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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
The culmination of our fifth season encapsulates a profound exploration of growth through the lens of the Enneagram, revealing that true development demands a nuanced understanding of oneself and others. Throughout this season, we endeavored to showcase the diverse schools of thought within the Enneagram community, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking and the ability to hold complexity in our perspectives. The incomparable, Lee Fields joins us halfway through to give us her take on the season and illuminate the necessity for individuals to engage deeply with their own narratives while remaining open to the insights of others, thereby fostering an environment conducive to genuine growth. Together, we reflect on the journey we undertook, acknowledging the challenges faced and the insights gained, as we sought to create a lasting resource for our audience. As we transition into future endeavors, we remain committed to advancing the conversation surrounding the Enneagram, encouraging listeners to embrace both the rigidity and fluidity inherent in their personal growth journeys.
Big thanks to LEE FIELDS for joining us in this last episode. We love you Lee!
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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In Part 2, we unpack our thoughts on what the Enneagram teachers shared in our last episode. You'll hear us compare and contrast the models, and share what resonated with us, as well as what we'd like to see evolve, and we explore how we plan to synthesize all we've learned and carry it forward. We are so very grateful to our six teachers for their gift of time and knowledge, and their incredible generosity.
Mental Health Toolkit: Tools to Bolster Your Mood & Mental Health
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
As we begin wrapping up season 5, we're answering the question, "What now?" We've looked at all seven types through the lens of three influential models, but how do we actually apply it? As we say our goodbyes, we ask our six teachers how their models contribute to growth and transformation, as well as their hopes for the future evolution of the Enneagram.
Awareness to Action
Enneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
The focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Type Seven within the Enneagram framework, characterized by their intrinsic desire for excitement and aversion to emotional pain. We delve into the complexities of the Seven's experience, emphasizing the multifaceted nature of their personality, which is often misunderstood as superficiality. Through thoughtful discourse, we unravel the dichotomy of their vibrant exterior contrasted with the profound emotional depth they possess, often hidden beneath a facade of joy. By sharing personal anecdotes and insights, we aim to illuminate the rich inner world of Sevens, fostering a greater understanding of their motivations and challenges. The dialogue further encourages listeners to reflect on their own interactions and perceptions of this dynamic type, inviting a deeper appreciation for the nuanced layers that define the Seven's journey.
Human Interview: Milton Stewart
kaizencareers.com
Do It For The Gram Podcast
The Enneagram Institute
Type 7
The Narrative Enneagram
Type 7
Awareness to Action
Type 7
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
The salient focus of our discourse today revolves around the exploration of Type 6 within the Enneagram framework, characterized predominantly by a quest for security and an instinctive response to perceived threats. Throughout this episode, I engage with nine distinguished speakers, each contributing unique insights into the complexities that define this personality type. We delve into the dual expressions of Type 6, namely the phobic and counterphobic tendencies, highlighting how both seek safety albeit through divergent methodologies. The conversation further touches upon the intrinsic relationship between fear and courage, elucidating how these emotions coexist and inform the behaviors of Type 6 individuals. As we navigate these profound themes, our aim is to foster a comprehensive understanding of Type 6, encouraging listeners to reflect on how these dynamics may manifest in their own lives and in their interactions with others.
Human Interview: Ben Campbell
Website
Awareness to Action
Type 6
The Enneagram Institute
Type 6
The Narrative Enneagram
Type 6
Awareness to Action
Enneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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The focal point of today's discourse revolves around the Enneagram Type Five, characterized by their profound inclination towards detachment and observation as a means of navigating an overwhelmingly stimulating world. We delve into the complexities inherent in the Five’s experience, particularly emphasizing their heightened sensitivity, which often compels them to create emotional distance from their surroundings. Throughout our dialogue, various participants elucidate the nuances of the Five's emotional landscape, shedding light on the intricate interplay between intellect and feeling that defines their existence. Additionally, we reflect upon the common misconceptions surrounding Fives, particularly the notion that they are devoid of emotion, highlighting instead their rich internal life and the necessity for connection. As we progress, we invite listeners to consider how understanding Type Five can foster deeper empathy and insight into their own experiences and those of others.
HUMAN INTERVIEW: Melissa Kircher
Website
Ticktok
The Enneagram Institute
Type 5
Awareness to Action
Type 5
The Narrative Enneagram
Type 5
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
In this special collaborative episode with Do It for The Gram, the International Enneagram Association Podcast and Fathoms, Milton Stewart is joined by Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields as they preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.
The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.
Milton's Links and Handles:
Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.co
The B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com/application
Milton's Website: KaizenCareers.com
Upcoming Events: kaizencareers.com/upcoming-events
IEA Links:
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com
IEA Podcast: international-enneagram.captivate.fm
Connect with Creek:
Instagram: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B
Connect with Lindsey:
IG: @lindseyfaithdm
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Connect with Lee:
Web: enneagrammatic.com
IG: @enneagrammaticAwareness to Action
Enneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
The focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type Four, often perceived as the individualistic or romantic type, characterized by a profound longing for identity and uniqueness. Our discussion delves into the complexities of the emotional landscape of Fours, emphasizing their capacity for creativity and introspection, as well as the challenges they face with feelings of inadequacy and longing for connection. Throughout the episode, we engage in a rigorous examination of how Fours navigate their emotional depths and the societal perceptions that often label them as overly sensitive or melancholic. The insights offered by our guests illuminate the paradoxes inherent in the Four's journey—balancing the pursuit for meaning with the acceptance of the mundane aspects of life. Ultimately, we aim to foster a deeper understanding of Type Fours, inviting listeners to appreciate the rich and nuanced experiences that define this unique personality type.
Human Interview: Stephanie Spencer
WEBSITE
stephaniejspencer.com
BOOKS
Out of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of Nature
Beyond Your Number
Awareness to Action
Type 4
The Enneagram Institute
Type 4
The Narrative Enneagram
Type 4
Jerry Seinfeld on writers block
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
This podcast episode delves into the complexities of the Enneagram Type 3, also known as "The Achiever." We explore the dichotomy of striving for excellence while grappling with the inherent anxieties of performance and recognition. A special guest, Vanessa Fernandez, shares her personal journey in understanding her threeness, articulating the challenges of balancing ambition with authenticity. Throughout the discussion, we highlight the often-overlooked emotional depth and relational dynamics of Type 3 individuals, emphasizing that their drive for success is not merely superficial but deeply intertwined with their sense of self-worth. As we navigate these themes, we encourage listeners to reflect on their own experiences and perceptions surrounding achievement and recognition.
HUMAN INTERVIEW: Vanessa Fernandez
WEBSITE
Enneagramworkshop.com
PODCAST
The Enneagram Workshop Podcast
The Enneagram Institute
Type 3
The Narrative Enneagram
Type 3
Awareness to Action
Type 3
Awareness to Action
Enneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
The primary focus of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type 2, often referred to as "the Helper." We delve into the intricacies of this type, examining the motivations that drive individuals characterized by this type to seek connection and affirmation through their relationships with others. In particular, we scrutinize the potential for mistyping, as Type 2s may exhibit traits that overlap with other Enneagram types, such as Sevens and Nines, leading to confusion in self-identification. The conversation further highlights the emotional nuances and inherent challenges faced by Type 2s, including the struggle with boundaries and the tendency to prioritize others' needs over their own. Throughout our discourse, we aim to provide listeners with a deeper understanding of the complexities of Type 2, offering insights that may facilitate personal growth and interpersonal dynamics.
Human Interview: Hunter MobleyLetting Go, Finding You: Uncover Your Truest Self through the Enneagram and Contemplation
Forty Days on Being a TwoThe Narrative Enneagram - Type 2
The Enneagram Institute - Type 2
Awareness to Action - Type 2Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
The focal point of this podcast episode is a thorough exploration of Type One in the Enneagram, often referred to as the "Reformer" or "Perfectionist." This discussion encompasses the characteristics of Type One, such as their principled nature, commitment to integrity, and the relentless pursuit of improvement. Throughout the dialogue, we delve into the intricate dynamics of the inner critic that Ones frequently experience, highlighting how this internal voice shapes their actions and interactions. Additionally, we examine the manifestations of their striving for perfection, noting the balance between their desire to reform and the acceptance of imperfection in themselves and others. As we engage with various speakers, we endeavor to provide a comprehensive understanding of the One's journey, emphasizing their inherent warmth and altruism beneath the surface of their idealistic aspirations.
Human Interview: Micky ScottBey Jones - Website
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Lee Fields joins as Lindsey discusses the realization that she was mistyped as a Type Two. This conversation highlights that identifying an Enneagram type is a lot harder than people think, so mistyping can happen. Initially thinking she was a Type Two, Lindsey shares why she thought she fit into this type and how learning that she's in fact a different type has helped her grow as a person.
Lee Fields - Enneagrammatic
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
In our discourse on Enneagram Type Nine, we collectively unpack the layers of the Peacemaker's identity, guided by the insights of my fellow speakers. We begin by defining pivotal terms such as 'type', 'strategy', and 'pattern', which serve as foundational concepts for our exploration. The conversation transitions into examining how Nines often embody a facade of peace while grappling with underlying anxieties and fears. This dichotomy is crucial, as it reveals the struggle for authenticity that many Nines face. Each speaker contributes unique perspectives on the Nine's journey of self-discovery, articulating the balance between maintaining external harmony and asserting personal significance. We also reflect on how Nines may inadvertently suppress their own needs to avoid conflict, ultimately leading to feelings of frustration and invisibility. This episode provides a compelling narrative that underscores the importance of self-acceptance and the courage it takes for Nines to assert their voices within a world that often overlooks them.
Caryn Berley* carynberley.com * Enneagram Invitations * Enneagram Typecast Podcast * Somatic Enneagram Podcast
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
This episode delves into the intricate dimensions of the Enneagram Type 8, characterized by its assertive and dynamic nature. We engage in a profound discussion with Mandy Capehart, who shares her personal insights and experiences, illuminating the complexities of navigating grief and power in relation to this type. Mandy, alongside the three esteemed educators from various Enneagram schools, enriches our understanding by articulating how Type 8 individuals embody strength, yet are often misperceived as solely aggressive. Our conversation traverses the nuanced interplay of empathy and directness, revealing how Type 8s can wield their inherent power not merely through control, but through fostering connection and support for others. This episode ultimately serves as an exploration of the transformative potential within Type 8, encouraging listeners to reflect upon their own relationships with power and vulnerability.
mandycapehart.com
Restorative Grief by Mandy Capehart
TYPE 8
The Narrative Enneagram - type 8
The Enneagram Institute - type8
Awareness to Action - type 8
CENTERS
The Narrative Enneagram - centers
The Enneagram Institute - centers
Awareness To Action - why we don't teach them
WINGS
The Enneagram Institute - wings
The Narrative Enneagram - wings
Awareness to Action - what did you do with the wings?
LINES
Awareness to Action - neglected & support strategies
The Narrative Enneagram - stress & security
The Enneagram Institute - growth & stress
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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The core focus of this episode revolves around the intricate dynamics of the instincts, or instinctual biases within the Enneagram framework, specifically addressing the distinctions between the various schools of thought on this subject. We examine the varying perspectives offered by our esteemed teachers, highlighting how these biases or drives can influence behavior and interpersonal relations, while also considering their implications for personal development. As we engage in this multifaceted conversation, we invite listeners to reflect on their own experiences and observations regarding these instinctual drives, as they are essential in shaping our interactions and self-perceptions. Ultimately, we aim to illuminate the complexities and provide clarity on how the instincts can be harnessed for greater self-awareness and growth.
Resources:
The Narrative Tradition - https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/programs/instincts-subtypes-3/
The Enneagram Institute - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/how-the-enneagram-system-works/#h-the-three-instincts
Awareness to Action - https://awarenesstoaction.com/our-instinctual-biases-three-patterns-of-attention-and-values-and-how-they-shape-the-way-we-work/
IEA Pod: Exploring the Instincts & Subtypes pt 1
IEA Pod: Exploring the Instincts & Subtypes pt 2
IEA Pod: Exploring the Instincts & Subtypes pt 3
Cognitive Bias Resources - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias
Logical Fallacies - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
Science Books
“Behave” by Robert Sapolsky
“Social Chemistry” by Marissa King
7 ½ Lessons About the Brain” by Lisa Feldman Barrett
“The Selfish Gene” by Richard Dawkins
“Basic Instinct: The Genesis of Behavior” by Mark S. Blumberg
“A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century” by Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein
Don't Forget a Huge List of Resources Recommended by Fathoms and Our Teachers!
