Pointing Toward Hope: Recent Episodes
Wendy Bertagnolli
Pointing toward hope is a positivity filled podcast, for anyone seeking to find more hope and joy in daily life. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things. I certainly don’t have all the answers. But together we can change lives!Thanks for listening. Be sure to subscribe like and leave a review so that we can help as many people as possible. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast.
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What happens when God asks, "Do you love me with your heart, mind, and strength?" For Kristen Karchner, this question sparked a transformative spiritual journey that reshaped her relationship with mental health and divine connection.
For anyone struggling with mental health challenges or feeling disconnected from God, Kristen's story offers a refreshing approach focused on stillness, asking questions, and taking the smallest possible steps forward. Her journey reminds us that God crafts unique spiritual paths for each of us, meeting us exactly where we are with endless patience and love.
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A terrible car accident on a quiet October day in 1999 changed everything for Brad and Kami Wardle. When Brad was ejected from a vehicle while scouting hunting locations with his brother, the police report listed him as "presumed dead at the scene." With catastrophic injuries including a head injury, his survival seemed impossible.
Join us for this remarkable conversation about how faith can transform life's most challenging moments into opportunities for profound spiritual growth.
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Aubrey shares her powerful journey of healing after losing six family members to an act of violence. She reveals how she was able to find peace through faith, therapy, and service to others.
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Sylvia Rico shares her deeply moving journey of losing two sons to a rare genetic disorder and how she navigated the spiritual crisis that followed while eventually finding renewed hope and deeper understanding of God's love.*
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*Trigger warning: As mentioned above this episode does include talk of child loss.
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What happens when your missionary service becomes the catalyst for a profound mental health crisis? In this powerful conversation, Aubrey opens up about her journey serving in Guadalajara, Mexico, and the painful decision to return home after 14 months in the field.
With remarkable candor, Aubrey shares how undiagnosed anxiety and depression shaped her experience both before and during her mission. Though naturally gifted with Spanish and deeply devoted to sharing the gospel, she found herself increasingly trapped in destructive thought patterns following an emotionally abusive companionship that left her questioning her spiritual worthiness.
If you've ever felt spiritually inadequate during mental health struggles or questioned God's presence in your darkest moments, this episode provides a redemptive perspective that will illuminate your own path forward.
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How do you find hope when your mind feels like your enemy? Michelle's powerful journey from destructive behaviors and suicidal thoughts to healing through faith is truly remarkable.
Michelle's story explores how proper diagnosis (Borderline Personality Disorder-BPD and PostTraumatic Stress Disorder-PTSD), medication, therapy, and spiritual practices worked together in her recovery. She shares profound insights about the interconnection between physical and spiritual health, the power of priesthood blessings, and how making time with God her highest priority transformed her life.
Whether you're struggling with mental health challenges or supporting someone who is, this episode offers practical wisdom and spiritual encouragement. Michelle's testimony reminds us that with divine help, healing is possible even from the darkest places.
Faith a bond of Trust and Loyalty -Elder Sandino Roman
Spiritually Whole in Him-Camille N. Johnson
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*What happens when a child faces a lifelong disease? When Kristy Ashby's nine-year-old son Austin was diagnosed with Crohn's disease, their family's world turned upside down. What began with persistent hip pain and unexplained fevers led to a diagnosis that would forever change their lives, launching them into a world of hospital stays, expensive treatments, and difficult side effects.
Austin's journey through Crohn's disease reveals extraordinary resilience and faith. At just nine years old, when well-meaning friends suggested stronger prayer might cure his condition, Austin demonstrated wisdom beyond his years: "I already know it's not going to go away, but Heavenly Father is going to make it not so hard." This profound insight from a child's perspective reminds us that sometimes faith isn't about miraculous cures but finding strength to endure challenges with grace.
Connect with Kristy on Instagram @trail.tinker.bell to learn more about supporting families dealing with Crohn's disease.
*This episode is a repost from October 2020. Austin is now 21.
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In this episode we will be discussing how the marvelous light of the Lord can bring hope and peace into your life amidst the struggles of our day.
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Today the episode is all about finding and bringing a little more joy!
