your net worth."
Song that symbolizes recovery to Nicole: My Whole World | FOUNT
Resources: ReelCovery
Takeaways
Nicole celebrated five years of sobriety on 10-11-2020.
She serves the recovery community through her nonprofit,Real Covery.
Recovery means everything to Nicole; it's life or death.
Nicole's journey includes trauma, family dynamics, andsubstance use.
She found faith during a mission trip to Nicaragua.
Nicole's professional fishing career is intertwined with herrecovery journey.
Relapse is part of the journey; Nicole experienced it in2019.
AA played a crucial role in her recovery and spiritualgrowth.
Real Covery aims to connect fishing with recovery and faith.
Nicole emphasizes the importance of community andaccountability in recovery. Daily routines are essential for sustainablerecovery.
The AA Big Book and the Life Recovery Bible aretransformative texts.
Networking plays a crucial role in recovery and personalgrowth.
Forgiveness is a vital part of healing, both for oneself andothers.
Restoring relationships can be a significant success inrecovery.
Letting go of control is a common challenge in recovery.
Self-reflection helps in understanding personal issues andgrowth.
Finding peace and serenity is achievable through recoverywork.
It's important to reach out and not feel alone in thejourney.
Recovery is a collective effort, and support is available.
Summary
In this episode, Nicole Jacobs shares her powerful journeyfrom addiction to recovery, emphasizing the importance of faith, community, andpersonal growth. She discusses her struggles with alcohol and drug use, theimpact of trauma, and how her relationship with God transformed her life.Nicole highlights her work with the nonprofit Real Covery, which connectsfishing with recovery, and the significance of accountability through AA. Herstory is one of resilience, hope, and the belief that recovery is possible foreveryone. In this conversation, Nicole Jacobs shares her journey of recovery,emphasizing the importance of establishing a consistent routine, the impact ofliterature on her recovery, and the value of networking. She discusses thechallenges of letting go of control and the successes of restoringrelationships with her family. Nicole also highlights the significance offorgiveness and self-reflection in her healing process, ultimately delivering apowerful message to those struggling with addiction.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Steven: http://www.stevenmbellmusic.com/
Book recommendation: Read “Uncomfortable Truth:Faith, Failure, Redemption” - https://a.co/d/6DIK4RB
Best Advice: Reach Out
Song that symbolizes recovery: I'm letting go by Steven M.Bell
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Summary
In this episode, Stephen Bell shares his powerful journey ofrecovery from alcohol addiction, detailing the struggles he faced, the role offaith in his transformation, and the importance of community support. Hediscusses his memoir, 'Uncomfortable Truth,' and how writing has been atherapeutic process for him. Stephen emphasizes the significance of honesty,daily routines, and the lessons learned throughout his recovery journey,ultimately inspiring others to believe in the possibility of change and healing.
Takeaways
Recovery is a day-to-day process that requires honesty.
Finding purpose in serving others is crucial in recovery.
Faith plays a significant role in overcoming addiction.
Writing can be a therapeutic outlet for healing.
Community support is vital for recovery success.
Facing one's demons is uncomfortable but necessary forgrowth.
Daily routines help maintain a sustainable recovery.
It's important to forgive oneself for past mistakes.
Micro cravings can be a challenge even after years ofsobriety.
There is always hope for those struggling with addiction.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Reach out to Trevor Shick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-shick-27b2971a6/
Roo Mi:
https://kindhabitlabs.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation)
Ego is the enemy by Ryan Holiday - https://a.co/d/eq0dpaR
Best Piece of Recovery advice: The people that make themeeting make it
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Am I dreaming by Metro Boomin,A$AP Rocky - https://youtu.be/7aUZtDaxS60
Takeaways
Recovery means getting another chance to live.
Emotional sobriety is different from just being dry.
Service commitments keep us engaged in recovery.
Connection with others is essential for recovery.
Honesty with oneself and others is crucial.
Taking ownership of one's recovery journey is empowering.
Community support can transform the recovery experience.
Finding joy in life again is a key aspect of recovery.
Relapses are common but do not define recovery.
The journey of recovery is ongoing and requires dailyeffort. Hearing others' stories can lead to personal transformation.
Vulnerability is essential for growth in recovery.
Accountability helps maintain progress in sober living.
Daily routines play a crucial role in recovery.
Community engagement enhances the recovery experience.
Forgiveness is a vital part of healing.
Relationships are often the greatest success in recovery.
Literature can provide profound insights into recovery.
It's important to hold oneself accountable for actions.
Sober living environments need effective management tools.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Trevor Shick shareshis journey through addiction and recovery, highlighting the impact of alcoholon his life and the importance of emotional sobriety. He discusses the role ofservice and community in recovery, the challenges of relapses, and thesignificance of honesty and open-mindedness in the recovery process. Trevoremphasizes the joy of living a sober life and the connections he has builtwithin the recovery community, illustrating that recovery is an ongoing journeythat requires daily commitment and effort. In this conversation, Trevor Shickshares his transformative journey through recovery, emphasizing the importanceof vulnerability, accountability, and community. He introduces Kind Habit Labsand its flagship product, Rumi, an app designed to enhance accountability insober living environments. The discussion highlights common challenges faced inrecovery, the significance of daily routines, and the impact of literature andadvice on personal growth. Trevor also reflects on forgiveness and therelationships that define success in recovery, concluding with a symbolic songthat resonates with his journey.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: AA Big Book -https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Let go, let God.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Omar: Survivor by ZachWilliams - https://youtu.be/8R4tdF2s42w?si=WAl4sXZDv5M3IW1W
Takeaways
Every day is a miracle in recovery.
Sharing recovery stories provides hope to others.
Serving the recovery community is essential for personalgrowth.
Recovery is more about self-discovery than just abstainingfrom substances.
Feeling different and not belonging can lead to addiction.
Drugs provided a false sense of confidence and acceptance.
Recovery involves learning to sit with feelings andemotions.
Action is crucial in maintaining recovery and emotionalstability.
Understanding fears and character defects is key torecovery.
Practicing patience and non-action can lead to betteroutcomes.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Omar shares hisinspiring journey of recovery from addiction, detailing his experiences withvarious substances, the importance of community support, and the transformativepower of sharing recovery stories. He emphasizes the significance ofself-discovery, emotional regulation, and the necessity of serving others inthe recovery process. Omar discusses the challenges of rebuilding relationshipsand the ongoing journey of forgiveness, both for himself and others. He highlightsthe daily practices that support his recovery, including prayer, exercise, andjournaling, and reflects on the impactful literature that has guided him,particularly the Big Book. The conversation concludes with a discussion on theimportance of letting go and trusting the process of recovery, as well as thesymbolic songs that resonate with the journey of healing.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact: connect@breathesober.com
Recovery literature recommendation: Breaking The Habit ofBeing Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by by Dr. JoeDispenza - https://a.co/d/af5yWmi
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "That's not so bad"(don't take things too seriously)
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Hamza : Wasting My YoungYears by London Grammar - https://youtu.be/pkeDBwsIaZw
Resources: Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/@breathesober.sobriety
Masterclass:https://youtu.be/hA7g7zvCx1M?si=-bAu0P1Gx0ZEIZJe
Website www.breathesober.com
Calendar link: www.breathesober-reset.com/clarity-call
Summary
In this episode, Hamza Najam shares his journey of recoveryfrom addiction, focusing on the importance of understanding the root causes ofsubstance use. He discusses his experiences with alcohol and cocaine, thestruggles he faced in seeking help, and the transformative power of breathworkand meditation. Hamza emphasizes the significance of building new habits,emotional healing, and the role of community support in recovery. He alsohighlights the importance of daily routines and self-care, offering insightsinto literature that has impacted his journey. The conversation concludes withencouragement for those still struggling, reminding them that recovery ispossible and that taking the first step is crucial.
Takeaways
Recovery means taking full ownership of your situation.
Breathwork and meditation can help regulate the nervoussystem.
Understanding the root causes of addiction is essential forrecovery.
Building new habits is crucial for long-term sobriety.
Emotional healing involves releasing stored energy from pasttraumas.
Community support plays a vital role in recovery.
Daily routines are essential for maintaining a healthylifestyle.
Feelings are not facts; they can mislead us.
The quality of life is the true currency of happiness.
Every day is an opportunity to choose a different path.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Sober Songs the Musical:
https://www.sobersongsthemusical.com/
Guests:
MELANI CARRIÉ
Musician & Actor Plays Angie
HENRY RYEDER
Musician & Actor Plays Dean
Angie's best piece of Recovery advice - What other peoplethink is not of your business
Dean's best piece of Recovery advice - Don't get well toosoon Dean
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Mel & Henry:
Mel - Opening & Closing Song Welcome Back
Henry - If nothing changes
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Charlie andguests Henry Ryder and Melanie Carrier discuss the off-Broadway musical 'SoberSongs,' which explores the complexities of recovery through humor and music.They delve into how the show serves the recovery community, the importance ofcommunity and relationships in recovery, and the unique portrayal of addictionin popular culture. Both guests share their personal experiences and insightsgained from their roles, emphasizing the significance of self-awareness,honesty, and the ongoing journey of recovery.
Takeaways
Sober Songs brings humor to the recovery narrative.
The importance of community in recovery cannot beoverstated.
Recovery is a journey that intertwines with personalidentity.
Self-awareness is crucial in recognizing the need forchange.
Relationships play a vital role in sustaining recovery.
The show aims to lower barriers to conversations aboutrecovery.
Humor is an essential part of the recovery process.
Each character represents different stages of recovery.
The portrayal of recovery in media often lacks depth andauthenticity.
Sober Songs encourages open discussions about addiction andrecovery.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact: rob@shinealightlv.com
Recover Literature (Quit-Lit)Recommendation: A new pair of glasses by Chuck C. https://a.co/d/aZHIS35
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Justshow up!
Song that symbolizes Recovery toRobert: Fight song by Rachel Platten - https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc
Resources:
www.shinealightlv.com
www.crossroadsofsonv.com
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Rob Banghart shareshis profound journey through addiction and recovery. He discusses the pivotalmoments that led him to embrace sobriety, the importance of community andservice in recovery, and the challenges he faced along the way. Rob emphasizesthe significance of daily routines, spiritual practices, and the impact offentanyl on the current addiction landscape. He reflects on his relationshipswith his daughters and the ongoing journey of forgiveness. Through his work inthe recovery field, Rob finds purpose and fulfillment, inspiring others to seekhelp and change their lives.
Takeaways
Rob's primary substance of choice was heroin, but hestruggled with various substances throughout his journey.
Recovery is not just about sobriety; it's about living afulfilling life.
Community and connection are vital in the recovery process.
Rob emphasizes the importance of spiritual principles in hisdaily life.
He believes in the power of service to others as a keycomponent of recovery.
Rob's experience in prison was a turning point in his life.
He found purpose in helping others who are struggling withaddiction.
Fentanyl has drastically changed the landscape of addictionand recovery.
Forgiveness, especially regarding family relationships, is asignificant theme in Rob's life.
Daily routines and accountability are crucial formaintaining sobriety.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact: The FamilyRecovery Documentary
Get your tickets to the premiere!
https://ticketing.marcustheatres.com/seat/layout?Siteid=2041&FeatureCode=HO00006845&SDate=2025-10-22&STime=17%3A00&Perf=24682
Resources: Thrive Family Recovery Resources
Home | Mysite Illume website
BALM®Family Recovery - BALM
https://www.thecaf.org/
Recovery literature recommendations:
Pam- Amazon.com: The Anatomy of Peace (Fifth Edition): Resolving theHeart of Conflict (Audible Audio Edition): The Arbinger Institute, KaleoGriffith, Ascent Audio: Audible Books & Originals
Shelly- Amazon.com: The Four Agreements (Audible Audio Edition): donMiguel Ruiz, Peter Coyote, Amber Allen Publishing Inc.: Audible Books &Originals
Kathy- BALM® Family Recovery - BALM
Song recommendations:
Pam- Tonight! Together: Family Recovery in Richmond &Williamsburg - jasrudeen@gmail.com - Gmail
Shelly- Indigo Girls - Closer to Fine (Official HD Video)
Pat Benatar - We Belong (Official Music Video)
Kathy- Sister Sledge - We Are Family (Official Music Video)
Summary
This conversation explores the vital role of family in therecovery process from addiction, highlighting personal journeys, the importanceof support systems, and the creation of a groundbreaking documentary focused onfamily recovery. The speakers share their experiences and insights on howfamilies can reclaim their lives and contribute to the recovery ecosystem,emphasizing the need for compassion, understanding, and proactive engagement inthe healing process. In this engaging conversation, the guests discuss theirdocumentary focused on family recovery, detailing its premiere and futurescreenings. They emphasize the importance of community outreach and engagement,sharing personal routines and influential literature that shaped their recoveryjourneys. The discussion also touches on valuable advice for those strugglingwith addiction and the significance of music in family recovery. The episodeconcludes with heartfelt encouragement for listeners to seek help and stayconnected.
Takeaways
Family members are integral to the recovery process.
Recovery is a holistic journey that involves the entirefamily.
The documentary aims to fill the gap in understanding familyroles in recovery.
Personal experiences shape the approach to family recovery.
Support systems are crucial for both individuals andfamilies in recovery.
The power of one can change the trajectory of familydynamics.
Education and awareness are key in addressing addiction.
Compassionate approaches can replace outdated tough loverhetoric.
The documentary showcases actionable solutions for families.
Creating a healthy ecosystem is essential for recovery. Thedocumentary aims to impact families dealing with addiction.
Community engagement is crucial for spreading awareness.
Daily routines help maintain focus and intention inrecovery.
Literature like 'The Anatomy of Peace' offers valuableinsights.
Setting boundaries is essential for personal well-being.
Music plays a significant role in family recovery.
The importance of unconditional positive regard inrelationships.
Creating a family recovery movement can foster support.
It's vital to embrace loved ones as unwell, not bad.
Connection and communication are key to healing.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Michael Z:
Wisdom of the Rooms (Book and Daily Email List) - https://thewisdomoftherooms.com/
Twelve Steps: A Modern Hero’s Journey - https://a.co/d/a3j1a1j
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Sermon on the Mount - https://a.co/d/gQ0zjwE
Best piece of Recovery advice: Find someone to be honestwith, a mentor or sponsor
Stairway to Heaven by Led Zepplin - https://youtu.be/iXQUu5Dti4g
Heroes by David Bowie - https://youtu.be/lXgkuM2NhYI
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Michael Z shares hisprofound journey of recovery, emphasizing the importance of the 12 steps andthe hero's journey. He discusses the significance of morning pages, serving therecovery community, and the role of quotes in maintaining a positive mindset.Michael reflects on the nature of worry, the power of a higher power, and thetransformative process of letting go of old habits. He draws parallels betweenthe hero's journey and recovery, highlighting the importance of mentors, theabyss of self-reflection, and the ultimate goal of sharing one's experience toheal others. The conversation concludes with insights on daily recoverypractices, forgiveness, and the empowering nature of music in recovery.
Takeaways
Recovery is a journey of self-discovery and transformation.
Morning pages help clear negativity and foster gratitude.
Serving the recovery community is a vital part of healing.
Quotes can provide strength and inspiration in recovery.
Worry is a waste of imagination and energy.
Recovery is about aligning with a higher power's will.
The hero's journey mirrors the recovery process.
Letting go of old habits is essential for transformation.
Daily practices are crucial for maintaining recovery.
Forgiveness is a continuous process in recovery.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableeonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Dr. Larry Smith Author of Johnnie and Me: Facing the Voiceof Alcohol Within, Retired Chiropractor, Person in Long Term Recovery
https://www.drlarrysmithauthor.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Count Your Blessings by John F. Demartini - https://a.co/d/70wltK0
Best piece of Recovery advice: Practice Gratitude
Take it Easy by The Eagles - https://youtu.be/32Oc2d_3yEk
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Dr. Larry Smithshares his profound journey through addiction and recovery, discussing hisexperiences with various substances, the impact of trauma, and the importanceof authenticity and service in recovery. He emphasizes the significance ofcommunity support, the challenges faced during recovery, and the transformativepower of writing. Dr. Smith also highlights the importance of gratitude anddaily practices in maintaining sobriety, while sharing insights from his newbook, 'Johnny and Me: Facing the Voice of Alcohol Within.'
Takeaways
Recovery is about living authentically and embracing who youare.
The journey of recovery is often long and requiresresilience.
Serving the recovery community is a vital part of healing.
Trauma can have lasting effects, but healing is possible.
Writing can be a powerful tool for processing experiences.
Daily practices and routines are essential for maintainingsobriety.
Forgiveness is a journey that takes time and effort.
Connection with others in recovery fosters understanding andsupport.
Gratitude can transform the way we experience life.
Sharing our stories can inspire hope in others.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available eonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Dave: 612-414-5575
Contact Cherish: 719-851-0143
Recovery literature recommendation: The Bible
Best Advice: "Be Obedient" and "Embrace yourpain"
Songs that symbolize recovery to Cherish:
The Blood by Bethel Music, Jenn Johnson, feat. Mitch Wong - https://youtu.be/4DtiMf1xoLM
Look What You've Done by Tasha Layton - https://youtu.be/ZyfUdwGBjtk?si=kljGO_Mo62x-njow
Dave's pick: Black Sheep by Ben Fuller - https://youtu.be/erc4IeGwfjk?si=9fA05JkFs38t7UeT
Takeaways
Cherish's drug of choice was methamphetamines andcodependency.
Dave grew up with an alcoholic father, which influenced hischoices.
Recovery means community and plugging into the church forCherish.
Dave has been serving the recovery community for 25 years.
Cherish is passionate about eradicating homelessness andaddiction.
Both Cherish and Dave emphasize the importance of prayer inrecovery.
Cherish's relationship with her daughter has improvedsignificantly through recovery.
Dave's ministry focuses on helping those who feel lost andhopeless.
The joy of the Lord is a central theme in theirconversations.
Cherish and Dave believe in the power of divineappointments. Cherish highlights the transformation of a friend through faithand community involvement.
God's patience and grace are central to the recoveryprocess.
Forgiveness is essential for personal healing and growth.
Living out one's purpose in Christ brings joy andfulfillment.
Daily routines can significantly impact spiritual health andrecovery.
The Bible is a powerful tool for guidance andtransformation.
Advice to put God first can change one's perspective onlife.
Protecting sobriety is crucial, akin to caring for anewborn.
Music can serve as a healing tool in recovery.
Running to God, not away from Him, is vital for healing.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Jason, CherishBlowers, and Dave Johnson discuss their personal journeys through addiction andrecovery. Cherish shares her struggles with methamphetamines and codependency,while Dave reflects on his upbringing with an alcoholic father. Both emphasizethe importance of community, prayer, and mentorship in the recovery process.They highlight the transformative power of faith and the joy of serving others,as well as the vision for Lost Sheep Ministries, which aims to help those inneed. The conversation is filled with personal stories, insights, and a sharedcommitment to helping others find hope and healing. In this conversation,Cherish Blowers and Dave share their transformative journeys of faith,recovery, and community. They discuss the importance of understanding God'svoice, the power of forgiveness, and the significance of daily routines inspiritual growth. They also reflect on impactful literature, the challengesfaced in recovery, and the healing power of music. Their parting messagesemphasize hope, encouragement, and the importance of running to God in times ofstruggle.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Reach out to Author, ADHD Coach and person in long termrecovery Serena Palmer:
https://www.serena.consulting/
My Two Brains and Me by Serena Palmer: https://a.co/d/b7Y9qA5
More about box breathing: https://www.verywellhealth.com/box-breathing-8423967
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
24 Hours a Day - https://a.co/d/6Y9iXqe
Best piece of Recovery advice: Stay in your own lane
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Serena:
When Doves Cry by Prince: https://youtu.be/UG3VcCAlUgE?si=zYBo7-63wDb6nDRO
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Serena Palmer sharesher journey through recovery and her experiences with ADHD. She discusses theconnection between ADHD and addiction, the importance of recovery communities,and the role of social media in raising awareness about ADHD. Serena alsohighlights the unique challenges faced by women with ADHD and the impact ofsocietal expectations on their experiences. Through personal anecdotes, sheillustrates the complexities of addiction and the journey to self-acceptanceand healing. In this conversation, Serena Palmer shares her profound journeythrough addiction and recovery, detailing the escalation of her drinking, thebreaking point that led to her seeking help, and the ongoing challenges shefaces in maintaining sobriety. She discusses the insanity of addiction, theturning point in her recovery, and the importance of embracing learning andpersonal growth. Serena emphasizes the power of daily recovery practices, thesignificance of forgiveness, and the role of music in her healing process. Herstory is one of resilience, self-discovery, and the continuous journey ofrecovery.
Takeaways
Recovery is about freedom of choices and believing in magic.
Many people with ADHD may not realize they are addicts.
Social media can be a powerful tool for ADHD awareness.
ADHD symptoms can be exacerbated by hormonal changes.
Women often experience ADHD differently than men, leading tolate diagnoses.
The journey of recovery is often intertwined withunderstanding one's ADHD.
Emotional regulation is a significant challenge for thosewith ADHD.
Masking behaviors can lead to exhaustion and addiction.
Personal stories of addiction can help others feel lessalone.
Recovery is a continuous journey that requires honesty andsupport. Binge drinking escalated to dangerous levels.
Addiction leads to a cycle of self-loathing and harm.
The breaking point often comes unexpectedly.
Recovery requires facing painful truths.
Daily practices are essential for maintaining sobriety.
Forgiveness is a crucial part of healing.
Emotional regulation is a learned skill.
Music can be a powerful tool in recovery.
Self-discovery is a continuous journey.
Quality of sobriety matters more than duration.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Andrew: mercado.media.productions@gmail.com
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: One day at a time
Song recommendation: Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s
Check out Mercado Media on YouTube
Mercado Media – https://www.youtube.com/@mercadomedia
Takeaways
Andrew Mercado shares his journey from addiction to recovery.
He emphasizes the importance of community and sharing one's story.
Recovery is a personal journey that varies for everyone.
The military provided structure that helped him avoid addiction during service.
Addiction can manifest in various forms, even for those with supportive backgrounds.
Cocaine addiction led to reckless behavior and near-miss encounters with law enforcement.
Treatment experiences can differ greatly, and not all programs work for everyone.
Andrew highlights the need for more veteran-focused recovery resources.
He reflects on the importance of living recovery out loud to help others.
The conversation underscores that addiction does not discriminate based on background. Surrendering control is essential for recovery.
Hyper-focusing on recovery can lead to success.
Quitting smoking is a personal journey with challenges.
Mercado Media was born out of a desire for unfiltered news.
COVID-19 changed the landscape of media reporting.
Engaging with the community is vital for media success.
War journalism presents unique challenges and experiences.
Recovery is a continuous journey with ups and downs.
Forgiveness is a crucial part of healing.
Music can be a powerful symbol of recovery.
Summary
In this episode, Andrew Mercado shares his personal journey from being a cocaine addict to finding recovery and purpose. He discusses the impact of his military background, the challenges of transitioning to civilian life, and the importance of community in recovery. Andrew reflects on his experiences with addiction, the consequences he faced, and the wake-up calls that led him to seek help. He emphasizes the need for more veteran-focused recovery resources and the significance of living recovery out loud to inspire others. In this conversation, Andrew Mercado shares his journey from addiction to recovery and the founding of Mercado Media. He discusses the importance of surrendering control in recovery, the challenges of quitting smoking, and the impact of COVID-19 on media reporting. Andrew highlights the significance of engaging with the community and the unique experiences of war journalism. He emphasizes the continuous nature of recovery, the importance of forgiveness, and the power of music as a symbol of recovery. Throughout the discussion, Andrew offers encouragement to those struggling with addiction, reminding them that recovery is a personal journey that can lead to success and fulfillment.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Kaila Yu:
https://kailayu.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: It's all happening FOR me
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kaila:
Welcome to the Jungle Guns N’ Roses - https://youtu.be/o1tj2zJ2Wvg
Takeaways:
Kyla has been sober for nearly 12 years, emphasizing theimportance of community in recovery.
Emotional sobriety is as crucial as physical sobriety in therecovery journey.
Kyla's strict upbringing contributed to her feelings ofinadequacy and social anxiety.
The first experience with ecstasy provided a sense of joyand acceptance that was previously missing.
Cocaine use escalated quickly, leading to a loss of controland moral decline.
Kyla's music career was intertwined with her substance use,leading to significant challenges.
Service to the recovery community is essential formaintaining sobriety.
Writing became a therapeutic outlet for Kyla, leading to herupcoming book.
Sharing personal stories helps to break stigma and shameassociated with addiction.
Kyla's journey illustrates the importance of forgiveness andself-acceptance in recovery.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Kyla shares herjourney of recovery from addiction, emphasizing the importance of emotionalsobriety, community support, and the power of storytelling. She discusses herexperiences with substance use, the impact of her upbringing, and how she foundhealing through writing and service to others. Kyla's insights highlight thecomplexities of recovery, including the challenges of feeling emotions and thesignificance of forgiveness and self-acceptance. Her upcoming book,'Fetishized,' explores themes of identity and empowerment, showcasing hergrowth and resilience throughout her recovery journey.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Learn more about Jam Alker’s work:
https://www.jamalker.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best pieces of Recovery advice:
Keep coming back!
Get comfortable being uncomfortable
Shut up and listen
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jam:
A Call to Arms by Jam Alker - https://youtu.be/-SSCMS4-PX4
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Jam Alker shares hisprofound journey of recovery from addiction, emphasizing the importance ofvulnerability, service, and holistic health. He discusses his experiences withsubstance use, the evolution of his recovery, and the establishment of hiswellness center, HEAL. Jam highlights the significance of personal growth, thechallenges of navigating wellness options, and the power of community inrecovery. He reflects on the lessons learned through adversity and the joyfound in being present for loved ones, ultimately advocating for a life ofservice and gratitude.
Takeaways
Recovery is about moving outside of your comfort zone.
Service to others is the foundation of recovery.
Holistic health practices can significantly improvewell-being.
The journey of recovery is ongoing and evolves over time.
Letting go of what no longer serves you is crucial forgrowth.
Daily routines and practices are essential for maintainingrecovery.
Gratitude plays a vital role in a positive outlook on life.
The principles of recovery can be applied to overallwellness.
It's important to run experiments in your recovery journey.
Forgiveness and acceptance are key to living a fulfillinglife.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Kristin- mskristincasey@gmail.com
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation:
Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression -and the Unexpected Solutions - https://a.co/d/62AVxrq
Best Advice: "People will always treat you the way theysee you treat yourself."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Only God Knows Why by KidRock - https://youtu.be/cDshdJK9Rwg
Kristin's books:
Casey Dancer: A Memoir About Dating, Stripping, and a LittleHot Yoga - https://a.co/d/ij1WYrL
Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh - https://a.co/d/1Hpk35k
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Jason speakswith Kristin Casey, a recovering addict and author, about her journey throughaddiction, recovery, and the writing process. Kristin shares her experienceswith various substances, her service to the recovery community, and theimportance of authenticity in relationships. She discusses her new memoir, CaseyDancer, which explores her life as a stripper and the lessons learned insobriety. The conversation highlights the significance of storytelling inrecovery and the role of journaling in self-discovery. In this engagingconversation, Kristin Casey shares her journey of self-discovery,vulnerability, and healing through writing and personal experiences. Sheemphasizes the importance of authenticity in her work, the power ofvulnerability in connecting with others, and the significance of supportivecommunities. Kristin also offers valuable advice for aspiring writers,discusses daily routines that aid recovery, and reflects on lessons learnedabout self-worth and love. The conversation touches on forgiveness, personalsuccesses, and even includes some raunchy stories from her past, all whilehighlighting the importance of music in recovery.
Takeaways
Kristin Casey's journey through addiction involved varioussubstances, primarily alcohol and stimulants.
Recovery for Kristin means developing coping skills tomanage life on life's terms.
She has been active in the recovery community, sponsoringwomen and sharing her story.
Writing her memoirs was a way to share her experiences andhelp others understand addiction.
Kristin emphasizes the importance of authenticity inrelationships and recovery.
Her new book, Casey Dancer, explores her experiences in thestripping industry and dating.
She believes that the quality of life is determined by thequality of relationships.
Journaling played a crucial role in her writing process,helping her recall past experiences.
Kristin's openness about her past helps others relate andfind hope in their struggles.
She reflects on the vulnerability of sharing her story andthe growth it has brought her. Authenticity in writing is crucial forconnection.
Vulnerability allows others to relate and heal together.
Creating supportive communities can empower individuals.
Journaling is a powerful tool for aspiring writers.
Daily routines are essential for maintaining recovery.
Self-worth is a journey that can take years to understand.
Forgiveness can lead to deeper relationships.
Success can manifest in unexpected ways over time.
Understanding others can prevent unnecessary resentment.
Music can be a profound source of healing and reflection.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Jon: https://www.jonseidl.com/confessions-of-a-christian-alcoholic-book
Jon’s book: Finding Rest: A Survivor's Guide to Navigatingthe Valleys of Anxiety, Faith, and Life - https://a.co/d/g1UwG6v
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Living Fearless: Exchanging the Lies of the World for theLiberating Truth of God by Jamie Winship - https://a.co/d/e8paRPU
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "Get to the root to getto the rot!"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Jon: Only Jesus ForMy Pain by Cory Asbury - https://youtu.be/bVJfUZ_oYJI?si=UbrV1j8foqtkBXa_
Takeaways
Recovery is more than just sobriety; it's about spiritualgrowth.
Radical vulnerability is essential in sharing one's story.
The journey to sobriety often involves multiple steps andrealizations.
Childhood trauma can significantly impact adult behavior andchoices.
Escapism is a common theme in addiction and recovery.
Therapy plays a crucial role in understanding and healingfrom past traumas.
Writing can be a therapeutic outlet for sharing experiences.
Community support is vital in the recovery process.
Acknowledging the root causes of addiction is necessary forlasting change.
Faith can provide strength and guidance in the recoveryjourney. Addiction is often rooted in misordered priorities.
Self-reflection is crucial for understanding one'srelationship with substances.
Idolatry can manifest in various forms, including addiction.
The journey of recovery is a continuous process ofsanctification.
Facing emotions is one of the hardest challenges inrecovery.
Finding hope in Jesus is essential for lasting change.
Daily routines play a significant role in maintainingsobriety.
Literature can provide valuable insights and inspiration forrecovery.
Forgiveness is a vital aspect of healing and moving forward.
Recovery is about choosing life over numbing pain.
Summary
In this conversation, John Seidl shares his journey ofrecovery from addiction, emphasizing the importance of spirituality,vulnerability, and community support. He discusses the impact of childhoodtrauma on his life and how it influenced his relationship with alcohol. Johnhighlights the significance of therapy in his healing process and the role ofwriting as a therapeutic outlet. He encourages listeners to understand thatrecovery is more than just achieving sobriety; it involves addressing deeper issuesand finding hope and purpose in life. In this conversation, Jon Seidl discussesthe complexities of addiction, the importance of understanding misorderedpriorities, and the role of faith in recovery. He emphasizes the need forself-reflection, the dangers of idolatry, and the significance of emotionalhealing. Jon shares his personal journey of recovery, highlighting the processof sanctification and the daily routines that support his sobriety. He alsoreflects on the challenges of forgiveness and the transformative power of hopefound in Jesus, concluding with recommendations for literature and songs thatresonate with the recovery experience.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Sabrina Rose - Author Thirty, Dirty, & Dying : From theJournals of a Raging Bipolar Alcoholic:
Facebook pagehttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61563367177655
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sabrinaillustrated/
Book Link: https://a.co/d/eW6UNIN
TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@sabrina_illustrated
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
The Alcoholism and Addiction Cure: A Holistic Approach toTotal Recovery by Chris Prentiss - https://a.co/d/d6pvjk7
Best piece of Recovery advice: The Party is over
Wake Up Mad Season https://youtu.be/rKiw94M2v8A
ACE Quiz:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Charlie speakswith Sabrina Rose, a person in long-term recovery and author of '30 Dirty andDying.' Sabrina shares her journey through addiction, the importance ofcommunity in recovery, and the transformative power of self-love. They discussthe impact of childhood trauma on addiction, the challenges of self-discoveryin sobriety, and the significance of writing in healing. Sabrina emphasizes theneed for gratitude and mindfulness in daily recovery practices, and theyexplore the role of influential literature in understanding addiction. Theconversation culminates in a discussion about forgiveness, healing, and thesymbolic songs that resonate with recovery journeys.
Takeaways
Recovering out loud creates magic in recovery.
Community is crucial for staying sober.
Self-love is a key aspect of recovery.
Isolation can hinder the recovery process.
Trauma often underlies addiction issues.
Physical dependence on alcohol can be life-threatening.
Detox can lead to spiritual awakenings.
Writing can be a powerful tool for healing.
Gratitude and mindfulness are essential in recovery.
Forgiveness is a complex journey in healing.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Emiliano: freeforever010224@gmail.com
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations: The Bibleand the Big Book
Best Pieces of Recovery Advice: Embrace the present moment |One Day at a Time
Song that symbolizes recovery: Made for More by Josh Baldwin-
https://youtu.be/UnLQvzAUiCo?si=M2XCtuxH4MQvJ-sq
Summary
In this episode, Emiliano Roman shares his profound journeythrough addiction, recovery, and personal transformation. He discusses hisearly experiences with substance abuse, the impact of family dynamics, and thestruggles of becoming a parent while battling addiction. Emiliano reflects onthe consequences of his actions, including time spent in prison and thechallenges of homelessness. Ultimately, he emphasizes the importance ofrecovery, spirituality, and the ongoing journey of healing and growth. In thisconversation, Emiliano Roman shares his profound journey of recovery fromaddiction, detailing the pivotal moments that led him to sobriety. He recountsthe harrowing experience of turning himself in at gunpoint, the challengesfaced during treatment, and the transformative power of faith and communitysupport. Emiliano emphasizes the importance of taking ownership of one'sactions, the role of forgiveness, and the joy of rebuilding relationships withhis children. His story is one of resilience, hope, and the belief that a newlife is possible through dedication and support.
Takeaways
Recovery is about restoration and developing spirituality.
Addiction can manifest in various forms beyond substances.
Family dynamics play a crucial role in shaping our lives.
Childhood trauma can lead to feelings of isolation andemptiness.
Substance use often begins as a way to cope with deeperissues.
Consequences of actions can lead to significant lifechanges.
Parenthood can be both a motivator and a challenge for thosein recovery.
The journey of recovery is ongoing and requires action.
Finding community and support is vital in the recoveryprocess.
Transformation is possible, regardless of past experiences.Emiliano's journey into sobriety began at gunpoint, highlighting a pivotalmoment of choice.
He faced numerous legal challenges but chose to confrontthem rather than run away.
The importance of community and faith played a significantrole in his recovery.
Emiliano learned to embrace vulnerability and becameteachable during treatment.
He developed a daily routine that includes prayer,meditation, and journaling.
Forgiveness is a crucial aspect of recovery, both foroneself and others.
Emiliano's relationship with his children has been restored,marking a significant success in his life.
He emphasizes the importance of taking action in recoveryand not just relying on words.
The concept of surrendering to a higher power wastransformative for Emiliano.
He encourages others to never give up on themselves and tokeep hope alive.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Jason Robinson and Recovery Café Lexington:
https://recoverycafelexington.org/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps byRichard Rohr - https://a.co/d/26eQqPf
Best pieces of Recovery Advice:
Keep coming back
Do the next right thing
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jason:
Running Down a Dream by Tom Petty - https://youtu.be/Y1D3a5eDJIs?si=ef3FuEwZzh9RWnbS
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Jason Robinsonshares his inspiring journey of recovery spanning over 18 years. He discusseshis initial struggles with alcohol and other substances, the pivotal momentsthat led him to seek help, and the profound impact of the Recovery Cafe in hislife and community. Jason emphasizes the importance of community support,personal growth, and the ongoing journey of recovery, highlighting the toolsand practices that have helped him maintain his sobriety. He reflects on thechallenges of romantic relationships in recovery and the significance offorgiveness and kindness in his daily life. Jason's story is a testament to thetransformative power of recovery and the importance of helping others along theway.
Takeaways
· Jason identifies as an opportunistic user,primarily struggling with alcohol.
· He has been sober since June 21, 2007, marking18 years of recovery.
· Service to the recovery community has been acornerstone of his journey.
· Recovery Cafe Lexington provides a safe spacefor individuals in recovery.
· The cafe model emphasizes meeting people wherethey are, regardless of their recovery journey.
· Recovery means being at peace with oneself andunderstanding diverse pathways to recovery.
· Jason's turning point came during a family tripwhere he realized he needed help.
· He emphasizes the importance of community inovercoming addiction.
· Daily practices include reading recoveryliterature and practicing kindness.
· Forgiveness remains a challenge, particularlyregarding past relationships.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Scott Strode:
Executive Director and Founder of The Phoenix - https://thephoenix.org/
Co-Founder Newform - https://www.newform.org/
Author of Rise. Recover. Thrive. How I Got Strong, GotSober, and Built a Movement of Hope - https://a.co/d/dFqBSWG
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The DeepestWell: Healing the Long-Term Effects of Childhood Trauma and Adversity - https://a.co/d/6g6EoKH
Aces score: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean
Best piece of Recovery advice: Give yourself grace andempathy.
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Baby shark
2LOT & Aloe Blacc – Immortal - https://youtu.be/smvoB2RN06c
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Scott Strode shareshis profound journey through addiction and recovery, emphasizing the importanceof community, connection, and self-reflection. He discusses his experienceswith substance use, the impact of adverse childhood experiences, and how hefounded The Phoenix, a free, sober, active community that supports individualsin recovery. Scott highlights the significance of building authenticrelationships and the role of various recovery resources, including the NewForm app, in fostering a supportive environment for healing and growth. Hereflects on the challenges and successes of his recovery journey, ultimatelyconveying a message of hope and resilience.
Takeaways
· Scott Strode has over 28 years of continuoussobriety.
· Addiction often begins with substances likealcohol, which can lead to harder drugs.
· Community and connection are vital in therecovery process.
· The Phoenix is a free, sober, active communitythat promotes healing through activities.
· Recovery is a journey of self-reflection andpersonal growth.
· Adverse childhood experiences can significantlyimpact one's life and recovery.
· It's important to seek support and buildauthentic relationships in recovery.
· The New Form app connects individuals to variousrecovery resources and communities.
· Forgiveness and grace towards oneself arecrucial in the healing process.
· Recovery is not a competition; every journey isunique and worth celebrating.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Shine a Light:
https://www.shinealightlv.com/
https://crossroadsofsonv.com/
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Brent Nowak shares his powerful journey of recovery from addiction, detailing his struggles with substances like methamphetamine and heroin. He discusses the importance of community support in recovery, his work with the Shine a Light Foundation, and the transformative power of personal growth. Brent emphasizes the significance of being willing to change, the role of music in his life, and the ongoing challenges of self-forgiveness. His story is one of resilience, hope, and the belief that recovery is possible for everyone.
Takeaways
Brent's substance of choice was methamphetamine and heroin.
Recovery is an internal journey, focusing on becoming a better version of oneself.
Serving the recovery community is a vital part of Brent's life.
Connection and community support are crucial in recovery.
Brent's turning point came when he was arrested and sentenced to prison.
The Shine a Light Foundation provides essential resources for those in need.
Daily gratitude and reflection are key components of Brent's recovery routine.
Forgiveness, especially of oneself, is a significant challenge in recovery.
Music plays a vital role in Brent's emotional well-being.
Brent's greatest success is helping others achieve their recovery goals.
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Drop the Rock by Bill P, Todd Weber, Sara S - https://a.co/d/4rkSqEj
The Inner Work: An Invitation to True Freedom and LastingHappiness by by Mathew Micheletti , Ashley Cottrell , The Yoga Couple , Mat& Ash - https://a.co/d/gtoi5H8
Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits& Break Bad Ones by by James Clear - https://a.co/d/9AYirhW
Best piece of Recovery advice: Fail Forward
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Tim: 612-791-9942 or email him at wartimj@gmail.com
Books: Staying Sober: A Guide for Relapse Prevention: Terence T.Gorski, Merlene Miller, Father Martin: 9780830904594: Amazon.com: Books
Drop the Rock: Removing Character Defects - Steps Six andSeven: P., Bill, Todd Weber, S., Sara: 9781592851614: Amazon.com: Books
Best Advice: Stay in the Solution
Song that symbolizes recovery to Tim: ZachWilliams - Chain Breaker (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube
takeaways
- Tim Warren hosts the Attitude for Gratitude podcast.
- Recovery is about embracing a new life and serving others.
- Service work is crucial for personal recovery and community support.
- Tim had a loving upbringing but still fell into addiction.
- Substance use began with alcohol and marijuana in his teens.
- Tim's addiction escalated from pain medication to heroin.
- He realized that addiction doesn't discriminate based on background.
- The podcast serves as a platform for sharing recovery stories.
- Community support is vital in the recovery process.
- Tim emphasizes the importance of being of service to others. Neuroplasticity allows for the creation of new pathways in the brain.
- Comparison can hinder personal growth and recovery.
- Recovery is a lifelong process that requires continuous effort.
- Coping with loss can be managed without relapse.
- Relapse prevention is crucial in maintaining sobriety.
- Solution-based thinking helps in overcoming challenges.
- Personal experiences can lead to significant spiritual awakenings.
- Gratitude plays a vital role in recovery and happiness.
- Daily routines are essential for sustainable recovery.
- Forgiveness is a process that may take time and reflection.
Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Tim Warren shareshis powerful journey from addiction to recovery. He discusses the importance ofservice work in the recovery community, the impact of his loving upbringing,and how he transitioned from casual substance use to addiction. Tim emphasizesthat addiction does not discriminate and highlights the significance ofcommunity support in the healing process. Through his podcast, Attitude forGratitude, he aims to help others by sharing stories of recovery and thelessons learned along the way. In this conversation, Timmy J Warren shares hisjourney of recovery, emphasizing the importance of neuroplasticity, self-esteembuilding, and the impact of comparison on personal growth. He discusses thelifelong process of recovery, coping with loss, and the significance of relapseprevention. Timmy highlights the value of solution-based thinking, personalexperiences that lead to spiritual awakening, and the role of gratitude inmaintaining a positive attitude. He also outlines his daily recovery routine,impactful literature, and the advice he finds most valuable in his journey. Theconversation concludes with reflections on forgiveness and the songs thatsymbolize recovery for him.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Shurr JR:
https://linktr.ee/shurrjrband
Recovery literature (Quit-lit) Recommendation: The Easy Wayto Quit Drinking by Allen Carr - https://a.co/d/eNLCK9o
Best piece of recovery advice: Learn to forgive yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Frankie: Here comes theregular by The Replacements - https://youtu.be/sdbXGi2WX0Q
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Summary
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Frankie Maxwell Jr. shares his journey through addiction and recovery, highlighting the transformative power of music and family support. He discusses his sobriety since October 10, 2021, and how recovery has allowed him to appreciate life's small joys. Frankie emphasizes the importance of honesty in recovery and reflects on the chaos of addiction versus the peace found in sobriety. He also shares insights on the creative process in his band, Shur Jr., and the role of family in his healing journey. In this conversation, Frankie Maxwell Jr. and Charlie explore the complexities of addiction, the importance of self-compassion, and the role of music in recovery. They discuss personal experiences with addiction, the significance of daily routines, and the impact of family relationships on recovery. Frankie shares his musical influences and how they shape his artistic expression, while also reflecting on the importance of forgiveness and celebrating successes in recovery.
Takeaways:
- Frankie has been sober since October 10, 2021.
- He uses music as a therapeutic outlet for his experiences with addiction.
- Recovery has allowed him to appreciate the small joys in life.
- Frankie emphasizes the importance of honesty in recovery.
- He believes that laughter is a crucial part of healing.
- The band Shur Jr. was formed as a creative outlet during recovery.
- Frankie finds that sobriety enhances his creativity.
- He acknowledges the role of family support in his recovery journey.
- Frankie reflects on the chaos of addiction and the peace of sobriety.
- He recognizes the importance of processing grief without substances. Addiction often stems from a desire to escape reality.
- Self-compassion is crucial in navigating recovery.
- Finding healthier outlets can replace harmful behaviors.
- Music serves as a powerful influence in recovery.
- Daily routines can significantly impact recovery success.
- Forgiveness is essential for personal growth.
- Family relationships can shape recovery experiences.
- Celebrating small successes is important in recovery.
- Understanding the root causes of addiction can aid in healing.
- Music can symbolize and support the recovery journey.
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Contact Jessie- jesksidhu@gmail.com
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: SacredContracts: Awakening Your Divine Potential - https://a.co/d/fiyhm2c
Best Advice: "Come all the way in and sit all the waydown."
Song that symbolizes recovery to Jessie- Patakha GuddiHighway by Alia Bhatt, Randeep Hooda - https://youtu.be/8HDTS80dlr4?si=mboPmLQ1jgVkf9aZ
Resources:
Step and Heal Recovery Coaching - https://stepandheal.com/
CCAR - https://ccar.us/
Still Here: https://www.still-here.ca/recovery
Summary
In this episode, Jessie Sidhu shares her profound journeythrough alcoholism and recovery. From her early exposure to alcohol in adysfunctional family to her struggles with high-functioning alcoholism, Jessiereflects on the pivotal moments that led her to seek help. She emphasizes theimportance of personal work in recovery, the role of community, and theunexpected ways that hope can manifest, such as through her beloved dog.Jessie's story is one of resilience, healing, and the ongoing journey ofrecovery. In this conversation, Jessie shares her personal journey from a lifeof addiction to recovery, highlighting the importance of emotional growth,spirituality, and community support. She discusses her experiences with 12 Stepprograms and the significance of commitment in the recovery process. Jessiealso emphasizes that recovery is not just about quitting drinking but involvescontinuous healing and personal growth. Additionally, she introduces theconcept of recovery coaching, advocating for diverse paths to recovery and theimportance of individualized support. In this episode, Jessie and the hostdiscuss the transformative journey of recovery coaching, emphasizing theimportance of training, daily routines, mindfulness, and acceptance. Theyexplore the challenges of forgiveness and self-acceptance, the role ofliterature in recovery, and the significance of being present in the moment.Jessie shares a song that symbolizes recovery and offers a message of hope andsupport to listeners.
Takeaways
- Recovery is a lifelong process of healing.
- Fellowship is important, but true recovery requires personal work.
- Recovery means more than just abstaining from substances; it's about healing.
- Childhood trauma can influence substance use later in life.
- High-functioning alcoholics often mask their struggles with success.
- The transition from casual drinking to dependency can be gradual.
- Panic attacks can be a significant part of the recovery journey.
- Relationships often suffer due to addiction and mental health issues.
- A turning point can come from unexpected sources, like a pet.
- Emotional growth is a crucial part of recovery.
- The 12 steps are a guide, not the only way.
- Spirituality can be found in various forms.
- Healing is a continuous journey, not a destination.
- Community plays a vital role in recovery.
- Commitment to the process is essential for success.
- Self-discovery is key in finding the right recovery path.
- Recovery is about healing and personal growth.
- Daily routines are essential for sustainable recovery.
- Mindfulness and grounding techniques are crucial for self-care.
- Literature can have a profound impact on recovery journeys.
- Acceptance is a daily challenge in recovery.
- Success in recovery is defined by being present in the moment.
- Forgiveness is tied to acceptance and neutrality.
- Gratitude plays a key role in recovery.
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist”availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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In this episode of the Way Out Podcast, host Charlie LeVoir speaks with Barney Whiter, who shares his journey of sobriety and recovery from alcohol addiction. They discuss the cultural implications of alcohol, the importance of living in the present moment, and the process of recovery as a journey of discovery. Barney reflects on his health scares that prompted him to quit drinking and the role of disconnection in addiction. The conversation emphasizes that any motivation to seek recovery is valid and highlights the significance of sharing personal experiences to support the recovery community. In this conversation, Barney From The Escape Artist shares his journey from a high-stress corporate finance job to achieving financial independence and recovery from alcohol dependency. He discusses the impact of corporate life on health, the importance of confidence in making life changes, and the costs associated with chasing financial success. The conversation emphasizes the need for self-awareness and the courage to break free from self-imposed limitations.
Takeaways:
- Barney has been sober since August 20, 2022, counting his days of sobriety.
- Recovery is often about taking it one day at a time.
- Living in the present moment is crucial for recovery.
- Alcohol was a significant part of Barney's life for 35 years.
- Barney serves the recovery community by sharing his journey and experiences.
- Recovery is a process of discovery rather than just a return to baseline.
- Disconnection from oneself can lead to serious health issues.
- Health scares can serve as a wake-up call to change one's life.
- Any reason to seek recovery is a valid reason.
- Barney identifies as sober but does not define his entire identity around it. Barney quit his corporate job at 43 due to health issues.
- He used alcohol as a coping mechanism for stress.
- The FIRE model helped him achieve financial independence.
- Health and emotional wellness were key factors in his decision to leave corporate life.
- He emphasizes the importance of confidence in making life changes.
- Barney helps others escape their self-imposed prisons through financial coaching.
- Money can provide freedom, but confidence is essential to escape toxic situations.
- The cost of success can be detrimental to health and relationships.
- Self-awareness is crucial in recognizing when to make a change.
- Recovery can lead to unexpected opportunities and fulfillment.
Reach out to Barney Whiter | Creator of the Escape ArtistBlog | Financial Coach | Person in long Recovery:
https://theescapeartist.me/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Biology of Desire: Why Addiction Is Not a Disease byMarc Lewis PhD - https://a.co/d/iMH3jwf
Alcohol Explained by William Porter - https://a.co/d/7zXSpoM
Best piece of Recovery advice: Your ability to endureaddiction will allow you to thrive in Recovery.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Barney:
Hold On by Wilson Phillips - https://youtu.be/uIbXvaE39wM?si=UXYlBbfUgM3EShnE
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We here The Way Out Podcast are deeply committed to supporting and advocating for research that advances and improves treatment for substance use disorders and mental illness. That’s why we’ve teamed up with Boise State University’s Crossing the Boise Brain Bridge for a special three-episode mini-series, hosted by Charles, Mel, and Ashley. Together, we'll explore how rehabilitation—rather than punishment—may offer a more effective path for individuals navigating both traumatic brain injuries and addiction so listen up.
Episode Summary:
The Neural Navigators Podcast explores the intersection of traumatic brain injuries (TBI) and substance use disorders (SUD), emphasizing the need for compassionate care and rehabilitation over punitive measures. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by individuals with TBI and SUD in accessing treatment, the impact of stigma, and the importance of tailored strategies to support their recovery. Experts advocate for policy changes that prioritize understanding and compassion, as well as providing guidance for future healthcare professionals working with this population.
Takeaways:
- Rehabilitation is often more effective than punishment for TBI and SUD.
- Individuals with TBI face unique challenges in accessing care.
- Stigma can significantly hinder treatment access and recovery.
- Compassionate care strategies are essential for success.
- Awareness of TBI symptoms is crucial for effective treatment.
- Policy changes are needed to support individuals with TBI and SUD.
- Listening to clients' needs is fundamental in care.
- Healthcare professionals should avoid assumptions about clients' experiences.
- Teaching daily living skills is vital for recovery.
- Building rapport with clients enhances treatment outcomes.
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We here The Way Out Podcast are deeply committed to supporting and advocating for research that advances and improves treatment for substance use disorders and mental illness. That’s why we’ve teamed up with Boise State University’s Crossing the Boise Brain Bridge for a special three-episode mini-series, hosted by Charles, Mel, and Ashley. Together, we'll explore how rehabilitation—rather than punishment—may offer a more effective path for individuals navigating both traumatic brain injuries and addiction so listen up.
Episode Summary:
This episode of the Neuro Navigator Series delves into the complex relationship between traumatic brain injuries (TBI) and addiction, exploring how rehabilitation can be a more effective solution than punishment. The conversation highlights the role of law enforcement in addressing these issues, the importance of compassionate care, and the successes and challenges of diversion programs. It emphasizes the need for community involvement and innovative approaches in crisis management, while also reflecting on the progress made in mental health and addiction treatment.
Takeaways:
- The intersection of TBI and addiction often leads to punitive measures rather than compassionate care.
- Law enforcement faces the challenge of balancing justice with the need for treatment.
- Diversion programs can provide alternatives to incarceration for individuals with substance use disorders.
- Community involvement is crucial in supporting individuals struggling with addiction and mental health issues.
- Innovative approaches, such as pairing officers with mental health clinicians, can improve crisis management.
- Compassionate care can significantly impact the outcomes for individuals in crisis.
- The complexity of addiction requires multifaceted solutions and community support.
- Success stories from diversion programs highlight the potential for recovery.
- Mental health crises are increasingly becoming a primary focus for law enforcement.
- Continued advocacy for better treatment options is essential for addressing addiction and TBI.
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We here The Way Out Podcast are deeply committed to supporting and advocating for research that advances and improves treatment for substance use disorders and mental illness. That’s why we’ve teamed up with Boise State University’s Crossing the Boise Brain Bridge for a special three-episode mini-series, hosted by Charles, Mel, and Ashley. Together, we'll explore how rehabilitation—rather than punishment—may offer a more effective path for individuals navigating both traumatic brain injuries and addiction so listen up.
Episode Summary:
The Neural Navigators podcast explores the intersection of traumatic brain injuries (TBI) and addiction, emphasizing the need for rehabilitation over punishment. The discussion highlights the complexities of TBI, its symptoms, and the often-overlooked link to substance use disorders. Experts advocate for a compassionate, interdisciplinary approach to treatment, addressing the stigma surrounding these issues and the importance of understanding the dynamic nature of the brain.
Takeaways:
- Traumatic brain injury (TBI) can have long-term effects on behavior and cognition.
- There is a significant link between TBI and substance use disorders.
- Many TBIs go undiagnosed, especially in underserved populations.
- Rehabilitation requires an interdisciplinary approach to be effective.
- Emotional dysregulation is a common symptom of TBI.
- Access to quality healthcare is often limited for marginalized groups.
- The brain's dynamic nature means recovery is possible with proper support.
- Stigma surrounding TBI and addiction can hinder treatment efforts.
- Compassionate care is essential for individuals with TBI and addiction.
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In this conversation, Kyle Peterson shares his journey fromaddiction to recovery, highlighting the importance of community and connectionin the healing process. He discusses his experiences with substance abuse, theimpact of family dynamics, and the challenges of relapse. Kyle emphasizes thesignificance of building a supportive recovery community through the CouveCollective in Vancouver, Washington, which he co-founded to help others findhope and healing. The discussion also touches on the role of the Recovery CafeNetwork in providing resources and support for recovery organizations. In thisconversation, Kyle Peterson discusses the multifaceted approach to recovery,emphasizing the importance of community support, innovative programming, andpersonal growth. He shares insights on the challenges and successes in hisrecovery journey, the significance of daily routines, and the impact ofliterature on his life. The discussion also touches on the importance offorgiveness and the role of music in recovery, culminating in a heartfeltmessage about the power of connection and support in overcoming addiction.
Contact: kyle@couvecollective.org
Book recommendation: Atomic Habits: An Easy and Proven Wayto Build Good Habits and Break Bad Ones by James Clear - https://a.co/d/ehwGYp3
Best piece of Recovery advice: Always be humble and alwaysshow respect.
Song that symbolizes recovery: Made For More by JoshBaldwin, feat. Jenn Johnson - https://youtu.be/Ov9Ls4npIrc?si=RUUMQNyHvXuWOJzR
Resources:
Recovery Community In Vancouver, WA - Couve Collective - https://couvecollective.org/
Recovery Café Network - https://recoverycafenetwork.org/
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Contact: mentalhealthctr.com
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Motivational Interviewing: Helping People Change and Grow by William R. Miller PhD, Stephen Rollnick PhD - https://a.co/d/0e0LrSe
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mark: Eye of The Tiger by Survivor - https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4?si=ku4iDWLxrhyTUujh
In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, host Jason R.m engages in a deep conversation with Dr. Mark Hrymoc, a psychiatrist specializing in addiction. They explore the multifaceted nature of recovery,the intersection of addiction and mental health, and the importance of treating both simultaneously. Dr. Hrymoc shares insights on innovative treatments like ketamine therapy and the challenges of medications like Suboxone. The discussion also touches on personal reflections about family, success, and the ongoing journey of learning in both personal and professional realms. Dr. Hrymoc emphasizes the importance of reaching out for help and the value of support in the recovery process.
Takeaways
Recovery means functioning optimally without limitationsfrom addiction.
Addiction and mental health issues often feed off eachother.
Both addiction and mental health need to be treatedsimultaneously.
Ketamine therapy shows promise for treating depression andanxiety.
Suboxone can be challenging to taper off, but a slowapproach can help.
Psychopharmacology is focused on treating brain disorderswith medication.
Addiction is a lifelong condition that requires management.
Family dynamics play a crucial role in addiction recovery.
It's important to model humility and communication inrelationships.
Struggling with addiction is not a shameful experience.
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In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Skeeter shares his profound journey through addiction and recovery, reflecting on the importance of hope, spirituality, and connection with others. He discusses his substance use history, the role of service in recovery, and how music has been a lifeline throughout his life. Skeeter emphasizes the significance of honesty,mentorship, and the ongoing process of self-discovery in maintaining sobriety.His insights offer a powerful reminder of the resilience and strength found in the recovery community. In this conversation, Skeeter shares his profound journey of recovery, emphasizing the importance of honesty, self-discovery, and spirituality. He discusses the layers of self-deception that can hinder personal growth and the significance of living in the present moment. Skeeter highlights the role of connection with others in recovery and the unique paths individuals take. He reflects on impactful literature, daily routines, and the journey of forgiveness, ultimately underscoring the power of action in transforming thoughts and feelings.
takeaways
- Skeeter has been sober since March 29, 1990, marking 35 years of recovery.
- Recovery is about getting to know one's higher self beyond just abstaining from substances.
- Service in the recovery community is best achieved by putting ego aside and focusing on others.
- Connecting with others in recovery is vital for personal growth and understanding.
- Hope is a crucial element that can inspire individuals to seek recovery.
- Spirituality plays a significant role in Skeeter's understanding of recovery.
- Recovery is a continuous process of learning and self-discovery.