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Found HERE
Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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This podcast episode delves into the rich and complex history of the Enneagram, highlighting its origins and the various schools of thought that have shaped its understanding today. The conversation explores how the Enneagram serves as both a tool for personal growth and a map for navigating human experiences, emphasizing the importance of historical context in shaping contemporary interpretations. Key figures such as Oscar Ichazo, Claudio Naranjo, and the founders of the Riso Hudson Institute are discussed, illustrating their contributions to the Enneagram's development as a personality model. The hosts and guests reflect on the significance of integrating historical narratives with personal experiences, urging listeners to recognize the fluidity and evolving nature of this ancient wisdom. With insights from various experts, this episode encourages a deeper understanding of how historical perspectives inform present practices in the Enneagram community and our daily lives.
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Resources
Podcast Episodes:
- Milo Rossi & Flint Dibble - Bridges Podcast (The Importance of Accurate History)
- The Art of the Unknown - Hidden Brain (History is super complex)
- The Enneagram in the Narrative Tradition - “Spotlights on Helen Palmer”
- Where Did the Enneagram Come From Pt 1 - Mario Sikora
- Where Did the Enneagram Come From Pt 2 - Mario Sikora
- The Dawn of the Enneagram with Russ Hudson - Totem Podcast
Articles:
The Six Enneads
Evagrius Ponticus
George Gurdjieff
Sarmoung Brotherhood
Oscar Ichazo
Claudio Naranjo
The origin of the Enneagram - Claudio Naranjo speaks - June 2010
Letter to the Transpersonal Community - by Claudio Naranjo
Hidden in Plain Sight - Helen Palmer
Mythmaking and the Evolution of the Enneagram of Personality, Part 1 - Mario Sikora
"Nature and Nurture: Acquiring an Enneagram Type,” - Dr. David Daniels
“The Narrative Tradition” - Helen Palmer
The “Levels of Development” - Don Richard Riso
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Awareness to Action
Enneagram on Demand - Certification Program
Mario Sikora:
IG: @mariosikora
TikTok: @mariosikora
Web: mariosikora.com
Substack: mariosikora.substack.com
Maria Jose Munita:
IG: @mjmunita
Web: mjmunita.com
Podcasts:
Awareness to Action
Enneagram in a Movie
The Narrative Tradition
Terry Saracino:
Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/
Christopher Copeland:
Web: illuminatingpaths.com
Narrative Podcasts:
Heart of the Enneagram
The Somatic Enneagram
From Armor to Ease
The Enneagram Institute
Gayle Scott:
Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.com
Michael Naylor:
Web - enneagrammaine.com
You Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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Season five of the podcast marks an exciting new chapter as the hosts dive deep into the Enneagram, exploring its nuances through the lens of three primary schools of thought: the Riso Hudson School, the Narrative Enneagram, and the Awareness to Action approach. This season aims to clarify the often-confusing landscape of Enneagram teachings, offering listeners a resource that distinguishes between various interpretations and encourages critical thinking. The hosts, including Creek, Lindsey, and Abram, share personal insights and updates about their lives, emphasizing the importance of curiosity and openness in understanding the complexities of human behavior. Listeners can expect longer, biweekly episodes filled with engaging conversations and opportunities for interaction. With a focus on creating a clear and accessible framework, this season promises to enrich both newcomers and seasoned enthusiasts alike in their Enneagram journey.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Work for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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Join us January 16th for our biggest season yet! In true Fathoms form, we'll be diving into EVERYTHING Enneagram! This will be the first and only stop for everyone trying to get a taste of all things Enneagram, from the history, types, and the most important growth! You'll get to hear from legendary teachers, from different schools, your fellow nerds of all walks of life and of course, plenty of cackling and practical content from your hosts, Abram, Lindsey and Creek! Check below for links to stay connected and support so the content can reach as many people as possible!
Thanks to Christian McClain for his use of his incredible song “Older”
Check out his new EP here!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Work for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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Drew's departure from the Fathoms podcast marks a significant transition for everyone involved, as they reflect on the challenges and growth that come with saying goodbye. Throughout the conversation, Drew shares his journey of reinventing himself after losing his job and the emotional complexities that accompany such a change. The team discusses the importance of acknowledging loss and the value of maintaining connections, even when circumstances evolve. They explore how transitions can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of one's identity beyond professional roles. As they reminisce about their shared experiences, the group emphasizes gratitude for the influence and camaraderie they’ve built over the years, affirming that while goodbyes can be painful, they also pave the way for new beginnings.
One of Drew's Favorite Episodes: Conversation | Grief, Hope, & Kindness with Leslie Hershberger
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Work for Unserious Humans
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Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership Community
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks
Production/Editing: Liminal Podcasts
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
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Leslie Flood Hershberger joins the Fathoms podcast to discuss the Enneagram and its profound implications on personal development, particularly in the context of navigating the second half of life. The conversation begins with Leslie reflecting on her own journey with the Enneagram, a tool she originally approached to better understand those around her—her family, students, and colleagues. As she delved deeper into the Enneagram, Leslie discovered that the true work lies not merely in categorizing personalities but in fostering a genuine presence and awareness of oneself. This shift from a superficial understanding of the Enneagram to a more intimate exploration of personal growth marks a significant evolution in her practice.
Throughout the episode, Leslie emphasizes the importance of acknowledging the complexities of life transitions, particularly as one ages. She discusses how the second half of life often invites individuals to confront their shadows—the parts of themselves they have repressed or neglected. This process is not just about facing discomfort but also about embracing regrets and recognizing their role as teachers. Leslie draws on her extensive experience, highlighting that the journey is unique for everyone; some may begin their second half of life work in their 30s, while others may not engage with it until much later. The deep emotional and spiritual insights shared by Leslie provide listeners with a framework for understanding their own experiences of growth, loss, and transformation.
The episode culminates in a rich discussion about the three centers of intelligence: the head, heart, and body. Leslie proposes a re-evaluation of how these centers are perceived in relation to the Enneagram, suggesting that the body center, often overlooked, is crucial for understanding our instinctual responses. She argues that true emotional connection can only occur when we ground ourselves in our physical sensations and feelings. This perspective not only deepens the understanding of the Enneagram but also serves as a call to action for listeners to integrate these centers into their personal development practices, highlighting the importance of somatic awareness as a gateway to authenticity and presence.
Takeaways:
- Leslie Flood Hershberger emphasizes that the Enneagram serves as a tool for self-discovery and personal growth throughout various life stages.
- The conversation highlights the importance of integrating emotional awareness into the practice of the Enneagram, especially as one ages.
- Understanding the distinction between emotional experiences and somatic feelings can enhance personal transformation work.
- In the second half of life, individuals are often asked to let go of attachments that no longer serve them, leading to deeper self-awareness.
- Leslie shares insights on how grief and loss profoundly shape one's journey into the second half of life.
- The podcast underscores that shadow work can be a powerful portal for personal growth and healing, revealing hidden aspects of ourselves.
Links referenced in this episode:
- lesliehershberger.com
- enneagramshop.com
Support our podcast:
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@fathoms.enneagram
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In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type.
[2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions
[8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram
[12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book
[17:16] Defining type and why is understanding that you’re more than and not just your type is important for your growth
[25:37] How Sandra’s strengths show up as she wrote her book
[29:19] The dualities of the types
[41:39] This yearning to open ourselves to more of what we are
[47:21] Prompt for each type to help them reframe and move beyond their own limited perspective
[52:24] Why we should buy Sandra’s book and where they can buy it
Follow Sandra’s work: Alchemy Works // @sandrasmithalchemyworks // Heart of the Enneagram Podcast // “The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type”
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
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Here’s Part 2 of our Season Finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts.
Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better.
[2:00] How can we move forward with these terms despite the issues?
[13:05] Ego & Essence as bypassing
[19:05] It’s about the process, not a destination
[24:00] Individuality, Mutuality, & Unity in relation to ego and essence
[31:35] Russ’ and Mario’s closing remarks for people using the enneagram
[35:40] The Fathoms Cohosts provide their initial reactions to the conversation
[45:05] How we’ll use the terms “ego” & “essence” moving forward
[60:00] Abram shares a story
[1:01:00] Linz hands out podcast awards to the guys
[1:05:30] Why we do this podcast
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
It’s here! Part 1 of our season finale: Revisiting Ego & Essence. To end our season, we have a deep and meaningful conversation with enneagram legends Russ Hudson and Mario Sikora on these often used, often misunderstood concepts.
Lee Fields joins the Fathoms crew for this conversation, which always makes us better.
[1:00] A quick recap of this season
[5:30] We talk about (and cringe a bit) our Season 1 episode on Ego & Essence
[12:30] Lindsey’s thoughts about the first episode as a listener
[14:15] Our thoughts behind ending the season with the topic of Ego & Essence
[18:50] Some tips listening to this conversation with Russ & Mario
[23:00] Our conversation with Russ & Mario begins
[25:15] What’s the conversation we need to have today about ego & essence?
[27:45] Having beginner’s mind with ego & essence?
[28:50] Russ & Mario’s first meeting…and first impressions!
[30:45] Their common fascination with zombies
[32:50] What Russ and Mario admire about each other’s enneagram work
[35:45] Russ and Mario’s definition of “ego” and “essence”
[45:00] Examples of how they’ve changed their minds on ego and essence
[55:30] How Mario interprets Russ’ view of ego and essence
[1:00:00] Russ on “essence”
[1:08:00] Mario’s problems with the term “essence”
[1:11:45] Why are still using these words in these ways?
[1:18:45] Lindsey pushes back a bit
Stay tuned for Part 2 of our conversation with Russ & Mario next week!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Today we debrief our three-episode series on trauma. If you haven’t listened to those interviews with Sharon K. Ball, Dr. B, and Miles Adcox, be sure to check them out! We also talk about our next episode, where we revisit the concepts of ego and essence. In that episode we’re joined by enneagram legends Mario Sikora and Russ Hudson!
[2:00] Reflecting on our conversation with Sharon K. Ball, including her 3 m’s: movement, meaningful connections, mindfulness
[5:20] Reflecting on our conversation with Dr. B, including “resilience is not random.”
[14:00] Reflecting on our conversation with Miles Adcox, including his thoughts on projection between therapist and client
[19:40] Setting up our next episode, revisiting Ego and Essence. What we still think, how we’ve changed our views, etc.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Today we finish our series of conversations on trauma and personhood with Miles Adcox. He is the Chairman and Owner of Onsite, an internationally-known emotional wellness lifestyle brand that delivers life-changing personal growth workshops, digital mental health master classes, emotionally smart leadership retreats, and residential emotional wellness and trauma treatment. Miles’ work at Onsite has been featured on 20/20, Good Morning America, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Dr. Phil Show, The Doctors, People, Billboard, Marie Claire, and NOW FATHOMS | AN ENNEAGRAM PODCAST!
[1:45] Lightning round questions to get to know Miles
[7:50] What is mental health and emotional wellness?
[10:00] How does Miles approach his work amid the rise of pop psychology?
[17:00] Miles’ cautions regarding the pitfalls of self-help/personal development
[21:00] On “crescendo culture” and the success of Onsite
[27:15] Miles’ talks about Internal Family Systems theory
[30:05] Some practical advice: The 20/10/5 list
[33:30] On clean and dirty pain
[42:10] What should be in our “trauma kit”?
[48:30] Miles’ own experience as a father
[56:15] A current challenge Miles is facing
[58:30] What Miles has to say to mental health professionals and other helpers
Follow Miles at www.milesadcox.com // www.experienceonsite.com
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
We continue our series on trauma and personhood with another conversation with Dr. Kristin Beasley. Dr. B is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma and early childhood development. Dr. B helps us clarify terms such as “victim” and “victimhood.” She provides practical insight on how to more compassionately work with those who have experienced trauma and is a wealth of wisdom on cultivating resilience.
[1:00] What is victimhood?
[3:40] The difference between states and. traits
[9:20] Resilience is not random
[10:00] A more compassionate response
[14:50] On true Victim/victimhood and the limits of the terms
[23:40] For those who struggle to acknowledge their victimhood
[33:00] Dr. B’s problem with the “hood” in “victimhood”
[37:30] Resilience starts in the front end of life
[38:30] If Dr. B were president…
[42:15] Developing resilience and respecting those who struggle
[55:45] What we can do to cultivate resilience (in ourselves and in those we help)
Follow Dr B’s work: https://www.drbconnections.com/ [trauma-informed care and resilience training!]
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this first episode on trauma, we interview Sharon K. Ball. Licensed therapist and enneagram professional who specializes in trauma and the enneagram. Sharon is the author of Reclaiming You: Using the Enneagram to Move from Trauma to Resilience.
[1:10] Abram asks Sharon for her “top strength in her Myers-briggs finder” (?)