Elder Kearon's talk The Church of Joy
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In this Episode I am sharing the process of making music with my husband. How it started and how long it has taken, and things that happened along the way.
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In this week I share a personal experience about searching for my divine purpose and give some insights and resources into how we can battle the evils of our day that keep us from our divine purpose.
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In this episode my co-host, Joe and I talk about a few of the inspirational stories that we have had in our lives. The Lord calls out to us in many ways to let us know that he hears us and sees us individually. We hope that through these stories you will realize that He is there in the little and not so little, moments of your life. Even when you don't ask Him to be.
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On Todays podcast we are talking to Chris and Kelsey Poulsen. They talk about their personal experiences of going through Twin-Twin Transfusion Syndrome with their little boys. It is incredible how much they have gone through in the past few years. And are still learning, growing, and fighting every day. We were barely able to touch on the experiences that they had to go through in this short podcast. If you'd like to know more about Poulsens and their story you can find them on instagram at:
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In this episode I am sharing a few experiences that I have had while praying specifically on someone's behalf with them and for them. It is unique way to pray for people and I hope that you will feel the spirit and understand the importance of the "ONE" and what a sacred opportunity we have to minister to others through our prayers.
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This week I am so excited to introduce my good friend Haley Lemperle, an accomplished award-winning pianist! She talks about her experiences with music and how it has shaped her life and also shares a special arrangement that she composed. So much fun! You can find more information about Haley on her website https://www.freeportmusicstudio.com/ or @freeportmusicstudio on Instagram
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This Episode was kind of a practice run for Joe and I together. He will be hosting with me on occasion.
In this Episode we talk about what it was like for him being a support/Caretaker in my history with Bipolar. And we share a few things that you as a caretaker can do to help yourself while you are caring for your loved one.
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Welcome Back! It's been so long since we've chatted. Here is a little catch up and preview of episodes to come. I'm happy to be back and can't wait to hear from you. Be sure and like and post a rating or review, that sure helps the podcast get found!
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In this episode I am going to go over 5 things you can do now to lift the winter blues.
Elder Hales talk Out of Darkness into His Marvelous Light
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In this episode McKenna describes her experiences with severe anxiety and panic attacks and how she has been able to grow through her trials.
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In this episode I will share with you what I learned from losing my testimony and leaving the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
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I have been waiting for 2 years to interview our guest for today! I know that you will enjoy his conversions story. I hope you will check it out and see who I got to interview for this episode.
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Dusty Smith was converted to the church in his late teen years. He then encountered some "anti-mormons" and began a quest to find answers to questions that he couldn't answer. When he wasn't satisfied with those answers, he asked for his name to be removed from church records and became one of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints most outspoken anti- Mormon. for 26 years he fought against the church and it's members.
Until one day, after many miracles, his testimony came back and he returned to the church.
In today's episode, Dusty talks about his journey and some of the miracles he experienced along the way. Find out why he says it's so important to hold on your testimony.
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Today on the podcast I have my new friend, Bree Ingram. Bree has an incredible story of resilience and strength and overcoming addiction through the power of the atonement of Jesus Christ. I am excited to be able to share her story of addiction recovery with all of you!
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A quick episode on my thoughts for this week. Hope yours turns out amazing!
Elder Jeffrey R. Holland,
Tomorrow the Lord will Work Wonders
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Today on the podcast I have Catherine Picon who is a brain cancer survivor. She has an incredible story of strength through adversity to share. She was diagnosed when she was 35 weeks pregnant with her 5th baby. She is such an example of courage and faithfulness. The spirit was strong during our chat, you will love her!
"Do I Believe," Bonnie L. Oscarson
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Before I get into this week's episode I wanted to just express that this particular one will be vulnerable for me. And may be triggering for others. I will be giving a deeper, more in depth look at what I have experienced while living with mental illness and what led up to my diagnosis.
I am doing this because I have had many people that have questioned whether or not they themselves or possibly a friend or family member may need help.
It’s important to mention that some of the things that I discuss may be triggering or difficult for those that struggle with mental illness. So if that is you, you may want to either skip this episode, or come back to it later when you’re feeling up to it.