- Music has been a powerful source of hope and connection for Skeeter throughout his life.
- Changing relationships with food is part of the recovery journey.
- Gratitude for life and acceptance of one's past are essential for ongoing recovery. Honesty is crucial in recovery and comes in layers.
- Self-deception can hinder personal growth and awareness.
- Living in the present moment is essential for recovery.
- Spirituality plays a significant role in the recovery journey.
- Connection with others enhances the recovery experience.
- Each individual's recovery path is unique and personal.
- Daily routines help maintain a grounded recovery.
- Literature like the Big Book can have a profound impact on recovery.
- Finding one person to be honest with can change your life.
- Forgiveness is a journey that can lead to unexpected freedom.
Check out Skeeter’s podcast!
https://www.youtube.com/@catchit9649
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be Honest!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Skeeter: Bohemian Rhapsodyby Queen - https://youtu.be/fJ9rUzIMcZQ
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Welcome to another edition of The Way Out Podcast! I'm your host, Charlie, and in this rendition of The Way Out, we have something truly special lined up for you. You might know Edwin McCain as the voice behind timeless hits like 'I'll Be' and 'I Could Not Ask for More,' but beyond the music, he's got a deeply personal story that embodies recovery, resilience, and transformation.
For those of you who’ve been listening to The Way Out from the start, you’ll recognize this as the original format of the show, where I would deliver the introduction to the interview that followed. We’re going old school on this one with Edwin because once our chat got started, there was no stopping for nothin.
In this conversation, Edwin opens up about his journey to and through Recovery to this point—the highs, the struggles, and the lessons that have shaped him not just as an artist, but as a human being. His insights into addiction, healing, and finding purpose beyond fame are powerful and deeply relatable. All of this he takes into his new album, Lucky for which he embarks on Tour to support starting in our back yard in Minneapolis tomorrow, Cinco De Mayo of all days.
Perhaps the most profound and resonant piece of spiritual and Recovery wisdom to come from our recovery rap session is that Nothing is the hardest thing to do on our path to and through Recovery. This strikes at the very core of mine and so many that I’ve come to knows experience. Boredom and idle time was untenable and it felt impossible not to react to most everything.Paradoxically, when I’m spiritually centered, Nothing is too hard in Recovery or life. So whether you’re doing something or nothing as you listen, I am certain you’ll enjoy kicking it old school with Edwin and I waxing poetic on all things Recovery so Listen Up.
Takeaways
Recovery is a personal journey that requires understandingone's triggers.
The loss of an addict can lead to others finding their pathto sobriety.
Mindfulness can help individuals separate their thoughtsfrom their actions.
Harm reduction strategies can be effective for someindividuals in recovery.
Community support is crucial in the recovery process.
Every recovery journey is unique and requires tailoredapproaches.
Understanding brain chemistry can aid in addressingaddiction.
Families must also engage in the recovery process to breakthe cycle. It's hard to bring people to the realization of their challenges.
Family dynamics can complicate recovery.
Emotional responses can be overwhelming in early recovery.
Altruism is a key component of recovery support.
Recovery is about becoming a dependable person.
Balance is essential for a fulfilling life.
Creativity can flourish when addiction is removed.
Recovery allows for deeper emotional connections.
The stigma around addiction can hinder treatment.
Recovery can lead to unexpected moments of clarity.Connection is everything for me.
You can't rush the process.
Be the best example of recovery.
I'm not looking for an attaboy.
Gratitude list is usually way up there.
Living Sober had the biggest impact.
The hardest thing in the world to do is nothing.
Learn more about Edwin McCain and his music - https://edwin.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Living Sober:Practical Methods Alcoholics Have Used for Living Without Drinking - https://a.co/d/dpoxlCW
Best piece of Recovery advice: The hardest thing in the worldis to do nothing
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Edwin: The Lucky One by AndersOsborne - https://youtu.be/pJOoKWwjj5A
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In this episode of the Way Out Podcast, Killian Ann No shares her profound journey of recovery and the mission of Recovery Cafe. The conversation explores the essence of recovery, emphasizing that everyone is recovering from something, whether it be mental health issues, trauma, or substance use. Killian discusses the importance of community, connection, and intentionality in the recovery process, highlighting how Recovery Cafe serves as a nurturing space for individuals to find love, support, and healing. The dialogue also delves into the challenges of maintaining joy amidst loss and the significance of discernment in relationships. Ultimately, the episode is a heartfelt exploration of love, acceptance, and the ongoing journey of recovery.
Takeaways
Recovery is about addressing core causes and conditions.
Connection with ourselves and others is vital for healing.
We are all recovering from something, not just substances.
Intentionality in choosing love over fear is crucial.
Community plays a significant role in the recovery process.
Discernment is necessary for understanding love in relationships.
Forgiveness is a daily practice in recovery.
Experiencing loss is a part of the recovery journey.
Finding joy amidst suffering is essential.
Every individual has a divine love within them.
Reach out to Killian Noe, Co-Founder of Recovery Cafe andRecovery Cafe Network and a person Committed to the spiritual and recoveryjourney:
https://recoverycafenetwork.org/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Invitation toLove by Thomas Keating - https://a.co/d/dJulhkq
Best piece of Recovery advice: Don’t waste too much timegetting yourself and others all cleaned up, acceptance does more for healingthen trying to fixing each other.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Killian: Bring Me a HigherLove by Steve Winwood - https://youtu.be/k9olaIio3l8
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Reach out to Dr. Adi Jaffe: https://www.adijaffe.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom(A Toltec Wisdom Book) - by Don Miguel Ruiz - https://a.co/d/iaCIYwj
The Biology of Belief 10th Anniversary Edition: Unleashingthe Power of Consciousness, Matter & Miracles by Bruce H. Lipton PHD - https://a.co/d/iR6tX6r
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be Honest
Artist that symbolizes Recovery to Adi: Nine Inch Nails
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Contact Aneta: https://www.instagram.com/centerofsolace/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:
The Little Book of Big Change: The No-Willpower Approach toBreaking Any Habit by Amy Johnson PhD - https://a.co/d/c5wUcbR
The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav - https://a.co/d/3sHtfvN
Best piece of Recovery advice: You are not your thoughts.
Song that symbolizes recovery: Awake my Soul by Mumford and Sons - https://youtu.be/KpcBjt8Wqg8
Resources:
https://centerofsolace.com/
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist”available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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Contact Cody: rollercodster2012@gmail.com
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: 12 Rules forLife: An Antidote to Chaos by Jordan B.Peterson https://a.co/d/caElfKi
Best piece of Recovery advice: Drive your own car
Song that symbolizes recovery: River of Deceit by Mad Seasonhttps://youtu.be/Fm72DPJCX58?si=aNfxs42yBhvJajf4
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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George Haymaker - Certified Neuroscience Coach +Neuroeducator:
https://www.georgehaymaker.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: A.A. Big Book- https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice - There are three things you must always askyourself before you say anything:
Does this need to be said?
Does this need to be said by me?
Does this need to be said by me now?
Music that symbolizes Recovery to George:
Dire Straits Mark Knopfler
Eric Clapton
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Contact Cassie: vandevoorde7@gmail.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Unfu*kYourself: Get Out of Your Head and into Your Life by by Gary John Bishop - https://a.co/d/6PigsuM
Best piece of Recovery advice: Your brain needs time toheal. So be patient.
Song that symbolizes recovery to Cassie: Love Is Still TheAnswer by Jason Mraz - https://youtu.be/Sc2BK09eKhk
Resources: Thrive Family Recovery Resources - https://www.thrivefrr.org/
Wild Hearts Adventures - https://www.wildha.org
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Learn more about Recovery Café Anoka County and donate:
https://www.recoverycafeanokacounty.org/
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Learn more about Sean Hemeon Actor (911, Criminal Minds),Author (Good Little Drug Lord), artist:
https://www.seanhemeon.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:
Drop the Rock: Removing Character Defects - Steps Six andSeven by Bill P., Todd Weber, Sara S. - https://a.co/d/hjoGscH
The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself by MichaelA. Singer - https://a.co/d/gGu8uHQ
Best piece of Recovery advice: Get comfortable with saying “IDon’t Know”
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Sean:
Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley - https://youtu.be/vIw0ewEsNHs
Don’t Worry Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin - https://youtu.be/d-diB65scQU?si=l3y5i3-OKmNXJlNn
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Jonathan Todd Schwartz Licensed addiction counselor and licensed therapist (CADC, AMFT)
Quit lit (recovery literature) recommendation: How to Do the Work: Recognize Your Patterns, Heal from Your Past, and Create Your Self - https://a.co/d/0nrEqSe
Best piece of recovery advice: Be willing to be vulnerable
Recovery resources:
Aces score: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean
Music that symbolizes Recovery to Jonathan: Anything by Linkin Park - https://linkinpark.com/
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Contact Michael: paddlefordmichael@gmail.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Any dailydevotionals are worth reading
Best piece of Recovery advice: Recover Loud
Recovery Resources:
https://www.facebook.com/recoveryontheroad/
https://www.youtube.com/@RecoverLoud
Song that symbolizes recovery to Michael: The Beginning by The Real Young Swagg - https://youtu.be/-lkFQ7azuwI?si=ZeUZTn2VPwGBx2nh
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Learn more about Person in long term recovery, author, host of Sober Living Snippets, and Recovery Coach Becca Jacobson:
https://beccajacobson.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Autobiography of a Yogi (Self-Realization Fellowship) by Paramahansa Yogananda - https://a.co/d/2yb9bXu
Best piece of Recovery advice: Get over your terminal uniqueness
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Becca: Everything Is AWESOME!!! -- The LEGO® Movie - https://youtu.be/StTqXEQ2l-Y?si=XEAV3uM40Wj27eVN
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Contact Mike on his website: https://mikecinelli.com/
Book recommendation: Resilient: Restoring Your Weary Soul inThese Turbulent Times by John Eldredge - https://a.co/d/d7LVha9
Best Advice: Bloom where you are planted!
Song that symbolizes recovery to Mike: Spirit Lead Me byInfluence Music & Michael Ketterer - https://youtu.be/1Ko4yroBP0A?si=DE14e-5Gh30tlt2n
Resources: Hamilton County Coalition | Opioid OverdosePrevention | Tennessee - https://www.hccoalition.org/
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Contact Ian:
ianwfee@hotmail.com
Resources: Wild Ride To Sobriety: A Transformation fromDrunken Oblivion to Profound Clarity by Ian Fee - https://a.co/d/bG6kz3t
Website: https://wildridetosobriety.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The FourAgreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom - https://a.co/d/hRFlBbv
Best piece of Recovery advice: Take it one day at a time
Song that symbolizes recovery: Welcome To The Jungle by GunsN' Roses - https://youtu.be/o1tj2zJ2Wvg
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Reach out to Kennerly Clay:
https://kennerlyclay.com/
Letters from East of Nowhere - https://a.co/d/35LNKfd
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Came to believe - https://a.co/d/1CU86AY
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Stick around for the miracleto happen.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kennerly: Free by UltraNate - https://youtu.be/JgRBkjgXHro
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Contact Tyler on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61557112647258
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Finding YourMoral Compass: Transformative Principles to Guide You In Recovery and Life byCraig Nakken - https://a.co/d/9lNbd8v
Best piece of Recovery advice: "Its OK to not be OK,it's just not ok to stay that way"
Song that symbolizes recovery: Be Alright by Nappy Roots - https://youtu.be/P614pRLZWWU
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Learn more about Musician and person in long term recovery HanaPiranha:
https://www.hanapiranha.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in aCulture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker - https://a.co/d/hz7qTM1
Best piece of Recovery advice: Never question your decisionto get sober
The Devil Always Pulls Through by Hana Piranha: https://youtu.be/LKojaqN5TQI
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Learn more about Mishkin Fitzgerald and her projects:
Lead Singer of CRIMSON VEIL on the major label ReigningPhoenix
Bass Player in Hana Piranha
https://www.notsaints.co.uk/
https://reigningphoenixmusic.com/news/crimson-veil-release-debut-album-hex-tomorrow-launch-title-track-music-video
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in aCulture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker - https://a.co/d/bFoLFcl
The Sober Diaries: How one woman stopped drinking andstarted living by Clare Pooley - https://a.co/d/1AwB4qt
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Forgive yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mishkin:
Eleventh Hour by Lamb of God - https://youtu.be/beltaLLilj4
Charlie’s guilty Christian Rock Song: Flood by Jars of Clay -https://youtu.be/EfAhpX_wIBk
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Reach out to Chris De Banks Founder of Not Saints and learnmore about Not Saints:
https://www.notsaints.co.uk/
Recover literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Big Book AVision for You -https://www.aa.org/sites/default/files/2021-11/en_bigbook_chapt11.pdf
Best piece of Recovery advice: Accept your imperfection andyour humanity, we are not Saints!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Chris: Ghost by EllaHenderson - https://youtu.be/tA8AfQaUnXM
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Contact: sara.day@freegrace.tv
Recovery literature (quit-lit) Recommendation: HealingThrough Prayer: A 31 Day Devotional by Sara Day - https://a.co/d/6jpAgb9
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Don't do it alone!
Song that symbolizes recovery: Rescue Story by Zach Williams- https://youtu.be/9Yr48Berkqc
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Reach out to Jeff Jones and learn more about his work:
The Family Recovery Solution -https://thefamilyrecoverysolution.com/
Alcohol Bio Quiz https://alcoholbioquiz.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Seven Weeksto Sobriety by Joan Mathews Larson https://a.co/d/7jCFJPK
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jeff: Both Sides Now byJoni Mitchell - https://youtu.be/yXr2EFomFkU?si=QoSS_Jo7EWLZi-Io
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Learn more about Athena and her work:
https://athenaaperta.co.uk/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/4MmRHIifF0sRxChFx2ixtx?si=3Th28KQIR2SG3sgHgrXWRA
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober: Discovering a happy,healthy, wealthy alcohol-free life by Catherine Gray - https://a.co/d/j8c2nTJ
The Sober Girl Society Handbook: An Empowering Guide toLiving Hangover Free by Millie Gooch - https://a.co/d/1h0jGc7
Best piece of Recovery advice: Zoom Out
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Energy by Tyla Jane - https://youtu.be/WOoUNKcKpzM?si=vtsjkcVwYp9tJGfN
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Learn more about Josh Lovelace and his music:
https://www.joshlovelacemusic.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: FallingUpward: A Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life by Richard Rohr - https://a.co/d/7vab9Gf
Best piece of Recovery advice: Find supportive people toyour recovery
I Stopped Drinking Yesterday by Josh Lovelace - https://youtu.be/1MrV9dCv3nE?si=KdhqTxbdn1o1mZZD
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Learn more about the book!
Sobering Wisdom: Philosophical Explorations of Twelve StepSpirituality by Jerome A. Miller (Editor), Nicholas Plants (Editor) - https://a.co/d/ahaGYcP
Literature recommendations:
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky - https://a.co/d/gZ5JNov
The Spirituality of Imperfection: Storytelling and theSearch for Mean by by Ernest Kurtz (Author), Katherine Ketcham (Author) - https://a.co/d/cIvNpQu
Emily Dickenson Poems - https://www.amblesideonline.org/poet-dickinson
Best piece of Recovery advice - It works if you work it
Favorite movie - Charlie Chaplin City Lights
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Jason talks #recovery and #God with Joshua Smith! Josh is the V.P. of the executive board of directors for Recovery Cafe Anoka County and one of the leaders of the Life Recovery Meeting at North Star Community Church in Coon Rapids MN. His heart for service earned him the nickname, "never say no Josh" so do be sure you #ListenUp
Contact Josh at joshua.smith@recoverycafeanokacounty.org
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: TheLife Recovery Bible by Stephen Arterburn - https://a.co/d/2XLrtYC
Best piece of Recovery advice: Give God your burdens.
Song that symbolizes recovery: My Jesus by Anne Wilson - https://youtu.be/FW5o2uBeMWQ?si=DkgPIt1iZWYzEgqy
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Charlie had a wildly entertaining Recovery rap session that was quite insightful indeed with Sonia Kahlon, Creator and Co-Host of the popular Sisters in Sobriety Podcast. Sonia shares her journey to and through Recovery to this point and what Recovery looks like for her today including her podcast work. We even talk about our respective experiences with dating in sobriety so do be sure you #ListenUp.
Learn more about Sonia Kahlon and Sisters in Sobriety:
https://sistersinsobriety.substack.com/
Robert Bray Tapping Video:
https://rlbray.com/services/thought-field-therapy/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Big Book ofAlcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Progress not perfection
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Sonia: Forever by Drake - https://youtu.be/eDuRoPIOBjE?si=gP1LFdYqVwkwHn0c
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Daryl Dittmer first appeared on The Way Out back in March 2024. Listen Here: https://buff.ly/40lO3dK. Daryl is back and he and Charlie had a powerhouse of a Recovery discussion chalked full of Recovery tools and wisdom. They also chat about his upcoming book, When You Stop Fighting: The Road You're On Is Your Own Asphalt a sequel to his debut When I Stop Fighting: The Unexpected Joy of Getting My Head Out of My Ass. So do be sure to #ListenUp
Learn more about Daryl Dittmer and his work: https://www.daryldittmer.com/
Books by Daryl Dittmer:
When I Stop Fighting: The Unexpected Joy of Getting My HeadOut Of My Ass - https://a.co/d/9gXeLA4
When YOU Stop Fighting: The Road You're On Is Your OwnAsphalt - https://www.daryldittmer.com/when-you-stop-fighting
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The TenCommandments by Emmet Fox - https://a.co/d/1tno5Rm
Best piece of Recovery advice: First things first and therest will be added on.
Song that symbolizes Recovery for Daryl: Time by Pink Floyd- https://youtu.be/Qr0-7Ds79zo?si=YpILrH2e6Bl3AiB-
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Sarah Allen Benton is an Advanced Alcohol and Drug Counselor, person in long term #Recovery & Author of the book PARENTS IN RECOVERY: Navigating a Sober Family Lifestyle. Sarah's latest addition into the quit lit space fills a sorely needed void, offering parents in Recovery a field guide full of advice & wisdom from her own experience, experts, & other parents who are in #Recovery. Sarah shares on her Recovery & the unique challenges of parenting in Recovery so #ListenUp
Reach out to Sarah Allen Benton:
https://www.bentonbhc.com/
Parents in Recovery: Navigating a Sober Family Lifestyle - https://www.bentonbhc.com/books/#parents
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Drinking: A Love Story by Caroline Knapp - https://a.co/d/edHdz8r
Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl - https://a.co/d/39EsWoU
Best pieces of recovery advice:
If you don't take the first drink you won't get drunk.
This too shall pass.
Recovery is often a process of recommitting
Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s?si=s0oosQMelxZfbUIA
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Person in long term Recovery and Certified Peer Recover Specialist Cy Cawthorn shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point including the loss of his son in Recovery. Cy's story is a powerful example of what Recovery can look like and what it looks like to transform pain into purpose so #ListenUp https://buff.ly/3AIoRBc
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself - https://a.co/d/52PsENO
Best piece of Recovery advice: Your sobriety is your own.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Cy: All These Things ThatI've Done by The Killers -https://youtu.be/sZTpLvsYYHw?si=W_uBps6X0iyp7cr4
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Contact Alex: mailto:alex@themindfullifepractice.com Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Daily Reflections on Addiction, Yoga, and Getting Well - https://a.co/d/aB8A23J Meditations From The Mat: A Daily Guide for the Practice ofYoga By: Gates, Rolf -https://a.co/d/5yftrWx Best piece of advice: "Really lean intocommunity". Resources/links: Sober Yoga Girl (book) https://a.co/d/6JJrg7cSoberyogagirl.comThemindfullifepractice.com Song that symbolizes recovery: https://youtu.be/4MBwWJdr8_c?si=oH0csGq4mAZCU6xl Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights ReservedTheme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)
Mitch Motivates is a speaker, person in long term Recovery, and Author of the new book My Addiction, My Super Power: From Mania to Motivates: Twelve Tips for Overcoming Addiction, Crushing Life, and Inspiring Others. Mitch has an inspiring story and an infectious passion for Recovery and for helping others find #Recovery themselves so #ListenUp
Reach out to Mitch “Motivates” Leff:
https://mitchmotivates.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
A.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best pieces of Recovery advice: One Day at a Time. Beatyourself up with a feather not a bat.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mitch: Play Hard by DavidGuetta - https://youtu.be/5dbEhBKGOtY?si=xHlx14QNgeqJvHaV
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William C Moyers is Vice President of Public Affairs and community relations for Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation and author of the best selling books "Broken: My Story of Addiction and Redemption" and "Broken Open: What Painkillers Taught Me About Life and Recovery". William shares how his run-in with painkillers took him down a dark path, how he recovered and what he learned through it all in this must listen episode so #ListenUp https://buff.ly/3AIoRBc
Learn more about William Cope Moyers, Vice President ofPublic Affairs Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation and author of these books:
Broken: My Story of Addiction and Redemption - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/11672?Broken-Softcover
Broken Open: What Painkillers Taught Me About Life andRecovery - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/560325?Broken-Open
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
24 Hours a Day - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/1096?Twenty-Four-Hours-a-Day-Hardcover-24-Hours
Songs that symbolize Recovery to William: Anything by the Beatlesor Rolling Stones
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Travis Stevens shares his raw #Recovery story with us, and the transformation in his character and his life are so powerful and evident as you hear him recount the events that led to his ultimate breaking point! His story is inspirational and highly instructive for all of us! Some of the topics covered are parenting, embracing vulnerability, and intimate relationships both in and out of recovery. We've always got more to learn and improve on in this life, so #ListenUp
Contact Travis: gonefishing@gmail.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: NLT LifeRecovery Bible - https://a.co/d/ikAf7lB
Best piece of Recovery advice: "Get vulnerable.Vulnerability brings life back to you."
Song that symbolizes recovery: My Jesus by Anne Wilson https://youtu.be/FW5o2uBeMWQ?si=wUJh3URlS9gGswLd
Resources/links: Riverplace Center - https://riverplacecenter.com/
'Wednesday Night Winners' AA meeting in Anoka MN
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Reach out to Jenny and learn more about her and her work:
https://jennyteeters.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Twelve Stepsand Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Best piece of Recovery advice: Participate!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jenny: I came here to liveby Trace Adkins - https://youtu.be/Steswvd7DQE?si=Y9OT1bcf69CKjCA6
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John Machado shares his passion for the 12 steps with us and talked about a wide array of topics such as emotional maturity in early recovery, communication skills, and learning what true intimacy in a relationship is. The first step towards learning any hard lesson is always thehardest, and nothing that’s worth it is going to come easy! There is a smooth flow as we chop it up together for a bit and I hope you connect with us as much as we did with each other. This was John’s first ever podcast appearance and he's got a great voice for radio so #ListenUp
Contact info:
johnallenmachado.com
johnallenmachado@gmail.com
Instagram: @johnallenmachado
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The FourAgreements by Don Miguel Ruiz - https://a.co/d/4dE1Jzr
Best piece of Recovery advice: You don't want to have “meeting” recovery ( Do the work).
Song that symbolizes recovery to John: Wondering Why by The Red Clay Strays - https://youtu.be/GhcMmaUPtrk?si=kCQz7vGo6p04Jx8s
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Sobriety Coach and person in long term #Recovery Dallas Brag shares his #Recovery journey and how he went from isolation and alienation to meaningful connection. Dallas discusses the challenges he faced as a gay man and with a crystal meth addiction in finding rewarding and enduring #Recovery and how he's helping people like him find Recovery so #ListenUp
Reach out to Dallas Brag:
https://www.drdallasbragg.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Anything by Gabor Mate https://drgabormate.com/book/
Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear https://a.co/d/0XAM1p1
Lust, Men, and Meth: A Gay Man's Guide to Sex and Recovery by David Michael Fawcett - https://a.co/d/iOy14HD
Best piece of Recovery advice: Do one thing to interrupt the negative cycle today.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dallas: Don’t Worry Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin - https://youtu.be/68vZX2uUKKA?si=1HOTppPjkNrGN5i1
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Contact Robert L Bray Licensed Clinical Social Worker PHD Clinical Psychology and learn more about his work:
Thought Field Therapy Center of San Diego
www.rlbray.com
Book recommendations:
The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge -https://a.co/d/5enki8L
The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom - https://a.co/d/iRTyGnV
Best piece of Recovery advice: Your primary purpose is to love yourself as much as the causes and people you love the most
Song recommendations: Anything by Johnny Cash
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Contact Paul and learn more about Wild Heart Adventures:
Wildha.org
Thrivefrr.org
Contact Paul: Paul@wildha.org
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: The Anatomy of Peace: Resolving the Heart ofConflict by The Arbinger Institute - https://a.co/d/hbth1Fs
Best Piece of Advice: "Do you want to be right for the sake of justice? Or do you want to love for the sake of relationship?"
Songs recommendations:
Jake's Song: The Nights by Avicii - https://youtu.be/UtF6Jej8yb4?si=kP44xyv6pRLHx1k2
Paul's Song: I Am... I Said by Neil Diamond - https://youtu.be/tA5bFJt9Wp0?si=_53LnzHax7wwQjzQ
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Jonathan Horstmann is a person in long term #Recovery and frontman and creative force behind the band Urban Heat. Jonathan shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point and how it has enabled to live out his dreams as a touring musician. Jonathan's story is proof positive all our experiences, both positive and adverse can be part of our Recovery process so #ListenUp.
Reach out to Jonathan Horstmann and check out his band Urban Heat:
https://www.urbanheatband.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation - The Sober Lush: A Hedonist's Guide to Living a Decadent, Adventurous, Soulful Life--Alcohol Free - https://a.co/d/0rERNiB
Best piece of Recovery advice – Relapse can be a part of the Recovery process.
To Build A Home by The Cinematic Orchestra - https://youtu.be/oUFJJNQGwhk?si=uOBMFObC0TXrfDuu
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Person in long term Recovery Kerry Braun shares her sobriety journey for the first time on a podcast and all about the amazing work she's doing as a Life and Wellness Coach as a result. Kerry is amazing example of what Recovery can be and the amazing things that can happen when we see what meaningful, rewarding and enduring Recovery looks like up close so #ListenUp.
Reach out to Kerry Braun:
IG: @soul_discoverycoach
FB: @Kerry Soule
More about Kundalini yoga - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_yoga
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Only the here and now can hold you.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kerry: Once You're Gone by Paul Cauthen - https://youtu.be/8mC6xQoym1A?si=MqiBxiom7vV7Lh1N
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Comedian and person in long term Recovery Patrick Holbert shares on his at times uneven journey to #Recovery that included two sober bottoms on top of the bottom that got him into #Recovery in the first place. Patrick is proof positive that recovery gives us the opportunity to rediscover our gifts, talents and abilities and use them to create meaning and purpose in our lives. Laugh along with us as we #RecoverOutLoud and find the funny parts of Recovery #ListenUp.
Reach out to Patrick Holbert and learn more about her work:
https://www.patrickholbert.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
The Tender Bar: A Memoir by J. R. Moehringer - https://a.co/d/aNsT9wd
The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath - https://a.co/d/1P2sGf7
Best piece of Recovery advice - To thine own self be true.
I Don't Wanna Be An Asshole Anymore by The Menzingers - https://youtu.be/TQBG7wAVWAA?si=VfBvI_cLGsKAAULg
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Author and person in long term recovery Caroline Beidler is back along with her Mom and retired Social Worker Diana Dalles who share about their upcoming book You Are Not Your Trauma: Uproot Unhealthy Patterns, Heal the Family Tree. The book offers guide posts to help you with your own trauma and this episode provides helpful insight into trauma, how it effects us individually, how it's passed on generationally and is a testament that family healing is possible #ListenUp
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: You Are Not Your Trauma: Uproot Unhealthy Patterns, Heal the Family Tree by Caroline Beidler and Diana Dalles - https://a.co/d/bqP2Aa0
Best pieces of Recovery advice:
Diana - Be yourself
Caroline - Your life has value and purpose
Song recommendations:
Caroline Break Every Chain by Tasha Cobbs Leonard - https://youtu.be/ucY6NwQTI3M?si=GdIRGaT9RmmKyDg1
Diana I Want to Dance with Somebody by Whitney Houston - https://youtu.be/eH3giaIzONA?si=YNaJfQtaHb6OzzRp
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Contact Paulette: spiritledsobriety@gmail.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol, Find Freedom, Discover Happiness, and Change Your by Annie Grace - https://a.co/d/0j33kofH
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "Quit future trippin'"
Song that symbolizes recovery: Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen - https://youtu.be/IxuThNgl3YA?si=xZ_PJeLUMR30_cVi
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Woman in long term recovery, coach and Author of Recovering in Recovery Shelby John shares her Recovery journey with us in truly enlightening fashion. Shelby shares how she hit a bottom ten years sober, and most instructive, how she Recovered from that sober bottom. Now Shelby helps other sober women do the same as a coach and with her new book. We submit everyone can benefit from the Recovery truth in this episode so #ListenUp Contact Patricia A. Roos and learn more about her book Surviving Alex: A Mother’s Story of Love, Loss, and Addiction - https://www.patroos.com/ Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Unbroken Brain by Maia Szalavitz - https://a.co/d/04BTXZZE Best pieces of advice: You don't get over it you just get used to the idea that you won't get over itGrief doesn't lessen, however your life can grow and move forward Songs that symbolize Recovery to Pat: Forever Young by Bob Dylan - https://youtu.be/Frj2CLGldC4?si=44X0XtLnnnMqYnM7 Wiz Khalifa See You Again ft. Charlie Puth - https://youtu.be/RgKAFK5djSk?si=WDF9DyEBae7FdIPY Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
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https://shelbyjohncoaching.com/
Recovering In Recovery: The Life Changing Joy Of Sobriety by Shelby John - https://a.co/d/05XvJErz
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker - https://a.co/d/059pT1ZL
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Shelby:
The Champion by Carrie Underwood - https://youtu.be/HgknAaKNaMM?si=wi_cB9-88p59K9AS
Girl on Fire by Alicia Keys - https://youtu.be/J91ti_MpdHA?si=RBSarxBtYfmEpyXH
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Reach out to Angela and learn more about her work:
https://angelapugh.com/
Recovery Literature (Addiction Fiction): Killing Hurt by Will Thatcher - https://a.co/d/3o7YXjV
Best Pieces of Recovery Advice: Sit down shut up. Mind your own business.
Songs that symbolize addiction and Recovery to Angela:
Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine - https://youtu.be/bWXazVhlyxQ?si=LtLgUVtFq_x9ILHs
Away from the Sun by 3 Doors Down - https://youtu.be/DDK5qGlLT8s?si=LHeaYAwN6hEvhVbS
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Ashley Wright has faced almost any obstacle you can imagine. The journey has not been an easy one, yet her dedication and commitment to her own #Recovery show us all what is possible if you make the decision to do whatever it takes. We hear about the restoration in her life, how she cultivates stronger bonds than ever, and the myriad of ways that she gives back to her community today. We're sure you will all agree that Ashley is a true inspiration, so #ListenUpContact Ashley: ashley@mnwitw.org Book Recommendation: The Bible Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "If you're not uncomfortable, you're not growing." Song that symbolizes Recovery: Overcomer by Mandisa - https://youtu.be/b8VoUYtx0kw?si=hotgva3s5w8lVpVW Resource Link: Wellness in the Woods - https://mnwitw.org/ Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz?si=3c5c5bb2ba0e4064 (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
Reach out to RJ Zimmerman, host of the untapped keg podcast and alcohol-free life coach:
https://www.untappedkeg.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: Atlas of the Heart - by Brene Brown - https://a.co/d/1SBFYXs
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Embrace the uniqueness of your Recovery
Song that symbolizes Recovery to RJ: She Hates by Me Puddle of Mud - https://youtu.be/BYE4CVhVkhw?si=hw4afhx_hpt99UBV
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Reach out to Constance Todd Smith and Learn More About A Sober Companion:
https://www.constancealignment.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Each Day a New Beginning: Daily Meditations for Women by Karen Casey - https://a.co/d/i2Oq3mN
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Turn it over to your higher power.
Songs that Symbolizes Recovery to Constance: Many Rivers to Cross and I Can See Clearly by Now Jimmy Cliff - https://youtu.be/fjW5f7i5EwE?si=ju8aIVDT4Z8FMo-P https://youtu.be/MrHxhQPOO2c?si=SvXKFSii0Y06OgNv
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Contact Boston: Boston2prct on TikTok or at Faithsrun9@gmail.com
Book recommendation: The Holy Bible
Best Advice: Believe in yourself.
Song that symbolizes recovery- Almost sober by Ian Loveless- https://youtu.be/PBw_008YUZU?si=R57LupXAxLO7ARcc
Resources:
Fire and Ice: The Meth Bible by Boston Bornagain (Author), Sandra Lee (Editor), Steve Oliver (Illustrator) - https://a.co/d/ce3524c
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Contact: Jefferson Tabler on FB
Book recommendation: Amazon.com: Done with That: Escape the Struggle of Your Old Life by Bob Merritt - https://a.co/d/diIcrYs
Best piece of Recovery Aadvice: "In recovery, there's a lot of Pigeons, but not a lot of Eagles. Soar with the Eagle's!! Don't peck in the sand with the Pigeons."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Shake it Off by Taylor Swift - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM
Resources and donations: www.felonshideaway.com
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Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: A. A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Not all suggestions in the rooms of Recovery are good suggestions.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jessica: Love Broke Through by TobyMac - https://youtu.be/44l9PRI4c2M?si=UkkDOEy0xrTZ9Vdk
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Contact Roz: operationsaveourcity@gmail.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation - In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Dr. Gabor Mate https://drgabormate.com/book/in-the-realm-of-hungry-ghosts/
Best piece of advice - Don't judge and be kind.
Song that symbolizes recovery to Roz: Redemption Song by Bob Marley & The Wailers - https://youtu.be/yv5xonFSC4c?si=bb0F7PcIq3qZcfHJ
Resources:
OPERATION SAVE OUR CITY - https://www.facebook.com/OperationSaveOurCity/about
Sunshine House
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Contact Leah- harmreductionislove@gmail.com
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson - https://a.co/d/0LgugJt
Best piece of Recovery advice - "Assume nothing, it makes an ass out of you and me."
Song that symbolizes recovery to Leah: Journey - Don't Stop Believin' https://youtu.be/1k8craCGpgs?si=S07iwGFIMxjKVivz
Resources:
FindTreatment.gov
211 Hotline for essential community services - United Way - https://www.211.org/
Massachusetts Overdose Prevention Helpline - massoverdosehelpline.org
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Reach out to Dean and learn more about his work:
https://deanottospeaking.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Around the Year with Emmet Fox -https://a.co/d/0j3MfAX
Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep it simple
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dean: The More I Drink by Blake Shelton - https://youtu.be/A3MGfJ3eMGA?si=GWBySlHlV3RIrqhn
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Reach out to Chris Dreisbach and learn more about his work including: Founder and President of Blue Prints for RecoveryHost of Night of Recovery https://chrisdreisbach.com/ Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Meditations by Marcus Aurelius - https://a.co/d/gcWsbjU Advice - Go with the flow. Song that symbolizes Recovery to Chris: High for Now by Mike Miz - https://youtu.be/B6CF-tpUAc4?si=bsv02xSBQsOYkxKw Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist 6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
Chas Smith, aka Colicchie:
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:
It Works How and Why: Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions of Narcotics Anonymous - https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/4001?NA-It-Works-How-and-Why-Hardcover
Best pieces of Recovery Advice: Honesty is essential. Do not do this alone!
Song that symbolizes recovery to Chas: Shot in the Dark - https://youtu.be/qBzRoqkHFXo?si=NFgPz3vJRxvAim5j
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Reach out to Kelly and learn more about her work: https://www.kellywallace.org Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Stash: My Life in Hiding by Laura Cathcart Robbins - https://a.co/d/dWdsZeSAA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-bookAA Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions Best piece of Recovery advice: Rejection is God's Protection Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kelly: Beautiful Day by U2 - https://youtu.be/co6WMzDOh1o?si=FLqyZP3oc5Hy9i3u Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz(c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
Reach out to Arlina and learn more about her fantastic work:The One Day at a Time Podcast: https://odaatchat.com/The Self-Help Junkie Podcast: https://sites.libsyn.com/510253The upcoming book by Arlina Allen: A 12-Step Guide for SkepticsHappy Soul Soap & Candles: https://happysoulsoapandcandle.com/ Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendations:A.A. Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditionsA.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Find self-compassion.Song that symbolizes Recovery to Arlina: Unstoppable by Sia - https://youtu.be/cxjvTXo9WWM?si=iJSxm0iM-3xJc4KQDon’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz(c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
Reach out to Daryl Dittmer and learn more about WHEN I STOP FIGHTING: The Unexpected Joy of Getting My Head Out of My Ass:
https://www.daryldittmer.com/
daryl@daryldittmer.com
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Ten Commandments by Emitt Fox - https://a.co/d/9ILTvbb
Best piece of Recovery advice: If you want to stay sober, stay small (humble, teachable)
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Daryl: Time by Pink Floyd -https://youtu.be/JwYX52BP2Sk?si=yY666ASQ0Pxbr5Wo
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Contact Nico Morales:
LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/nicolas-morales-inspirational-speaker-52429b1a0
Instagram - instagram.com/nohalonm
Facebook - web.facebook.com/no.halo.54
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_KEGXytfh52T7fPmtZlitg
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
You Owe You: Ignite Your Power, Your Purpose, and Your Why by Eric Thomas PhD - https://a.co/d/hNNtw9d
Nico's book: Five Things To Know Before You Get Sober by Nico Morales - https://a.co/d/3YfDhjW
Best piece of Recovery advice: " No one applauds a fish for swimming."
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Nico:
Perfect Imperfection by Kevin Gates - https://youtu.be/QWZpbrU1h9A?si=0KgMATTeCtnzyXqg
Gratitude by Brandon Lake - https://youtu.be/dQdfs5S6jyA?si=HhGozA32OqI2iNlj
Recovery Resources: nohalonm.com
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Learn more about Mary Beth O’Connor and her new book From Junkie to Judge: One Woman's Triumph Over Trauma and Addiction:https://junkietojudge.com/Ace (Adverse Childhood Experience) Score - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-meanLife Ring Recovery - https://lifering.org/Rational Recovery is now Smart Recovery - https://smartrecovery.org/She Recovers - https://sherecovers.org/Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/Narcotics Anonymous - https://na.org/Best piece of Recovery (Quit-Lit) reccomendation: The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.Best piece of Recovery advice: It's OK to find your own path to RecoverySong that symbolizes Recovery to Mary Beth: Refugee by Tom Petty - https://youtu.be/fFnOfpIJL0M?si=vUW3pBH2KTdoEGIFDon’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2024 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-way-out-podcast/message
Learn more about Marci Hopkins:
Wake with Marci on WLNY-TV in New York - https://wakeupwithmarci.com/
Chaos to Clarity: Seeing The Signs and Breaking The Cycles - https://a.co/d/dotGgbA
Connecting with God Meditation Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3QQDfxwl4
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendations:
Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Daily Reflections - https://www.aa.org/daily-reflections
The Secret by Rhonda Byrne - https://a.co/d/dlD4WCS
The Law of Attraction: The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham by by Esther Hicks and Jerry Hicks
Best pieces of Recovery advice: You're not alone. You past doesn't define you. Tomorrow is a new day. No matter what is going on you can always restart you day.
You Say by Lauren Daigle - https://youtu.be/sIaT8Jl2zpI?si=Syw6RoBjAZ4vhN_L
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Reach out to Ali Shapiro Holistic Nutritionist, Host of the wildly popular Podcast insatiable, Founder and Creator of Truce with Food:
https://alishapiro.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture by Gabor Maté - https://a.co/d/cbylXv3
Nourished: Connection, Food, and Caring for Our Kids (And Everyone Else We Love) – by Deborah MacNamara PhD - https://a.co/d/dfjRm9V
Best piece of advice for folks struggling with food - Why does it makes sense?
Trust Fall by Pink - https://youtu.be/D2KE2a5qo0g?si=U4UhyJ45QojDLgla
Edge of Glory by Lady Gaga - https://youtu.be/QeWBS0JBNzQ?si=Bjdy2op3bV2YNuRk
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Founder of Bellwhether Executive Development Firm, author, podcaster, and person in long term Recovery Jim Frawley. Jim shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point and his individual pathway which on the surface may appear to be unconventional in that Jim didn’t follow any particular pathway per se nor does Jim consider himself a member of any recovery organization or group. Despite these surface level differences to those who do follow a defined recovery pathway like the 12-Steps or SMART Recovery, as is socommon among us who identify as persons in recovery, there’s far more that unites us in our shared experiences prior to Recovery and in our individual Recovery journeys. One overarching message that comes through Jim’s story is summed up in his favorite quote “It is hard to be satisfied with life, if you’re never satisfied with yourself.”. In other words, the journey starts with us and for Jim it was a process of becoming increasingly satisfied with himself so he could then create and sustain meaning and purpose in all facets of his life and ultimately experience the satisfaction of a sober life well lived so listen up.
Reach out to Jim Frawley: https://www.jimfrawley.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: This Is How by Augusten Burroughs -https://a.co/d/8xbaprG
Best pieces of Recovery advice: It's easier to have zero than just one. It is hard to be satisfied with life, if you’re never satisfied with yourself. Focus on what you can control.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jim: No Hard Feelings by The Avett Brothers -https://youtu.be/tFGs7HP15d4?si=_D4mnMl-smamrGxS
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m beyond honored to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and host of the Hopeaholics podcast, Chad Carlsen. Chad shares his truly incredible and made for TV journey to and through Recovery with us and all about what motivated him to create and host the Hopaholics Podcast, where Chad found his true calling: Helping people suffering from addiction and mental illness to get the treatment they deserve. When his soon to be son-in-law died of fentanyl poisoning, Chad’s drive to fight the opioid epidemic redoubled. The Hopeaholics is not just a podcast. It’s a movement to conquer a nation’s fentanyl-fueled addiction crisis. TheHopeaholics promote awareness about addiction and mental health, banishing stigma in the process while providing resources to addicted individuals, people struggling with mental illness, and their loved ones. We’re convinced that you’ll be moved by Chad’s recovery journey, enlightened by the serious recovery truth he shares, and inspired by the amazing work he’s doing in the Recovery community so do be sure you listen up.
Contact Chad Carlsen and learn more about Hopeaholics Podcast:
https://thehopeaholics.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: NA Basic Text - https://a.co/d/apz1AzY
Best piece of Recovery advice: Don't pick up no matter what.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Chad: Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s?si=p3k9NSGigGB4e29B
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview with certified personal trainer, model, real estate investor, and Person in long term recovery Jonathan Niziol. An additional word of caution, this episode contains subject matter that may be disturbing, including discussion of sexual assault. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call or text 988 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Jonathan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us with remarkable honesty and his story is proof positive of two truths we’ve demonstrated many times on this podcast. First, the only truebottom in addiction is when we stop digging, and we don’t need to hit proverbial rock bottom in order to achieve a meaningful, enduring and rewarding recovery. Second and of equal importance, there are many ways to recover, and they are all worth elevating and celebrating, like the therapeutic pathway of Recovery Jonathan followed so listen up.
Contact Jonathan:
https://www.jonathanniziolofficial.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: How to Win Friends & Influence by Dale Carnegie - https://a.co/d/63VR0yo
Best piece of Recovery advice: Focus on the positive!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jonathan: Enjoy the Silence by Depeche Mode - https://youtu.be/aGSKrC7dGcY?si=URdyZH-8i1tsNxGX
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Sober Coach, Podcaster, Researcher, Author, and person in long term sobriety Duncan Bhaskaran Brown. Duncan shares a bit about his journey to and through sobriety with us and a whole lot about how he helps folks reckon with their relationship with alcohol and other substances and behaviors and ultimately move through them to experience all that life can be on the otherside of a life that includes problematic substance use and problematic and counterproductive behavior patterns. Duncan does a tremendous job of calling out alcohol specifically for what it is, a known carcinogen, toxin and central nervous depressant. We are not anti-alcohol crusaders here on The Way Out Podcast, rather we aim to illuminate the spectrum that substance use and abuse exists on, and elevate all of the pathways we possibly can to help you Recover and indeed discover the person and life that is waiting for you on the brighter side so listen up.
Reach out to Duncan:
https://www.bhaskaranbrown.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: Real Men Quit by Duncan Bhaskaran Brown - https://www.bhaskaranbrown.com/duncan-bhaskaran-brown-books/
Best piece of Recovery advice: Self-Acceptance: Meet yourself where you are.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Duncan: Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s?si=rmOG1Vmiw31vz_JG
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with husband, father, person in long term recovery and Author of the book Finding Myself Sober, Dean Anderson. Dean shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with us with genuine humor, humility and an unmistakable wisdom that can only come from doing the work and practicing certain recovery principles on a daily basis. Dean’s story is proof positive alcoholism and addiction doesn’t discriminate. As we demonstrate often on this podcast, having an idyllic childhood is no guarantee against developing alcohol or substance use disorder despite the high prevalence of trauma and mental health disorders among those ofus who identify as persons in Recovery. Dean’s story and his book bring to light key Recovery principles that underlay the 12-Step program of Recovery that are in fact universally applicable to all of us whom are looking for a practical way to implement positive change in our lives as we progress in our individual recovery so listen up.
Learn more about Finding Myself Sober by Dean S Anderson: https://a.co/d/4AZB7xz
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Shack by William P. Young - https://a.co/d/ck6jHtb
Best piece of Recovery advice: Get in the middle of the Recovery Herd
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dean: Waiting for my real life to begin by Colin Hay - https://youtu.be/wQBHPn9sDfY?si=6bR8jy1H4s0-GK7R
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In this rendition of The Way out Co-host Jason sits down with person in long term Recovery, Greg Greene. An additional word of caution, this episode contains subject matter that may be disturbing, including graphic discussion of drug use and suicide. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call or text 988 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Greg shares his story with us from a very open and vulnerable place. A former IV meth user, stints in jails andprisons, and a suicide attempt survivor, he pulls no punches in his sharing, and he even got Jason to share some pretty hard stuff for anyone admit on the air. Indeed, it was a fine opportunity for a couple of men in Recovery to connect and get gut level honest about how some things affected their mental health, as well as how drugs diminished their moral code. As Jason said about this interview and I quote: “I don't know the last time I said ‘you're telling my story’ to someone so many times!” We hope you come along for the ride as we get to know Greg and see how far he has come on his recovery journey and we’re convinced you'll be glad you did so listen up.
Contact Info: Greenegreg42@gmail.com
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: You got two ears and one mouth for a reason.
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Wisdom for the Way, Large TextLeathersoft: 365 Days of Wise Words for Busy People: Swindoll, Charles R.:9781400231782: Amazon.com: Books
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Greg: Jamey Johnson - High Cost of Living -Music Video - Clifton Collins Jr. - YouTube
Additional Resources: Life Recovery Ministry at Northstar | Facebook
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with actor, producer and author of the new Memoir The Brink, Jaime Andrews. The Brink is a tale so compelling, immersive, and captivating that it couldn’t be anything other than 100% true. This extraordinary coming of age story of one Jaime Andrews is at once hilarious and harrowing, and it will have you racing to reach the stunning climax and finale. I couldn’t help feeling like it was as if I was experiencing every moment right along with her! As absorbing as thisbook is, what’s even more impressive is her story’s power to connect with readers who may be having or had similar experience and feel like they’re not alone in their experience and Recovery is not only possible but absolutely worth it. The Brink is a worthwhile read in every sense of the word and this here episode is worth every bit of your time and attention so do be sure you listen up.
More about Jaime Andrews: http://www.jaimeandrews.com/
Learn more about The Brink: a memoir by Jaime Andrews: https://a.co/d/1dSCjkQ
More about Hypnotherapy: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/22676-hypnosis
Book Recommendation: The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoyevsky - https://a.co/d/8jA1T7S
Best piece of advice: Be kind to yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Jamie: Girl Least Likely To by Morrissey - https://youtu.be/EFqOpkBRLDs?si=SKwT6pRjhqQ7yR1I
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In this edition of The Way Out, Cohost extraordinaire Jason has a tremendous interview with an amazing new podcaster, and all around great human being, Kristine Koehn from the Purpose Driven Sobriety Podcast. Kristine is hilarious and charming in her heartfelt delivery sharing her story with us. This episode oozes with recovery wisdom and spiritual truths, and the connection and chemistry Jason and Kristine share is a recipe for an enjoyable and enlightening listening experience, we know you will surely appreciate just as much as we appreciate your ears. So do be sure you listen up.
Contact Kristine at purposedrivensobriety@gmail.com
Resources: Purpose Driven Sobriety - Rogue Media Network
Donate to Operation Sober Santa at Amazon Gift List
Recovery literature (Quit-lit) reccomendation: God on a Harley: Brady, Joan: 9780671536220: Amazon.com: Books
Best piece of recovery advice: " It's not about you."
Song that symbolizes recovery to Kristine- Rascal Flatts - Changed (Official Video) - YouTube
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Sober Living Coach and person in long term recovery, Halima Anderson. Halima shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us with an infectious humor and frankness that is both relatable and inspiring. A case in point is Halima’s willingness to share that she identifies as a Highly Sensitive Person, which based on my experience on this here podcast is not an uncommon occurrence with those of us who are in Recovery, and understanding this about ourselves can be helpful in understanding why we may feel emotions so intensely, and understand, just like with our addictions, we don’t have to be alone in that experience anymore if we don’t want to and we can in fact turn it into a real asset if we so choose. Halima is proof positive that there’s more than one way to recover and that our collective recoveries have much more common than we may realize so listen up.
Contact Halima:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/halimaranderson
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendation: This Naked Mind by Annie Grace - https://thisnakedmind.com/
Best piece of Recovery advice: Ask for help
More information about the Highly Sensitive Person:
https://hsperson.com/
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Halima: It's a beautiful Morning by The Rascals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykLVZR7RG_w
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with Recovery Advocate and Author of the soon to be released book entitled Slow Dancing with the Devil: A Son's Substance Use Disorder, A Mother's Anguish, Susan Bartz Herrick. I’ve learned that often in life less is more, and this is one of those times. Susan’s message that Substance UseDisorder is not a moral failing, it’s a legitimate and diagnosable disease and Recovery is absolutely possible comes through in such powerful and enlightening fashion that anything I could say on the front end would only serve to diminish her quite salient, much needed, and incredibly well articulated message. So without further ado, Susan shares her and her son’s journey with substance use disorder and recovery, including the heartbreaking death of her Son, who was under no uncertain terms, poisoned as you’ll hear firsthand in the compelling and necessary Recovery discussion that is about to unfold before your very ears so do be sure you listen up.
Learn more about Slow Dancing with the Devil: A Son's Substance Use Disorder, A Mother's Anguish:
https://www.susanbartzherrick.com/
https://a.co/d/631AWX3
Best piece of Recovery advice: 3 C's You did not cause it, You cannot control it, and You cannot cure it.
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Susan: What a Wonderful World by Louis Armstrong - https://youtu.be/rBrd_3VMC3c?si=V_aHi3KmYLCtIgPA
Codependency resources:
https://coda.org/
https://al-anon.org/
https://www.nar-anon.org/
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In this edition of The Way Out, Co-host extraordinaire Jason brings us a tremendous interview with person in long term recovery Tim Lodgen.Tim works with a number of greatrecovery organizations and has a story that reminds us that the disease of addiction does not discriminate! By all accounts he should have never ended up with substance use disorder. But it took him into his own personal hell and tore him all the way down. Today, Tim is an international speaker, advocating for PTSD, mental health, and addiction awareness! There’s no doubt you all will appreciate his story, as he tells it so eloquently. The vulnerability and strength come through in a powerful way and we’re so grateful that Tim took the time to share his story on this here episode that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Tim on Instagram - @tlodgen
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Drop the Rock: Removing CharacterDefects - Steps Six and Seven: P., Bill, Todd Weber, S., Sara: 9781592851614:Amazon.com: Books
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "You don't know your true value in this world. You are worth more than you could possibly imagine!"
Songs that symbolize recovery to Tim:
Tom MacDonald - "Fighter" - YouTube
Justin Bieber - Purpose (PURPOSE : The Movement) (Official Music Video) - YouTube
Nonprofits/resources:
The Overwatch Collective | 501(c)(3) Nonprofit & Podcast
loveandlighttotheworld.org
hopeshorizon.com
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored and humbled to bring you my interview with Certified peer recovery specialist, Certified Peer specialist, forensic peer support specialist, Host of the Rise up Hour at WFNU Frogtown Radio, WRAP One facilitator, person in long term recovery, and my friend and brother in Recovery Muhannah Kakish. Muhannah sincerely, openly, and unflinchingly delivers us his journey to and through Recovery to this point and his accompanying message that Recovery from substance use disorder and compulsive gambling is possible and totally and utterly worth it. An additional word of warning, this episode contains discussions of sexual violence, self-harm and suicide. If you or a loved one are experiencing a mental health crisis, please call or text 988. One of the most instructive elements of Muhannah’s story is his experience with compulsive gambling after being in Recovery from substance use disorder for a considerable length of time. Many of us have or may encounter a problem with another substance or behavior, whether that be a substance use disorder with any variety of substances or a behavior like problem gambling. My own recovery has been a process by which I first eliminated alcohol and other mood-altering substances, then, and not right away, I eliminated nicotine, then, and also notright away, I reckoned with my unhealthy relationship with food and the evolutionwill surely continue as others surface or resurface. It can be extremely difficult to address these, especially if we are in Recovery already from something else as feelings of shame can arise as we feel like we’re not being honest and authentic in our Recovery. Muhanna’s Recovery journey is proof positive there need be no shame in experiencing secondary, cooccurring, or subsequent dependencies and that when we address them as they present themselves we can experience greater freedom, greater love of ourselves and others and bask in and radiate increasingly brighter light so listen up.
Contact Muhannah:
Riseuphour@gmail.com
Minnesota Alliance on Problem Gambling:
https://mnapg.org/
WFNU Frogtown Radio:
https://wfnu.org/
Rise up Hour:
https://spinitron.com/WFNU/pl/18014248/Rise-Up-Hour-with-Muhannah-Kakish?layout=1
Mankind Project:
https://mkpusa.org/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Twelve Stepsand Twelve Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Best piece of Recovery advice: Forgive yourself
Calum Scott - Dancing on My Own: https://youtu.be/q31tGyBJhRY?si=JkB5jTTSDEmpCd-_
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In this rendition of The Way Out, I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with two persons in long term recovery and the co-founders of Recess Games, Alex Peacock and Nolan Wright. The mission of Recess Games is to pair those in the community with people in recovery who are seeking healthy avenues to have good clean fun while building a meaningful and purposeful life. The mission of Recess Games is near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out, as we know how essential connection, community, purpose, and fun are to promotingmeaningful and sustainable Recovery. Nolan and Alex each share their respective journeys to and through Recovery to this point with us in the inspirational and candid fashion, which is just the way we like roll here on The Way Out Podcast. Their respective experiences both prior to and in Recovery share much in common and perhaps most instructive is what is unique about their experiences as they entered and traversed their early Recovery. Nolan had a spectacular spiritual experience followed by a profound conviction to do whatever it takes to Recover. Alex experienced a far more gradual awakening, and in the beginning didn’t especially want to even be in Recovery, but the more distance he put betweenhim and his last use the more he found himself changing and truly wanting Recovery. Each no less powerful and each no less meaningful than the other, both just transformational, both just as meaningful, and both proof positive that Recovery is not just possible, but unquestionably worthwhile especially if you’re having a lot of fun along the way which is unquestionably what Nolan, myself, and Alex had in the tremendous recovery discussion that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Learn more about Recess Games:
https://www.recessgamesusa.com/
Nolan Wright Closing Answers:
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best pieces of Recovery advice: Do not think, Recovery IS purpose.
Podcast Recommendations: David Goggins Podcast | Joe Rogan Podcast
Alex Peacock Closing Answers:
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: NA Workbook - https://gssana.org/books/na-step-working-guide.pdf
Best pieces of Recovery advice: One day at a time, this too shall pass.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Alex: Wiki & Subjxct 5 - One More Chance (feat. Navy Blue) - https://youtu.be/SZRoRZ0oTB0?si=jA67HZshPLinHNnu
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor, person in long term recovery and author of several books on addiction and recovery including his newest offering, Mommy's Getting Sober: A children's picture book that also includes a caregiver's guide to talking to kids about addiction Casey Arrillaga. Casey shared his journey to and through recovery in greater depth and about his prior book on an earlier episode of The Way Out, which turned out to be a phenomenal interview so do check the show notes for a handy link to the aforementioned episode. Casey’s newest addition to his recovery literature repertoire fills two important gaps in the quit-lit space. First, it’s a children’s picture book with an accompanying caregiver’s guide that aims, as Casey so eloquently puts it, to aid families in interrupting harmful generational patterns resulting from addiction and alcoholism. Secondand as impactful, is that the book aims to create empathy between the caregivers journey in Recovery and Child’s journey so each can have a better understanding of what the other is going through, and lends helpful vocabulary to articulate their respective experiences to each other. It will indeed then be no surprise that this here interview with the one and only Casey Arrillaga is is a particularly articulate discussion on the often thorny and unchartedterritory that is family life in Recovery so listen up.
Contact Casey and learn more about Mommy's Getting Sober: A children's picture book that also includes a caregiver's guide to talking to kids about addiction:
https://www.recoverytreemedia.com/
Casey's first episode on The Way Out Podcast:
https://open.spotify.com/show/4bUTtUcvg0dA4wSTYPjJlx
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendation: AA Big Book: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep coming Back.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Casey: Stronger Than We Thought We Could Be by Third Door Down: https://open.spotify.com/track/1LwCaXyTHlVf89lwI3V0js?si=9c218a71a8b3443e.