[2:00] Clarifying some terms: trauma and resilience
[4:15] The 4 Types of Trauma: Chronic, Insidious, Acute, & Complex
[9:30] Big T vs. little t trauma
[12:00] How important is it to label one’s type of trauma?
[16:10] The difference between a stressful experience and a traumatic one
[22:30] On being trauma informed…and not reducing people to a type
[27:40] Finding specific practices for our type
[29:45] The triad of resilience/trauma resolution
[33:00] The difference between an enneagram type as a coping strategy vs. a trauma response.
[36:20] How knowing your type can engage your trauma work
[39:05] How can we honor each other and arrive at a greater sense of unity?
Follow Sharon’s work: @sharonkball // www.ninepaths.com
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we reflect upon our recent conversation with singer/songwriter Andy Squyres. If you haven't listened to that episode, go check it out and then come back and reflect with us. We look forward to our next topic, trauma and personhood.
Andy’s Instagram post that inspired our conversation: https://www.instagram.com/p/CgUkgrYOn6M/
Follow Andy’s work at https://andysquyres.com/ and listen to his music!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we’re joined by singer/songwriter Andy Squyres (or “song doula” to Linz). Andy is a brilliant creative and a deep thinker who challenges our assumptions about the enneagram and the broader self help world. Andy is familiar with the enneagram but by no means a practitioner. He’s the perfect guest to share much needed perspective about this work we care about so much. His observations and critiques are important for all who use the enneagram. Stick around to the end of this episode, where Andy reads an Instagram post he wrote that inspired our conversation.
[2:00] Creek sets up the conversation on challenging our labels and identities with compassion & Andy’s role as a critic
[5:45] Universal ache and faith deconstruction
[10:15] On the tension of pursuing redemption and when to draw boundaries
[18:00] Andy’s critiques and observations of the self help community
[24:15] On the perils of the enneagram’s popularity
[27:30] Our inability to hold multiple possibilities at the same time
[30:00] On the benefits of being on the outskirts of the enneagram world.
[32:00] On the tension of personal growth and learning to appreciate what simply is
[39:50] Subversion vs. aggression in challenging assumptions
[51:00] On being authentic
Andy’s Instagram post that inspired this conversation: https://www.instagram.com/p/CgUkgrYOn6M/
Follow Andy’s work at https://andysquyres.com/ and listen to his music!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we have the second of our 2 part conversation with enneagram author and teacher Clare Loughrige. Lindsey talks with Clare about the aging process and how it impacts the dynamics of personhood, especially the “Third Act” of life. Stick around to the end of this one, as Clare provides a specific encouragement for each type and a profound meditation on our futures.
[0:40] The most productive years of our lives…it’s later than you think
[6:05] On fear about growing older
[16:40] Your enneagram type’s various expressions in different seasons of life
[22:00] The wisdom and power of wrinkles to free people
[25:00] The biases against aging
[29:30] An encouragement for each enneagram type in the third act of life
[37:30] Clare leads us through a meditation for our futures . . . our third acts.
Follow Claire’s work: scottandclareloughrige.org. And buy her books!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we have the first of an incredible 2 part conversation with enneagram author and teacher Clare Loughrige. We talk to Clare about the aging process and how it impacts the dynamics of personhood, especially the “Third Act” of life. Have a listen and be on the lookout for part 2 of this series later this week.
[1:40] How Western culture exalts youthfulness, and what to make of this in light of the enneagram’s popularity.
[4:30] The reduction of the enneagram to listicles and the vast wisdom the enneagram truly provides
[6:45] The challenge and the possibility of introducing the enneagram too early.
[7:50] The transition from mentee to mentor
[10:00] The key questions of life’s Third Act
[12:50] Clare’s crash and burn moment
[17:45] The fragility and wisdom that comes with being nearer to death
[24:10] Discussing the “Third Acters” potential for growth and transformation
[29:15] On FLOW in the Third Act of life
Follow Claire’s work: scottandclareloughrige.org. And buy her books!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, the Fathoms co-hosts, are joined by Lee Fields and Milton Stewart to celebrate Fathoms’ 100th episode and to announce and exciting new partnership with the IEA as temporary hosts of the International Enneagram Association Podcast for this year’s global conference. Listen as they all share what this year’s theme, “Unite & Ignite,” mean to them within the Enneagram community and what they are most looking forward to at the conference.
“I love the Enneagram because it’s a tool for liberation.” - Milton [02:41]
“In relation to what we’ve been building for the past three years of Fathoms, how wide and complex it is to be human, and how the Enneagram is such a beautiful tool to help us navigate that, and I’m looking forward to adding more complexity and seeing how the Enneagram stands up” -Creek [14:16]
“Why is there this factioning, why is there this othering between the new guard and the old guard? What’s up? And it seems like it could be fixed with two lines of dialogue. What needs to happen? And I don’t believe that I’m the secret sauce that’s going to fix all of that, but I believe that naming it and doing something about it and striving to have connections between people is going to be the thing that’s going to do it.” -Lee [19:31]
“Especially in the Enneagram space, we spend so much time looking at ourselves and I feel like this is an opportunity to really look each other in the eye and to see one another more clearly.” -Lindsey [23:34]
“When I think of these United & Ignite, it makes sense to me that we have to come together to experience the fire.” -Abram [30:22]
“I think some of the most meaningful conversations I’ve ever had have been around a campfire and I think that’s a good way to approach a conference like this. It’s kinda like a global campfire of Enneanerds and Enneagram professionals.” -Drew [31:52]
TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Intro
[01:05] This week’s hosts
[04:59] Icebreakers
[12:13] Most excited at the IEA conference
[21:08] What unite and ignite means
[33:38] Rapid fire questions
Connect with us:
IEA2023.com
Milton Stewart:
IG: @kaizencareers
Web: KaizenCareers.com
Web: Kaizen Enneagram Academy
Pod: Do It For The Gram: An Enneagram Podcast
Seth "Creek" Creekmore:
IG: @_creekmore
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast
Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B
Seth Abram:
IG: @integratedenneagram
Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Drew Moser:
IG:
We continue the conversation on chronic illness and personhood with our friend, the brilliant author and therapist, K.J. Ramsey. K.J. offers profound and practical wisdom on suffering and chronic illness, and she's ennea-fluent. Her books include:
- This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers
- The Lord is My Courage: Stepping Through the Shadows of Fear to the Voice of Love
- Book of Common Courage
[1:45] What K.J. had for breakfast this morning.
[2:30] Linz nerds out with KJ on all things Michigan and Tennessee
[4:50] K.J.’s experience with and relationship to suffering.
[9:00] K.J.’s complicated relationship with “self care” & needs as signals
[12:15] K.J.’s journey as an enneagram Type 4
[15:05] Pain as a witness
[20:40] The importance of being brutally honest and looking inward
[26:30] The importance of language (poetics) as it relates to our stories of pain and suffering
[32:00] How we can redeem our language when talking about our bodies
[36:00] A practical & somatic example, with Linz as volunteer, of how to have a conversation with our bodies
[44:00] How to hold “positive” language (like hope) in a healthy way
[48:45] Hope as a team sport
[53:00] Managing emotions alongside chronic illness
[1:03:00] K.J. reads an excerpt from her most recent book, The Book of Common Courage
Follow K.J.’s work (and buy her books!): @kjramseywrites on social media and www.kjramsey.com
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Reflections | Race: The Bypassed and The Bypassing
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we interview Dr. Deborah Egerton (Dr. E). Dr. E is a Diversity, Equity, & Anti-racism Specialist, Author, Executive Coach, Keynote Speaker, and Culture Transformation & Leadership Development Expert. Dr. E. brings all kinds of brilliance and new insights on the enneagram
[1:40] When’s the last time Dr. E’s had a good belly laugh?
[6:30] About Dr. E’s book Know Justice, Know Peace
[10:50] Dr. E’s perspective as a Black woman in the enneagram space
[16:40] On loneliness and the current state of the enneagram community
[21:10] Dr. E’s vision of a humanity mosaic
[38:30] The Platinum Rule
[40:40] An example of a well-intentioned but counterproductive attempt to apply the Golden Rule
[45:30] How can we challenge others appropriately?
[50:50] The centers of intelligence as bridge builders, healers and defenders
Follow Dr. E’s work : https://www.deborahegerton.com/ and buy her book Know Justice, Know Peace!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we continue our series on race and the enneagram and interview Chichi Agorom, author of the brilliant book, The Enneagram for Black Liberation.
[0:45] What’s energizing Chichi right now?
[3:00] The importance of considering the collective, not just the individual, when using the enneagram
[7:35] A bit about Chichi’s Nigerian background
[9:10] What’s challenging about being from a collectivist culture
[11:00] The difference between individualism and individuality
[14:00] What Chichi wishes people truly understood about the enneagram
[18:15] The role that our armor plays in our lives
[25:45] If our type/strategy is armor, is it ever ok to get rid of it?
[29:30] On the concept of “centered”
[33:30] On the importance and nuance of vulnerability . . . and the role privilege plays
[37:50] Chichi turns the tables and asks us about our armor
[49:00] What can listeners do to increase understanding of the collective?
[54:50] Where can listeners find Chichi?
Follow Chichi : www.chichiagorom.com and @theenneagramforblackliberation on Insta.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we interview consultant, author, and enneagram teacher Danielle Fanfair. Danielle is full of wisdom and possesses a fierce compassion in exploring some of the more challenging aspects of race and personality.
[1:15] A bit about Danielle’s enneagram certification program and why she developed it.
[8:45] The gaps Danielle seeks to fill in her enneagram work
[12:45] How Danielle fosters safe and brave spaces in her work
[15:30] On the barriers persons of color face & how the enneagram can help
[19:44] How to handle a space that some find safe and others find brave
[25:15] How to challenge people in effective ways
[31:30] Engaging groups with both the privileged and the marginalized
[36:20] Danielle’s hopes for the enneagram community
[41:00] Danielle’s parting words of wisdom
To follow Danielle’s work and sign up for any of her trainings and certifications, visit https://www.confusiontoclarity.life/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode, we interview Jessica Dickson. Jessica is an enneagram teacher and host of the Antiracist Enneagram Podcast. Jessica’s wisdom on socialization and its impact on the enneagram is profound. Enjoy!
2:35 A bit about Jessica’s work with clients
3:30 A bit about Jessica’s podcast: The Antiracist Enneagram Podcast
6:30 Coco, Encanto, and being human
8:50 The concept of socialization and its impact
19:30 The nervous system and the enneagram
21:20 How to help others become aware of their socialization
24:45 The difference between being a White person and Whiteness
29:45 Socialization and the challenge of enneagram typing
36:30 An embodied way forward
Follow Jessica’s work: https://jessicaddickson.com/ & on insta: @jessicadickson
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Reflections | Culture & the Enneagram
Today we’re debriefing our last two episodes on the overlays of culture and the enneagram, sharing what we learned, and setting up what’s coming next in season 4!
0:40 Why we aren’t a morning show
2:33 What surprised us about our conversations with Maria Jose and Chin Ai.
8:47 Contemplating the interplay between cultural influences and enneagram style
13:47 What’s next in our exploration of dynamics of personhood? What are our hopes for you and for ourselves as we continue together?
Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
•Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
•Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
•Follow Creek: @_creekmore
•Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
•Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this interview, we interview enneagram teacher Chin Ai Oh. Chin Ai lives and words in Malaysia and has a lot of wisdom to share on expanding our cultural fluency when using the enneagram.
2:00 Who is Chin Ai?
4:00 The last time Chin Ai ate Durian.
6:00 Chin Ai’s enneagram origin story
10:45 How Chin Ai integrates the enneagram into her career working in FinTech
14:40 Differences working with the enneagram in North America vs. Malaysia
19:20 What North Americans get wrong about the enneagram
21:05 Chin Ai’s type and her cultural overlays
25:40 A few specific examples of her type and culture
28:30 Chin Ai’s culture and her type’s lines to type 9 and type 6
33:45 Chin Ai’s experience as a young female in Malaysian corporate culture
37:55 Chin Ai’s experience as a young Malaysian female in the United States
42:30 How can we use the enneagram in a more unifying fashion?
Follow Chin Ai’s work: @ennethistogether [https://www.instagram.com/ennethistogether/]
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Maria Jose Munita - @mjmunita
Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @_creekmore
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
Follow Creek: @_creekmore
Follow Drew: @typetrailhead
Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Season Four is here, friends! We are so excited to share these beautiful, vulnerable, and inspiring conversations with you. This season is tapping into something really special in our hearts, challenging us to grow profoundly. We hope you love this season as much as we do. Thanks for coming along with us!
Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
Follow Creek: @_creekmore
Follow Drew: @typetrailhead
Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Season Four is here, friends! We are so excited to share these beautiful, vulnerable, and inspiring conversations with you. This season is tapping into something really special in our hearts, challenging us to grow profoundly. Here's a teaser to get you hyped about what's in store! We hope you love this season as much as we do.Thanks for coming along with us!
Song: "King's Castle" by Kazi Jay
Kazi: @kazi.jay
Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
Follow Creek: @_creekmore
Follow Drew: @typetrailhead
Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Connect with Scott!
Scott's Instagram
Sway Leadership
Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Quotes to Uncover the Layers (Part 2)
Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
Bonus: Quotes to Uncover the Layers [Part 1]
In this bonus episode of Fathoms, Lindsey & the Seths talk about Abram’s recent Instagram series [@IntegratedEnneagram] on quotes for each type to uncover the layers of our personality. Abram shares the quote and then the hosts share how that quote resonates with their own type structures. They hosts also try to impersonate Drew…and fail miserably.
5:20 Type 1 quote
10:21 Type 2 quote
19:00 Type 3 quote
26:15 Type 4 quote
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this bonus episode of Fathoms, we talked to the creators of the innovative enneagram resource, “Enneaflip,” Scott Allender & Ashlee Sikorski. Scott and Ashlee together form Sway Leadership, a leadership development and emotional intelligence consulting firm.
1:05 Who are Ashlee [Type 4] and Scott [Type 3]?
6:00 How did Ashlee and Scott invite the enneagram into their lives?
11:20 Something surprising/counterintuitive about your type
16:30 About Ashlee’s Nine Shapes Project
19:15 What the heck is an Enneaflip?
24:00 What’s challenging about introducing the enneagram to orgs & and what’s limiting about using the enneaflip?
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Follow Scott on insta @eqenneagram
Check out Scott and Ashlee’s work at Sway Leadership: https://www.swayleadership.com/
Check out the Enneaflip here: https://www.swayleadership.com/enneaflip
Check out Ashlee’s Nine Shapes Project here: https://nineshapes.co/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Linsdey: @lindseyfaithdm
Merry Christmas from the Fathoms hosts (and Abram’s 5 month old son “Bear)! In this bonus episode we talk about all things Christmas.
2:50 When does Christmas start?
5:00 Our holiday traditions
8:55 The things that get into the spirit of Christmas.
11:00 Our fond childhood Christmas memories
16:15 Christmas and grief/pain
20:40 We finally talk about the enneagram
24:00 The power of cultural myths
31:00 On disenchantment and re-enchantment
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Linsdey: @lindseyfaithdm
In this episode we’re excited to welcome back enneagram and addiction expert Michael Naylor to talk about his recent book: The Alchemy of the Enneagram in Transforming Addiction
2:15 The hardest part of writing the book.
5:00 Michael’s intended audience(s) for the book.
8:15 How the enneagram offers additional insight into addiction.
12:30 Why he chose to use “alchemy” in the title.
16:05 Can you use the enneagram in a non-conscious way?
18:00 Creek’s sad amazon tale
19:00 Re: the concept of “transforming addiction”
23:15 Why do certain people struggle with addictions and others don’t?
25:30 Any wisdom on using the levels of health?
29:00 What Michael is most proud of in the book.
Find Michael’s book wherever you order books online!
Check out Michael’s website: www.enneagrammaine.com
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Linsdey: @lindseyfaithdm
Today's episode is an interview we had with Christa Hardin of the Enneagram and Marriage podcast. This is prior to Lindsey joining us but we still thought you would enjoy this conversation about the seasons we find ourselves in and our own personal practices to help cultivate our own growth.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm
We’re hard at work on Season 4. Thanks for your patience. In the meantime, enjoy this bonus episode introducing and getting to know our new co-host Lindsey Marks! Surprise!
2:45 - Lindsey’s enneagram story
6:30 - Lindsey’s enneagram training and work
7:30 - Lindsey’s personal growth “aha” moment
11:50 - What makes Lindsey sad
18:20 - What Lindsey brings to relationships.
20:57 - What would be an unusual sign that Lindsey is having a good day.
22:30 - Lightning round with Lindsey!
26:45 - Why Lindsey is joining us and a little bit about Season 4
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
- Follow Linsdey: @lindseyfaithdm
Today we team up with the guys at the Art of Growth podcast, Jim Zartman and Joel Hubbard. Jim and Joel are trained in the Narrative Tradition of the enneagram and do some excellent enneagram work. We talked to them about their own stories and how the enneagram has helped them make sense of them. Our season theme of "story" plays a big role in how they approach their podcast and their work with clients.
Also, if you like typing film characters, this is the episode for you. Jim and Joel have some insightful takes about the characters in the film Encanto.
This was a profound conversation. It’s a bit longer than our normal episode length, but well worth the listen.
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Check out the Art of Growth podcast and all their other fantastic resources at https://www.theartofgrowth.org/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
We are hard at work crafting the final few episodes of season 3 and wanted to highlight this wonderful episode we did back in the beginning of season 1. If you listen carefully, you'll pick up the elements of story we've been mentioning throughout the season. Knowing your story. Knowing what stories to drop and Understanding the stories of others.
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In this episode we interview the brilliant and winsome Leslie Hershberger, an enneagram teacher with decades of experience. Leslie talks about her own encounters with the enneagram, how she uses the enneagram in her work with clients and students, and the difference between entertainment, information, and transformation. Enjoy this masterclass in how to deepen your work with the enneagram.
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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
“Wisdom isn’t knowing more. It’s knowing with more of you.”—Cynthia Bourgeault
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Links:
- Leslie’s website: https://lesliehershberger.com/
- Follow Leslie on Instagram: @lesliehersh
- Follow Leslie on Twitter: @lesliehersh
- Leslie’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnI1Tmc_-bbRzCew1ubusNQ
- Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, is available for pre-order [use code “fathomspre” for 20% off!]
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
[Truthwork Media Studies] - @truth.work.media
In this episode of Fathoms, we [Abram and Drew] are entirely and utterly Creekless but soldier on anyway to talk about the 9 Basic Propositions of the enneagram. These basic propositions, developed by the late Dr. David Daniels, provide a wealth of insight into the stories we try to live out from our character structure.
- 2:20 What is a "basic proposition"?
- 5:15 Type 1
- 8:10 Type 2
- 10:05 Type 3 [Drew]
- 1 1:28 Type 4 [Creek]
- 14:50 Type 5
- 16:45 Type 6
- 18:30 Type 7
- 21:35 Type 8
- 23:20 Type 9 [Abram]
- 25:30 What do we do with this knowledge?
- 28:00 Byron Katie’s 4 questions to reflect upon our stories.
Be sure to check out the book, The Essential Enneagram, by Daniels and Price.
Find out more about The Narrative Enneagram’s resources and offerings: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
In this episode, Creek and Drew discuss how to handle the knowledge or the prediction when you know or encounter someone who is mistyped. How should one handle it?
01:33 Humility goes a long way
03:05 Start with the instincts
06:21 Being observative and compassionate with the person you’re interacting with
10:58 Examples with Russ Hudson and Nhien Vuong
13:40 Ask questions of curiosity, not passive aggression
19:00 Adding one more thing: allow for time
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
We’re all back together and today we’re talking with enneagram teacher Renee Rosario. Renee leads with Type 2 and is a core faculty member of The Narrative Tradition. Renee gives a winsome exploration of the heart and vision of the narrative approach, and provides some profound insight on the somatic insights of our stories.
3:35 A little bit about Renee and her enneagram story
7:25 A lightning round of questions to get to know Renee beyond the enneagram
12:45 Renee tells of the origins of the Narrative Tradition
14:15 What is an enneagram panel?
15:29 What makes a great enneagram panel?
17:45 Other distinctive of The Narrative Tradition
19:00 Personal Development’s 3 pillars: Psychology, Spirituality, Somatics
23:00 What does integration look and feel like?
24:00 Why did The Narrative Tradition add Somatics to its work?
25:15 The stories our bodies hold
28:00 The nonverbal of somatic work: Notice. Pause. Allow.
29:45 Can somatic work help us discover our type?
31:00 The importance of the inner observer
33:00 How to cultivate our inner observer
36:25 Practices Renee finds helpful
38:40 Does it get any easier?
40:50 How to find Renee and Narrative Enneagram trainings.
Find out more about The Narrative Enneagram’s resources and offerings: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
We want your questions! We are in the process of wrapping up this season and per usual we will be doing a Q & A for our season finale. It's one of our favorite episodes to do and we want to hear from you!
linktr.ee/fathoms.enneagram
In the meantime, as we prepare the remainder of the episodes for this season, we wanted to highlight a few other podcast that we've found to be helpful in the realm of knowing our stories and know how to drop our stories.
Hidden Brain
Changing Our Minds - TED Radio Hour
Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Fathom 15 | Can you change your number?
In this short episode, the Seths considered an often asked question (while Drew was on vacation): Can you change your enneagram number?
0:40 The Seths attack Drew’s character behind his back. Lame.
2:00 Can we change our enneagram type?
4:00 “We’re not as mushy . . .”
7:00 If we could change our number, should we want to?
8:30 Tom Condon: Dysfunctional behavior is always acquired
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Today, Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora returns to speak with us. Mario is the author of Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change and co-host of the Enneagram in a Movie podcast. Mario shares his insight on rewriting our narrative and how to take action to work on the clay that is our brain.
1:46 The Inner Triangle and how to undo your story
7:29 A simple example of how to go about that process
11:56 Scripting and writing is an active process rather than a passive process
15:52 Growing has two forms: virtue and intentionality
19:14 The importance to feel the sensations
25:37 Toxic shame vs shame vs guilt
29:51 The dangers and harm of an inaccurate story
34:19 The maturation process
38:14 Mario’s pitch for the Enneagram in a Movie podcast
Learn more about Awareness to Action: awarenesstoaction.com
Listen to Enneagram in a Movie podcast: awarenesstoaction.com/podcast
Relisten to our two-part interview with Mario Sikora: Part 1, Part 2
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
The Seths spend some time talking with our friend TJ Dawe [Type 4]. TJ is a writer, performer, director, and instructor. T.J. tells stories on stage and incorporates the enneagram into his work, helping others tell their stories on stage. Given our season’s theme of “story,” T.J. has some profound and winsome insight to help us tell our own stories.
3:45 T.J. Happens upon the enneagram
5:25 What he’s learned from helping others tell their stories.
7:35 T.J.s pro tips for telling your story well
9:15 The importance of courage in telling your story.
11:05 T.J.’s most vulnerable story and how others relate to it
15:45 The importance of art in telling our stories
20:10 T.J.s suggestions for exploring your story
22:15 A taste of TJ’s amazing storytelling.
Follow TJ’s work at: www.tjdawe.ca
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Now that we’re well into Season 3 of this show, we wanted to have a conversation about our podcast.
1:00 Our choice to include a wide array of enneagram voices
3:05 How the theme of story impacts the way we welcome guests to the show
8:30 The boundaries we keep
9:35 James P. Carse - Finite and Infinite Games
13:25 Knowing the enneagram vs. the process of becoming
16:45 Riffing on coping
19:20 Philosopher Peter Rollins on how we engage “the other”
21:00 Accepting vs. condoning
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Today we get to spend some time with Ian Morgan Cron. You probably recognize Ian as co-author of The Road Back to You or host of the Typology podcast. We talk about his new book, The Story of You, the implications of the enneagram becoming “popular” and much more.
4:00 What led Ian to move to Nashville [aka his “punk move”]
6:45 Ian’s enneagram origin story
8:50 Ian’s experience as an “enneagram influencer” in Christianity
11:30 Ian’s take on the current surge of enneagram popularity
14:15 Lightning round with Ian!
19:50 How Ian’s new book is different from others out there
23:30 “Do you ever wonder if you’re living in the wrong story?”
26:50 What supports us in childhood thwarts us in adulthood
31:00 S.O.A.R. [See. Own. Awaken. Rewrite.]
39:15 Agere Contra [“acting against”]
44:45 An example of S.O.A.R. in Ian’s life
47:20 How to find yourself in a larger story
*Follow Ian online at www.ianmorgancron.com
*The Story of You is now available wherever books are sold.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Today we’re joined by our good friend and returning guest, Lee Fields. Lee is a kind and brilliant soul, and helped us facilitate a fascinating conversation on the stories we live in the framework of fiction, memoir, and non-fiction.
2:20 Creek gives us all a pumpkin spiced latte update!
5:00 Lee on how temperament and personality develop the stories we hold
6:30 The brain as a pattern-finding machine
10:15 Fiction. Memoir. Non-fiction.