Also please remember that there is a new nation wide suicide and crisis hotline number “988” that you can call if you need help. If you or someone you know is suicidal or deeply depressed, please seek help from a medical professional, preferably a psychiatrist, who can help you assess your needs.
*If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through or are working through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast.
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This episode is something that I have’t done before but just felt compelled to do. I interviewed Nicole Wiley in September of 2020, a two time cancer survivor, right after I started the podcast. Over the last 2 years since that episode aired, Nicole has experienced trials of a different kind.
We have had so many good conversations about Christ, trials and just life so we thought it would be interesting to just record one of our conversations and kind of follow up on what’s going on with her. I think that you will laugh and cry and see a lot of what we all experience in the daily trials of life.
The song Nicole talked about "Blessings by Laura Story"
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Before I get into this week's episode I wanted to just express that this particular one will be vulnerable for me. And may be triggering for others. I will be giving a deeper, more in depth look at what I have experienced while living with mental illness and what led up to my diagnosis.
I am doing this because I have had many people that have questioned whether or not they themselves or possibly a friend or family member may need help.
It’s important to mention that some of the things that I discuss may be triggering or difficult for those that struggle with mental illness. So if that is you, you may want to either skip this episode, or come back to it later when you’re feeling up to it.
Also please remember that there is a new nation wide suicide and crisis hotline number “988” that you can call if you need help. If you or someone you know is suicidal or deeply depressed, please seek help from a medical professional, preferably a psychiatrist, who can help you assess your needs.
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Today on the podcast I have a special guest who is in the midst of an extremely difficult trial. She has been gracious enough to chat with me during this very vulnerable time in her life, in the hopes that what she and her family are going through can help someone else who may be in a similar situation, be able to draw hope and strength from our Savior.
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In this episode I will talk about how important it is to fill your cup first! And then how "All things shall work together for your good".
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Hey there! It's been a while. . .
I am still seeking people to interview. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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In today's episode I talk about seeing our trials from a different perspective. And how we can use them to refine us rather than define us.
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I am still seeking people to interview. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
Ellen W, Smoots talk April 2002 General Conference
Developing inner Strength
The Blacksmith video I talked about.
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In today's episode I talk about how our habits and the 1% gains can help us to better fight off the temptations of the adversary.
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I am still seeking people to interview. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
Peter M. Johnson’s talk from October 2019,
Power to Overcome Adversity
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In today's episode I talk about how our habits can help us to better learn how to #HearHim.
I will share a personal experience that helped me to get a glimpse at how the Lord can work to help each of us find ways to more fully hear what He needs us to hear on a more regular basis.
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I am still seeking people to interview. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
One percent better by Elder Michael A. Dunn
Hilary Weeks Live All In
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In today's episode I talk about how the Lord caters to the one (you!).
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I am still seeking people to interview. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I will be sharing the epilogue to the epilogue that I talked about last week. A synopsis of the things that have changed in my life since finishing the book.
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5 Habits for good mental health
Living with bipolar ll
Come in the door is open!
Today I will continue reading the book "Keep up the Pace". A book that I wrote several years ago. Today we will be reading Chapter 8. I am so excited that we have made it to the end. I have had such a good time sharing the way I felt years ago and the things that I was experiencing in that time. It has made me realize how far I've come and in some ways, habits that I need to re-adopt.
At the end of today's chapter I leave an Epilogue which was added a few years after the book was written. I would like to do an Epilogue to the Epilogue in the next few weeks where I share where I am at today and the things and ideas that have changed. So hopefully I can put that together soon!
Thanks so much my friends for tuning in and supporting me. It really means the world to me!
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Today I will continue reading the book "Keep up the Pace". A book that I wrote several years ago. Today I will be reading Chapter 7. Only 2 to go! In this chapter I share experiences I had while directing pageant contestants in the Miss Teen Utah International Competition.
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Today I will continue reading the book "Keep up the Pace". A book that I wrote several years ago. Today we will be reading Chapter 6. In this chapter we will be talking about positive energy and the benefits of surrounding yourself with the good.
Still seeking people to interview. Thanks for listening. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I will continue reading the book "Keep up the Pace". A book that I wrote several years ago. Today we will be reading Chapter 5. Only 3 to go! In this chapter I share an experience I had in the NICU with my fourth child.