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Podcast Host, Sober Coach and Author of Sober Vibes: A Guide to Thriving in Your First Three Months Without Alcohol, Courtney Andersen. Courtney shares her journey to and through Recovery to this point with us in inspiring fashion, which makes sense for a woman who hosts a recovery podcast, wrote a recovery book and started the national sober day movement. Courtney’s book fills a key gap in the quit-lit space in that it focuses on the first 90 days of sobriety, a critical time for anyone who’s beginning their sobriety journey. Her book is very much a field guide and how to manual for your first 90 days, which is all about action, and action my fellow brothers and sisters is what gets us and keeps us sober and of equal importance, well. Actions saved my life in the beginning and keeps me well today, not my brain which was sabotaging me for far too long. One action I know you’ll be glad you took is listening to this tremendous interview with the one and only Courtney Anderson so listen up.
Reach out to Courtney Andersen and learn more about the Sober Vibes Podcast and the book Sober Vibes: A Guide to Thriving in Your First Three Months Without Alcohol:
https://pagestreetpublishing-dot-yamm-track.appspot.com/2ZAyj7fCN6h3rDlEMMnHrOFTc7CHBWEEypzTT t0HQAj20HS1iAFzKOFYceDJZDQRvnKSdF43DRIry7jKOyX68HlmuPIVQjBPiOuPtP6pC4tniwRzYsvfukuDAua-oYyGIvY8C5giHNkdAS423XY8raOPdyCCWIX9mpVJ_nUEGvxUxQXU1SZKOt81c6p4embyQkbI
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Advice Do what works for you.
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Drinking: A love Affair by Caroline Knapp - https://a.co/d/4E46n1s
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Courtney: Purple Rain by Prince - https://youtu.be/ryT-ltTDCko?si=_tzPU2_YyM8dA6AT
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with engineer, husband, brother, son, Person in long term recovery, and Author of the book Clean: the (mis)adventures of an alcoholic drug addict, Michael Rebellino. Michael shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with us in humble and honest fashion and about the aforementioned book he authored which offers readers insight into the pain and struggle that is addiction and alcoholism and hope that Recovery is not just possible, it’s absolutely worth it. Micheal’s message to readers is this: Whoever you are and whatever you’re going through, you’re not alone. And there is hope. There is always hope. He truly believes if his story helps even just one person see that and believe that, it’ll all be worth it. Similarly, this here interview with Michael Rebellino is worth every second of your time so listenup.
Contact Michael and learn more about Clean: the (mis)adventures of an alcoholic drug addict:
https://www.michaelrebellino.com/books
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Embrace the process.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Michael: Dan Black - Symphonies ft. Kid Cudi - https://youtu.be/uWWG75lLemA?si=Z4G-N16BX7BwhoWb
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In this edition of The Way Out returning contributor NickWarnke, myself and cohost Jason bring you an illuminating and instructive discussion on Shadow Work in Recovery. A quick note about the subject matter and content of this episode. Specifically, some specific memories about childhood sexual trauma were discussed. I edited out some of the most graphic content, for everyone’s protection as one of the specific memories evoked wasmine and Jason shared a memory of his own. The memory I shared has been on my heart and mind of late, which is coming up in a season of significant change for your truly. Still please be advised this episode does contain some brief descriptions of sexual trauma. There’s a whole lot else in this episode including a great explainer of what Shadow Work is, why it’s helpful for us in Recovery, our personal experiences around Shadow Work in our individual recoveries, and some practical information about how to start your own Shadow Work journey so listen up.
Shadow Work Resources:
HealthyLove Group
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/shadow-work/
Books on The Shadow and Jungian Psychology:
"Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche" by Robert A. Johnson: This book provides an accessible introduction to the concept of the Shadow and practical guidance on how to work with it.
"Meeting the Shadow: The Hidden Power of the Dark Side of Human Nature" edited byConnie Zweig and Jeremiah Abrams: A compilation of essays exploring the Shadowfrom various perspectives, including its impact on personal growth and relationships.
"Jung: A Very Short Introduction" by Anthony Stevens: A concise overview of Jung's key concepts, including the Shadow, providing a solid foundation for understanding his contributions to psychology.
"Man and His Symbols" by Carl G. Jung: This is a collaborative work by Jung and others, offering insights into the symbolism of dreams and the human psyche, including the Shadow.
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and loyal listener of this podcast, CC. CC shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with us with an enthusiasm and candor that’s as relatable as it is inspiring. As most of you well know by now, we here at The Way Out Podcast are tirelessadvocates that all pathways to Recovery are valid and worth elevating. CC recovered through Smart Recovery, which as we learn has many parallels to the 12 Steps and indeed other recovery pathways. One of the biggest recovery truths that came out of CC’s recovery story is that in many ways we have a relationship with our substance of choice, one that in one way or another starts out at least in part beneficially. Maybe we like the way we feel when we use it better than when we don’t. Maybe it numbed emotional or physical pain orboth. For some, like yours truly and certainly CC and maybe you too, the relationship turns toxic and the pain and suffering it inflicts upon us becomes increasingly greater than any benefit we are able to derive from using the substance or engaging in the addictive behavior. As instructive is CC’s mantra that we indeed have a choice not to drink today, a choice to live in recovery today, a choice to live happy, joyous and free – just like CC has chosen to doas you’ll hear first hand in the tremendous discussion that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
CC's 3 Year Reddit Post: https://reddit.com/r/SMARTRecovery/s/jvK83pvOH7
Smart Recovery Subreddit: https://reddit.com/r/SMARTRecovery/s/knaJIHBdVa
More information on Smart Recovery: https://www.smartrecovery.org/
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendation: Smart Recovery Handbook version 3https://shop.smartrecovery.org/products/smart-recovery-handbook-3rd-edition-new-cover
Best piece of Recovery advice: You alone can do it but you can't do it alone.
Songs that symbolize Recovery to CC:
Life to fix by the Record Company https://youtu.be/vAYmEhwjiKg?si=U3rAwiZJT2m10ryj
Standing in the Eyes of the World by Ella https://youtu.be/2KFeUCOGZ2Y?si=BlmUeW4Q_EReCKZa
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Person in long term recovery, Sober Mom Advocate, writer, and Certified Recovery Coach Celeste Yvonne. As a certified recovery coach, Celeste works with women around the world who want to connect the dots between motherhood and self-fulfillment; exploring all that awaits when we seek a better way. Celeste shares her journey to and through Recovery to this pointwith us with the candor and wisdom that is without question the result of the hard work she’s put into her Recovery. A Recovery that has been at once imperfect and beautiful, full of struggle, success, pain, healing, joy, and true growth as a Sober Mom who reckoned with her own relationship with alcohol and now Recovers Out Loud and helps other Moms Reckon with their own relationship with alcohol and get on a path of sobriety and overall wellness so listen up.
Contact Celeste Yvonne and learn more about her new book It's Not About the Wine: Why moms use alcohol to manage burnout and how to break free:
Official site: www.celesteyvonne.com
Facebook: @theultimatemomchallenge
Instagram: @theultimatemomchallenge
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: This Naked Mind by Annie Grace - https://www.amazon.com/This-Naked-Mind-Discover-Happiness-ebook/dp/B077VTJC8P
Best piece of Recovery Advice: You didn't come this far only to come this far.
Song that symbolizes Recovery for Celeste: This is me trying by Taylor Swift: https://youtu.be/9bdLTPNrlEg?si=FfqJSF-p3NttXchv
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond excited to bring you my interview with Person in long term Recovery and Chief Operating Officer of Wellness in the Woods, Dan L. Dan shares his on his journey to and through recovery to this point, about the great work Wellness in the Woods and Recovery in the Woods is doing in the Recovery Community in Minnesota, including but not limited to a peer support warm line, virtual peer support, and Recovery in the Woods meetings all facilitated and ran by people with lived experience witheither mental health diagnoses, substance use disorder, or both. These services fill a critical space in the continuum of wellness and recovery services that are not addressed by formal substance use disorder treatment organizations, otherwise known as treatment centers and exists along side mutual aid groups like 12 Step & Smart Recovery meetings. Dan also shares about the pathways and tools that were and continue to be instrumental in his Recovery, not the least of which is WRAP or Wellness Recovery Action Plan. I am an unabashed and enormous fan of the work the great folks at Wellness in the Woods are doing, and I have asneaking suspicion you all will be too once you hear the tremendous interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Learn more about Wellness in the Woods and Recovery in the Woods:
https://mnwitw.org/
Warm Line - https://mnwitw.org/mnwarmline
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Wellness Recovery Action Plan - https://mnwitw.org/wrap
Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol S. S. Dweck- https://a.co/d/0C0C37I
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Take what you need/want and leave the rest.
Song that Symbolizes Recovery to Dan: Rise Up by Andra Day - https://youtu.be/lwgr_IMeEgA?si=rr3m1c3551iz0rC1
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview person in long term recovery, yoga teacher, and Author of the soon to be released book "Recovery with Yoga: Supportive Practices to Transcend Addiction" Brian Hyman. Brian shares his journey to and through Recovery tothis point with us in an extremely instructive and relatable way with an emphasis on the pathways and practices that launched and continues to be the foundation of his recovery, specifically working the 12-Steps and Yoga. Perhaps one of the most poignant quotes extolled by Brian in our discussion is when he said, “I did all the things that were suggested because it was time to save my life”. I relate to that sentiment in the most intimate way, and I bet many of you do too. There is so much recovery and spiritual wisdom in the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears that I know you all are just going to enjoy the living heck out of it so I’m going to do you all a favor and shut my yapper and let my discussion with the one and only Brian Hyman rip. Without further delay I give you my all killer no filler discussion with Brian Hyman, so listen up.
Reach out to Brian Hyman, author of the new book "Recovery with Yoga: Supportive Practices to Transcend Addiction" which will be released in 2024:
https://www.brianhymanyoga.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Peace Is Every Step: The Path of Mindfulness in Everyday Life by Thich Nhat Hanh:
https://www.amazon.com/Peace-Every-Step-Mindfulness-Everyday/dp/0553351397
Best piece of Recovery advice: Get out of your own way
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Brian: "Rise up": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoHGESoZT4
Bonus: She gets the GOLDEN BUZZER for singing this song!
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In this rendition of The Way Out co-host Jason and I, along with person in long term recovery and past guest of The Way Out Nick Warnke tackle a whopper of a Recovery Power Topic, Relationships and Recovery. As we mention in the discussion to follow, we did an episode on relationships in recovery, episode 114, back in December of 2018. Now five years later we’re taking a fresh look at this subject in a very different light from three people in long term recovery in unique current situations regarding our relationship statuses. Jason is in a romantic relationship and has been for more than three years. As he says it’s not perfect, but it’s a good relationship, so good in fact he’s engaged to be married. Jason, bless his heart, was the perfect person to balance out the yin and yang of where Nick and I are at with our relationships. I just got out of a serious, long term 5-year relationship, my first relationship in Recovery and in many ways it felt like a first for many reasons. What was also a first for me, is that this time I knew I didn’t have to revert to counterproductive thought and behavior patterns like self-sabotage, isolating, retaliation, and controlling behavior – and I didn’t – and as a result, I didn’t harm myself or her or my son and I was able to walk away from the relationship hurting but without causing additional and unnecessary harm, and that my friends is growth. Nick, is in the uncertain and ambiguous middle where he is very unsure of the status of his current relationship, and as many of us can relate, uncertainty strikes at the very core of our desire to control people, places and things and can be most difficult to endure for any length of time. Nick even shares with us his ayahuasca experience, which was amazing indeed. We all get real about where we’re at with our romantic relationships and we also broaden out the discussion and discuss the importance of our relationships with our respective Higher Powers, the ever-important relationship with ourselves, and our important relationships with other people both romantic and otherwise and how important these relationships are in our individual Recovery journeys so listen up.
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m most excited about bringing you my interview with Person in Long Term Recovery and Director of Most High Ministries, Christian Janson. Christian shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us, with a keen insight on addiction and recovery and an emphasis on the growth and evolution that is a direct result of doing the work that meaningful and enduring recovery demands. Christian is ever mindful of the person who is still suffering, and tailors his message as such which we here at The Way Out Podcast are big believers in, that when sharing our stories, the person who still suffers both in and out of Recovery often have the most to gain from our story. Christian’s story is most definitely chalked full of spiritual and recovery truth, and the most wonderful things that have manifested as a result of his most amazing Recovery like the work he does with Most High Media so listen up.
Reach Out to Reverend Christian Janson and learn more about Most High Media:
https://mosthighmedia.org/
Coaching Scholarship Info:
https://mosthighmedia.org/coaching/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
12 Steps 12 Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Codependents' Guide to the 12 Steps by Melody Beattie - https://www.amazon.com/Codependents-Guide-Twelve-Melody-Beattie/dp/0671762273
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Be gentle with yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Christian:
Go Out Tonight Mansion Boys - https://youtu.be/vE8gX4v70bI?si=9CIDJ4YycdtHL0-J
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m most excited about bringing you my interview with Person in Long Term Recovery and Director of Most High Ministries, Christian Janson. Christian shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us, with a keen insight on addiction and recovery and an emphasis on the growth and evolution that is a direct result of doing the work that meaningful and enduring recovery demands. Christian is ever mindful of the person who is still suffering, and tailors his message as such which we here at The Way Out Podcast are big believers in, that when sharing our stories, the person who still suffers both in and out of Recovery often have the most to gain from our story. Christian’s story is most definitely chalked full of spiritual and recovery truth, and the most wonderful things that have manifested as a result of his most amazing Recovery like the work he does with Most High Media so listen up.
Reach Out to Reverend Christian Janson and learn more about Most High Media:
https://mosthighmedia.org/
Coaching Scholarship Info:
https://mosthighmedia.org/coaching/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
12 Steps 12 Traditions - https://www.aa.org/twelve-steps-twelve-traditions
Codependents' Guide to the 12 Steps by Melody Beattie - https://www.amazon.com/Codependents-Guide-Twelve-Melody-Beattie/dp/0671762273
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Be gentle with yourself
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Christian:
Go Out Tonight Mansion Boys - https://youtu.be/vE8gX4v70bI?si=9CIDJ4YycdtHL0-J
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Person in Long Term Recovery and Ultra Marathon Swimmer Ben Tuff. Ben shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with and about his new documentary, Swim Tuff: How I Swam My Way Out of a Bottle and about his work with Clean Ocean Access as well. The epic swim the documentary centers around is also a perfect metaphor for his Recovery and I dare say recovery at large for a variety of reasons, perhaps most strikingly is the fact that Ben literally didn’t even know how to swim upon entering Recovery and now he’s swimming ultra marathons. Just like in Recovery, where we have no idea how to live a meaningful life without addictive substances and/or behaviors, but if we put in the work and are willing to learn, make mistakes, persevere through adversity, connect to ourselves, our spirituality and others we can achieve meaningful and enduring recovery and have opportunities to help others by Recovering Out Loud like Ben does on this here episode so listen up.
Contact Ben Tuff and learn more about Swim Tuff: How I Swam My Way Out of a Bottle:
https://swimtuff.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Mindful Art of Swimming by Tessa Wardley:
https://www.amazon.com/Mindful-Art-Wild-Swimming-Reflections/dp/1782404295
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Stay in your own hula hoop.
Take me to the ocean by The Movement: https://youtu.be/TPzGl3LFbak?si=YNqoEWfXvLOIuRp0
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In this edition of The Way Out cohost extraordinaire Jason had the pleasure of interviewing person in long term recovery, Deryl Glaze. Deryl is an Inspirational Addiction and Recovery Expert and Speaker, Motivational Coach, and Ordained Minister. Over the last twenty years interacting with recovering addicts and substance abusers in a variety of capacities, Deryl observed that the ones who didn't have any dreams, any "Big Whys" beyond abstinence, were far more likely to relapse or have a recurrence of their substance use disorder, than those who did. As a result Deryl developed a workshop to help those who are in Recovery find purpose or their “Big Why’s”. Now Deryl speaks, runs workshops, and is the Head Certified Recovery Coach at Minnesota Adult and Teen Challenge. No matter what hat he's wearing, his message is that many folks find they need a goal bigger than merely abstinence to motivate themselves achieve meaningful and enduring recovery. You don't want to miss the tremendous message Deryl has for you, so listen up.
Contact Deryl:
Motivational Speaker in Addiction/Recovery Field | Daryl Glaze (derylglaze.com)
Additional Resource: Minnesota Substance Abuse Treatment & Recovery Center - https://www.mntc.org/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Book recommendation:
The Heart of Recovery: How Compassion and Community Offer Hope in the Wake of Addiction by David Beddoe and Deborah Beddoe - https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Recovery-Compassion-Community-Addiction/dp/0800736559
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: "What you do is not who you are. What you practice is what you become."
Song that symbolizes recovery to Deryl: There is a King In You by Donald Lawrence https://youtu.be/oxZBXdLplag
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In this rendition of the Way Out I’m extremely excited to bring you my interview with person in long term Recovery and Producer and founder of Global Domination Productions Alex “King Roach” Montanez. Alex has been Recovering Out Loud with his Blog, Dominate the Glob since his Recovery began over a year ago and now he’s Recovering Out Loud with us by sharing his journey to and through recovery to this point with us in a distinctly frank and compelling manner, and in a way that brings in stark relief hallmarks of addiction and alcoholism that are worth highlighting. Of particular import, is the common feature of active addiction that can be described as bargaining with ourselves, which we’ve discussed more than a time or two on this podcast. This is the act of restricting or changing the amount, frequency, type, environment, or manner of the problematic substance or behavior, which and this is key, invariably fails. As important to understand, is that we don’t have to do this with other things we like, but don’t have a problem with. It’s the difference between liking strawberries, and being addicted to alcohol. As instructive in Alex’s story is the manifestation of his Ego and how inextricably linked it was to his alcoholism. As he describes it, and so many of us can relate, alcohol was the key ingredient in perpetuating the persona he felt he needed to maintain, and without it, he was not able to be the person he wanted to be, and alcohol at the same time was destroying Alex and everything he held dear, which led to a crisis that ultimately produced perhaps an unlikely and most definitely an inspiring Recovery. An imperfect recovery that’s a work in progress, but one that is proof positive that Recovery is worth every bit of effort we put in, and this phenomenal interview is worth every minute of your time so do be sure you listen up.
Contact Alex King Roach Montanez and learn more about Dominate the Globe:
https://dominatetheglobe.com/
Best piece of Recovery Advice - Stop getting in your own way
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Alex – Alcohol by King Roach:
https://youtu.be/XQwM9cLEIeI
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely delighted to bring you my interview with fellow Recovery Podcaster and person in long term Recovery, Gary Menkes. Gary Recovers Out Loud with us and shares his journey to and through recovery with the remarkable insight and candor that only comes from a person that has experienced the depths of despair that alcoholism and addiction can bring, followed by an enlightening and inspiring recovery. A recovery that was not linear, and indeed imperfect, which makes it all the more inspirational. Equally as inspiring, is Gary’s decision to help others Recover Out Loud with The Begin Again Podcast, of which our amazing cohost Jason and I were able to be on recently, and the episode featuring Jason and I is now available for your listening pleasure, a handy link to that episode is in the show notes for your convenience so give it a listen, won’t you? We bet you won’t be able to stop there, as Gary is already doing great work with The Begin Again Podcast. Gary’s message is that if you’re struggling with addiction, alcoholism, or any variety of substance use disorder, is this: You’re not alone, and you don’t have to live the way you’re living anymore if you don’t want to. You can have a life you don’t feel compelled to escape, one with purpose, serenity, joy, and love. I do believe that after you’re done listening to the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears, that you all will be as big of fans of Gary Menkes as we here at The Way Out Podcast are so listen up.
Contact Gary and check out The Begin Again Podcast:
https://thebeginagainpodcast.com
The Episode featuring Jason & Charlie:
https://thebeginagainpodcast.com/2023/08/04/ep-4-the-gift-of-surrender-healing-and-hope-with-charlie-and-jason/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The AA Big Book: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Drop the Rock by Bill P.: https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/6666?Drop-the-Rock-Second-Edition
Best pieces of Recovery advice: Don't drink and go to meetings, find people who have what you want, find a sponsor, get a service commitment.
Song that symbolizes Recoveyr to Gary: Simple Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd - https://youtu.be/8eNoms9wsGc
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In this installment of The Way Out, our tremendous Recovery Podcast Co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with author and humanitarian Sandra Lee, who shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us. Sandra is the author of the book Rockstar Resilience and also started a speaking team called Rockstar Testimonies which travels around the country speaking to schools about addiction and recovery. In addition, Sandra is the founder of the #LightItUpProject which is an awareness campaign that aims to reduce the stigma around mental health, and she’s is doing so much more, soon to come. In the interview that’s about to unfold before your very years, you’ll quickly hear how well Jason and Sandra hit it off right away and ended up having a lot of laughs! We bet You'll love Sandra and her passion for helping others, so listen up.
Sandra Lee’s Contact Info: www.sandraleespeaks.com
Love and Light to the World non-profit: www.loveandlighttotheworld.org
Book recommendation: Boundaries Updated and Expanded Edition: When to Say Yes, How to Say No To Take Control of Your Life by Henry Cloud - https://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-Updated Expanded-When-Control-ebook/dp/B06XFKNB2Y
Best piece of Recovery advice: " If you lead with your heart, and you stay authentic in every single thing you do, you'll be successful."
Song: Fight Song by Rachel Platten: https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m beyond honored to bring you my interview with President of Operations of South Metro Community Services and person in long-term recovery, Ashlee Herget. South Metro Community Services, is a 501 (C3) Nonprofit Recovery Community Organization. They strive to connect individuals with substance use disorder to vital resources tailored to each persons unique needs, and they fight to empower autonomy and decrease stigma. Ashlee shares a bit about her journey to and through recovery this point, and if you you’d like to hear her entire story, I highly encourage you to check out episode 184 for Co-host Jason’s outstanding interview with Ashlee, both of whom I am a complete and unabashed fan. What makes up the lion’s share of what turned out to be a truly stellar discussion is illuminating what a Recovery Community Organization or RCO is, how they fit into the Recovery services landscape, what specific services South Metro Community Services provides the Recovery community, and perhaps most importantly why it all matters. At their core, RCO’s fill a crucial gap in the recovery services landscape, specifically addressing the needs of individuals with substance use disorder that are not addressed by the treatment industry. Often this happens before treatment, such as to help get folks into treatment or after folks leave treatment but RCO’s provide services at any point in a persons recovery journey. To invoke Ashlee’s analogy that she uses to explain what an RCO is, South Metro Community Services serves as a vital bridge for those with substance use disorder with services like Peer Recovery Coaching, Tattoo Removal, and a clothing boutique, all at no cost along with community services like Naloxone training. Whether you find yourself in place where you could benefit from services like these or you in a position where you can support the tremendous work South Metro Community Services, you won’t want to miss a minute of the phenomenal Recovery rap session with the one and only Ashlee Herget that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Connect with South Metro Community Services:
Phone: 952-955-9399
https://smcsmn.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100077939390428
Instagram: smcs.recovery
Titok: smcs.recovery
Song that symbolizes the work Ashlee does with SMCS:
What it do by E-Dubble - https://youtu.be/MlfzZHeHBUI
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Believe in yourself, dream bigger!
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In this edition of The Way Out our intrepid and outstanding recovery podcast co-host Jason had the opportunity to interview Sheilah, aka, "She She" Powell, who has the ability make one feel like bit of a slacker. She does more volunteering than your average single mom. This multi-talented momma is busting her behind to advocate for the recovery community both locally and around the world. Sheilah shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with in a candid discussion that traverses a myriad of deep, profound, and indeed inspiring topics! We bet you won’t regret hearing all the recovery wisdom and truth about to be unfurled in the tremendous recovery rap session that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact info: sheelah777@gmail.com
Resource links:
WEConnect Health Management https://www.weconnecthealth.io/
Mainstream Recovery
https://www.mainstreamrecovery.com
Mobilize Recovery
https://mobilizerecovery.org/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Broken Open: How Difficult Times Can Help Us Grow by Elizabeth Lesser:
https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Open-Difficult-Times-Help/dp/0375759913
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Transparency is always the best."
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Sheilah: Chandelier by Sia: https://youtu.be/2vjPBrBU-TM
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In this installment of The Way Out, person in long term recovery and recovery advocate Ryan Hampton joins Jason for a tremendous recovery discussion. A prominent advocate, speaker, author, and media commentator, Ryan travels coast-to-coast to bring solutions to our national addiction and drug overdose crisis. In recovery from a decade-long opioid addiction, Hampton is regarded as a prominent expert and thought leader in America’s rising addiction recovery advocacy & drug policy reform movements. His first bestselling book, “American Fix — Inside the Opioid Addiction Crisis and How to End It,” was released by St. Martin’s Press in August 2018. His second book, “Unsettled: How the Purdue Pharma Bankruptcy Failed the Victims of the American Overdose Crisis,” was released in September 2021 and chronicled his behind-the-scenes efforts representing tens of thousands of victims in the Purdue Pharma opioid settlement litigation. Ryan is currently working on his third book, scheduled to be released in 2024. Ryan also created the national advocacy initiative, Mobilize Recovery. Since its inception, Mobilize Recovery has recruited and trained over 8,000 new advocates from all 50 states focused on community-based solutions to end the addiction and overdose crisis. Ryan shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point, the profound why behind his advocacy, as well as a wealth of recovery and spiritual truth. There’s a whole lot wrapped up in this phenomenal interview, so do be sure you listen up.
Contact: Ryanhampton.org
Book Recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of advice: "Shut up and listen!"
Song that symbolizes recovery: No Rain by Blind Melon - https://youtu.be/3qVPNONdF58
Resources:
Mobilize Recovery 2023 – Learn more and apply!
Recovery Advocacy Project – Education. Advocacy. Action (recoveryvoices.com)
How the Purdue Pharma Bankruptcy Failed the Victims of the American Overdose Crisis by Ryan Hampton:
https://www.amazon.com/Unsettled-Bankruptcy-Victims-American-Overdose/dp/1250273161
American Fix: Inside the Opioid Addiction Crisis - and How to End It by Ryan Hampton:
https://www.amazon.com/American-Fix-Inside-Opioid-Addiction/dp/1250196264
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m delighted to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery, wellness advocate and author of the book Bamboozled: The Guide to Getting EVERYTHING You Want in Life by Giving Up Alcohol, Ken Middleton. Ken shares his journey to and through sobriety to this point with us in an exceptionally enlightening and inspiring fashion. For Ken, getting sober wasn’t born out of debilitating alcoholism leading to an ultra-low bottom of despair and hopelessness. No, Ken reckoned with his relationship with alcohol, despite not having severe internal or external consequences and essentially asked himself one big question. What would life look like if he didn’t drink? Out of that question an experiment was born, and Ken realized that though Alcohol wasn’t destroying his life in the classic crash and burn style, what ken discovered was all the things alcohol was preventing him from being and doing. Said in another way, Ken had a remarkable realization: Alcohol was limiting him and was nothing short blocking him from being the best version of himself. Ken’s story is proof positive we don’t have to be in the depths of addiction in order to benefit from abstinence, sobriety, and recovery. We can ask ourselves questions similar to what Ken asked himself, such as what could life be like if like if I didn’t drink or use for a period of time? Ken suggests 90 days, but you choose the amount of time and then do something we talk often about on this show, run the experiment, and see what happens. You may find you were more dependent on it than you thought and your drinking or use was no mere habit, or you may find that though perhaps you weren’t dependent on it, alcohol or substances were acting like a governor on an old school muscle car and keeping your potential pent up, or you may find out something all together different. The only way you’ll find out is by running that experiment yourself, and might I suggest you take it in 24-hour segments at a time saying “Self, I’m not going to drink and/or use today”. Then start engaging in a recovery and/or wellness program and begin building a meaningful life filled with purpose as you become increasingly closer to the person you feel called to be. To that end, you’ll find plenty of practical tools, insight, and inspiration in Ken’s story, which about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Ken and learn more about Bamboozled: The Guide to Getting EVERYTHING You Want in Life by Giving Up Alcohol:
https://thebamboozledbook.com/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: This Naked Mind by Annie Grace:
https://www.amazon.com/This-Naked-Mind-Discover-Happiness/dp/0525537236/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=this+naked+mind&qid=1688409401&sr=8-1
Best piece of Recovery advice:
Give yourself some grace, it's ok to not be perfect and it's OK to make mistakes in Recovery. If you fail, forgive yourself and get back on the horse.
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Ken:
Lose yourself by Eminem: https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Professor, author, and person in long term recovery Lisa Sargese. Lisa shares her journey to and through Recovery from compulsive overeating as well as physical and emotional trauma in a way that cuts to the case and gets down to the heart of the matter, which for her was that her compulsive overeating was inextricably linked to an unwillingness to tolerate very specific dark emotions, which is what Lisa refers to them as and is rather apropos to what negative emotions feel like. This revelation for Lisa didn’t come easy, in fact it came at quite the high cost, an experience many of us can relate to. Understanding her triggers was just the beginning for Lisa, as she then leaned into 12-Step Recovery, Qi Gong, mindfulness, and a daily spiritual practice to build a happier, healthier life. As Lisa so profoundly states and I paraphrase, if you earnestly connect to your spirituality in a way that is meaningful to you every day, you will change which indeed has been my experience and the experience of many that have shared their recovery journeys on this here podcast just like the one from none other than Lisa Sargese that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up. Reach out to Lisa and Learn more about her Book and her media channels: https://www.lisasargese.com Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Do you need to be loved or do you love to be needed by Shari Schreiber: https://sharischreiber.com/do-you-love-to-be-needed/ Best piece of Recovery advice: How important is it? (keeping situations in perspective) Song that symbolizes Recovery to Lisa: Unstoppable by Sia: https://youtu.be/1Pg1RguhqxY Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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We’ve got a truly special episode for you to celebrate 350 episodes sharing powerful Recovery stories and Recovery Power Topics on the regular since 2016. In this rendition of The Way Out, Jason and I share why stories matter to us as human beings, why our Recovery Stories matter to ourselves and each other, and provide some practical ways you can share your own powerful recovery story. We’re combining the two major themes of The Way Out into one spectacular episode; a topic episode on Why Your Recovery Story Matters and How to Share It - which is admittedly more than a little meta but nonetheless it’s a topic we’ve never directly covered and one that is not only central to this podcast, but to Recovery and indeed the human experience. Your recovery story matters, all of ours do. They are the very lifeblood of the Recovery community, and they provide the essential hope, inspiration, relatability, and The Way Out no doubt someone desperately needs to hear so they too might recover and then share their story. So without further ado, we give you this here episode to highlight why your recovery story matters, why all recovery stories matter, and how you can share yours with others so listen up. Contact us at share@wayoutcast.com if you’d like to share your journey to and through Recovery to this point with us! Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz (c) 2015 - 2023 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)
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In this edition of The Way Out, our spectacular recovery podcast co-host with the most Jason is back with a fabulous interview with licensed psychotherapist, addictions counselor and person in long term recovery, Dr. Donna Marks. Dr. Donna Marks is also a certified gestalt therapist, psychoanalyst, hypnotist, and sex therapist. In addition, she’s facilitated A Course in Miracles for over 30 years. In her new book The Healing Moment, Dr. Donna Marks integrates evidence-based psychological principles with spiritual lessons into 7 unique paths for finding lasting peace and change. Dr. Donna Marks speaks rather candidly about her own journey of recovery and provides some valuable insights into the process of healing, so do be sure to listen up.
Contact info, media and resources:
https://drdonnamarks.com/
Dr. Marks' Book Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Moment-Paths-Messes-Miracles/dp/1582708738/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1AAL2QQ7TSNDL&keywords=the+healing+moment+dr.+donna+marks&qid=1682951226&sprefix=the+healing+momet%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Grow-Forgive-Spiritual-Success/dp/0578831589/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3QRPF12A4M72U&keywords=dr.+donna+marks&qid=1682978446&sprefix=dr.+donna+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-4
https://www.amazon.com/Exit-Maze-Addiction-Cause-Solution/dp/1582708940/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3QRPF12A4M72U&keywords=dr.+donna+marks&qid=1682978446&sprefix=dr.+donna+%2Caps%2C130&sr=8-2
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: A Course in Miracles by Helen Schucman - https://www.amazon.com/Course-Miracles-Original-Helen-Schucman/dp/0976420066/ref=sr_1_4crid=1JZSQF13W6VZD&keywords=a+course+in+miracles+original+edition&qid=1682978602&sprefix=a+course+%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-4
Best piece of Recovery advice: "When you love yourself as much as you love ______, you will not want to do it anymore."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Dream On by Aerosmith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89dGC8de0CA&pp=ygUIZHJlYW0gb24%3D
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview with Physician’s Assistant, Speaker, Mom, Wife, Dog Lover, and Author of Incurable Hope: A Memoir for Coping with a Loved One’s Addiction Lisa Gennosa. Lisa’s story is in part a story of a Mother who had to reckon with her son’s substance use, in part a story of a Mother who had to reckon with her own part in what is truly a family disease, and indeed in part a story of Lisa turning these first two parts of her journey into an amazing purpose which is to be the change she wishes to see in the world. Lisa is a fierce advocate and ally for addiction recovery and for the families and loved ones of those who are facing addiction and has dedicated herself to this important work in her role as a Physician’s Assistant, in her work in her community, and with her sharing her story like she did in her new book and as she does with us on this here episode so do be sure you listen up.
Contact Lisa and learn more about her new book Incurable Hope: A Memoir for Coping with a Loved One’s Addiction:
https://www.lisagennosa.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Ego is the enemy by Ryan Holiday - https://egoistheenemy.com/
Best Piece of Recovery Advice:
We did the best we could with what we had at the time so extend ourselves grace and forgiveness
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Lisa:
Rescue by Lauren Daigle - https://youtu.be/9PugD11k3JU
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in this rendition of The Way Out I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with psychologist, author of the new book Co-Crazy One Psychologist’s Recovery from Codependency and Addiction: A Memoir and Roadmap to Freedom, and person in long term recovery Dr. Sarah Michaud. Dr Sarah shares her journey to and through recovery from addiction and codependency to this point with us in a way that really helps us understand both in an extremely beneficial way. On its face, addiction and codependence appear to be polar opposites of one another. Addiction involves the compulsive use of a substance or behavior to change one’s feelings, or default state of mind and body. Codependency on the other hand, is on its surface, about trying to change the addict or alcoholic. Underneath this behavior, however is a compulsion that is precisely the same but looks very different on the surface. Co-dependent behavior ultimately is about trying to change others in order to change one’s own feelings. It often manifests like this: I feel a compulsion to fix or save a loved one from pain or discomfort. This seems like a straightforward act of love and helpfulness, however the driving force behind this act is not about them. In reality, it’s about me. My inability to sit with the discomfort and dis-ease of watching a loved one experience pain or adversity. Ultimately, the desire to control people, places and things is about trying to change others so I can change my feelings. The good news is, just as the root of codependency and addiction are strikingly similar, so are the principles and practices we adopt to recover from each affliction Dr. Sarah’s message about the truth of addiction and codependency, how she found The Way Out, and how you can too is instructive, enlightening and downright inspirational so listen up.
Contact Dr. Sarah Michaud and learn more about Co-Crazy One Psychologist’s Recovery from Codependency and Addiction: A Memoir and Roadmap to Freedom:
http://drsarahmichaud.com
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Comfortable with Uncertainty by Pema Chodron - https://pemachodronfoundation.org/product/comfortable-with-uncertainty-book/
The Book of Awakening by Mark Nepo - https://marknepo.com/books_awakening.php
The Language of Letting Go by Melody Beattie - https://melodybeattie.com/books/language-letting-go-hazelden-meditation-series/
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: This too shall pass
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dr. Sarah:
Amazing Grace: https://youtu.be/Obp-9BEZe1c
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and CEO of Desert Hope Treatment Center, George Gatski. George shares his journey to and through recovery this point with us with the refreshing candor and insight we’ve come to know quite well here at The Way Out Podcast and the fashion in which Greg shares his Recovery journey is a shining example of a Powerful Recovery story that is ultra relatable and extremely illuminating. Especially enlightening and instructive in George’s story are the following messages: first is the exceptionally common experience of our drug of choice being an instant answer to our problems - as George phrases it, like a key in a lock and equally important to understand is most folks don’t feel that way when the drink or use substances. Second, and we’re fierce advocates of this message, there are no rock bottoms in addiction. The only true rock bottom is when we’re dead. Anything short of that is when we stop digging. Instead, there are very often windows of opportunities or bottoms if you will which afford us a chance to enter into Recovery and to make a decision to begin to make the changes we need to make in order to launch our Recovery in earnest. Last but certainly not least, George’s message that we’re not bad people getting good, instead we’re sick people getting well helps us understandthat we can shed the shame and guilt wrapped up in our past which is consistent with much of the work that is embodied in the 12 Steps and many other pathways of Recovery. All of this is to say that George’s story is a tremendous listen and is jam packed with spiritual and recovery truth so do make sure you listen up.
Reach out to George Gatski and Desert Hope Treatment Center:
https://deserthopetreatment.com/contributors/george-gatski-mba-cadc/
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendations:
NA Basic Text - https://www.na.org/?ID=literature
Untethered Soul by Mark Singer -https://untetheredsoul.com/untethered-soul
Best pieces of Recovery Advice:
I'm not a bad person getting good I'm a sick person gettingwell
My head lies to me
Song that symbolizes Recovery to George: We belong by PatBenetar - https://youtu.be/qxZInIyOBXk
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview with composer, performing artist, coach for musicians and artists in recovery, and person in long term recovery Skip Sams. Skip shares his journeyto and through recovery to this point with candor and insight that is rooted in humility, self-awareness, spirituality, and healthy doses of humor sprinkled throughout a story that is about Skip coming to grips with his addiction, mental health, sexuality, and ultimately finding and embracing Recovery. For Skip, Recovery is very much about recovering his spirituality and his creative purpose using his gifts, talents, skills, and abilities which has now led Skip to live the spiritual axiom that in order to keep what we have in Recovery we have to give it a way, Skip now helps others in Recovery discover their own creative purpose through his Creative Purpose Project so listen up.
Contact Skip:
skipsams.com
Tel: (917) 387-6197
skip@skipsams.com
Mention you listened to this episode and receive a FREE coaching session!
More about the Creative Purpose Project:
https://www.creativepurposeproject.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Success Principles by Jack Canfield - https://www.amazon.com/Success-Principles-TM-Anniversary-Where/dp/0062364286
The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz - https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319
The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle - https://www.amazon.com/Power-Now-Guide-Spiritual-Enlightenment/dp/1577314808
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Wait 48 hours before you react
Song that Symbolizes Recovery for Sam:
Beautiful Things by Mario Frangoulis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vHW2U2eEI0
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In this rendition of The Way Out, I’m over the moon about having Teacher, Author and person in long term recovery Tim Moon – see what I did there – back on the show to share about his newest book, Tomato Fieldswhich at once has nothing to do with Recovery while at the same time has everything to do with Recovery. Tomato Fields is on it’s face an action/mystery/horror/adventure work of fiction that isn’t about recovery at all, and a very good one at that, yet the only reason this book exists is because of Recovery, specifically Tim’srecovery. It is in fact, a fruit of Tim’s Recovery and a phenomenal example of what Recovery and spirituality can enable us to do when we lean in and do the inside-out work we need to do to Recover and get out of our own way in an increasingly meaningful way which allows the opportunity to become ever closer to the people we feel called to be. Because I stopped believing in coincidences rather early in my own Recovery as one of the fruits of my spiritual experience it’s no coincidence that our conversation had little yet everything to do with his new book. Our spiritually charged exchange largely centered on Recovery and God, anda bit less on the book itself, yet I go back to the reason that Tomato Fields even exists is as a result of Tim’s spirituality and recovery. Similarly, the only reason this podcast and indeed this here episode that’s chalked full of spiritual and recovery truth exists is because of the totality Tim and I’s collective spirituality and recovery so listen up.
Contact Tim Moon:
Timsmoon@gmail
757 746 2931
Mailing List: eepurl.com/iaqOgP
Waking up Blog:
https://contemplativelight.org/blog-tim-moon/page/4/
Tomato Fields by Tim Moon:
https://www.amazon.com/Tomato-Fields-Tim-Moon/dp/B0BRM1GBDD/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) Recommendation:
The AA Big book
Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Joe Dispenza:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1401938094?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_R10XNBAG7BJKKAAQQYHA
Best piece of Recovery Advice:
Don't overthink do the next right thing let go and let God
Songs that Symbolize Recovery for Tim:
Desperato by The Eagles
https://youtu.be/aelpqWEBHR4
NF - How Could You Leave Us
https://youtu.be/wOzQMCyPc8o
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In this rendition of The Way out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with the one and only Pastor Jim Downs, formerly known as Big Jim Downs who appeared on this here podcast in one of our very early episodes, whenthis podcast was in it’s infancy. His story was amazing then, and it’s only become more amazing since. Pastor Jim shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us, as well as the amazing things he’s doing with Rockhouse Ministries. Though Paster Jim has dropped the Big from his name, he in no way has stopped the big things he’s doing for the Recovery community so listen up.
More about Rockhouse Ministries:
https://www.rockhouserecovery.com/
Phone: (423) 365-7077
Email: rockhouse@rockhouserecovery.com
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Bible
The Power to Choose by Mike O'Neil:
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Choose-Mike-ONeil/dp/0963345400
Purpose driven life by Rick Warren:
https://www.amazon.com/Purpose-Driven-Life-What-Earth/dp/031033750X
Best Piece of Recovery Advice - Stop talking and startlistening
Song that Symbolizes Recovery Set Me Free by Casting Crowns:
https://youtu.be/s_WNDIybIXs
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery, co-founder of the Recovery Organization She Recovers, and author of the new daily mediation book SheRecovers Every Day Dawn Nickel. Hearing Dawn share her journey to and through Recovery to this point is at once an absolute delight and truly enlightening as she shares the reality of her own experience with addiction while dispensing Recovery insights and wisdom rooted in compassion and grounded in reality andpracticality. Her work with the She Recovers Foundation and her new offering in the recovery literature genre are tremendous examples of what a true treasure Dawn is for the Recovery community, as is the outstanding interview with Dawn that is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Dawn Nickel:
https://dawnnickel.com/contact/
More about She Recovers:
https://sherecovers.org/
More about the new Daily Meditation Book by Dawn Nickel:
https://dawnnickel.com/book/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Reccomendation:
NA Basic Text:
https://na-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/1990-3rd-Edition-Revised-Baby-Blue.pdf
Best Recovery Advice:
Be honest, Be curious
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Dawn:
Life is a Highway by Tom Cochrane:
https://youtu.be/U3sMjm9Eloo
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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m absolutely honored to bring you my interview with President of Visions of Recovery Inc, Director and Author of Visions Theater, and Person in long term recovery Bob Lo Bue. Bob shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us with unbridled honesty and a refreshing humor that makes it all the more enjoyable when we are taking in the rather poignant spiritual and recovery wisdom that is embedded within it and all the more inspirational when we learn what Recovery has enabled Bob to do as a result. Namely the divinely inspired Visions Theater which is a play by and for people in Recovery that depicts various iterations of two of our most defining shared experiences as people in Recovery – our moment of reckoning, followed by our entry into Recovery. This powerful performance has the power to do what all good recovery stories have the power to do, and that is to break through our denial and terminal uniqueness and inspire within us the idea that Recovery may in fact be possible and worthwhile for us. Stories afford us an opportunity to see ourselves in others that have felt like we felt, did what we did, thought like we thought and have gotten better, and these stories contain a road map and medicine to help us find our own Way Out. Bob truly believes we who experience addiction are but lost souls who are desperately seeking our way home, and once we do find our way often we embrace life with an uncommon vigor that enables us to reclaim and discover our gifts, talents, skills and abilities and use them for the greater good of humanity, and in the process we become increasingly closer to the people we feel called to be, and this here episode is proof positive so listen up.
Contact Bob and Learn More About Visions Theater:
https://visionsrecoveryplay.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Wayfarers by William Donkin:
https://www.amazon.com/Wayfarers-Meher-Baba-God-Intoxicated/dp/1880619245
Best Piece of Recovery Advice:
People in Recovery are special, highly evolved souls
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Spirit by The Water Boys -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7plNRs5kwgE
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In this rendition of The Way Out co-host extraordinaire Jason had the distinct pleasure of talking with Will House, the creator of the Oberit App. Oberit is an app where wellness and recovery are rewarded! Earn for doing consistent healthy actions and build the fundamental habits you need to be your best self. The app uses simple neuroscience techniques designed to better manage stress, anxiety, and unhealthy addictive behaviors in a rewarding and motivating way. It also features the Become Program video lessons which are full of great practical tools you can use in your recovery. We learn all about Oberit and get to know Will on a personal level so listen up.
Contact Will:
will@getoberit.com
More the Oberit App:
Oberit - Build Healthy Habits, Reward Your Recovery (getoberit.com)
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth About Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller:
https://www.amazon.com/ONE-Thing-Surprisingly-Extraordinary-Results/dp/1885167776
Best piece of Recovery Advice:
Ask yourself..."Is this decision conducive to the life I'm trying to build?"
Song that symbolizes recovery:
Come Together by Nox Vahn: https://youtu.be/wULG18MXKz4
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in this edition of The Way Out our intrepid co-host Jasontalks with person in long term recovery Lori Windfeldt, who likes to callherself the perpetual volunteer. Lori is also a recovery coach, best-sellingauthor, speaker, podcast host and runs the nonprofit organization Dry SocietySocial Club that throws a fancy recovery gala every year. Her shiningpersonality and heart for service will have you truly smitten. You won’t belistening long before you realize how great a time both Jason and Lori hadsharing space together and I couldn’t be more excited to turn it over to these twopower houses in recovery so listen up.
Contact Lori: hello@loriwindfeldt.com
Lori’s Links: https://linktr.ee/loriwindfeldt
Best piece of Recovery advice: You are not the center of theuniverse." or " I will no longer allow myself to be uncomfortable sothat you can be comfortable."
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The BodyKeeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel vander Kolk:
https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Heavy by Linkin Park (feat.Kiiara):
https://youtu.be/5dmQ3QWpy1Q
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you my interview with Licensed Psychologist, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Person in Long term recovery and author, Dr. Laura Petracek. Laura shares her journey to and through recovery from alcoholism and addiction while at the same time coming to terms with, and addressing her bipolar disorder which together ended up being the struggle of her lifetime, and one that eventually motivated her to implement Dialectical Behavioral Therapy or DBT for short in her own life along with the 12-Step program she’d been working for years. A struggle, that ultimately informed her new book The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery, and Relapse Prevention which is chalked full of Recovery tools that are centered in DBT and the 12 Steps, which increasingly enable us achieve the often illusive balance between the extremes we’ve been accustomed to, and thereby enabling us to become increasingly closer to the people we feel called to be, and this here interview is likewise plum full of spiritual and recovery truth so listen up.
Contact Dr. Laura Patracek and learn more about The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery, and Relapse Prevention
https://www.laurapetracekphd.com/
https://www.amazon.com/DBT-Workbook-Alcohol-Drug-Addiction/dp/1839972521
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Soul Silence: A Unique Approach to Mastering the 11th Step by Peter Amato - https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Silence-Unique-Approach-Mastering/dp/0757315305
DBT App:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.swasth.dbtcoach
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dbt-coach/id1452264969
Best Recovery Advice: This too shall pass, One step at time, Hang on keep moving forward, It's easier to stay sober than to get sober
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Learning to live by Celia Van Marth
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m delighted to bring you a tremendous interview I had with mindset and nutrition coach, fellow podcaster, and person in long term recovery Glenn Dougherty. Glenn shares his journey to and through recovery to this point in super refreshing, positive often entertaining and always inspirational fashion and I do believe you all will be nodding along and indeed laughing along as you at once relate with Glenn’s story as well as find the humor in it in only the way we who are in Recovery truly can. The inspirational nature of Glenn’s story is due in large part to how he evolved through his health and wellness in conjunction with his therapeutic and sobriety journey, all in the context of resurrecting the most important intimate relationship in his life, with his now wife that he’s now married not once but twice, a wife that he now does a podcast with that’s aptly named About this Life, all of which is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Glenn:
https://www.instagram.com/glenndoughertyjr/
About this Life Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/about-this-life-with-shafondra-matthews-glenn-dougherty-jr/id1606295848
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Dichotomyof Leadership: Balancing the Challenges of Extreme Ownership to Lead and Win byJocko Willink:
https://www.amazon.com/Dichotomy-Leadership-Balancing-Challenges-Ownership/dp/1250195772
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Share your story
Baby by Fabolous Ft. Mike Shorey:
https://youtu.be/V5g4pxDreYo
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with Caroline Beidler who is a person in long term recovery and the author of the new book “Downstairs Church: Finding Hope in the Grit of Addiction and Trauma Recovery”. Caroline shares her journey to and through recovery to this point in a way that is heavy on the solution and what got her and keeps her well and that is firmly rooted in connecting with and being of service of others in Recovery, which exactly what her new book and this here interview is all about so I highly recommend staying tuned as Caroline Recovers Out Loud in the most inspirational and instructive way so listen up.Check out the Recovery Revolution Podcast Network:http://wayoutcast.com/recovery-resourcesContact Caroline and learn more about Downstairs Church: Finding Hope in the Grit of Addiction and Trauma Recovery:https://www.carolinebeidler.com/Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:The Life Recovery Biblehttps://www.tyndale.com/sites/liferecovery/Sober Mercies: How Love Caught Up with a Christian Drunkhttps://www.amazon.com/Sober-Mercies-Caught-Christian-Drunk/dp/B01L9AY2J4Best piece of Recovery Advice - Don't pick relationships with a broken picker!Song that symbolizes Recovery:How Great Thou Art - https://youtu.be/Cc0QVWzCv9kDon’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz(c) 2015 - 2023 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/message
In this rendition of The Way Out co-host extraordinaire Jason returns and shares a marvelous interview where he reconnects with a very old friend who just celebrated 1 year of sobriety! Jason and Jeff Rogers hadn't seen each other in 25 years until Jason recognized him at a recovery event. Jeff is doing some amazing service work here in Minnesota, where he lives with his beautiful family, and together are building a beautiful life today. His journey to and through recovery to this point is instructive in large part because it shows that we don't have to lose it all in order to achieve a deep and durable recovery. All that is required to make a beginning is to be honest with ourselves and a sincere willingness to make a change when we see what lies in store for us if we don’t. One thing that is surely in store for you is this gem of a recovery talk so listen up.
Contact Jeff:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004183186616
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rollhardplayhard/
Facebook Disc Golf Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1365818277198617
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation. Beyond Belief: Agnostic Musings for 12 Step Life: finally, a daily reflection book for nonbelievers, freethinkers and everyone by Joe C.:
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Belief-reflection-nonbelievers-freethinkers/dp/0988115700
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Stay teachable
Song that symbolizes recovery: Jack Johnson - Banana Pancakes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkyrIRyrRdY
TOOL – Sober:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouVedNg-6WQ
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m beyond honored to bring you my interview with Author of the new book entitled “Get Me to The Abbey” and person in long term recovery, Lisa Avelleyra. Lisa shares her ultra-relatable journey to and through recovery to this point with us only in the way a true story teller can and with a distinctly wry humor and an unmistakable authenticity that will no doubt have each and every one of you laughing, connecting, and feeling like we’re all old friends in Recovery, a feeling I reckon is one of the best there is. The genuine Recovery and Spiritual wisdom that emanates from Lisa’s story is truly something to behold as is the nothing short of miraculous experience she has while at The Abbey, where she finds so much more than she ever thought possible. She finds her Higher Power at The Abbey. She finds community at The Abbey. She finds hope at The Abbey. Lisa finds herself at The Abbey, and perhaps most importantly, what Lisa finds at The Abbey is that meaningful and enduring Recovery is not only possible, but it’s absolutely worth it and proof positive our Recovery stories matter so listen up.
Contact Lisa:
https://lisaave.com
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Get Me to the Abbey by Lisa Avelleyra:
https://lisaave.com/product/get-me-to-the-abbey
The Lost Weekend (Movie): https://archive.org/details/TheLostWeekend
Best piece of Recovery Advice:
We can't control what happens to us, but we can control how we respond.
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor - https://youtu.be/6dYWe1c3OyU
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m overjoyed to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and life coach Hayley Scherders. Hayley shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us with remarkable authenticity and in extremely relatable fashion, and all along the way she sprinkles practical recovery and spiritual wisdom that we can all apply to our own recovery. One of the most enlightening of which is the wonderfully powerful idea and concept of having 5 seconds of courage in order to ignite a seismic and positive shift in our lives, such as choosing to begin our journey of recovery, or starting therapy, or giving up a counterproductive thought and/or behavior pattern, or as Hayley so eloquently stated and herself experienced, deciding to turn our past into lessons instead of life sentences. Indeed, the smallest of beginnings can mushroom into meaningful, positive and sustained change, such as reading some quit-lit, going to a recovery meeting, or listening to a powerful recovery story like the one that’s about to unfold before your very ears, so listen up.
Contact Hayley:
https://www.livingovertheinfluence.com/
Recovery Resources:
The Problem & The Solution by Fred Holmquist - The Way Out Podcast Episode 124:
https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/episodes/The-Problem--The-Solution-by-Fred-Holmquist---The-Way-Out-Podcast-Episode-124-e389ur
Recovery (quit-lit) recommendations:
This Naked Mind by Annie Grace - https://thisnakedmind.com/this-naked-mind/
We are the Luckiest by Laura McKowen - https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Luckiest-Surprising-Magic/dp/160868654X
The unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherine Gray - https://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Joy-Being-Sober-alcohol-free/dp/1912023385
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: You don't have to be alone any more if you don't want to
Song that Symbolizes Recovery:
Better Days by Dermot Kennedy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gqbE9jDI1g
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m overjoyed to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and founder of the creative coaching agency Liberty Empowerment and the new community Speak Toast, Keelin Conant. In accordance with the Truth in Podcasting Act of 2023, which I 100% just made up and is absolutely not a real thing, this is the last of a handful of interviews I inadvertently recorded with my super sub-par webcam microphone, so a big thank you to all ya’ll Way Out faithful for bearing with the less than stellar audio from yours truly. Despite my audio adversity, the spiritual and recovery truth that emerges as Keelin shares her journey to and through recovery is truly extraordinary. Without question one of the key truths embodied in Keelin’s story amounts to a profound and fundamental question we all must address or answer in one way or another in our Recovery Journeys: what are we willing to give up to become the person we feel called to be? This question goes back to the Hero’s Journey we’ve often referenced on this podcast, which is the journey we all embark upon when we enter recovery. We reckon with our limitations, which for us is largely our addictions and counter productive thought and behavior patterns and we embark on a journey which principally consists of becoming increasingly willing to systematically shed our addictions and counterproductive thought and behavior patterns in order to become increasingly closer to the people we ultimately feel called to be. To the extent that we’re able to do that, is the extent we can increasingly live in the sunlight and embody the love and connectedness that creates a meaningful and enduring Recovery. Regardless of the pathway we take, whether that be 12-Step Recovery, SMART Recovery, Refuge Recovery, Faith based Recovery, a combination of these or an all together different path the truths embodied in the conversation that’s about to unfold before your very ears are truly universal. The word conversation is an adjective which frankly fundamentally fails to accurately describe what transpired between Keelin and I, it was in fact a spiritually liberating exchange of the highest order so do make sure you listen up.
Contact Keelin:
https://libertyempowerment.com/home
Learn more about the 7 Steps to Liberty:
https://libertyempowerment.com/lzguide
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho: https://www.amazon.com/Alchemist-Paulo-Coelho/dp/0061122416
Recovery: Freedom from Our Addictions by Russel Brand: https://www.amazon.com/Recovery-Freedom-Addictions-Russell-Brand/dp/1250141923
Best Recovery Advice: One Day at a Time, This Too Shall Pass
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Say it Ain’t So by Weezer: https://youtu.be/ENXvZ9YRjbo
The Power is Here Now by Alexia Chellun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rJfU1A6cxs
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In this rendition of The Way Out I am absolutely ecstatic to bring you what turned out to be a marvelous interview with Joi Andreoli, Author of the new book The Recovery Cycle: A Practical Guide to Loving Your Sober Life. Joi is also a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Transactional Analysis Practitioner, Certified WANT® Communication Educator, and person in long term recovery. Many of us who have spent any time in and around recovery may have been introduced to the concept of the addiction cycle, of which there are a number of variations. For our purposes, the addiction cycle has four distinct phases starting with preoccupation and anticipation which then leads to addiction related rituals like the search for and preparation of the substance which then leads to intoxication or binging followed by the last phase which is withdrawal and negative effects like shame, guilt and remorse. Much of what we’re actively doing in Recovery is a process of replacing our addictions and counterproductive thought and behavior patterns with positive and healthy behaviors that over time begin to change the way we think, feel, react, and respond to the daily events and situations we encounter in our lives. Nature abhors a vacuum so just trying really hard not to do any particular thought and behavior pattern or addiction through sheer willpower without replacing the void with positive actions and practices is nothing short of unsustainable for most of us. Willpower is finite, but engaging in what Joi refers to as contrary action allows us to refocus and to realign our energies and efforts and as you’ve heard more than a time or two on this podcast, we can act our way into right living instead of trying to think our way into right acting. As we learn in the interview that is about to unfold before your very ears, Joi asserts that recovery too has a cycle which is the mirror opposite in the positive of the cycle of addiction so listen up.
Contact Joi and learn more about The Recovery Cycle: A Practical Guide to Loving Your Sober Life:
https://www.communicatewithjoi.com/
Recovering Couples Anonymous:
https://recovering-couples.org/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery Advice: “Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny.” – Lao Tzu
I will Survive by Gloria Gaynor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dYWe1c3OyU
Rainbow by Kacey Musgraves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OFv566mj7s
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In this rendition of The Way Out, recovery cohost extraordinaire Jason has a tremendous interview with person in long term recovery and author, Joe Booth. Joe is absolutely phenomenal in what turned out to be an extraordinary conversation between he and Jason. We find out about Joe's life, addiction and of course, his Recovery. Joe goes deep with us on the recovery program he created with the help of some college professors and some good old-fashioned research. Formerly called Class V Mind, and now newly rebranded as Become by Oberit, this program is available online and through the Oberit App, where you get rewarded for developing healthy daily habits. One habit you’ll be glad you keep is listening to amazing interviews like this one featuring the one and only Joe Booth so listen up.