11:30 How fiction, memoir, and non-fiction show up in the lives of Lee [Type 1] and Drew [Type 3]
16:15 Creek talks to his housemate about ghosts [and about Type 4 and these matters]
19:00 Story and somatic responses
22:00 Fiction, memoir, and non-fiction in Abram’s life
24:00 Moving from fiction to memoir to non-fiction
27:00 The untold stories we carry
29:26 The 9 different ways we’re striving to feel a certain way
37:00 An exercise from Lee to name our relationship with our stories. “I am…” // “I have to be…”
Get in touch with Lee via instagram: https://www.instagram.com/avondaleests/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
This was a fun, free-wheeling conversation on one of the lesser known foundational pieces to the modern enneagram: Oscar Ichazo’s Enneagram of Traps. The Traps are the ways each type falls into as a mistaken remedy to [attempt to] overcome the type’s mental fixation. Inspired by Abram’s Instagram series on the traps [@integratedenneagram] we riff on the fixations, the holy ideas, and how the traps try (and fail) to reconcile them.
2:00 The history of the enneagram of traps
3:58 The mental FIXATIONS of our types
3:55 The HOLY IDEA as the true way to alleviate the fixation
5:24 Mario Sikora’s take on phenomenology vs. ontology
6:55 Traps as maladaptive patterns
8:10 Why Creek drinks pumpkin spice lattes
9:45 The traps for each type
28:30 How to begin to identify fallen into our traps
29:50 How the traps impact our stories
30:30 “We are walking metaphors living out a story that our whole body believes.” - Tom Condon
32:00 Resources on the Traps: Transpersonal Psychologies by Ichazo, Sandra Maitri’s Enneagram of Spirituality, and Patrick O’Leary’s The Enneagram
32:15 Buy Creek a pumpkin spiced latte! Venmo: @Seth-Creekmore
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
In this week’s episode, we have the privilege of talking with the one and only Beatrice Chestnut. Beatrice joined us to talk about her new book with Uranio Paes, The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up. But, the conversation doesn’t stop there. We get to know Beatrice beyond her enneagram teaching and writing, and the result was a fun and meaningful conversation.
6:10 - Beatrice’s thoughts on the enneagram and our stories
7:40 - Getting to know Beatrice [hobbies, interests, TV shows]
14:10 - The inspiration behind her new book
17:45 - Her experience co writing with Uranio Paes
19:30 - How her perspectives shifted since she wrote her earlier books
21:00 - How to engage the book
22:10 - “Falling asleep” and “waking up”
25:15 - How do we know we’re awake?
28:20 - The path before each type
33:00 - How Beatrice approaching coaching with the enneagram
38:00 - The Enneagram and Dante’s Divine Comedy as a map of process
40:00 - The dangers of over-pathologizing Type 4s
43:00 - Beatrice’s approach to the subtypes
53:00 - The shadows of the subtypes
59:05 - Beatrice talks about the shadows of our subtypes [Abram: SX9 // Creek: SP4 // Drew: SP3]
1:11:35 - How to follow Beatrice’s work
Follow Beatrice: cpenneagram.com // beatricechestnut.com
The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
The one, the only Dr. Jerome Wagner joins us for a conversation on the polarities of the enneagram types. Jerome brings some unique wisdom that he was kind enough to share. His four R’s are brilliant and helpful. Jerry’s books and teachings have been so foundational to the enneagram community that he was named an “Honorary Founder of the International Enneagram Association.” Enjoy this conversation.
4:50 - Who is Dr. Jerry Wagner?
6:40 - Jerry’s introduction to the enneagram [in the early ‘70s!] and his enneagram-focused dissertation
9:08 - Jerry’s enneagram elevator pitch
10:15 - Jerry’s experience as a Type 5
12:10 - Integrating Polarities [the 4 R’s: recognize, re-frame, re-own, re-cycle]
21:00 - Examples of how the polarities work by type
1:00:00 - Toxic positivity vs. toxic negativity
1:02:15 - How polarities help us with typing
1:04:00 - Exercises to explore polarities
1:07:00 - A parting word from Jerry
Follow Dr. Wagner’s work [articles, books, trainings, etc.} at: www.enneagramspectrum.com
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
Welcome to another short episode where we answer one of the most googled enneagram questions: What’s the rarest enneagram type?
2:00 - Creek makes his case for the Type 4, and Abram thinks 9s and 4s are the ones asking the question
5:30 - Is it empirically possibly to know this?
6:30 - Raises the question: What’s the most common type?
7:30 - A theory about 3s, 6s, 9s
8:50 - Why do people want to know this?
10:00 - The deeply human need to be unique.
11:00 - Nature vs. nurture
11:30 - The types we have the most of in our lives (and the least)
14:25 - Harmony triads/object relations as social groups
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
WARNING: episode contains general references to childhood trauma and abuse. | Goodness this was an amazing conversation with the wise and kind “Dr. B.” Dr. B is a clinical psychologist specializing in early childhood development. Dr. B’s insights on story in early childhood, resilience, and ACEs [adverse childhood experiences]
7:00 - Dr. B explains her work.
10:00 - How are our stories built in early childhood?
11:55 - Quick overview of the 10 ACEs [adverse childhood experiences]
15:20 - What happens in adulthood when people experience ACEs in childhood?
20:30 - The “still face experiment” with infants
26:00 - How does personality develop?
33:55 - How do we parent/uncle kids with this knowledge? “Shared conversations in appropriate ways.”
41:25 - How to build a coherent narrative
47:45 - Implicit vs. explicit memory “Ghosts in the nursery”
58:00 - Resilience - the story of triumph over trauma
Dr. B’s Website - Leave a Lifeprint Academy - https://www.drbconnections.com/
Check out Dr. B’s podcast with Creek “Delusional Optimism” wherever you listen to podcast
A Kid’s Company About - https://akidsco.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
For our first Fathom 15 of the season, we’re discussing a most frequently asked question on the enneagram, according to Google Analytics:
What are the enneagram triads?
3:00 - There are multiple triadic groupings of the enneagram.
3:45 - The three centers of intelligence
6:00 - The stances [social styles/Hornevian groups]
8:10 - The harmony triads
8:55 - Object relations: Dominant affect groups
10:30 - Conflict styles: The harmonic groups
12:15 - How our type is connected to other types in multiple ways
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
To kick off our season’s theme of “Story” we talk with Storybrand Certified Guide/marketing/branding guru David Tofilon. David is a kind, wise, soul who provides some profound insight into unpacking our stories.
1:15 - David describes himself in 3 words
3:30 - What is a Storybrand Certified Guide and what does it have to this podcast?
4:30 - An overview of a “brand script”
6:45 - Re: aspirational identity and how it’s not an outcome or a destination
10:10 - Why is it important for someone to know their story?
13:15 - What happens when people live an unhealthy/unhelpful story.
15:45 - Brandscript - After aspirational identity, there is character want. Then we encounter the PROBLEM [external, internal, philosophical]
19:15 - Understanding your story’s problem enneagramatically.
22:00 - Abram and Drew riff on ego, polarity, and our story’s problem.
25:45 - Creek’s experience with this as a Type 4.
30:00 - When the “wolf” catches up to us.
33:00 - Moving beyond the problem of our stories, what comes next? [Hint: it’s empathy and authority]
40:45 - Stepping into an authority that is motivated by empathy
42:20 - “connect, then correct”
44:15 - Implementing a plan to live a better story.
48:00 - Your call to action…
49:00 - Avoiding getting tangled and simplifying this to a 3 step plan
51:00 - Creek muses on the importance of our dreams.
53:00 - The importance of clarity…
57:00 - Parting words from David - “Clarity is worth the risk.”
Brandscript Summary: Aspirational Identity —> Character Want —> Problem —> Empathy —> Authority —> Call to Action
Storybrand framework based off of Donald Miller’s book “Building a Storybrand.”
Learn more here
Connect with David: www.tofilonconsulting.com // Insta: @dtofilon
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
In this Introduction to Season 3 of Fathoms, the Seths and Drew spent a weekend at a cabin in the woods in Kentucky. We turned the microphones on and talked about our hopes for this season. We also reflect on previous seasons, talk about Creek’s Kentucky roots, and we INTRODUCED THIS SEASON’S THEME. Of course, Abram has a quote or two to share.
Thanks so much for your patience while we put together this season. We’re excited to share it with you.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
We are excited to finally be launching our trailer for this season. It’s been a long time coming but we’re excited to share what we’ve been learning.
Our theme this year is, Story. Knowing our story, Finding what stories to drop, and Understanding the stories of others.
We hope you’ll join us this season!
Song: Can I Be Honest - Eric Lee Carpenter
In our Season 2 Finale, the Seths and Drew take a trip down memory lane and reflect on the many depths explored. Then, with some help with our friends Lee Fields and Milton Stewart we answer listener questions. And finally, the guys celebrate a major podcast milestone complete with a roast from our good friend Kevin Smith.
We’re already scheming on Season 3. What would you like us to cover? Let us know and thanks so much for listening!
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
- Our Season 2 highlights [1:30]
- Listener questions with special guest Lee Fields [9:30]
- Q: As a type 9, how do I find my voice in conflict? [10:20]
- Q: How should I use the enneagram while I don’t know my number? [15:15]
- Listener questions with special guest Milton Stewart [20:30]
- Q: How can life experience, circumstances, or environment impact Type? [21:27]
- Q: Is it common for countertypes to not experience the typical childhood for their type? [28:45]]
- We reached 100K [nay, 110k] downloads!!! [38:30]
- Kevin Smith gets off his couch to roast us [39:20]
- Kevin explodes our brains in a few minutes’ time [45:50]
- Kevin announced the launch of our new product line, “Fathoms Elite, Fathoms Elite Plus, Fathoms Elite Plus Plus” [54:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
- Follow Kevin: @dialecticspace
- Follow Milton: @doitforthegrampodcast
- Follow Lee: @enneagrammatic
Take a calming, grounded journey in nature with Creek and enjoy this walking meditation. This is 25 minutes well spent.
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
Surprise! Enjoy this bonus episode with our friends Bekah TenHaken and Molly Tindall, the creative and kind geniuses behind Enneagram Magazine. Enneagram Magazine is a bold, profound, and beautiful contribution to today’s enneagram landscape. Thanks to Bekah and Molly for joining us to talk about it! And use the code: “FATHOMS” for 10% off your Enneagram Magazine order!
- About Bekah & her enneagram origin story [1:45]
- About Molly & her enneagram origin story [4:45]
- Their enneagram elevator pitches [8:00]
- The heart behind Enneagram Magazine [10:40]
- In the current glut of enneagram content, what makes this mag unique? [13:15]
- A rundown of currently available issues [17:10]
- Why Drew can’t take Enneagram Magazine issues out of the house [18:15]
- A preview of the current issue: JUSTICE…and why it’ll ruffle some feathers [20:00]
- The story of this year’s 4 issue series: Soil [Justice], Seed [Health], Plant [Endeavor], Fruit [Wonder] [25:28]
Follow Enneagram Magazine:
- www.enneagrammagazine.com
- Use the code “FATHOMS” for 10% off.
- Insta: @enneagrammagazine
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this Fathom 15, the Seths and guest co-host Lindsey Marks talk briefly with one our listeners, author/podcaster/speaker and loud laugher Annie F. Downs. Annie is a is a dominant Type 7 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “As a Type 7 with a strong 8 wing, how can I better relate to other numbers?”
- Abram’s take on how to consider the wings [8:50]
- Lindsey on how the 7’s harmony triad can help [12:45]
- How the lines connected to the 7 can help. [15:20]
- Re: expectations of being a female 7 [18:00]
- How teaching the enneagram can perpetuate others’ expectations of Type 7 [19:30]
- The difference between being free and available [24:00]
- Annie, half-joking: “What number should I be dating?” [28:45]
Follow Annie:
- That Sounds Fun Podcast
- anniefdowns.com
- https://www.instagram.com/anniefdowns/
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
While talking with Lynda Roberts, we also recorded a bonus meditation to share with you. Before you listen, grab a pen/pencil and a piece a paper, hit play, and engage this brief meditation focusing on a repeating question for each intelligence center.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Lynda and her work:
- Lynda’s website: https://www.enneagramhorizons.com/
- Enneagram Georgia: https://enneagramgeorgia.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Interview | Understanding the Inner Critic with Lynda Roberts [Season 2, Episode 22]
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with one of our enneagram teachers, Lynda Roberts (Type 6). Lynda is an authorized Enneagram Institute teacher, former president of the Intl. Enneagram Association, and brings a wealth of enneagram experience and has some important wisdom on the inner critic of each type.