Still seeking people to interview. Thanks for listening. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I will continue reading the book "Keep up the Pace". A book that I wrote several years ago. It's interesting to me how much I have changed, things have changed, since then. It's been super good for me to remember this time of my life.
Still seeking people to interview. Thanks for listening. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I will be reading from chapter 3 of the book I wrote back in 2007-08.
Still seeking people to interview. Thanks for listening. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I will be reading from chapter 2 of the book I wrote back in 2007-08.
Still seeking people to interview. Thanks for listening. If you or someone you know has a trial that you have been able to get through with the help of our Savior, please contact me so we can get you on the podcast. My goal is to reach as many people as we can to help them to overcome and find joy even in the midst of hard things.
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Today I am doing something a little different. Years ago I wrote a short book, a memoir of sorts. I never published it and don't really plan to. So I thought it might be fun to share it here. Today I will be sharing Chapter 1. I will intersperse these throughout the next few weeks.
But even if you don't like the book, stay tuned because I have some amazing interviews coming up. I can't wait for you to hear them!
Today Drew Young and I will be discussing anxiety and other mental illnesses, as well as bullying and being kind to others. We explore the definition of what your "mission" really means.
My special guest is Drew Young, author of The meaning of your mission and future book coming out August 10, Stand Guard at the door of your mind.
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Mrdrewbyoung InstagramDrew Young Facebook Links for Drew's books.The Meaning of your mission andStand guard at the door of your mind
In this episode I will be talking about my recent experience with living with bipolar. Hopefully this will help a lot of people better understand what those with mental illness and bipolar go through. And also those who suffer, get some ideas of things that may help you in your journey toward wellness.
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Living with Bipolar
GeneSight Psychotropic
In this episode I will be discussing the importance of choosing to be kind.
Bonnie L. Oscarson April 2014
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In this episode we will talk about choosing to find joy.
In Dallin H. Oakes’ talk “Opposition in all things”
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Today I will continue discussing agency and choices. Is agency free?
Russell M. Nelson in 1990
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This episode is an explanation of where I have been for the last 3 months and why. Also a little look into what people experience who live with bipolar ll. This week's subject is agency and choices.
D. Todd Christofferson’s
Free forever to act for themselves.
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Today I share an experience about learning to ride a bike.
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Today I will be talking about the power of letting the Lord's atonement work in your life.
Brad Wilcox
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Interview with Linda Larson Shlitz
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Today we will be talking about the rabbit effect.
Elder Gary E. Stevenson
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Today we will be talking about grace and the finishers touch.
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Today I will be talking about what it means to have the courage to stand for truth and righteousness.
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Today I will be talking about what it takes to have the courage to do you, and do it beautifully.
Donald L. Staheli
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Today I will share a personal story of having the courage to forgive someone that hurt you.
Gordon B Hinckley's talk
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Today I will sharing a story of great faith in overcoming a giant challenge.
Cambry Kaylor
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Today I talk about how to have the courage to move forward when all feels lost.
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We will wrap up this week with a look into the Bible and how to stay the course when the answers don't come.
Waiting on the Lord- Jeffrey R. Holland
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Today I will be talking about how we can draw near to the Savior.
President Nelson's talk
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Today I will be comparing rainbow jello to the gospel. How fun is that?
Sister Clyde's talk
Ribbon Jello recipe
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In this episode we continue our conversation about asking and receiving.
President Nelson's Talk
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Welcome to the new version of Pointing toward hope! PTH 2.0 lol. I will be discussing the new format and what will be happening here, moving forward. Then we will discuss our "daily dive". I will be talking about how to receive answers to your prayers by asking, seeking and knocking.
President Nelson's talk Ask, Seek, Knock
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An explanation of how things will be changing on Pointing toward hope moving forward.
I know that my redeemer lives song
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In this week's episode I talk about the loneliness and disconnectedness that we are all feeling and how that relates to mental illness and our Savior.
The Master Healer, President Russell M. Nelson
In this episode I talk about how you can make your home a bit of heaven on Earth.
Here are links to the app and the talks that I discussed.