Contact Joe: joe@classfivemind.com
Best piece of advice: "Trust the process" or "It works if you work it"
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
Buddhism & the Twelve Steps Daily Reflections: Thoughts on Dharma and Recovery: Griffin, Kevin - https://www.amazon.com/Buddhism-Twelve-Steps-Daily-Reflections/dp/0999678914
From the River: A guidebook to sobriety from a lifetime of lessons paddling: Booth, Joe - https://www.amazon.com/River-guidebook-sobriety-lifetime-paddling/dp/0578677784
Recovery Resources:
Become recovery program: https://joinbecome.health/
Oberit daily habit rewards: https://www.getoberit.com/
Compris resilience self-assessment: https://www.compriscare.com/become
Adventure based guided meditations: https://joinbecome.health/get-adventure-meditations
Song that symbolizes recovery to Joe:
Spirit Bird by Xavier Rudd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yN6MR4XraY
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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m at once extremely humbled and grateful to bring you my interview with person in long term recovery and bonified poet, Melissa DeJesus. Melissa shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with us, a journey in which Melissa endures enough Capitol T Trauma, Adverse Childhood Experiences or ACES, and loss for multiple lifetimes. Carl Jung once said “No Tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless it’s roots reach down to hell” and Gabor Mate is credited with coining the phrase “Ask, not why the addiction, but why the pain” two quotes that are quite apropos for many of us and certainly no more so than with Melissa. Perhaps the most beautiful gifts to come out of Melissa’s recovery are the Capital T Truth both Recovery and Spiritual she’s learned and indeed shares in this very interview, and her poetry, which has taken on new meaning in her Recovery and to that end I am beyond honored to share with you all one of Melissa’s original poems delivered by none other than Melissa DeJesus herself followed immediately by my interview with Melissa in its entirety, so listen up.
Melissa’s Poetry:
https://www.amazon.com/Poems-Addict-Inside-Melissa-DeJesus-ebook/dp/B0B4FWBD9S?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:
How it Works and Why:
http://www.coastalcarolinaarea.org/literature/books/h_w.pdf
Living Clean:
https://www.recoveryshop.com/Living-Clean-NA-Book-p/nabk5.htm
Best Piece of Recovery Advice - It's OK not to be OK
Song that Symbolizes Recovery - Save Me by Jelly Roll:
https://youtu.be/FxFNprPOdss
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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m beyond excited to bring you my interview with award winning director and producer and founder of Emmy-nominated People People Media, Jared Callahan. A quick note before we proceed: Much to my chagrin and surprise I discovered after this interview that inexplicably my default recording microphone on my podcasting rig reverted to – insert gasp here – the microphone built into my webcam. As horrified as I was at the discovery, you can still hear yours truly just fine despite the sub-par webcam mic and you can hear Jared just fine despite the internet gremlins on his end, and it afforded me a few opportunities in light of this unfortunate turn of events. First, as my fiancée said to me after watching me have a near meltdown and listening to the raw audio, “it’s fine, it doesn't sound that bad at all” – I realized my podcasting ego was making a much bigger deal out of it than it actually was and the goal of this podcast is not audiophile perfection but to bring you powerful recovery stories and recovery power topics to jumpstart or reenergize your recovery. Second, and not for nothing it pushed me to level up my post production and audio editing game to a new level to message the audio for a more pleasant listening experience. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming, which is my interview with Jared Callahan about his new Project “Clean Slate”. I must confess I did not watch the film before interviewing Jared and I’m glad I didn’t because as a result this interview is 100 % certified spoiler free. I was so excited to watch the film after our interview I legit rented it immediately and watched it while working out that very night. This film is unequivocally the best documentary on addiction and recovery I’ve seen to date. Clean Slate does a marvelous job in telling a story about how real folks in Recovery go from step zero to step one and this film goes a long way to allow those who experience addiction in their own lives to bee seen and enable those who don’t to develop compassion and empathy for those who do, and that perhaps is one of the most noble missions of all so listen up.
More about Jared and People People Media:
https://www.peoplepeoplemedia.com/
Movie Recommendations:
American Movie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Movie
Fight Club - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_Club
Advice - You are worth it, and recovery is worth it. You are not defined by your worst moment.
Song – Listen 5 minutes before the end of the film Clean Slate!
Book a screening - https://www.jaredcallahan.com/contact
Buy or Rent Clean Slate:
https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Slate-Cassidy-Detmer/dp/B0B8T1VWJD
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In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid and indeed tremendous cohost Jason had the amazing opportunity to share space with the creator of the Recovery Soulfood Podcast, Reverend Lona Currie, or LC as those who know him are fond of calling him. LC is a transgender mentor and a seemingly bottomless well of recovery wisdom and spiritual truth. Learning about LC's life will no doubt at once inspire, enlighten, and fascinate all who listen. His heart for the world is so big! You simply can't help but be inspired by the journey that brought him to where he's at today so listen up.
Contact LC and other resources:
https://www.facebook.com/LCrecoverysoulfood?mibextid=LQQJ4d
https://www.youtube.com/@RecoverySoulfood
Instagram @ecovery_soulfood (this is my contact info-DM)
TikTok @RecoverySoulfood
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "You can only grow to your environment"
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Twelve Universal Laws of Success: Herbert Harris:Chr
https://www.amazon.com/Twelve-Universal-Laws-Success/dp/0974836214
Song that symbolizes recovery to LC:
The Greatest Showman Cast - This Is Me (Official Lyric Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxugyZCfuw
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A long overdue and spectacular interview Jason and Charlie had with person in long term recovery, Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast cohost and founder and CEO of Spirits at Rest, Jeremy Gerres. Jeremy shares his amazing journey to & through #Recovery to this point with both Charlie & Jason in our first in studio interview in over 2 years! Jeremy is a true powerhouse in his local Recovery community
Contact Jeremy: https://spiritsatrest.com/contact-us
Spirits at Rest: https://spiritsatrest.com/
Faith, Recovery & Music Podcast: https://www.faithrecoverymusic.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
A.A. Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
The Secret by Rhonda Byrne - https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Rhonda-Byrne/dp/1582701709
Best Piece of Recovery Advice - Whether you think you can or you think you can't you're right - Henry Ford
Songs that Symbolizes Recovery: Living Life by the Drop by Stevie Ray Vaughan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZPMScX9-k
That's why I'm Here by Kenny Chensney - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqo0aVgKHRo
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In this edition of The Way Out, I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you a tremendous interview I had the pleasure of having with person in long term recovery and author of the new book Addicted in Film: Movies We Love About the Habits We Hate, Ted Perkins. Ted shares his journey to and through recovery to this point and how both smart recovery and how watching films about addiction and recovery in his early recovery – over 100 films in 100 days to be more precise – was instrumental to his recovery for what amounted to a few key reasons. The first reason and definitely one that’s near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out, is that films are at their very core are telling a story, in this specific case, about addiction or recovery or both, and stories are how we humans evolved to learn, grow, and connect to each other. Stories help us understand our shared history and how we persevere and overcome all manner of hardship and adversity. At their best, stories captivate us, and we cannot help but connect to the characters, and they carry within them essential truth, wisdom and hope - which is precisely what we’re doing on the regular here with The Way Out Podcast. The second, and not insignificant, is that the film occupied the time that was spent drinking with something positive and productive. Idle time and boredom, especially in early recovery, can be a daunting situation to contend with. Replacing that time with positive and healthy activities that improve our minds, bodies, and spirits goes along way in laying the foundation for an enduring and rewarding life in recovery. Third and arguably most instructive from a recovery perspective, is what films and the stories they tell, tell us about ourselves, which, just like the heroes in our movies, we can reckon with our own demons and get honest about them, whatever they are and then we can overcome them in order to become the people we always knew, deep down inside we can be or the people we ultimately determine we want to be. Recovery stories inspire us to truly believe we too can recover and become heroes of our own stories by stepping into our innate skills, gifts, and abilities to connect to and help ourselves and others. Indeed as Ted so insightfully tells us, our lives can indeed imitate art or a powerful recovery story that you might just hear in the rooms of recovery, or on your favorite recovery podcast like Ted’s story on this here podcast which is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Ted and Learn More About the Book and the Movie Club:
www.addictedinfilm.com
Best Addiction and Recovery Movies:
The Lost Weekend | Thanks for Sharing
Best piece of recovery advice - Recovery is a muscle or skill, it takes practice
Song Perfect Day by Lou Reed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wxI4KK9ZYo
Duran Duran Version:
https://youtu.be/48YIGqvpXNE
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In this edition of The Way Out Jason - the best recovery podcast cohost in all the land had the pleasure of interviewing the founder of "Against The Odds", a thriving Facebook page and now a non-profit ministry, Phil Tyler! Phil's passion for his Higher Power embodied in his Christian Faith and for others is quite powerful. We hear about his journey to and through recovery as well as his passion for bringing Hope to the Hopeless through reading scripture to the thousands of members on his growing page. There is true power and community within this growing ministry and Phil’s story so listen up.Contact and Resources: atoministries.org | https://www.facebook.com/ATOministriesBest Piece of Recovery Advice: "Don't let a decision today affect your recovery tomorrow."Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Life Recovery Bible:https://www.amazon.com/Life-Recovery-Bible-Personal-Size/dp/1496427580/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2DYWBZKOYFR4M&keywords=life+recovery+bible&qid=1666744634&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjQyIiwicXNhIjoiMi43OSIsInFzcCI6IjIuNTcifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=life+recovery%2Caps%2C126&sr=8-1OR GET A FREE COPY @ atoministries.orgSong that symbolizes Recovery to Phil: Santcus Real – Confidence:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEGGVmSSr-IDon’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz(c) 2015 - 2022 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/message
In this rendition of The Way Out I am beyond excited to bring you a highly entertaining and enlightening interview I had with person in long term recovery, author, speaker, educator, and all-around sobriety and mental health advocate Daniel Patterson. Daniel shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with an unmistakable candor along with a refreshing dose of levity that helps to underscore the overarching Recovery truths that are embodied within Daniel’s recovery story and message which are in large part that Recovery is an individual journey, all pathways to recovery matter, and we recover the best when we recover together. Our recovery journey is as unique as we are and if it works for us it’s valid and worth sharing with others as much and as often as we feel comfortable doing so, as your particular brand of recovery might just work for some other folks too. There are indeed also universal recovery and spiritual truths like self-honesty, asking for help, and helping others that unite all pathways to recovery, just like we as humans are very much connected by universal experiences like pain, joy, grief and love. Daniel’s Recovery journey has led him to do amazing things in the Recovery and Mental Health space, like building sober high schools across the country, speaking at schools, being a Recovery Tik Tok sensation, and now hosting the Sobriety Uncensored Podcast which is an endeavor near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast Our Uncensored interview with Daniel and all of the spiritual and recovery truth embodied within is about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
More about Daniel Patterson:
https://linktr.ee/pattersonperspective
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendations:
The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday - https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Stoic-Meditations-Wisdom-Perseverance/dp/0735211736
The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz - https://www.amazon.com/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319
Best piece of Recovery advice: Comparison is the thief of joy
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Float on by Modest Mouse - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAud5O7Qqk
Shadow Days by John Mayer - https://youtu.be/_uOsXUsZdTc
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m absolutely ecstatic and honored to bring you my interview with person in long term Recovery and all-around amazing human being, Carrie Wessling from Costa Rica Recovery. Carrie shares her journey to and through Recovery to this point with unmitigated candor and her story pardon the pun, carries an undeniable truth, which is no matter how many times we’ve tried to achieve meaningful and enduring recovery and fell short, there’s always hope for us so long as we’re still breathing. Recovery is not just possible for us, it’s available to anyone who truly wants it and is willing to lean in and do the hard work that’s required of us to truly get well, and when we find ourselves on that recovery and wellness journey, we’ll discover how truly rewarding life can be and Carrie’s story is proof positive of just that so listen up.
Contact Carrie Wessling:
https://www.costaricarecovery.com/contact-us/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Drop the Rock:
https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/drop-the-rock-meaning
Advice - You're not a monster you're in pain
Song - Let it Be by the Beatles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4
More information on The Highly Sensitive Person:
https://hsperson.com/
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In this installment of The Way Out our intrepid recovery podcast cohost extraordinaire Jason brings us an outstanding interview where we get the privilege to get to know person in long term recovery, Sherry Gibson. By all rights Sherry should be dead a couple times over. Her journey to and through Recovery to this point and to God has been long and her message of hope is incredibly powerful. As they say... "Where there seems to be no way, God will make a way". Whether you consider yourself a religious person, spiritual person some combination of the two or neither spiritual or religious, Sherry’s story and message is chalked full of practical recovery wisdom and spiritual truth so listen up.
Contact Sherry Gibson on Facebook or at Foxandfriendsfan@gmail.com
Resources:
Sherry offers biblical counseling free of charge!! Just contact her directly to connect!
Biblical counseling and training resources:
Chisagolakesbaptist.org OR Check churches in your area
Book Recommendations: The Bible
Addictions: A Banquet in the Grave: Finding Hope in the Power of the Gospel (Resources for Changing Lives): Welch, Edward T
https://www.amazon.com/Addictions-Banquet-Finding-Resources-Changing/dp/0875526063/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IOAT0FM12DHY&keywords=a+banquet+in+the+grave&qid=1661131270&sprefix=a+banquet%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-1
Trusting God: Bridges, Jerry:
https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ARQPCA59IZTH&keywords=trusting+god+by+jerry+bridges&qid=1661131320&sprefix=Trusting+god%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1
Best advice: "Be honest and transparent"
"Pay attention to the H.A.L.T."
Song that symbolizes recovery:
Blessings by Laura Story - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blessings+laura+story
Matthew West - Hello, My Name Is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuJWQzjfU3o
Matthew West - Broken Things - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdUu6ZsdVfM
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In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason had the distinct honor of sitting down with one of the founders of the McShin Foundation, John Shinholser! John recently celebrated 40 years of continuous Recovery and McShin was one of the first Recovery Community Organizations in the U.S. We get to hear John's story and learn how you can build your own Recovery Community Organization. Very few individuals have as much of a servant's heart as John does. McShin has touched thousands of lives, they have helped change and create legislation, and they bring hope and resources into correctional institutions all over the United States. This is one interview you won’t want to miss, so listen up.
Contact John at johns@mcshin.org
Resources: McShin Foundation www.mcshin.org
Get in the Herd: A Recovery Podcast
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: NA Basic Text https://na.org/?ID=bt-aud
Best Recovery Advice: "Don't use no matter what."
Song that symbolizes recovery to John: One Day At A Time by Merle Haggard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGLHi9ty9jE
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m absolutely ecstatic that I am able to bring to you a phenomenal interview with person in long term recovery, clinical social worker, chemical dependency counselor, recover podcaster, and Author of two recovery books including his latest - Spirituality for People Who Hate Spirituality: A Primer – Casey Arrillaga. Casey shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with a truly remarkable ability to articulate the benefits of being a part of recovery fellowships, recovery programs, and in engaging in a personal spiritual journey of your own variety whether you identify as an addict, alcoholic, or you are on the family side and identify as a person who is related to or has a loved one that struggles with addiction.
Contact Casey:
addictionandthefamily@gmail.com
Addiction and the Family: Finding Recovery Together Podcast:
https://addictionandthefamily.fireside.fm/hosts/casey
Books written by Casey:
https://www.amazon.com/P-Casey-Arrillaga/e/B09Q2J8BJT/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk
Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous: https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
NA Basic Text: https://www.na.org/?ID=bt-aud
Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep coming back it gets better
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Safe Ground by Third Door Down
https://open.spotify.com/track/5SgaspTN2s5UqcNBBiTVMH?si=2706598c6ebd47f5
More information on two-way prayer:
https://www.twowayprayer.org/
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In this edition of The Way Out our tremendous recovery podcast co-host Jason catches up with an old friend who’s had a remarkable journey to and through recovery to this point, Tony Byrne! Tony shares his emotional story and the great work that he’s currently doing in the criminal justice system, working to fill the current gaps in our criminal justice system and to be a pioneer in the peer support movement in the state of Minnesota! Tony is super relatable and a true pleasure to listen to, and his inspiring story just may have you in varieties of tears, we’re talking goosebumps folks, so do make sure you listen up.
Contact Tony:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=800445033
Books: The Bible
The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz: https://www.miguelruiz.com/the-four-agreements
Best Advice: "Park in the back" (you have to listen in order to get this one)
Song that reminds Tony of recovery: Carrie Underwood - Great Is Thy Faithfulness ft. CeCe Winans (Official Performance Video):
https://youtu.be/NT0HcAr9aeI
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond thrilled to bring you my interview with Licensed Clinical Social Worker, person in long term recovery and Author of the book “The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward, Britt Frank. Britt shares her journey to and through recovery this point with at once an uncommon and refreshing forthrightness, and a truly remarkable insight. Britt has a tremendous ability to articulate so much of what drives addiction, trauma, mental health disorders, and counterproductive thought and behavior patterns in general, how we can shed the shame and stigma around them, and how we can begin a path to greater wellness and to building a life we don’t feel the need to constantly escape, or as Britt often and so eloquently sums it up, how to human better so listen up.
Reach out to Britt Frank:
britt@scienceofstuck.com
Learn more about The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward
https://www.scienceofstuck.com/
Recovery Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
https://www.youthranch.org/calculate-your-ace-score
Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit): - The Artists Way by Julia Cameron
https://www.theartistswaybook.com/
Best piece of Recovery Advice - No one is coming to rescue you
Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure (From "Encanto"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQwVKr8rCYw
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond thrilled to bring you my interview with Licensed Clinical Social Worker, person in long term recovery and Author of the book “The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward, Britt Frank. Britt shares her journey to and through recovery this point with at once an uncommon and refreshing forthrightness, and a truly remarkable insight. Britt has a tremendous ability to articulate so much of what drives addiction, trauma, mental health disorders, and counterproductive thought and behavior patterns in general, how we can shed the shame and stigma around them, and how we can begin a path to greater wellness and to building a life we don’t feel the need to constantly escape, or as Britt often and so eloquently sums it up, how to human better so listen up.
Reach out to Britt Frank:
britt@scienceofstuck.com
Learn more about The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find Your Path Forward
https://www.scienceofstuck.com/
Recovery Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
https://www.youthranch.org/calculate-your-ace-score
Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit): - The Artists Way by Julia Cameron
https://www.theartistswaybook.com/
Best piece of Recovery Advice - No one is coming to rescue you
Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure (From "Encanto"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQwVKr8rCYw
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out, our favorite recovery podcast co-host with the most, Jason has a marvelous interview with original drummer and one of the founding members of the band Maroon 5, Ryan Dusick. Ryan, who is now a person in long term recovery and a marriage and family therapist, shares his amazing journey of starting the band Maroon 5 and what it was like as the band blew up into international super-stardom, and in the process how he ended up losing his drumming career, and follow Ryan down to his personal point of desperation, which led to him finding true purpose in Recovery through his service work and now his career in helping those in their time of great need. Ryan talks about finding connections and about finding a new identity, post international pop superstardom as well as about his new career as a marriage and family therapist and what it was like to write his memoir Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing it All, and Finding Recovery. You won’t want to miss this very special and candid interview packed with recovery truth as Ryan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point so listen up.
Learn more about Ryan’s new book, Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing it All, and Finding Recovery:
https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=harder+to+breathe&qid=1666639606&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjk5IiwicXNhIjoiMC40MiIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sprefix=harder+to+b%2Cstripbooks%2C108&sr=1-1
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be Teachable
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Full Catastrophe Living: Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to Face Stress, Pain, and Illness:
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Revised-Illness/dp/0345536932
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Ryan: Sia – Chandelier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM
Recovery Resources:
Betty Ford Center Drug Rehab | California | Rancho Mirage (hazeldenbettyford.org)
Home - CLARE|MATRIX (clarematrix.org)
Missing Peace Center for Anxiety – A Spa for Your Brain (missingpeace4anxiety.com)
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out, our favorite recovery podcast co-host with the most, Jason has a marvelous interview with original drummer and one of the founding members of the band Maroon 5, Ryan Dusick. Ryan, who is now a person in long term recovery and a marriage and family therapist, shares his amazing journey of starting the band Maroon 5 and what it was like as the band blew up into international super-stardom, and in the process how he ended up losing his drumming career, and follow Ryan down to his personal point of desperation, which led to him finding true purpose in Recovery through his service work and now his career in helping those in their time of great need. Ryan talks about finding connections and about finding a new identity, post international pop superstardom as well as about his new career as a marriage and family therapist and what it was like to write his memoir Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing it All, and Finding Recovery. You won’t want to miss this very special and candid interview packed with recovery truth as Ryan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point so listen up.
Learn more about Ryan’s new book, Harder to Breathe: A Memoir of Making Maroon 5, Losing it All, and Finding Recovery:
https://www.amazon.com/Harder-Breathe-Memoir-Finding-Recovery/dp/1637742339/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=harder+to+breathe&qid=1666639606&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjk5IiwicXNhIjoiMC40MiIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sprefix=harder+to+b%2Cstripbooks%2C108&sr=1-1
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be Teachable
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Full Catastrophe Living: Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to Face Stress, Pain, and Illness:
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Revised-Illness/dp/0345536932
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Ryan: Sia – Chandelier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vjPBrBU-TM
Recovery Resources:
Betty Ford Center Drug Rehab | California | Rancho Mirage (hazeldenbettyford.org)
Home - CLARE|MATRIX (clarematrix.org)
Missing Peace Center for Anxiety – A Spa for Your Brain (missingpeace4anxiety.com)
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out, the Recovery Podcast Co-host with the most has a tremendous interview with Ohio recovery advocate and person in long term recovery, Daniel Ritchie. Daniel's journey to and through recovery to this point has been, in a word, intense. A journey that includes athleticism, abuse, MMA fighting, criminal behavior, addiction, and incarceration. Today Daniel is a single father to his daughter, a recovery coach, a motivational speaker, serves on the board of trustees for Tri-State Trauma Network, AND he's inspiring recovery in others through his social media platform. Daniel’s recovery story is one for the ages and without question one you won’t want to miss so listen up.
Contact and Resources:
https://www.facebook.com/dantheweapon
www.cedaroakswellness.com
Daniels Cell #- 513-602-7438
www.tristatetraumanetwork.org
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: Drop the Rock: Removing Character Defects - Steps Six and Seven by Bill P. (Author), Todd Weber (Author), Sara S. (Author):
https://www.amazon.com/Drop-Rock-Removing-Character-Defects/dp/1592851614
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous:
https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Be open minded and have willingness"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Daniel- Mac Brock- Still in Control
https://youtu.be/sZnRzQ3_udE
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out, the Recovery Podcast Co-host with the most has a tremendous interview with Ohio recovery advocate and person in long term recovery, Daniel Ritchie. Daniel's journey to and through recovery to this point has been, in a word, intense. A journey that includes athleticism, abuse, MMA fighting, criminal behavior, addiction, and incarceration. Today Daniel is a single father to his daughter, a recovery coach, a motivational speaker, serves on the board of trustees for Tri-State Trauma Network, AND he's inspiring recovery in others through his social media platform. Daniel’s recovery story is one for the ages and without question one you won’t want to miss so listen up.
Contact and Resources:
https://www.facebook.com/dantheweapon
www.cedaroakswellness.com
Daniels Cell #- 513-602-7438
www.tristatetraumanetwork.org
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations: Drop the Rock: Removing Character Defects - Steps Six and Seven by Bill P. (Author), Todd Weber (Author), Sara S. (Author):
https://www.amazon.com/Drop-Rock-Removing-Character-Defects/dp/1592851614
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous:
https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best piece of Recovery Advice: "Be open minded and have willingness"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Daniel- Mac Brock- Still in Control
https://youtu.be/sZnRzQ3_udE
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this installment of The Way Out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason brings us a tremendous interview with peer recovery specialist, fellow recovery podcaster and person in long term recovery, Nathan Mitchell. Nathan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us and the path that led to an outstanding sense of purpose that may surprise you! Our Higher Power can often work in mysterious ways and this spiritual reality seems to be especially true in Nathan's case. It very much feels everything was mapped out for him. Nathan also throws out a challenge that’s very near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast and that challenge is for each and every one of us to get out there and make our voices be heard in only the we we can, because your voice matters and your story matters, so listen up.
Contact Nathan: nathanlmitchell@gmail.com
Recovery Resources Mentioned on this Episode:
http://www.mcshin.org/
https://www.facebook.com/McShinGetintheHerd
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: Emotional Sobriety: From Relationship Trauma to Resilience and Balance by Tian Dayton:
https://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Sobriety-Relationship-Resilience-Balance/dp/0757306098/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1656808282&sr=8-1
Best piece of Recovery advice: "Easy does it, but do it damnit!"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Nathan: Budding Tree's by Nahko and Medicine for the People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdWPfHOc8c
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this installment of The Way Out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason brings us a tremendous interview with peer recovery specialist, fellow recovery podcaster and person in long term recovery, Nathan Mitchell. Nathan shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us and the path that led to an outstanding sense of purpose that may surprise you! Our Higher Power can often work in mysterious ways and this spiritual reality seems to be especially true in Nathan's case. It very much feels everything was mapped out for him. Nathan also throws out a challenge that’s very near and dear to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast and that challenge is for each and every one of us to get out there and make our voices be heard in only the we we can, because your voice matters and your story matters, so listen up.
Contact Nathan: nathanlmitchell@gmail.com
Recovery Resources Mentioned on this Episode:
http://www.mcshin.org/
https://www.facebook.com/McShinGetintheHerd
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation: Emotional Sobriety: From Relationship Trauma to Resilience and Balance by Tian Dayton:
https://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Sobriety-Relationship-Resilience-Balance/dp/0757306098/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1656808282&sr=8-1
Best piece of Recovery advice: "Easy does it, but do it damnit!"
Song that symbolizes recovery to Nathan: Budding Tree's by Nahko and Medicine for the People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBdWPfHOc8c
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m ecstatic to bring you my interview with Recovery Coach, Recovery Podcaster, and person in long term Recovery Matt Gardiner. Matt hosts the Beyond Recovery Podcast and it was a true honor to share my journey to and through recovery to this point on his podcast recently, so check that out if you are so inclined and to that end, I’ve included a handy link to that episode in the show notes. Every once in a great while, you meet someone where everything just seems to click, and this is precisely what happened with Matt and I right off the bat - we quickly hit it off and it truly felt as we were old friends. We found we have so much in common, from our mutual love of great 90’s music like Nirvana, to playing guitar and songwriting, and from being bullied in adolescence to having a close friend in Recovery provide that essential helping hand to get into and launch ourselves into recovery. Throw in each of us having multiple attempts at recovery prior to our most recent and with any luck our last and both of us being Recovery Coaches, Recovery Podcasters and people in long term recovery we are indeed brothers from other mothers and our ensuing conversation is absolutely jam packed with spiritual and recovery truth as well as Matt’s journey to and through Recovery to this point so listen up.
Contact Matt:
https://linktr.ee/mattgardiner555
My interview with Matt on his Beyond Recovery Podcast:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/mattgardiner/audio1348297952
Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit):
Alcohol is SH!T: How to Ditch the Booze, Re-ignite Your Life, and Recover the Person you Were Always Meant to be by by Paul Churchill:
https://www.amazon.com/Alcohol-SH-Re-ignite-Recover-Person/dp/1086176545
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: 'The Opposite Of Addiction Is Not Sobriety. The Opposite Of Addiction Is Connection' - Yohann Hari
Songs that Symbolize Recovery:
Bulls on Parade by Rage Against the Machine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4
After the Goldrush by Neil Young:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOMaqe0LOmo
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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We had Darren Littlejohn on episode 176 two and half years ago to talk about his first book, The 12 Step Buddhist and he’s back to talk about his latest work Compassionate Recovery: Mindful Healing for Trauma and Addictions. The importance and need for the work contained in the aforementioned book by my friend Darren cannot be understated. To paraphrase Darren and to attempt to encapsulate his latest work, compassion and mindfulness is in so many ways the direction, it is the journey, it is the result, it is the manifestation, it is the fruition of much of what we’re trying to achieve in Recovery. Adverse Childhood Experiences, or ACES, trauma, and addiction cause emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual dysregulation that are very often well outside our window of tolerance. When this occurs, we resort to counterproductive thoughts and behaviors, that turn into patterns, that cause a negative feedback loop of deepening counterproductive behaviors. Addiction then, is on a spectrum and recovery too, is on a spectrum. Because addiction is progressive, so too must be our recovery. We must do the work, by identifying the wounds and applying the medicine so we can heal lest we experience unmanageable restlessness irritability and discontentedness or said another way dysregulation that can threaten emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual wellness and if left to continue to spiral downward can result in the ultimate consequence. The work and the medicine, in this case is self-compassion combined with mindfulness. Accept ourselves, connect with ourselves, be there for ourselves now and all times before this moment. When triggers come up, that threaten to be unmanageable the work is deploying tools and strategies to be there for ourselves with compassion and mindfulness. We can pause and choose to conjure self-compassion and mindfulness. Doing this work changes how we experience and respond to all situations in life in an increasingly manageable way that spirals up and raises our baseline and increasingly enables and strengthens our connection to ourselves, our spirituality and ultimately our connection to others which in a very visceral way is recovery personified.
Reach out to Darren Littlejohn:
https://www.compassionaterecovery.us/contact-us/
Learn more about Darren’s new book, Compassionate Recovery: Mindful Healing for Trauma and Addictions:
https://www.compassionaterecovery.us/
ACE Test: https://stopabusecampaign.org/take-your-ace-test/
Nadine Burke Harris - How childhood trauma affects health across a lifetime Ted Talk
https://www.ted.com/talks/nadine_burke_harris_how_childhood_trauma_affects_health_across_a_lifetime
Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit):
Feeding Your Demons: Ancient Wisdom for Resolving Inner Conflict by Tsultrim Allione:
https://www.amazon.com/Feeding-Your-Demons-Resolving-Conflict/dp/0316013137
Facing Love Addiction: Giving Yourself the Power to Change the Way You Love by Pia Mellody:
https://www.amazon.com/Facing-Love-Addiction-Giving-Yourself/dp/0062506048
Healing the Shame that Binds You by John Bradshaw:
https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Shame-Binds-Recovery-Classics/dp/0757303234
Darren’s Best Recovery Advice: Abandon yourself to God as you understand God
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin https://youtu.be/xbhCPt6PZIU
Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available only on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6HNQyyjlFBrDbOUADgw1Sz
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In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Hollywood Actress and person in long term recovery, Dedee Pfeiffer. Dedee has dawned both big screen and small and after a 10-year absence from Hollywood, Dedee Pfeiffer is back starring on the outstanding ABC drama "Big Sky." Which is about to drop its season 3 premier this Wednesday September 21st on ABC and Hulu. A single mother of two young men, Pfeiffer has been hard at work during her recent time away from Hollywood earning a bachelor's degree in psychology at Pierce College, Valley College and California State University Northridge. It was at UCLA where she earned a Master of Social Work. Her area of concentration includes mental illness, substance abuse and homelessness. Dedee shares her journey to and through recovery to this point with tremendous humor, disarming humility, true candor and the keen insight that can only come from the one and only Dedee Pfeiffer who’s greatest message just might be the extremely freeing and empowering feeling of Recovering Out Loud, which she does at every opportunity online, in person and with us here on The Way Out Podcast so listen up.
More about Dedee Pfeiffer:
https://abc.com/shows/big-sky/cast/dedee-pfeiffer
More about the ABC series Big Sky:
https://abc.com/shows/big-sky
Instead of Quit-Lit: Positive IG Affirmations & finding spirituality and love in animals and nature
Best piece of Recovery advice: Go from the identified problem to the identified solution and Get out of your own way
Song that symbolizes Recovery: The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m pleased to bring you my interview with author of the new book High: Confessions of a Cannabis Addict, editor of The Addiction Recovery E-Bulletin, and Producer of the 14 year old Reel Recovery Festival, Leonard Lee Buschel. With 28 years of continuous sobriety, Leonard shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with extraordinary insight combined with great storytelling, as you might expect from a newly minted author who’s been sober as long as Leonard has been. One of the greatest pearls of wisdom Leonard bestows upon us is the phenomenon of slowbriety, which has been invoked on this podcast more than a few times, yet bears highlighting, nonetheless. As the term infers, slowbriety is a term that describes our slow but sure emotional, spiritual, physical, and mental evolution in Recovery that results in an increasingly sound mind, body, and soul and the sounder we are in these three areas of being, the more fulfilling and rewarding our recovery and ultimately our lives are so listen up.
Contact Leonard:
leonard@writersintreatment.org
Learn more about High: Confessions of a Cannabis Addict
https://www.amazon.com/HIGH-Confessions-Leonard-Lee-Buschel/dp/1737926601
Learn more about the Addiction Recovery eBulletin:
https://addictionrecoveryebulletin.org/
Learn more about the Reel Recovery Festival:
https://www.writersintreatment.org/reel-recovery-film-festival/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41580312-be-here-now
Best piece of Recovery Advice:
Slowbriety and One Day at a Time
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now by McFadden & Whitehead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FW1WJc0lg
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In this edition of The Way Out, the raddest recovery podcast co-host in all the land brings us his interview with person in long term recovery Stancil Tootle. Tootle as most folks call him, shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us, which includes a whole lot of experience, strength and hope. Tootle was born blind and grew up in the country in rural Georgia. He just celebrated 32 years of continuous sobriety and has an amazing recovery story. Tootle shares openly and honestly about the barriers that he and others with disabilities have had to, and still face which are all too common, and his recovery is proof recovery is available to all folks regardless of physical ability. We can all get engaged with Tootle's warm hearted and joyful spirit so listen up.
Contact info for Tootle: 229-254-6630
Supporting Disabled People in Recovery Resources:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/938394900445342/
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Keep Coming Back!
Book : Love is Letting go of Fear: Gerald G. Jampolsky
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003E8AJ4W/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1
Song that symbolizes recovery:
I got my mojo workin'- Muddy Waters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM_86-k2h9o
or hear Tootle sing it here!!! https://youtu.be/MxMqPevbdZk
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In this edition of The Way Out I am honored to bring you my interview with Person in long term recovery, Tedx Speaker, career and life coach, Creator of the Recovery Playbook and co-founder of StartUp Recovery Gregg Champion. Gregg shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point in a way that inspires hope and conjures true relatability not so much through the specific events that highlight his coming of age or his highs or lows of active addiction and subsequent recovery – which I for one found quite relatable - but very much through the exceedingly human emotions and feelings behind these experiences, which we all can very much relate to indeed. One of the overarching messages that comes through loud and clear in Gregg’s Recovery story are, number one – sobriety and physical abstinence are merely just the beginning. The true magic of recovery is when we begin to incorporate daily routines that build our personal recovery capital across as many of the key recovery capitol domains as possible, which are broadly speaking personal, family and social, and community recovery capital. Equally as instructive in Gregg’s story is the fundamental truth that one of the greatest gifts we can experience in Recovery is that of having true purpose, or as Gregg calls it, passion – which along with building our recovery capital is key in achieving meaningful and enduring recovery so listen up.
Contact Gregg:
https://www.startuprecovery.com/contact
Learn more about StartUp Recovery:
https://www.startuprecovery.com
Documentary mentioned in this episode:
The Mask You Live In:
https://therepproject.org/how-to-watch-the-film-the-mask-you-live-in/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Fankl:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/mans-search-for-meaning-viktor-e-frankl/1116930713
Gregg’s Recovery Advice: Remain willing to be willing
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
One by U2:
https://youtu.be/ftjEcrrf7r0
We are the Champions by Queen:
https://youtu.be/KXw8CRapg7k
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In this rendition of the The Way Out I’m absolutely delighted to bring you a fascinating interview I had the pleasure of conducting with Moral Philosopher, Dr. of Philosophy and Author of the new book Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering, Peg O’Connor. Peg shares with us her extremely relatable journey to and through recovery with us with tremendous insight and self-awareness and how her self-described recovery journey experiment brought her to her important work on the varied nature and practical value of spirituality in recovery. At it’s very essence, spirituality has the profound ability to transform our suffering into a life of purpose and meaning, one that allows us to have right and rewarding relations with ourselves, our higher or friendly power or powers, and others. Peg and I have a wide ranging and amazing discussion on the history of the Higher Power concept in 12 Step recovery, the destructive myth of having to reach Rock Bottom in order to Recover – spoiler alert – you don’t, your bottom is when you stop digging, and what precisely Higher and Friendly powers can do for us in a very practical way in our own recovery so listen up.
Contact Dr. Peg O’Connor:
https://gustavus.edu/profiles/poconnor
Learn More about Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering:
https://www.amazon.com/Higher-Friendly-Powers-Transforming-Addiction/dp/1736075063
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: The Urge: Our History of Addiction by Dr. Carl Erik Fisher
https://www.carlerikfisher.com/book
Best piece of Recovery advice - Trust yourself
Book -The Urge: Our History of Addiction by Dr. Carl Erik Fisher
https://www.carlerikfisher.com/book
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive:
https://vimeo.com/354003070
Sister Sledge - We Are Family:
https://youtu.be/uyGY2NfYpeE
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond excited to bring you my interview with fellow Recovery podcaster and person in long term recovery, Matt J. Matt shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with a remarkable forthrightness and with the unmistakable tenor of someone that takes his program of recovery and his sobriety seriously and at the same time of a man that doesn’t take himself too seriously which in many respects is what we’re all after in recovery. Matt and I had a fantastic time as he regaled his recovery story and we then launched into a lively discussion that traversed the proverbial sobriety waterfront, from 12-Step history to the value of multiple recovery pathways as well as the value of both in person and virtual recovery meetings and last but certainly not least the tremendous value of Recovery podcasts like The Way Out Podcast and the Sober Friends podcast so listen up.
Check out the Sober Friends Podcast with Matt J:
https://soberfriendspod.com/
Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Living Sober:
https://www.aa.org/living-sober-book
Writing The Big Book by William H. Schaberg:
https://www.writingthebigbook.com/
Best piece of Recovery Advice: This too shall pass
Song that symbolizes recovery to Matt:
Eye of the Tiger by Survivor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m absolutely delighted to bring you my interview with Hollywood Actor and person in long term Recovery, Richie Stephens. Richie Stephens is an Irish actor and writer who lives in Los Angeles, California. He is best known for playing villains on TV and in films, including Blue Bloods, MacGyver, Criminal Minds, and Days of Our Lives, his appearances in multiple Florence and the Machine music videos, and his ability to do a broad range of accents. He has appeared in over one hundred stage and screen productions and is a member of Oscar-winner Bobby Moresco’s Actor’s Gym—an exclusive group of working actors and writers. He’s been a circuit speaker in recovery groups, and he actively works with the homeless at The Midnight Mission and The Center in Hollywood. Richie can now add Author to that impressive list of film, stage, and TV credits with his new book The Gangster’s guide to Sobriety: My Life in 12 Steps. Richie shares with us his journey to and through Recovery to this point in his unique and compelling brand of storytelling, which is laced with distinctively dark humor and poignant moments that carry powerfully universal spiritual and recovery truths throughout a life story that as captivating as it is inspirational and is proof positive that meaningful and long-term recovery is not just possible but absolutely worth every ounce of effort it calls us to put forth so listen up.
Learn more about Richie Stephens:
http://richiestephens.com/
Learn more about
The Gangster’s guide to Sobriety: My Life in 12 Steps:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Gangsters-Guide-to-Sobriety/Richie-Stephens/9781637581902
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Book The Big Book
Best piece of Recovery advice – Take sobriety One Day at a Time
Song that symbolizes Recovery: The Black Eyed Peas - I Got a Feeling
https://youtu.be/ipii7KbbJLY
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In this edition of The Way Out we bring you my interview with author of the new book Fireflies - Finding Light on a Journey Through Addiction and person in long term recovery on the family side, Lea Laucks. Lea shares with us her journey to and through recovery and sheds important light on how addiction and alcoholism affects the lives of those who live with and love the person suffering from a substance use disorder. She shares that there’s help for those who find themselves in the throes of the chaos created by addiction, and Lea found that help in large part through the support and working the 12-Steps of Al-Anon. As you’ll soon hear for yourself Lea’s story, and thus her book, serves as a testament that recovery on the family side of addiction is possible and absolutely worth it so listen up.
Contact Lea:
fireflysobriety@gmail.com
Learn more about Lea Lauck’s book:
Fireflies: Finding Light on a Journey Through Addiction
https://www.amazon.com/Fireflies-Finding-Journey-Through-Addiction/dp/B09RGQR3K3
Book - Courage to Change (Al-Anon):
https://al-anon.org/for-members/members-resources/literature/feature-publications/courage-to-change-one-day-at-a-time-in-al-anon-ii-b16/
Advice - It works if you work it so work it because you're worth it!
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Lea - Cage the Elephant Love’s The Only Way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKOREmeskA
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In this edition of The Way Out, we bring you my interview with Author of the new Book “My Life with Karma”, Recovery Coach, and person in long term recovery Travis Sackett. Travis shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with true humility and genuine relatability. Travis’s story is ultimately one of survival of a tumultuous childhood and subsequent, rather wicked addiction to OxyContin which lead to nearly losing everything but his life, a life which Travis contemplated ending. Everything, including his job in law enforcement and indeed his freedom in having to spend time in jail as a former law enforcement officer. Everything, and Everything, except his rescue dog, aptly named Karma. Travis and Karma became constant companions in recovery, a recovery which led to successfully treating and addressing both his addiction and mental health, and that lead no longer merely surviving, but truly thriving in recovery and indeed life so listen up.
Contact Travis:
https://www.facebook.com/travis.sackett.1
Learn more about the Book “My Life with Karma” by Travis Sackett:
https://www.amazon.com/My-Life-Karma-Travis-Sackett/dp/1637304544
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation Book - The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous:
https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Best Piece of Recovery Advice - Be honest with yourself and others
Song – Crash by The Dave Mathews Band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7in-9E3ImQ
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In this installment of The Way Out, I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you my interview with Life Coach, Author, Speaker, and person in long term recovery Kellan Fluckiger. Kellan shares his journey to and through Recovery to this point with unmistakable transparency and with a clear and powerful message: You can recover, regardless of anything or anyone and then you can discover, develop, and serve yourself and others with purpose through your unique gifts in the spirit of genuine love. As Kellan reminds us, this kind of life is made possible if we’re willing to lean in and do the hard work, we’re being called to do in our personal recovery journeys. Indeed, we can work to heal our emotional injuries, shed counterproductive thought and behavior patterns, connect to a Higher Power or Higher Self, reconnect to and love ourselves, so that we can truly connect to and love others with our unique gifts and talents. This all may sound unattainable, but I assure you it’s not only possible it’s absolutely worth every bit of effort we put into it and to that end I submit as evidence to the affirmative the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears as Exhibit A so listen up.
Contact Kellan:
https://www.kellanfluckiger.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Waterfall Effect by Paul H. Burton:
https://www.amazon.com/Waterfall-Effect-Principles-Productive-Leadership/dp/0981891144
Best piece of Recovery Advice: Love and Forgive Yourself Freely!
Song that symbolizes recovery: Hallelujah Road by Kellan Fluckiger
Kellan's Music:
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5mzbIgEQIQPIjDqE6AaAC4
https://open.spotify.com/artist/5mzbIgEQIQPIjDqE6AaAC4
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m over the moon excited about bringing you my interview with Author, Poet, Teacher, and person in long-term Recovery Peter Murphy. Peter shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with a candor and wry humor that’s as compelling as it is enlightening. Anyone who is in recovery from addiction is by definition a truly remarkable human being, and Peter is no exception, especially considering his childhood trauma and chaotic family of origin. After years of struggling with the internal and external consequences of alcohol addiction, Peter has a fateful encounter with the Bahai Faith which offered much of what 12-Step Recovery offers us – spiritual connection, community, self-examination, amend making, and abstinence from drugs and alcohol and thus Peter’s recovery journey began in earnest and provided the fertile soil for Peter to uncover and unleash the Poet, Author, and Teacher within him. Far from being a happily ever after, peter experienced a sober bottom that prompted his active participation in 12-Step Recovery, which led him to lean in and do the hard work that ultimately resulted in meaningful, rewarding, and enduring recovery made up of beautiful relationships so listen up.
Contact Peter:
Email peteremurphy9@gmail (dot) com or leave a message at 6zero9 823 5zero76
Peter Murphy’s Writing:
https://peteremurphy.com/
https://murphywriting.com/
More about the Bahai Faith:
https://www.bahai.org/
Recommended Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit)
Eight Million Ways to Die by Lawrence Block:
https://lawrenceblock.com/books/eight-million-ways-to-die/
The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath by Leslie Jamison:
https://www.amazon.com/Recovering-Intoxication-Its-Aftermath/dp/0316259616
Bright Lights, Big City by Jay McInerney:
https://www.amazon.com/Bright-Lights-Big-City-McInerney/dp/0394726413
Best piece of recovery advice - Don't give up!
Song that symbolizes recovery:
Marlene Dietrich "You Go To My Head":
https://youtu.be/AwJ-kY15eFE
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I’m Charlie in this 300th rendition of the They Way Out we’re counting down our top ten recovery truths we’ve collectively learned up to this point from each of our individual recovery journeys as well as through the work we’ve done on this very podcast. Each and every person we’ve had the distinct honor of having on the show has taught us and reinforced universal recovery truths that have had a profound impact on our individual recoveries, and therefore our lives and we’ve been able to increasingly incorporate this collective truth into each episode for the sole purpose of aiding you, The Way Out Podcast listener in your journey to and through recovery. Regardless of where you are in that journey, our primary purpose is to Recover Out Loud with as much spiritual and recovery truth as possible so that others understand that Recovery is not only possible, it’s absolutely worth every ounce of effort we put toward it. What’s about to unfold before your very ears is our best effort in presenting a culmination of everything we’ve learned through our individual recovery programs and journeys as well as everything everyone has taught us about Recovery so listen up.
*It has come to our attention that we neglected to cover #7 (Self-Care is critical to our recovery and well-being) on our Top Ten List of Recovery Truths in this episode. Our bad! Just another example of how easy it is to neglect self-care! The good news is that we've done two entire episodes on this topic, so check 'em out:
https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/episodes/Self-Love--Care-Vs-Selfishness--The-Way-Out-Podcast-Episode-174-eafiku
https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/episodes/Boundaries-in-Recovery---The-Way-Out-Podcast-Episode-128-e3e2tq
Top Ten Recovery Truths We’ve Learned Thus Far:
https://1drv.ms/b/s!Agoc2NGKvVF2malvs3e9rzfKLFgYyw?e=bpIpIB
Blog post referenced in this episode:
https://thewayoutasobrietyrecoverypodcast.wordpress.com/2022/06/14/the-journey-to-a-god-of-my-understanding/
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In this edition of the The Way Out the finest recovery podcast co-host in all the land had the distinct pleasure of talking with Vince Garrett and as you all will soon find out they had a ton in common. This commonality is no more evident than when they delve into the depravity that intravenous drug use brought out of them in their respective active addictions, such as the insane, reckless things they were capable of just to feed the proverbial monkey on their backs. On the flip side Jason and Vince also discuss the tremendous blessings that came from finding a safe space to share, and how the God of their respective understanding works in the most unexpected ways! Without question this discussion goes unflinchingly deep into the dark spaces and unapologetically into all of the light places so listen up.
Contact Vince- siwatugarrett@gmail.com
Book recommendation: Narcotics Anonymous: How it works and Why
https://www.amazon.com/Works-How-Why-Traditions-Narcotics/dp/1557762554/ref=sr_1_1?crid=MYP1LNSERG9E&keywords=na+how+it+works+and+why&qid=1653881441&sprefix=na+how%2Caps%2C506&sr=8-1
Best Advice: "Do what's right in front of you"
Song that symbolizes recovery: Don't Give Up by Gil Scott Heron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3UYtwWk31Q
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m absolutely thrilled to bring you what turned out to be a conversation that was at once extremely resonant and outright entertaining with Amanda White. Amanda is a licensed therapist, author of the new book Not Drinking Tonight – A Guide to Creating a Sober Life You Love, and person in long term recovery since 2015. Perhaps one of the most enlightening aspects of Amanda’s recovery is the immutable truth that our last bottom doesn’t have to be our lowest or worst bottom, that we don’t have to hit a proverbial rock bottom, and then ultimately our bottom is when we stop digging. Equally as instructive is the undeniable value of adding therapy to our program of recovery, especially if we have experienced trauma, adverse childhood experiences, or have a mental health issue. Finally, as you’ll soon hear, much of the work Amanda does professionally and writes about in her new book is centered on the truth that we are not stuck with our default thought and behavior reaction patterns for eternity, that indeed we can change and choose to mindfully respond instead of reacting to our counterproductive auto-thoughts. Often referred to as emotional sobriety in 12-Step recovery and an aspect of recovery we work hard to highlight and demystify, this next level recovery allows us to recognize these counterproductive auto-thoughts, pause, and then make a choice to act in a way that’s consistent with the people we truly want to be – and that my brothers and sisters is more than half the battle and what it looks like to get out of our own way so we can authentically connect to ourselves and then others in a meaningful way. Amanda shares with us her journey to and through recovery to this point with disarming humor, clear insight, and with the unique perspective of a licensed therapist who’s herself in recovery so listen up.
Contact Amanda:
https://amandaewhite.com/
More about Not Drinking Tonight: A Guide to Creating a Sober Life You Love:
https://amandaewhite.com/book
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) recommendation - Daring Greatly by Brene Brown:
https://brenebrown.com/book/daring-greatly/
Best piece of Recovery advice - Willingness without action is fantasy. We can be willing to be willing!
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Unwritten by Natasha Bedingfield
https://youtu.be/b7k0a5hYnSI
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In this edition of The Way Out The best recovery cohost in the business has a tremendous conversation with new friend, Brett Morris, who created the Recovery Survey Podcast and Co-hosts the Recovery Revolution Live podcast! Brett is also a new Dad, a loving husband and an all-around fantastic human! His passion for spreading the message of recovery is only surpassed by his commitment to it! Brett shares so much of the good stuff in this episode, including how to maintain a healthy balance through it all, which may be the most elusive recovery goal of all so listen up.
contact info: brett@recovery-revolution.org
http://www.recoverysurvey.com
https://m.facebook.com/recoverysurvey
https://www.instagram.com/recoverysurvey/
https://mobile.twitter.com/recoverysurvey
Book recommendation: NA Basic Text
Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text 6th Edition Hardcover: Anonymous:
https://www.amazon.com/Narcotics-World-Service-Office/dp/1557767343/ref=sr_1_1?crid=EUN22MQZTI4I&keywords=na+basic+text&qid=1650824418&sprefix=na+basic%2Caps%2C482&sr=8-1
Best piece of advice: " You can't have one foot in and one foot out of recovery. You're either all in or you're all out."
Song that reminds Brett of recovery: Modest Mouse - The Good Times Are Killing Me
https://youtu.be/7_uuetc0Jns
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In this edition of The Way Out we have for you a phenomenal interview with addiction therapist, person in long term recovery, and author of The New Book “Resolving Spiritual Skepticism in Recovery: Putting the Universe to Work for You, Andrew Pierce. Perhaps one of greatest hurdles folks have in embarking on the 12-Step program of recovery or the compatible Minnesota Model of addiction treatment is the concept of adopting a Higher Power that can aid in our Recovery. Those of you Way Out faithful that have listened to this podcast for a hot minute know that prior to entering recovery I had deep seeded resentment, skepticism, and an unhealthy dose of ambivalence on the idea of God, especially one that could help me in any meaningful way. Andrew’s work in his new book centers squarely on this barrier that I and many others have faced in a particularly practical manner in that it focuses on what the problem is, which is the maladaptive thought and behavior patterns that make up addiction and precisely how spirituality both functionally works and can be of enormous value to our recovery journey. His work passes the proverbial smell test in that what he lays out in the book aligns with my own collective spiritual experiences and journey to this point. The HOW of Recovery, Honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness are essential in an effort to embark upon an individual spiritual journey and to develop a relationship with a Higher Power that can really work for you no matter where you are at with regard to your current attitudes and beliefs with respect to all things spiritual. Andrew’s work amounts to a field guide that can help us understand the nature of addiction, the process of recovery, and how even the deepest spiritual skeptic can develop a sense of practical spirituality that can make a real difference in our lives. What we’re ultimately working to achieve is first authentic connection to our true selves, then authentic and rewarding connection to others and ultimately an authentic and meaningful connection to a Power Greater than Ourselves and to that end Andrew’s book is an essential contribution to that goal and the interview that is about to unfold before your ready and willing ears will most certainly make a compelling case for resolving your own spiritual skepticism so listen up.
Contact Andrew and learn more about his new book Resolving Spiritual Skepticism in Recovery: Putting the Universe to Work for You
https://www.andrewgpierce.com/
Book - Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Dr. Joe Dispenza:
https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Habit-Being-Yourself-Create/dp/1401938094
Advice - You have Choice what you choose to hitch your emotions to. You don't have to be victimized by your emotional response to life's events and circumstances
Song - She Talks to Angels by the Black Crowes:
https://youtu.be/H58gMiQQRm0
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In this rendition of The Way Out, our extraordinary co-host Jason speaks with woman in long term recovery Honesty Liller. Honesty is the Author of the new memoir "Scattered Pink: A Diary of a Woman in Recovery" and she is the CEO of The McShin Foundation, a nationally recognized nonprofit Recovery Community Organization based in Richmond, Virginia. Truly living up to her name in her discussion with Jason, Honesty doesn't hold back the truth of how messy, difficult, and beautiful recovery can be as she shares her extremely relatable journey to and through recovery to this point. Out of her harrowing bout with addiction, Honesty began to truly connect to her peers in Recovery at McShin, got to work on her recovery, and began to work for The McShin Foundation, which she credits for saving her very life and his given her true purpose and a meaningful and enduring recovery so listen up.
Contact Honesty:
honestyliller@gmail.com
Instagram: @diaryofawomaninrecovery
FB: @honestyliller
Recovery Resources and her book:
Scattered Pink - eBook
https://www.amazon.com/Scattered-Pink-Diary-Woman-Recovery-ebook/dp/B09MVH6B2R/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3ADC4M7XHXM7M&keywords=scattered+pink+ebook&qid=1647976887&sprefix=scattered+pink%2Caps%2C57&sr=8-1
Scattered Pink - Paperback
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/scattered-pink-honesty-liller/1140956208?ean=9798985274103
The McShin Foundation
http://www.mcshin.org/
Book recommendation: Present over Perfect by Shauna Niequist
https://www.amazon.com/Present-Over-Perfect-Leaving-Frantic/dp/0310346711/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1648311751&sr=1-1
Best piece of advice: "Don't use no matter what!"
Songs that symbolize recovery:
You don't do it for me anymore by Demi Lovato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maR-BfpOarc
Is This Love by Bob Marley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-2RHvGSvYQ
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In this edition of The Way Out, our prodigious co-host with the most has an outstanding discussion with person in long term recovery, peer recovery specialist, mental health professional and recovery advocate Tom Jackson. Tom is a longtime and self-proclaimed "policy nerd" who has been doing recovery advocacy work on the national legislative level since the days of the HIV/AIDS epidemic of the 1980's. Tom shares his decades long journey to and through recovery to this point with us along with his hard earned wisdom and experience, all of which is yours to relish in the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears, so listen up.
Contact Info: jacksonta@gmail.com
Resource links:
http://wsh.dbhds.virginia.gov/
https://www.facebook.com/VirginiaRecoveryAdvocacyProject
http://recoveryvoices.com/
Book recommendation:
The Urge: Our History of Addiction by Carl Erik Fisher:
https://www.harvard.com/book/the_urge/
Listen to Carl Erik Fisher’s interview with Charlie in Episode 254:
Flourishing After Addiction with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher | The Way Out Podcast Episode 254
https://anchor.fm/the-way-out-podcast/episodes/Flourishing-After-Addiction-with-Dr--Carl-Erik-Fisher--The-Way-Out-Podcast-Episode-254-e15vi9a
Best piece of advice: "Don't take yourself so damn seriously"
Song that symbolizes recovery: Elton John - The One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85B_REWeNcM
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m beyond excited to bring you an exceptional interview with person in long term recovery on the family side and author of The Connected Leader: 7 Strategies to Empower Your True Self and Inspire Others, Karen Hardwick. Karen shares with us her journey to and through recovery to this point and embodied with it an empowering message of the power of connection. Karen shares how only authentic connection to our true selves and inner truth can result in genuine connection to others which is in many ways the antidote to addiction. The Way Out faithful will recall the familiar refrain of what the 12-Steps remedy on a macro level, and in a word it’s relationships. First, we address our problematic relationship with substances, behaviors, or people. That’s Step One. Next, we address our relationship with a power greater than ourselves. That’s the 2nd and 3rd Steps. In Steps 4 through 7, we address our relationship with ourselves. Then and only then, can we repair and build genuine relationships with others, because we’re connecting from our authentic selves, which creates the kind of pure acceptance that cannot be imitated by any substance or addictive behavior. We then have the opportunity to take this relationship transformation to the next level which is all about continuing the process we started of embracing our true selves and systematically discarding counterproductive thought and behavior patterns, flaws or character defects if you will, that get in the way of true connection to ourselves and others. Karen likes to call this being flawsome! Our flaws, which are often rooted in big or small traumas, reveal the ways in which we have opportunities to grow in our recovery. To be sure, the 12-Steps aren’t the only way to do this important work, as we’ve highlighted on this podcast in a variety of ways and will continue to do so. Dating way back to our hunter and gatherer days we’ve been biologically programmed to seek this sort of authentic connection for our very survival, because not being accepted into a group then meant certain death from predators or starvation. This fundamental drive is just as important to our well-being today as it was then because the lack of connection and acceptance can wreak havoc on us in myriad ways mentally, emotionally, and physically. Karen shares how we can make the daily, active decision to lean into, and indeed embrace our true selves and begin the transformational journey of authentically connecting to our selves and others so that we can truly recover and if we chose, become connected leaders for ourselves and the people we surround ourselves with so listen up.