- Lynda’s enneagram journey [3:40]
- Lynda’s enneagram elevator pitch [7:00]
- When it’s ok to start teaching and coaching the enneagram [9:50]
- Lynda’s experience as a Type 6 [11:20]
- The type of enneagram work Lynda is doing now [14:30]
- Lynda’s experience as IEA president [16:45]
- The Diamond Heart approach - What is it? [19:20]
- The inner critic (it’s not just about Type 1!) [24:15]
- Where the inner critic comes from [26:40]
- The difference between inner critic vs. inner conscience [29:30]
- What to do with your inner critic [31:10]
- The Welcoming Prayer [36:50]
- The inner critic for each enneagram type [39:30]
- Where to find Lynda [53:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Lynda and her work:
- Lynda’s website: https://www.enneagramhorizons.com/
- Enneagram Georgia: https://enneagramgeorgia.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with one of our enneagram teachers, Lynda Roberts (Type 6). Lynda is an authorized Enneagram Institute teacher, former president of the Intl. Enneagram Association, and brings a wealth of enneagram experience and has some important wisdom on the inner critic of each type.
- Lynda’s enneagram journey [3:40]
- Lynda’s enneagram elevator pitch [7:00]
- When it’s ok to start teaching and coaching the enneagram [9:50]
- Lynda’s experience as a Type 6 [11:20]
- The type of enneagram work Lynda is doing now [14:30]
- Lynda’s experience as IEA president [16:45]
- The Diamond Heart approach - What is it? [19:20]
- The inner critic (it’s not just about Type 1!) [24:15]
- Where the inner critic comes from [26:40]
- The difference between inner critic vs. inner conscience [29:30]
- What to do with your inner critic [31:10]
- The Welcoming Prayer [36:50]
- The inner critic for each enneagram type [39:30]
- Where to find Lynda [53:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Lynda and her work:
- Lynda’s website: https://www.enneagramhorizons.com/
- Enneagram Georgia: https://enneagramgeorgia.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one of our listeners in Malaysia, Chin Ai. Chin Ai is a Dominant Type 3 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “How do you draw the line between letting your type and dependencies become a self-fulfilling prophecy and proactively moving away from your type’s tendencies in a healthy and sustainable manner?”
- Abram (Dominant Type 9] on using the surface awareness of the tool, using that knowledge to become who you truly are and why a practice like meditation is vital. [07:15]
- Drew [Dominant Type 3] on viewing type as the trailhead, the two paths that await you at the trailhead and why choosing your path is the most important first step. [9:40]
- Creek [Dominant Type 4] on stepping into more of your true identity and less identifying with your ego patterns. [11:55]
- The Abram quote generator: “You cannot give up anything unless you know what it is and to discover who you are, you must first discover who you are not.” [14:59]
- Chin Ai on how she’s working through this with her Enneagram work. [14:52]
Follow Chin Ai on Instagram: @ennethistogether
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs are open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and addiction expert Michael Naylor (4w5). Michael was kind enough to join us from his home in Portland, Maine and talk to us about the intersection of personality and addition. Michael is a wise soul with a wealth of insight. Enjoy!
- A bit about Michael and his enneagram origin story [3:40]
- Michael’s enneagram elevator pitch [7:30]
- In Michael’s opinion, the greatest myth about the enneagram [8:15]
- Creek goes to therapy with Michael [9:40]
- One of Michael’s favorite transformation stories working with clients in addition and recovery [12:35]
- Michael’s definition of ‘addiction’ and the enneagram’s levels of health [18:40]
- Re: quality of presence and level of addition [25:00]
- Michael’s take on connecting certain additions with certain types [29:00]
- Re: enneagram type, genetics, and addiction [30:50]
- The psychic structure and personality type [33:40]
- How to help the types see more clearly [44:00]
- Creek goes back to therapy with Michael [47:00]
- The process of recovery [53:25]
- Lessons for the types about recovery (even if they aren’t in recovery) [55:45]
- Advice for those who may need help [1:01:45]
- Michael’s lessons from his own recovery journey [1:03:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Michael and his work :
- Micahel’s website: https://enneagrammaine.com/
- Michael’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enneagrammaine/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one our listeners in Zambia (but from Zimbabwe), Stacey Madgwick. Stacey is a dominant Type 4 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “What does it look like for you to be present in your life in all 3 Centers of Intelligence (Body, Heart, Mind)?”
- Abram (Dominant Type 9] on reducing reactivity, not forcing the type’s agenda, being present to real peace amid the disruption [2:05]
- Drew [Dominant Type 3] on being fully present at home and work, needing to slow down, remembering to breathe, grounding. [3:55]
- Creek [Dominant Type 4] on starting with the body, staying with sensation, inquiring about discomfort, and the fullness of now. [7:00]
- Stacey on letting the heart speak. [9:50]
- The Abram quote generator: “The body is the beach to get to the the ocean that is the heart.”[10:55]
- Stacey’s close encounters with lions. [11:10]
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
As promised, here’s Part 2 of our conversation with enneagram LEGEND Tom Condon. We said it before and we’ll say it again: If you’re serious about enneagram work, you need to know Tom Condon’s enneagram work. In this episode we dig into some of the depths of each enneagram type. Enjoy!
- The hypnotic “trance” of our type [0:55]
- Age regression and age progression [6:15]
- Trances and group dynamics [11:00]
- Creek asks Tom to tell a joke…and it’s glorious [22:15]
- How the enneagram community has changed and evolved during Tom’s career [23:15]
- “The enneagram is easy to learn, difficult to master” [26:30]
- Where Tom thinks the enneagram conversation is headed [29:40]
- Tom’s initial encounter with the enneagram [36:15]
- How to put the past to rest [40:15]
- Tom’s experience with courage [43:45]
- What Tom’s working on now [46:20]
- Tom’s recommendations on learning more about NLP [48:00]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Tom and his work :
- Tom’s website: www.thechangeworks.com
- Tom’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/changewk
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with enneagram LEGEND Tom Condon. If you’re serious about enneagram work, you need to know Tom Condon’s enneagram work. There’s so much goodness in our conversation with Tom that we had to divide it up into two episodes. So enjoy Part 1 and stay tuned for Part 2 next week.
- Tom’s enneagram origin story [4:40]
- Tom’s experience as a dominant Type 6 [6:40]
- Bob Newhart and the enneagram [8:35]
- Tom’s 4 methods for change [10:15]
- On choosing which methods of change to apply [19:00]
- “An enneagram style is like . . . “ [21:00]
- The “Law” of Secondary Gains [23:05]
- Type is like cauterizing a wound . . . [27:20]
- Type specific examples [28:55]
- RE: trauma and enneagram type [34:55]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Tom and his work :
- Tom’s website: www.thechangeworks.org
- Tom’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/changewk
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one our listeners from “across the pond,” Stephen. Stephen is a dominant Type 8 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “What role does enneagram type play in habit formation?”
- How does the enneagram differ from other typologies when it comes to understanding habits and patterns? [4:15]
- Personality and potential [5:55]
- Drew explains the origins of “piggybacking” [7:00]
- Atomic Habits by James Clear [8:00]
- Systems vs. goals [9:15]
Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
As promised, here is Part 2 with Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora. If you missed Part 1, go listen to it and then follow it up with this episode. Mario has some interesting, innovative and, dare we say…controversial (to some) takes on the enneagram. HIs ability to translate some of the deeper concepts of the enneagram to the corporate sector is fascinating. Enjoy!
- Distinguishing between Russ Hudson’s instinctual zones and Mario’s zones [0:45]
- The Preserving Domain and its subdomains [4:25]
- The Navigating Domain and its subdomains [16:45]
- A quick plug for Mario’s podcast, The Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast - The Enneagram in a Movie [20:30]
- The Transmitting Domain and its subdomains [22:05]
- Mario’s Awareness to Action approach to the enneagram [26:00]
- Why change is so difficult [33:45]
- Mario’s heart space advice for listeners [40:45]
- Where to find Mario [45:45]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Mario and his work :
- Mario’s books: https://www.amazon.com/Mario-Sikora/e/B072JCJXHS%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
- His website: https://mariosikora.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
Buckle up friends! This is Part 1 of a two-parter with Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora. Mario has some interesting, innovative and, dare we say…controversial (to some) takes on the enneagram. HIs ability to translate some of the deeper concepts of the enneagram to the corporate sector is fascinating. Enjoy and stay tuned for Part 2 next week!
- Abram sucks up to Mario [3:30]
- Mario’s enneagram story and how he uses it in his work [4:45]
- Why a lot of enneagram language isn’t suitable for the business world [8:50]
- What enneagram ideas tend to create problems in the corporate setting [10:45]
- How Mario explores the depths of the enneagram and maintain professional boundaries [14:00]
- Mario’s approach to type as “emotional strategy” [18:00]
- How Mario’s approach “lands” with clients [23:30]
- Each type’s emotional strategy [24:50]
- How to work with your type’s strategy [33:10]
- “Clarifying the ego” [38:35]
- Mario’s unique [heretical?] approach to the instincts [40:00]
- Instinctual biases as verbs - [52:05]
- The “patterns of expression” for the instinctual domains [55:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Ways to find Mario and his work :
- Mario’s books: https://www.amazon.com/Mario-Sikora/e/B072JCJXHS%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
- His website: https://mariosikora.com/
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this Fathom 15 episode, Drew and the Seths talk about enneagram typing. They cover how they each discovered their type and different typing strategies they recommend. This brief episode is perfect for any struggling to discover their dominant enneagram type. Listen and then go type thyself!
- Abram’s typing journey [1:45]
- Creek’s typing journey [3:15]
- Drew’s typing journey [4:10]
- Why for some typing is so difficult [5:45]
- Trait language vs. motivational language [10:10]
- Our suggestions for typing [11:10]
- Tests [13:00]
- Typing interviews [16:10]
- Reading books [20:18]
- Listening to Sleeping at Last’s enneagram songs [20:45]
- Typing cards [21:15]
- Final tips [22:10]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Links:
- RHETI (Riso-Hudson Enneagram Type Indicator)
- Ryan O’Neal/Sleeping At Last Enneagram Songs
- Drew’s Book: The Enneagram of Discernment
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
In this episode of Fathoms - An Enneagram Podcast, Creek and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and functional neurologist Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe. Jerome is an enneagram innovator and the author of The Brain-Based Enneagram: You Are Not A Number. We get into some really fun and interesting intersections of science and the enneagram, and also talk about some of Jerome’s innovative ideas with the enneagram. Buckle up, because this episode is FULL of fascinating content.
- Jerome’s fascinating story [3:00]
- Why Jerome uses the enneagram in his clinical work [5:15]
- Why Jerome thinks the enneagram symbol is upside-down [7:20]
- The importance of a whole-person approach to the enneagram instead of stereotyping [8:45]
- Jerome’s “efficiency” approach to the enneagram types. [12:00]
- How Jerome uses the RHETI assessment to develop his Whole Identity profile [15:00]
- The pushback Jerome’s received from his unique approach to the enneagram [22:30]
- Why Jerome thinks the traditional enneagram symbol is upside down [26:00]
- How the enneagram correlates with Executive Function Disorders [30:15]
- How do the instincts show up in the brain? [35:30]
- What Jerome’s working on right now [40:00]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
Follow Dr. Jerome’s work:
- Buy his book on Amazon
- Thrive Neuro
- Dr. Jerome’s YouTube channel
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
Fathom 15 | Personality vs. Personhood.
What’s the difference between being a person and having a personality type? In this brief Fathom 15 episode, we talk about it.
- We contain multitudes. [2:00]
- You have a type. You are not your type.-Russ Hudson [4:35]
- Regarding the language we use to describe type [6:30]
- Knowing someone’s type doesn’t mean you know that person fully [9:00]
- Fractals of type [10:00]
- On whether or not we should share what our personality type is with others [14:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
2020 was a dumpster fire, and we walk into 2021 with great expectations. On this New Year’s Eve, we offer to you a powerful conversation about this threshold from one year to the next with our dear friend Leslie Hershberger. It’s tempting to shake off the dust of this past year and never look back. Maybe there’s another way?
- How do we honor and integrate our pain and loss from this past year? [1:47]
- James Finley: “Love doesn’t save us from suffering. But it does sustain us.” [15:15]
- The threshold from 2020 to 2021 [29:50]
- Hold the thing that is holding you back [31:50]
- How do we look to and dream of the future without being attached to its outcomes? [33:25]
- The difference between wise hope and clinging to an outcome [37:00]
- How kids are natural mystics [47:00]
- Morgan Harper Nichols on giving ourselves grace [50:45]
- How do we continue to hold this tension through this new year? [51:30]
- Wisdom from the Velveteen Rabbit [54:30]
- With intention, live into what matters most in 2021 [56:15]
- Not all contradictions are meant to be resolved. [58:30]
Follow Leslie’s work: https://lesliehershberger.com/
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
Merry Christmas (Eve)! Tonight marks the end of Advent, and tomorrow begins Christmas-time! Enjoy this conversation with friend, pastor, and returning guest Jason Adam Miller of South Bend City Church. He shares with us a profound way to understand Advent in light of who we are…which leads us all to talk about the Advent of Ourselves for each Enneagram Type.