Come Follow Me App
President Nelson April 2019
Dale G. Renlund
Today's episode is a vulnerable conversation about a sacred experience that I had. You can find transcripts of this episode on the blog here.
You can find the playlist "He Restores" that I talk about here.
If you or someone you know has an experience that might help and uplift someone (let's face it, we all have!), please contact me. I would love to chat with you and get you on the podcast so that you can share your experience.
This year will be a bit different than previous episodes. I will be sharing a lot of my personal thoughts in shorter and possibly even more frequent posts. We will just see how the year progresses. I am so excited to be back. Enjoy! And if you feel like it, leave a nice review, I would so appreciate it. Happy 2021 everyone.
This is the last episode of season 1! So crazy how fast that flew by.
On today's show I have several guests that will share their stories of overcoming something that ultimately ended up filling them with gratitude.
We will be back again after the holidays, but in between now and then I will be recording interviews for Season 2. So if you or someone you know has a story to share that you feel will benefit, lift, and help others find hope, please contact me ASAP. I would love to meet you, get to know you and get you on the show! Thanks for listening friends! And Happy Holidays! See you in 2021!
In this episode I talk about finding hope in this crazy chaotic world. I will share some stories from my experiences as a young mom with postpartum depression.
Info to find Kayla Stoecklein, who I quoted, on IG
Fear gone wild (kayla's book)
In this episode I will be talking about how to find your light again. When things seem dark and unending where do we turn to find our light? Listen in, and we'll talk about how.
Thomas S. Monson Be and example and a light
I this episode I talk about our hands being used through the Lord to weave light and love into other's lives when they may be in their darkest moments.
Dieter F. Uchtdorf - You are my hands
Carole Stephens- Master healer
The winning goal
In this episode my good friend Kenadee Ferguson and I are talking about what happens when things don’t turn out exactly how you planned. Have you ever felt that way? You had an idea of how things were supposed to go in your life and then something happens and all of sudden you are on a path that you never expected? Sometimes you can feel all alone in your struggles. But you're not....Pointingtowardhope.com If you or someone you know has a story to share that would help uplift and support others through their trials, please contact me at pointing toward hope.com or on Instagram at wendy bertagnolli**. I would love to share how you have found peace through faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you would like to reach out to Kenadee Ferguson, you can find her on Instagram @kenadee291**
In this episode I talk about the "waiting time" we go through when we are in the middle of a trial. And how to look forward and endure when it all seems too much.
Link to post here
Link to never ending song
Link to Elder Holland's talk
Link to President Nelson's talk
In this episode I'm talking about habits that can be adopted to improve your mental health both physically and emotionally.
Find links to transcripts here and here.
In this episode Kristy Ashby talks about her family's experience of her young son being diagnosed with Crohn's disease. Though this is an incurable disease, she talks of the challenges that came along with that diagnosis and how they have been able to get through it.
Pointingtowardhope.com If you or someone you know has a story to share that would help uplift and support others through their trials, please contact me at Pointingtowardhope.com or on Instagram at wendy bertagnolli. I would love to share how you have found peace through faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you would like to reach out to Kristy Ashby, you can find her at www.Instagram.com/trail.tinker.bell
To find out more about Crohn's or to donate to help find a cure click here
This episode is a conversation about the struggles of life and some ways that we can embrace the challenge and look to the Lord for our solace.
Transcript and links found on pointingtowardhope.com
Have you ever wanted to start a journal and just don't know where to start? Sharing it all in this episode.
This is a short trailer of what pointing toward hope is all about. Take a listen, if you love Jesus Christ and know that all things are possible through Him, then this podcast is for you!
Please note correction to scripture reference is Matthew 19:26.
As a young 19 year old, Nicole Wiley was diagnosed with cancer and lived to share her story. She went on to marry her husband of 25 years and together they have raised 4 children. She reigned as Mrs. Utah 2004, where she used her platform to encourage others to never ever give up. That would prove to be her test as she was diagnosed once again and had to overcome the challenge of cancer a second time. Now a 2 time cancer survivor, she shares her miraculous story of survival and what it means to look for the light of Christ on a daily basis.
In this episode I talk about my experience being diagnosed bipolar and the miracles that came along the way.