Contact Karen Hardwick:
https://karenjhardwick.com/
More about The Connected Leader - 7 Strategies to Empower Your True Self and Inspire Others:
https://connectedleaderbook.com/
Karen's Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Bible
How Al-Anon Works:
https://al-anon.org/for-members/members-resources/literature/feature-publications/how-al-anon-works-for-families-and-friends-of-alcoholics/
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Call Your Sponsor!
Song that Symbolizes Recovery for Karen: Rescue by Lauren Daigle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PugD11k3JU
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In this edition of The Way Out, our spectacular recovery co-host Jason brings us a must listen interview with a tireless, passionate, and humble servant in the Minnesota Recovery community, Bridge May Sky! Bridge has had a long hard road, especially with her recovery. Service turned out to be the magic ingredient that she needed to achieve meaningful and enduring recovery. Bridge shares her journey to and through recovery to this point and how being of service has completely changed the game for her. A single mother of 5, Bridge is an absolute superstar - a true champion for the recovery community and a fantastic mom to boot! Bridge is also the creator and host of her own live interactive podcast called K.I.S.S. Recovery 101 where both Jason and I had the honor of being guests to share our stories and talk Recovery. In addition, Bridge is also a recovery coach at Minnesota Recovery Connection and true to her M.O. she has some other exciting things in the ‘ol works! You’ll definitely want to stay tuned to hear Bridge’s amazing recovery story and all of the spiritual and recovery wisdom embodied within it so listen up.
Contact:
Bridge Sky
Recovery Navigator
MN Recovery Connection
612-584-4158
minnesotarecovery.org
Recovery Resources
KISS Recovery 101
https://youtu.be/OXja21AsO1E
Bad Mom's
https://www.facebook.com/groups/badmomsclub247/
Back to Basics
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3608037505877185/
Serenity Shores
https://www.facebook.com/groups/495983208307652/
Treatment/Literature Committees
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7232320436841673/?ref=share
Rise Up Hour
https://www.facebook.com/groups/riseuphour/?ref=share
Best Advice- "Don't live in the past, or the past won't let you live."
Book Recommendation:
5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Languages-Secret-that-Lasts/dp/080241270X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=COTR2MJ251N8&keywords=5+love+languages&qid=1649286151&sprefix=5+love%2Caps%2C262&sr=8-1
Song that reminds Bridge of recovery: Meet me in the woods by Lord Heron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOsLdBqbPA
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m beyond thrilled to bring you an outstanding interview with person in recovery, loyal listener of The Way Out, and now our special guest to share his journey to and through recovery to this point, Ryan Kemmers. I just know all you all will find Ryan’s story super relatable just like I did, from a chaotic childhood, to the impact of alcoholism and addiction in the family to self-medicating mental health symptoms and perhaps most universal the inevitable progression of use to abuse, and ultimately ever deepening addiction and alcoholism. Ryan shares how “Ryan’s Way” as he refers to it didn’t work in attempting to manage his drinking and what it took to finally surrender and ask a Higher Power he had no relationship with and didn’t even understand for help. What happens next, and by next, I mean quite literally the next day, which I refuse to spoil in this here intro, is nothing short of an act of providence and launches Ryan into a 12-Step centered recovery that until that moment he never thought was possible. Ryan went all in on Recovery and now he shares with us all the tools, skills, and resources, including working the 12-Steps in order with a sponsor and this very podcast, that propelled him into a meaningful and rewarding recovery so listen up.
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Six: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Heroin-Diaries-Ten-Year-Anniversary-Edition/Nikki-Sixx/9781501187544
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Recovery comes to those who want it
Songs that symbolize Recovery:
Come Back to Earth by Mac Miller:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ocPPhtglU
Life is Beautiful by SIXX A.M.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX2KYuAJcA
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On this edition of The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason brings us an interview with the Director of a New York based nonprofit organization Hope on a Mission, Cara Mia Bacchiochi. This woman is a true warrior for her community. Her street outreach started and grew on one street corner, simply by loving on the people in the neighborhood by providing those in need with meals and personal hygiene products. Cara shares her journey to and through recovery to this point, how all of her community service came to be, and how it has continued to evolve. Cara’s recovery story is one of redemption and the transformative power of the God of Her Understanding working wonders in her life and as a result the lives of many others so listen up.
Contact Cara Mia at hopeonamission@gmail.com
Recovery resources and related links:
https://www.hopeonamission.org/
https://for-ny.org/
https://www.samhsa.gov/
https://oasas.ny.gov/
https://www.asapnys.org/
Best Piece of Advice: "Stay in your square"
Book recommendation: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
Song that symbolizes recovery:
You Say by Lauren Daigle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaT8Jl2zpI
Touch the Sky by Hillsong UNITED
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=eBmbPEi5LR4&feature=share
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In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got an outstanding interview with Interventionist, Recovery Coach, Author, Podcaster, speaker and person in long-term recovery, Rob Lohman. As Rob shares with us in our interview, all the amazing aforementioned titles attached to Rob’s name are the result of his anything but linear journey to and through recovery to this point which is precisely why Rob’s story is so incredibly relatable, enlightening, and moving. After years of sobriety Rob experienced a personal crisis due to what in retrospect amounted to failing to continue to progress and stay connected to his recovery. A crisis, that landed him in prison, and out of that Rob began a renewed journey to a fuller, more enduring and rewarding Recovery that was the result of leaning in and doing the hard work true recovery requires. The results have been nothing short of remarkable for Rob, his family, and for the people his amazing work in Recovery coaching, Podcasting, Speaking, and writing touches and truly helps, all of which Rob shares with us in the interview that’s about to unfold before your very ears so listen up.
Contact Rob Lohman
https://liftedfromtherut.com/about/
Addiction, Freedom, and Faith Podcast with Rob Lohman:
https://liftedfromtherut.com/podcasts/addiction-freedom-faith-podcast/
Beyond the Bars Radio Podcast with Rob Lohman:
https://liftedfromtherut.com/the-beyond-the-bars-radio-podcast/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation:
Alcoholics Anonymous (Big Book): https://www.aa.org/the-big-book
Victory over the Darkness: https://freedominchrist.com/victoryoverthedarkness-new.aspx
Recovery Advice: You can be anything as long as your spiritual conditioning is right
Song that symbolizes Recovery: No Longer Slaves by Zach Williams: https://youtu.be/bDnA_coA168
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In this edition of The Way Out Our spectacular co-host Jason has a fantastic interview with person in long term recovery, Edward Charpentier. Edward shares his rollercoaster ride of a journey to and through recovery to this point with us which is jam packed with practical advice and sage recovery wisdom. This undeniable wealth of wisdom Ed shares is no doubt the result of many ups, plenty of downs and years in and out of recovery and proof positive that success is often the end result of repeated failures. Indeed, these failures served as lessons that only strengthened Ed on his path to meaningful and enduring recovery. Our hope is each and every one of you get as much out of this interview as we did, so listen up.
Contact Edward at Ejcllc7@gmail.com
Book Recommendation: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1878424319/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
Best Advice: Be a man of integrity and do the right thing when no-one is looking.
Song that symbolizes recovery to Ed: Easy on Me by Adele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-yIEMduRXk
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In this edition of The Way Out we have a fantastic interview with public speaker and author in Recovery, Brendon Watt. As a lead facilitator with Access Consciousness, Brendon empowers others to know they are not wrong, that anything is possible, and that they are just one choice away from change. Brendon shares with us his journey to and through recovery to this point as well as a wealth of recovery and wellness wisdom and how his recovery has turned into a superpower in his work in empowering others in their own journeys of personal growth. Recovery affords us the opportunity to lean into the tools of our recovery program of choice and embrace a path to increasingly greater wellness which leads to a state of emotional sobriety and that results in rewarding and enduring recovery and an unmistakable sense of wellbeing. Brendon’s story is proof positive that when we prioritize getting well ourselves first, we can be of far greater service to others as a direct result so listen up.
Contact Brendon Watt:
https://www.brendonwatt.com/
Access Consciousness:
https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/
Book - Right Recovery for You
https://www.accessconsciousness.com/en/micrositesfolder/right-recovery-for-you/
Advice - You're going to have to learn to care for YOU
Song - Pearl Jam Even Flow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxKWTzr-k6s
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In this rendition of The Way Out Ashley Grimes sits down with Recovery Podcast co-host and all around recovery superstar Jason and, as happens so often here on The Way Out Podcast blows our collective minds at the power of recovery. As you’ll soon hear, Ashely is a true recovery powerhouse. Ashley shares with us her seemingly hopeless journey to and through recovery to this point and how she ended up becoming the President of Florida chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, or NAMI, an organizer with the Florida Recovery Advocacy Project, co-host of the Recovery Revolution Podcast, and perhaps most importantly, she got to be a mother again! There's so much hope and wisdom in this episode so listen up.
Contact Ashley: www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-grimes-pmp
https://www.facebook.com/aopibull84/
Recovery Resources:
www.recoveryvoices.com
www.namiflorida.org
www.volusiarecoveryalliance.org
Book Recommendation: Addiction Manifesto by JR Weaver
https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Manifesto-Weaver-Jr/
Best Piece of advice: "Take it one day at a time, putting one foot in front of the other, and keep doing the next right thing."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Beauty in the Struggle by Bryan Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTv2SzvZ0ys
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m incredibly honored to bring you an exceptionally powerful, illuminating, relatable, and inspiring interview with person in long term recovery and co-founder of Workit Health, Lisa McLaughlin. Lisa and I had a lot in common coming of age in the same era in the Midwest of the U.S., albeit in different cities proper, which made for one of the most entertaining interviews I’ve personally done, and for that matter one of the best we’ve ever had on The Way Out in quite some time. Lisa shares with us her journey to and through recovery to this point with remarkable insight, introspection, and relatability that’s at once revealing and instructive to our own individual recovery journeys. What’s more, Lisa shares the collective experiences that motivated her to found Workit Health along with co-founder Robin McIntosh, which is a tele-medicine care service focused on treating Substance Use Disorder that offers a wide range of services including harm reduction, medication assisted recovery, CBT, and mental health services to address all of the needs of the human being that is seeking care. So many of us in Recovery can relate to the agonizing experience of the death of a loved due to Substance Use Disorder, and Lisa is no exception. Their mission is embodied by a phrase she shares with us in the interview, “We do what we do for the lost, to the living”. Together, Lisa and Robin decided that they were going to do something about it by creating Workit Health to address the gaps in the existing model of care for Substance Use Disorder and bring all established methodologies and interventions to bear through a single, low barrier, source. Lisa and I have a captivating discussion about the importance of embracing all pathways to recovery and recovering out loud as she shares her amazing recovery journey, all the while spreading the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is absolutely possible and totally worth it when you Workit so listen up.
More about Workit Health:
https://www.workithealth.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) recommendations:
The Spirituality of Imperfection by Ernest Kurtz and Katherine Ketcham:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/96307/the-spirituality-of-imperfection-by-ernest-kurtz-and-katherine-ketcham/
Growth Mindset book by Carol S. Dweck:
https://www.amazon.com/Mindset-Psychology-Carol-S-Dweck/dp/0345472322
Best piece of recovery advice - You're only as sick as your secrets
Song - Eye of the Tiger by Survivor:
https://youtu.be/btPJPFnesV4
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In this edition of The Way Out, recovery podcast co-host Jason has a tremendous interview with two persons in long term recovery and a true power couple in the recovery community, Aleksandra Bembnista and Tony Cassese. Aleksandra is the founder of the nonprofit organization Glorious Recovery, and Tony is an addiction recovery professional. We get to hear their individual stories and talk about how they met. We'll also learn what Glorious Recovery is all about, how they bring joy to people in recovery, and explore what the future looks like for each of them! There's a whole lot of passion for Recovery and Recovery wisdom shared in the enlightening Recovery centric discussion that’s about to unfold right before your very ears so listen up.
Best piece of advice:
Alex = "Open your eyes! The recovery world is so BIG! Recovery can be whatever you want it to be!"
Tony = "Identify and maintain your own balance" and "You can't save your ass and your face at the same time."
Book Recommendations:
Alex= American Fix by Ryan Hampton
https://www.amazon.com/American-Fix-Inside-Opioid-Addiction/
Tony= How it Works and Why, Narcotics Anonymous: Twelve Steps and Traditions
https://www.amazon.com/Works-How-Why-Traditions-Narcotics-Anonymous
Songs that symbolize recovery:
Alex = Glorious by Macklemore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OrLroFa0AI
Tony = How many times by Joe Nester:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9P613nTNo
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In this edition of The Way Out, we have a tremendously insightful and beneficial interview with therapist and accomplished Author of numerous books, including The Proactive 12-Steps: A Mindful Program for Lasting Change, Serge Prengel. At the center of the work in Serge’s new book is two fundamental truths; the first is that in Recovery, indeed fundamentally as humans we will encounter counterproductive thought and behavior patterns that will interfere with our ability to experience moments of peace and happiness and a life that is marked with joy and serenity to the exact extent and proportion to the severity of our existing maladaptive coping mechanisms. The second, and perhaps more important, is that the 12-Steps can truly be a design for living when we apply them to our lives in a proactive fashion resulting in concrete and enduring behavior change, a formula that we can use to address any counterproductive thought or behavior pattern that is causing the universally human experience of suffering and getting in the way of our ability to enjoy life. In short, we have the opportunity as people in Recovery to stop getting in our own way and mindfully and actively choose to pause and if so inclined, invite in our Higher Power and then respond or not respond to events and circumstances in our lives in an increasingly healthy way that is consistent with the people, we ultimately aim to be instead of reacting with our default programming. Serge’s message is one I wholeheartedly agree with, which is if we chose to embark on this journey of the Proactive 12-Steps it is both a process and a practice, and we shouldn’t expect to instantly eliminate all our undesirable thought and behavior patterns and replace them with ideal responses overnight. This work is what enduring and rewarding Recovery is all about, indeed this work generates the personal growth that results in what is often referred to as emotional sobriety, and the discussion that’s about to unfold before your very ears will illustrate precisely how we achieve this seemingly illusive and enlightened state of consciousness, so listen up.
Contact Serge Prengel:
https://proactivechange.com/and/contact/index.htm
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: The Proactive 12-Steps: A Mindful Program for Lasting Change by Serge Prengel:
https://proactive12steps.com/
Best piece of advice: Find one or a group of peers in recovery or likeminded friend to work through The Proactive 12-Steps
Song that reminds serge of Recovery – No specific song, but a classical symphony
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in this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid co-host Jason brings us a truly special interview with person in long term recovery, motivational speaker, educator, trainer, professional storyteller, and award-winning spoken word poet Joseph Green. Joseph has been featured in numerous publications as well as the recently released award winning documentary film, Tipping the Pain Scale. Joseph’s presentations and workshops are for anybody seeking a reconnection to purpose, motivation, or community. Joseph has a distinct ability to viscerally articulate the emotional experience of addiction, and the imperfection of what recovery can feel like. One of Joseph’s core messages he shares with us and audiences worldwide is one that is at the center of what The Way Out Podcast is all about - the truly transformative power of Story. Finding our voices and sharing the inspirational and healing power embodied within our powerful Recovery stories has the very real capacity to heal others while at the very same time healing ourselves through the transformational power of connection, purpose, and community. Of equal value is how Joseph’s work serves as an important reminder that more important than knowing what we are fighting against is knowing and never forgetting what we are fighting for. Whatever you do, be sure to stay tuned until the end of the interview for a one of a kind performance of one of his original poems that is sure to blow your mind, a poem that starts with a line that so eloquently encapsulates what we here at The Way Out Podcast wish for each and every one of you, which reads - May you find at the height of your recovery what you never found at the bottom of your addiction. The rest of that outstanding piece of poetry is yours to behold at the end of this extraordinary interview, so be sure to listen up.
Contact Joseph Green: CEO LMSvoice- Motivator - Educator - Storyteller
joseph@LMSvoice.com
www.lmsvoice.com
Book recommendation: The Power Of Habit by Charles Duhigg
https://charlesduhigg.com/the-power-of-habit/
Best piece of advice: "The reason most people fail instead of succeed is because they trade the thing that they most want for what they want at the moment."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Float On by Modest Mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAud5O7Qqk
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In this rendition of The Way Out we have an extremely relatable and inspiring discussion with musician, fellow podcaster and person in long term recovery Nick Warnke. Nick’s journey to and through recovery from addiction to this point was anything but linear, which only adds to the inspirational and relatable value embodied within his nothing short of miraculous story. Perhaps the most edifying elements personified by Nick’s journey, in order of appearance, are that childhood trauma and adverse childhood experiences are not a prerequisite to experience a substance use disorder, the reality is that addiction can take hold with or without childhood trauma. Perhaps equally instructive is how Nick’s substance use evolved from an easier to justify pill addiction to IV heroin use and the insidious justifications that accompanied this near fatal escalation. The lines we draw while in the throws of addiction that we swear we will not cross, and mean it with every fiber of our being, can be rationalized and justified rather swiftly when in the midst of an excruciating withdrawal. A few fateful experiences precipitated by what can only be described as an extraordinary recovery that included true surrender, taking suggestions, doing the deep and often uncomfortable work of Recovery, and surrendering the outcome to a power greater than himself and resulted in Nick being of service in truly wonderful ways and continuing to use the skills and tools of recovery one day at a time - and he’s just getting started so Listen Up.
Contact Nick Warnke:
Heroin Survivor on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Heroin-Survivor-100611671921257
Survivor Sessions Podcast on Spotify and Facebook:
https://open.spotify.com/show/5tnjXJzZ9kuMjQy4El96vZ?si=254eff7938084917https://open.spotify.com/show/5tnjXJzZ9kuMjQy4El96vZ?si=254eff7938084917
https://www.facebook.com/groups/258354279219224
More information on Highly Sensitive People:
https://hsperson.com/
Advice - Always trust your gut
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation - Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill:
https://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/0304spiritpsych/030413.Hill.Think.and.Grow.Rich.pdf
Song that symbolizes Recovery to Nick:
Nicky Logos: When My World Fell Down
https://open.spotify.com/track/6wL0wuhSqCEUU2xreMudBY?si=c921ed34cb504dd8
More Music by Nicky Logos (Nick Warnke):
https://open.spotify.com/user/1238165186?si=ee2cacca6dd349d7
Meraki Sober Living Program:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1898107106999521/
Twin Cities Wellness Center and Recovery Gym:
https://www.facebook.com/TwinCitiesWellnessCenter
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In this edition of The Way Out, our beloved and intrepid recovery podcast co-host Jason is back with an outstanding interview with person in long term Recovery, JR Weaver. JR is the author of the self-help book, Addiction Manifesto, and the CEO and founder of Recovery Revolution, which started as a Facebook page and has evolved into a 501C3 nonprofit with more than 246,000 followers. He is also a recovery advocate, Certified Peer Recovery Specialist, and a mentor for the Veteran Treatment Court in Charleston County South Carolina. Above all else, JR is a genuinely amazing human being which is revealed as he shares his journey to and through recovery with us to this point. No doubt JR’s Higher Power is making big moves through JR as a result of his amazing recovery journey as manifested by his work in the recovery community and you're about to learn all about it so listen up.
JR's contact info: jrweaver0@gmail.com
Recovery resources: http://recovery-revolution.org/
Veterans Treatment Court | Probate Court Office (charlestoncounty.org)
https://www.charlestoncounty.org/departments/probate/veterans-treatment-court.php
Addiction Manifesto by JR Weaver:
https://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Manifesto-Weaver-Jr/dp/1638377634/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1638241024&sr=8-1
Book Recommendation: The Bible
Life verse: Ephesians Chapter 6:10-20
Best Advice: "Just show up!"
Recovery song: Reckless Love by Cory Asbury
https://youtu.be/7GGJ8cyYNzQ
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In this edition of The Way Out we have Recovery Coach, psychotherapist, author, and person in long term recovery herself – Veronica Valli. Veronica was an absolute delight to interview for myriad reasons, not the least of which is her remarkable ability to get to the heart of what our core problem is and precisely how we can address it with her new book Soberful – Uncover a sustainable, fulfilling life free of alcohol. Many of us, myself included, can identify with the persistent internal emotional and mental turmoil that is so eloquently described in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous by Bill Wilson as restlessness, irritability, and discontentedness that prior to recovery is but temporarily assuaged through succumbing to our addictive behavior or substance of choice. This presents the impossible predicament of not being able to manage our addiction, yet not being able to tolerate abstaining from our addiction lest we become – you guessed it – restless, irritable, and discontent. Indeed, that was my dilemma and that of countless others prior to doing the deep, meaningful work that defines the process of recovery which is why Veronica’s book is both a desperately needed and exceedingly valuable recovery resource. It answers the question to What do I do now that I quit my addiction with her 5 pillars of sustainable sobriety. These pillars, which are movement, connection, balance, process, and growth address our counterproductive default thought and behavior patterns that all too often conspire against us and become all but impossible to ignore once we’ve put the proverbial plug in the jug. Veronica shares how doing this work delivers on the promise our substance or behavior of choice originally offered and much more – a life that is meaningful, rewarding, and fulfilling – you might call it a Soberful life, so listen up.
Contact Veronica Valli:
https://soberful.com/contact/
Learn more or purchase Veronica’s new Book Soberful: Uncover a Sustainable, Fulfilling Life Free of Alcohol:
https://soberful.com/books-by-veronica-valli/
Veronica’s recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:
Sermon on the Mount by Emmet Fox:
https://www.amazon.com/Sermon-Mount-Key-Success-Life/dp/0060628626
Around the Year with Emmet Fox:
https://www.amazon.com/Around-Year-Emmet-Fox-Readings/dp/0062504088/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20QMKGHRZBSUD&keywords=around+the+year+with+emmet+fox&qid=1644276390&s=books&sprefix=around+the+year%2Cstripbooks%2C91&sr=1-1
Veronica’s Recovery advice: Do the Steps – You’ll be Contacted!
More about EMDR Therapy:
https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy/
More about Tapping:
https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-is-eft-tapping
Songs that symbolize Recovery to Veronica:
Hallelujah by Jeff Buckley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4
Amazing Grace:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsCp5LG_zNE
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In this edition of The Way Out, we’ve got an exceedingly illuminating and enlightening interview with Author, Artist and Teacher Day Schildkret who’s new book Hello, Goodbye: 75 Rituals for Times of Loss, Celebration, and Change though not written exclusively for the Recovery Community is nonetheless extremely relevant to those of us who are in Recovery. Rituals are an extremely practical way to attach tangible meaning to significant events and to add meaning to daily life through attaching that activity or event with a specific act like preparing a meal, burning something, or even doing something as seemingly simple like lighting a candle. The magic in ritual is that it’s rooted in the idea that it’s action that changes our thinking and emotions not the other way around which is so eloquently expressed by one of my most beloved Recovery sayings – We can’t think our way into right living, we must act or way into right thinking. Day and I talk on why ritual is a valuable exercise and why it’s so completely compatible with many Recovery programs and practices. Plus we discuss the difference between routine and ritual and highlight some easy rituals you can implement into your recovery repertoire so listen up.
Contact Day Schildkret:
day@dayschildkret.com
https://www.morningaltars.com/
http://instagram.com/morningaltars
http://www.facebook.com/morningaltars
Hello, Goodbye: 75 Rituals for Times of Loss, Celebration, and Change by Day Schildkret:
https://www.amazon.com/Hello-Goodbye-Rituals-Celebration-Change/dp/198217093X
Book Recommendation: Die Wise by Stephen Jenkinson
https://orphanwisdom.com/die-wise/
Advice: Keep the Faith
Song That Reminds Day of Ritual: Sufjan Stevens - The Greatest Gift
https://youtu.be/22QKbw_c_yM
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In this edition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Vienna, a marketing extraordinaire by day and social media sober inspiration and artist by night. Vienna shares with us her journey to and through Recovery this point, which has been marked by both sides of the destructive force of addiction and alcoholism in first having to watch helplessly as loved ones fall into the spiral of addiction and ultimately enduring the death of a partner due to addiction. Addiction wasn’t done with Vienna yet, as she ended up having her own reckoning with alcoholism. Vienna’s unmitigated candor in relating her story and undeniable inspiration is extremely relatable so listen up.
If you want to reach out to Vienna, email share@wayoutcast.com
Recovery literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation: Blackout: Remembering the things I drank to forget
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/blackout-sarah-hepola/1120481005
Best piece of Recovery advice: Be yourself
Song that reminds Vienna of Recovery: Goodbye my Lover by James Blunt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVyggTKDcOE
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In this edition of The Way Out, our intrepid recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with Recovery advocate and ally Jaclyn Brown who is also a survivor of a loss of a family member due to addiction. Jaclyn is also the creator and host of the Dark and Enlightened Podcast, a podcast in which Jason was a recent guest so be sure to check that episode out post haste! Jaclyn shares about her life and the loss of her brother Mark to an overdose in 2018, an experience that made her aware that she needed to dig deep and work on herself. Her journey of self-discovery both enlightened and inspired her to learn as much as she could about the disease of addiction. Today Jaclyn is a harm reduction expert, Narcan trainer and volunteer, and all-around recovery advocate extraordinaire. Jaclyn’s story is just beginning, as she just quit her job in Corporate America in search of a true vocation in the recovery sphere, and Jason’s interview with this recovery powerhouse starts right now, so listen up.
Contact Info and Resource Links:
jaclynbrown14@gmail.com
https://darkandenlightened.buzzsprout.com/
https://sitdaz.org/
https://www.recoveryvoices.com/
https://www.shatterproof.org/
Best piece of advice: "Focus on the now!"
Books: The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle and The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho
https://shop.eckharttolle.com/collections/books/products/the-power-of-now
Recovery Song: Macklemore - Ain't Gonna Die Tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIIP8eS3tvc
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In this rendition of The Way Out I’m incredibly honored to bring you my interview with writer, author, and person in long term recovery Jeff Romig. Jeff shares his journey to and through recovery to this point with us from both alcoholism and suicidal ideation and the inspiration behind his new, incredibly relatable, and well written book Don’t Fucking Kill Yourself: A Memoir of Suicide, Survival, and Stories that Keep Us Alive. The book reads like my memory works, which is to say it’s not written in chronological order yet as the story unfolds it very much feels it’s happening in just the order it’s supposed to. Well documented is the incidence of the cooccurrence of addiction and mental illness and my experience and that of many others who’ve shared their stories with us is that only through actively addressing both the alcoholism or addiction along with the mental health disorder does true recovery and wellness begin to take hold and indeed flourish. That certainly is echoed in masterful fashion in Jeff’s book and throughout the interview where there’s no shortage of recovery and spiritual truth and perhaps the best part is we didn’t forget to have a little fun in our discussion along the way so listen up.
Contact Jeff & Learn More About the Book Don't Fucking Kill Yourself and the Podcast Suicide Survival Stories:
https://www.suicidesurvivalstories.org/
Book - Higher Power: Seeking God in 12-Step Recovery by Douglas D. Himes: https://www.logos.com/product/26840/higher-power-seeking-god-in-12-step-recovery
Advice - Don't Drink & Go to Meetings
Song - 26 by Paramore: https://youtu.be/_t-nRXwAL1k
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In this edition of The Way out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason had the pleasure of talking with Chekesha Kay Ellis about her opioid journey and Recovery advocacy. She never so much as touched a drug in her life, but a torn meniscus began a 10 year prescription addiction that nearly killed her, and did indeed cause opioid toxicity, which permanently damaged her hearing. Chekesha’s transparency as she shares her journey to and through recovery to this point is nothing short of amazing. Without question, this episode features a whole lot of real recovery talk, so listen up.
Contact info: infochasenomore@gmail.com
Website: chasenomore.org
Best piece of advice: Let go of toxic people
Book recommendation: CashApp $15 to Chekesha Ellis at $Chasenomore
for autographed copies of A Life Of Kayos: My Opioid Journey through Hell, Hope and Healing
Or buy on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08RC5RCV6/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1629736231&sr=8-1-fkmr0%2F
Resources:
Recoveryvoices.com
Shatterproof.org
Song recommendations:
Pick up the pieces -by Average White Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnH_zwVmiuE
Keep On -by D Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1RvCU0rII
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m downright ecstatic about bringing you all my interview with musician and person in long term recovery STATiC whom I had the tremendous opportunity to meet while doing our still very much relevant Panel Discussion on Staying Sober for the Holidays along with mutual friend Shane Ramer and The Way Out’s spectacular co-host Jason Rudeen which is available for your listening pleasure on episode number 267 on the very same platform you’re listening to this episode on. STATiC shares his super relatable journey to and through Recovery to this point with us with true sincerity and humility along with an abundance of Recovery and Spiritual wisdom to boot. STATiC and I have an absolute blast as we talk growing up as self-identified misfits in the 80’s and 90’s, our mutual love of guitars and great music, and of course STATiC’s road to Recovery, woven with the all the pain, struggle and adversity along with the vital tools, truth and hope that his story and life now very much embodies - All of which makes up the beautiful noise that is Recovery from alcoholism and addiction so listen up.
Contact STATiC:
https://staticisnoise.com/
https://linktr.ee/staticisnoise
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation - Came to Believe:
https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/Came-to-Believe-9780916856052
Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Stay (In the program, in Recovery)
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Fascination Street by The Cure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ycl_ayPHU0
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In this edition of The Way Out, our beloved recovery podcast co-host Jason catches up with an old friend, Cynthia Baade who is a person in long term recovery and a Certified Peer Recovery Specialist Reciprocal. Now time for a moment of total and complete transparency for a purpose about this interview. One of Cynthia’s little ones is in the background on and off as you heard in the intro and that continues in the interview along with a cacophony of background noise on and off. My first gut instinct was we needed to scrap the whole thing and re-record the entire interview. But then I decided I was going to start editing it anyhow, which now feels very much like a Higher Power moment. No doubt, the audio on this interview is far from perfect despite my best efforts to work my editing magic. What is also undeniably true is how genuinely authentic and refreshing it is to hear Cynthia tell her story with the medley of sounds that make up the day-to-day life of a parent in Recovery. Life isn’t perfect and flawless, and either is recovery – and both are beautiful not despite the flaws but because of them. Without the flaws and imperfections Recovery and indeed life would be rather bland and uninspiring. I’m grateful to have a connection with my Higher Power that allowed me to recognize and embrace the beauty that lied beneath the imperfection so we all can hear Cynthia’s amazing journey to and through recovery to this point. Cynthia is extremely honest and vulnerable in this conversation. Her natural storytelling ability will draw you in as she reveals her extensive history. We learn how she broke generational cycles and is starting a new kind of legacy for her own family. The purpose and love she has found in her life will inspire you and warm your heart so listen up.
Book Recommendation:
Adult Children of Alcoholics
https://www.amazon.com/Adult-Children-Alcoholics-Janet-Woititz/
Songs that symbolize recovery:
A BETTER ME - LeeLee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr4ufa3kptM
and
How it feels - Rare of Breed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8qkPFpHYY
Best advice: " It's OK to not be OK"
Contact Info and Resources=
www.missionrestart.net
(218) 999-4066 (Peer support phone line)
Cynthia Baade C.P.R.S.R
President and Founder
cynthiat@missionrestart.net
https://firstcall211.net (mental health crisis line, information and Referral line)
https://www.mcboard.org
https://www.hopehousetreatment.org
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This week I’m thrilled to bring you an interview with person in long term recovery Kim Bemis, who is also the Founder and Executive Director of Gobi Support, the first and only online platform that offers drug and alcohol prevention and early intervention programs for parents and their teenagers. As a person in long term recovery himself, along with years of working in the addiction treatment industry, Kim saw a gap in the services provided by traditional drug and alcohol treatment centers in that they provided services only after dependency or addiction presented within an individual, largely overlooking the role prevention could play in stemming potential problem use among people of all ages, but most critically, teenagers. Thus, Kim worked to bring Gobi Support to fruition which is laser focused on reaching 13-17 year old’s who are experimenting with drugs and alcohol with the goal to prevent future substance abuse and dependence. Kim shares with us his highly relatable journey to and through recovery to this point, as well as the inspiration and goals for the absolutely free of charge and much needed preventative online service that enables parents to “Go Be” support for their teenagers who are at risk of falling into substance abuse and ultimately dependence so listen up.
Contact Kim: jbemis@gobi.support
Learn more about Gobi Support:
https://www.gobi.support/
Kim’s Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation - Tao Te Ching:
https://www.with.org/tao_te_ching_en.pdf
Music that symbolizes Recovery to Kim - Mendelssohn Symphony No. 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6aV5UAlmyQ
Best piece of Recovery advice: Say YES!
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In this installment of The Way Out, spectacular recovery podcast co-host Jason has a downright authentic and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, Pedro Zuniga. Jason and Pedro talk about life, love, family, and discuss some common hurdles that many of us face while repairing our relationships in recovery. Jason and Pedro’s conversation reveal some key recovery truths such as how the ongoing process of learning a new way to live leads us to a more intimate knowledge of ourselves. Indeed, every situation we go through clean and sober brings about just a wee bit more wisdom and confidence that we can live life on life’s terms no matter what life throws our way. Pedro’s story is incredibly instructive and very easy to relate to for any one of us no matter where we are at in our own recovery so listen up.
Contact info for Pedro: 763-807-6210
Book recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
Best piece of advice: "You can't save the world. You can't save them. It's their choice if they want to stop drinking. You can't control that."
Song that symbolizes recovery: Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd:
https://youtu.be/_FrOQC-zEog
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In this edition of the The Way out we have an incredibly illuminating and enlightening interview with a truly special guest in Randy Anderson, who is a person in long term recovery, recovery advocate extraordinaire and an overall tremendous human who dedicates himself to improving access, availability, and equity in recovery services both locally in Minnesota and nationally through training individuals in and advocating for critical recovery services like peer recovery support services. Randy’s journey to and through recovery to this point is without question chalked full of adversity, both in childhood as well as in active substance use complete with a prison stint and a meaningful recovery that provided the foundation for Randy to be the incredible recovery advocate he is today. Randy shares with us a wealth of recovery wisdom and insight into how recovery advocacy works and more importantly why it matters so listen up.
Contact Randy and learn more about Bold North Recovery:
https://www.boldnorthrecoveryandconsulting.com/
Recovery Advocacy Project:
https://www.recoveryvoices.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Night of the Gun by David Carr
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Night-of-the-Gun/David-Carr/9781416541530
Best Recovery Advice:
Don’t take no for an answer, don’t give up, there’s always hope
Song that Symbolizes Recovery: Can’t Stop the Feeling by Justin Timberlake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru0K8uYEZWw
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In this edition of The Way Out our beloved recovery podcaster and Cohost Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery and Peer Recovery Support Specialist Supervisor, Kyle Brewer. Jason gets an opportunity to really connect with Kyle and his journey to and through recovery to this point which is chalked full of universal Recovery and Spiritual wisdom and truths. Kyle's a gifted individual who has found his purpose managing the Arkansas Peer Specialist Program Grant, and working for NAADAC, The Association for Addiction Professionals. More specifically, Kyle supervises the Peer Support Services in the E.R. at The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. Kyle shares his lived experience as a person in long term recovery and talks about how he uses that in his ministry and in peer recovery services so listen up.
Contact Kyle: kbrewer@naadac.org
Kyle's Peer Specialist Program:
https://www.naadac.org/arkansas-peer-specialist-program?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=pmd_UQ8y9ZqZk41y2li.shaPXhRt3rXFbRhC5ryl0MqyRoc-1635028931-0-gqNtZGzNAlCjcnBszQi9
naadac.org
Book recommendation: The Bible (or) Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren:
https://www.purposedriven.com/the-book/
Best piece of advice: "Make plans in the sand" (hold loosely to the details, hold tightly to the purpose and the mission. Gods in control)
Song the symbolizes recovery: Evidence by Josh Baldwin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6jD7N1HvbI
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This week we have an early Holiday Treat for you with an encore presentation of the first ever live streamed recovery show featuring Recovery podcast cohost extraordinaire Jason and I along with none other than That Sober Guy Shane Ramer with special guest STATiC. The link to the video is in the show notes, so be sure to check that out should you have an overwhelming desire to see the faces behind the microphones you hear every week. We cover a whole range of recovery topics all centered on staying sober during the Holidays. We discussed having a sober holiday plan, having fun sober, self-care in Recovery & more plus we took live questions from those who watched it live so listen up.
Watch the video here: http://ow.ly/7NnM50GMwoS
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In this installment of The Way Out our good friend and person in long term recovery, Buddy C. joins us for an incredibly enlightening and downright instructive discussion that is jam packed with spiritual and recovery truth centered on Buddy’s new book Powerless but not Helpless. Powerless but not helpless is an incredibly useful and instructive distillation of the underlying principle in each verse of the Toa Te Ching for those contemplating or already living a sober lifestyle. Buddy artfully combines each principle with a direct correlation to universal tenets of 12-Step recovery further crystallizing the clear connection between them. Buddy and I discuss often discussed but perhaps not well understood spiritual concepts of surrender and forgiveness, which are core to the Toa’s spiritual teachings as is the spiritual truth that in order to truly experience love, we must actively and intentionally give it through acts of service and kindness to our brothers and sisters in and out of recovery. Without question, Buddy C takes us on both an educational and spiritual journey so that we can truly appreciate the gift of being powerless but not helpless so listen up.
Contact Buddy C. and learn more about Powerless but not Helpless:
https://buddyc.org/
Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Letting Go by David Hawkins
Available through Buddy’s website: https://buddyc.org/
Buddy’s favorite blues song: The Sky is Crying by Stevie Ray Vaughan
https://youtu.be/6s9M-52fRGU
Recovery advice: Listen to others experience, strength, and hope!
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In this edition of the Way Out Jason the recovery co-host with the most talks with person in long term recovery Erik Bolton, who shares his story of addiction and alcoholism with us, along with plenty of hope that not only is recovery possible, life is MO Better clean and sober. Erik was offered a chance in early recovery to be a part of something that ended up being a total game changer... to work for MONetwork for Opioid Reform and MO Better Living sober housing. As you’ll soon find out, Erik’s a natural leader for the folks in his community and a fine example of what meaningful and enduring recovery can look like so Listen Up.
Book Recommendation: Just For Today
https://www.amazon.com/Just-Today-Meditations-Recovering-Addicts/dp/1557761515/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1634867271&sr=8-2
Best piece of advice: "Don't make someone else's stuff yours"
Recovery Song: Nobody Greater by Vashawn Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QSbqSuwwx0
Contact Erik:
Erik Bolton
3143913127
Missouri Network for Opioid Reform and Recovery
monetwork.org
Mo Better Living
mobetterliving.com
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In this rendition of The Way Out, we have an unapologetically and downright British interview with bona fide Pacific Crest Trail Through Hiker, author, person in long term recovery, and grateful member of Alcoholics Anonymous, Person Irresponsible who hiked 2653 miles starting at the border of Mexico in California and ultimately arriving at the US/Canadian border in northern Washington State just as a global pandemic was poised to take the world by storm and not only lived to tell about it, wrote a spectacular book that is equal parts travelogue, 12-Step reflection, and recovery memoir weaved together in hilarious and poignant fashion. Person Irresponsible or PI to those of us who’ve had the pleasure to meet her, is a pseudonym as is custom for those who embark upon the Pacific Crest Trail or PCT for those in the know. PI shares with us about her extraordinary odyssey that was the PCT hike, her journey to and through recovery to this point, and an abundance of spiritual and recovery truth centered in her experience working the 12 Steps of, participating in the fellowship of, and being of service in Alcoholics Anonymous so listen up.
Contact Person Irresponsible and Learn More about the Book Everything You Ever Taught Me:
https://www.mlconaquad.com/
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendations:
Alcoholics Anonymous (The Book, or the “Big Book”):
https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/read-the-big-book-and-twelve-steps-and-twelve-traditions
Rachel’s Holiday by Marian Keyes:
https://www.waterstones.com/book/rachels-holiday/marian-keyes/9780241958438?awc=3787_1635180822_df3bfcb085690b3772fbe4b618461be0&utm_source=505773&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.penguin.co.uk
Best piece of Recovery Advice:
Have Faith!
Song that reminds PI of Recovery: God Save the Queen (It actually scares bears!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8KSAtos-dk
More Information on Alcoholics Anonymous:
https://aa.org/
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In this installment of The Way Out, recovery co-host extraordinaire Jason’s got an incredible interview with a real dynamo of a guest with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur and author, Jeff Vickers. Jeff has an infectious personality, and his energy is so uplifting that you can’t help but feel how fired up he is about recovery! Jeff shares openly about his gritty past, what's worked miracles in his life, and all about his new book, Sober Slogans as well as his big plans for the future! This is a great interview that will leave you wanting to learn much more, so listen up.
Contact Jeff:
soberslogans@gmail.com
FB: @SoberSlogans
TikTok: sober_slogans
IG: sober_slogans
Sober Slogans:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1737194007/ref=nodl_?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860
Best piece of advice: Keep comin' back
Book Recommendation: The Bible
Song that symbolizes recovery: Legends are Made - Sam Tinnesz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKVZrbitbd8
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In this rendition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, drug counselor, and podcaster Carl Fessenden. Carl has had the opportunity to work with some of the top professionals in the mental health field and has helped hundreds of people overcome addiction in his work as a counselor and now he’s expanding his impact on the recovery community through his new podcast The Drunken Worm Podcast. Carl shares his recovery journey to this point with us with a unique blend of candor and hilarity, and all along the way we get a veritable cornucopia of spiritual and recovery truth reinforcing that if you’re willing to do the hard work a worthwhile life in recovery is not just possible it’s 100 percent worth it so Listen Up.
Connect with Carl:
https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/contact-the-host
Website: wwwthedrunkenwormpodcast.com
Patreon: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/subscribe
How to listen: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/the-podcast
Shop: https://the-drunken-worm-podcast-merch.myshopify.com/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/100400252387437
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TDW_Podcast
IG: https://www.instagram.com/tdw_podcast
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQcUtP5du1XWRqe-HBiV3eg
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation:
NA Basic Text: http://www.nauca.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/1988-5th-Edition-Basic-Text-Books-1-2.pdf
Best piece of Recovery advice: You Don’t Have to Live Like That (in addiction) Anymore
Huey Lewis and the News - I Want A New Drug:
https://youtu.be/N6uEMOeDZsA
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In this edition of the extravaganza otherwise known as The Way Out Podcast intrepid and nothing short of spectacular Co-Host Jason interviews Bonafede Recovery powerhouse Nadine Machkovech, who’s on a mission to change the world by igniting change and shining her light in a universe often filled with darkness. She has graced the TEDx stage, was profiled in Forbes, and received national survivor advocate recognition from the National Safety Council. She is dedicated to building a life centered around self-care, service, and reconnecting others to their greater purpose in life. Nadine shares her story, speaks her truth and Recovers Out Loud with us while sharing a message that meaningful and enduring recovery is not just possible it’s absolutely worth it so listen up.
Book Recommendation: Rising Strong by Brene Brown
https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Strong-Ability-Transforms-Parent/dp/081298580X
Song that symbolizes recovery: Second Chance by Shinedown
https://youtu.be/WbsDPbr8qoM
Best piece of advice: " It's your story, you can't mess up!"
Contact info and resources:
nadinemachkovech.com
Rise Together website - weallrisetogether.org
Crave 21 - crave21.org
TedX - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfwHMdHnv0&t=861s
Rise and Grind Recovery Radio - soberpodcasts.com/rise-grind/
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In this rendition of The Way Out my super-star co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Tori Volk. This conversation with Tori Volk will indeed resonate with anyone, but especially with all you mothers out there in Way Out Podcast Land. It’s challenging enough facing co-occurring disorders, but when you add in some complicated parenting issues, it's truly a miracle to get through it clean and sober! Tori shares her journey to and through recovery with us to this point, and without question Tori’s determination and perseverance is sure to inspire anyone who’s already in, or contemplating recovery so listen up.
Contact Tori:
hefta7@gmail.com
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendations:
Codependents' Guide to the Twelve Steps: Beattie, Melody: 9780671762278: Amazon.com: Books
Destination Joy: Moving Beyond Fear. Loss, and Trauma in Recovery.: Larsen, Earnie: 9781592850372: Amazon.com: Books
Song that symbolizes Tori's recovery:
Sia - Footprints (Audio) - YouTube
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In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur, author, and gifted storyteller, Dino Miliotis. A self-made millionaire twice over, Dino shares his journey to and through recovery this point with a frankness and candor that is as disarming as it is enlightening. Dino takes us on the rollercoaster ride of his entrepreneurial successes and the material rewards that came along with it along with the pernicious, progressive and ultimately all-consuming nature of his alcohol and drug abuse which led to nothing short of a physical, emotional and mental crisis that caused Dino to make a fateful and vital decision – to walk away from his billion dollar enterprise and ask for help with all of the humility and willingness of a truly desperate man and it paid off in a truly spectacular way. We discuss Dino’s recovery, success, entrepreneurialism, the incredibly important idea of bad habit displacement, where we replace negative behaviors with positive and the inspiration for his new book There is no Box so listen up.
Reach out to Dino:
https://dinomiliotis.com/contact/
FB - https://www.facebook.com/dinomiliotis@dinomiliotis
IG - https://www.instagram.com/dinomiliotis/@dinomiliotis
Twitter - https://twitter.com/thedinomiliotis@thedinomiliotis
Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendation -There is No Box by Dino Miliotis:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C155M87
Best Recovery Advice:
One Day at a Time
Be of Service
Song that Symbolizes Recovery for Dino – I’m Still Standing by Elton John:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s
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In this edition of The Way Out we have recovery podcaster, and person in long term recovery Shane Ramer of That Sober Guy Podcast. I recently had the honor and privilege to share my story on Shane’s podcast and I couldn’t be more grateful to have had the opportunity to welcome Shane to The Way Out Podcast family to share his remarkable story and the spiritual and recovery truth embodied in it, with us. I’m more convinced than ever that people we don’t yet know aren’t strangers but friends we haven’t met yet, especially in the Recovery community. Indeed, Shane and I share much in common in and out of the realm of Recovery, so much so we’re very much like brothers from another mother! Shane and I do our level best to Recover Out Loud as we talk music, coming of age in the 90’s, our mutual love of walking with our Recovery dogs, the journey to recovery and the serendipity of recording this installment of The Way Out Podcast on the precise date of Shane’s 8 year sobriety anniversary so Listen Up.
That Sober Guy Podcast:
https://www.thatsoberguy.com/podcast
Contact Shane:
IG - @ThatSoberGuyPodcast
https://www.thatsoberguy.com/contactus
Best Recovery Advice:
Move you’re a$$ and your mind will follow
Look at your feet (in difficult times and times of stress – a grounding technique)
Recovery literature (Quit Lit) recommendation: The Bible
Song that symbolizes Recovery for Shane:
Keepers of the Faith by Terror:
https://youtu.be/UonmopFossY
Chemical Diet by Pharmacist Chris and Shane Ramer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e830PCappnk
Charlie LeVoir on That Sober Guy Podcast:
https://thatsoberguy.libsyn.com/tsg-ep374-charlie-levoir-the-way-out-podcast
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This week the world’s best recovery podcast co-host Jason has a powerful interview with person in long term recovery, Wesley Verry. Wes talks about the utter unmanageability and insanity of his addictions, an insanity that also manifested in his relationships, which led him to be finally broken enough to stop talking and start listening to the solutions he was hearing in the rooms of 12-Step recovery. His detailed accounts of his journey are emotionally charged and indeed extremely relatable. Ultimately, Wes’s story is a true testament to the power of 12 step recovery to break the cycle of alcohol or drug addiction in anyone's life so listen up.
Contact Wes @ wesleyadam1311@gmail.com
Book recommendations:
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/read-the-big-book-and-twelve-steps-and-twelve-traditions
Daily Reflections
https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/daily-reflection
Song that symbolizes recovery to Wes- Hero by Skillet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9x2CHQClTU
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In this rendition of The Way Out, we have a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, recovery coach, and Phoenix facilitator, Myles Sandoval. Author Johann Hari is credited with coining the phrase “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety. It’s connection.” This idea embodies the impetus behind The Phoenix, which is a non-profit organization with the sole purpose to build a sober active community that fuels resilience and harnesses the transformational power of connection so that together participants rise, recover, and live. Often one of the greatest fears folks have prior to, or upon entering recovery is that living sober will be devoid of joy and we won’t have fun in sobriety. Myles proves this unequivocally false as a participant in The Phoenix community, where she creates meaningful connections with others in recovery through shared interests and activities like Yoga, CrossFit, Meditation, Mindfulness and now as the facilitator of the Phoenix group Role for Recovery where Myles integrates two amazing things; Recovery and Dungeons and Dragons or D&D if you will, in an online group. Myles and I discuss the importance and power of connection and having fun in recovery, meditation, and of course D&D so listen up.
Contact Myles Sandoval:
Call/text: 512-294-6479
Email: myles.a.sandoval@gmail.com
The Phoenix Livestreaming Groups: https://thephoenix.org/find-a-class/live-streaming/
Role for Recovery
Tuesdays @ 6PM CT
Role for Recovery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1495073220872625
Best Recovery Advice: Take it One Day at a Time
Recovery Literature Recommendation (Quit Lit): No Death No Fear by Thich Nhat Hanh:
https://budsas.net/sach/en176.pdf
Song that symbolizes Recovery: Tool Lateralus
https://youtu.be/Y7JG63IuaWs
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In this rendition of The Way Out our recovery co-host with the most Jason has a fantastic interview with Eric Schulz, and in this episode, Jason and Eric had quite the happy accident! After Jason and Eric rescheduled once, they got to celebrate Eric’s one year milestone on his actual clean date! If that isn’t a Higher Power Moment, I don’t know what is. Eric shares his journey with us and all the while Jason and Eric cover so many profoundly helpful topics and share a lot of practical tools that can help anyone find a way out of despair and hopelessness, so listen up.
Contact Eric on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/eric.schulz.37669
Song that symbolizes Eric's recovery- Luven Me by Nelly
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nelly+luven+me+lyrics
Book recommendation- 24 hours a day
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In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Clinical Psychiatrist, Addiction Medicine Specialist and Bio Ethicist Dr. Carl Erik Fisher. As a person in long term recovery himself along with his clinical and scholarly work, Carl brings a unique perspective to the treatment of addiction, and the positive change that occurs in recovery. Easily one of the most enlightening and instructive ideas forwarded by Dr. Fisher is the concept that recovery can be thought of and defined as any positive change in one’s life, which affords us the freedom to take the transformational power of the tools contained within our chosen recovery pathway and apply them broadly across any or all areas of our lives to affect constructive improvement. Recovery, in its purest form is a holistic wellness journey and we don’t have to limit it to one unhealthy habit, or just one addiction. Applying our recovery process that worked for a drug or alcohol addiction can work for addictive behaviors and even for behaviors and negative or counterproductive habits that haven’t reached the threshold of addiction. Recovery is a process, and it doesn’t happen all at once nor is it often linear. When we continue to remove the harmful and addictive behaviors, we can begin and indeed continue the process of healing our minds, bodies, and spirits through our preferred recovery pathway. Carl and I explore an array of fascinating areas in and around addiction and recovery including stigma, mindfulness in recovery, and how Buddhist practices can be a primary recovery pathway or incorporated into your existing recovery practice, and a whole lot more so listen up.
Contact Dr. Carl Erik Fisher:
https://www.carlerikfisher.com/
Book Recommendation (Quit Lit):
The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh:
https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Thich%20Nhat%20Hanh%20-%20The%20Miracle%20of%20Mindfulness.pdf
Anything by Buddhism and Recovery Author and Speaker Kevin Griffin:
https://www.kevingriffin.net/
The Best Piece of Advice Received:
Surrender, let go, and ask for help
New book coming in January 2022: The Urge: Our History of Addiction
New podcast coming soon: Flourishing After Addiction
Song that symbolizes Recovery:
Doctor Atomic: Batter My Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDTFyinS3zA
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In this rendition of The Way Out our steadfast recovery Co-Host Jason’s got a magnificent interview with person in long term recovery and Author, Timothy Clancy who shares with us his road to Sobriety. From rock bottom to ten years of continuous sobriety and counting, Timothy’s journey to and through recovery to this point has been difficult at times, yet exceedingly rewarding at the same time. As you’ll come to learn, Timothy lives with Epilepsy, which has meant he’s spent time in a coma and undergone two brain surgeries. Without question Timothy walks his talk, which in addition to writing his book The Road to Sobriety, is personified by his decision to leave a lucrative job in the financial industry at Goldman Sachs to become an Independent Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, or CBT counselor helping people who struggle with self-destructive behavior, substance abuse, eating disorders and more. Timothy talks about the sacrifices he has made in order to fulfill his purpose, helping others and giving back! For Timothy, true happiness could only be found by giving up financial success, thus creating his own version of personal success! No doubt about it, Timothy has a survivor's story and a servant's heart so listen up.
Book recommendation: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Dummies
https://mindhearteu.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/cognitive-behavioural-therapy-for-dummies-copy.pdf
Song that symbolizes recovery: Better than Drugs by Skillet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGyDL7sTHA
Contact Timothy at kayla72911@gmail.com
Timothy's book -The Road to Sobriety: lifting yourself up when there doesn't seem like much to hold onto
Get it for free on Kindle Unlimited or purchase here at this link
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08N1KGNTK/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1627864045&sr=8-3
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In this edition of The Way Out Recovery Coach, Entrepreneur, and person in long term recovery Kylie Butler comes to us from Bali to share her journey to and through recovery to this point with a sagacity and intuitiveness that is at once unmistakably authentic and enlightening. Her knock-down drag-out bout with alcoholism is rife with the hallmarks of a classic battle with addiction, not the least of which was trauma and a heavy dose of denial, which as most of us know, doesn’t FEEL like denial when we’re in it. Her recovery journey is rooted in the 12-Steps infused with a distinctly Buddhist set of principles and practices which very much focuses on living in a way that centers and prioritizes acceptance and letting go of that which causes us to struggle. For Kylie, recovery was first a process of addition by subtraction. Eliminate the alcohol, and then begin practices that allow her to continue to let go of the thoughts, attitudes, and behaviors that cause suffering while at the same time increasing serenity and over all well being in mind, body, and spirit. Kylie and I dig into her whale of a recovery story, talk some serious spiritual and recovery truth and reveal how her recovery practices evolved into an entire practice of recovery and life coaching where she now helps others create a meaningful life by design so listen up.
Contact Kylie & Learn More About A Meaningful Life By Design:
https://ameaningfullifebydesign.com/
Buddhist 8 Step Recovery:
https://brnadmin.buddhistrecovery.org/assets/uploads/files/8_Step_Recovery-Preface.pdf
Song that reminds Kylie of Recovery:
Let it Go (From the Movie Frozen): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVVTZgwYwVo
Favorite Recovery Literature (Quit Lit): https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Taming-the-Tiger/Akong-Tulku-Rinpoche/9780892815692
Best Piece of Recovery Advice:
Don’t ask yourself what’s wrong with you, but instead ask yourself what happened to you
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This week our intrepid co-host Jason has an incredibly entertaining and indeed inspiring interview with Cincinnati radio DJ, host and creator of the wildly popular Tragedy to Triumph podcast, and person in long term recovery, Aaron Laine. Aaron shares openly about his struggle with alcoholism and addiction, subsequent recovery, and what life is like now flourishing in recovery as he uses his God given gifts to help spread the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is possible. To that end, to say that Aaron is active in the Recovery community would be a drastic understatement, from Radio to TV to event hosting – Aaron’s definitely making a difference for those who still suffer with addiction and alcoholism. Aaron’s been an inspiration Jason and to countless others, and you can now officially count me in the official/unofficial Aaron Laine Fan Club, and dare I predict you too may wind up a fan of Aaron’s after listening to what amounts to be an incredible discussion between to recovery powerhouses. Jason has tons of laughs as they talk about ego, family, podcasting, God's purpose, service, and a whole lot more so listen up.
Book Recommendation: Drop The Rock by Bill P. Todd W. and Sarah S.
Song that symbolizes recovery to Aaron: Priceless by for KING & COUNTRY
Best piece of advice: "Keep doing what you're doing"
Contact Aaron at
FB: @fromtragedy
Aaron.laine@icloud.com
www.fromtragedy.com
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In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a Way Out Podcast first with Jason A, who appeared on our very first episode way back in March of 2016 and is the only person we’ve interviewed more than once, and as you’ll learn for very good reason. Much has happened in the span of that 5 plus years and 250 episodes later in the evolution of this podcast as you’ll discover if you dare to venture back to our opening episode featuring Jason and compare it to our most recent offerings. His story is truly inspiring and also a work in progress, as is this podcast. Much has been learned since and indeed the same is true in Jason’s journey to and through recovery to this point. Jason shares candidly about his struggles with relapse which ultimately led to liver failure, and quite literally ending up accepting his condition was terminal and death was extremely near. In what would amount to be a miracle in getting approved for a transplant, Jason shares his transplant journey and what life is like today post-transplant thriving in recovery. Jason’s journey is proof positive that recovery is not linear nor is it perfect, indeed we stumble, we fall down, and if we keep working toward it we can indeed regain our footing and achieve meaningful and enduring recovery so listen up.
Favorite recovery literature (Quit Lit): Daily Reflections
Best piece of recovery advice: Take it easy, self-care, and meditation
Song that symbolizes recovery: I never promised you a rose garden by Lynn Anderson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXHsWBKKNbI
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In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly inspiring and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, and the one and only Sober Yoga Girl, Alex McRobert AKA Alex McRobs for those of you who are social media inclined. Alex, a self-proclaimed and quintessential party girl since high school, shares her journey to and through sobriety to this point, which included addressing her mental health in addition to her true reckoning with her relationship alcohol, which over time turned from relatively harmless and consequence free partying to a progressive and indeed destructive force in her life. The instrumental move for Alex was joining one year no beer, a community of people who were actively working on eliminating alcohol from their lives. This is where the magic happened, where Alex began to hear the recovery and sobriety journeys of those who have gone down the path before her and of those who were starting that journey alongside her. What started out as a 28-day sobriety goal, turned into 90 days, which has now spanned more than two years and counting. Finding her true purpose, which is operating her Mindful Life Practice and Sober Curious Yoga School, sprang from her decision to share her recovery journey publicly, which prompted folks to reach out to Alex to help them on their own quest to sobriety and recovery, thus integrating Yoga and Recovery coaching into a blended model that brings her students on a path to recovery and wellness. Without question, Alex’s decision to get sober and then share her journey to sobriety openly has not only transformed her own life, but the lives of a growing number of people she’s been able to reach as a result, so listen up as Alex McRobs Recovers Out Loud with us, right now.