- The traditional 3 Advents [1:40]
- “It’s true not just because it happened, but because it happens.” [2:40]
- The ontology and the experience of Advent. [4:45]
- Jason’s theory on Advent and the enneagram [7:00]
- Applying Jason’s theory to each enneagram type [15:00]
- Did Jason think we applied his theory well? [39:00]
Follow Jason’s: www.southbendcitychurch.com | Social media: @jasonadammiller
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “fcpchristmas” for a 20% discount!]
In this episode, we talk with enneagram teacher and ordained unity minister Rev. Nhien Vuong. Nhien is a dynamic and thoughtful teacher and helps us see the ways in which we “bond through pain is we show up the right way.” Soak in her wisdom and be sure to check out her work!
- Nhien’s story first encountering the enneagram [5:40]
- The importance of being kind to yourself [9:00]
- Nhien’s journey to self-compassion [10:05]
- How Nhien uses the enneagram in her work [15:00]
- Nhien uses Drew’s book in her work! [17:30]
- Why Nhien refers to some of her work as “spiritual tutoring” [20:15]
- On “bonding through pain is we show up the right way…”[22:45]
- On the significance of her company’s name, Evolving Enneagram…[28:45]
- The importance of being safe in learning communities [33:00]
- 4s, 6s, 8s and their emotional realness [36:15]
- Nhien’s definition of spirituality [39:10]
- “We are spiritual beings having a human experience.”-de Chardin [44:45]
- Sin vs. goodness [47:00]
- Preaching what we practice [50:15]
- Compassionately looking at your type [52:25]
Follow Nhien’s work: www.evolvingenneagram.com | Social media: @evolvingenneagram
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “fcpchristmas” for a 20% discount!]
What if you were a). on an elevator, b). Someone you deeply admire and have always wanted to talked to joins you and c). Turns to you and asks, “What is the enneagram?”….what would you say? The Seths and Drew gave their attempts at their enneagram elevator pitches.
- Drew’s first attempt-“A framework of 9 pilgrimages of personhood…” [2:10]
- Creek-“9 Different ways we are falling asleep…” [2:40]
- Abram-“Ancient wisdom with modern psychology…” [3:55]
- Abram-9 variation of the divine…” [5:20]
- Drew-“9 psycho-spiritual strategies” [5:55]
- Remember Leslie Hershberger “it’s both your obstacle and your opening to love…” [7:28]
- When the enneagram comes up at parties [8:52]
- The best conversations about the enneagram aren’t about the enneagram [10:10]
- Not about the external…but internal practice [11:00]
- “Your type shows up when you don’t”—Russ Hudson [12:14]
- What to do if you can’t stop talking about the enneagram [13:30]
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “fcpchristmas” for a 20% discount!]
Seth Creekmore (574) 361-0019 creekmoremusic@gmail.com
Greetings all you raging narcissists! In this episode of Fathoms, Drew and the Seths are joined by author, professor, counselor, and spiritual director Dr. Chuck DeGroat. We talk about his book, When Narcissism Comes to Church, which expands our stereotypical notions of narcissistic leaders through the lens of the enneagram.
- Abram quotes Russ Hudson re: coddling our own narcissism [3:12]
- The highlight of Chuck’s career [4:02]
- When Chuck received the enneagram into his heart [6:15]
- About Chuck’s book, When Narcissism Comes to Church [8:00]
- Chuck’s definition of narcissism [9:35]
- On Narcissistic Personality Disorder [11:45]
- Narcissistic style, type, and disorder [12:40]
- Narcissism and success [14:55]
- Epigenetics [15:33]
- The difference between acting narcissistic and being a narcissist [16:30]
- Having spiritual authority vs. being spiritually abusive [18:00]
- The nine faces of narcissism [19:00]
- The gift of healthy narcissism and original goodness [22:30]
- Narcissism and the enneagram triads [26:00]
- The concept of “splitting” and the path to transformation [30:25]
- The importance of shadow work [33:00]
- How we can use our narcissism to work towards healing and wholeness [34:47]
- Co-dependence and narcissism [38:15]
- Re: toxic positivity and toxic negativity [40:10]
Follow Chuck’s work at www.chuckdegroat.net.
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “fcpchristmas” for a 20% discount!]
Creek & Abram have a quick conversation about how to practically apply the things we talk about in the previous Thanksgiving episode (check your podcast feed). Creek then leads us in a meditation that no matter where you are, is exactly what you need.
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “PODCAST” for a 15% discount!]
In this Fathom 15, the guys provide a timely conversation for those celebrating Thanksgiving in the U.S. Holidays with family can be uniquely stressful, even more so amid a global pandemic. We hope this short episode helps you get through the day. If you need a break from the political debate, go find a quiet room and have a listen.
- On our own experiences around the Thanksgiving table [1:35]
- 2 tools to help you through today: 1. Transcending and Including & 2. Family Systems Theory [3:40]
- Going home can be a liminal space [6:40]
- What we should do with tension [8:15]
- The false binary of family debates [10:43]
- Keep the long game in mind [12:20]
- The importance of humility [13:00]
- The difference between allowing and accepting [13:30]
- Working towards a both/and [15:00]
- On Fr. Rohr’s concept of image and likeness [16:30]
- Encountering others and honoring the Imago Dei within [17:50]
- Still set appropriate boundaries [18:45]
- Check out our Season 1 Episode on Conflict Styles [21:40]
- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversation-conflict-styles/id1508239925?i=1000486643264
If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
- Follow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
- Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
- Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
- Follow Drew: @enneagrammers
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “PODCAST” for a 15% discount!]
In this Fathom 15, the Seths and Drew explore this season’s guiding question: “What is your unique contribution to the enneagram conversation that provides the depth we need in our present world?”
- How this question is used in Season 2 [2:04]
- How the enneagram helps us see ourselves and how it helps us see the world [2:46]
- Solitary work that cannot be done alone [4:45]
- If you don’t tell the truth about yourself, you can’t tell it about other people [5:30]
- The enneagram and our post-truth age [7:15]
- Our patterned centers of intelligence vs. reality [9:39]
- What Abram did (and regrets) early in his marriage [10:55]
- A practical half step to reverse engineering your enneagram type structure [12:32]
- The importance of community [14:20]
- Our type’s gifts and barriers [16:15]
- Our world NEEDS our internal work to have external implications [17:23]
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
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Drew’s book: The Enneagram of Discernment | The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice now available on Amazon or direct from the publisher. [Order direct from www.fallscitypress.com and use code “PODCAST” for a 15% discount!]
Drew and the Seths interview their teacher, the one and only Nan Henson. Nan is a master enneagram teacher based in Atlanta, Georgia. She’s one of a select few of Enneagram Institute authorized teachers in the world. Nan is the founder of Enneagram Atlanta and co-founder of Enneagram Georgia. And you’ll want to stick around to the end of this episode, because Nan leads us through a brief and powerful meditation exercise.
- How Nan is continuing her enneagram teaching amid COVID-19 [3:20]
- Nan’s enneagram origin story [4:41]
- How long it took Nan to feel confident in her enneagram teaching [9:02]
- Advice for stepping into something bigger than yourself [9:45]
- As a Type 2, how Nan has learned to live from a more authentic sense of self [11:00]
- Living in the heart [14:00]
- How to cultivate the capacity for presence [16:45]
- The difference between merely eliminating distraction and cultivating presence amid distraction [21:08]
- How each enneagram type loses presence [22:45]
- On the fear of living from a more authentic self [29:30]
- Nan-wisdom on healing the heart [33:00]
- The power of repeating questions practices to access the heart [37:10]
- Relatedness vs. relationship [39:00]
- Supporting others in their inner work [41:00]
- Where to find Nan and a bit about her certification program [43:45]
- Nan leads us through a closing meditation [46:45]
Follow Nan:
- www.enneagramatlanta.com [Nan’s workshops]
- www.enneagramgeorgia.com [Nan’s certification program with Lynda Roberts]
- Instagram: @ennegramatlanta
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
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Conversation | Season 2 Introduction
Drew and the Seths spent a weekend at a cabin in the woods plotting and scheming their second season of Fathoms. They recorded a conversation to share what’s in store . . .
- An update on Creek & Drew’s quest to get Abram to move back to Indiana [0:25]
- The guys talk about their favorite moments from Season 1 [1:21]
- A confession: This is the first time all three co-hosts have been in the same physical location at the same time [4:10]
- Where Season 2 is headed: SEASON 2 THEME! [6:15]
- How they hope to share the mic this season [10:50]
- Possible topics for Season 2 [12:30]
- The guiding question for each episode of Season 2 [14:37]
- What we “need” from enneagram wisdom right now. [16:40]
- Levi Strauss - “Humanity ends at the borders of a tribe” [19:30]
- Tribalism in the enneagram community [20:54]
- Our need for individual and collective healing [22:28]
- “Why you gotta make it weird?” [25:25]
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
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We are so excited to share Season 2 with you, complete with some of our favorite conversations and guests. Our first full length episode drops THIS THURSDAY, November 5, with new content every week through March 2021. Don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode!
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Music: “Mending” by Kazi Jay
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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”
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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser
Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore
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To wrap up Fathoms’ first season, Abram, Creek, and Drew answer your questions! They cover a LOT of enneagram ground in this episode, and they call on some brilliant friends (and familiar voices to Fathoms listeners) to help. Thanks so much for listening. Stay in touch, and stay tuned for next season!
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- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment is NOW AVAILABLE!
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It’s here! It’s finally here! Today our very own Drew Moser’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment: The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, & Practice launches into the world. To celebrate, Abram and Creek interview (roast?) Drew all about the book: why he wrote it, the writing process, and what makes the book unique from ALL the other enneagram books out there. Congrats Drew! Dr. Chuck DeGroat calls The Enneagram of Discernment “one of the most significant contributions to Enneagram wisdom in my twenty plus years of studying it.”
Order your copy TODAY!
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
•Order your copy directly from the publisher , and use the code “enneagramlaunch” for a special launch week discount!
•Get the paperback from Amazon
•Or, if Kindle is your thing, you can get that here .
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Conflict is a part of life. In the default settings of out enneagram type, we too often encounter conflict in unhealthy ways. One of the lesser known triadic groups of the enneagram are the conflict styles. In this conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew happen to each reside in a different conflict style. They introduce their conflict style, and talk about how we can better engage the conflict of life (and not avoid it).
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Links:
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Check out this helpful resource on the harmonic patterns: http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/conflict.html
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- Center for Nonviolent Communication
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In this KOTC episode [KEVIN ON THE COUCH!], Creek and Drew talk again with Kevin Smith, who gives us a powerful example of a process approach to the enneagram; specifically, the enneagram of the tree. This is a very different approach to the enneagram, using the framework as a map of process rather than the more common enneagram of personality. If you can, listen to this episode outside in view of your favorite tree. If you’ve never heard of this way of using the enneagram, don’t worry! Take what you know about each type and consider this process approach that puts the 9 points of the enneagram together in a journey.
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In this Fathom 15, Abram and Drew talk about the importance of identifying gaps in our own knowledge. They reveal some initial results of Drew’s Enneagram Fluency Quiz, and offer their own approaches to learning and growth.
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Links:
- You can take the Ennearam Fluency Quiz yourself for free here:https://forms.gle/vFTtxv2J8ndUP8uq8
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In this first installment of "Kevin on the Couch" our brilliant friend, Kevin Smith, gives a quick overview of the mysterious and somewhat controversial figure George I. Gurdjieff who played an integral part in the development of the Enneagram. Put on your thinking caps as we go to a deeper fathom than we've gone before.
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Links:
- Books:
- In Search of the Miraculous
- Fourth Way
- People:
- Kevin Smith @dialecticspace
- George I. Gurdjieff
- Peter D. Ouspensky
- John Godolphin Bennett
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Creek leads us in a small reflection about our patterns and how our attempt to return to normal is often just our inability to see, experience and accept what is actually happening now.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Wisdom of the Enneagram
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This is the feel good conversation we’ve all been waiting for. In this Fathom 15, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about something we’ve all experienced this year: disappointment. When we experience disappointment, our type often shows up in full force. With attention and intention, our experiences of disappointment can be invitations to awareness, growth, and change.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Byron Katie’s 4 questions.