The Mindful Life Practice Community:
www.themindfullifepractice.com
Sober Curious Yoga School:
https://www.themindfullifepractice.com/sober-curious-yoga-school
Alex’s regular recovery routine:
Yoga, Meditation, Journaling & Writing, Connecting to the Sober and Yoga Communities
Favorite Recovery Literature AKA Quit Lit:
Meditations from the Mat by Rolf Gates and Katrina Kenison:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/58710/meditations-from-the-mat-by-rolf-gates-and-katrina-kenison/
Daily Reflections on Yoga, Recovery and Getting Well by Rolf Gates:
https://www.hayhouse.com/daily-reflections-on-yoga-addiction-and-getting-well-paperback
The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober by Catherin Gray:
https://www.amazon.com/Unexpected-Joy-Being-Sober-alcohol-free/dp/1912023385
What is the best piece of advice you received in recovery?
Connecting to the wisdom, experience, strength, and hope of other people’s recovery journeys
What song symbolizes your recovery?
Sober by Kelly Clarkson:
https://youtu.be/bTQ1IWQv6II
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In this edition of The Way Out our magnificent recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Katie Schwartz. Katie shares with us about her unresolved trauma and how it has hindered her attempts at recovery. No doubt many of us can identify with the pain and trauma caused as a result of the many forms that parental abandonment can take. The hit on our self-worth, and the often-subconscious obsession for validation from people can indeed set us on a crash course and headlong into addiction, alcoholism, and chaos. After multiple relapses Katie has never given up the fight for meaningful and enduring recovery, and when she was truly ready for help, help came to her in a big way. Doing whatever it took to recover for Katie meant treatment, working the 12-Steps and connecting to a Higher Power, and as a result Katie recently decided to start sharing her story and realized it has indeed activated her powers! So Listen Up as Katie Recovers Out Loud.
Contact Katie at katie80schwartz@gmail.com
or on the group Sober and Serious on Facebook
Best Advice: Remain teachable
Book Recommendation: The Bible APP (Katie don't read)
Song that symbolizes recovery:
Movin' on up by Primal Scream
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In this rendition of The way Out our beloved co-host Jason’s got a whopper of an interview with person in long term recovery Crystal Hill Hover, who is also a mother, wife, owner of 5 sober homes and a recovery wellness center and Gym and if that wasn’t enough, she just earned her Master’s Degree to boot. Crystal's story is extremely inspiring to say the least. She battled against a myriad of personal demons to achieve enduring sobriety and personal freedom - including addiction, an eating disorder, criminal thinking as well as an array of mental health issues. For Crystal it wasn’t until she landed in prison and subsequent boot camp and follow-on treatment that she was truly able to face her problems head on and ultimately find God, that true recovery began to take hold. Today she has an MBA and is doing amazing things to help and support the recovery community! You're definitely going to want to learn more, so listen up.
Best piece of advice: See disruptions as opportunities
Book Recommendations:
Strengths Based Leadership by Tom Rath and Barry Conchie
Life Without Ed by Jenny Schaefer
E.A.R.L.: The Autobiography of DMX
Songs that symbolize recovery to Crystal:
Unfinishedby Mandisa
Grace Got Youby Mercy Me
One Love Housing
www.onelovehousing.com
Twin Cities Recovery Gym and Wellness Center
Https://www.faceboook.com/TwinCitiesRecoveryGym/
Bus Pick up for church:
4:45-5 pm @ Will Work for Recovery to
Saturday 6PM Service @ Free Grace United Elk River.
Then Free meal @ restaurant and transportation back to WWFR
Contact Crystal @
crystal.onelovehousing@gmail.com
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In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a superbly relatable and edifying interview with person in long term recovery and personal trainer turned transformational life coach who specializes in helping people overcome addiction and emotional trauma – Alex Bales. His mission? To help people effortlessly evolve to create a life they love again full of health and joy. Alex’s journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by painful experiences combined with a feeling of being different than everyone else in his early life, which set the stage for addiction and alcoholism to make their debut in early adulthood, a scenario oh so many of us know firsthand. Alex’s journey to recovery, like many of us, was not linear and indeed was marked by setbacks, yet what matters most is Alex truly surrendered and got honest about the reality of his addiction and alcoholism, and equally as important is he genuinely wanted and asked for help to start to truly recover. A recovery and wellness journey that brought about a profound spiritual awakening that allowed Alex to finally turn all of his pain into the remarkable purpose of helping others overcome alcoholism, addiction, and emotional trauma. Read: helping others transform their pain into purpose in their own lives. Without question, my conversation with Alex brings us a plethora of spiritual and recovery truth including how to apply his 5 Tenants of wellness so listen up.
5 Tenants of wellness: Rest, Physical Activity/Movement, Nutrition, Relationships, Spirituality/Mindfulness
Alex Bales on Facebook is https://m.facebook.com/alex.bales.560?ref=bookmarks
Alex Bales on Instagram is https://www.instagram.com/soberfitalex/
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I’m delighted to reassure The Way Out faithful that our beloved co-host Jason is back with a killer interview. It’s been a minute since we’ve heard from Jason, but rest assured Jason is still rocking his recovery. Fact is, Jason was on out on assignment, getting us some more powerful recovery stories such as this one with Author and person in long term recovery, Tommy Figlioli, otherwise known as Tommy Figs. Tommy shares his journey to and through recovery to this point including his life growing up in Brooklyn NY, and the "bumpy road" to recovery as he calls it. From a kid desperate to fit in and missing that all important male role model to near suicide and living the hard street life to finally surrendering, getting honest and finding meaningful and enduring recovery, Tommy’s story has it all. We also talk about his hardest challenge while living clean and what inspired him to write a memoir entitled That's What Junkies Do. There's a whole lot of heart and even more HOPE in this episode so listen up.
Contact info AND all the book and podcast appearances info for Tommy:
https://linktr.ee/TommyFigs
Book recommendation: Hands Like You Are Praying: by Sam Anthony Luciana
Song that symbolizes recovery: Amazing by Aerosmith
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In this edition of The Way Out we bring you an extraordinary interview I had the good fortune of having with The Recovery Guy, Robert Pardon, who just celebrated his 35th year of long-term recovery from alcoholism and addiction, and Hosts The Recovery Guy Podcast and is without question the genuine article. Roberts journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by profound feelings of inadequacy and not fitting in while in active addiction and alcoholism and using external substances and behaviors in an attempt to ameliorate this deep seeded pain, a feeling so many of us can deeply relate with. Robert’s recovery journey then, is consequently marked by meaningful connections to people in long term recovery who had something he desperately wanted – peace, serenity, and a level of contentment that demonstrates a recovery program well worked. There’s near limitless relatability to the internal and external adversity in Robert’s journey and the spiritual and recovery wisdom that emanates through his story is equally as vast. Without question the headline is that you can recover regardless of anything or anyone provided you follow a few simple suggestions – namely admit we have a problem, trust God as you understand God, clean house and help others. To that end Robert shares his experience, strength, and hope with a passion and rawness that’s as heartfelt as it is evocative and incredibly enlightening so Listen Up.
Contact The Recovery Guy - Robert Pardon:
https://recoveryguy.org/contact/
The Recovery Guy Podcast:
https://recoveryguy.org/category/podcast/
Greatest Recovery Advice:
You can get weller than well
Song that Reminds Robert of Recovery
“I Can’t Drive 55” – Sammy Haggar
https://youtu.be/RvV3nn_de2k
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In this rendition of The Way Out we have an exceedingly revealing and illuminating discussion with renowned specialists and Authors on Love First Intervention, Jeff and Debra Jay. Both Jeff and Debra are in long term recovery in their own right, Jeff from addiction and alcoholism and Debra from the codependency and family side of recovery. Jeff’s owes his recovery and very life for that matter to a successful intervention, an experience that proved to be fateful indeed. Their experience in their own recovery journeys, combined with their subsequent professional experience in treating those with addiction and their families has culminated in a new model of addiction intervention that represents a true shift in what a traditional intervention looks like. A model that has been incredibly well laid in in the now Third Edition of their book Love First – A Family’s Guide to Intervention. I lieu of the often anger, threat, and ultimatum centric affair that aims to shame or scare the suffering addict or alcoholic into a recovery program, the Love First approach focuses on the family first and builds family recovery teams who are united in a love centered approach, and to that end have already begun their own recovery process well before the intervention is conducted. When the anger and negative emotions are removed, the dynamic has been radically changed, often with much more desirable outcomes for the addict who is suffering and the families who love them. We discuss the myth of the rock bottom requirement, what not to do in an intervention, the transformative power of a Love First Intervention, and most importantly that meaningful, enduring, and rewarding recovery for those who are in the midst of addiction and the families who love them is achievable and absolutely worth the effort so listen up.
Love First: A Family’s Guide to Intervention by Jeff and Debra Jay:
https://lovefirst.net/books-and-media/books-by-jeff-and-debra-jay/love-first-book/
Contact Jeff and Debra and Get Resources:
https://lovefirst.net/resources/
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In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a fascinating and indeed incredibly illuminating interview on the science of addiction with Neurosurgeon Dr. Paul Kaloostian. Dr. Kaloostian and I discuss the effects addictive substances have on our brain’s reward and memory centers, our physical wellness, and yes, even on our very genetic makeup which dovetails on what we already know about genetic predisposition to addiction. The known impact of addictive substances on our brain and body is quite profound, from the negative effect on our brain cells in response to these substances and behaviors, to the at times severe impact on our physical bodies. Equally or perhaps even more profound is the remarkably adaptive and healing properties of our brain cells and bodies to long-term abstinence and healthy behaviors that in many cases can completely reverse the damage initially caused by addictive substances or behaviors. We go on to explore the science behind how some of us are genetically predisposed to addictive substances and behaviors and how these substances and behaviors can actually change our very genetic makeup. Without question the best news Dr. Kaloostian brings us through the science of addiction and recovery is that the plasticity of or brain, and the healing properties of our bodies means that if we embrace sobriety and work toward wellness of our minds, bodies and spirits, true recovery – in every sense of that word is not only possible – it is a scientific certainty so Listen Up.
Dr. Paul Kaloostian’s Writing:
https://www.drpaulwriting.com
Contact Dr. Paul Kaloostian:
https://www.paulkaloostian.com/
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In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly enlightening and supremely relevant interview with Author of the new book “The Weight of Air – A Story of the Lies About Addiction and the Truth about Recovery” and person in long term recovery, David Poses. David’s story is rooted in the all-too-common dual struggle of having a mental health disorder such as depression and addiction, which creates an often incredibly difficult and complex chicken or the egg, which is the problem and which is the symptom, kind of issue to address. Are the substances causing the mental health disorder or is the mental health disorder the root and the cause of the addiction? Certainly, there’s plenty of evidence to support the fact that drug and alcohol abuse and addiction can exacerbate mental health disorders, and indeed make difficult or impossible to effectively treat. Indeed, addiction can cause what might be best described as situational mental health issues like depression and anxiety and once the addiction is treated effectively and recovery is achieved the depression and anxiety lift or substantially improve. Conversely, the opposite is also true for many folks who are suffering from any one or a combination of a severe and often chronic clinical anxiety, depression or other mental health disorder that is causing such acute pain the only option is to kill it or numb it with a substance of choice, which often turns into a near intractable addiction. For David, his severe depression ultimately led to heroin use, which ultimately led a decade plus long addiction. David shares how a medication, buprenorphine, along with therapy was the key for him to achieve rewarding and enduring recovery when nothing else prior had worked, and why this can and should be a viable and available treatment option for those in the throws of opioid addiction and desperately looking for a way to safely and effectively stop opioid abuse and misuse and address their mental health so they can begin the life changing process that is recovery so listen up. The Weight of Air – A Story of the Lies About Addiction and the Truth about Recovery and person in long term recovery by David Poses: https://davidposes.com/the-weight-of-air Contact David: https://davidposes.com/contact-1 Copyright: (c) 2015-2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk) licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/).
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In this edition of The Way Out Jason’s got an interview that’s sure to be an instant classic here at The Way Out Podcast with person in long term recovery and author of the new memoir Eternally Expecting: A Mom of Eight Gets Sober and Gives Birth to a New Life...Her Own, Amy Liz Harrison. Jason and Amy talk about the pressures that came from trying to keep up appearances, both inside and outside the home, which was tantamount to Amy leading a Jekyll and Hyde double life. From the all too familiar childhood sense of feeling different from everyone else, to feeling like our substance of choice was the answer to all our problems, to the nothing short of miraculous recovery born out of the ashes of her rock bottom – Amy’s journey to and through recovery to this point is incredibly relatable, enlightening, and indeed inspiring. The journey through all the heartache will truly give you hope when you hear what recovery has done for the lives of Amy and her family. This one is genuinely a must hear so listen up.
Connect with Amy Liz Harrison on Instagram @amylizharrison and visit
www.amylizharrison.com.
Eternally Expecting: A Mom of Eight Gets Sober and Gives Birth to a New Life...Her Own
https://www.amazon.com/Eternally-Expecting-Eight-Sober-Gives/dp/1951407547/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1Y7SKU9YHY3NR&dchild=1&keywords=eternally+expecting+book&qid=1619734857&sprefix=Eternally%2Caps%2C256&sr=8-3
Best piece of advice: "Be comfortable with being uncomfortable!"
Book Recommendation: Big Book and NA literature
Recovery song: Dreams by Van Halen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PqVeex4QU
Daily Routine: meetings everyday, prayer and meditation most days, daily readings
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In this installment of The Way Out we bring you a remarkable, incredibly useful, and yes desperately needed discussion on how couples can build healthy, meaningful relationships in Recovery. It was a true pleasure and honor to interview Author and Attorney Chantal Jauvin, whom, along with her husband Bill has navigated their own and collective recovery journeys for 13 years and counting. There are many resources for those with a substance use disorder, like alcoholism or addiction and likewise a plethora of resources for those whom identify as co-dependent, the all too common manifestation of the family disease that is addiction. What is lacking, until now, is a guide for couples to work through the complex and challenging issues that they are faced with when alcoholism or addiction surfaces. Chantal set out to fill this chasm in the recovery literature sphere, and quite frankly – she nailed it with Love Without Martinis How Couples Build Healthy Relationships in Recovery based on real stories. Unquestionably the two key truths born out of Chantal’s work and subsequent book are embodied by two quotes by two well known authors in their own right. Earnie Larson and Tim O’Brien. The first truth, one close to our hearts here at The Way Out Podcast is represented by Author Tim O’Brien’s quote that reads “Storytelling is the essential human activity. The harder the situation, the more essential it is.”. Arguably there is no more difficult situation a person can face than that of addiction, especially when we understand the full scope and effect it has on the addicted person and those closest to them – often their partner and immediate family. Hearing how others overcame their problem gives us a roadmap to overcome our own, and gives us hope that it is possible. They can be very much like trusted travel guides whom have been where we’ve been and relate to that, but at the very same time they have also been where we desperately want to go, and show us how they got there so they we might too. The second truth is personified by Recovery Author Earnie Larson who said “The core of recovery is becoming a person increasingly capable of functioning in a healthy relationship”. That’s the holy grail of Recovery, is to transcend mere abstinence and learn how to love ourselves and others in a healthy, rewarding way that aligns with the ideals of the people we’re striving to become. To that end, I give you a wonderfully enlightening and intensely valuable foray into how couples navigate the road to a happy and loving relationship in Recovery so listen up. Contact Chantal: https://chantaljauvin.com/contact-me/ Love Without Martinis by Chantal Jauvin: https://chantaljauvin.com/product/love-without-martinis/ Dr. Jeremy Frank (Book Contributor): https://jeremyfrankphd.com/
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In this rendition of The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason interviews woman in long term recovery, Jennifer Leone. Jennifer is truly an open book as she shares how she came back from the ashes of addiction and childhood trauma to find herself, rebuild her relationships, develop a stellar career, and found a powerful voice that she uses to help others recover! Jason and Jennifer talk about trauma, parenting, and purpose. Her story is proof positive that we can indeed recover from addiction, trauma, and live a rewarding life of purpose in sobriety. The recovery and spiritual truths that emanate throughout Jennifer’s journey are both universal and incredibly relatable. Her story also reminds us recovery is an ongoing process, and some things need to be worked on repeatedly. All of this makes for one highly instructive and inspiring interview so listen up.
The Edge Treatment Center on Facebook and online:
https://www.facebook.com/1801725480077272/
www.theedgetreatment.com
Jennifer's Live Talk Show-
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC-Z6Y_xGrqD-uH0eSqGjFUw
Contact Jennifer on her personal FB profile:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008260241318
Book Recommendation: "Think like a Monk" by Jay Shetty
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y8QL432/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Song Recommendation: You Can't Rush Your Healing by Trevor Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3FgNcASkVQ
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In this edition of the The Way Out we have an incredibly brave, honest and enlightening interview with someone that has recently begun their journey of recovery from alcohol and drug addiction. When this interview was recorded, Hope Collaton had a collective 104 days clean and 69 days sober – and it’s important to stress they were not continuous, and that’s been an important part of her process as she continues to learn and apply the tools of SMART recovery in her daily life. Often we in the recovery community get very hung up on a clean and sober date; after which point we’ve remained completely abstinent – and should we slip, or relapse we start all over again with a new date – like we’ve lost all of that time in sobriety we just worked so hard to accumulate. Without question, one of the big recovery truths that comes out of Hope’s journey to and through recovery to this point is that every day that we’re clean and sober, counts and helps us as we navigate the often non-linear, rocky road to meaningful and enduring recovery. Just as instructive is the truly transformative power that lies in a program of recovery that provides real tools that allow us to make meaningful changes to our thoughts and actions combined with a community of people who are modeling these positive behaviors and indeed show us, just like Hope does, that sustained and healthy recovery is indeed possible and without out question worth the effort so listen up.
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This week we’ve got a truly extraordinary interview for you with two brothers in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction. We hear what it was like for these brothers to grow up in the same house, with a single Mom and Dads that were either barely there, or not there at all. That’s right folks, our exceptional co-host interviews his younger brother, Brandon Rudeen on his own journey to and through this point in his recovery and let me tell you right now folks, it’s one wild ride with a whole lot of spiritual and recovery truth layered in. This interview is a genuinely special one to Jason, as evidenced by the deep talks they get into about recovery and the evolution of their relationship over the years. They used to get high together, and now by the grace of God they do recovery together so listen up.
Contact Info: Brandon.rudeen59@gmail.com
Best piece of advice: Bring the body, the mind will follow
Book recommendation: Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
Song that reminds Brandon of my recovery: Nice to know you - Incubus
Recovery Resource: Will Work for Recovery
https://willworkforrecovery.org/
Daily Routine: Start with a daily meditation reading and periodically talk to God
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In this edition of The Way Out, we’ve got an incredibly special interview with a person in long term recovery from the Native American Indigenous Community. His Native American name is Wanbdi Gdeska, which translates to Spotted Eagle, and he’s otherwise known as Michael Oconnor. Michael’s journey through and to this point in his recovery is both strikingly similar to, and profoundly different to so many we’ve had the sacred opportunity to share. So many of us can relate to adverse childhood experiences, and the trauma that can haunt us. So many of us can relate to the allure and vicious and seemingly unbreakable spell alcohol, drugs, and addictive behaviors can have on us. Indeed many of us can relate to reaching spiritual and emotional bankruptcy, and the unmistakably awful feeling that accompanies it. The truly fortunate among us have had the experience immediately following of a profound and sincere surrender and a genuine willingness to truly change and do whatever it takes to get better. Not too many of us, however, can truly understand how growing up as an indigenous person in America, complicates life. Likely very few of us can relate to the underprivileged conditions that are pervasive in the Native American community. Very few of us can truly relate to the experience of not seeing anyone that looks like you in recovery. No doubt, many of us thought we were unique and different, but the astonishingly low rates of recovery in the indigenous community make it very difficult for those in the indigenous community to find someone from their own community to relate to and serve as a mentor in recovery. Michael has taken this on as important part of his own recovery, to provide an example to those in his community that enduring, meaningful, and rewarding recovery is possible. Despite the very real differences in his journey to recovery, we get the unshakable feeling that the spiritual and recovery truths that Michael so humbly shares with us are with out a doubt universal and indeed achievable to all who earnestly seek them so listen up.
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This week our magnificent co-host Jason has a genuinely instructive interview with person in long term recovery, Jesse Plumley. Jesse’s story of overcoming his battle with drugs and alcohol reinforces truly universal truths about alcoholism, addiction and what it takes to achieve durable recovery. We must, as Jesse did, admit to and face the fact we have a problem and then, and this is so critical, we must reach out and seek help from those who have overcome similar problems. We must, as Jesse did, be willing to do whatever it takes to get better and recover and be willing to help others just as we were when we needed it most. We must, as Jesse did, make fundamental lifestyle changes and surround ourselves with others who’ve done and are doing the same. Jesse’s recovery is not rooted in any one particular program, yet his journey and lifestyle changes mirror many of the fundamental principles of any well-known recovery program! No doubt about it, there’s lots of great recovery insights in this episode so listen up.
Contact Jesse at jesseplumley1986@gmail.com
Best Piece of Advice: Take it one day, or one moment at a time!
Book Recommendation: Anything by Brene Brown
Song that symbolizes recovery to Jesse: The Package by Perfect Circle
Recommended recovery resources: Unlocking Us Podcast AND having a support network
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In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Yoga and meditation practitioner and advocate, as well as a Yoga Teacher and founder of The Balanced Self – Will Black. Will recounts his journey through alcoholism and to and through recovery to this point in extremely relatable, authentic, and transparent fashion. Of specific value is to hear Will share about his personal struggle with alcohol and depression and how tapping into a recovery community combined with meditation and ultimately Yoga provided a transformational pathway to lasting and meaningful recovery. Undoubtedly one of the key recovery truths Will’s story highlights is how important connecting to a recovery community with others in sobriety is in entering and maintaining recovery. This is how we learn and really begin to believe that if other folks that are like us can get better, then indeed we can too. Of equal importance is finding a recovery pathway that both speaks to you and works for you, in Will’s case Meditation and Yoga, so that integrating it into your daily routine allows for it to truly become a way of life you actually enjoy living. Regardless of your preferred recovery pathway there’s much we can learn from Will’s journey to sobriety and ultimately the Balanced Self so Listen Up.
Reach to Will:
https://www.willowenblack.com/
R/StopDrinking on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/
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In this edition of the way out our exceptional co-host Jason brings us an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery and author of the new addiction memoir Savage: A Journey Through the Opioid Epidemic, Stephen J Sacchi. If you’re like us, you’ll be instantly smitten with Stephen’s quick wit and always honest and often dark and self-deprecating humor that is artfully interwoven into a spellbinding recounting of his often-rocky road to recovery. He shares honestly about the struggles he had along the way and what it was like writing his memoir Savage. Without question, Stephen’s story illuminates two irrefutably universal truths about addiction and recovery. First, our rock bottom is when we stop digging and often that is an emotional and spiritual bottom – not a monetary or material one. Second, and equally as instructive, is that recovery and building a new life is a process that takes time, often years or even decades. If we allow ourselves to be patient and bite it off in one day at a time chunks, we will get better and in turn, life will follow suit. After all the lessons Stephen’s learned there's lots of instructive wisdom in this episode so listen up.
Best piece of advice- It takes years to build a better life
Book Recommendation- The War of Art: by Stephen Pressfield:
https://www.amazon.com/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/1936891026/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2QF7HZA4CWMZH&dchild=1&keywords=the+war+of+art+by+steven+pressfield&qid=1614791057&sprefix=The+war+of+art%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1
Song that symbolizes recovery to Stephen
Drive : by Incubus
Contact Info: @unclesacchi on Instagram
Stephen's book Savage is available on Amazon and at Barnes and Noble:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/savage-stephen-j-sacchi/1138379483
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In this installment of The Way Out we have an ultra-informative and super-instructive interview with person in long term recovery and Author of the new, and folks I don’t say this often, absolute must-read book - 50 Ways to Worry Less Now - Gigi Langer. Gigi shares with us her journey to and through recovery and what she’s learned up to this point in 35 years of sobriety including many of the recovery, spiritual, energy, and cognitive tools that can put an end to the pernicious worry, anxiety and ultimately fear that dogs so many of us prior to, and even in sobriety. Without question one of the overriding and compelling elements arising out of Gigi’s story is the series of reckonings and recoveries that occur throughout her recovery journey, starting with addiction and alcoholism, all the way through codependency and being an adult child of an alcoholic. Equally as fascinating is the phenomenon and experience of being an a Highly Sensitive Person, first identified by Dr. Elaine Aron and how profoundly important it was for her to understand and accept this about herself and then undergo a process of learning, acquiring, and applying an assortment of tools to bring about a transformative recovery rooted in the 12-Steps and a Higher Power. There’s so much spiritual truth and recovery tools in this here interview so you might just have to play this one twice but whatever you, do make sure you listen up.
50 Ways to Worry Less Now: Reject Negative Thinking to Find Peace, Clarity, and Connection
https://gigilanger.com/
Other Books and Resources Recommended by Gigi Langer:
Pema Chodron:
https://pemachodronfoundation.org/product-category/books/
Dr. Kristin Neff:
https://self-compassion.org/
A Course in Miracles:
https://acim.org/
Emmet Fox:
https://www.unity.org/sites/unity.org/files/files/Free-Materials/2018/Exerpt-GoldenKey-booklet.pdf
http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/The%20Sermon%20on%20the%20Mount.pdf
The Shack:
http://wmpaulyoung.com/the-shack/
Highly Sensitive Person (Elaine Aron):
https://hsperson.com/
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We have Author of the new book Tri-Polar: The Story of a Bipolar Athlete and person in long term recovery Tim Davis. Tim, as you may have guessed, lives with Bipolar disorder and shares an exceedingly instructive and remarkable story of recovery from drug and alcohol addiction in the midst of also having to come to grips with and learn to successfully cope with his mental health. Tim’s story is ultimately one of personal triumph over two seemingly intractable afflictions; addiction and bipolar disorder. Out of this victory we gain incredibly valuable wisdom and insight into what it took for Tim to overcome the very diseases that threatened his very life and come to understand that if we apply the same formula to our own lives, we too can achieve meaningful and enduring recovery. Without question, Tim’s story bears irrefutable witness to the redeeming value of true surrender, absolute willingness to do whatever it takes to get better, and the commitment to addressing mental health alongside a recovery program such as the 12-Steps so listen up.
Tri-Polar: The Story of a Bipolar Athlete by Tim Davis:
https://ultratimdavis.com/?fbclid=IwAR2_gT_ar27_znlYuhtBot0100TWksr2o9SwPro3L-NPTDGCw0h9M3M9glk
Contact Tim Davis:
https://ultratimdavis.com/
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In this edition of the The Way Out our tremendous co-host Jason gets the straight truth in his interview with Veronica Powell. Veronica talks about growing up on the south side of Chicago, becoming a product of the harsh and difficult environment in which she grew up, and how trying it was to navigate her childhood without any real positive male role models. After years of abusive relationships and struggling with drugs and alcohol, Veronica tells us how God set her free from the chains of addiction and gave her a newfound purpose and a servant's heart! She definitely sticks to the truth and keeps it real on this episode so listen up.
Best piece of advice: Just be YOU!
Book Recommendation: Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren
Song that symbolizes recovery for Veronica: Your Love by William Murphy
Recovery Resources:
changingourcity.org
minnesotahopedealerz.org
and
Truth101 via FaceBook
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In this edition of The Way Out co-host extraordinaire Jason has a certified must listen interview with person in longtime recovery and co-founder of the Recovery group Sober Squad, Colin Cash. Colin was born on a reservation in northern Minnesota but was raised as a ward of the state, bouncing between foster homes and group homes. With no roots and no loving home, he shares about where his problems took him and how he ultimately found a way out. No doubt one of the over-arching themes of Colin’s recovery story is the false beliefs that kept him stuck and in his addiction, and the positive beliefs, like in that of his Higher Power, that helped him achieve a meaningful and lasting recovery and a very special belief that led him to start a movement which would help those within and outside of his community! Colin’s come from thinking he was a zero to a being a true recovery hero and he’s just getting started so listen up.
Contact Info:
Sober Squad Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/SoberSquad2016/?ref=share
Book Recommendations:
In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: by Gabor Mate
Song that symbolizes recovery to Colin:
Make a Change by Nahko and The Medicine People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUqWAxsSZM
Great Spirit by Nahko Bear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M7nETLOsKQ
Daily Routine: Being present in each moment (mindfulness)
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This week Jason’s got a wonderful interview with the founder and creator of the YouTube Recovery Series Our Recovery Life. Tom's story resonates on so many levels as he shares his journey to and through recovery thus far with a no holds barred approach on sharing what it was like, what happened, and what it’s like now. There’s some downright insane moments that will leave you wondering how he gets through and equally inspiring moments that provide real, honest to goodness hope. Tom has developed new passions on this journey and found some great meaning and purpose in his own life along the way. You quite simply can't help but be inspired by the story you're about to hear so Listen Up.
Book Recommendation: NA Basic Text and The Journey Continues
Recovery Song :High Cost Of Living by Jamey Johnson
Best piece of advice: Never give up
Most difficult thing Tom did: Ask for help
Most rewarding thing Tom did: His Family
Contact Tom via email : ourrecoverylife@gmail.com
Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/Our-Recovery-Life-113845923667016
On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwTv17wU1i6DtiS8-EQ3ikA/videos
Coming soon= Our Recovery Life Podcast and Live on Twitch TV
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In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a must listen interview with Richard Capriola who shares with us invaluable tools that can serve as a guide we can use should we have an adolescent child or loved one that may be engaging in Substance Abuse. Many of us know all too well, how devastating addiction and alcoholism can be to a family, especially if the addicted individual is a child or adolescent. For over two decades, Richard has been providing mental health and addiction counseling services to both adults and adolescents, giving him a wealth of experience and knowledge in the areas of addiction and mental health diagnosis and treatment. One critical fact we explore in our discussion is the key differences in how addiction manifests itself in the life of an adolescent as compared to an adult. These key differences impact how we identify a substance abuse problem in an adolescent versus an adult and can make all the difference in making a real and meaningful difference in a child’s life. Richard has distilled all of this incredibly valuable wisdom and practical guidance in his new book The Addicted Child: A Parent's Guide to Adolescent Substance Abuse. We discuss how we recognize substance abuse, addiction, alcoholism, as well as process and mental health disorders in an adolescent child, how we can get them the help they need, and what that help looks like in adolescent children so listen up.
The Addicted Child: A Parent's Guide to Adolescent Substance Abuse by Richard Capriola
https://www.amazon.com/Addicted-Child-Parents-Adolescent-Substance-ebook/dp/B08KJHJYBY
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We have a truly remarkable story to share with you about a woman, who’s life throughout her adolescence and for most of her adult life, had two constants - chaos and alcohol. Like so many of us who have battled King Alcohol or the Dictator that is Addiction the all too familiar company of trauma and mental health issues make their appearances in this truly extraordinary story of how this remarkable woman who’s relationship with alcohol never seems to be a problem. In fact, in so many ways Alcohol becomes so tightly integrated into her identity it becomes nearly impossible to separate herself from the alcohol fueled escapades that only serve to add to the wild and enigmatic persona that is always the life of the party and surely the last one to call it a night. A story, told through the eyes of mother, writer, and soon to be published Author, and indeed the one person who had the best view of it all, Victoria Vanstone herself. Victoria’s story is chalked full of relatable experiences, wisdom, and sobriety truth – and of equal value are the two key messages that rise to the top and are as striking as they are instructive. Minimizing real pain from trauma does not make it disappear. Trauma of any kind, no matter how insignificant it may seem as compared to another, affects each of us differently and the emotional toll it exacts it quite real and must be dealt with in order for any meaningful recovery to take place. Victoria also underscores an important fact – alcoholism and addiction is very spectrum and we need not meet a litmus test to reckon with our own relationship with alcohol or substances. Read: we don’t have to be penniless and destitute to fully concede to our innermost selves that in fact alcohol is no longer serving us; an instead is very much harming us and indeed is preventing us from living the life we are truly capable of living so Listen Up.
Victoria Vanstone’s Blog:
Drunk Mummy Sober Mummy - https://www.drunkmummysobermummy.com/
The Sober Social for Sober Curious Women - https://www.facebook.com/groups/913823235768685
Look for Victoria’s new book coming to an online book seller soon!
A Thousand Wasted Sundays (All About Becoming A Sober Parent)
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We’ve prepared for you an incredibly relevant and applicable Power Topic to serve as the main feature of this rendition of The Way Out Podcast. If we’ve been in recovery for any substantial length of time, it’s quite likely we’ve experienced a common and often subtle enemy to our serenity, happiness, and indeed sobriety itself. Regression, or backsliding as it may be dubbed, is process in which we revert to either old patterns of thinking or behavior, or pickup new counter-productive thoughts or conduct that actively work against our forward progress in Recovery. These attitudes, thoughts, and behaviors, if left unchecked can very much erode our serenity and peace of mind, often referred to us being “dry” or suffering from “untreated alcoholism or addiction” and even could present the ultimate consequence – relapse. These warning signs are also an opportunity to apply the HOW in our recovery toolkit, wherein we apply rigorous honesty about the attitudes, thoughts, and behaviors we’re currently and actively engaging in and then being open and willing to do the work required to change our behaviors in order begin moving forward again, one day at a time. We’ll address how we can identify if we’re regressing, and provide a practical guide on HOW we make the simple changes that will have us cultivating gratitude and forgiveness of self and others and engaging in constructive recovery-enhancing activities, plus we’ll share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls so Listen Up!
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In this rendition of the The Way Out we’re truly honored to bring you a special interview with The Very Reverend Canon Dr. John Crean Jr., an ordained Episcopal Priest, Professor, Author, and now distinguished guest of this very podcast. Father John is an expert in Religious Medieval German literature as well as foreign language teaching methodologies. During his work, Father John struck upon on an incredible document with roots going all the way back to 480 AD, written by Saint Benedict. This document originally penned in Latin during a very chaotic time in the Roman Empire had been translated to German for Female Convents. Benedict had fled Rome for the desert due to the rampant sin, debauchery, and decidedly unchristian behavior that had befallen Rome at the time and others began to join him in search of a more God centered life than what Rome had to offer. While there, he authored what’s now called the Rule of Saint Benedict – a guide for how monasteries should be run. Father John, no stranger to the 12 Steps and the masterful work entitled “Alcoholics Anonymous”, also referred to as the Big Book, began to see that the spiritual principles embodied in the 12 Steps and the book Alcoholics Anonymous were the very principles Saint Benedict had incorporated into The Rule of Saint Benedict some 1500 years ago. The brilliance of what Father John has done with these two ideas is to incorporate them into a practical daily reader designed to enhance your daily recovery repertoire. Thus, Recovering Benedict – Twelve Step Living and the Rule of Benedict was born. Father John and I explore some of the more profound and significant touchstones between the Rule of Benedict and the 12-Steps which reemphasize the truly universal spiritual principles of forgiveness of self and others, gratitude, discipline and above all love – so listen up.
Recovering Benedict: Twelve-Step Living and the Rule of Benedict by John Edward Crean Jr.:
https://g.co/kgs/AUwWjP
Life Recovery Devotional:
https://g.co/kgs/QNtWAH
The Rule of Benedict: A Spirituality for the 21stCentury
https://g.co/kgs/EZGoQk
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In this installment of the Way Out we give you a truly rare and extraordinary opportunity to hear both sides of the proverbial war on drugs. We hear from the point of view of the undercover cop, who dedicates his life to the often dangerous and clandestine world of informants, drug dealers, and addicts – and how that can color their perception of those who suffer from addiction and alcoholism. Then, we hear from the addict, who didn’t intend to become one, but nonetheless finds himself in a knock down drag out battle with opioid addiction, even turning to selling narcotics to feed his growing and out of control addiction. The kicker you ask? The addict turned dealer and the thrill seeking undercover cop is the same person – and that’s just the start of what is genuinely an incredible story of a man who at one point has to make the ultimate split second decision as a police officer, finds himself growing to hate the addicts and dealers he’s chasing, and ultimately becomes one himself – that is the story of Brock Bevell, but Brock’s story doesn’t end there – no Brock does indeed persevere and now over ten years sober shares his amazing story of high drama, intrigue and most importantly hope with us so listen up.
Chase the Vase:
https://www.chasethevase.com/
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This week our unfailing superstar co-host Jason has a truly raw and authentic interview with his friend and fellow in recovery, Robyn Wyttenback. Robyn talks about her Recovery path which has been riddled with pain and adversity. She has overcome losing her children, a devastating addiction, self-destructive codependency, and every kind of abuse you could possibly imagine. Despite these seemingly insurmountable odds she has achieved meaningful and lasting recovery to the tune of 4 years, has reunified with her kids and has dedicated her life to them and to sharing the message of hope for recovery so listen up.
If you'd like to reach out to Robyn here is her contact info - rrwytt75@gmail.com
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In this edition of The Way Out we have 2 spectacular guests sharing some genuine and downright legit experience, strength, and hope. Laura and Tom are the Mother Son duo behind the new book Unraveled, and are both now in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction. Laura and Tom’s stories are inextricably intertwined and one of family alcoholism and addiction, followed by meaningful and enduring recovery. The dueling perspectives of Mother and Son while in the throws of addiction and coming into lives of Recovery are at once refreshing and revealing, and most certainly provide ample hope and reason to believe that we can indeed break the cycle of addiction through the miracle that is 12-Step recovery so Listen Up.
Unraveled by Laura and Tom Boldt:
https://unraveledthebook.com
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In this rendition of the The Way Out our ever-reliable co-host Jason has a wonderfully enlightening interview with Mindset Coach Phil Garrie. Phil shares with us his own experience battling mental illness and suicidal ideation and how he has learned to transcend his own struggles with mental illness, as well as how he became inspired to start helping others do the same so listen up
Phil's Facebook group-
Positive Energy Phil (facebook.com)
On Instagram-
https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergyphil/
Phil's YouTube channel-
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg3eliJz-OKPAK2EECJlO7A?view_as=subscriber
Phil's podcast(also available on other platforms)
https://open.spotify.com/show/2gVi01qoZoykXwtb2FLzVX
Best piece of advice= Love Yourself
Book recommendations=
7 habits of highly effective people
- Stephen Covey
You can put yourself next on the list
- Louise Hay
Song that reminds Phil of his own recovery-
'Sunny days' by Lighthouse
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In this installment of the way out we have a tremendous interview with our new friend Tierni M. Tierni’s story is not unlike that of many of us who have wrestled with addiction and alcoholism. Tierni’s early childhood was marked by unexpected tragedy, fueling an overwhelming combination of anxiety and depression which led an eating disorder and ultimately substance use – and for Tierni Alcohol became the solution that made everything better. And as so often is the case it absolutely works until it stops working absolutely and turns into what can ultimately be, as Tierni learned firsthand, a fatal progression. Tierni shares her true tale of alcoholism and at long last recovery with us in only the way she can; genuinely and authentically – complete with all of the warts of imperfections, failures, and losses. That’s the beauty of Tierni and her story – it’s not polished up and clean, with a fairy tale ending. It’s a work in progress, it’s flawed and imperfect, and there’s things that she doesn’t have back – YET. That’s where the progress lives, the growth, and the magic of recovery truly lies. Not so coincidentally, that’s also exactly where we can all relate to each other in this journey we’re on. Who can actually relate to fairy tale endings and perfectly crafted recoveries? Exactly nobody; so to that end I give you a perfectly imperfect, wonderfully flawed and all together relatable interview with the one and only Tierni so Listen Up.
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In this edition of The Way Out our intrepid and talented co-host Jason has a profoundly personal and powerful interview with Judge Dyanna Street. Judge Street is the person that chose to give Jason another chance at life by awarding him a downward departure in his felony case in lieu of 98 months in prison. You'll get to know her as a person and get a rare opportunity step inside the mind of a judge. We learn what challenges and rewards come from doing this type of work, as well as hearing lots of powerful personal stories from her career So listen up.
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In this rendition of The Way Out we have two truly remarkable guests with one incredibly powerful message, that true and lasting recovery is possible – if you’re willing to do the necessary and yes, often hard work. Sean McCann and Andrea Aragon are each at once disarming and enchanting and are not just husband and wife, but also a compelling example of love, perseverance, and the embodiment of what a relationship can look like coming out the other side of the devastating toll alcoholism and addiction can wreak on a marriage. You might know Sean from his days with Great Big Sea and indeed you’d be well served to give a listen to his solo material, and believe me when I tell you, you won’t have to listen to Andrea long to understand why Sean adores her so. We talk a just a wee bit about the book they co-wrote, One Good Reason, and a whole lot about shedding shame, speaking our truth, and leaning into the difficult and essential work that leads to enduring and meaningful recovery not to mention a truly special surprise at the end of our chat which by my count is much more than One Good Reason to Listen Up.
The Book:
https://seanmccannsings.com/the-book
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This week the best recovery podcast co-host in the business, Jason has an outstanding interview with veritable Recovery Powerhouse Sherry Gaba. Sherry Gaba is a licensed clinical social worker, Psychotherapist, Life Coach, and Certified Recovery Coach specializing in individual, couples, family, and group psychotherapy as well as the editor of Recovery Today Magazine. Sherry was the go-to expert for Dr. Drew Pinsky’s Celebrity Rehab show on VH1 and later on the spin-off, VH1’s Sober House as well as Celebrity Rehab’s Sex Addiction. As you’ll soon discover, Sherry frames addiction and codependency as two sides from the same coin, indeed codependency has a lot more in common with addiction than we might think. We get to know Sherry, learn a lot from her about her life's work, addiction, and codependency, as well as how we can identify and overcome it so #Listenup
Sherry's books
FREE E-BOOK! "The truth about codependency" plus quiz
https://wakeuprecovery.com/codependency-quiz/
The Law of Sobriety: Attracting positive energy for a powerful recovery- by Sherry Gaba
https://www.amazon.com/Law-Sobriety-Attracting-Positive-Powerful/dp/0757315151/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&hvadid=78202831730487&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=sherry+gaba&qid=1604780709&sr=8-3&tag=mh0b-20
Love Smacked:How to stop the cycle of relationship addiction and codependency to find everlasting love.- by Sherry Gaba
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Smacked-Relationship-Codependency-Everlasting/dp/1628657405/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&hvadid=78202831730487&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=sherry+gaba&qid=1604780774&sr=8-1&tag=mh0b-20
To join the tribe at Wake Up Recovery for Codependents go to https://wakeuprecovery.com/
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In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got Holly Wilson; a Woman in long term recovery and the founder of Women's Recovery – a Treatment and Recovery Center for Women. Holly shares her story and journey through alcoholism and into long term recovery openly, honestly, and with a singular goal – that her story might inspire others to seek and achieve enduring and meaningful recovery. From early childhood trauma and battles with perfectionism, over-achieving, and self-harm to a bonafide battle with alcoholism, and a profound moment of clarity followed by honest the transformational work embodied in the 12 Steps - Holly’s story indeed has it all. Without question she’s an absolute treasure and talking recovery with a dynamo like Holly makes for tremendous recovery radio – so listen up.
Women's Recovery Treatment and Recovery Center
https://www.womensrecovery.com/
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This week our intrepid recovery podcast co-host Jason has a tremendous interview with Duane Fletcher – a person in long term recovery with nearly 8 years of continuous sobriety and co-host and co-creator of the Our Recovery Life Video Series on YouTube, which like this here podcast, features incredible recovery stories and recovery topics to inspire and enhance recovery. Duane’s story is an extremely powerful and all too familiar one of childhood instability, abuse, trauma, with a through line of chaos and wicked battle with addiction that even in sobriety proved to be a formidable adversary. Duane shares his story in particularly relatable and down to earth fashion and in a way to that is chalked full of hope for those who are still struggling. Through his remarkable journey to and through addiction and into recovery, Duane gives us plenty of recovery and spiritual wisdom we all can apply to our own recovery so Listen Up.
Best piece of advice: "Build and use your support network. You are not alone!"
Book Recommendation: Big Book- Acceptance is the Key (pg. 417)
Song that reminds Duane of his recovery.-
Slippin'- DMX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ww-TQUeA3E
Best I AM - FLAW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKCrI6VZjE
Daily practice: My knees hit first ( daily surrender)
Recovery resource: https://na.org/
Check Out Duane on the YouTube channel "Our Recovery Life"
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwTv17wU1i6DtiS8-EQ3ikA
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We’re back with another enlightening and valuable edition of our Recovery Power Topic Series. The topic dejour? Success and Recovery. Anyone who’s ever happened upon a recovery based social media group doesn’t have to look for too long or very hard to find folks highlighting their accomplishments in and out of recovery. Fact is folks do that in recovery meetings quite frequently too; and to that end a big part of 12 Step recovery is centered on celebrating length of sobriety milestones which seems magnified on social media often with corroborative evidence of what life was like pre recovery and what it’s like now in recovery in the form of the ubiquitous pre and post sobriety side by side pic with how much time has been spent sober, sometimes down to the minute. Now no doubt this can show real and honest hope that in fact recovery IS possible AND your cohost and I have certainly produced our own iterations of this very phenomenon in hopes that someone might just see it and think if THAT guy can do it – maybe, just maybe so can I. The slippery slope, however, is to start comparing how many reactions or as I like to call them now, internet points, yours gets versus another’s. Moreover, length of sobriety is a hyper one dimensional and rather shallow standard in which to measure the success of one’s recovery, much like the length of an individual’s life doesn’t tell you a whole lot about how well that life has been lived. Success then, is in the eye of the Recovery Holder, and we’re here to guide you through some of the standards, spiritual truths, and recovery principles at work when you go about the business of attempting to evaluate your own success both in and out of recovery so listen up.
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This edition of The Way Out features a story unlike any other we’ve told before. Author, speaker, person in long term recovery and reformed serial bank robber Don Cummins shares his incredible journey to recovery with us with remarkably true humility and candor. For Don this is a story, ultimately, of coming home after spending what seems like more than a lifetime lost and unwell in mind, body, and spirit. Don’s story is poignant and striking evidence that we can and do recover from seemingly hopeless circumstances and indeed proof positive that no matter who we are and how severe our individual case of addiction and or alcoholism is, we don’t ever have to drink or use again – provided we are willing to do a little work. So strap yourselves in, Way Out Casters – you’re about to go on one awe inspiring, heartfelt, and wild ride with one heck of a happy ending courtesy of our new friend Don Cummins – so Listen Up.
More about Don & Contacts:
Insta: https://www.instagram.com/don_cummins
Website: https://don-cummins.com/about
About the book: https://theprisonwithinbook.com
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In this installment of The Way Out we’ve got author of the upcoming book, Alcohol Matrix and PHD holder Dustin Dunbar. Much is made of and discussed in recovery circles about the problems that lie within us and how those problems increase our susceptibility, severity, and recovery to alcoholism and addiction. There’s little doubt that adverse childhood experiences, trauma, mental health diagnoses, and arguably even genetics play a role in the chances an individual may become addicted to alcohol or any other substance at some point in their life. What perhaps doesn’t often get enough attention and discussion, is how addictive these substances, and in this case alcohol in particular, actually is. It seems we give alcohol a pass and think of it in a very different way than we do other addictive substances – often faulting the individual who’s become addicted for the problem – and none of it on a toxic substance that anyone can become physically dependent if they consume enough of it for long enough. Maybe because it’s legal, socially accepted, and habitually advertised, we come to think of it as wholly different than illicit drugs; but the real truth of the matter is, the nature of how an individual becomes physically dependent on heroin is precisely the same as how one becomes dependent on the drug that we call alcohol. Dustin, now living an alcohol free life, shares with us why he’s chosen to live alcohol free, what his research and studies have revealed about alcohol and the toxic and addictive nature of it, and how we can flip the script on the idea all too many of us have embedded in our deep subconscious minds – that alcohol in some fundamental way benefits us – and accept the reality that indeed it causes far more harm than good so Listen up.
The Alcohol Matrix Book (50% ALL Pre-Orders):
https://alcoholmatrix.com/
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This week I have a thought provoking and unbelievably instructive interview with Life Coach and fellow podcaster, Dennis Berry who is also in long term recovery from addiction and alcoholism. Dennis and I illuminate incredibly important topics that can transform your recovery and life. We talk about purpose in giving, the awesome power of meditation, quieting and calming that funky brain of ours, and truly nurturing our mind, bodies, and spirits with physical, mental, and spiritual actions and activities so that we can truly be living in the present and be living our true purpose so listen up.
Contact Dennis Berry!
www.DennisBerry.net
The Funky Brain Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-funky-brain-podcast/id1483992134
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This edition of The Way Out can be summed up by answering a very compelling question: What happens when you’re a life coach and you find yourself in the middle of your very own life crisis that reveals a critical obstacle that’s been preventing you from truly connecting with the people you’re trying to help? The answer my brothers and sisters is you go about the business of healing yourself first; which is precisely what our very special guest, Alyssa Rocco, went about the business of doing as soon as the true nature of her predicament was uncovered. As a life coach, often the presumption is this person has all the answers and furthermore has it all figured out. As we’ll learn however, this isn’t really how life coaching works. No, life coaching is at it’s core a process of allowing the individual on the receiving end of the coaching relationship to get honest about what they are truly seeking, and working with their coach to remove the barriers to achieving that end goal – whatever that might be. As it turns out, Alyssa had some obstacles of her own to address before she could truly be of maximum service to her newfound higher power and the people she interacted with in and out of her work. At it’s essence this is a story of self-honesty and humility put into action producing a profound transformation within Alyssa; who is brimming with spiritual and recovery wisdom as a result so listen up.
Contact Alyssa Rocco:
alyssa@handelgroup.com
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In this installment of The Way Out we have some serious addiction care and research brain power coming at you by way of Dr. Harshal Kirane, a Medical Doctor, Addiction Psychiatrist and the Medical Director of Wellbridge Addiction Treatment and Research. Dr. Kirane’s passion and sincere desire is to put in the work to bring the still suffering the best of what we presently know in addiction care, as well as continue advance pertinent research in order to improve care and produce better outcomes for a greater number of those afflicted with the disease of addiction. We dive into important and relevant subject matter in and around the diagnosis and treatment of addiction as well as the genetic and biological predispositions and manifestations of this disease that is still so deeply misunderstood and stigmatized by society at large. Indeed, we’ll learn about how our genetic makeup, childhood experiences, and yes, our very own brains affect our likelihood of becoming addicted and how that addiction manifests in our bodies and minds. Further, we discuss what kinds of therapies and methods can be combined to provide care that has the power to truly transform active addiction into meaningful recovery so Listen Up.
Links to the resources mentioned in this episode:
Wellbridge Treatment and Research:
https://wellbridge.org/
https://wellbridge.org/team/harshal-kirane/
SAMHSA Treatment Finder:
https://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/
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In this installment of the Way Out we bring you an enchanting interview with Entrepreneur, former CEO, and Author of “Chasing the High”, Michael G Dash. In long term recovery from both gambling and drug addictions, Michael takes us for a ride through his tumultuous foray into and out of addiction, which included an Adderall infused, six-year legal battle with a former business partner. Through the 12 Steps and a combination of the transformational power of EMDR and FLOW; Michael came out the other side a changed person; which he argues is NOT as difficult as we often want to make it out to be. Michael insists the idea that change is hard is a counterproductive and self-fulfilling prophecy whereby we convince ourselves that change is hard before we have begin to do the work of change; and meaningful change begins by doing something different, something positive one day at a time. That’s a concept I wholeheartedly embrace as the day at a time mindset is very much at the heart of 12 Step Recovery. Michael challenged me on the what I now view is the “Change is Hard” FALSE belief and we here at The Way Out Podcast officially challenge each and every one of you to flip the proverbial script in your own hearts and minds – dare to tell yourself that meaningful change isn’t the big bad boogey man we all too often make it out to be and follow it up with action. Start making your bed – today. Start a new physical activity – today. Here’s to change, and here’s to an illuminating and instructive conversation that, if we make our minds up to it, we all can learn a thing or two so Listen Up.
Books Mentioned on this Episode:
Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod:
https://miraclemorning.com/books/
Chasing the High by Michael G. Dash:
https://www.michaelgdash.com/book
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In this edition of The Way Out we’re back with a serious recovery power topic – The Dangers of Idolizing Others in Recovery. The working title of this episode was a skosh more sensational, but I digress. The desire to pedestalize others who seem to be working the perfect recovery program, or that appear to living the good life because of sobriety is quite natural. We hear phrases like stick with the winners, and to a large extent that’s sage advice. What becomes dangerous, is when we raise these recovery rock stars to demigod like status in our own minds – that’s when the balance has officially tipped precariously too far in the wrong direction. I got better, indeed, most of us got better by finding the people that had what we wanted and applying what worked for them to our own programs of recovery. Some of those things stuck and worked like spiritual and recovery magic while others fell by the wayside due to inefficacy or lack of relevance. When we enable others to be launched into recovery super stardom, or conversely attempt to be Recovery Icons ourselves, that’s the exact point in which we’ve crossed the God line. Right out of the gate when we finally surrendered to our addiction and/or alcoholism we admitted we were powerless. You and me. WE. Then WE went about the business of connecting to a power greater than US. That means I can’t be my own higher power and neither can you. When we idolize another, or quest to become idols ourselves, we’re putting our faith in someone who’s powerless over this disease, and that my friends is perhaps the greatest danger of all. That’s precisely why we’re going to dig deep into the how and why of it all as well as provide practical tools to ward against this pitfall of recovery. Plus we share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
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In this rendition of the The Way Out we have Tim Moon, a frequent listener of The Way Out Podcast who has been in long term recovery from alcoholism for over 2 years. Tim writes about his recovery and spiritually transformative experiences for the website contemplative light, as well as his own website, quantum recovery. Tim’s journey through alcoholism and into recovery is marked by two distinct spiritual experiences, one rooted in religion early in adulthood and another much later as part of his recovery from alcoholism which was firmly rooted in the 12 Steps. The contrast between these two experiences in relation to Tim’s relationship to The God of His Understanding, and the spiritual work involved in the later experience highlight a central truth – faith without works is dead. Both of Tim’s spiritual experiences were quite profound in their own right; the later was infused with transformative action centered in spiritual principles designed to straighten out the relationships held with God, Self, and others. You’ll find Tim’s experiences both relatable and illuminating, and indeed downright fascinating so Listen Up.
Quantum Recovery by Tim Moon:
https://sites.google.com/view/quantumrecovery/home?authuser=5
Tim Moon’s Essay on the Spiritually Transformative Experience and Recovery:
https://contemplativelight.org/three-mystical-lessons-i-learned-during-my-recovery-from-alcoholism/
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In this installment of The Way Out Jason’s got a spectacular interview with Author, and person in long term recovery and dual diagnosee, Marques Marchand. Growing up in the 80’s, Marques endured his share of family dysfunction and adversity and like so many of us found drugs and alcohol to be quite the suitable escape from not only the strife within the family, but also his bi-polar II disorder which he wouldn’t discover until well into sobriety. Sober at 22, Marques’ story is a welcome reminder that we don’t have to drink and use for decades to fully qualify as alcoholics or addicts. Indeed, as his recovery journey unfolds, we come to understand what sobriety without working a program of recovery can be like – and how profoundly we can change, grow and truly transform when we start applying fundamental spiritual principles and sound behavior change on a foundation of sobriety. Listening to Marques share his road to true recovery is like sitting with an old friend in Recovery share their story, complete with all the laughter, camaraderie, and heaps of spiritual and recovery truth at every turn so Listen Up.
Best piece of advice-
"Just be willing"
Direct quote-
"The Boogie Man is a coward. He lives in the closet for a reason."
Book Recommendations:
Can't hurt Me by David Goggins
https://www.amazon.com/Cant-Hurt-Me-David-Goggins-audiobook/dp/B07KKP62FW/ref=sr_1_2?crid=K1GKFHYVWGWB&dchild=1&keywords=cant+hurt+me+david+goggins&qid=1597537405&sprefix=Cant+hurt+%2Caps%2C228&sr=8-2
Song that symbolizes Marques' Recovery:
Protection by Massive Attack
Marques' Books:
Junk Knowledge: This is how I stayed sober
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1796316814/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_btf_awdo_U6goFbP1B1GHD
The Darkest Chapter: A Messy Guide to Dual Diagnosis
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1674926650/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_btf_awdo_A9goFbS45PXMK
Recovery Resource Recommendations:
dbsalliance.org
nami.org
Alcoholics Anonymous
Adult Children of Alcoholics
Marques strongly suggests Journaling or Writing
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In this edition of The Way Out Podcast the best Co-Host in the business has an exceptional discussion with writer and person in long term recovery Adam Fout. Adam’s journey to recovery, like many of ours, begins in fits and starts before it takes hold in a way that’s meaningful and enduring. Relapse is a part of many of our stories, and truly we can learn from them and use what we experienced when the next window of recovery opportunity presents itself. Adam’s window flew open with the undeniable help of the hand of God himself when his brother fell gravely ill and with the push he needed from those that loved him most. What Adam did with that opportunity is the stuff that universally makes recovery possible and indeed sustainable; and the genuine and authentic manner in which Adam relays his God inspired, hope filled, and wisdom bearing story is nothing short of compelling so Listen Up.
Website:
adamfout.com
Contact Info:
https://twitter.com/adamfout2
https://www.facebook.com/AdamFoutAuthor
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamfout/
https://www.instagram.com/adamfout/
https://www.reddit.com/user/AdamFout
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/60638744-adam-fout
awfout@gmail.com
Best piece of advice ever received -
"Do you really think God brought you this far just to drop you on your ass now?"
Book Recommendation -
Jesus' Son by Denis Johnson
https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Son-Stories-Denis-Johnson/dp/031242874X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3O9N9NOYA1CKG&dchild=1&keywords=jesus%27+son+by+denis+johnson&qid=1596858861&sprefix=jesus%27%2Caps%2C222&sr=8-2
Song that symbolizes Adam's recovery - Discipline by Nine Inch Nails
Favorite Pearl of Wisdom from the interview -
"The steps are just something to distract you while God heals you in the background."
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In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a story and a guest like none we’ve had before with motivational speaker, author, and trauma coach Essi Bagheri. From growing up in Iran and separated from his 11 year old mother before the age of 1 and subject to untold abuses, to child soldier, to refugee and what amounts to more than a lifetime’s battle with addiction and alcoholism, and finally coming out the other side to use his powerful and inspiring story to drive home a powerful message – Do Not Give Up Now. Essi’s story and amazing journey is a case study in a fundamental truth: so long as we’re still alive – there’s always hope. The circumstances of Essi’s experiences are at once extreme and poignant, yet the universality and commonality of what it means and feels like to battle addiction and alcoholism, and the common solution so many of us have found rings pure and true. No question way out casters, this story right here embodies the fundamental problem we all experience and the universal truth that provides our solution so Listen Up.
Book Mentioned on this episode:
Shattered Soul by Essi Bagheri: The True Story of a Child Soldier
http://www.donotgiveupnow.com/do-not-give-up-now-books/
Contact Essi:
Social Media Links:
https://www.facebook.com/essi.bagheri.9
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/essi-bagheri
https://twitter.com/essi_bagheri
https://www.instagram.com/essi.bagheri
Email: essi@donotgiveupnow.com
Website: www.donotgiveupnow.com
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In this installment of The Way Out cohost Jason has an outstanding interview with Katy Patton. Now, I stopped believing in coincidences somewhere inside of my first six months of Recovery, and I ain’t about to start now. The fact that we had a last minute cancellation, creating a gap in our weekly episode rhythm, combined with the fact that Jason was quite literally on a trip with Katy who’d already agreed to be on the show, and the house of their mutual friend they were staying in had a professional voice over studio? Well, color me convinced that The God of My Understanding wanted Katy’s story to be our 200th episode – a feat I wouldn’t have dreamt possible prior to my own recovery in 2014 round about 5 and half years ago. Katy’s story is one that in large measure is living on both ends of the spiritual spectrum, from a militant, and for a stretch sober atheist to a down and dirty struggle with addiction, in and out of treatment, to finally, a full and complete surrender to the God of her Understanding, in Jesus. Katy shares in a an ultra-relatable, humble, and downright inspiring fashion what was blocking her from true recovery; along with the essence of what ultimately brought about true change, and the enduring and fulfilling recovery that followed so Listen Up.
Resources:
Hope Recovery Manor
PARKERSBURG, WV 26101
3048939086
EMAIL: HOPERECOVERYMANOR@GMAIL.COM
Brandi's Legacy (women's faith based)
1417 Lancaster Street
Marietta, OH 45750
304-916-8468
New Hope Creation Center (men's faith based)
800 North Main Street
Malta, OH 43758
304-916-8468
Harmony Ridge Recovery Center
330-481-3727
Life Changers
865-456-2064
Book recommendations:
Bible
Big book
NA Basic Text
Song recommendations:
Worship Music
Boha Tribe
Best advice:
Keep coming back!
It works if you work it!
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In this edition of The Way Out we have a truly extraordinary interview with Scarlet Begonias, a full time traveling professional model and person in long term recovery from addiction. We’re truly honored to be the first to share the story of Scarlet’s journey to sobriety and wellness in no small part because of the passion and authenticity woven into her words as she speaks her truth so that it may encourage and inspire you in your own recovery journey. Beautiful inside and out, Scarlet’s unabashed sincerity, forthrightness, and willingness to be vulnerable with us proves in undeniable fashion that comparing our insides with other folks outsides in equal parts self-injurious and counterproductive. Stay tuned way out casters – Scarlet’s about to take us from a broken, down and out restaurant worker to a woman in long term sobriety quite literally living her dream – with one down right wicked bout with addiction smack in the middle of it all – and most importantly real recovery wisdom combined with an impassioned message of hope that will without question resonate – so listen up.
To Write Love On Her Arms:
https://twloha.com/
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In this edition of the way out we’ve got a truly wonderful and insightful interview with Kelli Martin, a dear friend of mine whom I had the pleasure of meeting inside the rooms of one of my favorite 12-Step fellowships. There is an old saying in the rooms of recovery to describe someone who has allowed their sobriety and recovery to permeate their entire being, mind body and soul. It goes like so “You know, that so and so wears their sobriety like a loose fitting garment” – and that’s exactly the feeling I get every time Kelli and I get the opportunity to talk Recovery. Kelli’s journey to recovery was not easy, perfect, or always pretty – she had to persevere through some incredibly difficult stuff as a child. She had to shed old ideas about God and life that were not serving her. She had to come back to the rooms after a wicked relapse and be intentional about reconnecting to a higher power and getting involved in the 12-Step program and fellowship. She had to find peace with the fact that her two adult children still, after nearly a decade of sobriety, will not have anything to do with her. Kelli’s story proves to us that we can have meaningful, enduring, and satisfying lives in recovery that are not perfect fairy tale endings. You’re in for a real treat way out casters – Kelli is the real deal and her story delivers an undeniably rich combination of spiritual truth, relatable experiences, and practical wisdom we can all apply to our own recovery tool kits, so Listen Up.
The Other Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity
To stop beating myself up for not doing things perfectly,
The courage to forgive myself because I’m working on doing better,
And the wisdom to know that You already love me just the way I am.
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In this edition of The Way Out I’m honored to bring you a terrific interview with a loyal listener and now aspiring recovery podcaster Ray C. Ray’s story is loaded with adversity as he quite literally takes us from being homeless and getting high behind a parking lot trash dumpster all the way to nearly two decades of sobriety with a loving wife and family and even running a company. Above all this is a story that proves to us once again, that no matter how far down the scale we’ve gone, our experience can indeed benefit others. I sincerely believe there’s magic in Ray’s story that will provide hope and change for many here on this podcast and in his own podcasting adventures. There’s true spiritual power in all of our stories, because we see ourselves in them. Because they give us real hope. Hope that we too can recovery. Proof that we too can change, if we’re willing. To that end, and without further ado I give you Mr. Ray Corona the 3rd – so Listen Up.
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This week our favorite recovery pod co-host Jason’s got an enlightening and relatable interview with David O’Meara, who’s authored 2 books which share is personal accounts of his struggles with and recovery from addiction and alcoholism, as well as schizophrenia and depression. David’s shares his story of what it was like to wrestle with both addiction and mental illness openly, honestly, and unapologetically in print and here for us for one simple but powerful purpose – to help those who are still suffering like he once did – and that is a shared mission here at The Way Out Podcast. Undoubtedly, you’ll find yourself relating and identifying with the more poignant pieces of David’s story, and surely you’ll delight in the unmistakable and undeniable message of hope that’s embodied herein so Listen Up.
David’s books:
The Book of David: God, Life and Recovery
https://www.amazon.com/Book-David-God-Life-Recovery/dp/1718067992/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=The+book+of+David+God%2Clife+and+recovery&qid=1592962618&s=books&sr=1-2
The Book of David: Path to Recovery
https://www.amazon.com/Book-David-Path-Recovery/dp/B084DGMGYD/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
David's best piece of advice:
"Don't give up and keep coming back!"
David's book recommendation:
The Holy Bible
If you would like to reach out and contact David you can email him at
deftones1177@live.com
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The Way Out Podcast is on right now. Along with our beloved cohost Jason, I’m Charlie and this edition of The Way Out we’re talking exactly how we can shed the shame that often accompanies alcoholism and addiction and shed it for keeps. Shame and guilt are frequently used interchangeably but they are two distinctly different feelings. I feel guilty if I take something that’s not mine without permission. I feel ashamed because I can’t stop stealing even though I know it’s wrong. Shame is a feeling of unworthiness. It’s a feeling of plain not being good enough. If you really knew who I was and the things I’ve done you wouldn’t want to have anything to do with me. Shame becomes a part of our identity. There’s two likely culprits of this often debilitating and negative cycle perpetuating beast called shame. We’re either ashamed of how we’ve treated people, including ourselves or we’re ashamed of becoming addicts or alcoholics. No doubt we likely are suffering from one or both of them as we enter into recovery. Buckle up Way Out faithful, We’re going to show you precisely how we were able to shed that shame monster for good, plus we’ll share feedback from the Sober and Serious Community and take your calls so Listen Up.
Shame Acronym:
Shame: Should Have Already Mastered Everything
Smart Recovery Meeting Facilitated by Alan:
Don't let COVID-19 keep you from getting your Recovery Tonight! At SMART Recovery, we have online ZOOM meetings "going on" for you. I will be facilitating an online meeting every Sunday night at 10 pm ET under the username SleeplessInSeattle. It is free to attend, confidential, active participation is optional and e-mailed meeting verifications are available. SMART Recovery is for all addictive behaviors. Our meetings last 90 minutes and we average about 175 attendees per meeting.
Here is our meeting format: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ce6q7v8cbgjgmsq/Sunday%20Night%2010%20PM%20ET%20Meeting%20-%20Format.pdf?dl=0
To Join Tonight's 10 pm ET Meeting If You Do Not Have Your Free, Confidential SMART Recovery Online Account:
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Go to http://smartrecovery.org
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Click on "Online Community"
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Click on "Register for SROL" and complete your free, confidential online registration.
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Click on "SMART ONLINE MEETINGS" and then "Meeting Schedule & Event Calendar".
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Click on the Link Entitled: Sunday @ 10:00 PM to 11:30 PM ET - Facilitated by SleeplessInSeattle - VERIFICATIONS PROVIDED
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The Way Out Podcast is on right now. Along with the cohost with the mostess, Jason I’m Charlie and we’ve got a stellar rendition of The Way Out on a topic not oft discussed in and out of recovery. Many of us are quite familiar with the Recovery mantra “Do the next right thing” when faced with uncertainty in how to act in a given moment or situation, and for good reason – this saying embodies the idea that we need to act our way into right thinking, rather than think our way into right living. We have new spiritual principles that we’re now aiming toward, principles that are rooted in love and guided by a power greater than ourselves. What happens wayoutcasters, when it’s hard to do the next right thing? How do we move through decisions and situations where doing the right thing is also seemingly the most difficult thing? It’s times like these where the ol’ platitudes of Just Do It and Don’t think Just Do, frankly fall short and rather flat. While these suggestions might be well intended, they’re not all that practical or helpful when we’re faced with a daunting decision that has us deeply conflicted. We’re going to fill in the gaps for you on what and how to do, when it’s hard to do, the next right thing. Plus we’ll share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
Smart Recovery Meeting Facilitated by Alan:
Don't let COVID-19 keep you from getting your Recovery Tonight! At SMART Recovery, we have online ZOOM meetings "going on" for you. I will be facilitating an online meeting every Sunday night at 10 pm ET under the username SleeplessInSeattle. It is free to attend, confidential, active participation is optional and e-mailed meeting verifications are available. SMART Recovery is for all addictive behaviors. Our meetings last 90 minutes and we average about 175 attendees per meeting.
Here is our meeting format: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ce6q7v8cbgjgmsq/Sunday%20Night%2010%20PM%20ET%20Meeting%20-%20Format.pdf?dl=0
To Join Tonight's 10 pm ET Meeting If You Do Not Have Your Free, Confidential SMART Recovery Online Account:
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Go to http://smartrecovery.org
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Click on "Online Community"
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Click on "Register for SROL" and complete your free, confidential online registration.
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Click on "SMART ONLINE MEETINGS" and then "Meeting Schedule & Event Calendar".
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Click on the Link Entitled: Sunday @ 10:00 PM to 11:30 PM ET - Facilitated by SleeplessInSeattle - VERIFICATIONS PROVIDED
Want to find out more about Smart Recovery? Watch Our Introduction Video: https://youtu.be/0VYvXzSEdLE
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I’m super stoked to bring you this bonus mini episode with Buddy C who shares with us his new project – Sober Meditations. Inspired by his work with his own sponsees and centered on the 12-Steps, Spirituality and the healing and transformative power of the practice of mediation, Sober Meditations is available through an app on both Google Play and the Apple App Store as well as online via any current web browser. I’ve been on my own meditative journey for exactly 120 days and mediation is now very much a core spiritual and recovery practice. If you’re looking to start your own foray into mediation, I highly recommend you look to Sober Meditations. Buddy shares his own insight and experience with meditation, walks us through installing and navigating the app, and gives some helpful advice for meditation beginners and pros alike so Listen Up.
Get Your Sober Meditations!
On the Web:
https://sobermeditations.libsyn.com/
Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sobermeditationsapp.android.sober&hl=en_US
(Also Available on Apple IOS)
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We’ve got a brilliantly informative and enlightening rendition of the show for you all about excuses, recovery, and how to turn these counterproductive defense mechanisms into positive change in progress. Rooted in fear and purpose built to prevent meaningful and rewarding transformation, excuses are quite complicit in the perpetuation of active addiction and alcoholism as well as lack of progress or regression in Recovery and spirituality. Excuses, justification, and rationalization are intrinsically tied together and born out of fear. Perhaps it’s fear of change, or failure, or of losing something we desperately believe we need to survive, such as our substance of choice. Alas, we don’t have to live in a world of excuses, justifications and rationalizations that keep us stuck, sick, and perhaps back in our disease. What we must do, is feel the fear and do the next right thing anyway. Because on the other side of fear wayoutcasters – is freedom. We’ll demystify the how and why of excuse making and share how we, and you too turn excuses into positive change in progress. Plus we’ll share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen up.
Book referenced in this episode:
http://www.susanjeffers.com/home/detailtemplate.cfm?catID=2234
Pain to Power Vocabulary:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f6y4kIaXky2ZDUhiq2N0cuNFmX82mKWI/view?usp=sharing
Step 1 Worksheet:
https://12step.org/docs/Step1_WS.pdf
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I wanted to take a brief moment, off the top to acknowledge and address what’s happening in my hometown in this moment. Born in Minneapolis, raised in the Twin Cities, and a life-long Minnesotan, I am, nay we all are still very much grappling with the heinous and horrendous tragedy that is the killing of George Floyd this past Monday, May 25th. I’m at once experiencing feelings of deep sadness and incredible helplessness after watching the now infamous footage of this horrific event and left desperately searching for a way to help make this right as I watch the city in which was born be burned to the ground and the very fabric of our community be torn apart. Many of you are now experiencing much the same in your own communities this very moment. Only through sobriety and recovery can I turn to the only answer that makes any real sense at all. I must turn to love, compassion, and put them into action. To that end our family will be donating food and supplies to my beloved South Minneapolis this very afternoon. This is a show about Sobriety, and Recovery and yet at our core what we attempt to embody is how to live in harmony with ourselves and others, how to act more out of kindness, tolerance, humility and ultimately love and less out of fear, animosity, and hate. The true purpose, desire, and mission of this show is to give you, the listener, of all ages, races, identities of gender hope that you too can recover and indeed the tools that work for you to truly thrive in the time we have on this earth. To that end, in this week’s edition of the show we have a supremely informative, beneficial, timely and apropos discussion on the use of somatic experiencing to address the often chronic states of stress, anxiety, and the near constant mental ruminations that always seem to accompany these unwanted states of mind and body agitation. Many of us are trauma survivors and have endured adverse childhood experiences that contribute to feelings of stress and anxiety. These undesirable states may be even more prevalent and exacerbated due to the current pandemic and community strife we are all experiencing. Dr. Alice Kerby, a Doctor of Physical Therapy, a trauma practitioner, and a person in long term recovery shares how Somatic Experiencing can and does heal us from bottom up through incredibly simple and effective tools rooted in tuning in to the sensations of our bodies. These practices, when done regularly under professional guidance can profoundly change the way we feel in our own bodies AND minds, reduce, and eliminate chronic and acute stress and anxiety and ultimately improve our overall well-being, so Listen Up.
Somatic Experiencing Practices Mentioned in this Episode:
· Interoception
· Pendulation
· Orienting
· Extended Exhale
· Qigong
· 5 Senses Practice
· Self-Body Check-in
Sober & Calm Course (5 & 30 Day Courses)
http://www.kerbymethodconsulting.com/sober--calm.html#/
Book Mentioned in this Episode:
Laura McKowen We Are the Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life
https://www.lauramckowen.com/books
Contact Dr. Alice Kerby:
https://www.facebook.com/alice.kerby.7
https://www.instagram.com/dralicekerby/
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This week co-host extraordinaire Jason’s got a killer interview with Heidi Davis, a woman in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction and very passionate about what brought her to and keeps her in long term recovery. I happened to read one of her social media posts that read like an intro to a recovery memoir and immediately said to your favorite recovery co-host “get her on the show”. I can’t tell you exactly why I was immediately compelled to get Heidi on to share her story, but I’ve learned after a few 24 hours in recovery to trust my instincts when they speak to me, and this time my instincts were demanding for Heidi to share her experience, strength, and hope. I do not claim to be a Christian, nor do I believe that Christianity, or any other religion is the only way to recover or the only path to freedom from Addiction and Alcoholism. What I do sincerely and whole heatedly believe however, is that it is indeed, if you will indulge me a play on words A Bonafede Way Out of addiction and/or alcoholism. A the old 12-Step mantra goes – take what you like and leave the rest. I urge you to listen to the similarities in Heidi’s story – heavens knows I found more than a few myself, and indeed listen for the commonality in Heidi’s struggle through a ravenous, unrelenting and certainly progressive bout of alcoholism and addiction and look for the universal key to recovery regardless of method – complete surrender. You’ll be nodding your head and laughing along as you relate to Heidi unfurling her story in only the way she can, so Listen Up.
You can find Heidi Davis on Facebook and you can contact her on FB messenger LADIES ONLY PLEASE
Book Recommendation: The Bible
If you don't know where to start Heidi recommends the gospel of John. Because John is the gospel of LOVE and you need to first understand how much God loves YOU!
Heidi's best advice:
Battle Plan
1) Have at least one believer in your tribe who has battled the demon of addiction.
2) Be brutally honest with them. Share your struggles, pain, fear, concerns, and victories!
3) Get life verses. Find scripture that reminds you of who God says that you are and who He says that He is. PUT THEM EVERYWHERE. Jeremiah 29:11 is a great one!
4) Check in daily.
5) Pray daily.
6) Get in the word everyday. Read even when it doesn’t make sense. NO WORD RETURNS VOID.
7) Find a church and go. Even when you don’t want to. Those are usually the days God has a message for you.
8) Don't suffer in silence. Some days are going to be HARD. Put on praise and worship and SING YOUR WAY OUT!
9) Be still and know that He is God. You don’t have to have it all figured out. Know He does.
10) Show yourself grace and don't strive to be a SUPER CHRISTIAN. Let the Holy Spirit do the heavy lifting.
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In this edition of The Way Out we turn our collective attention to a the very human need of connection and as we’ll discover, it has particular importance to those of us in Recovery from substances or other addictive behaviors. Recent and mounting evidence suggests one of the factors in determining whether or not an individual will develop an addiction is their ability or inability to establish and maintain healthy, meaningful connections to others, to the world around them, and to something greater than themselves. In a very real way, the opposite of addiction is not sobriety, it is indeed connection. Abstinence, however is a prerequisite for those of us who are addicts, alcoholics, or both for the artificially induced dopamine high courtesy of something decidedly non-human blocks our ability to connect in a meaningful, authentic way to the very people we so desperately want to connect with, whether we are aware of it or able to admit it or not. It’s no coincidence then, many of us who are in the midst of, or in recovery from addiction long have had trouble creating and sustaining the vital connections that are fundamental for all humans to truly thrive. This difficulty in connecting, often but not always rooted in childhood trauma and adverse childhood experiences is very much part of what we are healing when we begin our recovery journeys. Establishing meaningful, healthy, caring, and supportive relationships with good people in and out of recovery is essential for a sobriety that is truly satisfying, for a life that’s worth living. When we incorporate powerful and transformative connections to a power greater than ourselves we are able to supercharge our connectedness to others, as well as embrace the healing power embodied in the flora and fauna found in nature. We come to realize we all are inexorably connected to each other, to a power greater than all of us, and to nature – in fact we are one. We’ll dig deep into the how and why of it all; share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so listen up.
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Connection is the opposite of addiction Ted Talk:
https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_you_know_about_addiction_is_wrong?language=en
Relationship Quality Litmus Test:
https://www.shapeyourhappiness.com/the-importance-of-social-connection-and-why-you-need-it-in-your-life/
Additional Resources on Connection & Recovery:
Brene Brown Podcast on Loneliness & Connection
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3lT7o2zflFaDeD8An9zhri?si=LyutCy1NTHau50xg1Q-iMw
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This edition of The Way Out is all about change. At the center of the recovery journey is a transformational change that occurs within us that allows us to shed old, negative and self-defeating thoughts, beliefs, ideas, and most importantly behaviors and begin to replace them with those that are healthy, positive and aligned with who we yearn to be. A truth my dear, late member of my home 12-Step group was fond of goes “If you don’t change, your sobriety date will”. If we are to recover, instead of merely abstain, we must change. In the beginning we may change because we’re sick and tired of being sick and tired, or because the pain of staying the same become greater than the fear of change; or because if we don’t – we’ll die. Even in the most dire of circumstances; change is hard. It’s Messy – and it feels wrong. It’s supposed to feel foreign, like you’re wearing somebody else’s clothes or living someone else’s life – which in a way is true you’re living in the new you and it’s going to take a good while before that feels natural and integrated into the person you will become. We begin to learn, as we undergo our individual transformations; that the uncomfortable process of positive change is well worth the effort. In a very real sense can become change artists and begin to change things before we are in crisis; before the weight of some impending doom is upon us. We can choose positive and healthy change – in other words - we can chose to keep growing and thereby progressing in physical, spiritual, and emotional wellness journeys. To that end we’ve got an episode that’s jam packed with everything you need to know about change – that is; how to move through the ever so common fear of change; how to cope with changes that are beyond our control, and precisely how we can create meaningful, healthy changes in our own lives that are as positive as they are enduring, plus share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
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This week we’ve got an absolutely delightful interview with the Author of the new book “The March to Madness”, Nelson Dacier. Nelson, now six years sober, shares his story; which was the inspiration for his book, with equal measures of humor, wisdom, and authenticity. We dig into his recovery journey, what it finally took to enter meaningful and long-term recovery, and his process in writing the tale of the debaucherous double life he led during active addiction, the unbelievable events that lead him to the literal brink of death, and what recovery looked like in the aftermath of the tumultuous saga that was his life prior to getting sober round about six years ago. This one’s got it all folks, so Listen Up.
Reach out to Nelson:
https://nelsondacier.com/
Book Recommendation:
Drop the Rock
https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/fred-h/drop-the-rock-meaning
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This week Jason’s got an absolutely terrific interview with transformational and Imago Relationship Therapist, Love Coach, and Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Rachel Levy. Rachel shares with us about her journey, her practice, and her creation; the 12 steps of Healthy Love. We learn about the 4 pillars of her recovery program that is designed to be accessible to all. Rachel shares her truth with us as well as an abundance of spiritual, emotional, and transformational wisdom, which is all centered in love. Get ready way out casters – Rachel is a total powerhouse - a modern-day sage who’s got insight and spiritual truth to spare and we’re about to dive headfirst into the deep well of a Bonafede love guru – so listen up.
Rachel's song recommendations-
Everything is Allanis Morissette's song defining what the Shadow is according to Debbie Ford’s definition: our shadow is all of the qualities within us both Our Light and Our Dark. Embracing our Shadow, every part of it, was inspired through Ford's shadow process. Allanis went through the coaching program and was a student of Debbie’s.
https://youtu.be/Mv82NA1ZYyo
This Grudge is a song of the long and pain filled journey of Forgiveness and needing to let go of the Grudges we hold onto to honor that those
who wounded us were also there as fodder for our ultimate growth and who we are meant to become.
Only if we do this sacred work of walking the conscious path seeking to heal and become whole. Allanis has done this work ...
Hence the line in her song This Grudge: “You’ve been vilified and used as fodder, you deserve a piece of every record"
https://youtu.be/RXU9xCHxOfs
Recovery wisdom: "A miracle is a shift in perception, to see now what we couldn't see." ~A Course In Miracles
Book Recommendations-
The Best Year of Your Life- Debbie Ford
The Dark Side of The Light Chasers- Debbie Ford
The Artists Way- Julia Cameron
Getting the Love You Want- Harville Hendrix
~~HEALTHY LOVE MEETING~~
The Healthy Love Meeting is every Thursday night at 9 p.m. Eastern time on intherooms.com
Contact Rachel at:
THE REGAL 550 11TH STREET
SOUTH BEACH, FL 33139
Lovecoachrachel@mac.com
www.rachellevylove.com
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This week we’ve got an interview that will push the limits on your conventional understanding of what it means when we hear the 12-Step vernacular around practicing the principles of recovery in all our affairs. Entrepreneur, writer, and public speaker Michael Brody-Waite contends far too many of us in recovery are likely, and unwittingly compartmentalizing the tremendous power, embodied in the 12-Steps, exclusively to our addictions all the while shielding the other parts of our lives that could be similarly transformed – if we only applied the very same principles of Recovery to other parts of our lives – namely our work lives. Michael and I discuss specifically what elements of Recovery can transform your work life and how to apply them and his new book – “Great Leaders Live Like Drug Addicts: How living like a drug addict will transform the way you lead yourself and others” all the while sprinkling in his recovery journey and the spiritual wisdom embodied within his 17 plus years of continuous Sobriety so listen up.
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Michael Brody-Waite:
https://greatleaderbook.com/
https://www.michaelbrodywaite.com/
https://www.ted.com/talks/michael_brody_waite_great_leaders_do_what_drug_addicts_do?language=en
Books:
Brene Brown:
The Gifts of Imperfection
Daring Greatly
https://brenebrown.com/books-audio/
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This week we’re addressing a topic that very likely affects many of us as we enter into recovery, and especially the longer we sustain our recovery. But before I introduce this week’s topic; I’d like to humbly invite anyone who’d like to hear my recovery story to join a weekly online Zoom speaker meeting at 8pm Central Time this Saturday the 18th of April. A dear friend of mine, Buddy C. asked if I would share my recovery story – and I was told under no uncertain terms very early in Recovery that when asked to be of service; we are obliged to do so given we have the ability. Check the show notes for the details on how to attend and I hope to see you all there! Now, back to this week’s topic. We’re talking about experiencing Survivor’s Guilt after someone close to us relapses or tragically dies as a result or consequence of their addiction and/or alcoholism. Greif is a complex, difficult, and often messy process that can be complicated by the emotions associated with Survivor’s Guilt. We may be plagued by questions like why me? Questions that stem from an unhealed part of ourselves desperately screaming to be mended. These emotions can often leave us feeling stuck; and be a counterproductive force in our recover journey. If you’re one of the many who’s struggled with the agony of Survivor’s Guilt, then this episode is for you. We’ll find out what Survivor’s guilt is, how it befalls us, and what precisely we can do about it to heal in order to overcome this unpleasant and unwelcome emotional distress so that we can really be there for those who are still with us, so Listen Up.
Saturday Night AA Speaker Meeting:
Open online AA Meeting every evening at 9 PM Eastern
Topic Meeting Nightly with a different AA Speaker every Saturday Night
www.ZoomAAMeetings.com (https://us04web.zoom.us/j/432316244)
Please log in early to install Zoom software
Access from any phone, PC, or iPad
Meeting ID is 432316244
Go to www.ZoomAAMeetings.com (url goes directly to zoom link) to
install software and access meeting. Will continue based on attendance.
Text and share ZoomAAMeetings.com with all your friends in recovery that may need a meeting!
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This week Jason’s got an interview that all you ladies out there will especially relate to with Ashlee Herget. Don’t tune out just yet though gents; I related to Ashlee’s story in a way I didn’t expect and though I know I shouldn’t be surprised by now; the universal struggles that unite our collective experience as people in, or contemplating recovery show up early and often in Ashlee’s story. Just shy of 3 years clean and sober, Ashlee brings her story to us in a disarmingly frank and vulnerable retelling of her journey to recovery rife with fits of inadequacy; shame, family turmoil and knock down drag out bouts of addiction and alcoholism – all from the female perspective. So to all you ladies out there bringn’ your sober on the daily, this one’s for you and for every single one of us there’s a whole lot recovery wisdom and insight about to be heard regardless of what gender you happen to identify with so Listen Up.
Book recommendations:
Jesus Calling- by Sarah Young
https://www.jesuscalling.com/books/jesus-calling/
The Body Keeps the Score- by Bessel van de Kolk
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/313183/the-body-keeps-the-score-by-bessel-van-der-kolk-md/
Best advice:
"You hit the bottom when you stop digging"
"Nothing is too damaged that recovery can't fix"
Contact info
Ashlee.herget@minnesotarecovery.org
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We’re bringing you a special episode dedicated to helping you work your program of recovery and survive – nay – thrive in this unprecedented time of Pandemic Covid-19 sane and sober. For many of us we’re dealing with new fears we likely hadn’t even dreamt of just a couple of months ago, and major life changes are being thrust upon us in the form of our daily routines, work lives and home situations. Two mega triggers for recovering addicts and alcoholics – Fear and Change are flaring up for many of us big time right now. We may be feeling off kilter; and reeling from all of these sudden but necessary adjustments and we’re here to help. Working toward being spiritually, mentally and emotionally centered as well as physically healthy is the name of the game and we’ve got just what the Doctor ordered for you as we demystify why so many of us are feeling the way we are right now and give you sound, tried and true spiritually practical actions you can take, one day at a time, to get through the Coronavirus Winter feeling right as rain, so Listen Up.
Online Meeting Resources:
unityrecovery.zoom.us/my/allrecovery
www.zoomaameetings.com
9:00 pm Eastern Daily
https://zoom.us/j/943741005?pwd=M2xDeVdqaTJ6am9KNFhZU253aW52UT09
Meeting ID: 943 741 005
Password: fob
5:30 PM Eastern Daily
www.dailyrecoverymeeting.com
12:00 1pm Eastern
Smart Recovery Online Meeting
https://smartrecovery.zoom.us/j/542297332
10pm Eastern
In the Rooms:
www.intherooms.com
AA:
http://aa-intergroup.org/directory.php
NA:
https://www.na.org/meetingsearch/text-results.php?country=Web&state&city&zip&street&within=5&day=0⟨&orderby=distance
Check your the websites of your local Alano or Intergroup for online meeting links and information
Facebook group mentioned in this episode:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/137365580455992/
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This week we’ve got an absolutely righteous interview with Singer, songwriter, producer, writer, and all-around dynamo Lisa Daggs. Along with her many and varied artistic talents, Lisa is a person in very long-term recovery, with over 30 years of continuous sobriety. Lisa’s journey to and through Recovery as told through her Book No Turning Back – Regardless is especially relatable and oozing with universal spiritual truth. We talk about the book, her path through addiction and alcoholism while trying to make it in the cut throat, take no prisoners, chew you up and spit you out music industry and what it took to Recover and live life on life’s terms as a sober Christian woman. So lend us your ears won’t you while Lisa spins yarns about days gone by and what life is like now living Sober, Joyous, and Free while we mix in a few handpicked originals by none other than Lisa Daggs. No doubt about it way out casters, you’re in for a special treat – so Listen Up.
Original Tracks by Lisa Daggs Featured on this Episode (in order of appearance):
Regardless
I'm Still Dancin'
Some Kind of Wonderful
Links Mentioned in this Episode:
https://www.lisadaggs.net/
https://www.bandsintown.com/a/1006008-lisa-daggs?came_from=257
Book Featured in this Episode:
No Turning Back, Regardless
https://www.lisadaggs.net/no-turning-back-regardless-book/
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This week Jason brings us the straight up compelling story of Kristin Massman. Kristin’s recovery story will grab you by throat and not let go until right up to the end. Kristin, an unabashed bi-sexual woman, now over 3 years sober, shares her at times heart wrenching and other times super relatable history in a truly authentic and vulnerable way. You will be captivated by the way her journey has led her from the proverbial gutter to self-discovery, self-acceptance, and her powerful ability to advocate for the development of a more inclusive culture in recovery and the community at large. One where everyone is welcomed, loved and accepted as they are. For all of us who know what it’s like to feel shame around who we truly are, and for all of us who have genuinely known the fear living our authentic selves, who know what it feels like to feel like an imposter in your own life, indeed for all of us who know all too well what it’s like to wrestle with addiction and alcoholism, this story is for you so Listen Up.
These are the nonprofits that Kristin works with:
http://www.bisexualorganizingproject.org/
http://www.outandsoberminnesota.org/
Recommendations:
· To work ANY 12 Step program
· Therapy (EMDR, Behavioral)
· Parenting classes
· Writing
· Speaking (tell your story)
· Fun sober activities
· Exercise
· Assume best intent!! (when communicating with others)
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This week we’ll hear co-host extraordinaire Jason interview our good friend Peter S, who candidly shares his Recovery story. Peter’s called in to the show a time or three and brings unbridled honesty and spiritual truth every time. Ultimately his is a story of love, loss and redemption, Peter’s remarkably poignant story is rife with pain and anguish as a once promising career in the Wine industry complete with six figures, a beautiful fiancé and all the trappings was ultimately swallowed up by alcoholism and addiction, leaving him literally jobless, penniless, homeless, and alone. We all know better than to think that’s where Peter’s story ends, don’t we? Fact is, in more than a few ways it is truly where his Recovery story begins. I’m telling you all, this story is candid, raw, and seriously compelling and the wisdom and spiritual truth embodied herein is truly palpable, so Listen Up.
Book: Varieties of Religious Experiences-William James
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/621/621-pdf.pdf
Recovery Resources:
Opportunities for Change program by the MN Dept. of Corrections
https://oforc.org/
Minnesota Recovery Connection
www.minnesotarecovery.org
Recovree
https://www.recovree.com/
Minnesota Recovery corps
www.minnesotarecoverycorps.org
2218 Alano Club
www.2218alano.org
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This week we’ve got an outrageously entertaining and wide ranging interview with none other than Neil the Alcoholic. We full on embraced the tangential nature of my guest, in full realization that any attempt to confine him would only serve to douse his innate ability to tell one hell of a story, of which this episode is chalked full. Neil’s been sober a whole long time, and he’s a walking encyclopedia of historical knowledge of maybe everything ever. We travel near and far geographically and otherwise in what is without question one of the most unique and personally amusing interviews I have done to date, and you won’t want to miss a second so Listen Up.
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This week Jason’s got an incredibly relatable, entertaining and enlightening interview with our good friend, Boston Mike. Mike’s been sober since 2012 and is a tremendous advocate 12 Step Recovery – and for good reason – it’s given him more than he could have imagined. Mike spent some time here in the Twin Cities Recovery community; and we became fast friends as kindred spirits are apt to do. We had him in studio over a year ago and due to an unfortunate technical snafu that interview never left the 4 walls of the Way Out Podcast studios. Mike shares his recovery journey with us, how he’s helping others, and what life is like as a working actor and musician in the greater Boston area. This interview is no mere redo, my friends, no it’s a bonafide original much like our Friend, Boston Mike so Listen Up.
-Contact info if anyone wants to reach out to Mike
michaelstephenswanson@gmail.com
-Book Recommendations:
The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous
Men's guide to recovery
Little Red Book
-Best piece of advice: Get connected to your local recovery community
-if anyone wants to check out some of his work
Current projects:
-Code 13: Unbreakable (miniseries)
-RealiTV (short film)
-I Care Alot (short film)
-Defending Jacob (AppleTV series)
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This week I’m grateful and humbled to bring you the remarkable and unique Recovery story of Alan S. I was immediately drawn to Alan as he works both the 12-Steps and the program of SMART Recovery, which complement each other quite nicely. Alan’s story is a case in point in why we continue to bring you personal stories of recovery from alcoholism and addiction. This journey to and through alcoholism isn’t one marked by early childhood trauma, adverse childhood experiences, or early abuse of drugs and alcohol. Alan was the quintessential nerd way before it became a cool nerd culture thing right through college, earning high marks and staying far away from any kind of trouble. But as you’ll soon learn, there’s many paths to alcoholism and addiction, and more than one Way Out so Listen Up.
Links related to Alan’s Story:
https://www.facebook.com/livingthedream99/posts/10218215348837768
https://youtu.be/IIibDRfxVPE
https://youtu.be/4QEH2h_D85M
https://youtu.be/up4jEoBnrgQ
https://youtu.be/i3kaIJC_-TY
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This week we’ve got an interview for the ages with Darren Littlejohn, the author of the 12-Step Buddhist. Darren takes us on an often wild, sometimes humorous, and incredibly enlightening ride as he waxes poetic on 12-Step Recovery, the value of integrating Buddhist practices into our recoveries, all the while sprinkling in his 20+ years of experience, strength, and hope earned along the way of his Recovery journey. Darren conjures up absolute magic when we gave him the opportunity to stream his spiritual consciousness with us. We found spiritual truth galore and a whole heck of a lot more as we explored the miraculous mind of the 12-Step Buddhist so Listen Up.
ACE Score Test:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean
Spiritual Practice Recommendations:
5 Minutes of Meditation in AM
Write down experiences around it for 30 Days
Put your hand on your heart and:
Look at the other person and say "me too" because we all suffer
Tell yourself what you want to hear most
Watch your breath
Books reccomended in this Podcast
The body keeps the score
https://www.strandbooks.com/psychology/the-body-keeps-the-score-brain-mind-and-body-in-the-healing-of-trauma
A New Pair of Glasses
https://www.recoveryshop.com/New-Pair-of-Glasses-p/bk21.htm
The 12-Step Buddhist:
https://www.amazon.com/12-Step-Buddhist-10th-Anniversary/dp/1582707146/ref=asc_df_1582707146/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385709421794&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15589324978317646241&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019477&hvtargid=aud-829758849484:pla-841219122206&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=77500929094&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385709421794&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15589324978317646241&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019477&hvtargid=aud-829758849484:pla-841219122206
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This week we’ve got a special episode as a part of our commitment to exploring and illuminating alternative pathways to sobriety and Recovery. Dennis Rosenfeld is the facilitator in chief of SMART Recovery’s online meeting program, and he joins us to help introduce us to SMART Recovery, often referenced as one of the most popular alternatives to the 12-Step Method that is so near and dear to my heart. We explore what SMART Recovery is, and perhaps more importantly, what SMART Recovery isn’t. We’ll also explore some of the tools of this program, tackle common questions folks new to this program might have, as well as how to begin working SMART Recovery and how to attend meetings. We cover a lot of ground with Dennis, and yet only just scratched the surface so be sure to check the show notes for a slew of links to help you get SMART. No doubt the best part of all is how throughout the interview Dennis shares how he was reborn SMART & Sober, so Listen Up.
SMART Links:
https://www.smartrecovery.org/
Meeting Finder:
https://www.smartrecoverytest.org/local/
SMART Tools not mentioned in the episode:
Meetings also available for Eating Disorders, Sexual Maladaptive Behaviors, SMART Intro Meetings, Tool Time Meetings, and an ultra-confidential meeting for Medical and Mental Health Providers.
Book Mentioned in this episode:
Sober for Good
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-395-91201-0
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This week we’re setting the record straight on an often misunderstood concept in Recovery: the differences between Self Care & Love versus Selfishness and self-centeredness. These concepts may sound similar, but as we’ll learn and unpack in this episode, they are in fact quite the opposite of each other in important ways. We’ll learn what Self Love & Self Care are, what selfishness is and what they look like when they are present in our lives and we’ll discover how to tell if our actions are out of Self Love or if they’ve crossed over into selfishness. Lastly, we’ll gain helpful insight into why self-love and care are so important and how our lives improve when we engage in these love centric activities. Plus, we’ll share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
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This week is all about ourselves. Ehem. Well, to be precise, it’s all about self, which is to say our Egos. Ego is central to who we are as individuals and is the lens in which we view ourselves, others, and the outside world through. The state of our Egos has a whole lot to do with how we treat ourselves and others, and when our Egos are out of whack, our sobriety is too. We’ll do our level best to define Ego and how it affects us in Recovery without going into the proverbial weeds or going down too many rabbit holes, which when we’re talking about a subject such as Ego is certainly easier said than done. We’ll provide you with helpful insight and strategies to keep the ‘ol Ego your Amigo and ensure it doesn’t get to high or too low. Plus we’ll share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls, so Listen Up.
Book Mentioned in this Episode:
A Course in Miracles: https://acim.org/acim/
Sober Meditations: www.sobermeditationsapp.com
Tao of Our Understanding: http://taorecovery.libsyn.com/
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This week we’re addressing an aspect of recovery, while incredibly important and impactful to many of us in or contemplating recovery, is often overlooked. There’s oodles of information about parenting in general, and some of that is quite applicable, but very little in the way of the unique challenges those of us in Recovery face. We’ll identify the key issues parents in recovery face, how we can overcome them successfully, and how we can use the tools of recovery to become more present, understanding and consistent with our children. Both Jason and I are Parents in Recovery and I assure you we’re not sugar coating the challenges we face as traverse the often-difficult dynamics that present themselves on the daily as recovering parents. As I often say, life has a habit of getting lifey and the parent child relationship is no exception to that rule. Plus we’ll share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
Book Mentioned in this Episode:
https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/458137?Sober-Dad
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This week’s edition of The Way Out Podcast is all about goals. Round about this time a year, losta folks are starting to implement their goals for the upcoming year, which makes it an ideal time to bring you an informative and enlightening discussion on goals as they specifically relate to recovery and folks like us who are in or contemplating recovery. We’ll discuss why goals are so important and beneficial, how we can set and achieve long term goals if we’re living a one day at a time sober lifestyle, and perhaps most important how to set goals that are actually achievable and actually improve your overall well being and quality of life. Plus we’ll share oodles of feedback from the Sober and Serious community, so Listen Up.
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This week Jason’s got a killer interview for us with Jackie LeClair. Jackie’s journey to long term recovery is rife with adversity including sexual abuse and growing up in the projects on the north side of Minneapolis in an often unstable and largely unsafe home environment, which then led into prostitution and ultimately prison . Jackie’s story, at it’s core is one of victory through hardship and true redemption in it’s purest form. Jackie’s journey to now over 11 years clean and sober is at once heart wrenching and inspiring, one of both tragedy and triumph and you won’t want to miss a minute so Listen Up.
Article Mentioned in Episode:
http://m.startribune.com/addicted-mothers-in-anoka-county-gain-hope-a-future-with-kids/239854981/
Grace Recovery:
https://www.gracefellowshipmn.org/recovery
Book Recommendation: A Woman’s Way Through the Twelve Steps
https://www.hazelden.org/store/item/2309
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This week we’re going to help you better understand the art of handling mistakes in Recovery. There are many quotes extolling the virtues around mistake making, some helpful & some not so much however Alexander Pope perhaps said it best in 1711 when he wrote, To err is human. Mistakes, or if we break apart that word into two separate parts; Mis Takes are fundamental to the human experience, yet so many of us fall into self-defeating, counter-productive, serenity smashing thought and behavior patterns both immediately after and long after we make them, no matter how big or small they are. Post mistake self-recriminations, ruminations, and second guessing may result in self-inflicted misery and a self-fulfilling lack of confidence in future endeavors. If you want to break out of this negative and painful feedback loop and be free of the prison of the mind these thoughts and behaviors create and instead spend more time being really present in the current moment in what’s happening right now then you’re gonna really dig this episode folks. We’re going to give you real practical tips and sage spiritual truth that will indeed be the antidote for what’s ailing you, plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take a bunch of your calls so Listen Up!
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This week I’m sharing an AA Speaker Tape with you, which kind of reminds me of sharing mixed tapes back in the day. How’s that for a frontal display of my old age? I’m not sharing just any ‘ol speaker tape, no I’m sharing one of my most beloved 12 Step talks of all time. One of the most important and impactful truths I learned and have implemented in my recovery is that I don’t have to act the way I feel, or as the co-host Jason puts it, feelings aren’t facts. Don M from Kentucky talks about emotions and how they ruled his life prior to implementing the spiritual practices of 12 Step recovery. This talk, dubbed “Feelings are NOT reality” strikes at the very core of what alcoholism and addiction are in my experience, and Don does a masterful job at laying out the kit of spiritual tools that are indeed the solution to our common problem. The only thing better than his accent is his experience, strength, and hope so Listen Up.
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This week we’ve got a timely episode in store for you on Navigating the Holidays in Recovery. The Holidays can be an especially stressful time charged with difficult emotions and fraught with potentially difficult and risky situations we may not have faced in Recovery. Fear not my faithful friends in Recovery, we’ve got just the thing for you this Holiday with special Holiday edition jam packed and busting at the seams with helpful insights and 12 Tips to Stay clean, sober, joyful and Serene all throughout and after this magical time of year. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious Community and take your calls, so Listen Up!
Sobriety Reset for Women:
https://sobrietyreset.com/optin33607892
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This week we’re talking all about Rule #62 of the 12-Step program Alcoholics Anonymous – Don’t take yourself so damn seriously. On the surface, this seems a rather simple and straightforward concept, however on further review; questions likely arise that don’t appear to have an easy answer like What does it mean to not take ourselves too seriously? How serious is too serious? Isn’t Sobriety and Recovery, at its core a serious and often life or death endeavor? How do we avoid taking ourselves so seriously and what recovery tools can we use in our efforts? We’ll answer all of these questions, share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls, so without further ado we give your our episode on Rule 62. Listen up.
Ted Talk Referenced On This Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-o3piURD0U
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This week we’re taking controversy head on as we dedicate an entire episode to the oft discussed, mostly misunderstood and definitely unofficial Step 13. Nary a topic in Recovery invites more heated discussion and debate than that of Step 13. Folks in 12 Step recovery accuse one another of it, make light of it, and indeed engage in this type of behavior which can have detrimental and even severe and irreparable consequences to the targets of this sometimes harassing and predatory conduct. We ain’t gonna run from discussing this hot button issue, nor are we going to invoke recovery literature to justify the occurrence of this behavior in 12 Step recovery rooms and clubs. We’ll discuss the risks of this behavior, and they can be grave, what you can do to protect yourself, whether you’re a guy or gal, and what you can do to avoid engaging in it yourself, hint – it has a lot to do with practicing the principles of the 12 Steps and in the meantime we’ll be sharing all sorts of spirited feedback from the Sober & Serious community so Listen up.
Fourth Step Worksheet:
https://12step.org/docs/Step4_Inventory.pdf
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This week we’re concluding our series on the 12 Steps with none other than the namesake of the program, Step 12. There’s a whole lot to unpack in this Step from getting our collective heads around what a spiritual awakening is, to how to carry the message, and perhaps the most daunting directive of all – applying all of the principles of the previous 11 Steps in all facets of our lives. This Step is the coup d'etat, the culmination of all the work we’ve done up to this point, and now we can be agents of good, agents of hope, and ultimately agents of change for those still suffering, those contemplating recovery, and those new or struggling in Recovery. There are many ways to have a spiritual awakening, countless ways to be of service and carry the message of recovery, and endless opportunities to apply the principles of the 12 Steps in our daily lives. In short, Step 12 isn’t the end of our work in 12 Step Recovery, no my brothers and sisters it’s quite literally just the beginning. Have no fear though, we’ll take you through what Step 12 is, how and why we work it, and what we can expect as we implement Step 12 into our life and program of recovery, so Listen Up.
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This week we’re driving toward the conclusion of our series on the 12 Steps with our focus turned singularly on Step 11. Much seems to be asked of us in this particular Step, and many whom first encounter it may indeed feel initially overwhelmed and ill equipped to undertake what appears to be an endeavor reserved strictly for high priests, monks and nuns. Thankfully, this most assuredly is not the case. We’re simply attempting, on a daily basis, to become more spiritually aware and connected through intentional acts as we are increasingly able to perform. This comes in more traditional methods like morning and evening prayer, set meditation times, and spiritual reading to less conventional activities like Yoga or breath practices. These activities for all that can and has been said about spiritual practices are essentially intended to allow us to get to the core of our spiritual truths. Are we going to spend our moments, hours, days, and years acting more out of fear and all of it’s manifestations? Or are we going to spend these moments, these hours, these days, and yes these years acting out of love, the truest manifestation of the will of the God of Our Understanding. The answer to that, lies in how often we are willing to mindfully and intentionally do the work that is embodied in Step 11. This episode, in turn, will give you a sound understanding of what this Step is, how to work it, and what we can expect once we begin to integrate this practice in our own lives, so Listen Up.
Step 11 Meditation Worksheets
http://www.medsaa.com/?fbclid=IwAR3U5Y1tmi6uEay1_gVpy0oJeQKyqZBwsFdTk_kNxn3H7An7osxMC5vMPs0
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This week we’re interviewing Joshua Shea and we’re talking about a subject that is cloaked in shame and marred by a social stigma reminiscent of the leapers of bygone millennia. Joshua Shea is a recovering pornography addict, recovering alcoholic and author. Joshua has appeared on over 50 podcasts, television and radio shows using his personal story to promote the ideas that porn addiction spans all demographics and those with a problem should seek help before it’s too late, as it became in his case. While drug addiction and alcoholism no doubt are still battling the bad rap of social stigma to some extent, Pornography and Sex addiction is the Secret affliction hardly a soul will speak of. Despite this deafening silence, porn and sex has never been more accessible. Alarming as it is, 35% of internet downloads are pornographic. 40 million Americans say they regularly visit porn sites and on third of all internet porn users are women. As a consequence, as much as 8% of the population admits to having a sex related addiction and the actual number is likely much higher than that. You’ll find Joshua’s honesty at once disarming and on point, realizing that though the externalities of porn and sex addiction are rather distinct, the underlying causes and conditions are quite universal. There’s little doubt you’ll take a whole lot away from this remarkable interview, so Listen Up. Books by Joshua Shea The Addiction Nobody Will Talk About: How I Let My Pornography Addiction Hurt People and Destroy Relationships He’s a Porn Addict…Now What? will be released in late 2019 www.RecoveringPornAddict.com
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This week we’ve got a very different perspective on Addiction & Recovery in an interview with Mark Scheeren. Mark is the co-author of The Freedom Model of Addiction, the first non 12 Step methodology to treat addiction and alcoholism. A word of caution; this approach may sound like heresy to 12 Step enthusiasts and advocates and to some extent it very well may be. Indeed I count myself as a strong advocate for the benefits of 12-Step Recovery. Our philosophy on this program is to bring you a wide variety of views, approaches, and experiences on and around Addiction and Recovery. To invoke a 12 Step slogan, take what you want and leave the rest. That said, I encourage you to keep a very instructive quote from the book Alcoholics Anonymous close to your heart as you listen to this interview “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation”. Mark’s primary message is one of personal empowerment, free will, the power of positive motivation, and ultimately making the case that there’s more than one way to treat alcoholism and addiction. Listen Up. The Freedom Model: https://www.thefreedommodel.org/ Book: The Freedom Model for Addictions: Escape the Treatment and Recovery Trap Chinese Proverb Featured in the Interview: Be careful of your thoughts, for your thoughts become your words. Be careful of your words, for your words become your actions. Be careful of your actions, for your actions become your habits. Be careful of your habits, for your habits become your character. Be careful of your character, for your character becomes your destiny.
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This week we’re bringing you a captivating discussion with Jeremiah Campbell. Jeremiah is many things; an entrepreneur, Father, Husband, volunteer, and indeed a person on long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction. Jeremiah’s anything but picture-perfect trek to Recovery is at once enlightening and inspirational. You’ll no doubt be doing so much head-nodding as you relate to his experience, you’ll look like a baseball game giveaway bobble-head if you’re careful. Jeremiah tells us we’re all destined to be great in only the way we can each be, so long as we’re able to get out of the way and let a power greater unlock our potential. This interview is jam-packed with spiritual and recovery goodness, so Listen Up! Jeremiah's Recommendations: Meditations | Guided Dr. Joe Dispenza (Muse headband) Books | Traction for business | 4 agreements | Becoming supernatural | Millionaire success habits Mindmovies.com (4.0)
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This week Jason brings us a powerful & insightful interview with Jeff Powell. Jeff’s story will bring you to the depths of addiction, and the stark reality of what it’s like to battle addiction in the unfriendly environs of the streets of Chicago, to the deceptively unforgiving suburbs of Minneapolis & St. Paul. Jeff’s unadulterated honesty and candor reveal that one can indeed go through the proverbial wringer, and then come out the other side to live a rewarding life of Recovery. You’ll find spiritual truth and Recovery wisdom all throughout this amazing story of Recovery, so buckle up get ready to Listen Up. Book recommendation: Filter Shift: How Effective People See The World by Sara Taylor App Recommendation: Fearless Motivation - Motivational speeches and interviews for free to listen to.
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps with our focus now turning squarely to Step 10. In many ways, this Step is the litmus test in identifying if we’re truly willing to put the principles of the 12 Steps to daily, continual practice within ourselves and those around us. Are we willing to take a regular self-inventory? Are we willing to take responsibility for our actions no matter what the circumstances are? Perseverance is the underlying principle at work here, and it is an indispensable asset to making good on the directive of Step 10. A regular Step 10 worked well is well worth the effort and will pay handsome dividends to the quality of your recovery. We’ll get you up to speed on exactly what Step 10 is, why we work it, how we work it, and what we can expect as a result of this vital Step, plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls. Listen Up. 10th Step Worksheets: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5405df05e4b0abd245577885/t/58b3835a9de4bb80d4821c60/1488159578932/10th+Step+Daily+Review+Worksheet+%281%29.pdf https://www.oa-dcmetro.org/big-book-study-pdfs/BB_Study_Daily_Step_10-11_Wkshts.pdf
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This week we’ve got a very special interview for you with Eric Zimmer, a person in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction as well as the Host and Co-Founder of The One You Feed Podcast. The namesake of the aforementioned podcast comes from a Cherokee Parable. The parable, for those of you whom are unfamiliar, goes as follows. An old Cherokee chief was teaching his grandson about life...
"A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.
"One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt, and ego.
"The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
"This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
The old chief simply replied, "The one you feed." Eric’s far from idyllic journey to recovery is chalked full of spiritual truth and down-right useful wisdom stemming from not only his own personal experience, but that of nearly 300 interviews of folks across the recovery and spiritual spectrum. This episode is brimming with value to you, whether you’re contemplating recovery, new to recovery, or a recovery veteran. Listen Up. Check out The One You Feed here: https://www.oneyoufeed.net/ Eric's Book Recommendation: When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chödrön
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Along with Jason and count ‘em 31 special guests, I’m Charlie and this week we have an incredibly special episode in store for you. Jason and I were humbled to be a part of an extraordinary event a short time ago, the 9th annual Walk for Recovery which is organized by Minnesota Recovery Connection – a non-profit organization committed to building recovery capital in individuals, families, and communities in the greater Twin Cities Metropolitan Area. Jason and I took to the streets of the capitol grounds in Saint Paul, MN to ask folks whom attended this Recovery Extravaganza some questions about why they showed up and what recovery means to them. What we got back was overwhelming and striking themes of connection, unity, hope, and a universal penchant to smash the Stigma of being a person in long term recovery from alcoholism and addiction. So without further ado, I give you What Recovery Sounds like courtesy of Alisha, Andrea, Brandon, Christine, Christopher, Crystal, Grace, James, Jennifer, Jeremy, John, Josh, Kristyn, Matt, Pam, Rick, Vicki, Brian, Corey, Karen, Keith, Kevin, Mary, Melinda, Michael, Micky, Nina, Roy, Sara, Wendy, and last but certainly not least, Wes. Listen Up.
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps with a singular focus on Step 9. There’s plenty of reason why Step 9 occurs in the 12 Steps in the order it does. We’re attempting to straighten out our relationships with others, many of whom we’ve hurt, some in the most damaging of ways. Fear is a likely companion when facing these often daunting amends; but if we follow the simple instructions we will indeed be amazed before we are half-way through this process. We share with you, what Step 9 is, our purpose in working it, how we work it, and reveal that on the other side, a freedom unlike we’ve ever experienced awaits us. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls, so Listen Up.
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps and turning our focus squarely on Step 8. Step 8 is simple; make a list of folks we wronged and become willing to make it right – but for many of us spiritual work, even if it’s simple, just ain’t easy. The reality is; when emotions like fear, anger, resentment, and righteous indignation get stirred up when we think of some of these individuals that have made our list, things get real complicated, right quick. We’ll walk through what Step 8 consists of, our purpose in working it, how we work this Step, and what we can expect when we’ve completed our Step 8 work. We even tackle the hotly and often debated issue of whether we should or shouldn’t put our own names on that Step 8 list. Plus, we’ll share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls, so Listen Up.
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This week The Way Out Podcast is going Sugar-Free with Mike Collins – Founder of SugarAddiction.com and chairman of Food Addiction Institute. Mike is in long-term recovery from addiction and alcoholism; 34 years long and 30 of those years have been free from both caffeine and sugar. Mike shares why eliminating sugar and caffeine was a part of his journey and we discover how much both of these substances have in common with drugs and alcohol. Spoiler alert; our relationships to sugar, caffeine, and even food can and indeed may mirror our relationships to drugs and alcohol in active addiction. I implore you to bring honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness along with you as you take this episode in, and truly allow yourself to discover and uncover your own relationship with these substances. I can attest that I cannot deny that I still am guilty of slamming my dopamine receptors with caffeine all morning and sugar in the afternoon – and there’s a likely a reckoning coming my way sooner rather than later. My discussion with Mike, his journey to a drug, alcohol, and sugar-free lifestyle is worth every second of your attention – so Listen Up. Contact Mike: Facebook.com/QuitSugarNow Facebook.com/AddictionUnlimited SugarAddiction.com FoodAddictionInstitute.org
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This week we’ve got a very special interview with Jacob Jones, the Author of Recovered and a person in long term recovery from addiction. Jacob shared his story, which is the inspiration behind his book, with my fellow co-host Jason and you’ll be immediately drawn to Jacob’s disarming candor and unabashed authenticity as he shares his battle with opiate addiction and subsequent recovery and what motivated him to put pen to paper to share his journey to recovery – that he may help someone else who is struggling with or cares about some who is struggling with the addiction and abuse of substances. Jacob’s story has it all, and you won’t regret a minute of it, so Listen Up. Get Jacob's Book Here! www.TheSustainedLife.com
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps with a seriously righteous breakdown of the 7th Step. Simple in it’s phraseology, the 7th Step represents a crucial “First” in our working of the 12 Steps. It’s the first time we’re making an ask of our higher power we connected with in Steps 2 & 3 and utilized in 4, 5, and 6. Step 7 centers around a key and fundamental element of all 12 Steps, indeed, around spiritual development as a whole – Humility. This virtue gets a bad wrap in this day and age, largely because it’s often confused with thinking less of ourselves when in reality humility in practice really means thinking of our selves LESS. We’ll illuminate why Step 7 is so vital, what working this step looks like in practice, and what we can expect after working this crucial Step. Plus, we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community, take your calls, and share an email from one of our loyal listeners, so Listen Up. Step 7 Literature we discussed: What's So Amazing About Grace by Philip Yancey The Tao te Ching The Bible The Recovery Bible Drop the Rock The Ripple Effect 12 Steps & 12 Traditions (audio book available on aa.org) Eight Mindful Steps to Happiness: Walking the Path of the Buddha A Course in Miracles The Road Less Traveled A New Earth The Power of Now Sermon on the Mount Bottles and Barstools Language of the Heart One Breath at a time: Buddhism and the 12 Steps
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This week we’re taking a moment to celebrate our 150th episode of The Way Out Podcast. We reflect on why this amazing project got started, what continues to drive and inspire us, and what we we’re seeking to accomplish when we bring you powerful recovery stories and recovery power topics in a weekly downloadable format. The simple truth is we’re simply a couple of folks in long term recovery who love to talk recovery and help others to find and enhance their own recovery in the process. We do this because we genuinely like it, and we super like helping others find their own Way Out of addiction and alcoholism, because you deserve the days you have left in this planet filled with the peace, love, and joy that can only come from an examined, purposeful, and spiritual way of life. Plus, Jason takes time to share a recovery related experience we can all learn a whole lot from so Listen Up.