- Is it true?
- Can you absolutely know that it’s true?
- How do you react and what happens when you believe that thought?
- Who would you be without that thought?
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Interview | Systemic Racism & Systematic Work with Milton Stewart
In this crucial conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and podcaster Milton Stewart about systemic racism and the need for each of us to do our inner work in order to be about the outward change we want. We cover a lot of ground: double consciousness, code switching, spiritual and racial bypassing, and more. Milton is a wise soul, and is a profound voice in the enneagram community. Please check out Milton’s podcast, Do It For the Gram.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Listen and subscribe to Do It For the Gram by Milton Stewart. And considerbecoming a patron on his Patreon page.
- Check out Milton’s consulting business at Kaizen Careers
- Follow Milton on Instagram
- A lot of the history of racism in America Milton discusses in this episode is also explored in this profoundly helpful YouTube video by Phil Vischer.
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Books:
- White Fragility, by Robin DiAngelo and Michael Eric Dyson
- The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby
- I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown
- Between the World and Me, by Ta-Nehisi Coates
- How to Be An Anti-Racist, by Ibram X Kendi
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In this Fathom 15, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the interconnected lines in the enneagram framework. They discuss the cool math behind the lines, the prominent theories regarding the lines and how to work with the lines.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- 1 divided by 7 = .142857…
- Becoming Conscious, by Dr. Joseph Howell
- The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram, by Sandra Maitri
- An introduction to Nikola Tesla
- Abi Robbins on Vantage & Refuge
- Mario Sikora on the “Neglected” and “Support” Strategies.
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In this short episode, Creek and Drew talk about some of their favorite enneagram resources, specifically those that are lesser known. For the sake of time, we left out a lot of great resources, so be on the lookout for another resource episode in the future.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Books (Abram’s recommendations included!)
- The Art of Typing by Ginger Lapid-Bogda
- The Wisdom of the Enneagram by Don Riso and Russ Hudson
- Discover Your Soul Potential by Kathy Hurley & Theodorre Donson
- The Enneagram: Understanding Yourselves and the Others in Your Life by Helen Palmer
- The Essential Enneagram by David Daniels and Virginia Price
- An Introduction to the Enneagram - Jerome Wagner
- Emotions and the Enneagram - Margaret Frings Keyes
- From Fixation to Freedom - Eli Jaxon-Bear
- Facets of Unity - A.H. Almaas
- Deep Living - Roxanne Howe-Murphy
- Enneagram Spirituality - Suzanne Zuercher
- Ennea-Type Structures - Claudio Naranjo
- Roaming Free Inside the Cage by William M. Schafer
- The Enneagram Triads, by Dick Wright
- Spiritual Dimensions of the Enneagram, by Sandra Maitri
- And (of course), The Enneagram of Discernment by Drew Moser, Ph.D.
Podcasts (Abram’s recommendations included)
- Do it for the Gram by Milton Stewart
- “That Sounds Fun” Ennea-Summer series” with Annie F. Downs- coming July '20
- Exploring the Enneagram with Dr E (Deborah Egerton)
- The Evolving Enneagram interspiritual podcast
- The Art of Growth
- Love Thy Neighborhood presents The Enneacast
- The Enneagram & Coffee by Sarajane Case
- Conscious Construction, by Abi Robbins
- The Real Enneagram, by Dr. Joseph Howell
- Heart of the Enneagram
- EnneaCan
- Enneagram 2.0 by Beatrice Chestnut & Uranio Pais
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- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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In this episode, Abram and Creek introduce and discuss meditation. What is it? Why is it important? How do you practice it? They help us realize how simple, and yet profound, paying attention to the present can be. Enjoy this episode, and then go on a slow walk and practice it!
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In this Fathom 15, Abram and Creek talk about the dominant emotion of each intelligence center within the enneagram framework. Our dominant emotions can be impairments or invitations. How do you see Anger, Sadness/Shame, or Fear in your life? What are these emotions trying to tell you?
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Links:
- Chip Dodd’s The Voice of the Heart: A Call to Full Living
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In this Fathom 15, Creeks leads us in a meditation exercise on listening. When we are overwhelmed by all that’s happening in our neighborhoods, our countries, and this world, one thing we can always do is LISTEN.
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- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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In this BONUS Fathom 15, Creeks talks with Drew about his soon-to-be-released book, The Enneagram of Discernment: The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice. The book officially drops on June 23, so consider this a preview. Drew talks about who the book is for, and shares a few insights into writing about the enneagram and what’s unique about THIS book amid the sea of other enneagram books out there.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Pre-order Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, and use “fathomspre” for 20% off:https://www.fallscitypress.com/enneagram
- Pre-order the e-book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0897X2D5F?pf_rd_r=J614W56FD1MZB20D0HM8&pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee
- [the book will be available just about everywhere else you buy books online June 23]
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Amid our nation’s current crisis, words fail…but still matter. In this Fathom 15, Drew begins with a few words about the tragic death of George Floyd, and then outlines the 9 Stages of Enneagram Learning. Consider this a brief addendum to our previous episode on “Personality. Potential. Practice.” It we are going to change, we each must get beneath and through the confines of our personality type and work towards wholeness and connectedness.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
“Anti-racist work IS enneagram work”—Abi Robbins
Enneagram Resources from BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, People of Color]:
- Podcast: Do it For the Gram: An Enneagram Podcast by Milton Stewart
- Website: Evolving Enneagram by Rev. Nhien Vuong
- Instagram: @enneagramincolor
- Instagram: @ennethistogether by Chin Ai Oh
- Book: Forty Days on Being a Three by Sean Palmer
Links:
- You can find the “9 Stages of Enneagram Learning” outlined here:https://www.instagram.com/p/BtocEVvBB__/
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In this episode Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the beautiful and brutal journey of getting beneath PERSONALITY and living into our POTENTIAL by adopting PRACTICES for growth and transformation. ALSO: We announce an exciting giveaway, complete with not one, but THREE prizes!
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Links:
- Enter our giveaway via our Instagram feed: @fathoms.enneagram
- Pre-order Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, and use “fathomspre” for 20% off:https://www.fallscitypress.com/enneagram
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Fathom 15 | Wings
Welcome to our second installment of (roughly) 15 minute conversations on an enneagram-related topic. In this “Fathom 15” Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the enneagram concept of WINGS. What are they? Are they important? We introduce some various theories on the wings, and then talk about our own personal experience with wings.
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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, is available for pre-order [use code “fathomspre” for 20% off!]
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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In this episode we talk with the brilliant Dr. Deborah Ooten. We cover a wide range of topics: the enneagram and children, how personality type forms, and (FINALLY) we go around the horn with Dr. Ooten to learn about verbal and nonverbal cues for each type.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Pre-order Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, and use “fathomspre” for 20% off:https://www.fallscitypress.com/enneagram
- http://n-1games.com/
- An introduction to the idea of the imago Dei: https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/image-of-god-meaning-imago-dei-in-the-bible.html
- Deborah’s email: deborah.ooten@goconscious.com
- Deborah’s website: www.Goconscious.com
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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Welcome to our first installment of (roughly) 15 minute conversations on an enneagram-related topic. In this “Fathom 15” Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the promise and peril of enneagram memes. We talk about how memes can help and harm (specifically regarding the need for inclusion), and what role they should (or shouldn’t) play in our enneagram learning and growth. We also pick a meme for each of our dominant types and talk about what the meme gets right and wrong.
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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, is available for pre-order [use code “fathomspre” for 20% off!]
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Subscribe to this podcast to make sure you receive future episodes, and help us get the word out by sharing it with your friends.
Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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In this episode we interview the brilliant and winsome Leslie Hershberger, an enneagram teacher with decades of experience. Leslie talks about her own encounters with the enneagram, how she uses the enneagram in her work with clients and students, and the difference between entertainment, information, and transformation. Enjoy this masterclass in how to deepen your work with the enneagram.
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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
“Wisdom isn’t knowing more. It’s knowing with more of you.”—Cynthia Bourgeault
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Links:
- Leslie’s website: https://lesliehershberger.com/
- Follow Leslie on Instagram: @lesliehersh
- Follow Leslie on Twitter: @lesliehersh
- Leslie’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnI1Tmc_-bbRzCew1ubusNQ
- Drew’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment, is available for pre-order [use code “fathomspre” for 20% off!]
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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In this surprise bonus episode, Creek leads us through a brief meditation, set to music, on what it means to experience life rather than just exist with it...especially during these strange times. For this experience, we encourage you to take some time to slow down, get comfortable, be curious and simply notice.
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links: Elisabeth Gilbert – Big Magic—Creative Living Beyond Fear
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
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Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
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Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter:@drewmoser
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"When our view of reality is challenged, it can be traumatic.” In this conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk with Jason Adam Miller (aka “J”), Lead Pastor of South Bend City Church. He offers brilliant and accessible insight into the roles that faith, belief, and tension play in life and encountering the enneagram. In this interview, Jason conveys a wise and caring way of holding space for doubt, tension, and questioning while still offering hope. [He also talks about pastoring a congregation amid this current wave of enneagram popularity.]
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“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
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Quote: “The only thing stronger than fear is curiosity” –Smallfoot (Film)
Quote: “We labor unceasingly to adorn and preserve this imaginary existence and neglect the real” –Blais Pascal
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Links:
- Jason’s Website
- South Bend City Church
- Jason’s Instagram
- Jason’s Twitter
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
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Diving right in, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the often used, but rarely understood concepts of “ego” and “essence” in the enneagram system. In this episode, they explore:
- What is an ego? What is essence? How can we understand these important but confusing concepts?
- What roles do ego and essence play in the enneagram?
- Resources to dig deeper
“Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.”
Links:
- Oscar Ichazo
- Claudio Naranjo
- Sigmund Freud’s Id, Ego, and Superego
- David Benner (Check out his trilogy, Surrender to Love, The Gift of Being Yourself, and Desiring God’s Will)
- Marilyn Vancil (“The adapted self” in her book Self to Lose, Self to Find)
- James Hollis - “The protections of the past are the prisons of today”
- Cognitive Bias
- Fr. Richard Rohr – “The true self is unoffendable”
- Helen Palmer – The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and Others in Your Life
- Parker Palmer – A Hidden Wholeness: The Journey Toward an Undivided Life
- Creekmore’s music on Spotify.
- The Nine Dimensions of the Soul: Essence and the Enneagram, by David Hey
- Dissolving the Ego, Realizing the Self, edited by Scott Jeffrey
- Reclaiming Your Real Self, by Rick Johnson
- http://www.enneagramokc.com/
- Leslie Hershberger – “Your enneagram type is both your opening to love and your obstacle to love.
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
Have a question? Drop us a line on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Find us online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
In this mini-episode, Abram, Creek and Drew talk about the current COVID-19 pandemic, anxiety, hoarding, isolation, and how the wisdom of the enneagram can help us during this crisis. Since we recorded this episode in mid-March 2020, the pandemic has only intensified here in the U.S. As the situation becomes urgent and dire, please stay safe everyone!
Links:
- Blaise Pascal – “All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.”
- Pema Chodron -- “Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth.”
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
Find us online:
- Podcast Insta: @fathoms.ennegram; Facebook: Fathoms - An Enneagram Podcast
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
Before we dive into the depths of the enneagram, Abram, Creek, and Drew introduce themselves and talk about the enneagram. Specifically:
- Our enneagram origin story.
- What fascinates us about the enneagram and what irks us about it.
- What’s beneath the surface of the current enneagram conversation.
- What to expect from this podcast…and more!
Links:
- Enneagram Georgia – The home of our beloved teachers, Nan and Lynda.
- Russ Hudson
- Tom Condon
- Suzanne Stabile
- Chris Heuertz
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Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
Find us online:
- Podcast Insta: @fathoms.ennegram; Facebook: Fathoms - An Enneagram Podcast
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser
Introducing Fathoms: An Enneagram Podcast, a series of conversations about the depths of the enneagram. Hosted by enneagram teachers Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, and Drew Moser, this podcast explores the depth and complexity of our inner landscapes, one fathom at a time. Be on the lookout for conversations, interviews, & meditations.
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Music: “Bird,” by Kazi Jay
Editing/Production: Seth Creekmore
Audio Submissions by: Sarah Mickens, Hannah Schonewill, Jenni Schut, Lee Fields (Thanks friends!)
Have a question: drop us a line on instagram: @fathoms.enneagram
Find the hosts online:
- Abram--Insta: @integratedenneagram
- Creek—Web: www.creekmoremusic.com; Insta: @creekmoremusic
- Drew—Web: www.drewmoser.com; Insta: @enneagrammers; Twitter: @drewmoser