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This week we’re stepping away from our series on the 12 Steps to bring you a refreshingly different perspective on Recovery through a truly compelling interview with JF Benoist, Author of “Addicted to the Monkey Mind – Change the Programming That Sabotages Your Life”. JF and I explore what the “Monkey Mind” is, why so many of us reside in this state of mind as often as we do; and how we can transform our minds and bodies in unison to a persistent state of awareness, what Benoist calls the “Observing Mind”. We highlight parallels to 12-Step recovery and call out some key departures along the way. This interview will indeed enlighten and engage you, perhaps in a way that you’ve never experienced, until now. Listen Up.
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps by breaking down the often overlooked Step 6. Step 6 is in part a preparation Step, and because we addicts and alcoholics are a stubborn lot, a quite necessary one at that. We must prepare before we can take transformative actions. The balance of this Step is all about the spiritual practice of acceptance and humility. This episode will prepare you to take this Step by bringing clarity to what Step 6 is, why we do it, how we work it in practice, and what we can expect after we take this vital Step. Plus we share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls. Listen Up. Sixth Step Prayer: Dear God, I am ready for Your help In removing from me the defects of character Which I now realize are an obstacle to my recovery.Help me to continue being honest with myself & Guide me toward spiritual & mental health. 6th STEP: God help me become willing to let go of all the things to which I still cling. Help me to be ready to let youremove all of these defects, that yourwill and purpose may take their place. AMEN(p. 76 BB) A 6th Step prayer: God, Thank you for removing my fear and for showing me the truth about myself. Father, I need your help to become willing to let go of the things in me which continue to block me off from you. Please grant me you’re Grace Lord and make me willing to have these objectionable characteristics, defects and shortcomings removed. (76:1)
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We’re talking all about perhaps the most feared Step of all 12 we work in 12-Step recovery. Nary a soul that has ever been in existence has had an overwhelming desire and willingness to reveal not only our past transgressions and wrongs, but quite literally the worst of themselves to their higher power, themselves and another human being. Many of us have gone to great lengths to tuck our darker selves far far away so we didn’t have to look at it and so others wouldn’t see it. Step 5 is a spiritual housecleaning; allowing us to rejoin humanity in a way we’ve never been able to prior to working this vital step. You’ll walk out of this episode with a clear and deeper understanding of what Step 5 is, the purpose of working this step, and what we can expect during and after we work this all important step. Plus we share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls, so Listen Up!
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This week we have two firsts in the History of The Way Out Podcast. Co-host Jason did his first ever solo interview with first time guest Casey Ryan. Casey relates her journey to long term recovery with an easy transparency and brings forth an near endless supply of spiritual truth & recovery wisdom along the way. Casey grew up torn between two worlds, leaving her doubting her own self-worth before finding herself in the throws of alcoholism and addiction. Her story will have you alternately relating, laughing, and ultimately leaving you inspired to take more meaningfully positive risks in your own recovery journey. I just have to say, this quite likely isn’t the last your gonna hear from this absolute dynamo of a woman on this podcast. Now without further ado, here’s Jason’s interview with Casey Ryan. Listen Up.
Casey Ryan Life & Recovery Coaching:
https://ryanlifecoaching.com/
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps. We’re taking on perhaps the most feared, conceivably the most misunderstood, and quite likely the most practically useful Step of the 12 that make up the 12 Step Recovery Program. We’ll discuss in simple terms what the purpose of Step 4 is, how to work this crucial step, and what you can expect after completing this all-important self-inventory process. Plus, we share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
Reach out to Andrew:
AndrewBuzzkill - Instagram
ajaxbuzkill - Snapchat
Step 4 Worksheet:
https://12step.org/docs/Step4_Inventory.pdf
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This week we’re continuing our series on the 12 Steps with our focus turning squarely to Step 3. Step 3 is the point in the 12 Steps in which we make a fateful decision that will be quickly followed by a series of actions specifically designed and purpose intended to produce a profound change that brings about our recovery from addiction and alcoholism. However we arrive at the decision, whether through introspective analysis on our past way of living or because we’ve seen others work the Steps and Recover – or both; the decision itself remains the same for all. Are we going to keep on living the old way, relying on our finite selves? Or are we going to try something new and start living according to a power greater; perhaps an infinite power to aid us in our transformation from sick and addicted to recovered and free. We’ll discuss in much greater detail why this step is so crucial to lasting and meaningful recovery, how to work this step and what Step 3 looked like for each of us. Plus we share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
Step 3 Worksheets:
https://www.saiecv.org/documents/3rd%20Step%20Guide.pdf
https://www.erikbohlin.net/handouts/step2step3questions.pdf
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We have a recovery story for the ages to share with you this week. From a wicked bad childhood riddled with abuse and abject abandonment to a binge drinking young man with a penchant for Grand Theft Auto, Timothy quite literally endured jails, institutions, and after one alcohol fueled nightmare wished for death due to the grave and eternal consequences that resulted. At it’s core, this story teaches us that redemption is possible no matter how far down the scale we have gone, and that each and every one of us has a greater calling and purpose - if we’re open and willing to receive it. Without further ado, I give you Timothy’s story in complete and uninterrupted fashion. Listen Up.
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This week we’ve got an incredible interview on tap for you with Arlina – host and founder of the ODAAT Chat Podcast and the brains behind SoberLifeSchool.com. Arlina is a 12 Step recovery powerhouse and her incredible Recovery journey is nothing short of pure inspiration. Arlina’s story is a case study in why we don’t have to use or drink for decades to be a certified Alcoholic or Addict and a model for what long term recovery can look like. Listen Up.
Listen to the ODAAT Chat Here:
www.odaatchat.com
Find the Sober Life School here:
www.soberlifeschool.com
Find the 5 Minute Journal here:
https://amzn.to/2WspSpB
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This week is all about Step 2 as we continue our series on the 12 Steps. We break down in practical terms what Step 2 means and how to work what can seem to be an impossibly abstract spiritual concept. Plus we share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
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This week we’re beginning our series on the 12 Steps. We begin, naturally, with Step One which reads “We Admitted We Were Powerless Over Alcohol, that our Lives Had Become Unmanageable”. Critical to overcoming any problem is recognizing & accepting there is a problem in the first place. Step one at it’s very core, is a surrender to our powerlessness and the unmanageability that manifests in our lives as a result. We’ll unpack the key elements of understanding what Step One means, what causes our powerlessness and unmanageability, and practical ways we can work Step One in our own recoveries. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious Community and take your calls. Listen Up.
Step One Worksheet:
https://www.12step.org/docs/Step1_WS.pdf
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This week we’re discussing action - the chief activator of Recovery and the gifts that come to us as a result of the activities we carry out in our programs of recovery and on a daily basis. Action is more important that desire, willingness, and knowledge combined. The truth is, willingness is extremely helpful but not required to recover. The reality is knowledge is beneficial, but not necessary in order to achieve recovery. Right action is the central ingredient in attaining meaningful and continuous recovery. We can’t think our way into right living. We must act our way into right thinking. That’s the central truth of the solution to our core problem – we must continue to carry out the actions in order to attain and sustain a spiritual experience sufficient enough to arrest our disease – or if you will our spiritual malady. We discuss in clear terms why action is so critical, what actions activate recovery, as well as the daily actions necessary to maintain our spiritual fitness and as a result our recoveries. Plus we share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
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This week we’re examining a rarely explored and often overlooked aspect of a whole and complete recovery. Vulnerability, and our ability to embrace this in our own lives, is at the foundation of our ability to be willing to do the necessary work, take the necessary steps, in order to truly recover from our disease of addiction and/or alcoholism. To the extent we can recognize, acknowledge, and indeed embrace the most broken parts of ourselves and then show them to the world so that we may tap into a until then untapped resources of community and spirituality, is the extent that we will recover completely. When we walk through the fear, backed by our newly found community and spiritual power, we come to know a new freedom and a new happiness as Bill W. wrote. So we invite you to talk a walk with us, right now, as we examine and explore how embracing vulnerability could very well be the key that unlocks your recovery. Plus we share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls. Listen up.
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This week we’re peeling the curtain back on the act of Asking for Help. Asking for help in life and especially in Recovery can be one of the difficult tasks we perform. As difficult as it may be for us; the reality is that this simple act has the power to transform our relationships and enhance our recoveries and lives as a result. We reveal why asking for help is SO difficult; and there are concrete and universal reasons this is so; as well as why asking for help is so vital to a meaningful and lasting recovery. I hope you can bear with some goofy audio courtesy of the buffer monsters invading the Zoom connection as well as my tortured vocals due to an ambitious chest cold I’m enduring – you’ll be rewarded with some serious spiritual gems. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community AND take your calls. Listen Up.
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This week we’re discussing a fundamental and root characteristic and phenomenon of addiction. Perhaps the distinguishing feature of addiction is the cycle that manifests itself universally in the alcoholic or addict, and is the defining experience of a undeniably hijacked brain. We discuss our own experiences around the cycle of addiction, explain each phase of the cycle, and how we broke that cycle in order to achieve enduring and meaningful recovery. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
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This week we’re bringing you a powerhouse discussion on Family in Recovery thanks to two absolute dynamos whom have dedicated their lives to families in Recovery. Pam and Shelly are disrupting the classic paradigm of how families deal with and recover from addiction and alcoholism in a fundamental and phenomenal way. Embracing all pathways to recovery from a family perspective to achieve the ultimate goal of breaking the cycle of addiction and achieving whole family recovery. They wonderfully detail the role each family member has in breaking this often deathly cycle, and the role each family member can fill in moving the entire family to Recovery. Plus we share feedback from the sober and serious community and take your calls. Listen Up.
Resources mentioned on this episode:
https://familyrecoveryconference.com/
https://pamlanhart.com/
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This week we bring you a special edition of The Way Out Podcast. Each one of us has hand selected one of our favorite recovery talks to share with you, in hopes you’ll enjoy them at least as much as we do. What these speakers have in common is rather instructive – they all inject a healthy dose of humor, vulnerability, honesty, and spiritual truth into their talks, and they all leave you feeling less alone and unfixable and more connected and full of hope that in fact there is a solution that provides us the relief we’ve all so desperately sought in drugs, alcohol and other addictions. In the interest of time; each talk has been abbreviated; and I’ve provided links to the full talks in the show notes of this episode. I encourage you to listen to the rest of each one of these spectacular talks; they are worth every second of your attention. Prepare yourselves to relate, to laugh, and to reflect my friends. Without further delay, we give you The Way Out Podcast’s curated Recovery Speaker Episode – Listen Up.
Full talks available Here:
Adam T:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYPa2PKwnI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2ZoSc0As2ffi8aPk3KhXFhcj6gOY9eDSGPKVDcaqyHrbaJIGieFFrSuWo
Ousmane D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHGFfwZWkJ0&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR34B40h2UwCzuwhhOth-iINCiWi0QDBqIb9EThzXHZ_dd9W-bZXTx2BC0Q
Clancy I:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoxofrHTIwE
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This week we’re talking growth in Recovery. We get off to a bit of a rocky start this week with Louie the Recovery Dog loosing his mind over various humans and animals passing in front of the window that catch his ire; combined with an unexpected juvenile laughing fit over the synonyms to the word “growth”; suffice it to say we all clearly have some more growing UP to do. When we do finally get down to business, we illuminate what growth in recovery has looked like for each of us; and what it looks like for us today. I drop a metaphor that, I hope, will give you some insight into why growth in recovery is so critical. We also discuss what tools we can practically implement in order to activate growth in our own recovery journeys; regardless of where we are in our recovery journey. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls – Listen Up!
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This week we’re bringing you an enlightening discussion on the idea that All Pathways to Recovery are valid, important, and worth considering and sharing amongst one another in the Recovery Community. There are an array of formal recovery methodologies that have worked for many of us whom are in active and long term recovery including 12 Step; Faith based, Peer led, cognitive behavioral, among others. There are those too, whom have found their own unique path using a blend of existing modalities or have flat out invented their own approach that works for them. No matter the approach, what matters is that the outcome results in meaningful and enduring change for those whom need and often more importantly, truly desire recovery from addiction and/or alcoholism. We discuss in practical terms why all pathways to recovery are valid and worthwhile; what many of these methods are, and how we can go about selecting the best pathway for us – regardless of where we are in our recovery journeys. Plus we share feedback from the Sober and Serious community and take your calls – Listen Up!
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This week we’re delving into the topic of Sponsorship in Recovery. If you’ve spent any time at all around the rooms of 12-Step recovery you no doubt have heard more than a few folks spout the virtues of sponsorship. We tell you what sponsors are, and perhaps more importantly what they are not as well as what a sponsor does and again of at least equal importance, what they do not do. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls – Listen Up.
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This week we’re undertaking, pardon the pun, the heavy topic of Grief in Recovery. Grief is often a complicated, difficult, and down right messy process we all must endure during our time here on earth. It’s as core to the human experience as experiencing love and human connection, and indeed is an unpleasant and direct consequence of our profound capacity to bond with our loved ones. We discuss how active addiction and alcoholism often complicates the grieving process, how the grief process works, and how we can apply the tools of Recovery to aid us in this process we work through, however imperfectly that may be. Plus we share feedback on this topic from the Sober and Serious community AND take your calls – so Listen Up.
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This week we’re breaking down a subject that quite often played a critical role in our active addiction and alcoholism, and is if supreme importance to as many as 80% of us whom have a substance use disorder. And that is the issue of Mental Health. Those of us whom have a mental health diagnosis know all too well the perils of having to navigate the pitfalls of both alcoholism and/or addiction along side a mental illness such as depression, anxiety, bi-polar, or any number of mental health issues. We break down what mental health means, how it affects addiction and alcoholism, and practical actions you can take to improve your mental health and as a result your daily life in Recovery. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community – you all had a LOT to say on this one, and we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
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This week we’re discussing boundaries in Recovery. Emotional & Physical boundaries often were all over the place while we were in active addiction and alcoholism. An untoward side-effect of ritualistic masking and numbing emotions with substances produced the side-effect of being disconnected from the boundary warning signals our emotions are sending us. Recovery is often a process of discovery. Getting to know how we feel given certain behaviors and situations informs what our boundaries are. Some boundaries are abundantly clear – such as overt physical or emotional abuse, and others are less so – requiring us to pay close attention to those newfound emotions and what they’re trying to tell us about ourselves. We’ll define what boundaries in recovery are, how to define them for yourself, and how to communicate them to the people in your life. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take one very interesting call – Listen Up!
Great article on setting Boundaries in Recovery by Hazelden:
https://www.hazeldenbettyford.org/articles/boundaries-in-addiction-recovery
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This week we’ve got a compelling interview with Author Kristin Casey. Kristin is the Author of Rock Monster: My Life with Joe Walsh as well as an intimacy coach and a person in long term recovery from addiction and alcoholism. Make no mistake; the hook of Kristin’s book is Joe Walsh. Joe is an enigmatic character who commands a “look at me, look at me” kind of attention and Kristin does a superb job of bringing Joe to life over the course of the story laid out in the pages of this remarkable memoir. More striking is the way in which Kristin’s very identity becomes inextricably connected to Joe and the rise and fall of their relationship – a dynamic all too many of us can intimately relate with. The remarkably dark and desperately lonely place King Alcohol took Kristin after her identity was stripped from her as a result of the demise of their relationship is nothing short of horrifying – a true miracle she’s here with us today. The only part of Kristin’s story more remarkable than her wild ride with Joe Walsh and the shocking events that followed is that of her extraordinary comeback powered by working the 12-Steps, a good sponsor, and yes, being of service. We’re suckers for a good ‘ol fashioned comeback here at The Way Out Podcast and Kristin’s story doesn’t disappoint so Listen Up.
CODA Self-Evaluation:
http://coda.org/index.cfm/meeting-materials1/patterns-and-characteristics-2011/
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This week we’re breaking down the oft overlooked and perhaps even more so dreaded 12-Step concept of Character Defects in recovery. In short order, you’ll get a practical definition of what Character Defects are and why we want to shed their dominance over our day to day thoughts, actions, and interactions with others. Understanding the what and how of it will lead is into what actions we can take in order to free ourselves from the stronghold character defects such as fear, anger, selfishness, control, among many others, have on us. Plus we share feedback from the Sober & Serious community and take your calls so Listen Up.
Drop the Rock:
https://www.hazelden.org/OA_HTML/item/6666?Drop-the-Rock-Second-Edition&utm_source=hbf&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=droptherock
Drop the Rock...The Ripple Effect
https://www.hazelden.org/OA_HTML/item/367136?Drop-the-Rock-The-Ripple-Effect&src_url=itemquest&utm_source=hbf&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=droptherock
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We’re talking relapse and recovery. Relapse often can be a loaded term; often bandied about in discussion on recovery spurring heated debates on whether relapse is a part of recovery or if it is the antithesis of what we’re trying to achieve in recovery. Make no mistake, relapse can be and is a part of many of our journeys to long term and meaningful recovery and assinging shame or judgement on those who experience relapse has no place in recovery. That said, relapse is NOT a part of recovery itself – no relapse is fundamentally the total absence of recovery and is antithetical to everything we’re seeking in recovery. We take a closer look at the stages of relapse, what behaviors mark each stage, and what we can do to thwart the onset of relapse thinking and behavior. Whether you’re new in recovery or been around a few 24 hours, you’ll get a mega dose of relapse defying insight and practical tools you can apply to your recovery. Plus, we hear what the Sober & Serious community has to say on the topic and take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and this week I’m bringing you a special presentation of perhaps one of the if not the most influential talks in modern 12-Step recovery. We’re bringing you this in lieu of our regularly scheduled podcast on relapse in Recovery. We had a bit of a technical snafu causing us to push our weekly recording to Wednesday. Parenthetically that caused me to work through some character defects like perfectionism, pride, and ego which I’ll talk more about in the Recover Revealed segment later in the podcast. Nevertheless, stay tuned for Wednesday’s episode on Relapse in Recovery as I am SUPER excited about what we’ve got in store for you in that episode. I’ve isolated the audio of Fred Holmquist’s lecture on the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous and the 12-Step program it outlines for all of you to easily listen and take in as you would with any other podcast you might listen to. Fred distills the quintessential dilemma of the addict and alcoholic in such a way that cuts straight to the heart of the matter which then sets up his distillation of the solution perfectly, which is a program of action as outlined in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. Perhaps nobody has done a better job than that of Fred Holmquist relating our core problem and the solution contained in the 12-Steps since Joe & Charlie’s talks entitled “The Big Book Comes Alive”. My hope is that you will find this talk as enlightening and as useful as I did when I watched the videos while in treatment at Hazelden more than 4 years ago, but even if you only find them a fraction as useful that would still be a tremendous addition to your recovery.
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This week we’re talking Complacency in Recovery. Complacency can be a formidable and subtle foe in maintaining meaningful and lasting recovery. It is without question quite human to experience complacency in any number of facets in our lives; and recovery is no exception. For those of us in Recovery however, complacency often can and indeed does precede relapse. We’re going to discuss what complacency in recovery means; how to detect it, where it stems from, and what practical action we can take to ensure we’re not falling victim to this all too common pitfall in Recovery. Plus we share comments on this topic from Sober & Serious AND take your calls! Listen Up!
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This week we’re talking right to and all about the Newcomer to recovery. It’s often said the newcomer is the most important person in a 12-Step meeting, though it doesn’t necessarily feel that way when you are first entering a program of Recovery. We give you, the newcomer, straight forward, practical actions you can implement straight away that will yield remarkable results as well as helpful insights into why these actions make such a big difference in Recovery. For the person in long term recovery, we remind you of how vitally important it is to your own recovery to reach out and help the newcomer in any way you can. Plus we take calls from the Way Out Podcast listeners. Listen Up.
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This week we’ve got a fantastic discussion on tap for you with Mr. Mike Govoni. Mike has been in long term recovery from addiction and alcoholism to the tune of 14 years, works on the front line in emergency rooms on the opioid & addiction crisis, and is the founder of Breath by Breath Wellness – where mindfulness and breath are cornerstones of his approach to total wellness coaching. Mike has one amazing Recovery story to share, along with incredibly insightful lessons he’s learned on his journey to wellness. He speaks of ACE’s – or adverse childhood experiences, a topic we’ll dive into in greater depth in our Recovery Revealed segment, as well as what he learned from each of the TWO bottoms he’s hit in his Journey to recovery; one of these bottoms while in sobriety. You won’t want to miss a minute of this gem of an interview so Listen UP.
Mike can be reached here:
Website: www.breathbybreathwellness.com
Instagram : mikegovoni
Facebook: mike govoni
Adverse Childhood Experience Test (you'll need to find it in the article):
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/03/02/387007941/take-the-ace-quiz-and-learn-what-it-does-and-doesnt-mean
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This week we’re discussing the importance of and how to inject perseverance into recovery. Without question any meaningful and lasting recovery must have some measure of perseverance as a foundational and defining characteristic. Perseverance is often the key ingredient that separates those who succeed in any endeavor, and Recovery is no exception. A cursory Google search on the word perseverance will yield countless quotes from some of history’s most influential people, waxing poetic on the virtues of hard work, determination, and a never say die attitude. You’ll get the low down on perseverance in Recovery and how to apply it to your own recovery as well as why the goal might actually be to have to persevere LESS. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Audience. One note before we kick the show off – I humbly ask that you persevere through a less than ideal audio experience as the studio equipment was adjusted by a 17 year old boy whom shall remain nameless while he was recording piano samples with Dad’s podcast studio gear, thus the gain on the channel my vocals are recorded on was up WAY too high. I did my level best to clean up a very HOT signal, so without further ado – Listen Up.
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The Dash:
http://www.nightingale.com/articles/the-dash/
These instructions are for the below prayer (Big Book, Freedom from Bondage, p. 552):
‘If you have a resentment you want to be free of, if you will pray for the person or the thing that you resent, you will be free. If you will ask in prayer for everything you want for yourself to be given to them, you will be free…Even when you don’t really want it for them, and your prayers are only words and you don’t mean it, go ahead and do it anyway. Do it every day for two weeks and you will find you have come to mean it and to want it for them, and you will realize that where you used to feel bitterness and resentment and hatred, you now feel compassionate understanding and love.’
This week we’re taking on the number one offender in preventing recovery from taking root and often a major contributor to relapse – Resentments. We shed light on what resentments actually are, how to detect if you have them, why it’s so important to move past them, and how to actually live a life that is free of the devastating effects of resentment. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners – Listen Up.
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This week I’ve got a down right remarkable story to share with you; a story not often heard on The Way Out Podcast airwaves. Melinda’s story is marked by a tumultuous and chaotic childhood providing the fertile soil for dysfunction and addiction to take root as she began to traverse the uncharted territory of adulthood. The sentinel moment that marked the beginning of Melinda’s Recovery is ultra-relatable and provides the compelling catalyst for her finding Recovery in various programs, not the least of which included the 12-Steps in Adult Children of Alcoholics. Melinda’s perspective on Recovery is on point; astute, and nuanced, and quite refreshing. To that end, and without further ado, I give you Melinda in unadulterated and totally uninterrupted fashion – Listen Up.
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We’ve got a phenomenal interview for you with Stephen Daniels, who is in long term recovery from both gambling and porn addiction. Stephen shares his 15 plus year battle with these addictions in an honest and authentic way, looking to smash the stigma and shame that’s so often attached to addiction, especially society’s awkward relationship to porn and the deafening silence and lack of conversation surrounding porn addiction. Stephen’s story affirms that despite how our primary addictions manifest, whether it be drugs, alcohol, gambling, or porn – the root cause and the solution is universal. Stephen’s mission to break the silence and smash the stigma of porn and gambling addiction starts right now. Listen Up.
Stephen D. Daniels
Motivational Speaker
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The Problem & Solution by Fred Holmquist Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtTfUBTes8 (Part 1 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crP10-oqzHo (Part 2 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9ot0QCHzXk (Part 3 of 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUsSarmLKtY (Part 4 of 5)
https://youtu.be/rEO6fbfm1sg (Part 5 of 5)
Staying Sober: A Guide for Relapse Prevention:
https://www.amazon.com/Staying-Sober-Guide-Relapse-Prevention/dp/083090459X
We’re addressing a common struggle many of us have faced on our recovery journeys – the process of facing and overcoming barriers to recovery. We’ve talked at length on various important and impactful elements of recovery and this week we’re helping demystify common barriers we often face before lasting and meaningful recovery can be achieved. Learning what these barriers are, and how to overcome them is paramount if we want to achieve rewarding & enduring recovery. All this, plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners – Listen Up!
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We’ve got an outstanding final episode of 2018 for you to enjoy. Jared is coming back into Recovery after a near fatal overdose and shares very candidly and openly about his struggle with alcoholism and heroin addiction. Jared’s journey dovetails splendidly with our ensuing discussion on Community in Recovery. It’s often said in all walks of life, regardless of the situation, that “it takes a village” and that is no truer than in Recovery. Community in so many ways provides the antidote to addiction and alcoholism. We give you the big wins that come from connecting with your recovery community & even more helpful, we give you practical ways you can make that life giving community connection. Plus, we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners. Listen Up.
Here's the link to the video we talked about on the show!
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This week we’ll be exploring an often treacherous dynamic in recovery – relationships. Many of us have endured unhealthy and even toxic relationships during our active addiction and alcoholism. Navigating relationships, especially in early recovery; whether you’re currently in a committed relationship or contemplating entering a relationship, can be difficult and complex at best and down right risky and dangerous at worst. A toxic relationship in recovery can threaten your sobriety and even the very safety of yourself, your children, and your family. We discuss in very practical and useful terms how to navigate these turbulent waters and share how our programs of Recovery helped us be better friends, sponsors, sponsees, and mates as well as how our pickers done got fixed. Listen Up.
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Sometimes in Recovery we have to adapt & overcome unforeseen obstacles that stand in our way; or as the Serenity Prayer elegantly states – Change the things we can. Our recording session for this week’s podcast was stopped before it started when we had a key piece of equipment fail – preventing us from being able to record any audio. For your audio tech nerds out there, it was my trusty and yes kind of dusty Alesis iO2 audio interface that went belly up. With any hopes of a studio session dashed I was faced with two choices; either skip this week’s podcast all together or try to put something out myself. Just as I was attempting to lie down for a sleep last night an idea popped into my head – what if I could get folks to call in to the show and share whatever was on their heart or mind regarding recovery? An all caller based show! Ladies and germs, that’s exactly what we have for your this week. We’re often faced with a choice to do something or nothing; and this week is the result of a decision to give you all something special, straight from our listeners. Thank you so much AnneMarie, Big Jim, Buddy, Chris, and Michelle – each and every one of you most certainly made this possible. Listen Up.
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This week we’re covering a seriously under-rated topic in Recovery – Purpose. We discuss in simple & practical terms what purpose actually is and how we can achieve purpose in our own lives. Spoiler alert, it doesn’t have to be some over the top or profound higher calling in order for it to be both meaningful and effective in your life. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Audience. Listen Up.
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Gratitude, can indeed be something we can cultivate in our lives with intention and purpose. Gratitude is a powerful emotion we’ve all hopefully experienced on some level through various points in our lives, but we often think of Gratitude as something that happens to us, as if we don’t have any influence on whether it occurs or not. Gratitude, rather, can indeed be something we can cultivate in our lives with intention and purpose. During our discussion I sprinkle in 31 unique ways gratitude can improve our lives; but I’ll give you one right now. Gratitude, when cultivated intentionally, has the same positive effect on our well being as doubling our income! We discuss how to cultivate gratitude, as well as what life like was when we were devoid of this powerful life enhancing emotion. Plus, we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
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We discuss perhaps one of the most important & profoundly impactful topics in Recovery – acceptance as well as it’s yang to the yin – Denial. Without question a hallmark of active addiction and alcoholism is behavior marked by and rooted in denial. We explore why denial is so prevalent in active addiction & alcoholism and how acceptance is the true antidote to the many denial mechanisms that plague us pre and post sobriety. Plus we take calls from Felix from Brooklyn New York and Rachel from Oakdale Minnesota. Listen Up.
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Forgiveness in the context of Addiction and Alcoholism recovery is an essential and transformative process which in classic paradoxical fashion actually releases the Forgiver - providing the crucial freedom from the bondage of often long held and seemingly justifiable resentments. We provide good working definitions of Forgiveness and it’s inversely connected condition – the state of resentment. Plus we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners. Listen Up.
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Emotional sobriety strikes at the very core of what it means to be an addict and alcoholic. We bring you an engaging and enlightening discussion on what Bill W of Alcoholics Anonymous dubbed the next frontier of AA – Emotional Sobriety. Emotional sobriety strikes at the very core of what it means to be an addict and alcoholic and what separates simply being sober from being in Recovery. We reveal to you what emotional sobriety is and what the reverse state is, emotional inebriety. You’ll learn how to identify if you have emotional sobriety and how to tell if you don’t. Perhaps most helpful, we’ll discuss how to become emotionally sober and why it’s so important in Recovery. Plus we take calls from the way out podcast listeners! Listen Up!
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We’re breaking down perhaps one of the most, if not the most important elements in sustaining meaningful recovery. The Way Out Podcast is on right now. Along with my cohosts Jordan and Jason, I’m Charlie and this week we’re breaking down perhaps one of the most, if not the most important elements in sustaining meaningful recovery – the act of Service in Recovery. The practice of altruistic service has been a part of civilization since the dawn of man; and the benefits of this selfless form of service are well supported by every major wisdom tradition including 12-Step organizations, all major religions, and even the tao de ching dating back more than 2500 years. We’ll enlighten you and distill the benefits, the forms of service, and the how and why of it all right now. Listen Up.
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This week we’ve got a special interview with a fellow recovery Podcaster John from Sober Speak. I never cease to be amazed at the power and spiritual truth that comes through each & every recovery journey & John is no exception to this rule. John’s story is marked by profound turnarounds in the most unlikely situations, especially his relationship with his mother, a woman whom suffered mightily, for many years from a mental health perspective. John’s story is one of pain & struggle transmuted into Recovery & Service and you won’t want to miss a minute. Listen Up.
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We answer crazy important questions like what in the actual EF is this Gift of Desperation? . I’m Charlie and this week Jason, Alex and I discuss a phenomenon in recovery often referred to as the Gift of Desperation. We give you a good working definition of what it is and we answer crazy important questions like what in the actual EF is this Gift of Desperation? Why is it even called a gift? Is it a prerequisite to recovery? Why do some people receive this so called gift and some people don’t? Plus, we take calls from The Way Out Podcast Listeners! Listen Up!
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Chris’s journey to recovery from over-eating and alcoholism was remarkable and will with out any doubt ring true with any one of you whom are struggling with or in recovery from alcoholism and/or addiction. Chris’s story and his point of surrender is a must listen; and so is his original music which we’ll feature in uninterrupted fashion on this very episode. Listen Up.
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We discuss the spiritual axiom of surrendering to win. I’m Charlie, and this week my co-host Jason and I are bringing you an incredibly useful and enlightening discussion on Surrender. More specifically we discuss the spiritual axiom of surrendering to win and how that principle is uniquely applicable to Recovery as well as other aspects of life such as in relationships, work, and even sport! Surrender often has a very negative connotation, but we’re flipping the script on Surrender and giving you the ability to apply the surrender to win principle in your own life and recovery! Plus, we take calls from Buddy, Ev, John, and Jack! Listen Up!
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The difference between sobriety and serenity. We’ll learn what serenity means, why it’s important in Sobriety, and what we can do to achieve this seemingly elusive and abstract goal of recovery. We break down the serenity prayer in an instructive and enlightening way; and discuss the difference between sobriety and serenity. This week we’re in the enviable position of having literally too much show, so much show in fact we plum don’t have space for a Recovery Revealed segment. This whole dang episode is the incarnation of Recovery Revealed. We take calls from Troy, Brenda, Dan, Chris, and Annie who share some serious truth with us on Serenity in Recovery, so Listen Up.
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Super Sobriety Topic Terminal Uniqueness. Along with Jason and Alex, I’m Charlie and we’ll be your hosts for this week’s discussion on the Super Sobriety Topic Terminal Uniqueness. We’ll give you an indispensably valuable definition of what Terminal Uniqueness is, and how it can and does act as a block to meaningful and lasting recovery. Join Alex, Jason and myself as we share our own experiences with Terminal Uniqueness and how we and many others in the Recovery Community overcame this seemingly impassable obstacle to Recovery. Plus, we take calls from The Way Out Podcast audience on this week’s topic – you don’t want to miss a thing, so Listen Up!
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Along with Jason and Alex, I’m Charlie and we’ll be your hosts as we discuss the Recovery Power Topic, Spirituality in Recovery. So much of 12-Step recovery and faith based recovery programs involve the concept and actual practice of spirituality as it relates to the individual in Recovery. We give you a really useful, practical, and working definition of spirituality as well as deliver to you practical applications of spirituality in Recovery, as well as what spiritual bankruptcy looked like in our active addictions. Best of all, this week we take calls from The Way Out Podcast listeners who share their thoughts on Spirituality and Recovery. You don’t want to miss a second, so Listen Up!
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The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and this week, along side my co-hosts Jason and Alex we bring you an enlightening conversation on one of the single greatest four letter words in Recovery: hope. No doubt the vast majority of us whom have battled drug and alcohol addiction can readily identify with the reverse of this Recovery Power Topic, the absence of hope - hopelessness. Addiction and alcoholism systematically and progressively remove hope from our hearts, leaving in a seemingly, and I do stress seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. But alas there is hope for each and every one of us if we are in a place where we’re ready to grab onto it and chase it like we chased our next drunk or high. Hope let’s us know there’s indeed a way out of the awful place our disease puts us in. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and today I’m joined by my two new co-hosts Jason and Alex as we have an insightful and practical discussion on fear and recovery. We answer the question burning in every recovering person’s mind – exactly how many times does the word fear appear in the Book Alcoholics Anonymous and furthermore which chapter in the aforementioned text mentions the word fear most often? How did fear manifest itself amongst us in our own active addiction and more importantly how did we shed it in recovery? Perhaps most instructive, what do we do in practical application when fear crops up in our lives today? How do we recognize it, and what tools do we use to help us? We answer all of this and much more so Listen Up.
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This week I’m over the moon to have had the opportunity to have an engaging discussion with Rachel Grant. Rachel is an expert and survivor -check that – a beyond survivor of sexual abuse and has a powerful message of hope and recovery to share with us. Many of us in the recovery community have had sexual abuse in our own histories, or know someone who has. This special episode of The Way Out Podcast brings this subject to the fore, and offers a Way Out if you will, through Rachel’s Beyond Survival program of recovery. Listen Up. https://www.rachelgrantcoaching.com/freebies/
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The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host for Episode 96 with Annie. Annie talks candidly and openly about the three addictions she is in recovery from, over-eating, nicotine, and alcohol. We broach a subject not often spoken of in Recovery circles – Nicotine addiction is real and rather rampant in and around the rooms of recovery. Annie shares her unique perspective on how she recovered from her own three headed monster of addiction – Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for what turned out to be an outstanding interview with this week’s guest, Philip Andrew. Philip’s story is riddled with hard knock lessons and ripe with a struggle and triumph over tragedy I and many of you know all too well. Phillip shares his story in an authentic, humorous, and humble manner all the while dropping some serious spiritual truth – you don’t want to miss a minute y’all! So make sure you Listen Up!
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I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week as I bring you a powerful set of interviews from all stripes of Recovery who were having an absolute blast at a sober recovery bash. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week as I bring you a powerful interview with Keith Campbell – a person in long term recovery and the founder of the world’s fastest growing online recovering community – Sober & Serious. Keith shares some serious sober experience, strength, and hope with us, and his message of community and service truly resonates with those of us whom are struggling with alcoholism and addiction or are in recovery. Listen Up.
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This week I’m absolutely ecstatic about bringing you the Podcasting duo Meagan and Bob from The Addictionary Podcast. Meagan and Bob are father & daughter and are both persons living in long-term recovery from addiction. Their recovery stories are both inspiring and instructive, demonstrating through their lived experience, there are many pathways to meaningful and long-term recovery and that there truly is no substitute for living your truth. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week for an amazing interview with Amy LaBossiere. Amy is an Artist, Wife, Author and a woman in long term Recovery. Amy and her husband own Still Waters Retreat in Connecticut. Amy’s story is jam packed with spiritual truth, and her journey to through alcoholism and to recovery through her art is one I deeply connected with. Amy’s story is ultra-relatable and shines as a remarkable example of what alcoholism and recovery looks like. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week for the second part of our two-part series with my dear friend Raven. Raven shares how her addiction and alcoholism spiral into what turn out to be untenable extents, witnessing her then partner overdose in front of her six-year-old son and what it finally took for Raven, now seven years sober, to find fulfilling and enduring Recovery. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week as I bring you part one with my dear friend Raven, who shares her story of addiction, alcoholism and recovery in only the way she can. Raven’s matter of fact, tell it like it is style makes listening to her share on her story ultra listenable as she starts her story as a girl coming of age in Southern California. A child of divorce, Raven experienced the yin and yang of the wealth on one side and the meager one the other. Raven struggles with self-image, self-esteem, self-harm, sexual abuse and a progressive drug and alcohol addiction that completely enveloped her life. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host this week as we bring you part 2 of my discussion with John C Mabry. We pick up right where we left off last week as John describes how he rose to success in film and TV as his disease was taking him to unimaginable lows. John suffers another unimaginable and traumatic tragedy which takes him from the fame of Hollywood to near penniless living in a trailer before finding meaningful and lasting Recovery.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode, which is packed with spiritual truth from beginning to end. John Mabry’s journey to living in recovery and living in his self-described “truth” is a powerful lesson on the toll addiction and alcoholism takes on us; especially when denial and lack of acceptance of the true nature of our condition reign supreme. His insight on early childhood trauma is a welcome addition to those of us who have suffered similarly. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for Part Two of my conversation with Amy Dresner, Author of the compelling addiction memior “My Fair Junkie”. Amy and I pick up right where we left off last week as we dive her life now as a recovering addict & alcoholic, author, and frequent columnist and contributor to “The Fix”. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for part one of a two part series with former stand-up comedian and current author and contributor to The Fix – Amy Dresner. Amy has an absolute whale of a tale to share with us, which inspired her new book “My Fair Junkie” – a memoir on Amy’s turbulent and sometimes faltering path to meaningful and substantial recovery. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for part two of my interview with Eric, a loyal listener of The Way Out Podcast whom bravely shares his story with us. In part two, Eric shares how his alcoholism comes to a breaking point and his realization that he can’t stop drinking comes crashing down upon him; he knows of Alcoholics Anonymous by now and is finally willing to do whatever it takes to recover. Listen Up.
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The Way Out Podcast is on right now. I’m Charlie, and I’m thrilled to bring part one of Eric’s story, a story you’ll only find here, on The Way Out Podcast. Eric has an amazing story to share, and I found myself identifying with so many of the feelings, thought patterns, and behaviors Eric relates as he recounts his journey to Recovery and I know you will too. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’m thrilled as always to be your host for this week’s episode and the conclusion of my amazing discussion with legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete. Freddy’s heart condition resulting from his addictions begins to rear it’s ugly head and threatens to cut his life abruptly short. Listen as Freddy shares how frighteningly close he was to death and what it took to finally surrender to the God of his understanding providing the fertile ground from which his amazing Recovery began to grow. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for the first episode of a two part series with legendary tattoo artist Freddy Negrete. Freddy’s first years were marked by abandonment and abuse as he grew up in East L.A. in the heart of the Cholo Gang Sub-Culture. Freddy left his toxic foster home for good at 12 years old to join the Cholo gang of East L.A. full time. Art had always been Freddy’s calling from his early graffiti laden days giving rise to quickly becoming the most sought after black & grey realist in the world. Addiction was ubiquitous in gang lifestyle and Freddy was no exception; as he went into a decidedly downward spiral of heroin addiction. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode where we bring you part two of my amazing chat with Leeanne. Leeann’s story is so instructive in a great many ways; as she shares he first 13 years of recovery in a state of physical sobriety and emotional inebriety. Leeanne’s path was hard won, with lessons learned and spiritual and self-truths acquired while wondering in the often dark and foreign wilderness of sobriety. Listen Up.
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Leeanne has quite an amazing story & recovery journey. Growing up as an American in Saudi Arabia up until High School; attending boarding school in France and ultimately moving back stateside to attend Catholic School due to the chaos that accompanied the divorce of her parents. Leeanne’s Recovery journey is one of years spent spiritually asleep; marked by profound surrenders and awakenings; a true testament to the promises of Recovery coming sometimes quickly, and sometimes slowly. Listen Up.
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We pick up right where we left off last week; as Brandon shares his implausible journey to recovery, and the miracles that have transpired in his life since achieving substantial and meaningful recovery. Listen Up.
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The Way Out Podcast is on, right now. I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for a truly special episode with none other than Brandon Novak. Brandon’s early life was stamped indelibly through early family turmoil juxtaposed against his incredible and clearly God given skateboarding talents. Brandon’s rare and exceptional life fueled his self-described superiority complex; which turned out to be quite the perilous mix for this budding addict and alcoholic. Part one of our two part series is coming right at you. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for the second half of our two-part series we started last week. We pick up right where we left off; with our guest smack dab in the middle of a bit of a crises. His foster parents are worried he’s attending “too many” recovery meetings and is using them as an escape; that if he wishes to stay at their home he’s to be on a strict meeting allowance of two per week. These meetings are our man’s lifeline to sobriety and recovery; yet he isn’t particularly keen, as you might imagine, on the prospect of being homeless either. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host for this week’s episode as we partake in the first of a two part series with a very special guest; one I’m proud to call a friend and mentor in my own recovery. You’ll notice a number of elements typically included in the podcast conspicuously absent from this week’s and next week’s episodes. Most evident perhaps, is you will never hear our guest’s name uttered even once – a condition I only learned of moments before the interview began. Second; the length of sobriety accumulated by our guest never comes up – not because it was a condition of the interview; simply because the preference was for you – The Way Out Podcast Listener to identify with the story; not with the personality or with the length or lack thereof; of sobriety time. You’re in for an absolute treat in part one of my interview with; well – Just Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie, and I’ll be your host this week for part two of my discussion with Christopher Lee Falk. Christopher’s life is about to take a big U-Turn after his chance encounter with the “seen it all before in triplicate” detox nurse who dared to look Christopher straight in the eyes and asked him to promise he would show up for treatment; and show up Christopher did that very next day – which turned out to be the first day of the rest of his life. Listen Up.
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I’m Charlie and I’ll be your host for this week’s incredible episode, where we’ll hear part one of a two part series with Christopher Lee Falck. Christopher’s life was nearly over before it really even began as he suffered a traumatic accident while riding on the back of a Harley with his alcoholic father, whom would nearly end up killing his mother in another drunken accident a few short months later. Listen Up.
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This week I bring you my conversation with Laura L.; a dear friend of mine whom I met upon entering into recovery just over three years ago. Laura’s story provides incredibly instructive context into the discussion on bottoms in Recovery. With over 4 years of continuous sobriety; Laura shares how she not only recovered from Alcoholism; but also from the trauma of being an adult child of an alcoholic as well. Listen Up.
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On deck for you this week is part two of my interview with Amber Murphy, author of the brand new book Can’t Keep A Sober Girl Down. Amber shares how her self-described divine intervention compelled her to do something she would have never imagined herself doing – attending a local recovery meeting; and how that one meeting was the beginning of a profound spiritual awakening that continues to be a guiding force in Amber’s twelve years of continuous sobriety. Listen Up.
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I first met the guest of this week’s and next week’s episodes while on location with Omar Pinto of the Shair Podcast and was immediately struck by her authenticity, wisdom, and warmth as it emanated from her seemingly effortlessly. Amber has been in sobriety since November 7th, 2005 and her wealth of experience, strength, and hope is a testament to not only the duration of her sobriety, but the quality of her recovery. Author of Can’t Keep a Sober Girl Down and active member of her recovery community, Amber shares what her early life was like and how addiction and alcoholism gripped her family life before the disease took aim squarely at her own life. Listen Up.
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This week we bring you the first ever Game Show in the history of The Way Out Podcast. A continuation of our live interview with Omar Pinto – we play “Blasts from Podcasts Past”, which is an adapted form of classic radio turn TV hit “This is Your Life”. How well does “O” remember his Minnesota interviewees? Find out; and listen to Omar interact with people he’d never met in person until the of the show. Plus: 15 tips to stay sober this holiday season (http://thewayoutpodcast.blogspot.com/2017/11/15-tips-to-stay-sober-this-holiday.html) Listen Up.
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This week; with a heart over filleth with gratitude and joy I bring you a show featuring the incomparable Omar Pinto from the Shair Podcast. Omar, or “O” as many affectionately refer to him shares his story of addiction and Recovery with us in part one of our Two Part series with “O”, aptly titled; Get to know “O”. Omar tells his story in only the way he can; and I assure you – you don’t want to miss a word. Listen Up.
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This week; we diverge from the usual guest interview and have on tap for you a special episode on The difference between the program of the 12-Steps and the fellowship of the 12 Step organizations; including a review of often repeated meeting repertoire that can be out right dangerous to those whom are looking to recover from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. In addition we cover the difference between one who is in recovery versus one whom has recovered from their disease; an important distinction if there ever was one. My intent is not to lecture; only to share the truth behind the 12-Step program and cut through the misinformation that is spread like the noro-virus on a cruise ship. Listen Up.
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This week, I bring you my discussion with Seth H., who has three continuous years of recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism. Seth has a powerful story; and even more powerful message – he’s truly convinced there are no bottoms in addiction and alcoholism. After hearing his story, you’ll understand why. Listen Up.
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This week we bring you 4 outstanding interviews; all from artists who are in long term recovery from drug and alcohol addiction. In order of appearance you’ll hear from Joe Nester, Marcus Newman, REM One, and of course, Jam Alker. These interviews were recorded back stage before and during “A Call to Arms: 2nd Annual Benefit Concert for The Recovery House” at the Latvian in Chicago, Illinois. This episode contains more experience, strength, and hope than any episode to date and was by far the most fun I’ve had putting together a podcast since I started this 18 months ago. So get ready my brothers and sisters, you’re in for a serious infusion of Recovery.
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This week we recorded an amazing interview with musician and recording artist Jam Alker. Jam celebrates 3 years of continuous sobriety today; and our discussion covers the recovery waterfront in only the way a man like Jam can. Jam’s humility and spirituality is as infectious as his music; his experience, strength, and hope begs to be heard. Buckle up my friends; and Listen up. Don't forget! “A Call to Arms: 2nd Annual Benefit for the Recovery House” tonight at 7pm at the Latvian in Chicago! www.jamalker.com
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This week we’ve got part two of my interview with Megan Peterson. Megan’s fierce dedication to helping those whom suffer from drug and alcohol addiction is impossible to ignore; and “no excuses” attitude plays a big role in motivating her clients to go to any lengths to achieve sobriety. Listen Up.
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Megan has spent her entire life working in the field of addiction; and has tremendous insight into what it takes for lasting recovery to take hold in a person’s life. Megan is a one of a kind, and is truly passionate about bringing addiction counseling and therapy to anyone no matter their current circumstances. I hope you learn a thing or two from Megan – I sure did. Listen Up.
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Austin Shares how Sober Evolution evolved from a personal #recovery tool to a #sober community.
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This week we bring you part one of my interview with Austin Cooper of Sober Evolution. Austin is in his fourth year of continuous recovery and is the founder of the social media group Sober Evolution. Austin shares how a social media post shared by a friend first showed him that not only was recovery from alcoholism and addiction possible, but that recovery can bring that amazing life that to that point in Austin’s life had eluded him.
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This week I bring you the conclusion of my interview with Nikki Dubose, super model turned recovery and mental illness warrior. Nikki shares what it took for her to surrender to her would be terminal battle with addiction, alcoholism, and eating disorders; and found spirituality was the key to her recovery. Listen Up!
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This week I’m thrilled to bring you part one of my interview with Nikki Dubose; a former Super Model turned author, ambassador, and mental health & Addiction and Alcoholism recovery advocate. Nikki’s memoir “Washed Away: From Darkness to Light” is a stunningly honest and vulnerable account of her life. Nikki suffered unthinkable early childhood trauma; and soon after began a life and death battle with eating disorders, mental illness, alcoholism, and addiction.
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In Part Two, Gillian shares how she came to find meaning and true purpose in her life through the working of the 12 Steps.
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This week we’ve got the good fortune of hearing part one of my interview with Gillian P who’s six years of continuous sobriety has given her a new life; one that allows her to share her experience, strength, and hope to people in all stages of the recovery spectrum. Gillian originally hails from Cork, Ireland and lucky for us she’s maintained her accent despite being stateside for two decades. Listen Up.
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This week I have the wonderful opportunity to share my interview with Aaron; who has worked on the front lines of the Heroin Addiction epidemic as a counselor in a treatment center for teens. Aaron just celebrated 8 years of sobriety and has some serious recovery wisdom to impart on The Way Out Podcast audience. Listen Up.
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This week I bring you a conversation with Roger F on Vulnerability and emotional risk in recovery. The interview was recorded while traveling from Stillwater, MN to Minneapolis MN so you’ll hear the sounds of the road in the background – a perfect opportunity to use your collective imagination to envision yourselves in the back seat of The Way Out Podcast mobile listening to this impromptu recovery discussion. Listen Up.
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Tim Ryan; founder of the non profit recovery advocacy organization; A Man in Recovery and soon to be starring in A&E’s 1 hour special ‘Dope Man’ debuting July 31st which is a look at the day in the life of Tim Ryan tirelessly advocating for active addicts and alcoholics to get the treatment they need. Tim Ryan should be dead many times over; has been in prison and has endured would be suicide; a reality many of us know all too well. Tim Recovers out loud in a passionate and fierce manner and shares his story with us. Listen Up.
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Picking up right where we left off last week – in the height of Jackie’s active alcoholism. Jackie shares what it was like at the end of her drinking, and what it took for her to recover from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body.
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In Part One Jackie shares on what it was like growing up on a dairy farm in small town America, the eldest sibling of 3, the classic go-getter and self-proclaimed goody two-shoes who quote didn’t like to drink turned daily drinker jonesing for that first drink in the morning. Listen Up.
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Amanda shares her amazing journey of recovery the depths of meth addiction to becoming a best selling author.
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TJ shares how Sober Journey got started, how he found his higher power, and how that power has enabled him to not only recover himself, but help others to recover from their addictions. Listen Up.
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Sober Journey's TJ Skeith shares his journey to recovery in part one of our two part interview.
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Special Episode! Michael and Kenneth R. deliver powerful messages at the 2nd annual Sober & Serious BBQ.
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Special Episode! Jason R and Big Jim Downs deliver powerful messages at the 2nd annual Sober & Serious BBQ.
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Big Jim Downs is an amazing man, with an incredible story, and a huge heart. Jim is literally walking the walk - across America to raise awareness for addiction recovery.
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In part one, Michael shares how early childhood trauma and loss set the stage for life and death battle with addiction and alcoholism.
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In part two, Michael shares how he hit unimaginable physical and spiritual bottoms; and how the 12 Steps have brought some unexpected gifts.
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Best selling author of "The Twelve Step Warrior" Peter Skillen doesn't just live recovery; recovery lives in him...
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In Part 2, Travis shares how working the 12 Steps brought him to real change, so his sobriety date didn't have to.
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Travis shares coming up on St. Paul's east side as the kid that didn't fit in. That is until he discovered drugs and alcohol.
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The 1st Way Out Podcast Panel Discussion featuring Andrew B. & Roger F. on Expectations in Recovery.
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Jaclyn V shares her story of recovery and how she's recovering out loud with her Blog Sincerely Addicted with Depression and upcoming book.
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James shares how working the 12 Steps brought him lasting and meaningful recovery.
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James shares growing up in Sydney, his bout with bullying and his entry into alcoholism and addiction.
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This week, I'm sharing Part Two of one of the most influential speakers in my own recovery - Tom Brady Jr and his talk on emotional sobriety.
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This week, I'm sharing Part One of one of the most influential speakers in my own recovery - Tom Brady Jr and his talk on emotional sobriety.
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Michael finds his way out of more than just Cleveland, he finds The Way Out of addiction in part 2 of our interview with Michael.
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Michael wasn't supposed to make it out of Cleveland alive - hear part one of his story of recovery.
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Jason shares how he endured years of active alcoholism and addiction only to finally receive the miracle of recovery through the 12 Steps.
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Charlie L Open Talk March 4th, 2017 A Story of Fear and Recovery.
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This week, we’re blessed with the story of Bill L., who’s journey to recovery teaches us in large part how honesty – regardless of how imperfect and flawed it may be truly does set us free.
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Charlie shares that even in the worst days in recovery, there are things in which to be grateful.
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Traci shares her experience, strength, and hope born out of her journey to long-term recovery from alcoholism, heroin and methamphetamine addiction through the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.
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WM shares his experience, strength, and hope born out of his journey to long-term recovery from alcoholism and schizoaffective disorder and shares his new film "Autumn Shift"
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Christopher shares his experience, strength, and hope born out of his journey to long-term recovery from alcoholism and shares his most painful bottom - while IN recovery.
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Christopher shares his experience, strength, and hope born out of his journey to long-term recovery from alcoholism and discusses the differences between the fellowship & the program of AA
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Jane shares her experience, strength, and hope born out of her journey to long-term recovery from alcoholism and discusses her new book; A Beginners Guide to Spirituality
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Kathy shares her experience, strength, and hope born out of her journey to long-term recovery from drug and alcohol addiction.
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Bri shares her experience, strength, and hope born out of her journey to long-term recovery from drug and alcohol addiction
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Patricia shares her experience, strength, and hope born out of her journey to long-term recovery from drug and alcohol addiction
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Ruth shares her experience, strength, and hope on sponsorship and being a sponsee.
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Roger shares his journey through active alcoholism and addiction, as well as his experience after working through the first step of Alcoholics Anonymous.
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Esther shares her story of recovery, and how the practice of yoga brought about her recovery from alcoholism and addictdion
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Jessie shares his inspiration behind MySoberRoommate.com, and how it is changing lives for people in recovery
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Adriana shares her recovery journey and her new project, The Creative High.
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John battled fierce addictions to meth and cocaine, but it was his alcoholism that nearly killed him. Hear his story of triumph through surrender and the practicing of a spiritual way of life.
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Jamie's active addiction took hold early in life, where she found recovery at the age of just 16. Hear how she found long term recovery & what life is like for Jamie today
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Marc battled drug and alcohol addiction for 20 years, and it took everything from him - and nearly his life. How he recovered and what he's doing now with the gift of sobriety.
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Annie's Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Annie shares what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now. Annie grew up in a family riddled with addiction, and then faced the addiction of her own son, ultimately realizing that she needed to "Un-hook" and start working on herself.
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Sam's Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Sam shares what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now. Sam grew up in a family riddled with addiction & trauma, and then battled her own demons of addiction, low self-esteem, and self worth. A powerful story of recovery from the most adverse of circumstances and a true testament to the power of recovery.
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Jason's Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Jason shares what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now. Jason battled alcohol and lived through the crushing disease of his first wife's bi-polar disorder, which ultimately claimed her life. Jason's story of personal triumph and self discovery is truly a truly inspirational journey of a man who learned to embrace vulnerability, face fear, and recover.
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Buddy’s Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Buddy shares what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now. In recovery since 2008, Buddy relates how he works the principles of the program in his life, one day at a time.
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Mike’s Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Mike lost his brother at the age of 4, battled drug and alcohol addiction before entering recovery at the age of 21 – and has 37 years of continuous sobriety. His story is a true triumph of the human spirit, made possible through recovery and the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.
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Mike’s Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism. Mike lost his brother at the age of 4, battled drug and alcohol addiction before entering recovery at the age of 21 – and has 37 years of continuous sobriety. His story is a true triumph of the human spirit, made possible through recovery and the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.
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Matt R's Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism.
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Andrew B's Experience, Strength, and Hope. Recovery based podcast for those whom are recovering or dealing with addiction and alcoholism.
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Welcome. Thank you for joining us on the second installment of The Way Out. Sharing stories from people just like you who have recovered from alcoholism and other addictions. The Way Out does not speak on behalf of, nor are we affiliated with any 12-step organization. Our purpose is to share with you, one episode at a time, what it was like, what happened, and what it’s like now. This week we’ll be hearing from……Brian.
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Stories from people just like you whom have recovered from alcoholism and other addictions. Jeremy shares his experience, strength and hope.
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Jason A shares what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now.
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